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Share tips, local updates, vent about people coughing on each other, etc

WHO: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports
CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
Some twitter account with a lot of Corona related updates: https://twitter.com/bnodesk
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>>531212
Good OP

No. 531283

>>531212
Okay, dumbass question here. Can finance anons redpill me?

>stonk crash

>unemployment to the roof
>cases not slowing down

Why the fuck is the USD value going up? And is the claims how its gonna be worse than 2008 true?

No. 531288

>>531283
Welcome to hoaders inflating us.

No. 531303

I keep hoping that my store gets shut down from this pandemic, either by break in or someone catches it or the government says so because that means itll be down for a long long time.

No. 531345

US anon here. We're barely into lockdown and dipshit Trump is saying he wants the country opened again by Easter (4/12) so he can get the economy back up. It's not surprising, but goddamn does it make me angry.

No. 531363

What killed the hype?

No. 531366

>>531363
Probably that we all have symptoms now and are scared shitless heh. I havent been posting because im panicking because i have a weird cough now and no insurance and i live with my parents. I just want them to be ok.

No. 531373

>>531345
It’s scary to live in the US right now. The local economy where I live is dying, and it’s really sad to watch. I wish trump would just die already. As if that would solve anything though… what a disaster of a world we live in.

No. 531380

What the fuck is the hantavirus

No. 531385

>>531380
its something you get from rat poop and piss

No. 531392

>>531373
To be honest, thew very few times Pence has gotten to speak during this conferences, his lesser of two evils seems better right now. Kill off Trump and it honestly seems like Pence might actually do a better job at this right now. I dont know about other anons but hes just backing everything Trump is saying but in the background he honestly looks fucking pissed off at everything he keeps saying. And Fauci NEEDS to be in every covid press conference to stop trumo from saying shit.

We literally just had our first deaths from two old people just wanting to believe this malaria drug he keeps toting works and now one is dead and his wife will probably die in ICU because people trust what Trump says over a fucking doctor!

No. 531400

>>531392
Honestly Trump's covid press briefings (if they can even be called that) shouldn't be allowed to air anymore. He's literally causing people to die, not just with federal inaction, but his own stupid ass mouth. Fauci's facepalm said it all.

No. 531401

Just heard an old friend I went to school with uncle died from corona. Went to hospital for suspected chest infection, then died 3 days later. Family weren't allowed to see him and they won't be at his grave tomorrow while he's buried. I really did think it was going to happen to people I didn't know. My hometown.

No. 531413

>>531401
Logically about 70% of people in the US will probably get this. Some might have such mild symptoms that they are already immune [the idea you can be reinfected is still being examined]. Like my mom and I are pretty sure her 8 day fever, coughing fit stuff was corona, my brother was sick for 5 days, 4 days fever, coughing non-stop. I had a two day fit. My little sister seems fine so far and we are all immune compromised.

No. 531417

>>531413
> and we are all immune compromised

I've seen a few anons say this and I'm just wondering what conditions cause whole families to be immune compromised? like every single member.

No. 531418

>>531413
I'm in UK and lock down went into effect yesterday so this is how funerals will be during this. No closure. No goodbyes to your loved ones if they go to hospital. The uncle still had his phone but that wouldn't be the same.

I started distancing about 2 weeks ago from everyone. My mum was mad I wouldn't go back to her house for this but she's over 60 and I can't risk being the one to give her the illness since I've been in contact with more people. We're getting told by our local politicians lock down going to be longer than 3 weeks

No. 531422

>>531417
my bet is poor quality diet out of poverty?

No. 531433

>>531422
NTA - Not always, but possible. Some areas where diets are relatively okay but the quality of living is bad due to pollution can have devastating long-term effects to make a family compromised.

No. 531435

>>531417
2 with 2 immune disorders:
>1 - thyroid, rheumatoid, fluid permanently in lungs, scoliosis
>1 - thyroid, lupus, carries RA gene, has asthma too

3 with asthma
>1 - so bad needs a breathing machine constantly this time of year
> 1 - only has asthma

We have 4 of us, only 2 of us have just asthma, but one has is really really bad. The other two of us, meaning me as one, are high high risk. My mother has it worse. My father doesn't live with us and he has COPD, cellulitis, black lung, breathing machine asthma. Grandparents both over 70, one is 97 and was getting blood transfusions every month for the past 3 years right now, so… Tbh.

My sister will probably be the only one to live if we didnt catch it and we are still succeptable to it.

No. 531449

>>531435
> >1 - thyroid, rheumatoid, fluid permanently in lungs, scoliosis
>1 - thyroid, lupus, carries RA gene

Was wondering as I've lupus too and have seen people watering down the term since this whole thing started, thinking anything below peak fitness is being immunocompromised.

Did they offer corona testing to any of you based on your underlying conditions? I know there's a shortage of tests in some countries but with conditions like that you'd really hope to be tested

No. 531452

>>531449
No and my mother and brother refused to go in for testing, even call the hotline. So I dont know if they have had it and the idea its uncomfortable turned them off. So Im honestly hoping that they had it and it was mild and its gone now.

No. 531499

>>531435
There's no indication thyroid disorders (auto-immune or not) make you more susceptible that I've seen - if anyone else is worried about that in particular since thyroid diseases are very common. I hope your family pulls through, anon.

Norway is now looking into possibly tracking peoples movements through their phones in a new app they're developing which.. I can get in these times but still. Creepy. The times we fucking live in.

No. 531503

>>531499
Anon.

My levels are not stable. I am at risk. Shut the fuck up unless you're studying this as a doctor because mine told me to stay home due to that and my lupus.

No. 531504

>>531503
jesus nta but you need to chill…they literally said they hope you and your family pull through ok

No. 531505

>>531504
Telling other anons in here there is no connection doesn't help anyone, anon. Talk to your doctors, not an anon saying whether you should and should not be at risk and we literally keep changing symptoms and who can get it each day.

No. 531506

I think its unlikely someone in this thread would know since it's uncommon but does anyone know if narcolepsy means you're immunocompromised? I can't find anything online but I was slightly worried just because narcolepsy is thought to be an autoimmune disorder?

No. 531508

>>531505
Im feeling calmer at last about the situation. Im only going out once a week for groceries and people actually seemed to be respecting the two metre space thing at the supermarket. Food stocks are good. The limit of items is working.

It's shite not going out and not knowing when i see my sig other next, but I'm starting to believe this isn't going to rule the world as long as I'd thought.

My friend's got the virus and feels hideous, but she isn't worsening. Apart from burning lungs and fatigue her thirst is driving her insane. Mutual friends in london have had it milder and theyre recovering. I'm not hearing of any other mutuals catching it and it feels like the peaks happening and then it'll start to ease off.

Feel guilty for feeling optimistic.

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Anyone know where the gov are getting our phone numbers from?

No. 531510

>>531509
Census, medical records, place of employment, any sort of program where you've used an ID, your social media, etc.

No. 531511

>>531508
I’m glad you posted this it made me feel slightly more optimistic

No. 531512

>>531511

Im too scared to be optimistic..

No. 531513

>>531512
same the only way im optimistic is to literally not think about any of this at all

No. 531517

>>531512
>>531513
I think I just got burnt out on panic and fear so now feel more at peace with the fact that there’s nothing I can do and am just trying to think positively as much as possible, being so stressed out will only lower your immunity but it’s easier said then done

No. 531518

I hope the economy tanks some more so I can buy stocks but that bailout $$$ is coming soon so probably not. Looks like all I'm getting is that measly $600 from the stimulus bill that's taking fucking forever! As if that will even cover a month of fucking rent lol.

No. 531519

>>531509
>>531510
They probably just tell the cell company to send out a generic text to everyone on the network.

No. 531521

Switching off the news helps. I listen to the daily update, but to be totally immersed in stories about deaths and not recoveries, worse case scenarios… it's masochism to listen to it.

When this is over I'll read all the books or whatever, but right now removing myself from the 24/7 coverage is how it has to be.

Every day that ends we're closer to getting back to life. Stick to guidelines and it speeds it up.

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>>531519
That sounds the best explanation. Ty.

No. 531524

>>531509
am i the only one peeved by that stupid "stay at home. protect nhs. save lives." tagline? google's 1st page has it too.
overall no offence to the panicking anons and poeple overall but idgi the panic. neither have i had to make much changes to my routine as am a social recluse and an essential worker anyway. some of my plans fell thru for the summer and am feeling isolated but that's kinda the default feel anyway. am kinda happy about all the online sales also kek. just wish people would stop fucking stockpiling already, so annoying going to the shops at the crack of the dawn just to get some food like.

No. 531552

I'm glad the worst part already is over here in Japan :3(:3)

No. 531556

>>530873
tbf most industries operate like this.
>>531283
If you want more info on the financial aspect I suggest reading ZeroHedge.
>>531288
Inflation's been happening for decades though. The death of the dollar's been happening gradually over a long period of time.

No. 531557

>>531499
>Norway is now looking into possibly tracking peoples movements through their phones in a new app they're developing which.. I can get in these times but still. Creepy.
I've heard this method is being worked on in other countries too, like the US. If it were guaranteed to stay optional that would be one thing but it's not likely that would be the case. Sounds too much like police state horseshit and they can go fuck themselves with that. I say good luck enforcing it and acting more like China's government, because we definitely could use more of that idiocy on this planet.

No. 531561

>>531552
Good to hear. Someone in the last thread was saying how they were already seeing improvements where they are over there. Not surprised since they only have the cleanest cities known to man. People get worked up about vaccines when the reality is we have the major improvements in hygiene and sanitation to thank for the elimination of the most common communicable diseases. Not that vaccines are entirely useless, just that there is too much irrational hype around them.

No. 531564

>>531366
A lot of people are going to be panicking because it's allergy season in many countries and they'll be having allergy symptoms, fearing the worst. Fear is the mind killer.

No. 531567

>>531564
this so much
they've basically confirmed that almost anything you have with covid is something you can experience with a flu, cold, sinus or respiratory infection etc
the only time to really start panicking is if you start losing your breath
stay calm if you have any other symptoms because nothing can be done in most of those cases right now anyway

panic can make you literally feel like you are dying, i would know

No. 531587

>>531503
I could definitely see how your lupus diagnosis is bad in this situation.

>>531505
I was told not to worry by my own doctor and have seen several other people with thyroid disorders who were told the same. I was literally just trying to help anyone who might be anxious. Everyone should of course go ask their doctor to be safe because only they can look at your overall personal health factors.

No. 531589

>>531400

Not a bad idea at all. Trump stans would erroneously call it censorship, but they don't trust the news media to begin with. Running prerecorded briefings interspersed with fact-checking would be cool too.

>>531283
The value of USD (like Yen and Swiss francs) often rises in times of global crisis. USD is a relatively safe form of wealth to hold. When investors want to risk as little as possible, there's a higher demand for USD, which appreciates the dollar. Stonks crash because MNCs want those safe, safe greenbacks.

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>>531506

Disclaimer so I don't feel guilty: This is not intended to replace the medical advice of a treating professional. Ask your doctor– I know I did!

For brevity's sake, I won't go into nuances: narcolepsy is not an autoimmune disease.

For those who do have autoimmune diseases, or are just curious:

Autoimmune diseases are characterized by hyperactive immune systems. For example, as a rheumatoid arthritis anon, my blood attacks my joints. (Mo' nuance mo' problems.) RA in and of itself can increase one's risk of infection, but… as far as doctors know now, not by much. Treating RA with necessary immunosuppressive/immunomodulatory drugs increases one's risk of infection significantly. Those who use such drugs are certainly considered to be immunocompromised. Those who don't, aren't (unless we're immunocompromised for another reason.)

The CDC Yellow Book splits conditions, medications, etc. associated with the immune system into lists according to severity. It's not exhaustive, or written for this purpose, but it could be of interest if you're worried you may be immunocompromised: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2020/travelers-with-additional-considerations/immunocompromised-travelers

No. 531610

>>531607
Thankyou! This was really interesting and put me at ease, I haven't been able to get in touch with my Dr

No. 531615

Do is the general consensus that if you feel as if you have a huge loogee in your throat and constantly feel the need to clear your throat or cough, and nothing is budging, that you probably have COVID for sure?

No. 531616

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10:23 p.m. White House and Senate reach deal on $2 trillion emergency stimulus package: The Trump Administration and Senate reached a deal on a massive stimulus package meant to pour money into an economy battered by the coronavirus, The Washington Post reported. According to the Post, the legislation would provide $1,200 checks to many Americans, set aside $500 billion for cities, states and industries, and devote $367 billion for loans to small businesses. Congress will speed the bill through both houses without formal hearings, the report says.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Coronavirus-live-updates-news-bay-area-15151165.php

Presumably the Post article mentioned above:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/03/24/trump-coronavirus-congress-economic-stimulus/

>>531610

Hey, you're welcome! I, too, have a neurological sleep disorder (DSPD,) so we're basically sistren.

No. 531618

Looking at America in disbelief - A country that has spent almost 2 trillion dollars on a senseless war, suddenly finds that it´s hospitals are so poorly equipped that doctors need to wear swimming goggles and plastic bags to protect themselves from infection. WTF?

No. 531625

Thoughts

No. 531628

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On Sunday a doctor on tv said that the equipment in her hospital will only last for a week. Then they say that french and italian patients are brought to get treated in Germany. Okay, helping is important but nevertheless… Now this. Wtf is wrong with them? How can you "lose" that?

No. 531633

>>531628


That´s Germany for you. And I must say that while i find it perfectly ok and fair that we are helping people within the EU, I sure as fuck hope that America is shelling out some big bucks for those tests.

And as far as the masks go, it is fairly obvious what happened: They never were delivered. Looks like someone else knew about this deal and decided to pay more than Germany had agreed to.

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Prince Charles has tested positive

No. 531645

>>531643


And everyone said that marrying Camilla would mean that there would never be a coronation for Prince Charles. Now look at that!

No. 531661

>>531625

It was pretty obvious so maybe most youtubers just don't want to talk it into existence. I notice he doesn't even touch on the same arguments for Patreon, because hoo boy are those freeloading motherfuckers in the shit now.

No. 531662

>>531643
Isn't he in the age category where he wouldn't deal with it so well? It says he's in good health?

No. 531666

>>531662

Yes, people his age are the ones who are, besides those with chronic illnesses, the most at risk of complications and death. But it´s not like being older automatically means that you have to experience severe complications. Some old people can and do survive the infection quite remarkably.

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>>531643
It’s happening

No. 531672

>>531666
He does have that superior retilian dna

No. 531673

>>531672

He should be fine then.

No. 531674

All the "my free speech" redditors are coming out of the wood works
>It's unconstitutional to set meet up limits
>Spreading the virus intentionally by licking, coughing, or general fear mongering isn't terrorism!
>1984! Slipper slope

No. 531675

>>531672
>retilian

No. 531679

How do my fellow burgers feel about the stimulus deal that just passed the senate?
>individuals earning gross income of $75k (if married up to $150k) or less to receive $1200 and $500 per child
>no word on timeline of money, may be multiple installments over weeks that won't begin until May
>no money for individuals who gross over $99k or married couples earning $198k w/o children
>people who earn nothing or don't file a tax return may not receive any money

I don't think it's very helpful, personally. And if they expect people to go out and spend that money instead of using it to pay their rents and bills, they're sorely mistaken about what will happen if lockdown remains necessarily throughout April.

No. 531682

>>531679
I think as you said that moneys going straight to rent. We also need to know how they plan to give the money is it in increments of 25/100/all at once between 1 week/2/1 month? That could change how people spend it.
Also I feel the law should have been fleshed out a bit more by individual states, even if it took longer, because in tech hot spots like LA 1,250 will not get you far while in poorer areas 75K is middle class. I do wonder how this will hit LA and other places with crazy high rent. Did they get rid of "based off of 2018 tax returns" thing though?

No. 531687

>>531682
Articles are saying income will be based on the 2019 tax return if it's already been filed, and 2018 return if not.

No. 531689

>>531687
So people on disability get nothing?

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I keep seeing people posting disgusting shit like this. This guy in particular keeps showing up in Twitter posts I see about COVID-19. Too bad these types don't follow their own rationality and off themselves.

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this young girl killed herself due to self-isolation overwhelming her.

imagine dying and and your family 'honour' you by telling a tabloid your worst secret. this is mad disrespectful imo

you deserved better, Emily

my worst fear is dying and my mum telling everyone my business to a fucking tabloid:
>anon had severe cystic acne in high school
>anon had a gay bf in sixth form
>anon was obese in her freshman year of college

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/25/teenager-19-kills-fears-will-stuck-inside-coronavirus-12453434/

No. 531695

>>531694
i don't know, this sounds like some anti-lockdown propaganda disguised as a sentimental, mental health awareness piece. honestly, how does this even make sense? i don't understand how a high functioning autist would kill herself because she… wouldn't have to be social? after half the article is about how she struggled to conform socially? how does that make sense?

No. 531696

>>531695

Personally, im going nuts from isolation and having nothing do, even being an introvert.
Confination is REALLY horrible for anyone's mental health, and neuroatypical people handle it even worse, thats why solitary confiment is reserved only for the worst criminal offenders, it will erode your brain in the worst ways.

It won't surprise me if depressed, autistic or schizo people start offing themselves.

No. 531697

>>531690
I hate it when people talk like this. There's a sociopathic level of disconnect. Like it's fine to them if a few million others die so long as they got theirs, because other people are expendable but not themselves. If overpopulation is such an issue, then why don't they be the first to volunteer to neck themselves? Oh right, because they're special and consider themselves superior than most everyone else. It's the deemed inferiors who need to die.
It's one thing to not have children if they think it's bad for the environment, but suggesting other people have to die is bullshit. No wants wants to die for the greater good who wouldn't do the same themselves.

>>531689
There's no specific mention.

No. 531698

Honestly, I've been fine with solitary confinement. I'm kind of a shut in anyway so nothing really changed. I just play vidya all day, exercise, and knit. Not having to meet up with people is a big bonus.

No. 531699

>>531698

Good for you NEET-chan but some people need socialization

No. 531700

>>531697
Do you think everyone is equal?
If it kills the old, the genetically unhealthy and the odd young person, isn't that just a more efficient form of eugenics?

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>>531694
I'm more biased to believe she had some other mental illness that warped her perception of healthy attention or how to cope with not receiving positive attention. Their narrative doesn't add up. She doesn't exactly fit the mold of loner autist struggling to fit in to social norms, it looks like she was acutely aware of them. Not gatekeeping autism btw, it just seems more characteristic of a paranoid or histrionic personality. Not that it matters.
Most autistic and aspie friends I know are doing fine.

No. 531704

>>531696
but she struggled socially? that's what specifically seems strange to me. shouldn't an autist who struggles to be social be fairly okay with being under lockdown? besides, it's not like you can't call your friends on facetime or whatever? not just speaking about her case, but the dramatics are a bit much. the surrounding circumstances are a lot more worrying than not being able to go out with your friends specifically to get brunch imo. and lockdown isn't "solitary confinement". jesus.

No. 531705

>>531695
Autistic people are know for loving ritual and are irritated when it's broken. Corons broke her ritual so she'd be on the edge for a while. This is speculation, but from the way her mom is acting she was most likely kind of a grating or abusive person to be around. Being stuck with a shitty mom, isolated, and your routine broken all at once can push you over the edge

No. 531706

>>531702
yeah same. it doesn't make sense.

No. 531707

>>531690
>6.5 mill less people means allot more jobs open
What is this fool saying, the people who are dying aren't even part of the work force. Generally speaking.

>>531694
This whole story is weird, why would a girl with autism who has trouble fitting in feel suicidal when she gets a break from being around people? Doesn't make sense. She sounds like a normal social person who couldn't handle isolation.

No. 531708

>>531695
>i don't know, this sounds like some anti-lockdown propaganda disguised as a sentimental, mental health awareness piece.
My exact thoughts. I'm so tired of all these physically/mentally "disabled" twitterfags and tumblrinas whining. Before corona they were constantly complaining that healthy/normal people live life on easy mode and don't cater to them and now when everybody has to make sacrifices for people who are really ill/old they can't cope with the fact that they're no longer the biggest victims.
Quarantines just started, it's not like people have been shut in for months. Have this people never been so sick that they had to stay at home for a week? It really is no big deal so far. It's said if that suicide really happened, but you really can't blame it on that.
The same people advocating for a stop of quarantine because mental health are probably the same ones who say old people dying is just natural selection…
Being home alone is still vastly better than being a nurse whovs literally risking her life right now.

No. 531709

>>531708

Speak for yourself, im on week 2, almost 3 and its taken a toll on me having to stay home alone, im a very socially active person and ive exausthed everything i could do alone in my house, im starting to get hyper anxious and having self harm urges.

No. 531710

>>531704
Even if someone struggles socially, it’s still hard being confined to one space. Maybe some autistic people are having a hard time adjusting to the quarantine because it disrupts their normal routine? I think most people are being affected this way, but I’d imagine autistic people even more so.

No. 531711

>>531709
You are describing my everyday life. The main thing that stops me from becoming an hero is socializing online. You'll get used to it after more time passes.

No. 531712

>>531708
i think it's less propaganda for those reasons, and more that outlets want to push every possible angle to demonize a very necessary lockdown, to get the workforce back out there so their stock portfolios and their businesses don't suffer.

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>>531710
i mean, no offense but her ig is like half her ass and her facebook is mostly complaining about how euro 2020 and how events and the summer is 'cancelled'. i don't get the feeling this had anything to actually do with autism or just needing a basic threshold of socialization to feel okay.

No. 531715

>>531709
Bitch, what do you want me to do? This is neither my nor anybody else's fault. We're all in on this together.

I'm not a neet, but nevertheless won't be feeling sorry for all those people who can't cope now, it's not like you ever cared about more introverted people having to force themselves to be social 24/7 all their lifes either (because let's face it, you will never have success socially and in terms of work when you don't try to act as outgoing as possible). Now you are the ones who need to learn to adapt to situations that make you deeply uncomfortable.

No. 531718

saged for blog. I hate how wishy washy people are being about what is essential work here in the uk. my job is cleaning and though the building is closed the staff are still going in and they want me to clean, just less hours. what the staff is doing is not essential AT ALL and as for me, vacuuming, dusting and cleaning the toilets is not important enough for me to want to go. I know they don't want the cleaning work to pile up but shit, I'd rather have a bunch of things to clean up later on than keep going now. honestly no idea why the staff are going in at all??? I don't know if any of them have corona, I don't want to pick it up for the sake of my min wage job.

No. 531722

>>531718
Hopefully the government will provide strict and clear guidance on essential work in the next couple days in the UK, it does seem like that's where they are going.

Honestly anon you should value your life more than minimum wage non-essential job, which is easier said than done in some circumstances I understand.

But I would just say to your employer that you have symptoms and you need to self isolate and hopefully by the time your isolation period is over the government will have deemed your work officially non-essential anyways.

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>>531628
Been hearing similar news lately.

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I wonder what will happen to people with drug addictions or substance abuse problems. Suddenly going cold turkey could leave them irritated, sick, and they might even die, iirc a lot of drug programs recommend slowly lowering does instead of cold turkey for heavy users. I feel even worse for kids. Imagine being stuck with your irritated alcohol detoxed dad

No. 531726

>>531713
wowza she was really pretty, no disrespect

No. 531728

>>531725
That’s why in the US most states are keeping liquor stores open as essential businesses - they don’t want to deal with alcoholics stroking out at the hospitals right now

No. 531729

>>531699
nowhere did that anon say people didn't need it or talk for anyone else but herself. quarantine really making you all retarded right now huh

No. 531730

>>531725
Not really the same thing but I've been trying to quit my daily weed habit and while not having withdrawals it's been hard because it's a habit and my life is very stressful right now on top of everything else. Anyone else trying to kick a smoking habit? I don't want pneumonia but I'm having a very hard time quitting completely especially while quarantined with an abusive asshole.

No. 531731

>>531730
I hate to be a bad influence, but nope. Weed is one thing that keeps me sane under usual circumstances. While I'm not "addicted" to it, I would just feel pretty bummed if I ran out and couldn't get more from my dealer.
Right now I work from home and have enough groceries for weeks, I'm not concerned because I don't have to leave. It's more about staving off boredom and sleeping well.

No. 531733

>>531730
There's a weed drought where I live. I got sold a shit deal last week struggling to find it and the girl said there's going to be a drought. Haven't been able to find anyone with weed in days. Also UK in lock down so wondering if dealers just don't want to deal with the added surveillance. It fucking sucks, I'm upping my tobacco intake to deal but my apetite is gone and I'm so depressed lol

No. 531743

I've been smoking less and less and eventually I'm just going to take a t break for a few months. Weed makes you dumb dumb lol

No. 531744

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No. 531748

>>531212
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0325/1126291-coughing-investigation/

> Gardaí have called on people to report any instances where they have been threatened or intimidated by people deliberately coughing and spitting at them. People deliberately coughing at other people in public may be prosecuted for a criminal offence


A man literally did this to me days ago but I can't imagine walking into my local police station and them being able to do shit about it

No. 531751

>>531748
In the USA they're starting to arrest people on terrorism charges for this.

No. 531756

I haven't had a drink since this all started. I don't drive so I have to be smart when I'm shopping and figuring out how much I can carry home.

For a while there I was drinking in response to stress and boredom and here I am in a boring/stressful situation and not drinking..feel good about that at least.

No. 531758

>>531751
good

>>531748
what do you mean? if there are witnesses or recording, i could easily see it falling under battery charges like spitting is, as saliva and respiratory droplets are dispersed when coughing. if your spit is maliciously and intentionally spread to a person = battery

No. 531762

>>531758
I mean I live in an already quiet town and with all this happening it's even quieter out, there were no witnesses.

I imagine the fucker wouldn't be so brave if there were

No. 531765

We've been in lockdown for 10 days and the death toll keeps rising. There's no end to this, I'm honestly losing all hope.

No. 531768

>>531509
The UK government doesn't have an emergency broadcast system since they didn't pay for it, they asked the carriers to send out the texts on their behalf. Vodafone sms was down because of it for a while yesterday

No. 531770

>>531694
yeah like the others said, i dont know that i believe isolation had anything to do with it

in these times its most common for people to kill themselves due to financial loss, or fear of the diseases/guilt at the thought of spreading it to other people or having other people worrying about them etc

id never say never but idk

No. 531773

>>531765
Of course it keeps rising, ffs the incubation period is at least 7 days. And you can still carry it without symptoms for another 28 days. The people testing positive or dying now are the people who got infected weeks ago.

No. 531777

Someone explain to this retard NEET why people are complaining about not gettin paid at work but continuing to go to work ??

>>531689
Guess not. getting fucked as always…

No. 531778

>>531777
Americans, especially conservative ones, place your entire self worth on your employment status, especially if you're young

No. 531779

i literally have no other symptoms other than the cough and pressure in my chest but holy shit its uncomfortable af
im not sleeping more than 4 hours at a time, and my panic attacks arent helping
also im really so sleepy because im not getting enough sleep which is probably making it worse

i also have a lack of appetite i have to watch things about food to get hungry and even then if i eat anything i feel like shit after
im just trying to keep myself hydrated, eat citrus and take vitamins

No. 531781

>>531778
Or because they could be terminated for absenteeism/non compliance which would disqualify them from collecting unemployment, same for voluntarily quitting. There's no meaningful job market right now aside from being a grocery deliverer. and those people are gonna drop from corona and don't even get hazard pay. Tons of people are unemployed right now and our government isn't promising much of shit to help people. At least if they continue to work, there is hope for payment in the future and that they'll still have a paying job after corona.
No one is there to help these people. They don't have families and a government that tells them they're gonna get free money coasting by on being NEETs.

No. 531782

>>531694
I have high functioning autism and the sudden change in routine is something I can imagine a lot of autistic people are really struggling with right now.

The elderly-hours being implemented in stores mean I can't shop during the quietest hours anymore and it sounds snowflakey as fuck but I'm overwhelmed by the smallest shit like that. Autistic people crave routine and predictability. I can see how this snowballed in her mind.

No. 531783

>>531777
Who is going to work and not being paid for it?

No. 531784

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>>531781
>Tons of people are unemployed right now and our government isn't promising much of shit to help people. At least if they continue to work, there is hope for payment in the future and that they'll still have a paying job after corona.
This is why I haven’t left my job yet.

No. 531785

I've had a noticable lack of appetite for about a week now and only now have I seen this listed as a symptom in half of all cases. Is that alone enough to worry?

No. 531786

>>531781
I wouldn’t exactly call being poor because you’re disabled and denied work coasting by but ok.

But if everyone quit working at the place that isn’t paying, wouldn’t they be forced into paying or the government forced to do something? Idk it just seems kind of like a retarded problem that could be easily fixed by revolt, and since so many are struggling it seems like a good time

No. 531787

>>531785
I wouldnt unless you start to run a fever or having breathing issues tbh. I wouldnt worry about ANY symptoms unless you have a preexisting condition except for shortness of breath. People can have a lack of appetite when they are stressed the same way people can overeat when they are stressed. It could be psychological. Just make sure you're getting enough water in you and if at any point you DO feel hungry, act on it immediately so you can get some nutrients. Even if it means you have to eat a guilty pleasure junky food, its better than nothing!

No. 531789

>>531782
Literally SAME anon, I’m about to go to the store and be like I have autism let me buy fucking wine and leave please. I cannot deal with people being so fucking close to me in the store. I also only go to the store at 7 am and now I can’t! I could totally see how this girl freaked the fuck out because uh yeah. Same.
>>531694
Also a lot of people don’t realize with ASD you can love going out, you can definitely be an extrovert and not seeing your friends could be a break in your routine. Maybe she went to the gym every morning and couldn’t any more for example. Just because she posted booty pics doesn’t mean she didn’t get overwhelmed by loud noises or something. Maybe she just spiraled from over thinking. either way that is very sad that she took her own life. Super embarrassing her parents blasted her on the news though, I HATE when my family tells people I’m autistic or try to justify what I do with ASD.

No. 531796

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/25/coronavirus-uk-will-amazon-still-deliver-lockdown-12455461/

> However, they have said on their website that they are currently prioritising deliveries of the items most needed by customers – specifically food, health and personal care products


Ordered a healthcare item from amazon and never checked the delivery date, it's 6 weeks from now. Are priority deliveries taking 6 weeks or is my item not priority despite being a health item? Any uk anons ordered in the last couple days and know?

No. 531799

>>531796
hard to say but I wouldn't be surprised if food takes priority over healthcare items on amazon, maybe try ordering from boots?

No. 531804

still have corona anons, I feel lots better but have absolutely zero sense of smell. Everything tastes like cardboard

No. 531810

>>531690
ngl I used to make edgy "we need a new plague" jokes but this is some proper sociopathy.

No. 531811

>>531804
Were you the one who’s mom had it too? How is she doing? My mom has COPD and is still going to work and I’m so worried about her. Glad to hear you’re feeling better though.

No. 531822

>>531690
Lower population means less people paying taxes and less demand for services, it evens itself out so there's no abandance of money and jobs even after a fucking plague.

No. 531823

>>531725

It depends on what they are withdrawing from and how high their wire is, really. If it´s something like coaine or meth the withdrawels are psychological and the most common symptoms are going to be depression and fatigue. If it´s something like alcohol, benzos or opiates, the withdrawels will be psychological as well as physical, and with alcohol and benzos they can be quite dangerous, even fatal if people start to have cramps and seizures. Opioid withdrawel is almost never fatal in healthy people, but it can surely feel like it is. As a long-term user of opioids myself, I am incredibly happy to be on methadone and no longer using any street drugs. The idea that one could be stuck in lockdown with no way to get more dope is absolutely terrifying. My heart goes out to all the people who have to go through this. Then again, having to cold turkey at home would still be a million times preferable to having to do it in jail, which many people are also forced to do on a regular basis. At least at home you can stick to your own schedule, have your own bathroom, and you aren´t surrounded by strange assholes. But it would still be hell nonetheless.

No. 531825

How can people not be disturbed by the fact that unless international governments intervened, this COVID could have been the modern Black Death or the Spanish Flu?
I don't think it's sunk in yet. How bad would COVID had been 100 years ago, before we had technologies like test kits, ppe requirements, and uninhibited travel where ever? So many people would be infected, dying, or dead by now. We have all the tools and information and yet it's still as bad as it is.

No. 531826

>>531618
Hey, it's the American way. You should see what it's like in the military contractor sector.

I'm hoping this will all change after this. There was no excuses for our healthcare to be this way.

No. 531827

>>531811
nta, I live alone so I’m just relaxing and playing animal crossing

No. 531829

>>531786
Americans are too pussy to do anything in mass and that's why they never get shit done. None of them bother protesting against the ridiculous housing prices but just happily shake their head and hand in their 1500 dollars for their studio apartment with a broken toilet. Nobody chooses to quit their shitty jobs where they're paid 100 a week while being expect to have an apartment and everything in between, nobody bothers protesting against their trillion dollars student debt, their thousands of dollars worth of medical bills over a common cold, nothing, they just nod, smile, and go in debt and don't even bat an eye, and that's why change never happens
>>531781
And getting a job in America, even a low paying no skill type job, is a pain in the ass

No. 531835

>>531825
What are you talking about. It wouldn't have been bad in the first place if it wasn't for uninhibited travel wherever.

No. 531836

>>531825
In a way travel by planes is what fucked us over in the first place

No. 531837

Do you think this will cause a surge in nationalism? There already seemed to be a growing sentiment for it before virus

No. 531839

>>531837
i hope so. i hope globalism takes a big hit from this.

No. 531840

>>531835
>>531836
This. Millions of people from China escaped quarantines within those first crucial two weeks and flew in mass to other countries and nobody even CONSIDERED locking down borders to keep them out. That was all it took and anybody who says otherwise is a colossal dumbass.

No. 531841

>>531837
I can see some people wanting to be more nationalist and protect their borders, but if anything this shows we need more globalised infrastructure.

No. 531842

Anons what do you think the odds are of getting coronavirus after visiting a large group of family members (5 people total not including the person visiting). My bf had to stay at his family's house overnight and I'm wondering if I'm going to get sick now. No one has symptoms but they don't take anything seriously and go to work, have a child who was pulled out of school 2 weeks ago, and they don't clean any surfaces or disinfect doorknobs. They think coronavirus is a joke. No one in my county has tested positive for the virus yet. I know I'm being dumb but I'm freaking out because he just came home and I'm scared he's infected and is going to make me sick.

No. 531843

>>531730
Anon you're not alone. 4 days sober from my daily weed habit. It just didn't feel right to keep abusing my lungs during this time. I hope to transition to casual smoking when this is all over.

No. 531844

>>531837

I most certainly hope not, nationalism is one of the worst things that can happen to society, it creeps me out thinking it could ressurge with full force.
>>531839
Just ew.

No. 531845

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EueTw6utIVM
You can watch them vote on the bill now.

No. 531846

>>531841
I agree, but I feel like the long term impact of this may be a significant uptick of a lot of xenophobia and nationalism. I feel like if there really is a depression people will want someone to blame

No. 531847

>>531829
I don’t even know where to start with this one. There are many protests and riots that go on in America, over a mass variety of issues. The man problem in America is that it is a HUGE country with many types of people with many types of jobs and varying cultures. Republicans are a large amount of our population, are very good at voicing and teaching their children that it matters to vote so in turn they win a lot of elections here, and they want to keep their money. Simple as that, we value capitalism here. If you make a fuck ton of money, you think that you should be able to keep it all, right?? Well THATS the real problem we have here. There’s a big divide between the rich and the poor. American people are very spirited, very willing to fight and protest. Black lives matter, woman’s march, and May Day are all recent examples.

No. 531848

>>531847
I don't know what your point is. Globalisation means redistributing wealth

No. 531849

>>531847
>May Day a recent example
lol

No. 531850

>>531842
Not trying to fear monger anon, but the reality is, most people are gonna get this I think. Im pretty sure I have it and Im pretty much a recluse who is EXTREMELY germaphobic. I never touch surfaces other people touch barehanded unless I can wash my hands immediately after. I worked in retail and we were two days into the week, days after other states had started shutting down and telling people to quarantine. I live with my parents, and we babysit my 3 year old niece almost every day(up until this week). My dad works at the airport, and my mom is a stay at home mom but she went to the store many times within the last month, mostly panic buying. No mask or anything. My sister works at a bank and my brother in law are in real estate and are both still working. So me being careful for myself, did absolutely nothing unfortunately. Im just having to ride it out and hope and pray my parents dont get sick. Im the anon whos only symptom so far has been a crushing weight in my chest and feeling like i have a thick mucus or phleme like substance stuck in my throat/upper chest. My suggestion to you is just to stay clean, drink water and orange juice. Eat citrus. Go outside and get sunshine. Maybe buy some vitamin supplements (B, C, and D are what you need most for your immune system) and zinc.

No. 531852

>>531849
Seattle May Day, every may 1st there is huge riots in the city. It’s an annual riot, you don’t know what you’re referencing.

No. 531853

>>531852
> It’s an annual riot
nta but lol no

No. 531855

>>531844
why do you think so

No. 531856

>>531853
Google it.

No. 531857

>>531694

Her parents are desperate to blame autism and bullying for her self-isolation mental breakdown that led to suicide. They just don't want to acknowledge she did this and want to try to make people think this was a suicide was autism. God, please off these awful people.

No. 531858

>>531856
bruh i know what the fuck it is and its barely anything more than a glorified street part for troons and immigrants

No. 531859

>>531856
> what is International Workers' Day
it's been a thing since the fucken 1800s

No. 531864

>>531859
>>531858
Yeah that’s what it is for a lot of the country but people in WA use it as an excuse to riot. It gets very dangerous and crazy and people use it to just go out and fuck shit up. Its different than other may days etc. they are infamously violent. This was definitely not the point of what I was originally saying though.

No. 531867

>>531864
Is this an American thing os maybe just a WA thing? I'm in CA and never heard of May Day. We have Labor Day here..

No. 531868

>>531855
It breeds a huge Us Versus Them mentality that opens doors to extremist views and actions, if someone doesn't fit the group they will get ostracized, any minority is basically fucked under nationalist regimes, Its not even wow second holocaust, but even small things like being denied service on restaurants or getting socially excluded in school or work are already problems.

First its problem from other countries that are the problem, then people who don't look the ethnnic majority, then people who don't have traditional relationships aka The Gays, then religious group We do not approve of.

Nationalism historically has always snowballed into extremism, just as communism snowballs to totalitarianism.

The basis of nationalism is We Stick Together as a Group. But who is We? Who do you consider part of your group?

No. 531869

>>531848
I was replying to the fact anon says Americans are complacent.

No. 531870

>>531867
To add is it maybe one of those holidays thats in small print on calanders?

No. 531871

>>531864
What were you trying to say, you tagged my post initially about globalisation. I don't understand how degenerates negates that. I'm from NI so I know what yearly riots are like lol

No. 531873

Americans generally are complacent and dont care about anything unless a celebrity or some social media twitter blue check mark tells them to. Thats the reality. We built this monster because we stopped rioting for relevant things, we stopped fighting for actual rights, we stopped boycotting for reasons other than people getting their feelings hurt. People in the last three centuries busted their asses and risked their lives to form unions and to actually protest human rights infractions, and capitalism as a whole. Eventually the government figured out ways to ADVERTISE capitalism and use celebrities and entertainment and sex to make it pretty. And we ate it up and now we are where we are and no "movement" matters anymore when you keep consuming and going to work for the companies that are fucking you over.

No. 531875

The BBC news website is currently in a 'try to de-panic the herd' spin with claims the NHS will now cope and 0.5% death rate is probably your real chances of bodybag time.

In contrast, the regular web newspapers are clickbaiting how we're all going to claw our faces off and be buried in pits, so it evens out.

No. 531876

>American people are very spirited, very willing to fight and protest. Black lives matter, woman’s march, and May Day are all recent examples.

Black lives matter was a while ago and none of these accomplished anything, every single American is crying about rent prices, tax, low wages, low hours, student debt, companies refusing full time, healthcare, etc. Things that matter and affect everyone except for insanely rich people who don't care about throwing millions down the drain. The most they'll do is cry on the internet, never accomplish anything. The ones who aren't afraid to protest are always protesting over dumb shit like not being able to say fuck on the radio, not getting 15/hr at McDonald's, and so on. The only times they did something right is protesting against police brutality and racism within prison sentencing but that quickly got shut down but Malcom x type folk who just want to beat up white people

No. 531877

>>531876
Exactly.

No. 531878

What do you think most people think about this?
The '100% chance of death you're gonna die tomorrow and every surface in the world is infected and your lungs are permanently scarred forever and we gotta panic', or the '0.000001% risk for healthy people and you're gonna be fine don't worry lol'?

No. 531883

>>531878
I think most people lean more toward the panicky side. And they probably will continue to until it calms down a bit.

No. 531884

>>531868
it's a government's duty to put its people above persecuted chinese covid19-infected refugees and causing an outbreak in the country.
it's not that deep to figure out who "its people" are.

No. 531885

Elderly women in my area are still going out every day to buy newspapers but they do this thing where they wear a scarf and lift it to their face as they pass you.. all while looking at you like you're filth lol. If you're that worried maybe skip buying the daily newspaper? That scarf ain't doing shit

No. 531887

>>531876
>>531873
I feel like people with these mindsets are scorned by mainstream media and normie people that get represented more often. Like I stated before there are countless different cultures and societies in the US right now, that I believe causes it to be difficult for things to get done (I’m hoping I’m wording this how I view it.) from teenage republicans, to S.H.A.R.P.S, to the newly renewed KKK, to sex workers, to Democrats, to liberals, and all the groups of people in between like the poor Hispanic immigrants, there’s just TOO many people and too many varying ideals to fit anything together that will work for everyone.

No. 531889

>>531887
>>531873

Again this really seems retarded. Going to work unpaid for the hope that what? They will pay you back pay? And if you don’t you’re clearly not going to do anything about it then, either. Is it just the hope that they will resume paying at all later and you’ll just return to the same happy bs as before? You’re really gonna lick boots like that?

Do you really think that all the laid off people are going to stay unemployed forever and that the government can just ignore it? When everyone stops paying their rent what are they gonna do? Have thousands and thousands of people on the streets? Like srs what are people afraid of

No. 531893

>>531889
I never said to go to work if you aren’t being paid, all I ever said through this thread of conversation was, 1. Americans aren’t complacent, we protest here etc.
2. There are too many ideas for us to adequately get anything done. I accidentally took the conversation off track when talking about the complacencies of Americans without thinking about the original topic of “going to work if you’re not getting paid”.
Let’s be real though, again TOO many different people and mindsets to get us going in all one straight arrow direction of fighting for one thing. You want to riot for workers rights, then Timmy over there is gonna be like “uh well I think woman shouldn’t work at all!! I’m gunna riot for THAT!” That is what I view as the real clogging of the system. Everyone has an idea, some are similar, but all of us will always want different things and outcomes no matter what.

No. 531894

>>531889
anon, they're incredibly stupid. these are the same people that fight to keep their employer 'healthcare' and remain tied to their employer, who, in actuality, is itching to fire them at the first sign. they're hopeless. americans love getting reamed up the ass raw and will fight to the death to get fucked up the ass for no reason, forever

No. 531895

>>531893
they are complacent tho. more than complacency is the fact that many of them don't even see the problem when it's staring them in the face. they're more focused on any red herring the wealthy throw out there, no matter how stupid

No. 531896

>>531884
If there's a globalised government tho, it means we're all in this together and resources can be adapted and sent quicker to where its needed. Rather than dealing with trade sanctions and worrying that the made up economy will fluctuate. You're a cunt as well, you understand people were carrying covid-19 before it was even known so how's closing borders going to stop a pandemic unless they're constantly fucking shut

No. 531898

The fact that doctors are being refused testing and being told just to self isolate while they could be saving lives but members of the royal family who have been no help in anyway during this crisis can just get tested is depressing. I can't believe in current year we still have a monarchy

No. 531900

>>531893
People wanting different basic rights isnt whats clogging up the system. The system thats in place to pacify citizens into not caring about anything that isnt a hot topic by heavily promoting consumerism into every aspect of life, including things that should be a basic right like education, job security and safety and healthcare is the problem. Americans dont care enough anymore. They are absolutely the definition of complacent when they're using smartphones where they are actively being tracked and spied on ADMITTEDLY, screeching about mens rights to wear a dress and use girls bathrooms or plastic straws or someone calling them fat, and still going to work for companies that are utilizing slave labor overseas, consuming foods that literally cause cancer and heart disease, all of our medications and medical equipment being mass produced and provided by China, landlords overcharging for rent despite underproviding for services, employers making them work long "part time hours" instead of full time so they dont have to pay them for overtime, education and healthcare being set up to put anyone who uses it into debt etc. AMERICANS.DONT.CARE.

No. 531901

>>531896
it's a no brainer to deny the chinese entry when it's all over the news that it's experiencing a virus outbreak. i don't care about the economy, i'm just upset we are more pissed about the racism than actual people dying. i don't care if i offend any asians, i care about the security of my country.

No. 531902

>>531901
The virus has already broken out of containment when the media picked up on. Globalised infrastructure and government means clarity between countries and free sharing of information. You liked how all the different countries staggered out lock downs and social distancing and responses? That's why it's so fucking messy. The virus could have been on goods as well, not just citizens. You're talking about being able to shut down entire countries immediately and secure borders. We still don't have enough test kits, so how was China suppose to stop and undetected spread initially? Nationalism sees EU countries seizing life saving valuable resources for their own gains. The system is broken

No. 531904

>>531901
Its not even racism. Attacking random Asian people on the street is racism. Denying people who were being quarantined in their area due to an outbreak of a dangerous new disease free access to yeet into whatever country they want and coof all over everything and murder thousands of other people, and referring to that disease by a moniker based on the country or area of origin, is not racist.

No. 531905

>>531904
what is wrong with you? Why are you framing the people who travelled with no symptoms before it was known how long the incubation period was as coming over to cough and 'murder thousands of people' do you not see how irrational and unhinged that is

No. 531906

>>531900
The fact that you think their is enough government workers to be able to spy on every American phone is enough for me to not take any of this into consideration.

No. 531908

Has anyone's sleeping habits changed? I find that I'm going to bed earlier and waking up earlier too. I feel like I exhausted all my hobbies and I'd rather sleep.
(Or is this just a slow prelude to some kind of depressive mood)

No. 531909


No. 531912

>>531909
One freak person does not suggest that this was some mass occurrence. Also I think its more likely this person travelled before they showed symptoms and then created this version of events for social media attention. Either way this is clearly just a mentally ill individual

No. 531913

>>531910
Ah yes, the millions of people getting on planes from China even after quarantines were put in place(which was well documented as it was happening on various sites where people were actually paying attention before shit hit the fan in their own backyard), and not being checked at all by any sort of airport or border medical team, free to just go wherever as a mass, doesnt count either! Because we didnt double down on security and medical testing at ALL during the outbreak of Ebola, and didnt monitor people coming out of affected areas despite it clearly being less contagious than COVID. Oh thats right we did. Because we dont trade with African countries the way we do China. We dont outsource every fucking aspect of our daily lives to Africa the way we do with China. So its totally not racist when we do proper protocol with Africa, but it TOTALLY is when we do it with China because like….muh cheap underaged girl slave labor, muh medical supplies, muh toilet paper that we cant even make ourselves because it would require us to actually pay people, muh economy!!!11 The reality is, countries fucked up by not taking immediate action, and its not 1918 anymore so we've had plenty of time to learn and research and understand why borders are actually perfectly fine and should be used in a situation where a potential threat is facing a country. Theres no excuse. People who escaped the quarantines in China and can be traced to patient zero community infection spreads, should be charged. Period.

No. 531914

>>531908
My insomnia is much worse, staying up until at least 2/3 am every night. Just lying in bed awake, even though I feel mostly fine I'm finding it very hard to sleep until I'm completely exhausted.
At least if you're sleeping earlier (and maybe longer ?) Your immune system will be stronger.

No. 531915

>>531913
How can you solely blame China when other countries were letting in citizens etc. We're shutting down travel and industry now globally, but it was slow to roll out and not every country is following similar guidelines which is why its so difficult to contain. Nationalism and borders won't fix this fucking issue if there is no global collaboration to protect people and assets.

No. 531917

>>531915
Other countries are absolutely to blame for not shutting their borders. As I stated. The only reason they didnt was for fear of damaging the trade industry, because so many countries have outsourced almost all their labor to China because they're cheap greedy pieces of shit. They saw what was going on, hence why they started dumping stocks and shit before it even spread anywhere else. Of course they're also to blame. It doesnt disprove anything I said.

No. 531918

Not a super important matter, but I've noticed shopping apps are sending out more desperate alerts to try to get people to buy lately.

No. 531919

>>531917
So you recognise that national interests for the sake of fake economies is a bad idea? Globalisation is key.

No. 531920

>>531887
Is it really though? I think everyone can agree the student debt, housing prices, and employment issues are ridiculous, and if people think it's somehow okay that it's normal for young adults to have three jobs because no job is willing to give enough hours or pay in order to pay their 90 square foot 2000 a month loft and constantly getting sick because of the ridiculous healthcare here, and a lot of people agree college shouldn't put you half a million dollars in debt either

No. 531922

>>531918
I bought from amazon under the illusion that there'd be slight delays, my order is due for delivery in May.

No. 531925

>>531919
I recognize that countries not utilizing their own resources and labor opportunities for fear that employees might actually demand rights, and choosing to outsource everything to a country with vast human rights infractions for the sole purpose of maximum profit, and then sitting around tittering and biting their nails over the idea that they may have to actually have to ~offend~ said country by putting a stop to trade and banning travel from that country and taking an economical hit, is the reason hundreds of thousands of people are dying around the world right now from something we could have instead done more preparing for medically. Hell, even financially. We had three fucking months.

No. 531928

>>531925
America and China aren't the only two countries in the world, but yea your government has trillions in debt so of course there's no money to put into your economy. Destabilising all these fake markets, debt and borrowing, and streamlining to global currency and infrastructure would solve your issues since capitalism is dictated by market forces which you've realised hopefully are not tangible, so regulating a global market, laws and rights would solve your issues. You can still be bitter in a globalised world

No. 531929

>>531928
Every country that didnt take action is responsible, not just America. Every country that uses cheap Chinese labor and outsourcing is at fault.

No. 531930

>>531920
Now, don’t completely shun me when I say this, let me be clear these are not my personal ideals;
But quite frankly, Not everyone agrees with those things or thinks those should be free or available to everyone. And these people have a right to those ideals and they have a right to fight for us not to have those things, just like we have to right to try and fight FOR them. It’s a catch 22 in “freedom”. Some believe in anarchism; and in anarchism, your government isn’t going to pay for you to get an education for example. Rich people think they have the right to buy everything etc. not everyone genuinely believes in these things and that’s just how it is. And not all schooling in going to cost you that much and rich people know it. You’re stretching the numbers a little for your advantage in argument. The world sucks and we all live in very different ways but it would be boring otherwise.

No. 531931

>>531212

The Doctors have told us it would be better if my mother died at home. She has covid and other health issues. She has become really clingly and this whole situation is doing a massive number on my mental health. I have covid and a short supply of benzos and opiods. I am saving them for when my mum dies. It just does not feel real. I want to be with my mum when she passes holding her hands. At the moment she is too sick to say much and is not very luicid, so I am robbed of the chance of saying goodbye properly.

No. 531932

What happened to all the european posters on here? I feel like we were getting alot of updates when Italy first went into quarantine. How are Italian anons doing?

No. 531933

>>531931
Do you have anybody for emotional support anon?

No. 531934

>>531931
I am so sorry anon, there's not much I can say but I'm sending love

No. 531936

>>531931
What an unfortunate update, wishing you strength through this, dear anon.

No. 531937

>>531931
i'm so sorry, anon. i don't know if it's better for her sake that she not be lucid during this time but i hope somehow the virus weakens and the complications subside and she can pull through despite how things are at the moment. crazier things have happened, but at the same time i know how important it is to stay realistic. this is heartbreaking and i'm so sorry. at the least, i am sure she knows you love her. please take care of yourself.

No. 531938

>>531725
haha this is me right now, didn't want to post about it because I know it's my own damn fault.

I'm on a serious taper but yikes I don't want to seize and take up a bed from someone else.

No. 531940

>>531932
>>531708
I know this odd man on FB, he tried way hard to be funny and popular with the Ladies. His whole Identity is the " sick role" he is in his 50's and he seems so angry that he cannot go and bother nurses and waste NHS resources. every few months he does a suicide bait. I told him to shit or get off the pot. I really don't care about the women ( he has no male friends on fB) going off and me and saying if he doies it would my fault. That fucker has no intention of dying. He is just mad that he cannot bother female health staff and his female FB friends are no longer bothering to reacct to his stolen 'jokes' and memes"

No. 531942

>>531937
Thank you Anon. My mum is sleeping atm. She is on Antibiotics and I make sure she is as comfortable as she can be. I feel so helpless. It is so tempting to take drugs, but if I do and something happens I don't know if I can live with myself. Look after your parents Anons and take it seriously. The UK will be like spain and italy in a few weeks.

No. 531944

>>531933
Sadly NO, My mental health team discharged me 2 months ago. but thanks for support.

No. 531946

>>531940
I have an old (single,male) neighbor this reminds me of. He went to A&E lately because he had indigestion, a few weeks earlier he was in for feeling dizzy.

He spends his days either in pubs talking to female bar staff or in hospital pestering nurses.. bars are now closed and hospitals are busy so he's knocking on my door every day.

No. 531947

>>531934
Thank you Anon. I feel like I am going stir crazy, I sleep and live in the same room as my mother she is en suite. I am just praying that she makes it through this. Her mental health has improved a bit, she no longer think that I am her " baby", she seems to have settled down and just sleeps quietly.

No. 531950

>>531643
I hope he gave it to Andrew.

No. 531957

>>531679
>>people who earn nothing or don't file a tax return may not receive any money
This one fucks a lot of people. But hey, it's okay, they gave the IRS over half a billion!
>>531689
>So people on disability get nothing?
I was wondering this too. My mom is on disability, so I wonder if that means she'll get nothing outside of her normal check.

No. 531960

Anon with chest pressure and dry cough here. In the past few hours I've seemed to enter a new stage. Fever, drainage from my nose into my throat, sneezing, and nausea and diarrhea (I almost shit myself while coughing). Still not feeling too particularly bad. If I didn't have the pressure in my chest, I'd feel as if I was just coming down with a cold or at most, a flu. I got some Mucinex so I'll take that before bed tonight and hope it loosens some of this crap up. I'll keep everyone updated.

No. 531966

Unsure if it's better to be stuck at home after losing job, or forced to go to work have have 5000x the amount of work due to layoffs while also being exposed.

No. 531968

so after more news about previously healthy young people getting seriously sick and even dying from corona, i started googling some of their names and to this point if i have found their pictures, they have been fat.

why isn't their weight mentioned? i don't know if many or if even majority of young cases with serious corona infection are over weight, but i think it is a factor that should be mentioned.

No. 531974

>>531968
Well at least in America, we're full of obese people. I'm guessing it's too much of a reality check for the majority of the country. Doubt we'll get a full picture of these "young and healthy!!" deaths because we prefer to sensationalize victims instead of being honest.

That or being overweight is so normalized here that we overlook it as an health issue. Probably that.

No. 531975

>>531968
How fat are talking here? Like morbidly obese or just overweight?

No. 531976

>>531975
obese or clearly over weight, not just little chubbby

No. 531977

>>531968
I think the 21 yo girl in UK that died from it with no preexisting health conditions was of normal weight. Its trending on UK twitter.

No. 531978

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No. 531979

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No. 531980

There's now discussions that maybe one of the reasons why Germany and Italy is doing so bad death-rate wise is because they have some of the highest antibiotics use in Europe, meaning that they can't treat new infections well. (Their meat has 300-400mg per kilo, Norway is at 2-3mg per kilo in comparison)

The US is at about the same rate (300-400mg per kilo) as Germany and Italy.

> The U.S. pork industry uses antibiotics much more intensively in pig production than do other industry leaders. Specifically, U.S. producers use about double the antibiotics per kilogram of pig as are used in the United Kingdom, more than three times as much as in France, and more than seven times the levels used in Denmark or the Netherlands. (Figure 3)



https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/better-bacon-pork-industry-antibiotics-ib.pdf

> In the United States, 70 to 80 percent of the total volume of antibiotics sold each year are used in animals, and the FDA reports that 60 percent of those are “medically important,” meaning they belong to the same class as drugs used in human health.

https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/global-treaty-reduce-antimicrobial-use-livestock.pdf

No. 531981

>>531980
It’s interesting but the one contradiction I can think of is that China imports pork from America

No. 531982

>>531977
She did have mild asthma

No. 531983

Does anyone know how the US payout is going to go?

I made crap in 2018 because I worked part time due to health issues, but in 2019 I switched to full time. Not sure if it is better for me to rush filing my 2019 taxes if that will give me a higher payout? Or if it's one flat rate if you make under 75,000?

My unemployment is shit right now since it is going off 2018 taxes ($175 a week, awesome), I would rather not get fucked further if filing 2019 taxes asap would be better.

No. 531986

I think some of you are having trouble accepting that this virus is going to be real nasty depending on the viral load and are trying to look for anything in the victims to say how it won't be as nasty for you for when, not if, you get infected. I really hope we all have good luck.

No. 531988

>>531986
I think most of us that suspect or have had test confirmation that we have it, are aware of that thanks.

No. 531992

>>531988
Just saying some anons don't need to sound so happy that someone had asthma or was overweight.

No. 531994

>>531992
>>531986
I mean "mild asthma" is barely a "preexisting condition" to make a disease that would otherwise be "just a flu" fucking kill someone. A lot of people may have minor or undetected health problems they have no clue about, and some of the conditions that can exacerbate the severity of infection are pretty common, like asthma and diabetes. Don't be paranoid, but don't be cocky either.
I really, truly hope all of you who are suspecting or confirmed to have it stay safe and recover soon with little to no complications and have all the access to help you need if and when you need it. We're living in strange, concerning times.

No. 531996

>>531842

Your boyfriend with the hillbilly family? Anon, if that was you before and you tried to set a boundary with him, this is getting out of hand.

No. 531997

>>531994
Thank you anon, when I started feeling pressure in my chest, I pretty much knew. I dont know how common its going to be to have this but Im sure Im one of the first people out of everyone I know to have it. And I have moments where Im really not handling it well. Just thinking to myself WHY? HOW? Im so careful of a person and always have been it just doesnt make sense. I have no insurance so Im just praying. Id be lying if I said I wasnt scared, but I've basically made peace by imagining the worst and just putting myself in the place I need to be spiritually. I wish everyone else luck and a quick recovery as well with no complications.

No. 532000

>>531997
How many days have you been symptomatic for?

I wish anons who are COVID positive or suspected would do more updates here.

No. 532004

>>532000
About 3. I honestly dont even know how it started. I havent been out in about a week, with the exception of having to do my taxes a few days ago. But I wasnt near the person and took hand sanitizer with me.If anything,Im sure I caught it at my job, because i was there up until last tuesday. People were still coming in in droves, to return and buy and try on clothes. Thats one of the things that upsets me so much. All this for a fucking non essential clothing shop that should have been closed as soon as lock downs were recommended.

No. 532008

>>531913
>which was well documented as it was happening on various sites
Sounds like crackpot sites tbh

No. 532012

>>531996
lmao yeah that's me, sorry for being so redundant with my posts. This time it was an emergency; we had a weather warning and had to be indoors for safety and his family's home was closer to where he was on the road. Decided he'd just sleep there overnight so he didn't risk driving. He said his family still isn't taking it very seriously but are at least washing their hands after going out and they said they are waiting a day to get their mail. I'm glad they are starting to accept things.

>>532000
>I wish anons who are COVID positive or suspected would do more updates here.
Same, anon.

No. 532017

>>532000
>I wish anons who are COVID positive or suspected would do more updates here.
Honestly anons talking about it has made the situation way more 'real' and scary to me than the lockdown or anything in the media, since I don't personally know anyone affected by it irl. Statistics on the news don't make me emotional the way anons experiences do, I hope everyone and their loved ones pull through ok.

No. 532018

>>532012
My mom works at a hospital (not treating Covid right now but still) and she says she feels like crap for the last 4-5 days but that’s it. No fever, no cough but an unpleasant feeling in the back of her throat and no energy. She’s in her 50s. No idea if she has Covid tho.

No. 532023

>>531724
lol I never thought I'd see anyone this pressed over Chinese goods. This is almost as stupid as those dickheads hoarding toilet paper, same mentality.

No. 532026

>>531728
I was wondering about that. Thanks for clearing that up anon, makes sense.
>>531730
I suggest finding other ways to relax and calm your anxiety. It's still cold where I am so I get to take warm Epsom salt baths and meditate with Enya.

No. 532034

>>531748
Even under normal circumstances this shit isn't allowed. I don't always wear a mask but I take it with me when I go out just in case I come across some asshole like that. Sorry this happened to you anon, people like him need a good punch in the throat.

No. 532035

>>531982
source?

No. 532036

>>531922
Jesus. Did you order medical supplies or something? I ordered a few things at the end of last week, food/shampoo, it was delivered yesterday. USA-fag here.

No. 532037

>>531829
There were protests in 'merica anon, maybe not as prevelant as elsewhere though. I have to hand it to the French, some of the yellow vests are still protesting, so I've heard. The timing of this "virus" couldn't be more convenient.

No. 532041

>>531690
You first EDER.
>>531700
>isn't that just a more efficient form of eugenics
Eugenics by definition requires human intervention, so technically a "more efficient form" would look like Nazi Germany. All eugenics supporters are insane and should seek mental help.

No. 532044

good news anons, when i go back to work i'll be giving a blood sample for the lab to test out the antibody testing kits that the UK government has ordered :) still feeling good, please recommend good video games i can get as digital downloads to get me through quarantine

No. 532047

>>531847
>we value capitalism here. If you make a fuck ton of money, you think that you should be able to keep it all, right?
This ignores Eminent Domain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain
If the govt wants your property for any reason they can take it, compensate you with the amount THEY think is fair and there's fuck all you can do about it. If what you think you own can be taken from you at the whim of the feds, then you effectively own nothing.

Globally, the super wealthy are always getting tax breaks, they keep their money in offshore bank accounts, most of them hoard their wealth. It's the poor and middle class who carry the burden. Your civil liberties all but died after 9/11/Patriot Act, suspension of habeas corpus. The people who don't acknowledge this are living in a fantasy land.

No. 532051

Can you guys cut it out with that "asthma patients are at high-risk of Corona" meme? it has been said thousands of times that if you have your asthma checked and take your inhalers regularly it wouldn't get worse (not to the point of dying) that only happens when your lungs are truly fucked by untreated asthma attacks, asthmatics may get it but if they have their asthma controlled they will be fine. Take precautions though.

No. 532053

The state I go to university in just got a stay-at-home order so employees have to work remotely unless they're excused. I'm currently in my home state wondering if I should just quit and file for unemployment or some shit. I'm annoyed that they just don't want to pay students their normal wages through work study and instead literally told them to apply to different departments. Now what?

No. 532093

>>532044
I spent some 100+ hours on Dragon Age Inquisition recently. Found it adequately mind-numbing. Also replaying all the old Harvest Moons to kill the anxiety!

No. 532096

I'm using this as an excuse to bank up on the crocheted stuffed animal patterns I design and have a whole bunch at the end of this shebang to share with my family. I wish you all strength and health, and I hope you guys find cute ways to fill the time

No. 532097

Do you think it's safe to go to the doctor right now? I have recurring ear problems the last few months and my doctor told me to try new treatment, just allergy meds and nasal spray. She said if that didn't work she'd refer me to a specialist and the only specialist around is in a city that has quite a few confirmed cases of covid. I feel scared to go out into that and risk getting infected by someone in the waiting room but at the same time my ears hurt quite a bit and I have decreased hearing in one of them permanently from my other doctor ignoring my complaints for months. Anyway I guess I'm not sure how to weigh my options, I need to see someone so I don't have more scarring on my eardrum but I also can't afford to get coronavirus because I have been on close to ten rounds of antibiotics in the last year and now I get sick at the drop of a pin. What would you anons do at this point if you had a medical issue you needed treatment for?

No. 532101

>>532097
would you even be able to see a doctor? all the standard non life threatening appointments were cancelled where I live. If you feel your at risk of getting sick I just wouldn't risk it but that's just me personally

No. 532109

>>531986
Already had it. Felt like a cold. Who cares.

No. 532115

If you're a dependent on somebody's taxes you're not eligible for the $1,200 or anything lmao there goes my hope for paying my tuition or literally anything after I just got laid off. Just fucking kill me at this point

No. 532116

>>532109
Guess we can lock the thread now.
Thanks for putting our minds at ease.

No. 532117

>>531980


What are you even talking about, anon? Germany has one of the lowest death rates in this, period.

No. 532119

>>532097
If you are in the uk, GPs have been advised to not give referral for anything for the foreseeable ever as everyone is on the frontline.
ENTs are particularly in demand given the nature of the disease right now.
If your ear problem is not life threatening, be patient and wait for the end of confinement

No. 532121

Seeing more and more (otherwise healthy) younger people rolling in ICU, deteriorating rapidly, some dying. Don't think because you're young you'll be spared. Saw a 32 years old in a medically induced coma.
Be warned people.

No. 532122

>>532121
Do you work in the ICU or you’re just seeing them rolling in? How could you tell if someone is ‘otherwise healthy’ just by looking at them?

No. 532123

>>532117

Not just that - It´s also news to me that a viral infection now gets treated with antibiotics.

No. 532124

>>532121
good thing I am not 32 then

No. 532127

>>532117
NTA but I guess it could be because when the viral infection puts your immune system into a weak state and opens the door for additional bacterial infections, it ultimately makes your chance for death bigger. Antibiotics work against preventing that. Like Corona necessarily doesn't cause pneumonia but it could compromise your health so that you contract bacteria that does cause it.

No. 532130

>>531695
>anti-lockdown propaganda
There's propaganda everywhere, including promoting the lockdown. I see no reason for anything but taking reasonable precautions. What is staying 6ft away from other people supposed to do exactly? There's reasonable safeguards like washing hands, covering mouth, then there's tarding out and becoming a Howard Hughes meme. When it stops raining, I'm leaving the Borg and going for a walk in the sunshine.

No. 532132

>>532051
This. As an asthmatic I was almost killed by a regular case of bronchitis because I wasn't medicated. Now that I am I've plowed through severe influenza without trouble. There's a huge difference between a medicated, stable asthma and an unmedicated, severe condition. Asthmanons, take your meds and up your dose a bit if possible. You'll do fine.

No. 532135

>>532127

The pneumonia caused by covid is not a bacterial pneumonia though, so antibiotics would do nothing to help it. It´s a penumonia that is unique to this illness, that is why the people who develop this covid penumonia have such problems. And yes, of course one could become infected twice, with covid and with pneumonia causing bacteria, but this really doesn´t seem to have been a problem so far. Maybe in a couple of cases, but not a common one. And getting back to the original post/statement, Germany, a country with high anti-biotic use, has very low death rates, unlike other countries with high anti-biotic use, so the anti-biotic use doesn´t really seem to be the issue.

No. 532137

>>532134
>>532135
AYRT and I didn't say it was the pneumonia caused by corona, but an additional infection caused by bacteria that was contracted because of corona weakening the immune system. There have been cases of doctors saying that while antibiotics don't work with treating corona, they have been used for this exact case I described

No. 532140

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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

>As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

>[UK public health bodies] have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall)

Interesting decision.

I'm of the mind that much of what we're hearing in the media (and especially the bs coming out of China) is hyped up, hysterical nonsense anyway. USA fag here, any UK fags care to chime in?

No. 532141

>>532137

Yes, and obviously anti-biotics would work is a person has been infected with pneumonia causing bacteria. And also yes, a double infection with covid and bacterial pneumonia is a possiblity. What I am saying is that not all covid patients have such a double infection, and it is questionable whether the ones that do are plentiful enough to cause a countries covid deathrates to go up so dramtically. Especially since, as we can see when comparing the three countries that were mentioned, the amount of national anti-biotic use does not seem to have any impact on the death rates. THAT is what I am saying.

No. 532143

The conventions I was going to do in the next three months got cancelled, but my government gave me a wage subsidy that's more than I earn at those cons.

Feels good anons

No. 532152

Boomers can die. I work with public and 95% of people you see out and about not giving a fuck about the social distancing rules are boomers and old fucks. Yet they still bitch about five year olds playing together for 10 minutes.

No. 532155

My country is creating, printing and posting out a covid info booklet. Every household in the country will receive one soon… in a time where we all have tv and internet and where there is nothing new to learn from this booklet.

The postal service is already struggling because they have to cut back on hours and staff to allow for social distancing at postal sorting facilities. What a waste of money and work hours.

Didnt the UK just send everyone a text message?

No. 532160

>>532155

you know some old people don't know how to use the internet and so on. i have a relative who is old and wont read text messages but has her son read them to her when he visits.

No. 532161

>>532160
Obviously. That's why I mentioned tv coverage, tv and radio have been talking about nothing but this for weeks and they are still printing a leaflet with basic info and paying for millions of copies to be sent out.

No. 532162

>>532119
>>532101
I'm in the US in a state that hasn't been hit too hard yet. My ears aren't life threatening but I already have lost hearing from this ongoing ear infection. I know people are dying but I don't want to be deaf after it's over either. I'm worried we'll be put on lockdown for months soon and then I'll never be able to hear anything again. I guess it's not really worth the risk it's just front at my mind because it's getting really painful.

No. 532164

>>531722
I got a call yesterday to say the staff weren't going in anymore and that they wouldn't need me to go in either. I'm so relieved. I live with someone who cares for elderly ppl, one of them being in the extremely vulnerable category bc of COPD so this is good news.

I was close to saying sorry but I'm not going in honestly. you're right though, that job really was not worth the risk.

No. 532165

>>531978
poor girl, rest in peace. this is crazy

No. 532170

My local hospital is overwhelmed, it’s the center of covid-19 cases right now in my state. I’ve been reading up on what’s been going on in there and it’s extremely grim. I’m so worried of my parents getting it and inevitably having to be brought to that hospital that’s bursting at the seams, constantly on the verge of running out of much needed supplies, and seeing patients die while doctors are attended to other patients because they’re so overwhelmed. I wish the state would fucking do something. I wish our stupid government would do something!!!!!

No. 532173

>>532143
>that's more than I earn at those cons
I don’t think that would surprise many people

No. 532174

>>531968
Young, healthy person has a chance to die from coronavirus, it's a fact and it's known for months. Young, healthy person has also a tiny (smaller than from covid) chance to die from a common flu. It's a bad luck, immune system is not perfect, sometimes it just reacts incorrectly. Estimation was that it's 0.2% chance to die from covid for 20-30 years old, but it might be lower, because cases of infected young people are probably underreported.

No. 532175

>>531960
Sounds exactly like how someone else described symptoms. Look after yourself anon, if it worsens dont ignore it

No. 532176

>>531615
Literally all first hand accounts I've read (probably 5-6 now) describe it as this. It may or may not develop into pain as you inhale "feels like my lungs are filled with tiny pieces of glass"

No. 532179

>>532162
Call your doctor and see what they say.

No. 532180

Praying for Covanons and their families. Thank you for your posts and updates. I kinda hoped no one on this board would get it due to high NEET content, very sorry to hear that some of you do. Keep updating the thread and know we are out there thinking of you.

No. 532184

>>532180
> kinda hoped no one on this board would get it due to high NEET content

Been kind of wild watching this go from a thread full of gloating Neets saying they'll never catch it to seeing some now suspect they or a family member have it, and then a couple of confirmed/serious cases in top of that. Shit changed fast.

No. 532188

>>531725
Anyone else drinking way too much in quarantine? Fuck there’s just nothing to do. I thought I kicked my drinking problem before this and now I’m slipping back into old habits. Not looking forward to withdrawing

No. 532189

>>532000
Hi i am the Anon that has covid and a mother that may die of it. what in particular would you like to know?

No. 532197

>>532109
Those of us with loved ones and those who are not callous cunts, fuck off with your 2edgy4me bullshit. you probably just had a cold not Covid.

No. 532198

>>532123
my mum has bacterial pnemonia as well as covid as she is on anti biotics. I don'y know which come first.

No. 532199

>>532188
I'm the opposite, living alone and trying to limit my trips to the store so only buying the essentials when I do go out.. haven't drank at all since the start of this.

No. 532202

has anyone had tongue pain with corona virus? some time ago i had a strange pain in my throat and back of my tongue. i had spend time with someone who had recently been in china and had been sick with cough and fever, she didn't return from wuhan though which at the time was thought to be the only place to be worried about.

No. 532211

>>532202
My husband had this pain, too, but we haven't been out in at least two weeks. I think it's a coincidence?

No. 532218

>>531977
not to be gruesome, but this should say no known preexisting health conditions, theres many cases of healthy young folk who drop dead, or are taken out by a simple sickness, and it turns out they had some condition that was never discovered.

No. 532225

File: 1585235574544.png (9.37 KB, 256x256, youtube-play-button-transparen…)

Here's the youtube-dl tutorial for anyone who wants to save Playlists or Channels in case of an emergency. I'm sorry for the lenght and eventual grammatical errors, but I wanted to explain it in all small steps and am also ESL. Feel free to ask if there's anything unclear!

1. Go to: http://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
2. Click on the highlighted "Windows exe" version of youtube-dl (https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2020.03.24/youtube-dl.exe) and download/save it
3. Memorize where you saved it
4. Click on the Windows Icon on the botton left of your desktop and type in "cmd"
5. You click on the App "Command Window"(or whatever it is in your language) and a black window opens

Now, youtube-dl works via specific commands you type into the command window. For that, you have to basically enter the location of your exe file, the location where you want to save the videos to, your specific commands about video details and last but not least, the link to your desired video/playlist/channel.
So the first thing we need to know, is the exact file location of your exe file.

6.Open the folder where the .exe is saved, look at the line at the top of the window where "your name > your folder" is written and click on it. Then right-click on it and choose copy or cut (or alternatively, click Ctrl+C or Ctrl+X)

7. Open the Command Window again,paste it in there and add "\youtube-dl.exe" at the end.
>For example, C:\Users\Farmerchan(your PC username)\MyPrograms(your folder/s)\youtube-dl.exe

8. Now prepare the location where you want to save the playlist to in the same manner. Create a folder, copy the location string of the folder but when adding it into the command window, add an "-o" at the front, ditch the "C:\Users\Farmerchan" part and add an /%(title)s.mp4 at the end and put it in ""s. You can choose other formats than mp4 too, but I personally had no success with trying .mp3 sound files. It downloaded the them but they didn't play properly. Anyway, that part of the command window string could look like this:
>-o "/Videos/youtube-dl/My Lolcow Playlist/%(title)s.mp4"
In full, there should be the following written in your black command window so far:
>C:\Users\Farmerchan\MyPrograms\youtube-dl.exe -o "/Videos/youtube-dl/My Lolcow Playlist/%(title)s.mp4

9.After that is done, you can use the many commands youtube-dl offers and then add your playlist link at the end. There is a good guide on all the commands here: https://www.ostechnix.com/youtube-dl-tutorial-with-examples-for-beginners/ but for now I will go with my usual template and explain it to you. The template with the examples above is the following:
>C:\Users\Farmerchan\MyPrograms\youtube-dl.exe -o "/Videos/youtube-dl/My Lolcow Playlist/%(title)s.mp4 –format best –format mp4 –write-description –write-info-json –write-annotations –write-sub –write-thumbnail –ignore-errors https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL57Z1VrI9Y8wL9JLOwSpB_KDy1qvkqDMV

As you can see, anything after the "-" are commands. This is what they stand for:
-o : In which folder you want to download the videos to.
–format best : Automatically downloads the videos in the highest available resolution (like 720p etc).
–format mp4 : Downloads the videos in mp4 format.
–write-description : Downloads the video description in an text file, together with the video! (My Windows is retarded and saves it literally as an ".description" file, but you can just open it with notepad)
–write-info-json : Downloads the video's metadata, including used tags and more.
–write-annotations : Downloads the video's annotations in .xml format. You can usually open it with any browser.
–write-sub : Downloads the video's subtitles in .vtt format
–write-thumbnail : Downloads the thumblail with the video.
–ignore-errors : Youtube-dl tends to stop completely when errors like deleted videos or country restrictions occur. This way, those errors just get skipped.

10. Press enter and that's it!

No. 532226

>>531765
This is what happens when you lock down cities two months after the first certified case instead of closing down stuff immediately after a week

No. 532233

>>532225
I forgot to say, if you want to cancel the command in the command window, just press ctrl+c.

And for some reason Lolcow formats double "- -" as one line. All the commands we added at the last step need two lines in front of them. So it would be:
C:\Users\Farmerchan\MyPrograms\youtube-dl.exe -o "/Videos/youtube-dl/My Lolcow Playlist/%(title)s.mp4" - -format best - -format mp4 - -write-description - -write-info-json - -write-annotations - -write-sub - -write-thumbnail - -ignore-errors https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL57Z1VrI9Y8wL9JLOwSpB_KDy1qvkqDMV

..without the blank space inbetween it.

No. 532239

>didn't check covid cases of my country for a week
>decide to do it again
>26k cases and 180 deaths more
Wew

No. 532240

I keep having dreams I have covid. I don't think I have it (no symptoms) but I could just be an asymptomatic case. In either case, I wish my brain could stop dreaming this.

No. 532242

>>532240
Same here anon

No. 532249


No. 532254

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>>532240
That's it! we CANT know, anons.

All gotta check obsessively, learn the symptoms and dont interact with anyone (even more than usual).

>>532242

…It's a sad state of affairs we're in, but hopefully it's not covid aka china fucks us all for fun-19

Make sure you get your masks and disinfectants, anons. and if you have any retarded family members, repeat it into them how they need to stay safe, im sure i'm not the only anon with idiots to teach about basic virility.

No. 532255

>>532240
I've started almost imagining symptoms when I'm laying in bed at night. I'm ocd so I guess it makes sense that my worries would manifest like that. Anyone else full on imagining symptoms?

No. 532264

I'm American, but I've been studying abroad in a country that only has a few hundred cases so far because they took it seriously much faster than a lot of other countries. I have to go back to the US in June and I'm scared to death, not only because of the obvious reasons, but because I don't have American health insurance, so if I get it I am completely fucked. I'm on the verge of a complete meltdown over it, but I'm trying really hard to keep it together. I know countless people are far worse off than I am, but that doesn't "put things in perspective" and make me feel any better about my own circumstances, it just makes it all so much worse to be reminded of that.

I'm also really scared for my best friend. She's in a high risk area and I want so badly for her to come here and stay with me, where she will be safe, but she can't for so many reasons. Not only the potential of bringing it here if she unknowingly has it, but her fiance is an essential worker and they have 3 cats, so they couldn't come anyway.

I'm losing my shit, anons.

No. 532276

>>532264

Get a job and stay anon, usually even if you finish your course students will have a 1-2 month window to return to their home country so you could use that time to look for employment and housing.

No. 532278

>>532255
The worldwide outbreak of panic is even greater than the virus outbreak.

Everybody and their dog feels off and has random symptoms.

People who used to go to work with full on pneumonia suddenly feel dread when they think they might have maybe an itch at the back of their throat.

Someone reported they lost their sense of smell when infected, suddenly this symptom is on people's radar, and gets included in the anxiety bingo. People who recovered from corona start retroactively claiming they had it. The percentage for the symptom becomes ridiculous - 30-60% range.

Can't trust people to know what symptoms they're experiencing right now, because they all feel ill because they all feel FEAR.

This is why the government says to call the doctors when you have one of just two things from a myriad of symptoms: a persistent cough and/or fever - both are concrete, measurable things that do not rely on feeling (like a sore throat or chest tightness)

No. 532287

>>532278
Yeah the vast, vast majority of people who requested corona testing in my country didn't have it. We were pretty generous at handing out tests but I feel like a whole lot of tests were wasted in the panic. Now we're short on them.

No. 532288

>>532255
Yes lmao, i keep thinking ive got the diarrhea associated with early symptoms, along with shortness of breath.
Like i legit have diagnosed ibs and have shit lungs already, idk why the fuck i keep freaking out. I legit have an anxiety attack every couple of days bc of a tummy rumble and a cough

No. 532291

>>532287
even here where only severe cases are tested out of thousands tests majority doesn't have the virus.

No. 532299

Anybody else have their period during all this? I have cramps but Im scared to take anything.

No. 532305

>>532299
use a warm or cold cloth on your tummy, do breath excercises. Try to hold on there, but also don't panic, it'll make things worst.
I think my period is due later this week but I'm used to endure any cramp I have with no pills, if it's too bad I take some tea and try to relax.

No. 532307

>>532299
Bottle with hot water should help, if you don't have a special one make sure you wrap a regular one in a tshirt.

No. 532311

Did anyone in college get info from their professors about what they would do if a student gets corona? I’m kind of nervous to ask my professor about it right after our break

>>532264
Depending on where you live you might be able to get on state insurance, I know my state reopened theirs so that might be an option.

No. 532313

>>532240
I keep having dreams about grocery shopping

No. 532379

How is corona virus affecting US elections? Are people ignoring it for the panic?

No. 532380

U.S. to overtake Italy in number of cases

No. 532381

>>532380
i believe thats because italy more or less has reached a peak?
they are still reporting new cases daily but the usa is just getting started in their testing and confirming, so yeah its gonna be rough for a few weeks here just like it was for italy

No. 532382

>>532381
Italy is predicted to reach a peak around the first days of April
More than 80 thousand cases in total in Italy right now (March 26)

No. 532383

>>532382
If this goes on for a month or two, three, five, it's bad, because hospitals are strained already

No. 532388

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A significant number of people in similar condition to me (young and with no preexisting conditions) who have tested positive say it started with a sore throat and dry cough. I’ve had these symptoms for 2 days now and want to get tested tomorrow.

No. 532389

>>532388
Not everybody has the same symptoms in the same order or over the same amount of time. Thats what is making this so hard to diagnose without testing. I hope you are able to get tested anon, but remember that there is a limited amount of tests, and a sore throat and dry cough dont necessarily mean you have it or that if you do, its gong to be severe. Where are you from? Because some countries are testing everyone and others(USA) are only testing people they think are going to need hospitalization because they dont have enough tests for everyone.

No. 532390

I hate how in the cruddy country I'm trapped in has no running water

No. 532391

>>532390
Internet access but no running water? Where the hell are you? I'd like to know so to avoid this
cursed place.

No. 532393

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No. 532397

>>532264
I got COVID19. I work in healthcare, got it due to running out of protective equipment and patient overload.

I have no health insurance. It was fairly shitty, took me about 20 days to get better, but unless you are immunocompromised you will be fine anon. Try not to spiral.

No. 532398

>>532397
I am sorry to hear you got sick for so long, but also glad to hear it isn't too scary! A quick question too, is it worth wearing a mask? I work in a supermarket and I see hundreds of people a day who may or may not be contagious.

No. 532399

>>532389
You’re right. I’m an American and am actually pretty confused about everything… but if testing and hospitalization aren’t essential, in which I just learned they aren’t, I’m just going to isolate myself and save the tests and doctors time.

No. 532405

>>532399
I do think thats for the best anon. Im American too and I understand how scary it is and lots of people are confused and think they have it. Just relax, and do what you would do if you have a cold/flu. Stay hydrated, rest as much as you feel you need to, eat well(less sugar, more protein and citrus) and ofc if you feel you start having problems with breathing or a fever that is very high grade and lasts for a long time, its perfectly fine to call a doctor or emergency number.

No. 532407

>>532398
Thanks anon, yeah it wasn't too bad but definitely not fun. The hard part for me was the lungs. It affected mine a lot, but if you do all the typical flu remedies it can help. Getting some things to help with lung support to have on hand is a great idea. Hot showers and a humidifier were the only things that actually made it so I could breathe because again, no insurance, and I could not afford the inhaler I needed. Can post more info if anyone wants, including some good vitamins to take. Mine also started with that burning scratchy throat, dry cough, then fever. Onset was fast, maybe 5-7 hours, but it can vary.


For masks, good question. Honestly, it is yes and no:

N95 is the best option, but it needs to be fitted to your head specifically to work. Also, it can be a double edge sword. You have to be careful- the second you touch the mask with unclean hands, you are potentially putting the germs on it to directly inhale and then increase infection rate. So a mask is great if you ONLY touch with clean hands. Otherwise, it can actually cause you to get sick more easily because the virus is sitting there.

If you absolutely must go outside for something, a mask is a good idea provided you only touch it with clean hands. (Or just don't touch at all until you get home.) If home or in the car, I would say skip it unless with someone immunocompromised. However, sadly a mask probably won't prevent them from getting infected if you live together and quarantining is key.

That being said, if you have to work in the godforsaken state of the world right now, a mask only helps up to a certain point. Trying to boost your immune system, getting enough sleep, wash your hands, taking time to de-stress/decompress, and staying the hell away from everyone in serious quarantine/social distancing fashion as much as possible is going to be the best thing. Prevention is very difficult with how things are now, so those are some of the best steps to take.

Sorry for rambling!

No. 532409

>>532407
You work in healthcare and dont have insurance? That breaks my heart…jesus…Thank you for your service, and Im glad you are better now.

No. 532410

>>532393
And people say karma isn't real

No. 532411

>>532399
>I’m just going to isolate myself and save the tests and doctors time.
That's a very responsible thing to do, thank you. My friend works in health care and she's so pissed about people who have nowhere near life-threatening symptoms (mostly a cough and a fever less than 40c/104f) thinking they need a doctor and hospitalization just because it's COVID-19, even if they could just stay in bed at home. If your symptoms are just similar to regular cold (which 96% of the cases are) then don't bother the hospitals. Just rest at home and keep in self-quarantine. It might suck like all flus do but leave the bed at the hospital for someone who really needs it. Unless you actually become that someone.

No. 532413

>>532409
Thought the same thing when reading anon's post. USA's health care system fucks my mind up something fierce. How do you survive to adulthood in there unless you're super rich?

No. 532417

>>532413
We have a lot of supplemental "insurance" companies and government programs for low income families, particularly children. Its once you become an adult that you're more fucked tbh because you basically have to go into the workforce and hope and pray you qualify for the insurance program your company offers, and even those can be really shitty for low tier jobs such as retail and fast food etc. They come out of your paycheck so if you're barely getting paid in the first place, good luck affording rent, food, or literally anything else if you sign up for one of those plans.

No. 532425

My BF is working ot since he works in an essential field and the workplace is slowly being sent home because people are getting sick. I’m so fucking paranoid. We are near philly where it’s popping off the most in the state, I don’t have insurance yet since I’m in the first 90 days of my employment. Let this be over soon. I wish PA would place even more restrictions. NYC isn’t that far and Jersey isn’t having a fun time.

No. 532426

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Shit really hit the fan within just a day in the US.
Normally I'd like to be smug now, because so many Muricans always acted all superior, plus the president they elected brought so much fear over the entire world…but yeah, now's not the time. Good luck.

Looking at Germany, Austria, Switzerland and scandinavian countries likely gives us the real death rate percentage, so just imagine how many people in Italy were actually infected (without noticing or simply not getting tested) to result in so many deaths.
But I'm positive that Italy hit it's peak now and will soon get better. Quarantine simply takes a while to show results.

No. 532428

I am a UK fag who has just been told my hospital ward is being turned into the COVID 19 ward, last time I was in we had no equipment and what we did have was to share (masks etc). I now can’t come home because my family are all high risk. How fucked am I rn?

No. 532433

So when do you all think this will be over? I'm seeing a lot of rescheduled events for August/September (in the US).

What a weird time. I don't remember anything this drastic going on with H1N1 aside from a few worried glances if you felt even a little sick in public.

No. 532444

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>>532426
>Germany's death count inbetween those thousands with less infects

No. 532446

>>532391
El Salvador

No. 532448

>>532441
Lol, that sounds like it's just another way to hide and mess with the statistics. Now they can pretend the second covid wave is something else.

No. 532451

>>532441
Hantaviruses have been recorded for decades, they aren't a novel thing emerging out of china, obviously usually a single human death from a virus wouldn't make the news and isn't something to worry about even though it's understandable for people to be paranoid in the current climate.

Hanta viruses are really uncommon and rarely spread between humans. Human to human transmission isn't impossible but it is extremely rare and is usually transmitted through human contact with excrement from rodents.

No. 532455

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No. 532457

>>532441
If you read the exact article you shared you'd see why not to worry about it anon. I read it yesterday and the title is concerning but then the article slowly stops bullshitting us and turns mundane

The metro isn't a great news source

No. 532458

>>532428
Do they have doctors quarters at your hospital?
>>532433
An event i had booked for March has been rescheduled for January. I'm hoping we'll be out of this by then

No. 532460

>>532409
Thanks anon, that means a lot. Kindness like this is the only thing that really keeps me going these days. (I'm back to work already and luckily some patients are being nicer now, but a lot of them are being impatient monsters with no understanding that there is a pandemic and they have to wait a bit?) I also had to use up all my PTO while sick which sucks, was hoping to get away for a week to go camping or something this summer for the firs time in 4 years but instead my vacation was COVID19 lol.

>>532413
Yeah, tbh I kind of just want to give up and move or work somewhere else once things settle. I feel like I just can't ever be sick, if I do I lose money, but I am exposed to all sort of stuff every day. But even other healthcare jobs that have insurance included make you pay super high mandatory union fees, underpay you, or you have to pay up the butt for the good plans with high premiums and deductibles. Lots of times for the cheaper plans, the care you need isn't even covered… they give you bottom of the barrel plans unless you are in EMS/Fire/Police, I think?

I will keep working until COVID19 is a little more under control, but then I think I am done with working in healthcare. This whole situation scared me straight, especially how everything fell apart so fast. (Seattle has been a shitshow.) It is more apparent now than ever I just live to work and all my money goes towards nothing and when I actually need care, especially in a situation like this were it was exposure due to my work, there is nothing left for me. I am already out a ton of money since I couldn't work, and I would have had more bills if I had seen a Dr and paid full price for the medications I needed, which don't even completely help COVID19. It is so expensive for low-middle working class to afford insurance. My work does not provide insurance despite me being full time so I would have to do it through the state- I don't even make that much a year but the monthly premiums plus the deductible for my wage bracket is ridiculously high in ratio of what I make, like 1/3 my yearly earnings… for the OPPORTUNITY to THEN have coverage. (I don't even make that much to begin with and my paycheck taxes are high too, it sucks.) So all in all, me having insurance isn't even worth it unless I basically am close to death, so no healthcare for me unless I am dying and ok with ruining my credit forever.

Sorry, major tldr; about my work and insurance woes. But it felt good venting, sorry for the rant.

No. 532467

>>532444
More testing, dumbass.
Germany, Austria or Luxembourg, meaning countries who can actually test a lot, all have similar numbers of ~0.5

Italy having around one and a half million infected and therefore 8000 deaths makes much more sense than "just" 80.000
In S.Korea they also test a lot and they were surprised just how many seemingly healthy young people were running around while actually ill, and these people are not tested in Italy or Spain.

No. 532469

>>532455
That's really fucking sad.

No. 532470

>>532428
depends where you are anon, lots of hospitals have agreements with hotels rn to provide accommodation for those who can't go home

No. 532471

my corona diary update: still feeling good, got to hear the clapping for the nhs through the window, wholesome shit all around

honestly day 2 and 3 sucked but we're at day 6 now and all is well

No. 532487

I hate how this is making me question if I or any member of my family have the virus even if we’re just showing common cold symptoms. I’ve been feeling so worried because I’ve had a really stuffed up nose, and developed an itchy cough (that isn’t persistent..) but I haven’t got a temperature and I’m hoping it’s caused by the pollen in the air right now? I can’t help this overwhelming sense of dread that I’m spreading the virus to my family and dooming us all. The area I’m in hasn’t had any confirmed cases so far and we’re pretty secluded, but I know that 2 weeks ago I was working in a cafe with tons of international customers so my anxiety is going buck wild atm.

No. 532495

I didn't vote for Boris and hate him as a person and politician but does anyone else really look forward to the update everyday? I feel as if it's like the next episode of a TV show. I literally sit there waiting for it to start

No. 532510

>>532495
I hate Boris and have made a point to never listen or watch any of his shite. I just get my news online and haven't felt like I'm missing out on anything.

No. 532512

anyone else have this weird anxiety about wasting quarantine? like if you don't write a seminal novel or get ripped or learn a new language you've doomed yourself

>>532495
my parents have been doing that so i understand

No. 532513

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-symptoms-start-slow-and-worsen-quickly-doctors-say-2020-3%3famp

I recently read this article and am scared.

I’ve been sick for over a week and haven’t been diagnosed with the Coronavirus yet due to my family’s fear of myself being interned at the hospital right away with no visitation because of how contagious it is, plus our doctors probably have it now according to the news.

The only symptoms I currently have are coughing, slight to no fever, tiredness and a leaky nose. Now they’re saying you’ll get worse?!

No. 532515

>>532512
ive actually started learning german and i definitely think its a great skill to speak multiple languages and this is the perfect time to do it!
you could download duolingo and pick a language!

No. 532516

>>532515
i have been working on my french during quarantine! finished the duolingo course unfortunately but reading and listening to a lot. i still feel like if i'm not 100% fluent and don't pick up like 2 extra languages while i'm at it it will have been a waste. like no matter what i do, i could have spent my time better

No. 532517

>>532513
I wouldn't worry or panic cause you could exeberate symptoms or just worry yourself sick. There's a lot of allergens about at the minute and my allergies for this time of year have been playing up, but since I've been lockdown and only been out once this week the symptoms have pretty much gone

No. 532518

>>532490
I've seen so many people compare it to running down to watch love Island or a soap like Corrie, it's quite a nation event now

No. 532520

>>532513
Anon it varies from one person to the next. The incubation period has been said to be between 4 and 14 days in various reports. Some people get symptoms earlier, some later. Some people start out with cold like symptoms, some get right into the worst parts within 5 days of becoming symptomatic. Just do what you would do if you had a cold. Dont worry unless you start having breathing issues. Panic can literally exacerbate anything you have. Just relax and be on top of it the way you would if you had a flu. Have a stock of OTC flu medications, and some tylenol(not ibuprofin) drink hot teas, water, eat citrus, get vitamins that contain vitamin b,c and d and zinc. People are still surviving this without hospitalization. Dont let the numbers scare you. There are billions of people in this world, and quite a lot of people have this and arent counted in the official numbers because they dont get tested and are recovering on their own, at home.

No. 532547

is there any predictions for when this is gonna end… it feels like its been going on for like 3 months

No. 532548

Happy 1984, everyone. Don't forget your daily Two Minutes Hate/boot licking for muh health.

No. 532549

>>532547
late june if we're lucky

No. 532551

>>532549
this is so depressing

No. 532552

>>532517
>>532520
Thank you and I’ll try not to panic <3

Lately I haven’t gone outs except to take out the trash and get mail; currently I’m still taking OTC medicine and a breathing spray which is kind of helping with my allergies (I just hope it’s the usual allergies).

I hope by the next 2 weeks I’ll be up and about because I need to start looking for jobs or paid internships, cash in my tax refund checks as well as opening a savings account, apply for unemployment and update my financial aid applications for the fall semester.

No. 532553

>>532551
yeah, the length of this quarantine just sort of hit me today.

No. 532554

>>532553
As a past and now current neet and introvert, I’m used to it. The only bright side of this cooking; I like to cook as I find it soothing and productive

No. 532555

>>532426
So we're still legitimizing China's data even though China "diagnoses" Covid19 using CT scans of the lungs, a method rejected by the CDC? K.

No. 532557

>>532548
A lot of people are suspending their critical thinking - not like that wasn't going on before lol, but it's even more so now because they're in survival mode. Some people will get the message, some won't. C'est la vie.

No. 532561

>>532557
>>532548
The video is 1h+, care to write a summary?

No. 532562

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>>532561
It's your basic schizo rambles. I watched a bit and he's comparing corona to a movie called 12 monkeys, virus mad by animal activist kills most of humanity letting animals control earth. He compares current events to the movie (The films wash your hands propaganda compared to whats going on now. Animals taking over compared with the videos of the penguins wondering the zoo free). I really want to find it interesting, but look at him and his comments nothing except schizo

No. 532563

>>532555
>the CDC
tbh I wouldn't hold the CDC as kind of expert authorative anymore, considering their current guidelines for healthcare workers.

No. 532567

>>532562
People are fucking retarded. If this is a conspiracy that they're wanting to kill people then why is everything shutting down to save people??

No. 532573

This pandemic is making me think of how I was raised to believe the world was going to end. I'm sure there must be a ton of Christians out there right now saying that covid 19 is a biblical prophecy and armageddon is nigh. Lmao.

No. 532574

Anon living in Tokyo here.

The governor has asked everybody to try to stay home the whole weekend, Im sure this is because this is THE hanami weekend (last week was too but the flowers are even nicer now). Will people follow orders? Who knows. Either way there are huge trash bins and portable bathrooms in the parks (in preparation for the parties). So far everybody is still chill as fuck, except from people buying more food but still out and about. Schools are supposed to be reopen on April 6.

No. 532575

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>>532574
Forgot to add, love how the governor came out with the "stay at home please" thing not even one day after the Olympics were delayed and magically the cases in Tokyo went up to 40 or so

No. 532576

Are any of you anons sick? Asking because our country started to double on sick people every day just now, and I want to know, how does it feel to be sick.

I'm starting to feel some kind of tension in the upper part of my chest, but I didn't have any contact with people who came from abroad, who are number one contaminated case here right now. That means, I'm not up to be tested for covid. But there are probably thousands of contaminated people already, and I've been going out of my house regularly, took public transport, even taxi.

All contaminated people who came from abroad were isolated immediately, but covid spreads nevertheless, and it's spreading fast now. I's dumb to think that it's under control, and I just want to know what symptoms are, yours, or of the people you know.

No. 532577

>>532573
Same. And honestly they're really going in about it now especially. Jim Bakker just got busted for trying to sell collidal silver. They are telling people because there is the pandemic, and the locust plague, and discrimination against the church(aka states banning gatherings of a lot of people and forcing churches to shut down like literally every other non essential business) that its a biblical scenario and people are believing it and sending their money like crazy to these scammers smh.

No. 532581

>>532576
Tightness in the chest for literally 4 days now. I've had it before when I had a cold but it never felt like this. Im not coughing a lot, more like having to constantly clear my throat because it feels like I have phleme or mucus stuck in it. I was running a fever for about an hour yesterday. Thats literally it. I also havent eaten much in almost 2 weeks but thats because im a stress non eater. Ive been having panic attacks for about two weeks and thus, cant eat. I get nauseas but have not vomited or anything. Like I've said to a lot of anons here, panic attacks and stress can make you feel like absolute utter shit, and put so much more strain on you than you know. My panic attacks quite literally cause me to not be able to breathe, and to have an extreme tightness in my chest and in other muscles in my body. But the tightness in my chest right now is not normal and I do think its something to watch. But I am relaxing, distracting myself, still trying to get a little exercise in because im not experiencing shortness of breath, and loading up on vitamins, water, hot tea, and citrus as much as possible. Also currently taking dayquil and nyquil when the mucus starts making me cough to the point where its an annoyance, or when I feel I may be getting a fever. Also sleeping whenever I feel I need to.

No. 532582

>>532576
My case is kinda weird.
Ive been sick since late February. Got a sore throat and then dry coughs. I got super worried so I kept checking my temp. Normal temp and no fevers.

I had horrible lung vibrating coughs and sore throat. No fever, no body aches, no sinus pressure. Just a cough. I was so sure I got the virus and decided maybe I have the "mild" symptoms.

Nope, I got strep throat of all things during a pandemic. Looked into the back of my throat and saw white spots.
I am just now getting better. I dont know how to feel overall It was a rollercoaster. I have never had a cold that lasted 4 weeks. I couldnt sleep because I was coughing so much. Finally just 3 days ago after weeks of that, I got diagnosed over the phone with my doc and got prescribed antibiotics. She was kind of just taking my word based on the symptoms. They're already helping me so much.
I can finally talk and breath without problems. I dont ever get sick so I am just confused why I got strep throat now of all times. I think in a way I am grateful I got that instead of the virus. Unless I had it and it became strep throat? No damn clue anymore.

No. 532584

>>532548
>Happy 1984

Happy Covid-1984.

Missed opportunity anon.

No. 532585

>>532388
Anon if it makes you feel better I had a sore throat and mild cough for a few days and I was freaking the fuck out. But a few days later now it's gone. I wouldn't rush to get tested unless your symptoms worsen. Remember it's also allergy and flu season

No. 532588

>>532575
>magically the cases in Tokyo went up to 40 or so
Yeah i was just reading about that yesterday. lol what a trip. And yet these same people expect to be taken seriously.

No. 532589

>>532584
They were probably tired after that hour of incoherent rambling, give them a break.

No. 532590

>>532562
You act like that's the entire video when it's not. Also your ss has nothing to do with anything - speaking of schizo rambles.

No. 532591

>>532563
Fair enough. Aren't they promoting the PCR test used to test for Covid though? The very same test that generates false positive and false negative results? There's so much faulty data everywhere, but China looks like one of the worst culprits.

No. 532592

>>532590
Yeah, the other part of the video was anti-vax conspiracies lmao

No. 532594

>>532581
>Im not coughing a lot, more like having to constantly clear my throat because it feels like I have phleme or mucus stuck in it
Oh fuck, this is exactly what I feel - like it's stuck mucus that can't be coughed out. Plus, today my throat felt dryer than it usually is.. Let's hope that it's just our anxiety mixed with common cold or some psychosomatic bullshit and nothing more.
>>532582
Thanks for the answer, get well soon, anon.

No. 532596

does anyone else feel like it literally seems impossible for life to go back to normal? I just can't imagine things ever being the same again. It feels more likely that humanity and civilisation will end before the quarantine is over

No. 532597

>>532594
Try not to consume many things that cause you to produce mucus btw, dairies, sodas, processed foods etc. Mucus helps fight off infections, but too much of it obviously can choke you or causes you to constantly need to cough, which can cause more issues. Also, this is gonna sound really gross, but get you a cup that you can spit in. I learned to do this almost anytime I was sick. When you cough spit into the cup. Clean the cup with hot soapy water every few hours. Instead of reswallowing mucus and potential infection, it helps to get some more of it out.

No. 532601

>>532597
>get you a cup that you can spit in.
good advice but if you drink bottled water/gatorade or other bottled drinks while sick use those, saves you needing to try to clean while sick!
>spit in bottle
>toss out at leisure
>grab another empty bottle
>repeat

No. 532602

>>532596
Life will not be the same, but I'm sure that there will be no collapse that will last forever, if at all. Habits around hygiene will definitely change, I suspect that a lot of computer-oriented jobs will be done remotely now, or that businesses will have it as an option for all workers. I'm sure that even the most corrupt governments will support water and electricity systems. Wuhan seemed like it would collapse and die out, now it's opening again, there are less and less sick people there. Life will find a way, anon, just give it a time.

No. 532603

>>532467
I am from Germany and this is simply wrong lmao. The people who are in the highest risk of dying simply don't report themselves and therefore don't get tested. Nevermind our system for actually getting tested is a chaotic shitshow.

No. 532604

>>532601
Thats true and is probably more hygenic in the long run.

No. 532606

I’m starting to get worried over my mom. She has had a cough for awhile. She did have difficulty breathing but she assured me today it seemed to get better, but as soon as the breathing got better her cough got worse. I know it could be things like a small cold, allergies, or other things but
I’m terrified since she would be in the high risk category

No. 532608

>>532188
Not consuming my doc but cravings are wild. Having panic/anxiety attacks and flashbacks more frequently too. Hearing about what hospital workers are going through around the world is fucking horrible. The emotional fallout from this pandemic will be catastrophic I suspect.

No. 532609

>>532313
This lmao they were out of kd in my dream but had cheetos in a huge tub

No. 532611

This whole thing is making me fucking freak. I'm terrified of my parents getting it. My parents both have essential deemed jobs but while my dad works in healthcare and has the means to keep a clean environment at work, my mom does not have that luxury. I'm sure her job is doing what it can but she has to talk to so many people and I'm so fucking paranoid about her getting sick. I want to like, force her to wear gloves and a mask to work. Like I am so fucking crazy about this. My absolute worst fear would be for her to get sick and I have to watch her deteriorate until she dies. How do I stop freaking the fuck out.

No. 532612

>>532397
Work in health care, have no health insurance, can’t afford your inhaler. What the actual fuck.

No. 532613

>>532000
>>532012
>>532017

I wrote in the previous thread how my friend returned from two weeks in Australia and quickly came down with the virus.

After two weeks she's finally starting to feel better. Most symptoms are easing off and it's really only the burning in her lungs and breathing difficulty that's the problem.

I spoke to her for three hours tonight and she told me that all her friends in Aus didn't develop the virus and she most likely picked it up in Singapore where the flight refuels.

She's been very ill with it and for a couple of nights I was up having to reassure she wasn't going to die because she felt so bad and was panicking.

Any questions, I can ask her and write here.

One thing she told me was paracetamol made her feel worse and was told to not take it. During the temperature spikes she just rode it out with lots of water and melon. Her thirst was insatiable.

Her concern now is any lasting effects on her lungs and breathing.

No. 532615

>>532548
I saw the entire video and all I gotta say is: we’re screwed.

And how is this NWO plan gonna work anyway with making sure everyone is vaccinated to enter “the new society”? Some people can’t afford nor don’t have health insurance to get tests and vaccinations. What about the undocumented, destitute and every other social outcast? Are they just going to let them struggle and die by their own means?

What about those of us who already handed their biometrics to the government? Are we expected to comply with this new system whenever it comes?

I’m not antivaxx or whatever but I sure hope there are no microchips in those vaccines.

No. 532619

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>>532561
A lot of the video covers this article predicting and exploring new draconian developments in response to Covid: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615370/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/

Easier to read for yourself and skip those portions of the vid.

No. 532623

>>532615
You talk as though the human race has already been enslaved, far from it. Yes, many appear to be in the midst of a collective psychosis, oblivious to any suggestion of common sense that doesn't fit into the global fear agenda. The first thing to do is stop yielding to fear, then we can think more rationally. A lot of people willing to accept the more outrageous measures that don't make any sense do so out of fear, too afraid to resist. There are many ways to do this. We're a very creative species.

No. 532624

>>532619
this article was like the breaking point for me

No. 532625

>>532548
58:30 "Swine Flu scare of 1976": Washington DC declares all Americans should get the vaccine to prevent a pandemic. 46 million American's get the shot, 4,000 are injured resulting in over 3 billion dollars worth of compensation for damages to their health resulting from the vaccine.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

No. 532626

>>532623
Do you have any alternative suggestions? ‘Cause I would like to hear ‘em

Yeah, this video is pretty much fear-mongering ala Alex Jones, need to trust God more

No. 532627

>>532624
What do you mean? Those predictions don't have to come true, it doesn't have to be that way. They can't even prove the Covid test results are accurate enough to warrant the crack down they're calling for. There's just too many holes in their narrative imo. People are already losing faith in the CDC >>532563 for good reason.

No. 532631

>>532627
I feel like they will come true. What holes in the narrative do you mean?

No. 532632

>>532626
It's more encouraging people to think and question. The fear mongering is what we're seeing splashed all over the msm that we have to give up all our freedom for the illusion of security.

No. 532635

>>532631
For one, look at the PCR test used to diagnose Covid: Where's the data proving it's efficacy and accuracy? There isn't any.

The test might be able to show that the virus is present in your body but to my knowledge it's incapable of establishing how much of the virus is actively replicating in your body, which is important because in order for a virus to cause symptoms, it has to be replicating in your body by the millions. There's been cases where people tested positive but were asymptomatic, so were they really carrying the virus or was it just a false positive?

The tests on the market are self validated. The FDA doesn't review manufacturer data. There's no tort liability for covid19 tests or vaccines. Think about that before you take one.

No. 532637

>>532635
I mean what do you think is the agenda though? I just can't think of any convincing reason for a conspiracy

No. 532639

>>532627
>>532632
So continue resisting then? I knew there was something shady about “social distancing” , especially when every celebrity and their momma kept regurgitating it on social media. I just couldn’t put my finger in it but now we know - divide and conquer as usual.

As for the CDC, I had a side-eye on them after what happened to one of their workers; his name was Timothy-something who was suicided not too long ago.

No. 532640

My governor just announced a stay at home requirement, punishable by misdemeanor charge if you're caught out without a really good reason.

The cherry on top? My uncle in law is guilt tripping our family to come out for needless visits and screaming that it's all a hoax because of election year, they just want to impeach trump and sweep under the rug. Blah blah. Fuck me I hope he gets covid and croaks.

No. 532641

>>531983
It looks as if anyone who has an SSN will get the $1200, even those on disability.

Apparently the only people who will be getting less or nothing are those who make more than the cutoff amount. If you filed for 2019, they'll use that. If not, they'll use your 2018.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/congress-to-send-taxpayers-1200-checks-in-the-wake-of-coronavirus.html The details (so far) are here.

No. 532643

>>532641
I wonder how that works for neets. I know a family who has several adult neet sons who have never worked and aren't on SSI or anything similar. I don't think they even have their own bank accounts but I'm not sure? I would think that means they get nothing but it's hard to tell based on the info I've been reading.

No. 532644

>>532637
Between the article >>532619 and the video >>532548 I think the take away in the simplest terms is, control. Look no further than China if you want to see real world examples.
>>532639
Timothy Cunningham. There were a lot of questions surrounding his disappearence and death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlmZY4wFSsE

No. 532646

>>532641
>It will be considered a credit
What do they mean by “credit”? I was planning to use that money to pay off my student debt so can get back to school

No. 532647

>>532646
It's suspicious wording for sure, best to hold on to it and only spend if you are desperate for essentials. I'd hate to spend it and find out we have to pay it back later.

The article makes it sound like it's so we don't have to count it as income when we file taxes next year but it's really strange.

No. 532648

>>532646
>considered a credit, so you can deduct the sum against your future taxes.
From the article.

No. 532649

File: 1585293863467.png (513.01 KB, 1375x950, Italy.png)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

>According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, the country’s mortality rate is far higher due to demographics - the nation has the second oldest population worldwide - and the manner in which hospitals record deaths.

>“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus."
>But there are other factors that may have contributed to Italy’s fatality rates, experts say. This includes a high rate of smoking and pollution - the majority of deaths have been in the northern region Lombardy region, which is notorious for poor air quality.

Hope all healthcare workers everywhere stay safe and sane out there. I don't think they're being treated as well as they should be.

No. 532650

>>532649
how can any decent news source ignore the fact that China isn't disclosing their actual numbers?

No. 532652

>>532650
I don't think everyone's caught on to the fact that you can't believe everything coming out of China, especially not from the government. Probably most of their citizens "dying from Covid" are actually dying from pollution too. Their largest cities are notorious for being awash in environmental contaminants while the govt looks to scapegoat something else.

No. 532654

Do you think the social distancing rules should be legally enforced by the state

No. 532655

>>532647
The video did say the free money will be given with strings attached, to the savings account it goes!

>>532648
I know, but will it mess up our credit if we spend it? I have very little to no credit and may have fucked it up from not paying T-Mobile and Xfinity though I haven’t given them my ssn.

>>532654
No.

No. 532658

I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all but I just cant believe that governments were so unprepared for a pandemic. It feels like they wanted this to happen.

No. 532662

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>>>/ot/532644
Was checking out her other videos until I stumbled onto one of ‘em about youtubers and Onion boi was in it

Topkek

No. 532668

>>532611
>How do I stop freaking the fuck out.
Bob Marley has a message for you

No. 532671

Watched the news yesterday and an Italian doctor said that the majority of the covid patients were old and obese people. Apparently old obese people have a harder time surviving. America is truly fucked then.

No. 532686

>>532603
If that's the case, then where are all those old dead people? A low number of infected + a high number of deaths would match your theory, yet it's exactly the opposite.

They test half a million per week, and starting April they get a new and much quicker test, that's very good in comparison to many other countries.

No. 532693

i feel like if it were affecting young people the way it's affecting old people, the us government wouldn't give a shit

No. 532695

>>532635
They aren't confirming using PCR in china they are using CT FYI. We are using these methods because we don't have a better testing method available atm.

Antibody tests would be much more accurate, we all know that and the scientific community is trying to come up with a fast and cheap antibody test for it.

No. 532698

>>532615
> I sure hope there are no microchips in those vaccines.

Is this a joke or are you legit retarded

No. 532704

boris got coronavirus anons

No. 532711

The UK PM Boris Johnson now has the Covid.

No. 532717

>>532548
The premise is basically
>government powers are going to slowly introduce and implement regulations for society to the detriment of freedom in a way that will be like–if not as worse as–9/11
Oh absolutely, this is basically an experiment to condition people to social management similar to what China did with identification profiles and facial recognition.
>and it will happen precisely in the way we describe in this video
Ehhhh, also I don't agree with the tone. There are legitimate reasons to be afraid of this virus and even more afraid of the corrupt and incompetent way governments will handle this and use it to establish order. This is how we get the microchip and antivaxxer conspiritards hijacking this kind of message because they think things will be that overt.

No. 532718

>>532711
I looked up his age because I honestly thought he was 60+, but was surprised to learn that he's only 55. So it's probably not going to affect him

No. 532720

>>532718
I just did the exact same thing and feel like I'm having some kind of Mandela effect because I could have sworn he was a lot older

No. 532721

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No. 532723

>>532720
Nah Boris and David Cameron were in uni together, they are actually quite close in age I think.

No. 532725

>>532721
oh nein

No. 532729

>>532721
UGH!
He is a tough guy, hopefully he can make it.

No. 532739

>>532718
eh, in countries like austria they consider 50+ year olds to be in the risk groups. so here's hoping….

No. 532741

>>532686
>low number of infected + a high number of deaths would match your theory
How so? Why would the infected rate be low just because they don't care about cause of death for non-diagnosed people?
Also pls post the source for the half a million tests so I can laugh.

No. 532742

>>532729
I hope so too. He's fitter than many other men his age, plus as a singer his breathing is good, but on the other hand bands usually also drink and party a lot…

No. 532752

>>532741
>Also pls post the source for the half a million tests so I can laugh.
Easy to find (in german and in english), for example https://www.thelocal.de/20200326/germany-ramps-up-coronavirus-tests-to-500000-a-week
>Christian Drosten, a Berlin-based senior virologist, said that Germany was carrying out an “extremely high number" of coronavirus tests, which meant experts were aware of more cases, including milder ones.
>Speaking at the launch of a government-backed new network for the treatment and research of COVID-19 which is being set up in Berlin, Drosten estimated that around 500,000 coronavirus tests were being carried out each week in Germany.
>"The reason why Germany has so few deaths compared to the number of infected people can be explained by the fact that we carry out an extremely large number of laboratory diagnostic tests," said Christian Drosten, who heads the Institute of Virology at Berlin's Charite University Hospital.
Why do you think this is funny…?

No. 532754

>>531212
Uk health minister has it

No. 532772

>>531212
matt hancock now has covid ( UK health Minister)

No. 532778

>>532752
>Christian Drosten
>Drosten estimated that around 500,000 coronavirus tests
>Drosten estimated
Toppest of keks, I fucking knew it the second you mentioned that number. Dear Mr. Drosten was wrong with almost every single statement he made starting in january. He also said germans shouldn't worry about corona since it only affects people from wuhan, then said they shouldn't worry because it's just like the flu, then said only travelers from that ship are affected and won't be a problem because they are "home quarantined" and so many more poorly aged statements, all while his collegues made snide remarks about what a retard he is. Give me a few hours and I'll go find some screens, he's genuinely funny.

No. 532783

>>532778
>Give me a few hours and I'll go find some screens, he's genuinely funny.
Don't bother, I don't care.
If you want be so pessimistic and believe that you know better than virologists and that we're doomed anyway, then you do you.

No. 532789

>>532783
There's being optimistic and then there's being delusional and oblivious to obvious manipulation. And yes, I literally made more correct guesses than this glorified press figure, and so did any other virologist. I understand that the situation is very scary but buying into "everything will be fine, stop thinking" slogans and ignoring reality is not the way. There has got to be a middle ground.

No. 532792

>>532778I hope sanctions are given to every country pulling shit right now, including Germany - AGAIN, for confiscating medical equiptment for themselves and playing bullshit that they can't ship it out due to lockdown laws. China needs sanctions because this started from their markets, Germany needs sanctions for stealing, any country caught stealing needs some sanctions, the US, I'm shocked, hasn't started a lawsuit against the US Gov. just as a group of American lawyers are setting up to sue to Chinese government.

Fuck. The whole globe is garbage right now practically because governments would rather make sure they stay in power somehow than help their people. Governers, mayors.. Local people are pleading, but big government won't help.

Many countries are botching numbers to hide actual infections like Japan because they were so worried about their precious Olympics. Sanctions on any country hiding real infection numbers and if it IS in the country's control to give more medical care and they run out, I get it, but if they purposely give people nothing [like drump because "you have to treat us nice too"] you should go to straight fucking jail. Limiting a stockpile of supplies when people need it from the government and they say "Well, you were mean about it" and given them 10% of what they actually need and knowingly killing people because of this should be a war crime.

I'm just really stressed right now. I know I went on a tangent. I'm sorry.

No. 532815

>>531212
Another politician down

No. 532828

I'm so sad I can't spend Easter with my grandparents this year because of the virus. They're over the age of 80 and both are immunocompromised, but my grandma won't accept that my parents want to go shopping for them so she's unnecessarily exposing herself to the virus. I'm so scared for them, but there's nothing I can do except avoid them until May earliest and it makes me so sad

No. 532830

So, last night was pretty rough in regards to the feeling of mucus in my chest, and having to constantly attempt to clear my throat and cough, which did nothing until i was finally able to fall asleep. Once I woke up, the mucus was cleared up a bit but the feeling in my chest is much more intense. Just a hard pressure, like a small animal is sitting on it. Its very very tight.

No. 532837

is anyone else very emotionally drained from the mental oscillation between "we're gonna be okay, be normal" to full-blown panic?

it's so hard to focus on WFH and other menial things when we're being bombarded with news that makes it seem like the end is nigh. i live in one of the epicenters of the pandemic, and i literally don't know what the appropriate way to function is anymore. i'm scared to go outside but i invariably have to so i can do things like get groceries; when i do go out, i see plenty of people walking around in close-contact without masks or gloves, and then i also see people panic-buying and decked-out in medical gear. i feel paranoid and fearful, but i'm supposed to write emails and complete work as if i'm not being surrounded by news about the rising death toll and the lack of preparedness on all fronts. i can't even disconnect from it by unplugging from media, because i have a family member working in healthcare who's on the frontline of battling this shitshow everyday. i desperately want this to blow over as quick as possible so i don't have to pretend that everything's normal when in actuality i'm terrified for my own and my loved one' health everyday.

No. 532842

>>532718
A 16 year old died in France. She had no previous illnesses, no one is truly safe.

No. 532848

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>>532718
he's fat though and he always looks like an overheated, ruddy-faced alcoholic. he just generally doesn't look healthy, so i don't think he'll tolerate corona very well. shit, corbyn looks healthier

No. 532850

>>532842
I read just now it wasn't corona it was a heart attack, I can't fucking keep track of any of this shit anymore

No. 532855

>>532778
could you link me some of those statements?
when i look i just get stuff such as: -drosten said wolfgang wodarg is wrong because…..

ta.

No. 532872

>>532837
I legit feel everything you are feeling, and feel like the world is just crashing down around me. And theres no one who can help me.

No. 532875

As a burger I feel that this pandemic is being used as a convenient purge of anyone deemed undesirable to the ruling class, namely the poor and elderly. I don't mean this in a schizo/tinfoil way either; our government seems legitimately giddy about the prospect of massive death so long as it bumps the stock market.

No. 532880

>>532875
yep. i'm sure they're thrilled at the prospect of being able to be able to get a few more years out of social security with the elderly passing so they can delay the conversation about lifting the payroll tax cap. they're begging for their voter base to die though. hope it backfires in their faces.

No. 532882

my country is going on lockdown tomorrow, but i got a message about an hour ago that i have to go to the post office to pick something up tomorrow. its like 10 minutes from my house. will i be arrested if i go outside now??

No. 532884

>>532792

>>532778

LOL, did I miss something on here? You want Germany to be sanctioned because it´s better prepared to deal with this than just about any other western country? So who is supposed to sanction Germany? Other countries had plenty of time to invest into their hospitals and healthcare systems, too, you know. I have no idea HOW bad this is going to get, obviously, because unlike 50% of the people posting here I am not a virologist or doctor, but I know that I can certainly be happy that I am lucky enough to be in Germany should I become ill. Because even though the people in charge fucked up badly by not closing our boarders and enforcing no contact rules and the such much earlier, and our healthcare system by far isn´t what it used to be, this is still one of the best places in the world to become ill with anything. Don´t hate germany for the things that it does right.

No. 532890

>>532882
Not sure about where you are, but I think post office stuff is considered essential business.

No. 532897

>>532884
i'm in finland and even though our government botched things i am glad to be here, since our government has for years hoarded medical stuff and other things in case for a crisis. today they opened those emergency medical hoards first time ever, some people are complaining that we had to open them at all that we should have had enough supplies so that we didn't have to use the emergency storages, i kinda get where they are coming from but goddamit if those emergency hoards aren't especially for situations like this? from what i have understood, many countries don't have a system like this and it baffles me. i don't want to blame anyone for being surprised by this situation, we were too but still governments should have good plans for emergencies like this. it's stupidity to not plan ahead.

No. 532901

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No. 532916

>>532901
Yay America x China best friends forever!

No. 532917

>>532901
What a little bitch.

No. 532919

>>532901

so it´s not the "chinese virus" anymore now? LOL

No. 532932

Anyone else have dry and cracked, bleeding hands since this pandemic started? I am washing my hands so much, lotion is barely helping anymore. Everytime I touch someting that I think may have been contaminated I wash my hands. Twice. Once with liquid soap to wash off the virus, and then with bar soap to wash off any remaining residue from the liquid soap. And there are so many surfaces that could be contaminated! Everytime I feed my cat and touch a can of cat food, make myself some coffee and pour some milk into it, make dinner or breakfast and automatically have to touch something that I got from the store, get the mail, and so on and on and on, i have to wash my hands afterwards. I´m going fucking crazy!! I hate this fucking virus!!!!

No. 532936

>>532932
Maybe don’t wash your hands twice. Sounds like you’re over doing it anon, I’m sorry it’s causing you to be so unnerved. Try using a very thick hand wax instead of lotion. My hands get very dry due to working in healthcare and washing, I’m used to it. Burt’s bees has some really good stuff.

No. 532937

>>532932
You gotta relax, open wounds/bleeding hands is a great opening for any illness to get inside of your body. Do you leave the house much? You don't need to be washing them after every instance of touching something, you're doing yourself more damage

No. 532941

>>532932
Did you not wash your hands a lot before this? I can't stand my hands not feeling "clean", so I've always washed a lot. And I wouldn't say I moisturize more than average. You might be overdoing it.

No. 532942

>>532932
You might be developing a compulsive disorder.

If you're at home, you only need to wash your hands once you get home. After that, you're fine. Unless you just today bought your coffee or milk, there is incredibly little chance that you're gonna catch Corona from it.

This is my third week of voluntary isolation. I just make sure not to touch my face while in the grocery store and then I go home and wash my hands. I also change sweaters but that's just a psychological thing rather than a safety thing.

No. 532948

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>covid cases in america top 100,000
and this is WITH shitty testing im genuinely scared. 20 with a good immune system but my mom got tested for it because she's been coughing a lot recently and her job wont let them work from home. If she has it then both my parents are fucked. Genuinely worried but is anyone else thinking of leaving America as soon as they're able to? I don't see things getting any better here once we've reached the peak of this virus, it's like watching a country fall apart in real time

No. 532950

my city is on shelter in place right now and my company just did mass layoffs. I’m not panicking badly, but I’m a little scared. the only people I’ve seen recently are my immediate family and they have all been staying indoors too/ minimal contact with the public and other people so I dunno how reasonably frightened I should be of getting sick…

I miss my friends so much though. I was already going through kind of a depressive episode right before this happened and they were kinda getting me through it. Sleeping alone sucks I wish I had someone to snuggle tbh. Sage for venting. Cases in my state are rising super fast too.

No. 532966

>>532948
Sorry to hear this anon. America is fucked right now, I can only imagine how stressful the situation is over there. I wish you and your family the best.

No. 532974

>>532966
thanks anon. im actually baffled at how this whole thing is being handled here, especially when trump wants to open everything back up in a few weeks. At this point I've just accepted the fact that i'll catch it and someone i know is going to die. kind of OT but has anyone else felt pretty depressed over this whole thing. it seems like other countries will be okay after this but i feel like i have to prepare for the shitshow america will be for the rest of this year

No. 532975

>>532974
You're not alone. I laid in my bed and had a two hour sobbing panic attack. I dont know how to feel. It feels so hopeless.

No. 532979

>>532974

No countries will be ok after this. Absolutely none.

We haven see the worst of it yet. Brace yourselves for impact. Do not go out under any circumstances unless absolutely fucking necessary. When you do, wear your masks and gloves and bring your rubbing alcohol bottle. Don't eat/drink anything outside. Wash your food package. Have a set of clothes only for the outside that you immediately wash once inside.

Tell your loved ones you love them. I'm not kidding. Do it.

No. 532980

>>532979
this is a shitty post jesus christ anon

No. 532981

I feel like people are coming into this thread just because they get off on preying on people who are already scared. If you're genuinely feeling depressed and too overwhelmed I would hide this thread just for your own mental health

No. 532982

>>532980
Fuck off.

No. 532983

>>532982
You sound like you belong on fucking 4chan tbh. That post was uncalled for when anons are talking about having panic attacks.

No. 532984

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anons, the 21 year old girl died of a cardiac arrest and never tested positive for the virus. the 18 year old who died had coronavirus but died of something unrelated

media is playing stupid games here

No. 532985

>>532981
Agreed.

No. 532986

>>532981
If you're still not scared now then you do not understand what situation you are in. I don't blame you, I was oblivious to the danger too.
Wait until you start seeing dead piling up in your local hospital. Once this is done, come back and tell us how not a big deal it all is.

No. 532987

>>532986
Literally no one is saying its not a big deal. Everyone is scared. You're literally trying to antagonize people and fearmonger in a situation that people are already having a hard time dealing with.

No. 532988

>>532983
They absolutely should panic, italy.

No. 532989

>>532983
No 8dea what 4chan is and font cate. Again, fuck off.

No. 532991

>>532989
Yeah sure you dont. I believe you anon.

No. 532992

>>532979
jesus man we know the severity of the situation no need to add to the fire. South Korea and Japan are already doing better and Italy has finally reached its peak so lets not get too crazy

No. 532993

>>532989
fuck off retard

No. 532994

>>532992
Just ignore them. Its obviously one of the trolls that come here and make completely nonsensical rambling blogposts for attention then get upset when people call them out, then come back like clockwork to make more stupid sperg posts to try to rile people up again.

No. 532995

>>532986
I didn't say there's nothing to be scared of nor that it's not a big deal, but it will only benefit people to try and not panic as fear will only lower your immunity. The reality is for non vulnerable groups the death rate is still low, regardless of media fear mongering, and no one can accurately predict what the longterm outcome will be, catastophising while we can't do anything to change it either way, before it's even happened is useless

No. 532997

>>532848
You know they'll pull someone else off their ventilator so they can hook BoJo onto it just because.

The secret service will also do the same for Trump. We like to laugh at those fools, but some else will die so they can try and save those "heads of state"

Sad thing all around

No. 533004

>>532721
Aw I love Rammstein. Hope he gets well soon.

No. 533005

>>532997
This is how I feel as like a metaphor for CEOs staying rich while working class are all suffering and scared

No. 533007

>>532997
The heads of state are the most useless too. They can't even keep our health workers outfitted in the gear they need, shortages everywhere. It's up to local communities to take charge imo.

No. 533009

>>532830
Get some Vicks vapor rub, put it on your chest. Helps with congestion. A little goes a long way.
>>532979
Anon this sounds like top tier panic, please calm down. All anyone can do is take reasonable precautions. Letting emotion overtake reason is counterproductive.

No. 533012

>>532778
>>532789
I get why there are quite some people who have a raging hate boner for anyone who gets hyped by the media.
but that dude (yes he made some uncorrect assumptions but literally everyone did) is just a virologist after all, not a master of economy and prophet of whatever will happen in the future.
It is absolutely stupid how he gets overhyped by the thirsty media and is being presented as a spokesperson or authority for terms he isn‘t an expert though, but imo thats nothing that guy has a lot of control over since he‘s just making a fucking podcast where he nerds on about viruses or a scientific interview here and there.
If you plain believe anything as solid facts which comes from someone who is being presented as an ‚authority’ or whatever, even if that person isn’t even qualified of making assumptions for certain topics, you’re a fucking moron and should know better in the age of information we live in.
I think the mediafags should just stop trying to make him a publicity figure and ‘expert‘ on terms he is definately not of (and admits so) since its misleading and counterproductive but really that‘s it.
they shouldn‘t do that with anyone but they fucking live from this shit

No. 533019

i don't know why but most of the time i'm not stressed at all? i have had couple of anxiety attacks over this but then it goes away.

i feel like i should be afraid and more anxious about this, but i just aren't. maybe it's because i have beeen a severe germphobic for so many years that obsessing over my hygiene and not touching my face and all the rules are already my normal. i even dropped out of school when i was younger because of my phobia.

so yeah. i am worried but most of the time i'm just… neutral.

No. 533020

Do you get dressed for the day still even during the lockdown?

No. 533021

>>532671
Yep. I've noticed how the people dying in the US are of younger age than in other countries, like the cases in asian countries were the people dying are in their 70s and 80s, while in the US there are cases with people i ntheir 30s and 40s. Americans eat like shit and so many are obese, its not really surprising that they have such high numbers and will most definitely get worse.

No. 533022

>>533021

Im by no means a doctor, but Im kind of thinking the legality of weed. the abuse of other smoked drugs and our nation's overall problems with electronic cigarettes. We've had to ban flavored ones because kids were doing a catridge which added up to like 3 boxes, not cartons, of some brands.

The people who say they are healthy, I want to know if they have smoked weed, cigarettes, or any other substances in the US, because that would make complete sense as to why there are so many young deaths. I mean shit, we have people smoking bathsalts..

No. 533025

>>533022
Yeah , even their "healthy" food is riddled with bad shit. People say they are healthy but if they eat trash food every day, they can be having super high cholesterol and never know about it until they die from a heart attack at 25

No. 533026

im mostly worried about my education and the anxiety is killing me. im already over the virus.

No. 533027

>>533022
don't chinese people smoke a lot though?

No. 533034

>>533025
it's not even the food it's simply how fat you are. there was a study (it's on youtube i think) in which someone only ate mcdonalds for a few weeks (or months i don't remember) but counted his calories so he was in a deficit. guess what? he not only lost weight but his cholesterol lowered and overall blood tests showed better results. all because his weight was in a healthy range now

there's literally no excuse for fatasses

No. 533037

My neighbor has been caught outside, severely coughing, and is now being stopped by the police in front of his house??? Apparently they want to take him with them or something. Idk what's happening but I keep hearing him scream while the cops are trying to reason with him without coming too close

No. 533039

>>533020
Not really but I did today and I felt a bit better.

No. 533041

>>533037
holy shit anon what country do you live in? film it and don't let the police see you filming. I'm serious

No. 533042

>>533037
An ambulance came to check if he has any symptoms. Welp, this happens only when ive calmed down

No. 533043

I have my period and I'm taking advil as normal. I have no other symptoms and the cases of advil hurting people was people who were already very sick. treat your cramps anon, don't make yourself more miserable right now for no reason.

No. 533050

>>533041
I took a pic when the ambulance came but i can't show it in fear of doxxing myself, sorry. It's also illegal to film cops where I live.

No. 533060

>>532901
>We are working closely together
Oh good, does that mean he's taking lessons from Xi about how to be a psychotic tyrant? Let's pretend Xi cares about his own people while he "disappears" and "re-educates" them.

No. 533061

>>533043
in what world does advil actually do anything for cramps? i thought it was just a meme that men and women with no cramps shill to make women with cramps shut up

No. 533062

>>533021
Also the healthcare system is shit. A lot of good doctors/nurses, but the system itself is trash, a lot of people in the field agree with that.

No. 533064

>>533037
>>533050
What you've described happens in China.

No. 533072

>>533050
sounds fake. 2/10 bait

No. 533073

>>532884
I've heard the mortality rate in Germany is one of the lowest. I don't know what the ratio of young to old is there, but I agree with articles like this >>532649 that point out most of the deaths in Italy are among the elderly, who also happen to be overrepresented in the population. We could ask if Italy's healthcare system isn't as well equipped as Germany's, but I think it's more likely the higher mortality there is due to a larger ratio of elderly (more vulnerable) in the population.

No. 533074

>>533064
>>533072

Somehow video's made it out of China showing cops hauling people kicking and screaming into what looks like windowless paddy wagons, the premise of course being they were citizens suspected of having Covid, not like the govt wasn't doing that before.

No. 533081

>>533064
I'm not in China thank god lmao
>>533072
I expected this kind of reaction. I would have showed a pic if I didn't live with other people. Believe what you want tho
>>533074
What happened in my neighborhood wasn't that extreme. The guy went into the ambulance willingly and it left while the cops stayed hanging out for a while near our houses. For some reason, they only took him and not the other adults in his house??

No. 533084

>>533074
Yes I know it happened in China, dummy. I doubt someone from Wuhan would be shitposting on lolcow about corona at the moment however

No. 533090

>>533037
You in the UK by any chance? Cops near our house have been incredibly strict. Can’t leave unless we can prove we’re buying food or toiletries. I’m not a citizen (I know, I should have left when I could) but I’m stuck here. My boyfriend went to get food yesterday and it took two hours to get into the store because of the “2 people per shop” rule + got stopped numerous times by the police asking where he was going

No. 533093

>>533090
How can you prove it? That sounds scary honestly

No. 533101

>>533043
I actually made it through this cycle with no cramp meds. Im very proud of myself although the first two days were horrid.

No. 533106

>>533093
Not gonna dox myself lol but you can look up uk virus coverage rn. I’m in scotland

No. 533108

>>533106
oh no sorry! I meant how can you prove to the cops that you're just going out to buy food?

No. 533109

>>533090
I was hoping to buy weed tomorrow. Last two days dealers have got busted. I'm shitting myself now lol

No. 533113

Omg i took a mucinex pill and holy shit it was huge. So now, I dont feel phlegm in my throat, I feel a huge pill lmao.

No. 533131

My dad has covid so me and my mum probably have had or have it. He's a doctor so it was kind of inevitable. He's 60 and so far has mild symptoms just a slight temperature and cough, and a groggy feeling which he says is significantly less bad than a normal flu. I have no symptoms apart from that feeling people described of there being something in your throat but I also get bad allergies so it could be that, will update if anything significant changes

No. 533133

>>533131
Sorry anon. Wishing a quick recovery for you and your parents.

No. 533134

>>533113
the worst is when they get stuck on the way down
they do help, thankfully, so it's worth the grossness

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>>532721
official site says the he was hospitalized but doesn't have the coronavirus.

No. 533162

>>533073

Both is true: The age of the infected and the overall population in Italy is older, AND Germany has a much better health care system than Italy. Germany has fucked up on many many things during the last couple of decades, and our healthcare system used to be much better, but even now, after it was cut and stripped down in so many ways, it is still one of the best in the entire world.

No. 533169

>>533162
The way I see it Germany is nothing to write home about in terms of how it treats illness at large, but when it comes to reanimation and bringing you back here from the other side they're the best system period.

No. 533172

>>532995
You have been crying on every single thread so far, if it scares even more when anons talk about the real numbers, then just hide the thread.

No. 533176

>>533169

True enough, Germanys health care system could be doing better. But that doesn´t change the fact that most other countries are even worse.

My family lived in Canada, which, for some inexplicable reason, is so proud of it´s healthcare system, for 9 years and the reason we moved pack to Germany was indeed the healthcare. Ater that experience, I certainly know to appreciate what I got here.

No. 533177

>>533174
Interesting. Well I'm from Russia and moved here as a child so understandibly I'm very thankful for the healthcare I get here and how relatively cheap it is, though admittedly in Russia the medical progress and the whole science is more developed. At least that's what it seems like to me.

No. 533178

>>532641

That's good and all, but what if you don't file taxes due to being below the poverty line? Usually I fill out a FAFSA, but I'm graduating this year.

No. 533180

>>533177

Yes, I agree, Russia is super advanced and has always had amazing scientists. If I needed some very special surgery or treatment and had enough money, I would consider going to Russia for many things.

No. 533181

>>533162
our healthcare system isn't shit. shut the fuck up crucca

No. 533182

>>533172

This is such a weird take to see as a "vulnerable group" person. Not everyone who takes hygiene and health seriously does so because of media fear-mongering. A lot of people either a.) don't like being in pain, b.) have empathy for the people they would spread it to if they were irresponsible, or c.) both. "Fear will only lower your immunity" actually sounds very panicky, kek.

No. 533183

>>533181
My mum broke her wrist on Elba and they did nothing at all about it they just shouted at her.

No. 533186

>>533183
and if you don't test people after their death you can claim a number of other causes except the main one. also stop polluting our beaches while we're here

No. 533188

>>533181

Yes, honey, that is why we have started to help you guys by treating your landsmen over here… And those are people from northern Italy which isn´t even THAT bad. Since you seem to be Italian, I don´t even need to tell you what the south looks like. Thank God it´s the north that´s affected, it would be even more of a disaster in the south.

No. 533189

>>533186

LOL, her mom polluted YOUR beach?

No. 533190

>>533162
>it is still one of the best in the entire world.
Depends on how low the bar is. The hospital my friend is working at is now changing her entire unit to be fit for intensive care and quarantine, while degrading the nurses to short-time work. The nurses have to take a one(1) day crash-curse to be able to handle ventilators, keeping in mind that you usually have to take an extra apprenticeship to be able to work as a intensive care unit nurse that takes 2-3 years.
My grand-mother and mother have been working as nurses all their life and I have had the pleasure to have some limited experience too, so let me tell you that they ALWAYS have been understaffed. That has been a massive problem for my mother and is the most severe right now, even years before corona.

No. 533191

>>533189
well she generalized over a general system due to an incident, didn't she? Why can't I do the same?

No. 533192

italians are so fucking pissed all the time it's like they have non stop manlet rage

No. 533194

>>533192
That's why they're so great.

No. 533195

>>533190

It does not matter "how low the bar is" if the other bars are even lower.

No. 533197

>>533195
If you claim it's the best of the world, then it does matter.

No. 533198

>>533197

No, it doesn´t. Because no matter how low the bar in Germany may be, as long as the bar is lower elsewhere, which it is, the bar is Germany will still be higher. A system can suck all it wants, it will still be the best if the other are even worse. Also, I said it´s one of the best in the world.

No. 533201

>>533198
>it doesn't matter if a system is shitty if there's an even shittier system out there
Anon I fully understand that you are thankful for having your life saved but you can still appreciate it without desperately glorifying it.

No. 533202

My campus has been wiped clean of people due to mandatory leave save a few international students that can't currently return to their home country, and I feel horrible as all I've been thinking about during this isolation is how I can finally kill myself. No one would find me for quite a while and no one would even notice I'm gone due to no one wanting to check up on people in the campus apartments.

No. 533203

>>533191

Because it would be more appropriate if you, rather than bitching at tourists that bring your country a huge fraction of it´s overall income, would express your ecological concerns by instead asking organized crime to stop burying toxic waste all over the place. Just a thought.

No. 533205

>>533203
I can do both though.

No. 533207

>>533201

I kind of missed the part where I glorified anything. Telling the truth that something is better than something else is not automatically glorifying it. I know people are notoriously unhappy with absolutely everything and that it is super trendy to bitch about all sorts of shit, but some things just aren´t THAT bad and people would do themselves a favor by appreciating something for a change. Am I happy with our healthcare system? No, not fully. I remember times when it was a different, better one. I actually remember very well the times so long ago when we didn´t even have healthcare cards yet. Those were times when our healthcare system was amazing, and those times are long over. But you know what? Things have gone downhill everywhere. Looking at other countries, we DO have one of the best systems, and saying that is no glorifying anything, it´s simply telling the truth. Maybe it´ll all change after this current disaster, but for now, that´s how it is. But hey, if you know something that I don´t know, tell me where you would most like to become ill when you are just a regular person with an unspectacular income.

No. 533218

My favorite art supply dealer says that they had to shut down all their stores but will continue to fill online orders. A ray of light in the darkness of this crisis.

No. 533221

>>533207
germanon, the ' is over the # on your keyboard

No. 533224

>>533221

Mine unfortunately doesn´t - My regular keyboard is currently out of order and I am using this very small, old keyboard that is for children and, for whatever stupid reason, doesn´t have all the signs. It does, however, have a very nice mint green color and pictures of little people playing sports on it.

No. 533226

>>533224
omg thats adorable and aesthetic as hell

No. 533227

>>533226

LOL I like it, too. I actually think will keep it as my normal keyboard.

No. 533231

>>533221
>germanon
At first I thought you were replying to a coofer. But you meant anon from Germany, not anon with germs, lol

No. 533234

So clothing stores are really doubling down on the sales. Am I an idiot for ordering clothes right now (I'm a burger)?

No. 533243

>>533234
I mean, if they're good deals on things you need or were planning to buy already, might as well take advantage of the sales. Don't be an idiot and blow hundreds of dollars on things you don't need just because they're on sale, though.

No. 533244

>>533202
Please don't do it anon. You will hurt the people who care about you (I promise there are people who do) and the person who would potentially find you would be traumatized for life.

Don't let the drama over this virus get to you. Stay safe and look forward to later in the year when things will be back to normal.

No. 533247

>>533244
Aside, I think the coverage of this virus and the "advice" given pays no respect to people with mental illness. Interesting to live through years of eggshell walking online and then have mainstream media and those same "TW/CW" demanding people posting indulgent fearmongering nonsense. There are better ways to phrase things - I muted several terms (quarantine, covid) etc online quite soon due to the messages I was seeing being so carelessly and indulgently phrased.

However most artists and photogs I follow have been very gentle with their posts. Avoid the news and spend as much time as you can every day doing cute/fun things you enjoy. Study doesn't matter right now since concessions will be made. Make every day as pleasant as possible.

No. 533249

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So germany brought this morning critical patients from Bergmo, Italy to the federal state NRW as a sign of solidarity. As a germanfag who lives in NRW, which is the most affected, I kind of not feeling this deal at all. They already brought some from france here too. I don#t understand. Bring some medical support there and do not bring MORE infected people here into that already overloaded health system.

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/luftwaffe-fliegt-an-covid-19-erkrankte-italiener-nach-deutschland-a-e2d6e337-f33c-40a6-8c16-8407277d9087

No. 533250

>>533234

I´d do it. Chances are, after all, that you will survive this crisis and then you will need something to wear. I´m not really one to buy clothes, as I get all second hand or army surplus shit, but I am going to be buying art supplys, pet supplys and othr stuff that i am interested in. And why not? Anything that makes on ehappy makes the crisis easier to pass. So go ahead and buy some stuff if it makes you feel good, and remember, it is helping your country´s economy, too, if people are still buying things other than toilet paper.

No. 533253

My sister (in her late 20s) is morbidly obese with no other health issues (no diabetes, blood pressure and cholesterol are always fine when she gets them checked), how screwed do you think she is if she gets this? She doesn't seem worried about it so she isn't doing anything to try to change her diet or lose weight

No. 533254

>>532932
I'm a frequent hand-washer, just try and cut down on washing once you're in your house. You only really need to wash your hands before you eat or if you're sticking your hands in your mouth or on your face (applying makeup for example) if you are self-isolating right now. If you're going out, then wash hands wnd face when you get home and change outerwear (I did this before covid since outside is dirty)

If you've already got your supplies, after a few days any viral or bacteria on the suface will die off, so you don't need to wash after touching items. A good thing to remember is the body deals with a dose of bacteria etc every day of your life, from handled objects, toilet etc, and you are fine. We can handle a good amount of germs ok, and this virus can't live without a live host.
So the main thing is avoiding live hosts aka people who could pass it to you.

No. 533255

situation is getting worse here in the UK, we are basically following Italy's curve, just a few days behind.

my sister and I (we flat share) are also running out of food. she is a high risk person. have checked supermarket websites and none of them have any delivery slots available. worse comes to worse i may have to go out and get it myself.

good luck fellow ukanons

No. 533258

>>533247
This is because the trigger warning and eggshell walking are products of an individualistic culture.

Overcoming the current threat to survival requires a collectivist culture. Selfish acts (like licking a row of deodorant in a store, or partying on a spring break instead of quarantining) are shamed.

Collectivist culture resents suicide victims for engaging in such a selfish act. Very different from how an individualistic culture approaches the same issue.

Honestly, it's been amazing to witness just how fast entire nations and peoples have switched cultural approaches. I thought it was impossible to happen like that. Do you understand what that means? We can turn racism and sexism and capitalism off with a flip of a switch. We can change any behaviour globally with a flip of a switch. Any. In a matter of days.

No. 533260

>>533255
If it helps I've been to a few shops and the worst is that sometimes there are long wait lines, but most people are adhering to the keep apart guidelines, heck we've been able to find good meat, pasta, cake making stuff.

No. 533265

>>533258
A propos that last paragraph:
Maybe it's not such a big deal to you millenials, but I'm an oldfag and know this wouldn't be possible just 20 yrs ago. It was a far slower and more fragmented world.

No. 533268

>>533249

Had to delete my original post and edit and post ir again - my typing is atrocious because my cat continues to attack me.

Oh, I hope the agressive Italian anon from earlier is going to read this.

I see what you are saying, and I do agree. Any week now the number of infections here is expected to become so high that our hospitals will reach reach the point of being beyond overcrowded. Not a good time to bring in more people. On the other hand, if I were in Italy right now and infected with Corona, I would want to receive help and if that meant going to Germany, I would want that, too. I am however left to wonder, whether Italy, or any other European nation, would have helped us in a similar manner if the tables were turned. Also, what is going to happen if Germany runs out of hospitals beds while there are still foreigeners being treated here. right now we still have enough beds, but that can change, and nobody has said anything how long those people are going to be here. Are Germans going to be left without proper treatment because beds and resources are taken up by foreigners? Of course the German government would assure us that that would not be the case, but what the hell are they going to do? They are obiovusly not going to kill any foreigners by kicking them out of the ICU in order to make room for Germans. So what´s the plan? What happens if the ICU beds and resources are needed for Germans while the non-Germans are still here and in need intensive care? I see a lof of problems with this.

I always like to compare a country to a family. If you can make sure that there is always enough food for your own kids, then you can think about helping out the neighbours. But if you do not put your own children first, and you give the neighbour money, just to find out that you miscalculated and now your own children will have to go without dinner for the rest of the month, then you are a shitty parent. And that is exactly how it is when it comes to a country.

No. 533269

>>533265

It used to be a much better world. I am kinda old, too, and other than the internet, which has brought and continues to bring us soooo much knowledge and fun straight into our homes, the new world and it´s inventions and new way of life suck. Even the spread of this stupid virus is a result of this world being such a globalized mess.

No. 533272

First time seeing an orderly queue to even get inside a store today.

Then saw someone filling a whole trolley with lidl own brand cola and ordering her husband to grab another trolley.. that's bound to boost the immune system!

No. 533274

>>533272

Maybe it can boost the immune system if they add a bit of fibre by throwing in some toilet paper balls.

No. 533276

>>533274
I swear the only items selling out in my local store are the absolute worst types of junk food, that's what people are choosing to stockpile

No. 533297

>>533268
Are you still going on about this? EU countries are meant to help each other. I'm sure Germany would have been helped if the virus spread more widely, quickly and among older people there too. Or is the EU only good for putting Southern Europe countries in debt, mhm? Plus I'm sure German citizens will be prioritized by one of the best healthcare system of the world.
I wouldn't have started shit if the original anon hadn't spoken out of ignorance without knowing the context, or if knowing it, with malice. You don't know what it's like to hear that everyday in your country almost 1000 people died, and I hope you never know it. But I can't stand people who, seeing others in a difficult situation, can't help but consider smugly how they kind of deserved it.

No. 533303

>>533162
Isn't Germany just applying the China method of not testing postmortem?

No. 533307

This virus has a "secondary transmission rate number" between 2 e 3. In some places in Lombardy the number reached as high as 4.
A study was taken using data samples between February 21 and March 8. The result was a transmission rate of 4, meaning that a single person could infect four others at a time.
In order for a virus to stop replicating in people and die out, the transmission rate needs to go down to 1 and below, possibly as little as zero.
In order for this to happen, quarantine and containment measures have to be applied at least until the end of May.

No. 533310

>>533297

>>…seeing others in a difficult situation, can't help but consider smugly how they kind of deserved it.<<

Sounds kinda like paranoia, and that makes me unwilling to talk to you. It gives my emotionally unstable girlfriend vibes.

>>533303

No, Germany is applying the method of testing more living people than any other country, other than south korea maybe, a country in which the death toll was also noteably low when considering the number of infections.

Testing postmortem and calling anyone a covid 19 victim, regardless of their cause of death just as long as they have been infected, does not seem like the best idea.

No. 533311

Is anyone not been able to sleep?

I’ve been trying to readjust my sleep schedule because I signed up for this overnight warehouse gig (because I can’t work at my regular job because of the lockdown) but it’s been almost impossible. Talking a ton of melatonin and Valium and I still only got like 4 hours of sleep. Idk if it’s because of being quarantined and not getting much, if any, psychical activity (plus being stuck with my family, which I have a ton of issues with) or the state of the world. Before this, I didn’t have much of of problem with sleeping but now it’s gotten really bad. Has other anons dealt with this?

No. 533312

>>533234
Not at all. I would do it if I had money.

No. 533314


>i have noticed that small shops have less people, >>533310


nta that's fucking embarrassing, stop comparing strangers online to your idiotic girlfriend. next time diagnose that anon with narcissist personality disorder lmaoo

No. 533316

>>533314
fuck meant to quote this lol
>It gives my emotionally unstable girlfriend vibes.

No. 533318

>>533311
Yeah, I’ve had a couple days where I’ve been awake until 1-2am and I normally go to bed by midnight. One night I had a panic attack and that made it really hard to fall asleep because I couldn’t stop thinking about random things.

I told myself that I should probably stop reading so many news articles because they’re giving me a lot of anxiety, and then I also work at a pharmacy so that makes me worried too.

No. 533319

>>533310
Meh, sorry my vibes are off, kinda happens with an ongoing healthcrisis.

No. 533323

>>533314

What? LOL, I don´t have girlfriend though.

>>533319

That´s alright. Just please don´t think that I think that Italy, or any other country is deserving of what is happening right now because I don´t.

No. 533326

>>533323
*a girlfriend

I can´t type, my cat is an aggressive idiot who loves hands.

No. 533328

>>533297
>I'm sure German citizens will be prioritized
No wonder you spout best healthcare so hard, you haven't been paying attention to Germany for at least a decade. In case you're italian, your people will be fine in our hospitals.

No. 533333

>>533323
??

This is what you wrote: It gives my emotionally unstable girlfriend vibes.

Or did you mean "me" instead of my?

Still, it's fucking embarrassing. You sound like someone who grew up on tumblr or uses too much r/raisedbynarcissists

No. 533334

>>533328
I'm confused, my brain is literally rotting in quarantine. Is this about immigrants? My original statement was that our healthcare system doesn't suck, not that the German does. In the post you quoted, the "best healthcare system in the world" is… alright, I will admit I didn't put it in the best terms but it was just an assumption that if you have more beds and machines than us for example, and more are being build right now at least the 8 beds now occupied by the Italians will be made. Or at least I hope so. I have no doubt that they will be treated well.

No. 533335

Another day of waking up with just tightness in my chest, and it is very slight thank God. I'm really hoping that this means I'm one of those people who are only going to experience the slightest of symptoms although I get more nervous every day. It's been about a week since I started feeling the chest pressure. And they say you can turn really fast in the second week of the typical two week recovery phase. I'm praying this speeds up and leaves my body and that my parents remain well too.

No. 533337

>>533333

Yes genius, that´s what I meant. And just in case you did not notice: The sentence "It gives mY emotionally unstable girlfriend vibes" does not even make any sense. Well, apparently it does in your world, lol.

Also, I can assure you that I did not "grow up on tumblr" because there was no such thing when I was growing up. But since you seem to know what the people on tumblr and the other site are like, you obviously must have been using them at one point. Good for you, after all, everyone needs a place where they can pour their heart out.

No. 533343

>>533337
Why the fuck is tumblr always referenced on here? Saw the same shit in another disagreement yesterday. The response is always people saying they've never even been on tumblr.

No. 533344

>>533337
Oh sorry I didn't realize it is others people's fault you keep typoing and not making sense and that's alright but if I make a mistake in reading comprehension that is not accetable.

You diagnosing strangers online with paranoia or unstable gf vibes or whatever shit still is embarrassing behavior, you fucking boomer

No. 533345

>>533343

I don´t know, and I am also not the one that brought it up. I don´t use social media, so I have nothing to say about it.


>>533344

You are right, it´s not acceptable. Glad you at least understood THAT.

Boomers are like 70, LOLOLOLOLOL

No. 533347

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>>533310
>No, Germany is applying the method of testing more living people than any other country
That's a pretty bold statement, do you have a source for it? Because other Germananons in these threads have always complained the opposite, that they don't test enough.
Testing postmortem also makes sure that all those "strange pneumonia deaths" don't go unnoticed.

I get strange vibes from some posts in here…

No. 533353

>>533347

https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-why-coronavirus-death-rate-lower-italy-spain-test-healthcare-2020-3?r=DE&IR=T

If you want more sources, use google or let me know if you want them from me, I´ll post them for you later on, I´m half at work right now and can´t open too many pages.

No. 533357

>>533353

Oh and I doubt that any country would let anyone go untested postmortemly that has died of anything related to their lungs, such as "strange pneumonia".

No. 533364

>>532471
I cried after the clapping I've been such an emotional wreck

No. 533366

I got so annoyed yesterday with a friend of my family. she's 72 and has COPD. my mum has been taking food to her but had called someone else to bring her some fresh veg and fruit and also someone who is delivering pet food. she calls my mum and asks if she can get to the bank or has any cash so she can pay these people. my mum calls her back and says she can but she tells her she's 'going to have a walk down there herself' she's decided. my mum tells her to seriously reconsider but she'd made her mind up and went anyway

why? we were willing to help her out! we had cash in our house we could've lent her. I don't get it. I know she's not used to this isolation but to put herself in harms way when she already falls into what the NHS calls the extremely vulnerable category is so frustrating to me. seriously hope she doesn't get covid because I worry she won't survive

No. 533369

>>533366

I hear you, it´s the same with my grandma who is 88 and has heart disease. There is no keeping her inside, either, even though my parents would bring her everything that she needs. I have a very hard time telling whether she thinks that this is no big deal, or whether she simply does not worry because she wouldn´t mind if she got it. I know that sounds kinda fucked up, but since my parents told her straight up how dangerous the situation is, one has to assume that she may simply not care. It´s very sad.

I hope you friend will be ok.

No. 533372

>>533353
>As of March 28, the UK had tested 113,777 people. Spain and Italy are also not testing anywhere near as much.
Not sure about Spain, but as of today, Italy has tested 429,526 people and is carrying about 100k tests per week. Good on your country if you started testing more though.

No. 533373

>>533249
The absolute state of our country. I'm all for solidarity and helping other EU countries, but can we at least do this after we finished prepairing our hospitals and not right before the first wave of critical-state patients arrive?
I also love how that article doesn't say who exactly those 5 people are and why they absolutely need to be flown all the way from italy to germany instead of just treating them in the less affected areas of italy.

No. 533383

>>532471
>>533364
i hate the clapping so much. they won't fuck you, guys.

No. 533404

Anybody else with the chest pressure also getting an itching sensation in your chest?

No. 533405

>Trying to watch streams about the virus
>Start watching Agenda Free TV
>Its anything but, because all he does is screech about how everyone is going to die and whine about what people are posting in the chat in between yelling BREAKING NEWS every 10 minutes anytime a state or even other country gets another case

How tf do people watch this shit? And is there any good news stream to watch thats chill?

No. 533410

>>533249
Didn't you guys seize a shipment of PPE that was meant for Italy?

No. 533417

>>531392
They heard Trump say chloroquine and they got desperate and drank fishbowl cleaner that had that chemical in it.
He’s not at fault for people being stupid and irrational with zero common sense.

The wife of the man who died in Arizona told NBC News that she and her husband ingested chloroquine after realizing that a product used to clean the couple’s fish tank by killing aquatic parasites contained the substance. “I saw it sitting on the back shelf and thought, ‘Hey, isn’t that the stuff they’re talking about on TV?’” she said.

You guys just taking the media for its word are fucking idiots too.
Do your research.
Everyone lies

No. 533419

>>533417
Yeah. Trump said hydroxychloroquine, not just "chloroquine."

No. 533420

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A pharmacy I worked at earlier this year (and I also live like 10 minutes from) was closed this week because of a “potential exposure incident”

No. 533421

>>532932
The stupidity in this thread is far too much. Turn the news off and calm the fuck down. This virus is not as bad or contagious as you think it is. Read a book or something.

No. 533423

Wtf….i thought it was just a meme, but somehow i have completely lost track of the days of the week. All day today I thought it was Sunday. My mom just informed me its only Saturday…

No. 533428

The supermarkets around me (and there are 3 of them) are all closing for two weeks starting Monday… I think my family has enough food, and if really need be we can drive out to BJs, but what the fuck.

No. 533431

>>532932
Anon, consider gloves? I've used them everywhere and it feels kind of natural now. Also, you need to take something to calm down.

No. 533432

any midwest or chicagoanons? illinois now has the distinction of the first known infant covid death

I hope that's a wakeup call for the idiots

No. 533433

I'm extremely lucky to be in a low risk area, so I still get to work my shifts. We've restricted a lot of our services and products. I've noticed a trend of people thinking that since we're open we can provide everything as usual. They'll praise us for remaining open, and then complain that we dont have what they want.
It's like they think that we are immune to any risks or govt rules.
Not the worst thing, but the polarity of the community is getting a little frustrating.

No. 533435

Anyone else already work from home and wish they got the break everyone else does?

No. 533441

>>533435
I'm literally the only person in the house I'm living in (of 8 at-risk people) that still has to go to work. I'm a college student so I can't just quit and I'm not getting any extra help from the government at all so if I die, I die. Maybe I'll infect everyone else I live with too but I'm poor so no one gives a shit.

No. 533442

>>533410

LOL not that I know of. Last time I checked we sent stuff over there. But if we did seize anything, then there probably was a reason for it. Any sources? I`m curious.

No. 533443

>>533410
No, we sto- I mean seized it from Austria.

No. 533444

>>533435
Honestly I'm really thankful that I still have a job and can work from home during this, but everyone seems to act like since they don't have work, no one does.
Then again, if I had a break I don't know what I would do since everything is closed. At least working takes up time every day.

No. 533450

>>533435

I'm kinda on both sides, on the one hand I would love to stay at home and do nothing but playing animal crossing rn all day long but on the other side I kind of still live my "normal" everyday life bc I have to work (pharmacy shit) and I don't get the "whahh I can't go outside" thing at all because I still have a reason to go outside and I know I still have my job to wake up to every morning (even when it's super super busy for weeks now but that's ok).


But I have to say that grocery shopping is much more enjoyable since they restricted it to only a few persons that can go in. No more people standing around, no more children screaming, everybody is going out of your way, no more long waiting lines at the checkout. I love it.

No. 533454

>>533421

Considering that the virus survivescan survive on various surfaces for somewhere between 24 and 72 hours, and an infection is not excessively likely but still possible if one touches said surface and then their own face, it would be much stupider to not worry about it. But since you are apparently resistant to the corona virus, why don´t you go lick some milk cartons in a covid hotspot?


>>533431

I wear gloves quite a bit actually, but since they are extremely hard to get now, I am trying to save them as much as possible now. Also, even though it doesn´t sound like it, I am actually pretty calm, sorta, like I am not freaking out about the illness in itself, that´s not my worry, I am super concerned about the other consequences of testing positive because if I end up in quarantine, so will my husband, and that would mean that there is noone left to care for our animals. As far as the health consequences of an infection go, I am not overly concerned.

No. 533455

>>533454
Anon, hoping the best for you. This is one of the reasons I have decided that if I survive this, Im going to follow my calling to help animals that are affected by this. Because I know there will be many. Hopefully that wont be the situation for you. Stay safe!

No. 533458


No. 533463

>>533455

Thank you. It´s awesome that you want to help animals, there will be many of them left behind that will need people like you caring for them.

No. 533464

Anons, I was dumb and ordered a used shirt from Poshmark last week and I didn't realize the seller was from Queens NY. The total was $13. Should I just throw it away?

No. 533466

>>533464
Just wash it if you're worried

No. 533467

>>533464
Leave it in your garage for a few days and then bring it in, take it out of the package, and wash it. Come on anon….Unless you touch a package that still has the bacteria on it with your bare hands, then touch your mouth and nose or eyes, and dont wash your hands, you're not likely to get this virus from a package. Or a tee shirt. If that were the case, then everyone that went to a store or even that got a delivery, is going to have it.

No. 533468

>>533454
Yeah sure I will. I'm extremely healthy, never get sick and this wouldn't be more than a cold for me. I am also still going to work every day so it does me no good to be living in fear. Can't relate to the sheltered NEETfags fearmongering in this thread.

No. 533470

>>533458

Ok, that´s what you mean, and that´s probably also what other anons were talking about when they said that Germany "stole something" from another country. Well, first of all, Germany did not take the stuff, they just didn´t let if pass through. Germany did not benefit from this. And secondly, it should be well understood, by anyone, that in times of crisis, Germany wants to keep it´s own products that it´s own people are going to need. I find it very very weird that anyone would blame a country for doing this.

>>533464

Just wash it and add some laundry disinfectant. I always do that when I get second hand clothes.

No. 533471

>>533467
That makes me feel better. I'm leaving it outside the apartment for the next few days (it arrived on the 26th). Then I was gonna wash it in hot water. I'm just scared of infecting my family and the whole apartment.

No. 533476


No. 533483

>>533435
I still have to go to work.

No. 533486

File: 1585437350247.jpg (184.89 KB, 519x1074, IMG_20200329_001515.jpg)

Why did this suddenly turn into a "let's all hate on Germany"-thread?
We're neither at fault for the situation in whatever country you live in, nor do we have any control over what our government decides to do (whether that's supposedly helping or stealing).
Just because we don't have as many deaths doesn't mean that it isn't scary for us too.

No. 533492

>>533486

We don't have many deaths YET. Who knows what'll happen in a few weeks.

No. 533495

>>533486
>Why did this suddenly turn into a "let's all hate on Germany"-thread?
It didn't though? One nationalist-anon went a bit overboard with the "muh Germany is best in the world" sentiment and some anons weren't having it, that's it.
I'm not gonna bash any country. Let's not forget that we're all in this, the whole planet. We're all going through the same. Let's not make it into a dick measuring contest.

No. 533502

>>533495
Anon only tried to give an explanation on why less people died in Germany than in poorer countries (which makes sense…?) but then poeple immediately go on about us cheating when it comes to death numbers and stealing equipment from other countries, which like I said is not the normal citizens' fault, so why so aggressive? Neither OP nor us other germanons want to take away resources from you, there's sadly nothing we can do against our government fucking you (or us too) over.

No. 533508

Why is the world news seemingly entertaining China reporting that other countries have a higher death toll than they do? Are we…is anyone taking them in good faith and actually believing they're being honest? In seriousness? China has zero credibility. Absolute zero. I guess these countries are too chickenshit to actually confront China on all the lies and coverup.

No. 533514

>>533508
I have no idea of the 'real' figures, but I think it's to stop panic and show hope that the measures being taken are effective in eventually containing the spread of the virus

No. 533529

I hate conspiracies and I understand why people need to isolate and think they should but is anyone else becoming really worried about the human rights implications of this? I feel like when/if social distancing ends, they will introduce the biggest increase in surveillance we've ever seen in a way that will change life forever and we will have no choice to accept it because they will frame it to be that we're 'saving lives'. I don't think the social distancing laws should be enforced by the state, freedom of movement is a human right and I don't think that (at least in the UK) how aggressive the police are being by interrogating anyone simply going to the supermarket or going for a drive is helpful or is going to make people more likely to abide them (which again I think they should be doing), like couldn't the police be helping to deliver food to the elderly and vulnerable or volunteering, just do something to actually help people

No. 533539

>>533508
the numbers were already quite bad for china, if they were hiding something they'd have lowered them a long time ago. what's happening in europe/usa right now isn't comparable to how it's being held in asia tbh i'm in korea and there's absolutely zero panic or people fighting over masks and groceries and it's been like that since the virus hit the country. when i came here a few weeks ago i got checked at the airport and they made every foreigner self-isolate for 2 weeks (made us download an app that tracks our location too)

No. 533544

>>533539
It's pretty obvious they're lying. The fact that they are arresting anyone who tries to get info out and kicked out all foreign journalists? There was a drop of something like 20 million cell phone plans… while I don't think that's all people who died, I think it says something. I also saw a report where someone called a morgue and the worker was freaking out, saying that even running 24 hours a day they couldn't deal with all the bodies.

No. 533550

all my fillers are going to dissolve before the lockdown is over this is so sad. No one is suffering as much as me. My life is probably top 5% hardest lives in the world.

No. 533556

Hows everyone feeling that has posted about having symptoms?

No. 533559

>>533556
my dads symptoms are the same, slight fever and cough, and just general ill feeling but less bad than normal flu. If I also have it I still just have a sore throat and no other symptoms

No. 533569

There are lootings going on in my city and I'm scared. People are angry and they want food.

No. 533580

My school moved all of us who remained on campus (don't even want to get into the complaints I have on that) and I ended up in an apartment that obviously wasn't cleaned. If it wasn't cleaned, it wasn't disinfected. I'm immunocompromised, there was a confirmed case on campus, and the stores are all out of cleaning supplies.

No. 533583

How you difference asthma from COVID? Chest tightness/itch, difficulty breathing, sore throat from coughing, they're kinda similar. I "supposedly" had an allergic reaction a month ago but i still got all these fucking symptoms even though i'm not near an allergen anymore, an allergic reaction takes that much to cure? It's said Covid takes like 6 weeks to cure itself, maybe i should wait 2 weeks more to see if these symptons go away.

No. 533584

>>533583
theres legit no way of knowing unless you can get tested
they've expanded the list of symptoms to be almost every single symptom of every other seasonal sickness

No. 533586

>>533584
I really don't understand why people make all these comparison charts to difference Covid from flu/rinitis (even though it's very obvious why they're different) while totally ignoring asthma attacks really simulate Covid symptoms smh.

No. 533601

>>533254
I read outerwear as underwear and got so confused I had to reread several times

No. 533603

So i took my Mucinex Expectorant tonight, and while it did make my coughing a little bit more productive, the pressure in my chest has deepened quite a bit. It feels really heavy. Almost scarily so.

No. 533605

>>533383
it's a morale boost, anon, get over it

No. 533609

>>533603
Keep an eye on a fever anon. A lot of places are no longer taking people for testing unless they have a feven along with breathing and coughing. I only learned today that an early sign before the fever with COVID, if that you might be throwing up a lot as if you have food poisoning. I don't know how common this is, but that's also something to look for. Your body will do everything it can possibly do in order to get the virus out of the body. Hopefully you just have a bad cold or normal flu like everyone keeps getting in my house. I was the 4th person, so hopefully thats out of the house now. Thats the only reason I didn't go to the hospital today.

No. 533610

>>533435
still have to go to my workplace to earn less than what my gov is offering citizens without work due to corona-chan

damn

No. 533611

>>533605
I wish Americans weren't shitty assholes because we aren't clapping for NY. Or anyone that I have seen and nurses actually took to social media and asked for them to do this because their moral is so low.

No. 533613

>>533486
you're right. let's all go back to shitting on amurica, as deserved.

No. 533614

>>533529
you do realize people will break the isolation laws to the determent of others? police gunna police.

No. 533615

>>533614
idk, literally everything is closed there is no where really you could even go to break them. It just feels overly aggressive the way they're doing it, and that they could be doing something more helpful

No. 533617

>>533611
this is really fucking sad

No. 533621

>>533569
Which country / state ?

No. 533624

>>533615
>It just feels overly aggressive the way they're doing it
Look, police are people too. They're just as scared as the rest of us. You know how helpless you feel because you can't DO anything to make this better except stay at home and wash your hands? Well they CAN do something, one of the very few things that has any effect. No wonder they're pushing it hard. You would too if you wore the uniform.

No. 533630

>>533613

Ok, I agree.

No. 533631

>>533529

I don´t know if this is going to make you feel any better, but there already is soooo much surveillance out there, I don´t even think your life would change much if they introduced even more. I know it´s horrible, but the battle for privacy, free movement and the such already had been lost a long time before Corona came along.

No. 533637

>>533486
>>533502
>but then poeple immediately go on about us cheating when it comes to death numbers and stealing equipment from other countries,
That was mostly other germans discussing.
>which like I said is not the normal citizens' fault,
And no one said it is? The criticism was on the system and politicans. Stop taking it personally.

No. 533649

>>533544
My theory is the China stats are only for Wuhan. They couldn't conceal those stats since it's known around the world. The rest of the stats are concealed. 1.4 billion people and only 3k deaths.

No. 533650

I’m from Germany and I still work in a store that has to be open due to many people moving or having broken homes here and let me tell you how exhausting it is how ignorant people are when it comes to distance. Customers that have a brain keep telling me how ignorant these old people are or in general that way too many people are here inside. I think we should close in mostly children and especially people over the age of 60. Why are old people more stubborn than children currently. I’m speechless and also anxious af every time I work. I wish they would close down at this point or hire more security. People like to sneak in all the time and then we have more danger once again …. geez

No. 533653

>>533650
I honestly think a lot of old people just aren't aware of how serious it is. Many still aren't as connected with social media and tv etc. as younger generations. You know we go online and keep getting "wash ur hands, maintain distance!!1" shoved in our faces, they don't have that. And I'm sure some of them are just stubborn because they're lonely too.

I also think a good portion just genuinely aren't able to understand and have a grasp of how serious corona really is. My own poor old grandma is completely upset and doesn't understand why no one is visiting anymore (elderly care homes are closed for visits where I am). Her deteriorating brain just isn't able to grasp that concept of why we should be keeping distance anymore.

No. 533664

>>533653

I think it has a lot to do with the mental state of the person.

My two 80+ grandparents went on lockdown way before even young people did, stocked up on food, they don’t leave their apt since March 8th. But they are both relatively mentally intact and have a good basis in reality. My dumbass boomer father decided to fly from Europe to USA yesterday tho , knowing he would have to pass thru 3 airports

No. 533665

We have over 1000 cases, 11 dead and i'm slowly but surely starting to freak out, we're also isolated from the rest of the country hAHA. Mtn tietoo kellää et mitkä liikkumisbännit tulee keskiviikkona?

No. 533667

>>533486
Its due to the enraging 'germany is the bestest country in the world! If we are in trouble everyone else is fucked!' posts, just ignorance and lack of understanding causes people to naturally get pissed of.

Earlier in these threads anons were discussing how China may have had more deaths which it covered up and no one seemed to mind because it was not a discussion about the individual citizens of China but about it's government handling the pandemic.
The German government isn't immune to scrutiny just because some nationalist moron wants to clap their mouth at the worst time possible.
Plus its not like their government hasn't tried to cover up things in the past to make themselves look better, take for example the 2015-2016 new year incident.

No. 533670

>>533650

We have people like this in the UK too went to Aldi yesterday and some fucking troglodyte stood behind me at the checkout and actually breathed down my neck. They have black tape all over the floor to herd them into following distancing rules.

No. 533671

>>533667

Don't throw us all under the bus because one anon nationalist. No one said that the German government is immune to scrutiny.

No. 533672

>>533529
Sorry but that's why they have uh laws that they change to fit this situation, at least in finland we do. Just so that our rights don't get fucked up too badly, the police has a job to supervise the law and protect the ppl nothing else. Idk what to tell you, anon. The police usually don't act out as postmates or hug you into submission.

No. 533674

>>533665
There will be no restrictions towards individuals, anon. Häme might be put on lockdown or different hobbyist places might be shut down but according to the authorities there are no plans to restrict people from going outside of their homes. 11 deaths is still a very small amount compared to other countries and a noticeable number of people diagnosed with the disease have already recovered.

Finland statistics
>25 days after the cases exceeded 10
>Day 15 of national lockdown/social isolation
>1221 diagnosed cases
>134 in hospital care, out of which 41 in intensive care. The overall intensive care unit capacity is currently 300 but it can be increased up to 1000 by converting vacant operation rooms
>11 dead, all elderly or people with an underlying illness
>The Uusimaa province (where over 75% of all infections have been diagnosed) is under lockdown limiting entries, restaurants, bars and cafes are closed, gatherings of over 10 are forbidden, national borders are closed, most stores are still open but people prefer to stay indoors

So overall we're in a stable situation, but it's still scary and frustrating.

No. 533677

>>533674
Häme too? Ssshit, yea i mean we do have it pretty chill but i don't want us to ylpistyy and get fucked like some other countries. I'm also worried about sweden's way of dealing with stuff as long as they let tornio be wild west. I just wish they won't limit our moving too much since i am unable to shop for myself atm and i am dependent on someone out of town to help me, nervous as fuck. Uusimaa may as well stay in lockdown, we have so many cases and if that helps, might as well. Kiitti, rauhotti.

No. 533678

>>533667
Nobody said Germany is the bestest country in the world, but concluding that if even the richest countries are losing against the virus poorer countries are even more fucked is simply a fact.

Anons think directly attacking us normal people who have no control over anything is fair, e.g. >>533410 >>533476 ("You guys did this and that!" No, I didn't do anything) while ultimately we are the biggest victims when it comes to our government's doings. Why hate us because Merkel and Co fuck us over? I really don't get it.

Besides, soon coronabonds will happen anyway, meaning your hated germans (plus Austria) will have to shill out billions for all the other euro countries.

No. 533681

>>533677
Häme is just a personal guess for the next step IF they plan any more restrictions. As for now there are no official plans to limit movement any more than it has been now. The current calculations are saying that during the peak of the epidemic 280 people nationwide might need intensive care simultaneously which is still a manageable amount. Finland acted relatively fast with its lockdown so this might've saved a lot of lives and flattened the curve considerably. We probably haven't hit the peak yet but I very much doubt there will be heaps of bodies piling up.

No. 533683

>>533583
The vast majority of people with covid will develop a fever

No. 533684

>>533667

No, it´s due to people getting pissed off when they are being told the truth. And telling the truth does not automatically make me a nationalist. I don´t need to be a nationalist in order to know that the German healthcare system is one of the best, I only need to be able to read and compare numbers. And this is also not the "worst time" to be talking about this - Considering the circumstances, this is the most logical, fitting time to be talking about healthcare, for one thing, and for another thing, I am not even the ones who started the talk about this, I merely answered to a comment that dealt with the differences in the the death rates.
But you know what? You do have access to the internet, so if you know something that I don´t, why don´t you pull up some sources and send me the links to show me that I am wrong?

As for the New Years incident, I guess I am living in some sort of matrix, because I, inspite of this apparently being a huge cover-up, saw it all over the news the next day.

And your attempt at being funny by saying this >>…If we are in trouble everyone else is fucked!'<< was actually kind of on point, seeing how Germany really IS doing quite a lot to help people from other countries right now and yes, if Germany was suddenly no longer able to provide this help, chances are that yes, these people would be fucked.

It´s s kinda funny that you are referring to ME as a nationalist when it is so obvious that YOU are so incredibly offended that someone would dare point out that another country is better at something than yours is. Personally, if you would provide me with some reliable sources to show me all the things that suck in Germany, I wouldn´t mind one bit. but that´s probably because I am more interested in facts than I am in nationalism.

No. 533685

>>533681
Ah, gotcha. Yea, and once they finally close all the bars and clubs, that should help by a lot. I am pretty satisfied with marin to be honest and just sometimes have these moments of weakness where i forget that it's still not a fullblown hell here. It's gonna be okay.

No. 533686

Anyone know if there are any studies about how long the corona virus can survive on animal fur?
My cat walks around outside by himself and I am currently scared of kissing him, just in case anyone has petted him. :-(

No. 533688

>>533685
The closing of bars and restaurants will most definitely lower the amount of potential infections we would've gotten in the following weeks, so I have high hopes for our future. Anyway stay safe fellow finnanon, we'll be okay.

No. 533689

>>533667
germans hate their government more than you do lmao take a seat

No. 533690

>>533688
I saw so many people in kallio acting fools, this is the last stop to erase the dummies. Jaxuhali, finnanon!

No. 533697

I also think that since we finns already weren't into getting too close up into other people's personal space in general that kind of helps also dealing with this.

I sometimes get anxiety attacks over this but otherwise I feel like we're gonna make it through this. I'm happy that we have the government we do to deal with this.

No. 533698

Current reports from Italy: the rate of new infections is slowing down, but the peak of the curve has yet to be reached.
So far, about 9 people out of 10 who died after contracting the virus had other health problems as well (heart issues, lung issues, kidney issues, diabetes) while about one person out of 10 has been killed by the virus.

No. 533699

>>533688
Isn't everyone in busy going on the ferry to Tallinn to get cheap alcohol? xdddd

No. 533700

>>533686
Dude, you shouldn't have been doing it anyway, there are worse diseases than covid you can catch by kissing a free-roaming animal. I wonder how by now you didn't at least catch salmonella when you kiss your cat right after it rummaged through your neighbour's trashcan full of week-old rotting garbage.

No. 533707

>>533699
Both the borders to estonia and finland are closed

No. 533709

>>533697
Yea our whole physical culture is so…aloof? Sorry you're having panic attacks over this, kyl marin hoitaa.

No. 533714

>>533550
I'm just glad I didn't waste my money on Botox in early March like I planned, would have wasted it inside the house for the next 3 months lmao

On the plus side I can grow my eyebrows out to monobrow level and after all this is over I can finally get them shaped by a professional

yes I'm vain SORRY

No. 533718

Been a self employed artist for past 5 years, got depressed around June last year and haven't been making any art or money. Living on crumbs.

UK recently announced that they would be paying self employed ppl earning under £50k/year will receive 80% of their avg wages over past 3 years for March/April/May. It's a miracle, kept thinking I'd have to move back in with my parents

No. 533719

I’m in a rural area but it looks like the virus has arrived, a store down the street from my workplace had their entire crew quarantined and replaced with temp workers. I’m guessing shit is going to hit the fan this week.

No. 533724

>>533678
I partly agree with you that we are basically powerless to the decisions of the heads of our country, but "you guys" is just a way of speech, as in anons on an anonymous board representing a country, and it's not hate either or an "attack" at you. Calm down.

No. 533726

>>533684
Kek you are talking to several anons who told you you are wrong and showed you why. You just choose to ignore it because you're absolutely not a dense nationalist.

No. 533727

>>533726

Humor me and show me the sources. Oh wait, there were none, people just posted their own angry opinions. Ooops.

No. 533753

>>533727
Go to any hospital, spout your bullshit there and see what happens. Or you know, you could just google yourself what they have to say. But right, it's all just angry opinions, you know better than anyone actually working there or in the health sector.

No. 533768

>>533684
>if Germany was suddenly no longer able to provide this help, chances are that yes, these people would be fucked
Jesus, your god complex is scary. I don't know of any country whose survival depends on Germany, please sit down.

No. 533776

>>533684
Are you a scrote?
Because you seem to deliberately be misunderstanding the point like one lol.
You are also ignoring and minimizing the experiences of all other German anons here which must mean you eider live in a bubble or are simply an idiot.
Or maybe you are using your thinly veiled nationalist views to comfort yourself? It is a comfy lie to make yourself believe that you are currently in the best position you can possibly be in to stake this thing out.
Eider way you have proven your arrogance in what you had written, it is rather creepy and shows the extent of your delusion.

No. 533785

I have formulated a new law of Internet Pathology, it's a corollary of Godwin's law:
>As a coronavirus thread on lolcow grows longer, the probability of it (d)evolving into a cancer thread approaches 1

No. 533813

Weird question.. did anyone else in the States have coronavirus-like symptoms back in December/January?
I swear there was a super contagious respiratory illness going around before I ever even heard of covid-19. Family, friends, co-workers.. everyone I knew had a brutal cough mixed with other mild symptoms. I know the best argument against this is if it was here that early we would've seen more hospitalizations. That makes sense but it's weird.. multiple people told me they never had a sickness like that before in their life, and some even had their cough last 1-2 months. I never had the cough, I just developed cold-like symptoms.
It's probably just wishful thinking that we already had it here but I was just wondering if anyone else had our experience.

No. 533820

>>533813
I'm not American, but I have American friends who reported the same thing. They were sick during the Christmas holidays.

No. 533821

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Just learned that my whole fucking city is on lockdown, what the fuck. I can't even go to a fucking forest with 0 people in it Im so angry

No. 533823

>>533813
Yeah. I read somewhere that in some places in the USA there was some kind of respiratory infection going around that took the life of a few people. Of course it does not mean that the virus was already present, it could be anything else, but it really makes one think.

No. 533825

>>533813
>>533820
>>533822
There are multiple strains of this thing, some more severe than others. So unless they can pinpoint exactly where and when it started, i am gonna keep believing this was already spreading, at least in its original human to human strain. Wuhan is one of the busiest places in the world. They travel all over.

No. 533826

>>533821

I get why developed countries are doing lockdowns but what the fuck is the point of India's lockdown? What is the actual objective?

I'm not sure Brazil's policy is that bad in the circumstances. It was the UK's and USA's policy until it wasn't.

No. 533828

>>533823

There is something to the earlier infections theory and who knows maybe it was a weaker strain. Nobody really knows anything which is worrying in itself.

No. 533835

>>533826
Brazil technically doesn't have a single policy right now since the governors are mutinying against the president and the president is threatening to fire the health minister because he's saying that people should trust science.

No. 533836

>>533826
it was our policy until it wasnt, nobody gave a shit for months, now boom you can't leave your house
everyone i know left for their countryhouses, i can't even go there cause we have no water cause a fucking pigeon drowned in our well. im so mad
We were supposed to have a holiday week so we got quarantin'd bc people were getting weird ideas to go out and grill for gods sake :) no other city got locked down. just us
>What is the actual objective?
To contain it somehow. Nobody knows what they're doing, neither belgium nor zimbabwe but we still have to try
i understand that it makes sense, i'm still mad

No. 533837

>>533753

I can tell you what will happen: 90%+ of the people working there will tell me that even though these are hard times, they are happy to at least be here.

Yes, when somebody thinks that they can reasonably argue that an entire system is bad because of their personal bad experience, then that is merely a display of an angry opinion. And how would you know what my line of work is? For all you know I could be a 60year old renowned surgeon, or a Harvard professor who likes to troll your ass during his coffee breaks.


>>533768

Oh, you know of another country that is currently willing to provide intensive care to 120+ patients? Then you should probably get off lolcow and call Italy and or Spain right away and let them know which country that is because they would certianly appreciate the help.


>>533776

LOL, that word sounds very gross. Do you talk like that in real life, too? Eww.

When other German anons start posting general facts, rather than personal opinions and experiences, I will be inclined to start considering them. Until then…

No. 533844

>>533834

Really?

My cat is very old and has lived outside for most of his life - He was a stray when I took him in six years ago. Being forced to stay inside for longer periods of time is horrible for him, he will first start to freak out and then he will stop doing anything at all, including to eat. The longest I had to keep him indoors at a time was 14 days after he had surgery, and by the end of that time he was akin to a dead piece of rug. I will not torture my cat like that. Turning an ourdoor cat into an indoor cat is not that easy, and actually it is mostly impossible. I take care of cats in need and work in cat rescuing, and one of our rules is to only give outdoor cats into homes that will grant them access to being outdoors. If you knw something about cats, you´d know that 90% of the time, an outdoor cat will not be convinced to change.

My cat is well taken care of, neutered and comes back home when I open the door and call him in, which I do every 2-3 hours to make sure that he is ok. Inspite of letting my cat roam free, I spend a lot more time caring for my cat than any of the people that keep their cats exclusively indoors in tiny apartments, throwing them a shitty toy before leaving them alone for 10+ hours when they are at work everyday.

Thank you for reminding me that my work is needed, as there is sooooo much ignorance towards cats out there.(offtopic cat sperging)

No. 533845

>>533837
can you please shut the fuck up already

No. 533846

>>533843

Why? If you are so sure that you are right, you should be bothered by what I am saying. See, I for one am not at all bothered by you.

But maybe you´ll get lucky and I´ll get covid for not torturing my cat - as someone just wished upon me, lolololol.

No. 533847

>>533846

*should not be bothered

No. 533851


No. 533857

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No. 533859

>>533837
>I can tell you what will happen: 90%+ of the people working there will tell me that even though these are hard times, they are happy to at least be here.
Nevermind, this is either bait or someone living on candy mountain.

>Yes, when somebody thinks that they can reasonably argue that an entire system is bad because of their personal bad experience

*personal bad experience of the majority of health workers

>And how would you know what my line of work is? For all you know I could be a 60year old renowned surgeon

If that was the case, you wouldn't spout dumb shit like that and would have collegues who keep you updated on how the situation is. For example how their entire sector is already on the brink of having a nervous breakdown and doing a sick leave because their head surgeon got tested positive, is now in a serious condition and could have possibly infected everyone, leaving them in a moral conflict if they should even continue to get tested. Or how several other sectors got closed and now pushed all the remaining patients on the staff and sectors that are left while they break out crying on the phone because they haven't slept properly for days.
Fuck politicians who sit in their safe holiday houses and on their secure savings talking about how our health system will manage it somehow they don't even know, fuck comfy homeworking journalist who repeat the braindead statements of said politicians and fuck delusional scrotes like you.

No. 533860

>>533825
Anon, there is a difference between different strains and different reactions to the same virus. Mild cases don't mean there is a lesser worse strand of COVID19 out there and the cirus is changing so absolutely slowly that I don't know why new sites are making it out to seem like its a rapid change that we can't stop. Mutations like that aren't real for something like this when it already didn't have an antibody to mutate and take over.

No. 533861

>>533837
Stop shitting the thread up

No. 533862

please can we stop debating about Germany it's been hours omg

No. 533865

>>533862
Sorry. The situation is simply so upsetting including everything that lead up to it, it's hard not to vent.

No. 533868

>>533857
there will probably be a huge rise in suicide, obviously because of the financial strain people are under, but even just the social distancing, these conditions are so unnatural and inhumane, the fact that there's no end in sight makes everything seem bleak. I don't think humans will be able to live like this for extended time periods. It's barely been a couple of weeks but it feels like it's been months

No. 533870

>>533857

He mas minister of finances in Hessen. And since our economy is obviously going to be trashed after this for many years, I am not so suprised by his move, though it is of course always a sad thing. I guess. I didn´t know him personally, maybe he was an asshole. Probably.


>>533859

That may all be a true, but you know what? Even a bad thing is still better than a worse thing. I am quite honestly amazed that some people are lacking the capacity and/or logic to understand that. Know any German healthcare workers that would like to trade places with the people in the other affected European nations right now, humanitarian motivations not included? I thought so.



Since I have to go to bed soon and still want to get in a little bit of time to draw first, I´m off for the night. If any of you aren´t into any art stuff yet, now is a wonderful time to start. Art is a great way of letting out your negative emotions. Maybe someone should have told the finance minister…

No. 533873

Which cows would you vote most likely to catch covid?

No. 533874

>>533873
Kiki but she's self diagnosed with it

No. 533875

I'm sick of people posting on social media telling us to stay inside at this point..like we get it

No. 533881

>>533874

Kiki survived the scorching venereal disease she caught after being eaten out by Jakefuckingwolf (which hospitalized her) so her immune system laughs in the face of Corona-chan.

No. 533882

>>533875

Holy shit yes the sanctimony and smug virtue signalling engendered by this crisis is going to be what kills me I swear to god.

No. 533883

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>>533813
me and most people in my dept at work came down with a very contagious and intense respiratory infection in late December. we work at a grocery store in the downtown tourist/traveller area of one of the largest cities in the USA. it was one of the more intense respiratory illnesses I've ever had. weirdest phlegm I've ever seen, was soooo exhausted, odd dry cough that took forever to go away, etc…

No. 533885

>>533875
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I understand spreading awareness during the beginning of the crisis but now it just comes across as preachy and self righteous. They're not telling us anything we haven't already heard a hundred times these past 2 weeks.

No. 533887

>>533868
>the fact that there's no end in sight makes everything seem bleak.
I get its scary anon, but this corona shit will probably last 2-3 months more at best, 4 months if more countries keep acting like retards.

No. 533889

>>533887
the deaths are forever though, you dont get family members back…
and the economical effects are going to be humongous

No. 533890

>>533887
I mean the UK has already said it will probably be at least 6 months and if the imperial college london's predictions are true it will be many a lot longer than even that https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615370/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/

No. 533891

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Fellow massholes: does this concern you as much as it does me? Could Massachusetts be under reporting numbers to prevent panic?

No. 533892

>>533813
Yes, this exact thing happened to me and all my coworkers around Christmas. I had a Fever of over 101, chills to my bones, intense muscle aches, a horribly sore throat, and a dry cough which turned into a wet cough that lasted 2 months. I also had a lot of trouble breathing. I never got tested for the flu due to being poor and no insurance, so I don’t know what it was but you aren’t the only one who experienced this phenomena.

No. 533893

>>533891
Honestly i think its useless to keep reporting numbers at this point. It doesnt accomplish anything. Half of America still thinks they should be free to do anything they want and not be under ~martial law~ and the other half are so scared their destroying both their physical and mental health to the point that they're much more likely to face severe illness whether the actual virus infects them or not.

No. 533896

>>533891
This doesn't surprise me. My grandma lives in MA and there was a case in her building, which is one of those fixed income apartment complexes for old people. City officials never announced it and my aunt had to really fight to get them to confirm the rumors. They were trying to keep it secret to prevent panic, even though the entire building is at risk. I would not be shocked at all if MA is underreporting.

No. 533898

>>533890
At that point you might as well just let everyone get sick, I can't imagine any country lasting very long if they had to shut everything down for 18 months

No. 533902

>>533898
I think it will be like 9/11 in that they will use this to shuffle in all kinds of surveillance that we will have to accept and they will be able to frame as necessary and life saving. After being inside for 6 months or 18 months or whatever people would probably accept anything if it lets them have any semblance of normalcy return

No. 533903

>>533902
At least people were still allowed to go outside and work after 9/11…cutting out majority of jobs forcing everyone to stay inside unless for "essential" reasons just doesn't sound like something that can work for the long term. A month, yeah, but by 6-18 months you're just asking for rioting and government overreaching.

No. 533905

>>533868
I don't know anon, I've stayed at home for more than one month more than once during my whole life and it's annoying but not that bad.
People just need to try and be engaged in some kind of intellectual work. Extroverts are going to be fucked if they don't learn how to feel fulfilled by long distance socialization though.

No. 533906

>>533905
I think one month would be doable but at this point I don't see how anyone could still sincerely believe it'll only be one month

No. 533907

>>533905
It's not even about just being a hermit for a few months guys its not that bad xd. It's about tearing down your entire society structure just to keep people from getting sick.

No. 533908

>>533906
Maybe it can be periods of quarantine and normal life like how HK is doing it. Stay inside for 1 month, go out for two weeks kind of thing for one year and a half.

No. 533909

My extended family had it.
My mom's cousin, 50, "heavier" (probably deathfat by lc standards) said you definitely shouldn't underestimate it, the issue was less the breathing, but rather the fever and complete loss of taste/smell (which is supposedly very nasty). Taking expectorants helped. Her daughter is I think 22, also had that loss of taste but otherwise "only" herpes. Her husband is still bedbound (for a week now), fever and chills, he couldn't even drive anymore and he lost a ton of weight (she didn't lose any). He's probably worse off because he smoked a lot when he was younger.

Also, a couple days (or weeks?) ago I complained on here about my grandpa being too carefree but now an acquaintance of his died (older than him but nevertheless) and as brutal as it sounds, I think he finally takes it seriously because of that.
Meanwhile my brother (who's an aspiring priest), our local priest and a couple other idiots still celebrate the mass because "muh freedom of religion"…

No. 533910

>>533907
It's not just to keep people from getting sick it's to not tear down the whole freaking health system anon. We don't have infinite doctors, meds or beds. Society can't function with hospitals in a worse-than-war-zone state.

No. 533911

>>533907
Exactly and I don't even get this 'introverts will love it!' thing, being an introvert doesnt mean never leaving the house, most introverts still have a small group of friends or at least like doing things alone. I'm an introvert and I really miss being able to go to the park, window shop, go to cafe's alone. The amount of people who would do well literally never leaving the house is an extremely small percentage of people

No. 533912

>>533911
>never
It's for a couple of months, people need to be patient and keep their minds busy.

No. 533913

>>533912
It won't be a couple of months, I don't understand how you can think that, but even if it was it still stands, it's an extremely small amount of people who wouldn't suffer significantly mentally from that

No. 533914

>>533911
People are confusing whatever mental illnesses that cause someone to be a NEET with intoversion.

No. 533915

>>533908
Maybe but this would still be so hugely disruptive, how would this work with universities, schools, medical appointments etc. Also how long are they going to be not treating or operating on people without COVID? other illnesses will kill people, people can only wait so long, there's no way this doesn't end horribly

No. 533916

It feels like a nightmare I can't process this being real and lasting years or imagine the state of the world post this. What is there even to look forward to or survive for.

No. 533917

>>533911
Hey me too,I miss going outside to a nearby park to walk too,I use to also feed the park geese,darn I really miss seeing them considering I had no friends yikes but im coping with this whole virus crap

No. 533918

>>533917
omg my park had geese too! I miss seeing them a lot too, it was my favourite part of the day it's so depressing

No. 533919

>>533915
Speaking of universities and the like, if we're not allowed to be outside for 18 months (hypothetically) how are you going to have more nurses or doctors? They're gonna die if they catch a bad case, and to take care of people you obviously need medical training. Are they just going to manifest or…?

No. 533920

>>533919
Not all of them are going to die. I imagine some will get infected and then get better, and then start working again.

No. 533921

>>533919
Part-time remote training and continuate education seem like a good alternative.

No. 533922

>>533919
there's no plan. Somehow in 2020 governments had no preparation done for a pandemic

No. 533925

>>533813
A lot of people are saying this and it may be true but it's worth nothing that this year's flu strains were weird and the vaccine was only half effective. Here's an article from Time about it. https://time.com/5765486/flu-season-2020/

I think people tend to associate the flu with nausea and GI symptoms but my understanding is that those happen sometimes, and the primary symptoms are fever, respiratory issues, and body aches. Lots of people are saying they did test negative for the flu though so who knows.

No. 533928

>>533813
Friend had a shitty cough that started in early Decemeber and lasted until Februrary, guy was coughing up blood (whether it was from the throat being irritated or actual blood in his lungs, I don't know?) but all the doctors did were give him antibiotics. He had chills, fatigue and trouble breathing. I'm a bit mad US wasn't testing for the virus as soon as the Chinese did because he wouldn't have to keep going back to the doctor just for them to shrug their arms and hand over some drugs.

No. 533929

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-52052830

Going on a run in an empty street alone isn't going to spread anything. People are so quick to turn on eachother and start reporting eachother to the state and look for scapegoats. It reminds me a little of…other events

No. 533930

>>533928
Honestly it is really weird tbh. The absolute lack of response. Nobody in America knew wtf I was talking about when I told them in January that I was worried. That I was seeing videos of Chinese hospitals being overcrowded to the point that they were turning people away in body bags. Nobody believed me.

No. 533932

The numbers in the US are rising so fast…
>USA: 141k
>Italy: 97k
>China: 81k
>Spain: 80k
>Germany: 62k
>France: 40k
>Iran: 38k
>UK: 19k

No. 533935

Yeah I'm really worried for americans… I'm afraid the way the american government/society's structures have been fucking over the people might really cause this to be bad.

No. 533936

Isn't it crazy how humans as animals are so organized and create complex systems to make sure that other humans don't die while at the same time killing each other whenever we see fit?
This feels like the whole man against Nature/God shit from old.
Maybe we are all as a hive mind resisting the inevitable or our own mortality.
Maybe in a macroscopic level all this fear and anxiety we feel is just there to make sure we keep the species thriving and dominating the environment.
Maybe antivaxxers and dumbasses that do things that kill off more people are just concious enough of the abyss and how futile it is to run away from it and decide to not only stare, but to plunge deep into it.
Life it self really does bear seeds to it's own destruction after all…

No. 533937

>>533932
looking at numbers may not be the most useful thing at this point as most people aren't getting tested anyway, the numbers will be significantly more, plus some countries (China) are obviously not reporting accurate figures and, testing is so inconsistent among countries as well that will influence numbers

No. 533938

NYCfag here we are so fucked. I live near a hospital and sometimes I think the sirens stop for a second but then I listen and can still hear one that's really quiet. Usually I can hear at least two.

No. 533939

>>533837
>>>/pol/

No. 533942

>>533813
if we took a survey of everyone who had any symptoms in December and january of anything respiratory, of course a billion people would confirm. wuflu is serious business but god this thread is idiotic. it's beyond hysterical and borderline conspiracy theory tier.

No. 533946

How can people still not be worried, how much further does it have to go before people stop saying being worried is 'hysterical'. For months people were saying 'it's just a flu!' and that any government action was fear mongering and dismissing people and trying to paint anyone concerned as unhinged conspiracy theorists and now look where we are and those same people are complaining how the government hasn't done enough. At what point do people wan't to face reality and stop remaining in blissful ignorance as if that's helping anyone

No. 533964

>>533939
Seriously. Why does this thread seem to attract bizarre people who are (apparently) mostly absent from the rest of the site?
You can tell this one's not a regular because they're not familiar with the word "scrote", and they don't even know how to greentext, they use ">> <<" instead. Where do they even come from? Is there some huge directory of places where you can discuss coronavirus that includes these threads?

No. 533967

Despite feeling as if I have it myself(based on the chest pressure) Im still not seeing ANYONE say they feel they have it that I know and have been around. I feel like people are scared to say they might have it.

No. 533989

>>533964
Anon is a possible /pol/tard tourist, seeing how confused he was by the word "scrote", the overly nationalistic delusion and the weirdly male sounding way of "arguing" to compensate his actually very retarded points that would only ever be considered somewhat rational on /pol/. He got enough attention now, report and move on.(Hi scrote!)

No. 534017

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A silver lining.

https://archive.is/Hix0d

No. 534031

>>534017
hehe wall street man BAD

No. 534035

>>534031
His name was Peg so

No. 534037

>>534031
Yes anon, defend your overlords, maybe they'll give you more breadcrumbs for being a good little rat.

No. 534040

The worst has yet to come. In the next two weeks my city is going to see a massive increase in confirmed infected according to our mayor. I already know people whose co workers have died.

No. 534041

>>533909
Yea the herpes will most likely come out once you get a fever, everytime i'm even slightly sick i get facefucked by it. For the loss of taste, i've had that when my face paralyzed and it's one of the most panic inducing things one can deal with out of the blue sans deadline. Shit's wild.

No. 534045

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Fucking went on a run today and the park is closed! I know that the Tokyo governor asked the parks to close on the weekend, but today? Then I hear that supposedly Abe-chan is going to command a total lockdown for Tokyo starting April 1….. schools are supposed to reopen on April 6 after almost a month of no classes. but this might mean kids wont have school for at least another month.
Fuck.


RIP Ken Shimura .

No. 534046

>>533813
I posted about my case in one of the last threads…. I came back from having a 6 hour long stayover in South Korea, and a week and a half later or so I got suuuuper sick, was shivering like crazy and I was having a lot of trouble breathing (which has never happened before). I was better after around a week but I dont think Ive ever been this sick. Also like a week and a half later my kid got sick too, not as bad but it definitely fired up her asthma so had to take her to the hospital to get a nebulizer.

Wouldnt surprise me if I caught it from some chinese tourist in SK. I wish I could go get tested for antibodies.

No. 534048

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it's a bit selfish of me to be so bummed since people are literally dying, but goddamn. i was so close, anons. feels like god playing a prank on me and my friends

No. 534050

>>534048
Me too! It was the worst possible timing I could imagine not that any timing would have been good but you know what I mean

No. 534053

>>534048
Me too. I literally just met someone I really click with and who makes me feel heard and understood and now we can't see each other due to all of this. I'm losing my mcfucking shit.

No. 534058

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>>534048
Me too anon. I was about to finally be employed again goddammit.

No. 534059

>>531212
This is making me depressed but for a different reason. Everyone's talking about how they can't wait till this quarantine is over so they can hang out with friends and go places. I'm now realizing that this is no different to my day to day life. I have a good job and definitely have friends and family, but not very many. When things go back to normal, it will be no different to now besides going to physical work and getting drive thru coffee and seeing the occasional friend. Shit sucks…

No. 534065

>>534059
Are you saying you don’t do these things (go out to parks, cafes etc) because you just don’t want to in which case why would it be sad or do you mean you have some kind of medical problem that has stopped you doing things?

No. 534070

>>534048
Yeah same anon. After 4 years of mmo addiction, failing at uni, I finally got my shit together. My workplace isn't calling me because there's not much work and I'll be penniless this month. I can't see my newfound uni friends either and I was actually looking forwards to this semester.
And I'm scared I won't be able to see my bf this year since we're in an ldr and he lives in a different country.

I hope when this is over we will all be able to get our shit back together for reals this time

No. 534074

Does anyone not find any of the coronavirus memes funny? I don't mean you can't laugh and have humour during such a hard time to comfort yourself but literally all of them are so fucking cringe and dumb, they're like jokes from a 12 year old

No. 534076

>>534048
I had pre-ordered tickets for an event that was the last time it'd be in the usa for my birthday and it's canceled for good now. Finally had my classes well planned, was going to get a job, and sell stuff online. Was leaving a toxic person behind to be more social only to be locked at home for weeks. For once shit was aligning so I could get out more with a better life.

No. 534081

>>534065
No I mean I basically have no life lmao. Like I go to cafes/parks/hiking etc but bc my social life is shit so I end up at home for long periods of time during summer break for example.

No. 534096

>>534059
Same. I read the restrictions for my country yesterday and I can still do everything that I did before, proving I never had a life to begin with.

Food shopping and solo walks with a take away coffee are my only trips out outside of work.

No. 534103

>>534074
From the ones I've seen a lot of them are boomer tier and cringy, especially the ones in my language. I've seen some funny ones though.

No. 534104

>>533844

NTAYRT but there's no way you did any basic research without knowing outdoor cats are way more likely to die young, spread diseases, and hurt local ecosystems. Did you think it was okay because you were immune? Like all outdoor cat owners, you've internalized your own personal pseudoscience, and are behaving destructively. Let's hope to god you're at least lying about systemically fucking over your community. Diane Kelly looking ass…

No. 534110

>>533844
Yeah, that anon was a dick, and your rescue work is very important and appreciated, but you still shouldn't kiss your outdoor cat. And you definitely shouldn't act all superior and haughty, it's quite ironic how you say "there is sooooo much ignorance towards cats out there" when you yourself are gravely ignorant of the health threats your cat poses to you.

Please first inform yourself before educating others. Cats can transmit many types of infection to humans: bacterial, viral, fungal, parasitic, protozoan, you name it. Some of them are even deadly, all of them are unpleasant.

Do not kiss your outdoor cat ever. Wash your hands thoroughly every time you handle it. Use gloves when handling cat's excrement. Keep it off your tables, counters and beds. These are measures for your own safety that should be practiced regardless of whether covid-19 can be transmitted via cat fur.

No. 534114

>>533905

Extroversion and introversion refer to how one gets energy the majority of the time (socialization or isolation.) I'm an extrovert who's been sheltering since I-don't-even-know-when (just looked it up, 22 days) and I can't relate to the people getting bored. Perhaps extroverts are more likely than introverts to use our online time socializing (and make more phone calls,) so maybe we're better prepared? No idea, but it's fun to think about.

Anyway, I have a vent. I have a disability which (other than treatments my symptoms outgrew over the years) generally necessitates immunosuppressants or similarly immunocompromising treatments. My symptoms have gotten worse than usual over the past year, and it's gotten to the point where I can't reliably walk. Obviously, I want to stave off more aggressive treatment until things settle down.

I vent, but it's hard not to keep my health problems in perspective when others have COVID-19 and I don't.

No. 534121

The wannabe Stasi of the UK are enjoying this whole thing way too much. They're like pigs in shit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52090441

No. 534131

>>534048
Was looking at buying a house, getting married and my future plan was looking really solid. Now I don't know if I'll have to use some of my savings on just living, I'm stuck isolated in a different country to my fiance and I really don't know how viable following through on my career plans will be with how everything will be changed after this.
None of that hurts quite as bad as the fact that I don't know when I'll be able to see my fiance again.

No. 534135

>>534058
OH ANON SAME
Sorry to sound like an autist but this really got to me cause I was about to be reemployed and finally start working towards I want (starting my own cafe/bakery) and it all just fell apart. I can't even be creative rn and it just. sucks so fuckin much.

No. 534148

A hospital in Germany stopped taking in new patients because too many doctors and nurses are infected - what use are many intensive care beds and good equipment if there's no more staff (and masks) left who can work? The government said we are well prepared, they take in dozens of foreigners because we still have free beds, they expect the peak to be in 2-4 weeks, yet they can no longer deal with the situation already now??

No. 534149

>>534148
What foreigners? Yall have your borders still open?

No. 534154

>>534149
Germany is flying in french and italian patients.


Can somebody of the people who've got it tell me what their first symptoms were?
I feel so paranoid, I have very bad hay fever so I often don't really know whether it's only this or if I caught a cold. On top of having a sniff and a sore throat (which is not unusual during this time of the year), I also got a light cough since yesterday. I wouldn't even know whether I'm short of breath or just panicking like a dumbass.

No. 534160

>>533919
College courses are being continued online. A lot of these medical students also work as CNAs in hospitals; training is continuing.

No. 534162

I can't believe there are people defending religious congregations in churches and mosques during a pandemic. I hope these religious leaders get prosecuted to the fullest extent by the law, but that probably won't happen because people feel they need to be sensitive of these exploiters.

I live in the bible belt and what's been in the news are a bunch of pastors bitching because they can't get the people in their doors to pass the collection, so they're losing money and are pissed about it. Boo hoo! Maybe living like Jesus and taking an oath of actual poverty would do those brats some good for once.

No. 534165

>>534048
Me too anon. I finally had savings and was going to move in another country this spring, something I've been planning to and dreaming of for the last two years. Now who knows when I'm gonna leave this shithole town and this abusive ass household…

No. 534170

>>534154
Ohh fuck didn't know about that, good guy germany guess. I have hay fever rn and it's nerve wrecking.

No. 534189

>>534148
>The government said we are well prepared, they take in dozens of foreigners because we still have free beds, they expect the peak to be in 2-4 weeks, yet they can no longer deal with the situation already now??

I swear, Germany has been shooting itself in the foot for a decade now. i feel bad for the citizens of that country. Your own people should always come first

No. 534190

>>534162
I'm hoping all these religious idiots die first and foremost, but i suppose that's too good. It pisses me off so much. i've been trapped at home for over 2 weeks, except to go out and get groceries.

I know someone in texas whose girlfriend is sad she cant attend church 4 times a week. wtf bitch?

No. 534191

>>534154
Anon the symptoms vary in severity. For me it was feeling tired, sense of smell effected, dry cough and a high temp. I am on the mend. My Mother has it and will likely die.

No. 534206

Just last month I was hired as an activities assistant at a nursing home. Now, ppl from the local hospital with more than 100 cases are transferring in. Note: the hospital is not recording any of their cases so it could be worse than a 100. Supposedly, activities are “essential”, they want me to keep on working. If Cnas and Rns are walking out, there’s no way in hell am I risking my fucking life to just play cards.

Should I just quit by not showing up or walk out bc this shit is ridiculous?

No. 534210

Why do some people choose to panic instead of staying inside and taking it easy

No. 534215

>>534210
some people are stupid and like to be dramatic but some people can't help the fear they feel. especially if they or their loved ones are at risk. I know it's easy to laugh at irrational people but have a heart, people have their weak spots.

No. 534216

>>534210
some people have to work and some people are sick aready and in more risk of dying

No. 534220

Just imagine quarantine without internet

No. 534222

>>534210
I live in a smaller conservative town for school and a lot of people here STILL aren't taking it seriously. Combine that with the fact I'm required to work on campus during lockdown and I risk infecting 6 other people b/c I don't have my own place to live. I fucking wish I could stay at home and chill like everyone else.

No. 534231

>>534220
I don't want to imagine that

No. 534232

>>534220
Just got the chills even reading this

No. 534236

>>534231
>>534232
torrent all the shows and films you want to watch and save them on either a harddrive or usb as quickly as you can

No. 534243

>>534210
bills that don’t have a grace period put on them, employment in the healthcare industry, inability to collect unemployment if you voluntarily quit your job

No. 534245

>>533714
fillers where and how long did they ask?
im considering and corona is making me rethink getting it.

No. 534248

>>534210
Just got fired from my job, not laid off but fired. No employment and we are still expected to pay all rent and utilities with no breaks. I am almost out of food and toilet paper because every time I went, even though I worked at a grocery store, was sold out. I'm definitely freaking out right now, nowhere is hiring and I'm scared I'll be homeless during a pandemic. I'm also panicking because I don't want my mom to die and she's high risk. Then I start panicking because my immune system gets worse and worse from worrying.

No. 534250

>>534236
I have lots of bluerays and dvd boxes thank god, but might fuck around and fill up some flashdrives

No. 534253

>>534248
You can apply for unemployment. The relief bill boosted the amount that you get per week.

No. 534255

>>534253
I was fired for taking long breaks, I won't qualify for unemployment because I wasn't laid off. Unless do you mean they changed the way things work so if you are fired for misconduct you still get unemployment? I was assuming it was the same as before but maybe they changed things?

No. 534256

>>533873
kardashians

No. 534257

>>533896
treating people like little kids will only increase panic from the unknown

No. 534260

>>534048
Same, was about to start a new job which would've allowed me to go back to school in september.

No. 534261

>>534148
the government has failed and lied right from the get go.
they say: we are well prepared
doctors say: omg we have no equipment
they have and still are making decisions without consulting the medical staff. they see numbers and dont understand how it all works.
just look at those idiots spahn and maas. plenty more of that ilk around in government.

>cant deal with situation now

just in some places, in some areas situation is still rather relaxed.

>>534189
germans are one of the poorest in terms of asset worth in europe.
government likes telling the people how good they have it.

No. 534262

Any swedes here to share your feelings about how weirdly your country is handling this? Love, curious finanon.

No. 534272

I'm a temp whose contract would be ending next month. My job allowed me to get set up remotely, but a few days into it they reneged it slightly to say they want to bring me back in for at least half a shift to train, to "justify" me being employed, by giving me duties on the factory floor instead of just the office like what I was hired for. I feel like it's a passive aggressive way to threaten my employment, they need me as backup help so obviously if I told them no it would jeopardize my chances to remain employed. Also it's like they won't outright just let me know if they don't intend to renew my contract or what to keep me on my toes to squeeze more work outta me. Even after I do all that I might get my hopes up by the end of April. I don't think I would even qualify for unemployment if my contract just expires. I could be fucked.

No. 534275

Well…on a lighter note, if anything comes from this virus…I hope masks become a functional/aesthetic fashion choice in the west. I would really love being able to hide my face in public when I’m feeling ugly and not be stared at.

No. 534277

>>534275
Same, plus there are so many ways for customization.

No. 534292

>>534262
Not swedish, norwegian. Honestly the way Sweden has been handling this thing has been really.. interesting. Their death rate seems to be increasing by quite a bit now even while considering the higher population. Their state-epidemiologist said it was likely due to "being the weekend" and a "lag in the healthcare system" or how I should put it which is an interesting take to say the least. I guess we'll see how it goes. Would be interesting to hear what swedes on here think.

No. 534309

>>534292
It's so fucking odd compared to the rest of the nordic countries, none of the swedes i know wanna talk about it because they're too anxious.

No. 534311

>>534309
Swedish. I'm still supposed to go to work if I don't have any symptoms. Life seems oddly normal here and no one I know has quarantined themselves, despite losing their jobs.

The high death rate is scary but considering most cities aren't testing for corona our number of cases is probably way larger than statistics show, so the death to case ratio isn't so abnormal.

No. 534323

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>>534275
Same anon. I think we're heading in that direction. This pandemic is encouraging people to take cleanliness seriously. I was called a "germaphobe" before this all started for having masks, wipes, gloves, tissues, and hand sanitizer with me at all times, but now everyone is turning around and appreciating it.
Also Tbh I'm really liking all the stores being so clean, having customers stay separate from each other, having employees wear gloves, and being more hygienic in general. Hoping this could be something they could continue to upkeep.

No. 534326

Happy to see the "It's not worse than the flu!" crowd finally getting their btfo from professionals whose job it is to be competent when discerning numbers and work with covid versus flu patients every day.
All I've wanted through all this is people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about. Not rich politicians looking after their shareholder's best interests, nor facebook detectives who think because they've got one article from some weird source that it's reality.

No. 534328

>>534260
I started a new job and trained for two days. suddenly we're on a state lockdown and i dont have a car and the buses only drop you off close to work, so i'm afraid to get pulled over by the cops, asking where i'm going, when i'm just going to the bus stop to walk to work

No. 534330

>>534275
This. I've always wanted to wear a mask for both aesthetic and practical reasons. I sneeze/cough a lot when I have the flu or during the pollen season and a mask would be so useful and mindful to other people around me. It's a shame it's looked so much down upon in the west.

No. 534331

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I'm going on twitter to mostly see how people are handling it, wishing them the best. One thing that drives me up the wall is seeing certain users using this as an opportunity to have political slap fights. This isn't the god damn time to burn bridges- I just want people to leave that shit for another day and just cooperate to find anyway to prevent the virus from killing everyone.
>>534220
I can survive no internet, but what worries me most is no electricity.

No. 534333

>>534220
Alot of people don't have internet in some countries or can't afford it, or are now experiencing low connectivity.

No. 534336

Mom works in a hospital, she came home to say most if not all the units were all turned into covid19 rooms. Not sure which units are for what since she always tells me the numbers and not what its for, going by what she said I'm assuming like 4 floors so far are packed with patients. I've heard other people saying their local hospitals are empty, so I don't know what the fuck is going on.
I wish the media was more honest with the numbers.

No. 534351

>>534048
I was searching for a job for months and was getting really desperate. I was offered a job in my desired field. BOOM. Corona happened, and the company told me they can't proceed with my application because they have to fight for survival on the market.

I feel incredibly down because in the following days I will have to apply for unemployment benefits which is something like the ultimate badge of shame in my country and I feel like crying all the time. I really thought I made it, but now the job search will get even harder. It's hard to have a positive outlook…

No. 534355

What do you all think the odds are of getting sick while working at a grocery store? To me it seems inevitable that pretty much every employee will get sick since there's huge crowds. It doesn't seem safe but that's basically the only kind of job that's hiring.

No. 534359

>>534355
Most stores are only allowing a certain amount of people in at high risk areas. What is your grocery doing to help prevent the spread?

No. 534370

Not sure if it will be interesting to anyone but my friend who is a critical care doctor text me this:
‘Just finished two 12 hours shifts in ICU of a hospital in the epicenter of coronavirus, which is not my primary hospital. Unfortunately NJ, particularly northern NJ has joined NY as the epicenter of this pandemic in USA. Number of patients on ventilators due to C-19 are unimaginable. They are all over, ICU and other makeshift ICU units and in ER and more are coming every hour. It was hard to take care of all those patients by a solitary intensivist but I got great help from hospitalists, ER physician and most noticeably from our anesthetist friends.

Its really getting bad here in NJ, this is the situation in all the hospitals. Many hospitals, particularly the smaller ones don't have enough doctors to manage the patients.

Lets pray and and hope we all will be able to flatten the curve very soon.’

Hope any NY/NJ anons stay safe and have places they are able to stay inside until this subsides

No. 534376

>>533930
this for me but in canada

No. 534377

>>533202
Jesus anon, please find something to hold on to. Get a puppy or something. I know that sounds flippant but I'm not joking. There's got to be something you can look forward to? Whatever's happening in your life, you've got to find the joy in it, it's there somewhere. Don't give up.

No. 534378

>>534070
>>I hope when this is over we will all be able to get our shit back together for reals this time
Every politician right now

No. 534382

>>533373
>why they absolutely need to be flown all the way from italy to germany instead of just treating them in the less affected areas of italy.
I'm guessing the docs didn't want to leave their home country? It doesn't sound like Germany has them beat just technologically. If that were the case they could send the tech/gear over there and be done with it.

No. 534384

>>534255
not from your country but obviously look into it just in case, and keep track of news for any possibilities of finding funding or other services. don't just assume you're fucked kek

No. 534386

>>533268
>then you are a shitty parent. And that is exactly how it is when it comes to a country.
Sorry anon but that's such an awful, terrible analogy; the State as a parental figure. That's just what we need, people looking to these politicians like they're mummy and daddy lol.

No. 534391

>>533709
I read the same is true for Sweden. Partially explains how they've been able to contain it. Japan and Korea are also supposedly doing a good job of containing it and infection numbers have decreased.

No. 534392

>>532644
I know I'm sort of late on this subject, but isn't this whole thing counter-intuitive? China already had a censorship strict society, and the whole reason why this virus got out of control is because of censorship (killing all of the reporters/doctors who tried warning citizens). And right now the country is in a middle of a riot, and the Wuhan citizens were literally able to trample over the police force who were guarding the borders and even flipped over a few of their vans/cars, and crossed the bridge to to to other cities.
There's elites that are already experiencing the virus, and they know (like us) that reinfections will increase your chances of death (I think at most its 2 reinfections, but most I've seen who get reinfected die immediately). Also globalism is already being thrown out the garbage and people are considering focusing on nation-only goods for their own people.

Maybe I'm over optimistic or underestimating the nefarious Illuminati boomer gang, I don't know- but all I know is that everyone already saw what happened and whats happening now; we're riding it out, doing the best we can and hope for the better.

No. 534394

>>533813
Yes. This was brought up the last couple threads as well.

No. 534395

>>534392
> and they know (like us) that reinfections will increase your chances of death (I think at most its 2 reinfections, but most I've seen who get reinfected die immediately

Sauce? Because Im seeing the opposite. There have been no confirmed reinfections vs just faulty testing, with both false positives as well as falsely being counted as "recovered" before falling ill again due to still having the illness from the first time. And medical experts are claiming people are recovering and have antibodies that may be useful if donated to other patients.

No. 534397

>>533857
Damn. Well I hope he was a horrible pos, otherwise there's no consolation.

No. 534398

>>534395
Don't have the definite source. It was somewhere in Asia where a woman who got reinfected died immediately. There's talk about it also being permanent or it giving you neuro related damage. I don't know but what I'm doing is just staying at home and protecting my immune system.

No. 534404

>>533910
>Society can't function with hospitals in a worse-than-war-zone state.
Yes, that's when martial law comes in. Then you can really kiss your human rights goodbye. I forget who said it but the quote goes something like, those who would trade their liberty for a little security deserve neither.

No. 534406

>>533584
Somehow this idiocy doesn't surprise me.
>>533928
Just a reminder that medical malpractice is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US. We have a lot of great healthcare workers but the system is shit, and unfortunately a few bad apples can spoil the whole bunch.

No. 534407

>>534404
only retards think that liberty is important in the slighest.

No. 534408

>>534407
lmfao ok.

No. 534411

>>533929
This is the kind of shit that can snowball into some Nazi-esque clusterfuck. I read some article where some asshat called the popo because he heard his neighbors coughing. Like wtf, seriously? Get a fucking grip.

No. 534418

>>534114
Hope things can get better for you anon. Our emotions have a demonstrable effect on our immune system function. Please read https://www.heartmath.org

No. 534420

>>534162
I've read that more of these people are having gatherings at their home. I somewhat understand the rules around public spaces but in private residences the government should have no jurisdiction.

No. 534421

>>534255
Anon, think in steps. If you can't find another job or don't know anyone willing to pay you under the table, you'll have to get welfare/foodstamps. Find your nearest food pantry. There's got to be some orgs still operating who help out people in your situation.

No. 534422

>>534206
If you don't feel safe and you can risk being unemployed, I don't see why not. Health workers aren't being protected enough imo.
>>534220
lol. I have physical books to read and other non-virtual amusements I can avail myself of. I once spent almost two weeks with nothing but a stereo for music, reading by candle light. Not that i wouldn't miss the internet for awhile but that would pass.

No. 534423

>>533624
This isn't about perfection - these people are held to a higher standard for a reason. In 'merica our police take an oath to the Constitution. If they violate that Oath then they should just fuck off and become vigilantes. At least then they'd be honest about what they really are. Police brutality/abuse happens everyday over here. "I was just doing my job" doesn't excuse going off the rails. If they can't handle the responsibility of their profession then they should leave it to someone who can handle it.

No. 534425

>>533417
>You guys just taking the media for its word are fucking idiots too.
>Do your research.
>Everyone lies
This should be on a billboard.

No. 534426

>>533405
No good streams, just folks like these >>532548 who post intermittently. Bigger picture stuff.

No. 534428

>>533936
>Maybe antivaxxers and dumbasses
Hey if you want to risk being one of the people that died or had their health ruined for the rest of their lives >>532625 be my guest. Pick your poison, chief. Why don't the pro-vaxxers ever bring up the vaccine injury court? Vaccines aren't some magic bullet. They're useful in an extremely limited capacity.

No. 534432

>>534426
So basically wait for schizophrenics to come off their meds and make a video? That's a particularly bad example.

No. 534434

>>533544
>someone called a morgue and the worker was freaking out, saying that even running 24 hours a day they couldn't deal with all the bodies.
Please post sauce next time if you have it. Their sociopath president must be salivating over the fact that the govt can kill its own people and label it a "corona death". It's the Cultural Revolution all over again except Xi is probably 10x more insane than Mao. Such a rich cultural heritage tarnished and crushed by fascism. Sorry to wax on but I studied the language abroad for a year. Most of the people I met were pretty awesome, great sense of humor, tough as nails, and never believed a word their government told them.

No. 534437

>>534432
Yes, ad hominem because you can't argue against any of the points they raised. "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."

No. 534439

>>534370
This is interesting, thanks anon. Come back and share again if your friend says anything else. On the ground info is what some of us are looking for.
I have a friend in NJ with an at risk family member and I’m worried for him.

No. 534440

>>534355
My bf works at a grocery store, and he's developed a cough late last week. No fever or other symptoms so his work basically said stay home for two weeks. He works at one of the few grocery stores in his town and pretty much everyone in that area goes to it so I was worried it was only a matter of time. I really feel for retail workers right now.

No. 534442

>>534440
Mine works grocery. I'm on leave right now and I'm worried sick daily about him because the area he works brings a lot of poor people and they aren't hygeinic at all from what he tells me about how they don't keep distances, bring in all their kids and extended family to shop. Law should be two people max to shop. No one needs to bring in 8 people to get stuff. That's how hoarding happens. Limited per household entry needs to be put in place all over the country. That will help the workers feel safer.

No. 534451

>>533529
>>533631
It's been called the totalitarian tiptoe - micro escalation. I'm all for taking reasonable precautions but shit like this >>533090
>took two hours to get into the store because of the “2 people per shop” rule + got stopped numerous times by the police asking where he was going
is ridiculous. No one should be waiting two fucking hours to buy food then harassed by authorities because of some arbitrary rule that serves no logical function. Will they start spraying all public surfaces with bleach every second of the day? Is everyone going to be walking around with rulers, telling on anyone >>534121 who disobeys?

Wouldn't it be more reasonable to mandate mask wearing inside the stores instead?

Things can go from reasonable and sane, to unreasonable and insane in a nano-second. And you can't say most of these govts (speaking as a USfag) care about human lives when they piss away literally TRILLIONS of $$ on weapons of war that torture, maim and kill innocent people everyday. They can fuck right off with that bullshit. Don't even get me started on how the poor and homeless are treated. So pardon me for being a little skeptical or sounding a tad conspiratorial.

No. 534455

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615418/why-the-us-cant-go-back-to-work-by-easter/

I thought this was an interesting article. Mass anti body testing needs to be available as soon as possible, so we can see the true infection and death rate and therefore react accordingly.

No. 534456

>>534451
Thankyou exactly. I hope more people are critical about this because like you said things can escalate in a nanosecond. I’m surprised people were so complacent about being followed with drones and interrogated going to the supermarket (which is literally allowed) but I think you can get people to accept a lot when they’re this scared and you frame it as ‘saving lives’

No. 534469

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Selfish vent but I’ve had my hours severely reduced, while almost all of my coworkers have been laid off. I feel bad complaining but I’ve had my wages quartered and I’m still one of the lucky ones. I have a feeling that won’t be the case for much longer though. Part of me was definitely fine with this because I work with a lot of tourists and was sick of direct interaction, but now we’ve switched to only curbside. I feel much safer but we’re only getting sales every 3 days, and if we reduce hours I’m definitely next on the chopping block. This would be okay with me but I was denied for unemployment despite the fact that my state explicitly said that reduced hours workers could still apply, and I’ve gone from full time to 12 hours a week. One of my former employers also said that I never worked there and I think that’s a factor, one I can’t change now that the claim has been filed. This would also be okay if I was getting something from the stimulus bill but NOPE, parents claimed me as a dependent last year so I’m fucked.

I don’t even feel safe in my own house because my parents have decided to go through with the construction on our house because the contractors won’t pull a deal with them to postpone anything. My mom said there would be one guy working today but there ended up being four. I could see them all hanging out 3 feet from each other, shaking hands and sharing vapes. I was so relieved when we reduced all the contact at my work but now I can’t have an peace of mind while at home either. Whenever I try and vent I just get snide comments and I’m over it.

No. 534470

>>534331
>I can survive no internet, but what worries me most is no electricity
That shouldn't be what worries you, take it from an anon that survived a decade of civil war. You can cook and warm yourself on gas or wood.

Shit hits the fan when the water is turned off. By itself not having running water is a huge problem, with the virus it would be downright catastrophic.

As long as water supply is functioning, I'm pretty chill about living through this, I've been through far worse and deadlier shit.

No. 534472

My large stash of booze is gone after a couple weeks of stress drinking. Someone in my building is coughing like crazy every time they leave or enter the building (my apartment is near the back entrance) and I anonymously let my landlord know that I am paranoid they are coughing on shit lol. Fuck!

No. 534480

>>534456
It's not because people are scared, it's because otherwise they don't follow the precautions and continue to either spread their possible infection everywhere or trying really hard to get infected. See all anons in the past 3 threads complaining about their family members. They won't do it out of care for others or themselves. Masks are limited and gloves are a foreign concept to boomers. I honestly wish people here would get the police treatment here to finally take the situation serious.

No. 534484

>>534336
>I've heard other people saying their local hospitals are empty
Mostly retarded schizos who think they are empty if patients aren't sleeping on the hallways.

No. 534503

What the fuck Hungary, nooooo

Hungary is setting a dangerous precedent. I'm afraid other presidents, including ours, will follow suite. And then all the dead partisans will start rolling in their graves so hard they'll cause an earthquake.

Millions of people died so that we could have our freedom. But now we might be expected to give it up willingly to save a few thousand? No.

"Better grave than a slave" was their motto. They knew there are worse things than death - like living under a dictatorship.

No. 534504

>>534472
The fuck are they gonna do? Just magically stop being sick? You must be loving this newfound ability to call the manager on all your neighbors

No. 534506

>>534503
Whats up in hungary?

No. 534509

>>534506
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52095500

>>534503
Samefag, I'm starting to have respect for the way Sweden handles this crisis. It's not just about how well you handle the virus, it's also how you emerge from the crisis when it ends. Because it will end eventually. And regardless of the death toll of the virus, Swedes will emerge with their personal rights intact.

No. 534510

>>534504
How about staying at home if they are ill like literally everyone has repeated for weeks now?

No. 534513

>>534509
Sweden not doing shit vs some dictators getting unlimited power isn't the best comparison. Hungary does seem fucked though, good luck. You can limit people without stripping all their rights, but that requires a not rotten goverment.

No. 534514

>>534510
So, they should just not buy groceries and starve?

No. 534516

>>534484
Yeah like where do the other patients go who don't have corona, people are still gonna have other issues and sicknesses too… Cancer doesn't just stop happening because of covid lol

No. 534519

>>534514
And they couldn't possibly ask someone in the building to help them by delivery their groceries huh?

No. 534522

>>534516

I shrugged off what I think was Corona but the fact I can't get my meds is going to have a bigger say in how soon I drop dead.

No. 534524

>>534504
>>534514
They've known about the virus and news for weeks, why wouldn't they have gotten two week's worth of provisions so they wouldn't have to venture out in case they became ill? Or ask someone to deliver them groceries?
Yes, the entire point of quarantine and lockdown when someone's sick but can't verify for covid is to stay inside their house for a length of time.

No. 534526

I'm starting to get tired of this country's bullshit and I feel I'm getting paranoid.
Everyone else let people go for walks ALONE but us. The only reasons you can go out here are work (which is dumb because people crowd public transportation), take out the trash, shop for groceries (and you have to prove you bought it at that moment, police will check your bag) and take out the dog (resulting in disgusting dog poop everywhere since dogfuckers don't feel any shame anymore).
I feel like this is a form of control to make us meek and easy to control so we'll be happy with the crumbs they give us. Our government is pretty much centrist but they had to form an alliance with some extreme left wing nuts to rule, and those are playing perfectly the "control the population" part. At least they haven't deployed the army yet but there's been lots of videos of police abusing mentally ill people who were ALONE on the streets or breaking into houses without a warrant. Also the balcony police, with dumbfucks throwing stuff or insulting the people who are minding their bussiness, waiting for the bus or just walking on the sidewalk - maybe they went to work or shopping.
The shame is this is such a conformist country that even if they restrict our freedom even more people will do absolutely fucking nothing.

No. 534528

>>534526
Namedrop the country, anon

No. 534533

>>534524
All the shops were empty for weeks, also not everyone has the funds to buy two weeks of shopping in one go? you have no idea about people’s situation and it’s terrifying that people are so quick to become the kind of people who would report their landlords to neighbours and police

No. 534536

>>534513
I compared them because (as I see it) they're both extreme approaches, but in opposite ways. I'm just far less ok with one end of the spectrum than the other because it carries a host of additional serious problems.

No. 534537

>>534528
Spain, land of "we've been warned since the end of January but we didn't take any measures until mid-March because of muh precious football matches and political rallies".

No. 534541

>>534536
Well of course one is better than the other but as someone close to sweden, i'd hope they'd up their game a little.

>>534537 oof, i'm sorry you're dealing with that bullshit anon, sounds like chaos

No. 534543

>>534541
It is chaos indeed. Two days ago they had to issue a goverment announcement to restrict non-essential bussinesses from opening. Not the public kind, those were already closed, but factories or construction kinds.
They listed the businesses allowed to keep working (farms, textiles, pharma) and the last one was "every business that could be considered essential". Like WTF nothing changed because all the goddamn business owner will find a hole to make his shit essential.
Sorry for the sperging, the lockdown is driving me nuts.

No. 534544

>>534543
Yea i can see how people could find an unlimited amount of loopholes. We just closed bars and restaurants by law and am just sickened by the minority who still thought it was okay to go clubbing in some parts of the country.

No. 534545

>>534541
>as someone close to sweden, i'd hope they'd up their game a little.
And as someone close to Hungary, I'd hope they'd loosen their game a little.

No. 534550

This Hungary thing is terrifying, if I’m understanding it correctly parliament and elections are suspended and PM Orbán can rule by decree indefinitely with prison sentences up to 5 years for ‘distorting facts’ and up to 8 years for violating quarantine… this combined with the police being so aggressive in other countries how can people not be worried and critical over this?

No. 534551

>>534519
Somebody like their friendly alcoholic-chan neighbour? lol

No. 534552

>>534545
Not downplaying that, agreed

No. 534556

>>534398
wow what milky sauce /s

No. 534557

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7 years prison for violating quarantine
other cities closing down
number of young people sick exceeds that of older population
and i just read england builds a huge storage for 4k bodies???

No. 534559

>>534514
Is this the 80s? Did internet already fall flat?

No. 534562

In what countries can you order groceries online?

No. 534564

>>534557

Storage for 4k bodies is probably just so they can test them for covid. Seeing as the entire society is shut down there's no actual reason to not just bury/burn them otherwise. rip

No. 534566

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>>534422
>>I have physical books to read and other non-virtual amusements I can avail myself of

No. 534567

>>534562
Every country with amazon.

No. 534570

>>534562
Idk in developed ones?

No. 534576

>>534543
>Like WTF nothing changed because all the goddamn business owner will find a hole to make his shit essential.
Construction work stopped, for one.
And sooner or later every country will restrict freedom of movement even more, my fellow Spaniard Anon. Italy did before us. Nobody fucking likes this, so stop complaining. Everyone is on the same boat as you, everyone wants to go out to enjoy the lovely rainy weather we're getting.
I would be more worried about what comes after this. Spain relies on tourism and nobody will want to travel after this. This is going to be worse than 2008.

No. 534579

>>534576
>Nobody fucking likes this, so stop complaining.
Just because people don't give a fuck about their freedom doesn't mean I won't complain. I will, at least until they take that right from us as well.
Italy did it and now they're getting riots and looting.

No. 534582

it's the allergy season right now so not everyone who is sneezing or coughing is sick

No. 534584

>>534582
Yea, my usual to this time of year slightly runny nose and red eyes are not in style right now

No. 534585

>>534579
Going wherever you want means a chance of getting sick or getting other people sick. It's as simple as that.
>I will, at least until they take that right from us as well.
"Estado de Alarma" doesn't allow restrictions of freedom of speech so there's no reason to worry about that.
I know we're all nervous but come on. Try to keep a cold head.

No. 534586

>>534550
Because muh based nationalist Orban

No. 534587

>>534585
The thing is we're accepting everything "for the greater good" and I'm scared it's a matter of time until they restrict everything. It's not the current situation which stresses me out the most, but the will of the people to let the police abuse happen and even take part of said abuse. It will lead to more restrictions and people won't bat an eye because it was done little by little.
Taking your dog for a walk has the same risk. Why can't the dog owners eat it up and clean after their filth balls? I went shopping and had to avoid 3 dog shits. The grocery store is 50m from my house.

No. 534588

>>534472
You can't report people for being sick, that's weird. I was coughing in my apartment the other day because I accidentally swallowed my spit the wrong way while eating spicy food. Then I got my mail. Should I be reported, too? So ridiculous.

No. 534596

>>534588
So many rats out here just loving the present day dystopia simulation, wanting any excuse to fuck over their neighbors or shame/snitch on their friends and family. I care about public health too but this doesn’t make it any better

No. 534598

>>534472
You’re a rat. Wouldn’t wanna be your neighbour during any sort of crisis you god awful brown nose.

No. 534599

>>534588
Their neighbor didn't get the mail or swallowed their spit, they were constantly caughing and leaving/entering the building.

>>534596
Just stay at home instead of being a danger to others. It's not rocket science.

No. 534601

>>534599
Just talk to people, maintain your 6 ft distance, be a decent human being instead of a retarded drone. Ask them if they’re ok, send them a note. Don’t just go behind their back Like that. What are they supposed to do if they are sick? Be hauled away and locked up? If you’re worried why not offer to get their stuff for them.

No. 534602

>>534601
You already got your answers, look upthread. No one's going to help you if you're coffing everywhere claiming how muh freedomz is more important than the life and health of their loved ones.

No. 534604

>>534602
Use your common sense. People are always saying this as a manipulation tactic now “oh muh loved onesz” yes I’m scared too for my vulnerable loved ones! And I am by no means being lax in my self isolating, I follow the rules religiously But you know what? Some people don’t have ANYONE to help them. They have to go out and shop etc. They might have a million reasons for coughing. Just use your common sense! The way people throw themselves into a culture of snitching and reporting with such relish makes me sick.

No. 534607

>>534604
>voicing your worries for your loved ones because someone's directly contributing to the problem instead of being responsible is manipulation
>throwing a pity party instead of recognizing you're the problem is not
Stop being egoistic, stay at home and order online like everyone else. Or you know, you could take your own advice and ask your neighbors yourself instead of waiting until they get disgusted enough to provide a service you yourself should have prepared for.

No. 534611

>>534607
>hurrdurr just stay home and order online!1!1
No idea why dumbfucks like you won't get that into your thick skulls - this is not possible for many, if not the majority of people!
Where do you get your money from? How about some consideration for already extremely overworked postmen? Not everybody lives in big cities there this is common or available. Deliveries nowadays should be for the sick and elderly, not for sperging neets.

No. 534616

I live in NYC (Brooklyn) and my lease is up May 31st; I’m not sure what to do.

I’m currently staying with a relative out of state and working from home (I’m lucky as fuck) but I don’t know how to apartment hunt or move with all this shit going on.

Should I ask to extend my lease?
Put all my shit in storage until this dies down?

No. 534618

>>534611
>extremely overworked postmen
honestly I think they're fucking glad they're not out of jobs or on unpaid leave like many others.

My mom is an overworked intensive care worker but she sure is glad she still has a paying job.

No. 534620

>>534611
>this is not possible for many, if not the majority of people!
It is and me and other anons told you why.

>Where do you get your money from?

>sperging neets
So your obsession with neets is just projection?

>How about some consideration for already extremely overworked postmen?

Now you care about the postmen, but not your neighbors or literally anyone else? Stop hiding behind "what abouts".

>Not everybody lives in big cities there this is common or available. Then overworked postmen wouldn't be an issue? You can ship things everywhere, that doesn't have anything to do with cities.

No. 534627

>>534618
They're not at risk of losing their jobs, so we don't need to stress them out on top of what they already have to do. If more people order, it'll take longer or things get sold out, so old or sick people can't get what they need.

>>534620
Yeah, tell me more about how you know what is and what isn't possible for random people online…
Asking about money is a valid question, since home office is only possible for a few. Are the rest of us just supposed to quit in order to no longer needing to go out for work?
Who said I don't care about my neighbours? Again, not everybody lives in big cities, there's a couple of metres of garden and bushes between my neighbours houses and I, us catching the virus from each other is literally not possible.
By ordering online you're putting the postmen at risk, by going shopping I also only put one person, the cashier, at risk, since you'll get fined if you get to closer to another costumer.
I and all the other people who have to go outside are doing as best as we can, so quit virtue signalling about why others don't just stay at home. It screams massive entitlement. Be happy that you won't get sick, no need to shit on others who are working and scared that they might infect their families.

No. 534629

>>534616
Depends on what you're willing to risk. Extending the lease will be less headache but then you either have to face living in nyc which will be an epicenter for months, or suffer paying rent on a place you won't even occupy for awhile yet. If you need healthcare or fall sick the hospitals in that area will be a nightmare if you could get care at all.

Moving out may be wise, but to where? You should pick an area with fewer cases of corona, which may have to be elsewhere that's not nyc proper. The good news is that I'm sure many property owners are looking for employed people who can still afford rent to occupy their properties during the crisis. I don't think finding someplace new would be a problem, the logistics of moving would be the worst part.

Me? I'd gtfo of nyc.

No. 534632

I live in a small suburban area yet the Walmarts are extremely crowded


How much more stupid can Americans get? You're told a million and one times that there's a deadly disease out and you should stay home and everyone wants to go shopping. This is ridiculous, at this point I have no sympathy for people who feel the need to go to Walmart on the daily if they catch it, they deserve it

No. 534634

Arresting people for violating lockdown is stupid. All that does is create escalation and exposure. Once we throw all these idiots in jails we will have more situations with the virus ravaging the inmates too and we don't have the healthcare infrastructure for civilians even.

Fining is okay but it doesn't mean people will pay or not repeat the offense. They'll cook up excuses as to why they can't cough up the dough and virtue signalers will back them up on that because no one feels they should have to pay money right now.

The only way to combat ignorance and selfishness without getting authoritarian, is through public shaming. Just imagine if there was a community board full of pictures and names of these dumbfucks and everyone in their community knew. Embarassment works, imo. But in the age of feefees this would never pass.

No. 534635

>>534634
Lol a local serial rapist was let out on bail bc of corona infected prisons fears. But anyone who ignores quarantine after returning to the country could face prison time!

Give me a fucking break

No. 534637

>>534629
It's selfish as fuck to bug out of NYC and bring your coronavirus to other communities.

No. 534638

>>534634
>The only way to combat ignorance and selfishness without getting authoritarian, is through public shaming

The only way to combat public ignorance is by informing the public.
And let's not regress into medieval practices, we got rid of witch-hunts for a reason.

No. 534641

>>534627
Holy shit you just keep using shitty fallacies without explaining how it's so hard for you to stay home and order online or ask your neighbors to buy necessarities for you. If you are sick, you sign off sick and stay at home like you'd normally do too. And I'm a fucking working poorfag too, with an actual family at home who needs to worry because of retards like you. And then you have to gall to call anyone entitled.

No. 534643

>>534637
It's called self preservation and everyone's got a sense of it. People who choose to leave aren't evil, nyc isn't doing enough for people and I don't blame folks who are scared, angry, and critical.
If I lived in nyc I would've started packing two weeks ago.

No. 534644

>>534638
We alreadydid this and it didn't work.

No. 534645

>>534638
>by informing the public
We had an obese orange ape wearing a blonde wig in the White House telling us as of a couple days ago that this virus would be over by Easter. A week before that, news outlets were reporting that this virus would be no worse than the flu. Since the beginning, news sources also hyped up that young people wouldn't be hit so bad by the virus, which they now take as license to be out in public and nothing anyone says will change their minds.
The majority of people are in complete fucking denial because they got to pick and choose what sources they got their info from, some of which were incompetent and not out for their interests. People don't want to hear your information. They want their food and they want it NOW. They want their clubs, beaches, and public spaces back and they want it NOW.

We are wayyyyy past the point of trying to take the high road and being the voice of reason when the people don't care anymore. And btw, shaming isn't medieval or tortuous like a witch hunt, although it sure does feel that way eh? A punishment isn't supposed to tickle.

No. 534649

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I just found out that my mother and grandmother have been trying to not only take a flight across the country, but also cross the border into Mexico (where my extended family is). The only reason I found out is because their flight was cancelled THREE times and my mom finally slipped up and complained to me. What the fuck??? What is wrong with them?? Maybe I understand an elderly woman just wanting to be home in her country, but what the hell is my mother's problem that she would think it's safe to take her?? She actually got angry and snapped at me that I have no idea what it's like to be trapped and just want to go home. Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what all the careless fucks who spread the disease around the world thought too!! I cannot fucking take this any longer I'm going to drop dead from anxiety if older people don't start fearing death a little more

Anyway, aren't the borders supposed to be closed?? Any burger/mexico anons know? I'm so nervous, I hope their shit keeps getting cancelled

No. 534651

>>534638
Anon some of these people are pants on head retarded and/or don't care about being a possible super spreader. There's people on twitter right now denying this epidemic even exists(#filmyourhospital). So shaming would be viable imo

No. 534663

So now news channels are reporting pink eye/ itchy eyes as one of the symptoms. In the middle of allergy season where our pollen count is almost 9000. You have got to be kidding me.

No. 534666

the only young people who are affected are americans lol

No. 534667


No. 534670

>>534641
But I am not sick, so I continue working and therefore also leaving the house, whether you like it or not.
>And I'm a fucking working poorfag too, with an actual family at home who needs to worry because of retards like you.
So you are working and that's alright, but I and others who also do are somehow at fault if somebody happens to your family…logic? Lmao
Also, "actual" family…? Compared to others' imaginary ones, right?

No. 534671

>>534666
Otherwise healthy 18 and 19 year olds have died from it in the UK

No. 534675

Is it unethical to be ordering anything requiring delivery like from Amazon right now? For the record I don't live in an area with a high case of covid, but it is an area where mail can be backed up in regular times and I always see packages on my neighbor's doorsteps lately. I didn't order anything out of respect at first, but I'm looking for shit to do and I was thinking of ordering a couple craft supplies so I won't look like an asshole buying that shit from Wommart.

No. 534676

>>534666
The youngest to die in europe was like 12 or 14?

No. 534682

>>534629
TY for listing it out in bullet points for me; it really is sort of a no-win.

Additionally, it’s difficult for NYC to evict,so I’m expecting pickins to be sparse. Perhaps my building will let me do month-to-month until this shit blows over. Fuck it; I’m not LOSING money right? Maybe I could mail my keys to a friend who wants to at least get out of Manhattan.

>>534637
>>534643
I holed up in my apartment for a couple weeks, and then got the fuck out of dodge.

I’ve seen enough disaster movies; My black ass wasn’t going to wait around for nyc to be deemed a lost cause, the bridges blown out, and Bane II lords over us on a throne of toilet paper.
I’m not an asshole though, and I’ve been keeping indoors and didn’t leave the state until I’d quarantined myself a while.

No. 534683

>>534670
The whole talk was about people who are sick and leave still the house, which you defended retard. And actual family compared to you "with no one who helps them" and then pretends to speak in my place.

No. 534693

>>534675
No it's not, especially not for craft supplies. If anything you're protecting workers related fields from getting degraded to part-time work and only making 60% of their income.

No. 534695

>>534643
Rural communities do not have the resources to deal with scared and infected city people flocking in. Plenty of them have aging populations, and they were already struggling before corona.

No. 534698

>>534695
Rural people where the first who got infected in my country.

No. 534704

>>534698
In my country, people from infected cities are taking their RVs out to the countryside.

No. 534708

>>534637
Yeah, remember when people fleeing Wuhan (or even China) and therefore possibly (or likely) spreading it to many others were rightfully critizised? New Yorkers doing it aren't any better.

No. 534710

>>534683
How does the anon know they are sick with corona

No. 534714

>>534710
This. All she said is that he was coughing.

No. 534719

There’s been an uptick in people from New York and maybe southern CT coming into the rural area I work in, and for the most part I understand why…but what I dislike is that some of them have that holier-than thou-attitude. Yesterday at work a woman who transferred scripts to our store yelled at the cashier because she was “too chatty” and she started going off about how disgusting the town and its occupants are. If you don’t like us go to a fucking gas station for your Newports.

No. 534723

>>534710
Because he coughed and she was out of booze and it was annoying, she had no other choice than reporting him?!

No. 534730

>>534676
12. Belgian girl

No. 534745

>>534723
I didn't rat anyone out specifically to my landlord. Just brought up my paranoid concerns and now there are Lysol wipes in the lobby and back entrance. My bad anons.

No. 534752

>>534745
Lysol wipes are good though, glad something good came of it.

No. 534764

>>534745
>I anonymously let my landlord know that I am paranoid they are coughing on shit lol.
>I didn't rat anyone out specifically to my landlord
Nice backpedalling.
Your landlord and your neighbour probably had a good laugh about that one weird woman who's holed up in her apartment since weeks and always get's alcohol delivered kek

No. 534768

>>534764
You sound weirdly personally affected. They brought wipes, so they at least bothered to do something.

No. 534770

>>534764
Why should anon pretend there is any solidarity with her retard neighbor? Because they live in close physical proximity to one another and they pay the same person to live there?
Why couldn't her neighbor actually practice reasonable hospitality and empathy by not coughing all over the common area?
Who gives a fuck whether her neighbor was sick or not, coughing all over the place automatically voids any "good neighbor sentiment".

No. 534771

>>534764
>following the quarantine measures the government issued makes anon weird
You are a whole month too late for this.

No. 534772

>>534645
>>And btw, shaming isn't medieval or tortuous like a witch hunt, although it sure does feel that way eh? A punishment isn't supposed to tickle.

Shaming people for drink driving is one thing but people are getting told off for easter eggs and going for a walk.

No. 534781

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In Maine, just got announced we can't leave our homes till May 1rst, starting Thursday. I HAVE TO GET GROCERIES FUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKK.

it's going to be a war zone, we already had random people driving up asking where they can get fucken eggs.

No. 534783

>>534770
Was the anon there to see the neighbor was coughing all over the place or did they cough in their arm or a napkin

No. 534787

>>534634
Good, it's natural selection at this point. Anyone who leaves their house frequently just to go fuck around, shop, hoard shit from grocery stores, etc deserves to get virus

No. 534800

I was kinda hoping this situation would bring people together and make appreciate other people more just for the fact that we could have each other living in peace and safety but I guess not

No. 534802

>>534787
Okay but the reason why we're not okay with that is because the people deserving of the darwinism jeopardize innocent people actually being mindful and following the protocols.
Sorry but these people are a huge problem and literally a vector of disease.

No. 534804

Anybody else just feeling like nothing matters anymore. Like… this is it? Most people are either going to die, have people they care about die, or anyone who survives this is literally just going to live in a hell scape from here on out? What's the point?

No. 534805

>>534802
I get it but still I do not wish anyone to get life threatening illness no matter how stupid they are. I guess I'll just have to live with myself.

No. 534807

>>534781
That’s going to cause a huge rush of customers at all the pharmacies and groceries. Kind of wish my state would do it too though

No. 534812

>>534802
Honestly just try to take care of yourself and try not to leave the house unless it’s absolutely necessary and take precautions not to touch door handles with your bare hands ect. That’s all you can do. People going around dumb fuck reasons gonna get it and die/get sick no matter what, you can’t fix stupid. Idk where you live but hospitals here are already far past capacity, Me and my mom helped secure my grandparents with information early on and resources and I’ve washed my hands of basically everyone else.

No. 534820

>>534807
Yeah, I am happy we're doing this. We have the most elderly people in the US and a lot of them were not changing their schedules.

The next two days will be scary, luckily I got all the shit I need for the month. I wouldn't be shocked if it gets extended though, I have no hope this is going to die down in just a couple of weeks.

No. 534822

>>534821
we have a conspiracy thread

No. 534823


No. 534824

>>534822
Yes but I figured it should be shared here for teh lulz, even conspiracy anons no longer take vc seriously anymore

No. 534829

>>534823
Back to the tinfoil thread with your ass

No. 534841

>>534719
You'd think these fleeing disease bombs would at least pretend to be polite during this time.

No. 534852

So 40 healthcare workers at the hospital in the town I live in tested positive. I'm fucked guys.

No. 534863

So I havent updated in a couple of days. I still have the chest pressure with no other symptoms. This is day 9 or 10. My coughing gets worse at night but is getting better every morning when I wake up. Im still breathing fine. Every once in awhile I feel a pulse of pain in my chest especially right by my ribcage. But its only happened a couple of times today. My throat is a little scratchy the last couple of days but its probably because of coughing. Still keeping up my regimen of citrus, multivitamins daily, hot tea at night. Tons of water during the day. Going out in the yard for at least 30 minutes a day when the sun is at its brightest in my area. Im eating a LOT more. I went from having no appetite for over 2 weeks, to actually craving foods and being able to eat whole meals(still only one a day) without feeling like im going to vomit. I think part of the reason its better is because Im not having as many panic attacks. I went from having them 5ish times a day(full on sobbing, unconsolable, not able to breathe) to having them only once every couple of days, and its usually just because i become overwhelmed with emotion about my parents potentially getting sick. Still no fever. Im thinking about all the other anons who have this or are going to have it, or who have someone they care about that has it. I dont know why or how my symptoms have been so mild in comparison to what feels like everyone else who is testing positive. But Ive made peace with my spirituality, which I think plays a huge part in helping me stay calm, because you never know. I've basically accepted that what is going to happen, is going to happen. Try not to fear. Keep your faith in whatever it is you believe. Religion or no religion. Just make peace with the situation, hope for the best, and do things that make you feel at peace and happy right now. And it doesnt hurt to communicate how you feel to people you care about. Pick up the phone or get online and let those you love know how much you care about them.

No. 534893

>>534804
Yeah, I want to see a way where anything good comes from this or things return somewhat to normal ever but I just can’t

No. 534933

>>534645
>And btw, shaming isn't medieval or tortuous like a witch hunt, although it sure does feel that way eh?
No. Shaming is a medieval tactic for getting people in line that we got rid of because it spirals out of control and turns into witch-hunts easily. Do you think anyone can control public outrage? No, it spreads like wildfire. Do you think it's a good idea to unleash something that uncontrollable in the middle of a world crisis? No, it's incredibly dumb.

Like I said, there is a good reason civilization replaced shaming with better mechanisms. Trust in our ancestors that they did the right things shaping our civilization. The lessons they learned came at great price. Let's not repeat them.

No. 534941

>>534783
They said they heard them coughing through their door. What a douche to report their neighbor over that.

No. 534960

>>534562
Groceries, at least where I am USA, are 2x+ more expensive online. Cheaper to buy in store.

No. 534961

>>534599
>>534601
How about everyone wears a mask, don't touch/cough on each other and mind our own fucking business unless someone's getting physically hurt or attacked. That doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
>>534611
>Deliveries nowadays should be for the sick and elderly, not for sperging neets.
Agreed. They should have priority. The rest of us who can use our legs, should.

No. 534962

>>534616
I have family in NY. I've worried about them and kinda wished they were here. If I were you I'd just stay with your family, unless you have someone really important in NY you want to go back to.

No. 534963

>>534663
These motherfuckers lol. And then they wonder why some people aren't taking this shit seriously, like fuck off really.

No. 534964

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615377/coronavirus-model-london-vaccine-suppression-imperial-deaths/

Does anyone feel that the initial approach of herd immunity may have actually been the better strategy

No. 534965

>>534634
>>534933
My local grocer's done this with some shoplifters, pasting their images up on the front doors, but because they've been caught selling literal rotten food no one gives a shit lol.

They do this "shaming" bullshit in some Chinese communities where people have those ridiculous social credit scores. If their score is too low they can't do basic things like ride a train, FUCK that. Anyone who wants more of a society like that needs their head checked.

No. 534967

>>534645
>because they got to pick and choose what sources they got their info from
That's what happens in a society with freedom of speech anon. People have to discern, use their fucking brains and decide which information is legit or not, which granted is difficult because everyone (including governments and a lot of "authorities") lie. There's propaganda all over the goddamn place.

You know you're really screwed when you're no longer allowed to think for yourself.

No. 534968

>>534863
>do things that make you feel at peace and happy right now. And it doesnt hurt to communicate how you feel to people you care about. Pick up the phone or get online and let those you love know how much you care about them.
I couldn't have said it better myself, anon. Glad you're doing better.

No. 534969

>>534863
Sincerely wish you all the best anon, thank you for the updates.

No. 534970

>>534967
Great points.

Welp, freedom of press in Serbia died today. It took our president just one day to follow in Orban's footsteps just like I feared. Now they have a monopoly on information.

But how can I trust the government to act in my best interest when our current president used to be the right-hand man to that genocidal maniac Milosevic?

The threat of dictatorship is fresh in my mind, it feels like just yesterday. Thus new virus threat does not erase the old one.

I see more countries succumbing to dictatorship in response to corona, Turkmenistan is now one of them. And where there are dictatorships, there will be revolutions. Get ready anons, this ride will get even wilder.

No. 534973

>>534970
Reading posts like these >>534550 is for lack of better words, sobering and dismaying. There are governments that will use this crisis to crack down on human rights and freedoms, which honestly is a lot more scary than a virus. I'd rather face a virus than a brutal dictatorship. I know some people might disagree with that but I don't think they know history.

I often think of China as a good example of government run amok. The technocracy/total surveillance (control) there is nearly full blown, particularly in the cities, and it looks soul crushing, which of course is the point. It's a testament to the strong spirit of the people that they still protest, even now.

No. 534975

>>534973
Samefag. If people can't comprehend how insane govts can get, they need look no further than the Nazis. Everything Hitler did was legal. If people don't keep their heads, or they allow all their precious freedoms to be whittled away for 'security', another Adolf could pop up anywhere.

No. 534977


No. 534986

>>534975
Adolf Hitler arose because germans were completely impoverished after WWI, the versailles treaty and weimar republic and misdirected their anger at the rich people, pinning it on their religion. And he broke laws too, it's just that anyone who objected him got violently silenced by his people.

No. 534992

Update of my dad who had corona, his fever lasted only 2 days and the cough has stayed mild, he also lost all sense of taste and smell but other than that had no other symptoms. I’m relieved because he’s not in the best health and is 60 but luckily he got mild symptoms. Me and my mum haven’t had symptoms other than the feeling of something being stuck in your throat which could just be from pollen because we both get bad hayfever so we either somehow didn’t get it or had it and just didn’t show any symptoms other than that

No. 534994

>>534973
>China as a good example of government run amok
The Chinese government's tried to sell their technocratic hellscape as some kind of futuristic utopia where privacy doesn't exist and your rights - actually privileges - are taken away if you disobey or don't comply, this has nothing to do unlawfulness - the endlessly absurd laws in existence notwithstanding.

Technocracy, the IoT (Internet of Things) is pushed for the purposes of control. There's this effort to put everything online and yet cyber crimes are through the roof, so what's the real intent behind it? I'm not a luddite by any means but IoT is not only stupid, it's ultimately inhuman.

If you trust the state to get overly involved in policing what you should or shouldn't be doing, where does it end? Where will it end? Some people place way too much trust in these systems and those who run them.

No. 534997

>>534986
Yes it was a dire situation where people were scared, hungry, and desperate for a better standard of living. I would hope we've learned something from all that.

There are always opportunists looking to take advantage of vulnerable people, people who are more likely to let themselves be taken advantage of when they're afraid or feel at the end of their rope.

No. 534999

I'm seeing more and more small forums and imageboards go down for whatever reason too. I feel like the internet is really going to go to shit this time.

No. 535000

>>534992
That's great. Happy for your dad. Thanks for the update.
>>534999
Yeah i saw Kiwi might be shutting down? We'll have to start working on our telepathy anons lol.

No. 535008

>>534962
Oh that’s too bad anon- I hope they’ll be ok. If they’re able to work from home they should be fine; my biggest worry is my friends out of work entirely or who still have to go in.

I will be contacting my landlord today to see if we can do month-to-month for awhile. I’m lucky to have this situation so I won’t squander it.

No. 535027

>>534823
Highlights:

>The threat of a deadly pandemic is the perfect context to introduce aggressive police state tactics. People are scared and they want to see decisive measures taken by their government. However, once this is all said and done, will society recover 100% of its freedoms? Or will it gradually go back to about 50%, celebrating each percent as a victory?


>in a matter of days, governments went from banning “large gatherings” to banning gatherings of “2+ people”.


>These unprecedented restrictions on human contact generated a climate of fear and paranoia as people began to alert authorities of illegal gathering. While these “snitches” would argue that “the faster the epidemic is eradicated, the faster we all return to normalcy”, precedents are being set.


>Albert Fox Cahn, the executive director of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project believes that most of these measures are here to stay. He stated:

>“We have absolutely no reason to believe that the government agencies that are eager to expand their power in response to COVID-19 will be willing to see those authorities lapse once the virus is eradicated.”

>If the lockdown persists, we can expect a major shift in the global economy: Small and medium businesses will struggle and die while gigantic entities will thrive as they turn into monolithic “distribution centers” for essential goods.


>Although the absolute necessity of these measures is up for debate, there is no possible debate about their necessity once the virus is gone. And we need to make sure that the dystopian nightmare we are living now does not become permanent. Because, right now, some power-hungry people are salivating and they will only want more of this.

No. 535028

>>533883
How did you treat it anon? And how many of you came through the sickness alright?

No. 535031

>>535027
>actually believes this shit when the infection started in china

haha.

No. 535059

File: 1585759437886.png (22.8 KB, 699x386, covid.png)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-52106863

I'm not religious but the idea of a loved one leaving in an ambulance and never seeing them again is horrible.

No. 535065

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Do you guys think the general public will be more or less healthy after the virus is over/during quarantine?

People seem to be excercising more during the quarantine in order to keep themselves occupied and people eating less to conserve food

But some might argue that people are only excercise for the first few weeks but then stop excercising as time goes on as well as the fact that people are lazing/sitting around more because they can't go outside

What are your predictions?

No. 535068

does anyone have any advice? my mom is stuck alone with my violent, physically abusive brother in quarantine in another country from me. he beats her and today he told her that he wants to kill her. shes too scared to call the police because they cant take him to jail because of the virus and hes also a minor, and calling the police will make him even more angry and violent.

No. 535069

>>535065
Too tired to think about all that but you need to take into account how many normies will develop mental health issues plus the already mentally ill people, so it could go either way healthwise

No. 535070

>>535068
She should get _rid_ of the brother yano

No. 535073

>>535068
Theoretically she can mix sleeping pills into his food or water and then kick him out with all of his stuff. But practically, calling the police or at least a domestic abuse help line is still better. He already acts the worst..

No. 535074

>>535068
That's fucked up. If the police can't help her now ask her if there are any neighbours or friends with whom she can move during these times. It's shitty leaving your own home, but unfortanetely that's what happens in DV. I heard that in some contries women shelters are closed, but holy fuck, are they needed now.

>>535070
>>535073
Alternatively this. Or pray for Corona to take him.

No. 535077

>>535068
>>535068
Do you have any other close family members or friends in that country? Maybe they can stay with your mom for a while, or even just whoop your brothers ass or somehing. Please make sure your mom keep some protection with her, like a knife. I hope your mom stays safe anon.

No. 535078

>an overuse of fat-format posting appears
>tl;dr sperging about conspirancies and china follows
Like a clockwork.

No. 535082

>>535068
Why doesnt she throw him out? he's a minor too? how old? it really makes me sad to hear of children abusing their parents. wtf is this world

No. 535083

>>535059
It has nothing to do with being religious. You do realize you can be kind and compassionate without being religious?

The point is this is really, really sad. This is the reality right now that if you get sick and die in the hospital, you die alone. I cant imagine losing your wife or partner of 51 years, only to not be allowed to say goodbye or see them. it's really heart breaking

No. 535084

>>535068
Police are arresting people for just walking around outside in a lot of countries I'm sure they can arrest someone over assault and death threats, almost every country also has some sort of juvenile justice system for underage people committing crimes.

No. 535086

>>535073
>>535074
>>535075
>>535070
thank you all for the suggestions. unfortunately she has no other family there except for my siblings. my brother is as he is, and my sister is staying with my dad. she cant kick him out because hes 17 still. my parents have split up, and my dad refuses to have any contact with my mom and my brother. she is not especially close with the neighbours, in fact the neighbours avoid my mom because of my brother and his behaviour. i think the fact that shes a foreigner may impact that as well but idk.

she wants to come home, but its hard because of the virus, my brother probably wouldnt get on the plane, and also she would have to abandon her cat because it doesnt have a passport.

No. 535089

>>535086
That's horrible, and i know how unstable violent teens can get but still, i'd suggest she'd call the cops on him and let them know how unsafe she feels. I know shit's not easy but no mom should need to deal with that, i'm sending positive thoughts for what its worth.

No. 535091

>>534469
How the fuck is construction on your home even allowed when it's not following quarantine procedures?

No. 535093

>>535089
thank you anon

No. 535097

>>535091
Not that anon but there aren't any real restrictions in place for many US states right now. It's pretty much "keep your distance if you feel like it I guess." There are even two homes under renovation with active construction on this street right now.

No. 535098

>>535086
Call the police for her. Your brother is gonna get thrown in some sort of juvie, at some point, if you keep it up. Don't just stand around doing nothing. None of you are helpless.

No. 535106

Meanwhile in the room

No. 535107

>>535098
weve already called the police on him multiple times before, for worse. the maximum the police did was lock him in a jail cell for a night one time as a warning, but he just came back home the next morning even more angry and violent. the last time, they told my mom they dont want to do anything drastic because hes still under 18 and they "dont want to ruin his future". he has been sent to the closed ward at the local psychiatry unit before, but they let him out of there after a few hours too.

Most of the time, the police will tell him off for being mean to my mom for maybe 15 minutes and then leave.

No. 535110

>>535107
That sounds rough. I'm sorry you all have to go through this.

No. 535112

>>535083
Er, yeah, clearly…? I was referring to the fact the main theme of the article was about religious ceremonies/traditions.

No. 535123

>>535107
That's just terrible.. Did she ever record his violent breakouts in case it gets even worse? If she'd manage to make him leave for a while, be it a night in jail or anything else, she could at least refuse to let him in again.

No. 535131

there are so many symptoms and everything feels so uncertain, it's tiring
apparently losing your sense of smell could be the only symptom that every patient has, that's what everyone is saying where i live anyway. I thought it was complete bullshit because they probably don't have enough data to be able to confirm that theory, but looking at this thread most anons who have/know someone who has the virus say that they lost their sense of smell too.

I'm wondering about this, is there anybody who has the virus and hasn't lost their sense of smell too ? It's also said that sometime it's the only symptom that you will experience, but i don't know about that either

No. 535156

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I'm having trouble processing this kind of evil. Why would someone do this? Her husband is an American, so shouldn't she have some care? Some of the comments are pointing out she has a criminal record for domestic violence
https://twitter.com/WBYeats1865/status/1245017730169724931
She literally talks about how nice the people in the store are, but she's still doing this, and she's proud of it. I just don't understand.

No. 535159

>>535131
Sorry to disappoint anon but not everyone has this symptom. There's some suggestion that it could be a good one to look out for in otherwise asymptomatic cases, but there's plenty of people confirmed to have COVID-19 who can still smell and taste. It's also yet another symptom that can be caused by a million other cold and flu viruses, so not much use as a diagnostic tool.

Heck, there was one study that found out of 204 confirmed cases, 49% presented with some sort of digestive issues as their main symptom. This virus is just all over the place in how people react to it.

No. 535166

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>>535156
was reading the twitter comments and came across this LOL

No. 535189

>>535107
What country is this anon? Somehow I'm not surprised the police are useless.

I might suggest thinking of ways your mother can de-escalate the situation, something to help suppress the chimpouts? A chimpbrain is very easy to appease. I'm sure she tries to avoid him anyway, but whatever little things she can do to keep him occupied with something that's not her - does he play video games? Does he try to occupy himself with things and she tries to dissuade him? Interact as little as possible. Does he have friends he can slum around with outside? God people like him need to get Corona and fuck off. Sorry anon.

No. 535190

>>535059
If you have to isolate anyway because you're around the infected, why the fuck can't you go to the funeral? I saw vid of people in Iran burying their dead, family wasn't totally barred from attending because of muh virus.

No. 535194

>>535097
lol how is this possible when so many business are being shuttered? I rely on public transport and at times have had to wait for over an hour to get home because the buses are running on reduced schedule. I'm glad construction people can find work but holy shit.

No. 535199

>>535194
that's Florida for you, it's a punchline for a reason

No. 535200

File: 1585778761118.jpg (107.56 KB, 1166x679, trump_virus_head.jpg)

>>535156
Is this a meme? It looks like a joke.How's she buying up all this shit when stores everywhere are limiting purchases per customer?
>>535166
kek. Someone did a similar thing with Trump too except it was CG'd onto a video. The vid's floating around somewhere on twitter.

No. 535202

>>535031
>Obviously didn't read the article
The article was talking about the rise of surveillance and abuse of power, because of that's what governments do best, anon. Be more literate and less naive.

No. 535204

File: 1585779114614.jpg (308.59 KB, 1536x1427, 1585777019648.jpg)

>creates an environment where they need billions a year to survive
>constantly blows hundreds of millions on projects, some dont even see the light of day
>owns literally everything and constantly undercuts its own businesses with other businesses because it has to do everything.

i mean its a recipe for disaster

No. 535205

>>535189
they live in the uk. she tries to de escalate the situation, but i think its just teaching him he can get what he wants if he pushes hard enough. most of his chimpouts are because he does drugs and he beats my mom until she gives him money for the drugs, or drives him to the next town over to meet with his "friends". and even as shes driving, if she does/says something he doesnt like hell start grabbing the steering wheel from his seat and threaten to steer the car off the road. she usually ends up giving in to him because hes much stronger than her. hes broken bones before.

and idk what she could do to keep him occupied. he doesnt do anything all day anyway. he used to play video games, but he doesnt even do that anymore. its a constant cycle of him being completely out of it because of drugs/alcohol and then when it wears off he starts chimping out and beating her for money for more. imo he needs to be locked up in a psych ward, but my extended family keeps pressuring my mom to bail him out because leaving him in the psych ward is apparently "evil".

No. 535209

>live in boomer populated area
>Jog one mile down my street
>35 cars leaving and coming in withing 30 minutes
>All boomers
>Told a million and one times that they're more likely to get the virus and they need to stay home


Boomers are really begging for the darwin award huh. On top of that I can't go to Temple anymore, work or go to any restaurants are shops because boomers are fucking retarded

No. 535211

>>535204
Good, I hope this serves as an example against monopolies

No. 535212

>>535209
Honestly, they really are. I live in a small beach side vacation town run by retired millionaires and they're carrying on like business as usual, and the only thing I hear them complain about is the stock market and how the economy is going to be affected

No. 535214

>>535209
Most boomers are fat/diabetic/disease-ridden too so they are 10x more likely to suffer complications from it. They're going to drop like flies.

No. 535216

File: 1585782151005.png (3.32 MB, 1757x2339, BFF's.png)

>>535166
>>535200
They've moonlighted as bff's too.

I have to say, nothing's more brilliant than "disappearing" people for disagreeing with you. I give no fucks about politics it's just lulzy how full of shit all these people are.

No. 535217

>>535204
Fuck Disney, especially after they bought Jim Henson's muppets and ruined it. I hope they tank for good.

No. 535223

>>535205
Anon, what kind of drugs is he addicted to? This doesn’t sound at all like a normal teenager smoking weed, is he on pcp or something? Could your mom call the cops on him for drug possession?

No. 535224

>>535204
lol bye.

No. 535226

>>535205
>he does drugs
>she gives him money for the drugs
Well that's a problem. He's on drugs and the police aren't arresting him? Can't she get in trouble for giving him money to buy drugs, and he's still a minor?? UK has some of the strictest drug laws in europe. How are they not arresting him if he's committing assault/battery? You mentioned the police said they "didn't want to ruin his future", what future does he have as a violent drug addict? With his reputation in the neighborhood, they know how he is so they can also put pressure on the cops to keep him locked up.

If your mom wants to live and she can't go somewhere else, she needs to get him put away somewhere, if it's psych ward or something.

No. 535239

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>>534392
Appreciate ya, anon. I think the riot you're referring to was in Hubei, Wuhan is the capital.

No. 535240


No. 535245

>>535209
You can get infected and super-spread too anon, probably even worse when you're jogging. Don't blame them if you aren't any better.

No. 535250

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>>535239
Interesting how that source reported "dozens" while this one says "thousands".

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-melee-03272020131506.html

No. 535251

>>535245
That doesn't make any sense.

No. 535257

have a feeling my flatmate has developed some sort of boredom induced ocd. she was let go of her job, I still work but only 2 days a week. otherwise we both stay in because I get the groceries when I am coming home from work. all she does the entire day when we both are home is was her hands for 20-25 mins at a time (yes, I have timed) with 30 min or so breaks between hand washing times. I kinda jokingly said haha, those are very long happy birthdays!, you know, jokingly ok. she straight up backpedalled and said it isnt corona related but rather her coworker (who she hasn't seen in like 2 weeks at this point) often has lice and she is afraid to get it haha. which makes 0 sense and she never did this before when she actually worked with them.

peeves me because I pay for the hand soap she uses a gallon a day of, we both contribute to water bill equally and also i have been waiting to pee for like an hour because she showered and now is washing hands again. kms

No. 535278

>>535204
BURN IT TO THE GROUND CORONACHAN

No. 535287

are the anons who have corona doing ok?

No. 535288

>>535204
a silver lining to this mess.

No. 535296

>>535257
Damn you gotta save water, since everyone washes hands more frequently. yes it's necessary, but you can at least shorten the amnt of time you spend in the shower

No. 535297

>>535287
At least that one anon is getting better from what i've seen yesterday. I think about the one with the tested positive mom on daily basis though, wish could do something for her.

No. 535307

>>535156
I told you, people like her bought out all the masks way back in January/ early Feburary.

This is literally Chinese Art of War.

No. 535308

>>535204
Blessed be Corona-chan, just fuck Disney's shit up for good. They had it coming for years.

No. 535314

Serbanon here, with my daily warning to preserve your freedoms in the face of the pandemic.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/1/serbias-coronavirus-crackdown-and-warning-america

Now, I really couldn't give less of a fuck about religion so I don't stand behind the example given in the opinion piece, "But government is government is government. There are always those in government who will seek to use crisis situations to personal advantage". And the US has already had it's first attack on human rights - certain states tried to ban abortion services during the pandemic. That is a serious, serious rights violation that has been averted, but look how little time it took the opportunists to jump on the chance!

Civilization is incredibly valuable but incredibly fragile. Please don't let it crumble under a pandemic. Protect your way of life as much as you protect life itself. Or risk ending up like us.

No. 535315

>>535257
Sympathies, anon. This is peak fear response. Tell them to start wearing gloves instead.

No. 535320

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No. 535322

>>535320
>wealthiest hospital corporation
Isn't that part of the problem right there? Healthcare in America is corporatized up the ass. When human lives become commodities, everyone loses except for the ones making bank from it.

No. 535323

>>535320
A coworker of mine's wife is a nurse with the NHS. Apparently the masks they are supplied with are only 95% effective. Mad!

>>535315
I would kinda understand her mad hand washing were she in any sort of way exposed to the outside on the reg but she literally hasn't left the house once ever since the lockdown was announced (or even some days before) and I bring the filth in like 2 days out the week. We aren't particularly close and ever since her lice backpedal I don't even know how to suggest for her to chill with the hand washing a bit since apparently it isn't corona related (my ass).

No. 535324

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Went out shopping for essentials a few days ago. I was absolutely shocked about the amount of people not wearing gloves or masks (60% weren't wearing any protection and 10% just had a mask on)

No. 535326

>>535324
There's a shortage of PPE… if nurses can't even get masks, how would regular people? As long as people are washing their hands and staying away from each other as much as possible, they're doing the right thing.

No. 535327

>>535326
Didn't think of that. That's fair

No. 535328

>>535324
I take my mask out outside cause I've got bad eyesight and can't see shit without glasses, speaking of how the fuck do people with glasses manage with a mask? Mine just get super foggy.
When I enter the store I put my mask on and breathe very, very slowly.
Also the only reason why we have masks is because my dad works in the hospital, otherwise we wouldn't be able to have them, I'm not even going to talk about gloves since those are almost impossible to get. I keep my distance and I don't touch anything I don't plan on buying, sorry you're shocked but a lot of people can't get their hands on these.

No. 535332

>>535328
Idk but at 1:05 she talks about something you put on your glasses so you don't steam your glasses up, but it gets quickly glossed over

https://youtu.be/NcT28VIxmRE

No. 535334

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No. 535335

>>535324
I don't always wear gloves. I do put on the mask before going in a store or if there's too many people around.

No. 535336

I'm basically stuck with my boyfriend during quarantine as my house is 3 hours way by train and I could be fined in my country for returning to my Dad's.

He told me last night that he basically just wants to keep me around until he finds a new girlfriend. Obviously I'm disgusted beyond belief and immensely hurt, I can't even fathom this level of cruelty. He has also banned crying.

I don't want to be alone during quarantine, but I don't want to play this humiliating game. I think what he's done is appalling, I can't believe I fell in love with this.

No. 535338

>>535326
Common sense and reasonable precautions is all anyone can do.

No. 535339

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No. 535341

>>535336
How much would the fine be for your dad’s and would you be able to get there without using public transport?

Also are you still working but from home?

No. 535343

>>535341
I'm studying, nearly finished my degree. I could get fined £660 plus its £20 just for a one way ticket home because train price gouging is unregulated.

I'm in so much pain but I don't want to be alone during quarantine. I love him so much. How can someone so beautiful be so cruel

No. 535347

>>535343
If you find a way to get to your dads without using public transport, I will pay your fucking fine if you get one.
I’m deadass. I make good money now, and I’m powerless to really do much most of the time, but I can do this. If you can’t take it- I’ll be checking on this thread later.

I’m sorry you’re going through this; the cruelty of people stings every time. I hope you find some peace in the meantime anon.

No. 535348

>>535332
Oh interesting, although I doubt my 3rd world country would have that somewhere near me
Offtopic but I didn't watch simon and martina in like 7 years, glad to see martina is doing well

No. 535353

I moved to a foreign country in January and everything's pretty good here, I have a job and an apartment and the situation with covid-19 isn't that bad buuut everyone keeps telling me that I should've gone home the minute this started and I am dumb for staying here.

I know I made the right decision 'cause travelling through several European airports and then putting my elderly parents at risk by having to quarantine with them would have been stupid, not to mention I would be jobless and homeless BUT STILL i keep second guessing myself.

any other anons staying or stuck in a foreign country?

No. 535355

File: 1585823144969.jpg (445.29 KB, 1600x1309, 4.jpg)

News outlets have underestimated the problem.

No. 535358

>>535353
I've been staying with my SO who lives in a foreign country. Borders have closed and nobody can get in or out so there's no way for me to return right now. I really miss my parents and brother and am pretty anxious about their situation because our country does very little to stop the spread of the virus. In that sense I'm glad I'm currently in a country where they're taking more precautions because my SO gets to work from home no questions asked. My parents both don't take it as seriously as I think they should and my dad especially has underlying health problems that put him at risk. I'm terrified of a family member getting sick and not being able to see them and be there for them.

No. 535361

>>535355
They are not entirely wrong though. I'm sure if we got the same body count for all major illnesses (cancer, respiratory issues due to contamination, heart issues, obesity) corona would be a joke. It's only dangerous because it's new and it spreads way too fast.
Also the way they count the deaths "due to the virus" bothers me. My ex's dad died and he's one of those deaths accounted due to the virus. He had 2 brain tumors and lung cancer and in December he had 3 months to live according to the doctors. He didn't die because of the virus ffs.

No. 535362

>>535361
It's dangerous because it has the same fatality rate as the Spanish Flu that killed 5% of humanity.

No. 535364

>>535323
Literally why they're called N95 masks. Most masks are less effective than that.

No. 535365

>>535257
Wait she washes hands for 20-30 mins at a time? Definitely a mental illness, reminds me of birds over-plucking when they're stressed. Does she have anything else to do? Play videogames, read a book, draw?

No. 535366

>>535362
There is no way of knowing the fatality rate this early on, the people who can get tested are almost exclusively those who are admitted to hospital and therefore show severe symptoms. It is very possible the number of people who have been infected is extremely high, but the have had mild symptoms or been asymptomatic so the death rate therefore could be very low. We can’t know without anti body testing which needs to happen soon.

No. 535371


No. 535377

>>535366

It's not very low in Italy though, is it? Italy and Spain's experience of it are why most countries shat their pants.

No. 535378

>>535377
As a Spaniard I can tell you why our death rate is so high.
First, almost no one gets tested. I have 2 friends who had it, showed most of the symptoms, called and have been told to stay home and call again only if they felt it was life threatening because they are young with no preexisting conditions. They already recovered but you won't see them neither on the "infected" or "recovered" stats. They estimate the actual infected people are at least 10x more than what we know. Unless you need ICU or you're a famous person or politician you won't get tested.
Second, we have a huge number of elders, and somehow the virus spread like wildfire into retirement homes. It also doesn't help that old people were the first to break the quarantine filling the parks and exposing themselves. We had a 70yo fined because he was found on the streets playing Pokémon GO.
The third one is that Madrid, Barcelona and Valencia have extremely polluted air and lots of people get respiratory issues because of the pollution. Most deaths are from these 3 cities.

No. 535380

>>535377
Yes it’s not low for the reasons I’ve said. According to a lot of models, the majority of the UK has had it, and if that’s true the death rate is extremely small. We can’t know for sure until testing happens which is unfortunately moving along very slowly. My parents and my friends parents work as critical care doctors and have had symptoms and none even among them none of them have been able to get a test and just told to isolate. I suspect the death rate will be very low once we know how many have been infected but there’s a huge gap in the data.

No. 535386

>>535380

I mean low is a subjective term. If it overwhelms your hospitals (and morgues) then it's a disaster even if the victims are "just old people".

No. 535387

>>535336
Some countries allow women fleeing domestic violence to break quarantine, look into it anon it doesn’t sound healthy who the fuck bans crying

No. 535388

>>535347
Why not if public transit is anons only option? I get it’s high risk but… also why are trains running if you’re not allowed to break quarantine? Essential workers I guess?

No. 535390

>>535347
Your sympathy is touching, I'm totally overwhelmed by this kindness.

It's not even the money. I'm just absolutely lovestruck and heartbroken, I feel like my world is collapsing around me. How could someone I valued and financially supported for a year, constantly waited on hand and food and became everything he wanted including adapting to his interests, betray me this way. I also ignored his ex girlfriend's batshit obsession/attempts to antagonise me.

Why are men capable of such intense cruelty? Why are they so unable to see when they are fortunate? His entire family adore me and his grandmother even said she wanted nothing to do with him if he left me. I'm such a good wife, I don't understand this!

Thank you for the support, anon.

No. 535392

>>535390
You financially supported him, waited on him hand and foot, and are surprised that he used you? Uhhh, girl I’m in no way saying you deserve him treating you like shit but if you’re being a doormat then you don’t realize how much of a red flag it is when he walks all over you. Guys like him will take advantage of all your over kindness. Sacrifice yourself and they’ll ask for more. You can do so much better, believe it.

No. 535401

>>535390
Wake up girl, leave and out him to his whole family. The government or some associations must have talked about domestic violence during quarantine so find a plan and leave.

No. 535403

Man the first thread already aged like milk. I bet the anon(s) who insisted it's just like the flu, called everyone who disagreed a doomer and cried about hoarders are now the ones who spam just-as-planned government conspiracies outside of the chosen thread.

No. 535407

>>535251
corona was confirmed airborne. if anon is outside jogging, she can catch it and spread it, especially if "35 cars" have passed by her. she can obviously get it from outside air.

No. 535408

>>535328
you just put a tissue on your nose under the mask.

No. 535410

>>535403
No, hoarders are still fucking annoying, especially the ones shanking old people for toilet paper.

No. 535413

>>535407
No it wasn't. Don't pull any nonsense like that. It's aerosol when victims are being intubated in medical settings, but that is not out in the normal air. It lasts for a couple minutes max in the air and falls to surfaces. That's why the rampant need for disinfections.

No. 535417

>>535407
do you not know how airborne viruses work? if that was true every single person will have coronavirus

No. 535420

Old women using scarves to cover their mouths are starting to annoy me at work. I watch them touch the scarf over and over again, press it to their mouth.. let go of it.. see someone approach and then touch it again. Then they are picking up and putting back groceries after handling their scarf and touching their face countless times. Can they not see how counterproductive that is??

No. 535425

>>535420
i mean my grandma used to do that too, i think it's just an old lady thing when they're sick.

No. 535433

>>535425
It's just so frustrating to watch them use the alcohol solution at the door and then proceed to handle a dirty mouth scarf throughout their shop. We've been told to specifically change our gloves after serving every scarf customer.

No. 535437

>>535433
They should make simple demonstrations and pamphlets like you see in airplanes before lift off. Except instead of demonstrating how to use the oxygen mask and seat belt, they show you how to use a regular mask and gloves.

Such a simple thing, could save so many lives.

No. 535442

Now that healthy people and even children are being more and more reported to have died from corona I hope that rids all the smug fucks spreading that misinfo and taking the virus lightly because they thought that death will only happen to the infirm and old. Stupid fuckers.

No. 535445

>>533909
The cousin's husband was just taken to the hospital, I hoped he would've gotten better already… Now I'm even more nervous, the only thing I can cling to is being glad I never smoked.

No. 535449

>>535403
still stand by my og comment of its no worse than flu and people's overreactions are more detrimental than the actual virus and hoarders can go kys. now it also has an added flavour of police state kek. uk's death rate still hasn't even come near to exceed the death rate of your average flu season. the virus is obvi real but the reactions feel like some sort of conspiracy theory to test limits of modern societies or some other dumb bs.

No. 535460

>>535449
26,885 people died in a single day from this disease, and you're still arguing "People's overreactions are more detrimental than the actual virus" and that it's "no worse than the flu" even though multiple sources have dropped that? Okay, anon.
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1245564515313422337
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/01/coronavirus-kills-1-000-single-day-u-s-double-flu/5100905002/

No. 535463

>>535449
Are you the uk anon that was posting about microchips being implented in us after this?

No. 535473

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>>535463
no kek, that seems bit far fetched also. don't really see state giving up all its liberties after this that easily tho. also people stockpiling crap that they cannot even eat (like perishables) leaving actually vulnerable people like the elderly without, forcing them to go out more to hit up different shops etc is imo more detrimental yes.

>>535460
was not talking about global stats as i am not familiar with them, but strictly bearing in mind UK, the current mortality rate of 2.something k is much less than 17k of a run of the mill flu season is it not?
also 28k beaths mentioned by you are just the number of infections i think? which like isn't a death sentence really.

No. 535476

>>535473
Ntaywrt but the mortality rate for flu is about 0.1% but covid is estimated to be anything between like 1%-4%. This means that more people will die from covid if it continues to spread which is shit because it's quite contagious.

No. 535477

>>535449
The deaths in the US from flu are about 380 daily. We just had 1000 deaths that we know of from coronavirus overnight.
Is 380 deaths more or less than 1000?

No. 535480

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My parents decided to go through with construction work despite everything, and now there’s 5 strangers continuously going in and out of my house. Mom said they’d be using an entrance on the side of the house, that’s a lie and are taking up the main entryway and are right outside my bedroom door. I just heard one of them talking about how he didn’t feel good yesterday.

I’m just going to get shamed as a prissy white woman no matter what I do and I’m so close to calling the city. This is my house and I don’t feel safe.

No. 535482

>>535480
Just call the city and report the construction company.

No. 535483

>>535480
Call the city. What are your parents thinking, giving you early inheritance by covid?

No. 535484

>>535473
> no kek, that seems bit far fetched also. don't really see state giving up all its liberties after this that easily tho. also people stockpiling crap that they cannot even eat (like perishables) leaving actually vulnerable people like the elderly without, forcing them to go out more to hit up different shops etc is imo more detrimental yes.

A simple yes or no would've been enough anon, I didn't ask you about all that

No. 535490

>>535483
They gave these guys 18K and for some reason cant seem to just fucking push it back like everything else. My mom keeps giving me this sob story about how if we don’t do this they might ‘not eat’ but even then why not work something out where they take some of the money now and the rest when they can actually finish the job. I think they just don’t want to deal with only having one shower right now, but there’s only three people in my family. It’s been mildly annoying but it’s not a big deal.

Four men just walked into my house so I think there’s actually six total people. I’m going to fucking scream. The other day they were all talking outside, like 2-3 feet apart and shaking hands. I’m losing my fucking mind.

No. 535511

>>535449
So I was right. Hellweek can'tcome soon enough.

No. 535512

>>535463
My guess is it's ER Doc.

No. 535522

>>535091
construction is considered an essential service, at least in california

No. 535529

>>535204
>if you love Disney, as many of us do
lol, what? there are people who love that company? i mean the fact that "Disney is Evil" is so well-known it's been a joke for decades

No. 535532

>>535386
Seems to me like it doesnt take much to overwhelm hospitals and morgues in 2020. Simply because Hospitals arent prepared and arent properly funded. This has exposed the entire medical industry in a few mere months. And again, it goes back to having to rely on cheap Chinese labor for medical supplies, which clearly is not the answer. Hopefully Everyone will learn from this.

No. 535533

>>535483
>>535482

please don't do this, we don't have a choice and have been listed as essential services. We're literally having general contractors trying to sue our company into oblivion for pulling crews off jobs that they deemed too high risk for their crews. We don't want to be doing this anymore than you do, trust me.

If you insist on reporting someone, report the owners of the job site.

No. 535537

>>535533
It's mental that its deemed essential work, only construction of like hospitals and shit is deemed essential in Scotland where I live which I think is reasonable.

No. 535541

>>535390
lmao even if you leave that asshole, you're gonna launch straight into a relationship with another abuser

No. 535543

>>535537

It's fucking nuts. We weren't at first but a bunch of the big contracting lobbies pushed the state to revise the order. It's so fucked how these massive companies are skullfucking all the little guys and forcing us to risk our crews while pulling off their empolyees. Even our government contracts are doing it.

No. 535546

A meetup group that I usually attend is still planning to meet in a few days. ~20 50+ year old men cramped in a small space. Fucking retarded. Of course, I’m not going.

No. 535549

>>535546
call the cops on them.

No. 535557

At this point, I should know better than to look at what anyone is saying but god I'm so fucking tired of people commenting on articles or tweets sharing COVID info just to smugly say "Actually this is just like the common cold and you're all overreacting, I am very smart"

Like okay then, go contract it and go door-to-door to tell everyone how fine it is. Be sure to shake their hand, too. It's usually people in the US going on about it too when we haven't even hit the peak in any states yet.

No. 535559

feels like every other week the news tells the US we're going to hit peak.and then the next week comes, and they say it again.
i find it hard to trust them right now on anything regarding this, i'm just on mr bones wild corona ride

No. 535565

>>535559
feels like you post shitty bait every couple hours and you must be very bored

No. 535568

>>535529
Yeah…being obsessed with Disney is some white women's whole personality.

No. 535570

>>535565
i haven't posted in the general since like #2? not every anon with an opinion is the same person

No. 535573

>>535570
you're lying and you're bad at it

No. 535577

>>535573
how do i post proof then

No. 535580

File: 1585855568303.png (686.55 KB, 820x460, mumbai.png)

What are your bets on India's infection/death count? It's going to be a real shitshow.

No. 535586

The church across the street has been closed for 2 weeks ongoing now and they still run their fucking casio synthesize bells every 15 minutes from 9am to 9pm that causes massive noise pollution even with all the windows closed, I mean like they must be using the kind of sound system they have in fucking outdoor concerts. I just wrote a very nice letter asking then to STFU since there are current no services there anyway so why are they wasting their own money running such an energy intensive operation? I wouldnt even mind if it was real bells like they have europe but it's this Burger 2000s MIDI generated cancer.

No. 535603

Hi anons, I’ve posted a few times about working in a grocery store in one of the worst states. Today I’ve started to come down with chills, muscle aches and fatigue, horrible stomach pain, mild headache and sore throat and some weird kind of eye soreness? I’m so scared, I don’t have health insurance and can’t afford tests or treatment. I don’t want to die yet there’s so many things I’ve never done and have put off, does Graves’ disease count as being immunocompromised? Typing this is exhausting, all of this has come on so suddenly within a few hours. I hope I’m just being dramatic

No. 535605

>>535603
If you are American I think you could call your ER and let them know your symptoms and ask if theres any sort of testing protocol near you. Some states ARE setting up testing centers and drive throughs. Other than that you probably just gotta wait it out unfortunately. Because hospitals arent gonna let you in if you dont have severe symptoms. Doesnt hurt to call and see though. Worry about the hospital bill later, because believe me when I say there are gonna be a lot of people like you with no insurance that are gonna have to get treatment, and that maybe we can hope there will be a bill waive at some point once all this calms down.

No. 535647

Canadian government is going to release some “difficult news” and to “brace ourselves.” Projected numbers of the people who are going to die or some shit?

What the fuck, anons, my anxiety disorder can’t handle this.

No. 535713

>>535605
Where I am in US it costs $200 to get tested…if they even have the tests and accept you for testing

No. 535725

>>535549
Kek they finally cancelled. Some were pissy about it

No. 535735

>>535442
These cases have mostly happen in the US tho and we all know how unhealthy murricans are.

No. 535736

>>535603
I hope you don't have it. But if you do, it's mild and you get paid leave from work to recover.

I've been suffering endless stomach pains and gas for the last two weeks. My nerves are wrecking me to the point I have to take benadryl to get to sleep at night.

No. 535740

>>535580
I only feel bad for the women.

No. 535741

>>535735
It still affects people of all ages. Dont be a dumbass

No. 535746

This is driving me crazy.
Why didn’t we send help to China before it became a pandemic?
Does China not want to accept help? Or is nobody willing?
We could help Africa when Ebola outbreaks why couldn’t we help them?

No. 535749

There's ongoing construction in my apartment building. Was hoping they'd stop, but nope. They're now going into people's homes and mine is due in a few weeks. Some people even have to use the common bathrooms while theirs are renovated, and I don't get how that's okay in this situation. Shit scared they'll get a sudden order to stop working at a critical moment and I'll end up stuck in a building with no running water.
I know things could be much worse but it's freaking me out. The constant construction noise doesn't help. Or hearing the workers coughing in the hallway. There's nowhere else I could go even under normal circumstances and especially now.
(Nordic country, btw. One that's taking some proper action, but not with this.)

No. 535758

>>535746
Were you not paying attention to the way China downplayed the virus?

No. 535762

>>535746
Sorry but they screwed everyone outside of China over when they decided to keep the spread secret for so long and when they decided not to report accurate numbers.

No. 535764

Im terrified about my grandmother going to a needed cardiologist visit soon. She'll wear a mask and take proper precautions, but I just want to pray even though I'm an atheist. These are some horrible times.

No. 535772

What does the Coronavirus cough sound like?

No. 535776

Arguably the worst time to be craving a cigarette damn

No. 535777

>>535477
This. Time is not a bloody construct.

No. 535778

>>535532
Almost like nobody in charge gives a fuck about health care for peasants but hey look never ending flavours of ice cream!!1!

No. 535779

>>535541
Who hurt you

No. 535791

Today is a milestone. More than a million people infected worldwide.

Half of the total world population (3.9 billion people, whoah) is under quarantine or similar measures of movement restriction.

No. 535796

>>535390
>financially supported for a year, constantly waited on hand and food and became everything he wanted including adapting to his interests
Not to sound rude anon but your relationship sounds like it's been horribly dysfunctional this entire time and youre just now noticing it. Everything you said there is a huge red flag. Please get some help, maybe do some work on yourself before getting into another relationship.

No. 535798

>>535796
basically this. women who do this shit don't realize men who want this don't respect them and men who don't want this, won't want them if they're subservient like this.

No. 535804

>>535532
>This has exposed the entire medical industry in a few mere months.
None of this comes as a surprise to anyone who's been paying attention - the industry's been getting exposed for years. Most countries were supposed to have protocols in place to deal with situations like this "pandemic", yet somehow they're totally caught off guard? Medical staff are having shortages of equipment/can't find what they need? No wonder people are dying in droves: the system itself, is shit.

You have 1st world nations are acting 3rd world tier. Pathetic people in charge.

No. 535805

>>535603
Sending you positive vibes anon. Eat lots of soup, drink lots of juice/water. When I got really sick about all I had stomach for was salad and yogurt. Stay hydrated.

No. 535807

>>535559
Don't express skepticism or disbelief anon, you'll rile the coofers.

No. 535808

>>535804
The industry's focus up until now was turning as many white people as possible into opiate addicts.

Opiates bring in money, preparation for pandemics drain money.

Capitalist healthcare prioritizes capital, not healthcare. People being shocked that capitalism doesn't prioritize lives are funny.

No. 535809

>>535366
We'll never really know given how faulty the test is. Then there's China doing CT scans only. How can you draw reliable stats from that? Why shouldn't China's data be excluded altogether with the governments track record >>535216? So far the worst hit countries besides China and the US, is Italy, and this is what their medical leaders have said >>532649. It's mostly elderly dying, hence the high fatality rate there.

No. 535810

>>535390
Some men are just total cunts, anon. You've got to learn how to avoid them. Dropping your dating apps are a start.

No. 535811

>>535808
>The industry's focus up until now was turning as many white people as possible into opiate addicts.
Well if that wasn't their intention they definitely did a good job killing people. I heard the number of deaths from opioid overdose in the US was equal to a 9/11 every week, so what 3,000? But the industry cares about your life and just wants to save everyone guise.

No. 535812

>>535810
Ew as if I'd ever use a dating app. We met in person like a normal. I don't actively seek out relationships, we were just friends and I fell hard

No. 535813

>>535378
>we have a huge number of elders
Spain's the same as Italy then.
>Madrid, Barcelona and Valencia have extremely polluted air and lots of people get respiratory issues because of the pollution.
I think this article about Italy >>532649 also mentions the bad air quality and how the province with the most "infections" and deaths, also has the worst pollution - same with China if I'm not mistaken. That can't be a coincidence. Not saying this virus isn't real, just that people are falling ill from many things, Covid being one of many factors.

No. 535815

>>535813
Covid is a respiratory disease so yes… the air pollution plays a factor in it because it weakens the lungs. Covid is still the cause of them falling ill though… they're just worse off because of the pollution

No. 535816

>>535815
Yes but nobody's proven the test works as it should >>532635, or that all these people are actually being diagnosed correctly. I'm sure there's medical error all over the place, especially in the US.

Everything I've read about the testing method leaves more questions than answers. If I have to I'll post what the CDC said about it because they didn't sound too sure either. We can waffle on about how many people might have died from the virus but with such faulty testing methods, everyone's just pissing in the wind guessing about mortality rates.

No. 535820

>>535816
Wear your masks, wear your gloves, wash your hands, don't trust your government. I don't know why that's so hard for some people.

No. 535821

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No. 535827

>>535741
It affects all ages but everywhere else in the world most if not all kids are safe. Americans are unhealthy as fuck so its not surprising even their youngest ones have a shit immune system

No. 535833

>>535815
Don't bother, that anon is hellbent on thinking italy only has 3 deaths and the tests are completely useless because 3% of the results are wrong.

No. 535834

>>535815
>Covid is a respiratory disease
I believe it was researchers in China who made the claim that the number one symptom of Covid is pneumonia. Well roughly 300,000 people die from pneumonia in China every year, and now suddenly it's the virus causing this? I don't think so. And whaddya know their only method of testing for the virus is doing a CT scan of the lungs to check for…pneumonia, like that's worth fuck all. Information coming out of there is worthless, and if it's directly from the dictatorship, it can be dismissed immediately.
>>535827
American's health and healthcare system sucking balls is also another important variable in this whole mess.

No. 535836

>>535833
>3% of the results are wrong
Did you pull that from the CDC literature because I didn't see it. I'll gladly quote it the next thread.

No. 535840

>>535833
If you weren't being disingenuous you would've mentioned the source of that figure >>528674. Anon was quoting from the article. You didn't that's why you got it wrong lol.

No. 535841

>>535834
>dictatorship
sic semper tyrannis as they say.

No. 535855

Ok so COVID-19 is not causing any of these deaths and all these people who died just randomly decided to die at the same time to the point of completely overwhelming the health system that usually manages to deal just fine with the numerous flu and pneumonia cases every year. How does this make any sense. Someone schizopill me on this

No. 535859

>>535834
ntaywrt but pneumonia is a complication of covid. Pneumonia is also a complication of the flu and other respiratory infections.
Back in December China started seeing more and more cases of pneumonia, much more than they usually would have, that's when they started investigating further and discovered it was covid that was causing these extra cases of pneumonia.

CT scan isn't the best diagnostic methodology but by using CT they were able to quickly work out how many additional cases of pneumonia/lung damage they were seeing so it's more like a screening test rather than diagnostic. Until we have antibody testing we really don't know how many people who are infected.

No. 535869

>>535390
>>535796
Thank you for responding kindly to her and offering sound advice.

I figured the real issue wasn’t money, but unfortunately I can’t help with the other. When you’re in that desperate state, nothing eases the hurt except the person who caused it. It’s some kind of trauma bonding codependent horseshit, and I know how bad it can be.

One day Anon, you’ll get mad- you’ll see how shit he’s been, and you’ll get mad instead of sad, and it’s so so much better, and your life gets so much better. I hope it comes soon.

No. 535914

>>535869

betrayed Anon here, thank you

No. 535924

Guys, help.
So I'm feeling absolutely fine and okay, it doesn't seem like I have any kind of a cold, but it feels like there's a hair or some similar shit stuck at the right side of the back of my palate / throat, where I guess the tonsil are.
I mean, I tend to have problems with that spot in my throat, sometimes I get mild tonsil stones there, but I've never experienced this annoying sensation of something being stuck there. And my palate is slightly orange.
Should I be scared?

No. 536110

>>535603
You absolutely have it anon. I got the exact same thing, down to the eye soreness. I've probably been out as much as you because of an essential job and getting items for my family.

I've read that you might not be eating, drinking, or sleeping enough and you need to be taking a multivitamin. A lot of it comes down to poor nutrition and hydration and it'll hit you with those all at once if you're off in one of those areas.

Don't be scared of it. I fought it off once I got my vitamins up and started eating and drinking regularly. Remember not to "sleep it off" if you feel really bad because you'll wake up feeling worse and with a terrible headache and usually body pains. Hydrate, eat something good for you, (consider something like bone broth chicken soup) and take some anti-viral vitamins.

No. 536314

I complained here about someone in my building coughing constantly as the entered/left my apartment and just found out they should have been self isolating all along due to international travel. Cool. Haven't heard them in a couple days so I hope they're well.

No. 536504

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Anyone else frustrated by family and friends not taking them seriously and dismissing any concerns? I've been following covid since January and trying to warn my loved ones to prepare since February. The shift in perception from "it's just a flu" to "we should wear masks" has been strange to see.
I'm fact, a month ago my own sister made fun of me for stocking up on food and medicine-and now shes saying that she always knew it was going to be a big deal. The thing is shes still taking our immune compromised mother(who is also recovering from another respiratory infection) out to get food because they need to "support restaurants". Anyone else experiencing anything like this? The scenario presented by countries like italy hasnt even begun and people are already getting complicit and cocky. How do people like this survive in the real world?

No. 536578

>>536504
You're assuming everyone who's diagnosed with covid is not being misdiagnosed >>532635. Also, why anyone's taking a figurehead like POTUS seriously is beyond me.

No. 536580

>>535320
Weren't there supposed to be protocols already in place to deal with such things as pandemics? Why are all these institutions (who're supposed to have prepared well in advance) acting like there were never any plans in place? Weird how unprepared they seem. It's unfair to all the already stressed out medical workers.



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