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No. 2426717

Discuss the happenings, drama, cringe, etc. of Neocities, personal sites, webrings, and other small communities, and how they used to be in the past.

Other possible topics of discussion:
>personal sites vs social media profiles
>creating shrines and fanlistings
>joining webrings and cliques
>how socializing on the internet has changed


Previous threads
thread #4: >>>/ot/2139249
thread #3: >>>/ot/1914925
thread #2: >>>/ot/1520815
thread #1: >>>/ot/1320546

Search for personal/non-comercial sites:
https://search.marginalia.nu/
https://wiby.me/
https://www.oldavista.com/
https://anilinks.neocities.org/

HTML/Web help:
https://www.w3schools.com/
https://htmldog.com/
https://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/index.html
https://tinytools.directory/
https://brackets.io/

No. 2426822

i dont' like that the threadpic is about trannies. we have multiple tranny hate and male hate containment threads ; can we have some threads that exist without making us think about them?

No. 2426838

>>2426822
just hide the picture if you yourself don't like it so much. this is the "old web" thread, you should know by now you're going to encounter things online you don't like. trannys are everywhere, including neocities and they're louder about it than that picture will ever be. it's literally a point of discussion in every thread. are you new? it's a comic of a cute cat, you don't have to read it or even look at it, no ones making you think about anything. it's not like the threads you mentioned are meant to be containment threads: men are not welcome here

No. 2426858

>>2426822
then talk about something else related to oldweb in this thread? it's the threadpic because its a meme someone made in the last thread, it isn't that deep

No. 2426889

>>2426822
I'm sad the old thread filled up while I was asleep because I made a little drawing for the new one's treadpic and was excited to make it kek
(I made the last thread, so I had hopes I could create this one roo)

No. 2426890

>>2426889
Post it and we can make it the threadpic for the next thread, it's not like this is the last thread ever

No. 2426905

>>2426890
It's gonna take about half a year for this one to fill up kek.

No. 2426922

>>2426838
>>2426858
continue talking 24/7 and being obsessed with what you "hate" yeah that's perfect(derailing)

No. 2426946

>>2426922
anon i understand you're not that bright but you are literally the one trying to continue the discussion. you replied to someone asking you to "talk about something else" and you're resorting to making baseless assumptions and trying to derail the thread further because you seem to be hurt that we don’t cater to trannies feelings here. i don't know why you assume the posts you're replying to indicate that someone is obsessed with trannies 24/7. hide the thread and move on. you obviously didn’t spend any time in the previous threads. lurk more and get a grip, please

No. 2426971

Would I get banned on neocities for some of my hot takes? I'm neither radical nor liberal but my takes might get me into hot water either way.

No. 2426981

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>>2426971
neocities doesn’t ban people for talking about whatever they want. provided you aren’t spamming the site (like divcel) or directly threatening people, you should be fine.

No. 2427077

>>2426971
Dont do anything illegal under US law and turn off your neocities comments + guestbook and you should be golden. most neocities users dont look at sites beyond the index anyways

No. 2427219

>>2426971
There's multiple "offensive" sites hosted on NC, as long as it isn't doxxing someone or against the US law they won't do anything. Most users won't either because text-heavy sites are ignored in favor for aesthetics, but I suggest turning off comments like >>2427077 suggested anyway.

No. 2427253

>>2426889
You should post the image regardless so someone else can take note of it in the future; if you're unavailable again when the thread fills someone else can use the picture. I would hate for your efforts to go to waste after all

No. 2427508

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>>2426971
The only site I know of that got removed for being offensive was a site that just spammed the n word over and over. So don't do anything troll like that and you'll be fine. It's possible that you may eventually get shadowbanned if enough people block you, but that's pretty unlikely. Most neocities users are teens that can't read anyway. If you're shadowbanned, you can still post but your site won't show up in the global activity feed and you can't comment on strangers' profiles

No. 2427740

any good small homepage style sites with a functioning web builder? i am a visual thinker and don't want to update code every time i want to add a cute picture. god i miss geocities.

No. 2427795

>>2427740
The SeaMonkey web browser has a built-in website editor similar to MS Word, but it doesn't have any CSS styling features built into it. So it's great if you want to go for an authentic 90s website look, but it's kind of horrible for everything else.
Alternatively, there's phcode.io (successor to brackets.io) which is basically an open source version of Adobe Dreamweaver. It won't let you drag and drop images onto your webpage, but it should hopefully making coding websites less painful.

No. 2427963


No. 2428184

>>2426691
>Unrelated, but has anyone else had issues with neocities' global activity feed? For some reason, my site will sometimes not show up when I update it, or it will appear hours later. I'm not shadowbanned or anything, so I don't know what the issue is.
Global feed will only show your website if more than 24 hours have passed since the last update, and I noticed that isn't synced with the profile feed that follows a similar rule. Maybe it's actually more than 24 hours for the global feed, but I'm not 100% sure.
Speaking of shadowbans, I noticed I'm partially shadowbanned, I can't comment of profiles of people that don't follow me, but global feed shows my updates. The last time I checked I was blocked by around 30 something sites.

No. 2428307

>>2428184
What'd you do to get blocked by so many? I'm guessing being anti troon?

No. 2428340

>>2428184
How can check how many people blocked you?

No. 2428575

>>2428184
I know about the 24 hr wait. There will be several days or even weeks between updates and my site won't show up in the global feed until a few hours later. It's weird because it'll eventually pop up where it should be chronologically in the feed, it just won't be there initially. It's not that big of a deal, just kind of weird

No. 2428954

>>2428307
I've been on neocities for a while coupled with that.

>>2428340
I'm not sure if there's an easier way of checking but for example I would open page 400 of the most followed sites while logged into my account and then I'd open the same page on a private browser tab where I'm not logged in. Then I would take a look at what the first site is on the page where I'm logged in, and I'd try to find that site on the page where I'm not logged in. For example if that page is now on spot 10 that means 9 pages blocked you because when someone blocks you their page is not visible in the browse feature of neocities. That way you can figure out the number of sites that blocked you, but not exactly which ones. To figure out which sites exactly you'd have to do a lot of cross referencing.
I did this about six months ago so I don't know if Kyle changed anything with how algorithms work since then.

>>2428575
I haven't been keeping track of Kyles changes but what I can tell you is that before he changed how global activity works, the feed always had some randomness to it. If you refreshed it you would get a different pick of sites that updated recently from the pool of recently updated sites. After the update I thought he swapped to pure chronological listing of updated pages that satisfy certain requirements like view count, followers and site age but maybe there's still some randomness in how the pages and status updates get displayed.

No. 2429014

>>2428954
Yeah there must be some sort of randomness. I guess I'll just blame Kyle kek. I'm still mad that he added comments to the global feed

No. 2431587

>>2428954
>I'm not sure if there's an easier way of checking but for example I would open page 400 of the most followed sites while logged into my account and then I'd open the same page on a private browser tab where I'm not logged in. Then I would take a look at what the first site is on the page where I'm logged in, and I'd try to find that site on the page where I'm not logged in. […]

That is super convoluted and time consuming. I know for a fact I'm blocked by some people because I can't view their profile and saw passive aggressive status updates about my content on the activity feed before, but I don't care enough to find the exact numbers.

No. 2431639

>>2428954
How do you have the time to do this

No. 2431718

>>2431639
NTAYRT but it takes about 30 seconds to open two tabs and compare the position of a single site

No. 2431723

>>2431639
The explanation is convoluted but as the anon above me said, it's just opening two tabs and counting a few spaces it's really not that hard kek

No. 2431726

>>2431639
No offense, but how did what that ayrt described sound time consuming at all?

No. 2431889

>>2431726
Probably because she found out she was blocked by 30 people by doing this on every page in the most followed sites feed…

No. 2431933

>>2431889
you don't have to check every page. just skip to the last one on both tabs and look at the difference.

No. 2432100

>>2431889
As much as I'm curious that would take too much time and writing some kind of a browser script would be better to do at that point. Once I figured out how it worked I checked the first few pages though, naturally.

No. 2432323

>>2432100
>would rather write an entire browser script than open two tabs and compare two numbers
Maybe this just me being a dinosaur who had to deal with how unwieldy the web was years ago, but I can't imagine being this lazy. Especially when you're paradoxically putting in way more work than you would have otherwise.

No. 2432391

>>2432323
Some of us know how to code.

No. 2435215

Be thankful for lazy programmers. They've automated a lot of stuff that we used to have to do manually.

No. 2435402

>>2432391
Get used to being shamed by the self-professed feminists in this thread.

No. 2435581

>>2435402
who cares?

No. 2437485

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apparently vashti already got herself a binder. i wonder how long this larp is gonna last until she realises troon shit won't save her

No. 2437506

>>2437485
how miserable…

No. 2437538

>>2437485
The fact that this happened on March 8th makes it even more depressing

No. 2438032

>>2437485
This Ivy girl is 100% an enabler.

No. 2439649

>>2437485
and within 48 hours she's got an entry on her calendar complaining about chest pain, it would be funny if it weren't so sad

No. 2440158

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this is bizarre, right? why is ivy posting if vashti is just going to comment under it?

No. 2440180

>>2440158
Why am I getting the vibe Ivy is a sockpuppet? I thought they were online friends but she manages to have access to Vashti's account…?

No. 2440236

>>2440180
Because this is exactly how sockpuppets are used when not brigading someone. They play dolls.

No. 2440253

>>2440158
Oh, she's a schizo kek

No. 2440299

>>2440253
Or playing dolls

No. 2440429

>>2440253
i mean, given her ramblings in her calendar relating to religion it wouldnt surprise me if she was schizo.

No. 2440454

>>2440180
I guess it's possible Vashti gave Ivy her account password. They seem weirdly enmeshed, but the sockpuppet theory is way funnier. I did think it was odd that their sites are so similar. I just figured Ivy was copying Vashti

No. 2440662

ugh, smartgb is so bloody annoying. i just tried to comment on someone's because i really liked their site, and it kept hitting me with an error and temp. suspended me for having a link in my message which is strange since i didn't even use a period in it at all. i was thinking of using their service to replace my old guestbook but now i'm not so keen– any nonnies have a good alternative?

No. 2441873

>>2440180
Same here, I’m sort of getting a DID larp vibe from it lmao. Their sites are so similar too.

No. 2442286

>>2440662
I use ultraguest but for some reason it hasnt been loading since yesterday

No. 2442626

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>>2437485
>>2438032
From loneliwish/"Ivy's" diary. If this diary is real, this person is more than just an enabler. I feel bad for Vashti.

No. 2442902

>>2442626
So is "Ivy" a MTF if these posts are talking about being mistaken for gay and a girl? I thought Vashti was trooning so she could be "straight" with this girl, but I think she's being groomed by a man instead now…

No. 2443009

>>2442626
great find anon. jesus. explains why he's ripping off Vashti's style (it's clear he didn't write like that before kek)… all mtfs know how to do is skinwalk

No. 2447669

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I was thinking of making my own neocities page but the thought of sharing webrings with bpdchans and other assorted ddlg types seems bleak

No. 2447684

>>2447669
Just don't join a webring then, and you can turn your site profile off too.

No. 2447704

>>2447684
I know. I just wish there was somewhere to interact with other users of similar interests but nearly everyone (non-gendie) I’ve encountered enjoys documenting their monthly manic episodes. It really is no different than social media.

No. 2447710

>>2447704
what are your interests, anon?
I think you should do it anyway. maybe you haven't found any sites with owners that seem similar to you, but when you make your own, all the people similar to you will be able to find you. they can't do that if you're not putting yourself out there!

No. 2448203

>>2447704
nona just make your page, like someone else said there’s no obligation to join webrings or listings etc. and if you want to get in touch with someone whose site you admire send an email or post in their guestbook? it’s really not that hard to communicate with likeminded people

No. 2448395

>>2447669
Then don't? There's nothing forcing you to interact with bpdchans or join webrings.

No. 2448773

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>>2447669
Just do it, you don't have to join a webring in order to socialize with other webmasters, just read their pages and reach out directly via email.
You can also try reaching out through fan listings or cliques if they have the members list displayed. If you really wish to have a social media aspect to your a personal webpage, you can interact with webmasters via the activity tab (though I generally avoid it because I go on neocities to avoid social media type interactions)

I dont see the issue of joining a webring that have gendies/tards in it unless the webrings is retarded/gendie oriented in the first place or is ran by a tard. It's not like a discord server where you're on a first-name basis with other members, you just happen to be in a "digital club" with members that all like the same thing.

No. 2449685

This is going to be oddly specific but do neocities websites allow hosting an rpg maker game?
I've only seen the option of web being a thing on RPG Maker MV settings but never understood how it worked. I'd like to make a neocities web page with a game on it if it is possible.

No. 2449727

>>2449685
It should be pretty easy, I believe RPG Maker allows you to export a game to HTML, and from there it's just a matter of uploading the HTML folder to neocities which I hear is a bit of a pain in the ass, but idk if you want to use the CLI tool: https://neocities.org/cli

No. 2449784

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do any nonas like net art? https://anthology.rhizome.org/ has some really great examples from the 80s through to the current era. looking through these has been really inspiring for building my own website.
i feel like a lot of smallweb sites these days are really same-y, and don't try to explore the creative possibilities of html, css, and javascript. even the ones with cool art and backgrounds or whatever are all basically the same box layouts, with the same generic blog/about/shrine contents. it's a shame, because it essentially turns your website into a glorfied socmed page. i think the whole point of having a website over a twitter or whatever else is the ability to break out of those predefined boxes.

No. 2450124

>>2449784
I like your idea anon but you don't have to debase someone's passions and form of self expression to get your point across.

No. 2450177

>>2448773
their faces look like kanjis hehe

No. 2450179

>>2450124
I was with anon until that. My site isn't an abstract art project and doesn't have to be museum quality when it's text heavy.

No. 2450182

>>2450124
What? How did anon "debase someone's passions" by talking about her own love for net art?

No. 2450184

>>2450182
>i feel like a lot of smallweb sites these days are really same-y, and don't try to explore the creative possibilities of html, css, and javascript.
>it's a shame, because it essentially turns your website into a glorfied socmed page.

No. 2450318

>>2450124
>"I personally think it's boring and uncreative"
>"you're debasing their passions!!!"
kek what. It's not like that anon was making fun of them… did she strike a nerve

No. 2450397

>>2450124
>>2450179
sorry nonas, i didn't mean to imply that those kinds of layouts are bad or anything. just that i wish there was more variety in the smallweb/neocities scene.

No. 2450465

>>2450397
That's a normal want to have, especially when the majority of Neocities sites are empty. Be the change you want to see nona and I'm sure you'll inspire others to break the mold too.

No. 2450476

How much information/images/pages/stuff can a neocities site hold? What's the limit? Is their a limit where pased a certain threshold it's pay instead of free?

No. 2450486

>>2450476
a free site has a 1gb max which is quite a bit if you compress your photos, etc. otherwise, you can pay $5/month and get 50gb and be able to upload whatever file types you want

No. 2450487

>>2450476
If you optimize your content well and don't over-bloat your page with unnecessary assets, you should be able to make a sizeable amount of content within the 1GB limit. Many people who use neocities have claimed to hardly reach beyond 90% of the space limit. Its very generous though if you some how manage to meet the size threshold you are unable to upload/rename/change files until you free up space or upgrade to the supporter status (50GB of space)

No. 2450627

>>2449784
>try to explore the creative possibilities of html, css, and javascript

You'll catch hell for doing that too. Just do what you want and don't worry about what anybody else thinks.

No. 2450875

>>2449784
>with the same generic blog/about/shrine contents. it's a shame, because it essentially turns your website into a glorfied socmed page.
if you would rather make an art piece than a personal website you should totally go for it, but people have been making websites dedicated to their lives/hobbies since the beginning. it's silly to call that glorified social media.

No. 2453129

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from vashti's new dream page, found among complaints of not being able to take T yet and other bizarre nonsensical dream shit. somehow i wouldnt be surprised if this dream was true to life and this ivy troon has a flash drive full of porn

No. 2455419

Just a small vent. I hate losing my motivation and leaving incomplete pages. There was a time when I didn't put anything public until it was finished, but my site ended dead, so I switched to putting pages in public and kept working on them. But now I have two big pages I can't finish or progress with the content, mainly text.

No. 2455645

>>2455419
who cares about a "dead website" I have waited upwards of months to years for a site update and haven't minded it at all. Working on your website shouldn't be an obligation unless you have a brand or franchise to promote at a regular basis.

No. 2456941

>>2455419
What do you mean by "dead" though? Do you lose NC followers or do the lack of updates make it feel dead? You're not obligated to keep a content flow on a personal site, if you want to wait until a page is finished to publish, that's fine.

No. 2457313

>>2455419
I used to feel the same way but I realized that a personal site is never truly complete, it's always changing. I don't care when people I follow upload incomplete pages. So, why should I fret over posting WIPs when I'm fine with other people doing the same thing? Plus, it's fun to see how a page changes over time as things are added and modified. Just update at a pace that you can manage.

No. 2457757

File: 1742694386306.png (Spoiler Image,51.25 KB, 872x150, 8902241.png)

https://colllarr.neocities.org/about
neocities age player, must be a day that ends with y

No. 2457844

File: 1742698971503.png (52.64 KB, 851x612, disgusting.png)

>>2457757
Where do these people come from? Are they all grown in a lab?

No. 2457903

>>2457757
>left-wing liberal feminist
Kekkkk of course

No. 2457920

>>2457757
cant believe how boring somebody must be to make their whole existence their sexuality

No. 2457973

File: 1742712338686.png (19.86 KB, 365x392, kweer stuff.png)

>>2457757
kekkkk also
>forced straight
>queer stuff
why are spicy straights

No. 2458047

>>2457844
No, being a literal homunculus with no real parents would fit the fake trauma narratives they make up to justify their degeneracy. People like this just watch too much porn.
>>2457920
Show me one DDLG fetish freak with a personality outside of fucking ugly old men and bragging about it online. I'll wait.

No. 2458056

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>>2457757
>was kinky since she was a teenager
This girl was def groomed. That makes me angrier that she's perpetuating the cycle as a grown adult.

No. 2458494

>>2458056
tumblr autogrooming?

No. 2458500

>>2457920
these people are incapable of thinking beyond anything so they latch onto simple political and sexuality identifications

No. 2458534

>>2458056
This is just tumblr brainrot. women sucked up in disgusting baby larp fetishes for male approval

No. 2458588

>>2457973
Considering it's a liberal feminist type I'm going to assume
>forced straight: lesbians forced to have sex with men
>forced gay: straight men forced to have sex with gay men and straight women forced to have sex with a spicy bisexual self-insert

No. 2458594

>>2458588
There are genuinely a surprising amount of people (I think porn-brained) who view sex as "submission/dominance" so I think they view it as offensive when someone is claiming to be dominant over someone else. It sounds really stupid but I'm trying to make my brain into an animals to understand this in the first place

No. 2458644

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>>2458534
>when I talk about loving dad bods, that's real
>when I talk about horrific sexual torture it's obviously fiction only
>dubious consent, patriarchy, piss, pain, humiliation
Can you imagine not just being into this gross shit but having a whole website dedicated to it? Tumblr: not even once. The collar me daddy uwu shit is so kek. There's no way these people actually have any sex or love in their lives.

No. 2458750

>>2455645
It's just a personal letdown to neglect something that is my hobby and sit on these unborn or half-baked ideas.
>>2456941
Maybe dead was not the right word, it's not about followers, it's about being stuck creatively. And a little neurosis too kek.
>>2457313
Yeah I'm taking this approach because at least I'm able to see the progress and feel that my little project is moving.

>>2457757
>Fun fact: I'm one of those rare women who doesn't particulary care for foreplay; let's just get on with it!
We need a mk-ultra program but for pick mes.

No. 2459026

>>2457973
is pronoun play misgendering troons? now i can tell anyone who calls me a terf that it's kink shaming and there's nothing they can do to stop me. don't yuck my yum.

No. 2459484

>>2458594
not sure what that has to do with ayrt but don't call them animals kek, They get off on that

No. 2459902

>>2458644
>file name
KEK

No. 2460724

The sheer amount of troonery I've come across on neocities is disheartening

No. 2460731

>>2460724
it's why i don't browse the activity feed anymore or look for websites to follow. it's all zoomers who weren't actually around for oldweb so they do a poor job at attempting to emulate it. even when you go on a site that might visibly resemble an old personal webpage there is absolutely no avoiding all of the troon badges & the narcissistic about page listing off all of their special snowflake qualifications. it takes me out of it, it looks so modern because most of those retarded labels didn't even exist back then
it's how i'd like to imagine what some people might've felt when everyone was idolizing the 80's in the early 2000s. you had to be there or you missed the point. these people would have been laughed off the internet in ~2005. they can't recognize that because they're pretending to be nostalgic for something they clearly weren't around for. there are a handful outliers to this clear pattern, but that's a whole different discussion imo

No. 2460737

>>2142834
>Sadgirl layout
Examples?

No. 2460816

>>2460724
It feels like 90% of users are either a troon or a handmaiden. Trying to find a normal webmaster is like navigating a minefield. I recently followed back a site that seemed normal and like immediately after, they plastered their site with trans shit kek

No. 2460851

File: 1742883064143.png (302.62 KB, 1175x898, sadgrl.png)

>>2460737
these kinds of pages. they're all made with sadgrl/goblin-heart's old layout maker

No. 2460855

>>2460851
It looks like a colour blind or depressed teacher made this. It's kind of weird bc you already think of bodily functions or physical injury with gendies since that's all they talk about and then they choose excrement/bruising as their personal palette too. Truly "a world of pain"

No. 2461026

>>2460816
That's why I'm very grateful for the WOTI webring, even if you aren't interested on the sites there the sites each one links to are way more likely to be run by normal people, so it's good to find new pages.
I also like to go thru fanlistings, but sadly more often than not the people listed are either expired domains or collectives that don't mention their main site, so it's a bit hard/time consuming but I have found mormie sites like that as well.
I don't check NC in general anymore, both because I moved and because it sucks for finding new sites unfortunately. I just wish the sites I follow actually updated their "Update" section whenever they add stuff to their site, I keep missing stuff kek.

No. 2461190

the normie woman webring still has no new members kek, great decision to make it

No. 2461266

>>2461190
the last update on the yarns and peep site was around the time the webring was established so its definitely a honeypot all thing considered.

No. 2461788

>>2461190
I was planning to join once i actually make my website but I'm just too anxious to actually make it

No. 2461875

>>2461266
It's run by the same woman, lol.

No. 2462230

>>2461875
That doesn't make it less suspicious.

No. 2462408

>>2462230
A completely open source web ring is suspicious to you because it's updated around the same time as the website the admin's personal website is updated? It was hosted on GitHub pages. You're schizophrenic.

No. 2462440

>>2462408
It wasn't just updated around the same time the webring was updated, the website itself was created for the webring, around the same time it was established. These coincidences wouldn't be bad on its own but there's a bunch of red flags when combined together

No. 2462650

File: 1743010139282.gif (276.43 KB, 242x246, 1000015745.gif)

>>2462440
I dont get it. Red flags for what?

No. 2462702

>>2462650
Nta but red flags that suggest it's a honeypot made by a moid or troon

No. 2462734

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I'm a bit sad on how the normie webring turned out so nonas ITT what would you look for in a women only webring?
>Would you prefer it to be farmer-only or a general non-gendie women webring
>Would you like references to LC (pastures/farm themed) or would you prefer the theme to be completely irrelevant to the site.
>Would you prefer applications to be registration only or would you be comfortable with screening questions (in the case the webring is for farmers only)
I plan to spread the webring through word of mouth however the index will be public.

>>2462650
Some things I can think of from the top of my head, note that coincidences on their own aren't unreasonable, it becomes suspicious when combined.
>Hosted on github
Not unheard of for a woman to use however a majority of moids host on GitHub.
>Site was made around the same time the webring was established.
>Site has no images and barebones CSS
>Site theme is tradwife blogging
>Webring was posted on LC, its common knowledge that gendies and TRAs lurk this thread, it was setting the applicants up for harassment.
>As of creating this post the URL for the webring is inaccessible

No. 2462742

>>2462734
>As of creating this post the URL for the webring is inaccessible
Very interesting because I was looking at it just yesterday. Kind of disappointing that all the nonnies being angry about WOTI not being terf only didn't join it, despite the disagreements I wanted to see more based women out in the open in the smallweb circles.

No. 2462743

>>2462739
I certainly have no plans on making it normie only (its why I didn't apply for the initial webring kek) similar premise to WotI except no gendies allowed.

No. 2462744

>>2462734
Do you think such a webring wouldn't already be redundant and have overlapping members when WOTI exists? I feel like the community is too small to warrant its existence, but as long as you're making exactly what you want, you do you nona.

No. 2462749

>>2462744
Its why I suggested if a farmer adjacent webring would be preferable thats intended for webmasters who have GC views to seek like-minded sites but do not wish to sign up to an outright radfem/political webring. Common complaints about WotI is having to shift through actual women from the female gendies in the members list; it would probably be more convenient to have a ring that has zero tolerance for troon rhetoric so you don't accidentally become acquainted with a low-key TRA.

No. 2462751

>>2462742
It seems all that whining was for nothing, anons here even revealed the audience for this webring don't even have their own site kek

No. 2462777

>>2462762
Normie in this case doesn't mean Disney adult swifties. Just women with jobs, education, independence and they touch grass sometimes.

No. 2462784

>>2462751
Its the webring being normie only that dissuaded nonas from joining. I highly doubt anyone who actively uses this site would be considered a normie kek.
most webmasters ITT are some flavour of weeb or sperge and normies usually stick to social media or a premade blogger/wordpress in general.
>I will be strict. No gendies. Not even female gendies. One must be a normal, mundane, natal XX wombyn with a normal life and normal hobbies.

No. 2462873

>>2462734
>Would you prefer it to be farmer-only or a general non-gendie women webring
How would you even make it farmer-only? I'm a farmer but nothing on my site really suggests it, aside from me being in WOTI. I follow several sites that I suspect are run by farmers, but unless they explicitly mention lolcor like Vivarism, it's just that, a suspicion. There's no way to really confirm it. As for non-gendie women, that would be nice but I still feel like it runs the risk of being infiltrated by troons. If that happens, how would you deal with it? Would you remove them? What happens if they have a histrionic fit and start targeting other members in the webring? I'm not even sure it's possible to have a non-gendie women webring without its members being targeted, harassed, and mass-blocked so that they become shadowbanned. Neocities is infested by mob-mentality genderspecial teens. I don't have any GC related content on my site but just because I'm in WOTI, I've already been blocked by several sites I've never interacted with.
>Would you like references to LC (pastures/farm themed) or would you prefer the theme to be completely irrelevant to the site
An irrelevant theme would be safer. Some webmasters have already been harassed just because they're in WOTI. Having farm-related dogwhistles would just make it more obvious that it's LC related
>Would you prefer applications to be registration only or would you be comfortable with screening questions (in the case the webring is for farmers only)
I feel like invite-only might be best, similar to that flowering clique. Although at that point, I guess it would be more like a clique than a webring

>>2462742
>>2462751
I mean I didn't join because it looked like a honeypot kek. Thinking back, we got really lucky that the WOTI admin turned out to be non-malicious

No. 2462882

>>2462873
whats the difference between a clique and a webring anyways?

No. 2462884

most people itt are really overthinking the whole woti webring, literally nothing happened when i joined except for maybe one comment

No. 2462974

>>2462873
>How would you even make it farmer-only?
In this case the webring would be invite/referral only. I will ask some screening questions similar to the ones in the FC2 LC group for verification.
>the risk of being infiltrated by troons.
The webring will be an innocuous theme whether it be farm themed or not and will be very vague. It wont be outright labelled as a "women's only" webring and it will be a certain aesthetic that likely wouldnt attract a TIM and at most would pique a TIF collecting widgets for aesthetics.
>how would you deal with it?
The webring would have an upfront rule that will deny or remove a website at the admin's discretion. If a reason for removal is requested, the notice will be as vague as possible. If drastic measures are required, the members list will be privated and the widget will be changed to be innocuous to protect members from harassment.
>I'm not even sure it's possible to have a non-gendie women webring
A webring with the sole purpose to showcase women webmasters only? Absolutely it will be hard in this day and age, however an innocuous aesthetic webring would likely fly over the radar; I have no intentions of making this a political oriented webring nor require GC content as a prerequisite to join. As long as you are a natal women who identifies as such and does not have TRA beliefs or graphics you are qualified for the webring.
>Having farm-related dogwhistles would just make it more obvious that it's LC related
Agreed, especially after the artfight incident.
I thought it would be best to ask anyways just in case (though any ideas would be immediately null by virtue of being brought up publicly here in the first place kek)
>I feel like invite-only might be best. Although at that point, I guess it would be more like a clique than a webring
What differentiates this webring from a standard clique is the javascript function that allows you to access other sites in the webring via the widget. The goal of this webring is to showcase women hobbyists that focus on their site content and hobbies rather than gender nonsense.

>>2462884
My main concern with WOTI isnt the harassment (my comments and neocities profile is off so troons have no avenue to harass me anyways. the tards that do the effort of finding my guestbook to leave a snarky reply is more laughable than threatening) but rather trying to find other women webmasters only to get jumpscared by a trans rights button or they/them in the about page.
No shame to WOTI and the admin, she has already went above and beyond initiating the project in the first place, it would just be nice to have some variety in women spaces, especially some with more niche/condensed beliefs.

No. 2463022

>>2462884
How many followers do you have? I got death threats and harassment through email and guestbook so I guess it depends on how many people know about your site.

No. 2463099

>>2462742
I deleted it because there's no one else there lol. >>2462734 it was hosted on GitHub pages bc it was generated through Jekyll and GitHub has workflows which makes it possible to just generate it and push the public html to the GitHub pages, forked from https://github.com/TooManyBees/ring and yeah it has minimal css bc I made it in 5 minutes. I made yarn-and-peeps first and it's not a tradwife blog lmao it was knitting autism containment.

No. 2463101

>>2462974
Thanks for answering my questions! Wishing you the best of luck if you decide to make it. It's such a shame that something as innocuous as a women's only webring can cause such a stir

No. 2463404

I find it very interesting how multiple people linked to by and interacting with Guyvy and now-trans-Vashti are members of WOTI. did they never hear about the terf callouts? are they trannies and infiltrating on purpose? or are they begrudgingly parroting "Michael" out of a desire to be nice kek

No. 2463448

>>2463099
Did no one apply to it?

No. 2464093

Why not just make a list of sites we audience curate that is just women led sites that don't have gendie nonsense on them?
Don't even ask the site owner, they can plausibly deny any affiliation, it's a 3rd party wearing that the sites are not connected to

No. 2464103

>>2464093
How do we "audience curate" in the first place? If you mean doing it through LC that would be a horrible idea as gendies/TRAs lurk this thread frequently and have shown to do so in multiple instances.
There are sites like >>>/ot/2395291 that simply showcase cool websites (NOT like the federiefederi follow for follow scheme) though a majority of webmasters would not be pleased to be on an outwardly "Radfem/GC website" list since that's setting them up for easy harassment. It also wouldn't function as a webring since the webmasters would have to implement the script on their site in order to connect their site to the webring member list.
Even if the webmaster can deny affiliation, zoomies are retarded and place baseless claims on anyone just for an opportunity to harass them all the time.
I personally wouldn't feel threatened by it but I would be very annoyed to have spam mail/guestbook messages clogging up my feed

No. 2464199

>>2464103
>though a majority of webmasters would not be pleased to be on an outwardly "Radfem/GC website" list since that's setting them up for easy harassment.
Agree. I'm a full blown TERF and even I wouldn't want that. My website is 100% apolitical and dedicated to hobbies, being put on a weblisting because I don't mention pronouns would annoy me when I just want to post fashion and retro anime in peace.

No. 2464238

would you consider websites that have imageboard culture or lingo as a redflag? trying to find sites to follow and imageboard larpers are one of the easier sites to distinguish as potential farmers.
>>2463404
just connected the dots on who Vashti is and im so disappointed she trooned out, her website intrigued me. wasn't guyvy also in woti? hope admin intervenes soon

No. 2464299

>>2464238
Guyvy isn’t listed on the webring and I can’t say he ever was. I look at it infrequently to find other normal women and I’ve never come across his site on there at all.

No. 2464310

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>>2464238
I also don't think he was ever in WOTI, I just looked at many of the Wayback Machine archives of his site and didn't see the widget once
I don't understand why mtfs think putting a space before punctuation and typing out filler words is soooo girlbrained. I've never seen any woman constantly ham it up like they do

No. 2464329

>>2464299
In hindsight I mustve mistooken his site for vashtis since they have similar aesthetics. really creepy that hes even skinwalking her website style

No. 2464526

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slightly autistic but i hate how so many websites have that fuckass crt scanlines filter on them. it isnt even unique and it just hurts my eyes

No. 2464536

>>2464526
agreed. I dont want to sound like an accessibility sped but some color combos, fonts, and css filters are a genuine eyesore to read through.

No. 2464579

>>2464526
Same, it causes me so much eye strain that if the webmaster doesn't provide an option to turn it off I'll just close the page.

No. 2464885

>>2464238
>would you consider websites that have imageboard culture or lingo as a redflag?
Depends. Usually if women portray themselves as wojaks and femcels I give them a side eye, it's a bit too cringe and juvenile for me kek. I'll still probably give their site a follow out of general interest though unless they give off severely underage vibes.

No. 2464976

>>2464238
Orange flag. I think imageboard culture/lingo should stay on imageboards. The 4chanification of the internet for the past 10-15 years has been so cringe. Most sites that I've seen use ib lingo are edgy tryhards and/or underage

No. 2465155

>>2464310
TIMs trying to speak in animespeak never fail to elicit the urge to alog "umm umm.. teehee I'm a ditzy uwu girl" you fucking sped you do not sound cute you sound like an inept retard.

No. 2465809

I have newbie questions about Neocities.
Can someone learn my email address if it don't put it anywhere on my site?
Can I make a second site with the same email address but a different site name?
Can images appearing on my site be hosted on a different site (imgur, photobucket, archive.org, etc.) and would that change how much space is used?
Does a repeating small image as a background use as much space as say a static large image background?

No. 2465833

>>2465809
>Can someone learn my email address if it don't put it anywhere on my site?
no
>Can I make a second site with the same email address but a different site name?
no unless you pay for supporter
>Can images appearing on my site be hosted on a different site
yes, that's called hotlinking, they wouldn't take up space on your website because they're not hosted there
>Does a repeating small image as a background use as much space as say a static large image background?
on the webpage? sure if you make it that way with css, but for filesize no. a 500x500 image generally isn't going to be the same filesize as a 1000x1000 image

No. 2466059

>>2465809
You can use burner emails if you're scared of people getting your actual address, same with making a second account to host more sites. I have a few sites on Neocities using that method

No. 2466532

>>2465809
Another note on the second site, you can use the same email to make another site if you write it like this email+1@gamil.com (or similar, add a +1/+2/etc before the @), it counts as different one but all the messages will be sent to your normal email.
As >>2465833 said though, you can only have 1 site per account unless you pay for supporter, so you have to create a new account for it. I don't think this is against the rules or that is monitored as I had 2 accounts like this for years with no issues.

No. 2467506

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>go looking for website layouts
>rabbit hole to blinkiecafe
>gendieshit everywhere
At least it's customizable text

No. 2468235

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>>2453129
on this very page you can actually find Vashti talking about relaying some dream to Guyvy and his reply is to admit to being pornsick (telling her that the fucked up porn in her dream was "barely porn")

No. 2468432

>>2468235
theres especially something insidious about a woman self harming being deemed "softcore". fucking vile I hope he 41% and vashi snaps out of this nonsense fucking hell

No. 2469831

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>>2468432
i hope she does too but i think she won't unless something very drastic happens to peak her out of it. semi-related, i hate the way TIFs like her talk about joan of arc. she wasn't a man because she dressed as such, and she wasn't ever a man at all.

No. 2470316

>>2453129
A flash drive of porn ready for the bans? Moids really think their pronz are a human right. Let me guess "Ivy" thinks porn being banned censors kweer people too.

No. 2472072

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>>2467506
speaking of gc buttons i made a chiikawa stamp inspired by the 2X stamps. if anyones interested I can make stamps of other characters from chiikawa

No. 2472081

>>2472072
Oh this is too cute. More please!

No. 2472117

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>>2472081
Thank you! Heres a hatchi.
I hope to make a site to have chiikawa themed stamps/pixels once I get supporter status again

No. 2472824

I have a question about creating websites. What's involved in creating a website with animated timers like the website below? I want to create one, but with much better animations, but I have no idea what I'm doing. I feel like with a couple of months study, I could create a website with normal timers, but I have no idea if that's accurate or not. And I have no idea what what you need to know to create animated timers. I want to create animated timers with like sunrise and sunset in different locations and some cute animations like a cat playing a ball of yarn or a kitten trying to climb some stairs. I would appreciate any and all advice. Sorry if this is not the right board for this question.

https://www.online-stopwatch.com/sensory-timers/sunset/
https://www.online-stopwatch.com/christmas/trees/

No. 2472855

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>>2472824
Do you wish to make the graphics from scratch via CSS or incorporate gifs timed to the timer? You might need to add JS to make sure the animation is accurately timed but there should be free resources online to find the code. freecodecamp has good tutorials on how to make graphics with CSS for practice, you can also inspect element the example sites and research the code on w3school to learn how they function.

No. 2472870

>>2472855
>Do you wish to make the graphics from scratch via CSS or incorporate gifs timed to the timer?
I don't know as when I said I didn't know anything I meant it. Thank for advising me of the options. I now know what to research.

No. 2472876

>>2472870
To elaborate, making graphics from scratch via CSS means making the image off of code lines, whereas a gif would be using a pre-made image, usually a singular asset. hope this clears it up a bit

No. 2473092

>>2472072
I want to use these on my site but I'm too scared kek

No. 2473132

>>2473092
Go for it! I saw someone use the 2X stamps which inspired me to make one of my own. Not sure if shes a farmer but there are innocuous websites out there that are GC; some hopium for neocities nonas

No. 2473802

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Anyone know what happened to rice.place? Did she end up deactivating on her own terms or was it related to something else. I know sites come and go but its always a bummer to site neat pages go down without explanation

No. 2473904

>>2473802
Last I saw there was some drama happening with someone copying her site out of retaliation to her "copying muh oldweb sites is bad" manifesto (copy eventually got nuked), then again this was maybe a month ago so idk

No. 2474154

>>2473802
>>2473904
She was a0i/hatsu on neocities so it doesn't surprise me that she deleted like this

No. 2474594

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Does anyone else remember those TCG websites where you would trade pixel cards with other people to complete decks? I used to love them. I thought they were probably all dead but I found one still running on dreamwidth

No. 2474794

>>2474594
I'm active on DW and that games has always intrigued me (I wasn't around when it was on its prime). I looked into it some time ago and it looks fun, it surprised me they even got sets for obscure-ish characters I love.
I was considering joining because some websites I follow play it and their pages dedicated to it look nice, but I only care about a few series and I think it's gonna be too hard to collect cards of them.

No. 2476641

>>2474154
wait really, have you got a source? im surprised we weren't dogging on her sooner for her "copying isnt a fucking act of love" slop manifesto

No. 2476710

>>2476641
She had the same depop and carrd linked on both sites. I'll see if I can get screenshots from the archived sites when I get home

No. 2478745

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>>2476641
I haven't read the manifesto but I somewhat get the sentiment.
I've seen sites that blatantly rip off the CSS of other sites, usually only changing the text. Most of the time they give up on updating the site because they don't actually have an understanding of the code and how to change it. Its one thing to take pieces of code from a site, its another to copy paste everything in the inspect element tab and change virtually nothing.

No. 2478761

>>2474594
>>2474794
kek, i used to be active on colors many years ago but then mousey? stopped hosting card posts so dealing with all the card files was a hassle and i stopped playing. there's a german tcg that's fully automated though and it has a ton of games and automatic trading (so it auto accepts cards and you don't have to do it yourself). it's pretty fun! https://heavenspell.la-impresion.org/TCG/

No. 2478827

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>>2476641
funny that the websites of the testimonies in the manifesto are either pre made templates or absolute hot garbage. no one in their right mind would copy shit like this kek

No. 2478868

Is there a guest book feature whe the owner of the website gets your ip address because you left a comment? I'm paranoid.

No. 2478871

>>2478868
Every website gets your IP address, that's how the internet works.

No. 2478873

>>2478868
That used to be a thing when 123guestbook was still up, don't know about any of the recent alternatives though. Your IP also shows if you use something like Cbox

No. 2478902

>>2478871
I think ayrt was referring to someone seeing her IP address because she commented in someone's guestbook
>>2478868
>>2478873
https://atabook.org/ , https://www.cbox.ws/ and I think https://ishoutbox.com/ have these features and I've seen them used on other people's websites. Anon should go back to the guestbook she commented in and look up if it has that feature, it should be listen on the main domain. Have you been leaving comments on sketchy sites? I doubt most guestbook users would wanna do something bad with your IP address

No. 2478906

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>>2473802
>>2474154
I lurk the nekoweb discord and I never made the connection due to her typing style seeming kind of different. I never bothered visiting her site because of that lame and overused dokodemo cat icon, the moment I see someone has that cat plastered all over their site I tend to ignore it. She has 18k messages in the discord and is still active, discordfag to the max.

>>2476710
That's a good catch nonnie

>>2478868
I have used smartgb since I started out and yes it has that feature.

No. 2478943

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Some random enby in 32bitcafe discord is seething about evil terves daring to apply to her programming fanlisting. I don't know who the queen that's applying is but I hope you know you made multiple people in that discord sperg out

No. 2479007

>>2478943
kekk love to see it

No. 2479064

>>2479050
Nonna delete this..

No. 2479065

>>2479050
While lazy I dont think copied text would be as egregious as the time someone ripped lovesick's landing page and included her commissioned pixel gif that she kindly asked for other people not to copy.
I do find it funny she has terfs fuck off but the old lesbian flag stamp in her marquee

No. 2479082

>>2479064
you're right, I've seen people swarm her cbox over it before, so I didn't think twice about saying that. figured the lurkers all know by now. I've deleted it anyway

No. 2479092

>>2479065
Kekkk of course she's a "lesbian." It's funny that she copied text and code snippets, but put a whole "do not steal my code" section. Also, it's weird she joined the mini cliques of someone she stole from, but doesn't link to her or follow her.

No. 2479097

>>2478943
Lmao shit I know this persons blog. Trannies are overly sensitive, there's nothing hateful about what she said and she's very nice otherwise.

No. 2479116

>>2478943
>being exclusionary towards trans women is hate speech
>op only states facts like only natal women can have 2X chromosomes
we need to start making mundane troon exclusionary spaces so they know how it feels to be a woman trying to join a hobby space only for it to be evaded by trannies making everything a navelgaze on their fetish

No. 2479274

yall are insane the way yall need to know everything.(namefagging)

No. 2479279

>>2479274
Couldn't help but lurk huh hatsu

No. 2479293

>>2479279
kekaroo that's gonna destroy her reputation

No. 2479419


No. 2479468

>>2479293
Knowing that she deactivated and came back under different aliases 3 separate times, shes definitely gonna come back sooner or later anyways because terminally online retards simply cant help themselves kek

No. 2479519

is lovesick really a terf if she’s married to a moid she calls poopy

No. 2479555

File: 1744081957896.jpg (65.02 KB, 798x400, 1000012764.jpg)

Are there any active oekaki boards besides Cinni's? That one is kind of dead.

No. 2479652

>>2479555
There's the chicken smoothie oekaki board. Aside from that, the only active oekaki I know of is https://tegaki.pipa.jp/ but idk if that's what you're looking for. You might have better luck asking in the artist salt thread

No. 2479732

>>2479519
Being married now disqualifies yoy from being a terf? kek
I think you're confusing terf, female separatist and simply not agreeing with the whole troon movement (I don't blame you as people tend to use these interchangeably). She's probably just the later, she's chill.

>>2479555
Along the other reply you got, there's also https://pinksea.art/. Its problem is that it's kinda dead as well and I think you might need a Bluesky account to post, but it's fun to draw on it.

No. 2479834

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Speaking of hatsu/a0i/rice, doesn't anyone else think this is also her site? The sperging about code theft feels like her.
https://bighater.neocities.org/

No. 2479853

>>2479834
>I do not fucking care
yet she reemerges and lurks everywhere and has to make statements everywhere about how she totally doesn't care kek.

No. 2479856

>>2479834
>anyways, i have a real site somewhere on the internet. somewhere you all will never know. i lurk everywhere.
Okay? Why is she so self important here kek

No. 2479894

>>2479834
>the biggest urk
>something that urks me too
kek, truly room temp iq

No. 2479897

>>2479856
bitch thinks shes lain iwakura

No. 2479982

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>>2479856
>>2479853
She has an obsession with lurking. Picrel was posted around the same time she made her newfaggy post in the thread. In addition, her being so extremely invested in the nekoweb discord is hilarious because it's full of 12 year olds and she talks there all day.

No. 2479993

>>2479982
it would be for the greater good if she stepped down from being public and kept her malding to herself but alas she has to make it clear to everyone that shes a hater and that she hates something and that she totally doesn't care that someone disagrees with her and yet she has to sperge that she is always watching and seething and finds shit to be mad about

No. 2480258

File: 1744143014665.gif (1.12 MB, 500x500, 1000016268.gif)

Nonnies i finally went get
>HTML5 and Javascript for Dummies
and a couple other books from the library so I can make my website more than just text on a white page.

No. 2480273

>>2480258
Hell yeah, best of luck on Javascript too, your site is going to be pimped up

No. 2480287

>>2479834
Didn’t her a0i site say that she doesn’t know how to code and she commissions people to make her layouts for her kek

No. 2480325

>>2479993
isn't she over 25 and married? imagine having no life despite that

No. 2480336

>>2480325
Chatting with kids at that big age and being married. Kek what a weirdo

No. 2480429

>>2480258
It's a shame webmonkey isn't a thing anymore, that's how I learnt. Is there a site these days that specialises in good easy tutorials for Web design like webmonkey did back in the day?

No. 2481748

i wish nekoweb was used by more adults. i feel like a lot of the drama that happens in the community only happens because it's overran by queer 14 year olds who just found out what coding is, i mean i understand what theyre going through, i was in their shoes once too, but come on man, how are you so socially inept…

also. lolcow hating on that one girl for being a hater is peak comedy; i feel like it's ironic you girls are making fun of her for being a hater when… that's what you're doing. can we get better lolcows please.(unintegrated newfag)

No. 2481802

>>2481748
>you girls are making fun of her for being a hater
I'll let you in on a secret, it's actually the attention whoring that we're making fun of her for

No. 2481818

>>2481748
welcome back grandma-chan

No. 2481906

>>2481748
maybe if she wasnt an attention whore who kept making herself known in these threads we wouldn't be giving her death for it. just a thought.

No. 2481926

>>2481748
Rice we know it's you. Come on now.(hi cow)

No. 2481946

>>2481748
Nekoweb is a childish looking host that bans people for being transphobic, any adult with a normal brain would look at that and lose interest. Just a few days ago there was some minor drama over people discovering a site with a troon soayjak and everyone clutching their pearls over it and begging for it to be banned. It's great for what it is, containment for children and fake edgy gendies.

And no, laughing at hatsu isn't peak comedy, she can't help but make herself known after each and every blunder. She's obsessed with site copying to the point of hilarity, especially at her big age, yet somehow each time drama around her appears she deletes her site right away instead of standing her ground and being such a based hater. Not to mention her hanging out with children all the time. It's just off-putting and pathetic

No. 2482020

>>2481946
Dude you're genuinely so retarded. Nowhere in the TOS does it say you can't be transphobic, that stupid soyjack website was banned because they were harassing some random Friday night funkin retard. It doesn't take a dumbass to read the rules of a service before you use it.

No. 2482083

>>2482020
>Nowhere in the TOS does it say you can't be transphobic
While that's true (and they wash their hands when it comes to offensive content hosted by them), considering the people who run it and its users I wouldn't ber surprised if the second someone points out a site is transphobic, they eliminate it.

No. 2482110

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>>2482020
Dude I'm not, transphobia is illegal in germany and sites have been taken down for such reasons multiple times. Not to mention the discord being an annoying troon hugbox while everyone flexes about using 4chan because it's so #oldwebcore. Don't bother acting dense, everyone knows an open and out terf would be immediately shunned and eventually banned on nekoweb. Now go back to your circlejerk.

No. 2482126

File: 1744283852727.jpg (71.46 KB, 389x753, nekowebrice.jpg)

She just edited all of her messages in discord to this. Once again deleting everything because people mentioned her once. Nobody would even care this much if she didn't come to the thread to whiteknight herself every time.

No. 2482199

>>2482110
Sites have not been taken down on nekoweb for being transphobic, nor have they been taken down for simply having a slur in them.

Also, I don’t think think being transphobic is illegal in Germany

The only thing I agree with is that nekoweb is a hugbox, but you know the best way to fix it? By actively using the website & evening the user demographic, by recommending it to your friends, by caring about the website despite all its troony users. Spreading misinformation on it will not help because anyone who actually decides to give a damn about the website will quickly realize how retarded you are.

>>2482083
The worst that would happen is the discord getting pissy and complaining, but I know the lurkers here would just loooove the attention, so it really doesn’t matter.

No. 2482205

Nekoweb looks cute and has a nice domain, but I don't know why anyone would put their site there unless they only plan to use it as a test or for a short amount of time.
There are more reliable free wen hosters out there, Nekoweb feels like it will implode after 3 Discord fights or when the mods get overwhelmed by the fact that running it cost time and money, it should've stayed as a clique/small hosting for their group of friends. I'm surprised it managed to get this far in all honestly.

Of course this is all conjecture, but as an outsider it just looks like everything but profesional. I'm glad it serves as a gendie/child zone ala Club Penguin for Y2K tiktokers so other hostings are more free of them though.

No. 2482207

>>2482126
I would've respected her being an open hater if she actually stood by her words and didn't tuck tail the moment someone acknowledges it. cowardly behaviour lmao

No. 2482297

File: 1744301282651.png (1.25 MB, 1304x867, Screenshot (77).png)

>>2482205
All of what you said is true and tbh it's a bit of a shame. Maybe it's a little specific but I like the explore tab and how you can customize your site preview (picrel) some people can get really creative. And at least maybe it will encourage younger zoomers to pick up some hobbies like coding

No. 2483114

What are some of the most unique web designs yall have seen?

No. 2483392

File: 1744379702975.jpg (53.51 KB, 735x893, 736x-1.jpg)

I can't put zoom in/zoom out with a click in images without breaking the code. I feel so dumb

No. 2483404

File: 1744380505635.jpg (39.49 KB, 250x250, Frog_Fractions.jpg)

Pic rel randomly popped into my head the other day. It starts like a normal educational game and then goes off the rails. I heard there was a sequel that ended up in some random steam game

No. 2483448

File: 1744383258695.png (788 KB, 1884x876, Screenshot.png)

>>2483114
its not the most unique but I really like the promotional website for virtual self
https://virtualself.co/

No. 2483458

>>2483448
Do you know if there's a recreation of the Nurture site? I thought that was really neat.

No. 2483544

File: 1744387986957.png (2.74 MB, 1904x812, activetheory.png)

>>2483458
You can try and see if internet archive had it saved otherwise I recall they made a VR version of the site on the oculus.
I found the web developer for the nurture and virtual self and the website is really cool
https://activetheory.net/

No. 2484695

>>2483544
Couldn't find it on archive but it looks like someone remade it in something called VRChat. I don't have a headset but it's nice it's preserved. Tiny bit tempted to get one though.
That website is sick af.

No. 2484702

>>2482199
>The only thing I agree with is that nekoweb is a hugbox, but you know the best way to fix it?
Why would you bother fixing a troon site honestly

No. 2484709

>>2484702
That anon is so confusing, just let the underage troons be in their own containment it's better for everyone. I know dimden himself is way chiller than most of his userbase but it's his own fault for creating nekoweb with a bunch of sensitive tifs and enbies. Nekoweb was set up to be pigeonholed with such a team behind it and that's that. If you want normal people to use your site host you need to be normie friendly which nekoweb is not. Neocities has been so quiet since nekoweb became a thing, and that's great kek.

No. 2484838

>>2484695
You can still explore VRChat without a headset, if you really wanted to see it! Depending on the complexity of the world it might not even be available for the cheaper headset anyways.

No. 2485490

File: 1744538786475.png (45.64 KB, 598x383, Screenshot.png)

Nonas, Geocities 2.0 is happening….
They're deleting Fc2 websites because their servers are too old and costy. In July they will launch Fc2 Homepage, and considering they made a migration guide and the aforementioned costs, I wouldn't be surprised if they delete the sites on the old one after a bit. I hope I'm wrong though, I don't want to say goodbye to 20 years worth of fanworks and art.
Internet archive barely has saved anything on top, and uploading pages there takes forever…
http://www.fc2web.com/

No. 2485494

nonnies, we should just have our own webring and be outwardly exclusionary to troons. i use neocities mostly for my sites, however i think it would start a riot between the highly child populated userbase

No. 2485503

>>2485490
I'm glad they're developing an alternative. The last substantial update on FC2 Web was back in around 2017, with the exception of scheduled maintenance periods. I really wish they would develop a way to automatically migrate sites over to the new servers. So many sites will be lost forever.

No. 2485531

>>2485494
this comes up like every five minutes in this thread. make one that doesn’t look like a mega honeypot or just stop mentioning it at this point.

No. 2485534

>>2485494
Look up and see what happened.

>>2485503
I misunderstood the announcement and was a bit wrong. Looks like only the sites not linked to Fc2 ID will be lost, so a huge portion will be saved at the very least (I think the ID thing launched in 2003 or so).
It will be:
http://www.fc2web.com/ -> Lost
https://web.fc2.com/ -> Saved
The Fc2 Homepage is actually what we all are using, so yeah it will continue with its 2005 grandiose UI and no major updates since 2017 haha.

No. 2485540

>>2485534
Yeah, I had a look after I posted that and I've been using FC2 Homepage for a while now haha, so I don't need to do anything, and others don't too!

No. 2485639

File: 1744557525247.gif (1.27 MB, 500x500, 1000016494.gif)

Nonnies why is it some complicated to have a custom scroll bar, I just want it to look cute why must Javascript be the only way

No. 2485647

>>2485639
You can use CSS to change the color and size, though size depends on which browser. w3schools should have a tutorial for it
Unless you want images for your scrollbar like it's a 2014 Tumblr theme

No. 2485684

>>2485540
Oh thank God. I've left my neocities like a baby in a hot car I'm not ready to save it yet

No. 2485949

>>2485647
>>2485639
I was finally able to get it working enough, I was using chat gpt to talk me through it. I used SimpleBar but had to download the css and js because the link only wasn't working. I've given up on getting the track (background image) working, I only got it running on a test file briedfly and never again. But the thumb (the rectangle you move) was there it was just weirdly thin, tried to work around it, set left to negative, even just chang z axis to bring it in front but it wasn't budgingnand ai was sending me in circles so I think
>maybe it's in the js and simplebar css file that's constraint it?
So I couldn't upload any thing and has to copy and paste sections and it said it might be the css but just sent me in circles again, so I used the inspect key because I did that to find out the online links were messed up and I find that I CAN MOVE THINGS WITH THE MOUSE?? WHAY TECHNO-WIZARDY IS THIS?
So I found the screen bar WAS constrained to 11 pixels wide when my image was 25 pixels (and I had already tried to set it to that with code in both the html and my css file) but I was able to modify it in the desktop and copy it back to the simplebar.min.css file because the code was a garbled mess on a single line and I wanst able to find it or override elsewhere.
So that's a win at least
But I still
>back piece still missing
>didnt adjust the height for the scroll thumb image so it stops short because it's still reading a 100px tall image not the 30px image

No. 2487665

>>2485949
if youre using firefox it doesnt support custom scrollbars, they can really only be recolored without a ton of JS and CSS. same for several other browsers

No. 2488625

File: 1744761656668.png (13.22 KB, 336x301, wtf.PNG)

what is that girl who posts insane suicide baits and complains about her troon bf abusing her all day talking about?

No. 2488737

>>2488625
Wait because I saw her say she had it all planned out for the fall, in spring or-so last year. I remembered it and checked back after the fact and saw she didn't do it.
You telling me that isn't the only time?? Jfc

No. 2489669


No. 2489673

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No. 2489713

>>2489673
>Insane tranny couple
>Lives in Seattle
literally every time also this isnt a doxx I just looked at her website

No. 2489753

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>>2488625
>>2488737
A shame shes schizo as fuck, her pixels are really cute

No. 2489759

>>2488625
wasnt she mentioned in the last thread kek

No. 2489921

>trying to find some interesting web rings to join
>all the "no hatespeech/transphobia" bullshit in the rules
It's all so tiresome

No. 2489981

>>2489921
I just straight up made my own for this reason kek, its a small group consisting of a penny, used napkin, and chip but its better than having to be crypto to join a fucking book webring or some shit

No. 2491585

File: 1744943900119.jpg (36.03 KB, 735x807, GOcEs9vWoAAUgbt.jpg)

anynonnie here use angelfire? last i checked you could still make a site with a free angelfire domain like back in the day. i'm thinking of using it to just have my own site away from everything (read: neocities userbase) like how fc2 sites are basically impossible to find unless you know the exact url but i'm mostly hesitant though because both fc2 and angelfire can take your site down at will, as most hosts other than neocities can/do (plus the recent fc2 scare + the fact that angelfire is ancient and could get shut down any moment now, idk i might be paranoid. i just want to have a little hidden site to host my autism on for years to come without worrying about it getting nuked)

No. 2491699

>>2491585
if the only problem is discovery then you can hide on nc by disabling your profile and comments, not using any tags, and marking your site as 18+. even with all the social media stuff enabled, unless you go out of your way to interact with people, nobody will know you exist. if you don't want to host there purely because of cringe by association, then just say that

No. 2491858

>>2491585
>anynonnie here use angelfire? last i checked you could still make a site with a free angelfire domain like back in the day.

You can't. I made an Angelfire account years ago for nostalgia reasons and as soon as you register it brings you to a page to subscribe for a paid plan. The cheapest option is 100MB for $3.25 a month, which isn't even worth it when a free account on Neocities or Nekoweb gives you more. You should probably look into self-hosting if you want a more obscure site, or follow >>2491699 's advice.

No. 2491920

>>2491585
>i'm mostly hesitant though because both fc2 and angelfire can take your site down at wil
So the same as any other host? I don't know how they worded it on their TOS, but as long as you don't upload anything illegal they won't move a finger.

No. 2492242

File: 1745004396056.jpg (40.75 KB, 253x199, angry.jpg)

can sites stop using fucking unintelligible text colors on their page, idc if its kawiwi no one can read teal on a fucking white background i hate having to manually paste #000000 in the code just to read

No. 2492916

>>2492242
In a way I'm charmed by it because it's like the modern equivalent to those neon background with neon font combos from back in the day. Pastel text on white bg has been a thing since 2010 Tumblr, so I don't think it's going away anytime soon.
But yeah, that and 5px font size are a good way to turn people away, I tend to close the tab the second I see the text isn't readable.

No. 2493040

File: 1745069867006.png (57.7 KB, 370x320, tumblr_pjmixfsTjG1x42ovco3_400…)

Do any of you have recs of tutorials/glosaries of technology/backend for babies? I have had my website for some years and I would like to learn PHP to make some things easier (and because I would love to create webrings and fanlistings I got on mind) but I don't understand anything. Simple things like executing scripts/programs, environments, web servers etc escape my mind. Of course Google is my friend and I look up these terms, but the explanations still feel like they're people with a good ground on using technology or Linux nerds.
When I moved away from NC I had problems as well, even the tutorial supposed for begginers was confusing, but luckly I found a host who is super nice and configured everything so I didn't had to do anything.
I might just be stupid though, but if you have anything I would appreciate it.

No. 2493058

>>2493040
if you're starting from zero with PHP, try Traversy Media's 3hr PHP crash course. It should get you started with the basic stuff you need. There's a lot of intro to programming type stuff at the beginning which you can skip or skim based on your familiarity

No. 2493124

>>2492242
just close the tab and you wont have to read it

No. 2493141


No. 2493230

>>2491585
I think any site can be taken down at any time. I've had an FC2 site since 09, not updated since about 2017 or 18 and it's still there just like it was. It's easy to use, you can use Ftp, and it's relatively straightforward. You can have a blog attached, a counter, a BBS and other things right there to put on your site easily too.

No. 2493237

>>2493058
>>2493141
Thanks to both of you! I will go thru them next week, but I skimmed a bit and they seem approachable enough

No. 2493294

>>2489921
I found one that's a free speech webring, and a Christian one but I'm sure it's not what nonas here on lolcor like

No. 2493323

>>2493124
Nona, I go out of my way to change the hexcode to black in order to read it, its annoying but its not stopping me from reading an interesting looking page

No. 2493342

File: 1745088718982.jpg (90.19 KB, 413x258, TFWET3Q48174841467.jpg)

Its always a pleasant surprise to see lc namedropped in a diary/blurb of a webmistress's site I give it a pass because the diary of some innocuous neocities site doesnt have the reach of a youtube video/social media post bonus points if theyre mentioning an ot thread and aren't bringing lc up for an le edgy ib larp

No. 2493447

>>2493230
It's probably worth having mirrors of your site just in case. Have multiple host backups for example.

No. 2493462

Does this mean fc2 counters and the other widgets will break too?

No. 2493579

>>2493462
FC2 isn't closing down. Sites that are old enough to be pre-ID system (which was in place even back in 2010) will be closed down unless the ID is made. Don't fret. As far as I know they are not going to break.

No. 2493698

File: 1745116225476.jpg (113.3 KB, 1080x634, Kek.jpg)

Xandra is on agora road fighting for her life to defend her special ed class of 40 year old groomer tims and autistic underage tifs who create nothing interesting

https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/the-personal-web.5647/page-17#post-141161

No. 2493796

>>2493698
really don't know why xandra bothers to defend 32-bit cafe from agora road users. i guess it's the whole "edgy male 4chan users are better than le evil terf women" thing.

No. 2493801

>>2493698
Surprisingly I think she stood her ground well, despite the cringe usage of "my guy, my dude, my bro" at the beginning of every post kek. However 32bit is and always be extremely gatekeepy. There's nothing wrong with that and they should reserve their right to be that way, but they'll never admit it openly and proudly because there's a stigma attached to it. They have to envelop their rules in layers of therapy and newspeak to sound palatable to retards, so rules like "don't be a trauma dumping attention whore" have to sound a certain way. Xandra does have a right to operate her space any way she wants just as we of course have a right to make fun of it.

No. 2493806

>>2493796
It's so telling that she's willing to be around 4chan neet incels but women who don't use made up pronouns are evil

No. 2493964

>>2493462
I don't have the link at hand, but they're ending support for some widgets as well (unrelated to closing down pre-ID websites though). The counter is unfortunately one of them, they advise you to use Google Analytics or a similat service instead. The other widgets closing were more niche iirc.

No. 2494420

>>2493806
IKR? One of the dudes in that thread criticizes her caping for trannies and uses that word, but she doesn't even cry "transphobia" once. But she'll gladly virtue signal over "TERFs" in her space.

No. 2494621

File: 1745189715439.jpeg (215.12 KB, 1179x278, IMG_3222.jpeg)

I’m not even angry with self hating women anymore, I just feel sad for them https://planetaryinfluence.neocities.org/diary/19-04-25

No. 2494629

>>2494621
Her being suspicious of other feminists and women is pathetic and sad. This is why I hate libfems and tifs. It's always dick over everyone and everything else.

No. 2494709

>>2494420
Lol, what do you expect her to do? One is her space.

No. 2494754

I don't get the webmasters out there that screech about their public website being seen. Do you or do you not want people to see it? If you don't want it to be seen, keep it local. It makes no sense otherwise. Especially when said webmasters still have a contact email and a guestbook. It's so attention seeking.

No. 2494827

>>2494754
Kek, do people actually act like that? They literally contradict thmeselves, that's so retarded. What's the point of having a website be public (especially when they have "about" pages where they seem to really want to be seen!) if you're going to sperg about people seeing it? KEK.

No. 2494847

>>2494754
I think this is a bit different from what you’re talking about but for me it’s about the audience. I want my website to be seen by less people because that often means those who are interested in website development or the topics I talk about are more likely to be the people who find and interact with my website. Being flooded by tons of zoomers who found my website through an aesthetic webcore tiktok or whatever just makes me feel uneasy.

No. 2495420

>>2494621
I don't, they're willfully ignorant for male clout. Just reading this post I can tell she's never talked to an actual radfem or detransitioner and parrots the same talking points everyone else does.

No. 2496167

>>2494621
How do people reach these conclusions? Is this some sort of brain wash?

No. 2496471

>>2494754
It's more nuanced than that. People don't want links to their website posted on to some hot bed social media fest which leads to tons of users visiting their site which breaks their site traffic, but they still want the convenience of sharing their site with people they know.

No. 2496646

>>2494754
>>2496471
i think it also boils down to the fact neocities users can't read for shit and would rather their writing be cared about than the visual aesthetic

No. 2496663

File: 1745352979322.png (232.03 KB, 1840x995, Screenshot 2025-04-22 at 13-15…)

she's back kek

No. 2496710

>>2496663
damn lasted a total of ~2 weeks LMAO

No. 2496742

>>2496663
It was inevitable. I don't know how she lives like this. I assume she sticks to Neocities because she's too thin skinned to exist anywhere else.
>>2496167
It's lazy thinking combined with extreme virtue signalling. They have no original thoughts. This is why they all speak the same and have the same talking points. There is safety in never thinking for yourself.

No. 2496835

File: 1745364456088.png (397.92 KB, 1580x746, 26 btw.png)

>>2496663
The mental image of this obese married woman clocking out of her sausage factory job to chat with middle schoolers on discord and post snarky anonymous callouts for every zero-follower code thief she finds is so fucking funny. So much for "focusing on life" kek

No. 2496839

File: 1745364746423.png (4.19 KB, 514x71, carrd.PNG)

>>2496835
wait that bighater site is her? funny how she complains about carrd when her site is one and social media aspects when all she does is feedspam

No. 2496871

>>2496835
How the fuck does she even find these accounts in the first place. If it was some bigger neocities user stealing code I'd get but these are literal nobodies probably doing babies first CSS/HTML and will likely give up because most of the time if theyre directly ripping off code they have no expertise in coding in the first place and will sooner give up or start from scratch

No. 2496978

>>2496839
her site basically looks like a carrd nowadays anyway kek

No. 2498287

File: 1745463254595.jpeg (63.3 KB, 1170x260, 1742845118147.jpeg)

i wish this thread wasn't for drama and was for sharing your site, following each other, etc. i can't imagine doxing my site here, knowing the type of crazies browsing, but at the same time i wish i could see what other anons are doing with their sites.

No. 2498293

I have my own personal site. It's not a blog, fan page, tumblresque furry or lgbt shit, it's coded entirely on my own "skill" without a builder or prebuilt layout, and it's on my paid for server and domain. Idk I just felt like sharing this.

No. 2498322

File: 1745466839223.jpg (24.03 KB, 736x484, errrm.jpg)

>>2498293(infight bait)

No. 2498484

>>2498293
That's pretty cool. What's your site about nona?
>>2498322
Fuck off, tiktard

No. 2498498

>>2498293
…okay, and?(baiting/not a chatroom)

No. 2498520

>>2498498
I think they want a medal

No. 2498658

>>2498322
>>2498520
>they
>retarded tiktok meme
Seriously what's with the influx of retarded zoomer gendies on this site
my fucking god GO BACK YOU NIGGERS(Racebaiting)

No. 2498672

>>2498658
Nona chill with the they = gendie thing, yeah we're all assumed to be women here but if you've been online and chatting with people you don't know for long enough it becomes automatic to call people they because you don't know their gender.

No. 2498684

>>2498658
lay off the ib usage edgelord

No. 2498685

>>2498672
Exactly, it's not "identity" bullshit,there's more moid migrators so its best to err on the side of caution.

No. 2498708

File: 1745503169061.jpeg (4.5 KB, 554x554, images (3).jpeg)

>>2498672
Using they/them for random anons is good actually. Gendies asking to be called they/them think it'll make them more special and memorable but by association they're actually filing themselves in the same category as faceless strangers. It's a real own goal.

No. 2498713

>>2498685
you can tell 'she' came straight from 4cuck kek

No. 2499696

>>2498293
must be boring as fuck if you fear all the things you mentioned

No. 2499812

>>2498672
>>2498685
>>2498708
Ackowledging moid tourists is the same as giving them space actually. We should be completely unaccepting of moids to the point of never assuming a poster is a moid, unless you are reporting the post. Moids GTFO.(derailing)

No. 2500032

>>2499812
God forbid I dont want to get some dudes jollies off by assuming hes a woman, which is what some of them want by posting here. Stop nitpicking the words nonnies use and respond to the post itself.(derailing)

No. 2500048

Didn't realize sharing that I have an oldweb small personal website on the oldweb small personal website thread would elicit so many "responses"

>>2498484
It's mostly to gather all the projects I create in one place without worrying about being banned or deleted at random or the ui changing or ads, anything modern internet, and is for my voice acting, music, coding, gaming, fashion, and cats. Technically the cats are their own separate part of the site, and I just post cat photos, nothing really created there, just a gallery. It's also a backup storage for my computer and three usbs of files. I've lost too much too many times.

No. 2500055

>>2500048
Thats cool, I've been thinking of self hosting on my own after the news of discord going public and the platform likely going downhill. It wasnt the smartest idea, but I used to use a personal server as an archive for content so I'd also like a back up where my content isn't nuked at the drop of a hat because of company changes. How much is maintenance for keeping a self-hosted site up and what services do you use? How easy would self-hosting be as a beginner to webdev (E.g. coming from a free hosting service like neocities/FC2)

No. 2500094

>>2500048
I'm not one of the anons who replied but your post just came off as pretentious.
Like yeah, 90% of people on this thread have personal websites, we have had many talks on how we selfhost and how we code, we don't post dA-tier on our sites either, etc etc. It felt like going to a supermarket and hearing someone screaming "I buy ingredients and cook my own meals for your information" kek
We all make mistakes though. It would've better if you just mentioned what you have just said about your website.

No. 2500128

>>2498658
You're still tardraging over basic grammar? Comical.(baiting)

No. 2500135

>>2500094
agree, youre not obligated to give advice and mentor others but it certainly wouldve came off as less pretentious if you just described what you self hosted in the first place and the things you like about it.

No. 2500249

>>2496646
I was always under the assumption that the issue with neocities (the reason it gets memed on) was the amount of users that care about aesthetic rather than content ?

No. 2500360

>>2500055
Well I'm not an expert on every hosting service but in my experience different hosts are more or less reliable, have better support, and different prices. You would pay for a yearly plan depending on how much space you need for content and visitors, so a small site could use a small plan. Then you renew it. Domains can usually be purchased through the same host or connected through a different one, it's advisable to get protection with that so your information isn't displayed in the database. Domain prices vary but there are some very cheap options. You can also change this yearly or have more than one domain that leads to your site. I think big bames like google buy up every google. domain.

To create the site you create files. Your pages can be coded with extensions and uploaded in the main folder. It takes a day or two and it's online. I think in general your own host gets you a lot more space than a free host, and they cannot just delete your site at random. If you change hosts they can even transfer your site over.

If you really want to try it you can come back with questions and I'll try to help you out.

>>2500094
You're perhaps putting too much thought into it

No. 2502980

>>2500360
nta, but you did sound pretentious in your first message kek. Maybe it read differently in your head because you understood your tone while we're not privvy to said intent etc etc but not a big deal. I've been wanting to self-host, but I've been waiting until I've amassed enough content to justify it in my head as a paranoid poorfag. At least in terms of content with enough wrongthink to actually worry about my standing with my current host. My only solace is that the domain I intend to buy is cheap and unlikely to be taken anytime soon

No. 2503763

i said i don't like identity ideology on my site. hopefully i won't get harrassed by a pack of seething trannies?

No. 2503766

>>2503763
People (read: tifs) are non-confrontational in this sphere. If you're on neocities at most you'll get blocked. I've been open about disliking troon shit for years now and in these 5 years I got maybe 2-3 hate messages in my guestbook and one angry email.

No. 2503783

With the guestbook site I’ve been using going down, what’s a good alternative for guestbooks on neocities?

No. 2503851

>>2500360
>You're perhaps putting too much thought into it
nta but they were right

No. 2503972

>>2503783
I replaced my guestbook with cbox, which is a live chatbox on the page but functions pretty much the same way as a guestbook would. ive gotten more messages this way, but they tend to be more frivolous than an actual guestbook so YMMV.

No. 2504006

>>2502980
Pretentious is a perception and it says a lot about the people perceiving it. Most people are not saying anything about others personally yet if someone has an insecurity and hyperfocused on it they see it everywhere. It isn't about them but they assume it is and go from there.

Hm maybe you could keep the free hosting and try a domain for a year and see how you like it? I'm sure you can direct the domain to neocities or wherever you host.

No. 2504114

>>2504006
Pretentiousness isn't always based in insecurity, though everything can indeed be read neutrally or with intent. That anon's comment lacked context and was understandably perceived as stating something different to what most anons in here are already doing. Thus the perceived pretentiousness.

Digression aside and to keep this on topic; something that I find saves me time is to create base templates for myself to work off of. I tend to make the same type of site (frame/sidebar with interior page, or some variation of that) and so being able to adjust the css and page contents and build for the individual site off of that both saves time and gives me freedom to play around a bit.

No. 2504217

>>2503766
My experience is the same. I just notice TIFs subtweet me on the activity feed but do nothing else. Most users don't read anything past the front page if your site is cute or aesthetic. NC has been the easiest community to fly under the radar.

No. 2504559

>>2503972
I had a cbox, but I had to close it because it was constantly spammed with rape threats. I suppose that’s what you invite when you have somewhere people can say things freely, but I still am annoyed. Do you know if there is any way to have an auto moderator or must I suffer?

No. 2505651

>>2503972
https://www.smartgb.com/ is basically the same as 123guestbook, so a lot of people switched to that. If you're paying to be a supporter, there's also https://virtualobserver.moe/ayano/comment-widget which lets you put comments on your site and can be pretty easily repurposed as a guestbook.

No. 2505978

File: 1746089521715.png (211.78 KB, 1089x666, fnf-update.png)

Federiefederi have removed their website from the Internet Archive and redirected their website to random YouTube videos.
https://crackworths.neocities.org/federiefederi

No. 2505980

>>2505978
Huh, that page was still active? I thought they deleted it for good after their 3rd attempt at follow-back schemes kek.
I don't know why they're so secretive about it to the point of requesting an I.Arch. removal either, didn't they make people use the NC status to ask then questions because the mods refused to list emails or make a guestbook for "privacy"?

No. 2505994

>>2505980
Their Neocities was deleted for good but they still had https://federiefederi.love. Of course they couldn't do f4f schemes there. I'm more surprised that they're still active even if they're not doing anything in particular.

No. 2506143

>>2504559
Use atabook, it has banned keywords and stuff like that
https://atabook.org/

No. 2506189

>>2505978
this is old news, but i hope the feds grew up after this.

No. 2506191

have been working on my website a ton recently and i saw a lot of people recommend a website called foollovers for resources, but it seems to be down?

No. 2506445

>>2506191
It's up for me right now. Must have been a temporary outage or something

No. 2506624

File: 1746136178172.png (10.44 KB, 149x67, nekoweb.png)

>>2506143
no thanks

No. 2506636

>>2506191
The site goes down for a bit from time to time, look it up in a day or so. In the wrost case, maybe its pages were saved in Internet Archive so you can look it up.
It's one of my go-to places, the marerials are super cute and I love her (?) templates, I tend to take inspiration out of them super often.

No. 2506646


No. 2506647

>>2506624
lol what is that?

No. 2506741

>>2506624
why are you such a hater

No. 2506784

>>2506741
Get outta here tourist

No. 2506833

>>2506741
nekoweb looks like it's one gendie meltdown away from a massive data leak. piss off lmao

No. 2506990

>>2506741
>>2506143
why are gendietards shilling their shit here

No. 2506992

>>2506990
imageboards are cool and edgy and oldweb vibes, didn't you hear? you can even say retard here, just like all those tiktoks said!

No. 2507043

File: 1746162865212.jpg (90.59 KB, 686x536, nekoweb18.jpg)

>>2506624
Fuck off gendie stop shilling your troonshit here. Go back to larping as an imageboard user on 4chan. I'm so sick of nekoweb tranny children namedropping LC for cool points.

No. 2507044

>>2507043
>lolcow is on the same level and worse than the pedochans
troon misogyny is so obvious

No. 2507053

>>2507043
It's so hard not to pray on all of their downfalls. Truly insufferable

No. 2507058

>>2507043
so weird when they just openly admit to getting groomed online into being a tranny like that isnt really telling

No. 2507060

>>2507058
of course he thinks hes a puppy. all of these troons entire identity come from a agp starter pack

No. 2507203

File: 1746184690635.jpg (555.87 KB, 1080x891, 1000013149.jpg)

>>2507043
Eyeorb is a cringe retard anyways
>>2507044
Of course, didn't you know that farmers are 1000x worse than actual pedos and criminals because we don't suck nasty troon dick

No. 2507273

>>2507043
>the site that hosts cp/gravure idol, threads about consuming women, and creepshots of women is worse than the site that criticizes trannies
mask off moment right there

No. 2507316

>>2507273
Yeah, I find people here insufferable at times, but the way they think some catty women are worse than actual nazis (laughing at the "users are either nazis or trans" remark, don't you think anything about that big overlap, hm? Or do you need someone else to tell yoy want to think about that as well?), pedophiles and doxxers says everything I need about trons and their supporters. LC isn't even centered around "twansphobia", we just don't think a man in a dress is a woman, 90% of threads aren't even about them. I wonder if these people even checked this site out.
Anyways, this is another reason of why I prefer to keep most of my internet presence on my personal website, I couldn't stand being around these people for more than 4 minutes.

No. 2507346

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>>2507203
Eyeorb seething at lc is particularly hilarious because she loves mentioning how she goes on/cgl/ yet doesn't know why /cgl/ went to shit in the first place, nor that it's what ended up spawning LC. Alas, she was in diapers when that actually happened kek

No. 2508014

whenb will i be famous(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 2508411

>>2464526
another bitching: i hate when people have a ton of super fast moving marquees on their page, what an ugly overstimulating eyesore

No. 2508968

>>2508411
I used to really like them when I was younger but I grew out of it, I guess. I still like my website to be very active to look at, but I treat it more as an art piece than anything else.

No. 2509327

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(context?)

No. 2509358

>>2509327
Thank you for sharing

No. 2509411

File: 1746302452959.jpg (30.63 KB, 1024x653, 1000013123.jpg)

Nonnas who only use FC2 sitehosting, why? The selling points on the front page seem kinda lackluster aside from the 1gb capacity. I want to host my site there though so I can have both a blog and a site in one place. Is there anything else about it that's good?

No. 2509414


No. 2509578

>>2509411
Back when I used it was to get away from Neocities' follower count. You can avoid the social features via disabling your profile but it was too late for me already as too many people had followed by then.
Having a free host with no social media-esque numbers was what I was looking for. I dislike knowing I have children looking at my site as well kek.

No. 2509580

>>2509411
Peace and quiet. Pretty blog layouts. I like that it's very simple. I don't recall what still exists but they used to have a lot of other features you could add to your blog.

I've used it since 2008.

No. 2510212

the fact that there's so many women identifying as trannies on smallweb and largeweb social media sites like tumblr twitter etc just goes to show that most of these people are retarded teenagers (or mentally teenagers) looking for attention and validation for being different. being a tranny now is like being emo when i was growing up.
>>2509578
there's nothing inherently wrong with the profile features of neocities. if you don't care about it you can ignore it and leave it on just so your site gets more traction. if you care that much you can disable it, even if you already have followers.

No. 2510284

>>2509411
Honestly there's not much advantage to using FC2 Web over Neocities other than free FTP access, which I find better than a drag-and-drop feature. If you want to have a blog and site in one place, I'd say go for it.

No. 2510298

>>2509411
I like that the sites been around for a while so if you make a site/blog it feels real old web, that's kind of it really. Also having an fc2 account lets you make imageboards, forums, video streaming etc it's surprisingly useful

No. 2510361

>>2510212
Yeah that's why I wrote in past tense, I left for NC and Fc2 for another host (she kindly let me host there for free, so I can use my pwn domain, PHP and all that jazz).
I don't care much about traction, I prefer autistics who find my site due to linkages than random zoomers that will look at your homepage for 5 seconds and leave. So NC wasn't giving me anything of value outside being able to find other sites easily, plus I dislike Kyle and don't want to participate on his personal project kek.
To each his own, that's why there's variety.

No. 2510366

>>2510298
Are there any decent active fc2 forums? I abandoned my account because what I found looked dead.

No. 2510476

File: 1746363118331.jpeg (17.87 KB, 178x270, IMG_9836.jpeg)

Yume nonas what do you think of waifu.ist? I've been considering making a site on there but a friend told me kiwifags lurk it to mock the users so I'm not sure. Have you tried it and gotten any kind of attention from them? Anyone know any safer alternatives where, like fc2, it's hard for someone to find you on their own?

No. 2510484

>>2510476
>caring what kiwifats think
Grim, but if it matters that much to you just host your shrine on an alternative like you mentioned, neocities or FC2. I think you should just embrace the unbothered yume life though.

No. 2510486

>>2510476
Most of the sites are just empty to claim their character which I found disappointing. Surprisingly, my husbando does have one but it's empty and a troon made it. I'm planning on making two shrines, one for just him that I'll have a mirror of on waifu.ist that won't link back to my site and one exclusively on my site that is for me x him. Yumes are mocked by everyone though, even fellow farmers. Don't worry about it and just be free.

No. 2510899

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apparently atabook has ads now kekk, i checked dimdens and they're there too so it's for everyone. this is gonna go over well

No. 2511479

drink every time a "queer" webmaster waxes poetic in their website manifesto about how websites should have accessibility features. do people seriously care this much about making their site "not ableist" (lol. lmao, even) or is this another form of virtue signalling?

No. 2511480

>>2511479
i dont get how a website can even have accessibility issues besides tiny ass fonts and autoplay music which is annoying to everybody regardless of disability. and you can just zoom the tab in and mute it so even then.. I think the worst thing you can do for your site is have garrish eyerape neon colors everywhere, i see a lot of younger people do this and its so fucking bad and cant even be worked around

No. 2511489

>>2510484
>kiwifats

KEK

No. 2511493

>>2511480
basically according to these people websites should all have standard boring layouts that can easily work on mobile dynamically, high contrast, alt text on every image (lmao fuck off), basic fonts, day and night mode, and a slew of other boxes to tick to make sure you are not being ableist on your personal site. i hope these people are actively deterred from my site.

No. 2511494

>>2511479
>wants the personal web back with no personalization
>reinvents modern social media
I will literally never get this. I make my own site usable on my phone because it's convenient, but that's it.

No. 2511508

>>2510476
>no ponies allowed
Off to a good start kek
>b-but what if kiwifags make fun of me??
Every single poster on KF is a drooling retard, and the site is just edgy Reddit.

No. 2511522

>>2511479
Either they know people who have vision/hearing problems irl or are virtue signalling, but 90% of the time it's probably the latter.

No. 2511735

>>2511479
I think it's mostly virtue signaling. I understand accessibility if your site is a resource or educational tool so as many people can access it as possible, but personal sites aren't a public service like Google or Craigslist. I never understood how these people can complain about capitalism and how everything needs to be a smartphone app but in the same breath demand personal sites made for fun need to be mobile friendly, readable in every window size, use a certain font for dyslexic people, and give alt tag descriptions for every image. Like this isn't my job lmao

No. 2511772

>>2511735
>use a certain font for dyslexic people
I fucking hate when they shill that ugly ass OpenDyslexic font. I have a little typography autism and also read about accessible web design on occasion and the few times that font has been tested in a controlled setting, it didn't even improve reading rate or accuracy regardless of if the person even had dyslexia in the first place. As far as I can tell wrt to the font itself (not the color/size/background/etc), familiarity with the font is the main thing that helps readability, so I'd respect the virtue signaling more if they were trying to brow beat people into using Times New Roman or Arial (especially the former because it makes a webpage look more oldweb imo), but no. They don't actually give a shit about this stuff beyond surface level shit tiktok's algorithm probably tossed at them the other day.
It's 1000% virtue signaling, they always talk about surface level stuff like contrast and font size and never stuff like ARIA labels, good HTML semantics, and keyboard accessibility that matter way more for disabled users in that those are things that are harder to deal with on the user end (plenty of devices/extensions can natively increase font size and color contrast for example, but you just have to deal with poorly labeled links if you're using a screen reader). Gendies crowing about accessible websites is one of those perfect crossroads of slacktivism (because it's so obvious they're not putting that much thought and effort into their websites) and ignorance that gets me disproportionately mad every time kek

No. 2511827

>>2511479
It is definitely just virtue signaling. A huge part of my job is ensuring our website is compliant with accessibility guidelines (to prevent lawsuits), so I can say with absolute confidence most of them don't even make their sites accessible and haven't done any research beyond basic color contrast ratios. It is embarrassing that people whose websites are held together with tape and glue think they are the arbiters of accessibility, which requires a much more thorough understanding of HTML than they have. Honestly, I find Neocities attracts a lot of hardcore virtue signallers with a "not like other zoomers" superiority complex.

No. 2512359

>>2510899
they've already been removed; if you would actually keep up with services, rather than harking on them like vultures; you would learn it was a test run to see if they were useful.

No. 2512428

>>2512359
The dimden defence force is here. Stop whiteknighting your discord daddy at every chance you get it's obvious.

No. 2512511

>>2511493
My website is mobile friendly but that’s because I like it to be. I use my iPad on it often and most people I share it to view it on phones, it makes sense. But when I see people harassing others for being “ableist” what on earth are you on about!? It’s not the end of the world that some website doesn’t fit on the phone! I swear some people go through websites on neocities just to complain on guestbooks to feel superior. Every time I see a website manifesto like that I mentally save the webmaster as a retard.

Also, as somebody with a huge ass art gallery I sure as hell am not labelling alt text on all of that.

No. 2512713

is there some kind of dogwhistle for easily finding and identifying anons on personal sites? i'm so sick of teenager/tranny/genderspecial sites

No. 2512730

>>2512713
Sounds like a gendie honeypot post but really, women who don't use pronouns or a million troon flag graphics

No. 2513181

I made my site using the help of DeepSeek, is that okay? I'm afraid someone will discover that i did so even though i also worked a lot on my code.

No. 2513222

>>2512713
Just read their about pages and links? I don't understand why nonnies are asking to be spoonfed instead of just looking like in the old internet days.

No. 2513282

File: 1746547437981.png (11.76 KB, 984x104, uglywomenwithtoomuchtimeonthei…)

>>2512448
Looks like I struck a nerve. Jumping at the first opportunity to call an anonymous poster ugly, typical troon bootlicker that thinks women's worth is based in their appearance kek. At least call me a retard.

>>2513181
To most people in the smallweb community using AI to make your site is cringe. I haven't bothered proompting in a long while so my knowledge on this is most definitely outdated, take what I said with a grain of salt. AI tends to overcomplicate or do unnecessary things that will be obvious to people that know how to handcraft sites or code in general. It can be decent for helping with one specific task e.g. "help me animate this picture in a specific way" and with some math and logic related areas, but if you prompt it to make you a website from scratch it can be obvious it's AI. Chances of someone f12ing your site in detail are pretty low but not zero.

No. 2513291

>>2512448
>>2513282
Kekkkk TRAs will never beat the sexist allegations. Why are YOU lurking here if you have such a problem with others lurking your shitass nekotroon discord server

No. 2513370

>>2513282
Thanks for the reply, are people still able to see it if i changed the base AI code quite a lot? I'm confused about what could be different in a code that is only divs and images kek.

No. 2513372

>>2513181
I dont think anybody would gaf even if you used ai for the whole thing, i see whole websites (usually by kids) with spaghetti code all the time. since you only used ai partially i doubt its even noticable. it is kinda cheating but if you dont care about coding (besides for making your website obvs) then its not like youre missing out on anything

No. 2513454

>>2513181
>>2513370
Who is gonna stop you? I don't understand why people keep asking permission to do things on their own personal site. What are you afraid of, some teenager with shitty copy pasted code and seizure inducing marquees leaving snide remarks in your guestbook? Just do whatever you want instead of fretting over what the council of the smallweb finds permissible. Be free.

No. 2513522

File: 1746556010195.jpg (21.21 KB, 736x736, 1742136814621.jpg)

>>2513181
I don't get this. If you aren't going to code your website yourself, use a website builder. There's tons of them nowadays, just pick your favorite. You don't have to shit up Neocities some more with AI code.
>buh but i wanna use html! it's just sooooo hard2lern!!!
HTML is, objectively, one of the easiest languages to learn. It's markup ffs. It wouldn't even take more than a day to learn the basics if you tried. When in doubt literally just google it, guaranteed someone has already asked the same question on stackexchange or written an entire tutorial about it. W3Schools exists for a reason. If you need a jumping-off point, Neocities literally provides basic templates and there's tons of free HTML layouts you can find by googling. Hell you can even copy other people's sites.

No. 2513526

>>2513522
I just used AI code as a base, i haven't used it for my whole website. I did code, just not the base. And what exactly am i shitting up? AI code brings problems to the site? If so, i didn't knew, i'm sorry.

No. 2513555

>>2513181
I read a book to make the barebones parts and double checked it with chatgpt. And then I still have issues.
It's probably tied to the Javascript file that linked to it overriding some code but it's not formatted for people so it's a long string of nonsense

No. 2513559

>>2513181
>>2513526
nta but are you new to site building? Like other anons have said, nobody is going to stop you. But, if you are learning to code or looking to get better, then ultimately you are making it harder for yourself, because you are not learning how to build those frameworks and functions from the start, you're not building up simple skills that are the foundations of more complicated ones that will be needed down the line. Plus, a lot of people say it actually takes them longer to clean up generated code than to write from scratch, or edit borrowed code.
I think taking AI-generated code and unfucking it can be a fun skillbuilding activity, like for finding errors and etc, but I don't think it's a good base to start from in most cases, you're just kneecapping yourself right out of the gate. Making a site for fun is supposed to be fun. Why are you doing it if you don't even like it? You know?

No. 2513566

>>2513559
I'm doing it mostly as a visual thing rather than specifically for coding, if that makes sense? I like designing the website. I'm an extreme noob when it comes to site building, yes. I'm not exactly an html hater, just not very interested in coding, to be honest. But i will try nonetheless because my site has a specific goal that i want to achieve.

No. 2513956

>>2513181
I made my website initially years before ai coding was a thing, but as I return to it for updates I used that little ChatGPT helper they put in vscode.

I think, if you explain in detail your issue, and give it the “context” of your code it’s pretty good at helping troubleshoot. I haven’t had any problems so far. I do think it’s important to study alongside using it so you know what it’s spitting out though.

Sometimes when I’m super lazy and can’t be fucked I get it to type basic programming I know how to do kek.

No. 2514078

File: 1746583641466.png (10.9 KB, 528x92, w3c.png)

>>2513555
>>2513956
did everyone just collectively forget about w3c. god damn you do not need to use ai for this

No. 2514170

>>2513181
What are they going to do if you are "found out"? No need to be so paranoid. If it makes you feel so guilty, then don't use AI to code and look into templates and tutorials.

No. 2514424

>>2514078
Thank you for saying this…. Every resource that existed up until this point hasn't ceased to exist. There's even WYSIWYG editors and programs out there for this.



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