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No. 2489483

Discuss the current psyop regarding ugly and old men being shilled as attractive.
This thread is also for talking about topics like beauty double standards in media, ugly fictional and IRL men shilled as attractive, science about male aging and unattractiveness, etc.
>do not try to defend ugly men ITT, go to unconventional male attractions to discuss uggos you like
>report/ignore racebait
>this thread is specifically for what moids look like; extended discussions of moid behavior, crimes, sexuality, etc. are better suited to the manhate thread.

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>>2428639
>>2458998

No. 2489508

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>>2489327
The World Health Organization considers 4% and above to be a normal percentage of healthy sperm for men. Up to 60% can be unable to swim, and 40% can be dead, and it's considered fine. Human sperm quality is low compared to other mammals, moids were honestly fucked by having their testes placed in the outside.

No. 2489514

>>2489508
That's actually kind of interesting from an evolutionary perspective. I wonder if this was nature's attempt at birth control.

No. 2489515

threadpic is criminal. ugly white men who take advantage of WOC are subhuman

No. 2489516

>>2489508
>moids were honestly fucked by having their testes placed in the outside.
You're sure it's not because men have ruined natural selection in our species for dozens of centuries and men who shouldn't even exist keep reproducing?

No. 2489520

>>2489515
Let’s not take all the responsibility off the gross pickmes who happily allow these failmales to reproduce.

No. 2489525

>>2489508
I wonder if such low sperm standarts are new and in the past they were more strict, since scrote sperm is actually progressively getting shittier and shittier due to them jerking off much more than they did in the past, global warming and hormones in food and water. Soon we are going to consider 1% of healthy sperm cells in men to be "good".

No. 2489532

OP pic makes me want to alog so hard. Someone should take that moid out back and shoot his brains out.

No. 2489533

>>2489520
white supremacy tricks these women into thinking they have won something because they themselves have placed a premium on whiteness just as society wants them to, but i dont like to blame them, theyre still married to an ugly Neanderthal scrote in the end. however we can rarely have this conversation without someone coming in and asserting that white moids are still somehow our "lowest risk" partners in the grand scheme of things and therefore criticizing how some women are pickmes specifically for white scrotes shouldnt be talked about

No. 2489535

>>2489514
I've heard the theory that human males evolved less potent sperm to engage in recreational sex, which does line up with the birth control idea

>>2489516
>men have ruined natural selection in our species
That too, but sperm is already sensitive to temperature, so having the testes located outside the body exposed to the elements doesn't help.

No. 2489541

>>2489231
Whats up with so many anons calling attractive men femboys and troons now? that anon was shitting on yuzuru hanyu(an accomplished figure skater) and saying he was a faggot when he is married to a woman and has a hoarde of horny female fans. Also, going to the gym is the faggiest thing a moid can do, its just pure faggotry induced vanity. Doing sports is way, way hotter and less vanity obsessed. I dont know why men turn 18 and stop doing sports and instead just go to the gym, i find that boring.

No. 2489544

>>2489137
>>2488988
>Muh eugenics!!
Can these people shut the fuck up? The shit they're talking about is anti-nature, there's no other way to describe it. Men with curdled sperm will never elicit the same sympathy in me as women who struggle to conceive and they don't deserve any "help" passing on their genes. Why should his wife suffer through a difficult pregnancy just because his ancestors unfairly raped their way into the gene pool?

No. 2489557

>>2489541
moids who do sports are generally way hotter. Shame one of the few sports that creates and features nothing but the ugliest moids, football, is the most popular sport in the US. I hate it here.

No. 2489567

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Honestly as much as the sperm affirmative action device sucks, it doesn't seem any better or worse than certain types of IVF. At least the egg could still reject the crippled sperm, IVF just injects a sperm directly into the egg cell.

No. 2489575

>>2489544
Bitch I wanted to agree with you, but Yuzuru Hanyu is a little fag who divorced his wife after 3 months because they were harassed by the press. Couldn't be enough of a man to protect his wife and work out the relationship. So terrible example. And moids who play sports are gay as fuck, have you ever seen a soccer game? You retard.(infighting)

No. 2489578

>>2489557
They're generally hotter when we're talking about their pyshiques, but they're usually ugly as fuck in the face, gay, and will cheat at every opportunity.

No. 2489579

>>2489541
>>2489575
Then what do you guys even like? Those hunter gathering guys in the middle of the amazon since gyms and sports don't exist there. Like, i'm sorry but this thread is starting drive my mind insane with all the contradictory bullshit. Let's just focus on making fun of ugly men for once.

No. 2489582

>>2489579
We literally said we like guys who do sports. Learn how to read.

No. 2489586

>>2489575
How do you know his wife didnt divorce him because she couldnt deal with his fangirls and the press? wtf is he supposed to do against the press harassing them?
>And moids who play sports are gay as fuck
as opposed to moids who go to the gym purely to get male approval and sniff each others farts?

No. 2489590

>>2489483
Thread pic is so disgusting, holy shit. Reason #7272829292292 why (female) celibacy is a blessing and to never fall for the "muh provider" meme—it's nothing but a chain.

No. 2489598

>>2489483
doing this with the rights MLK and Susan B. Anthony got for you? shame on you.

No. 2489602

>>2489582
Some other nonna said men doing sports are gay though? I know others also like sporty men so that's why I'm confused?

No. 2489604

>>2489483
I need a spoiler on this image because it triggers me immensely.

No. 2489606

>>2489586
I don't know and I don't care. I assume she knew what she was getting into and did the best she could, as most women do, and put the full blame on him as the man in the relationship. He is not the first and only celebrity with rabid fans and press all over him. As for sports moids, they are cheaters and always indulge in homoerotic "friendships". I like their bodies and that's it. Personally, I prefer a guy who goes to the gym once in a while to maintain his health and appearance, but is not a full-blown narcissistic gym-bro weirdo.

No. 2489609

>>2489567
Why do women have to do all this stuff because men arent as competent? Fuck those useless scrotes

No. 2489614

>>2489602
One anon sperging out about homoeroticism in sports, while forgetting that there are plenty of solitary sports, is hardly representative of everyone.

No. 2489642

>>2489541
Reminds me how a couple of years ago someone in /g/ kept calling every 80s singer a tranny even if said singer was blatantly against trannies. Not even over guys with makeup, just any who had long hair. That argument over the ice skater is especially hilarious because one of the anon's in the original discussion posted an actual bifaggot actor as an example of how a "straight" man would dress.

No. 2489645

I don't watch tv often but these days I was surprised to see a new L'Oreal add that actually featured a young attractive model with no wrinkles or facial hair, feels like it's been a decade since that last happened.
Sadly he's not the only model in that campaign, they also got an uggo blonde and a goofy black guy.

No. 2489722

>>2489541
>Also, going to the gym is the faggiest thing a moid can do
…What? How else are they supposed to build muscle? The human body cant build muscle after a certain point without equipment

No. 2489794

>>2489227
Anyone who conflates sexy clothing with being something for women only is misogynistic

No. 2489796

>>2489722
swimmers have good bodies without going to the gym.

No. 2489829

>>2489796
so if a man swan, ran, and lifted heavy things–some of which exist in gyms–would he have the idealized body type?

No. 2489831

>>2489794
I am really kekking at xir claiming that the most sexy male clothing is t-shirt and jeans wombo combo, aka the most mundane scrotewear possible.

No. 2489874

OP image is so offensive lol sometimes I think this thread is made by a scrote with a fetish for humiliating women under the guise of concern trolling

No. 2489893

>>2489533
There's been so many cases in my country of white men abusing and murdering their Asian mail order wives. The idea that white men are safe or low risk is really weird and honestly not true at all. Doesn't Europe also have some of the highest single motherhood rates in the world now too? White men are becoming almost as bad as black scrotes in terms of misogyny, shirking responsibilities and dumping their kids. They don't even see their woc partners as human.

No. 2489898

>>2489829
No, because every body is different. He would probably be attractive but some bodies just don't have the right proportions.

No. 2489911

>>2489525
Microplastics and hormone are turning the men gay

No. 2489956

>>2489893
white supremacist men will still enter into relationships with non white women and that kind of terrifies me.

No. 2489959

>>2489956
>Something something honorary aryans something something you can breed out the black something something
They just want to get their dicks wet and threw themselves at the first woman who would let them, regardless of her race or reasons.

No. 2489974

>>2489956
men think with their dicks first and foremost. there's no such thing as a genuinely racist man. they will take any vagina they can get.

No. 2489989

>>2489974
i disagree that theyre not "real racists" tho. a man can sleep with a woman he despises, there are some men who want to subjugate woc because they are racist, not in spite of it

No. 2489993

>>2489956
It's just an extention of men's more common ability to fuck without feeling any sort of affection or familiarity with the women they do sex with. In my opinion, it takes a certain level of sociopathy to have that kind of mindset, but these are scrotes we're talking about and white supremacists at that so it adds up, really.

No. 2490012

>>2489874
i won't say op's a scrote but that image kills me every single time i scroll past it. like genuine rage

>>2489533
>white male
>safest bet for poc women
huh?

No. 2490028

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why do all moids have beards nowadays?

No. 2490029

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>>2490028
also, scott the woz hit twink death at 25

No. 2490030

>>2490028
Hides their double chin and weak jawlines. And if they have a ngmi hairline it's a form of illusion that makes it look like a manufactured look instead of a sign of low quality sperm.

No. 2490032

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>>2487064
>>2488988
>>2489088
saving these posts from last thread

No. 2490033

>>2490028
>>2490029
It's funny you mention this because I was watching his newer videos not too long ago and noticed some type of physical change in him. He's definitely not as cute as he used to be a few years back.

No. 2490035

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>>2490032
There is a lot of mutated sperm info lately jfc. Maybe spoilers after this

No. 2490036

>>2490033
He would have aged better if he took care of his skin. I feel sorry for his gf. He legit looks decrepit now in candids.

No. 2490053

>>2490049
the spirit of bjchan is inside of you

No. 2490068

>>2489874
It's a screenshot of a video posted last thread. I thought posting the video was overkill, so just posted the screenshot

No. 2490265

>>2489479
I don’t get it? Is he forcing her to suck him off?
>>2489467
That girl is obviously no older than 15. You’d have to be a massive porn addict to not notice that.

No. 2490280

>>2490053
Or it's just her.

No. 2490287

>>2489575
KEK did you reply to the wrong post?

No. 2490374

>>2490068
The joke is that the woman just finished taking care of the baby, but the moid is a 'providing husband' and wants the woman to suck him off

No. 2490424

Why do moids assume when you mean by cute, attractive men, their mind goes directly to twinks and femboys. No matter how much I explain what I find attractive, they either seethe or don't get it. Redditors are worse with this thing.

No. 2490427

>>2490424
It's because that's what they secretly find attractive

No. 2490435

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This was partly mentioned in the past thread:
>Walton Goggins, 53 years old, creepy face, grey and balding, gets photoshoots plus news articles written about how hot he is
>Aimee Wood, 31 years young, super cute looking, gets an SNL parody in which she doesn't know what toothpaste is, all other characters (including the hag above) are replaced by politicians
She didn't throw a fit like many claim, she just called it a bit mean. Meanwhile he found it hilarious…
What truly shocked me is that they're a couple on the show, I thought they were a family and she was cast as his daughter. Just look at these pics, in all I saw they always look like father and child.
Now there's a lot of rumors about the two of them having an affair on set, she also looks a lot like a young version of his wife. What if that really was true? Of course she's old enough to make better decisions but it nevertheless must be heartbreaking to be always cast alongside ugly men old enough to be your dad, to fuck them (for more roles? or simple psyop brainwashing) and then to additionally be humiliated by them while they only garner praise and face zero repercussions.
He recently also gave an interview in which he talked about his first wife commiting suicide to garner some more sympathy and distract from his nasty personality. Moids whose wifes kill themselves are always a bit fishy to me in general.
The psyop always existed but recently it increasingly worsened. At least the old moids that my mom fell for back then (e.g. George Clooney) have a normal human face and still have hair. Nowadays they look like straight up monsters.

No. 2490450

>>2490427
So in other words, insistent projection? I just assumed it was joke until I noticed so many of them shoving it in jokes, on characters, and on other people. It stopped being funny for me once my mind caught on.

No. 2490451

>>2490032
godspeed nona. thanks so much for sharing this.

No. 2490453

>>2490424
I don't know how Reddit got the reputation of being the "smart" social media site when its users do Olympic-level mental gymnastics to misunderstand basic concepts.

No. 2490463

>>2490453
Redditors act like they're above it all because they're the ones making "real change", then you look at their post history and they fap to femboy porn or pick slap fights with normal people.

No. 2490464

>>2490463
>Redditors act like they're above it all because they're the ones making "real change"
KEK, they've forgotten about the entire "we did it Reddit!" meme

No. 2490847

Someone show me a single good looking male. Im not sure they even exist.

No. 2490849

>>2490847
Samefag i think I should clarify they can’t be 2D

No. 2491305

>>2490464
Then it got a man killed. This is why I hate reddit sometimes.

No. 2491384

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He is so. So. So. Ugly. And he's literally everywhere. I can't open my fridge without his busted mug poking out. I just watched the Fantastic 4 trailer and of course he's there. And OF COURSE his female partner is played by a woman who's 14 years younger than him (and way more attractive), I guess that an actress in her mid 40s would be simply too old to play a wife of a 50 year old scrote, she just has to be more than 10 years younger than him

No. 2491390

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This jug eared walled ass moid is in some shitty cancelled Netflix shows and his fangirls were crying and talking about how hot he is. Literally looks like a generic redneck tweaker from Ohio.

No. 2491392

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>>2490847
I've seen maybe 7 males in my entire life (either actors or musicians) I could call physically attractive

No. 2491394

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>>2491390
He also cheated on his much better looking wife. Moids were saying it's good he left her because she's 45 and 'too old for such a handsome guy' and how he should 'upgrade' when she looks a million times hotter than him.

JFC I never want to hear anyone say men have it difficult. The bar for moids in 2025 is in literal hell. It's literally never been easier to be an ugly ass man and still get worshipped as a god.

No. 2491402

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Am I crazy for not finding Heath Ledger handsome? Even when he was dressed elegantly like that, I always found him average at best. His death definitely helped the psyop, by making people believe he was handsome and I am tired of attacks everytime I say I don't find him handsome

No. 2491410

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>>2491402
That's Christian Bale, not Heath Ledger. But agreed, Heath looked very average

No. 2491418

>>2489541
I agree that being a gym rat is one of the faggiest things a moid can do (I even personally got in a disagreement about it on the last thread) but I will say that I do understand why a lot of people (men and women both) switch out sports for the gym once they hit 18-20 and I think it's mostly a cultural thing. In North America at least we have a culture of recreational sports (esp. team sports but not only) having to be extremely competitive for people to feel like they're legit, and once you're out of high school (or maybe college if you're a college athlete) it becomes hard to find 'competitive' sports leagues that actually take the sport seriously so people opt for something that doesn't feel like it's meant to be competitive instead. I did some martial arts in my twenties and my own teachers in tae kwon do basically acted like you weren't 'dedicated' enough to the class if you didn't want to pay to do competitions, even if you were actually better and showed up more than the people who wanted to do competitions. Sports can also be a lot harder to work around work schedules and life events in general, whereas you can always just skip a day at the gym or shift around the time you go compared to something like a soccer team or a karate class that is several hours long at a faraway location at a specific time 3x a week. I completely agree that it's much better to do actual sports and fitness activities then just hitting the gym but I myself ended up mostly defaulting to the gym for my fitness needs when I couldn't keep up with the schedules and pressures of sports or when the classes/teams/activities themselves got canceled due to low attendance. You used to be able to just casually play soccer or hockey or basketball in the street but now you can't, people are extremely overworked, the classes are wildly expensive (I used to take dance classes in college but after I graduated the only dance classes I could find were like $60 per hour long lesson, I can get an entire 3-month unlimited gym membership for that amount).

We need to bring back a culture of casual, for-fun sports and fitness activities that aren't ultra expensive or centered around being competitive or working towards going pro, but for that to happen people also need more money and better work life balance and probably friendly communities where people are down to do regular activities as groups.

No. 2491429

>>2491410
Kek my bad

No. 2491432

>>2491384
Oh my god this just reminded me of a trailer of a new movie he’s in where it’s a love triangle between him and Chris Evans with Dakota Johnson. On what planet is he even on Chris’s level, not that Chris is the best looking either. But Dakota is 15 YEARS younger than him. I hate that these parings are shoved down our throats like it’s normal for women to want this. I’m sick of moid-centred Hollywood full of their self-insert fantasy movies.

No. 2491438

>>2491410
Heath Ledger always seemed like a creep to me. He always went for very young or very neotenous waif women like Gemma Ward or Mary Kate. I'm glad he OD'd, junkie pseudopedo. He should have stopped making movies after 10 Things.

No. 2491439

>>2490029
>>2490028
>>2490033
>>2490036
I don't know who this is but I refuse to believe this moid was ever 'cute.' He has terrirble facial structure, bad skin and terrible thin mousy brown hair.

>>2490265
Yes he's forcing her to suck him off, in the last thread someone posted a whole bunch of their videos where, e.g., she pole dances for him to 'keep the marriage alive and be attractive for each other' while he lounges on a chaise longue ogling her, and so on and so forth in their house where they have children. The 'joke' in the tiktok is that once she finally manages to rest after putting the kids to bed he then tries to force her to perform sexually for him and she has to because he's a 'provider.'

>>2490424
What DO you mean by cute, attractive men? No woman likes gay men and femboys (okay, maybe some yaoi fans do but basically no other women do). That's a moid thing to like. But also liking those weird bara/bear fags is equally a moid taste thing that almost no women have, which is the other type of man moids assume women like or at least think we should like.

>>2490435
Holy shit I knew about the SNL skit but I actually didn't know they were a couple on the show. Wtf is wrong with casting directors and why would they do this, your pics really do look like a father and daughter. On the last thread people were even defending the SNL skit saying her teeth are so bad they look like a 'gimmick' but I don't get it, she is extremely pretty and the teeth are just like one minor quirk of her appearance that doesn't detract from her beauty much imo. I can't believe anyone would say her teeth are worse than his, he has the worst veneers I've ever seen.

>>2490453
Reddit has the reputation of being the 'smart' social media site because it leans male, leftist, and college educated more than any other social media site. Males and leftists by default consider themselves superior to everyone, especially leftist males, so they psyopped everyone else into believing they're the smartest site when it's mostly just a fetish porn platform with a thin veneer of respectability.

No. 2491443

>>2490036
>crying about an ugly 4/10 nerd ageing into an even uglier 2/10 nerd
Get a grip lol.

No. 2491446

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>>2491402
That's not heath ledger but ia Christian Bale is not and has never been attractive. As for Heath Ledger I get the hype, I don't think he had a very attractive face but he had a certain type of charisma/emo boy vibe a lot of other hollywood actors don't (a lot of them look really dead behind the eyes and kind of predatory and I think Heath Ledger gave a somewhat opposite impression in his movies) and he also frequently had long beautiful hair which is appealing to a lot of women. He also died young before he totally walled so people get to imagine him at his best forever, same as Brendan Lee or whatever his name is and River Phoenix (who imo is actually hideously ugly but is shilled in this thread as one of the hottest hollywood men frequently). To me he looked like an uglier, greasier Harry Styles but he had long blonde hair and died young so he has a lot of fangirls.

No. 2491447

>>2490435
Americans and their hysteria+obsession with teeth is so strange. In France and the UK, the wealthiest and most upper class people almost always have terrible teeth, often literally yellow or grey and crooked as hell. But nobody cares because those people are rich and have nothing to prove.
Veneers and perfect white smiles are associated with working class people and chavs in Europe. Turkey Teeth are seen as embarrassing and low class.
Whereas in America having a mouth full of piano key veneers like Goggins has is considered peak classiness and attractiveness and even a rich beautiful person with bad teeth is considered the worst most heinous trailer trash person in the world. Culture clash.

No. 2491451

>>2491432
>You can do better than me
>You are what we call a unicorn, an impossible fantasy
These dialogue lines right in the trailer make me wanna barf. Single 50yo pedro pascal is an impossible fantasy unicorn, really? Another element of this type of UMP shilling in movies that gets to me is in reality, if a moid is like 45-60 and rich and still single, that means there's something wrong with him and you'd probably wanna stay away. But these movies always shill these rich, successful, but lonely and single older guys as some amazing once in a lifetime catch and not a walking red flag. It's basically just shilling old school MRA/incel "we don't need to settle down until we're 50 because we men will get rich by then (I'm a 29yo NEET but don't worry I'll be a millionaire any second now) and all the young beautiful women will want us then!" rhetoric. It's not just trying to brainwash women but men too.

No. 2491452

>>2491402
He is mid and I also hate his droopy dick nose. Reminds me of that one muppet who is meant to be a fly or something and has the long coily nose lol. But because he's known to be a violent psycho moid (attacked his sister and mother and screams at crew) people (especially moids) are scared of him and give him more respect and clout than he deserves, never hop off his dick and make sigma memes about him. Honestly I think he's a pretty shit actor too. He pulls a funny face in American Psycho and bam people find it breathtaking because otherwise he's such a stuckup arrogant scrote so it seems uncanny. Was also a shit and cringe Batman wtf was that stupid voice. His best role was HMC and even then his voice acting was pretty unremarkable.

>>2491410
Only his lower third is attractive. Good jaw and nice shaped lips but the brown eyes look bad with the blonde hair, nose looks like it was hit by a shovel and the rest of him is just a 5-6/10. Slightly above average but nothing to write home about. Very average actor too. The hype around his joker role was just media marketing nonsense.

>>2491446
Hit the wall at 20 and also had a snub nose and lazy eye. I give him points over the other 2 for looking more boyish and cute as opposed to being a horse faced haggot, and also the mitigating factors of actually being a good actor and being literally groomed by a pedo cult since he was a child.

No. 2491463

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>>2491447
Yeah maybe I don't get the obsession with her teeth because I'm originally from a Euro culture even though I've spent most of my life in North America, and grew up watching a lot of European media. I got braces myself and have straight teeth but looking back at pictures from before braces I think I looked cute honestly but people in North America are so used to every single person getting orthodontics that any slight wonkiness in bite like what's common in Japan, the UK, etc. seems to criminally offend them. The blinding white chiclet veneers do really look cheap and low class to me a lot of the time though, they seem to always subtly change people's appearance in an uncanny way. Watch any British TV and that girl doesn't have the worst teeth you'll see by far, they are fairly straight and white she just has a bit of a buck tooth/tooth gap going on.

>>2491452
Re: River Phoenix maybe I have a particular hatred of his looks because I had a middle school "boyfriend" (who was 4 years older than me ew) who looked exactly like him, and I was so physically repulsed by him I broke up with him and thought I was lesbian for 4 years. Something about the snub nose, bad skin/greasy facial hair look, fivehead and tiny uneven eyes combo just imprinted on me negatively I guess. He also looks like a nerd to me if you know what I mean, has that kind of dopey facial expressions. I feel really bad for what happened to him in his life and I can understand why people have sympathy for him but I don't get shilling him as attractive at all.

No. 2491472

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>>2491447
I’ve always been interested in this since it seems to be uniquely American. I wonder if the overabundance of sugary snacks and drinks leads to more dental problems, so having perfect teeth is a sign of not having to rely on or eat junk food. Alternatively, even if you do eat it and develop problems because of it you could still afford the dental work to fix it. As a burger I am always looking at people’s teeth and have remarked multiple times how nice people’s teeth are kek. I remember moving to a HCOL area and being struck by how many people had straight, white teeth there compared to the rural area I moved from. Picrel is actress Sydney Alexander who has very nice teeth. She even starred in a toothpaste commercial.

No. 2491500

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>>2491472
>I wonder if the overabundance of sugary snacks and drinks leads to more dental problems
Yes, more so than you'd think. There was this one researcher who was a dentist by education Weston A. Price, who went to a bunch of tribal societies all over the world and compared their health, especially teeth and jaw structure, to urban areas that had modernized, or compared generations pre-industrual Western food imports to the generations after. He found that not only tooth decay and tooth problems but actual jaw structure, orthodontic problems, facial structure problems etc. were related to the westernized diets. His findings were pretty complicated and people disagree with some of them or think some are cherrypicked (like some people will use his research to promote vegan diets while others will use them to promote carnivore diets) but one of the findings seemed to be not only that eating sugary food caused tooth decay, but also that eating processed foods that were softer and easier to chew caused jaw, gum and facial structure problems, breathing problems, symmetry issues etc.

It's possible that in America good teeth are seen as a sign of not having to eat junk, but it's stupid when basically everyone gets braces, veneers, positioners etc. because it isn't actually a meaningful sign of health at that point anyway, it's just a sign of having enough money to replace your shitty teeth. It's not that dissimilar to plastic surgery/filler or any middle class way of dunking on the poors by just hiding your actual genetics. I know there are actual functional reasons why people with a bad bite might choose to go for orthodontics but the large number of people getting veneers totally unnecessarily is because the natural color of teeth (which is 99% of the time yellow/greyish in adults no matter how healthy their teeth are) has been stigmatized, the same way aquiline noses have been stigmatized leading to tons of rhinoplasties. It allows people to smugly point to someone with naturally healthy teeth and say they have bad dental hygiene or must be a smoker/coffee/sugar addict because people aren't even used to seeing a normal tooth color anymore. I'd personally rather see someone with healthy, natural teeth that are a bit 'discolored' (aka normal tooth colored) or a bit crooked but well taken care of because it's a better sign of actual health and genetic fitness than shaving off all your enamel and putting porcelain over top, but I guess that's what we do now and then bully women who actually take care of themselves and leave their teeth natural.

No. 2491522

>>2491447
>Americans have a weird cultural obsession with perfect teeth
>Many Europeans fly to turkey to get veneers

No. 2491529

File: 1744939871097.jpg (69.88 KB, 1480x833, mike white.jpg)

>>2491439
>wtf is wrong with the casting directors and why would they do this
It's wish fulfilment for the show's creator. I knew it the second I saw that pairing.

No. 2491555

>>2491529
We need to ban old moids from making movies and TV shows, seriously. I'm kind of joking but what can we do to actually promote female writers/directors/casting agents so this stops happening?

No. 2491601

>>2491443
i just said he should have taken better care of his skin. Why are you angry. Being already ugly doesnt mean you dont even have to try, god knows ugly women try their hardest and these retards think that just because they are moids they dont even owe their gfs the decency to take care of their skin.

No. 2491602

>>2491601
nta but she probably tagged you while generally referring to the like three other posts that called him 'cute' lol. I was baffled by that too.

No. 2491603

>>2490435
I've never watched this show but I can't stand how ugly the scrotes are and that 90% of the advertising is about all the clothing brands that the women wear

No. 2491606

File: 1744946465389.webp (7 KB, 300x207, gray-blobs.webp)

>>2491602
He fits the very specific fetish of approachable innocent looking nerds that are currently on the brink of exctinction thanks to beards, porn and HRT and that a lot of women like. Its a shame we cant even have ugly-cute nerds anymore. All moids, from the turbo normie johns, to the ''chads'', to the nerdy virginal guys look the same nowadays. Men are just picrel while women all have different aesthetics and personalities.

No. 2491609

File: 1744946775729.png (261.49 KB, 613x345, deathandotherdetails.png)

>>2491603
A lot of people have told me that the show is good and I should watch it including female friends, and I considered it because it's the type of show that normally would be up my alley, but I think I really can't do it to myself nonnas. I am just so sick of these hideous men being shoved in our faces in media and being told we're supposed to find them 'sexy' while they're playing opposite female love interests that look like they could be their nieces/daughters (or maybe adopted daughters because they're far too pretty to be genetically related to the moids). I never minded watching shows with ugly moids who are acknowledged as ugly and just normal characters, one of my fav shows is Poirot so you can imagine I don't normally watch media for how hot the men are, but it's the suspension of disbelief that these men are hot and desirable that really twists the knife for me and ruins my enjoyment.

Death and Other Details was another one where you had an extremely hot female lead character be extremely sexualized for the whole show (waking up from bed in fancy sexy lingerie, wearing a bathing suit for like 90% of the show, etc) but she had 2 love interests that seemed to be there mainly for gross sex scenes and one of them literally looked like picrel. I would have enjoyed the show more if there wasn't even a male love interest at all instead of suspending my disbelief that the beautiful lead actress character was madly in love at first sight basically with this uggo.

>>2491606
Approachable innocent looking nerds are all gross coomers irl though and I feel like no one used to pretend they were actually attractive until they started to get shilled by the mass media in the 90s/early 2000s. That type is also part of the psyop, they wanted women to believe that these techbro or consoomer men with no real life skills or social skills are actually better than hot men because they're cute! and innocent! and better to women! when they've always been worse than attractive normie men.

No. 2491613

>>2491609
All men are gross coomers irl. Some women just have a fetish for glasses and nerds, no one is saying they are attractive. Its a fetish that some women have, thats it.

No. 2491614

>>2491447
>In France and the UK, the wealthiest and most upper class people almost always have terrible teeth, often literally yellow or grey and crooked as hell

Oh we know. All the smoking doesn't help them either lmao

No. 2491709

>>2491451
I like the way it sets 90% of these men up to fail and I hope it keeps happening.

No. 2491722

>>2491529
He looks like he just hatched

No. 2491728

normalise pogonophobia

No. 2491730

>>2491529
Pretty sure this guy is a fag

No. 2491819

>>2489645
The fact that I find this extremely surprising is crazy, like I thought this for sure was an ad that ran in Japan or Korea or something

No. 2491857

>>2491447
I remember years ago seeing an interview with german actress Diane Kruger and all the american comments were wondering what happened to her teeth. They're perfectly straight, I'd have never even noticed them but to them they were horribly yellow and gross. She spent her youth modeling in Paris, she definitely smoked and drank, plus she's 50, of course they're no longer a bright white? Doesn't mean she lacks hygiene or is ugly because of that.

>>2491819
I was also genuinely surprised, this is so incredibly rare.

No. 2491873

>>2491522
Turkey teeth are the new Spanish tan for Brits. It shows you've been on holiday and are doing well for yourself.
>>2491730
Bisexual, whatever that means for a moid.

No. 2491874

>>2491857
Her teeth aren’t even what most people would consider yellow. Americans are so weird kek

No. 2491876

>>2491392
slutty slut pose

No. 2491879

>>2491410
he’s always looked so incredibly mid to me i never have any idea what anyone’s talking about when they claim he was handsome. his nose is especially ugly

No. 2491969

File: 1744985630456.webp (5.65 KB, 344x240, IMG_1742.webp)

>>2491410
Mid, boring and uninspiring face.
>>2491402
Agree to disagree

My bf seems to think Henry Cavill is the most attractive man in the world. I always thought he was fugly and his disgruntled nerd personality makes him even more unattractive.

No. 2491973

File: 1744985895018.jpg (114.92 KB, 534x1024, Action Man en mission - HASBRO…)

>>2491969
He looks like fucking shit but moids think he's the hottest man who ever lived because he sort of looks like action man I guess

No. 2491982

File: 1744986487758.jpeg (46.28 KB, 321x362, IMG_1743.jpeg)

The human race is finished.

No. 2492035

>>2491874
yeah in fact teeth being slightly "yellow" is how normal enamel looks like. excessive teeth whitening will end up damaging the enamel so america's obsession with pure white teeth is actually harmful

>>2491969
can't stand his mcdonald's arch lookin ass hairline

No. 2492041

>>2491982
Looks like a modern reconstruction of a neanderthal man

No. 2492276

>>2491969
He's ugly to me too, it's not just you. I think it's because he looks like a comic book or action figurine to moids like the other nonna said, like he has that specific handsome squidward kind of jaw and mouth and very nondescript eyes/nose/face shape.

>>2491857
All adults naturally have 'yellow' or 'greyish' teeth, it has nothing to do with smoking or drinking. That's just what healthy teeth look like.

No. 2492987

>>2489989
correct, it's time people understand the way sex socialization is, women are made to believe emotional attachment and love are often related to sex while no moid thinks like this, for them sex is a form of power tripping, white men "dominate" woc by fucking them while the woc believe that since he has sex with them clearly he can't be all that cruel and must be redeemable. it's why male misogynists are obsessed with women despite hating them, they're obsessed with them not as people but as objects, property. that's why moids are never normal about interracial relationships, it's "property" being stolen and taken from them and now they must "retaliate" by stealing some "property" back.

No. 2493676

File: 1745115533160.jpeg (195.97 KB, 1170x1808, Go5WnHuWwAEbEaS.jpeg)

>>2491982
Yep, hes caping for troons, hes ugly inside and out.

No. 2493713

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No. 2493716

>>2493713
this account is literally run by a short, fat black incel with a fugly face

No. 2493717

File: 1745117706271.png (695.77 KB, 1080x1275, 1000021401.png)

>>2493716
He's black? Usually these incel types are white or asian

No. 2493718

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No. 2493721

File: 1745118163272.jpg (125.58 KB, 1179x795, Go24s4TXcAAJMFH.jpg)

>>2491982
>>2493676
This ugly post-wall scrote is the worst example of this shit. Everything that is wrong with modern women's tastes is embodied in this guy. Dumb bitches love him because he's "nonthreatening", they want to imagine that his fugly looks mean they could have him and his woke troonworshipping politics mean he would treat them well. Feminism has brainwashed women into thinking that hot straight guys are somehow more dangerous or sexist than old busted leftist scrotes, when in reality these guys are much worse than the average hot chad. This idiotic logic is behind so much of the ugly scrote worship.

No. 2493750

>>2493718
Literally what kind of comeback is "w-well go back to your harem of sexy men then!" kek. Why yes anon, I think I will

No. 2493757

File: 1745121282507.jpg (378.26 KB, 2560x1266, zoomers.jpg)

>>2493721
So the male feminist can have the overweight super liberal girls raised by academic helicopter parents with no social skills or friends who will go on to write a
6000 word essay for her mom's friend's media outlet about how his gross patchouli scented balls tasted after the newest shawn baker movie. This isn't new or remarkable. The young cool zoomers hate troons and social conformity, unless it is in their immediate best interests, sorry baby lib-fems/future feminist e-zine writers

No. 2493762

>>2493757
>zoomers
why did they choose the most 2010s looking picture i've seen in my entire life to represent zoomers lol

No. 2494296

>>2493713
If only this was the truth, there it would be some hope for the male sex

No. 2494518

File: 1745183414344.png (368.21 KB, 747x780, 22weyKE.png)

thoughts?

No. 2494519

>>2494518
Tweak the face and this would be hot.

No. 2494535

>>2493757
>The young cool zoomers hate troons and social conformity
none of them cool that's where you messed up

No. 2494557

>>2493721
>He missed all the manosphere stuff and it shows.
t. naive little teen girl who thinks the internet wasn't a thing before her time…
When her grownass nigel was roughly her age, Trump was elected for the first time. Even way before that, tons of right-wing, incel, mra channels kept gaining a lot of traction on youtube and shit like 4chan was already a thing during the youth of people way older than even him. So, while Tate might have not had an online presence yet, that moid grew up just as poisoned as nowadays moidlets.

No. 2494767

File: 1745203967091.png (378.75 KB, 742x765, RrG5y0u.png)

(no kpop)

No. 2494774

>>2494518
not twinky enough but they're learning

No. 2494793

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No. 2494795

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No. 2494866

>>2494557
He’s just smart enough to hide it. Todays zoomer males are too coddled and dopamine addicted to keep their retarded opinions to themselves for five minutes in order to impress a girl, but they still all think the same.

No. 2494895

>>2493757
>zoomers hate troons and social conformity
Sure, jan.

No. 2494911

File: 1745222048192.jpg (673.02 KB, 902x1736, 1000058427.jpg)

WHY it's always dumbass shitters?

No. 2494913

>>2494911
I would be more willing to argue but like explain the Luigi threads. That’s an ugly man that was elevated by doing something “good” (personality) and also all the hybristos are crawling out the woodwork cause muh he’s violent but not to me fantasy.

No. 2494920

>>2494911
Imo its a defense mechanism. Women know men are violent, we know we are more likely to be killed if we date a man than if we dont. Thats why these women develop these weird fetishes in response, they acknowledge the nature of men, they know they cant change it. So they cope by making up a fantasy when those moids are violent to anyone BUT them. The wash your penis guy will never admit this because he's a moid who unironically believes women and men suffered equally through history.

No. 2494923

>>2494895
Zoomers love conformity disguised as non conformity.

No. 2495071

>>2494911
Hybristophilia is just an archaic survival strategy for women. Knowing you can't physically overpower a moid so trying to placate him with sex. So many 'toxic' female behaviors are a result of male violence. Gossiping, intrasexual competition, passive aggressive behavior and manipulation, hypergamy, obsessing over trying to look young and attractive, being a boymom. It's all just women trying to survive male chimpouts.

No. 2495092

>>2494911
>>2495071
sometimes I'm happy I'm a turbo autist and I never had the desire to get close to a man or "compete" with other women
Yet both women and men were spreading rumors about me fucking like 4 different guys, even though I'm still a virgin to this day. I couldn't even reply with a common dicency to some work related topic when a guy asked me something at work, because people would make up shit about me. It's amazing how I'm unwillingly a part of this shit even though realistically I am not sexually and romantically involved with males. I hate heterosexual dynamics and I wish those retards just left me alone and killed each other tbh. At this point so many women actively endrose scrote behavior and pornsickess I don't feel sorry for them at all, they deserve what they get

No. 2495104

>>2493718
>"you're not even ideal to fuck"
>"go hop back to your Chad harem, weirdo"
so what is it then? is she a fugly bitch or an evil Stacy with strapping young men at her beck and call? can't believe these irrational illogical things have the right to vote.

No. 2495116

>>2494911
It's probably a 4chan refugee. I hate moids so much, they invade everything

No. 2495129

>>2493713
God i wish i lived in the alternate universe incels think they live on

No. 2495278

>>2495116
Like the parasites they are

No. 2495379

>>2489541
Yuzuru is absolutely speculated to be a closet faggot. He married a woman for the press and divorced her pretty soon after. I hate the term femboy like crazy because it seemed to come out of the tumblr/twt troon propaganda after 2016. Men cant be pretty or else they're troons in the making according to these weirdos, but Yuzuru really strikes a lot of people as a faggot who cant come out of the closet because of his level of fame and being Japanese. Japan would never accepted him if he came out as gay.

>>2491384
I hate this ugly man so much. I feel like they are shoe horning him into every single role now because dumb ass zoomers and young millenials are throwing their money at the screen. He is every single uncle I've seen at my family gathering ugly. And of course Susan storm is played by a super young and beautiful woman. fuck it

>>2493676
His younger brother is a troon (MTF) and he openly caps for them and other gendies. He wants to remain relevant and unfortunately, a lot of liberal women are eating it up.

No. 2495418

File: 1745259920134.png (122.25 KB, 365x523, this gotta be bait.png)

What the fuck is this inb4 hide the thread waaahh! No. This is about self respect. Of which there is none apparently.

No. 2495423

>>2495418
We need a hybristo purge this is getting too much

No. 2495445

>>2495418
What imageboard is this from? Who the fuck genuinely find those speds attractive?

No. 2495447

>>2495445
I have bad news. It's /g/

No. 2495448

>>2495104
the madonna-whore adjacent mindset is always prevalent in these types of males. in the eyes of these scrotal subhumans, the only two categories of woman are (and i quote) stacylite succubus evil maneating foid or fugly walled cat lady. tale as old as time.

No. 2495455

>>2495423
Cerb is literally a weegee wife, it’s never happening.

No. 2495456

>>2495455
We need to stage a coup

No. 2495534

>>2495418
This thread pics just makes it seem like there really aren't good looking criminals out there

No. 2495536

>>2495534
Wheres the lie

No. 2495582

>>2495536
Nowhere I guess, but they didn't need to use such an extreme example, which makes me think it's just bait, but the thread was left unlocked for some reason

No. 2495608

File: 1745272039468.jpg (112.36 KB, 1400x700, 1000028281.jpg)

In the second episode of The last of us season 2, the one where Joel gets killed, Abby says to Joel (played by busted Pedro Pascal)
>You are pretty handsome
KEKK I laughed my fucking ass off at that scene. This is probably the most forced and insincere line of dialogue in television history. I was happy when that motherfucker died, at least in the show

No. 2495700

>>2495608
I hope they made it as violent as the scene in the game, or did they cop out?

No. 2495790

>>2495700
I would say it was pretty graphic, final blow is Abby stabbing his neck with a stick instead of beating his head with it one last time kek

No. 2495886

File: 1745285217379.jpg (34.32 KB, 640x480, sddefault.jpg)

Moids see this and think
>yup, facial hair is really making me look hotter and more mature
Pickmes see this and claim
>he looked just as good in the before! i like my man with some meat, in fact it is actually quite sexy!
It makes me so angry that nearly all of them would have the potential to not be as much of an eyesore but they hate us too much to even try a little.

No. 2495903

>>2495608
You can literally go to any area with a lot of latinos and see multiple old guys with this same look, I dont get it. I dont think hes hideous. Just so… old and average

No. 2496548

I need a 3rd opinion, a friend and I was pondering if it's worse if a moid is shorter than you or bald.
She said she would take a baldy if he was 6ft+ while I said I rather choose a manlet with hair.
So what is worse a moid that is taller than you, but bald or a moid that may be shorter than you but with a head full of hair?

No. 2496551

>>2496548
This is solely dependent on what you value in a male (youthful beauty or masculine appearance). If you're more towards thinks you'd probably choose the hair-having mallet but if you valued masculine attributes like height and muscle, then you'd probably choose the baldy that's 6ft.

No. 2496565

>>2496548
Are you picking a moid for companionship only or potentially a father? If you are looking at him as breeding stock what attributes do you want from him, although it’s really his mother who will be contributing the most genetically.

No. 2496585

>>2496548
Manlet with hair. It is impossible for a male to be bald and attractive. I’m glad that the height thing is making men insecure, they deserve it, but the idea that a dude is hot just from being tall even if he looks like a disgusting inbred ape is part of the psyop.

No. 2496591

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And yet they would never release a female character who is as fat as this. The response would have been a 100x more negative if he was a female character.

No. 2496593

>>2496548
Hair. I hate super tall men since they always treat me like a child and its legit so fucking creepy, a tall bald man would look a registered sex offender to me.

No. 2496619

>>2495886
I saw this yesterday and wanted to post it there but glad someone else did instead. I was literally thinking the same nonna, guys will see this shit and insist that facial hair is good and that he looks gay in the after when the guys literally looks way younger and better.

No. 2496651

>>2496548
Ive seen so many facially hot guys who are shorter than me (im 170 cm so like 5'7). Tbh it depends on your type. I like "pretty boys" and that type of smaller face/skinny build etc matches shorter guys and tbh i just dont care about height. But i cant imagine dating someone who is bald cause like i said, im into pretty guys and the semi long hair is a part of the look.
I get that for nonas who like muscular builds etc, height does matter. It looks weird when short dudes are the wide type of muscular. I feel like being skinny or lean is a must if youre a manlet.

No. 2496673

>>2493717
This tracks given these days the majority of redpill/manosphere moids are black.

No. 2496694

File: 1745355510949.jpg (36.82 KB, 480x612, gettyimages-461875982-612x612.…)

re: threadpic

black women will marry the most ugly and unappealing white men

No. 2496700

File: 1745355875972.jpg (59.01 KB, 636x382, 1000023121.jpg)

>>2496694
Asian women will do that too, but I think it's mostly because of how many of them are thirdies who just want to escape her home countries. Black women, at least the American ones, seem to "move" with no rhyme or reason when they actually open up and date out. So far, the only instance I can name off the top of my head where a black woman gets with a white man that's actually nice to look at is Nara with Lucky Blue, and even then Nara is biracial.

No. 2496703

>>2496700
If you have to make the distinction then you know she isn't black. Idk why people still do that nonsense. Black people are not half another race. She is mixed with black not a black woman.

No. 2496705

>>2496703
Then the fact that I officially cannot name a couple where a black woman is with an attractive white man is even sadder.

No. 2496719

File: 1745357095244.jpg (23.08 KB, 640x734, 1000021453.jpg)

>>2496694
Counterpoint:

No. 2496732

>>2496719
Incredible hunter eyes on this one kek

No. 2496823

File: 1745363397266.mp4 (16.67 MB, 720x1280, 1000021458.mp4)

Thoughts on the looksmaxxing community?

No. 2496825

>>2496705
cody rhodes

No. 2496828

>>2496823
It's triggering me how the crosses and ticks don't seem to follow a pattern in this video.

No. 2496843

File: 1745365178437.jpg (110.73 KB, 1080x1079, 1000004924.jpg)

>>2496823
>subliminals

No. 2496849

>>2496843
longest attention span on lolcow

No. 2496868

>>2496823
does he have a lazy eye?

No. 2497058

>>2496694
Irish guys love black girls, this is a super common northern city pairing amongst wmbf in the US. He’s no Evan peters or kj apa but at least he’s rich.

No. 2497076

>>2496548
Absolutely worse if he's bald. Shorter is fine, it's not really a problem imo unless you're very short yourself.

>>2496732
I'm sorry but he looks mentally retarded, especially in that photo. Hunter eyes just seems to be some weird code for 'looks like there's nothing rattling around in the skull.'

No. 2497081

>>2496823
I Love looksmaxxers its a shame they are all most definetly cluster B and have crazy egos.

No. 2497261

>>2497058
>Irish guys
I thought you meant actual Irish guys from Ireland… please stop calling Amerimoids Irish

No. 2497266

File: 1745396824805.png (374.17 KB, 445x689, byk95jvqgft91.png)

>>2497076
anons calling dolph lundgren ugly is a psyop in itself. don't you guys belong in the "criminals that are hot" thread posting about adam lanza or something?

No. 2497268

>>2497076
Dolph is known for being very intelligent. He had a Fulbright Scholarship to MIT and has a serious academic and scientific background.

No. 2497276

>>2497266
>not liking brickheads means you want to fuck adam lanza
wtf?

No. 2497277

>>2497276
love yourself

No. 2497281

>>2497277
I am sorry but your husbando is insanely ugly and looks like a fag. Imagine being a moid in the 80s and having ugly anime shonen protagonist spiky hair instead of long flowy hair. Disgusting.(infight bait)

No. 2497283

>>2489557
Truth is, sports can be expensive to attend if you don't live with mom and dad and or don't have a job. A gym membership is more flexible and cost efficient way to not waste away even if its dreadfully vain and boring.

That's at least I my country.

No. 2497306

File: 1745400673362.jpeg (794.97 KB, 1290x1572, IMG_2365.jpeg)

Video of a beautiful woman calmly lamenting on the fact that she never sees attractive men out and about and consistently sees beautiful women. Obviously it’s Reddit and full of hideous mouth breathers seething about it. They insist she’s lesbian, shallow, mid, when they can’t accept the reality that she’s correct. They cope in every way imaginable rather than owning up to the fact they look unkempt and disgusting on average. A huge thing is them positing that having money gives them access and they don’t need to focus on appearance. It does give them access but in the most pathetic way, as they are being used. Their money doesn’t physically turn anyone on, rather some will endure how repulsive they are to benefit. What’s worse is seeing some pickme remark “why should anyone care how men look!” Because it’s offensive to behold and I don’t want to look at ugly moids every waking second I’m outside. You would think with them becoming more irrelevant as we excel in education and the work force they would slightly try but they dig their heels in.

No. 2497366

>>2496843
He said they don't work

No. 2497429

>>2497306
>why should anyone care how men look!”

God I hate pick mes so much.I care!! I don't want to look at an ugly balding man everyday. It's bad enough I have to see them in public

No. 2497437

>>2497268
That's nice but I didn't say he was stupid, I said his 'hunter eyes' in that photo (as well as 99% of other 'hunter eyes' that I've seen) make him look mentally retarded. It's possible for people to look stupid in a photo and be smart.

>>2497266
Uhh what the actual fuck is this supposed to mean, I don't like the appearance of some oiled up bodybuilder incel gigachad meme looking male with a kindergartener haircut who, if he hadn't been famous 40yrs ago and dated an iconic supermodel, would be called an ugly podcast roidcel bro in this thread for sure, and suddenly I'm only attracted to school shooters? Come now.

>>2497283
Agree with this (and even wrote a whole post about it a few days ago) but it shouldn't be this way. There should be a casual culture of playing sports or even just doing sporty activities outside like capture the flag or something with your friends. I know we currently don't have that culture but it is a mistake. A bunch of mostly gay and roiding moids holed up in a sweaty basement somewhere looking at themselves in mirrors and taking vanity selfies just doesn't do the good for moids that even vague normal physical activity does in healthier settings.

No. 2497444

>>2496548
Manlet with a hair, obviously. He has to be lean too
>>2497266
He is handsome yes, but he would be unmatchable if he had softer features. Nonas here value pretty boy looks a lot. I just think it was based of Grace Jones to date a younger, hot moid (and smart) like him back then. Perhaps if more women did that we wouldn't be so doomed. She should have set a trend.

No. 2497451

>>2497306
She’s right. Bad economic times cause this when women date for financial security. Open borders, outsourcing manufacturing all led to this.

No. 2497465

>>2496823
I honestly love it (but I know that nonnies complained about it in previous threads).
Just look at this guy >>2495886 he went from the typical subhuman white moid to looking decades younger, fit body, perfect baby skin, complete turn of style and I think he even works as a model now. You'd have never even noticed that he has big eyes in the before. Of course there's still plenty of ogres out there who are beyond saving but most (young) moids could at least be athletic with nice skin.
Those "I only show off my hollow cheeks on omegle"-type of looksmaxxers are retarded but the ones who are more fitness influencer types often really manage to change a lot through effort (how rare for moids) and still grew in height and changed their face for the better.

What always cheers me up after a long day of seeing monsters outside are those super faggy pls god compilations. They're all just thristing after chico and co while some gayclub edit of lady gaga (or lana) is playing in the back kek

No. 2497474

>>2497306
>“why should anyone care how men look!”
We need to care more, honestly. They're held to such an insanely low standard and it's disgusting. If you're a man you can walk about with your fat beer belly and chicken legs and no-one even says anything. You can literally stink up public spaces because you can't be arsed to put on deodorant or go in the shower and it's not even criticized half as much as when a woman slightly steps out of line in terms of beauty or hygiene.

Biologically, men have even less excuse to be ugly or out of shape. They have lower body fat on average = easier to look toned or muscular. They put muscle on far easier than women. They don't have to go through the menstrual cycle or childbirth which has natural fluctuations in the body and can limit exercise or training. The only thing moids have to do is help raise children, provide for and protect the vulnerable, and just wash their ass now and then and they can't even be arsed to do any of that. The fact that the "dad bod" is a term now is just actually pathetic to me, while real women's postpartum bodies aren't even accepted or seen as beautiful.

No. 2497496

>>2497281
Long flowy hair on a man is disgusting and extremely faggy nona.

No. 2497507

>>2497306
>why should anybody care what your life partner youll have to look at almost everyday for rest of their life looks like?
I mean, looks fade obvs, but being with somebody you explicitly find unattractive and unappealing will never end up well, i feel like this is obvious but reddit MRAs have room temp IQ sadly

No. 2497518

File: 1745419778231.jpeg (Spoiler Image,560.44 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_2723.jpeg)

Jfc they need to stop with this shit.
Unspoiler with caution because half naked walton goggins in briefs.

No. 2497521

>>2497306
Of course redditors would seethe about this but she's right, as a bisexual who notices both beautiful women and beautiful men I see like 100 women per day I'm physically attracted to and maybe like 5 men at most I could be attracted to, and I never even considered myself all that picky with male appearance until I realized how low other women's standards are. Of course incel moids are miserable with their mindset of 'women will date me because I have the benefit of (probably, maybe) making more money than them' because they know those women will never actually want to have sex with them or actually genuinely like them romantically. They're literally memeing themselves into an incel mindset but they won't give it up even as women consistently make gains in work and education and stop needing them.

>>2497507
It absolutely should be obvious to moids that they will be miserable and their self esteem will suffer if they trap women who aren't attracted to them into relationships purely for material gain but I guess they're too stupid to realize this so instead they whine about hypergamy and women lusting over imaginary werewolf alien moids in trashy fiction instead because they're constantly reminded that their gfs/wives don't even like them. Also being genuinely attracted to someone and then seeing their looks fade with age is completely different for a relationship than never being attracted to them at all - if someone loses some of their attractive features with age at least they still have features that remind you of the person you were initially attracted to and in love with, but if the moid starts out ugly you don't even have that.

>>2497496
No it isn't, how stupid. Most actual gay men have very short hair anyway, long hair in the modern era is mostly a straight man thing and it's also a sign of good health, virility, and good hygiene.
Posts like this contribute to the psyop, it's natural for both sexes to value signs of health and fertility like clean, shiny long hair.

No. 2497523

>>2497518
Isnt that the weirdo actor who had a strange emotional cheating issue going on with an actress half his age? Iirc someone on white lotus or whatever.

No. 2497524

>>2497518
Ew, he's genuinely so insanely repulsive. The last picture reminds me of a homeless schizo moid you walk in on doing drugs in a portapotty.

No. 2497527

>>2497496
Nta but most men with that hair (if it's taken care of) aren't faggy in the slightest, have you seen native men? Actual faggots have those super short shaved sides cuts. Anons have got to stop associating attractive traits with homos and look at what the actual homos do. Might as well say it's gay for a man to bathe.

No. 2497528

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>>2497518
Oh hell no. He's so disgusting, with that large cavernous gluttonous maw of his. The top left image actually made me gasp and feel uncomfortable. What the fuck is this? He literally looks like a sex offender or a retro crossdresser (same thing I guess kek). We can't even use the wall logic with this scrote either because he was always ugly as fuck even when he was young. Also spoilered for evil shadow skull jumpscare.

No. 2497550


No. 2497729

>>2497518
He looks like a burn victim who then also had acid poured over his face

No. 2497760

File: 1745432845547.jpg (190.93 KB, 1063x833, 1000023145.jpg)

>>2497528
lock his ass up.
lock his ass up.
lock his ass up.

No. 2497763

>>2497528
lol people only like him now bc of the fallout show

No. 2497822

>>2497521
>It absolutely should be obvious to moids that they will be miserable and their self esteem will suffer if they trap women who aren't attracted to them into relationships
They're somehow don't see the connection between the ubiquity of dead bedrooms/the stereotype of wives not wanting sex (having a headache, lying back and thinking of england etc) to the fact that most women likely married men they aren't attracted to.

What the fuck did they expect by systematically pressuring women to lower their standards for looks endlessly? For telling us they're the visual ones and we aren't, so if we take appearance into account we're evil and shallow and will die alone? They simultaneously make sure women obsessively optimize our appearances to be as hot as possible while thinking they have no obligation to improve their own, then are surprised that their wives do not want to fuck them. Surprise, it's because they are not fuckable!

No. 2497881

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Saw this and thought of this thread. Dont think we even need to see a pic of this guy WE JUST KNOW. Not even cute doggos are safe and also I know im not supposed to complain and OP was just being on point but the thread pic is beyond gross

No. 2497957

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The uglier they are the more bitter they are about women women avoiding ugly men isnt just about preference but survival.

No. 2497981

>>2497957
Jesus christ, he looks like a goblin

No. 2497995

>>2497881
My theory about men being jealous of single women's pets has just been reinforced. They hate "cat ladies" and accuse women of fucking dogs, because they see these pets as competition. Why would a woman ever stay single with a pet when she could be with a male penis. Male brains are primitive at their core, it doesn't matter how educated they get.

No. 2498068

All this grooming discussion is making me think of my grandpa and how even in his old age he was always well dressed with combed hair and clean shaven.
Wtf happened to that?

No. 2498158

File: 1745457105032.webp (20.52 KB, 610x458, IMG_2742.webp)

>>2497957
They always have that ghoulish phenotype

No. 2498258

File: 1745461659786.jpg (136.22 KB, 1051x698, desperate.jpg)

Non brit nonna's please pray for us we have it especially bad here with fellow britbongs ecouraging this

No. 2498366

>>2497957
I want to provide extra milk on this guy for anons who don't know much about Myron. Myron was booolied in high school and college by racist white chads who took all the girls he wanted and so now as an adult man pushing 40, he still has a complex about feeling like he has to settle for black women (his race, he's east african) hence why he goes on rants about ghetto bitches blah blah blah. He also has a bunch of homoerotic pics with the so called white chads who had him as their token black friend and emasculated him. As of late, he has been invading racist twitter spaces insisting that he isn't afraid to have a conversation with literal racists and also had a mask off moment where he implied that he saw himself as white. Currently, his podcast is in the shitter because of all the scandals him and his co-host have been getting into whether it be a baby scare with a random pageant lady (this was his co-host btw) and a clear rift forming between them because it's clear Myron thinks his co-host is a degen and adds nothing to the podcast. Myron has also been whining about da jews too much for his co-host's liking who has to come in and try and get him to stop. Myron is still not married despite almost hitting middle aged, his only interaction with women are whores from seeking arrangements and onlyfans creators who want to be on the podcast to promote their shit. As said, is still seething about being emasculated in his youth and is bitter about not being born white. Plus he has a bald spot, bringing him closer to his associate >>2498158 who he should probably kiss and run away to the sunset with. I hate that i know so much about this loser, but now i share my information with you.

No. 2498370

>>2498366
Increedible nonna thank you for this, do you think if someone planted the seed for transracialism in his head that he'd be making Turn White subliminals eventually? He seems crazy enough.

No. 2498383

>>2498068
The first half of this post scared me

No. 2498488

>>2498366
And his real name isn't even Myron Gaines, he just changed it to a white sounding name. His actual name is Amrou Fudl. He and Andrew look way too similar. The both have that ape-ogre hybrid phenotype

No. 2498489

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No. 2498491

>>2498489
Note to self: stay away from hotdog head shaped faggots with ugly stubbles and mutt ears that try to leave their skulls.

No. 2498502

>>2498491
I would have hoped you were already doing that nonna but keep it up.

>>2498366
Thanks for the info anon I actually do my best to not know anything about those two moids but I keep seeing them being mentioned by people. It's sort of OT (ish) for the thread but I really don't understand what the appeal of this type of podcasters is for the young males who follow them who don't seem to have their same problems of pushing 40 with zero relationships under their belts. How often do women idolize ugly, bitter coomer women with no accomplishments? Not very often I think so I don't get why moidlets with actual potential to still have good lives look up to and emulate this type of pathetic talentless cuck scrote.

No. 2498506

>>2498502
Oh I definitely was before I started working again. Now I'm forced to help anyone that comes in, even if they're fugly scrotes. Naturally, I get very robotic with specimens like that. I go in, do what I need to do for them, don't react to any of their jokes or small talk, and have then leave when everything is done.

No. 2498511

>>2498506
If you have to work with them it seems like you're doing your best to avoid them already, nonna.

No. 2498513

>>2498511
Stoicism is an amazing coping mechanism for looking at ugly mugs.

No. 2498692

It's so annoying how hypocritical and insecure most men are. If I mention that I like pretty boys (even just fictional characters or something), I instantly get called superficial, shallow and generally insulted for what I like. Meanwhile, they can keep gooning to stacies and pretty 2D women and make the most inappropriate comments about them 24/7 and no one gives a shit. And if I give them shit back or just think the way they talk about women is gross and dehumanizing (unlike just me casually saying "yeah that guy is attractive" or something when I like a guy's looks) then I'm just jealous.

I can't even have my preferences without some retarded moid trying to question me and acting like I'm strange for having them. I had one recently acting like not liking bald men and beards makes me odd and it's just like, how have we gotten to this point that just not being into baldies and beards is this surprising. How is it weird or unreasonable for me to not want bearded men if most men expect me to have to shave my legs, armpits and other areas of my body for them. How is it too picky to not want a baldy if most men literally wouldn't date me if I was bald too and women are expected to have full heads of pretty hair.

Only a few men (and women) actually accepted my preferences and didn't act like this. Even in relationships if I dated a guy that shaved and had longer hair I would get shit from my mom because he wasn't "masculine" enough and she would try to pressure me into dating someone else and constantly say he must be gay. It's draining how you literally can't exist and just like hot guys without someone constantly trying to put you down and trying to push the psyop on you.

No. 2498697

I mentioned that I like blonde guys (to a guy that never shuts up about giant tits being the epitome of female beauty) and he replied ‘kys’ and stopped talking to me LOL

No. 2498703

What's with reddit and all the hate against women who don't buy into the old man sexy bullshit? Apparently you're a pedophile if you don't like wrinkly moids or facial hair. What's even worse is seeing women saying they're growing to like men with wrinkles and a belly or white hair.

No. 2498725

>>2498692
>if I dated a guy that shaved and had longer hair I would get shit from my mom because he wasn't "masculine" enough and she would try to pressure me into dating someone else and constantly say he must be gay.
Ugh I got this from my family too. It was so bad at some point that I genuinely started to believe that my high school boyfriend of 4 years might be gay because my family members (mom especially) kept implying that just because he was a prettyboy and also had a nice, sweet personality and didn't have a huge ego. I literally kept trying to catch him talking to guys and shit before I realized I was acting insane and being gaslit by crazies. Ironically he was like one of the two most popular (with girls) guys in my grade so I was letting myself get bullied for dating the (my school's equivalent of) teen movie hot jock by family essentially because "oh what is he, a girl?" I will also never understand why (especially female) family members sabotage their female relatives like this.

>>2498703
It's probably because the average redditor moid you're interacting with is pushing 40, fat, bald and still single or in some kind of poly situation and thinks he will get a hot young girlfriend any day now. You're shattering his illusion nonna. Even the non-single ones spend their time on reddit because they're miserable with self esteem issues and hate to hear that they are actually considered ugly.

No. 2498734

>>2498692
There were just a handful of middle aged mommies who posed #HAES bullshit inspirational quotes on Facebooklike a decade ago, and the scrotes continue to sperg out over how all women want to shame them into fucking ugly fatties.
They’re perfectly capable of understanding how annoying and jealous women come off when they do it, but have absolutely no reservations about shaming women literally every single time for expressing the same sentiments.
Men just want to manifest you being into their fat, old, ugly asses. But since they are men they conflate their beliefs with facts. It’s selfish and petty when women do it, but when men do it, it’s restoring the natural order or whatever the fuck.

No. 2498738

>>2498692
Most bizarre comment I always get is men calling you a closeted lesbian for liking attractive young men.
I do not like how often misogynistic men get called homosexual, but it feels like an accidental homosexual confession. If they think the man is attractive enough to fuck, then they just be “more like a woman”, therefore, any woman who likes these men must be lesbians.

No. 2498764

>>2498725
It was women who were attacking other women who said they liked pretty boys. One of the funniest posts was a woman saying that they'd understand when they're older, as if they'll suddenly be forced to like uglies.
>>2498692
My mom is into those asian dramas and she loves pretty boys, we fangirl over some of those actors together kek. She knows if rather he alone than dating an uggo.

Maybe related to this, but one of my friends who's into a 10+ year relationship with a tall balding guy who was or is still toxic to her was poking fun at me for liking pretty boys and 2d/3d boys. But she's the type who's afraid to be alone and settle for this shit and too weak to be single and happy. It shocks me how some women think landing a guy, even a shitty one, is an accomplishment and they shit on women who choose to remain single because no guy meets their standards.

No. 2498775

>>2498370
Someone please do this. He’d produce a great amount of milk.

No. 2498780

>>2498738
What a self-own to say women are lesbian for liking attractive men, they're basically admitting they're all hideous by nature.

>>2498764
If they're actual women and not "women" then most likely it's because the small number of actual women who can tolerate reddit for any length of time are usually extreme handmaidens to the fat middle aged balding poly moids on the site. They're outnumbered like 5 to 1 by the moids and internalize the reddit moid beliefs spending time on there. It's basically pickme central when it comes to social media sites.

>landing a guy, even a shitty one, is an accomplishment and they shit on women who choose to remain single because no guy meets their standards.

These types of women have extremely low self esteem as well which they need to soothe by being partnered up at all times (feels safer for their ego than remaining single and trying to have high standards). They're naturally resentful of women who don't do this because it's a sign of higher self-esteem and self respect to be willing to stay single and reminds them that their choice to stay in unhappy relationships with subpar guys is a form of self-harm. No one likes being reminded they have a problem they're not solving, it's like how many alcoholics won't hang out with teetotallers and try to get them to drink too because it makes them feel attacked and insecure.

No. 2498963

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>>2498764
NOOOO! YOU HAVE TO LUST AFTER THIS FUCKING TROLL INSTEAD!! HES SOOOO HOT AND HE COULD LITERALLY BE YOUR DADDY!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN “VIAGRA”? ARE YOU A PEDOPHILE OR A COUGAR OR SOMETHING????? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WANT A MAN WHOS PENIS STILL WORKS ORGANICALLY?!!?!?

No. 2498966

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>>2498963
MEN LITERALLY AGE LIKE A FINE WINE, PLS BELIEVE ME!!! WHENEVER I SEE A MAN IN HIS 20S THE FIRST THING I THINK IS “HE NEEDS 100 WRINKLES AND A FAT GUT AND E.D OR HE CANT BE MUH DADDY”!!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU ARENT LOOKING FOR A FATHER SURROGATE AND YOU WANT A SUBMISSIVE BOY TOY INSTEAD? ARE YOU CRAZY? WHAT WOMAN IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DOESNT WANT TO BE SPANKED BY A STINKY HAILTOSIS SCENTED PENSIONER WITH A FLOPPY COCK?!???!

No. 2498975

>>2498966
Nonna you should probably calm down a little but I agree completely especially with the idea that somehow when we see a hot man we should fantasize about him being fat, bald and with a melted face. I've come to terms with the fact that if I stay with my bf for the long term I will just have to deal with him getting uglier (he will have to deal with me getting uglier too) but in what universe would any woman prefer for the man to come pre-aged?

No. 2498994

>>2498966
Why get with a guy who looks your age when you could look like a father-daughter incest porn instead?

No. 2499030

File: 1745521317774.png (1.1 MB, 1224x2081, walled.png)

Imagine if a 24 year old woman looked like this, nobody would be giving her any grace

No. 2499032

>>2499030
He looks 34, if anything. Those commenters must be aging like bananas and are trying to make it seem like it's normal

No. 2499036

>>2499030
>normal 24 year old
I'm sorry zoomer nonnas if this is true. 24 year old moids did not look like that when I was 24.

No. 2499037

>>2499030
>not overly wrinkled, normal for his age
>already has really noticeable eye wrinkles at 24
I'm almost 30 and I have no wrinkles like this (or at all), they're coping hard. If it was a woman they'd definitely say she's hit the wall and looks horrible, 100%. And he didn't even look good in the picture on the right too lol

No. 2499038

>>2499036
It’s from the steroids

No. 2499060

>>2499037
TBF men do get more (and deeper) wrinkles earlier than women, much earlier. It's just natural for them. It probably takes women until their late 40s or 50s to get the kind of visible wrinkles moids get in their thirties. But he still shouldn't look like that at 24yo. I would have guessed he was like 37-38 as an early 30s woman, most of my peers don't look that bad yet.

No. 2499062

>>2499030
He looks 40 on the left. Are these people actually retarded?

No. 2499066

>>2499030
No. He doesn’t look like a normal anything, let alone in his 20’s. He looks genuinely sick. It’s worrisome. Males openly celebrate sickliness and unhealthiness, I don’t get it.

No. 2499071

is there anyway to post about pre-wall handsome/pretty faces without posting child actors who were raped when they were young?

No. 2499078

>>2499071
No. Males rape anything youthful.

No. 2499111

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>>2499038
This guy definitely isn't taking any of that, he got his "career" because he was posing as a wannabe uwu underage little twink who's gaybaiting 24/7. Him and his bros (+those embarrassing elevator boys) were kind of considered the most "attractive" german influencers, getting flown out for modeling gigs and even the oscars, so this being the best that we have is even more sad.

No. 2499116

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Female tiktokers like Addison Rae might be annoying af but at least they're objectively hot. As a moid you can start to get a middle-aged pig body in your early 20s and still get treated like an uwu babygirl, just look at his huge meaty head, the beginning of a potbelly already clearly forming under his shirt and those fat womanly thighs…gross. His friend also clearly has the height of a child but at least his weight isn't blowing up and his skin/jawline is much firmer. Why? He's only half-white.

No. 2499117

>>2499111
I swear he's actually a fag though. There was a whole drama back in 2020-21 with his then-boyfriend (Jorge?) where they were accused of grooming and sending dickpics to a 15-year-old, and then he ended up faking his own suicide or something kek

No. 2499118

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>>2499116
Here it's even worse, if a woman suddenly had such head/facial growth, people would believe she has gigantism kek

No. 2499123

>>2499118
It constantly baffles me how men are allowed to get away with looking deformed, bloated, dishevelled etc 24/7 and still get praised to the high heavens and swooned over by retarded zoomer girls, whereas any notable woman seen with even a hair out of place are subject to an internet shitstorm of moids going batshit over how hideous she is

No. 2499137

>>2499116
Those outfits though. I'm all for men being into fashion or whatever but not like this. WTF even is that suit on the right what 7' 300lb man did he even steal it from?

>>2499118
My mom had actual acromegaly and it took like 15 years for anyone to notice because her head/hand/whatever growth was so subtle it was hard to notice. 24yo moids get more acromegaly symptoms in a year than my mom got in over a decade with actual acromegaly, nuts.

No. 2499140

>>2498489
Fug and fuglier.

No. 2499165

>>2497995
Reminds me of the creepy old moid I would see sometimes to pay my phone bill, but would not trust to not snap the neck of my pet rabbit who he will never, ever, ever meet. The first time he raged out was when I wanted to go home to feed her and give her water. Don't trust a man who is weird about your pet or who gets irrationally angry when you try to be a responsible pet owner.

No. 2499223

>>2497465
If only looksmaxxing was more in the metrosexual sort of sphere rather than riddled with incels, womanhaters and white supremacists. Sigh. I support the action but not the retarded ideology behind it all. It's all so ridiculously homosocial/bordering on full on homosexual, if they were actually doing all this in order to groom themselves and look good for the benefit of women rather than showing off to their weird friends I would be all for it. I love how it's made teenage boys and young men far closer to being as insecure about their looks as their female counterparts though. Like yes, get those male anorexia rates up!

No. 2499294

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I opened netflix and I was met with vintage japanese psyop, apparently it's really good and I guess japanese media doesn't go as hard with uggo men with pretty women, which would make the premisse not completely irrelevant… but no, I can't take it seriously.

No. 2499301

>>2499116
Yes nothing says attractive like an ill-fitting suit.

No. 2499303

I hate the general assumption that a man who takes care of how he looks has to be gay. All it does is give loser moids an excuse not to shave or cut their hair or wear anything except a stained meme hoodie. I hate it when women, especially older women, push it too, just because their Nigel decided to gain fifty pounds and migrate all his hair to his back after they got married.

No. 2499329

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>>2499303
>I hate the general assumption that a man who takes care of how he looks has to be gay
Same, holy shit. And I blame the hippie movement and counterculture shit for pushing this. True, it led to bellbottoms, and thus, men wearing tight pants, but other than that, it just let men grow into slobs. And men will keep telling each other that women don't care about this, and that any man who does this is a fag. It's just another form of crab-bucket mentality.

No. 2499355

>>2499303
Ironically a lot of gay moids actually look a lot closer to the ugly man psyop moid ideals like fat hairy 'bears,' those hitler youth haircut with aggressively preppy style type guys or roidpigs. I rarely see gay men with style or aesthetics that would appeal to your average woman or fit into the pretty boy aesthetic.

>>2499329
Some of the original hippie men took way better care of their appearance and had much better style/grooming than modern moids though. Long hair, accessories wearing, thinness, tight fitting clothes etc. were all common staples of the hippie look even if they also popularized stupid facial hair in a lot of cases. Most fugly moids now don't even have anything in common with hippie aesthetics other than the facial hair, they literally just look like fat ogres.

No. 2499413

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A really good example of the ugly man psyop in action this guy has been gassed up by a lot of ugly misogynist men and a few delusional women to the point he says shit like this with a face like that. The kicker? His @ is afraid of no woman, like why would you be afraid of a woman as a man? What a lily livered little chicken shit.

No. 2499428

>>2499413
Lolll that face. No way anyone is gassing him up with genuine intentions. He looks like a caricature brought to life with AI.

No. 2499429

>>2499413
Good Lord those eye bags are no joke…

No. 2499430

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>>2499413
he looks like a fish

No. 2499433

>>2499413
Damn he looks really bad, which is saying something given the state of men these days.

No. 2499442

>>2499413
Preppy Lurch

No. 2499505

>>2499413
i thank god everyday i didnt get this pinhead larry head shape

No. 2499518

>>2499413
oh boy what flavor

No. 2499544

>>2499116
The one on the right has a nice face

No. 2499572

>>2498975
No I will not calm down, fuck you and your fat ugly nigel.

No. 2499578

>>2499116
the one on the right looks like a little kid that stole his father suit

No. 2499581

>>2499413
Didn't he have a heart attack like recently?

No. 2499585

>>2499581
Where did you hear that?

No. 2499601

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The reaction to Wunmi(right) playing a love interest for Michael B Jordan's character(left) is a really good example of how society polices anything that strays away from the psyop. There are people arguing she is too old to play his lover even though they are the same age. The bar for women to exist on screen is insanely high

No. 2499605

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>>2496700
Old reply but nara Smith is another good example of the psyop because there are people(mainly women too kek) who argue she isn't blue's looksmatch. And I can't figure out why even if she was that would be a problem. Women are the only people who pressure other women out of dating hot men. I have never seen men try to bully an ugly man out of dating a hot woman. Scrotes don't even deserve to be looksmatched they should date uglier women as reparations for the patriachy.

No. 2499609

>>2499605
Lots of women are pickmes that simply see other women as competition for the most mediocre moids, sad but true. I know she's biracial but white tumblr girls who were former fans of lucky are probably pressed and jealous cause she bagged a white man they deem attractive and think she doesn't deserve it because they think she's beneath them. Lucky isn't even all that he looks weird and his teeth are all jacked up.

No. 2499622

>>2499585
It was posted here a few threads ago

No. 2499680

>>2498489
Ugly faggot phenotype

No. 2499681

>>2498489
Andrew Tate either looks like a worm or a TIF in all his pictures lel

No. 2499719

>>2499605
That’s literally just because she’s black. White women love to virtue signal about how beautiful they think non white women are, until they end up with a white scrote, then they chimp the fuck out. I say this as a white woman. I do think they’re looksmatched but lucky looks slightly uncanny to me and I don’t know why.

No. 2499721

>>2499622
That’s amazing news. I think hating women weakens a man’s heart. Kevin Samuels also had a heart attack young. It’s the goddesses way of disposing of them.

No. 2499722

>>2499605
He looks better than usual in this picture and his mouth still looks weird/annoying.

No. 2499725

>>2499722
I think he’s had his lips done? Idk but he always looks weird to me as well yet I can never put my finger on why.

No. 2499726

>>2499413
Whoville phenotype features on a foot face? Dull dry skin with huge moles? Autism eyes? All on the same creature?? I'm not surprised he had a heart attack, whatever god is up there clearly despises him.

No. 2499740

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>>2498366
>>2498488
>his real name isn't even Myron Gaines, he just changed it to a white sounding name
Hahaha, why out of all the white sounding names would you ever choose Myron??? Literally the most nerdy sounding name in the world KEK. Really makes you come across like chad Amrou, good job lad!

No. 2499743

>>2499740
It's genuinely such a TIF tier name kek, that's what I'd expect a Tumblrina to call herself after going through muh darque academia phase

No. 2499771

>>2499572
That's a weird reaction to someone politely suggesting you not get yourself redtexted with multiple consecutive posts of all-caps typing but okay

>>2499605
If your intention with this picrel was to show that Lucky Blue Smith is attractive you probably should have picked another photo, he looks horrible here. Tbh I think most people find this couple weird because he is a trad mormon weirdo and her background seems to be more normal, personally I haven't seen people complaining about him being too hot for her (he's way uglier than her anyway) but the people who are are probably just jealous parasocial weirdos anyway. No one looks at that couple and actually thinks he's the more attractive one.

No. 2499777

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>>2496694
This is worse

No. 2499780

>>2499777
There's also the instance of white women dating black scrotes that are so ugly, they give the anglerfish a run for its money. As a woman that isn't white, I don't understand why they do this.

No. 2499783

>>2499777
he looks disabled

No. 2499832

>>2499777
>>2499780
Heidi Klum case, only date moids so abysmally ugly (and of another race) that you look even more gorgeous in comparison. That girl in the video is clearly leaning away from him, I'd be so disgusted to have something like that crawl up on me from behind…

No. 2499864

>>2499060
Yeah I know, but I'm sure the pick mes over on reddit and the men defending this unironically still think men age better than women so they wouldn't know that.
>>2499777
Jesus christ

No. 2499935

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Women are more inclined to dogpile other women who date attractive men than the opposite direction. They are the worst perpetrators of the psyop. So many gross geriatric moids openly date women barely out of high school, and these faux pearl clutching reddit pickmes don't bat an eyelid. But this snark cant stop seething over horseface stacy getting the bag, they make a post hating these two every other day.

No. 2499938

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No. 2499958

>>2499777
Is she mentally retarded or something? Serious question. What the fuck is wrong with her that she has to settle for THAT?

No. 2500047

>>2499719
Bad makeup and top lip filler

No. 2500059

>>2500047
Are you talking about lucky or Nara?

No. 2500068


No. 2500070

>>2500068
Oh right kek. She’s got quite a prominent top lip but I think it’s natural? It’s hard to tell. The phaggot was jealous probably and got surgery so they’d look like hers.

No. 2500131

>>2499601
Michael B Jordan looks like sentient dough, I don't know how women find him attractive

No. 2500195

>>2499605
She insanely mogs him. He looks so busted now. My god if even a stunning model isn’t good enough to “deserve” a busted haggot like that, what do the rest of us “deserve”

No. 2500204

>>2500070
You can see in her old photos that she got lip filler now

No. 2500237

>>2499777
He kidnapped her and forced her to make this video. His accomplice was on the other side recording and holding a gun to her head.

No. 2500257

>>2499601
Too old even if they are the same age is wild. Also, she's really pretty. Male actors get to date women 10+ years younger than them, but women ever get this treatment for their male counterparts. I am also sick of this double standard.

No. 2500263

>>2499935
I dont even care about ATJ, but the hate his wife Sam gets is insane. Moids marry and have autism babies with women 20+ years their junior, but because Sam married Aaron, the seething these pick mes do is insane.

No. 2500292

>>2499935
i'll never forget those subset of fans constantly trying to meme him into dating his step-daughter

No. 2500464

>>2499601
I've found her attractive since I first saw her in Lovecraft country she was the best character in that shitshow and was done dirty. I hate it and was so happy to see her as the love interest in Sinners!
>>2499609
Right, a conventionally attractive white moid dating any woman who isn't completely white is a personal afront to their racial superiority complexes. They're the other half to white racist moids who froth over "Tyrone" and "Jose."

No. 2500937

>>2499601
People also constantly shit on Lori Harvey for breaking up with him (because he's oh so perfect, how could she fumble this?!). This moid is pushing 40, of course he's ready to settle down now, so why is he dating a girl a decade his junior? When he was her age, he was also still hoeing around, so why do people not understand why she doesn't want to play happy family yet? Even if a moid celebrity only gets praise, has no other controversies/scandals, simply dating a girl that much younger than him shows that he's not a good person.

No. 2500968

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>>2499719
I've seen this happen with fictional characters too. For the past 2 years the You fandom has argued picrel is too ugly to play a love interest. A lot of the psyop comes from women seeing other women as competition and placing hierarchies on them based on weight, age, race etc. Even the ugliest Hollywood actress is still prettier than the average scrote "sex symbol". There are a thousands Barry koeghans, Jack blacks and Pedro pascal's in Hollywood while even the Amy Schumers still have to be waxxed and wear layers of make up. It is ridiculous. And I do not think we will ever get to a point where women stop forcing each other to date lower

No. 2501021

>>2500968
It's interesting and depressing how both men and women tear each other down when it comes to the dating game, and how it always leads back to the psyop. Men give young attractive males purposefully terrible 'advice' to restore their internal and external social hierarchies. Younger men are supposed to beneath older ones, so their physical advantages threaten the supposed natural order between males and need to be neutralized. Second, since males see catering to, or even just acknowledging, someone's preferences as submissive, by bringing cute guys back in line they're making men as a whole assert dominance over women.
Meanwhile women also bully women whom they consider to be out of line, but the way the whole thing works is kind of the opposite way around than men. Instead of trying to bring down handsome (or just mid or ugly) guys to the lowest common denominator, women basically deify them. They consider them too perfect for any woman, and ignore all their flaws while nitpicking the woman down to the tiniest detail. Women's drive for perfection and purity manifests itself in idealization and hypercriticism. When someone flawed (female) exists next to their Adonis, she becomes a conduit for psyopped women's self-hatred.
An uppity man is one who happens to be beautiful, because he reveals how ugly other men are. An uppity woman is one who dares to be with a coveted guy, because she reveals how timid other women are.

No. 2501026

>>2501021
I want to believe you anon but the only examples I can think of are that nara smith psy-op certain anons keep pushing with her gay-face closetfag husband, haley bieber (superfan) and justin bieber (literal world famous ~teen heartthrob~) and jennifer anistan and brad pitt, way back in the 00s

No. 2501033

>>2500968
kek i started watching the current season and please tell me that this stupid tiktok is not about their looks, but about the fact how shitty the writing has become. well, at least season 5 is better than season 4 (so far, despite being predcitable) but i cannot stand hearing all of this tiktok mumbo-jumbo. im shocked how joe didnt kill the ginger one right away, and i can tell they gave his current main LL the same makeup/hairstyle as Love because people still cannot get over how amazing Love was in her last season. should have finished on s3 tbf

No. 2501088

>>2501026
nta but this happens in pretty much any fan communities for any male celeb, like ATJ and his wife (and as i mentioned earlier it got to a point where his fans kept saying they wanted him to date his own daughter instead). timothy chalamama fans (especially when he got with kylie even though he's always been into women like her), rpatz fans in the past when he dated fka twigs, etc. sometimes i even see this behavior on lc, like bladee fangirls calling his gf a "mid hag" in /g/, and the containment thread that shant be named with how they talked about his exes

No. 2501133

>>2501088
Which is funny because bladee is a total mid hag himself. He’s gone bogwitch mode

No. 2501140

>>2501088
So many male celebrities are dating or married to women young enough to be their daughters, who usually had some kind of modeling career tho. Maybe there's seething from super fans but it could also be that sometimes "pretty boys" tend to go for dominant women with more "masculine" traits

No. 2501305

>>2493718
>"Y-you're not even ideal! No one wants to fuck you! No one desires you!"
>"Go back to your Chad harem."

¿¿¿???

No. 2501309

>>2493717
>>2493718
This is the one thing that separates misandists and misogynists.

Misandrists hate men so they create 4B, polilez, and radfemery.

Misogynists hate women… and they want those same women to be stuck with them despite supposedly hating them?

No. 2501331

>>2501309
And then when they get a gf they use her to impress other men with. Men are simply not intelligent creatures.

No. 2501405

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I just can’t get into the romance of this when the actor is very obviously 52 (13 years older than the actress) and looks like he’s melting in every scene

No. 2501416

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>>2501405
samefag, apple tv also greenlighted a new romcom
>about 2 former child prodigies in their “early 30s”
>lead actress is 29
>lead actor is 38(turning 39 this year) and also the writer
Of course. And his face looks like a grimy block

No. 2501429

>>2501416
It's so ugly, I hate this for her.
>the romcom you've been waiting for
Not like this.

No. 2501430

>>2501405
Ew, this is so grotesque. I never thought Emily Blunt was all that pretty by actress standards but this moid is so hideous they should do him a favor and never put him on screen next to a pretty woman at all. He's not just ugly but ugly in a bizarre, inhuman looking way, like Walter Goggins.

>>2501416
To be fair he looks similar to a lot of early-30s and even late-20s moids these days, but he is way too ugly to star in a romcom even if he doesn't look that old.

No. 2501441

>>2501430
That's not Emily Blunt but I concede it absolutely does look like her in the photo

No. 2501442

>>2501405
I get distracted by his drawstring butthole mouth, it’s too small for his face.

No. 2501443

>>2501441
What really? She looks so similar in the thumbnail, my bad. Anyway this woman (who looks kind of like Emily Blunt) is not a great beauty but that man does not look human next to her.

>>2501442
Drawstring butthole mouth, weird insane looking googly eyes, neanderthal brow, protruding butt chin, and dick nose with a weirdly lumpy face. Just a great beauty all round.

No. 2501466

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>>2501416
That girl made me lose the last hope of there being just one young non-psyoped female celebrity in Hollywood. She's pretty much the only one who looks and dresses like a normal young woman and then she ends up dating a z-list chinese actor who's 15 years older than her… Some retards even claim this is an improvement because he's not a trash rapper like many bfs of black stars, plus "asian don't raisin!"…

No. 2501495

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Can someone explain to me why straight moids would rather become ''femboys/trannies'' than improve themselves and become pretty boys for women? i dont get it. Are all men bisluts? Literally the ONLY men making thrist traps for women are gay men. How come gay men are better at understanding what women like than supposedly straight moids??

No. 2501501

>>2501495
The ones who become femboys or troons that sleep with men are gay and want men to like them, not women. Seems pretty obvious.

>How come gay men are better at understanding what women like than supposedly straight moids??

I don't think they are, do you have any examples? Gay moids are usually repulsive to women.

No. 2501527

>>2501501
>The ones who become femboys or troons that sleep with men are gay and want men to like them, not women. Seems pretty obvious.
Oh nonny, i wish i could be as innocent as you are. Most troons nowadays are AGP, not HSTS. A few years ago anons were mourning the loss of a cutesy british nerdy youtuber with a primarily woman fanbase who became a ''transbian''
>I don't think they are, do you have any examples?
cosplayers like tangtangmonster and shunsukecos come to mind. I dont know why moids dont do cosplay for women more often, those photoshopped alien faggots are swimming in fujo and yume cash. I used to follow a few cosplay accounts female artists used to always tag as references for their slutty husbando drawings and they were also all gay. Meanwhile straight female cosplayers who post thrist traps for moids are dime a dozen.

No. 2501535

>>2501527
I'm not innocent, and I didn't say most troons are HSTS. You said 'femboys/trannies' and asked if all men are bisluts so I assumed you meant femboys (who are mostly gay) and the gay type of troon. If you meant AGPs, your question answers itself. AGPs troon out because they have autogynephilia, i.e., they aren't really into women sexually, they're into themselves. That is why they would rather troon out than be pretty for women, because they're not really interested in women, it's self explanatory. Anons mourning the loss of that charlie troon are retarded, nothing of value was lost. Any moid who troons out was by definition the worst type of misogynist possible to begin with, and this is why we need to stop psyopping women into believing 'nerds' are cute or good in some way.

>cosplayers like tangtangmonster and shunsukecos come to mind.

I've never heard of those people in my life but I just looked one of them up and these don't look like thirst traps for women to me. Lots of presenting of the ass, this is clearly thirst traps for gay moids. The other one is making what looks like AI filter slop to me which I've only ever known moids to be into. Fujos are specifically into gay men and like to self-insert as gay men but they are a tiny minority of women and typically not the type of women straight men are trying to attract, so again I think this is pretty self-explanatory? Straight men, if they try to be attractive to women at all, usually try to appeal to normal straight women, while gay men try to appeal to gay men (and might incidentally pick up some fujo fans on the way since fujoshis are by definition obsessed with gay moids specifically).

No. 2501537

>>2501416
ayo is on the come up why is she paired with some ugly old nobody? jesus christ. is she doing this to herself or is someone fucking with her?

No. 2501540

>>2501535
> these don't look like thirst traps for women to me
they literally only cosplay stuff thats popular with women like nukani, lads, that game about the monster guys. Men arent into that, its thrist trap for women. Also women like ass too kek.

No. 2501542

>>2501540
I don't know what any of this shit is but I also don't know any women who are into it so you seem to be talking about some extremely niche thing. Lots of straight men make thirst traps for women that are much more popular/generally known than these moids catering to niche communities. And whether men are into those games or not, the thirst traps themselves look like gay thirst traps, they don't look like thirst traps meant for women, and most women not familiar with the specific media context (like myself) coming upon photos like these would automatically assume this is softcore porn for gay moids. It certainly is not reflective of the typical female gaze/preferences and is extremely reflective of the typical gay preferences in terms of how it is shot, shooped, posed, etc.

I don't know any women who are into pegging moids, but I'm sure there are a handful out there.

No. 2501543

>>2501542
> but I also don't know any women who are into it
we literally have generals of all those games here KEK

No. 2501547

>>2501543
Okay, am I supposed to read every lolcow thread that has ever been made? Lolcow has a few thousand active members at most, an imgboard like this isn't reflective of the general female population. Anyway out of sheer consternation and confusion about what you were saying, I showed tangtangmonster's twitter feed to the nearest male and asked him "who is this content directed at do you think?" and he said "men… obviously…"

No. 2501550

>>2501547
LADS literally makes more money than genshit. You dont know about what you are talking about. The world doesnt revolve around you anon.
>twitter feed to the nearest male and asked him "who is this content directed at do you think?" and he said "men… obviously…"
why would the opinion of a scrote matter? men think EVERYTHING is gay. He has photos of meetups he does with fans and they are all female.

No. 2501561

>>2501550
The Last of Us and Severance also make tons of money and the actors have tons of female fans but no one itt would deny that those men aren't generally attractive to women and that what is being shilled is a male ideal promoted by and for men. An entertainment property making some money from women and/or accruing female fans doesn't automatically make it the single universal female standard but more importantly, gay moids cosplaying as popular characters themselves are not necessarily as famous as the characters/games themselves, and gay males will make porn from the male gaze perspective and which would usually appeal to the male gaze even if some women end up liking it. The costumes, poses, cutesy filters etc. all resemble the costumes and poses and filters of women in porn directed at men, which is how you can clearly tell this shit is devised "for the male gaze."

>men think EVERYTHING is gay.

If that's true then it just further proves my point that these gay men think what they're doing is gay even if they end up with female fans. The person I asked does not actually think everything is gay and is aware of media directed at women, but, his words, "these pictures look like the posters they put up in the windows of nightclubs in the gay village." I'm a woman and my first reaction was also "this is gay."

I'm not trying to shame you or other women for being into niche gay moid content, I'm just disagreeing that the only men making thirst traps for women are gay men. Eboys are a good example, most are demonstrably straight. I also would argue that gay men are not better at understanding what women like, just because a handful of gay men get female fans when they cosplay as characters from games for women. Are the games also made by gay men would be my question? Was their actual intent to appeal to gay moids? Are the women who this appeals to a reasonable cross-section of most women or just a small subset of fujos and gamers?

No. 2501563

>>2501561
LADS, nukani and the otome monster game are made for women why are you comparing them to slop made for moids? seriously if you dont like anime or weeby stuff thats fine but stop pretending you know what you are talking about just to have the last word.

No. 2501564

>>2501563
I didn't say they are games made for men, I asked if gay men made the games.

No. 2501565

>>2501564
Absolutely no moid is playing any of those games, they are made for women. Thats why you shouldnt talk about things you know nothing about.

No. 2501566

>>2501565
That wasn't my question, my question is are the games made BY gay moids? You need to slow down and read the posts you're responding to before responding. Your contention was that gay males MAKE the best 'female gaze' content so I asked if the games you mention were made by gay males. A moid cosplaying in a porny fashion is not the game maker from what I understand, it is a cosplayer moid.

No. 2501569

>>2501566
>my question is are the games made BY gay moids?
No, LADS was done by a studio that panders to women and also did infinity nikki, the otome game is a an indie game done by a single female dev, and nukani also has a mostly female dev team.
>Your contention was that gay males MAKE the best 'female gaze' content so I asked if the games you mention were made by gay males
I was obviously talking about cosplayers. I have no idea how you misinterpreted my post about cosplays to be about anything else? like clearly you dont know what i am talking about considering you dont know any of the 3 biggest games targetted at women, so why do you keep trying to have the last word?

No. 2501574

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>>2501569
I didn't misinterpret the post. I looked at the photos of the gay cosplayers and said that their cosplay content looks male gazey, i.e., directed toward gay men. You then repeatedly brought up that the otome games are made for women, which I didn't deny, but a game being directed at a female audience doesn't mean every person that cosplays as one of the characters is making his content with the female gaze in mind. Many gay men like content directed at women, like BL shows and comics, even though BL is mostly by and for women. You said, I quote,
>How come gay men are better at understanding what women like than supposedly straight moids??
And my point was that gay men don't understand or care what women like just because women occasionally like gay content. I'm not the one obsessed with having the last word either, it's you who keeps bringing it up while I try to politely respond to your posts and explain myself. This is a discussion forum, where it's customary to have discussions.

Anyway let's just agree to disagree in that case, I clearly am not convincing you and you probably won't be able to convince me that the moid in picrel took these photos with the female gaze in mind.

No. 2501575

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>>2501574
>doesn't mean every person that cosplays as one of the characters is making his content with the female gaze in mind
KEK yes ofcourse a guy is going to cosplay a LADS guy, a game whose playerbase is 99% women for the ''male gaze''. Like how does that even work? if he wanted to make gayshit he would cosplay as astolfo or some ugly femboy moids want to fuck, but instead he's wasting money making cosplay porn of a franchise whose playerbase is 99% women? make it make sense.
>you probably won't be able to convince me that the moid in picrel took these photos with the female gaze in mind.
what is the female gaze to you? because to me the male gaze only applies to female characters. I dont understand why men are allowed to like ass and women in slutty clothes but women cant. Do tell me whats the female gaze if its not slutty men posing like whores just like the male gaze is slutty women posing like whores. Why are only men allowed to enjoy dehumanizing sexualized depictions of women?

No. 2501579

>men at Disney animation studios get assmad over Flynn Rider's "hot man" meeting
>Flynn's man made beta design is used for Kristoff
>there has never been a main romance in a Disney movie since Frozen
KEK NO WAY! Did men get so upset about women having preferences that they tanked the famous fairytale romance? This is why Star Boy wasn't in Wish, right? And the media has the nerve to blame this on feminists.

No. 2501582

>>2501575
> Why are only men allowed to enjoy dehumanizing sexualized depictions of women?

Agree with you nonna. I've always had a problem with the term female gaze because it seems like there's not an actual definition (opposed to male gaze). Seems that many people assume female gaze (or whatever women want to see) is the opposite of what men want. Aka, we focus on their feelings and would date an ugly man as long as he does some sweet stuff. Which, I guess it's true for some women, but I'm one of those women who want to see moids with nice asses kek. I'm not even gonna call it female gaze. But I hate how the other nonna seems to think only gay men can enjoy male asses, or men looking certain way.

No. 2501585

>>2501582
Its so hard being a woman into ass and legs because anything thats more revealing than a shirtless guy gets labelled as gay. The idea of a moid being into LADS and homicipher thrist traps is fucking hilarious though kek.

No. 2501592

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>>2501575
I'm really not trying to be difficult but frankly I am just confused by what you are trying to say. At first you said
>Can someone explain to me why straight moids would rather become ''femboys/trannies'' than improve themselves and become pretty boys for women?
But when I look at picrel I struggle to understand the difference between picrel and a 'femboy.' You seem to be implying that 'femboys' are male gazey but whatever this is is 'understanding what women like' and to me they are the same picture.

>Like how does that even work?

I explained how I think it works, there are gay males who like content (otomes, BL, yaoi) directed at women. When I see a gay male making softcore porn I assume he hoped for a male audience initially even if he ends up making money off a female audience too. I don't think gay moids are usually thinking about what women want when they make spicy content. Also, just because some women find a certain man attractive (I gave the examples of the moids from Severance and The Last of Us) I don't think that means it's a reflection of what most women like, in general.
>inb4 "but I said the games are popular with women!"
Yes and as we established we're not talking about game characters here but about the actual flesh and blood moid doing these cosplays.

>what is the female gaze to you?

I already explained this in the post you just responded to. When a man makes sexual content with the hope that other men find it attractive, I think it's directed at the male gaze. So the female gaze would be the opposite, something that was done with the thought or intention of appealing to women. I think typically 'female gaze' media is usually made BY women, because as you implied originally, men are bad at understanding what women typically like. The personal definition I'm using here is 'when I see a moid doing something and I feel like his intention was to direct it at another moid, that's not female gazey, it's male gazey.'

>I dont understand why men are allowed to like ass and women in slutty clothes but women cant.

I already said women can, but I don't think it is the norm of what most women like. I think most women like male butts, but not photos where a man is spreading his ass cheeks, because most women don't like pegging moids. I think most women aren't attracted to men in female lingerie like picrel, even if some subset of women is. I think some lesbian women also like women in slutty clothes, but I wouldn't call mainstream het porn 'female gazey' just because it features women in slutty clothing and pornified poses that some lesbians like.

>to me the male gaze only applies to female characters.

I disagree with that because it's implying that gay men don't exist. It's been mentioned many times on this thread that one of the reasons women have a hard time finding content with men they're attracted to is that so much content is made for gay moids, which many women don't find appealing. The corollary of this is that all depictions of female characters are inherently 'male gazey' even if the depiction is made by gay women to appeal to gay women, but I think most lesbians would not agree with you.

>Do tell me whats the female gaze if its not slutty men posing like whores

I think there have been examples posted in this thread before, and many discussions of this exact question, but in general I think most women would agree that we prefer depictions of men that aren't just genderbent mirrors of the way women are depicted in porn. I think most women like depictions of pretty, fit men who still look somewhat 'masculine' (i.e., not pigeontoed in thigh high socks and lingerie). There is always going to be a spread of what different women like but the norm is somewhere in between what men think women like (roidpigs lifting weights ugga ugga) and what gay moids often like (femboys or in this case, totally-not-femboys in women's lingerie). People have said in these threads, Leon, young Leo Dicaprio in Titanic, River Phoenix/Brendan Lee, etc. It's usually sort of a pretty and young man but with some masculine or boyish behavioral qualities. I think many women like half naked men but not usually in heels, lingerie, wigs, etc.

No. 2501594

>>2499935
literally every rockstar and director who doesnt stay with his first wife goes on to marry a woman 20+ years younger, who the fuck cares

No. 2501598

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>>2501591
You are purposefully cherrypicking some of the more sexual OC images instead of picking the ones that are cosplays of stablished male characters from games for women. Its funny because most of his content is cosplay and you are going out of your way to pick the ones that are more risque and original. I also have no idea why you are having such a hard time grasping the idea of cosplay done for women? like how is a woman mean to do female gaze cosplay for other women? wtf how would that even work. We were talking about cosplay and now you are talking about something else entirely.

No. 2501603

File: 1745723154621.png (369.51 KB, 458x585, womandirectedcontent.png)

>>2501598
The first screenshot was one of the first images that comes up on his twitter, and as I kept scrolling I saw many 'femboy' images which is why I thought his content was largely directed at gay males. Images like picrel are less femboyish but also make me think his content is directed at gay males. I just found it confusing that you asked why moids dress up at femboys and juxtaposed it with gay males who 'understand what women want' who also… dress up as femboys frequently. I'm not saying every single image of his is femboyish, but I assume from the large amount of content that looks like it's directed at males that he does this at least in large part to appeal to other gay moids, not women. I'm guessing he also makes money off women and panders to his female fans too but I doubt it was his original intent.

You also completely ignored the point I've made repeatedly that tons of straight males make thirst trap content directed at women and are even more popular than these niche cosplayer moids. Even if some gay moids make thirst traps that appeal to women, it's not like ONLY gay moids do. By the way, the first 30 or so insta comments I scrolled through on these pics were made by men.

>why you are having such a hard time grasping the idea of cosplay done for women?

I have a hard time grasping the idea of gay moids purposefully making risque content with women in mind because I know what men are like. "We" weren't talking about cosplay, your initial post just asked why gay men (you didn't mention cosplay at all) are the ONLY men making thirst traps for women and how come gay men are better at understanding what women want. When I asked for examples you said 'cosplayers like (this moid) come to mind' but you never specified that you mean exclusively male cosplayers.

No. 2501605

>>2501574
presenting ass like this is for the gay gaze

No. 2501606

>>2501592
this isn't a femboy or a trap because it's an adult trap or "ambush" sometimes called a male venus, and it's a porn category for men. men in women's lingerie is for men even if tifs and fujos like them.

No. 2501608

>>2501605
think it depends on taste, im into it.

No. 2501610

File: 1745724139100.png (934.87 KB, 697x844, notafemboyyy.png)

>>2501605
Yes nonna I think so too but apparently I'm wrong and what is the female gaze but liking men in gay porn poses? I think you can look at pics like this and confidently say 'this is a gay thing' even if you enjoy looking at it and also like male butts as a woman. I like male butts as a woman and I like male legs too but this kind of content isn't for me. I also don't think it's fair to say these pictures are cherrypicked when easily half of his photos are very 'feminized' i.e. picrel

>>2501606
AYRT and glad I'm not crazy then.

No. 2501613

mfw I can't concentrate on the arguments because my brain keeps seeing the pictures and short circuiting

No. 2501614

>>2501608
Imo the 'male gaze/female gaze' distinction is less about personal taste and more about the intended/imagined audience and/or the person making/directing the content if it's something like a movie or anime. Some men will always like 'female gazey' content of women or other men, while some women will always like 'male gazey; content of men or other women, but it's more about the intended observer when we say something is made for the female/male gaze.

No. 2501616

I envy chinese women more and more everyday

No. 2501617

>>2501610
i think a lot of the younger gen is so steeped in a pornsick media landscape they are like fish who can't comprehend the water they're swimming in. their taste is formed by it and they acclimate to gay taste just because that's all that's being produced, then they either tif out or once they actually have sex try pegging and quickly find out it's not anything at all like yaoi.

No. 2501619

>>2501616
Isn't it literally illegal to depict feminine/openly gay men in Chinese media? Nothing's stopping you from following his insta this side of the great firewall.

No. 2501620

>>2501610
the little boy shota stuff he's doing is def for men. he's trying to do both femboy and ambush with heavy editing. imo if you start getting into this stuff as a woman you are pornsick and going down a dark path.

No. 2501621

>>2501619
Nta but he's from Taiwan so it's all legal there

No. 2501633

>>2501620
>>2501617
Yeah I didn't want to go down that road because this is the ugly man psyop thread not the porn thread but I agree that being steeped in this is likely to mess women up (just like pornsickness messes moids up, although moids are always going to be worse because it makes them violent and rapey). >>2501617
you're probably right that younger gen Z women don't get that this is obvious gay porn tropes because they're so used to it, I didn't even think about that because I'm older and didn't grow up with insta/tiktok so I only saw content like this in clearly delineated gay male media. I just am not sure what anyone would get out of pegging (as the pegger, anyway) because it seems so gross but maybe that makes me a conservative prude.

No. 2501638

>>2501610
what are women who like sexy guys supposed to like then? give me examples of whats female gaze if sexy men in sexy clothes isnt.

No. 2501639

>>2501633
why are you obsessed with pegging, who the fuck brought up pegging?

No. 2501643

>>2501639
What do you think 'presenting ass' indicates? Multiple anons brought up pegging for a reason.

>>2501638
Not femboys/gay men in womens lingerie/fetish costumes? I'm not even commenting on what women are 'supposed to' like, I'm telling you that most straight women don't like gay men/femboys/crossdressers.

No. 2501645

>>2501643
>Not femboys/gay men in womens lingerie/fetish costumes? I'm not even commenting on what women are 'supposed to' like, I'm telling you that most straight women don't like gay men/femboys/crossdressers.
Then what are we supposed to like? you havent given a single example. What is female gazey then.

No. 2501646

>>2501643
>What do you think 'presenting ass' indicates?
i just like ass that doesnt mean i want to peg them, what the hell. Do all women who like ass now want to peg moids?

No. 2501647

File: 1745728602005.png (464.17 KB, 514x653, femalegazey.png)

>>2501646
I asked about 'presenting ass' anon not 'a man having a butt.' What is spreading the butt cheeks to imply making the rectum accessible meant to indicate, to make it clearer? Next you're going to tell me that puppy play with the leather gimp masks and another man keeping the 'pup' on a leash, furries/furry fanart, and sexy maid costumes on men are all 'female gazey' too since all three feature prominently on his insta.

>>2501645
Like I said, I'm not commenting on what women are 'supposed to' like. Also examples were given in >>2501592 and in all the 24 UMP threads. I think you're taking this way too personally, no one is telling you that you must like what the average woman likes, just that the average woman doesn't like gay moids.

No. 2501648

>>2501647
>Like I said, I'm not commenting on what women are 'supposed to' like
You are literally doing that by implying its not femgazey. So tell me, whats femgazey? also its weird to suddenly rule yourself by what a normal woman likes, because we all agree normal women have shit taste and are psyopped by moids to have lower, if not null, beauty standards for men. So which is it, normal women are psyopped or do they hold the truth and the only truth to whats femgazey? if so, then you think 50 shades of grey is the only ''real'' femgaze?

No. 2501652

>>2501648
No, I already explained what I meant by female gazey above. Read the posts you're responding to. I don't think I should have to repeat myself a third/fourth time.

>because we all agree normal women have shit taste

Not naturally. Naturally most women have taste that converges somewhere around 'healthy, young, fit moids who seem to be heterosexual, not pornsick, and vivacious' on average. That's why the Ugly Male Psyop is necessary, because women don't naturally like ugly men, so men have to impose their taste on women in order to stop women from having the naturally good, evolutionarily advantageous for their offspring taste that women naturally have. You pointing to a different type of male porn psyop (the gay version instead of the straight version, used to psyop men into wanting to fuck other men and become degenerates by dressing young hairless men up as women, shooping their faces/bodies to look more feminine, posing them in stereotypical female porn actress poses, putting them in wigs etc.) and saying 'this is the only alternative to the (straight) UMP' is just implying you have been successfully psyopped yourself and can't perceive natural markers of health and attractiveness in males without heavy shooping and pornification.

You seem to be saying that het women wouldn't naturally prefer het men to gay moids, and that het women's standards for moids should come from porn tropes for men. This moid is not even naturally attractive, he's just shooped and filtered to hell and back (yes he has a good body, but many non-gay moids can also have good bodies). Looking at a man so pornsick that almost every single image he posts of himself is some sort of moid porn trope would naturally be offputting to most women due to the pornsickness alone, since a healthy mentality is also part of what we unconsciously look for in a potential mate and is part of attractiveness.

Women who are attracted to women usually aren't attracted to male porn tropes, precisely because homosexual women are less psyopped than straight men. Heterosexual women are usually less psyopped than gay men, and don't take joy in 'ruining' their sex partners with plastic surgery, filters, degrading poses, plastic halloween costumes, etc. Again, like I said, there ARE exceptions but you only have to go out and observe the world around you and ask normie women who aren't psyopped some basic questions to find that most women find gay male sexuality offputting (so offputting, in fact, that most of them don't even want to date bi men). I'm not making prescriptive statements, I'm making descriptive statements here.

50 shades of grey is a book, there are no images of men in it.

No. 2501654

>>2501652
>No, I already explained what I meant by female gazey above.
you just gave examples of moid actors, not an equivalent of a ''femgazey'' sexy male pinup. So, is the only way for moids to be femgazey to be humanized and put in the role of a hero or protagonist in a movie? is just enjoying the male form in its raw form not female gazey? thats what i dont get. You havent given a sigle example of how a sexy male pinup would work and still be femgazey to you. You keep moving the goalpost and making it about moid actors when we were originally talking about cosplayers who make thrist traps for women. Like whats the female equivalent of thots posting with their ass out in shein lingerie then?
>you have been successfully psyopped yourself and can't perceive natural markers of health and attractiveness in males without heavy shooping and pornification.
KEK so now liking moids cosplaying as my husbandos in sexy clothes is being psyopped? dont you realize you are doing the exact same thing moids do and gatekeeping female sexuality. You obviously dont have a problem with gay men being sexy for other men, or women being sexy for men. You only have a problem with its men doing it for women. And i wonder why? why does female sexuality has to be so gatekeept? i dont get it. Men rape and murder women and infants and their gfs then go and buy the most revealing and humilliating lingerie for them. What do we get? no thing, we are the ones to be sexualized, thats our ''duty'' as women.
>50 shades of grey is a book, there are no images of men in it.
KEK anon do you live in a cave? it got like 3 whole movies. You havent answered, is it femgazey then since it was done by a woman and consumed by women?

No. 2501660

>>2501652
>You seem to be saying that het women wouldn't naturally prefer het men to gay moids
also i never said this and i have no fucking idea where you got this from?

No. 2501663

>>2501654
Nta but your reading comprehension is genuinely terrible.

No. 2501665

>>2501610
Idk if these are multiple different guys or just one, but either way his face is ugly. He’s good at hiding it and distracting the viewer by showing off his body and shooping his face (or maybe it’s plastic surgery), but he’ll never fully be rid of his horse face.

No. 2501666

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Jesus christ sorry for tripleposting, my mouse keeps freezing and making me hit reply/copypaste when I don't mean to.
>>2501654
>you just gave examples of moid actors
False, I told you my DEFINITION of female gazey repeatedly, but since you have such difficulty backreading let me copy paste that for you again.
>When a man makes sexual content with the hope that other men find it attractive, I think it's directed at the male gaze. So the female gaze would be the opposite, something that was done with the thought or intention of appealing to women.
>Imo the 'male gaze/female gaze' distinction is less about personal taste and more about the intended/imagined audience and/or the person making/directing the content
When I say that a gay crossdresser in a maid costume/female lingerie and bunny ears/pup leash and leather pup mask hiding his face is not female gazey, I mean the content is not produced for women. This is pretty strongly indicated by most of the commenters/followers on his insta being men.

If you absolutely insist I MUST provide examples of what type of men the average women like, picrel I guess. Like I said I was not and am not really interested in searching the internet for the exact average of typical straight female taste, women in this thread have provided hundreds of examples and reading which ones most nonnas agreed were good looking should give you a pretty good idea. Typically women care about the face of a moid, so your cosplayer automatically would not qualify.

>we were originally talking about cosplayers who make thrist traps for women.

We weren't originally talking about that, as I already pointed out. Go reread the OP, >>2501495, and find me where 'cosplayers' were mentioned in it? I already gave an example of straight male thirst-traps, i.e., e-boys. You are the one moving the goalposts, not me. If you had made a post asking which cosplayers are the hottest, I simply wouldn't have responded, since I don't follow or care about cosplayers.

>gatekeeping female sexuality.

This is the Ugly Man Psyop thread, you're not supposed to defend ugly moids here. If you don't want to have a discussion that 'gatekeeps' female sexuality go to one of the many threads on /g/ where female sexuality isn't gatekept. This isn't the thread for that.

>You obviously dont have a problem with gay men being sexy for other men

I find gay male fetishes gross personally, but they can do what they want amongst themselves as long as it's not harming women. Men always do anyway.

>or women being sexy for men.

I do have a problem with women pandering to the male gaze in this way, yes. It is degrading and I see women who do it as class traitors.

>why does female sexuality has to be so gatekeept?

So that women don't harm themselves and humanity with low standards for moids and don't mess up their natural healthy sexual preferences. If you're asking why I think women shouldn't psyop themselves into obsessing over gay moids, I think the answer is pretty obvious - gay moids won't pair up with you or have sex with you.

>is it femgazey then since it was done by a woman and consumed by women?

I guess so. I've never read it nor watched the movies, but presumably yes. I thought we were talking about male looks here, not written erotic media. This is the UGLY male psyop thread, not the 'fictional character's personality I don't like' psyop thread.

No. 2501667

>>2501495
I've been wondering that lately too, but I hate the possible answer kek. It really seems like moids only start caring about their appearance, about being desirable and about the pleasure of their partner once their partner is another moid.

No. 2501668

>>2501665
It's one guy anon, the cosplayer the other anon said was a good example of gay men understanding female taste. The whole series of cosplay pictures are the same moid, tangtangmonster. He filters his face to near-unrecognizability but there are a couple less-filtered pictures on his insta and he is facially ugly.

No. 2501672

File: 1745732211860.mp4 (2.11 MB, 720x1278, god i wish that were me.mp4)

>>2501666
>False, I told you my DEFINITION of female gazey repeatedly, but since you have such difficulty backreading let me copy paste that for you again.
and i explained you a million times those scrotes make cosplay of husbandos from media FOR women? but you dont even know any of the games i listed anyways so its like talking to a brick wall.
>When I say that a gay crossdresser in a maid costume/female lingerie and bunny ears/pup leash and leather pup mask hiding his face is not female gazey, I mean the content is not produced for women
He literally has videos in meetups with women? again you are cherrypicking stuff and completly ignoring all the cosplay he does of husbandos and all the meetup pictures and videos he has with female fans. It honestly feels like you are doing it in bad fait because it doesnt fit your narrative.
>and find me where 'cosplayers' were mentioned in it?
i literally mentioned THRIST TRAPS in my original point. Goddam are you dumb. If you didnt even bothered to google the moids i gave as example and looked and their profiles to realize they are fucking cosplayers then why even respond? you are clearly uninformed. You dont even know the most popular fandoms for women.
>I already gave an example of straight male thirst-traps, i.e., e-boys.
no, you didnt? you gave examples of hollywood moids.
>So that women don't harm themselves and humanity with low standards for moids and don't mess up their natural healthy sexual preferences. If you're asking why I think women shouldn't psyop themselves into obsessing over gay moids, I think the answer is pretty obvious - gay moids won't pair up with you or have sex with you.
again, you are obsessed with gay modis and buttsex, it sounds like projection. I never said anything about gay moids or that women should lust for gay moids(wtf are you smoking?) i just said that only moids do sexy thrist traps photoshoots for women. Ofcourse i want straight men to do the same, the fucking original point of my post is that straight men NEVER FUCKING DO. They could easily get in shape and cosplay as sexy husbandos for women but they dont, only gay men do it.

also your picrel is hot too but if you put him in an humilliating, dehumanizing pose and clothes(like most female models) i bet you would cry about how its gay and male gazey waaaah. That guy would read as gay to any normal psyopped woman, ironically.

No. 2501675

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>>2501672
thirst trap =/= cosplayer.

>no, you didnt?

Yes, I did, e.g. in this post >>2501561 four hours ago.
>I'm just disagreeing that the only men making thirst traps for women are gay men. Eboys are a good example

>you are obsessed with gay modis and buttsex

Says the anon who started this entire thread by making a post about gay moids, asking
>How come gay men are better at understanding what women like than supposedly straight moids??

>if you put him in an humilliating, dehumanizing pose and clothes

Yes, if you made Simon Nessman dress up in female lingerie or maid costumes from Spirit Halloween, shooped his face into an inhuman death mask and had him posing pigeontoed spreading his ass cheeks, I would think that was gross and directed at gay men, you are correct.

As for the rest of this it's all been answered in my prior posts. I think I should stop wasting my time rehashing things I typed four hours ago to someone who isn't bothering to read or comprehend the posts before responding. Someone who started the entire discussion talking about how much gay moids pander to the female gaze, and giving cosplayers who do gay porn as examples, only to then later ask anons why they're 'obsessed with gay moids and buttsex.'

If you want to know why straight moids don't COSPLAY for women, it's because the women most straight moids want to date are not into cosplay. Some moids in weeb communities do attempt to cosplay sexily for women, but they are usually ugly and autistic, as is typical of moids in those communities, so they don't look good as cosplayers. Gay moids are better cosplayers for the same reason they are much likelier to be successful fashion designers. Straight moids in cosplay communities are usually incels. Hope that answers the question you meant to ask, but didn't ask.

For the nonna that asked about PS/filters in >>2501665
, he's clearly had a botched nose job but here's a screengrab from a youtube video without the makeup/wig.

No. 2501677

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>>2501675
>thirst trap =/= cosplayer.
thats literally what cosplayers do, and if you even bothered to check their shitter accs you would have realized they do that.
>Says the anon who started this entire thread by making a post about gay moids
and you have yet to prove me wrong? where are the straight moids dressing up as LADS, nukani and homicipher husbandos? point them out to me. Post one example of a straight man doing what trillions of weeb straight pickmes do for straight men all the time. Go on.
>Yes, if you made Simon Nessman dress up in female lingerie or maid costumes from Spirit Halloween, shooped his face into an inhuman death mask and had him posing pigeontoed spreading his ass cheeks, I would think that was gross and directed at gay men, you are correct.
Well thank you! you are a woman with a humanizing sexuality. And thats very wholesome and good for you but some women like their men slutty and put in their place. A black and white photo of a fully covered guy does nothing to me, but i am happy you can schlick to something so wholesome and that doesnt show a single pixel of sex appeal. I am glad that even in 'thrist traps' men are allowed humanity and comfort i bet they will pick you for that!
>and giving cosplayers who do gay porn as examples
i have told you a million times they do cosplay of husbandos, for women. But that contradicts your narrative so you keep ignoring it, how funny. I guess those posts with 20k likes of him cosplaying as an husbando of the most popular game for women rn means nothing. No, i bet its coincidentally the 1% of gay men who play the game who actually all decided to like this post, no, real women like black and white pictures of fully covered up guys that dont show a single pixel of body.

No. 2501682

>>2501677
do you get paid to shill this guy or something?

No. 2501684

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>>2498489
>>2497957
>average manosphere content creator

No. 2501686

>>2501682
What a childish response lmfao, he's been posted several times in the /g/ ideal man body thread. Anti-sexualization anon could go and post straight moids who post thrist traps for women but she wont because her spergery alone already proves my point. Straight men will never humilliate themselves the way straight women do for men, and why would they? women are so good and benevolent they will defend them against sexualization and will bootlick them and praise them for wearing comfortable clothes instead of clothes meant to enhance their body and actually look sexual. Meanwhile women will keep buying lingerie and cosplaying genshit waifubait for moids. It is a sad existence that of a straight woman, sigh.

No. 2501691

>>2501667
You're exactly right nonna, moids usually only care about their appearance and being desirable when their partner is another moid, which is exactly how you can tell gay fetish content made by gay cosplayers isn't for women, it's for men. 99% of straight men don't go to such lengths to be attractive to women, let alone gay men.

>>2501677
>all cosplays are thirst traps, so all thirst traps are cosplay
>thirst traps like e-boys with millions of young female followers don't count because they don't dress up as characters from my specific three favorite otome/gachashit games
>why don't men try to be attractive to straight women? the 99% of straight women who aren't weebs don't count
>woman with a humanizing sexuality
>schlicks to gay male porn images, self-admittedly
>men can't have a 'pixel' of sex appeal unless they're put in dehumanizing female costumes derived from porn for men
>if you aren't a pornsick coomer you're a pickme!
>implying that both men and women can only be sexy or attractive if they look pornified and perform for the male gaze
>some fujos follow this gay softporn account that is mostly followed by gay men and features two men sexually interacting with each other in fetish scenarios so this is an indication of healthy female sexuality
>'cherrypicking' the 90% of images that are obviously gay porn instead of focusing on the 10% that look more like normal cosplay means you don't get it!
>but also I need my moids spreading their ass cheeks in slutty female costumes to schlick
>dehumanization is what makes something sexual
>20k likes from mostly men is indicative of female gaze

You know what, you do you but this seems more appropriate for a thread about porn preferences than a thread about straight women being psyopped into choosing subpar sexual partners. Psyopping women into liking gay porn instead will not fix the issue, and your specific preference for weeb coom material/humiliation fetish seems a little out of scope here. The most concerning aspect of the UMP is how it leads to bad reproductive and relationship choices by straight women, leads to them entering dangerous relationships with geriatric scrotes, having babies with genetically inferior moids, etc. I feel like arguing about the legitimacy of schlicking to gay porn is kind of tangential to the UMP, the gay moids will not save you from the psyop since they want to fuck the attractive moids themselves. Masturbate to all the gay porn you want nonnie and have your sexual preferences revolve around humiliation and degradation, don't let me stop you. Just keep in mind, most women do not cosplay genshit waifubait for moids, nor should they.

No. 2501702

File: 1745737413133.jpeg (28.22 KB, 650x366, aad587b70b511d0249510d40ff0c12…)

>>2501695
You just made a whole post about needing to schlick to moids degrading themselves and, uh, what did you say before…
>put him in an humilliating, dehumanizing pose and clothes(like most female models)
And when I posted a photo of a man oiled up and almost entirely naked in tiny bikini bottoms, you said
>A black and white photo of a fully covered guy does nothing to me, but i am happy you can schlick to something so wholesome
And then called me a pickme for thinking picrel is more attractive than >>2501574 so, yes, I'd call that pornsick.


Fair enough, I've been here since the first thread started and my description of what it's for is my understanding of the main topic of conversation ITT throughout all 24 threads, but I guess if you want to use the thread specifically to shill gay porn and call non-porn-users Amish, that's fair enough too. I rescind my comment calling your porn preferences out of scope. As an apology, let me redirect: maybe you can explain what you think women gain out of viewing moids in female lingerie, their faces shooped clean off, and in gay porn poses? How does it inoculate us against the psyop? Or are you saying the only aspect of the psyop you don't like is the lack of availability of masturbation materials?

No. 2501703

File: 1745737429071.png (98.49 KB, 640x463, gacha-games-playerbase-gender-…)

>>2501691
>all cosplays are thirst traps, so all thirst traps are cosplay
yes if you bothered to check the accounts for two seconds before making a misinformed reply.
>thirst traps like e-boys with millions of young female followers don't count because they don't dress up as characters from my specific three favorite otome/gachashit games
i literally never said that. my point was about straight men not making thrist traps for women, and you cant even provide a single example of those eboys, so you 100% proved my point, thanks
>why don't men try to be attractive to straight women? the 99% of straight women who aren't weebs don't count
this thread literally talks all the time about how men dont bother to look attractive to women, even if they arent weebs. Funny how you defend moids and claim there isnt a psyop when its convenient to you.
>schlicks to gay male porn images, self-admittedly
if straight moids dont step up i got no other choice i am sorry but i dont have the strength you have to schlick to black and white faces of moids
>men can't have a 'pixel' of sex appeal unless they're put in dehumanizing female costumes derived from porn for men
you havent disproven it and you have no arguments, again proving my point. You have failed to explain to me how a male pinup/thrist trap would look like according to your definition of the ''femalegaze'', you cant even provide an example.
>if you aren't a pornsick coomer you're a pickme!
Liking men showing skin is being pornsick now? are you amish or something anon. Do you like your men to keep their socks during sex?
>implying that both men and women can only be sexy or attractive if they look pornified and perform for the male gaze
well, how would a man look attractive/sexy for the female gaze then? dont tell me the female gaze is fully clothed men KEK
>some fujos follow this gay softporn account that is mostly followed by gay men and features two men sexually interacting with each other in fetish scenarios so this is an indication of healthy female sexuality
fujos are women and yaoi is extremely popular, and the moid mostly does cosplays for female media, so yes
>'cherrypicking' the 90% of images that are obviously gay porn instead of focusing on the 10% that look more like normal cosplay means you don't get it!
again making up bullshit you can scroll on his twitter and it takes a long ass time to reach your cherrypicked images meanwhile most of his recent stuff is LADS or homicipher cosplay, both games made for women by women
>but also I need my moids spreading their ass cheeks in slutty female costumes to schlick
whats wrong with wanting men to look dehumanizing? sorry do they need to be hired by hollywood and have a big budget movie attached to them to be sexy to you, you cannot cum to the male form?
>dehumanization is what makes something sexual
yes, prove me otherwise
>20k likes from mostly men is indicative of female gaze
the playerbase is 90% women
>how it leads to bad reproductive and relationship choices by straight women, leads to them entering dangerous relationships with geriatric scrotes, having babies with genetically inferior moids, etc.
are you new? this thread started out of the fandom thread because of a fat anime guy, it was never about normie women reproducing, who wants to reproduce with scrotes anyways? i want to see sexy scrotes i dont give a shit about being a bangmaiden for them or marrying.

No. 2501709

>>2501702
>And when I posted a photo of a man oiled up and almost entirely naked in tiny bikini bottoms
were are his tiny bikini bottoms? >>2501666 i am dying nonny are you legit blind? and is the picture you posted thats 50% blurred thing meant to be sexy too? kekk dont you have a single picture where the moid is actually fully showing his body? why are they always cropped and show 0 skin. You call yourself an ass and leg woman but you are too afraid of men actually showing ass and legs.
> maybe you can explain what you think women gain out of viewing moids in female lingerie, their faces shooped clean off, and in gay porn poses? How does it inoculate us against the psyop? Or are you saying the only aspect of the psyop you don't like is the lack of availability of masturbation materials?
We gain the power of choosing to sexualize men and express our sexuality however we want, thats it. Men get to choose if they want to fap to women in lingerie or their tradthot fantasies. We dont have the choice. Anything that isnt the guy you posted(and even that tbh) get labelled as gay or pornsick yada yada. I just want to be able to choose to have a dehumanizing sexuality like moids, its that easy. I am so tired of female sexuality being gatekept by people that think only women can dress like sex objects and only men can enjoy people dressing up like sex objects for them. I just want to see men in sexy clothes looking sexy for me, thats it. If you want to keep schlicking to the boring shit you posted, thats fine. I bet those kalven klein magazines must be like playboy to you. But i dont feel anything seeing that, because its boring. There is nothing taboo about seeing a shirtless guy posing like a dead fish, they do that for free in the beach. I want a guy willing to humilliate himself for my pleasure, like how straight women do on their daily sex lives for men.

No. 2501736

>>2501703
>yes if you bothered to check the accounts
Was I supposed to mind-read you that when you mentioned thirst traps you meant only, specifically, male cosplayers? I asked you to give examples of gay men understanding what women find attractive and playing to the female gaze better than straight moids, and you gave me two accounts full of gay softcore porn mainly aimed at moids. That's why I disagreed with you, because I thought these were not good examples of moids 'understanding what women want,' and I thought they were just two examples of your thesis that 'gay men make better thirst traps for women.' In fact, you said ONLY gay men make ANY thirst traps for women. I didn't realize that by 'any thirst traps for women' you meant 'thirst traps dressed up as my personal husbandos,' I thought you meant what you said, 'straight women.'

>single example of those eboys

You can just google e-boy. I don't know them by name, I don't use tiktok.

>Funny how you defend moids and claim there isnt a psyop

I never claimed there isn't a psyop, I said that only gay moids dressing up as your husbandos isn't the best evidence of the psyop. Some straight moids do attempt to look attractive to women, and part of the psyop is that older/uglier moids try to psyop those men into making themselves uglier (like making them take roids, grow beards, etc). Straight moids not dressing up as your specific husbandos is not a psyop - as you yourself stated, your otome games have a 99% female user base.

>i am sorry but i dont have the strength you have to schlick to black and white faces of moids

I don't shlick to images of men or porn at all, that's why I called masturbating to porn images coomerism. It's literally the definition. You admitted to cooming to gay porn accounts, then you asked why I was accusing you of cooming. I'm not a coomer and I'm anti-porn so I don't see much of an issue with insufficient coom material for women as I think pornography use is bad for both men and women.

>you havent disproven it and you have no arguments

I have no ability nor intention to disprove your assertion about what kind of porn you can or can't get off to. I believe you, nonna.

>Liking men showing skin is being pornsick now? are you amish or something anon. Do you like your men to keep their socks during sex?

Asked and responded.

>how would a man look attractive/sexy for the female gaze then?

By being attractive. Being attractive doesn't require any specific fetish getup. Attractive people are attractive. Hopefully if you're in a relationship with them, you see them naked.

>whats wrong with wanting men to look dehumanizing?

There are many threads on lolcow about what's wrong with porn and what's wrong with revolving human sexuality around dehumanization. If you can't see how something can be sexual without being dehumanizing, I think you have a lot of deprogramming to do.

>the playerbase is 90% women

I was talking about his instagram followers, anon. Remember that we are talking about the moid, tangtang, here.

>are you new?

No, I've been on the thread since the first thread, like I just said in the post above yours. I've read the contents of most of the threads, and that has been the main thrust of discussion no matter what infight in /g/ started it.

Anyway, I think I'm starting to understand what your point was and what you were originally intending to ask. It seems to me like your sense of your own sexual attraction to males is specifically tied to your husbandos or specific games that you play, and to rephrase your original question as you meant it, you were asking why gay moids cosplay as female otome game husbandos while most straight moids do not. My best answer to this question is that you're actually comparing professional softcore porn cosplay 'models' to normal people. Most of the women that cosplay as sexualized characters from male games are not hobbyist cosplayers, they're women who make a career and money from cosplaying as those characters and either going to cons, or posting on insta/OF. Essentially, they are sex workers or models. The sex worker or model female cosplayers tend to be conventionally attractive, and they dress up as characters popular with males because males are a majority of con attendees and also a majority of pornography consumers. Normal women who like cosplaying as a hobby usually don't dress up as these characters.

OTOH, you kind of answered your own question unintentionally when you asked why gay moids are more likely to dress up as your husbandos. It's because female games tend to sexualize the male characters more and put them in more sexualized costumes, and it's because most of the gay moids who cosplay as them are professional whores/OF/insta models. The gay moids do this because they want to appeal to moids, but also because they can easily google 'popular hot skimpy male anime/video game character' and find costumes that are skimpy and sexualized. Their OF and insta is probably followed mostly by other gay moids who like seeing gay men sexualizing themselves for the male gaze, so the skimpier the costume the better, but they can also make extra money from picking up some female fans who like the fact they're cosplaying as popular otome characters.

Why don't normal straight men do this? Well, most normal straight men don't participate in porn, ESPECIALLY not to appeal to women, as most women don't like men who star in porn. Almost all porn is directed at males, and even if women watch porn, they probably wouldn't want to date the straight men who do porn. Most males who cosplay at cons and as a hobby are ugly neckbeards who aren't there for women, and they prefer to dress up as characters from IP that they actually like/are invested in. They're probably too self conscious about their bodies to dress up as highly sexualized male characters from otome games because they're not professional porn models. Most of them, as you said, don't play the otome games, so they don't care about characters from female games. I think it's pretty self-explanatory why male weebs, who tend to be at the very bottom of the social totem pole and attractiveness hierarchy, are not attractive.

Most of the people doing porn are women, and most of the men doing porn are gay. Therefore, if you are looking for men who do porn professionally, they are more likely to be gay. Why don't straight men do porn? Because they find it degrading, and the women they want to date wouldn't like it anyway. The men who do degrading sexual shit almost 100% of the time do it for the male gaze, they are gay men. If you are specifically attracted to male feminization and degradation, then it is no wonder that most of the men acting that out for you are gay, because you have a minority preference. If you are asking why straight men don't hobby cosplay characters from games they don't play and haven't heard of, you need to read your question back and think about it, it answers itself.

No. 2501747

>>2501709
You asked me for a moid women would find generally attractive so I posted a moid with a FACE most women would find attractive, and an attractive body type, because I thought you were asking about an example of a hot moid and most women are attracted to beautiful faces primarily, and, second, fit body types. I didn't know you were asking for examples of good legs or 'pinups,' whatever that is but I don't consume porn so I don't have that at the ready for you sorry. FWIW nothing wrong with the legs of the moids you posted, it's their faces and presentation that are the problem. I just thought it was funny that you called this guy in briefs and no other clothing 'fully covered up' lmao.

>>2501709
>We gain the power of choosing to sexualize men and express our sexuality however we want, thats it.
Oh, I see, I am witnessing a zoomer woman discovering baby's first 2010-era liberal feminism. I'm sure that women will benefit from getting to be just as degenerate as scrotes and getting invested in gay male taboos any minute now. I don't promote women humiliating themselves for male pleasure and, as I said in an earlier post, I consider them class traitors/handmaidens.

No. 2501756

>>2501416
I've noticed the age gaps of romcoms are getting bigger. Some older examples:
Clueless: 8 years
She's all that: 4 years
10 things I hate about you: 2 years
How to lose a guy in 10 days: 9 years
Some of these age gaps were already big but the fact that it's getting worse says a lot.

No. 2501758

>>2501756
And in clueless the age gap is actually canon because it's based off Emma. Unlike all these modern movies where there is literally no reason to make the moid like 20 years older, it's not important to the story, it's not an adaptation, etc. They even made Joaquin Phoenix way older than his costar in Napoleon Bonaparte even though… she was significantly older than him irl.

No. 2501779

>>2501579
Source? I wanna read

No. 2501782

>>2501779
nta and I don't have a source but the original Flynn drawing does look exactly like Kristoff so I wouldn't be surprised if this was true.

No. 2501788

>>2501756
A non-romcom example but still extra appalling: Scarlett Johansson and Bill Murray in Lost in Translation, 17 and fucking 53. Also nearly every Woody Allen movie

No. 2501832

>>2501416
I find him good looking, especially when he was younger

No. 2501834

>>2501788
Well we all know Woody Allen is a pedo so that isn't surprising. The only surprising thing is that Hollywood continuously defends him as some genius of film when he makes the same mediocre self-insert movie every year.

No. 2501890

The anon who likes gay men has no idea what women like and is probably a repressed bisexual or something

No. 2501895

>>2501890
I don't think female bisexuals are any more likely to be into gay men anon…

No. 2502131

>>2501686
she doesn't because this is the UGLY man psyop thread, you actually should be banned for derailing about this faggot for so long

No. 2502143

>>2501691
you could have made your point posting like an 2010's e-boy but you undermine yourself posting someone so obviously, repulsively gay. you come across as a clueless fujo who has never fucked, and in real life if you show a guy or a girl the cosplayer you like they will absolutely think you are an autoandrophile degen and want to peg a guy

No. 2502152

>>2501702
it's a troll arguing in bad faith trying to shill autoandrophilia to make autistic girls fetishize gay men to make what agps do to lesbians less bad because there will be a group they can point to and say "see! women do it too!"

No. 2502156

>>2501895
i think she means that someone who is interested in gay men because they are actually interested in topping a woman but can't think about it that way because they are repressing and need a submissive receptive moid stand in to make the thoughts not gay.

No. 2502213

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>>2501736
>>2501747
patience of a saint, bless you nonna

No. 2502453

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pol have gotten very excited over this image and are making out women are going to be falling over themselves and saying they are all going to make it. Personally I think he looks average but they are insisting hes a chad. Thoughts?

No. 2502454

>>2502453
He looks like he's going to release aggressively mediocre music and then "live the dream" by getting addicted to ketamine and grooming a child.

No. 2502455

>>2502453
Who is this?it looks familiar

No. 2502457

>>2502455
Patrick Crusius, aka the El passo shooter

No. 2502459

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>>2502455
Mass shooter who became a meme

No. 2502461

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>>2502455
It’s the Chud himself

No. 2502464

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>>2502453
Men see a fellow XY with a jawline and think that alone makes his face a 10/10. The bar is in hell for them, and they keep kicking it down.

No. 2502470

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>>2502464
>Men see a fellow XY with a jawline and think that alone makes his face a 10/10.
Inside every man (not in that way) is a faggot just waiting to break free.

No. 2502483

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>>2502464
This was in that same thread. Not defending this guy but he males pol seethe like crazy kek.

No. 2502485

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Alright alright last one but yeah bar is in hell men are so delusional if they think that is what women want kek

No. 2502491

>>2502453
All he did was lose weight and grow out his hair. Still has that dead autism stare, also his hair looks greasy so I rate 2/10

No. 2502497

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>>2502453
Well the average chud look like picrel so I guess that's why they think he's a Chad. He killed multiple women so I don't care if he's attractive or not anyways

No. 2502500

Why did you choose this fucking threadpic? I don't want to have to keep scrolling past a woman kneeling next to a man's crotch every single time I go on this website, you fucking retard.

No. 2502505

>>2502500
Seconded, these threads need to have hot guys for maximum seethe.

No. 2502542

>>2502143
Was this a mistake? AYRT and I made a post saying women shouldn't be attracted to gay porn and you call me a fujo who has never fucked? I'm assuming you meant to respond to the other anon I was arguing with.

>>2502156
I don't think women interested in 'topping' women (what does that even mean in a female homosexual context?) get confused and think they want to fuck gay moids. If a woman wanted a submissive receptive man she would just continue to be straight, nothing to do with bisexuality.

>>2502464
If it were that easy shouldn't they all just lose weight? If a moid has low enough body fat he, too, can get a jawline. They unironically just showed a picture of a moid after minor weight loss and growing out his toddler haircut and were like 'this makes him a chad, a 10/10' so none of them have any excuses at all.

No. 2502546

>>2502542
I'm the anon who made the claim that faganon was a closeted bi. In no world does a healthy straight woman want a man who dresses in female lingerie, with his ass presenting and posing like a female pornstar. This manwoman caricature could not appeal to straight women because it's faggy as fuck and lesbians are obviously not into men no matter how feminine they are which leaves us with only bisexuals going to bat for such a thing.

No. 2502552

>>2502546
I'm bisexual and what you're saying is incredibly offensive. Bisexual women are not the dumping ground/whores that other sexualities of women use to explain all deviant behavior. Neither I nor any other bisexual woman I have ever known has wanted a man who dresses in female lingerie either. If anything it is fujos (straight women) and AAPs (straight women) who are attracted to gay moids. You have not explained in what possible world a woman who is attracted to WOMEN would somehow then be attracted to gay sex between MALES except by implying that bisexuals are mentally ill whores. I really hope you're baiting. There is only one type of woman who goes to bat for male fags and we all know what type of woman it is.

No. 2502562

>>2502546
Anon it’s really not that serious. Some women, including straight women, are just attracted to effeminate/androgynous moids. It’s not weird or degenerate. Everybody has different tastes and preferences. Just because you like masculine fit guys or whatever doesn’t mean all women do/should.

No. 2502570

>>2502562
tbh I wonder if it's some sort of internalized misogyny associating certain things that were never even natural to begin with as being intrinsic to women and desiring women, note the example with that nonna classifying a degrading porn pose as being inherently female even though it's really not.

No. 2502571

>>2502562
I don't think it's serious nona. We're in the UMP thread but me saying the vast majority of straight women aren't into fags is an issue? We don't want men in female lingerie that's my only point. Idc about the maladjusted jap obsessed or gay girls. I'm speaking for the majority of women which are a) straight and b) don't gravitate towards Asian media because the men are effeminate af. And this is coming from someone who likes Asian moids so I'm not hating just to hate kek

No. 2502575

>>2502570
Most porn the average person is exposed to is going to have a woman be the focal point. I'm not invested enough in the porn world to know if they have men posing like that nor do I care to find out. Even in the coomer art/pictures that make its way into my feed almost always has a woman with their ass out never men. I know you're trying to be all feminist or whatever but the reality is that straight men don't pose like they want someone to play in their ass for a reason

No. 2502579

>>2502571
AYRT and that’s my point nona. You are making all these generalizations that no “normal” straight women are attracted to men you deem as being “faggy.” But your definition for what makes a man “faggy” is just being androgynous or liking feminine things. Lots of women like these “faggy” types of men. Hell, there was a whole generation of regular hetero women in the 80s who were obsessed with long-haired, eye-liner wearing rock star moids in skin tight jeans my mother was one of them kek. Women who value beauty and aesthetics in men are not some fringe freakish sub-group like you think. They are just women who are different from you.

No. 2502580

>>2502579
Anon idk what to tell you. If you think fags and men with an alternative sense of style are one and the same then I won't insist.

No. 2502586

>>2502579
NTA but there is a huge difference between being attracted to androgynous/alt men and actual gay men. She's right that no mentally healthy straight woman would be obsessed with gay men, but neither would any mentally healthy bisexual or lesbian. The reality is that there is a large subset of straight women who are not mentally healthy who have a fixation on gay moids, for a variety of reasons.

Of course it is completely fine to be attracted to someone who isn't hypermasculine but there's nothing normal or natural about pornographic objectification, and it's ridiculous to call pornographic objectification 'feminine' anyway. Wearing eyeliner and being a rock star is not the same as being a homosexual who does offensive porny drag. There was nothing 'beautiful and aesthetic' about that cosplayer moid she kept shilling, he is an ugly gay man in offensive drag.

No. 2502591

>>2502570
I think you're talking about me in this post and if you are, you completely misinterpreted what I was saying. I didn't say it's 'inherently female' to do porn poses, I said they are poses female actresses are forced to do in porn, because they are a coomer moid fantasy. NO ONE, male or female, would intrinsically or inherently do these poses, but what they represent in the media and in society's eyes is female degradation. Men cosplaying this female degradation because they want to be fucked in the ass by moids aren't 'leveling the playing field' or 'acting GNC' or 'destroying the gender binary' or whatever you think they're doing, they're just mocking women's subjugation by the men they themselves love and want to please. They are cosplaying offensive stereotypes caused by trafficked women being raped and financially coerced in pornography BY MEN in order to please and get along with other men. THAT is why no mentally healthy woman of any sexuality would be attracted to it. It's like being attracted to someone calling you "cunt," "slut," "whore," to your face while having sex with you.

Just because something isn't intrinsic to women doesn't mean men should do it, much less be perceived as attractive while doing it. Why can anons here easily recognize this when AGP moids do this shit to masturbate to themselves in the mirror but as soon as a gay moid does it we're supposed to go, "oh yeah, that's so hot!"

No. 2502600

>>2502586
AYRT and I see what you mean. I agree with you both. There is a difference between regular gender nonconformity (rock stars) and porno fetish photography (the entities up thread). You’re both right and I change my mind. I misunderstood what the other nona was saying. I thought she was saying all androgynous/gender nonconforming moids were faggy and unappealing to straight women, but she literally was talking about those moids up thread doing the weird porno photo shoots that are most likely actually gay. I have seen the light.

No. 2502604

>>2502600
Yeah I can't speak for the other nonna but I assumed she meant attraction to actual gay men which she seems to confirm here >>2502580 although I disagree with her that straight girls gravitate toward Asian media because the men are effeminate af. Maybe she means specific animes or something because the most popular form of Asian media right now seems to be kdrama and the men in kdrama are not, imo, effeminate on average. She and I might have different ideas of what effeminate means. But anyway her original point seemed to be that the nonna upthread shilling the gay porn cosplayer moid is exhibiting an unhealthy form of sexuality which I agree with, for more reasons than one (she admitted to being a coomer, she admitted to thinking that sex is all about degradation and humiliation and that no one can be sexually attractive without being degraded, she said only gay men are attractive to women, seems to only be attracted to men in cosplay of her husbandos, extremely fixated on nudity as a proxy for attractiveness, several other weird things I don't want to comb through her posts again to recall).

They are not 'most likely gay' they are confirmed gay moids, which is what she said at the start of the discussion - they were her examples of 'gay moids being the only ones who understand how to be attractive to women' so none of us were talking about women being into effeminate-presenting straight men but confirmed gay porn models.

No. 2502665

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What do you think about cod cosplayers? This is pretty much the opposite of the above cosplay, but I think more guys are more likely to do something like this.
They hide their face (ugliest part+can hide identity) and the millitary gear is masculine by default so they just pose in various state of undress.

No. 2502676

>>2502665
That man is hiding his face, what can we possibly think about him?

No. 2502677

>>2502665
God I love ghost so much. He's mysterious aka knows how to regulate his emotions and knows how to be vulnerable without giving me the ick and is fit and trained to save me from danger. Bonus points cus he physically cannot be ugly since his face can't be seen so he can look like whatever I want him to at any given moment. Cosplayers get my seal of approval

No. 2502682

>>2502665
Too bulky/almost roided for my taste

No. 2502685

>>2502682
There are other cosplayers, this is just the first shirtless example i found.
But the character is supposed to be bulky so

No. 2502694

>>2502665
its interesting how most cod cosplayers only appeal to female audiences id say its a good thing for the yume nonas

No. 2502699

>>2502665
Looks gay plus they never show ass or legs. They are just boring. Too safe because they are insecure moids.

No. 2502732

>>2502665
I’d like to see him get railed up the ass but that’s as far as it goes. I don’t want a disgusting beast like that anywhere near me.

No. 2502793

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Has anyone else here seen this tweet that's been going around? I feel like it's fitting for this thread. It's some guy's before and after and how men think the right is what women want while women supposedly like the left. It's been getting quote rt'd and passed around a lot on twitter with women claiming men just don't know what "we" like and that all women supposedly would prefer the left over the right (like this person in my screenshot), but all I can think about while seeing this is that both of them look bad kek. I don't like the left or the right, because in both he's still balding and has a bad face for example. But the way people are talking about this on twitter it's like women have to like the left if they dislike the right and it's really weird to me.

It reminds me that it really annoys me how even when women are trying to tell men what "we" like supposedly, it's still full of this idea that women must ackshually all be into dad bods and men's personalities above all else, and the comments and qrts are full of that type of mentality too.

No. 2502795

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No. 2502808

>>2502665
Very likely that they are ugl but like nonna >>2502677 said, I also love ghost so much. I don't care about his actual face (or the cosplayer one) as long as the rest looks good kek. As much as I love Ghost, I tend to avoid cod cosplayers because I'm already very horny, and because I hate how many fans of it, especially Ghost, are weird tifs. But I really love men cosplaying masked characters.

No. 2502813

>>2502793
Both look bad, but in the after looks like his hairline has receded even more and I don't know, I've never liked the look of muscular bodies like that, I prefer them when they look "full" if that makes sense.
I think overall it's very hard to tell what women like because we are not as primitive as men, some women like dadbods some others like roidmoids. But I really hate when women find the ugliest man and call him the female gaze or "yeah, this is what we want". I wouldn't get annoyed if at least they picked someone decent looking kek, but they always say that about the ugliest moids.

No. 2502816

>>2502793
Tbh I prefer the left even though he's ugly in both. The physique on the right requires an insane amount of time in the gym and in the kitchen in terms of cutting/bulking cycles and if you've been around gym bros you will know how insufferable they can be and how it quickly turns into an eating disorder. A lot of women probably prefer the left because it's a bit more of a sensible and achievable approach to being fit.
Saying that though I don't know why men have to be retarded and act so oblivious to what women like or dislike. First of all it's completely different woman to woman, but if we're speaking in terms of the picrel, yeah most women are open and vocal about preferring a healthy figure on men with a healthy amount of fat. This whole male muscle roid fetish has always been a dickwaving contest for other men and I've never actually met any woman irl who has been into it. I'm sure there's some out there ofc but it really seems to be other men (and ironically, fags) who are into this kek.

I also think it can go too far to where women feel like we have to settle for some fat sloppy retard physique like what we see in this thread kek. It's like these retards can't figure out that generally speaking, women like a balanced healthy moid who isn't going to harm them in any way. They don't have to have a "dad bod" and they don't have to be ripped or 7ft tall either. Men also don't consider that women think differently (and more intelligently) and we assess a moid through the entire picture and the way he holds himself, compared to moids who will date a woman solely because she has a big ass or big boobs or because they have a specific fetish. They literally cannot comprehend that the average het woman probably just wants a man to look after her and treat her well and that he doesn't have to have 3% body fat or be built like a superhero. They can't understand that because their way of thinking is innately selfish, shallow and based on reducing people down to body parts.

No. 2502820

>>2502793
Yeah I get it, before looks less bald so it's probably that. But same, I wouldn't prefer either. Women do tend to care less about body because of the psyop but women on the internet take it to the extreme. In real life I've never met a woman who preferred fat men, they just don't care when their own scrote, which they already love, gets a dad bod because we aren't as shallow as men.

No. 2502824

>>2502793
I prefer muscular lean bodies, but maybe the reason woman picked left is because him being fatter makes his head look more proportional to his body? On the right picture he looks like a bobblehead. Both are still ugly, but I'd pick a man with a muscular body with a normal sized head over a fatty like on the left. Men shouldn't be fucking fat. Their testosterone cycles daily, they can eat way more calories than we can, there's literally no excuse.

No. 2502833

>>2502813
I feel like it's also hard to tell because lots of women have been psyopped into thinking looks just don't really matter for men and have had years of conditioning in that sense, plus if you voice your actual preferences you get men chimping out at you. Whereas with men they get to express themselves freely about whatever they like in women usually and all of society pandering to them and their tastes. And yes exactly that's what annoys me about this, they always throw around the female gaze buzzword (they were doing it under this tweet as well) about some ugly or mid moid when I'm a woman and my gaze isn't pleased by this guy, even on the left kek. They'll say they're into ugly men and pass it off as all women being into that, which bothers me.
>>2502816
Yeah, a lot of the qrts were assuming he must have an eating disorder on the right and talking about gym bros being annoying, which I understand but at the same time it's so weird how they act like that somehow means the left guy is some sort of adonis and what all women want. I feel like they come close to making a good point, that caring way too much about muscles and going to the gym is more so posturing for other males and that gym bros are annoying (correct), but then fumble it at the end by acting like this also means the ideal moid for women is someone who looks like the left and that women only care about personality or whatever, which I just can't agree with and just feels like it hits on the psyop again. I feel like women tend to look at the bigger picture for sure and don't look at men exactly the same way as men do, but I still don't really like this idea that I'm supposed to be fine with some hairy ugly overweight man that they love to peddle whenever this discussion comes up. It's like women who aren't into either and actually want a cute moid are just completely left out of the discussion since most women are psyopped into settling.
>>2502820
True, most women wouldn't go for a fat guy but they usually won't leave if he gets fat especially if they have kids.
>>2502824
Oh I could see that, his head looks weird on the right for sure.

No. 2502971

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No. 2502973

>>2502971
Kinda dumb to allow a scrote to speak to you disrespectfully just because he’s hot. Woman up and demand total subservience already.

No. 2502982

>>2502971
She looks ai and weird. Is it possible these are not her actual sentiments and she's attempting to generate content by posting opinions that normies find outrageous and engage in?

No. 2503010

>>2502793
For body type I would probably prefer something in between the two, since I do know what gym rat men are like and the physique on the right looks like a bit of an orthorexia red flag to me in a man that age, but the one on the left is a little too fat and blocky for my preferences. But he is too ugly to date in both (facially, hair, etc) imo, yet I can see why women went for the left image. He looks really goofy on the right, bobbleheaded, making a stupid pose, wearing that speedo, and it makes him look more bald. His smile looks more genuine in the left photo and he is wearing a more normal outfit for a public place compared to the right, and just genuinely doesn't have that 'vain manic man' appearance I associate with moids who are taking amphetamines and on a weird diet and possibly roiding. Many men are probably reacting to the subtler social cues in the image about what kind of person he looks like rather than the body itself, which is something I don't think men can understand because they never react to appearance cues if they're subtle.

No. 2503015

>>2502665
Pedophilic.

No. 2503019

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>>2502793
Found another pic of his '12 week transformation' on google and in this one I think almost all women would agree the right is better, so it probably is (largely) the pose.

No. 2503095

>>2502453
the computer ruins lives

No. 2503108

>>2502793
he would look better in the after if he wasn't steroid red

No. 2503110

>>2502665
these types of guys are like shy autists in public but weird bisexual sex maniacs in private so i don't care for them

No. 2503163

>>2502453
He does look slightly less ugly.. but still not good. and I avoid moids with that creepy dead eyed look like the plague

No. 2503232

File: 1745869907999.png (1.25 MB, 1170x2532, IMG_7117.png)

Wokies are upset Pinkpanthress didn’t include any fat males in her new music video. They can seethe, none of them were super handsome but all of the men were fit and thankfully most shots were of their abs. I feel like the UMP isn’t as prevalent in music videos, especially ones from the early 2000s.

No. 2503282

>>2502505
Same. I know we should take it to meta and that OP was just trying to follow the theme but I feel ill everytime I see it (and i've blocked the image but it still shows in catalogue)

No. 2503367

>>2502665
IMO this pic is hot and all men should have this physique (also masked guys seems to be a fetish of mine so im biased) but yeah the very least an ugly guy can do is get a hot body and cover his face.

No. 2503371

>>2503015
ew why are moids like this

No. 2503456

>>2502453
Proof that being coddled and babied makes men ugly. They should be grinding and suffering and fighting to make women’s lives easier from the moment they can stand.

No. 2503496

>>2503232
I feel so sad for the brainwashed women who complain about the lack of fat men in whatever just to virtue signal. Theyre completely retarded but they just can't help it (until they get smacked in the face with disgrossting moids everywhere, like how they asked for).

No. 2503645

>>2503019
Why is his head so big

No. 2503665

>>2503645
He's skullmaxxing

No. 2503673

>>2503367
Agree. I love masked men so much, and I really like that moid body.

No. 2503688

File: 1745895446946.png (663.43 KB, 655x835, ghost.png)

>>2502665
Thank you for sending me down this very based rabbithole, nona. I personally think masked guys are very hot, and I love seeing male cosplayers degrade themselves by wearing slutty costumes like this. Picrel is closer to my ideal type, 10/10 would love to scratch my fingernails hard down his chest while hearing his muffled whimpers of pain through the mask.

No. 2503689

>>2503645
He's male and over 20.

No. 2503690

>>2503688
Unless I see his face he's ugly

No. 2503692

>>2503690
But what if seeing his face makes him even uglier? The eternal conundrum, risking hooking up with an uggo even if they do have a hot body

No. 2503693

>>2503692
This is the ugly man psyop thread, i.e., the 'criticizing the ugly man psyop' thread not the 'perpetuating ugly man psyop' thread. Why are we defending ugly moids LARPing as attractive by covering their faces here?

No. 2503696

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>>2503690
ayrt and I take your point, sadly actually attractive men who have both a good face and a good body are so damn hard to come by. Young Tom Welling comes close, picrel. To me, a guy has to have both a strong, muscular body (personally I like them a bit leaner than picrel), but fine and almost delicate features – big eyes, nice full lips, clear cheeks, not "blocky" or "rugged" or "Chadlike" (moid cope for being walled imo).

No. 2503697

>>2503693
Agree with you. I'm one of those who like those masked guys, but we should be shitting on them. I'm sure most of those guys who cosplay masked men are ugly, and it sucks honestly that men are so hideous that we require them to cover their face to look slightly decent.

No. 2503700

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Which one do you hate the most? Botched "elf" prince, depressed hideous dad or ugly ass hell line cook?

No. 2503703

>>2503700
They should all be castrated and made into eunuch slaves.

No. 2503705

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>>2503696
Apparently my stepdad looked a lot like this guy when he was younger. My sister talks about how all her friends had a crush on him but he morphed into a kevin sorbo variation before he met my mom, who is she is very attracted to

No. 2503706

>>2503700
Can't decide between line cook and depressed father, at least theoretically someone in the 'elf prince' category could be non-botched.

No. 2503712

>>2503696
Lots of younger men have good bodies or at least acceptable bodies, it's really the face that's the issue. If a guy is under 30 and not a pig/has no hormonal diseases/exercises a bit he should have a fit body, might not look like a bodybuilder but he will have visible abs and musculature and not be fat. It's nice faces that are rare and hard to come by in moids, and of course, most moids get fat as they age. I also prefer more delicate and almost 'girly' features in men but I understand anons have varying tastes, but at least the moid should have a symmetrical face with proportionate features. I'd take a good face anyday over an ideal body because it literally takes like 1-2 months from a moid to go from a nothing body to a good body if he works out and diets. Not like women, who tend to have nicer faces and be beautiful but struggle to keep lean bodies after a certain age unless they're genetically lucky.

No. 2503730

>>2503724
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. (Non-premature) aging is natural in both men and women, it's not a psyop - if anything the idea women are worthless once they age or the idea that men age well is more of a psyop than anything, but accepting that human beings do age isn't a psyop, it's reality. If all goes well people pair up when they're relatively young, they enjoy each other's peak beauty for a while and eventually they both age out of peak beauty but have a good relationship. You should be disgusted by old moids when you're 25 but when you're 45 you probably won't be as disgusted by your peers, which is pretty normal. Do you find your grandma and grandpa disgusting? Hopefully not if they're good people, but you also shouldn't want to date people their age if you're young.

No. 2503740

>>2503696
hnnnng we used to be a society

No. 2503745

>>2503730
>>2489483
>do not try to defend ugly men ITT, go to unconventional male attractions to discuss uggos you like
This is what I'm referring to, as in you (or anon >>2503712 ) might get banned for breaking thread rules for posting that you're okay with a moid getting fat as he ages or losing hair, as this is considered "defending ugly men" kek

No. 2503782

>>2503745
I didn't say I'm okay with a moid getting fat or losing hair, are you delusional? I said most men over 30 start to get fat, I didn't say that was a good thing. I just said that accepting all human beings eventually age (i.e., get wrinkles, become less pretty) isn't a psyop - this isn't defending ugly moids, it's just pointing out reality. People age. Women age too. Ugly aged moids shouldn't be psyopped by promoting them in romantic media or superhero movies or whatever, the point of the psyop is that it tries to convince women that ugly geriatric moids are attractive and sexy. Recognizing the reality that eventually human beings get old and die isn't a psyop, we don't have to pretend they're attractive sexual partners for young women but we can be realistic about the fact that everyone ages and everyone eventually gets uglier.

No. 2503858

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>>2503700
i remember seeing a different version of this chart and i don't know which is worse

No. 2503868

>>2503700
>>2503858
It’s another tif simping for ugly moids just because they are white. Tifs would fuck quasimodo if he was real

No. 2503880

>>2503858
I'd say legolas is marginally preferable to whatever kpoop plastic moid is in the 'elf prince' category in the previous one, but the rest of the moids in this are geriatric. Did a Gen X woman make this? I want a zoomer to make a version of this and see what the zoomer taste is.

No. 2503883

>>2503880
I thought that stranger things guy and alcoholic chef were popular with zoomers, and markiplier popular with millennials (though he does have many underage fans)

No. 2503885

>>2503883
I'm clearly not media literate enough for this shit, the only moids I recognized were
>Legolas
>Pedro Pascal
>Jack Black
>Moid from that other LOTR spinoff
And they are all like 65 years old so I assume this is GenX taste. I know Pedro Pascal is supposedly popular with zoomers but who? I never met a woman who actually is into him, I think it's purely psyop.

>markiplier

Is that the one that looks like fat Keanu Reeves?

No. 2503899

>>2503885
>Is that the one that looks like fat Keanu Reeves?
kek yes

No. 2503921

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>>2503899
Oh boy. I remember hearing that there was a popular manga or webtoon or something based on Markiplier, but I never looked into who he is because I don't follow twitch/gamer moids online (if that's not what he is, sorry). But turns out it's fart Keanu Reeves, who was walled in like 2005 anyway. I know there's no accounting for taste but can't women find moids who aren't fat/haggard/old to put in their elf prince/line cook compilations? I thought Legolas was semi-cute in LOTR when I was in middle school in like 2003, but I don't think that media is even relevant anymore. He looks like picrel now.

No. 2504072

File: 1745934067297.jpg (Spoiler Image,96.29 KB, 889x1024, 1745855188526364.jpg)

Alright im gonna ask y'all dont give me shit for this because racism aside this image does hit on a point.

Men have been bitching that the average woman doesnt find the average man attractive but thats based on dating site data and studies showed that men overestimate their attractiveness (we are not shocked lol) but also most moids on dating sites are awful and theres more than women on there.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think

I was annoyed that people, especially women, were being nice to this sack of shit >>2497957 (why is he even allowed to tour college campuses?!) but he said the quiet part out loud- in one video he states the issue is that women will go for the best they can get but that means a lot of lower tier men get left out yeah and bitch? Thats nature. He's trying to humble women so they will pair with uggos like him. He also insists he has 3 side chicks on top of "his main women" but people in the comments still calling him gay. IDK I cant see any woman wanting to be with this manchild even if he does have money.

No. 2504121

>>2504072
The “average man” is not meant to breed, he exists to be cannon fodder or a worker bee. Things like patriarchy have unnaturally skewed human evolution by forcing women to resort to breeding with the kind of man who should have gone extinct 100s of years ago.

No. 2504307

>>2504072
Obviously most of the moids on online dating are the below average leftover losers who can't get girlfriends, so it seems pretty obvious they would be rated as below average by women because they are. Above average men aren't using online dating except in very rare circumstances. Why do leftover moids think they are entitled to date hot women?

No. 2505033

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>>2503015
>>2502665
Why are straight men incapable of being femgazey? why do they always have to ruin it with pedo and daddydom shit? you can have the hottest body(in this case i find him too roided but whatever) but if you do the whole daddy's kitten discord groomer shit it instantly dries my pussy.

No. 2505035

>>2503688
>slutty
>its just a shirtless guy
He's not feeling degraded stop lying to yourself. He would never put himself into actual slutty clothes because that would be emasculating.

No. 2506046

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No. 2506051

>>2506046
KEK, he is so pathetic. I love seeing moids in the depths of despair. I hope the Stacy is living a happy and fulfilling life and not giving him a second thought

No. 2506115

>>2505033
To be fair a lot of women encourage it too. If you look at cod fanfics a lot of them have the dd/bbg in them, huge age gaps and header images that show the woman wearing juvenile clothes

No. 2506527

File: 1746130175963.jpg (417.03 KB, 1080x1984, 1000014015.jpg)

One thing I love to see online is everyone always shitting on how dogshit ugly Benny Blanco looks. I've never seen so much unity among women and girls constantly shitting on his looks kek. Makes me have a little hope. Now, if we could raise their standards…

No. 2506791

>>2506527
He’s like a hairy mole on her face that gained sentience. You want to talk to her and listen to her but your eyes just keep getting dragged back to that unsightly beast no matter how hard you try and you can’t help but think “she has the money, why won’t she get it removed? That looks like it could become cancerous”

No. 2506843

>>2505035
Neither shirtless moids nor moids dressed 'slutty' are feeling degraded when they do it, the latter do it because they associate it with women and they want to degrade and mock women. The shit moids actually find degrading is women laughing at or ignoring them, not sexualizing them.

>>2506527
Speaking of degrading this is so degrading and pathetic, I wonder what happened to Selena Gomez to make her like this. Imagine not only acting desperate to date a subhuman looking moid like this but also him bragging about your desperation to make himself feel better in public. This is why women should never give ugly moids a chance, they will feel smug about it and use it to boost their own egos and throw whatever women were nice to them under the bus in the process, humiliating the women who give them a chance.

No. 2506848

>>2503696
I was watching this show at 12 years old. We used to have a standard.

No. 2507198

>>2503696
I have never seen this show. He looks insanely beautiful.

No. 2507275

>>2503700
Depressed hideous dad and line cook are the worst. At least for the "elf prince" they're still usually shaved, don't have receading hairlines, and groom themselves, and there's still the idea there that men are supposed to be pretty princes even if they don't look good in practice. While the other two assume you're meant to be attracted to old men and regular ugly men that don't even try at all.

No. 2507444

>>2507198
Tom Welling was my favorite Superman. It's a silly teen CW/WB show, but I enjoyed it for what it was. I think if you are able to find the episodes, check it out and see if you like it.

No. 2507809

Seeing people happy that Jojo Siwa is now straight because she fell for a moid on Big Brother angers me so much. I don't even think that she's attractive, she's not, but it's nevertheless saddening that people have no issue shipping a barely legal girl with a moid in his 30s. That guy is older than me and still get's to do whatever, meanwhile it feels as if I have been threatened with "you're gonna hit the wall soon!" since nearly a decade already. It's so unfair.

No. 2507928

>>2507809
>Jojo Siwa is now straight
Wait what? Right after that 'I'm redefining queer culture I'm making queer music a thing' music video?

>meanwhile it feels as if I have been threatened with "you're gonna hit the wall soon!" since nearly a decade already.

Don't worry, you're not going to hit the wall anywhere near as early as any moid. Most women unless they get incredibly sick age gracefully and remain beautiful, look like themselves with a few wrinkles and graying hair while male skulls balloon to double in size and their facial features melt. You're gonna be okay.

No. 2507998

How difficult is it to get a guy who’s “out of your league”? I’d consider myself average looking, but I’m only attracted to men who are prettier than me kek. It’s genuinely unfair the gap between the average woman and the average moid. I’m in my early 20s and most women my age still look extremely youthful, put in effort in their appearance, the average woman IS beautiful. Most men in their 20s already look like they’re in their 30s. Even if you do get an attractive man, the fact that he could devolve into an unrecognizable bloated corpse in only a couple years is terrifying.

No. 2508028

>>2507998
Physically out of your league? Not that difficult if you have the right personality. A lot of hot women don't even go for hot men so your chances are probably better than you think if you have the right personality to pull it off. Typically hot men will tend to go for women with dominant, 'fuck u moids' personalities who don't take any shit and who are very self-confident, because they're used to a lot of women simping for them and acting timid around them. As for them possibly devolving into an unrecognizable bloated corpse there's no real hedge against that other than observing their lifestyle habits (moids who don't have to try too hard to look good but have generally healthy habits they enjoy tend to age better than lazy moids or gymrat/orthorexic moids), hair loss on their maternal grandparents' side (most baldness comes from the maternal side) and facial structure (imagine your moid's head growing relative to his facial features, will he still look okay or will he look like a melting wax statue?) I think moids with somewhat feminine but still prominent bone structure/large features and gaunt faces tend to age better than men with excessively delicate facial features or very wide 'chad' faces and hunter eyes.

No. 2508044

>>2507998
Don't do it…

No. 2508147

>>2508044
Why are you encouraging an anon to date ugly men on the ugly man psyop thread?

No. 2508177

>>2506527
I keep getting accused of being shallow for not falling for his BS but it was just a matter of time. I hate this moid and how much he overcompensates in this relationship. The fact that they had to flaunt it for everyone for so long was so telling but people never seem to learn even though this exact scenario has played out a thousand times already.

No. 2508194

>>2508147
I never said that

No. 2508196

>>2508194
You said 'don't do it' to a nonna trying to date hotter men, so what are you saying?

>>2508177
Have you ever met someone who says he's attractive? I haven't.

No. 2508197

>>2508196
Better to not date men at all. Pump and dump if you must. Never date, never have emotional attachment.

No. 2508201

>>2508196
Not what I was saying. It was just pickmes parroting ‘Looks don’t matter!’ over and over again even though it was obvious he was going to devalue her from the beginning.

No. 2508208

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>>2508197
Some people want to date and have relationships, and it's better to date an attractive person if so.

>>2508201
They are retarded lmao, Selena Gomez would never have had a career in the first place if she wasn't pretty, but then she (and her fans) are all supposed to act like looks don't matter and seal clap while she settles down with some creature from the black lagoon? Would anyone be saying this if it was a hot moid and some hideous woman with less fame than him? Remember when Keanu Reeves announced he was dating that woman (who was like 9years younger than him I think) who was just some normie and all the moids started screeching she was too ugly and old for him?

No. 2508213

>>2508208
I don't understand how can someone say this woman is less attractive than him. They are on the same level in my opinion, just different phenotype

No. 2508234

>>2508213
Even more bafflingly they were arguing that she's too old for him even though he's a decade older. I guess once a moid hits 50 a woman needs to be at least 25 years younger than him in order to be well-matched.

No. 2508297

>>2508213
It's because she does not completely botch her face with plastic surgery and allowed her hair to go gray, unlike many women dating Hollywood moids. She's also not 25 years old like most pervy famous men his age date. God forbid he date someone vaguely age appropriate

No. 2508323

>>2508297
She's not even ugly or unkempt or fat or anything. She's just a pretty, stylish lady in her 50s with well-kept grey hair. I'd agree that Reeves has not aged that badly either but he looks cross-eyed and has an unkempt gross beard in most photos I see, he definitely looks worse than her.

No. 2508325

>>2508208
I think they are a very cute couple, and it's refreshing to see a man date a woman his age in hollywood.

No. 2508328

>>2508323
She's honestly really beautiful imo

No. 2508337

>>2508325
She's not even his age, she's still way younger than him. The fact people look at this couple and go 'this is an unusually small age gap' when it's 9 years really shines a light on the extent of the current problem. We're so used to seeing decrepit old corpses like Leo Decaprio date 19 year olds in their 50s that seeing a 55 year old date a 46 year old makes people go 'oh, that's such a weird age gap!' Except they don't mean it's too big, they mean it's too small.

No. 2508360

>>2508337
>She's not even his age, she's still way younger than him.
I think the overall public reaction was more about him being keanu reeves, considered one of the most likable and conventionally attractive celebrities by terminally online people and normies alike, with a very average woman. An anon recently said that people complain about how much better looking moids are than their partners and I could only think of a few examples but forgot to mention this one, even though it's the most talked about. Some people brought up leo bc they aren't very bright and he's such an obvious example but I think it was more about her being relatively unknown and having that jennifer anistan/girl-next-door look. He dated the way any regular moid would and that bothered his fans. By their logic, he should be able to find someone equally successful and famous for being beautiful (even if aging, like charlize theron) or unknown but young and supermodel gorgeous. She's neither of those things so it makes no sense to them and they seethe. It's weird how they love his ~every man~ persona, except when it comes to dating

No. 2508372

>>2508360
From what I understand they were close personal friends even before his wife died and got closer after his wife died, decided to date several years after his bereavement because they knew each other very well and had a trusting and loving bond. I don't know much about their personal life beyond what they said to the media but to me this was one of the only relatable celebrity love stories ever, if not the only relatable one. It's kind of hilarious that Keanu Reeves, celebrity darling of everyone including people who don't even like celebrities, dated in the most relatable, normal and human way possible (someone he actually knows and is close with) and the result was moids all over the world chimping the fuck out and saying he should have picked some random 20-year old model to traffick and dehumanize instead. Really shows you where these trad moids' priorities actually lie.

No. 2508987

>>2507809
I also feel like I've been called old basically my entire 20's. I was 23 thinking I was already too old and if you're a woman you're called old for basically 90% of your life, even if you look the same while the men around you are all balding and have wrinkles already.
>>2508234
It should be the other way around considering how terribly most men age. Most men should be like 5-10 years younger than the woman to compensate if they're gonna do age gaps.
>>2508360
Keanu is way past his prime in terms of looks and it's annoying how people act like he's still at the peak because men age like wine or whatever (lol). He didn't age that poorly compared to other men but he was definitely way better looking when he was younger. His beard and short hair also sucks and makes him look worse, especially in that picture.

No. 2509079

>>2502971
The same reason why a moid would cry rape if an ugly woman asked him to lunch but would love it if an attractive woman asked him to lunch. Attractive people are just allowed to flirt more aggressively

No. 2509087

File: 1746292372573.jpg (201.86 KB, 1195x1131, oh please.jpg)

I've yet to see any woman do this with this shooter the moids really want this to be real.

No. 2509088

>>2509087
It's projection because incels are obsessed with him and all want to fuck him kek. They've been freaking out about how hot he is ever since the mugshot came out. I haven't seen any women saying anything about him at all.

No. 2509090

>>2509087
I've seen women draw and write Eric and Dylan fucking before I've ever even seen ONE bitch talk about this Patrick faggot, and Eric and Dylan were high schoolers.

No. 2509092

File: 1746292652734.jpeg (48.84 KB, 500x376, IMG_1493.jpeg)

>>2509087
It’s so weird that I’ve only seen moids thirst for the 2025 chud KEK. Even with the first chud they couldn’t stop making fanart of him. Moids need to stop projecting onto everyone else.

No. 2509100

>>2509087
There's definitely a (small) group of women who are like this, you don't have to look further than /g/

No. 2509101

>>2509100
Total hybristo death now

No. 2509115

>>2509100
I really wanna know what kind of lifestyles those hybristofags have to be thirsting over a hairy, rather ugly man with yellowfever, a likely tranny fetish, and an MRA. Like what is their day-to-day lives? Do they jobs? Do they live with their parents? Do they have boyfriends? How do these faggots socialize with males?

No. 2509159

File: 1746294960850.jpeg (175.32 KB, 1236x1500, IMG_1910.jpeg)

>>2508987
Keanu aged well in comparison to other moids in Hollywood, but he is still a moid at the end of the day. Glorifying him for taking better care of himself than his contemporaries and their addict filler faces is just the bare minimum.

No. 2509165

File: 1746295030007.jpeg (143.74 KB, 1240x775, IMG_1911.jpeg)

>>2509159
He also looks closer to his age without the facial hair. That's doing heavy lifting

No. 2509173

>>2509165
They kind of look like furniture reupholsters working in the toronto region

No. 2509186

File: 1746295930908.jpeg (360.16 KB, 1814x2700, IMG_1912.jpeg)

>>2509173
When men age into butch lesbians

No. 2509221


No. 2509263

File: 1746298336206.jpg (Spoiler Image,194.81 KB, 392x332, what the fuck.jpg)

>>2509115
>jobs
No
>live with their parents
Yes
>boyfriends
No, they're saving themselves for Him
>how do these faggots socialize with males?
They don't.
You're supposed to think the woman is an ugly anorexic and the moid next to her is really handsome and you can't tell he's ugly because he's too blurry.

No. 2509415

>>2509263
What is this image/who's the girl? I don't follow the luigi threads, they frighten me.

No. 2509464

>>2509415
The girl is just a random girl

No. 2509521

>>2509115
I thought anon was referring to the actual Patrick post that was made in the unconventional thread a few days ago. God there's so many hybristos I can't keep up

No. 2509667

>>2509263
there are 2-3 anons tourists who consistently insult every womans appearance as if they are better

No. 2509678

File: 1746311057244.jpg (145.51 KB, 1108x831, bill-and-teds-excellent-advent…)

>>2509165
>>2509186
He seems like he aged well for a moid but when you compare to older pics it's just a tragedy. I'd actually say the other guy aged better, maybe because he wasn't as good looking to begin with.

No. 2509686

>>2509678
I don't think he looks good here either. Was he ever actually particularly attractive?

No. 2509785

File: 1746314009795.jpeg (59.5 KB, 392x500, IMG_1927.jpeg)

>>2509686
NTA but with the right styling, I thought he was handsome in the 90s-00s

No. 2510167

>>2509785
>>2509678
He was always 6/10 max, just like 99% of Hollywood moids. He's also a Zionist, claimed women love rape, and cheated on his girlfriend, so hes not as nice as the nice guy image he tries to construct for himself kek.(twitterfag sperging)

No. 2510172

File: 1746332570096.jpg (141.92 KB, 1080x1585, 1000004266.jpg)

>>2509263
Luigifags are living proof that mass delusion is real. He looks like a fucking Neanderthal.

No. 2510177

>>2502793
Most of the 'women' remaining on that hellsite after Elon bought it are either poltroons or turbopickmes so it doesn't surprise me they worship flabby overweight men. Whenever someone starts talking about their fat guy fetish I know it's either definitely a troon or turbo handmaiden who was probably sexually abused by some fat moid growing up and hates herself.

No. 2510180

>>2501610
>I like male butts as a woman
Only autistic virgin women ever say this. If you ever smelled a man's ass irl you would think very differently. Men's asses, farts and shits smell like death compared to women's, there's nothing sexy about the male ass.

No. 2510190

File: 1746333327193.png (1.46 KB, 320x320, upesayrrwkda1.png)

>>2510172
Why would you use this picrel???

No. 2510200

>>2510180
reminds me of that anon in the fetishes thread claiming that slavic men's asses smell "like heaven" and that she allegedly smelled them irl kekk

No. 2510204

File: 1746334223688.gif (8.71 MB, 540x400, 1000002637.gif)

I've been debating on posting this but….

Can anons tell me if finding him attractive is also a part of the psyop?

No. 2510210

>>2510200
LMAO WHAT THE FUCK

No. 2510215

File: 1746335314110.jpeg (48.53 KB, 453x720, IMG_4459.jpeg)

>>2510204
Tbh His model was better looking in the older games. Movie Wesker and RE:5 Wesker are def uggo tho

No. 2510218

File: 1746335496398.png (117.96 KB, 1196x685, 607.png)

>>2510210
behold. starts here >>>/g/535798

No. 2510222

>>2510218
Love how you can tell its written by an artistic American nona who never smelled a slavic moids ass in her life

No. 2510226

File: 1746336297865.jpg (139.26 KB, 1280x720, 1000002638.jpg)

>>2510215
You are right the movie version and the old grandpa version in the RE4 remake are ugly as fuck.
For some reason though I only find the blonde 2009 middle aged version of him hot and I have no idea why and I never even played the game, I just liked the way he looks and talks, what the fuck is wrong with me. That's the only version of him I find attractive too, I find all the other versions ugly except for this one. I have no idea why, I feel like a sperg.

Actually now that im learning more about him by learning the game lore I'm losing attraction to him, he is too evil and gay for me. Like…I didn't know he was THAT evil.

I am going to headcanon him as being less evil and make him semi-submissive for me to cope.

No. 2510250

File: 1746338280316.gif (669.16 KB, 527x640, IMG_4431.gif)

>>2510172
It’s insane, I think enough had been said about his huge nostrils and face but I also hate how his whole physical composition just screams nebbish mammas boy, the pale skin and weak frame just make me mad and they all worship him like he’s Chad thundercock himself. That thread made me a little bit internally misogynistic I think cause what the hell is wrong with us

No. 2510258

>>2510250
Sometimes I feel like I hate other women for being such retarded pickmes but then I remember we have literally been conditioned to lift ugly men's balls for tens of thousands of years in order to avoid being murdered by them so it's not really women's fault. We are all just victims of evolving alongside 'human' men, and women who resisted moid retardation were literally just killed during their chimpouts, which is why pickme genes are still so prevalent.

No. 2510259

>>2510258
I get what you’re saying, I’d argue women even have a biological tendency to over empathize and humanize males to their detriment. Like that thread is straight up AU fanfiction about this guy detached from reality.

No. 2510263

>>2510259
>women even have a biological tendency to over empathize and humanize males to their detriment
We literally do. It's depressing when you realize how many female behaviors are literally just survival mechanisms, products of patriarchal conditioning and thousands of years of being treated like cattle by moids.

No. 2510268

>>2495092
Being a heterosexual woman is a humiliation ritual. It's just a constant lifelong nerf. I can't imagine how awful it must be to be attracted to biological rape/kill/war machines that have the statistically highest rate of murdering you if you date them, out of no choice of your own. Moids would rather screech about lesbians scratching each other or pulling each other's hair than admit 80% of rapes and murders of women are carried out by either an intimate male partner, a male ex, or some other close male in her life.

No. 2510271

>>2510258
I think this too. The reality is that they’re just trying to survive and cope.

No. 2510289

so funny to me how men have spent 10+ years collectively seething over the whole beta bux alpha fucks meme, when men literally do the exact same with women (keeping the hot slut jezebels + stacy fux and the mid wifey/becky bux compartmentalized and separate)

No. 2510369

>>2510180
They're obviously referring to the visual aspect, nonnie. Flat male asses smell just as bad but if you had to choose you'd pick the more visually appealing option and I can get behind women liking the sight of ass on a man. It usually means he's fit.

No. 2510548

>>2510180
No one said they like the smell of moid farts nonna, but some women are heterosexual or bisexual and like for men's bodies to look fit.

>>2510250
>That thread made me a little bit internally misogynistic I think cause what the hell is wrong with us
That's why I can't read the thread. But to be fair I think it's the same handful of anons posting all the unhinged shit in that thread and there have always been some women who are unhealthy obsessed with random ugly/mid moids and there have always been hybristos so you just have to remember that its' not normal for women to be this way.

No. 2510563

>>2509087
The only hybristophiliac women are fatties or old women.

No. 2510571

>>2510204
Liking ugly moids isnt part of the psyop. Claiming they are attractive is.

No. 2510614

>>2510563
Or teenagers

No. 2510690

>>2510172
I’m a weegeefag and even I think he looks hideous here.

No. 2510901

File: 1746389946125.jpeg (330.23 KB, 1170x1220, IMG_7073.jpeg)

even moid lions lose their hair. i feel so bad for all the stacy lionesses

No. 2510904

File: 1746390006212.jpeg (94.56 KB, 1051x603, IMG_2307.jpeg)

“Men age like wine” meanwhile your average long term couple

No. 2510911

>>2510904
he looks like her fucking uncle

No. 2510920

>>2510904
Staying with something that looks like that is self harm

No. 2510924

>>2510901
Doesn't this happen when they are super sick and about to be killed by a stronger male lion
>>2510904
How do these women not want to kill themselves having to look like they're dating their dad? He was already walled when they got together. I don't understand what mental illness causes this.

No. 2510938

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No. 2510942

>>2510924
There are a lot of women who openly say that they're into "father figure" types and consider it a badge of honor to look like they're dating their dad. I don't get it. Maybe someone else here can unpack the psychology behind it.

No. 2510952

>>2510901
>>2510924
At least the stacy lions let the ugly and weak moid lion get killed by younger one. I guess that is one reason moids cope and seethe so hard about attractive young men. In natural order of things not only would old and/or ugly losers be rejected by women, but even killed for trying.

No. 2511022

>>2510904
Men are never allowed to complain about anything ever again. She’s absolutely stunning and he looks like a fucking gorilla. Girl don’t touch that thing you’re gonna get rabies!

No. 2511049

>>2510904
The crazy thing is that if you look at both pictures, his hairline is still the same. He was balding when she met him, he just styled it better and weighed less. You can kinda tell that he's been abusing steroids too, just by the growth of the nose, brow ridge, and skin colour change. Horrible.

No. 2511176

>>2509087
My main take away from this is that moids are aware that getting a buzzcut makes you a thousand times uglier, so why do they insist on it?

No. 2511223

>>2510942
The stereotype that certain women have daddy issues has some truth to it. I think a lot of it has to do with being raised by a single parent (either mother or father) and seeing that parent struggle without a partner. For women raised by a single dad, they might want to subconsciously fill that role (and men will often make their daughters take on household chores, even if they're young or have brothers who can do the same). For women raised by a single mom, they might start to romanticize this protective figure who could intercede when they fight with their mom/pay for the bills. Older moids pick up on this and target younger women from single parent households by trying to occupy these roles in their lives. I've seen it happen where a moid will date a girl's mom specifically so they can groom the girl and eventually end up with her.

No. 2511414

>>2511223
>For women raised by a single mom, they might start to romanticize this protective figure who could intercede when they fight with their mom/pay for the bills.
Joke's on them, most of the time when girls have a father around he doesn't intervene in shit, isn't protective of her in any meaningful way, and is basically useless as a parent anyway. I actually think dads are somewhat important for raising male children but I've only seen a handful of cases where dads meaningfully helped raise their daughters. Normally dads just seem kind of awkward around female children and let the mom take the lead on parenting her and even if the mom is some kind of cluster B crazy person the dad will just back up the mom and stay out of it.

No. 2511477

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No. 2511481

>>2511477
Tbh how do we know if that’s even genuine? Anons could just be doing it just to shit stir kek

No. 2511488

>>2511414
That's the reality of it but it's easier to imagine and get invested in a loving/caring father figure if you don't have an actual moid in your life, fucking things up kek

No. 2511492

>>2511488
I guess that's true. I had a present dad and he may as well have been a piece of furniture so I am always a little confused when women describe their 'daddy issues' if they had decent mothers when they start romanticizing the idea of having a present father. Like yeah the girls who had a present father I know don't have 'daddy issues' but they barely mention their dads anyway because most of them had a dad who sat in a corner reading an atlas or something you aren't missing much. I know some extremely involved and protective fathers exist but I have like maybe 2 female friends who described their dads that way and dozens that are just like 'well he existed somewhere off in a corner.' And that's not even getting into the women that had actual evil abuser or sexpest fathers which is a whole other issue.

No. 2511678

>>2511488
I feel like for me having a decent and present father made me more picky and have higher standards. I wouldn’t ever get with a bald fat retard like my dad but because he cooks and has manners that’s bare minimum to me. Chuck out his bad traits and look for the positive is what decent fathers are for, raising women with high standards.

No. 2511682

>>2511678
I had a decent father and feel the same. most of the time moids mock women who are raised by single mothers but often they have lower standards because of basically no father figure around so they don't have a good standard of what men should be like when they start dating. it's ironic their "fatherless behavior" is what makes them date trash moids who say things like that to begin with.

No. 2511688

>>2511682
I think moids know this deep down hence they start projecting.

No. 2511762

File: 1746458555627.jpg (2.16 MB, 2460x3300, 20250505_172017.jpg)

the big time rush guys in 2025. james was always the most handsome one and he's still handsome. the others weren't known for their looks but they all pretty much look the same other than kendall shaving his head. do you think this is an example of men not ageing badly after 15+ years?

No. 2511795

>>2511762
I am heartbroken, they look like trees in the winter… the white shirt dude (forgot his name) kept his hair but somehow got really doughy

No. 2511804

>>2511795
>I am heartbroken, they look like trees in the winter
lmao

No. 2511889

File: 1746464332947.jpg (Spoiler Image,213.61 KB, 800x1068, gustavo.jpg)

>>2511762
>do you think this is an example of men not ageing badly after 15+ years?
>Kendall
bald with a patchy beard, nose somehow grew longer and crooked; looks like Gustavo
>James
still horsefaced; concealer abuse edition
>Logan
buttchinned Michelinman
>Carlos
male pattern baldness
>bonus: they're all merely in their 30s
If this is an example of men aging well we're fucked sisters

No. 2511893

>>2511762
Holy shit nona I completely forgot about these guys! Despite never watching their show, I somehow still know all the words to the theme song. How do prettyboy moids turn into this in their mid 30s? Yeah, they're mid alright.

No. 2511898

File: 1746464643080.jpeg (62.8 KB, 544x400, IMG_7519.jpeg)

>>2511889
Perks of being an ugly man: You seemingly age better than the pretty ones, because he didn't really get much uglier.

No. 2512088

File: 1746472046039.mp4 (4.57 MB, 720x1280, 1000021697.mp4)

Got this zoomies gitl on my feed and didn't think much of it until I heard this. Men looking better in the past due to economic stability is something that should be explored more

No. 2512099

>>2510904
She got more beautiful with age, and he got even worse looking. More women need to be lesbians or bi sexual, because dating a man just cant be worth it.

No. 2512125

>>2511893
They were never prettyboys be real

No. 2512219

>>2510250
>that thread made me a little bit internally misogynistic
That's kind of how I feel reading a lot of the threads on here and interacting with some of the more retarded anons, ngl. Not like this site is representative of all women and men are still worse but yeah.
>>2510904
Sad thing is, most couples I know irl usually the guy already looks like the picture on the right when they start dating.
>>2511762
No, this is just the average male aging. I hate that when most men age they automatically stop shaving and grow a shitty beard plus get these lame ass haircuts (when they still have hair, anyways). Hell, a lot of them will do this as soon as they hit 20 even, they don't even need to age or be in their 30s or anything. It's like once they're past being a teenager a switch turns on in their brain that tells them they have to get shorter hair and grow their facial hair to assert that they're a grown man now. They didn't look great in the before picture but it's 100 times better than what they look like now because of the difference in how they were styled.

No. 2512227

>>2512088
i actually don't understand her point. she says economic instability is making men bald faster, but then saying they don't have to spend money on hair products? how exactly does the second part relate to the first?

but i do agree, however, a lot of ugly men got to be attractive in the past solely because they dressed nice and yes had a full head of styled hair. men these days be out here in capri shorts and a baggy tshirt and unkempt beards and think any woman should even look at them

No. 2512234

>>2512088
I just see this and I think about how women are still putting effort and money into their looks despite also not being financially well off. I'm broke and I still try to put some effort into my looks and try to take care of my hair. I've seen a lot of successful and rich men still look ugly and bald too. Especially because they don't think they need the looks and can just use their money to attract women instead.

No. 2512243

>>2512227
Because they are bald, they save money not buying products like shampoo, conditioner, which she is arguing as advantageous in a recession

No. 2512245

>>2512243
oh, does she mean guys who shave their head on purpose so they don't have to buy that stuff?

No. 2512252

File: 1746478230109.jpg (39.41 KB, 500x600, 1000021705.jpg)

>>2512245
That and that guys are incentivized to not take care of their hair, making balding more common. It might partly be the reason why the broccoli haircut is so common now that and that it haircut is likely influenced by black culture, It's pretty obvious that it's meant to mimic a low taper fade. Its is better suited for black dudes, but male fashion is just so homogenous now

No. 2512381

>>2512252
balding isn't made by "not taking care of your hair" lmao be real. unless they're jojo siwa, it's all genetics. if gross dreadlocks (the epitone of not taking care of your hair) for years and years doesn't result in balding, then surely you can admit that them not following a 5 step shampooing regimen won't result in balding LMAO.

No. 2512440

File: 1746487346949.jpg (99.4 KB, 640x853, 1000021706.jpg)

>>2512381
>dreads
>the epitome of not taking care of hair
Kinda a weird example imo, they are only low maintenance in comparison to other black hairstyles. If anything, balding and alopecia are usually caused by the retwist being too tight.

No. 2512481

>>2512440
Please spoiler this, my scalp had a visceral reaction thank you

No. 2512549

File: 1746493362896.png (124.62 KB, 583x676, 1000021707.png)

>>2512481
Honestly that picrel isn't even that strange, I've seen ones IRL that tight. That's less of a moid thing, and more of a loctician issue.
Speaking of bad hairstyles, I live in Florida, and I see dudes with these ugly wicks all the time, I can't take a single trip to Publix without seeing some moid with palm tree dreads

No. 2512569

>>2512549
Wow uh, my condolences. This is such a weird practice, putting all this effort to look so ugly. I was going to relate this to avian mating practices, but that at least makes some sense. Thanks for opening my eyes nona.

No. 2512633

File: 1746498335778.jpg (169.23 KB, 1110x1052, 1000023366.jpg)

Does this belong here? This just really reminds me of the media trope where the guy is ugly as hell, but as a hot as fuck wife. All of the female protags in like Fatal Frame are pretty and cute, meanwhile that random faggot James from Silent Hill just looks like any kind of fucker you'd see on the street kek

No. 2512655

>>2512633
Sometimes I think males make games like this kek:
Choose your fighter!
>Girl I want to skinwalk
>Divorced man based on my dad

No. 2512675

>>2512633
i read somewhere that female horror protags are intentionally made attractive so the presumably male player would be more protective of her and fear for her safety, thus increasing the tension while playing the game. even the pic you posted highlights that she's "vulnerable".

No. 2512697

File: 1746505495162.jpeg (99.93 KB, 736x643, 1746031749152.jpeg)

>>2512633
Because men are incapable of making human female characters, they have to be waifubait first. Art really reflects how men see women.

No. 2512702

>>2512697
Oh look, it's One Piece!

God that shit is infuriating. I can't think about it too long or it honestly starts to hurt my feelings. Like how Disney thinks the only face a (good and not evil) female should have is huge eyes and a tiny button nose. Men will never, EVER have the right to complain about beauty standards, they get so much leeway and we're crushed into submission by 24/7 messaging about how there is only one acceptable way for us to look.

No. 2512726

File: 1746508602908.png (781.95 KB, 1280x924, image-25.png)

>>2512697
>>2512702
this is probably an unpopular opinion but the image specifically has more to do with you negatively viewing yourself and other women more than it has to do with men sexualizing women. the average man sees the average woman as attractive AT MINIMUM. most of the time the woman will be viewed as hot for one reason or another, whether its face or body or both, there will be some factor they like. when it comes to other men, they view themselves more objectively for better or for worse… they can tell what makes men unattractive or ugly or interesting, so this causes a lot of variety. a woman has to be so specifically ugly or fat in some way for them to even view her as unattractive, that's why the token ugly girl always looks so comical (to women). anywho, women view each other objectively/harshly, however you want to put it, and women also view men objectively/harshly. so when you complain about what is essentially "another hot woman" in media, you're expecting men to go out of their way to specifically cast someone they would find so ugly, essentially rewire their brains to find women ugly the way women find men and other women ugly. the fat ginger in horizon… nobody liked her. women, men, nobody, because they fatified and uglified the real life model used for the character just for the sake of "ugly women in games" diversity. basically, when men find a woman attractive, women will either agree or think she's not all that. but when men find a woman ugly, women will also find her very terribly ugly too.

No. 2512733

File: 1746509357187.png (493.43 KB, 855x813, horizon dawn.png)

>>2512726
>the average man sees the average woman as attractive AT MINIMUM. most of the time the woman will be viewed as hot for one reason or another, whether its face or body or both, there will be some factor they like.
Men fucking anything that moves doesnt mean they find those women attractive. Men fuck fucking trannies for god's sake. You are confussing moids being opportunistic with men actually finding women attractive. Men get grossed out by fucking body hair, they have insanely high standards for women that dont apply to themselves or other men. Also aloy looks normal and leagues better than the moids from the same game. Hilarious that moids find her ugly when she and the other female characters still look miles cuter than the putrid moids in it.

No. 2512735

>>2512733
she is ugly though. and fat. this is the ugly MAN psyop thread though so lets just stop posting women altogether.

No. 2512737

>>2512735
>she is ugly
says who, moids?

No. 2512739

>>2512737
no, me. her face looks like a bloated hormone problem corpse. and my opinion is fact so this discussion ends here.

No. 2512741

>>2512739
You sound underage. And considering you fall for fat culture war shit you probably are. Wake me the fuck up when there is a videogame with a female character thats as ugly as Kratos.

No. 2512742

>>2512741
Well actually she does look like thyroid moonface.
However what bothers me more is not that she is ""ugly"" but that her face reminds me of my school bullies.

No. 2512744

>>2512741
lol i wish i was underage and have so many years removed from my age. i can be whatever you want me to be if it makes you feel better that you're as fat as her and feeling upset that someone would call a character so obviously fat, fat.(infighting)

No. 2512746

>>2512744
You are the reason the psyop exists btw. Why are you even here? fuck off back to leddit.

No. 2512748

>>2512746
sure. you know you can just pretend to not be upset and fat, its the internet so nobody will know.(infighting)

No. 2512749

>>2512748
>haha i called you fat on the internetz, OWNED!!1!!
sure anon, now go back to assmongold's chat or rev says desu's comment section to sperg about the lattest mentally ill incel coomer temper tantrum.

No. 2512750

>>2512749
you're more online than i am for even knowing what half of those words are. less imageboard more starve yourself(infighting)

No. 2512754

>>2512750
lol i wish aloys was ugly, it would be so based to see moids and pickmes like you seethe over an actual ugly female character on the level of uglyness as kratos or arthur morgan. But videogames will never allow ugly women to be main characters.

No. 2512757

>>2512754
interesting point, but considering aloy exists there have definitely been a couple of fat and ugly woman main characters!

No. 2512760

File: 1746511517726.webp (88.84 KB, 860x484, anachans be seething.webp)

>>2512757
>thinking aloy is on the same level as kratos and arthur morgan
ok pickme chan, i see starving yourself for moids has clearly reduced your grey matter. Go eat ice cubes or something, bone rattler.

No. 2512788

>>2512760
her moon face is so gross

No. 2512793

>>2512788
do you play videogames? or are you just being reactionary. If you think she's gross then i have no idea how you are able to play any videogame considering most feature the most horrid men imaginable.

No. 2512795

>>2512793
Don’t even argue with her, she’s starved off all her grey matter and can’t even recognise that she stinks of piss, has foetid breath, is balding and walks around with the gait of a 90 year old woman.

No. 2512797

>>2512795
no amount of seething will change how objectively overweight that character is. she literally has a turkey neck kek

No. 2512798

>>2512797
You were probably ugly with poor fat distribution to begin with and that’s why you became anorexic. It’s probably a good thing, make yourself infertile so you don’t pass on those unfortunate genes.

No. 2512799

>>2512797
You are the only one seething over a fictional woman. Like damn your life must be sad if you think this >>2512760 is fat.

No. 2512803

>>2512633
The female protagonist is meant to be the woman the player (assumed by companies to be a man based on demographics) is saving through gameplay. She has to be sexually appealing so that the player feels incentive to save her. The male protagonist is meant to be the stand-in for the player (assumed to be a man), so he has to be generic and dull so that it's easy for the player to "become" the character.

When you see a female protagonist, you have to ask: is the audience meant to be mostly male or mostly female? If the audience is meant to be mostly male, then the character exists to sexually appeal to them. If the audience is meant to be mostly female, then the character exists to be relatable.

Hopefully that makes sense.

No. 2512806

>>2512726
>the image specifically has more to do with you negatively viewing yourself and other women more than it has to do with men sexualizing women
>pic is a row of wasp waisted big boobied same faced women in revealing clothing contrasted with a row of literal ogres
You're also ignoring the fact that women design male characters resembling the top row deformities literally all the time to the point where seeing a good looking male character is rare yet still seen as boring and uncreative therefore highly scrutinized.

No. 2512814

File: 1746519216358.jpg (38.19 KB, 516x516, 1771865.jpg)

>me watching this infight go down while being moonfaced and skelly at the same time
but really, sometimes fat just travels weirdly because the character's body looks average weight despite the face. also i thought moonfaces were considered youthful looking. i have a feeling if that character had a sharp or long face anon would call her "man faced" instead

No. 2512819

>>2512814
Dont let the opinions of pickme anachans newfags get to you. She doesnt belong her.

No. 2512821

File: 1746520009129.png (622.25 KB, 640x634, 1000035522.png)

The fact it's even a cause for debate when a female character is ugly, or even just not sexualised enough, is proof enough that the psyop exists.

No. 2512837

>>2510904
Did he become an addict and recovered in the span of 8 years? Is this a result of roid abuse? I refuse to believe this is normal aging, even for moids

No. 2512863

File: 1746523664474.jpeg (Spoiler Image,1.08 MB, 3703x2298, IMG_2984.jpeg)

So desperate to the point he’s trying to do a psyop of himself

No. 2512865

>>2512863
This is absolutely pathetic kekaroo. On par with hosting your own fanpage.

No. 2512866

File: 1746523824027.jpeg (40.3 KB, 554x554, IMG_6081.jpeg)

>>2509263
It pisses me off how they talk about women in those threads. Everyone is apparently a fat tranny BPD anorexic compared to him. Like first of all no man is worth behaving this way for but especially not Turkish!Remy.
Picrel Luigi’s female looksmatch (eyebrows still too light)

No. 2512871

>>2512863
Why is there a black hole forming on his stomach?

No. 2512881

>>2512837
Roid abuse. All the signs.
>>2512863
Oh, "Geggy," you should be way more worried about that shitty comb-over than your bad body composition.

No. 2512995

>>2512866
Please do not insult Neanderthal women in this way. They deserve better.

No. 2513009

>>2512995
Soz I genuinely couldn’t find a woman with the same monobrow and nostrils. Maybe Caroline ellison, she’s the same kind of weird curly hair, and she was into right wing tech scams.

No. 2513013

>>2509785
Even though he wasnt comic book accurate, I always enjoyed Keanu in the role of Constantine.

No. 2513015

>>2510204
>>2510215
>>2510226
RE5 Wesker was peak imo. I'm going to go replay the game now.

No. 2513038

She deserves so much better this video is so sad

No. 2513044

File: 1746538473753.jpg (611.65 KB, 774x1251, hshsjs.jpg)

>>2513038
Sameanon but not only he is older uglier and fatter than her but also is an alcoholic according to their admission

No. 2513051

>>2513038
>golden retriever
My god, this fucker isn't even blonde. Aren't "golden retriever men" supposed to be friendly, ditzy blonde himbos who need sex to be explained to them? Can normie women please stop using "golden retriever" on any moid just because he's not actively acting like a literal ape? It's another way in which the bar stays consistently low for scrotes.

No. 2513121

>>2513038
>>2513044
Holy fuck, he looks like an fat inbred thumb. He's also "non-binary" so expect her to become a trans widow soon. The comments are so nauseating as well.

No. 2513306

File: 1746548762232.jpeg (Spoiler Image,263.94 KB, 829x746, IMG_9191.jpeg)

What percentage of women would you say are hybristos? At first I thought like.1% but now I am thinking at least 15%

No. 2513356

Holy fucking shit, pedro pascal and waton gogins in one movie, fucking hell good luck to anyone with eyes and taste working in movie theatres when this shitshow drops, fucking ass faced scrotes are a menance to society and so are their fellow moids and pickmes who hype them up as the ideal male…we used have hotties and cuties on our screens, they took everything from us

No. 2513364

So, that 764 pedo/extortion discord ring got busted and as expected, every single male member was a hideous subhuman abomination.

These men were making underage girls cut themselves while masturbating on camera, forcing them to bite their head off their hamsters or stab their dogs while playing ISIS music, cut swastikas and names into their bodies and stream their suicides. This girl's story is heartbreaking, she is still covered in keloid scars from the ordeal. Lesson is never ever feel sympathy for ugly men, they are usually as hideous inside and they are outside.

No. 2513366

>>2513356
Insane that people try to shill this breathing ballsack as attractive

No. 2513376

>>2513051
I swear terminally online idiots dont know words have meaning. So many words are used word now, like golden retriever and twink. Make it stop

No. 2513381

>>2513356
Pick mes are the downfall of society. We could vote with our wallet, have our voices be heard, but no… You have bitches who shill for Pedro and pretend he is gorgeous and 'zaddy.' I want off this planet.

No. 2513716

File: 1746564785080.png (581.31 KB, 759x843, Screenshot 2025-05-06 134954.p…)

on the topic of how shitty men dress and how ugly it makes them. i went to a convention recently wearing a dress and putting on nice makeup and all the men were dressed like slobs, i was like why do i even bother. not that i was there to get a bf but it feels pointless to get all nicely dressed in a world where at least 50% of the population thinks it's fine to go out in their pajamas

No. 2513776

>>2512863
his hair pattern makes his torso look like homer simpson with smol eyes

No. 2513777

>>2513716
Your picrel still has more effort in it than the average male outfit, most put on a t shirt and shorts. Maybe a graphic hoodie

No. 2513791

>>2512863
Unfortunate body type. Imagine being male, going to the gym, and still having a mid fatty physique. lol

No. 2513792

>>2512744
>i wish i was underage and have so many years removed from my age

Nta but insecure ass bitch lol no wonder you’re sperging about a vidya character

No. 2513833

>>2512863
Wtf is wrong with his stomach, looks like a paraplegic tried painting the crucifiction of Jesus Christ

No. 2513896

File: 1746574823932.jpg (163.4 KB, 1080x608, 1000029868.jpg)

I know it's a meme and the men on the right are not actors, and that actors were always just a small % of all men, but it's amazing how much more attractive were the big male leads in older movies in comparison to male leads in modern movies. I'm a big movie buff so I've seen a lot of movies from 50s and 60s and the difference is stagerring. You can compare like top 6 actors from that time to top 6 actors from our time and it's like heaven and hell. The 50s and 60s mogg even 90s in my opinion, because I always considered Leo to be ugly and not even a good twink, so what else did the 90s had except him and Pitt and Depp? Nothing. It's not just about grooming and the fact the male stars did it better in the 50s and 60s, those men literally had better facial bone structures and better hair and voices and bodies, without roids at that
btw it always weirds me out that according to studies modern men have less testosterone than the men in the 50s-70s, but at the same time the average height of men increased over the years. How is this possible if testosterone influences hormones responsible for height?

No. 2513904

>>2512797
your mother's overweight with a turkey neck

No. 2513922

>>2513896
>men on the right are not actors
>wil wheaton
Well, you've got that right kek

No. 2513961

>>2513038
She deserves her cute metrosexual anime twink emo moid…It's never too late to get a divorce

No. 2514003

>>2513896
>Modern men are taller
It's due to higher access to food in developing countries. The green revolution was still a relatively new phenomenon in the 60s and 70s, and modern men have lived in an era where they are less exposed to diseases that stunt growth.

No. 2514013

>>2513896
Testosterone in men signals for the growth plates to fuse.

No. 2514046

>>2510204
Idc about him but I find the fact that his fandom (fat pickmes and tifs) ships him with that barely legal girl (Rebecca) who is 30+ years younger than him to be very creepy than gross.

No. 2514095

>>2513896
It has a bit to do with nepotism. When Hollywood was just beginning, they brought in the best, the brightest, and the most attractive stars because they were the ones that audiences were most interested in seeing perform. As Hollywood developed, and time passed, these OG stars began having ugly children and due to the family ties those ugly children started getting roles based on nepotistic connection rather than talent or beauty. Of course there are new actors every year that get discovered, but the majority of the film industry sustains itself on old connections and familial ties.

>so what else did the 90s had except him and Pitt and Depp? Nothing. It's not just about grooming and the fact the male stars did it better in the 50s and 60s

The times are different. Pop culture is always changing, Pitt and Depp were great for the 90s grungey Gen X atmosphere.

No. 2514318

Remember those sexy vids of chinese mermans swimming for women? well they introduced lardasses to ruin the fun. They belong in the manatee exhibit.

No. 2514330

>>2514318
why are they not hot? why are all male entertainers ugly like what happened

No. 2514332

>>2514046
I don't play RE and the only times I see that guy is when he's fucking leon.

No. 2514352

File: 1746613815410.gif (3.67 MB, 540x396, IMG_1026.gif)

My bf is 17 and I’m 21 (before moralfags come after me it’s legal and who cares he’s a moidlet). He is in his absolute prime and he looks like a doll with huge round eyes, long eyelashes, a tiny nose, full lips, soft golden skin, and long beautiful curly hair. He has such a soft and cute face he literally looks like a meitu filter sometimes. He also has a 7 inch perfect dick and I’m cherishing this before he hits the wall in 3 years. Get a younger bf nonas, do what the scrotes do already with us

No. 2514355

>>2514352
Kek I thought this said you were 17 and he was 21 at first and I was about to pop a vein. I'm happy for you nona, enjoy his ephemeral beauty and throw him away when he walls.

No. 2514356

>>2514352
Nice, no true man hater would ever condemn you. Ride that comet before it balds amen

No. 2514361

>>2514318
I just saw vid related and wanted to post it.
>uwu he doesn't hurt anybody, why do you have to be so mean???
1. he hurts my eyes and heart, 2. if he wants to be fat and naked he can do that in his freetime, this bitch get's paid for this shit!
It feels so hopeless anons, even China is falling…
Plus it's really obvious that he's a fag and wants an uwu girly little mermaid experience, they can't just let us have one thing…

No. 2514363

>>2514352
post pics of your nigel

No. 2514369

>>2514363
I wish I could I know you’d all eat him up kek. He’s Portuguese, so he has dark features and very golden coloured skin I fetishise it so much lol. But like he genuinely does look like a doll or a meitu filter it’s insane. His dick is amazing too ugh lol he’s gorgeous

No. 2514394

>>2514361
I used to always be about accepting all body types and that feeling went to men as well. I literally can't bring myself to ever defend males. They can't even handle a average looking woman in a video game while every flavor of hideous ugly old moid has been normalized since the dawn of time. They don't give a fuck about the harm they do to women and young girls. They never care. Maybe 10% of males have empathy toward that thing. But it literally is so blackpilling and depressing when you realize most don't care at all.

No. 2514395

>>2514352
Good for you Nona, just don’t get roped into staying with him when he gets ugly.

No. 2514404

>>2514369
Generate lookalikes of him using picsyou or you’re a coward

No. 2514421

>>2514352
Holy BASED

No. 2514426

>>2514352
lmao sounds heavenly anon, i know moralfags would jump you if you posted this elsewhere but you really found a one-in-a-trillion scrotelet. im glad for you, meanwhile i'm trying but failing to find my own cute moidlet that isnt a pornbrained wannabe-rapeape kek

No. 2514434

File: 1746623920391.jpg (64.28 KB, 640x493, 1000006338.jpg)

He's making moids seethe so hard kek, this is literally the minimum effort

No. 2514436

>>2514434
This looks disgusting

No. 2514448

>>2514434
Sorry if this is off topic and belongs more in the fandom thread but FUCK FUJO PICKMES.

I can't search anything about him, the main female protagonist or gta6 on tiktok without the comments being by demented fujos in the comments wishing he was fucking men, lying that he is bi,treating the female protagonist like she is a threat etc and many of them have profile pics of kpop boys.

Listen i like yaoi too but I still don't understand why so many fujos are misogynistic. Instead of being happy that we finally have a female protagonist in gta they are seething instead. It's like fujos want only men to exist in media and for all women to be hidden. fujos are like Muslim level pickmes.(fujosperging outside of containment)

No. 2514451

>>2514448
I don't think those demented people exist, you're just getting mad at algorithmic AI noise…

No. 2514462

>>2514448
Nta but are you genuinely surprised that a misogynistic game like GTA attracts fangirls who like making the moids in it get fucked?

No. 2514467

>>2514462
"Get fucked" but it's usually lovey dovey uwu-fication by the TiF or TiF-adjacent variety who are most likely the ones being obnoxiously loud

No. 2514468

>>2514369
>Portuguese
You must've found the one portuguese guy who doesn't look like shit because most of them are ugly as fuck. They hit the wall super hard too, I've never seen one past 25 that doesn't look bad unless he was gay. Goes for most men not just them, but still.

No. 2514469

i wish i could spoiler picrel in the catalog

No. 2514471

>>2514468
not the op but this applies to every single country

No. 2514473

>>2514471
Yeah that's what I said at the end
>Goes for most men not just them, but still.

But I'm portuguese and it's so bad that I mostly dated foreigners.

No. 2514481

>>2514434
I've only seen gay moids thirsting for him, why would he make straight moids mad? At least the girl is cute.

No. 2514484

File: 1746628096692.jpg (779.34 KB, 2017x2206, 1000028835.jpg)

>>2514448
Not to defend fujos but imo most people (not just men) are shit at writing female characters. And tbh if I have to choose between media with compelling male characters and shitty female characters OR media with only compelling male characters and no female characters at all, I prefer the later. I can count the female characters in fiction I like on my fingers, and they're still not as layered and deep and conflicted and nuanced like the best male characters, and they don't have compelling character journeys and interesting conflicts and drama that isn't revolved around romance. Unfortunately, the male represents the "universal human experience" in art. Meanwhile the female is still mostly definited by how society views females; concerned mostly with relationships, children, caring for others etc. I don't care about that stuff. I love Revolutionary Girl Utena, it has GREAT female characters. Still in my top. And yet, the core of the whole drama is the female being the scapegoat for the male and how the female tries to break free from female stereotypes… yes, it's great and more revolutionary than most female centered media. But the characters are still not on the same level as the best male characters. And one of the pivotal elements in it is still female sexual trauma and sexual coercion, like it's literally integrated into female identity and I can't escape seeing females being sexually abused in one way or another even in fiction. Males almost never get sexually abused in fiction (I can think of Berserk, where the male protag is raped as a child). It's like females can't have adventures and fight for ideals or power or freedom without being a rape bait at some point or wanting romance or kids… nope, not even in fiction. I don't see many female characters with interesting conflicts or motivations like for example Kreia in KOTOR 2 (she literally wants to destroy the Force, essentially kill god because she wants people to have free will. AND on top of that she's super old so moids don't sexualize her weeeew). So yeah. I prefer to watch media focused on males rather than media with nice male characters and shitty female ones because with that second option I am constantly being reminded of "what could've been" and I constantly compare the male and female struggle, weight, depth etc. And it pains me. I write my own shit for myself with female characters I would like to see for that reason. Even I noticed I'm not free from being biased, it's really the best to just write the character like you would write a man and then just switch sex

No. 2514525

>>2514448
idk why they’re booing you you’re right

No. 2514746

>>2514434
Good, I’m glad they’re mad

No. 2515840

>>2514434
Mad about what? I thought this would be their own ideal
>hairy
>beard
>random ugly ass tattoo
>jacked

No. 2515871

>>2510172
Even worse, in addition to being ugly he is a porn addict and a sex tourist with an Asian fetish who went to SEA to fuck trannies. And theyre still capeing for him. Gross.

No. 2515879

File: 1746683148276.webp (18.48 KB, 828x1205, f96347929a3650ee5aedb9a1779913…)

>>2514434
>bearded
>small tits
>hairy like an ape
>built like a fridge
>shitty ghetto fashion
no, thank you. Make it look like this and i will praise your slop, rockstar. That or bring back manhunt or make bully 2.

No. 2515884

File: 1746683369914.gif (1.72 MB, 480x270, 0f732afbc071dc3ef76a099928414a…)

>>2514434
>male gaze idea of a 'chad'
>its some old, bloated, sweaty, sunburned, redneck roidpig with a haggard face and ugly beard and comical looking abs
Men have absolutely no idea what women want.

No. 2515887

>>2515884
Theyre pandering to what their scrote audience and fat reddit gaymer pickme hags with standards through the floor want.

No. 2516106

File: 1746701799448.jpg (292.89 KB, 1119x1267, 1000030149.jpg)

>>2513896
I'm marathoning young Heston movies and this shit makes me fucking insane I would go rabid and climb him like a tree

No. 2516115

>>2514394
men never reciprocate so women just be just as bitchy, men only improve with harassment

No. 2516123

File: 1746703113212.png (1.19 MB, 736x914, IMG_5784.png)

Just a general FYI: threadpic is horrible. This isn’t meant to be a demoralization thread. We need hot guys thread pics to 1. Set standards 2. Generate seethe from lurkers who are forced to scroll past it every time.

No. 2516126


No. 2516133


No. 2516134

>>2516123
Exactly, lets take that as a lesson.

No. 2516138

>>2516123
I agree but i feel like nearly every thread is gonna spark a debate if threadpic is ugly or not

No. 2516165

>>2516123
This will just cause anons to screech and argue about whether he’s good looking enough or not kek.

No. 2516215

File: 1746708157652.jpeg (53.31 KB, 677x453, IMG_6101.jpeg)

>>2516138
>>2516165
Then I propose we do a straw poll or such towards the end of the thread. And stick to guidelines of under 25 and full head of hair as a baseline.

No. 2516255

File: 1746711187142.jpg (7.11 KB, 168x299, mogged.jpg)

>>2516215
I propose we use mogging pictures instead.

No. 2516257

>>2516255
Also a good idea.

No. 2516260

>>2515879
>That or bring back manhunt or make bully 2
BASED.

No. 2516343

>>2512125
they were always pretty boys and that's a fact. better in motion frankly, they were never really photogenic.(defending ugly men)

No. 2516494

File: 1746726137259.png (4.65 MB, 2500x2772, ladyerectiledysfunction.png)

>r/ladyboners
I know reddit women are the most mentally cucked women out there, but they can't be serious with this shit, right?

No. 2516579

>>2516494
The actually pretty boys posted to that sub always get barely any attention it's hilarious

No. 2516666

>>2516494
Ladyboners made me question if I was lesbian because none of these are doing it for me.

No. 2516721

Another part of the psyop that I hate is "I care about his humor the most!" being the only acceptable answer when a woman is asked for her type. Today I was shopping at Ikea and suddenly a group of 30+yo (not rounding up, they really were well into proper adult age) play that old retarded preteen game of who dares to yell "Penis!" the loudest…and of course they were accompanied by one sad giggling pickme. The only humor they know is sex jokes, "my wife makes me want to die"-jokes and burping/farting.
Attractive guys are actually so much more funny.

No. 2516722

>>2512675
Considering the popularity of "female character deaths compilation" videos, and the fact the average moid is a rapeape, I really don't think that's the actual reason.

No. 2516730

File: 1746732859287.webm (2.03 MB, 640x360, based.webm)

Forever my queen… Look at this pathetic attention-seeking (probably half-gay) gymlet repeatedly try and fail to get her approval, hope he cried himself to sleep over his face being considered ugly kek

No. 2516746

>>2516343
They look like the average frat faggot.
>>2516494
>geriatric whose hair is falling off
>geriatric
>70 year old bald with beard demon
>living ballsack
>geriatric
>70 year old
So why do incels exist again? Males can just be impotent from old age, bald, and fat and still women will want them. No wonder moids say a man’s life begins after 30 and be peaks at 50. Women just playing along left and right.

No. 2516747

>>2516494
So women are expected to like these wrinkled poorly groomed uncles who look like they did nothing but sleep around, drink, and party in their youth and now have ruined skin, poor sperm quality, and probably a bunch of STDs and are going to go bald (or are already bald like Gramps on the left). Meanwhile Reddit moids thirst after barely 18 year old women with cosmetic surgery, airbrushed skin, endless beauty routines, and coordinated lingerie. But they still nitpick women to death for not looking like AI. Get me off of this planet right now.

No. 2516750

>>2516494
>>2516579
This sub is either moderated very strictly by a wurstie, or the posters are troons with wishful thinking kek

No. 2516803

>>2516730
Kekkk, I love her so much. Interesting how he admitted to having a small dick.

No. 2516808

>>2516666
I am lesbian and I'm glad I am, because woof… Are straight women this down bad? They're all hideous. Men would never ever post women past 35 and compliment her this much.

No. 2516824

>>2516808
>Men would never ever post women past 35 and compliment her this much
Pickme women will always respond to this with "well women are not as shallow as men so they're attracted to something more than just youth!"

No. 2516851

>>2516824
a pickme probably wouldn't say "women are less shallow than men" because that makes women sound better, she'd probably try to do mental gymnastics and say men and women are attracted to different things therefor ugly ass moids are actually desirable or something

No. 2516917

>>2516851
Even when women completely kowtow and only simp over the most hideous walled beasts, it’s still not good enough for them. Even in that situation women are still evil and shallow in their mind. “They only like them because they’re rich celebrities REEEEEEE HYPERGAMY” men and their ball handlers genuinely believe that unless a woman will give sex to a homeless 60 year old neanderthal for nothing in return she is a horrible gold digger with too high standards.

No. 2516921

Update they are poly now? I wonder if that means that she is going to get a cute guy finally..

>>2513038

No. 2516931

>>2513356
Seeing him in that romcom with Chris Evans and Dakota Johnson… you know what, the Evans fangirls got something right, he may be bland but he mogs a fucking bland to uggo like Pedro and his unkempt perpetually dirty look

No. 2516964

>>2516808
>are straight women this down bad
Yes.

No. 2516998

File: 1746742592070.jpg (727.11 KB, 1080x1866, Screenshot_20250509_001423.jpg)

Imagine an equally unattractive woman posting this

No. 2517023

>>2516494
That sub must be nothing but old women married to hideous geeky men who play dnd in the weekends and have a collection of funkopops. This is the taste of a woman who has low self esteem but still dreams for better life away from her soon to be troonsbian skinwalker redditor husband. Its why they choose these ugly but rich and famous scrotes. Its an approachable and mildly realistic way to escape their miserable lives.

No. 2517028

>>2516998
>202 upvotes
Jesus Christ. He simultaneously looks greasy and dry as hell. Also kek at him putting the qualifier of “pretty” for his partner-to-be.

No. 2517030

>>2516998
>I'm so smol and depwessed and lonely, look at me cuddling my cat teehee
Sex offender in waiting.

No. 2517041

>>2516494
r/ladyboners was always a garbage can. All the posters sound like a parody of female stereotypes. "Hear me out… Scrotehair Bingle is a dreamboat!! [Heart eyes emoji]". They have GOT to all be bots.

No. 2517049

File: 1746746550829.jpg (54.36 KB, 1200x632, 1000002764.jpg)

>>2516494
Ok so this is something that may be too niche and I hope I make sense. But I noticed this subgenre of ugly man psyoping or should I call it ugly men psyop WITHIN a ugly men psyop where they will only allow walled men but they will still end up discriminating against the rare walled men that actually look or looked put together by only posting the ugly ones. So it turns into this circle withing a circle where only the ugliest and plain toast walled men are allowed to be posted or praised.


For example here is a picture of Keannu Reeves when he used to be 40, he still looked good back then despite being walled yet you would never see a picture like that getting posted to those type of sub reddit because it's ugly men central. The ugly male psyop goes so deep that it's not just about age but about appearance too so even the rare walled moids who dont look walled dont get posted.

No. 2517061

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>>2516998
KEKKK nona, maybe this belongs in the Reddit hate thread but I thought the whole post was hilarious. All this dooming over being single and he won’t date a woman on or around the same level as him physically. The comments are all kissing his ass too! “You have a nice smile,” “Jared Padalecki vibes” etc. Pathetic.

No. 2517070

>>2516998
>>2517061
>ugly disabled ratty looking scrote
>all we know about the kind of women he wants is that she has to be PRETTY, no talks about her personality, hobbies, achievements or what he can do for her
>only leaves his gooncave for the chance of meeting a PRETTY woman he can fuck, i mean have a monogamous lovely relationship
>sits there like a loser expecting a stacy to approach his autistic ugly ass
it pisses me off so much when entitled moids get coddled. He could settle with an ugly ratty fatty like him(and the fatty would still probably mog him anyways) but no, he wants stacy without making any effort. Literally asking for a pretty woman to fall from the sky onto his lap like in haremshit anime.

No. 2517073

>>2516998
>i can be mutually attracted to
Kek, so he HAS had several chances with women before. He’s just pissed that models aren’t throwing themselves at his doorstep

No. 2517075

>>2517023
11/10 perfect analysis nona

No. 2517079

>>2517049
He's 40 here? Damn, he looks like today's 23 year old moids.
>>2517061
>nice smile
He's meant to be smiling?

No. 2517082

>>2516579
They get removed even if rules haven't been broken

No. 2517085

>>2517082
I dont have a reddit can someone check if the mod is a troon.

No. 2517088

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>>2516998
Can you imagine the retard screeching if even an attractive woman said something like this on Reddit of all places.

No. 2517090

>>2517088
He reminds me of elliot roger. Elliot also used to go to parties and expect a gigastacy to pick him KEK. These men are fucking delusional.

No. 2517104

>>2517088
I like how men pretend "settling" is even possible for them. Having any woman in their lives is automatically a net benefit for them. Only women can settle.

No. 2517111

>>2517088
Rules for thee, but not for me!!
Moids harrass women constantly with the whole ‘lOWEr YoUr sTANdards or else you’ll die alone’ bs. Like that’s even a threat kek. I’d rather be alone then be chained to a lazy, greasy, balding, barely human-looking uggo + 0 benefits.

No. 2517116

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>>2517085
Well, of course

No. 2517119

>>2517116
holy shit lol is he a molested hsts or is he a power hungry incel?

No. 2517134

>>2517090
I still remember there was that girl he was obsessed over (from MIDDLE SCHOOL) that he ranted about in his manifesto, and when they asked her about it she was like “I barely knew him” kek

No. 2517142

>>2517134
Saw this on the front page and this reminds me of Audrey Hale (the lesbian tif shooter) who killed those kids over the girls in her middle school basketball team. Literally stalked them and pulled up to their parties uninvited and freaked them out. What is it with these incels (lescdl in this case) and obsessing over their middle school crushes? Is it a type of pedophilia?

No. 2517309

>>2517090
At least Elliot was better looking

No. 2517414

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>>2517116
>>2516494
Decided to browse the top posts of all time on that subreddit and holy shit, the psyop is so real. 10-11 years ago, the top posts were fandom-famous cuties (Jensen Ackles, the various generic Marvel moids, etc.) and random hot models (cute young Native guys with long hair, random young Asian models/actors, etc. In the past 10 years or so, however, literally all of the top posts that aren't virtue-signaling reddit crap like Peter Dinklage (lol) are about muh AGED LIKE A FINE WINE walled scrotes. Not even mid-40s walled, like actual geriatric scrotes. Picrel is from the top posts of ALL TIME. We used to have standards.

No. 2517444

>>2517414
Not a single guy with a decent hairline.

No. 2517485

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>>2517414
Sorry nonnie but JDM and James MacAvoy are really sexy. JDM is rugged and tall and has a deep voice and rides motorbikes, and MacAvoy was a heart throb from Atonement. The others I agree are ugly moids but I do see and feel the sex appeal with these two men, and find it hard to consider them "ugly" in the eyes of a psyop. I will admit MacAvoy looked better when he was younger but I think he's aged ok, considering he's scottish and they usually age like utter shit.(defending ugly men)

No. 2517498

>>2517485
Old man shilling is part of the psyop

No. 2517500

>>2517485
I agree with you, but this is not the venue for this truth. But when you think about it, a lot of the younger scrotes shilled as hot honestly offend me more than the older ones. It's mainly because they have HORRID phenotypes. At least a lot of the older scrotes were hot at one point. The younger rat like reanimated corpses were clapped right out the gate. I feel like this is why the old scrote psyop works so well, especially in the modern day. It makes you forget that the occasional handsome older man is the exception, not the rule.

No. 2517514

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>>2517500
>At least a lot of the older scrotes were hot at one point.
even this guy? i don't know anon, "a lot" is a stretch. probably around two or so but still, why don't people post their younger pics then?

No. 2517519

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>>2517514
…I mean i think he looks decent in this picture.

No. 2517524

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>>2517519
guess i'll never understand. he looked pugfaced and somehow still oldish even when young. there's just something off with his eyes and lips

No. 2517528

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I have been thinking about the differences between women who like unconvetional men vs men who like ''unconventional'' women. For starters, when men say they like unconventional traits in women, they almost always mean obviously conventional attractive women with exaggerated body parts that are already considered desireable in women(tits, ass, legs). However, those ''vanilla'' men, do share traits with men who genuinely have a fetish for unconventional women(think deathfat tier women), and its that their fetish is a way to humilliate, control and knock women down a peg.

Think about it, a lot of women with big tits(especially in anime) are considered ''fat'' and therefore ''unconventional''. Why is that? Men are the ones that created small boob insecurity in women because they fetishize boobs so much. The whole boob implant industry exists because of these insecurities. Women dont need big boobs, its purely cosmetic. So why is it that when women get big tits(natural or implants) they get humilliated, called fat and compared to farm animals like cows? obviously, its because the male mating strategy is centered on humilliating and demeaning women until they are forced to comply with their beauty standards, and then, so these women dont attain power over men(and therefore exclude ugly low quality men from their dating pool) these women are attacked AGAIN and compared to farm animals like cows. I lost count of the amount of times i have seen women's breasts get called udders by coomers, or big titty anime girls being put in cow bikinis. They do the same thing feeders do but on a smaller scale, feeders love seeing women grow bigger and more helpless, they like the idea of women's desireable traits(boobs, ass legs) growing to the point they are barely recognizable anymore. Their sexuality is one and the same, the only difference is the degree of sadism involved.

This doesnt apply only to big breated or thick women, flat women are constantly targetted by coomers to the point where there is a whole fetish called ''boob envy'' where flat girls are shown to be jealous of big breasted women. This applies to basically every unconventional trait in women, men will only fetishize it as a way to humilliate women and make them feel superior in comparison. They like the idea of women being insecure and vulnerable but still beautiful. There is not a single trait in women that doesnt get fetishized by moids and turned into an insecurity.

Now think about how unconventional taste in men develops in women. Its always as a way to uplift the ugly moid while putting down conventionally attractive men and the women who like them. I have lost count of the amount of times fatfag women claim fatties are better than bishies because they have ''meat in their bodies, look like actually mature men, dont look like 'sickly' teenage womanly skeletons''. You never see those women put their actual lardasses in cow print bikinis, they are never bullied by other male characters for being 'fat', they are not depicted as having insecurities, they are depicted as ''cooler'' and more ''manly'' than the conventionally attractive male characters. They not only shit on the attractive men, but also on the women who dont have corrupted pickme taste. Men are never bullied for liking conventionally attractive women, but women are always being nagged by pickmes for liking sexy bishies instead of ''realistic'' ugly moids. The use of misogynistic language to denote that attractive men arent ''manly'' enough and women who like them must be lesbians is also important in the argument of the pickme nlog fatfag. Ask a fatfag pickme to explain why fatties or other ugly traits in men are ''attractive'' without putting down conventionally attractive men and they will explode. They are incapable of explaining why they like ugly men instead of conventionally attractive ones with putting down attractive men or women because their taste steems from low self esteem and misogyny and a false sense of supperiority over normal women(nlogism). Its why women take it so personally when you shit on the ugly moids they like, because they see it as a reflection of themselves and their ideals. When you tell a pickme that their objectively ugly husbando or bf is fat and ugly, they see red because to them their husbando/bf is superior to those ''ugly sickly unmanly bishies/hot men'' and them being considered ugly/fat means they dont have a false sense of superiority anymore. Its why women even here constantly sperg about how beaty in men is subjective and you are actually boolin THEM for shitting on those traits in men. It always goes back to THEM and not the moids themselves because they just see it as an extention of themselves. Its pathetic and its why i will never support the ''let women like whatever they like you booly!!!!'' narrative, because it always mean putting down attractive men and women they like them down in favour of ugly moids and their pickmes.

No. 2517530

>>2517514
>those nasolabial folds
topkek anon is being blinded by the personality(in this case fake because its an actor scrote) psyop again, poor nonny.

No. 2517548

>>2517514
he genuinely looks deformed, what a weird skull shape and his eyes are sinking into his skull. he looks like a 50 year old spanish lesbian nana.

No. 2517555

>>2517500
AYRT and yeah I understand you anon, just hate seeing the few sexy men I adore desecrated in this way and lumped in with genuinely ugly men like >>2517514

No. 2517565

>>2517514
No, not this guy, nobody gave af about him until ump was already in full force

No. 2517570

>>2517414
I'm trying to look at the younger pics of these guys but..most of them were sort of mid at best even back then, sorry nonas. I guess Freddie used to look okay.

No. 2517590

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>>2517528
>Fat characters
>All have slight “chub” if you can even call it that or just have big breats, butts, and thighs.

The fact that none of them are actually fat is so harrowing. I don’t expect coomers or anime fags to have realistic standards but good god. Meanwhile, I watch women scramble to defend ugly, fat, or old moids no problem. What circle of hell is this

No. 2517596

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>>2516579

Ok but who the fuck is using this sub cause I posted a famous slightly alt musician when he was in his prime that most women find attractive and was/is being teased for being a prettyboy and my post fluctuateed between 1 to negative up votes

No. 2517600

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>>2517596
>Actually attractive men are downvoted
>who the fuck is using this sub

I think you already know the answer.

No. 2517610

>>2517596
Its modded by a literal failmail(tranny)

No. 2517620

>>2517524
If it makes you feel any better i think he looks horrid in this picture and all of his recent pictures. But somehow that particular picture is the worst i've ever seen Pedro Pascal, it strangely reminds me of the music video where Tyler the Creator is in white face.

No. 2517626

>>2516106
Obviously the dysgenic creature on the right is far uglier like most current hollywood scrotes, but Heston looks sooo old there, I would have guessed 45 at least. Apparently men did not age well back then either.

>>2516494
I will never not believe it's moids posting this shit. Even Reddit women couldn't find these men attractive.

>>2516721
I don't get the 'men have to be funny' thing either. Most men are not funny and even if they were, why would that be even in your top 20 criteria for a partner? There are a million things more important in a relationship than whether a guy is good at making jokes. I have to assume women say this because they realize their boyfriends/exes have no actual redeeming qualities so they fish around for some undisprovable compliment they can give the moid to justify dating him. Humor is subjective so people just have to believe them that they find their moid funny, unlike other qualities like being attractive, smart, kind, successful, etc. that you either have or don't. Moids don't feel threatened by that answer either because they all (incorrectly 95% of the time) think they're funny.

>>2516998
That cat looks horrified kek

No. 2517642

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>>2517596
I wish you could still sort by controversial

>>2517600
simonona?

No. 2517644

>>2517642
Holy MOG

No. 2517649

>>2517642
left is more attractive because he is more babyfaced and youthful looking, its just unfortunate he has crows feet already.(ban evading)

No. 2517656

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>>2517644
I have more

No. 2517658

>>2517656
men will just use this as an excuse to say the mom was dysgenic and ruined the dads genes

No. 2517660

>>2517600
why did you use cry of fear fanart itt
>>2517642
i would never. also ew

No. 2517661

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>>2517649
damn bitch love yourself

No. 2517663

>>2517649
bait. Left one looks older, moids become pudgier with age.

No. 2517665

>>2517661
shotas>haggots
he just needs some botox and accutane(bait)

No. 2517667

>>2517665
Your bait is terrible, try harder. If you are going to bait with that old trick at least learn what words mean.

No. 2517672

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Oof

No. 2517683

>>2517672
Is that not a child

No. 2517684

>>2517683
anon, most people born in the 00s are at least 18 now… we are ancient

No. 2517693

>>2517667
shut the fuck up you boring twat(infighting)

No. 2517702

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Presented without a comment
>>2517672
This has to be a tif

No. 2517711

>>2517702
Kek did the OP reply to himself?

No. 2517712

>>2517711
No, that's what it looks when you reply to the OP post.

No. 2517729

>>2517642
He would look exactly like his grandpa if he hadn’t of been raised on porn and Cheetos.

No. 2517731

>>2516215
I think we should be allowed to go up to 30. Maybe I’m just an oldfag kek, it’s rare that men don’t look like shit after 25 but there are rare exceptions.

No. 2517732

>>2517731
This is about looks nonny, we are not going to lower our standards and psyop ourselves into finding men in their 30s hot because you feel uncomfortable with young men.

No. 2517743

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>>2517626
>but Heston looks sooo old there
I think he looked his age tbh, I don't think he looked older than modern 35 year olds. Looking rugged is not the same as "modern" old male look, like balding and bloating which makes the dysgenic modern male face even more soy looking than it was before

No. 2517763

>>2517743
I am in my 30s and most of the 35 year olds I know do not look like that. My dad looked similar to that when he was in his late 40s. I legitimately never would have guessed that man is only a couple years older than me. It may well be because of the higher male T levels back then, since testosterone does age men a lot. I would be really concerned seeing wrinkles like that on a moid in his 30s. 'Rugged' just means weathered, aka aged.

>>2517649
This on the other hand is an insane take and has to be bait.

No. 2517776

>>2517763
I would never compare female 30s to male 30s kek, men will always look older than women, I'm 29 and I also think he looks much older than me. But so many modern men around my age (27-35) also seem much older than they should, which combined with their effeminate/low test physique makes them look way worse than a well developed and masculine man from the 50s/60s. I would choose the later because even modern twinks who look good in their early 20s will hit the wall and twink death, and they won't age as well as more classic "chads", and I would like a guy who still looks good when we're both in our 40s etc.

No. 2517787

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>>2517485
Even if these men were handsome, it would be universally true that they would have been more handsome when they were younger. But, because of the psyop that puts a defcon 1 priority on pampering ugly old men's feelings, pickmes on reddit decide to make virtue-signalling posts about how ackshually James McAvoy looks better with crows feet, a receding hairline, and a flabby beer gut!!! What I'm saying is that convincing women that old, walled men are better looking than their fit, virile young counterparts is a huge part of the psyop.

Picrel is a young JDM - per se more attractive by any metric than the pic you posted. Would you really want a graying, stubbly pube beard and massive nasiolabial folds and jowls up in your face while kissing JDM, or the soft lips and smooth, clear cheeks in picrel? Be real.

No. 2517803

>>2517702
Kek, the retarded moid assumption that the only traits in the ancient world that would have been desirable were strength and size. Lean, trim people are much more swift and agile, which obviously confers much greater advantages than mere strength. And people from cultures that survive primarily off the land might have a little bit of muscle but are primarily lean and lanky from lots of running and climbing. But moids don't want to hear that because they know that running is harder than sitting on their asses in an air-conditioned gym lifting the same weight for 45 minutes.

No. 2517932

>>2517732
It’s just gonna be the same gay Korean twink every week then. Not all of us are zoomers. 20-35 is a fair age range.

No. 2517952

>>2517932
NTA but I'm a millennial and still think men in their 30s are hideous, it's not a zoomer opinion. 35 is especially pushing it, maybe 30 at most.

No. 2517966

>>2517485
Is this pic AI? I'm also a jdm fag btw

No. 2518196

>>2517672
>>2517661
>>2513896
Honestly think the black and white low quality photos (shows less fine details), appealing facial expressions, and nice outfits do a lot of heavy lifting to make vintage moids look so much better than modern moids. Men today dress like shit, make retarded expressions, don't take care of their bodies, don't provide for their families or honorably die in wars. Modern men are also addicted to porn which oozes out of their every orifice. Men have always aged horribly due to their biology, but adding all these other factors onto their inferior XY and we get to where we are today.

No. 2518536

>>2517776
Yes I know, I'm saying 35 year old men I know look nothing like that. My dad looked like that when he was around 48-49 in my college graduation photos, I don't know what else to tell you nonna. 30-something year old women look much younger than 30-something year old men, but 30-something year old men should not look that old. I know we laugh at how zoomer men have eaten so many microplastics or estrogens in the water that many of them are balding and bloated in their 20s, but it's still not actually normal for mid-30s men to look like my dad when I was in college. I don't live in the US so I think I'm not used to male physiques being all that fat at this age either, his physique looks normal-to-bulky to me.

I mean I see plenty of hideous programmer looking soyboy moids around, but the ones who aren't hideous and are under 40 look much much younger than him. It may be because of testosterone, it may be due to environmental conditions at that time, but I do think many actors in the 50s-70s (including this one) looked way older than their age, at least by modern standards. He has decent bone structure but very deep wrinkles and a really big head which tends to happen with aging in men, as well as a fairly advanced hairline and thin hair.

>even modern twinks who look good in their early 20s will hit the wall and twink death

I think it depends what you mean. Many men with more feminine/androgynous faces actually age better than 'chads' with very masculinized faces, but it really depends on the specific facial structure and also their build, how fit they are, etc. A lot of the moids that look the best in later life imo are ones with distinctive bone structure, larger non-hunter eyes, fuller lips, and slimmer faces, but a square or pronounced jaw. The extremes of very 'cute' young moids and very 'chad' looking young moids both seem to age badly in most cases. The chads experience too much skull expansion and get tiny beady eyes while the 'cute' moids look bloated and jowly and lose their bone structure.

>>2517803
Lean and lanky athletic types have plenty of muscle, it's just not large-looking muscle. Hypertrophy training is different than both powerlifting-type strength training and the sorts of calisthenics, cardio-based exercise etc. that give rise to that lanky lean body type mainly in that it targets muscle size over strength AND agility. Moids are retarded if they think large muscle size is generally indicative of how fit men are or how well they can 'protect' women or whatever, they are obsessed with having large muscles because they show even through clothes and draw attention while most fit athletic men look pretty normal in clothing and aren't bursting out of their shirt. It's just so they can preen and show themselves off more on a daily basis, mostly to other men. Women will see a truly fit guy's body when they're being intimate, the moid doesn't need to constantly be showing off his roid muscles to other moids.

>>2518196
I agree the photos and styling do a lot of the heavy lifting but I also think there are hormonal issues in men today, possibly caused by food, environmental toxins, etc. and also modern men are usually less fit and leanness usually makes male faces more attractive. Even 'thin' moids these days will often be doughy whereas back then there was a strong emphasis on physical education for young high school/college aged moids. Many of them went through military training. Even in my parents' generation the government made all the men go to the army for 2-3 years (European country) which they don't anymore, so they got a head-start of having to work out daily for at least 2-3 years and some of them would keep up those habits. The retarded facial expressions, hairstyles and clothing also make a huge difference though, moids these days are so undignified. And I truly believe coomerism makes moids ugly and bald.

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>>2518536
>his physique looks normal-to-bulky to me
Nona clearly hasn't seen how Heston lives rent free in /fit/cels' heads and how they post about him basically every week and lament how the male physique degraded over the years because Heston moggs all modern gymcels without even lifting weights but with stuff like swimming, running and playing tennis, and also being just genetically huge (super wide shoulders and 6'3/190 cm tall)

No. 2518567

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>>2518560
It's over

No. 2518603

>>2514318
Kek, I saw this and thought of this thread too.
>male
>chinese
>physically demanding job
>still fat
How? Why? And how come are they being cheered on? Asians were supposed to be better than that.

No. 2518608

>>2517414
wow you know these heffas are fat, white and only wear ugly ass graphic fandom shirts and 50/50 poly with who they're thirsting after

No. 2518625

>>2518560
>Nona clearly hasn't seen how Heston lives rent free in /fit/cels' heads and how they post about him basically every week and lament how the male physique degraded over the years
I used to see this shit on r/all the time but they are probably troons now

No. 2518638

>>2518560
AYRT and it's true he has a large frame, I meant more just like how muscular/fat/thin he is. Like he's on the fat/muscular side of average. I do think men back then tended to look fitter without roids, but I think it's just because they did more exercise on a regular basis and ate less crap.

>>2518567
Kek he's making his shoulders look narrower with the overly bulky traps. I have no idea why gym moids want this hunchback of notre dame look, it's very unappealing.

>>2518608
The sub is run by moids nonna.

No. 2518665

>>2518567
men in the past had bigger deltoids because the deltoid muscle is highly sensitive to testosterone and men back then had higher T.

also contrary to popular belief, normal-high testosterone stabilizes mens moods and makes them less neurotic. men back then were calmer and had more self control.
nowadays men have low T so they are super neurotic, mentally unstable and inappropriately aggressive. add porn addiction on top of that which fucks with hormone levels and releases prolactin, and it makes modern moids even more unstable and emotionally volatile. its why incels are so aggressive and volatile despite looking like puffy faced sois.

No. 2518671

File: 1746839264604.gif (2.87 MB, 408x306, 1000030428.gif)

>>2518638
What are your thoughts on jailbait Heston anon (he was 17 here)…
>>2518665
Funny how I felt that that was always the case without knowing the science behind it. There's no way to find a good moid unless he was raised somewhere in the mountains, on homegrown food and without internet access I guess

No. 2518679

>>2518608
why do you have to insult women all the time when the topic is ugly moids

No. 2518683

>>2518671
he isnt my type, but i can recognize hes handsome. you can tell from his facial bones and leanness that he had very high testosterone.
also, my older sister was a big fan of his and wrote to him many years ago when he was still alive, and he sent her the sweetest letter back thanking her for her support.

No. 2518691

File: 1746840185574.jpg (Spoiler Image,1.08 MB, 1080x3354, Collage_20250510_032136.jpg)

Andor spoilers
The actress is with these two guys in Andor. Somehow the younger one might be even worse looking in the show

No. 2518693

>>2489515
Both him and his wife are cows. Rose was a stripper/sugar baby and Brett was a bouncer/escort when they met, he pimped her out. Recently, he hit her and got charged but they’re back to pretending they’re a big happy family.

No. 2518702

>>2518683
>my older sister was a big fan of his and wrote to him many years ago when he was still alive, and he sent her the sweetest letter back thanking her for her support
Wow that's actually amazing. I'm happy for her, and I totally didn't expect to see a story related to him in a place like this, since he died in like 2008
I like the fact he was married to one woman for over 60 years until his death and actually seemed like a decent human

No. 2518705

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>>2518693
>Man who's visibly forcing his wife to suck his PP in the threadpic because he's """providing""" is a domestic abuser

No. 2518706

>>2518693
this is so depressing. why do black women even bother dating white men who are just going to act like abusive black scrotes anyway.

No. 2518712

>>2518702
yes it pretty much made her year lol. he came across very gentlemanly and he also had his assistant send her a signed photo too which she still has framed in her house lol. like i said i never knew much about him aside from what my sister told me, but it is indeed lovely that he stayed married to the same woman so long.

No. 2518735

>>2518706
Low self esteem is unfortunately common for many women in the community due to mass negging

No. 2518765

>>2518671
AYRT and I think he had pretty good facial bone structure in general (not my type but conventionally attractive), but I would have guessed that was a man in his 20s. They really did age faster back then.

>>2518693
This couple has probably the worst tiktok content I've ever seen so I'm not surprised. The tiktok itself seems like it's just him pimping her out for the audience. I still feel sorry for her even if she is cowish, the moid is horrifying.

No. 2518772

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>>2518691
Also, someone this offensively ugly (it's another character in Andor) shouldn't be allowed to leave the house without a mask on let alone be an actor

No. 2518786

>>2518772
I dunno. You still need monsters for horror movies

No. 2518792

>>2518683
That's actually super sweet.

No. 2518795

File: 1746845218514.gif (8.82 MB, 540x450, 1000030421.gif)

>>2518765
Ok nonas upon repeated examination I admit he looked older than his age kek, I just looked past that because I found him beautiful, like a living statue, especially in Ben Hur. Lucky are those for whom he modeled as an art model before he became a fulltime actor. I like pretty twinks but I think I would still choose him. I think the "novelty" of it plays a role too, because I never saw a (young) man like him irl or on social media, meanwhile twinks are all over the internet. That type of a male died out I guess

No. 2518800

>>2518795
Heston, to me, was one of the few moids who looked okay into middle-age. He had that kind of handsome, chiseled bone structure and style that isn't actually moid speak for 'disgusting roid pig who looks like your friend's alcoholic dad'. Very classically handsome. You're right in that you don't see that kind of face in film any more…

No. 2518814

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>>2518795
>jaw looks normal again in anon's gif, instead of massive
Yeah he just sticks out his lower jaw whenever there's a close shot and stopped doing it as he aged and lost facial volume. So like the male sky ferreira (sucking in cheekbones constantly). I was trying to make sense of how someone's bone structure could possibly change so much from youth to adulthood and it made no sense until I looked at more images

No. 2518815

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>>2518814
Samefag gurning decreases

No. 2518816

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>>2518815
samefag gone

No. 2518818

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>>2518814
Maybe he just struggled with TMJ kek

No. 2518827

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>>2518818
Idts he totally resembles >>2518816 in that gif more than this clever angle >>2518671

He looks better with his own chin and jawline anyways and did have good shoulders but a lot of that seems like angles too. Usually fitcels are sperging about the degradation of mr. world but here he is the 1950sboo floodpost and it's typical overbuilt trapezius muscles Idk any of the fitcel phrases, just like present day. I prefer a cute face like picrel/real heston over random wider features. I think a lot of these guys were trying to resemble typical labourer moids who had no interest in acting or showing off to an audience

No. 2518828

>>2518800
agreed

No. 2518837

>>2518800
I think you do sometimes, in Europeans or some North African/Turkish moids or whatever (I have an old moid friend who's a white Tunisian who has very similar facial structure to this and he's in his 40s, he used to date my really hot friend) but sadly a lot of them start balding young. Whatever hormonal issues are happening in North America seem to prevent the leanness that is required for this kind of chiseled look in American moids and a lot of them age really bloated and blobby looking facially, plus a lot of them are fat and it seems like very few moids want to be clean shaven anymore. I have an uncle with that kind of facial structure too and he stayed very fit his whole life but also unfortunately started balding in his early/mid 40s. Seems like you often have to pick either balding or indistinct, soy-looking facial structure (or both) unless you're talking about East/SE Asians.

>>2518827
The overbuilt traps are so disgusting every time, they must see it looks bad surely

No. 2518867

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>>2518795
Arno Breker traced this

No. 2518871

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>>2518867
Is this it again? It looks weird

No. 2518872

>>2518867
Lips way too thin, brow way too neanderthal-y

No. 2518875

>>2518867
>>2518871
I feel like this very robust Caucasian skull type is missing in 99% of modern men, but used to be very common until like 50 years ago. You still find it occasionally in Baltic-Germans and European-adjacent groups like Pashtun Afghans. Did WW2 mostly kill it off in the west or something? Sad.

No. 2518878

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>>2518827
>>2518871
>>2518867
Not into Nazism but I like their male imagery tbh. Men should aspire to be strong and fit and lean, instead of flabby, cheeto addicted gooners.

No. 2518879

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>>2518827
He was like the walking giga chad meme

No. 2518881

>>2518875
The skull is still there it's just under a layer of fat. Jaw underdevelopment is why most modern people have less robust looking skulls, but this is due to diet, blocked sinuses etc.

No. 2518882

>>2518875
Gracilization/bone loss. Men are literally become more soi-fied every generation. They're turning into the gay kpop aliens except obese, pink and sweaty (in the US).

No. 2519054

>>2518878
perfect shoulder-waist ratio. i never see men like this, even in the gym. they all look like planks of wood

No. 2519249

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what the fuck, on my lolcor????

No. 2519265

>>2519249
are you guys still camping out in random threads to post stuff here? isn't there plenty of content outside the site

No. 2519266

>>2519249
What are you reacting to? The show was awful and it was a relief when his character died bc he did a really good job playing a micro-dosing divorced new age moid and it grossed me out. His new look is revealed after he leaves hi wife for a woman closer to his daughter's age and this is what the writers believe our simple chimp brains will perceive as "silver fox", bc they keep repeating that. You know, like a psy-op

No. 2519448

>>2518875
Caucasians men’s taste in women shifted towards neoteny resulting in a boom of chuddies

No. 2519652

>>2519448
I have a neotenous face and no fucking man talks to me

No. 2519679

>>2519652
Trust me you’re not missing much. Being hit on by random 50 year old bog bodies and a mutant freak with one eye a centimeter closer to the center of his face than the other who still approached you despite thinking you’re 17 isn’t an enviable experience. Moids audacity has to be their worst trait. They deserve nothing. Worse than nothing, even. They deserve nothing but endless suffering every waking moment and they should have this drilled into their head from the moment they are born.

No. 2519738

Anons who are in their late 20s and older—do you all typically date younger? I was trying to date my age and older but the moids are so atrociously hideous that I’d rather try forgo a long term relationship with someone my own age and find a younger guy who wants a sex teacher or something. I feel so disgusted whenever I see couples my age and the guy is already leather-faced and balding with a dad bod while the woman looks like a beauty influencer.

No. 2519789

>>2518878
He's a bit brutish looking, but damn he is hot. German moids should return to that, not the nazism, but the athleticism and just go outside touch grass

No. 2519799

>>2518878
The fuck are those brows, ew.

No. 2519835

>>2519738
I didn’t intend on dating younger and it kinda happened, but it’s been surprisingly chill. Just make sure you vet them well first(but that goes for any age moid you date tbh) Its also not that hard to find younger moids to date since a lot of them jump at the chance to date an older woman kek

No. 2519956

>>2519799
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that dude is ugly

No. 2519983

>>2519956
I also think he's hideous. He does have a good figure though, too bad about the face only a mother could love

No. 2520128

>>2519835
Any tips for vetting them? I want to date younger but I feel all of them are brainrotted zoomers kek

No. 2520161

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No. 2520165

>>2520161
me too unfortunately, and then I'd kill him while he slept for the good of humanity

No. 2520261

>>2520161
Notice the weirdly desperate aura that always emanates from from posts like these. It's one thing to find haggots attractive but these uggmaidens cannot express it without making a spectacle of how "feral" they make them, not unlike stunted virgins and gendies. Always makes me think of polys kek.
>>2520165
Keep your embarrassing confessions to yourself please, this is the UMP thread.

No. 2520267

>>2519835
would i have a chance as older but inexperienced?

No. 2520371

>>2516106 sorry this is an older post but are you guys serious? The left looks so old and walled for a 35 year old, that’d be a hot 40+ year old but.. yikes. Cera’s skin looks excellent in comparison, he’s hideous but Heston looks gnarly there, sorry. Those wrinkles are so sad.

No. 2520376

>>2520371
I’d rather have a good looking guy that’s aged badly. If a guys fugly it doesn’t matter how well he ages. He could look 25 at 60 and he’d still be fucking ugly. A man aging badly indicates he’s lived a full life, travelled and worked hard instead of sitting around playing vidya indoors.

No. 2520377

>>2520261
I don't get why they need to act like that when getting a senior citizen would be so easy.

No. 2520671

>>2520371
Lol nonna I already reacted to that saying he looks late 40s there and it started a whole argument. I agree with you though.

>>2520376
The post was comparing the 2 men at 35 as if Cera had aged worse though, except he's clearly aged better despite being hideous from the beginning. Otherwise why would their ages even need to be mentioned?

No. 2520696

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>>2520671
Who the fuck cares how well ugly people age? It’s like saying “wow look how long it took for this piece of literal human excretement to go mouldy? It’s much better than the delicious 5 star meal”
I am getting old myself and I genuinely don’t care if a man has a few crows feet, I just want some actually handsome men instead of deformed anorexic sewer rats or disgusting hobgoblins like this. I think a lot of anons are just disgruntled about how they’ve been treated by pedo scrotes and scorned for turning 25 but this isn’t addressing the root cause of the issue, which is the ugly male psyop. Women are sane and normal and like other people in their age range, we should not aspire to be like men, we should start putting pressure on men not to let themselves age like shit because they’ve been sold a crock of horse shit that they age like “fine wine”. Yes, we don need to acknowledge that all scrotes look better between 18-25, but if they are attractive then they are still attractive when they’re aging. The problem is not the old men, it’s that they’re butt fuck ugly.

No. 2520712

>>2517642
Left has his entire chin and jaw taken out by subpar genetics. what happened

No. 2520738

>>2520696
The person who made the side-by-side and the person who posted the side-by-side care, clearly, since it was a comparison of how well moids age. The geriatric male psyop is part of the ugly male psyop, because hollywood normalizes old males pairing up with young women.

No. 2520751

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>>2520671
Anon it's basically "the dress". Some anons see michael cera as looking walled, some recognize deliberate efforts to age charlton heston and make him appear more "masculine" to the ruddy-skinned everywoman

No. 2520753

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>>2520751
samefag, "the dresS"

No. 2520755

>>2520161
I have no idea how women can get past the wrinkles and the smell of old people. They are disgusting.

No. 2520760

>>2518671
Kinda looks retarded but i cannot tell why. Maybe its the habsburg jaw.

No. 2520764

>>2520759
Do you know where you are? i am not going to coddle the feeling of old moids. Go be a ddlg nymphette coquette somewhere else.

No. 2520773

>>2520759
But somehow you're not embarrassed when anons act like >>2520161

No. 2520774

>>2520764
No one's coddling anything, unless hetero anons plan on having sex with their grandsons friends someday, they'll probably be with an old moid. Jordan peterson has been married for like half a century

No. 2520783

>>2520774
>unless hetero anons plan on having sex with their grandsons friends someday, they'll probably be with an old moid.
NTA but speak for yourself kek. But anyway there's clearly a difference between someone growing old with their spouse and young women around their 20s drooling over men old enough to be their dads/grandads

No. 2520786

>>2520783
I'm just saying that a CCP leader(?) and jordan peterson aren't really part of the psy-op since they aren't being marketed as sexy to young woman. They are famous for much different reasons. A dd/lg fag is a dd/lg fag and a moid who participates in such an act probably does smell

No. 2520788

>>2520774
being in love with the husband you have been with for decades isnt the same as lusting for a random misogynistic christian scrote you dont even know. Thats daddy issues. Also speak for yourself not everyone wants to spend their life being a bangmaiden to some old fart.

No. 2520794

>>2520788
How is that different for jordan peterson? He's just some university professor who talks funny, the women who lust after him are hilarious to me but he's marketed to moids without dads, for the most part

No. 2520800

>>2520794
No one cares, lusting after old men that could be your dad is weird. At least young men are attractive, there is no reason to be attracted to old men except having weird fetishes for corpses and your father not being in the picture. Fuck off back to the ugly man bootlicking thread /ot/>>>532581 . Its funny you are cocksucking petterson so hard considering he constantly denies the misogynistic violence targetting women through history, blames women for incels and has to tell his incel manosphere fanbase to clean their dicks. Pickmes always cocksuck men that would literally never do the same for them, literal cucks.

No. 2520805

>>2520800
Are you bored and trying to create an argument? The only thing I have typed (and wouldn't have bothered if I paid attention to the thread) is that jordan peterson has been married for 40 years and the women who like him already have daddy issues, just like the moids. He and his wife are both old. Now I'm stuck defending this argument I don't care about, in a thread I don't care about

No. 2520811

>>2518878
why does the "master race" looks deformed

>>2517743
i hate his mouthbreathing, 20 IQ expression here. you know he thinks he's soooo hot.

No. 2520841

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>pickme
umm sweaty, being ageist against old men is, like, problematic?? like, go back to tiktok or something.. he's just like a funny little canadian dude dont you know you are a woman and you are going to end up married as a bangmaiden with an oldfart too?? like what do you plan to do, have standards?? bit misandrist much??
>jordan petterson
''childfree women are pathological, ignorant children doomed to isolation and misery. past age 35 women will start to crave children so badly, but by then it will be too late and they'll be doomed to years of medical interventions and assisted reproduction. Also please wash your penis''

No. 2520844

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>>2520811
>i hate his mouthbreathing, 20 IQ expression here. you know he thinks he's soooo hot
This post was written by Messala Severus btw

No. 2520847

>>2520841
NTA but I think she was just saying that there's no psyop pushing young women to find JP attractive (which is true) so he doesn't really belong in this thread (also true) kek. Some deranged anons on the unconventional attractions thread having weird taste notwithstanding. This is the ugly man psyop thread not the 'post random ugly men no one expects you to find attractive' thread.

No. 2520856

>>2520847
Re-read my post, she was defending an old moid that thinks childess women are miserable and old by 35. If you dont understand how being a pickme for that old bastard is part of the psyop then you dont belong her. It really shows how women will bend down and put down women to defend men that would never do the same for them.

No. 2520859

>>2520856
I didn't see her defending him, just saying that he's not part of the UMP, which he's not. It's annoying when this thread gets derailed for the 50th time by people arguing about some old moid literally no one thinks is attractive or shills as attractive to the public.

No. 2520863

>>2520859
>I didn't see her defending him
Because she dirty deleted her posts defending him. Still, it shows how women will defend old men from mean comments online(who the fuck cares if that old faggot gets called ugly?) while those same moids dont see women as anything but agging bangmaidens that must marry and have childrens or else they lose their value. Jordan petterson is literally part of the psyop because he constantly parrots sexist manosphere bullshit.

No. 2520874

>>2520863
I was live-reading the conversation and I didn't notice any deleted posts except your own doubleposts, I think you're just making this up. All your replies are still pointing to posts that are still up as far as I can see. She didn't defend him from being called ugly, she just said he's not part of the Ugly Male Psyop. She's correct, he's not. He is not shilled as attractive, and he does not shill other men as attractive since he's not a hollywood director or producer or video game producer or whatever. If you want to have a political conversation about manosphere moids and tweets you don't like I'm sure there's a thread for that like the Twitter hate thread or something.

Nevermind I just refreshed the thread and I see which post she deleted, it was the one calling an anon embarrassing for saying she has no idea how women can get past the smell of old people, they are disgusting. I also found that post offensive tbh, my mom and grandma don't smell and I love them and don't find them disgusting, but I didn't reply because I assumed she was talking about old men specifically in a romantic context and just unintentionally worded the post offensively. It is embarrassing zoomer generational wars shit to say 'all older people are disgusting and smell' as if you yourself won't one day be an old woman though. I assume the other anon deleted her post because she realized it was a reply to the JP post not meant to be a general statement. She still wasn't 'defending him' kek and he's still not part of the psyop.

No. 2520878

>>2520874
Nta and this is quite oot but there's science behind the "old people smell" and it exists unfortunately and most old people do smell like it.

No. 2520888

Extremely elderly people do have a smell, yes, but 1. Jordan Peterson is the same age as my mom and saying how could someone stand to be around a disgusting old person like my mom did make me have a knee jerk reaction of 'wow what an awful snotty teen must have written that' even though I didn't reply because I knew she was probably talking about dating moids, 2. all of us can hope we will one day be old and 'smell weird' and that won't make us disgusting, hopefully. I think women who fall for the 'old women are disgusting' shit are themselves subject to the UMP without noticing (because older women are rarely depicted in media as worthy, cool or interesting). They're not going to stay young forever but since they are currently young they shit on all older people and view older women as worthless just like moids tell them to. It is cringey.

Women should not be convinced by old creepy geriatric moids to date older moids but young women should not be convinced older women are worthless either, which is another aspect of the UMP. It convinces women we only have worth while we're young and that our worth at some point pretty early in our adulthood totally disappears. Saying 'ew old people smell' implies middle aged men have a good reason to dump their middle aged stinky 'disgusting' wives so we should avoid saying shit like that and parroting moids themselves. It's easy enough to explain why young women in their prime are not and should not be attracted to middle aged moids past their prime.

No. 2520905

>>2520888
Getting old is gross for both genders and to me it has nothing to do with sex or dating old scrotes, I don't care about old scrotes and I don't support the anon who defends peterson or something. Just the way your body deteriorates; your teeth, muscle loss, bone loss, vision loss, hair loss, memory loss, movements becoming slower, wrinkly saggy skin and the smell of course, all of this is lovecraftian body horror. Of course it happens to wild animals too. They have it even worse than us, because most of them die from starvation in the old age (if they don't get killed that is), like elephants lose their teeth and even if they're still able to move, they simply can't eat and die. That's why I see life in all forms as ultimately pathetic, although it has a short spark of glory at the start. Almost all musicians, directors, writers etc. created their greatest most influential works before they hit 40.

No. 2520913

>>2520905
Again, no one defended Peterson kek. She just said he's not shilled as attractive, which is undeniably true.

>That's why I see life in all forms as ultimately pathetic, although it has a short spark of glory at the start. Almost all musicians, directors, writers etc. created their greatest most influential works before they hit 40.

This is so dumb I'm sorry. Plenty of musicians, writers, directors, etc. create their best work later in life, people just don't care as much or get so excited because they already are established at earlier ages so it's not as surprising that they continue to get better. Very few musicians, for instance, have made anything of any value before age 30. Most people who make great scientific achievements do so in their older age, and most don't even have enough training to start to make achievements until their thirties. People's value isn't just in looking shiny and pretty, and the belief that it is is something exclusively ingrained into women so we feel worthless right after we start early adulthood. Most women these days are being told they're old worthless crones before they even manage to move out of their parents' house kek. This is all the psyop too. Do you actually think moids believe they're worthless and should just give up when they hit 30? No they don't, they just want women to feel like that, and retarded women oblige.

No. 2520918

>>2520913
>Most people who make great scientific achievements do so in their older age, and most don't even have enough training to start to make achievements until their thirties
That's why I talked about all kind of art related people, it's the nature of the craft. The logistics of it are harder and require more time. But in terms of anything aesthetically related and inspired, most artists lose the spark after a certain age and I say it as someone who follows many older artits, there's just no comparison
>Do you actually think moids believe they're worthless and should just give up when they hit 30
No but they should. They should definitely stop using their sperm after 32 or so

No. 2520952

>>2520918
But it's not true of art people either. Every artist I can think of did their best work later in life, many in their 40s, 50s, even 60s. The only artists I can think of who did their best work in their twenties are people like Jeff Buckley who died in their twenties. Everyone else got better and created better works later. When you say 'people lose their spark later' I think you're misidentifying something which is that when someone with a really original idea comes along, people are first shocked by their originality which is usually when they're younger. Once they're older their personal style isn't surprising anymore, but that doesn't mean it doesn't get better. Fiona Apple's last album is far and away her best of all time, even though people were shocked by her original style as a teenager. Tom Waits, same thing. Nina Simone, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, Duke Ellington, Bach, Chopin, Liszt, etc. all created some of their very best works in middle age or in some cases older. It takes time to become very good at things, but people come right out the gate with interesting personalities that surprise people, which is the case with many artists. That's what you're describing when you describe that 'spark.' Actually knowing musicians, they get better as they age, almost 100% of the time.

It's obvious you have an incredibly nihilistic worldview though, about both men and women. Seems pointless to argue. You've been psyopped effectively.

No. 2520960

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girls of the younger generation are still really getting pregnant

No. 2520967

>>2520952
Michelangelo was 23 when he sculpted Pieta, Mozart died at 35, basically the entire rock revolution and every big rock subgenre that was created in the XX century was started by people between 20 and 35 and all those bands and solo artists created their most influential works at that age. Everything that people are still nostalgiafagging for was started by young people (before 40)
>You've been psyopped effectively
Nope I don't center my life around men and I'm celibate by choice. Women who find old men ugly will still chase younger men, their lives always revolve around men in one way or another, which is the psyopp of its own

No. 2520977

>>2520967
kek all of them were barely able to create in their 30s because they were either too ill or completely wasted/drugged out, not because they were too old

No. 2520989

>>2520967
>Michelangelo was 23 when he sculpted Pieta
Yeah and he didn't just stop creating good works after that kek
>Mozart died at 35
And his only really great piece of music was the one he was composing on his deathbed (sorry Mozart fans).
>rock
Sucks in general that's why it doesn't age well and rock artists don't get any more interesting with age.
>Everything that people are still nostalgiafagging for was started by young people
Speak for yourself and like I said people's original personalities are already evident when they are young. This does not mean that they don't get better as they age or do things that are more important or better as they age, it just means the first time you heard that artist and went 'wow, how interesting!' was at their youngest when they first appeared on the scene. That doesn't mean it was their best work. The fact you unironically think women are at their most interesting at age 20 because skin so smooth and no old lady smell is so genuinely pathetic, that is the time when you are most naive, easily controlled by others, full of yourself and ultimately unoriginal and boring. It's fair to say people are most physically beautiful and also at peak strength/agility when they're fairly young, but that's pretty much it.

>I don't center my life around men

And yet despite that you still believe that women are worthless old hags over 30 kek

No. 2520996

>>2520967
>Michelangelo
Why would you even bother pulling out Renaissance painters for this argument, literally all of them painted and sculpted their most famous works in their late 30s, 40s and 50s including Michelangelo. Same with all classical composers who didn't happen to die before their 40s.

No. 2521000

>>2520989
>artists don't get any more interesting with age.
Like most artists. Not all of course but most.

No. 2521004

>>2520996
>including Michelangelo
literally all his greatest works besides Last Judgement were created when he was young tho

No. 2521005

>>2521004
subjective

No. 2521019

>>2520989
>And yet despite that you still believe that women are worthless old hags over 30 kek
Oh my fucking god, WHERE did I say this? They are not worthless as people by any means. I simply said the physical process of getting old is terrible in itself, and losing control over your body and memory is terrible, being able to do less and less is terrible, and it's about all life forms not just human women. We are literally trapped in meat suits and we have almost no control over what happens with them over time
EVERYTHING you know and remember can be taken away from you by an aneurysm in the span of a second. You can lose it all in a moment, but learning new skills and languages takes months. How is that not a horror? And the risk of every terrible thing that can happen to our body, like cancer, grows with age.
Also you implied that I somehow romanticize women's early 20s and claim women are "the best at 20" and other scrotetalk like that, and it literally never happened. It's like you want to fight against one particual idea so bad you put words in my mouth that I never used.

No. 2521024

>>2520989
>his only really great piece of music was the one he was composing on his deathbed (sorry Mozart fans)
Don't apologize for telling the truth.

No. 2521026

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>>2520811
Ikr? That dude looks like handsome squidward: he has all the traits that are considered attractive on scrotes, but ALL of it and TOGETHER just does too much for his face and that makes it look ugly in execution.

No. 2521042

>>2518795
Ben Hur has another good example of a man who looked older than his age but still mogged modern moids of the same age. Boyd was even younger than Heston, only 27 when he played in Ben Hur, and he looked and sounded like this (00:30 for the interview). I truly believe in retro moid supremacy

No. 2521098

>>2520261
Kek sorry

No. 2521234

BJ chan needs to get the fuck out the thread. You are literally a sex worker with a humiliation fetish. It doesn’t get any more pathetic than that.

No. 2521241

>>2520874
>hes not part of the psyop111!!!
>he says that women past 35 are old and should be married and with children
Sure… defend that scrote all you want its very obvious his value of women is tied to how fertile aka young they are.

No. 2521242

>>2520888
I wasnt talking about women? Wtf are you offended on behalf of men. Old women take care of themselves, old moids dont.

No. 2521247

>>2521234
Sex worker?? More on this???

No. 2521267

>>2520888
>>2521242
This whole argument reminds me of all the times anons get offended whenever fat moids, gay moids, and moids of other categories in general get mocked because they assume the op is including women too for some reason

No. 2521365

File: 1747050142064.jpeg (54.87 KB, 736x1104, MONO #ChuckII STORY - Fucking …)

Nonas, have you ever seen a man irl that made your jaw drop?
How long ago was it? How many times did it happen?

pls reply we are so close to filling this thread and getting rid of the threadpic

No. 2521370

>>2521247
There's nothing. Someone keeps posting she has a husband, she's a sex worker, etc, then whenever someone asks for proof, no response.

No. 2521383

>>2521365
Yes everyone cast your votes. I’m in favor of mogging pics.

No. 2521405

>>2521365
Never, I live in a shithole.

No. 2521464

>>2521370
She literally is. I’m in a discord where we all point and laugh at her Instagram account where she posts endlessly about her humiliation fetish. All of her posts were just an online persona her and her walled scrote crafted to use as wank material to sell to other coomers.

No. 2521483

>>2521365
Once, about 8 years ago. I was so shocked when I saw him and then he actually stopped me on my way and asked whether I speak English!
…turns out that he was a mormon missionnaire. I ran so fast kek

No. 2521485

>>2521464
wow youre actually more mental than she is, impressive

No. 2521490

>>2521485
stahp tyaping like a bot maed in a factery alredy(learn2integrate)

No. 2521506

>>2521483
lmao nonna he was your chance at a pure virgin bf and you blew it

No. 2521655

>>2521464
Gimp girl’s daughter

No. 2521893

>>2521365
He's so fine

No. 2521894

File: 1747089961168.jpg (432.54 KB, 1080x1022, Screenshot_20250513_004306.jpg)

(moid bait)

No. 2521899

>>2521365
Not a jaw drop but I did do a double take at a guy irl a few weeks ago.

No. 2522395

File: 1747150260023.jpg (134.33 KB, 1000x600, 575.jpg)

brutal mog

No. 2522401

>>2522395
Sloping shoulders on a man is my "ick", you could literally ski down those slopes

No. 2522462

>>2521506
Maybe lol I only remembered that I learned in school that mormons still had multiple wifes until not that long ago, plus there were other guys behind him and it was already dark outside, so I suddenly got scared

No. 2522472

This cute korean (not kpop!) pottery guy has extremely wide and straight shoulders without being too muscular. To look really attractive you need good genetics, but moids (except looksmaxxers) don't get that, they see "gym" as this huge deal, an entire lifestyle (that often comes with faggotry and women-hating), when in reality working out should be something natural and inherent to moids like eating, sleeping,…

No. 2522474

>>2522472
there's probably a filter somewhere

No. 2522477

>>2522474
kek I knew that somebody would say that. Here's him working with some old white moid who clearly doesn't have a filter on, so unless he edits just himself, he really does look like that. I know what you mean tho, sadly most chinese thirsttraps use them and you can always see straight lines like furniture wobble around them.

No. 2522532

>>2522395
If the moid on the left didn't work out his neck? muscles, his shoulders would look proportional. The problem with these gym bros who work out too much is that they overwork every muscle, instead of targeting specific areas and leaving others alone. They look like overinflated meat balloons.

No. 2522624

The popularity of the RPF thread on /m/ and the Oasis incest spam of those two ugly inbred britbongs makes me lose faith not only in this website, but women as a whole

No. 2522627

>>2522624
You didn't lose faith when Luigifags stated showing up?

No. 2522632

>>2522627
As someone who was a Luigifag for a day back when he was at his peak popularity I can kinda understand it, probably because I'm biased even though I've snapped out of my trance and think he's ugly now. Luigi shot a healthcare CEO profiting off peoples suffering, Oasis has done nothing but inspire an awful scene with their dogshit music

No. 2522634

>>2522624
It's been broken since the influx of actorfags when the pandemic was in full force. Even if the men aren't ugly, the glorification of some of these men, who are abusive or have done lousy things (ie ezrafags when they were a thing with ezra miller, some of them acknowledged he was wrong and just liked his face, but others are in denial of his grooming and cult scandals), is enough to make me recoil.

No. 2522640

>>2522634
Not surprising pandemic retards ruined everything

No. 2522643

>>2522632
The fact that the hardcore luigifags are in denial of everything shady and gross he has done…

No. 2522645

>>2522640
Social isolation made some anons go batshit crazy.

No. 2522655

>>2522632
Now Luigi profits off of women’s horniness. Same parasite different host. Women and the media are psyopping people into thinking he is attractive and kind so his defense fund gets more donations kek

No. 2522687

>>2522643
what's he done? i dont lurk the luigi threads

No. 2522693

>>2522477
Filters are really good nowadays, it could just be on himself

No. 2522819

>>2522687
>retweeted shit about women being the achilles heel of civilization
>attempted to buy 400 copies of a book where women are blamed for destroying society
>retweeted shit about how women have to protect moid feefees
>tweeted/retweeted something about women being chained to a radiator
>added Aella to his evopsych twitter group
This one makes me kek. Cow crossover
>redpilled chud
>sex tourism in Thailand
>porn addict
>dunning kruger personified
>spent 200 dollars on his own birthday to talk to a grifter on Twitter
>was a reply guy to multiple grifters on Twitter
>social media addict who laments about social media addiction
>got a back surgery he didn't need
>went to a commune in Hawaii and befriended the person who runs it, who is accused of sexual harassment
>liked it so much he's in their promo vids and visited loads of times
>got radicalized by reading Ted K's manifesto
>otherwise read self help slop
>begged Twitter grifters to make a friend group for him
Among other things.

No. 2522854

>>2522632
to be fair some of the oasisfags admit to not even liking the music, but were more just puzzled at how the guys openly tongue kissed and groped each other while the public seemed to ignore it. which led to digging into their weird interviews, anecdotes, etc. i guess there's an appeal in a "watching two trainwrecks" sort of way because of that.
tbh shippers will ship basically anything as long as the subjects act even the slightest bit gay even if they're monkeys

No. 2522872

>>2522632
>dogshit music
are you insane?

No. 2523113

File: 1747195155408.jpg (1.66 MB, 1080x2500, Collage_20250514_054458.jpg)

Beards need to be banned

No. 2523182

>>2522819
Even though he was a rich kid with an attractive face everything about him when you look past his eat the rich crime reads like such a terminally online late millennial early gen z male incel loser.

No. 2523592

>>2521365
Happened to me exactly once - it was roughly three years ago and I was in a relationship at the time but I don't remember anything other than the fact that he was distractingly handsome. I'm in a country where men are encouraged to be slobs somewhat, so seeing a guy who has a jawline and takes care of himself was pretty notable. It was just the one time sadly and I haven't seen someone that got close since.

No. 2523791

>>2523113
Agreed. I'm tired of seeing men making themselves look 10 years older than they actually are with these when they already age poorly as it is. I know they're lazy and want to hide their weak chins with the facial hair but all it does is make them look even worse. They'll still keep deluding themselves and believing it makes them look like le manly chad and is what every single woman wants though.

No. 2523815

File: 1747258930937.jpg (45.19 KB, 464x700, geneticfailure.jpg)

>>2520267
NTA but yes, I dated a man 9 years younger and we both lost our virginities together. I enjoyed the power dynamic for a while but ultimately he turned me into his mother. I was 35. It's the only way to find someone who isn't bald and fat although spoiler, mine starting balding not long into the relationship.

Obligatory ugly man photo, that hairline is going back fast.

No. 2523837

File: 1747259608942.jpeg (134.83 KB, 833x1024, 4C474855-D9B4-4848-B30F-0F1064…)

>>2520267
Absolutely. Just be confident tbh if anything being inexperienced takes the pressure off both of u.

No. 2523869

>>2521365
Once when i went to the richest part of the country. Everyone there was like 6feet tall and blonde.

No. 2523873

File: 1747261455533.jpeg (Spoiler Image,276.14 KB, 1322x1652, Gq2qrZcW8AAy8n_.jpeg)

Saw this and made me think of this thread

No. 2523927

>>2523873
disturbing, the hairy moid reminds me of a guy from my old job

No. 2524067

>>2523873
Lol this reminds me of an ex friend who went to such intense lengths to be beautiful, orthorexia, laser appointments because she had 'dark' body and facial hair (not really), hours of barre/adult ballet whatever to 'target cellulite' or whatever and after knowing her for a year she introduced me to her crush when we went to the pool together, the moid was an actual gorilla creature covered head to toe in thick curly black hair. Like head to toe I'm not even kidding, way darker and thicker than the moid in that comic. And moids claim women live life on easy mode.

No. 2524184

>>2523873
This has been made "straight culture" and I hae it so much

No. 2524190

>>2524184
I actually stopped shaving my legs as a teen because I saw one too many self-pitying moid screeds about how they're going to probably actually die because their girlfriend has armpit hair/pubes/stubble kek and it just struck me as so stupid I decided to stop shaving since the gorilla moids won't do it either. Funny enough it never impacted my romantic prospects.

No. 2525030

File: 1747356509536.jpeg (947.37 KB, 3464x3269, C4FF5BD9-CC49-432F-AA74-F18A0A…)

This is so bleak

No. 2525031

>>2525030
>sincerely a lesbian
why do you lie

No. 2525032

>>2525030
Why do pickmes do this? do they think men will do the same for their fat asses or is it a humilliation fetish

No. 2525047

>>2525032
tbf half of those comments are male fat fetishists

No. 2525056

I'm checking bumble and the males over the age of 30 are so depressingly walled. Do I NEED a male partner? Fuck!

No. 2525140

>>2525031
Real life lesbians are outnumbered by these attention whores at this point.

No. 2525301

>>2525056
Just go for younger men who look your age

No. 2525412

>>2521365
When I was in medical school, there was like two to three guys I thought were pretty. Then when I was traveling I counted maybe several? My taste in men is lil lenient than other nonnas but it's telling how rare attractive men are now.

No. 2525746

File: 1747419406363.jpg (69.48 KB, 640x800, 1747416541189834.jpg)

>what level of pickmeism are you on?

No. 2525751

>>2525746
His roidpig form reminds me of rotisserie chicken… in a bad way

No. 2525814

>>2525746
I don’t like neither. Good bone structure trumps all.

No. 2525830

>>2525746
I'd pick the first one too. It's not the muscle tone, it's that he looks pink and short and shrimpy in the 2nd one. He looks older too, which is common from weightloss and the angle makes his hairline look more receded.

No. 2526019

Nonnas, I'm concerned my taste in my men isn't genuine because I can't accept too much flaws before he starts looking ugly to me? Has anyone felt this before?

No. 2526033

>>2525746
balding faggot VS. extra balding faggot overcooked turkey edition

No. 2526054

File: 1747433200321.mp4 (1.44 MB, 720x1280, 1746918818267.mp4)

>>2525746
>none have waists or juicy pecs
into the trash it goes.

No. 2526068

File: 1747433868313.jpg (439.48 KB, 1832x1062, jABXzbH.jpg)

Least hypocritical scrote
>women lose weight
>men do sex tourism
This is a tinfoil but a big part of why white men love harping on about how ugly non white women are is to neg them into thinking ugly white scrotes like this are doing them a favor.

No. 2526073

>>2526068
That guy doesn’t look obese except for the face, is it a male thyroid or adrenal disorder?

No. 2526074

>>2526068
Why would you out yourself as such a pathetic failure unless you had a degradation kink?

No. 2526075

File: 1747434427121.jpg (202.63 KB, 1016x1297, fBahPA5.jpg)

>>2526073
This is also one of his profile pics. Scrotes love victim blaming women about choosing shitty men then get mad when we don't entertain blatant sex pests

No. 2526078

>>2526075
hair transplant or suicide are his options. 26… what the fuck, ive known 50+ year old men with better hairlines. just get those goddawful genes out of here

No. 2526086

>>2526068
Being a fat man is literally being a failure. Males aren’t made to be fat. They just need to run for a week and they’ll shed 5 kgs.

No. 2526105

>>2525030
>sincerely a lesbian straight woman/AGP transbian

No. 2526205

File: 1747445753657.jpeg (237.11 KB, 750x734, IMG_2436.jpeg)

>>2526075
You know what, you’re right. This IS what the average 26 year old moid looks like and is exactly why women are en masse refusing to touch you scrotoids.

No. 2526209

File: 1747445928932.jpeg (29.59 KB, 319x474, 8i8ah6f4uabc1.jpeg)

>>2526205
>not unattractive
Kek he looks like fucking Moviebob, and he's only 26.

No. 2526228

>>2526068
These "SEAmaxxers" are hilarious. Do they not realize that thei rAsian waifu is only with them for money? They can cope all they want that the "c-culture is different" but the moment he loses his money she will leave him without a second glance.

No. 2526238

I'm so tired of seeing ugly men irl. I wish I could at least look at beautoful men in movies. But they took it away from me…

No. 2526245

>>2526238
Just watch East Asian cinema

No. 2526253

>>2526075
sorry for going full insufferable vegoon on lc but why are men so proud of killing defenseless animals? cruelty to animals is such a quintessentially male characteristic istg. I don't think I've ever seen a woman praise men for putting photos of them holding dead animals on their profiles, and yet they still do it. they actively reject the concept of being attractive to women.

No. 2526298

File: 1747453889150.png (918.22 KB, 1833x1540, 1000022046.png)

>>2526078
Honestly losing weight might help fix his hairline. There's a correlation between obesity and hair thinning. and yes 'Sonic Hedgehog' is a real medical term for a gene, yes it's inhibitor is named Robotnikinin

No. 2526326

>>2526245
Ill never understand why looksmaxers and retarded men in general think an ugly roidpig creature with a massive jaw and anachan level hollow cheeks is peak attractiveness. Just have a baby face and don't get fat to look better than 80% of men out there.

No. 2526327

I hate this movie. I hate how it demonizes the woman for falling in love with the younger guy instead of the pedophilic moid that could be her dad(he's 20 years older than her, ugh). I hate how in the end she ends up with the grandpa too and its seen as a happy ending. Ew. Its sad how even in fiction women arent allowed escapism. Men have thousands of books, movies, games, manga etc about ugly below average jhons getting hot, intelligent, beautiful women. But even in fiction women are constantly nagged into settling.

No. 2526476

>>2526253
I was literally thinking this when I saw the pic, I wouldn’t want to be with a guy who hunts or fishes for sport I think they should at least eat it but you just know they’re only taking pics with it for their dating profile and then throwing it away kek

No. 2526490

>>2526075
My 57 year old dad looks younger than this fat, bald faggot KEK.

No. 2526494

>>2526476
The fishing pictures are probably doing him in more than the hairline. Both are reprehensible and match his personality, but he must be a retard too if he can’t understand how >>2526075 may negatively impact his chances.

No. 2526496

File: 1747475868322.png (61.1 KB, 624x277, Screenshot 2025-05-17 025722.p…)

>>2526253
they're trying to impress other men

No. 2526523

>>2526496
I don't believe most men are capable of being intelectually impressed by women. I heard that from a couple of men already, that the only people who made something that was artistically or intelectually impressive in their eyes were always other men. It was painful for me because I wanted to be respected more than being desired, I don't don't why but on top of being dysphoric I was always fixated on getting approval from males for my ideas or the things I created, but I didn't want to be sexually desired by them. But now I think they hold that kind of respect only for other men…

No. 2526558

>>2526327
The weird thing is, iirc (I read the book in high school so I might be misremembering) I don't think the moid was supposed to be super old, I think he was like early-mid thirties and attractive but Marianne was super young which was why she thought he was too old, he wasn't an actual grandpa. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think casting Snape was necessary to convey the age difference, especially if they were gonna romanticize it - Winslet I think was a teen in the movie, so close to Marianne's age in the book, and Alan Rickman was literally like 50. Jane Austen typically 'demonized' (not really, more like felt sorry for/wrote cautionary tales about) characters who fall for shitty superficially charming men because she knew this would lead to total ruin in her time and was afraid of player fuckboy type men fucking up women's lives, she wasn't into the idea of women marrying men they don't like/love though. She herself never even married and her books were always really sympathetic toward old maids/unmarried single women. The movie is mostly following the book but with an unnecessarily old casting, which makes it seem creepier than the book intended (age difference was creepy in the book too but it was more normal for girls to marry young back then and she herself I think was a teen or 20 when she was writing it). Tbf Emma Thompson was also at least like a decade too old for her character kek so at least they were equal-opportunity offenders for once instead of exclusively casting super young women, now every movie has a 25 year old actress playing what should be a 40yo love interest for the moid.

>>2526490
Mine too anon and he's in his 60s

No. 2526595

>>2526496
>>2526523
Men definitely can respect and revere women but you basically can only get that respect through doing a moid hobby and then beating them at it. For instance, chess or golf or snipe-shooting or quantum physics or something. Most women arent autistic enough to nolife those hobbies like men do and so the number of women who actually get to that level of prestige is naturally very low.

No. 2526598

>>2526068
Please Thai women, take this scrote, I'm begging you. Just guard your kids around him.

No. 2526601

>>2526054
I like to spam videos like this on male imageboards to make them seethe.
Imagine if this kind of content was as normalized as female thrist traps are. They arent because most men are out of shape. Men are so fucking lazy and fat.

No. 2526605

>>2526558
>but it was more normal for girls to marry young back then
This is a meme, most were in their 20s (not even just 20 but a bit older than that too) marrying other 20-somethings. Huge gaps were the exception not the rule.

No. 2526606

>>2526595
Neither of those anons, but even when women beat moids at moid hobbies at best they just say "cool" and just ignore her and don't acknowledge her ever again or they praise her in a very fake reddit positive way that feels forced but maybe it's just me. Are there any examples of men geniunely praising women?

No. 2526607

>>2502571
I feel like other races of men aggressively try to gatekeep women from dating Asian men by constantly bashing them and calling them effeminate and small dicked. I am not gonna say Asian men are great because I know a ton of them are shitty just like every other race of men. But on paper, Asian moids are better husband material: they have more money, commit less crime, are less fat, generally have better jobs, and lower divorce rates than any other race of moid. I just find the way other races of men seethe at women who like Asian men really weird. As far as dating scrotes goes, they are probably the safest option.

No. 2526613

File: 1747488042678.png (6.93 KB, 962x83, fandomdiscourse.png)

This is about Solid Snake. Also it's ironic for the poster to imply liking men who aren't bearded roidpigs makes them pedos when he himself is a pedo who was sexually attracted to an 18 year old as a 33 year old.(dragging an infight across threads)

No. 2526614

>>2526606
I lurk social media a lot and definitely see men praising women who excel at typically 'male interests'. It's just rare for women to actually manage to do that, so the amount of times women achieve that kind of praise still stays low.
I've also seen it irl too, whenever women beat men at stuff. Men are simple creatures like dogs. Whoever beats them at something immediately triggers a submission button in their brains. Some of them lash out against this natural instinct and will cope and seethe, but in general they mostly just take the L. You will always get sexist scrotes who hate women and will never praise a woman ever no matter what she does. But I think in general, genuine talent or skill does impress moids, but you'll always have to work twice as hard to get it. Not that 'impressing the guys' should be your motivation for becoming really good at something btw.

No. 2526615

>>2526595
Even then I feel like it's more common for the moid to dismiss it or find reasons it doesn't count, or at worst get mad and humiliated and want to "put her in her place"

No. 2526626

>>2526614
>Men are simple creatures like dogs. Whoever beats them at something immediately triggers a submission button in their brains
I will never forget the rush of dopamine I got when at like 11 years old I was able to beat every boy in my class in arm wrestling kek. But that was before puberty hit us. Then they obviously became much stronger than me, while before puberty I was taller and stronger… I wish the sexual dimorphism wasn't so strong in humans so I could still be physically stronger than men. I remember something about it was so satisfying and exciting. I genuinely miss being taller than males my age too. I'm autistic but I don't have the concentration required to learn a big brain skill or simply commit to something >>2526595 I just wish I could beat the shit out of them kek

No. 2526667

>>2526615
If he's some spectator neckbeard incel then maybe, but usually the moids who you're actually in competition with will give credit where it's due, isn't it more flattering coming from them anyway than some worthless rubberneck basement dweller?

No. 2526677

>>2526075
>26
>hairline
>neckbeard
>fat
>dead fish
>"sitya ass on my face"
bleak

No. 2526684

>>2526607
>they have more money, commit less crime, are less fat, generally have better jobs, and lower divorce rates than any other race of moid
You forgot the higher educational performance and lesser balding rates. One of them gave me the best fuck of my life. If I really wanted a child and had to either get hitched or visit a sperm bank, I would pick an East Asian moid to change my biology, based on my experience with them. Their resumes are the best of all the moids, and they seem to have less genetic hiccups than the others. For any britbongs reading this, I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT TALKING ABOUT INDIAN OR MIDDLE-EASTERN SCROTES.

No. 2526697

File: 1747494370992.jpg (894.71 KB, 2500x1707, 230919185224-01-battle-of-the-…)

>>2526615
>dismiss it or find reasons it doesn't count
Exactly this kek. Even back in the 70s when Billie Jean King btfo a leading tennis moid who got too cocky, the general reaction from moids was endless coping.

No. 2526757

File: 1747498120138.png (20.31 KB, 601x229, 1747435768860371.png)

this is cringe as fuck but still funny because it made men seethe

No. 2526765

File: 1747498515022.png (6.84 KB, 434x140, Capture.PNG)

>>2526607
>I feel like other races of men aggressively try to gatekeep women from dating Asian men by constantly bashing them and calling them effeminate and small dicked.
Scrotes do that on this very site. Nothing makes moids seethe more than women having yellow fever kek.

No. 2526767

>>2526757
If I cared about having sex with moids at the moment, I actually would prefer the first option. At least if I get knocked up, it'll most likely be by a scrote with some good genes instead of being stuck with a mediocre moid.

No. 2526768

>>2526757
>Blue check mark for maximum reach+seethe
Kek.

No. 2526769

>>2526765
i heard there is a tranny who lurks here who got jilted by some russian hapa moid and went completely insane. he probably wrote that.

No. 2526773

>>2526757
that's asian RFH for you

No. 2526776

>>2526607
>lower divorce rates than any other race of moid
low divorce rates in any group is because of women and more pressure for women not to get divorced even when they're treated like shit or cheated on to "save face", and less to do with men.

No. 2526791

>>2526757
I don't want to choose between two evils. The second options is terrible for obvious reasons (and having sex with an ugly moid would literally feel like being raped) but I wouldn't want the first option either, I would fell in love with the guy and then I would had to suffer knowing he only used me for sex. But if someone believes in hook up culture and likes sex without love, then I can understand why the first option would be nice

No. 2526852

>>2526776
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244015590161
>The signs of mating competition are written into the physiology of the human male, but they are not written equally into the physiology of all racial groupings of human males. It seems that Asian males are different, different in that they are more fully dissimilar from the gorilla than are other races, showing less sexual dimorphism, muscularity, and less marked secondary sexual characteristics, and different in that they are more fully dissimilar from the chimpanzee than are other races, showing less sexual drive and activity as well as smaller testicles and lower sperm counts. It is presently argued that such anatomical differences are a testament to a more peaceably monogamous mating history.
>After extrapolating from animal models, the present work thereafter argues that Asian biology minimizes mating competition, promoting a more peaceable monogamous mating style
Asian males are biologically more monogamous.

No. 2526884

>>2526054
They have really nice bodies, especially the moid on the right, but the way it's edited combined with the music made me burst out laughing. So dramatic kek

No. 2526890

>>2526605
Yeah I know most girls were married in their early-mid 20s, but it was MORE normal for women to marry young back then. It's not at all normal now, it's illegal in most cases, but back then it did happen, especially in aristocratic families that were trying to get money by pawning off their daughters to someone rich or connected (which was basically the case in S&S and P&P). Jane Austen wrote Sense and Sensibility, most likely, when she was a teenager herself which imo makes the depiction of a teen girl not wanting to date a 30-something moid because he's too old but ultimately liking him a lot way less creepy than if it was written by a man, older woman with more life experience, etc. In her later books she was more negative/sarcastic writing about pairings with big age gaps or very young women getting married for money/status, and Persuasion had the main character be a 'past marriage age' old maid. Aging up Marianne slightly in the movie was a good idea since by modern standards she was beyond too young to get married, but literally almost doubling the age of the male love interest was such a retarded thing to do because the original age gap was already concerning enough to the character(s) in the book and presented as problematically large without having to make him literally geriatric and ugly. He was supposed to be too old for her, but still attractive and 'dashing'. I first watched that movie as a teen and found it really creepy.

>>2526606
Yes… I mean most moids don't because they're retarded but plenty do respect and admire women, especially men who are more intelligent and actually have to work with women in high-status fields. Lots of sporty men give a lot of respect to women and girls who excel at athletics too. They usually respect you more if you're good at stuff they care about or understand.

>>2526607
As someone who has done it dating Asian men absolutely sucks, and if you look at the rates of VAW, sexual assault, prostitution and cheating in East Asian countries they're very high. Was not worth it just because he was hot. So I wouldn't shill them just because they bald less and tend to be thinner - if you like that aspect of Asian men you're probably better off dating like some 3rd generation Asian male who is fully westernized in personality/culture. I agree they look better than most men and are more likely to earn more, but I'm not sure if other men are jealous of them for that, I think they just legitimately weren't considered attractive in the West until recently and they suddenly are. I think moids seethe at Asian men because they used to not consider them competition, but now with the rise of Asian media that's not true anymore which gives other men more competition for women.

No. 2526901

>>2526684
They really do beat all other races of scrotes and are total husband material in every way. But personally, I just don't really find them facially attractive, which is sad because they're perfect in every other way…

No. 2526925

>>2526791
I'm the nona who posted that image and both options sound disgusting to me, honestly. Just give me marriage and commitment with a 10/10 who treats me like a queen ffs.

No. 2526928

>>2526890
I feel like westernized Asian men are much less misogynistic than actual Asian men. Something I noticed is that I never really see Asian moids writing cringey horny comments under women's posts or thirst traps. it's always Latino, Indian and White men who write the creepiest shit under coombait videos.

No. 2526940

>>2526928
>less misogynistic
lol lmao they're just not upfront about it. A latino will be a retard and yell at a woman but a Asian guy will gaslight you until you kill yourself or make it look like you're the issue. They're usually mental torturers instead of physical. Not to mention the rampant cheating.(racebaiting)

No. 2526962

>>2526852
no, japan has a huge culture of cheating being common or acceptable if you're discreet about it

No. 2526986

>>2526928
Westernized Asian men can still be as misogynistic as any other men but at least they didn't grow up stewing in one of the cultures with the worst VAW rates in the OECD and rampant socially prostitution/cheating, etc. Sage for blog but my East Asian ex talked a lot about how much he preferred western culture because it was less regressive and sexist, how he hated sexist gender roles back home and how his mom and sister both suffered from extreme domestic violence (he did too but to a smaller extent) only to then turn around and act in extremely stereotypical ways without even noticing. He defended his retarded ugly old moid friend emotionally abusing his young, beautiful, intelligent wife for hours/days on end with 'that's just our culture, newlywed wives are supposed to make an effort for their husbands,' was extremely religiously/morally repressed, insanely jealous/possessive and controlling about the tiniest things, etc. There are extremely strict conduct codes for women in East Asian cultures and moids in those cultures will chimp out of women don't meet them. He was extremely high-intelligence, hardworking, polite (when he wasn't having a melty) and hot/athletic, which is why I dated him in the first place, but once I knew him for a bit longer and the ultrapolite respectful mask started slipping I understood why other people had warned me not to date recent E.A. immigrants.

On the other hand the women I know who have dated/are dating 2nd/3rd gen East Asian men don't seem to experience most of these same issues (and the 2nd/3rd gen Asian moids I've been friends with seemed much chiller as well), because they weren't surrounded by those cultural norms growing up. They may still have 'tiger moms' and dads who make them do their homework until 1am every day and may still be kinda neurotic but they didn't grow up seeing extremely regressive treatment of women normalized absolutely everywhere.

No. 2527011

>>2526940
if asian men were as bad as other races of men then they would be in jail as much as them but theyre not

No. 2527018

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Seems that white moids are the hardest to live with, followed by black moids and then latinos and the asian moids.
If a man has been divorced before that's always a huge red flag imo. Women do not divorce good men.

No. 2527022

>>2526986
i've only ever dated white and asian moids, but i have to say, the asian moids treated me best. there was no violence or abuse. they were always buying me stuff, listening to me talk and having in depth conversations without constantly trying to turn everything perverted or sexual, taking me places, listening to what i actual want and trying to please me. it was my asian ex who encouraged me to go back to school again and make something of myself which im thankful for because now im actually making good money. white moids can be very sweet or very evil, but they are always porn addicts and try to turn everything sexual which is annoying. a lot more selfish too and not humble at all. i felt like my asian exes always tried to cheer me on and encourage me to be successful, meanwhile the white moids i dated were always jealous and bitter anytime i succeeded at anything and would try to neg me and bring me down. im personally done with dating and not interested in marriage at all anymore, but thats my two cents. i cant promise that the asian moids any other nona dates will be as good as the ones i did though. men as a whole are usually trash, i think i just got very lucky.

No. 2527026

>>2527022
also, i fit asian beauty standards so that may have been part of why they were nicer to me and spoiled me more.

No. 2527040

I am too shallow to fall in love with men. I think i would cry if i marry a hottie and then see him slowly wither into a decrepit old man. It doesnt help men are shallow until the day they day and will not allow you to decay alongside them. Seeing 60yo grannies dying their hair and applying make up and shaving for their corpse looking husbands is so bleak.

No. 2527045

>>2526962
That's just a meme, desu

No. 2527048

>>2526901
Same, I like some asian male celebs, but the average asian guy you'll meet has a very round pudgy face which is highly unattractive for me

No. 2527058

>>2526595
every time i've beaten a man in a game he gets extra offended that he lost to a "lowly" woman. i've seen some chill chess players be impressed by a woman like these guys in new york but otherwise moids tend to get their masculinity damaged and they take out their rage on you

No. 2527062

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>>2527058
note that they would never say "among men"

No. 2527129

>>2526890
The worst part about East Asian men are their mothers. If he isn’t marrying another East Asian he’s literally killing her.

No. 2527168

>>2527129
What do you mean by this?

>>2527062
This is kind of a nitpick though, since all the top world players are male. He's saying she was the #1 in women's chess, not open chess. I would have also said the exact same thing and I'm female kek since it would be inaccurate to call someone who is not the #1 chess player overall 'the #1 chess player.' The moid is not being disrespectful.

>>2527058
This is weird to me. Maybe it's cultural, I've gotten plenty of respect from men throughout my life, as long as they are not bitter ugly poor scrotes with no skills themselves.

>>2527022
Out of curiosity where were they born nonna? I think the culture a man grew up in is much more important than just his general ethnic background when it comes to his attitudes toward women (and other socialized personality traits).

No. 2527173

>>2527129
Uh no, Asian women get the most shit from Asian mother in laws. You're basically supposed to become a deferential slave to your mother in law as an Asian woman. Asian moms are happy when their son brings home a white woman because they're obsessed with hapa grandchildren and think it's a sign he has made it in life if he managed to attract a white woman. If you're a darker skinned Latina, Black woman or Indian, then good luck, because then your Asian mother in law really will hate you.

No. 2527176

>>2527058
These are just random park hobo moids though kek. If you managed to beat a famous grandmaster like Magnus Carlsen or something, then maybe moids would actually think you're female Jesus (or the bitter ones would say you are cheating I guess)

No. 2527182

>>2527176
Female grandmasters do beat male grandmasters though, even if they never beat the best/most famous ones, and most normal men into chess do have an enormous amount of respect for the best female gradmasters, know them by name, sperg about them etc. Same with like pretty much any other occupation/hobby, moids actually serious about that hobby will most of the time respect women who are better than them. I think moids like that retarded PhD moid who wrote to the female mathematician were more common in the past and they are the most loudly bitter but now that moids in academic professions more commonly work with women, most of them are perfectly capable of respecting women and admiring women who are good at something they care about.

Anyway it's kind of a derail because it doesn't have much to do with attractiveness, although I will say there is no man as bitter and nasty about female excellence as an ugly man. Never met a hot, fit man who malded and felt threatened by female excellence, it's only ugly scrotes with inferiority complexes.

No. 2527188

>>2527182
>even if they never beat the best/most famous ones
You can’t talk about female excellence then immediately say this shit beforehand. Come on. Creating the implication that they can never beat the best and most famous chess grandmasters because of their status is a woman is super sexist.

No. 2527189

>>2527168
so they have "men's chess"?

No. 2527191

>>2527182
>never met a hot, fit man who malded and felt threatened by female excellence, it's only ugly scrotes with inferiority complexes
gotta agree with this. its always the lowlife and talentless moids who seethe most about female achievement.

No. 2527197

>>2527191
I also agree with this but it's also super blackpilling to me. Attractive people always get more positive feedback than ugly ones (especially if they're male), it starts when they're kids and it shapes their character and outlook on the world and how they treat other people. Uglies grow bitter for a reason (not like it excuses the way they treat others in any way)

No. 2527222

>>2527191
>>2527197
this is true. those evil chads that incels seethe about are usually chill and kind. i've met a few genuinely good-hearted ugly moids but most of them are bitter and hateful like this fag at a bagel shop who has a meltdown about being short. look at the comments sympathizing with him. he barged in and started screaming at women who were minding their own business.

No. 2527229

>>2527188
It's just true that a woman has never won a world chess championship. I don't get what your issue is with admitting this reality in the context of whether moids respect female grandmasters or not? Moids do respect female grandmasters, even though they are never able to beat all the men in the world.

>>2527189
No, they have open chess and women's chess. That's why you would never hear a moid saying '#1 in men's chess' because that doesn't exist, but #1 in women's chess is a thing that exists. Reading comprehension, nonna.

>>2527197
There are a lot of other traits that are like this too though like intelligence, how wealthy you were born, etc. At least there are different kinds of advantages since most people don't have all of them all at once. I think ugly women are way less bitter and spiteful than ugly men on the whole though, and most women are nowhere near as ugly as even the average man so the number of women who are really perceived by society as truly ugly is low. There are SO MANY hideous moids and basically every single one of them is evil, spiteful and bitter, even though there's way less emphasis put on their appearance than there is on women's. Somehow unfortunate looking women manage to not be evil, spiteful and bitter a lot of the time.

No. 2527233

>>2527229
>Reading comprehension, nonna.
that's the fucking point, women have an entirely separate category. it's not like women's sports where there are physical differences so it makes sense. this is saying that women's brains are inferior to men's

No. 2527240

>>2527233
stop making up shit to get mad at and go practice some chess, loser.

No. 2527242

>>2527240
are you trying to bait? how is separating men and women in chess not literal sexism about brain capability

No. 2527246

>>2527229
And why aren’t they able to beat female grandmasters? Go ahead, tell me how without being sexist

No. 2527252

>>2527233
Women having their own category in chess is for women's benefit, not to prove we're dumb and inferior. It's to encourage women to actually participate in the first place due to psychological and social barriers. Studies show women perform worse when they think they are competing with men (even if they aren't), just being reminded of sexist ideas prior to, say, a math exam makes women perform worse. Stuff like that is so pervasive and deeply ingrained that the best solution to prevent women being shut out entirely is to give us our own playing field. Nothing is stopping women from competing in open if they want to.

No. 2527254

>>2527233
Women can compete in the open category. It's not like men forced women to form a female chess league, women did.

>>2527246
I don't know why you're expecting me to answer a question no one actually knows the answer to. Probably just that fewer women are encouraged to go into professional/competitive chess, some or many of them feel intimidated or mistreated when playing with men, etc. I don't know why you feel like you have the right to 'test' me on some unknown knowledge just because I pointed out a basic fact to you kek. You can try to make that moid commenter look evil and sexist all you want but it wasn't a sexist comment, he was just pointing out she won a women's world championship and the guy is just a guy.

No. 2527275

>>2527018
The issue with this statistic is that black people are less likely to get married in the first place. As their sky-high rates of single mother households attest, relationships with black moids don't tend to last long. Black moids who get married are unusual and probably somewhat above average. White people and Asians have higher marriage rates, but divorce is more culturally acceptable for the former, as others have said. It's hard to tell how much of the difference is due to those cultural factors vs other things such as lower rates of alcoholism or physical violence.

No. 2527304

>>2527254
europe has higher single motherhood rates than africa

No. 2527305

>>2527304
I think you responded to the wrong comment kek

No. 2527371

>>2527173
Hasn’t been my experience. They only like white son in laws.

No. 2527387

>>2527371
>Hasn’t been my experience.
>They only like white son in laws.
And how the hell would you that from experience?
You must be baiting.

No. 2527399

>>2527222
Holy shit there's a news interview with him about the meltdown and it's even funnier than the original video
>I was in the forest hitting trees with a miniature baseball bat and I hit myself in the leg
>The bruise went down now but it was there yesterday
Why are manlets like this

No. 2527405

Speaking of ugly moid rants, 2:50 - that moment when she tells him he has no hair will always be one of the most amazing and satisfying things I've ever seen in my life kek

No. 2527414

>>2527405
quickest ways to piss off a moid:
>call him short
>call him bald
>call him creepy

No. 2527422

>>2527405
>>2527414
The way he completely shuts down and becomes speechless with rage when she tells him he has no hair, incredible. I would think he would have noticed by this point in his life he has no hair but apparently moids are not the more visual sex.

No. 2527431

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No. 2527531

>>2527306
why would they pretend? The men aren't there at all

No. 2527538

>>2527387
Married one and he has a sister with a white bf and they way he’s treated compared to me is night and day.

No. 2527543

>>2527538
Sure. And my dad works at Nintendo.

No. 2527556

>>2527543
NTA but the idea of some girl marrying an Asian moid and his sister also having a white bf is like, the least difficult to believe thing imaginable. I've seen many many instances of this. It's like saying 'I have blonde hair' or something, yes, many people do.

No. 2527563

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>>2526607
>gatekeeping women
This isn't a thing exclusive to non-asian moids, pretty much moids of any race/class/group do this. Black moids will say white moids are bigoted and too feminine, white moids will say black moids are too aggressive and impure. It's not our of a genuine care for your safety, it's just a way to make sure you stay exclusive to them

No. 2527568

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>>2527563
I think she is correct that men are unusually chimping out about Asian moids lately but I think it's because of the sudden popularity of East Asian media, men realizing that a lot of the men in that media are skinny, youthful looking 'prettyboys' not the geriatric roidpigs they try to shill, and also just because they were used to thinking of Asian men as uncool losers who were definitely not going to steal women from them (which is funny, because Asian men were popular among women where I lived in the early 2000s and onwards too). I remember moids used to repost all these articles wherever they used to post things back in 2005-2015 about how 'there is an Asian masculinity crisis' 'women don't understand that Asian men are hot and don't give them a chance' etc. Especially after OKCupid released their 'studies' on online dating statistics. So most other moids just felt like 'okay, at least I'm not a Chinese or Korean guy who women will not even notice at all' but now that they're 35 and bald and fat women are opting for thin, thick-haired Asian moids over them and it's really upsetting their whole life plan. Picrel is from 10 years ago when the seething moids probably still had their hair.

No. 2527610

>>2527556
>Around 7% of US population is Asian
>Around a third of that is East Asian
>Around half of that is male
>Around half of that is second-generation Asians who will marry in America
>Around three-quarters of that will actually get married
>Around a third of that will marry interracially
>Around half of that have a sister
>Around a third of that will date interracially
Or, you know, anon's just lying.

No. 2527628

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>>2526890
>>2526986
>if you look at the rates of VAW in East Asian countries they're very high
>one of the cultures with the worst VAW rates
Why are you fucking lying?

No. 2527651

>>2527610
7% of the US population is 25 million. Not crazy odds.

No. 2527667

>>2527610
Not everyone lives in the US and different cities even within the US have different demographics. Where I live (not my city but the region of the city I live and work in), about 30% of the population is East Asian, about 30% is white, and about 30% is south/west Asian or North African. White/Asian couples are very common here, almost as common as White/White or Asian/Asian couples, just off the top of my head two of my next door neighbors and at least 5 of my friends are in Asian/White couples (some of them married, some not). I myself dated several Asian men in the past and one of them had a sister in a LTR with a white man. What she's saying therefore does not sound very implausible to me at all, especially since these traits aren't equally distributed. For example, an asian family where one sibling is able to date interracially with the parents' approval is more likely to have multiple siblings who date (or are 'allowed' by their parents to date) interracially, and if you live in a city like Vancouver where about 40% of the population is white and 40% is East Asian the odds are actually pretty good. If you and your sibling both attended a university program that has a lot of East Asians in it, again, high chance of multiple siblings dating white people at some point. Seems like a weird hill to die on to accuse her of lying about something plausible just to prove some very minor point.

No. 2527682

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>>2527628
You wrongly quoted the post, I actually said that (combined)
>if you look at the rates of VAW, sexual assault, prostitution and cheating in East Asian countries they're very high.
When you're looking for a partner hopefully you're not just interrogating his attitudes about beating or raping women, but also about relationship fidelity, whether he would be happy for you to work after marriage, etc. VAW/sex crimes are also extremely underprosecuted in some of these countries. In SK for instance, academics in SK cite numbers significantly higher than 17%, see picrel. Source: https://archive.is/gqTST
>Last March, Yoon Suk-yeol was elected president on a wave of male resentment. He pledged to abolish the country’s Ministry of Gender Equality and Family, which he said treated men like “potential sex criminals.” And he blamed feminism for the country’s low birth rate, suggesting that it “prevents healthy relationships between men and women,” adding that this was “not a problem that can be solved by giving out government subsidies.”
>According to exit polls, nearly 59 percent of men ages 18 to 29 voted for Yoon, while 58 percent of women in that age group voted for the liberal candidate. One commentator declared it the “incel election.” Several people noted to me that in a country as ethnically homogenous as South Korea, the election emphasized the extent to which gender, rather than race or immigration status, has become the key social fault line.

Rape isn't defined by non-consent in SK, unlike most other OECD countries, but by actual injurious force, so rape is likely widely underreported since it is defined much more narrowly. There are also extremely punishing anti-false-report laws. From FP:
>At the heart of the controversy is a 1953 law that defines rape on the basis of physical violence, not lack of consent. The switch from coercion-based to consent-based rape law has been adopted in recent decades by several countries, mostly in Europe, reflecting United Nations guidelines that favor the latter. Feminists in South Korea have been trying to reform the law for years, but their efforts have created a sense of panic among some men who believe it would result in a flood of false allegations of rape.
>“This is a law aimed at killing men,” wrote one commentator on FMKorea, a prominent right-wing website popular among young men.

But it's not just rape/VAW, prostitution is normalized and cheating levels are extremely high, upskirt photos and spycams are an epidemic, SK has the highest gender pay gap and worst female working conditions in the OECD according to HRW:
>Discrimination against women and girls is widespread in South Korea. The gender pay gap, at 31 percent, is the widest among countries that belong to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). South Korea has been consistently ranked by The Economist as having the worst working environment for women among the 29 advanced economies it analyzes.
Even though women in SK are more educated than men, they are basically expected to quit work if they get married, and are stigmatized/mistreated at work if they do not. I have multiple female Korean friends who moved to North America largely because of the severe sexism in SK and who refuse to date Korean men entirely. Japan has similar issues with prostitution, they basically had legal pedophilia until recently and still have culturally normalized loli hentai and child idols, hostess clubs, etc.

Anyway kind of a derail, I'm not saying no one should date East Asian men, but if you do date them just keep in mind that some of these cultural attitudes may still be ingrained in them. I agree that East Asian moids tend to be hotter, age better, bald less, and often be more conscientious about work/education, but you shouldn't trust stats from an extremely sexist government/country purely on their say-so either. Really a moid not being ugly and not balding is probably a good sign overall but you should thoroughly vet individual men by their behaviour and attitudes and actions/character, not just assume that they're not raging misogynists because they come from a culture that puts more emphasis on politeness and 'saving face.' The Hallyu industry in SK and all the Netflix Kdramas are aimed at making the country look good, and they were smart to do so by prioritizing putting hot young chivalrous men in their media (Hollywood doesn't even bother and is fine with depicting depraved, walled scrotes) but this also isn't exactly representative. Almost the entire male cast of Squid Game 2 are either convicted or accused abusers of women, and it's one of the most popular Asian shows internationally. I think it's good that Chinese and Korean media don't engage in the ugly man psyop and try to make women settle for hideous moids, but they are definitely trying to get their birthrates up and get women to settle for moids by romanticizing dating and marriage (and moids in general). It's just done in a slightly different way.

No. 2527705

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>>2527045
Not really

No. 2527756

>>2526940
How the fuck is this racebait?

No. 2527761

>>2527405
The average white american guy build
>fat despite not being able to get pregnant
>bald
>pedophile attire: cargo shorts, sandals (extra points for ashy feet), dumb shirt
>poor posture
>stupid f150 truck to make up for a lack of personality and low self-esteem

No. 2527762

>>2527242
Female chess players asked for a separate league because of how badly they were get harassed by moids in the open league. Women are still free to compete in the open but most don't because it's still very much sexist. Chess scrotes are the most insufferable autists imaginable and hate to see women doing well or enjoying the sport.

No. 2527765

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>>2527610
It's not that difficult to date and marry asian guys as a non-asian woman nona. Maybe you're doing something wrong

No. 2527766

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this is just more proof that ugly on the inside = ugly on the outside. two brothers, two actors, aged VERY differently. hyde from that 70s show was never really attractive in the first place and he was also a serial rapist. he got sentenced to 30 years in prison. he looks absolutely putrid these days. his brother is francis from malcolm in the middle and he was attractive 25 years ago and he is attractive today! unproblematic king

No. 2527772

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No. 2527774

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>>2527766
kek reminds me of this

No. 2527778

>>2527772
A crime against humanity

No. 2527783

>>2527682
Now let's see the VAW rates for US and other western countries

No. 2527784

>>2527705
>taking a tiktok skit as reality

No. 2527786

>>2527783
This like I honestly dont give a shit about these 'stats' anyway. All I know is that in Asia the only men I really have to watch my back around are the foreign men. I never felt scared in Hong Kong, except from the starey Indian moids who ruin the place. I can walk down the street in Seoul or Beijing and know for a fact that nobody is going to pull me down an alleyway and rape me or rob me at gunpoint. I listerally can't say that for any US city or town, big or small, and that's depressing.

No. 2527788

>>2527667
People lie on the internet all the time. Give them an inch, they take a mile.

No. 2527789

>>2527682
I've never dated Korean men. They always came across very perverted, forward and rude on language apps. I've only ever dated someone from Hong Kong, a Half-Tajik-Half Chinese, and a Mongolian. The best Asian bf I ever had was the Mongolian dude but tbf he was very westernized, high IQ, his whole family were extremely well educated and wealthy, he also had a degree from an Ivy League school.

No. 2527791

File: 1747573468258.mp4 (3.12 MB, 404x720, 1747562094611674.mp4)

even the normies are waking up

No. 2527805

>>2527756
Some yellow fever whore reports anyone that says anything mean about her precious scrotes and then mods ban without even looking at what they're banning(bait)

No. 2527806

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No. 2527811

>>2527805
YWNBAW(scrotefoiling)

No. 2527821

>>2527766
>he was also a serial rapist. he got sentenced to 30 years in prison
What the fuck? I must have been living under a rock. I did not know about this.

No. 2527828

No more ugly man threadpics. Threadpic is actively assaulting my eyes.

No. 2527863

>>2527045
>>2527784
48% of Japanese men have slept with prostitutes. Let me not bring up their normalized child exploitation.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11347242/
I'm begging you guys to listen to Japanese, Chinese and South Korean feminists instead of looking for a new demographic of men to praise every time.

No. 2527870

>>2527863
I'm surprised anyone still trusts SK men after the Nth Room incident, putting hidden cameras in bathrooms, etc. There's a reason why korean feminists are more 'extreme' compared to western ones

No. 2527872

>>2527863
They're too deep in the kpoop and seiyuu mines. Some retards just have to learn from experience

No. 2527894

>>2527870
>>2527863
Yeah why the hell are people falling for any moid race being good? They are all awful.

No. 2527935

>>2527682
This is irrelevant because most women here are talking about Asians in the west. Women don’t passport bro

No. 2527938

>>2527705
Street interviews are not representative of the whole country

No. 2527977

>>2527870
Americans do that all the time, only it's not as transparent because American feminists would rather defend trannies. Just look at this scrotechan thread.
https://boards.4chan.org/gif/thread/28833992

No. 2527986

>But Americans this–
>But Asians that–

They're all awful. Fixed that for you.

No. 2527995

>>2527863
The study you linked explains that they were looking at services besides prostitution. The actual rate of bona fide prostitution is much lower.

No. 2528002

>>2527986
But what else will anons fight about for half a thread? Ugly male psyops?

No. 2528004

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>>2527977
Western feminists say that prostitution i mean sex work is work, and getting plastic surgery, wearing makeup, being financially dependent on a moid and any is empowering as long as it's your choice and if you disagree you're the misogynist. Even looking at kpoop, whenever a male idol gets in a scandal for acting the way a typical trashy moid of that culture would that east asian women have experience with, western fans defend them like martyrs like the scrote is gonna kill himself if he doesn't date and call the east asian fans femcels, as if the selling point of a male idol isn't to act like a boyfriend to fans and western fans tooootally don't consume it that way, they don't like the guy because he's good looking! They're in it for the music and talent both shart btw unlike those delusional femcels fans!

No. 2528007

>>2527986
>>2528002
I don't think anons were fighting? There were some disagreements but overall everyone laid out their points and linked sources. Honestly sometimes i use this thread like i would a pink pill/feminist thread. 2X is dead and there isn't anything women central enough in /ot/. We need more male critical threads on /ot/ to scare off the invading tradfags on this site.

No. 2528010

>>2527058
It's scary how angry they get over a fucking game.
The one time I've won a race in GTA against some moids I used to play with, this one moid got so mad at me he ragequit the game. Mind you, this was a moid in his 20s. The other time he got mad at me was during an event (can't remember which one) and I was about to win, he couldn't take that and tried to kill my character until the time was up. Like, it's a stupid fucking game, why are you so mad about it?? What pissed me off the most though that he was ugly and his gf was genuinely beautiful and talented. Why did she pick him of all the scrotes she could have had?? I hate it when beautiful women pick men who are UGLY, not even average. FULL ON UGLY.

No. 2528012

>>2527399
>I'm sick of women using me and abusing me and taking my money!
Well manlet, you don't have to worry about dating women at all because they're definitely not gonna want you now.

No. 2528014

>>2528007
>2X is dead and there isn't anything women central enough in /ot/. We need more male critical threads on /ot/ to scare off the invading tradfags on this site.
I really hate this. Anything more radical gets banned from ot and when you express certain ideas in blackpill/pinkpill thread you get banned even there. I feel like there's way less online space for such discussions than before

No. 2528015

>>2528014
I've been saying there's a tranny, kiwi scrote or a handmaiden on the mod team

No. 2528032

>>2527935
This is what the study says:
>Approximately half of Japanese men aged 20–49 years have paid for sex, including call services, erotic massages and oral sex.
Paid sex is prostitution. "Erotic massages don't count" is weird libfem cum cucked housewife mentality. At no point does the study claim that these services "do not count as" prostitution. There are entire districts in Japan reserved for brothels where businessmen can be "discreet". "Much lower" my ass.

No. 2528035

>>2528015
There's both trannies and mods with 4chan boyfriends who let them take the wheel for good girl points.

No. 2528044

>>2528014
I got banned from there for simply saying that I think oral sex performed on men is degrading and that men will always see it as such (and I'm not the BJ chan spergy). If you get banned from there for such basic bp takes then it's truly over

No. 2528045

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>>2528032
>What is already known on this topic
Based off prior research with flawed methodology

No. 2528054

>>2527977
Why tf are you browsing a 4chan porn board? And then linking it here like anyone's going to be stupid enough to open it?

No. 2528063

>>2528045
>In total, sex work comprises a multitrillion yen industry in Japan and up to 1% of the country’s gross national product.
You cannot escape the prostitution problem in Japan. Not a single reputable source disputes it as a widespread, tangible issue. There is no "much lower" or excuse to be had when discussing Japan and its sexual exploitation problem.

No. 2528132

>>2528063
>sex work comprises a multitrillion yen industry in Japan
How much of that is simply pornography and adult videos?

No. 2528153

>>2527762
Sexism isn't the only reason we continue to have female chess, there's very good practical reasons too (having female invite-only competitions helps preserve your rating if you aren't rated high enough to join the general invite-only competitions, compared to going to open competitions where much lower-rated players compete), lower stereotype threat, and other reasons besides. It's just unfortunate when people who don't even care about a sport/activity start calling something that women themselves achieved 'sexist' because 'it implies (something dumb)' kek. And most male chess enthusiasts actually watch women's chess competitions avidly, unlike most women's sports, so this was a really bad example if anons wanted to prove moids can never respect women.

>>2527766
I wouldn't exactly say the moid on the bottom is attractive (he's ugly imo) but he has aged better, that's for sure. The rapist has always been hideous, on That 70s Show I just thought of him as 'the ugly one and that's saying a lot considering the whole cast was ugly.

>>2527783
They're lower for the most part. That's why women move from those countries to Western countries to escape sexism and violence. Not sure about Japan, but China and SK for sure.

>>2527786
Your chance of random stranger crime is indeed higher in the US, but when you're looking for dating partners you're not looking to date strange criminals, you want to know if the moid you're dating will hurt you or disrespect you.

>>2527788
Okay but this is something so likely that there's no point in accusing her of lying, just makes the accuser look schizo.

>>2527789
I've dated a Korean Man (very emotionally abusive, repressed, controlling), a Korean-American man (he was OK) briefly, and my friends who have dated Chinese/Taiwanese/HK men seem to like them a lot better than anyone I know who has dated Korean men kek. I've never even met a Mongolian. I had a mutual crush on a Taiwanese man at some point and he treated me the best by far but it didn't turn into a longer relationship so I can't say he wouldn't have been crazy, but I don't think so. They were all well educated but meeting well educated moids is easy enough if you live in a big city, it's all the other shit you have to control for.



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