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No. 2452317

>don't be stupid
>be a good citizen
>no non-americans

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>>2290116
>>2274262(/pol/shit op)

No. 2452324

Wait, why do I love this threadpic so much? Thanks for making the new thread, nona!

No. 2452346

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Threadpic hurts my eyes…

No. 2452414

>>2452317
Nobody even cares about the JFK files now despite them edging it for decades. People have been saying it was the CIA since forever. Did they think people would lose their minds nationwide about it?

No. 2452420

>>2452317
Oh shit, this is so cool.

No. 2452437

>>2452414
Did anything concrete even get released?

No. 2452456

>>2452437
No they literally just say
>he might have been in contact with the CIA
>he might have been in contact with the russians
>Also the people who researched and reported this? We dont know that either…

No. 2452471

Threadpic is hilarious 10/10
>>2452414
Only senior citizens (like our government officials) still think that the Kennedy assassination of all things is still, 80 years on, a big enough deal to distract people from the economical problems our nation is facing. Apparently two batches of documents have been released and frankly, not a lot of people are talking about it because there isn't a lot to say. The CIA basically fucked about trying to figure out Oswald's motivation and subsequently, didn't. It would be really interesting if they did release something substantial but for now this is just fluff.

No. 2452568

Anything interesting come out of the Kennedy files?

No. 2452593

>>2452568
From what I’ve read so far, they released a butt-ton of pages and re-released pages that had previously been released with redactions. Too soon to say for sure because nobody’s finished going through it all, but the new information comes down to this:
>prior redactions seem to have been superfluous and unnecessary, hiding things that weren’t really that sensitive or notable.
>the FBI had been keeping closer tabs on Oswald prior to the shooting than they’d let on, making them look kind of incompetent that they didn’t predict his plan more accurately.
>no information suggesting a second gunman or any real conspiracy past that.

No. 2452600

>>2452593
Also I might be confusing FBI and CIA, they do the same thing in my mind.

No. 2452671

>>2452600
FBI covers federal and inter-state crime in the USA. CIA works abroad, mostly looking for criminal and terrorist activity outside of the United States.

No. 2452861

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>>2452568
>>2452346
Sorry nonnie, the blingees are definitely funnier but I wanted to avoid cluttering the text so I went for a weird filter instead. You can hide the threadpic if you need to.
>>2452437
>>2452568
It's like 80,000 pages of Cold War-era government documents. If anyone has a few 100mg Addies, send them my way and I'll spend a few days combing through until I figure out how the CIA did it.

No. 2452869

JFK video makes me sad that’s a shitty way to die

No. 2452973

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Jesus fuck massive repeals of environmental regulations just happened and the estimated out comes are heinous for public health. Experts estimate by 2050, children will only be able to play outside 89 days out of the year, and cancers and heart disease are projected to go up too.

No. 2453015

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The budget cuts during this presidency are starting to become impossible for me to ignore. I try to stay out of politics and focus on things closest to me. But lately it's all relevant to myself and I do not like that. Picrel probably a tabloid site but can't he leave one group be? What is his plan?

No. 2453022

Tesla owners been crying every time this song come on lately.

No. 2453026

>>2453015
Embezzlement and outright theft kek. Take a look at Brazilian politicians for an example of how bad it can really get.

No. 2453029

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No. 2453036

>>2453015
imagine being A grown tax paying adult and thinking politics wont affect/impact you enough to care. Maybe you should've cared and maybe we wouldnt be here. Americans individualism and racism is what will end us all.

No. 2453038

>>2453029
the funniest part about this is this was all in Project 2025 but everyone who wasnt a leftist called it hogwash and then voted for a rapist AGAIN

No. 2453041

>>2453036
The reason to not care isn't because it doesn't effect you, it's because there are zero politicians in American electoralism who give the slightest fuck about representing anyone or solving any problems. And the few that do have no chance at winning because the misanthropes who just want job security weed them out.

No. 2453054

All this is showing me is that it's incredibly easy to just gut everything but incredibly hard to put it all back together.

No. 2453328

>>2453036
why are you blaming her for the presidential results kek? misery loves company i guess. politicians will always act in self interest and seldom for the greater good. i see nothing wrong with contributing to ethical matters in smaller, intimate ways. i didnt ask to be brought into this political rat shit rat race, and i don’t singlehandedly have the power to stop what is happening with the closures and national parks and libraries but i can act in smaller ways and do good the best way i know how. also nobody has enough time or power to dedicate every second to politics and hysterics and some retarded OCDness about fulfilling the perfect part in politics and shaming those who decide to do what they can and enjoy their life and immediate worries otherwise. you voted kamala, so why didnt you change the outcome?

No. 2453338

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I wish our country wasn't such a broken mess so that our thread could be fun like all the other country threads. It's sad that even here we don't really have anything that culturally unites us except fighting.(ai outside of containment)

No. 2453348

>>2453338
>fun like all the other country threads
The britbong one is a mess too.

No. 2453380

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>>2453338
There are anons ITT who are ultra blackpilled and can only post negativity. The awful truth is that the economy is improving and a majority of Americans think the country is on the right track even according to CNN polls.
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/16/trump-high-dems-low-new-poll

No. 2453381

>>2453380
The majority of people are dumber than a bag of rocks

No. 2453384

>>2453328
original anon here Yeah her response confused me for a second. I'm disabled mentally so I don't think telling me to partake in things is the own she thinks it is kek. I'm staying out of it because I lack the mental capacity to make judgement of things that affect people I cannot properly relate to. I thought I was being responsible by handling what's in front of me and not what I have no business dealing with.
>>2453036
My bad I fuckin guess? My vote in stuff like that would be equivalent to RNG. I don't think we want this.

No. 2453421

>>2452973
God they're so fucking stupid.

No. 2453447

>>2453380

>>44%

>>majority

Yes, our fellow Americans are dumb, and the economy isn't doing "better" either.

No. 2453518

>>2453380
>the economy is improving
for who? i still cant buy a house. i can barely pay rent. my groceries cost $200 a week

No. 2453521

>>2453447
>>2453380
>>2453518
Yeah this is bullshit… just more "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, everything's fine and nothing ever happens" as this dumpster fire rages on.

No. 2453527

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Megakek you all are so blatantly blackpilled and dooming. Eggs are back down, gas is down, what's the issue?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/17/business/economy-trump-wall-street/index.html

No. 2453528

>>2453380
Every person I know irl who voted Trump already hates him now. The only people who don't are accelerationist /pol/tards.

No. 2453558

>>2453528
And even some of them are starting to hate him for being an Isreali cockwarmer. Congrats to the retarded maga voters itt for ruining everything.

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>>2453527
Are you genuinely retarded or just think everyone in the american thread is? if you read more than the article title you'd realize they talk about how these supposed good signs are either not related to us policy (gas is due to china) or potentially signal the start of bigger issues.

No. 2453628

>>2453562
nta but what makes me angry still is that biden's economy was somehow better than it is currently. prices for everything were still sky high as they are now. nothing has been normal ever since the pandemic and its because these corporations realized they could just jack up the prices and call it inflation

No. 2453631

>>2453527
The fuck you mean eggs are down? I literally just went to Walmart last night and the cheap eggs were $4/dozen. They were $2/dozen this time last year. Same with gas, $3.87 last night, under $3 this time last year.

No. 2453869

Working a job that has me going to other people's homes has taken its toll on my sympathy for poor people in this country. I haven't even been at it a year yet and I can already count at least 30 houses that look like they survived war, with kids who looked malnourished and improperly clothed running around, but have brand new Hellcats, AMGs, BMWs, Harleys, Off roaders and even boats sitting in the garage (If not the backyard). And the men in these places all dress like slobs of course. Yesterday we had to go into the most ratchet neighborhood in my city, and our client was this guy who I would be amazed if he had a job at a gas station or something. He had horrific tattoos (some on his face) and could barely speak but in his absolute hovel he had a ridiculous display case with like 20 watches on their own little pedestals with a light up "Rolex" sign above it.
And of course he demanded I "don't touch that" when I entered that room. These retards always demand unnecessary trepidation when around their toys.
I can also remember one argument breaking out about which city to go see Upchurch in when their kids were all in ripped clothes.
I used to roll my eyes at the argument that poor people are dumb therefore the economy doesn't need to be reformed, but now I am starting to get it. My parents had much more stable incomes than these people and they weren't half as idiotic or selfish.

No. 2453883

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Please no recession… I was supposed to finally move out next year…

No. 2453885

>>2453883
ROUND TWO BABY

No. 2453887

>>2453631
Where do you live that cheap eggs are 4 dollars??? Where I'm at they're 5-8 dollars.

No. 2453889

>>2453883
If a recession hits I'm like fucked, like thoroughly, I will definitely lose my job and my department will probably close for good.

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No. 2453892

I paid six dollars for 12 eggs yesterday. I think we need to start looking for egg substitutes.

No. 2453903

>>2453528
Everyone i know who voted for him is thrilled

No. 2453905

>>2453562
It's CNN. Of course they are going to say all this stuff is bad ackshually. Do you pay any attention at all?

No. 2453908

>>2453885
I'm dooming and you joke around…

No. 2453912

This is what happens when we don't have Alfred in the threadpic

No. 2453913

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>>2453447
Democrats have the lowest approval rating in over 30 years. It's over. They are cooked. Nobody likes them, and nobody likes the people that are still allied with them. We might not tell you to your face, but we're judging you.

No. 2453915

>>2453905
Why did you or that anon use it as a source then

No. 2453918

>>2453913
Where'd you get this chart?

No. 2453919

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>>2452973
Sure this will happen any day now kek

No. 2453920

>>2453915
It wasn't me, but it is a fact that inflation is down and the economy is doing better and news outlets can't really hide that. Other anon probably just grabbed the first source.

No. 2453921

>>2453919
>2015 University of Cambridge says there'll be no arctic sea ice by 2015
Kek

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>>2453920
Not really, fed is saying the same stuff about inflation that they said when inflation was shit under Biden.

No. 2453927

>>2453919
Could you send me the source you found this screenshot from? I’m curious, I’d like to read it.

No. 2453932

>>2453919
These predictions are dramatic because their goal is to get funding for some organisation or policy proposal or whatever.

No. 2453933

>>2453913
Dems can swing it around by next election. If they drop troons and become more populist they can definitely sucker back in the lefties.

No. 2453934

>>2453933
The US election cycle really is just a pendulum.

No. 2453944

>>2453932
It's the kind of thing you notice more as you get older too. I'm almost 40 and I remember a lot of these headlines and doom sperging and when the date arrives and everything is fine they just push the date back again and doom sperg more.

No. 2453946

>>2453942
Nona I think they mean the one referring to climate change

No. 2453948

>>2453869
Yes I make a pretty good amount of money, enough to buy a home off of it. Coworkers will be penny pinching on food but the men all have like 8 cars (most of which don't work and one of which is the prize expensive one), and a boat or plane. The women all have shopping addictions.

And the men complain about what their wives spend but then go buy 60k trucks…I don't even care if someone has debt. Buy shit like furniture at least instead of flexing your credit while you live like a pig. Poor people are pathetic, but I also see the same attitude with rich people they just grew up with money and were shipped to college by their parents and magically got out making a lot. I have very little sympathy. Recently a guy got a new truck, had another kid with his wife, and was out home shopping. He got laid off.

No. 2453950

>>2453944
I don't doubt that humans have had an effect on the planet and that we're responsible for damage to natural ecosystems but it's really hard to care when it's doom o clock 24/7, and there's very little individuals can do about it. Change would have to take place at a global level with government and corporate backing, and that simply won't happen.

No. 2453951

>>2453933
There is no next election though

No. 2453955

>>2453919
>>2453944
NTA but you also have to remember that just because we're not living in the absolute worst case scenarios right now doesn't mean it's not an issue.

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No. 2453958

>>2453956
Thanks. I will admit that I wasn't expecting that poll from NBC kek.

No. 2453962

>>2453932
Yep, it's all about money. Solar panels and wind turbines aren't really better for the environment. But you can get 11 billion dollars from the government if you say everybody will die if they don't give you a bunch of money to install them. It's all just selling new products.

No. 2453963

>>2453962
Are you saying wind turbines aren't better for the environment because birds slam into them and die? Might as well say cars are bad for the environment because squirrels love diving under moving tires kamikaze style and ban them.

No. 2453972

>>2453963
I think it's more along the lines of "Wind turbines and solar panels take a lot of resources to produce and take a long time to recoup that investment" but kek

No. 2453973

>>2453963
Does a wind turbine or solar panel produce more energy than it takes to produce?

No. 2453976

>>2453972
This. It's the huge manufacturing footprint. Plus they are decommissioned rather rapidly as well. Then there's the transport. And on top of it there's the bird and whale deaths. Any benefit they have is very minor.

No. 2453977

>>2453973
Lol nope
But I'm all for more nuclear plants

No. 2453979

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I wish I could force every American to look at a media bias chart. The amount of absolute garbage one of my roommates parrots because she exclusively lives in the bottom corner is absurd and embarrassing for someone who’s theoretically smart enough to know better.

No. 2453980

>>2453977
How do you feel about geothermal or hydroelectric power? I think they're at the very least supplements to nuclear and traditional energy sources.

No. 2453984

>>2453958
NBC’s pretty reputable, and the idea of “uneducated moids think Trump is a great idea, educated women think Trump is a terrible idea” tracks with my personal experience.

No. 2453986

>>2453979
The real blackpill is that everything in this chart is awful and full of lies. You have organizations that actively conspired to hide Bidens dementia and the covid origin or something like daily mail that doesn't fact check whatsoever and it's just listed as "reliability varies"

No. 2453988

>>2453984
Yeah, I agree. I'm just surprised because NBC is somewhat left-leaning, though I suppose they're not technically the ones conducting the poll.

No. 2453989

>>2453518
Buying a house isn't the standard for whether or not an economy is performing well. You could buy a house, but it would involve moving to a LCOL area which you probably don't want to do.

No. 2453991

>>2453984
There have been a number of studies showing similar things recently going around Twitter. The general trend is that white degree holding woman are showing extremely high levels of break away from the mean compared to all other groups. That's not just because they are "smart" and understand things better than men and minorities, this is demonstrating high levels of cloistered groupthink that is specific to a small group.

No. 2453999

>>2453991
Or just that current bills are particularly dangerous to women, and that’s easiest to see if you have an education. For example, the SAVE Act would take away suffrage for most married American women without passports, since their birth certificate will have a different last name than their current legal one. It’s easier to make that connection if you’re educated and men (esp. uneducated ones) are less likely to care about taking away women’s rights.

No. 2454013

>>2453999
Yeah sure lol. Everybody else can correctly recognize this group as the craziest bitches in the world, while they're convinced they alone see everything clearly and everything else is wrong. Cope more(infighting)

No. 2454014

>>2453518
>my groceries cost $200 a week
Tf are you eating? When I was living in the Bay Area last year my groceries rarely topped $200/month.

No. 2454016

>>2454013
>White degree holding women
>"The craziest bitches in the world"
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

No. 2454017

>>2454013
Found the moid(scrotefoiling)

No. 2454030

>>2454017
>Everybody that doesn't like me is a MAN(report and ignore)

No. 2454032

>>2454030
It’s easier to believe that than to believe in a woman who’s against women’s suffrage in 2025.

No. 2454042

>>2454030
I'm legit offended that you immediately started sperging about muh scary college women and still somehow thought you'd blend in.

No. 2454043

>>2454014
Not sure if nona is shopping just for herself or not. $200 a week would be a lot for a single person but not necessarily a family of four.

No. 2454066

>>2453989
I live in a low cost rural area and I can't buy a house, even the shittiest crackhouse is at least $100k. I guess they'll sell you a pile of dirt for $50k KEK what housing market are you shopping in??

No. 2454077

What are petsitting rates where you guys are? Apparently it varies drastically by area. I live in a HCOL area and some rich people will refuse to pay more than $50 for someone to watch their pet. Offered $115 a night to watch two big dogs and housesit, but boarding places charge more for less care.

No. 2454082

>>2454014
>last year
found the discrepancy

i'm not at that nona's level of expense yet but it's because i cook cheap slop meals and freeze/hoard leftovers. but it has definitely gone up. I can make $100 last for a week if I'm buying exclusively food-groceries but as soon as I need to refresh staples like cat litter, paper towels, cleaning supplies, laundry detergent…yeah, it can easily hit $200 per week.

No. 2454089

>>2453919
>>2453921
I'm not saying we should all doom and kill ourselves but what is this a notes app screenshot lol. The only thing I can find by Cambridge is this https://www.cisl.cam.ac.uk/resources/sustainability-horizons/august-2020/loss-of-arctic-sea-ice which says that they think that Arctic summers won't have ice by 2035. Most of these statements don't even cite an organization or a person which makes it hard to verify. Idk. People get things wrong all the time. But anecdotally, the climate around me is very different to what it was when I was a kid
>>2453891
We really have someone posting "hoe math" screenshots in here. Ew lol

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>>2454066
Good news! Deporting illegals will lower housing costs for American citizens!

No. 2454109

>>2454097
Come on man. what do you even get out of baiting this thread… why can't we just have fun and be burgers without you shitting everywhere…

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I've been eating Mcdonalds multiple times a week so that I remember what the nuggets taste like before they make the happy meal cost $50.

No. 2454119

>>2454097
You do realize that non-citizens can own land right?

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>>2453979
>Barstool Sports is a news source.
This is the scariest thing on this chart.

No. 2454123

Burger gripe: I fucking hate ups. I fucking hate ups. Ups is such a dogshit piece of cock mail agency. Why the FUCK do I need to sign for every package coming through? Why the FUCK don't they fucking knock? Why the fuck is it AMAZON'S FAULT THEY ARENT LEAVING THE PACKAGE UPS IS DELIVERING IT. We need to demolish ups and replace it all with usps. Usps doesn't give a fuck about anything they'll ship weed out even in illegal states kek fuck ups. Down with ups.

No. 2454127

>>2454123
Samefag I'm going to bitch the fuck out of this ups rep on the phone as soon as I can get through FUCK YOUUUUUU FUCK PRIVATIZED MAIL DELIVERY THE GAYEST COCKSUCKING THING IN THE WORLD.

No. 2454135

>>2453979
This "bias" thing is a total meme.
I hate Hasan but if you were to just watch him and not "counter-balance" it by also watching The Daily Wire you would be more informed than if you did because The Daily Wire lies about absolutely everything they report. You shouldn't watch Hasan, but "partisan bias" isn't why news is such fucking trash. It's because journalists have become fucking horrible at their job over the last 50 years.

No. 2454142

>>2453979
It’s scary how untrustworthy and biased media is these days. So many Americans are legitimately retarded because of the media we consume. It also greatly concerns me how many people only get their news from one source or one angle. People like that exist in their own little universe (echo chamber) where any kind of dissent or variation is punished. Hot take: it’s actually good to talk to different kinds of people, learn different perspectives, and engage with people who think differently than you. Vidrel is by a bong but pretty spot on. I wish our news sources didn’t fuck suck.

No. 2454176

>>2454135
Something like 90% of journalists at major outlets are Democrat, it's crazy to not think there is some kind of bias

No. 2454182

>>2454176
Nta but isn't that because most people with college degrees are democrats

No. 2454184

>>2454135
I feel like you picked a bad example kek. I agree the chart doesn’t seem that accurate, but I think anyone who only watched Hasan would probably be so retarded it’s frightening to think about.

No. 2454190

>>2454182
It's slightly more, but def not enough to account for that much difference

No. 2454194

>>2454182
NTA but dumb take imo. You don’t even have to have a college degree to be a newscaster or a commentator. Plenty don’t. I’m not sure why it’s so hard for anons to admit that most mainstream media has a heavy left/liberal bias. The effect of this is that people who don’t want that start turning to Joe Rogan or Ben Shapiro or Andrew Tate for all their political news and social commentary because the desire for a counter-perspective and media without a Dem bias will always exist. The media is a liberal establishment and it has been that way for a long time.

No. 2454202

>>2454184
I agree but that's because Hasan is fucking retarded, not because he is biased. The brainrot he subjects his fantards to isn't subsided by then watching Tucker Carlson
>>2454176
Okay, and?
>>2454194
>You don’t even have to have a college degree to be a newscaster or a commentator.
To write and edit their prompts and stories you absolutely have to be.

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>>2454194
It's too ingrained into their worldview that everybody in the mainstream establishment agreeing with them must mean that they are correct and a good person. Admitting there is bias means those sources might not be such good and intellectual people.

No. 2454208

>>2454202
…Hasan is definitely biased. His whole persona is being a tankie (while literally being a millionaire kek). No offense, but do you understand what a bias in media is?

No. 2454213

>>2454204
>>2454194
Christ I wasn't saying there is no bias I was just saying that's probably why journalists are usually democrats. Specifically journalism is very entwined with academia which is a liberal institution as well. Where did I or anyone say that journalists are "such good and intellectual people"? Do you think you're on reddit right now?

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>>2453979
If you think anything in this chart is a news source in the year of our lord 2025, you are not gonna make it. One of the "least biased" news outlets literally creates narratives ahead of time to promote based on what the corporate owners want. They are not reporting facts, they are creating entertainment. They are telling you a story they want you to believe for their benefit.

No. 2454220

>>2454213
Anon said it's common on this board for people to think and she is right. I'm just agreeing with that sentiment. I didn't mean you specifically

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No. 2454226

>>2454213
>Do you think you're on reddit right now?
Kek. I was just replying to what you said. You truly don’t have to reply if you don’t want to have a discussion.
>Specifically journalism is very entwined with academia which is a liberal institution as well.
Exactly as I was saying. It’s a liberal institution. That wasn’t a condemnation, just an observation. No need to get butthurt because random anons on LC disagreed with your take, maybe because of the way you worded it.

No. 2454230

>>2454226
What is the "take" being disagreed with, that most people with college degrees are democrats? Lol

No. 2454231

>>2454194
Yeah man, mainstream media has a left/liberal bias. Totally…it's not like news stations and local news in particular has been gradually being monopolized by right-wing corpos for some time now.

No. 2454236

>>2454222
Luckily, it can't be completely dismantled without Congress's approval

No. 2454244

>>2454236
Why should it be? The department of education hasn't made any improvements in education for its entire existence. Why should it stay?

No. 2454249

>>2454230
Ok anon, I reread everything and yeah, I think I overreacted because I thought you were being aggro. My bad. I do think it’s overly simplistic to say that legacy media leans left because of college degrees (I think that’s probably a much smaller factor), but that was my only disagreement.

No. 2454254

Chances of martial law on April 20th?

No. 2454278

>>2454208
I do understand. I never claimed Hasan isn't biased. I am saying his bias isn't the reason why he is shit. (He is shit because he is really fucking dumb, and a creep)
There are no truly unbiased sources. Fox News for example isn't awful because they aren't open to democrat opinions or whatever. (some of their anchors are). It's because most of their talking heads push blatantly forged evidence, lies, and incompetent research that makes a narrative look good. You aren't getting an "enhanced" view of things by consuming political media in a bi-partisan fashion. I can't name a single reputable pro-MAGA source because every last thing their shills push is completely false.

No. 2454289

>>2454278
Well, that just shows you're still buying into the msm narrative. You can't say every single thing is false because that's simply not true. There are a lot of things they report on weeks before the msm admits it's real. The liberal msm also lies and makes up research. I know because I started looking into the research they were quoting. It's no different from all the "reporting" on troon science.

No. 2454290

>>2453979
>Al Jazeera ranked above CNN
Is CNN that bad? I don't use it but I've heard how Al Jazeera was criticized for its bias towards Islamic movements and it's coverage of the Syrian Civil war.

No. 2454298

So nobody realizes the op pic is a /pol/ meme? Or is everyone just ignoring it?

No. 2454302

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Trust in media has collapsed - even non partisan people increasingly no longer trust the media. If you still trust them, you are in a shrinking group.

No. 2454303

>>2454298
why on earth would i willingly browse 4shit, especially /pol/

No. 2454316

>>2454290
That’s pretty crazy. I do think CNN is pretty biased, but Al Jareeza is a state-run outlet for Qatar (an authoritarian monarchy), and it’s basically a propaganda machine for Islamist movements like you said. I looked up the source of the chart, and it’s from Ad Fonts Media, which seems to be advertising company, so they’re collecting data to sell to advertisers so they can reach their target audience. It’s likely hard to accurately evaluate media bias based on whatever cookies they’re harvesting, so I would definitely take it with a grain of salt.

No. 2454329

>>2454303
You don't need to browse their board to run into /pol/ type memes. They literally insert their "based" takes and humor anywhere they can. I guess if nobody else sees it then there's no point in reporting it, but some poltard is getting his kicks

No. 2454335

>>2454316
Samefag, but now that I know the source of the chart, these bias rankings make more sense. The chart isn’t necessarily reflecting the content of the media, but breath of its audience. For the Al Jareeza/CNN example, Al Jareeza is going to be very biased, but it’s also widely read around the world and covers events that non-Muslim media isn’t covering, so there’s going to be a wide demographic that reads their articles. Meanwhile, no conservative in America is going to turn on CNN. They’re going to watch Fox News. That means the audience of CNN is much narrower and more politicized on a left-right spectrum.

No. 2454339

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>>2454254
Zero to none. Drumpf will continue his roaring rampage of revenge, and the Democrats will continue to shit their pants and do nothing. They have Soros-approved judges ready to stretch the definition of their jurisdictions to the Moon, and that's basically the only counter-attack they can muster. The fact that this will certainly lead to an executive order placing extreme limitations on the judiciary branch has not occured to them, because they have no long-term plans.
>>2454109
I'm so sorry nonnie, but the fact that there are a few anons who can't resist working themselves into a frothing rage at the thought of an actual woman disagreeing with their spicy hot Antifa-tier takes is irresistible to me in turn. If it's any comfort, I'm almost certain that the ones who refuse to admit they are not living in the Christofascist hellscape they so feared are actually trannies.

No. 2454351

>>2454335
Wow, that's really interesting. Thank you for breaking it down.
Thinking about it, I wonder if you could even have a real bias chart. Everything is biased to someone. Who gets to decide what isn't biased?

No. 2454410

>>2454339
Ayrt and I've been trying to decipher the second half of your post for like 5 minutes and I'm still not sure what you mean but I'll give it my best shot. For the record I'm not a leftist either but I don't see how saying that the housing market is pretty bad in low cost places too is worthy of being baited or a "spicy antifa-tier take" to be completely honest. Either way there are a million leftist websites on the internet you could be trolling right now, why do you have to bait on this one? Also, where I live it is no grand shock for a true and honest woman to be rightwing, maybe you should move out of Portland kek

No. 2454414

at this point i think the number one sign of having anger problems is owning a big fucking white truck. there isn't a driver in america that hasn't been psychotically accosted by a man in a big white truck.

No. 2454426

>>2454244
Do you genuinely think Trump will do anything to better public schooling which is what most of America's youth attends? Do you really?

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>>2454410
Sorry again nonnie, I phrased that poorly, and don't worry, I'm in the free state of Florida and doing fine. Let me word that better: there's a few extreme far-left anons on this board. They consistently overreact to even very mild "centrist" opinions, like "maybe banning trannies from federal buildings is a good thing actually, even if Nancy Mace has shitty stupid opinions." I find these overreactions very amusing, and when they leave the containment threads and come here to piss and moan about Cheeto Hitler and his pet retards, I can't resist annoying them. Like look at this: >>2454426
She's literally asking for a funny response! And so, I find their bait as irresistible as they do mine. Sorry for shitting up the thread, I'll try to keep my shitposting fingers in check for a while.

No. 2454464

>>2454463
No offense but you seem deranged, and this is coming from someone who voted for trump in 2016.

No. 2454473

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>>2454463
>I'm addicted to ragebait! It's just the culture!
this is the shit that is destroying this country. No one can have genuine conversations with one another, it's all about getting a rise for attention as opposed to just… You know… Talking like adults

No. 2454476

No such thing as a lcol area if you adjust for local wages.

No. 2454481

>>2454463
Kek this is so autistic it’s funny

No. 2454488

At least she was aware she was shitting up the thread

No. 2454489

>>2454463
First ayrt and I won't chew you out or anything but you have to keep in mind, you and I don't actually know the political positions of any of the anons on this board unless they point it out. For example the second anon you quoted sounds more like a regular dem than "extremely far left" kek. Why can't we just have a grownup discussion about these things without you trolling? I don't like "orange man bad" non-contribution posts either but baiting leftanons only generates more of them. If you disagree with someone you could either explain why you think they're wrong or just move on

No. 2454494

>>2454254
Anyone?

No. 2454505


No. 2454595

>>2454014
Anon I moved from the Bay Area to a red state and the groceries are so much more expensive out here away from the farms in CA. I miss the cheap fresh food I used to have access to.

No. 2454600

>>2454254
On Easter? I doubt it.

No. 2454795

>>2453999
>"Women who have an education just see things more clearly"
>spouts off conspiracy theory from tiktok

No. 2454903

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>>2454254
Okay since nobody else gave a serious answer who isn't just a trump dicksucker I'll bite…there's no real way to be sure but it's not out of the realm of possibility. Trump has already proven he doesn't care about laws, and he fucking got away with inciting an insurrection. Certain anons will call it conspiritard or "doomer" shit, but the speculation stems from the fact that Pete Hegseth and Kristi Noem are supposed to submit a report based on one of the executive orders that is about whether to invoke the Insurrection Act regarding the southern border (picrel). Btw it's worth noting that Trump previously tried to invoke the Insurrection Act during the George Floyd protests but failed. Nowadays he only keeps sycophants around him and fires everybody else, so he probably wouldn't get the same pushback if he made an attempt again. Again, I'm not saying that it's happening for sure, just that this theory didn't come out of nowhere.
>>2454302
Ngl I find this poll pretty funny considering how much Republicans love Fox News, which is literally one of the most (if not the most) popular "news" channels. Do they not consider Fox News mainstream or what? I can understand not trusting mass media (I actually feel this way myself), but if they're saying that while watching Fox they're just full of shit kek
>>2454298
Okay I thought the op pic seemed fucking weird but I didn't know it was a /pol/ meme since I've never gone onto /pol/. I can't say I'm surprised considering some of the posts in here

No. 2454915

>>2454463
>florida
>doing fine
Your state is literally run by migrants, and Desantis fools around with 17 year olds and could give less than two shits about you. His buddy was all chummy with him until he dropped him and posted that photo of him with a 17 year old. I have been to florida, and it is an absolute shithole. No wonder you cant differentiate your monolith of "far left" anons with normal people just asking you simple questions. Your guys IQ is literally ranked 38, you cannot even articulate your words correctly. Are you ESL or something? Are you an immigrant like most of floridians? LOOOOOOOL(bait)

No. 2455020

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>>2454481
It's a blessing and a curse.

No. 2455024

>>2455020
Seems like it's just the curse part.

No. 2455041

>>2455024
The poster is a literal retard with a single digit IQ. It’s not autism, it’s mental retardation that probably came from her beloved DeSantis having deregulations and cuts for climate change (like the deregulation of gas pipelines) affecting her iq. I guess the lead exposure has gotten to her so bad that it decreased her IQ.

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>>2455020
I just read your posts. None were difficult to understand and I agree with your points. It's confusing bc when anons used to be called retarded by multiple other anons, it actually meant that was true. I think this nona is baiting, in the same way a person would be "baiting" if they posted an honest opinion in their bot-hjiacked local subreddit. The only difference is that this anon is aware this thread is full of shill opinions, whereas most people are usually surprised to find their local subreddit doesn't represent their community, leave and never come back. The spirit of lc persists in this nona >>2455020 as she is still looking for keks in this bleak darkness that you all have created around yourselves

No. 2455057

>>2455046
Yeah man everyone who isn't right-wing must be a bot or a shill, how enlightening and rooted in reality.

No. 2455058

>>2455057
>Yeah man everyone who isn't right-wing must be a bot or a shill, how enlightening and rooted in reality.
>isn't
There is one anon who isn't like the rest of you and you guys dogpiled her and called her a retard

No. 2455059

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>>2455058
She literally admitted to baiting and shitting up the thread? Kek wtf

No. 2455060

>>2455059
It shits up the thread bc she already knows how you guys are going to react to her centrist/mainstream opinions

No. 2455062

>>2455060
I don't see any centrist opinions or discussion being had, just retards getting mad when people rightfully criticize or question Trump and republicans

No. 2455063

>>2455062
Anon basically said there are people who are too emotionally invested in the trump circus, which there are. She finds it funny but I'm pretty tired of it, after all these years

No. 2455078

When people cry over trump rather than making small impacts like volunteering at a women’s shelter or an animal sanctuary or some other conservation efforts, is it just to make them feel as though they are involved or doing something? Also makes me wonder how they have enough time to be so heavily involved and hysteric over it all. You mean they aren’t working or have other obligations or even hobbies or values? All their free time they use to attend the trump circus?

No. 2455080

>>2455078
>is it just to make them feel as though they are involved or doing something
No? It's because people legitimately feel as though the country has no future/is only getting worse and that they have no way to impact what is occurring.
>You mean they aren’t working or have other obligations or even hobbies or values? All their free time they use to attend the trump circus?
Crying on the internet takes like 5 minutes max

No. 2455081

>>2455063
If politics weren't discussed in this thread it would pretty much be dead, but even so you could try to get them to redirect Trump hate to the Trump hate thread which was made for similar reasons >>>/ot/2382949

No. 2455088

>>2455081
It sucks that we have nothing but politics to talk about. We are basically if a bpdemon was a country. No identity, just rage and attention seeking

No. 2455089

>>2454795
How is this a conspiracy? It takes two seconds to look up the bill's page kek. You sure showed those ignorant educated women.

No. 2455093

Can we talk about restaurants we like or animals in our states or places we like to hike or cool exhibits or…

No. 2455111

>>2455093
>look on Google Maps for new restaurants to visit with my friend
>two that I wanted to try are permanently closed
It's sad.

No. 2455120

>>2455093
I already said this in the Southern US thread but I fucking love Eastern Hognoses.

No. 2455142

>>2455120
they are such stupid lil snooted worms. i agree with you, nona, good taste.

No. 2455144

>>2455120
My favorite thing about them is that they're venomous and they still chose this as their defense mechanism.

No. 2455154

>>2454903
>he fucking got away with inciting an insurrection.
It's 2025, take the media dick out of your mouth, this is embarrassing
Fox news is mainstream but it's 1 channel compared to like, 50 lib channels. But libs never shut up about how that 1 channel is the source of all problems.

No. 2455162

>>2455089
The whole bill is just to prevent non citizens voting, which is rampant, but which the media completely denies. The leftist machine riles up its base by telling them it will affect you, when it obviously won't, because women's suffrage is literally a constituional amendment that can't be taken away by a random act. They just don't want their vote factory taken away and tell their voters anything to make them mad about it and defend it.
>t. Used to be left, know how this works

No. 2455168

>>2455154
What's embarrassing are your attempts at gaslighting nonas by shaming them for being concerned about the current administration. I would be ashamed to call myself a Republican now.

>>2455162
You mean like how they weren't going to touch social security, Medicare, or abortion rights? Anyone who believes Trump and his cronies at face value at this point is a lost cause. Trump has no issue overturning constitutional amendments thinks he fancies himself king turd of shit island these days.

No. 2455171

>>2455162
How do non citizens vote? Also funny how most illegal immigrants tend to be right leaning anyway so by that logic I guess they're helping both the dems and the cons.

No. 2455176

>>2455162
>non citizens voting, which is rampant
Wasn't this disproven several threads ago around election time?

No. 2455181

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>>2455168
Social security is in desperate need of reform, but making it lose less money is not the same as getting rid of it (which i would glad if he did anyway, it's literally a ponzi scene??)

No. 2455185

>>2455176
Its only "disproven" if you trust the msm on the issue. Just like it's "disproven" that tranny surgeries are bad.
Personally I've spoken to non citizen that vote, and know at least two people that vote for dead relatives. So it definitely happens more than 0.

No. 2455189

>>2455181
>literally a ponzi scheme
Oh honey, no. Try not parroting your gay daddies for once.

No. 2455196

>>2455171
Some states don't require voter ID so anyone can walk in and vote.

No. 2455197

>>2455154
It's 2025, how about you stop pretending right-wingers are so oppressed like right-wing media, journalism, and news outlets don't exist? You act like media is only biased for leftists when that is the furthest thing from the truth. Rightoids have their own MSM that lies to them constantly but somehow only the leftists are lying. And you know that Fox News isn't the only one, Sinclair Broadcast Group literally owns ALL local news stations

No. 2455199

>>2455189
This has been known for decades, it has nothing to do with Trump. How old are you? Why are you defending social security of all things? This has literally been a bipartisan issue for decades, probably since it's inception.

No. 2455206

>>2455196
It's really crazy when you think about how every other country in the world has id for voting. But in America, it's somehow an issue.
>>2455189
Here's Clinton talking about privatizing social security. It's been a problem for a long time. But if Trump said such a thing, the reeing would be unending. https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2016/10/23/clinton-might-be-moving-toward-social-security-privatization/

No. 2455210

>>2455197
The problem is leftists act like their media is the only media with authority when it couldn't be farther from the truth. Your media lied to you about trannies, it lied about covid, it lied about the war in Iraq, it lied about Biden being demented. You can complain about right wing media all you want, but at least be honest. Right wingers had to literally build their own alternative media system since they can't get hired by the traditional outlets. That's not the same as having a ready made state media apparatus with global reach.

No. 2455235

>>2455210
Lol, right wingers made their own media because they couldn't handle constantly being fact-checked by MSM outlets back in 2016. You claim left-wing media lies but a lot of what gets regurgitated in right wing media circles is a lie or a distortion of the truth. Facts favor the left, which is why all fact-checking websites are despised by right-wingers. And then you will claim the fact-checker is also a lie. Everything that goes against the right-wing narrative is a lie. Fake news!

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>>2455235
>facts
>MSM

No. 2455248

>>2455246
Yeah yeah, everyone who doesn't agree is a glowie, a shill, a bot etc we get it

No. 2455253

>>2455235
Fact checkers also say trooning out is a cure for mental illness and troons are women. Every expert, fact checker, and mainstream media source absolutely insists this is true. If they're wrong on that, what else are they wrong about?

No. 2455257

ALL MEDIA IS BIASED. Dumbass culture wars pit us against each other. The reality is that journalism has become increasingly politicized, and you should always consider the bias of the source. This is basic media literacy.

No. 2455259

>>2455253
And right wing media says you can cure Covid by injecting Ivermectin, Sandy Hook is a lie, and that there is a democratic child sex cult in a pizzeria basement. That's why you read from multiple sources and not just blindly regurgitate culture war talking points.

No. 2455262

>>2455235
You have to understand how much of this stuff is a matter of perspective. The left wing media says something is true, based on a study or because an expert said so or something. The right wing says it's false because the study is bad, or it goes against anecdotal evidence/history. The left wing slanders this as "misinformation".
It's just different interpretations of facts and events and weighing different points of evidence differently. The MSM puts a huge amount of trust in social science studies and experts. The alternative media puts more trust in what they can see and what they know from history. A lot of right wingers are actually very well read, reading many classic books that talk about the problems humanity has always had. They put less stock in the latest social science study that came out last week that says we need to do things completely the opposite or you're a nazi. Occasionally, those are actually right, but it's not that often when you really dig into it (replication crisis)

No. 2455264

>>2455259
>you can cure Covid by injecting Ivermectin
Nobody ever said this, and ivermectin DOES work for covid, just not by injection
>sandy hook didn't happen
Only one fringe outlet ever said this
>pizza gate
Honestly, this is probably true. You think CNN is going to tell you the truth about elite pedophiles?

No. 2455268

>>2455264
Anyone who dismisses pedo-rings are shills, totally ignorant, or insanely brainwashed.

No. 2455270

>>2455259
I'll elaborate on the ivermectin thing because it's really fun. The entire reason it was demonized by the media is because it actually does work for covid. But to legally push the vaccine as a mandate and get everyone to take it and get government funding, there could not be any alternative treatments for the disease in question. So big pharma, who owns the media, spun up the media to demonize cheap ivermectin so they could make billions of dollars from pushing the vaccine. Your media makes a large amount of its revenue from pharma ads (25% or so, I think), so they obviously aren't going to tell you that, and instead spin up a bunch of hysteria about injecting bleach. It's all about the money, anon.

No. 2455276

>>2453979
>MONSANTO.NEWS
For real?

No. 2455277

>>2455268
It's kind of crazy how many people still trust the media in 2025. I thought such people were lost causes, but it's possible some of them are just young and haven't realized how bad it is? I'm really curious.

No. 2455280

>>2455270
Link a single peer reviewed study that confirms your claims. All I can find are studies that confirm that opposite of what you're claiming.
>>2455262
Right-wingers are proven to be less educated than libs if you want to talk about 'well-read' but I know you will just say some shit about school being a liberal institution/scam, so what does it matter.

No. 2455284

>>2455264
>pizza gate was probably real
god is speaking to you through this post, it is time to take your meds and get some sleep.

No. 2455285

>>2455280
Education is different from intelligence.

No. 2455287

>>2455257
Nonna I regret to inform you that they stopped teaching media literacy sometime in the mid-late 2000s, depending on your school district. Some younger anons here have likely never been taught.

No. 2455291

>>2455284
nta and I don't believe they were operating out of a pizza restaurant with no basement, but pedo rings are absolutely real and don't get enough media attention

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No. 2455294

>>2455284
Yeah, and epstein hung himself. And ghislaine maxwell was convicted for trafficking nobody. Just facts

No. 2455296

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>>2455291
>no basement

No. 2455298

>>2455291
Pedo rings are absolutely real. Are they being run by the government out of a fake pizzeria or furniture company? No. You're more likely to find the ringleaders of physical operations outside of the country and their material being distributed via the dark web. Everyone knows these types of organizations exist, leftists included, but only the truly stupid and/or deranged fell for pizzagate.

No. 2455299

>>2455280
Quick question: what do you think "peer reviewed" implies? Because it just means someone looked at it and said yeah, I guess that looks ok. a ton of fraudulent studies are peer reviewed. It doesn't really mean that much.

No. 2455302

>>2455298
John mcafee one hacked the US government by sending them bugged laptops. He discovered that the US government was the world's largest human trafficker.

No. 2455303

>>2455296
yes anon i'm sure they literally had 50,000 tomatoes rotting in their vast magically disappearing basement and were not referring in any possible way to storing tomatoes at the farm where they were grown - after all 'harvest parties' at the local pizzeria are just a normal part of average American life! kek

No. 2455308

>>2455301
>'shangri-la exists right under your feet! wake up sheeple!'
>'what? that sounds made up.'
>'what makes you so sure, huh?! prove it!'

funnily enough it's the person making the insane claims who is generally tasked with providing evidence that what they say is true.

No. 2455312

are you guys still talking about pizzagate?? it’s almost been 10 years now

No. 2455313

>>2455296
>>2455292
>file names
Are you the same anon who used a /pol/ threadpic? I know what you are lol

No. 2455314

>>2455312
if they are not the victims of some nebulous deep state villainous cancel culture oppression fantasy at all times then i genuinely don't think these people have any sense of identity.

No. 2455315

>>2455303
I'm honestly not invested in pizzagate, but I have no reason to not believe it, either. The media isn't going to tell you this stuff either way. This is the same media that shut down epstein stories with hard evidence. I don't personally know if they have a basement, but i have literally no reason the believe the media when they say they don't have a basement. The media lies constantly about everything and probably didn't investigate any of this at all.

No. 2455317

>>2455315
>i didn't research it at all myself but being completely oblivious is all the justification i need to believe something

america is truly doomed lmao.

No. 2455318

>>2455313
The pizza one was pulled off of Twitter five minutes ago. I have no idea what you're talking about.(ban evasion)

No. 2455320

>>2455313
Don't most anons use a random string of numbers as filenames to better anonymize their posts? Not a lot of wordy filenames around here.

No. 2455324

>>2455257
All media is biased and has always been politicized. Newspapers just used to be more upfront with who owned them and what political interests they were more slanted towards. Journalists never had integrity and it was always about money over the truth. I wish the world movies portrayed about the media was real. There is no left wing media in the United States. The liberal bullshit being spouted out is basically mild right wing bullshit anyway.

No. 2455325

>>2455298
Focusing solely on the pizzeria and basement is insanely retarded. If you actually look into the owner, his Instagram, and connections and still wanna spit and foam out the mouth about how simple and stupid it all is, you must be either a shill or incapable of thinking for yourself.

No. 2455327

>>2455320
I could be wrong, but if you look at the file names of those posts and OP, they’re all 100000xxxx, not just any random numbers. Seems like a chronic baiter.

No. 2455328

>>2455292
That article has been debunked countless times and Lucy Kerr and Flavio Cadegiani are literally funded by Vitamedic which is an Ivermectin manufacturer lmao

No. 2455330

>>2455328
There have been multiple studies at this point anon, if you looked into it. And how is that any worse than all the studies paid for by big pharma? Most studies are paid for by somebody, they don't just appear

No. 2455332

>>2455315
>The media isn't going to tell you this stuff either way
>implying you need to be told something by a media outlet before confirming if it's true instead of using logic, common sense, verifiable sources (hint: not some tiktokker off their meds and not /pol/fags from 4chins) and critical thinking

It was literally a meme created to troll the altright that got out of hand because /polfags/ and boomers are so easy to get hyped up… lolihaetpizza, anyone? From there pizza became associated with lolis and someone spun it into a conspiracy about grand pedo rings operating outside of pizzeria basements to both further a political agenda (because only Dems and Hollywood can be pedos, completely dismissing the Catholic Church) and have a good laugh. I agree that pedo rings are absolutely really but it knows no sole political affiliation.

No. 2455334

>>2455327
That's probably because they come from pol, but that doesn't mean it's the same person. There are a ton of pol images floating around Twitter with number filenames.

No. 2455336

>>2455332
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Where did you even get this stuff?

No. 2455337

>>2455325
By that same logic, I must be running SpaceX out of my living room because I once dated a techbro. take your meds and don't believe everything you read online, simpleton.(infighting)

No. 2455338

>>2455315
i honestly agree with you anon, it’s just that, as i said before, it’s almost been an entire decade since, at this point you gotta accept that people choose to be ignorant to make themselves feel better. like, the wayfair child trafficking shit never even got settled, the company just ignored potential customers noticing how some pillows would cost over $100,000 and have these unique missing children’s names and when you tried to buy them, you had to give them a special password for the money to go through. and then people just stopped talking about it

No. 2455340

>>2455337
If you read the original article it's pretty clear he's talking about a basement at the restaurant that they can grab ingredients from.

No. 2455342

>>2455336
>t. was actually there to see where it originated since 2007

I don't know what youtube video or rabbithole the rest of you guys found out about it from but it's like no one can put two and two together. Regardless, believing pizzagate is absolutely retarded, enough said.

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>>2455331
There's a lot of studies proving otherwise and the only one you linked was funded by Vitamedic so I'm just going to discard it.

No. 2455344

>>2455337
By what logic? The fact that James Alefantis is a pederast? You haven't done any research and it shows.

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>>2455338
This is the playbook. When people start talking about the elite pedo rings, the media smears everybody involved and tells them to stop looking and that they are stupid for thinking there's anything there. The media does not actually investigate any of the claims.

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>>2455342
>>2455336
Even if you choose to refute the origins, if you just think about it, it's easy to connect the dots. But people would rather let their political tribalism get in the way of the truth because it's fun to have a boogeyman to blame everything on

No. 2455347

>>2455334
It’s definitely the same person. All of florida chan’s posts have the same ideological talking points, same dose of autism, and identical file names. Just go back through the thread, she’s highly identifiable.

No. 2455348

>>2455332
>because /polfags/ and boomers are so easy to get hyped up
This is the case like 99.99% of the time and it's hilarious to watch

No. 2455349

You know what I don't get about right-wing conspiracies? It's all dependent on elite billionaires secretly running the country so then they go ahead and elect actual elite billionaires to run the country kek. Like Trump wouldn't also be involved in these hypothetical politic satanic cabal child sex rings when they would hypothetically exist. Trump was friends with Diddy and Epstein.

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>>2455343
If there's a lot of studies for both things, maybe the evidence isn't so solid either way? If you look into most issues, this is usually the case - you can find studies that support any side of an issue.

No. 2455351

>>2455349
THIS A BILLION FUCKING TIMES! "Fuck the elites except the ones on my team because they're totally different and they care about fixing what's wrong" kek

No. 2455357

>>2455351
Trump and co. are their comfort billionaires

No. 2455358

>>2455351
Statistically speaking, some of them have to be more on our side than others. It's a bit childish to just believe all rich people are evil and they all have the same evil motives.

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>>2455340
>we harvest a whole crop of tomatoes

Hmmmmm. Where do you grow 10 tons of tomatoes? The parking lot of the pizzeria? No, a farm! Where do you process and can those tomatoes? A cannery! Might you store those on-site until they are shipped to the buyer? Yes! Because the average restaurant would never even build a storage room that could store TEN TONS' worth of sauce!

The store does not have a basement, has never had a basement, people have pulled up blueprints from the building permits used to construct the pizzeria in order to verify this. You got fooled because you didn't use the bare minimum of your own brain power and you didn't bother to look it up because you like fantasizing and seething about pedo rings running the country while pretending you're 'the smart one' for ignoring all of the basic logic in front of you. Seek mental health services. Sorry it has to come from a stranger like this.

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>>2455337
>>2455298
>>2455284
Holy logical fallacies batman!

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>>2455349
Exactly, kek. Peter Thiel too. The Republican Party is a tech oligarchy at this point.

No. 2455363

>>2455358
Rich people don't care about you they care about becoming more rich

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>>2455348
And yet when there's actual evidence of Russian or other foreign election interference, our politicians being bought out, pedo coverups, and other devious shit they will deny the hell out of it with their dying breath because it's really all about choosing what they want to believe or are comfortable with. We need another great trolling effort, the pizza's long been stale

No. 2455366

>>2455349
>thinking billionaires secretly running the country is a right-wing conspiracy
don’t tell me that you believe the american populace actually chooses the president

No. 2455368

>>2455360
They literally say they can them and then store them in the basement. So no, they are not storing 50k rotting tomatoes, they are storing cans in a basement like every other restaurant does. This isn't hard anon…

No. 2455369

>>2455358
Why would a tech billionaire be on your side? You are a consumer to exploit and nothing else. Don’t be naive.

No. 2455371

>>2455361
It's crazy how mad people get at the idea that elite pedo rings are real

No. 2455373

>>2455371
Yeah and then the thread immediately got derailed into more libs vs. right-wing and focusing on jars of sauce in a basement.

No. 2455374

>>2455369
Both parties are chock full of billionaires, it's not really a one side issue. Republicans have more high profile billionaires like musk, but democrats have more billionaires in total. Unfortunately rich people can't really be avoided

No. 2455377

>>2455371
aren’t they teaching how pedophilia is a legit sexual orientation and how children can consent to having sex at gender studies in universities too(bait)

No. 2455378

>>2455368
>it really isn't that hard
and yet apparently it is inconceivable to you that they have a separate storage facility off-site.

this isn't even good trolling bc if i were you i would simply switch the goalposts in the form of 'ok maybe they didn't have a basement full of children AT THE PIZZERIA but they totally had a basement full of kids at some other facility probably!' instead of dying on this specific hill. you need lessons, kid.

No. 2455381

>>2455360
Why are you so invested in there not being a basement? Have you been there? Do you know them? How do you KNOW there's not a basement? Or is it because somebody else said there's no basement, and you believed it?

I remember being told that Iraq had WMDs and believing that. The media lies.

No. 2455382

>>2455378
so you’re saying that they had a basement

No. 2455383

>>2455381
Your trolling is hilariously bad.

No. 2455385

Permanent VPN ban for Amerifag thread when

No. 2455388

>>2455385
VPN ban and region ban in this thread but also region ban Americans from the rest of the website.

No. 2455389

>>2454298
Can you explain how it's a /pol/ meme?

No. 2455390

>>2455366
Null, is that you?

No. 2455391

>>2455388
it’s an american website in the first place, oh bitter euro anon

No. 2455392

>>2455389
It's da joo meme image.

No. 2455395

>>2455390
nah, i just paid attention in american politics class

No. 2455396

>>2455391
>anyone i don't like is a yuropoor

No. 2455397

>>2455391
Isn’t cerbmin confirmed a bong though kek

No. 2455399

>>2455397
no wonder the place went to shit then
>>2455396
cucknadian

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I know everybody’s fighting in here about something but is anyone else really happy that Elon has lost almost 200 billion dollars in 2025?

No. 2455402

>>2455377
You should stop believing AI generated pictures you see on Facebook
>>2455397
NTA but we literally don't know anything about cerbmin

No. 2455403

>>2455399
>anyone i don't like is a dogfucker

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>>2455401
Lol if true

No. 2455406

>>2455401
Might be like a drop in the bucket for him but it's indeed very significant and maybe one of the only things to make me smile in the news as of late.

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>>2455402
All site updates are posted in GMT, so there’s that

No. 2455412

>>2455401
It does make me happy but it's not enough. Most of his wealth is from SpaceX

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>>2455401
god bless

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>>2455406
>>2455401
At the very least, I know it hurts his ego since he can't stop being a whiny pissbaby about it behind closed doors. Austistic manbaby melty tears are sublime

No. 2455417

>>2455401
Two more weeks until the empire collapses.

No. 2455420

>>2455383
No, I'm really curious how anon can insist she's right. There's no a lot of evidence either way. The evidence:
-the guy who owns it says there's a basement
-the guy later said there's not a basement, after being accused of committing crimes in it.
-various people have anecdotally claimed there's a basement or not.

My position is "there could be a basement or not, I don't really know, but it seems possible." But anon INSISTS that there is NO basement and that thinking there is one is stupid.
What is this based on? Why is anon right and I am wrong? Doesn't seem like there is much evidence either way.

No. 2455422

>>2455401
I don't really care because I understand how stocks work

No. 2455423

>>2455420
You have to prove it doesn't exist anon. For them it's always guilty until proven innocent, which is why no one can ever meet their impossible standards. You can't prove a negative.
>>2455417
What makes you say that?

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Notice how all these "white dudes for harris" are creepy sex pests.

No. 2455432

>>2455428
Most moids are, some just try to hide it through progressive politics. Democrats are so focused on gaining the “young male vote” that they’ll drop women not knowing it’s detrimental for them. Young men will never vote for them unless the democrats do something smart about the social media/algorithm issue. Democrats need to quit the “getting bitches” sentiment or the college educated women who hold up their party will be voting for Jill Stein. However, Republican males love child marriage so I wouldn’t consider this a party issue.

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>>2455392
Oh goddamn it, I didn't even see it. I thought it was a blob for the #aesthetic. Finally able to see it when I squinted my eyes and held my phone far away.
Thanks, anon.

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>>2455432
>Republican males love child marriage
Yeah and democrats love hormone blockers to children.

No. 2455444

>>2455441
Okay? Both are bad? What’s your point?

No. 2455447

>>2455441
Damn you sure took that personally, I wonder why.(scrotefoiling)

No. 2455449

This thread really is scrote bait. Mods can you please just lock it forever and not let us have one anymore?

No. 2455452

>>2452317
>>2455441
Democrats don't love hormone blockers. Trannies love hormone blockers. The democratic party is bigger than trannies, but your news outlet wants to convince you that half of this country is trooning out. It's only like one percent.

No. 2455453

>>2455444
I agree then.
>>2455447
Yes, because I live in blue state.

No. 2455455

>>2455449
But I like the amerifags thread, it should just get a permanent vpn ban

No. 2455460

>>2455455
Yeah I still enjoy this thread sometimes so I don’t want it nuked. The VPN ban is coming soon nonnas, be patient.

No. 2455461

>>2455447
I think there’s a moid who’s been baiting or trying to infight. There was someone who was in the tradthot thread that was saying how being anti feminist was based and that all women were a slave to their desires, and he ban evaded multiple times. He tried doing many different paths/reasonings for his posts, but the fact that he insists on defending his special party even if both are criticized is proof itself.(scrotefoiling)

No. 2455463

>>2455461
>I think there’s a moid who’s been baiting or trying to infight
Yeah there's one that camps out here all the fucking time it's really annoying. I remember seeing that in the tradthot thread though. You can tell it's a moid when it starts saying shit like "oh well pedophiles on THAT side are bad but not pedos on my I mean THIS side!!" It seems to fundamentally misunderstand that women don't like any pedos on any side.

No. 2455464

>>2455452
The democrats all support this bullshit and despite them being 1% of the population they sure as hell get special privileges from their unnecessary hormones being paid to their unnecessary surgeries and to laws being changed.

No. 2455467

>>2455432
>college educated
>voting for Jill Stein
Quite the oxymoron you've got there.

No. 2455468

>>2455464
>The democrat
Not every single individual, the party

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To foreign brides - your American husband will not stand by you.

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>>2455464
Like you don’t even see racial minorities or women having these privileges kek, but since it benefits white middle class to upper class males (most of the TIMs) they obviously get coddled.

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>>2455469
I didn’t know whether to post here or Passport Bros thread, but these threads are more active.

https://people.com/ice-detains-trump-supporters-wife-after-honeymoon-11701075

No. 2455474

>>2455471
I don't really care if TiMs are allowed to mutilate themselves. It is not my problem if they want rot pockets and never-ending infections. Many pro-troon movements are also pro-woman. If abortion protection means rot pocket galore, so be it. I will never have sex with a man and that is not going to change regardless of legislature, I'm sure many would agree.

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>>2455472
Confiscating the ring for “fear of being stolen” and it’s now too much to leave America even though she jumped through hurdles to be with him. It apparently wasn’t too much for the 12-year old to have a stranger living in his home.

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>>2455464
Trannies aren't an aberration, they are the logical endpoint of leftist ideas.
Leftists say women can do anything as well as men can. So there's no difference between men and women. So why can't men be women? There is no reason why not, according to leftists.
Trannies aren't a accident. Trannies are leftist doctrine incarnate.

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>>2455474
They spend their time promoting trans rights and hardly doing shit for women. Women are dying in certain parts because they can’t access abortions and no one is doing shit, NO ONE.!

No. 2455482

>>2455481
They want you to die

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>>2455481
If you can’t define what a woman is , what class needs certain rights and protections then you’ve failed as a pro-woman movement, I’m sorry. And I’m saying this despite having voted Harris.

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>>2455474
>are allowed to mutilate themselves
They should pay for it though.

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>>2455302
where can i read or watch about this?

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>>2455480
Gender ideology is actually both leftist and right winged though, right wingers are the same ones who parrot the same social hierarchy for both sexes that makes both men and women want to troon out. You see a lot of gay men and lesbians transitioning with fundamental religious beliefs or them admitting they’re more accepted by their peers when they look “heterosexual”. While leftists are terrible for defending it and for perpetuating the same ideology, right wingers perpetuate it as well, though it’s the hierarchy for what defines “women” and “men” socially (heterosexual, tradwife, etc). The reality is that both are to blame for, and while the right parrots how much they hate transgenders, they don’t actually want to dismantle the root cause that causes a lot of them to troon out, despite saying how they would want them to accept themselves, they want them to just fit their rigid ideology instead.

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>>2455492
This isn’t to say in any means am I defending transsexuals, but there is a lot of nuance here when it comes to homosexuals and young women trooning out. A lot of young women troon out because they do want to escape the treatment of being a woman, and I guarantee you that it’s not helping when they are constantly met with the dichotomy of what a “woman” should be. Right now, you go women are dealing the most with sexual harassment, bullying, femicides, etc. They are at the highest with eating disorders and other mental illnesses that’s obviously reactionary to how they are being treated, ogled at, etc.

No. 2455499

>>2455485
i mean the alternative is voting for the party that outright campaigned for taking away reproductive freedoms, those guys are not our friends either.

from what I can tell Dems are fully aware of the difference between troons and women but their making their platform about 'uwu all-inclusive ~kindness~' means they will literally pretend to be retarded rather than rile up the percentage of their base that is libfem handmaidens. but i have talked to so many 'liberals' who will privately agree with me about gendercritical shit but won't take their pronouns out of their bio because of image concerns.

No. 2455500

>>2455338
why would they put this on a public storefront? also it was only first names iirc. the only part thats concerning is the password, but it wasnt for an account or to verify payment?

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>>2455460
Has it been decided?

No. 2455506

>>2455338
>like, the wayfair child trafficking shit never even got settled, the company just ignored potential customers noticing how some pillows would cost over $100,000 and have these unique missing children’s names and when you tried to buy them, you had to give them a special password for the money to go through. and then people just stopped talking about it
This conspiracy fits too neatly to be legit. They would not be that careless and open expecting that no one would put the pieces together because why would they want to advertise to any Tom, Dick, and Harry who could blow their cover and turn traitor one day?

No. 2455512

>>2455503
Yes, this thread will have a VPN ban regardless of the run off poll results because it’s on /ot/. Whether or not the ban is to be implemented on other boards has yet to be decided.

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>>2455506
>>2455338
>versus choosing to believe a Qanon conspiracy
Disregarded. It's like everyone just gets their info from washed up sensationalist youtubers and tiktokers these days.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-no-evidence-linking-wayfair-to-human-trafficking-operation-idUSKCN24E2KY/

No. 2455561

>>2455492
>right wingers are the same ones who parrot the same social hierarchy for both sexes that makes both men and women want to troon out
This is largely just biological reality that can't be escaped from. It would be nice if we lived in a world where everyone was equal and there are no sex differences but it's just not reality. Acknowledging this isn't a bad thing.

No. 2455572

>>2455555
Yes anon I'm sure Reuters thoroughly investigated. You do know most of the time the "debunking" is just them asking someone if they did it or not. Obviously global pedophile ringleaders aren't just going to be like "you got me! I did it! I got away with it for so long, but I absolutely can't lie to journalists asking a question! I turn myself in!"
Or like how do you think it works? Kek

No. 2455580

>>2455561
While it is biological reality, what I’m speaking of is “gendered brains” like women being less intelligent and more emotional (which isn’t true, I’m using an example that is parroted by what I’m criticizing). It is idealistic to want both sexes to be treated equally instead the basis of their sex, but that’s exactly why I pointed out that both extremists on the same side is what causes people to troon out. They troon out because they genuinely believe they fit the subjective ideal of what the opposite sex, which is perpetuated by both parties. I say this as someone who was right winged and someone who detransitioned. Both sides are guilty of it, and it doesn’t help when we are being obtuse about the dichotomy for women from both sides.

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>>2455572
Exactly. This other anon is probably a bot or shill, they always pop up and get overly invested when these topics are brought up

No. 2455589

>>2455580
Stereotyping men and women has existed in all societies for all time, but trannies are mostly a modern phenomenon.

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>>2455588
That's really interesting. I wonder why someone would have a bot that gets mad at people discussing elite pedophile rings if those rings are fake.

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>>2455594
Do you guys not know there's an actual thread for your retardation and you don't have to shit up this one
>>>/ot/2416922

No. 2455601

>>2455589
Not quite. A lot of cultures had “third sexes” or other terms for effeminate/underaged boys that you see a lot of trannies use to defend themselves with. Even then, when Freud and other psychoanalysts came up with terms like “gender envy”, it was an analysis how a lot of women envied the placement of men in society. A lot of this can be boiled down to again, what I was saying, that a lot of women were seen as abnormal for wanted to be treated equally. I don’t know why you’re bringing up trannies being a modern problem, because what I’m talking about specifically is gender ideology, the ideology that is perpetuated by both parties and causes young kids/adults to troon out when they feel like they do not conform to the same standard. Instead of perpetuating the same stereotype and blaming one party, which I will reiterate, it does nothing but create short solutions. You don’t fix anorexia with liposuction, because it’s a mental problem mostly created by society with their self esteem. Both sides are not helping young adults when they pretend to ignore and give into defeatism and excuse their own by perpetuating the same stereotype. I don’t believe in both parties as they are equal when it comes to being detrimental to women, they both dehumanize in some kind of form if they don’t meet their standard.

No. 2455610

How America has effectively cut foreign aid with all countries except for Israel and the chokehold they have over our politics, how every awful political movement or the majority of them were propagated by Jews here (ie: neoconservatism) has made me a genuine anti semite. I’m so glad anti semitism is becoming more common on gen z
>i-inb4 durr /pol/ durr nazi
Im a leftist. An actual leftist, not “YASS QWEEN MASS IMMIGRATION AND PRIDE DLAGS FOR ALL” type leftist.(racesperging)

No. 2455620

>>2455572
Evidence and logical explanations were thoroughly provided, which is a lot more than some "TRUST ME GUYS!! It really happened!!" schizotuber can say. Where is your source that gives any validity to your claims?
>>2455588
Yes, bots or shills are people who try to poke holes in fallacious conspiracy theories, sure. You just don't want to be proven wrong because it's fun for you to believe in such an elaborate but clumsily orchestrated operation.
>>2455588
Yes, bots are the ones providing articles to back up or disprove claims, not the people in here parroting disjointed Qanon talking points and getting their panties in a bunch when others don't blindly believe them. No one said pedo rings aren't real, but the circumstances surrounding a few of them are pretty clearly fictional.
>>2455343
Exactly kek

No. 2455656

>>2455620
yes it feels bot-like because the articles you link don’t actually disprove anything, focus on one particular part of a conspiracy to dismiss the whole thing or just lie, like the basement not existing when the owner themselves talk about a basement in the building kek

No. 2455681

>>2455656
The article disproves several claims. I can provide others as well. Can you tell me what exactly backs up your belief in this conspiracy theory? It's a bit ironic, because it seems that you're the one cherry picking to say "but but but!! this one thing might possibly be true, so it all is!". You want to believe it, but it is not logically or factually sound. I'm not basement nona, btw.

No. 2455689

do you think Trump/Vance will try to abolish alimony? If they were to do that, what would happen to previous alimony and child support agreements? Kind of worried about a friend who is battling a psychopath in Texas.

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No. 2455762

>>2455601
>when Freud and other psychoanalysts came up with terms like “gender envy”,
Freud never used the term gender envy nor did he come up with it. Other psychoanalysts didn't either. If you're gonna sperg about this ITT at least do research.

No. 2455823

>>2455620
>Replying to the same post twice in the same post

No. 2455993

>>2455762
Apologies, I meant penis envy instead of gender envy as I was walking while typing this. Are you saying Freud never said penis envy?

No. 2456006

>>2455993
>Are you saying Freud never said penis envy?
No, retard. You made a mistake and said that Freud said something that he didn't say. I corrected your mistake. Penis envy has no relation to gender envy. If you think it does, then you have seriously misunderstood the fundamentals of psychoanalytic thought. Go read a book sometime.

No. 2456069

>>2456006
> In Freud’s theory, any stage of development could lead to mental illness in adulthood. If there were no disruptions at this stage, he thought girls would eventually learn to accept their lack of a penis and embrace their assigned gender role.

However, he also believed that penis envy persists throughout life and plays a role in mental health issues. For instance, Freud thought that females tend to experience more jealousy than males and that this is a displacement of their penis envy.

You don’t think this could be something that could be seen as wanting to have the same placement as men in society? I didn’t say women wanted to be men, so I’m not sure what you’re confusing, I’m saying they were deemed as mentally ill and seen as abnormal for not conforming to that. I said “gender ideology is always existed, before the idea of transgenderism. Are you retarded?

No. 2456079

>>2456069
Continuing off of this, I don’t know what is so confusing about what I’m saying. I’m not supporting Freud and saying “women want to troon out because they want to be men”, I literally said they want to transition due to how they’re treated and think it’s a scapegoat. I used penis envy as an example of women being seen as abnormal or mentally ill for being “different” or not fitting the same rigid gender role that is perpetuated by both sides.(learn2delete and repost)

No. 2456167

>>2455474
>Many pro-troon movements are also pro-woman.
So true, i can't wait until trannies get their rights to intrude in womens bathrooms all while nothing gets done for the actual women in need because you fell for their bullshit

No. 2456170

>>2456167
Samefagging to say you all need to understand none of them are on our side, democrat or republican they put men first always. Seeing people unironically defend a side with all their will in this thread is making me recoil of cringe.

No. 2456184

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>fuck
>marry
>kill

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>>2456184
Marry Vance bc I could probably dominate that closeted fag and run the country through his caged dick
Fuck the dweeb on the right that looks like Stephen colbert’s brother
Kill the geriatric old man in the middle

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>texas banning anime
>texas banning scrote lolishit
Nature is healing. Now make it a wide country ban please

No. 2456234

>>2455823
You're right, my bad, the second to last was supposed to be a reply to >>2455594

Anyway(learn2integrate)

No. 2456242

>>2456184
kill
kill
kill

No. 2456304

That Rick Scott tweet with the giant flag of Israel on the wall.(this is an imageboard)

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>>2456232
Yeah I'm really into texas rn

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>>2456517
I can't think of any scenario where I would feel cool and based posting an exploited child actress in a scrote groomer film. No wonder people think this thread is full of trannies

No. 2456523

>>2456521
…because it's the only scene I could think of where the shooter is shooting at multiple targets across the screen like that, it was a joke

No. 2456524

>>2456521
Couldn't it also be that she looked up 'shooting gif' on google and went with the first one?

No. 2456525

>>2456524
I haven't even seen the film, I just used to see this gif all over Tumblr and thought it fit the post because of the directions she's shooting in

No. 2456797

>>2456521
>Everyone I don't like is a tranny
Strikes again

No. 2456932

i have always hated CA because i've seen too many leftist idiot people move there and come back ranting about how it's utopia but ngl i moved here a couple months ago and i kinda get the appeal now. the weather really is as nice as they say and i like not having to buy my weed through sketchy-ass moids now and the crime rate in the 'burbs is way lower here than my previous two cities.

black squirrels keep eating my damn flowers though which is a problem i have never encountered before in my life and have no idea how to handle. i resorted to buying a big pet enclosure cage for the backyard garden so i can attempt to protect some strawberries this summer. fuck those fucking squirrels i can't believe i thought they were cute at first

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>>2456232
Isn't abortion still banned tho? lol

No. 2457110

>>2457106
But anon…what about the rare but still existing cases of rape resulting in unwanted pregnancy?

No. 2457114

>(/pol/shit op)
>tagged days after thread is made
Is the mod having a schizophrenic break down?
Anyways, >>2456932
You know what my main problem with multiple languages in one nation is? How, while you're forced to endure the one hour phone tree in order to be allowed to talk to talk to someone you can't understand in order to cancel anything, that the phone makes you sit through "press one for English," "press eight for Spanish," "press three for American sign language". Please, streamline this process. God I hate phone trees.

No. 2457120

>>2457114
Look at the image very carefully. Focus on the silhouette. It's okay if you don't know what it is, but it's there and the farmhand was correct to ban it. I'm not sure why the thread pic hasn't been changed yet.

No. 2457128

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>>2457097
>>2457109
The spanish speakers taking over is going to reach a breaking point at some point. Especially when its a really ugly pitull faced bitch saying rude stuff in your face. They have an entire continent to speak spanish/portuguese in but insist on making us accommodate them. Most jobs in my area are starting to have bilingual as a requirement and it's a pain the ass. We have a pretty large German immigrant population but they never made getting a job harder for americans, they simply learned english and kept it pushing. Why are hispanics not held to this standard? It's retarded.
t.former cashier in an area with a growing hispanic population

>>2457114
we should've just kept the threadpics as alfred

No. 2457148

>>2457116
You're trying to make being considerate for the wants and needs of women who are pregnant against their will as something "selfish and immature", but I'm just not falling for it.(do not respond to bait)

No. 2457157

>>2457116
>>2457106
Do you not think it's better that those pregnancies are terminated instead of raised by impulsive, low IQ parents as you put it? Those idiots will bone either way so is it not better to give them an option to not procreate and spread their retard genes?(responding to bait)

No. 2457159

>>2457128
I'm Latina, born right in South America and without close American relatives, and I speak and write fluent English. The Latinos at your country got 0 excuses to force you all to speak Spanish, they could learn the language but simply don't give much of a shit

No. 2457161

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>>2457154
Oh you're one of those types.(responding to bait)

No. 2457167

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>>2457154
I'm not having one night stands. I haven't had sex in years. I just believe abortion should stay legal for the health necessity and convenience for women who feel trapped in their pregnancies. Especially for women who are pregnant from rape. Considering what THEY need isn't hiding behind them. I think it's strange that you think being considerate for women who want out if pregnancy is "hiding behind them".(responding to bait)

No. 2457173

>>2457169
Are you seriously asking why women who aren’t being actively abused have compassion for women who are…?(responding to bait)

No. 2457174

>>2457169
I get to have an opinion on abortion and women's reproductive rights because I am a woman. Your mental capacity to understand how arguments work is concerning.(responding to bait)

No. 2457176

>>2457109
>reee the commercials should be in english!!
so you want to be advertised to? pathetic. you should be greatful you can more easily tune out ads in a language you dont understand(responding to bait)

No. 2457180

>>2457169
if you're never gonna need an abortion then why the fuck are you always involved in these pro-choice arguments?(responding to bait)

No. 2457181

Kek they deleted all their shit

No. 2457183

>>2457167
based nonna

>>2457169

You sound like you hate abortion only so that women suffer instead of the whole "abortion is murder stuff." Try having empathy for the half of the population you're apart of instead of the one that wants you either dead by 30 or constantly pushing babies out until you die.

>>2457176
>reee the commercials should be in english!!
yes. Not sure how you can disagree with that

No. 2457185

>>2457183
i dont watch commercials so idc if they are in English or not. i guess if you love ads you might be offended when you cant understand one

No. 2457192

>>2457186
>you don't understand if the TIDE POD commercial is not in my native language im gonna RAGE. i NEED to be advertised to! me! directly!

No. 2457194

>>2457176
As a fellow ESL, literally stfu, it's their country, not ours

No. 2457195

>>2457181
Do you think they know farmhands can see post history regardless if they delete their tardouts.

>>2457185
Unless you live the boonies with no tv or radio(which I doubt since you're on lc) you constantly consume commercials subconsciously everywhere you go. So it does kind of matter culturally what language the commercials are in. Just speak english of gtfo, it's not that hard.

No. 2457196

>>2457194
i am a white american why dont you mind your business

No. 2457197

>>2457195
how are you gonna subconsciously consume something in a language you dont speak. you would need to be actively paying attention to it

No. 2457202

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>>2457186
>cobwebbed pussy
I take a shower at least once a day and always after work. Also, I still believe in abortion being open for all women who need or want one. I am the avatar.

No. 2457203

>>2457196
Then you're even more retarded. There are tons of Chinese people in my country yet not a single ad it's in Chinese, much less any services, nobody is told to learn Chinese. Can't you see how abnormal this situation in your country is?

No. 2457228

>>2457204
A child is not a consequence to a man. It's a punishment for the woman and it's retarded to pretend otherwise as some kind of laughable 4D feminist chess move.

No. 2457231

>>2457197
Do you seriously not know that advertisements are basically embedded into how everything looks in public spaces. If you are white american how are you so culturally suicidal

>>2457228
delete this, farmhands are letting the baiter make as many posts as she wants while banning anyone who responds to her.

No. 2457232

Any Florida nonnies been seeing more gators lately? Huge ones have been coming to my house and eyeing my dogs through the fence and I’m seeing babies around my beach town in communities. It isn’t even mating season

No. 2457251

Is Philadelphia a good city to visit? What's a nice area to stay in if so? Or places to avoid? (I'm from EU and travelling to the East Coast soon)

No. 2457270

>>2457251
I have relatives in Philly and I really wouldn't recommend visiting nowadays unless you're very well off and can afford to stay within the wealthy side.Theres a lot of crime and drug use in the city.

No. 2457310

>>2457203
Average consequence of globalism

No. 2457352

>>2457251
I enjoyed my trips to Philly. But I also live in the DMV where it's pretty easy to get to Philly. If you don't get to travel too often to the US and have only a limited amount of time to stay, I'd say DC is a much better tourist stop along the east coast than Philly. Especially right now. DC is so beautiful in spring. Avoid Baltimore though. It's extremely easy to accidentally walk into a dangerous area in Baltimore.
You should be ok if you stay in the downtown center city area along the general touristy spots. Go to Angelo's Pizzeria for delicious cheesesteaks.

No. 2457365

>>2457232
I think the weather getting fucked is affecting animals breeding out of season. Hope your dogs stay safe, anon.

No. 2457388

>>2457352
Philly will probably be fine, but it's a boring, yet probably cheaper one off the list. DC, Baltimore, Philly, New York, and Boston are all connected by train.

No. 2457536

>>2457120
I never go to that horrible site but I'm really curious now. What is it? I'm getting the same feeling as when your friend says she needs to tell you something, but she can only tell you later and then you're unable to sleep all night wondering what the fuck it is kek

No. 2457544

>>2457114
>>2457536
See >>2455392 for explanation and >>2455433 for how to seee it better.

No. 2457546

>>2457128
Mmmn, I don’t have any problem with it. America’s a place of immigration and change. I’m not speaking Shoshone so I can’t be too mad if the people living here in the future will all be speaking Spanish or something else.

No. 2457584

Took me way too long to get the op image. Not the first time /pol/ images get on here kek

No. 2458292

>DEI bad!
>except for the Jews! anti semitism is a big threat to the us guys
Why are trump and other republican cuckolds like this?

No. 2458299

>>2458292
Don't forget about their Indian tech import slave workers too.

No. 2458902

>>2458292
I'll never stop saying it: Men are the OG DEIs

No. 2458907

>>2456184
Kill all three and replace them with Rowling, Manifesto chan, and RFH. In that order

No. 2459102

>>2458907
Based except RFH is literally retarded

No. 2459210

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Doordash has partnered up with klarna, allowing people to loan money for delivered food. I know this isn't unlike paying with credit cards, but it just feels wrong. What a world we live in.

No. 2459245

>>2459210
The worst part is so many retards are actually going to use this for 50 dollar chipotle orders.

No. 2459503

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>>2459210
Seems like a way to claw more profits in the face of more people consuming less because of an uncertain economy. Tiresome, hope it blows up in their faces

No. 2459665

>>2459210
Why do places always have stupid fucking "payment plans" before lowering prices? Its one thing if it's a big, once in a lifetime purchase like an appliance, then it went onto luxuries like vacations, and now we moved onto food delivery? Like did they ever think lowering prices could possibly be more profitable than the millionth payment plan?

No. 2459811

>>2459210
This is going to trap so many people. They're going to take out a food loan (because my baby deserves to have the best for her first birthday party!), they'll set the payments to come out of their credit card, and then they'll only make the minimum payments on their credit card.
This should not have been allowed to happen.

No. 2459905

>>2459811
Most BNPL apps don't allow credit card usage because of people "gaming" the system, I get the feeling Klarna will follow suit eventually.

No. 2460116

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So, apparently the National Security Adviser Michael Waltz, accidentally invited journalist Jeffrey Goldberg to a Signal group chat where top officials such as JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Pete Hegseth among others were discussing war plans. He goes into detail about just how illegal this was from top to bottom in the article, it's a gift article too so you can read it for free. I couldn't do it justice with a summary so I'll attach some screenshots and a paragraph.
>The world found out shortly before 2 p.m. eastern time on March 15 that the United States was bombing Houthi targets across Yemen.
>I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming. The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegseth, the secretary of defense, had texted me the war plan at 11:44 a.m. The plan included precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing.
Article link: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/?gift=Cgqh0-mGExsQQ_xEA88IsFBTXcgGKcOJRI1x7WcTigU&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

No. 2460122

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>>2460116
>Flood detected, post discarded

No. 2460124

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>>2460122
They reacted to the strikes in Yemen with emojis kek

No. 2460147

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>>2459665
Did any of you remember doing math problems like picrel, where revenue or profit tends to go up with the price of a good up until a certain point, then the profit goes down as price increases?

No. 2460620

>>2460124
Our government is so unserious why are they celebrating the successful bombing of Yemen like they're in a WhatsApp group chat?

No. 2460630

>>2460620
Imagine how alpha gen will react when they are old enough to carpet bomb a country.

No. 2460664

>>2460124
This is so goddamn disgusting and retarded. Clown country. Clown world.

No. 2460714

>>2460116
They mention Pete Hesgeth, Micheal Waltz, JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, John Ratcliffe, it's filled with cabinet members. What kind of fuck up do you do to have that happen? No one got a message that there's a new guy in the groupchat?

No. 2461006

>>2460124
signal could do the funniest thing right now

No. 2461310

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>>2460714
That Atlantic writer is known for publishing false info, most notably for claiming connections between al queda & saddam hussein that weren't real

No. 2461555

>>2461310
kek you need to get a fucking grip, the White House literally confirmed that the texts from the Signal groupchat are real

No. 2461604

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>>2460714
So what's gonna happen with these people? Are they just gonna be unaffected by this?

No. 2461617

>>2461604
You know they are.

No. 2461785

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How can people still be in denial about what's happening…

No. 2461791

I fucking hate Israel and I wish we'd stop allying with them when they've done nothing but be terrible to us. Why are we bombing Yemen again? For their interests. How the fuck do US politicans even allow themselves to be played like this?

No. 2461813

>>2461791
Because of lobbying. US politicians are disgusting whores who can be easily bought out.

No. 2461817

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>>2461785
They’re trying to put crazy headlines in the news to deter attention about the signal text leaks. That or they’re using the signal leaks to push more of their coup. Either way, we’re on a sinking ship and I still have to drive to work tomorrow kek

No. 2461819

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>>2461813
>>2461791
This is a weird way of saying that Israel is capable of creating and maintaining a real economy and free society while Yemen isn't
>Corruption in Yemen is such that it ranked 176 out of 180 countries in the >2022 Corruption Perceptions Index
>It is the most corrupt country in the Arabian Peninsula. It is also the poorest country in the Middle East, "with an exceptionally high birth rate, acute rates of child malnutrition and rapidly dwindling reserves of oil and water."
>In Yemen, according to Chatham House, "corruption, poverty and inequality are systemic"; in the words of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, corrupt activity is "so entrenched and pervasive" that many citizens feel powerless.
>The government and its security forces have been responsible for torture, inhumane treatment, and extrajudicial executions. There are arbitrary arrests of citizens, especially in the south, as well as arbitrary searches of homes. Prolonged pretrial detention is a serious problem, and judicial corruption, inefficiency, and executive interference undermine due process. Freedom of speech, the press, and religion are all restricted.[268] ?>Journalists critical of the government are often harassed and threatened by the police.[173]
>Homosexuality is illegal, punishable by death.[269]
(wiki)
>Yemen: One of the Worst Places in the World to be a Woman
>“By God, I am broken from the inside. It’s not normal, I don’t feel like a human being. I can’t breathe properly like other human beings. We suffer from the forced niqab, child marriage, divorce shame, domestic violence and honor killings. I don’t know… as if we are aliens. They [male family members] have to oppress us and we have to stay oppressed – like a puppet controlled by strings.”
>In Yemen, a country ranked last in the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap index for 13 consecutive years
more here: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2019/12/yemen-one-of-the-worst-places-in-the-world-to-be-a-woman/

No. 2461836

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>>2461819
samefag first picrel includes USA for this reason:
>The war-ravaged countries of Afghanistan and Syria came second and third in the study while number 10 is certainly a surprising addition. According to experts, the United States makes the top-10 list of the most dangerous countries for women due to the #MeToo and Time's Up campaigns dominating newspaper headlines and media coverage for months.
Here is another picrel from "The Women, Peace & Security Index"
https://giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/

No. 2461853

>>2461819
>>2461836
Shut the fuck up, ziocuck. I don't care if fags are stoned to death, that doesn't mean we should be sending billions in US aid to Israel every damn year. We are bombing Yemen out of ISRAELI INTEREST. It's corrupt precisely because your precious ethnostate uses the US as a puppet to do its dirty work for them because Israel has been destabilizing the middle east since its inception. Either way, why should our tax dollars be used for this shit when our own citizens are suffering?
Also most Israeli moids believe forced sex with an acquaintance isn't rape and have sterilized Ethiopian women who live there without their knowledge. Your "feminism" is a farce and precisely why Jewish women can never truly be feminist; they will defend their misogynistic kike scrotes before they ever will their fellow women. But keep up with your ziocuck propaganda when we all know Israel would be nothing if you guys weren't manipulating shit behind the scenes and lobbying the fuck out of politicians.

No. 2461858

>>2461819
Ok so.. in what way does bombing Yemen help Yemeni women more than doing literally nothing would?

No. 2461863

>>2461858
It's hasbara. Just ignore it. There are quite a few Zio pickme women on here who come to defend shitrael whenever it's mentioned in a negative light.

No. 2461864

>>2461858
Based if they were bio bombs that deleted anything with a y chromosome but unlikely

No. 2461865

>>2461819
I'm sure i know less than the Thomson Retueters Foundation but I'm also sure it's worse to be a woman in Sudan than US.

No. 2461869

>>2461853
Do you not understand the concept of an "ally" anon? Like what does that mean to you?
>Background
>Further information: Red Sea crisis and Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip
>The Houthis have long called for the destruction of Israel but did not take direct action against it until Hamas's October 7 attacks which initiated the Israel–Hamas war.[10]
>**Since the war began, the Iran-backed Houthi forces have launched drone and missile attacks toward Israel, though most were intercepted, causing minimal damage. The Houthis stated these attacks are in retaliation for Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip and vowed to continue until the "Israeli aggression stops."[10] More than 30,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israel's invasion of Gaza, including thousands of women and children.
>War in Yemen
>Main article: Yemeni civil war (2014–present)
>The Houthi movement, officially "Ansar Allah", is Islamist group in Yemen that follows the Shiite Zaydi faith.[10] The movement has been fueled by decades of discrimination against the Shi'ites in Yemen and took power in 2014.[10]
>In response, it was attacked by Saudi Arabia and its allies, in a war that killed 150,000 people.[10] They were designated a terrorist organization by the United States,[16][17] Saudi Arabia,[18] United Arab Emirates,[19] Malaysia,[20] and Australia.[21][22]
>The group has called for the destruction of Israel.[10]
>The movement, whose militants oppose Yemen's internationally recognized government, has controlled a considerable swath of the country's territory along the Red Sea since 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_July_2024_Israeli_attack_on_Yemen
Why are you all so low info, it's really weird

No. 2461871

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>>2461866
>>2461869
>[10]
>source
>AP news
>[11]
>state.gov, Bloomberg
nice sources ziocuck

No. 2461873

>>2461866
If you stopped your Mossad cocksucking for one second you'd realize that Israel practically blackmailed the US into "allying" with them. They have never once helped the US in anyway when we've done nothing but support them, only to get nothing in return. Shut the fuck up and stop defending your fellow kikemoids. I hope Israel gets destroyed because it has no right to exist in the first place, the fucking founder of Zionism said it was a colonialist movement for fucks sake. Why do you ignore how blatantly evil kikescrotes are, you fake feminist?(back to /pol/)

No. 2461877

>>2461873
Israel specializes in soft power and intelligence operations, like Canada anon. USA is the might/military. It's how they work together and mutually benefit. I'm sure getting angry and jewsperging without evidence will convince me I'm wrong though, keep that up

No. 2461880

>>2461877
intelligence operations that each just ensure the jewnited states continue to be their goy golem for their protection and to execute their will kek

No. 2461881

>>2461877
How does the US benefit from Israel? They have meddled in the JFK assassination, there's evidence pointing to them being involved in 9/11, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars which costed us billions, USS Liberty, and so forth. You can't even criticize them anymore publicly without the fear of your livelihood being put in danger. Your evidence consists of propaganda articles, you can look all of this up if you don't believe me. Are you Jewish yourself? Why are you so insistent on defending this disgusting ethnostate? The Bibas family is dead btw, they won't come back and finger you KEKKK
>>2461880
Based. Israel would crumble if America stopped supporting them.

No. 2461885

>>2461881
I'm a woman so I think it's important to defend countries that aren't shitholes where anything born female is trapped inside their body until the sweet release of death. That's why most people avoid debating this topic and just assume the person behind the kb is a troon

No. 2461893

>>2461885
Jewish moids popularized pornography in America. Jewish American sex offenders escape to Israel to avoid prosecution. Stop distorting the goalpost

No. 2461896

>>2461893
If we're going by with that logic, then they helped weed out the degenerates from the next generation. Would you rather wait til you have kids with a moid to find out he's a diddler? I'd rather live in a country where women have freedom and moids have the right to self-extinct than an islamic state where women smother their female infants, so they won't live the same miserable lives as they have (or bc they will have to pay a dowry). But sure, let's have sharia law bc idiot males can't stop watching "homeless teen gets gangraped" porn

No. 2461899

>>2461896
t.jew(infight bait)

No. 2461906

>>2461896
nayrt, but gen-z boys are raping little girls in classrooms due to their porn exposure we should be thankful because you "weeded out" degenerates? Right. Can't wait for the next mass exodus.

No. 2461907

>>2461901
yet you didn't deny it either.

No. 2461908

>>2461896
More whataboutism because despite larping as a feminist you’re a porn defending pickme because your precious Jewish scrotes can never ever do anything wrong and it’s always the evil arabs
FYI, I resent Islam as I do all abrahamic religions, no scrotes misogyny is better than the other

No. 2461910

>>2461896
kek using misogyny to defeat misogyny is a super duper valid tactic. All hail Israel, common nonnas let's bow to Israel and their ugly wig wearing handmaidens.

No. 2461912

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>>2461906
They were already complaining about companies women over them and now it's starting to come true, as they become financial liabilities/lawsuits waiting to happen. Porn will be banned for minors soon but there will be "a lost generation", just like a war. Israel is pro-woman, always will be. This anon will always keep warm under the dragon's wing, as long as women come first

No. 2461916

>>2461912
not one piece of that rambling made sense at all

No. 2461917

>>2461914
If you're reading it as an independent post like a retard who camps in this thread and doesn't have an actual rebuttal, that could be true. As a reply to what anon said, it does

No. 2461918

>>2461912
You are a pickme who is fine with misogyny as long as it’s coming from Jewish moids, if Israel is so pro woman how come IDF soldiers inspect Arabic girls genitals at military checkpoints? You’re fucking sick. Your feminist shit is a giant grift because you want an excuse to shit on Arabs while avoiding accountability, that’s why you didn’t admit you were Jewish to me earlier. Go suck on the dicks of the kikes producing porn that you simp for so much, im sure they’d love you(infighting)

No. 2461919

>>2461918
>you are a pick-me
I am the opposite of that, you are illiterate which makes sense bc you support islamic states. I am picking Israel to defend bc they are pro-woman and not a scrotefilled hellhole

No. 2461921

>>2461919
How are yemeni women being supported by the bombs. Please answer.

No. 2461927

>>2461921
>supporting the existence of every single woman in the world
No
>supporting pro-woman countries defending themselves from islamic terrorists and allying with other pro-woman countries so the disease of islam doesn't spread more than it already has (which it will, as per it's objective)
Yes

No. 2461928

>>2461919
They are not pro woman and they are as misogynistic as any other scrote infested shithole you retarded pickme whore. I never once defended Islam or religious states as a whole, I just acknowledge that they are that way because of us bringing “freedom and democracy” and subsequently fucking over that country. You’d support sharia law if it was Jews that practiced it. You are an imperialist scumbag, get the fuck out of the American general if you wanna suck Israeli dick so bad.(infighting)

No. 2461931

>>2461928
You just sound extremely immature and unrealistic when it comes to war and how that works. It seems like you're angry that civilians are dying in a war but only when it's the side defending themselves

No. 2461934

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>>2461927
Israel is so pro women guiz! I fucking hate libfems, next you’re gonna tell me porn is empowering and that BDSM is feminist. You defend Jewish scrotes over other women because you’re that much of a pickme
>>2461931
Yes we know you think terrorism is good if you’re the ones doing it, move along

No. 2461937

Imagine being in the anti-muslim thread, reading the other nonnas cry about how they wish they could leave their abusive religion and be free'd from wearing the hijab, just to conclude that the only way to liberate them is to kill them all. Slaughter every single nonna for the unfortunate lottery of being born in the middle east. To free them you must slaughter them, and their families. Their mothers too, kill their sisters, make sure they're all suffering. But hey at least they're saved! No woman will be forced to wear the hijab anymore because no woman will be alive. That's unironically how the average Israeli thinks.

No. 2461939

>>2461937
If she’s actually Israeli she needs to get the fuck out of our thread, assuming it isn’t that one Zionist tranny shitting up /ot/

No. 2461944

>>2461934
>2011
You really had to dig back for this misinfo from a publication israelis consider worse than the daily mail. Luckily a helpful redditor is on the case:
>Quick read through:
>- The sample is entirely students and fairly small. Don't see any information on ethnicity, socio-economic status or other demographic info, so the claim this is a "representative sample" isn't really supported. Self-selection bias.
>- Questionnaire follows a standard, so probably nothing too weird happening there.
>- No multivariate analysis.
>- No accounting for confounding variables.
>- Uses RMA scale (a standard) to examine beliefs, but shortened from 45 to 7 items. Any nuance is lost and results may be skewed.
>All in all, the study is weak. 63 male students from one college does not form a statistically significant representation for the male population of Israel, and the methodology is not robust.
>Edit: I'm sloppy. This is probably not the cited study, but a different one from the same person. It's entirely possible the cited study is more robust, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
So we don't know anything about the study since it is behind a paywall and no one has been able to access it for 14 years
https://www.reddit.com/r/telaviv/comments/1i2dy9r/i_read_a_disturbing_academic_survey_published_in/
>>2461939
Nope. Just not easy to brainwash or clinging to asinine beliefs/conspiracies bc I hate women

No. 2461947

>>2461945
The study is by the same person. No one can access the study misinfo-anon posted but it stands to reason that if they could it would be similar (since again, it is a study by the same person if you already forgot reading that). I shouldn't even have to look for this, anon should have provided the info since it is her retarded and incorrect "fact"

No. 2461949

>>2461948
I literally can't. I start and my eyes roll instinctively before I can receive the info

No. 2461950

>>2461944
>this publication is worse because the heckin israelis don't trust it
>cites reddit
>im pro woman
>only if they're western women and follow the same ideals as me!
>claims to condemn misogyny
>jumps through hoops to defend jewish moids
Why are you so morally bankrupt? Surely you're not being paid this much to shill Israel on LC of all places, right? I wish you Israeli fucks could get deported.
>>2461947
The only misinformation here is claiming Israel is pro woman

No. 2461951

>>2461950
It was your study and you didn't and can't cite the study

No. 2461955

>>2461954
You definitely seem like the type. This is why I want a clear division between societies comprised of feral/barbaric humans and those capable of coexisting peacefully

No. 2461961

>>2461951
Once again, shifting the goalpost. Classic hasbara manipulation tactic. I don't understand why you're so insistent on defending the scrotes of your country if you're so "pro woman". But if you're a rich Ashkenazi from NYC holding dual citizenship with lawyer parents it can be hard to see the world outside of your own narrow scope. Considering Israel's lax attitude toward rape, the sample size is more than enough. But once again, you consider misogyny fine as long as the heckin jews do it
>>2461955
I'm not even that anon but if that's your attitude towards anyone who doesn't blindly lick the boots of your genocidal regime then maybe you're the barbaric one. October 7th truly was a wonderful day.

No. 2461969

>>2461961
Have you or any of the other anons posted a single thing to justify your weird hate boner for the ~evil zionists~? Someone posted a study that is probably fake or not even sampling jewish moids and lots of sexist insults. It seems like you're used to sperging about this in front of people who are even lower info than you are and not being challenged, ever

No. 2461973

>>2461961
They raped women to death that day

No. 2461983

>>2461969
>Have you or any of the other anons posted a single thing to justify your weird hate boner for the ~evil zionists~?
Are you retarded? Have you not seen the damage zios are doing to our country? Religious extremism is always bad, not just when muslims do it. I'll start with a more recent one; Anti BDS laws. It is illegal in the vast majority of states to refuse business with Israli companies. This has manifested into HURRICANE VICTIMS applying for relief funds being forced to not boycott Israel. All because of Jewish lobbying efforts.
>In October 2017, the city of Dickinson, Texas, required
applicants for Hurricane Harvey-relief funds to certify that they “(1) do[] not boycott Israel; and (2) will not boycott Israel” for the duration of the agreement.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3186369
>inb4 they were just following laws!
Laws that arose because ziocucks and their cronies value the feelings of a foreign country over the welfare of our own citizens. You faggots were expelled from 109 countries for a reason, look at how disgusting you are right now.
>fake study
Yeah, Jewish moids can never ever do anything bad. You are a handmaiden to moids through and through.
>>2461973
Yeah, just like the IDF did. Or is it fine when it's Arabic girls and women?

No. 2462011

>>2461983
>It is illegal in the vast majority of states to refuse business with Israli companies.
There it is. When you don't get your way banning jews from participating in your economy, you come up with discrimination against discrimination claims. The evil hollywood jew who was blacklisted from buying/selling wherever they live, so turn to lending, vaudeville/entertainment, resulting in their descendants being called satanic cult pedophiles and globalist bankers. Anyways
>Legal analysis
>As of 2020, the question of whether American anti-BDS laws are constitutional has not yet been settled in courts. Many analysts believe that sooner or later there will be a legal showdown due to the controversial nature of the laws. The debate about the laws' constitutionality focuses on two central issues:
>Whether boycotts of Israel, and boycotts in general, can be considered a form of discrimination on the same level as discrimination based on gender, race, or similar attributes.
>Whether political boycotts are protected speech. If so, laws designed to stop them could violate the First Amendment-protected freedom of speech.
This is the USA analysis, where there are semblance of laws and human rights so I'm not sure how you're debating this in your country, judging by your posts I'm going to assume "productively".

No. 2462034

>>2462011
So for Americans to get relief funds from a hurricane they had to pledge their allegiance to another country that isn't American? I had no dog in this fight before but it's kinda bleak how much Israel is raping the country.
>discrimination against discrimination claims
gen what does that have to do with hurricane victims? Their house blew away in the wind who cares about muh historical discrimination get over yourself

No. 2462040

>>2461912
ill find you just for the fun of it

No. 2462046

>>2462034
The agreement wasn't that they had to do business with Israel it was that they don't boycott Israel. Considering the history I mentioned with jewish blacklisting and how groups most interested in currently boycotting Israel, are classified as terrorist groups by the US, like the Houthi movement and Hamas >>2461869

No. 2462050

>>2462046
Who gives a shit about the semantic distinction? No American should be withheld from funding from their own country just because of the federal's allyship. You're owed no promise of anything from American citizens. If you love Israel so greatly then go live there permanently and go make an imageboard where you can all be annoying together. But don't cripple my country you political leach. Can't believe you tried to justify that. you're skinwalking as American and its cringe

No. 2462058

>>2462050
It's relevant bc banning jews from participating business (and then villainizing them for operating through gray market lending and entertainment) is the driving force of antisemitism. The funding doesn't only come from their own country, it comes from subsidiaries and international councils/banks. It's how they access cash quickly, like how elon musk has no money in his bank account

No. 2462064

>>2462058
>It's justifiable to withold money from natural disaster survivors because they don't want to by levi jeans and Amika hair masks
I wish the jannies would permban this skinwalker I'm revolted(infighting)

No. 2462067

>>2462064
It's kind of embarrassing that you either don't know what "boycott" means or are pretending you don't, so you can continue being antisemitic for no reason(infighting)

No. 2462347

>>2462067
Not all Jews are Israelis you fucking moron. More importantly, no one is required to do business with someone just because they are Jewish or Israeli, and you are a fascist for even suggesting that. 44% of jews in America make over 100k, I don’t give a shit if they lose money from that.Imagine claiming that anti semitism is le evil as if Jews aren’t more privileged than WASPs and have privileges other minority groups don’t have. The US doesn’t treat ANY other minority group like that. They’ve trampled over women and black Americans for decades which you continue to use Muslims as a scapegoat for. You ziocucks always screech anti semitism when something doesn’t go your way, you don’t care about misogyny, you don’t care about your fellow Americans, you care about sucking the dick of Jewish scrotes who would rape you without a second thought. Kill yourself

No. 2462348

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>>2462011
>Still trying to push the "Hollywood pedophilia is just a conspiracy!" line in 2025.

No. 2462357

>>2462348
Obvious scrote skinwalker hired by Mossad. That’s why they they larp as a feminist but only care when Muslims do it, and Jewish scrotes can never ever do anything wrong in their life. It’s revolting, really.

No. 2462402

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>There is no misogyny in Israel
The Ziochans sound like Joo Dee

No. 2462411

>>2462402
*JEW Dee

No. 2462420

>>2462067
Whose life is worth more a Jewish scrotes or a Muslim womans? It’s a simple question

No. 2462438

>>2462420
We all know Zionist "feminists" would gladly sacrifice any non-Jewish woman for Jewish moids, let's be real.

No. 2462473

>>2462438
I'm not either (or any) religion so not caping, but it would be the same the other way around anon

No. 2462489

>>2462473
Answer the fucking question and stop speaking in riddles. Whose life is worth more, a jewish scrotes or a muslim woman's?

No. 2462499

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I went to the vent thread and found this from several hours ago. This unintegrated zionist faggot is scraping through random threads trying to shill zionism. It's so cringe too they probably thought the vent thread was where disgruntled people in the Amerifags thread would run to air their opinions. This person isn't a farmer, I doubt it's even a woman. Like >>2462357 said, it smells like some hired shill.
I suspected from their typing style and vague responses but it's even more clear now.(derailing)

No. 2462509

>>2462489
I wasn't even the anon you were replying to kek. its not a riddle its the truth

No. 2462512

>>2462509
Okay then you answer it. Whose life is worth more, a jewish scrotes or a muslim womans?

No. 2462517

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>>2462499
>I'm all for the fact that radical feminism gets us to ask tough questions about ourselves…(samefagging/scrotefoiling)

No. 2462520

>>2462517
He didn’t even attempt to larp as a radfem. A radfem would never defend pornography or deny pedophilia in the entertainment industry(scrotefoiling)

No. 2462523

File: 1743002772761.jpeg (71.13 KB, 736x707, IMG_4114.jpeg)

>comes into my home country
>full of typical politsperging while the other country threads aren’t this spergy
>noticing things
>sigh
>full of people who probably aren’t even american
The only thing red40s have to talk about and bond with us their retarded culture war politics they’ve been infected with through internet algorithms. This is actually depressing, America thrives on polarization unless you want people to call you a “fascist” for wanting unity and order. Without polarization most people would be antisocial and spending their time committing more crimes and perversions in public

No. 2462533

>>2462523
>full of people who probably aren’t even american
This nonna. It's been astroturfed for the past 12 hours by "farmers." Kek its so depressing.

No. 2462535

More screenshots of the Signal conversation as well as a full list of members was posted. KF has them (were paywalled originally). I can't post them here rn but here's the link:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans.215501/page-2#post-20929005
Correct me if I'm wrong: the govt is pulling a protection racket on Europe (and Egypt?), amd members of the chat are hype about blowing up a country for reasons.(this is an imageboard)

No. 2462547

>>2462535
I dont think its showing nona

No. 2462549

>>2462533
Noticed how most of the country threads became quiet but this one is always active.. literal foreigners talking about politics that’s not even happening in their own country kek

No. 2462550

>>2462523
>red40s
Thank you, I'm going to use this now.

No. 2462558

>>2462512
the fact that the anon never responded is killing me

No. 2462565

>>2462489
Ntayart but muslim woman >>>> jewish men, all day every day. Muslim women tend to be handmaidens but many of them understand what men are and don’t try to hide it like Western women

No. 2462569

>>2460620
vance saying thoughts and prayers for victory was so corny and embarrassing. it's like he thinks it's "noble" (to scrotes) ground man to man combat and not just bombing poor people from the safety of a heavily armored plane

No. 2462572

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>>2462547
Here's a copy. The original editor put it up on the Atlantic since it has technically been declassified. Pic rel is the new stuff. Here's a link

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/?gift=A7aSJiR052B4cExDBCuc4RFNUKo-OC9KvyXU5erY7SM

No. 2462573

>>2455401
based for sure but i won't truly celebrate until he loses his power. he needs to die

No. 2462574

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>>2462565
Yes. All males are chimps and subhumans. It is known.

No. 2462576

>>2462568
thank u so much nonnita

No. 2462634

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>>2462572
If this had happened under literally anyone else republicans would've been the first ones to scream about impeachment or how "insert race or woman" should never be president, but it's trump and his circus of retards they're just going to pretend it's perfectly fine to lie under oaths and leak war plans. And the Democrats are too busy swaddling trannies to even consider doing anything about this

This country is so retarded and gay now it's insane.

No. 2462738

God I miss the Obama administration. At least when they were ordering drone strikes they had the decency to not use the same app that fucking drug dealers use while peppering their texts with gen Z-tier emojis. Fucking embarrassing.

No. 2462850

have any other burger nonnies noticed the quality of stores plummeting lately? numerous places where i used to shop are now dirty, staffed with very few employees, and often don't even have whatever i came to buy. i went to target today and it was a disorganized, filthy mess. one of the aisles smelled like actual human shit and i was so grossed out that i left without purchasing anything.

No. 2462942

>>2462850
yeah, import taxes are going through the roof and they're bracing for negative impacts in profits and shares.

big companies don't want to pay more for literally anything so they aren't replacing people who quit.

small companies can't afford to do anything about it.

thanks daddy trump! uwu(integrate)

No. 2463323

File: 1743040128603.png (244.46 KB, 760x674, 1000001715.png)

>>2462738
You sure about that nonnie?

No. 2463401

>>2462850
Happening here too. Companies are taking people off the schedule and rely on ghost crews which reduce productivity and cleanliness. It's gotten really bad in medical spaces because it seems like almost every office only has 1-2 doctors/dentists/etc working

No. 2463408

>>2463401
This has been the trend for the last few years, probably since covid to be honest. Companies realized they don’t have to provide customer service or a pleasant experience to still be profitable, so they don’t. They blamed it on covid, supply chain issues, employee issues, but they never wanted to actually fill those spots to begin with I think. I don’t know what’s the endgame of this but it can’t be good.

No. 2463710

>>2463408
When you play monopoly you get to a point where you don't need any competitors. Stores like Walmart and target no longer have to compete with mom and pops or even smaller chains because for a lot of Americans it's one of the only affordable and easily available grocery stores. Restaurants have became household names and most people wouldn't even think of checking out the new seafood place or the new Italian restaurant it's just "I want seafood, go to red lobster, I want Italian, go to Olive garden", and then with added harsh architecture, everything is cold and miserable, and then no one can think to point out how dystopian when we're unable to even get a glimpse of any form of happiness because profits > people. Americans stay being cucks

No. 2463781

>>2462850
The corner grocery store used to be a staple of this neighborhood, then it was bought up by foreigners who sell rotten produce jacked up to ridiculous prices. Disgustingly dirty as well. Not that my local CVS is much better. Everything is locked up due to rampant theft, employees are over it. Not sure why this happens to neighborhoods as it’s my first time living in a big city. Maybe it’s normal.

No. 2463904

File: 1743086927371.png (2.28 MB, 1170x1334, Gm-u1eqXAAExcRn.png)

????

No. 2463911

>>2463904
You can screenshot news or share links instead of taking a photo of your monitor grandmama

No. 2463934

>>2463904
Republicans have always been pro child labor. Probably one of their most consistent ideas. "Dey tuk our jerbs!!", why do they need children to fill it in then?
>>2463911
It's a photo from someone else going around lol

No. 2463952

>>2463904
>they want to bring child labour back while also removing their meal breaks
This is comically and cartoonishly evil

No. 2463955

>>2463934
Democrats really aren't fighting it at all. A handful of them supported some legislation related to it recently.

No. 2463982

>>2463323
Nta admins have been using Signal for a long time it's true. And if you ask me it's retarded, they definitely have their own systems and it shows a lack of confidence in them to use private sector software instead. But this is the first time to our knowledge that anyone has not only used it for top secret war plans, but the very first time for anyone anywhere to invite a literal journalist to the strike op gc kek. Funny screenshot though did you get that from r/conservative or /pol/ lol

No. 2463987

>>2463982
> lack of confidence
Probably has more to do with the fact that Signal is easier to use for these idiot boomers than whatever internal systems they have.

No. 2464008

>>2463982
They might as well use Discord at this point, kek.

No. 2464115

>>2464008
Don't go giving them any ideas now.

No. 2464157

>>2463952
I remember seeing a comment about how Republicans are just testing how much they can realistically get away with and still get supporters, and that's exactly what's happening

No. 2464170

>>2463781
It's because people are getting poorer.

No. 2464215

>>2463934
The conservative elites are for child labor, their constituents never stopped to think about getting paid a fair wage for those jobs because they unironically believe people who work those jobs are worthless and undeserving of a living wage. They never saw themselves in that position, they liked having someone beneath them to blame.

No. 2464221

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>>2462572
All their shit got leaked.
https://x.com/FideliusSchmid/status/1904998091301773571
Pete Hegseth has a Russian email address with the same password he used for his university. Concerning.

No. 2464267

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>>2464221
>Reached out for comment and they DFE
KEKK literal cows. picrel is a quote from the Signal chat from Pete Hegseth. 100% opsec everybody!!

No. 2464430

File: 1743109537250.png (865.96 KB, 1079x1652, 1000020984.png)

>A year after lawmakers relaxed Florida's child labor laws, a divided state Senate panel on Tuesday gave initial approval to a measure that would further roll back work restrictions for kids as young as 14.
>The bill (SB 918) would do away with restrictions on 16- and 17-year-olds, who would be able to work more than eight hours a day on school nights and over 30 hours a week while school is in session, without mandated breaks.
SB 918 also allows those as young as 14 to work overnight on school days if they are home-schooled or in virtual school

No. 2464572

>>2464430
Defunding the DOE, allowing teenagers to work overnight with no guaranteed meal breaks, it looks to me like they're aiming to keep a whole generation away from education. No doubt their next steps will involve choking poor and middle class workers so they have no choice but put their kids to work.

No. 2464618

>>2464572
Thank god I didn’t have kids. Imagine dragging them into this hellhole right now.

No. 2464637

>>2464572
So much for making america great again.

No. 2464667

>>2464430
This probably all flows down from elon saying something like, he wants American workers to be treated the same as workers are treated in china.

The boomers are probably cheering this on, as they really seem to hate the younger generations, and accuse them of having it easy. Maybe theres a way for this to backfire on elon/the moids happy about this.

No. 2464726

File: 1743126505499.jpg (252.42 KB, 1179x1349, cruelty.jpg)

If you hate the people who say and do this type of thing 90% of people will consider you a horrible bigot for discriminating against others for their political views btw

No. 2464745

>>2464726
Have you considered hating the person arrested more? The picture is based off a literal fentanyl dealer. Imagine preying on victims of the Sacklers (still not assassinated btw, incase anyone is thinking about anything) and deindustrialization.

No. 2464758

>>2464745
Have you considered that The White House should have more class than an edgy guy with a white sun pfp. The use of ghibli artslop is also in extremely bad taste

No. 2464769

>>2464726
What does this even mean kek

No. 2464773

>>2464745
>The picture is based off a literal fentanyl dealer
And the white house is using anime to represent the seriousness of the crime?

No. 2464776

>>2464758
I'd prefer more class sure. But considering all past administrations ignored the problem for literal decades to keep unskilled labor disposable and wages low?
I'll take what I can get.

No. 2464777

>>2464773
Thank you anon, i thought that it was such a weird post considering so many people are getting arrested for the exact same crime in droves, yet they singled her out and for what? The most ironic thing is that the woman in question is honestly very ugly, that cutesy studio ghibli image is far too flattering. There clearly is an agenda in picking her out specifically.

No. 2464780

>>2464430
>bringing back child labor
>president and cronies are rapists, pedos and perverts
>conservitards complain about why women don't want to have children

No. 2464787

>>2464776
You should be expecting our government not be run by emotionally charged retards who can't do their jobs. They can deport criminals without behaving like cringy right wing redditors you know? And worst of all Trump is tossing aside the "deportation all criminals" to focus on criticizers of Israel. But hey I guess they're "owning the libs" by posting ghibli ai shit of fat mexicans being deported right? And they're "owning the libs" by letting reporters view our war plans in group chats, and letting a South African deadbeat faggot gut all of our government programs to save $5 right? To own the fucking libs? Letting a ketamine pumped retard drain our social security for his stupid mars rocket? You stupid fucking bitches are literally crabs covered in aids dragging the rest of us down into a child labor laws absolving 3rd world shithole bucket all because you can't act like a grown adult, letting political bots backed by our enemies convince you that anything that is happening right now if for our own good. We are being FUCKED BY RETARDS.

No. 2464797

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>>2464776
Samefag before I get banned, your rapist daddy is importing immense amounts of cheap Indian labor so that you and trailer trash balding husband get to work 50 hour weeks.

You're not getting anything you voted for, no mass deportations, No actual laws protecting women or children, no good economy, Nothing. You are being fed literal dogshit until China or Russia finish gutting our profitable attributes until we're bled dry n' dead.

No. 2464812

>>2464787
>>2464797
Evidently people approve and want more?
>https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2025/03/19/donald-trump-approval-ratings-at-all-time-high-what-the-latest-polls-say/82510524007/
>The poll also shows that more registered voters now feel the country is heading in the right direction than at any point since early 2004.
You're the odd ones out. Even with all the turbulence.
And considering this election voters prioritized economy and immigration, maybe the other party should've offered someone who could bring themselves to criticize the policies of the sitting president.
"You" promised more of the same. So you got beaten by literal retards. LOL

No. 2464815

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>>2464812
Still blaming the party who didn't push deportations for losing instead of blaming the retard you voted in for not fulfilling his promises and designating Americans as less important than Israeli interests. I knew not to expect better but I'm not surprised. Talk to anyone in real life and they're not happy with trump and his cabinet of monkeys. Nothing he has done aligns with what you were promised. Nothing. You fucked up. kamala was doomed because democrats are too used to riding the Obama wave and didn't expect our country to be has misogynistic as it always has been.

You remind me of the gaza retards still yelling at democrat politicians, 5ft deep in denial.

No. 2464817

>>2464815
Keep acting like this. It's worked out swimmingly for you thus far.

No. 2464818

>>2464817
Take your head out of your ass and smell the air.

No. 2464821

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>>2464726
I didn't even know about this until now

No. 2464829

>>2464787
Extremely based. Saying what we're all thinking

No. 2464843

>>2464815
Yeah but the Red guy beat the Blue guy so the world is right again.

No. 2465035

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>>2464726
Good, now do this with all the white pedoscrotes, especially the ones who are/were in their government. I wonder why they won't?

No. 2465036

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>>2464797
Not just importing cheap Indian labor, kicking out intelligent people to cuck out to Russia. Every single "deport the illegals, but pls more indians and child labor" faggot is also co-signing shit like this and hoping nobody points it out.
They really do want a third world-ification of the US to make oligarchs more money. Now scientists in the US are considering leaving for Europe.

No. 2465040

>>2464812
Yes, MAGA is a literal suicide cult, what else is new? These people would celebrate if they were gassed alive if they were simply promised that the woke left were being fed shit next door. You can spell it out for them how none of what they were promised is either happening at all or is in reality any way beneficial to them like they thought it would be, but they would still ignore it because accepting that they were lied to would be worse than dying. These people will literally march to their graves insisting that daddy Trump and tech-based billionaires have their best interests in mind simply because they said pronouns are cringe.

No. 2465046

>>2464821
Maybe I’m just cynical (or paranoid), but I wonder if they are using her face because she’s fat and ugly, and misogynists hate nothing more than a fat, ugly woman. I’ll be honest, seeing some fuggo drug dealer get arrested in a humiliating way doesn’t inspire much sympathy in me. I can only imagine MAGAtards are foaming at the mouth.

No. 2465047

>>2465046
Yes, and she's brown and could be mistaken for part-black in >>2464726 (they made her even browner in the drawing lol). It's obvious what they're doing.

No. 2465149

>>2465035
Because ICE can’t deport American citizens you tard kek

No. 2465190

>>2465149
Are you retarded? I'm asking why they don't make AIslop cartoons to dunk on their white pedos, especially ones who fly to other countries to rape kids, helping to shit up the name of the USA. MAGAtards really do have nothing in their heads.

No. 2465196

File: 1743173836238.png (1.1 MB, 1079x1835, 1000020990.png)

>On March 26, 2024, Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish Ph.D. student at Tufts University, co-authored an op-ed criticizing the university’s response to student demands for divestment from Israel, which was published in its student newspaper.
>On Tuesday, as captured on video, a half-dozen masked agents of the Department of Homeland Security ambushed Ozturk as she left her Somerville apartment to meet friends. She was surrounded, cuffed, led into an unmarked car, and driven away, apparently for the crime of having co-authored that op-ed. Despite a court order blocking authorities from removing her from Massachusetts without advance notice, she was flown to Louisiana—where many other visa holders like herself who have been critical of Israel are being held
>When asked Thursday about the student’s detention, Secretary of State Marco Rubio dismissed the uproar. “We revoked her visa … once you’ve lost your visa, you’re no longer legally in the United States,” he said. “If you come into the U.S. as a visitor and create a ruckus for us, we don’t want it. We don’t want it in our country. Go back and do it in your country.”
>Rubio confirmed recent reporting that the U.S. State Department had revoked 300 student visas—most or all for criticizing Israel

No. 2465202

>>2465190
I’m not a Trump supporter. You sound like a sped. It’s actually funny to me that a dumb AI picture has triggered anons so much. Poor illegal brown drug trafficker!!1
Sorry the pedoscrote didn’t get his own AI fanart, but he’s going to JAIL. Why are you even complaining about that? When you spend your time screeching about dumb shit like this, it’s no wonder that the Republican Party, as retarded as they may be, are able to out maneuver you at every turn. You keep taking the bait.

No. 2465221

>>2465202
>Heheh, sorry anons, did the AI slop fanart TRIGGER you??? Tch! Outmaneuvered again!
Kek are you sure she's the one who sounds retarded?

No. 2465228

>>2465221
I mean it clearly did trigger that anon though. And yeah, the White House posts ragebait because it gets attention. Do you understand politics? Why do you think your greentext rewrite of what I said is some own? But back on topic, this ragebait was so meek, I’m surprised anyone even cares.
Democrats should focus on issues that actually affect American citizens, not cape for illegal criminals getting deported. Most Americans support that, so it’s a losing political strategy.

No. 2465255

Everyone is fighting about Israel and Palestine and I just think the best solution would be to kill all men within a 10,000 mile radius starting at the Gaza Strip and see what happens. Idgaf if they are Jews or Muslims or whatever. Anything male has to go, handmaidens be damned.

No. 2465274

>>2465196
I really don’t care that they deported some Turkish international student, but they could do it in a less creepy way. If some masked man confronted me outside my house and demanded I put on handcuffs, I’d mace him.

No. 2465302

>>2465274
I know this may enrage some anons here who reside only in their online echo chambers and are out of touch with what most people feel, but usually I either don’t care or support non-citizens getting deported because I think we should not have our borders open to illegal criminals and we should not let our colleges turn into visa mills like Canada for international students that hate our country but feel entitled to be here anyways. However, in this case it seems like she didn’t break any laws, so her visa should not have been revoked. It would be one thing if she broke into a building and vandalized it like some protesters have done, but all I’ve read is that she wrote something the Trump administration didn’t like. Even if non-citizens don’t technically have “free speech,” it’s obviously politically targeted. Judges have overturned other similar deportation orders, and it seems like that should happen here too.

No. 2465339

>>2465228
>>2465302
The sperging about "illegal criminals" makes your posts really identifiable, by the way. And the way you keep going on about the evil international students makes it clear that you feel threatened because of your own mediocrity. All of the immigrants I've met feel a variety of ways about the country, many more than you think actually love the USA, or at least they did before the media became actively hostile and disdainful towards them. Because they're literally just people who came from somewhere else, different races, different cultures, different languages, different levels of naturalizing. There's basically nothing that actually links them and yet you keep sperging on about the Scary Illegal Criminal International Immigrant Amalgam. It's hilarious honestly

No. 2465347

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Wait is this that one anon who admitted to only being rw to piss off the "lefties" who use the amerifag thread?

No. 2465353

>>2465339
>you’re identifiable!
I’ve made two posts using that phrase in an ongoing discussion which isn’t surprising considering we’re literally discussing the deportation of non-citizens. I’m trying to articulate my opinions in such a way that you can understand how someone with a different perspective might think. As I previously stated, I hope that Rumeysa Ozturk is not deported because she’s not an illegal criminal, just a student here voicing her opinions, but you’re presumably mad because I criticized actual illegal immigrants. I can tell you are concerned about anti-immigration sentiment because you think most immigrants are good people, and I think that’s probably true too. However, all you have to do is take a look at what is happening in Canada and Europe to see what happens when liberal societies are flooded with too many immigrants from different cultures. It’s much, much worse there, and it could be much, much worse here if we don’t find a middle ground that enables better regulation of who gets to come into this country. I have immigrant friends who have lived in multiple countries including the US/Canada/Uk, and they have told me that Americans are much more tolerant of immigrants than any other country they’ve lived in. Yes, there is still xenophobia here, but that xenophobia will only increase if you act like everyone who doesn’t want mass immigration is actually a rabid racist because it alienates a lot of people and ignores the root issues.

No. 2465354

>>2465347
Nope, and I’m not even right wing.

No. 2465356

File: 1743180776166.jpg (29.07 KB, 736x736, 1000020991.jpg)

>>2465302
>illegal criminals
Great rage bait, almost thought you had zero reading comprehension for a minute there

No. 2465359

>>2465353
Something I think you're not understanding is nobody itt is against deporting criminals and stopping the H1b flood. I feel like it's important you know that before you continue to sperg at anons for finding the aislop fasciporn gross and unprofessional.

No. 2465360

>>2465356
>Ragebait
I’m stating a fact. This is an illegal criminal >>2464821. Sorry my phrasing is too inflammatory I guess?

No. 2465361

>>2465202
You don't have to deepthroat the Trump administration for everything they do just because you don't like immigrants anon

No. 2465365

>>2465359
>nobody itt is against deporting criminals and stopping the H1b flood.
Kek then why are anons accusing me of baiting or being a right winger? Seriously, can you people just have a normal conversation? Where am I defending AIslop? That’s not something I care about beyond finding it cringe.

No. 2465369

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Anyone in the south seeing these huge fucking bumblebees flying around? I've been setting up- my garden for the summer and I've seen like 5 of these ladies flying around my head and I swear they're the size of my thumb

No. 2465370

>>2465360
You might have responded to the wrong message Nona. The person you were responding to was talking about >>2465196, that's about a woman who was detained by ICE despite being here legally

No. 2465373

>>2465361
>You don't have to deepthroat the Trump administration for everything they do
Where am I supporting everything the Trump administration does? Can you actually read or…?
Alright, I’ll stop replying to retards here. You guys have made my point for me.

No. 2465378

>>2465373
ma'am your immigration sperg, don't forget to take it with you
>>2465228
>>2465353

No. 2465383

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>>2465347
Unironically yes lol they sound exactly the same. I think it's their last hurrah before the vpn ban.

No. 2465385

>>2465370
I’m clarifying who I was referring to when I said “illegal criminals” because that wording upset anons here. I have said multiple times I don’t support the deportation of the Turkish student. I mean this nicely because you called me Nona and I appreciate that, but you have to follow the full conversation. Multiple deportees have been discussed here.
>>2465383
Schizophrenia.

No. 2465393

>>2465385
>Sorry that I upset you hehe
No one's upset. You just sound retarded seething about "illegal criminals".

No. 2465397

>>2465393
If the phrase “illegal criminals” is too offensive for you, why are you on an imageboard? Genuinely?

No. 2465400

>>2465202
I just want you to know that after I called you a retarded MAGAfag, I went to take a walk for 2 hours. It's funny that you're still in here seething in all that time. It's been known that you faggots are fat and uneducated, too.

No. 2465402

>>2465397
I'm not offended, anons in this thread are just pointing out that you sound stupid. Sorry if our doing that offends you?

No. 2465405

>>2465400
I’m actually skinny and employed! Kek. But for real, it’s a slow day at work for me, and I’m not seething as hard as you think I am, though I am at least a little disturbed by the knee-jerk retardation displayed here.

No. 2465409

>>2465383
It's definitely her, the typing style is the same >>2465202

I'm going to repeat this for you florida woman, we don't care if the ugly fent dealer gets deported, that's awesome. But the White House and overall Reddit Cabinet are acting like retards and it's embarrasing for us as a nation. <- Please reread until this sticks.

No. 2465410

>>2465405
Defending AI on an anonymous imageboard is fat and unemployed behavior, I don't believe you. Anyway, pedophiles should be mocked, especially when they have any political relevancy because they're a shame to whatever country they're from. Idk why this bothers "some people" so much.

No. 2465412

>>2465409
I’m not Florida-Chan, sorry. Accusing me of being some random anon that you also disagreed with is the funniest cope yet.

No. 2465414

>>2465412
You are one with her in soul so the message still applies.

No. 2465415

>>2465409
Literally, it's hilarious how much she capes for the fat botched moids in power. We all agree that drug dealers should be either deported or jailed, but that includes the natural born Americans with meth labs and not immigrants who are just going to college KEK

No. 2465416

My biggest issue with immigrants a lot of work gets outsourced to them. Delivery apps, small gigs, and flipping they once use to be good paying aren't paying jack because these people don't have any major bills or standards for themselves. They'll take shit for literally $2 an hour with no tips just because and it would be fine but now companies aren't paying anything because they know immigrants will take the terrible pay anyways

No. 2465422

>>2465410
>Defending AI
I hate AI. But I also think cringe AI fanart of ICE deporting a crying drug trafficker is literally the least of my concerns. Why do you retards keep trying to make things up for you to use as a “gotcha.” Second case in point: >>2465415. Never stop being schizophrenic, LC.
>>2465414
Florida-Chan, we are one! Unfortunately you’d probably disagree with all my views except those on immigration, but we can make this work.
Seriously, it’s a slowww day at work. Anyone else have any made up issues with me? Kek.(baiting)

No. 2465425

>>2465416
They've basically killed jobs that were supposed to go to American teenagers and young adults, and they tend to lie about their gender on apps. We need to just make certain jobs not available for immigrants at this point. And stop all immigration of men aged 20-40 for a few decades

No. 2465431

>>2465425
This. The McDonald's near a HIGH SCHOOL is ran by an entire immigrant family that barely speak English and give terrible service. They'll hire said high schoolers so it technically looks like they're doing something good but will end up firing them after a week because they also refuse to train said high schoolers

No. 2465433

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>>2465422
What's the gotcha? I suggested putting this moid on the front of the White House Twitter account since they're into memeing on criminals now, and ridicule him, and you're here triggered and complaining about the libs for reasons you won't explain.

No. 2465439

>>2465433
At this point stop replying to her and make her do her job. Seems to be a major case of attention seeking and boredom so she'll just keep going back and forth with you just for the sake of arguing.

>>2465431
That sounds like complete aids nonna, is there some way you can report the restaurant for hygiene issues or something like that? If they have enough complaints someone form HR will probably take a look.

No. 2465443

>>2465433
I haven’t said “libs” even once, and go ahead and make AIslop of that guy to ridicule. But what do you think it will accomplish? Average LC activist kek.

No. 2465444

>>2465369
So jealous, nona. I love bumblebees.

No. 2465446

>>2465439
You're right, kek

No. 2465900

>>2465416
So your issue with immigrants is that they get taken advantage of by greedy corporations and companies, instead of having a problem with said companies who lower salaries to an inhumane degree for their own benefit?

No. 2466000

>>2465900
We get to kill 2 birds with 1 stone with deportations and strict immigration that weeds out losers and criminals.
1.Less gross misogynistic men from shitty countries taking advantage of companies paying low wages.

2. Companies adjusting the prices and raising their wages to maintain a customer base.

No. 2466022

>>2465353
It’s bad in Canada and Europe because the people they allow to immigrate are essentially all benefitting from the very generous social services and living off the welfare state. None of the illegals here get any welfare. They work shit jobs that nobody else wants to work. The government is deporting them and now we’re going to basically have AMERICAN CITIZEN child slaves doing the work illegals did, getting paid even less than illegals. We don’t have welfare and it’s hard as fuck for citizens to get a pittance meanwhile immigrants in Europe and Canada can live decent lives off social welfare and barely work. You fundamentally don’t understand anything about the immigration crisis in the EU and Canada and don’t understand that the “illegals” you hate here are by an large just doing farm work to keep your groceries from being even more expensive than they already are.

No. 2466028

>>2465416
That’s not why they’re not paying you. Besides now that they don’t have enough immigrant they’re just going to make American CHILDREN work. And remember they can legally pay these kids (anyone under 20, actually) 4.25 an hour for the first 90 days of employment and the state government in Florida wants to increase that to the first 365 days of employment! Making America great again amirite??

No. 2466031

>>2465431
The immigrant family likely owns the franchises location, you idiot. They’re likely all permanent citizens.

No. 2466033

>>2466000
>2. Companies adjusting the prices and raising their wages to maintain a customer base.

KEK that you think that will happen. See >>2466028 they’re just going to force school kids to work for pennies.

No. 2466062

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I genuinely from the bottom of my heart do not give a fuck about the middle east, can we please move to nuclear energy so that we're not tied at the balls by Israel or any other shithole across the Atlantic? Is that too much to ask for?

No. 2466074

>>2466062
The oil companies want our money unfortunately, and oil lobbies are too deep in the government for them to care.

No. 2466080

>>2466074
Why is that coal and oil plants can fail hundreds of times and no one bats an eye but one nuclear reactor fails and suddenly it's a dangerous energy source that we shouldn't use

No. 2466083

>>2466080
I think the persons you replied to answered your question already. Because oil companies profit from the fear of nuclear energy.

No. 2466087

>>2466080
Well, to be fair, a nuclear plant exploding is a much bigger deal kek

No. 2466131

>>2466087
Nta and that's true but coal plants make the surrounding area much more dangerous for the people living there, basically poisoning the water and air, meanwhile the last time nuclear plants hurt an entire community like that was Chernobyl 40 years ago. In addition we would need far fewer nuclear plants to replace the output of the coal plants. Not to get on a soapbox about it I just really wish we could all get on nuclear instead of being led around like dogs by oil barons

No. 2466294

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>>2465369
Do they look like they have lips? I've been getting huge carpenter bees on my porch and the males look like they have little yellow lips. Pretty cute. The females I've been seeing are huge.

No. 2466356

>>2466031
No one said they're not permanent citizens, also franchise owners typically don't work there unless it's a CFA - franchise owner

No. 2466418

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The past election defines American sadism and incompetence perfectly. They were too busy getting off on others drowning that they forgot they are also on the sinking ship

No. 2466470

>>2466022
The most American post I've ever seen.

No. 2466489

>>2465425
>We need to just make certain jobs not available for immigrants at this point.
Unironically this. It shouldn't be nearly impossible to get a basic kitchen job, especially if you don't speak Spanish. In b4 dumb American doesn't know languages, I'm already multilingual, I shouldn't need to learn a whole new language fluently to get a side job cleaning at a hotel. And it's such a massive red flag to me when an industry is like 90something % staffed by one ethnicity. Like tell me you want to do slavery without saying you want to do slavery.

No. 2466571

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The right is trying to cancel children's shows now. I think it's crazy that they accused the left of insane censorship and pushed themselves as "pro-free speech" just to do this. Screeching "communist" and "woke" is enough to make some people's brains turn off and get them to agree to anything, kek.

No. 2466579

>>2466489
This. Ofc someone will say
>But they're taking the jobs we don't want!
But people in poverty "need the jobs they don't want", the issue is that immigrants typically live in housing situations that don't require bills so take laughably low pay that wouldn't be okay to anyone who's rent is more than 400 a month, and then those positions get taken up by immigrants and Americans that need jobs that can pay the bills end up with nothing

No. 2466582

>>2466028
>you can't ban immigrant slave labour, they will just make children work instead
What the fuck is this logic?

No. 2466584

>>2466582
They'd rather fucking die than pay adults liveable wages

No. 2466586

>>2466582
NTA but that's unfortunately the logic of those in charge, see >>2463904. I'm just wondering why American adults aren't taking the employment spots? There are tons of poor/low-income American adult citizens. Are they just too fat? Is it drug addiction? Obviously, many don't want to work for little to no pay, but it can't be all of them.

No. 2466601

>>2466586
Where the hell did that come from? Almost all unemployed people I know are applying to anything and everything and getting rejected left and right. Hell even staffing agencies are ghosting people

No. 2466602

>>2466579
Americans in poverty are not willing to go live in a rundown RV in the middle of nowhere without basic utilities for 6 months and pick vegetables for 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, and make less than a 40hr/wk Walmart cashier doing it. It's been tried multiple times. Every time a state scares immigrants and they flee, they end up using prison labor and produce rots in the fields.

You want to put a stop to immigrant slave labor undercutting Americans wages? Give the immigrants legally protected rights. Kicking them out has never and will never work.

No. 2466611

>>2466602
There's literally an app called WWOOF that involves Americans actually working for FREE in exchange for living in slave quarters/free parking for their van they are living in without utilities. Unpaid internships are already a thing but it's unbelievable Americans are willing to work for little money and long hours?

No. 2466638

>>2466571
Anything showing an ounce of diversity or teaching kids empathy is evil.

No. 2466668

>>2466602
You are deeply out of touch, if it was guaranteed work at state mandated minimum wage, I know tons of people would and do flock to farming jobs where I live. I have applied to them. Do you know how many people are itching to quit a desk job and who do crazy workouts in their free time because they don't get to use their bodies otherwise?
There might be high turnover depending on the situation, but it's legitimately not been seen as a viable career since before I was alive because immigration and labor laws have worked hand in hand to make an immigrant slave lite class instead of adjusting federal minimum wage or immigration or labor laws to be fair or make consistent sense.
So while agriculture is like basically one of the oldest signs of civilization and humanity, it's been degraded, diminished, bastardized, destroyed, etc. by people who don't respect the basic concept of growing food to sustain a culture from understanding and practicing basic biology. They think it's ooga booga caveman slop that must be performed for free by brainless people, ideally with melanin, for as little money as possible, if not for free.

No. 2466673

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Does anyone else love American political dramas? Like movies, shows about badass presidents etc. I always find them a bit weird though because I don't feel like any other country is making modern day pop culture cults around politicians except for maybe the Royal family. I wonder how the whole President worship in Hollywood started. Like you don't see a bunch of UK films about the Prime Minister

No. 2466755

>>2466668
>>2466602
The answer would be to figure out what immigrants are doing to be able to afford rent and bills despite making very little, and then just get Americans to do that

No. 2466775

>>2466755
iirc generally they aren't paying rent or bills, the people working in the fields are living in 'housing' (shacks) that are being supplied by the farmers who are paying them under the table to avoid detection in the first place.

No. 2466791

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Who do you think is the hottest president nonnies? I think young Gerald Ford was pretty cute

No. 2466840

>>2466775
What's stopping farmers or other employers from offering that then? It would even be helpful to teenagers who are being kicked out by their parents and can't join the military/go to college

No. 2466847

>>2466840
They Don't Want To. lmao
literally everything comes down to employers and business not wanting to treat the American workforce with basic living wages. That's why they're so hellbent on keeping the lowest class of people in America either immigrant or brown in some way, they get off on the sadistic nature of slave wages/treatment.

No. 2466848

>>2466840
Your time traveler from the 1950s larp is not entertaining. If all of your neighbors are using neo slave labor, it's already too late and that has become the industry standard. It's literally written into the law for agricultural workers to be exploited despite that being a bad long term investment for many reasons, including taking away thousands and thousands of jobs that could be compensated fairly if corporate farm interests didn't fight tooth and nail to make sure people are never paid anything remotely close to a living wage.

No. 2466856

>>2466848
Shit, when I was 18 I would've happily lived in a crappy shack on a farm and picked fruit or something all day but I couldn't even get a reply back from fucking MCDONALD'S which was paying like 5 an hour at the time

No. 2466866

Does anyone else feel so blessed to live in the US because we have both hummingbirds and lightning bugs? Literally magical fairy creatures and Europe and Asia are missing out.

No. 2466868

>>2466866
i feel blessed that we have opossums

No. 2466873

>>2466866
Lightning bugs exist in both Europe and Asia, and most hummingbird species are native to South America.

No. 2466876

>>2466868
WHAT is the point of the silent o at the start?

No. 2466877

>>2466876
It’s not silent. You can spell/say it either way. Opossum. Possum.

No. 2466878

>>2466868
One time I saw a tiny kitten outside and I left some food out hoping it would come back, but then I checked the food and a possum was eating it kek. Scared the shit out of me at first but it was kind of cute.

No. 2466880

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>>2466877
Ntayrt but I thought the no o possum was this Australian animal. Pronounced the same way but spelled different. English is weird like that.

No. 2467010

File: 1743276286437.mp4 (9.85 MB, 1920x1080, rapidsave.com_garcia_these_two…)

>>2466571
Reminding me of the PBS/NPR hearing…

No. 2467030

>>2467010
Yep this is going into one of those American politics out of context compilations lol

No. 2467052

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YWNBW and I support Trump now

No. 2467067

>>2467052
He's a rapist.

No. 2467070

>>2467052
Still not worth everything else that idiot does.

No. 2467083

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>>2467070
This administration feels like what happens when you have a monkey’s paw and wish for no more trannies.

No. 2467101

>>2467052
Lower gas prices and no more trooning out kids? Fuck yeah

No. 2467107

>>2467052
he's a rapist, a criminal, racist, probably fucked multiple trannies in nyc when he was younger, probably fucking trannies now. he's tanking the economy. he is apathetic to the plight of women everywhere. you're retarded and probably fat as fuck, if not male

No. 2467114

>>2467052
>omg the rapist said trannies aren't women! i support him now
And that's how you end up with an ugly, abusive old husband who gives you herpes and autistic children in a one-bedroom apartment, too. Get some standards.

No. 2467129

>>2467107
And he said he would marry his daughter? Like he is peak worst moid, disturbingly creepy, literally allowed to get away with the worst crimes, and given infinite money and power. He had a broken clock moment, please get a grip.

No. 2467192

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>>2466868
Same, I'll never forget this one time I took a Polaroid of my dad posing next to some random ass possum we found in Texas during a vacation. Good times.

No. 2467196

>>2467192
This looks like the perfect day nona

No. 2467209

>>2467192
Is that possum dead

No. 2467214

>>2467209
nta I thought their shtick was playing dead. Y'know. "Playing possum".

No. 2467216

>>2466571
If Marjorie Taylor Greene and Benny Blanco had a baby, it would literally just be a baby orangutan

No. 2467220

>>2467209
No, it was alive and hissing but it was paralyzed at least so it wasn't moving. I think my dad just rolled it off the sidewalk after the picture but it's been so long i don't recall.

No. 2467221

>>2466880
Ohhhhh yeah maybe you’re right and I’m just a dumbass kek

No. 2467223

File: 1743286419552.jpg (205.98 KB, 951x951, 1000022712.jpg)

>>2466571
Obviously this bitch is trying to get Sesame Street canceled because her former career was being a fucking muppet.

No. 2467227

>>2467129
>He had a broken clock moment, please get a grip.
The anons who praise Trump because he has one or two policies they agree with are probably gonna be posted on the peatard thread in about 6 months kek

No. 2467717

Have you ever had any close encounters with wild animals? I was once asleep in the car on a camping trip (hated sharing a tent with my sisters the snoring was too much) and a black bear came and started snooping around. I slept through all of it but my dad and our family friends started screaming at it because it was apparently trying to push the car windows in.

No. 2467727

>>2467717
I went camping with my mom several years back and one night, we heard snapping twigs as something walked past the tent. We heard a low, snarling growl as it walked right up to the tent before leaving. It turned out to be a mountain lion because we found large paw prints in the morning. We got really lucky it left us alone. Even though we had our axe in the tent, I'm pretty sure if it had attacked us, we would have been fucked. We were in a campsite with other people around, so it was pretty wild that a mountain lion would wander into it at night

No. 2467844

>>2466840
Do you unironically believe that Americans will tolerate living in converted horse stalls, making sub-minimum wage money for backbreaking labor?

No. 2467886


No. 2467900

>>2467727
Damn, that’s horrifying.

No. 2467939

>>2466840
Any American can go live in a rundown RV with 6 other people and get paid by the crate to pick veg, right now. There is nothing stopping them. They are already choosing not to do it. And every time a state scares off the immigrant population, Americans continue to choose not to live that way in order to do that work. Are you just not able to read or what? This has been explained to you multiple times now.

No. 2467944

>>2466611
Unpaid internships lead to better employment opportunities down the line. Back breaking farm labor leads to nothing but more back breaking farm labor if you're American. If you're Guatemalan, you can send money home to help your family and the ultimate goal is to save up and go back home and start a business. Americans have no low CoL country to save up to return to. We're stuck here. That's the big difference.

No. 2468533

>>2467944
To be totally fair (and I don't think people should have to work back breaking farm labor jobs just to make a living either), Americans could go to a low cost of living country. A lot of people have done it

No. 2468605

>>2468533
In theory yes, but if you have no family there, no cultural ties, don't speak the language, etc you will need a lot more money to survive there than someone who does have all those things. American expat communities in Latin America range from barely cheaper to more expensive to live in than the US itself.

No. 2468612

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This is just insane. I don't have any words. What the fuck are they even talking about if they're not even allowed to use the word "runoff"?
https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1906358812291813719

No. 2468616

File: 1743386059098.jpg (8.92 KB, 320x180, 1658882237510.jpg)

>>2468612
>banning the words "safe drinking water"
What the fuck is the point of that?

No. 2468625

>>2467939
Except it's worse than you know, a lot of Americans are literally choosing to work for free just to park their RV at some farm and bumfuck. The biggest issue is that the farmers aren't choosing to use things like WWOOF, unpaid internships, etc because a lot of Republican farmers are batshit insane and want to abuse the immigrants they hire and rape their wives and shit, and even though they know they could easily get free labor and all, doing what they do to an American citizen would land their asses in jail fast

No. 2468626

>>2467844
… Unironically? Yes. If Americans could easily choose to live in better conditions homeless shelters wouldn't be a thing. Bed bug covered shelters with 100s of people sleeping in one room that you have to PAY to stay in get filled up quick, including by people who work multiple jobs. Is it not believable Americans will absolutely work for free housing regardless of how shitty when they're paying to sleep in bedbug infested 300 bed shelters?

No. 2468629

>>2467939
This is such a weird and disingenuous take. First of all, no natural born Americans can't just stroll up to a farm and get a job. They aren't going to get hired when they have legal protections, a higher minimum wage, know the language and aren't afraid of being expelled from the country. It's not just picking fruit like kids on a field trip, there are a wide range of tasks on farms all of which require skill and experience to do efficiently in a commercial setting. Most Americans aren't accustomed to 8+ hours of physical labor in the elements without hazard pay. No one should have to be live like or be paid like migrant farm workers are. Instead of seeing that as the actual problem, you blame Americans for not volunteering for exploitation. Like would anyone who could make $8/hr at Walmart voluntarily make $4/hr that to live in subhuman conditions? The issue is with greed and exploitation, not Americans being too lazy.

No. 2468635

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>>2467220
>it’s been so long I can’t recall
>pic is dated August 2021
>tfw ur 30 and 2021 feels like last year
Maybe should post on the tinfoil thread but I think I’m in a time warp or dimensional flux since I got in a car accident in early 2021 I honestly feel like I’m in hell and basically I wasn’t the best or the worst person but leaned towards more neutral-bad than good so I ended up on a microcosmic hell that’s pretty bad but not unrealistically bad. Then again I also feel like the world stopped being real sometime between 2012-2016 but maybe it’s just been a 10 year long flux cycle and I’m finally settling into the fully altered hellscape

No. 2468637

>>2467717
Yeah lots of times tard wrangling tourists who are scared of there being gators in the water (if it’s water and it’s not a swimming pool there’s probably gator in there and no it’s probably not going to get you unless you’re a yorkie sized dog or a toddler). I’m not scared of gators I just give them their space.

Lots of foxes and armadillos that I’ve gotten too close to on accident, lol. Once saw a fox and her kits and thought it was a mama cat and kittens and got close and the fox looked at me like I was crazy. An armadillo lived under the shed at my old house and liked to torment my dog, those things are SO CUTE up close (don’t touch them though they can carry leprosy). There was a mama raccoon that lived in the tree at my old house that would bring each years litter of babies around to have snacks with the cats and possums. There was a huge possum my cat used to bully lol (tbf that possum hogged the outside cat food dish and was a very slow-mover). There was a baby possum that eventually wasn’t a baby that liked to spend the night in the semi-outdoor laundry room. One time two hawks got into a fight in my backyard and I got some really cool photos of them locked together and fighting, they were all bloodied and looked badass but were just making chirping noises. I saved a baby squirrel and a baby possum and baby flying squirrel and brought them to wild life rescues. Also saved a juvenile owl with a hurt wing - they will seek humans out when they’re injured, it’s weird.

Lots of random up close encounters with deer and rabbits of course. Seen some muskrats in the water and those dudes are super cute. Lots of random bear sightings, scariest wild critter sightings would be the feral hogs. Those things are brutal. Rutting male deer are scary too.

No. 2468638

>>2468635
You have depression, compounded by long-lasting unresolved trauma from the car accident.

No. 2468655

>>2468637
Does anyone remember that guy who hiked a lot so he could observe bears up close to take pictures and record them, and both him and his girlfriend got mauled and killed while camping and the attack was recorded? He called himself The Grizzly Man and said that people can live with bears

No. 2468661

>>2468655
Yes there’s a documentary about him. Tbf it took him a long ass time to get mauled by a bear and iirc it was one that saw him as a threat to his dominance kek

No. 2468663

>>2468637
I liked reading about your experiences Nona. Makes me want to visit. I’m assuming you’re in Florida since you mention tourists, so have you ever seen manatees? I just moved recently and saw woodchucks for the first time and had no idea what they were. They were huge.

No. 2468965

>>2468533
>Can’t get work as a day laboring slave? Move to some shithole!

No. 2469119

>>2468635
I feel the same in certain ways. I nearly started crying when I was remembering the simpler happier times prior to 2021. Not even personal memories but how the world wasn't so fucked, how people seemed nicer and more innocent (in a good way). idk. I'm sorry, anon. I've picked up painting and am trying to work through my feelings that way. My paintings have been very, very dark and eerie. I like to think of it as some kind of purging process.

No. 2469309

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>>2467101
You’re definitely a scrote or a bot but he’s not going to lower gas prices, even if he wanted to, he can’t. Our country is failing because retards here still think the president controls gas prices.
Anyways trump wants to run for a 3rd term. At least he owned the trannies tho right gouys!!!

No. 2469315

>>2468965
Damn what the hell are you so aggressive for, I was just pointing out that they were saying immigrants can go back to lcol countries and Americans can't but we can, I know a few people who have done it. It's not as hard as you'd think, and you can live like a king if you've saved up quite a bit of usd and have decent qualifications/experience. I will repeat AGAIN though that I don't think people should have to do that to make a living, OR back breaking labor. We should all be paid a living wage

No. 2469319

>>2469309
“In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote.”
He was pretty clear that was his goal from the start. What were people expecting?

No. 2469336

>>2469319
They keep doing this. He has "I am a horrible person" emblazoned on his forehead like a neon sign 24/7, and retards keep saying "Oh that's not what he meant, he was just trying to trigger the libs, he's only a horrible person to bad people, not normal and good people like you or me! It's 5D chess, he's trying to help you, it's all a joke, trust #ThePlan, so much winning ahead, we don't need the department of education, we don't need to stop companies from poisoning us, we don't need safe drinking water". They literally sit there and write excuses for a man that called himself smart for tax evasion and flew to Epstein's island lol. I can't explain how or why they're so fucking dumb. The only ones winning are billionaires who don't want any poorfags scraping their way up to their level.

No. 2469339

>>2469309
But I feel like most of the younger Americans are gonna try to get JD to run

No. 2469341

>>2469339
No, i doubt that. hes going to need a hell of a campain because even the most far-right republicans hate JD vance

No. 2469346

>>2469341
I haven’t met anyone who hates Vance? Most people are either neutral about him or fangirls kek

No. 2469350

>>2466873
Lightning bugs in Europe are inferior to American lightning bugs. Imagine thinking that a glow worm could compare to the beauty of a fire fly.

No. 2469354

>>2469339
He has said one plan to get a third term is to run Vance/Trump and then Vance steps down like a cuck kek. Of course in the constitution this isn't possible but who knows if they'll try. To be honest though I don't think it's a good idea to go for the youth vote, it's just not a reliable demographic. There has to be another Republican out there that can run 2028 right??
>>2469346
You have to be joking lol all I see about Vance are those photoshopped memes, I do think people on the right like him though

No. 2469357

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>>2469354
Making Vance memes isn’t inherently hateful

No. 2469358

>>2469346
My family hates Vance after the Zelenisky stunt.

No. 2469361

>>2469346
The people saying this are the same people saying trump supporters are disappointed with trump. Just competed clueless, totally lost, passing around vague rumors they desperately hope are true. It's all they have left, aside from vandalizing cars.

No. 2469364

>>2468663
NTA, but I live in Florida and I went swimming with the manatees. It was hilarious because they have absolutely no boundaries.
So I'm swimming and just kinda chilling, but I don't realize a baby manatee had snuck up behind me and the whole tour group turns just as the baby grabs me from behind in a bear hug. Except even as a baby, he weighs 600 lbs so his weight naturally pushes me under water and I fling my hands up to stabilize myself and the tour guide starts panicking and yelling, "You can't touch him! You can't touch him! He's a highly endangered mammal!"
Meanwhile, I'm going "Bublulubbrubrubb!" since my face is underwater and there's a six hundred pound baby on my back that's hugging me while gently nosing at my hair and making cute chirping baby noises.
10/10, would absolutely get cutely drowned by a manatee baby again.

No. 2469372

>>2469361
Anon I never claimed to feel disappointed in anyone, and I also don’t support committing crimes against others either

No. 2469377

>>2468663
Nta but I see them from shore. Looks almost prehistoric when they come up for air if you don't know what they are. They can move quite fast when they want. I live along the coast, they move back and forth in the saltwater. Same with alligators. Never fails to amuse me when tourists or newly minted Floridians don't understand that gators can tolerate saltwater for a period of time. People also freak out seeing deer on the beach or swimming in the Gulf. I have to admit though it's a really pretty sight to see deer on the shoreline.

No. 2469381

>>2468533
I did it and I have 0 complaints. I immigrated to a different country 2 months ago. In the USA, I was poor, a victim of constant misogyny, exposed to tranny perversion, barely able to afford a home, and generally miserable. Since moving here, I'm happier than I ever have been before. Moving to a country where women are respected members of society and where I can afford to live comfortably was a major boost to my self-esteem. I don't have to be worried about gun violence, I don't have to worry about cleaning my house, I don't have to worry about a lot of stuff anymore. Finally living in a developed country made me wake up and realize that America, or at least my state New York, is a 3rd world shithole. My nigel was trying to convince me to move here for a year, ever since we got married, but only after Trump assumed power did I realize that I truly wanted out. I know for me it's easier than most because my husband was already a citizen here, but honestly the process of moving wasn't difficult at all. I recommend it to everyone upset at the current political situation in the USA.

No. 2469406

>>2469381
What country nonna?

No. 2469407


No. 2469481

>>2469361
I find the republicans trying to like fat faggot Vance just as pathetic as the democrats trying to woobify rapey uncle Biden. Who is actually "fangirling" over a lardass who whines about childless cat ladies kek literally where

No. 2469551

>>2469407
…Chantal?

No. 2469726

>>2469346
>>2469361
Sorry, but you're not going to convince me that the guy who labeled conception via rape an "inconvenience" has fangirls outside of tradthot circles.

No. 2469823

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He named his son Vivek.

No. 2469835

>>2469381
>don't have to worry about misogyny in Saudi Arabia
good bait

No. 2469860

>>2469407
Saudi fucking Arabia? Fuck that

No. 2469864

>>2469381
>I don't have to worry about cleaning my house
Yeah cause now you have a slave to clean and cook for you kek. Saudi Arabia is not a developed country and is a third world shithole, you’re just rich and have a well connected rich Muslim moid husband.

No. 2469871

>>2469864
I don't trust anyone who unironically uses nigel.

No. 2469903

>>2469381
>>2469407
The state of the amerifag thread. Here we have an anon telling us to move to Saudi Arabia so we can escape misogyny. Foreign shills, deport yourselves from our thread.
How many house slaves from South Asia do you have btw?

No. 2469907

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So under the bill, TSA isn't going away, it's just getting privatized
>"The TSA has not only intruded into the privacy and personal space of most Americans, it has also repeatedly failed tests to find weapons and explosives. Our bill privatizes security functions at American airports under the eye of an Office of Aviation Security Oversight, bringing this bureaucratic behemoth to a welcome end. American families can travel safely without feeling the hands of an army of federal employees," Lee told Fox News Digital in a statement.
>The measure would officially abolish the TSA three years after being enacted into law, which the senators believe would provide time for security needs to be privatized.

No. 2469908

>>2469903
Fathers can legally murder their daughters in Saudi Arabia. They have literal Sharia law and there’s no punishment if a father kills his daughter. But yeah woohoo no misogyny despite you know living in a patriarchal theocracy. Fucking retard I hope one of her slaves decides to do something horrible to her.(a-logging)

No. 2469911

>>2469907
They just want to hire their buddies to handle security, what could go wrong with nepo babies handling airport security? We are so fucking cooked.

No. 2469915

>>2469908
>i hope one of her slaves does something horrible to her
this going way too far, you shouldn't wish that stuff on anyone

No. 2469919

>>2469915
Nta but our obsession with being the better person is why we're losing.

No. 2469927

>>2469339
vance is a fat unlikable retard. he's musk-lite, an insufferable kiss ass for trump. he also married an indian woman, he's never going to president. indian hate is growing.

No. 2469931

Why are multiple anons taking the saudi arabian bait kek

No. 2469933

>>2469927
I’ve always just seen him as one of the millions of random fat guys

No. 2469935

>>2469903
I'm not a foreign shill, I'm a proud American. Anons in this thread are becoming increasingly xenophobic. I've been living outside of NY for 2 months and I'm getting called a foreign shill? I still have my American passport and citizenship. The government can't deport citizens. Yes, misogyny exists in KSA, but misogyny in the USA is much much worse. In KSA, I can walk alone with my husband at night without fear of being mugged or assaulted by criminals. In KSA, I don't have to worry about crazy oligarchs like Trump destroying the country through incompetence. In KSA, I don't have to be skimping and saving to survive. I already went on a vacation since moving here, and my husband and I are planning 4 more before 2026, but back in NY I was lucky to vacation 2 times a year.

They are not slaves. They are servants. They get over 5 hours of time off every week and they're paid more than 150 riyals per month. It's crazy that you're so comfortable spouting dated racist stereotypes about KSA. Just because people here are wealthy enough to afford servants doesn't mean that they're slave holders. Meanwhile slavery WAS real in the USA and it's STILL real if you're in prison.

>>2469864
I'm not rich, but KSA doesn't tax any income, which makes it way easier for working class people to move up the socioeconomic ladder. When we were living in NY, we were bringing in $140k a year before taxes, and we were still lower middle class and unable to move up in life. Now that we're here, we make $150k a year and there is no taxes and we can enjoy a true middle class life without having to worry about where our next meal will come from or how we'll afford rent.(blogging)

No. 2469937

>>2469935
Oh here comes the sealioning and "I make six figures and didn't know where my next meal was coming from!!" This bait is so fucking obvious what do you even get out of this? Pure joy of shitting up this thread?(report and ignore)

No. 2469939

>>2469935
i thought you could only emigrate to saudi through marriage? can singles do it and do you know if there's a demand for graphic designers?

No. 2469947

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>>2469935
Ah yes, what sweethearts.

No. 2470007

>>2469407
Ah yes, the country where women didn’t even have the right to drive a vehicle until 2018. A bastion of feminism.

No. 2470016

>>2468616
Whaddya think? Having safe drinking water is bad for business and acting out of concern for others/the future is a notoriously lib attitude.

No. 2470292

anyone watching the booker filibuster? he's on like hour 14 at the moment. is this the right play by the dems?

No. 2470294

>>2469947
>"You can swim across the red sea and get yourself back to Kenya"
What the actual fuck

No. 2470361

>>2470292
I wonder how long they plan on keeping it up. 17 hours now.

https://youtu.be/rCUK2VbdLS4
>U.S. Senator Cory Booker addresses the Senate floor. Booker, a Democrat from New Jersey, has promised to speak "as long" as he's physically able on the Senate floor Monday night into Tuesday morning, criticizing the Trump administration.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-sen-cory-booker-protests-trumps-agenda-in-marathon-senate-speech

>New Jersey Democratic Sen. Cory Booker carried an all-night speech in protest of President Donald Trump’s agenda into Tuesday morning.


>Booker railed against cuts to Social Security offices and spoke to concerns that broader cuts to the social safety net could be coming, though Republican lawmakers say the program won’t be touched.

>Donning and doffing reading glasses, Booker read what he said were letters from constituents. One writer was alarmed by the Republican president’s talk of annexing Greenland and Canada and a “looming constitutional crisis.”
>“I hear you. I see you, and I’m standing here in part because of letters like yours,” Booker said.
>On Tuesday morning, Booker got some help from Democratic colleagues, who gave him a break from speaking to ask him a question. Booker said he would yield for questions but would not give up the Senate floor.

>According to the Senate’s website, the record for the longest individual speech belongs to Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, who filibustered for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the Civil Rights Act of 1957.

No. 2470399

>>2466668
>So while agriculture is like basically one of the oldest signs of civilization and humanity, it's been degraded, diminished, bastardized, destroyed, etc. by people who don't respect the basic concept of growing food to sustain a culture from understanding and practicing basic biology. They think it's ooga booga caveman slop that must be performed for free by brainless people, ideally with melanin, for as little money as possible, if not for free.
Slavery came into being because agriculture became a thing. If anything they go hand in hand, only poor people worked their own land.

No. 2470477

>>2470361
This is frankly one of the better moves they could make right now by actually trying something instead of rolling over like neolib shitters. I have my own problems with Booker and the Dems, but this at least appears to be some kind of action.

>According to the Senate’s website, the record for the longest individual speech belongs to Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, who filibustered for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the Civil Rights Act of 1957.


Important context on what this Dixiecrat moid was trying to stop:

>President Eisenhower proposed the bill to provide federal protection for African American voting rights; most African Americans in the Southern United States had been disenfranchised by state and local laws. Though the bill passed Congress, opponents of the act were able, in the Senate, to remove stringent voting protection clauses via the Anderson–Aiken amendment and the O'Mahoney jury trial amendment, significantly watering down its immediate impact. During the debate over the law, Senator Strom Thurmond conducted the longest one-person filibuster in Senate history. Under the direction of Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas, the Senate passed the watered-down version of the House bill.

No. 2470761

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I know it's time to get over it, but I'm still upset about the fact that nothing was done about the obvious rigging that happened last election. Everyone who watched it closely saw all the shady shit that went down. Unbelievable.

No. 2470872

>>2470761
Biden's election? The election where they actually got to do a recount? Lol

No. 2470984

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Looks like Elon pissed away 20 million and did his retarded X jump again for no reason kek.

No. 2471031

>>2470872
Anon, last election would mean the most recent election.

No. 2471127

>>2470984
Kek awesome

No. 2471220

>>2471031
My bad, you're right. I was just being a sperg
>>2470984
Predictably, he's blaming left corruption for this kek

No. 2471444

>>2470761
The last fair major election we had was probably in 1996 or 1998. Since 2000 we've had the spread of unauditable voting computers, mass ballot discarding, and exit polls suddenly stopped matching election results. The government doesn't have to try as hard to hide it anymore since the majority of voters now have never voted in a fair election.

No. 2471477

Happy Freedom Day nonnies! We're going to take back our country by making everything extremely expensive!

No. 2471514

>>2471477
>first word is cowardice
even their songs are negative and antagonistic, ew

No. 2471516

>>2471477
This is so fucking disturbing. Reminds me of North Korea type propaganda.

No. 2471647

life in the middle east can be great as long as you're under a moid's protection. the vast majority of the wealth from the middle east comes from oil subsidies. there are some countries where native-born citizens are so wealthy just from oil money that they don't have to work, so they import labor from developing countries. they have sparkling shopping malls filled with state-of-the-art attractions and designer shops, fast food restaurants, theme parks, and luxury apartments and hotels.

but consider this. we are headed for a massive oil glut. we actually have too much oil, not too little. the majority of china's cars are electric. how many electric cars do you see on american roads now? a good number, at least where I live. more countries and communities are using solar and wind power rather than oil. a good chunk of europe is under nuclear power too.

so what that means is that any country built on oil money is going to experience economic hardship. the retards who voted for trump because they wanted dollar gas can't see past their own noses to realize that there's going to be significantly less demand for oil in ten years. other countries are way ahead of us on this. we're basically on par with the pajeets and africans in terms of our demand for oil.

so, yeah, life in the middle east may seem great for a while. all you have to do is cover up your whole body in public and never go anywhere alone. that might seem like a good trade-off to some nonnas, especially those who grew up conservative. but how easy is it in your country to get a divorce if your moid cheats on your or, worse, starts beating you up because his dad and mom tell him to keep you in line? what if your moid demands he control your money, your job, your kids? moids change. he may seem like your nigel now, but that might not be the case in ten years. add that to the oil money drying up with nothing but tourism to replace it…not a bargain i'd want to risk, myself.

No. 2471718

Trump pulling funding from “anti semitic” universities on the basis of that makes me feel something more sinister is going on, it’s 100% part of trumps anti intellectualism campaign and how much he loves the poorly educated as we know. Maybe I’m just tinfoiling but it definitely feels deeper than that

No. 2471738

>>2471444
>exit polls suddenly stopped matching election results.
I always see people saying that the reason polls are off now is because the population just can't be polled anymore, no one answers their phone etc. Even poll aggregators are fucked. The presidency has become a tossup practically every time and it throws people into a frenzy like it's the superbowl. I always thought it was just hyper-polarization but recently I was reading about the 2004 election and the same thing happened where it was super close, polling was 50/50 and exit polling showed Kerry in the lead, and then Bush won. I wasn't an adult then so I don't know what the vibes were or the political landscape but I guess I've just been wondering how elections could possibly be fair now that they're done electronically, with how big this nation is it feels impossible to get a real measure on the people. 50 years ago there were quite a few elections that were actual landslides, not like 55 45 (which is a landslide now) but 80 20 even. It's crazy how things have changed

No. 2471801

>>2471718
on Trump's campaign website, they laid out their plans to create an "American University" that would be free to attend. presumably the university would basically be a right-wing indoctrination factory where they would emphasize "classical" Greek-based subjects and not bother to offer courses that would fall under any kind of DEI or CRT - meaning, no classes where Black history is mentioned, or women's history, or any kind of discussion of race or class. there are many right-wing influencers such as Christopher Rufo that want to remake higher education so that only these approved versions of subjects are taught. it's more than just the "job-centered" talk they gave a decade ago to justify cutting the humanities and arts; they also are attacking anything "woke" in STEM, including infectious disease research, nutrition, women's medicine, all that. MAHA is loaded with it too. all of this is coming out of fundamentalist Christian and Tradcath communities. look for small, private schools in your community labeled "classical school" and you'll see them. they are everywhere. this is why they want vouchers too - they don't want to send their kids to school with poor kids or black or hispanic kids, but they also don't want to pay the enormous cost of private school, so they want the government to pay for it. meanwhile they're all bitching about how their nice white kids didn't get into harvard, yale, or princeton even though they managed to get affirmative action abolished. it's because these mid schools produce mid kids who can hardly read and write. that's what happens when parents teach classes and you spend a third of the day in Bible study.

No. 2471846

>>2471444
i don't get this. i am a bit slow so bear with me, but to vote you have to show your id. i get that ballot boxes get burned but how do "unauditable voting computers" and "exit polls" disrupt that process?

No. 2471965

>>2471846
NTA but
>unauditable voting computers
The computers are not examined, meaning that incorrect data goes through the system
>exit polls
Not a disruption, but the exit polls being very off from election results show that something is wrong

No. 2472002

>>2471965
>exit polls
NTA but I really don’t think exit polls being off is unusual at all. If you study statistics, you learn how biased the results of polling are because people will never be 100% truthful. This is a very documented phenomenon.
As for media polls, liberal news channels reporting how Kamala was ahead in the polls was probably due to the bias of their audience and copium.

No. 2472043

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>>2471846
No you don't

No. 2472046

>>2471477
Except other countries are starting to cut tariffs, cope harder

No. 2472049

>>2471738
That's because leftists just print however many ballots they need to win +1. That's why it's always so close.

No. 2472193

>>2472046
What countries are cutting tariffs and by how much? I’ve only seen them going up.

No. 2472238

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>>2472193
Israel, India and Vietnam have cut or are considering cutting them(ai outside of containment )

No. 2472239

>>2472238
Disgusting ai shit

No. 2472253

>>2471477
consooming is the anerican past time, people are going to actually start getting politucally engaged

No. 2472290

>>2472043
>Liberal states with liberal policies vote liberal
Well, color me shocked

No. 2472336

>>2472046
That just means goods from the US will be a bit cheaper to buy in those countries, not lowering the cost of what imports from anywhere will be in the US you retard.

No. 2472346

>>2472336
Love how all the people who have never picked up an economics textbook are suddenly experts on tariffs and definitely aren't just repeating what they heard from the news and social media

No. 2472621

>>2471444
>>2472049
It's fucking wild that Trump supporters still believe there's some sort of conspiracy against them after Trump won the popular vote and every battleground state.
>>2472336
MIGApedes don't understand econ and believe that unaffected companies will continue to maintain current prices rather than responding to the market and making their goods cost ever so slightly cheaper than those from affected companies

No. 2472670

>>2472049
It's funny (read: pathetic and delusional) that you say that since 100% of the election/poll discrepancies and irregularities have been in favor of Republicans and conservatives for the last 25 years. And we've never once had a Republican lose an election while winning the popular vote.

No. 2472672

>>2472043
Most of the red ones don't require id either, retard

No. 2472693

File: 1743678006113.png (1.33 MB, 1080x1352, tired of winning.png)

This is how the tariffs were calculated. The admin literally, unironically doesn't know the difference between a trade deficit and a tariff.

No. 2472717

>>2472693
I was wondering how Cambodia ended up being labeled as "97%" tariff. Now I see, it's more retarded than I could have imagined

No. 2472883

>>2472693
Throwing in a 10% floor to fudge the already retarded numbers lmao we are so fucked

No. 2472891

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In other news, let's use real eggs for kids to destroy at the easter egg roll! That's not a waste at all.

No. 2472913

>>2472693
And what calculation would you use, anon? Please explain in your own words, without looking at the news and simply repeating what they say, why this is bad and what they should have done instead.

No. 2472964

>>2472913
If I were to place "reciprocal tariffs" on other nations, I would look at the tariffs they have placed on my nation and implement ones that are reciprocal to the tariffs they have placed, as the name implies.

No. 2472971

>>2472964
His whole thing is balancing the trade deficit. So it makes sense to look at the trade deficit for each country and use tariffs to bring it to balance. A lot of countries slap "totally not a tariff" taxes on US imports, which would be missed if he only looked at tariffs.

No. 2472977

>>2472891
Anon, I hate Trump but this is the stupidest case of pearl-clutching I’ve seen in a while. The White House keeping to a kids tradition on a one-day event this year will not increase the price of your eggs.

No. 2472998

>>2472971
That's unspeakably retarded unless the goal is just to make products, and particularly products that America can't or won't manufacture, too expensive to consume in excess. Which is a noble goal, but I don't think that's the intention.

No. 2473006

>>2472998
The goal is to encourage manufacturing in the Americas (including South America) and to negotiate better trade terms with countries that have an imbalance with us.

No. 2473011

>>2472336
What do you think happens when the us sells more products into another country? Could it possibly be.. the us makes more money? Hmmm

No. 2473013

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No. 2473016

>>2473013
Why would no ID even be a thing? this is wild

No. 2473021

>>2472891
Good. No more plastic.
>Oh boy, I wonder if I should purchase this cheap piece of shit product from China that will takes thousands of years to break down and causes numerous health problems in every conceivable way, or if I should use this immediately biodegradable product?

No. 2473024

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>>2473016
Committing fraud is literally the only reason

No. 2473031

>>2473016
>>2473024
The US didn't require voter id at the polls until 2006. Every single state requires it to register to vote. I live in a state where a voter id is required at polls and it's not inconvenient, but I don't really care that some states don't require it twice. It just doesn't seem like some big conspiracy kek really liberal states with liberal policies vote liberal?! Someone call the FBI
>>2472977
Nta but 30,000 eggs is quite a bit… it won't increase the price of eggs but it's pretty tasteless to openly trash 30,000 eggs when they cost so much and he ran half his campaign off it. Whatever, let them eat cake I guess

No. 2473038

>>2473031
Why are you guys assuming the eggs will be trashed..?

No. 2473039

>>2473006
Well, none of that will happen beyond a handful of anecdotal cases, so enjoy tanking the economy so that a random car manufacturer or two can pledge that they're totes going to open more factories in fentville USA and trashcanistan will agree to import more meat that their consumers can't afford

No. 2473042

>>2473031
Wrong, not every state requires ID to register either

No. 2473045

>>2473039
It happens when other countries do it though

No. 2473050

>>2473039
Fentville, USA, was once a booming industrial town with a strong middle class before multinational companies realized that slavery still exists de facto in undeveloped nations.

No. 2473056

>>2472977
nta but it's still wasteful. You know they aren't even going to eat them, they'll just throw them straight into the trash. They might as well do plastic eggs with candy and toys inside of them, that's more rewarding and interesting for kids anyway.

No. 2473057

>>2473045
There has never been a case of a country enacting broad tariffs against every other country. Tariffs are almost always used strategically to protect industries that are important to national security.
>>2473050
Yes, and those jobs aren't returning because in real life a Cambodian will work for a tiny fraction of the pay, and in much worse conditions. Sorry!

No. 2473061

>>2473042
I see, so is it just your social security and address or what? It's been a long ass time since I registered. I still don't see how this leads to voter fraud lol if the libs have complete control over states with no voter id laws then why did Trump win NV and PA?
>>2473038
What are they gonna do after dying them and rolling them around lol resell them? And idk if you've ever done egg rolling especially with kids but I assure you not many of those eggs are making it off the lawn unbroken kek

No. 2473067

>>2473056
Do you guys throw away your eggs? I always ate them when I was a kid

No. 2473069

>>2473061
Yeah basically you just say you're so and so. Trump won those states because there were a huge amount of people watching polls and ballot counting last year compared to previous years.

No. 2473072

>>2472977
I'm not living there rn so I don't care about the price. I just think it's funny that we just imported a fuckton of eggs to get prices down and now 30k eggs are about to be wasted. If 1k get eaten, I'd be shocked.
>>2473056
My grandmother uses wooden eggs for games like this! The egg roll doesn't need to be done with a real egg, nothing changes in the game.

No. 2473077

>>2473069
I don't get it, are you saying there is a lib cabal going around stealing people's socials and voting in their stead cross the country lmfao. And if someone was just watching the polls in California they would've voted Trump! Kek come on nonnie why is it so unbelievable for you that some people are just liberals that vote democrat and some people are just conservatives that vote republican? Do you live in a bubble?

No. 2473087

>>2473077
Because I don't believe it's a coincidence that mostly places with no voter id lean left, that they started leaning more heavily left immediately after no voter id was implemented, or that leftists would screech about how important it is so much if it was really that unimportant and just a coincidence. Theres also a reason no other country has such a stupid policy

No. 2473088

>>2473057
>Yes, and those jobs aren't returning because in real life a Cambodian will work for a tiny fraction of the pay, and in much worse conditions. Sorry!
I don't think that this is morally right or ethical. I don't like knowing that multinational companies can exploit workers in Cambodia or wherever else to generate more profits for the CEO and board of directors to enjoy. I think that more companies should be barred from off-shoring and be required to pay higher taxes and fees for off-shoring. I think that there should be more manufacturing and industry in our country to combat poverty.

No. 2473089

>>2473006
oh man they're gonna use all those ready to go factories with fully trained employees and updated equipment that aren't going to take 3-5 years from now after this retard moid is in his third term to get up and running amirite?

No. 2473093

>>2473089
>Why start working out now? It's gonna take 3-5 years to see results. You should keep eating lard and grease and never move.
Some of you are so short-sighted that it's comical. Oh no, companies will have to pay people to construct factories! Oh no, companies will have to hire Americans to work in those factories! Oh no, things will be made in America! Oh, the horror, the horror! There's no winning with cynics like you.

No. 2473094

>>2473088
Most other countries understand the importance of local manufacturing for their nation. It's only countries with a globalist infestation that get told this is somehow bad while they hollow out the working and middle class for a quick buck.

No. 2473097

>>2473093
These same people have probably railed against temu and shein forever, but now that something is actually being done, it's bad, because the news man said it's bad

No. 2473098

>>2473087
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree anon because I just don't think every state in the union would've voted for Trump if only there was someone watching the polls lol

No. 2473099

>>2473097
That's what gets me. The dissonance of it all. This is what happens when you have no morals or ethics of your own and rely on other people to tell you how to feel and think about issues. They're the first to cry out against imperialism and colonialism, but also the first to defend it. People with no critical thinking skills are usually the loudest.

No. 2473107

>>2473093
You're such a fucking dumbass. It doesn't make any fucking sense to say oh we're only going to make things in this country when domestic manufacturing has been gutted for decades and there is no fucking infrastructure to manufacture things like china, and omg building factories requires every fucking thing that is now a million times more expensive to acquire. Enjoy not being able to afford fucking anything dumbass.(infighting)

No. 2473109

>>2473097
>>2473099
Can you two chill the fuck out lol. Nta and I would personally be very glad if the tariffs work and manufacturing is brought back here, but I understand why some people are concerned about how they're being implemented. There's zero need to start declaring anons have no morals or ethics

No. 2473112

>>2473099
No one is fucking defending imperialism, there's no way people are actually this stupid. Like I understand why there are mass shooters in this country everyone is so goddamn stupid.(infighting)

No. 2473120

>>2473109
We are chill. We're not the ones calling other anons "fucking dumbass" for disagreements or calling others "goddamn stupid" for having a different opinion.
>>2473107
What's with the aggression? Infrastructure has to be built. Domestic manufacturing has to be started. It's a process that takes time, but there's no better time to start than now.

No. 2473123

>>2473109
It's fair to call out people for hypocrisy. The left has been complaining about foreign manufacturing for ages - the sweatshops, the environmental impact, the capitalism, the consumer ideology of more more more - but now something is being done, it's a problem? It just doesn't add up and make it look like they never actually cared about that stuff. I don't know what else you would call that if not lacking morals and consistency.

No. 2473130

Should I start investing burgernonas

No. 2473134

>>2473120
No actually a better time to start improving domestic manufacturing would not be when RAW MATERIALS are now 20-40% more expensive like why are conservative trolls trying to pretend that they're calm and rational when literally nothing being done makes any fucking sense. I bet you will love it when segregation comes back and have very calm rational responses for that too. You're a fucking dumbass, I'm not sorry.

No. 2473136

>>2473088
Then figure out how to implement an alternative to capitalism because companies aren't going to stop acting on profit motive and the only way to keep manufacturing on US soil without enormous impact to the cost of consumer goods is govt subsidies. That's the only way you'll get your West Virginia sweatshops short of some insane North Korea-tier bullshit.

No. 2473137

>>2473130
If you're starting for the first time, start small. If you're talking about big money, then hold off for a few months, at least until the tariffs are more figured out than they are now. Research industries that you're interested in and try to talk to a financial advisor. Everyone should be investing, no matter how much money they make or how much money they invest. There are some financial based threads you can check out here too if you want more in-depth discussion.
>>2473134
>>2473136
I'm not conservative and I'm not a troll. I'm starting to think that you're doing some trolling yourself kek.

No. 2473144

>>2473137
You're talking investment strategies on 4chan for girls please go fuck yourself you privileged piece of shit(infighting/baiting)

No. 2473147

>>2473134
Well acktually nona, you need to put all the carriages in front of the horses. You surely just don't get it!

(Honestly: Incentivize manufactures to come back to the US by, I don't know, providing raw material incentives for them to actually build facilities than tell them to go fuck themselves with more expensive raw materials.

If we're good enough to give Comrade Musk billions of fucking dollars in subsidies, may as well extend the offer to BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST before cutting everything else off. We have literally zero to offer to offset the fire we just set to our international relations.)(learn2integrate)

No. 2473150

>>2473097
Oh, I support what's happening…just not for the reasons you want me to.
>>2473137
>I'm starting to think that you're doing some trolling yourself kek.
You're a great case study for why companies have trouble filling skilled manufacturing roles in the states.

No. 2473156

>>2473147
>>2473134
What if I told you the US can also manufacture raw materials

No. 2473159

>>2469339
JD Vance is a retard nobody likes him

No. 2473161

>>2473144
KEK what the fuck does this mean

No. 2473162

>>2473161
It's a self-report

No. 2473164

>>2473156
Everything needed to create things is not readily available in the US omg why am I about explain the concept of trade to either a troll of a fucking idiot. We don't have everything we need. We need trade. If there are raw materials that we can extract, probably at the cost of the environment and the health of everything and everyone involved, that is now exponentially more expensive. The government is shooting the country in the foot and stomach and watching it slowly bleed out and pretending that is a real strategy.

No. 2473166

>>2473161
KEK sorry that you're illiterate

No. 2473170

>>2473166
"4chan for girls" "privileged" for encouraging nonnies to invest if they are able…okay kek i hope the meds begin working soon

No. 2473171


No. 2473173

>>2473170
Kekkle yeah omg imagine calling a privileged asshole a privileged asshole for describing how to invest their disposable income on a thread about how historically insane measures are being enshrined into law that will destroy the global economy.

No. 2473174

>>2473170
Women are their own worst enemy, you can literally invest like $5, idk how that's "privileged"

No. 2473178

>>2473173
i really think you need to learn emotional regulation techniques. i myself am struggling with money too but would love to begin investing if i can put a few dollars aside. why would you rather get hysterical about these matters rather than try to have some control over your situation in tiny ways?

No. 2473179

>>2473164
We actually do have most of what we need, America is an incredibly resource rich country. We just don't do it because it's cheaper to buy it somewhere else. Why is it better to pay somewhere else to pollute the earth, or pay someone else to employ children to mine, then pollute the environment even more shipping all of it here? Is all of that really a good thing?

No. 2473180

>>2473173
Take your meds anon

No. 2473182

>>2473174
Yes people are total retiring on that one $5 stock they bought that one time. Privileged assholes don't like how easy it is to clock their bullshit and lack of life experience and how they just parrot the same conservative talking points. You will never know what it's like to struggle, and you can't just enjoy that, you need to get on the internet from your high horse and spew bullshit.

No. 2473186

>>2473182
you don't know what you're talking about vro, take a breath

No. 2473187

>>2473182
You don't know anything, I used to be poor too.. then I invested my money.. that $5 stock could be $100 in a few years. But you don't like to think in long time frames, now do you? Why invest $5 when I could buy a $5 trinket from temu, right? At least until meanie bad orange man ruined that lol

No. 2473204

>>2473187
I have never bought anything from temu and I don't think it's smart to tell someone whose $5 could go to a loaf of bread or bar or bottle of soap to invest it in the stock market when we are looking at pre 1920, 2008, red flags blazing recession indicators, Mackenzie.

No. 2473207

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>>2473204
Pipe down liberal, bread is like 8 dollars now. And if you're not investing at some point you're doomed anyways.

No. 2473208

>>2473207
>Shilling investing when the stock market is plunging and will only get worse

No. 2473212

>>2473208
Nona… you're supposed to buy low…

No. 2473213

>>2473212
Sure and if you gamble enough times you'll totally win big! See you at the slots nona!

No. 2473214

>>2473213
Another victim of George Bush, i know it's not your fault.

No. 2473219

>>2473214
I absolutely know that you did not graduate or attempt to be an adult in 2008, please shut up sweaty. Reading is good for you!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
>The Great Depression was a severe global economic downturn from 1929 to 1939. The period was characterized by high rates of unemployment and poverty, drastic reductions in industrial production and international trade, and widespread bank and business failures around the world.

>The economic contagion began in 1929 in the United States, the largest economy in the world, with the devastating Wall Street stock market crash of October 1929 often considered the beginning of the Depression. Among the countries with the most unemployed were the U.S., the United Kingdom, and Germany.

No. 2473220

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_financial_crisis

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession

>The Great Recession was a period of market decline in economies around the world that occurred from late 2007 to mid-2009.[1] The scale and timing of the recession varied from country to country (see map).[2][3] At the time, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) concluded that it was the most severe economic and financial meltdown since the Great Depression.


But it's all going to be great right? Invest that $5!! You will definitely be able to retire!

No. 2473226

>>2473219
That other anon is a complete moron, but she's right about the market – unless there is an historic catastrophe (which could be the case right now tbf), you will make money if you invest over a time horizon of decades. The people who were able to invest and buy property from 2008-2010 made out like thieves. However, it's best to dump your much/most/all of your money in index funds instead of gambling, and I'd wait until the market shows sustained signs of recovery and other economic signals look good given how unstable the current admin is. This will likely happen within a few years unless it's totally joever for the US.

No. 2473233

>>2473219
>>2473220
I graduated in 2009 and have made over 150k investing, cope and seethe

No. 2473249

>>2473233
Yeah and all the BS people say on the internet is true.

No. 2473252

>>2473249
Whatever, your staying poor isn't my problem whatsoever. You're right, investing is stupid and has never worked for anybody. It is much better to blow all of your money

No. 2473255

>>2473252
Imagine being salty that someone online told you that putting your money in the stock market rn is objectively retarded.

No. 2473259

>>2473255
Your IQ is insanely low, no wonder China beat us again. We deserve to lose if half of the population is this retarded.

No. 2473260

>>2473255
It's objectively dumb to.. buy stocks when they are low?
If you bought stocks when they were low in 2008, you would be up over 700% now

No. 2473264

>>2473259
Yeah, because I totally voted for the racist braindead rapist in charge to tank the global economy and love having to spoonfeed idiots online who thinks it's fine actually and nothing will change when presented with objective facts about reality and history because they are too hard headed, smooth brained, comfortable, oblivious and blinded by privilege.

No. 2473265

>>2473259
All of the tariff whining is starting to make a lot more sense now

No. 2473270

>>2473264
You can't even do basic math lol

No. 2473285

>>2473270
Girl what basic math am I not getting? It's stupid to put money into surviving the economic disaster around the corner by investing in my basic needs and self care instead of flushing money down the toilet because in some fantasy alternate universe I will be rich in 40 years while anyone with a brain is ringing alarm bells about a global recession? I almost feel bad for how much money you're going to lose, but you want everyone else to go down with your sinking ship because you think financial institutions are infallible despite there being a massive example in recent history that they are not.

No. 2473287

>>2473281
People have been crying about recessions for decades and yet history and math shows if you invested during said recessions you would be up significantly over time. Which I did in fact do and that makes it extra funny that you keep telling me it's impossible

No. 2473289

>>2473287
>I'm a young sheltered privileged dipshit who believes in investing memes taught to me by privileged boomers who are a big reason why the global economy is about to tank

No. 2473295

>>2473285
Here anon, this will heal you

No. 2473298

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>>2473289
Here's one of my accounts by the way, 0 of this came from mommy and daddy bc my parents are poorfags who were in debt my whole life. please tell me more about how to invest my money. I love to take financial advice from people who think $5 is an unreasonable amount of money to buy a stock with(no1currs)

No. 2473330

>>2473298
Wow, I really believe you, stranger on the internet with a random image! I'm just going to ignore my basic common sense, knowledge of history, and lived experience and take the $5 I would have spent on avocado toast so I can be just like you!

No. 2473332

i hope all 77 million trump supporters try another insurrection and get violently murdered, very soon. retarded ass cunts(a-logging)

No. 2473353

>>2473332
Does this count as alogging? Because same tbh. I don't want to say anything specific anywhere, since the JFK files wrongfully served as confirmation bias that governments do spy on the people in their country, but I wouldn't shed a tear of a handful of them died during a second attempt. Like, shit, go for it lil guys! Show them who's boss and have it blow up in your face!

No. 2473371

>>2473233
>I graduated in 2009
Wtfff?? I started preschool in 2009…How many anons are old people like you? I always thought everyone here was 18-20 like me(baiting)

No. 2473372

>>2473330
If your lived experience has given you a net worth of $5, what good is your lived experience? Why should anybody take your advice? You're a 300lb woman trying to tell everyone else how to lose weight.

No. 2473373

>>2473371
All of the smart, wise anons are oldfags

No. 2473415

>>2473372
I'm so sorry, where are you getting that someone has a net worth of only $5 because they don't want to dump gasoline on their limited resources and light a match because stupid, out of touch strangers on the internet are telling people to buy stocks when the president of the richest country on the planet just said fuck the economy as you know it

No. 2473428

>>2473415
They seem to be struggling whether it's $5 or $500, so the point remains, why take their advice? Do you take financial advice from struggling people? Do you take diet advice from fat people? If you do, you should stop immediately

No. 2473439

Can old people actually get off this thread and stop talking about politics? Boomers literally fucked up our economy. I fucking hate seeing old people talk about economics at all, I despise millenials, I despise boomers, you all fucked us over. You all voted for bush and Reagan who fucked us over and made student tuition much worse and only removed grants to fuck around with Berkley protesters. Fuck off. I hate old people so fucking much, get your demented brains out of the gutter and go back to your desk office job that you got from your shitty parents.(You must be over the age of 18 to post here.)

No. 2473442

>>2473439
>Stop talking about politics in the thread specific to American politics
Uh you seem to have forgotten where you are anon lol

No. 2473447

>>2473439
this whole thread is plagued nonna, there is no hope.

No. 2473449

>>2473371
>>2473439
Can newfags be any less obnoxious? Go back to TikTok jfc

No. 2473451

>>2473439
Millennials didn't vote for Reagan lol. Very few voted for Bush
>>2473330
>knowledge of history
Yeah, and people also said the economy was destroyed in:
-the 20s
-the 40s
-the 80s
-the 90s
-2008
-2020
Yet somehow the economy keeps being fine. Hmm. It's like there's a pattern, but I'm not sure what it is.

No. 2473455

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No. 2473462

>>2473442
If you are over 35, you have no idea what modernity is like unless you're constantly watching news. Most people over 35 are focused with their families/kids, what insight could they possibly have? You haven't been in college in like, what? 15 years? Your education is outdated, you are illiterate in technology, most of you only had your degrees/careers because it wasn't oversaturated at the time, it was way easier for all of you, yet half of them have the gall to act complicit with what's happening, because most of them genuinely have no comprehension of modernity.

No. 2473467

>>2473462
Ntayrt, and I’m a zoomer. You seem like a sperg. Stop shitting up this thread because you can’t fathom that anons are older than you. Thank god for that. Screens have destroyed our generation.

No. 2473470

>>2473462
Ok this is an embarrassing spergout, as they tend to be. You asked anons to stop talking about politics in the thread dedicated to American political conversation; I simply reminded you that that’s what this thread is for. If you don’t like reading about politics I suggest you redirect your traffic to one of the other hundreds of threads that lolcow has to offer, anon.

No. 2473472

>>2473470
No, I asked old people to stop putting themselves into politics. Only old people would be upset with what I am saying.

No. 2473476

>>2473428
"do you take political opinions from people who only make money from investing?" is number 3.

No. 2473478

>>2473472
I’m 22 years old, and actually no that’s not what your post says in any part of that OP or your second paragraph. I also quoted the exact part I responded to, which verbatim says:
>Can old people actually get off this thread and stop talking about politics?
where you literally ask anons to stop talking about politics in this thread..

No. 2473480

>>2473478
Yes, old people, can you read? 22 is old btw lol(you need to be 18 to post here)

No. 2473484

>>2473480
But that’s not asking seniors to stop inserting themselves into politics? That’s asking anons you consider to be old to stop talking about politics in the Amerifags thread

No. 2473489

>>2473480
>22 is old btw lol
You're going to kill yourself when you get the faintest nasolabial folds kek

No. 2473490

>>2473479
Saying that the sperg graduated college is generous. Considering she thinks 22 is old, she’s probably only graduated high school at most kek.

No. 2473493

>>2473451
there was literally no reason to implement regressive economic policies with no safety net or plan in a widespread cost of living crisis. a lot of us are going to be fucked. also, you conveniently left the 1930s off your list lol. if you won’t feel the increase in cost of everyday items, good for you? tariffs are called a regressive tax because lower income people will bear the brunt of the increases. not all of us will just be okay because the economy has recovered from periods like this in the past.

No. 2473501

>>2473462
I will always openly and shamelessly hate people who don't remember 9/11 because they're weren't born or cognizant, it might not be your fault that you're so goddamn stupid and brain broken but jfc even when millennials were being demonized by the world we were not this fucking aggressively stupid and unwilling to acknowledge opinions and perspectives from older generations. It's actually insane how confidently wrong an entire generation who doesn't even understand the concept of life without 24/7 tech in their face can be.

No. 2473502

>>2473472
Your definition of old is a little concerning… But I am curious; what topics would be better here, in the Amerifag Thread? I am open to changing topics if you came with ideas? Anything else I could possibly suggest has its own dedicated thread, and our country is in a bit of a weird position.

No. 2473562

>>2473501
They all have severe brain damage from tiktok and eating tide pods. It's honestly really sad.

No. 2473571

>>2473502
She wants the topic to be about her and how smart and educated she is and how prescient and knowledgeable she is about global affairs. But instead of licking her ass, anons have simply been telling her she's wrong all day. That's all this little tantrum is about.

No. 2473573

>>2473562
>eating tide pods
You actually fell for that one?

No. 2473578

>>2473462
>ITT sheltered apolitical alphafag bankrolled by their parents takes a break from cancertok brainrot to bait for outrage and attention that they don't get at home

No. 2473603

>>2473501
Ntayrt but most people werent alive when 911 happened. I was born in 2006 and I only learned what 911 was when I was 14. I know that its when the Iraqis flew planes into skyscrapers in NYC but its not like Im gonna sit down and study something that happened more then 2 decades ago. Sorry that your old but most people nowadays dont care about 911 because its not important in the grand scheme of things. Its not fair that you expect us to all be historians or something(baiting)

No. 2473608

>>2473067
Same, nona
>>2473061
>not many are gonna make it off the lawn unbroken
Okay, fair.
>>2473072
Wooden eggs sound lovely. Have they got patterns and decoration carved into them, too?

No. 2473611

>its not like Im gonna sit down and study something that happened more then 2 decades ago
Yeah we can tell

No. 2473617

>>2473573
NTA but what do you mean anon fell for it? There were some zoomers who damaged their esophaguses and at least one kid who died, all from eating tide pods.

No. 2473626

>>2469935
Disgusting idiot.

No. 2473651

>>2473298
NTA but what did you invest in? what is your daily income?

No. 2473654

>>2470761
This. There were literally videos circulating about ballot boxes being unlocked and one in flames and people just shrugged. At least trump is fucking over the trannies though. I just know harris would have been a handmaiden even though i did vote for her.

No. 2473655

>>2473451
>>2473451
america really hasn't ever recovered since the housing crash in 2008 kek

No. 2473656

>>2469358
They’re probably hating vancy wancy more after the signal chat leak lmao

No. 2473678

Kinda crazy how the economy is getting super fucked but then people are still going to be out here going to Target, buying their lil Starbucks, getting their nails done, etc all that shit. Like I find it amazing how many people out here in America are so blissfully unaware of everything and the world itself.

No. 2473679

>>2473678
What are they supposed to do, then? Hunker down like the nukes are coming?

No. 2473681

>>2473678
Were still very much 1st world.

No. 2473683

>>2473679
Be a little smarter with money. Start saving if you aren't already, treat yourself reasonably. What else?
>>2473681
Many other countries would disagree.

No. 2473685

>>2473678
No shit, people still need to do their grocery shopping. Not everyone can be a NEET doomposter freeloading off their parents.

No. 2473687

>>2473683
You sound out of touch with reality, genuinely.

No. 2473688

>>2473685
Not a NEET so I can say if you actually grocery shop at fucking Target compared to literally any other grocery store you aren't good with money to begin with.

No. 2473689

>>2473678
>The economy is fucked so you shouldn’t buy yourself a black tea even if you can afford it and live comfortably
Don’t care, wont pretend to

No. 2473690

>>2473683
I don't want to defend people shopping groceries at Target but you literally don't know strangers financial habits. Maybe they can afford it today. Maybe they're already saving. You can only focus on yourself during these times

No. 2473693

>>2473683
>>2473678
>treat yourself reasonably
…everything you listed is reasonable.
>Many other countries would disagree
And they'd be wrong.

No. 2473696

>>2473688
When you live in a rural town, you can’t pick and choose where you shop. I lived in a tiny rural Midwest town for years where I had to do all my shopping at Walmart because that’s all there was. Now I live in a very expensive city and make well under the median income here, and yet I still live comfortably and buy coffee regularly kek. I still have tens of thousands of dollars saved already. I’m able to save so much because I spend less on other things, like rent (I have a roommate). You’re not in a position to tell other anons spend or save their money because you have no idea about what their lifestyle is actually like and it just comes across as fear-mongering.

No. 2473703

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America is in a eternal loop of “Nooo save your money we are poor and the market is run by FEAR” and “Yesss invest every single penny because the stock market is booming”

No. 2473757

>>2473608
>Wooden eggs sound lovely. Have they got patterns and decoration carved into them, too?
Some do! Those ones were for display though. (We also have blown-out decorated eggshells, like a lot of Eastern Euro families /immigrants.) Some of the simple ones my grandfather made and sanded, and then my grandmother and aunts painted them solid pastel colors. Those are the ones we'd use for games. I love how smooth and perfect they are.

No. 2473765

>>2473678
might as well get what you want now before businesses and companies start raising prices and then when the counter tariffs kick in
when trump got in companies who rely on imported parts bought extra a couple of months ago in prep for this too
americans really fucked themselves kekk

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I’m so glad to have such an intellectual titan for a president.

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Fuuuuuck do you think Farmers Markets are going to be expensive now too? I was planning on going to the one in my city this weekend but I don't feel like paying $50 for stuff that would've been $20 last year.

No. 2473856

>>2473332
I’m sorry, but this person should be banned. This some childish bullshit, you can’t go around killing everyone you disagree with. >>2473683
Oh fuck off, you have a roof over your head and food and stability. So sick of these woke spoiled brats. Yes.. that’s what you are.(infighting/minimodding)

No. 2473871

>>2473093
this post puts it into perspective for me, just a little…trump wants to recreate a serf class. he wants a large portion of americans working in sweatshops, too tired and depressed (even more so than usual) to pay attention to the evil actions of their masters. and he wants them stupid and biblethumping too (this is why so much power is being given to the states…the southern us is going to be a fucking brain-drained wasteland in a decade)

No. 2473878

>>2473871
Oh and unlike getting young people into government debt is any better? With bullshit degrees that don’t land viable opportunities is better? My grandparents worked factory jobs and moved up in the company that’s how it was.

No. 2473883

>>2473878
your bait is boring dude nobody thinks you're actually a boomer(bait)

No. 2473884

>>2473883
No… I’m a millennial, who has lived long enough and had enough conversations with people of many generations.

No. 2473887

>>2473678
how is the economy getting super fucked? i get the stock market's crashing but from what i've learned
>stock market =/= wider economy
>most average people don't even own stocks
is it just the tariffs potentially making stuff more expensive if it's coming from out of the country?

No. 2473889

This thread should be nuked from orbit

No. 2473893

>>2473093
there’s a cost of living crisis throughout the entire country, retard. that’s why a horde of speds voted for orange man. i understand there MIGHT be long term benefits, maybe, if corporations grow souls and decide to re-shore out of the goodness of their hearts, but until then i hope you can educate yourself on the many reasons this is a terrible idea.

No. 2473894

>>2473889
just hide it, at least it's not super spammed like the luigi threads.

No. 2473900

Lots of anons mad this thread isn't just trump hate #2 like you guys don't already have a thread.

No. 2473901

>>2473130
Yes, strongly recommend gold and precious metals.

No. 2473903

>>2473900
his policies are unpopular and are costing average americans money? sorry you have to be confronted by people who don’t live in the conservative bubble and won’t worship dear leader.

No. 2473906

>>2473900
>We can't talk about the american president in the american thread
Lol

No. 2473961

>>2473900
Cope, seethe, dilate MAGAtard.

>>2473889
Does mommy know you're accessing this website, snowflake?

>>2473787
North Korea is mind-controlling him lol.(infighting)

No. 2473965

>>2473093
factories arent coming back to america nonna
long term, companies are just gonna raise prices and hope the next president reverses this shit because no one is gonna spend like $50+ billion building a new plant on the basis of a tariff that could change tomorrow because it's all based on this retard's whims.
there's just gonna be stagflation and rising costs because of this scrote
And if the stagflation is bad enough, companies with large international sale MIGHT just leave america and manufacture their shit in the cheapest most stable country and eat the tariff rather than dealing with america's bullshit

No. 2473969

>lesotho
>cambodia
>myanmar
>sri lanka
why the hell are these the countries with the highest tariffs? does trump or anyone in doge know what lesotho is? idk whether to kek or to cry

No. 2473972

>>2473887
Tiktok and the news said so, so it must be true

No. 2473974

>>2473965
it’s genuinely funny that the magats think that manufacturing returning to america is a viable option. american moids are so lazy they won’t even get off their asses to go to school and get cushy lazy jobs anymore, they don’t want factory jobs. of course, a lot of manufacturing is automated at this point, which also renders the ‘muh american jobs’ thing moot. there are tons of materials that we can’t get or make in america, so companies will still have to pay the tariffs on them even if they do decide to move their production back here. i’m not having a knee jerk reaction to the tariffs just because trump came up with them, and i don’t buy cheap chinese clothes/goods made with slave labor, it’s just inevitable that most of what we buy can’t be replaced with 100% american alternatives. it would have been less bad if the trump admin put other measures in place to encourage american production before raising the prices on almost everything we buy.

also… the maga arguments don’t even make sense. some are saying it’s a negotiating tactic, while others like the low iqs in this thread think it’s a long con to bring manufacturing back to the usa? they can’t settle on a spin. if it’s just for negotiations, why did he say he wants to get rid of income tax and replace the irs with an ‘external revenue service’? if it’s a long con and we’re bringing jobs back to america, where is the legislation to support that? he sunk the chips act, i don’t believe he’s thinking long term viability.

he campaigned on lowering costs. now he’s enacting policies that will raise prices on americans almost immediately and you want us to suck it up and ‘take the pain’ for a little while so the anti-globalists can pretend that isolationism works? how’s that working out for the uk, by the way? how is this fair at all? why should i take any maga voter seriously when they threw a years-long bitch fit about the economy until daddy trump told them to shut up and deal with it?

No. 2473980

>>2473974
I voted for Harris and I support the tariffs. Not everyone that disagrees with you is a "magat" kek. This Us vs Them mentality is so tired and immature.
>>2473871
>People that work in factories are depressed serfs
I can tell that you've never met anyone that works in a factory lol

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>>2473980
ayrt- okay then you’re not a magat, you’re just hopelessly naive about the potential benefits of trump’s sundowning, i guess. sorry i don’t really want to be buddy-buddy with people who voted for a recession (and on a personal level, to cut education funding the year i’m applying to (extremely necessary for my career) grad school) lol.

picrel, enjoy the tariffs though!

No. 2473984

>>2473969
Could it be that Musk or his dad have a bone to pick with Lesotho kek. Precious gem mining rights perhaps?
>The mining industry of Lesotho is mostly concentrated on diamond mining and as such the mining sector in the country has not played any significant role in furthering its economy. Apart from diamonds, the country's main mineral resources have been identified as base metals, clays, dimension stone, sand, gravel and uranium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_industry_of_Lesotho

>>2473974
Nobody will man American garment sweatshops, so that means more imported labour. Just what MAGAtards wanted!

>>2473980
What is your knowledge of economics btw? I have a degree in Economics and can tell you right away that Trumpnomics is going to depress US growth by tanking the consumer sentiment alone.

>>2473982
> i don’t really want to be buddy-buddy with people who voted for a recession
Nah, you should embrace it. It's a perfect opportunity to revel in your sadistic streak, making jabs at them and tearing their belief system drip-drip style.

No. 2473986

>>2473982
You chose to go into grad school in this economy, that's not my fault. You're the one that decided to do that, not me. Making a poor choice doesn't give you the right to be rude and childish.
>>2473984
>She only has one degree in economics
Yeah, let's all trust the anonymous poster on lolcow that says she has a bachelors degree. Come back when you can post a picture of your masters.

No. 2473988

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This is the future you chose kek.
>The Yale Budget Lab says they push the effective tariff rate to 22.5pc, amounting to an immediate tax rise of well over $700bn (£534bn) on US consumers and firms. This is a contractionary macroeconomic shock of 2.3pc of GDP, even before taking into account reprisals, and ignoring the carnage in the industrial supply chain.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/03/trump-unleashed-havoc-on-world-britain-will-not-be-spared/

No. 2473989

>>2473986
Well yeah if she doesn't go to grad school how else will she afford food and housing in our fucked economy? Lul

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>>2473986
>You chose to go into grad school in this economy, that's not my fault. You're the one that decided to do that, not me.
Not my fault you're too dumb for school.

No. 2473992

>>2473986
people like you are so pathetic, this is crabs-in-buckets shit. how dare i want something better for myself! how dare a POOR go to college to have a shot at a better life! i guess i’ll just get one of those american sweatshop jobs you’re shilling instead of trying to help my community in a field i’m passionate about and could make good money in. you know, once the manufacturers finally come back to america… should be any day now…

No. 2473995

>>2473989
It's almost like working class people should have an option to work for fair wages in industrial settings… or in manufacturing… it's almost like America did have those options in the past… like when there were factories… no, no, everyone in this country must simply get their Masters degree, then everything will be solved. Then we'll all be able to afford mansions and maids.

>>2473991
I already have my degrees. Not everyone that disagrees with you is your imagined stereotype of "uneducated southern hick." You're the one crying on the internet about not being able to go to grad school, don't project the chip onto my shoulder.

>>2473992
You have no idea what working in a factory is like nor any idea what working in a sweatshop is like.

No. 2473996

>>2473986
samefag but you said you didn’t vote for trump so i wasn’t even talking about you in the first place kek. you’re just jumping in front of bullets to catch strays for no reason. i’m off to bed now but i hope you enjoy that ~$3,800 hike on spending caused by trump’s retarded tariffs and the 60% chance of a recession! (source: yale budget lab, jp morgan, basically any other credible economic reporting outlet)

No. 2473998

>>2473996
That's not what samefag means. If you wanna bait on here at least learn the terminology.

No. 2474001

>>2473995
i don’t want a mansion or a maid, i want a livable wage in a career field i love that i can continue doing if i become disabled or can’t be physically active in old age but still need income. but if you didn’t exaggerate, you wouldn’t have an argument. it’s insane that wanting to work in a professional field is somehow wrong if you’re not independently wealthy. i’m not even trying to go to an expensive, prestigious school. i have absolutely no help from my family and working to pay for school is nearly impossible in this day and age. your ideas are so backwards, like… the manufacturing jobs don’t exist right now, and when/if they come here in the next 5-10 years they’ll be automated and require skilled workers. i just want to make enough money to live comfortably, and do something i enjoy instead of menial physical labor… i really can’t believe you’re bitching me out for going to grad school as if it’s just something poor people do on a whim because we think we’ll get inordinately wealthy from it. that’s fucking laughable.

No. 2474011

>>2474001
>Working to pay for school is nearly impossible in this day and age
It really isn't. I worked throughout my undergrad and worked more throughout grad school. I didn't have help from family either. I made it.

>i just want to make enough money to live comfortably, and do something i enjoy instead of menial physical labor

Lots of people live comfortably without a masters degree.

>it’s insane that wanting to work in a professional field is somehow wrong if you’re not independently wealthy.

Nobody said it was wrong. What's wrong is thinking that you somehow deserve to go to graduate school just because you want to. If you want to go to graduate school, then you need to either have the money or be ready to get a loan. You don't deserve to have things handed to you on the basis of desire, nobody does. If you don't have the money for it, and you can't get a loan, then you don't get to go to grad school. That's that.

Lots of people don't get to go to grad school. Lots of people have to take a long break between their bachelors and their masters to work and save money. You have to work to get the things you want in life. This whole "me me me" mentality and the self-centered attitude is holding a LOT of younger people back.

No. 2474026

>>2474011
i started my b.a. in 2021 without anticipating that americans would vote to gut education funding, so fuck me for not predicting the future i guess? i’ll figure it out but i’m fucking salty, and there’s no need for you to be a rude cunt because i bitched about trump voters choosing economic hardship for no reason- and once again, you said you weren’t a trump voter. you seem like a deeply unpleasant person lol. i’m happy to work for my career, that’s why i’m in school. but there’s no fucking way i can afford col increases + rent + tuition because i just can’t, even with a partner. i’ll be fine anyway, and work hard for what i want as best i can. fuck you and your bootstraps though.(infighting)

No. 2474040

>>2474026
>Fuck you and your bootstraps!
>I'm gonna pull up my bootstraps and work hard for what I want!
Lol

>there’s no need for you to be a rude cunt

You're the one that's been rude. You're the one that's been insulting and using rude names.

>you seem like a deeply unpleasant person lol

You're the one calling others "rude cunts" for daring to challenge your worldview.(infighting)

No. 2474050

>>2474040
kys troll(infighting)

No. 2474127

Unpopular opinion, I know, but Trump pulling out of international affairs and pushing everyone away — even our own allies — with his retarded isolationist policies and, by proxy, creating a large vacuum on the global stage for China to fill is bad actually.

No. 2474138

why is Utah so fucking expensive?

No. 2474147

>>2474138
Mormons trying to wring every last dollar out of the non-believers.

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No. 2474179

>>2473678
Credit card debt and irresponsible spending. My sister is like this. Recently got fired and is in 10k worth of debt yet always has her nails and hair done, always buying tiktok shit and is going to restaurants, always at concerts, etc. it also doesn't help the "benefit of the doubt" crowd are enablers

No. 2474182

>>2473887
>Most people don't own stocks so it doesn't matter if they go up or down
People who fail economics class should legally be shot if they state their opinions on the economy

No. 2474194

I can't believe I have to say this but if min wage jobs require you to complete competence assessments, self assessments that take hours, multiple interviews (including "vibe checks" from the 26 yr old co ed manager on weed), a drug test, and you can't have any felonies - someone who can't pass any of that shouldn't be running our fucking country

No. 2474206

The people saying 'hurr bring back manufacturing jobs we'll all work in factories and be comfortably middle class' piss me off to high heaven and back because they have so clearly never worked in any kind of manufacturing plant before. The cereal company Kelloggs has a plant where I used to live. Most employees only last 3-6 months because it's so bad. Seven days a week. 13 hour shifts sometimes. Minimum wage in that state is still $7.25. Yeah, those are the jobs Americans want! That will make our country great again! It worked 70+ years ago and it's not like anything has changed since then, right??
They promise you it'll pan out in the long term but the long term doesn't matter to the people who are living hand to mouth right now. If they crash and burn in the short term, there will BE no long term benefits for them. They are going to end up homeless and once you are living out of a car it is incredibly difficult to work your way back into housing. To get a job, you need an address, and to rent an address, property management requires proof of income. Catch-22-ass world we're living in but that's how you keep people desperately clinging to their shit-tier blue collar jobs because if they get fired then they know that's it for them.

No. 2474211

>>2474206
>Pretending like factories actually plan on hiring people
I would happily do 12 hour shifts 7 days a week for my states min wage. I applied for factory jobs within 15 miles of me, every.single.place. has ghosted me. I don't have any legal troubles, no social media presence, good work history, make profiles and complete their stupid assessment tests. For one factory I even had the manager as a reference and got ghosted. If the whole plan was to create more jobs they sure as hell didn't do shit

No. 2474218

>>2474206
Don't worry, those factories will never be built, because domestic demand will tank first. Can't export to the rest of the world either now that POTUS antagonised 99.9% of foreign countries.

>>2474211
>every.single.place. has ghosted me
They hire illegal immigrants over natives. Not that Trump is going to fix this ever - the opposite. Businesses want to exploit and underpay - notice how NOBODY in the admin is calling for tough penalties for hiring illegals. All according to keikaku.

>If the whole plan was to create more jobs they sure as hell didn't do shit

They will never do that, because it would drive up wages.

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>>2474138
Unfortunately word got out about it and a bajillion people moved in from out of state. Didn’t used to be this way.

No. 2474221

>>2474219
Was in Idaho for the population boom to. It was like this during COVID. A shit ton of people move in, drive up prices, complain about winter and "there's nothing to do and shopping, restaurants , etc sucks cause we drove out all the lower income workers" and they all left. Now the second biggest issue is that realtors, landlords, etc actually believe they're gonna come back and buy hideous trailers for 4 thousand month that's 2 hours away from a Walmart, so instead of selling it and pricing it so a local can have it they'll keep it on the market for years

No. 2474223

>>2474221
Lucky, I wish our Covid boom transplants left.

No. 2474225

>>2474211
Yeah, everyone starts that way and then they realize they only get two days off per month, on a weekend, so GL getting anything essential done at a bank, doctor's office, or government office on that single Saturday you have to yourself. You basically have to commit to being a company drone 99% of the time and your 1% of personal time is spent frantically trying to take care of necessities. People can get by like this in the short term but they all burn out eventually if they don't make it into management. But is it 'Making America Great Again'? Nope. People used to work these kind of jobs, justifying it all the while because they told themselves 'by my hard work and sacrifice, my kids will never have to do the same'. That is absolutely not true anymore.

You do save money working at a place like that, but it's because you have zero off time to spend any of it. So many people lost their jobs because they just… got sick at the wrong time. Not their fault, but expect absolutely no job security. I hope there's something else you can find to support yourself by, nona.

No. 2474231

>>2474225
I rather do that than fucking starve. It also doesn't help they fucked over food banks and food stamps so that's out of the question. Literally just a few months ago I could've easily got a job within a week

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>>2474206
I feel like America historically has experience with two environments of factory work. One is 1940s-70s unionized jobs where pay up the food chain was much more egalitarian and every other country had to buy finished goods from the US en masse because the rest of the industrialized world was bombed out in WWII. The other environment is Jurgis’ packinghouse. I can’t wrap my head around why anyone believes that they can get scenario 1 back by cutting unions, business regulations, and taxes on the ultra-wealthy. If that created more factory jobs at all it would just be creating Jungle jobs.

No. 2474245

>>2474127
I think this is a pretty common opinion and widely discussed among people who have involvement with international aid/diplomacy work. I’m sure the people running the Belt and Road Initiative are delighted at the chance to pick up the opportunities USAID and similar have been forced to abandon.

No. 2474291

>>2473887
Nonna…your 401k…

No. 2474308

>>2473887
Here you go anon
>Trump has fired more federal workers than the initial 2008 crisis. Places in Kansas don’t have enough jobs for the federal workers laid off, not even if they wanted to be gas station attendants and janitors.
>low income and middle class people have assistance interrupted. Right now it depends on state and office but it will likely be wide spread. That’s less money they can spend and more they will likely hoard. Lower class and middle class normally have to spend. Their money is what cycles quickly through the economy.
>401k and retirement plans are going to get shot in the foot. Meaning elders will have to continue working. Not opening up jobs for the youth.
>he is punishing doctors and academics leading to them considering fleeing to other counties. Similar to the brain drain from the Soviet Union and Germany. Etc.
>he is cutting education programs and grants meaning less skilled workers and a higher divide between the uppers and the normies.
>his push against DEI is extended to regular companies and is attempting to remove people of color and women especially those over 40.
>the crashing stock and unpredictability will drive lipstick sales into non existent which will crush company profits.
>illegal immigrants actually pay a good deal in taxes. 96.7 billion. That’s gone.
>he cut funding for farmers and food. Food is rotting in fields. Bees are being lost at 60% a season. It will only get worse.

No. 2474318

>>2474182
i'm not one of those people, i'm pretty sure a company whose stocks crash will either lay off workers or up prices to compensate but trumpers keep telling me it doesn't matter and i'm wrong and they're so confident that i get confused kek. it seems obvious but maybe i'm missing something, i try to consider both sides

>>2474308
thank you

No. 2474323

>>2474308
>I uncritically regurgitate every single thing the MSM vomits into my mouth, and never once consider they might be wrong(bait)

No. 2474327

>>2473996
Funny how all those "credible outlets" have been consistently wrong for nearly a decade, yet people still buy it. Amnesia?

No. 2474331

>>2474323
I like how you didn’t even refute anything she said or offer any counterpoints but you still take that smug faggoty tone. Get off the Fox News drip feed.

No. 2474332

>>2474327
The stakes are higher and actions taken are much different this time around. But go ahead and keep burying your head deep in the sand so you can huff the most untainted and pure source of copium known to man.

No. 2474333

>>2474323
Haven’t been reading msm. Been talking to social security lawyers, social workers, etc that have been impacted.
A lot of what trump has been doing hasn’t been reported or reported properly, so I’ve been taking the time to read and watch everything coming from the White House.

No. 2474339

>>2474308
You do realize trump has been president before and the economy actually did well? Take a chill pill.

No. 2474342

>>2474333
Why would you take economic advice from social workers? These are some of the dumbest people I have ever met. They're barely better than their nonfunctional clients.
You might as well source your info from mcdonalds employees.

No. 2474347

>>2474308
>Places in Kansas don’t have enough jobs for the federal workers laid off, not even if they wanted to be gas station attendants and janitors.
To make them sign up for military service, since WWIII is incoming.

>>2474327
Post examples of JP Morgan making wrong predictions. I'll be waiting.

No. 2474348

>>2474339
Repubs have a history of ruining the economy to trick retards like you into voting for them. They’ll purposefully drive up gas and food prices during democratic administrations so people are more likely to vote red next time and keep it that way. Those old fags all own massive amounts of stocks and keep deep connections with conglomerates in order to stay in power and be the ones to write laws of what the market can and can’t do. Its obvious now when retards like Trump and Musk are cutting funding and trying to dismantle laws that call for more regulation in business Congrats you fell for it

No. 2474351

>>2474339
Was he doing any of this shit in 2016-2020? No.
It's like saying that someone has baked a cake before, therefore you should eat their shit pie because the other cake wasn't too bad. They are still offering you a plate of shit. I guess your response to that is 'Yum, yum!'

No. 2474353

>>2474331
Why would anyone do that? People like anon don't want to hear facts and reason. They want to screech about how orange man is making the sky fall down, the TV told them so. You can't reason with that

No. 2474355

>>2474348
Expanding on what you said, my favorite trick they do is when they make tax cuts and similar things, but write into the legislation that the negative effects come into play AFTER their terms are over. As an example, when the "tax hike" part of one of Trump's tax laws was delayed so it happened during Biden's administration and everyone thought Biden was doing it. I have to respect the grift no matter how much I hate it.

No. 2474357

>>2474342
Not taking economic advice. I moved my investments months ago before anyone else. Cross verifying that the policies Trump is saying and signing are happening. Getting a better idea of local impacts in different areas and states, since Trump does a lot of grandstanding. I’m active in my own local community and outreach too and can already see impacts here. No need to make assumptions or be so aggressive. I ask social security lawyers about how social security payments and the office are going like if calls are 25 plus minutes holds. Etc. How else do you fact check something you hear?

No. 2474358

>>2474347
>2008 Financial Crisis - "Soft Landing" Prediction: In April 2008, JPMorgan analysts predicted a "soft landing" for the U.S. economy, suggesting that the housing market downturn and credit issues would not lead to a severe recession. They argued that Federal Reserve actions and economic resilience would cushion the blow. However, the S&P 500 declined nearly 50% from its peak, bottoming out in March 2009, as the global financial crisis unfolded—far from a soft landing.
>2021 Inflation Forecast: In 2021, JPMorgan forecasted mild inflation, aligning with the narrative that price increases would be transitory. Instead, inflation surged, reaching a 40-year high of 9.1% in the U.S. by June 2022, driven by supply chain disruptions, stimulus spending, and energy price shocks—proving their underestimation significantly off the mark.
>2023 Recession Prediction: JPMorgan predicted a U.S. recession in 2023, with some analysts citing a 60% probability due to tightening monetary policy and economic slowdown signals. However, the U.S. economy grew at 2.8% GDP in 2024 (well above their earlier 0.7% estimate for that year), avoiding recession and showcasing unexpected resilience.
>2011 Long-Term Capital Market Assumptions: In their 2011 Long-Term Capital Market Assumptions report, JPMorgan made predictions for asset class returns over a 10-15 year horizon. For instance, they projected U.S. large-cap equity returns (e.g., S&P 500) at around 7.75% annually. By 2016, the six-year annualized return was significantly lower (around 5-6%), missing the mark by over 1%—a notable error given compounding effects over time.
>2022 S&P 500 Mid-Year Rally: In June 2022, JPMorgan’s top stock analyst predicted a 7% gain for the S&P 500 in the second half of the week due to quarter-end rebalancing. Instead, the index fell by 4% that week(this is an imageboard/post proof)

No. 2474364

>>2474347
If you think jp morgan is always right, this tells me you're kinda dumb and this is your first time paying attention to the economy. Economists are the profession most notorious for being wrong all the time, lol

No. 2474365

Surprised they put tariffs on even South Korea, that’s like asking the family dog to contribute to taxes

No. 2474367

>>2474364
Kek, the term physics envy even originated as a criticism of economists because they’re so fucking wrong

No. 2474373

>>2474367
Don't be so mean anon. Economists actually predicted 28 of the last 3 recessions.

No. 2474384

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i love lookner he's such a hypertensive little freak. i desperately want him to get addicted to fruity flavored vapes for some reason i think that would be so fucking funny

No. 2474390

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>>2474219
Same with Florida. I’m so fucking tired of it, my small town is now riddled with strip malls and apartment complexes and torn down wildlife. As if prices weren’t already high and we weren’t already packed here

No. 2474393

>>2474390
Everybody wants to move to red states these days. My birth state, Texas, is the same. A lot of the anti lib laws they come up with are to deter all the libshits from moving from California and ruining the state.

No. 2474407

>>2474393
An absolute travesty what happened to my own childhood home in Texas. I remember how bad it got when the levis broke in Louisiana - what with our state's insistence nobody letters, folks from.there left shit like baby diapers and trash all over our otherwise clean town. Nightmarish.
Then before I left state (reluctantly) there was an uptick in people moving in from California anyway (seeing license plates) that came with an increase in trash and overall filth. I hate this shit. The town also became overrun with more churches, ERs, and banks - none of them had any traffic for some reason regardless of what time of day it was. The decreasing amount of wildlife and natural greenery was also depressing to see.

No. 2474409

>>2474393
i don't really know any liberals in Cali who are champing at the bit to move to TX, though? They'll move there/visit for jobs bc of the technology companies (who chose TX because of the tax breaks they receive). But it doesn't feel like there's much else to attract people. I say this as someone who's also from a much-derided red state (Alabama) because I've seen the same thing happen there. We're looked down upon as being states full of hateful, barely-literate, inbred conservatives. It's one of the reasons so many kids I knew growing up left the South permanently.

No. 2474431

>>2474409
NTA but I agree. It seems like the people most likely to uproot their lives for the sake of chasing a political meme are gonna be the most politically extreme ones, not the moderates.

No. 2474463

I’m glad the federal reserve is a thing. Even if they are kinda slow to act sometimes, I like to think of them as our one saving grace that will keep us from destroying ourselves.

No. 2474466

>>2474409
They already moved during COVID. Keeping shitlibs out of TX is such a funny concept. They're already there lmao. The idea of it being a red state is hilarious.

No. 2474470

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No. 2474479

>>2474463
The fed is literally what has destroyed this country. It's incredible how brainwashed people are.

No. 2474483

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No. 2474493

>>2474470
>>2474483
The thing I don't get about this is whole "don't trust journalists" shenanigans is, who SHOULD you trust then? Random tiktokers and podcast bros? You can't expect the general public to be well-informed about everything and at some point you're going to have to make up your mind on topics or issues based on the information relayed to you. I'm not saying just blindly believe everything MSM tells you but I'm genuinely curious as to how people believe in anything these days when everyone has an agenda and is trying to sell you something.

No. 2474499

>>2474493
Generally if the msm is saying something the opposite is true. it's not a perfect heuristic, but it works pretty well. You don't have to "trust" anybody, you just have to know who isn't trustworthy.

No. 2474500

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>>2474466
Conservatives are a bunch of fucking idiots. Those "hard working, red blooded, American blue color workers!" they love sucking the dicks of so much literally use to vote all blue because of unions. States that have heavy miner, oil field, etc towns use to be pretty blue and those old white men that were miners or welders their entire lives gen z conservatives that only ever worked at a gas station love to LARP as? Yeah they're heavy Democrats. Also pre-2000s military families use to vote blue too. Always funny how obsessed single, childless, sooner republicans who've never got their hands dirty in their life are sitting around jerking it to nuclear families with a hard working dad. Meanwhile those are blue

No. 2474502

>>2474493
Yourself.

No. 2474508

>>2473006
How is jacking up the price of raw materials gonna encourage manufacturing in the US? We can't manufacture ore deposits kek

No. 2474510

>>2474499
Honestly that just sounds like being contrarian. "I'm going to believe and think the opposite!" doesn't seem to be a good way to approach media literacy. They could easily manipulate you by always saying the opposite.
>>2474502
How do you trust yourself when you don't know shit? Where do you get your sources from? Do you fly to Ukraine to see with your own eyes what's happening in the war?

No. 2474511

>>2474510
I don't need to know anything about Ukraine or care at all. Neither do you. It's not real

No. 2474512

>>2474508
Why not? China can spin up thousands of factories in under a year but people act like it's somehow impossible here. Why?

No. 2474513

>>2474510
Yeah, I used to think that too. "They can't be wrong ALL the time!" Lol.

No. 2474516

>>2474510
The people who lack discernment at all are the ones saying "don't trust anybody" or "both sides bad". Not all of us are lazy and lacking a critical mind with a good sense of judgment, unwilling to challenge even our own prior beliefs. They know nothing so it's comfortable to believe only what's convenient or soothe themselves into thinking they're smarter than everyone by being completely untrusting of everything.

No. 2474517

>>2474512
Because ore deposits are not made in factories. They are part of the planet.

No. 2474518

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>>2474508
If only there was some kind of exemption to the tariffs for raw materials…

No. 2474519

>>2474517
You're aware we have ore deposits in North America, right?

No. 2474520

>>2474518
Ahh, so what about all this "b-b-but the bad working conditions and environmental impact of imported goods" BS you were saying before?

No. 2474521

>>2474510
>Honestly that just sounds like being contrarian. "I'm going to believe and think the opposite!" doesn't seem to be a good way to approach media literacy. They could easily manipulate you by always saying the opposite.
These are the types of people who get their savings drained by twitter grifters, crypto scammers, and alternative health gurus, if you were ever wondering.

No. 2474526

Anyway I just got home from work where I was doubling the price of screws, nails, welding metals, motor oil, fertilizer, etc. Sure hope we can start manufacturing that shit tomorrow cuz if we can't it's gonna be really expensive to build those factories tat we're tooootally gonna start building lmao

No. 2474529

>>2474511
Ukraine was obviously just an example. How do you know anything about current events, including US politics, economics, health and science etc. when you yourself are not an expert on these topics? Obviously the general public has to get their sources from somewhere.
>>2474513
Do you honestly believe MSM is lying to you 100% of the time? If someone gets shot and the news reports it, do you think it's a paid actor?

No. 2474533

>>2474510
Are you the person who thinks jp morgan is always right and can't possibly be wrong? Msm shills are literally the worst. Proven wrong constantly and they keep coming back for more embarrassment. "Sure, I was laughably wrong the last ten times, but THIS time, it's different!" Imagine being like this in 2025. Grim.
>>2474520
Oh, so you never wanted to have an argument based on facts, you just want to spit out little one liners until you feel good? Got it.(baiting)

No. 2474534

>>2474529
you know he probably does, yeah

No. 2474537

>>2474529
I read history, books, multiple sources, etc
If you think the news is the only source of information that's kind of sad

No. 2474539

>>2474529
They don't know anything nor do they want to exert the mental power it takes to understand the nuances of these issues. Black and white thinking and all that. It's easier for them to deny it completely.

No. 2474540

>>2474533
All you want to do is move goalposts. You don't care about facts, all you care about is keeping up your delusional feelings of superiority from having "secret knowledge." It's basic schizo behavior. You're all the same.(infighting)

No. 2474542

>>2474537
Pray tell, what are these sources and history books you refer to? You could have just as easily left it at "trust me bro" and wasted less words.

No. 2474543

>>2474539
You think regurgitating msm talking points gives you "nuance"? This is so embarrassing. You realize the majority of people don't listen to the news anymore, either, right? It's not some fringe position. We aren't living in the 00s anymore.

No. 2474544

>>2474537
History and books written in the past don't inform you on CURRENT events. Sure you can make yourself more educated by reading depending on the books you read, but you can't know what's currently happening in the world if you don't read or watch the news? And books often use journalists and news articles as their sources when they talk about past events so it would be highly dependent on the author.

No. 2474545

>>2474542
"multiple sources" you know it's twitter and joe rogan kek

No. 2474549

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>>2474512
nta, there’s a few potential benefits to autocracies and that can be one of them. If you don’t have to answer to anyone, done have to compromise with anyone, and can bulldoze anyone who’s in your way, you can get big things done fast. The problem comes when the few people doing the bulldozing make huge bad decisions (Great Leap Forward) or outright corrupt decisions to pad them and their friends’ pockets at the expense of everyone they control. This inevitably happens when you give a small group of people enormous power, which is why people will tell you that democracy is a good thing even if it makes change take longer.

No. 2474552

>>2474544
History is everything, because history repeats itself. Without that context, you're just blindly believing a narrative.

No. 2474553

>>2474543
Wrong anon. I'm not going by "MSM sources" or whatever, because instead of dismissing everything outright I know how to discern the info i'm given instead of taking it at point blank. "the majority of people" are content going off of vibes and tiktok or something their co-worker's cousin said offhand.

No. 2474554

>>2474493
High media literacy is needed. You have to compare national, international, and local papers. Look for ones that contain photos and videos and always see if you can find multiple angles to confirm you’re getting a better picture. Getting first hand opinions from people involved or familiar that you know personally is great too, and if you don’t know anyone it encourages you to branch out socially. When it comes to law and government I always suggest tuning into the hearings and reading the bills yourself. Both sides have a tendency to exaggerate or downplay a bill when it helps them. Reading a bill first helps you form your own opinions, if you need help understanding look for lawyers that are explaining it in common jargon. When looking at any article identify the W’s first.
>who
>what
>where
>why
>when
>how
If you can’t find those. The article is incomplete. Also keep in mind disingenuous techniques like the passive voice. “Woman dies after bus accident” Vs “woman dies after man pushes her in front of bus.” Etc
Definitely don’t recommend podcasts. I’ve yet to find one that holds up to fact checking.

No. 2474555

>>2474540
I've posted a lot of facts. For example, earlier when you smugly asked for evidence that jp morgan is wrong and I posted a bunch of evidence and you ignored all of it.

No. 2474560

>>2474554
This a million times. Also, it's not that hard to search up reliability ratings for news sites and see whether their reporting is mostly factual or laced with emotional arguments. Biases aren't always indicative of untruths but they are something to consider because they color viewpoints in certain ways that may cloud rational thinking.

No. 2474562

>>2474553
That's amazing that you collect all that info yet everything you say is a copypaste of the msm narrative that's blasted everywhere with all the same talking points that are wrong in the same ways. What an amazing coincidence.

No. 2474564

>>2474552
Okay, nobody is saying history isn't relevant. I'm saying that you can't read a history book to know 1:1 what is happening in modern day America?
>>2474554
Thank you for giving a genuine answer instead of just schizoposting. I think bills and politics are fairly easy to get a nuanced opinion on when you read from multiple sources and then read the bill itself on the .gov website but health and science articles are harder for me to make a decision on since the research involved in them often goes over my head. In these cases I have no choice but to "trust experts" with a critical eye because I myself can't really interpret scientific articles at a high level. That's why I don't quite understand people who say "trust yourself" kek, not everyone is a doctor or scientist with a PHD in their field.

No. 2474567

>>2474554
It's good to look at opposition news sources too. Read news from Russia or Iran and get their perspective. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle of what two sides are saying. The problem with a lot of foreign media is that it's also funded by the US to push US interests and maintain global dominance.

No. 2474572

>>2474562
So saying not to take what you read as is, which is inherently common sense and what I assume is your main message somewhere in that schizobabble.. is also an MSM sentiment? How ironic.

No. 2474573

>>2474564
>I'm saying that you can't read a history book to know 1:1 what is happening in modern day America?
You could understand modern America very well from only reading books that are 10+ years old. Everything that's happening has happened somewhere before, or is happening because of events that occurred decades ago. Most of the up to the minute discourse is just a distraction anyway. A lot of what is happening was predicted decades ago.

No. 2474577

>>2474573
>You could understand modern America very well from only reading books that are 10+ years old.
What books? And what predictions have come true?

No. 2474579

>>2474567
As long as you're not falling into the trap of trusting state media, which is just another propaganda fed to you from a different angle. People have the habit of thinking "this western news is full of lies, so the opposing view from "enemy" countries must be the actual truth" which is part of tankie philosophy anyway, and they can't be trusted on anything kek.

No. 2474583

>>2474573
It's true that history repeats itself, but the conditions influencing history then are not the same things influencing situations now so the outcomes will be different even if people use the same dumb reasoning.

No. 2474596

>>2474579
Yeah, that's why i say read both and come to the middle. You assume both sides are biased but theres some grain of truth to each account. By comparing them, it gives you a better picture of the situation.
>>2474577
Manufacturing Consent and anything by Thomas Sowell are a good start. Sowell correctly predicted a lot of what's going on with social justice and economics. Ron Paul is also somebody who is right a lot. Warren Buffet also has a strong track record of being correct. Nobody is always correct.

No. 2474675

if the trump cocksuckers in this thread are right, we’ll be pleasantly surprised. all the information available says they’re wrong and mentally challenged though(baiting)

No. 2474694

>>2474675
As long as shit continues to get cheaper, I am satisfied!(baiting)

No. 2474697

>>2474694
you must be frothing at the mouth rn then

No. 2474709

>>2474694
The only scenario of 'shit getting cheaper' is when a recession should force suppliers to discount-sell everything to stay afloat. In that case you're already in deep shit and won't be in the mood to appreciate the depreciation.

No. 2474713

>>2474697
Wym nona
>>2474709
But stuff already has gotten cheaper? Including gas and overall travel prices for what seems to be for the first time since covid

No. 2474718

>>2474713
was wondering why my normal flight is up $150 3 months in advance

No. 2474724

>>2474713
The US is big so it's hard to really argue, but prices are still high in my city and I'm in a state that produces its own agriculture and oil.

No. 2474726

>>2474500
Texan here. The school vouchers bullshit that’s ongoing might be the one thing that causes rural voters to wake the fuck up that they’re being bled dry by West Texas oil tycoons in the name of MAGA and Jesus.

No. 2474732

>>2474675
>if the trump cocksuckers in this thread are right, we’ll be pleasantly surprised. all the information available says they’re wrong and mentally challenged though
You'll never get the satisfaction of 'I told you so' because they care more about following their leader than material reality, though. In this very thread you can see 'it's to get better deals', 'but slave labor in cambodia is bad it'd be better to manufacture stateside', 'tariffs will revitalize american industry', 'consuming less is a virtue', etc. It's all post-hoc rationalization. When the global economy shits the bed they'll take their cues from their outlet of choice to explain why it's a good thing.

No. 2474739

>>2474732
I think your problem is you think that anyone who doesn't vote for democrats is evil and consider yourself angelic just because you voted in one election.
We got fucked under democrats and we're going to get fucked harder under republicans, but we're still getting fucked regardless.

No. 2474745

>>2474739
nayrt, i don't consider myself a democrat and i didn't vote but i still think you're wrong bc basic common sense. things would not have crashed this hard under harris/walz. what now?

No. 2474761

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trumpies are so evil and retarded

No. 2474763

>>2474745
>things would not have crashed this hard under harris/walz. what now?
Correct, but they'd sooner die than admit that. The reaches and copium will continue. I hope they have the day they voted for.

No. 2474769

>>2474761
People who say this are either sheltered from consequences or are utter doomers who've given up hope in life. They talk a big game, thumping their thesaurus and stroking their galaxy brains to full climax at the expense of everyone around them. They must feel so proud for impressing nobodies on the internet with how deep and unbothered they are.

No. 2474770

>>2474219
Grew up here and I'm completely fucked out of a house now. Yay…

No. 2474772

>>2474739
>We got fucked under democrats and we're going to get fucked harder under republicans
Realistically there's only so much politicians can do - however, that being said the Americans who thought it would be a great idea to put the oligarchs who don't give a shit if you and your family starve in the street during a time when a war is about it start, recession is coming up and we literally just got out of a fucking pandemic, they're all fucking retarded. Kamala and Bernie got laughed at because they wanted us to have affordable education and healthcare and living wages and job security and affordable housing. This is the only election in history where people were hoping the candidate they voted for doesn't actually do what they said they were gonna do, the only time in history that a candidate can get bashed for making proposals to be help the working class and people are still trying to convince us MAGA isn't a cult

No. 2474774

>>2474761
r/im14andthisisdeep

No. 2474775

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>>2474761
Kiwifags are also saying basically this. The cope has moved from "Trump is based and will fix everything" to "the system can't be fixed so let's violently tear it town to own everybody I hate"

No. 2474778

>>2474775
It's going to tear down them and everyone they love, too. Accelerationist bumfucks, the lot of them.

No. 2474783

>>2474775
they're just broke scrubs with zero dollars to their name.

No. 2474784

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My biggest problem with Democrats is that we need to stop bailing out conservatives and their failures. They voted for the candidate that wants to rid EBT, Medicaid, SSI, etc? Great, stop their benefits then. Give them what they voted for. Farmers voted for trump? Get rid of their farm grants then. Small business owners voted for trump? Great, get rid of their government welfare and then. Union workers voted for trump? Fine, get rid of their union pay and job security and better hope they're likable enough cause 90% of their attitudes would easily get themselves unemployed if it wasn't for unions. The minute you vote against yourself, you better be ready to eat every word you voted for

No. 2474786

>>2474739
well that’s quite an assumption to make based off a single post. republican-run states are consistently poorer and dumber and have higher concentrations of poverty, obesity, and illness, so i’m just judging the voters based on the material reality that they vote to screw themselves over year after year. i have plenty of issues with the left and dems and i don’t think any of our issues are getting fixed in my lifetime by any political party because most americans seem to have brain damage from covid or something. it would be great if we could move more towards the center instead of voting in far right history deniers who think tax cuts can solve anything, but ah well.

No. 2474788

>>2474772
BuT bOtH SidEs bAd, nona! Can't you see they're exactly the same without any nuance to their persons whatsoever? We shouldn't bother complaining or doing anything about it, not like that position isn't yet another psyop to let the bastards continue to run ramshod over us without any resistance whatsoever, there's no point in trying to change the system or electing people who want to change it, because nothing ever happens and nothing we do matters! Once you get political you become a cog in the machine with no objective other than to fuck over everyone for your own gain. So you should just let things run their course and let others make the decision for you, so much easier than fighting and trying to change it.

No. 2474821

>>2474675
Would you admit you're wrong, though? Trump was right about a bunch of stuff in his first term, but it seems everyone has already forgotten.

No. 2474827

People really seem to have totally forgotten the same stuff happened trumps first term. Here's a short list of stuff everyone said would destroy the economy/start a war, but nothing happened and Trump was right.

Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (2017)
The Warnings: Critics, including many economists and Democrats, argued that slashing corporate taxes from 35% to 21% and cutting individual rates would balloon the deficit, mostly benefit the rich, and fail to spark real economic growth.

What Happened: The economy did see a boost—GDP growth hit 2.9% in 2018, unemployment dropped to a 50-year low of 3.5% by late 2019, and wages grew, especially for lower-income workers. The deficit did rise (to about $1 trillion annually pre-COVID), but the apocalyptic economic collapse didn’t materialize. Businesses repatriated billions in overseas cash, though the "trickle-down" effect was debated—some studies showed the wealthy gained more, but job creation was undeniable.

Moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem (2018)
The Warnings: Pundits and foreign policy experts predicted this would ignite Middle East chaos, derail peace talks, and provoke widespread violence.

What Happened: Protests and clashes did occur, but the region didn’t descend into all-out war. The move solidified U.S.-Israel ties, and later, the Abraham Accords normalized relations between Israel and several Arab nations (UAE, Bahrain, etc.), suggesting the shift didn’t fatally destabilize diplomacy. Some argue it even forced a recalibration of regional alliances.

Deregulation Push
The Warnings: Environmentalists and progressives claimed rolling back Obama-era regulations—like on coal emissions or offshore drilling—would poison the planet and crash industries with unchecked greed.

What Happened: Energy production soared (U.S. became the world’s top oil producer by 2018), gas prices stayed low, and economic activity ticked up in sectors like manufacturing. Air quality didn’t nosedive—CO2 emissions even dropped slightly in 2019. Critics still point to long-term climate risks, but the immediate "disaster" didn’t hit.

Trade War with China (2018-2020)
The Warnings: Tariffs on Chinese goods were supposed to tank the U.S. economy, spike consumer prices, and alienate allies.

What Happened: Manufacturing jobs saw a modest uptick (about 400,000 added pre-COVID), and the trade deficit with China shrank slightly. Prices rose for some goods (e.g., electronics), but inflation stayed tame overall. The Phase One deal in 2020 got China to pledge more U.S. purchases, though enforcement was shaky. Farmers got hit hard but were bailed out with subsidies.

Pulling Out of the Iran Nuclear Deal (2018)
The Warnings: Experts said this would isolate the U.S., embolden Iran to go nuclear, and fracture alliances.

What Happened: Iran ramped up uranium enrichment, sure, but "maximum pressure" sanctions crippled their economy—oil exports fell from 2.5 million to under 300,000 barrels a day. No new wars broke out, and allies grumbled but stuck around. Israel and Gulf states quietly cheered the hard line.(learn2integrate)

No. 2474841

>>2474786
And yet people keep moving out of blue states to red states. Why do they do that?

No. 2474845

>>2474784
>so you think active duty military are freeloaders
Yes, because we already subsidize the shit out of their lifestyle more than we do any other group of hardworking citizens and yet they're all still on food stamps. I unironically think everyone else on food stamps is less pitiful

No. 2474846

>>2474732
Or maybe there's just a lot of reasons why the sky isn't falling down like you say? It's pretty bizarre that anons keep spreading misinformation and then when they get corrected for all of the different stuff they get wrong, they cry foul.
>"raw materials will be unaffordable!"
>but raw materials have tariff exceptions, and it's better to make them stateside anyway for several reasons
>"stop changing the story!!"
Like, there can't be multiple reasons for something? I truly don't know what some of you guys want.

No. 2474850

>>2474827
nothing ever happens final boss is here.

Newsflash ITS HAPPENING

No. 2474853

>>2474845
Oh I'm not for the image at all don't get me wrong. Republicans like to suck the militaries dicks, even if they were just a cook or something Republicans will bend over backwards to make it seem like the most noble thing someone can do and yet a lot of them still are getting paid low enough to meet the income qualifications for food stamps in the first place and it's not the "crackhead mom with 8 kids from different dads" they love painting

That being said - if they wanna get rid of government assistance, then we need to make the minimum wage in the US 3x rent or the income limit for Medicaid, which is usually like 40k a year or so. But Republicans don't want to do that because they actually think the poor can snap their fingers and make magic money appear as they take away programs meant to give the poor wiggle room so they can transition out of poverty

No. 2474855

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>>2474827
the tariffs from round one led to more net losses than economic gains, especially with regards to jobs (picrel, source: https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/en/099421212012251677/pdf/IDU0500ae4fa0848304bab089c9089e7cdc8970e.pdf). you even admit that farmers got fucked over and the industry had to be subsidized to save them LOL. this time there won’t be bailouts because the oligarchs want the land cheap.

the tax cuts for corps (tax cuts and jobs act) are expiring this year. this is why he’s imposing the tariffs (read: a regressive tax) on lower income consumers, so we foot the bill to make those cuts permanent instead of making the leeches contribute to our country. there will only be ‘tax cuts’ for the wealthiest, the rest of us get increases. he actually raised the national debt by 8 trillion last time and he’s trying to increase the debt ceiling by 5 trillion now, if you hadn’t heard. i guess the ‘budget hawks’ only care when it’s democrats doing things to help citizens instead of republicans bailing out their buddies.

no comment on the rest, i think the economics are more relevant to discuss itt.

you can say ‘trump was right about everything!’ all day if you bury your head in the sand and ignore about half of the information (and the fact that he coasted on obama’s economy/it takes more than four years to see the ripple effects of a president’s actions).

>>2474841
cost of living/ability to buy a house and more opportunities to work remotely? it’s not really a mystery LOL. it sure as hell isn’t because the schools, infrastructure, and culture are amazing. i love how enlightened you think you are, it’s hilarious that you just sit in the thread stroking trump off while actively leaving out any information that counters your spin.

No. 2474859

>>2474850
KEK exactly. i’ll say it again: if trump is indeed right about everything, i’ll be pleasantly surprised, but the nothing ever happens anon isn’t the only person who can read and understand information. there are just as many sound reasons that this plan is retarded. namely that forcing lower income americans to pay more for everyday items while permanently cutting taxes for wealthy leeches and prioritizing corporate welfare in a cost of living crisis (that TRUMP CAMPAIGNED ON FIXING ON DAY ONE) is just brain damage behavior.

No. 2474862

>>2474841
Because they're not liberal, and 9/10 times they rush back to their liberal state. Or in cases like North Idaho, you have conservatives that live on the Idaho side but go to the Washington side to work, get healthcare etc because they voted to ruin their own state. They like the cult mindset of MAGA but want to reap the benefits that the evil libtards they degrade give them

No. 2474864

>>2474859
Did you complain about any of this when Biden was printing trillions to give to his wealthy friends, increasing inflation and raising the cost of all basic goods? That had a bigger impact on prices than anything trump did his first term.

No. 2474871

>>2474855
I think that trumps policies are a mixed bag, but it's probably not going to be as bad as doomsayers say.

No. 2474876

>>2474784
i grew up poor and believe me when i say that poor people truly do not understand how disgusted conservatives are by them. they often believe they're superior to other low income people even when they live up to every negative stereotype there is about those who collect benefits. they think that the politicians they worship see them as hard working citizens who got dealt a bad hand when in reality they're viewed as nothing more than just another leech and will never be given the approval they so desperately crave

No. 2474878

>>2474864
source for biden ‘printing trillions’? lol, trump LITERALLY printed money and signed his name to the checks for pandemic relief. us economy had a pretty soft landing compared to the rest of the world post-covid, and inflation was going down (but is set to increase due to tariffs, which are inflationary by definition). i’m not a biden fan but you’re not going to scare anyone with unsourced fox news conspiracy theories. federal spending is not ‘waste fraud and abuse’ just because it doesn’t align with your priorities, bud.

No. 2474883

>>2474876
Almost all conservatives are unbearable morons who bite the hand that feeds. Even if they're not "poor", they're at least receiving help from their parents (who typically had 401k, military benefits or SSI), a lot of them have jobs that require the general population to have some sort of disposable income, and then when they vote to make it as hard as they possibly can to live comfortably, they're shocked when their shit tanks and what do they fall back on? Liberal policies. They love the idea of voting for trump because it makes them seem like a hard working hard ass who got everything they have fair and share, unlike the liberal pussies

"The only people on food stamps are the 2 liberals voting so the 8 other conservatives can stay on theirs"

No. 2474887

>>2474871
A giant rock could be launched at your head and retards like you wouldn't even duck. Please emigrate for both of our sakes

No. 2474888

>>2474859
I'm curious, is there anything you think Trump did right in his first term or is doing now? Was there anything you thought would go badly, but didn't?

No. 2474892

>>2474887
I feel like some of you actually want the economy to crash

No. 2474899

Sorry anons, idk where else to post this but my dad got approached by some crazy old white lady at a gas station and she told him "I'm so sorry we stole your land". He was so fucking confused and it was the funniest situation I've ever been in

No. 2474903

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>poor states vote to benefit off of unions, government assistance, housing help, free education and job training, farmer and business assistance
>Once the boomers in the poor states find stability, they vote conservative and brainwash everyone else into voting conservatives too so the younger generations cannot build themselves up like they did
How are Americans letting this happen? Jfc. We just freely let boomer conservatives act like the biggest hypocrites on the planet and no one's gonna do a damn thing about it?

No. 2474904

>>2474888
i guess he made animal abuse a felony the first time, that was nice of him. i don’t understand why you want me to take a neutral view of a man who sparked an insurrection and has double digit felonies. i don’t trust his economic sense because he’s a many-times-over failed businessman who rugpulled his own cult members with his cryptocoin. i don’t agree with slashing the government because it isn’t oversized. i don’t agree with gutting medical research funding because medical research is our ~crown jewel~. i don’t agree with ‘anti-dei’ measures because they’re being applied broadly and basic us history is ‘racial discrimination’ because it makes white people feel bad. ffs, they took a black medal of honor recipient off military websites and said he won a ‘dei award’ for helping his troop navigate vietnam while injured. he’s cancelling billion dollar deals that give food from local farmers to schoolchildren, letting food rot in ports because it’s going to foreigners who don’t deserve help, and destroying livelihoods of people who can’t work in the private sector because the private sector isn’t going to employ them to do the work they do. doge is costing more money than they’re ‘saving’ and trump has on his own course, what, 19 out of 74 days so far? how much taxpayer money is that adding up to, again? maybe you should be keeping up with the news better.

No. 2474908

>>2474892
At this point I don't even fucking care anymore

No. 2474910

>>2474892
We are literally watching it crash what do you mean "want to" it's literally happening right now.

No. 2474911

>>2474904
*golfed on his own course, oops.
also, re: his first term, i feel like so much of what he did was eclipsed by his piss poor pandemic response. i’m sure there are things that were shilled as the end times that ended up being okay, but you’re acting like nobody’s allowed to criticize him or worry about his inflationary policies. (notice how anon can’t deny that what he’s doing is inflationary, they can only point to the most mildly positive things he’s done and say ‘see! nothing ever happens!’)

No. 2474917

>>2474908
>>2474910
I can't blame people, especially Kamala and her crew. She warned people multiple times what would happen and no one listened or cared and voted for the moron who thought immigrants were eating dogs and cats. If I were Kamala I'd just laugh as conservatives burn

No. 2474927

>>2474917
She literally lost the popular vote by 1%, why the fuck is everyone trying to push the narrative that Trump had a landslide win? She would've fucking won if it hadn't been for Musk fucking up the votes, less people voted for Trump than they did his first term. I'm so sick of the narrative that Trump's popularity has increased because it's simply not true.

No. 2474931

>>2474904
Anon, a lot of this stuff isn't even true. Just because something was talked about on news or tiktok doesn't make it a fact.
You sound like you probably pride yourself on being really objective and aware of the facts, but you're just as prone to conspiracies as the average foxtard. Liberals have conspiracies too, and you're doing pretty much the same thing you're accusing your opponents of.

No. 2474936

>>2474927
Oh the election was rigged for sure but the amount of cultist defending trump like their life depends on it is the icing on the cake for me. They were so obsessed with punishing everyone else they forgot they ARE "everyone else"

No. 2474941

>>2474927
Less people voted for Trump in the 2024 election than the 2020 election, but more than the 2016 election. This is probably more about voter turnout, for reference ~127m voted in 2016, ~155m in 2020, and ~152m in 2024. The population has only gone up in the last few cycles, and so has voter participation. I agree that people (especially Trump fans) blow the "popular vote" thing way out of proportion when it was one of the smallest differences in election history. It did break precedent though because for quite some time the progressive candidate has been the one to win the PV
>>2474931
Can you specify what in her post isn't true? Not disagreeing with you just curious

No. 2474942

>>2474927
rightoids have nothing else lol. they think ‘woke’ will just curl up and die because trump won (with 77 mil votes vs. 75 mil). left of center people feel hopeless currently, i think that’s why there’s the pervasive sense of ‘nobody listened to kamala’. it sucks that he won but it’s not like we have to comply with all his dementia-addled executive orders in advance. he’s losing in court repeatedly, his cabinet of speds is making frequent mistakes, and most americans can only think in terms of ‘price go up = blame president’ so maybe a little economic pain will do them good. i’m pretty resigned to it all at this point, i’ll be glad as long as red states suffer, since they enthusiastically chose this.

No. 2474946

>>2474931
which part isn’t true? i can source literally all of it lol, and from sources like ap, npr, and pbs news hour.

No. 2474953

>>2474927
The democrats popularity has fallen to levels not seen since their lowest in the 90s. While some of that is because they think their leaders aren't doing enough to stop trump, there's a huge amount of disillusioned people. It's not just voters, it's who didn't vote. Biden had a huge turn out in 2020 that simply disappeared while trumps support grew.

I'm sorry, but the dems are on the losing side. It's becoming very cringe to be associated with them and all that entails (troons, blm). Liberal media is at its lowest level of trust in basically it's entire lifespan. People who still watch the news and believe what's on it are increasingly viewed as just sad cases that you don't want to be associated with. These people crowd online spaces like reddit, because that's all that they have left. People in their lives might not tell them why, but they're slowly backing away.
Some people are gonna be in denial for awhile, it's natural. But the party is dead. Something new and hopefully better will appear by next election. But the situation actually really is devastating.

No. 2474955

>>2474946
>npr
>pbs
Oh anon…

No. 2474957

>>2474953
"Sure it's fine if the economy collapsed and forces millions of families with small children on the street to starve! But why can't the police shoot black people?
And these are the people trying to convince everyone they are the intellectuals

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>go to LIBURAL!! side of town
>This is literally what 80% of households look like, married, fit, upper middle class nuclear family
>Go to conservative side of town
>Everyone is in run down trailers, obese, with 2-4 baby mamas/daddies and their out of wedlock children that belong to the state
>Even the middle class or rich side of conservative areas has people either heavily relying on their parents or they have an insanely unmoralistic marriage, like wife is on OF, husband has multiple affair partners and diddles kids, etc

>

> And all this time, conservatives were trying to convince us this is actually what they look like, and not the other way around

No. 2474972

>>2474966
Voting for the party that wants to ruin education, housing, healthcare etc for everyone but the rich just to punish trannies and BLM is laughable

No. 2474979

>>2474972
Well that's what they did, sorry i don't know what to tell you? I'm just explaining

No. 2474981

Trannies are the reason Dems lost. I blame them for everything now. For good reason. The Dems should have ignored troons but they pandered to this miniscule group of perverts right before the election. I ranted about this to friends in 2023. Why is a troon in the WH talking about kids trooning out? Why? Do they want to lose the election? Yes, they did, I guess.

Transflation. Trooncession.

No. 2474982

>>2474981
Anyone who voted for Trump to own troons which are a small issue in the grand scheme of things is an idiot, so you should blame them instead.

No. 2474995

>>2474931
medical research grant funding: https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/22/nx-s1-5305276/trump-nih-funding-freeze-medical-research
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1266983351
the freeze was halted by courts, the admin is being sued over it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
anti dei measures/‘dei award’: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/pentagon-restores-some-webpages-honoring-minority-service-members-but-defends-dei-purge the pentagon reinstated pages for navajo code talkers and the black medal of honor recipient (and enola gay lol), doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/28/nx-s1-5343524/smithsonian-trump-executive-order you can debate the effects of the ‘restoring truth and sanity’ order but the language makes it clear that us history that acknowledges racism is unwelcome in the dei purge. no i don’t think the world is ending because of this, yes i think that the precedent it sets is bad. history isn’t wrong just because it hurts white people’s feelings to know their great-grandparents were for segregation.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5300992/the-department-of-education-has-given-schools-a-deadline-to-eliminate-dei-programs schools have been given an ultimatum to end ‘dei initiatives that discriminate based on race’, which to republicans, is literally anything that might uplift non-white people (and also american asian people, since they’re considered a model minority, i guess).
food deals being cancelled:
https://apnews.com/article/school-lunch-usda-trump
https://apnews.com/article/trump-doge-affordable-housing-preservation-crisis-de27d7846271779157550fcec0a78ea6 oh, and infrastructure, too!
food rotting in ports: https://www.yahoo.com/news/millions-dollars-worth-american-food-164213694.html (sorry it’s yahoo, the usaid situation was kind of… forgotten.) republican lawmakers were talking about this, by the way, not just ‘dem shills’.
doge costs: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/13/doge-irs-cuts-tax-revenue/ WaPo citing the yale budget lab, again, sorry. it’s up in the air currently but there’s plenty of information on the many fuckups of doge.
golfing: https://trumpgolftrack.com/ he’s literally there right now. he declined to honor the bodies of fallen soldiers being transferred from lithuania… to golf.
his felonies: https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-deliberations-jury-testimony-verdict-85558c6d08efb434d05b694364470aa0 this is common knowledge by now though, kinda hard to deny that he’s a criminal who has repeatedly done criminal things.

more that i forgot: illegally deporting people with no due process against a judge’s order, refusing to do anything about triple secdef dui hire hegseth texting war plans on signal, disappearing students for exercising their first amendment rights, lying about the EPA giving money to criminal causes, being ‘tough on crime’ but pardoning the guy behind the silk road and all 1600 j6ers, AND a crypto company that committed fraud…

i’m not an ‘orange man bad’ person, i’m a ‘i judge trump by HIS actions and HIS words’ person. because he has no character. he’s a vindictive piece of shit who can barely string a sentence together. he’s a blathering moron and i can dislike him without needing any spin because what HE does and says is bad, not because ~the media~ is unfair to him and reports on him badly. i haven’t used tiktok once, i understand very well that not all sources are good sources. but reporting on the dumb shit the trump admin does is not editorializing.

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>>2474955
>>2474961
NPR has high factual reporting with a center-left bias meaning they favor those causes and issues, just like a Conservative source might. You should ask yourself why they're trying so desperately to shut it an other news sources they don't like down. Same for PBS, they have highly factual reporting and were centrist until recently when they took on a left leaning tone.

No. 2475006

>>2474982
why can't I blame both of them?
I certainly didn't vote for Trump

No. 2475009

>>2474999
nooo, you can’t be a credible organization if you report on what trump does and how it might harm the proles. the only credible sources are the ones that never mention that trump could do anything even slightly bad. anyone who dares to lightly speculate on his retardation is fake. news. the reply guys in this thread are the only people who can read biased sources critically and check them against other information, duh.

No. 2475016

>>2474981
I wish dems left trannies in the dust too but honestly they've been pandering to them for years now, dumping them before the election would've led to widespread protest from retarded lib normies. It was a catch-22, anything other than "I hate troons" and the republicans say "she stands for they/them" and anything other than TWAW and the redditors shit their pants about trans genocide. Kamala ended up having to give neutral responses like "I will follow the law" and "I support everyone" and both sides descended on that anyway and paraded it as proof that she was pro/anti-troon, whatever pissed people off more. I can only hope that at least a couple of dems wake up and realize that this is the perfect time to come out as a maverick with the party more deflated than ever. We've seen Gruesome Newsom say trannies in women's sports is unfair at least kek

No. 2475025

>>2474981
The Dems are the reason the Dems lost.

No. 2475036

>>2475025
And how do you conclude?

No. 2475049

>>2474999
Do everybody a favor and the next time you want to have a discussion online, just tell everybody up front something like this. It will save everybody a ton of time. You're exactly the kind of cringy retard even low info normies back away slowly from now. I'm honestly kind of mad that you wasted my time.

No. 2475052

>>2475036
They made a bunch of really stupid decisions that made them look bad and so people voted for the other retard instead.

No. 2475055

>>2475049
I'm not even that anon you were originally replying to, but i'd like for you to tell me how you gathered that NPR and PBS are unreliable, hopefully something beyond "funny meme owns da libs".

No. 2475060

>>2475052
That just proves Democrats hold other Democrats accountable more. Republicans straight up had P25 which sounded like a 10 yr old with a list of edgy demands, the whole "dogs and cats" thing and trump acting like a demented old lunatic, 24/7. Republicans were so obsessed with hurting Democrats they couldn't be asked to hold trump accountable for 5 fucking seconds meanwhile Democrats are constantly expected to hold each other accountable

No. 2475062

>>2475025
What else would the reason even be? People don't like them so they didn't vote for them. It's actually pretty simple.

No. 2475064

>>2473439
You hate… millennials? You know we’re the most progressive generation that’s ever existed, right? We vote blue much more than zoomers. Gen X and boomers yeah I get hating them but literally there’s no reason to hate millennials as a group when as a whole we’re the literally the best ideologically and we have suffered more than any other generation the fuck ups of older generations.

No. 2475065

If Trump keeps failing economically, (naturally affecting his popularity,) and especially if it leads to notably big consequences like a recession, I wonder if it would affect the general cultural swing to the right and conservatism we’ve been seeing. This situation with the stock market crash has undoubtedly put a dent in his momentum with the general population. I wonder at what point he would largely be associated with failure and if this perception would extend to right wing-adjacent phenomena (I.e. the manosphere, Red Scare-esque Catholicism, Silicon Valley AI technocracy enthusiasm, and other Thiel-isms) to the point where it would stop growing in popularity the way it has been.

No. 2475068

>>2475062
Rigging? Counties that have a long long history of being democratic, in this election didn't have a single democratic vote. It would be believable if it was even 1 or 2 votes, but not a single Democrat in a historically blue county voted? Yeah fucking right

No. 2475069

>>2475049
you’re talking to multiple different people… 0 rebuttal, 0 links to credible sources, 0 actual information, just ‘no ur wrong because you cited npr’. kind of embarrassing for you, honestly. why do rightoids have the monopoly on ‘facts don’t care about your feelings’ when they just ignore whatever they dislike? the trump dickriders who downplay the bad shit he does because they don’t want to hear it are the ones wasting everyone’s time, i think the rational american patriots should just ignore the maga baiters here (no matter how retarded they sound). fact check any claims made here for yourselves, talking to willfully ignorant anons is a fruitless endeavor

No. 2475071

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My state just got ass-blasted by a thunderstorm that lasted all week and now there's wasps and mosquitos everywhere. They're on the cars, the ceilings, the sides of buildings. This is so much worse than the flooding.

No. 2475072

>>2475065
This is why 2024 reminded me of 2004, everybody was libbed the fuck out in 2008. The political pendulum is what you're referring to. I just can't wait for this eternal 2016 to be over.

No. 2475077

>>2475060
Democrats don't hold themselves accountable.

No. 2475080

>>2475077
Elaborate

No. 2475082

>>2475049
Oh no, center-left, the horror of it all. Rightoid meme and circlejerk echochambers are definitely more reliable sources to base trust on than a website that grades media bias and factual reporting fairly.

>Media Bias/Fact Check (MBFC) is a non-partisan site which provides two scores for over 8000 media sources: a bias rating and a factual reporting rating. Each entry also provides information which explains or contextualizes the rating. For example, the entry for The Guardian (pictured below) explains its “Left Center” rating by pointing to a column in which an editor explicitly stated that the publication is “centre-left,” citing surveys which found their audience is left-leaning, and analyzing bias in headlines. To explain the “MIXED” factual rating, the analysis brings up a list of failed factchecks, and mentions that the publication has relied on sources that have failed factchecks in the past.


>it is widely used by reputable news organizations as a neutral tool for assessing bias, and scholarly studies on misinformation and media have also used it as a measure of bias and factualness in news sources. Studies of news credibility ratings have found that news rating services, including MBFC, are highly consistent with one another. This implies they can be a good indicator of news quality, even if a static scale can’t tell the full story.



https://newsliteracy.psu.edu/news/mediabiasfactcheck-com-as-a-tool-for-lateral-reading

No. 2475087

>>2475055
they can’t, they’re just here to be a cunt. i’ll concede that there are media outlets who spin anything to be anti-trump (‘msdnc’ lol) but to people who are so far right, any neutral or slightly critical source is a bridge too far. god forbid someone say that dear leader can be wrong or make poor decisions.

slightly related rant: just because an article criticizes him or points out ways his policies are dogshit doesn’t mean it’s saying the sky is falling. they made up trump derangement syndrome so they can paint any criticism at all as ‘lol the liberals are panicking over nothing!’

No. 2475095

>>2475077
Yeah that's why we saw Democrats calling out Hillary Clinton where as the average MAGA would rather shoot themselves in the face than to say anything trump did was wrong

No. 2475099

>>2475077
did you miss all the ‘genocide joe’ protestors?

No. 2475111

>>2475099
Not justifying the genocide but I wholly believe "free palestine" fags were russian agents whose mission was to make kamala lose.

No. 2475136

>>2475111
kek i don’t disagree, a lot of them disappeared into the ether after the election.

No. 2475137

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No. 2475140

>>2475055
Their own writers and editors that left citing their bias? Their declining viewership? That they hire 0 Republicans? That 0 moderates and even most libs dont trust them anymore? That they were dragged on front of congress for all this? Pull your snout out of the slop trough for 2 seconds and learn to read the room

No. 2475158

>>2475140
rightoid cope lol. marjorie taylor greene is the chairwoman heading the congressional hearings on ‘bias’ and the heritage foundation was testifying, that should tell you all you need to know

No. 2475168

>>2475158
This. The right has the biggest fucking clowns as a cabinet "but but Kamalas emails". Like great we have a moid that doesn't believe in vaccines and wants to send depressed people to concentration camps as the head of health and republicans trying to deport native americans but yeah Democrats are the clowns

No. 2475173

>>2475140
>That 0 moderates and even most libs dont trust them anymore?
Fake news kek.
>That they hire 0 Republicans?
Who's to say that's because of outright discrimination rather than the fact that most Republicans consider them "woke and biased" and so have little desire to apply themselves there? Or that they were unqualified for other reasons? An anecdotal quote doesn't really prove much.
>>2475158
There ya go.

No. 2475181

How retarded are all the trump supporters in everyones life? One of my in laws lives off his parents and wife, and because of the market his wives business isn't making money and he ended up having to e beg for his kids medical treatments. Another one is a single mom who bitches about her EBT being cut and how she can't afford to get insulin for her daughter and can't find a job. My dad also has gotten laid off due to tariffs and is going to be asking me for money soon.

MAGA actually wants to sacrifice their children to own the libs and it shows

No. 2475184

>>2474899
Kek does your dad even look Native American?

No. 2475186

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>>2475140
>>2475173
Samefagging but in fact, I remember them "sanewashing" Trump a few times, actually, which pissed off their leftist/centrist base quite a bit.

https://www.npr.org/sections/npr-public-editor/2024/09/19/g-s1-23714/accurately-quoting-trump

No. 2475188

>>2475173
crazy how some people here have sense and examine things instead of just presenting their ‘enlightened centrist’ retardation as trufax (meanwhile they’re obscuring the information that makes their point look decidedly right wing biased)

No. 2475191

>>2475158
>MY biased sources are good!! It's the other guys that are bad!
Keep coping npc-chan

No. 2475192

>>2475173
Literally their own people say they're extremely biased you fucking knob
https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust(this is an imageboard)

No. 2475196

>>2475186
Centrist base? Lol. I don't know a single centrist that listens to them anymore. NPR believers are the bottom of the barrel. You might as well cite infowars.

No. 2475197

>>2475191
nobody’s given any alternate sources or unbiased info on how npr is factually incorrect. you’re siding with the woman who thinks hurricanes are controlled by democrats and the christian nationalists who want to privatize everything and think men should be involved in women’s reproductive healthcare. you can read all about it in their own terms, they wrote an entire manifesto.

No. 2475199

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Let's look at some of nprs hard hitting journalism that covers what's important to most Americans

No. 2475205

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Npr singing the praises of genderqueer dinosaur enthusiasts. Truly a centrist publication, speaking on issues everybody agrees are important and not just delusional far leftists.

No. 2475206

>>2475199
wow, a dumb, cherry picked article that harms nobody… i’m so scared

No. 2475208

>>2475205
by your logic, new york times is perfectly reputable because they’ve criticized trans people and platformed GC/detrans women

No. 2475214

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NPC, I mean NPR, would never lie to me

No. 2475218

>>2475214
can i be honest? you seem like a massive snowflake. good riddance to this thread kek.

No. 2475234

>>2475218
Nonnie, when some butthurt retard starts spamming screenshots as if NPR is here in this thread with us, you gotta learn to just ignore her. Let her look schizo all on her own

No. 2475340

>>2472693
The president of Argentina deep throated trumps and elons cock for so long and he still slapped a 10% tariff on the country topkek

No. 2475352

>>2475199
KEK woke culture is fucking insane bitch im using the god damn rainbow emoji!

No. 2475387

>>2473451
Were the 50s,60s and 70s that economically rich?

No. 2475419

>>2475205
wow, that totally discredits everything else I guess then. That must mean Fox news is totally based and correct since they hate trannies.

No. 2475424

Why won’t jannies enforce the “no infighting” rule in this thread?

No. 2475431

>>2475424
Because that's like telling cats not to lick themselves. Infighting is an innate aspect of the American individual.

No. 2475446

>>2475431
It’s a constitutional right to slapfight with other Amerinonnas on lolcow dot farm, don’t tread on me

No. 2475476

Average convo in this thread:
>orange man bad
>nuh uh post sources
>post sources
>those sources are all fake dum libtard sheeple heh
Literally impossible

No. 2475483

This is what happens when we don't have an Alfred threadpic

No. 2475493

Stop responding to bait, reminder to myself as well. This is an anonymous board, anyone can pretend to be a naive well meaning centrist that lives in a bubble completely unaffected by the global economy to ragebait, and it not worth the cortisol to engage with that. They are not trying to argue in good faith, they think it's hilarious that people are genuinely afraid that a selfish, senile old man is taking a shit on the whole world and we all just have to deal with the consequences.

No. 2475495

>>2474821
Imagine caping for a sexual predator.

No. 2475508

>>2474845
>>2474784
Military service is just Universal Basic Income. Now, I'm not against the concept, but only if you apply it to the whole society, not one privileged group.

>>2474859
>is just brain damage behavior
Only if you don't believe in the Great Replacement. He's doing it.

>>2474981
>>2474982
Tranny hate should be normalized.

>>2475016
>would've led to widespread protest from retarded lib normies.
That demographic doesn't matter. Tranny-run Plebbit is not the real world. Imagine taking yourself hostage to bots and the terminally online - rather pathetic.

No. 2475521

>>2475483
You're so right. The stealth /pol/faggot threadpic was an omen. Oh, picmix anon… when the nonas needed you most, you vanished…

No. 2475534

>>2475508
Last ayrt and I don't disagree but a large portion of the democrat constituency are liberal normalfaggots who, while not overly invested in online tranny drama, still consider tranny rights to be part of the party line. Redditors wasn't the right word, I'm talking about people in the real world who basically view trans as the same or equivalent as gay, and would see a candidate being anti-trans as non-progressive. Things would be way easier if the only people who were pro-trans were terminally online or bots but it's just not the case… That being said I do think the next big candidate for the dems will take a much more neutral to even soft opposed stance on trannies, seeing as the culture may be shifting.
>>2475521
I miss picmix anon. I hope she comes back for next thread if you're out there picmix-chan post your threadpic and I'll make sure it gets in

No. 2475548

File: 1743835181639.jpg (246.87 KB, 815x1005, tra.jpg)

>>2475534
>still consider tranny rights to be part of the party line.
That's the minority of Democrat voters going by the recent polls.
https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/f548560f100205ef/e656ddda-full.pdf
Why sacrifice the whole party for a vocal minority?

No. 2475862

>>2475476
Kek. Once got into an argument with a conservative, referenced a statistic from a study that's used by law schools, then he kept claiming I "was making him do dirty work" by… Reading? Until I pointed out the exact page number… Then he claimed "it was probably pay walled and hard to access", then when I pointed out the full study was on the first page of Google he then claimed "it didn't count if it was that easily accessible". Most conservatives who hyper fixate on if valid sources are valid or not, know they're in the wrong but instead of acknowledging the flaws in their community, they rather just argue for hours over linguistics, "that valid study isn't valid!" Etc

No. 2475866

>>2475508
The issue is that we have a huge population that has minor issues (like asthma, diabetes, etc) that disqualify them from the military but they aren't technically disabled enough to qualify for disability

No. 2475994

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No. 2476035

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>>2475483
Consider this vision for the future thread pic

No. 2476039

>>2476035
Kek, seconding

No. 2476060

The only time Kamala ever talked about trannies was one time, in an interview, she was asked about them in sports and prisons and she said she would follow the law. That was seriously the only time she was asked and the only thing she said about trannies. This whole fucking thing started because one of Trump's campaign advisors poured a shitload of money into the "she cares about they/them" TV ads and blanketed the swing states with them. Kamala is a Black woman, she's more than likely an actual fucking terf. Black women hate troons and are way more likely than white women to tell off a troon to his face and get away with it. Her campaign merch leaned into the LBGT stuff a bit but I have no idea how well it all sold; I can say conclusively that she very rarely mentioned troon shit and she wasn't asked about it. Overall, the Democrats aren't talking about troons. I think they should be more clearly against troons in sports, but again, this is such a minor fucking issue that I don't understand why conservatives keep on it when their king is actively starting a trade war and they are watching their money disappear overnight. I mean, any nonna who supports this has actively allied herself with retards like Tim Pool. I hope the Trump supporters in this thread are actually moids or trannies because Kamala would definitely not have blown up the stock market.

No. 2476062

I’m very fucking depressed about the country. Religious freedom was a mistake. https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-issues-warning-over-new-texas-city-2054688(this is an imageboard)

No. 2476077

>>2476060
>Overall, the Democrats aren't talking about troons.
Literally this. I followed her campaign more closely than the average person so I am confused why some nonnies (as well as my family members) keep talking about how troon shit lost the Dems the election. I’m no expert but I think the biggest reason was the Trump campaign successfully blaming inflation on the Biden administration. Their marketing of the GOP as the party that is inherently better for the economy has been unshakeable since the Reagan days, but it may actually finally break if these tariffs continue to cause damage.

No. 2476092

>>2476060
anti-trans ad was surprisingly successful, it sounds like. shifted the vote something like 2.7 percent. genuinely could have won them the election which is why they are doubling down so hard on it. https://chriscillizza.substack.com/p/the-morning-this-one-ad-may-have(this is an imageboard)

No. 2476093

>>2475548
I feel like you're just proving my point, that very study says 76% of dems believe current trans rights are either balanced or haven't gone far enough…
>>2476060
>>2476077
I completely agree nonnas. This is what I meant by Kamala having to walk the line and be neutral about trannies. What's crazy is that political figures across the field took that and spun it into her either being transphobic or pro-trans– for conservatives they declared her pro-trans to rally them for Trump, for progressives they declared her transphobic ("not going far enough for TIM rights") to depress the leftist vote, one of the easiest votes to depress to be quite honest.
>the biggest reason was the Trump campaign successfully blaming inflation on the Biden administration
Literally exactly this. We can talk and talk about who is to blame for what til the cows come home but the economy is the issue that unites most people, and it wasn't doing well. When it comes to voting the average citizen is going to think: do I like where I was before this party's president, or after? And vote based on that, everything else is just icing. In fact, the incumbent party in countries around the world lost elections last year.

No. 2476096

Bunch of Soros funded protests happening today

No. 2476134

>>2475208
NYT takes money from defense manufacturers and the US government to promote war on its front page. This is outlined in Manufacturing Consent.
NYT also constructs narratives ahead of time and looks for news to fit the story its rich owners want to tell.
I don't think any mainstream news outlets are good. They are all taking money from wealthy people to promote something that's bad for the common person.

No. 2476144

>>2476093
>the incumbent party in countries around the world lost elections last year.
The incumbent parties are mostly globalists, and there's a huge backlash against globalism, especially in other countries. Economy is part of it, since globalists tend to gut the middle class, send jobs overseas, and bring in foreign workers to save money. Immigration is a big issue for many.

No. 2476178

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repost from the predictions thread, but I believe tulsi gabbard will be both the first female president and the one to take power after trump's term
>she'll allow russia, china and other dictatorships to do whatever they want
>at home she'll enact financial reforms to address the crisis
>push for environmental regulations
>her tenure along with trump's will be noted as the when the american empire ended

No. 2476185

>>2476060
I actually think terfs got played by trump because he did a whole bunch of lip service to ban trannies from bathrooms and womens sports but they are STILL there and he doesnt care (source: fencing incident)

No. 2476193

>>2476096
>>2476134
I see Alex Jones has decided to grace us with her presence

No. 2476202

>>2476185
What do you think a terf is? By definition no radical feminist would vote for him no matter what he said about trannies.

No. 2476236

>>2476178
Please anon, Tulsi has even less credibility than Hillary or Kamala because everyone knows she’s a Russian asset. She would not survive the scrutiny that every female presidential candidate is subject too.

No. 2476254

>>2476236
and trump isn't?

No. 2476257

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No. 2476268

>>2476254
Reread my post. I didn’t even mention Trump.

No. 2476270

>>2476257
Anon I truly don't give a shit, I only use nyt for the crossword

No. 2476308

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>>2476270
if u don't care why are u defending them

No. 2476314

>>2474355
do you have proof of this?

No. 2476320

>>2476202
They painted him as “for the women” and thats why i see so much terf accounts on twitter reposting pro-trump shit
Harris was at a loss because if she was openly anti-troon the gendies wouldnt have voted for her either

No. 2476326

>>2476320
The dems are going to be strapped to the gendie albatross for awhile. They can't win without them, but they also can't win with them, because everyone hates them

No. 2476327

>>2476326
Exactly lol. Imagine the lib meltdown when Dems would come out as anti-troon. The best they can do is just ignore them or try to remain neutral. Dems devowing troons is basically shooting themselves in the foot. They wouldn't win over any voters anyway because conservatives wouldn't believe them and still hate them on principle,

No. 2476329

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>>2476060
She sent a personalized letter to Dylan Mulvaney on his "365th day of girlhood." She called that narcissist an activist while he was squealing about tampons, talking about "tuck tape" as part of girlhood, and calling himself a bimbo.

I still voted for Harris but she and Biden both pandered hard to this tiny minority. You can't unring that bell, especially when attention whore Dylan makes fifty social media posts about how he was so important he got to go to the WH. He calls Biden's bleary blue eyes "dreamy" in his shitty book.

No. 2476330

>>2476185
NTA but I’m a terf and every other terf I know voted Kamala. I think it depends on age though, younger terfs voted Kamala, older ones voted trump. I see why a radical feminist would vote for trump consider he’s a male, a rapist one at that

No. 2476331

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>>2476326
This is why I say im democrat, not liberal. I also believe that LGB would be so much better off in terms of acceptablity of they cut off the bathroom and sport invaders. Now whenever people think of LGB to they think of blue hair gendies which is why people are voting against them.

No. 2476333

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Is this true? Do most people really support doge and cutting the government?? I thought it was unpopular?

No. 2476335

>>2476326
Wait, why do they even need gendies to win? Who else will gendies even vote for? I think the Dems should have stepped back from the Gaza stuff and from troons, and then maybe they would have gotten some of the fencesitters. But Biden doomed Harris by trying to run for a second term. There was no primary, there was no real choice of Harris - these were probably insurmountable issues. Then we have Musk operating a giant propaganda machine on top of that. Possibly rigging the voting machines (who knows). I shy away from calling the election rigged because Harris was up against serious obstacles through no fault of her own. But I would not be surprised if we find out it was rigged.

No. 2476337

>>2476333
Even if it's accurate this poll is two months old before the effects of anything he's doing can catch up to him. Trump was and still is relatively in the honeymoon phase with voters. Expect his approval ratings and polling like this to drop significantly in coming months.

No. 2476338

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>>2476329
Yeah lets face it, if harris won we would have to kiss same-sex bathrooms goodbye. Did anyone else here about the first troon to get arrested for going in the womens bathrooms? It happened yesterday. This is the FIRST troon to get arrested for this.

No. 2476340

>>2476335
>Wait, why do they even need gendies to win? Who else will gendies even vote for?
They will just not vote at all which is also bad, like a lot of the leftists did this time around because of the Gaza shit

No. 2476343

I think another reason the dems and news media are losing trust is because of the Biden dementia thing. That lost a lot of trust. I used to hear about how FDR was crippled and the government hid it by staging his appearances carefully. I thought there's no way that could happen in the modern era. Then I found out that's exactly what happened, but actually kinda worse. At least FDR was mentally fit.
I would vote for the democrats again if they dropped the gender stuff and were more honest. Why did they hide that for so long? I really don't understand it.

No. 2476348

>>2476335
How can we ensure elections are not rigged for the Republicans in the future? I only see Republicans talking about this, but it seems like a huge issue.

No. 2476350

>>2476331
I'm curious, why do you say that? I always thought troons were a liberal leftist issue. But it's only a Democrat issue? Can you be liberal without supporting troons?

No. 2476357

>>2476333
>Do most people really support DOGE?
None of these statistics relate to that premise.

>Do you think that the government expenditures are basically fair & reasonable, or do you think they are filled with waste, fraud, and inefficiency?

Most people would agree that the government is too bureaucratic and uses too much money. It's one of those questions that almost everyone would agree with.
>Do you support or oppose the goal of cutting $1 trillion of government expenditures?
The majority of people can't conceptualize a number that large. Most people seriously underestimate how much basic services (e.g., infrastructure repair) actually costs. This statistic also doesn't indicate that the sample was informed about how much the government spends, so they have no way of qualifying whether 1 trillion is a lot. E.g., cutting 1 trillion is a lot if the amount is 2 trillion, but cutting 1 trillion is a little if the amount is 100 trillion.
>Do you think there should be a U.S. government agency focused on efficiency initiatives, or not?
Most people would agree to this premise. It's basically asking if there should be an agency responsible for government efficiency, which is something most people would support.
>Do think [SIC] the so-called DOGE led by Elon Musk is helping make major cuts in government expenditures, or not?
This question doesn't ask whether or not the sample supports the cuts or not, just whether or not DOGE is cutting expenditures. It's like asking "does rain make the ground wet?" instead of "do you like or dislike rain?"

If you actually read these graphs, you can recognize that none of these survey questions actually relate to whether or not the survey sample supports DOGE or not. It's disingenuous to extrapolate that premise from these survey questions.

No. 2476363

>>2476350
Sure, you can, but the meaning of liberal is “more rights and tolerance for people of minorities” which isnt a bad thing, but it becomes a slippery slope for support for people who dont even need it like transexuals. And by tolerance, it means that they want people to wear their BDSM costumes in public without confrontation. Liberal and democrat are TWO different things. thats why democrats call themselves conservatives when they really arent.

No. 2476370

>>2476350
I mean technically speaking troons are liberal social issue. You could also theoretically be socially conservative and economically liberal or leftist, or vice versa, people fall all over the political spectrum. It's just that people are becoming more radicalized lately and often are single-issue voters on the popular culture war issues like trannies and abortion.

No. 2476372

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>>2476348
I have no idea. Trump wants to severely restrict mail-in votes. His stans online never think about how many US citizens live and work in other countries. They bleat stupid shit about voting in person every chance they get. Then we have the voting machines, which are easy to hack. In particular, I fear that Musk has found a way to manipulate voting machines. He openly stated in 2022-2023 that he bought Twitter just to get Trump elected. Picrel is from that fawning biography (2023). Even his bootlicking biographer was disturbed.

Maybe the best thing that can happen is some kind of giant investigation of Musk's involvement in the 2024 election. He's notoriously sloppy with his alts and tripcodes. There's probably evidence of what he has done, but we need a group of people who will stop at nothing to investigate and prosecute him before he flees the country and sets up shop in Russia. I stopped paying attention to Trump's trials because it became increasingly clear to me that nothing would ultimately happen. It was all too late, and the Jan 6 thing took way too long to get going.

I don't know how we can have truly fair elections anymore. Musk is openly giving money to voters. No one is stopping him. Trump is helping Musk shill cars in front of the White House. The federal government is being purged of anyone who isn't a staunch loyalist. It's bleak. The Supreme Court is stacked with conservatives. Perhaps a couple of them still have souls and can recognize how fucked-up everything is. we can only hope for that, however small that hope is.

No. 2476373

>>2476330
many of us just didn't vote

No. 2476375

>>2476373
Most braindead post in this thread reward

No. 2476376

>>2476372
if you live and work in another country you have no stake in america and shouldn't have a vote tbf

No. 2476378

>>2476375
nothing ever happens

No. 2476381

>>2476376
Not everyone who lives abroad will live there forever. If you lived abroad for a few years or less then I think you should be allowed to vote since those policies will still effect you when you come back…the case can be made for people who live for long periods of time abroad though

No. 2476391

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Sorry to add to the news debate but associated press is also bias. I am not sure what isn't biased anymore. I don't read much news.

No. 2476393

>>2476376
This + dual passport holders. If you can just run to another country when shit hits the fan you shouldn't get a vote

No. 2476395

>>2476308
I wasn't defending anyone it was just a joke
>>2476373
People who don't vote are so annoying

No. 2476397

Cannot believe I need to say this but I'll deal with trannies over being fucking homeless holy shit

No. 2476427

I don't like Musk, but I don't think DOGE is bad. A lot of the stuff they cut is really crazy. I think the government should spend money at home before sending it overseas. I also noticed a lot of the big names complaining about doge, were getting paid by departments doge cut. Maybe they overstepped, but they can re-fund anything really important. It's a common business move.

No. 2476434

>>2476427
But they aren't cutting budgets for Israel or military or anything else that realistically should be cut. They just eliminate jobs, cut government programs that were helping the needy and fucked over our education. Like even if you think the federal workers that were fired were useless, at least they were still employed instead of releasing millions of workers into a crashing market where everyone is struggling to get a job and now we have to fight each other at the throat to work at McDonald's jfc

No. 2476438

>>2476333
These questions are designed to suggest support for DOGE; for example, the bottom right question asks whether DOGE is making cuts to expenditures, which they objectively are, but no question that allows respondents to speak to DOGE's performance; it's also a binary forced choice which is not appropriate for questions where a large proportion of respondents may go 'well…' rather than have a strong 'yes' or 'no' reaction. A respondent may believe that the government is sometimes wasteful but generally fair and reasonable, and/or believe that there should be an agency focused on efficiency but vehemently opposed to DOGE, and it won't be captured here.
>>2476376
Then they should stop taxing US citizens abroad and forcing finance companies to open citizens' accounts up to inspection. I imagine many emigrants, including myself, would forfeit their right to vote in exchange for the country to stop meddling in their finances.

No. 2476443

>>2476376
Where you are in the world doesn't change your citizenship. Many people return to the US after awhile anyway.

No. 2476444

>>2476438
>Then they should stop taxing US citizens abroad and forcing finance companies to open citizens' accounts up to inspection. I imagine many emigrants, including myself, would forfeit their right to vote in exchange for the country to stop meddling in their finances.
Yes! I just wrote and deleted a response about this, bc I assumed no one would care. The long arm of the US in the banking sphere means some foreign banks won't let US citizens open accounts anymore. It's insanely intrusive and you just know that LLCs/companies/non-profits have millions of loopholes to avoid the scrutiny a postgraduate student gets as a matter of course.

No. 2476445

>>2476443
Nta but they have a point. I see a lot of people who have dual citizenship or live and have family in other countries that are basically cheering on/denying the destruction of this country, which is unfair they can vote to destroy this country when all of us have to sit here and suffer and they can just go back home to Mexico or something

No. 2476450

>>2476445
Okay? So what's your suggestion? The US allows dual citizenship and there are many dual citizens who maintain stakes in both countries (or who never end up living outside of the US). There will never be any law forbidding dual citizens from voting since we have so many.

No. 2476461

>>2476450
There should be if whities that have vacation homes in Cancun can just run and hide after they vote to destroy the economy. There also needs to be competency tests to vote and be in office. Like why do I need to pass a competency test to fry burgers but people can decide who runs this country with 3 brain cells?

No. 2476466

>>2476450
I probably disagree with that anon's politics, but even as an emigrant agree in principle by virtue of the fact that diasporas tend to be divorced from the reality of life in the country they/their ancestors left, and some tend to be more extremist than their counterparts (e.g. the Turkish diaspora notoriously supports Erdog, the Pakistan diaspora is unfortunately even more conservative and backwards than urban Pakistanis, the Filipino diaspora largely supported Duterte).
However, disenfranchising people with dual citizenship is fucking insane, especially in a country built on immigration.
>>2476444
Yeah, it's bullshit that the USA's only peer here is fucking Eritrea, and the people playing fair and trying to be transparent either have to face barriers to managing their finances or, if they make enough to avoid the barriers, get double taxed.

No. 2476515

Does anyone here actually have Ground News? I don't like paying for things but their blindspot feature always intrigues me.
If you only please post screenshots from it, I like comparing the media sides.

No. 2476519

>>2476515
I've poked around its site and I've researched if it would be worth it to subscribe to it, at least a couple times, since I have seen it sponsored by youtubers I like and it seemed like a somewhat good idea for a news aggregator. vidrel in the end shook me out of that

No. 2476541

I like 1440 news. It just says what's happening, without putting a spin on it. They focus a lot on science breakthroughs too.

No. 2476565

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How long before Americans become extinct?

No. 2476571

>>2476565
east asian countries are fucked because women can't both be mothers and work for the most part along with long work hours, in the west it's possible even though hard and draining to do so. we'll be fine, lots of women still want and will have kids.

No. 2476572

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No. 2476580

new thread >>>/ot/2476576

No. 2476599

>>2475184
He's Crow so yeah

No. 2482100

>>2466673
house of cards is a remake of a british show, and there have been a few shows about fictional primeministers



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