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No. 2489483
Discuss the current psyop regarding ugly and old men being shilled as attractive.
This thread is also for talking about topics like beauty double standards in media, ugly fictional and IRL men shilled as attractive, science about male aging and unattractiveness, etc.
>do not try to defend ugly men ITT, go to unconventional male attractions to discuss uggos you like>report/ignore racebait>this thread is specifically for what moids look like; extended discussions of moid behavior, crimes, sexuality, etc. are better suited to the manhate thread.Previous
>>2398330>>2428639>>2458998 No. 2489508
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>>2489327The World Health Organization considers 4% and above to be a normal percentage of healthy sperm for men. Up to 60% can be unable to swim, and 40% can be dead, and it's considered fine. Human sperm quality is low compared to other mammals, moids were honestly fucked by having their testes placed in the outside.
No. 2489535
>>2489514I've heard the theory that human males evolved less potent sperm to engage in recreational sex, which does line up with the birth control idea
>>2489516>men have ruined natural selection in our speciesThat too, but sperm is already sensitive to temperature, so having the testes located outside the body exposed to the elements doesn't help.
No. 2489567
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Honestly as much as the sperm affirmative action device sucks, it doesn't seem any better or worse than certain types of IVF. At least the egg could still reject the crippled sperm, IVF just injects a sperm directly into the egg cell.
No. 2489586
>>2489575How do you know his wife didnt divorce him because she couldnt deal with his fangirls and the press? wtf is he supposed to do against the press harassing them?
>And moids who play sports are gay as fuckas opposed to moids who go to the gym purely to get male approval and sniff each others farts?
No. 2489604
>>2489483I need a spoiler on this image because it
triggers me immensely.
No. 2489893
>>2489533There's been so many cases in my country of white men abusing and murdering their Asian mail order wives. The idea that white men are safe or low risk is really weird and honestly not true at all. Doesn't Europe also have some of the highest single motherhood rates in the world now too? White men are becoming almost as bad as black scrotes in terms of misogyny, shirking responsibilities and dumping their kids. They don't even see their
woc partners as human.
No. 2489989
>>2489974i disagree that theyre not "real racists" tho. a man can sleep with a woman he despises, there are some men who want to subjugate
woc because they are racist, not in spite of it
No. 2490012
>>2489874i won't say op's a scrote but that image kills me every single time i scroll past it. like genuine rage
>>2489533>white male>safest bet for poc womenhuh?
No. 2490028
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why do all moids have beards nowadays?
No. 2490029
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>>2490028also, scott the woz hit twink death at 25
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>>2487064>>2488988>>2489088saving these posts from last thread
No. 2490035
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>>2490032There is a lot of mutated sperm info lately jfc. Maybe spoilers after this
No. 2490265
>>2489479I don’t get it? Is he forcing her to suck him off?
>>2489467That girl is obviously no older than 15. You’d have to be a massive porn addict to not notice that.
No. 2490435
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This was partly mentioned in the past thread:
>Walton Goggins, 53 years old, creepy face, grey and balding, gets photoshoots plus news articles written about how hot he is
>Aimee Wood, 31 years young, super cute looking, gets an SNL parody in which she doesn't know what toothpaste is, all other characters (including the hag above) are replaced by politicians
She didn't throw a fit like many claim, she just called it a bit mean. Meanwhile he found it hilarious…
What truly shocked me is that they're a couple on the show, I thought they were a family and she was cast as his daughter. Just look at these pics, in all I saw they always look like father and child.
Now there's a lot of rumors about the two of them having an affair on set, she also looks a lot like a young version of his wife. What if that really was true? Of course she's old enough to make better decisions but it nevertheless must be heartbreaking to be always cast alongside ugly men old enough to be your dad, to fuck them (for more roles? or simple psyop brainwashing) and then to additionally be humiliated by them while they only garner praise and face zero repercussions.
He recently also gave an interview in which he talked about his first wife commiting suicide to garner some more sympathy and distract from his nasty personality. Moids whose wifes kill themselves are always a bit fishy to me in general.
The psyop always existed but recently it increasingly worsened. At least the old moids that my mom fell for back then (e.g. George Clooney) have a normal human face and still have hair. Nowadays they look like straight up monsters.
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He is so. So. So. Ugly. And he's literally everywhere. I can't open my fridge without his busted mug poking out. I just watched the Fantastic 4 trailer and of course he's there. And OF COURSE his female partner is played by a woman who's 14 years younger than him (and way more attractive), I guess that an actress in her mid 40s would be simply too old to play a wife of a 50 year old scrote, she just has to be more than 10 years younger than him
No. 2491390
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This jug eared walled ass moid is in some shitty cancelled Netflix shows and his fangirls were crying and talking about how hot he is. Literally looks like a generic redneck tweaker from Ohio.
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>>2490847I've seen maybe 7 males in my entire life (either actors or musicians) I could call physically attractive
No. 2491394
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>>2491390He also cheated on his much better looking wife. Moids were saying it's good he left her because she's 45 and 'too old for such a handsome guy' and how he should 'upgrade' when she looks a million times hotter than him.
JFC I never want to hear anyone say men have it difficult. The bar for moids in 2025 is in literal hell. It's literally never been easier to be an ugly ass man and still get worshipped as a god.
No. 2491402
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Am I crazy for not finding Heath Ledger handsome? Even when he was dressed elegantly like that, I always found him average at best. His death definitely helped the psyop, by making people believe he was handsome and I am tired of attacks everytime I say I don't find him handsome
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>>2491402That's Christian Bale, not Heath Ledger. But agreed, Heath looked very average
No. 2491418
>>2489541I agree that being a gym rat is one of the faggiest things a moid can do (I even personally got in a disagreement about it on the last thread) but I will say that I do understand why a lot of people (men and women both) switch out sports for the gym once they hit 18-20 and I think it's mostly a cultural thing. In North America at least we have a culture of recreational sports (esp. team sports but not only) having to be extremely competitive for people to feel like they're legit, and once you're out of high school (or maybe college if you're a college athlete) it becomes hard to find 'competitive' sports leagues that actually take the sport seriously so people opt for something that doesn't feel like it's meant to be competitive instead. I did some martial arts in my twenties and my own teachers in tae kwon do basically acted like you weren't 'dedicated' enough to the class if you didn't want to pay to do competitions, even if you were actually better and showed up more than the people who wanted to do competitions. Sports can also be a lot harder to work around work schedules and life events in general, whereas you can always just skip a day at the gym or shift around the time you go compared to something like a soccer team or a karate class that is several hours long at a faraway location at a specific time 3x a week. I completely agree that it's much better to do actual sports and fitness activities then just hitting the gym but I myself ended up mostly defaulting to the gym for my fitness needs when I couldn't keep up with the schedules and pressures of sports or when the classes/teams/activities themselves got canceled due to low attendance. You used to be able to just casually play soccer or hockey or basketball in the street but now you can't, people are extremely overworked, the classes are wildly expensive (I used to take dance classes in college but after I graduated the only dance classes I could find were like $60 per hour long lesson, I can get an entire 3-month unlimited gym membership for that amount).
We need to bring back a culture of casual, for-fun sports and fitness activities that aren't ultra expensive or centered around being competitive or working towards going pro, but for that to happen people also need more money and better work life balance and probably friendly communities where people are down to do regular activities as groups.
No. 2491439
>>2490029>>2490028>>2490033>>2490036I don't know who this is but I refuse to believe this moid was ever 'cute.' He has terrirble facial structure, bad skin and terrible thin mousy brown hair.
>>2490265Yes he's forcing her to suck him off, in the last thread someone posted a whole bunch of their videos where, e.g., she pole dances for him to 'keep the marriage alive and be attractive for each other' while he lounges on a chaise longue ogling her, and so on and so forth in their house where they have children. The 'joke' in the tiktok is that once she finally manages to rest after putting the kids to bed he then tries to force her to perform sexually for him and she has to because he's a 'provider.'
>>2490424What DO you mean by cute, attractive men? No woman likes gay men and femboys (okay, maybe some yaoi fans do but basically no other women do). That's a moid thing to like. But also liking those weird bara/bear fags is equally a moid taste thing that almost no women have, which is the other type of man moids assume women like or at least think we should like.
>>2490435Holy shit I knew about the SNL skit but I actually didn't know they were a couple on the show. Wtf is wrong with casting directors and why would they do this, your pics really do look like a father and daughter. On the last thread people were even defending the SNL skit saying her teeth are so bad they look like a 'gimmick' but I don't get it, she is extremely pretty and the teeth are just like one minor quirk of her appearance that doesn't detract from her beauty much imo. I can't believe anyone would say her teeth are worse than his, he has the worst veneers I've ever seen.
>>2490453Reddit has the reputation of being the 'smart' social media site because it leans male, leftist, and college educated more than any other social media site. Males and leftists by default consider themselves superior to everyone, especially leftist males, so they psyopped everyone else into believing they're the smartest site when it's mostly just a fetish porn platform with a thin veneer of respectability.
No. 2491446
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>>2491402That's not heath ledger but ia Christian Bale is not and has never been attractive. As for Heath Ledger I get the hype, I don't think he had a very attractive face but he had a certain type of charisma/emo boy vibe a lot of other hollywood actors don't (a lot of them look really dead behind the eyes and kind of predatory and I think Heath Ledger gave a somewhat opposite impression in his movies) and he also frequently had long beautiful hair which is appealing to a lot of women. He also died young before he totally walled so people get to imagine him at his best forever, same as Brendan Lee or whatever his name is and River Phoenix (who imo is actually hideously ugly but is shilled in this thread as one of the hottest hollywood men frequently). To me he looked like an uglier, greasier Harry Styles but he had long blonde hair and died young so he has a lot of fangirls.
No. 2491447
>>2490435Americans and their hysteria+obsession with teeth is so strange. In France and the UK, the wealthiest and most upper class people almost always have terrible teeth, often literally yellow or grey and crooked as hell. But nobody cares because those people are rich and have nothing to prove.
Veneers and perfect white smiles are associated with working class people and chavs in Europe. Turkey Teeth are seen as embarrassing and low class.
Whereas in America having a mouth full of piano key veneers like Goggins has is considered peak classiness and attractiveness and even a rich beautiful person with bad teeth is considered the worst most heinous trailer trash person in the world. Culture clash.
No. 2491452
>>2491402He is mid and I also hate his droopy dick nose. Reminds me of that one muppet who is meant to be a fly or something and has the long coily nose lol. But because he's known to be a violent psycho moid (attacked his sister and mother and screams at crew) people (especially moids) are scared of him and give him more respect and clout than he deserves, never hop off his dick and make sigma memes about him. Honestly I think he's a pretty shit actor too. He pulls a funny face in American Psycho and bam people find it breathtaking because otherwise he's such a stuckup arrogant scrote so it seems uncanny. Was also a shit and cringe Batman wtf was that stupid voice. His best role was HMC and even then his voice acting was pretty unremarkable.
>>2491410Only his lower third is attractive. Good jaw and nice shaped lips but the brown eyes look bad with the blonde hair, nose looks like it was hit by a shovel and the rest of him is just a 5-6/10. Slightly above average but nothing to write home about. Very average actor too. The hype around his joker role was just media marketing nonsense.
>>2491446Hit the wall at 20 and also had a snub nose and lazy eye. I give him points over the other 2 for looking more boyish and cute as opposed to being a horse faced haggot, and also the mitigating factors of actually being a good actor and being literally groomed by a pedo cult since he was a child.
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>>2491447Yeah maybe I don't get the obsession with her teeth because I'm originally from a Euro culture even though I've spent most of my life in North America, and grew up watching a lot of European media. I got braces myself and have straight teeth but looking back at pictures from before braces I think I looked cute honestly but people in North America are so used to every single person getting orthodontics that any slight wonkiness in bite like what's common in Japan, the UK, etc. seems to criminally offend them. The blinding white chiclet veneers do really look cheap and low class to me a lot of the time though, they seem to always subtly change people's appearance in an uncanny way. Watch any British TV and that girl doesn't have the worst teeth you'll see by far, they are fairly straight and white she just has a bit of a buck tooth/tooth gap going on.
>>2491452Re: River Phoenix maybe I have a particular hatred of his looks because I had a middle school "boyfriend" (who was 4 years older than me ew) who looked exactly like him, and I was so physically repulsed by him I broke up with him and thought I was lesbian for 4 years. Something about the snub nose, bad skin/greasy facial hair look, fivehead and tiny uneven eyes combo just imprinted on me negatively I guess. He also looks like a nerd to me if you know what I mean, has that kind of dopey facial expressions. I feel really bad for what happened to him in his life and I can understand why people have sympathy for him but I don't get shilling him as attractive at all.
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>>2491447I’ve always been interested in this since it seems to be uniquely American. I wonder if the overabundance of sugary snacks and drinks leads to more dental problems, so having perfect teeth is a sign of not having to rely on or eat junk food. Alternatively, even if you do eat it and develop problems because of it you could still afford the dental work to fix it. As a burger I am always looking at people’s teeth and have remarked multiple times how nice people’s teeth are kek. I remember moving to a HCOL area and being struck by how many people had straight, white teeth there compared to the rural area I moved from. Picrel is actress Sydney Alexander who has very nice teeth. She even starred in a toothpaste commercial.
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>>2491472>I wonder if the overabundance of sugary snacks and drinks leads to more dental problemsYes, more so than you'd think. There was this one researcher who was a dentist by education Weston A. Price, who went to a bunch of tribal societies all over the world and compared their health, especially teeth and jaw structure, to urban areas that had modernized, or compared generations pre-industrual Western food imports to the generations after. He found that not only tooth decay and tooth problems but actual jaw structure, orthodontic problems, facial structure problems etc. were related to the westernized diets. His findings were pretty complicated and people disagree with some of them or think some are cherrypicked (like some people will use his research to promote vegan diets while others will use them to promote carnivore diets) but one of the findings seemed to be not only that eating sugary food caused tooth decay, but also that eating processed foods that were softer and easier to chew caused jaw, gum and facial structure problems, breathing problems, symmetry issues etc.
It's possible that in America good teeth are seen as a sign of not having to eat junk, but it's stupid when basically everyone gets braces, veneers, positioners etc. because it isn't actually a meaningful sign of health at that point anyway, it's just a sign of having enough money to replace your shitty teeth. It's not that dissimilar to plastic surgery/filler or any middle class way of dunking on the poors by just hiding your actual genetics. I know there are actual functional reasons why people with a bad bite might choose to go for orthodontics but the large number of people getting veneers totally unnecessarily is because the natural color of teeth (which is 99% of the time yellow/greyish in adults no matter how healthy their teeth are) has been stigmatized, the same way aquiline noses have been stigmatized leading to tons of rhinoplasties. It allows people to smugly point to someone with naturally healthy teeth and say they have bad dental hygiene or must be a smoker/coffee/sugar addict because people aren't even used to seeing a normal tooth color anymore. I'd personally rather see someone with healthy, natural teeth that are a bit 'discolored' (aka normal tooth colored) or a bit crooked but well taken care of because it's a better sign of actual health and genetic fitness than shaving off all your enamel and putting porcelain over top, but I guess that's what we do now and then bully women who actually take care of themselves and leave their teeth natural.
No. 2491529
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>>2491439>wtf is wrong with the casting directors and why would they do thisIt's wish fulfilment for the show's creator. I knew it the second I saw that pairing.
No. 2491606
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>>2491602He fits the very specific fetish of approachable innocent looking nerds that are currently on the brink of exctinction thanks to beards, porn and HRT and that a lot of women like. Its a shame we cant even have ugly-cute nerds anymore. All moids, from the turbo normie johns, to the ''chads'', to the nerdy virginal guys look the same nowadays. Men are just picrel while women all have different aesthetics and personalities.
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>>2491603A lot of people have told me that the show is good and I should watch it including female friends, and I considered it because it's the type of show that normally would be up my alley, but I think I really can't do it to myself nonnas. I am just so sick of these hideous men being shoved in our faces in media and being told we're supposed to find them 'sexy' while they're playing opposite female love interests that look like they could be their nieces/daughters (or maybe adopted daughters because they're far too pretty to be genetically related to the moids). I never minded watching shows with ugly moids who are acknowledged as ugly and just normal characters, one of my fav shows is Poirot so you can imagine I don't normally watch media for how hot the men are, but it's the suspension of disbelief that these men are hot and desirable that really twists the knife for me and ruins my enjoyment.
Death and Other Details was another one where you had an extremely hot female lead character be extremely sexualized for the whole show (waking up from bed in fancy sexy lingerie, wearing a bathing suit for like 90% of the show, etc) but she had 2 love interests that seemed to be there mainly for gross sex scenes and one of them literally looked like picrel. I would have enjoyed the show more if there wasn't even a male love interest at all instead of suspending my disbelief that the beautiful lead actress character was madly in love at first sight basically with this uggo.
>>2491606Approachable innocent looking nerds are all gross coomers irl though and I feel like no one used to pretend they were actually attractive until they started to get shilled by the mass media in the 90s/early 2000s. That type is also part of the psyop, they wanted women to believe that these techbro or consoomer men with no real life skills or social skills are actually better than hot men because they're cute! and innocent! and better to women! when they've always been worse than attractive normie men.
No. 2491857
>>2491447I remember years ago seeing an interview with german actress Diane Kruger and all the american comments were wondering what happened to her teeth. They're perfectly straight, I'd have never even noticed them but to them they were horribly yellow and gross. She spent her youth modeling in Paris, she definitely smoked and drank, plus she's 50, of course they're no longer a bright white? Doesn't mean she lacks hygiene or is ugly because of that.
>>2491819I was also genuinely surprised, this is so incredibly rare.
No. 2491873
>>2491522Turkey teeth are the new Spanish tan for Brits. It shows you've been on holiday and are doing well for yourself.
>>2491730Bisexual, whatever that means for a moid.
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>>2491410Mid, boring and uninspiring face.
>>2491402Agree to disagree
My bf seems to think Henry Cavill is the most attractive man in the world. I always thought he was fugly and his disgruntled nerd personality makes him even more unattractive.
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>>2491969He looks like fucking shit but moids think he's the hottest man who ever lived because he sort of looks like action man I guess
No. 2491982
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The human race is finished.
No. 2492035
>>2491874yeah in fact teeth being slightly "yellow" is how normal enamel looks like. excessive teeth whitening will end up damaging the enamel so america's obsession with pure white teeth is actually harmful
>>2491969can't stand his mcdonald's arch lookin ass hairline
No. 2492276
>>2491969He's ugly to me too, it's not just you. I think it's because he looks like a comic book or action figurine to moids like the other nonna said, like he has that specific handsome squidward kind of jaw and mouth and very nondescript eyes/nose/face shape.
>>2491857All adults naturally have 'yellow' or 'greyish' teeth, it has nothing to do with smoking or drinking. That's just what healthy teeth look like.
No. 2492987
>>2489989correct, it's time people understand the way sex socialization is, women are made to believe emotional attachment and love are often related to sex while no moid thinks like this, for them sex is a form of power tripping, white men "dominate"
woc by fucking them while the
woc believe that since he has sex with them clearly he can't be all that cruel and must be redeemable. it's why male misogynists are obsessed with women despite hating them, they're obsessed with them not as people but as objects, property. that's why moids are never normal about interracial relationships, it's "property" being stolen and taken from them and now they must "retaliate" by stealing some "property" back.
No. 2493676
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>>2491982Yep, hes caping for troons, hes ugly inside and out.
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>>2493716He's black? Usually these incel types are white or asian
No. 2493721
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>>2491982>>2493676This ugly post-wall scrote is the worst example of this shit. Everything that is wrong with modern women's tastes is embodied in this guy. Dumb bitches love him because he's "nonthreatening", they want to imagine that his fugly looks mean they could have him and his woke troonworshipping politics mean he would treat them well. Feminism has brainwashed women into thinking that hot straight guys are somehow more dangerous or sexist than old busted leftist scrotes, when in reality these guys are much worse than the average hot chad. This idiotic logic is behind so much of the ugly scrote worship.
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>>2493721So the male feminist can have the overweight super liberal girls raised by academic helicopter parents with no social skills or friends who will go on to write a
6000 word essay for her mom's friend's media outlet about how his gross patchouli scented
balls tasted after the newest shawn baker movie. This isn't new or remarkable. The young cool zoomers hate troons and social conformity, unless it is in their immediate best interests, sorry baby lib-fems/future feminist e-zine writers
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thoughts?
No. 2494557
>>2493721>He missed all the manosphere stuff and it shows.t. naive little teen girl who thinks the internet wasn't a thing before her time…
When her grownass nigel was roughly her age, Trump was elected for the first time. Even way before that, tons of right-wing, incel, mra channels kept gaining a lot of traction on youtube and shit like 4chan was already a thing during the youth of people way older than even him. So, while Tate might have not had an online presence yet, that moid grew up just as poisoned as nowadays moidlets.
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(no kpop)
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No. 2494911
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WHY it's always dumbass shitters?
No. 2495071
>>2494911Hybristophilia is just an archaic survival strategy for women. Knowing you can't physically overpower a moid so trying to placate him with sex. So many '
toxic' female behaviors are a result of male violence. Gossiping, intrasexual competition, passive aggressive behavior and manipulation, hypergamy, obsessing over trying to look young and attractive, being a boymom. It's all just women trying to survive male chimpouts.
No. 2495092
>>2494911>>2495071sometimes I'm happy I'm a turbo autist and I never had the desire to get close to a man or "compete" with other women
Yet both women and men were spreading rumors about me fucking like 4 different guys, even though I'm still a virgin to this day. I couldn't even reply with a common dicency to some work related topic when a guy asked me something at work, because people would make up shit about me. It's amazing how I'm unwillingly a part of this shit even though realistically I am not sexually and romantically involved with males. I hate heterosexual dynamics and I wish those retards just left me alone and killed each other tbh. At this point so many women actively endrose scrote behavior and pornsickess I don't feel sorry for them at all, they deserve what they get
No. 2495379
>>2489541Yuzuru is absolutely speculated to be a closet faggot. He married a woman for the press and divorced her pretty soon after. I hate the term femboy like crazy because it seemed to come out of the tumblr/twt troon propaganda after 2016. Men cant be pretty or else they're troons in the making according to these weirdos, but Yuzuru really strikes a lot of people as a faggot who cant come out of the closet because of his level of fame and being Japanese. Japan would never accepted him if he came out as gay.
>>2491384I hate this ugly man so much. I feel like they are shoe horning him into every single role now because dumb ass zoomers and young millenials are throwing their money at the screen. He is every single uncle I've seen at my family gathering ugly. And of course Susan storm is played by a super young and beautiful woman. fuck it
>>2493676His younger brother is a troon (MTF) and he openly caps for them and other gendies. He wants to remain relevant and unfortunately, a lot of liberal women are eating it up.
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What the fuck is this inb4 hide the thread waaahh! No. This is about self respect. Of which there is none apparently.
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In the second episode of The last of us season 2, the one where Joel gets killed, Abby says to Joel (played by busted Pedro Pascal)
>You are pretty handsome
KEKK I laughed my fucking ass off at that scene. This is probably the most forced and insincere line of dialogue in television history. I was happy when that motherfucker died, at least in the show
No. 2495886
File: 1745285217379.jpg (34.32 KB, 640x480, sddefault.jpg)

Moids see this and think
>yup, facial hair is really making me look hotter and more mature
Pickmes see this and claim
>he looked just as good in the before! i like my man with some meat, in fact it is actually quite sexy!
It makes me so angry that nearly all of them would have the potential to not be as much of an eyesore but they hate us too much to even try a little.
No. 2496591
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And yet they would never release a female character who is as fat as this. The response would have been a 100x more negative if he was a female character.
No. 2496651
>>2496548Ive seen so many facially hot guys who are shorter than me (im 170 cm so like 5'7). Tbh it depends on your type. I like "pretty boys" and that type of smaller face/skinny build etc matches shorter guys and tbh i just dont care about height. But i cant imagine dating someone who is bald cause like i said, im into pretty guys and the semi long hair is a part of the look.
I get that for nonas who like muscular builds etc, height does matter. It looks weird when short dudes are the wide type of muscular. I feel like being skinny or lean is a must if youre a manlet.
No. 2496694
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re: threadpic
black women will marry the most ugly and unappealing white men
No. 2496700
File: 1745355875972.jpg (59.01 KB, 636x382, 1000023121.jpg)

>>2496694Asian women will do that too, but I think it's mostly because of how many of them are thirdies who just want to escape her home countries. Black women, at least the American ones, seem to "move" with no rhyme or reason when they actually open up and date out. So far, the only instance I can name off the top of my head where a black woman gets with a white man that's actually nice to look at is Nara with Lucky Blue, and even then Nara is
biracial.
No. 2496705
>>2496703Then the fact that I
officially cannot name a couple where a black woman is with an attractive white man is even sadder.
No. 2496823
File: 1745363397266.mp4 (16.67 MB, 720x1280, 1000021458.mp4)

Thoughts on the looksmaxxing community?
No. 2496828
>>2496823It's
triggering me how the crosses and ticks don't seem to follow a pattern in this video.
No. 2497076
>>2496548Absolutely worse if he's bald. Shorter is fine, it's not really a problem imo unless you're very short yourself.
>>2496732I'm sorry but he looks mentally retarded, especially in that photo. Hunter eyes just seems to be some weird code for 'looks like there's nothing rattling around in the skull.'
No. 2497266
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>>2497076anons calling dolph lundgren ugly is a psyop in itself. don't you guys belong in the "criminals that are hot" thread posting about adam lanza or something?
No. 2497283
>>2489557Truth is, sports can be expensive to attend if you don't live with mom and dad and or don't have a job. A gym membership is more flexible and cost efficient way to not waste away even if its dreadfully vain and boring.
That's at least I my country.
No. 2497306
File: 1745400673362.jpeg (794.97 KB, 1290x1572, IMG_2365.jpeg)

Video of a beautiful woman calmly lamenting on the fact that she never sees attractive men out and about and consistently sees beautiful women. Obviously it’s Reddit and full of hideous mouth breathers seething about it. They insist she’s lesbian, shallow, mid, when they can’t accept the reality that she’s correct. They cope in every way imaginable rather than owning up to the fact they look unkempt and disgusting on average. A huge thing is them positing that having money gives them access and they don’t need to focus on appearance. It does give them access but in the most pathetic way, as they are being used. Their money doesn’t physically turn anyone on, rather some will endure how repulsive they are to benefit. What’s worse is seeing some pickme remark “why should anyone care how men look!” Because it’s offensive to behold and I don’t want to look at ugly moids every waking second I’m outside. You would think with them becoming more irrelevant as we excel in education and the work force they would slightly try but they dig their heels in.
No. 2497437
>>2497268That's nice but I didn't say he was stupid, I said his 'hunter eyes' in that photo (as well as 99% of other 'hunter eyes' that I've seen) make him look mentally retarded. It's possible for people to look stupid in a photo and be smart.
>>2497266Uhh what the actual fuck is this supposed to mean, I don't like the appearance of some oiled up bodybuilder incel gigachad meme looking male with a kindergartener haircut who, if he hadn't been famous 40yrs ago and dated an iconic supermodel, would be called an ugly podcast roidcel bro in this thread for sure, and suddenly I'm only attracted to school shooters? Come now.
>>2497283Agree with this (and even wrote a whole post about it a few days ago) but it shouldn't be this way. There should be a casual culture of playing sports or even just doing sporty activities outside like capture the flag or something with your friends. I know we currently don't have that culture but it is a mistake. A bunch of mostly gay and roiding moids holed up in a sweaty basement somewhere looking at themselves in mirrors and taking vanity selfies just doesn't do the good for moids that even vague normal physical activity does in healthier settings.
No. 2497444
>>2496548Manlet with a hair, obviously. He has to be lean too
>>2497266He is handsome yes, but he would be unmatchable if he had softer features. Nonas here value pretty boy looks a lot. I just think it was based of Grace Jones to date a younger, hot moid (and smart) like him back then. Perhaps if more women did that we wouldn't be so doomed. She should have set a trend.
No. 2497465

>>2496823I honestly love it (but I know that nonnies complained about it in previous threads).
Just look at this guy
>>2495886 he went from the typical subhuman white moid to looking decades younger, fit body, perfect baby skin, complete turn of style and I think he even works as a model now. You'd have never even noticed that he has big eyes in the before. Of course there's still plenty of ogres out there who are beyond saving but most (young) moids could at least be athletic with nice skin.
Those "I only show off my hollow cheeks on omegle"-type of looksmaxxers are retarded but the ones who are more fitness influencer types often really manage to change a lot through effort (how rare for moids) and still grew in height and changed their face for the better.
What always cheers me up after a long day of seeing monsters outside are those super faggy pls god compilations. They're all just thristing after chico and co while some gayclub edit of lady gaga (or lana) is playing in the back kek
No. 2497474
>>2497306>“why should anyone care how men look!”We need to care more, honestly. They're held to such an insanely low standard and it's disgusting. If you're a man you can walk about with your fat beer belly and chicken legs and no-one even says anything. You can literally stink up public spaces because you can't be arsed to put on deodorant or go in the shower and it's not even criticized half as much as when a woman slightly steps out of line in terms of beauty or hygiene.
Biologically, men have even less excuse to be ugly or out of shape. They have lower body fat on average = easier to look toned or muscular. They put muscle on far easier than women. They don't have to go through the menstrual cycle or childbirth which has natural fluctuations in the body and can limit exercise or training. The only thing moids have to do is help raise children, provide for and protect the vulnerable, and just wash their ass now and then and they can't even be arsed to do any of that. The fact that the "dad bod" is a term now is just actually pathetic to me, while real women's postpartum bodies aren't even accepted or seen as beautiful.
No. 2497518
File: 1745419778231.jpeg (Spoiler Image,560.44 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_2723.jpeg)

Jfc they need to stop with this shit.
Unspoiler with caution because half naked walton goggins in briefs.
No. 2497521
>>2497306Of course redditors would seethe about this but she's right, as a bisexual who notices both beautiful women and beautiful men I see like 100 women per day I'm physically attracted to and maybe like 5 men at most I could be attracted to, and I never even considered myself all that picky with male appearance until I realized how low other women's standards are. Of course incel moids are miserable with their mindset of 'women will date me because I have the benefit of (probably, maybe) making more money than them' because they know those women will never actually want to have sex with them or actually genuinely like them romantically. They're literally memeing themselves into an incel mindset but they won't give it up even as women consistently make gains in work and education and stop needing them.
>>2497507It absolutely should be obvious to moids that they will be miserable and their self esteem will suffer if they trap women who aren't attracted to them into relationships purely for material gain but I guess they're too stupid to realize this so instead they whine about hypergamy and women lusting over imaginary werewolf alien moids in trashy fiction instead because they're constantly reminded that their gfs/wives don't even like them. Also being genuinely attracted to someone and then seeing their looks fade with age is completely different for a relationship than never being attracted to them at all - if someone loses some of their attractive features with age at least they still have features that remind you of the person you were initially attracted to and in love with, but if the moid starts out ugly you don't even have that.
>>2497496No it isn't, how stupid. Most actual gay men have very short hair anyway, long hair in the modern era is mostly a straight man thing and it's also a sign of good health, virility, and good hygiene.
Posts like this contribute to the psyop, it's natural for both sexes to value signs of health and fertility like clean, shiny long hair.
No. 2497528
File: 1745420079756.jpg (Spoiler Image,15.83 KB, 360x480, 5335cf88c192fd9071f18bf23b677f…)

>>2497518Oh hell no. He's so disgusting, with that large cavernous gluttonous maw of his. The top left image actually made me gasp and feel uncomfortable. What the fuck is this? He literally looks like a sex offender or a retro crossdresser (same thing I guess kek). We can't even use the wall logic with this scrote either because he was always ugly as fuck even when he was young. Also spoilered for evil shadow skull jumpscare.
No. 2497729
>>2497518He looks like a burn
victim who then also had acid poured over his face
No. 2497760
File: 1745432845547.jpg (190.93 KB, 1063x833, 1000023145.jpg)

>>2497528lock his ass up.
lock his ass up.
lock his ass up.
No. 2497822
>>2497521>It absolutely should be obvious to moids that they will be miserable and their self esteem will suffer if they trap women who aren't attracted to them into relationships They're somehow don't see the connection between the ubiquity of dead bedrooms/the stereotype of wives not wanting sex (having a headache, lying back and thinking of england etc) to the fact that most women likely married men they aren't attracted to.
What the fuck did they expect by systematically pressuring women to lower their standards for looks endlessly? For telling us they're the visual ones and we aren't, so if we take appearance into account we're evil and shallow and will die alone? They simultaneously make sure women obsessively optimize our appearances to be as hot as possible while thinking they have no obligation to improve their own, then are surprised that their wives do not want to fuck them. Surprise, it's because they are not fuckable!
No. 2497881
File: 1745438300080.jpeg (61.64 KB, 640x824, GpOv9sHbMAAA2rv.jpeg)

Saw this and thought of this thread. Dont think we even need to see a pic of this guy WE JUST KNOW. Not even cute doggos are safe and also I know im not supposed to complain and OP was just being on point but the thread pic is beyond gross
No. 2497957
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The uglier they are the more bitter they are about women women avoiding ugly men isnt just about preference but survival.
No. 2498158
File: 1745457105032.webp (20.52 KB, 610x458, IMG_2742.webp)

>>2497957They always have that ghoulish phenotype
No. 2498258
File: 1745461659786.jpg (136.22 KB, 1051x698, desperate.jpg)

Non brit nonna's please pray for us we have it especially bad here with fellow britbongs ecouraging this
No. 2498366
>>2497957I want to provide extra milk on this guy for anons who don't know much about Myron. Myron was booolied in high school and college by racist white chads who took all the girls he wanted and so now as an adult man pushing 40, he still has a complex about feeling like he has to settle for black women (his race, he's east african) hence why he goes on rants about ghetto bitches blah blah blah. He also has a bunch of homoerotic pics with the so called white chads who had him as their token black friend and emasculated him. As of late, he has been invading racist twitter spaces insisting that he isn't afraid to have a conversation with literal racists and also had a mask off moment where he implied that he saw himself as white. Currently, his podcast is in the shitter because of all the scandals him and his co-host have been getting into whether it be a baby scare with a random pageant lady (this was his co-host btw) and a clear rift forming between them because it's clear Myron thinks his co-host is a degen and adds nothing to the podcast. Myron has also been whining about da jews too much for his co-host's liking who has to come in and try and get him to stop. Myron is still not married despite almost hitting middle aged, his only interaction with women are whores from seeking arrangements and onlyfans creators who want to be on the podcast to promote their shit. As said, is still seething about being emasculated in his youth and is bitter about not being born white. Plus he has a bald spot, bringing him closer to his associate
>>2498158 who he should probably kiss and run away to the sunset with. I hate that i know so much about this loser, but now i share my information with you.
No. 2498489
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No. 2498502
>>2498491I would have hoped you were already doing that nonna but keep it up.
>>2498366Thanks for the info anon I actually do my best to not know anything about those two moids but I keep seeing them being mentioned by people. It's sort of OT (ish) for the thread but I really don't understand what the appeal of this type of podcasters is for the young males who follow them who don't seem to have their same problems of pushing 40 with zero relationships under their belts. How often do women idolize ugly, bitter coomer women with no accomplishments? Not very often I think so I don't get why moidlets with actual potential to still have good lives look up to and emulate this type of pathetic talentless cuck scrote.
No. 2498725
>>2498692>if I dated a guy that shaved and had longer hair I would get shit from my mom because he wasn't "masculine" enough and she would try to pressure me into dating someone else and constantly say he must be gay. Ugh I got this from my family too. It was so bad at some point that I genuinely started to believe that my high school boyfriend of 4 years might be gay because my family members (mom especially) kept implying that just because he was a prettyboy and also had a nice, sweet personality and didn't have a huge ego. I literally kept trying to catch him talking to guys and shit before I realized I was acting insane and being gaslit by crazies. Ironically he was like one of the two most popular (with girls) guys in my grade so I was letting myself get bullied for dating the (my school's equivalent of) teen movie hot jock by family essentially because "oh what is he, a girl?" I will also never understand why (especially female) family members sabotage their female relatives like this.
>>2498703It's probably because the average redditor moid you're interacting with is pushing 40, fat, bald and still single or in some kind of poly situation and thinks he will get a hot young girlfriend any day now. You're shattering his illusion nonna. Even the non-single ones spend their time on reddit because they're miserable with self esteem issues and hate to hear that they are actually considered ugly.
No. 2498734
>>2498692There were just a handful of middle aged mommies who posed #HAES bullshit inspirational quotes on Facebooklike a decade ago, and the scrotes continue to sperg out over how all women want to shame them into fucking ugly fatties.
They’re perfectly capable of understanding how annoying and jealous women come off when they do it, but have absolutely no reservations about shaming women literally every single time for expressing the same sentiments.
Men just want to manifest you being into their fat, old, ugly asses. But since they are men they conflate their beliefs with facts. It’s selfish and petty when women do it, but when men do it, it’s restoring the natural order or whatever the fuck.
No. 2498738
>>2498692Most bizarre comment I always get is men calling you a closeted lesbian for liking attractive young men.
I do not like how often misogynistic men get called homosexual, but it feels like an accidental homosexual confession. If they think the man is attractive enough to fuck, then they just be “more like a woman”, therefore, any woman who likes these men must be lesbians.
No. 2498764
>>2498725It was women who were attacking other women who said they liked pretty boys. One of the funniest posts was a woman saying that they'd understand when they're older, as if they'll suddenly be forced to like uglies.
>>2498692My mom is into those asian dramas and she loves pretty boys, we fangirl over some of those actors together kek. She knows if rather he alone than dating an uggo.
Maybe related to this, but one of my friends who's into a 10+ year relationship with a tall balding guy who was or is still
toxic to her was poking fun at me for liking pretty boys and 2d/3d boys. But she's the type who's afraid to be alone and settle for this shit and too weak to be single and happy. It shocks me how some women think landing a guy, even a shitty one, is an accomplishment and they shit on women who choose to remain single because no guy meets their standards.
No. 2498780
>>2498738What a self-own to say women are lesbian for liking attractive men, they're basically admitting they're all hideous by nature.
>>2498764If they're actual women and not "women" then most likely it's because the small number of actual women who can tolerate reddit for any length of time are usually extreme handmaidens to the fat middle aged balding poly moids on the site. They're outnumbered like 5 to 1 by the moids and internalize the reddit moid beliefs spending time on there. It's basically pickme central when it comes to social media sites.
>landing a guy, even a shitty one, is an accomplishment and they shit on women who choose to remain single because no guy meets their standards.These types of women have extremely low self esteem as well which they need to soothe by being partnered up at all times (feels safer for their ego than remaining single and trying to have high standards). They're naturally resentful of women who don't do this because it's a sign of higher self-esteem and self respect to be willing to stay single and reminds them that their choice to stay in unhappy relationships with subpar guys is a form of self-harm. No one likes being reminded they have a problem they're not solving, it's like how many alcoholics won't hang out with teetotallers and try to get them to drink too because it makes them feel attacked and insecure.
No. 2498963
File: 1745517165702.jpeg (154.56 KB, 640x934, IMG_1772.jpeg)

>>2498764NOOOO! YOU HAVE TO LUST AFTER THIS FUCKING TROLL INSTEAD!! HES SOOOO HOT AND HE COULD LITERALLY BE YOUR DADDY!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN “VIAGRA”? ARE YOU A PEDOPHILE OR A COUGAR OR SOMETHING????? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WANT A MAN WHOS PENIS STILL WORKS ORGANICALLY?!!?!?
No. 2498966
File: 1745517389354.jpeg (21.63 KB, 227x222, IMG_1773.jpeg)

>>2498963MEN LITERALLY AGE LIKE A FINE WINE, PLS BELIEVE ME!!! WHENEVER I SEE A MAN IN HIS 20S THE FIRST THING I THINK IS “HE NEEDS 100 WRINKLES AND A FAT GUT AND E.D OR HE CANT BE MUH DADDY”!!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU ARENT LOOKING FOR A FATHER SURROGATE AND YOU WANT A SUBMISSIVE BOY TOY INSTEAD? ARE YOU CRAZY? WHAT WOMAN IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DOESNT WANT TO BE SPANKED BY A STINKY HAILTOSIS SCENTED PENSIONER WITH A FLOPPY COCK?!???!
No. 2499030
File: 1745521317774.png (1.1 MB, 1224x2081, walled.png)

Imagine if a 24 year old woman looked like this, nobody would be giving her any grace
No. 2499111
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>>2499038This guy definitely isn't taking any of that, he got his "career" because he was posing as a wannabe uwu underage little twink who's gaybaiting 24/7. Him and his bros (+those embarrassing elevator boys) were kind of considered the most "attractive" german influencers, getting flown out for modeling gigs and even the oscars, so this being the best that we have is even more sad.
No. 2499116
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Female tiktokers like Addison Rae might be annoying af but at least they're objectively hot. As a moid you can start to get a middle-aged pig body in your early 20s and still get treated like an uwu babygirl, just look at his huge meaty head, the beginning of a potbelly already clearly forming under his shirt and those fat womanly thighs…gross. His friend also clearly has the height of a child but at least his weight isn't blowing up and his skin/jawline is much firmer. Why? He's only half-white.
No. 2499118
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>>2499116Here it's even worse, if a woman suddenly had such head/facial growth, people would believe she has gigantism kek
No. 2499137
>>2499116Those outfits though. I'm all for men being into fashion or whatever but not like this. WTF even is that suit on the right what 7' 300lb man did he even steal it from?
>>2499118My mom had actual acromegaly and it took like 15 years for anyone to notice because her head/hand/whatever growth was so subtle it was hard to notice. 24yo moids get more acromegaly symptoms in a year than my mom got in over a decade with actual acromegaly, nuts.
No. 2499294
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I opened netflix and I was met with vintage japanese psyop, apparently it's really good and I guess japanese media doesn't go as hard with uggo men with pretty women, which would make the premisse not completely irrelevant… but no, I can't take it seriously.
No. 2499329
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>>2499303>I hate the general assumption that a man who takes care of how he looks has to be gaySame, holy shit. And I blame the hippie movement and counterculture shit for pushing this. True, it led to bellbottoms, and thus, men wearing tight pants, but other than that, it just let men grow into slobs. And men will keep telling each other that women don't care about this, and that any man who does this is a fag. It's just another form of crab-bucket mentality.
No. 2499355
>>2499303Ironically a lot of gay moids actually look a lot closer to the ugly man psyop moid ideals like fat hairy 'bears,' those hitler youth haircut with aggressively preppy style type guys or roidpigs. I rarely see gay men with style or aesthetics that would appeal to your average woman or fit into the pretty boy aesthetic.
>>2499329Some of the original hippie men took way better care of their appearance and had much better style/grooming than modern moids though. Long hair, accessories wearing, thinness, tight fitting clothes etc. were all common staples of the hippie look even if they also popularized stupid facial hair in a lot of cases. Most fugly moids now don't even have anything in common with hippie aesthetics other than the facial hair, they literally just look like fat ogres.
No. 2499413
File: 1745546886698.jpeg (173.18 KB, 1156x2047, GpJnoc-WMAAcA9g.jpeg)

A really good example of the ugly man psyop in action this guy has been gassed up by a lot of ugly misogynist men and a few delusional women to the point he says shit like this with a face like that. The kicker? His @ is afraid of no woman, like why would you be afraid of a woman as a man? What a lily livered little chicken shit.
No. 2499430
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>>2499413he looks like a fish
No. 2499601
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The reaction to Wunmi(right) playing a love interest for Michael B Jordan's character(left) is a really good example of how society polices anything that strays away from the psyop. There are people arguing she is too old to play his lover even though they are the same age. The bar for women to exist on screen is insanely high
No. 2499605
File: 1745569649677.jpg (1.27 MB, 2131x3000, dpq2ZSB.jpg)

>>2496700Old reply but nara Smith is another good example of the psyop because there are people(mainly women too kek) who argue she isn't blue's looksmatch. And I can't figure out why even if she was that would be a problem. Women are the only people who pressure other women out of dating hot men. I have never seen men try to bully an ugly man out of dating a hot woman. Scrotes don't even deserve to be looksmatched they should date uglier women as reparations for the patriachy.
No. 2499726
>>2499413Whoville phenotype features on a foot face? Dull dry skin with huge moles? Autism eyes? All on the
same creature?? I'm not surprised he had a heart attack, whatever god is up there clearly despises him.
No. 2499740
File: 1745583693964.jpg (Spoiler Image,99.63 KB, 864x638, myron fallout 2.jpg)

>>2498366>>2498488>his real name isn't even Myron Gaines, he just changed it to a white sounding nameHahaha, why out of all the white sounding names would you ever choose Myron??? Literally the most nerdy sounding name in the world KEK. Really makes you come across like chad Amrou, good job lad!
No. 2499771
>>2499572That's a weird reaction to someone politely suggesting you not get yourself redtexted with multiple consecutive posts of all-caps typing but okay
>>2499605If your intention with this picrel was to show that Lucky Blue Smith is attractive you probably should have picked another photo, he looks horrible here. Tbh I think most people find this couple weird because he is a trad mormon weirdo and her background seems to be more normal, personally I haven't seen people complaining about him being too hot for her (he's way uglier than her anyway) but the people who are are probably just jealous parasocial weirdos anyway. No one looks at that couple and actually thinks he's the more attractive one.
No. 2499864
>>2499060Yeah I know, but I'm sure the pick mes over on reddit and the men defending this unironically still think men age better than women so they wouldn't know that.
>>2499777Jesus christ
No. 2499935
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Women are more inclined to dogpile other women who date attractive men than the opposite direction. They are the worst perpetrators of the psyop. So many gross geriatric moids openly date women barely out of high school, and these faux pearl clutching reddit pickmes don't bat an eyelid. But this snark cant stop seething over horseface stacy getting the bag, they make a post hating these two every other day.
No. 2500464
>>2499601I've found her attractive since I first saw her in Lovecraft country
she was the best character in that shitshow and was done dirty. I hate it and was so happy to see her as the love interest in Sinners!
>>2499609Right, a conventionally attractive white moid dating any woman who isn't completely white is a personal afront to their racial superiority complexes. They're the other half to white racist moids who froth over "Tyrone" and "Jose."
No. 2500968
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>>2499719I've seen this happen with fictional characters too. For the past 2 years the You fandom has argued picrel is too ugly to play a love interest. A lot of the psyop comes from women seeing other women as competition and placing hierarchies on them based on weight, age, race etc. Even the ugliest Hollywood actress is still prettier than the average scrote "sex symbol". There are a thousands Barry koeghans, Jack blacks and Pedro pascal's in Hollywood while even the Amy Schumers still have to be waxxed and wear layers of make up. It is ridiculous. And I do not think we will ever get to a point where women stop forcing each other to date lower
No. 2501021
>>2500968It's interesting and depressing how both men and women tear each other down when it comes to the dating game, and how it always leads back to the psyop. Men give young attractive males purposefully terrible 'advice' to restore their internal and external social hierarchies. Younger men are supposed to beneath older ones, so their physical advantages threaten the supposed natural order between males and need to be neutralized. Second, since males see catering to, or even just acknowledging, someone's preferences as submissive, by bringing cute guys back in line they're making men as a whole assert dominance over women.
Meanwhile women also bully women whom they consider to be out of line, but the way the whole thing works is kind of the opposite way around than men. Instead of trying to bring down handsome (or just mid or ugly) guys to the lowest common denominator, women basically deify them. They consider them too perfect for any woman, and ignore all their flaws while nitpicking the woman down to the tiniest detail. Women's drive for perfection and purity manifests itself in idealization and hypercriticism. When someone flawed (female) exists next to their Adonis, she becomes a conduit for psyopped women's self-hatred.
An uppity man is one who happens to be beautiful, because he reveals how ugly other men are. An uppity woman is one who dares to be with a coveted guy, because she reveals how timid other women are.
No. 2501309
>>2493717>>2493718This is the one thing that separates misandists and misogynists.
Misandrists hate men so they create 4B, polilez, and radfemery.
Misogynists hate women… and they want those same women to be stuck with them despite supposedly hating them?
No. 2501405
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I just can’t get into the romance of this when the actor is very obviously 52 (13 years older than the actress) and looks like he’s melting in every scene
No. 2501416
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>>2501405samefag, apple tv also greenlighted a new romcom
>about 2 former child prodigies in their “early 30s”>lead actress is 29>lead actor is 38(turning 39 this year) and also the writerOf course. And his face looks like a grimy block
No. 2501429
>>2501416It's so ugly, I hate this for her.
>the romcom you've been waiting forNot like this.
No. 2501430
>>2501405Ew, this is so grotesque. I never thought Emily Blunt was all that pretty by actress standards but this moid is so hideous they should do him a favor and never put him on screen next to a pretty woman at all. He's not just ugly but ugly in a bizarre, inhuman looking way, like Walter Goggins.
>>2501416To be fair he looks similar to a lot of early-30s and even late-20s moids these days, but he is way too ugly to star in a romcom even if he doesn't look that old.
No. 2501443
>>2501441What really? She looks so similar in the thumbnail, my bad. Anyway this woman (who looks kind of like Emily Blunt) is not a great beauty but that man does not look human next to her.
>>2501442Drawstring butthole mouth, weird insane looking googly eyes, neanderthal brow, protruding butt chin, and dick nose with a weirdly lumpy face. Just a great beauty all round.
No. 2501466
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>>2501416That girl made me lose the last hope of there being just one young non-psyoped female celebrity in Hollywood. She's pretty much the only one who looks and dresses like a normal young woman and then she ends up dating a z-list chinese actor who's 15 years older than her… Some retards even claim this is an improvement because he's not a trash rapper like many bfs of black stars, plus "asian don't raisin!"…
No. 2501495
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Can someone explain to me why straight moids would rather become ''femboys/trannies'' than improve themselves and become pretty boys for women? i dont get it. Are all men bisluts? Literally the ONLY men making thrist traps for women are gay men. How come gay men are better at understanding what women like than supposedly straight moids??
No. 2501501
>>2501495The ones who become femboys or troons that sleep with men are gay and want men to like them, not women. Seems pretty obvious.
>How come gay men are better at understanding what women like than supposedly straight moids??I don't think they are, do you have any examples? Gay moids are usually repulsive to women.
No. 2501527
>>2501501>The ones who become femboys or troons that sleep with men are gay and want men to like them, not women. Seems pretty obvious. Oh
nonny, i wish i could be as innocent as you are. Most troons nowadays are AGP, not HSTS. A few years ago anons were mourning the loss of a cutesy british nerdy youtuber with a primarily woman fanbase who became a ''transbian''
>I don't think they are, do you have any examples?cosplayers like tangtangmonster and shunsukecos come to mind. I dont know why moids dont do cosplay for women more often, those photoshopped alien faggots are swimming in fujo and yume cash. I used to follow a few cosplay accounts female artists used to always tag as references for their slutty husbando drawings and they were also all gay. Meanwhile straight female cosplayers who post thrist traps for moids are dime a dozen.
No. 2501535
>>2501527I'm not innocent, and I didn't say most troons are HSTS. You said 'femboys/trannies' and asked if all men are bisluts so I assumed you meant femboys (who are mostly gay) and the gay type of troon. If you meant AGPs, your question answers itself. AGPs troon out because they have autogynephilia, i.e., they aren't really into women sexually, they're into themselves. That is why they would rather troon out than be pretty for women, because they're not really interested in women, it's self explanatory. Anons mourning the loss of that charlie troon are retarded, nothing of value was lost. Any moid who troons out was by definition the worst type of misogynist possible to begin with, and this is why we need to stop psyopping women into believing 'nerds' are cute or good in some way.
>cosplayers like tangtangmonster and shunsukecos come to mind.I've never heard of those people in my life but I just looked one of them up and these don't look like thirst traps for women to me. Lots of presenting of the ass, this is clearly thirst traps for gay moids. The other one is making what looks like AI filter slop to me which I've only ever known moids to be into. Fujos are specifically into gay men and like to self-insert as gay men but they are a tiny minority of women and typically not the type of women straight men are trying to attract, so again I think this is pretty self-explanatory? Straight men, if they try to be attractive to women at all, usually try to appeal to normal straight women, while gay men try to appeal to gay men (and might incidentally pick up some fujo fans on the way since fujoshis are by definition obsessed with gay moids specifically).
No. 2501542
>>2501540I don't know what any of this shit is but I also don't know any women who are into it so you seem to be talking about some extremely niche thing. Lots of straight men make thirst traps for women that are much more popular/generally known than these moids catering to niche communities. And whether men are into those games or not, the thirst traps themselves look like gay thirst traps, they don't look like thirst traps meant for women, and most women not familiar with the specific media context (like myself) coming upon photos like these would automatically assume this is softcore porn for gay moids. It certainly is not reflective of the typical female gaze/preferences and is extremely reflective of the typical gay preferences in terms of how it is shot, shooped, posed, etc.
I don't know any women who are into pegging moids, but I'm sure there are a handful out there.
No. 2501550
>>2501547LADS literally makes more money than genshit. You dont know about what you are talking about. The world doesnt revolve around you anon.
>twitter feed to the nearest male and asked him "who is this content directed at do you think?" and he said "men… obviously…"why would the opinion of a scrote matter? men think EVERYTHING is gay. He has photos of meetups he does with fans and they are all female.
No. 2501561
>>2501550The Last of Us and Severance also make tons of money and the actors have tons of female fans but no one itt would deny that those men aren't generally attractive to women and that what is being shilled is a male ideal promoted by and for men. An entertainment property making some money from women and/or accruing female fans doesn't automatically make it the single universal female standard but more importantly, gay moids cosplaying as popular characters themselves are not necessarily as famous as the characters/games themselves, and gay males will make porn from the male gaze perspective and which would usually appeal to the male gaze even if some women end up liking it. The costumes, poses, cutesy filters etc. all resemble the costumes and poses and filters of women in porn directed at men, which is how you can clearly tell this shit is devised "for the male gaze."
>men think EVERYTHING is gay.If that's true then it just further proves my point that these gay men think what they're doing is gay even if they end up with female fans. The person I asked does not actually think everything is gay and is aware of media directed at women, but, his words, "these pictures look like the posters they put up in the windows of nightclubs in the gay village." I'm a woman and my first reaction was also "this is gay."
I'm not trying to shame you or other women for being into niche gay moid content, I'm just disagreeing that the only men making thirst traps for women are gay men. Eboys are a good example, most are demonstrably straight. I also would argue that gay men are not better at understanding what women like, just because a handful of gay men get female fans when they cosplay as characters from games for women. Are the games also made by gay men would be my question? Was their actual intent to appeal to gay moids? Are the women who this appeals to a reasonable cross-section of most women or just a small subset of fujos and gamers?
No. 2501569
>>2501566>my question is are the games made BY gay moids?No, LADS was done by a studio that panders to women and also did infinity nikki, the otome game is a an indie game done by a single female dev, and nukani also has a mostly female dev team.
>Your contention was that gay males MAKE the best 'female gaze' content so I asked if the games you mention were made by gay malesI was obviously talking about cosplayers. I have no idea how you misinterpreted my post about cosplays to be about anything else? like clearly you dont know what i am talking about considering you dont know any of the 3 biggest games targetted at women, so why do you keep trying to have the last word?
No. 2501574
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>>2501569I didn't misinterpret the post. I looked at the photos of the gay cosplayers and said that their cosplay content looks male gazey, i.e., directed toward gay men. You then repeatedly brought up that the otome games are made for women, which I didn't deny, but a game being directed at a female audience doesn't mean every person that cosplays as one of the characters is making his content with the female gaze in mind. Many gay men like content directed at women, like BL shows and comics, even though BL is mostly by and for women. You said, I quote,
>How come gay men are better at understanding what women like than supposedly straight moids??And my point was that gay men don't understand or care what women like just because women occasionally like gay content. I'm not the one obsessed with having the last word either, it's you who keeps bringing it up while I try to politely respond to your posts and explain myself. This is a discussion forum, where it's customary to have discussions.
Anyway let's just agree to disagree in that case, I clearly am not convincing you and you probably won't be able to convince me that the moid in picrel took these photos with the female gaze in mind.
No. 2501575
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>>2501574>doesn't mean every person that cosplays as one of the characters is making his content with the female gaze in mindKEK yes ofcourse a guy is going to cosplay a LADS guy, a game whose playerbase is 99% women for the ''male gaze''. Like how does that even work? if he wanted to make gayshit he would cosplay as astolfo or some ugly femboy moids want to fuck, but instead he's wasting money making cosplay porn of a franchise whose playerbase is 99% women? make it make sense.
>you probably won't be able to convince me that the moid in picrel took these photos with the female gaze in mind.what is the female gaze to you? because to me the male gaze only applies to female characters. I dont understand why men are allowed to like ass and women in slutty clothes but women cant. Do tell me whats the female gaze if its not slutty men posing like whores just like the male gaze is slutty women posing like whores. Why are only men allowed to enjoy dehumanizing sexualized depictions of women?
No. 2501592
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>>2501575I'm really not trying to be difficult but frankly I am just confused by what you are trying to say. At first you said
>Can someone explain to me why straight moids would rather become ''femboys/trannies'' than improve themselves and become pretty boys for women?But when I look at picrel I struggle to understand the difference between picrel and a 'femboy.' You seem to be implying that 'femboys' are male gazey but whatever this is is 'understanding what women like' and to me they are the same picture.
>Like how does that even work?I explained how I think it works, there are gay males who like content (otomes, BL, yaoi) directed at women. When I see a gay male making softcore porn I assume he hoped for a male audience initially even if he ends up making money off a female audience too. I don't think gay moids are usually thinking about what women want when they make spicy content. Also, just because some women find a certain man attractive (I gave the examples of the moids from Severance and The Last of Us) I don't think that means it's a reflection of what most women like, in general.
>inb4 "but I said the games are popular with women!"Yes and as we established we're not talking about game characters here but about the actual flesh and blood moid doing these cosplays.
>what is the female gaze to you? I already explained this in the post you just responded to. When a man makes sexual content with the hope that other men find it attractive, I think it's directed at the male gaze. So the female gaze would be the opposite, something that was done with the thought or intention of appealing to women. I think typically 'female gaze' media is usually made BY women, because as you implied originally, men are bad at understanding what women typically like. The personal definition I'm using here is 'when I see a moid doing something and I feel like his intention was to direct it at another moid, that's not female gazey, it's male gazey.'
>I dont understand why men are allowed to like ass and women in slutty clothes but women cant.I already said women can, but I don't think it is the norm of what most women like. I think most women like male butts, but not photos where a man is spreading his ass cheeks, because most women don't like pegging moids. I think most women aren't attracted to men in female lingerie like picrel, even if some subset of women is. I think some lesbian women also like women in slutty clothes, but I wouldn't call mainstream het porn 'female gazey' just because it features women in slutty clothing and pornified poses that some lesbians like.
>to me the male gaze only applies to female characters.I disagree with that because it's implying that gay men don't exist. It's been mentioned many times on this thread that one of the reasons women have a hard time finding content with men they're attracted to is that so much content is made for gay moids, which many women don't find appealing. The corollary of this is that all depictions of female characters are inherently 'male gazey' even if the depiction is made by gay women to appeal to gay women, but I think most lesbians would not agree with you.
>Do tell me whats the female gaze if its not slutty men posing like whoresI think there have been examples posted in this thread before, and many discussions of this exact question, but in general I think most women would agree that we prefer depictions of men that aren't just genderbent mirrors of the way women are depicted in porn. I think most women like depictions of pretty, fit men who still look somewhat 'masculine' (i.e., not pigeontoed in thigh high socks and lingerie). There is always going to be a spread of what different women like but the norm is somewhere in between what men think women like (roidpigs lifting weights ugga ugga) and what gay moids often like (femboys or in this case, totally-not-femboys in women's lingerie). People have said in these threads, Leon, young Leo Dicaprio in Titanic, River Phoenix/Brendan Lee, etc. It's usually sort of a pretty and young man but with some masculine or boyish behavioral qualities. I think many women like half naked men but not usually in heels, lingerie, wigs, etc.
No. 2501598
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>>2501591
You are purposefully cherrypicking some of the more sexual OC images instead of picking the ones that are cosplays of stablished male characters from games for women. Its funny because most of his content is cosplay and you are going out of your way to pick the ones that are more risque and original. I also have no idea why you are having such a hard time grasping the idea of cosplay done for women? like how is a woman mean to do female gaze cosplay for other women? wtf how would that even work. We were talking about cosplay and now you are talking about something else entirely.
No. 2501603
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>>2501598The first screenshot was one of the first images that comes up on his twitter, and as I kept scrolling I saw many 'femboy' images which is why I thought his content was largely directed at gay males. Images like picrel are less femboyish but also make me think his content is directed at gay males. I just found it confusing that you asked why moids dress up at femboys and juxtaposed it with gay males who 'understand what women want' who also… dress up as femboys frequently. I'm not saying every single image of his is femboyish, but I assume from the large amount of content that looks like it's directed at males that he does this at least in large part to appeal to other gay moids, not women. I'm guessing he also makes money off women and panders to his female fans too but I doubt it was his original intent.
You also completely ignored the point I've made repeatedly that tons of straight males make thirst trap content directed at women and are even more popular than these niche cosplayer moids. Even if some gay moids make thirst traps that appeal to women, it's not like ONLY gay moids do. By the way, the first 30 or so insta comments I scrolled through on these pics were made by men.
>why you are having such a hard time grasping the idea of cosplay done for women?I have a hard time grasping the idea of gay moids purposefully making risque content with women in mind because I know what men are like. "We" weren't talking about cosplay, your initial post just asked why gay men (you didn't mention cosplay at all) are the ONLY men making thirst traps for women and how come gay men are better at understanding what women want. When I asked for examples you said 'cosplayers like (this moid) come to mind' but you never specified that you mean exclusively male cosplayers.
No. 2501610
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>>2501605Yes nonna I think so too but apparently I'm wrong and what is the female gaze but liking men in gay porn poses? I think you can look at pics like this and confidently say 'this is a gay thing' even if you enjoy looking at it and also like male butts as a woman. I like male butts as a woman and I like male legs too but this kind of content isn't for me. I also don't think it's fair to say these pictures are cherrypicked when easily half of his photos are very 'feminized' i.e. picrel
>>2501606AYRT and glad I'm not crazy then.
No. 2501633
>>2501620>>2501617Yeah I didn't want to go down that road because this is the ugly man psyop thread not the porn thread but I agree that being steeped in this is likely to mess women up (just like pornsickness messes moids up, although moids are always going to be worse because it makes them violent and rapey).
>>2501617you're probably right that younger gen Z women don't get that this is obvious gay porn tropes because they're so used to it, I didn't even think about that because I'm older and didn't grow up with insta/tiktok so I only saw content like this in clearly delineated gay male media. I just am not sure what anyone would get out of pegging (as the pegger, anyway) because it seems so gross but maybe that makes me a conservative prude.
No. 2501643
>>2501639What do you think 'presenting ass' indicates? Multiple anons brought up pegging for a reason.
>>2501638Not femboys/gay men in womens lingerie/fetish costumes? I'm not even commenting on what women are 'supposed to' like, I'm telling you that most straight women don't like gay men/femboys/crossdressers.
No. 2501647
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>>2501646I asked about 'presenting ass' anon not 'a man having a butt.' What is spreading the butt cheeks to imply making the rectum accessible meant to indicate, to make it clearer? Next you're going to tell me that puppy play with the leather gimp masks and another man keeping the 'pup' on a leash, furries/furry fanart, and sexy maid costumes on men are all 'female gazey' too since all three feature prominently on his insta.
>>2501645Like I said, I'm not commenting on what women are 'supposed to' like. Also examples were given in
>>2501592 and in all the 24 UMP threads. I think you're taking this way too personally, no one is telling you that you must like what the average woman likes, just that the average woman doesn't like gay moids.
No. 2501652
>>2501648No, I already explained what I meant by female gazey above. Read the posts you're responding to. I don't think I should have to repeat myself a third/fourth time.
>because we all agree normal women have shit tasteNot naturally. Naturally most women have taste that converges somewhere around 'healthy, young, fit moids who seem to be heterosexual, not pornsick, and vivacious' on average. That's why the Ugly Male Psyop is necessary, because women don't naturally like ugly men, so men have to impose their taste on women in order to stop women from having the naturally good, evolutionarily advantageous for their offspring taste that women naturally have. You pointing to a different type of male porn psyop (the gay version instead of the straight version, used to psyop men into wanting to fuck other men and become degenerates by dressing young hairless men up as women, shooping their faces/bodies to look more feminine, posing them in stereotypical female porn actress poses, putting them in wigs etc.) and saying 'this is the only alternative to the (straight) UMP' is just implying you have been successfully psyopped yourself and can't perceive natural markers of health and attractiveness in males without heavy shooping and pornification.
You seem to be saying that het women wouldn't naturally prefer het men to gay moids, and that het women's standards for moids should come from porn tropes for men. This moid is not even naturally attractive, he's just shooped and filtered to hell and back (yes he has a good body, but many non-gay moids can also have good bodies). Looking at a man so pornsick that almost every single image he posts of himself is some sort of moid porn trope would naturally be offputting to most women due to the pornsickness alone, since a healthy mentality is also part of what we unconsciously look for in a potential mate and is part of attractiveness.
Women who are attracted to women usually aren't attracted to male porn tropes, precisely because homosexual women are less psyopped than straight men. Heterosexual women are usually less psyopped than gay men, and don't take joy in 'ruining' their sex partners with plastic surgery, filters, degrading poses, plastic halloween costumes, etc. Again, like I said, there ARE exceptions but you only have to go out and observe the world around you and ask normie women who aren't psyopped some basic questions to find that most women find gay male sexuality offputting (so offputting, in fact, that most of them don't even want to date bi men). I'm not making prescriptive statements, I'm making descriptive statements here.
50 shades of grey is a book, there are no images of men in it.
No. 2501654
>>2501652>No, I already explained what I meant by female gazey above.you just gave examples of moid actors, not an equivalent of a ''femgazey'' sexy male pinup. So, is the only way for moids to be femgazey to be humanized and put in the role of a hero or protagonist in a movie? is just enjoying the male form in its raw form not female gazey? thats what i dont get. You havent given a sigle example of how a sexy male pinup would work and still be femgazey to you. You keep moving the goalpost and making it about moid actors when we were originally talking about cosplayers who make thrist traps for women. Like whats the female equivalent of thots posting with their ass out in shein lingerie then?
>you have been successfully psyopped yourself and can't perceive natural markers of health and attractiveness in males without heavy shooping and pornification. KEK so now liking moids cosplaying as my husbandos in sexy clothes is being psyopped? dont you realize you are doing the exact same thing moids do and gatekeeping female sexuality. You obviously dont have a problem with gay men being sexy for other men, or women being sexy for men. You only have a problem with its men doing it for women. And i wonder why? why does female sexuality has to be so gatekeept? i dont get it. Men rape and murder women and infants and their gfs then go and buy the most revealing and humilliating lingerie for them. What do we get? no thing, we are the ones to be sexualized, thats our ''duty'' as women.
>50 shades of grey is a book, there are no images of men in it.KEK anon do you live in a cave? it got like 3 whole movies. You havent answered, is it femgazey then since it was done by a woman and consumed by women?
No. 2501666
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Jesus christ sorry for tripleposting, my mouse keeps freezing and making me hit reply/copypaste when I don't mean to.
>>2501654>you just gave examples of moid actorsFalse, I told you my DEFINITION of female gazey repeatedly, but since you have such difficulty backreading let me copy paste that for you again.
>When a man makes sexual content with the hope that other men find it attractive, I think it's directed at the male gaze. So the female gaze would be the opposite, something that was done with the thought or intention of appealing to women. >Imo the 'male gaze/female gaze' distinction is less about personal taste and more about the intended/imagined audience and/or the person making/directing the content When I say that a gay crossdresser in a maid costume/female lingerie and bunny ears/pup leash and leather pup mask hiding his face is not female gazey, I mean the content is not produced for women. This is pretty strongly indicated by most of the commenters/followers on his insta being men.
If you absolutely insist I MUST provide examples of what type of men the average women like, picrel I guess. Like I said I was not and am not really interested in searching the internet for the exact average of typical straight female taste, women in this thread have provided hundreds of examples and reading which ones most nonnas agreed were good looking should give you a pretty good idea. Typically women care about the face of a moid, so your cosplayer automatically would not qualify.
>we were originally talking about cosplayers who make thrist traps for women. We weren't originally talking about that, as I already pointed out. Go reread the OP,
>>2501495, and find me where 'cosplayers' were mentioned in it? I already gave an example of straight male thirst-traps, i.e., e-boys. You are the one moving the goalposts, not me. If you had made a post asking which cosplayers are the hottest, I simply wouldn't have responded, since I don't follow or care about cosplayers.
>gatekeeping female sexuality. This is the Ugly Man Psyop thread, you're not supposed to defend ugly moids here. If you don't want to have a discussion that 'gatekeeps' female sexuality go to one of the many threads on /g/ where female sexuality isn't gatekept. This isn't the thread for that.
>You obviously dont have a problem with gay men being sexy for other menI find gay male fetishes gross personally, but they can do what they want amongst themselves as long as it's not harming women. Men always do anyway.
>or women being sexy for men. I do have a problem with women pandering to the male gaze in this way, yes. It is degrading and I see women who do it as class traitors.
>why does female sexuality has to be so gatekeept?So that women don't harm themselves and humanity with low standards for moids and don't mess up their natural healthy sexual preferences. If you're asking why I think women shouldn't psyop themselves into obsessing over gay moids, I think the answer is pretty obvious - gay moids won't pair up with you or have sex with you.
>is it femgazey then since it was done by a woman and consumed by women?I guess so. I've never read it nor watched the movies, but presumably yes. I thought we were talking about male looks here, not written erotic media. This is the UGLY male psyop thread, not the 'fictional character's personality I don't like' psyop thread.
No. 2501672
File: 1745732211860.mp4 (2.11 MB, 720x1278, god i wish that were me.mp4)

>>2501666>False, I told you my DEFINITION of female gazey repeatedly, but since you have such difficulty backreading let me copy paste that for you again.and i explained you a million times those scrotes make cosplay of husbandos from media FOR women? but you dont even know any of the games i listed anyways so its like talking to a brick wall.
>When I say that a gay crossdresser in a maid costume/female lingerie and bunny ears/pup leash and leather pup mask hiding his face is not female gazey, I mean the content is not produced for womenHe literally has videos in meetups with women? again you are cherrypicking stuff and completly ignoring all the cosplay he does of husbandos and all the meetup pictures and videos he has with female fans. It honestly feels like you are doing it in bad fait because it doesnt fit your narrative.
>and find me where 'cosplayers' were mentioned in it? i literally mentioned THRIST TRAPS in my original point. Goddam are you dumb. If you didnt even bothered to google the moids i gave as example and looked and their profiles to realize they are fucking cosplayers then why even respond? you are clearly uninformed. You dont even know the most popular fandoms for women.
>I already gave an example of straight male thirst-traps, i.e., e-boys.no, you didnt? you gave examples of hollywood moids.
>So that women don't harm themselves and humanity with low standards for moids and don't mess up their natural healthy sexual preferences. If you're asking why I think women shouldn't psyop themselves into obsessing over gay moids, I think the answer is pretty obvious - gay moids won't pair up with you or have sex with you.again, you are obsessed with gay modis and buttsex, it sounds like projection. I never said anything about gay moids or that women should lust for gay moids(wtf are you smoking?) i just said that only moids do sexy thrist traps photoshoots for women. Ofcourse i want straight men to do the same, the fucking original point of my post is that straight men NEVER FUCKING DO. They could easily get in shape and cosplay as sexy husbandos for women but they dont, only gay men do it.
also your picrel is hot too but if you put him in an humilliating, dehumanizing pose and clothes(like most female models) i bet you would cry about how its gay and male gazey waaaah. That guy would read as gay to any normal psyopped woman, ironically.
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>>2501672thirst trap =/= cosplayer.
>no, you didnt? Yes, I did, e.g. in this post
>>2501561 four hours ago.
>I'm just disagreeing that the only men making thirst traps for women are gay men. Eboys are a good example
>you are obsessed with gay modis and buttsexSays the anon who started this entire thread by making a post about gay moids, asking
>How come gay men are better at understanding what women like than supposedly straight moids??
>if you put him in an humilliating, dehumanizing pose and clothesYes, if you made Simon Nessman dress up in female lingerie or maid costumes from Spirit Halloween, shooped his face into an inhuman death mask and had him posing pigeontoed spreading his ass cheeks, I would think that was gross and directed at gay men, you are correct.
As for the rest of this it's all been answered in my prior posts. I think I should stop wasting my time rehashing things I typed four hours ago to someone who isn't bothering to read or comprehend the posts before responding. Someone who started the entire discussion talking about how much gay moids pander to the female gaze, and giving cosplayers who do gay porn as examples, only to then later ask anons why they're 'obsessed with gay moids and buttsex.'
If you want to know why straight moids don't COSPLAY for women, it's because the women most straight moids want to date are not into cosplay. Some moids in weeb communities do attempt to cosplay sexily for women, but they are usually ugly and autistic, as is typical of moids in those communities, so they don't look good as cosplayers. Gay moids are better cosplayers for the same reason they are much likelier to be successful fashion designers. Straight moids in cosplay communities are usually incels. Hope that answers the question you meant to ask, but didn't ask.
For the nonna that asked about PS/filters in
>>2501665, he's clearly had a botched nose job but here's a screengrab from a youtube video without the makeup/wig.
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>>2501675>thirst trap =/= cosplayer.thats literally what cosplayers do, and if you even bothered to check their shitter accs you would have realized they do that.
>Says the anon who started this entire thread by making a post about gay moidsand you have yet to prove me wrong? where are the straight moids dressing up as LADS, nukani and homicipher husbandos? point them out to me. Post one example of a straight man doing what trillions of weeb straight pickmes do for straight men all the time. Go on.
>Yes, if you made Simon Nessman dress up in female lingerie or maid costumes from Spirit Halloween, shooped his face into an inhuman death mask and had him posing pigeontoed spreading his ass cheeks, I would think that was gross and directed at gay men, you are correct. Well thank you! you are a woman with a humanizing sexuality. And thats very wholesome and good for you but some women like their men slutty and put in their place. A black and white photo of a fully covered guy does nothing to me, but i am happy you can schlick to something so wholesome and that doesnt show a single pixel of sex appeal. I am glad that even in 'thrist traps' men are allowed humanity and comfort i bet they will pick you for that!
>and giving cosplayers who do gay porn as examplesi have told you a million times they do cosplay of husbandos, for women. But that contradicts your narrative so you keep ignoring it, how funny. I guess those posts with 20k likes of him cosplaying as an husbando of the most popular game for women rn means nothing. No, i bet its coincidentally the 1% of gay men who play the game who actually all decided to like this post, no, real women like black and white pictures of fully covered up guys that dont show a single pixel of body.
No. 2501691
>>2501667You're exactly right nonna, moids usually only care about their appearance and being desirable when their partner is another moid, which is exactly how you can tell gay fetish content made by gay cosplayers isn't for women, it's for men. 99% of straight men don't go to such lengths to be attractive to women, let alone gay men.
>>2501677>all cosplays are thirst traps, so all thirst traps are cosplay>thirst traps like e-boys with millions of young female followers don't count because they don't dress up as characters from my specific three favorite otome/gachashit games>why don't men try to be attractive to straight women? the 99% of straight women who aren't weebs don't count >woman with a humanizing sexuality>schlicks to gay male porn images, self-admittedly>men can't have a 'pixel' of sex appeal unless they're put in dehumanizing female costumes derived from porn for men>if you aren't a pornsick coomer you're a pickme!>implying that both men and women can only be sexy or attractive if they look pornified and perform for the male gaze>some fujos follow this gay softporn account that is mostly followed by gay men and features two men sexually interacting with each other in fetish scenarios so this is an indication of healthy female sexuality>'cherrypicking' the 90% of images that are obviously gay porn instead of focusing on the 10% that look more like normal cosplay means you don't get it!>but also I need my moids spreading their ass cheeks in slutty female costumes to schlick>dehumanization is what makes something sexual>20k likes from mostly men is indicative of female gazeYou know what, you do you but this seems more appropriate for a thread about porn preferences than a thread about straight women being psyopped into choosing subpar sexual partners. Psyopping women into liking gay porn instead will not fix the issue, and your specific preference for weeb coom material/humiliation fetish seems a little out of scope here. The most concerning aspect of the UMP is how it leads to bad reproductive and relationship choices by straight women, leads to them entering dangerous relationships with geriatric scrotes, having babies with genetically inferior moids, etc. I feel like arguing about the legitimacy of schlicking to gay porn is kind of tangential to the UMP, the gay moids will not save you from the psyop since they want to fuck the attractive moids themselves. Masturbate to all the gay porn you want
nonnie and have your sexual preferences revolve around humiliation and degradation, don't let me stop you. Just keep in mind, most women do not cosplay genshit waifubait for moids, nor should they.
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>>2501695You just made a whole post about needing to schlick to moids degrading themselves and, uh, what did you say before…
>put him in an humilliating, dehumanizing pose and clothes(like most female models)And when I posted a photo of a man oiled up and almost entirely naked in tiny bikini bottoms, you said
>A black and white photo of a fully covered guy does nothing to me, but i am happy you can schlick to something so wholesomeAnd then called me a pickme for thinking picrel is more attractive than
>>2501574 so, yes, I'd call that pornsick.
Fair enough, I've been here since the first thread started and my description of what it's for is my understanding of the main topic of conversation ITT throughout all 24 threads, but I guess if you want to use the thread specifically to shill gay porn and call non-porn-users Amish, that's fair enough too. I rescind my comment calling your porn preferences out of scope. As an apology, let me redirect: maybe you can explain what you think women gain out of viewing moids in female lingerie, their faces shooped clean off, and in gay porn poses? How does it inoculate us against the psyop? Or are you saying the only aspect of the psyop you don't like is the lack of availability of masturbation materials?
No. 2501703
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>>2501691>all cosplays are thirst traps, so all thirst traps are cosplayyes if you bothered to check the accounts for two seconds before making a misinformed reply.
>thirst traps like e-boys with millions of young female followers don't count because they don't dress up as characters from my specific three favorite otome/gachashit gamesi literally never said that. my point was about straight men not making thrist traps for women, and you cant even provide a single example of those eboys, so you 100% proved my point, thanks
>why don't men try to be attractive to straight women? the 99% of straight women who aren't weebs don't count this thread literally talks all the time about how men dont bother to look attractive to women, even if they arent weebs. Funny how you defend moids and claim there isnt a psyop when its convenient to you.
>schlicks to gay male porn images, self-admittedlyif straight moids dont step up i got no other choice i am sorry but i dont have the strength you have to schlick to black and white faces of moids
>men can't have a 'pixel' of sex appeal unless they're put in dehumanizing female costumes derived from porn for menyou havent disproven it and you have no arguments, again proving my point. You have failed to explain to me how a male pinup/thrist trap would look like according to your definition of the ''femalegaze'', you cant even provide an example.
>if you aren't a pornsick coomer you're a pickme!Liking men showing skin is being pornsick now? are you amish or something anon. Do you like your men to keep their socks during sex?
>implying that both men and women can only be sexy or attractive if they look pornified and perform for the male gazewell, how would a man look attractive/sexy for the female gaze then? dont tell me the female gaze is fully clothed men KEK
>some fujos follow this gay softporn account that is mostly followed by gay men and features two men sexually interacting with each other in fetish scenarios so this is an indication of healthy female sexualityfujos are women and yaoi is extremely popular, and the moid mostly does cosplays for female media, so yes
>'cherrypicking' the 90% of images that are obviously gay porn instead of focusing on the 10% that look more like normal cosplay means you don't get it!again making up bullshit you can scroll on his twitter and it takes a long ass time to reach your cherrypicked images meanwhile most of his recent stuff is LADS or homicipher cosplay, both games made for women by women
>but also I need my moids spreading their ass cheeks in slutty female costumes to schlickwhats wrong with wanting men to look dehumanizing? sorry do they need to be hired by hollywood and have a big budget movie attached to them to be sexy to you, you cannot cum to the male form?
>dehumanization is what makes something sexualyes, prove me otherwise
>20k likes from mostly men is indicative of female gazethe playerbase is 90% women
>how it leads to bad reproductive and relationship choices by straight women, leads to them entering dangerous relationships with geriatric scrotes, having babies with genetically inferior moids, etc. are you new? this thread started out of the fandom thread because of a fat anime guy, it was never about normie women reproducing, who wants to reproduce with scrotes anyways? i want to see sexy scrotes i dont give a shit about being a bangmaiden for them or marrying.
No. 2501709
>>2501702>And when I posted a photo of a man oiled up and almost entirely naked in tiny bikini bottomswere are his tiny bikini bottoms?
>>2501666 i am dying
nonny are you legit blind? and is the picture you posted thats 50% blurred thing meant to be sexy too? kekk dont you have a single picture where the moid is actually fully showing his body? why are they always cropped and show 0 skin. You call yourself an ass and leg woman but you are too afraid of men actually showing ass and legs.
> maybe you can explain what you think women gain out of viewing moids in female lingerie, their faces shooped clean off, and in gay porn poses? How does it inoculate us against the psyop? Or are you saying the only aspect of the psyop you don't like is the lack of availability of masturbation materials?We gain the power of choosing to sexualize men and express our sexuality however we want, thats it. Men get to choose if they want to fap to women in lingerie or their tradthot fantasies. We dont have the choice. Anything that isnt the guy you posted(and even that tbh) get labelled as gay or pornsick yada yada. I just want to be able to choose to have a dehumanizing sexuality like moids, its that easy. I am so tired of female sexuality being gatekept by people that think only women can dress like sex objects and only men can enjoy people dressing up like sex objects for them. I just want to see men in sexy clothes looking sexy for me, thats it. If you want to keep schlicking to the boring shit you posted, thats fine. I bet those kalven klein magazines must be like playboy to you. But i dont feel anything seeing that, because its boring. There is nothing taboo about seeing a shirtless guy posing like a dead fish, they do that for free in the beach. I want a guy willing to humilliate himself for my pleasure, like how straight women do on their daily sex lives for men.
No. 2501736
>>2501703>yes if you bothered to check the accountsWas I supposed to mind-read you that when you mentioned thirst traps you meant only, specifically, male cosplayers? I asked you to give examples of gay men understanding what women find attractive and playing to the female gaze better than straight moids, and you gave me two accounts full of gay softcore porn mainly aimed at moids. That's why I disagreed with you, because I thought these were not good examples of moids 'understanding what women want,' and I thought they were just two examples of your thesis that 'gay men make better thirst traps for women.' In fact, you said ONLY gay men make ANY thirst traps for women. I didn't realize that by 'any thirst traps for women' you meant 'thirst traps dressed up as my personal husbandos,' I thought you meant what you said, 'straight women.'
>single example of those eboysYou can just google e-boy. I don't know them by name, I don't use tiktok.
>Funny how you defend moids and claim there isnt a psyop I never claimed there isn't a psyop, I said that only gay moids dressing up as your husbandos isn't the best evidence of the psyop. Some straight moids do attempt to look attractive to women, and part of the psyop is that older/uglier moids try to psyop those men into making themselves uglier (like making them take roids, grow beards, etc). Straight moids not dressing up as your specific husbandos is not a psyop - as you yourself stated, your otome games have a 99% female user base.
>i am sorry but i dont have the strength you have to schlick to black and white faces of moidsI don't shlick to images of men or porn at all, that's why I called masturbating to porn images coomerism. It's literally the definition. You admitted to cooming to gay porn accounts, then you asked why I was accusing you of cooming. I'm not a coomer and I'm anti-porn so I don't see much of an issue with insufficient coom material for women as I think pornography use is bad for both men and women.
>you havent disproven it and you have no argumentsI have no ability nor intention to disprove your assertion about what kind of porn you can or can't get off to. I believe you, nonna.
>Liking men showing skin is being pornsick now? are you amish or something anon. Do you like your men to keep their socks during sex?Asked and responded.
>how would a man look attractive/sexy for the female gaze then?By being attractive. Being attractive doesn't require any specific fetish getup. Attractive people are attractive. Hopefully if you're in a relationship with them, you see them naked.
>whats wrong with wanting men to look dehumanizing?There are many threads on lolcow about what's wrong with porn and what's wrong with revolving human sexuality around dehumanization. If you can't see how something can be sexual without being dehumanizing, I think you have a lot of deprogramming to do.
>the playerbase is 90% womenI was talking about his instagram followers, anon. Remember that we are talking about the moid, tangtang, here.
>are you new?No, I've been on the thread since the first thread, like I just said in the post above yours. I've read the contents of most of the threads, and that has been the main thrust of discussion no matter what infight in /g/ started it.
Anyway, I think I'm starting to understand what your point was and what you were originally intending to ask. It seems to me like your sense of your own sexual attraction to males is specifically tied to your husbandos or specific games that you play, and to rephrase your original question as you meant it, you were asking why gay moids cosplay as female otome game husbandos while most straight moids do not. My best answer to this question is that you're actually comparing professional softcore porn cosplay 'models' to normal people. Most of the women that cosplay as sexualized characters from male games are not hobbyist cosplayers, they're women who make a career and money from cosplaying as those characters and either going to cons, or posting on insta/OF. Essentially, they are sex workers or models. The sex worker or model female cosplayers tend to be conventionally attractive, and they dress up as characters popular with males because males are a majority of con attendees and also a majority of pornography consumers. Normal women who like cosplaying as a hobby usually don't dress up as these characters.
OTOH, you kind of answered your own question unintentionally when you asked why gay moids are more likely to dress up as your husbandos. It's because female games tend to sexualize the male characters more and put them in more sexualized costumes, and it's because most of the gay moids who cosplay as them are professional whores/OF/insta models. The gay moids do this because they want to appeal to moids, but also because they can easily google 'popular hot skimpy male anime/video game character' and find costumes that are skimpy and sexualized. Their OF and insta is probably followed mostly by other gay moids who like seeing gay men sexualizing themselves for the male gaze, so the skimpier the costume the better, but they can also make extra money from picking up some female fans who like the fact they're cosplaying as popular otome characters.
Why don't normal straight men do this? Well, most normal straight men don't participate in porn, ESPECIALLY not to appeal to women, as most women don't like men who star in porn. Almost all porn is directed at males, and even if women watch porn, they probably wouldn't want to date the straight men who do porn. Most males who cosplay at cons and as a hobby are ugly neckbeards who aren't there for women, and they prefer to dress up as characters from IP that they actually like/are invested in. They're probably too self conscious about their bodies to dress up as highly sexualized male characters from otome games because they're not professional porn models. Most of them, as you said, don't play the otome games, so they don't care about characters from female games. I think it's pretty self-explanatory why male weebs, who tend to be at the very bottom of the social totem pole and attractiveness hierarchy, are not attractive.
Most of the people doing porn are women, and most of the men doing porn are gay. Therefore, if you are looking for men who do porn professionally, they are more likely to be gay. Why don't straight men do porn? Because they find it degrading, and the women they want to date wouldn't like it anyway. The men who do degrading sexual shit almost 100% of the time do it for the male gaze, they are gay men. If you are specifically attracted to male feminization and degradation, then it is no wonder that most of the men acting that out for you are gay, because you have a minority preference. If you are asking why straight men don't hobby cosplay characters from games they don't play and haven't heard of, you need to read your question back and think about it, it answers itself.
No. 2501747
>>2501709You asked me for a moid women would find generally attractive so I posted a moid with a FACE most women would find attractive, and an attractive body type, because I thought you were asking about an example of a hot moid and most women are attracted to beautiful faces primarily, and, second, fit body types. I didn't know you were asking for examples of good legs or 'pinups,' whatever that is but I don't consume porn so I don't have that at the ready for you sorry. FWIW nothing wrong with the legs of the moids you posted, it's their faces and presentation that are the problem. I just thought it was funny that you called this guy in briefs and no other clothing 'fully covered up' lmao.
>>2501709>We gain the power of choosing to sexualize men and express our sexuality however we want, thats it.Oh, I see, I am witnessing a zoomer woman discovering baby's first 2010-era liberal feminism. I'm sure that women will benefit from getting to be just as degenerate as scrotes and getting invested in gay male taboos any minute now. I don't promote women humiliating themselves for male pleasure and, as I said in an earlier post, I consider them class traitors/handmaidens.
No. 2501756
>>2501416I've noticed the age gaps of romcoms are getting bigger. Some older examples:
Clueless: 8 years
She's all that: 4 years
10 things I hate about you: 2 years
How to lose a guy in 10 days: 9 years
Some of these age gaps were already big but the fact that it's getting worse says a lot.
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>>2501736>>2501747patience of a saint, bless you nonna
No. 2502453
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pol have gotten very excited over this image and are making out women are going to be falling over themselves and saying they are all going to make it. Personally I think he looks average but they are insisting hes a chad. Thoughts?
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>>2502455Mass shooter who became a meme
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>>2502455It’s the Chud himself
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>>2502453Men see a fellow XY with a jawline and think that alone makes his face a 10/10. The bar is in hell for them, and they keep kicking it down.
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>>2502464>Men see a fellow XY with a jawline and think that alone makes his face a 10/10.Inside every man (not in that way) is a faggot just waiting to break free.
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>>2502464This was in that same thread. Not defending this guy but he males pol seethe like crazy kek.
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Alright alright last one but yeah bar is in hell men are so delusional if they think that is what women want kek
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>>2502453Well the average chud look like picrel so I guess that's why they think he's a Chad. He killed multiple women so I don't care if he's attractive or not anyways
No. 2502542
>>2502143Was this a mistake? AYRT and I made a post saying women shouldn't be attracted to gay porn and you call me a fujo who has never fucked? I'm assuming you meant to respond to the other anon I was arguing with.
>>2502156I don't think women interested in 'topping' women (what does that even mean in a female homosexual context?) get confused and think they want to fuck gay moids. If a woman wanted a submissive receptive man she would just continue to be straight, nothing to do with bisexuality.
>>2502464If it were that easy shouldn't they all just lose weight? If a moid has low enough body fat he, too, can get a jawline. They unironically just showed a picture of a moid after minor weight loss and growing out his toddler haircut and were like 'this makes him a chad, a 10/10' so none of them have any excuses at all.
No. 2502579
>>2502571AYRT and that’s my point nona. You are making all these generalizations that no “normal” straight women are attracted to men you deem as being “faggy.” But your definition for what makes a man “faggy” is just being androgynous or liking feminine things. Lots of women like these “faggy” types of men. Hell, there was a whole generation of regular hetero women in the 80s who were obsessed with long-haired, eye-liner wearing rock star moids in skin tight jeans
my mother was one of them kek. Women who value beauty and aesthetics in men are not some fringe freakish sub-group like you think. They are just women who are different from you.
No. 2502586
>>2502579NTA but there is a huge difference between being attracted to androgynous/alt men and actual gay men. She's right that no mentally healthy straight woman would be obsessed with gay men, but neither would any mentally healthy bisexual or lesbian. The reality is that there is a large subset of straight women who are not mentally healthy who have a fixation on gay moids, for a variety of reasons.
Of course it is completely fine to be attracted to someone who isn't hypermasculine but there's nothing normal or natural about pornographic objectification, and it's ridiculous to call pornographic objectification 'feminine' anyway. Wearing eyeliner and being a rock star is not the same as being a homosexual who does offensive porny drag. There was nothing 'beautiful and aesthetic' about that cosplayer moid she kept shilling, he is an ugly gay man in offensive drag.
No. 2502591
>>2502570I think you're talking about me in this post and if you are, you completely misinterpreted what I was saying. I didn't say it's 'inherently female' to do porn poses, I said they are poses female actresses are forced to do in porn, because they are a coomer moid fantasy. NO ONE, male or female, would intrinsically or inherently do these poses, but what they represent in the media and in society's eyes is female degradation. Men cosplaying this female degradation because they want to be fucked in the ass by moids aren't 'leveling the playing field' or 'acting GNC' or 'destroying the gender binary' or whatever you think they're doing, they're just mocking women's subjugation by the men they themselves love and want to please. They are cosplaying offensive stereotypes caused by trafficked women being raped and financially coerced in pornography BY MEN in order to please and get along with other men. THAT is why no mentally healthy woman of any sexuality would be attracted to it. It's like being attracted to someone calling you "cunt," "slut," "whore," to your face while having sex with you.
Just because something isn't intrinsic to women doesn't mean men should do it, much less be perceived as attractive while doing it. Why can anons here easily recognize this when AGP moids do this shit to masturbate to themselves in the mirror but as soon as a gay moid does it we're supposed to go, "oh yeah, that's so hot!"
No. 2502604
>>2502600Yeah I can't speak for the other nonna but I assumed she meant attraction to actual gay men which she seems to confirm here
>>2502580 although I disagree with her that straight girls gravitate toward Asian media because the men are effeminate af. Maybe she means specific animes or something because the most popular form of Asian media right now seems to be kdrama and the men in kdrama are not, imo, effeminate on average. She and I might have different ideas of what effeminate means. But anyway her original point seemed to be that the nonna upthread shilling the gay porn cosplayer moid is exhibiting an unhealthy form of sexuality which I agree with, for more reasons than one (she admitted to being a coomer, she admitted to thinking that sex is all about degradation and humiliation and that no one can be sexually attractive without being degraded, she said only gay men are attractive to women, seems to only be attracted to men in cosplay of her husbandos, extremely fixated on nudity as a proxy for attractiveness, several other weird things I don't want to comb through her posts again to recall).
They are not 'most likely gay' they are confirmed gay moids, which is what she said at the start of the discussion - they were her examples of 'gay moids being the only ones who understand how to be attractive to women' so none of us were talking about women being into effeminate-presenting straight men but confirmed gay porn models.
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What do you think about cod cosplayers? This is pretty much the opposite of the above cosplay, but I think more guys are more likely to do something like this.
They hide their face (ugliest part+can hide identity) and the millitary gear is masculine by default so they just pose in various state of undress.
No. 2502685
>>2502682There are other cosplayers, this is just the first shirtless example i found.
But the character is supposed to be bulky so
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Has anyone else here seen this tweet that's been going around? I feel like it's fitting for this thread. It's some guy's before and after and how men think the right is what women want while women supposedly like the left. It's been getting quote rt'd and passed around a lot on twitter with women claiming men just don't know what "we" like and that all women supposedly would prefer the left over the right (like this person in my screenshot), but all I can think about while seeing this is that both of them look bad kek. I don't like the left or the right, because in both he's still balding and has a bad face for example. But the way people are talking about this on twitter it's like women have to like the left if they dislike the right and it's really weird to me.
It reminds me that it really annoys me how even when women are trying to tell men what "we" like supposedly, it's still full of this idea that women must ackshually all be into dad bods and men's personalities above all else, and the comments and qrts are full of that type of mentality too.
No. 2502808
>>2502665Very likely that they are ugl but like nonna
>>2502677 said, I also love ghost so much. I don't care about his actual face (or the cosplayer one) as long as the rest looks good kek. As much as I love Ghost, I tend to avoid cod cosplayers because I'm already very horny, and because I hate how many fans of it, especially Ghost, are weird tifs. But I really love men cosplaying masked characters.
No. 2502813
>>2502793Both look bad, but in the after looks like his hairline has receded even more and I don't know, I've never liked the look of muscular bodies like that, I prefer them when they look "full" if that makes sense.
I think overall it's very hard to tell what women like because we are not as primitive as men, some women like dadbods some others like roidmoids. But I really hate when women find the ugliest man and call him the female gaze or "yeah, this is what we want". I wouldn't get annoyed if at least they picked someone decent looking kek, but they always say that about the ugliest moids.
No. 2502816
>>2502793Tbh I prefer the left even though he's ugly in both. The physique on the right requires an insane amount of time in the gym and in the kitchen in terms of cutting/bulking cycles and if you've been around gym bros you will know how insufferable they can be and how it quickly turns into an eating disorder. A lot of women probably prefer the left because it's a bit more of a sensible and achievable approach to being fit.
Saying that though I don't know why men have to be retarded and act so oblivious to what women like or dislike. First of all it's completely different woman to woman, but if we're speaking in terms of the picrel, yeah most women are open and vocal about preferring a healthy figure on men with a healthy amount of fat. This whole male muscle roid fetish has always been a dickwaving contest for other men and I've never actually met any woman irl who has been into it. I'm sure there's some out there ofc but it really seems to be other men (and ironically, fags) who are into this kek.
I also think it can go too far to where women feel like we have to settle for some fat sloppy retard physique like what we see in this thread kek. It's like these retards can't figure out that generally speaking, women like a balanced healthy moid who isn't going to harm them in any way. They don't have to have a "dad bod" and they don't have to be ripped or 7ft tall either. Men also don't consider that women think differently (and more intelligently) and we assess a moid through the entire picture and the way he holds himself, compared to moids who will date a woman solely because she has a big ass or big boobs or because they have a specific fetish. They literally cannot comprehend that the average het woman probably just wants a man to look after her and treat her well and that he doesn't have to have 3% body fat or be built like a superhero. They can't understand that because their way of thinking is innately selfish, shallow and based on reducing people down to body parts.
No. 2502833
>>2502813I feel like it's also hard to tell because lots of women have been psyopped into thinking looks just don't really matter for men and have had years of conditioning in that sense, plus if you voice your actual preferences you get men chimping out at you. Whereas with men they get to express themselves freely about whatever they like in women usually and all of society pandering to them and their tastes. And yes exactly that's what annoys me about this, they always throw around the female gaze buzzword (they were doing it under this tweet as well) about some ugly or mid moid when I'm a woman and my gaze isn't pleased by this guy, even on the left kek. They'll say they're into ugly men and pass it off as all women being into that, which bothers me.
>>2502816Yeah, a lot of the qrts were assuming he must have an eating disorder on the right and talking about gym bros being annoying, which I understand but at the same time it's so weird how they act like that somehow means the left guy is some sort of adonis and what all women want. I feel like they come close to making a good point, that caring way too much about muscles and going to the gym is more so posturing for other males and that gym bros are annoying (correct), but then fumble it at the end by acting like this also means the ideal moid for women is someone who looks like the left and that women only care about personality or whatever, which I just can't agree with and just feels like it hits on the psyop again. I feel like women tend to look at the bigger picture for sure and don't look at men exactly the same way as men do, but I still don't really like this idea that I'm supposed to be fine with some hairy ugly overweight man that they love to peddle whenever this discussion comes up. It's like women who aren't into either and actually want a cute moid are just completely left out of the discussion since most women are psyopped into settling.
>>2502820True, most women wouldn't go for a fat guy but they usually won't leave if he gets fat especially if they have kids.
>>2502824Oh I could see that, his head looks weird on the right for sure.
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No. 2503010
>>2502793For body type I would probably prefer something in between the two, since I do know what gym rat men are like and the physique on the right looks like a bit of an orthorexia red flag to me in a man that age, but the one on the left is a little too fat and blocky for my preferences. But he is too ugly to date in both (facially, hair, etc) imo, yet I can see why women went for the left image. He looks really goofy on the right, bobbleheaded, making a stupid pose, wearing that speedo, and it makes him look more bald. His smile looks more genuine in the left photo and he is wearing a more normal outfit for a public place compared to the right, and just genuinely doesn't have that 'vain manic man' appearance I associate with moids who are taking amphetamines and on a weird diet and possibly roiding. Many men are probably reacting to the subtler social cues in the image about what kind of person he looks like rather than the body itself, which is something I don't think men can understand because they never react to appearance cues if they're subtle.
No. 2503019
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>>2502793Found another pic of his '12 week transformation' on google and in this one I think almost all women would agree the right is better, so it probably is (largely) the pose.
No. 2503232
File: 1745869907999.png (1.25 MB, 1170x2532, IMG_7117.png)

Wokies are upset Pinkpanthress didn’t include any fat males in her new music video. They can seethe, none of them were super handsome but all of the men were fit and thankfully most shots were of their abs. I feel like the UMP isn’t as prevalent in music videos, especially ones from the early 2000s.
No. 2503688
File: 1745895446946.png (663.43 KB, 655x835, ghost.png)

>>2502665Thank you for sending me down this very based rabbithole, nona. I personally think masked guys are very hot, and I love seeing male cosplayers degrade themselves by wearing slutty costumes like this. Picrel is closer to my ideal type, 10/10 would love to scratch my fingernails hard down his chest while hearing his muffled whimpers of pain through the mask.
No. 2503696
File: 1745895853153.webp (102.79 KB, 860x1290, smallville-poster.webp)

>>2503690ayrt and I take your point, sadly actually attractive men who have both a good face and a good body are so damn hard to come by. Young Tom Welling comes close, picrel. To me, a guy has to have both a strong, muscular body (personally I like them a bit leaner than picrel), but fine and almost delicate features – big eyes, nice full lips, clear cheeks, not "blocky" or "rugged" or "Chadlike" (moid cope for being walled imo).
No. 2503700
File: 1745896192222.jpeg (122.96 KB, 1080x1625, lets-discuss-the-female-gaze-v…)

Which one do you hate the most? Botched "elf" prince, depressed hideous dad or ugly ass hell line cook?
No. 2503705
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>>2503696Apparently my stepdad looked a lot like this guy when he was younger. My sister talks about how all her friends had a crush on him but he morphed into a kevin sorbo variation before he met my mom, who is she is very attracted to
No. 2503745
>>2503730>>2489483>do not try to defend ugly men ITT, go to unconventional male attractions to discuss uggos you likeThis is what I'm referring to, as in you (or anon
>>2503712 ) might get banned for breaking thread rules for posting that you're okay with a moid getting fat as he ages or losing hair, as this is considered "defending ugly men" kek
No. 2503858
File: 1745909780423.webp (69.54 KB, 640x933, i3k6r10w6hta1.jpg)

>>2503700i remember seeing a different version of this chart and i don't know which is worse
No. 2503885
>>2503883I'm clearly not media literate enough for this shit, the only moids I recognized were
>Legolas>Pedro Pascal>Jack Black>Moid from that other LOTR spinoff And they are all like 65 years old so I assume this is GenX taste. I know Pedro Pascal is supposedly popular with zoomers but who? I never met a woman who actually is into him, I think it's purely psyop.
>markiplierIs that the one that looks like fat Keanu Reeves?
No. 2503921
File: 1745917724803.jpg (397.96 KB, 1200x1800, Orlando_Bloom_at_the_2024_Toro…)

>>2503899Oh boy. I remember hearing that there was a popular manga or webtoon or something based on Markiplier, but I never looked into who he is because I don't follow twitch/gamer moids online (if that's not what he is, sorry). But turns out it's fart Keanu Reeves, who was walled in like 2005 anyway. I know there's no accounting for taste but can't women find moids who aren't fat/haggard/old to put in their elf prince/line cook compilations? I thought Legolas was semi-cute in LOTR when I was in middle school in like 2003, but I don't think that media is even relevant anymore. He looks like picrel now.
No. 2504072
File: 1745934067297.jpg (Spoiler Image,96.29 KB, 889x1024, 1745855188526364.jpg)

Alright im gonna ask y'all dont give me shit for this because racism aside this image does hit on a point.
Men have been bitching that the average woman doesnt find the average man attractive but thats based on dating site data and studies showed that men overestimate their attractiveness (we are not shocked lol) but also most moids on dating sites are awful and theres more than women on there.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-thinkI was annoyed that people, especially women, were being nice to this sack of shit
>>2497957 (why is he even allowed to tour college campuses?!) but he said the quiet part out loud- in one video he states the issue is that
women will go for the best they can get but that means a lot of lower tier men get left out yeah and bitch? Thats nature. He's trying to
humble women so they will pair with uggos like him. He also insists he has 3 side chicks on top of "his main women" but people in the comments still calling him gay. IDK I cant see any woman wanting to be with this manchild even if he does have money.
No. 2505033
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>>2503015>>2502665Why are straight men incapable of being femgazey? why do they always have to ruin it with pedo and daddydom shit? you can have the hottest body(in this case i find him too roided but whatever) but if you do the whole daddy's kitten discord groomer shit it instantly dries my pussy.
No. 2506046
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No. 2506527
File: 1746130175963.jpg (417.03 KB, 1080x1984, 1000014015.jpg)

One thing I love to see online is everyone always shitting on how dogshit ugly Benny Blanco looks. I've never seen so much unity among women and girls constantly shitting on his looks kek. Makes me have a little hope. Now, if we could raise their standards…
No. 2506843
>>2505035Neither shirtless moids nor moids dressed 'slutty' are feeling degraded when they do it, the latter do it because they associate it with women and they want to degrade and mock women. The shit moids actually find degrading is women laughing at or ignoring them, not sexualizing them.
>>2506527Speaking of degrading this is so degrading and pathetic, I wonder what happened to Selena Gomez to make her like this. Imagine not only acting desperate to date a subhuman looking moid like this but also him bragging about your desperation to make himself feel better in public. This is why women should never give ugly moids a chance, they will feel smug about it and use it to boost their own egos and throw whatever women were nice to them under the bus in the process, humiliating the women who give them a chance.
No. 2507928
>>2507809>Jojo Siwa is now straightWait what? Right after that 'I'm redefining queer culture I'm making queer music a thing' music video?
>meanwhile it feels as if I have been threatened with "you're gonna hit the wall soon!" since nearly a decade already.Don't worry, you're not going to hit the wall anywhere near as early as any moid. Most women unless they get incredibly sick age gracefully and remain beautiful, look like themselves with a few wrinkles and graying hair while male skulls balloon to double in size and their facial features melt. You're gonna be okay.
No. 2508196
>>2508194You said 'don't do it' to a nonna trying to date hotter men, so what are you saying?
>>2508177Have you ever met someone who says he's attractive? I haven't.
No. 2508208
File: 1746226518016.jpg (135.89 KB, 1600x900, keanu-reeves-alexandra-grant-1…)

>>2508197Some people want to date and have relationships, and it's better to date an attractive person if so.
>>2508201They are retarded lmao, Selena Gomez would never have had a career in the first place if she wasn't pretty, but then she (and her fans) are all supposed to act like looks don't matter and seal clap while she settles down with some creature from the black lagoon? Would anyone be saying this if it was a hot moid and some hideous woman with less fame than him? Remember when Keanu Reeves announced he was dating that woman (who was like 9years younger than him I think) who was just some normie and all the moids started screeching she was too ugly and old for him?
No. 2508987
>>2507809I also feel like I've been called old basically my entire 20's. I was 23 thinking I was already too old and if you're a woman you're called old for basically 90% of your life, even if you look the same while the men around you are all balding and have wrinkles already.
>>2508234It should be the other way around considering how terribly most men age. Most men should be like 5-10 years younger than the woman to compensate if they're gonna do age gaps.
>>2508360Keanu is way past his prime in terms of looks and it's annoying how people act like he's still at the peak because men age like wine or whatever (lol). He didn't age that poorly compared to other men but he was definitely way better looking when he was younger. His beard and short hair also sucks and makes him look worse, especially in that picture.
No. 2509087
File: 1746292372573.jpg (201.86 KB, 1195x1131, oh please.jpg)

I've yet to see any woman do this with this shooter the moids really want this to be real.
No. 2509090
>>2509087I've seen women draw and write Eric and Dylan fucking before I've ever even seen ONE bitch talk about this Patrick faggot, and Eric and Dylan were
high schoolers.
No. 2509092
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>>2509087It’s so weird that I’ve only seen moids thirst for the 2025 chud KEK. Even with the first chud they couldn’t stop making fanart of him. Moids need to stop projecting onto everyone else.
No. 2509159
File: 1746294960850.jpeg (175.32 KB, 1236x1500, IMG_1910.jpeg)

>>2508987Keanu aged well in comparison to other moids in Hollywood, but he is still a moid at the end of the day. Glorifying him for taking better care of himself than his contemporaries and their addict filler faces is just the bare minimum.
No. 2509165
File: 1746295030007.jpeg (143.74 KB, 1240x775, IMG_1911.jpeg)

>>2509159He also looks closer to his age without the facial hair. That's doing heavy lifting
No. 2509186
File: 1746295930908.jpeg (360.16 KB, 1814x2700, IMG_1912.jpeg)

>>2509173When men age into butch lesbians
No. 2509263
File: 1746298336206.jpg (Spoiler Image,194.81 KB, 392x332, what the fuck.jpg)

>>2509115>jobsNo
>live with their parentsYes
>boyfriendsNo, they're saving themselves for Him
>how do these faggots socialize with males?They don't.
You're supposed to think the woman is an ugly anorexic and the moid next to her is really handsome and you can't tell he's ugly because he's too blurry.
No. 2509667
>>2509263there are 2-3 anons
tourists who consistently insult every womans appearance as if they are better
No. 2509678
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>>2509165>>2509186He seems like he aged well for a moid but when you compare to older pics it's just a tragedy. I'd actually say the other guy aged better, maybe because he wasn't as good looking to begin with.
No. 2509785
File: 1746314009795.jpeg (59.5 KB, 392x500, IMG_1927.jpeg)

>>2509686NTA but with the right styling, I thought he was handsome in the 90s-00s
No. 2510172
File: 1746332570096.jpg (141.92 KB, 1080x1585, 1000004266.jpg)

>>2509263Luigifags are living proof that mass delusion is real. He looks like a fucking Neanderthal.
No. 2510190
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>>2510172Why would you use this picrel???
No. 2510204
File: 1746334223688.gif (8.71 MB, 540x400, 1000002637.gif)

I've been debating on posting this but….
Can anons tell me if finding him attractive is also a part of the psyop?
No. 2510215
File: 1746335314110.jpeg (48.53 KB, 453x720, IMG_4459.jpeg)

>>2510204Tbh His model was better looking in the older games. Movie Wesker and RE:5 Wesker are def uggo tho
No. 2510226
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>>2510215You are right the movie version and the old grandpa version in the RE4 remake are ugly as fuck.
For some reason though I only find the blonde 2009 middle aged version of him hot and I have no idea why and I never even played the game, I just liked the way he looks and talks, what the fuck is wrong with me. That's the only version of him I find attractive too, I find all the other versions ugly except for this one. I have no idea why, I feel like a sperg.
Actually now that im learning more about him by learning the game lore I'm losing attraction to him, he is too evil and gay for me. Like…I didn't know he was THAT evil.
I am going to headcanon him as being less evil and make him semi-submissive for me to cope.
No. 2510250
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>>2510172It’s insane, I think enough had been said about his huge nostrils and face but I also hate how his whole physical composition just screams nebbish mammas boy, the pale skin and weak frame just make me mad and they all worship him like he’s Chad thundercock himself. That thread made me a little bit internally misogynistic I think cause what the hell is wrong with us
No. 2510258
>>2510250Sometimes I feel like I hate other women for being such retarded pickmes but then I remember we have literally been conditioned to lift ugly men's balls for tens of thousands of years in order to avoid being murdered by them so it's not really women's fault. We are all just
victims of evolving alongside 'human' men, and women who resisted moid retardation were literally just killed during their chimpouts, which is why pickme genes are still so prevalent.
No. 2510369
>>2510180They're obviously referring to the visual aspect,
nonnie. Flat male asses smell just as bad but if you had to choose you'd pick the more visually appealing option and I can get behind women liking the sight of ass on a man. It usually means he's fit.
No. 2510548
>>2510180No one said they like the smell of moid farts nonna, but some women are heterosexual or bisexual and like for men's bodies to look fit.
>>2510250>That thread made me a little bit internally misogynistic I think cause what the hell is wrong with usThat's why I can't read the thread. But to be fair I think it's the same handful of anons posting all the unhinged shit in that thread and there have always been some women who are unhealthy obsessed with random ugly/mid moids and there have always been hybristos so you just have to remember that its' not normal for women to be this way.
No. 2510901
File: 1746389946125.jpeg (330.23 KB, 1170x1220, IMG_7073.jpeg)

even moid lions lose their hair. i feel so bad for all the stacy lionesses
No. 2510904
File: 1746390006212.jpeg (94.56 KB, 1051x603, IMG_2307.jpeg)

“Men age like wine” meanwhile your average long term couple
No. 2510924
>>2510901Doesn't this happen when they are super sick and about to be killed by a stronger male lion
>>2510904How do these women not want to kill themselves having to look like they're dating their dad? He was already walled when they got together. I don't understand what mental illness causes this.
No. 2511762
File: 1746458555627.jpg (2.16 MB, 2460x3300, 20250505_172017.jpg)

the big time rush guys in 2025. james was always the most handsome one and he's still handsome. the others weren't known for their looks but they all pretty much look the same other than kendall shaving his head. do you think this is an example of men not ageing badly after 15+ years?
No. 2511889
File: 1746464332947.jpg (Spoiler Image,213.61 KB, 800x1068, gustavo.jpg)

>>2511762>do you think this is an example of men not ageing badly after 15+ years?>Kendallbald with a patchy beard, nose somehow grew longer and crooked; looks like Gustavo
>Jamesstill horsefaced; concealer abuse edition
>Loganbuttchinned Michelinman
>Carlosmale pattern baldness
>bonus: they're all merely in their 30sIf this is an example of men aging well we're fucked sisters
No. 2511898
File: 1746464643080.jpeg (62.8 KB, 544x400, IMG_7519.jpeg)

>>2511889Perks of being an ugly man: You seemingly age better than the pretty ones, because he didn't really get much uglier.
No. 2512088
File: 1746472046039.mp4 (4.57 MB, 720x1280, 1000021697.mp4)

Got this zoomies gitl on my feed and didn't think much of it until I heard this. Men looking better in the past due to economic stability is something that should be explored more
No. 2512219
>>2510250>that thread made me a little bit internally misogynisticThat's kind of how I feel reading a lot of the threads on here and interacting with some of the more retarded anons, ngl. Not like this site is representative of all women and men are still worse but yeah.
>>2510904Sad thing is, most couples I know irl usually the guy already looks like the picture on the right when they start dating.
>>2511762No, this is just the average male aging. I hate that when most men age they automatically stop shaving and grow a shitty beard plus get these lame ass haircuts (when they still have hair, anyways). Hell, a lot of them will do this as soon as they hit 20 even, they don't even need to age or be in their 30s or anything. It's like once they're past being a teenager a switch turns on in their brain that tells them they have to get shorter hair and grow their facial hair to assert that they're a grown man now. They didn't look great in the before picture but it's 100 times better than what they look like now because of the difference in how they were styled.
No. 2512227
>>2512088i actually don't understand her point. she says economic instability is making men bald faster, but then saying they don't have to spend money on hair products? how exactly does the second part relate to the first?
but i do agree, however, a lot of ugly men got to be attractive in the past solely because they dressed nice and yes had a full head of styled hair. men these days be out here in capri shorts and a baggy tshirt and unkempt beards and think any woman should even look at them
No. 2512252
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>>2512245That and that guys are incentivized to not take care of their hair, making balding more common. It might partly be the reason why the broccoli haircut is so common now
that and that it haircut is likely influenced by black culture, It's pretty obvious that it's meant to mimic a low taper fade. Its is better suited for black dudes, but male fashion is just so homogenous now No. 2512440
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>>2512381>dreads>the epitome of not taking care of hairKinda a weird example imo, they are only low maintenance in comparison to other black hairstyles. If anything, balding and alopecia are usually caused by the retwist being too tight.
No. 2512549
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>>2512481Honestly that picrel isn't even that strange, I've seen ones IRL that tight. That's less of a moid thing, and more of a loctician issue.
Speaking of bad hairstyles, I live in Florida, and I see dudes with these ugly wicks all the time, I can't take a single trip to Publix without seeing some moid with palm tree dreads
No. 2512633
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Does this belong here? This just really reminds me of the media trope where the guy is ugly as hell, but as a hot as fuck wife. All of the female protags in like Fatal Frame are pretty and cute, meanwhile that random faggot James from Silent Hill just looks like any kind of fucker you'd see on the street kek
No. 2512655
>>2512633Sometimes I think males make games like this kek:
Choose your fighter!
>Girl I want to skinwalk>Divorced man based on my dad No. 2512697
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>>2512633Because men are incapable of making human female characters, they have to be waifubait first. Art really reflects how men see women.
No. 2512702
>>2512697Oh look, it's One Piece!
God that shit is infuriating. I can't think about it too long or it honestly starts to hurt my feelings. Like how Disney thinks the only face a (good and not evil) female should have is huge eyes and a tiny button nose. Men will never, EVER have the right to complain about beauty standards, they get so much leeway and we're crushed into submission by 24/7 messaging about how there is only one acceptable way for us to look.
No. 2512726
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>>2512697>>2512702this is probably an unpopular opinion but the image specifically has more to do with you negatively viewing yourself and other women more than it has to do with men sexualizing women. the average man sees the average woman as attractive AT MINIMUM. most of the time the woman will be viewed as hot for one reason or another, whether its face or body or both, there will be some factor they like. when it comes to other men, they view themselves more objectively for better or for worse… they can tell what makes men unattractive or ugly or interesting, so this causes a lot of variety. a woman has to be so specifically ugly or fat in some way for them to even view her as unattractive, that's why the token ugly girl always looks so comical (to women). anywho, women view each other objectively/harshly, however you want to put it, and women also view men objectively/harshly. so when you complain about what is essentially "another hot woman" in media, you're expecting men to go out of their way to specifically cast someone they would find so ugly, essentially rewire their brains to find women ugly the way women find men and other women ugly. the fat ginger in horizon… nobody liked her. women, men, nobody, because they fatified and uglified the real life model used for the character just for the sake of "ugly women in games" diversity. basically, when men find a woman attractive, women will either agree or think she's not all that. but when men find a woman ugly, women will also find her very terribly ugly too.
No. 2512733
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>>2512726>the average man sees the average woman as attractive AT MINIMUM. most of the time the woman will be viewed as hot for one reason or another, whether its face or body or both, there will be some factor they like.Men fucking anything that moves doesnt mean they find those women attractive. Men fuck fucking trannies for god's sake. You are confussing moids being opportunistic with men actually finding women attractive. Men get grossed out by fucking body hair, they have insanely high standards for women that dont apply to themselves or other men. Also aloy looks normal and leagues better than the moids from the same game. Hilarious that moids find her ugly when she and the other female characters still look miles cuter than the putrid moids in it.
No. 2512742
>>2512741Well actually she does look like thyroid moonface.
However what bothers me more is not that she is ""ugly"" but that her face reminds me of my school bullies.
No. 2512760
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>>2512757>thinking aloy is on the same level as kratos and arthur morganok pickme chan, i see starving yourself for moids has clearly reduced your grey matter. Go eat ice cubes or something, bone rattler.
No. 2512799
>>2512797You are the only one seething over a fictional woman. Like damn your life must be sad if you think this
>>2512760 is fat.
No. 2512803
>>2512633The female protagonist is meant to be the woman the player (assumed by companies to be a man based on demographics) is saving through gameplay. She has to be sexually appealing so that the player feels incentive to save her. The male protagonist is meant to be the stand-in for the player (assumed to be a man), so he has to be generic and dull so that it's easy for the player to "become" the character.
When you see a female protagonist, you have to ask: is the audience meant to be mostly male or mostly female? If the audience is meant to be mostly male, then the character exists to sexually appeal to them. If the audience is meant to be mostly female, then the character exists to be relatable.
Hopefully that makes sense.
No. 2512806
>>2512726>the image specifically has more to do with you negatively viewing yourself and other women more than it has to do with men sexualizing women>pic is a row of wasp waisted big boobied same faced women in revealing clothing contrasted with a row of literal ogresYou're also ignoring the fact that women design male characters resembling the top row deformities literally all the time to the point where seeing a good looking male character is rare yet
still seen as boring and uncreative therefore highly scrutinized.
No. 2512814
File: 1746519216358.jpg (38.19 KB, 516x516, 1771865.jpg)

>me watching this infight go down while being moonfaced and skelly at the same time
but really, sometimes fat just travels weirdly because the character's body looks average weight despite the face. also i thought moonfaces were considered youthful looking. i have a feeling if that character had a sharp or long face anon would call her "man faced" instead
No. 2512821
File: 1746520009129.png (622.25 KB, 640x634, 1000035522.png)

The fact it's even a cause for debate when a female character is ugly, or even just not sexualised enough, is proof enough that the psyop exists.
No. 2512863
File: 1746523664474.jpeg (Spoiler Image,1.08 MB, 3703x2298, IMG_2984.jpeg)

So desperate to the point he’s trying to do a psyop of himself
No. 2512866
File: 1746523824027.jpeg (40.3 KB, 554x554, IMG_6081.jpeg)

>>2509263It pisses me off how they talk about women in those threads. Everyone is apparently a fat tranny BPD anorexic compared to him. Like first of all no man is worth behaving this way for but especially not Turkish!Remy.
Picrel Luigi’s female looksmatch (eyebrows still too light)
No. 2512881
>>2512837Roid abuse. All the signs.
>>2512863Oh, "Geggy," you should be way more worried about that shitty comb-over than your bad body composition.
No. 2513044
File: 1746538473753.jpg (611.65 KB, 774x1251, hshsjs.jpg)

>>2513038Sameanon but not only he is older uglier and fatter than her but also is an alcoholic according to their admission
No. 2513306
File: 1746548762232.jpeg (Spoiler Image,263.94 KB, 829x746, IMG_9191.jpeg)

What percentage of women would you say are hybristos? At first I thought like.1% but now I am thinking at least 15%
No. 2513716
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on the topic of how shitty men dress and how ugly it makes them. i went to a convention recently wearing a dress and putting on nice makeup and all the men were dressed like slobs, i was like why do i even bother. not that i was there to get a bf but it feels pointless to get all nicely dressed in a world where at least 50% of the population thinks it's fine to go out in their pajamas
No. 2513896
File: 1746574823932.jpg (163.4 KB, 1080x608, 1000029868.jpg)

I know it's a meme and the men on the right are not actors, and that actors were always just a small % of all men, but it's amazing how much more attractive were the big male leads in older movies in comparison to male leads in modern movies. I'm a big movie buff so I've seen a lot of movies from 50s and 60s and the difference is stagerring. You can compare like top 6 actors from that time to top 6 actors from our time and it's like heaven and hell. The 50s and 60s mogg even 90s in my opinion, because I always considered Leo to be ugly and not even a good twink, so what else did the 90s had except him and Pitt and Depp? Nothing. It's not just about grooming and the fact the male stars did it better in the 50s and 60s, those men literally had better facial bone structures and better hair and voices and bodies, without roids at that
btw it always weirds me out that according to studies modern men have less testosterone than the men in the 50s-70s, but at the same time the average height of men increased over the years. How is this possible if testosterone influences hormones responsible for height?
No. 2514095
>>2513896It has a bit to do with nepotism. When Hollywood was just beginning, they brought in the best, the brightest, and the most attractive stars because they were the ones that audiences were most interested in seeing perform. As Hollywood developed, and time passed, these OG stars began having ugly children and due to the family ties those ugly children started getting roles based on nepotistic connection rather than talent or beauty. Of course there are new actors every year that get discovered, but the majority of the film industry sustains itself on old connections and familial ties.
>so what else did the 90s had except him and Pitt and Depp? Nothing. It's not just about grooming and the fact the male stars did it better in the 50s and 60sThe times are different. Pop culture is always changing, Pitt and Depp were great for the 90s grungey Gen X atmosphere.
No. 2514352
File: 1746613815410.gif (3.67 MB, 540x396, IMG_1026.gif)

My bf is 17 and I’m 21 (before moralfags come after me it’s legal and who cares he’s a moidlet). He is in his absolute prime and he looks like a doll with huge round eyes, long eyelashes, a tiny nose, full lips, soft golden skin, and long beautiful curly hair. He has such a soft and cute face he literally looks like a meitu filter sometimes. He also has a 7 inch perfect dick and I’m cherishing this before he hits the wall in 3 years. Get a younger bf nonas, do what the scrotes do already with us
No. 2514361
>>2514318I just saw vid related and wanted to post it.
>uwu he doesn't hurt anybody, why do you have to be so mean???1. he hurts my eyes and heart, 2. if he wants to be fat and naked he can do that in his freetime, this bitch get's paid for this shit!
It feels so hopeless anons, even China is falling…
Plus it's really obvious that he's a fag and wants an uwu girly little mermaid experience, they can't just let us have one thing…
No. 2514434
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He's making moids seethe so hard kek, this is literally the minimum effort
No. 2514448
>>2514434Sorry if this is off topic and belongs more in the fandom thread but FUCK FUJO PICKMES.
I can't search anything about him, the main female protagonist or gta6 on tiktok without the comments being by demented fujos in the comments wishing he was fucking men, lying that he is bi,treating the female protagonist like she is a threat etc and many of them have profile pics of kpop boys.
Listen i like yaoi too but I still don't understand why so many fujos are misogynistic. Instead of being happy that we finally have a female protagonist in gta they are seething instead. It's like fujos want only men to exist in media and for all women to be hidden. fujos are like Muslim level pickmes.
(fujosperging outside of containment) No. 2514473
>>2514471Yeah that's what I said at the end
>Goes for most men not just them, but still.But I'm portuguese and it's so bad that I mostly dated foreigners.
No. 2514484
File: 1746628096692.jpg (779.34 KB, 2017x2206, 1000028835.jpg)

>>2514448Not to defend fujos but imo most people (not just men) are shit at writing female characters. And tbh if I have to choose between media with compelling male characters and shitty female characters OR media with only compelling male characters and no female characters at all, I prefer the later. I can count the female characters in fiction I like on my fingers, and they're still not as layered and deep and conflicted and nuanced like the best male characters, and they don't have compelling character journeys and interesting conflicts and drama that isn't revolved around romance. Unfortunately, the male represents the "universal human experience" in art. Meanwhile the female is still mostly definited by how society views females; concerned mostly with relationships, children, caring for others etc. I don't care about that stuff. I love Revolutionary Girl Utena, it has GREAT female characters. Still in my top. And yet, the core of the whole drama is the female being the scapegoat for the male and how the female tries to break free from female stereotypes… yes, it's great and more revolutionary than most female centered media. But the characters are still not on the same level as the best male characters. And one of the pivotal elements in it is still female sexual trauma and sexual coercion, like it's literally integrated into female identity and I can't escape seeing females being sexually abused in one way or another even in fiction. Males almost never get sexually abused in fiction (I can think of Berserk, where the male protag is raped as a child). It's like females can't have adventures and fight for ideals or power or freedom without being a rape bait at some point or wanting romance or kids… nope, not even in fiction. I don't see many female characters with interesting conflicts or motivations like for example Kreia in KOTOR 2 (she literally wants to destroy the Force, essentially kill god because she wants people to have free will. AND on top of that she's super old so moids don't sexualize her weeeew). So yeah. I prefer to watch media focused on males rather than media with nice male characters and shitty female ones because with that second option I am constantly being reminded of "what could've been" and I constantly compare the male and female struggle, weight, depth etc. And it pains me. I write my own shit for myself with female characters I would like to see for that reason. Even I noticed I'm not free from being biased, it's really the best to just write the character like you would write a man and then just switch sex
No. 2515879
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>>2514434>bearded>small tits>hairy like an ape>built like a fridge>shitty ghetto fashionno, thank you. Make it look like this and i will praise your slop, rockstar. That or bring back manhunt or make bully 2.
No. 2515884
File: 1746683369914.gif (1.72 MB, 480x270, 0f732afbc071dc3ef76a099928414a…)

>>2514434>male gaze idea of a 'chad' >its some old, bloated, sweaty, sunburned, redneck roidpig with a haggard face and ugly beard and comical looking absMen have absolutely no idea what women want.
No. 2516106
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>>2513896I'm marathoning young Heston movies and this shit makes me fucking insane
I would go rabid and climb him like a tree No. 2516123
File: 1746703113212.png (1.19 MB, 736x914, IMG_5784.png)

Just a general FYI: threadpic is horrible. This isn’t meant to be a demoralization thread. We need hot guys thread pics to 1. Set standards 2. Generate seethe from lurkers who are forced to scroll past it every time.
No. 2516215
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>>2516138>>2516165Then I propose we do a straw poll or such towards the end of the thread. And stick to guidelines of under 25 and full head of hair as a baseline.
No. 2516255
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>>2516215I propose we use mogging pictures instead.
No. 2516494
File: 1746726137259.png (4.65 MB, 2500x2772, ladyerectiledysfunction.png)

>r/ladyboners
I know reddit women are the most mentally cucked women out there, but they can't be serious with this shit, right?
No. 2516730
File: 1746732859287.webm (2.03 MB, 640x360, based.webm)

Forever my queen… Look at this pathetic attention-seeking (probably half-gay) gymlet repeatedly try and fail to get her approval, hope he cried himself to sleep over his face being considered ugly kek
No. 2516746
>>2516343They look like the average frat faggot.
>>2516494>geriatric whose hair is falling off>geriatric>70 year old bald with beard demon>living ballsack>geriatric>70 year oldSo why do incels exist again? Males can just be impotent from old age, bald, and fat and still women will want them. No wonder moids say a man’s life begins after 30 and be peaks at 50. Women just playing along left and right.
No. 2516998
File: 1746742592070.jpg (727.11 KB, 1080x1866, Screenshot_20250509_001423.jpg)

Imagine an equally unattractive woman posting this
No. 2517049
File: 1746746550829.jpg (54.36 KB, 1200x632, 1000002764.jpg)

>>2516494Ok so this is something that may be too niche and I hope I make sense. But I noticed this subgenre of ugly man psyoping or should I call it ugly men psyop WITHIN a ugly men psyop where they will only allow walled men but they will still end up discriminating against the rare walled men that actually look or looked put together by only posting the ugly ones. So it turns into this circle withing a circle where only the ugliest and plain toast walled men are allowed to be posted or praised.
For example here is a picture of Keannu Reeves when he used to be 40, he still looked good back then despite being walled yet you would never see a picture like that getting posted to those type of sub reddit because it's ugly men central. The ugly male psyop goes so deep that it's not just about age but about appearance too so even the rare walled moids who dont look walled dont get posted.
No. 2517061
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>>2516998KEKKK nona, maybe this belongs in the Reddit hate thread but I thought the whole post was hilarious. All this dooming over being single and he won’t date a woman on or around the same level as him physically. The comments are all kissing his ass too! “You have a nice smile,” “Jared Padalecki vibes” etc. Pathetic.
No. 2517079
>>2517049He's 40 here? Damn, he looks like today's 23 year old moids.
>>2517061>nice smileHe's meant to be smiling?
No. 2517088
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>>2516998Can you imagine the retard screeching if even an attractive woman said something like this on Reddit of all places.
No. 2517111
>>2517088Rules for thee, but not for me!!
Moids harrass women constantly with the whole ‘lOWEr YoUr sTANdards or else you’ll die alone’ bs. Like that’s even a threat kek. I’d rather be alone then be chained to a lazy, greasy, balding, barely human-looking uggo + 0 benefits.
No. 2517414
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>>2517116>>2516494Decided to browse the top posts of all time on that subreddit and holy shit, the psyop is so real. 10-11 years ago, the top posts were fandom-famous cuties (Jensen Ackles, the various generic Marvel moids, etc.) and random hot models (cute young Native guys with long hair, random young Asian models/actors, etc. In the past 10 years or so, however, literally all of the top posts that aren't virtue-signaling reddit crap like Peter Dinklage (lol) are about muh AGED LIKE A FINE WINE walled scrotes. Not even mid-40s walled, like actual geriatric scrotes. Picrel is from the top posts of ALL TIME. We used to have standards.
No. 2517485
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>>2517414Sorry
nonnie but JDM and James MacAvoy are really sexy. JDM is rugged and tall and has a deep voice and rides motorbikes, and MacAvoy was a heart throb from Atonement. The others I agree are ugly moids but I do see and feel the sex appeal with these two men, and find it hard to consider them "ugly" in the eyes of a psyop. I will admit MacAvoy looked better when he was younger but I think he's aged ok, considering he's scottish and they usually age like utter shit.
(defending ugly men) No. 2517514
File: 1746765712447.jpeg (128.03 KB, 1080x1043, 133177.jpeg)

>>2517500>At least a lot of the older scrotes were hot at one point.even this guy? i don't know anon, "a lot" is a stretch. probably around two or so but still, why don't people post their younger pics then?
No. 2517519
File: 1746765911962.jpeg (48.87 KB, 680x599, Nutmeg.jpeg)

>>2517514…I mean i think he looks decent in this picture.
No. 2517524
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>>2517519guess i'll never understand. he looked pugfaced and somehow still oldish even when young. there's just something off with his eyes and lips
No. 2517528
File: 1746766743415.png (3.22 MB, 2688x1216, moids sexuality.png)

I have been thinking about the differences between women who like unconvetional men vs men who like ''unconventional'' women. For starters, when men say they like unconventional traits in women, they almost always mean obviously conventional attractive women with exaggerated body parts that are already considered desireable in women(tits, ass, legs). However, those ''vanilla'' men, do share traits with men who genuinely have a fetish for unconventional women(think deathfat tier women), and its that their fetish is a way to humilliate, control and knock women down a peg.
Think about it, a lot of women with big tits(especially in anime) are considered ''fat'' and therefore ''unconventional''. Why is that? Men are the ones that created small boob insecurity in women because they fetishize boobs so much. The whole boob implant industry exists because of these insecurities. Women dont need big boobs, its purely cosmetic. So why is it that when women get big tits(natural or implants) they get humilliated, called fat and compared to farm animals like cows? obviously, its because the male mating strategy is centered on humilliating and demeaning women until they are forced to comply with their beauty standards, and then, so these women dont attain power over men(and therefore exclude ugly low quality men from their dating pool) these women are attacked AGAIN and compared to farm animals like cows. I lost count of the amount of times i have seen women's breasts get called udders by coomers, or big titty anime girls being put in cow bikinis. They do the same thing feeders do but on a smaller scale, feeders love seeing women grow bigger and more helpless, they like the idea of women's desireable traits(boobs, ass legs) growing to the point they are barely recognizable anymore. Their sexuality is one and the same, the only difference is the degree of sadism involved.
This doesnt apply only to big breated or thick women, flat women are constantly targetted by coomers to the point where there is a whole fetish called ''boob envy'' where flat girls are shown to be jealous of big breasted women. This applies to basically every unconventional trait in women, men will only fetishize it as a way to humilliate women and make them feel superior in comparison. They like the idea of women being insecure and vulnerable but still beautiful. There is not a single trait in women that doesnt get fetishized by moids and turned into an insecurity.
Now think about how unconventional taste in men develops in women. Its always as a way to uplift the ugly moid while putting down conventionally attractive men and the women who like them. I have lost count of the amount of times fatfag women claim fatties are better than bishies because they have ''meat in their bodies, look like actually mature men, dont look like 'sickly' teenage womanly skeletons''. You never see those women put their actual lardasses in cow print bikinis, they are never bullied by other male characters for being 'fat', they are not depicted as having insecurities, they are depicted as ''cooler'' and more ''manly'' than the conventionally attractive male characters. They not only shit on the attractive men, but also on the women who dont have corrupted pickme taste. Men are never bullied for liking conventionally attractive women, but women are always being nagged by pickmes for liking sexy bishies instead of ''realistic'' ugly moids. The use of misogynistic language to denote that attractive men arent ''manly'' enough and women who like them must be lesbians is also important in the argument of the pickme nlog fatfag. Ask a fatfag pickme to explain why fatties or other ugly traits in men are ''attractive'' without putting down conventionally attractive men and they will explode. They are incapable of explaining why they like ugly men instead of conventionally attractive ones with putting down attractive men or women because their taste steems from low self esteem and misogyny and a false sense of supperiority over normal women(nlogism). Its why women take it so personally when you shit on the ugly moids they like, because they see it as a reflection of themselves and their ideals. When you tell a pickme that their objectively ugly husbando or bf is fat and ugly, they see red because to them their husbando/bf is superior to those ''ugly sickly unmanly bishies/hot men'' and them being considered ugly/fat means they dont have a false sense of superiority anymore. Its why women even here constantly sperg about how beaty in men is subjective and you are actually boolin THEM for shitting on those traits in men. It always goes back to THEM and not the moids themselves because they just see it as an extention of themselves. Its pathetic and its why i will never support the ''let women like whatever they like you booly!!!!'' narrative, because it always mean putting down attractive men and women they like them down in favour of ugly moids and their pickmes.
No. 2517530
>>2517514>those nasolabial foldstopkek anon is being blinded by the personality(in this case fake because its an actor scrote) psyop again, poor
nonny.
No. 2517590
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>>2517528>Fat characters>All have slight “chub” if you can even call it that or just have big breats, butts, and thighs. The fact that none of them are actually fat is so harrowing. I don’t expect coomers or anime fags to have realistic standards but good god. Meanwhile, I watch women scramble to defend ugly, fat, or old moids no problem. What circle of hell is this
No. 2517596
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>>2516579Ok but who the fuck is using this sub cause I posted a famous slightly alt musician when he was in his prime that most women find attractive and was/is being teased for being a prettyboy and my post fluctuateed between 1 to negative up votes
No. 2517600
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>>2517596>Actually attractive men are downvoted>who the fuck is using this subI think you already know the answer.
No. 2517626
>>2516106Obviously the dysgenic creature on the right is far uglier like most current hollywood scrotes, but Heston looks sooo old there, I would have guessed 45 at least. Apparently men did not age well back then either.
>>2516494I will never not believe it's moids posting this shit. Even Reddit women couldn't find these men attractive.
>>2516721I don't get the 'men have to be funny' thing either. Most men are not funny and even if they were, why would that be even in your top 20 criteria for a partner? There are a million things more important in a relationship than whether a guy is good at making jokes. I have to assume women say this because they realize their boyfriends/exes have no actual redeeming qualities so they fish around for some undisprovable compliment they can give the moid to justify dating him. Humor is subjective so people just have to believe them that they find their moid funny, unlike other qualities like being attractive, smart, kind, successful, etc. that you either have or don't. Moids don't feel threatened by that answer either because they all (incorrectly 95% of the time) think they're funny.
>>2516998That cat looks horrified kek
No. 2517642
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>>2517596I wish you could still sort by controversial
>>2517600simonona? No. 2517660
>>2517600why did you use cry of fear fanart itt
>>2517642i would never. also ew
No. 2517661
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>>2517649damn bitch love yourself
No. 2517665
>>2517661shotas>haggots
he just needs some botox and accutane
(bait) No. 2517672
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Oof
No. 2517702
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Presented without a comment
>>2517672This has to be a tif
No. 2517732
>>2517731This is about looks
nonny, we are not going to lower our standards and psyop ourselves into finding men in their 30s hot because you feel uncomfortable with young men.
No. 2517743
File: 1746789491730.gif (9.71 MB, 540x451, 1000028435.gif)

>>2517626>but Heston looks sooo old thereI think he looked his age tbh, I don't think he looked older than modern 35 year olds. Looking rugged is not the same as "modern" old male look, like balding and bloating which makes the dysgenic modern male face even more soy looking than it was before
No. 2517763
>>2517743I am in my 30s and most of the 35 year olds I know do not look like that. My dad looked similar to that when he was in his late 40s. I legitimately never would have guessed that man is only a couple years older than me. It may well be because of the higher male T levels back then, since testosterone does age men a lot. I would be really concerned seeing wrinkles like that on a moid in his 30s. 'Rugged' just means weathered, aka aged.
>>2517649This on the other hand is an insane take and has to be bait.
No. 2517787
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>>2517485Even if these men were handsome, it would be universally true that they would have been more handsome when they were younger. But, because of the psyop that puts a defcon 1 priority on pampering ugly old men's feelings, pickmes on reddit decide to make virtue-signalling posts about how ackshually James McAvoy looks better with crows feet, a receding hairline, and a flabby beer gut!!! What I'm saying is that convincing women that old, walled men are better looking than their fit, virile young counterparts is a huge part of the psyop.
Picrel is a young JDM - per se more attractive by any metric than the pic you posted. Would you really want a graying, stubbly pube beard and massive nasiolabial folds and jowls up in your face while kissing JDM, or the soft lips and smooth, clear cheeks in picrel? Be real.
No. 2517803
>>2517702Kek, the retarded moid assumption that the
only traits in the ancient world that would have been desirable were strength and size. Lean, trim people are much more swift and agile, which obviously confers much greater advantages than mere strength. And people from cultures that survive primarily off the land might have a little bit of muscle but are primarily lean and lanky from lots of running and climbing. But moids don't want to hear that because they know that running is harder than sitting on their asses in an air-conditioned gym lifting the same weight for 45 minutes.
No. 2518536
>>2517776Yes I know, I'm saying 35 year old men I know look nothing like that. My dad looked like that when he was around 48-49 in my college graduation photos, I don't know what else to tell you nonna. 30-something year old women look much younger than 30-something year old men, but 30-something year old men should not look that old. I know we laugh at how zoomer men have eaten so many microplastics or estrogens in the water that many of them are balding and bloated in their 20s, but it's still not actually normal for mid-30s men to look like my dad when I was in college. I don't live in the US so I think I'm not used to male physiques being all that fat at this age either, his physique looks normal-to-bulky to me.
I mean I see plenty of hideous programmer looking soyboy moids around, but the ones who aren't hideous and are under 40 look much much younger than him. It may be because of testosterone, it may be due to environmental conditions at that time, but I do think many actors in the 50s-70s (including this one) looked way older than their age, at least by modern standards. He has decent bone structure but very deep wrinkles and a really big head which tends to happen with aging in men, as well as a fairly advanced hairline and thin hair.
>even modern twinks who look good in their early 20s will hit the wall and twink deathI think it depends what you mean. Many men with more feminine/androgynous faces actually age better than 'chads' with very masculinized faces, but it really depends on the specific facial structure and also their build, how fit they are, etc. A lot of the moids that look the best in later life imo are ones with distinctive bone structure, larger non-hunter eyes, fuller lips, and slimmer faces, but a square or pronounced jaw. The extremes of very 'cute' young moids and very 'chad' looking young moids both seem to age badly in most cases. The chads experience too much skull expansion and get tiny beady eyes while the 'cute' moids look bloated and jowly and lose their bone structure.
>>2517803Lean and lanky athletic types have plenty of muscle, it's just not large-looking muscle. Hypertrophy training is different than both powerlifting-type strength training and the sorts of calisthenics, cardio-based exercise etc. that give rise to that lanky lean body type mainly in that it targets muscle size over strength AND agility. Moids are retarded if they think large muscle size is generally indicative of how fit men are or how well they can 'protect' women or whatever, they are obsessed with having large muscles because they show even through clothes and draw attention while most fit athletic men look pretty normal in clothing and aren't bursting out of their shirt. It's just so they can preen and show themselves off more on a daily basis, mostly to other men. Women will see a truly fit guy's body when they're being intimate, the moid doesn't need to constantly be showing off his roid muscles to other moids.
>>2518196I agree the photos and styling do a lot of the heavy lifting but I also think there are hormonal issues in men today, possibly caused by food, environmental toxins, etc. and also modern men are usually less fit and leanness usually makes male faces more attractive. Even 'thin' moids these days will often be doughy whereas back then there was a strong emphasis on physical education for young high school/college aged moids. Many of them went through military training. Even in my parents' generation the government made all the men go to the army for 2-3 years (European country) which they don't anymore, so they got a head-start of having to work out daily for at least 2-3 years and some of them would keep up those habits. The retarded facial expressions, hairstyles and clothing also make a huge difference though, moids these days are so undignified. And I truly believe coomerism makes moids ugly and bald.
No. 2518560
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>>2518536>his physique looks normal-to-bulky to meNona clearly hasn't seen how Heston lives rent free in /fit/cels' heads and how they post about him basically every week and lament how the male physique degraded over the years because Heston moggs all modern gymcels without even lifting weights but with stuff like swimming, running and playing tennis, and also being just genetically huge (super wide shoulders and 6'3/190 cm tall)
No. 2518603
>>2514318Kek, I saw this and thought of this thread too.
>male>chinese>physically demanding job>still fatHow? Why? And how come are they being cheered on? Asians were supposed to be better than that.
No. 2518638
>>2518560AYRT and it's true he has a large frame, I meant more just like how muscular/fat/thin he is. Like he's on the fat/muscular side of average. I do think men back then tended to look fitter without roids, but I think it's just because they did more exercise on a regular basis and ate less crap.
>>2518567Kek he's making his shoulders look narrower with the overly bulky traps. I have no idea why gym moids want this hunchback of notre dame look, it's very unappealing.
>>2518608The sub is run by moids nonna.
No. 2518665
>>2518567men in the past had bigger deltoids because the deltoid muscle is highly sensitive to testosterone and men back then had higher T.
also contrary to popular belief, normal-high testosterone stabilizes mens moods and makes them less neurotic. men back then were calmer and had more self control.
nowadays men have low T so they are super neurotic, mentally unstable and inappropriately aggressive. add porn addiction on top of that which fucks with hormone levels and releases prolactin, and it makes modern moids even more unstable and emotionally volatile. its why incels are so aggressive and volatile despite looking like puffy faced sois.
No. 2518671
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>>2518638What are your thoughts on jailbait Heston anon (he was 17 here)…
>>2518665Funny how I felt that that was always the case without knowing the science behind it. There's no way to find a good moid unless he was raised somewhere in the mountains, on homegrown food and without internet access I guess
No. 2518683
>>2518671he isnt my type, but i can recognize hes handsome. you can tell from his facial bones and leanness that he had very high testosterone.
also, my older sister was a big fan of his and wrote to him many years ago when he was still alive, and he sent her the sweetest letter back thanking her for her support.
No. 2518691
File: 1746840185574.jpg (Spoiler Image,1.08 MB, 1080x3354, Collage_20250510_032136.jpg)

Andor spoilers
The actress is with these two guys in Andor. Somehow the younger one might be even worse looking in the show
No. 2518702
>>2518683>my older sister was a big fan of his and wrote to him many years ago when he was still alive, and he sent her the sweetest letter back thanking her for her supportWow that's actually amazing. I'm happy for her, and I totally didn't expect to see a story related to him in a place like this, since he died in like 2008
I like the fact he was married to one woman for over 60 years until his death and actually seemed like a decent human
No. 2518706
>>2518693this is so depressing. why do black women even bother dating white men who are just going to act like
abusive black scrotes anyway.
No. 2518765
>>2518671AYRT and I think he had pretty good facial bone structure in general (not my type but conventionally attractive), but I would have guessed that was a man in his 20s. They really did age faster back then.
>>2518693This couple has probably the worst tiktok content I've ever seen so I'm not surprised. The tiktok itself seems like it's just him pimping her out for the audience. I still feel sorry for her even if she is cowish, the moid is horrifying.
No. 2518772
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>>2518691Also, someone this offensively ugly (it's another character in Andor) shouldn't be allowed to leave the house without a mask on let alone be an actor
No. 2518795
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>>2518765Ok nonas upon repeated examination I admit he looked older than his age kek, I just looked past that because I found him beautiful, like a living statue, especially in Ben Hur. Lucky are those for whom he modeled as an art model before he became a fulltime actor. I like pretty twinks but I think I would still choose him. I think the "novelty" of it plays a role too, because I never saw a (young) man like him irl or on social media, meanwhile twinks are all over the internet. That type of a male died out I guess
No. 2518814
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>>2518795>jaw looks normal again in anon's gif, instead of massiveYeah he just sticks out his lower jaw whenever there's a close shot and stopped doing it as he aged and lost facial volume. So like the male sky ferreira (sucking in cheekbones constantly). I was trying to make sense of how someone's
bone structure could possibly change so much from youth to adulthood and it made no sense until I looked at more images
No. 2518815
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>>2518814Samefag gurning decreases
No. 2518818
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>>2518814Maybe he just struggled with TMJ kek
No. 2518827
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>>2518818Idts he totally resembles
>>2518816 in that gif more than this clever angle
>>2518671 He looks better with his own chin and jawline anyways and did have good shoulders but a lot of that seems like angles too. Usually fitcels are sperging about the degradation of mr. world but here he is the
1950sboo floodpost and it's typical overbuilt trapezius muscles
Idk any of the fitcel phrases, just like present day. I prefer a cute face like picrel/real heston over random wider features. I think a lot of these guys were trying to resemble typical labourer moids who had no interest in acting or showing off to an audience
No. 2518837
>>2518800I think you do sometimes, in Europeans or some North African/Turkish moids or whatever (I have an old moid friend who's a white Tunisian who has very similar facial structure to this and he's in his 40s, he used to date my really hot friend) but sadly a lot of them start balding young. Whatever hormonal issues are happening in North America seem to prevent the leanness that is required for this kind of chiseled look in American moids and a lot of them age really bloated and blobby looking facially, plus a lot of them are fat and it seems like very few moids want to be clean shaven anymore. I have an uncle with that kind of facial structure too and he stayed very fit his whole life but also unfortunately started balding in his early/mid 40s. Seems like you often have to pick either balding or indistinct, soy-looking facial structure (or both) unless you're talking about East/SE Asians.
>>2518827The overbuilt traps are so disgusting every time, they must see it looks bad surely
No. 2518867
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>>2518795Arno Breker traced this
No. 2518871
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>>2518867Is this it again? It looks weird
No. 2518878
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>>2518827>>2518871>>2518867Not into Nazism but I like their male imagery tbh. Men should aspire to be strong and fit and lean, instead of flabby, cheeto addicted gooners.
No. 2518879
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>>2518827He was like the walking giga chad meme
No. 2519249
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what the fuck, on my lolcor????
No. 2519265
>>2519249are you guys
still camping out in random threads to post stuff here? isn't there plenty of content outside the site
No. 2519266
>>2519249What are you reacting to? The show was awful and
it was a relief when his character died bc he did a really good job playing a micro-dosing divorced new age moid and it grossed me out. His new look is revealed after
he leaves hi wife for a woman closer to his daughter's age and this is what the writers believe our simple chimp brains will perceive as "silver fox", bc they keep repeating that. You know, like a psy-op
No. 2520161
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No. 2520261
>>2520161Notice the weirdly desperate aura that always emanates from from posts like these. It's one thing to find haggots attractive but these uggmaidens cannot express it without making a spectacle of how "feral" they make them, not unlike stunted virgins and gendies. Always makes me think of polys kek.
>>2520165Keep your embarrassing confessions to yourself please, this is the UMP thread.
No. 2520671
>>2520371Lol nonna I already reacted to that saying he looks late 40s there and it started a whole argument. I agree with you though.
>>2520376The post was comparing the 2 men at 35 as if Cera had aged worse though, except he's clearly aged better despite being hideous from the beginning. Otherwise why would their ages even need to be mentioned?
No. 2520696
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>>2520671Who the fuck cares how well ugly people age? It’s like saying “wow look how long it took for this piece of literal human excretement to go mouldy? It’s much better than the delicious 5 star meal”
I am getting old myself and I genuinely don’t care if a man has a few crows feet, I just want some actually handsome men instead of deformed anorexic sewer rats or disgusting hobgoblins like this. I think a lot of anons are just disgruntled about how they’ve been treated by pedo scrotes and scorned for turning 25 but this isn’t addressing the root cause of the issue, which is the ugly male psyop. Women are sane and normal and like other people in their age range, we should not aspire to be like men, we should start putting pressure on men not to let themselves age like shit because they’ve been sold a crock of horse shit that they age like “fine wine”. Yes, we don need to acknowledge that all scrotes look better between 18-25, but if they are attractive then they are still attractive when they’re aging. The problem is not the old men, it’s that they’re butt fuck ugly.
No. 2520751
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>>2520671Anon it's basically "the dress". Some anons see michael cera as looking walled, some recognize deliberate efforts to age charlton heston and make him appear more "masculine" to the ruddy-skinned everywoman
No. 2520753
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>>2520751samefag, "the dresS"
No. 2520811
>>2518878why does the "master race" looks deformed
>>2517743i hate his mouthbreathing, 20 IQ expression here. you know he thinks he's soooo hot.
No. 2520841
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>pickme
umm sweaty, being ageist against old men is, like, problematic?? like, go back to tiktok or something.. he's just like a funny little canadian dude dont you know you are a woman and you are going to end up married as a bangmaiden with an oldfart too?? like what do you plan to do, have standards?? bit misandrist much??
>jordan petterson
''childfree women are pathological, ignorant children doomed to isolation and misery. past age 35 women will start to crave children so badly, but by then it will be too late and they'll be doomed to years of medical interventions and assisted reproduction. Also please wash your penis''
No. 2520844
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>>2520811>i hate his mouthbreathing, 20 IQ expression here. you know he thinks he's soooo hotThis post was written by Messala Severus btw
No. 2520874
>>2520863I was live-reading the conversation and I didn't notice any deleted posts except your own doubleposts, I think you're just making this up. All your replies are still pointing to posts that are still up as far as I can see. She didn't defend him from being called ugly, she just said he's not part of the Ugly Male Psyop. She's correct, he's not. He is not shilled as attractive, and he does not shill other men as attractive since he's not a hollywood director or producer or video game producer or whatever. If you want to have a political conversation about manosphere moids and tweets you don't like I'm sure there's a thread for that like the Twitter hate thread or something.
Nevermind I just refreshed the thread and I see which post she deleted, it was the one calling an anon embarrassing for saying she has no idea how women can get past the smell of old people, they are disgusting. I also found that post offensive tbh, my mom and grandma don't smell and I love them and don't find them disgusting, but I didn't reply because I assumed she was talking about old men specifically in a romantic context and just unintentionally worded the post offensively. It is embarrassing zoomer generational wars shit to say 'all older people are disgusting and smell' as if you yourself won't one day be an old woman though. I assume the other anon deleted her post because she realized it was a reply to the JP post not meant to be a general statement. She still wasn't 'defending him' kek and he's still not part of the psyop.
No. 2520905
>>2520888Getting old is gross for both genders and to me it has nothing to do with sex or dating old scrotes, I don't care about old scrotes and I don't support the anon who defends peterson or something. Just the way your body deteriorates; your teeth, muscle loss, bone loss, vision loss, hair loss, memory loss, movements becoming slower, wrinkly saggy skin and the smell of course, all of this is lovecraftian body horror. Of course it happens to wild animals too. They have it even worse than us, because most of them die from starvation in the old age (if they don't get killed that is), like elephants lose their teeth and even if they're still able to move, they simply can't eat and die. That's why I see life in all forms as ultimately pathetic, although it has a short spark of glory at the start. Almost all musicians, directors, writers etc. created their greatest most influential works before they hit 40.
No. 2520913
>>2520905Again, no one defended Peterson kek. She just said he's not shilled as attractive, which is undeniably true.
>That's why I see life in all forms as ultimately pathetic, although it has a short spark of glory at the start. Almost all musicians, directors, writers etc. created their greatest most influential works before they hit 40.This is so dumb I'm sorry. Plenty of musicians, writers, directors, etc. create their best work later in life, people just don't care as much or get so excited because they already are established at earlier ages so it's not as surprising that they continue to get better. Very few musicians, for instance, have made anything of any value before age 30. Most people who make great scientific achievements do so in their older age, and most don't even have enough training to start to make achievements until their thirties. People's value isn't just in looking shiny and pretty, and the belief that it is is something exclusively ingrained into women so we feel worthless right after we start early adulthood. Most women these days are being told they're old worthless crones before they even manage to move out of their parents' house kek. This is all the psyop too. Do you actually think moids believe they're worthless and should just give up when they hit 30? No they don't, they just want women to feel like that, and retarded women oblige.
No. 2520918
>>2520913>Most people who make great scientific achievements do so in their older age, and most don't even have enough training to start to make achievements until their thirtiesThat's why I talked about all kind of art related people, it's the nature of the craft. The logistics of it are harder and require more time. But in terms of anything aesthetically related and inspired, most artists lose the spark after a certain age and I say it as someone who follows many older artits, there's just no comparison
>Do you actually think moids believe they're worthless and should just give up when they hit 30No but they should. They should definitely stop using their sperm after 32 or so
No. 2520952
>>2520918But it's not true of art people either. Every artist I can think of did their best work later in life, many in their 40s, 50s, even 60s. The only artists I can think of who did their best work in their twenties are people like Jeff Buckley who died in their twenties. Everyone else got better and created better works later. When you say 'people lose their spark later' I think you're misidentifying something which is that when someone with a really original idea comes along, people are first shocked by their originality which is usually when they're younger. Once they're older their personal style isn't surprising anymore, but that doesn't mean it doesn't get better. Fiona Apple's last album is far and away her best of all time, even though people were shocked by her original style as a teenager. Tom Waits, same thing. Nina Simone, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, Duke Ellington, Bach, Chopin, Liszt, etc. all created some of their very best works in middle age or in some cases older. It takes time to become very good at things, but people come right out the gate with interesting personalities that surprise people, which is the case with many artists. That's what you're describing when you describe that 'spark.' Actually knowing musicians, they get better as they age, almost 100% of the time.
It's obvious you have an incredibly nihilistic worldview though, about both men and women. Seems pointless to argue. You've been psyopped effectively.
No. 2520960
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girls of the younger generation are still really getting pregnant
No. 2520967
>>2520952Michelangelo was 23 when he sculpted Pieta, Mozart died at 35, basically the entire rock revolution and every big rock subgenre that was created in the XX century was started by people between 20 and 35 and all those bands and solo artists created their most influential works at that age. Everything that people are still nostalgiafagging for was started by young people (before 40)
>You've been psyopped effectivelyNope I don't center my life around men and I'm celibate by choice. Women who find old men ugly will still chase younger men, their lives always revolve around men in one way or another, which is the psyopp of its own
No. 2520989
>>2520967>Michelangelo was 23 when he sculpted PietaYeah and he didn't just stop creating good works after that kek
>Mozart died at 35And his only really great piece of music was the one he was composing on his deathbed (sorry Mozart fans).
>rockSucks in general that's why it doesn't age well and rock artists don't get any more interesting with age.
>Everything that people are still nostalgiafagging for was started by young peopleSpeak for yourself and like I said people's original personalities are already evident when they are young. This does not mean that they don't get better as they age or do things that are more important or better as they age, it just means the first time you heard that artist and went 'wow, how interesting!' was at their youngest when they first appeared on the scene. That doesn't mean it was their best work. The fact you unironically think women are at their most interesting at age 20 because skin so smooth and no old lady smell is so genuinely pathetic, that is the time when you are most naive, easily controlled by others, full of yourself and ultimately unoriginal and boring. It's fair to say people are most physically beautiful and also at peak strength/agility when they're fairly young, but that's pretty much it.
>I don't center my life around menAnd yet despite that you still believe that women are worthless old hags over 30 kek
No. 2521019
>>2520989>And yet despite that you still believe that women are worthless old hags over 30 kekOh my fucking god, WHERE did I say this? They are not worthless as people by any means. I simply said the physical process of getting old is terrible in itself, and losing control over your body and memory is terrible, being able to do less and less is terrible, and it's about all life forms not just human women. We are literally trapped in meat suits and we have almost no control over what happens with them over time
EVERYTHING you know and remember can be taken away from you by an aneurysm in the span of a second. You can lose it all in a moment, but learning new skills and languages takes months. How is that not a horror? And the risk of every terrible thing that can happen to our body, like cancer, grows with age.
Also you implied that I somehow romanticize women's early 20s and claim women are "the best at 20" and other scrotetalk like that, and it literally never happened. It's like you want to fight against one particual idea so bad you put words in my mouth that I never used.
No. 2521026
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>>2520811Ikr? That dude looks like handsome squidward: he has all the traits that are considered attractive on scrotes, but ALL of it and TOGETHER just does too much for his face and that makes it look ugly in execution.
No. 2521365
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Nonas, have you ever seen a man irl that made your jaw drop?
How long ago was it? How many times did it happen?
pls reply we are so close to filling this thread and getting rid of the threadpic
No. 2521483
>>2521365Once, about 8 years ago. I was so shocked when I saw him and then he actually stopped me on my way and asked whether I speak English!
…turns out that he was a mormon missionnaire. I ran so fast kek
No. 2521894
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(moid bait)
No. 2522395
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brutal mog
No. 2522634
>>2522624It's been broken since the influx of actorfags when the pandemic was in full force. Even if the men aren't ugly, the glorification of some of these men, who are
abusive or have done lousy things (ie ezrafags when they were a thing with ezra miller, some of them acknowledged he was wrong and just liked his face, but others are in denial of his grooming and cult scandals), is enough to make me recoil.
No. 2522819
>>2522687>retweeted shit about women being the achilles heel of civilization>attempted to buy 400 copies of a book where women are blamed for destroying society>retweeted shit about how women have to protect moid feefees>tweeted/retweeted something about women being chained to a radiator>added Aella to his evopsych twitter groupThis one makes me kek. Cow crossover
>redpilled chud>sex tourism in Thailand>porn addict>dunning kruger personified>spent 200 dollars on his own birthday to talk to a grifter on Twitter>was a reply guy to multiple grifters on Twitter>social media addict who laments about social media addiction>got a back surgery he didn't need>went to a commune in Hawaii and befriended the person who runs it, who is accused of sexual harassment>liked it so much he's in their promo vids and visited loads of times>got radicalized by reading Ted K's manifesto>otherwise read self help slop>begged Twitter grifters to make a friend group for himAmong other things.
No. 2522854
>>2522632to be fair some of the oasisfags admit to not even liking the music, but were more just puzzled at how the guys openly tongue kissed and groped each other while the public seemed to ignore it. which led to digging into their weird interviews, anecdotes, etc. i guess there's an appeal in a "watching two trainwrecks" sort of way because of that.
tbh shippers will ship basically anything as long as the subjects act even the slightest bit gay even if they're monkeys
No. 2523113
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Beards need to be banned
No. 2523815
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>>2520267NTA but yes, I dated a man 9 years younger and we both lost our virginities together. I enjoyed the power dynamic for a while but ultimately he turned me into his mother. I was 35. It's the only way to find someone who isn't bald and fat although spoiler, mine starting balding not long into the relationship.
Obligatory ugly man photo, that hairline is going back fast.
No. 2523837
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>>2520267Absolutely. Just be confident tbh if anything being inexperienced takes the pressure off both of u.
No. 2523873
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Saw this and made me think of this thread
No. 2525030
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This is so bleak
No. 2525746
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>what level of pickmeism are you on?
No. 2526054
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>>2525746>none have waists or juicy pecsinto the trash it goes.
No. 2526068
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Least hypocritical scrote
>women lose weight
>men do sex tourism
This is a tinfoil but a big part of why white men love harping on about how ugly non white women are is to neg them into thinking ugly white scrotes like this are doing them a favor.
No. 2526075
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>>2526073This is also one of his profile pics. Scrotes love
victim blaming women about choosing shitty men then get mad when we don't entertain blatant sex pests
No. 2526205
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>>2526075You know what, you’re right. This IS what the average 26 year old moid looks like and is exactly why women are en masse refusing to touch you scrotoids.
No. 2526209
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>>2526205>not unattractiveKek he looks like fucking Moviebob, and he's only 26.
No. 2526298
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>>2526078Honestly losing weight might help fix his hairline. There's a correlation between obesity and hair thinning.
and yes 'Sonic Hedgehog' is a real medical term for a gene, yes it's inhibitor is named Robotnikinin No. 2526494
>>2526476The fishing pictures are probably doing him in more than the hairline. Both are reprehensible and match his personality, but he must be a retard too if he can’t understand how
>>2526075 may negatively impact his chances.
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>>2526253they're trying to impress other men
No. 2526558
>>2526327The weird thing is, iirc (I read the book in high school so I might be misremembering) I don't think the moid was supposed to be super old, I think he was like early-mid thirties and attractive but Marianne was super young which was why she thought he was too old, he wasn't an actual grandpa. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think casting Snape was necessary to convey the age difference, especially if they were gonna romanticize it - Winslet I think was a teen in the movie, so close to Marianne's age in the book, and Alan Rickman was literally like 50. Jane Austen typically 'demonized' (not really, more like felt sorry for/wrote cautionary tales about) characters who fall for shitty superficially charming men because she knew this would lead to total ruin in her time and was afraid of player fuckboy type men fucking up women's lives, she wasn't into the idea of women marrying men they don't like/love though. She herself never even married and her books were always really sympathetic toward old maids/unmarried single women. The movie is mostly following the book but with an unnecessarily old casting, which makes it seem creepier than the book intended (age difference was creepy in the book too but it was more normal for girls to marry young back then and she herself I think was a teen or 20 when she was writing it). Tbf Emma Thompson was also at least like a decade too old for her character kek so at least they were equal-opportunity offenders for once instead of exclusively casting super young women, now every movie has a 25 year old actress playing what should be a 40yo love interest for the moid.
>>2526490Mine too anon and he's in his 60s
No. 2526601
>>2526054I like to spam videos like this on male imageboards to make them seethe.
Imagine if this kind of content was as normalized as female thrist traps are. They arent because most men are out of shape. Men are so fucking lazy and fat.
No. 2526613
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This is about Solid Snake. Also it's ironic for the poster to imply liking men who aren't bearded roidpigs makes them pedos when he himself is a pedo who was sexually attracted to an 18 year old as a 33 year old.(dragging an infight across threads)
No. 2526614
>>2526606I lurk social media a lot and definitely see men praising women who excel at typically 'male interests'. It's just rare for women to actually manage to do that, so the amount of times women achieve that kind of praise still stays low.
I've also seen it irl too, whenever women beat men at stuff. Men are simple creatures like dogs. Whoever beats them at something immediately
triggers a submission button in their brains. Some of them lash out against this natural instinct and will cope and seethe, but in general they mostly just take the L. You will always get sexist scrotes who hate women and will never praise a woman ever no matter what she does. But I think in general, genuine talent or skill does impress moids, but you'll always have to work twice as hard to get it. Not that 'impressing the guys' should be your motivation for becoming really good at something btw.
No. 2526626
>>2526614>Men are simple creatures like dogs. Whoever beats them at something immediately triggers a submission button in their brainsI will never forget the rush of dopamine I got when at like 11 years old I was able to beat every boy in my class in arm wrestling kek. But that was before puberty hit us. Then they obviously became much stronger than me, while before puberty I was taller and stronger… I wish the sexual dimorphism wasn't so strong in humans so I could still be physically stronger than men. I remember something about it was so satisfying and exciting. I genuinely miss being taller than males my age too. I'm autistic but I don't have the concentration required to learn a big brain skill or simply commit to something
>>2526595 I just wish I could beat the shit out of them kek
No. 2526684
>>2526607>they have more money, commit less crime, are less fat, generally have better jobs, and lower divorce rates than any other race of moidYou forgot the higher educational performance and lesser balding rates. One of them gave me the best fuck of my life. If I
really wanted a child and had to either get hitched or visit a sperm bank, I would pick an East Asian moid to change my biology, based on my experience with them. Their resumes are the best of all the moids, and they seem to have less genetic hiccups than the others. For any britbongs reading this,
I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT TALKING ABOUT INDIAN OR MIDDLE-EASTERN SCROTES. No. 2526697
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>>2526615>dismiss it or find reasons it doesn't countExactly this kek. Even back in the 70s when Billie Jean King btfo a leading tennis moid who got too cocky, the general reaction from moids was endless coping.
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this is cringe as fuck but still funny because it made men seethe
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>>2526607>I feel like other races of men aggressively try to gatekeep women from dating Asian men by constantly bashing them and calling them effeminate and small dicked.Scrotes do that on this very site. Nothing makes moids seethe more than women having yellow fever kek.
No. 2526890
>>2526605Yeah I know most girls were married in their early-mid 20s, but it was MORE normal for women to marry young back then. It's not at all normal now, it's illegal in most cases, but back then it did happen, especially in aristocratic families that were trying to get money by pawning off their daughters to someone rich or connected (which was basically the case in S&S and P&P). Jane Austen wrote Sense and Sensibility, most likely, when she was a teenager herself which imo makes the depiction of a teen girl not wanting to date a 30-something moid because he's too old but ultimately liking him a lot way less creepy than if it was written by a man, older woman with more life experience, etc. In her later books she was more negative/sarcastic writing about pairings with big age gaps or very young women getting married for money/status, and Persuasion had the main character be a 'past marriage age' old maid. Aging up Marianne slightly in the movie was a good idea since by modern standards she was beyond too young to get married, but literally almost doubling the age of the male love interest was such a retarded thing to do because the original age gap was already concerning enough to the character(s) in the book and presented as problematically large without having to make him literally geriatric and ugly. He was supposed to be too old for her, but still attractive and 'dashing'. I first watched that movie as a teen and found it really creepy.
>>2526606Yes… I mean most moids don't because they're retarded but plenty do respect and admire women, especially men who are more intelligent and actually have to work with women in high-status fields. Lots of sporty men give a lot of respect to women and girls who excel at athletics too. They usually respect you more if you're good at stuff they care about or understand.
>>2526607As someone who has done it dating Asian men absolutely sucks, and if you look at the rates of VAW, sexual assault, prostitution and cheating in East Asian countries they're very high. Was not worth it just because he was hot. So I wouldn't shill them just because they bald less and tend to be thinner - if you like that aspect of Asian men you're probably better off dating like some 3rd generation Asian male who is fully westernized in personality/culture. I agree they look better than most men and are more likely to earn more, but I'm not sure if other men are jealous of them for that, I think they just legitimately weren't considered attractive in the West until recently and they suddenly are. I think moids seethe at Asian men because they used to not consider them competition, but now with the rise of Asian media that's not true anymore which gives other men more competition for women.
No. 2526986
>>2526928Westernized Asian men can still be as misogynistic as any other men but at least they didn't grow up stewing in one of the cultures with the worst VAW rates in the OECD and rampant socially prostitution/cheating, etc. Sage for blog but my East Asian ex talked a lot about how much he preferred western culture because it was less regressive and sexist, how he hated sexist gender roles back home and how his mom and sister both suffered from extreme domestic violence (he did too but to a smaller extent) only to then turn around and act in extremely stereotypical ways without even noticing. He defended his retarded ugly old moid friend emotionally abusing his young, beautiful, intelligent wife for hours/days on end with 'that's just our culture, newlywed wives are supposed to make an effort for their husbands,' was extremely religiously/morally repressed, insanely jealous/possessive and controlling about the tiniest things, etc. There are extremely strict conduct codes for women in East Asian cultures and moids in those cultures will chimp out of women don't meet them. He was extremely high-intelligence, hardworking, polite (when he wasn't having a melty) and hot/athletic, which is why I dated him in the first place, but once I knew him for a bit longer and the ultrapolite respectful mask started slipping I understood why other people had warned me not to date recent E.A. immigrants.
On the other hand the women I know who have dated/are dating 2nd/3rd gen East Asian men don't seem to experience most of these same issues (and the 2nd/3rd gen Asian moids I've been friends with seemed much chiller as well), because they weren't surrounded by those cultural norms growing up. They may still have 'tiger moms' and dads who make them do their homework until 1am every day and may still be kinda neurotic but they didn't grow up seeing extremely regressive treatment of women normalized absolutely everywhere.
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Seems that white moids are the hardest to live with, followed by black moids and then latinos and the asian moids.
If a man has been divorced before that's always a huge red flag imo. Women do not divorce good men.
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>>2527058note that they would never say "among men"
No. 2527168
>>2527129What do you mean by this?
>>2527062This is kind of a nitpick though, since all the top world players are male. He's saying she was the #1 in women's chess, not open chess. I would have also said the exact same thing and I'm female kek since it would be inaccurate to call someone who is not the #1 chess player overall 'the #1 chess player.' The moid is not being disrespectful.
>>2527058This is weird to me. Maybe it's cultural, I've gotten plenty of respect from men throughout my life, as long as they are not bitter ugly poor scrotes with no skills themselves.
>>2527022Out of curiosity where were they born nonna? I think the culture a man grew up in is much more important than just his general ethnic background when it comes to his attitudes toward women (and other socialized personality traits).
No. 2527182
>>2527176Female grandmasters do beat male grandmasters though, even if they never beat the best/most famous ones, and most normal men into chess do have an enormous amount of respect for the best female gradmasters, know them by name, sperg about them etc. Same with like pretty much any other occupation/hobby, moids actually serious about that hobby will most of the time respect women who are better than them. I think moids like that retarded PhD moid who wrote to the female mathematician were more common in the past and they are the most loudly bitter but now that moids in academic professions more commonly work with women, most of them are perfectly capable of respecting women and admiring women who are good at something they care about.
Anyway it's kind of a derail because it doesn't have much to do with attractiveness, although I will say there is no man as bitter and nasty about female excellence as an ugly man. Never met a hot, fit man who malded and felt threatened by female excellence, it's only ugly scrotes with inferiority complexes.
No. 2527229
>>2527188It's just true that a woman has never won a world chess championship. I don't get what your issue is with admitting this reality in the context of whether moids respect female grandmasters or not? Moids do respect female grandmasters, even though they are never able to beat all the men in the world.
>>2527189No, they have open chess and women's chess. That's why you would never hear a moid saying '#1 in men's chess' because that doesn't exist, but #1 in women's chess is a thing that exists. Reading comprehension, nonna.
>>2527197There are a lot of other traits that are like this too though like intelligence, how wealthy you were born, etc. At least there are different kinds of advantages since most people don't have all of them all at once. I think ugly women are way less bitter and spiteful than ugly men on the whole though, and most women are nowhere near as ugly as even the average man so the number of women who are really perceived by society as truly ugly is low. There are SO MANY hideous moids and basically every single one of them is evil, spiteful and bitter, even though there's way less emphasis put on their appearance than there is on women's. Somehow unfortunate looking women manage to not be evil, spiteful and bitter a lot of the time.
No. 2527254
>>2527233Women can compete in the open category. It's not like men forced women to form a female chess league, women did.
>>2527246I don't know why you're expecting me to answer a question no one actually knows the answer to. Probably just that fewer women are encouraged to go into professional/competitive chess, some or many of them feel intimidated or mistreated when playing with men, etc. I don't know why you feel like you have the right to 'test' me on some unknown knowledge just because I pointed out a basic fact to you kek. You can try to make that moid commenter look evil and sexist all you want but it wasn't a sexist comment, he was just pointing out she won a women's world championship and the guy is just a guy.
No. 2527387
>>2527371>Hasn’t been my experience.>They only like white son in laws.And how the hell would you that from experience?
You must be baiting.
No. 2527399
>>2527222Holy shit there's a news interview with him about the meltdown and it's even funnier than the original video
>I was in the forest hitting trees with a miniature baseball bat and I hit myself in the leg>The bruise went down now but it was there yesterdayWhy are manlets like this
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>>2526607>gatekeeping womenThis isn't a thing exclusive to non-asian moids, pretty much moids of any race/class/group do this. Black moids will say white moids are bigoted and too feminine, white moids will say black moids are too aggressive and impure. It's not our of a genuine care for your safety, it's just a way to make sure you stay exclusive to them
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>>2527563I think she is correct that men are unusually chimping out about Asian moids lately but I think it's because of the sudden popularity of East Asian media, men realizing that a lot of the men in that media are skinny, youthful looking 'prettyboys' not the geriatric roidpigs they try to shill, and also just because they were used to thinking of Asian men as uncool losers who were definitely not going to steal women from them (which is funny, because Asian men were popular among women where I lived in the early 2000s and onwards too). I remember moids used to repost all these articles wherever they used to post things back in 2005-2015 about how 'there is an Asian masculinity crisis' 'women don't understand that Asian men are hot and don't give them a chance' etc. Especially after OKCupid released their 'studies' on online dating statistics. So most other moids just felt like 'okay, at least I'm not a Chinese or Korean guy who women will not even notice at all' but now that they're 35 and bald and fat women are opting for thin, thick-haired Asian moids over them and it's really upsetting their whole life plan. Picrel is from 10 years ago when the seething moids probably still had their hair.
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>>2526890>>2526986>if you look at the rates of VAW in East Asian countries they're very high>one of the cultures with the worst VAW ratesWhy are you fucking lying?
No. 2527667
>>2527610Not everyone lives in the US and different cities even within the US have different demographics. Where I live (not my city but the region of the city I live and work in), about 30% of the population is East Asian, about 30% is white, and about 30% is south/west Asian or North African. White/Asian couples are very common here, almost as common as White/White or Asian/Asian couples, just off the top of my head two of my next door neighbors and at least 5 of my friends are in Asian/White couples (some of them married, some not). I myself dated several Asian men in the past and one of them had a sister in a LTR with a white man. What she's saying therefore does not sound very implausible to me at all, especially since these traits aren't equally distributed. For example, an asian family where one sibling is able to date interracially with the parents' approval is more likely to have multiple siblings who date (or are 'allowed' by their parents to date) interracially, and if you live in a city like Vancouver where about 40% of the population is white and 40% is East Asian the odds are actually pretty good. If you and your sibling both attended a university program that has a lot of East Asians in it, again, high chance of multiple siblings dating white people at some point. Seems like a weird hill to die on to accuse her of lying about something plausible just to prove some very minor point.
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>>2527628You wrongly quoted the post, I actually said that (combined)
>if you look at the rates of VAW, sexual assault, prostitution and cheating in East Asian countries they're very high.When you're looking for a partner hopefully you're not just interrogating his attitudes about beating or raping women, but also about relationship fidelity, whether he would be happy for you to work after marriage, etc. VAW/sex crimes are also extremely underprosecuted in some of these countries. In SK for instance, academics in SK cite numbers significantly higher than 17%, see picrel. Source:
https://archive.is/gqTST>Last March, Yoon Suk-yeol was elected president on a wave of male resentment. He pledged to abolish the country’s Ministry of Gender Equality and Family, which he said treated men like “potential sex criminals.” And he blamed feminism for the country’s low birth rate, suggesting that it “prevents healthy relationships between men and women,” adding that this was “not a problem that can be solved by giving out government subsidies.”>According to exit polls, nearly 59 percent of men ages 18 to 29 voted for Yoon, while 58 percent of women in that age group voted for the liberal candidate. One commentator declared it the “incel election.” Several people noted to me that in a country as ethnically homogenous as South Korea, the election emphasized the extent to which gender, rather than race or immigration status, has become the key social fault line.Rape isn't defined by non-consent in SK, unlike most other OECD countries, but by actual injurious force, so rape is likely widely underreported since it is defined much more narrowly. There are also extremely punishing anti-false-report laws. From FP:
>At the heart of the controversy is a 1953 law that defines rape on the basis of physical violence, not lack of consent. The switch from coercion-based to consent-based rape law has been adopted in recent decades by several countries, mostly in Europe, reflecting United Nations guidelines that favor the latter. Feminists in South Korea have been trying to reform the law for years, but their efforts have created a sense of panic among some men who believe it would result in a flood of false allegations of rape.>“This is a law aimed at killing men,” wrote one commentator on FMKorea, a prominent right-wing website popular among young men.But it's not just rape/VAW, prostitution is normalized and cheating levels are extremely high, upskirt photos and spycams are an epidemic, SK has the highest gender pay gap and worst female working conditions in the OECD according to HRW:
>Discrimination against women and girls is widespread in South Korea. The gender pay gap, at 31 percent, is the widest among countries that belong to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). South Korea has been consistently ranked by The Economist as having the worst working environment for women among the 29 advanced economies it analyzes.Even though women in SK are more educated than men, they are basically expected to quit work if they get married, and are stigmatized/mistreated at work if they do not. I have multiple female Korean friends who moved to North America largely because of the severe sexism in SK and who refuse to date Korean men entirely. Japan has similar issues with prostitution, they basically had legal pedophilia until recently and still have culturally normalized loli hentai and child idols, hostess clubs, etc.
Anyway kind of a derail, I'm not saying no one should date East Asian men, but if you do date them just keep in mind that some of these cultural attitudes may still be ingrained in them. I agree that East Asian moids tend to be hotter, age better, bald less, and often be more conscientious about work/education, but you shouldn't trust stats from an extremely sexist government/country purely on their say-so either. Really a moid not being ugly and not balding is probably a good sign overall but you should thoroughly vet individual men by their behaviour and attitudes and actions/character, not just assume that they're not raging misogynists because they come from a culture that puts more emphasis on politeness and 'saving face.' The Hallyu industry in SK and all the Netflix Kdramas are aimed at making the country look good, and they were smart to do so by prioritizing putting hot young chivalrous men in their media (Hollywood doesn't even bother and is fine with depicting depraved, walled scrotes) but this also isn't exactly representative. Almost the entire male cast of Squid Game 2 are either convicted or accused abusers of women, and it's one of the most popular Asian shows internationally. I think it's good that Chinese and Korean media don't engage in the ugly man psyop and try to make women settle for hideous moids, but they are definitely trying to get their birthrates up and get women to settle for moids by romanticizing dating and marriage (and moids in general). It's just done in a slightly different way.
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>>2527610It's not that difficult to date and marry asian guys as a non-asian woman nona. Maybe you're doing something wrong
No. 2527766
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this is just more proof that ugly on the inside = ugly on the outside. two brothers, two actors, aged VERY differently. hyde from that 70s show was never really attractive in the first place and he was also a serial rapist. he got sentenced to 30 years in prison. he looks absolutely putrid these days. his brother is francis from malcolm in the middle and he was attractive 25 years ago and he is attractive today! unproblematic king
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>>2527766kek reminds me of this
No. 2527791
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even the normies are waking up
No. 2527863
>>2527045>>252778448% of Japanese men have slept with prostitutes. Let me not bring up their normalized child exploitation.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11347242/I'm begging you guys to listen to Japanese, Chinese and South Korean feminists instead of looking for a new demographic of men to praise every time.
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>>2527977Western feminists say that
prostitution i mean sex work is work, and getting plastic surgery, wearing makeup, being financially dependent on a moid and any is empowering as long as it's your choice and if you disagree you're the misogynist. Even looking at kpoop, whenever a male idol gets in a scandal for acting the way a typical trashy moid of that culture would that east asian women have experience with, western fans defend them like martyrs like the scrote is gonna kill himself if he doesn't date and call the east asian fans
femcels, as if the selling point of a male idol isn't to act like a boyfriend to fans and western fans tooootally don't consume it that way, they don't like the guy because he's good looking! They're in it for the music and talent
both shart btw unlike those delusional
femcels fans!
No. 2528010
>>2527058It's scary how angry they get over a fucking game.
The one time I've won a race in GTA against some moids I used to play with, this one moid got so mad at me he ragequit the game. Mind you, this was a moid in his 20s. The other time he got mad at me was during an event (can't remember which one) and I was about to win, he couldn't take that and tried to kill my character until the time was up. Like, it's a stupid fucking game, why are you so mad about it?? What pissed me off the most though that he was ugly and his gf was genuinely beautiful and talented. Why did she pick him of all the scrotes she could have had?? I hate it when beautiful women pick men who are UGLY, not even average. FULL ON UGLY.
No. 2528032
>>2527935This is what the study says:
>Approximately half of Japanese men aged 20–49 years have paid for sex, including call services, erotic massages and oral sex.Paid sex is prostitution. "Erotic massages don't count" is weird libfem cum cucked housewife mentality. At no point does the study claim that these services "do not count as" prostitution. There are entire districts in Japan reserved for brothels where businessmen can be "discreet". "Much lower" my ass.
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>>2528032>What is already known on this topicBased off prior research with flawed methodology
No. 2528153
>>2527762Sexism isn't the only reason we continue to have female chess, there's very good practical reasons too (having female invite-only competitions helps preserve your rating if you aren't rated high enough to join the general invite-only competitions, compared to going to open competitions where much lower-rated players compete), lower stereotype threat, and other reasons besides. It's just unfortunate when people who don't even care about a sport/activity start calling something that women themselves achieved 'sexist' because 'it implies (something dumb)' kek. And most male chess enthusiasts actually watch women's chess competitions avidly, unlike most women's sports, so this was a really bad example if anons wanted to prove moids can never respect women.
>>2527766I wouldn't exactly say the moid on the bottom is attractive (he's ugly imo) but he has aged better, that's for sure. The rapist has always been hideous, on That 70s Show I just thought of him as 'the ugly one and that's saying a lot considering the whole cast was ugly.
>>2527783They're lower for the most part. That's why women move from those countries to Western countries to escape sexism and violence. Not sure about Japan, but China and SK for sure.
>>2527786Your chance of random stranger crime is indeed higher in the US, but when you're looking for dating partners you're not looking to date strange criminals, you want to know if the moid you're dating will hurt you or disrespect you.
>>2527788Okay but this is something so likely that there's no point in accusing her of lying, just makes the accuser look schizo.
>>2527789I've dated a Korean Man (very emotionally
abusive, repressed, controlling), a Korean-American man (he was OK) briefly, and my friends who have dated Chinese/Taiwanese/HK men seem to like them a lot better than anyone I know who has dated Korean men kek. I've never even met a Mongolian. I had a mutual crush on a Taiwanese man at some point and he treated me the best by far but it didn't turn into a longer relationship so I can't say he wouldn't have been crazy, but I don't think so. They were all well educated but meeting well educated moids is easy enough if you live in a big city, it's all the other shit you have to control for.