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A place to discuss and vent about pickme or fake self-serving feminist behaviour you have witnessed or experienced, online or IRL, to post cringe screenshots or memes, theories and tinfoils etc.
This is separate from the tradthot general as it’s not just for discussing particular women with particular belief systems, as there are many kinds of pickme out there. However, trad-thottery can still be discussed as it is classified as pickme behaviour.
Pick Me General #1 >>>/2X/627
Handmaiden Thread >>>/ot/398608
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This was in /g/. I wasn't sure if this should go in pp or here since it's a little of both. Op had stated that she experiences no pleasure during sex and has no libido and is trying to teach herself to swallow even though she's disgusted by it.
Sure if they both have different libidos it's a problem but why is it that whenever someone says "you have to give and take" that exclusively means the woman has to put up with a level of discomfort to please her man? What's HE giving up for this relationship to work?
God I feel bad for her but I can't imagine buying this bullshit. Men don't need
sex more than women, they're raised to expect it and it has fewer consequences for them than it does us. Testosterone might make them feel horny more often but that doesn't mean they need
sex. They also very obviously don't use sex to form emotional bonds with women, horny men's brains react to female bodies like we're tools to be used, not people, and men are the ones who obsess over hatefucking and using sex to punish women. The reason sex is so important for men in relationships isn't because they're bonding with you, it's because they feel entitled to your body on demand and if they don't get it, they aren't gonna waste time and effort maintaining a relationship. >Obviously don't force yourself to have sex if you don't want to, but
to force themselves to have sex they don't want. I hate handmaidens who act like a relationship with a man (who statistically only detracts from your life) who doesn't even care if you want to fuck him as long as you'll let it happen is worth it. Any man who fucks you when he knows you don't want him to does not care about you. Why call a relationship where you let a man, who does not care about you, fuck you in a way you do not want nor enjoy, a successful relationship? If failed relationships are the ones where women try enforcing their boundaries, I can't imagine why any women would expect other women to accept that. You're supposed to be his girlfriend, not his fucking fleshlight.
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>>4632>spending your time hating others instead of focusing on your wellbeing is path for misery
I don't think I've ever heard anyone actually encourage selfishness wow
Also did not realize how bad that grammar (and sp? what does not having a space between words count as) was until I typed it out
I really try to help some of the women/girls in that thread but a lot of them are in deep
. Also funny about her saying most guys have a high libido because more women than ever are actually complaining about the reverse. A ton of guys have ED at 20-something years old these days and would prefer to jack off to she-males or "bimbofied" barely human-looking porn actresses over having sex with their flesh and blood partner.
You don’t have to. That’s not my point. My point is the adult women who lash out and hurt other people and blame their mothers and arm chair diagnosis them instead of being able to objectively look at the situation are locked in a trauma response. I personally find it grating when most of the time my personal abuse was more severe and yet they think there’s warrants they’re behavior while hypocritically pointing the finger at their mother. The climate and acceptance about doing toxic
shit and blaming your mommy for not loving you enough is a red flag for me and those women always end up just as abusive
as their mothers.
nyart, you seem really upset over your personal situation rather then considering what the other nona was trying to communicate. my mother was also a shit person to me growing up, and while i never would remove her from the actions she chose to take, i can also acknowledge that a lot of her issues came from my dad who didn't participate in household affairs often and caused issues for my mother. pain is always a two sided communication of receiving/giving and women aren't outwardly antagonistic without reason, especially mothers.
she still hurt you, and maybe it was just because of her own actions, but the other nona was trying to communicate that in MOST situations where the mother is being blamed it is because of both parents and the father gets overlooked. please stop trying to defend your own shitty situation against a prompt that seems to not apply to you
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are you talking about toby turner? yeah she dated him. I've been semi following her for a few years, a lot of secondhand cringe and lack of self awareness. for example she likes to be hypercritical of other women's bodies yet her body is pretty unimpressive, she thinks having massive fake tits and hair bleached to a crisp is the epitome of female beauty.>>4778
she is def not getting any actual use out of it, she's just doing the video to show how she's le cool gf who is okay with objectifying women to the point of having a headless woman doll in your closet that you can fuck
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I feel like women these days have just accepted misogyny and gave up caring about their dignity. Like in a hobby community or music scene with a lot of misogyny they'll just go along with it and think it's funny. I don't think women in previous generations did this. For context this lady is at a concert and wearing a shirt of a popular meme in this fanbase.
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Seeing the first few uploads on her youtube channel tells you enough
Jesus Christ, this is pathetic.
and people make it out like a single woman with cats is losing somehow? this is painful to see
I'm a female cuck uwu>35k views 1 month ago
Threesome advice uwu>16k views 1 month ago
Latest vid>7.8k views
Nobody cares about her pathetic sex life but still she keeps going because scrote attention. At some point, shes going to get dumped/hurt, be alone, then blame feminists for not coddling her retarded choices
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Yep, especially among young women in liberal areas. I find it sad and dystopian. So many girls wearing hentai ahegao shirts, Pornhub shirts and Playboy bunny necklaces "ironically" or "because it's cute/funny." Really shows they've never thought critically about these things a day in their lives but go along with it because it's trendy and men and the media shill it to them as empowering. They can't fathom a time when their entire sex had little to no rights and these things were blatant signs of their oppression. Now things no self-respecting woman would have worn in the last generation are being paraded around proudly.
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>check a YouTuber's bio
>"ok, whatever, I can look past it.."
>click on a random video of hers
>she's wearing picrel
The funniest part is that men themselves make those arguments all the time, like>reeeee women only want the top 20% of men>men are only valued for what they can provide, not who they are!!
then throw a fit when if they hear a woman say the same thing lmao.
Sorry moids, if you think we have to be broodmare bangmaids you should also accept that only hot young guys are worth reproducing with. The rest of you can be canon fodder and do manual labour while we make sandwiches for Chad!
I don't know how to feel anymore, because pick-mes and handmaidens annoy the shit out of me. I hate the way they keep holding the door wide open for men to step on all of us, then browbeat us with claims that we can just "teach [the men] better". No, men know it's bad to rape and generally be evil. They just don't care. There's something fundamentally different about them. You can live with one nice Nigel, whatever, but women and men coexisting on a mass scale will always lead to fucked up shit happening. Violence is okay to them.
But on the other hand, can pick-mes even help it? They're socialized to cope hard, make excuses for men and try to act as impromptu mothers/caretakers. They're not deliberately trying to sabotage things, they genuinely think men just "don't know better". Straight women will also always want to have sex and relationships with men. It honestly feels like there's a cap on how far feminism can go before it gets overriden and/or rolled back. And the rights we have are always, always conditional, because men are still in power. Is there even a point in fighting anymore? It seems like the only real solution is for small pockets of lesbians and bisexual women to go full separatist
Ironically what peaked me the most was interacting with men. Hate to give my ex any credit but he was such an abusive
piece of shit I finally realized all the terrible things other women tried to warn me about were true, and yes, men really
are that evil. Having been able to listen in to their conversations, even the seemingly nice ones are deranged and manipulative in one way or another. At least they tell on themselves. Just sucks when you're young and dumb you have to learn things firsthand rather than listening to those with more experience. Just glad I got out alive.
I know it gets really tiring, but even knowing the depths of men's depravity I don't think the world is such a bleak place. If former pickmes exist (as I am myself) you have to remember there's hope other women can break free from the conditioning in turn. As a straight woman you could not give me all the money in the world to regularly interact with men anymore. A few guys are fun to look at but that's literally all they add to my life, not a great loss to remove them entirely. I already try to practice soft separatism by visiting female service providers, doctors, businesses and only having female friends these days. I feel like in general we are still progressing. Look at how many rights we have these days compared to just a few decades ago. Even considering extremely misogynistic countries like in the Middle East, a lot of women have internet access now and get exposed to feminist ideas so they can eventually emigrate to better places or work to improve/educate their own countries where possible. The thing is it's never been about educating men, it's about educating women. So many women still never have the opportunity to go to school, explore career options and their own interests before they're immediately shunted into being an old scrote's bangmaid. But the more we disrupt that, the more women are given access to education and the means to care for themselves, the more they help other women and raise us all up to be more self sufficient, even as men desperately try to drag us back down. Yes it would be ideal if we could have a society that was purely by and for women, but I don't think we should be so quick to think we can't develop those "pockets" in our existing structures either. Maybe that's not very radfem of me, but the reason I focus on that is because I think it's a more viable option that I will at least continue to see expand in my lifetime as opposed to an entirely new societal structure.
same. and one of the things that really stood out from that experience, for me - as a former NLOG, was that all the women in my life were supportive af during and after the abuse, even if i wasn't close or in touch with them much. really made me see how superficial my male friendships were and how the dynamic was usually built and reliant on my pick-me ways.
wish there was a less damaging way to have come to that realisation sooner though. unfortunately i just grew up feeling so alienated from girls (bullied, left out, not many shared interests with the girls I knew) so the pick-me/nlog thing was just a massive cope, as i suspect is common.
We actually have the power to make lasting change, but I don't think many feminists would be eager to do what needs to be done. (I know I'm not). Our power, unfortunately, lies in that which we despise - motherhood. As the arbiters of reproduction, we could select for smaller, weaker, more agreeable men, and/or birth girls to tip the ratio in our favor. It would take considerable time, but we could slowly shape the world to our advange, and not theirs. I know that sounds insane to suggest, but things like separatism or legal changes are only temporary and all progress can easily be reversed in less than a generation. I'm not saying we all should give up our dreams and get knocked up tomorrow, but maybe we could start with simply supporting mothers, I've heard a lot of them feel very unwelcome in radfem circles.
I'll sage this because is not really very in tune with the thread's theme but I want to add my 2 cents.
I've never been a pick-me, I would consider myself just a run of the mill woman, but I live in Mexico. An average of 10 women are killed every day here, so naturally I began sliding to the feminist side. But here is very hard to make others care about feminism or even take it seriously in any way, so I turned to "first world country" feminism if you will. Obviously "Liberal Feminism" quickly repulsed me and after finding about the tranny debacle I turned to "Radical Feminism". It was very interesting and even fun at first but slowly it started to show its ugly head. While liberal feminism could be considered NLOG-TYPE2 feminism (which has misogynistic/sexist views/ideas towards other women. ex. Religious, "conservative", etc.), Radical Feminism is pretty much NLOG-TYPE1 feminism because it frowns down upon housewives, mothers, straight women, women in romantic relationships with men, etc.). All of that creates division within ourselves, division among women and solely for maintaining some sort of social purist ideology.
Now with that said, "separatism" won't work because it is male centric, is literally ya'll running away from the evil ape male, which I completely understand. On the other hand being "pro-women" will because it focuses on what women want, need and deserve. We need to stop alienating other women because of their life choices, a male won't care about any of that when he is set on killing a woman. If we as a collective can move past mindless nitpicking (when we are trying to uplift, help, establish and maintaining our rights) things will improve drastically and faster. It doesn't mean we should be friends or accept other women we don't like in our personal life, I'm a trash talker and gossiper and will always be, but went it comes to other women, fellow women, who suffer like us, are hurt like us by the hands of males (because we all do) I'm more than willing to put aside ANY difference we may have.
>TL/DR: Together we stand, divided we fall. much love.
I completely agree. Unpopular opinion, but I think intersectionalism, in current practice, causes more problems than it solves. From what I've seen, we end up arguing over who needs attention the most and nothing really gets done. I think it would be much more effective to have a two pronged approach: a broad feminism which addresses only things that affect us all (domestic/sexual/societal violence, reproductive/maternity rights, equal opportunity, etc.) and many smaller groups that hyper focus on different types of women and their unique struggles, lead by experts in their respective fields. We wouldn't need to become "jack of all trades and master of none", but instead could freely flow from the various smaller focused groups, depending on their need or our personal interest, while still uniting under the larger group. The smaller groups would naturally be separated from each other, so there would be less opportunity for needless infighting to begin in the first place, and the members could instead direct all of their energy towards their respective causes.
She also has a shitton of videos basically saying if you don't want an open relationship you're insecure and letting your emotions control you. She has another video about when Belle Delphine posted graphic pictures of her rape porn on Twitter and basically said people were stupid for getting offended because muh free speech. Yet she'll get bent out of shape if you say you don't think onlyfans is a legit career.
I could go on, but yeah she is pretty terrible
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I believe the energy created by pickmes could be harnessed by a politician and used to advance their purposes. Similar to how Steve Bannon targeted incels and their energy for Trump's campaign.
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now that's a tinfoil I'm willing to die on.
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I don't mean this as any sort of personal attack, but statements like yours are the reason why I can't ever take non-socialist western feminist seriously, what you just posted wasn't insane it was stupid, its a stupid dumb improbable fantasy and for god knows what reason western radfems focus way too much time on, I mean seriously you need to get out of these dumb fantasies and university spaces and actually think about the issues effect majority of women and the realistic things you can do to aid the, instead of making up shit >>4888
you explained my thought process better then I could, so many western radfems focus on either abstract theories of offer completely improbable solutions, "um you should try separatism" "women in the middle east should strive for financial independence from men" none of that can work, they apply their very specific and warped cultural framework towards on entire nations and civilizations
I've been wondering about Johnny pickmes lately, there are way more women on his side than there are actual stans who are just mindlessly supporting him because they're fans. It's obvious that people desperately want to think that women can be equally abusive
as men and men are valid victims
etc, and they are absolutely frothing at the idea of seeing it proved in court. For men it's obviously because it benefits them but I think women want to believe it because then they can attribute abuse to 'bad people' in general. Like if it's a small minority of a few bad apples and gender is irrelevant, they don't have to face the horrifying and depressing fact that men just hate women and enjoy inflicting violence on us. It's a hard pill to swallow for male identified women who can't let go of their romantic fantasies.
I agree that 99.99999% of focus should be on realistic issues that affect women in the here and now. However, I don't think it is unreasonable to have both long and short term goals. I think having something to look forward to, a future to hope for (that can't be torn to shreds by a cabal of angry apes in seconds) is not stupid. I was responding very specifically to this statement> It honestly feels like there's a cap on how far feminism can go before it gets overriden and/or rolled back. And the rights we have are always, always conditional, because men are still in power. Is there even a point in fighting anymore?
All I was trying to say in response to that anon is that I don't think we are destined to this path. I think it can be different, and maybe that's enough to give someone the strength to keep fighting for another day.
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This is the #1 thing I can't stand about pickmes. They're never okay just debasing themselves, they always have to try and bring all other women down with them.
She also has this terrible article https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/sex-and-dating/leonardo-dicaprio-age-gap-jokes
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A screenshot of the article to get an idea
lmao at least she admits it's leverage, instead of the 'uwu age is just a number we really love each other!!' shit that most pickmes say about their geriatric scrotes.
She's a short sighted idiot and is doomed for a miserable future since she places so much value on male perception of women's ages. Live by their praise, die by their insults. Meanwhile most women marry men within a few years of their age, at the average age of 30 years old.
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>>4923>It honestly feels like there's a cap on how far feminism can go before it gets overriden and/or rolled back. And the rights we have are always, always conditional, because men are still in power. Is there even a point in fighting anymore?
I see this interpretation a lot among western feminists, when they see the decline of women right's in the middle east, this ignores the actual context and complexities of those states at that time, even basic women's rights in what is now the muslim world came as a result of secular nationalist leaders, they weren't mass social movements, they were aspect of secularization done by dictators,so I have often see Iran be used as an example by western feminists of "it could happen here" and to me that only reveals them to be incredibly misinformed people who don't do research
I'm reposting this from another thread
I really don't wanna seem like I'm defending Islam, I really don't but there's narrative among western libfems and radfems that needs to die, regarding the iranian islamic revolution, there's this idea that the revolution happened cause men were worried about losing power and cause they were scared of westernization, so they deposed the progressive government and installed religious dictatorship that oppressed women, that's the general Idea and its given feminist in the west fears and anxieties about a "it could happen here" type scenario in the west and margaret atwood famously wrote a handmaids tale based on this premise and here's the thing, this narrative is false and has been manipulated by western feminists to create an insufferable element of self victimization
thing people need to understand is that Iran under the Shah was an oppressive dictatorship, the vast majority of men and women were farmers and workers living as peasants, anyone who spoke out against the Shah was found by a secret police, jailed without trial, tortured and either executed or forced to rot in those jails, people were literally starving, yes there was a westernized progressive lifestyle for a small urban elite of 15% of the nation, but the vast majority of Iranian women were illiterate peasant farmers, people revolted against the Shah not cause they were angry that women were wearing skirts but cause they couldn't feed their children, the Shah's regime also had arrested every liberal, communist, nationalistic and leftist political leader, so all those were left were the clerics who ended up leading this peasant movement and creating the state of Iran as it is today
again I'm not defending Islam or the religious radicals here, but I hate the way feminists in the west have hijacked this tragedy and use it as a tool to feel more oppressed "Iran was a progressive country, we could lose our rights just like they did, If we aren't careful" and that's a fantasy, the historical material conditions that happened in Iran do not exist in the west, Its a delusional fantasy>>4925
I'm sorry but those weren't realistic solutions, those were retarded fantasies that will never help anyone, "oh lets breed out taller and violent men and kill the big aggressive ones" "lets start a war against men and we'll kill them kitchen knives and force them to be subservient to us" by god you come across as an Idiot and the only reason you get to delude yourself in these dumb fantasies is cause you have no basis of what actual misogyny can be look like
also I have a question, can you name me one of your enlightened western radfem academics who has ever helped women in the global south in any conceivable way, again I'm sorry but the theories of a bunch of university going Idiots who never once helped woman are not wroth being discussed, In fact they fill me with rage cause they spent time effort on this petty bullshit rather then helping women, so for me most western radfems are pick-me's
>>4908>"you need to get out of these dumb fantasies and university spaces">thinks socialism will work
can you guys take this to another thread already? I just want to point and laugh at the dumb pickmes
Anyways I'm not a radfem, and socialism has done nothing good for women
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>>4943>socialism has done nothing good for women
NTA but you're so wrong kek, one of the most blatant examples is how it got rid of human trafficking in most cases, and women didn't have to become prostitutes for survival anymore. When the Soviet Bloc fell, guess what happened to Eastern European women. Not saying it was perfect by any means but socialism definitely improves women's lives to some extent.
She is absolutely right, to be a radfem that actually works towards liberating women you need to be left-wing of some sort, and a solid economic analysis. Just saying "males are inherently evil so we gotta revolt against them" isn't enough, the problem is more complex than that. (However I do agree that men are inherently violent/degenerate/act entitled, etc.)
I understand what she's on about, she seems to have created this narrative in her mind of majority of women who were suffragettes getting rights through acts of terrorism and violence(those were isolated incidents of which almost all were acts of vandalism of mail bombs that were not intended to actually hurt anyone) and men cow towed and reluctantly gave women's rights and have been plotting ever sense to drag women back somehow, that's the usual western radfem narrative
none of them ever bothered to read that suffrage wasn't exclusively a female thing, in many cases women got the right to vote a couple decades after men and it was a gradual movement, non western european women got rights mostly thanks to force of secular and nationalist nationalist leaders
see democracy just can't work for the Muslim world, in my nation every politician has to out Islam the other and be the better Muslim to ever get elected, the Muallahs here can destroy you, a mullah has to just give one sermon talking about you and be assured a mob will come and destroy your entire house and stone you to death
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Well I know someone irl whose grandmother fled the USSR to come to north America. If it was such a utopia I wonder why she left. >>4984>she seems to have created this narrative in her mind of majority of women who were suffragettes getting rights through acts of terrorism and violence
No I didn't. I never said anything about acts of violence. Also do you think that socialist revolutions typically happened without violence?
K, I'll admit I'm hardly knowledgeable about the politics of Islamic countries, and yes I'm sure socialism would be better. But it really sounds like Islam is the root of the problem here, not lack of socialism.
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This is somebody's mother
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her and dean and broke up btw
I think truth is a more reliable weapon than doing mental gymnastics with scrote ideologies. >women are hypergamous
Not real, based only on studies that measure "preference", which is not observable when it comes to actually choosing partners: either due to the fact that people tell culturally appropriate preferences when asked or due to the fact that women accept men as they are and accommodate their standards according to reality. >there are fewer female geniuses
Whooh, this is a really big topic, which I would like to redpill women about one day (I don't know where though), but I will try to be short. First of all genius is a social construct - people are geniuses because others tell so and women are culturally prohibited to become geniuses: there was a study that examined students reviews of their professors, which showed that they were less likely to describe women and black people as "geniuses" and "brilliant", also female researchers are cited less. If you are referring to the so called male variability hypothesis I can assure you that it's nothing but an inflated bubble: there is no conclusive proof that finds that such a thing actually exists (biased scientists who believe in this hypothesis are literally like 4choids infographists - bombard you with cherry picked and misinterpreted research, sometimes even with outdated ancient shit), the large margin of research doesn't find any differences (provided that male mouthbreathers are not taken into account - they are the ones that produce the "difference" in the first place) and the only established differences in ""variability"" are in the traits that are nurtured not "nature-d" (morphological ones like body size or parts of brain structure that are not inherited in next generation), ie they are not inherited and most likely are the product of some other mechanism (male greater dependence on nurture) which is not just dice that makes men magically more variable as powers that be want us to believe - this also explains why women are more likely to be polymaths, men are just memed to be limited on one thing and due to greater engagement achieve more in it. >women are less competitive and driven
This is just a male-brained take, it makes sense only from male perspective. Women are less hierarchical and more cooperative, which means that in female group structure competition is going to be situational instead of constant like it is in the male one - only when it's necessary to be so. Which doesn't mean that women are less competitive in terms of skill at all. And if anything in terms of absolutes women seem to be more "driven" since we are more prone to addictive patterns of behaviour, which is the negative side effect of having a stronger will - dopamine, the motivational hormone, fuels both of these things (think of it as continuing to do some action even when circumstances no longer allow for it). Men are just more autistic.
PS: JSYK I am not on crusade against you or anything. It's just your post has activated my pet peeve against psychological aikido.
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Pickme with mainly redpill/MGTOW followers posts dating ad for her sister on Twitter, presumably without consent. Gets the predictable replies like “the wall” and “empty egg cartons”. I’d never speak to my family member again if they did this to me.
All of this 100%. God, the genius thing in particular – I work in a creative field that has been historically male dominated, and my god, now that women are here and have a little more stability, the things they're creating are jaw dropping. The kind of experimentation with form, storytelling, visuals – just masterpieces every single year. Not everything is amazing, but sometimes I really do feel like I'm living the dream so many early feminists worked to make possible. The fact that we're accomplishing all of this SO FAST, like we were just chomping at the bit all along and the moment we get a chance, we burst to life…we have no fucking clue what genius really is. And it throws all these other assumptions into doubt. We don't yet know what women are capable of, but we're getting there, and it's incredible.
so… she got all of these tattoos, and then cheated on him? the tattoos are cringe enough already, but then to cheat when you know it would end your relationship and the tattoos are permanent. I don't even feel bad for her, she's just dumb. I feel bad for the kid though.>>5061
I wonder what her sister will do when she sees this
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Exactly, if the sister wanted to date someone I'm sure she could find someone in real life. Not surprised she already blocked her pick me sister before. Also it's terrible to post her kids with this kind of audience too.
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Women have been brainwashed that it’s cool and progressive to go to strip clubs with their boyfriends.
Straight women that do this shit are the stupidest pick-mes. I wouldn’t want to pay someone else to dangle her tits in front of me. I also wouldn’t want to let my boyfriend toss more cash than he’s willing to spend on me at some woman for performing sexual acts for him.
Spoilered for long stupid AITA story
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Repeating the same shit troons say online loool. She is a they/them btw.
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It's yet another case of massive double standards too. Can you imagine the astronomical shit fit a scrote would throw if his gf wanted him to come and have a buff man wave his barely clothed dick in front of his face? How it would be gay, cucked, insane, insulting? It's so depressing that women are not only supposed to be okay with a man doing it alone but also dragging them along to legitimize the emotional and near-physical cheating. Goes to show how commonplace it is to objectify women that it's just seen as another normal extension of that. Story is pathetic. The guy is literally making arts and crafts for a random stripper but if his partner gets mad she's just being "anti-sexwork"! No shit. >hesitant because he thought I'd be upset
Men are entirely aware their behavior is gross and disloyal, they just proceed to gaslight their partners into thinking they're the crazy ones for not allowing it. I bet he's never made a single thing for his girlfriend in the entire time they've been together.
Ok but why does >>5295
look like she's trying to cosplay as shoe0nhead and why does >>5296
look like he just is
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Maybe it's because a lot of women have been hurt by men and reading shit like "boys are actually wholesome you're just mean uwu" pisses them off?
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i wonder if any scarethots were peaked by this candid discussion on how men brown-nose in the workplace.
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Idk if I'm one of the anons you're referring to but some of the anons here seem like they have an irrational hatred of gay men, like saying they don't deserve rights and making fun of gay men in the middle east for getting thrown off of buildings, being like "it's hilarious how they can't stop having buttsex to save their lives". I mean that one was probably a troll but it's far from the only one who has expressed really hateful views towards gay dudes.
don't get me wrong, a lot of (maybe most) gay guys are terrible and I'm really fucking tired of people (even some on lolcow) whining about how straight women "fetishize" gay men but some of the hatred is too much even for me.
I feel like women who defend them have likely not spent much time around gays and have an image of them being this pure, equally victimized subset of men. They are some of the first to leap on the stinky fish vagina jokes and thoughtlessly grab women's boobs which is fine because they're not "into that." I have one gay friend, all the others I've encountered are just as toxic
as straights but pretend they can't possibly be misogynistic because they aren't incels who want to hate-fuck us. No, instead we're disposable objects of ridicule and jealousy. It's always women leaping to the defense of every other group aside from their own. At best men turn into mutes when women are getting insulted, at worst they join in.
I've always wondered about this. Do you think there are lesbians out there who feel resentment towards gay men from this.
It was mainly lesbians that nursed them during the aids crisis but nowadays (and from I heard somewhere they were also the main ones who cleaned up after pride parades; don't quote me on that though)
when lesbian spaces are being erased fairly quickly meanwhile gay spaces are thriving, and with them collectively (or a least mostly) staying silent while troons are attempting to make it socially acceptable to coerce lesbians into taking dick (yes, I know there gay troons who obviously don't do this but it certainly doesn't help that we hear no corrections from that group either)…
I don't know how lesbians still think that them and gays are on the same side of the rainbow coin. The only thing that unified the two groups was the fight for same-sex relationships/marriage and employment protections, and even then, I'm not seeing gays getting cancelled out of their jobs like lesbians are.
If this question comes off as rather homophobic forgive me. But as a het woman looking at this from the outside there's obviously a lot that's not being reciprocated here. From my perspective, lesbian nursed gays back to health only to be repaid in erasure.
I mean, how are lesbians not pissed?
Exactly, but for ~some~ reason people fromm all walks of life decided to go ultra-SJW mode against Amber Heard while most of these demographics stay silent or even support the abusive
male when he is being grilled otherwise. Really makes you think! And of course this is if you swallow the narrative that Amber Heard was the eevil abuse this entire time, which is contrary to reality.
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What the hell is this idiot even trying to say, is she implying that women who had abortions are evil and that the men would have been great dads?
They're always grieving babies who never even took a breath but completely lack empathy for their fully-formed partners who had to deal with the mental and physical stress of knowing her body and livelihood were at risk after getting pregnant. Not to mention all the turmoil they deal with considering whether to keep it or not, then their dumbass boyfriends make that worse. Men are so egocentric that they miss a nonexistent symbol of their legacy more than they care about their partners. And let's be clear, it is
just a symbol to them because you know they'd be minimally if at all involved in childcare if the woman did birth it.
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If anything we need more of this “dump him feminism”
Exactly, I always see dump him comments when the dude is pathetic>complex individual human beings deserving of live and dignity
Because the girlfriends don't deserve this same love and dignity by having to stick with losers?
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>force femininity on other women
Yeah no miss me with this shit.
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Oh she was trying to play victim
after this tweet lmao
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Boy mom moment
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from the celbricows thread, the equal and opposite version of this act, like It's fine and good to have a strong bond with your kids, but you also need to have boundaries. this is just really fucking weird
this is disgusting and sexual abuse holy fuck
whats with with certain moms and being very touchy? ngl I'm a bit triggered
and blog posting but my mom would kiss me a lot and smack my ass and it sent me into an autistic meltdown every time. I wanted to scratch my skin off
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Its called emotional incest, a lot of women who have had shitty experiences with men and people throughout their lives, project all their desires and emotional wants on to one of their children(usually their son but it can happen to daughters as well, such as your case) your mother doesn't think of you as a daughter, rather a on/off galpal that she has complete power over
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omg u guize, poor men… we should stop oppressing them tbh???
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Camille Paglia is an enigma really, she seems to say shit that pisses off everyone across sex and the political spectrum but she seems to genuinely believe in it and seems like a terrible person >In 1993, Paglia signed a manifesto supporting NAMBLA, a pederasty and pedophilia advocacy organization. In 1994, Paglia supported lowering the legal age of consent to 14. She noted in a 1995 interview with pro-pedophile activist Bill Andriette, "I fail to see what is wrong with erotic fondling with any age." In a 1997 Salon column, Paglia expressed the view that male pedophilia correlates with the heights of a civilization, stating "I have repeatedly protested the lynch-mob hysteria that dogs the issue of man-boy love. In Sexual Personae, I argued that male pedophilia is intricately intertwined with the cardinal moments of Western civilization." Paglia noted in several interviews, as well as Sexual Personae, that she supports the legalization of certain forms of child pornography.
also >Though she has not transitioned, Paglia identifies as transgender. She reports having gender dysphoria since childhood, and says that "never once in my life have I felt female". She says that she was "donning flamboyant male costumes from early childhood on".
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She worships Foucault and thinks the Athenians were the greatest civilization in history, she's a pick-me but her pickmeism is rather unique, she reminds me a lot of Mary Renault, a proto-fujoshi in a way, she was also obesseded with greek athenian history and man-boy love and was noted her misogyny, even men of her time in the 1950's thought her misogyny was too much >Women do not play a large role in Challans' historical fiction, and are relegated to the role of wives and mothers. They often behave in stereotypical ways, being simultaneously helpless and ruthless. Critics have remarked on the negative portrayal of women, particularly mothers, in her work. This is often attributed to the fraught relationship Challans had with her own mother. David Sweetman remarks in his biography of Challans that her novels generally portray mothers in a poor light and that, particularly in her later novels, this is extended to women in general. Daniel Mendelsohn said that both her "contemporary and the Greek novels feature unsettling depictions of bad marriages and, particularly, of nightmarishly passive-aggressive wives and mothers." Her generally negative depiction of women has also been noted by the critic Carolyn Gold Heilbrun.
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their moving goalposts, wokies will always find a way to lump POC
with the mythical "cishet white patriarchy" in America this seems happens too east asians, but in France this is also common with successful north african immigrant families like my own, depending on the narrative we can either be either poor down trodden minorities or equally racist colonizers as the French
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sorry for being a brainlet but is this person saying modern women are evil and feminism has run its course because some women in 1000s of years old stories are depicted as evil?
mary magdalene is a saint and was one of jesus' most faithful deciples did she mean mary bethany? the prostitute who jesus washed the feet of who then renounced her ways and became a desciple and who again later became a saint
do these people have any idea what the fuck they are talking about?
I know some women don't want to hear this because they personally enjoy sex with men, and would prefer not to believe it affects them mentally or physically. I think it still needs to be said, though. This specific phenomenon has been observed in multiple other animals, and there are a lot of articles on this that try to make semen affecting the brain sound nice ("Semen can actually cure women's depression!") or try to pretend it only affects women's fertility. It's sad. Also, regarding the second half: We all know about very pickmeish "boymoms", but have we ever asked ourselves if there's any hormonal/physiological reason why they're like that? https://www.feelguide.com/2015/07/24/researchers-discover-the-powerful-physiological-effects-of-semen-on-womens-bodies-brains-dna/
>In scientific terms, semen is what’s known as a “master regulator”. Scientists have discovered how seminal fluid (which makes up approx. 70% of semen’s composition) has enormous physiological impacts on the female body and brain, including, among other things: the ability to activate genes, trigger changes in the uterus, reduce levels of depression in women, make women sleepy after sex, strengthen the emotional bond with their partner, and more.
>The wide-ranging influence of semen on female physiology is “all about maximising the chances of the male reproducing,” says Sarah Robertson of the University of Adelaide in Australia. Further research conducted by a team led by Tracey Chapman of the University of East Anglia in Norwich, UK, has also found that males produce more seminal proteins when in the presence of rivals.
>The discoveries were presented at the Society for Molecular Biology and Evolution conference in Vienna last week. The component of the research which found that semen significantly reduces levels of depression in women gained much attention at the conference. “If that effect is real, depression in some people might be treatable with artificial-semen suppositories,” writes Michael Le Page of New Scientist. “Gordon Gallup of the State University of New York at Albany, who carried out the study, says a PhD student of his has replicated the finding in a survey of 1000 women, but the results were never published.”
>The proteins of seminal fluid can quickly enter the blood stream and reach the brain, having an almost instantaneous effect on hormone regulation, mood, gene activation, immune system regulation, ovulation, uterus receptivity to sperm and embryo, and even the activity and growth within the embryo itself. The take home message clearly being that semen’s effect on female physiology goes far beyond reproduction alone.
>In related research, scientists have also discovered the DNA of sons inside 63% of the brains of their mothers. Cells from a mother and fetus can cross the blood-brain barrier and enter the brain — and what’s more, fetal DNA can enter a mother’s brain and remain there for decades, according to autopsies of female brains. Lee Nelson of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle performed autopsies on 59 brains of deceased women — 33 of whom had Alzheimer’s. As New Scientist writes, “They amplified the DNA that they found, creating many more copies, and looked for the presence of a male Y chromosome. They found it in 63% of the brains. This male DNA showed up in many different brain regions and some of it had been there for a very long time: one brain that contained the male DNA was from a 94-year-old woman.”
>So how is this possible? As Edward Scott of the Department of Molecular Genetics and Microbiology at the University of Florida in Gainesville predicts, it is almost certainly due to the presence of fetal cells in the mother’s body which are likely allowing her immune system to recognize her child’s cells, thus explaining why they wouldn’t be attacked. This discovery could open the door to mother-son transplants of various types that could take advantage of this DNA “bridge” and be relatively easy-breezy compared to transplants that do not have a DNA bridge.
Here's one of the studies referenced in the article:https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0045592>In humans, naturally acquired microchimerism has been observed in many tissues and organs. Fetal microchimerism, however, has not been investigated in the human brain. Microchimerism of fetal as well as maternal origin has recently been reported in the mouse brain. In this study, we quantified male DNA in the human female brain as a marker for microchimerism of fetal origin (i.e. acquisition of male DNA by a woman while bearing a male fetus). Targeting the Y-chromosome-specific DYS14 gene, we performed real-time quantitative PCR in autopsied brain from women without clinical or pathologic evidence of neurologic disease (n = 26), or women who had Alzheimer’s disease (n = 33). We report that 63% of the females (37 of 59) tested harbored male microchimerism in the brain. Male microchimerism was present in multiple brain regions. Results also suggested lower prevalence (p = 0.03) and concentration (p = 0.06) of male microchimerism in the brains of women with Alzheimer’s disease than the brains of women without neurologic disease. In conclusion, male microchimerism is frequent and widely distributed in the human female brain.
Here's another:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5293315/>Male microchimerism, the presence of a small number of male cells, in women has been attributed to prior pregnancies. However, male microchimerism has also been reported in women with only daughters, in nulliparous women and prepubertal girls suggesting that other sources of male microchimerism must exist. The aim of the present study was to examine the presence of male microchimerism in a cohort of healthy nulliparous Danish girls aged 10–15 y using DNA extracted from cells from whole blood (buffy coats) and report the association with potential sources of male cells. A total of 154 girls were studied of which 21 (13.6%) tested positive for male microchimerism. There was a tendency that girls were more likely to test positive for male microchimerism if their mothers previously had received transfusion, had given birth to a son or had had a spontaneous abortion. Furthermore, the oldest girls were more likely to test positive for male microchimerism. However, less than half of microchimerism positivity was attributable to these factors. In conclusion, data suggest that male microchimerism in young girls may originate from an older brother either full born or from a discontinued pregnancy or from transfusion during pregnancy. We speculate that sexual intercourse may be important but other sources of male cells likely exist in young girls.
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There's a weirdo in the relationship advice thread who's very offended that some women want to remain single, I bet that's the same idiot that was clutching her pearls about childfree people last week.
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I don't get upset anymore I just laugh, really. It's still depressing though.
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Because she won’t be fuckable to redpilled pedos anymore.
Ironically her husband responds in a supportive yet rather twisted way; by reassuring her that he is attracted to her and then also agreeing to a suicide pact. A modern gothic romance.
for the 4w.pub link what does >If you choose to stay, you will develop a mysterious chronic illness, cancer, or autoimmune condition
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I know damn well if the results were opposite, she and her followers would be blaming it on something inherently wrong with women.
It’s a reference to stories about women were getting who the stress triggers
auto immune diseases that haven’t been diagnosed yet like lupus. There’s been a few in the news
Buffalo shooter in the states was also watching furry porn on his way to the super market for a fucked up fact.
Oh and studies to boys exposed to porn being more likely to do sexual violence. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11121-017-0810-4
>six times as likely to commit sexual violence.
Proof children are getting exposed to porn https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244019899462https://www.echildhood.org/statement>as high as 65% by 13 in boys
they've learned to get into it to attract women, they don't actually believe in anything except trying to get sex. they've gotten into shit like tarot and yoga, too.
"if he knows his rising sign, he's a hoe"
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This is so sick. Imagine being happy and prideful about getting hit.
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one pick me i have come across personally was this Sarah girl who went by @yourfavoritepickmee on tiktok and twitter that i cam across when i was 16. She called herself a "Based anti-feminist" and had a link to a charity for men's mental health in her bio. most of her tiktoks were of her trying way to hard to pander to 13 year old incels. She is a women her 20's and she would make fun of teenage girls for their appearance, make fun of rape, would call out anything criticizing men and generally tried to be as anti-female as possible. As far as i can tell from google(i'm never downloading tiktok again), she she hasn't been active for over a year on anything. I assume she realized how much of a retard she was being and left the internet. All that remains of her is duets and some images on google.
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praying for handmaidens to get better
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Poor kid not only growing up with a porn actress mom but also a porn actress mol that uses you as a prop to make mens dicks hard
Never said she should have her bodily autonomy removed, retard. This is the pickme thread, if you can't handle people saying negative things about women you should get out.
>rotten scrote children
Her kid is a girl.>>6405>Reproduction is not a privilege women earn by being ‘good.’
Never said it was, stop putting words in my mouth.
>If she is fertile she can have as many kids as she wants, because she is simply able to. Nature gave her that right.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. A lot of people, men and women, shouldn't be parents. It's not that deep. Go back to ovarit.
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Seeing this makes me think if libfems saw a woman getting beaten to a pulp or about to get kidnapped, would they hesitant on helping her just in case she's a mean radfem?
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>feels really scary
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I love this article. This pickme is really threatened by women enjoying a "coastal grandma" aesthetic on Tiktok. https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/04/dear-young-women-stop-trying-to-be-coastal-grandmothers-its-not-healthy/
Trad pickmes just parrot what misogynists say I hopes they’ll earn respect from men… by being a doormat.
Honestly women are too good at empathizing with others if it’s hard to distinguish tradthots and scrotes . You never see mtfs pass in text like these girls pass for basement neonazis.
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This is beyond pathetic. Are we going to get to the point where men will accuse us of 'lying' about DV and rape/battery because we "consented" to rough sex beforehand? How is that going to be disputed in a court of law if it becomes public discourse? Rape is already at an abysmal conviction rate because 'women can just lie about it when they've changed their mind'. Men are also getting away with literal murder en masse by claiming the 'rough sex' defence. It's just so blackpilling seeing women perpetuating our abuse and making it even harder for us to hold these fucked up men accountable. I really do feel like there is no hope for us at times.
You’d think tradthots would like the coastal grandma since its modest clothes mostly but unlike cottage core that tradthots fucking ruined, coastal grandma doesn’t have any focus on being trad. It’s like they’re triggered
over the use of the word grandma in it
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Marjorie rawlings, she was a young adult author author who had a "fascination" with young boys, almost all her protagonists were young boys, she claimed that her stories were written only for young boys and didn't care what adult male and female critics had to say about them and despite being an incredibly accomplished woman she relented that she couldn't have a boy of her own, apparently her fondness for young boys went back to when she was a child, the only times boys would even notice her was she would tell them adventure stories that she had made up
She'd likely be be a TIF if she was alive today, the borderline pedophilic obsession they have with male children and their idealized portrayal of how they behave checks out
Meh not a pick me or TIF just a wierdo
>the borderline pedophilic obsession they have with male children and their idealized portrayal of how they behave checks out
As opposed to what? the borderline pedofilic obsession that scrotes have of girls and obsession they have portraying them in media?
It is certainly a strange case if ALL her books are based around boys but not moidworthy/trannyish. As long as she's not tearing down other women I see no problem with an alternate female perspective on storytelling. From the look of the time period from that photo I'd take any and all storytelling lens and perspectives of women and girls you could get.
But she never wrote for kids, she specifically wrote just for boys
an adult woman does not need to be that obesseded with young boys that aren't her children and the fact she only began writing stories was to get boys to listen to her says a lot >Biographers have noted her longing for a male child through her writings, as far back as her first story in "The Reincarnation of Miss Hetty", and repeated throughout several works, letters, and characters, most notably in The Yearling. In fact, she stated that as a child she had a gift for telling stories, but that she demanded all her audiences be boys.
but it's the fact that this obsession stems from not getting attention from boys as a young girl. That's not a normal maternal related reaction. That's someone who still
wants the approval of boys.
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>>7800>Has scrotes obsessed with misogynist men as her "booty calls" >virtue signals about evil terfs
There has to be a term for this type of chick. The types that will associate with the most bottom of the barrel type men with regards to social justice but then wants to participate in the terf
witch hunt. Absolutely pathetic.
>>7788>an adult woman does not need to be that obesseded with young boys that aren't her children
Yikes. An adult woman can have a hobby obsessed with anything provided it's legal and safe. An adult woman doesn't have to be a broodmare for scrotes to write books about young boys.
She's a peculiar case indeed if she only wrote books about boys but fuck it, there are no concrete rules in writing and anyone is free to write about anyone and anything. Pedofilic men are far more an issue on the radar of human civilization than one incongruous adult female author.>>7788
Who cares? women aren't committing mass scale pedofilia like moids and/or encroaching on men's spaces to the same extent, fundamentally TIFs will never be as harmful because women aren't scrotes. TIFs will never be a tenth of the harm that TIMs are towards children, the opposite sex and young people.
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"gay trans men" are some of the biggest pickmes
People like this are honestly just fucking scary. this goes beyond standard pickme shit, this cuts straight to the degenerate moid chase. The fact that these people are even allowed to make speeches have a platform and slew their vitriolic shit makes me terrified for humanity.
There are actual human beings (women inclusive) that want misery and cruelty to thrive, that want children to be abused and are constantly complicit in it becoming a legal reality. I wish it was a fucking conspiracy.
What especially makes this stuff horrid is the current zeitgeist for women and how women are framed in all this. Because of MRAs (largely sad bitter old men rotting away), self entitled incels, and white supremacist fuck heads it feels like scrotes and scrote sympathizers are increasingly working to send human progress backwards for us all to suffer. They don't realize the damage they're doing because coom is more more important, there's no empathy because coom. I've seen this sentiment expressed here often and I honestly see no other conclusion; the tranny shit, the mass shootings terrorism it's all world shattering shit all over cooming. This is the pathetic extent of moids they will destroy civilisation itself if it means coom.
I've noticed this trend in the past six years or so roughly aligning to Trump shit but not necessarily. The more vitriolic, profiteering, cruelty and propaganda has come more recently and moids have reached breaking point seeing any happy female of any capacity simply shatters them. Examples are Joe Rogan becoming full retard, Jordan Petersons benzo coma insanity, Tates human trafficking shit, I could go on but you know there's countless moids trying to fuck the world up with their propaganda, especially for women but in the past 3 years it's ramped up to the extreme and no one is saying a fucking thing.
How often are the killings of women going to re-emerge in reports like the Idaho case with the older subhuman scrote and those college girls? When is the next terrorist attack on women going to occur? What even do we call terror attacks on women? Is every instance of harm ever terrorism due to the blatant propaganda and ideological bullshit spewed by moids? It boggles the mind how media could make light of this. How no one reports this as it is. How everyone collectively coddles men and gas lights women.
When are we going to call mass feminicide and male supremacy inspired terrorism like the Idaho stabbings what it fucking is?
Instead of sparing moids feelings parroting 'not all men' while trampling on the bodies of their female and even male victims
. (He killed the fucking bf of one of the girls too).
How long are we going to come up with elastic lies that it's only a select few psycho moids who do this when it's drilled into the minds of just about every male on the planet, it's always just a matter of time before they act it out.
Op of >>7800
the person's bio says she/her intersex. It could be a woman idk.
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technically not a pick me but whatever
The amount of female true crime youtubers I've seen refer to cases like Casey Anthony or Jodi Arias as "the most horrific case I've ever covered, this person is an actual monster" when their whole channel consists of talking about scrotes brutally raping, torturing and dismembering little girls and they treat those cases like it's a regular tuesday is sick. They should be more pinkpilled than anyone but somehow any woman committing a murder (even if it's revenge against an abusive
moid) is apparently worse than an actual rape + pedophilia + murder combo.
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Once I was at a party and someone dropped a cup of drink on the floor, most people started immediately getting paper towels etc but this one insufferable girl starts yelling “don’t worry I’ll clean it up!!! I’m not a feminist!!!”. I don’t think I’ve ever rolled my eyes so hard kek
abused women are not automatically feminist and often still can hate and deride other abuse victims
. Look at Johnny Depp supporters, many are abuse victims
but still shit on Amber.
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>>9490>it's funny because when men misgender me I just giggle and move on, but when women don't do what I want I feel rage and hatred towards them and seethe forever about it
Gotta hand it to her, her male LARP game is strong>>9492
Yeah KF women are sus and weird
Everytime im on LSA and there's a story about a young woman being killed from scrote violence, there's always a paragraph like,
>This is horrible and I hope whoever does this gets locked up forever, however we need to teach young women x, y and z. I would never do x, y and z."
It's like even in death a woman is getting lectured for what she COULD have done, when she should'nt be killed for simply going on a date, or being drunk & being taken advatange of. It never even comes off like caring or trying to help other women.
Then, I hate my culture because it upholds shitty whorish men, but will judge a woman harshly for sleeping with like 3 men they know of. The shit i've heard grown ass women say about their daughters, but their sons are already fathers/and/or have all kinds of girlfriends? It's a fucked up culture, and I hate it.