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No. 2220128

This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.

Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping
> Ao3 Censorship and TOS
> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers
> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads
> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama
> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters
> Debates over death of the author
> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creators

Related threads:

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>>1978406

Fujocoomer cringe:
>>1959358

Previous:
>>2197306

No. 2220138

Wtf is this threadpic

No. 2220139

>>2220111
community feature 3rd post. Kiwifarms turned into twitter 2 lately, they will defend everyone they like against the same accusations they will label someone they dont like(who always has opposing political beliefs) the worst thing ever.

>>2220123
they defended the pokemon feet pedo and also defended they oneyplay guys despite associating with shadman. They are massive hypocrites. The guy they are WK in the post i linked said the Epstein victims were willing, too.

No. 2220140

My first thought of the thread's pic was that Rebecca is specifically a drawn version of Rebecca Sugar as a reference to the fact that she was a huge fan of Invader Zim and tried to talk to Jhonen Vasquez as a fan.

No. 2220143

>>2220140
its drawn by her she's always been a massive sperg

No. 2220159

>>2220139
>community feature 3rd post.
>its a troon pedo moid
…you know there are more better examples you couldve chosen, moids who like madoka or homura always tend to be degenerates

No. 2220167

>>2220159
i wasnt defending the moid though, just posting an example of kiwifags using the same tactics twittertroons use to discredit someone they dislike. They are also defending richard stallman who said the epstein victims were willing and said ''voluntary'' pedophilia doesnt hurt children

No. 2220176

>>2220175
when did i defend him? literally where.

No. 2220178

>>2220167
> just posting an example of kiwifags using the same tactics twittertroons use to discredit someone they dislike.
>i wasnt defending the moid though,
..sure, i dont care if the same tactics troons use is used against them if this was a actual woman i wouldve given a fuck about but its moid on moid war

No. 2220187

>>2220178
but they literally only use it on moids they dislike, thats my whole point. They defended oneyplay despite having strong ties to shadman to they point they lived with him for a while, just like how twittertroons tried to defend the mr beast troon. Now they are trying to use this random moid posting swimsuit art of madoka to discredit his letter calling Richard Stallman a pedophile, even thought richard stallman has defended actual pedophilia before. twittertroons and kiwifags are the same shit.

No. 2220203

>>2220187
who cares if moids have chimp wars

No. 2220208

People in general have been complaining about absolutely nothing when it comes to anime since it became mainstream, tbf.

No. 2220212

>>2220203
so you are okay with moids defending pedo moids as long as they like them? ok

No. 2220228

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>>2220212
tayrt its understandable that your pedo troon bootlicking got caught but the reverse wont work on me faggot.

No. 2220236

>>2220228
I genuinely dont understand why you are so pissed off at me pointing out kiwifags double standards. I didnt even know who the fuck that faggot was nor i care, i was just pointing out the hypocrisy of kiwifags using some moids posts to discredit his callout for a pedo moid they like just like twittertroons do by calling everyone that calls out one of their own twansphobic.

No. 2220304

>>2220104
>openly pedophile userbase like kf with an owner that used to jack it to shota and run an ib with a pedophile board
Null was (is) a shotacon? What the fuck did I miss? When did this happen and can anyone show receipts? I've heard many things about him but this isn't one of them.

No. 2220320

>>2220304
Doesn't null hate weebs and animu with a burning passion? How could he possibly a shotacon let alone a pedophile? Now the userbase, I won't put if past you most of the users there could be lolcows in and of themselves.

No. 2220322

>>2220320
>>2220304
I'm not going back on KF to find it but I distinctly remember one user who had a shota-esque avatar (it was cropped art of lil anime boys kneeling half naked in a shower) and no one ever commented on it. Plus they had a VTuber thread which was filled with not-so-subtle whiteknighting.

No. 2220324

>>2220322
That doesn't make him a shotacon

No. 2220340

>>2220138
hilarious

No. 2220352

>>2220128
this threadpic is so funny and retarded

No. 2220353

>>2220322
>it was cropped art of lil anime boys kneeling half naked in a shower
If that's the same avatar I'm thinking of (children kneeling with their hands behind their backs, their heads turning to look at the viewer), that was commissioned art found at the estate of an alleged pedo (unfortunately can't remember the name). I think it might've been a Pizzagate thing? It is an extremely creepy painting.

No. 2220371

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>>2220128
>>2220352
Oh my god, it was drawn by Rebecca Sugar (creator of steven universe) because she had a crush on Dib. That's supposed to be her, fucking kek. How did I miss this

No. 2220374

>>2220353
That sounds like the exact one. Very creepy to say the least.

No. 2220375

>>2220371
Absolutely based yume autism kek

No. 2220537

Why are chinese fanfictions a bit deranged on ao3? I don’t have anything against it, but whats the reason for male characters always getting raped and tortured compared to english ones?

No. 2220557

>>2220304
>Null was (is) a shotacon
It's years old but it's from some screenshot where he says he likes shota carboys

No. 2220564

>>2220537
never read one, now i’m curious. i wonder is this a particular fandom / character thing?

No. 2220572

>>2220537
Apparently ao3 is known to chinese fandoms as being for yaoi porn lmao. They post the normal fic on cn sites or ffn

No. 2220575

>>2220537
>>2220572
CN fandom is single handedly responsible for 80% of explicit fics in all my fandoms, it's crazy.

No. 2220585

>>2220557
>Carboys
KACHOW

No. 2220602

>>2220353
Now I'm morbidly curious, who's the name of the KF user with the avatar?
>>2220557
Why do moids always have pedophilic tendencies toward young boys?

No. 2220617

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>>2220602
I think they're referring to this user

No. 2220620

>>2220353
>>2220617
yeah thats a painting from the pod3sta's art collection

No. 2220657

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>>2220322
KF allows users like this, too. This guy had only positive ratings btw. I remember back when the chuggaconrroy(pedo footfag pokemon youtuber) drama happened his thread was filled with pedo apologists that WK him despite talking about his foot fetish with a 15yo.

No. 2220659

>>2220657
>Women have to be virgins
>But men get to be used up whores! It's only natural!

No. 2220694

>>2220657
guys it's not statutory rape if the parents are ok with it!

No. 2220707

>>2220657
The second one is just straight up ripped from porn. What 18 year old is getting gangbanged?

No. 2220719

>>2220617
Oh, I thought it was just highly stylized shota art but this grosses me out, clearly made by a nambla associate. Also ofc the poster is a pedomoid, god I hate faggots.

No. 2220789

the mere concept of anyone in a show like IZ sexy-slave-Leia-ing another character/self-insert oc is so fucking funny, I love it kek

No. 2220802

>>2220617
Who the fuck is Chris?

No. 2220804

>>2220789
oh anon you had to been there when the fandom was at its peak

No. 2220805

>>2220802
Chris as in Chris-chan.

No. 2220806


No. 2220807

>>2220707
Men consume so much porn from such a young age that, combined with their inherent male retardation, they think porn depicts real life. This is especially common in incels such as the denizens of kf and lolbertarian scrotes in general

No. 2220817

>>2220657
I'm sleep deprived so I read the second scenario as an older woman trying to get an 18 year old boy gangbanged by his teammates KEK

No. 2220818

>>2220657
The fact these retards are on a lolcow site and still don't think pedos have used this exact "but what if we're in LOVE?!" excuse millions of times just proves men are inherently sub IQ.

No. 2220821

>>2220657
Men are so fucking dramatic kek. This post embodies the energy of flouncing up the stairs to his bedroom and screaming "UGH YOU FEMALES NEVER LET ME DO ANYTHING!!! I HATE THIS PLACE!!!!" Before slamming the door and blasting Green Day while he curls up on his bed and chokes back angry sobs.

No. 2220913

>>2220657
>it's fine when we do it
I hate moids so much it feels unreal sometimes.

No. 2220966

>>2220657
>26 and 16 year old getting together and framed in a wholesome light
>weird porn story about an 18 year old getting gangbanged

LUL moids have the shittiest fanfics.

No. 2220973

>>2220821
hey hey hey hey hey, Green Day can be nice. If you wanna roast a moid for listening to music, just call him a Cannibal Corpse fan.

No. 2221119

>>2220804
ayrt oh I was, it baffled me then because I was too young/autistic to really get the more… transformative side of fandom creations kek, but now it's kind of charmingly deranged to look back on. This being how Sugar chose to self-insert only makes it better lmao

No. 2221249

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No. 2221265

>>2221249
Wait, he's asking us to consider which scenario he'd prefer our daughters to be in, and he clearly favours the first one where a 16 year old is essentially sold to an older man…does that mean he would sell his own teenage kids into marriage? Would he "approve" if some old scrotal suiter came sniffing around his daughters?

No. 2221384

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And this is supposed to be “look how cool, quirky, and horny” tumblr is. I just find it lame
Where do you go if you want to talk about the thing you like? Honest question?

I know that ASOIAF is unique because waiting for GRRM to finish his books is a death sentence

No. 2221396

>>2220817
I did the same initially too nona kek

No. 2221483

>>2221384
Dedicated discords are where I have the most luck, though it’s hard to find a good one and they’re usually filled with zoomers and gendies. Honestly sometimes twitter gives me good conversations as well so long as the fandom isn’t huge.

No. 2221489

>>2220585
how old IS lightning mcqueen anyways

No. 2221549

>>2221249
>64 updootes
grim

No. 2222061

>>2221489
The first Cars movie came out 18 years ago…. Lightning McQueen is now legal.

No. 2222170

>>2220537
>>2220572
There's also the fact that it's safer for them to post unhinged shit on AO3 in comparison to other fic sites.

No. 2222857

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>>2218158
they aren't letting this go

No. 2222886

>>2222857
The numbers aren't too significantly different, so I don't see how that's a flex. Especially when nobody gives a fuck about underpaid American voice actors for anime but Japanese voice actors are chosen for marketing reasons and their fans will watch something just for them sometimes which is why Yuichi Nakamura is every fucking where right now.

No. 2222924

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Why are twitter gachacels so incredibly mentally ill? The original post that had over 15k likes has been deleted, but this individual accused a woman of misogyny for calling Ayaka a waifubait character. I have nothing against women that like female characters from gachashit but I hate when they try to paint these characters as some paragon of feminism. This entire thread is beyond parody to me because they use the same rhetoric that is used by males who claim that women are just jealous of their 1-dimensional waifus, but instead they add a dash of twitter feminism to whatever claim they are making.

No. 2222930

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>>2222924
Maybe I need to get my head out of gachashit, but I’m genuinely concerned for these women. Many of them are well over 20 and should know what feminism and misogyny are, but it seems like they learned these terms from Twitter one day and haven't stopped using them in every single conversation since then. I have noticed that whenever a semi-popular post about male characters appears, they jump in with a QRT to make some unrelated or exaggerated point about misogyny. I don’t even like the male characters from Hoyoshit, but I find this constant seething over "some random woman on the internet does not like this coombait female character, so it must be misogyny!1!!" both amusing and tiring.
It is very insulting, that some of them genuinely believe that if you don’t like female characters from hoyoshit of all things, then you must not be attracted to women. Worse, they belittle concerns voiced by Chinese women under the guise of feminism. For them, tearing down real women to defend the honour of fictional female characters designed by men somehow counts as peak feminism. I’ve seen so many unhinged posts in the past few days that it’s really making me think about the absolute state of women-dominated fandom spaces. Ironically, moids on reddit and /vg/ hold far more irrational hatred toward male characters, yet no one is policing their opinions over there.

No. 2222966

>>2222924
>>2222930
What is it with this game attracting so many autists.

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>>2222924
>>2222930
Wonder how many of these are trannies posting the same rhetoric as gooners with "so you hate women" instead of "are you afraid of boobs"?

RL women here are 100% fakebians and pornsick though. No way in hell you would whiteknight ZZZ unless you're actually retarded.

No. 2222983

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>>2222982
Posting the following because the copypasta is hilarious.

No. 2222984

>>2221483
wrt to ASOIAF my fav is this one meme subreddit that's books only, seems to filter out the low IQ discourse in >>2221384

It's not all just jokes, sometimes some memes do trigger people enough to discuss the books

but ASOIAF is in a runt because of the long hiatus, any fandom eventually breaks down after 5+ years

I never tried discords tbh, it seems like too much effort for me

No. 2222999

>>2222982
>>2222983
We need to spam this everywhere as the new copypasta.

No. 2223005

>>2222966
>colorful designs
>braindead black and white storytelling
>simple game design
Gee I wonder why.

No. 2223040

>>2220537
Based Chinese fujos
>>2220572
>Apparently ao3 is known to chinese fandoms as being for yaoi porn lmao.
Implying AO3 is known for something different in the west? Kek most fanfics are M/M

No. 2223266

>>2220537
>>2220572
It's the one place the CCP has no authority over, that's why the CN fujos and yumes write the raunchiest, most depraved material there. It's literally their safe haven

No. 2223368

>>2222930
>you don’t care for female character therefore you’re a misogynist

I feel crazy and would like to apologize to many nonnies. I held similar beliefs up until a few months ago. A show I was following took a nosedive with its female cast while unintentionally making their male characters more interesting yet a certain segment of fans are hellbent on portraying any and all dissidents as sexists or misogynists before admitting that the writers themselves are badly handling the female characters. I’ve seen “you just hate flawed female characters essays” and those posts genuinely have me closer to becoming a /tv/ lurker .

I still get it on principle . The hate boner men had towards Skylar in Breaking Bad for example but idk i feel like nowadays it’s not that bad?
Like in the boys people don’t hate Victoria, who was a very morally grey character, and instead disliked Starlight for understandable reasons

It’s not always misogyny, sometimes your fav female character is just not interesting and invoking morality police and tumblr politics won’t change that

No. 2223633

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this is over good omens getting a 90 minute finale, do they know how many fandoms would have literally begged for this?

No. 2223638

>>2223633
KEK good that shit show was one of the biggest ugly man psyops ever, fuck it

No. 2223643

>>2223633
Atleast it will get a finale and it got cancelled for a reason, Good omens fans got it good.

No. 2223649

>>2223633
that one girl saying
>never get into queer media
lmao b/c the male writer WILL turn out to be a sexpest

No. 2223650

>>2223633
Are they at least blaming Neil Gaiman for it?

No. 2223653

>>2223650
they were, but they were giving equal blame to the studio

No. 2223744

>>2222924
It's just plain character wankery disguised as activism. "You don't like my fictional female character created by a man? You must hate women. Now please ignore while I shit on this other female character created by the same man because she takes away attention from my fav!" Exist in manga/anime fandoms as well. See anyone shonen related piece of media with more than one female character of the same age bracket.

No. 2224282

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>characters that literally aren't related
>she's just the occasional girlfriend of his mentor figure

No. 2224309

>>2222924
>which is definitely how that works irl too
>no one hates Genshin women like women
But they're not real women, and they they were literally made to get male coomers to spend all their savings on them…

>>2220657
>chuggaconrroy(pedo footfag pokemon youtuber)
Holy shit, this is the first time I've read anything about this.

>>2221265
Nona, he's the kind of sick fuck who would want to have children only to groom and rape them.

No. 2224312

>>2222983
Is DEI the new scrote buzzword to discredit any piece of media they can't fap to? Or the new "SJW"?

No. 2224398

>>2224312
It absolutely is. It's crazy to me that I suddenly started seeing conservatard moids throw that word everywhere in the most text book example of "buzzword" way out of nowhere. Genuinely curious how it spread so quickly.

No. 2224400

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>>2224312
It stands for diversity, equity and inclusion and it's the new woke I guess. It's just used like a reason to explain why games are bad now without directly saying that the real issue is that they don't 100% cater to them. Imo the old fucks spouting this shit should not be playing games in the first place kek get an adult hobby

No. 2224447

>>2224282
>the clownish and absurd size difference and "sexual dimorphism"
>the tacky costumes
>knowing so much trivia about cringe media for overgrowed mentally handicapped manchildren
Superhero fandoms are retarded.

No. 2224457

>>2224447
So what should adults be reading then? Depressing literary fiction?

No. 2224470

>>2224447
I agree but a 5'6 women will be that small compared to a 6'1 male

No. 2224510

>>2224312
Basically. They're already at it with DEI skin for black characters and DEI attributes when they can't goon to it.

No. 2224580

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>>2222982
>What's the matter, WOKEY BOY? Scared of a few BOOBIES?!

No. 2224591

>>2224470
nta but I think it's less so the character's heights and more the general proportions. I don't personally care about the stylisation (other than that it doesn't feel as cohesive between the characters as it could be), but a buff 6'1'' man is not that huge mclarge anyway– Catwoman's torso side profile could almost fit within his leg kek

No. 2224597

>>2224591
It legitimately looks like forced perspective kek

No. 2224602

>>2224400
If a woman who looked exactly like this got famous nowadays they'd neg her for being tanned and not having hips the width of a doorframe.

No. 2224670

>>2224457
Unironically yes

No. 2224708

>>2224447
Go tell us your fandoms nona, let's see how mature and adult you are
I have never cared for superheroes in my life btw

No. 2224713

>>2224312
I find forced diversity cringey in modern media but when these men scream over DEI it's always just a black person existing or a woman that isn't rail thin with a baby face. The whole concept of "woke" has lost credibility a long time ago but this is so mask off.

No. 2224717

You guys should see the pseudo meltdown /v/ had over Metaphor RE:Fantazio for being """DEI slop""".
Sadly I don't have pictures with me atm but it was one of the most forced and fabricated outrages ever in the history of vidiya fandom.

No. 2224726

>>2224717
Can you explain what's going on without posting spoilers? I plan on playing the game later and I'd like to avoid spoilers so I'd rather not check it out myself.

No. 2224738

>>2224726
I would also appreciate a spoiler-free summary, even if it's just a sentence
I'm playing the game atm so I imagine it includes that the characters and NPCs have varying skin tones and the world building includes different races and religions with prejudice and stereotypes about them, and that "tolerance" is a one of the traits the mc can level up in, however your female companions are conventionally attractive harembait

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>>2224738
Hulkenberg is the main point of contention, they complain over her ass being "censored" when compared to earlier footage of the game, plus the fact that she eats bugs. Thankfully most of the outrage is painfully forced and the overwhelming majority of people don't give a shit.
The whole "diversity and tolerance" stuff doesn't really trigger these people as much because, as you said, the female cast are all attractive.

No. 2224974

>>2224968
Kek thank you anon it's even dumber than I imagined

No. 2224991

>>2224968
thank god jesus christ, her ass looks so overrendered in the before that it clashes with the artstyle. isnt RE a horror game anyway? idk how anyone could take the before coombait seriously in one of those

No. 2224996

>>2224991
>isnt RE a horror game anyway?
Huh? Are we talking about Resident Evil or Metaphor?

No. 2225004

>>2224968
That's it? I expected something related to the story or characters and not just a bunch of tards complaining that there aren't enough polygons on some character's ass.

No. 2225019

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>>2225004
It's a 100 hour long JRPG, the culture war rage grifters can't get much mileage out of it beyond cherry picked screenshots like pic related, specially since the game is actually good and sold really well.

No. 2225024

>>2224996
KEK i misread the game title, sorry for being a retard. my point on the ass looking dumb in the before still stands though.

No. 2225026

>>2225019
I've noticed these types always backpedal and pretend they either didn't care or supported it all along if the thing they're mad about gets popular. For "warriors against tyrannical censorship" or whatever they sure love to suck up to the status quo kek

No. 2225030

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he's right

No. 2225031

>>2225030
They're both wrong and stupid, but the OP is especially stupid because you just know he likes the type of coomer or cgdct anime that has horrible character designs or manga with very sloppy, half assed art.

No. 2225032

>>2225030
The original tweet is such embarrassing weeb cope lmao. "Any art style that isn't animu = bad" type of brainworms.

No. 2225041

>>2225030
Why is he proposing to a child

No. 2225057

>>2225030
Haven't a bunch of right wingers absolutely shit on anime as brainrot?
Either way, using Frieren where the mc is a OP woman that doesn't really give a fuck and the ml died never getting laid doesn't seem like it'd go with those politics.

No. 2225059

>>2225041
He's just giving her a gift, not proposing.

No. 2225060

>>2225057
Rightoids have a BPDesque relationship with Japan and anime, it's either the most uber based last bastion of patriarchy to ever exist or cucked woke bugmen propaganda depending on the time of day.

No. 2225092

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>>222505
Depends, the more racist the more likely they're to dislike it because it's made by "Japs/gooks" and is liked by trannies

No. 2225100

>>2225092
I don't know what this means

No. 2225105

>>2225092
what is this retarded chart?

No. 2225116

>>2225105
A chart made by people who partake in sharing cp/zoo or extortionist groups who are mad they're being called out by supposed Safe Edgy communities

No. 2225118

>>2225105
It was posted on the nolimitsfun wiki or something

No. 2225224

>>2225019
I think the game is too long for culture war grifter types to be able to get content, they lack the patience.

No. 2225240

>>2225092
>"foodist" (pejorative coined on KF to describe the monkey torture "community", only the "foodists" themselves would use this term along with "pedo" and "tranny" because they assume they're more well-known than they actually are)
>weird malding about animals
>"something something loli/shota for the wrong reasons"
Chart made by a gore-addicted, pedophilic monkey rapist.

No. 2225254

>>2225240
Also calling gore the "moral equivalent" to CP. Only an edgelord NEET with severe autism would ever construct this sentence.

No. 2225260

>>2225092
>>2225240
"Virtue signals over sexual deviancy" is another dead giveaway kek

No. 2225261

>>2225116
i regret asking, i hope everyone involved in this dies

No. 2225283

>>2225260
Then have a closet full of porn kek. Projection, lots of it.

No. 2225356

>>2224968
The outcry that's been happening around videogames has been so annoying lately. It could be it's own thread with how every time a new trailer for a game is released, there needs to be an entire culture war surrounding it.

No. 2225358

>>2225356
It makes me wonder why it's video games specifically that turn into the political hotbeds out of all the major entertainment mediums. First gamer gate and now the culture wars, everything seems to collapse to point in videogames. Not film, not books, always games.

No. 2225364

>>2224968
This is what men deserve

No. 2225366

>>2225358
Because game developers are retards who will outright state they have contempt for their audience.

No. 2225370

>>2225358
its been happen to big franchises like star wars too. I personally just take my popcorn and enjoy the shitfest because there is nothing funnier than seeing nerd moids mald.

No. 2225372

>>2225358
>Not film
Ghost Busters 2016? The Star Wars sequel trilogy? The Little Mermaid? There's plenty of outrage regarding films.
>books
Culture war grifters are fucking illiterate, they'd never talk about books.

No. 2225374

>>2225366
Try developing games and see if you'll manage not to fucking hate your audience.

No. 2225375

>>2225370
Same, nonna. There's nothing I love more than not being a Star Wars fan. I fucking love listening to moids seethe about their franchise going to shit.

No. 2225380

>>2225372
>There's plenty of outrage regarding films.
Always seems to fizzle out quickly compared to games. The outrage in game spaces seems to compound itself in comparison.

No. 2225391

>>2225358
I think Gamergate is what helped kick it off. Grifters saw an easy way to build an audience and push their ideologies. And since a lot of male Gamers already had their foot in the door when it came to shit like that already, it didn't take much to draw them in.

No. 2225402

>>2225375
my favorite thing about star wars is knowing my ex and his friend group are constantly seething about it. i love when they put a woman on the screen cos i know one of them watched it like a rabid slobbering dog just seething in rage they put women in star wars. i know they punched walls over some stuff over the years.

No. 2225409

>>2225358
I think it happens mostly with franchises or mediums that are traditionally associated with the stereotypical basement dweller neckbeard type of nerd. There already were a lot of whiny toxic nerds, I think there's a growing resentment among these types of moids now because there's less big companies willing to directly pander to them probably because they're whiny and easily triggered so it takes less effort to just make stuff for normal people instead kek.

No. 2225637

>>2225375
there was some loser scrote i had to be subjected to in the past who was obsessed with the first few star wars and it was so funny seeing his reaction every time i said i had never seen any of them. like he couldn't fathom it and acted like it was my obligation to watch it and that it was his obligation to show it to me, topkek it made me want to watch it even less because he was insufferable. still haven't seen it all these years later
>>2225402
kekkk

No. 2225679

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I recently started drawing fanart for a fandom i used to be super into when i was a teen. I would love to be part of the fandom again and post my art online, but sadly it seems that the only non TRA fans left are all from asia. Not even having an anti-tranny episode saved the fandom from being populated by annoying gendies, there really is no fucking escape.

No. 2225682

>>2225366
gamers are the worst customers

No. 2225689

>>2225366
And that’s based. It’s even more based when the games meta-criticize like Cyberpunk 2077 does. Anti-corpo message from devs who were pushed over and over by their shit corporate overlords.

No. 2225690

>>2225679
what is it

No. 2225698

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>>2225690
south park

No. 2225703

>>2225698
it's OVER

No. 2225713

>>2225698
I immediately knew what it was based on the anti tranny episode mention kek. Imo that fandom is permanently fucked now, there were always moralfags years back but it was never as bad as now. I blame Tiktok

No. 2225717

>>2225713
Genuinely dont understand what zoomies see in south park and why they flock to it and want to troon out the guys. It feels way too offensive for gendies.

No. 2225724

>>2225698
The TIF urge to posture oneself as morally superior due to media preferences vs the TIF urge to identify as and coom to 8 year old cartoon boys

No. 2225750

>>2225724
KEK this really is their eternal dilemma

No. 2225752

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>>2225717
kek i was just thinking of this the other day, i genuinely do not get it, it's like they've never watched a single episode: which i would totally believe. i remember back in the early web days seeing tons of japanese and some western yaoi fanart of it, so my consensus is it's mostly former-fujo tifs who are incredibly divorced from reality. but i've also known some people who actually watched the show who are definitely the TRA type and i think the argument they made was that "well the show is making fun of everybody so it doesn't count!" or some stupid shit like that. honestly it's most likely the case of "people see what they want to see" and ignoring the parts they don't like. either way, the cognitive dissonance is insane with that crowd
>>2225724
>>2225750
kekkk too real

No. 2225755

>>2225752
Cratman would never say that

No. 2225758

>>2225752
Cartman would pretend to be a tranny to serve some retarded personal agenda and then commit a hate crime the millisecond he got bored.

No. 2225765

>>2225758
i have been wanting for trey and matt to make an episode where cartman becomes nonbinary and pretends to be more opressed than minorities, but trey and matt are boomers and not terminally online so i doubt they even know what the fuck is a nonbinary person

No. 2225787

>>2225717
I've always found SP's popularity with TIFs strange because it's not even just popular with the wannabe 4channer edgy type of gendies (somewhat understandable despite the dissonance) but also the neopronoun ones that will call you a nazi apologist for shipping Kyman. If there's one group of people South Park doesn't appeal to at all it's that one.

No. 2225838

>>2225375
it's such a weird movie to get so invested in. I watched the og trilogy and it's so barebone story-wise. Lovely matte paintings and music, but I was expecting something a little deeper. Even Predator has more nuanced dialogue

No. 2225954

>>2225358
The medium's young, only starting in maybe 70s? Enter a audience who grew up in the 90s where every women in video games were stacked bimbos and men were ripped acton heros. Now that games gone mainstream, the olden tropes had faded, no longer relevant in the face of changing trends. >>2225838
The og trilogy was fine. Not amazing, but did pave the way for better things imo.

No. 2226115

>>2222930
The first twitter post is correct, you can see it even in these threads.

No. 2226499

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Anyone else here bothered that the dirty old man trope doesn't have a female equivalent? Like where are my female ugly bastards lusting after younger male characters? Does this exist in any media that isn't just scrote oneeshota shit? I feel like this is a result of moids being threatened over the thought of an older woman finding a younger guy attractive, and women being conditioned into thinking that moids must always be older and dominant, kek.

No. 2226533

>>2226499
Only one I can think of is the "still I think he's rather tasty" woman from Aladdin.

No. 2226554

>>2226499
idk why you'd be bothered about a shitty trope not being more common for one sex over the other, but older women who leer at younger men do turn up more in live action comedies, from my experience. Also, while the attention is unwanted, the dirty old man trope isn't the same thing as the ugly bastard, as its usually a vehicle for shitty crass comedy (often to be immediately shut down as part of the bit) because the old person doesn't give a crap anymore/are pathetically trying to relive their glory days, and not a gross porn trope intended to sexually degrade a female character. The trope has also been on a general decline from what I've seen, and even characters known for embodying it (eg Master Roshi) have had their antics watered down in more recent depictions.

No. 2226556

>>2225765
There was an episode where Cartman got breast implants, and it was absolutely a commentary on doctors chopping off underage TIFs’ boobs.

No. 2226806

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>>2226499
Arcane did it best imo

No. 2226822


No. 2226833

>>2226806
this is insanely hot and i wonder if she’s like that in the original league lore.

No. 2226834

>>2226806
What's the name of the characters? I need to find fanfiction about them.

No. 2226835

>>2226833
She's actually a new character created for Arcane afaik

No. 2226837

>>2226834
The woman is called Ambessa Medarda, the guy doesn't have a name and is simply called Gorgeous Man in the credits kek

No. 2226844

>>2226833
They added her to the game recently and she has a flirty voiceline specifically for characters coded under her "type". Which are all either twinky champions or muscular women, she's basically a reddit bisexual kek.

No. 2226898

>>2226806
Holy shit maybe i should start watching more western media, absolutely based
Also
>older black woman with "unconventionally attractive" features
>hitting on a young qt white twink
Shocked culture warrior moids didn't throw a melty over this
>>2226844
I wouldn't call liking twinky moids reddit bi, reddit bi is moreso dadbods and characters like that ugly green faggot from zelda. I will say that her being attracted to "muscle mommies" definitely feels like it's so the woke crowd wouldn't chimp out and call her a pedo. muscular women are hot though

No. 2226907

>>2226898
> Shocked culture warrior moids didn't throw a melty over this
The secret to this whole ‘culture war’ thing is that moids don’t really care about DEI or ‘wokeness’, they just use bad games as an excuse to jab at minorities. You’ll notice that they’re usually clowned into silence when they try to go for a near-universally beloved property such as Arcane or Spiderverse. Hell, you could probably direct a film full of oiled-up twinks wrestling for the camera and if its plot is good enough you’d get at least three separate videos titled “How Oiled Up Twinks 3 Gets Its Diversity Right”. Point being: moids are dumb and have no critical thinking, which works just fine for me.

No. 2227014

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>>2226499
This happens with a lot of female characters in Boku no Hero Academia and I think also Yuri on Ice. I was thinking it was a common anime trope

No. 2227018

>>2227014
Though these female characters were usually attractive adults, not unattractive old ladies.

No. 2227046

>>2226806
This awoken something in me

No. 2227048

>>2226907
>You’ll notice that they’re usually clowned into silence when they try to go for a near-universally beloved property such as Arcane or Spiderverse.
Yeah, it’s cool how the Half-Life and Portal series are seen as the gold standard of video games when they have a positive, non-sexualized portrayal of female and minority characters (and I’d even go as far as saying that Portal and Portal 2 have feminist themes).

No. 2227065

>>2227048
I think some of this culture war nonsense has a generational component. And I don't just mean Gen Z vs Millennials and older I mean like older people who didn't get involved in online culture until more recently. Half Life 2 came out 20 years ago. Plenty of young dudes have never played it and lots of older guys might not have been gaming back then, or never played single player campaigns, or were uninvolved in fandom.

Alyx is a black woman with a very normal appearance (no skimpy outfits or super curvy body) but she was one of THE top video game waifus for nerd boys back in the 2000s. Current generation of grievance hunters are genuinely unaware that gamers used to commonly prefer a girl-next-door look in their waifus. If they ever made HL3 I do expect to see male infighting between the new breed that immediately cries DEI and the old breed rushing to protect the virtue of their childhood waifu.

No. 2227073

>>2225838
They're not invested in the movies; they're invested in the universe.

No. 2227099

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>>2227065
When Half-Life: Alyx (basically HL3) was released ~4 years ago, there were a lot of presumably male fans dissatisfied with her voice actor being changed and her face being more realistic (see picrel for comparison), but those things are understandable because I also thought the new character models fell a bit into the uncanny valley. If you were to look hard enough you could maybe find someone upset about playing as Alyx instead of Gordon, but the new game had a shockingly positive reception even after so many years of the series being ignored.

No. 2227120

>>2227065
>gamers used to commonly prefer a girl-next-door look in their waifus
While some waifued Alyx, plenty of people made fun of the aggressive shipping/damsel in distressing between her and Gordon that happened in Episode 2.

No. 2227128

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>>2227065
>>2227099
Looks like a few people cried DEI over HLA, but it’s such an unpopular opinion that even Reddit is making fun of them.

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No. 2227145

>>2227099
ngl I can understand the dissatisfaction, especially with the change in voice. If the VAs are unable to still do the voice due to age that's one thing, but it's sad to see original VAs getting passed over for no reason.

The reason Alyx looks different is that her eyebrows are more arched (more feminine) and her jawline isn't as wide (more feminine). For all the complaining about DEI chins and manjaws a lot of these complainers lack aesthetic knowledge. Alyx has a cute, more rounded facial appearance because she was a wider jaw with a lower gonial angle. The new model tries to feminize her appearance in stereotypical ways and it makes her look quite different.

No. 2227149

>>2227128
>32 replies
fucking kek, I wonder what youtube video they originally commented on I want to see them get thrashed in the comments

No. 2227157

>>2227149
I assume it was the announcement trailer; you’ll have to sift through the 73K comments though.

No. 2227172

>>2227128
>>2227149
Also it’s hard to tell which comments are serious and which are trolls parodying angry conservatives.

No. 2227249

>>2227172
r/gamingcirclejerk is a shitpost sub populated by the leftist side of the culture wars.

No. 2227260

>>2227249
dumb to bring "leftist" and "culture wars" into it. circlejerk subs are just about making fun of dumb posting trends in the main subs.

No. 2227269

>>2227249
I heard it wasn't as bad until Hogwarts Legacy came out then it turned into utter shit.

No. 2227329

>>2227249
I am aware; I was suggesting that some of the YouTube comments themselves could be bait/satire. I’m not a fan of that sub since it’s full of trannies, but a broken clock is right twice a day.

No. 2227450

>>2227329
The amount of trannies never surprised me considering gaming attracts many kinds of outcast. What's baffling was one or some of the mods being out and out tankies yet some of the userbase hates CCP or anything china craps out. You're left two sides secretly in a cold war to see who's gonna get the axe and who stays.

No. 2228370

this might have been brought up before but does anyone else miss the culture of imagine blogs on tumblr? feels like those died off at the same time as people got insanely obsessed with their own headcanons and ships etc and stopped being able to handle seeing anyone else's interpretations or ideas within a fandom without having to fight them and argue about who's more correct or what's allowed or not. like, you're not the creator of whatever media you're into, stop acting like you speak with authority on what a character is like or what could happen in a setting etc. the format of imagine blogs was very compelling. i'm tired of reading people's essay long takes on stuff on their personal accs.

No. 2228771

>>2228370
>the culture of imagine blogs on tumblr?
What is it nonna? Do you have examples to share?

No. 2228895

>>2226898
>>2226844
>ultra masculine woc character
this is not as revolutionary as you all are making it, it's basically a porn trope and like >>2226844 said, she's basically a "reddit bisexual" trope

No. 2228902

>>2228895
>ultra masculine
ah yes, the ultra masculine urge of wearing bright red lipstick

No. 2228911

>>2228902
you know what I mean, most old women aren't steroid-pumped bodybuilders

No. 2228920

>>2228895
What about Alyx >>2227099

No. 2229011

>>2228920
I like her, she's actually a character instead of a porn-trope from someone D&D session

No. 2229052

>>2228370
Only tangentially related, but I fucking hate headcanon culture. Nowadays you can take a, say, 20yo female characters with black hair who studies to be a doctor, headcanon her as a "35yo blonde trans femme catgirl who works as a barista" and everyone has to accept that.
Yes, I'm calling for gatekeeping because some headcanons are just shit.

No. 2229116

>>2228370
Yes! It's now just ask me my headcanons/share your headcanons blog and all the remaining imagine blogs are very inactive and demotivated. Not to mention the AI drama and last year some imagine logs stealing fanfiction and rewording it as another character.
>>2228771
It's like short prompt writings, not enough for a full fledged fanfiction but still nice. Like imagine if you made a birthday cake for your husbando, and then the blog would write a short story based on that. Ofc its easier to just say I HC husbando as trans nonbinary and blogs replying valid and getting double the notes as the effortpost.

No. 2229180

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How does this contradict eachother

No. 2229194

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>>2229180
Samefag, god I hate these ironic fujos who know nothing about the history of BL or our culture and say shit like this. Ofc this fag has the dead dove symbol in their bio but still has all these roundabout justifications for their heckin problematic hobby (assuming they even read bl)

No. 2229196

>>2229194
>our community has tons of trannies
no, bitch only westoids do. No fujo woman in japan gives a shit about trannies.

No. 2229205

>>2229180
> Two ‘cisgender’ men fucking each other with their ‘cisgender’ dicks and ‘cisgender’ anus’
> WUH WUH YAOI IS INHERENTLY TRANNY MEDIAAAA WUHHHHHH

No. 2229206

>>2229194
How are gays related to trannies? They always like to mix these crowds, but gays are about sexual orientation while trannies are all about some woowoo gender bullshit that they make up. Actually the two often contradict each other because sexual attraction relies heavily on the physical sexual characteristics that the gendies try so hard to deny. Fucking retards want to shove trannies everywhere.

No. 2229210

>>2229194
>deal heavily with gender
The fuck does that even mean kek What kind of BL is this troon reading?

No. 2229225

>>2229210
probably the weird omegaverse "yaoi" wherein one of the guys has a pussy. that and futashit have been a real plague on bl and gl respectively, get piv out of gay media for the love of god.

No. 2229237

>>2229210
Slow Damage's shitty localization has those themes, but in the original it's just Rei coming to terms with his masculinity while his friends are still GNC.

No. 2229286

>>2229225
i though they have asshole babies in omegaverse?

No. 2229355

>>2228911
Its a cartoon it doesnt have to be realistic.

No. 2229366

>>2229355
the vast majority of other human character have semi-realistic proportions

No. 2229390

>>2229366
the main characters have pink and blue hair

No. 2229445

>>2229180
I will always be a proud trans exclusionary radical fujoshi!

No. 2229610

>>2229180
Do Westoids not know how to do anything instead of needlessly policitize shit? I wouldn't even need to say you have to support gay people irl to be a fujo kek. Trannies have nothing to do with yaoi, I had to guess what they mean by dealing with gender is some characters going "I'm not a real man because I like dudes!" or because of long hair/flamboyant bishies. I genuinely don't know how else you would come to that conclusion.

No. 2229681

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>>2229052
>Nowadays you can take a, say, 20yo female characters with black hair who studies to be a doctor, headcanon her as a "35yo blonde trans femme catgirl who works as a barista" and everyone has to accept that.
you're right on point with the attitude now being that everyone has to accept your headcanons. i'm not even against having headcanons that are ridiculously OOC, but treating them as undisputable canon, and thinking that anyone can be factually right or wrong about their headcanons, when a headcanon literally is the imagined canon that's in your head and not in the media in question, is all so dumb. and i think the difference between then and now is also that like, before when there were imagine blogs for example, it was more clear that your headcanons or fanfictional ideas were just ideas with no authority, and that they could all coexist together because people were actually willing to hear other's thoughts about stuff in their respective fandoms. i also liked imagine blogs because they encouraged being more immersed in the media the blogs revolved around. submissions could be like "imagine being a blah in blahworld doing blah with blah and blah". no mentally ill shit like kinning. it was cringe at times but harmless unlike today when kids are claiming they have a multiple personality that's some minecraft streamer literally existing inside their body/brain.

No. 2229695

>>2229052
>>2229681
That's not even a headcanon, that's a whole-ass AU mixed with your own OC at that point.

No. 2229711

>>2229695
yes hence the label "imagines"

No. 2229776

>>2229286
They do, at least the Japanese ones. Wouldn't be surprised if westerns saw the trend and went full tranny with it.

No. 2229883

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so i'm a mutuals with some libfems who are really into drag racing and the way they I've seen them engage with the fandom is fascinating, cause they basically treat it like "yuri" and even ship drag queens with each other and treat them like their female characters instead of gay men making a mocking impression of women

No. 2229896

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Just wanted to post here about the schadenfreude I feel knowing the spergs who continually seethe about their two ships being either forgotten and or tainted by canon (they sometimes cry about the main ship i.e the girl “in the way” to the point of making ugly vent art of her being “cucked”) can only blame their fandom for not putting any effort in support for them. Bonus points for how shitty their art is after years as well as being the worst kind of pickmes with their shitty nsfw art.

No. 2230079

>>2226806
this is based

No. 2230092

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i’ve noticed that twitter “himejoshi” never engage with actual lesbian content. they’d rather play gacha or games that have no yuri so they can complain and argue that x character is actually lesbian coded. why?

No. 2230096

>>2230092
Because actual himejoshi are too busy not engaging and just RTing yuri mangaka. The ones you’re showing are secret fujoshi that don’t want to be labeled “straight” so despite hyperfocusing on males, they call them “honorary lesbians” or some stupid shit like that. Source: I’m a himejoshi and hang out with other himejoshi. We don’t engage with retards in general, since we’re too busy reading yuri manga/engaging with yuri stuff, while ignoring male-centric fandom spaces. You know it’s a himejoshi when she’s in more niche spaces, not the typical ones since the fandoms that are popular tend to be ones with male-centric charas. Unfortunately, himejoshi spaces are riddled with TIMs, which just makes us more quiet and less “online” socially, so to speak. Hope this clears things up.

No. 2230103

>>2230092
Best answer is their cowards or so rotted by queer theory they couldn't be straight. The masterdoc should have never existed, frankly. Maybe then we'd have less "himes" declaring their comphet crushes like it's an art. This is especially true for less than roid-looking men–Those get the worse of it.

No. 2230123

>>2230092
If they spend more time tweeting about male characters, hate or not, then they're not himejoshis. No shipper is gonna waste their time on that shit. Just compare them to any actual yuri account, most of them barely tweet about male characters in any context. They don't even bother to shit on them, they just ignore them and focus on the female characters they like (which mirrors what fujos do only caring about their yaois and nothing else). Like >>2230103 said these "himejo" accounts that spend their entire day hating on men are just masterdoc polilezzies, they pretend to only care about women/yuri but they never shut up about men. They just do this to overcompensate and prove how much of a lesbian they are or some shit.

No. 2230135

>>2229180
Just because you don’t abide by or believe in traditional gender roles society has been expecting of us does not mean you’re cool with trannies.If anything ,believing in TRA shit means you too think boys can’t like pink or girls can’t wear pants without being trans.Loathe modern fujo culture so much eugh(integrate)

No. 2230579

>>2230103
this is the best explanation

No. 2230588

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>>2226499
The only old lady I know in media that does this is the old lady from Ace attorney games who stayed hitting on Edgeworth.

No. 2230606

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>>2226499
the only example i know is the old lady hitting on yung voldemort in harry potter and the half blood prince and she's an extremely minor character

No. 2230649

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>>2230588
not anime but cloest equivalent i know is Buck Brown's old lady comics

No. 2230774

>>2226499
for real nonna. not animu related but imagine if there was a huge culturally revered movie like the 90s lolita adaptation or even leon the professional but the sexes of the characters were reversed. it would simply not be tolerated by society. yet the opposite is praised endlessly for its depth and meaning etc.
>Like where are my female ugly bastards lusting after younger male characters? Does this exist in any media that isn't just scrote oneeshota shit?
even in the media or porn where this dynamic sort of exists, it's literally always just young looking sexy women with gigatits, never a normal old looking woman let alone a gross old hag. it's never realistic, just more of the same old, done to death scrote fap material of the milf/mommy category as always.

No. 2231061

>>2230774
Every korean webtoon romacne i come across that has a younger male lead with a clear raising/grooming storyline gets whining and bitching in the comments without fail but even then it's never actually predatory and she never gets with the male lead until he's an adult anyway. So it never comes across as a nasty grooming romance if that's what one's looking for.

No. 2231408

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>>2226499
wouldnt call her nor dirty nor perverted by any means but she's the closest I can think of, their bond was based on their mutual fascination for death and ended up blooming into a full blown old-timey romance. The fact the actor wasnt underage at the time surprised me, he looked pretty young there. To summarize: its a weird girl-brooding dude romance except the girl is old enough to be his grandma and he looks fresh outta highschool.

No. 2231468

>>2231408
What's the film/series? Seems interesting.

No. 2231519

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>>2231468
nta but it's a film called harold and maude. definitely recommend, it's one of my favourites of all time.

No. 2231572

>>2231519
He looks like a mannequin in this photo

No. 2231965

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>just came across 3rd media this week where the main pair is a lesbian and a girly brown TiM
Kek this is so dumb, you just know they pat themselves on the backs for how sUbVeRsIve they are. Yet if I called them racist for making all their main brown “women” characters actually men in dresses I’d be the bad guy

No. 2232014

>>2231965
Someone needs to gaslight these people into making trans x trans pairings instead of this heterosexual shit. Wouldn't that be more woke anyway?

No. 2232073

>>2231965
Wait isn't this Noelle Stevenson's wife?

No. 2232189

>>2232073
It is. This is the woman who cucked Noelle so hard with a man that she trooned.

No. 2232479

>>2231965
Completely, totally unrelated. But I hate this trend of calling everything "X to lovers". It's a fucking romance, you don't have to force a dynamic to make it seem more interesting than it is. Also I hate how books are advertised nowadays.



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