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No. 2426717

Discuss the happenings, drama, cringe, etc. of Neocities, personal sites, webrings, and other small communities, and how they used to be in the past.

Other possible topics of discussion:
>personal sites vs social media profiles
>creating shrines and fanlistings
>joining webrings and cliques
>how socializing on the internet has changed


Previous threads
thread #4: >>>/ot/2139249
thread #3: >>>/ot/1914925
thread #2: >>>/ot/1520815
thread #1: >>>/ot/1320546

Search for personal/non-comercial sites:
https://search.marginalia.nu/
https://wiby.me/
https://www.oldavista.com/
https://anilinks.neocities.org/

HTML/Web help:
https://www.w3schools.com/
https://htmldog.com/
https://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/index.html
https://tinytools.directory/
https://brackets.io/

No. 2426822

i dont' like that the threadpic is about trannies. we have multiple tranny hate and male hate containment threads ; can we have some threads that exist without making us think about them?

No. 2426838

>>2426822
just hide the picture if you yourself don't like it so much. this is the "old web" thread, you should know by now you're going to encounter things online you don't like. trannys are everywhere, including neocities and they're louder about it than that picture will ever be. it's literally a point of discussion in every thread. are you new? it's a comic of a cute cat, you don't have to read it or even look at it, no ones making you think about anything. it's not like the threads you mentioned are meant to be containment threads: men are not welcome here

No. 2426858

>>2426822
then talk about something else related to oldweb in this thread? it's the threadpic because its a meme someone made in the last thread, it isn't that deep

No. 2426889

>>2426822
I'm sad the old thread filled up while I was asleep because I made a little drawing for the new one's treadpic and was excited to make it kek
(I made the last thread, so I had hopes I could create this one roo)

No. 2426890

>>2426889
Post it and we can make it the threadpic for the next thread, it's not like this is the last thread ever

No. 2426905

>>2426890
It's gonna take about half a year for this one to fill up kek.

No. 2426922

>>2426838
>>2426858
continue talking 24/7 and being obsessed with what you "hate" yeah that's perfect(derailing)

No. 2426946

>>2426922
anon i understand you're not that bright but you are literally the one trying to continue the discussion. you replied to someone asking you to "talk about something else" and you're resorting to making baseless assumptions and trying to derail the thread further because you seem to be hurt that we don’t cater to trannies feelings here. i don't know why you assume the posts you're replying to indicate that someone is obsessed with trannies 24/7. hide the thread and move on. you obviously didn’t spend any time in the previous threads. lurk more and get a grip, please

No. 2426971

Would I get banned on neocities for some of my hot takes? I'm neither radical nor liberal but my takes might get me into hot water either way.

No. 2426981

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>>2426971
neocities doesn’t ban people for talking about whatever they want. provided you aren’t spamming the site (like divcel) or directly threatening people, you should be fine.

No. 2427077

>>2426971
Dont do anything illegal under US law and turn off your neocities comments + guestbook and you should be golden. most neocities users dont look at sites beyond the index anyways

No. 2427219

>>2426971
There's multiple "offensive" sites hosted on NC, as long as it isn't doxxing someone or against the US law they won't do anything. Most users won't either because text-heavy sites are ignored in favor for aesthetics, but I suggest turning off comments like >>2427077 suggested anyway.

No. 2427253

>>2426889
You should post the image regardless so someone else can take note of it in the future; if you're unavailable again when the thread fills someone else can use the picture. I would hate for your efforts to go to waste after all

No. 2427508

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>>2426971
The only site I know of that got removed for being offensive was a site that just spammed the n word over and over. So don't do anything troll like that and you'll be fine. It's possible that you may eventually get shadowbanned if enough people block you, but that's pretty unlikely. Most neocities users are teens that can't read anyway. If you're shadowbanned, you can still post but your site won't show up in the global activity feed and you can't comment on strangers' profiles

No. 2427740

any good small homepage style sites with a functioning web builder? i am a visual thinker and don't want to update code every time i want to add a cute picture. god i miss geocities.

No. 2427795

>>2427740
The SeaMonkey web browser has a built-in website editor similar to MS Word, but it doesn't have any CSS styling features built into it. So it's great if you want to go for an authentic 90s website look, but it's kind of horrible for everything else.
Alternatively, there's phcode.io (successor to brackets.io) which is basically an open source version of Adobe Dreamweaver. It won't let you drag and drop images onto your webpage, but it should hopefully making coding websites less painful.

No. 2427963


No. 2428184

>>2426691
>Unrelated, but has anyone else had issues with neocities' global activity feed? For some reason, my site will sometimes not show up when I update it, or it will appear hours later. I'm not shadowbanned or anything, so I don't know what the issue is.
Global feed will only show your website if more than 24 hours have passed since the last update, and I noticed that isn't synced with the profile feed that follows a similar rule. Maybe it's actually more than 24 hours for the global feed, but I'm not 100% sure.
Speaking of shadowbans, I noticed I'm partially shadowbanned, I can't comment of profiles of people that don't follow me, but global feed shows my updates. The last time I checked I was blocked by around 30 something sites.

No. 2428307

>>2428184
What'd you do to get blocked by so many? I'm guessing being anti troon?

No. 2428340

>>2428184
How can check how many people blocked you?

No. 2428575

>>2428184
I know about the 24 hr wait. There will be several days or even weeks between updates and my site won't show up in the global feed until a few hours later. It's weird because it'll eventually pop up where it should be chronologically in the feed, it just won't be there initially. It's not that big of a deal, just kind of weird

No. 2428954

>>2428307
I've been on neocities for a while coupled with that.

>>2428340
I'm not sure if there's an easier way of checking but for example I would open page 400 of the most followed sites while logged into my account and then I'd open the same page on a private browser tab where I'm not logged in. Then I would take a look at what the first site is on the page where I'm logged in, and I'd try to find that site on the page where I'm not logged in. For example if that page is now on spot 10 that means 9 pages blocked you because when someone blocks you their page is not visible in the browse feature of neocities. That way you can figure out the number of sites that blocked you, but not exactly which ones. To figure out which sites exactly you'd have to do a lot of cross referencing.
I did this about six months ago so I don't know if Kyle changed anything with how algorithms work since then.

>>2428575
I haven't been keeping track of Kyles changes but what I can tell you is that before he changed how global activity works, the feed always had some randomness to it. If you refreshed it you would get a different pick of sites that updated recently from the pool of recently updated sites. After the update I thought he swapped to pure chronological listing of updated pages that satisfy certain requirements like view count, followers and site age but maybe there's still some randomness in how the pages and status updates get displayed.

No. 2429014

>>2428954
Yeah there must be some sort of randomness. I guess I'll just blame Kyle kek. I'm still mad that he added comments to the global feed

No. 2431587

>>2428954
>I'm not sure if there's an easier way of checking but for example I would open page 400 of the most followed sites while logged into my account and then I'd open the same page on a private browser tab where I'm not logged in. Then I would take a look at what the first site is on the page where I'm logged in, and I'd try to find that site on the page where I'm not logged in. […]

That is super convoluted and time consuming. I know for a fact I'm blocked by some people because I can't view their profile and saw passive aggressive status updates about my content on the activity feed before, but I don't care enough to find the exact numbers.

No. 2431639

>>2428954
How do you have the time to do this

No. 2431718

>>2431639
NTAYRT but it takes about 30 seconds to open two tabs and compare the position of a single site

No. 2431723

>>2431639
The explanation is convoluted but as the anon above me said, it's just opening two tabs and counting a few spaces it's really not that hard kek

No. 2431726

>>2431639
No offense, but how did what that ayrt described sound time consuming at all?

No. 2431889

>>2431726
Probably because she found out she was blocked by 30 people by doing this on every page in the most followed sites feed…

No. 2431933

>>2431889
you don't have to check every page. just skip to the last one on both tabs and look at the difference.

No. 2432100

>>2431889
As much as I'm curious that would take too much time and writing some kind of a browser script would be better to do at that point. Once I figured out how it worked I checked the first few pages though, naturally.

No. 2432323

>>2432100
>would rather write an entire browser script than open two tabs and compare two numbers
Maybe this just me being a dinosaur who had to deal with how unwieldy the web was years ago, but I can't imagine being this lazy. Especially when you're paradoxically putting in way more work than you would have otherwise.

No. 2432391

>>2432323
Some of us know how to code.

No. 2435215

Be thankful for lazy programmers. They've automated a lot of stuff that we used to have to do manually.

No. 2435402

>>2432391
Get used to being shamed by the self-professed feminists in this thread.

No. 2435581

>>2435402
who cares?

No. 2437485

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apparently vashti already got herself a binder. i wonder how long this larp is gonna last until she realises troon shit won't save her

No. 2437506

>>2437485
how miserable…

No. 2437538

>>2437485
The fact that this happened on March 8th makes it even more depressing

No. 2438032

>>2437485
This Ivy girl is 100% an enabler.

No. 2439649

>>2437485
and within 48 hours she's got an entry on her calendar complaining about chest pain, it would be funny if it weren't so sad

No. 2440158

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this is bizarre, right? why is ivy posting if vashti is just going to comment under it?

No. 2440180

>>2440158
Why am I getting the vibe Ivy is a sockpuppet? I thought they were online friends but she manages to have access to Vashti's account…?

No. 2440236

>>2440180
Because this is exactly how sockpuppets are used when not brigading someone. They play dolls.

No. 2440253

>>2440158
Oh, she's a schizo kek

No. 2440299

>>2440253
Or playing dolls

No. 2440429

>>2440253
i mean, given her ramblings in her calendar relating to religion it wouldnt surprise me if she was schizo.

No. 2440454

>>2440180
I guess it's possible Vashti gave Ivy her account password. They seem weirdly enmeshed, but the sockpuppet theory is way funnier. I did think it was odd that their sites are so similar. I just figured Ivy was copying Vashti

No. 2440662

ugh, smartgb is so bloody annoying. i just tried to comment on someone's because i really liked their site, and it kept hitting me with an error and temp. suspended me for having a link in my message which is strange since i didn't even use a period in it at all. i was thinking of using their service to replace my old guestbook but now i'm not so keen– any nonnies have a good alternative?

No. 2441873

>>2440180
Same here, I’m sort of getting a DID larp vibe from it lmao. Their sites are so similar too.

No. 2442286

>>2440662
I use ultraguest but for some reason it hasnt been loading since yesterday

No. 2442626

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>>2437485
>>2438032
From loneliwish/"Ivy's" diary. If this diary is real, this person is more than just an enabler. I feel bad for Vashti.

No. 2442902

>>2442626
So is "Ivy" a MTF if these posts are talking about being mistaken for gay and a girl? I thought Vashti was trooning so she could be "straight" with this girl, but I think she's being groomed by a man instead now…

No. 2443009

>>2442626
great find anon. jesus. explains why he's ripping off Vashti's style (it's clear he didn't write like that before kek)… all mtfs know how to do is skinwalk

No. 2447669

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I was thinking of making my own neocities page but the thought of sharing webrings with bpdchans and other assorted ddlg types seems bleak

No. 2447684

>>2447669
Just don't join a webring then, and you can turn your site profile off too.

No. 2447704

>>2447684
I know. I just wish there was somewhere to interact with other users of similar interests but nearly everyone (non-gendie) I’ve encountered enjoys documenting their monthly manic episodes. It really is no different than social media.

No. 2447710

>>2447704
what are your interests, anon?
I think you should do it anyway. maybe you haven't found any sites with owners that seem similar to you, but when you make your own, all the people similar to you will be able to find you. they can't do that if you're not putting yourself out there!

No. 2448203

>>2447704
nona just make your page, like someone else said there’s no obligation to join webrings or listings etc. and if you want to get in touch with someone whose site you admire send an email or post in their guestbook? it’s really not that hard to communicate with likeminded people

No. 2448395

>>2447669
Then don't? There's nothing forcing you to interact with bpdchans or join webrings.

No. 2448773

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>>2447669
Just do it, you don't have to join a webring in order to socialize with other webmasters, just read their pages and reach out directly via email.
You can also try reaching out through fan listings or cliques if they have the members list displayed. If you really wish to have a social media aspect to your a personal webpage, you can interact with webmasters via the activity tab (though I generally avoid it because I go on neocities to avoid social media type interactions)

I dont see the issue of joining a webring that have gendies/tards in it unless the webrings is retarded/gendie oriented in the first place or is ran by a tard. It's not like a discord server where you're on a first-name basis with other members, you just happen to be in a "digital club" with members that all like the same thing.

No. 2449685

This is going to be oddly specific but do neocities websites allow hosting an rpg maker game?
I've only seen the option of web being a thing on RPG Maker MV settings but never understood how it worked. I'd like to make a neocities web page with a game on it if it is possible.

No. 2449727

>>2449685
It should be pretty easy, I believe RPG Maker allows you to export a game to HTML, and from there it's just a matter of uploading the HTML folder to neocities which I hear is a bit of a pain in the ass, but idk if you want to use the CLI tool: https://neocities.org/cli

No. 2449784

File: 1742272983879.gif (7.37 KB, 471x238, netartdiagram.gif)

do any nonas like net art? https://anthology.rhizome.org/ has some really great examples from the 80s through to the current era. looking through these has been really inspiring for building my own website.
i feel like a lot of smallweb sites these days are really same-y, and don't try to explore the creative possibilities of html, css, and javascript. even the ones with cool art and backgrounds or whatever are all basically the same box layouts, with the same generic blog/about/shrine contents. it's a shame, because it essentially turns your website into a glorfied socmed page. i think the whole point of having a website over a twitter or whatever else is the ability to break out of those predefined boxes.

No. 2450124

>>2449784
I like your idea anon but you don't have to debase someone's passions and form of self expression to get your point across.

No. 2450177

>>2448773
their faces look like kanjis hehe

No. 2450179

>>2450124
I was with anon until that. My site isn't an abstract art project and doesn't have to be museum quality when it's text heavy.

No. 2450182

>>2450124
What? How did anon "debase someone's passions" by talking about her own love for net art?

No. 2450184

>>2450182
>i feel like a lot of smallweb sites these days are really same-y, and don't try to explore the creative possibilities of html, css, and javascript.
>it's a shame, because it essentially turns your website into a glorfied socmed page.

No. 2450318

>>2450124
>"I personally think it's boring and uncreative"
>"you're debasing their passions!!!"
kek what. It's not like that anon was making fun of them… did she strike a nerve

No. 2450397

>>2450124
>>2450179
sorry nonas, i didn't mean to imply that those kinds of layouts are bad or anything. just that i wish there was more variety in the smallweb/neocities scene.

No. 2450465

>>2450397
That's a normal want to have, especially when the majority of Neocities sites are empty. Be the change you want to see nona and I'm sure you'll inspire others to break the mold too.

No. 2450476

How much information/images/pages/stuff can a neocities site hold? What's the limit? Is their a limit where pased a certain threshold it's pay instead of free?

No. 2450486

>>2450476
a free site has a 1gb max which is quite a bit if you compress your photos, etc. otherwise, you can pay $5/month and get 50gb and be able to upload whatever file types you want

No. 2450487

>>2450476
If you optimize your content well and don't over-bloat your page with unnecessary assets, you should be able to make a sizeable amount of content within the 1GB limit. Many people who use neocities have claimed to hardly reach beyond 90% of the space limit. Its very generous though if you some how manage to meet the size threshold you are unable to upload/rename/change files until you free up space or upgrade to the supporter status (50GB of space)

No. 2450627

>>2449784
>try to explore the creative possibilities of html, css, and javascript

You'll catch hell for doing that too. Just do what you want and don't worry about what anybody else thinks.

No. 2450875

>>2449784
>with the same generic blog/about/shrine contents. it's a shame, because it essentially turns your website into a glorfied socmed page.
if you would rather make an art piece than a personal website you should totally go for it, but people have been making websites dedicated to their lives/hobbies since the beginning. it's silly to call that glorified social media.

No. 2453129

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from vashti's new dream page, found among complaints of not being able to take T yet and other bizarre nonsensical dream shit. somehow i wouldnt be surprised if this dream was true to life and this ivy troon has a flash drive full of porn

No. 2455419

Just a small vent. I hate losing my motivation and leaving incomplete pages. There was a time when I didn't put anything public until it was finished, but my site ended dead, so I switched to putting pages in public and kept working on them. But now I have two big pages I can't finish or progress with the content, mainly text.

No. 2455645

>>2455419
who cares about a "dead website" I have waited upwards of months to years for a site update and haven't minded it at all. Working on your website shouldn't be an obligation unless you have a brand or franchise to promote at a regular basis.

No. 2456941

>>2455419
What do you mean by "dead" though? Do you lose NC followers or do the lack of updates make it feel dead? You're not obligated to keep a content flow on a personal site, if you want to wait until a page is finished to publish, that's fine.

No. 2457313

>>2455419
I used to feel the same way but I realized that a personal site is never truly complete, it's always changing. I don't care when people I follow upload incomplete pages. So, why should I fret over posting WIPs when I'm fine with other people doing the same thing? Plus, it's fun to see how a page changes over time as things are added and modified. Just update at a pace that you can manage.

No. 2457757

File: 1742694386306.png (Spoiler Image,51.25 KB, 872x150, 8902241.png)

https://colllarr.neocities.org/about
neocities age player, must be a day that ends with y

No. 2457844

File: 1742698971503.png (52.64 KB, 851x612, disgusting.png)

>>2457757
Where do these people come from? Are they all grown in a lab?

No. 2457903

>>2457757
>left-wing liberal feminist
Kekkkk of course

No. 2457920

>>2457757
cant believe how boring somebody must be to make their whole existence their sexuality

No. 2457973

File: 1742712338686.png (19.86 KB, 365x392, kweer stuff.png)

>>2457757
kekkkk also
>forced straight
>queer stuff
why are spicy straights

No. 2458047

>>2457844
No, being a literal homunculus with no real parents would fit the fake trauma narratives they make up to justify their degeneracy. People like this just watch too much porn.
>>2457920
Show me one DDLG fetish freak with a personality outside of fucking ugly old men and bragging about it online. I'll wait.

No. 2458056

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>>2457757
>was kinky since she was a teenager
This girl was def groomed. That makes me angrier that she's perpetuating the cycle as a grown adult.

No. 2458494

>>2458056
tumblr autogrooming?

No. 2458500

>>2457920
these people are incapable of thinking beyond anything so they latch onto simple political and sexuality identifications

No. 2458534

>>2458056
This is just tumblr brainrot. women sucked up in disgusting baby larp fetishes for male approval

No. 2458588

>>2457973
Considering it's a liberal feminist type I'm going to assume
>forced straight: lesbians forced to have sex with men
>forced gay: straight men forced to have sex with gay men and straight women forced to have sex with a spicy bisexual self-insert

No. 2458594

>>2458588
There are genuinely a surprising amount of people (I think porn-brained) who view sex as "submission/dominance" so I think they view it as offensive when someone is claiming to be dominant over someone else. It sounds really stupid but I'm trying to make my brain into an animals to understand this in the first place

No. 2458644

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>>2458534
>when I talk about loving dad bods, that's real
>when I talk about horrific sexual torture it's obviously fiction only
>dubious consent, patriarchy, piss, pain, humiliation
Can you imagine not just being into this gross shit but having a whole website dedicated to it? Tumblr: not even once. The collar me daddy uwu shit is so kek. There's no way these people actually have any sex or love in their lives.

No. 2458750

>>2455645
It's just a personal letdown to neglect something that is my hobby and sit on these unborn or half-baked ideas.
>>2456941
Maybe dead was not the right word, it's not about followers, it's about being stuck creatively. And a little neurosis too kek.
>>2457313
Yeah I'm taking this approach because at least I'm able to see the progress and feel that my little project is moving.

>>2457757
>Fun fact: I'm one of those rare women who doesn't particulary care for foreplay; let's just get on with it!
We need a mk-ultra program but for pick mes.

No. 2459026

>>2457973
is pronoun play misgendering troons? now i can tell anyone who calls me a terf that it's kink shaming and there's nothing they can do to stop me. don't yuck my yum.

No. 2459484

>>2458594
not sure what that has to do with ayrt but don't call them animals kek, They get off on that

No. 2459902

>>2458644
>file name
KEK

No. 2460724

The sheer amount of troonery I've come across on neocities is disheartening

No. 2460731

>>2460724
it's why i don't browse the activity feed anymore or look for websites to follow. it's all zoomers who weren't actually around for oldweb so they do a poor job at attempting to emulate it. even when you go on a site that might visibly resemble an old personal webpage there is absolutely no avoiding all of the troon badges & the narcissistic about page listing off all of their special snowflake qualifications. it takes me out of it, it looks so modern because most of those retarded labels didn't even exist back then
it's how i'd like to imagine what some people might've felt when everyone was idolizing the 80's in the early 2000s. you had to be there or you missed the point. these people would have been laughed off the internet in ~2005. they can't recognize that because they're pretending to be nostalgic for something they clearly weren't around for. there are a handful outliers to this clear pattern, but that's a whole different discussion imo

No. 2460737

>>2142834
>Sadgirl layout
Examples?

No. 2460816

>>2460724
It feels like 90% of users are either a troon or a handmaiden. Trying to find a normal webmaster is like navigating a minefield. I recently followed back a site that seemed normal and like immediately after, they plastered their site with trans shit kek

No. 2460851

File: 1742883064143.png (302.62 KB, 1175x898, sadgrl.png)

>>2460737
these kinds of pages. they're all made with sadgrl/goblin-heart's old layout maker

No. 2460855

>>2460851
It looks like a colour blind or depressed teacher made this. It's kind of weird bc you already think of bodily functions or physical injury with gendies since that's all they talk about and then they choose excrement/bruising as their personal palette too. Truly "a world of pain"

No. 2461026

>>2460816
That's why I'm very grateful for the WOTI webring, even if you aren't interested on the sites there the sites each one links to are way more likely to be run by normal people, so it's good to find new pages.
I also like to go thru fanlistings, but sadly more often than not the people listed are either expired domains or collectives that don't mention their main site, so it's a bit hard/time consuming but I have found mormie sites like that as well.
I don't check NC in general anymore, both because I moved and because it sucks for finding new sites unfortunately. I just wish the sites I follow actually updated their "Update" section whenever they add stuff to their site, I keep missing stuff kek.

No. 2461190

the normie woman webring still has no new members kek, great decision to make it

No. 2461266

>>2461190
the last update on the yarns and peep site was around the time the webring was established so its definitely a honeypot all thing considered.

No. 2461788

>>2461190
I was planning to join once i actually make my website but I'm just too anxious to actually make it

No. 2461875

>>2461266
It's run by the same woman, lol.

No. 2462230

>>2461875
That doesn't make it less suspicious.

No. 2462408

>>2462230
A completely open source web ring is suspicious to you because it's updated around the same time as the website the admin's personal website is updated? It was hosted on GitHub pages. You're schizophrenic.

No. 2462440

>>2462408
It wasn't just updated around the same time the webring was updated, the website itself was created for the webring, around the same time it was established. These coincidences wouldn't be bad on its own but there's a bunch of red flags when combined together

No. 2462650

File: 1743010139282.gif (276.43 KB, 242x246, 1000015745.gif)

>>2462440
I dont get it. Red flags for what?

No. 2462702

>>2462650
Nta but red flags that suggest it's a honeypot made by a moid or troon

No. 2462734

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I'm a bit sad on how the normie webring turned out so nonas ITT what would you look for in a women only webring?
>Would you prefer it to be farmer-only or a general non-gendie women webring
>Would you like references to LC (pastures/farm themed) or would you prefer the theme to be completely irrelevant to the site.
>Would you prefer applications to be registration only or would you be comfortable with screening questions (in the case the webring is for farmers only)
I plan to spread the webring through word of mouth however the index will be public.

>>2462650
Some things I can think of from the top of my head, note that coincidences on their own aren't unreasonable, it becomes suspicious when combined.
>Hosted on github
Not unheard of for a woman to use however a majority of moids host on GitHub.
>Site was made around the same time the webring was established.
>Site has no images and barebones CSS
>Site theme is tradwife blogging
>Webring was posted on LC, its common knowledge that gendies and TRAs lurk this thread, it was setting the applicants up for harassment.
>As of creating this post the URL for the webring is inaccessible

No. 2462742

>>2462734
>As of creating this post the URL for the webring is inaccessible
Very interesting because I was looking at it just yesterday. Kind of disappointing that all the nonnies being angry about WOTI not being terf only didn't join it, despite the disagreements I wanted to see more based women out in the open in the smallweb circles.

No. 2462743

>>2462739
I certainly have no plans on making it normie only (its why I didn't apply for the initial webring kek) similar premise to WotI except no gendies allowed.

No. 2462744

>>2462734
Do you think such a webring wouldn't already be redundant and have overlapping members when WOTI exists? I feel like the community is too small to warrant its existence, but as long as you're making exactly what you want, you do you nona.

No. 2462749

>>2462744
Its why I suggested if a farmer adjacent webring would be preferable thats intended for webmasters who have GC views to seek like-minded sites but do not wish to sign up to an outright radfem/political webring. Common complaints about WotI is having to shift through actual women from the female gendies in the members list; it would probably be more convenient to have a ring that has zero tolerance for troon rhetoric so you don't accidentally become acquainted with a low-key TRA.

No. 2462751

>>2462742
It seems all that whining was for nothing, anons here even revealed the audience for this webring don't even have their own site kek

No. 2462777

>>2462762
Normie in this case doesn't mean Disney adult swifties. Just women with jobs, education, independence and they touch grass sometimes.

No. 2462784

>>2462751
Its the webring being normie only that dissuaded nonas from joining. I highly doubt anyone who actively uses this site would be considered a normie kek.
most webmasters ITT are some flavour of weeb or sperge and normies usually stick to social media or a premade blogger/wordpress in general.
>I will be strict. No gendies. Not even female gendies. One must be a normal, mundane, natal XX wombyn with a normal life and normal hobbies.

No. 2462873

>>2462734
>Would you prefer it to be farmer-only or a general non-gendie women webring
How would you even make it farmer-only? I'm a farmer but nothing on my site really suggests it, aside from me being in WOTI. I follow several sites that I suspect are run by farmers, but unless they explicitly mention lolcor like Vivarism, it's just that, a suspicion. There's no way to really confirm it. As for non-gendie women, that would be nice but I still feel like it runs the risk of being infiltrated by troons. If that happens, how would you deal with it? Would you remove them? What happens if they have a histrionic fit and start targeting other members in the webring? I'm not even sure it's possible to have a non-gendie women webring without its members being targeted, harassed, and mass-blocked so that they become shadowbanned. Neocities is infested by mob-mentality genderspecial teens. I don't have any GC related content on my site but just because I'm in WOTI, I've already been blocked by several sites I've never interacted with.
>Would you like references to LC (pastures/farm themed) or would you prefer the theme to be completely irrelevant to the site
An irrelevant theme would be safer. Some webmasters have already been harassed just because they're in WOTI. Having farm-related dogwhistles would just make it more obvious that it's LC related
>Would you prefer applications to be registration only or would you be comfortable with screening questions (in the case the webring is for farmers only)
I feel like invite-only might be best, similar to that flowering clique. Although at that point, I guess it would be more like a clique than a webring

>>2462742
>>2462751
I mean I didn't join because it looked like a honeypot kek. Thinking back, we got really lucky that the WOTI admin turned out to be non-malicious

No. 2462882

>>2462873
whats the difference between a clique and a webring anyways?

No. 2462884

most people itt are really overthinking the whole woti webring, literally nothing happened when i joined except for maybe one comment

No. 2462974

>>2462873
>How would you even make it farmer-only?
In this case the webring would be invite/referral only. I will ask some screening questions similar to the ones in the FC2 LC group for verification.
>the risk of being infiltrated by troons.
The webring will be an innocuous theme whether it be farm themed or not and will be very vague. It wont be outright labelled as a "women's only" webring and it will be a certain aesthetic that likely wouldnt attract a TIM and at most would pique a TIF collecting widgets for aesthetics.
>how would you deal with it?
The webring would have an upfront rule that will deny or remove a website at the admin's discretion. If a reason for removal is requested, the notice will be as vague as possible. If drastic measures are required, the members list will be privated and the widget will be changed to be innocuous to protect members from harassment.
>I'm not even sure it's possible to have a non-gendie women webring
A webring with the sole purpose to showcase women webmasters only? Absolutely it will be hard in this day and age, however an innocuous aesthetic webring would likely fly over the radar; I have no intentions of making this a political oriented webring nor require GC content as a prerequisite to join. As long as you are a natal women who identifies as such and does not have TRA beliefs or graphics you are qualified for the webring.
>Having farm-related dogwhistles would just make it more obvious that it's LC related
Agreed, especially after the artfight incident.
I thought it would be best to ask anyways just in case (though any ideas would be immediately null by virtue of being brought up publicly here in the first place kek)
>I feel like invite-only might be best. Although at that point, I guess it would be more like a clique than a webring
What differentiates this webring from a standard clique is the javascript function that allows you to access other sites in the webring via the widget. The goal of this webring is to showcase women hobbyists that focus on their site content and hobbies rather than gender nonsense.

>>2462884
My main concern with WOTI isnt the harassment (my comments and neocities profile is off so troons have no avenue to harass me anyways. the tards that do the effort of finding my guestbook to leave a snarky reply is more laughable than threatening) but rather trying to find other women webmasters only to get jumpscared by a trans rights button or they/them in the about page.
No shame to WOTI and the admin, she has already went above and beyond initiating the project in the first place, it would just be nice to have some variety in women spaces, especially some with more niche/condensed beliefs.

No. 2463022

>>2462884
How many followers do you have? I got death threats and harassment through email and guestbook so I guess it depends on how many people know about your site.

No. 2463099

>>2462742
I deleted it because there's no one else there lol. >>2462734 it was hosted on GitHub pages bc it was generated through Jekyll and GitHub has workflows which makes it possible to just generate it and push the public html to the GitHub pages, forked from https://github.com/TooManyBees/ring and yeah it has minimal css bc I made it in 5 minutes. I made yarn-and-peeps first and it's not a tradwife blog lmao it was knitting autism containment.

No. 2463101

>>2462974
Thanks for answering my questions! Wishing you the best of luck if you decide to make it. It's such a shame that something as innocuous as a women's only webring can cause such a stir

No. 2463404

I find it very interesting how multiple people linked to by and interacting with Guyvy and now-trans-Vashti are members of WOTI. did they never hear about the terf callouts? are they trannies and infiltrating on purpose? or are they begrudgingly parroting "Michael" out of a desire to be nice kek

No. 2463448

>>2463099
Did no one apply to it?

No. 2464093

Why not just make a list of sites we audience curate that is just women led sites that don't have gendie nonsense on them?
Don't even ask the site owner, they can plausibly deny any affiliation, it's a 3rd party wearing that the sites are not connected to

No. 2464103

>>2464093
How do we "audience curate" in the first place? If you mean doing it through LC that would be a horrible idea as gendies/TRAs lurk this thread frequently and have shown to do so in multiple instances.
There are sites like >>>/ot/2395291 that simply showcase cool websites (NOT like the federiefederi follow for follow scheme) though a majority of webmasters would not be pleased to be on an outwardly "Radfem/GC website" list since that's setting them up for easy harassment. It also wouldn't function as a webring since the webmasters would have to implement the script on their site in order to connect their site to the webring member list.
Even if the webmaster can deny affiliation, zoomies are retarded and place baseless claims on anyone just for an opportunity to harass them all the time.
I personally wouldn't feel threatened by it but I would be very annoyed to have spam mail/guestbook messages clogging up my feed

No. 2464199

>>2464103
>though a majority of webmasters would not be pleased to be on an outwardly "Radfem/GC website" list since that's setting them up for easy harassment.
Agree. I'm a full blown TERF and even I wouldn't want that. My website is 100% apolitical and dedicated to hobbies, being put on a weblisting because I don't mention pronouns would annoy me when I just want to post fashion and retro anime in peace.

No. 2464238

would you consider websites that have imageboard culture or lingo as a redflag? trying to find sites to follow and imageboard larpers are one of the easier sites to distinguish as potential farmers.
>>2463404
just connected the dots on who Vashti is and im so disappointed she trooned out, her website intrigued me. wasn't guyvy also in woti? hope admin intervenes soon

No. 2464299

>>2464238
Guyvy isn’t listed on the webring and I can’t say he ever was. I look at it infrequently to find other normal women and I’ve never come across his site on there at all.

No. 2464310

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>>2464238
I also don't think he was ever in WOTI, I just looked at many of the Wayback Machine archives of his site and didn't see the widget once
I don't understand why mtfs think putting a space before punctuation and typing out filler words is soooo girlbrained. I've never seen any woman constantly ham it up like they do

No. 2464329

>>2464299
In hindsight I mustve mistooken his site for vashtis since they have similar aesthetics. really creepy that hes even skinwalking her website style

No. 2464526

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slightly autistic but i hate how so many websites have that fuckass crt scanlines filter on them. it isnt even unique and it just hurts my eyes

No. 2464536

>>2464526
agreed. I dont want to sound like an accessibility sped but some color combos, fonts, and css filters are a genuine eyesore to read through.

No. 2464579

>>2464526
Same, it causes me so much eye strain that if the webmaster doesn't provide an option to turn it off I'll just close the page.

No. 2464885

>>2464238
>would you consider websites that have imageboard culture or lingo as a redflag?
Depends. Usually if women portray themselves as wojaks and femcels I give them a side eye, it's a bit too cringe and juvenile for me kek. I'll still probably give their site a follow out of general interest though unless they give off severely underage vibes.

No. 2464976

>>2464238
Orange flag. I think imageboard culture/lingo should stay on imageboards. The 4chanification of the internet for the past 10-15 years has been so cringe. Most sites that I've seen use ib lingo are edgy tryhards and/or underage

No. 2465155

>>2464310
TIMs trying to speak in animespeak never fail to elicit the urge to alog "umm umm.. teehee I'm a ditzy uwu girl" you fucking sped you do not sound cute you sound like an inept retard.

No. 2465809

I have newbie questions about Neocities.
Can someone learn my email address if it don't put it anywhere on my site?
Can I make a second site with the same email address but a different site name?
Can images appearing on my site be hosted on a different site (imgur, photobucket, archive.org, etc.) and would that change how much space is used?
Does a repeating small image as a background use as much space as say a static large image background?

No. 2465833

>>2465809
>Can someone learn my email address if it don't put it anywhere on my site?
no
>Can I make a second site with the same email address but a different site name?
no unless you pay for supporter
>Can images appearing on my site be hosted on a different site
yes, that's called hotlinking, they wouldn't take up space on your website because they're not hosted there
>Does a repeating small image as a background use as much space as say a static large image background?
on the webpage? sure if you make it that way with css, but for filesize no. a 500x500 image generally isn't going to be the same filesize as a 1000x1000 image

No. 2466059

>>2465809
You can use burner emails if you're scared of people getting your actual address, same with making a second account to host more sites. I have a few sites on Neocities using that method

No. 2466532

>>2465809
Another note on the second site, you can use the same email to make another site if you write it like this email+1@gamil.com (or similar, add a +1/+2/etc before the @), it counts as different one but all the messages will be sent to your normal email.
As >>2465833 said though, you can only have 1 site per account unless you pay for supporter, so you have to create a new account for it. I don't think this is against the rules or that is monitored as I had 2 accounts like this for years with no issues.

No. 2467506

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>go looking for website layouts
>rabbit hole to blinkiecafe
>gendieshit everywhere
At least it's customizable text

No. 2468235

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>>2453129
on this very page you can actually find Vashti talking about relaying some dream to Guyvy and his reply is to admit to being pornsick (telling her that the fucked up porn in her dream was "barely porn")

No. 2468432

>>2468235
theres especially something insidious about a woman self harming being deemed "softcore". fucking vile I hope he 41% and vashi snaps out of this nonsense fucking hell

No. 2469831

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>>2468432
i hope she does too but i think she won't unless something very drastic happens to peak her out of it. semi-related, i hate the way TIFs like her talk about joan of arc. she wasn't a man because she dressed as such, and she wasn't ever a man at all.

No. 2470316

>>2453129
A flash drive of porn ready for the bans? Moids really think their pronz are a human right. Let me guess "Ivy" thinks porn being banned censors kweer people too.

No. 2472072

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>>2467506
speaking of gc buttons i made a chiikawa stamp inspired by the 2X stamps. if anyones interested I can make stamps of other characters from chiikawa

No. 2472081

>>2472072
Oh this is too cute. More please!

No. 2472117

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>>2472081
Thank you! Heres a hatchi.
I hope to make a site to have chiikawa themed stamps/pixels once I get supporter status again

No. 2472824

I have a question about creating websites. What's involved in creating a website with animated timers like the website below? I want to create one, but with much better animations, but I have no idea what I'm doing. I feel like with a couple of months study, I could create a website with normal timers, but I have no idea if that's accurate or not. And I have no idea what what you need to know to create animated timers. I want to create animated timers with like sunrise and sunset in different locations and some cute animations like a cat playing a ball of yarn or a kitten trying to climb some stairs. I would appreciate any and all advice. Sorry if this is not the right board for this question.

https://www.online-stopwatch.com/sensory-timers/sunset/
https://www.online-stopwatch.com/christmas/trees/

No. 2472855

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>>2472824
Do you wish to make the graphics from scratch via CSS or incorporate gifs timed to the timer? You might need to add JS to make sure the animation is accurately timed but there should be free resources online to find the code. freecodecamp has good tutorials on how to make graphics with CSS for practice, you can also inspect element the example sites and research the code on w3school to learn how they function.

No. 2472870

>>2472855
>Do you wish to make the graphics from scratch via CSS or incorporate gifs timed to the timer?
I don't know as when I said I didn't know anything I meant it. Thank for advising me of the options. I now know what to research.

No. 2472876

>>2472870
To elaborate, making graphics from scratch via CSS means making the image off of code lines, whereas a gif would be using a pre-made image, usually a singular asset. hope this clears it up a bit

No. 2473092

>>2472072
I want to use these on my site but I'm too scared kek

No. 2473132

>>2473092
Go for it! I saw someone use the 2X stamps which inspired me to make one of my own. Not sure if shes a farmer but there are innocuous websites out there that are GC; some hopium for neocities nonas

No. 2473802

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Anyone know what happened to rice.place? Did she end up deactivating on her own terms or was it related to something else. I know sites come and go but its always a bummer to site neat pages go down without explanation

No. 2473904

>>2473802
Last I saw there was some drama happening with someone copying her site out of retaliation to her "copying muh oldweb sites is bad" manifesto (copy eventually got nuked), then again this was maybe a month ago so idk

No. 2474154

>>2473802
>>2473904
She was a0i/hatsu on neocities so it doesn't surprise me that she deleted like this

No. 2474594

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Does anyone else remember those TCG websites where you would trade pixel cards with other people to complete decks? I used to love them. I thought they were probably all dead but I found one still running on dreamwidth

No. 2474794

>>2474594
I'm active on DW and that games has always intrigued me (I wasn't around when it was on its prime). I looked into it some time ago and it looks fun, it surprised me they even got sets for obscure-ish characters I love.
I was considering joining because some websites I follow play it and their pages dedicated to it look nice, but I only care about a few series and I think it's gonna be too hard to collect cards of them.

No. 2476641

>>2474154
wait really, have you got a source? im surprised we weren't dogging on her sooner for her "copying isnt a fucking act of love" slop manifesto

No. 2476710

>>2476641
She had the same depop and carrd linked on both sites. I'll see if I can get screenshots from the archived sites when I get home

No. 2478745

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>>2476641
I haven't read the manifesto but I somewhat get the sentiment.
I've seen sites that blatantly rip off the CSS of other sites, usually only changing the text. Most of the time they give up on updating the site because they don't actually have an understanding of the code and how to change it. Its one thing to take pieces of code from a site, its another to copy paste everything in the inspect element tab and change virtually nothing.

No. 2478761

>>2474594
>>2474794
kek, i used to be active on colors many years ago but then mousey? stopped hosting card posts so dealing with all the card files was a hassle and i stopped playing. there's a german tcg that's fully automated though and it has a ton of games and automatic trading (so it auto accepts cards and you don't have to do it yourself). it's pretty fun! https://heavenspell.la-impresion.org/TCG/

No. 2478827

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>>2476641
funny that the websites of the testimonies in the manifesto are either pre made templates or absolute hot garbage. no one in their right mind would copy shit like this kek

No. 2478868

Is there a guest book feature whe the owner of the website gets your ip address because you left a comment? I'm paranoid.

No. 2478871

>>2478868
Every website gets your IP address, that's how the internet works.

No. 2478873

>>2478868
That used to be a thing when 123guestbook was still up, don't know about any of the recent alternatives though. Your IP also shows if you use something like Cbox

No. 2478902

>>2478871
I think ayrt was referring to someone seeing her IP address because she commented in someone's guestbook
>>2478868
>>2478873
https://atabook.org/ , https://www.cbox.ws/ and I think https://ishoutbox.com/ have these features and I've seen them used on other people's websites. Anon should go back to the guestbook she commented in and look up if it has that feature, it should be listen on the main domain. Have you been leaving comments on sketchy sites? I doubt most guestbook users would wanna do something bad with your IP address

No. 2478906

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>>2473802
>>2474154
I lurk the nekoweb discord and I never made the connection due to her typing style seeming kind of different. I never bothered visiting her site because of that lame and overused dokodemo cat icon, the moment I see someone has that cat plastered all over their site I tend to ignore it. She has 18k messages in the discord and is still active, discordfag to the max.

>>2476710
That's a good catch nonnie

>>2478868
I have used smartgb since I started out and yes it has that feature.

No. 2478943

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Some random enby in 32bitcafe discord is seething about evil terves daring to apply to her programming fanlisting. I don't know who the queen that's applying is but I hope you know you made multiple people in that discord sperg out

No. 2479007

>>2478943
kekk love to see it

No. 2479064

>>2479050
Nonna delete this..

No. 2479065

>>2479050
While lazy I dont think copied text would be as egregious as the time someone ripped lovesick's landing page and included her commissioned pixel gif that she kindly asked for other people not to copy.
I do find it funny she has terfs fuck off but the old lesbian flag stamp in her marquee

No. 2479082

>>2479064
you're right, I've seen people swarm her cbox over it before, so I didn't think twice about saying that. figured the lurkers all know by now. I've deleted it anyway

No. 2479092

>>2479065
Kekkk of course she's a "lesbian." It's funny that she copied text and code snippets, but put a whole "do not steal my code" section. Also, it's weird she joined the mini cliques of someone she stole from, but doesn't link to her or follow her.

No. 2479097

>>2478943
Lmao shit I know this persons blog. Trannies are overly sensitive, there's nothing hateful about what she said and she's very nice otherwise.

No. 2479116

>>2478943
>being exclusionary towards trans women is hate speech
>op only states facts like only natal women can have 2X chromosomes
we need to start making mundane troon exclusionary spaces so they know how it feels to be a woman trying to join a hobby space only for it to be evaded by trannies making everything a navelgaze on their fetish

No. 2479274

yall are insane the way yall need to know everything.(namefagging)

No. 2479279

>>2479274
Couldn't help but lurk huh hatsu

No. 2479293

>>2479279
kekaroo that's gonna destroy her reputation

No. 2479419


No. 2479468

>>2479293
Knowing that she deactivated and came back under different aliases 3 separate times, shes definitely gonna come back sooner or later anyways because terminally online retards simply cant help themselves kek

No. 2479519

is lovesick really a terf if she’s married to a moid she calls poopy

No. 2479555

File: 1744081957896.jpg (65.02 KB, 798x400, 1000012764.jpg)

Are there any active oekaki boards besides Cinni's? That one is kind of dead.

No. 2479652

>>2479555
There's the chicken smoothie oekaki board. Aside from that, the only active oekaki I know of is https://tegaki.pipa.jp/ but idk if that's what you're looking for. You might have better luck asking in the artist salt thread

No. 2479732

>>2479519
Being married now disqualifies yoy from being a terf? kek
I think you're confusing terf, female separatist and simply not agreeing with the whole troon movement (I don't blame you as people tend to use these interchangeably). She's probably just the later, she's chill.

>>2479555
Along the other reply you got, there's also https://pinksea.art/. Its problem is that it's kinda dead as well and I think you might need a Bluesky account to post, but it's fun to draw on it.

No. 2479834

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Speaking of hatsu/a0i/rice, doesn't anyone else think this is also her site? The sperging about code theft feels like her.
https://bighater.neocities.org/

No. 2479853

>>2479834
>I do not fucking care
yet she reemerges and lurks everywhere and has to make statements everywhere about how she totally doesn't care kek.

No. 2479856

>>2479834
>anyways, i have a real site somewhere on the internet. somewhere you all will never know. i lurk everywhere.
Okay? Why is she so self important here kek

No. 2479894

>>2479834
>the biggest urk
>something that urks me too
kek, truly room temp iq

No. 2479897

>>2479856
bitch thinks shes lain iwakura

No. 2479982

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>>2479856
>>2479853
She has an obsession with lurking. Picrel was posted around the same time she made her newfaggy post in the thread. In addition, her being so extremely invested in the nekoweb discord is hilarious because it's full of 12 year olds and she talks there all day.

No. 2479993

>>2479982
it would be for the greater good if she stepped down from being public and kept her malding to herself but alas she has to make it clear to everyone that shes a hater and that she hates something and that she totally doesn't care that someone disagrees with her and yet she has to sperge that she is always watching and seething and finds shit to be mad about

No. 2480258

File: 1744143014665.gif (1.12 MB, 500x500, 1000016268.gif)

Nonnies i finally went get
>HTML5 and Javascript for Dummies
and a couple other books from the library so I can make my website more than just text on a white page.

No. 2480273

>>2480258
Hell yeah, best of luck on Javascript too, your site is going to be pimped up

No. 2480287

>>2479834
Didn’t her a0i site say that she doesn’t know how to code and she commissions people to make her layouts for her kek

No. 2480325

>>2479993
isn't she over 25 and married? imagine having no life despite that

No. 2480336

>>2480325
Chatting with kids at that big age and being married. Kek what a weirdo

No. 2480429

>>2480258
It's a shame webmonkey isn't a thing anymore, that's how I learnt. Is there a site these days that specialises in good easy tutorials for Web design like webmonkey did back in the day?

No. 2481748

i wish nekoweb was used by more adults. i feel like a lot of the drama that happens in the community only happens because it's overran by queer 14 year olds who just found out what coding is, i mean i understand what theyre going through, i was in their shoes once too, but come on man, how are you so socially inept…

also. lolcow hating on that one girl for being a hater is peak comedy; i feel like it's ironic you girls are making fun of her for being a hater when… that's what you're doing. can we get better lolcows please.(unintegrated newfag)

No. 2481802

>>2481748
>you girls are making fun of her for being a hater
I'll let you in on a secret, it's actually the attention whoring that we're making fun of her for

No. 2481818

>>2481748
welcome back grandma-chan

No. 2481906

>>2481748
maybe if she wasnt an attention whore who kept making herself known in these threads we wouldn't be giving her death for it. just a thought.

No. 2481926

>>2481748
Rice we know it's you. Come on now.(hi cow)

No. 2481946

>>2481748
Nekoweb is a childish looking host that bans people for being transphobic, any adult with a normal brain would look at that and lose interest. Just a few days ago there was some minor drama over people discovering a site with a troon soayjak and everyone clutching their pearls over it and begging for it to be banned. It's great for what it is, containment for children and fake edgy gendies.

And no, laughing at hatsu isn't peak comedy, she can't help but make herself known after each and every blunder. She's obsessed with site copying to the point of hilarity, especially at her big age, yet somehow each time drama around her appears she deletes her site right away instead of standing her ground and being such a based hater. Not to mention her hanging out with children all the time. It's just off-putting and pathetic

No. 2482020

>>2481946
Dude you're genuinely so retarded. Nowhere in the TOS does it say you can't be transphobic, that stupid soyjack website was banned because they were harassing some random Friday night funkin retard. It doesn't take a dumbass to read the rules of a service before you use it.

No. 2482083

>>2482020
>Nowhere in the TOS does it say you can't be transphobic
While that's true (and they wash their hands when it comes to offensive content hosted by them), considering the people who run it and its users I wouldn't ber surprised if the second someone points out a site is transphobic, they eliminate it.

No. 2482110

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>>2482020
Dude I'm not, transphobia is illegal in germany and sites have been taken down for such reasons multiple times. Not to mention the discord being an annoying troon hugbox while everyone flexes about using 4chan because it's so #oldwebcore. Don't bother acting dense, everyone knows an open and out terf would be immediately shunned and eventually banned on nekoweb. Now go back to your circlejerk.

No. 2482126

File: 1744283852727.jpg (71.46 KB, 389x753, nekowebrice.jpg)

She just edited all of her messages in discord to this. Once again deleting everything because people mentioned her once. Nobody would even care this much if she didn't come to the thread to whiteknight herself every time.

No. 2482199

>>2482110
Sites have not been taken down on nekoweb for being transphobic, nor have they been taken down for simply having a slur in them.

Also, I don’t think think being transphobic is illegal in Germany

The only thing I agree with is that nekoweb is a hugbox, but you know the best way to fix it? By actively using the website & evening the user demographic, by recommending it to your friends, by caring about the website despite all its troony users. Spreading misinformation on it will not help because anyone who actually decides to give a damn about the website will quickly realize how retarded you are.

>>2482083
The worst that would happen is the discord getting pissy and complaining, but I know the lurkers here would just loooove the attention, so it really doesn’t matter.

No. 2482205

Nekoweb looks cute and has a nice domain, but I don't know why anyone would put their site there unless they only plan to use it as a test or for a short amount of time.
There are more reliable free wen hosters out there, Nekoweb feels like it will implode after 3 Discord fights or when the mods get overwhelmed by the fact that running it cost time and money, it should've stayed as a clique/small hosting for their group of friends. I'm surprised it managed to get this far in all honestly.

Of course this is all conjecture, but as an outsider it just looks like everything but profesional. I'm glad it serves as a gendie/child zone ala Club Penguin for Y2K tiktokers so other hostings are more free of them though.

No. 2482207

>>2482126
I would've respected her being an open hater if she actually stood by her words and didn't tuck tail the moment someone acknowledges it. cowardly behaviour lmao

No. 2482297

File: 1744301282651.png (1.25 MB, 1304x867, Screenshot (77).png)

>>2482205
All of what you said is true and tbh it's a bit of a shame. Maybe it's a little specific but I like the explore tab and how you can customize your site preview (picrel) some people can get really creative. And at least maybe it will encourage younger zoomers to pick up some hobbies like coding

No. 2483114

What are some of the most unique web designs yall have seen?

No. 2483392

File: 1744379702975.jpg (53.51 KB, 735x893, 736x-1.jpg)

I can't put zoom in/zoom out with a click in images without breaking the code. I feel so dumb

No. 2483404

File: 1744380505635.jpg (39.49 KB, 250x250, Frog_Fractions.jpg)

Pic rel randomly popped into my head the other day. It starts like a normal educational game and then goes off the rails. I heard there was a sequel that ended up in some random steam game

No. 2483448

File: 1744383258695.png (788 KB, 1884x876, Screenshot.png)

>>2483114
its not the most unique but I really like the promotional website for virtual self
https://virtualself.co/

No. 2483458

>>2483448
Do you know if there's a recreation of the Nurture site? I thought that was really neat.

No. 2483544

File: 1744387986957.png (2.74 MB, 1904x812, activetheory.png)

>>2483458
You can try and see if internet archive had it saved otherwise I recall they made a VR version of the site on the oculus.
I found the web developer for the nurture and virtual self and the website is really cool
https://activetheory.net/

No. 2484695

>>2483544
Couldn't find it on archive but it looks like someone remade it in something called VRChat. I don't have a headset but it's nice it's preserved. Tiny bit tempted to get one though.
That website is sick af.

No. 2484702

>>2482199
>The only thing I agree with is that nekoweb is a hugbox, but you know the best way to fix it?
Why would you bother fixing a troon site honestly

No. 2484709

>>2484702
That anon is so confusing, just let the underage troons be in their own containment it's better for everyone. I know dimden himself is way chiller than most of his userbase but it's his own fault for creating nekoweb with a bunch of sensitive tifs and enbies. Nekoweb was set up to be pigeonholed with such a team behind it and that's that. If you want normal people to use your site host you need to be normie friendly which nekoweb is not. Neocities has been so quiet since nekoweb became a thing, and that's great kek.

No. 2484838

>>2484695
You can still explore VRChat without a headset, if you really wanted to see it! Depending on the complexity of the world it might not even be available for the cheaper headset anyways.

No. 2485490

File: 1744538786475.png (45.64 KB, 598x383, Screenshot.png)

Nonas, Geocities 2.0 is happening….
They're deleting Fc2 websites because their servers are too old and costy. In July they will launch Fc2 Homepage, and considering they made a migration guide and the aforementioned costs, I wouldn't be surprised if they delete the sites on the old one after a bit. I hope I'm wrong though, I don't want to say goodbye to 20 years worth of fanworks and art.
Internet archive barely has saved anything on top, and uploading pages there takes forever…
http://www.fc2web.com/

No. 2485494

nonnies, we should just have our own webring and be outwardly exclusionary to troons. i use neocities mostly for my sites, however i think it would start a riot between the highly child populated userbase

No. 2485503

>>2485490
I'm glad they're developing an alternative. The last substantial update on FC2 Web was back in around 2017, with the exception of scheduled maintenance periods. I really wish they would develop a way to automatically migrate sites over to the new servers. So many sites will be lost forever.

No. 2485531

>>2485494
this comes up like every five minutes in this thread. make one that doesn’t look like a mega honeypot or just stop mentioning it at this point.

No. 2485534

>>2485494
Look up and see what happened.

>>2485503
I misunderstood the announcement and was a bit wrong. Looks like only the sites not linked to Fc2 ID will be lost, so a huge portion will be saved at the very least (I think the ID thing launched in 2003 or so).
It will be:
http://www.fc2web.com/ -> Lost
https://web.fc2.com/ -> Saved
The Fc2 Homepage is actually what we all are using, so yeah it will continue with its 2005 grandiose UI and no major updates since 2017 haha.

No. 2485540

>>2485534
Yeah, I had a look after I posted that and I've been using FC2 Homepage for a while now haha, so I don't need to do anything, and others don't too!

No. 2485639

File: 1744557525247.gif (1.27 MB, 500x500, 1000016494.gif)

Nonnies why is it some complicated to have a custom scroll bar, I just want it to look cute why must Javascript be the only way

No. 2485647

>>2485639
You can use CSS to change the color and size, though size depends on which browser. w3schools should have a tutorial for it
Unless you want images for your scrollbar like it's a 2014 Tumblr theme

No. 2485684

>>2485540
Oh thank God. I've left my neocities like a baby in a hot car I'm not ready to save it yet

No. 2485949

>>2485647
>>2485639
I was finally able to get it working enough, I was using chat gpt to talk me through it. I used SimpleBar but had to download the css and js because the link only wasn't working. I've given up on getting the track (background image) working, I only got it running on a test file briedfly and never again. But the thumb (the rectangle you move) was there it was just weirdly thin, tried to work around it, set left to negative, even just chang z axis to bring it in front but it wasn't budgingnand ai was sending me in circles so I think
>maybe it's in the js and simplebar css file that's constraint it?
So I couldn't upload any thing and has to copy and paste sections and it said it might be the css but just sent me in circles again, so I used the inspect key because I did that to find out the online links were messed up and I find that I CAN MOVE THINGS WITH THE MOUSE?? WHAY TECHNO-WIZARDY IS THIS?
So I found the screen bar WAS constrained to 11 pixels wide when my image was 25 pixels (and I had already tried to set it to that with code in both the html and my css file) but I was able to modify it in the desktop and copy it back to the simplebar.min.css file because the code was a garbled mess on a single line and I wanst able to find it or override elsewhere.
So that's a win at least
But I still
>back piece still missing
>didnt adjust the height for the scroll thumb image so it stops short because it's still reading a 100px tall image not the 30px image

No. 2487665

>>2485949
if youre using firefox it doesnt support custom scrollbars, they can really only be recolored without a ton of JS and CSS. same for several other browsers

No. 2488625

File: 1744761656668.png (13.22 KB, 336x301, wtf.PNG)

what is that girl who posts insane suicide baits and complains about her troon bf abusing her all day talking about?

No. 2488737

>>2488625
Wait because I saw her say she had it all planned out for the fall, in spring or-so last year. I remembered it and checked back after the fact and saw she didn't do it.
You telling me that isn't the only time?? Jfc

No. 2489669


No. 2489673

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No. 2489713

>>2489673
>Insane tranny couple
>Lives in Seattle
literally every time also this isnt a doxx I just looked at her website

No. 2489753

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>>2488625
>>2488737
A shame shes schizo as fuck, her pixels are really cute

No. 2489759

>>2488625
wasnt she mentioned in the last thread kek

No. 2489921

>trying to find some interesting web rings to join
>all the "no hatespeech/transphobia" bullshit in the rules
It's all so tiresome

No. 2489981

>>2489921
I just straight up made my own for this reason kek, its a small group consisting of a penny, used napkin, and chip but its better than having to be crypto to join a fucking book webring or some shit

No. 2491585

File: 1744943900119.jpg (36.03 KB, 735x807, GOcEs9vWoAAUgbt.jpg)

anynonnie here use angelfire? last i checked you could still make a site with a free angelfire domain like back in the day. i'm thinking of using it to just have my own site away from everything (read: neocities userbase) like how fc2 sites are basically impossible to find unless you know the exact url but i'm mostly hesitant though because both fc2 and angelfire can take your site down at will, as most hosts other than neocities can/do (plus the recent fc2 scare + the fact that angelfire is ancient and could get shut down any moment now, idk i might be paranoid. i just want to have a little hidden site to host my autism on for years to come without worrying about it getting nuked)

No. 2491699

>>2491585
if the only problem is discovery then you can hide on nc by disabling your profile and comments, not using any tags, and marking your site as 18+. even with all the social media stuff enabled, unless you go out of your way to interact with people, nobody will know you exist. if you don't want to host there purely because of cringe by association, then just say that

No. 2491858

>>2491585
>anynonnie here use angelfire? last i checked you could still make a site with a free angelfire domain like back in the day.

You can't. I made an Angelfire account years ago for nostalgia reasons and as soon as you register it brings you to a page to subscribe for a paid plan. The cheapest option is 100MB for $3.25 a month, which isn't even worth it when a free account on Neocities or Nekoweb gives you more. You should probably look into self-hosting if you want a more obscure site, or follow >>2491699 's advice.

No. 2491920

>>2491585
>i'm mostly hesitant though because both fc2 and angelfire can take your site down at wil
So the same as any other host? I don't know how they worded it on their TOS, but as long as you don't upload anything illegal they won't move a finger.

No. 2492242

File: 1745004396056.jpg (40.75 KB, 253x199, angry.jpg)

can sites stop using fucking unintelligible text colors on their page, idc if its kawiwi no one can read teal on a fucking white background i hate having to manually paste #000000 in the code just to read

No. 2492916

>>2492242
In a way I'm charmed by it because it's like the modern equivalent to those neon background with neon font combos from back in the day. Pastel text on white bg has been a thing since 2010 Tumblr, so I don't think it's going away anytime soon.
But yeah, that and 5px font size are a good way to turn people away, I tend to close the tab the second I see the text isn't readable.

No. 2493040

File: 1745069867006.png (57.7 KB, 370x320, tumblr_pjmixfsTjG1x42ovco3_400…)

Do any of you have recs of tutorials/glosaries of technology/backend for babies? I have had my website for some years and I would like to learn PHP to make some things easier (and because I would love to create webrings and fanlistings I got on mind) but I don't understand anything. Simple things like executing scripts/programs, environments, web servers etc escape my mind. Of course Google is my friend and I look up these terms, but the explanations still feel like they're people with a good ground on using technology or Linux nerds.
When I moved away from NC I had problems as well, even the tutorial supposed for begginers was confusing, but luckly I found a host who is super nice and configured everything so I didn't had to do anything.
I might just be stupid though, but if you have anything I would appreciate it.

No. 2493058

>>2493040
if you're starting from zero with PHP, try Traversy Media's 3hr PHP crash course. It should get you started with the basic stuff you need. There's a lot of intro to programming type stuff at the beginning which you can skip or skim based on your familiarity

No. 2493124

>>2492242
just close the tab and you wont have to read it

No. 2493141


No. 2493230

>>2491585
I think any site can be taken down at any time. I've had an FC2 site since 09, not updated since about 2017 or 18 and it's still there just like it was. It's easy to use, you can use Ftp, and it's relatively straightforward. You can have a blog attached, a counter, a BBS and other things right there to put on your site easily too.

No. 2493237

>>2493058
>>2493141
Thanks to both of you! I will go thru them next week, but I skimmed a bit and they seem approachable enough

No. 2493294

>>2489921
I found one that's a free speech webring, and a Christian one but I'm sure it's not what nonas here on lolcor like

No. 2493323

>>2493124
Nona, I go out of my way to change the hexcode to black in order to read it, its annoying but its not stopping me from reading an interesting looking page

No. 2493342

File: 1745088718982.jpg (90.19 KB, 413x258, TFWET3Q48174841467.jpg)

Its always a pleasant surprise to see lc namedropped in a diary/blurb of a webmistress's site I give it a pass because the diary of some innocuous neocities site doesnt have the reach of a youtube video/social media post bonus points if theyre mentioning an ot thread and aren't bringing lc up for an le edgy ib larp

No. 2493447

>>2493230
It's probably worth having mirrors of your site just in case. Have multiple host backups for example.

No. 2493462

Does this mean fc2 counters and the other widgets will break too?

No. 2493579

>>2493462
FC2 isn't closing down. Sites that are old enough to be pre-ID system (which was in place even back in 2010) will be closed down unless the ID is made. Don't fret. As far as I know they are not going to break.

No. 2493698

File: 1745116225476.jpg (113.3 KB, 1080x634, Kek.jpg)

Xandra is on agora road fighting for her life to defend her special ed class of 40 year old groomer tims and autistic underage tifs who create nothing interesting

https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/the-personal-web.5647/page-17#post-141161

No. 2493796

>>2493698
really don't know why xandra bothers to defend 32-bit cafe from agora road users. i guess it's the whole "edgy male 4chan users are better than le evil terf women" thing.

No. 2493801

>>2493698
Surprisingly I think she stood her ground well, despite the cringe usage of "my guy, my dude, my bro" at the beginning of every post kek. However 32bit is and always be extremely gatekeepy. There's nothing wrong with that and they should reserve their right to be that way, but they'll never admit it openly and proudly because there's a stigma attached to it. They have to envelop their rules in layers of therapy and newspeak to sound palatable to retards, so rules like "don't be a trauma dumping attention whore" have to sound a certain way. Xandra does have a right to operate her space any way she wants just as we of course have a right to make fun of it.

No. 2493806

>>2493796
It's so telling that she's willing to be around 4chan neet incels but women who don't use made up pronouns are evil

No. 2493964

>>2493462
I don't have the link at hand, but they're ending support for some widgets as well (unrelated to closing down pre-ID websites though). The counter is unfortunately one of them, they advise you to use Google Analytics or a similat service instead. The other widgets closing were more niche iirc.

No. 2494420

>>2493806
IKR? One of the dudes in that thread criticizes her caping for trannies and uses that word, but she doesn't even cry "transphobia" once. But she'll gladly virtue signal over "TERFs" in her space.

No. 2494621

File: 1745189715439.jpeg (215.12 KB, 1179x278, IMG_3222.jpeg)

I’m not even angry with self hating women anymore, I just feel sad for them https://planetaryinfluence.neocities.org/diary/19-04-25

No. 2494629

>>2494621
Her being suspicious of other feminists and women is pathetic and sad. This is why I hate libfems and tifs. It's always dick over everyone and everything else.

No. 2494709

>>2494420
Lol, what do you expect her to do? One is her space.

No. 2494754

I don't get the webmasters out there that screech about their public website being seen. Do you or do you not want people to see it? If you don't want it to be seen, keep it local. It makes no sense otherwise. Especially when said webmasters still have a contact email and a guestbook. It's so attention seeking.

No. 2494827

>>2494754
Kek, do people actually act like that? They literally contradict thmeselves, that's so retarded. What's the point of having a website be public (especially when they have "about" pages where they seem to really want to be seen!) if you're going to sperg about people seeing it? KEK.

No. 2494847

>>2494754
I think this is a bit different from what you’re talking about but for me it’s about the audience. I want my website to be seen by less people because that often means those who are interested in website development or the topics I talk about are more likely to be the people who find and interact with my website. Being flooded by tons of zoomers who found my website through an aesthetic webcore tiktok or whatever just makes me feel uneasy.

No. 2495420

>>2494621
I don't, they're willfully ignorant for male clout. Just reading this post I can tell she's never talked to an actual radfem or detransitioner and parrots the same talking points everyone else does.

No. 2496167

>>2494621
How do people reach these conclusions? Is this some sort of brain wash?

No. 2496471

>>2494754
It's more nuanced than that. People don't want links to their website posted on to some hot bed social media fest which leads to tons of users visiting their site which breaks their site traffic, but they still want the convenience of sharing their site with people they know.

No. 2496646

>>2494754
>>2496471
i think it also boils down to the fact neocities users can't read for shit and would rather their writing be cared about than the visual aesthetic

No. 2496663

File: 1745352979322.png (232.03 KB, 1840x995, Screenshot 2025-04-22 at 13-15…)

she's back kek

No. 2496710

>>2496663
damn lasted a total of ~2 weeks LMAO

No. 2496742

>>2496663
It was inevitable. I don't know how she lives like this. I assume she sticks to Neocities because she's too thin skinned to exist anywhere else.
>>2496167
It's lazy thinking combined with extreme virtue signalling. They have no original thoughts. This is why they all speak the same and have the same talking points. There is safety in never thinking for yourself.

No. 2496835

File: 1745364456088.png (397.92 KB, 1580x746, 26 btw.png)

>>2496663
The mental image of this obese married woman clocking out of her sausage factory job to chat with middle schoolers on discord and post snarky anonymous callouts for every zero-follower code thief she finds is so fucking funny. So much for "focusing on life" kek

No. 2496839

File: 1745364746423.png (4.19 KB, 514x71, carrd.PNG)

>>2496835
wait that bighater site is her? funny how she complains about carrd when her site is one and social media aspects when all she does is feedspam

No. 2496871

>>2496835
How the fuck does she even find these accounts in the first place. If it was some bigger neocities user stealing code I'd get but these are literal nobodies probably doing babies first CSS/HTML and will likely give up because most of the time if theyre directly ripping off code they have no expertise in coding in the first place and will sooner give up or start from scratch

No. 2496978

>>2496839
her site basically looks like a carrd nowadays anyway kek

No. 2498287

File: 1745463254595.jpeg (63.3 KB, 1170x260, 1742845118147.jpeg)

i wish this thread wasn't for drama and was for sharing your site, following each other, etc. i can't imagine doxing my site here, knowing the type of crazies browsing, but at the same time i wish i could see what other anons are doing with their sites.

No. 2498293

I have my own personal site. It's not a blog, fan page, tumblresque furry or lgbt shit, it's coded entirely on my own "skill" without a builder or prebuilt layout, and it's on my paid for server and domain. Idk I just felt like sharing this.

No. 2498322

File: 1745466839223.jpg (24.03 KB, 736x484, errrm.jpg)

>>2498293(infight bait)

No. 2498484

>>2498293
That's pretty cool. What's your site about nona?
>>2498322
Fuck off, tiktard

No. 2498498

>>2498293
…okay, and?(baiting/not a chatroom)

No. 2498520

>>2498498
I think they want a medal

No. 2498658

>>2498322
>>2498520
>they
>retarded tiktok meme
Seriously what's with the influx of retarded zoomer gendies on this site
my fucking god GO BACK YOU NIGGERS(Racebaiting)

No. 2498672

>>2498658
Nona chill with the they = gendie thing, yeah we're all assumed to be women here but if you've been online and chatting with people you don't know for long enough it becomes automatic to call people they because you don't know their gender.

No. 2498684

>>2498658
lay off the ib usage edgelord

No. 2498685

>>2498672
Exactly, it's not "identity" bullshit,there's more moid migrators so its best to err on the side of caution.

No. 2498708

File: 1745503169061.jpeg (4.5 KB, 554x554, images (3).jpeg)

>>2498672
Using they/them for random anons is good actually. Gendies asking to be called they/them think it'll make them more special and memorable but by association they're actually filing themselves in the same category as faceless strangers. It's a real own goal.

No. 2498713

>>2498685
you can tell 'she' came straight from 4cuck kek

No. 2499696

>>2498293
must be boring as fuck if you fear all the things you mentioned

No. 2499812

>>2498672
>>2498685
>>2498708
Ackowledging moid tourists is the same as giving them space actually. We should be completely unaccepting of moids to the point of never assuming a poster is a moid, unless you are reporting the post. Moids GTFO.(derailing)

No. 2500032

>>2499812
God forbid I dont want to get some dudes jollies off by assuming hes a woman, which is what some of them want by posting here. Stop nitpicking the words nonnies use and respond to the post itself.(derailing)

No. 2500048

Didn't realize sharing that I have an oldweb small personal website on the oldweb small personal website thread would elicit so many "responses"

>>2498484
It's mostly to gather all the projects I create in one place without worrying about being banned or deleted at random or the ui changing or ads, anything modern internet, and is for my voice acting, music, coding, gaming, fashion, and cats. Technically the cats are their own separate part of the site, and I just post cat photos, nothing really created there, just a gallery. It's also a backup storage for my computer and three usbs of files. I've lost too much too many times.

No. 2500055

>>2500048
Thats cool, I've been thinking of self hosting on my own after the news of discord going public and the platform likely going downhill. It wasnt the smartest idea, but I used to use a personal server as an archive for content so I'd also like a back up where my content isn't nuked at the drop of a hat because of company changes. How much is maintenance for keeping a self-hosted site up and what services do you use? How easy would self-hosting be as a beginner to webdev (E.g. coming from a free hosting service like neocities/FC2)

No. 2500094

>>2500048
I'm not one of the anons who replied but your post just came off as pretentious.
Like yeah, 90% of people on this thread have personal websites, we have had many talks on how we selfhost and how we code, we don't post dA-tier on our sites either, etc etc. It felt like going to a supermarket and hearing someone screaming "I buy ingredients and cook my own meals for your information" kek
We all make mistakes though. It would've better if you just mentioned what you have just said about your website.

No. 2500135

>>2500094
agree, youre not obligated to give advice and mentor others but it certainly wouldve came off as less pretentious if you just described what you self hosted in the first place and the things you like about it.

No. 2500249

>>2496646
I was always under the assumption that the issue with neocities (the reason it gets memed on) was the amount of users that care about aesthetic rather than content ?

No. 2500360

>>2500055
Well I'm not an expert on every hosting service but in my experience different hosts are more or less reliable, have better support, and different prices. You would pay for a yearly plan depending on how much space you need for content and visitors, so a small site could use a small plan. Then you renew it. Domains can usually be purchased through the same host or connected through a different one, it's advisable to get protection with that so your information isn't displayed in the database. Domain prices vary but there are some very cheap options. You can also change this yearly or have more than one domain that leads to your site. I think big bames like google buy up every google. domain.

To create the site you create files. Your pages can be coded with extensions and uploaded in the main folder. It takes a day or two and it's online. I think in general your own host gets you a lot more space than a free host, and they cannot just delete your site at random. If you change hosts they can even transfer your site over.

If you really want to try it you can come back with questions and I'll try to help you out.

>>2500094
You're perhaps putting too much thought into it

No. 2502980

>>2500360
nta, but you did sound pretentious in your first message kek. Maybe it read differently in your head because you understood your tone while we're not privvy to said intent etc etc but not a big deal. I've been wanting to self-host, but I've been waiting until I've amassed enough content to justify it in my head as a paranoid poorfag. At least in terms of content with enough wrongthink to actually worry about my standing with my current host. My only solace is that the domain I intend to buy is cheap and unlikely to be taken anytime soon

No. 2503763

i said i don't like identity ideology on my site. hopefully i won't get harrassed by a pack of seething trannies?

No. 2503766

>>2503763
People (read: tifs) are non-confrontational in this sphere. If you're on neocities at most you'll get blocked. I've been open about disliking troon shit for years now and in these 5 years I got maybe 2-3 hate messages in my guestbook and one angry email.

No. 2503783

With the guestbook site I’ve been using going down, what’s a good alternative for guestbooks on neocities?

No. 2503851

>>2500360
>You're perhaps putting too much thought into it
nta but they were right

No. 2503972

>>2503783
I replaced my guestbook with cbox, which is a live chatbox on the page but functions pretty much the same way as a guestbook would. ive gotten more messages this way, but they tend to be more frivolous than an actual guestbook so YMMV.

No. 2504006

>>2502980
Pretentious is a perception and it says a lot about the people perceiving it. Most people are not saying anything about others personally yet if someone has an insecurity and hyperfocused on it they see it everywhere. It isn't about them but they assume it is and go from there.

Hm maybe you could keep the free hosting and try a domain for a year and see how you like it? I'm sure you can direct the domain to neocities or wherever you host.

No. 2504114

>>2504006
Pretentiousness isn't always based in insecurity, though everything can indeed be read neutrally or with intent. That anon's comment lacked context and was understandably perceived as stating something different to what most anons in here are already doing. Thus the perceived pretentiousness.

Digression aside and to keep this on topic; something that I find saves me time is to create base templates for myself to work off of. I tend to make the same type of site (frame/sidebar with interior page, or some variation of that) and so being able to adjust the css and page contents and build for the individual site off of that both saves time and gives me freedom to play around a bit.

No. 2504217

>>2503766
My experience is the same. I just notice TIFs subtweet me on the activity feed but do nothing else. Most users don't read anything past the front page if your site is cute or aesthetic. NC has been the easiest community to fly under the radar.

No. 2504559

>>2503972
I had a cbox, but I had to close it because it was constantly spammed with rape threats. I suppose that’s what you invite when you have somewhere people can say things freely, but I still am annoyed. Do you know if there is any way to have an auto moderator or must I suffer?

No. 2505651

>>2503972
https://www.smartgb.com/ is basically the same as 123guestbook, so a lot of people switched to that. If you're paying to be a supporter, there's also https://virtualobserver.moe/ayano/comment-widget which lets you put comments on your site and can be pretty easily repurposed as a guestbook.

No. 2505978

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Federiefederi have removed their website from the Internet Archive and redirected their website to random YouTube videos.
https://crackworths.neocities.org/federiefederi

No. 2505980

>>2505978
Huh, that page was still active? I thought they deleted it for good after their 3rd attempt at follow-back schemes kek.
I don't know why they're so secretive about it to the point of requesting an I.Arch. removal either, didn't they make people use the NC status to ask then questions because the mods refused to list emails or make a guestbook for "privacy"?

No. 2505994

>>2505980
Their Neocities was deleted for good but they still had https://federiefederi.love. Of course they couldn't do f4f schemes there. I'm more surprised that they're still active even if they're not doing anything in particular.

No. 2506143

>>2504559
Use atabook, it has banned keywords and stuff like that
https://atabook.org/

No. 2506189

>>2505978
this is old news, but i hope the feds grew up after this.

No. 2506191

have been working on my website a ton recently and i saw a lot of people recommend a website called foollovers for resources, but it seems to be down?

No. 2506445

>>2506191
It's up for me right now. Must have been a temporary outage or something

No. 2506624

File: 1746136178172.png (10.44 KB, 149x67, nekoweb.png)

>>2506143
no thanks

No. 2506636

>>2506191
The site goes down for a bit from time to time, look it up in a day or so. In the wrost case, maybe its pages were saved in Internet Archive so you can look it up.
It's one of my go-to places, the marerials are super cute and I love her (?) templates, I tend to take inspiration out of them super often.

No. 2506646


No. 2506647

>>2506624
lol what is that?

No. 2506741

>>2506624
why are you such a hater

No. 2506784

>>2506741
Get outta here tourist

No. 2506833

>>2506741
nekoweb looks like it's one gendie meltdown away from a massive data leak. piss off lmao

No. 2506990

>>2506741
>>2506143
why are gendietards shilling their shit here

No. 2506992

>>2506990
imageboards are cool and edgy and oldweb vibes, didn't you hear? you can even say retard here, just like all those tiktoks said!

No. 2507043

File: 1746162865212.jpg (90.59 KB, 686x536, nekoweb18.jpg)

>>2506624
Fuck off gendie stop shilling your troonshit here. Go back to larping as an imageboard user on 4chan. I'm so sick of nekoweb tranny children namedropping LC for cool points.

No. 2507044

>>2507043
>lolcow is on the same level and worse than the pedochans
troon misogyny is so obvious

No. 2507053

>>2507043
It's so hard not to pray on all of their downfalls. Truly insufferable

No. 2507058

>>2507043
so weird when they just openly admit to getting groomed online into being a tranny like that isnt really telling

No. 2507060

>>2507058
of course he thinks hes a puppy. all of these troons entire identity come from a agp starter pack

No. 2507203

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>>2507043
Eyeorb is a cringe retard anyways
>>2507044
Of course, didn't you know that farmers are 1000x worse than actual pedos and criminals because we don't suck nasty troon dick

No. 2507273

>>2507043
>the site that hosts cp/gravure idol, threads about consuming women, and creepshots of women is worse than the site that criticizes trannies
mask off moment right there

No. 2507316

>>2507273
Yeah, I find people here insufferable at times, but the way they think some catty women are worse than actual nazis (laughing at the "users are either nazis or trans" remark, don't you think anything about that big overlap, hm? Or do you need someone else to tell yoy want to think about that as well?), pedophiles and doxxers says everything I need about trons and their supporters. LC isn't even centered around "twansphobia", we just don't think a man in a dress is a woman, 90% of threads aren't even about them. I wonder if these people even checked this site out.
Anyways, this is another reason of why I prefer to keep most of my internet presence on my personal website, I couldn't stand being around these people for more than 4 minutes.

No. 2507346

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>>2507203
Eyeorb seething at lc is particularly hilarious because she loves mentioning how she goes on/cgl/ yet doesn't know why /cgl/ went to shit in the first place, nor that it's what ended up spawning LC. Alas, she was in diapers when that actually happened kek

No. 2508014

whenb will i be famous(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 2508411

>>2464526
another bitching: i hate when people have a ton of super fast moving marquees on their page, what an ugly overstimulating eyesore

No. 2508968

>>2508411
I used to really like them when I was younger but I grew out of it, I guess. I still like my website to be very active to look at, but I treat it more as an art piece than anything else.

No. 2509327

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(context?)

No. 2509358

>>2509327
Thank you for sharing

No. 2509411

File: 1746302452959.jpg (30.63 KB, 1024x653, 1000013123.jpg)

Nonnas who only use FC2 sitehosting, why? The selling points on the front page seem kinda lackluster aside from the 1gb capacity. I want to host my site there though so I can have both a blog and a site in one place. Is there anything else about it that's good?

No. 2509414


No. 2509578

>>2509411
Back when I used it was to get away from Neocities' follower count. You can avoid the social features via disabling your profile but it was too late for me already as too many people had followed by then.
Having a free host with no social media-esque numbers was what I was looking for. I dislike knowing I have children looking at my site as well kek.

No. 2509580

>>2509411
Peace and quiet. Pretty blog layouts. I like that it's very simple. I don't recall what still exists but they used to have a lot of other features you could add to your blog.

I've used it since 2008.

No. 2510212

the fact that there's so many women identifying as trannies on smallweb and largeweb social media sites like tumblr twitter etc just goes to show that most of these people are retarded teenagers (or mentally teenagers) looking for attention and validation for being different. being a tranny now is like being emo when i was growing up.
>>2509578
there's nothing inherently wrong with the profile features of neocities. if you don't care about it you can ignore it and leave it on just so your site gets more traction. if you care that much you can disable it, even if you already have followers.

No. 2510284

>>2509411
Honestly there's not much advantage to using FC2 Web over Neocities other than free FTP access, which I find better than a drag-and-drop feature. If you want to have a blog and site in one place, I'd say go for it.

No. 2510298

>>2509411
I like that the sites been around for a while so if you make a site/blog it feels real old web, that's kind of it really. Also having an fc2 account lets you make imageboards, forums, video streaming etc it's surprisingly useful

No. 2510361

>>2510212
Yeah that's why I wrote in past tense, I left for NC and Fc2 for another host (she kindly let me host there for free, so I can use my pwn domain, PHP and all that jazz).
I don't care much about traction, I prefer autistics who find my site due to linkages than random zoomers that will look at your homepage for 5 seconds and leave. So NC wasn't giving me anything of value outside being able to find other sites easily, plus I dislike Kyle and don't want to participate on his personal project kek.
To each his own, that's why there's variety.

No. 2510366

>>2510298
Are there any decent active fc2 forums? I abandoned my account because what I found looked dead.

No. 2510476

File: 1746363118331.jpeg (17.87 KB, 178x270, IMG_9836.jpeg)

Yume nonas what do you think of waifu.ist? I've been considering making a site on there but a friend told me kiwifags lurk it to mock the users so I'm not sure. Have you tried it and gotten any kind of attention from them? Anyone know any safer alternatives where, like fc2, it's hard for someone to find you on their own?

No. 2510484

>>2510476
>caring what kiwifats think
Grim, but if it matters that much to you just host your shrine on an alternative like you mentioned, neocities or FC2. I think you should just embrace the unbothered yume life though.

No. 2510486

>>2510476
Most of the sites are just empty to claim their character which I found disappointing. Surprisingly, my husbando does have one but it's empty and a troon made it. I'm planning on making two shrines, one for just him that I'll have a mirror of on waifu.ist that won't link back to my site and one exclusively on my site that is for me x him. Yumes are mocked by everyone though, even fellow farmers. Don't worry about it and just be free.

No. 2510899

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apparently atabook has ads now kekk, i checked dimdens and they're there too so it's for everyone. this is gonna go over well

No. 2511479

drink every time a "queer" webmaster waxes poetic in their website manifesto about how websites should have accessibility features. do people seriously care this much about making their site "not ableist" (lol. lmao, even) or is this another form of virtue signalling?

No. 2511480

>>2511479
i dont get how a website can even have accessibility issues besides tiny ass fonts and autoplay music which is annoying to everybody regardless of disability. and you can just zoom the tab in and mute it so even then.. I think the worst thing you can do for your site is have garrish eyerape neon colors everywhere, i see a lot of younger people do this and its so fucking bad and cant even be worked around

No. 2511489

>>2510484
>kiwifats

KEK

No. 2511493

>>2511480
basically according to these people websites should all have standard boring layouts that can easily work on mobile dynamically, high contrast, alt text on every image (lmao fuck off), basic fonts, day and night mode, and a slew of other boxes to tick to make sure you are not being ableist on your personal site. i hope these people are actively deterred from my site.

No. 2511494

>>2511479
>wants the personal web back with no personalization
>reinvents modern social media
I will literally never get this. I make my own site usable on my phone because it's convenient, but that's it.

No. 2511508

>>2510476
>no ponies allowed
Off to a good start kek
>b-but what if kiwifags make fun of me??
Every single poster on KF is a drooling retard, and the site is just edgy Reddit.

No. 2511522

>>2511479
Either they know people who have vision/hearing problems irl or are virtue signalling, but 90% of the time it's probably the latter.

No. 2511735

>>2511479
I think it's mostly virtue signaling. I understand accessibility if your site is a resource or educational tool so as many people can access it as possible, but personal sites aren't a public service like Google or Craigslist. I never understood how these people can complain about capitalism and how everything needs to be a smartphone app but in the same breath demand personal sites made for fun need to be mobile friendly, readable in every window size, use a certain font for dyslexic people, and give alt tag descriptions for every image. Like this isn't my job lmao

No. 2511772

>>2511735
>use a certain font for dyslexic people
I fucking hate when they shill that ugly ass OpenDyslexic font. I have a little typography autism and also read about accessible web design on occasion and the few times that font has been tested in a controlled setting, it didn't even improve reading rate or accuracy regardless of if the person even had dyslexia in the first place. As far as I can tell wrt to the font itself (not the color/size/background/etc), familiarity with the font is the main thing that helps readability, so I'd respect the virtue signaling more if they were trying to brow beat people into using Times New Roman or Arial (especially the former because it makes a webpage look more oldweb imo), but no. They don't actually give a shit about this stuff beyond surface level shit tiktok's algorithm probably tossed at them the other day.
It's 1000% virtue signaling, they always talk about surface level stuff like contrast and font size and never stuff like ARIA labels, good HTML semantics, and keyboard accessibility that matter way more for disabled users in that those are things that are harder to deal with on the user end (plenty of devices/extensions can natively increase font size and color contrast for example, but you just have to deal with poorly labeled links if you're using a screen reader). Gendies crowing about accessible websites is one of those perfect crossroads of slacktivism (because it's so obvious they're not putting that much thought and effort into their websites) and ignorance that gets me disproportionately mad every time kek

No. 2511827

>>2511479
It is definitely just virtue signaling. A huge part of my job is ensuring our website is compliant with accessibility guidelines (to prevent lawsuits), so I can say with absolute confidence most of them don't even make their sites accessible and haven't done any research beyond basic color contrast ratios. It is embarrassing that people whose websites are held together with tape and glue think they are the arbiters of accessibility, which requires a much more thorough understanding of HTML than they have. Honestly, I find Neocities attracts a lot of hardcore virtue signallers with a "not like other zoomers" superiority complex.

No. 2512359

>>2510899
they've already been removed; if you would actually keep up with services, rather than harking on them like vultures; you would learn it was a test run to see if they were useful.

No. 2512428

>>2512359
The dimden defence force is here. Stop whiteknighting your discord daddy at every chance you get it's obvious.

No. 2512511

>>2511493
My website is mobile friendly but that’s because I like it to be. I use my iPad on it often and most people I share it to view it on phones, it makes sense. But when I see people harassing others for being “ableist” what on earth are you on about!? It’s not the end of the world that some website doesn’t fit on the phone! I swear some people go through websites on neocities just to complain on guestbooks to feel superior. Every time I see a website manifesto like that I mentally save the webmaster as a retard.

Also, as somebody with a huge ass art gallery I sure as hell am not labelling alt text on all of that.

No. 2512713

is there some kind of dogwhistle for easily finding and identifying anons on personal sites? i'm so sick of teenager/tranny/genderspecial sites

No. 2512730

>>2512713
Sounds like a gendie honeypot post but really, women who don't use pronouns or a million troon flag graphics

No. 2513181

I made my site using the help of DeepSeek, is that okay? I'm afraid someone will discover that i did so even though i also worked a lot on my code.

No. 2513222

>>2512713
Just read their about pages and links? I don't understand why nonnies are asking to be spoonfed instead of just looking like in the old internet days.

No. 2513282

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>>2512448
Looks like I struck a nerve. Jumping at the first opportunity to call an anonymous poster ugly, typical troon bootlicker that thinks women's worth is based in their appearance kek. At least call me a retard.

>>2513181
To most people in the smallweb community using AI to make your site is cringe. I haven't bothered proompting in a long while so my knowledge on this is most definitely outdated, take what I said with a grain of salt. AI tends to overcomplicate or do unnecessary things that will be obvious to people that know how to handcraft sites or code in general. It can be decent for helping with one specific task e.g. "help me animate this picture in a specific way" and with some math and logic related areas, but if you prompt it to make you a website from scratch it can be obvious it's AI. Chances of someone f12ing your site in detail are pretty low but not zero.

No. 2513291

>>2512448
>>2513282
Kekkkk TRAs will never beat the sexist allegations. Why are YOU lurking here if you have such a problem with others lurking your shitass nekotroon discord server

No. 2513370

>>2513282
Thanks for the reply, are people still able to see it if i changed the base AI code quite a lot? I'm confused about what could be different in a code that is only divs and images kek.

No. 2513372

>>2513181
I dont think anybody would gaf even if you used ai for the whole thing, i see whole websites (usually by kids) with spaghetti code all the time. since you only used ai partially i doubt its even noticable. it is kinda cheating but if you dont care about coding (besides for making your website obvs) then its not like youre missing out on anything

No. 2513454

>>2513181
>>2513370
Who is gonna stop you? I don't understand why people keep asking permission to do things on their own personal site. What are you afraid of, some teenager with shitty copy pasted code and seizure inducing marquees leaving snide remarks in your guestbook? Just do whatever you want instead of fretting over what the council of the smallweb finds permissible. Be free.

No. 2513522

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>>2513181
I don't get this. If you aren't going to code your website yourself, use a website builder. There's tons of them nowadays, just pick your favorite. You don't have to shit up Neocities some more with AI code.
>buh but i wanna use html! it's just sooooo hard2lern!!!
HTML is, objectively, one of the easiest languages to learn. It's markup ffs. It wouldn't even take more than a day to learn the basics if you tried. When in doubt literally just google it, guaranteed someone has already asked the same question on stackexchange or written an entire tutorial about it. W3Schools exists for a reason. If you need a jumping-off point, Neocities literally provides basic templates and there's tons of free HTML layouts you can find by googling. Hell you can even copy other people's sites.

No. 2513526

>>2513522
I just used AI code as a base, i haven't used it for my whole website. I did code, just not the base. And what exactly am i shitting up? AI code brings problems to the site? If so, i didn't knew, i'm sorry.

No. 2513555

>>2513181
I read a book to make the barebones parts and double checked it with chatgpt. And then I still have issues.
It's probably tied to the Javascript file that linked to it overriding some code but it's not formatted for people so it's a long string of nonsense

No. 2513559

>>2513181
>>2513526
nta but are you new to site building? Like other anons have said, nobody is going to stop you. But, if you are learning to code or looking to get better, then ultimately you are making it harder for yourself, because you are not learning how to build those frameworks and functions from the start, you're not building up simple skills that are the foundations of more complicated ones that will be needed down the line. Plus, a lot of people say it actually takes them longer to clean up generated code than to write from scratch, or edit borrowed code.
I think taking AI-generated code and unfucking it can be a fun skillbuilding activity, like for finding errors and etc, but I don't think it's a good base to start from in most cases, you're just kneecapping yourself right out of the gate. Making a site for fun is supposed to be fun. Why are you doing it if you don't even like it? You know?

No. 2513566

>>2513559
I'm doing it mostly as a visual thing rather than specifically for coding, if that makes sense? I like designing the website. I'm an extreme noob when it comes to site building, yes. I'm not exactly an html hater, just not very interested in coding, to be honest. But i will try nonetheless because my site has a specific goal that i want to achieve.

No. 2513956

>>2513181
I made my website initially years before ai coding was a thing, but as I return to it for updates I used that little ChatGPT helper they put in vscode.

I think, if you explain in detail your issue, and give it the “context” of your code it’s pretty good at helping troubleshoot. I haven’t had any problems so far. I do think it’s important to study alongside using it so you know what it’s spitting out though.

Sometimes when I’m super lazy and can’t be fucked I get it to type basic programming I know how to do kek.

No. 2514078

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>>2513555
>>2513956
did everyone just collectively forget about w3c. god damn you do not need to use ai for this

No. 2514170

>>2513181
What are they going to do if you are "found out"? No need to be so paranoid. If it makes you feel so guilty, then don't use AI to code and look into templates and tutorials.

No. 2514424

>>2514078
Thank you for saying this…. Every resource that existed up until this point hasn't ceased to exist. There's even WYSIWYG editors and programs out there for this.

No. 2518618

does anybody know of any webrings for normal women who don't have arrested development

No. 2518639

>>2518618
Kek do you know where you are

No. 2518643

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>>2518618
I'm sorry anon those women are busy with their growing families

No. 2518668

>>2518618
Facebook

No. 2519029

I have been exploring websites related to my fandom lately almost exclusively, so I don't have many of general interest, but droping again a few random sites I found
https://snow-drops.org/ - Old school site with graphic help and such
https://www.mit.edu/~rei/Birds.html - Mostly an educational site with about pet birds. It has funny anecdotes and photos too.
https://eva.town/posts/design-outside-the-computer - A tranny made this, but I enjoy the free guestbook template he made (you can use some snippeds to make a cute photo gallery for example as well)
https://hallowedtower.net/ - A small site dedicated to Pokemon DPP with random (but useful) info.
https://georgiepiyo.blogspot.com/ / https://gyarusekai.blogspot.com/ - Two gyaru blogs. I'm surprised the first one is even still active today.
https://web.archive.org/web/20131127031516/http://p-ex.com/top.html - It seems to be an art site of some kind? Sadly 90% of images are gone..

>>2518618
Ngl, this gave me a chuckle kek.

No. 2519056

>>2518618
Yeah it's this>>2518643
Source: I started making a website and haven't uploaded it yet because have kids

No. 2519073

>>2518643
weirdass post, go back

No. 2519081

>>2518668
kek anon
>>2519056
>>2518643
yeah i guess this makes sense but part of me wants to believe there's a middle ground between offline normie children-having women who are too busy for hobbies and reeee-ing grown women who have nothing better going for them than neocities drama. i wonder if that's the kinda thing you could even vet? some of the women with the cutest, most unassuming websites who you'd think go outside are doing regina george, mustache-twirling cartoon supervillain type shit behind closed doors kekkk. for such a creative passion and fun hobby you'd think it'd attract women who perfectly tread that line between casual/weirdo, but that isn't the case. guess i'll take my happy ass back to habbo hotel

No. 2519085

>>2519081
i've seen plenty of these type of people on neocities. nekoweb seems to attract more weirdos.

No. 2519890

I make amigurumi and I want to start a site but I'm so overwhelmed and am not sure if it's worth it. Are there any active craft communities on neocities?

No. 2519896

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>>2519890
Please make your site anon. I love Amigurumi but haven't had the courage to start the hobby. There's a tag for it on Neocities but it's mostly empty, I'd love to see more craft sites and 3d art being shared.

No. 2519900

My site has a pretty autistic topic, i wonder if anyone will care? Can't talk about it because it's extremelly specific and could be discovered easily. I would like to be famous, though, i wonder if only cutecore cookie-cutter type sites with the same layout and aesthetic get famous. I want to do something big!

No. 2519902

>>2519890
making a site is totally worth it, i also do crochet. i haven't found any active community but we need one

No. 2519910

>>2519890
I’ve been thinking of starting a site where I just talk about my current craft projects. I do a bunch of different ones including knitting and would love to follow other crafting sites for inspiration and community. I’m hopeful it wouldn’t attract anyone too unsavory and I would be excited to find a site like yours to follow.

No. 2519950

>>2519890
What are you overwhelmed about? website design? coding? would you want to make blog pages for each project and/or have a gallery of the finished projects?

No. 2520576

>>2519900
Why do you want to be famous though?

No. 2520633

>>2520576
I want to spread my ideas and have a community around them. It's so hard to get followers though…

No. 2520639

>>2520633
Getting popular on neocities seems so random, sometimes i see websites that are gorgeously designed with unique assets and a bunch of interesting pages and they have like 40 followers, and then ill see some generic cutecore website with entirely recycled assets, like 3 pages on the whole website, and never gets updated and it has thousands of followers. I really dont get how it works

No. 2520676

>>2520639
You answered it yourself. A big portion of NC's userbase are zoomer kids, they simply see a cutesy/"aesthetic" site and click follow without even looking past the home page.
>>2520633 if you want to have an actual comunity, instead of pandering to these people (if you like how these sites look, go for it though), instead write about what you want to talk about. Actual content will attract people that actually want to interact with you, those 40 followers are way more valuable than 200 that only came for the aesthetic since the later won't look at your site ever again.

For your goal, simply start making your site and grow it slowly, you don't get famous overnight on the personal web sphere. Join webrings, talk to others, comment on guestbooks, etc etc.

No. 2520747

>>2520676
It is depressing how superficial it seems, I wonder what percentage of people actually bother to read through shrines and blogs on people's websites?

No. 2520798

>>2520676
I'm pretty much doing what you say, my site has an appealing layout and assets, i will just keep going and wait for people to follow me naturally. I wonder what would happen if i posted on tiktok.

No. 2520810

>>2520747
people who actually care about indieweb and are trying to get away from the social media mindset most probably read at least 40% of the site they access. You can see through which sites get famous that neocities is full of tiktok cutecore kids and they don't have the attention span to read

what is the point of having a website if you are just going to use the most basic layout, use the assets that everyone uses and talk about absolutely nothing? some websites are clearly just for the aesthetics of having a website.

No. 2520891

>>2520798
Go and make connections with others if you want to be known, don't expect results just waiting for people to come to you. It's possible they will but you'll have an easier time if you put in the work to reach out too.

No. 2521001

>>2520747
I know it's not the point but I love to read shrines. There are many sites with shrines that I think look pretty but disappoint me with the lack of depth. I appreciate webmasters who really ramble about their interests.

No. 2521094

File: 1747015347422.mp4 (4.19 MB, 720x720, bruh_haram.mp4)

For those nonas planning on self-hosting their websites, I really hope you choose to set up a Tor mirror too. I'd like to see more based websites listed on https://letsdecentralize.org/rollcall/tor.html instead of the sausagefest Tor is right now

No. 2521133

File: 1747021285450.jpg (208.48 KB, 647x762, Screenshot_20250512_053641_Sam…)

this https://bimbo.nekoweb.org/index.html blogging program similar to zonelets was created by a tranny and now i'm probably not going to use it out of protest. it seemed somewhat useful at first and then i saw the name of the project and something seemed… off. i did a little digging and yep, would you look at that, its made by a tranny. i instantly clocked that it was made by a tranny because it was so disgusting and random how the project is called "bimbo". why are they like this?

No. 2521137

>>2521133
Doesnt zonelots already exist, which is also just zonelets but better? Also there needs to be an "alice's law" that however much a person online mentions being a "girl" the higher the likelihood of them not being female

No. 2521140

>>2521137
4chan created rule #29 almost 20 years ago
>Rule 29: On the internet men are men, women are also men, and kids are undercover FBI agents.
they've known for a while that the likelihood of a faceless entity mentioning over and over that they're a girl on the internet → 100% a man irl

No. 2521149

File: 1747022972106.jpg (65.39 KB, 630x245, C2vNcRj.jpg)

>>2426717
>>2521133
This 'tagline' or whatever is really fucking creepy, also

No. 2521155

>>2521133
>project named "bimbo"
>made by a man
can't even be surprised at this point

No. 2521160

Why is every tech bro's 'personal website' just a link to his 4 external socials and a portfolio of his tech work? Just call it what it really is: a résumé, not a personal wesite.

No. 2521313

>>2521160
Sadly I didn't save it, but some time ago I read an article about this phenomenon. But yeah, basically since personal websites aren't a thing anymore between "normies", people (be it artists, tech bros or your lawyer) just treat their website as a landing/link page to the site other people actually visit. More often than not they just want a Yourname dot com domain because it seems professional/cool to them and they don't have an interest on actually building a website.

No. 2521434

>>2521313
Thats so true, at least for artists or anyone that makes stuff, they use stuff like linktree and other similar platforms as a "site" I'm using that term so loosely because it's not actually a site. It's really just a hub for all or their social media links. Tech moid sites I've seen are so barebones and that shitty bear blog platform always reminded me of a tech moid site

No. 2522112

>>2521133
not using a tool because of who made it is retarded. you running to say how brave you are for protesting is gay. that being said it looks stupid.

No. 2522172

>>2522112
>not using a tool because of who made it is retarded
It's not when there are alternatives to said tools (that work even better). I buy at the local markets over the gentrified ones any day.

No. 2522291

>>2522112
nta but maybe if the troon that made it didn't insert his fetish into it there would be no reason to care, but participating in work influenced by his coom and marked by his misogyny is something I personally do not want to be a part of kek

No. 2522324

>>2522112
I'm fine with using resources from people with different opinions, but inserting his fetish into the name is the issue to me. The website plugs eleventy as a better SSC, which I use. No point in using a zonelets ripoff with a porn name if you have that.

No. 2522335

>>2522112
oh you are so brave and objective yourself! fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on you sperg.(infighting)

No. 2523008

>>2522112
>defending a useless tranny "tool"
>defending trannies at all
Do you know where you are?

No. 2523343

Any tips to be confident posting to your site? I want to publish some NSFW fanfic but it feels cringe. Should I make a separate site not tied to my personal one for this reason alone?

No. 2523372

>>2523343
>Should I make a separate site not tied to my personal one for this reason alone?
Yes

No. 2523374

>>2523343
Anything is ok, you could also host them on a separate page not linked elsewhere on your site so it stays secret to everyone but you until you're ready. Creating a subdomain or another site can be good for organization as well, and if you feel like it you can (or not) link to it on your main site.
A personal website is your home, there's nothing to be embarrased about. Most people who visit them expect some degree of "weirdness" and if they dislike what you uploaded, the back button is right there. If your content is NSFW then it might be good to separate it from your persona depending on what you write and if you want a creative career, but if it's just because you feel it's cringe then ignore that feeling.

No. 2523420

>>2523343
I don't like her personally but meixins/hellomei does password protect some pages of her website (https://www.hellomei.dev/freakzone) so that could be an option

No. 2523465

>>2523420
Why not? I never heard of this person.

No. 2523489

>>2523465
Ntayrt, but I don't like her because she's a lolicon and a shotacon. She was also removed from the ladies of the link webring for it kek

No. 2523534

File: 1747244003437.jpeg (563.18 KB, 1179x1132, IMG_3279.jpeg)

>>2523465
ayrt, basically for the same reasons previously mentioned. I stumbled upon her site while button wall hopping, thought her site was cute and spent some time reading through it. She seemed fine at first. At the time she had some twitter accounts public and linked so i took a look, but i was literally greeted with fucking deltarune porn of the child characters. I guess I should have seen it coming seeing that her about page states that she likes cute boys, but i didn’t think she meant literal children. No screenshots because this was over a year ago at this point, but i dont even know if i’d feel okay reposting it with how gross it felt just looking at it. She doesn’t have any social media listed publicly on her site right now to my knowledge so idk how deranged she is these days, but i do know she’s on tumblr under the username capysimulator. Other than the more valid reasons of hating her for being a lolicon/shotacon, i think i’m also a bit personally bitter because other than that her overall site and other interests are cool.

No. 2523557

File: 1747245053496.png (53.38 KB, 426x252, 87dfg.png)

First time visiting her page and kek, do you think she makes porn of these ducks?

No. 2523584

File: 1747246688508.gif (92.07 KB, 220x220, hah-classic.gif)

>>2523489
>draws pedophilia art
>is a TRA

No. 2523599

File: 1747247290271.jpeg (864.06 KB, 1179x1602, IMG_3280.jpeg)

>>2523557
100% yes

No. 2523611

File: 1747248333920.jpeg (1.7 MB, 1179x1707, IMG_3281.jpeg)

She literally made a clique dedicated to degenerates such as herself.

No. 2523646

File: 1747250863594.png (168.28 KB, 1909x946, cute.png)

This website is so cute, do you guys know any website that has this aesthetic? It inspires me so much

No. 2523651

>>2523646
that's the average site of a underage owner on neocities, wtf are you talking about

No. 2523659

>>2523651
What do you mean? Most underage sites i see are too colorful and full of wanko-type images, this one is more soft and clearly much more aesthetically pleasing

No. 2523668

>>2523659
Around the pandemic when I made my first site on neocities and started exploring the small web in general a lot of people had personal sites like that. Middlepot's site was probably one of the more popular ones but there were a lot more. Pale kawaii aesthetic never died ever since it became a thing on tumblr. It's kind of stereotyped as the underage anachan lolifag aesthetic but I think it has its place on the indieweb hall of fame because it's so recognizable.

No. 2523675

>>2523659
NTA but lots of kids steal her assets, so I guess that anon was referring to that (she could've been less snappy about it though).
I have been looking into that myself, so I will get you back if I find any. Pooffie was very cute as well but sadly she was deleting (or deleted) her sites soon.

No. 2523677

>>2523646
>>2523659
it's true, i see like a 100 of these every time i browse there. i guess you're in luck. just search any term and click on everything with a thumbnail that looks like a pastel pink block with no discernible content.

No. 2523695

>>2523611
Too bad this is for freaks. The keychain thing is cute, I might steal it

No. 2523723

File: 1747255101411.png (212.28 KB, 1100x525, tumblr_mqetq80sD91roogkmo1_128…)

>>2523646
kek this looks exactly like how every pastel aesthetic blog on tumblr looked in 2011-2014. reposting with a picture to show what i meant. just google "lace pixel kawaii pastel aesthetic tumblr"

No. 2523730

>>2523534
This has got to be a trannoid. I refuse to believe this is a real woman.

No. 2523732

>>2523646
Are you serious right now? Looks like every other Neocities crapsite.

No. 2523741

>>2523695
Genuinely please do, I’d love to see the concept in a non degenerate context.

No. 2523789

>>2523730
i’ve read a lot of her blog posts and i don’t think she is, trannoids can’t refrain from talking about what drugs they’re injecting themselves with.

No. 2523806

>>2523675
I decided to look into the websites that she (strawbunimilk) follows and i found some gems. I think you would like to do so too

No. 2524400

>>2523730
Bio women like this were dime a dozen in Livejournal anime fandoms.

No. 2526509

>>2523675
Alot of her assets are stolen aswell even tho she claims she created all of them

No. 2526546

>>2526509
Yeah those lace borders look like foollovers made them

No. 2526616

>>2526509
is this the chick whose followers bullied _15mimi_ for having similar art styles even tho strawbunimilk was the one copying her?

No. 2527031

>>2526509
she's been caught tracing and stealing art before as well. its part of why she's not as active on deviantart anymore.

No. 2527621

>>2527031
Damn do you have sources on that? Is that part of the reason why she rebranded from uniicake to strawbunimilk? a shame I found her art and site cute

No. 2527634

>>2523343
just curious, why not post it to fanfic sites like ao3? I agree with other anons that posting it separately from your personal site is best. Keep your online selves compartmentalized

No. 2527687

>>2523646
this girl's persona looks like straight up lolibait shit, i cant even say im surprised she's a gendie

No. 2527714

>>2527687
I always associate that art style with ddlg

No. 2527790

>>2526509
Her help page was copy pasted from middlepot's but she got backlash for not giving credit and tweaked the words instead lol

No. 2527949

a really popular site on neocities stole a lot of my concepts/code kek i don't even know if i should be flattered or annoyed. they even stole sentences and the way i worded certain things. i know this happens all of the time on the internet but its still a bit irrit lol

No. 2527954

>>2527949
can you elaborate or is it too specific

No. 2527958

>>2527954
i'll tell you the person that took "inspiration" ahem is some disgusting trans identifying female

No. 2528294

>>2527958
nta, but i'm so curious. you should expose her anon

No. 2528310

>>2527958
Also nta but pleaaaase either more hints or expose her

No. 2528363

>>2527958
you should namedrop.

No. 2528452

>>2472072
anon are you still here? please make momoga if you have time!

No. 2528563

File: 1747631671128.png (10.38 KB, 94x55, ahf_momonga.png)

>>2528452
ayrt, of course!

No. 2528615

>>2527949
i think it's fine if people copy code and ideas. i might be in the minority here but copying is how the web used to be when creating content was more commonplace outside of uploading stinky pictures and videos to instagram and tiktok. looking at people's source code and taking what you like is no different than any other form of taking inspiration, and no its not equivalent to tracing; tracing would be like if you literally ctrl+c ctrl+v somebody's ENTIRE source code. i do find it weird how she went so far as to copy the things you've said though now THAT'S weird as hell

No. 2528917

>>2527949
>they even stole sentences and the way i worded certain things
Fucking hell. These types are the lowest of the low

No. 2528947

>>2523646
I checked her neocities and found it pretty cute and well made. I wasn't really interested in making my own site and I don't browse this thread often, but now I'm actually considering it. Perhaps I should learn how to code

No. 2529022

File: 1747672984288.jpg (36.79 KB, 400x394, cheers.jpg)

>>2528947
I've had https://www.theodinproject.com/lessons/foundations-introduction-to-html-and-css bookmarked for a while. It looks pretty thorough. Plus they have (free) lessons on other programming languages if you ever decide to do more than HTML/CSS. I sincerely hope this helps

No. 2529120

Does anyone have backups of cocorini's codes or resources? I noticed her tumblr is gone and I really liked her stuff..

No. 2529139

>>2529120
use wayback machine

No. 2529171

>>2529120
damn i forgot her username but her themes were so iconic

No. 2529234

>>2527621
she bullied the person she stole from off of the internet after a smear campaign of claiming they were "being ableist about age regression" to her, so afaik the proof is long-gone. the person they stole from had a deviantart username along the lines of "sweetybel" or something similar, if that's anything. and yes this is when she suddenly rebranded from uniicake to strawbunimilk and starting going really hard into the lolibait art (as in, even harder than before).

No. 2529623

>>2528615
I completely agree. The way how I began my site was copying the base code, then altering it to my needs. Usually by frankensteining more code kek. Eventually I rewrote most of my things from scratch anyway, but I simply find it stupid when people witchhunt about it. I think of it more like referencing another person’s art piece when you’re drawing.

No. 2529704

File: 1747703618439.png (9.77 KB, 770x130, tard.PNG)

Why is this fat retard always drama baiting?

No. 2530091

>>2529704
I noticed she unfollowed me. She must have been doing a guilty by association terf cleansing kek

No. 2530112

File: 1747739502503.jpg (658.71 KB, 1080x1276, not the slurs.jpg)

>>2529704
the bait worked lmao

No. 2530157

>>2530112
>the bait worked
kek no it didn't, that insinuates someone from neocities took her bait but we all know it's a farmer from the typing cadence. some retard itt saw the above post and was clearly inspired by it. ironic too considering what the 30 year old farmers on the indie web get up to when no one's looking.

No. 2530198

>>2530157
At least the farmers arent seeking the approval of gendies and children

No. 2530201

I want to use neocities to start a blog, is there any good layout templates specifically for blog sites?

No. 2530223

>>2529234
shit, I remember that, I think strawbunimilk got backlash for the "ablesit" post and deleted it. do you remember or have any clues on the username of the OG artist? I really liked her art and I can't find any trace of the username 'sweetybel'

No. 2530284

>>2530198
yeah, guess they're too busy doing daddy kink roleplay and doxxing harmless autistic women and faking being nice to their faces instead. i wonder how the woti webring master feels about that, if she even knows.

No. 2530317

>>2530201
Repth has some nice layouts that would work for blogging.

No. 2530376

>>2530201
Tessisamess makes layouts for Livejournal sites that could work on Neocities. Sadgrl's archived site also had some old school styled layouts for a nostalgic type of online journal.

No. 2530393

>>2481818
That wasn't me. Today is the first time I've looked at this site in 2 months. kek(personalityfagging)

No. 2530403

>>2530376
Repurposing livejournal layouts is a great idea. I hadn’t thought of that before. Thank you nona.

No. 2530416

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No. 2530523

>>2530284
>doxxing harmless autistic women
do you know where you are..?

No. 2530530

What's your favorite part of making a shrine? The layout or the research? I love compiling all the information together at the end, it's so satisfying.

No. 2530543

>>2530530
I love incorporating elements from the source material's HUD into the shrine CSS! Mine is a JRPG so its fun to add an interactable "character menu" as the navigation tab

No. 2530577

I just started working on my shrine for Dragalia Lost. It's really fun to make a layout based off of something you like and to make the pages for the characters. Everyone should make shrines, they're fun to browse too

No. 2530602

>>2529234
Nona, were you by any chance part of the "kawaii community" on dA?

No. 2531167

>>2530523
doxxing isn't allowed on this website, retard, it's in the rules. can't tell if you're larping as a newfag in a poor attempt to throw people off the drama like aaallllll the above anons switching topics or if you're genuinely that stupid.
>>2530416
why don't you post those images of that girl whose pictures you edited to your site then, see if you can muh free speech the woti admin then? better yet why not make a shrine of the doxx gdoc you got since the woti admin doesn't "police content"? don't be obtuse, you know doxxing is illegal. you know it real well and personally, actually. you all do.
this thread is so fucking compromised, kek.

No. 2531219

>>2531167
are you gonna back up your claims with any evidence or are you just assmad you didnt get invited to the special clique kek

No. 2531222

File: 1747795458384.png (36.06 KB, 817x198, leak.png)


No. 2531227

File: 1747795674737.jpg (1.8 MB, 1878x820, 1727292064671.jpg)

>>2531222
>mizuki
>harmless autistic woman
I don't condone doxxing but autism does not negate being a diaperfag ageplay lolicon

No. 2531230

>>2531227
Wasn't she a racefaker MTF larper too? I remember having to leave the Cafe Rose server because her presence made me so uncomfortable and I know I'm not the only one.

No. 2531231

>>2531227
mizuki is not the autistic woman who was doxed. several different doxes involved from the same group.

No. 2531234

>>2531231
Several? Like who?

No. 2531237

>>2531231
Are you referring to travelling healer? I find her off-putting but I dont associate or excuse the tards that doxx her appearance and family because she happened to be a bit schizo with her husbandofagging.

No. 2531243

>>2531227
ew isnt the pink anime girl from that scat rape torture porn vn with a bunch of teenage girls… why do pickmes pretend to enjoy that shit its so embarassing

No. 2531255

>>2531227
I can’t get over how Mizuki is a real life Kikomi. ftmtf.

No. 2531278

>>2531222
What is this about? It's off site, unrelated to LC at all. People can search up public information all they want if they're interested.

No. 2531323

>>2531222
if you wanted to talk about "the drama" so badly then why did you censor every single milky part of this screenshot?

No. 2531325

>>2531231
namedrop or gtfo thread retard

No. 2531330

why do people do that shit where their website is closed some days? like whats the point? if im browsing new websites and i see that i just make it a point to never go on that website again because it annoys me so much

No. 2531338

>>2531227
not who i was talking about being doxxed but
>autism does not negate being a diaperfag ageplay lolicon
KEKKK you're in for a treat when you find out who did the doxx. some real pot kettle shit.
>>2531237
not sure but i struggle to think of any other group who would care enough to do such a thing.
>>2531234
>>2531237
DA but the women in question who were doxxed and doing the doxxing are in the woti webring, as well as the other farmer-made webrings. i don't want to reveal anything about who the victims are specifically because the last thing i want to do is stress them out and air their personal info out here, but they really are harmless women just chilling with their websites.
>>2531325
don't worry i promise the most decadently milky compilation soon, caps and all. wait for me anonita. mwah

No. 2531452

>>2531330
It truly is retarded. Didn't that old melonking guy start that trend?

No. 2531530

>>2530543
This is such a good idea!

No. 2531550

File: 1747834924589.png (327.42 KB, 1024x602, Screenshot 2025-05-21 084040.p…)

>>2523646
i wanted a commission from this person one time and they wanted to charge CRAZY prices

No. 2531561

>>2531550
Her personal art and web drama aside, $250 is actually a fine price for a full illustration. Most artists online undercharge due to how saturated the online art commission business is. She stands out even more by having a cutesy and well-designed personal site, at least in comparison to others.

No. 2531575

File: 1747837512556.png (68.65 KB, 389x498, chud-chuddha.png)

i will NOT fall for the iframe layout propaganda, i will not fall for the iframe layout propaganda… iframes are for plebs

No. 2531579

>>2531575
I too need to be blackpilled on iframes, I was planning on using them for my latest site section.

No. 2531580

>>2531575
What's wrong with iframes

No. 2531584

>>2531579
>>2531580
iframes are just bad practice. other than them being useful for the lazy and uncreative types that just want every page on their site to have the size boxy miniature layout, using iframes in that way is just bad practice and not what iframes are even for. they're meant to be a one-off tool rather than abusing them to make a core part of your layout embedding other pages into your homepage. if you can do it without an iframe, then you should. as an aside just to put my own opinion here, i also think using them is so creatively bankrupt. literally kills all the fun out of making a new layout for every page. its fine when its used very sparingly but i can think of dozens of sites off the top of my head that abuse the shit out of iframes.

No. 2531588

File: 1747838885368.jpg (630.56 KB, 1080x1267, Screenshot_20250521_164541_Sam…)

>>2531330
Wow this is so retarded. I just saw it for the first time in the wild myself. For people that claim to hate social media, people on social media sure do love to mindlessly follow the horde and copy off each other… exactly like social media. Like what is the fucking point of this? Who or what is this helping exactly?

No. 2531589

>>2531588
they're just being uppity retards because of their custom domain and DNS settings. when you have your own domain name, you can easily just set up every url on your site to redirect to "x.com/closed" for example, and then turn it off the next day. the fact that they do this just to flex on having a $2 a year domain name is so unbelievably pathetic.

No. 2531598

>>2531588
>rest and recovery is important
>user just goes to xitter to argue with people

No. 2531604

>>2531584
>>2531575
i'm a noob and don't know much about the advantages of these methods but i'm using iframe on my journal page so that all my journal entries are accessible on one page. is it bad practice and should i have used tabs instead?

No. 2531606

>>2531604
how are your journal entries created? are they separate html pages per entry? XML feed?

No. 2531616

>>2531606
they're separate pages

No. 2531634

>>2531616
if you have a static layout for your journal page, and you do not use a static site generator to create the HTML pages, and all that is contained within the HTML pages for your entries is just the entry itself and nothing else, then i think you can keep using iframes OR switch to javascript; javascript is always the better choice, especially in place of iframe when iframe isn't necessary.

the great thing about javascript is that it fetches and parses the raw data, so you don't actually have to style the individual journal entries whatsoever. if you include all necessary css tags in your main layout, then the javascript will just use those. this also makes it possible for you to not even include a .html extension for your journal entry – that way, the data is displayed inside the frame/box, but it doesn't show up as an individual page on your site. you can do all sorts of fun things like that with javascript. i used to do this for changelogs! let me update the changelog without editing the index.html, embed it into the page, use already established css, and not have an unncecessary extra html page in my directory that can create SEO problems.

No. 2531661

>>2531550
I commissioned her a long time ago and it wasnt a fun experience. She ignored all the details and revisions I asked because "it didn't look good on her style". Wish she had said that she wanted to tweak my OC design before taking me as a client

No. 2531743

>>2531452
Yeah. And you can go to his site for the code too… I've seen it linked on sites I like to look at occasionally (thank fucking god that they don't use it)
>>2531452
>>2531452

No. 2531814

>>2531580
NTA but my main issue with them is that it's a bit bothersome when it comes to check the pages' updates. Sometimes you have to manually refrest the cache via opening the frame in a new page to view the new changes, so there's times I accidentally miss updates because when I clicked the frame it showed the old cache page.

No. 2531820

>>2531661
damn and for 250 fucking dollars? in this economy?

No. 2531831

>>2531820
I think artists have bills to pay like everyone else but if she's still tracing aint no way it's worth 250$

No. 2531837

>>2531634
thank you anon! i just redid it using jquery instead, it fortunately functions as before and if anything it might save me a bit of site space in the future.

No. 2532186

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Do any other sites or forums with a dress up function like Gaiaonline exist? I suddenly remembered that site from when I was a kid and am missing it.

No. 2532198

>>2532186
Gaia is still online and kind of active

No. 2532268

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>>2532186
They do, but they're all trash heaps sadly and all of their forums are dead or just twitter politics bait.
I think Everskies might have the coolest and biggest amount of items to dress up with but I have no idea how currency earning works anymore and ever since they got bought by a bigger company they got really greedy.
Gosupermodel is a scandi dressup site with an inclusivity team so you can imagine how that looks like. I've heard of people getting away with being terfy and slightly edgy on gaiaonline while all other communities that I know of are pretty extreme in their politics allowing for only one line of thought and discussion.

If you like weeby stuff everskies or gaia is your best option. Keep in mind you can never have legit discussions about media on everskies, I tried participating in anime/manga clubs but since it's populated by young zoomers/gen alpha nobody understands forum etiquette.

No. 2532277

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>>2532186
As >>2532268 mentioned, Everskies has a pretty extensive wardrobe, way more customisable than other dress-up forums I tried. You'll have to have a will of steel to be able to handle the social forums, it's a complete tranny trainwreck and full of wokescolds. There's a few normal people if you can handle being crypto, but you need to be careful to not get banned. There's trading which is quite fun, events are held frequently and there's often collabs between the artists on site for new lines of items. I honestly really love the dress-up feature of the game and have wanted to bring it up on LC and see what other nonnas make, but that's just wishful thinking on my part.

No. 2532278

>>2532186
I just wish TekTek were still a thing. I used to have hundreds of designs saved.

No. 2532281

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>>2532277
I used to play it very actively, but I stopped around 2023. I got dangerously closed to being banned and my name turned up in a lot of terf blocklists so I transferred my whole wardrobe to an alt account and never looked back. I barely log in anymore sadly. Before the voting system started sucking I used to get top 10 in competitions very often, it was so fun.

No. 2532311

why does personal web attract so many genderspecials and trannoids. fucks sake i can't anymore with these mentally ill degens

No. 2532414

>>2532311
that's just any place on the internet that doesn't tell them to get the fuck out. it's just not easy to get used to it.

No. 2532434

>>2532311
Makes sense considering they don't touch grass and creating a blog is the most exercise they will get

No. 2532515

>>2532277
>>2532268
Ayrt, thanks I never heard of everskies. These avatars are so cute so I will give it a try.

No. 2533120

Sometimes it's kind of mind-boggling how much NSFW/SFW stuff bleeds into one another on the modern internet but ESPECIALLY on the smallweb. A lot of stuff is maybe 1-2 jumps away from being on some really degenerate shite. For all the issues the old web had, it was at least assumed that SFW was the default, and there were warnings (no matter how toothless) to keep people from accidentally clicking through to a porn site. Now it's just completely mixed together. Even sites marked SFW sometimes wind up linking to NSFW sites. It's a mess

No. 2533137

>>2533120
eh, idk about that. i'm not old but being a few clicks away from porn was unfortunately my experience browsing online as a kid around 2006, it's why my parents didn't let me go online for a long time. the old internet was super "free speech" oriented and that included porn too, although some communities were definitely more closed off compared to twitter

No. 2533140

>>2533120
Luckily in my experience all sites I stumble upon that host NSFW content have obnoxious "Gross shit ahead, adult site, no minors allowed!!!!!" on their landing page so I haven't had any surprises yet, unlike social media where I'm greeted by porn on fandom/general tags and on FYPs.
At the end of the day often linkages are just a list of sites the webmaster enjoys and don't necessarily have to follow the same theme/rules and the site, so it's nornal in a way. As long as the link page or website itself warns about the content, I don't find a problem with it. Though I agree that if the person linking to the NSFW sites is an all-ages page, they should have a separate section for such things.

No. 2533368

>>2532311
honestly i can never tell if someone with TRANS RIGHT NOW! buttons and shit like that is just a retarded naive female being an "ally"/virtue signalling or if they themselves are actually a tranny.

No. 2533483

>>2533368
Doesn't matter to me what they are, that button is enough to make me close the tab on their site.

No. 2533610

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https://mxashlynn.gay/
Worst Neocities page I've come across in a while.
Webmaster is an ogre troon who makes porn games about his fetish for lesbian monster girls and high school dating simulators.
The image he put of himself on the index makes me barf.

No. 2533618

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>>2533610
I was curious what his code looked like and saw this on his homepage. Interesting that he only wants to work with other men with a porn addiction who play dress up. Also kekkk at his hairline

No. 2533941

>>2533610
>poly and trans
>the ugliest human you can imagine
classic

No. 2534253

>>2528615
Sometimes I take entire chunks of code or ideas out of someone's page and implement it directly into mine. What are they going to do? Hunt me down and block me? If piracy is okay then stealing code is okay too. Same goes for art too, I don't give a shit. All's fair in love and war when it comes to digital assets.

No. 2534752

>>2534253
Who the fuck said that piracy is ok? If you are not capable of creating something without stealing just say so

No. 2534790

>>2534752
> If you are not capable of creating something without stealing just say so
Lol, everyone online just steals and copies each other. Nothing is original. I mean, there are only so many ways you can build a site. Nobody is reinventing the wheel, they just mix it of enough to make it look different enough to call it "original."

No. 2534796

>>2534253
I agree, as long as youre not ripping an entire website than its not really a big deal. its not like neocities websites have insanely complicated code that takes a ton of time and skill to write. its more about the assets and colors you use to style it

No. 2534799

>>2534752
>Who the fuck said that piracy is ok?
nta, but lolcow is an IB so piracy tends to be pretty kosher. But even among normies, it's not hard to find people okay with piracy when the legal option is paying for a shitton of streaming services when they're watching one or two shows/films from each at best. I personally don't get what the big deal is when it comes to stealing assets for a personal website, especially if you're not trying to profit off said assets. There's a difference between just using a pretty border you found and selling that border or passing it off as your own creation.

No. 2534917

>>2534752
Piracy is okay, big corporations who will stay rich like Disney and Adobe lose nothing from someone pirating a movie or an old copy of Photoshop. I wouldn't consider people's non-professional personal art under assets to use like code and software.

No. 2535125

>>2533140
There was that troon in the last thread whos whole site was a mess of hundreds of hardcore porn images with his selfies on there too. There was no warning iirc and he didn't mark it 18+ because he shows up on activity

No. 2535165

>>2534790
I've taken pieces of code/had pieces of mine taken, no problem, but there are many sites that just take entire layouts without changing anything. The 100% copy and pasted Purinland/Swirl sites are an epidemic, for instance.

No. 2535198

>>2531550
You shouldn't be buying art if you think that's a high price, art is not food, it's a luxury, don't be cheap. Anyways i've seen art MUCH MORE expensive than that and i think it's more than fair.

No. 2535207

>>2534752
there's a difference between copying how someone does text shadows or borders vs copying entire layouts, dumbass. i can assure you leaf the themlet from neocities dot org isn't the first person to ever use "border: 1.5px solid green;"

No. 2535215

>>2535207
Where's the difficulty in simply having your own ideas? Why tf are you making a website if you don't even have ideas yourself? Just give up then.

No. 2535222

>>2535215
i personally haven't taken snippets of code, but i generally don't see the harm in it as long as it's not stealing whole layouts and assets like people have done with swirl/cloverbell/etc. nothing is ever truly original when it comes to html and css, and both have their limitations. you sound like you've been snorting too much of hatsu's crayon scribble manifesto

No. 2535231

>>2535215
please quit acting like you're so special for coming up with… literally nothing special. there's thousands of amazing websites out there that just copy off each other because the ideas are GOOD. if nobody is copying your site then your site is shit. that's just how art works. clearly you haven't read the copyheart manifesto and you're getting all your self esteem points from your neocities site.

https://copyheart.org/manifesto/

No. 2535242

>>2535231
Lmao no need to shill your cope manifesto. People who don't have ideas need so many mental gynastics to feel a bit better about themselves, i'm very happy with my website and the fact that i have unique ideas, an unique layout and beautiful assets, instead of assets taken from asterism or some shit like that. I just think that people whitout creativity should not annoy people who have novel ideas.

No. 2535247

>>2535242
>novel ideas
nta but kek. let's see your beautiful assets and unique layout. surely it isn't a 2 or 3 column website like everyone else's.

No. 2535249

>>2535242
LMAO oh my god you are so up your own ass. you will never post your site here because you are a pussy, like everyone else that whinges about how amazing and unique they are, you are too scared to actually get judged. come on then let's see your 100% ORIGINAL ASSETS you retard. i am sure there isn't anything on your site that hasn't been taken from elsewhere, right?

No. 2535256

>>2535249
Actually yes, there's nothing in my website from another site. I'm not posting here because i'm not retarded and i have things to lose. But i'm sure your website is literally just like the others. I'm secure of what i did and i'm very proud, yeah. I don''t need to feel offended by someone talking about people who copy others because i'm not copying people myself. If i was, maybe i would be exactly like you, seething over a lolcow post kek. What happened, nonnie? Do you use asterism assets? Sorry, didn't mean to offend your generic personal website with shrines and a blog, definitely not like the others. I'm not scared of being judged and i would LOVE to post my website here if i were not a crypto.

>>2535247
Be shocked, because my website is not a 2/3 column website like the others. Anyways, I know my website is unique.

No. 2535257

>>2535256
this sounds like that one 18 year old baby mama that gets posted in these threads. the terrible grammar and i'm-not-like-the-other-girls attitude coupled with the most generic looking site ever that definitely has assets stolen makes it seem like her for sure.

No. 2535259

>>2535256
What is wrong with having shrines and a blog exactly? I bet your website is so boring. Make a portfolio if you're so proud of your "digital design" and stop polluting the personal web sphere with your nonsense. I bet you also have an unhealthy disdain for AI.

No. 2535262

>>2535259
Just the fact that everyone has that in their websites, i'm curious to know how people can't come up with new things to put in their website, it's crazy how everyone is absolutely the same everytime. I see ONE personal site and i can tell you how every single other will be. Home, about me, shrines, microblog/blog and some other autistic shit like adopts.

Nah, i don't care about AI tbh. My problem is humans not having creativity.

No. 2535263

>>2535256
my website would mog the absolute shit out of yours. your website would see my website and get a BBL and fox eye lift from the scalp.

No. 2535264

>>2535262
Whatever you say, baby mama. Spend less time being insufferable and more time taking care of your unfortunate crotch goblin.

No. 2535265

>>2535256
>I'm not scared of being judged and i would LOVE to post my website here if i were not a crypto.
excuses, excuses. you come in here and shit up the thread with that holier-than-thou attitude then don't even have the guts to show off your ever-so-stellar site that's never been done before. either woman up or piss off.

No. 2535269

>>2535256
Damn for real? Your personal website is THAT amazing and creative? I hope I come across it so I can steal– I mean borrow lots of yummy things hehe. Hope you don't mind.

No. 2535272

>>2535269
Feel free to do so. The superior one is still me anyways

No. 2535274

>>2535257
The one who's lowkey a nazi tradwife?

No. 2535301

>>2535274
yep it's her, look at how she's dodging the accusations. crazy how an underdeveloped teenage mother thinks she's superior to literally anybody and cannot quit stroking her ego in these threads. i've been on her site and she obviously uses other people's codes/graphics, i don't even know why she's lying.

No. 2535303

>>2511479
>>2511480
i'm super late but as someone who worked (and still does sometimes) in accessibility, i'll bite.
if a disabled person isn't able to read horrible takes in some little blog in the ass end of the internet, it's not much of a real problem. the blog creation platform and tools themselves should be properly accessible, but that's a different part of the standard.
>is this another form of virtue signaling
yes. i wonder if these people actually sat down and read the standard or are just parroting stuff from elsewhere. there's a lot to this field that isn't just cut and dry like
>>2511493
>alt text on every image
alt attribute yes, alt TEXT is a slightly different story
>standard boring layouts
as long as the code is in the right order, you can experiment a lot with the way it looks on the page
>>2511772
>>2511827
yes, 100% all of this
>>2523646
>>2523723
i remember seeing sites with this type of look as far back as 2004…

No. 2535306

>>2535301
you are an schizo and obsessed with a random confused mother. keep thinking i'm that person, i don't want to be known in lolcow

No. 2535315

>>2535301
honestly, it could either be her or hatsu. the manifesto on her site and her squawking about "muh assets" reeks of hatsu and her attention-seeking spergouts.

No. 2535321

>>2535315
who's hatsu? i want to see her site, if she's that annoying then i want to follow her kek

No. 2535324

>>2535306
>>2535321
shut up retard nobody likes you. your rant upthread about how speshul your site is, was SO embarrassing. and quit changing your typing style lmao(infighting)

No. 2535327


No. 2535328

>>2535321
lurk moar newfag, she's been mentioned in multiple threads at this point.

No. 2535333

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>>2535324
gurl(integrate)

No. 2535357

who do i get in touch with to join the based stacys webring?

No. 2535364

>>2535315
hatsu's wall of shame was funny i don't know why everyone hated it

No. 2535370

>>2535321
She's on nekoweb now

No. 2535378

>>2535357
the page says it's invite only but you can send them an email through their form. orrrr i can drop the admin list

No. 2535459

>>2535198
Okay but $250 for a glorified chibi is kind of crazy.

No. 2535498

>>2535378
do it, just delete later.

No. 2535505

>>2535262
>autistic shit like adopts.
Tell me you never experienced the old web without telling me you never experienced the old web.

No. 2535510

>>2535459
Art has no fixed price. If the artist values her work that way, then let it be.

No. 2535516

>>2535459
It's really not when you break it down by hours. like if an art piece takes 8 hours and costs 200$ thats 25$ an hour which is a fair wage for a freelance artist

No. 2535517

>>2535262
What else are you supposed to put on your personal website? Things I wanted to put on mine (mp3s, scans, etc.) are against TOS because of copyright. What do you have on your site that is so unique?

No. 2535523

>>2535517
I've seen people put both magazine scans that they scan themselves and mp3s with music players on their sites and nothing happens. I don't think you should worry about it.

No. 2535530

>>2535523
Ayrt, this is true, I guess I've seen that too. I wanted to make a section thst has the downloads available, like CDs and such but I still think that it may be a problem.

No. 2535534

>>2535530
Oh I see what you mean, maybe make playlists instead? Or link to general sites with music downloads to be vague

No. 2535592

>>2535459
Then what would be a good price for a glorified chibi?

No. 2535620

>>2535262
>t's crazy how everyone is absolutely the same everytime. I see ONE personal site and i can tell you how every single other will be. Home, about me, shrines, microblog/blog and some other autistic shit like adopts.

Do you not believe that there's variety when it comes to shrine subjects and art styles for adoptables? Come on. Post your website or give us hints so we can judge it for ourselves.

No. 2535732

>>2535517
I have a section for scans (misc stuff, from fanzines to plush tags and game manuals) and had no problems. If you host on Neocities unlike me, then even less so since all you might get is your site blocked/deleted.
For MP3s, I would just link to Youtube video and such since records are so anal with copyright, but with magazines you're more free, specially if they're old. If you write a disclaimer in the lines of "I don't own anything here, this page is for informative porpouses only. Contact me for take-downs" it should be fine.

No. 2535739

>>2535262
Are you >>2449784 as well? I'm curious as to why you dislike blogs and shrines so much. Is it simply that you find them too mundane and boring? One of my favorite things about personal sites is getting to have a peek into someone's world. The layout and web design are secondary to me, a well designed site will impress me of course but nothing is more memorable than the snippets of writing about someone's life, especially if they're recalling a distant memory or writing about something they're passionate about. That's the point of a personal site after all, to have a space to do anything you want with it! I don't think sites having similar sections makes them the same at all, the writing and personal taste of each webmaster makes them wildly different and unique. I wish you'd share your site with us too because I love art and am an artist myself but I also understand why you wouldn't self post. Hopefully you find more sites that fit your standards, though I do hope that you can one day realize how wonderful it is to have the privilege to have such an intimate view into some internet stranger's life. I think it's really beautiful.

No. 2535778

>>2535324
I liked watching you fall for rage bait anon

No. 2535791

>>2535378
drop it drop it

tbh i really don't get the "ugly-on-purpose" loq quality aesthetic that so many sites go for. is there really NOTHING else they can think to do other than a poor job of nostalgia baiting for the old web that they probably weren't even born yet for

No. 2535815

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I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion but I have a big distaste for photoshop-heavy/image-heavy layouts, where the actual CSS/HTML design is very plain but the pages have heavy imagery in comparison. Maybe it's because this is all I would see for so many years on the internet growing up in the 2000s, but stuff like this https://www.instagram.com/00sbloglayouts/ really makes my blood boil when I see it nowadays. Maybe it just hasn't been that long for the nostalgia to properly set in, maybe from now that type of design won't be so cheugy to me anymore. But it's weird because early 2010s designs doesn't feel cheugy to me at all anymore, yet those 2000s graphic heavy ones still do. There's just something annoying about spending 99% of your time for your site in photoshop rather than in the code itself.

No. 2535824

>>2535739
Ntayrt but this is cute and such a sweet way to view personal websites.

No. 2535825

>>2535815
I love them personally.

No. 2535832

>>2535739
I feel like I have to compensate by having a nice web design since I struggle with blogging nowadays. Writing personal stuff came easier to me but right now I just blank on what to write.
Do any nonas have any tips on how to overcome block or what type of blog entries you enjoy to read?

No. 2535842

>>2535815
I love websites with a blend as the forefront. If you tried to make a blend yourself, you'd probably appreciate them more. That kind of graphic design just doesn't exist anymore except for those who are nostalgic for it and I love seeing them.

No. 2535844

>>2535815
agreed, sites with more complex html/css are way more fun to visit

No. 2535860

>>2535815
Bad take. These are cool and nostalgic because someone actually creates them unlike 95% of neocities with stolen assets. it's the boring geocities web 1.0 clones with the windows 98 layout that are cheugy. I'm so tired of seeing the same shit on every site.

No. 2535959

her website must be boring as fuck if she thinks having a blog is narcissistic or talking about any autistic interest is bad. also has a huge anal retention mf if she is that careful with her words on a fucking website community full of autismos and children. not any authenticity at all, boring as fuck. having a self-made coded website isn't a personality if everything else is mid.

at least autismos and kiddos on neocities are entertaining with their ways

No. 2536005

>>2535815
idk, i grew up with these sort of sites and i like them a lot. they feel more personal especially if the user made the graphics themself. but honestly a lot of the old graphics didnt age very well and kinda just look like visual clusterfucks

No. 2536039

>>2535815
I have a soft spot for them. It reminds me of when I used Neopets and would edit my pet's webpages back when the site let you do that. I had no patience or desire to actually learn html/css beyond the bare minimum at the time, so I'd overcompensate with "nice" image assets and palettes (using quotation marks because I had zero sense for what looked good kek). But yeah, it's not very interesting in a web-design sense and I do kinda associate it with children in my head.
>>2535832
I use my website to showcase a long-term artistic project and I have a bad habit of watching too much media-analysis videos and/or thinking of other people's work and letting my own stuff fall by the wayside, so I like reading blogs where people talk about their own hobbies. Reading people actually DOING things (even if I don't personally care or know about their hobby) helps me get into the mindset to work on my stuff.

No. 2536221

Is there a way to archive a copy of middlepot's site? The website is removed from the web archive and it's way too good to become lost media

No. 2536251

I started reading this thread when bored and jesus fucking christ nonnies I made my own neocities page and I've been working on it all night and day with 4 hour break for a nap I've never felt so autistic fucking around with html and css tutorials just does something to my brain like drugs

No. 2536253

>>2536221
archive.md maybe

No. 2536266

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>>2536221
this sounds like a whole lot of yap just to say "i'm a tradthot stay at home mom now that has no time and/or husband does not allow me to spend time on the internet"

No. 2536372

>>2536266
at least she knows that it's better to focus on raising her kids, i just hope she's the one making the choices and not her nigel.

No. 2536375

>>2536372
dumb take. there is no reason for her to wipe any traces of her site(s) off the internet if she just wanted to focus on raising her kids. how nice of you and her to propagate the tradthot myth of mothers not having time to do anything for themselves other than take care of children, lmao. something definitely smells.

No. 2537010

i just found this weird ass attention whore
https://i026net.neocities.org/
and for a second it was like okay whatever its just another edgy teenager
but i clicked on one of their photos and it led me to this
EXTREME NSFW WARNING
https://i026net.tumblr.com/post/774109231482880000
i can't tell if they're genuinely uploading child porn of themselves on tumblr/neocities? or is it actually a boy? uhh(this is an imageboard)

No. 2537015

File: 1748246339357.jpg (84.02 KB, 720x419, based middlepot.jpg)

>>2536266(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 2537026

>>2537015
hope it was worth the ban you retard.(report and ignore)

No. 2537031

>>2536375
She's not wiping any traces of her website, she probably doesnt want to pay for a domain she wont be using kek

No. 2537032

>>2537015
Top 10 memes worth of being banned for.

No. 2537034

>>2537031
oh no… not the $15 per year. i guess when you're living in squalor in brazil like her that's like $150 in normal people money.

No. 2537039

>>2537015
>Blonde woman is hysterically crying tears of joy after winning 3 prestigious awards whilst her brunette friend is taking her 6 pet #boyfriends# flesh dildos and ATMs on a their monthly 5 minute walk outside.

No. 2537053

>>2537010
literally says shes 20 on the page… just another "im totally nonhuman and genderless" autistic woman, nothing special

No. 2537076

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>>2537031
She made a deletion/exclusion request to Internet Archive, so I think she really wants to remove everything she has build from the internet.
Pretty retarded, she had no enemies and her presence wasn't too personal (in a "we can doxx you" way), I wonder why she's doing this. At least some of her pages are saved on the other archiver from what I see, so not everything is gonna be lost.

No. 2537103

>>2537039
Is she meant to be Taylor swift or something?

No. 2537256

>>2537010
If you suspect someone is uploading CP, an imageboard is the last place to post about it…

No. 2537274

>>2537076
Could she be trying to hide something?

No. 2538258

which notable webrings or managed cliques (that don't explicitly say NO TERFS!!!! in their rules) will remove you for having gender-critical content on your site? I'm going to go public with my site soon, and I don't even want to spend the time of day applying to anything that will gleefully send me a nastygram denial/removal email

No. 2538350

>>2538258
If your site is text heavy, most webrings won't bother to look past your front page.

No. 2538373

>>2538258
What >>2538350 said, unless you have a "Fuck Trans People" written on size 41 on your index they won't read any more kek
Just make sure the ring isn't managed by a minor or NEET and you'll be fine most of the time. There's always the chance that the owner silently removes you to avoid a fuss because a random paserby or member noticed and sniched you for thought crimes, but it's pretty slim.

No. 2540414

Are there any cool website widgets out there? The only ones I can find are calendar ones.

No. 2540477

>>2540414
It really depends what you're going for I guess, but maybe some other nonnies will have some different ones? Anyway, here's a few from my bookmarks
- Chattable https://iframe.chat/
- Status https://status.cafe/
- IMood https://www.imood.com/
- Hit counter https://counter.fc2.com/en/

Here's some more silly ones too
https://gifypet.neocities.org/#getapet
https://webneko.net/
https://www.icalendar37.net/lunar/app/

No. 2540810

>the no ai webring
are the people that join these webrings and plaster NO AI badges all over their site actually crazy? crazy, maybe. pathetic, yes. every time i see this webring i want to laugh. its always some "artist" or "web developer" plastering this shit onto their page and it's always coming from a place of irrational fear rather than any good reason to hate AI as a whole. these people never have nuance either, its always ALL AI BAD with them. maybe the fear is rational actually, maybe deep down they know uncreative types like themselves are going to get culled as soon as AI progresses a little further. its going to take real human creativity to beat AI in making anything more than a decent website, which these people don't have, otherwise they wouldn't be crying about AI. how is it your JOB to be creative and your shit looks worse than a random personal site on neocities? lmao

No. 2540848

>>2540810
i think it's just another case of young people online succumbing to peer pressure and not questioning anything they read. they see a large amount of people going "thing bad" or "thing good" and immediately subscribe to it instead of looking into something and forming their own opinion.

No. 2540956

>>2540810
I think AI can be a good tool but considering that iy steals from artists to produce content without compensating them I understand why they are against it. Even tracing art requires more effort than using AI. If youre talking about nuance you could also use some.

No. 2541095

>>2540810
I don't think so. I just think it's people who don't like the ethics of generative AI getting together in a group. Why are you so pissed off over people expressing they don't like AI?

No. 2541114

>>2541095
AI quite literally has saved people's lives in certain domains like medicine. People who say "Fuck AI" without understanding the nuances and details are retarded. These webrings and badges are examples of that.

No. 2541128

>>2541114
sure, but these people in these webrings are writers and artists or even hobbyists whose works are being scraped so that "idea guys" can crap out more of their precious slop. it directly negatively impacts them. nobody's sitting around going "wow, FUCK that AI what solved the cancer, this webring will really stick it to the bastard"

No. 2541137

>>2541128
did you not read the original anon's post? those people deserve to be out of a job if they can't compete with ai. being against ai because it does a better job than you is so on brand for the highly emotional artist kek.

No. 2541147

>>2541137
did you not read my post? it's not about employment you dingbat, it's shitty to steal other people's work for whatever purpose, especially if the people you steal from are unaware and will never see any part of the profit if the work is used commercially. is theft a new concept for you?

No. 2541173

>>2541114
>>2541137
>>2540810
Congrats on being the most retarded nona in this thread, kek.

No. 2541229

>>2541147
it's not stealing the same way piracy is not stealing. just admit you're scared of ai because it can make something shitty in 3 seconds and it takes you to make something shitty in 4 hours.

No. 2541237

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No. 2541247

>>2541237
okay. you're free to disagree. not my fault you're as talentless as the stuff ai was trained on.

No. 2541303

>>2541114
Did i talk about that type of AI? I'm talking about specifically GENERATIVE AI, that is not the type of AI that's used in those spaces, actually, generative AI in some ways could not even be considered AI. Stop trying to make a dumb image generator seem as important as AI used in scientific spaces because those are never going to be in the same category. Defend AI all you want, it will never be ethical to steal other's copyrighted content to make money with your machine. Ffs think a little bit.

No. 2541312

>>2541229
Yes it's stealing because copyrighted content has been used for other's financial gain without compensating the original creators. Simple. Or do you think that piracy, something that mostly don't affect gigantic enterprises, is the same as stealing the art from a PERSON that lives through that art? Anyways you are retarded because real art keeps selling and AI art is gimmicky and boring. People like personality and expression, not a random image of a soulless adopt, or some bitch in a beautiful deformed background. You clearly know shit about art and probably are the talentless person YOURSELF as you have to defend a machine instead of being proud of your own talent. I'm sure you don't have idea of how to draw, use photoshop, blender or any artistic tool. Is that why you feel such a need to defend a machine that fills the holes on your skills.

No. 2541320

>>2541237
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that this retard has been trying to bait the whole week.
Anyone got actual milk?

No. 2541343

Is it possible to make a video game hosted on my website? Like something that's actually interactive like flash used to be? Not like with just plain css and html?

No. 2541348

>>2541343
Yeah look into HTML5+Javascript games engines
Renpy and RPGMaker have options for exporting games to host on websites for example

No. 2541387

>>2541348
Ntayrt but this is useful, thanks!

No. 2541437

>>2541229
Would you mind showing some examples of impressive AI art? I find anti-AI sperging annoying too, but I personally haven't really been wowed by any of the generative AI stuff I've seen. A lot of it is equally bad quality as a lot of unskilled "real" artists.

No. 2541445

>>2541343
Pretty sure you can install Ruffle on your website so you can host workabke Flash games as well

No. 2541449

File: 1748547775483.gif (123.47 KB, 112x112, dancing triangle.gif)

>>2541343
>>2541348
GB Studio also allows exporting to HTML. https://www.gbstudio.dev/docs/build/

No. 2541555

>>2541343
look at Phaser

No. 2541649

>>2541320
maybe the "doxxing harmless autistic women!!!!" anon actually has some crazy milk and people are trying to bury the discussion by pretending to be retarded… just my wishful thinking tinfoil

No. 2541678

looking for news sites sucks its so hard to find websites that arent navel-gazing pretentious gendies or sites with literally zero original assets… or both. my generation really cant do shit

No. 2541774

>>2541678
I wish there were more mature adults in this sphere, like 40+ and stuff. You think the people who grew up on AOL and Livejournal would come flocking to make old sites like they did decades ago.

No. 2541797

>>2541774
Instead they are all on TikTok for some reason kek

No. 2541980

File: 1748570427258.jpg (257.67 KB, 1440x1670, 479973fbe7113e98.jpg)

>>2541312
yes yes you're very talented. let me wipe your tears(Infighting)

No. 2542059

>>2541980
you must have a stinky pussy to defend AI so much(infight bait)

No. 2542083

>>2541980
girl scratch your minge and sniff your fingers, you've got bigger fish to fry

No. 2542176

>>2535262
This has to be bait. Shrines are typically the most interesting part of somebody's site. You lack a life if you have nothing to make a shrine on, except maybe your ability to wax poetic about how super speshul you are.

No. 2542197

>look at a webring
>that's cool i might join
>RULE 1: NO TRANSPHOBE BIGOTRY ON YOUR WEBSITE
every single time. i don't know why these people even care. neocities is a free speech site and no one, i mean literally no one will succeed in getting you taken down or banned for any hate speech. you can have a kkk nazi kill all niggers fansite and your site will stay up. so why do these retarded webring admins care about twansphobia lmao

No. 2542223

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>>2542197
This is 80% of the webrings i come across, especially for the pixel rings. god forgive me for wanting to make something cute to put on my page. It's to the point I've been planning on making my own similar art related webrings without retarded criterion because kowtowing to these people is always more hassle than it's worth over being around people you actually like. in that way it's a good thing that they self report.
It's also worth noting that when you try to distance yourself from these people by making your own spaces, they complain about not being let in. do you or do you not want us evil bigots to fuck off?

No. 2542242

File: 1748593338400.jpg (39.91 KB, 524x499, 6bi3at.jpg)

>>2542223
it's literally this meme
>go away bigot
>okay, i'll make my own space
>…
>NOT LIKE THAT

No. 2542330

>>2542197
It's been something that's pushed me to learn more about webrings so maybe I could make my own for my weird niche hobbies.
How do y'all like browsing webrings? Do y'all like looking at the member directory, or hitting that 'next' and 'prev' button?

Speaking of rings: how long has woti been closed to new applicants? I saw yesterday they aren't open at the moment.

No. 2542511

>>2542223
>>2542242
Just motivates me more to create a biggot webring

No. 2542514

>>2542330
I like browsing webring lists over hitting the previous/next buttons since alot of the times the buttons redirect to empty websites or to a website where the widget is hidden and it kinda ruins the flow for me

No. 2542530

>>2542511
Go back to where you came from tourist

No. 2542545

>>2542530
youre more than welcome to join the biggot webring

No. 2542615

>>2542545
Maybe learn to spell it correctly first, retard.(infighting)

No. 2542902

>>2541774
they're still around and they do hang out in such circles, but they're all aging moids, why would you want to be around them

No. 2542926

>>2542902
Why did you assume I was talking about the men? Livejournal was mostly women.

No. 2543128

>>2542926
i didn't, but the only 40+ mature adults that grew up on aol and lj that are still making old school websites and other internet stuff are men, sadly.
i've yet to run into any real women

No. 2544137

>>2542615
I liked the way they spelled it because it reminded me of faggot

No. 2544177

>>2541649
maybe it would be smarter to acually compile and prepare your milk rather than breadcrumbing hypothetical drama that will just alert the lurkers to DFE, just wistful thinking.
Youre just shooting yourself in the foot because of this pettiness, either post milk or gtfo

No. 2544391

that sansfag girl was so milky i kinda wish the drama with her hadnt died down kek

No. 2544700

>>2544391
it was funny watching the gendies rage at her over the TIM essay i cant lie.

No. 2544788

>>2544700
The essay was based and I hope it peaked people. I don't find her interesting otherwise, I don't care for "cozy" aesthetics or weeb content.

No. 2544792

>>2544700
it's funny that people tried to be reasonable and just made a fool of themselves instead. even more funny that some of them were moids even though she made it very clear that she doesn't want them around.

No. 2545621

>>2544700
>>2544788
>>2544792
second that lmao, but i more meant that she's my personal lolcow. i don't get how any of you take her seriously with her pseudo intellectualism and retarded sansfaggotry, even if she is a fellow TERF kek. i follow her mainly to milk her breakdowns

No. 2545882

>>2545621
Where did I say I take her seriously? I'm glad she openly posted GC content, but her site is just boring tl;dr for me.

No. 2545937

>>2545882
Yes nonnie, blogs tend to be like that if you're not interested in the person. Are you lost?

No. 2546063

>>2545937
not everyone is as obsessively fascinated with this woman as you are.

No. 2546372

>>2546063
I don't know how you got this from my post, but you sound like you're complaining about water being wet. If someone is boring to you as a person their blog will be boring tl;dr to you. It's a blog. Blogs have lots of words in them.
If you find her milky, then clearly she's not boring enough?

No. 2546498

>>2546372
NAYRT she never said she found flonne milky. are you confused or something?

No. 2546595

is there a way to keep gendies out from interacting with my site or guestbook without having to go to extremes? (like puting an anti-ltgb or pro-russia stamps lol)

No. 2546632

>>2546595
Lol that won't make them stay out that will make them sperg in your guestbook even more

No. 2546634

>>2546595
No it's virtually impossible

No. 2546708

>>2546595
I just ignore them and they take the hint.

No. 2546888

>>2546595
no offense, but anti-lgbt and pro-russia will scare off cryptos just as much as gendies because a lot of us are bisexual/lesbian and pro-LGB without the T. gendies only care about things that validate them, so if you have no mention of pronouns or gender they get bored and move to the next site of their kin. some guestbooks also let you approve messages before they're published, so you can also ignore them if they lecture you or try to promo themselves.

No. 2547474

>>2546888
no offense to you but i'm not looking to follow anybody with LGB anything splattered across their website. T included or not.

No. 2547486

>>2547474
Lol, then maybe just hang out in your own bubble where you don't have to interact with anyone. Just remove guestbooks or any way of interacting with you.

No. 2547490

>>2547486
here come the waterworks. there's plenty of normal people out there that don't have I'M A FAGGOT plastered all over their site. calm down.

No. 2547493

>>2547490
No reason to get offended, snowflake. There's plenty of people who have websites without ways of interacting with them. If you don't want people to interact with your site, then don't let them. That's kinda the beauty of this whole thing. You can't control who interacts with you and who doesn't unless you don't get them any tools to begin with.

No. 2547496

>>2547493
you're the one that got offended lol but your mildly humurous attempt at trying to deflect your own dejection onto me is not working. i'd consider somebody a snowflake who makes being gay their entire personality. pardon me for literally having nothing in common with your types, all you're able to do is gush about your proverbial lifestyle like it’s some kind of spectacle. online gays are the most boring people alive, especially in the personal site sphere. i bet i interact with gays all the time in this sphere without knowing it because they're normal, and again, don't scream I AM A FAGGOT every 2 seconds.(infighting)

No. 2547576

>>2546595
>from interacting with my site
Unsure what do you men by thia as it's impossible to know who visits your site unless your have interactive parts on your website like comments, in that case the only advice I can give you is to either manually block their IPs or close off said intractable parts. You could simply add a big "NO ZZY" disclaimer to your website, though I suppose that will attract even more angry people.

>or guestbook

Literally just have words on your website ans gendies won't explore it much, most of them are here just for the y2k aesthetic trend and don't read anything.
I haven't had a single troon write me ever since I put my mail and guestbook links inside the introductory/welcome paragraph of my website instead of in the navibar.

No. 2547593

>>2064688
I'm curious, what is the site that purinland was copied from?

No. 2547623

>>2547474
Then just put the damn anti-lgbt stamp on your site kek

No. 2547625

>>2546595
find a guestbook that allows you to vet comments before you put them on, and if any are from gendies, don't put them. simple as

No. 2547663

>>2547474
ayrt, okay? that's your perogative, why even sperg out and bait like this?

No. 2547685

This thread has been reeking of gayops recently.

No. 2547717

>>2547685
Probably a cow who's butthurt and are trying to stir the conversation

No. 2547750

Why would you even care if gendies look at or comment on your site, they are inescapable. Just because they comment on your guestbook does not warrant this big of a spergout, you're not obligated to be their friend or anything. If it bothers you that bad just don't have a guestbook.

No. 2547812

>>2547750
Seriously. How is this any different than the meltdowns they have over "terfs?"

No. 2547897

>>2547750
>just don't have a guestbook
…Or maybe just stick to real life friends and relationships - radical idea, I know

No. 2547911

>>2546595
Find ones that let you filter words so anything like "TERF" or "trans rights" can be changed to "I suck dicks actually". Cbox lets you iirc
>>2547897
Bit too radical for this thread

No. 2547919

>>2547897
You're giving that advice on the wrong site…

No. 2548076

>>2547897
this is rich coming from lolcow

No. 2548122

>>2547685
It's probably summerfags and NEETs.

No. 2548280

>>2547897
You know guestbooks are for comments on your site, right? It's not for making friends. This diss fell flat lmao

No. 2548297

>>2547812
Exactly what that felt like kek. And likely a child unable to read tone in text (and awful spelling of "humorous") since there was literally no indication that nonny was offended. "calm down" made me laugh a lot

No. 2551118

File: 1749208148361.png (8.12 MB, 3000x3883, weregonnabeok.png)

I started a neocities in 2020 and pretty much abandoned it by 2022. occasionally I go back and check the chatbox I have on the site and it really warms my heart to see that people still stumble upon it and read my stuff and leave messages

No. 2551193

>>2551118
Go back to it!

No. 2552232

i hate it when people make their site look as ugly as possible. it's not cool or unironic it's just low effort circlejerking with other people that don't want to put in effort. how hard is it to come up with a cohesive design that isn't eye bleedingly "ironic"

No. 2552264

>>2552232
disagree because it's really easy to avoid sites like that. I usually click off in a split second and I can't imagine staying long enough to get tweaked out like you do.

No. 2552406

>>2552264
i didn't "tweak out"? i just posted my opinion. what crawled up your ass and died?

No. 2552445

>>2552232
Give us the links to those "ugly sites" or gtfo

No. 2552446

>>2547897
….Where's the correlation?
We are talking about online spaces here. I go out with my friends and coworkers unfortunately in the later's case and I still dislike when a dickhead pops up on my guestbook or twitter replies. Do you think nonas ITT only socialize via their personal websistes? kek

No. 2552681

>>2552446
it was probably a random summerfag trying to diss but failed because guestbooks are for visitors to leave notes or comments on a site, not an avenue to chat or make friends kek. most sites i follow go inactive because the webmasters have real lives

No. 2552696

>>2552232
>>2547897
What's all this summerfaggery for? Go back to xitter

No. 2552857

File: 1749320067531.png (27.92 KB, 781x261, wtf.png)

do these losers really just sit on the updated page list all day so they can moralfag over "muh stolen code"? the person theyre bitching at was a 16 year old who deleted their page, good job bullying new people off neocities guys!

No. 2552867

>>2552857
Is the bullying in the room with us? If someone c/p the entire code I think thats a valid reaction to have kek

No. 2552868

>>2552867
Who cares it's fucking HTML and CSS there's literally only so many ways you can put divs together

No. 2552870

File: 1749320854512.webp (109.02 KB, 540x405, index.html.540x405.webp)

>>2552867
idk it looks like to me like this person was just editing it in neocities editor and was going to adjust it more? it even had a custom header on it. this just seems especially dumb to me because its just the same 90s windows design literally everyone on neocities uses. lilithtranny doesnt own the windows aesthetic lmao

No. 2552873

>>2552870
Not even that it's just assets ripped from a game kek. That isn't even theirs to begin with

No. 2552875

>>2552857
that person ancientcrypt is fucking everywhere. they follow some mutuals and they even followed me until i was very loudly posting anti-tranny stuff on my newsfeed. does this ancientcrypt person have a life at all? i see them all the time commenting on profiles. what kind of irreperable loser do you have to be to sit around and bully children off neocities. they should spend more time getting their ugly, dime a dozen website with barely working code in a better shape rather than worrying if some teenager copied a freakish tranny's equally ugly code.

No. 2552892

>>2552875
no seriously its so pathetic, i cant stand these sort of people who treat neocities like a drama social media. go the fuck back to twitter please. i wouldnt of even posted this if it wasnt for the cunty passive aggressive way they did it with the smiley face and shit, so immature.

No. 2552895

>>2552892
"isnt very independent web of you" is so smug and condescending too

No. 2552938

>>2552870
i just checked again and this person completely deleted their account. this makes me kinda sad honestly

No. 2553265

>>2552870
the person even credited the original coder. Shitty of these people to hound them like this when they cry over being made fun of especially with this catty “teehee you’re a piece of shit” with passive aggressive emoticons

No. 2553273

>>2552938
Wow poor girl. She's probably a beginner and was trying to do her own thing in her own pace. Why the need to bully? I see so many people copy other's codes and even assets to a T and still there's no need to bully them because they are either a kid or someone putting effort to someday be unique.

No. 2553289

>>2553273
This lol. No doubt 80% of all assets on neocities are stolen from an Japanese sozai artists without a care in the world or the thought of giving them credit. Why throw a fit about it now?

No. 2553298

>>2553289
Because it's pride month and she stole from a tranny duh

No. 2553300

>>2553289
Pretty much. They use all those images that don't even belong to them, but they think that because they organized the images in a different way they are more special than a beginner that inspires themselves in people from neocities.

I wonder if Philia995 credited the photographer for the bjd doll header they have? Also, as long as the creator is japanese or the site is old they can have their assets freely used, cool way to think. Just let people be unoriginal, it's not like they are doing that with bad intentions, they just don't know how to do things another way.

No. 2553324

>>2553300
shes such a hypocrite its insanee lmao, i already thought she was annoying with the message chastising you if you right click on her website as if youre going to steal her basic 3-column div container but this shit made me block her. notice how she has no credit page on her entire website either but still felt the need to bully this teenage girl who even credited the original coder?

No. 2553434

>>2553324
Yeah, she thinks her site is the peak of uniqueness, that's why she feels the need to try humiliating others, as if she were part of the little group of incredible sites with extremelly speshul codes and assets.

She has literally the same assets as everyone. What is she so proud about? A desaturation filter on her site to try making it concise because the assets are probably all from random websites? If she's such a creativity fan, why isn't she at least making her own assets or assets for other people to use? Make it make sense. Someone should go into her profile and ask why she is not crediting the artists of her assets, because i'm sure NOTHING there is truly made by her.

No. 2553646

>>2552938
this type of injustice really makes my blood boil. all for a disgusting tranny's asset flip code? really? i wish i could tell the girl that deleted her account that there was no need for all that.

No. 2554038

>>2552938
She's on Nekoweb still. https://romeswinter.nekoweb.org
Lilithdev stole the assets from a game and thinks he is any better kek

No. 2554194

File: 1749402949730.jpeg (198.19 KB, 607x289, lilithdev.jpeg)

>>2554038
he wasn't even the one who had a problem with the code being taken. the site says copying is encouraged. it was philia who took issue with this for some reason.

No. 2554219

what are some tips on keeping clean, legible code? using the root pseudoclass and making comments are all i know

No. 2554238

>>2554219
there is no reason to do any of this unless you want to make things easier for the person copying your code rofl

No. 2554241

>>2554238
i unironically do want this. i want my site to be very easily steal-able. copyheartfag and proud

No. 2554242

>>2554194
Because she’s a twitter wokescold who gets a rush of power to her minge when she manages to browbeat someone into submission. That’s why people like her go after teens and women, they’re more likely to cave in and feel ashamed.

No. 2554254

>>2554241
i'm a copyheartfag too but i guess i just don't see the point in making things easier for the person copying. a challenge should be present as compensation for copying

No. 2554287

File: 1749406965616.png (390.65 KB, 548x706, philiatheft.png)

"rules for thee but not for me" shit going on here

No. 2554439

>>2554287
Wow lmfao. Does the source look obviously stolen?

No. 2554464

>>2554219
Honestly I just use the Beautifly extension for brackets so the classes tree are separated evenly and nice. And I abuse intro spaces a lot to separate sections within a page kek

>>2554238
People do that all the time even if the code is a mess anyways and ain't a crime, the way you position containers isnt the Mona Lisa. Also a clean code is way more easy to work on, I had to fully re-do some of my old pages because they were so annoying to read I felt unmotivated to do anything on then. Praying for your site's dustbunny code.

No. 2554465

>>2554439
I shouldve not put "theft" in the title because its clearly not stolen just VERY heavily inspired, yet not credited for inspiration anywhere on her site, strange how she doesnt need to credit but other people do?

No. 2554480

>>2554287
Kek this chick seriously copied some obscure site in a whole other language and thought no one would ever find out. Then has a field day giving out to randos on Neocities to feel all high and mighty. I hate this retard, who does she even think she is?

No. 2554524

>>2554465
it is based on what was a very popular Korean social media. Regardless, it’s still not original and this person getting on a high horse is hilarious when their layout nearly exactly the same as Cyworld.

No. 2554526

>>2554465
It looks inspired by appledust too. At least in concept

No. 2554630

>>2554219
look up BEM for CSS. it's basically a system for writing clean and legible classnames.

>>2552895
this whole thing is so funny to because like… copying and sharing code is kinda fundamental to web development. obviously there are licenses and legalities you have to respect but, i would argue "independent web" is very much based around an open source model. if it weren't for people sharing their code, the internet as we know it would not have gotten this far. it's such a fucking weird thing to get mad about.

No. 2554637

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>>2554219
some of these you might already do. i don't even do all of these things. i'm just listing everything I can think of
>nest rules within each other. picrel
>order your declarations alphabetically and/or by type. like height, width, padding, position, and margins go together; all background or font properties go in their respective groups; etc
>use shorthand properties (e.g. borders, margins, animations)
>use variables as often as possible, like for colors, measurements, and really long values
>use the calc() function, especially in conjunction with variables. do not do math on your own when css will do it for you!
>use semantic html (header, main, section, footer, etc) and use it properly
>with url(), use relative paths, not absolute ones
>learn when to use combinators, pseudo-classes, pseudo-elements, ids, and classes. keep a healthy balance of all of them
>use commonsense id and class names. when i give something a cute/funny name, i use it across multiple pages so it at least becomes commonsense to me
>comment next to complicated/unfamiliar code to explain what it's for
>if you write css based on someone else's javascript plugin, or copy something off stackexchange, comment the url so you can find it later
>divide the document into sections. use comments to make headings and subheadings, and line dividers with dashes or asterisks
>order the sections from top to bottom with :root and header at the top, footer at the bottom
>any layout that goes side to side, write the leftmost part first and rightmost last
>use the same format for all colors
>keep indents/spacing consistent, like space or no space after a colon
>decide early if you prefer single or double quotes
>do the same things on every single stylesheet
>have one or more master stylesheets to avoid repeating yourself
>add ascii art for the laughs
,_ _
|\\_,-~/
/ _ _ | ,–.
( @ @ ) / ,-'
\ _T_/-._( (
/ `. \
| _ \ |
\ \ , / |
|| |-_\__ /
((_/`(____,-'

No. 2555491

>>2554637
>add ascii art for the laughs
NTA but kek I do that as well. I even have a mini choose your adventure game inside my code for the curious people who look up it. At my home page's code, I have something like "Do you want to give the mouse a cooike?" Yes: Go to [URL1] / No: Go to [URL2]. Then in the code of said urls, it continues similarity and so on; I wonder if anyone has found about it yet.

That aside, very informative post, thanks you! Specially the
>if you write css based on someone else's javascript plugin, or copy something off stackexchange, comment the url so you can find it later
Not only is good maners to credit other's people scripts, but future you will thanks you for linking the source. It has saved me a thousand of times.



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