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A thread dedicated to the worst subsection of the Commentary Community. This community is characterized by contantly infighting, regurgitating the same points that another person had said with little to no new input, cannibalizing one another when they feel like their own reputation is at stake, and moral grandstanding.
Notable Figures:
>HopelessPeaches: A fat, mentally stunted, british woman. Was in a borderline DDLG relationship with LioConvoy before she threw him under the bus. Currently MIA after running from her involvement in the Rosa call as well as the FCK.>LioConvoy: A fat and smelly, Chris Hansen wannabe, scrote who collects mentally damaged women as "daughters" like the Thundercats figurines he has. Was Peaches biggest meatrider before she turned on him. Had a Discord server called "The Senate" where he would drag people in to verbally berate them, until it imploded.>Omnia: Kai's Ex. Has an actual life outside the internet, but can't help but run back to it. Made claims against Kai being abusive and took his cat, along with collecting money for items that probably weren't stolen. Not as active in making videos and mainly posts on Twitter.>Kai/Zae: Volitile manchild that goes off on tirades at any perceived slights, but has recently stepped back from the ACC. Admitts to beating Omnia and tries to say it was mutual.>JustARobot: Autistic grifter sexpest. Has said multiple times that he's stepping back from the ACC, only to come crawling back because none of his other videos get nearly as much traction.Others in the community include: PonderSprocket (well respected, but also has a weird dynamic with her teenage fanbase), HitenMitsuru (pretentious vtuber wannabe, loud and uses big words to sound smart, but cracks when the slightest bit of energy is returned back to her.), NezzieMonster (suicide baits and just like Hiten, can dish it out but can't take it.)
Last Thread:
>Omnia releases her videos going over the Rosa call, this causes such an uproar that it causes Peaches to completely turn tail and run off thr internet.>Peaches accuses LioConvoy of being abusive towards her as a result of the walls closing in around her from her involvement in the Rosa Rey Ramsey call and FCK.>The Senate implodes after Peaches and Lumi's statements. It splits off into several different factions.>A call is leaked with JibzThePig and Lio where it shows how incompetent Lio is at predator hunting because he doesn't understand victim psychology.>Chuuli absolutely goes off on Hiten and her involvement in the Rosa call which causes Hiten to turn tail and temporarily private her twitter.>Akumu continues his coverage on the FCK.>Harley drops a video on the Rosa call and his experience with Peaches. Spends the last half of the video bitching about Omnia.>ZakNotKyle, a Lio meatrider, drops a document alleging that Peaches was the abusive one, not Lio.>Lio drops his explanation where he does address how he's handled certain things, and also reveals he's spent over $8000 on Peaches.>Lio had a cordial conversation with Akumu with JAR as a moderator where he goes more indepth on Peaches.>Hiten drops a document apologizing for the Rosa call and how she's treated Chuuli regarding Fehghost.>Lio confronted Rin on how she handled the FCK and tries to intimidate her once more.>Doodletones exits the community after people keep bringing up his ties to Lio and his diaper fetish.>Lio finally apologizes to Rosa in private for the Senate call.>MaliMalware and Streamline Workshop drop a video on Lio.>Lio is featured in a video of Mr.Enter where he talks about StarGiantProductions. Enter makes a follow up video talking about how badly the Nekopan situation was handled.>Everyone turns against Crystalflame for how he handled the glitchtale victims.>Birdie makes a grand comeback.>Hiten leaves the SCC.>Synnibear03, Birdies roommate, is outed as a creep.>Birdie makes it all about herself and Synni acts manic.>Chuuli drops her videos on how she was treated by Hiten and the rest of the SCC/ACC during the feghost drama.>NezzieMonster throws a bitchfit because of the video that is subsequently deleted.>Synnibear03 makes a horrible response to the claims.>JAR makes a video defending Synnibear03.>It's revealed JAR made the video because he's attracted to Synni. It comes out that's the main reason he defends any women and was a sexpest to multiple women in the ACC.>Kumo is dragged for also trying to defend Synni and subsequently runs.Old Thread:
>>>/snow/1977045(do not post new threads before the old one reaches 1200 posts) No. 2053412
>>2053396it needs to be totally done in. every old guard member has to leave or retire since most the community revolves around them. so streamline harley mali at this point
once birdie leaves it’s gonna be interesting since everyone supported them despite the obvious warning signs
No. 2053516
>>2053438Honestly I don't see these two staying around for long anyway. They're young now but as they get older and the drama cycle repewts, they will grow bored of it and fade away like the others before them. I do agree that both are ridiculous with their support or someone like Birdie who is proving to be just as
toxic as Hopeless Peaches. Peaches mainly scammed one gullible man, Birdie scammed a whole community and I just hope people remember Mali and Harley's support of this con artist.
No. 2054069
>>2053992yea but i think that synni was more of the mature one. sure she was an autismo who did bad things but, i would rather have her back than birdie. birdie is just gonna continue to grift, even if people call them out on it.
synni even paid for birdie's things and birdie had the audacity to say that synni was lazy.
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Dude
No. 2054241
>>2054069This whole drama screams what happens when two
toxic corn addicted people meet well that's the Acc in a nutshell
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Birdie is all tuckered out after a long days worth of crying on xitter. The shock of not being the victim in this situation is hitting them hard. So sad, I hope you all understand. Won’t you please drop an L in chat for Birdie? They’re in a dark headspace right now.
No. 2054367
>>2054363i hope people can recognize that she's a bitch. she may have won the battle against synni but, she will face the wrath of the internet eventually.
press s to spit on birdie
No. 2054377
>>2054367Only a matter of time a
victim status can only get ya to far in life this is all she has her only claim to fame.
(sage your shit) No. 2054427
>>20543801. Learn to sage 2. I think you’re fighting with invisible ghosts because not a single person you’ve mentioned has expressed actual interest in returning to the ACC. There are actual leeches left over trying to use jar to clear their name
cough Lio
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now theyre all gonna start dissociating from jack
dont let these people get away with what theyve done
No. 2055785
>>2055760the difference between birdie and synni is that, birdie was hiding under so many excuses and the art cc was kissing her ass and making her out to be the
victim but, synni got her cat stolen, had so many people send her death threats (some people even drew her getting killed), and was branded as this child molester when, she didn't molest anybody.
synni was a weird person but, chances are that birdie is into the same thing or is even worse than synni.
this situation is a dumpster fire and nobody wants to put out the fire, i'm guessing.
No. 2055788
>>2055664ok. i feel like this is blown out of proportion a little.
while yes, xzae is an abuser and probably did abuse someone again, i don't think that xzae knew that drae was underage. i still think it was her fault for lying about her age to begin with. even if xzae was
abusive.
although, i cannot wait for the art cc to collectively shit their pants and get upset over it. they're gonna virtue signal like their lives depended on it lol
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>>2055664Nobody cares what these niggers are up to.
>>2055727It’s all fun and games until you realize being forever under scrutiny, is part and parcel of declaring yourself the ultimate internet
victim. Most people know
youre full of shit and hamming up the situation to have your attention whore moment. They go along with it because they are also attention whores. But they
know what you are, Lorel and so do we. You’ll have to answer for this forever and it will eclipse any other achievement you may be known for. Hope it was worth it for e-sympathy,
whore.
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>>2055760Birdie is a common evil I’ve unfortunately encountered before. Trust that this hambeast has a litany of sins to her name, and skeletons aplenty in her closet. The result of her being killed off
in the acc would be no different than the sheriff putting down the deranged clown that has been terrorizing the village. Don’t waste your sympathy, it can only end one way for her.
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>>2055819honestly, i think both are bad but, drea is like, super suspect. considering this exchange.
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>>2055664>>2055788>>2055835
>Doc says omnia was talking to drea after she and kai broke up to “help her">Omnia tweets kai is a pedophile one day after doc is released>Omnia makes a poll about the situation to validate her opinion about kai being predatory Can we all agree omnia doesn’t give a fuck about this situation or alleged
victim and is just using this as a one up on kai? I think she would love nothing more for kai to be an actual pedo so she could have something to validate herself with
No. 2055853
>>2055848she's genuinely a sick person. like, i remember a few months ago, one of her friends was outed as a pedo and she knew most of it before it came out.
she has a genuine grudge against kai due to relationship troubles and it's always been more than "an
victim getting back at their abuser" she's a genuine freak.
No. 2055933
>>2055891yea but the difference is that, kai was just some weirdo that (allegedly) did weird stuff while, the FCK was a pedophile ring that has actual
victims.
No. 2055945
>>2055760Your pity is wasted. Both are shit and I used to feel bad for Birdie until I started looking at how much of opportunistic shit-stirrer she is. As for Synni sending porn to the 14 year old, my question is why didn't the 14 year old tell her to stop which leads me to believe that she already looks at porn considering the server she was rolling in and I'm sorry but I really don't see her getting scarred for life by it. Like
>>2055785 said, Synni didn't molest anyone and you have to be brain dead to look at those chats and think that. She was being inappropriate, that much is true but she didn't express sexual interest in the 14 year old herself which is what a molester would've done which Synni didn't.
Also considering that Birdie tried to fuck her ferret, I would not think any animal would be save with her, let alone the cat. There's no problem in saying both are trash fires but the difference is one person is trying to move on while the other one is pity farming.
No. 2056031
>>2056025if synni was a neurotypical, i would agree with your arguement.
keep in mind that synni has autism and she probably didn't know that what she did was wrong. also, the minor like, never really stated to synni that she was uncomfortable with it. not saying that it was the minor's fault but, it's clear that both synni and the minor should've learned each other's boundaries instead of ignoring it.
i think that the internet (and the ACC) doesn't get that there's a difference between inapporopriate actions and predatory behaviours. yes, what synni did is bad but, she's at least somewhat more reedeemable than vii omega or lentotally.
what makes synni a bit more redeemable is the fact that birdie made herself an eternal lolcow and is probably more awful than synni.
breaking into synni's house and taking her cat along with getting your fans riled up to the point of sending death threats towards synni while you victimize yourself on twitter, doesn't reflect the actions of a good person. it just proves that birdie is a backstabbing scumbag.
No. 2056037
>>2056035yea but autism is an individual experience. just because one autist know right from wrong or whatever, doesn't mean that the next autist knows everything about that.
that's why the neurotypical standard of "autistic people should know better" is reductive and kind of ableist. it serves nothing but a virtue signal. like yea what synni did was bad but, you are acting like she knew all along and wanted to get sexual gratification from a minor, and that's not the case.
No. 2056039
>>2056032A retard can tell when to not sext a minor. Even Chris-I raped my mother-Chan can understand that because he was duped by a 13 year old boy catfishing him and he was going for white women.
Synni is more high functioning than Chris, and she still went all cougar and robbing the cradle. Don’t get me wrong, Birdie is a freak. But Synni is the bigger freak as far as we know.
No. 2056040
>>2056038comparing fucking chris chan to synni is like, comparing apples to oranges
at best, synni was a gooner degen who didn't know how to properly talk to anybody.
at worst, chris chan was a person who was trolled to an oblivion to the point where he had sex with his own mom.
this is a painfully retarded comparison and you should feel bad for saying that.
No. 2056041
>>2056040I don’t feel bad because all above that were mentioned are degenerates that have been defended due to their Autism. And like
nonnie said, jar and Synni are clearly high functioning compared to Chris and should know better. While we know birdie isn’t innocent, that doesn’t mean that Synni isn’t a freak.
No. 2056045
>>2056044Also the
>Why didn't the 14 year old tell the adult to stopYet we are supposed to sympathize with the adult in all of this. This thread is always full of white nights
No. 2056049
>>2056040The point missing is hilariously astounding. In fact, you added to it. My point is that if Chris-Chan, someone who is delusional enough to believe he’s Jesus Christ himself but a woman, who has been trolled and manipulated so widespread amongst the internet because of his delusions of grandeur, could not be caught with his pants down with a minor.
That man cannot functionally live on his own, but Synni can. I do not recall an instance where Chris-Chan knew a minor’s age and sent rape porn to them anyway for “feedback” and having them read it out in VC at 3 AM. She isn’t a Harvey Weinstein, but she is a Colleen Ballinger but with assburgers. If she was like Chris-Chan, she would have had been Lolcowed for years and people enabling her delusions to just troll her, then tricking her into sexting a teen. By then, I would be treating her like Chris before he fucked his mom.
But even then, I guarantee the wider commentary community would look at it from that angle and denounce it as sociopathic people and children tricking an Autistic woman to commit a crime.
No. 2056549
>>2056025Some other anons have said half of what I was gonna say but I especially second
>>2056031 bringing up how Synni's neurodivergence played a apart in her being inappropriate with the minor but another thing I wanted to mention is how Synni has admitted that she has been involved with NSFW since she was a child and she more than likely was that 14 year old engaging with older people over porn sharing because it's freaking Discord and that stuff runs rampant in various servers.
It was pointed out in the old thread how Synni's parents more than likely had no idea what she was doing during her school years and there didn't seem to be any adult intervention at all that alerted and informed Synni that what she was doing was wrong and this can also be a thing that can make it even harder for autistic people who are as terminally online as Synni was to understand etiquette in the online space.
I agree with
>>2056031 that Synni is redeemable mainly because after she got caught doing this and got the bandwagon on her, I think it was enough to get the point across that what she did was inappropriate. And we haven't seen her interacting with minors since then, at least that I know of. She genuinely seemed to be trying to move on and live her life while Birdie is the one who again, is pity-farming and 2, she broke the law by breaking into Synni's home and stealing the cat. Synni's name is on the cat's paperwork making the cat legally hers and had she just been smart enough to know that and have an officer with her while showing them the paperwork, the situation would've been dealt with in like 5 minutes. The point being, Birdie is the crappier one here. Synni made one big mistake and has seemed to learn from it as she hasn't repeated the same mistake. Birdie has done all this shit and as crap as both of them are, this is why I think Birdie is worst.
No. 2056586
>>2056549>that Synni is redeemable mainly because after she got caught doing this and got the bandwagon on her6 year age gap and sending SA porn that could teach eno that SA is hot
didn't ask birdie before touching privates
did this multiple times before, especially the bug situation in late 2023
kept talking to eno after she got exposed
didn't return birdie's laptop and other stuff and she leaked stuff from it, invading birdie's privacy
legal arguments are irrelevant, she had to make birdie happy because birdie got through hell
people got cancelled for less
why can't people give this much benefit of the doubt to someone (then) younger and less bad?
I want to uncancel John Bob so much
No. 2056664
>>2056122yeah i agree but drea also lied about her age and admitted to threatening to kill herself if kai left her. and isn’t kai’s mom a suicide
victim? not to defend scrotes but this is really nothing. i also saw that drea cheated on him with a guy who was 26 who knew her when she was 16. so to call kai a pedo and then go date another guy older than him kind of ruins your accusations.
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i don’t remember seeing kai say anything about omnia at all but her need to say that he dates minors in reference to a girl who lied about her age to get on hinge is really telling
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>>2056664moral of the story: drea is a slag that likes older men and we shouldn't really feel bad for her. xzae might've been a weirdo but, knowing that drea lied about her age along with threatening suicide if xzae left, is pretty fucking disgusting considering his past. makes me mad when whores lie about things like this and they come off as the
victim that nobody should criticize and if you do, you're a "
victim blamer". fucking whores.
>>2056669omnia is on a roll. i hope she gets proven massively wrong and everyone starts calling her out again. xzae could do a good thing like, feeding the homeless or curing cancer and she would still tweet up a storm over it. she's a fucking disgrace.
pic related
No. 2056740
>>2056669kai continued to talk to her even after he found out her real age
he's a pedophile and a creep
No. 2056744
>>2056740Fucking thank you. I don't know why people are trying to absolve Kai of shit when he still continued it despite being the adult. Drea might be
toxic as fuck, but that doesn't mean Kai is innocent.
No. 2056768
>>2056762not to mention this entire relationship was online. this is very much a nothing burger
>>2056751the doc says drea “did not remember” when she told kai she was 17, and even admits to lack of context multiple times. he’s a pedophile for continuing to be in a relationship with someone who wasn’t even 17 for a month? kek
No. 2056808
>>2056586>6 year age gap and sending SA porn that could teach eno that SA is hotI don't disagree that this was inappropriate but I still feel like Eno already engages with this stuff anyway because of the server. She was the first one to horny post @ Synni and Synni made the mistake of taking the hook and engaging with it.
>didn't ask birdie before touching privatesBirdie didn't tell her to stop at any time. Had she told Synni to stop touching her and Synni disregarded it and still continued, I would agree here.
>did this multiple times before, especially the bug situation in late 2023Again, no boundary was set. Birdie should've told her to stop but she didn't. Both are coomer degens and this is the result of that, no boundaries being set. The nature of their friendship was coomer.
>kept talking to eno after she got exposedIs this after she got exposed and had videos being made on her or was this before?
>didn't return birdie's laptop and other stuff and she leaked stuff from it, invading birdie's privacyIIRC, this was after Birdie moved out right? If so, it was Birdie's responsibility to pick up her laptop. She doesn't work a job and she had plenty of time to pick it up so I don't care about that. Now Synni going through her stuff and leaking things, I agree that was wrong of her to do.
>legal arguments are irrelevant, she had to make birdie happy because birdie got through hellLegal arguments concerning the cat? Again, don't care, Synni's name is on the documents which means the cat legally belongs to her. If Birdie wanted the cat, she should've put her name as the owner.
As far as legal matters go, I wouldn't fault Birdie if she tried to take legal action against Synni for leaking private information form her computer. But that's about it. She managed to scam retarded children for 10k so I guess that's something.
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>>2056789where is omnia’s proof that kai dates minors or is even a pedophile? she hasn’t even reposted the doc herself nor has she even supported who she seems to believe is the
victim in this situation. drea follows her but she doesn’t follow drea. she just keeps using this situation to harp on kai. she doesn’t actually care because there’s so little in the doc to inference any wrongdoing on kai’s part other than being with a girl who was 17 for not even a month. omnia is spending more time trying to use the situation to brag about how good her life is when the only person who covered this was leighasomething, who is also a lolcow. last we checked kai has fucked off and abandoned his channel. omnia just has this weird obsession with him because if your life was so good why do you feel the need to constantly prove it to strangers on the internet
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Leighasomething streamed about kai. Kai commented on her video, leigha deleted his comments and now they’re arguing on twitter. Kai says he’ll upload a video
No. 2056840
>>2056808>Eno already engages with this stuff anyway because of the serverthat part of the problem. synni's first document in early September held her over the coals for letting minors see porn on the server.
>She [eno] was the first one to horny post @ Synnisynni kept horny posting it for months after eno horny posted synni, this isn't eno's fault
>Birdie didn't tell her to stop at any time. Had she told Synni to stop touching her and Synni disregarded it and still continued, I would agree here.YOU HAVE TO ASK ABOUT TOUCHING BOOBS. imagine if i decided to grope your breasts for no reason without asking and kept doing it
About the did this again in late 2023 with bug it's a reference to talking about rape comic with a 17 year old when synni was 19 and soph the neko guntguarded synni too hard, protecting synni from all consequences.
>Is this [keeping talking to eno] after she got exposed and had videos being made on her or was this before?after birdie made a video on synni and exposed her
>Now Synni going through her stuff and leaking things, I agree that was wrong of her to do.good
>Legal arguments concerning the cat? Again, don't care, Synni's name is on the documents which means the cat legally belongs to her.cat's are disposable. there are so many abandoned cats. let birdie be happy
No. 2056945
>>2056840>synni kept horny posting it for months after eno horny posted synni, this isn't eno's faultAgain, terminally online autistic who has next to no social skills and grew up in an enivronemtn that was fine with and encouraged horny posting (the servers she spent most of her time as a kid into her lase teenhood). Again, I see it as inappropriate but that's just the way it was. No authority figure ever intervened so of course she didn't know better until it was too late.
>YOU HAVE TO ASK ABOUT TOUCHING BOOBS. imagine if i decided to grope your breasts for no reason without asking and kept doing itMe personally? No, but I'm not terminally online (I'm in my 30s, this stuff didn't exist when I was a teenager) and if I had a friend who touched me inappropriately, I would've told them to not to do that. Concerning Birdie and Synni, they are terminally online gooners who horny-posted each other frequently before they met up and became roommates and because Birdie didn't make a boundary to break the online life vs IRL, that is what happened. She should've spoke up but she didn't.
I would understand if we were talking about normal people but Synni and Birdie are not normal people and are as terminally online coomer as they come.
>after birdie made a video on synni and exposed herAlright then, I'll have to look more into this. Just to see what kind of stuff was being said.
>cat's are disposable. there are so many abandoned cats. let birdie be happyPoint still stands. If Birdie wants a cat, she can go get one on her own and actually have her name on the documents which would entitle her to full ownership of the cat. Because doing what she did, just as much as she would've been able to file a claim against Synni for leaking private information on her property, Synni will be able to file a claim on Birdie for breaking-in and theft.
On the by, I'm not a Synni fan or anything, I'm just looking at this with an objective lens. It can't be said enough that both are bad in their own ways.
>>2056901My guess is just that they are autistic and terminally online and they form para-social relationships with the content creators they watch and ACC is no exception. In fact, I think it's much more likely to happen in the art community since many of us artists are introverted, socially awkward, and geeky and so to find people like that online who you enjoy, it can make some people want to get to know the person, some to unhealthily obsessive ways.
No. 2057104
If you go through break ups and the other person is constantly "the bad" one you might want to start to consider whether or not you're the issue. Kai is a volitile manlet, and we all know the reason he didn't want to make a video on this until Leigha did is because he has a much bigger following on YouTube than Twitter and he probably wants to keep it as
hush hush as possible, but now that Leigha has put it on the platform, he has to before his audience has a chance to see it.
>>2056895She had a random creep in her discord, she was not friends with a pedophile.
No. 2057164
>>2057104i agree, and omnia seems to always position herself as the
victim in not only her relationships but her friendships. it actually applies to her more than it does kai. if he’s responding on his youtube account then that’s not keeping it hush hush, that’s his biggest platform compared to twitter?
>>2057104that “random creep” was her friend for two years and he was outed for trying to flirt with a girl he knew was 16. she was friends with a pedophile kek
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>>2057189if omnia has the capacity to say “i didn’t know he was being inappropriate with minors, that’s bad faith”, and then start going on coke rants about how kai is a pedophile for something he ultimately didn’t know with a girl he never met, what is this scandal about? her friend was a pedophile who knew the girl was 16 and flirted anyway, neither did he meet her on a dating app. kai was on a dating app, matched with the girl, and she lied to him up until she was essentially 18, and she went on to call him a groomer and pedo after the fact, alongside omnia. the logic behind these people is retarded kek
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>>2057242with this logic we can still say omnia was friends with a pedophile and she should’ve verified in the two years of time she had to do so. interesting how quick anons are ready to make excuses for omnia as if she hasn’t also been inappropriate with minors. omnia thinks 16 year olds are people she can “relate with” at 22 in reference to those same fanfictions but a girl who lied about her age to her ex boyfriend is where she draws the line kek
No. 2057257
>>2057252Telling a minor to make cringe fanfics about ex is cringe, but not the same as dating a minor
nonnie use your brain pls.
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according to omnia kai’s relationship with drea wasn’t even a relationship, it was an abuse of power. okay, then that same logic applies to the minors as young as 14 who she herself considered her “friends” in her discord server. stupid to even boil this down to a comparison of what is more “cringe” when one of the loudest people in the room is a raging hypocrite.
No. 2057294
>>2057289no one has pointed that out so far. kai hasn’t broken a law. all of this is based of a 50 page, poorly written word document. one of the folders in the drive that’s linked in it is talking about bojack horseman, this couldn’t get any more autistic. i’m not one to defend kai but there are real people who endanger children and this was an idiot who got lied to on a dating app. not a pedophile. if his mom is a suicide
victim i could actually see why he wasn’t quick to leave, because had the drea girl killed herself, he would’ve been blamed for that too.
No. 2057298
>>2057294So instead of being blamed for suicide, get blamed for pedophilia!
- Kai "Big Brain" Weiss
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>>2057300 you have been fighting on this thread for so long I kinda miss the jar/synnii.drama .At least we don’t see their fans schizo posting this bad here. I am gonna leave this here because it gave me a good chuckle
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>>2057302so have you. going to leave this here because this gave me a chuckle as well. her friends that are still in high school. i remember when this thread wasn’t infiltrated by omnia white knights whenever someone pointed out how much of a loser she is.
No. 2057335
>>2057314>>2057315Kai, Maxine,Omnia and the rest of you dick riding retards are annoying and clogging up the thread . Anyone who has a mother that’s alive, zero arrests and isn’t obsessed with their ex is better than all of you
>>2056945I agree with most of you points except for the groping part. Yes everyone’s boundaries are different but I think it’s almost universal that you shouldn’t be touching people like that especially after they express discomfort
No. 2057716
If you're only here to leave a dislike/comment berating me for whatever drama I was involved in from before I deleted my original channel, kindly fuck off.
I'm not a child predator. I haven't tried to molest anybody. I haven't engaged in any sort of pedophile apologia or any grooming. I didn't steal money from anyone. I'm not racist/sexist/ homophobic/transphobic in any way. I didn't threaten to go to someone's house to kill them. I didn't have any sort of sexual or vulgar conversations with any kids. I have not sexually assaulted/abused/harassed anybody. I didn't dox anyone's private information. I didn't harbor any sexual deviants in a discord server for months on end. I didn't withhold information on any predators. I didn't try to spread anti-mask propaganda. I never tried to orbit someone underage and wait until they were 18 to try and hook up with them. I didn't slut shame any grooming victims. I didn't write any fan fictions glorifying adults doing the deed with kids.
Whatever I got myself into, at it's absolute worst, it was simply petty bullshit caused by anger problems mixed with shitty impulse control. It's a fucking school walk compared to what's been done by millions of other youtubers and I'm getting sick and tired of everyone blowing it out of proportion as if I did something deeply sinister and evil.
Right now I simply want to get back into my passion for reviewing works of art and their thematic value while building an audience. I'm not making videos about anything else at the moment, so you have no reason to be here except to demonize me as you've already wrapped up so much ego in viciously attacking me or spreading hatred for me. You can bring up past controversies all you want, but I've been around long enough to know exactly what this is.
Don't try to make this about the ACTUALLY bad stuff I got myself into in 2022 or 2023 (things that have already been dealt with and answered for). This is another case of you autistic freaks trying to terrorize me off the internet because you were offended by something I said about Disney Star Wars, The Last Of Us Part 2, Steven Universe, Nostalgia Critic, Velma, The Disney Live Action Remakes, Modern Simpsons, MLP G5, Discord's character assassination at the end of MLP G4, Space Jam 2, Netflix's stance on endorsing CP, or the tone in which I said it. It's been that way for almost 10 years, so I have no reason to believe it's any different now.
Also, don't try to make any jokes about how I need to get a real job or a life or touch grass, because I have all three of those things covered. I have an irl job where I work outdoors for 25 to 30 hours a week. And unlike you fat losers who gain weight while using twitter/discord/bluesky as a substitute for actual human contact all day, I actually have a life outside of the internet. I've been cleaning the house, tending to the dogs, running errands, paying bills, helping out family, and living independently now that both of my parents are gone. So yeah, I have a life, a job, and I touch plenty of grass. Do you?
One more thing. If you're still affiliating with Lio Convoy or any of the old Senate after everything they were exposed for since the start of the year, I have no reason to listen to you. That shit was 100 times worse than anything I did with those alts.
After everything he was exposed for since the start of the year, I don’t want him to save my ass. I’d rather trust a blind deaf monkey with no arms and no legs with my life than him.(newfag)
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>>2057725You’re right on the money. A YouTube channel just posted this confirming that Zaid is Diaz Station kek
No. 2057798
>>2057335>I agree with most of you points except for the groping part. Yes everyone’s boundaries are different but I think it’s almost universal that you shouldn’t be touching people like that especially after they express discomfortAs I explained, I totally agree that it should be common sense to not grope your friends, no normal person does this at all (I'm sure most of us here don't do that). But again, Synni and Birdie's friendship was no normal and was as terminally online as they come. It's been a minute since I've seen their DMs back when they were friends but I remember them being so horny in nature that I just can't be surprised (no matter how gross) their IRL friendship turned out, especially when Birdie didn't ask or demand for her to stop. It's assumed that they more than likely were hooking up as well. All this could've been avoided if Birdie told Synni to cut it out and that she doesn't like being touched but she didn't and Synni's coom-btained, terminally online autistic self just didn't pick up on Birdie's coyness as a means of not being fine with it.
This is why many of us have said multiple times that boundaries must be firmly established. Their friendship was anything but normal.
No. 2058196
>>2058159That's what he said before he used those alts to poorly hide
If it was anyone else I would agree with you but this is Zaid
No. 2058747
>>2057716Some people might be thinking "but you were in Senate, you were in the Rosa call!".
The reason I was with the Senate for so long was because they had me fooled. I truly believed they were a genuine group that cared about eliminating evil people from the community while helping their
victims. I will full heartedly admit I was wrong about them: they were just a bunch of foul sadists who received repulsive pleasure from the suffering of vulnerable individuals. And I cannot apologize enough for affiliating with them for as long as I did, I never would've joined them if I knew the truth.
Of course, don't think this means every single person they covered is off the hook. I still remember all the vile disgusting things a select few of them did over the last couple of years. And when the time is right, I'm gonna make sure everyone knows about it.
(namefagging) No. 2058775
>>2058745I agree, he's only 19 and has his whole life ahead of him and he shouldn't be wasting it on internet drama when the players involved are going to hand wave it away like they've been doing for years. I don't believe for a second that Nezzie "forgot" a lot of the things being brought up. I get it's been a long time now and it's normal to experience some memory loss of certain things but there's just something very non genuine about her, especially with how she remembered certain things that played in her favor. But what more can be done about it? Ponder washed her hands of it, Nezzie will always always fall back on her (convenient) amnesia and Doodletones went into hidding. And honestly the drama is just not that big or frankly important. Minors saw porn on a Discord server, I'm sorry but that is pretty much the norm these days unfortunately and most people in the scene are desensitized to not take it seriously anymore unless it really does escalate to where an adult is trying to overtly groom a minor.
He just needs to move on now and focus on his present.
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>>2061504Genuinely such a shit take you had me going there for a second nona. it’s good to know the spirit of trolling hasn’t left this place yet. I give it 6/10 for originality
No. 2061733
Queenofmean's latest obsession is dickriding a Rick and Morty porn artist named thankyouliebe, who was accused by Buttons of rape and kidnapping.
Since Buttons is the one making the accusation, she's latched onto it. She's vague about the situation in her most recent drama video but I knew thankyouliebe irl and it was clear to me what she's talking about.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYVRIqYBEKhUkMGMIxfeeRojQ8ZDED3mCln8Iuy14A0This is the second time that Buttons has taken someone to court only to have the charges dropped. Thankyouliebe is a nobody but I felt like this was relevant considering Buttons and Queenofmean came up in last thread.
No. 2061752
>>2061750Buttons was in the ACC and dated LioConvoy when she was 18, took him to court over sexual abuse, and lost, resulting in Buttons becoming a punching bag for LioConvoy and The Senate.
Thankyouliebe is an artist but I don't think she's in the ACC.
No. 2061755
>>2061751My theory is the reason why so many serious accusations get thrown out of the window is because stupid shit like their labels. If these were normal people making accusations then they’d be a lot more credible.
>>2061752I don’t doubt the fact that Lio is being a fucking freak around those girls but like I said, they’re mentally unstable weirdos with their “uwu pronouns and mental illnesses” so the credibility is non existent.
No. 2061758
>>2061755Ayrt, I agree. I can't fault Buttons for reacting like she did with LioConvoy because she was still barely an adult, but at this point she has no excuse.
Lio seems to really like surrounding himself with mentally ill girls.
No. 2061798
>>2061755> My theory is the reason why so many serious accusations get thrown out of the window is because stupid shit like their labelsCan you give an example? Because every accusation I’ve seen in at least the past 7 years is treated at face value, for better or for worse.
>>2061733Finished reading the doc. It is essentially this person (buttons) describing a series of very dumb actions they took while in a dumpster fire relationship. They genuinely frame the outcome of their bad choices as them being victimized, and woobify themself to a staggering degree. I’m not kidding, this person such a retard it’s stunning. There’s a serious issue with dumb bitches who think that the fallout from their dumb choices makes them
victims, when their actions are the equivalent of stepping on a garden hoe and smacking themselves in the face with it. This person is 26 and roleplaying that they’re a kawaii desu system while they cycle in and out of white trash relationships. Let that sink in. 26 years old, and they think it’s other people’s fault when they experience natural consequences. That’s not something to be proud of. I’m getting sick of bitches like this making it the world’s problem that they’re dysfunctional. She needs to grow the fuck up.
>>2061754This is a fucking lie or seriously exaggerated. Nobody could ever go through this and come out on the other end still believing in gender special bullshit. How could you be this fucking retarded. It’s baffling. They need a swift kick to the ass. For being an idiot, and for the time I can never get back scrolling through their pathetic little doc of ‘evidence’
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>>2061798I don’t care about what happened during their relationship but more of what happened after. If there is truly an active case then I’ll wait for more details to come out before I make a solid statement but I’m leaning towards this person’s side because of the block evading and harassment she’s getting from her ex bf. That and the fact that this dudes mugshot is public and shows that he has a sexual assault charge ( mods please don’t ban me this is part of the google doc evidence posted above so I don’t think it counts as doxxing)
No. 2065033
>>2064755I think you're right and unlike the last few times when he got "canceled", he had his friends in the ACC to help save his ass but since he burned all his bridges, he has no one left who would want to help him which further contributes to how he can't come back burying this under the rug like he used to do.
With as terminally online as he was exhibiting, I feel like he'll be back sometime soon, he knows that the internet tends to forget as time goes by, look at the Tobi drama as a lot of people have started forgetting about what that drama was about but she did decide to not come back and it seems to have worked for her so maybe it can do the same for him as well.
No. 2065282
>>2065261From what I remember Ponder looked into it and found out the niece doesn't exist so it was bs. And that's coming from one of the artists who tried to actively avoid him at vidcon in 23-24.
On another note, idk if he fits the whole ACC label but anyone else following the whole dans burst studios guy? Shits too wild to be real.
No. 2065656
>>2065292Oh god
nonnie, I think you need your glasses wiped and your ears checked. JAR was nothing but a retard, he never had a point that wasn't first made by someone else he was parroting, a sex-pest gooner that couldn't keep it in his pants 5 seconds to wonder if people he was barking at were of appropriate age in a community bursting with minors, and on top of that had a holier-than-thou ego as if he wasn't just an autistic slug man. He was absolutely that bad, no leeway for retarded moids.
No. 2066077
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Diapertones returned to Twitter to have a “feel bad for me” moment cuz one of Akumu’s videos went down. Honestly I can only imagine what these therapy sessions are like and how the conversations go, assuming any of it is real because Doodle has constantly broken hiatus whenever possible
No. 2066112
>>2066077Just got word from your
therapist? Fuck OFFFFF, unless therapist is code for dealer or something this bitch is F5ing more than one page.
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>>2066077I believe this was a genuine therapy session like I believe the moon is made of cheese. No therapist is gonna watch akumu's hours long dissections of the ACC. Most therapists will sit there and tell you they don't wanna hear all sides they only give a shit about yours and how you felt about it. I'm guessing this is a discord buddy that is acting as a therapist.
No. 2066289
>>2066077I’ve known pathological autistic liars who say shit just like this. It’s how you can tell they’re not only a liar, but engage in it excessively.
Example: ‘tarot seems interesting. I might get a reading some day’ ‘oh yeah tarot I know what that is. I’ve been meaning to talk to my psychic about getting one” and so forth you get the deal. As if you have ‘a psychic’ on call, as though they’re a personal possession like a ‘fork’ or a ‘spoon’ or something you use, instead of real fucking human being. What a greater admission of your savant status, than a Freudian slip like that?
No. 2066651
>>2066633Doodletones coming back is just more proof that he doesn’t give a fuck about
victims. The FCK
victims specifically told him that leaving his platform and staying offline was part of the agreement and he couldn’t even stay away for a year at least. He has no future and lives off his grandma’s social security checks like a NEET, and is trying to convince us that his therapist is actually watching YouTube drama to help out lol
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Sorry to double post but I just noticed Birdie's must be up next on the chopping block because all her friends are disavowing her. I guess she was still talking to/in front of minors inappropriately, but her friends are also leaking a bunch of other shit about Birdie just being a lil shit iirc. For example ss of
Birdie being a dick to her younger sister back when she lived at home etc.
No. 2070190
>>2070160The heck are you on ofc I'm not a degenerate but that's like zero to
100
No. 2070378
>>2070160This reads like you just hate Enla and want to open a dialogue about a literal nobody.
The fetishes aren't the problem, it's degenerates who have them that are. Enla hasn't done anything that screams cow, and that doesn't include weird fanfiction, so talking about her seems pointless. At least Doodletones had a freaky rp he had in public, and then vehemently tried to deny that such a fetish ever existed on top of sucking off other cows.
No. 2070633
Pastarru, a popular animator known for his animation memes has been exposed for allegedly stalking/grooming underage fans.
Doc here:
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/16qfM2h83dL4EDW-iKeiAXRoaIZxuu795Xl7hFa0ku2g/mobilebasicFair warning that the document borders on unreadable at times. The most prominent point of the doc is Pastarru's tendency to discuss his OCs genitals, "breeding", and other fetish-y material with friends/ discord members, who were mostly, if not all minors. It's pretty funny how similar this is to what Synnibear ended up getting shafted for. Pastarru previously announced he was "taking a break" for "no particular reason" around the time Synni was getting her lashings so he must have known he was next lmfao
No. 2074272
>>2074221It seems like it is, atleast just for now. Unless JAR makes a response to all his shit, or god forbid, Peaches and Shannon pop back up, things have majorly quieted down. Lio is back to doing toy reviews, Streamline, Mali, and Ponder's uploads are very infrequent, Omnia has said she's planning on uploading something sometime soon but she seems to be preoccupied with real life and a new relationship, Kai has said the same thing but considering he deleted his Lio vids, I can't imagine him going back to ACC, Doodletones is gone, Hiten and Nezzie both rage quit, and Harley is moreso a regular CC dude now. The only one really active from the old gaurd is Chuuli but she's on a entirely new channel.
I can't see too much more happening as far as the infighting/cannibalizing that the ACC was doing before now that all the major players are gone.
Good Riddance kek.
No. 2074383
>>2074272Yeah you pretty much got it, it really does seem like everyone has more or less moved on though there has been rumor that Shannon actually has come back on a true crime channel with her boyfriend called Dreading but again, it's just a rumor. It seems like the ACC has come to a close and it's probably for the best. It's really does seem that when regular CC channels like Cope & Seethe, Chudlogic, Stardust, and Turkey Tom (to name a few) made video coverage on the dramas that were happening, this was the impact that made the ACC start to fall back. Something tells me that if this hadn't had happened, the dramas would've still continued to even now. So who knew that all it took was coverage from bigger CC channels to disband the ACC.
>Unless JAR makes a response to all his shitHonestly I feel like he's going to do what he always does where he's going to wait a good long while before he makes a video trying to redeem himself. He'll probably come back sometime in February or March and continue making his media commentary videos and then come early summer, he'll make a video addressing his drama and use the excuse "Well, people were wanting me to talk about it" (kek). With the whole Synnibear ties, it probably may work in his favor since people have come to find that Birdie is just as awful and really did scam a bunch of people out of a shit ton of money that she's been wasting on toys ala Chris Chan.
I also see Doodletones trying to come back unless he really does try to actually get a life.
Aside from that, I remember that Thumin was keeping up to date in Leigha Something's streams that she was in the middle of making her own video talking about the ACC but I have a feeling she decided to drop it since the scene is pretty much dead so it would be pointless.
But I dunno, I feel like we'll just a see a new community pop up in time. Remember that the ACC was originally the DeviantART Ranting community lol.
No. 2074723
>>2074383at this point the only thread that's left of the ACC is the FCK stuff which is supposed to be wrapped up by Akumu or Thumin. I could be remembering things wrong though or they may have discarded the notion itself considering how much time has passed.
course, the real world may be dragging their attention too so it is anyone's guess at this point.
No. 2074769
>>2074272Hate to say it, but I'm gonna miss watching the dumpster fire. It used to be sweet schadenfreude seeing people rip apart Creepshow and Peaches, it was like watching old high-school bullies go down.
>>2074383I can see it now "People tried to take me down in the Synnibear drama, but I survived! Just like I survived the Heathers, and the Creepshow Art situation, and the Peaches drama!" He loves to pat himself on the back any time he doesn't take the hint and leave.
No. 2074783
>>2074723>Akumu or ThuminOh yeah I forgot that Akumu was making his own long videos on the ACC. According to one of his last videos, he's still working on his long expose' video and that it's been taking him a while because of his personal life (and I'm sure the holiday seasons). I think he still intends to release that video since he seemed dead set on exposing the ACC/FCK stuff and he doesn't seem like he wants to move on from it until that video is finished and released, at least that's what he said to Cope and Seethe during his last interview with him.
Thumin, I feel like she probably has more important things going on in her life and that's why I feel like she more than likely dropped the video once everything died down and JAR got effectively "cancelled" (at least at this time). But who knows, maybe she will still release the video in the next few months and turn it into a retrospective.
>course, the real world may be dragging their attention too so it is anyone's guess at this point.True, outside of JAR and PonderSprocket, most of the ACC were relatively young and are getting older and are more than likely having more IRL responsibilities that are going to interfere with this content and they'll either have to limit it or stop it altogether and it seems like most have chosen the latter.
>>2074769>Hate to say it, but I'm gonna miss watching the dumpster fire. It used to be sweet schadenfreude seeing people rip apart Creepshow and Peaches, it was like watching old high-school bullies go down.Honestly me too. I mean granted, I never took a lot of these dramas seriously because at the end of the day it's all just internet stuff and unless the incidents slipped into real life, it didn't seem as serious. But it made for some good background noise when working on stuff and I'm going to miss that lol.
>I can see it now "People tried to take me down in the Synnibear drama, but I survived! Just like I survived the Heathers, and the Creepshow Art situation, and the Peaches drama!"I'm gagging at how accurate this is kek. Yeah he's totally going to sniff his own farts when he tries to come back and I just hope that someone calls his ass out. I think it might be enough for Thumin to get her video out on him and set the record straight involving his shit.
It just seems likely because there's no one left in the ACC who is active anymore and I don't think Lio is going to want to stick his head back into the ACC so in theory it would be easy for JAR to come back if he actually waits long enough and people have forgotten about the Synnibear drama which seems like it's almost there.
But if JAR knows what's best for him, he just needs to shut up and just do what Manga Kamen did which is just be a media commentary channel and that's it.
No. 2075946
>>2075781I get the piñata you’re swinging at here. Sometimes things don’t quite hit the same and others lose your interest outright. Haven’t touched Just Stop’s content since he returned to analysis videos, long before his invasive blunder.
If it ain’t that then people getting their ass blasted off the website for being scum and tainting the viewing experience going forwards. Besides, what would even be comparable to that whole fiasco? Best we get nowadays is a random exposure or retrospective like with Streamline Workshop’s most recent video.
(sage your shit ) No. 2075994
>>2075946AYRT, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. It feels so dumb to admit that but it's just how I feel and there's been a bit of a void now for me whenever I'm working on some art and craving some background noise that isn't music, a show, or a video essay on a hobby interest. I still remember the Sonic93 vs Melody drama and as batshit as Sonic93 turned out to be (saying this as someone who didn't mind her own video response series on AkaiDalia way back), the videos being made on her were entertaining background noise kek.
>Just StopPersonally for me, Just Stop's video are a tad too long for me and I usually preferred other content creators who covered the same topics that he did over him.
>If it ain’t that then people getting their ass blasted off the website for being scum and tainting the viewing experience going forwards. Besides, what would even be comparable to that whole fiasco? Best we get nowadays is a random exposure or retrospective like with Streamline Workshop’s most recent video.Right. I mean the only ACC drama that I would actively avoid are the ones centered around 13-16 year olds because as someone in their early 30s, I just can not relate to that and would rather not know about what's going on in there. Plus the drama was usually ignorant with the whole so and so groomed me when the other person in question is either the same age or a year or two older than them like with the Birdie & Kittydog drama. I just have no time for that personally.
It can't stay quiet forever though and I'm sure we'll get something whether it's one of the oldies or we see some newbies, hopefully ones in their 20s and are not teenagers or middle schoolers lol.
No. 2075996
>>2075974>I always enjoyed it for the fact that I could look at it and say "Thank fucking god that's not me."Yeah same. I just looked at the content as just entertainment fodder and that when all was said and done, most of the players involved would be fine and all they'd need to do is log off for awhile. There were definitely some tense moments like the first Spoctor drama when Pentagrin & Stories accused him of being a groomer and the Lio Convoy stuff with Minty (though still funny as fuck that his internet "daughters" all backstabbed him), most of the drama was nothing too life ruining and I just hope we see a little revival of this petty but entertaining contained drama.
>I would almost take anyone back at this point, save for Jar. Jar can eat rocks.Same. Wouldn't mind a new Ponder Sprocket video because sure she may have a been a little up herself but her content was good background noise. Fuck I'd even take Pentagrin at this point kek. I agree about JAR though, he can stay away because his ACC content was nothing but bottom feeder tier crap and he really didn't add anything new and instead would only huff his farts about how he's so smart and everyone in the drama he was covering is dumb, boring.
But seriously it feels like art commentary is in a slump in general, It's getting harder to even find storytime speedpaint content, I liked listening to those and sure there are still some that pop up here and there but nowhere near as much like there in 2016-2023. I have a feeling that this kinda stuff is more common on TikTok now but I'd really rather not get on that brainrot app.
No. 2076042
>>2075994KEK I was just about to say I still listen to sonic93's blowout drama with melody! I miss when people were just retards on the internet and every video wasn't about some new rando being a sexpest. I think part of the reason you don't see it so much is the younger Gen keep spouting "cringe culture is dead!!1!" and only report on what they consider
problematic. It isnt't. Feed me cringey artist drama so I can draw please. Give me overgrown fangirls having a sperg fest over their fav. Also I'm so sick to death of art commentary jumping on Tiktok art community because they shit on some artist hiding lack of skill behind "it's muh style".
>>2075996Ponder insisted she was gonna keep making more art centric content less commentary shit, which at this point I get and would love to watch from her, but pretty sure the lio/peaches/FCK drama scared her off.
My need for dumb artists online is so desperate that I started watching some slop content creator talk about Twitter artists copying each other and scamming. That and rewatching magicmush's rundown of like Dobson and Schmorki.
No. 2076133
>>2076042>KEK I was just about to say I still listen to sonic93's blowout drama with melody!Fucking yes kek Glad it's not just me, someone even made a playlist full of the response videos made about the situation which makes it easy listening lol.And I agree, I miss when the drama was about art sperging over fangirl shit or tracers and so on. The whole "cringe culture is dead" thing is such a mad cope, no the fuck it isn't. There are things out there that still make us cringe, it doesn't make the thing bad and rather, it makes life strangely interesting lol.
I think you're right that the current ACC (well at least from 2020 to present) are just the zoomers who were kids during the 2010s and thinking that cringe culture was bad and unfair as they didn't have the nuance that us millennials had to not take the cringe stuff seriously. Most of us weren't necessarily laughing at the the people themselves, just the situations unless the person was that ridiculous. And the whole moral-stuff of chasing after predators and groomers is just draining, especially when you have these younger zoomers act on impulse and accuse it towards a situation that it just isn't happening in. I just miss when people just sperged out, I miss when the context of the content was not all that serious.
>Also I'm so sick to death of art commentary jumping on Tiktok art community because they shit on some artist hiding lack of skill behind "it's muh style".Same, I've seen this trend pop up and I tried watching a couple of these videos but I just couldn't vibe with it, I found it boring and most of the "muh style" people are teenagers who don't know any better and frankly they will in time otherwise they just would've turned into fodder for the cringe vacuum lol
>Ponder insisted she was gonna keep making more art centric content less commentary shit, which at this point I get and would love to watch from her, but pretty sure the lio/peaches/FCK drama scared her off. Yeah I remember her saying that and I understand where she's coming from as well because she was in the neck of a few big art dramas but damn it she was good at it even if the targets were easy because she had common sense and wasn't some naive teenager. I support her decision but I can't lie, I miss her stuff because she was one of the better ones, her videos on the Sashley stuff was an awesome listen along. Akumu's big dislike of her is a bit funny because he really didn't make himself all that likable back during those days so he shouldn't have been surprised when most people, including Ponder herself ignored him (though I totally support him on Nezzie & Doodle's bullshit).
But yeah, it does seem like the Lio/Peaches/FCK stuff put the fear of god in her and got her to quit and it just makes me wish that she never had joined the FCK at all though that's a wishful thought since it seemed like most of the active ACC were in that server. It just sucks because had she not joined it, she probably would still be making more videos today.
>My need for dumb artists online is so desperate that I started watching some slop content creator talk about Twitter artists copying each other and scamming.Yeah I'm on the verge of doing that myself kek. I think the last one I attempted in terms of Twitter art drama was the drama surrounding an artist named Pumpkin The Genetlemen and how he makes gross coomer art and groomed a minor (though I think it was found that this wasn't true, I don't remember).
At this point, I'm open to seeing a resurgence of Sonic OC & Mary-Sue rants but something tells me those are a thing of the past now.
>Magicmush's contentOh nice, I watch him too. Though for me, I recently re-watched Cecil McFly's coverage of the ACC lol
No. 2076503
>>2076133ntayrt but I went back and rewatched a reupload of the AkaiDalia rant series from Sonic93 and it's crazy how most of the criticism just amounted to "you're cringe, stop being cringe." and that started an entire smear campaign against this girl that just drew shitty sonic pictures that she liked in her own bubble.
Makes for good background noise still, though.
No. 2076550
>>2076317Lmao awful, just awful lol
>>2076503Oh for sure, those Sonic93 videos on AkaiDalia aged like milk in terms of quality because even though Akai's depiction of Sonic was so very jarring to the point where people just called him "Sonic the Rapehog", Akai mostly kept the stuff to herself in her own bubble and wasn't spamming it in Sonic groups or anything like that.
Plus I can't help but feel that Sonic93 did have a bit of envy towards Akai's art skills because frog-leg anatomy aside, Akai's stuff wasn't actually all that bad from the legs up and compared to some of the other controversial Sonic artists, her stuff actually looked somewhat decent and I can't help but feel like that yanked Sonic93's chain as well.
But I agree that despite the spoiled milk quality of the videos, they still make for some good nostalgic background noise and she did like 9 parts (IIRC) so you're fed for awhile lol.
It's just funny how years later Sonic93 found herself in her own drama that was related to crazy fangirlism but hers was worse because she literally went off on a 15 year old teenager as a woman in her mid 20s and only further dug her own grave when she didn't listen to Dumbsville who advised her to not make more videos about it. Last I checked, Akai didn't rage out on anyone who criticized Sonic kek.
>>2076526Same. It's petty and cringe but it was lighthearted (for the watcher lol) and it's the kinda stuff I want to see as well. Something that's not serious, that's not about grooming or pedo accusations, just lighthearted petty fandom stuff.
>Akai was a teenagerI don't think Akai was a teenager, I'm pretty sure she was born in 1990. I can't remember how far back Akai's drama went because I personally discovered her after she stopped doing her Sonadow comic and she was in her early 20s by then. Apparently she was a lot more volatile before she mellowed out around this time so she probably was more of a fanbrat back in her earlier days.
Speaking of videos, anyone remember the video on her that was made by a YouTuber named IDKY? I loved that response video but she ended up deleting her channel and it wasn't archived which is a shame.
Also since AkaiDalia was mentioned, anyone remember the Truth Lely Gaia drama? She was similar to Akai only she was obsessed with Shadow lol.
No. 2076662
>>2076661I just think it was amazing that even when she tried to come back with her sorry ass non-apology video, people still stood by their stance and told her to fuck off. She's an example of cancel culture promptly usedo n her.
I mean she could've just continued posting her drama videos like nothing happened and may have still continued getting views but it's kind of hard to say if she would've continued getting the views she got before the drama. like when Tobi Majestic had her drama and made a small handful of videos after before stopping altogether though her post-drama videos didn't get as much of the viewership as her pre-drama stuff did so it might've been the same for Creepshow as well if she had continued.
Creepyshow's situation is pathetic because I feel that if she just sincerely apologized to Emily for stalking and messing with her, Emily probably would've forgave (but not forget) her and things could've been settled and she could've retained her platform (as annoying as she was lol).
No. 2076800
>>2076550Oh okay. Didn't know Akai was grown. And yeah I agree art envy was big part of Sonic93's axe to grind, it would explain why she was alogging Akai even years after her rants on her.
Don't remember IDKY but I liked Ghost exe's response on the Alaidalia drama and was pretty rational about it. I miss his content but it got deleted because he drew cub shit or some nonsense and then boxofvox went out of her way to go after him for being friends with nekopon even tho she was a mod in his discord and knew he didn't know the whole situation with nekopon. Iirc and retarded.
>>Truth Lely GaiaSounds familiar (and for some reason my brain is remembering it as related to lakamokalaka??), but sounds interesting. Any vid recs on the situation to feed the artist?
No. 2076934
>>2076800ntayrt Lakamokolaka was TruthLelyGaia's Sonic93. Unlike Akai, however, TLG's supposed issues came from claims that she often traced her art (There was evidence iirc, Slugbox was the person she mainly traced from.
Then she left Deviantart, but was discovered again in a Splatoon community on Amino. There were claims about her trying to homewreck popular players, her bitching about how her art was amazing and that she didn't understand why she wasn't put on the front page by the admins. I kept up with it a bit right off of the Akaidalia train when I was younger. Then she turned into an undertale artist and I'm not sure what she's doing today.
There are too many videos on it that I can't be fucked to post them all in one thread (I've included the tracing one) but if you just look up "TruthLelyGaia" on YT you'll see a goldmine of background noise.
No. 2077175
>>2076800>Don't remember IDKY but I liked Ghost exe's response on the Alaidalia drama and was pretty rational about it.I remember Ghost exe's response and I agree that it was a fairly good response and was totally fair. I mean the thing with Akai with Sonic93 saying that her Jane character looked like Amy was just not true as I personally thought Jane looked different enough and it was nice that Ghost Exe spoke up on this when most of the narrative was dumbly agreeing with Sonic93. It's a shame with Sonic93 because all that time she spent alogging Akai could've been spent practicing her own art.
Do you remember the nasty fallout between her and her ex-friend/co-host Amy-chan that came later? That was pretty sad, I still remember when Dumbsville interviewed her and we learned a little more about what their friendship was like and how obsessed Sonic03 really was with Silver the hedgehog to the point where she put on makeup and asked her if she thought Silver would like it kek.
And speaking of Ghost exe, I liked his content as well but I somewhat remember the drama. I do remember hearing about the Nekopan stuff with her dating a 16/17 year old in his server and how the problem was totally blown out of proportion because Ghost exe worked a full-time irl job and wasn't glued to his Discord to where he wouldn't be aware of issues like that right away. I also remember the cub controversy but I personally didn't care because he clearly moved on from it and regretted it and Ifelt like he was being sincere.
As for Truth Lely Gaia,
>>2076934 got it. Lakamokolaka mostly kept tabs on her but IDKY made a (funny) response video about her and Harsh Opinions did a few videos on her as well (vidrel). Granted Harsh Opinion's video on her was a bit sophomore because she made this video when she was like 16 or 17 but it was serviceable enough for background noise at the time and still could be today.
No. 2078127
>>2077175Thank you for the recc
Nonnie this was some delicious old school autistic ACC shit..
Has anyone else been looking at the analbones thing? It is the epitome of everything wrong with the ACC right now. I watched ChristheNarc cover it and it is the most retarded drama. Junidraws covered it and spent more times making disclaimers than researching their shit or showing evidence.
No. 2079537
>>2079472
>He apologies to his girlfriend, neighbor, and roommate for not listening to them when they told hom not to get involved. Also apologies to his editor and Eno.>Synnibear03 section starts>JAR still insists he doesn't think Synni is a pedophile because he still thinks she didn't have the desire to get nudes or have sex with them irl. He does say he think she's a groomer and he does mention his opinion on Synni not being malicious has changed because of more info leaking.>He says he compared the Synnibear03 situation to how Pyrocynical's drama went and thought they were the same.>Says that his video defending Synni was supposed to originally be longer and include Birdie's side of things, but he panicked when Kumo leaked his video so he just uploaded what he had.>Majority of this section is him admitting that he should have been much harder on Synni while simultaneously throwing Kumo under the bus for leaking his earlier draft and saying it's the reason why he uploaded the "unfinished version".>Moves onto his section called "How I Talk To People.">He says the allegations of him simping for Synni are false despite the DM evidence.>Says the way he talked to Synni is just how he talks to people in general, including men.>Goes on to explain him wanting to fall asleep while on a call with her. Says he has very bad insomnia and says it helps when he calls people while he falls asleep.>Gets another guy's testimony that it's not a romantic thing and that he's asked multiple people the same thing.>Says he found Synni's avatar attractive, but he didn't even know what she looked like. Also makes a funny jab at how Peaches looks irl kek.>Says his girlfriend doesn't believe he cheated.>Brings up a weird ass request for art of his avatar sexually assaulting JaidenAnimations and how after people informed him that there was a minor in the call that he lowered the request to just be Jaiden lifting up her shirt, to which, a 17 year old drew that for him.>Says he doesn't remember requesting the SA art and says he's "pretty sure he didn't say that.">The 17 year old that drew the art for him told him her age afterwards and JAR says she had time to release this doc years ago when he was in the PrisonMateLuke and Tobi drama.>The 17 afterwards did say she was being over dramaric and deleted the doc.JAR's only defense for allegedly requesting the SA art is that he didn't remember asking for that specifically and he doesn't think he would do that. So take that what you will.
>Next section is called, and I shit you not, "Do I Have a Gas Fetish">He sent fart fetish art to a minor whom he didn't know the age of because he thought it was funny.>He never really denies having the fetish but says it was for comedic purposes so…whatever I guess?>Moves onto the section about what happened at vidcon 2023.>Despite the criticisms he got for his Spoctor thumbnail he says he thought he was still on friendly terms with people and would meet up with them at vidcon.I don't know whether or not this was before or after he said he was never friends with Harley in the twitter replies with him, but it's funny nonetheless.
>Says he should have stopped pestering to meet up with Mali after she said no the first time.>Describes his interaction with Ponder and says he thought it was funny and says Ponder tried to make it more creepy than it was by him squeezing her hand.>Says he wasn't hunting people down at vidcon 2023 and 2024 and that there's no proof for it.>Moves onto Zaid/Missanthropony>Basically he let Zaid upload videos on his channel and eventually Zaid asked him to take them down.>Zaid started calling JAR a pedophile apologist.>He says he has an issue of seeing someone that everyone else hates and has an urge to help them and that it's a bad habit of his.>Moves onto Kumo.>Kumo apperantly tried to convince Synni that JAR was trying to meet up with her to rape her and after the backlash he left the internet.>JAR says he's not leaving but taking a long hiatus from uploading until August.>Whines about DireGentleman's video on him.>" If you think these allegations are half as damning as you painted them out to be, then you should have released them way sooner.">"People for years, couldn't wait to see my downfall."A good majority of this just seems to be JAR either being retarted or purposefully obtuse by saying "well there's no proof of that happening so it must not have happened." He does take some responsibility on certain things like how bad the Synni situation went, but overall it just sounds like he doesn't get social cues and is shirking responsibility for things he's done. Some comments are either trolling or giving him ass pats, but a good amount are calling the response shit. I can already tell Harley is probably going to have a field day with this.
No. 2079567
>>2079472>>2079537I watched the video the night it dropped and honestly he was still being the smug fart-huffer that he is but the one thing I will agree with him on is the whole Synni being a pedophile thing. It's been awhile since I saw the doc but from what I remember, there was nothing in it that led me to believe that Synni was attracted to kids and it was simply clear that based on her own messed up background, she was just some young woman consumed by the coom and was getting off more on the fictional character she was obsessed with to the point of not caring who she shared it with it.
There can be an argument to be made that she could've been a groomer since she had Eno read that rape comic and if it was not found out, who knows what she would've done next. Personally I think that she would just try to have erotic RPs with her asking her to RP as the character she was obsessed with but still, it would be inappropriate.
So sure, you could see her as a groomer but a pedo? No. At least not based on anything that's been out there so far.
Anyway, Jar saying that he found Synnibear's avatar attractive… Like why? It's an over simplified Tumblr-style drawing. Then again he was obsessed with Jaden Animations… I dunno, I just don't get it lol.
>Brings up a weird ass request for art of his avatar sexually assaulting JaidenAnimations and how after people informed him that there was a minor in the call that he lowered the request to just be Jaiden lifting up her shirt, to which, a 17 year old drew that for him.I don't know how anyone can think good of him on this since he's essentially wanting to commit rape to Jaden's avatar. Even if there was not a minor in there, this is just fucked up and he's a fucking creep for even suggesting it if this is true.
>" If you think these allegations are half as damning as you painted them out to be, then you should have released them way sooner."He can fuck off with this. I remember getting annoyed hearing this in the video and this dude has no right to complain considering that he's known for waiting for dramas to simmer and then make a video on the situation (while acting like he was 2 steps ahead and oh so smart. Shut up Jar.
>>"People for years, couldn't wait to see my downfall."Because he painted himself as an unlikable smug douchebag. It's like Akumu. I can understand Akumu's frustration with the ACC but he shouldn't have been surprised why no one listened to him at the time because he portrayed himself in an unlikable way. It's the same for JAR.
>A good majority of this just seems to be JAR either being retarted or purposefully obtuse by saying "well there's no proof of that happening so it must not have happened." He does take some responsibility on certain things like how bad the Synni situation went, but overall it just sounds like he doesn't get social cues and is shirking responsibility for things he's done.Agreed, I know JAR has been upfront about his autism and hearing more context about these situations, I can believe that he just lacks social cues which tends to be the norm for autistic people (I say this with experience as someone with autism and I don't always get social cues myself). The Vidcon thing, if it really was just a handshake and he didn't creepily grasp Ponder's hand then sure, Ponder was being dramatic but who's to know for sure? But yeah point is, he's just autistic and comes off awkwardly in person.
I was surprised to hear that he actually does have a job as I thought he did YouTube full-time though I wonder if he got the job after he got cancelled or if he always had it.
>Some comments are either trolling or giving him ass pats, but a good amount are calling the response shit.Right. I did catch a bit of ChrisTheNarc's stream but I had to stop when they were at the Synnibear grooming/pedo thing because him and his cohosts were being obnoxious commentary bros in that moment saying how the context behind why Synni is the way she is doesn't matter and moral posturing. I'm not saying that Synni is an angel, far from it but the big question you hear with this situation and others like it is "why are they like this" and that is what the context helps address so it is important to have it. It doesn't absolve the person from their actions but it does provide explanation as to what led them to it.
But yeah I'm looking forward to hearing more responses from it because the video is a big mixed bag.
No. 2079638
>>2079633I clocked that as well. Funny how he decides to do this video when most of these people are inactive and some of his bigger detractors like Chudogic is not around. Also the response is just him making excuses for himself.
>I have sleep insomnia>I have autism>I have memory issues>I was high on weed>I was taking adderral Dude did not take much accountability for a lot of the video defaulting to these excuses. And yeah, who are he people who are saying they want him to come back? Most of the ACC were wanting him to go away I'm convinced that it's just the voices in his head because as far as I'm aware, most of the ACC figures stopped talking to him. Then again, word is that Lio is going to drop a video on this and maybe Lio still associates with him?
No. 2079828
>>2079567i agree with the synni part. these commentary bros have always defended a male scrote named zaptie, a guy who cheated on his girlfriend with a 14 year old. yet, if it's someone who they don't like and they recieve allegations, all nuance goes out the window and they say the most moral grandstanding shit ever. like, it's just moralfagging slop for the lowest common denominator, the terminially online individuals.
it's why i don't trust commentary dudebros for analysis on groomers. they always remove the nuance for their own virtue signaling and gain.
No. 2079925
>>2079726I listened to this while I crocheted, so ya'll better be thankful. I'm only going to list things that Lio said that were mildly interesting.
>JAR lamenting multiple times about how the Synni video was the unfinished version appears that it might be a lie, because Lio was saying that the version he shot around to people was practically finished in JAR's own words.>Someone donated $200 to Lio wtf.>Apparently JAR's admitted he has a rule 63 fetish, so the MangaKamen art that he showed is really suspect shit.>Lio plays audio of JAR saying that since he got a girlfriend he would stop making the "want to see my cock" jokes.>Lio calls Kai a moron so I guess it's safe to say that they're not on good terms like we thought kek>Lio calls out JAR's claim that he's only requested "goon art" 2 times and says that JAR has done it multiple times>It also looks like Lio and GildedPoo are on good terms now?>Kumo apparently half legitimate schizophrenia.The entire stream actually isn't just about JAR. I can't believe I'm genuinely saying this, but it seems like Lio has gotten a tiny bit better? I haven't been keeping up with his content since he dropped peaches to be fair, but it seems like after he cut the tumor off that was her, he seems to be doing better.
No. 2079956
>>2079828AYRT and preach. I just cannot with these commentary bros who get involved with these grooming stuff in the ACC and they clearly don't do all that much research and will call people things they aren't. I tried watching a channel called DieselIRL and he was doing the same shit calling Synni a pedophile. Like look, there's no denying that Synni could be seen as a groomer for what she did but anyone who has actually looked into the situation and looked at that doc, they would see that she was not lusting after Eno nor had she made any comments about sexualizing kids and this is why I have no patience for these dumbass scrotes who are calling her something that she's not.
I get the sneaking suspicion that the reason why these scrotes do this is because they want to point and go "see, women are just as bad as men" when it comes to pedophilia and so they will twist the narrative to satiate their own pathetic egos.
>ZaptieI do remember this guy but I never followed the drama surrounding him. But that's just messed up and is a good example of the pathetic hypocrisy.
No. 2079959
>>2079925I watched it while I was drawing but thanks for the quick summary nonetheless. I will say that Lio actually made some decent points and he did take JAR to task. I don't know if i think Lio can still be trusted as a reputable source but I do agree that there is some seeming improvement in his conduct.
>I haven't been keeping up with his content since he dropped peaches to be fair, but it seems like after he cut the tumor off that was her, he seems to be doing better.Well the last two very stupid things he did was the Rin call he did at McDonalds (kek) and refusing to take accountability on the mistakes he made with MintyHeart during his call with Stardust (it was a mess tbh) but yeah he took a good long hiatus after that drama and it seems to have done some good.
As for JAR, I really do wonder if he actually has a girlfriend or if it's fake because I just can't imagine any woman unless she was just as socially stunted as he was who would want to be with him.
No. 2079963
>>2079959>>2079925I hated Lio with a burning passion but since he dropped Peaches and closed down Senate he seems to have mellowed out considerably. His tirades now (While still incredibly animated) seem less "anime-protagonist"y and more nerdy an exasperated.
Never thought I'd see the day where I could sit through a video of his and not consistently wish he'd be hit by a car. A bit annoyed he pauses the video for each minor comment, though.
No. 2080015
>>2079963The senate seemed to multiply people's
toxic traits. Lio will always be weird with his whole "daughters" and Peaches relationship. As for Peaches, she brought out the worst in everyone. I know she's still being slimey online under a new persona.
No. 2080102
>>2080043What
>>2080060 said. Back when Lio was doing the Senate thing with his ridiculous (and creepy) adopted daughters thing, hsi videos and streams were insufferable and the way he portrayed himself was very cringe trying to act like some anime protagonist. But sever since he dropped that stuff, he has become noticeably more mellow and at least going with this one stream, it's a lot more tolerable than his past streams. Does this mean that he's suddenly a great channel? Hell no, it's only the first video and for all we know, he could relapse and go back to his old ways. But as is right now, on a scale of 1-10, he's at a 5-6.
I also appreciate that in Lio's video, he didn't say that Synni was a pedo like these commentary bros have been doing. At least from what I remember, he accurately called her a groomer so it's nice that he's not being some over-sensationalist and since he actually associated with JAR and was on friendly terms with him at one point, his criticisms felt more grounded and he was able to call out his lies that could've flown under the radar.
No. 2080250
>>2079567
>>Agreed, I know JAR has been upfront about his autism and hearing more context about these situations, I can believe that he just lacks social cues which tends to be the norm for autistic people (I say this with experience as someone with autism and I don't always get social cues myself). The Vidcon thing, if it really was just a handshake and he didn't creepily grasp Ponder's hand then sure, Ponder was being dramatic but who's to know for sure? But yeah point is, he's just autistic and comes off awkwardly in person.Here's my problem with Jar and his constant reminding us that he is autistic. At a certain point autistic adults (including myself) reach a point in like HS or college at the latest where they reflect on a social interaction and go "Oh I didn't read that cue right. Whoops. Probably should say sorry about that." Jar never considers that he might be the problem in an interaction,.never says sorry for upsetting a person even if it was because he didn't read things right and just says "Well I'm autistic what do you expect?" He's stagnating and using autism as an excuse to not bother growing beyond it. It's frustrating when I and others on the spectrum work really hard to overcome or at least take responsibility for our social missteps. I can't control when I don't read things right but I still have to own that I did that and made someone uncomfortable/upset.
Also the whole time Jar was talking about that ponder interaction it was clear he didn't care that Ponder was uncomfortable. He only considered his own intentions and absolved himself of any discomfort he might've caused her because autism. The intense bitter attitude towards Ponder talking about it publicly and later acknowledging it was him really didn't help his situation.
And lastly I am so incredibly angry at Jar doing the whole "Well, other creators drew goon are of me! If they were men would they be getting cancelled this hard?" And then shows a drawing that Ponder did of him in a maid outfit. A drawing Ponder made a point of saying she only drew it cause Jar posted asking for it. He clearly has an axe to grind with her and it isn't really justified like akumu, he's just mad Ponder publicly said he's creepy.
No. 2080293
>>2080250AYRT and you know, you raise a good point. I'm not good at reading a lot of social cues but in my late 20s. I'm a little better than I was in my teens and the times when I did not read the person I was talking with well, I would at least apologize. You're right that JAR never seems to apologize and just goes with that excuse of "I'm autistic" and at his age (I'm only one year older than him), he should know better.
>Also the whole time Jar was talking about that ponder interaction it was clear he didn't care that Ponder was uncomfortableYeah when I thought more about it, especially after watching Lio's coverage, I scan see how Ponder wouuld've been uncomfortable having this taller man who she doesn't know (in person) randomly approach her. This is something autistic men don't seem to realize all the time and I can sympathize to a point. I wouldn't have as much issue with this if JAR at least apologized and considered things from Ponder's angle which he didn't even attempt to do at all.
Also you're right, he clearly does have an axe to grind with Ponder which again, he should try to see things from her perspective, it's not just about him..
No. 2080368
>>2080043One of the anons you're referring to, and to be honest there's a bit of truth there. Bored as fuck, but also no amount of boredom would get me to sit through one of Lio's old videos where he'd get up on a soap box and preach.
I still expect very little from the scrote. But until someone else comes along to substitute, I'll at least comfortably sit through a stream where he's shitting on someone I hate so long as he's not screaming and pissing himself.
No. 2080400
>>2080368Exactly and this stream compared to previous ones are a breeze. There are moments in it where he gets annoyingly preachy with the god-talk shit but it's pretty contained and he stuck more to the point of JAR's excuses and claims which make it easier to listen to.
>>2080372Ponder has been so quiet in recent times that I don't think she's going to try to clap back at JAR and at most, maybe she'll have a private call with him through Lio. It would be cool to see her do a clapback video on him but I just feel like she won't do it.
No. 2080740
>>2080608Him getting anal about the art drawn of him is so fake. Like if you were uncomfortable with it, why not fucking say something like you've been preaching about others doing the entire video? He wants to be a
victim so fucking badly.
No. 2080866
Lio and Goatcatto were in some stream with SophTheNeko about this Frick person that Ponder made a video on a while back, new milk incoming?
>>2080043It’s really weird how despite Lio claiming to be done with drama cuz “muh mental health” he’s still commenting on it. The JAR thing I can understand because he knew JAR personally and JAR still has a large platform but he was commenting on the Synni/Birdie drama before JAR’s involvment was known and has been talking about other no name dramas. It’s clear he’s not as distant from drama as he portrays himself and skirts by from just leaving random comments or making videos on no names (ie Frick The Pirate whoever-the-fuck and some troll post by CarmenRider)
>>2079925>It also looks like Lio and GildedPoo are on good terms now?Yeah I’ve seen that, Gilded has been kissing ass on Ephrom’s videos, really weird because the guy deadass spammed scat and necro-zoo porn, during Lio’s drama the whole “Gilded is just misunderstood guyz” thing was stupid as hell because if Lio was spamming pictures of people fucking dead chickens at the people he screamed at in Senate you just know that shit would not have gone by without him getting eviscerated for it
>Kumo apparently half legitimate schizophreniaIf there’s ever a Kumo comeback I 1000000000000000000 % expect him to use that as an excuse. The rest of what I’m hearing sounds like the typical tard-on-tard violence I’d expect from this community
No. 2081000
>>2080866>It’s really weird how despite Lio claiming to be done with drama cuz “muh mental health” he’s still commenting on it. The JAR thing I can understand because he knew JAR personally and JAR still has a large platform but he was commenting on the Synni/Birdie drama before JAR’s involvment was known and has been talking about other no name dramas. It’s clear he’s not as distant from drama as he portrays himself and skirts by from just leaving random comments or making videos on no names (ie Frick The Pirate whoever-the-fuck and some troll post by CarmenRider)I think Lio stays in the know because he's somewhat close (at least in terms of speaking terms) with commentary bros like Cope & Seethe and ChrisTheNarc. In ChrisTheNarc's livestream about AnalBones he mentioned that he told Lio about that drama and that he tends to send him these dramas just to get his initial reactions. So if Lio isn't actively looking for it himself, he's getting sent it by ChrisTheNarc and possibly Cope & Seethe.
>Yeah I’ve seen that, Gilded has been kissing ass on Ephrom’s videos, really weird because the guy deadass spammed scat and necro-zoo porn, during Lio’s drama the whole “Gilded is just misunderstood guyz” thing was stupid as hellYeah I noticed that Gilded has been hanging around in Lio's streams as well though with the spamming of scat and necro-zoo porn, didn't he say he did that years ago and doesn't anymore or am I misremembering? Either way you're not wrong that if Lio was spamming gross deplorable shit, he would've gotten a ton of backlash. I think Gilded can get away with it because he's not really a part of the ACC .
I just find Gilded annoying because he comes off as if he really doesn't care about these dramas yet still gets involved in them lol.
>If there’s ever a Kumo comeback I 1000000000000000000 % expect him to use that as an excuse.For sure that is what he'll say but honestly he should just stay away. I mean in all his time being in the ACC, did he ever make any good or insightful commentary videos (that weren't just population opinion with nothing new or insightful to add)?.
Also in
>>2079925 Lio mentioned that Enlaa is no longer friends with Kumo and was being hypocritical about the fall out. I hadn't listened to Enlaa in awhile so I wasn't aware that she had a fall out with him though was there any explanation why? I mean I think she's better off without him and imo, she's a better ACC streamer because she's knows more about the current dramas but it still would be interesting to hear what made her want to stop associating with him.
No. 2081222
>>2081207Yeah it's very strange how most of the artists in the ACC have generic to just not so great art styles and in this last crop of ACC people, they have these weird Twitter/Tumblr cartoon overly simplified styles (I don't know what to call it, think styles like Synnibear's & Birdie). I think this is part of why Ponder was popular because aside from having mostly good takes, her art was also pretty good on a fundamental level. I mean I'm not heavily into comic style western art myself and I prefer something more middleground but I respect it and her stuff looked pretty decent when compared to these amateur styles.
I know you could say that it's because they're young but still, it's no excuse to not practice and try to improve provided they want to become freelance artists.
No. 2081257
>>2081153Goat has always had bad takes, and now she's thrown Frick under the bus. Goat is also saying that Frick used autism as an excuse, while making excuses for why she trusted and enabled Frick.
Does anyone even know about the shit they did to Simon? I remember that she accused him of grooming (with no evidence), and when he tried to respond to the allegations, Frick and Goat stalked and harassed the dude, while making false allegations about the guy.
There's rumors that he groomed someone but, knowing Frick and Goat, it could be bullshit.
No. 2081337
>>2081293True. Soph I'll excuse because pretty sure she's like 16 most kids her age draw like shit. Once she picks up some more skill and drops the over cartoonified art.
It drops down from the weird baby way artists are expected to talk to each other. The whole "if you can't find a compliment to add to your critique then don't speak" mentality. I wish art classes returned to the whole soul crushing level of critique that used to exist. Now things like unasked for critique or blunt remarks about skill aren't welcome and don't get me wrong people determined to stagnate always will, but the fact that it's rude to call art that's fundamentally bad art bad is so appalling.
No. 2081772
>>2079828zaptie was 20 and girl he "groomed" was 16 and 4 year age gap is less bad than 6 year age gap between synni and eno
Synni also did date a minor who was like 3 years younger than her and sent her uncensored rape porn.
she also tortured jack by hacking his computer by Kumo's request
so i say synni is still worse than zaptie
No. 2081935
>>2081772no dude. you are wrong. zaptie did groom someone who was younger than 16. even if heather lied about her age, it was still bad.
but, the commentary community will frequently defend zaptie and constantly shit on synni, while not recognizing the hypocrisy of that.
also jack probably had some illegal stuff on there. knowing what we know now.
No. 2082069
>>2079828Nah fam People pointed out how that douchebag abuser Imallexxx called him a diagnosed sociopath
he Did asked for nudes from someone who lied about their age at lot
I have no idea what agenda it was
No. 2082070
>>2081935Zapite got well deserved backlash for it he since left the community
It was the idiots like Imallexx who made the situation messy.
No. 2082726
>>2082357legality is not morality.
You can argue whether or not Zaptie should be dead or live a ordinary life for asking nudes of someone who he thought was 16 when he was 20, but whether or not he got criminal record should not change your judgement.
This is why some people hate Leonardo DiCaprio for dating really young adults when he is way older than them, even if they are all over 18 years old and thus legal.
No. 2084149
>>2084118Honestly meh vid. I think it's interesting that the way Lio talks in this and how it aligns with peak acc community sensibilities while when cc bros like ChristheNarc who Lio is friendly with use the same "slurs" that he criticizes Diaz for (autistic/retarded/etc) so it matters when it's an old acc weirdo but not people that don't care. He still plays both sides of the field and that'll bite him in the ass at one point. Also kek at him telling Diaz to stay offline when he really should take similar advice. And the part when Lio commiserates with Diaz because "I also have a hatedom but I'm not gonna go after them! Sometimes revenge is just being happy." Way to victimize yourself Lio. People who don't like you aren't a hatedom dumbass.
Also interesting to see Lio draw for a change but the whole thing was weird. The way he talked once he said he did lineart for some comic publisher but this was not up to that par imo. I mean his line weight was non-existent the line width was the same all the way through. He used rulers for certain straight lines and free wheeled the rest and considering his blocky subject (transformers ofc) he should've set up a perspective guideline and used the ruler all the way through. The round parts and some of the pieces closest to the viewer look incredibly wonky and I just couldn't stop thinking about how to fix the piece. I can't believe I'm saying it but I want him to bring back his stupid figures.
No. 2084917
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>>2084118Honestly, it's not that bad of a drawing. I've seen worse from the ACC. From a distance it looks fine. From up close, perspective, construction, and lineart are awkward. Anime shading and color looks nice, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's painting by numbers.>>2084118
No. 2087004
Callimara latest vid on JAR is mostly a recap of JAR hypocrisy and what Mali and Cope&Seethe exposed but she does include new info so here are some highlights:
>JAR himself, not Ponder, exposed he was the guy being talked about in the 2 vidcon incidents to Lio who passed it on to Kumo
>Calls JAR a snake and "damsel in distress" for needing his roommate to fight for him when he gets confronted for his own shitty behavior
>"If you're gonna be sexist then at least fight your own battles like a real man, otherwise it's just self-loathing" KEK
>Basically calls JAR a beta cuck for being "spineless, unargumentative, softspoken" when other men he thinks highly of scold him but not afraid to attack women who criticize him
>JAR used a fake accent talking to Ponder and only dropped it and revealed who he was after creepily holding her hands
>She confirms JAR was following her, Harley, and Ponder at Vidcon 24 and that JAR in his own roundabout autistic way of talking confirmed it himself in his comeback video
>Calli calls JAR a snake again for "just wanting to talk" to Ponder after shittalking about her online
>There was a 3rd incident with JAR where he stared at Mali as she, Streamline, and Chuuli walk passed him to go to a secluded area the group founded at Vidcon 24 to eat food and unwind
>JAR then follows Mali, Streamline, and Chuuli to this secluded area and sits directly behind Mali even though there were other empty tables available
>Mali warned Streamline and Chuuli JAR was behind her, Mali and Streamline dips but Chuuli didn't hear them so she stayed
>JAR then started ranting about the current state of LA for some reason to Chuuli even though Vidcon is in Anaheim.
>Calli sarcastically remarks that it must be a "wild coincidence" the group keep bumping into JAR as they struggled to meet up with other people they wanted to see at 2 vidcons
>Ends the vid by telling people not to give JAR a pass for being autistic, dyslexic, and homeschooled as those things don't justified his behavior, he just an asshole with no moral compass that needs to go to therapy and learn socialization or go hang out with people who are just like him and stop bothering the ACC
Im not even surprised by the shit JAR does but him getting mad at Ponder for exposing him being a creep only to find out JAR himself revealed he was the creep they were talking about KEK. Also the fact he followed Mali to a secluded area after the unhinged DMs and boohoo voice notes he sent her made him so much of a creep in my eyes than before. I don't like Mali but holy shit that must of been scary. Again I only gave highlights of what is new info and Calli's perspective on JAR's behavior as majority of it is what we already know
No. 2087602
>>2087453I thought about this as well and I understand where you're coming from with this thought. It's clear that JAR was a menace to women in the community for a long time and the smart thing would've been to cut ties with him a lot sooner and it does come off a bit attention-whorey with how they waited.
With Mali, as annoying as she is, I can't blame her unease with the JAR stuff at Vidcon, especially with the gun comment because JAR does come off like someone who would do something extreme, the man literally admitted that he goes to bed thinking about revenge to people who he thinks wronged him. I mean for the most part he is harmless if not just a pornsick creep but mixed vibes are definitely there.
>>2087555I agree that when it comes to the women of the ACC, Peaches was honestly the only one who was the most insufferable with her crybully attitude. Ponder Sprocket was okay for the most part and Mali just felt like she was trying to skinwalk Ponder and that could be annoying but she doesn't really upload all that much so it's not as bad since you got long breaks from her. Same deal with Streamline as another attempted Ponder skinwalker but she uploaded even less than Mali.
>The males trooning out have been worse attention whores and it's pathetic to see them trying to mimic an e-thot version of "womanood". I agree with you so much. Doodletones, CrystalFlame, Ephrom, etc. They all were insufferable and the coddling they got from the handmaidens in the ACC made them even more nauseating. Thankfully Doodletones fucked off and so did CrystalFlame and FuschiaButter. I think the only one left is QueenSerafina and he only hangs around Lio's group so he's easy to ignore since he doesn't cover ACC stuff.
No. 2087676
>>2087004NGL I usually hate callimara's content (it's kinda like streamline boring and full of milquetoast takes, so it's nice to see her pissed and not hold back. I actually halfway enjoyed her vid.
>>2087502Tbh I can kinda understand why they held back since JAR is a giant slimey crybully. Just watching him trying to constantly twist things on Mali in her call makes it pretty clear how insufferable even the slightest problem with him is. I also kinda get why this is just coming out now because peaches actively hated Mali, Harley and Oranges so she would've swept for JAR if it meant getting a leg up on them. And since Lio was whipped by peaches he would've done fuck all to help, which means ponder would've had to throw her weight around (which she really doesn't do anymore). Besides,.you really expect bunch of shy artsy women (and two moids but whatever) who we all know get socialized to ignore ambiguous red flag behavior like JAR's to come outta pocket and say "Hey this guy is an annoying creep!". Nah if JAR didn't blow everything up by trusting kumo I doubt we'd know any of this shit.
TLDR Don't get me wrong I'm giving none of the people calling JAR out flowers over this. The leech stayed in the community WAY too long and if they had shit like the vidcon stories they should've said something if only to "protect others in the community" like they constantly claim, but also can't fault them for avoiding the migraine that is dealing with JAR until he's already in trouble.
No. 2087810
>>2087676>Peaches hated MaliI didn't know about this, why did she hate her? I thought they were friends?
Also I see what you mean with the hesitation, nevermind that JAR had a huge rabid fanbase who would harass people he went after for the sake of his nameright. And as annoying as these girls are, they are still shy artsy women like you pointed out and they more than likely didn't want to sdeal with JAR's fans harassing them.
No. 2088367
I am in a nsfw discord server and there is a 18 year old there, but they were a minor when they joined the server (they were 18 after i joined).
i asked them if someone ERPed with them and they told me they didn't. but they still saw nsfw.
what do should I do?
No. 2088394
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>>2088367Report it? Are you retarded? Did the discord mods even know they were a minor? If not they need to improve their vetting process, if they did report the server. Also
nonnie how much of a degenerate are you? If you're in cesspit like a NSFW discord?
No. 2089759
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>>2089556Not gonna watch the video anytime soon because I've already seen way too many videos about JAR and I get it, he's a fucking creep and always has been towards women in the ACC space. I agree with you though that these girls acting like such
victims of him when they continued to let him stay in the ACC for as long as they did knowing that he was a creep is really annoying because they are just as much to blame for it. I don't begrudge Mali's experience with him with the whole Vidcon thing but outside of that, any of these people could've put an end to JAR's harassment by getting him blocked off their discord server because at that point, they all knew that JAR was a creep and there would be no hard feelings about it since they all understood just how terrible he was.And even though Lio was a big figurehead of the Senate, he doesn't strike me as someone who would try to shame them for their feelings on JAR. Then again this is the man who made his own wife apologize to Peaches' and her fuckery so who knows? The point is, they could've dealt with JAR a year or two ago because even if they were afraid that JAR would've made a video on them whining about how he was "unfairly" kicked out of the group, besides his retarded fanboys & fangirls, most people would've understood them. Because they clearly had evidence to support JAR's creep behavior.
So I totally get where you're coming from, everyone in this situation sucked and Cope And Seethe's comment about the ACC is not inaccurate.
>KlownTeeth/IcyHazardIt's so funny because I always thought Icy was in her 20s during the drama and I was surprised to learn she was actually a teenager. I'm also a bit hazy on the stuff about her as well because she distanced herself pretty early and was quiet for a very long time before she came back as "KlownTeeth". I do vaguely remember that she was involved in drama with some ACC members that came from her relationship with her
toxic ex-boyfriend. I don't recall her being in any drama regarding herself that was truly negative because the only drama that happened involving her herself from what I remember was when she gave some dumb takes about character writing and designing characters iirc and when she got critiqued, I'm pretty sure she took it gracefully as I don't recall her making lash out response videos.
I don't really understand why Icy wants to make a video about her experience since she got out of it pretty early on unless she was being active in the Senate as well? Hopefully she shares something interesting because at this point the JAR bandwagon is getting old and the man is done for as far as being invited to any part of the ACC (that he claims he never was a part of lol).
>>2089556 No. 2090520
>>2089556>>2089759Icyhazard/klownteeth was 19 during the drama she was in with her ex
>when she got critiqued, I'm pretty sure she took it gracefully as I don't recall her making lash out response videosThe criticism from the drama sort of was taken? But then she later claimed that she only made those stupid critique videos because her boyfriend was
abusive.
She did get into some drama about a year later with not handling criticism well. She would lash out at people who left her comments on twitter and deviantart, and she would send her friends/fans to go after them. Some people made videos about it, and icy/klown made a video with her friend thenamesunkie in response. Most of the videos are gone now.
>I don't really understand why Icy wants to make a video about her experience since she got out of it pretty earlyIcy was in the acc a while. She got popular making akai dalia rants. I don’t know what she could add with her experience. She was one of the reasons the acc was
toxic. Now she wants to come back and act above it all.
>unless she was being active in the Senate as wellShe was in Senate. I'm pretty sure she was a mod. You can hear Lio refer to her as "a thick goth mama" or something like that in one of the call videos
No. 2090777
>>2090520>Icyhazard/klownteeth was 19 during the drama she was in with her exOk then that makes Chuuli's "she was 17" comment weird because JAR's vids were about the drama Klown was involved in when she was an adult
>Now she wants to come back and act above it all.She supposedly left back in 2020 leaving this apology which I think is why no one is bashing on her past actions as those in the ACC who are friends with her saw the growth or whatever. I didn't even know she made this until I went back to her old channel. Its still weird she is making a video about how she was treated as in her apology she admits she was the one doing fucked up things with her old friend group unless its gonna be those "I was taken advantage of" exposés which just throws her whole apology in the trash because that's just going to be her excusing her past actions rather taking accountability and moving on.
No. 2091030
>>2090520Ayrt and yeah totally understand that. IcyHazard as mature as her voice sounded that made me think she was older, I also got a sense that she may have some self-confidence issues which probably made her vulnerable to not acting herself when having a controlling BF. Though thanks for explaining about how she was on DeviantART and Twitter, admittedly I didn't follow her activity on those platforms and I assumed that she was mostly just active on YouTube and Discord (possibly Skype before) when it came to her online friends. I wish I could've seen those old video responses just to see how bad the response was.
>friendship with TheNamesJunkieOh I forgot they were friends. It's crazy how things turned out since then what with Junkie and Feghost being creeps.
>Icy was in the acc a while. She got popular making akai dalia rants. Yeah I was aware, I actually discovered her because of her Akaidalia rants lol Sucks she privated/deleted them because I wouldn't mind hearing them again as nostalgic background noise when drawing kek.
>>2090777I really hope that she doesn't do the whole "I was taken advantage of" excuse. Even if that may be slightly true, she still had choice and she really just take accountability for that. The drama is old anyway and I doubt she would get much backlash. Let's just hope this JAR video will actually be decent.
No. 2091048
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>>2091030>>2090681>>2090777
>He was actually referring to MonstressI saw icy in the gallery in at least one other call, and I’m pretty sure Lio said “that’s klown, a goth thic” but I’d have to comb through calls to find it unless you know where it is.
I was never in senate, but I assumed icy was a mod since she was in several calls and her former “ride or die” blueweed/thedudeblu/boxovfox/bludavu was a mod in senate.
>Ok then that makes Chuuli's "she was 17" comment weirdPonder released her video on icy in the middle of 2017. Icy’s birthday is March 23. She was 21 in 2019, which means she was 19 in 2017.
>I also got a sense that she may have some self-confidence issues which probably made her vulnerable to not acting herself when having a controlling BFI feel like she's just a bad person who lets out her mean girl side when she has people who aren't afraid of public backlash on her side, especially people with large sub counts. She wouldn't make a response video to random nobodies criticizing her, but she had her friend thenamesjunkie make a video. She'd never criticize feghost to his face like she did in the senate call, but she had the power of a group when she was in senate.
>Sucks she privated/deleted them because I wouldn't mind hearing them again as nostalgic background noise when drawing kekShe’s currently making a video beating the dead horse of calling the entire drama stupid and making fun of the people who made rants
No. 2091126
>>2088367Update:
>the now 18 year old joined the server 1 month before becoming 18>they didn't tell anyone they were a minor then>they claim they did not enter the nsfw channels which were properly marked and had the "are you 18+" pop up when clicked on>they did not talk about nsfw topics while on server>they are 18 now>no one tried e dating them>server did have other minors that revealed they were minors, and once server admins found out about them, the admins banned themI am asking here because I want to be anonymous and I don't want to ask ACC directly because they will crap on everyone in server.
Can the 18 year old stay or do they have to leave?
No. 2091297
>>2091088If you look in his video description it literally says "I DO NOT expect anyone to sit down and watch it all in one go."
I'm still trying to get it through myself, but times been limited and I've only gotten through 1 hour of it.
No. 2091891
>>2090681>>2091048I found it. It was in the senate call beta virgin rage quits at 22:35.
>that’s clown teeth and that’s a girl and she’s a thick goth gfI don’t think clown teeth is klown teeth/icyhazard. But it’s hard to hear because missydrip won’t shut the fuck up and she’s so loud.
Whoever clown teeth is has the same secretary bitch role as monstress. Monstress is on the right side earlier in the call, so it's not her. They also call clown teeth kai. Anyone know who kai is?
No. 2091954
>>2090520>Icy was in the acc a while. She got popular making akai dalia rants. I don’t know what she could add with her experience.I can’t say for certain how far back she wishes to talk about, but one of the experiences she might talk about is actually related to the AkaiDalia rants. I recommend lakamokolaka’s video titled “The Truth Behind BrokenXMuse - 5 Years of Slander” if you want a more detailed retelling.
To simplify a 5 hour video, lakamokolaka talks about the old DeviantArt Sonic OC ranters from 10 years ago. The group bullied a lot of autistic people and Icy/Klown was in the group, and so was Choas55t. One of the people they targeted was JAR, but he went under a different name and faked suicide to get them to stop. It’s the reason why he used a voice changer, to hide from them.
lakamokolaka covered the FCK shit and has been spotted in quite a few different live stream chats. Cope&Seeth, I think ChristheNarc, and she gets mentioned by Akumu a bit too. She’s one of those people who get referred to as the “old guard” of the commentary community.
No. 2092320
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synnibear03 updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIIHDw5XE0chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7G1OAVp6BQ>bug sprxy/piwi the then 17 year old whom the 19 and a few months old synni also tried turning into Birdie, sent rape comics, tried to move in together and synni also received pictures of her in underwear has sent a cybertip>synni opened a commission serverhttps://x.com/Puppycrayonbox/status/1866741361879478667if synni goes to jail can we have phone calls or letters with her like they did with daniel larson and chris chan?
No. 2092539
>>2091954Ayrt and thanks for the info anon. I'm already aware of Lakamokalaka and have been for a somewhat good while but I must've missed that video you're referring to because I don't tend to watch a lot of her videos because of how long they can be and how frankly, pathetically dramatic she can be. No hate to her but when she feels the need to raise her voice and blab on about her trauma and all that, it's pretty cringe. But she is one of the oldest people from those early DA ranting days who still stuck around so she's begrudgingly useful.
>To simplify a 5 hour video, lakamokolaka talks about the old DeviantArt Sonic OC ranters from 10 years ago. The group bullied a lot of autistic people and Icy/Klown was in the group, and so was Choas55t. One of the people they targeted was JAR, but he went under a different name and faked suicide to get them to stop. It’s the reason why he used a voice changer, to hide from them.Oh man, that does make a bit more sense as I remember hearing that about JAR from a stream NowRecording did where they featured DillonThomas and he mentioned that JAR was targeted by some old DA Ranters back in the day but he didn't remember their names. And yeah I'm aware that Dillin is a lolcow himself.
>Lakamokolaka covered the FCK shit and has been spotted in quite a few different live stream chats. Yeah I'm aware. She tends to circle around Cope & Seeth, Enlaa, and Lio though otherwise is around most of the main players involved in this drama. Again, she may be overly dramatic but she is helpful in filling certain blanks about the older days of the community.
No. 2092542
>>2092397>>2092400I personally don't take it seriously. I'm pretty sure a lot of us in here just look at this like junkfood reality TV, we know it's shit and meaningless but it helps pass the time when not working on other things. Personally unless there is serious messed up crap like legit pedo type stuff, the drama is all dumb junk food for the viewer.
I don't disagree that the main players in these dramas have no sense of integrity when it comes to stuff like this. As discussed above, it was known that JAR was a creep and he should've been put on blast a year or two ago regardless if people believed them or not though with how these people screenshot so much stuff, they would've had a solid case against him if they came together and put together what they had archived or documented. It's quite clear that it was because of Lio running interference for JAR because as much of a stereotypical greasy neckbeard he comes off as, he still comes off as an maturity figure to these young autistic women who may/may not have daddy issues.
No. 2092922
Shister trying to tell slimedalien that she can't make art commentary videos because she had attachment issues at age 15 she didn't know how to regulate yet is just so dumb.
>>2092397>or only call people out when its socially acceptable to do so?Because the art commentary community is full of maladjusted women who are full of hatred and malice and believe their people pleasing tendencies inherently makes them a
victim, when in reality they are catty and awful and roll over and play dead whenever anyone attempts to confront them, but when they are shown to have an opportunity, they do not fucking hesitate to pounce on someone who probably didn't even know they were hated all that much.
No. 2093395
>>2092397They surpassed regular commentary community and art community in being one of the most vicious and
toxic communities on the net.
(sage your shit) No. 2093724
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>>2093701I think it's more about it being an easy "win". Since dunking on kids which are dumb and lacking experience in life is a script that writes itself. It isn't like any drama with adults where you have to be careful how you step or claim something because you could put yourself in an awkward spot. It's pretty easy to morally grandstand at kids since they don't know any better.
On another note anyone else keeping tabs on Nezzie s blusky spergouts? Hoping Chuulis vid inspires more along with Thumin FCK piece
No. 2093822
>>2093724Honestly any kind of “apology” Nezzie gives just feels so fake. It’s telling that she threatened to kill herself and went after others multiple times before giving any kind of acknowledgment to her behavior. The community kissed the butts of people like her and Doodle for years before making any kind of change yet they switch up the second Chuuli drops a video that gets a considerably large audience. Nezzie is such a nobody that I don’t even see the point of trying to salvage her career, her only real popularity was during the Madame shit in 2019 afterwards she immediately made a clown of herself during the Tobi situation and since then has basically done nothing but scream on Twitter (and now Bsky) which rarely gets her any attention. Is the opinion of SCC nobodies just that important to her because those are the only people that still actively follow her
>>2093701I think it’s Stream’s upbringing. She got big at like 14-15 for covering random dramas in the meme community and that’s where most of her audience comes from, unfortunately for her ever since lockdowns ended the drama in that side of the internet has been much more niche and fizzles out way quicker now. The Quartzel or whatever shit happened back in like September and Enlaa covered it when it was new from what I remember. I don’t know if anything new has happened but sadly her career is kinda locked into acting like a teen DeviantArt ranter channel indefinitely
No. 2093877
>>2093724>I think it's more about it being an easy "win". Since dunking on kids which are dumb and lacking experience in life is a script that writes itself. I was thinking the same thing but Streamline is setting herself up as if she keeps dunking on kids someone gonna call her out for it. But I don't think that would affect her as she's not fickle or reckless in her videos especially with Ponder and Mali helping her. Though she keeps having to clarify herself in the comments.
>>2093728>she took a page from Ponder lolSee that would be true if she shifted her content away from callout commentary and doing what Ponder doing which is random movie review/commentary outside of callouts
(sage your shit) No. 2093995
>2093724
I get so frustrated whenever I see any of the adults from the FCK not understanding what they did was wrong, especially Nezzie. Expect for Toast and Zizi, I can go “maybe they thought it wasn’t that bad since it was in a “public” group.” But Nezzie was told by Toast - one of the groomers - that he were sending private NSFW images to a known minor, a behaviour which is grooming behaviour. And after the fact, when that minor came out and called it grooming, Nezzie and friends fought them publicly. (If I’m getting the timeline and people correct that is.)
Even if Nezzie were to apologise to the victims private and publicly now, I won’t believe them. She - out of everyone in that server - knew that Toast was participating in grooming actions towards Teddy, and then bullied Teddy when they called it grooming.
The problem with Nezzie is that if she was replaced by a mandatory reporter for only those DMs where Toast said they were sending NSFW to Teddy, they would’ve done something. But no, we got retarded Nezzie who seemed to either too busy trying to beat Akumu, or I was too scared of Akumu to move her “drugged out” self to do anything productive.(sage your shit)
No. 2094119
>>2093701i've been a stream hater since day one. ever since she had a weird relationship with a 20 year old autistic woman and then blamed them for everything, removing all responsibility from them, and painted themselves as the
victim, i've always had a hateboner towards her because she'll bully and ruin the lives of mentally ill individuals yet, where was the callout on toasty? zizi? synni? birdie? nowhere to be found.
she is a slimy, disingenuous, piece of shit who obsesses over nsfw and drama, along with bullying the weirdos and acting like her shit doesn't stink.
her self-righteousness will be her downfall. guaranteed.
No. 2094191
>>2094119Are you suggesting she wasn't groomed? She was 15 with a 20 year old,which is illegal in Canada, who made a game referencing her relationship with Stream as "a risky age gap",then lied that she was in a relationship with Stream, then decided to do a failed uno reverse card by saying Stream groomed her. I'm not saying you can't dislike her as she's 21 and still doing devianart commentary but I'm concern that is where your hatred for her started. Like sure nothing sexual happened between them but defending a 20 year old nagito larper who called herself "daddy" dating a 15 year old Stream who was the "mommy" in a discord friend group, I'm sorry Stream is a
victim.
>blamed them for everything, removing all responsibility from them, and painted themselves as the victimWym by this? I'm genuinely confused what did stream blamed Lucille on, that she was groomed?
No. 2094199
>>2093797While I agree with what you're saying, we also need to talk about how these kids are even getting into these servers and let alone sticking in them when the degeneracy starts rearing it's head in. Maybe it's because I was a "goodie-two shoes" when I was a kid and stuff like Discord didn't exist when I was a jr high and high school kid but I remember my early days on DeviantART and how I would sometimes get creepy guys messaging me and what I would just block them and warn my online DA friends about the person. I would not stick around or engage with people making inappropriate comments at me. I can understand that teens will be teens and may look at NSFW art, especially nowadays since porn is literally everywhere on the internet it seems, at least more so than there was back in like 2007 but still, there's a difference between looking at and engaging with it. I didn't see overt NSFW till I was 17 so that's a bit later compared to these Discord kids who are saying they are seeing this at 12-13 but still, I didn't engage with people except my two good friends of same age about it and we were just being stupid fangirls since it was NSFW of our favorite anime characters but we kept it among ourselves.
I guess I'm just bewildered why this boundary is not being done in recent times. Don't talk to people you don't know springing sex or fetish chat on you and only keep among your most trusted friends who are of similar age. That's part of my annoyance with vidrel where this person who was in the FCK shares how they were in that server when they were 13 years old. I'm not trying to
victim blame because the adult will always be the sole one to fault but after seeing more stories like this pop up, I have to side eye at the people who were minors who are putting themselves in these situations and not leaving (in this case the server) when they really need to. I was about to also ask where the parents are but I understand that is foolish because kids will be kids and be sneaky AF and unless the parent is a helicopter parent, they won't be able to catch everything.
I just don't understand why kids these days are not using basic common sense. I know that there were people in my generation who didn't use common sense neither but I can't help but feel like it's gotten even worse with the new generation.
No. 2094206
>>2093822>Honestly any kind of “apology” Nezzie gives just feels so fake. It’s telling that she threatened to kill herself and went after others multiple times before giving any kind of acknowledgment to her behavior. The community kissed the butts of people like her and Doodle for years before making any kind of change yet they switch up the second Chuuli drops a video that gets a considerably large audience. Nezzie is such a nobody that I don’t even see the point of trying to salvage her career, her only real popularity was during the Madame shit in 2019 afterwards she immediately made a clown of herself during the Tobi situation and since then has basically done nothing but scream on Twitter (and now Bsky) which rarely gets her any attention. Is the opinion of SCC nobodies just that important to her because those are the only people that still actively follow herI agree with all of this, especially on how irrelevant Nezzie really is in the community. I only remembered her from the MAdame drama as well and as soon as that ended, I totally forgot about her until the FCK and Akumu stuff happened. She's a nobody and had no "career", she wasn't making video content and earning money for it so there was no "career" of hers to lose. I feel this way about IcyHazard though that's only because I don't recall her saying that she wanted to do YouTube as a job but I think she clearly did try to move on which is again, why I'm puzzled why she feels the need to make a video on her experience about the Senate since I don't think she'll have anything new to add.
>>2093822>I don’t know if anything new has happened but sadly her career is kinda locked into acting like a teen DeviantArt ranter channel indefinitelyThis sounds so fucking depressing when you think about it. It's essentially meaning that if she matures her content, she'll lose her audience who come for the petty teen drama crap. That's the downside of when you make content like that in the beginning and don't diversify enough to not get typecast.
>>2093995Agreed, Nezzie at this point is just trying to save her ass and not take accountability for her past actions under the guise of memory loss. Personally I think she's full of shit and doesn't have memory loss after seeing how she was in the akumu confrontation call where she conveniently remembered things that made her look somewhat good while "forgetting" all the things that were worth criticizing on her past actions.
No. 2094222
>>209419115 and 20 is risky, yes. i am not really defending lucille much in this as, she is a degenerate who shared nsfw audios, along with talking about sex with stream but, to say that stream was groomed is a bit of a overreaction. was the relationship innapropriate? yes. but, i highly doubt that lucille did it for their own pleasure. keep in mind that lucille has a disablility and other people made it seem like it was okay for lucille to do that. but, as soon as controversy hit, they ended up abandoning her. there's a difference between innapropriate actions and predatory behaviors. it's clear that while lucille was innapropriate, she probably didn't want to prey on stream at all.
also i hate how everyone talks about that first video (which is a BAD video) but, i don't think anyone has seen the second video. the second video was alot more important but, it's lost media now due to the bullying that lucille got.
i don't believe stream is a
victim because, they seemed a bit combative towards people who doubted them, along with building an echochamber where, if anyone questioned the story, they got harassed and blackballed by the ACC. i think she's also used her percieved victimhood as a weapon against people and i think that's REALLY scummy.
also, i think it's mad weird on how a few people that made lucille videos, ended up associating with the FCK. that's food for thought.
also the discord family group thing is degeneracy but, it's not really grooming? i mean, lio has had "daughters" over the years and people only merely called him a bit of a creep. having discord families is just weird terminally online behavior and not grooming. there has been groomers that have used this system but, it's just a terminally online thing, really.
also i find it really funny that JAR hated lucille but, ended up defending synni. that's pretty funny.
No. 2094234
>>2094222>Lucille has a disabilityI don't know about this old drama between Stream and this Lucille person but I think you bring up a good point about how disabled young adults who put themselves in situations of dating teenagers, there is a potential reason on why this happens. When it comes to disabled people and how a lot of them can hold onto things that they liked in their childhood for longer periods which can result in them staying in fandoms that are popular with kids and they may have a harder time understand why it's wrong. Like it's one thing if it was a really little kid around like 14 and under but in the slightly older teens, it's a little more understandable even if still wrong to inappropriate. If this Lucille person was not trying to make plans to meet up with Stream, was being sexually explicit at her detailing how she wants to have sex with her and/or sending nudes to her or requesting her to send nudes to her, then yeah I understand where you're coming from anon.
The word "groomer" gets thrown around A LOT in the last few years and I feel like it's getting to a point where people don't understand what the word means anymore.
No. 2094246
>>2094234i think they did meet up but, nothing sexual did happen. all they did was give each other hugs and a kiss on the cheek.
both of them have never mentioned sex at all so, it's safe to assume nothing sexual happened.
No. 2094256
>>2094222> keep in mind that lucille has a disablility and other people made it seem like it was okay for lucille to do that. but, as soon as controversy hit, they ended up abandoning her.here's a difference between innapropriate actions and predatory behaviors. it's clear that while lucille was innapropriate, she probably didn't want to prey on stream at all.Wasn't majority of her "friends" minors at the time? I'm not surprised if teens dropped someone for clout however I hate the "muh disability". A disability could be a reason for someone's actions but it leads to shit like JAR who uses his autism as a scapegoat or people who use their BPD for being degenerates. Idk what disability Lucille has as I don't remember the second apology they posted that well but wanting to move in with a 15 year old? That just doesn't sit right with me
>also i hate how everyone talks about that first video (which is a BAD video) but, i don't think anyone has seen the second video. the second video was alot more important but, it's lost media now due to the bullying that lucille got.Again, don't remember the second vid that much but isn't that the one where she said Stream was intending to groom her? Ik
>>2094191 mentioned it which I remember that line as it was wtf
>>2094234> If this Lucille person was not trying to make plans to meet up with Stream, was being sexually explicit at her detailing how she wants to have sex with her and/or sending nudes to her or requesting her to send nudes to her, then yeah I understand where you're coming from anon.Lucille and Stream did meet up irl there are even pictures of them together but as other anons said nothing sexual happened when they met. Also in the DMs Stream released there were constant talks of them living together at Stream's old family home. In those same DMs Lucille talks about if Stream is truly "asexual" as she(Lucille) is "a horndog". There are more stuff but I'm not gonna browse the Google drive, which is still up I think, as thats too much for dried milk
No. 2094388
>>2094256yea but, you're making it seem like lucille is a bit of a rapist of some kind. just because they're were talks of moving in with each other, that doesn't mean that there was going to be sexual stuff happening.
also, lucille has autism so, it's gonna cloud her judgement a bit. same goes for JAR but, he is an actual retard compared to lucille.
also, the people that convinced lucille to date stream, were neurotypical adults. all of them had weird age-gap relationships.
No. 2094474
>>2094269AYRT and for real. I think you're right that maybe parents aren't instilling internet safety on their kids as much as when we millennials will growing up in the 2000s as teens The things you mentioned are things I remember hearing a lot back in those days, even from my own parents. And again, practicing common sense that if a random person is saying inappropriate stuff to you, you do not engage with them and block them. I think this lack of informing with these zoomers is because their parents probably gave them tablets or smartphones when they were really young (like 5-6+) and because they started them on super kid-friendly stuff like YouTube-Kids and stuff like that, they may forget that they need to warn their children of what not to do as they get older and enter their teenhood.
Then again, PEaches who was being a crybaby about when her parents came down hard on her for talking to adult men on Discord and took away her computer as punishment and she was acting like the parents were
abusive for that… Who knows?
All I know is I'm getting exhuasted hearing about these zoomers admitting that they were getting groomed or hanging out in Discord servers that were 18+ when they were minors and not practicing common sense of reading the room and bailing when you know it's time. The adults running the server will always be the one who should get the most fault but I'm not coddling and excusing the teens who put themselves in those situations as well as they should have known better.
No. 2094631
>>2094234I’m pretty the
nonnie that’s been going insane in this thread and the previous one about H0peful Lucille is this one person named Simon that Frick The Pirate and GoatCatto were screeching at for a while. He commented the exact same “Lucille is an autistic woman that you harassed off the internet” under Stream’s videos for a while. I remember in a stream chat (I think Leigha’s) he was asked about that comment and had a sperg out and said “Fuck off I said I was sorry! Fuck now I’m mad thanks a lot!” I wish I could find the screenshots but yeah totally a sane person
No. 2094788
>>2094726Good for her
it’s a good first step towards her gettting a real life
No. 2095216
>>2093516Quartelz needs to be cancelled.
This is just like synni and bug/piwi.
This is a wake-up call for quartelz. Cancel her, she will lose her career, then when she becomes grateful enough for things she had she should be allowed back.
If she doesn't get cancelled, she will do worse later, just like Synni.
No. 2096933
Skim milk as this is more ACC-adjacent than a direct happening in the community but I watched this stream by this Sai Scribbles girl on Lio Convoy and, while it’s a relief to see not everyone is forgetting his past bullshit she is actually so bad at calling him out. I remember following her for her involvement in the Lily Orchard drama and her videos were some of the worst on Lily to recently be made. She’s going for ACC drama but clearly doesn’t know the context of like half of these situations since most of it is random shit dramas Lio got into (most of which aren’t even in the community) and the rest is her bitching that Lio has criticized Steven Universe and complaining that Lio agreed with Lily Orchard on one thing from like 7 years ago. She’s major cow material but I’m not sure if she’s better for here or the western industry cows thread but I figured I’d go for here because the topic of the stream is Lio and the video is gaining traction fairly quickly
>>2095275>talking to them about porn when viewing porn at that age is a sign of healthy development anywayThe anon saying that Lucille wasn’t as bad was stupid but um what the fuck, if you’re an adult don’t send porn to children period, saying “it’s good for them” is creepy as shit
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>>2097327>>2097202Nezzie doing damage control again lol
No. 2097583
>>2097578Yeah she was one of Sophia's biggest clitsuckers. But I'm kinda not surprised, she looks like the mentally ill
femcel phenotype
No. 2098103
>>2097518Goatcatto made a response livestream (because for some reason Soph couldn’t be bothered to do it herself) and it seems this video is just a troll. This guy has a video on his channel doing the same shit with CoryXKenshin and according to Goat and some others this Saythe guy is a member of the UTTP / YouTube Troll Police (edgelord group that is known for trolling the commentary community with shit like this). Also the evidence is cropped/blurred screenshots (a major warning sign of fake screencaps). It wouldn’t shock me if Soph’s platform does eventually crash in on itself, she’s made herself a big target multiple times (such as helping Phxntom Graffiti spread fake grooming allegations in 2021 to get back at Major Cloog which ended up making people take Cloog’s real grooming allegations less seriously in 2023) and has sided with a bunch of other terminally online zoomers and questionable people (such as the aforementioned PhxntomGraffiti, Mushroom Girl the loli porn defending zoomer that thinks lesbians can be attracted to men and FNAF incest porn enjoyer Bendy The Bunny). I wanted to have some sympathy for her because she was like 14 during some of her previous dramas but it’s been like 4+ years and none of these ACC people mature past middle school so I have very little hope on her ever changing, at best she’ll pull a Lyra and just DFE and get a real life
>>2097838She probably does, she likely is lurking if for no other reason than to keep updated on whatever drama is happening in the main ACC
>>209783518 going on 19 to my knowledge
No. 2098233
>>2097989Yeah it was exhausting and I'm just glad Lio didn't let her steamroll him too much. I don't believe for a second that she forgot most of the stuff that was being brought up, she's just used to getting away with that excuse because the other people she associated with in the community would think that was
valid. But just like Peaches, I'm pretty sure Nezzie's time is up as well. I mean it's not like she was making much content to begin with anyway.
No. 2098326
>>2098233Honestly, kind of mind boggling hearing her excuse bad behavior towards Teddy/other FCK
victims because "they aren't me" or "I wasn't thinking about them" when she spent so much time in the ACC crowing over people. Not to moralfag cause I couldn't give less of a shit if ur an asshole to people but Nezzie, fuschia,.and the rest of that crew moralfagged to hell and back saying "You don't care about
victims!!1!" and can't even hold themselves to their own standards. Outrageously pathetic on their end tbh.
No. 2098988
>>2097491A thing that Nezzie and a lot of other popular creators don't realize is the excuse of "I'm not perfect" doesn't work when you do, or used to, lord over other people on some moral high horse.
No Nezzie, you're not perfect, but you expected others to be and that's retarded. If you're entitled to your mistakes, then everyone else the Senate screamed at was, too. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Side note I hate the massive amount of self-pity she displays here. It's all 'woe is me nobody cares about me I've been self harming and binge eating and puking cause I'm so sad' That's all I hear and it's comical coming from a Senate freak.
No. 2099018
This is more of an aside tangent but I seriously don't understand guys like Cope & Seethe who will blather on and on about how much they don't give a fuck about the drama that goes on in the ACC yet feel the need to make endless stream after stream about it and within them, they will try do moralfagging under the guise of saying edgy shit (but no, don't upset the trannies, use their preferred pronouns or pretend like you don't know what they actually are) by calling our certain hypocrisies.
Cope and Seethe is the least abrasive of the commentary streamer bro trio that make videos on the ACC drama (the other two being Gilded Poo & ChrisTheNarc). On the one hand, at least Cope and Chris are upfront with their grifting since Gilded doesn't talk about every ACC drama which is refreshing but these two, they can say how much they don't care but I think they secretly enjoy it. Because for fuck's sake, they aren't gonna be making lots of money covering ACC drama, it's a small hole compared to other commentary communities.
I also don't understand why ACC creators like Ponder Sprocket, Mali, and Thumin flock to these guys neither. Because if these dudebros are so adamant of how much they couldn't give less of a shit about the situations, what's the point of even bothering to want to get their input? It's just weird.
Lio may be a moralfag but at least he actually does seem to care or at least feign it anyway.
No. 2099037
>>2098988>’woe is me nobody cares about me I've been self harming and binge eating and puking cause I'm so sad'Her whole cycle of getting mild criticism and then immediately threatening suicide or self harm gives me vibes of people like Puppychan. How old is Nezzie? 25 or getting there? Yet she’s perpetually acting like a teenage crybully
>>2097491>unless these people were looking at something like gore porn or something extreme like thatTo be fair Toasty sent some gross shit like cock vore/sounding images and art of it and apparently sent nudes where he photoshopped tits (especially weird knowing Toasty tried to rebrand as “trans woman” and under the name Ruby which was totally not fake or an AGP thing)
>That aside, the comments are fucking kek at these people calling this grown ass woman with he/him pronouns and some even saying that she's a manAgreed it’s ridiculous, even Lio draws her character with tits in his thumbnail and Nezzie does the same with her character. I think she’s “genderfluid/all pronouns” but she’s one of those people who whines “transphobia” whenever she’s called only she. I mean seriously she could at least try to make her character looks androgynous. Not that I’m supporting Doodletones or Lin Lin but at least those two and people in the community similar to them had the decency to at least try to make their characters look somewhat feminine and at least tried to sound like women (albeit sounding like chipmunks), Nezzie can’t even be assed to do that much
No. 2099222
>>2099195Ayrt, I've watched these guys since the Hopeless Peaches fallout back in early 2024 though mostly Cope and Seethe because like I mentioned in the other post, I find Chris very abrasive. The meat of my annoyance and bewilderment with these moids is that even if they are "laughing at retards on the internet", they still feel the need to subtly grandstand on certain things like yeah with Akumu who by their standards, should be another "retard on the internet" to laugh at and back during the Lio Convoy fallout with Hopeless Peaches, they (well Cope & Seethe) did comment on how Hopeless Peaches was vindictive and to me it's like, why would you care? This is just entertainment right?
But most of all, I just get tired of them constantly feeling the need to remind their audience that they don't care about the drama and it's like okay we get that, now shut the fuck up and just do your point and laugh, we don't need to keep hearing about how much you don't care about the people or topic, it's redundant.
No. 2100872
>>2099944Probably under Zaid's orders I'm guessing
Cartoonshi should mobilize his entire fanbase against Zaid and drive him off the internet for good, no one likes Zaid anyway
No. 2101158
>>2101100yea, the acc are a funny bunch. most of them are pieces of shit but, it's rare to find a person who actually cares about others and doesn't buy into their virtue signaling nonsense.
also, nezzie leaving the internet was inevitable. especially with the way she handled the fck drama, she got her ass handed to her by akumu and has left the internet in shame. which is pretty funny but, i do hope they can try to improve. get away from all of the acc in general. terminally online faggots and white woke troons, keep on flooding the discourse, i guess.
No. 2101270
>>2101100>>2101158Honestly I don't see Nezzie leaving the internet because she's very terminally online and it doesn't sound like she has much of a personal life. I have a feeling she's going to do what Hopeless Peaches did and try to be a new person.
I mean Doodletones didn't leave so I can't imagine Nezzie leaving neither, for all we know they are still talking behind the scenes.
No. 2101388
>>2096933I finally got around to watching this video and at first I was kinda digging her and it helped that I'm closer to her age as I'm 4 years younger than her and it's always nice to find fellow art commentary type channels that are in their 30s and are still into animation. But as I kept watching, through her commentary I saw that she supports retarded gender ideology (referring to Lily Orchard as "she/her") and "transmasc NB" so that was strike one and strike two was her not knowing much of the context of the dramas that had been happening in ACC yet wants to talk about it. I guess the gender BS shouldn't be surprising because she's a Steven Universe fangirl but as for her commentary, it means nothing if she doesn't know the context about them.
I didn't bother with the Lily Orchard stuff because I ignore anything that involves him so I'm not aware of how bad her commentary was/is on him but going off this first impression through the stream you shared, she's not great. If she's going to talk about ACC stuff, she needs to do what Leigha Something did and watch previous videos and/or streams to understand the context.
>I'm not sure if she's better for here or the western industry cows threadI think if she continues to talk more about the ACC type stuff, she's good for here. The vidrel is relevant for this thread whereas the Lily Orchard stuff would be better for the western animation cows thread.
No. 2101862
>>2100872>Probably under Zaid's orders I'm guessingCartoonshi should mobilize his entire fanbase against Zaid and drive him off the internet for good, no one likes Zaid anyway
Cartoonshi’s kind of a clown too for many reasons, the relevant one being he suspiciously only said shit about Lio once the Peaches doc dropped and the backlash amplified back when people believed Peaches, but Misanthro Pony is just an absolute clown at this rate. He’s better for the western industry cows thread but it’s telling that Lio gave him so many ass pats and second chances for years when he was out there telling people that he would beat their teeth in with a brick and alogging them in other ways. Only when Cartoonshi (someone with a larger platform than Lio) was involved did Lio get off his ass and do anything. Thought not that Misanthro’s other whoever-the-fucks with a hatred for him are much better kek
No. 2106347
>>2106259i cannot wait for this to be covered up by gilded poo and all of this friends. they just think that lio did nothing too major and that, he's just putting people in their place or whatever.
lio has never changed. i doubt his apology wasn't genuine if he keeps on doing shit like this.
also, didn't he abuse his "adopted" daughters? why does he still have a platform after all that?
No. 2106399
>>2106259It’s been obvious for a while that Lio’s back at his bullshit ever since Ephrom released that video on the 542nd SCC groomer and included a clip of Lio in it. He hasn’t quit predator hunting and I highly doubt he’s actually gotten therapy, his therapy sessions are as real as Doodle’s are
>>2106347>i cannot wait for this to be covered up by gilded poo and all of this friendsGilded is the prime example of having no standards. He accused Ephrom of being a sexual harasser and went hard against Lio but the second Senate falls out of public scrutiny he takes it all back and him and Lio are the best of friends, that’s not a coincidence he was clearly just going for attention and got defensive cus Lio called him out for spamming weird gore scat zoo porn at people
>also, didn't he abuse his "adopted" daughters? why does he still have a platform after all that?As far as I’m aware Jordyn/Mint Heart and Pink/Jay were the only ones who were abused and Lio only responded with a “no u” to them, Opal claimed he wasn’t
abusive and he revealed Peaches was two faced. I don’t know if Jordyn and Jay have made up with him though because all these people who whined about Lio being “
abusive and crazy” like Rin have gone to kiss his ass now because this community is allergic to consistency. He only got away with it because he didn’t sexually abuse them so he’s only getting by with a “not as bad as he possibly could’ve been”.
Lio’s KF thread has been getting more active as of late as well and it’s definitely worth keeping an eye on (you don’t need an account to see it anymore, thankfully)
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/retroblasting-productions-michael-d-french-thomas-lioconvoy-guerra.149934/page-42 No. 2106588
>>2106347TBH no one really believed he did. Sure he may not yell as much as he did in the Senate but his ego never went away. He's a fat neckbeard who has nothing really to show for himself and doing this "pred hunting" is the only thing that makes him feel like he has meaning in his boring life. He's just pathetic because what does he expect to accomplish with this? He's not a cop, he's not any sort of authoritarian and he's just lucky he has these dumb ass kids who don't know any better. Yes I'm aware the guy in the call is 18 but compared to a man approach 40, it's a vast difference.
>>2106399Pretty sure his "therapy" is just over Discord and talking to one of his friends, not an actual licensed full-on therapist.
>Gilded is the prime example of having no standards. He accused Ephrom of being a sexual harasser and went hard against Lio but the second Senate falls out of public scrutiny he takes it all back and him and Lio are the best of friends, that’s not a coincidence he was clearly just going for attention and got defensive cus Lio called him out for spamming weird gore scat zoo porn at people Yeah it seems that Poo just swings whichever the court of public opinion goes, kinda like JAR but with edgier speech with his whole "I don't really care about this" and "I didn't want to make a video about this but-" I wouldn't pay mind to this as much if he stayed consistent but the fact he all of a sudden is buddy buddy with Lio shows his convictions aren't that strong.
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something tells me that this isn't gonna end well for lio lmao
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>>2106944Ant is a rape apologist btw
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>>2107153Yes, Lio convoy is also friends with former zoophiles who destroy hard drives. Everyone involved is disgusting.
No. 2107438
>>2107278i don't think spoctor is a pedo for the hard drive thing. sure, he shouldn't have kept it but, making him out to be a creep because of that, was extremely autistic and retarded. everyone in the ACC made him out to be an epstein of some sort, even though he isn't.
i heard that spoctor got a job in the IT field so, i'm glad that he got away from that
toxic hellhole.
also, it's funny how he wants to make spoctor out to be a predator yet, he'll hang out with gilded and forgive his faggot ass. if we went by lio's logic, wouldn't gilded be considered a zoophile? talk about consistency..
No. 2107534
>>2106944I remember this Anthony Gramuglia guy from the Lily Orchard drama. He made a bunch of video calling out some takes Lily had on Pokémon or whatever the fuck and eventually started cow tipping on Lily’s tumblr to get Lily to talk about him. Eventually it spiraled into him getting copyright strikes on his response videos and sending Lily money on stream to try and start some debate and it got so bad to the point where Courtney (Lily’s sister and rape
victim) told him that his behavior was ridiculous and she didn’t like him sending money to her rapist and him and that Sai girl tried to paint her as crazy for calling them out, note that they both also sat on their asses when Courtney tried to get them to spread awareness of not only her own story but also the stories of minors who claimed to have been groomed by Lily. If he does call Lio out I give it a month or two before he makes an ass of himself before they go to kissing each other’s asses because Lio seems to hypnotize everyone into woobifying him, this
>>2107153 is not helping matters at all. There’s a stream of Courtney talking about it that’s linked
>>2107214See when Leigha brought up Gilded destroying the hard drive I was under the impression that he just had a drive that had weird pictures on it (he does predator hunting and lolcow content so I’d figure he’d have evidence of their shit) and that he destroyed the hard drive and Lio was just over exaggerating a normal troll raid in Serafina’s server but nope he had a full on hard drive of NecroZoo porn. I remember Metokur Fembot (yes the one that LARPed as Creepshow Art and defended her years ago) posting a picture Gilded apparently had and it wasn’t just some weird furry shit, it was a real life picture of a chicken being decapitated and the hole in its neck having a penis stuck inside of it like Jfc that’s the type of person they all wanna defend?
>>2107278,
>>2107438You both make a good point, Spoctor saving nudes as a teenager from another teen around his own age and then deleting it the second he remembered he had it is apparently some unforgivable crime but Gilded saving pictures of dead animal corpses being raped is fine? It’s not even like Spoctor was getting off on it as an adult or anything so Lio can’t say “well Gilded is different because he’s not attracted to it”. Is Lio just operating on “it’s legal therefore it’s ok” or something (though I’m not sure if laws about beastiality/necro/rape content and CP are the same where Gilded/Lio live)? Then again given how Lio sat on his ass about Coyote and associating with people who have allegations of being pro-Zoo (such as Stallion Slaughter / Slaughter Pony and Ephrom) I doubt he actually cares as much about zoophilia as he claims
No. 2107576
>>2107534ehh, i disagree with your take on courtney. i think she's a deranged, mentally ill, sociopath, who likes hurting people and being an ass towards others.
sure, ant made himself look like a bit of an fool but, he still had good intentions in the end. lio and courtney are nothing but
toxic abusers who want to have power and bully others into doing their bidding.
courtney is one of those freaks who uses their victimhood as a weapon against people, if they do so much as to question her. she's a fucked up person who nobody should listen to at this point, she got her clout from being the
victim of lily orchard, just leave that hoe in the dust.
No. 2107635
>>2107534>Spoctor saving nudes as a teenager from another teen around his own age and then deleting it the second he remembered he had it is apparently some unforgivable crime but Gilded saving pictures of dead animal corpses being raped is fine?It really shows the tone-deafness of it all when you say it out loud. Like I mentioned in
>>2107530 there had been no evidence of Spoctor being inappropriate with minors in the present time when the drama was taking place and it really did feel like it was just an honest mistake of him holding onto old files to the point of forgetting what he had which is something a lot of us can relate with. Nevermind that the photo was from when he was a minor himself. Meanwhile Gilded is a lot older and was actually looking at shit like what you mentioned (II had no idea that was the level of it btw, gross). I'm around the same age as him and you can't make the excuse of "that stuff was normal to see in the old internet" because it wasn't, you had to go to the darkest pits of internet depravity to find shit like that evven back in the late 2000s to 2010s.
>Then again given how Lio sat on his ass about Coyote and associating with people who have allegations of being pro-Zoo (such as Stallion Slaughter / Slaughter Pony and Ephrom) I doubt he actually cares as much about zoophilia as he claimsI think you're right about this, he feigns concern for it but considering the company he keeps, he more than likely doesn't care that much compared to CP because people will view things done to humans vs animals in different levels. I think also because you're more likely to find creeps with CP vs zoo/bestiality but again, considering the kind of people Lio associates with, that line has to be a lot more blurred than the average internet geek.
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>>2107953Here’s the post, they still follow each other so she’s lying and trying to make things muddy.
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>>2107969Either way, monsteress is now saying they will be calling out lio for silencing them, who knows where this will go
No. 2108119
>>2108048i feel bad for lio's wife. i am sure she's probably depressed over the fact that her fat ass husband is spending his free time on discord, flirting with other women, when he should be spending some time with her.
i still don't know why lio's wife hasn't left him after all of the hopeless peaches shit. bro spent thousands and thousands on that hoe, instead of his wife.
No. 2108233
>>2108222With how much antics her lame-ass husband has gotten involved in and she has to witness it from the side, she must have low self-esteem because her husband is a terminally online loser. I can understand if they initially got together because they had shared interests because she does strike me as someone who is into geek culture (more than likely anime) but come on girl, love yourself lol. It would be one thing if it was just him getting in stupid dick measuring piss matches but the fact that there's also potential home-wrecking involved like with how Lio was with Hopeless Peaches and now Monstress, like that would be the final straw for me personally.
I just pray for her sake that Lio really is a different person outside the internet because sweet Jesus lol.
No. 2108260
>>2108119She, like many of the other partners of cows, made a choice and most likely genuinely doesn’t give a shit unless it affects her public image irl. It’s beyond me why people assume someone who
lives and fornicates with these types are somehow either sped levels ignorant or supposedly so low in esteem it renders them
victims when really they’re enablers who chose what they chose. Nobody is holding a gun to that womans head, she’s one of millions that will suck the peen of a degenerate for some company.
No. 2108319
>>2108279i cannot wait for lio to screw up again and then the backlash continues for him.
also, i bet people are gonna be like, "but the
victims forgave him!!!" even though, he did some really irredeemable shit towards people over the years. bro has bullied minors and mentally disabled people. bro expects us to forgive him and let this go? nah.
only time will tell, that's all i gotta say.
No. 2108339
>>2108260Eh I guess you're right. I wasn't necessarily inferring that she's some helpless
victim in a hostage situation (kek), it's just funny how a man like Lio could be married. At the very least, thank god they don't have kids (yet?). Could you imagine if your father was Lio? a grown ass man playing mall cop on the internet and you'd have to hear yelling in the next room during the weekend while you're doing your homework? lol.
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>>2108279lol at the censorship failures. Neko Koda (that person that Doodletones made a multi hour video on) is the other person that people were drawing a bunch of R34 rape art of. Ephrom is another person that Rin was having issues with ever since late 2022 cuz he sided with the SCC and the rest of the censored names (pointlessly censored because it’s very easy to find the tweets made by these SCC whoever the fucks) are just random SCC ass kissers or people who got canceled like Hiten
>>2108319Rin’s whole pattern of switching between whether or not people are Satan incarnate or innocent angels isn’t anything new. Beyond the aforementioned Lio, Ephrom, and SCC situations Rin also was friendly with Toasty Vanilla in like 2021 and apologized for “slandering him” only to go back and claim to be pressured into forgiving him when the FCK leaks came out and was one of Peaches’ biggest white knights until she went against Rin in late 2022. Rin was even posting fanart of Lio in early 2024 before later claiming to be traumatized and feel abused by him ever since 2022, and I highly doubt it was a “I thought he was still trustworthy until the FCK leaks” thing. You can see it as far back as the Mari Akutsu situation in the day of when Rin was Only Jesp / Fishlizard where Mari and Rin were best friends one minute, then Mari was evil and a predator, then Rin was oh so sorry to Mari all of a sudden when JAR started defending Mari. Even in this very situation you’ll notice Rin is swinging back and forth about how “oh these people aren’t all bad I’m gonna censor some of their names to be nice” all in the same breath of accusing the SCC of a deranged years long harassment campaign. Not to say the SCC isn’t full of weirdos and cult-like mentalities but have some consistency for 5 seconds dear god
No. 2108900
>>2108793RIN WAS ONLYJESP?? what the fuck..
like why is rin so weird?? and why would they call mari a predator? all because of a long doccument that contained only a few words and the rest were screenshots? even if the minor did alot worse than mari, mari is still at fault? makes no sense..
this is why i hate the acc. i hope the community burns more than it already has.
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>>2107953The comments in question. Gilded seemed to comment positively which was weird but I didn’t bother to include it because his was mostly innocuous. Anthony and Sai commented as well and that no name from the Jax also showed their face. What I think is funny about Zak’s comment is that it really shows how little Lio and his gang have actually changed, I mean he’s still sticking by the “Barbea isn’t a real lawyer” shit with Stardust went over because he can’t cope with the fact that he got called out for being an awful “predator hunter” and that Lio had to get Zak to do this instead of showing his own face in the comments
>>2108900Surprised you didn’t know Rin used to be Jesp since it’s been mentioned before but yeah I’ve seen the shit Rin has been getting into ever since 2021. Not that Mari wasn’t an absolute idiot in the 500 page doc situation (also apparently Mari rebranded as a “trans man” ever notice these people always come out as trans when they’re trying to pretend to be someone else) but Rin’s constant switching in that situation was mind numbing. Apparently Rin and Eden were friendly for a while as well only for Rin to switch up on Eden too, I get the feeling Rin becoming butt buddies with Lio had something to do with that
>>2108924Really not beating the allegations of being some creep who stalks people. Sai’s 40 so at least Lio can’t use the “I’M OLDER THAN YOU, I KNOW BETTER” shit on her but Sai’s also incompetent so I don’t have much hope she’ll do much of anything in the way of calling him out
No. 2109110
>>2108985oh jeez.. i'm sure lio is manipulating them somehow. i can feel it.
>>2108909this isn't the
toxic yaoi i wanted
>>2108989ponder keeps on hiding away from it. she'll learn eventually that, she cannot run away from it anymore lol
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>>2109392Adding onto this, I went to go look at her social blade and it looks like she privated vids around March 17th. I can't remember how many views the Akumu video was at, but it had over 100k. Looks like she may have privated multiple videos.
No. 2109759
>>2109744Kai is more likeable than Lio the same way regular poop is better than diarrhea. They're both shit at the end of the day, it just comes down to Kai not being as much as a degenerate. Lio said he was done with shit and went right back 1
month later, Kai has atleast exclusively fucked off to Twitter.
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>>2109770Some comments of interest. Lio being a creep at monstress is a troll. Everyone is being taken for a ride. Such an ingenious deflect
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>>2109825Watched this and made a recap, haven’t done the same for Chuuli’s video yet. This video mainly focused on the actions of someone named Avi Haltmann and the SCC (similar to Chuuli’s) before going into SeptyPaws’ degeneracy and a sexual harassment campaign
>Intro is some context like Doodle calling Rin racist, Gilded said Rin and Nezzie should both kill themselves, and the SCC wiki put Rin in the same category as predators>Feels bad about blowing up at people and getting triggered over small shit like Among Us >Points out Avi’s hypocrisy about sexual harassment in a video Avi made calling out CarmenRider despite mocking Rin’s genitals>Avi mentioned Rin obsessively in unrelated shit and went back when he made apologies and subtweeted Rin many times>Talks about when Junkie accused Rin of doxxing over boosting a GFM that PrisonMateLuke linked and that Avi, 2Jun, and others shit talked the video Rin made talking about it in late 2021 in Doodletones’ cloud palace server. Jun, FracturedLight, and JPBones were the only ones who apologized for this. They called Rin a pissbaby often>Chuuli, Avi, and Rin had a call about the doc that Rin made on Jun. Avi compared Rin to Vii Omega, a groomer and rapist that groomed Chuuli and Avi coerced a then 17 year old Chuuli to agree with it>Junkie apologized to Rin in January and admitted to lying about the doxxing>Rin apologized under the name Weyrwhulf, Avi proceeded to make up theories about Unl1sted (a defender of Rin) trying to fuck Rin, Rin tried apologize in DMs and Avi chewed Rin out>Jun admitted that Rin didn’t dox them because Jun’s real name was semi-public as part of an old username>They didn’t accept any apology Rin gave and got upset at Rin name dropping Jun in the Junkie video but thought not mentioning Jun’s name wasn’t good enough>Didn’t want to be defended because it could cause more harassment>Avi did something to ElliiMoMellii that Ellie asked not to be made public >Jun sent Rin something Ephrom said and an apology from Avi, Avi went back on it a couple months later>Rin responded to Avi’s thread and a bunch of tards from the SCC spammed #Jesp on Twitter in response, one called dark red (actual name Donnimation) had a meltdown and said Rin made them think they died and went to hell>Donnimation thought Rin accused them of being an abuser over something out of context and apologized for comparing Rin’s action to Donni’s murderer during a psychotic episode >Doodle may have been the one to take Rin out of context in that situation>Calls out Avi’s hypocrisy in the CarmenRider video again and his contact with Feghost>Avi accused Rin of faking suicide to get out of drama despite Rin not having been faking it and supporting Nezzie who does the same>Someone was making rape art of Rin and Neko Koda (Koda’s name isn’t mentioned). Peaches encouraged Rin to confront the artist and yelled in call while Rin was trying to talk to this person, calling Rin a pussy and making Rin have a meltdown. Peaches yet again proving she is a fake mental healthy advocate to the point>Lumitro checked to make sure Rin was ok after the call>Rin was one of the people Peaches scammed out of thousands of dollars>The #Jesp hashtag incident happened shortly after this, so Rin mentally wasn’t doing well during the situation>Boonslayer (dark purple) knew what happened and that Rin wasn’t doing well but still supported the hashtag>Rin’s Mom and Aunt had to get involved>SeptyPaws (an ex-friend of Rin and Neko Koda who beefed with CarmenRider) gave an apology to Rin for not being there and for posting rape art of CarmenRider with Luke and Kai>Septy later got outed for drawing porn of real life children>Rin while being offline dealt with an abusive dad, step-mom, and step-brother and an uncaring therapist >A trans person told Rin not to care about the Scrote Avi’s comments about Rin’s genitals and it led to Rin trying to pretend to be ok with going by she>People harassed Rin by spamming Rin’s accounts with beastiality, rape, and impersonated people like Neko Koda pretending to enjoy their rape >When confronted by CallMeNil the harassers admitted to getting off to stories of women successfully being raped>Rin’s step brother outed Rin’s sexual assault to their father and he told Rin to ignore it>Avi accused MangaKamen of being a pedophile, admitted to being a compulsive liar, and he made more sexual harassment comments behind the scenesAlso Rin made a comment about MariAkutsu, wonder if Rin’s lurking since this was added shortly after Lolcow started talking about it
No. 2109852
>>2109770a part of me wants to believe chuuli but, another part thinks that this could've been an over-exaggeration of some sort. like sure, avi is a freak. but, i am kinda suspect of chuuli. maybe i'm doing the smart thing of not believing allegations immediately but, idk man. i fully believe that anyone can abuse everyone but, knowing what avi said about being a compulsive liar, i don't know what to trust.
>>2109834yeah, rin seems bitter enough to go through this thread. rin, if you're reading this, please get some sun and touch some grass! you shouldn't focus on reading unhinged comments from obscure drama imageboards.
No. 2109970
>>2109955i respect your opinion and i understand your perspective. added on to that, i've seen what those people are like. they will often overexaggerate things and make themselves the only
victim. and when you are even the TINEST bit of skeptical, you get cancelled for not believing
victims.
other than that, avi and his friends are freaks and retards. enough said.
No. 2110441
>>2109770Call me a tad apathetic but as an oldfag who's been on the internet for close to two and half decades, as inappropriate as all the stuff Chuuli went through, I just can't bring myself to care too much. Not because I think these moids are blameless, no doubt they were being gross creeps but all that this situation shows to me as mid 30 something is that this is why kids should not be on social media but unfortunately with where the first world is in the world, it's just unrealistic to forbid kids & teens being online in these spaces. Chuuli going on and on and emphasizing that she and others were "children", all I can say is "Yeah and?" It' sounds so dismissive I know and I feel bad for that but at this point in time, it should be clear that adults, especially some adult moids don't care if you're a child or not. Creepsters like these have been around since the AOL chatroom days and we were told to stay away from these guys by simply bailing out of chats when these creeps would start being inappropriate or just blocking them altogether and with where I'm standing, the rules are still the same today.
These teens should've practiced common sense and left the Discord when these creeps showed themselves. It's incredibly naive to believe that they'll be dealt with every time because unfortunately that's just not going to happen because the unfortunate truth is that the saying "it's not our job to raise your kids on the internet" is so very true, especially with these moids.
I understand that Chuuli went through a hard time and I'm glad she's out but I think she really underestimates how little most people care about teens being on the internet and getting involved in places they shouldn't have been. And the thing is you can't always blame the parents in situations like this because they can only check their kids social media activity so much and will be bound to miss something.
I just hope that any young'ins watching Chuuli's video will take from her experience and know better.
No. 2110443
>>2110441or most of them could be exaggerating for asspats online. ever since mutiple false allegations have happened online, over the years, i stopped believing them outright and just stayed neutral until bigger stuff came out.
people think i'm an asshole for thinking that way but, i don't give a fuck, nigga. the internet is a trashfire, not a daycare.
No. 2110446
>>2110443AYRT and I'm glad it's not just me. I've been hearing these stories for years now and my sympathy is growing dimmer each time because there is no excuse to let things escalate this much. No, I don't care if you're a "child" or not, you're 15-17 and you more than likely have learned internet safety be it from school and/or your parents. I would deal with creeps on DeviantART and MySpace back then and I would not engage with them at all, I would simply block, report, and warn my friends not to engage with said crepe. These teens nowadays finding themselves in these situations are knowingly committing the mistake of continuing to engage with the creeps and/or staying in the spaces they reside in. I know Discord is not like DeviantART but fuck it, you can still leave servers on Discord that are running with creeps just like you could block creeps on DeviantART.
With Chuuli talking about how she was talking with adult men while she was 14-17, my biggest thought to this is WHY was she continuing to engage with them in the first place, especially when they were bringing up sexual topics? Did her parents not tell her to engage with strangers, especially grown men on the internet? People will say I'm
victim blaming but fuck it, I just want to know why aren't these girls following the rules that the generation before them learned and try to pass down to them?
>the internet is a trashfire, not a daycare.Exactly. It's tough but it's the truth and this is what gen z need to understand. The internet at the end of the day is still the same as it was in the early 2000s where it's a wasteleand full of creeps and depravity and you're naive to think that all the people who use the internet will babysit you just because you're a child, you're dead wrong. Make better choices, use common sense.
Also maybe I'm being an asshole in thinking this but considering how most of this stuff is all online and not IRL, I can't help but feel like the issues is not as bad as it could be. Thankfully a lot of this drama didn't move to the real world for these people so all that happened was on the computer and well, it's a bit silly to me for people to truly internalize internet drama and let it destroy their mental health. It's very terminally online behavior. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that feelings can't be had as we all have made internet friends who we feel positive with whenever we talk but I dunno, the drama like grooming stuff… I dunno how to really think about it, it's just too foreign for me but then again, I never talked to with fucking creeps.
No. 2110631
At the risk of sounding like an emotional fag and retard, I can’t help but feel bad for Rin. Her upbringing tracks for anyone that typically can get groomed online and I feel like all these things could’ve been avoided if she had irl friends and family members that gave a shit about her. My only critique is that at some point, you HAVE to log off and seek a community outside the internet.
>>2110446Also kek I really want gen z to be split into two because there’s a huge difference between early gen z and the chronically online later gen z.
No. 2110663
>>2110631Sure, I can sympathize to a degree with Rin's situation. I don't know all the details but I've heard that her home life wasn't great. Now granted, I don't think her "transphobia" she faced from her dad (I think?) was
valid because he was just being real with her in saying that she's not a boy or man and never will be one and that's just instilling reality but everything else? Sure. But just like you pointed out, there came a point where she should've logged off. She could've taken a break and touch grass by getting out of the house, we all need those social media detoxes at some point.
>Also kek I really want gen z to be split into two because there’s a huge difference between early gen z and the chronically online later gen z.Sure, I've noticed how it's mostly gen z born after 98, maybe 99 who act like chronically online types who get involved in this kind of drama, early gen z seem to have been just in time to get the common sense trickled after the youngest of the millennials. I just had to mention the gen z thing because it does my head in when I hear how old these people are from 19-25 kek. And it seems like this crap is still ongoing teenagers now are repeating the same mistakes like that Juni person.
No. 2110680
>>2110663Ayrt. Yeah I don’t care about the “transphobia” she faced, but I think her some life sucked and pushed her into online spaces in the first place. Having an awful step mom and an uncaring father is extremely common.
As for the gen z divide, I’ll place ‘97-2002 as early gen z and everyone as late gen Z, since I see bullshit like “neo pronouns” , “reality shifting” and other nonsense more common with people born in those years. And gen alpha is a total mess
No. 2110759
>>2110441I agree as well, the more stories came out the less i started to care about what these people went through, honestly you could switch the
victims story with another
victims story, and it will probably have the same beat to it to where it would be impossible to tell the difference.
They focused more on developing their art skills rather than developing common sense.
No. 2110819
>>2110759Kek at what you said at the end, that's honestly the pitiful truth and it's a shame that they can't just do both a lot of the time. And again, considering how most of this stuff only stayed online makes it all the more sad because all they had to do was not engage and take a break from social media, it's not hard to do that.
Also am I the only one who cringes when these people make their call out videos and say "they ended their career" when like 99% of the time, this isn't a career? I heard this phrase used about Lio with how he "ended his career" with the drama he was involved in and I'm just like, youTube isn't his career, what the fuck are you talking about? Lio sucks ass but moid does have a full-time job outside of YouTube. FFS, just because someone makes videos on YouTube doesn't mean it's their career, come on now kek.
No. 2110882
>>2110441I'll counter you with that for her she explicitly says that it was normalized for her, and that can lead to it being more dangerous if things more offline like they have many times. I'm also Gen Z, but a 90's so I'm on the older side and I can recall just simply ending chats with creeps when they cropped up. It still does fall on the adults being degenerates at the end of the day. Chuuli sounds like she's recounting the weird shit scrotes have done so I have a bit more empathy vs, someone like Hiten who had a mental breakdown over Spoctor "tone policing" her because he (rightly) thought she was being over dramatic about Junkie spreading lies about her and "ending her internet career".
I'm gonna sound like a dick, but I still can't believe people were genuinely giving Hiten ass pats for that. She was a grown ass woman throwing a fit over Junkie spreading lies about her and then blew a gasket when Spoctor didn't kiss her ass enough.
No. 2110889
>>2110882i think both chuuli and hiten are bad but, hiten is ALOT worse.
also is it me or am i getting fed up with the virtue signaling in the ACC/SCC? like every single week, it's constant drama and allegations. like, jesus christ. i'm just so fed up with every single member in there, acting like they're jesus christ while their targets are worse than hitler.
this is why i think commentary youtube is alot like CNN. just full of fake news and reactionary lies.
No. 2110934
>>2110882Ayrt and my question for Chuuli still stands on why did she stay around the multiple men who started pushing sexual chat onto her. I know that she says it was normalized for her but I'm talking more about the first instant should've been the wake up call that she needed to disengage with the creeps and stop talking. I can admit that it's one of those 50/50 situations where on the one hand, she was young and naive while on the other, she should've had the common sense to not continue talking with adults pushing sex chat onto them even if she was 14. I was on MySpace when I was 14 and I sometimes would have grown men trying to ask where I lived or for pics and I never gave in to them because I remembered what my parents said about not talking with older people on there as it was part of the deal on how i could have the privilege to have my profile. And again, same with my DeviantART with receiving creepy notes including a few times of guys blatantly asking me about kinks and fetishes on there, i just simply did not engage at all.
I'm not saying that the adults in these situation are blameless, all I'm saying is that like another anon said, the internet is a trashfire and a lot of adults who use, especially creeps, do not care about whether you're a child or not and because of the anonymity, they will do what they do which is why it's just as important for minors using it to act accordingly with the simple fact of not sharing personal info and knowing when to not engage with certain people. And because it's so common in the art commentary community, it just baffles me.
>>2110889>also is it me or am i getting fed up with the virtue signaling in the ACC/SCC? like every single week, it's constant drama and allegations. like, jesus christ. i'm just so fed up with every single member in there, acting like they're jesus christ while their targets are worse than hitler.It's not just you, I feel this way as well. These stories come out seemingly every week with "such and such groomed me" or "I was SA'd by such and such" (and then it's not actual SA, just them drawing NSFW at a young age) and so on. This is why I cannot with these people because it's fucking common sense, when you're 14-15, you will still have a base for what is right and wrong when it comes to extremes like that. I know some of them have autism but I have autism as well and I still didn't engage with creeps so it's not really a good excuse.
No. 2111185
>>2110934I agree when chuuli talks about stuff and how grown men were abusing her I just kinda roll my eyes and think she should've just shut off discord. However, I did used to watch her old stuff from back then (her name was something else vazbuchin or something like it) similarly to Rin she had disinterested parents (I say disinterested but she claimed
abusive I think but it was "doesn't respect my pronouns!" Kind of "abuse" so not counting it) and no IRL friends and some of these degenerate moids in question were integrated into the art ACC friend group she had so I can't completely disregard what she went through as her not knowing when to turn off the computer and stop replying.
No. 2111272
>>2111185I didn't know that about Chuuli's past so thanks for the clear up but…
>I say disinterested but she claimed abusive I think but it was "doesn't respect my pronouns!" Kind of "abuse" so not counting itYeah no, I wouldn't count that neither. you know with these ACC zoomers who claim they have
abusive parents, I wonder if the parents were really
abusive or if they were just strict and just being you know, parents. I've heard stories from some of these zoomers with how they believe they are abused when their parents confiscate their phones, laptops, and/or game consoles for example. And if the parent is "disinterested", I wonder what they mean by that. My parents didn't care about my hobbies (I was a weeb, it was the 2000s lol) but I knew that they still cared and loved me even if we didn't have things in common. I'm just very curios what this disinterest or abuse entails with these people.
>no IRL friends and some of these degenerate moids in question were integrated into the art ACC friend group she had so I can't completely disregard what she went through as her not knowing when to turn off the computer and stop replying.Believe me, I get it, I really do. But still, I would assume that Chuuli and the other young girls in the ACC had each other, they had friendship among themselves and from that regard, I don't understand why any of them would put up with the older creeper moids who were making them feel genuinely uncomfortable. So what if the moid made a call out post about them, no sane person would take their side when they're the ones being gross creeps. One thing I will totally understand with Chuuli was when she admitted she had a crush on one of them and in that instance, I can understand why it was hard for her to cut him off, especially with the contextual background you shared about her home situation. Mixing social awkward/autistic teenager girls who don't have the best self image to then meet up with manipulative moid who gives them even the slightest positive affirmation, it's not a good mix at all.
No. 2111472
>>21114071. is he really back on the predator hunting game? i thought he was going to stop.
2. unlike what avi did, i feel like chuuli is over-exaggerating what kayden did. all because kayden had one slip up with them and now he's considered a "dangerous degenerate" by lio and his troon butt-buddies.
whenever lio calls someone a pedophile or a predator, it's a somewhat high chance that he's either lying or over-exaggerating for views. this is the same guy who defended a groomer because, the
victim wanted to troll the acc.
3. he is also bullying a mentally disabled person again. this time he's doing it for "justice and accountability". this is just rosa again but, the target is "more justified" apparently.
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Lio is crashing out on Bluesky at people trolling him about him being a jerk.
No. 2111516
>>2111490its much more pathetic, lio is crashing out over someone that left the SCC with the person saying how happy their life is after leaving, and lio's response is to go after them by saying how they didnt care about
victims enough and that they are part of the problem and that they were an enabler, which is really rich coming from lio, and along with that rin is also going after them as well, despite saying they were done with all of this.
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>>2111531ayrt, its because lio needs to be the one to have the last talking point in the argument, to him if hes in control of the entire conversation, then he is in the right and doing something morally right, despite how bad his ways of doing things are. Any kind of gotcha is a win in his book even if the person took accountability on their own accord was done years ago. its really ironic cause this argument that lios saying could be said right back to him, he still does his predator hunting bullshit despite claiming how hes not doing it and will lash out if anyone calls him out on the way he handled or doing things. This person already dealt with things in the past and was moving on, but lio doesn't care, he wont move on, they'll bring it back up just to morally grandstand on it, but if you call lio out for it "that was already addressed, its in the past, move on from it"
its all so tiresome
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>>2111490Another SCC person made a thread on Souvlivvy, apparently this person defended this guy named LwqwydUuz that Ephrom called out in
>>2083926, given how Lio is teasing the release of a call with this person I think it’s safe to say this is the latest SCC bullshit. I remember this Livvy individual going around by the name Umbrus and being a pal of Doodle’s back in like 2020 and constantly starting shit in the community, it doesn’t shock me that it’s all blowing up in Livvy’s face now
https://bsky.app/profile/fracturedlight4.bsky.social/post/3lnk2dupbhs2m>>2111531Believe it or not yes in this community it’s extremely normal for grown adults to be hanging around literal children. In that Raven Pines call I remember Doodle, FracturedLight, and Souvlivvy saying they had people as young as 11 in their servers. Disturbing as fuck, especially knowing how many predators have been outed, I definitely think there’s some horrifying shit happening behind the scenes
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It appears that doodletones fucked off completely, privating all their videos except for the goodbye one
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>>2111601Highly doubt this is it, Doodle is seemingly still around and apparently was messaging with Rin not long ago, apparently Doodle gave an apology for calling Rin racist. Wonder if finally just deleting all the videos was the advice of Doodle’s “therapist”
https://bsky.app/profile/chronicsadboihours.bsky.social/post/3lmv7mmb6mk2z>>2111533Yeah, as bad as I felt for Rin for being sexually harassed by a bunch of porn addicted scrotes and for the actual rape it’s very clear that they have no actual standards and don’t actually care much about doxxing (despite apparently having been a
victim of it) as long as Rin and the people who try to do it are butt buddies
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>>2111627more from rin, she is pleading for everyone to not go after livvy, even pointing out how they are mentally ill and were groomed too
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>>2111852Well it’s good to see that rin is less willing to scream at a 19 year old for hours on blue sky . It’s good to see them move on. Luckily we have chronically online step dad to make Rin look bad by association.
No. 2111904
>>2111884Exactly, remember that this community used to be called the "DeviantART ranting community", the people are still the same, it's just that the dramas have moved to Twitter & and now BlueSky as opposed to DeviantART.
Also some have pointed out that some of these people have migrated to the VTuber community so they are bound to bring this baggage with them there as well.
No. 2111908
>>2111852THEN WHY DID YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS HARASS THEM TO BEGIN WITH??? you and your friends deadass implied that they defended a predator but, as soon as people get their pitchforks out, you tell them to stop? that's like shooting someone but, hiding the gun and telling others not to look for it.
god this is idiotic fr.
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>>2111888More from the rest of the thread replying back
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And predictably Lio has shown up in the comments. Ever notice how all these people who claim to be “totally not defending Lio but just clearing up things people are getting wrong” are always super chummy with him? It’s even more questionable since according to the video Lio and Coyote admitted to holding onto this person’s real life information ever since they were a child, if I didn’t know better I’d say there’s blackmail going on, it’s suspicious he seems to be avoiding mentioning that part 2/2
No. 2112026
>>2111929okay so i watched the video. apparently it's justified to call up jax's school because he was the "bad guy"?
man, the acc be using their morals to justify doing really fucked up shit. i guess as long as you don't stick your dick in vulnerable women or children, you are allowed to do whatever you want. oh jeez… this surely doesn't remind me of that one cult that drank that koolaid.. or that other facist regime in the 1940's, led by some disgruntled, failed artist with a small penis and a big ego.
No. 2112133
>>2111964No, this is not the norm for autistic adults.
>>2112027 is correct that most autistic adults tend to stay in their lane and focus on the things of their interest. Lio is just a pathetic guy who knows he has nothing in real life (he more than likely thinks) and so he tries to play lord of the flies with stupid autistic gendie weirdos half his age so he can rule over them with a McDonalds burger in his mitt. To him, it's the only source of power he has in his lfie to make himself feel more important than he actually is because let's be real, what does Lio really have? Besides getting married, it doesn't seem like he's done anything inherently meaningful with his life.
No. 2112147
>>2112133kind of true but holier than thou rage outs is still a somewhat common traits in autistic adults. strict and righteous morals is a very very common part of autism and so is anger issues. that's why they call it "sperging" when users get into fights arguments and crashouts all the time over things they very deeply care about. …sperging is short for aspergers. surely we all know this here right.
but yea it's definitely a stereotype for at least one type of autistic adult but the chilled out type is also true and well known.
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Hiten has come out of hiding crying about how she's been through so much while they were in the commentary community and will be a vtuber from now on. This has caused chuuli, klownteeth and now rin to sperg out on bluesky with rin specifically putting out more screenshots and dms revolving around hiten.
No. 2112181
>>2112172this is severe autism. can these people just touch grass? i mean, god damn.
always having their lives revolve around their supposed victimhood.. fucking pansy ass niggas. they need to work at a 9 to 5 to see how difficult life can be.
these people wouldn't last even a day. fucking faggots.
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>>2112172I took this screenshot a few days ago but I think it’s funny that Lio is still palling around with Hiten and boosting her while Rin and Chuuli are not only friends with him but are also going scorched Earth on Hiten. Chuuli even said that she thinks it’s possible that Hiten was aware of Feghost’s actions prior to Chuuli’s 2021 expose in her recent video on Nezzie. Watch as soon enough Lio posts a video chewing out Hiten just like he did with Nezzie after playing the “you poor baby” game with her for months too
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Highly doubtful
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>>2112238not even one day later
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>>2112172Adding to this but rin, who keeps saying how traumatized they are from dealing with hiten and how they had to get off from the internet because of them, unblocked them on discord just to get an apology that probably wont happen.
No. 2112585
>>2112581the person who exposed the FCK, which was a pedophile hangout, ran by the moralfags of the ACC.
she was also the one who got into a fight with lio, only for her to start glazing him afterwards.
she also has had some controversies. including going after mari akutsu, along with inciting harassment towards people, recently. they're pretty insane tbh
No. 2112586
>>2112581Dude Lio threatened to out to his
abusive father while rin was hiding in a closet and Lio was at Walmart McDonald’s . Why they are now on talking terms is beyond me.
No. 2112819
Yet another video has been dropped on Souvlivvy detailing more of the bullshit
>>2112581The user that used to be known as Only Jesp / Fishlizard.Zip / Mind Your Business that was involved with the Tobi, Peaches, and Creepshow situations who Creepshow shit talked on here that got harassed by the SCC and chewed out by Lio, a full recap of this call
>>2112586 is in the previous thread
>>1995713>>2112442Anyone else think it’s weird how despite Rin’s video apparently being the “final word” on their experiences in the SCC that Rin is now trauma dumping about Hiten and barely mentioned her in that video? I’m very much tinfoiling here but I feel like Lio asked Rin to take it easy on Hiten because “She’s so suicidal and she’s going through so much!” Kek. I’m expecting Lio to drop a video on Hiten before or by August because he has no chance against Chuuli and Rin now that everyone is siding with them and him already fucking over his reputation for over a year now
No. 2112921
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Lio has been going back and forth with someone on bluesky who keeps arguing with him about how he handled things, that he has groomer friends and makes the claim that lio himself is a groomer and pedo
Lio responds by going though the persons fetishes and calls them out on their spelling mistakes.
According to lios timezone, he's having an internet argument at 12 at night.
No. 2113514
>>2113450gilded used to be based.. what happened to that guy? he used to be a bit more smarter back then. now he just constantly sucks off lio and his recent videos keep om getting shittier and shittier. he even called out enlaa for having a different opinion and hounded her for it. just a disgusting freak who often projects and covers up for actual sick freaks.
>>2113486there's actual screenshots of fox in the senate, saying that he dated a 17 year old girl, while he was adult. the audacity of the ACC to go after synni and to cancel her, while protecting and siding with fox and gilded, is pretty disgusting. actual unhinged freaks.
also fox was the same guy who confronted nvrth about his past and gilded made a video on nvrth too. pretty ironic, if not infuriating.
No. 2113530
>>2113522ok. i remember that it was either neorah or some other ex-acc person that had that screenshot. i tried looking for it on my google drive and docs but, it doesn't exist apparently? i guess this is a suppression tactic or something. i don't know. but, i remember that the drive was about how the senate was bad and stuff. i remember it came out before the rosa stuff got big. so, i guess it's lost media for now. but, don't think that i'm lying because, it's clear that lio surrounds himself with actual predators and coyote and dib are examples of this. he's just waiting for fox to fuck up so he can be able to expose it somehow. just you wait.
that is my true prediction.
No. 2113536
>>2113524 The only info I can find on this is an old WordPress website made by a strange guy having a beef with fox himself, like all the way back in 2017? It's hard to take some of the article as credible given the op is part of the "Gang stalking" crowd. That being said it seems like some of what was said holds up just going by the screenshots provided by op himself, Seems like they match fox's known behavior.. There's a lot here so i'm just gonna post the link to the article.
https://anonymousradioredux.wordpress.com/2021/05/11/fox-azure/Note what you brought up is indeed talked about by op somewhere. Like i said a lot to read through. I'm too lazy to go through it all. Read on your own terms.
No. 2113695
>>2113514so to recap, lio knows about fox and what they did, didnt do anything, is sitting on chatlogs like he did with the FCK logs, still didnt look through them until someone else brings them up and had someone else look through it anyways, and is waiting for the perfect moment to talk about it
"I changed guys"
No. 2114021
>>2113450,
>>2113486,
>>2113861So Lio and Gilded are getting on their high horses about people being “deranged freaks” while supporting Senate members saying they wanna rape 14 year olds? The fuck?!
No. 2114586
>>2114512>>2114570 here and I just finished the video and honestly, I'm sorry but I gotta admit that putting all this together, I think Chuuli was being a bit melodramatic. I understand that she felt uncomfortable seeing the NSFW art and hearing sex jokes & kink talk in the VR chat but her acting like she was a
victim of sexual assault and/or sex trafficking is absolutely ridiculous. From what I'm understanding with this Kayden person, al lthat happened was that he kept making sex jokes, he wasn't sliding into Chulli's DMs and asking her for nudes or sending her dick pics, or trying to rope her into sex RPs with him. to me all that I'm seeing is two social awkward people who didn't know how to handle boundaries (Chuuli not leaving the discord and/or blocking the guys who were being inappropriate and this Kayden person not understanding nsfw joking boundaries). Kayden was an adult yes but he was a socially awkward, neurodivergent guy who spent way too much time on edgy chat forums in the 2000s and 2010s and like what was discussed upthread, it just was a different time back then so I can sorta understand why he didn't think what he was doing was a problem because that was the culture he more than likely was engaging in in the 2000s-early 2010s.
And believe me, I'm not trying to say that this moid didn't do no worng, he did but I don't think it was intentionally malicious or to be a groomer.
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>>2114586the funny thing is, if you wrote this in lio's comment section, everyone would've called you a "
victim blamer".
i guess we gotta kiss chuuli's ass because she was "victimized" somehow. i can tell she's getting off to this
victim status. she's using it as a weapon against people and i think that makes her even scummier than what kayden did.
and this goes for every single "AFAB" in the ACC. ponder, goatcatto, hiten, chuuli, rin, stream, mali, and hopeless fuckin' peaches. it's all connected at this point. a hivemind that nobody can't break.
No. 2114628
>>2114615Oh I know. I actually got called that when I publicly commented about the Synnibear drama with Birdie when she whined about how violated she felt by Synni touching her and i mentioned how Birdie never told Synni to stop.
I think you're right that Chuuli is secretly enjoying this because most of the people are not criticizing her part in it because yes, she made a mistake as well but Lio and these others infantilze teenagers who once upon a time knew common sense and deep down, still do. But Chuuli is especially rubbing me the wrong way with how she's carrying herself in this drama. I just failt to see her as this huge
victim when all of this drama is over internet stuff and mostly (seems) to revolve around her listening to moids talk about their kinks and fetishises which is inappropriate sure, but she shouldn't have been in that Discord as a teen in the first place and again, should've blocked the moids and just carry on with her gal pals.
I can't remember if she was actually groomed, I think she said that one of the moids did ask her about her kinks/fetishes and as inappropriate as that is, it doesn't sound like it went further then just gabbing
Honestly I won't be surprised if Chuuli becomes the next hopeless Peaches in terms of loving to be seen as a defenseless
victim who needs protecting. I really hope I'm wrong here but Peaches started off in a similar way where she got caught up in drama and was seen as the uwu
victim and it gave her the impression that she could say anything and won't be raked for it but I feel like with Chuuli, it may be amplified because she's a
POC.
>and this goes for every single "AFAB" in the ACC. ponder, goatcatto, hiten, chuuli, rin, stream, mali, and hopeless fuckin' peaches. it's all connected at this point. a hivemind that nobody can't break.It certainly is a pattern isn't it? It probably doesn't help that most of these women are associated with Lio who will continue to baby them.
No. 2114642
>>2114628chuuli being the next hopeless peaches is going to be pretty interesting. i am sure that it would be 100x worse tbh.
also, in lio's view, he thinks that teenage girls cannot do anything wrong. he often claims that the moids he talks to, treats women differently from him but, he does the same thing towards men. he is so creepy and sexist for that.
No. 2114665
>>2114642Oh without a doubt it's going to be worse. Just picture Hopeless Peaches' whining with Omnia using the race card, it's going to be insufferable if this actually happens.
Yeah I've noticed that with Lio as well, he acts like teen girls can't make mistakes or at least be held as partially accountable for them like he does to boys and men. It's no wonder why the ACC broads think they can do whatever and when shit gets too real, run to big daddy lio (ew) who will bail them out of it. I can't help but feel that lio does this because he wished he had daughters of his own and uses these girls as (internet) surrogate daughters but specifically seeks out the mentally compromised as they'll be easier to control.
No. 2114976
>>2114851Yeah I agree, I don’t think Chuuli is as terminally online as Peaches to constantly go “I’M GONNA KILL MYSELF” every time criticism comes along. Nezzie and Hiten are the only ones really comparable to Peaches, I don’t count Rin as one of the chronic
victims threatening suicide every 5 seconds cuz Rin seems genuinely suicidal. Chuuli and Rin aren’t people who would genuinely threaten to end it at the slightest criticism imo
No. 2114989
>>2114688AYRT and again, I'm really hoping I'm wrong and she doesn't turn into Hopeless Peaches 2.0 but seeing how this community operates and how it feels like victimhood is currency in it, the odds don't look particularly good but there is no absolute.
And with Chuuli vs Akumu, I feel like Akumu has more room because he was trying to expose all the hypocrisies and ridiculous standards that the ACC uphold. Chuuli is just… What? The moids that she's trying to go for are not going to leave the internet.
No. 2115061
>>2114688I agree with this, there's also the fact that I have yet to see Chuuli mention anything about e-begging or trying to use her
victim status to leverage over others to act ahitty to them. I would compare Chuuli to Omnia more than anything. They're both annoying, but they have actually lives and signifigant others outside of the internet. Nezzie and Hiten are much more comparable to Peaches with how much they talk about wanting to an hero.
The thing that bugs me the most is why these women keep turning to Lio for shit. That scrote must have some master level manipulation haplenjng behund the scenes. Chuuli has even acknowledged multiple times that Lio's a bad person and yet she still pals around with him.
No. 2115243
>>2115208>I don’t know where this consensus comes from that Omnia isn’t also chronically online or not an e-beggerI think it's mainly because Omnia isn't all that active anymore on YouTube. Most people here (myself included) don't follow or keep track of Omnia on Twitter or BlueSky so we wouldn't know if she's still active online but as far as YouTube goes, ever since her scam was put on blast, she seems to have dipped out YouTube for the time being and so it gives the impression that maybe she's just living more IRL.
With Chuuli, the annoyance comes from what other anons said where she's trying to paint herself as this tragic
victim when the reality is that what she went through wasn't near as bad as someone who actually does get groomed and had people trying to (or actually had) meet up with them and direct their sexual kinks directly onto the person themselves. And like another anon said, all she had to do with just cut down on the internet or leave the Discord server. A lot of us, especially us oldfags are getting exhausted of these grooming & predator stories to the point where unless the person was actually having sexual fetish and kinks specifically directed onto the person themselves, we're just not gonna be all that sympathetic because of lack of common sense and being a teenager is no excuse. People can say it's
victim blaming but at this point, I don't care. the adult will always be the one wrong in these situation but in a situation like Chuuli's where there was no direct grooming or coercion to engage in direct sex chat, she totally could've used common sense to avoid those moids.
No. 2115302
>>2115243A lot of you oldfags don’t take grooming or predator stories seriously because you guys are probably older than the internet + regularly hooked up with pedo musicians. Not gonna say that chuuli is some perfect
victim but the people who regularly appeared on milk cartons and got preyed upon by rock bands really don’t have a leg to stand on.
(infighting) No. 2115317
>>2115302I just think that you don't have to be a perfect
victim to not go back to the well of abuse to platform your abuse allegation. All these people that Rin and Chuuli bring up specifically Lio platformed and enabled the people that abused them, and then suddenly when the pendulum swings it's "oh they are not that bad guys, I know it was this community that victimized me and silenced me and only cared because suddenly a random retard that they also victimized is now effectively mogging them and they need a new special little
victim to prop up to make themselves look good again. BUT NO THEY CHANGED! IM SO PROUD OF THEM UWU" so yes they are not a perfect
victim but it also shows how they became one to begin with and I believe personally they are very comfortable with that title.
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LioConvoy follows Danielle, that’s the 23 year old trans person who groomed vqaii aka Vincent. Lio has beef with Vincent for a few reasons
>>A vtuber called caitlinkoi(30) was being harassed by Vincent since she was letting her minor friends into the nsfw section of her server
>>he trolled Lio’s friend gilded poo
>> would not let lios pedophile friend fox azure (38)into his YouTube discord server so they could sexually harass and threaten the minors found there.
All of these people are very well rounded
No. 2115458
>>2115368and they called kayden a predator??
and chuuli hasn't called this out?
fucking weirdos i swear..
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>>2114512okay here are some comments that really pissed me off. especially when they're pretty ableist along with falsely accusing kayden as a predator over a weird interaction with chuuli.
comparing an autist to actual predators is pretty fucking disgusting. no doubts about it.
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here's a comment essentially calling kayden a potential rapist. how classy.
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here is some actual ableism from this commenter. you can tell that they think with their peanut brain instead of conducting actual research. thinking with their feelings instead of their brain.
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here is this person, making baseless accusations towards kayden. this person is probably an artist so, he probably followed them for their art.
talk about a fucking nothingburger.
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again. taking his words and twisting it over and over.. god lio's comment section is a general dumpster fire. these people need to have their brains studied by harvard on how social media and hysteria can rot the brain from within.
No. 2115601
>>2115598now that i think about it.. maybe i should've done that. but, i guess it's more organized to like make them seperate from one another so, the points are demostrated one by one.
at least that's what i think lul
No. 2115920
>>2115587>>2115589>>2115591>>2115592>>2115593Why are you foaming at the mouth in defense of a creep moid? I hate Lio's dick-riders as much as the next person but "mental illness does not excuse creeping" is a pretty normal take as far as his comment section goes.
Your posts read like you have some relation to the subject of ridicule.
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>>2050490>PonderSprocket>well respectedlol
does anyone have an archive of the video she made / was making about yoyo3639, i think yoyo was drawn in handcuffs or something like that. it seems like ponder and friends scrubbed everything related to this drama
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Known Teeth wrote a recent post about rhe status of her video and honestly, I can't help but feel thisbis gonna be some terminally online bullshit. I understand that for some of us online fandom artists who do socialize online, some of the things you can experience can feel intense but I feel like there is a limit. I just can't help but find this talk of being oh so traumatized by online art drama is just a tad overboard.
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“Take it off the damn internet or ELSE, you have 24 hours before I stroke out.”
Caps lock makes you scarier.
No. 2117055
>>2116855From what I've learned, the more mid the art is, the bigger the ego the artist has, and the bigger the ego they have, the more terminally online they will be, the more terminally online they are, the more "trauma" they will suffer, and the more "trauma" they suffer, the more dramatic and overexaggerating with details they will be when talking about it
>>2117013Actually Mr enter did post a statement where he said that KP had sent the video to lio so he could view it before it was posted, he didnt watch it of course
>>2117032Honestly at this point, there is no stopping these people from returning, plus what would lio even do if ghost simply said "no" and didnt respond at all and continued on with his terminally online life? pull out doxxing information? flag his channel? Lio doesnt realize that some people really dont give a shit if they hurt people or not, so they aren't going to bend the knee if someone is still hurt by something they did years ago, especially when its coming from another well documented freak like lio is. Plus with lio being as terminally online as he is, he should know by now that they aren't going to stay off, he cant really do anything but seethe.
No. 2117064
>>2117055I totally agree with you on the Lio part. There’s never gonna be any real justice that will happen to any actual
victims as long as greasy fat incompetent people like Lio are placed in charge of these things. Lio himself has proven to be a harmful clout chaser that doesn’t actually care about
victims ( the way he handled the Jordyn situation and countless others ) and has done more harm than good. I wish there was a person who actually gave a fuck and provided the help these kids actually need.
And yeah I know I’m probably being a retard for giving these kids so much grace, and yeah logging off and blocking these creeps would be the right thing to do. But these aren’t normal kids. The one common denominator most of these grooming
victims have in common is having mental illness and bad family situations. These things would be solved if they had an actual irl community or friends to help them be normal and avoid seeking out friendships from strangers online. Or at least having a gofundme towards helping them escape a situation that’s beyond just moving out. Doing good at school or getting a GED, getting a psychiatrist, real world skills, and more and being fucking transparent with donation goals would be more helpful. Sorry guys for the rant, just sharing thoughts
No. 2117314
>>2117055>From what I've learned, the more mid the art is, the bigger the ego the artist has, and the bigger the ego they have, the more terminally online they will be, the more terminally online they are, the more "trauma" they will suffer, and the more "trauma" they suffer, the more dramatic and overexaggerating with details they will be when talking about itI think you're totally right on this. I snooped Klown Teeth's art page and while she has made some improvement from her stuff during the 2010s, it's still pretty mediocre and I think she's coasting on her past where she was a C-list ACC figure and she does seem to have a bit of an ego because of it. But seeing how most of the "girlies" in her group are over-ddramatic with their tRaUMa, I see her video being no different because unless she like actually faced some IRL harassment, I'm getting tired of hearing about this petty online drama shit where the solution is blocking those who bother you and ignore and disengage with the baiting.
>>2117214This is totally what's gonna happen. I don't know how far back she's going to go with her little retrospective but I have a feeling it'll be going back to at least the first Spoctor drama so we'll probably be hearing all kinds of old names that are no longer active in the community.
On the by, am I the only one who is gonna groan when she inevitably brings up Feghost. I'm not defending the fucker but the drama her and Chuuli have with him concerning the false suicide thing is just so fucking cringe because it did turn out to be a lie and I'm willing to bet there was no substantiated proof of it either which makes it all the more dumb for them get worked up about in hindsight. I'm not saying they don't have a right to be annoyed or pissed at it but please stop with the "I was traumatized" bullshit, they didn't even know the falsified person (IIRC).
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New fun screenshot. It was two years ago, he’s changed, he was only 36 than, he didn’t know better.
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>>2117314
>I snooped Klown Teeth's art page and while she has made some improvement from her stuff during the 2010s, it's still pretty mediocreIcyhazard/klownteeth traces most of her new art from clip studio paint 3D models, even basic front facing poses, and it’s still shit.
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>>2117013A bit related to this but lio responded to one of the old members of the senate and massive sweeper, SodapopBBQ, by saying he had nothing to do with the expose video in question. This is despite the fact that lio is friends with KP, and has even admitted to be in association with them, the whole reason lio is mad about it is because another youtuber Antony Gramuglia, said that KPs expose video had "lios fingerprints all over it" that was left in a comment about the upcoming expose. Knowing his repeated pattern, I predict lio will go after Anthony simply for mentioning him.
After sucking off lio, Soda would later make another statement saying that he "left" the senate and cats lair, that he was not looking for approval from lio and that "no one should get involved in the drama"
you be the judge
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>>2117663from the live chat
No. 2117693
>>2117663I have not watched it yet but for fuck's sake, what the hell is wrong with these two manchildren? First off, I call BS on the accusation of 16 year olds being "pedos", the term has been thrown around so much these days that I'm starting to wonder if people even known what it means. Again, I have not watched the video yet and if there really is evidence that these two teenagers are pedos then whatever but that's besides the point; my question is why are these grown ass men even trying to get involved in the drama of high schoolers acting like teens and arguing with each other? Like fuck off, do these grown ass men not have anything better to do with their time? There's absolutely no reason why grown ass adults pushing 40 should be getting caught up in teen drama.
It seems like Gilded is showing his true colors as well, fo someone who claims to not "give a shit", he seems to get involved in the things he claims he doesn't care about. Seems like he has become emboldened after pairing up with Lio Convoy when just months ago he was tearing into how retarded he thinks Lio is. Birds of a feather I guess.
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>>2117672another screenshot, this time from the community post of the person who held the stream, maybe lio really did groom guilded if hes making comments like this
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>>2117871I've been trying to piece together what happened and all I can really get is from picrel and the replies. Apperantly Hiten was quite literally being Peaches 2.0 in suicide baiting and treating Lio horribly. She, Peaches, and Nezzie really are the same bitch in a different font kek. If anyone can find the ss of Hiten supposedly being shit to Lio behind the scenes I'd love to see them.
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>>2117941How do you get played the same way by so many people? Because he’s not, he’s an awful person that uses these weak mentally challenged women as a useful shield of righteousness.
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His zoo buddy is here to help!
Hiten will know real harassment
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Rin is in the comments encouraging harassment. They just want to keep it going until it goes on them. Than they’ll play victim.
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>>2117972and now they're not
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Didn’t jar say that he was leaving permanently or is he now pivoting to doing a full time political grifting career ?
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Rin has decided to go full scorched earth on hiten and is planning on releasing a video, she has also gotten ahold of the cloud palace server logs via lio. While saying how she plans on releasing the video, she knows fully well how much this is taking a mental toll on her, even saying how making it is stressing her out.
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Gildedpoo and Lio and rin are all doing a coordinated hit piece on former friend hiten.
It’s good seeing grown ass men and little womenteam up to stop the evils of some other young woman.
No. 2119901
@everyone
Time to rip this bandaid off.
Sunday night, Suzy Doodletones was confronted about a video she did in 2021. A video defending someone accused of grooming by the name of “George Raccoon”. This video ran defense for what was, clearly, grooming via putting known minors in art that involved this person’s fetish. Suzy excused these actions because the victims never stated a boundary.
This is compounded by a few things:
-Suzy initially went through the data in 2019, but made the video two years later. There was plenty of time for her to do proper research.
-In the comments of said video, one of the victims tried to defend themselves, only for several people in the community to clown on them.
-George was let back into the community as a direct result of this defense video.
-The victims have felt forced into silence (due to the defense and people’s response) for 4 years now due to that video and the community just welcoming Horus back without question.
Chuuli and I will be brainstorming the next few days to figure out how to uncover similar things in this community, since it now has a proven habit of silencing victims.
Since then, other things have come to light. Such as the SCC having a proven pattern now of silencing victims if they “didn’t like them”, alongside actively bullying/harassing kids or hoping others do it. Suzy, Yun, Avi, and several other well-known people in that community not only allowed it, but participated in it.
While Suzy is not a predator, this casts even more doubt on her honesty and involvement in things like The FCK, or her general activities.
I’ll hopefully be dropping the calls this weekend, and Chuuli will be working on a more structured video to go into detail. A lot of digging through server logs like The Cloud Palace is currently underway, so I’m not sure of the ETA.
How Suzy assisted in cleaning predators out of her community while knowing she did a video defending one isn’t something I have answers for. No clue how her a-loggers missed it either.
Keep the conversation about this focused on the actual wrongdoings and not previous controversies she’s been in, please.(namefagging)
No. 2119931
>>2119901hey there! i guess it goes to show that the ACC is lurking on this thread lmao
all of you need to go outside
No. 2120244
>>2120039apparently, this george raccoon fella is apparently a predator for drawing minors dissappearing and putting them in snow white outfits?? and the people who are calling this out are also freaks?
geez, is it any wonder why the ACC is full of projectionists? it's freaks being called out by other freaks.
No. 2120279
>>2120026For those who can't stand lios voice and victimhood, a TLDW will be provided
despite the call saying it was going to be about hiten, they are hardly mentioned due to "ongoing investigations" that he'd rather not make any definitive statements and its mainly doodletones being thrown under the bus for actions that are quite similar to what lio has done in his servers, along with other details about what has been found or that were already known knowledge on here and other places, but lio presents it as information that wasn't known beforehand
>George raccoon or horus was drawing minors and was defended by doodle in 2021, and was in lios server at one point, and was not a groomer because according to doodle "boundaries were not set and the art was not inherently sexual">The drawings themselves involved the child characters disappearing via magic with outfits resembling snow whites dress, with lio essentially saying "snow white dress is equivalent to a 13 year old, so its creepy" however later in the call he says he while he doesnt understand the fetish of "the snow white dress" he could understand "thigh highs and short skirts all day long" but an outfit a 13 wears "what is wrong with you">Lio goes on to say how doodle could have double checked or used their head to know how this was wrong, but doodle did nothing>when doodle released the aforementioned video, in the comments the victims were trying to make a case for what they went though and were instead dogpiled, notably by avi, nezzies BF>Lio got ahold of doodles discord server the cloud palace, however states he hasn't looked into it and gave it to other people to look into it and so far "have only seen the surface", essentially the same tactic he used when he gave doodle the FCK logs>In it they found various threads, allowing children to talk to "freaks and weirdos", actively "planning and dunking" on other minors where they were held to adult standards similar to jax and vAqeii , other "deranged behavior and statements" which were encouraged>Another individual by the name Raicohai (not exact spelling) was initially outed by the SCC for "backbiting", an autistic term used for talking trash behind others and behind the scenes and had a "cult of personality">They would later be exposed as a groomer and when the victims began telling others about it, doodle and others would ignore it and they weren't valid victims simply because "I dont like these people because you hang out with raicohai", which is quite similar to what akumu went through>Lio says the community is getting worse the more its being looked into and gotten to the point where its become a massive community issue, where you "adapt or die">He then says he plans on having the community change "drastically" with chuuli, otherwise it will be nuked >Lio then says "I am done with people trying to act like they care about people or children or whatever and then i find out this is how they've been acting and keeping it to themselves">Doodles excuse for the video was they didn't want another spoctor situation, but lio says two years passed and he doesn't buy it, saying how if you have doubts of false accusations, then you need to "double triple quadruple check then">He then goes on saying how a lot of children were failed in the community>Linlin at 15 made a video that the community didnt like and instead of talking to them, they were in the background hoping that it would attract the attention of mister metokur>On the topic of metokur, doodles claimed they had been doxxed and harassed by metokur, but lio claims thats not true, as doodle put out their personal information years before>Lio also claims that the name "doodlediapers" didnt come from metokur, but from doodles themselves as they were calling themselves that in 2014 from their original deviantart account>Lio then states that anything that doodle has claimed is "under question" and that doodles doesn't look at what's in front of them instead ops for the path of "least resistance">Lio then admits that he did let kids into the senate discord at some point and struggled with people "not minding their Ps and Qs" and would get banned and says the similar thing probably happened in doodles server and mirrored what happened in the FCK>"you cant just ignore awful things, you have you confront them, sometimes you need to rip them apart or beat them to death">Lio questions why doodles defended Raccoon or in his own words "why they decided to go to bat for a freak, I don't know how Suzy looked at all that data and went "yes they're innocent" See Coyote lovely for lio doing the same thing>Doodle claims that grooming is a "specialized thing" and lio agrees that could be true>The server audit has gone far back as 2017-2018, and lio is trying to get people to get the meta data for it>Lio then plans on going through all the things that were hidden from others saying how "adults couldn't be adults" and give the victims "some peace">Lio then goes on a small mini rant about "super obsessive trigger" words and how this all wouldn't have happened if people "grew up", saying how he's sick of how fragile these people are in the logs as they were censoring peoples names due to being "triggering">Probably the most ironic thing said by him "if a single name makes you lose your mind to the point of an actual panic, brother log off and get help, you don't need to be online">After this investigation, doodles will no longer be around the internet, and lio has scheduled one more conversation with doodle to get some answers, "she has done so much damage, all the time in cloak and dagger, in calls where i helped her clean up her community, knowing full well in the back of her mind she was doing this and said nothing">Lio then goes on saying how hes "owned his crap" that he needed to be "smacked in the mouth" typical accountability BS>Lio mentions how it shouldn't be acceptable to allow a groomer back into a space, despite doing that a month ago with vAqeii when he was getting ahold of vAqs groomer due to not getting any answers out of him that he wanted for the crime of trolling in guildeds poos server>"Suzys legacy wont be being told to get off the internet for the victims sake, it will be because she let a groomer weasel their way back into community spaces">Lio admits that there is nothing that can be done legally once this is all compiled, making this whole crusade a waste of time>other questions answered by lio, Akumu doesnt have the discord logs, as its not "akumus room" and that he doesn't want any bias people looking into it. Lio says how he doesnt really care to look into the diaper fetish stuff, but knows it problematic. Gives a rundown about the hiten stuff that was already covered earlier in here and other videos, he will be releasing more calls and will be making videos with chuuliTLDR, predator hunting is back, and lio will be releasing videos with chuuli in the upcoming months about both hiten and doodle
No. 2120307
>>2120279>>2120291>>2120297this call was so fucking cringe.. hearing lio talk in his "big" and "badass" demeanor is so fucking hysterical to me because, we all know he's the exact opposite.
if i was chuuli, i would stay away from him. but, she's a mentally ill freak who's on a current bloodstreak at the moment. all she sees is revenge, not logical reasoning. this goes for all of the "AFABS" in the ACC currently. i don't blame chuuli too much but, it's clear that all of this is gonna backfire because lio is being a retard who thinks he has a leg up on people when in reality, his leg is as good as a pegleg.
lio and the ACC need to go down. end of.
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>>2117032i mean, look at this. this person tried to reason with lio but, he got piled on by him and chuuli.
yea, i can tell this is gonna go bad somehow
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>>2120314It really didn't take that long for chuuli to use her
victim status, but whats worse is that she isn't silencing people who are saying shes wrong or people covering it up, shes trying to silence common sense and actual advice to move on from it. I believe she will become more insufferable and cuntish like peaches when it comes to parading around as a "
victim"
No. 2120326
>>2120324>"KENDRICK LAMAR NOT LIKE US P DIDDY NOT LIKE US HAHA THIS JOKE IS SO FUNNY AND NOT FUCKING RETARDED"most kendrick lamar fans are so fucking corny fr
also i agree with you, lio is setting her up for failiure and by the time she realizes it, it'll all be too late.
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Rin has seemingly cancelled her video on hiten. She also released a few images saying how in the making and researching of the cloud palace, it has caused her "Physical harm" with the evidence being a few drops of blood on her arm via a nosebleed she had, which counts as "self harm"
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>>21203282/2
she also keeps empathizing how lio is remorseful for the actions hes done as if that really clears up anything
No. 2120388
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BSuIRwN9LnGwMrcJvyDZPMEapCF_0rdH/viewhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1BSuIRwN9LnGwMrcJvyDZPMEapCF_0rdH/viewHere’s the latest call confronting Bunnychan and the absolute madness
Thank you from Pootopia
Though just a heads up for anyone: lots of angry Lio but for a good reason
So in case anyone cannot handle angry Lio, may not want to listen
No. 2120425
>>2120415I firmly believe that the only way the ACC as a whole would be taken down and put under an even bigger magnifying glass, along with all the members involved probably being forever documented is if the infamous "shotgun call" was released. We've heard bits and pieces about it being one of the worst calls they had and and prime example as to why these kinds of accountability or predator hunting calls are a severe detriment to
victims or whoever they're going after. Whenever its mentioned, especially from the people who cover this like beckett and if i remember correctly guilded poo, they always say how it should never be released and hopefully never leak. It will take some time but I'm sure it will be released by someone, and when it does, it will probably have lasting effects on the people who were directly involved in it.
No. 2120450
>>2120388I dont know who bunnychan is or what they did, but according to comments they're a mentally ill girl who is probably Rosa levels of ill and too parasocial, if anyone wants to correct it they can. This call took place in guilded poos server, I wonder why they're doing it there instead of the cats lair. It also looks to be a public call, as people join in occasionally, something lio said he would never do again
>Lio starts the call by saying "lets get this over with, no more tall tales no more make believe" and directly asks bunny (who is renamed in the call as "da peedoh") what they want, Bunny replies they want to simply apologize and that's all they need>Lio starts berating and mocking bunny for wanting closure and says theyre making up false stories again>Bunny brings up patrick or conundrum, and asks if lio knows any of his wrong doings, lio responds saying he doesn't care and hope he kills himself "I hope he finds a gun, puts it in his mouth, pulls the trigger until the clicking stops">Lio continues to berate bunny saying they are a habitual liar>"what is wrong with that actually deranged diseased brain of yours">bunny chimes in saying "what's wrong with your damage" back to lio and lio replies back "im actually fine">Bunny brings up they have OCD and autism (later in the call they say they have other issues), and are laughed at for it by another person, and lio responds saying they don't care that "everyone here has autism and they don't act like you">A person with nrvths pfp joins in, whether its him or not is debatable>Bunny starts saying how this isn't working and tries to leave but lio starts throwing a tantrum saying how they're running away again>"The only thing you're a victim of is your own stupidity and the fact your mother didn't swallow you">Lio then threatens to dox bunny saying if that's what its going to take for them to leave >Bunny wants lio to take down some video they did of them that happened 2 years ago>Any time bunny tries to say something in their defense, lio berates them, calls them stupid>according to lio, bunny made 10 alt accounts trying to talk about some investigation, which just shows how mentally ill they are>bunny says again how they wanted to apologize and get the video taken down, they are yelled at saying "it was two fucking years ago, let it go you fucking bitch">More berating, lio saying how bunny didn't learn anything because "I guess your parents didn't whooped you one good time">Lio then eggs on bunny into copyright striking the video, more than likely because it will give them bunny's email address and lio could dox them with it, he's tried it in the past>bunny continues saying how they're trying to be nice and is honestly acting more mature than lio, to which lio replies "here's what you can do with that kindness, roll it up into a ball and shove it down your throat and choke on it">Bunny states how they don't have much control over what they do due to their illness and lio then tells them to put their grandma on the phone, the rest of the peanut gallery pleads for bunny to do it for the sake of humiliation>bunny correctly states that lio has no say in being taken offline and lio keeps going about using bunny's grandma to take them offline>"people with actual disabilities i have a great empathy and care for them, you are not one of them">another person chimes in saying they hope bunny says something so stupid it causes lio do to a full on crash out>Bunny apparently defended spoctor according to another person in the call under the name "nick mullens biggest fan" who sounds a lot like peaches but American>Bunny says that they showed the video in question to other people in the personal life, and how its ruined their life, the audience laughs at them>the audience then says how the only way that lio would take the video down is if bunny paid it off>Lio then goes off saying how bunny was sexually harassing people, but bunny says it was nothing but a joke and didn't go further than that and makes the comparison to family guy jokes>this goes on for about several minutes with the peanut gallery insulting and saying how even if its taken down its still archived until lio says the following "I am going to make it my personal mission to hunt you down on every single alt account, every single group you go into, I'm going to terrorize you and let them all know what a sadistic, sick, deranged person you are. I'm going to spam that call to every place you are, I will find where you live and I will email it to your house, i will mail it to you, how's that sound">the audience starts agreeing with it saying how it should be on a VHS or "make it feel like a horror movie">Lio then goes on saying that bunny isnt coming here from mental illness but maliciousness, bunny claps back saying how its malicious if they're offering an apology>Lio: "find a bridge and jump". "Nick mullens biggest fan": "BASED">as bunny tries talking and stuttering lio calls them porky pig>"Don't make me embarrass you, i will, i will continue to, you deranged sick animal, i don't know who raised you, but i hope they shove you back up inside your mom">lio and bunny go back and forth asking how old each of them are>Lio then says if bunny is 27 to "prove it" the audience then says that bunny should show their drivers license>bunny refuses and lio says they have no evidence then and are lying>"You're not owed closure, what you're owed is hopefully a miserable long life where you are nothing but miserable for the entirety of it, I hope every single day in the morning, you look at life and you think about killing yourself but you never do because you're too much of a pussy and i hope you carry that misery for the rest of your horrible life">Right as lio says this, another person says "I was hoping to say that i was trying to keep myself composed cause i don't kinda want a repeat of the rosa ray ramsey call, but i did call her a cunt and so that ships kinda already sailed" lio responds saying "no this isnt anything like rosa">the same person says they could play devils advocate for rosa as she was manipulated by other people, but if bunny wanted closure they could have "shot their internet router" and how they barely know bunny but "from the call alone i can tell you're a fucking weirdo dude">another person in the call "Timber's babymaker" tells bunny to leave and then kill themselves>around 49:07 "TLDR, for those who just joined in, Welcome to the sequel of the rosa ray ramsey call, except rosa actually deserves it">Bunny says nothing and the audience then says how bunny needs to kill themselves>Bunny gets on cam with a power rangers mask, "nick mullens biggest fan" then instructs bunny to put the gun to their head>Lio says that bunny has died on the hill trying to defend spoctor for having "child pornography">"timber's babymaker: "holy fuck you are fucking retarded, you are genuinely fucking retarded">another person says they hope that when bunny slits their wrists and go across the road, lio says they wont as theyre an "egotistical piece of garbage" to which another responds "LIO THERES STILL A CHANCE, DONT RUIN THIS FOR ME">The call ends with bunny getting kicked out and the others telling her to kill herself.18 people were in the call at the end of it.
Honestly I don't care what bunny did, they didn't rape someone, they didn't kill anyone, if all they did was the crime of being mentally ill and being too parasocial and not making good jokes, then this was blown out of proportion as per usual by lio and his new senate esc peanut gallery. Now even if bunny is as bad as they're claimed to be, I don't think any of this is justifiable in any way shape or form, it almost makes what they claim bunny did to be insignificant at this point when measuring it up to this. Lio you will never learn you terminally online scrote.
No. 2120502
>>2120450>>2120425yea at this point they're gonna push someone to suicide.
say what you will about bunnychan but, she's really strong for having to put up with lio and his butt-buddies
No. 2120784
>>2117663The irony of this and the latest Doodle shit happening so close together aside, does anyone else think it’s insanely hypocritical that Rin and Chuuli continue to white knight for Lio so hard and that Rin is kissing up to Gilded when, if someone like Avi or Hiten went into a call to say this shit to this Cupidite kid, that they would immediately be rushing to make their next expose video? Chuuli clearly has no standards with Lio cuz she flat out accused Hiten of possibly knowing of Feghost’s actions pre-2021 but had no issue with Lio retweeting Hiten’s e-begging and Lio seemed to not give a shit about that accusation anyways which is highly questionable no matter how you look at it. I’m not shocked Goatcatto was involved, Goat is mentally 13 still and flinches at even the mildest criticism and is clearly only hanging with Lio to get heat off their own back from the Frick The Pirate / Shister thing
>>2119901,
>>2120026,
>>2120279I saw this situation happen in 2021 in real time. Basically what happened is Vivian/Channel Gray (an MTF ex-YouTuber who apparently raped someone) made a document accusing another commentator named George Raccoon of grooming a teenager named Leo. I don’t recall the age gap but I believe Leo was early-mid teens and George was in his early 20s. George did stuff like let Leo follow a private NSFW account he had and told him about his kinks which was weird shit like people wearing a Snow White dress or people disappearing under magic sheets and he drew Leo in those situations and inserted a real minor into his kink art and the community ostracized him as a result. In 2021 Doodle made a video defending him and a bunch of SCC tards like Souvlivvy mindlessly agreed and were all like “I knew something was fishy about the allegations.” and George rebranded himself as Horus Tome (also he wasn’t MTF but his OC was changed from a furry to some loli girl which was very questionable). Back when Rin went by Mind Your Business they commented under the video pointing out how Horus/George was drawing Leo’s character in kink art and how that was at least cause for concern and the SCC bashed them and Avi subtweeted and stuff (don’t know why that wasn’t in Rin’s YouTube video cuz it was pretty significant). I don’t know why a bunch of other shit like Coyote or Lin Lin’s old Lindata era videos are being mentioned but this community has a long ass history of doing this cult-like shit and dipping anyone who doesn’t agree with them so I shouldn’t be shocked
No. 2121060
Akumu is planning on getting into the SCC, but also looking into the cloud palace. After this he held a stream and some interesting things of note came from it
>Lava, a user in akumus discord server, was the one that found the "doodlediapers" name and this info was then sent to lio
>Someone asked if akumu had the server logs of the cloud palace, to which he said he didn't
>When he found out that lio didn't want to give the logs to him, he found it strange and reached out to him to ask about the reason. Lio was offline at the time
>Akumu then brings up that in fairness lio didn't have to, as he didn't give lio the FCK logs, but notes that he didn't out of the fact that lio would have swept for peaches if it was handed over
>Akumu believes the real reason lio doesn't want to give it out is because lio wants to be the first to get it out there, which is something lio tried doing when he had the FCK logs and tried to get the video out before akumu, saying how he didnt want akumu to "have control of the narrative"
>Someone mentioned the bunny call and if he knew about it or listened to it, akumu said he didn't know what they were talking about
Its starting to sound like the bunny call wasn't meant to be put out into the public, I wonder how chuuli would feel hearing about this call knowing that lio went back to their old ways and has gotten worse
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>>2120978Oh I thought that was common knowledge that Doodles was dropout NEET. From what I remember, he dropped out because of anxiety or something like that and with all that free time he had, that is how he became 100% terminally online and got to indulge in his diaper fetish and his age-play nonsense. I think he was living with his grandparents and they didn't seem to care (or have the energy) to make him get a GED or a job.
But yeah, it's so silly in hindsight how anyone took a complete failure at life seriously when he is unironically sheltered and accomplished nothing with his life. I try to be understanding of people's situations and mental health but with Doodles, he really is just a lazy dumbass because he could've done something with his life like actually improve on his art and turn it into a side hustle and possibly even freelance business but he didn't, he just gooned & made shit-tier art with no practicing of his freetime while making pseudo-intellectual "commentary" videos while playing pretend that he's some sassy redhead anime girl. The comedy really writes itself. The only interesting thing abut Doodletones ignoring how perverse and depraved he is is that he's a Gandalf like figure of this side of the internet with how long he's been involved in it.
No. 2121091
>>2120388,
>>2120450Bunnychan / Craftify / The Pink Cafe was mentioned a few threads ago
>>1764313 TLDR is that years ago now, Bunny made a video ranting on Peaches and Lio so Senate sperged out at her and she said weird sexual shit (I believe it was some stuff about Peaches and Lio fucking or Bunny fucking Lio) so he uploaded a whole call of him and Peaches having a back and forth with Bunny. She was a literal internet nobody before this (though one of her fans came here to sperg about her but that may have just been her
>>1782155). What I don’t get is how this late-20s disabled woman deserves to be told to kill herself with in detail instructions for supposed “sexual harassment” while Lio’s still palling around with people such as Ephrom (has been accused multiple times of sexually harassing minors to which Lio allegedly intimidated said minors in a call about until they were friends again) and Gilded (spammed animal gore porn at people but apparently it’s ok cuz “he didn’t send it to minors guys”). The only other thing I think she did was comment positively under something of CasWarFox’s back when that whole situation was going on but I don’t see how that’s unforgivable when Gilded was doing the same and he’s now best friends with Lio. Well actually I do know, Lio needs to tell someone to kill themselves to cope with his own sad life and the fact that he’s probably doomed to die of obesity before 50
No. 2121135
>>2121079Agree with you anon. Especially after looking at the photo of what Lio looked like when he was younger and I say this as an anime nerd who was an anime nerd in high school that he definitely got bullied in high school. I have a feeling that he was one of those know-it-all geeks as well (you know the ones kek). And considering how Lio surrounds himself with people a good decade younger than him shows this insecurity that he probably thinks that people around his age or older would find him to be a pathetic (literal having) neckbeard loser. It's easy to come off as the big cool when you surround yourself with mentally compromised youngsters who don't (yet) have the life experience.
>>2121084My guess is that it's because they don't have anyone else left to turn to. Most of the ACC has broken apart and the people have either stopped making content or have moved onto other communities, especially the VTubing community. Couple that with how Lio is one of the oldest people who is in the community, Chuuli & Rin probably feel this sense of security with their daddy figure Lio (ew) and are too mentally impaired to see just how wrong this is. But I also feel like they think if they stick with Lio, they won't be messed with.
>Also obligatory fuck Doodletones.I'm curious when that little skeeze will reappear because there's no way a terminally online neet like him will stay away for long, he must retrieve his unearned commentary plastic crown lol
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>>2121135More than likely they need lio to be with them if shit goes down like backup. But with rin, it looks like they're trying to do what lio does, as they're trying to do accountability calls in the "SCC Courthouse"
I don't know about you, but if you're lamenting about how massively this is negatively affecting you and making you self harm, and yet you still are perusing these people, even when they've been driven off or don't have the audience they used to have anymore from said actions, and you keep going back and forth about wanting to go after people or not wanting to deal with it anymore, that makes me less sympathetic to you and more like you're an idiot whose causing their own mental anguish. If this was already addressed and handled before, then move on from it. You're not going to make yourself a bigger
victim if you keep going woe is me.
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So, I might just be reading too much into this/tinfoiling, but is it concerning to anyone else that Doodletones just straight up says CP in picrel? Not loli art or anything else just point blank "CP". Because if he received actual irl cp and did fuck all about it….fucking firing squad because what is wrong with you.
No. 2122706
>>2122685Imagine sitting on this shit for years . YEARS. Only to release it now because you, as a jobless forty something have to cover up your cyber bullying of teenage
victims of grooming and need to bully them into submission .
No. 2122715
>>2122705honestly, i think that people are overexaggerating this. like, was it cool that george did that? no. But, i feel like with kayden, this is overblown, yet again. i mean, look at this video. this video reads more like "haha funny gossip" than an actually serious matter.
all because you couldn't handle being called out for calling minors "pedo-bait"
No. 2122733
>>2122723well, i think the difference between the cloud palace and the FCK goes as follows.
the cloud palace was made as an actual autist safe space with doodletones as the head leader. the cloak and dagger calls existed from there and it had alot of betrayal from within. nobody hid it. it was an open secret. lio and chuuli are only uncovering this now because, lio got into some shit over his egotistical behaviour overflowing again and, if you point this out, mentally ill freaks will come at you in droves and accuse you of being a "PDF defender".
the FCK was started after madame got into hot water with the ACC over the slimurz stuff and it then turned into an actual pedo ring. akumu, the person who exposed this, had recieved hate from alot of people, along with lio, covering for the FCK and not letting people speak out about it, until now.
fun fact: several people who were in the FCK, being complicit with pedophilic behaviour, were originally the people who made videos on people like camilia cuevas and hopeful lucille (the latter was blown out of proportion but, i digress)
it goes to show that whenever lio and chuuli call out this sort of shit, it's almost like it's an projection of their behavior. or they're using this as an scapegoat. as a way to distract from other things going on.
don't believe their lies.
No. 2122886
>>2122844I’m not the one arguing with trans Alvin and the chipmunks about not letting predators in the community . Lio already does that and doesn’t use a voice changer. Why that dumb old fuck let helium boy around
victims for so long is for him to answer with god. I’ll be praying for his wife . I wonder when his behavior is going to get her fired?
No. 2122907
>>2122899lio and his buttbuddies have set unrealistic standards for autistic people for the longest time. they would often hold up their autistic tokens as an "example" for an autistic person to be and if an autist doesn't follow that example, they're public enemy number one.
of course, what george did was wrong but, i feel like chuuli is overblowing this along with lio. if you hear lio's new video, one of the people in the call says "you're a
victim, you shouldn't apologize for anything."
fucking narc cult members, i tell ya
No. 2122918
>>2122913Your comment does make sense. Conflating real CP with lolishiit is just not comparable in terms of severity of crime, one is of a real
victim vs a drawing on paper/screen and it's dumb to conflate it. With Doodles, I have a feeling it was lolishit based on how he was into roleplaying as a child character and he just seems like a huge anime-tard to the point where he uses that fucked voice changer to sound like an anime girl.
No. 2122927
>>2122907Victims who abuse are still abusivw. Lio should know this. He was one, now he is one of the most maladaptive abusers on the platform. Jet setting these idiots on the road to become predatory
abusive creeps like himself.
No. 2122929
>>2122927all of them are either mentally ill troons or women who want to use their victimhood as a weapon against people.
pure scumbag behavior
No. 2122992
>>2122963Yeah they’re both fucking nasty, but I do think it’s important to separate actual children being abused, from some weird ass anime dragon vampire being abused.
But based on how the aac is you definitely care more about anime children being abused than someone being touched by their own stepdad. Vida and Lio were very interested in getting that recording going, but that was spitballing ideas (if you ignore how euphoric vida was getting listening in) or the sheer joy Lio and gilded zoo were getting talking about ”pedobait sluts“ 16, maybe 17. Getting his pedophile friend foxazure into a minor infested discord.
Thanks for saving Snow White from deviant arti inflation artists. That is good.
No. 2123017
>>2122963I didn't say that lolishit isn't gross, I'm simply saying that I'm not going to bother wasting my time on gross drawn stuff vs actual children being abused. Two things can be wrong at the same time but one is clearly worst than the other in this situation.
>>2122992Freaking thank you for this common sense. As I said, both things are gross/wrong but one is a fictional drawing, the other is a real breathing person and the latter will always be worst than some drawing that you can just ignore and not engage with as no one is getting hurt vs a child who would need immediate help and rescue.
No. 2123018
>>2122927Yeah I was getting a little confused in the beginning of the video when Chuuli was saying that the actions that this person did should not be brought up or used when covering someone who was being
abusive. I'm still trying to work my way through this stuff but even though I think Doodles is an insufferable person, I had to side eye at what Chuuli was saying about not bringing up abuse that a minor used towards others.
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Hiten may have tried to erase all photos of them from TikTok, but the idiot forgot that stitches are a thing. Shannon, peaches and Hiten all have that ugly entitled look while trying to seem badass and intimidating kek. Now we have a face to match the screaming
No. 2123049
>>2122061The whole call is just rin and jace going back and forth about questions rin had that they probably wanted to ask hiten and jun, but had to go with their ex friend for some sort of closure, but from what I heard jace was basically being a sheep and repeating what they were saying about rin and the whole rin section could be summed up as "you hurt my feelings with mean words". However the call gets interesting when the questions end because of course Lio and co had to get their say on the matter
>after jace said they would make an apology, a person by the name of sparrow asks why the fuck they see themselves as a victim if they were complicit, this causes jace to cry as they didn't want to admit it as they didn't know what would happen to them>Lio then unmutes and says "what do you think the people would have done" and jace replies they would have abandoned me "like the others">Lio then goes into full online dad mode, shushes jace when they're sounding like they're having a mental breakdown and then wants names on "the others" saying "I'm not raising my voice at you, I'm not yelling at you">Jace says the person who was abandoned was suzy and lio goes on saying how they left, they weren't abandoned>At this point Rin tries to ask lio to lay off as they recognize that jace is melting down, but lio shushes rin and tells them "I got this">After rin was shushed she tries going into text chat saying they dont want to cause jace to have a breakdown, but everyone starts coddling them saying "its not your fault, you're okay baby"(WTF) and asuka says "It's not your fault, jace agreed to be in this call, they are responsible for that decision" effectively ignoring Rins cause for concern>Jace brings up how Mav was allowed back in after they apologized and Lio directs jace to ignore the chat and to "stop looking for reasons to avoid what im asking you">Lio then says that mav wasn't abandoned and that they were exiled for harboring predators in their spaces>Jace later corrects themselves saying they didn't mean abandoned but "let go", and lio says why would they care, to which jace responds saying they still have friends in those spaces>Another person pops in saying how jace doesn't get to say they were manipulated as they were doing the same thing and they don't get to go "boo hoo" and to not make themselves the perpetual victim>Lio then keeps going on about how jace is unable to answer questions because they want to be a victim so badly>Lio then goes on saying how he's "not their parents, not their therapist and I'm not going to play that game with you">Jace then breaks down saying how they are a terrible person to rin and this isn't a sufficient answer, saying why they didn't say it to rin and how they're manipulated all the time>Lio then says how the community didn't cause jace to act this way or bring out the worst in them, it was themselves, even going on how he's been in this community and hasn't been influenced by it>Apparently jace went to lio for some validation for breaking off connections with shady people and if they were making the right choices and lio trashes them for it, saying they're not a moral arbiter >After this rant someone in chat says "Father convoy has spoken" thus cementing the fact he's seen as a father figure in the community>Jace then adds that they tried adding lio to talk things out with them first but lio spergs off and says they wanted an ultimatum, jace then raises their voice trying to speak and is immediately told not to and that they'll "be embarrassed", and that if they wanted to get their point across raising their voice is not the way>Its at this point that everyone starts trashing jace for trying to explain themselves, with no actual moderation happening and jace is breaking down from the pressure>Rin finally talks and says they hope that jace will send an apology to them, and even admits they weren't a great person either and both struggle with impulse issues and they were clearly influenced by the "mean girl circles">Despite this, another person says that if jace so much as says how they were a victim of hiten or jun, that the apology is null and voidthe only reason the call took place in public was because rin couldn't do it alone. Rin also says that jace shouldn't have trauma dumped but felt they were genuine and expected a lot worse. The video ends with Rin saying that if Jun ever makes an apology it better be good. Another notable thing was that chuuli was in the call and was tone policing jace, saying they cant say they're a different person now as that's "disassociating language" and they're the same person and even told them what phrases to say "I'm not like that anymore" "I don't behave that way" "I've changed how i feel and think about things"
No. 2123160
>>2122685I remember this situation from like 2018. What happened was Doodletones made a video on some beef between a guy named Halofan and a kid named Dan Stein. What Halofan did in response was apparently comment a link to CP/CSAM on Doodle’s video and then years later got confirmed to be a pedophile because he made a video calling an 11 year old girl super hot (the guy spoke like he was mentally disabled so I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if he was 30 something). I don’t know why some people in the SCC were ok with him for years prior to that but should we really be shocked that they would look past it at this rate?
>>2122061>Lio and friends tell Bunnychan to kill herself for trolling him recently and no one cares>Jace basically says “KYS” in a group chat years ago and a whole call is made with a thumbnail framing Jace as some criminal for itAbsolute retardation
No. 2123170
>>2123160Well these people cover for each other until they feel like pulling a et tu brute?
Than they go back to collecting more pedos to shield with. It’s one of those backstabby anime team ups.
No. 2123192
Saw this mentioned on KF, but thought it should be mentioned here, but Beckett has been going over the old cloak and dagger calls and at around 1h 44m, both Chris the narc and Beckett said a few things that were worth noting
>Chris: "He (lio) didn't have people telling him to stop fucking around on things
>Beckett: Listen we've mostly fixed him
>Chris: I would say we're like 40% the way, he's doing a lot better, I will give him that. After the hiten stuff i was like, yeah he's doing better, he was immediately like "fuck this bitch"
>Beckett: Someone asked me like, what would you defend about lio, he never sweeps, HE NEVER SWEEPS, its actually like ridiculous
>Chris: I've never seen him like genuinely sweep, i see him put defenses out for friends but he never knows like a lot of the info until its out there
>Beckett: it hits a point with him and then he's like "yeah you fucked up"
>Chris: and then we start going over everything and he's like "aw fuck me I didn't see any of this"
>Beckett: yeah its because people hide things from him, doesn't it recontextualize when the FCK stuff came out doodletones was the one that wanted to investigate it
No. 2123203
>>2123049that last part of your post made me so mad. chuuli is such a derranged psychopath who wants to tone-police and bully other because, it's what she's experienced. not knowing that's how actual abusers operate. she's just so weird and cult-like for that.
>>2123160jace got into trouble for what lio does on a daily basis? all of them are so stupid. they act like they haven't gotten in trouble over saying stupid shit. ESPECIALLY LIO.
>>2123192chris and beckett are mad weird. the fact that they give lio so many passes for this amount of time is crazy work.
No. 2123233
>>2122907Sat through the first call and felt my brain cells die during it
>Intro is just Lio giving content for the George Raccoon situation and Lio plays a call relating to when Chuuli (and some other SCC members chime in later) went into a casual call happening in the SCC courthouse to talk about issues with Doodle’s Neko Koda video for brining up things from when Koda was a minor and for giving a half assed apology/down playing the SCC comparing Koda to Vii Omega (Koda’s groomer/rapist) to show how Doodle handles criticism>Doodle responds by saying Koda’s actions as a minor “showed a pattern of abusive behavior” and starts screaming (Doodle genuinely sounds like a Mii at this part and it’s unintentionally funny)>Someone points out the hypocrisy in Doodle being upset by people digging up the old Diaper/Lolishit that Doodle did as a teen on DeviantArt but then digging up stuff from when Koda was a teen>Doodle starts actually crying about them “assuming my [Doodle’s] intent” Chuuli says they’re all just trying to tell Doodle why comparing Koda to Vii isn’t ok to say regardless of what was meant>Doodle agrees to private/delete the video>The call just circles like this for a while>They tell Doodle that maybe Vii’s abuse caused Koda to not mature and that since Koda is in therapy a youtuber shouldn’t be publicly deconstructing this behavior >Doodle brings up Souvlivvy and says that if Livvy’s behavior isn’t gonna be excused because of her being a minor for some of it that Koda’s shouldn’t either, Chuuli says she doesn’t agree with putting Livvy on blast either>Lio tells them to give Doodle a minute to breathe>Lio says the community has treated children badly and didn’t try to correct Koda’s behavior when she was still a minor>Koda deleted an account that she was talking to Lio on>Doodle starts crying about how “Koda and Vii both contributed to my harassment, hurt me in ways I haven’t fully processed, and are the reason I’ve had to make so many long videos”>Doodle asks if, since Vii also did abusive stuff (including sexual abuse to people) as a teenager, if Doodle should cancel making a video on Vii’s actions as well by Chuuli’s standards. Lio cuts in to remind Doodle that Chuuli is also a victim of abuse and says to calm down>Doodle starts getting apologetic and crying even more for getting upset because Koda “Did so much to me and I never even got an apology” Chuuli tried to reassure Doodle because people like Avi never apologized to Chuuli and tells Doodle she understands what it’s like to never get closure>Doodle says the 9 hour Koda video was supposed to be closure to what Koda did and Chuuli says it wasn’t a healthy form of it, Doodle says there was no other way to get closure on it and Chuuli says that’s something that should be discussed with a therapist>Chuuli tells Doodle it’s better to seek acceptance of what happened than closure, Chuuli prefers to save the discussion about that for another time but Doodle insists on going forward with it. Doodle apologizes again for yelling.>Chuuli says the line is when you’re documenting things an underaged person did publicly , Doodle asks about privating videos on Doodleclones/Just A Sylveon (A Doodletones stalker/impersonator) Chuuli says they should be removed>Lio says unless a minor is breaking a law then a video shouldn’t be done and the kid should be ignored (irony) and that if they continue the behavior into adulthood then making a note on the childhood behavior is all that’s necessary>Lio says Vii harassing Doodle has nothing to do with his predatory behavior so it shouldn’t be the focus of if Doodle ever does make a video about him because a line was crossed that makes talking about some of what he did as a minor acceptable>Lio says that if Doodle wants to remake the Koda video one day that it’s fine but to just let the situation die for now>Lio says he’s upset if the call was silent while he was gone and if he was the one who had to step in, Chuuli says that wouldn’t have been necessary because it was mostly a cordial conversation>They talk about Vii Omega and what his actual age is for a bit>The call is what caused Doodle to nuke the whole channel except for the goodbye video>Lio introduces the call about George/HorusThat’s all for the first part of the video, I’ll do the rest later because it hasn’t even been an hour but that call was mind numbing and a back and forth. It would’ve been 10 minutes if Doodle didn’t feel the need to start whining every 5 seconds and Lio just shut up and didn’t regurgitate Chuuli’s points (he didn’t even hear the full call so why even start talking). Overall just sheer stupidity and barely anything new
No. 2123263
>>2122907I'm still slowly making it through the video (lol) and I'm sorry but Chuuli bitching about how no one took this seriously at the time just demonstrates how the internet culture really was back in the early 2010s and she's too naive too understand that. Of course we didn't care about lolishit/shotashit because most of us had the sense to not look up that stuff and whether she likes it or not, we didn't take it seriously because it's not involving real children. It's still gross shit but we all understood that people will draw depraved stuff no matter what we say so it was best to just not engage with people who do this and go about our day only to intervene if real children or animals got roped into that depravity. There's a reason why it was called the "dark web" in those times.
And Chuuli, if you are reading this thread (which I feel that you are), understand that the answer to your question about why no one took this drama, including yours seriously when you were a minor is that it's not the internet's responsibility to raise you, that's your parents and/or guardian's job. I understand that your parents weren't the most attentive for whatever reason but it doesn't matter, that was still their own responsibility, not the internet and that's just the reality. You were hanging out in spaces you shouldn't have been in and that choice had a consequence, the consequence of seeing how nonchalant and socially chaotic the internet can be. Call if
victim blaming, I honestly don't care at this point because a lot of us on the internet already understood the wild nature of the internet to the point where we know that kids don't listen and will have to live with the choice(s) they made for that.
No. 2123284
>>2123273I said what I said. Loli & Shota does bother me but I've been on the internet long enough to know that regardless of what I say, it won't go away and people will still draw that shit regardless of my personal view on it. Hence why I said, most of us who've been in the interweb nerd/geek/fandom landscape just simply don't look that stuff up and don't hang out in spaces that allow that stuff to be posted.
>you align with the likes of Doodletones and hitenIf me not caring about loli/shota in the sense that I just don't engage with that content altogether makes me "align" with those two then I guess so for that one point though Doodle clearly got some rocks off from that stuff (I dunno, it's a moid and I've been around long enough to where I'm wary).
>or maybe it’s just your ageIt probably is. I'm closer to Lio's age and I even suspect that Lio for as much of a blowhard that he is now, more than likely held similar views back in that time as well. I reiterate that it's not so much that I don't care, I just am aware that nothing can be done about it and the difference between Lio and osmeone like myself is that I'm not going to play ACC messiah.
>>2123276>Doodletones has made this argument almost word for word btw let me find the video where he says something like this.Oh did he? Sure, share it. I don't know how Doodles is but I'm sure I'm much older than him but considering how terminally online he is, then sure I can see why even he understood the rule of the internet as well.
>>2123281It's about half and half. I'm in my mid 30s, got onto the internet in 2006 so yeah, I've been around for a long time and seen some shit for sure. I kinda do live on the internet but I also remember to give myself time away from it as well and focus on irl. I'm just an internet dinosaur really remembering how the social media landscape was way back in the 2000s and 2010s. I get that the newer generation is exposed more to these spaces now than when I was a kid but it doesn't change the rules of the web, not until authority figures of legality do take this kind of stuff seriously which I just don't see happening, at least not anytime soon. Once upon a time I did care a little more about this stuff but eventually I just threw my hands up when I kept seeing this kind of drama repeat itself.
No. 2123293
>>2123284Mid 30s and on here is your old ass not embarrassed ?
>>2123282You physically cannot delete your account by accident this is just doodle diapers cope kek. If you click to delete your channel it prompts you to enter your sign in details, then you actually have to select the boxes to confirm that you want to delete your channel.
No. 2123346
>>2123293>Mid 30s and on here is your old ass not embarrassed ? No, why would I be? This kinda stuff is background noise at most. I have my thoughts on these dramas but I don't actively engage with the main players involved in it.
>>2123327>A young adult laughing about drama is acceptable and anyone past 30 here is about as pathetic as Lio. Gossip is funny no matter your age, it's how you handle it that matters more.
>Go pay your rentTotally possible to do while still listening to the drama, people my age have been doing that just fine lol.
>>2123341Either this person is a troll or is just still young. You don't have to live on this site 24/7 to post a comment and engage with the topic(s). You said it best, this is just the internet equivalent of reality TV only instead of trashy people, it's mentally ill people arguing over dumb things and/or taking internet drama like a soap opera. As I said, unless real children and/or animals are being violated, it's not a huge deal.
Again, none of us are saying loli/shota is good or excusable, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would sign petitions back in the 2000s on DeviantART to try to get rid of that stuff but again, we just had to learn the hard way about the law of the internet.
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>>2119901You covered for her all this time, you always seem to be last to know anything about the people in your circle.