[ Rules ] [ Lite ] [ ot / g / m ] [ pt / snow / w ] [ meta ] [ Server Status ]

/ot/ - off-topic

Name
Email
Subject
Comment
File(20 MB max)
Video
Password (For post deletion)

ForumsCatalog...
Development has finally finished on our own original board software. Welcome to lolcow 2.0! Revert update

No. 2443295

Hide saged posts for this thread

1208 posts in this topic
sageSans Pareil
This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.

Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping
> Ao3 Censorship and TOS
> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers
> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads
> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama
> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters
> Debates over death of the author
> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creators

Related threads:

Fujo vs. anti-fujo discourse:
>>1978406

Fujocoomer cringe:
>>1959358

Previous:
>>2425069

File (hide): 1741900171966.jpg (405.64 KB, 1638x2048, thequeenthelegend.jpg)

WhiteGlovianMerveilleux
No. 2443299>>2443663

File (hide): 1741900332788.jpg (8.61 KB, 300x300, 1000033707.jpg)

>>2442979
FANNY KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR MAN

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2443306>>2443323

>>2442979
>lesbian cartman
is this what the world has come to

landmine-himeLumineux
No. 2443310

>>2442979 genuinely what is wrong with these people? do they think nobody will ever love them irl? (they're right..) at least they take themselves out of the gene pool. may future generations be stronger for lack of these freaks bearing children…

all whores will dieMerveilleux
No. 2443320

>>2442979
lesbian really just means anything after stepping out of the microlabel arena now

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2443323

>>2443306
Aktually hes a Jewish trans woman who's lesbian so you cant cancel him libtard so checkmate this would be in a south park episode just to mock him kekkk

trad4himLumineux
No. 2443329>>2443338>>2443341>>2443343>>2443348>>2443353>>2443361>>2444265

File (hide): 1741901957785.jpg (162.87 KB, 1080x1080, toxic-hobbit-yaoi-v0-nrypvdnvd…)

I have 0 bad feelings towards yumejoshi, but these parodies? of the concept take me out

ashley jankowskiDébutant
No. 2443338

>>2443329
>"Libido level"
>It's high
Horrifying.

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2443341>>2443350

>>2443329
I need the template, please

manmoder shoulderhonLumineux
No. 2443343

>>2443329
holy shit not even the original bakshi hobbit but the one from the shittiest smiling friends episode? whats wrong with these people

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2443348>>2443359>>2443361

>>2443329
i don't think it's a parody nona. i saw this artist posted in the bad art thread before and she's just… like that

novemberSans Pareil
No. 2443350>>2443406

File (hide): 1741902531386.jpg (244.42 KB, 1638x2048, GjXisDsW8AAdMN2.jpg)

>>2443341
If you want it in better quality:
https://x.com/ulquiorraspouse/status/1888664867923763314
A lot of people using it quoted this tweet

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2443353

>>2443329
>yume'ing this ugly shit
may as well date a 3dpd moid

Astarion_is_walledSans Pareil
No. 2443359

>>2443348
There is way too much effort put into this for it to be a parody.

elfearsSans Pareil
No. 2443361>>2443366>>2443370>>2443377>>2443400

>>2443295
>>2442979
>>2443329
>>2443348
I know this shit isn’t a parody but does it feel ingenuine to anyone else or is it just me? All these modern yumes feel ironypoisoned to some degree. I’m not really feeling the true ‘tism spirit here it almost seems like they revel in how lol quirky it appears from the outside

manmoder shoulderhonSans Pareil
No. 2443366>>2443400

>>2443361
seems like being a selfshipper is now seen as some kind of edgy counterculture instead of just a regular part of fandom, so now you have all the south park zoomers shipping themselves with lesbian enby polyamourous cartman or some shit.

crabbyMerveilleux
No. 2443370

>>2443361
yeah the pronouns + yumeing for literal joke characters is very obviously irony poisoned

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2443374>>2443386>>2443495>>2443687>>2443863

File (hide): 1741903378761.webp (417.86 KB, 1836x2480, Agent_Von_Lycaon_Portrait.png)

Late, but Lycaon is the zzz furry designed to appeal to women, he has a dutiful butler personality, a deep voice and has some shippy dialogue with the female mc.

trollcowDébutant
No. 2443377>>2443709

>>2443361
I find that there is a yume community of sorts to be weird in itself because why would you care about other's husbandos who aren't related to your husbando's source material when you could be doing something directly related to him?

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2443386>>2443398

>>2443374
>suitfaggot so it doesnt hurt moids feefees
ofcourse

SoapPropagandistMerveilleux
No. 2443398>>2443438>>2443443

>>2443386
how would a wolf man hurt moid feefees lol

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2443400

>>2443361
>>2443366
I think a lot of yumes are irony poisoned but the girl in the OP is genuine, just extremely autistic. She is a fakebian with a tranny ebf though, identifying as a lesbian has been trendy for the last 2-3 years because of the comphet shit/Chappell Roan/bisexuality not being novel anymore.

NullDébutant
No. 2443406>>2443423

>>2443350
So what's the difference between avator, sona, and persona?

Mutiliated MenSans Pareil
No. 2443423

>>2443406
sona and persona are same things imo, but i think the diff is usually someone has one avatar that they use to represent themselves, vs having a bunch of persona's (in my mind theyre glorified OC's) that fit specific scenarios

NullLumineux
No. 2443438>>2443448>>2443451>>2443456>>2443511

File (hide): 1741907420247.jpg (901.3 KB, 1920x1920, GjJ0Lu_bsAAkuMj.jpg)

>>2443398
Moids go into melty mode whenever they see a guy in revealing clothing. I'll make a compilation of moid seethe but if you wanna look at the replies yourself
https://x.com/Love_Deepspace/status/1887701030059786593>>2443406

Depressed_In_BucharestDébutant
No. 2443443>>2443455

>>2443398
if he was as sexualized as the female characters moids would start sending protesting trucks to mihoyo

Regards.Sans Pareil
No. 2443448

>>2443438
Why do they even fucking care? I'm definitely not the target audience for lads but the inane spergery and rage it inspires kind of makes me secondhand fan.

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2443451

>>2443438
This is especially funny when you consider that those same moids have said for years that unlike "stupid women" they aren't bothered by sexy male characters and it gives them motivation to work out. Turns out that was a load of BS lmao.

SoapPropagandistMerveilleux
No. 2443455>>2443462

>>2443443
This isn't a mihoyo game though…

manmoder shoulderhonLumineux
No. 2443456>>2443458>>2443471

File (hide): 1741908663829.jpg (251.85 KB, 977x1392, 1740964509252.jpg)

>>2443438
she's such a tryhard pickme

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2443458>>2443465

>>2443456
Who is that
Also of all things in LADS why crash out over a period tracker?

NullSans Pareil
No. 2443462>>2443464

>>2443455
Yes it is, ZZZ is made by Mihoyo.

trad4himMerveilleux
No. 2443464

>>2443462
Oops, I was talking about Love and deepspace

Kirby_is_GNCMerveilleux
No. 2443465>>2443678

>>2443458
pickme who posts unfunny anime memes
I got so pissed at this, a normal thing every woman goes thought is the grossest thing ever but dating middleschoolers in gachaslop is fine according to her

straight-with-extra-stepsLumineux
No. 2443471

>>2443456
I'm legitimately angry at this. Imagine hating yourself and your fellow women so much that you wholeheartedly agree with period shaming and become upset at the mere thought of other women being catered to in the slightest way.
And I don't even play this game, I came from the front page.

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2443476>>2443482>>2443484>>2443485>>2443664

>>2443295
God, I hate how futashit has destroyed the f/f and GL fandom, Every time I use AO3 I have to add like 50 tags to my blocklist because there'll be an untagged dickgirl in it. Why the fuck is noone capable of writing good femslash smut without giving one of them a dick?

crabbyLumineux
No. 2443482

>>2443476
samefag and the issue is compounded by the fact that authors who write strap-on stories often tag their stories as if the character has a dick on AO3. Like, I get that AO3 is meant for straight women for the most part, so it can be difficult to tag things properly, but come the fuck on.

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2443484

>>2443476
troons have infected yuri fandom. the cuntboy stuff is bad in yaoi fics but not nearly as bad as what happened with wlw

Kirby_is_GNCLumineux
No. 2443485

>>2443476
It seems like everything is mutating into a grotesque sexual mush. It sucks.
I wonder if it'll get worse, like years from now it won't be enough to have just one set of genitals but to represent all sort with hyper inflated breast's and stomachs.

NullDébutant
No. 2443489>>2443500>>2443502>>2443547>>2443573>>2443769>>2443805

>>2442503
>>2442766
>>2442979
why do they all id as lesbian?

weenusLumineux
No. 2443495>>2444086

>>2443374
im so mad his sexy ass english voice actor has been gone for so long (I guess he's busy with other roles) so all his appearances in the events and story recently are unvoiced and its so immersion breaking. dropped the game so it doesnt really matter now

crabbyMerveilleux
No. 2443500

>>2443489
The word lesbian has been completely bastardized in the last almost-decade now

Depressed_In_BucharestMerveilleux
No. 2443502>>2443505>>2443530>>2443769

File (hide): 1741911355941.png (1.44 MB, 4794x3500, goki_reference.png)

>>2443489
I don't know. I suspect it's a way of swearing loyalty to their husbando by claiming no attraction to irl men.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2443505>>2443517>>2443545

>>2443502
i love flonne's site but i wish she would just say shes febfem instead. half of the characters she has romantic feelings for are male kek. like what is so wrong with being bisexual? it gives the feeling of somebody desperately wanting to feel special and like bisexual isnt special enough

NullMerveilleux
No. 2443511>>2443515>>2443516>>2443527>>2443702>>2443703>>2443855>>2444183>>2444476>>2444782>>2445197

File (hide): 1741911853562.png (2.54 MB, 2244x1382, lolxdkekbg.png)

>>2443438
A bit late, sorry. Here's the meltdown compilation.

SoapPropagandistLumineux
No. 2443515>>2443702

>>2443511
Its so obvious how jealous they are KEK men are so threated by and scared of women's sexuality

kys bishitsDébutant
No. 2443516

>>2443511
This is actually so funny holy shit

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2443517

>>2443505
Being straight/bisexual isn't feminist enough (even though she openly has a ddlg kink).

Astarion_is_walledLumineux
No. 2443527>>2443702>>2448817

>>2443511
>women raping men
omg based i am downloading LADS now

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2443530>>2443549

>>2443502
didnt this girl actually confess to having a mdlg type relationship with a woman? i remember her post about the digimon dog thing

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2443545

>>2443505
>half
Way more than half kek.

ex-farmhandSans Pareil
No. 2443547>>2443551

>>2443489
like another anon said, obvious bisexuals that want to attention whore use the lesbian label now since everyone and their mommas are bisexual now.

elfearsDébutant
No. 2443549>>2443555>>2443559

File (hide): 1741913315019.png (177.23 KB, 1740x947, 1697043030005.png)

>>2443530
That's her. She's an ex-TiF with psychosis so I wouldn't take her word at face value. Sansfagging aside at least she seems to be doing better now.

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2443551

>>2443547
I doubt some of them are even bi tbh

WhiteGlovianLumineux
No. 2443555

>>2443549
…You couldnt torture this information out of me, holy shit

weegeewifeLumineux
No. 2443559>>2443569

>>2443549
kinda feel a bit bad for her. ngl

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2443569

File (hide): 1741914366843.png (366.05 KB, 838x537, 82930047832905.PNG)

>>2443559
Yeah…

Anonymous GeneDébutant
No. 2443573

>>2443489
Being straight isn't cool when you are terminally online.

CerbminOwner
No. 2443657>>2443713>>2443756>>2443817>>2443939

File (hide): 1741922544894.png (746.7 KB, 1080x1304, 1739075473575.png)

>>2442717
Nona, I want to let you know that some of us aren't too retarded to see your point and support your opinion. Just because we don't always reply saying it doesn't mean nobody agrees with you. And obviously you're not the only one saying this, but some anons really think only one person can have the same opinion
Anyway, you're absolutely right. Many yumes like to make their self-inserts as pretty or sexy as possible because they're just like any other woman, socially conditioned to care about their appearance more than they should and value themselves based on that. They have fucked up standards like the average person who thinks women are pretty and men are plain/ugly, and that this is just "how things are". This is especially blatant when the husbando looks plain or unattractive in comparison. Yumes making their self-insert considerably cuter/sexier than the husbando may be harmless in itself, but it's ultimately a consequence of this social programming. It's subconscious, as is some yumes making their self-inserts appear small and young. But not all yumes are like that, some portray themselves normally or not conventionally feminine, and others aim for pretty husbandos that look about as good as their self-inserts (or vice versa, they aim for ugly husbandos that they feel they "deserve", which like the other extreme of ways to deal with beauty standards).

Also I don't see what's wrong with making your self-insert realistically kinda ugly, but not like ugly bastard levels of ugly, since at that point I think it'd be obvious that you hate yourself and self-deprecate a lot. It's showing that the yume accepts herself as she is, and doesn't think she's any less worth loving by a fictional character just because she doesn't conform to society's ideals of feminine beauty. Moids in real life are expected to be loved by women regardless of their appearance, because what counts is their "personality", after all. That's why moids are allowed to be ugly in peace, and even devoted waifufags don't think about it as much as I've seen yumejos worry about it. Women should also be allowed to be plain or ugly. Picrel is obviously a joke, but if we dig into the actual reason for this phenomenon, we can see it's because of this real-life situation where girls learn to dedicate their whole life to being beautiful, while moids aren't taught to do the same and everyone is told to ignore a male's looks because "that doesn't matter". Therefore, a girl's fantasy will more often involve her being pretty and physically attractive, while a moid's fantasy will more often involve getting lots of sex without having to do anything to be attractive in looks or personality. Males don't feel like they need to do that, unlike women. No straight moid is fantasizing about looking like a K-poop prettyboy, and no straight moid is reading shoujo manga and BL games, wishing he was just like the boys in those works, and being a pickme online to get female attention (unless he does it for the money, like Vtumors), but we see tons of female pickmes doing it with lolicon games and shounenslop like My Dressup Darling to get male attention every week and for no reason.

And I'm talking about yumes who are self-inserting, not about yume media where there is a self-insert for the viewer/player/reader/listener. But in the latter case, it'd make more sense to have a plain-looking self-insert, since the point of that kind of media should be the male characters being appealing, not the protagonist herself.

Ashton_WintersDébutant
No. 2443662>>2443976>>2444774>>2444783

File (hide): 1741923403087.jpg (137.05 KB, 718x565, sephiroth's mormon.jpg)

>>2442553
This has always been a thing, in the past people were just more intense about it with them starting internet slapfights over it, nowadays people just block each other and move on.

weenusDébutant
No. 2443663

>>2443299
fucking kek

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2443664

>>2443476
Yuris been futaland since the late 2000s, yaoi is only now catching up with all the cuntboy ABO.

trollcowLumineux
No. 2443665

File (hide): 1741923923144.png (604.27 KB, 592x813, fandom.png)


fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2443678>>2443683>>2443697

>>2443465
Are we sure its a cis woman and not a man pretending to be a woman? I remember seeing men pretending to be tradthots on twitter.

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2443683


rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2443687>>2444085>>2444110

>>2440588
>>2443374
Compare these to each other, they're not the same level of sexualization OR anthropomorphization at all, she even wears a mask that covers the snout so the moids who aren't full-blown furfags can coom to her kek

ex-farmhandMerveilleux
No. 2443697

>>2443678
>cis woman
Actually you make a good point, I thought she was a Vtuber pickme but turns out I was thinking of someone else who also shits on the game for her incel audience

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2443700

File (hide): 1741926745429.png (719.89 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (1471).png)

>>2442378
>Ayrt says she's so fearful of him, but she makes no effort to avoid him or avoid being alone in a room with him.
i want to clarify that i found mouthwashing to be merely "okay", i've consumed far better media, i thought it was really cheap to make the sole female character's biggest tragedy be pregnancy rape, but it's a point of her character that she's forgiving to a fault. it's a brief mention but it's there and i'd also argue women forgiving their rapists or trying to look past it is sadly not that unrealistic

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2443702>>2444780

>>2443511
Moid 1
>WOMEN LOVE BEING RAPED, GUYS
Moid 2
>WOMEN LOVE RAPING, GUYS
They can't even agree on how to lie, hilarious. And let's not forget that that specific even was met with tons of backlash from both the East and West because everybody was expecting a cute and sweet Valentine's event.
>>2443515
>Its so obvious how jealous they are
This is exactly it. Some of the scrotes in the screenshot even admitted to being jealous.
>>2443527
You're going to be very disappointed kek

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2443703>>2443704>>2444183

>>2443511
>I wish we could have this but with anime girls
they're greedy as fuck and that's the worst part to me

Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2443704

>>2443703
They already have dozens of games like that kek that moid is just a total newfag

fujo-to-tif-piplineDébutant
No. 2443709

>>2443377
People want to connect with people who have a similar autism level and want to show off their weeb cred + in their own fandom they are ostracized by shippers.
It's just friend/community seeking behaviour, though usually it devolves into catty drama.

keksSans Pareil
No. 2443713>>2443718

>>2443657
Anon, the average woman is just prettier than 10 average scrotes

elfearsDébutant
No. 2443718>>2443734

>>2443713
Why do they need to make their self-inserts even prettier then

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2443734>>2443736>>2443764

>>2443718
NTA but vast majority of both women and men like playing as hot, cute and sexy characters. No one wants to play as fat and ugly slobs. That's why Concord failed.

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2443736>>2443931

>>2443734
Why are male game protagonists so ugly then kek

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2443747>>2444343

File (hide): 1741933985268.png (222.03 KB, 489x423, outlawsoflove.png)

>op pic

Gross. Stan belongs to Steve.

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2443756>>2443762>>2443764>>2443786>>2444343>>2444631

File (hide): 1741935437831.jpg (318.05 KB, 900x1196, uglymaleprotagonists.jpg)

>>2443657
You might get booed and heckled for this, but I agree completely. There are tens of thousands of male wish-fulfillment manga that basically have the same premise:
>outgoing gyaru who falls for the generic, black-haired, dot-eyed plain guy because he was nice to her
>transfer Russian student who falls for the unremarkable, plain guy because he was nice to her
>elf who falls for the unremarkable human guy because he was nice to her
>tanned girl who falls for the unremarkable, plain guy because he was nice to her
>tomboy who falls for the unremarkable, plain guy because he was nice to her
>reverse trap who falls for the unremarkable, plain guy because he was nice to her
>class prez who falls for the unremarkable, plain guy because he was nice to her
Maybe I need to read more manga kek, but I do not really see this kind of escapist fantasy for women, where the plain, unremarkable girl ends up with a guy who is way out of her league. Also, the male self-insert is always the black-haired, dot-eyed guy so the average Japanese man can easily see himself in him. But this is not very common in manga targeted towards women. The only exceptions I can think of right now are Mitsumi from Skip to Loafer and the FMC from Busu ni Hanataba wo.

SoapPropagandistDébutant
No. 2443762>>2443766>>2443771>>2444745>>2448837

File (hide): 1741936299938.jpg (174.37 KB, 1250x875, Glgj-SVakAA0oDV.jpg)

>>2443756
I think most women just see themselves as pretty/or cute or relate to that more than being plain.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWDébutant
No. 2443764

>>2443756
nta but how I see it is that generally people have far less tolerance and more hostility towards plain or unattractive women and see pretty women as more valuable; >>2443734 ignores the super stardom of Mario, Sonic (well he does have his weird fans into him, sure, but they're the minority), among many other silly and iconic main male characters that aren't just Mr. Wonderbread that easily are far more beloved than almost all of your picrel. this is whitewashed because otherwise the fact even women tend to, like men, tolerate far, far less diversity and difference in womens' design in media would become too blatant. speaking as someone whose fave character was Fiona when I was a kid kek. I really didn't realize that she was actually supposed to be the odd female lead out because I found her so cute and interesting to look at as an ogre.

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2443766

>>2443762
>I'll stalk your pass record
Creepy bitch…

rottenbeardSans Pareil
No. 2443769>>2444721

>>2443502
>>2443489
i'll be honest with you all the fictional men these self-professed lesbians pair themselves with with are so far removed from real-life men that they're not even comparable. it'd be different if these were real-life male celebrities but they're literally just lines on a screen

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2443771>>2443772>>2443782>>2444748>>2444752>>2444757

>>2443762
maybe petty but im so bored of these generic bishie gacha anime boy yumes. gacha characters arent made for the love of telling stories, theyre made to appeal to people and get lots of money, when you husbando these type of characters and blow a bunch of money on rolls and merch youre literally getting played like a fiddle. its lame.

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2443772>>2443773>>2443774>>2443782

>>2443771
What a weird take, that guy is from Enstars and has 10x more story content than the average boy from a game and high quality 3D music videos and outfits you can put him in.
Most people can only dream of getting that much fanservice of their favourite boy and rely on fanart.

ex-farmhandDébutant
No. 2443773>>2443776>>2444757

>>2443772
They all have the personality and backstory of white bread though.

LaurMerveilleux
No. 2443774>>2443776>>2444757

>>2443772
Yes, he has all that content and fanservice exactly so women fall in love with him and spend their cash! Of course you can like him as a character and all that, but those sort of games exist just to make people blow money on the gacha and merch, and I find their characters inherently kinda lame because of this

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2443776>>2443777>>2443778>>2444648

File (hide): 1741938225496.jpg (91.73 KB, 1170x1177, Gk-Uv8ubQAAtrhv.jpg)

>>2443773
>>2443774
>ton of content is bad!
>a-actually their personalities must be bland even though I haven't read it!
>why do women like pretty boy characters?
>why do women like old men characters?
>why do women not have ugly self-inserts?
Maybe you just need to learn to enjoy things and let people enjoy their things.

keksMerveilleux
No. 2443777

>>2443776
list of shit i didnt say. if you wanna get played by gachaslop go ahead. i swear youre the same person always trying to infight with me with the "quoting you but i add a stutter to make you look dumb" thing

ashley jankowskiDébutant
No. 2443778>>2444757

>>2443776
>a-actually their personalities must be bland even though I haven't read it!
Watched the anime, all these bitches boring as shit.
I personally don't care if someone likes enstars or not, I just think they have the husbando taste of enjoying unsalted crackers if they do.

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2443782>>2444648>>2444757

>>2443771
no you're definitely right. i'm all for women having fun with cute bishies or whatever but these gacha game boys from stuff like 18trip and enstars (where ALL their content is based in the gacha game and paywalled in some capacity, forcing you to spend money or attend a real-life event in japan) just feel like the yume equivalent of industry plants– and i say this as someone who was an enstars yumejo back in the day. i miss when more yumes were into guys from manga or drama cd series.

>>2443772
just because he gets content doesn't mean the writing is good, nona. the main author for that series is a hack who makes all of his choices based on shock value and what will bring in the fujobucks for hapiele. pick up a book or something.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWSans Pareil
No. 2443786>>2443791>>2443802

>>2443756
Those guys are incels and everyone makes fun of them. Not to mention isekai anime where the stories are like "I'm a fat neckbeard and I reincarnated as an anime girl", even the anime creators make fun of their audience.
Also there are a lot of men who self-insert as superheroes, vikings, and other kinds of "winner" types of men. Women can self-insert as princesses if they want to.

CerbminOwner
No. 2443791

>>2443786
the princess anime always suck ass though. it's always shit like
>i became the side character who the prince falls in love with but i am bland as hell and don't want to step on anyone's toes for the first 2/3rds of the series
meanwhile males have
>i became the universe's most satisfying dildo on the horny sexy demon succubus planet also i am sentient and can turn into a girl for some hot lesbian action and everyone wants to marry me
the mc in yume and otome stuff is always the most awful passive nothing

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2443802

>>2443786
>incels
the sad part is that the normalization of these characters is pretty much a great thing for men because it shows people accept them way more and objectify them much less, alongside way more variety of male self-insert beyond those plain characters. also nobody's saying women can't self-insert as princesses. discussion of the collective trends generally isn't an attack on them by default.

its givingDébutant
No. 2443805

>>2443489
Looking at the kind of men they pick I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and wonder if it's a combination of irony poisoning and looking for a father figure to fill the void in their lives rather than actual crush/love. I used to latch on to a lot of big brother/father-like male characters because I was desperate for some kind of a positive male figure in my life despite not being attracted to them so I get it.

rottenbeardSans Pareil
No. 2443817>>2443865>>2444678

>>2443657
A lot of yume-based hentai bothers me because it's often extremely female-centric in a negative way, like the focus is constantly on showing off how unbelievably hot the female MC's body is and how attractive she is in every given situation, the moid seems to be more of an afterthought or a floating dildo. It always reminds me of that one poignant comic in which the woman experiences her sexuality only through her own perceived attractiveness, like she needs to pick a position for sex that doesn't make her look like she has a double chin or belly rolls.

That said, personally I wish self inserts had more variety rather than just a super hot goddess perfect in every way or a plain (you) with no identifying traits at all. Like you can have an interesting design and a bit of a personality while still allowing plenty of room for identifying with the protagonist. In fact, for me it's easier to self insert if a protagonist is closer to my tastes rather than just an NPC off the street.

WhiteGlovianDébutant
No. 2443855>>2443857>>2444678

>>2443511
There should be more games where women rape men. In fact, there should be games centered around men looking like complete sluts 24/7 and also being in love with female MCs, and there needs to be an entire industry underground of indie games/manga by/for women where men are raped and exploited by women. Where is the male version of Teaching Feeling? Emergence?
Men are so retarded it's unreal lol

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2443857>>2443869>>2444492

>>2443855
Imagine if Saya no Uta was genderbent, would it be hailed as a great piece of writing with every weeb girl having a nonchalant Saya figure in their rooms because "it's ackshually super deep bless Urobuchi for being a genius storyteller"? I'm guessing the answer is a big fat "No".

fuck_fujoshitsSans Pareil
No. 2443863

>>2443374
I know you're right nonna which is why this guy nearly turned me into a furry if I'm not already…

Submas Goes In The Image FieldMerveilleux
No. 2443865>>2444694

>>2443817
Really, this is why I used to read a bunch of regular anime porn, it isn't that different from original yume porn, the emphasis is always on the girl anyways, but at least in regular anime porn I can find anime girls that are physically similar to me so I sift through the retarded and nasty shit and find like 2 manga that are bearable.
The difference between those though is that there is a change in the narrative most of the time and you actually read the thoughts of the anime girl rather than the thoughts of the coom rotten guy.

straight-with-extra-stepsSans Pareil
No. 2443869>>2443883>>2443893

>>2443857
>genderbent sayo no uta
>saya is a loli
>boy saya would then be a shota
idk how I feel about this nonna but more power to you. We need more games where women get the female archtype (male) of their dreams.

NullMerveilleux
No. 2443883>>2444492

>>2443869
Anon the point is that Saya no Uta is filled with gratuitous rape scenes, many of which include the clearly prepubescent female lead, and a paper thin plot relying on shock horror and Eldritchian tropes to tie them together and it's seen as a cornerstone in horror visual novels and openly celebrated, but if Saya was a shota it would be considered a low class fetish game with a tryhard 2deep4u story.

Kirby_is_GNCDébutant
No. 2443893

>>2443869
NTA but I don't really care, I want men to be uncomfortable and gaslit.

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2443931

>>2443736
Men are uncomfortable with being seeing as attractive to women and hate that yes even female fictional characters would want men who are actually attractive and not fucking Mario. So they perpetuate the psy op that women should be attracted to their shit genes because "they're the hero."

its givingSans Pareil
No. 2443939>>2443975

>>2443657
Why should we keep caring what moids do? Why should we go to their level? They don't care about being attractive to waifus because men love pretending that women don't care about looks and would happily propagate their shit genetics (on top of that, men's clothing is just less revealing and have less variety than female clothing).
Romance is the most shallow form of love. Everybody should strive to be pretty without being obsessive about it. It's not cucking yourself to want to see that.

its givingSans Pareil
No. 2443975>>2444093>>2444264

File (hide): 1741959676516.jpg (1.99 MB, 2000x1039, MJJLBEDDBMLINOQJQPYVTHMSGY.jpg)

>>2443939
Preach! Only men should be allowed escapist media where the nice guy gets a woman way out of his league just by being himself. Meanwhile, all media for women should strictly enforce the highest, most supreme standards of performative femininity—constantly reminding them that unless their sheer beauty knocks out everyone within a 100 metre radius, they are unworthy of love and might as well not exist.

ex-farmhandLumineux
No. 2443976>>2444353

>>2443662
man I cant help but think yumes are based. really what is the point of keeping a 3dpd moid around if you dont want kids.
yumes they can never make me hate you.

fujo-to-tif-piplineSans Pareil
No. 2444085

>>2443687
actually pulchra is a direct response to furries complaining that all the animal girl characters up until now have just been ears and tail on normal girls. She is absolutely designed for furries by furries kek

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2444086

>>2443495
They recast his va, he was fired for striking despite not being part of a union, same with soldier 11 va

kakaDébutant
No. 2444093>>2444139>>2444193>>2444262

>>2443975
Those obligatory makeover scenes ruined me as a kid. If any teen movie had the outcast nerd girl, you bet she's be all dolled up for some scrote and proceeds become any other pretty girl ever. They don't even try since the actor portraying is usually bombshell in real life.

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2444110>>2444114>>2444122>>2444131>>2444133>>2444177>>2444232>>2444236>>2444624

File (hide): 1741967371559.png (1.36 MB, 1080x1080, kimikoe_chara_new-3.png)

>>2443687
>same level of sexualization OR anthropomorphization
I am no furfag but I think this is a thing in nearly all furry shit outside of Beastars perhaps? Picrel is the teaser visual for an upcoming shoujo furry anime and the male and female furries look so different.

NullSans Pareil
No. 2444114

>>2444110
I genuinely don't know which one looks worse.

kys bishitsLumineux
No. 2444122>>2446610

>>2444110
>man is dog
>woman is cat
how innovating!

manmoder shoulderhonLumineux
No. 2444131>>2444133>>2444177>>2444217

File (hide): 1741968173509.jpg (164.54 KB, 763x1200, 1000060818.jpg)

>>2444110
Fwiw, googling it and it seems like there's male cats too.

crabbyLumineux
No. 2444133>>2444134

>>2444131
>>2444110
This art style is hideous imo. Why are all the characters so long

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2444134>>2444135>>2444136

>>2444133
It looks fine to me. Seems like it's going for a little bit of a "delicate and flowery" sort of feel which isnt particularly rare in shoujo.

elfearsLumineux
No. 2444135

>>2444134
I think it's the combination with the tiny super squashed faces which isn't helping.

all whores will dieMerveilleux
No. 2444136

>>2444134
I understand what they're going for, but I agree with other anon… something about it just looks begtier or gross to me.

trollcowDébutant
No. 2444139>>2444217

>>2444093
My bad. I had only seen the trailer and the main visual, so my first impression was that the mangaka chose to make the female furries look more human-like. But the cat guy in your pic looks pretty similar to the female one, so that is actually quite nice.

ashley jankowskiSans Pareil
No. 2444177>>2444238

File (hide): 1741970179643.jpg (410.26 KB, 1304x1037, 12937495.jpg)

>>2444110
>>2444131
The wolfman is unappealing even from an anthro/monsterfucker standpoint, skimming the manga he looks like a pinhead 90% of the time. His snout, jaw, fur game is weak

Astarion_is_walledLumineux
No. 2444183

File (hide): 1741970434718.jpeg (43.18 KB, 474x474, th-3124673598.jpeg)

>>2443511
>>2443703
>mileitrump4ever

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2444193

>>2444093
These scenes should ONLY happen with the dude and not out of 'revenge' but because he wants to glow up for her.
Very telling that I've only seen this in Panty & Stocking w/Garterbelt–and I've consumed A LOT of media. "He cleans up nicely" is too rare.

elfearsDébutant
No. 2444217>>2444228

File (hide): 1741972980057.webm (340.44 KB, 400x400, bocchi sudoku.webm) [play once] [loop]

>>2444139
Whoops, meant to reply to >>2444131

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2444228

>>2444217
Kek I was wondering wtf you were apologizing for

trollcowMerveilleux
No. 2444232

>>2444110
First time I want to enjoy a comfy humanxwolf monsterfucker anime and the have to make the wolf as fugly as possible smh

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2444236

File (hide): 1741973984677.png (928.99 KB, 846x1200, Hana and the beast man.png)

>>2444110
I've read this manga and its prequel, it has both male and female cat and dog anthro characters

fujo-to-tif-piplineMerveilleux
No. 2444238>>2444248

File (hide): 1741974176585.jpg (177.36 KB, 574x545, to the kill shelter he goes.jp…)

>>2444177
sadly hes genetically inbred too, he needs to be euthanized before he mauls the local obasan going for a walk

landmine-himeLumineux
No. 2444248

>>2444238
What happens when you don't mew

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2444262

>>2444093
only time this trope didn't piss me off as a kid was in the princess diaries since Mia still kept her dorkiness and headstrong nature, and she also decided to stay single by the time the 2nd movie ended.

Anonymous GeneDébutant
No. 2444264

>>2443975
Nobody said that, retard. Men should focus on beauty more than woman because that is their purpose

NullDébutant
No. 2444265

>>2443329
I'd put money on this being sincere nonna. Mip was a creepy stalker in the show and it seems to be popular to lust after characters like him. The negative or creepy traits are easily twisted into anime yandere uwu tragic love and since they're ugly the chance you'd have to "compete" with other selfshippers is low. The perfect man for unfortunate-looking terminally online troons. Plus, if you're prolific enough you may earn enough clout to become the the CEO of (character).
I wonder what Nemu would think of all this if she were still public. Part of her schtick was being the "weird waifu" girl. Now that every Tom, Sock and Aiden selfships with the ugliest characters imaginable she doesn't stick out so much. The sharing/non-sharing thing makes me kek cause what the hell are they gonna do when they come across another yume with the same waifu? These characters don't belong to any of them. If I were an author or showrunner I'd write in a canonical love interest just to fuck with these types.

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2444343

>>2443747
what.

>>2443756
damn, absolutely NONE of them have lips jfc. also, i'm not like a korean media expert but i've seen that some drama/manhwa leads are just regular ol' girls that manage to catch the attention of both the princely rich heir and the bad boy through the power of ~personality~. they do get ending up getting makeovers though so that ruins my whole point.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2444353>>2444432>>2444458>>2444492>>2444628>>2444637

File (hide): 1741979648443.png (190.34 KB, 623x623, 1711362399790724.png)

>>2443976
Anyone who says this has never had an actual encounter with a terminally online "non-sharing" yume before. They all are narcissists who will shit themselves at the sight of another person liking the same character as they do (not even legitimately self-shipping, mind you), God forbid another fan of their particular interest wants to interact with them and share thoughts.

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2444432

>>2444353
narcissists of all kinds are annoying and found in any community. still think yumes are based idc

Depressed_In_BucharestSans Pareil
No. 2444458>>2444617

>>2444353
NAYRT but I used to be friends with one and she would literally have a meltdown if she saw “doubles” or ship art of her fave with another character. It’s just 2010s kinnie tumblr all over again

straight-with-extra-stepsSans Pareil
No. 2444476

>>2443511
At this point we all know everything men say is projection of their own insecurities, but its really funny seeing them jealous of fictional boys when they've been using that argument for themselves whenever straight women dont like their disgusting waifuslop

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2444492>>2444544

>>2443857
>>2443883
This is how I feel when I go on /jp/ VN threads and see anons pretend certain galge are profound. Even the supposed female anons, they wouldnt be pretending its profound or interesting if the same themes remained with the roles reversed.
>>2444353
Most non-sharing yumes I've met seem no different from most weebs nowadays and just mute/block at their discretion. Sorry you got traumatized in some discord server by a yume sperg but no need to project that onto every single one.

keksSans Pareil
No. 2444544

>>2444492
>Most non-sharing yumes I've met seem no different from most weebs nowadays
Proving my point.
>in some discord server
Please, you have to be a fucking retard (AKA not me) to seek out fandom shitcord servers.
>no need to project that onto every single one.
Who would have thought people that delude themselves into treating fictional characters as if they were real might be mentally unstable?(infighting)

elfearsDébutant
No. 2444617>>2444618

>>2444458
It really is just kin shit again, seeing people here praise it so much is just telling of what kind of fandom demon they are.

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2444618>>2444619

>>2444617
People here praise it because it's really not that big of a deal if women don't want to seek out relationship with real scrotes lol..

ashley jankowskiLumineux
No. 2444619

>>2444618
Not dating scrotes is a completely separate matter from being a schizophrenic who’s impossible to interact with.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2444624

>>2444110
they couldnt even bother to give the guys dogsona human hair so it looks less uncanny

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2444628>>2444703

>>2444353
I think a lot of the yumes that act like this are just young (many teens are like that online, not just yumes) or womanchildren. But there are also yumes who either share and therefore are not so spergy by default, or if they are non-sharing, they're more chill.
They probably aren't the type you'd find in these Twitter communities, though.

SoapPropagandistSans Pareil
No. 2444631>>2444725

>>2443756
absolutely grim because i could automatically picture atleast 3 different mangas in my head with the same plot. its so generic and gives weebiescrotes false confidence, and then anger when it doesnt exist in the real world.
also, not to mention the generic 16 highschooler x 40 year old teacher hentai trope. its disgusting

Regards.Lumineux
No. 2444637>>2444660

>>2444353
I block my favorite character’s fans because I hate his fanon characterization. Most non-sharing yumejos just stick to their own stuff and not interact.

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2444648

>>2443776
Agreed. Even if the writing is bad, the design and personality generic, or the character is designed to manipulate you into blowing your paycheck on it every month (pathetic, yes) why does it surprise anyone that girls like cute bishies?

>>2443782
>just feel like the yume equivalent of industry plants
kek that's a good way to put it

trad4himLumineux
No. 2444660>>2444717

>>2444637
That's a reasonable motive and I doubt anybody here hasn't blocked someone over annoying OOC fanon before. Although in my personal experience, a lot of yumes (regardless if they are sharing or non-sharing) who accuse other fans of mischaracterization are themselves guilty of creating poor portrayals of their husbando.

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2444678

>>2443817
Yes, this is a problem with both the TL manga it's based on, and, although it's just my own speculation, the fact that the anime adaptation's staff is all or mostly male, especially the directors and producers who are always male, and the animators who are probably also scrotes. And not just that, but they're so used to animating hentai for moids that even if they tried, they couldn't make it female gaze. I think I even saw one case where the protagonist's massive breasts and nipples were very detailed (because of course), but the male love interest had no fucking nipples. The only difference between those anime and a regular hentai anime for moids is that the male has a face in a half-assed ikemen style kek.

>It always reminds me of that one poignant comic in which the woman experiences her sexuality only through her own perceived attractiveness

I always think of that comic when talking about these issues.

>In fact, for me it's easier to self insert if a protagonist is closer to my tastes rather than just an NPC off the street.

I couldn't agree more. I want more variety in protagonists, because it's always super feminine and perfect girl #1958710 or plain, faceless self-insert with so little personality that she just lets things happen around her #960971. It'd be awesome if there were as many protagonist types as there are kinds of women, but female-oriented genres are small compared to their male equivalents, plus they're being controlled by moids (except for BL), so it's hard for that variety to truly happen.

>>2443855
>and there needs to be an entire industry underground of indie games/manga by/for women where men are raped and exploited by women
Based and true.

weenusMerveilleux
No. 2444694

>>2443865
>The difference between those though is that there is a change in the narrative most of the time and you actually read the thoughts of the anime girl rather than the thoughts of the coom rotten guy.
You mean in hentai for males or TL manga? Because in my experience both do the same thing kek.
You're so right, it's infuriating when manga that's supposedly for women does the same things that porn for men does, and with worse art on top of all that. Personally, I'd rather find a rare hentai gem among all the trash, than be disappointed by "our" genre over and over again. Although I'd obviously support any TL author that does things right in a heartbeat, I'll do everything in my power to financially support those women.
Sucks not being a fujo anymore, because then I wouldn't be facing this dilemma.

Depressed_In_BucharestDébutant
No. 2444703

>>2444628
Adding onto my post (too late to delete now), I once had a funny encounter with a crazy yume online who husbando'd the same character I did at her age, around 14. I even acted in the same cringe way at that age. She was being an asshole to someone else so I pretended to claim him in front of her and she got insanely mad kek. Then I told her to chill out and that it was just a joke. I really can't get mad at girls like these, they're just immature teenagers and they'll probably get over it as they grow up. I just find them funny.

frill thrillSans Pareil
No. 2444717

>>2444660
>a lot of yumes who accuse other fans of mischaracterization are themselves guilty of creating poor portrayals of their husbando.
Yeah that’s why I’m non-sharing kek

landmine-himeDébutant
No. 2444721

>>2443769
do you think they see these characters as women?

LaurMerveilleux
No. 2444725

>>2444631
YMMV but I love that trope and it's a common "shoujo" trope not "hentai" trope lmao

novemberLumineux
No. 2444745>>2444753

>>2443762
the art is really cute too bad she seems like a crazy bitch

kys bishitsDébutant
No. 2444748>>2444749

>>2443771
god forbid women like pretty male characters when 90% of male characters in media are ugly

fujo-to-tif-piplineSans Pareil
No. 2444749

>>2444748
I think their issue is more on the gacha male puppy mill aspect.

sageSans Pareil
No. 2444752

>>2443771
>theyre made to appeal to people and get lots of money, when you husbando these type of characters and blow a bunch of money on rolls and merch youre literally getting played like a fiddle
You just described the majority of modern otaku shows/games

novemberDébutant
No. 2444753

>>2444745
the art is quite obviously commissioned, also i bet she is one of those turbo passive aggressive crazy ones with the pink haired oc and the “<3” after a threat

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2444757>>2444758>>2444766>>2444771>>2444786>>2444790>>2444799>>2444804>>2444816>>2444883>>2445090>>2445273>>2446957

File (hide): 1741998942107.webp (81.91 KB, 1000x462, 29_Tomoya_Mashiro_CG.webp)

>>2443771
>>2443773
>>2443774
>>2443778
>>2443782
>liking cute husbandos tailored for women BAD!
>actually if you like husbandos who are meant to be appealing to you, you have bland taste
>you like thing with cute boys made for you? you are an industry plant not a real yume!!1!
Holy shit you bitches are as annoying and crazy as attention whore moralfagging gendies who ''yume'' for crazy ugly characters or have to trannify characters so they can larp as ''lesbians'' with geriatric cartman. Being a yume is not a contest about whose taste is the most morally correct, you absolute baffoons. You are not a better yume or a ''real'' one because you simp for some ugly male character from a scrote mango with a ''''deep'''' lore meant for moids. The whole point of being a yume is to distance yourself from real life moids, yet you sound like those nlogs who screech at women who like jpop boys for being ''shallow'' and not being into ''real'' men(fat, ugly, bald). Sorry but i am yume because no 3DPD could reach the level of perfection of a 2D bishie. I am not interested in being a yume for flawed or ugly characters, i dont care how 3deep5u their stories are i just want to daydream about a cute anime boy who's too perfect to exist irl, who doesnt have flaws and if he does they are cute flaws who make him cuter and more appealing to me. You bitches are so annoying you gotta be NLOG about fucking husbandos. How you manage to be a pickme for fictional men is beyond me. Notice how moids are never moralfagged into liking ugly female characters? how they are never told that stuff being made for them is BAD, and instead have the opposite problem where media is often bend to be appealing for them(and only them). But suddenly when women get the same treatment its bad ackshually, women are not allowed to like pretty anime boys with cute personalities, no, just like IRL we gotta see past the visual appeal, we gotta be ''better and not shallow'' even in our fantasies. I am so tired of all the moralfagging. Enjoy your ugly husbandos all you like, but you arent better and you dont have ''pristine'' taste because you yume for a character made for moids.(infighting)

weenusSans Pareil
No. 2444758>>2444759>>2444771

>>2444757
aint nobody reading allat sis(go back)

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2444759

>>2444758
its not even that long, but here
tl;dr: stop moralfagging about husbandos, you are the reason why ironic husbandofags like the south park randy ''lesbian'' exist.

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2444766>>2444797

>>2444757
>Ensharts
I know your bank account is in the gutter

NullLumineux
No. 2444771>>2444779>>2444797

>>2444758
Newfags can't read

>>2444757
Okay nonny but I think the main problem those anons have is that those characters come from a predatory gacha game. I think if it weren't gashit, they wouldn't mind that much because it'd be as stupid as getting mad at women falling for shoujo manga love interests.
Also rich of you saying being a yume is not a contest while shitting on yumes you don't like

ashley jankowskiMerveilleux
No. 2444774

>>2443662
this is so fucking retarded it's almost based kek, yoomers ftw

SoapPropagandistMerveilleux
No. 2444779

>>2444771
no i just dont give a fuck about what a broke girl has to say about yume shit(infighting)

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2444780

>>2443702
>FUCKING FEMINISTS THINK EVERYTHING IS RAPE
>WAIT YOU WANT TO FUCK A HOT GUY? THAT'S HECKIN GR*PE IM LITERALLY SHAKING

sageSans Pareil
No. 2444782

File (hide): 1742000515787.jpeg (32.11 KB, 510x346, Da7lHVCU8AUnZq-.jpeg)

>>2443511
>Rape is when women want to fuck a guy who is hotter than me
Ah, so this is how "men get raped too".

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2444783>>2446736

>>2443662
Thanks for posting this gem. I love yumes so fucking much.
>Seph actually finds people like you amusing
I'm laughing my ass off, how do you know that? He's not fucking real!

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2444786

>>2444757
you speak the truth, weeb women are constantly nitpicked by other women for what weeb men constantly do. irony poisoning and insecurity ruin fandom, i wish other women would just say they like pretty men and common het fantasies.

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2444790

>>2444757
Absolutely based Tomoya nonnie.

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2444797>>2444809>>2444812>>2445273

File (hide): 1742001252023.png (915.04 KB, 991x583, asdsadasdsadasads.png)

>>2444766
I have never spent a dime on this game. I only produce one idol, so i only save up for his cards. The only f2ps that struggle with gachas are the whores who just do it for the thrill and not because they genuinely want the card.
>>2444771
Its not predatory though, you can enjoy the game just fine without spending a dime. I saved all this just from playing daily and saving for my husbando.
>spoiler
learn to read because the only ''''yumes'''' i shat on are the obvious attention whore gendies. If you cant even love your husbando without having to trannify him so you can larp as genderspecials and not lose your gender special LGBTWTFBBQ bragging rights, then yeah, thats the ONLY thing that makes you a fake yume. If you cant love your husbando without butchering his character to the point he's unrecognizable just to fit your own manufactured gender identity then you clearly dont really love him how he is and are just attention whoring.

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2444799

>>2444757
I love you nona

novemberSans Pareil
No. 2444804>>2444811

>>2444757
So much yume nitpicking could be solved if western yumes bothered to look at JP yume culture for five seconds and realized that being a yume is not serious business or something inherently deep.

Anonymous GeneDébutant
No. 2444809>>2444822

>>2444797
>Its not predatory though
Microtransactions in video games are inherently predatory, and gacha games are the worst example of it. Just because you (claim to) play completely F2P doesn't mean gacha games don't intentionally use dirty tactics to influence players into spending money. Commercial video games in general are meant to be addictive, gacha adds elements of gambling to make things worse.
>learn to read because the only ''''yumes'''' i shat on are the obvious attention whore gendies.
Yeah, sure.
>the whores who just do it for the thrill
>You are not a better yume or a ''real'' one because you simp for some ugly male character from a scrote mango with a ''''deep'''' lore meant for moids
>Enjoy your ugly husbandos all you like

straight-with-extra-stepsLumineux
No. 2444811>>2444825

>>2444804
Japanese yumes can get pretty crazy and sensitive though (as do Japanese shippers of any kind) so I don't think you make a good point

weenusDébutant
No. 2444812>>2444822

>>2444797
>it's not predatory
>gacha game
its just slot machines with a different coat of paint, nona. spending on gacha is highly incentivized and there are certain things that are unobtainable without paid currency. glad you have an anime boywife but please be serious for a second

landmine-himeSans Pareil
No. 2444816>>2444820>>2444822>>2444827>>2444828>>2445022

File (hide): 1742002122919.webp (30.4 KB, 716x1200, IMG_3527.webp)

>>2444757
NTA, but i dont think those anons were saying you cant like attractive male characters, its just so many times those male characters are made by moids who are profiting off of the gap in the yume game market. like cmon, this is literally the CEO of papergames, the company that made love and deepspace. i have never played enstars, but you cant blame anyone who thinks its a generic gachaslop game from first glance. Mystic messenger is the worst example of this, Yes the husbandos are decent but you literally have to pay to learn more about their character, other than that they are bland and generic.(derailing)

ex-farmhandDébutant
No. 2444820

>>2444816
Damn. I read that a decent part of either Infold or Papergames was women (where did they even learn that? I'd like to see the source). What's the use if the CEO is gonna be a male anyway? Nothing he says will ever feel genuine.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldDébutant
No. 2444822>>2444866>>2444905

>>2444809
oh so they can call bishies bland and poorly written, and the yumes who simp for them industry plants but cannot take shit back? kek, as always they throw the first rock then they get angry when people returns them their nasty attitude. Once you shit on someone's taste and act holier than thou you open the flood gates and you are not entitled to my politeness anymore.
>>2444812
>boywife
cringe, dont call my husband that disgusting twitter tranny term ever again. Also, again, its not the system's fault that people cannot moderate themselves. They gotta make a profit somehow. Before gacha VNs and husbando anime used to make money off selling merch, some of which you had to acquire through a raffle system.
>>2444816
oh no god forbid things are made for women!!!! lets go back to all media having bland male protagonists and skimpy women, women cant get shit, its bad actually!! women are not allowed escapism, its bad when women do it
>other than that they are bland and generic.
sorry i forgot that the world revolves around you and your opinion, when did you become CEO of husbandofaggotry?

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2444825>>2444831

>>2444811
So did selfshippers but you never saw people treating selfshipping as something serious based off of them and acting like you had to be that way if you wanted to be a "true" one.

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2444827

>>2444816
I'm curious, what female-led, female-owned franchises are you into?

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2444828>>2444866

>>2444816
Tbf if you took out every husbando in the husbando thread with a male creator you wouldn't be left with much. There's Mr. Crawling ig.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2444831

>>2444825
Oh, I see your point now.

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2444833>>2444836>>2444839>>2444908

Why have anons been seething about yumes all day, this topic is no different from the fujohime moralfagging. Take that shit to the containment thread.

WhiteGlovianLumineux
No. 2444836>>2444840>>2444841

>>2444833
I think this topic is way less annoying than the other one, tbh.

weegeewifeDébutant
No. 2444839>>2444844

>>2444833
There isn't one, pretty sure bringing up yume bad in the antifujo thread would be seen as a threat.

kakaMerveilleux
No. 2444840

>>2444836
We can tell why you do

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2444841>>2444848

>>2444836
Nta but both are annoying when it goes on for hours

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2444844>>2444848>>2444851

>>2444839
>ITT: Discuss the controversies and disagreements between fujoshi, yumejoshi, and himejoshi.
Inccorect, that is your containment thread.

imSkirbeseMerveilleux
No. 2444848>>2444852

>>2444844
This isn't even a yume vs. fujo thing. It's yume infighting.

>>2444841
I guess, but I mean, this one doesn't feel as angry.

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2444851>>2444855

>>2444844
Thought you meant the other one.
Also what's up with anons refusing to believe more than one person is in a conversation? It's obnoxious. Sure it was meant to be a slightly snide comment, but a fairly harmless one.

BlowjobsAreForPigsLumineux
No. 2444852>>2444861

>>2444848
>yume infighting
Dont lump me in with them, I’m actively shitting on them and I’ll do it in the other thread

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2444855>>2444865

>>2444851
Who said anything about there only being one person involved?

CerbminOwner
No. 2444861

>>2444852
It's ok nonita. Go and let it all out in the other thread if you want.

weenusDébutant
No. 2444865>>2444882

>>2444855
Do you see how it works when I reply to your comment and say "your comment"? You understand I'm specifically addressing you, yes?

LaurLumineux
No. 2444866>>2444887>>2444908>>2445017

>>2444822
>last reply
Is this just scrote bait? I literally just said I agreed with you. There is nothing wrong with liking attractive male characters, its just the motives behind the people who make them that make their personalities flat. I just found it harder to like gacha husbandos because i felt like the female version of a scrote coomer who simps over his generic big titty waifu. But if you like it, more props to you. Its definitely better than that one yume who liked that gnome-looking thing from smiling friends lol. Again, to me he looks like a generic blonde haired anime boy, but i dont play enstars, so maybe you see something i dont.
>>2444828
Yes, its very different when it is pure fanservice though. it just feels a bit sneaky to me. Doesnt feel organic

Kirby_is_GNCSans Pareil
No. 2444871

What is going on kek

Submas Goes In The Image FieldDébutant
No. 2444882>>2444904

>>2444865
Point to where I said only one anon is in the conversation. Please, do show me where you failed basic reading comprehension.(infighting)

kakaLumineux
No. 2444883


imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2444887>>2444896>>2445479

>>2444866
Nta but I love how you tried this bait last thread and pre-faced it with “do not argue with me” only to bring it up again in this thread to argue it kek, at least stick to your guns. What a loser.

NullDébutant
No. 2444896>>2444907

>>2444887
NTA but you can't be sure that's the same person. Several people agreed with that point earlier.
I don't know who is baiting who anymore lmao

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWLumineux
No. 2444904>>2444912

>>2444882
Are you replying to me specifically or speaking of the entire thread again?

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2444905>>2444916

>>2444822
>it's not the system's fault people can't moderate themselves
it's also not the consumer's fault that gacha mechanics rely on gambling for high-rarity characters with low rates. before pity systems were forced in due to law changes, there was no limit to how much people could theoretically spend trying to get their husbando/waifu. some guy literally spent 6k usd trying to get a new meta character in granblue for god's sake. you can have your gacha game boyfriend but acting like the systems in place for gacha games, which take advantage of yumes who want content of their oshi saying cute and dreamy things to them, don't have a predatory aspect that baits people into spending real money for them is wacko behaviour

Astarion_is_walledDébutant
No. 2444907

>>2444896
I mean you can just look at the last thread and see the exact same speaking points. Its a strangely specific thing to suddenly bring up in a short time frame.

Anonymous GeneDébutant
No. 2444908>>2444916

>>2444866
nona take a deep breath and take a step away from your monitor, please
>>2444833
all -joshi infights are obnoxious as fuck

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2444912>>2444928

>>2444904
Do you know how imageboards work newfag-chan?

its givingLumineux
No. 2444916>>2444920>>2444938>>2444990>>2445015>>2445479

>>2444905
Not to mention, several big gacha games are based on pre-existing franchises, so they attract people who were already husbando/waifuing characters from a non-gacha game, and do everything in their power to bait them into spending money.

>their oshi

Unrelated to the topic at hand, but why the fuck have westerners started using the term "oshi" to mean "favorite"? Isn't oshi supposed to be more akin to "fan"? Like, YOU are the oshi, not the character.

>>2444908
She sounds more calm and reasonable than the sperg who posted the generic gacha bishie.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2444920>>2444924

>>2444916
ayrt i actually meant to reply to the enshitter

Ashton_WintersDébutant
No. 2444924


SoapPropagandistDébutant
No. 2444928>>2444930

>>2444912
Tried to explain how replies worked but it seems like it didn't go through.

fujo-to-tif-piplineDébutant
No. 2444930>>2444937

>>2444928
I’ll take that as a no then. Still waiting for you to point to the proof of your original statement.

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2444937>>2444945

>>2444930
Damn you're nice. Deleted the reply, and didn't take advantage of me replying with "your comment" to go "now who is the one thinking this conversation is only between two people". Still don't know how you can't understand how somebody could see "your containment thread" as insinuating they're a schizo yume though.

all whores will dieLumineux
No. 2444938>>2445034

>>2444916
ayrt it's used in both contexts from what i've seen from my time going to concerts in japan. it both refers to a favourite member of a group as well as your status as a fan of a group.

crabbySans Pareil
No. 2444945>>2444979

>>2444937
Ah so you’ve changed your point from me saying “only one person is in the conversation” to me implying you’re a schizo yume. I’ll explain it clearly so that even a retarded baby can understand: If you reply to me, of course I will address you directly. That doesnt mean I think you’re the only person involved in the original discussion. If you lack the basic cognitive function to connect those dots, then you probably shouldn’t be here.

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2444979

>>2444945
Shit nevermimd, seems like you're a pissy twat. Before you post next time, maybe ask your guardian about how the words you use come across to other people.
I never changed my point, though. I don't know why I have to explain it to you, but the discussion the thread was about yume fighting each other. If anything, you just admitted that you were replying to me directly originally.

Kirby_is_GNCLumineux
No. 2444990>>2445034

>>2444916
Nona this is embarrassing. You can use it both ways.

weegeewifeDébutant
No. 2445015>>2445034

>>2444916
Oshi literally means favorite what are you on about

CerbminOwner
No. 2445017>>2445021>>2445041>>2445479

>>2444866
genuinely why are you so bothered over what type of husbando women have. Maybe if it was something really cringe or even creepy but being mad over bishies is insane moralfaggotry.

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2445021>>2445028

>>2445017
The bishie haters just want to feel superior to other women. They even shit on non gacha bishies from random anime too don’t take the anti-gacha moralfagging seriously, its fake concern.

Skelly-ArmDébutant
No. 2445022>>2445027>>2445028>>2445032>>2445055>>2445081

>>2444816
I was the one who originally said gacha husbandos are lame and yeah thats what i meant. its just you getting marketted to lol. never said its wrong to like generic bishies but i find the gacha bishies lame. i dont get why people are saying this is nitpicking women, as i would say the same thing about men's gacha waifus, i just specified husbandos as this is supposed to be a woman's website…

kys bishitsSans Pareil
No. 2445027>>2445033

>>2445022
>its just you getting marketted to
Just like most media

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2445028>>2445033>>2445040

>>2445021
I will never understand how anyone can see stuff being made for women as a bad thing. When literally 90% of media has fanservice for men. Probably most of their husbandos come from series that have tons of fanservice and tailor made waifus for men.
>>2445022
post your husbando then

its givingLumineux
No. 2445032

>>2445022
Wait til you find out that anything targeted to a demographic involves marketing

keksLumineux
No. 2445033>>2445035>>2445036>>2445038>>2445039>>2445081

>>2445028
when did i say media for women is a bad thing? i dont feel superior its literally just something that puts me off, ive never been able to get attached to a gacha character, male or female, because they have a gross "give us your money" feel to them. also i husbando the onceler if it matters
>>2445027
yes but most games you pay 30-60$ and youre done with it. gachaslop exists to get people to dump hundreds or thousands

fujo-to-tif-piplineMerveilleux
No. 2445034

>>2445015
>>2444990
>>2444938
I stand corrected.

sageDébutant
No. 2445035>>2445070

>>2445033
>yes but most games you pay 30-60$ and youre done with it.
and gachas are free

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2445036>>2445045

>>2445033
>also i husbando the onceler if it matters
you dont even have the balls to post your real husbando

Skelly-ArmLumineux
No. 2445038>>2445045

>>2445033
Nona those anons are the "SO YOU HATE WAFFLES??" kind of tard, don't even acknowledge them. Anyone with reading comprehension knows what you meant and won't take it personally.

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2445039

>>2445033
Honestly in enstars, the roster is so large that by the time your fave rolls around you can get him for free, hell even two favorites is fine f2p. the only people strapped for cash are gigawhales trying to max out every card or people who roll for entire units.

LaurLumineux
No. 2445040

>>2445028
dont you know nonny, you’re supposed to slobber over a shounen man or an side character with 2 seconds of screentime instead of something targeted at you

kys bishitsSans Pareil
No. 2445041

>>2445017
Seeing someone act like a nlog on lolcow over who people husbando is kinda funny kek

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2445044>>2445046>>2445047

So is the problem the gacha system and not the fanservice? is something like DoA or Oneechambura fine then? since its a full game even though it has the same quality of a f2p gacha

elfearsLumineux
No. 2445045>>2445050>>2445074

>>2445036
i mean id post my paintings of him but i posted them on my twitter too and you could probably reverse image search them, so it feels like a bad idea
>>2445038
thank you

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2445046

>>2445044
The problem is wahmen bad for liking basic boy instead of enlightened tumblr sexyman

elfearsDébutant
No. 2445047

>>2445044
She tries to spin it to be about the gacha system when anons point out her talking points are specifically about the niche subset of women, its a conversational loop.

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2445049

Remember to ignore blatant bait

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2445050

>>2445045
if he was actually your husbando it would be insanely ironic you complain about ''bland'' bishies KEK

ashley jankowskiMerveilleux
No. 2445055>>2445060

>>2445022
>its just you getting marketted to lol
This is bait. It has to be.

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2445060>>2445062>>2445065>>2445069>>2445074

>>2445055
how is it bait to say that gacha characters exist to get people to spend on rolls and merch?? im sorry for even giving my opinion on this in the first place yesterday i swear whenever i post a controversial opinion it leads to a day-long infight like maybe i should just shut up. sorry.

ex-farmhandSans Pareil
No. 2445062>>2445067

>>2445060
Almost every anime character exists to sell shit its not unique

trad4himLumineux
No. 2445065

>>2445060
Baby's first day discovering capitalism?

manmoder shoulderhonMerveilleux
No. 2445067>>2445077

>>2445062
yes but ive frequently seen people spend hundreds or thousands to c6 their favorite blob person in genshin or honkai. thats what i mean. those games feel insidious to me and i cant connect with the characters for this reason. thats all im saying.

Anonymous GeneDébutant
No. 2445069>>2445079

>>2445060
anon the fucking onceler exists to sell shit too

trollcowSans Pareil
No. 2445070>>2445075>>2445078

>>2445035
Yeah it’s free, but with a massive asterisk next to it saying that you will probably need to do a microtransaction to get what you want out of it. Don’t you think a flat one-time payment is better than gradually spending over time only for those PNGs to eventually disappear because the company shuts it down?

BlowjobsAreForPigsLumineux
No. 2445074>>2445076

>>2445045
I play a couple of gashit games and I see where you're coming from. I don't agree with the idea that husbandos from otome games are "fake" or "shallow", but I do agree that gacha games are garbage designed to milk your wallet and that makes them inferior to any other kind of game. But still, gacha characters are characters just like any other, so it's not shocking that people fall for them. But I get being put off by the gacha aspect.

>>2445060
Stop replying, Jesus. If you ignore them, they'll shut up after a while. Notice how there wasn't this amount of seething towards you a couple of hours ago, the replies exploded out of nowhere. Let it go for a while and they'll shut up. This is basic imageboard etiquette, you don't need to defend yourself to people who just want to fight.

straight-with-extra-stepsMerveilleux
No. 2445075

>>2445070
I wish we could go back to before microtransactions got popular.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWLumineux
No. 2445076

>>2445074
Of course anons will shut up when she finally stops posting bait kek

weegeewifeMerveilleux
No. 2445077

>>2445067
That doesn’t mean the freaking onceler is a bettet husbando choice because you feel that way though

trollcowMerveilleux
No. 2445078>>2445088>>2445089

>>2445070
>Don’t you think a flat one-time payment is better
and less content, a playable life of maybe a few weeks and the possibility of never garnering enough for a sequel? no, thanks. I take the f2p model. Fanmade servers will always exist.

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2445079>>2445083

>>2445069
thneed isn’t a real product

Depressed_In_BucharestSans Pareil
No. 2445081>>2445084

>>2445022
>>2445033
Where do console otome games fit with your nlog ideology? Since they’re one-time purchases that are specifically marketed to you.

landmine-himeMerveilleux
No. 2445083

File (hide): 1742010996395.jpg (41.19 KB, 465x515, 1699908736604029.jpg)

>>2445079
ive heard everything. nothing you can say about him will phase me at this point.

crabbyLumineux
No. 2445084

>>2445081
Female targeted media is lesser because it involves marketing, dont you know?

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2445088>>2445095

>>2445078
why do you need a constant stream of canon content flowing into your veins like some kind of iv bag? at least one-time purchase games can tell a whole story in one sitting without walling off stories through a literal gambling mechanic

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2445089>>2445092>>2445095

>>2445078
NTA but in the vast majority of cases, you're getting less content and/or less quality out of a gacha game than a game you gotta pay for once, of comparable quality. It's better to wait for a fully developed game, unless you have internet-induced ADHD and are addicted to the gacha model, which seems to be most young people nowadays since everything around them, like social media, is designed to deliver short-form content slop and keep them glued to their phones to watch as many advertisements as possible (ultimately, to profit off of them more, just like gacha… interesting).
Gachashitters are so pathetic when they try to defend their gambling addiction kek.

kys bishitsLumineux
No. 2445090

>>2444757
This post cured me.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2445092

>>2445089
Nona I am in love with you from this response. Thank you for having a brain.

its givingSans Pareil
No. 2445095>>2445097>>2445106

>>2445088
Because its escapism and it brings me happiness. After seeing the attrocities men commit irl and how ugly the average scrote is i just want to come back home with a mint tea and see my husbando. I cant do that if the game has only 50 hours of playable time.
>>2445089
>It's better to wait for a fully developed game
Women have been waiting years for this. I am sorry but its not happening. You cry and moan but you arent going to learn how to code and do it yourself either. You just want to have the moral high ground either because you dont actually play otomes/yume/fujos games or because your taste alligns more to the normie ugly scrotes you see in normal videogames so you never had a drought in content yourself. Gaming has been a thing since the 80s and i can only come up with 7 male characters that are actually attractive in a sea of hideous coom creatures and generic male self inserts.

NullDébutant
No. 2445097>>2445101>>2445106

>>2445095
you know what else is escapism? using your imagination instead of relying on gachaslop companies to spoonfeed you content. you sound like a retarded zoomer with a TikTok addiction

Submas Goes In The Image FieldSans Pareil
No. 2445098>>2445100>>2445102

Her husbando is the onceler btw

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2445100

>>2445098
The absolute state.

Anonymous GeneLumineux
No. 2445101

>>2445097
where did the gacha husbando touch you nonny

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2445102

>>2445098
I stopped engaging after that reveal kek

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2445106>>2445108>>2445109>>2445111>>2445112>>2445113

>>2445095
Nice non-argument. Gachashit sucks ass, it's an excuse to both spend less resources on a game that could've been 10 times better, and to extract more money from your credit card. Gacha players are constantly cucked by the devs, always complaining about how the devs have screwed them over in some way. Gacha players have to log in daily and do boring-ass in-game chores (read: waste time) just to save up on whatever free currency the game has, and then they cope pretending that they were totally not played by the game because they're not actually spending any money on it.
>Because its escapism and it brings me happiness. After seeing the attrocities men commit irl and how ugly the average scrote is i just want to come back home with a mint tea and see my husbando. I cant do that if the game has only 50 hours of playable time.
Oh god this is just sad. You don't need gashit in your life to have a husbando or to escape from real life. How the fuck do you think fandoms survived before huge social media platforms like Twitter became the default and before gacha was a thing? Like >>2445097 you can literally just use your imagination.
>but you arent going to learn how to code and do it yourself either.
Nice projection too. Sorry that you gave up, but I'm actually learning programming and developing my own stuff.
>you dont actually play otomes/yume/fujos games
lmao, more completely wrong assumptions.
>or because your taste alligns more to the normie ugly scrotes you see in normal videogames so you never had a drought in content yourself.
And even more assumptions with no basis or point. Are you seriously implying there has ever been a drought of bishies in media? Shoujo manga, shoujo anime, otome games have always been there and they were very popular. Many are still popular. Do you think that just because they're not as huge in popularity as Genshit Infart they have literally no fans? kek. Fully developed otome games are a thing and they are being talked about today, I wasn't necessarily talking about non-romance games.
>Gaming has been a thing since the 80s and i can only come up with 7 male characters
Then instead of wasting your time (and probably money) on gacha games, crying about having to see ugly males, and defending your addiction online, learn to program?

crabbyLumineux
No. 2445108

>>2445106
nona just stop theyre obviously just in bad faith at this point. they dont even have anymore arguments so theyre just making fun of my husbando kek

manmoder shoulderhonDébutant
No. 2445109

>>2445106
tl;dr: NO FUN ALLOWED

Regards.Débutant
No. 2445111

>>2445106
Whole lotta text just to say you like uggos and fuck women who don’t.

ashley jankowskiLumineux
No. 2445112>>2445116

>>2445106
None of this is fandom discourse

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2445113

File (hide): 1742013126511.gif (6.43 MB, 422x498, IMG_3169.gif)

>>2445106
post more fandom funnies

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2445116>>2445117

>>2445112
It is though. Gachaslop ruined modern fandom even more.

novemberDébutant
No. 2445117>>2445121

>>2445116
You arent talking about any particular fandom discourse you're having a hysterical meltdown about gacha as a concept itself and infighting with that anon
>inb4 i'm not that anon
Ok, she*

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2445121

>>2445117
Yeah you're right.

WhiteGlovianDébutant
No. 2445141>>2445149>>2445155>>2445388>>2445428>>2445511

File (hide): 1742014823267.jpg (264.1 KB, 2048x676, 3585258972682.JPG)

If you husbandofag one of these, you are disqualified from speaking on yumejos.

BlowjobsAreForPigsLumineux
No. 2445149>>2445152

>>2445141
Alastor was the 66th most popular character for yumes in Japan last year

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2445152>>2445160

>>2445149
Proving my point

NullSans Pareil
No. 2445155

File (hide): 1742015616378.gif (654.72 KB, 300x436, 7aed33ad9e943e3ee5199f37702533…)

>>2445141
>shes still going
yeah i won(bait)

Astarion_is_walledLumineux
No. 2445160>>2445165>>2445166>>2445168>>2445512>>2445519

>>2445152
I'm not listening to whatever a filthy gaijin "yume" has to say on the matter. Japanese yumes are the original yumes.(infight bait)

sageLumineux
No. 2445163>>2445190>>2445375

File (hide): 1742015914334.jpg (888.07 KB, 660x920, RikaParadoxRift258.jpg)

the only objectively correct character to yume is her btw

Astarion_is_walledLumineux
No. 2445165

>>2445160
>"filthy gaijin"
okay burgerfag pack it up

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2445166

>>2445160
desu~ nonna-chan, do you happen to be from the mythical land we know as nippon? omaigah, i am so lucky i get to interact with a superior lifeform!! please inject me with all your kawaii sugoiness, after all i am only a mere mortal

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2445168

File (hide): 1742016169112.jpg (54.57 KB, 600x800, kensama.jpg)


kakaLumineux
No. 2445174

Aint no way its not a troll. Her husbando being the Onceler, crappy bland character from a children's movie that bastardized a beloved book to sell hapoy meal toys and plushies HAS to be baiting.

kys bishitsDébutant
No. 2445190


Anonymous GeneLumineux
No. 2445197

>>2443511
Top left's meme template is retarded. I guarantee you if women left it at the guys are hot, moids would be doing mental gymnastics about their games to prove they "aren't shallow whores unlike women" or whatever.

landmine-himeDébutant
No. 2445273

>>2444757
>>2444797

you are based and you give me hope. i hope he comes home for you always nona

sageDébutant
No. 2445375

>>2445163
No matter how male a woman appears, the moment the clothes are off I'm leaving. I'm not gay enough for this shit or gay period.

Anonymous GeneLumineux
No. 2445388>>2445390>>2445468>>2445478

>>2445141
I always thought Komaeda didn’t truly count since he’s meant to be attractive in universe unlike the others.
Also he’s gay so I don’t get why one would husbando him.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWSans Pareil
No. 2445390>>2445458

>>2445388
Was there any instance of him being gay besides not being into girls?

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWDébutant
No. 2445428

File (hide): 1742042622528.jpg (84.5 KB, 850x683, __the_once_ler_the_lorax_drawn…)

>>2445141
I husbando'd the Onceler real hard back in 2012. what're you gonna do about it

weegeewifeDébutant
No. 2445458>>2445478>>2445535>>2446710

File (hide): 1742046289342.png (786.82 KB, 960x544, 1000011043.png)

>>2445390
He literally says he loves Hajime in the game and drama CD multiple times and calls their hotel a love nest

Depressed_In_BucharestSans Pareil
No. 2445468>>2445485>>2445490>>2446748

>>2445388
>Also he’s gay so I don’t get why one would husbando him.
why would that stop anyone from husbandoing a cartoon

pooty pooty tang tangMerveilleux
No. 2445478>>2445485>>2445499

>>2445388
>>2445458
Why should any woman respect a male fictional character's sexuality? Besides, he could be bisexual.

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2445479

>>2445017
I just said that i didnt care who your husbando is, as long as he isnt turbo ugly and obnxious like the thread pic, even then i wouldnt care
>>2444916
>She sounds more calm and reasonable than the sperg who posted the generic gacha bishie.
Finally! thank you! not a single person itt thinks you cant like enstars or gacha husbandos. I was talking about the companies that paywall them

>>2444887
Ive made only 2 posts in this entire thread, and i have never been to the previous one. Trying to spot anons is cringe(derailing)

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2445485

>>2445468
>>2445478
Based nonnies. Let your heart out nonnies, life is too short to care about fictional character's sexualities and whatnot

NullLumineux
No. 2445490>>2445502

can we post more obnixously bad "erm hes actually lesbian" husbandos and not ones that millions of people yume over for controversialness?
>>2445468
Yeah and esspically since thats mostly a headcannon from fujoshis

imSkirbeseSans Pareil
No. 2445499

>>2445478
I dont care if women yume him, I'm just responding to the anon asking if there was any evidence of him being gay. He's a fictional character lmao

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWLumineux
No. 2445502

>>2445490
Baiting anons is the only way these losers get their daily dose of attention

Regards.Sans Pareil
No. 2445511>>2445513

>>2445141
My ojisan husbando from a semi obscure JRPG mogs all of these homos(infight/bait)

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWSans Pareil
No. 2445512

>>2445160
American hands typed this.

trollcowDébutant
No. 2445513

File (hide): 1742048588611.jpg (72.04 KB, 960x550, 43b756fba8ab99cfaf6e25f8142194…)

>>2445511
If this is who I think it is…

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2445515>>2445713

File (hide): 1742048652215.png (1.5 MB, 720x916, IMG_0786.png)

Can we pack up the yumeposting now and get back to posting fandom milk, please

Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2445519

>>2445160
You sound fat

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2445535>>2445538>>2445554>>2445705>>2446279

File (hide): 1742050144498.png (15.11 KB, 761x185, firefox_vuEvYOCNWB.png)

Nonnies complain about ZZZ meanwhile scrotes be like pic related. Similar how for most games that have male and female characters if you go to 4chan you will see scrotes crying that the game is "too homo" and "not coomer enough".

>>2445458
I think it's really weird to defend a fictional man's homosexuality when 90% of his fans are women. It keeps happening over and over with non-masculine-uggo characters women love and it feels like bitterness towards women enjoying things. Some people are fujos and want the guy to be gay to fulfill their ship fantasies, rather than seeing the fictional character as just a toy to use for fantasies. Maybe it's also mixed with some weird western moralfagging about not being a voyeuristic fujo but a heccin wholesome MLM supporter.

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2445538>>2445540>>2445545

>>2445535
I'm confused, ZZZ has like 4 actual bishies. Does their existence scare moids that much?

sageDébutant
No. 2445540>>2445551

>>2445538
>Does their existence scare moids that much?
NTA but yes. Men are insecure, its why their self inserts are always boring and stale like kirito.

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2445545>>2445551

>>2445538
It's from reddit, they proudly call themselves gooners and make anime porn their whole personality. They frequently cry about LADS being a gooner game and only want porn in their games lol

Similarly, the Granblue Fantasy general on 4chan is legitimately schizoid and having frequent meltdowns that a girl flirted with another guy or girl and call all characters homo or cuckbait, it's insane.

WhiteGlovianLumineux
No. 2445551>>2445566

>>2445540
>>2445545
This is baffling to me because they can just go play those games with 0 bishies if the mere sight of an attractive man makes them feel inadequate. They exist in abundance. Its not like female-orientated games where you have to pick between 4 half-decent options, typically auto battler/card game slop and the rest are trash that might EoS next week

BlowjobsAreForPigsMerveilleux
No. 2445554>>2445561>>2445562

File (hide): 1742051322578.jpg (126.78 KB, 1064x1200, 1000011045.jpg)

>>2445535
>was there any instance of this character being gay?
>yes he says he loves the male protagonist in canon among other things
>wow it's really weird you are defending a fictional character's sexuality maybe you are a bitter moralfag fujo seething over women liking him or something

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2445561

>>2445554
>he loves the male protagonist in canon among other things
NTA but he confesses in his FTEs (Which are semi-canon), and even then it's his hope-loving bullshit. (I love the hope inside of you)
>Drama CDs
They aren't canon as with FTEs, just secondary side material like with character songs etc.
The only true "canon" koma/hi we had that was part of the main storyline was the DR3 special but again nothing important was said.

trollcowDébutant
No. 2445562

>>2445554
Anon, it's called going on a tangent

BlowjobsAreForPigsMerveilleux
No. 2445566

>>2445551
They play them because they're good and popular games, but then cry if it's not a coomer "galge". On the other hand if it's an all female cast they cry that it's yuribait unless there's a male main character that constantly has sex with every woman. It's so stupid how they're that close to getting that those loli porn games are slop BECAUSE they only pander to moids.

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2445658

>>2442931
so this is how he got doxxed?

Submas Goes In The Image FieldSans Pareil
No. 2445705>>2445766>>2445850>>2447346

File (hide): 1742058049517.jpg (446.78 KB, 1080x1092, Screenshot_20250315_175931_Fir…)

>>2445535
Holy cancer thread

fujo-to-tif-piplineMerveilleux
No. 2445713

>>2445515
beautiful

Kirby_is_GNCSans Pareil
No. 2445728>>2445730>>2445741>>2445787>>2445955>>2446142

File (hide): 1742059288395.jpg (195.44 KB, 1080x861, IMG_20250315_111820.jpg)

>Nonnas wouldn't be arguing if they had ascended to the superior realm of yume'ing their own OCs

Depressed_In_BucharestDébutant
No. 2445730>>2445732

>>2445728
Like Fanny?

Anonymous GeneLumineux
No. 2445732>>2445756

>>2445730
I mean, that was still a step up from yumeing her own dad.

imSkirbeseSans Pareil
No. 2445741

>>2445728
Nonna, that's a bit strong? You know some can't help themselves in their depravity?

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2445756

>>2445732
>still a step up from yumeing her own dad.
ahem her dead* dad fucking the self insert who looks like her older sister.

novemberLumineux
No. 2445766>>2445768>>2445769>>2445777>>2445785>>2445822

File (hide): 1742060807517.png (255.51 KB, 601x378, 3235245254.png)

>sexualizing a 14 year old the game makes a great deal not to sexualize
>he/they in bio
I hope all LGBT faggots besides lesbians perish off the face of the earth for being disgusting degenerate coomers. I don't wanna alog too hard but picrel deserves to get raped to death
>>2445705
If 40% of Nikke players in Korea are women if i'm reading that right, that's fucking bleak. Hope the based Korean feminists bully them outta it.

landmine-himeMerveilleux
No. 2445768>>2445771

>>2445766
>14 year old
Nitpick which doesn't actually negate your point in any way, but she's 19 in Madness Returns

Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2445769>>2445770>>2445771

>>2445766
how do you people even find these tweets by literal whos with 5 likes

Submas Goes In The Image FieldMerveilleux
No. 2445770

>>2445769
They run in those circles lmao

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2445771

>>2445768
Didn't know that. I just hate fagmoids and this scrote likes Rance so I wanted an excuse to shit on him.
>>2445769
He has 1k followers or so and his tweets came up on my timeline

weenusDébutant
No. 2445777>>2445780>>2445782

>>2445766
>I hope all LGBT faggots besides lesbians perish off the face of the earth for being disgusting degenerate coomers.
So bi women are evil then? Good to know.

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2445780>>2445782>>2445783

>>2445777
Bi women are turbopickme degenerates so yeah. I've never met a bi woman with a normal, healthy sexuality that isn't enshrouded by degeneracy.(bait)

elfearsLumineux
No. 2445782

>>2445777
>>2445780
For the love of christ do NOT start this again.

kys bishitsSans Pareil
No. 2445783

>>2445780
>fandom discourse

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2445785>>2445799

File (hide): 1742061304676.jpg (888.42 KB, 2347x4096, GjmqZodawAAnw7X.jpg)

>>2445766
>If 40% of Nikke players in Korea are women if i'm reading that right, that's fucking bleak. Hope the based Korean feminists bully them outta it.
Big doubt. You can tell when a game has a big female fanbase by the type of fanart it gets and the accounts that interact with it on twitter, a lot of them have more women on livestreams too. Nikke just shoehorns in one motion cap actress and it's a sausagefest otherwise.

weenusDébutant
No. 2445787>>2445790>>2445793>>2445993>>2445998>>2446000>>2446002>>2446073

>>2445728
based, think about it
>you can make your own merch and you are the only person in the world who owns it
>you dont have to complain about people “stealing” your husbando
>no paywall and no waiting for extra content to come out
>no fandom dramas like “ermmm you cant actually like this character because i headcannon him as gay”
what are the cons? seriously why doesnt everyone just do this?

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2445789>>2445802>>2445812>>2445813

File (hide): 1742061405955.jpeg (750.96 KB, 1284x1532, IMG_4045.jpeg)

r/AO3 having a normal one after being met with an author who doesn’t want incest shippers to interact with them. Pro shippers are always about anti harassment while people in the comments were going on and on about bothering OP with the incest ship. Also, admittedly yes the OOP was being a little strange.

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2445790>>2445793

>>2445787
Because they need clout on the internet

CerbminOwner
No. 2445793>>2445795>>2445798

>>2445787
>>2445790
Being in love with your own OC is like huffing your own farts. You can change your OC at will and control his fate, it becomes simply being in love with your own taste.

SoapPropagandistSans Pareil
No. 2445795>>2445806

>>2445793
Half of yumes do this anyway with character bastardization

rottenbeardSans Pareil
No. 2445798>>2445806

>>2445793
I don’t really see it being any different than creating fantasies about an already existing character in your head IMO. atleast you wouldnt have people bitching in your ear about it not being cannon enough or “_ wouldnt do this nooooo…”

CerbminOwner
No. 2445799>>2445803>>2445825>>2445864

File (hide): 1742061747170.jpg (92.08 KB, 850x850, totally not marine.jpg)

>>2445785
This. Nikke is like azur lane in that it has 0 appealing or actually well designed characters. Absolutely all of them are slop. I can see a woman playing Blue Archive because some characters have cute designs and pastel colors, but literally all nikke characters are weird contorted sausaged with massive titties slapped onto them. They are so cheap and lazy they even steal famous vtuber designs to make their ugly rip off characters. I like some pretty crappy gacha designs and i legit cant find a single Nikke design thats actually appealing in any way. I fucking hate Azur Lane and Nikke.

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2445802

>>2445789
DNIs and asking people to not give kudos or interact on a fanfic site for shipping something you don't like is pretty cringe ngl

novemberDébutant
No. 2445803>>2445841

>>2445799
>pic rel
How they not getting sued for this?

imSkirbeseSans Pareil
No. 2445806

>>2445795
>>2445798
Then you are going from the angle that yumes love characters because they need something to love, it's the opposite- people find characters who they end up falling in love with. So to create your own OC just for the sake to have something to love is kind of like buying a sex doll.

Yeah some people are autistic and cringe about it, but just explaining why it doesn't work with your own character.

NullDébutant
No. 2445812

File (hide): 1742062076518.jpg (18.96 KB, 374x149, 5fgxbpVzTaIB3ETw3KMYfTQ-M8BBBi…)

>>2445789
I know it's genshit without looking up. This battle of retards is eternal.

SoapPropagandistLumineux
No. 2445813>>2445832>>2446743

>>2445789
Trying to control who interacts with your shit like this is always cringe. Just turn off comments if you can’t stand the thought of certain people looking at your work.

trad4himDébutant
No. 2445822

>>2445766
tbf she is a adult in that game. Still doesn't change how creepy it is since most people don't even know she is adult and the pedos get off thinking they are sexualising a child.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2445825>>2445831

File (hide): 1742062766664.webp (Spoiler Image,268.19 KB, 977x1048, Cinderella_2_FB.webp)

>>2445799
This is the most retarded design imo

fuck_fujoshitsMerveilleux
No. 2445831>>2445839>>2445845

File (hide): 1742063028243.jpg (Spoiler Image,111.35 KB, 1139x720, c17ef7eaea9a5e25e509c44ed2ba66…)

>>2445825
You could spam the entire nikke repertoire onto the bad design thread. The only good thing about Nikke is the live2D. But its probably only because i work with Live2D myself and i know making fluid animation with it is incredibly time consuming and annoying.

Ashton_WintersDébutant
No. 2445832


weegeewifeLumineux
No. 2445839>>2445842

>>2445831
irc nikke also has a child character as well i mean imagine a gooner korean moid gachashit having pedoshit who woulda thought, this shit is as feminist is as moids drawing naked women with guns which means its not and dont forget them firing female artists too just because they comment on the rape culture in korea

Astarion_is_walledSans Pareil
No. 2445841


bratgasmMerveilleux
No. 2445842>>2445856

>>2445839
Moids can have a loli spreading her legs and showing her underwear at the camera (Brown Dust 2 Refi or Rafi whatever) and will claim women are just as bad kek

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2445845

File (hide): 1742063546489.jpeg (541.13 KB, 1179x1335, IMG_3541.jpeg)

>>2445831
I keep getting nikke confused with the actually good dress up game infinity nikki, and i almost downloaded it from an ad but then i realized it was just another generic souless coomer waifu slop. I also equally hate the unwashed scrotes who shamelessly like the game and pretend it isnt paywalled shit because of “big booba animu girl” I hate scroteslop so much

novemberDébutant
No. 2445850>>2445855>>2445859

>>2445705
>40% of players are women
Why do scrotes always do this with their worthless media? Pretend like a lot of women actually like it or that the ACTUAL target audience is women, I see them say it about their romcom animeslop too. Do they want our approval so bad or something

bratgasmMerveilleux
No. 2445855

>>2445850
It's similar to the Madonna-whore complex, they want approval from women while also considering them lesser and hating them.

Kirby_is_GNCLumineux
No. 2445856>>2445863>>2445866>>2445887>>2445890>>2446171>>2446659>>2447429

File (hide): 1742063941852.mp4 (Spoiler Image,3.94 MB, 1440x1080, aeb3358429bbdcda40d34cc966ec3e…) [play once] [loop]

>>2445842
>Brown Dust 2
literally never heard of this but it looks like straight up porn how is this allowed on the playstore

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2445859

>>2445850
They are that desperate to offload their degeneracy onto women. They act like they are based for liking coomslop, but deep down they know they are scum. That’s why they want to pass it on to women so badly.

WhiteGlovianMerveilleux
No. 2445863

>>2445856
The worst thing is that it's rated teen or 12+, same as Azur Lane. No one is reporting that shit and google doesn't care.

Astarion_is_walledMerveilleux
No. 2445864

>>2445799
Wtf I literally thought this was Marine. Imagine stooping so low to copy a vtumor design kek

Vegan_PrincessSans Pareil
No. 2445866

>>2445856
>Moids are playing shit like this then get BTFO over a period tracker

Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2445867>>2445868>>2445872>>2445874>>2445876>>2445877>>2445879>>2445881>>2445882>>2445887>>2445896>>2446237>>2446241

File (hide): 1742064144644.mp4 (Spoiler Image,1.53 MB, 1280x720, 611477934ffb3a9c67500764fb9f6e…) [play once] [loop]

I am laughing so hard at these, men's sexuality is so retarded.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2445868

>>2445867
The pussy print is crazy

elfearsDébutant
No. 2445872

>>2445867
Drawing pussy lips so fat you start giving your waifus a bulge. Men are so gay.

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2445874

>>2445867
I laughed at the pussy stamp

its givingSans Pareil
No. 2445876>>2445888>>2445892

>>2445867
What are you searching up to find these? They're funny as fuck. This makes Nikke look chaste

landmine-himeMerveilleux
No. 2445877

>>2445867
The ass print and weird way she just lifts up and scoots away like she's made of jello.

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2445879

>>2445867
What type of woman do you have to be to voice this shit… also the pussy print implies she has a deflated ass kek

weenusSans Pareil
No. 2445881>>2445883>>2445884>>2445885

File (hide): 1742064691791.png (Spoiler Image,763.6 KB, 751x772, firefox_T94smzgax0.png)

>>2445867
Apparently this is cosplay LMFAO

Astarion_is_walledDébutant
No. 2445882

>>2445867
Plottwist: Its actually scrotum imprints to peddle to futa coomers, adding a second layer of degeneracy

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2445883

>>2445881
>Five billion updoots take my gold you sir just won the internet!

elfearsDébutant
No. 2445884

>>2445881
How do these women live with themselves after doing this?

crabbySans Pareil
No. 2445885

>>2445881
She looks like a downie and that poor blur too kekkkkkk

weegeewifeMerveilleux
No. 2445887

>>2445867
>>2445856
why do they act like mentally challenged?

CerbminOwner
No. 2445888>>2445898

File (hide): 1742064932696.png (Spoiler Image,2.47 MB, 1140x1195, g6rexlx45moe1.png)

>>2445876
Idk about anon but I looked at their reddit and somebody made a "tier list" of these
Sadly there's one cute blonde slut guy who was there at game launch but devs abandoned guys and went full coomer.

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2445890

File (hide): 1742064963692.webp (160.56 KB, 1400x1050, browndust2-in-agf-2024-agf-202…)

>>2445856
Imagine the smell. Seeing all of these moids gathered here makes me want to say something that'd get redtexted for alogging.

NullSans Pareil
No. 2445892>>2445902>>2445911>>2447528

>>2445876
I am checking the ones uploaded on gelbooru. But there are more on youtube. Most of them are boring coomshit but the ones that try to out-coom the others are honestly hilarious.

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2445896>>2445899

File (hide): 1742065081851.jpeg (243.92 KB, 1000x523, IMG_3544.jpeg)

>>2445867
Wait, This game actually has the full scroteslop package kek
>Generic male self insert protagonist
>Loli character whos actually 208 years old (no joke, devs actually confirmed)
>Female battle characters that have impractical designs to show off skin
But when one yume game with barely any sexual scenes or innuendos shows up, all hell breaks loose

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2445898>>2445901>>2445912

>>2445888
The male ones are so lame, not sexualized at all.

ex-farmhandMerveilleux
No. 2445899

>>2445896
It even copies the Bravely Default font poorly and the whole final fantasy beast behind title font thing kek

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2445901

>>2445898
I'm pretty sure these arent intended for women but for the isekaishit incel moids to self insert into

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2445902>>2445915

>>2445892
How is this shit allowed on youtube its so normalized I keep getting gachaslop ads for shit like this and i keep reporting them for nudity and they still show up Im alogging so hard right now i fucking hate scrotes i swear to god

NullLumineux
No. 2445911

File (hide): 1742065810662.jpg (62.47 KB, 636x464, 1739480468312.jpg)

>>2445892
>the coomer miku
THANK KAMI SAMA NIPPON MOIDS ARE DYING OUT MAKE IT GO FASTER

CerbminOwner
No. 2445912>>2445913>>2445916

>>2445898
>tfw there will never be a husbando ball sweat imprint gachaslop

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2445913

>>2445912
Not if I have anything to say about it. Nonnas get coding now!

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2445915>>2445917

>>2445902
It's heartbreaking. Fuck I remember a JRPG I used to really like until it became coomslop sold itself out to a coomer gacha game. Sad stuff, an entire generation of men is somehow going to see women as even more of sex objects now

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2445916>>2445934>>2446030

>>2445912
I honestly wish we had a strong doujin community like in Japan. I am working on a game but between uni and other chores i barely have time to develop it anymore.

crabbyLumineux
No. 2445917>>2445927

>>2445915
What series? It's heartbreaking to see how the Atelier series went down this path as well.

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2445927>>2445953>>2445972

File (hide): 1742066282847.jpg (Spoiler Image,168.95 KB, 850x478, breuhhh.jpg)

>>2445917
Trails/Kiseki. It used to be a cute comfy JRPG with great emotional storytelling but after the first 3 games it slowly sold itself out to coomershit. Now the games are selling like shit and they're outcooming themselves every game to make it sell better including collabs like this. For the collab, they picked a character that got sold to sexual slavery and is a huge part of her backstory to use as gooner bait (not picrel). She's not as heavily sexualized as the other two characters picked but it's so fucking disgusting and distasteful to the point where If I expressed my disgust I'd get redtexted for a logging.
>It's heartbreaking to see how the Atelier series went down this path as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the games always been like that? I know in an earlier entry there was a loli-like character who got tentacled raped, or are you talking about earlier? From what I've seen as someone who hasn't played the games yet, they had a very shoujo feel to them and now it's just trash.

Depressed_In_BucharestMerveilleux
No. 2445934>>2445949>>2445953>>2446030

>>2445916
>I honestly wish we had a strong doujin community like in Japan.
It's honestly pretty depressing. Not to go "thing, Japan," but Japan has a much smaller population than the US, much less the rest of the English speaking world, and they still manage to put out so many more high effort fanwork projects. I started drawing my own NSFW doujins of my OTP because I realized unless I did it, no one else would, and even joined a JP doujin anthology. I know Eastern fandom isn't perfect either, but the women over there have so much more autistic dedication to their passions, whereas so many western fans I know mainly just care about getting RTs on their FOTM fanart at the end of the day.

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2445949>>2446757>>2446888

>>2445934
I hate how in the west fandom is mostly seen as a way to get clout and sell cheap soulless merch. I rarely see genuinely interesting merch, its always FOTM slop. Patreon is another thing that doomed western fandom.

sageLumineux
No. 2445953>>2446757

>>2445927
I'm not sure, I only played a couple of the older games on the DS so I'm no expert on the series but I never saw any coomshit when I did. Wouldn't be surprised though. Comparing the ones I played from like 2007 to what's being released now is like night and day though.
>>2445934
There's an awful paradox in the west where people who have good taste don't typically consume fanmade content besides well-made fully rendered fanart and the people who do engage in fanmade content are more likely to be straight-up grifters or have shit taste and drive out people who don't pander with political activism. Unrelated but it's also way cheaper to get doujins printed in Japan than it is here. I wish we could have more affordable printing in the West and be able to do something like Comiket.

BlowjobsAreForPigsLumineux
No. 2445955>>2446638

>>2445728
Whenever I write my own original male characters I think of them as my creation so I can't romance them myself, I always end up pairing them up with other female characters I write.

WhiteGlovianMerveilleux
No. 2445972

>>2445927
Games that resort to coombait to “sell” and then end up continuing the downtrend in sales… do the retarded men behind this decision ever connect the dots to realize that coom wont save it?

Skelly-ArmDébutant
No. 2445993>>2446199

File (hide): 1742067521689.png (26.34 KB, 1353x176, IDGAF.PNG)

>>2445787
>“ermmm you cant actually like this character because i headcannon him as gay”

ashley jankowskiSans Pareil
No. 2445998

>>2445787
I guess some people aren't creative enough or aren't satisfied with their level of drawing/writing/imagination. I recently began husbando-ing my own OC and it's going pretty well so far.

Mutiliated MenLumineux
No. 2446000>>2446073

File (hide): 1742067752805.jpg (353.33 KB, 900x767, head-exploding-abstract-bill-h…)

>>2445787
I've had the same OCbando since middle school, I'm the final boss.

weenusSans Pareil
No. 2446002>>2446007

>>2445787
As a yume myself it's cause idk I don't choose the characters I fall in love with, it just happens. I can't force myself to fall in love with an OC just cause it'd be more convenient.

Astarion_is_walledMerveilleux
No. 2446007

>>2446002
I think most people made the OC first for a different reason and then fell in love later. That can be really hard though depending on the person.

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2446030>>2446050

>>2445916
>>2445934
Too many women have lives, so the percentage that looks up coomer male content is small and the percentage of artists in that small too.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2446050>>2446757

>>2446030
I don't think that's really the issue, I work full time and go out with friends (I'm the anon who posted about making doujins, I've made like 80 pages of comics about my OTP so far) and a lot of my JP mutuals post about going to work and school as well, when Japan is notorious for having poor work-life balance. I think it's simply a flat out lack of passion or perhaps a fear of sincerity.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2446073

>>2445787
At least one con: your autism levels may be low on an individual basis, but never 0, and so you are always at risk of ending up like partycoffin.
>>2446000
Fuck yeah, I love to see a nona winning!

straight-with-extra-stepsLumineux
No. 2446142>>2446177

>>2445728
based. i mean imo thats what yumes are doing anyways, most of their husbandos dont act very in character when it comes to their relationship

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2446171

>>2445856
You know I don't even care that scrotes get games like this, it's just fucking pathetic that tame stuff in LADS sets them off when they have content like this in abundance.

LaurDébutant
No. 2446177

>>2446142
Not like fujos write character in-canon either(fujo sperging)

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2446192>>2446209>>2446217>>2446220>>2446231>>2446268>>2446270>>2446292

I never got what the "your husbando is gay, checkmate" argument was supposed to mean. I only ever read it coming from gendies who wanted to be progressive while being misogynistic towards random women in their fandom. Is a male character's fake sexuality supposed to matter enough to anyone who's not a spicy straight or a salty shipper?

keksSans Pareil
No. 2446199

>>2445993
based. stacy behavior

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2446209

>>2446192
People feel like their take needs to be the most canon and valid one, so they love undermining other fans. It's the same as people who call others problematic for liking something and wanting to cancel them.

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2446217>>2446220

>>2446192
>wanted to be progressive while being misogynistic
It's pretty much this, some people get touchy like it's an insult to turn a fictional guy straight. In the past, I felt weird about yumeing over guys from BL (even though some of them are technically bi in canon) for a while because of it.

its givingDébutant
No. 2446220>>2446232>>2446263

>>2446192
>>2446217
Personally, I don't but my brain is retarded so any man's good regardless of sexuality.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2446231

>>2446192
Yumes and fujos whose main interest isn't a BL/otome property are on the same level of delusion, I don't understand what the fuck they even argue over.

NullDébutant
No. 2446232

>>2446220
That isnt retardation that's enlightenment

ex-farmhandMerveilleux
No. 2446237

>>2445867
THE PUSSY PRINT KEKAROO I'm actually laughing so hard, they circled right back around to giving her a bulge

fuck_fujoshitsSans Pareil
No. 2446241

>>2445867
but you can't have your period tracker no ma'am that's too far. why are females such gooners oh my gosh?

weenusLumineux
No. 2446263

>>2446220
You're based

sageDébutant
No. 2446268

>>2446192
Next time someone does this to you, just remind them that actually, pansexuality is real and valid so it's regressive to assume he's "just" gay, and also, why are they treating you like a woman just because you are one (fucking bigots)? What if you're a stunning he/they keeping it quiet for safety reasons? Turn it around on them and make them scared to question it kek

elfearsMerveilleux
No. 2446270

>>2446192
fujos in the arcane fandom really trying to force riot to make their stank ass ship canon but here i am yumeing over viktor because i genuinely do not care what the creators do. he's fictional and he can do whatever the fuck i want him to do.(fujosperging)

kys bishitsSans Pareil
No. 2446272>>2446296>>2446318

File (hide): 1742079773800.jpg (511.15 KB, 1659x2048, 7315842585158.JPG)

If yumes are allowed to turn fujobait straight, then fujos are allowed to turn yumebait gay.(fujosperg outside containment)

ex-farmhandSans Pareil
No. 2446279>>2446775

>>2445535
Your screenshot reminded me that sometimes I look at r/WuWaHusbandos to see how they're coping and I dont know if I feel sorry for them or not. They're smart enough to realize their game devs absolutely hate them but then they always end their sentences with "I hope they can finally give us more males… I hope they release at least 3 males per year instead of 1… I hope… I hope…" like just drop it. I cant imagine logging into a game every day that makes me frustrated.
I give genshintards the benefit of the doubt because they were hoodwinked for the first few years but wuwa never once hid the type of loser scrotes it wants as an audience. I remember when I was looking there just before Brant released they were saying stuff like "Lets spend a lot of money on his banner to prove males sell!" as if they wont just use that money to make more waifus, falling right into the trap.

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2446286>>2446347>>2446651

File (hide): 1742080232541.gif (1.46 MB, 200x200, 1000033712.gif)

This entire debacle can easily be solved with one thing: multiple universes exist. Inside each mind is a world, and in that world, there's a wildly different interpretation of the same character. In some of these worlds he gets raped up the ass and in other worlds his buttocks are solely for a yume's grabbing pleasure, and that's okay.
>But nona, that's not canon! Only one of each character exists in their official source material!
That's what they want you to believe. Do most canon characters not have merch? Do they not pose in official art wearing strange clothes, in strange scenarios, in some cases even after they're canonically DEAD? Do you suppose every plushy or figurine that gets released is the same object which just rotates through the houses super fast? No! The magic of 2D love/lust is that it can take any form you want!

keksMerveilleux
No. 2446292

>>2446192
>who wanted to be progressive while being misogynistic towards random women
Whenever someone points that out to them they always jump with the "AM QUEER!!!" line kek.

trad4himLumineux
No. 2446296

>>2446272
Allowed to? Fujos have been making gay stuff regardless if the men are yumebait or not.(replying to bait)

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2446318

>>2446272
My issue with this is that I can never decide who bottoms kek(replying to bait)

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2446347

>>2446286
Unrelated but wheres that cute cow devil from?

fujo-to-tif-piplineSans Pareil
No. 2446610

>>2444122
>tfw no bl with a male cat and male dog

all whores will dieMerveilleux
No. 2446638

>>2445955
you will never romance the male character yourself imfao.

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2446651

>>2446286
The merch and strange official art only exist because of the impact of the original story though. You want to see those things because of that.
So people can make up their own versions like all those spin-offs of all those different religions, but there remains the fact that they were inspired by that one story. They have no narrative to draw from to support their… impressions.

kakaMerveilleux
No. 2446659>>2446677

>>2445856
is her looking in distress crucial for the coom?
>brown dust
that is such an ugly name for your game

weenusSans Pareil
No. 2446677

>>2446659
you need to remember that men are defective and need the opposite sex to suffer to get off

ex-farmhandSans Pareil
No. 2446710

File (hide): 1742095937185.png (646.99 KB, 1000x1000, elsie_komaeda.png)

>>2445458
Nonnie, whenever you doubt my love for you, it fills me with despair…

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2446736

File (hide): 1742098186564.jpg (59.76 KB, 624x567, get on her level modern yumes.…)

>>2444783
>He's not fucking real!
To the yumes (though that wasn't even a term when these were posted) he is.

novemberMerveilleux
No. 2446743

>>2445813
Agreed, I always roll my eyes when I see people apply tumblr/twitter shit like this to other sites.
No one on MFC pulled this shit till twittertards started using it.

LaurDébutant
No. 2446748>>2448219

File (hide): 1742099026724.png (1.28 MB, 1280x856, homodachis.png)

>>2445468
I just don't get why you'd purposefully chose a gay character, like damn girl do you wanna cuck yourself or something?
Obviously you're open to do whatever you please but I don't get why you'd chose someone who's super faggy (and batshit insane) like Komaeda.(fujosperging)

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2446757

>>2445953
>>2445949
Speaking as an American, we have a zine culture that needs to be taken more advantage of by fandoms that isn't yet another horribly mismanaged fanart compilation campaign on Kickstarter. There's something to be said about hand-assembling a comic you made about your favorite ship and sneaking in some surprises for the <10 buyers who share your silly fixation.

>>2446050
I think a lot of it is due to how some things are set up, too. Long driving commutes, algorithmed entertainment, no chance to be bored turns people who would otherwise create into consumers.

pooty pooty tang tangMerveilleux
No. 2446775>>2446823>>2446863

File (hide): 1742103004583.webm (3.49 MB, 1408x1404, 1740226826820.webm) [play once] [loop]

>>2446279
I do not even play WuWa, but I will admit Brant mogs most of the male characters from Hoyoslop. Still, it is beyond me why any fujo or yume would willingly play that game. I only play HSR, and even there, the female characters sometimes make me want to uninstall. WuWa takes it to a whole other level, fem!Rover’s design is enough reason to skip the game entirely. You seriously have to hate yourself to be giving money to that game.

landmine-himeDébutant
No. 2446823>>2446856

>>2446775
>brant mogs hoyoslop
Anon please, he looks silly and Lighter easily mogs him

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2446856

>>2446823
I guess I just have a personal bias for 2D men with vibrant color palettes, like Childe, so Lighter feels a bit too generic for me.

trad4himLumineux
No. 2446863

>>2446775
>brant
now who was in charge of names

WhiteGlovianLumineux
No. 2446888

>>2445949
>get clout and sell cheap soulless merch
The American way.

keksDébutant
No. 2446933>>2456501>>2456992>>2457244

File (hide): 1742122784191.png (480.27 KB, 746x912, q4fdndOpqO.png)

About the doujin culture:
I don't think it's much different in Japan. 90% of it is scrotes making soulless porn at comiket to rake in sales. The people you praise for making indie work of love are usually just left standing, just like the creators in the west that don't pander.

ashley jankowskiLumineux
No. 2446956>>2446981>>2446984>>2446987>>2447026>>2447029>>2447038>>2447053>>2447300

File (hide): 1742126379269.png (572.76 KB, 582x857, chrome_tR4t3tmqqx.png)

Scrotes pretending they're the most vanilla of the bunch will never not be hilarious. Retard even picked the faceless hentai protagonist to "prove" his point, which is supposed to be a stand-in for the moid when they want to fuck a girl.

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2446957

>>2444757
Fuck gachaslop, but based

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2446981>>2446984>>2447011

>>2446956
It's interesting, men are objectively less consumed by moral guilt or any type of regret regarding their gross tendencies and addictions: they love sex, violence and violent sex, we all know this, so why make these memes? Who are they trying to convince, themselves? They know it's bullshit, so, who is this for? I suppose they're just trying to make women feel bad

CerbminOwner
No. 2446984

>>2446956
>>2446981
It's part of the kink, they want a pure looking girl who is "secretly a whore" into the fetishes they actually like.

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2446987>>2447014

>>2446956
Judging by the way a period tracker in LADS made them lose their shit, I guess they needed to depict women as all degenerates.

But let's be real, how many pickme/groomed female artists are drawing degenerate shit because they genuinely like it and not because they were psyop'd in it or wanted to make coombucks?

ashley jankowskiSans Pareil
No. 2447011

>>2446981
Men don't feel guilty over being whores because of they're own personal moralities, they just don't like how women react when they learn they're whores and avoid them. These cope by repeating "well see? you're no better than me!" ad showing misinterpreted studies about what average women like. It's less "I'm a disgusting pervert and should be ashamed" and more "I'm embarrassed I got caught".

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2447014>>2447018>>2447063>>2448262

File (hide): 1742133005151.jpg (Spoiler Image,420.5 KB, 2048x1480, tumblr_c0c517fa4ec7d2125a8af6a…)

>>2446987
This is just my experience, but I've personally ran into more female artists online that are into furry/monster/niche fetishes or weird trans art (like in the bad art thread) than those that draw big titty coomer art

Actually for an example I wanted to find this one artist who went by xiphos (billie), but she nuked her profiles

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2447018>>2447021>>2447025>>2447066

File (hide): 1742133415591.jpg (10.19 KB, 368x326, E3-zJcXVIAIMXT3.jpg)

>>2447014
wait why is this kinda…

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2447021

>>2447018
Nonna…

trollcowSans Pareil
No. 2447025

>>2447018
hold on i see the vision

crabbyLumineux
No. 2447026

>>2446956
there no way this isnt satire right??
are moids really this braindead?

landmine-himeSans Pareil
No. 2447029>>2447041>>2447050>>2447064>>2447068>>2447526

File (hide): 1742134523056.png (947 KB, 1305x786, 1740088507860.png)

>>2446956
oh, isn't it the same person who got mad at LADS?

novemberLumineux
No. 2447038

>>2446956
This meme is extra retarded because the art he is using from a female artist who only draws fluffy stuff and talks up how much she hates NTR

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2447041>>2447051>>2447060

File (hide): 1742135297548.png (221.14 KB, 360x360, 360 (3).png)

>>2447029
The cherry on top is his profile picture is from a loli rape game called Black Souls which is frequently compared to Rance. From his profile I get the impression he's a wannabe who wants to skinwalk 4chan users but is too much of a pussy to use the website himself kek

Regards.Débutant
No. 2447050

>>2447029
He needs male genital mutilation, for his sake.

Regards.Sans Pareil
No. 2447051

>>2447041
I thought it was Lain iwakura this whole time kek

crabbyLumineux
No. 2447053

>>2446956
I think they're trying to psyop women into normalizing their violent paraphilias.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2447060>>2447070>>2447095

>>2447041
The art and character designs in Black Souls are so fucking ugly, moids will jack it to anything.

fuck_fujoshitsSans Pareil
No. 2447063

>>2447014
Teratophilia isn't one of the fetishes listed on the meme, though. It lists moidslop like gangbangs, NTR and cervix penetration.

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2447064

>>2447029
oh what a fucking loser kek
male coomers should be gas chambered

fujo-to-tif-piplineLumineux
No. 2447066

>>2447018
Twitter-ass reaction image

Anonymous GeneLumineux
No. 2447068>>2447070>>2447077>>2447135

File (hide): 1742136387649.jpeg (760.48 KB, 1179x1233, IMG_3567.jpeg)

>>2447029
107k FOLLOWERS FOR THIS SHIT WHAT THE FUCK
hes also one of those male coomers with a female persona and pretend its not gay
all he does is retweet rehashed shit and be like: haha men smart women dum hur dur and his art fucking sucks you just have to take a gander at this account

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2447070>>2447080>>2447084>>2448184

File (hide): 1742136430349.jpg (16.86 KB, 320x180, mqdefault.jpg)

>>2447060
Imo it's cute in its own way but if I were a moid coomer I could not imagine getting off to it.
>>2447068
Like the rev says desu faggot? I hate those people so much, they're bound to troon out

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2447077>>2447086

>>2447068
you can easily farm followers on twitter by just posting unfunny coomer anime memes these days

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2447080>>2447095>>2447097>>2447464

File (hide): 1742136737525.jpg (Spoiler Image,173.78 KB, 640x960, 4e4b462187204.jpg)

>>2447070
This design is ok, kinda generic but it's inoffensive.
Picrel on the other hand is… special

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2447084

File (hide): 1742136862404.jpeg (Spoiler Image,1.33 MB, 1179x1880, IMG_3568.jpeg)

but really who is the target audience for this shit. im thinking its other male coomers who think hes a femboy but in reality hes a 30 year old balding man. the people who like his posts are scrotes who are like “haha i fuck trannies but im not gay” censored for buldge. i really dont know who interacts with this shit, its webtoon tier art, scrotes are so absolutely braindead a single line signalifying a bulge sends them into a frenzy i hate them so fucking much

>>2447070
hes definitely on the troon pipeline. you start being a porn addicted hairy scrote, then you go into fetishes like futanari and “femboy” and then youre wearing a wig and thinking youre a woman.

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2447086

>>2447077
that’s really what he does lmao. nobody who interacts with this stuff has an IQ with 3 digits

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2447095>>2447097>>2447101>>2447104>>2447248>>2447464

File (hide): 1742137268895.png (Spoiler Image,343.66 KB, 492x275, tiny hands.PNG)

>>2447060
>Black Souls
This game fascinates me because there is some good rpg horror elements but its heavily crippled by the creator's moid tendencies of adding awful coomslop. >>2447080
And its not the regular kind of coomshit but it's genuinely badly drawn, like something an incel highschooler would scribble on his notepad.

Honestly, he just needs to drop trying to be a hentai artist but rather just make a straight-on horror game. He just needs to tone done the obvious edgelord shock value and learn how to improve his subtle horror writing.
Otherwise Black souls is the biggest "I got tricked into playing a shit game" I have ever experienced.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWMerveilleux
No. 2447097>>2447464

File (hide): 1742137640995.png (432.8 KB, 508x385, dasgjasdgjhads.png)

>>2447080
For every cute design, there's at least 10 schizophrenic coomer ones
>>2447095
Agreed, there's a reason why the fanbase is all lolifaggots, they're the only ones who can appreciate the creators blatant mental illness and fetishes seeping into his work like no other kek

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2447101

>>2447095
the art isnt even that good it looks like chickenscratch
who is getting off to this? it could have been based if it was made by a woman and she didnt feel the need to add coomshit

Regards.Lumineux
No. 2447104>>2447111>>2447464

File (hide): 1742138267457.jpg (149.47 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg)

>>2447095
AYRT but what I hate about Black Souls, specifically Black souls 2 is that it uses the molestation of Alice Liddell as an edgy plot point and showcases the pedo Lewis Carroll as a tragic figure. BS fans try to convince you that the game dev potrays Carroll as the bad guy but saying that having a sexual obsession with a child as an adult is bad doesn't really work in a game that constantly sexualizes loli characters and lets you chose whenever your main love interest (Alice) is your mom, sister or fucking daughter.
Black souls has some interesting themes but they are ruined by clumsy coomerism and edgelord tendencies. Best girl in this shit game is based misandrist Unis, she also has the best design in the whole game imo. Even if her motivation for being a manhater is obviously written by a man, she's still cool for wanting to have a pure female only kingdom

fujo-to-tif-piplineSans Pareil
No. 2447111>>2447116

>>2447104
Why are you even playing this shit

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2447116>>2447139>>2447225

>>2447111
I haven't played it lmao but I've seen some route and lore videos of it on youtube because I was curious about the moids that make a fuss about it being dark and deep kek. I was severely disappointed to say the least because it's shit tier dark fantasy and a total fromsoft ripoff (inspired my ass)

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2447123>>2447125>>2447131>>2447132>>2447134>>2447157>>2447207>>2447247>>2447259>>2447425>>2447878

File (hide): 1742139535045.jpeg (185.55 KB, 750x865, IMG_4072.jpeg)

The 37 year old fandom mom sounds kinda Stacy

weenusDébutant
No. 2447125>>2447133

>>2447123
>child abuse cw
>bullying cw
>children's rights
How do these faggots survive in the real world?

BlowjobsAreForPigsLumineux
No. 2447131

>>2447123
Oh my god get a lifeeeee go outside please. Actually don’t because I don’t want to see these people in the real world

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2447132

>>2447123
The amount of hatred people had for Otayuri just because it was a 3 year age gap was so fucking funny. That and retards seething over 1st/3rd year ships was the point everyone should've known fandoms were doomed.

bratgasmMerveilleux
No. 2447133>>2447136

>>2447125
They don't. They stay home and the very few times they go outside they have panic attacks. They cope by acting like they're hot shit on the internet.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldDébutant
No. 2447134

>>2447123
Why do they hate older women so much? They're the ones making actual quality fan content instead of drawing characters floating on a white background with titchop scars and shitting up AO3 with untagged tranny jumpscares

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2447135

File (hide): 1742140268032.png (374.44 KB, 606x430, metro.PNG)

>>2447068
Offtopic but I checked out his xitter. As a big Metro 2033 fan I've always wondered who in their right mind would like bland ass Anna as a character and think that her romantic relationship with Artyom is well written.
I guess I have my answers now. It's this coomer.

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2447136>>2447138>>2447456

>>2447133
I'd actually argue the opposite. Those people don't need the thousands of trigger warnings they request and can operate in the real world without them fine. It's only online where they force themselves to cry type and have panic attacks over seeing food because it's largely a subconscious power play, seeing how people will tag the most minuscule things for them, or just keywords to add a resume of what they're traumatized of for more victim points.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2447138

>>2447136
I've seen this play out in real time kek I have a munchie childhood friend who acts like a crytyping SPED online but is pretty functional irl

Depressed_In_BucharestDébutant
No. 2447139>>2447147

>>2447116
Dude, do you like this character in a romantic way? Don't be shy.

crabbyMerveilleux
No. 2447147

>>2447139
What character specifically nonna? I don't really know what about my post made you think that I like any of Black Souls boring waifu bait romantically kek.

BlowjobsAreForPigsLumineux
No. 2447157>>2447170>>2447187>>2447212>>2447457

>>2447123
I think “””anti””” zoomers are annoying and retarded but also I sympathize a little lol. I don’t give a fuck about “problematic” ships but I keep meeting people who just want to shove it in your face like I’m supposed to be impressed that they like incest, and pick fights with dumb kids over it. I like “problematic” ships too but I usually just block whoever says they’re against it or looks like a zoomer and just move on with my life.

NullLumineux
No. 2447170

>>2447157
internet identity culture is a plague, they have to make sure all the labels they use make up a significant part of their personality even when it's something as innocuous as not minding age gap ships

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2447187

>>2447157
I think the internet encourages people to take absolutist stances on things even in cases where it doesn't make sense to. It's obnoxious that retards on Twitter expect you to "pick a side" between wokescold children who think it's pedophilia to ship a 17-year-old with a 20-year-old, and creepy autist adults who goon to loli and incest.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2447207>>2447218

>>2447123
Still seething about Sheith after all these years

ashley jankowskiDébutant
No. 2447212

>>2447157
It's more crazy to me that there are people itt that genuinely pick a side in the argument instead of laughing at everybody.

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2447218>>2447226

>>2447207
i mean the ship name literally sounds like shit kek

kakaMerveilleux
No. 2447225>>2447254

>>2447116
doesnt this game have zoophillia in it…why are you really playing this game for..

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2447226>>2447233>>2447246

>>2447218
I don't really care. I've never watched Voltron nor gave a shit about any of its characters. I just thought by now people would've moved on from Voltron.

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2447233>>2447237

>>2447226
I thought it was an old Tumblr post, it's very 2017/2018

Skelly-ArmMerveilleux
No. 2447237

>>2447233
It definitely seems so, especially with the seething about ereri kek

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2447246

>>2447226
Kek nona I meant the pronunciation of sheith sounds like the word shit.

weegeewifeLumineux
No. 2447247>>2447255

>>2447123
I agree with the bottom sentiment to an extent but fandom moms are weird and I hate encountering them.

keksDébutant
No. 2447248>>2447250>>2447265

File (hide): 1742146564556.jpg (231.45 KB, 850x1042, __the_girl_d_arce_cahara_enki_…)

>>2447095
It's funny because on the other hand you have Fear and Hunger, a game that features monsters with their dicks out, but everyone jokes about the male MCs getting raped and the second game is super woke with a MtF main character.

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2447250>>2447265

>>2447248
Just to clarify, I meant something like "on the other end of the spectrum" because the game features nudity, gore, violence and is considered woke

trollcowSans Pareil
No. 2447254

>>2447225
Can you even read, I literally told you that I haven't played it

straight-with-extra-stepsSans Pareil
No. 2447255>>2455501

>>2447247
I feel like I've never seen an actual fandom mom ever

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2447259>>2447266

>>2447123
>”fandom moms” are based
Did you all forget about Nemu

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWSans Pareil
No. 2447265>>2447275

File (hide): 1742147529453.webp (Spoiler Image,114.68 KB, 249x319, Cocoon.webp)

>>2447248
>>2447250
It's ridiculous. Marina in Fear and Hunger 2 disliked his parents forcing him to cross dress. His moon scorched form clearly shows that. Troon mindset really shows than any trans representation is good.
I did like they toned down the SA in the second game though. I got anal bleeding status effect in like the first 2 mins of the first game.

weenusLumineux
No. 2447266>>2447959

>>2447259
wastn nemu in her 20s

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2447275>>2447291>>2447297

File (hide): 1742147818952.jpg (Spoiler Image,569.69 KB, 1448x2048, GBOCi96WoAAEPiW.jpg)

>>2447265
Apparently a fanartist got piled on for drawing masculine Marina lol
They don't care about all the fetish coomer art of him though
Miro is smart for shutting the fuck up and not talking about these things at all.

imSkirbeseMerveilleux
No. 2447291

>>2447275
Literally more elegant looking than the ugly sprite.

fujo-to-tif-piplineSans Pareil
No. 2447297

>>2447275
The hate for this fanart was so retarded kek trannies are genuinely delusional about how they look, it's not even like Marina was on HRT and had surgeries or whatever the fuck even if you wanted to be generous.

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2447300

>>2446956
"Psychological projection is an unconscious way of coping with emotional discomfort. It's a defense mechanism in which people attribute their own behaviors, impulses, and emotions to another person without realizing it." — a quick Google search

manmoder shoulderhonDébutant
No. 2447346>>2447357>>2447364>>2447392>>2447398>>2447428

>>2445705
>"H-half of the playerbase are women guise!!"

Omfg this again. That one healing rape anime (forgot its name) having a female audience, The Rising of the Shield Hero author being a woman (source: dude, trust me), Rancefags, and now Nikke supposedly having a ""40%"" female playerbse in Korea? Why? Why are they so insistent women like this? It's like that shitty comic about Men's Vs. Women's romance or ""goonettes"" Jesus Christ.

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2447357

File (hide): 1742151138727.jpg (179.68 KB, 424x600, 110018l.jpg)

>>2447346
>forgot its name
Redo of healer?

BlowjobsAreForPigsMerveilleux
No. 2447364>>2447398

>>2447346
>healing rape anime
Redo of Healer. Extremely fetishistic power fantasy thing where the MC was raped by a gang of heroes, goes back in time and rapes them all and brainwashes them to love him.
It's just hentai, it's literally just that.

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2447392>>2447406>>2447435

File (hide): 1742152153000.png (3.38 MB, 2000x1339, 500401.png)

>>2447346
I will say, there are a disproportionate amount of female Rance fans (chose picrel because obvious woman took this pic) but disproportionate /=/ majority like moids like to push. I've noticed Rance and their parent company's games have tons of female, LGB and tranny fans for the content they make. Well I guess troons being into it isn't surprising

NullDébutant
No. 2447398>>2447406>>2447409>>2447428

>>2447364
>>2447346
To be fair redo of healer was actually gay as fuck. This isn't a defense (it's trash) but there's a downright bizarre amount of male on male violence to say it was written by a scrote.

sageSans Pareil
No. 2447406>>2447409

>>2447398
>>2447392
See for me the thing is that I enjoy mature sexy women, especially if they have confident personalities, so I can tolerate some ecchi things on a visual level alone.

The thing where I draw a line is violence towards women, it makes me want to jump out of my skin. You have to be an extreme masochist to be into Rance.

trad4himLumineux
No. 2447409

>>2447398
Redo of a healer was confirmed to be written by a man, there's an interview with him and the anime man if you wanna find it. I think the author is just a turbodegenerate which explains the tranny-tier plotline of keyaru dressing up as a woman to seduce a lesbian. There was also an oniishota ugly bastard rape scene. What the fuck is wrong with the author kek
>>2447406
Absolutely.
>You have to be an extreme masochist to be into Rance.
I will say of these women I've talked to that are huge into Rance, a lot of them if not literally all of them got raped as a kid. I nooticed this is the case with (biological) women into rape beyond just shoujo level fuckery, loli, and extreme violence towards women.

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2447414>>2447449

Who the fuck is rance

Regards.Lumineux
No. 2447425

>>2447123
Fandom moms are annoying

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2447428>>2447463>>2447733

File (hide): 1742153995070.jpg (256.02 KB, 1500x1209, 20250313_191942.jpg)

>>2447346
The artist of Shield Hero is a woman, a yumefujo. The author is unconfirmed.
The story also becomes time loop homo madohomu after a while so it's not all that surprising that it has female fans.
>>2447398
The author wrote it for a paycheck, he really just threw shit at the wall that he'd figure would get people outraged and "wow no way" enough to read. He saw there was "revenge" genre that didn't have anything going full tard with it so he made a series that was nothing but edgy revenge retard shit. The definition of shock schlock.
Not that his serious work is much better though.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2447429

>>2445856
What the fuck kek. I hate male sexuality.

CerbminOwner
No. 2447435>>2447437>>2447450>>2447467>>2447468

>>2447392
>disproportionate amount of female Rance fans
I don't know this VN but I doubt this part because VNs come from an extremely niche part of otaku culture and otakus are almost all moids (At least as far as Japan is concerned. Maybe the West is different).

landmine-himeLumineux
No. 2447437

>>2447435
Kek no

Kirby_is_GNCLumineux
No. 2447449>>2447466

>>2447414
You need to go back if you don’t know who rance is at this point

Kirby_is_GNCSans Pareil
No. 2447450>>2447512

>>2447435
Otomes and bl exist to discredit narrative nonna.

sageSans Pareil
No. 2447456

>>2447136
I said what I said based on several people I know irl, including one who became a neet and a shut in so she could avoid anything that triggers her (literally everything) and she could have more free time to argue with other fandom idiots. The ones joking that this type of people can't ask for ketchup at mcdonalds without stuttering and panicking aren't exaggerating.

fuck_fujoshitsMerveilleux
No. 2447457>>2447700

>>2447157
I like problematic ships and lean / would be considered proshipper but would never hang around people who label themselves that way or involve themselves in discourse. It's like they can't stfu and make content, they have to show off how edgy they are

LaurLumineux
No. 2447463>>2447465>>2447467

File (hide): 1742155155421.jpg (284.37 KB, 1000x1415, 20250316_125323.jpg)

>>2447428
Might as well add this funny tidbit adter looking through her twitter, she actually drew the male characters for both Valentine's Day and White Day.
It seems like originally, she was going to draw female characters for the second holiday, but since apparently male weebs complained she drew them again. Said it was her personal account and she hoped they'd keep complaining about it.

manmoder shoulderhonDébutant
No. 2447464

>>2447104
>>2447097
>>2447095
>>2447080
Fuck if chicken scratch coomer shit like this can have a playerbase for being faux deep what am I doing putting off on making my vidya project. this is prime hope fuel

elfearsMerveilleux
No. 2447465

>>2447463
>Said it was her personal account and she hoped they'd keep complaining about it.
kek that's pretty funny.

Skelly-ArmMerveilleux
No. 2447466

>>2447449
Rance sounds like a gay fantasy mc name

Depressed_In_BucharestSans Pareil
No. 2447467>>2447477>>2447512

>>2447435
I say disproportionate for a series of that nature, not majority. I'm talking about the western fanbase though, obviously the majority of female weebs/otaku both here and Japan aren't into stuff like Rance. I'm not trying to spread the narrative that "w-women are actually super into stuff like rance doods!", sorry if it came off as such.
>>2447463
>It seems like originally, she was going to draw female characters for the second holiday, but since apparently male weebs complained she drew them again. Said it was her personal account and she hoped they'd keep complaining about it.
Fucking BASED. I rarely seem women do stuff like that so I'm glad. I heard that Shield Hero had a notable fujo following in Japan but don't quote me on that. Do you have her Twitter bro?

weegeewifeDébutant
No. 2447468

>>2447435
Check twitter, some were posted in the last thread. It's millennial western VN girlies after zoomers took saya no uta and euphoria lol

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2447477>>2447540

>>2447467
@Minami_Seira

bratgasmMerveilleux
No. 2447512>>2447522

>>2447450
90% of VNs have been nukige, galge, or some other type involving mainly heterosexual romance. Otome and BL are a relatively smaller part of VNs. Check VNDB for an example of the number of entries that exist for nukige vs otome (Not counting of course, ones that are both. That's even more rare).
5604 results for otome
7760 results for nukige
That is a 2156 difference.
>>2447467
>I'm talking about the western fanbase though
Yeah I'm not sure about that then, since VNs still aren't that popular in the West. Unless it's ones heavier on gameplay elements and it seems like this series is, so maybe that's why. Westerners just tend to like VNs with less reading and more gameplay.

ashley jankowskiMerveilleux
No. 2447522>>2447536

>>2447512
You seem at the same time like you know some things about VN fans and like you're totally out of touch. Hell, there was that edgy english vtuber who even mentioned liking "gore screaming show" to get incel cred

keksMerveilleux
No. 2447526>>2448234

>>2447029
This person literally posted some rpg where the main girl stays in her child form after you marry her as best girl. Gross.

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2447528

>>2445892
Borderline porn like this can be posted to youtube but god forbid a person says 'fuck' or 'pedophile' in a video

trollcowLumineux
No. 2447536>>2447547

>>2447522
>you know some things about VN fans
Well I've been reading them since middle school and love them as a medium.
>like you're totally out of touch
In what way? I've read more VNs than you could count. I can talk circles around most people that bring them up.
>edgy english vtuber who even mentioned liking "gore screaming show" to get incel cred
I don't watch vtubers and don't care about that, but that sounds about right. People like to be melodramatic with "Oh, that's some fucked up hentai shit" when talking about VNs. Again, Japan doesn't help with this since they push out mostly nukige and because sex sells. At the same time, that doesn't mean VNs that don't involve scat/piss/shit/tentacle rape/etc. don't exist and there are plenty made that aren't. If anything, the "non-degen" ones are even more available to you now, looking at what has happened to the state of VN translation.

Ashton_WintersDébutant
No. 2447540

File (hide): 1742158716227.png (5.48 MB, 1439x1919, GQAreTKaQAAaiq2.png)

>>2447477
Damn a lot of her art is pretty gorgeous.

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2447547>>2447567>>2447594>>2447748>>2448461>>2448788

>>2447536
Yes, while VNs aren't big in the west as a form of media, it's undeniable that the infamous ones got translated and got attention. This tangles itself with the edgy culture that idolizes 4chan and some content creators that bait views with shock value.

Western anime fans undeniably have circles that try to one up each other about how deep in the know they are by showing the edgiest thing they read. In that niche group, saying you like Rance or Futa porn is so not like other girls and gives you otaku cred lol

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2447567>>2447585

>>2447547
I know that she's a giant pickme but the worst thing to me about sydsnap is her fucking voice, it is unbearable to me, even though I can sympathize by also being a woman with an annoying voice.

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2447585>>2447608

>>2447567
she larps as a tsundere so its no wonder why shes so obnoxious shes a ultra pickme who reviews moid sex toys and commissions porn of herself

Regards.Lumineux
No. 2447594

>>2447547
>Western anime fans undeniably have circles that try to one up each other about how deep in the know they are by showing the edgiest thing they read.
What makes me laugh about those fans is that they'll brag about sitting though guro porn but they go into a frenzy if there is NTR in anything.

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2447608>>2447623

>>2447585
>she larps as a tsundere
Really? That's pretty sad, though I always assumed that she larped as a pervy hentai obsessed cool girl, aren't most tsunderes in anime pretty sex repulsed and call the self insert main guy a pervert over innocuous things?
I haven't seen harem shit in years so I don't really know.

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2447623>>2447628>>2447816

>>2447608
yup whats worse she used to rp as the incest anime tsundere (found the actual clip)

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2447628

File (hide): 1742162897691.jpg (17.66 KB, 321x416, 1718136143504082.jpg)

>>2447623
HOLY SHIT I know this is meant to be a joke but this was… just really hard to get through.

weenusDébutant
No. 2447700

>>2447457
This is pretty much where I'm at, too. There are pairings I ship specifically because they're unhealthy, which makes them more interesting to write fic about. I'm not into any of the crazy bullshit like incest or lolisho, I just like moral complexity in fiction, including romance.

A few years back, I remember a few zoomies on Tumblr discovering The Vampire Armand and having a conniption because Armand (a teenager) was infatuated with Marius, who was (biologically) 36. But they totally ignored all of the context around it: relationships between master painters and their young apprentices were unfortunately pervasive at the time, and the book makes it pretty clear that Armand's interactions with Marius had a lasting negative affect on him (not least because Marius turned Armand into a vampire when he was only 17). A lot of Armand's development throughout the book is focused around how he goes from venerating Marius to realizing how unhealthy their dynamic was. Forbidding that anyone depict these situations kind of throws the baby out with the bath water, because it lumps in critical, artistic examinations of morally complex topics with run-of-the-mill fetish slop.

Basically, my attitude towards portrayals of "problematic" things has everything to do with the framing, and not exclusively with the content itself.

keksMerveilleux
No. 2447733>>2448775

>>2447428
>Shield Hero
Yeah, I'm not skeptical of the female fans, other than the daughter-slave-love-interest and false rape thing—the pretty (light novel) character designs and mild fujobait can definitely justify female fans.

It's the "the author is actually a woman!!" shit that grates me. What woman would create a character who's surrogate daughter who's also a slave who's much younger than her physical body and calls the main male self-insert with "-sama"? And marries him and bears him kids in the end?

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2447748>>2447800

>>2447547
She's married to Gigguk right? Christ, I wish she'd divorce him, I'm 90% sure he's the cause of her being such a pickme.

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2447800>>2448004

>>2447748
I know we expect better from women but I'm pretty sure she was always like this nonna.

manmoder shoulderhonDébutant
No. 2447815>>2447817>>2447998>>2448005>>2448028>>2448078>>2448097>>2448101>>2448105>>2448187>>2448232>>2448451>>2449127

File (hide): 1742169305790.png (1.04 MB, 599x874, retard.PNG)

Pathetic.

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2447816

>>2447623
This used to be in every weeb cringe compilation

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2447817>>2447834>>2447963

>>2447815
And I think that gay men should go fuck themselves and make their own games.

weenusDébutant
No. 2447834

>>2447817
They do already, tifs just don't wanna play them for obvious reasons

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2447878

>>2447123
these zoomer fucks are worthless fan creators both when it comes to art and fanfics, with few exceptions. based middle aged proship fandom moms.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2447959

>>2447266
Nemu would be in her early 30s now and was most milky through her 20s. The fandom mom shit she peddled was part of her ddlg preggo kink and her habit of surrounding herself with teenagers gave her delusions of being an experienced and mature Nice Lady. She was never a fandom mom. Most fandom moms have enough sense to keep to themselves and stay out of fandom spaces. The ones that openly call themselves mom, auntie, etc. are overgrown autists or zillenials insecure because they're over 20.

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2447963

>>2447817
That twitter post was painfully obviously made by a TIF, anon

CerbminOwner
No. 2447998>>2448108

File (hide): 1742178428766.png (3.05 MB, 1773x1080, 9d362f7fb40e3f00f6ef6cab0daff1…)

>>2447815
I don't really think it makes a difference since otome protagonists are usually silent or almost silent anyway so I guess you could pretend that they're a guy anyway.
If the option is there though I'm not gonna complain.

Astarion_is_walledSans Pareil
No. 2448004

>>2447800
I suppose her religious background fucked her mentally and becoming popular with degenerate moids at a young age didn't help. But it's still pathetic of her to get married and still being a pick-me.

landmine-himeDébutant
No. 2448005>>2448010

>>2447815
…Anyways
>Goes back to writing my otome that has a female main character because I'm writing for women
It's in the fucking name, otome means maiden.

weenusLumineux
No. 2448010>>2448015>>2448028

>>2448005
I don't think gay men are the target anyway, when they do protagonist gender options they're going for fujos as an alternate audience.

trad4himDébutant
No. 2448015>>2448032>>2448077

>>2448010
Imo most of the people whining about otome protagonists only being female are TIFs. I think most (non-gendie) fujos are content just playing games marked as BL and avoiding what they don't want to see instead of whining that they be changed. I like both but I feel like BL and Otome are very different flavors and having an interchangable protagonist would kind of water that down. I'm not wholly against the option to pick the protagonist's gender but games that do that are also more likely to have gendieshit in them to begin with. I'd rather just choose if I want to play otome or BL and not have my food touch.

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2448028>>2448041>>2448545

>>2447815
I wish EN fandoms had the same tagging and zoning autism JP/CN fandoms have. Even with the problems JP/CN fandoms have, I appreciate that rule as it allows me to avoid actually retarded people like picrel as they're usually beaten down. Pisses me off that they're still this resistant to accepting that otome is MxF romance for women
>>2448010
Going for fujos as an alternate audience would be suicide for otome games. Do you mean joseimuke?

weenusSans Pareil
No. 2448032>>2448040

>>2448015
>having an interchangable protagonist would kind of water that down
I don't think this is true since plenty of self insert characters are crazy popular with fujos (just look at the persona guys)

rottenbeardMerveilleux
No. 2448036

>>2442781
Randy lesbian has a girlfriend in real life

Anonymous GeneLumineux
No. 2448040>>2448041

>>2448032
I meant that otome and BL tend to have very different vibes and a game should probably pick one or the other, a blend between them would very easily feel blander. Plus, at the end of the day the persona games are not targeting fujos specifically.

Astarion_is_walledSans Pareil
No. 2448041>>2448047>>2448050

>>2448028
>Going for fujos as an alternate audience would be suicide for otome games
Would it though? There's already fujos that draw BL for otome games so I don't think they'd be against playing them.
>>2448040
Joseimuke is crazy popular though.

Astarion_is_walledDébutant
No. 2448047>>2448051>>2448053

>>2448041
In the first place, otome games were not created for fujoshi. There may be some fujoshi, but they are the minority and looked down upon. Most otome players are adverse to any type of BL content in their games.

rottenbeardMerveilleux
No. 2448050

>>2448041
>Joseimuke is crazy popular
That is true. Honestly though some people feel like it can get kind of dull. They tease both yume and ship content but never fully commit (obviously they wouldn't or they'd alienate some of their fans) so it's a bit annoying on that front to never really get the actual content you'd like, just hints of it. It does make more money to cast a wider net but there's no reason to do that unless you're a company

ex-farmhandLumineux
No. 2448051>>2448054>>2448056

>>2448047
>Most otome players are adverse to any type of BL content in their games.
Source?

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWDébutant
No. 2448053>>2448056>>2448060>>2448067

>>2448047
Otome are fucking dying like any non gacha anyway, I don't get how adding a gender option to get some fujos (who actually do still buy VNs) would hurt anything.

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2448054>>2448063

>>2448051
Some Japanese yumes were BTFO when a love interest in shuuen no virche was hinted at having a male admirer kek they tried to review bomb the game on Amazon.

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2448056>>2448057>>2448062

>>2448051
Look no further than CN otome players literally mobbing fujos all the time kekk. For a JP example, Virche Evermore also received quite a lot of criticism just for having a minor side character being implied to like one of the LIs.
>>2448053
And BL VNs aren't dying too? If anything, it's the otome game players (at least with LADS) who seem to be spending more

WhiteGlovianDébutant
No. 2448057>>2448064>>2448071>>2448072>>2448074>>2448214

File (hide): 1742181538612.png (764.81 KB, 1263x753, blvn .png)

>>2448056
>And BL VNs aren't dying too?
No?

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2448060>>2448065>>2448112

>>2448053
Fujolards deserve nothing, otome is doing fine without that group of gorillas getting their hammy paws near it(fujosperging)

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2448062>>2448072

>>2448056
LADS isn't otome it's gacha

trollcowSans Pareil
No. 2448063

>>2448054
“btfo” when he dies mutilated brutally in every route including the true route kek, love to see it

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2448064>>2448066

>>2448057
All garbage that no one bought

manmoder shoulderhonMerveilleux
No. 2448065

>>2448060
>fujolards
Stfu yuripedo, I thought you were permabanned ages ago(report and ignore)

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2448066

>>2448064
Dude are you retarded? They literally are in the top 10 every single week, clearly fujos are buying them.

NullMerveilleux
No. 2448067>>2448069>>2448072

>>2448053
Because it was never meant for you, target audiences exist. I’m sorry companies barely care enough to invest in some decent games for fujos that you have to seek elsewhere for scraps kek

Vegan_PrincessSans Pareil
No. 2448069

>>2448067
Fujo games get higher quality scripts and figures though.

Mutiliated MenSans Pareil
No. 2448071>>2448076

>>2448057
I like BL but those are so old and BL doesn't get localized as often

novemberDébutant
No. 2448072

>>2448062
It is a gacha, but it is also an otome game. The CN players call it an otome game, and the developers themselves do as well.
>>2448057
I am referring to recent releases. VNs, in general, are declining, and compared to BL, otome games are getting more releases. Anyways, like >>2448067 said, target audiences exist.

trad4himMerveilleux
No. 2448074>>2448076>>2448081

>>2448057
>mostly ancient games
BL games are truly dying…

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2448076

>>2448071
That is true but BL has always gotten like one or two new games a year.
As for otome, it's just because otomate's parent company releases a thousand shovelware games a year (just look at the fucking neptunia series).
>>2448074
People still buying them though, I don't get why it matters how old they are.

trollcowLumineux
No. 2448077>>2448082

>>2448015
>I'm not wholly against the option to pick the protagonist's gender
I'm not wholly against this either, but my issue with these games is that they write the MC and interactions with LIs the same, just different pronouns. They may as well be otome because the male option never acts like a guy like you would find in BL. But I guess it's intentionally done so TIFs don't have a meltdown on the creator's ass.

bratgasmMerveilleux
No. 2448078>>2448096

>>2447815
Doesnt “amare” exist or whatever that meme genre was that fujotifs made up for inclusive dating sims kek, what happened to that?

rottenbeardMerveilleux
No. 2448081>>2448082>>2448084>>2448086

>>2448074
I wonder why, it makes me sad. Is it simply the rise of gachatrash? Or falling out in favor of manga?

rottenbeardMerveilleux
No. 2448082

>>2448077
I get the argument for this in the case of stuff like huniepop where the protagonist has a gender option but is very very very obviously meant to be a guy but I don't see how there's a big enough difference between fujo and otome since they're both shoujo genres for it to matter, not to mention that a lot of these games have silent or almost silent protagonists.
>>2448081
Gacha's just taking over fucking everything, only thing that's kind of hanging on is shitty ass vtubers.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWDébutant
No. 2448084

>>2448081
Its because JP fujos are retards who are happy with joseimuke gacha slop fujobait

fujo-to-tif-piplineMerveilleux
No. 2448086

>>2448081
I figured it was the same reason for R18 otome dying, these games are on PC while mobile is a much more popular and accessible platform.

imSkirbeseSans Pareil
No. 2448096

>>2448078
The people who whine about dating sims not being inclusive enough just like to complain. You never see them around when indie devs bother to release "amare" games, but they're always complaining about eastern commercial games instead.

ashley jankowskiDébutant
No. 2448097>>2449127

>>2447815
I say this as a mega fujo, fuck off and make a yaoi game and leave otomes alone holy shit

Submas Goes In The Image FieldSans Pareil
No. 2448101

>>2447815
I think otome is cringe but it pisses me off how modern fandom cannot understand when something isnt targetted at them. They are used to western media being as bland as generic as possible to target to broad audiences and dont understand otaku media exists because its made for a niche audience of autists thats not being pandered by mainstream media.

landmine-himeSans Pareil
No. 2448105

>>2447815
Jesus Christ who gives a rat's ass? It's not like you can see the MC most of the time anyway.

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2448108>>2448111

>>2447998
Yeah I think it's fine for otomes to provide the option but to DEMAND that they all provide a male MC is absurd and entitled, especially when moids don't play this stuff anyway (as evidenced by the fact that the OP of that tweet is almost certainly a TIF).

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2448111

>>2448108
Yeah I agree that demanding it is pretty entitled, I just think the option itself being there isn't a bad thing.
>especially when moids don't play this stuff anyway
It's not for moids it's for fujos, the game in pic rel literally advertised itself as an otome/BL.

Kirby_is_GNCDébutant
No. 2448112>>2448182

>>2448060
>fujolard
You realize you're that only person that says this and that it makes it extremely obvious who you are, right? Also I'd bet money that I'm skinnier than you.(report and ignore baiters)

novemberSans Pareil
No. 2448125>>2448451>>2448521>>2448525

File (hide): 1742185866192.png (26.59 KB, 590x313, otomegenre.png)

otometwt always feels the need to force this argument every week

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2448182

>>2448112
Not true, I also use it sometimes cause its funny

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWMerveilleux
No. 2448184

>>2447070
this has a perverse aura

WhiteGlovianLumineux
No. 2448187

>>2447815
>fujotifs at the scene of the crime again
>gay men gay men gay men have you thought about how gay men feel about your game for and by women yet? btw im a gay man too not a faghag
how is it possible for one single group of female fans to be worse than every other autist himejo/fujo/yumejo combined? it's like open sewage in a fandom(fujosperging outside of containment)

bratgasmMerveilleux
No. 2448214

>>2448057
Lmfao, girl I read most of these in high school 15 years ago

novemberLumineux
No. 2448219

I don't get why some anons are confused that women want content without gay men or gay baiting, after the last decade or two of fandom having people like this >>2446748
People are obsessed with discussing and speculating the sexuality of characters even in stories where it's a married character with children.

kys bishitsLumineux
No. 2448232

>>2447815
Once again fujotrannies complaining that otomes don't feature their zipperboi fantasies. What is the LI even going to do? Screaming "you're heckin valid" everytime they hold hands?(fujosperging outside of containment)

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2448234>>2448487

File (hide): 1742196690246.jpeg (209.89 KB, 828x1217, 1698122885661.jpeg)


its givingSans Pareil
No. 2448262>>2448281

>>2447014
nonna look closer i think you posted a tif art

rottenbeardMerveilleux
No. 2448281

>>2448262
Yeah, I was thinking of all female artists, including tifs lol
I know less than a handful female artists that draw male coomer style porn and they only do it for the money

CerbminOwner
No. 2448329>>2448341>>2448356>>2448364>>2448419>>2448574>>2448589>>2448601>>2448678

File (hide): 1742209627601.jpg (305.18 KB, 1211x1101, 548fac16b60115e22694d6b80a0479…)

I fucking hate how bixels draw rarijack. They have Applejack acting like a sweaty wimpy simp. And her attitude feels so moidish. The way they draw expressions is annoying too.

fuck_fujoshitsSans Pareil
No. 2448331>>2448341>>2448419>>2448519>>2448574>>2448589>>2448601>>2448615>>2448624>>2448678

File (hide): 1742209842950.jpg (251.57 KB, 1280x824, cc7f051a4531501c397450e8f3dc52…)

She always looks like she's about to hump her leg

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2448341>>2448363>>2448566

>>2448329
>>2448331
It's like they start crying and pissing themselves at the thought of drawing two attractive and not fat white women in love with each other.

Vegan_PrincessLumineux
No. 2448356

>>2448329
isn't the artist a moid?

ashley jankowskiMerveilleux
No. 2448363>>2448365

>>2448341
i don't think there's anything wrong with drawing female characters, and ones that don't have canon human designs at that, as average/unattractive. its refreshing, even. not every female character needs to be fuckable.

fujo-to-tif-piplineDébutant
No. 2448364

>>2448329
Times are so difficult for western yuri I'm grateful she at least isn't a TIM/futa

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2448365>>2448430

>>2448363
Applejack would not be fat, she works on a farm doing physical labor. Also not being fat doesn't mean being some hypersexual moid-centered fuckdoll or whatever you are implying kek.

SoapPropagandistLumineux
No. 2448419

>>2448329
>>2448331
This is OOC for Applejack and she would be fit and muscular from working on a farm all day. AJ wouldn't look like a fat man.

weenusDébutant
No. 2448430>>2448457

>>2448365
who cares, she doesn't have an official design. i've known people who do manual labor that are fat. keep whining about fanart of a kids cartoon not being attractive enough for you lol

ex-farmhandDébutant
No. 2448435>>2448455

>look up ship on ao3
>21 works
>9 have the trans tag
>read one of them only to find out it was yet another (untagged) tif delusion
Why must I suffer like this.

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2448451>>2448521

>>2447815
Then don't call it otome then? Why do people feel the need to invade female genres but no one does the same for stuff aimed for men?
>>2448125
Idk, this is actually problem in the otome community. LaDs opened the door to so many normies ideas about VNs and naturally most of them dripping in retardation. Have any of these people played nightshade?

Regards.Lumineux
No. 2448455

File (hide): 1742219473823.jpeg (4.3 KB, 232x218, download.jpeg)

>>2448435
Come read Chinese fics translated on yandex with me nona it's better here

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2448457>>2448465>>2448513

>>2448430
Can we please stop projecting onto fugly depictions of cartoons and getting a little too upset when normal people don't like to be constantly assaulted by ugly and fat cartoon people.

Skelly-ArmDébutant
No. 2448461

>>2447547
I feel a morbid curiosity to read this once, but no matter how much pick-mes can glaze it and Yuuka all of this is just woman hating and fantasies about brutally murdering women lol

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2448465>>2448468>>2448470

>>2448457
How are any of the images listed ugly? I'm not defending this artist since their art may need work but it's not insulting or anything. Like, what do you people want? Basic pretty people being bitchy simulator?

kakaLumineux
No. 2448468

>>2448465
There's genuinely no reason for you to get this upset about anons not liking an ugly, fat picture of human Applejack. Also you have got to be kidding… what makes the pictures ugly? What makes them cute? What makes them appealing to the eye (not in a moid way which you'll probably bring up)? The pictures are fugly and they're drawing Applejack as an ugly fat woman for internet SJW brownie points. Like at least make her muscular.

all whores will dieMerveilleux
No. 2448470

>>2448465
NTA but creators nowadays seem to be split into coomer scrotes and woke tumblr artists, seeing actually pretty women that aren't all about skimpy clothes, tits and jiggles is rare.

WhiteGlovianMerveilleux
No. 2448481

Sending death threats to a fictional character to shit on his fans and being a toxic ass bitch so much that the devs ban your account with no refund? Hilarious

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2448487

>>2448234
Disgusting. I’m so glad that dragon ball creator lolifag died in a horrible way, a fitting death for pedos.

ex-farmhandDébutant
No. 2448513>>2448519>>2448523

>>2448457
normal people don't care how cartoon horses are drawn as people

fujo-to-tif-piplineLumineux
No. 2448519>>2448530

>>2448513
And normal people also don't look at this >>2448331 >>2448329 and genuinely think it looks good and get upset that people rightfully think it's fuck ugly.

elfearsDébutant
No. 2448521>>2448525

>>2448125
>The OP post
Ok… obviously she needs to play more otome but it didn't seem like she was trashing the genre. I wouldn't be surprised if "games" also included waifu/omnipandering slop.
>>2448451
Tbf these arguments were around in the community before LADS. A game comes out with an MC with some active traits and idiots act like it's revolutionary, while other idiots can't defend a more passive MC without sounding misogynistic about it.

ashley jankowskiDébutant
No. 2448523

>>2448513
normal people don't care about anything that would be in this thread kek

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2448525>>2448538>>2448550>>2448706

>>2448125
>>2448521
I genuinely don't know many otome where the MC isn't super passive and fine with guys kidnapping her or doing other shit.
The ones that come to mind are collar x malice and tokimemo.

SoapPropagandistDébutant
No. 2448530>>2448549

>>2448519
normal people wouldn't care, literally. getting mad someone drew a cartoon horse as a fat woman and not a conventionally attractive is stupid, just block and find a different artist that draws them the way you like.

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2448538>>2448541

>>2448525
Tears of Themis

Skelly-ArmMerveilleux
No. 2448541>>2448547

>>2448538
That's another mobile gacha game though, kek

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2448545

>>2448028
>I wish EN fandoms had the same tagging and zoning autism JP/CN fandoms have.
They adopted the turbo autistic obsession with ship naming conventions as in "top name goes first" and now fly into a tard rage and cry "it's about preference" whenever someone doesn't give a shit. Double that if someone points out that the preference always ends up being the decidedly unwoque "the one that's smaller and more feminine is the bottom bitch every time".

Depressed_In_BucharestMerveilleux
No. 2448547

>>2448541
I know but it's also an otome game

keksDébutant
No. 2448549>>2448553

>>2448530
>just block
? I don't use social media. I just saw the fugly Applejacks in this thread kek. I'm just calling ugly drawings ugly. Literally what is the problem with calling ugly drawings ugly? I don't get it.

Regards.Sans Pareil
No. 2448550

>>2448525
CN otome tend to have MCs that aren't super passive.

weegeewifeLumineux
No. 2448553>>2448580

>>2448549
this thread is full of twittards who draw the exact way thats why theyre so pissed about you calling that style ugly kekk

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2448555>>2448561>>2448564

If you actually get kidnapped trying to establish an emotional bond with your captor/s, waiting to get rescued and sending a message to outside world if possible is much smarter than trying to fight or run away because latter is much more likely to get you killed/placed in worse conditions.

fuck_fujoshitsMerveilleux
No. 2448561

>>2448555
LOL that's not the issue people have nonnie, it's not written as a psychological horror of a woman escaping kidnapping- it's written like a woman slowly giving up and being worn down by an abusive moid

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2448564>>2448618

>>2448555
Yeah, we know. And irl kidnappers aren't hot ikemen either.

novemberLumineux
No. 2448566>>2448580>>2448602

>>2448341
"How dare you make my horses fat and brown! Society has fallen!!!"

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2448574>>2448580

>>2448329
>>2448331
I don't understand why people are acting like she's some ugly obese deathfat here when she's clearly bulky in the way that people who do a lot of manual labour are.

ashley jankowskiMerveilleux
No. 2448580>>2448590>>2448610

>>2448566
Nta but she said "not fat white women" not "fat not white women"
>>2448574
Still nta but literally who gives a fuck that some other anon made a joke about how twittards draw as >>2448553 said. If you draw like this, awesome, no one is saying you should kill yourself over your they/she coded ponies.

straight-with-extra-stepsSans Pareil
No. 2448589

>>2448329
>>2448331
People are really defending this hideous shit. What the fuck is that line art? This looks like something a middle schooler nowadays could whip up after a few days of being acquainted with a drawing tablet.

Regards.Lumineux
No. 2448590>>2448598

>>2448580
>literally who gives a fuck that some other anon made a joke about how twittards draw
I never said any of that and idc how people draw their baby show gijinkas. I just think it's weird that people are calling her fat when she's clearly meant to have muscles. Because she works on a farm.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWDébutant
No. 2448593>>2448594

File (hide): 1742226502954.jpeg (Spoiler Image,199.41 KB, 970x673, IMG_2999.jpeg)

Do you retards ever shut up(ai/infight bait/spoiler your shit)

elfearsDébutant
No. 2448594

>>2448593
Let them at it imo.

weegeewifeLumineux
No. 2448598

>>2448590
She doesn't look like she has muscles though, she looks fleshy and undefined. She literally has a second chin in the first picture posted.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2448601>>2448605>>2448606>>2448615>>2448617

File (hide): 1742226962197.png (561 KB, 1094x870, Screenshot 2025-03-17 at 8.53.…)

>>2448329
>>2448331
How did they make her look so bulky and ugly? She's just supposed to be a farm girl. Even in the (cursed) Equestria Girls show design she's drawn as a thin girl who is strong and can use power tools kek

kys bishitsDébutant
No. 2448602

>>2448566
go back

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2448605>>2448608

>>2448601
She looks better as a tif than that

frill thrillLumineux
No. 2448606>>2448609

>>2448601
Plus if you look up female farmhand most women will be not stick thin but definitely not the uber bulky that those anons are claiming is just muscle, either. The head and neck were drawn way too plump and thick to really look like just ranch hand muscle bulk.

Anonymous GeneLumineux
No. 2448608

>>2448605
No she doesn't because she's a cute cartoon horse who isn't even bigger than the rest of the main cast so she should be somewhat cute in appearance if this is still following the MLP mythos and not some fat gendie's mind palace.

pooty pooty tang tangMerveilleux
No. 2448609

>>2448606
I think the artist was trying alluding to the cowness of tif applejack, which makes sense since she is a farmhand

CerbminOwner
No. 2448610

>>2448580
I know that's what she said? She's complaining because she wants skinny white horses. Who cares?

Astarion_is_walledMerveilleux
No. 2448615>>2448617>>2448619

>>2448601
>>2448331
I think a fusion between these two designs would be ideal

ex-farmhandDébutant
No. 2448617

>>2448615
>>2448601
It bugged me an irrational amount how EQG made Applejack and Rainbow Dash wear skirts in their default outfits kek

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2448618>>2448622

>>2448564
Exactly. Moids get to have their retarded waifu yandere 16 year old fox demon with a box cutter slop and women get the moral police called on them when they have a fantasy that is even slightly edgy.

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2448619

>>2448615
In this current social climate we can't reach this because we either have to do fat and horrendously hideous cartoon horsegirls or we have to do uber cutesy and petite cartoon horsegirls. This sort of philosophy has led nations to their end.

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2448622>>2448640

>>2448618
Where did anybody say that? I said I don't like such plots, that's my personal taste, it's not the thought police lol

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2448624

>>2448331
ngl i want what they have so damn bad

LaurDébutant
No. 2448640>>2448672

>>2448622
It's a pretty common take on social media. I was going off on a tangent using a general statement, not talking about your tastes specifically

trad4himLumineux
No. 2448672>>2448679>>2448711

>>2448640
I hate that stupid take, I wish women would stop policing each other over their fantasies in general. It's like you're either an abuse apologist or a pearl clutcher to them.

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2448678

>>2448329
>>2448331
None of the people who draw AJ like this have ever met a Southern farm/horse girl IRL and it shows. Yes, they're muscular and don't mind getting dirty, but they also tend to conform to conventional beauty standards.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldMerveilleux
No. 2448679

>>2448672
I don't think it's so persecuted when 50 shades of gray became mainstream, booktok is a thing, Colleen Hoover is mainstream etc.
Maybe zoomers are having breakdowns on twitter, but there's straight omegaverse being written and published

crabbyDébutant
No. 2448706>>2448716

>>2448525
by passive do you want screaming kicking retorting badass? There's being cardboard and there's dealing with situations in different ways. have you played nightshade, birushana, cupid parasite, bustafellows, even if tempest?

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2448711>>2448728

>>2448672
there's consuming a work with kidnapping and then the couple fall in love or whatnot and enjoying that and moving on, then there's obsessing over those characters for years. Why brainrot over them

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2448716>>2448724>>2448757

File (hide): 1742231508151.jpg (35.18 KB, 900x313, GlYIlGpXwAAtWu3.jpg)

>>2448706
Got any recs for games where the MC is taking the lead in romantic situations and one of the love interests is kind of shy?

frill thrillSans Pareil
No. 2448724

>>2448716
Does she have to take the lead all the time? Or just she not have to be receiving all the advances all the time?
The first thing that comes to mind is Olympia Soiree Riku and Tokisada routes.
And if you really look at localized otome games, you can't clearly divide who's more receptive and who's more assertive in the relationship

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2448728>>2448733

>>2448711
What a weird stance. Why brainrot over anything

trollcowLumineux
No. 2448733>>2448741>>2448748

>>2448728
I'm saying what good does it do you to brainrot over "toxic" tropes when real life men are already shit.

crabbySans Pareil
No. 2448741>>2448752

>>2448733
Idk, it's just fun. It's like how watching an apocalypse movie is fun even though I don't want my country to be destroyed irl and feel bad for people who have had to live through similar scenarios. Real men look and act nothing like 2d bishies anyways, the two could not be more separate in my mind.

SoapPropagandistMerveilleux
No. 2448748>>2448752

>>2448733
The difference is that these aren’t real men, are hotter and can be moulded to your liking. Why is this so hard to understand

ashley jankowskiDébutant
No. 2448752>>2448754

>>2448748
>>2448741
Yeah that's why you enjoy it and move on. Some people don't do that and are diehard fan for years after the fact

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2448754>>2448756

>>2448752
>Liking something I don't is only acceptable to me if you stop enjoying it after x amount of time passes

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2448756

>>2448754
I enjoy those tropes too no matter how much time passes. I'm just not going to buy all the merch for it and constantly make fanart.

novemberMerveilleux
No. 2448757>>2448765>>2448776>>2448836

File (hide): 1742233614077.jpg (68.42 KB, 680x386, 4342432.jpg)

>>2448716
nta but also Hibari the mc from Variable Barricade, shes a bitchy tsundere ojou sama, which ironically makes it a very controversial otoge, people either love it or hate.

weenusLumineux
No. 2448765

>>2448757
I just hate it because the common route sucked and tried to make her out to be the bad guy

weenusMerveilleux
No. 2448775

>>2447733
Doesn't the mc end up making a bunch of clone copies of himself and giving them out to anybody who wants him while he goes back to earth?

Astarion_is_walledSans Pareil
No. 2448776>>2448783

>>2448757
I recall JP Amazon reviews shitting on the game because of her kek. Maybe I'm the weird one but I don't have an issue self-inserting or relating to MCs that act nothing like me, so I found the complaints silly.

fujo-to-tif-piplineDébutant
No. 2448783

>>2448776
This thread keeps making me think of that Always Sunny skit with "women hate seeing other women in movies"

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2448788>>2448791

>>2447547
I was gonna click on this video and watch it, but saw her pfp and stopped. I haven't watched a single video from but I can already tell she's obnoxious

Mutiliated MenLumineux
No. 2448791>>2448795>>2448800>>2448808>>2448810>>2448832>>2449135

File (hide): 1742234964528.png (1.75 MB, 1310x817, firefox_7DArpOnZxL.png)

>>2448788
Oh nonnie, you don't even know
My favourite was when she comissioned art of herself as a fat futa giving penis birth to gigguk
or was it the other way around? Either way someone posted it on /w/

straight-with-extra-stepsLumineux
No. 2448795

>>2448791
I know this gets thrown around a lot but she is the final boss of pickmeism

imSkirbeseSans Pareil
No. 2448800>>2448921

>>2448791
oh wait I found it KEK
>>>/w/219477

keksMerveilleux
No. 2448808

>>2448791
>day with bradio
They make good music tbh.

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2448810>>2448832

File (hide): 1742235777361.png (1.93 MB, 1276x666, 1654982068103.png)

>>2448791
nta but another funny and horrid fact she also showed this porn to her own mother too

NullSans Pareil
No. 2448817

>>2443527
is it really though?

its givingDébutant
No. 2448832>>2448838

>>2448791
>>2448810
Why does a conventionally attractive woman act like this for failed males?

trollcowLumineux
No. 2448836

>>2448757
I love her and I love how much she makes JP players seethe. Those doormats can have their hundreds of Liliana clones.

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2448837>>2448852>>2448854

>>2443762
Who is that pink haired guy?

Kirby_is_GNCDébutant
No. 2448838

>>2448832
attention. Its honestly sad because no straight woman likes male coom shit in a genuine sense. Maybe if she was a lesbian i would get it. But liking soulless coomshit as a straight woman is 100% for male attention.

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2448852>>2448858

File (hide): 1742238509334.jpeg (110.67 KB, 880x1116, FMBNTPRVUAMJejJ.jpeg)

>>2448837
Kohaku Oukawa

trad4himMerveilleux
No. 2448854


Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2448858>>2448895>>2448902

>>2448852
Who's the artist? saucenao is not working

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2448895>>2448902

>>2448858
I saved that pic in 2022 according to my files… I'll do some digging but if I cant find who then I'm sorry

Skelly-ArmMerveilleux
No. 2448902


sageMerveilleux
No. 2448921>>2448966

>>2448800
Christ that’s gross, only thing I’ve seen come near that is a namefag girl on 4chan commissioned art of her getting raped by a horse.

bratgasmMerveilleux
No. 2448966>>2449447

>>2448921
Oh yeah, gyaruoftheday/Poyo

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2449127>>2449130>>2449143

>>2447815
>>2448097
I say this as a mega fujo, otomefags who want male MCs in otome are yumes and not fujos because BL games are an entirely different game and I fucking hate it so much that people think just swapping the MC's gender makes it a fujo game. BL isn't about (you) level self insertion and it has never been

kakaLumineux
No. 2449130>>2449142>>2449180

>>2449127
Anon, are you missing the whole uguufication of ukes? Where the ukes are obviously serving as the self insert for girls? Some fujos see it that way lol

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2449131>>2449173>>2449470

File (hide): 1742244914123.jpg (Spoiler Image,99.33 KB, 600x488, 740245-f2d9b.jpg)

Danganronpa women getting coomer bunny girl figures while the moids get boring generic slop figures is probably one of the best examples I've seen of a work treating its female fans like subhumans. I'm not a DR fan at all but I feel bad for the women into it

Submas Goes In The Image FieldDébutant
No. 2449135

>>2448791
She has that JustPearlyThings&Chaya Raichik kind of ultra pickme phenotype, it's uncanny.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2449142>>2449152>>2449167

>>2449130
So are all heterosexual ships about self insertion too? Otome is about literally a tabula rasa, barely on-screen MC meant to be (you) interacting with the boy you want to date, not a romance between two standalone characters.

Mutiliated MenLumineux
No. 2449143>>2449152>>2449165>>2449186

File (hide): 1742245116108.webp (Spoiler Image,202.01 KB, 662x815, img_aoba_01.webp)

>>2449127
This. In BLVNs the uke is obviously its own character with a personality. Bl ukes even get figures and merch, something you dont see generic mary sue otome protagonists get because the point of them is to serve as a self insert for players, not to be an actual character.(fujosperg outside containment)

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2449152>>2449160

>>2449142
I think you're being ridiculous if you think all people see a piece of fiction and consume it the same way. Some people self-insert, some are obsessed with a character or ship.
>Otome is about literally a tabula rasa, barely on-screen MC meant to be (you) interacting with the boy you want to date, not a romance between two standalone characters.
At least stop talking about a genre you obviously never read.
>>2449143
>something you dont see generic mary sue otome protagonists get because the point of them is to serve as a self insert for players, not to be an actual character
This feels like underage baiting from an NLOG fujo who just discovered dmmd

novemberSans Pareil
No. 2449160>>2449170>>2449186

>>2449152
are you really trying to imply generic mary sues are actually very deep and complex characters? topkek

Skelly-ArmDébutant
No. 2449165>>2449175>>2449203

File (hide): 1742245671518.jpg (611.86 KB, 700x989, IZDL-YPCKJ.jpg)

>>2449143
>something you dont see generic mary sue otome protagonists get
Otome protagonists get plenty of merch, regardless of whether they're seen as simply a self-insert or a character by the player.

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2449167

>>2449142
A lot of otome games are like this but a lot aren't. Most otome protagonists have at least some kind of established character of their own.

sageSans Pareil
No. 2449170

>>2449160
I'm saying you have no clue what you're talking about by saying every MC in a genre is a Mary Sue when people treat them as separate characters and draw fanart of them.

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2449173>>2449458

>>2449131
Tbf, that's not really on Danganronpa as it is on figures, figures for everything focus on female coomshit while male characters get nothing, the reply is always "well women actually don't like figures. They're happier with shitty keychains and cheap acrylic stands."

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2449175>>2449179

>>2449165
but do they get sexualized merch?

straight-with-extra-stepsMerveilleux
No. 2449179>>2449180

>>2449175
Why would a straight female fanbase buy sexualized figures of a female character??

Vegan_PrincessSans Pareil
No. 2449180>>2449187

>>2449179
well according to >>2449130 ukes in blvns and otome protagonists are the same thing so(fujosperg outside containment)

landmine-himeLumineux
No. 2449186>>2449191>>2449363

>>2449143
you have no idea what you're talking about
>>2449160
I go to otome for good female characters but sure keep thinking BL is superior and supporting the misogynistic battle shounen slop that makes you hate women

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2449187>>2449193

>>2449180
They aren't the same thing, you're just too retarded to understand that some fujos self-insert into BL while also liking the BL character. It's why some fujos draw the one getting penetrated with more feminine features and step away from canon, a trope as old as "kakyoin did you lay that egg".

weegeewifeMerveilleux
No. 2449191>>2449200

>>2449186
I have no idea what you are talking about. I play BLVNS because i like to stare at 2 hot men instead of one. Also otomes are too flowery and cute for my taste.

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2449193

>>2449187
sureee its because of that and not because women just like cute submissive men. Ofcourse it cant be that, women can only like tall roidpigs who abuse them and put them in doggy cages.(fujosperg outside containment)

sageDébutant
No. 2449194>>2449210

File (hide): 1742246316807.gif (62.51 KB, 220x190, Notthisshitagain.gif)

The gacha talk was less annoying.

novemberSans Pareil
No. 2449198>>2449201

I'm so not like other girls, I like dark and edgy VNs by nitro+ and I hate the color pink.

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2449200>>2449203

>>2449191
Then just say that instead of saying otome MC's are generic self inserts

Kirby_is_GNCLumineux
No. 2449201>>2449207>>2449213

>>2449198
>nooo you cant dislike otomes disliking otomes means you are an nlog you must like the big tall roidpigs who put the mc into cages

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2449203>>2449221

>>2449200
They are though. This thing >>2449165 looks as generic as you can get. Next you are going to tell me kirito is actually a deep and complex character.

novemberDébutant
No. 2449205>>2449217

Can we just agree to disagree on otome and blvns? It's like no one can let people enjoy things anymore.

kakaDébutant
No. 2449207>>2449420

>>2449201
I'm glad most otomes don't actually have roidpigs except maybe that fag from birushana kek

novemberLumineux
No. 2449210>>2449327>>2449403>>2449538

File (hide): 1742246648347.gif (974.4 KB, 540x304, fuck my stupid baka life.gif)

>>2449194
The BL/Otome sperg remains in an eternal time loop. We're going to experience it again, and again, and again.

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2449213>>2449226>>2449420

>>2449201
>all otome are flowery and cute!
>all otome MCs are mary sues!
>all the males are roidpigs who put the mc into cages!
Literally read this thread for examples of different otome games before making yourself look like an even bigger idiot.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2449217

>>2449205
I'm fine with people enjoying whatever they want, but it's stupid to make assumptions about an entire varied group of fans of a piece of media. Also anon sounds like she only played 3 localized VNs on steam kek.

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2449221>>2449226


landmine-himeDébutant
No. 2449222>>2449227

These arguments are even funnier when you play both otome and BL.

straight-with-extra-stepsSans Pareil
No. 2449226>>2449228>>2449229

>>2449213
>>2449221
funny how its only making assumptions and 'bait' when is someone shitting on your beloved otomeshit but when its a otomefag calling all fujos self inserters its not, hmmm(bait)

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2449227

>>2449222
This is true. I especially like when retards come in and are wrong about both of them kek

BlowjobsAreForPigsLumineux
No. 2449228>>2449232

>>2449226
Absolute retard
>you're just too retarded to understand that SOME fujos self-insert into BL while also liking the BL character

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2449229

>>2449226
Who gives a shit retard, i'm not even the same person. No wonder people keep making the same tired arguments against you fujospergs. Have fun yelling at nothing though

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2449232>>2449239

>>2449228
>keeps making assumptions
ok then i will keep making assumptions about your shit genre of vnslop for beckies

CerbminOwner
No. 2449237>>2449238>>2449240>>2449253>>2449260

File (hide): 1742247358261.jpg (193.7 KB, 2048x2048, 1741978974928.jpg)

The fujotranny internalised misogyny meme is so real.(fujosperging outside of containment)

kakaLumineux
No. 2449238>>2449612

File (hide): 1742247400345.png (194.58 KB, 1440x1442, 1742143145295.png)


imSkirbeseMerveilleux
No. 2449239>>2449242

>>2449232
Damn chill. You don't need to get mad that other women don't enjoy men fucking each other in the ass

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2449240>>2449243>>2449261

>>2449237
>petite skinny whorish Asian girl mocking tall and boyish dark-skinned girl
The racism of it all too.

kakaLumineux
No. 2449242>>2449251

>>2449239
you are the one seething when i called generic self inserts boring and bland, is it because since you self insert as them you take it personally?

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2449243

>>2449240
ambigiously brown mind you

trad4himDébutant
No. 2449251>>2449257

>>2449242
It's okay to admit that you've never played an otome game

trollcowLumineux
No. 2449253

>>2449237
Source of this picture?

trollcowLumineux
No. 2449257

>>2449251
i aint playing something with a generic self insert at make them cool or interesting

elfearsMerveilleux
No. 2449260>>2449457

>>2449237
the way this artist draws the human body has always irked me. always ugly stiff posed and weirdly enlongated torsos

Kirby_is_GNCLumineux
No. 2449261>>2449265>>2449296

>>2449240
https://x.com/lacryboy
Enter at your own discretion. Her and that one fat black girl with an incel OC are the final bosses of pickmes, holy shit I hate TIFs

Kirby_is_GNCLumineux
No. 2449265

>>2449261
I've known about Lacryboy since the Dano era but it's fucking disgusting to see her retweeting mossa's lolishit.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2449296

>>2449261
>that one fat black girl with an incel OC
I think it's a different artist?

manmoder shoulderhonMerveilleux
No. 2449327

File (hide): 1742250535528.png (23.19 KB, 340x248, 1732162272874.png)

>>2449210
why cant we all just get along and sing kumbayah

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2449363>>2449452>>2449673

>>2449186
>shitting on shounenslop but defending otomeslop
Neither of those genres have good writing. If the authors were talented they would be writing something else

imSkirbeseMerveilleux
No. 2449403

>>2449210
I don't understand why we have to have spergouts over fujos and otomes all the time as a mega fujo, why can't we just accept each other as nerdy women?

Vegan_PrincessLumineux
No. 2449420

>>2449207
>>2449213
Yea know what, I'm tired of all this roidpig bitch slinging when not a single muscled men shown here feel like they're on roids.

Regards.Débutant
No. 2449447

>>2448966
Yep that's her. I wonder if she's still active?

ex-farmhandDébutant
No. 2449452

>>2449363
Anything is better than shounenslop.
josei > seinen > shoujo > moebuta >>>>>>>>>>>> shounenshit

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2449457

File (hide): 1742255568544.jpg (Spoiler Image,75.77 KB, 382x551, 1000020709.jpg)

>>2449260
mhm. she draws male characters like slenderman is always the reference.

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2449458>>2449506

>>2449173
The figure industry is pretty misogynist in general, the only scale figures I can think of specifically for women are
>Nitro chiral characters (including touken ranbu)
>Ten count figures
>Ikemen batman series
>Twisted wonderland figures
>Free figures
>And a couple of male fate characters here and there
Compare this to figures for men coming out every single week and the only cast off figures being the nitro chiral and ten count ones.

sageMerveilleux
No. 2449470>>2449490

>>2449131
Generally speaking, its so fucking telling that moids have a monopoly on figurines when women have proved for decades that they buy a shitton of physical merch and arent afraid to stretch their wallet for it. Japan the Land of Cucks obviously ignores that and gives moids their figurine paradise while making women settle for the same acrylic cheap shit

its givingMerveilleux
No. 2449490>>2449491>>2449493>>2449499>>2449550

File (hide): 1742257007209.jpeg (Spoiler Image,77.84 KB, 900x1200, 4153420.jpeg)

>>2449470
And then 99% of the time the figures designed by women are pic rel…

NullDébutant
No. 2449491

>>2449490
I just know Addy has this figure in her coomllection.

kys bishitsDébutant
No. 2449493>>2449501>>2449706

>>2449490
Ugh the details and color scheme are so cute. I wish it wasn't so. Well. Coomery.

Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2449499>>2449501

>>2449490
This was NOT designed by a woman

Submas Goes In The Image FieldMerveilleux
No. 2449501>>2449506>>2449546

File (hide): 1742257596308.jpg (73.47 KB, 600x900, 1942151-1016f.jpg)

>>2449493
Every now and then they design figures of female characters that go pretty heavy on the female gaze, but I wouldn't say it's terribly common.
>>2449499
The artist who drew the original illustration (yuyuco) is a woman.

CerbminOwner
No. 2449506>>2449514

>>2449501
Still a pickme whore but ultimately the sculptor is a male so I can't be too assblasted
>>2449458
On the brightside, there's a Nu Carnival castoff figure coming soon

trollcowLumineux
No. 2449514>>2450416

File (hide): 1742258015605.png (8.75 MB, 2569x3631, 27912322abbcc611ec3c2af523cac1…)

>>2449506
>Still a pickme whore
That's the thing with a lot of modern female moe artists, their stuff is basically indistinguishable from the stuff being put out by men, compare this to 2000s moe where some of it was pretty obviously drawn by women.

straight-with-extra-stepsMerveilleux
No. 2449532>>2449674

i am 1000000% not an otomefag i think yume culture is cringe but i get sick of everyone having an opinion on lads. for me my public opinion is always i love seeing women have fun with it. it's not for me. i am never going to play it. but i come across a yume drooling across sylus or whatever and i smile. i come across some they/them aspec lesbian whining about the models being creepy or not understanding cis women obsession over it because it's weird and i want to launch through the screen and beat her ass. why are you so critical? go bitch about snowbreak or blue archive or any other "highschool girl" raising sim men have. sick of it genuinely

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2449538

>>2449210
Subaru is so cute

fuck_fujoshitsSans Pareil
No. 2449546>>2449556>>2449557

File (hide): 1742259213907.jpg (162.88 KB, 736x1525, 3a1c40d165b2a51c5505d11bc5dae5…)

>>2449501
thanks for reminding me about this artist (yogisya), i love her work. funny how generic moe art is harder to distinguish but this style is instantly clockable as being drawn by a woman

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2449550

>>2449490
You could easily make a bingo chart of pick me chicks who buy this shit
>Nekopara figures
>Tapestries by this specific artist everywhere
>My little pony (specifically G4)
>a couple of super degenerate figures of lolis or anime girls with watermelon tits getting raped by tentacles
>A bunch of pink and sanrio stuff so you know that she's a girl
>usually a self admitted ageplayer

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2449556

File (hide): 1742259475853.png (2.39 MB, 2000x1620, I like the cogimyun boy she dr…)

>>2449546
A lot of women into touhou have that instantly recognizable flowy feminine art style while with guys it's either coom or super simplified chibis.

rottenbeardSans Pareil
No. 2449557

>>2449546
Maybe it's a bit too generalizing to say, but I feel like male artists are particularly incestuous when it comes to their resources. Nowadays it's just regurgitating gravure models, porn, anime, and vtubers. The outfits are disgustingly artificial, beyond just the coomer shit.

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2449569>>2449582>>2449633>>2449641

File (hide): 1742259828272.png (75.61 KB, 590x577, fatrep.PNG)

That's because it isn't meant to be "representation."

LaurLumineux
No. 2449575>>2449613

File (hide): 1742260026410.jpg (2.54 MB, 1893x4096, Applause.E.Randolph.full.42491…)

Continuing the otomesperg but if you guys are interested on non-doormat mcs, Mistonia no Kibou is getting localized soon and the mc Applause is a stoic serious maid (who is actually a noblewoman who lost everything planning to kill some of the LIs).

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2449582

>>2449569
Do you think fatasses realize that bitchy whining like this only makes non-fatasses even less inclined to include fat representation?

Submas Goes In The Image FieldMerveilleux
No. 2449589

File (hide): 1742260639110.png (1.9 MB, 1080x1489, usagi swimsuit.png)

>>2449585
To be fair it is weird when in shows like sailor moon they're constantly going on about how Usagi is a fatass when she looks like this

ex-farmhandSans Pareil
No. 2449612

>>2449238
this is kinda hot

keksSans Pareil
No. 2449613

>>2449575
Neat, she sounds cool and most of the guys seem cute.

trollcowSans Pareil
No. 2449619>>2449651

Bro wants the tumblr gendie good boy points so bad

novemberSans Pareil
No. 2449633>>2449647

>>2449569
>in anime
There's her problem. Japan isn't an obese country. If she wants to see fatasses, she should watch burger or bong TV shows. Or I guess she could watch sumo wrestling if it's gotta be Japanese.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2449641

>>2449569
They dont realize 'fat' characters in anime only exist to be fetish bait not for inclusion. These are the retards that think pochaco exists to be body positivity representation.

Kirby_is_GNCMerveilleux
No. 2449647>>2450312

>>2449633
Japan also isn't a country where 99% of the women don't have boobs bigger than a B cup but you don't see that stopping anime kek.

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2449651>>2449653

>>2449619
this guy narrating the video just gives me major cluster B vibes i cant explain it. like he probably brings up being diddled as a kid when youve known him for a day and punches walls and cries when he gets mad in a video game

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2449653

>>2449651
It's the over sensitive personality, you just know he rages at family guy.

CerbminOwner
No. 2449673

>>2449363
Go play otome games that are actually good then lmao. Nothing balances good romance with interesting tropes with character development and a decent plot like otomes IMO.

pooty pooty tang tangMerveilleux
No. 2449674

>>2449532
yume=/=otomefaggotry lol. Some of us are diehard shippers

Astarion_is_walledLumineux
No. 2449682>>2449704

File (hide): 1742265271575.png (2.77 MB, 1608x1414, fuckthisshittjiewrokf.PNG)

>VN that features a tranny character admits that he can never be a girl
>comments: "OMG MUH REPRESENTATION!!!"
Lol then does that mean you lot will finally admit you aren't women

elfearsSans Pareil
No. 2449704>>2450079

>>2449682
Reminds me of this guy who's entire channel is finding niche fetish VNs and saying that they're totally deep and validating trans rep

weenusLumineux
No. 2449706

>>2449493
Agree ugh. The matching rabbit hairpins and rabbit socks with the legwarmers are so cute. But it being a coomery pose with the character looking like she's 12 ruins it.

kakaMerveilleux
No. 2449726>>2449729>>2449733>>2449736>>2449742>>2449744>>2449745>>2450233>>2450283>>2450635

File (hide): 1742269109422.png (36.45 KB, 594x352, thinkofthetroons.PNG)

Not trying to start anything, but why aren't there yuri games by women for women? Is it too niche?

kys bishitsLumineux
No. 2449729

>>2449726
i think Hanako Games was started by a lesbian/bisexual woman but I never looked too hard into it. anyways they do have some yuri routes in their games iirc. i also wished they'd gotten more popular years ago.

sageLumineux
No. 2449733

File (hide): 1742269758309.gif (23.74 KB, 220x178, club-penguin-cleaning.gif)

>>2449726
handmaiden backtracking on the wrongthink real quick lol

straight-with-extra-stepsSans Pareil
No. 2449736>>2449742

File (hide): 1742269866714.png (687.44 KB, 1024x576, flowers-shiki.png)

>>2449726
Probably because there's not a big difference between yuri for men and yuri for women (I'm genuinely not sure what audience flowers was made for), compare this to BL and bara where they might as well be from separate universes.

manmoder shoulderhonLumineux
No. 2449742>>2449764>>2449771

File (hide): 1742270297671.jpg (128.21 KB, 1904x1003, ASummersEndHKOpImg-e1587717043…)

>>2449726
>why aren't there yuri games by women for women?
Why are fujosharts always so quick to claim something about yuri that's not true? You're a fucking Google away from not embarrassing yourself like the ball gargling retards you all fucking are.

>>2449736
FLOWERS has a female writer but it's clearly meant for both sexes. It's something pretty common in media where yuri is not specially popular with just a single sex like in videogames and anime, so the producers need to pander to both. This is in part why I stopped reading YH series, even though those fuckers never had a problem with revenue they decided they needed to have more male audience to increase the sales so they started shitting out garbage stories despite the authors being female. I hate manga editors so much they deserve an eternity burning in hell.(fujosperging)

straight-with-extra-stepsMerveilleux
No. 2449744>>2449761

>>2449726
There's just not that many lesbians/bi women out there - it's not a demographic that makes any money so pretty much all yuri games outside of very niche passion projects have to keep moid tastes in mind if they want to sell. Which in my opinion as a lesbian ruins most of them kek.

Regards.Lumineux
No. 2449745>>2449752>>2449772>>2449964

>>2449726
why should otome have yuri routes? it makes more sense to have a male mc the fujos can ship with the guys than a yuri route. Yuritroons already get tons of VNs and animu.

BlowjobsAreForPigsMerveilleux
No. 2449752

File (hide): 1742270630513.png (2.14 MB, 1656x640, otome with yuri routes.png)

>>2449745
>why should otome have yuri routes?
There are some

CerbminOwner
No. 2449761>>2449797

>>2449744
Not true, Korean and Chinese yuri are made with a female audience in mind and they're extremely popular with lesbians, bisexuals, fakebians, gendies, etc. The pandering to scrotes is a JP thing because boomer moids control the already established publishers and editors are retarded and out of touch with their readerbase. Korean and Chinese works are mostly web self-published and from there a reputable publisher might pick it up. In Japan this isn't common (though it's getting there), the most common way of self-publishing is through doujinshi and they don't make any money out of it in most cases, very few doujinshi end up making a proper serialization. Even then there are many women that constantly pump out yuri doujins for GLFest and Comiket, but they are physical works so they might not be scanned, and much less translated. I follow like a gorillion lesbians that make yuri doujins in twitter, it's just impossible to get hold of their works outside Japan because they only print them for events.

its givingMerveilleux
No. 2449764>>2449773

>>2449742
No one even mentioned fujos you wacko. Jesus Christ some anons act like fujoshis live in their walls

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2449771>>2451094

>>2449742
The funny thing about Yuri Hime is that they once created a sister magazine just for moid yuri called Yuri Hime S and it flopped so hard its only popular series had to be saved by publishing it in the main magazine. Meanwhile they went on to successfully publish like 10 volumes of Yuri Hime Wildrose which was a female-oriented smut publication. Despite this they have been pushing for more male readers in the main magazine since 2018 and the whole thing became Kirara electric boogaloo while Comic CUNE is the one publishing actual yuri works (even though it's supposed to be a moeshit magazine). I just feel bad for the female mangaka trapped at Yuri Hime right now. No wonder Kuzushiro published a lesbian conversion manga out of spite after falling out from that turd magazine and never did actual yuri ever again. Funny thing back in 2007 Yuri Hime boasted a 70% female readership, now it's only 48% plus some gendies.

trollcowDébutant
No. 2449772>>2449775

>>2449745
I'd much rather have a yuri route than a male mc

imSkirbeseDébutant
No. 2449773

>>2449764
You're literally replying to yuripedo. Report and ignore.

kakaMerveilleux
No. 2449775>>2449778>>2449788>>2449883>>2450200

File (hide): 1742272541458.png (614.85 KB, 1330x678, they just putting everything i…)

>>2449772
Why not both

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2449778>>2449783

>>2449775
This has demonic energy

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2449783

>>2449778
This VN is gonna solve infighting forever just watch

ex-farmhandLumineux
No. 2449788

>>2449775
Evil and vile.

keksSans Pareil
No. 2449797

>>2449761
That's interesting, I need to broaden my tastes into Korean and Chinese stuff. I was initially just thinking of games but for manga I also follow a lot of female yuri and lesbian yume artists on twitter, and yeah it's a shame how many good doujin only get published physically and never get scanned because they're so niche.

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2449883>>2449885

>>2449775
Okay but
>yaoi it up with some dudes
is an incredibly hilarious group of words

Submas Goes In The Image FieldDébutant
No. 2449885

>>2449883
They got the description from some woman's blog review so it tracks.
https://breadmasterlee.com/2011/09/02/otome-game-review-double-reaction-plus/

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2449886>>2449909

File (hide): 1742282583890.jpg (655.12 KB, 944x1239, 1732180547878.jpg)

Moids who get mad at "ship bait" in gacha games and demand that all characters just be waifus that worship their self-insert MC enrage me because I feel like stories in media are literally defined by the relationships between the characters. They are defined by the complex feelings that characters can feel towards other characters, whether that be love, hate, jealousy, admiration, etc. I feel like when all characters are just waifus that love you for no reason, it takes something away from the story. Makes it bland and boring and forgettable. Shipping is so important in fandoms because it is essentially the exploration of the dynamic and relationship between two characters. It feels like it goes deeper than just romance.

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2449909>>2451031>>2451080

File (hide): 1742284343618.jpg (54.41 KB, 736x776, 1ba7f6ab4f0d5780a4e28e3f3626e6…)

>>2449886
Reminded me of this (not really into ships like this though)

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2449910>>2449912>>2449913>>2449914>>2449974>>2449982>>2449999>>2450114>>2450233>>2450698

File (hide): 1742284354163.png (2.32 MB, 752x5018, IMG_3529.png)

So, texas is making it a felony to own drawn and fictional csa material and lolicons (both right and left) are freaking out, claiming this is a blow against freedom. even fujos are worried and complaining because it will affect their yaoi, meanwhile normal decent people are celebrating

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2449912>>2449917

>>2449910
It's pretty hilarious that texas is banning this when most child pageants are in texas.

Mutiliated MenSans Pareil
No. 2449913

>>2449910
Can state laws even go against the constitution?

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2449914>>2449918>>2449925>>2449926>>2449997>>2450298

>>2449910
does it only affect animme? if so thats weird. Ofcourse they wouldnt want to affect the big hollywood pedos, god forbid ''classics'' like leon the professional and pretty baby are seen as anything but masterpieces.

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2449917>>2449919

>>2449912
>child pageants
They hate having to compete with fictional children!

pooty pooty tang tangMerveilleux
No. 2449918>>2449920>>2449997

>>2449914
Are they going to stop the trade of old Playboy/Hustler issues too? Those had legit pedo stuff in them.

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2449919


Submas Goes In The Image FieldMerveilleux
No. 2449920>>2449925>>2449997

>>2449918
Its weird it only applies to 2D. No talk about banning irl porn that replicates csem, or movies that feature the sexualization of children. It feels very fake.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2449925>>2449933

File (hide): 1742285221316.png (153.24 KB, 1134x637, moids who make anti molestatio…)

>>2449914
>>2449920
All I'm sayin is…

Regards.Sans Pareil
No. 2449926

>>2449914
Actually, I do wonder if hentai anime/manga having their own sites completely seperate from Pornhub makes a difference.
The less competition, the better right?

Depressed_In_BucharestMerveilleux
No. 2449933>>2449937

>>2449925
yeah it honestly screams moids with skeletons in their closet. You know if the law makers were women they would ban all depictions of sexualization of children, that includes movies, 'teen' and 'barely legal' porn. The top category in porn sites its still 'teen'.

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2449937>>2449939

>>2449933
Not to get on the side of lolicons but they're usually correct that other scrotes who go heavy on the 'anti lolicon' brigade turn out to also be pedophiles.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWLumineux
No. 2449939>>2449948

>>2449937
because all men are pedophiles tbh, no other reason than them throwing other pedos who they deem less worthy under the buse to look better to society. All those law guys most than likely have younger wives who shave and value youth in women more than intelligence. Men are socialized to be pedos.

its givingDébutant
No. 2449948>>2449958

>>2449939
This is something pedophiles say or blackpill. If literally all males were pedophiles, we would have exterminated them centuries ago or still be living in the bronze age. Retarded males like to make pedophilia seem as prevalent as possible bc they want to see it normalized and remove their own personal shame about their pedophilia. The reality is that if every male were a pedophile, it already would be normalized and "Nigels" wouldn't exist. Some anons have been married or have relatives who are disgusted by pedophilia. I feel bad for women who think this bc they are so common that it's possible to have this belief on an anecdotal level and be totally truthful. Women keep breeding out brutal child rapists, they started with the most obvious ones (neandtheral-types) and now they're removing the covert/sneaky ones too. Moids have this fantasy of becoming the middle east but they hate that culture too bc it isn't technologically advanced, so they'd rather just get angry that we find them repulsive and then die off

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2449954

defending moids that hard wont make them like you, if you are old enough to post here most men wont pick you

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2449957>>2449966

>>2449953
I'm not "defending" them anon, it's a numbers thing. Like being born with a tail or a third nipple. There are actually a few anomalies, just bc there would be in any species. It has nothing to do with my feelings and I have no intention or desire to date any moid, since the risk of them being a pedophile is too high (obviously)

crabbyMerveilleux
No. 2449958>>2449961

File (hide): 1742287063979.png (Spoiler Image,360.68 KB, 350x466, Molested_cartoon.png)

How funny they never touched home-grown child pornographers even though they had decades to do it. Playboy was peddling kiddie porn since its very inception and well into the 80s. See https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/7420.html#38758

>>2449948
>we would have exterminated them
Who is we? Your weak pickme ass? Afghanistan or another shithole where children can be legally raped at 9 was the norm until very recently. I'm not even a blackpiller, but you should stop living in delusions about 'noble human nature'.

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2449961>>2449985

>>2449958
Afghanistan is a living example of "the bronze age" anon

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2449964

>>2449745
I got into a conversation with some Korean otome fans before and the topic of male MCs and female love interests came up. The opinion was that they opposed male MCs (for the obvious reason) but accepted FF routes in otome games because it would still be female-centric. Playing a female character (self-insert or established character) is incredibly important to women playing otome games, even if they are fujos.

trad4himDébutant
No. 2449966

>>2449957
men literally force women to base their entire self worth on how youthful they look. You are lying if you dont see how pedoshit is already normalized when women are expected to be fully shaved while men arent. Stop defending men. Pedophilia was also super normal in ancient civilizations and the legal age of consent in most countries used to be 12yo until women rioted and changed. If women hadnt fought for their rights to not be child sex slaves men would still marry little girls.

novemberSans Pareil
No. 2449974

>>2449910
the seething in this is great, suffer pedofags based texas for once.

Skelly-ArmLumineux
No. 2449982>>2449992

>>2449910
neither the people crying or the people cheering have actually read the bill.

rottenbeardSans Pareil
No. 2449985>>2450021

File (hide): 1742289383699.jpg (43.26 KB, 1252x110, d.jpg)

>>2449961
That must mean 80% of the world lives in the Bronze Age according to you. That some places rose above that is an unheard of aberration.

BlowjobsAreForPigsMerveilleux
No. 2449992>>2450016>>2450197

>>2449982
i have and id say they shouldve made it more stronger

Regards.Débutant
No. 2449997>>2450002

>>2449914
>>2449918
>>2449920
this specific bill is part of a broader porn ban and will effect anything that has csa, real or fictional

landmine-himeSans Pareil
No. 2449999>>2450006>>2450642

>>2449910
>As detailed by Dexerto in a recent report, Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick has announced that the unanimous passing of Senate Bill 20, Stopping Artificial Intelligence (AI) Generated Child Pornography, by Sen. Pete Flores, R-Pleasanton. If signed into law, this would create a new felony offense for possessing or promoting material depicting a child under 18 years old “regardless of whether the depiction is an image of an actual child, a cartoon or animation, or an image created using an artificial intelligence application or other computer software.”

>The broad scope of the description here should be something of note to anime and manga fans as the “cartoon or animation” has a rather open description for what could fall under this new bill. As it describes, “A person commits an offense if the person knowingly possesses, accesses with intent to view, or promotes obscene visual material containing a depiction that appears to be of a child younger than 18 years of age engaging in activities described by Section 43.21(a)(1)(B), regardless of whether the depiction is an image of an actual child, a cartoon or animation, or an image created using an artificial intelligence application or other computer software.”

>Unfortunately for many anime and manga projects, series often depict adolescent or characters younger than 18 in what could be seen as “obscene” situations. It’s likely going to be a case by case basis as this potential bill (or law) develops in the future, but this could lead to a much larger ban of materials in the state due to some content. Just think of breakout hits like Kill la Kill, The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You, and other series that wear their obscenity on their sleeves.

fujo-to-tif-piplineSans Pareil
No. 2450002

>>2449997
No? you can read it, its only for fictional depiction of children. Nowhere does it say that they will ban videos of adult porn stars pretending to be children, evne though there are FBI studies proving that they can lead to molestation of children.

ex-farmhandDébutant
No. 2450006>>2450010

File (hide): 1742291836522.jpg (285.17 KB, 1270x1920, 5.jpg)

>>2449999
>100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You
Guess the mc is gonna have to have another talk with the big cheese.

Depressed_In_BucharestSans Pareil
No. 2450010>>2450015>>2450207

File (hide): 1742292126091.png (119.6 KB, 482x198, ayukawacig.png)

>>2450006
kek how is japan okay with lolis but not with this? i noticed a lot of 80s anime are more mature, showing teens smoking, talking about condoms and going to night clubs. Kimagure Orange road feels so chad and ground breaking next to the virgin ''we can show little girls underwear but no smoking or swearing or beer pls'' modern harem slop

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2450015

>>2450010
Tbf, the joke is that they have an alcohol episode anyway and call it "drinking juice and pretending real hard".
Guess that and the "this isn't a cigarette, it's a super lollipop" is the equivalent to "400 yo loli/nbr incest".

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2450016

>>2449992
the bill is adding a section into an existing law, so you'd have to look at that existing law for the full context. it's only targeting "indistinguishably" real depictions of CSAM, even if they don't exist, because of AI.
no one is taking away anime, because how would you even enforce that.

crabbyLumineux
No. 2450021>>2450023>>2450025

>>2449985
Nta but yes. Anywhere that is not Europe, North America or Australia is a shithole.

trollcowLumineux
No. 2450023

>>2450021
>australia
australia is a shithole, the scrotes there are demons

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2450025

>>2450021
Europe had still does animal and child brothels

elfearsSans Pareil
No. 2450068>>2450070

File (hide): 1742298946546.jpeg (529.25 KB, 1179x1174, IMG_4494.jpeg)

LGBT degenerates will say something like this wholeheartedly then wonder why the narrative is shifting into thinking all of them are child predators kek(bait)

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2450070>>2450095

>>2450068
Isn't the whole law for depictions of children..

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2450079

>>2449704
I think this faggot is from Cleveland. I hope he goes down glenville or kinsman and gets his fucking teeth knocked out

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2450095

>>2450070
>Isn't the whole law for depictions of children..
yup, this has nothing to do with lgb whatever the fuck the sperg is saying its pedofiles pedowashing a toothless anti pedo law, most of which are men. Twitter fag pedofile men and autopedofile women are pedowashing this bill, but in their defense even media outlets are too shit scared or pedofilia is so heavily normalized and expected in anime that they're ambiguously reporting this bill in headlines as a "ban of anime" as if zany jojo's bizarre adventure is being banned and not a ban of minor depictions.

>"A person commits an offense if the person knowingly possesses, accesses with intent to view, or promotes obscene visual material containing a depiction that appears to be of a child younger than 18 years of age engaging in activities described by Section 43.21(a)(1)(B), regardless of whether the depiction is an image of an actual child, a cartoon or animation, or an image created using an artificial intelligence application or other computer software."

trollcowMerveilleux
No. 2450114>>2450216

>>2449910
Can't you just lie about age as anime pedophile types have done for 70 years or so with 5000 year old vampire toddlers? How does "appears 18 or younger" even work in practice? People have already said in this thread its incredibly retarded since real child porn is circulated in the form of "the classics" masterpieces of cinema to the average moid, child pageants and lots of porn old and new exists which depicts women under the age of 18. Its all performative nonsense espoused by roleplaying "conservative" pedo moids, but its better than nothing and makes pedos seethe.

Maybe one day real child porn will be outlawed in some way, even if ineffective which could stigmatize child predatory behavior again, and porn sites will be restricted somewhat to only showing adult women degraded, beaten, raped and humiliated. One can only dream of a world with the barest of human decency towards women and girls.

elfearsMerveilleux
No. 2450185>>2450187>>2450339

File (hide): 1742305425113.png (107.85 KB, 751x497, firefox_sSFqgrLPFO.png)

I can't believe I'm saying this, but 4chan got even more incel core than before, now these newfags are posting pics of their hands in video game threads and spouting random misogyny. You used to at least get banned for offtopic

SoapPropagandistSans Pareil
No. 2450187

>>2450185
>I-I-I'm sorry for being brown /pol/tard-samas, please forgive me and let me grovel at your feet!!
Their gay eunuch pickmeism is actually repulsive.

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2450197>>2450212

>>2449992
>more stronger
Intelligence of the average Lolcor user

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2450200

>>2449775
This is so funny, I'm tempted to play it just to see how bad it is

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2450206>>2450266

File (hide): 1742306622225.png (52.67 KB, 1830x157, Screenshot 2025-03-17.png)

thirdie nonna's, how true is this?

bratgasmSans Pareil
No. 2450207

>>2450010
There's money to be made, basically. There isn't much economic incentive to have fiction where teenagers get drunk, but there are hoards of creepy men out there who will spend all their disposable income on sexual content of underage girls. This industry was allowed to develop in the first place because Japan has a deeply misogynistic culture. Superficial propriety is more important to them than treating half of the population fairly, basically. That's why having a blunt in your pocket guarantees prison time, but child molesters and CP hoarders get a slap on the wrist. Cultures that don't respect women also don't take rape seriously, even when it involves children.

landmine-himeLumineux
No. 2450212

>>2450197
Not everyone's native language is English.

weenusMerveilleux
No. 2450216>>2450218>>2450231>>2450265

>>2450114
I also want to know how the hell they'll enforce this. I know that the UK has a similar anti-drawn-CP law. If any bong nonas can weigh in on how their government enforces that, I'd be curious to hear it.

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2450218

>>2450216
I don't think that law is enforced NEARLY as much as media would have you believe. Like, there was some manga stocked at my secondary school with underage panty shots and fanservice (Soul Eater being one of them) and afaik nothing ever happened.

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2450231

>>2450216
The same way they deal with people who watch real cp; fuck all.
Unless you consider a suspended sentence, community work, 5 years on a register and attending a rehabilitation course to be an adequate response.

all whores will dieLumineux
No. 2450233

>>2449726
>why no yuri games by women for women? Is it too niche?
yes. compare /m/'s yuri thread to the yaoi one or all of /g/. most yuri for actual women are korean or chinese or thai novels and webtoons which are pretty awesome btw. i wish there was a name for yuri by and for women (like bara), but troons would instantly invade and bara usually has a unique art style
>>2449910
How would they even enforce this? I ship characters who are canonically 17 and I'm not a pedo

Vegan_PrincessLumineux
No. 2450265

>>2450216
It'll probably be just an extra charge tacked on to someone that already has child porn, now they'll also get charged with loli

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2450266>>2450285

>>2450206
im not soviet so i dont how true for soviet nonas it is but for us other thirdies it certainly was not all rainbows when it was america itself ruining and bombing us but despite all that i still loved American female media (since we werent exposed to women independence that much) so these women kind of became women you'd aspire to be, working or strong or creative(especially the action flicks and disney shows with women mcs) , there was a optimism to american media in the early 2000s with egalitarian or the american dream of rags to riches and the freedom of speech (which was propaganda) but now? theyre seen as vapid and racist Narcs who would destroy everything just because they want to.

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2450283>>2450337>>2450344>>2450498>>2450686

>>2449726
When did this push for "inclusiveness" for Otome even come from? Otome is an escapist genre for women—otome literally means maiden.

And why Otome of all things? Do you see girls pestering Bishoujo-loving moids to "p-please put cute boys in your VNs for us…!" in their Katawa Shoujo/Everlasting Summer rip-offs?

That, and the genre of customizable protagonist with love interests of the same sex already exists. Baldur's Gate, Started Valley, that Fire Emblem game with the toothpaste protagonist hello?? Go there??

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2450285>>2450633

>>2450266
I'm the nonna who posted it, and I'm actually south-american. america literally installed a dictator in my country to remove the socialists and communists and my country became a corrupt, unstable mess. I share the same perspective as you, american media (at least in the '90s and 2000s) did have impact on us, but for those who grew up and realized the world we live in, that love is gone

NullMerveilleux
No. 2450298>>2450303>>2450333

>>2449914
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but it's not the lolifag owning bill everyone thinks it is, nor is it coming for the fujos, it's a law preventing people from making AI child pornography in the purest sense of the word, a la deepfakes generated from porn of real minors. The way the initial tweet was worded was to farm engagement from the usual sheeple who argue about this shit endlessly.

pooty pooty tang tangMerveilleux
No. 2450303

>>2450298
disgusted by the potential loophole moids creating such AI images by stating the image is not of a "real person" (ignoring the fact it needs a "model" to base off of) which required this law in the first place. TRAs who say that a rapist wouldn't take the extra effort to be a rapist seriously undermine the lengths a degen scrote would go to continuously please their deranged fantasies, I will not be surprised if many of the leading developers of AI-generated imagery are pedophiles

weenusSans Pareil
No. 2450312>>2450346

>>2449647
Big anime titties are a by-product of the importation of western porno mags in the 70s and 80s. Before then Japanese men generally preferred small breasts and "youthful" girls aka lolis. Early adopters were even made fun of and accused of having Oedipus complexes. Reality need not apply when it comes to scrote porn obsession.

novemberLumineux
No. 2450333>>2450346

>>2450298
its strange isnt it whenever a bill is proposed or passed to ban drawn cp these masses always point to the whole of anime being banned? they never cry that adult western animation would be banned just anime because (the style is ambiguous!) i dont buy its because they want to pwotect le poor pedo nipponese but because they dont want to admit how much of anime is full of pedoshit so much so entire "sfw" genres are in the threshold of being banned, they sperg so noone can call out their bullshit

Skelly-ArmMerveilleux
No. 2450337>>2450394>>2450612>>2450686

>>2450283
>When did this push for "inclusiveness" for Otome even come from?
Other women, usually TIFs, "NBs", or women sympathetic of them, and gay men.
>And why Otome of all things?
They are attracted to men and Otome happens to be the bigger genre to provide that.
>Baldur's Gate, Started Valley, that Fire Emblem game with the toothpaste protagonist hello??
TBF those are just games with romance mechanics in it, not even good ones, not really comparable to otome or galgames. In the west "Amare" games exists (basically LBGT games or otome games where the devs just slap a pronouns/gender option) but isn't wide spread and disregarded entirely on places like VNDB.

novemberDébutant
No. 2450339>>2450498

File (hide): 1742314128595.png (34.9 KB, 1843x123, gfgbtfx.png)

>>2450185
>/hsrg/
Kek I was lurking on the same thread but hasn't that place always been like this? They seethe over male characters and women that play hsr, especially fujos, in every single thread. I do not even like to visit that general, but the thread on /m/ has been dead for ages so I kind of have no choice.

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2450344

>>2450283
Because they know the vast majority of socially conservative Japanese companies won't humor troonshit outside of fetishistic porn. Otome, compared to VNs for scrotes, tends to focus more on story and romance for its escapism, rather than sexual conquest fantasies. Even NSFW otome aren't nearly as porny as the male-demographic counterparts. Under the Moon and DiaLovers are some of the 'darkest' non-indie otome and they're both weaksauce compared to anything out of companies like ClockUP or Nitro+ and DiaLovers isn't even NSFW. NBs and TIFs want to go on adventures with the imaginary ikemen too while having their pronouns and male pussies respected.

Depressed_In_BucharestSans Pareil
No. 2450346>>2450378>>2450633

>>2450312
>Before then Japanese men generally preferred small breasts and "youthful" girls aka lolis
Young men preferring young women is normal, but women is the keyword. Women are allowed to have small breasts without it being "loli". Minky Momo saw the initial rise of the lolicon subculture, much to the disgust of the creators, but future magical girl animes would take note of this and subtly pander in ways that didn't matter on the surface, but likely subliminally groomed a lot of young girls into being okay with pedophilia.
>>2450333
There's no way it's coming for anime because we've reached a point where the west is integral to the money going into the anime industry. If you need proof of this, look at how Hololive hardly even introduces Japanese talents anymore, and even when they did, they made sure to get one who was also fluent in English. The dubbing industry is quite large, simulcasts are the norm, anime is everywhere you go now, every other strip mall in a suburb of a major US city has some store that doubles on anime and k-pop merch with lolicon figures dotting the shelves. We're in too deep, if they get rid of anime then they get rid of a lot of jobs, and there's too much pedoshit in anime to just pass this bill without getting rid of anime.

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2450378>>2450396

>>2450346
>Young men preferring young women is normal, but women is the keyword. Women are allowed to have small breasts without it being "loli"
I was specifically referring to mangaka and the men who produced porn, not the average teen or young man. I never said anything about real women with small breasts. This is about fiction. Lolicon predated Minky Momo by at least a decade, she just started another boom. The initial one was in the 70s, but pedoshit has always existed in Japanese sex culture. The anime heroines and lust objects today are still just as underaged, they just have big balloon boobs slapped on them now.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWMerveilleux
No. 2450394

>>2450337
Gay moids aren't pushing for this shit, kek. It's all TiFs. Fags don't play otome games, they just look at porn where some twink gets gangbanged by a bunch of hairy middle-aged men.

Depressed_In_BucharestMerveilleux
No. 2450396>>2450474

>>2450378
>I never said anything about real women with small breasts. This is about fiction.
And I'm saying the line needs to be less blurred when it comes to drawn depictions of women with small breasts. Anything below a C cup seems to make people think it's pedophilia. I'm saying this as someone with small breasts and a skinny frame btw, sometimes I wonder if it's just fatties calling anything small a loli. This is why a bill trying to outlaw loli will never work in practice, because any woman below the age of 35 has the exact same face in anime and high schoolers often look more voluptuous and curvy than the average OL.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldDébutant
No. 2450416>>2450444>>2450452>>2450460>>2450619>>2450633

File (hide): 1742317026433.webp (83.41 KB, 1024x730, Sayori.(Personification).1024.…)

>>2449514
Sayori (the illustrator behind Nekopara) is such a mystery to me, is she a lesbian with shit moid taste or a straight pickme? because i remember her drawing girls since the dawn of her career, it was all touhou at the time and when she does draw men they're hideous. but all she's been doing recently is drawing moe catgirls getting dicked in disgusting ways and her artstyle's getting moidier and moidier, idk what's her deal but it's fascinating

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2450444>>2450460>>2450466

>>2450416
I looked her up a bit dome time ago out of nostalgia (loved her punk pieces of chocola/vanilla back in 2009) and looka like she has been doing porny art of the cat girls since back then, so it's not new. In a way I'm impressed by her because she even sculpts some of the Nekopara figures that come out herself, she's honestly talented. But she's a mystery to me as well, do we know if she's married or something?

weenusMerveilleux
No. 2450452>>2450619

File (hide): 1742318261709.jpg (54.13 KB, 600x427, shiratama.jpg)

>>2450416
Considering her art has gotten moidier and moidier, it was probably for the money, honestly. And power to her, she's probably the richest modern day eroge dev. I think the artist who is probably the biggest mystery to me is Shiratama, I thought she was a man for the longest time and was genuinely shocked to learn she's a woman, but on second thought, her innocent art feels far too sexually devoid so it makes sense. Aoki Ume, aka the Madoka Magica character designer also did lolicon eroge art back in the day, so maybe it's just being a gen x female otaku in 2000s japan, idk.

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2450460>>2450471

>>2450416
>>2450444
Imagine dedicating your time and talent for coombux. Pathetic, honestly.

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2450466>>2450473>>2450481>>2450509>>2450677

File (hide): 1742318679829.jpg (Spoiler Image,80.52 KB, 850x600, __sayori_original_drawn_by_say…)

>>2450444
She even drew porn of herself. And yeah, she's married

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWMerveilleux
No. 2450471

>>2450460
>t. perma ngmi

sageSans Pareil
No. 2450473>>2450481>>2450491

>>2450466
ultra pickme holy shit

its givingLumineux
No. 2450474>>2450475>>2450493

>>2450396
>im also built like a uguu loli thats why i dont think lolishit should be outlawed
if its in an anime you bet its lolishit noone asked what your body type was

elfearsLumineux
No. 2450475>>2450483

>>2450474
Is it common for anime fags to say they enjoy loli bc they have a "loli body" or is that just one gross retard?

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2450481

>>2450466
>>2450473
I hate seeing the male body so something like this is pretty hot to me though.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

novemberLumineux
No. 2450483

>>2450475
its common in pedopandering animecore fags they also assume all japanese women are like little girls with no breasts at all.

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2450491

>>2450473
pick me final boss

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWDébutant
No. 2450493>>2450501

>>2450474
No you retard, I'm saying that because I've been harassed by losers for drawing women with bigger tits than me when I wasn't even thinking of loli in the slightest and was actually trying to draw the character looking voluptuous.

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2450498

>>2450283
>Baldur's Gate, Started Valley, that Fire Emblem game with the toothpaste protagonist hello?? Go there??
I saw a good rant on the lack of popularity of 'dating games' in the west, and it mostly came down to these games being mentioned and that the audience wants a fully fleshed out game with dating mechanics attached rather than a romance VN. A lot of the girls that played these moved on to Love and Deepspace, so there's also a demand for high quality and not tumblr 2d sprites, but very few moid studios would make that risk.

>>2450339
I don't usually browse the hoyo threads because they move too fast (I'm more on /jp/ and smaller game threads), but it's really bad, like 10x worse than the FGO threads 8 years ago, especially now that there's 3 big games competing. Then there's the Blue Archive "galge" fags shitposting in other threads how every game is inferior if it's not strictly female characters and coom lol
I'm also surprised how there's still a twst general on /vg/ but that's probably because the game has more gay man bait than LADS lol

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2450501>>2450511

>>2450493
>I've been harassed by losers for drawing women with bigger tits than me
oh really? do elaborate more on how these big titted (who im sure are all fatties) "losers" harassed a poor no tits like you?, because im sure this is a totally real scenario that happened and doesnt sound made up at all(baiting)

straight-with-extra-stepsMerveilleux
No. 2450509

File (hide): 1742320689441.png (1.26 MB, 1280x720, 1280px-15thCountdown2.png)

>>2450466
Meanwhile there's Annin Doufu who's also only been drawing girls but lately she had a kid and has been mostly lowkey, never tapped into full moid territory despite drawing for a more fanservice franchise rather than shoujo
It's interesting to see

fuck_fujoshitsMerveilleux
No. 2450511>>2450526

>>2450501
If your best argument is "yeah that happened" then you have no argument. Anyone who has been in fandom for the past few years can tell you that people are going too far with their moralfagging and leaping to harass people over made up problems. Btw put down the fork, you really seem to be honing in on that part for it not to be personal.

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2450526>>2450533

File (hide): 1742321416643.jpg (270.39 KB, 843x592, 1731742209013.jpg)

>>2450511
>um aktually this is totally a normal occurrence guiz i mean who else doesnt get harassed for drawing big titted coomer bait (did you know i have small breasts just letting you know again)? am i right
youre right, i am definitely one of those fattie boogeymen you keep thinking about schizo anachan(baiting)

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2450533

>>2450526
I never said it was coomer bait, I was saying I designed the character to have big breasts, also a thing that can exist separate from sexualization. You're the one who needs to take your meds, I never even said lolishit is good, I said it would be extremely difficult to properly outlaw because definitions vary and I was using my own experiences as an example, yet you're bpd schizoing out right now over a massive projection and trying to start infights over it.

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2450573>>2450610>>2450613>>2450691>>2451741>>2451749>>2451779

Do you guys block anyone with a troon flag on sight or is that too obvious?

trollcowSans Pareil
No. 2450610

>>2450573
I only block ddlgers

BlowjobsAreForPigsDébutant
No. 2450612>>2450614

>>2450337
Some female geeks really need to realize that there's nothing wrong making a genre solely for them and them only. They're not evil exclusionist misandrists if they are.

I have a feeling this masochistic push for "inclusivness" (aka moids and trannies) comes from feeling excluded from male geek spaces—the stereotype of the fake geek girl or ethot gamer—they project that hurt onto others and feel that if they don't open up whatever niche they have to everyone else (whether it's Lolita fashion or Nikki) then they're just like those male nerds who looked down on them for being a femaaaaaaleeee.

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2450613

>>2450573
I mostly block kids, "sex repulsed" asexuals and maga supporters but any troon that so much as encroaches my comment section gets the block.

NullLumineux
No. 2450614>>2450625

>>2450612
Most of the times I see it it's about "punishing" average feminine straight women under the guise of being "inclusive".

fujo-to-tif-piplineLumineux
No. 2450619

>>2450416
>>2450452
I don't think it's rocket science. These women probably genuinely like cute shit and only do the gross porn stuff for the ¥¥¥.

I mean, if I had Sayori's rendermaxxing skills I'd definitely do what she's doing (except the lolishit ofc). My brain got poisoned by early hentai anyway and I'm pretty sure it's the same for them too. Probably.

sageMerveilleux
No. 2450625>>2450645

>>2450614
>"Punishing"

Err how exactly?

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2450633

File (hide): 1742326679698.jpg (Spoiler Image,73.68 KB, 670x458, DxxODCMVAAEmV_7.jpg)

>>2450285
Nicaragua?
>>2450346
>future magical girl animes would take note of this and subtly pander in ways that didn't matter on the surface, but likely subliminally groomed a lot of young girls into being okay with pedophilia
I think this is why rewatching Sailor Moon felt so insidious to me, especially after I became a radfem. The main protags are girls in skimpy outfits while the love interest is 18 while Usagi is 14 (though this wasn't the case in the original manga) and there are pantyshots of a physically 9 year old girl.
>>2450416
Fun fact: Nekopara wouldn't exist if not for Rance. She based Vanilla and Chocola off La Hawzel and Saizel from Rance because she liked the concept of identical twins with opposite personalities so much she decided to make an eroge about it. With all of this in mind she's probably a pickme

crabbyDébutant
No. 2450635>>2450637

>>2449726
yurifags should make their own otome games. i'm not interested in eating their fishy pussies(baiting)

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2450637

>>2450635
It's already been established up thread that otome with yuri routes exist though.

ex-farmhandDébutant
No. 2450642>>2450673

>>2449999
but this sounds like its only against AI images?

imSkirbeseMerveilleux
No. 2450645

>>2450625
Punishing is in quotation marks because it's fandom drama bullshit, how zoomers on twitter fling shit at each other. It's like when you don't like something, but instead of just saying "I don't like it" you look for a "valid" reason to fling shit at it.

For example, let's say an artist only draws straight ship art of a character that has a wide fanbase. If the artist openly says "I'm not interested in drawing gay ships" they might get spammed with "omg x is homophobic" and people gleefully jump onto that because they didn't like the artist in the first place. It happens often in the Arcane fandom, kek.

So my point is, some people aren't motivated to actually have trans and male protagonists in female oriented games, sometimes they just want to complain for not reason.

SoapPropagandistLumineux
No. 2450673

>>2450642
It's not, the title is misleading

Skelly-ArmMerveilleux
No. 2450677

>>2450466
Guarantee you she looks nothing like this irl

WhiteGlovianDébutant
No. 2450686

>>2450283
>>2450337
Speaking of Fire Emblem, I like that the character designer for 3H is famous for working on Utapri and the one for Awakening and Fates worked on a sfw otome game later despite being famous for No More Heroes of all things. And you mentioned the most recent game of the series with the ugliest characters made by a vtuber artist and a localization that made several of the romantic scenes strictly platonic.

weenusMerveilleux
No. 2450691

>>2450573
Yes, same with people on twitter with their real names and faces, and the ones with made up pronouns in their bio. Or mismatched pronouns that imply they're trans.

WhiteGlovianMerveilleux
No. 2450698>>2450781

>>2449910
I can tell none of you actually read the bill,weebs really deserve nothing

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2450781

>>2450698
>Make bill dedicated to fighting the "it's just a drawing" final boss of AI generated csem
>Retards make this yet into another anime based fiction vs reality debate
Sometimes you just gotta leave the kids to play with their toys.

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2451031

>>2449909
What I'm saying is that

>moid self-inserters

cringe, annoying
>Shipping enjoyers
poets, physicists, playwrights, engineers, those with discerning taste in wine and architecture

Skelly-ArmMerveilleux
No. 2451080>>2451110>>2451240

>>2449909
I knew somebody who's solution to a love triangle was to make them lesbians. Not to explore anything meaningful, since knowing them, It would've been owo hecking wholesome slop.

fuck_fujoshitsMerveilleux
No. 2451094

>>2449771
>No wonder Kuzushiro published a lesbian conversion manga
Fucking ew

SoapPropagandistLumineux
No. 2451110>>2451118

File (hide): 1742350170047.png (672.3 KB, 1280x720, haven't even seen avatar but I…)

>>2451080
It's just the most boring option for a ship in my opinion. Whether it's yuri, BL or het it's so fucking uncreative.

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2451118>>2451124

>>2451110
I used to see women rooting for this on reddit a lot but maybe they were troons

manmoder shoulderhonSans Pareil
No. 2451124>>2451128>>2451130>>2451225

File (hide): 1742350640902.png (882.17 KB, 728x1002, a10da31557ba91b93e80a9e8003243…)

>>2451118
I do see a lot of women into that 'yurify everything' shit lately (I have nothing against yuri but taking obvious vent art from teenage girls and making it moeblob yuri is annoying)
Only thing worse is when they end up as sister wives who make out with each other.

trad4himLumineux
No. 2451128>>2451130>>2451137

File (hide): 1742350914961.png (429.97 KB, 547x715, 3u2s5g0b0ioe1.png)

>>2451124
Like it's pretty telling that the only gay male fanart you see of this is obvious joke art of the chad and the virgin.(fujosperging)

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2451130>>2451133>>2451148>>2451240

>>2451128
>>2451124
this always pisses me off, two women arent allowed to hate each other. im not even into fandom but its unavoidable on twitter, whether its fanart of the substance or my little pony or porn of a racist comic where you make the white n black girl make out. its gross as fuck and gives a heyday to pornsick men who want to be lesbian, while being annoying as fuck for anyone whos actually female

Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2451133>>2451138>>2451146>>2451183

File (hide): 1742351397310.png (311.21 KB, 500x735, d36.png)

>>2451130
When it first started out with creamsicle it was clearly drawn in a tongue in cheek way by lesbians but you can tell all of it now is just troons kek.

Ashton_WintersDébutant
No. 2451137

>>2451128
Hate this tranny’s art so much

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2451138

>>2451133
No offense but this also looks like it was created by a troon, with really bad autism

Kirby_is_GNCSans Pareil
No. 2451146>>2451147>>2451151>>2451160

File (hide): 1742352004819.jpg (7.92 KB, 275x183, images (11).jpg)

>>2451133
Kek I remember these drawings, I always understood where the criticism of them (and memes) came from. However at the same time I always saw them as girls just feeling ostracized from other women for not conforming to femininity, it was much less annoying than the NLOGs we have now because it was usually just teenage girls doing it. It was all undeniably cringe though. I always loved the lesbian art of those comics

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2451147

>>2451146
samefag but for clarification the one in picrel was made as a joke

bratgasmMerveilleux
No. 2451148

>>2451130
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY CAN'T SHITTY NLOG HEADCANONS HATE EACH OTHER LIKE I DO WOMEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fujos need to be put down.(fujo sperging outside of containment)

Submas Goes In The Image FieldSans Pareil
No. 2451151

File (hide): 1742352311146.jpg (65.75 KB, 640x828, 6k2y96osq56a1.jpg)

>>2451146
Agreed. I definitely get where the criticism of them comes from but a lot of them were pretty clearly just meant as vent art from girls who were getting bullied at school for being different and it turned into people bullying them on the internet for not conforming or being fetishbait for men.

its givingMerveilleux
No. 2451160>>2451165>>2451170>>2451175>>2451176>>2451188>>2451526>>2451660

File (hide): 1742352930319.jpg (159.9 KB, 960x960, 1000011104.jpg)

>>2451146
I don't like nlogs who try to appeal to men but I was an nlog because I was isolated from other girls irl as a child. It sucked. I hate comics like picrel. Bullying from other girls can be cruel and some girls are weird enough that nobody wants to be around them. The nlog turned yuri stuff seemed like an easy way to farm updoots on Reddit and now it appeals to troons.

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2451165

>>2451160
It's the type of comic that assumes it's the other girl who's at fault for not fitting in and being bullied (nooo the other girls are actually super nice and interested in the nerdy shit you're into!), if they grew up as a girl who GOT bullied they'd understand how horribly cruel girls can be to other girls who are outcasts.
It definitely tracks why it's so popular with troons, it fits their view of being a woman as being a never ending slumber party where everyone wears lingerie and makes out.

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2451170

>>2451160
I like your reply nona. Your picrel pissed me off when I first saw it because it never happens. Unless nlogs are pandering to scrotes, they’re usually girls who are on the spectrum, have weird interests, or are gay or whatever. It’s not their fault they get bullied, they’re not purposely pushing other women away. I hated how much girls got relentlessly bullied back then for simple things like not wearing makeup and feeling like an outcast , all under the guise of feminism. It’s gotten even worse now, if you try to express the fact you’re not feminine or that you don’t relate to other girls you get called a “pick-me”. How about we teach people not to make fun of girls for being different? that’d get rid of the actual NLOG problem.

weenusMerveilleux
No. 2451175>>2451178

>>2451160
This comic is perfect ragebait for me it gets me mad every time. So tone deaf.

rottenbeardMerveilleux
No. 2451176>>2451178

>>2451160
This shit is so unrealistic, I roll my eyes whenever I see this.

Astarion_is_walledMerveilleux
No. 2451178>>2451184>>2451191>>2451202

File (hide): 1742354043580.png (870.68 KB, 1192x798, 1678312887176.png)

>>2451175
>>2451176
Truly the edit is the accurate version.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2451183>>2451186

>>2451133
blogpost incoming I unfortunately really like yuri versions of the me vs other girls images because it reminds me of buried childhood memories when I seethed about the popular girls in elementary and drew them in my diary except i'd draw them in embarrassing situations like wearing kawaii clothing because "it wouldnt suit normies like them" and other shit im too embarrassed to say(blogposting)

fujo-to-tif-piplineDébutant
No. 2451184

>>2451178
Thank you for posting this, it was cathartic to read.

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2451186

>>2451183
That's cute.

Regards.Sans Pareil
No. 2451188>>2451191>>2451571

>>2451160
picrel is kinda funny because it's not actually about her realising that the women she sees as 'other' from her might still be worthwhile people or even share similarities with her, it's her passive ass getting drawn into a nice, friendly group that is like her– they're drawn in more casual/'non-feminine' clothes than those Other Girls, and just so happen to like things she likes. Girls and women who feel like they don't fit in with the average group of women around them and feel discomfort or distress about that aren't at fault, especially since they're usually pining for female friends who are like them, and yeah many of them get bullied and shamed for just being themselves. It's such a weird genre of dismissive comics/posts.

Tbh I hate the way the term NLOG is used to just put down any woman who tries to express this or is even just being herself and not talking about other women/their habits at all (I get what most people here use the term for, a very specific sort of personality/behaviour, but I see it elsewhere used for any woman expressing disconnect with other women or 'feminine things', even in discussions about fiction. It's just another way to dismiss and police women who might not socially conform in some way)

ashley jankowskiMerveilleux
No. 2451189

File (hide): 1742354840833.png (699.66 KB, 936x805, god the reply to the comic is …)

>Aw that's kinda cute
>Sees subject post

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWLumineux
No. 2451191>>2451200>>2451201>>2451202>>2451438

>>2451178
this hit too close to home, I remember other girls calling me a lesbian, saying my clothing smelled terrible, and daring each other to touch me.
>>2451188
I wish we could get more nuanced discussions or deceptions of isolated girls / women outside of the whole "I'm quirky but cute in a socially accepted way" or depictions that downplay female bullying. The best depiction I've seen so far is Lilo because she had issues and was genuinely weird. I also like how she wasn't cutesy or completely a victim either, she didn't read the room or integrate socially. It made her interesting.(blogposting)

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2451200>>2451205>>2451211>>2451215>>2451253

File (hide): 1742355368345.png (2.21 MB, 1920x1080, 3modo73nzs9a1.png)

>>2451191
Tomoko was kinda like this but then they just made it a generic CGDCT yuri manga

kakaMerveilleux
No. 2451201

>>2451191
There's welcome to the dollhouse. I don't recommend watching it if you are in a bad state of mind, not because it's bad but because it really fucked me up to watch it's very realistic and depressing. But it's probably the definitive anti-quirky girl outcast movie.

crabbyDébutant
No. 2451202

>>2451191
I AM a lesbian and girls would constantly play me (autist so I could never tell they were picking on me), would make me do favors for them like a pet whenever I thought I was making friends, just go up to me and say homophobic stuff, and they acted like I was a literal sex offender for existing and being weird. They'd treat me like a disease for simply not being into scrotes and being more masculine. After all of that I just said fuck it and did online school, best decision ever
>>2451178
Fuck this is so accurate(blogposting)

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWDébutant
No. 2451205

>>2451200
>but then they just made it a generic CGDCT yuri manga
Baste. Way better than the retarded gross incestshit.

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2451211

>>2451200
>yuri manga
this will always piss me off. The OVA where an autistic chuuni falls in love with her was peak and the manga should have gone the ''socially akwards nerds fall in love'' route rather than the yuritroon route.

WhiteGlovianLumineux
No. 2451215

File (hide): 1742357044922.webp (45.71 KB, 973x328, C1C84E1B-7102-4E89-92A9-2B8013…)

>>2451200
Early Tomoko is so painfully relatable.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2451225

>>2451124
An uncle and his nieces. I'm not joking, Google it.

Vegan_PrincessSans Pareil
No. 2451240>>2451245

>>2451080
>>2451130
straight women love to jokingly yurify things because they see it as wholesome libfem love wins! girl power! don't pit women against women! jokes while the men who do it are being nasty creeps and it's pathetic. "these girls who are fighting are kissing now" is funny, once. if you do it every time there's any conflict between two drawn female characters, then it's just objectification for men/troons and the women who play along and draw this shit without realizing are fucking dumb.

ashley jankowskiDébutant
No. 2451245

>>2451240
I find lib-fem women would rather ruin a space than admit some women just don't get along with each other and never will. Whenever they have control of anything, people lose interest and stop showing up

its givingDébutant
No. 2451253>>2451283>>2452031

>>2451200
Kek I haven't read Watamote in forever but this made me remember seething at the shift to it being a harem years ago when I was a loser teenager who related a lot to Tomoko. At first I didn't mind it because I was a lesbian and thought it was cool that they were girls, but eventually I got jealous of this fictional character because I couldn't relate to her now that she had a bunch of pretty girls crushing on her and wasn't so much of a rude bitter loner anymore (yes I'm aware this was retarded I was like 16). That aside I liked how early Tomoko was sort of unlikable, a lot of depictions of isolated girls make them entirely sympathetic and so endearing (basically just shy in an uwu way) that it doesn't even feel believable that they would have no friends. Tomoko being legitimately cringey and weird and coping by becoming bitter and judgmental of other people felt a lot more real even if a lot of stuff was exaggerated.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2451283>>2451290

>>2451253
i hate when people like you are so confidently wrong about things and then base your opinion on an incorrect ass.

novemberMerveilleux
No. 2451290

>>2451283
nta but I've read through it and that nonna isn't offbase, I remember dropping it after I realized it became a very generic, uh, platonic harem manga with Tomoko being much more like a Mary Sue. cute, though not my thing. what do you like about the later parts of the manga?

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2451438>>2452031

>>2451191
How did this get banned for blogposting? It's like one sentence and the rest is about a form of media. I wish jannies would be this ruthless when the yume vs fujo spergfest flames up again or yuripedo starts having a chimpout moment. inb4 redtexted for "take it to /meta/" you guys never reply in those threads.

Kirby_is_GNCLumineux
No. 2451440>>2451503>>2451506

File (hide): 1742378056729.png (264.62 KB, 790x786, firefox_38TdYj820F.png)

This is fucking hilarious, I hope she breaks up with him, files for a refund and gets the account banned.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmIOverreacting/comments/1jem774/aio_my_fiance_spent_600_on_gacha/

Mutiliated MenDébutant
No. 2451503

>>2451440
i dont feel bad for her. Imagine working 55 hours a week while your man does uber from time to time if he feels like it. She probably is funding her own engagement and wedding. My friend was dating a guy like this. He was 10K in debt off of League of Legends. Idk how but he was and she was still sucking him off. The reason why men get to do shit like this is because they have women around that enable their behavior or find it cute (my bf wont cheat on me hes too busy playing vidya games uwu) ..until it isnt anymore and you are funding his incel lifestyle while giving him all the benefits of a healthy relationship. Dont date men in fandom spaces. Only befriend women who are in fandom spaces. Men in fandom are a red flag. They take it too far and ruin not only their lives but the women around them. Women in fandom who take it too far more often than not only harm themselves.

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2451506

>>2451440
prime example of why teaching men therapy language was a mistake.

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2451526>>2451552

>>2451160
This sends a really bad message. Especially to autistic girls who may be more naive because it's basically saying that if you just open yourself up to your bullies and be nice to them then they will magically accept you. That just makes them double down on it or become even crueler because they can tell you will put up with the poor treatment. Life isn't a Disney cartoon and there are plenty of rude vindictive people out there who just want to punch down. Being female doesn't change that

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2451552>>2451571>>2451649

>>2451526
Sorry but I don't see any bullying in the original comic? Only in the edit by a nonnie later. Girls with stereotypical feminine interests are not necessarily equal to bullies, such girls simply not actively befriending loners isn't bullying even if it's sad for the person involved. Ofc some of them will indeed be bullies but it's not the point of the comic, there is a lot of projecting going on in this thread.

sageDébutant
No. 2451571

>>2451552
NTA but the point was that in real life the situation rarely goes how the comic depicted. >>2451188 made a perfect breakdown of how this comic is an actual slap in the face for everyone who got ostracized by the average peers for being, literally, not like other girls.

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2451591>>2451597>>2451599>>2451605>>2451616>>2451654>>2451682>>2451837>>2451874

File (hide): 1742391219639.jpg (106.94 KB, 1000x1000, GmV9IIGa8AUbBTE.jpg)

The youngest zoomers already have fandom fatigue.

trad4himDébutant
No. 2451597

>>2451591
And all of things listed here is mediocre

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWLumineux
No. 2451599

>>2451591
I have never in my life heard of 1, 2 and 4. Project sekai fanbase is super woke, so this person is extra woke.

novemberDébutant
No. 2451605

>>2451591
They should stop engaging in children's game fandoms and read books, watch movies or play video games that aren't mobile slop.

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2451610>>2451614>>2451628>>2451631>>2452087

Does anyone else feel like fandoms go into drama over much more trivial and petty things because nowadays it's "forbidden" to simply call someone you don't like a fat ugly bitch?

its givingMerveilleux
No. 2451614

>>2451610
Yes. You see it on Lolcow too. People will come up with retarded moralizing reasons to hate cows when they clearly just want to be petty call them a fat ugly bitch.

imSkirbeseSans Pareil
No. 2451616>>2451617

>>2451591
of course they're going to feel 'fandom fatigue' from interacting with fanbases for media like this, there's so little going on to play around with that the only option is to re-chew the same crumbs or go schizo with fanon/theory posting and get into fights. Fandoms that have sizeable amounts of fans that stay in it for the long-haul (without being completely bonkers about it) are pretty much all for media that gives its fans something to actually work with, even just on a shipping standpoint, and without necessarily needing to directly engage with the fandom all the time (eg aside from play the game, what is there for the cookie run fans to enjoy on their own, without needing to engage with fandom spaces? I doubt there's much, and that what there is to turn over in their heads is shallow and dull without being able to make shit up about it and share it online or bounce off of other fans)

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2451617

>>2451616
100%. The best fandoms I've known have been the ones where people are genuinely invested in the property and it keeps giving them material to process, not just sugary crumbs you lick off the floor. Fandoms where the main point is interacting with equally vapid people creating personality cults to compensate for the lack of actual substance in the source media are bound to be exhausting.

fujo-to-tif-piplineMerveilleux
No. 2451628

>>2451610
Everyone has to pretend they're morally superior now. But once someone gets "exposed", for objectively valid reasons from the majority, then they unleash all the aggressive insults they've held in.
You can get away with saying stuff that was previously forbidden if the majority hates the person.

landmine-himeDébutant
No. 2451631

>>2451610
Calling them a fat ugly bitch is fatphobic in our lord and savior 2025, nonna. We have to write essays on way viziepop is satan instead of her writing and art style is medicore at best.

LaurDébutant
No. 2451649

>>2451552
I'm not automatically equating feminine girls to bullies but I doubt the girl in the comic would even focus so much on the disconnect from her peers to begin with unless she were being bullied or at least ostracized by someone, not just feminine girls. It's extremely common to be treated poorly by a wide range of people if you are gay, have autism, are poor, or are a nerd or tomboyish. Look at all the anons blogging ITT about how they were treated as an outcast. Posting comics like that basically telling people who are outcast for one reason or another to basically fawn at their unaccepting peers until someone treats them nicely in order to be accepted rather than facing the that sometimes you just won't get along and people can be cruel is pretty disingenuous

elfearsMerveilleux
No. 2451654>>2451658

>>2451591
Sprunki genuinely looks like the most tism thing possible

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2451658>>2451666

>>2451654
How did a game ripping off incredibox develop a fanbase?

elfearsDébutant
No. 2451660

>>2451160
The realistic version of this comic would be the same thing until the 5th panel, then the other girls start saying things like
>a pokemon tshirt? that's for kids, move on
>why are you dressed like THAT? ew what do you mean you never wear skirts or high heels? you're a girl, you should!
>haha you never talk to us, what's wrong with you? that's so weird, why do you never talk? is something wrong? you should talk to us more often! oh no we're not your friends though who would want that haha
>we were talking about the latest episode of that one reality tv show, wait what do you don't understand what we're talking about? you've never watched it? wtf, what's wrong with you?!
And the last panel would be these girls spreading rumors about the main one being retarded or being a pick me.

manmoder shoulderhonSans Pareil
No. 2451666>>2451679>>2451738>>2452031

>>2451658
I don’t know what incredibox is either, but to answer your question despite the obsession with ‘special interests’ a lot of autists pretty regularly switch them out for the newest colorful children or man children media
Just look at how popular welcome home was despite just being a web page with some quality art and super mild ‘horror’.

If you want a widespread audience all you really need are
>short enough runtime so that it’s not difficult for them to get into
>colorful imagery
>either be fully accessible to children or have adult themes only in the form of sex jokes or saying curse words rather than actual emotional intelligence
>a creepypasta monster
I think homestuck started this trend but I could be wrong

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2451679>>2451699

>>2451666
Wow, not a single one of these besides colors appeals to me. Maybe I'm just old, but I use to remember a time when kid's media was family friendly instead having to shove manchild references down our throats. Now these same people grew up–but haven't matured–and want to indoctrinate kids into their gendie cult via weird goofy kiddie stuff with a dark twist. God, I hate these people.

trad4himLumineux
No. 2451682>>2451687>>2451696>>2451697>>2451763

File (hide): 1742396742098.png (261.82 KB, 945x730, at least it's actually for you…)

>>2451591
>Youngest
The person who made this is 19 kek.

ex-farmhandLumineux
No. 2451687

>>2451682
is openly liking yarichin bitch club a good way to repeal annoying fandom zoomers or alphas now?

NullDébutant
No. 2451696

>>2451682
Do zoomers still hate yaribu?

weenusSans Pareil
No. 2451697>>2451706>>2456902

>>2451682
>The person who made this is 19 kek.
That means she was 4 or 5 years old when the series started. Just to put things into perspective, if yoy ever see this kind of opinions on popular or influencial series.

CerbminOwner
No. 2451699

>>2451679
I enjoy more colorful horror series (stuff like Higurashi is a particularly good example), but ones with you know actual substance to their stories and not just creepypasta monsters

elfearsDébutant
No. 2451701

18+ western fandoms are so nice because they filter all the fandom kiddies, especially when everyone is women in their 30s
I say western because anime style additionally baits moids and edgy teens.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldSans Pareil
No. 2451706

>>2451697
Nevermind I misread your post but that means she was either around 9 or 10 years old when the first chapter dropped so again, did her opinion ever matter?

NullSans Pareil
No. 2451738>>2451742

>>2451666
Isn't Homestuck incredibly long and difficult to get into ironically enough?

CerbminOwner
No. 2451741

>>2450573
I block
>Anyone with a troon flag who doesn’t follow me
>Anyone with troon HCs who doesn’t follow me
People who already follow me get muted because they would notice if they got blocked as long as they keep troonshit to themselves, so I can have plausible deniability. To prevent people from finding patterns and jumping on me for being a terf I also mass block
>Right wingers
>People who participate in socmed discourse (both sides of any issue)
>Anyone who self IDs as proship or anti
>Anyone who ships something I dislike/has headcanons I hate
>Anyone who badmouths my favorite series using its search term
>Coomer moids and shounenbros
>Anyone who mildly annoys me in general

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2451742>>2451744

>>2451738
>incredibly long
It’s not, you could easily read the entire thing in a day or over a weekend it’s just so boring that it seems long. Most people didn’t actually bother reading it though and just watched youtube videos.
I’ll say that it’s slightly better than what we see currently though in that sense though since you would have to dedicate more than 3 hours to the source material.
>difficult to get into
It probably is nowadays since flash is dead, but when homestuck was a big fandom the literal only requirement is that you’re able to read dull ass writing mixed with dull ass art because everything was free and hosted on one website. I think the vast majority of people just skipped to the part with the trolls and basically turned it into a ‘tag yourself’ system.

SoapPropagandistSans Pareil
No. 2451744>>2451745

>>2451742
Nona, Homestuck is 800k words… You might be the one who didn't really read it if you breezed through it in a day lol

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2451745>>2451747>>2451750

>>2451744
I never read all of homestuck, I’ve just heard of people reading it in that amount of time.
Why would I waste my time reading 800k of trash kek.

keksLumineux
No. 2451747>>2451748>>2451751

>>2451745
>People who participate in the actual fandom speedread through the source material
>People who come to this thread to talk about fandoms never even touched the source material
These two things explain a lot

its givingLumineux
No. 2451748

>>2451747
I like bitching about petty and vapid fandom drama, but this really summarized this thread.

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2451749

>>2450573
I'm very open about being a terf, so yes. I also block:
>"queers"
>rightoids
>thieltards
>engagement bait accounts
>homophobes/lesbophobes
>annoying people

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2451750>>2451755

>>2451745
Why do so many people ITT make inaccurate statements about things they know nothing about then act like they're above actually engaging with the media when nonas point out that they are wrong? It's getting so old.

rottenbeardSans Pareil
No. 2451751>>2451757>>2451806>>2451902

>>2451747
I read up to arc 5 and it was some of the worst writing I had ever seen, I can see why autists like it though
>characters are generic as hell but all cut from the same cloth so they’re easy to draw
>le quirky humor (BUCKETS HEHE)
>trolls just exist as shitty meme factories to project onto
>random edgy shit thrown in for good measure
It’s basically invader zim of the tumblr era.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2451755>>2451778>>2451796

>>2451750
What causes this kind of narcissistic behavior where people feel as though they must respond even though they don't know anything about the media? If you don't know anything, why reply at all?

manmoder shoulderhonMerveilleux
No. 2451757>>2451770

>>2451751
Sounds like pretty generic criticism someone would make up when they don't know anything about Homestuck, but ok. The bucket joke is the biggest tell since canonically it happens exactly once and people who don't read the comic and only engage with the fandom love to pretend it's regularly occurring Homestuck humor

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2451763

>>2451682
I'm one of the oldest zoomers and I'm 26. People in 2009 are approaching their late teens and that's about the cut off point, millenials are the new gen X-ers.

manmoder shoulderhonLumineux
No. 2451770>>2451806

>>2451757
Did you ever consider that the bucket joke became popular because the series itself is a bunch of shitty memes? Sometimes autists just latch onto one particular meme because it’s so wacky and le random.
>people who don't read the comic and only engage with the fandom love to pretend it's regularly occurring Homestuck humor
I already said that was a large portion of Homestuck’s fanbase. It was just pretty common for a while for people to get into fandoms so they could try and make friends. This was super common with bronies, lots of them didn’t watch the show and just regurgitated memes+R34.

Ashton_WintersDébutant
No. 2451778

>>2451755
Probably a weird combo of the social media-propagated idea that every random person's opinion is worth something and the newfag compulsion to spaz out and be a hater because they've never experienced anonymity online before so they want to get things out of their system

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2451779

>>2450573
i end up blocking most people and close the window after scrolling for 15 minutes because its not worth it. but i always block "lesbians" who only have kpoop or yaoi on their tl, annoying tifs who only post cuntboy slop, right/edgy moids who only troll, and male centered pickmes

Astarion_is_walledSans Pareil
No. 2451796

>>2451755
Dunning Kruger

CerbminOwner
No. 2451806>>2451829

>>2451770
>>2451751
>arc 5
Yeah you didn't actually read the comic

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2451829>>2451831

>>2451806
You know fucking what I meant

rottenbeardSans Pareil
No. 2451831>>2451845>>2451847

>>2451829
Kek yeah but it seems like a pretty significant fuckup for some who purports to have read the comic. The word "act" is used a shit-zillion times. It's like claiming to have read Moby Dick and fucking up the name of the boat.

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2451837>>2451840

>>2451591
I must be getting old, because I don't recognize any of these IPs besides Cookie Run

Anonymous GeneDébutant
No. 2451840>>2451847>>2451874

>>2451837
3 is roblox, you must have heard of it
6 is colorful stage, the hatsune miku mobile rhythm game

imSkirbeseMerveilleux
No. 2451845>>2452029

>>2451831
It’s been several years and I really don’t think it matters if I use arc instead of act for a shitty webcomic that super tismos liked over a decade ago.
It’s like giving a shit about people calling the chicken in fnaf a duck.

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2451847

>>2451831
Yeah, there's no way she even got past the intermission kek
>>2451840
Something about new vocaloid fans complaining about incest is funny to me. Do they know about adolescence or onii yuukai?

pooty pooty tang tangDébutant
No. 2451874>>2451877

>>2451591
>>2451840
4 is Roblox too. I thought Sprunki was Roblox again but I guess it's a flash music game reskin? Not sure how they built a fandom around that.

Depressed_In_BucharestMerveilleux
No. 2451877

>>2451874
>Not sure how they built a fandom around that.
Googled it and there’s creepypasta bloody versions of the characters in it, nuff said.

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2451902

>>2451751
…You know act 5 is as long as all the first acts together, and where most of the characters get their development, right? you cant say "the trolls are generic" when you didnt even read the act literally dedicated to them?

Submas Goes In The Image FieldSans Pareil
No. 2452029>>2452034

>>2451845
I don't care what words you use, it just doesn't seem like you actually read it. You can just say, "the comic isn't for me," instead of misrepresenting the content of it to "justify" why you feel the way you do. Art is subjective, you are fully entitled to dislike something for arbitrary reasons.

Anonymous GeneSans Pareil
No. 2452031

>>2451438
jannies just hate you because blogging isn’t even banned in /ot/
>>2451253
I agree so much. tomoko really was a icon for loser women everywhere
>>2451666
fake autists more like

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2452034

>>2452029
You worded this poetically, anon. If you don't like Homestuck or any piece of media for any arbitrary reason, it's fine to express that opinion. What's annoying is when people pretend they are experts and misrepresent or lie about the content of what they dislike. Literally fake news

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2452060>>2452062>>2452081

File (hide): 1742416244441.jpg (99.92 KB, 595x434, 1741725199092.jpg)

The moment trannydom infected fandom was the beginning of the end. Now you can't even look at fanart or read fic anymore without being assailed by man with pussy everywhere. It almost makes me wish we could go back to the Homestuck days where everyone drew trolls with tentacle dicks. At least I don't remember ever seeing a troll drawn as a tranny. It will take decades to fix what was done to fandom.

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2452062>>2452064>>2452071>>2452106

>>2452060
I swear I'm not a TIF and I don't like the cuntboy shit but it makes sense in theory to me. Men have been making futanari for ages because they can relate better to "yuri" when the "women" have dicks. It's degenerate but not necessarily a tranny thing. To me it seems like a way for women to self-insert themselves into media that they can't self-insert into. Again, self-inserting ruining everything like it always does

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2452064

>>2452062
men make futashit because they are bisexual, same for women that enjoy cuntboy

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2452071>>2452106

>>2452062
>Men have been making futanari for ages because they can relate better to "yuri" when the "women" have dicks.
It's not about relatability. Men make futa content because they want to get fucked by a dick. It's the same reason they sleep with tranny prostitutes. They're not making art to "see" themselves in a fictional couple, that's something women do. Which woman do you know has ever hired a TIF prostitute?

Depressed_In_BucharestSans Pareil
No. 2452081>>2452864

>>2452060
I pray for all the Daniil husbandofags that the reddit, tumblr and twitter sect of the Patho fandom explodes so they don't have to see art of the Bachelor with a pussy anymore.
Amen.

NullSans Pareil
No. 2452087

>>2451610
100% yes

imSkirbeseLumineux
No. 2452092>>2452129>>2453834>>2454305>>2454419

I find the current arcane fandom drama so funny, where an artist kept redrawing Jayvik as popular cartoons and when she did Tarzan people lost their shit calling it racist

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2452106>>2452113

>>2452071
Nta but I think >>2452062 is half-right. Coomers want to self-insert as a futa fucking their waifu because they want to see her get penetrated, but they'd get too jealous if it were a normal moid doing it. Instead, they staple a cock on some other big booba anime bimbo and have her fuck the waifu instead. They get twice the tits and don't have to feel insecure about seeing a guy way hotter than them fuck the lady they thirst for. But there's also an element of repressed bisexuality, too; these men are titillated by seeing these cartoonishly large veiny cocks, but having them be attached to a generic anime girl allows them to "no homo" it. I think a lot of supposedly straight moids have latent bisexual tendencies that can be triggered by overconsumption of porn.

elfearsSans Pareil
No. 2452113

>>2452106
Moids are pseudo-bisexual because of culture being misogynistic since the dawn of time and their own (literal) dick measuring contest that determines their social hierarchy being focused on hard big cocks. See cultures where having pedophilic gay sex was a cultural expectation etc. Misogyny also makes it so that men don't respect or take interest in women as people (a.k.a. love) because they cannot participate in the dick measuring contest and are thus non-people. Making a female character into a futa (most often with giant cocks if you have noticed) is a way for a male to resolve his sexual attraction to a woman while also "respecting" her.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2452129>>2453797>>2453834>>2453847

File (hide): 1742419243004.jpg (442.3 KB, 1080x1158, Screenshot_20250319_221739_Fir…)

>>2452092
The artist already nuked her profile but you can only find this mesh of westaboo art in kr fans lmao

crabbySans Pareil
No. 2452864

>>2452081
thank you nona. i swear theres 3x as much art of him with tits and pussy than there is of him with regular male anatomy, its insane. when the ftms latch on to their self-insert its like trying to get barnacles off a boat

landmine-himeLumineux
No. 2453797

>>2452129
God, Viktor is ugly

landmine-himeDébutant
No. 2453834>>2453861>>2454299

>>2452129
>>2452092
heterosexuality with extra steps(bait)

WhiteGlovianLumineux
No. 2453837>>2453842>>2453846>>2453868>>2453902>>2453925>>2454039>>2455136

File (hide): 1742494990651.png (43.28 KB, 716x430, RCPUTsm.png)

>fiction only affects the reality of stupid people
>is a degen pro-shippper

SoapPropagandistMerveilleux
No. 2453842

>>2453837
you just know how much they'll seeth and sperg out if someone ages up the character they "kin" in fanarts kek

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2453846

>>2453837
>Stupid people
As if there isn't an abundance of them, me included

weenusDébutant
No. 2453847

>>2452129
Jayvik is such a boring ship

keksDébutant
No. 2453861>>2453863>>2453881>>2454299

>>2453834
I think the picture is really cringe too, but how is it heterosexual when that's still very clearly two men? I never understood this argument.

manmoder shoulderhonLumineux
No. 2453863

>>2453861
its Viktor there is a 99.9% chance he is a tif in that picture

pooty pooty tang tangMerveilleux
No. 2453868>>2453873>>2454451

>>2453837
>unironically getting mad at people over tumblr tier shit like being a proshipper

fujo-to-tif-piplineDébutant
No. 2453873>>2453888

>>2453868
The absolute state of lc kek

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWSans Pareil
No. 2453881>>2453922>>2454268>>2454286>>2454299

>>2453861
>I never understood this argument.
Most people can obviously tell that yaoi is not an accurate representation of homosexual males because it doesn't feel like so, given that the tropes are often comparable to heterosexual romance. This obviously happens because most BL writers are heterosexual women, so they write from their own experience and perception. Same thing happens with yuri written by men, everyone knows it feels "off" and not like real lesbianism. It's just a natural consequence of heterosexual people wanting to write homosexuals for coom.

manmoder shoulderhonMerveilleux
No. 2453888>>2454028>>2454451

>>2453873
This site might as well be twitter 2 now

frill thrillSans Pareil
No. 2453899>>2453935

I think RPF, so long as it's not about minors and not shared with/targeted at the people involved, is kind of a gray area. I don't like it (because I think it's creepy) but it's not like writing self-insert/One Direction member fic # 1,987,467 is worse than regular old fandom. It's different if the real people involved are dead (and have been dead for at least as long as living memory, ie: nobody alive has personally interacted with them). Like historical fantasy is generally accepted as professional fiction but somebody writing an epic romance between themselves and Kurt Cobain isn't, you know?

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2453902>>2454451

>>2453837
>moralfagging over proship discourse
kek do you have a dni too? go back to tumblr

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2453922>>2454299

>>2453881
But in the end, it's still two men (or two women), and not a man or a woman. As long as it's not trans or cuntboy/futa shit, then I just see it for what it is - a gay relationship between fictional characters that doesn't necessarily need to be accurate representation of gay people and their dynamics in real life. I don't think the author's irl sexuality has to be relevant to what they write about and explore in fiction, either.

LaurMerveilleux
No. 2453925>>2453992>>2454009

>>2453837
moralfagging over anime incest is cringe

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2453935

>>2453899
I agree. People should be more worried about RPS because that's what actually produces schizos like Larries.

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2453970>>2454101

I hate every woman who conflates real morality with fiction, especially against other women.

sageDébutant
No. 2453992>>2454051

>>2453925
God forbid someone calls a sister/brother fucker gross…on a gossip site God forbid truly.

ashley jankowskiLumineux
No. 2454009>>2454019>>2454051

>>2453925
>REEEE you dont understand that EVERYTHING requires my opinion and my scroll wheel is broken so I can never simply move on

all whores will dieMerveilleux
No. 2454019

>>2454009
Don’t post if you can’t handle people disagreeing with you then

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2454028

>>2453888
it already is tbh.

ex-farmhandLumineux
No. 2454039

>>2453837
I don't think it's uncommon to like fictional incest ships but think irl incest is disgusting though.

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2454051>>2454080

>>2453992
>>2454009
Go back, you dont belong here.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldMerveilleux
No. 2454080>>2454295

>>2454051
>oldfags dont belong on image boards
now ive seen it all

Mutiliated MenLumineux
No. 2454101

>>2453970
This except only when its against other women.

frill thrillMerveilleux
No. 2454268

>>2453881
> It's just a natural consequence of heterosexual people wanting to write homosexuals for coom
You sound like a tumblrtard bitching about how yaoi is fetishizing teh mlms

kakaDébutant
No. 2454286

>>2453881
Who would've thought straight people would write the sex their attracted as palatable gay porn?

straight-with-extra-stepsDébutant
No. 2454295

>>2454080
No one born after 2000 should be allowed here kek. Look what they've done to the site.

SoapPropagandistMerveilleux
No. 2454299>>2454308

File (hide): 1742513263083.jpg (71.9 KB, 800x450, 749512151.jpg)

>>2453881
>>2453922
>>2453861
>>2453834
Go back to your containment thread

Astarion_is_walledMerveilleux
No. 2454305>>2454332

>>2452092
Twitter children reach so hard for shit to complain about. I've never seen Arcane, but Jay is the buff one and Viktor is the scientist one, right? So if you're doing a Tarzan AU, it makes sense to have Viktor be in the role of Jane, because she's a scientist.

pooty pooty tang tangMerveilleux
No. 2454308

>>2454299
I swear they're being extra autistic about their anime coom discourse that nobody else cares about recently.

elfearsLumineux
No. 2454328>>2454333>>2454336

Be honest nonas, how many of you are undercover and pretending to be a gendie in your fandom? Like using “they” pronouns or pretending to be “queer”

NullMerveilleux
No. 2454332>>2454341>>2454357>>2454376>>2454429>>2455437

File (hide): 1742513901824.png (237.31 KB, 1000x563, 2dca0cb196df1dbab405d72f7a3ccf…)

>>2454305
its funny not really considering the fans that all of these viktor fans conveniently forget he has a canon girlfriend (who sadly gets so little attention she gets no fanart)

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWLumineux
No. 2454333

>>2454328
why would anyone do this?

Vegan_PrincessMerveilleux
No. 2454336

>>2454328
only handmaidens do that

all whores will dieDébutant
No. 2454341>>2454350

>>2454332
Well, to be fair she dies instantly in season one and the version of her we see in season 2 is probably not even real, that's not really the premise for a beloved and memorable character

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2454350

>>2454341
i know they did her so wrong especially after they hired those sabotaging artists and writers who wanted to pander to the retard fans, i actually thought she was super cute

kys bishitsDébutant
No. 2454357>>2454360>>2454365

>>2454332
Because she's a background character, Arcane-autist. You just don't like Jayvik and are looking for any excuse to sperg about it. You've brought up this Tarzan bullshit like six times in various threads already. We get it, Mel is your self-insert and you're pissed there isn't more art of Jay fucking you- I mean her. So you're making it our problem even though hardly anyone here cares about western FotM zoomer slop like Arcane.(infighting)

LaurMerveilleux
No. 2454360>>2454367

>>2454357
if she loved mel she would be glad the fandom thinks she deserves better than that ugly faggot. viktor and jay are at least looksmatched.

trad4himDébutant
No. 2454365>>2454419

>>2454357
wrong anon schizo chan. i dont make a show my whole personality

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2454367

>>2454360
Kek, NTA but this is exactly why I don't understand why Jayvik haters are so upset (saying that as someone who doesn't even ship it.) Mel is objectively more interesting when she's apart from Jayce and she's way too pretty/intelligent for him too.

SoapPropagandistLumineux
No. 2454376

>>2454332
Were they dating? She seemed more like a fan with a crush the scientist man barely noticed until shit hit the fan.
Its not an uncommon trope either.

ashley jankowskiSans Pareil
No. 2454419

>>2454365
Sorry nona, I think I read your post too fast. >>2452092 is the anon I meant to address, she's the one who keeps posting about the Tarzan drama in different threads.

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2454429>>2454438

>>2454332
>he has a canon girlfriend
He literally doesn't, their relationship as it was shown was never more than platonic. I don't know why you'd post false information that can easily be checked.

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2454438>>2454446>>2454474>>2455107

>>2454429
>platonic friends
No they weren't kek

NullDébutant
No. 2454446>>2454521

>>2454438
Why can't that scene be seen as platonic, though? If they meant for it to be 100% romantic, I'm sure they could've shown it better. You can have your own interpretation, but don't call something canon when it isn't.

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2454448>>2454453>>2454495

I hope all arcane fans eat the pavement god you are so fucking annoying. I hope all the characters are trooned for eternity, its what you retards deserve.

fuck_fujoshitsDébutant
No. 2454451>>2454455>>2454484

>>2453902
>>2453868
>>2453888
Since when did you guys take a stance on the actual discourse instead of looking at it from an outside perspective and laughing at everybody? People make fun of proshippers and antishippers often in these fandom discourse threads. You're not supposed to actively participate in the shipper discourse, you're supposed to laugh.

Kirby_is_GNCDébutant
No. 2454453

File (hide): 1742517767642.gif (1.29 MB, 360x360, Tumblr_l_235471518892576.gif)

>>2454448
I never got into Arcane because I think the art style is ugly.

frill thrillLumineux
No. 2454455>>2454458>>2454465

>>2454451
Yeah, we’re laughing at the tard in the picture who thinks fiction is reality.

fuck_fujoshitsLumineux
No. 2454458>>2454478

>>2454455
What is fiction based off then?

sageSans Pareil
No. 2454465

>>2454455
Call it what you want, but getting mad at that anon for posting the screenshot here by calling it "tumblr drama" or "moralfagging" when the entire thread is dedicated to making fun of or discussing the said stupid tumblr drama is pretty obtuse.

Mutiliated MenLumineux
No. 2454466>>2454482

File (hide): 1742518223983.jpg (135.66 KB, 1080x524, Illustration.jpg)


ashley jankowskiMerveilleux
No. 2454474>>2454500

>>2454438
ew i thought victor would be cute because of all the fanart i saw, he looks like this? kek

weenusMerveilleux
No. 2454478

>>2454458
Imagination. Anything is possible.
Grounding shit to reality is why movies look terrible now.

bratgasmDébutant
No. 2454482>>2454485>>2454491>>2455107

>>2454466
I agree but Jayce should die. Viktor should die. Mel should die.
The lesbians haven't annoyed me so they can continue to be lesbians or whatever.

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2454484

>>2454451
NTA but no one's laughing because there's nothing interesting about seeing the millionth basic "fiction =/= reality" take by a proshipper with nothing else attached.

Submas Goes In The Image FieldLumineux
No. 2454485

>>2454482
Correct and based. Actually, kill the lesbians anyway bc they deserve it for being fotm slop.

weenusDébutant
No. 2454491>>2454498

>>2454482
I don't watch that shit but didn't all three of them already die

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2454495>>2454499

>>2454448
I agree. Arcane is basically the new Homestuck at this point

kakaSans Pareil
No. 2454498

>>2454491
They should die again in brutal graphic ways. And then keep dying over and over until the spirits of all arcane sloppers are irreparably broken and they shut up for good.

crabbyLumineux
No. 2454499

>>2454495
Being attached to the League of Legends fandom was a bad omen from the start.

rottenbeardDébutant
No. 2454500

>>2454474
FotMfags have shit taste in media and in men, it's not a surprise kek.

ex-farmhandMerveilleux
No. 2454521>>2454529>>2454531

>>2454446
Shouldn't all scenes aside from actual display of affection or downright sex be seen as platonic then? Why ship or see romance if it isn't actually stated so? Shipping is only allowed when I like it I guess.

weenusMerveilleux
No. 2454529

>>2454521
Ship whatever you want, just don't say it's canon if it isn't.

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2454531

>>2454521
Calling something a completely canon relationship is different from shipping.
If its canon, then it's 100% in the show, straight up.

keksLumineux
No. 2454550

File (hide): 1742520904713.jpg (65.37 KB, 546x546, dfdc8f60f4a05e4f66577b88314cde…)

I say unless the characters kiss (and enjoy it), literally call each other boyfriend/girlfriend, or are literally married, don't run around saying something is canon. I also wish shippers would stop placing so much value on whether something is "canon" or not– I think the obsession with that is what drives a lot of the ship-based harassment of showrunners. Just have fun with fanart and fanfic and don't worry too much about whether a ship is "canon."

fuck_fujoshitsMerveilleux
No. 2454847>>2454945

I want fandom to go back to the way it was 10+ years ago. I support banning the selling of smartphones to anyone under the age of 16, but I fear that won't be enough and the damage is irreversible.

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWMerveilleux
No. 2454945>>2454953

File (hide): 1742545388628.png (236.82 KB, 1280x1434, rcdart captain america.png)

>>2454847
You have to go back further than that, 10 years ago people were still doing tumblr callouts and making troonified fanart. Rcdart's bimbo Captain America art is from 2016 for reference lol.

fuck_fujoshitsSans Pareil
No. 2454953

>>2454945
Crazy that even tumblr users called her out back then. She was ahead of her time I guess

landmine-himeMerveilleux
No. 2455023>>2455027>>2455028>>2455029>>2455032>>2455036>>2455107

File (hide): 1742556794860.png (33.75 KB, 799x456, firefox_RefVfw5ipi.png)

What sort of weird stage are we at that a lot of people will consume a ton of content about a horror game and make fanart, but will be too scared to play it? If I was too scared I would just ignore the piece of media.

Do young zoomers think that watching horror movies isn't scary but actively playing something is too creepy?

weegeewifeLumineux
No. 2455027

>>2455023
I don't even think they watch the horror movies they claim to like either.

NullLumineux
No. 2455028>>2455031>>2455061

>>2455023
i would make fun of this person but ive tried to play cry of fear like 3 times and could never get more than a few hours in because of how stressful it is. i assume fear and hunger is similar?

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2455029

>>2455023
I get liking a games story but not really playing it because you suck at vidya and it's too hard. It's kinda lame and I'll probably jokingly tell you to GIT GUD but I still understand. It's just a skill issue.
But how can you claim that you like the story and themes of this game if it's too scary for you and you refuse to engage with it. You don't fucking like it then asshole!

SoapPropagandistSans Pareil
No. 2455031>>2455035>>2455039

>>2455028
A game being too hectic for you such as quicktime events or having to constantly run from something is not the same as these emotionally stunted troglodytes that for some reason have autistic fixations on the latest popular horror titles yet as you read find the actual games “too scawyyyyy” There is a complete lack of authenticity from these people and they have a relationship to the media thats inherently disconnected from its actual purpose. It’s like saying you’re a huge Harry Potter fan but the only media you interacted with was the Universal Studio rides, no movies, no books just some random third party content thats adjacent to it because you found the “concept” fun. Idk how to explain it besides autists having a weird parasocial relationship to a game, they refuse/cant to play it but still feel some insane attachment to it that makes no sense.

Depressed_In_BucharestLumineux
No. 2455032

>>2455023
>Do young zoomers think that watching horror movies isn't scary but actively playing something is too creepy?
Not a young zoomer but yes, the two are very different. With movies it is already determined what will happen and when, you don't have any influence over it, you just sit back and watch. With a game, you are in control of a lot of what happens and events will vary depending on your choices/RNG, which puts pressure onto you and makes things 10x more frightening.

weenusDébutant
No. 2455035

>>2455031
yeah theres a lot of people like this now, i saw a post on twitter a while back of people talking about how they read fanfiction of whatever before they even engage with the actual source material, its so odd

Ashton_WintersSans Pareil
No. 2455036

>>2455023
I will be hella generous and say I can understand being afraid to play something like SH or Fatal Frame, actual atmospheric immersive stuff and instead watch someone play so their presence could make it more laid back.
But funger is a pixel RPG with straightforward giant dicks,rape,gore and ass bleeding. Whoever plays gonna read all the same descriptions in-game. Like there is no way to make it more palatable if you can't handle this shit.

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2455039

>>2455031
>Idk how to explain it besides autists having a weird parasocial relationship to a game, they refuse/cant to play it but still feel some insane attachment to it that makes no sense.
They just want to fit in whenever something's trending online, it's fomo. It's like when kids and teenagers are begging their parents to get them the latest trending pair of shoes even if it's expensive and ugly as fuck just so they can look like theie classmates. The type of adults who look back on their photos as kids and teenagers with that pair of shoes and think "wtf was wrong with me back then, these shoes are ugly as fuck" and then move on. Or the same way everyone is talking about the same celebrities over and over again, not because they like or even know their movies or songs or books, but because they're trending topics these days. That's why everyone moved from Homestuck to Voltron and Steven Universe in particular on tumblr back then, they felt they had to because they were trendy shows but they wouldn't stop saying they were bad and problematic or whatever a few seasons later.

straight-with-extra-stepsLumineux
No. 2455061

File (hide): 1742560622097.jpg (65.28 KB, 811x619, ss_0566ab26ad33199d08582348f71…)

>>2455028
This is what the game looks like, being a 2D RPG maker game makes it considerably less scary than cry of fear where you can't see around corners and which had jump scares. It's definitely 18+, it has very edgy elements but they are more in a funny teenage way edgy than serious. The horror comes from the bleakness and lack of resources, so the game is about survival and constantly dying and learning new things.

It got a big following on youtube among zoomers after supereyepatchwolf made a very popular video on it.

novemberLumineux
No. 2455106>>2455139>>2455146>>2455335

Can you guy help me understand why some shows create massive fandoms with a bunch of fanart and fanfics while some very popular shows have tiny fandoms. One example that comes to mind is the show euphoria, when the show first came out so many people I knew in real life watched the show but I barely saw any actual fan work except for viral edits and a few video analysis. Do you guys think it has something to do with the demographics or the type of media?

(nitpicking)Moderator
No. 2455107

>>2454438
she doesn't actually exist in that scene, she's dead. Viktor feels guilty after her death and the Hexcore has an fake version of her. when he loses his humanity, the fake Sky disappears. she was never his girlfriend even if you ship Sky and Viktor. I'm not a jayvik shipper either both are ugly
>>2454482
they are all dead and there will be no Arcane season 3, just more LoL
>>2455023
fandom would have gatekept and actively made fun of these people 10 years ago kek

rottenbeardMerveilleux
No. 2455136

>>2453837
The person quote retweeting is apparently 15

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2455139

>>2455106
Normies don't make fanart or fanfic. They just consoom.

frill thrillSans Pareil
No. 2455140

NOTICE

Thread has reached 1100 posts. The thread will be locked and you will be unable to post in it shortly after it exceeds 1200 posts. Please begin preparing a new thread and post a link to it when it's created.

trad4himMerveilleux
No. 2455146>>2455167>>2455205>>2455247>>2455568>>2457631

>>2455106
Normalfags were the main target audience and normalfags don't create anything, weird outcasts do, and most weird outcasts would rather obsess over shitty cartoons or videogames or anime over live action shows that don't even have any prominent fantasy elements in their plot, specially when the plot in question is "DUDE, SEX. DUDE, DRUGS".

novemberLumineux
No. 2455167

>>2455146
Exactly kek. That's why there was no Breaking Bad fanart until zoomers got into it ironically to draw ftm Jesse

LaurMerveilleux
No. 2455205

>>2455146
> live action shows that don't even have any prominent fantasy elements in their plot
Is this why I loved the stuffings out of charmed and doctor who but refused to touch that shit of a show?

kys bishitsDébutant
No. 2455247

>>2455146
Not that I know much about Euphoria but what kind of fanfic could be written about it? Typically people write fanfics because they want more of the same stories or characters, or they have ideas that are related to the setting like an AU, or a prequel or a sequel and as you said with fantasy or action stories it's easier to come up with fanfic ideas, but with live action shows with realistic stories there's also the fact that usually, the audience tends to only follow the story because they want to know what will happen next and nothing else. So when the story ends the audience won't be invested enough to write a fanfic even if they're usually nerds. If you write a fanfic for something realistic it's so easy to accidentally make something thag looks completely unrelated to the original stuff. And sometimes a story feels too "complete" to want to write fanfics even if you loved the story and the characters a lot.

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2455335>>2455531

>>2455106
I noticed that male-centric fandoms have less fanart, unless they reach mainstream popularity where artists can advertise their work

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2455437>>2455446>>2455495

>>2454332
This is always how I can tell so many of the anons in here aren't true fandom goers, why would you think an implied (or even canon) female love interest would stop shippers from shipping? It's fandom, that's what is fun about it. You can make relationships and play with characters without being constrained to canon, fandoms have never cared.

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2455446>>2455495

>>2455437
You can so easily tell there's a terrible ratio of people who only experience fandoms through what Twitter puts on their TLs, vs people who actively seek out fan communities, vs people who actively make fanworks.

weegeewifeMerveilleux
No. 2455495

>>2455437
>>2455446
Ironically, you haven't noticed the type of people that will ship their favourite with character A because they dislike character B who is a more popular ship. Even if character A gets written out of the plot, they will defend the ship to spite fans of B. That's the situation possibly going on here.

kakaMerveilleux
No. 2455501

>>2447255
In my Current Day experience, no real "fandom mom" is someone who is self-appointed; it was often younger fans with no understanding adult figures in their offline lives inserting themselves into adult spaces and then trying to adopt older fans as their own guides/guardians. The backlash began when they started getting mad when that older adult sets boundaries or makes it very obvious what they're all about to filter people out.

The true, original self-described obnoxious fandom moms were usually those female fans who were extra weird during the early millennium, but never matured as a fan. As in, they were weird in already fringe spaces (think of a proto-TiM in a yaoi space).
As Tumblr came into being, they began sticking to younger, less threatening peers and established themselves as a wise guide while siccing their new friends on old fandom rivals. This is how we got early Tumblr where you had these "moms" writing about how toxic a ship they still hate for over the past 20 years is a sign of criminal behavior.

I've met some before. They're constantly childish but are the first ones to call for "machoority" when something doesn't go their way. These days, they're often identifying older TiMs because they'll identify into anything that nets them the most protection. So it's why we don't actually see them. It was cool to be the fandom Mom, but now they're the Cool Older Trans Dad or something.

I think that's how the whole "fandom mom" thing developed. I think it's now expected that a woman over a certain age is expected to be a potentially policing "mom figure" who hangs in a mixed-aged space in fandoms, when, in reality, most older female fans either tend to soley keep to themselves, a small circle of likeminded people, or anonymous boards like these.

There ARE self-designated "fandom moms", but they're usually groomer TiMs. In fact, the majority of the behavior I see fandom moms being accused of is more common with older male fans who often have a predatory side.

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2455531>>2455535

>>2455335
Blue archive has fanart but the number producers for that are secretly women.

ex-farmhandLumineux
No. 2455535>>2455571>>2456535

>>2455531
As said
>unless they reach mainstream popularity where artists can advertise their work
Blue archive is hentai doujin slop, same as Nikke.

weegeewifeDébutant
No. 2455568

>>2455146
There are shows out there without any kind of sci-fi or fantasy that garnered fandoms, like Black Sails or Better Call Saul. I think that Euphoria just kind of sucks, and normies like it for the same reason they like reality TV. They aren't invested in the characters, they just want to come home from their soul-sucking job and watch hot people fuck and be trashy on the idiot box. What bleak lives they lead, never engaging with art in a way that makes them want to create art of their own.

kys bishitsSans Pareil
No. 2455571>>2455909

>>2455535
That's not what the word doujin means

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2455639>>2455678

File (hide): 1742584828640.png (726.76 KB, 1054x793, kekthe2nd.png)

>>2455617
>rainbowotome
Yet no rainbow galge and the like kek. Seriously, these types need to fuck off and do their own thing instead of shitting up otome with their wokeworms. Speaking of, saw someone post their game about a Tif protag in a sub where female protags are the norm. Can you be more tone deaf? See this all the time in general indie vn space and I wished it weren't the case. There's just some ideas otome can't deliver to me but it's also so pozzed I don't bother anymore.

fuck_fujoshitsSans Pareil
No. 2455678

File (hide): 1742586573762.webp (140.11 KB, 1920x1080, im-about-to-release-my-visual-…)

>>2455639
This looks so bad kek. We need a non-pozzed OELVN otome renaissance asap.

crabbyLumineux
No. 2455909>>2456231

>>2455571
Oh noo, sorry for using the westernized shortening of the word doujinshi.
It's school girl hentai doujinshi slop.

CerbminOwner
No. 2455927>>2455970

File (hide): 1742594108788.jpg (311.62 KB, 1080x1162, Screenshot_20250321_225402_Fir…)

I'm using 'played the game through tiktok edits' from now on

weegeewifeLumineux
No. 2455970

>>2455927
Can't wait for FF9 fans to feel this level of pain

Ashton_WintersDébutant
No. 2456131>>2456268

I don't understand multilingual people in fandoms who primarily engage with English speaking fanbases and act surprised and annoyed when the fanbase is retarded. Especially when that fanbase isn't the biggest in the west either. Like you have options, you don't have to talk to only English speaking retards on Twitter.

kakaMerveilleux
No. 2456231>>2456501

>>2455909
that is still not what that word means.

BlowjobsAreForPigsMerveilleux
No. 2456268

>>2456131
I see this so often it's crazy. There will be asian people boasting about eastern fandoms being better than western fandoms, but then will only tweet in english to a western audience. Its stockholm syndrome.

Anonymous GeneDébutant
No. 2456501


CerbminOwner
No. 2456535>>2456547>>2457018

>>2455535
>blue archive
>doujin
BA was made by the biggest game dev studio in south korea, the same studio that made mapple story. Its not fucking Touhou.

landmine-himeLumineux
No. 2456547>>2457022

>>2456535
It's doujin slop because it's the base material for coomer comiket doujins, retard…

trad4himMerveilleux
No. 2456902

>>2451697
I refuse to believe she's actually 19, she's probably a late zoomer larping as a 19 years old

its givingMerveilleux
No. 2456992>>2457001>>2457138>>2457244

File (hide): 1742659763865.png (67.11 KB, 799x610, comic city fujos.png)

>>2446933
> The people you praise for making indie work of love are usually just left standing
Not true. You're looking at Comiket, an event full of moids. Check out Comic City, a female-majority event, and you'll see all sorts of listings for artists making stuff for less FOTM-y fandoms. They've got literally thousands of women making Slam Dunk doujins as you can see in picrel, as well as tons of fanworks for other BL-centric series. If you look at Comic City's website, you can see tons of older less trendy stuff like Toriko, Magi, and Ace Attourney as well.

NullDébutant
No. 2457001

>>2456992
slam dunk still being so popular makes me smile

NullSans Pareil
No. 2457018

>>2456535
doujin also means fanart/fan works.

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2457022>>2457028

>>2456547
You are so dense, thats not what that word means. Are you ESL?

BlowjobsAreForPigsMerveilleux
No. 2457028>>2457051

>>2457022
Everyone besides you can understand what she is talking about, we are speaking in english and using the common English definition, not glorious nipponese.

Regards.Débutant
No. 2457051>>2457055>>2457059

>>2457028
Doujin is a japanese word. What are you retards talking about. You cannot make up meanings that has the complete opposite meaning of the original word and then expect everyone to agree with you. Doujin means indie works. Blue Archive is made by fucking Nexon, its not a doujin work.

crabbySans Pareil
No. 2457055>>2457060

>>2457051
Nonna, most of the anons here are retarded newbies who think all anime is hentai tentacle slop. No use in being pedantic.

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2457059>>2457063

>>2457051
Pro tip: doujin is being used as an abbreviation for doujinshi here, hope this helps your illiterate ass understand the conversation.

Mutiliated MenMerveilleux
No. 2457060

>>2457055
Sorry i forget that everyone ITT is a tiktok kiddie sometimes.

WhiteGlovianSans Pareil
No. 2457063>>2457069

>>2457059
They both mean the same fucking thing retard, you have to be kidding me. Its even WORSE if you are calling Blue Archive Doujinshi, since doujinshi only applies to autopublished MANGA. A game can be a doujin work, but it cannot be a doujinshi.

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2457069>>2457070

>>2457063
Holy fucking illiterate, nobody is calling blue archive a doujin game, its being called fuel for doujins, which you would have figured out if you could read.

kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2457070>>2457075

>>2457069
>Blue archive is hentai doujin slop
learn to write retard because thats not what anon said. She didnt say BA is hentai doujin BAIT.

Vegan_PrincessDébutant
No. 2457075>>2457080>>2457081

>>2457070
Praying you figure out how japanese loan words are used in english soon or else i will be calling king of the hill anime and you can’t argue about it.

manmoder shoulderhonDébutant
No. 2457080

>>2457075
KOTH is american anime

kakaDébutant
No. 2457081>>2457086>>2457130

>>2457075
Thats not how you use a loan word. doujin literally just means indie/fanwork. It only has one meaning.

Regards.Merveilleux
No. 2457086>>2457096

>>2457081
Are you so dumb that you need me to do a linguistic breakdown of the conversation to help your tiny brain understand?

kys bishitsDébutant
No. 2457096>>2457107>>2457111

>>2457086
Next time learn how to write and what words mean before using them.

Kirby_is_GNCDébutant
No. 2457107>>2457146>>2457250

>>2457096
“Anime” in japanese just mean animated show/movie. In English, it means an animated show/movie of japanese origin. “Manga “ means comic in Japanese. In English, it means a comic of Japanese origin. “Doujinshi” in Japanese means a self published work. “Doujinshi” used in English means a fancomic. Now using this knowledge, read the sentence “hentai doujin slop” and replace it with “hentai fancomic slop” and explain how you arrived to the conclusion that anyone was calling BA a self published game.

SoapPropagandistLumineux
No. 2457111

>>2457096
stop wasting your breath arguing with a zoomer who doesnt even know what theyre talking about

Depressed_In_BucharestMerveilleux
No. 2457130

>>2457081
NTA but 95% of ENG-speaking people just say doujin to refer to porn comics made by random men when making jokey posts, don't be so obtuse. Do you argue so much whenever people say "[X] artwork looks like it's from a doujin lol" on Twitter as well?

CerbminOwner
No. 2457138>>2457149>>2457205

>>2456992
>slam dunk
Unique case of big doujinshi scene and a popular IP. Similar to Tiger and Bunny, Kurobas, Ace of Diamond
>Enstars
Most popular japanese female oriented gacha
>Genshin Impact
Gacha game
>Touken Ranbu
Still alive gacha game
>Tokyo Revengers
Was flavour of the month that year

straight-with-extra-stepsLumineux
No. 2457146>>2457162

>>2457107
Based and succint reply. It's a franchise primarily spread and consumed via lewd fanworks (being one of the most popular IPs in the doujinshi scene), rather than having value as a video game.

Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2457149>>2457163

File (hide): 1742666497765.jpg (135.45 KB, 600x842, 1000009222.jpg)

>>2457138
Touken Ranbu mention but at what cost

bratgasmLumineux
No. 2457162>>2457165>>2457179>>2457233

>>2457146
You have never played the game.

trad4himDébutant
No. 2457163

>>2457149
Don't get me wrong, it's a unique franchise that's revitalized a part of it's homeland's culture- but there's been nothing big about it in recent years, the gacha game still gets new boys.

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2457165>>2457198

>>2457162
We don’t care about point and click lolis

pooty pooty tang tangLumineux
No. 2457179>>2457198

File (hide): 1742667582120.png (48.09 KB, 754x532, chrome_UJqLx02rJK.png)

>>2457162
Even gacha retards call it one of the most simple games + it's coomer slop

NullDébutant
No. 2457198>>2457217>>2457303

>>2457165
>>2457179
So, again. You havent played it and taking redditors opinions at face value. Kek. I dont like LADS or twisted wonderland but whatever you like it or not they have gameplay, story and characters, even if its not up to your delicate taste.

Regards.Débutant
No. 2457205>>2457207>>2457224

File (hide): 1742668073142.png (97.91 KB, 1368x888, comic city MTL.png)

>>2457138
Obviously popular series are going to get the most attention, but as I said, there's tons of smaller/female-autism friendly fandoms active as well. Transformers, Kinnikuman, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, Yona of the Dawn etc. Browse the website yourself if you'd like to take a look at the variety: https://akaboo.jp/event/item/ca202.html

rottenbeardSans Pareil
No. 2457207>>2457209

>>2457205
Transformers fandom is full of tifs

fujo-to-tif-piplineDébutant
No. 2457209

>>2457207
We're talking about Japan, nona. Lol

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2457217>>2457238

>>2457198
Nah, my favorite mobile game is Arknights. Coming to lolcow to defend a lolicoomer game and assuming everyone must play LADS is peak pick-me behaviour.

frill thrillDébutant
No. 2457224>>2457244

>>2457205
>Transformers, Kinnikuman, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, Yona of the Dawn
Kinnikuman is an old and very long franchise that still gets new releases from time to time, Katekyo Reborn is a shonen jump series but it's old enough that I imagine only first time dedicated fans still care about it nowadays, and Akatsuki no Yona is a long and very popular shojo manga that's not over yet so this one doesn't fit the bill. There's a lot of variety in Comic city events but some of these events have specific themes so it depends. You'll have less variety during shipping only events because which artists are selected to sell their doujinshi will depend on which pairings are popular enough to be selected by votes so you can have rarepairs from a popular franchise that only a small number of hardcore fans like and no artists for recent popular franchises but they started too early to be selected for the next events just yet.

Regards.Sans Pareil
No. 2457233

>>2457162
Yeah most non pickme women dont support a incel lead pedogame

sageSans Pareil
No. 2457238>>2457245

>>2457217
Sorry i didnt know all women had to only like feminist approved games, which according to lolcow dont even exist because everything is problematic. Its funny you are saying this in the fandom thread out of all threads, since people here defend their moidslop too when its convenient.

trad4himLumineux
No. 2457244

>>2457224
I think we must have misunderstood each other at some point because what I was trying to convey with my original post here >>2456992 was that there are tons of works sold at doujin events that aren't just "scrotes making soulless porn at comiket to rake in sales," as said >>2446933. None of the fandoms I listed are really trendy in Japan at the moment, Kinikkuman isn't a fotm series with moids flocking to it to sell porn of it lol.

NullMerveilleux
No. 2457245

>>2457238
Be serious for once in your life, the artists are straight up pedos.

sageDébutant
No. 2457250

>>2457107
>doujinshi means self published work but umm no it actually doesn’t
nta but at least try to be less retarded. it literally does mean a self published work of japanese origin. stop doubling down on your stupidity and embarrassing yourself.

fujo-to-tif-piplineSans Pareil
No. 2457303

>>2457198
There truly is no hope for women when retards like you exist.(infighting)

trollcowSans Pareil
No. 2457631>>2457677>>2457681

>>2455146
Do normalfags not like fantasy as much as outcasts do?

Anonymous GeneDébutant
No. 2457642>>2457705>>2458595

No offense but the Blue Archive-chan who always pops up to whitekight the game because "I just like the cute designs and gameplay" needs to learn to read the room. This is not the place you want to build that hill to die on.

landmine-himeSans Pareil
No. 2457677

>>2457631
Nta, outcasts need the escapism it provides. I'd say, besides the points nonas made above, that DUDE, DRUGS, DUDE, SEX shows are a normie oriented wish fulfillment/fantasy, but instead of mahou shoujo it's mundane stuff dialed up, like edgy partying and navigating 50 different messy relationships. Normies would relate to that/have an easier time to project+doesn't require any imagination; too close to real life for outcasts to care.

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2457681>>2457689

>>2457631
Of course they do, just not as much as the weirdos, I've legit met people that dislike fantasy and/or sci-fi because "It doesn't make any sense and is dumb" and I genuinely can't grasp how someone can be so devoid of wonder and imagination kek

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2457689

>>2457681
This is my dad who thinks anything that isn’t a news story or historical account is worthless drivel.

keksMerveilleux
No. 2457705

>>2457642
Her posting style is similar too so it's always the personalityfag who keeps trying to gaslit others here they blue archive is totally a sfw game seperated from its fandom and not like they had a redeem code with the word cunny and countless child characters showing their breasts and ass in it noo , be vigilant nonas always remember ot has alot of tourists

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2458029

File (hide): 1742717013600.jpg (861.01 KB, 918x4499, forced pregnancy.JPG)

Severance twitter fandom has some interesting personalities

all whores will dieSans Pareil
No. 2458085

File (hide): 1742721354772.png (382.4 KB, 747x748, jXqWy3w.png)

this is what I hate about fandoms that try to make their art deeper than it is, imagine applying a nuanced feminist statement to stra-wars crap.

landmine-himeDébutant
No. 2458108

Awww the thread pic is precious. Sometimes I wish I could be the type of female autist with a special interest cartoon character. Instead I got the female autism where I browse imageboards and read threads with constant infighting and close ups of Shayna's asshole

pooty pooty tang tangSans Pareil
No. 2458518>>2458521

File (hide): 1742747989068.jpg (110.45 KB, 750x995, Gmui-9fWQAALDRR.jpg)

Damn, imagine wishing a random Spanish lady dies just because she draws adult moids getting raped. She had really good anatomy, but a stalker fan reported her everywhere.

ashley jankowskiMerveilleux
No. 2458521

File (hide): 1742748047249.jpg (95.88 KB, 750x838, GmuqXc5bAAAAMei.jpg)


kys bishitsMerveilleux
No. 2458573>>2458583>>2458584>>2458585>>2458586>>2458592>>2458637>>2458681>>2458861

File (hide): 1742750309356.png (Spoiler Image,157.77 KB, 512x720, 584idolizedNozomi.png)

Does anyone remember when shit like Love Live was considered the peak of coom and nowadays we have shit like Nikke and Brown Dust?

fujo-to-tif-piplineDébutant
No. 2458583

>>2458573
I’ve never really interacted with Love Live but it seems kinda like nothing coom wise even in comparison to other anime even from a decade ago. The average Shounen anime is more coomery than what you posted.

Ashton_WintersLumineux
No. 2458584

>>2458573
Even for its era love live was always super SFW. Million Live had full on ecchi fanservice.

ashley jankowskiLumineux
No. 2458585>>2458592>>2458691

File (hide): 1742750814894.jpg (Spoiler Image,56.98 KB, 483x604, __rias_gremory_high_school_dxd…)

>>2458573
>Love Live was considered the peak of coom
What about high school dxd?

Stop Anorectal Violence NOWDébutant
No. 2458586

>>2458573
My only experience with LL fandom was among other girls my own age at the time + my sister who liked the cute/energetic vibe of idols, imagine the blackpill a few years later when I realized there were scrotes into this seeing it from a completely different lens. Fortunately I moved on by that point but I think that was definitely a turning point/realization for me

straight-with-extra-stepsMerveilleux
No. 2458592

>>2458573
>Love Live was considered the peak of coom
Was it?? I remember the Tumblr fandom being mildly upset about SOME of the cards, but for the most part this is new to me. Afaik the quintessential coom show was Highschool DxD like >>2458585 said.

crabbySans Pareil
No. 2458595

>>2457642
I wonder what it is about this game in particular which attracts such an autistic fandom.

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2458637

>>2458573
Love live was never the peak of coom at any point in time…

weegeewifeSans Pareil
No. 2458681

>>2458573
Wasn't it Kill la Kill for the 2010s

Depressed_In_BucharestSans Pareil
No. 2458691>>2458700

>>2458585
Weird how this is kinda tame compared to the uncanniness of Brown Dust and Nikke

rottenbeardLumineux
No. 2458700>>2458742>>2458761>>2458789

>>2458691
"muh good old times were tamer"
Ero guro OVAs were being made since the 80s, that's worse than Brown Dust and Nikke lol

Ashton_WintersMerveilleux
No. 2458742

>>2458700
>Brown Dust
I can't take that name seriously. I keep thinking it's fart related

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2458759>>2458770

So a video about the cakeverse genre of fanfiction/fanart has gone viral on tiktok. Immediately people are at war over whether or not it's okay. I don't understand how it's different from omegaverse and I don't know why people are getting really autistic about how they can justify omegaverse being realistic enough to follow along with but cakeverse is apparently a step too far off the deep end

its givingLumineux
No. 2458761>>2458785

>>2458700
huh are there even more eroguro ovas than midori?

AdminsCoderBoiModerator
No. 2458770>>2458827

>>2458759
Isn't Cakeverse basically just vampire logic anyway

Astarion_is_walledMerveilleux
No. 2458785>>2458825>>2458858

File (hide): 1742757835022.jpg (104.77 KB, 266x375, Shōjo_Tsubaki_cover.jpg)

>>2458761
I'm not an expert on eroguro OVAs so you're better off googling a list
Maybe I overdid it calling it "ero" but there was definitely naked tits all over the place in the 80s and 90s. In the early 2000s we had the shitty nukige boom like from studio black cyc and then Elfen Lied got mainstream, there were smaller OVAs like Daughters of Mnemosyne which was ecchi with torture…that's what I remember from personal experience.

Kirby_is_GNCMerveilleux
No. 2458789>>2458809

>>2458700
I was talking sexual content in weeby mobile games, not OVAs

BlowjobsAreForPigsSans Pareil
No. 2458809>>2458821

File (hide): 1742758397961.webp (Spoiler Image,133.38 KB, 1000x1000, Hathor.webp)

>>2458789
Well, the weeby mobile games were restricted to jpgs so no jiggle physics. That being said, you'd be more likely to find them on DMM games were there's full blown hentai games.

Azur Lane, Destiny Child, Last Origin, Girls Frontline lolis in damaged outfits etc.

LaurSans Pareil
No. 2458821

File (hide): 1742758607192.webp (146.03 KB, 662x955, Anime_shimakaze.webp)

>>2458809
Also shimakaze being the meme girl in 2014

Skelly-ArmSans Pareil
No. 2458825>>2458829

>>2458785
Thats not eroguro. To be eroguro it has to mix porn with gore.

straight-with-extra-stepsMerveilleux
No. 2458827>>2458835

>>2458770
It's omegaverse but it's split into forks, cakes, and normals. It's the exact same in almost every way except instead of going into heat and knotting people they go into heat and taste nice in their neenor. Forks are alphas and cakes are omegas, normals are betas.

fujo-to-tif-piplineLumineux
No. 2458829>>2458837

>>2458825
Why are anons ITT so difficult?
>Midori: The Girl in the Freak Show (地下幻燈劇画 少女椿, Chika Gentō Gekiga: Shōjo Tsubaki, lit. 'Underground Projected Dramatic Pictures: The Camellia Girl') is a 1992 Japanese independent semi-animated ero guro fantasy horror drama film written and directed by Hiroshi Harada under the pseudonym of Hisaaki Etsu

Anonymous GeneMerveilleux
No. 2458835

>>2458827
Which fandom did this start in? I feel like i've only seen it on the asian side of things

keksMerveilleux
No. 2458837>>2458858

>>2458829
I was talking about the other examples like elfen lied. You said there were several eroguro ovas, but there are not. Its only midori and midori was so controversial it had to be animated by a single guy.

sageLumineux
No. 2458838

LOCKING IMMINENT

Thread has exceeded 1200 posts and is about to be locked! Please create a new thread and post a link to it.

LaurDébutant
No. 2458858

>>2458837
Read the post again >>2458785
>I overdid it calling it ero
>names black cyc which is full on eroguro
>elfen lied mentioned as an example of mainstream media that veeres into the territory of using both gore and ecchi

imSkirbeseSans Pareil
No. 2458861>>2459005

>>2458573
Love Live was super tame compared to other mobage that were alive at the time, probably cuz they knew that about half the fanbase was female.

NullLumineux
No. 2458870

There was the ultraviolence era of anime in the 80s and 90s, it ended up dying out but back then things were violently pornographic while now it's more ridiculously pornographic.

trollcowDébutant
No. 2458911>>2459016

File (hide): 1742761252284.jpg (749.5 KB, 2852x2048, Gc6baefX0AAPQWI.jpg)

Apparently Araki listed Dio Brando as "androgyne" with the androgyne symbol in this character sheet and now everyone is calling him enby? Please God someone tell me Araki didn't fall for gendie shit

AutismSpeaksModerator
No. 2459005

>>2458861
>cuz they knew that about half the fanbase was female.
The fanbase is like 90% male in japan tho. I remember they said they were surprised to see that many women when they went overseas kek.
That said, I don't think LL was ever peak coom, just the gatcha with the nost insane male fans (to the point women had to put "No LL fans" in their dating app bio). The only time it was more coom was during the end days of Super Star where they made feet pic cards and such.

trad4himSans Pareil
No. 2459016

>>2458911
Isn't there a man with boobs in the latest Jojo? The guy always leaned into fashion, unfortunately gendie shit is fashionable.



Delete Post [ ]
[Return]
[ Rules ] [ Lite ] [ ot / g / m ] [ pt / snow / w ] [ meta ] [ Server Status ]
Style: