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This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping> Ao3 Censorship and TOS> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters> Debates over death of the author> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creatorsRelated threads:
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>>2325146 No. 2359678
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It's bad enough when fandomtards apply their "trans/queer hc's" to 2d fictional characters, but when they do it to real-life people, that's a point of peak brain rot—the type that will most likely lead to trooning out
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>>2358027>Who cares that they fantasize about other women being dark skinned and masculine>All the cultures on earth push for women to be feminine, anorexic and submissive, so I really don't see the issueWhy don't people who make this argument ever complain that this type of art still keeps those exact same traits on all the white women and pale asian women? They recreate the same boring tropes, designs, and submissive waifu archetypes all over again and you just play blind to it. "Masculine" dark skinned women isn't the issue, pay attention more. Some of that art is mandingo-tier porn tropes by people with fetishes. Don't get surprised when black lesbians are creeped out by that crap.
Not sure why people insist it's mainly an asian artist thing when half the artists in the examples aren't even asian and are from the west, known to have race fetishes/obsession. They influence each other.
There's literally "snowbunny mind control" memes going around for characters like miles and ekko, or fanart drawing characters over a porno image of a white girl on the couch surrounded by black men, but I've seen them appear in shit like SU, TOH, and ALNST fandoms and shared by east asian fans. No. 2359786
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>>2359725And? That doesn't take away from anything i've said, cope.
>>2359730KEK am i really reading this right now?? Half of trannies exist because of yuri moe slop, they WANT to be the anime girls kissing other anime girls.
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>>2359824I understand feeling the pressure to change yourself because some cultures are just way more harsh to autistic women. But fandoms are now filled with retards who like to fall in line with what others tell them to do and are more likely to moralfag or keep others in line like twitterfags try to do. Some people aren’t immune to media influences because they themselves treat media like their own personal propaganda so they’re more likely to troon out, argue ethics, and push agendas instead of enjoying what they like.
No. 2359860
>>2359854nah the anon said both are not feminist because the yurisped said yuri was ''better for women''
>>2359724 learn the whole reply chain before making dumb posts
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cant this shit stay in its containment? anyways
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>>2359824yeah, I've been reading yuri and other type of animangas since I was around 10-11 and it has never made me dysphoric despite me rarely shaving and dressing pretty tomboyish sometimes. The only "negative" effect I've had from reading yuri mangas is me being sad about not having a gf in middle school kek
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nonas, i need to vent, no, i need to scream into the void. i'm recently into the KCD fandom, which is garbage if you ask me… like everything these days, it's halfway between Reddit brahs and Tumblr "Henry was always bi!" crowd. with the news of a male gay sex scene news going around (which is most likely a Hans-related one, given that both fandom parties kind of agree there was always sexual tension between the main character, Henry, and him, so it's most likely this scene, which seems to be very hidden according to the devs, is just an easter egg), the Tumblr side of the fandom has turned into an infinite cesspool of dropped alphabet soup labels. no, Henry isn't gay out of the factory, you discount unicorn, don't you know being horny isn't being in love and fully attracted and devoted to someone. Henry is just a blank slate character and it's up to the player to make him as gay as they want. If you want "your Henry" to screw mountain goats and make him a farm terror, be my guest. but he isn't homosexual by default. so stop claiming he is, just to justify your fanfic slop canon.
mine will most likely screw Hans, just because that twat deserves a good dicking anyway lol.
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>>23598969 times out of 10 it’s the exact same “hime-chan” coming in here with yuri/fujo bait and I feel like I’m going insane being the only nona who recognises her typing style over and over again. It’s even worse that no one ever agrees with her initially so she has to keep piggybacking off the one or two nonas who will give her a crumb of attention to drag out her sperg as long as she possibly can. Picrel totally unrelated.
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why is there so little genfic. i am so tired of everytthing revolving around ships
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>>2359678I really do wonder if this is just cope for liking a straight ship, or do they believe that a regular whole ass man and woman kissing or doing anything couples do is somehow queer?
No. 2360286
>>2360268character studies, making up backstories, alternate endings, missing scenes from canon, just ppl going on an adventure… there's a lot of possibilities imo, there's a lot of plots out there that aren't just "how will x and y end up together"
mind you i don't mind fic featuring ships in themseleves, like characters that happen to be in a relationship doing xyz, but i'm just tired of how most output revolves around romance. it's also annoying wheeh a story (fanfic or original ) purports tt be about many tings but the romance plot then takes over.
mind you i'ml not saying i disapprove of otthers enjoying shipping or w/e, it jsut baffles me how much of fandom revolves purely around that.
i feel it's the source of a lot of fandom issues as well (that and declining literacy). like tthe grwoing amounts of fanworks that compleetely disreegard canon aree usually bc peopleonly care about makig caracters moree shippable at tee expese of ttheir original story and caracterisation (eg. the marauders subfandom).
i guess ppl find shipping and romance more rewarding but i don't get why there is so little genfic when the possibilities are endless
No. 2360317
>>2360286Agreed. Although I read my share of slashfic, I've come to realize that I started to lean towards fics that actually have a story going on rather than just "ship doing xyz thing". One in particular had OCs so convincing I almost believed them to be actual characters in canon.
Its sad when the answer to the lack of genfic is most likely because generic slashfics get easy views; plus its a more "templatey" format where you can pretty much insert any ship you want in generic scenarios (e.g. coffeeshop AU, Modern/Slice of life AU) so there isnt much creativity to expend aside from writing the dialogue and interactions.
No. 2360328
>>2359746lol this actually happened to me as a teenage yurifag. i was desperate to read stories where characters had the same sexuality and approximate age as me, but the idealization was a huge contributor to my body image issues and i ended up identifying as nonbinary for a year.
but i was fine in the end and so are most people. it's no worse than a teenage girl being obsessed with yaoi/het romance. it would be a bigger problem to continue fixating on looking like/living the life of a fictional character well into adulthood.
No. 2360599
>>2360175AO3 and its consequences
>>2360259I believe it's the former, after all being straight is evil and oppressive (read: boring)
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I swear this discourse pops up every week.
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Why are women's sexual fantasies treated as worse than moid's?
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>>2361059It’s 100% a projection thing
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>>2361059Men are hypocritical human beings and always want to be play the
victim. No matter how easy it is to google what are the most popular porn tags, they want to live in their bubbles where women are the ones raping and murdering them, because men are just childish and their minds never evolve from teenagehood where you think the world is against you and you are this unique speshual being thats actually misunderstood.
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>>2361059Why does the moid from that anime look like a bara character
No. 2361157
>>2360175To add on to what other anons said, I also think that a lot of media people engage with isn't very gen– I don't mean the media the fandom is based around, but more like how a lot of fic authors clearly pull from current romance novel trends (or treat canon in a similar way that fantasy is treated by romantasy). I'm not saying that's bad or anything, or that it's happening across all fandoms, but you can tell what and how widely an author reads by how they write and their topics and tropes of choice. So I blame romance-free/not-romance-focused stories being out of vogue in current reading trends, as well as their being less current popular examples of media using basic plots that work well for genfic for people to draw from (eg monster of the week as a format is less common these days, which is a structure that encourages a contained story about solving a problem and works well as a way for fic authors to try their hand at writing an 'episode' of what they're into).
It's not so bad in old (but healthy) fandoms though– there's still plenty of pure shipfics, but also a good mix of genfic and fics that contain a ship but in a more incidental way. Newer fandoms, in my experience, tend to not be as varied (though that can also be character dependent, sometimes they're fine and other times the character I'm interested in will mostly feature in weird coom AUs kek).
There have also been anons in previous threads that were confused about what you could possibly write about
other than shipfics/romances when it comes to fanfic to make them engaging, so there's that, too
No. 2361218
>>2361070Somehow, seeing them next to each other, I respect the ntrfags/cheatingfags
less than the futafags. Never thought I'd say that.
>>2361100>purefag ugly bastardKekkkkk that's so fucking accurate.
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>>2361234To be fair some euro countries had vanilla as their favorite
But futanari was still the main one
No. 2361260
>>2361234The majority of men who like seeing normal or sweet depictions of sex/romance are probably not the same demographic as the ones using fakku/any other porn site. They do exist, but they're a small and super normie group. I don't really get when anons act surprised at seeing results from a population that's already been filtered to only contain weeb coomers who browse a hentai site regularly.
>>2361250is interesting though that there's more variation here than the US one kek
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I am so tired of women getting moralfagged while men get to enjoy the vilest things in peace. Its insane to me that women are always getting punished for enjoying unrealistic fantasies. Meanwhile, 99% of movies are unrealistic power trips for men, where they get to self insert as the walled hero who gets a sexy 20yo sex bomb manic pixie dream girl at the end. And women? no, we cant enjoy that. We cant enjoy yaoi with men that are unrealistic female fantasies and dont have to poop and starve themselves to have sex. Meanwhile, barafaggots get to enjoy their buttsex gay porn with self lubricating assholes, fucking lactation(because yes, this is common in bara) and unrealistic balloon tits/pecs that look like women's breasts. Do barafags ever get questioned if they arent real gay men for liking lactation, assholes that dont need douching and pecs that look like female tits? ofcourse not, because they are men. Men get to enjoy cynical evil characters like Rick and Patrick bateman, but women cant like evil women. All female characters must be pure of soul and intent. Men get to enjoy gigaroided beasts like kratos, but women? no, sorry. You cant have your roidstacies, women dont get unrealistically muscular therefore you cant just find the idea of a roidstacy in fantasy fun or interesting. This is why most media targetted at women tends to be so bland, while men can go apeshit and create magnus opus of autism like Strike Witches, baki or SAO. Like damn bitch is there anything we are actually allowed to enjoy.
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>>2361454The modern gendie ATLAS fandom is horrendous about it. I dont remember it being so bad back when i was looking at Azula drawings on devianart to use as my pfp on facebook. What the fuck happen. You cant say you like her without being labelled a nazi nowadays, i kid you not. You actually have a lot of azulafags who cope and seethe and try to explain how shes ackshually a
victim so shes not really evil. Like, no, retard. She IS evil. And thats what makes her awesome. I actually hate the comics for giving her a gay sad story.
No. 2361505
>>2359707At this point people use the word 'yuri' to refer to all types of media that isn't made in Japan and that may not even be manga/anime which makes blanket criticism of 'yuri' to be inaccurate in many cases. People should be more selective of what they call yuri to make discussions clearer.
>>2360175blame ao3, genfic was much more popular on FFN
No. 2361519
>>2361014Otome game spaces (which OP is a part of and I think is specifically addressing) are full of these retards who gloss over critique and are incapable of having decent discussion about female main characters, let alone the genre itself. Do not even get me started on some of the other JOPs here.
The vast majority of FMCs are feminine as fuck, and very few ever get into any "ass-kicking" action. Being feminine, soft, kind, and well-written - yes, I'm sure there are plenty of examples of that. There is just an absolute dearth of anything beyond these handful of traits. You can say this is a problem in media in general. It just feels so much worse with otome games since the pool of stuff to play is much smaller, compared to stuff like romance novels or shoujo/josei manga.
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>>2360775>but you also need to remember most people posting stuff like this are turbovirginsthis, 90% of fandom tards are virgins and their understanding of relationships and sex is influenced by bl, fan fiction, and role-playing with other inexperienced virgins on discord, they also tend not to have real-life friends, which limits their understanding of how actual people behave. for instance, the webtoon boyfriend author revealed that she essentially lives as a neet, rarely leaving her room and spending her days reading bl.
No. 2361650
>>2361601While it is true that romance can be an element within any genre or type of story, I don't believe that it therefore always ought to be included– if a romance adds nothing to a narrative yet takes its focus, all it's doing is derailing the rest of the story and therefore probably shouldn't be present or should have been toned down. Not everyone likes romance in fiction, and while yes, romance is an ordinary facet of life, that doesn't mean it must be present in any given story, nor are other human relationships not worth the focus often given to romance instead. To me, for example, it is far less interesting that a writer would always choose to focus on a romance between Hades and Persephone, rather than the love and grief Demeter had for her stolen daughter and her efforts to find her, yet retellings and AUs based around this myth will ignore or even demonise the latter figure to cater to the romance angle of the story instead.
Romance is not inherently bad, but it does shape stories in a way that becomes myopic, potentially overshadowing more interesting concepts and following its own pattern of tropes and plot beats– it isn't that romance must exist within a vacuum, but that it tends to
create one for itself. It is fair for people to be disinterested in it as much as it is for people to love it, and it doesn't need to be in everything to somehow create a truer reflection of the human experience, as if that comes in only one flavour.
No. 2361670
>>2361658Well, for one we're talking fanfic here, so money wasn't really the end goal kek, but even then, plenty of fiction still performs well enough despite having little to no romance involved. Sure, you might not sell as well as whatever YA/NA booktok darling is currently topping the charts, but writing to sell often ignores writing as a craft in favour of fiction that is quick and easy to produce– it's its own niche within the market, and not the goal of every writer or even all that present in all genres. Very few authors truly live off of their sales, most instead work another job or are in a position like being a stay-at-home mum that enables them to write and publish works on the side while still being financially secure.
Regardless, the joy of writing imo, be it original fiction or fanfic, is that you have very few limitations beyond your own imagination. Sure, publishing is rough, but it's still doable and your success often has more to do with your ability (or, if you're lucky, a trad publisher's) to market your work than it necessarily is to do with your story checking all the trending boxes.
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>>2361454This reminds me of how manchildren into family guy DESPISE lois. To the point of making autistic analysis of why she's the worst family guy character. I genuinely dont get it, she isnt worse than peter or any of the moid characters. They really just hate her for having a
problematic personality in a show that has a rapist pervert as a main character. Same thing goes for Peggy, but at least its more understandable in KOH since the characters are at least more realistic.
No. 2361973
>>2361670The whole reason I made a post was because i think it spills over into everything women read, write, media consumed. Its just another vein of misogyny. There's good writing, there's trash but It doesn't stop at fandom. Trashy people have children, get publicly intoxicated, do street takeovers, Its exhausting to think about any of it. All you can do is block garbage and fanart on tumblr.
I dont see the point of the discussion . Its like using sand to build a levy.
As for craft vs sales, why would you do limit yourself to one??? I don't see the logic in going only one way I'm not sure how anybody can nowadays. If you have a brain you'll do both without bowing to trends.
All i know is im not gonna cut a great vehicle for humor because it gets a moid constipated.
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What is this pushing of sleeping around, only fans and dating men who go to brothels as "good" and "feminist activism" in fan content these days. The last person I want lecturing to me untagged in their fanfics are morons like this defending only fans and having no standards in men
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>>2362081Why did she need to tell me I pissed her husband off too? because I said men who go to brothels are trashy and looking to chuff up their ego? Why are milennial women such doormats and cucks and trying to tell me that's progressive all the time
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>>2362097They just don't get it
No. 2362108
>>2362081>pushing of sleeping aroundIf it's about a female character it wouldn't annoy me so much if it didn't come off as so moid pleasing in nature most of the time. Like, bragging about how many dicks she sucked.
>>2362088>don't think im mad. im actually laughing at youKek, sure…
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>>2362108>If it's about a female character it wouldn't annoy me so much if it didn't come off as so moid pleasing in nature most of the time. >Like, bragging about how many dicks she sucked.This is why most "promiscuous proud slut" characters are never appealing to me. It's not so much that she's promiscuous that ticks me off, but in how she's promiscuous is what angers me. If you're going to make a character who sleeps around at the very least make her selfish to her own desires and pleasure rather than all about how good she is
to moids cause at least then it would make sense and won't make me eye roll and puke when she says the "I'm a slut cuz I love sex" line when everything about sex she's said prior is how good she is at servicing dick. Even in supposed feminist empowerment shows or stories, whenever there's a promiscuous woman she rarely ever speaks about her own pleasure. She's a slut, but not for herself, for men. So, what's empowering about that? Unironically, I want to see a slut character who's a slut in the way moids are sluts as that will be the only way I could even begin to enjoy such a character trait but that will never happen because moids would lose their fucking shit if she said something like.
>Ew, he's fat and old you couldn't make me sleep him. or
>He wouldn't give me head so I threw his clothes out the window, blocked him, locked him out of my apartment.or even
>He's young and hot, but I'm not really much into that commitment stuff so I string him along cause he's a good lay. No. 2362249
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>>2361445We need to re-allocate the energy we waste on nitpicking each other to bullying moids who want to fuck kids, animals, and dead bodies.
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>>2362205>fujos never gave a shit about shipping mlp charactersThey did, enough to find the crack ships with background characters who never interacted
No. 2362264
>>2362232Except for when they did (MLP,avatar,countless other kid shows). Pro shipper and antifaggers both are autistic but I'd side with noone considering the amount of troons in both who always turn out to be pedophiles or hidden pedophile moralfagging about other pedophiles
cant fucking believe you being against kiddie rapists is considered a controversy>>2362249Phonebooking sadly never works unless you find info that will expose them to other austistic moids how then go after them and harass the moids,a notable pedoartist was exposed by Korean terfs and the pedo just came back on another account unscathed
you can get investigated for using the word doxxing now so try to use alt words nonas No. 2362265
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>>2362232They have a point. Show for kids are always more porn rotted than show for adults because they attract weird autists. We're not talking 15/17 years old characters, we're talking pre-teens, toddlers and animals. Kids who simply want to discuss their favorite shows are told that the fandom belongs to adult moids with disgusting fetishes. Kids don't have a space to themselves on the internet anymore and it's a huge problem. Kids shouldn't be on the same platform as adults who make porn of stuffs like picrel.
No. 2362273
>>2362265Kids' only websites were always filled with pedos or were a huge cost to run due to moderation costs. It's better to make the entire web a adult only space already and stop elementary school kids from having instagram or tiktoks.
>>2362271Not really, websites being small and people actually caring about websites they use already gets them to moderate, not caring about the content they host is a social media or too big to fail problem where they won't be prosecuted.
No. 2362298
>>2362266Kids being exposed to porn at a young age is a problem. Cases of sexual assault between young children keep inflating for a reason. Boys don't just get out of the womb with violent rape fantasies, this is the result of leaving your kid on the internet unrestricted.
>>2362273I wish there was a way to restrict internet to 18+ only that didn't put our privacy at risk. Maybe we should just ban kids from using smartphones, tablets or even computers.
No. 2362317
>>2362266They
shouldn't be on the internet in the first place, other than education and communicating with friends/families, internet should only be adults only.
I mean c'mon, lots of us here had early internet exposure and it fucked us up one way or another, kek. The last thing to do is pass that poison unto to the younger generation.
That's why Australia is based for banning minors on the internet.
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>>2362346It's a shame but the best upside for me is that the child VAs are kept anonymous. Those kids will likely have their childhood show ruined but at least they won't have to watch groomers hook up with the child voice actors. I can't even handle seeing picrel anymore because of that shit.
No. 2362494
>>2362434We used to have games on the computer and it was so fun! I never had to interact with other people, I was just playing Barbie in the Barbie site, dress up games on games.it and then playing with my Nintendo on the side. I still stumbled on sex games though and I used to sneakily play dating sim hentai games, my mom found out and banished me from playing without her supervision. So overall the internet has never been safe for children.
The things that ruined everything is having all these games with live chats aimed at children where players communicate with other players, I’d even add that discord greatly contributes too.
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>>2362522Veronica's way out of both of their leagues (she's pretty hot) but LS Mark is way uglier than Chris and doesn't even have the plus of being kinda funny, he just tisms about fairly odd parents and family guy all day.
Everytime they stand together it's like a homely kid and his hot mom.
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>>2362483>I'm sure if we somehow get rid of all the children on the internet the world will become a better place.Yes, unironically
>What your solution to this?When it comes to shows like fucking Bluey or MLP, the actual target audience (like toddlers and elementary school kids) shouldn't be online at all outside of kids game sites. Like, as of right now. Is it that weird to expect? No actual kid should have a space to discuss Bluey, they should all fuck off. If I tag my posts correctly, I can draw all the yaoi I want kek. Not up to me to monitor a random kid who shouldn't be online in the first place.
All social media sites are 18+ and there should be a cultural shift to how unmonitored internet use in children is viewed. Same way there was a cultural shift in smoking. No phones in school. Kids should have social childhoods without the internet. Fuck social media in general. Fandom discussion should return to forums ideally but that won't happen. Everywhere on the internet should be 18+ even SFW spaces. Nobody should pander to minors or have minor mutuals; they should all be blocked on site. Just like with old forums, the expectation is that you agree to be 18+ and then act like in an adult with kids being banned/blocked on site.
No. 2362539
>>2362529That's true, her personality is pretty shit but I feel like she could get a hotter guy anyway.
>>2362533If she keeps that up one of them is gonna set her house on fire kek.
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>>2362549The guy she cheated on Mark with is uglier than both though kek.
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>>2361595nativety might be a factor, but I suspect at least some of it is pushed by troons who really hate the idea of heterosexuality, not for "man-hating" reasons, but because they are jealous of attractive men. A recent example I saw was this panel from a new wonder-woman comic, where she was just mourning her long-established love interest, steve trevor, and the qrts were just troon's seething at this, claiming she should only be a lesbian and her daughter should be retconned.
No. 2362675
>>2362574Helping your kid make up an internet alias should be a right of passage tbh. I remember my older sibling helping me with mine.
Hell, just telling a kid "stay away from anything we can't vouch for because it's filled with viruses and the fbi will come to arrest you if you download discord" should be enough to scare them away from a good chunk of crap.
No. 2362724
>>2362677>She's not even been a "feminist" icon for that long either. When did she even become one? I'm no expert but from what I've seen, Wonder Woman hasn't really distanced herself from her origins as BDSM fodder for her coomer creator. She's almost never written by women, nor given any good writing.
>>2362705God, is it
Tom King? All I've heard and read from this dude are bad things.
No. 2362734
>>2362724>She's almost never written by women, nor given any good writing. It's a complicated situation. For the longest time, and still today, Wonder Woman is under the Superman editorial. For decades, Berganza was the head editor of this branch, and he would serially sexually harass women. Instead of firing him, they instead decided not to hire women. Even after booting him in 2017, they treat WW like trash and just throws her at any male writer they have, instead of people (women especially) who want to work on them. And each of these men feel the need to 'reinvent' her, when there are perfectly good foundations for her mythos and setting created by Rucka or Perez, the footprint is there. They've also been forced to include her in a DC comics every 90 issues or so, or they lost the rights and it reverts back to the estate of her creator, so they have to treat her as relevant. And yes, its Tom King.
No. 2362936
>>2362734>throwing characters at random writers instead of interested writers>these writers then feel the need to 'reinvent' said character rather than use perfectly good existing material as a base or understand what people even like about them to begin with>audience shockingly doesn't enjoy this/feels the disdain coming through the pageI am so tired of this behaviour from writers in general, it so clearly comes from having a chip on their shoulders over either not getting to write their favourite character's book or not being able to hack it as an original fiction writer (or both) and taking it out on the job they do have. Just suck it up and be normal, do a good job and then maybe get more sway in working on a passion project etc after a successful run
(tbh this also goes for people who warp a story while working on an adaptation to suit their tastes rather than see the merit in the original. so much retarded ego)
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No shade if you're one of the nonas with this fetish, but I kek'd at all of the anons in the /m/ incest thread who admitted to being only children. I feel like in a lot of cases, in order to develop that fetish in the first place you have to have very little personal experience with what having a sibling is actually like.
No. 2364615
>>2362266>Fuck them kidsSee, this is why you all be on twitter getting into 100 thread arguments with 12-year-olds over how
problematic Hannibal is, instead of them being on some Club Penguin equivalent trying to tip icebergs with other kids their age.
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>>2362139Controversial opinion but this was Panty in P&S. That’s why moids gravitated towards Stocking (since she represented the sexually available, passive emo gf into ugly bastards) whereas girls tend to like Panty because she actively went around drooling about how hot the guys she wanted to fuck were and how badly she wanted to ride them.
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>>2364763God it’s sad how the standard for female characters in eastern media has almost gone backwards over the past ten years. It would be bad enough if they just dehumanised them more and delivered more incel fanservice, but on TOP of that you now have retards in every other fandom lecturing you on how empowering it is to constantly see tits/ass or calling you a misogynist for dismissing passive waifus made for men. I miss girls’ girls characters like Panty. I can’t think of the last time I saw an anime women being sexually active for her own pleasure and not the male viewers’. And yeah, they probably will butcher the fuck out of her in season 2 given the current otaku climate. She’s been mythologised too much since the OG show for moids to be able to write her normally or recapture her charm.
No. 2364810
>>2364778Dont know the exact specifics sonce I never read it myself but this reminded me of a fanservice manga where a promiscuous female character asks the mc if he wants to fuck and then calls him retarded for not getting on with it and putting so much importance on virginity.
For some reason it got moids pissed and they made threads until the manga ended shitting on her for saying that and saying she ruined the manga by being slutty.
No. 2364859
>>2364830GRRM definitely had a fetish for not only incest, but anything that involved an underage girl in a forced marriage with an older man.
>>2364829And not to call his work good, but GRRM's series' are an example that everyone knows. Look at the Dune series as well, wherein their plot can be poorly described as an arranged cousin marriage gone wrong.
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>>2365334No, I was about to try and describe it but then that managed to jog my memory lol
No. 2365447
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>>2359760this just reminds me of how troon advocates(including many libfems) try to use black and brown women as scapegoats to justify tims being considered women, and would look at you straight in the face and tell you unconventional-looking or non-white woman are less womanly them moids on estrogen, meanwhile this is what they look like irl
No. 2365485
>>2365466We're talking about anniemay cartoon characters, not real life, moids will chase after literal succubui, monsters and girls that would outright kill them.
The reason why Stocking is more popular than Panty is the same reason why Raven is more popular than Starfire despite Starfire being naive, "pure" and cutesy: goth and goth-adjacent beats all.
No. 2365523
>>2365507>When in reality an alt woman would have higher standards overallIn what universe? Nearly every "alt" girl I've ever seen always has some ugly moid for a boyfriend, even dating back to highschool I recall seeing caked up scene girls having the fattest, ugliest league of legends-playing neckbeards for boyfriends.
>Nerds associate goth / scene with cartoon girls and girls they wanted to fuck growing upBut the real question is why that interest even exist in the first place, I think the main reason is that they think goth/alt girls are more likely to be fellow nerds and will have more in common with them than the more conventional-looking normalfag girls. The idea of alt girls being more "novel" and unconventional compared to "regular girls" probably plays a factor too.
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>>2362200Beep beep, the bronies called.
No. 2365585
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>>2362200Bronies were racist as
fuck. No. 2365607
>>2365523>I think the main reason is that they think goth/alt girls are more likely to be fellow nerds and will have more in common with them than the more conventional-looking normalfag girlsYeah it's this. If you know anything about nerds, weebs, edgelords and outcasts/former outcasts it's that they absolutely DESPISE normalfag women. It's blatant misogyny, they believe normie women have zero personality, that they are boring, basic, or that they are all dumb bimbos with no flavour and stupid girly interests. Meanwhile alt women seem so interesting and soooo different and cool and mysterious and artistic (even though a lot of them are rebellious posers and have straight up unpleasing pesonalities, just in a different fashion kek). But the thing is, alt women are more likely to have pick me tendencies and go along with their antics and do dumb shit with them. And by alt women I only mean tomboy emo-adjacent or any chick with tattoos, bangs, piercings and a curvy figure, I'm convinced true authentic goths actually scare them and they also avoid pastel alt women or from other niche communities like gyaru or lolita.
No. 2365610
>>2365607They also get
very angry when alt/gothic women don't want to date them kek
No. 2365639
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>>2365607>and they also avoid pastel alt women or from other niche communities like gyaru or lolita.Gyaru is fucking huge with otakus
Lolita less so but you still see cast off figures for it here and there.
No. 2365648
>>2365643It just died out like every other trend, a big reason was that magazines were encouraging the style to look more and more normie so it was more and more palatable to the masses to the point where it just became regular fashion and the subculture died.
Gyarus pretty much changed their fashion every year depending on what was popular while Lolitas only stuck to one style which is why it’s lasted within its niche.
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Is ganguro still alive as a subculture?
No. 2365675
>>2365668No. The only remnant of gyaru/ganguro is overseas people (which just kind of makes them accidental chavs or jersey shore types) and women in hostess clubs in japan.
Gyaru and ganguro is pretty much exclusively a thing used as an anime trope nowadays.
No. 2365681
>>2365668Not sure what type of gyaru it actually is, but a couple of the fanartists I follow seem to be of a sort.
Also the artist behind Nanbaka.
No. 2365722
>>2365639This is so weird because weren't gyarus stigmatized as sluts who would not grow up to be "good women"? If I remember, ancient anime
Peach Girl's protagonist got treated this way even though she's tan from swimming.
But now they're a waifu archetype???? Is see so many gyaru media nowadays.
Also, a funny thing about "modern gyaru media" is that the girls tend to be pale as fuck—Marin,
Hokkaido Girls are Cuties girl, that one girl who wasn't a virgin that made scrotes seethe (kek)—wasn't the point of gyaru
not following beauty standards (I.e. pale skin)?
They want them to be both "subversive" (short skirts, piercings, genkiii!!! personality) but still cling to "proper" standards (pale skin, a virgin who doesn't know what pp is uwu)
No. 2365735
>>2365722Samefag, this reminds me of magical girls, like gyarus they too got co-opted by moids because of Madoka Magica and that's why you got repulsive shit like Gushing Over Magical Girls. Go further and it was Minky Momo.
One can even argue that lolicon was also "technically" stolen too as it was originally born from pedophiles mimicking the art style of shojo manga.
Vidrel, we'll never got something like this again as gyarus are not for girls anymore.
No. 2365736
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>>2365722Do you seriously think otakus aren't into slutty girls? Anon the fuck are you smoking.
>wasn't the point of gyaru not following beauty standards (I.e. pale skin)?Shirogyaru was a pretty common thing, the whole 'rejecting beauty standards' thing is pretty overexaggerated anyway, most gyaru/ganguros were just party girls.
I do think that shirogyaru in anime usually fall more into the 'slut who doesn't know she's a slut' trope though (see: Galko chan) but most of the time gyaru is just used as a hentai trope just go on vndb and see for yourself kek.
No. 2365740
>>2365722Many of the artists involved grew up back when gyaru was a trend so it fits their "girl I wish I dated/girl who rejected me in highschool" archetype.
Most hs anime portray 10-20 years back trends, hence why recent "modern highschool" fanservice anime are phasing gym bloomers out despite it being an easy fanservice trope.
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>>2365749Jirai already has
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>>2365736>Do you seriously think otakus aren't into slutty girls?Kek, what?? Sure they're "into them"—in their train rapist ugly bastard hentais, sure. But otakus are obsessed with purity that's why idols and lolicons exist.
Picrel is the gyaru I was talking about that the moids seethed. She was a dumb girl who got taken advantage of, she even tearfully tells self-insert-kun that she wished he was her first time.
But go into Manga Updates or MyAnimeList and you'll see forum goers treating her like NTRed protag-kun deliberately.
Another character I think of is Sakura from Fate/Stay Night, canonically she was raped by worms as child because magic magic whatever and then frequently molested by her adopted onii-chan.
Even though she's a
victim and the story frames her as such, you'll still see some memes now and then of her being "impure" for Shirou or whatever.
There are so many examples but we'd be here all day.
So yeah, Otakus
do not like sluts.
No. 2365759
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>>2365755>"mean girl"Great, now you reminded of this bitch.
Her antics are entertaining tho, ngl. No. 2365765
>>2365754>Kek, what?? Sure they're "into them"—in their train rapist ugly bastard hentais, sure. But otakus are obsessed with purity that's why idols and lolicons exist.Did you ever consider that they're into both kek. Madonna whore complex exists for a reason.
>canonically she was raped by worms as child because magic magic whatever and then frequently molested by her adopted onii-chan.Sakura sucks, she deserved it honestly.
On top of that earlier in the thread you guys were pretending that moids didn't like panty even though every guy on /a/ is like "It was the anime I got my first boner to" and praises the fuck out of both of them for being jack off material. Maybe I could see the argument that moids don't really waifu sluts in the same way they do with purityfag waifus but they certainly jack off to them and buy merch of them.
No. 2365771
>>2365759Ironically there's actually less masochist otakus nowadays kek
The main one was Nagatoro and even she got toned down and had a fair amount of backlash, compare this to the 2000s were waifus like Louis were fucking huge and tsundere maid cafes where girls just insult you were a thing.
No. 2365779
>>2365771To be fair, hypertsunderes are genuinely annoying. Even when I was a young weebette I never found their slapsticky beatings of their love interests as funny or "haha manhate based"—they're just
that irritating.
No. 2365789
>>2365779I mean they're not FOR women kek, they're still pretty clear waifubait characters just in a more spicy flavor.
>>2365783>I remember a lot of scrotes seething about MUH DOUBLE STANDARDS when it came to anime girls beating their men upAutistic men be like that, I think they just don't get that a lot of guys are masochists because they're tismos.
With that being said I actually like Dokuro chan, shit's funny.
No. 2365794
>>2365775I remember absolutely
hating both of these characters kek. The guy deserved to get beaten to near-death on a daily basis but Louise was also very annoying.
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>>2365794Tsunderes work best when they're paired with another tsundere tbh.
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>>2365779I always thought violent female classic tsunderes were obnoxious
No. 2365818
>>2365639It was odd seeing Gyaru active but niche turn into a character trope as a dead style
>>2365736this would be based if it was actual BL (no turning into a woman)
No. 2365824
>>2365736I was always confused as to who this manga was for. Judging by the art style
I think it's for fujos who want to self-insert as the uke literally? I don't even think the regular hetero men would like it as the hot girl was still a guy so it's still technically gay.
Repressed AGPs maybe?
No. 2365825
>>2365824>I was always confused as to who this manga was forFujos who also like tits
It's not that deep.
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>>2365831I'd argue that this is actually most jp fujos, it's why you see genderswap stuff so much on BL tags.
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>>2365837Yea same photoset.
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Why do women's geek spaces need disclaimers for having an opinion on anything? It's like you need to be positive 100% of the time and assure everyone that it's totally valid to like whatever you dislike.
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>>2366338I was reading the neil gaiman piece and boy oh boy is this a nail on the on why fandom culture is the way it is, If you're obsessed with fandom and shipping, especially in areas like anime, you might not be the most stable or well-adjusted person, media often becomes a part of your identity, and when that identity is challenged, it can lead to strong reactions and if you get off to it, those reactions can be even more intense
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>>2365738Yeah, that's the one.
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>>2365735Based Gals! enjoyer, may your skin always be moisturized
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>>2366948>>2365867It's not by Harada, but Love/Death is a short yuri manga about 2 yandere girls in a relationship
No. 2367034
>>2366948It shows up in stories where it’s not directly yuri but has yuri themeing in it. In actual yuri stories it’s not that common because yuri has a heavy emphasis on pure love and yanderes are kind of the opposite of that.
Even happy sugar life had more ‘pure love’ elements compared to man on man or het yandere couples.
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>>2365722Reminds me how a bunch of moids lost their shit some weeks ago because this artist dared to say they don't draw "otaku friendly" gyaru
No. 2367308
>>2365487Goth and alt girls are the Stacies of the nerd world because they are fellow outcasts and are therefore more attainable. Conventionally attractive women who conform to societal beauty standards are way out of their league (but nerdy boys lust after them anyway and you'll see the "popular girl has a secret nerdy side and is more relatable to nerdy boys" trope sometimes in media). It's why moids thirst after Velma more than Daphne.
Another reason is that alt women and girls are perceived to have looser sexual boundaries. A lot of alt fashion is based on BDSM gear or just is BDSM gear. These men have dominatrix fetishes but dressing it up as "muh goff girls" helps them sound less like a coomer.
>>2365523Agree.
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>>2367313>>2366976Everyday I see new gyaru x otaku slop on Mangadex and it's always the same shitty premise with the most basic bitch otkau friendly looking gyaru character that's purely fetish bait. The only good gyaru x otaku manga I've seen is Super Baby, the author seems to have a genuine understanding of gyaru subculture the characters are well rounded and sweet and the story handles both light hearted topics and dark ones well but surprise surprise it's not translated because the main gyaru character isn't a big boobed slut who lusts after the male lead (while also being a shy virgin too.)
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>the one instance where the "straight ship" isn't straight and yet fandomtards refuse to call it "queer"
No. 2367732
>>2367271In addition to what
>>2367279 said, some teenagers also just enjoy being edgelords and "
triggering" the squares with whatever weird slop they enjoy.
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>>2367050Apparently this is what the drawing means
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I don't want another pro/anti debate, but It infuriates me to see thirdies in fandom pushing this victimhood narrative, cause as a third-worlder myself, I know for a fact that if you’re spending all day on social media, sperging about comics and either pro/anti shipping, you’re living in a bubble of privilege and you have way more in common with first-worlders than with your own countrymen and they should face that reality.
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>>2367313To be fair Hima designed some pretty peak lolita outfits.
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>>2367988ot but depressing to know that we're likely going to lose all the talented russian artists and game creators because of the new internet they're getting, a few have managed to break free thanks to vpns, but according to some of my mutuals, even that seems to be coming to an end.
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Just had to school a kid that me calling an ugly-bastard-trope character "disgusting" is not body shaming
No. 2368079
>>2368072Sure, though I think I summarized in my post. The cultural context matters though, in Japan women are expected to be virginal, very modest in appearance and quiet in behavior which is true even to this day, so to rebel against that gyarus were loud, obnoxious, used alcohol, smoked, swore like sailors and had no regard for social conduct, had over the top makeup styles (huge false eyelashes, bleached hair, circle lenses, tanned skin, long fake nails etc) and were openly sexually active (and a lot of them did sex work and hostess jobs because they often came from broken homes/poverty). IIRC a lot of it, particularly notoriously ganguro, was originally inspired by styles from the 90's Hawaii which is an US state but also a popular travel destination for the Japanese so there's where a lot of it comes from. But gyaru was mostly gentrified in the early 2010's and watered down into just "girl has fake nails and a cute skirt" kind of wussy bullshit and in anime it's usually just "girl has a tan and big tits rubbing them into the protagonist's face" slut stereotype.
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>>2368002please be kidding i can't deal with kids being that retarded
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I'm not sure where else to put this but it feels best suited for the fandom discourse thread. So when I was 16, I used to lie about my age and befriend 25+ year old fanfiction writers to talk about nsfw scenarios of my favourite ships. We would discuss genuinely hardcore stuff, and not once did it occur to me that it might be unfair to deceive an adult into talking about porn with a child unknowingly. Jump to today, where I just found out that a fellow fan I've been having nsfw chats with is 16, while I am now 20 years old. They knew this, and only just decided to tell me despite posting porn on their side account and having 18+ in bio. I feel so gross, like the typical Discord pedophile who gets callouts on Twitter for having 'weird' chats with teenagers online. Of course I'm going to cut off this person now but it kind of leaves a bigger question in the air:
While I don't think of myself as a 'victim', don't you all think it's a bit too normalised for minors to do this on the internet? I feel really, really gross thinking about the discussions I had with that kid while not knowing their real age. Hell, I even did it myself at 16 because there weren't any adults explicitly scolding you for it, since they also did the same thing and so on and so forth. Have any of you nonas ever found yourself in a similar scenerio? What did you do about it? What are your thoughts?
No. 2368371
>>2368002The objective of the ugly bastard
is to be as disgusting as possible. It's essential part of the trope so that the rape is even more humiliating for the woman
No. 2368398
>>2368354The same happened to me, when I was 22 I was discussing NSFW fanfiction with a 16-year old. Both of us being women. I didn't think any of it back then, and nobody around me thought it was weird. Only when this topic started coming up in the mainstream a few years ago I freaked out and felt gross about the entire thing, and every day I'm paranoid about being called out for being a "groomer" because I gushed over the same fictional ship with a minor.
But that said, I did the same when I was 16. I hid my age to discuss NSFW stuff with adults and even now I still don't find anything unsettling about it, those adults were all women and didn't get weird outside of a fictional context ever. But all the moids who sent me disgusting, sexual comments and tried to prod me for actual IRL nudes still fucking haunt me. I hate that the distinction between these two has been erased and both are considered "predators". Is adult women discussing NSFW fiction with minors weird? Yeah, you shouldn't do that. But online the lines do get blurred because you simply see their text output and don't really comprehend that who you're speaking to is actually a child if they're blending in to the discussion about media. It's not comparable to sliding into underage DMs to put their backs against the wall without nobody there to see.
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>>2368337>>2368346Ayrt I wish I was kidding but it was a legit fat ugly scrote in a porn manhwa kekkkk. My comment expressing my disgust had over 20 likes and no comments, but then some retarded kid projected onto me saying I'm "body shaming" "just because he's overweight" and that I'm "gross" (she also liked her own comment which was cute). I had to explain what an ugly bastard was and the purpose of the trope. Near enough to what
>>2368371 said. I never got a reply back lmaooooo.
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>>2368407I wonder whether the person who made that edit even knows what it references… Let alone seen it.
No. 2368437
>>2368016VK is popular but there are a lot of Russian artists in other places. Also, you can use any phone number to register there, not just Russian number.
What pains me is that the Ru gvt started to block the websites with Russian fanfics (that is, those with LGBT themes), forcing them to delete the works that offend the regime. A lot of good fanfics were lost. Some were saved in AO3 but not all of them.
And they also tried banning/hiding the pirated manga websites. Piracy isn’t good but it’s not like obtaining a license to publish, say, LGBT content from Japan or Korea is possible in current political climate. And now it’s hard to look for it because the government thinks they can control what you read.
>>2368023Yep.
No. 2368445
>>2368432Yup. Yuri is non controversial because lesbian sex is the most watched porn category on the planet earth (by males of course). Yaoi is
problematic because it makes men uncomfortable.
No. 2368446
>>2367835>In fact, US/UK is barely popular at all. Wonder what changed.Unironically stupid faggots who clamor that the ship is
problematic. Either because of "age gap" or because they're "brothers" therefore it's incest. I fucking hate this timeline. Francis x Arthur is garbage and I will never ship them because it's the socially correct thing to do. Fuck France. Worst boy next to that faggot Sealand and Prussia
No. 2368454
>>2368449Just ignore the bait, we should be able to have actually intelligent conversations about the hows and why's of this without having to whisper and use code languages to avoid
triggering retards.
No. 2368458
>>2367835No, let's have a hetalia discussion. Why the fuck is hetalia popping up again after being condemned for the past 12 or 13 years? It was literally everywhere for 2009-2011 and then all of a sudden it was horrifically
problematic for making light of WW2 and was shunned to the deepest pits of hell, but now people like it again. Is it the young zoomies/old gen alphas wishing they were millenials and taking their media?
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>>2367965Just because some of us are online and some are retarded zoomers doesn't mean we are in a bubble of privilege kek. Being a thirdie sucks ass even as a middle-class person, besides op none of you will never even begin to understand how it feels like so at least be glad you're not in our place. The tweet was cringe but the pain is real.
>.t nerdy thirdie woman in a heavily misogynistic country. No. 2368494
>>2368354About a decade ago, personally, I was very open about being 13-14 years old kek. Me and my 2 other same-aged online friends would openly joke about being the only kids/teenagers in the fandom (it was for a nickelodeon property, all ages).
I still had adult friends, ranging from 19 to 27. They would send NSFW dialogue (stuff about sex and some character's dick) to my inbox as a joke and one initiated hardcore nsfw RP with me over skype. I played along because I thought it was a joke lmao.
Another friend, 11 years older than me, I accidentally came across her fandom porn account while looking for fanart, which I ignored and she was very apologetic about. She became more openly "pro-shipper" "fiction=/reality" and her art degraded heavily looking like bad furry art, which I ignored until she, at 30, shared posts about how pedophiles don't deserve prison, but rehabilitation. Looking her up, she only makes porn now, makes rape/incest comics, and is into pedophilia and paraphilias. Some other adult friends, I also broke off because of them sympathizing with real-life pedos.
The same-aged friends I had don't go online as much anymore, but they grew up to be normies with social lives which is much preferable, thank god. I used to roleplay with them but we never talked about nsfw, just funny scenarios with our characters.That experience may be part of why I avoid discussing nsfw in general, though unfortunately that's not a solution for avoiding minors in nsfw spaces. When you're a teen, having friends the same age as you is the best experience and I wish more minors online would realize that. Personally I wasn't particularly interested in nsfw till my 20s kek so I can't understand teens who want to discuss it, but there should be a way for them to easily seek each other out instead of joining adult spaces.
No. 2368495
>>2365765May I asked why
"she deserved it" Holy shit do people even read the source material?
No. 2368554
>>2368545What was the callout for?
Honestly it's interesting seeing how many nonnas don't bear any ill will towards adult women who had sexual conversations with them online as teens. The thought of doing so with a younger girl makes me feel ill, even if it's just about anime characters, but looking back, I don't really feel traumatized from that type of experience either as a kid, it was always moids trying to (and sometimes succeeding) take advantage of me that wound up making me fucked in the head. Reminds me of the synnibear situation tbqh, I hope she's getting the help she needs.
>>2368551Isn't the whole point of gyaru fashion to rebel against societal expectations of women in Japan? I honestly have mad respect for that artist for doubling down.
No. 2368558
>>2368551Nta Omg an actual former gyaru? You're so cool.
>many fashion tribes that became associated with gyaru weren't gyaru at all, but they all got stuck under the same umbrella. Can I ask which ones?
No. 2368616
>>2368554kind of yes and no? gyaru is kind of a misused term in my opinion. mostly others would call you gyaru instead of you calling yourself gyaru and the term meant something different in mainstream speech before it was applied to ganguro. and it started just being used as a blanket term for any trendy girls in the 90s and on. i feel like in 2005+ any girls that were fashionable were "gyaru".
if you think about ganguro, it was started by trendy high school girls following some of the shibuya trends influenced by the west, USA and italy specifically. it eventually became more crazy styles like yamanba and manba, but these were more about freaking people out than trying to go against norms intentionally. everyone doing it at the beginning was in high school so they were rebelling at school and it was just fun and attention grabbing and didn't have much consequences. it started out small as ganguro, but then got more and more crazy when girls tried to get away with more and more. i think yamanba and manba were very much more true gyaru than anything else considered gyaru because they were pushing the limit to piss people off for fun. this type of gyaru was kind of like the hot girl cousin to yankii and it became an underground beauty norm slowly. in the 90s the internet changed how much influence the western could have directly on styles and music and etc so gyaru really became mainstream then with celebrity styles being called gyaru and the definition shifting to any fashion conscious consumers. it wasn't really fighting the norm anymore once it started being a consumer buzzword.
>>2368558basically anything that isn't yamanba, manba or ganguro (also what's called sometimes kogyaru) i think a main one is hime gyaru which describes atleast 3 different fashion tribes like nagoyajyo, diamante girls, and mainstream fashions like himekaji all lumped together. none of those tribes would really associate themselves with yamanba or manba or ganguro and are related to what is known as the "hime boom" which isn't gyaru related at all. same with a lot of "styles" which really aren't gyaru related but the word gyaru was used to market it as trendy and western. another thing is that himekaji was started in the idol community and exists now with the name girly kei and amekaji was just a shibuya style starting in the 70s. gyaru doesn't really have substyles and ganguro, manba and yamanba are just different ways girls chose to style themselves based on fads at the time.
sorry if my explanation is bad i am pretty bad with typing sometimes. i can explain more if anyone is interested. maybe we can make a thread on another board?
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>>2368480>>2368500I'm the original poster and I didn't mean to completely dismiss thirdies who are into fandom and nerdy shit because I'm one of them, my actual point was how much I dislike seeing these people speak as any sort of authority for our nations and spread made up bullshit, for example, an 'asexual indian' who claims that India was trans-inclusive before the british arrived, shit like that.
No. 2368996
>>2368464Kekkk, that's so pathetic that it's funny. At the end of the day it's between two different types of moid self-inserters, it's just that one group is so insecure they can't have any males on screen
at all. I know this because men are retarded and can't ship characters normally.
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Noncon aside, what motivates women/TIFs to write pussyboy stuff, usually? Is it a creative way to self insert or does it come from a place of genuine same sex attraction? Or some other third reason?
No. 2369190
>>2369182they relate submissiveness and/or degradation with one of the most female things ever: having a pussy
I hate these people so much
No. 2369348
>>2369328As opposed to the badly written hardcore porn in which every single character reads the same and like they're starring in a porn video?
I hate slop like coffee shop AUs like the rest, but to argue that smut fic isn't mostly trash either is disingenous.
No. 2369396
>>2369360No I think it's the reverse. Fake fujoshi and tifs who can't help but make the uke a tif or a cuntboy get told they're making unrealistic art and fanfics by gay nerds for it and pretend they're the
victims here. Plenty of BL aren't realistic or are simplified because starving all day long or shitting on a dick isn't hot or glamorous, but gay nerds are either okay with this for the same reasons or are just lightly making fun of BL manga without being offended by them, but tifs and handmaidens are too autistic to notice when it's in good jest. The gay men who seethe because of BL manga and gay shipping are normies so it doesn't even concern them. But even these ones tend to shit talk tifs more than the average fujoshi.
No. 2369423
>>2369348Where did I defend smutfics? Any one-dimensional fic focused entirely around tropes is going to be shit. That includes found family high school AU genfic written by 13 year olds, dom/sub BDSM ABO fujo nonsense written by sexless virgins, or enemies to lovers coffee shop soulmates hanahaki AU femslash written by someone who has never had a relationship outside of twitter. But if you’re browsing on ao3 (or god forbid some shit like wattpad), you should already know this.
It’s like going into a nonfiction bookshop dedicated to travel guides and books about WW2 and being like ‘what the fuck, WHERE is my friends to lovers only one bed porn book?????’ Bitch, the old men they opened this bookshop for don’t want to read that shit, just like the horny touch-starved teenagers/middle aged women on ao3 don’t want to read about Midoriya and Bakugo being besties holding hands and making friendship bracelets. Fandom has changed since two decades ago when FFN was still relevant and was a good source for genfic (and this was only the case because FFN had always banned anything even vaguely explicit anyway).
No. 2369446
>>2369163I don't know if you'd call this self inserting but some women have trouble connecting sexually to a scenario where female sexual organs aren't being stimulated because it's hard to "feel" anatomy you don't have. Two men fucking in the ass does nothing to you if you don't have a dick nor want to be fucked in the ass, maybe you can find their reactions hot but there's no way to relate deeper than that. In other words they'd probably enjoy more normal het stuff but think "cishet" = bad, desensitized to the weirdness of TIFism, and happen to like a yaoi ship for other nonsexual reasons first (looks, chemistry, etc.) so they try to build a sexual scenario they find arousing. It's like why moids draw yuri hentai sometimes but most of it, and the most popular, have female characters taking dick whether from a moid or "futa".
>>2369360Could be that they just don't know how to write men buttfucking, though it's not that complicated and who cares when it's just women reading it
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Love how the fendom feminist brigade was pissed off when the comment isn't far off the reality. Time to put tbese jobless morons to the mines.
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>>2369576I never liked Robin, but Astra has unironically made me appreciate her. I don’t understand why some women on Twitter go out of their way to defend female characters from gachaslop. Imagine if men started fiercely defending the outfit designs of male characters from nucarni—it would come off as ridiculous.
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>>2369636I love Robin (picrel) and Astra Yao (the rightmost black haired girl) is one of the ugliest fucking designs I've seen and I'm personally offended that people keep comparing this piece of shit waifubait to her, it's no wonder Robin is really popular with female players while nobody wants to touch ZZZ except terminally pornrotted pickmes who think they'll eventually get personal benefits from gobbling down this hypersexualized tripe. Men will never see them as exceptions and they'll never see the benefits of sucking otaku moid dick because there is none.
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>>2369576The qrts are sending me. Are fags misogynistic as fuck and deserve to get bullied for it? Absolutely. But using that logic to whiteknight coomerbait female characters created by moids from a Chinese gacha company is just wild to me.
No. 2370004
>>2369989Nta but this is the best explanation I've seen. I'm lesbian and find CB disgusting and have not known any other lesbians into CB so the 'secretly homo!1!!' allegations never made sense to me, I've only seen (unfortunately) rape
victim TIFs who draw CB as their "one step removed" maledom rape and abuse fetishes. They basically eroticise their abuse and make the CB character the focal point because it's basically self harm.
It's nuanced in some ways because not all artists who draw CB are tifs and not all tifs are abuse
victims, but the ones who make the most disgusting CB art I've seen have been tifs who are being abused or have been abused because that's literally all they draw. They turn the hatred inward. Being a tif is self harm in itself anyway because it's societal-approved mutilation. It all connects. Also it's not like you can bully them to stop drawing it because that would just feed into the self-hate like cutting off a hydra's head.
Tifs really do come across as seeing themselves as disgusting for being female and then draw this porn-fetish self insert being abused by a moid. I assume the chinese CB artists are like this too but without the societal-approved titchops.
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>>2365739Real Stacies love Cutie Honey. Go back to watching Arcane.
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>>2370027>They were so woke in a patriarch society were women did not have opinion nor rights, but they were so woke because they liked teens and eunuchs.Sometimes I wonder why these kind of people want to place the ancient times as woke/open minded if back then they wouldn't even be able to speak at all. "Our culture was good before this"? "What you never learned about it in school because…"?
No. 2370597
>>2362617Literally no one behaves like this when it comes to Batman or Superman.
Steve has as much relevancy as Lois or any of the endless human love interests male superheroes have
Wondy’s writing is usually mediocre because the writers get stupid or uncreative with her so their relationship suffers
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Given the intersection of Disco Elysium, tumblr, and twitter on lolcow I’m surprised the “ Disco Elysium but witch in the alps” post wasn’t mentioned here
No. 2370606
>>2370602Sorry for deleting I got embarrassed with how much I wrote but yes
It’s silly. Steve was created FOR Diana. Either he becomes motivation or they have kids like every other male superhero and their FL.
No. 2370607
>>2370601Kek I remember reading this before somewhere. Isn't the whole point of disco elysium the fact that he was
a sexual assault survivor and uses his various addictions to cope? He hates being touched and self harms a lot. I think the point of making him a white man was so it didn't hit so close to home with the female player base.
No. 2370725
>>2370600Yep. Wokies cry about imperialism, but they think it's their god-given right to force their opinions and norms on other countries via tumblr, twitter, etc. It's especially funny when non-Americans adopt terms like "BIPOC" and when you point out to them that the "I" then must surely stand for the native white, their little brains stop working, kek.
I dream of an internet without Americans shitting up any kind of fandom with their performative activism.
No. 2370813
>>2370601>I want a silly cutesy young witch girly solving the disappearance of her neighbor's cat in the Alps! uwuNo you don't kek. These people talk all big about how they want wholesome comfy aesthetics but then always go for the gritty edgelord shit with a conventionally attractive (or at least attractive to a
victim of the ugly moid psyop) white guy main character.
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>become fan of new game from an older franchise
>start following several fanartists
>worst fandom artist(korean pedophile caught tracing cp) latches onto my favourite girl
>he's a gross ryonafag
>Start seeing more and more ryona art of her to the point i get tired and stop following all fanartists from that game
i am never following any waifu franchise again, i am sticking to bishies only from now on
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>>2370846was this your favorite girl?
No. 2370973
>>2370911Ew, a WHITE woman. You're right
nonnie, they shoulda made her a latinx chalupa native-american amputee hijabi. I'm honestly so proud of our lc community, we've come such a long way from where we began…
No. 2371195
>>2371178I think she said that unironically and that's why people make fun of it. If you look up her username you'll see that she's always been posting sjw stuff and her twitter is private so I doubt it's all satire
No. 2371351
>>2370911I know people are dunking on her so hard because she’s a woman but the post itself is bizarre
>i loved this gritty game>wish there was something like it but not gritty It reads like someone attempting to ragebait to get attention
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>>2370601>>2370619There are so many women who wish The Rape Game wasn't The Rape Game, it's kind of funny in a sense. You don't like The Rape Game, but you want The Rapist LI in a heccin wholesum game? Yeah, whatever. Who even cares anymore.
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>>2371375Judging by the actual numbers, non-explicit fics are by far the most common. If you sort all stories by kudos, on the first page only 2 are explicit and the rest are teen or gen. All data points to smut being less popular and lots of stories without shipping at all.
It's funny that this discussion is about BNHA in particular, I don't really care for it but I used to read fic for it sometimes and I stopped completely because there were so many overlong wish fulfilment power fantasy stories by obvious teenagers who can't write. I can scroll down a page of BNHA fic and know to ignore most of it based solely on the excess of tags on any given fic. If there's any issue with the fandom, it's that sort of amateurish writing rather than an excess of smut.
No. 2371461
>>2371415Female-focused gaming is kind of in the dumps unless your playing cozy-farm simulator #3000, gachas that squeeze every ounce of disposable income it's players make like LADs or have a PC that can run Sims with mods without exploding on you, while also squeezing the money out them like sponges. The fact that people have to fight for bits and scraps in games that are so blatantly male focused that they feel like they have to play the second coming of Rance isn't that much of a shocker.
Either way, if they want a ML that'll spit on them or tsun just go play fields of mistria when it comes out.
No. 2371476
>>2371413Kind of a derail, but these idiots literally
can play DOL the way they want to. They can just play on easy mode and/or turn the encounter rate down to nothing. They're either so stupid they missed that VERY OBVIOUS option in settings, or they're just complaining because "I might be playing The Rape Game but I'm not
PROBLEMATIC about it!" kek
No. 2371558
>>2371413>Whitney style LI in Stardew ValleyKEK what the actual fuck, they picked the most rapiest LI whose entire personality is being
abusive and complain that he's a rapist? I haven't touched DOL in years and back then it was fairly underground, I'm genuinely shocked to see the state of its fandom today holy shit
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I fucking hate this tif's labru comics with their ugly kid
No. 2371577
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>>2371568Samefag. Seriously, who the fuck does this appeal to?
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>>2370906Just play fucking animal crossing.
No. 2371601
>>2371468It would be like this:
>Welcome to Constellation Hill!>here is Greylight!>"Hey you idiot, you forgot to bring a shovel">"You're so weird, why do you have to wear clothes like those?">"hey crazy girl, stop walking around this plot of land, it's mine">"I have a girlfriend already, I'm not interested in a boring girl like you">"I bet you like to talk to the other guys during parties, you must have lots of free time">"Haha! I locked you in a pigsty with pigs because you're a pig!">"you're stuck in a fence in my plot of land? Tough luck!"I guess? Idk, he would sound even more like a school bully from a retarded cartoon.
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>>2371601God it's like I'm in the pinterest comment section
>>2371609Isn't Gary Oak already a generic tsundere?
No. 2371618
>>2371615>Actually good DoL fanartI'm saving the fuck out of this, thanks
nonnie mwah mwah
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>>2371618gelbooru had some nice stuff
No. 2371641
>>2371413Every time I wonder how these retards manage to waddle out of weenie hut jrs to The Rape Game and are upset it's The Rape Game. you did this to yourself. This is so retarded it's a rape sim all the characters are rapists you are not only retarded but also not the target audience. What are you doing here and how did you get here?
>>2371476>man I sure wish this rape sim I know is a rape sim had less rape so I could enjoy it!>I AM BEGGING>t. not the target audienceThe absolute state. I feel like a monkey with a typewriter repeating that word over and over again but apparently some people can't seem to get it
No. 2371656
>>2371601Now I kinda want a Whitney SV mod just cause it'd be so stupid.
>>2371581Extremely embarrassing, thank God it didn't happen
No. 2371672
>>2371663Was she going to cure Sangwoo or Bum? Since I did see a fair amount of girls who hated Bum for not being kind enough to Sangwoo or something so that one would make sense to me.
>>2371665I'd assume it's fine because of games like LADS but I don't play a huge amount of otome.
>>2371667Kek, ok now that's new.
No. 2371680
>>2371671 He made a copout version what the fuck? No no no, with a game like DoL there's no way. Why would he want to attract the worst of the worst audience i.e. all the autistic zoomers who want to play an edgy,
problematic game but with all the problemacy and edginess removed? I swear they're their own genre of fans by this point.
No. 2371693
>>2371679KEKKK Nonna plz
>>2371680No, this is just a glimpse into a much worse timeline.
No. 2371994
>>2371948You're forgetting a tiny detail. It's the fact that the basis of the game is that you get raped left and right and that everyone calls you a slut every 5 seconds.
Like I honestly enjoy the retarded Game because of the money autism and retarded outfits but the point of the game is to get raped as many times as possible so you can do -Shockingly- degenerate shit.
No. 2372009
>>2372001oh shit thats awesome, i am going to make a qte uke. Thanks
nonny.
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>>2371999If you play the modded version the clothes are cuter, but not all of them have been adapted yet, there's still quite a lot of stuff to pick though. This is my Stacy account.
No. 2372025
>>2372024It's the "beeeees hikari female mod" you can find it on the dolmods website,
nonnie!
No. 2372026
>>2372025thank you,
nonny. Your stacy looks super cute btw.
No. 2372031
>>2372026Thanks
nonnie, it's tough and the game gets super repetitive but the lore and the wish to get lots of money really makes you want to continue playing.
No. 2372034
>>2371679Fucking kek
>>2371999If anyone is interested there's a general on
>>>/m/128239 for DOL and similar games
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Nonnas who've been in multiple fandoms: which fandoms do you think have the most "I saw Goody Proctor with the devil" energy? As in constantly investigating whether other fans are committing wrongthink, performative moralizing etc. For me ASOIAF/Game of Thrones was one of the worst for this, perhaps surprisingly.
No. 2372176
>>2372159Can't say any of the fandoms I've actively been a part of have had that kind of atmosphere, but many of the ones I've lurked (usually because of this shit) or seen in passing due to sheer popularity seem to have this going on. Strangest to me are the ones who do that for rpgs/games with choices or morality systems, skitzing out whenever they see people making the 'wrong' or 'nasty' choices in their playthroughs, and extrapolating wild things about them as a person from that.
I'm both surprised that the ASOIAF/GOT fandom would be your pick, but also kinda not kek– is it a long-term problem or do you think it's more recent/to do with a shift in audience thanks to the tv adaptations bringing in a different crowd? Or is it just people trying to make up for liking a story with less-palatable/grimdark elements?
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Why the fuck does Bluey have a fandom? i am so confused, even as an ex pegasister. At least MLP was the western equivalent of some shitty shonenshit and had some lore and power level autism. Bluey is just a kid's show about toddlers, voiced by toddlers, for toddlers. Wtf.
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1/2 This was kind of retarded, though if someone wants to headcanon or have her fantasy I can’t fault her
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>>23724732/2 This was retardation x100 (also kek at these people using classic anime and takarazuka as ‘proof’ that they totally understand ~cultural differences~ and butches in Japanese lesbian culture)
No. 2372866
>>2368432That may be a factor, but I offer a less tinfoil-y explanation
>most SJW moralfags are young women>they're most interested in policing their own communities (female spaces, applies to TIFs too lol lmao)>TIMs imitate thisand also
>both believe women are more likely to give in to their demands and do what they want than men>>2368992ikr, if you were online enough to use shitter as a reference for reality (may God help you if you do this), you'd think the entire world is like California or some shit
>>2370725nooooooo, this is different!! they're educating the fascist savages!!!!
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Has anyone had to block a good fic writer because they were annoying? I felt kinda bad because she had pretty good taste but this bitch was pro tranny and typed out the longest rant very reminiscent of that sjw style back on the T site.
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This is the kind of anon that shits on fujos ITT topkek(fujobait)
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>>2373186I mean martha washington is a better-written female character than even by libfems authors, the fact that she's badass, not sexualized, and finds love with an attractive competent man, rather than some neurotic nerd is actually revolutionary to me.
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>>2372513Well you can't quite say that either.
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>>2372309Bluey is so cute though! You can tell that there's a lot of heart put into it (kinda like MLP) and I assume the simple designs are easy for people to make OCs around (also like MLP)
That said I would never want to get involved in a Bluey fan space because there's undoubtedly creepy furries and pedos abound, but as a standalone cartoon it's a nice comfort watch
Anyways some of the OCs are good milk
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>Generic shounen love interest number 12 thousand
>I don't know
>A literal whore from a furfag show
>Optimus Prime's gf is just him but in pink
Do they ever chose actually good characters for these or is it just contrarian for the sake of being contrarian?
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>>2373479Some of us have fujo friends from China - why wouldn't we feel concerned? Stop licking Xi's balls, like a wumao or a paid Russian troll. And perhaps move to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.
https://www.whatsonweibo.com/the-price-of-writing-smut-inside-chinas-crackdown-on-erotic-fiction/>The post came from a user named “Rain Painted on a Sunny Day” (@晴天画的雨), the younger sister of the Haitang author known as “Yunjian” (云间, “Between the Clouds”). On October 16, she revealed that Yunjian had been detained since June 20 and is only allowed visits from her lawyer. The arrest notice she shared cites the charge: “suspected of producing and disseminating pornographic materials for profit” (“传播淫秽物品牟利罪”).>Yunjian, a prominent author on Haitang, has been writing for over a decade, producing tens of millions of words. Her detention not only forces her to forfeit all the royalties earned over the past ten years—now labeled “illicit earnings”—but also means she faces time in prison. While “Rain Painted on a Sunny Day” acknowledged her sister’s “offense” in the post, she explained that the resulting heavy fines have left their family deeply in debt, struggling to make ends meet. After the post went up, many of Yunjian’s readers expressed heartbreak over her situation and began donating to help.>How serious is the “crime” of writing online smut in China? While Yunjian has yet to be tried or sentenced, online discussions suggest she may face severe punishment. Her royalties over the past decade exceed 250,000 yuan ($35,000), potentially classifying her case as a particularly serious offense under Chinese law for “producing and disseminating pornographic materials for profit,” due to its perceived negative impact on youth and potential to corrupt social morals. This could result in fines of one to five times her earnings and likely a prison sentence of over ten years.>Recent cases indicate similar outcomes: on October 17, a Weibo account called @HuaiBeiLiXinWrongfulCase (@淮北李鑫冤案) posted a plea, revealing that author Li Xin (李鑫), who co-wrote the historical fantasy Six Dynasties with Luo Sen (罗森), was detained on the same charge after earning 300,000 yuan ($42,118) in royalties, which led to a ten-year prison sentence. As a similarly prominent author, Yunjian may face even harsher penalties and potentially an even longer prison term.(derailing) No. 2374201
>>2374065I don't know much about transformers, but mel and haru were definitely pushed aside by fujos, mel is either portrayed as a cuck or a shipped with some other woman with whom she barely interacted, and then both are ignored, haru unironically deals with misogyny from both male and female fans who don't understand the central theme of beastars
>>2374178I'm not gonna lie, it was pretty clear that she wasn't a fan of the series turning into shounen slop, she just wanted to wrap it up so she could get back to writing erotica gag manga
No. 2374202
>>2374065Elita-1 either doesn't show up at all, is focused on being her own character with no romance, or is in an incredibly chaste and out-of-focus romance, so it's unsurprising ships involving her don't have a choke-hold on the fandom like megaop does, who are in pretty much everything in the franchise and interact with and fixate on each other all the time kek. I get the frustration of being a fan of a character/ship that's not as popular, but you also gotta be realistic about these things. I haven't seen any bashing of her character either but she's not really on my radar tbh.
I can see how Mel's treatment in the fandom could bother people. Her romance with Jayce wasn't one for the ages, sure, but Jayce and Viktor imo didn't really have
that shippable a dynamic in the show either (but it was also obvious early on that they'd be a core fandom fixation for the usual reasons so eh).
No. 2374204
>>2374194most governments are more lenient with female criminals because female criminals are way less likely to be violent or ideology motivated, which are considered the most dangerous motivations for a crime (I'd argue ideology is not that dangerous but if it bothers the powers that be they consider it as bad as being a psychopath).
a lot of moids have inherent desire for violence for no reason, it's like a defective section in their brain, like bloodsports dogs, they should be culled, I don't believe in rehabiliation for men like that. women very, very rarely have this trait, deep inside everyone knows that but you can't actually say it because it makes moids angry.
No. 2374205
>>2374194I didn't know about this, so I will retract from my comment, however, I do think banning porn artists, specifically men, is a good thing and should be encouraged. I will not back down from that. Most porn artists are male, so gradually, I would be a bit more defensive with this topic. Male coom artists deserves the worst, and I highly support banning them.
>>2374200I never said they never did that, I just know that most governments give less harsher sentences to most women for specific crimes, which is understandable, because women are less likely to be perpetrators. However, they are likely to incriminate women for longer sentences if they fight back against abusers.
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>>2374209I did not even say anything about yaoi, I do not know why that person assumes I am an antifujo, just ironic. I literally don't even like sex in my movies nor do I like porn plastered anywhere, so they are picking the wrong argument with the wrong person. My argument also includes women who draws coomshit for male attention/validation (that one popular artist who downgraded that starts with an S, I forgot how to spell it.)
>>2374211Men also use freedom of speech as an argument for their art, it's not a good one. I am fine with female porn artists specifically because they're less likely to perpetuate sex crimes and are not impulsive, it has nothing to do with freedom of speech for me.
No. 2374214
>>2374209Not sure about both, but one of the authors mentioned here
>>2374198 never wrote underaged sex in her work. Do you know if the other did or not?
No. 2374218
>>2374213>I did not even say anything about yaoi, I do not know why that person assumes I am an antifujo, just ironicProbably has to do with the thread before your comment being about fujoshi, and how fujoshi have been getting arrested in China.
Saying "I hope these sort get arrested" has implication.
No. 2374245
>>2374235Right, but my specific comment was towards the post that said "this includes porn artists/fujoshis", I was only responding about the porn artists part. I responded in the thread to other anons repeatedly that I am not an anti fujo, but I am anti porn art. Most porn art is F/M, and I even said earlier, that most coom artists are men, so obviously, I am going to be defensive that it should be banned. Some other anon called me an anti fujo, even though I said nothing about fujoshis or yaoi. This thread isn't just about fujos, we are not in the fujo discourse thread, it's a fandom thread. I even stated that nobody would give a fuck if some 5'2 woman drew gay men raping each other (I surely wouldn't), because it means nothing compared to men who draw amputees getting raped getting arrested for drawing such vile shit. I was wrong, because I didn't know China was so tedious that they would actually care about women drawing seamless shit, so I admitted that. However, if it were only extreme art that would get jailed, I will gladfully risk female artists like null who advocate for actual pedophilia/rape on women if it meant male coomers could get arrested as well, not fujos.
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>>2374221Then move to China - it's your ideal country. Your brain is all fucked up for wishing harm upon women for doing something that
triggers you even though nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to read or look at art you detest. Women like you are dangerous and the backbone of both the fundie and gendie crazes in the US. Do everything in your might to remove yourself from the genepool - people with your brain structure are a menace to the society and should be selectively outbred.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3293014/chinese-police-target-writers-gay-erotica-prison-terms-and-heavy-finesThis is a fresh article, btw (1 Jan 2025). This shit will never end.
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>>2374239To be honest nonna a decent bit of fandom discourse comes directly from tif/fujo people since the community is so particular about rooting their identity in the fandoms they're in. I don't mind them much, maybe I'm biased because I don't run into them often enough to warrant an extreme opinion on them, but even I can't deny that they seem to have the same impact on fandoms as a cyclone does on a small village.
>>2374274They're less of a skin colour and more of a concept, like when a candle has "dance in the moonlight" scent.
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>>2374453You just know that if fujoshi in the Middle East were more brazen (for example, because they were brought up in the States), there would be at least one fujo honour-killing a week.
This girl here murdered for TikTok vidoes. No women's pastime is safe from moid violence.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8pvw3xxxeo>A man who recently moved his family back to Pakistan from the US has confessed to killing his teenage daughter because he disapproved of her TikTok videos, police have told the BBC.>The father, who has US citizenship, said he found his daughter's posts "objectionable".>In the case of Hira Anwar, who was between 13 and 14 years old, a police spokesman said her family "had an objection to her dressing, lifestyle and social gathering".>The family lived in the US for 25 years and Hira started posting content on TikTok even before her family moved back to Pakistan. No. 2374656
>>2374065Like this is the problem here. These people talk about fucking Ochako and Elita-1 like they were great strongly written influential female characters when the first one is literally just a generic shounen prize and the second is an attempt to sell toys to the girl demographic and then get their panties in a bunch because they're "brushed aside". It's so transparently disingenuous, like at least bring up Arcee who actually did shit (and got trooned out for it KEK).
>>2374081Don't forget that the author literally retconned Ochako and Toga as a yuribait ship because even he couldn't give a shit about ochadeku kekkk.
No. 2374670
>>2374555It's quite sad that you can buy bl in my country but you cant be gay..I dont know why anons are acting this is some new thing that porn is heavily scrutinised outside of the west especially in Asia? Ofcourse female sexuality is more shamed because moids in these countries are scared of women sexual freedom. Fujos are kind of in a grey zone where I'm from (I've had irl fujo friends too albeit most were kpopfags) but it could be that I live in a metropolitan city and not bumfuck rural areas as in this case
>>2374516 there are exceptions to every case but I think the moderate acceptance in my city is because of the boomer moids not knowing what anime even is
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>>2374875>defending moderation on LC in 2025Imagine being even more pathetic than a snivelling redditor.
Weird how the a-logging sperg who wished to punish and imprison women for the crime of DRAWING BAD THINGS isn't banned.
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I legit miss QUALITY and QUALITY-posting in anime. /a/ is so dead.
>>2374886At least contribute content instead of posting like a Sharty retard.
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>>2360259what is it about fandom brain-rot that makes certain young women lose the ability to express their sexuality in a normal way? they clearly find these men attractive, yet they feel the need to feminize them to justify their attraction, it's just fucking retarded
No. 2375017
>>2374988>feel the need to feminize them to justify their attractionI thought this would be girls calling some pretty boy chracter baby girl for the billionth time, but it is so much worse.
>He seems to have become a feminist ally through recovering from porn addictionUgh.
>which is the main way men become feminist allies todayDepressing, I guess they could be allies in the same way religious conservatives restricting porn are "allies"
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>>2360259what is it about fandom brain-rot that makes certain young women lose the ability to express their sexuality in a normal way? they clearly find these men attractive, yet they feel the need to feminize them to justify their attraction, it's just fucking retarded
No. 2375185
>>2375106I think this particular thing is just a dumb joke, nothing serious.
I have seen a lot of women in fandom with moid levels of pornsickness, though it's probably just a competition between virgins to see who is the "kinkiest"
No. 2375194
>>2374656>the second is an attempt to sell toys to the girl demographicI don’t even think it’s that since neither her or Arcee had toys in G1 kek
I think in the case of Elita one it’s just the writers being like “Our main hero needs a girlfriend right? All of them have girlfriends”
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>>2374202>megaop does, who are in pretty much everything in the franchise and interact with and fixate on each other all the time kekMegaop's for nerds
>I haven't seen any bashing of her character either but she's not really on my radar tbh.To be fair I bash her because I don't like there being female transformers period (I like Nickel though, she's cute just don't like that she's a girl robot)
No. 2376020
>>2372465really? that's tame. i'm not american so i didn't read this growing up but i've heard it's baby's first yaoi experience for some.
>thats a person who's shipping preteens/childreni do that too lol. i think first love is cute and i just happen to like a lot of media with child protags. as long as it's kept appropiate i think it's ok. definitely better than bluey manchildren.
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>lads adds a period tracker, guys says nice things to you on your period
>OMFG WOMEN HAVE OUT-GOONED US!!!! THIS IS WORSE THAN LOLI SISTER RAPE SIMULATOR WOMEN ARE THE REAL GOONERS YOU GUYS!!!!11!!
I am so tired of moids calling LADS a gooner game when its not. The guys all dress in boring clothes, you are lucky if you get a cm of abs through their clothes. Men are so fucking insecure i swear, they are throwing mantrums over something as conservative as LADS. If women actually made gooner games like a male Senra Kagura or male Blue Archive moids would commit suicide en masse i swear. They cant take shit, fucking insecure cowards.
No. 2376307
>>2376217Men cannot feel objectified or humiliated from sexualization that enforces heterosexual roles, it is why the female gaze does not exist because female heterosexuality does not dehumanize men, rather it celebrates or empathizes with them. Men feel uncomfortable from yaoi, mpreg, bottom-focused gay art or hyperfeminized Men because these accentuate traditionally female roles, they are offended because of the misogynistic view they have towards the very essence of what it means to be female. As such, male sexuality is inherently misogynistic and dehumanizing towards the object of their affection be it male or female while female sexuality isn't. (femdom isn't a gotcha either because many of femdoms tropes were created or are in service to Men who in the end will always derive sexual pleasure from the act.)
tldr:Women cannot objectify Men in a way that matters without playing into misogyny.
No. 2376339
>>2376307>women cannot objectify men in a way that matters without playing into misogynyLoud and wrong as always, but hey, your yaoi is totally owning the moids, right, male bodies can't possibly be objectified without gay shit involved, sure. I gotta remind you, males are
inherently worthless and defective, we don't gotta remind them of their uselessness because it's obvious at first sight, it is perfectly possible and natural to objectify them as their dicks and balls serve no purpose besides entertainment for the superior sex
No. 2376629
>>2376303Men were being supremely, exceptionally retarded about this. It simply blows my mind. They're so desperate for some gotcha card when LADS tops the mobile sales charts past their loli rape games that they're claiming that the male LIs being considerate of your period and offering nice things to say to comfort you during the time of the month is a "gooning" feature. It genuinely gives out their own pornsickness and lack of empathy when they have to fetishize literally everything about women, these people are the kind of men who wouldn't buy pads for their girlfriend at the store out of embarrassment because they think it's comparable to buying a morbid sex toy.
>>2376458This. Every time I think scrotoids have hit a new low they just keep digging.
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>>2376307the original post was specifically about the demeaning comments toward pregnancy, It's infuriating that you don't even realize how blatantly misogynistic those comments are. it also normalizes troonism
No. 2376692
>>2376303I lose braincells whenever a moid talks about this game.
Of course to them "gooning" is suddenly bad when women do it.
No. 2376812
>>2376643I read a manga about a moid who kidnaps and rapes a female character, where in the male rapist creep's backstory, he gets raped by an ugly bastard woman. People in the comments still were like "hear me out"
Men are disgusting
No. 2376845
>>2375106lol
nonnie I get that they might want to avoid male coomers replying to them but the people who are disagreeing with you make no fucking sense. "It doesn't matter because men do it to" wow how unimaginative. It's like they're saying normal female sexuality is somehow wrong and they have to be the ones "impregnating" fucking weirdos
No. 2376847
>>2375977Most likely kek
>>2376833Yeah.
No. 2376901
>>2376879Arcee was a character of substance who had other merits than being just The Girlfriend and getting mad of her being retconned as a troonbot is a pretty
valid reason to be mad. And yeah, making the
only girl characters pink is also a
valid thing to complain about. Every time I read brainrot takes like this I long for the G1 Transformers fandom of the late 90's that was largely ran by women and not poisoned by the shitty nuTransformers garbage. The series should've died in the 80's.
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>>2376303I even looked it up since I don't play the game and it's just "It's sad that reproductive health is seen as something shameful, we offer free pads here" or "Shall I get you a blanket? Take it easy today"
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>>2376911>And people cry "Gooners" for us liking Zenless Zone Zero and NikkeWhy are men pretending to be offended by this?
No. 2376941
>>2376934Yet again it's a projection thing
>Men have wet dreams>Men get morning wood>BUT PERIODS ARE TOTALLY SEXUALIt'd be one thing if the guys were like "SNIFF SNIFF ARE YOU OVULATING?" but literally nothing like that happens.
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tbh the only real response to seeing moid rage is to just post sexy pics of LADS.
they aren't going to listen to anything you say. getting annoyed at them is only sinking to their level. just post shirtless boys at them. nothing more.
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>>2376954>no male gaze female lingerie but on a manbooo boring. I think some of you need to stop basing your sexuality around whats feminist and makes men mad, and instead just allow yourself to be cringe and free and not let men's opinions live rent free in your head 24/7. Men will cum to literally anything because they are deranged and constantly seek new sources of dopamine. Men literally coom to floor tiles. Why the fuck does it matter if your choice of coom makes men mad? literally everything women enjoys makes men mad. 50 shades of grey made men man and its a cringe pickme maledom fantasy written by a fat boomer pickme. Twilight made men mad even if it has canon pedophilia and the guys arent even that hot. Anything women enjoy will make men mad regardless of how feminist it is because they are joy vampires and they see women as inferior and want to makes us miserable. They will coom to maledom daddydom bullshit made for men then do an 180 and act like they are opressed and find 50 shades of grey so offensive and repulsive and
abusive. If you worry about your sexual preferences alligning with what men find unappealing, then you are no different from pickmes who want to be sexy bimbo sluts who choke on cock. You are still centering your own sexuality around what men think. Men just exist to be contrarian because they never mentally evolve past the mental age of toddlers, dont be like them. Allow yourself to live and have your sexuality detached from men's opinions.
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I hate fake husbandofags. You’re going to poison yourself on that irony.
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Men are so jealous of LADS it's unreal
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>>2377009I think they are just angry women finally have something for them and dont have to rely on shit made for men by men. I played LADS and as a waifugacha player i found it underwhelming, not gonna lie. It doesnt come close to waifushit like Blue Archive, Nikke or Girls Frontline or the level of sexualization and parasocial relationships of waifu-games. They are really just getting offended because women are enjoying their sexuality in a way that doesnt revolve around them. Its that simple. My waifu in my gachashit tells me she loves me all the time and i am married to my girls frontline waifu(something you cant do on LADS), so they either dont play gachas or are genuinely just trying really hard to play the
victim and pretend men are being opressed.
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So what I learned today is, just like any other word, males forgot actual the definition of the term "gooning" and are using it to describe anything that has to do with genitalia at all.
>the woman's reproductive system naturally undergoing the process known as the menstrual cycle, in which her uterus will shed its wall lining and replace it with a new layer for the purpose of self-clensing from the inside. The woman herself has no control over this process.
>OMFG GUYZ SHES-SHES FUCKIN-SHES FUCKIN GOONING
this is why males get worse grades than women in school. They're not "systematically oppressed" by teachers, they're just naturally that retarded.
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I don’t remember people getting up in arms about the anime girl colon cancer app being a gooning app. There’s probably a better argument for it than the period tracker in LADS.
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>>2376994Men and troons rediscover the wheel every time they exit their goon caves it's actually impressive. Ask a toddler where your face's gone after its been hidden from view and you can acquire a similar reaction
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It's funny that
>>2376307 talking about anything 'enforcing' heterosexual roles can't truly sexualize men and the only option is just using the biological oppression women face unto men, but something like LADs, which frames men in an actually attractive light without any form of irony, does indeed make tons of men and troons seethe, It gives weight to my theory that ugly degenerates are just disgusted by natural beauty and goodness and seek to subvert it
No. 2377124
>>2377105Women don't even have to be ugly to want to be femdom. Just because it's not empathetic good and sweet doesn't mean an attractive woman wouldn't want to make a guy her bitch
if they don't just want to do it because they're still thinking about owning da males/contrarian instead of being authentically into it. That anon was just being retarded and not realizing men aren't robots with a perfect defense that can never be shaken by a woman. Women can be threatening, women can knock some sense into a male's head, etc.
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>>2377018For some reason, some otaku/gamer moids from my country started to rant about how women stole anime/videogame from them. I think they simply stole some talking points from americans because these things weren't treated like something "not cool" in here (or maybe they are just late zoomers moids who never experienced these things and now want to rewrite history).
Animes like Saint Seiya, Shurato and Dragon Ball were extremely popular and got treated just like every other cartoon; when internet access became more widely available, groups were filled with otaku girls.
Same for videogames, It was just something not everyone could afford, so having a SNES or Mega Drive made you popular. Every kid, including girls, wanted one because guess what, It was another fun thing that any kid loved.
No. 2377183
>>2377176>For some reason, some otaku/gamer moids from my country started to rant about how women stole anime/videogame from them.>>2377174>Tbh was the main demographic of Astro Boy really adult Japanese men coming off of a war?(Was anime even a male thing from the start)
I'm sorry, I'm sleep deprived.
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>>2377183>Was anime even a male thing from the startliterally every demographic had its own separate magazines, but shounen vastly outsold the others, even though it was made for teenage boys, adult men and women and girls kept buying shounen magazines and yet shounen magazines still never pandered any particular demographics; the stories were written for teenage boys. Despite this, yet their popularity continues to grow and while shoujo doesn't reach the vast global market that shounen does, conventional love stories tend to perform significantly better than seinen and josei. It’s hard to say why adventure and romance stories aimed at teenagers resonate more than other genres, but they do
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>>2377105reminds me of korean incels seething about attractive men getting sex and portraying themselves as poor
victims No. 2377249
>>2377221>Too DominantGod this is so true. I actually really like romance media but 99% of het stories have male characters who are way too fucking dominant and not to my tastes at all. I hate maledom so much. I play and enjoy otomege in ENG and JPN and read romance novels occasionally and there are very very
very few characters that are to my taste. Doujin games fare better but pickings are still slim. When it comes to romance novels, that number is basically zero and I have to turn to absolutely horrible self-published books just to get a whiff of what I'm looking for. I refuse to read modern webtoons and manhwa so I have no idea how the situation is with that.
I wish I was into retarded Booktok 40000 year old alpha millionaire bullshit because those types are absolutely drowning in content.
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Speaking of LADS, I cannot understand why people are still arguing about incest. This LI and MC aren't even related, they were adopted by the same woman. Big fucking deal.
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>>2374201>beastarsthe author is the same women who admitted to this
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>>2377273nta but I've actually read sanda, and just like beastars, that whole manga is also about sex and an allegory for the relations between men and women, specifically about male bodies and how they transform and change. It's something I've often thought about myself and considering that paru talked about how her nephews grew so tall and turned into men in just a few years, she's probably had similar thoughts
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>>2370695Women have been interested in cutsey little witches and comfy environments for forever by this point.Don’t let the trannies take over what we own
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>>2377290Sanda also clearly channels a lot of anxieties about maturing as a woman and losing your youth, the trait that makes you most valuable. There's an emphasis placed on how society values youth, and even plastic surgery vs allowing yourself to age.
Paru is a weirdo pervert but she has some very emotionally honest manga about female experiences. Drip Drip/Bota Bota is probably her most "feminist" work. I love her work, she's probably my favorite mangaka.
No. 2377396
>>2377249I'm actually kind of surprised to hear LADS is mostly maledom, I was expecting at least one submissive guy. I like maledom myself but I find a lot of the content lacking. This may be because I'm not a self inserter but a lot of stories are about money or positions of power. I always love cool storyline but there's rarely ever that
>i'm an x with money and now i can fuck you whenever put the cuffs onwould I be wrong if I said it's this kind of thing that makes people hate tropes all on their own? not that I mind it since even crap like 50 shades makes men seethe and I don't subscribe to the idea of porn for women needing to be super politically correct but I think an overall increase of quality would do wonders. We just got a period tracker in LADS but we can do much more.
No. 2377490
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>>2376994I have not played LADS since I am not into otome stuff, but I came across this video on YouTube, and it is genuinely bizarre to see so many men getting this pressed about it. Is the amount of goon in LADS even remotely comparable to the kind of slop men get off to? From what I have seen of the game, the male characters are treated pretty "respectfully". Even the sexy scenes are super tame. Meanwhile, just watching a two-second clip of any Hoyoslop makes me feel uncomfortable with the sheer amount of jiggle physics.
Another thing that annoys me is how nice female gamers are to men. In the comment section of the same video, otome players are coddling moids with their "oh um ackshually, it is not us that hate female sexualization, it is the other women!!1". I only play HSR, and male gamers absolutely hate women. They are not content with getting everything on a silver platter—they want female players to get absolutely nothing, not even scraps. So it is just sad seeing women go out of their way to stroke the egos of scrotes.
No. 2377505
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>>2377490>said no woman everYeah, but because moids say it whenever they get the chance.
No. 2377506
I'm glad for the anons and other women who enjoy and find the LADS lads attractive and feel catered to by the game, but man can I not relate kek. Guess it goes to show that there isn't a 'one size fits all' when it comes to this stuff.
>>2377490the low-tier men who spaz out over women expressing their sexuality (be it just sexual interest in something, a fetish, or openly consuming pornographic material eg a smutty book) are doing so because they cannot conceptualise the idea that women are capable of basal desires and habits like they are. As far as they're concerned, it's aberrant behaviour or, at the very least, some new phenomena (it isn't, though the more open expression of this outside of private female spaces could be considered more recent due to social changes in the last 100 years or so, but that's beyond these moids' scope). That's why they act like they've been slapped with a fish when they stumble upon a woman engaging in things that, in their minds, only men do.
They also are so lost in their own coom habits that they cannot see that one horny game is not 1:1 to another horny game, they see it all as being on the same level despite one being blatantly more degenerate than the other to anyone who hasn't fried their brain (or, if it is a tamer game that's not supposed to
only be about coom for men, why the general audience that includes women that it's ostensibly for might not like one-sided fanservice eg genshin)
No. 2377539
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Just got a comment on my fic (paraphrased): 'This made me realize I'm trans! Thank you for cracking my egg.'
No. 2377566
>>2377556While a mangaka is the type more likely to mean it in a weird way, your way of thinking is a bit weird.
It's not particularly strange to think growth in anything can be both beautiful and creepy/sad. It's just "things change, and it makes me feel feelings."
No. 2377715
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>>2377358Uh, most of them? I've played almost every title released in ENG since the Vita era plus a few more in Japanese. There's more or less one LI per game that is a bit more timid but even then a lot of times the writers will throw in some retarded scene to remind the player that man = dominant and woman = submissive. Plus what
>>2377522 said but that really only applies to Otomate titles.
No. 2377824
>>2377715I mean don't play games like Sympathy fuckign Kiss? Go play Code Realize or Nightshade or Olympia Soiree
Also a lot of the time it's not about being dominant. It's literally true that men are more emotional and struggle to control their base desires. They're not like us
No. 2377834
>>2377768I feel like it just makes sense to turn it into a period tracker, if he's already going to remind you stuff, it may as well remind you when are you going to get your period.
Like, it doesn't even say something like
>You're ovulating!>You're more likely to conceive if you fuck during these days!It's just
>hey, you're getting close to your period, did you make the needed preparations?That's it. So everyone needs to relax. Is it parasocial as fuck? Yes, that's the point of otome games, but the game also has other things like study and work timers and workout timers too for you to focus while doing your daily activities, it also has reminders for stuff like alarms to make you go to sleep and a calender so you don't forget stuff while playing.
I honestly think it's nice, it makes the game feel less like a time sink and more like something that could help you focus a bit if you want to.
No. 2377838
>>2377824I've already played those titles kek. Did you not see the part where I said I love otome games and have played almost every single ENG release??
I don't care if you think that moids need to act up in games, I like what I like and I want more cute blushy submissive moe LIs to balance out the 900 generic dark haired macho men who are emotionally constipated and want the MC to cook for him
No. 2377864
>>2377842The point of otome games
is the parasocial aspect. Plus some of us are actually lonely and can't just go out to get people to care about us.
No. 2377936
File: 1738514796591.mp4 (2.78 MB, 854x480, QkstNtZ.mp4)
why has english voice acting gotten so much worse?
No. 2377958
>>2377539Lmao
nonnie look at it from the bright side. You made an idiot decide to get herself spayed and removed from the gene pool at least
No. 2378037
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>>2377786>I just want a genki retard that has energy. I know you think he's ugly and probably couldn't handle Warfame gameplay but Amir, lol.
>>2378031They're fictional 3D husbandos though.
No. 2378050
>>2378033>>2378035Pretty sure it's just the shallow shilling of a prompt that isn't particularly unique, using a popular game by stripping it down to a single characteristic.
"Cute Witch finding cat in a pretty location" is not the most… interesting of ideas.
No. 2378056
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>>2378041He's definately energetic and retarded though.
>>2378047Have you checked out the new update? I thought the chat/romance stuff was cute and pretty decent. But I'm biased.
And I'm just saying fast paced 3rd person shooters would probably be overwhelming to anybody who only plays otome games.
No. 2378063
>>2378037keeeeek thanks
nonny but he's ugly as sin and looks like fag. Sorry but i am not the type of husbandofag that can separate looks from personality. It needs to come in a package.
No. 2378079
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>>2378071Don't worry, moids get sexy booba eye candy at least!
No. 2378147
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>I've never been happier
These people always have a huge cocktail of mental illnesses on their about pages (whether they're legit or not is a gamble though)
No. 2378308
>>2378129>>2378157ayrt, thanks for the advice nonnies. I do block and mute words but something always inevitably slips through. Might try to lobotomize myself with other media and see if I stop giving a fuck about the ship I was talking about.
>>2378169This advice is also solid but I think it's too late for me kek, I'm already brainrotted beyond saving.
No. 2378344
>>2377369he's more retarded than that, I 100% promise you the logic is menstruation = vagina = sexual
>>2377539PLEASE tell me what the fic was about kek
>>2378112if you drop the ship name, I will support you unequivocally and will gossip about how annoying people on the internet are if you do.
this is also how I feel about caitvi No. 2378451
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Tbh I find it immensely satisfying seeing jealous moids get their things ruined by the icky girls. I prefer anything that comes from a “gooner” woman fan since it’s almost always made out of love for the actual source material.
No. 2378473
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The love rival in mirai nikki is a guy though…I guess Akise kun is getting force straighted
No. 2378481
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I just saw fanart of some faggot shipping that Shelley Duvall bitch from Mouthwashing with Ellen from 'I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream'. I can't even tell if they were serious, or doing a joke by shipping two rape victims from two media zoomers are into as a trend. It got on my nerves and it's not even important. Later, anons.
No. 2378492
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>>2378487Ojisan dick worshipper
No. 2378500
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>>2378499>featuring a walled moidHey, Slade's a very sexy old man.
No. 2378522
>>2378518I think they're talking about the kimono cult leader girl who made out with Yuuki to fuck with him and Yuno and add fanservice
She doesn't have any romantic feelings for him though.
No. 2378551
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>>2378542I'm glad I have an ally who also wants to fuck Slade.
>I want to bite himBased.
No. 2378656
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>>2378646keep telling yourself that
(fujo derail) No. 2378659
>>2378155they always come off as really insecure too like they actually do care about le cringe culture or whatever
>>2378147why do i have the feeling this person draws gross sparkledog porn
No. 2378663
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>>2378616>>2378656Damn you didn't even wait to screenshot it lmao, is nightwing your husbando or something kek
No. 2378671
>>2378658>Am I not allowed to think bisexuality is sexy?lol
>>2378663I don't care about the character, but I dislike when fujos pair attractive young men with hyper-masculinized older men or monsters, just because they have crippling porn addictions
No. 2378692
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>>2378678What if he goes back to the past, would it be aight then
>>2378680>Wolverine was canonically in a bisexual throuple at some pointI think it's that Jean just is dating both of them at the same time (and I guess they're chill with being her harem members), a lot of people say Jean is a fujo though so maybe she forces them to fuck each other.
No. 2378696
>>2378676Tbh I just find it funny that they got so pissed off that they immediately took a screenshot and posted it to the antifujo thread, and then went back to start a fight, including posting tranny pics they had on ready.
Living to seethe.
No. 2378698
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>>2378663Is she for real right now? I hope for her sake she's just baiting, this is pathetic.
(derailing) No. 2378699
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>>2378637the dynamic is hot and sexy and has been around for decades, is this really the first time you've seen a ship like this?
No. 2378713
>>2378699seek help
>>2378706she literally posted cutesy ship art of an adult man and child, that makes them a pedo
No. 2378725
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>>2378713Slade's a pedophile canonically, there's nothing wrong with sticking to canon.
>>2378714To be fair I don't even think a lot of these people are yumes, they're just weird tradthot types who immediately think of STDs when they see two guys.
No. 2378744
>>2378732I was about to say Ron Swanson would never but then I remembered the girlfriend.
She would use this site kek.
No. 2378746
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>>2378739>DickstrokeHoly shit is that actually what the ship is called? God bless
No. 2378754
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>>2378676We were doing so well coming together and shitting on moids for being retarded about LaDS now we're back to the weekly scheduled yumefujo autism war
No. 2378756
>>2378746Some people call it sladick, but those people are not to be heard.
Dickstroke is the thinking woman's choice for the ship name.
>>2378747It's very clearly still there (look at the upper panel), you just can't see it as well because he's kissing her.
No. 2378775
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I would be less bothered about fujo posts if it wasn't just the ultra feminized ukes with an older dominant man and instead had two hot young guys, either way I sincerely hope fujo nonnie's don't get worse(fujo sperging outside of containment)
No. 2378792
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>>2378775I make amends that yaoi is just a genre and that generalizing all fujos into it being into older dominant man x feminized uke is like generalizing all shounenfags into being powerscaling and generalizing himes into being moeblob lolicons because a majority of the demographic + content happens to be that
No. 2378799
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>>2378775>if it wasn't just the ultra feminized ukesWhich character are you even talking about? Dick isn't ultra feminized at all kek.
No. 2378812
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>>2378804You're exaggerating it though, you're acting like most of it is like pic.
>>2378808Nigga we on anti troon site right now.
No. 2378814
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>>2378804Not the case any more old timer.
No. 2378816
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>>2378807I really want to answer her answer in good faith but tfw its 99.9% just bait and she wont listen to anything I say because she already has an anti-fujo rhetoric in her head. wallahi i need to go outside and touch grass
No. 2378817
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>>2378810It's very iconic.
No. 2378826
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>>2378812>>2378814there are the current popular BL's on bato, so judge for yourself
No. 2378856
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>>2378840Watch any shounen with a black hair protagonist.
No. 2378859
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>>2378841not implying that its a womanly butt, it just looks uncannily round. like picrel spoilered for 3dpd. i laughed my ass off and he probably absorbed it into the girth of his glutes
No. 2378881
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>>2378800I don't wanna shit on them but at this point I think self shippers are literally demonic in the way that they can't behave like the rest of the class and utterly ruin discussions by subtly self inserting or being in denial about it. I only want to hear from pureblooded detached voyeurs from now on
No. 2378882
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>>2378860It's extremely rare for women to actually molest children anyway though, so what does it matter.
>>2378863Fair point.
>>2378866Unless they have the shadow bangs+no eyes, every self insert protagonist could pass as an uke.
No. 2378885
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can we please change the discussion now?
No. 2378896
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>>2378866Right? Down to the personalities, being too shy to hold hands and acting tsundere. If it was bl they'd be "basically women".
No. 2378897
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>>2378885I want more evil mastermind female villains but not like this. not like this…
No. 2378905
>>2378896Not even into femdom or pegging but I'd peg Kazuma honestly, dude's asking for it.
>>2378902No it's gay vampires.
No. 2378910
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>>2378885I had my fun so I agree. Let me help you. It's funny because this tranny had a billion racist (and misogynistic, surprise!) tweets from not even 6 years ago
No. 2378912
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I will not respond to bait. I will not respond to bait. I will love thy enemies and thy neighbors even if they call me pick me porn brained coomers bisluts
No. 2378914
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>>2378903Actually, I have "the right" to do whatever I want on the internet. Murrica, baby.
No. 2378918
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>>2378908There's steroids in their water supply
No. 2378919
>>2378913we need a fangirl jesus to die for our sins so we'll be free from the moralfaggery that plagues our conscience
>>2378916>malicious and violent which is funagreed, women can be really fucking evil outright and its a shame media doesnt tap on that. though the concept of a tranny that forces kids into irreversible surgeries and making a troon play the character is funny so Ill let it slide for that alone
No. 2378934
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>Eroge that look like BL
No. 2378938
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>>2378914ot but that might be coming to an end; project 25's goals are getting implemented, there's a specific focus on anything 'queer,' i.e., gay, and so the production of any form of porn,erotica and fan fiction might become illegal
No. 2378946
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>>2378935all the more funnier it comes from scroteshit/eroge. seriously why do so many moid media have such effeminate protagonists
No. 2378947
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>yume vs fujo in the fandom discourse thread instead of their main infighting thread
No. 2378972
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>>2378966What about characters like Riki who were drawn by women but in games/anime for men
No. 2378983
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>They just want to enjoy their stuff in peace
Bullshit.
No. 2378992
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>>2378983I have no words.
No. 2378996
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>>2378983>They just want to enjoy their stuff in peaceand then they shill memes like picrel when a woman in media doesnt look like a big titty bimbo blow up doll and cry about the woke ruining women
No. 2379026
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I hate how the second they stopped being able to try and shame women into trooning out they immediately went to 'IT'S A PIPELINE ALL ALONG HAHAHA'
Fuck off dude I'm never cutting my tits off no matter how much you want me to.
No. 2379028
>>2379012They do, and it feels like it's maliciously done. They can't simply make a normal looking female character that women would like to play as, she has to look ugly so it creates buzz and
triggers incels to get women attacked.
That being said, those female characters still manage to look better than the average western male character.
No. 2379030
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>>2379012>>2379015It's not that they're ugly, it's that they're hyper-realistic and unstylized. The issue is that western game developers are obsessed with graphic cards to their own detriment
No. 2379033
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>>2379027KEKK is this really what moids watch? Why is her ass hanging out?
No. 2379037
>>2379026and these tards will chimp out on regular women enjoying their interests because they didnt fall for the gender cult so they moralfag them about being "gross fetishizers" despite being a turbo fetishizer at the end of the day who became so addicted to porn they trooned out and made it their entire identity.
>>2379027incredibly retarded those 100 girlfriends shouldve been torturing him and beating him with sticks for entertainment instead
No. 2379041
>>2379037>those 100 girlfriends shouldve been torturing him and beating him with sticks for entertainmentI mean they probably already have or will have a sadist girlfriend.
Goddamn though can you imagine the deep controversy and rage this would cause it was a girl with 100 boyfriends instead.
No. 2379042
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>>2379021>>2379027Rentarou is pure sexo
No. 2379044
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>>2379033There's 100 girlfriends, iirc each one is just a gimmick and she's the fanservice one.
No. 2379054
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>>2379041its a harem anime so its probably going to be some retarded slapstick tsundere who beats up the protagonist for being a HENTAI!!!
No. 2379060
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>>2379045>>2379050Same scene in the manga. The illustrator is a woman, which is why he's so sexy. He got wet during a water gun fight.
No. 2379062
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>>2378977>>2378980there are a billion unfathomably retarded meta posts and long ass podcast episodes so here is one of my faves: on why tom riddle didn't kill his father just bc he's not literally shown on page doing so. this is despite two separate witnesses seeing him and riddle saying he did it.
none if that matters bc retardo thinks tom (a literal wizard and a ruthless killer) can't have done it bc he wouldn't have wanted to miss his train.
of course, the most surface level doylist analysis coudl have told you this is wrong because jkr clearly intends for the reader to infer that he did it, and because it's consistent with his character and motivation. but you know, trains.
No. 2379067
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>>2379054>hentaiRentarou is chaste and waiting until marriage
No. 2379069
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>>2379068I don't know nonna, outside of capeshit there's like zero attractive guys in cartoons.
Bitches always look like the guy from Johnny Test when they try and make them attractive meanwhile in anime even a self insert harem protagonist is extremely attractive.
No. 2379083
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>>2379078Jeremy from Phineas and Ferb was also similar, just a dumb teenage boy portrayed normally
No. 2379088
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>>2379026She unironically looked way happier as a fujo even in this TIF art
No. 2379109
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>>2379069>outside of capeshit there's like zero attractive guys in cartoonsTrue, though I remember a lot of scenes in Samurai Jack where he ends up half naked
No. 2379113
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>>2379084she writes a lot about tom but with such enormous misunderstanding of his character that i hesitate to call her a fan.
For examples she insist he was suicidal and wnated the horcruxes to be found, and his final death was suicide - completely missing the fact that his horcrux protections fail because of his own hubris, and because the heroes need a way to defeat him.
i mean if you take away tom's all-consuming fear of death, hos hubris and his abandonment issues you're taking away about 95% of his personality.
tbh i'm pretty sure she's just trying to farm controversy by going completely against usual character interpretations.
>>2379086right, and usually even their watsnonian analysis barely qualifies as such. like the voldy post would be easy ti disprove evn in purely watsnonian terms (eg he doesn't have to take the train).
usually it's just an excuse to present their ctackpot theories as fact, or to pretend their headcanons about their faves are totes balid even though they author didn't see them that way.
also they can't understand anything the text doesn't state outright but they call it analysis lol
No. 2379145
>>2379128she wrote some fic for it but she mostly writes him with some rando (alphard black) who got one mention and no lines in canon, so it's an OC with the numbers filed off.
i hate tomarry, most if the time it's ooc time travel/au garbage. i've seen one (1) fic do it while keeping them somewhat in character and it was still uninteresting (i just dgaf about harry as a character).
I guess it fits with the current fandom trends of just throwing canon out the window but still, I don't understand while it's got such a chokehold on the fandom.
hate hate hate how it took over most of voldy content. it's virtually impossible to find new fic/art about him without that stupid pairing attached
No. 2379154
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thoughts?
No. 2379189
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Moids are so dramatic.
No. 2379220
>>2379113oh I know her type– I have to deal with a couple similar 'fans' for some of my favourite characters kek who treat them more like a weird generic woobification vehicle and projector screen than anything else, ignoring 95% of the character in favour of the scant aspects that do appeal to them and their delusional headcanons masquerading as fact and meta/theory. Is she more fixated on the idea of Tom Riddle the dark academia moodboard student, or Voldemort in general? I'm guessing the former since she keeps referring to him as 'Tom Riddle' while talking about parts of the story where he's very much Voldemort (an identity he crafted, rather than one imposed upon him even). So much is being assumed here of the character's internal thoughts and goals, which is fine and all, part of the fun of fandom nonsense of course, but you can't present it or your empathetic shower thoughts about a character's situation as 100% canon and true lmao.
>pretty sure she's just trying to farm controversy by going completely against usual character interpretationsIt's possible, but also wouldn't surprise me if she's completely genuine about it– haven't really looked at HP stuff since I was a teen, but even back then the fandom attitude supported reaches and 'reinterpretations' like this so who knows
>can't understand anything the text doesn't state outright but they call it analysis lolPeople who can't comprehend inference, figurative language/symbolism, or the concept that not every minute detail needs to be included in a piece of fiction are always such pains in fandom spaces, but at least they sometimes provide entertaining schizo posts kek
No. 2379278
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>>2379220>So much is being assumed here of the character's internal thoughts and goals, which is fine and all, part of the fun of fandom nonsense of course, but you can't present it or your empathetic shower thoughts about a character's situation as 100% canon and true lmao.yup exactly. making up your own bullshit about your blorbo is one thing (
i know the mcgonagall that lives in my head has very little to do with what jkr intended for her ) but it's ridiculous to change everything about a character's traits and motivations and then pretend it's serious character analysis supported by canon.
>why tom and not voldemort?she made up a shitload of convoluted bullshit about why voldemort is just one of tom's personae. or something. picrel is inly a small sample of her harry potter posts
also the "watsonian analysis" is to simply declare whatever elents of canon contradict her theories to be fake. i. e. the pensieve memories are doctored, the version of tom in the diary is lying etc.
not doing doylist analysis means the retard completely misses the point that the pensieve and diary are simply framing devices so that jk could write extended flashbacks.
she's so wrong and so self-righteous about it beung cutting-edge literary analysis, it's actually entertaining
No. 2379360
>>2378698It's par for the course for selfshippers. See their husbando defiled by a gay ship, start sperging about how fujos are rape-addicted pedotroons who want to get their husbando (who's totally minor coded btw!!! except in selfship scenarios) pozzed by gonorrheAIDS. Happens like clockwork.
>>2378800To be for real the "himes" trying to force the fujos vs himes war are literally obsessed selfshippers who just ship f/f instead of m/f. That's why they take it so personally that their coomwaifuship has only 3000 fics on AO3 while the popular FOTM m/m ship has 3002.
No. 2379368
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>>2378826what the fuck is THAT
>>2379081get this nona a true
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>>2379189Meanwhile trannies… it's funny how virtual boys tracking your cycle makes them mald.
No. 2379404
>>2379378Why the fuck is Niche Gamer even covering this? Who's next? IGN? Giant Bomb?
They act as if it's a "babe, get ready to plug in your vibrator—it's time to get freak-aayyyyy for me, you 3D husbando".
Never even played the game but this is ridiculous.
No. 2379616
>>2379226Scrotes genuinely believe that periods are a sexual awakening. They really are just
that fucking lobotomised.