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No. 2561453
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No. 2561461
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Green apple is the worst candy flavor and lime is the best.
No. 2561466
My unpopular opinion: I don't care when shrimp aren't de-veined. I think it's cringe when people act disgusted by the vein. It reminds me of picky eaters.
>>2561461I don't like when you think you're biting into something lime flavored but it turns out to be green apple flavored. Green should always be citrus. Red should always be cherry and never strawberry.
No. 2561476
>>2561461The only green apple flavor I can remember is green apple Jolly Ranchers which were breddy gud nonna idk what you're on about.
Citrus is a dime a dozen.
No. 2561489
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I don't understand why people are so against the idea of prostitution. Now, to be clear, there are lots of things wrong with the actual practice of prostitution, like it's dangerous, or it oppresses economically disadvantaged and vulnerable women, etc. But none of those are essential to the principle of prostitution. I'm talking about the very basic idea of buying and selling sex. I don't see why people are against it.
The only real argument I find against prostitution, is that sex itself is wrong. If premarital or extramarital sex is wrong, it's obvious why prostitution is wrong. But if you think premarital sex can be okay, then you should think prostitution can be okay too.
No. 2561494
>>2561489Nonny i dont believe in premarital sex. I dont believe in marriage and i think its a scam. So to me, prostitution is bad because you shouldnt be able to buy something that should be earned through human decency and being an acceptable mate. That premarital bullshit doesnt even compare to the misogyny and degenerecy of prostitution.
Your unpopular opinion is gross. But you are entitlted to it.
My unpopular opinion is that puppies are actually the worst stage of a dogs life and they are way more enjoyable as slight senior dogs. And that is why i dont own dogs.
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I want two internets. One internet is the male internet. The main internet is the female internet. Moids get shafted to their shitty internet full of making deepfakes of each other and goading each other into suicide. Female internet can be somewhere I can chill out and relax.
No. 2561508
>>2561500>you have no business coercing them into doing it via monetary compensationIf I offered you a million dollars to eat a cockroach, is it coercion? You don't want to eat it for free, but you want to eat it for money. I'm not making you eat the cockroach.
Similarly:
>If you have sex with someone who does not want to have sex with you, that's wrong.That someone doesn't want to have sex for free, but does want to have sex for money.
Remember, this is a hypothetical prostitute who isn't in need of money.
No. 2561515
>>2561508The most vulnerable and primal act between two humans is not remotely comparable to eating a cockroach. A cockroach doesn’t have a face, won’t give me any diseases, can’t rape me, can’t overpower or violate me in any way.
>hypothetical prostituteThat’s the thing. Prostitution doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Sex doesn’t exist in a vacuum. We don’t even know what a world would look like where “healthy” prostitution exists because men love rape. Why is she prostituting herself if she doesn’t need money? The only men who buy sex are power tripping rapists, uglies, and betas. No sane, self-loving woman would ever want to have sex with that. What amount of money would make you say yes to being humped by a fat ugly disease ridden 60 year old man? If prostitution isn’t so bad then why don’t more men go into the sex industry?
No. 2561519
>>2561515Nta but you can absolutely get diseases from cockroaches
nonnie.
No. 2561521
>>2561515>won’t give me any diseases, can’t rape me, can’t overpower or violate me in any wayYou don't understand. I'm not talking about real prostitution. I'm talking about an ideal prostitution, where it's just normal sex in exchange for money.
>Prostitution doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Sex doesn’t exist in a vacuum. I know it doesn't. I'm not talking about prostitution in real life. I'm talking about the PRINCIPLE of prostitution.
No. 2561531
>>2561526I just mean sex that has nothing bad to it. No STDs, no unwanted pregnancies, everyone's consenting, everyone enjoys it.
>inb4 that's not normalWhat I really meant was sex that's not bad.
No. 2561551
>>2561548Yes. She enjoyed getting paid, so she enjoyed it somewhat.
Now, do you agree with what she does?
No. 2561569
>>2561558So you believe that if a man and a woman enter into a sexual relationship, the man should not be allowed to break up with the woman and cause her to suffer.
This is why it's good to wait until marriage. If you have sex before marriage, he can dump you very easily and cause you to suffer. And since most bf/gf relationships end, that is the likely outcome. If you wait until marriage, then he cannot break up with you easily, so harmful moids will not try to pump and dump you.
No. 2561581
>>2561569Nta but yes. Too many moids use the threats of breaking up to manipulate or break up just because they enjoy getting off on the woman being sad. The scrote shouldn't be hung per se but the reason for the break up needs to go through court and be approved similar to an eviction
>This is why it's good to wait until marriage.Lol
This has been tried throughout history and failed. All it accomplishes is unmarried people trying weird/stupid sex tactics (like soaking or anal) and then if it turns out the couple is sexually incompatible the marriage fails. Also couples who do this end up rushing into marriage to have sex and then the woman is stuck paying all the divorce fees, the time and money it takes to get her own place, etc as if the fee from marriage wasn't already enough. Also if a woman is injured the man can make medical decisions and all kinds of fucked up shit towards her. Moids shouldn't be able to break up with women so easily but forcing women into marriage just to have sex has never been proven to ever been a good thing in history
No. 2561624
>>2561622>if I end up not liking himWhy have sex with a moid you're not sure you like? That's just asking for trouble.
>I'd rather just leave freelyIf you give a moid your virginity, that also makes it hard to leave freely. Better to wait, to make sure you don't end up hating him.
No. 2561625
>>2561508Sex is not a simple physical act that can be compared to anything else. Unwanted sex is rape, unwanted cockroaches are just unwanted cockroaches. A prostitute wants money, not sex, so paying her for sex is still rape. If you don't want to be a rapist, hand the money over instead of exchanging it for sex. The only exceptions to this would be like, a woman who has a fetish for being a prostitute and is aroused by being paid, or is particularly into a John and would've fucked him for free, and those are silly scenarios.
You need to stop framing this as a problem of what women will and won't allow. There are a million reasons a woman might prostitute herself, might convince herself she's happy with it, might genuinely be happy with it. It's irrelevant. The problem is a matter of what sex buyers do - which is pay to have sex with a woman who he KNOWS would not fuck him otherwise. That's a man who is paying for the opportunity to rape a woman, for her silence afterwards, for a lack of legal recourse against him.
No. 2561629
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>>2561625So is this rape? Because the wife doesn't want to give the guy a blowjob for free, but will do it for compensation.
I say it's not rape. Likewise, a woman can have sex for money without it being rape.
No. 2561633
>>2561629I mean, if that man can tell his wife doesn't want to have sex with him but is just reluctantly putting up with it because it's the only way to get him to do chores, then yeah. It's not legally rape but it's rape in spirit.
It's seriously not that complex, if someone doesn't enthusiastically want to have sex with you, then why would you have sex with them? Only a rapist would want to do that. I would never fuck a guy who didn't want to fuck me, I know it's impossible for men to comprehend this but that's because most of them are perfectly happy to rape women.
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>>2561633>if someone doesn't enthusiastically want to have sex with you, then why would you have sex with them?To be honest, the woman looks very enthusiastic with this exchange.
No. 2561643
>>2561631I mean sure i get that for many is a memorable experience but i've also heard many say they didn't care for it much.
>They'll always remember the first woman they've had sex with and will compare you to her.Maybe it's because i'm not male-centered like the majority of your argument but i don't really care what moids think just what i can get out of him
No. 2561649
>>2561638Daddy is indeed a rapist if he wears his poor suffering wife down to the point she participates in sex acts she doesn't want to just to get a break from doing everything. Men nagging, cajoling, and manipulating women to get sex is
abusive rapist behaviour. It's just so insanely common and normalized that people aren't ready to accept it as rape, they want to save the word 'rape' for violent back alley stranger danger. I don't think it necessarily is rape in a legal sense, but in an emotional sense and in terms of how I would pass judgement on the man, it's rape.
>>2561642She looks unhinged and dead behind the eyes, you can't for a minute think that's a photo of her being sexually aroused at the thought of giving that pathetic manchild a BJ.
No. 2561665
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>>2561660What about this.
>I would have sex with you for free. You're willing to pay me $100 to have sex with me. I take the $100 and have sex with you.Is this wrong?
No. 2561676
>>2561665Nonsensical scenario that doesn't play out in real life, most of the time it looks like
>>2561660. Even in your utopia where prostitution is somehow ethical, why would you offer them money? Why bring money into this?
No. 2561677
>>2561672you would pay to get nsa or exact sex acts and to dictate the terms, it would be theoretically consensual but not mutually dictated
>>2561674it's exploitation
No. 2561684
>>2561672Sure anon, if a woman really wanted to fuck a guy but insisted that he pay her for it, and he somehow knew she really wanted to fuck him despite the request for money, but was willing to pay for it regardless, then it's not particularly rapey. It's just not something that really happens.
The only scenario I could think of where it might, is if a universally desirable/attractive man (say a celebrity) pays prostitutes for discretion and convenience despite the fact they'd happily have sex with him for free. But of course, the assurance of secrecy just means he can get away with being
abusive, violent or degrading, so then we circle back to the practical issues with prostitution rather than the theoretical ethics of it.
No. 2561685
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>>2561676>>2561677>>2561680>>2561682Suppose you had five sexy men who want to have sex with you, and you wanted to have sex with all of them. But you could only pick one to have sex with. So you say, "I'll have sex with the one who'll give me the most money!"
Is that wrong?
No. 2561690
>>2561685Are they all offering money or just one of them?
Is it just a one night stand or are you getting into a relationship with them?
Either way… why bring money into this?
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>>2561690The offers are:
>$10, $100, $1000, $10000, $100000Who do you pick?
>why bring money into this?picrel
No. 2561716
>>2561707Thank you so much
nonnie I will invite you to our wedding (I propose after our first night and he cries because he never thought he was worthy of marriage until I asked him)
No. 2561718
>>2561713I don't think you understand how women, sex, relationships, or human interaction work.
>>2561716You're the most radiant bride I've ever seen nonnerella. I look forward to many happy years between you two!
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>>2561718It's you who doesn't understand human natire.
No. 2561724
>>2561721Hush now, we're being happy for
nonny and her gigolo LADS husbando right now.
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>>2561721more like human neighture amirite??
No. 2561730
>>2561721this is a thought experiment and it's nonsense. Thirst is prioritised over hunger because you can last longer hungry than you can thirsty. Sometimes people get their thirst signals confused for hunger.
Are you personally attracted to men or other people, do you know what sexual attraction feels like?
No. 2561739
>>2561730You've never been paralyzed with indecision before?
>>2561733But which one first?
No. 2561759
>>2561757And specifically for that it opens the door to abus , human trafficking, exploitation. Prostitution is nothing but paid rape.
The very fact that males prostitutes are so few and are mainly used by other scrotes is the writing on the wall of how big of a sham this industry is, it’s nothing but a factory for the abuse of women.
No. 2561762
>>2561508Eating a cockroach isn’t the same. If I offered you a million to torture you would be the right analogy here.
If I wanted to waterboard you, use pins on you, beat you up, do sleep deprivation would you want it? No.
No. 2561769
>>2561757>Placing money on something that is supposed to be mutual just makes it unbalanced and coerced.Yeah, so it's no different than getting pumped and dumped.
>>2561762If getting tortured for five minutes will earn me a million dollars, I'd do it.
>>2561765It's called philosophy.
>>2561767>It's a safer option if you have a lower standard for your marriage than a relationship. That doesn't make any sense. A marriage has higher standards.
No. 2561773
>>2561769No one will admit it but people are more willing to accept hiccups later on in a marriage than a relationship. You catch your bf watching porn? Easy, get your stuff and go. You catch your husband of 10 years watching porn. Find a divorce lawyer, court fees, family issues if children are involved, living arrangements, etc. most people don't want to do all that so will just accept bad behavior from men because of how difficult it is to leave
>But but just marry a man who won'tNever ever 100% guarantee. Knowing him for 2 years isn't guaranteed to know who he truly is, knowing him for 10 or even 20 years isn't guaranteed he won't change or anything. We need women to be prepared
in case these situations happened rather than just insisting you can just "choose harder" and men will never ever conceal their flaws for years
No. 2561781
>>2561775This is exactly like all the women in my family, their husbands will be lazy, porn addicts, etc but they'll just look the other way and tell everyone how happily married they are and that they totally choose the right one
I always wonder what would happen if divorce wasn't so expensive, single motherhood wasn't so looked down upon, etc
No. 2561789
>>2561785>Your husband was watching porn? Well you should've ~infleunced~ him not tooHoly
victim blaming Batman. Sure not only make it harder for women to leave but also make it seem like the actions of moids are all their fault for "influencing"
No. 2561790
>>2561643Is it weird that I don't remember much about losing my virginity? Like I have a vague recollection (and it was a good, non-traumatic experience) but it wasn't some life-changing event and I don't even have a particularly vivid memory of it. I also constantly forget my first kiss and have to think really hard to remember who even was the first person I kissed kek (well, the first person I kissed for real. My first kiss was some boy in kindergarten I kissed on a dare on the bus and I actually remember that but it was a peck).
>>2561649I agree with this. And this
>>2561660>>2561662I don't agree that housewifes are prostitutes, because in most normal marriage money is pooled and does not belong to a specific person. In a two-income household if the husband suddenly lost his job and the wife picked up the slack for a while it wouldn't be prostitution either. I think some housewives are essentially engaging in prostitution, because many trad relationships are transactional, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the case. House work is also work and work many people would pay someone to do, so splitting responsibilities in a household can make financial sense and the money should be seen as equally both people's money. This only works in a healthy relationship though where there isn't a 'my money, your money' attitude. Unfortunately many relationships are not healthy/equal though so many housewives do essentially end up being prostitutes. But there are also housewives who don't have sex at all with their husbands, so that's something to consider.
No. 2561801
>>2561782Forced roommates like college roommates in dorms are actually a different situation, I'm kind of against dorms. I only support roommate situations where you can choose the roommate, and break the lease (ideally, I know in practice it's difficult sometimes) if things aren't working out. But someone can bully you in situations where you aren't living together too, like a boss, work colleague, schoolmate, family member, etc. So I don't see how saving a ton of money is the one situation where bullying would be the worst.
>>2561784Wait what is the situation of a landlord picking your roommates? That's not how roommate situations work where I live, you find roommates yourself. Landlords can't pick roommates for you, that would require a separate lease for each room of an apartment which I think is illegal unless it's marketed as a dorm. I am against dorms.
>It is hard to find all-female housing. Maybe this is a geographical thing. I have known probably literally hundreds of women who lived in all-female housing. If it's actually impossible where you live then I think it's reasonable not to want mixed-sex roommate situations.
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how do you even begin to explain these stats if women aren't actively dating the same/older males?
No. 2561829
>>2561808Why would you live with boomers and gen X? Most roommate situations for young people come about because they are in college or post-college and are low on money, and typically such people find other people their same age (and of their own sex, in most situations) to share the financial burden with. I'm a younger millennial and the stealing/accusing of stealing situation happened to like two people I knew once, out of hundreds of people I knew who had roommates for many years.
>as roommates are being normalized regardless of class They're not though, that was the whole point of my unpopular opinion. Roommates are being de-normalized with the younger generation that's in their 20s now. Roommates were the absolute default norm for Gen X and Millennials, but roommate situations are increasingly being treated as some weird out-there thing. When I see discussions of frugal finances or just of how expensive life is, I often see people talking about the cost of a single-bedroom apartment for one person, and how prohibitive it is. When I was in my early to mid twenties absolutely no one except people with very wealthy families ever considered getting a one-bedroom apartment for themselves.
>>2561818I'm against it for the reason stated in the post I was responding to. I don't think a landlord should have control over who you live with or should be able to spring moids on you last-minute or whatever other weird situations where you don't know who you're going to be living with. It seems exploitative and dangerous to sign and be bound to a lease with no knowledge or control over who you will be living with. I don't think it should be illegal I guess but I'd understand why people would avoid that situation as it seems non-ideal to me, however a situation where you know who you'll be living with in advance and can meet/talk, establish ground rules etc. beforehand seems much better.
No. 2561836
>>2561829Definitely not even close to my roommate search. Maybe if you live near a college, but if you don't nearly all roommate searches are older people.
I've definitely seen an increase of people I would consider middle class though seek roommates, housing simply isn't matching wages, while I wouldn't consider them lower income they just can't keep up with the housing market
No. 2561848
>>2561834A smartphone costs like $150-200 though, whereas not living with roommates will almost double your cost of rent or force you to stay living with your parents though. Huge difference. And people have only come to expect living alone by default within the last 10 or so years. There was no prior time where this was a default expectation.
>>2561836If the only people you ever find searching for roommates are people 65+ years old then it seems like this is specifically due to zoomers being averse to roommates. This was never the norm in the past, unless you are one of the only young people living in a retirement village. Just goes to show that young people being averse to living with roommates ends up harming other young people.
No. 2561854
>>2561851Not sure what community college has to do with it but living out of a car seems significantly worse (and, I'm pretty sure, way more rare - I've never met anyone who lives in a vehicle) than just living in an apartment or house with one or multiple other people.
Also regarding 'roommate searches' I forgot to say in my last post that the most common way to find roommates was to live with people you know. Of course sometimes that didn't work out but most roommate situations I knew of were people who knew each other beforehand and got a bigger place together to split cost. I'm not sure why that would suddenly become rare especially as housing costs have gone up compared to income.
No. 2561861
>>2561856AYRT and this is the part that bothers me the most. It's one thing to just have a better alternative or be from a rich family and decide to live by yourself but I keep hearing more and more people who aren't even in the place financially to live alone expressing sentiments like 'it's below me to live with other people' or 'it would be embarrassing' or 'it's just too big an ask for me to have to coexist with others' while they can't afford to do otherwise and bankrupt themselves, e-beg, emotionally blackmail family members, just refuse to pay rent and wait for eviction, etc. I guess I'm slightly too old for the cutoff of when this attitude started because it was always seen as extremely normal and not embarrassing in my age cohort to have roommates - in fact it was usually viewed positively, as something fun and a normal stepping stone to adulthood, to the point I knew plenty of people who had the finances to live alone but chose to live with roommates instead - but suddenly I see so much rhetoric about how it's degrading or embarrassing or impossible somehow.
>>2561858It doesn't have to be a deep friendship though and you don't need to share a deep bond to coexist in a roommate situation. It could just be a classmate or acquaintance and you set down ground rules beforehand that will minimize conflict. Most people have survived many years of living with parents, who in many cases can be demanding, frustrating to live with or even
abusive, so living with a classmate or casual friend where you've laid down ground rules should at least be easier or similarly easy to living with parents.
No. 2561865
>>2561832I think it's this too. Stats consistently show that the vast majority of relationships are age-matched within 2 years, and most of the remainder are within a 4-5 year difference, so the huge discrepancy between the 63% and 34% in 18-29 can't be explained by age gap relationships. I'm almost certain it's explained by moids claiming they're not in a relationship while their gfs probably consider themselves in a relationship. Moids are sneaky that way.
The age gap hypothesis also doesn't make sense for the 18-29 bracket because there's a lot more men in the 30-49 bracket who say they're single too. So if this was due to age gaps you would have to believe that half of under-30 women were dating moids 50+ which is just not realistic at all.
No. 2561881
>>2561880First AYRT and I'm saying the nonna in this post
>>2561838 was saying you shouldn't accept moid 'fuck-ups' (implying not just 'slight errors') and that not being married makes it easier to leave a moid who mistreats you, which is true. Being married makes it much harder to leave a moid.
No. 2561895
>>2561889if true the zoomer f / milllenial m could be sugar babying or OF. Zoomer girls seem to love sugar baby coquette shit.
>>2561890older in the meme = gen X, I think.
No. 2561897
>>2561895Gen X moids dating zoomer women is disappearingly rare kek. That's like 45+yo scrotes dating women in their 20s.
Zoomer girls dating millennial moids are probably not, for the most part, sugar babies, since millennial moids are pretty poor on average. Some zoomer women date millennial moids (especially older zoomer + younger millennial) because they can be close in age, and relationships with 4-6 year age gaps are not ultra-uncommon, and moids in their early to mid thirties can still be relatively attractive, but most of these are just regular relationships. My millennial moid friend (32yo) is about to marry a zoomer woman who is 28-29yo, that is probably where most of the zoomer woman + millennial moid relationships are playing out, with 2-4 year age differences.
No. 2561923
I know people here want to hate on porn, but what actually irks me is how nearly all of it is targeted for males, is so plentiful, well organized, curated and high quality, with every niche endlessly filled to the brim by countless pick-mes and artists, with all sorts of media covered, from games to music videos passing by ASMR/roleplays, even AI slop is all male-gazey by default, but when you're looking for anything close to appealing for women, best you can do is dig for scraps in a haystack
it's like the assumption about women who watch porn is that they have to basically be watching themselves get degraded on screen
No. 2561948
>>2561887Not true. People tend to date people their age. Even the women I know who are dating older are at most dating five years older. I’m 22 by the way.
I feel like you really have to be mentally ill to date a 35 year old grandpa when you are that young.
No. 2561979
>>2561975At most he would find me reading fanfictions from time to time , but I’m not embarrassed by that kek.
I also feel like women are mostly embarrassed, it’s not like they have much to hide, maybe it’s chats with husbandos . But when a scrote is territorial about his phone he is fishy, he’s 100% cheating.
No. 2562005
>>2561993You're so right. I noticed this with shows in general. Every show created from 2010 onwards is absolute trash and has no substance at all. It's all lul ruhndom shit. The few ok-ish ones are adaptations of old running media out there rather than original, but even then, the new trends of lazy ugly animation, CGI, sets, actors, costumes, set design, directing, and filmography are all so butt ugly and unwatchable. You can literally see the green screens and the SFX, you can tell it's fake and it takes you out of the immersion. Everything is so lazy and unfinished for some reason. Music wise, weren't there studies about how music quality did dip in the past 20 years or something?
No. 2562227
Tate McRae isn’t really a good dancer. Even kpop idols from f list groups dance better than her.
No. 2562266
>>2562020The only polycule I knew personally fell apart when a baby was conceived. One of the women in it was unable to conceive. She'd kinda come to terms with it and chose the poly life to fill the void with an alternative sense of family. New woman to enter the polyfuck gets pregnant by happy accident, fast. The woman who couldn't have kids admitted herself to hospital feeling suicidal and they basically excommunicated her while she was stuck in the hospital, threw all her stuff away. Bu-bye founding member of the poly group. Others found out and got pissed.
I just hope the 'couple' didn't end up assembling another polycule to surround that baby with. Chances are they did. Idk how you stop babies happening when these people aren't known for being great at making life decisions. And are impulsive.
No. 2562281
>>2562236You’re close to getting it but not quite there. It’s more like “let’s make it insanely difficult to escape the poverty trap to incentivize young people to sell their bodies for the delusion of freedom (military for boys, sex trade for girls)”
Were it not for economic factors, the overwhelming majority of people wouldn’t go into either of those situations and that’s not an accident.
No. 2562347
>>2562339If
I ever got to the point in life where my partner thought this was necessary to make me do chores, I'd kill myself out of shame. How moids can live with themselves is beyond me.
No. 2562551
>>2562526I used to think of pick-mes as a specific type of woman, that exaggeratedly wants male validation and attention while putting other women down. To me, pick-meism is done with the intention of being a pick-me, while other women don't have the intention of looking after male's validation while putting other women down. I'm not sure, i have the feeling that calling common women pick mes is just a way of putting other women down just because you think by being a radfem you have more dignity.
>>2562533Not bad faith exactly, but it does seem very strange when you write what she believes. I think that the word pick me diminishes women that don't know that they are living in misoginy and somehow puts the fault on them, as pick mes are often girls that intentionally look after male validation. Most women are just living their lifes normally, while i do agree that misogyny is ingrained in every part of our lives, i don't agree with the usage of that word to describe common, ignorant women.
No. 2562582
>>2562559Anyone remember an anon a while back found the relationship advice thread, asked her bf for advice on those anons behalf.. and then told nonnies what her bf thinks they should do. To give 'a male perspective'
iirc they were both autistic too so it was advice from a male tist.. about relationships. That was amazing.
No. 2562597
>>2562551Most women don’t really think about it and think every decision they make is something they came up with themselves. When asked to carefully evaluate why they want something some of them get angry because you’re making them feel uncomfortable and others dig their heels in and say they really do want these things because they think you’re calling them dumb for conforming to things that they’ve been trained to conform to since they were kids. Which isn’t their fault nor does it make them dumb and helpless, just like someone who grew up in a cult isn’t dumb for having had weird beliefs their whole life. And it doesn’t make them a pickme, a pickme is someone who aggressively and consciously undermines other women, even friends, for male validation. That anon is just trying to pick a fight on purpose by calling all women pickmes.
Normal women come in all shapes, sizes and temperaments so not everyone will react positively but not everyone will reject these ideas either. It takes time and self reflection.
Most women live in less than ideal conditions so accepting that there is as much misogyny in the world as there is would make them extremely depressed, and they choose to believe otherwise.
Honestly, all feminists should also know when to pick their battles, because other women aren’t your little pawns and you can’t boss them around and get mad when they refuse to shave, if they’re living in a country where it’s normal to call women hairy manly monkeys when they don’t shave. You’re not changing anyone’s mind that way, in fact you’re just becoming one of the hundred voices telling a woman what to do and getting mad when they choose different.
No. 2562612
>>2562505not if you avoid the typical scarethot and hang out with older people. but if by culture you mean be cool and relevant then yeah maybe. although i think being a
femcel radfem will have a moment in the trend cycle like how draingang made being an incel cool for guys for a little bit.
No. 2562617
>>2562597You just said everything i wanted to say. Calling women pick mes for literally surviving is at least dishonest, and they literally said themselves that it's impossible to interact with society without being "a pick me", so what should every woman do? Turn into a nun and ignore her feelings and desires of simply surviving like a normal human being (having relationships, having fun with friends, and so on)?
I wonder if she would call herself a pick me, because i'm SURE that she interacts with and ignores subtle signs of misogyny every day. Same thing as saying that a communist is not a communist because they have a house. I guess the real solution to being a true radfem is killing yourself kek
No. 2562822
>>2562665I said surviving because i'm assuming that ALL parts of our lives have a certain degree of misogyny in them. When you interact with people in general you are exposing yourself to misogyny, that's what she herself said. To me, that's literally survival, the act of living a normal life in this world. If you are a pick me for interacting with society and culture, then what do you do? Because wether you want or not, we depend on our whole society to be alive. You can only be a shut in if you are a rich woman and that's it, but COMMON women need people around them to be alive, simple as that. Or do you think that to work you don't need to adapt to misogyny and be indirectly humiliated as a woman?
I was not talking about specific things like choosing your partner, even if your partner is the most gentle man, he is still a misogynist at some point and you are adapting yourself to him. There's no such thing as "choosing" to not adapt yourself to a system that has much more power than you. I'm saying that to do ANYTHING in your life you deal with misogyny one way or another and adapt yourself to it one way or another, as you also deal with material circunstances and not everybody can find a radfem friend, also your view kind of has America only in mind? Saying that it's optional puts the fault over women someway and ignores that the patriachy exists in all spheres of life.
No. 2562833
I am so jealous of Nara Smith and honestly I don’t think she’s lying about her age. Obviously if your body creates and gives birth to three children before you even reach the age of 22, you’re going to age at an accelerated rate compared to your peers kek. And I’m also so envious as to how rich she is, is able to cook whatever she wants to eat, probably has a nanny for each baby, her nigel clearly seems to be obsessed with her. And she’s gorgeous as fuck
No. 2562892
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>>2562875I don’t know anon I’m under the impression that being ‘trad’ per se is when you’re super duper religious and never see the light of day and just tend to the chickens (that’s more ballerinafarm), I don’t think Nara falls under the trad umbrella cause she has a whole career and her own life and work outside of her kids and nigel which is what makes me know for a fact she definitely has some nannies and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that to be frank. Also I don’t believe that wanting to have cute kids and a rich husband is pickmeism kek
>>2562878Yeah it sort of has lavender marriage energy, and he always has a toothpick in his mouth for some reason? KEK why?
>>2562879Well nona this is the unpopular opinions thread and not being judgmental of NS or even desiring her lifestyle is quite a bit unpopular on lolcow lol
No. 2562917
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>>2562913Nara isn’t really an influencer though, she’s been a model outside of social media since she was a teenager and still has jobs outside of the tiktok posting. She posts videos of herself on set often too
No. 2562923
>>2562559No, imageboards are not sacred, and if you live with someone they are going to know what you do on your computer. If you think lolcow is some sort of big secret that no one has ever heard of you're retarded, several of my friends have offhandedly mentioned it to me without me mentioning it to them. Feel free to act secretive about frequenting a normal website on the clearnet if you want and only open it in the depth of the night locked in your closet but lc is not a 'sacred' site kekkk and there would be no one active on here to respond to you if they were all acting like that. Funny screenshots of troons can be found on a hundred other websites as well, the funny content here is not unique in any way.
>>2562597Yeah it's extremely tiresome to hear every woman being called a pickme, it's the same misogynistic crap that happened with NLOG and Karen. It went from meaning something specific (a woman who would intentionally throw other women under the bus to get moid attention) to literally meaning 'any woman that acts normal, or even accidentally does something men don't hate.' That isn't jumping up and down saying 'pick me' as the name pickme suggests, it's just existing as a normie. Some normie women who do normie woman things like shaving and wearing makeup are lesbians with no male friends, are they 'pickmes' for moids too?
>>2562617I agree with most of your post but yes, a communist cannot own property. If they do they're not a real communist.
No. 2562925
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Retards, spergs and low quality mongoloids are the beating heart of any healthy image board, any image board that cares too deeply about maintaining 'quality' inevitably ossifies then crumbles.
The real cancer that kills sites like these are the uptight puritans that suck all of the life out of the board and demand endless bans rather than either ignoring the more boring slapfights or grabbing their own tinfoil caps and joining in on the chaos.
No. 2562935
>>2562822>>2562665>>2562617>>2562597>>2562551Im the op, and yes calling other women pickmes is insulting, but that's the point, unless women act like pickmes they cannot survive, to survive women have to give up their self respect. I don't know how you don't see it, how women defend objectifiying themselves and offering physical and emotional labour that scrotes don't deserve, defending all the shit that scrotes do, projecting their female thinking and inventing all sorts of excuses and copes instead of admitting the truth about them. I don't identify as a radfem and don't say it to make myself seem better than others, i don't blame them for coping at all, in fact i wish i never peaked because it's impossible not to get depressed seeing how rooted misogyny is and what people think my "place" is because i'm a woman even if they never say it outloud, it's actually even more depressing because it's subconscious a lot of the time.
No. 2562941
>>2562920Ntayrt even if she isn’t rich from modeling specifically I think she has to be some type of nepo or trustfund baby because you have to have both pockets
full of cash to have a bunch of kids like that in this economy
No. 2562962
>>2562953Once again, isn’t being trad when you’re adhering to/practicing more traditionalist beliefs? Just having kids and being married isn’t really all that trad anon
>this could not be more fetish…Aren’t you embarrassed to buy into what is actually a porn fantasy for incels?I mean I don’t really have anything to be embarrassed of because I just think she’s gorgeous, her clothes are pretty, the recipes she’s cooking look good, she always looks happy holding and admiring her kids. Also there’s not really anything I’m “buying into” because I don’t purchase anything from her, I don’t use her discount codes or anything, I don’t buy the stuff she’s in advertisements for, so I don’t think I’d go to the extremity of claiming that I’m “buying into a pornographic incel fantasy” if I just think she’s gorgeous and she makes me fantasize about having my own ideal life kek
>>2562957>I’m not mormon >it’s not hard to find a nice looking mormon guy if that’s what you want lol nona I’m not mormon
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>>2562923>a woman who would intentionally throw other women under the bus to get moid attentionThe thing is that is not obvious. When anons think of pickmeism they think of people like shuwu, but many women also engage in a lot of other misogynistic behaviour like nitpicking women's looks even if scrotes are not in the picture but let moids live while looking like a missing link. It being necessary for survival doesn't make it any less detrimental to women as a class. I guess pickme isn't the right term, would handmaiden would be a better term for this?
No. 2562964
>>2562892But she is trad, Mormonism is a trad religion. There isn't non-trad Mormonism. If they are devout Mormons as they claim to be then they are by definition trad religious.
Obviously her lifestyle isn't actually trad, since she's a full time influencer and also extremely rich and doesn't raise her own kids, but no influencer is truly trad under that definition. I think being from a traditional religion and trying to LARP a trad lifestyle on camera is close enough to trad for most people.
Just getting pregnant over and over again seems nightmarish though can't imagine anyone being jealous of that.
No. 2562971
>>2562966I’m confused kek why would I need to be mormon? You don’t need to be mormon to be rich and have kids nonna
>>2562964In the tiktok I tagged she states pretty fluently that she isn’t mormon, and I don’t even think Lucky is either; his family was mormon though
>Just getting pregnant over and over again seems nightmarish though can’t imagine anyone being jealous of that >I’m also so envious as to how rich she is, is able to cook whatever she wants to eat, probably has a nanny for each baby, her nigel clearly seems to be obsessed with her. And she’s gorgeous as fuck No. 2562980
>>2562962okay but is the only place you can get that really an obvious ethot?
>>2562975because they're lazy? if they weren't lazy they wouldn't need escapist tiktoks to aspire to.
No. 2562986
>>2562980I didn’t say looking at her posts and ads were the only thing that makes me think of my ideal life kek
>>2562975Because I don’t want to own a business or go to college or work for some meaningless shit that nobody will care about and will inevitably get pushed aside in hopes to “make a difference”
No. 2562991
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>>2562975I'm pretty envious of this bitch. I hate her art style but the fact that she's more successful and more skilled then I'll ever be makes me want to chew my walls and squeal in impotent rage.
No. 2562996
>>2562990My husband isn’t capable of pushing me or our kids aside because it’s against his culture so his family would actually disown him if he ever tried to turn his back on me, other heterosexual nonnies I recommend finding a scrote with a family like that!
>>2562993I’m sure you feel that way but I’m not really concerned about what other people think about the way I choose to live my life so long as I’m not harming anyone
No. 2563006
>>2562998Actually I’m not incubating anything and I’m not really a maid either but, if thats the way you feel about women who just want to stay home with our kids that’s okay
>>2563000Well nona, simply being a mother who stays at home with your child doesn’t necessarily mean that the husband and wife actually expected themselves to uphold the vows they took upon getting married
No. 2563017
>>2563006I hope it all works out for you and you live a great life. It can be a tough world and I genuinely want to see some people make it, do what you can to build a life that gives you meaning and happiness.
I don't get it but you're and adult and I trust that you have reasons.
No. 2563022
>>2562935You're just misusing the term pickme. That's really not what it means kek. Also you don't have to give up your self respect to survive, unless you live in Saudi Arabia or something.
>>2562953Yeah her whole channel/account (and other tradwife channels/tiktok accounts) always seem like porn to me. I highly doubt many women watch them.
>>2562956Saying something mean about a woman's looks to another woman is not 'pickme' behavior because there's no moid there to get picked by. It's just rude/mean. Being rude/mean does not make you a pickme, you're not inherently moid-aligned or looking for attention from moids just because you aren't perfectly sweet toward other women 100% of the time. Even in a world with no men at all some women would be mean toward each other. Yes, 'handmaiden' is probably a little closer to what you're looking for, although I still wouldn't say it's entirely accurate.
No. 2563028
>>2563017I greatly appreciate that anon! ♥
>>2563022>Her videos where she’s fully clothed and cooking food always seem like porn to me Well we all have life experiences that influence our perspective! I just think she looks gorgeous like a statue
>>2563024Is not wanting to work and wanting to just stay at home really “pick me” behavior? It’s just existing
No. 2563044
>>2563038I’m fairly certain she isn’t referring to stay at home mothers as “bang maids” for the purpose of representing/mimicking the way men talk about women
>>2563039Could you greentext which part of my post I said any of those things? Also I’ve never once seen her post a single video where he slaps her ass or touches her inappropriately
No. 2563047
>>2563044You think weird shit like this is cute lol
No. 2563054
>>2563047They’re just wiggling around, they’re not even eating the takout in these videos
nonny kek? I could be missing it but I didn’t see anything gross happen in this little montage
No. 2563057
>>2563054He’s literally yanking on her and put her in a head lock lol
No. 2563069
>>2563061Ok well (incoming cringe alert) I love wrestling with my nigel because I always win so that’s probably why this doesn’t look concerning to me, however I’ve also never been a
victim of physical abuse of any kind so that could also be why I don’t immediately feel scared for her when watching their tiktoks of them wrestling around
No. 2563079
>>2563073I mean, it’s like a 5 second video of little parts cut from one of her other videos so, none of us have any idea what was actually happening but I’m pretty confident that if things were happening that Nara was not okay with, she wouldn’t have uploaded it to the internet
>>2563074I understand completely if you don’t feel comfortable with things like that nona, but since I’m in a relationship with a man that I feel very safe with and protected by that’s basically why it doesn’t make me feel threatened
No. 2563087
>>2563084Ngl she does look a little annoyed at some points kek, it’s like he’s trying hard to sell that he’s
totally a straight guy
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>>2563087Least shocking grindr hookup reveal incoming
>>2563059This situation would feel extremely condescending for me, in order to be equal
No. 2563139
>>2563028She's not really 'fully clothed' in almost any of her videos though, is she? She's almost always in some kind of lingerie or with lingerie showing, like in the video you posted, and there's a lot of focus on her body in the videos. That's not how cooking videos are shot kek, there are plenty of beautiful women who make videos about cooking that are actually about cooking, not showing off their body in revealing lingerie/loungewear that's not appropriate for strangers to see you in.
>>2563047Yeah him repeatedly slapping her ass on video is so empowering and it's not porny at all. This is definitely for women to watch and aspire to and not coom fodder for tradmoids at all. I think the anon you're responding to might be trolling kek
No. 2563145
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>>2563139I don’t want to make a whole collage of her outfits but this one definitely one of my favorites, but no she is absolutely fully clothed in the majority of her videos, there’s only a few videos where she’s wearing the big elaborate designer outfits that show lots of skin. Also I didn’t claim in my post that I think her videos are made for us to aspire to be her anon kek I was just saying I’m jealous that she’s rich, gorgeous, better at baking and cooking than me, and can afford however many nannies and maids she needs
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>>2563022>Also you don't have to give up your self respect to survive, unless you live in Saudi Arabia or something.I don't know where you live where women don't pretend that makeup is empowering and admit that porn is actually misogynistic and violent but it sounds great
>Saying something mean about a woman's looks to another woman is not 'pickme' behavior because there's no moid there to get picked by. It's just rude/mean. Being rude/mean does not make you a pickme, you're not inherently moid-aligned or looking for attention from moids just because you aren't perfectly sweet toward other women 100% of the time. Even in a world with no men at all some women would be mean toward each other.It's not just "being mean" retard. It's female socialization at work policing women for not performing femininity. We don't live in a moid free world so women being retarded about other women not performing femininity and moralfagging about behaviour doesn't exist in a vaccum
>Yes, 'handmaiden' is probably a little closer to what you're looking for, although I still wouldn't say it's entirely accurate.Then what would you call this behaviour then?
No. 2563154
>>2563145>'cooking' content>wearing halloween glove sleeves she can't even touch food withwtf
>Also I didn’t claim in my post that I think her videos are made for us to aspire to be herNo but you acted like it was crazy to call her videos porn-adjacent. Between the disgusting behavior (butt slapping, choking, etc) by Lucky Blue in her videos, the constant fetishization of her pregnant body with her wearing as little clothing as possible, and the lack of focus on the actual cooking, yeah it's obviously porny content.
>no she is absolutely fully clothed in the majority of her videosAbsolutely not. I just checked her tiktok to make sure and the first like 100 videos were almost all in lingerie or like ballgown type high fashion clothing.
No. 2563157
>>2563150>PicrelWe will never be free.
Also, why get pressed over women not wearing makeup? I've never touched mascara in my life and I don't think I'm "superior" to makeup-wearing women. What is this made up rivalry shit
No. 2563160
>>2563150I don't wear makeup almost ever and most of my friends don't wear it either, it's not like you HAVE to wear makeup to exist in society. You literally don't have to, no one cares if you wear it or not unless you live in a total shithole dump. Similarly you don't have to participate in porn or pretend it's good to exist in society. I talk about how disgusting and degenerate porn is all the time and all my friends agree; if I didn't, I wouldn't be friends with them anymore. Seems weird that you are trying to justify these things as normal when they're not required for any normal woman outside of shitholes.
>It's female socialization at work policing women for not performing femininity. Sure, the things in your screenshot are, but your original post just said
>engage in a lot of other misogynistic behaviour like nitpicking women's looks which has nothing to do with performing femininity or not. Nitpicking another woman's looks can mean anything from saying 'she's too fat' to 'I don't like her haircolor' and none of that is intrinsically or inherently related to moids. Again, even if you lived on an island with zero moids women would still have opinions about each other's looks, just like we all have opinions about male looks too. You goalpost-shifted to some specific nasty comments policing women for not wearing makeup, but that's not what you said in the post I replied to.
>Then what would you call this behaviour then?For the most part, bullying. I don't know the motivation of those women and whether it has to do with performing for males or not. Some of the comments seem specifically handmaideny, like the middle one, but 'you should have' just sounds like someone who wants to bully the woman in the video by saying 'you're ugly.'
No. 2563161
>>2563155Maybe i should've pointed out that this
>>2563150 is a response to this woman
>>2562963 but no i'm not the pickme for rightfully calling other women out for being retarded about performing femininity. While i understand women are pressured to be aesthetically pleasing and it's to want to appear attractive to their peers, makeup is not and will never be empowering and is a tool of objectification.
No. 2563189
>>2563161Oh, sorry then
nonnie, you had nothing to do with the discussion
No. 2563192
>>2563153Ok well I don’t know her personally so I can’t answer as to whether or not she’s an anachan
>>2563154>disgusting behavior by lucky in her videos You’re saying that as if this is something that occurs in every single one of her videos? This is not true. Also the vast majority of her videos, she’s fully clothed.
>>2563156I defend her because I find her to be very gorgeous and undeserving of the extensive amount of judgement she receives, I feel like she’s not doing anything wrong
>>2563183She said in the video I tagged which was posted very recently that she isn’t mormon…
>>2563185Well by definition she’s actually a model, being an influencer is just being someone who posts internet content. Unless we’re changing the term “celebrity” to “influencer” now
No. 2563202
>>2563186Women look weird with makeup too. You're just used to how it looks because that's how you were raised.
>I hate the anon mentality that everything women have done, moids should now do bc "fairness"I was saying it because I think moids are ugly and have bad skin and they should try to disguise that with makeup. Burqas work too.
No. 2563204
>>2563192>You’re saying that as if this is something that occurs in every single one of her videos?No, it doesn't have to. If it happens in some of her videos that's enough.
>Also the vast majority of her videos, she’s fully clothed. Fully clothed in lingerie or skimpy evening wear. Come on, none of that is normal to wear in cooking videos.
>>2563194And that is relevant how? It's not very common for women to bully other women about not wearing makeup. It's very normal not to wear makeup. I went pretty much my whole life not wearing makeup regularly and no one has ever said anything negative to me about it, same with many or most of my friends, so I don't think this evil pro-makeup bullying is all that widespread. The original claim was 'all non-radfem women are pickmes' and when people said no they're not you pivoted to this false premise that all non-radfem women bully each other into wearing makeup which is also clearly not true. A small number of women sometimes do that but it's far from the norm.
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>>2563200Generally makeup free judgers and picrel are two sides of the same shit-coin. Pick-me one wants to be praised for having natural beauty and not needing makeup (or looking like that terrifying yt tradwoman pearl) and pick-me two views this as personal attack against their delusional lifestyle
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British food isn't that bad and I'm not even british. It's just homely.
French and Italian food are good but you can't say that to a French or an Italian because they are fucking obnoxious about having the "best" cuisine in the world and they need to be taken down a peg.
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>>2563204Thank you for giving me a reason to go watch her videos and look at her in a bunch of beautiful outfits but in 90% of her videos she isn’t dressed inappropriately
No. 2563212
>>2563202I think subtle or minimal makeup can look good on both men and women, but the way most people wear makeup it looks weird on women and would look weird on men. I think some moids would benefit from lightly covering up acne with spot concealer, which also tends to look normal on women, filling in/gelling their brows if they have light or sparse brows, or putting a little color on their lips - I actually hate how moids often walk around with crusty chapped white lips so I would actually appreciate if they wore some kind of tinted balm or lip gloss kek. I'm not sure if it's really good for either men or women to wear makeup but I could see those things looking good on both sexes.
>>2563208I can't agree with this at all, maybe British food could be good in theory but when I went there the food was literally the most awful food I've ever had. It was almost all inedible.
No. 2563220
>>2563200as someone who's never worn makeup, some anons just seem mad about something else, i don't believe its really about what not usingor using makeup means to them, there's like an underlying motive and thats why it always ends up in derail
>>2563208every time i see beans like this i want to puke, had a video show up on my yt recommended and i blocked the channel
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>>2563224Maybe they don't know what refried beans are
>>2563225Oh yeah, it's great. I love having all my friends replaced by other animals
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>>2563215>>2563218This is her most recent cooking video outfit and this isn’t lingerie or a ballgown it’s just a strapless designer dress
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>>2563231>disco-verkek I just noticed that now
No. 2563239
>>2563196You're not a horrible person because you you wear makeup but your choices don't exist in a vacuum, given the society that we are in it is a performance of femininity
>>2563207No one said anything about makeup being about natural beauty, in fact my argument wasn't about whether makeup or no makeup looks better but about women policing other for not conforming to the expectations placed on them because they're female
No. 2563242
>>2563228NTA we really have a lot of autist nonnies on here but i don’t think she was actually calling her a bitch for real nona lol
>>2563238Don’t worry anon I’m pretty sure most of us could tell you were joking
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>>2563243She would look good like this. Can we speculate on rib removal here or is this too tinfoil-y?
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>>2563246this is from harpers bazaar and says she was 24?
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>>2563253Miss you forever anona
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Speaking of makeup, this is probably my least favourite trashy summer movie but their makeup looks really good. I think it's bc the lip gloss is a plot device that I remember this
No. 2563266
>>2563229But that’s what I’m saying. Thinking about it is addictive, it’s comforting to carefully craft your perfect suicide. It’s like a mental pacifier for depressed people. But that mindset encourages us to live poorly, make shortsighted choices, and numb ourselves because “I’m not going to live much longer anyway.” And then years pass, and you’re still alive, except you wasted all those years wishing you were dead, and yet here you are, still in one piece, still with life left to live. I don’t want to spend the rest of my life with that kind of tunnel vision. I don’t want to die, I want to achieve a life where I wake up and the thought of suicide is disturbing and absurd.
>>2563240>people who are against suicideThat is… most of the earth. Hurting yourself is bad. I’m sorry you have medical bills but are you really going to resent people for telling you that they love you dearly?
No. 2563273
>>2563268I don’t think anyone cared enough about her to consider her lying about her age to be milk, I never really focused that much on her age
>>2563271Anon, I don’t even use tiktok. The tiktok website is just the only website that we can post links to videos from, other than youtube, but there aren’t really people posting every single nara smith video on youtube. Also
>Insist on posting about and spreading I made one singular post about my unpopular opinion in the corresponding thread…
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>>2563275Some of them. Others have overwhelming mental difficulties that stands in the way of them doing stuff or diagnosed mental illness and genuinely want to live functional lives
ugh No. 2563279
>>2563274Me responding to your comment about my post describing it as “tiktok fag anons insisting on posting about and spreading” the topic of a young mother who’s lying about her age online isn’t really taking it personally anon, it’s me responding to you explaining why I had to link the video using tiktok…also I don’t really think it’s necessary to autistically be like
>HURR DURR LOOK WHAT THE TIKTOK FAGS ARE because I did not really take into consideration if which individual apps that the videos are posted on would matter
No. 2563281
>>2563273>consider her lying about her age to be milkthere's so much sperging in those threads sometimes i forget about the milk part kek
>>2563271>That's why only tiktok-fag anons insist on posting about and spreading thisthose threads constantly have tiktoks embedded though, but its not like her age is discussed or trending on tiktok so yeah you're right
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>>2563282A place for everything and everything in it's place nona
No. 2563295
>>2563289No love isn't enough because there is bills to pay and people judge if you have no degree because it means you're stupid
>>2563292What would changing her attitude entail
No. 2563296
>>2563249Ofcourse i am pro suicide. People who are born privileged will never understand what it's like to be stuck in a shithole as a poorfag with no family support and a shit load of health issues that require money you dont have and cant get because the min salary in your shithole is like 150 bucks a month. The fact anon is talking about how your family and friends will feel as if everyone had a good family unit or friends speaks about how anti suicide people always come from an extremely privileged place.
>>2563266>but are you really going to resent people for telling you that they love you dearly?That's my point, they never love you, they are just telling you that because it satisfies their egos. Their love is always selfish. Most people will not help you in a time of need, and if you have people that will lend you a hand, then you will be less likely to be suicidal overall. Anti suicide preachers will call you selfish but they never volunteer at a local homeless shelter, soup kitchen, will never give you 50 bucks if you ask them to. They really dont care and just repeat whats socially acceptable to fit in and not because they genuinely believe in what they say.
No. 2563327
>>2563293There are situations in which such isn't feasible. Nobody anticipates ever developing locked-in syndrome. Additionally, many of those individuals, particularly those who are impoverished, are unable to pay for high-quality care that could improve their quality of life (e.g., changing positions every two hours, planned feedings, occasional outings). I have witnessed individuals with medical problems repeatedly wind up in the hospital due to inadequate treatment from their caregivers, unfortunately developing bronchoaspiration, impetigo, pressure sores, etc. For those with a poor prognosis and little to no possibility of leading fulfilling lives, there ought to be a choice. No one should get pressured and protocols should exist.
No. 2563440
>>2563415I agree so much, I also have a very heavy period and I would have had to bring a packet of wipes around with me everywhere to clean the blood off of me every time I changed it, and then I’d have to dispose of them anyway so why not just save myself the headache and use a tampon? Why is it that women have to suffer through this messy complicated torture contraption in the name of uwu being environmentally friendly when moids and corporations don’t give a fuck and scoff at the concept of even caring? I try very hard to reduce waste and avoid buying anything that will leave unnecessary plastic waste, so I will let myself the luxury of disposable pads and tampons.
When I was trying to switch to a cup I was trialling it at home and every single time, no matter how many tutorials I watched and how many different techniques I tried, it would leak. I would literally cause myself pain trying to get it in the right position and it would still leak. I think it’s great how it works for some people but it genuinely baffles me how they manage, they must have very light periods or something.
No. 2563453
>>2563440Some women act really weird when you say that you just like using pads. I don’t want to insert anything, it’s uncomfortable for me.
>ree plastic waste!There is so much more we can do to reduce plastic waste before attempting to police how women use sanitary products. Needles and tubes are also made of plastic, should we stop using them too? Diva cups and tampons wearers are always like that kek.
No. 2563460
>>2563458The reality is that most women crave male validation. That’s why lib feminism works so well.
You can get to still chase men while labelling all your choices as “feminism”. It’s so nice to feel like you are doing the right thing without you doing absolutely nothing to self-analyze and have accountability.
>Plastic surgery So feminist of you!
>Prostitution Yass girl!
>hook up culture!Show it to em! Boss girl!
No. 2563463
>>2563461But I mean it’s true .
>which sex is the one most likely to be pedos?>which sex is the one most likely to rape?>which sex is the one most likely to abandon their children?>which sex is the one most likely to do a mass shooting?>which sex is the one most likely to torture animals?>which sex is the one most likely to murder?Exactly.
No. 2563472
>>2563463all signs of male privilege if anything, especially the willingness to externalize your mental illness onto someone else besides yourself
>blessed are the meekis slave morality
No. 2563480
>>2563472But women don't go on shooting sprees, stab men because they watch porn or make gross deepfakes about random women, children or even moids. If you make fun of someone being raped most women would find that very offensive
>>2563461>the only actual difference is that they have more options at their disposal, and logically pick the most advantageous oneWhat are you talking about
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we need to start calling male columbiners gay . we will solve school shootings forever
No. 2563508
>>2563472That’s just proof that women are FAR more morally superior to men though.
>blessed are the meekYou are a retard if you think that pointing out that men are the shitty human beings is a sign that women are meek or weak.
No. 2563509
>>2563461You know I automatically find people who try to generalize that women are like men quite stupid, when that isn’t the case, you literally just need to go outside and you’ll realize it.
It’s one thing to say that women are capable of doing harm , but it’s another to say
>Women are just as bad as men!1!1!1 You are probably a scrote on stealth or a very pickmeisha.
No. 2563550
>>2563472I don't see how it's a privilege to do any of that. If women were exactly the same as men internally, we'd do the same things, and we have guns to make up for lack of physical strength. We just don't want to.
>inb4 "not wanting to do that is slave morality, you're just meek"Having standards and principles for behavior isn't slave morality, unless your idea of freedom is degeneracy (in which case you're unfit for human community/societies, probably unsafe to other living beings and should be put down).
No. 2563585
>>2563525If they are going to be reborn just let them try and get a better body kek, unless you are buddhist, but then we would be talking about religion and that's not the point.
>>2563577Many women that get pregnant start loving their babies before they are even born and feel extreme emptiness once loosing the baby. Imagine pairing that emptiness with the extreme sadness of being raped. It seems like you are lacking empathy and that helps no one.
No. 2563615
>>2563605Alright, next time be more clear and say "I hate women, specially
victims" because you are unable to empathize with the fact that someone wants to keep the being she loves. I'm all for abortion but not everyone feels the same and feminism is exactly about considering the feelings of women, you can't treat women as a monolith. The same way some women don't feel anything for the blob inside their uterus, some woman do feel and it can be psychologically destructive to take that from them.
No. 2563634
>>2563625I’ve seen women go to pro life rallies and talk about how they’re selfless for keeping babies from rape and with that narrative anti abortion people just use it as a gotcha to say “well look this woman loved her baby and she’s not so selfish thinking only about herself!”. It’s a bad look for all women.
No. 2563646
>>2563615>>2563617Just because it's a woman's choice doesn't make it any less degrading and masochistic.
>>2563635The woman in the video isn't a thirdie, she's a white woman in America
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>>2563660Most women don't tell the rapist they're pregnant and just live quiet normal lives with their children
flood post No. 2563668
>>2563654Yeah but abortion is caring about women's feelings the same way. Her feelings of discomfort for having a baby that they don't want. If you agree, the woman can have feelings, but if you don't agree the woman can't have feelings?
Also, what does the woman and the baby have to do with the intentions of the rapist? If the woman wants to keep the baby, that is HERS because the body is hers, then what is the problem? If someone made a cake while angry and hateful, and you were hungry, wouldnt you eat it anyways because at the end of the day it's literally just a cake?
No. 2563675
>>2563668This is what I'm saying anon, she's angry and only seeing the situation in black and white. It's kind of like hitler logic
>problem exists>realize problem can be solved by mass genocide>do mass genocideLike I get what anon is saying, it would be great to cleanse the earth of rapists but end don't really justify the means, as usual
also not covert jew sperging, anon does not see jews as a "problem", hitler did No. 2563681
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>>2563678>>2563668Yeah whatever do you mean anon
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>>2563697>Me saying I think their choice is stupid doesn’t mean I’m trying to dictate it.If this is just like your opinion man, then that's fine. Anon support both extremes of the horseshoe, as long as they are never too unbalanced
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Solange makes better music than Beyonce.
No. 2563749
>>2563192So she's not an influencer…. She's just an influencer? Also she had maybe a handful of actual photoshoots. Actual models get a photoshoot like twice a month, she gets them twice a year. She's way more known for her cooking videos but when they're obviously trad bait she hides behind the whole "I work though!! I'm not a trad wife" thing as if someone who pops out loads of kids before 25 and is always making half naked cooking videos while pregnant from scratch, while zooming in on the bump isn't obvious conservative dog whistling.
Also Nara has said she isn't a hardcore Mormon, but she did convert to LDS after meeting lucky.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LAinfluencersnark/s/95tL4UcOZ0 No. 2563776
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>>2563770You can disagree about trad wifing or whatever, but to claim she's not an influencer is absolutely laughable. Every single conversation pertaining to her labels her as an influencer, most of her money is from tiktok. She even has a wiki page. You have to be seriously delusional to attempt to downplay her influencer status. In fact she'd probably slap you for that alone
No. 2563783
>>2563776I mean…ok? I don’t really know how you want me to respond, cause at this point I’d consider her more of an actual celebrity if news reports on her regularly and she has ad campaigns and modeling work you see outside of the internet
>>2563779Hyperfixating on linguistics is when you obsess over actual words for an extended period of time kek, me saying that I consider her to be more of a celebrity as opposed to just an influencer
No. 2563789
>>2563783First she's not an influencer, because she's not well known enough and then when I've made several points on why she's an influencer suddenly she magically becomes a celebrity? Someone can be an influencer and celebrity, they're not exclusive
Also to my knowledge she doesn't really work as a model much. Even on her IMG page she's only had 3 main photoshoots. She's claimed to be in runways but there was apparently no evidence of this either. She probably just does like a photoshoot or two a year so she can lean into it when people accuse her of posting trad propaganda
No. 2563796
>>2563786I would like for an anon to explain what they get out of this content, other than
>this makes me angry!I think there was one anon who was a fan of her wearing all black and slicking her hair into various styles with a single greasy curl hanging in the middle. Or, I don't get it
No. 2563811
>>2563802That’s ok
nonny, it’s just that this is the unpopular opinions thread…we’re allowed to post opinions that may be unpopular in this thread kek. I’m jealous as fuck of her too lmao!
>I find these images and videos of her offensive I can understand if you don’t like the videos where Lucky is with her and he’s chewing on a toothpick smacking his wifes ass, peacocking as hard as he possibly can like he’s John Travolta, because that’s not what content I was referring to when I said I’m quite jealous of her
No. 2563814
>>2563809Please do learn2greentext if that’s what you were attempting to do
nonny, but I don’t think you understand the difference between someone who’s an internet influencer and a celebrity
No. 2563907
>>2563880No one's forcing her to have multiple back to back pregnancies (dangerous for her and the baby) while starving all the pregnancy weight away and staying married to an alt right moid. She's extremely careless with her children (having kids while having multiple health issues, having them back to back and despite all her health issues chooses home births, then ignoring her toddlers all day to make food) but we all know damn well she doesn't give a flying fuck about her kids and just does so for the aesthetic all while hiding behind "but but I'm a model too!"
She has the money and resources to do whatever she chooses, she's not even from a Mormon family either so she doesn't have that excuse, she's from Germany ffs which is super liberal. She choose this lifestyle for the attention
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this is absolutely cringe and pathetic
No. 2564211
>>2564170People get threatened by all sorts of things and drag others into it. Esp in workplace settings you get to see a never ending stream of people who 'have it in' for someone else right away and sometimes you've got no idea what's even threatening them but you know it has to be that.
The older you get, the less it seems to be about looks but it's always something.
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I don't care if it's natural, some area of your mind has to be genuinely crazy if you would deliberately get pregnant/give birth. It's not inherently a bad thing that women like this are somewhat fucked in the head. It's how humans survived as a species. We have women like that to thank for us all being here, but I still think you have to be at least a little bit insane to know what childbirth is like and still say "yeah I want that too". Now despite this opinion, I also believe that having a woman give birth for a couple is an act that's inherently evil even if "nobody was hurt". Surrogacy or "lab babies" are just glorified human trafficking no matter how bad plastic female celebrities and narcissistic gays want you to think it's anything progressive.
No. 2564338
>>2564321and finding out through other males kek like she did sleep with them or acted like a fucking pickmeisha, it checks out. sometimes, women do act jealous over petty shit but so do males, it's not really a big deal if you know how to handle it. i remember being glared at by some friend of my friends because the moid she liked started to act randomly friendly with me and i just flee from there, fuck that, i'm not playing that game of being a
victim of other women l
No. 2564349
>>2564338Me too, I’ve had women be condescending with me for that reason, but i still have plenty of female friends kek.
People like OP are often the type who think they’re hot stuff and act insufferable. Had a friend like her in high school, she taught every scrote had a crush on her and I remember that wherever any of my friends would say that they liked a guy she would always say “Oh! I am chatting with this one! We are so much friends! He flirts with me!”.
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>>2564359And when they break up they come back expecting you to accept them with open arms kek.
No. 2564365
>>2564250How do you define "crazy" then? People run marathons for fun, climb steep mountains, swim with sharks and so on, all for nothing. After giving birth you get a baby, a literal human made from your own genes so there is a massively huge reward for the hardships faced. That baby will grow up to care for you and society when you're old so it's a life long reward that benefits you as well as the tribe for the cost of that short term pain. Being pregnant and having a newborn also typically comes with feel-good hormones, and the female body eventually bounces back to normal.
>I also believe that having a woman give birth for a couple is an act that's inherently evil even if "nobody was hurt"I agree with this. The baby is hurt, and generally so is the mother. The social bond is formed prior to birth so it's a traumatic experience to have it ripped away. The negative impacts have been observed, but I don't think it's fully mapped out yet because people don't want to admit it's bad.
No. 2564369
>>2563973She sings and plays piano and guitar in her videos. Idk if she plays any others.
>>2563974Yes, mostly, although they cowrite which I think still counts as writing. This is common for a lot of bands. Just because you aren't the main composer in your band doesn't make you not a musician.
>>2563986Yeah her brother's solo music is a lot more boring than hers with him, so whatever she contributes to the songs makes them better. Her brother's production is cool and interesting, but the combo of the two of them started an entire offshoot subgenre which I had never heard before, so they actually did bring something original to pop music which I can't say about any other pop musicians in the last 10-15 years that I know of. I am a musician in a completely different genre but when I first heard Eilish's music (instead of just hearing about her and assuming it was bad) I was impressed, especially considering her age. Lots of people who go on to be good musicians in their 20s-30s absolutely suck when they're teens, but she was a very skilled singer to begin with at a young age.
>>2564011It depends, a producer can be the composer, a producer can be the person who mixes and cleans up the music after the fact (like fixing EQ, levels, etc), or a producer can even just be someone who gives feedback on the music and the recordings. A writer can be someone who writes (part of or all of) the lyrics, but can also be the actual composer. It depends on the genre too. In most acoustic music the 'songwriter' would be the person who writes the instrumental parts as well as the lyrics and melody, but in pop a producer often writes the whole song while the 'writer' only does the lyrics or even just slightly changes the lyrics to personalize them. It depends a lot and musicians tweak who they give credits to depending who they want to receive the most royalties and accolades.
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Both Frisk and Chara are boys and I seriously don't understand how could anyone perceive them as girls or female
No. 2564398
>>2564365>reward>willyou see a human being like a cynical investment, much like millions of
abusive and narcissistic parents that thought the same as you which is part of why they opted to have a child. how a child will behave is actually often up in the air, which is ok because they're individuals. in the meantime you see stuff like working out as being a waste even though its benefits are well-established and less subject to entropy, similar to how men that hate women rant about rich cat ladies. while not all of them are fulfilled, some are. everyone is different.
>feel good hormones >bounces back to normal it's like you're trying to erase the existence of PPD and the longterm effects many women experience. like it's fine if you want to have a more positive mindset about childbirth and caring for children but your deterministic approach is designed to mislead, much like a car salesmans' tactics.
No. 2564418
>>2564353Or the normalization of moids demanding women to cut off their friends (even if they do it in more manipulative ways like saying "you can go" but then acting passive aggressive, hinting he thinks she is cheating, etc)
If women en masse had conspiracy's about how boys nights were massive gang bangs, told women to not allow their partners to go out with other male friends, etc they would be ready to hang us yet somehow it's become so normal for women to get isolated in relationships
No. 2564593
>>2564250i agree with you nonna. i also feel this way toward women wanting to be with men in general. i sincerely believe in order to be with a man, you have to undergo some deep mental blockage, heavy denial, and delusion. blockage/denial because you refuse to see how evil they all are (i.e. fantasizing about the unicorn) and delusion because you really think you possess a superpower to pick one of the nonexistent "good ones" when all women before you have tried exactly this and failed. not to mention how men are incapable of possessing personality, intelligence, and interiority and often parrot what they hear women say to fake internal richness. i understand and observe practically all heterosexual relationships are purely carnal and only masquerade as being something deeper but men and women are so fundamentally different i feel like their baseline incompatibility should be obvious to everyone. feels like the whole world is living in delusion, like men made heterosexual relationships (not attraction itself, don't misunderstand me) and female socialization to keep women available because they otherwise would never give them the time of day except for maybe a quick fuck every so often. maybe it's my bias speaking but i feel like homosexuality is more "natural" when it comes to having relationships, and heterosexuality is, without the bells and whistles of socialization, purely for procreating – on occasion.
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>>2564593Idk anon, some people have grown up in happy families and seen happy and healthy seeming heterosexual relationships. Understanding those are rare in the grand scheme of things and knowing that society has always been set up to favor males is one thing, but believing that every single heterosexual relationship is necessarily awful and exploitative and purely carnal when you have seen multiple examples disproving that is hard for some people, including myself. I don't blame women who don't want to deal with any males at all but I also think everyone is an individual and will have different life experiences. If you've been good at reading people throughout your life it is also more likely you will develop a sense that you can continue to read people well in the future.
Personally I have dated more women than men, although more moids were interested in me I usually wasn't interested in them enough to date them. But between the men and women I dated, I actually didn't think the dynamics were so massively different nor did I feel like the men were 'less human' than the women or incapable of having real personality, intelligence or interiority. The best (and also least 'carnally' driven) relationship I've had was with a male even though I generally preferred relationships with women. I'm always going to believe in and take my own experience more seriously than what a well-meaning woman on the internet says to me, and when I see women espousing ideas like 'thinking you've met a moid with an actual personality is because you are delusional and can't tell the difference' it just feels condescending.
I think you are largely correct about this though:
>Men made … female socialization to keep women available because they otherwise would never give them the time of day.For the most part, historically, I think this is correct. The vast majority of women would not have given the vast majority of men the time of day if it wasn't for patriarchal structures and female socialization. I also think homosexuality is obviously not 'more' natural (both homosexuality and heterosexuality are natural, though heterosexuality is by far more normal/common) but I agree in the sense that homosociality does seem more natural, and having 'deeper' or more affectionate relationships between people of the same sex is easier generally. I've met many more women in my life I feel like I could be close friends with than men, and I think most people share that experience. In general it is likely that pre-civilization, women spent more time with other women and men spent more time with other men outside of procreative purposes.
I think the last thing about this that might be forming the disconnect between you (a homosexual woman, I presume) and the straight women you see in relationships is that a lot of people actually just don't want or expect their heterosexual romantic pairings to be that deep. I don't fall in that category, but I've observed that a lot of straight women don't really want or need their male partner to be their best friend, or to be super deep or intelligent, or to have a very close connection with him. I used to think this was just low standards but I think it might be somewhat ingrained in the psyche of many women that they get their deep connection from friends, and their male partner serves other purposes. Many women in these types of relationships seem contented if the moid is generally decent, not a coomer, violent, manipulative, etc. I could just not be seeing their inner struggles but I don't want to assume that especially when I know these women well and they seem genuinely not to be distressed or unhappy at all with their relationship. Unironically the 'old ball and chain' comments moids make about women are usually projection, because many straight women essentially view their moid as beneath them subconsciously, while moids tend to 'need' women more in relationships, be more swayed by their opinions, rely on their advice, etc.
>>2564593 No. 2564701
>>2564605Nta but every single moid on this earth is a misogynist of some degree. You never know what's happenning behind the scenes and the "good" longlasting relationships you see are with women accepting whatever the scrote's degeneracy trait is.
>I don't fall in that category, but I've observed that a lot of straight women don't really want or need their male partner to be their best friend, or to be super deep or intelligent, or to have a very close connection with him.Obviously because it's easier to ignore who really is and fabricate another version of him im your head instead
>Many women in these types of relationships seem contented if the moid is generally decent, not a coomer, violent, manipulative, etc. I could just not be seeing their inner struggles but I don't want to assume that especially when I know these women well and they seem genuinely not to be distressed or unhappy at all with their relationship.Moids without these traits don't exist, and even the women you know who you think you know well and have standards just decide to ignore the red flags and be delusional about who their scrote really is like most heterosexual women.
>many straight women essentially view their moid as beneath them subconsciouslyKEEKKKKKK i wish
No. 2564849
>>2564605>when I see women espousing ideas like 'thinking you've met a moid with an actual personality is because you are delusional and can't tell the difference' it just feels condescending. ayrt, it isn't meant to be condescending and i don't mean to call OSAs delusional necessarily but it is a delusional act. you have to literally ignore pattern recognition as an instinct in order to be okay with dating, laying in bed with, and allowing yourself to be vulnerable around the sex that commits the most brutal crimes towards women, that harms women commonly on ALL levels, who have, with their power and constructs, run the earth into shit and made living itself incredibly difficult in the pursuit of 'progress'. if the term 'delusion' is offensive, maybe i should say it's more like pure ignorance to the type of "people" they are. you know those exotic animal lovers who keep lions in captivity because they believe they can be domestic, cute, and well behaved? i'm sincere when i say that it's a similar psychology. you believe in some ways that the animal (a man/lion) is better than its nature (to harm/predate). when i see women with boyfriends it's always a ticking timebomb, inevitably he cheats, or watches illegal rape porn, or does some other disturbing act, and i listen to my female friends wax profound about how she never saw this behavior coming from him, it's so unexpected, etc. how could i or anyone be truly surprised when the lion suddenly attacks if not for a veil of ignorance? i don't bat an eye, ever, and wouldn't if it came to light about even any of my male friends or family members. you can make the argument that men are more advanced than animals but i refuse to believe this when 1/3 women get sexually assaulted or hurt by men. and since women under report, i'd day the real percentage is even higher.
i'm relieved that you seem to have never been harmed while exiting a relationship with a man and that you enjoyed those relationships. i never want women to be hurt. but i do think men gain more from relationships with women. i feel bad for OSAs even in the cases where he doesn't physically and emotionally abuse her, because she seems drained, less like herself, like he's a parasite sucking the life from her. it's so creepy to watch these beautiful intelligent women become dumb and fawn over men and imitate their retarded speech patterns and jokes and just, change in their presence. i believe that men are naturally defective which is why i'm lost when trying to understand why a woman would want to spend time with those things instead of with fellow interesting humans. you believe men are capable of interiority and i don't, which is where the disconnect comes from. of course if you believe men are people then you wouldn't understand why someone like me would be confused by your/OSA's decision to be with them.
in my experience when i discuss things like this, OSA women take it very personally, but i think what i'm saying is all quite neutral. i think it's fine for women to make their own decisions and to live in blissful ignorance, hell, it would make my life SO much easier if i could play pretend with everyone else. in the end, i simply cannot follow the logic of why women choose men while knowing what they know, seeing what they see. it's even more stunning coming from women who read theory because they can understand the depraved psychology of why men do the unthinkable.
No. 2564910
>>2564814The logic of those people tends to be that they should just have some babies themselves to 'stay busy' if it's still playing on their mind as an adult. I heard that often when there was an abortion row in my country and rape/incest cases were brought up. How would you cope later on..
Troubled, mentally ill, kept awake at night because you're a rape or incest baby?.. have a baby yourself! It'll keep you so busy you'll never feel a thing again! You'll be too tired to think lolol
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I don't care about Bonnie or any other woman who does stuff like her. Some people say they feel bad for her because of the trauma maybe she has gone through that lead her to end up doing what she does…but I cant. Not now. I feel bad for women going through shit, yes. I don't feel bad for a woman who's contributing to make things worse for all us. I wish they would share the information of the moids who have slept with her or wanted to be part of the zoo thing. We should shame those men for being so degenerated, and ruin their lives.
No. 2565120
>>2564701Sure and I'd argue every single woman on earth is misogynistic to some degree too, we live in a patriarchal world where misogyny is baked into our culture and institutions. Every single person in the world is also racist, classist, and ableist to some degree. Just stating these self-evident facts doesn't change that people still seek social relationships with other imperfect people. I mentioned growing up in happy families because you do see what's happening behind the scenes in those relationships, and you definitely see behind the scenes in your own. It's actually lesbian OP who does not see behind the scenes of her friends' relationships which she is sure are bad and unfulfilling while her relationships are good. She thinks she knows better than the people actually in the relationships and that they are lying to her (or themselves), which is of course very possible, but you can use the same excuse for anything. You can live an entire happy life with a partner (male or female) and 'never know what they're really like' but at some point people just trust their gut and go with what feels beneficial to them. If a person seems to care more about a person other than you/thinks their relationship with that person is deeper, you can either believe they know something about their own life you don't know, or you can believe you know better than them about their own life, but you won't ever know for sure.
>and even the women you know who you think you know well and have standards just decide to ignore the red flagsSo now it's impossible to know women well either? Well if you insist it's impossible to ever really know moids AND it's impossible to ever really know women, guess we're left with AI.
>KEEKKKKKK i wishThat's what I've noticed in the people I know.
>>2564849The purpose of pattern recognition is to make broad-strokes instinctive judgments, it's not to project stereotypes on every individual. What you're saying comes close to the kind of gendie logic that says it's impossible for a woman not be be nurturing and agreeable because 'women are nurturing and agreeable in general.'
>you believe in some ways that the animal (a man/lion) is better than its nature (to harm/predate). I understand the analogy you're making but it doesn't work for me because I believe humans have free will and a conscience, unlike lions. I believe lions can never rise above their nature, but I believe people, even moids, can. That's actually why it's so disgusting and morally repulsive when a majority of moids act like animals. I'm not repulsed by a lion being a killer, and if I had one in my house for whatever reason I would love it and think it was cute until it killed me, and not even blame it for killing me. I actually don't think most women feel that way about moids kek.
>i'm relieved that you seem to have never been harmed while exiting a relationship with a man and that you enjoyed those relationships.Thanks, but to add to that, I have actually been harmed (in fairly horrific fashion) in at least one of my relationships with women. I guess this is where your analogies fall apart for me. Women are by far less violent/manipulative than men on average, but just like men, they are individuals who can harm you. My isolated bad experiences dating women didn't make me automatically scared of dating women, they made me think that I need to be much more cautious around people in general and become a good judge of character to avoid being harmed. Again, lion analogy falls apart because people have moral intent.
>it's so creepy to watch these beautiful intelligent women become dumb and fawn over men and imitate their retarded speech patterns and jokes and just, change in their presence.I don't hang out with women like this so maybe that's why we're not on the same page. This sounds very annoying. The women I am friends with have self respect and I drop friends who fawn over men or change in their presence.
>of course if you believe men are people then you wouldn't understand why someone like me would be confused by your/OSA's decision to be with them.No, I understand perfectly why you're confused. It makes sense if you think men aren't people. It also makes sense that if you believe men aren't people, you think it's 'neutral' to say one of the most condescending possible things to your straight friends, which is 'you're carrying on this whole relationship with a non-person without even realizing they're not human, while I'm part of the tiny minority capable of real relationships with actual humans. If you're in the 99% born sexually attracted to men you can never have a real relationship.' It implies that your straight female friends aren't really human either, because if they were, they'd be able to recognize that their moid partners aren't human and don't have interiority like they do. When moids, especially gay moids, act like women aren't human and are confused that other moids would ever spend time with them, they say the same thing to their moid friends. I know moids are objectively not the same as women, but just food for thought. Those moids 'really believe' women don't have interiority too. Is there a way to 'prove' interiority to a person whose starting premise is that you or your partner doesn't have it? I don't think so.
No. 2565279
>>2565259I'm not heterosexual but ok
>>2565263So basically no, it's just 'because I said so.'
>>2565274That's the opposite of what I said. I said I am repulsed by moids being violent, because they CAN help it, because they ARE capable of conscience. I am not repulsed by wild animals being violent, because they can't help it, and are not capable of conscience.
No. 2565307
>>2565059I cannot be the only anon who looked at the pic before reading the post and thought this was gonna be about troons
Also I can't tag posts correctly today. I'm really on a roll with doing that.
No. 2565322
>>2565295Yes and yes, especially to the second.
I am not caping for men, the purpose of my post was to explain to that anon how and why her attitude also patronizes and dehumanizes her female friends (if XYs have no interiority, then it would follow that the vast majority of heterosexual women also have no interiority, since TOM is part of interiority, so in her world view only a tiny subset of mostly homosexual women are not NPCs) and also to explain why this attitude lets moids off the hook for crimes. If someone let their pet cat out and it killed a mouse just for fun, you presumably would not want the cat put down, you would want the owner punished (kek sorry repost because I think 'put down' was an exaggeration). If a moid goes out and kills a person or animal just for fun, he should be put down, because he has free will. If the idea that moids are just wild animals is true, it follows that every anon's father along with every other moid in the world should have been kept in a prison or put down at birth. Now I know you are going to say 'yes, every anon's father should have been jailed or put down at birth' and we will be at an impasse. I am also GC/radfem-leaning and 'men and women are like totally different species with entirely non-overlapping mental capabilities' is a thought that has been used to harm women for thousands of years, so I would want to see a really compelling argument for this idea before I believed it.
No. 2565343
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>>2565279>So basically no, it's just 'because I said so.' More so because of this actually
No. 2565358
>>2565120babes, what? why are you so mad. i never said i TELL my straight friends my opinions, that would be stupid and harmful.
>I believe humans have free will and a conscienceok then WHY do they choose to kill and rape so much. Why! if all humans have equal capability to hurt each other, why do men do it so disproportionately?? to their partners, mothers, daughters, friends??
>I have actually been harmed (in fairly horrific fashion) in at least one of my relationships with womenme too, hey, small world! i've been hurt more consistently by women because i choose to be around them damn near exclusively. my most traumatic events have been done unto me by women but i still can see males for what they are. i don't understand how that's supposed to be a gotcha like… yeah most of us have been harmed by women to some degree. and yet men still commit 99% of the world's crime. your point?
>>2565322>the purpose of my post was to explain to that anon how and why her attitude also patronizes and dehumanizes her female friends (if XYs have no interiority, then it would follow that the vast majority of heterosexual women also have no interiority)that's a lot of words i didn't say. i have always said that men exclusively are not people and i can understand that women, with their empathy, imprint their humanity onto men. that's why i said hetero behavior is mostly ignorance. but now that you put it that way, yeah, i guess my true real unpopular opinion is that lesbians do possess more interiority since they aren't giving so much space, time, attention, and care to parasites. cool! i learned something new about myself today.
No. 2565366
>>2565358I'm not mad, I'm explaining why I think it's condescending since you said it isn't meant to be condescending. I longposted because as you can see from the posts replying to mine, people in this thread will twist anything you say to start an infight, so I feel the need to be excessively detailed and clear when I post unpoopular opinions like 'some moids think.'
>ok then WHY do they choose to kill and rape so much. Because they're evil, nonna. Everyone has the capacity for evil but males are much more likely to be evil than women. I don't actually know why, I would really love to know why but I don't think this question has ever been answered definitively. Maybe some day science will reach a good explanation.
>i've been hurt more consistently by women because i choose to be around them damn near exclusively. I mean, same. And of course I know if I chose to be around men more I would be hurt by men more than women. It's not a gotcha, my point was that people who have been hurt by someone often develop a filtering system or better instincts to keep themselves safe by avoiding dangerous individuals, rather than just filtering in an extremely broad-strokes way like 'I will avoid all people of X sex' or 'I will avoid all people of X nationality' or 'I will avoid all people of X profession.' Like I know police officers are actually more likely to have violent proclivities than average, but I would still not avoid all police officers in all situations. This seems to be the crux of our disagreement, because you think that anyone who has developed instincts about how to keep themselves safe based on individual observations is delusional or lying, and I don't believe that. I think many people are stupid and naive, but I don't automatically assume that about everybody.
>i have always said that men exclusively are not people and i can understand that women, with their empathy, imprint their humanity onto men. If women actually have interiority and theory of mind, they should be capable of recognizing if they are dealing with another person with interiority or an NPC. Are you saying you are one of the only women in the world with this ability?
No. 2565377
>>2565322>I am not caping for men, the purpose of my post was to explain to that anon how and why her attitude also patronizes and dehumanizes her female friendsMen being subhuman predators whose purpose revolves around hunting and hurting women doesn't take away from women being actual people capable of empathy and deeper thought
>If a moid goes out and kills a person or animal just for fun, he should be put down, because he has free will.No, he should be put down because the women, children and animals he attacked are hurt usually in a sadistic way, the same way if a rabid dog was the one attacking he should be put down too. A cat killing a mouse or a bird is not comparable to a moid killing a woman. Do you think killing a mosquito is violent too? Kek
>'men and women are like totally different species with entirely non-overlapping mental capabilities' is a thought that has been used to harm women for thousands of yearsBiologically men and women are the same species sure, but they absolutely are completely different given the difference in behaviours, with scrotes being closer to a violent ape than a human capable of being civilized. Scrotes will always find a way to hurt women because they simply hate and want to hurt women, not because of some random shit they heard or read somewhere. If someone hears the sentence "men and women are completely different" and immediately goes to "men good and smart, woman stupid and incubator" that person already hated women and thought of them as inferior. Do you believe in the socialization meme too?
No. 2565379
>>2565307You're not wrong.
My unpopular opinion is that some women make themselves look like troons, and it shouldn't be taboo to say as such. She looks like a tranny.
No. 2565387
>>2565377>Men being subhuman predators whose purpose revolves around hunting and hurting women doesn't take away from women being actual people capable of empathy and deeper thoughtI already explained, at least three times now, that in my opinion, if you have a heterosexual female friend who thinks her boyfriend is a 'real person' with interiority, and you think moids by definition can't have interiority, then you also think your female friend does not have interiority. Because interiority requires theory of mind and the ability to recognize interiority in others. It was the inherent condescension of 'I have all these straight friends and they're all delusional morons who can't recognize if someone is a person or not' that bothered me, not the slander of men. I slander men all the time, but if I thought this about one of my female friends I would seriously reconsider being friends with her since I don't want to condescend to people I'm friends with by considering them functionally NPCs.
>A cat killing a mouse or a bird is not comparable to a moid killing a woman.>rabid dogThe reason I gave the cat example is that cats kill sadistically, without eating their kills. I would not consider a cat evil for 'sadistically' killing out of instinct, while I would consider a moid evil for killing a mouse 'sadistically.'
>Do you believe in the socialization meme too?No I don't, as you would know if you had bothered reading my entire post since I said it right there.
No. 2565390
>>2565366gonna break this down for you. i believe that women, because they are people and possess interiority, cannot imagine a human being who does not possess interiority, thus they project their humanity onto those undeserving. men simultaneously project their lack of humanity onto women.
>Everyone has the capacity for evil but males are much more likely to be evil than women. I don't actually know why,okay so men are Mysteriously more evil than women, to the extent that you and i agree there is some scientific explanation behind it, you and i agree it isn't woo-woo, there is genuinely something wrong with men that makes them predispositioned to being evil, something mysteriously only present in males, something intrinsic to being an XY, and somehow im the wrong one for thinking men aren't people. ok.
No. 2565393
>>2565307You're not wrong.
My unpopular opinion is that some women make themselves look like troons, and it shouldn't be taboo to say as such. She looks like a tranny.
No. 2565396
>>2565390I don't buy your argument maybe because I think some 'people' (both men and women) don't really possess true interiority. So if I don't believe all people by default possess real interiority, why would I automatically project interiority on someone? I don't believe you can have true interiority and theory of mind if you just project yourself on others, that's how I would define a lack of interiority. Recognizing that others are not exactly like me is, to me, a big part of what I consider 'interiority.'
>there is genuinely something wrong with men that makes them predispositioned to being evil, something mysteriously only present in malesNo, I don't agree with that. It is present in females too, just at much lower rates. And it isn't present to the same degree in all males.
No. 2565408
>>2565399Not all males rape and torture, that's why I said 'more likely.' The majority of males do not do the crimes listed in your picrel, although of the people that do those crimes, it is mostly males. Hence, males are far more LIKELY to be evil, but not guaranteed, and it isn't unheard-of in women either, who can also be psychopathic.
Let me use a very mild example. I was friends with a woman who was booked for DUI. Does that mean she has no interiority, intelligence, or personality? Does everyone who has never been booked for these crimes automatically possess interiority, intelligence, and personality? Generalizations are extremely useful, but overgeneralizations bother me because they are inherently illogical.
Let's take another example. Most women have children, even those that are given a choice. (Since you don't believe in socialization theory, let's not use it as an excuse). Does this mean conservatives are right that the inherent purpose of women is to have babies? Does it mean every single woman wants to have babies deep down?
No. 2565418
>>2565396Nta but the majority of scrotes don't possess much interiority at all regardless of their opinion on women. You're projecting your humanity and interiority on to scrotes and writing walls of texts because you got offended over some anon pointing out scrotes aren't people for acting like the violent apes they are.
>No, I don't agree with that. It is present in females too, just at much lower rates. And it isn't present to the same degree in all males.>w-women do it too!You cannot be serious with this shit
No. 2565421
>>2565391If I told you, for example, that my dad had never said any 'offhand shit' that was misogynistic, and I had never seen him mistreating a woman, and he always did more than half of the housework and childcare, supported me in all my career goals, and his favorite artist was a woman, would you say 'okay then, maybe it's possible your dad is not a raging misogynist?' My suspicion based on this conversation, and I could be wrong, is that then you would say either 'you just can't recognize sexism and that's why you think that' or 'he lives a double life that you don't know about for sure, and he's a liar.' Am I wrong in assuming this?
No. 2565436
>>2565421>'you just can't recognize sexism and that's why you think that' This is common for women and possibly also you since you seem so persistent to prove that scrotes comitting more than 90% of rape is just "more likely to be evil but women can do it too!!"
>or 'he lives a double life that you don't know about for sure, and he's a liar.'Scrotes usually keep quiet when women are around and feel more comfortable being misogynistic when they're only around males, ever heard of "locker room talk"?
No. 2565451
>>2565441It's not being condescending though, it's just the truth. I'm not better than a woman who is a millionaire doctor who went to Harvard because she believes that "not all men" are misogynistic, we just have a different opinion. Scrotes go out of their way with new trends and technology to chase after their degeneracy wishes which women, children and even animals are the
victims of. Do you think the only reason i don't think scrotes are people and women are mega coping about them is to one up other women and not because of countless evidence of men being degenerates and predators?
No. 2565460
>>2565451It is condescension imo. Looking in on someone's life from the outside, or talking to someone you know literally nothing about, and telling them that your guesses about their experiences are more real and true than their interpretations of their own experiences just because you know you're right because because, is condescending. I'm not even saying it's always wrong to be condescending, but this type of argument always leads to the eventual admission (like what OP admitted) that
>yeah, i guess my true real unpopular opinion is that lesbians do possess more interiorityor some variant of same. Basically, I'm actually more human than you, yes.
The reason I brought up the dad example (not a true story, by the way, just an example) is because it demonstrates that the argument structure is always a trap in which the person being condescended to can't win. You've never met me, you have no idea about my hypothetical dad, but just on the basis of me saying I've never seen any misogyny and only the opposite from my hypothetical dad, the response is 'see, the fact you're defending a male means you can't recognize sexism like I can.' The ultimate conclusion is always 'because you are saying you know your own life better, you are delusional. The fact you think something about your own life I consider (from my own equally limited personal experience) impossible actually proves you are delusional and I'm correct.'
>Do you think the only reason i don't think scrotes are people and women are mega coping about them is to one up other women and not because of countless evidence of men being degenerates and predators?No, I don't think that's the only reason. I probably 95% of the way agree with you about moids so I know it is very unlikely to be the only reason. But the outcome is the same, which is that you consider your own personal experience (and interpretation of the world) more important and correct than other people's, to the point that you engage in conversational traps where there is no way for the other person to ever convince you they know their own life better than you do.
No. 2565462
>>2565431Actually op said
>not to mention how men are incapable of possessing personality, intelligence, and interiorityShe never said anything about women not having interiority. Women are
capable of interiority, but if all women started to actually think about who scrotes really are it would just cause mass depression. There are also other things at hand like socialization and society being extremely against being critical of moids that stop women from reaching such conclusions because they don't want to wrong-think. It's just easier for a woman's psyche and for society to not collapse if women delude themselves that men actually love them, don't consider them beneath them and aren't at their core, predators.
No. 2565466
>>2565431oh anon. i'm sorry you got your feelings hurt so bad by my saying men aren't people on the internet. you don't believe that i believe women have interiority just because i think they pick shitty people to be around (XYs) but this conversation proves again to me that women have interiority. only a woman would have the potential to care this much.
>>2565421what the hell does your dad being a raging misogynist have to do with interiority, kekkk. i just don't think bepenised individuals have thoughts or personalities. this is commonly expressed through abuse against women and children and animals but otherwise manifests as being a blank slate which is what men are. if they arent committing literal crimes against humanity theyre just being boring and thoughtless
No. 2565471
>>2565462At the very least she's implying her female friends don't possess interiority, which she later admitted.
>>2565466My feelings aren't hurt, I just think you're wrong. The 'oh sweetie sorry your feefees are hurt' schtick isn't going to work on me especially in the context of a conversation about condescension kek. You're also extremely sheltered if you think moids don't wax poetic about philosophical topics in writing for paragraphs and paragraphs. Moids have written entire long philosophy books arguing the nuances of topics way more banal than this.
>what the hell does your dad being a raging misogynist have to do with interiority, kekkk.The claim is that women who perceive a moid as having interiority or not being a raging misogynist are actually wrong, and clearly (by extension) lack the theory of mind to be able to interpret another person's actions. You're saying any woman that has considered a moid (say her dad, or maybe her professor) intelligent is actually a numbskull who can't recognize real intelligence, so by default she must be stupid.
No. 2565472
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>>2561489Enforcing the idea that sex is transactional, which leads to male resource hoarding and a general soulessness within them. If reproduction is up for scroteal purchase, scrotes will only treat women as commodities, which coincides with our human rights being stripped, as well as social isolation/mental health issues. There is in fact something wrong when you are basically telling moids that women are machines you deposit tokens into and sex comes out. Moids have been trying to manifest women existing as utility machines since the inception of their chromosome, every expression of patriarchy is the reduction of women’s humanity (freedom and independence) in favor of reducing her to a thing that men use. A machine, a farm animal, a resource to be mined. Everything to avoid contending with her humanity, her input, her decision, since that can mean incontestable rejection (scrotes fear this worse than death).
And b4 you say “you don’t pay to reproduce with prostitutes”, the monkey male brain does not register this fact. Every time sex happens, it’s an insemination opportunity. Insemination opportunities should be correlated with pleasing women/winning their favor, not exerting power over them, in this case, hoarding excess resources she needs access to.
Enough generations of this and you will breed a population of souless sex obsessed scrotes who do not see women as people.
>but they’re already like that.Exactly, because they’ve been running their patriarchy meta for so long they’ve engineered themselves to be this way. Primarily in the for, of trad marriage (in which the woman is prostituted to a single male client for cheap). If you want to reverse the effects of scroteal dysgenics, you would ban all forms of transactional/coercive sex. Prostitution is the most glaring example and can easily be regarded as immoral.
The only moralistic sex is when women have all the power/resources/control and pick the cutest moid of the litter and invite him into her chambers of her own volition. This is how you fix the moid demographic, and what they resent, and try to avoid like the plague.
If a bunch of ugly punters and soulless gooner libshit men are in full agreement with you, consider that what you believe isn’t going to benefit women in the slightest.
>but right wing chuddies hate prostitution too!No they don’t, they want to return to single client prostitution as standard. And don’t be fooled either, every single one of these men use prostitutes (if not in real life, virtual ones).
No. 2565477
>>2565469Drag is just misogynistic cosplay for sexual titillation, and it's always been that way. The most 'artistic' parts of drag I guess are being good at drag makeup, 'dancing' and lipsyncing, which are all inferior to the actual versions of those things.
>>2565474I asked you about a hypothetical situation where someone told you their dad had essentially never acted misogynistic to their knowledge and had always been extremely caring and supportive, would you still believe that woman was wrong and her dad was actually a misogynist? To which you essentially said yes. I know you're not saying other women aren't allowed to believe moids have interiority, you're just saying they are stupider than you if they do believe it.
No. 2565480
>>2565460I'm not talking about this or this way to any woman or man irl, this is a conversation for unpopular opinions on lolcow kek. And no i'm not more "human" or better because i arrived at a different conclusion than you or other women did. I'm not gonna write off women as completely stupid and delusional or not human because of one or multiple things we disagree on. I also disagree with statements like "more interiority" or "more human" because being human and having interiority is not a box to put someone on or a list to check off, they not good or bad or better or worse, they are neutral actions that have a wide range of outcomes or conclusions. I don't agree with you but i would never say you or other women that agree with you are not capable of interiority because like
>>2565466 said only someone with interiority could think about this much about something like this kek
No. 2565483
>>2565472Anon I think you're responding to a baiter, I find it hard to believe a lolcow anon genuinely has this pro-prostitution view. Great explanation/rebuttal though, regardless.
>No they don’t, they want to return to single client prostitution as standard.Not even. In 'traditional societies' men using prostitutes was fairly common, even in societies where they had access to polygamy anyway. I don't think there is really any trad precedent for moids being anti-prostitution as a group, even though some individual ones would argue against it.
No. 2565489
>>2565480Just because you don't tell your irl friends you think they're stupider and less human than you doesn't mean you don't think that. I didn't tell you not to post your opinion in the thread, I just argued against it and why I think it's a slippery slope toward disrespecting the women in your own life. You can disagree with me too, obviously here your opinion was more popular than mine so it seems like my posts are also in the correct thread.
>being human and having interiority is not a box to put someone on or a list to check offI was responding to posts claiming that some humans 'aren't really people' or 'don't have interiority' so if you don't believe in those kinds of distinctions I don't know why you are arguing with me at all.
No. 2565492
>>2565477>To which you essentially said yeswhere? i didn't even respond except to ask what that point had to do with anything. there are other anons in this conversation…
>you're just saying they are stupider than you if they do believe it.i also straight up didn't say this kek, i made one joke about how you keep saying that i MUST believe lesbians are better and more rich than OSAs. omg. if anything this conversation made me reflect and realize that women have been projecting onto men, and that THAT'S why they defend and love them, which actually made me sympathize more. it makes sense to me more, now i get the
why.
No. 2565496
>>2565489>Just because you don't tell your irl friends you think they're stupider and less human than you doesn't mean you don't think that.I never said that or think that, we have a different perspective on scrotes, that's it. I don't know why you want to die on this hill.
>I was responding to posts claiming that some humans 'aren't really people' or 'don't have interiority' so if you don't believe in those kinds of distinctions I don't know why you are arguing with me at all.Women are people and men aren't because they rape women and children on droves, simple as
No. 2565500
>>2565492Sorry, wrong anon then. The anon who responded to my dad hypothetical essentially said yes. You were responding as if you were that anon and didn't say NTA so I thought it was you.
>if anything this conversation made me reflect and realize that women have been projecting onto men, and that THAT'S why they defend and love themSo essentially women don't have real theory of mind, and are incapable of imagining other people have different motivations and thoughts than them. Got it.
>>2565493Okay, hi anon who was the one who responded to that. I think that if someone tells me 'I'm capable of discerning whether someone else is intelligent, but you're not,' they're actually implying quite heavily I'm less intelligent. If someone tells me 'I can recognize woman hating behavior and you can't, in fact I don't even need any examples of your dad's behavior to know for sure that your impression of him is wrong,' they're actually heavily implying I either don't understand/can't recognize what misogyny is or that I'm stupid and naive. Etc. I'm not saying you said women 'revolve around' their ability to interact with men, I'm saying that the implication a stranger is unable to discern personality, intelligence, interiority, misogyny, etc. in other people is inherently patronizing and suggests that you think the person is stupider, less perceptive, and so on and so forth, than you are.
It seems like our approaches are simply different. When I have female friends who I see 'fawning' toward men, excusing actual bad behavior of their male partners or relatives, etc. I do believe that they are not as able to discern the man's motives than I am, or that they are in denial for some reason, maybe instrumentally to make their lives more comfortable. I need to see evidence that the woman actually capes for or excuses or doesn't notice the male's bad actions. If I have a friend who tells me some man in her life (like her dad, boyfriend, etc) has never exhibited these behaviors, and I have never seen him exhibiting them, and I believe her to be an intelligent person with good judgment, I try to believe her by default because in my opinion that shows basic respect. I respect the women I know enough that, in absence of evidence that the moid they're talking about has actually done these bad things, I assume their judgment about people they know is likely more correct than mine. I think this entire conversation revolves around the level of respect you have for your female friends and their judgment.
No. 2565561
>>2565525Okay let me just try giving another hypothetical to explain why this position bothers me, because again it seems like you are focusing on the aggregate male behavior (which I agree, is much worse than women's and I don't believe it's just purely due to socialization alone, but I also don't believe that male and female cognition are totally nonoverlapping). I actually probably agree with you more than I'm letting on here and I'm really arguing this because it bothers me on a fundamental intellectual level based on what the idea suggests about women (in this case, women "you" are actually friends with rather than just hypothetical stupid women).
Let's say I had dated woman X and man Y in the past. I dated both of them for around 1 year, but I knew each of them for 1-2 years prior to dating them and had seen how they acted around other people before I decided to date them. Both the breakups were amicable because of lifestyle differences. Now if I told you that I considered both woman X and man Y to be similarly intelligent, and had similarly interesting conversations with them both regularly on similar topics (politics, art, history, current events, the meaning of life, how to live well, all that normal stuff) and both expressed similarly considered and original opinions, and that both of them never really mistreated me beyond mildly hurting my feelings sometimes or being grumpy on dates because something bad happened at work, that both of them were equally willing to put effort in to the relationship (like cooking me nice dinners, taking me to concerts they thought I might like, and also coming to things I wanted to see like art shows or concerts or my other friends' parties), both of them got along equally with my friends and got approval from my friends, I thought both of them had equally good personalities, neither of them ever pressured me into sex, and both of them were similarly supportive when I had something bad going on in my life and never used it against me. I asked both of them for big favors exactly one time (say, helping me rent a uhaul and move all my furniture) and they both eagerly helped me. After the breakup they both spoke highly of me to mutual friends, continued to do me favors occasionally and seemed to move onto other happy relationships with other women.
In this hypothetical if a person tells me 'men have no personality, intelligence, or interiority' what am I supposed to think about my experiences of both relationships? I thought the woman was intelligent, but I thought the man was equally intelligent, so was the woman not intelligent either? Am I not intelligent enough to tell the difference? I thought they both had good personalities and treated me kindly and in very similar ways, was my perception of their good intentions wrong for only the moid, or for both of them? Can I not tell if a person has a personality or inner life or not? Am I just projecting myself on everybody? Could I just have a relationship with a tree stump and think it had a great personality and was intelligent? Well, I know the answer to that one is no, because in this hypothetical I also had bad relationships in the past to compare the good ones to. So I know it's possible for me to date people I think have a bad personality or people I don't think are smart. What's so internally wrong with me that I think I can tell the difference between two people's intelligence levels when I clearly can't? If the moid is just a rapist who wanted sex from me, why didn't he ever pressure me into sex? Was the woman also playing the long game, wanting to pressure me into sex just like the moid secretly was, since neither of them actually pressured me?
It's a maddening premise that, if you were to actually believe, would lead to you gaslighting yourself and mistrusting all your instincts. When someone else is trying to convince you of this externally, it would feel like they're telling you you're a total idiot who lacks any ability to judge situations. Should I not choose my dating partners, and just let someone else choose them for me instead?
No. 2565742
>>2565500>>if anything this conversation made me reflect and realize that women have been projecting onto men, and that THAT'S why they defend and love them>So essentially women don't have real theory of mind, and are incapable of imagining other people have different motivations and thoughts than them. Got it.This is actually what empathy is (not the colloquial ‘imagine being in someone else’s shoes’ or ‘treat others as you wish to be treated’. It’s actually creating an accurate model of another person’s mental framework, including what motivates them)). Women are much better at it. Notice how males spent a millennia trying to understand women just to conclude “they are all malicious and/or irrational”. Rather than observing this as an obvious example of moid cognitive deficits, moid logics (magical thinking, in actuality) is accepted as fact.
It’s moids that lack theory of mind and empathy skills. They are mentally isolated from anyone living a completely separate experience from their own. It’s hard enough for them to understand their fellow man, nearly impossible for most of them to grasp what it is like going through the world as a woman.
I hate BP misogynistic women who just take moid fairytales at face value. Men told you what you were, in all of their infinite retardation, and you accepted it. I expect better of women. Drop the self pitying copes and disregard ALL male bullshit.
No. 2565823
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>>2565819This sounds so depressing. I know you all hate vegans and plants or fruits and vegetables but every time a chubby omnivore talks about coping with not eating food, it makes me depressed
No. 2565826
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>>2565825As long as it isn't a famine and suffering thing, then okay
No. 2565832
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>>2565827Which anon are you?
No. 2565911
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Scrotes are pedophiles at a higher percentage: faggots and single men should not be able to adopt any kind of child.
No. 2565917
>>2565825Right but the data generally favors the numerous-light-meals hypothesis, because big meals are more likely to make you tired and therefore less likely to use up the calories. Also the absolute worst time of day to have one big meal is in the evening. Breakfast or lunch are generally better if that's the route you're taking.
Additionally, a diet only works if it's a diet you can adhere to long term, so it's better to reduce the portion of chocolate cake (for instance) than it is to cut it out of your diet entirely.
No. 2565922
>>2565918How is it confirmation bias when pedophiles are men in 99% of cases?
It never made sense to me to give a child to a random man, let alone two.
No. 2565947
>>2565936They're usually jealous of being able to do fuckall, which is fair. The only
valid criticism I've seen is that NEETs leech off of their loved ones (especially older parents). I was a NEET for a short while and still feel guilt about it even now.
No. 2565949
>>2565936No, people clown on NEETs because by necessity they must be relying on someone else's money. So while they smugly brag about how they get to play vidya all day, they're forcing someone else to be a wageslave for their benefit.
I'd have no problem with a financially independent NEET or one who can reasonably be entitled to benefits though. Doing nothing is a dream, it just shouldn't be at the expense of someone else.
No. 2566051
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>>2565981It can be and doesn’t have to be
problematic. But people exaggerate the problems of plastic surgery a lot here. I get the issues with it, but I’ve even heard people saying once you get one procedure you’ll have to keep getting them because you’ll get addicted to changing your body and you’ll never be happy which is such a weird cope kek, be so for real.
I had one procedure for both health and aesthetic reasons and it was the only one I ever got. It turned out fine even though everyone tried to scare me out of it by saying I will need multiple and never be happy. I don’t have BDD, I just had breathing problems and my nose was very clearly broken and growing in weird.
Most patients are normal people who wait their whole lives being bothered by something and then get surgery for it once they tire of it. 90% of clinic before/afters are middle aged men and women removing big meaty moles and correcting deviated septums, and they look normal later even though there are anons here screeching how “you can always telllll”. Most people in the world aren’t celebrities or instagram bimbos with BDD, and not every opinion needs to be black and white.
No. 2566145
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>>2566122This is how they all behave when you criticize in any way kinks kek
>you’ve never had sex reee>I can tell you don’t fuck! No. 2566245
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Black is the worst color you can pair pink with. It's been overdone, looks cheap (especially bright pink); I blame egirls and kuromi lovers for this.
No. 2566585
>>2566523 >my non sexual personalityStop it, Get some help kek
We label everything to hell and back but unless you're hanging from the ceiling.. kinky people who'd scoff at us for being so uncomfy at their antics would equally scoff at you for thinking you pass the sub test. Then they'd call you a boring ass vanilla starfish or some shit. Just carry on what you're doing if it suits you and don't take on the tarded labels. Also stop saying you have a sexual personality and a non sexual personality. People do different shit in the bedroom than they do in the office. It's not a 2nd personality.
No. 2566644
>>2566584Veganism seems like a great way to get fat to me, I'd end up eating some form of bread for every meal.
My mom is vegan and she spends a lot of time cooking lentils, curries etc so that she doesn't have to subsist on veggies alone, but I cbf with all that effort to be healthy and eat well when I can just eat meat for protein instead.
No. 2566707
>>2566680thats why it's always so strange and inorganic feeling to me when
woc on reddit or whatever say that they trust white men more than white women. like…its white men who are the ones laughing at your murder and rape stories. when that indian woman died by falling into an oven all i saw was white moids on twitter making jokes about the smell or thinking it was hilarious and saying good riddance. white men dont care about
woc at all outside of perceiving
woc as easy sex (and white men also encourage
woc to hate themselves and be white worshipping as it benefits themselves to have
woc with low standards begging to be picked when those men cant find a white wife or sexual partner)
No. 2566729
>>2566707My guess is it's because most
woc don't lurk racist white male spaces much and so they don't get to see what men actually think of them. Or the self hate brainrot has gone to their heads so much that they think getting picked by an ugly white moid for reenact his slave roleplay is a compliment somehow even though men would fuck a McChicken.
No. 2567036
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>>2567025Normalize asking a guy out, paying for his dinner, and acting pissy when you don't get sex afterwards.
No. 2567044
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>>2567011>I want the moid to do everythingtotal pickme opinion
No. 2567075
>>2566051>there are anons here screeching how “you can always telllll”.This happens in real life too. I've been in several situations where I've had to listen to people rattle on about how they can "alwaaaays tell" when people have had plastic surgery, while talking to me who has had several cosmetic procedures. I like to play along and agree to see how deranged they get about it for a laugh.
Unless it's a really drastic change, few people will notice anyway. I have family members that were shocked to hear that I had had a rhinoplasty, even after seeing me frequently before and after I got it done. "I knew there was something different about you, but I wouldn't have guessed that," is the usual line.
It sounds kinda mean, but it definitely feels like the people that are most vocal about being against plastic surgery are the people that are the most self-conscious about their looks (or have been in the past) and trying to project their feelings of inadequacy onto others. It even happens in the plastic surgery thread on /g/ - anons will be talking about Botox or something and some random will walk in and start posting photos from /r/botched and rambling about how horrible plastic surgery is. It's weird that the choices of other people impact them so greatly.
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>>2567106If the shoe fits, wear it.
No. 2567259
>>2565733>>2565737NTA but the children of alcoholics are often traumatized and can have health issues like FAS, grow up and pass on the alcoholism again etc. I think on a society wide level it's more harmful whereas anorexia is more harmful to the individual.
Since severe anorexics are infertile (and lets be honest, many don't even date due to their issues taking over their lives) usually only her parents who are stuck caretaking forever, suffer, or maybe she is placed under medical supervision
There's also a subcategory of alcoholic anas that get all their calories that way, some cows are like this and I've seen it IRL unfortunately. I think this is/was more common with millennials though
No. 2567364
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>>2567044Not you again please. GO AWAY RETARD. Yes women are pickmes when they don’t chase men, yes you should do the picking , yes propose to that man. Fine now? Go away.
(infighting) No. 2567396
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Mint chocolate ice cream is gross and makes zero sense. First of all why would you mix MINT with a milk based dessert and second of all why add chocolate. You lack taste if you enjoy mint chocolate ice cream and you probably ate ketchup sandwiches as a child.
No. 2567415
>>2567396I like choco mint ice cream, but I don't like the flavor in anything else lol
hate ketchup in all forms tho
No. 2567434
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>>2567396Can't relate flavourphobic retard, all ice-cream is good. It's the only good thing about summer, if only it wasn't so expensive now..
No. 2567455
>>2567434>It's the only good thing about summerHow fat do you have to be to say this?
>it wasn't so expensive now..It's not expensive at all
No. 2567499
>>2567481I'm a bong who has never left the country kek I know it's hard for you guys to conceptualise a world outside of yourselves so I'll give you some grace.
>>2567485I live in a middle class neighbourhood in a pretty populated southern (which is the posher part of the UK) town. I said fly-infested and smelly because I take trains and buses frequently. I also like to keep the door to my back garden open when it's sunny and only during the Summer I am bothered by flies coming in. Can't even eat food/BBQ outside to enjoy the weather because you need to watch your food all the time, it sucks. Cocktail parties sound fun, good for you, are you wealthy? I haven't heard of those being exclusive to Summer, though, must be a regional thing.
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The internet would be a better place if traumatised or mentally ill people weren't allowed to post their opinions until they healed.
No. 2567571
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>>2567455You can enjoy ice-cream every once in a while without being fat. I know that the concept of self-control is a foreign one to some people though.
No. 2567589
>>2567584I think it
could be traumatic if your parents were having meltdowns over the divorce and using you as a bargaining chip to get back at each other.
No. 2567600
>>2567584It was my step mom and dad who divorced but I loved my step mom and half-siblings. They divorced because my dad was
abusive and there was a big human rights violation lawsuit and I wasn't allowed to see my family anymore. My biological mom would try to fill my head with hatred against them but it never worked because I knew they were the
victims and my dad was the bad guy. He turned on me and my mom after that.
No. 2567608
>>2567543Depends on the location, chain stores yes and they never break but if you are shopping at a local store it's unlikely. That kind of applies to everything apart from pubs, no pub in my area has AC but you're usually supposed to sit outside during the Summer (some pubs have a cover over their dining area! I love that). Libraries are stuffy, as are bars. Obviously public transport too, go with buses over trains if you can't walk or taxi. Where'd you like to go for the holiday in theory? I imagine a more rural/countryside area would have much less AC so cities would be best for where you're staying, and just visit those places as day trips.
>>2567562I get it, still not American though kek. Americans are uniquely annoying it's why they have that kind of reputation.
>>2567584Not true at all for women, especially if you were a child during the divorce. Your life splits in two and both parents that you presumably love and spent time with frequently together are now avoiding each other/only put up with it "for you" (bringing along feelings of burden). The high stress environment could be traumatic. There's also the potential new partners to consider, aren't step-parents stereotypically awful too? You mentioned scrotes, though, and they aren't human so do not experience emotion or rationale. It reminds me of when scrotes think their dog dying is trauma, and they were like 14 at the time.
No. 2567654
>>2567571>the best part of summerNo food is the best part of any season to me bc food is food
>>2567644>offspringNot sure if you mean "at any point in life" - which would be most people. Or much less people with "at conception" (teen pregnancies, drunken date nights and oops babies) Yes, that would suck very much and I think people can always sort of tell
No. 2567681
>>2567666I think her point was that people very rarely hate each other when they first get together, and sometimes they come to respect or be somewhat friends long after they divorce. Saying “two people who hate each other” implies that it’s a fixed and permanent thing, when people’s feelings toward each other can change over time.
But yeah obviously if they hate each other while you’re growing up and don’t bother to hide it it’s going to impact you.
No. 2567691
>>2567685I have seen people show such little empathy towards the
victims of the recent Air India crash that it depresses me. I understand having criticisms for their culture, but at least have some respect towards the hundreds of people who have died.
No. 2567692
>>2567682Thank you, finally some sense. I can see why people hate the scrotes but that's never the case outside of LC. You can't appreciate any of the culture or country without having to deal with it. Scary how normal dehumanising Indian people has become, I worry for Indian women.
>>2567685Agreed. They already have to deal with the moids, they should be left alone.
No. 2567752
>>2567424Based anon. Mint chocolate chip is my favorite and bubblegum is indeed the worst flavor ever made.
>>2567396I can't help but think this is ruse to flush out heathersparkles since she's been chowing down on the mint chip lately.
No. 2567830
>>2567814they whisper because their ears are more sensitive being tuned to peaceful environments with barely any ambient life sounds, maybe faint classical music
being poor is quite noisy and chaotic
No. 2567965
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Cinched, "snatched", too tight, or very figure hugging outfits are overrated. I really don't get the appeal at all, I think a little flow makes things better.
No. 2568020
>>2567971Nah, it's codependency and fear. There's a specific breed of handmaiden who genuinely thinks that having a rapist wife-and-child-batterer in the house will be good for the children, because a single mother simply cannot raise a family without the firm hand of a man to guide her. Besides, she was raised to think that, and it's wrong to question the teachings of the elders (equally retarded and awful parents).
There are narcissists and BPD chans too but they're not going to stay together for the kids, they stay together for the drama. The kids are collateral damage, living shields, and accessories that get them even more attention.
No. 2568058
White people really hype Tate McRae up as a good dancer but this is how she looks when she’s dancing imo. She looks goofy.
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>>2568104I use a lot of cat reaction pics, do you think I am spiritually aligned with cats?
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Everyone in the metal music community is shitting on this cover for looking cringe and faggy but I really like it. I'd like to have a romantic knight on bed of roses irl.
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i feel like ill get accused of being a moid for this but i legit do not find tall guys attractive. the only guys ive been attracted to in my life were like 5'7-5'9. a guy being taller than that is a negative to me
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I still feel like suicide is selfish.
Rationally, I know that's a really emotionally unintelligent stance to have, because it assumes that the person is capable of thinking rationally when they obviously aren't. Would it be better to say that the mental illness is causing the person to think in self-centered ways when they ordinarily wouldn't? Fundamentally, isn't suicide basically a person prioritizing their own pain over literally everyone else's emotions? Obviously it's not a conscious decision, it's a cognitive distortion brought on by mental illness, but on a fundamental level it's still self-absorbed, if not necessarily selfish. I think mental illness generally causes people to be more self-absorbed than they would be if they were healthy.
Not necessarily an unpopular opinion, it's more something I'm looking to change my view on and I want someone to give me good reasons to.
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Chubby feminine girls are so cute, I really don't understand why I'm always the one thinking they are cuter than skinny women. Don't get me wrong, both are beautiful (as long as they are beautiful kek) but to me slim/skinny girls look…okay.
No. 2568256
>>2568219>if you consider yourself and your own feelings first when somebody close to you commits suicide, it is also self-centered, no?That's a good point. I guess there's a point at which the whole "selfishness" question becomes a bit of a trolley car problem, where it becomes a question of whether it's better for one person to "suffer" because they want to die, or many people to "suffer" because they're grieving that person.
>I am not talking about the cases when somebody kills themselves and they have a young child that they need to take care of.I know you aren't, but it's funny you mentioned this, because the thing that made me revisit the "is suicide selfish" question was reading a post on Reddit from someone who said his dad killed himself a few days after his mom died of illness, leaving him orphaned at age 13. But that's a pretty unique case, I feel like most suicides deaths aren't of people with dependent children.
No. 2568276
>>2568213> isn't suicide basically a person prioritizing their own pain over literally everyone else's emotions? Isn’t that why we do everything anyway? We apply for a job position even though that’d mean other people will remain jobless
because we’re prioritizing ourselves, we spent our money on food for ourselves
because we prioritize our hunger before other’s, we buy clothing and trinkets from exploited people on exploited countries because we’re prioritizing our needs and desires. Literally everything we do serves, by default, a selfish interest. Of course someone who’s in such tremendous pain the natural self preservation instinct flies out of the window will act on the same selfish interests they did when they were alive. Most choices we make to feel better are selfish, it’s animal nature to put our comfort before anyone else’s.
No. 2568357
>>2568262Not for me personally, but maybe for the people who love them? But that depends on the person, the severity of their illness, and the particular people around them. And this whole premise sort of supposes that "suffering with mental illness" and "traumatizing everyone who loves you by killing yourself" are the only options. Obviously there's medication and therapy, but increasing the size of your social support network and improving your physiological health (eating better, spending more time outside) play important roles as well. Too many medical providers just throw pills at these problems when mental health issues clearly require multi-pronged approaches.
>>2568276The idea that suicide is just "ending the suffering" of one person at the cost of "just" causing others grief is an oversimplification. Suicide contaigon is a thing for a reason; suppose one person commits suicide in part because of under-addressed trauma. That then traumatizes those closest to the person, increasing the risk of suicide for
those people. It causes a ripple affect of trauma and mental illness. So it's not like taking a job someone else won't get. It's more like going to work when you know you're sick and contagious. Sure, you have a good reason for going to work, but you're also exposing a bunch of other people to the exact same problem. Any problem you have with missing work is a problem you're potentially creating for several of your coworkers. Except with suicide it's arguably worse, because instead of just inconveniencing the random assholes you work with, you're severely traumatizing the people you love most, especially whichever poor person finds your body.
Mental illness can create bouts of profoundly antisocial, impulsive behavior in otherwise decent people, and so far I find that the most compelling argument for why suicide isn't necessarily selfish. It's sort of similar to how a woman experiencing severe PPD wouldn't normally feel emotionally detached from her baby or partner– she's just being compelled to act that way by a temporary chemical problem in her brain.
No. 2568564
>>2568357>Not for me personally, but maybe for the people who love them?No shit, that's what i'm referring to. Sure people love them, but they don't have to live as the person who is suicidal and with whatever mental conflict led them there.
>But that depends on the person, the severity of their illness, and the particular people around them. And this whole premise sort of supposes that "suffering with mental illness" and "traumatizing everyone who loves you by killing yourself" are the only options. Obviously there's medication and therapy, but increasing the size of your social support network and improving your physiological health (eating better, spending more time outside) play important roles as well. Too many medical providers just throw pills at these problems when mental health issues clearly require multi-pronged approachesThere is not much else mental health providers can do other than medication and therapy, they can't control the environments of their patients and hold their hand through life and you can't force the people around them to do so either.
>Suicide contaigon is a thing for a reason; suppose one person commits suicide in part because of under-addressed trauma. That then traumatizes those closest to the person, increasing the risk of suicide for those people. It causes a ripple affect of trauma and mental illness.>with suicide it's arguably worse, because instead of just inconveniencing the random assholes you work with, you're severely traumatizing the people you love most, especially whichever poor person finds your body.That sucks man, but the person who comitted suicide is not responsible for the mental health of other people.
>And this whole premise sort of supposes that "suffering with mental illness" and "traumatizing everyone who loves you by killing yourself" are the only options.Back to this, what other options are there? Pulling yourself by the bootstraps and live just because? Kek some people just don't like or enjoy life no matter what they do because they're simply retarded, autistic and don't fit in with their peers so they can never get through life.
No. 2568575
>>2568049They're always traumatised and/or too dysgenic to get laid by normal means and unpleasantly sexually frustrated, that's why.
>>2568083I think you're spending
way too much time in the UMPO thread and I'm saying that as someone who posts in there quite a lot.
No. 2568595
>>2568575I don't go there that much. I'm just tired of seeing ugly scrotes
everywhere. To see ugly women you have to specifically search for it and often times it's some uggocrop or some poor girl with down syndrome but men look straight up disgusting, like actually repulsive like a tumour or an anmputated infected limb.
No. 2568695
>>2568058As a melaninated person, I think the obsession with attributing good or bad dancing to race is retarded af and obviously
poc overcompensating trying to prove there's something they're good at that white people aren't. Very pathetic and retarded. Unrelated but vidrel is me at 5 am when I get that random burst of energy lol.
>>2568103Britney's dancing is very graceful and pleasant to the eye, especially in her more R&B songs were her dance abilities truly shine. She also kinda has the body for it and the outfits/styling which I personally believe adds to it.
>>2568110Nta, they all probably think twerking and ass shaking=good dancing lol. That's why they have to make it about race and make it seem like only Latinas and black women can dance, because they're the ones who shake ass the most. They probably can't see the artistic or athletic side of it and following the rhythm with moves that flow nicely and are pleasant to watch. I bet they also think choreography bad. To me, western pop and R&B dancing is some of the best, I'm not fond of hiphop dancing or like the aggressive show-offy type though, very off putting. Controversial but early kpop from the 90s and 2000s to 2014 had cool dances. After that house invaded the scene and ruined everything forever and now all the dances are either sexual poses, showoff aggressive dancing, or boring interpretive dancing where they motion every lyric with their hands like some sign language interpreter.
No. 2568705
>>2568653No, where?
>>2568656They're often comorbid imo
No. 2568713
>>2568673This is the natural result of all this contrarian garbage on the internet about how “everything you’ve been told about health is wrong!!!” and the sad thing is, some retards will
believe this and start eating spoonfuls of sugar as a health snack kek
No. 2568805
Misogynistic lesbians are an understudied phenomenon, too often dismissed or handwaved because:
>How can they hate women if they want to have sex with them?>>2568746It's all part of the Ugly Male Psy-op. Never forget: when the moid breathes it isn't to fill his own lungs but a deliberate act of oxygen theft from women _ when the scrote exhales it isn't to empty then refill his lungs, it is an act of chemical and biological warfare, to shower women around them in CO² and halitosis.
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>>2568640I think we’re gonna like scientifically confirm in like 30 or so years that veganism is one of the unhealthiest things a human can do to their body. I mean, look at Morrissey…
No. 2568878
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I see fanatics thinking that Daisuke would be super duper supportive of Anya if he ever learned that she was raped. I'm one of the only people who are doubtful of this. Look at what Daisuke is. He is a late teenage, early 20-something year old slacker boy who's only here because his mom wanted him to get the fuck up and do something with his life. Dialogues make it clear that he's the type to go out drinking and partying with women (implying that he's most definitely a little manwhore). Manwhores aren't known for having entirely non-objectified outlooks on women in general. Now you have to look at his relation with the other characters and the context of this game. The dev did say that Daisuke bonded with Anya through competitive board games. That was before the crash. Daisuke is familiar with Anya, but he is still much closer with Swansea and even Jimmy. He chooses to get drunk with Swansea and have conversations with Jimmy. The fact that we never see Daisuke interact with Anya besides the last minute when she's about to kill herself tells us that he cares about her as a good acquaintance but nothing closer than that. Daisuke did crawl through the vent to save Anya, yes, but that wasn't entirely the reason. Jimmy convinced him that it was also to save Curly, and to make Swansea proud. Daisuke crawled in the vent partially to impress another man–specifically one that has made it clear he doesn't really give a fuck about Anya despite learning what happened. Jimmy was able to manipulate Daisuke into crawling through the vent when Daisuke already knew it was too dangerous. Why would it be hard for Jimmy to convince Daisuke that Anya somehow "asked for it" if Daisuke did learn that she was raped? Mouthwashing is meant to be a critique of rape culture and how men excuse other men's worst actions by assuming the best in them (Curly enabling Jimmy) and how males selfishly turn away from helping women (Swansea choosing to get drunk instead of helping her). Assuming that Daisuke would immidiately think and do right thing because "I like him, he would never think or do something fucked up" is precisely the kind of outlook that's been criticized through Curly and Jimmy's relationship. The "benefit of the doubt" attitude that the game is trying to make you see the flaws with.
No. 2568902
>>2568878You're right. The big blackpill is that Daisuke isn't unlikely to be a rapist himself. He seems like exactly the irresponsible piece of shit to have sex with a drunk woman at a party, not even parse that he did anything wrong, and if confronted, give some "Gee..I'm sorry, I didn't know" response when in reality, he genuinely wouldn't care or see anything wrong with it after it's explained.
He wouldn't have done shit if Anya told him. Not unless Swansea and/or Curly strong-armed him into turning against Jimmy.
No. 2568931
>>2568805Lesbian pickmes who get a kick out of being "one of the guys" (and therefore a more
valid human being) definitely exist and are annoying. I think when people boil down pickmeism to sexual validation, they ignore that we live in a male-dominated society, and that if you're marginalized or "weird" in some way, you're often literally a bit more likely to fall into pickmeish behaviors just to fit in.
No. 2568945
>>2568895This sperging about my singular post on this topic really makes you look insane
>how they're akshually less healthy than meat eaters is really weird and stinks of insecurity.Insecure about what
nonny?
No. 2568967
>>2568963I wasn't talking about you in particular, just the general sperging about vegans, kek.
>And also there wasn’t even very many posts made about the topic of veganism either?Let's agree to disagree, nona.
No. 2568982
>>2568975I wasn’t saying anything was deep or of importance
nonnie lol, I just find it a little funny that the a short conversation and a picture of Morrissey is what younger anons consider hamfisting and spergy behavior kek
No. 2569005
>>2568991I know, I responded to your comment, I didn’t accuse
you of sperging out at all. I was just saying that your claim made me laugh a little kek
>God your guys’ posts about veganism are just hamfisting and sperging out >The conversation was very short though>Wow you shouldn’t take things so seriously I could make the same suggestion to you anon kekk
No. 2569007
>>2569005>noooo how could you offhandedly call it sperging i only made 22 posts about my special interest in the past hour aaaaaahhhhhh nooooo my anonymous reputationNonny, please chill, kek. Your only audience on Lolcor is the jannies, and they don't really care either. Even if they did, they do it for free, so you don't need to be concerned about all that. You'll be called a sperg, a faggot, an autist, a dumb bitch, a scrote, etc for any number of reasons by any kind of anon. It was worse in 2016, you could get jumped for talking about San-X.
No. 2569014
>>2569007> i only made 22 posts about my special interest in the past hourThis doesn’t make any sense? All I did was post the picture of Morrissey in response to OP and then respond to the responses I got? I don’t think that’s ‘making 22 posts about your special interest’
>Nonny, please chill, kek. Your only audience on Lolcor is the jannies, and they don't really care eitherActually there’s no audience on LC, because it’s an imageboard kek.
No. 2569047
>>2569044Same, anon. I've literally never encountered the "preachy vegan" type, but plenty of meat eaters mad they exist.
I tried a vegetarian diet in college and some retarded moid dating my friend would do stuff like chew meat open mouth in front of me and ask if it bothers me. It was just a diet not even for ideological reasons but he was malding hard over it. I wonder what happened to that retard.
No. 2569051
>>2569044A lot of militant vegan haters are former vegans. In some cases they get bullied by the other vegans due to weird purity spiral dynamics or had to stop due to health issues. Which of course leads to some of their former friends turning on them.
Kind of like how some of the biggest anti-religion women out there come from
abusive religious families and end up assuming that all religious families are the same.
No. 2569056
>>2569044I used to eat like that because omg the poor animals. All I got was anemia, lack of B12, and constant fatigue. This was healed after I started to eat eggs, meat and fish. I now find it horrible to promote this diet to women especially. Why is women's health and well-being worth less than some random pig or egg? We are too animals, and we need proper food.
The propaganda is strong where I live, if you're not a vegan you're a social pariah in some circles.
No. 2569070
>>2569044the only preachy vegans i met were teenagers (i was one too) on their first week/month of not eating meat. i feel it's weird too to have vegans/vegetarians living rent free on their minds when they don't follow that diet. asides from sometimes saying harsh truths, most of them keep to themselves, like how you can be so
triggered some retard doesn't want to eat meat? most humans evolved to eat meat once a week/a month anyways, not like the slop they shill today is either healthy or natural, but they love to pretend it is.
i also stopped being a vegetarian because i didn't give a shit about supplements and after 5 years it was enough, but i still think the meat industry is barbaric and people need a lot of cope to pretend it isn't. now i only eat fishe because i don't think i'd be able to put down a cow, as most people also wouldn't be able to. most people buy meat mindlessly because it's packaged and sanitized kek
No. 2569077
>>2569056>>2569072I'm not vegan myself, but there are usually supplements available for B12 and other nutrients plant-based meals don't have. I don't think anyone needs to sacrifice their health for ethics, unless finances or accessibility are the issue.
Fish is getting fucked up by mercury, anyway. Things just kind of suck.
No. 2569082
>>2569064>The aspect of animals being mass bred and killed in inhumane ways and the environmental impact of the meat industry?Things like that happening doesn’t really change the fact that humans still have evolved to live off of animal products and not vegan cheese
>Some people don't want to be reminded that they're partially responsible and complacent in something bad, so they lash out at those who remind them of that. You can always choose to eat local products, also it’s not really lashing out to just state a fact
>In this case omnivors gets upset at vegans for pointing that out because they can't deny it. Pointing out that animals are factory farmed? I haven’t encountered anyone get upset at vegans for factory farming kek. It’s not really ‘getting upset’ at vegans to say that humans survive primarily off of animals, or to question if maybe veganism could be unhealthy for the human body
>If they did or didn't care about the impact, they won't be bothered in the first place. They'd just laugh and move on with their lives.They wouldn’t be bothered about factory farming? I mean, i dont really believe that many meat eaters have a significant problem with it considering companies like Tyson and other meat packing factories still exist
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>>2569085The video is a little tongue in cheek and dismissive but this line at the end of the old ONN video about those ads has always stuck with me.
No. 2569107
>>2569093>And yeah, the average meat eater who spergs about vegan bad all the time does so because they hate when vegans remind them that they're contributing to something badDo you have an example of what you’re referring to anon? Because I don’t really think anyone is saying ‘vegans are bad’ kek, they were just saying that veganism isn’t healthy for your body.
>>2569098>Supplements usually have a higher concentration than the food itself. Like I said, surviving off of supplements as opposed to eating like a normal person is 100% their prerogative
>The guts don't actually absorb much from food, it's even worse if you have IBS and colon issues and it can get to a point where supplements aren't even enough and blood infusion is the only way.That sounds very uncomfortable, I’ve never suffered from gut issues or problems with digesting food thankfully but I’d think it would be a priority to heal their intestines before trying to become vegan/taking a lot of supplements everyday. Taking a lot of supplements sounds a million times worse for the gut than just eating a steak taco
No. 2569124
>>2569121>I think you have rose-colored glasses on about what the "normal" person's diet is (it's far from balanced or healthy, and this is the result of misinformation, laziness and enshittification of all our foods)Anon, I think you’re misinterpreting my statement kek. Just because the
average person chooses to eat shit does not mean that they’re eating like a
normal person. Eating a balanced diet is eating like a
normal person, even if it may not be eating a similar diet to the
average individual.
No. 2569133
>>2569130No, youre still getting confused nona. A balanced diet, even if it’s still not consumed by the average retard, is what eating like a normal human being is. Even if it’s not commonly applied to the diet of Americans doesn’t change the fact that eating a balanced diet is eating healthy and is eating like a
normal person, even when the average person isn’t necessarily ‘normal’ just become it’s common
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>>2569137You’re right! Normal means
healthy, and eating a balanced diet is the way a normal, healthy human being eats to live our lives.
No. 2569150
>>2569142It sounds like you’re still a little confused about the statement I’m making so I’ll help you out anon; the
average person choosing to eat an unhealthy diet is accurate, the average American doesn’t always make their health a priority and many don’t even take the time to educate themselves on what a balanced diet for their body is! However, eating the proper serving sizes of meats, dairies, fruits, vegetables, and eggs is eating a
normal diet for the human body. Just because this is not applied into the lifestyle of the
average individual, does not change the fact that eating a balanced diet is still the way a
normal person is supposed to eat to continue living the healthiest possible life. Is this making more sense now? I know semantics and words can be very difficult for many anons to fully comprehend sometimes but I’m happy to continue the conversation
No. 2569178
>>2569169I understood the question very well
nonny, and I explained that eating like a normal person (a balanced diet) is what is healthy. If I were referring to the average American, then I would’ve said “eating like the average person is healthy”
>Is "normal" the same as healthy?And according to one of its multiple definitions, yes ma’am! keek
No. 2569202
>>2569198But the word normal can be used in multiple different ways though
>>2569189>>2569201Kek thank you for helping me nonna
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I love circular arguments so fucking much.
No. 2569213
>>2569205They are so retarded they end up being comical:
A woman is anyone who identifies as a woman!
No. 2569243
>>2569240You mean the
average british weight?
No. 2569260
>>2569249But in the conversation of health, when you’re using the word normal to describe a human body, a normal person would be healthy. That’s what a
normal person looks like, as we all know that being obese is not normal even if it as average or common
No. 2569269
>>2569241>innocent moidsKek'd
>daddy issues aren't realWhat? They most certainly are. If your father is
abusive or not present then you will have psychological issues. Fathers teach their daughters how men interact with women.
No. 2569294
>>2569287No it’s actually because their moids are disgusting, rude, pushy, sexually aggressive, and don’t know how to take no for an answer. For every one with a good job there’s 10 “working” as scammers and grifters that harass anyone and everyone whose contact information they’re able to get their unwashed hands on.
The women are fine though.
No. 2569311
>>2569304Retard who fights “best man Olympics” and it’s a race between a piece of chewed gum, a cigarette butt and a rotten apple.
All men are shit, there isn’t a “x man is better than x man”.
No. 2569324
>>2569314All men are like that online though. People just hate it from Indians because it comes off as corny, geeky and annoying. If white men lived in cultures where it was acceptable to rape women as much as they want with no consequences they’d be doing it too.
>>2569319Yeah but the average person who has a problem with Indians doesn’t care about that because they have a problem with the women too.
No. 2569373
>>2569363>American women who talk about hating Indians because they’re sexually aggressive have probably never experienced that irl kek“It never happened to
me, so it never happens!” You probably live in a mostly white area where the only Indians you interact with are middle to upper class. Opinion discarded.
No. 2569376
>>2569367Absolutely, I believe race and culture aren't interchangeable and it's absurd how everyone thinks otherwise.
>You can't criticise barbaric practises because that's RACISTAs opposed to letting that race of women and children suffer for no reason??
No. 2569439
i don’t find things like this funny. a little slapstick humor between friends or partners is cool but he could’ve easily broken his arm or worse. this incident in particular is likely staged but i hate being around people who find causing bodily harm to someone funny. i feel like i’m surrounded by sadists because most people think it’s hilarious to do stuff like this.
No. 2569475
>>2569466>>2569469So, logically it makes sense for all Americans born here to call ourselves Native Americans. That isn’t being obtuse, that’s following the logic you’re applying to Indians
>>2569463Mexicans are just Indians who speak Spanish
No. 2569477
>>2569472American English isn’t really a European language though
>>2569470But comparing America to like France is kind of a joke kek
No. 2569488
>>2569483I don’t think Portland, Los Angeles, Seattle, etc are very comparable to Western France though
>>2569485I also don’t think the unpopular opinions thread is the right place for me to give an English class but I do recommend doing research on the differences between English English and Burger English! It is fascinating
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>>2569488Do you think Portland, Los Angeles, and Seattle are the only places in the country?
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>>2569503I read the first sentence and it jumpscared me so bad kek I thought Eugenia died for a second
No. 2569509
>>2569503It's just performance, for the most part. They need to make a show of tearing their clothes and wailing in order to morally justify their continued morbid curiosity.
The most moral thing to do is ignore characters like Eugenia, anything else just feeds the beast.
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>>2569510Why would the western United States be equivalent to western France?
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>>2569570I think it’s more cowish for nonas to go into the weird fetish thread and make a big deal about people having weird fetishes… it’s like going into the RPF thread and telling them they’re insane for shipping the Beatles (they are insane, but they don’t care and it’s a waste of time)
No. 2569593
>>2569590Ayrt, that entire thread is funny because it's like a honeypot for autists kek. I'm throwing stones from a glass house because I've posted in it before but jfc. To say that it's such a sexual thread nobody in it can be normal about sex.
>My fetish is handcuffs>REEEE SCROTE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, DIEversus
>My fetish is decapitating people's loved ones in front of them and then forcing the survivor to be my sex slave>Ew>Wow fuck you bigot stop being so intolerant No. 2569606
Women who allow men to dog them out on these podcasts are more fucked up in the head to me than the red pill/incel bros. Like why are you even there acting all submissive/half naked and letting some guy tell you how to look better? I know they aren’t getting paid to be on these shows so idk why they keep going.
No. 2569806
>>2569798I see a lot of talk about how male characters are so much more interesting and better written and female ones are boring. It's true there is plenty of misogyny that seeps into how women are portrayed in media, but I just don't agree with that premise as a whole.
And yeah I'm gay kek. But most men are straight and a lot of them barely write or develop their female characters either.