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No. 418500
thread #1
>>56468thread #2
>>199767thread #3
>>333126if you're still extremely unsure if you're bisexual, the questioning thread is likely a better fit. talk about your gender preferences, how you discovered you were bi, what's your type in men and women, how you feel in the community, any struggles you've had with bisexuality, etc.
No. 419080
Is anyone else itt celibate? I'm quite picky on top of the 'tism, so if I never get a gf I'll just stay permanently single. Hookups and casual non-monogamous situationships are a massive turn-off. Also obvious moidhate reasons aside, my only experience with a moid only reaffirmed how much I could never stand to be with one, even if he was somehow 100% my type so that's not an option either lmao.
>>418778My condolences nona
No. 419273
Stealing this from the lesbian thread: describe the last woman you had a crush on.
>huge, gentle, brown eyes, with a glimmer
>autistic (noticeably)
>raging weeb
>very pale skin, veins showing through
>somewhat prominent nose, very cute
>super long hair
>high pitched voice that's weirdly very soft and shrill at the same time
>thin, pretty lips, always in a smile
>feminine, modest style
>super narrow shoulders and pretty, delicate arms
>insanely pretty hands with thin fingers
>mix of curvy and pointy/bony in some areas, large chest
>wide hips, has the classic 50s silhouette if that makes sense
I feel like a retard because i can't convey her charm very well (cute this and cute that), but she looks like she stepped out of a 19th c. painting. And i love her.
No. 419512
>>419426same. must be because my type in men and women is the same so i have a really strong predilection for androgynous women. it used to be the opposite but now i'm pretty much only attracted to tall women with skinny androgynous builds and a very "guy-like" fashion sense (aka no fashion sense). it's not like i can't feel attracted to feminine curvy girls but the preference for girls who look like cute lanklets is very strong.
androgynous men don't do that much for me though because they age even worse than regular guys imo, i just like skinny and pretty guys.
>>419510there are many, they either think they're lesbians so they're in the lesbian threads or their preference for men is so strong that they don't bother leaving the male crush threads.
>>419511usually i think the opposite (that most women are just het) but the fact that rad-adjacent or somewhat manhating spaces always seem to be overflowing with bisexual women is interesting
No. 419529
>>419512>there are many, they either think they're lesbians so they're in the lesbian threads or their preference for men is so strong that they don't bother leaving the male crush threadsor they just use the female and male crushes separately but not specifically this thread. can't say I even blame them considering how full of bait it often is.
>usually i think the opposite (that most women are just het) but the fact that rad-adjacent or somewhat manhating spaces always seem to be overflowing with bisexual women is interestingYeah, I think a lot of normie women just internalize the male gaze and see the female body as sexual but only because patriarchal society in itself presents it as such, the female body itself as sexy but the woman herself as sexless outside the male gaze sexualising her. Meanwhile actual SSA women are more likely to actually be repulsed by male OSA, often after dealing with their own internalized homophobia and coming to terms that sharing female attraction with bihet moids does not put them on the same level. Then again, I've also seen the opposite phenomenon, bisexual and even lesbian women defensive of male gazey depictions of women in the libfem "men do it so women should be allowed to do it too!" way and claiming that criticism of pornification of women is "homophobia" because "some lesbians/bisexuals are into that as well!"
No. 419541
>>419539>Straight women are less specific about the sex they desire, they are less likely to have a strong disgust reaction to the female formI think this can be explained by female socialization tbh. The argument that female sexuality and male sexuality are different has always annoyed me because I know what it's like to go from one side to the other. I used to have a very nebulous or "fluid" sexuality like what you describe, until I started to actually consider what I'm into. A lot of women simply don't ever think about what they actually want.
>maybe because women are taught to have less boundaries in general?basically yeah
No. 419584
>>419273The last woman I had a crush on is a friend I never talk to anymore and I'm nervous that she might post on here because she was also an edgy weeb. I think she's actually bi and I still have weird dreams about kissing her sometimes
>>419511I could believe this because the majority of posts I see in normie bi women spaces like reddit are women who have been hetero married or otherwise exclusively partnered with men for years who think they
might be bi or are only interested in hooking up with women on the side but would've been 100% content living as straight
No. 419596
>>419510I think those who prefer/currently date men go to straight relationship threads, and those who prefer women to lesbian thread.
>>419539A lot of more moids have attraction/experimenting with other men than they admit. I used to study engineering and the stuff they did in student parties "as a joke bruh" was already pretty gay, probably a lot more happened behind closed doors.
No. 419605
>>419541Yeah, i was too categorical. I also have a more 'male' style of attraction (very visual, firm preferences etc.) so i know very well it's not set in stone. A lot of what you can call 'male' or 'female' sexuality overlaps anyways. But yes, i suspect female socialization has a lot to do with this. It's not just that women are taught to not have boundaries, but people have a created a world where women's boundaries feel weightless and are easily ignored, it probably deeply shapes many women's sexualities.
>>419590I don't trust self-reports kek. I believe women when they say they have a certain orientation, but i'm still aware of the fact they could lie (unless my gaydar is strongly activated). I know too many women who claim to be bi and display zero SSA (just a vague 'ummm women nice and pretty' sentiment) or bisexuals who LARP as lesbian in certain contexts to believe every statement at face value.
>>419550Kek that's true. But i meant that men have firmer limits when it comes to sex (overall). Some are driven to 'experimentation' by latent bisexuality or pornsickness but they have a harder time going against their 'true' orientation. Men often entertain the idea that gay sex is simpler and easier to obtain than heterosexual intercourse but they lament the fact that they can't force a change in their orientation (i've seen this both online and IRL). I also know many women who
did try lesbian sex when they knew very well they were completely het, it's strange
No. 419654
>>419605>But i meant that men have firmer limits when it comes to sex (overall)tbh i don't think this is accurate, currently at least. maybe at some point it was but nowadays men are getting memed into liking femboys and trannies to such an extent that it's kind of an epidemic. my sister uses tiktok a lot and she's always ranting about how every day she finds at least one video of a man saying he prefers femboys over real women or a comment section full of guys claiming that they'd take a femboy or a tim over an actual woman, and i believe them. this isn't something that i've seen happen to women.
it's pretty weird and it's also pretty recent. imo it can be attributed primarily to the whole trans thing and the pornification of pretty much everything, and social media/forums etc etc. this has proven to me that male sexuality might be a lot more malleable than female sexuality, and that the stereotype that women's sexuality is more flexible than men's might've been pure projection all along, or born from male-made media and the world at large telling women that they must pleasure men, and that being "bicurious" is one way to achieve that. or both. meanwhile, for men it seems like they're genuinely getting their sexualities twisted into this strange sort-of-gay limbo where they proudly proclaim that the best part about femboys is the dick.
overall, i don't like saying that sexualities can be molded or changed, but the current climate tells me men are either a lot more susceptible to getting so pornsick that they start craving feminine boys in dresses and tights (not news to anyone) or that the number of bisexual men is a lot higher than the number of bisexual women.
No. 419658
>>419654Women would be the same if there were legions of sexy crossdressing women for them to fangirl over, though. Takarazuka is a Japanese theater company that's primary thing is handsome crossdressing women, and normie married women, grandmas, office women, etc come out in droves to watch and fangirl
obsessively over these actresses. These women say the same thing that femboy loving moids say, but reversed– "crossdressing women are sexier than real men".
What to make of these facts on both sides, I don't know.
No. 419660
>>419658true. i was gonna argue that those women are never as horny about female crossdressers as men are about male crossdressers but that is 100% just a result of socialization lmao so i totally agree with you.
maybe the conclusion is just that the difference really isn't that big, if it even exists. or that both homosexual and heterosexual people are the minority, and the majority are actually a little bit bi (like kinsey 1s and 2s) but they almost never find out because they have no reason to question themselves.
No. 419672
>>419510The answer was already posted - most people gravitate to either the straight relationship threads or the lesbian thread. I admit I hang in the lesbian thread more because I don’t date and have never dated moids and am more attracted to women, so the posts I make are more relevant there.
>>419511I think it’s just that the default sexuality is bisexual, that makes the most sense. Male or female, not just for humans, for all animals. Everything else comes down to socialisation/conditioning, the fact that society’s notions on gender that aren’t based in biology play a role in attraction, which is why it can seem pretty malleable, or seemingly manifest overnight (like “discovering” you were bi through one exception and then suddenly you’re attracted to even regular people of your gender, or suddenly you’re not repulsed by their genitals). It’s been proven that humans are physiologically aroused by attractive people of the same gender regardless of their identified sexuality - the defining factor is the psychological executive decision: “would I have sex with them/COULD I imagine or navigate having sex with them?” There are only a few completely heterosexual and homosexual people, but when it’s more convenient to stick to one, why wouldn’t you? I also think that the direction of your sexuality is something that is cultivated, and grows when you pay attention to it.
No. 419678
>>419661having lurked in Japanese fanspaces for a few years, I’ve learned that while it’s culturally not acceptable for women to post “omfg fuck me pls” about celebrities like we do in the west, these women do genuinely seem extremely horny about it in their own coded subdued way. They just can’t say it outright because it’s considered insanely rude.
And I feel like it’s not a fair comparison to say that moids are the only ones going out and fucking cross dressers, because femboys’ whole thing is selling porn and crossdressing prostitutes are prostitutes, the whole thing is a sex thing so it’s easy for moids to engage sexually. The true reverse exists nowhere and even takarazuka, which I think is the closest comparison, is enveloped in a completely sanitized purity fan culture and the objects of lust are untouchable actresses that you couldn’t sleep with if you tried. But that doesn’t mean the fans don’t want to fuck them. You know?
No. 419711
>>419672>>419654>It’s been proven that humans are physiologically aroused (..) regardless of identityOnly women, really. Women display bisexual arousal across all sexual orientations (unlike men, who are clearly divided when it comes to arousal). Only lesbians seem to be more particular about their arousal, in a similar fashion to men. I think AYRT might be onto something. These kinsey 2 straight women are indeed fully straight psychologically and socially but there is a bisexual pattern of arousal in women and it might be interpreted as 'all straight women are bisexual on some level'. Now, arousal and actually enjoying sex or even having an interest for women are two different things. Sorry for sperging, but this is really interesting and relevant to the thread. The fact that women seem to experience arousal differently in relation to their orientation feels meaningful. Men are very malleable when it comes to retarded porn-induced fetishes but that's distinct from sexual orientation. Also i suspect that men's attraction to 'ambiguous' men is much, much more common than what we think. It's only starting to be uncovered due to exposure to troons
>>419687.. Why? There are plenty of bisexuals who relate to this (not clicking with bisexual 'culture' or whatever, preferring women), it's still not lesbianism.
No. 419789
>>419740I just don’t see how women who have had sex with men would be able to post in the lesbian thread but women who have only had experience with women can’t. I’m not arguing on what is or isn’t lesbianism.
You said that there are many bisexuals that relate, I disagree, even though there are some here that prefer women they still like men more than incidentally. You’re recognising that bisexuality is an extremely broad category and that both ends hardly relate to each other - they relate more to either straight women or gay women. So why do the bihet anons get to go to all the straight woman threads there without there being a fuss?
I still post here occasionally, but obviously I’m not gonna appear much in a thread where women are still talking about being attracted to a fucking/dating men, that’s just like the rest of this website
and to be frank I hate reading about it. If you truly want to segregate us, then make a bi thread for the kinsey 5s specifically, but that would be redundant and only for namesake because it would literally be identical to the lesbian thread.
I think it’s annoying when bi anons announce themselves in the lesbian thread and I don’t see why anyone who engages with men would want to post there but I don’t think my specific instance is harmful in the slightest.
No. 419805
>>419711>Only women display bisexual arousal across all sexual orientationsThat's kind of bleak tbh. I skimmed over a study on this
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8604855/ and it concluded that even lesbians experience arousal towards male sexual stimuli, although their response is stronger with female sexual stimuli but still, disappointing. Then I looked for a study on men's responses to sexual stimuli
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31399924/ and it concluded that they're more sex-specific and help predict men's sexual orientation better than women's responses.
I still maintain that socialization plays a role in this, maybe a huge role even, but as it stands, it really paints women as flaky and malleable. By itself it's a neutral finding but when you consider how there's a narrative that lesbians specifically can be turned, it becomes pretty uncomfortable, to me at least.
No. 419823
>>419820The relationships thread is basically a straight woman thread, anyone who wants gay relationship advice comes to one of the gay threads, and the rare time they do post there they get like no responses or ones that are half-assed compared to the ones about moids.
That being said, that’s not even my reason for using the lesbian thread. I notice how you didn’t respond to the more relevant rest of the reply.
No. 419890
>>419880umm nope nona ackshually it means you want them inside you because female sexuality is just about pleasing men and filling your empty holes!!
reminds me of another even more horrid pseudo-scientific "study" I found a long time ago that suggested that female SSA evolved specifically to attract males
No. 419961
>>419805AYRT, while i understand your reaction, i think it's very dependent on the way these results are obtained, like
>>419819 and others have pointed out. IIRC these studies often bring up how difficult it is to gauge the validity of the results when women seem to elude male-centric methods of measuring arousal. At the end of the day, we have different genitalia and are socialized very differently, so it's not too shocking that things like orientation are expressed differently. You could reverse the 'women are flimsy' conclusion too, and argue that male arousal is retarded in comparison
>>419883KEK
>>419878Maybe you are right about the fact that the lesbian thread is more appropriate for some topics. But i replied partly because i'm intrigued by the tendency of some bisexuals to hide, or flat out lie about their bisexuality if they hang in explicitly lesbian spaces or date women. A lot of the time it's white lies, downplaying OSA attraction or leaving out a het dating history. Not saying
you are lying about it
or that it's super harmful, but it reminded me of this
>If you truly want to segregate us, then make a bi thread for the kinsey 5s specifically, but that would be redundant and only for namesake because it would literally be identical to the lesbian thread.Ehhhhh, no. And you can post about being a mostly-SSA woman too, i don't see why the presence of kinsey 2s is such a hindrance. As annoying as it is to not relate at all to them, they aren't preventing you from talking about your experience.
No. 419970
>>419961>don't see why the presence of kinsey 2s is such a hindrance.It’s not, my point is that if anons want to partake in the discussions that happen on certain threads it’s not an issue, the same goes for lesbians that occasionally come here, I don’t see the problem with that? If anons want that to stop
then they can make a thread for mostly SSA women. If the other women are like me, the discussions would never roll around to men or male attraction so yeah, it would be the same.
No. 419981
>>419970we get it, words have no meanings, you are just like lesbians, everyone should use threads not for them because "why should anyone care", etc.
We understand you're retarded. You don't have to keep telling us, so stop sperging
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>>419970>>419981just kiss already
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>lesbian thread dead for the 2nd day in a row
>bisexual thread active for the 2nd day in a row
Really makes you think.(infight baiting)
No. 420011
>>420009Don't stare too much in the mirror,
nonnie.
No. 420065
>>420050Not like I want moids to do it, I wouldn’t mind degrading a bihet either
>>420058Based but they don’t want me
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is there anyone here who have experience with having people insinuate or even outright strongly believe/tell you to your face that they are convinced that you are a lesbian instead of bi? despite things like you having had a dating history with men, having had sex with men, so on so forth, it just doesn't seem to matter to these people?
like i don't want this to delve into another "omg please diagnose my sexuality" but this happens constantly with everyone around me and all it has given me now is sexual orientation OCD and paranoia that i'm living a lie no matter which label i choose. my whole life i felt confident in telling people i am bi, but after these experiences with people trying to convince me that i'm a lesbian, now it's giving me a deep seated confusion in my life.
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>>420216that makes so much sense thank u
>>420222ooooh this is so real and very fucking annoying. its scary how common that type of thinking goes unchecked these days, though, and makes me feel horrible for lesbians having to keep fighting against it.
>>420223ugh, i had an ex one time who was like OMG MAYBE YOU'RE PANSEXUAL LOL just because i think its awesome that gender non-conforming people exist and some looked attractive to me. like no, stupid, pretty sure i'm just being a regular bisexual.
if someone says they're bi, just believe them? it's not like you live inside their heads 24/7/365.
>>420230yea you're right
nonny, i think i'll un-come out to my parents the next time i see them.
>>420250i think ultimately female bisexuality is still a mystical thing that most people refuse to understand on a deeper level, so just contend to thinking every single one of us is either lying or so confused that we need to fuck every single person on earth in order to be extra sure. funny how straight women who are virgins and prob planning to keep it that way until they find a serious relationship/marriage are automatically believed to be het despite 0 experiences with moids lol.
>>420254this did something to my brain and i want to thank you so much for you breaking it down holy shit. its scary how seductive social contagion is and how… well, unpopular bisexuality is in general that everyone wants to explain it away with nebulous terms like comphet (the kind that says its okay to want a male celebrity's dick but because he's unattainable its okay), pansexuality, or split attraction models.
>>420270that makes sense also. i think especially in the cases where a bi woman doesn't fit in with biphobic stereotypes (doesn't want group sex, doesn't need a bf and a gf at once to feel complete, may gnc in some way, etc) then that means she's some other orientation, instead of just embracing the fact that bisexuality might be different from one person to the next with how it is expressed. if that makes sense.
thanks everyone. i think i'm finally at peace with myself and can let the confusion go.
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I have a sort of a crush on an online friend, I don't know what she looks like or how old she is (could be anything from 25 to 35) or her real name and I will probably never get to know her in person but I am in love. This is debilitating and I hate this why does it always happen? Also why does she not answer to me it's been a week I'm dying.
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>>422084Kek it was actually League of Legends. Felt like I was experiencing picrel irl.
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Just posting this here in case someone else finds it interesting. It's a survey report that focuses on bisexual people (about 44k of all respondents and there are reports on other groups as well) and I know the organization is pro-troon as most are nowadays but they are surprisingly only about 20% of the survey data. I'm not European though, so if there are any controversies about this org I don't know about them
https://www.ilga-europe.org/files/uploads/2023/08/FRA-Intersections-Report-Bisexuals.pdf No. 425629
>>425624Same and you're so real for this, nona.
I had a long distance gf and she did not deserve to be subjected to my absolute batshit insanity that would emerge in-person.
I think most people assume I'm primarily into women because of my presentation though.
No. 426342
>>426226Just be one of those polyamorous bis kek. I see them online all the time (and without fail the het pair
always leaves the other girl to be together).
No but seriously, it’s so bizarre. Bi women seem to be perfectly fine going their whole lives with just men but apparently it’s impossible to be with a woman and not think of men kek. Maybe you should just stick with men.
No. 426589
>>426226I am this anon. I'm dealing a bit better with those feelings. For the record I dont drool over other people in from of my long-term girl or rub it in her face. It's just difficult to be a bisexual woman with a woman when everyone around you is expecting you to jump ship and go straight at any time no matter how long you've been together. It's so weird to me people can understand the idea of celebrity crushes when it's straight women with some actor they like but for me it's a sign of the end times. Even you retards think bisexual people are insatiable and need to be poly or cheat as if people in general don't wonder about the grass on the other side.
>>426554Member of the jpop group Snow Man. Their upbeat positive music helps me so much through the hard days and I've been a fan of such music since my mid-teens.
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has anybody ever done the fabled bisexual threesome? is it awkward? ive always imagined it would be super awkward, like if you start doing something with the guy's gf then he would get all mad, but if you start doing something with the girl's bf she would get all mad. And then the girl wouldnt even be into you since she is straight. but also i have been kinda fantasizing about doing it with my friend and her moid
No. 427089
>>427080what? since when is it mandatory? it sounds like you are the spineless one that cant tell your scrote "no".
>>427081theyre both hot and have made jokes about it
No. 427096
>>427094I agree with you on principle about the retard you're responding to (imagine being fetishized by your straight friend's boyfriend and hearing her play along with it and being
flattered, fucking loser lmao) but
> You remind me of Hutu women who would hold down Tutsi women during the Rwandan genocide so their scrotes could rape her easilyThis bit is extreme and uncalled for kek
No. 427102
>>427094lmao seethe and mald. Im not raping anybody wtf. If anything the moid would be more like an accessory.
>>427098This will definitely just stay a fantasy since i dont want to cause any drama lmao. I was just curious to see if it had ever gone well for any bi nonas
No. 427109
>>427104idk sounds like your mad at the fantasy of the two of us pleasuring her together and enjoying ourselves. learn to say no to your moid and youll be much happier
>>427106what is a libfem
No. 427121
>>427117yes omg its so hot. I think thats part of what makes the fantasy so hot.
>>427119there is this lesbian nona who comes on here and calls us all sluts
but idk if she knows how hot it is lmao No. 427150
>>427142I mean… it’s not rape but it isn’t exactly the complete opposite. If a straight woman, straight man, and bisexual woman having sex it’s the scrote getting all the enjoyment here. Definitely not the straight woman.
>>427144Excuse me? I’m a bisexual woman. I’m allowed to be here and discuss things. “Baiters” isn’t everyone you disagree with.
No. 427156
>>427154?..Anon
>>427144 said that baiters lurk the bisexual thread. It’s not inappropriate to assume this anon meant lesbians considering the topic. Hence why I’m curious, if not them, who these supposed baiters are, should they exist.
No. 427163
>>427150how is the scrote the only one getting enjoyment out of it? Im getting a hot girl and hot guy, he is getting 2 girls, and she is getting pleasured by both of us. some of us are actually sexually attracted to women and dont just want to frolic in meadows holding hands and shit. having consentual sex with a woman is not exploiting her.
>>427151whenever this thread is active the lesbian thread is dead. makes you think
No. 427168
>>427163I’m saying that the anon who thinks it’s rapey isn’t exactly 100% wrong when the gf is a straight woman 99% of the time. Consensual sex or not, it’s true that most women go along with it to please their bf. She is putting on a performance for him. Personally I couldn’t enjoy that even if she was a “hot girl”. But you do you, like I said I think you should go for it and see if the assumptions are unfounded.
>makes you thinkKek that the bi thread is full of lesbians or the lesbian thread is full of bisexuals? I admit that I talk in the lesbian thread too.
No. 427421
I really don't think I can date moids again. Every time I've tried they've been at worst abusive and at best negligent. I just broke up with my bf a couple weeks ago, who was really quite sweet but I just always felt something was missing. This is such a common feeling when dating men but I know I'm sexually attracted to them. I wish febfem wasn't a terfy term (I'm crypto) because it so aptly describes how I want to continue dating from this point. Am I physically attracted to moids? Yes. Do they interest me in any profound way outside of being a piece of meat? No. Moid interests, likes, values just simply don't align with me. They bore me with their spergy interests and youtube videos. Living with one means you have to put up with his bizarre cleaning habits. I also really hate male feet, every time I have to bare witness to a moid's disgusting toes I want to dry retch.
I told myself before I started dating my recent ex that if it didn't work out I'd never go back to a man again and it definitely still holds true. It doesn't help that I have a lot of sexual trauma from the many times I've been sexually assaulted and raped by partners. But that doesn't even matter, because I just find moids wholly uninteresting and not worth my time.
It's taken until my late 20s to get here but I'm done, I'm over it. I love women, I prefer sex with women, and I love hearing women sperg about their interests because they're more often than not actually interesting. Even just a vulva is so much nicer than an ugly, shrivelled penis and balls. Penises look so pathetic and sad. I always hated sucking dick, it's not the least bit fun or enjoyable, just tedious and painful. It was a problem in multiple relationships because I outright refused to do it. They'd bemoan that they enjoy eating my pussy, but it's not like they were any good at it anyway.
I digress. I'm not sure what the point of this post was other than to vent my frustration, but have any other nonnies made the active choice to disengage from dating men because it's just not worth it? I've been here before, was here for years but that last moid was my final rodeo. I'm out, I got better thing to do.
No. 427473
>>427440Weird energy but ok
>>427449I have. I've dated both men and women throughout the years but it's just men that I have a gripe with. I'm just saying I'm over giving men a chance when I've only really enjoyed being with women.
No. 427700
>>427505AYRT and yeah I agree with
>>427511, I don't think it would be "punishing myself" because I've had so much sexual trauma from men that the reality of fucking them is hard enough to get through. I almost always end up in dead bedrooms with men because once the initial excitement of being with someone I love wears off the bad thoughts creep in and I find it really difficult to be intimate. I know that's what they always say so I do agree with you to a large extent. I have actually said it before and happily dated women for a while until COVID, and then I think I got so isolated and lonely I forgot about the darkness that creeps in that I mentioned above.
But knowing what I do now, and how no matter what I do this will always come up, I would be punishing myself by dating a man again. Which sucks, but I'm coming to terms with it. I'm happy to lust after famous men and men I can never be with, and that be the extent of it for me.
No. 427838
How do i stop falling for straight 'tomboys'. You know the type, 'one of the bros' type women, nerdy, kind of rude, completely straight. You can tell they're autistic/grew up with men and are not lesbian but i can't not crush on them. It's a curse. I have a friend like this. She once brought up how she seems to attract SSA women a lot, and i really get the women who pursued her kek
>>427421>He's sweet but…>They bore me with their youtube videos. Living with one means you have to put up with his bizarre cleaning habits. I also really hate male feet, every time I have to bare witness to a moid's disgusting toes I want to dry retch. Kek are you me. I don't think repressing anything is right. Just date moids you fancy and drop them if the shoe doesn't fit. I would hate to be the 'at least she's not male' partner of a woman, so i don't approach women with this in mind even if i relate to your dissatisfaction with men. Or you can not date anyone unless you're deeply in love with them. I find that the issue with OSA dating is that it almost always is the easy way out, it feels 'safe' because the stakes are really low. Waiting for actual infatuation might be better
No. 428136
>>427896not het, i'm homosexual, and i don't understand why you got redtexted when it's true kek. but anyway, i have no idea why i got taken in bad faith when all i was expressing was that it isn't realistic to declare you're giving up on a group of people who you're attracted to. if it works out that's great, it just rarely, if ever, does. like
>>427838 said, it makes more sense to date someone you're actually into and wait for attraction to happen naturally.
>>427904i actually don't even know if trauma ever has any part of it, i think it's purely about how much attraction you experience to a group. if the degeneracy of men truly pushed women away from dating them, not a single man on planet earth would have a girlfriend, and yet so many do. lots of radfems even have boyfriends.
No. 428274
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What's your guys coming out story?
I don't really consider mine to be a coming out, but one day I just told my grandma "I have a girlfriend. Yes, I like men too.". I guess because the only person who matters to me really is my grandma and I already knew that she didn't care about people being gay, so it really wasn't some huge, emotional, scary ordeal for me. Although she does question me on if I actually like men since I've only been with women kek.
No. 428385
>>428351Damn, not getting eaten out at all sounds so depressing, especially if you’re the one only giving. I think that being selfish is not cute at all.
I hope you can get eaten out as much as possible in your next relationship nona
No. 428491
>>428432then why did you get mad at
>>428164?
No. 428859
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I really missed this thread
No. 428917
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>>428859Same. I wish I could post more to make it more active but my life is boring and I don't do anything.
No. 429779
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As a britbong one of my types is whatever women like picrel grow up to be after age 25. Straight, probably.
No. 429960
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tfw no gf, bf, or friend
>>429779as a redblooded american i have never seen a girl like this
>>428917i would post more but then people irl would knw who i am
No. 430605
>>430419I also have crush on a coworker. She is single but seems very straight. I get so jealous when moids simp at her and even that she has a closer female friend at the office (this other woman has a boyfriend.)
>>430435Why? In the best case you become a toy while she loves her man, in the worst case you get your ass beaten by psycho scrote.
No. 431557
My fellow bi nonas, I have a few questions for you:
How do you flirt, if you like femmes and are a femme?
In my life I pulled two girls by being weird (I think we had some sort of shared autism) and well moids are moids so it's easy, but how do you actually flirt with femmes? If you've been with femme girls (my two gfs were a butch and a normal girl, in between), how?
For some reason, since I look pretty femme myself, I think that other girls automatically assume I'm straight and maybe find my mannerism weird, if I flirt with them? idk I have this fear, my last relationship, the one with the butch, made me realize that I really like another vibe of girls and not the "one of the boys" kind but I find myself pretty in trouble
No. 431565
>>431557As a femme4femme lesbian, ngl it’s pretty hard! And this is coming from the fact that a majority of lesbians nowadays are IMHO f4f too (tiktok and tumblr has turned half of an entire generation of young women queer and most of them are feminine).
A lot of it has to do with societal culture I feel. Femmes or feminine women in general has always played the role of the pursued, so we’re usually conditioned to let the other more masculine party take the first move. When we’re forced to take the first move ourselves we usually struggle (or at least I do).
What my ex did (and what I’m trying to do from now on) was establish a connection before the first conversation. She was attracted to me and she kept constantly looking at me while waiting for me to return eye contact, and whenever I did she smiled then looked away (we met in the college library). Since I also found her attractive I started also constantly looking back at her and she told me “that was when I knew I could try ask you out” so she came over to my table and asked if she could sit next to me. And then we started talking and everything was history.
Idk if there’s any other context IRL where you can do the same as she did (I’m struggling to find a gf rn kek) but establishing that first connection is vital I guess. My ex told me that usually if a feminine girl is straight or not interested they would act weirded out or ignore your smile the first time, and that’s you cue to not do it again unless you wanna come off as a creepy weirdo.
If all these seem like too much work then there’s always the local lesbian bar and HER though…
No. 431601
>>431599What the fuck is this even
I am not going to google another ridiculous label
Can you people just fuck and not overanalyze it
Jeezus
No. 431628
>>431627I find both macro and micro labels (wut?) idiotic
Just fuck, it ain't complicated, all of your ancestors way back to LUCA did it
No. 431930
>>431599I relate, i get it, it feels safer than risking re-traumatizing contact. I've maintained this with men aswell.
You'll get tired eventually, after years and years of this. You'll start resenting the other for allowing this to continue, and resent yourself for the same reason. You can enjoy reciprocity in sex, it's not impossible. Calling yourself a 'service top' like it's part of your identity contributes to the problem. Honestly any sex that isn't mutual (at least in pleasure, i get that some people lean towards agression or passivity) sucks and stifles your soul. Maybe you're just a giver, maybe you prefer being in control, but not being able to handle sexual contact at all is a serious issue. I also think that falling back on this label can be a way to cope for a very common issue (men not giving us pleasure out of egoism or else). You can take it slow. I didn't enjoy it (like had zero sensation) at first but it was nice when it worked. Finding what kind of foreplay you like really helps. Sorry for being preachy kek i just hope you move past this nona
No. 432174
>>428274never came out to anyone but my exes and friends. most of my friends were gay anyways so it wasn't a big deal.
I'll never come out to my family though unless I fall in love with a woman.
No. 432243
>>431565To be fair, women will smile at you just be friendly, so it's hard to know whether or not they're reciprocating on that level. But doing that myself feels very awkward so I guess it's over
>>431579Rude
No. 432335
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>>431240I'm in the same boat as you, nonna. I'm in my late 20s, have been out since I was a teenager, and the bi cycle does happen for some of us. And this shit come out of nowhere for me at least, like it's not related to any negative experience with either sex. For about 4 years I completely forgot that men even exist and was basically living as a homosexual. But this year I realized that I was becoming more and more interested in men than in women. Before my bi cycle switched to men, I was even thinking about finding a woman to settle down with and now I have to change my plans because I'm not interested in dating women atm.
>It's really difficult to live this way, I can't believe I have to do this the rest of my life.I agree with you, nonna. Did you switched to men or women? The thing I hate the most about the bi cycle is that I could never settle with a man because men age like shit and I'm a very sexual person, I would never be able to have sex with a man who doesn't have the pretty man look and very long hair anymore. Gosh, I hate men for that, why can't they keep the young Sebastian Bach or Ian Astbury look for longer kek? For now I think I'm going to take advantage of the fact that I look 10 years younger and date younger men who are STILL cute and hopefully the bi cycle will go back to women in a while, sigh. I wish there was actually a way to control it or even pick a fucking side, because of this shit I feel like I'm actually not meant for having a forever partner, it sucks. Anyway, I wish you the best nonna, hopefully you'll find a way to deal with it and get a romantic/sexual life that makes you satisfied and happy. Have my virtual hug, nonna.
No. 432679
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>>432218Not really an 'in another life' story but I still think of the girl who was my first crush, although I fully realised the fact only years after the matter.
>be me>11 years old>start a new hobby>going to the hobby place by tram>a girl comes in>I am mesmerized>don't want to stare at her, decide to look at her through the window's reflection>miraculously she comes to the same hobby group>become practically frozen in place every time she comes near me, completely unable to speak to her>she's so cool and smells amazing, if only we could be together everything would be perfect and the angels would sing>still don't realize it's a crush though>she has a special type of fragrance>infer it must be lip gloss (the only scented thing we had at that age)>search for a similar lip gloss at every store, finally find one>it's coconut (I hate coconut)>immediately buy>quit the hobby after a year>keep the lip gloss for the next decade but never use it, only open it occasionally to sniff it like a creepI was so fucking clueless kek
No. 432834
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Nonnas, what are your thoughts on this? Personally I always find it a bit disappointing that any bi awareness focuses on het relationships, but I guess it makes sense if the majority of bi people prefer the opposite sex
No. 432903
>>432834Annoying that people would rather focus on het-leaning and functionally straight bisexuals instead of bi people who are actually interested in or prefer same-sex but they're probably the majority so what is there to do about it
Like yeah obviously you're still bi but I don't really care or find you relatable so whatever
No. 432914
>>432834Who cares, it's just het passing women who are finding more things to feel oppressed about so they can feel more included in the qWuEeR community. Obviously, you're still bi at the end of the day but if you don't even have a gf to show for it then what is the point of larping as an oppressed qweer kek.
>>432851The only reason why bi or gay men don't have to worry about proving themselves bi or gay enough is because for men, being gay is socially unacceptable so if a man says he's gay then he means it and isn't doing it for attention. You don't have this culture of moids desperate to feel like a special snowflake and pretending to be gay like most women do. It's not an "omg this is sexism!!1" issue, it's that fakebians and attentionwhoring bisluts who pretend to be gay for their nigels ruined it for everyone.
No. 432925
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>>432914>You don't have this culture of moids desperate to feel like a special snowflake and pretending to be gay like most women dolul there are definitely some out there but they only get attention from other equally retarded men and enby spicy straight women
or they go full troon and become prison gay
No. 433318
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>>432925Kek you were right to spoiler that anon, although tbh I hardly ever see moids like that in the wild. Usually they're confined to the dating apps on my phone
No. 433381
>>432914I just can't take seriously anyone who uses words like bisluts. Okay, that’s how you feel about bisexual women, that we all must be straight and sex-crazed. Do you hear yourself moid-chan?
You claim that kweer is not an identity to you, yet you moan and whine about bisexual people not dating (you) kek. Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes, go back to your own thread.
No. 433533
>>433526It's kind of funny but it's more annoying than anything
>y-you're all hypersexual BPD gigawhores!!1as if a good chunk of this thread wouldn't be mundane autists and neet-chans
No. 434167
>>434150Don't feel guilty, I love big boobies too. It's such a normal and natural attraction there's nothing to be ashamed or guilty about.
Getting really aroused by big breasts on TV in middle school was when I realized I was bisexual.
No. 434319
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>>432834technically they are still bi but i don't understand the obsession with proving it to everyone. if you yourself know you're bi why does it matter if someone thinks you aren't? just date your moid and be happy
No. 434323
>>434319It's because too many people nowadays have zero personality but a need for acknowledgement and brownie points. Bis in het relationship look just like any other het couple, meaning that they can't claim oppression or that they're totally different than they yucky hets.
Of course, not every bi person is like that, but those who NEED you to know they're BI and not HET while being in a het relationship definitely long to be celebrated for their bravery.
No. 434382
>>432834This is true just like you can be a kissless virgin and still be hetero/homo/bi and not asexual
That said it's still very strange
No. 434388
>>434387Mainly the ones who are into het relationships but who want to act oppressed, the DL men who cheat on their wives with men and give them HIV, the fakebians who call themselves lesbians but still fuck men and the women who perpetually date men and just use women for a quick fuck.
I wish there was a decent online bi community kek, who act normal and don’t make their sexuality their whole life.
No. 434595
I'm in my first relationship ever and it's been nice since the past 8ish months. But there's something that keeps nagging me, she's told her close friends about me, and anyone she's out to, she's mentioned me to them. However, I haven't told anyone about her, only as a friend, I'm not out to anyone in my life, they are all very religious and I'll get ostracized or worse, but at the same time, it all feels so unfair to her, she talks about me to her friends, I've met a couple too, whereas no one in my life knows about her. She was out to her friends way before we met, as she's been with women before too and she's 4 years older than me. She's never brought this up except once she said something like it'd be nice if I told my friends about her, I feel like I'm doing her wrong somehow. Maybe we should call it off if I'm not even ready to proudly be with her so she can be with someone who is? But I want to be with her.
No. 434596
>>434568Ignore the baiting retard. Yes, I sometimes get this feeling too, and I sometimes fantasize about having a dick. I'd never want to actually be a man, but something about being bi is just fucking with me on a psychological level, like my brain can't process it. I feel like I often act like a weird incel moid towards other women, I'm too shy to approach them, I watch them from a distance or simp them, and I get mad when they get together with an ugly moid instead of me (they're straight). My attraction to men is also very fringe and strange, it's definitely there but it comes with a need to dominate them. If a man is much larger than me physically, I can't be attracted to him, I feel disgusted if he comes too close. I also hate being penetrated. And no, I've never considered trooning out because I'm not retarded.
No. 434639
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I didn’t fall for a woman until relatively late in my life, but I was instantly 100000000000000x more into her than anyone I ever was before (it changed my life). But she’s straight, with an ugly man, much older than me, and even if it wasn’t for all that it would never have been possible anyway. I’ve been pining so painfully for so long and it’s not fading no matter how hard I try to get over her because I don’t have any interest whatsoever in anyone who isn’t her even when I try to force it. I dream about her regularly when I’ve tried to forget about her, and fantasize about being her husband and cry real tears that I can’t hold her. I feel like I’m under a curse that I’ll never break no matter how hard I try. It’s so, so, so much harder being in love with a woman than a man, I had no idea. It’s honestly ruining my life and yet I can’t stop it. My heart aches all the time.
I never used to understand people who said dramatic things like this about love, like scrotes who would get obsessed with a woman and ruin their whole lives pining over her, and I feel pathetic and disappointed in myself but am helpless to change it.
No. 434681
>>432834They're as bisexual as a nun or an incel is most likely straight.
I don't even understand why this is even an argument or an issue. Maybe it's because i'm from a conservative country but you're just not expected to engage in a relationship in the first place (and if you do no sex obvi and it's supposed to be chastise) , does that make you asexual until you get married?
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>>433943nonnie I've been doing that as well but with these two characters from ER, kek. I don't really imagine myself having a threesome, but just being there as some sort of apparition watching these two go to town kek. I've been feeling pretty sexually/romantically detached lately so maybe that's part of why I'm not really thinking of myself here.
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We should just rename these threads to Pornsick General(infight bait)
No. 435052
>>435019About two months, I am in my 30s and she’s late 20s.
She says she needs a long time of knowing someone before having sex and has been hinting at wanting to do the deed this last week.
Afaik she’s not having sex with these quick dates either but to be fair it’s more the idea she’s entertaining men that upsets me so much.
No. 435063
I've always knew since I was an early teen I was bisexual I was out to my friends too (fuck my family though they are extremely homophobic and borderline fascists). However, due to also being autistic and having a repressed sexuality due to how conservative my family was, I also feel like I had only but a skewed image of what I'm into, in general, and only now in my mid 20's I feel more clarity about it. Due to being a sperg I was rejected a lot so I would always follow along if a man showed interest in me, thinking that I should grab the chance after being rejected so much. I remember deliberately making myself liking them, only for them to treat me like shit afterwards and me strangely falling apart even though I wasn't that much into them physically nor did I consider them great people. Even if I knew I was bisexual, and I would always say it to family and partners, I never made any move on a woman. In retrospect, I feel like I didn't "allow" it to myself, because I just went with the flow of the men who showed interest and sincerely felt like no woman would be dumb enough to go for someone like me. Being a sperg also means Im a bit more male socialized due to my hobbies and it's a bit harder to connect with fellow girls, even if I want to (I have many female friends though but romance is a bit morea advanced in its nature). All in all, my 4 year relationship is about to end, and throughout the half of it I realized that Im extremely sexually repressed, and want to finally experience and enjoy my attraction to women, to finally allow myself to be honest with myself first and foremost. I just feel so dumb for allowing this for so long but I'm also very insecure I will just come across as someone who's dissapointed with men and therefore are using bi or lesbians for validation.
No. 435439
I work at a restaurant and this customer (female) asked for my number. She was out for some drinks with friends and wanted to grab a drink with me after my shift and I figured why not. I broke up with my bf a couple months ago so I'm not particularly ready to date yet but she was so pretty and also very normie looking. I am not normie looking, but I'm also not super alternative looking either, somewhere in between.
When we were out for drinks she disclosed she was in an open relationship and the her bf was with her earlier, and that he's kind and she's pretty happy with him. I felt pretty disheartened even though I didn't want something serious, but we ended up getting drunk and having sex anyway kek.
Reflecting on it the day after, maybe this is what I need? I've already sworn off dating men again, it's never a satisfying experience for me, but having a casual fwb situation with someone I know isn't going to get insanely attached to me might be best.
I mention she's normie looking because thank fuck. The lgb dating scene is so full of gendies and just all round horribly annoying people and it was so refreshing to talk to a woman that just isn't a complete sperg. We were waiting in line at a bar and I saw this TiM I know and I waved, and after we got drinks the girl I was with says "who was he?" to which I had to tell her he was trans and that he's nice, but I don't really fw trans stuff as a whole. And thank fuck she agreed with me, and we talked about it for a bit before he came and sat down near us, kek.
The only thing that bothers me about this is that she seems like the kind of woman for me, and if it becomes an ongoing thing I'm worried I might get attached. It's so rare to find a terfy, normie woman who's funny and interesting.
I also tried using a strap on for the first time and it was so fun kek
No. 435664
>>435599Theoretically I would but I dont fuck anyone, I am now a dedicated waifufag and stopped pining over hypothetical real life people
>>435481>autismsame
>men disgust me unless I can treat them brutallybased and same, I wouldn't be able to tolerate a man unless he was a 8/10+ and docile enough to let me DV him and even then I do not experience enough attraction to moids
No. 435732
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Should female bi just date each other? Experiences dating bi4bi vs bi4lesbian?
I was seeing a lesbian but we had different ideas about what types of women are attractive, she seems to think wanting fem4fem is "male gaze" and something I can "get over"
No, I'm not into masc women and since coming out I don't want to be perceived as masculine anymore. I want to be a hot chick. I know what I'm attracted TO and so want to look like that. People act like not being attracted to people with bad haircuts is oppressive. And she was initially really pushy with my boundaries in sex.
I feel like I don't fit in with the qweer crowd because I don't worship ugliness. But I don't want someone who acts straight either. Just for fucks sake put on some moisturizer once in your life and try exercising more.
I'm totally over men at this point and the thought of them disgusts me, but I also can't get over this thought that being perceived as a lesbian must mean I'm unattractive.
No. 435774
>>435768To me, masculinity is unattractive on both sexes.
And acting like that's something that can be "changed" is sort of like conversion therapy. She was acting like if I hung out with the Qweer crowd long enough I would "evolve" into being more masc/masc attracted
No. 435783
>>435732As
>>435769 said, it's more of an individual woman thing than a bi vs lesbian thing. There's highly feminine lesbians and masculine bi women, after all. That being said, presentation is skewed across sexualities, with lesbian culture favoring masculinity a lot more than bi and straight women, to the point where it's an expectation that a lesbian will be masculine in some way (unless she's hyperfeminine as a performance of sorts, maybe), and lesbians themselves often have that expectation. IME, for some reason, bi women tend to be a lot more varied in presentation and often don't have that expectation of masculinity towards other women or see it as some sort of ideal. But of course, that still boils down to the individual, and that's not even touching on the subject of "bi culture" kek
No. 435984
>>435439>she is in an open relationship >I'm afraid of getting attached Instant no
Why would you even trust a total stranger to be telling the truth, "open relationship" is 9/10 times a code for "I'm cheating, are you ok with that or gullible enough to believe me"
No. 436773
>>436771I feel like you’re mocking me. This really isn’t funny to me. I am so tired of feeling like I have no control over what my brain decides randomly to be attracted to. It’s always out of left field.
>be into girls as a teen, suddenly switch to liking short hunky men>be into short hunks for years, suddenly switch to exclusively liking tall thin women>emerge from 2 year long tall thin women phase to liking “bear” type dudesI’m just sick of it and want it to stop. I’m done. I don’t want to live this way anymore. It was bad enough before but liking this type of man is so disgusting to me it makes me truly hate myself.
No. 436778
>>436773is this
triggered by people you know in real life or tv characters or something? I just don't really understand why bicycle posters talk like they're being held prisoner and dragged around on a leash by their own pussy but it makes perfect sense if you had a crush on a hairy fat guy.
No. 436874
>>436828No and never have been
>>436843This theory doesn’t make sense to me since my cycles last years, and afaik there’s no hormone cycles that long.
>>436795People talk about this in places that are not this thread, there’s plenty of threads on Reddit for example from both men and women, so idk why you are so set on accusing anyone who talks about it as trolling you personally. That is dumb.
No. 437801
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there is a hot girl at my gym lmao should i shoot my shot or should i just keep watching her through the mirror like a creep? she looks gay and she is super hot and out of my league. she looks like if snow white was a basketball player. the face she makes when she is focused on her lifts is cute. if she is straight and i shoot my shot then i would be so emarrassed i would swallow myself into a void and cease to exist, but if she is gay then she would probably reject me for being ugly and short. so its really a lose-lose situation. i think i saw her looking at me but that was probably because i was staring at her first. also once she learns that i am a dirty disgusting bisexual whore she would start casting stones at me. i lift more than her though
No. 438643
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>>437912>>438116fuck i should have done this last time i saw her. now my work schedule changed and ill never see her again. she was in my dreams. oh well
No. 438972
>>438930This, they are actual schizos who escaped their containment lel
Saw that niche side of tumblr before and they are genuinely psychosis-tier mentally ill and just like having a scapegoat, either that or painfully edgy retards overcompensating for their shit life. In both cases the seethe for just existing is pretty incredible.
No. 440232
>>439760Well, most men irl are hideous, nonna, so I dont find it weird that you prefer fictional men. Since you posted here in the bi thread, I'll assume you like women, so maybe you're more into androgynous/feminine or simply pretty men that have some female traits? Have you tried looking at pics/videos of maybe guys in visual kei bands, goth guys, hair metal hotties like sebastian bach, idk? (Of course that doesn't help with the fact that it's very difficult to find men like that irl, even in alt circles) I kid you not when I say that it's not normal how fugly men are nowadays. How men have become so obese, bald, poorly dressed, obsessed with disgusting beards, and so socially inept? Not to mention how they have no personalities besides vidya, porn, hating women online, and complaining about being anxious and depressed. Also, a lot of men in their 20s look late 30s already kek. No wonder so many women who have just normal attraction to men are starting to call themselves asexual or dating their 2D husbandos. But the good news for us nonna is that we're bisexual. We can just date women. I'm late 20s but when I was younger I used to think I was a kinsey 5 bi or something like that because I never felt attracted to any man I met irl, only women. But nope, I'm a solid kinsey 3, it's just that men are ugly, so I was naturally only getting into relationships with women because so many women are fucking attractive kek
No. 440403
>>440286For me also, and it has always been this way, even before I understood what sexuality even was.
>>440380>GNC for GNCSame.
No. 440634
>>440588I never liked any masculine man in my life, I find them beyond ugly and disgusting. When I talk about feminine men, I mean very long hair, shaved faces, soft/delicate facial features (basically a long-haired pretty boy), thin (I don't like muscles or fat), and please dress well. When I was a teen, I was into visual kei guys, but in my 20s I started to prefer more natural men like Eric Martin, Sebastian Bach or Axl Rose (when they were young of course kek). I've been exclusively into feminine men since always and much before I realised wtf a troon is, so I don't let troons affect my love for feminine men. And besides, 99,9% of troons are just ugly bald and obese incels kek they're not feminine/pretty men at all
No. 440641
>>440588For me it's similar to what other anons have described (men with 'soft' features, men who are 'pretty' and thin rather than muscular). Although nowadays I'm not really attracted to any cultural stereotypes of femininity in men such as long hair or feminine clothing, but rather what attracts me in men is a kind of fragility or delicate appearance. I don't know a better way to describe it. This also manifests in the fact that I'm exclusively into manlets and can't be attracted to men who are taller than me. This type of men are obviously very rare to begin with, and they tend to suffer from retarded complexes which makes them undateable as a GNC woman. Sad, but I can't help it.
>>440636>a woman that looks like a pretty manAre you me? This is exactly what I thought today when I met this decent-looking guy. If only he were a woman…
No. 440811
>>440793Reminds me
>be 28>download Her app>only get likes from 18-22 year olds (and occasional troon)>nope But kinda kek'd at how some dirty moids would give their left testicle to be in same position.
No. 440858
I'm fairly new to dating women irl. How do I let go of this insecurity? of this idea of acting uninterested enough to seem attractive/not too desperate. ill just give you an example here
>recently met hot girl when bar hopping, part of a larger group going clubbing
>we dance together and end up macking all night
>she says she wants to take me on a date when we're both sober
>"are you free this weekend anon?"
>"no but next weekend"
>"i want to fuck you so bad anon"
>shy, say no.
was this flirting or literal quickie-in-the-club-bathroom-right-now request? anyway,
>night ends, she walks me home
>we talk about making plans for a date
>we swapped instagram handles earlier in the night, by next day she hasn't accepted my request
>text her and see if she got home okay
>"I did!! how are you?"
>"I'm well, how are you!"
First off, did I fumble? I wanted to chat for a bit before setting a date to see her but I think I may have come across too dry. Secondly and the main point of my post, I usually know how to go about this with guys: a.) would never hookup with a guy at the club b.) if i did, I'd never make plans to see him again c.) if i did, and he didn't accept my follow request/text me back in a timely manner I know he's not that interested in me and I move on. But with a girl? I don't think it's a 1:1 comparison, maybe I just need to trial and error this? I want to be bold and double text her to confirm a date instead of fucking around texting, but I don't know. What do you think?
No. 440876
>>440859It's really not. Nona rejected the other girl multiple times in a row so the other girl has switched into good humored friendliness to show she isn't taking it personally, but she's also deliberately pulling back from being overly flirty and assertive to show the ball is now in anon's court.
>>440858I wasn't there so I can't tell if your responses were more like "no, I'm not interested in dating/fucking you" or more like "I'm interested but we need to take it more slowly than this," but it's definitely your turn to make a move if you're interested.
No. 440902
>>440895When I was 10 I had somehow found a video of a naked woman bouncing on an exercise ball that had a dildo attached to it, and I kept going back and looking at more naked women videos for weeks trying to find that one, but then I learned from a friend that browser history was a thing and it was the family computer so I panicked and not knowing you can clear browser history, I decided I had to destroy the computer.
So one day when my family was leaving for some errand I excused myself back out of the car saying I was going to get a drink of water, and then I went back inside and poured a full glass of water all over the laptop keyboard, then went back outside and pretended to be panicked from “accidentally” spilling water on the computer (that was no where even near the kitchen). Anyway my parents then comforted me by reassuring me they could fix it, and they wound up putting the open laptop in a tray of rice in front of a fan in the basement for the next week and the entire time I was praying that it wouldn’t work.
Looking back I’m really wondering what my parents thought was going on. It seems unbelievable to me that my little kid lying skills were at all believable. I am so grateful they never have never mentioned this because it’s so embarrassing kekkkkkk
No. 441015
Do bisexuals think love between women somehow cant go as deep as love between a man and a woman?
Why is this BS excuse so popular whenever bisexuals try to break up with their lesbian gfs?
>>440974 I’ve heard this used so many times now (both personally and from friends).
No. 441033
>>441018>>441030Really? I rarely hear moids complaining about their bi gfs leaving them because “my gf cant love me as much as she can love a woman” though. But the other way around is so fucking common it’s unreal.
Especially when they bring up biological excuses that women cant naturally help with like “you cant get me pregnant and share a child with me” or “you cant fuck me as intimately as a penis can”.
Reasons like these are so gender degrading yet so commonly used; I personally know a lesbian that trooned out because of they feel inadequate about this.
No. 441058
>>441033If I ever heard such a thing I would immediately fall out of love with the asshole and be glad she’s showing her true colors eventually.
This shit is so disgusting to me. I sometimes get why some lesbians hate us bisexuals even if it hurts me.
No. 441059
>>441015I feel it's the reverse and most bi women i know agree, but some of them still value OSA relationships more. They might say 'oh love between women is much deeper, i was going insane for her' but then state they don't see themselves marrying a woman, only a man. They ultimately want to conform more than anything else (or they're not
that into women kek).
>Why is this BS excuse so popularSo many women can't stand to be seen as mean and can't afford to be honest because they want to be agreeable at all costs. They can't say 'i value social status and acceptance more than i do our relationship' so they have to come up with weird lies that are ironically more hurtful
No. 441074
>>440894When I was in middle school, I could not keep my hands off my female friends. My low point was
shoving my nose into a girls armpit while sitting next to her. If you were victimised by creepy dyke girls like me as a child, I apologise on their behalf.
No. 441077
>>441033It’s honestly due to these retards that I don’t blame lesbian women who are strictly les4les or the shitty reputation of “fucking women and dating men”.
It’s not something uncommon.
No. 441148
>>441086On this topic, when I was young (5-6 years old), my older cousin (by 3 years) would often do sleepovers in my house because my aunt (her mom) was a single mother who had to work night shifts.
Whenever we played house, she would often try to kiss me and grope my chest. Sometimes during bedtime even forced me to strip and cuddle with her to sleep while naked. I wasn’t really traumatized by it tbh because I always saw it as innocent play-pretend.
It didn’t take me till I was older to realize that we were basically molesting each other, and much, much older to connect the fact that she was probably just emulating what she saw at home, because her mother went through a slew of different boyfriends during that time whom she brings back to their tiny apartment.
Me and my cousin never spoke about this to anyone or each other till this day, I think she likes to pretend it never happened and I kinda understand that. I do hope she opens up to me about this one day so we can talk it out and process what she was going thru back then though.
No. 441361
>>441086>I always got made to be the “daddy” when we played house kekJust remembered my friend always wanted to play that she is a woman and I am a man who tries to hit on her. And she rejects me every time. She always said I would get to be the girl next time but never happened.
But nice that there are other anons whose discovery of being bi was not something wholesome like crushing on a girl first time. For me:
>look at boy butt>get funny feelings downstairs, hard to look away>ok I guess I hit puberty>look at girl butt and boobs>get same feelings>oh noMy relatives and school mates were homophobic so was I horrified at first.
No. 441486
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>how i feel when i get called a bislut despite having a body count of 6 and not fucking any men until i was nearly 27
No. 441598
>>441594> i still fantasize about women and would love to share my boyfriend's cock with another woman.Retards like you flock all female (not anymore kek, women friendly) dating apps and harass lesbians and bi women. You’re not even truthful with it, you just waste people’s time and then , if you have the courtesy, drop it on text or worse during a date
>me and my bfFUCK OFF
No. 441603
>>441598That’s not my post. Also, anon isn’t doing any of that. You understand there are ethical ways to find threesome partners too, right?
>>441599Literally it’s just me including both sexes I’m attracted to in one fantasy, one is my fantasy gf, one is a fantasy plaything, that is not “centering men” that’s just having a sexual fantasy that involves one, which sends me straight to hell apparently. I will remind you we are in the Bisexual thread right now, meaning all of us are attracted to men. But including one in a sexual fantasy is a crime? Kek okay sure anon.
No. 441606
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>Returning every day to whine about 'bishits'
Bi women just live rent free in your head huh?
No. 441620
>>441589Okay on paper (especially if the guy is used instead of catered to), unfeasible irl because exposing my intimacy with another woman to a man is unthinkable. It's like accidental voyeurism tropes in fics, the concept is hot but it'd be horrifying if it happened in real life.
>>441616It maintains a kind of proximity with SSA women. Hatred is closer to love than indifference. If they truly disregarded 'bishits' they would ignore us and avoid us all the time, like regular les4les women. Constantly sperging about bisexuals is erotically charged for them
No. 441634
>>441632wow its like you enjoy being angry and pissy, im starting to believe
>>441620 kekk
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>>441655
not my thing sorry
No. 441659
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>>441656(spamming)
No. 441675
>>441667gross and porny. i hate it when fujos cosplay misogynistic objectification but it’s “ok” because it’s men’s “tits”. That’s literally a cow bra.
>>441672is this too much to ask for
>>441674post something better then
No. 441688
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>>441682
>hetslug
kek
No. 441699
>>441680Funny that for me it was the opposite:
> See main page> "yay Sono Hanabira"> It's lescel sperg baitHate this shit.
>>441689> Comparing touching moobs to BDSM and eating pussyOnly >>441664 is comparable to >>441672, come on. Shirtless moids are the most common shit possible, to the point i can't even leave the house without seeing obese post-walled scrote gynecomastia moobs in street.
No. 441851
>Shaming women for expressing their sexuality.
Classic.
I think the ban on scrotefoiling is doing more harm than good on this site, lately there's been an influx of obvious male incels spinning their misogynistic narratives on several threads and you can't even call them out anymore.
I'd say ignore the nagging prude incel misogynist and move on.
So to change the topic, have you noticed that when it comes to both bi men and bi women, everyone seems to question whether you like women, but not men?
Bisexual men are often seen as "gays in denial", and bisexual women are seen as "attention-seeking straights". Literally nobody will pester you on whether you actually like men or not, even though there's no objective basis for this argument that men would be inherently more desirable to bisexuals. If anything it'd be the opposite: women have prettier physical features, they take better care of themselves and have better hygiene, they're socialized to be kinder and more empathetic, and they're better partners in general because they're raised to be functional adults that don't need a mommy wife to cook and clean after them. Women in same sex relationships report higher sexual satisfaction than women in mixed-sex relationships, while in het relationships there's the known issue of the "orgasm gap".
So why is society constantly trying to force this narrative that people who like women are "in denial" or "lying"? Isn't it just the patriarchy promoting this subconscious notion that men are "universally desirable" and women are "less desirable"?
I've been reading on the concept of "self-fulfilling prophecies" in sociology ("a false definition of the situation evoking a new behavior which makes the originally false conception come true. In other words, the prediction we make at the start of something affects our behavior in such a way that we make that prediction happen"). And I can't help noticing that it's exactly what society tries to do to bisexuals.
If you're constantly getting told that your attraction towards women is fake, even by women themselves, then aren't you inevitably more likely to end up with the gender that nobody is questioning you about?
Thoughts?
No. 441857
>>441854How is that “out of line?” It’s calling a spade a spade. The fact is no normal person fantasizes about threesomes and you’re just
triggered about someone calling you what you are. That’s entirely your problem. Not every bisexual is a slut like you and we’re allowed to make that known.
(infighting) No. 441859
>>441854Ayrt, eh. Anons do things that gross me out all the time, it’s not much of a crime to have an opinion even if it’s very subjective. Personally I don’t think it’s terrible but I get why anons find it gross 100%. Actually, that’s not my point. My point is that it doesn’t make you a moid and I hate that that’s the first thing anons always jump to. Why would moids be here shaming threesomes anyway? They’d be shilling them if anything, that’s literally what they want.
>>441855I ended up more confused after coming across the thread and I wasn’t even questioning before kek. The thing is I value anons insights way more than any other place too (like reddit) so it’s a little frustrating. I understand that
contextually there may be psychological factors in suppressing attraction to men but that does not mean that the definition for attraction can change… if a woman who masturbates thinking about men licking her pussy is called OSA a woman thinking about women licking her pussy should be called SSA. Stigmatisation doesn’t change that.
No. 441861
>>441859The logic behind moids shaming threesomes would be false flagging to make the evil
terf lesbians seem rude and hateful I think
No. 441864
>>441860I’m just sick of women being called moidlike to be frank. It’s not even that odd of a thing to have an issue with. I don’t see how you can take edgy insults seriously when it’s kind of a staple of this website, it’s obviously overly offensive on purpose.
>>441861I mean fair possibility, though I don’t know if they’d be trying to make terfs seem bad to this website in particular kek
No. 441877
>>441851I just think that that stupid lesbian comphet masterdoc caused a lot of chaos, for both us and the lesbian community, women don’t want to accept they’re bi for some reason and go straight to the lesbian label, hence why you have retards who are saying that men can be lesbian, that liking penis is also lesbianism and other shit like that.
Also as much as we always talk about gender ideology destroying or trying to destroy same sex attraction, it’s also being used to erase bisexualism. Last time I stumbled on this X tweet with 19K notes where a tranny said that we don’t have any excuse to refuse them. It’s like anyone just sees us as a dumpster that accepts anything kek.
Regarding bi men I don’t really care honestly, call me biphobic or whatever but the bi men I’ve met have always been ultra lefty, pro-kink , pro sex work and other shit. I think low of the down low community too. The less I have to do with them the happier I am.
No. 441881
>>441877Samefag, to reconnect with what you said, I feel like our sexuality will always be like this to the majority of the people, you choose that or this and you have to stick with it, that’s how they see it. Being in the “middle” is just being indecisive and greedy kek, hence why the cheating stereotype and how we are never satisfied because we’ll always miss the other sex, especially men. This distinction is what makes bi women and bi men’s experience truly different, because to the eyes of society a woman who is with a woman will always miss penis; while a man who does engage in homosexual sex will never be able to be satisfied with just vagina, he’ll always miss penis. It’s phallocentrism, nothing more than that.
I don’t see ever changing it soon too, it was the same 6 years ago.
No. 441888
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just saw that the straight girl i was in love with in middle school and still kind of am posted a pic with her new boyfriend, some albanian guy who looks like a mentally retarded alcoholic and also looks like he's in his 40s. i wish the "everyone's a little bit bi" bullshit was real, i can't take it anymore.
No. 441921
>>441919Look, retard, I don’t know how many times we have to explain this to you, but
fantasizing about threesomes is degenerate and abnormal. And if you have those fantasies, you’re probably a slut. You can keep crying but it doesn’t make it less true. Normal people don’t have fantasies about sleeping with two people at once. That is literally textbook whore shit.
(infighting) No. 442440
>>441983I really don't understand her modus operandi. She hates "bisluts" and keeps sperging about how "someone needs to take out the trash" i.e. gatekeep lesbian communities from the evil bishits (which to her is basically anyone who isn't a pornbrained coomer weeb like her) yet she still lurks the thread
for bisexuals and ban evades just to keep her spergy infights going. I wish mods would just up and delete her posts on sight so that people would stop replying to her.
No. 442505
>>442501Ayrt thanks for replying, nonna. I'm not desperate or anything to try penetration, it's more of a curiosity and fomo in a way, like I could be missing something that I could like.
>In fact, I think it's kind of weird that you don't mention your experience or inexperience with fingers>then I realized how weird/suspicious this question isI don't really understand these parts, but maybe you think I'm a moid larping? I'm a early-20s woman who started dating girls when I was 17. I tend to like really feminine women who usually have long nails so I never experienced penetration with fingers. I'm used to having oral sex, sex with toys (not toys for penetration), and I had a gf who would just softly rub my clitoris using her fingers, which is honestly enough for me. The idea of penetration has always freaked me out because the sex ed I had in school let me a bit traumatized with this idea that's painful. My straight female friends growing up would also tell me how it hurt when they had sex with a guy for the first time, so I was more than happy to prefer women and be kinda disgusted by men. And sometimes I wonder if I could enjoy some form of penetration and if, maybe if the strap is not too big, it could just feel good without going too deep that it will hurt. But I may get one myself and try a few things on my own pace to see if I enjoy it to maybe try it with a partner one day (sadly I currently do not have a gf). I'll check the link, and thanks again nonna!
No. 442638
>>442636It’s not just sports, people’s hymens stretch from daily activity. I don’t think you can “not have one” it’s just anatomical and genetic how easy you’ll find penetration the first time. Mine just had to stretch from using fingers (very occasionally) over the years.
Like the other anon penetration has also always scared me and I’ve realised I’m just constitutionally small so even after my hymen stretched I can’t fit much in, doubt I could use most straps. I wish this was talked about more because I feel like it’s just assumed every woman should be able to take penetration or there is an issue that needs to be fixed. Like people who buy dilators. Yeah, no, I’ll just leave it be.
Tbh I thought most couples mostly used fingers on the clitoris and not the vagina.
No. 443110
>>442505PIV shouldnt hurt at the first time, it never did for me. Maybe there are some women with hymens that will get on the way and tear, but most of the time it has to be asshole moid showing it in before the woman is aroused enough. But experimenting on your own and going slow is good advice anyway.
Any anons here dating a woman? Are you open about it with your family, coworkers etc? I havent yet told my family besides my mother, some of them are homophobic (and racist, we also different races.) Is it bad if I just let my old as fuck grandpa die not telling him? My coworkers in straight relationships often mention their partners, I mostly stay silent or use some dumb gender neutral term. I think most of them wouldnt even care, but I think I have internalised homophobia.
No. 443500
>>443457I'm more or less like you too, anon. I've only dated other women, all of them also bi, and that has never been a problem, even though I'm not even a big fan of oral (I say that bc people tend to say that oral is the main thing in female same-sex relationships). I can't cum from receiving oral but I can go down on a girl without problems if she wants to, I just don't get as much enjoyment from it as fucking her with a strap kek Sorry but I love watching her face while she's enjoying herself and I'm on top, and that's the main reason I prefer the strap. It's really a mental thing for me
>I hope to find a female partner one day who likes receiving as much as I do, because I am obsessed with the idea of taking turns giving and receivingIt's not clear to me if you haven't dated a woman yet or just never dated one who enjoyed receiving, either way, ime it's more likely to happen with another bisexual woman. I never dated a lesbian but what I hear is that lesbians tend to hate straps or be extremely skeptical about women who like them as they think you'll leave them for a man. Thing is, I'm disgusted by men and prefer women kek
No. 443620
>>443525Can we just ignore the lesgen spergs? The bi vs les infight is endless and pointless.
Im not personally big fan of penetration but a strap would be fun to try some time. We havent even tried fingering with my new gf yet, my ex didnt want it so Im not experienced and bit scared of doing it wrong and hurting her. She has the same thing.
No. 443896
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ive gotten cheated on in every relationship ive been in and ive realized its my problem. im a bit ugly with a slightly unappealing body which i guess means people would just settle for me but im not really the one they want, not horrendously ugly, just mid. Im monogamous but im thinking it might be more worth it to just casually date instead of trying to find a life partner tbh. Actually now that i think about it im probably not that ugly since i get decent matches on apps and irl people approach me to say weird sexual shit, but im too loyal like a retarded dog, so i pair bond but the other person doesnt.
i used to be a bihater because my first time getting cheated on i got left for an ugly male, but now i know that i just turn women straight and it wasnt really their fault im just not what they want because what they want is a man.
i thought being bi meant that i would have a higher chance of meeting somebody i love but i think it make people think of you as disposable.
No. 443908
>>443896I sympathize with you and I get that you have to type things like this to get your thoughts out but I hope you know that
>im a bit ugly with a slightly unappealing body which i guess means people would just settle for me but im not really the one they want>im too loyal like a retarded dog, so i pair bond but the other person doesnt>i just turn women straight and it wasnt really their fault im just not what they want because what they want is a manthis stuff isn't true about you, and even if you do date a few people who treat you wrong or have such horrible thoughts, that's just how dating is. there's nothing wrong or unlovable about you and your appearance and your bisexuality aren't permanent roadblocks to love. dating is hard, finding someone compatible to fall in love with and stay with is hard and takes a lot of trial and error, and you'll get there eventually. I know it.
No. 443912
>>443908i appreciate that sorry im just being bitter.
i think what im trying to say is that i dont like how bisexuals get stereotyped as promiscuous cheating sluts when really people view us as disposable and treat us like meat
No. 443998
>>443934i wish it was that easy. its not because im fat its because im short and look like a dweeb. everybody ive been with has left me for somebody taller. Most recently i got cheated on with a 200 pound 6 foot tall woman. yes i have seen pics of her, im not exxagerating her weight or coping. my ex told me that i look too much like a little kid and the new girl looks more adult. Ive been 95 - 120 pounds throughout my life, skinny to being kindof built-fat and now back to somewhat skinny. it doesnt matter because im short. I really hate how pathetic and incellish this sounds but im realizing its true. women want to be with tall men or tall "men" and men want to be with tall women or children. its a status symbol to have a tall wife.
I wouldnt even mind if they broke up with me normally and just told me they didnt want to be with me, but they like to intentionally trick and betray me. I dont want to keep doing this anymore, but i dont know what im supposed to be doing or avoiding. I cant tell if its something wrong with me or if its something wrong with the type of person im attracted to.
No. 444043
>>443998>I really hate how pathetic and incellish this sounds but im realizing its true.again, I want you to know: it's really, really not that you're too short for love. I know you know this is true, because short women are in love all the time. some people like tall women, other people like short women, other people have no preference, and sometimes, people will fall in love with you and then come to see short women as the only attractive type of woman because your features become synonymous with love to them.
maybe there is something you could do to be more attractive or more charming, and I'm sure any kind of physical or personality-based self improvement campaign that you want to start wouldn't hurt, but the nice thing about height is that you literally never have to think twice about it because it's completely out of your hands.
this means nothing to you but I prefer the idea of dating someone close to my height (short) because a big height gap looks awkward to me and we can share clothes that way, but no height would ever be a dealbreaker if I liked someone on a personal level.
No. 444423
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Saw a couple nonnies do this in the lesbian thread and I thought it'd be fun to join.
Trying not to kms over the fact I got a literal moid, I want to think it's just the hair though.
No. 444449
>>444426>>444423NTAYRT, it's yandex results after uploading a selfie to it.
I'm not trying to fearmonger but from what I can tell, it looks like yandex has an API that returns recently uploaded files. Idk how sincere the original anon was, but there's already a retard in the lesbian thread trying to troll. Hopefully the site lets you delete your selfie from it, or hopefully no one goes back digging for potential matches with picrel results.
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>>444423Spoiler for front page
No. 444719
>>444598I mustv've been like 7 when I pictured myself holding hands with another girl in a romantic way and kinda thought to myself "huh, I wouldn't mind that" lmao. By the time I hit puberty and started getting sexual feelings and thoughts I already knew and was at peace with liking both genders.
It's funny how I never came out to anyone though, everyone just kinda knew anyway.
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>>444598My first crush was a girl
I was 8 or 9 and met her at a ski school on vacation. I didn't know about the words "bisexual" or "lesbian". I just thought "oh, I didn't know a girl could crush on a girl, must be one of those many things adults don't talk about"
A lot of early socialisation is just learning what's acceptable to say in society and what's not, apparently this was one of the things it was not acceptable to talk about when I was growing up
Pic related, my first crush
No. 445102
>>444598Like many of us I thought I was straight during childhood and didn't consider being SSA a possibility despite having a pattern of being a bit obsessive about my childhood friends and jealous when they played with other girls. I used to frequent this noughties Sims forum where one of the admins was an out lesbian and I was so fixated on her for reasons I assumed were heterosexual. Then puberty happened and I suddenly felt so thrilled at the thought of kissing a girl, and because I wasn't raised in a homophobic environment it was relatively easy to admit to myself I could see girls as a romantic possibility. I felt a lot more free just from doing that and telling a couple of online friends, pretty sure it was over MSN in 2007.
>>444826>mid 40sHot. Date me (I'm 30)
No. 445309
>>444043>and sometimes, people will fall in love with you and then come to see short women as the only attractive type of woman because your features become synonymous with love to them.I know it's been a week but I want to highlight this sentence because I think a lot of people don't realize this especially when young.
I've experienced my mind and body re-orienting what I "prefer" around someone unexpected who made me crazy about them with a beautiful soul. I'll always know that the same could happen to someone else looking at me, because I've felt that.
No. 445313
>>445310It does until you feel it yourself :)
Love is the most powerful drug in the world, it does things to you that you'd never expect.
(:)) No. 445473
>>445460This is interesting actually, I am about same height (5’10 so inch taller) and have never once been rejected on height basis by scrote.
Short ones are on me like flies on shit ugh I guess it prob depends on your “type” and where you live tho. On the other hand, I’m too femme for most women looking for a woman, because they see my height and think I should be the dominant one all the time kek
No. 445611
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Im the one from earlier upthread
>>437801 that was creeping on this girl at the gym. nonas my work schedule changed back and I went to the gym again at my usual time and my basketball player snow white princess was not there. I even stayed an extra hour doing cardio on the stair master waiting for her to arrive. In case you dont have a stair master at your gym just know that is not a small feat. I kept telling myself just 5 more minutes until she gets here but then she never did. Im never going to see her again. last i saw her she had a brace on her foot like she broke it or something. i hope your bone heals and you live a wonderful life and someday come back to the gym at the same time as me so i can watch you do lat pulldowns.
but its ok since i think i found a new girl to creep on in one of my classes. she looks like young elijah wood and looks really anxious. though not fully developed, my creepiness with her is rising steadily
>>445518they are mostly nasty. but are you attracted to women or simply repulsed by males?
No. 445744
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I'm lowkey infatuated with my friend who has a boyfriend, and the fact that she's also bisexual makes it hurt even more.
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These are the bitches that waste your time and are in reality straight as an arrow kek
No. 446828
>>446734Damn I’m sorry, I relate to this so hard except I’m a lesbian and my crush is bi. You can’t really tell anyone you feel this way because they’ll look at you like you’re insane, I’ve been getting irrationally angry at moids that look like him too (also hairy kek) and get basically
triggered by heterosexuality these days. I just relate it all back to her. Fucking hurts
No. 447217
>>446828>triggered by heterosexuality these days. I just relate it all back to her. Fucking hurtsAyrt, I’m going through the exact same thing. And because most of the world is straight and it’s everywhere, it’s like the whole world around me is a
trigger. I even find myself wishing I could be a man at times, but it’s really only because of how hard I pine for her. Thank you for your reply, it really brought me some comfort to know I’m not the only one.
No. 447296
>>447217Idk if
triggered is the word for me but I had a sort of similar experience with a bi friend group in the past. The other two preferred men and I always felt insecure and out of place about it, it didn't really help that one of them was a fakeboi (online only, regular she/her irl) and admitted to coping with it by obsessing over men to an insane degree. I remember her telling me once that she was fixated on masculinity and craved it in a way that I guess was supposed to be relatable and I just felt so indescribably grossed out. It definitely gave me a similar feeling of like I was doomed for not being a perfect desirable man though
No. 447831
I really, really want to learn how to flirt with girls. Maybe I'm just a turboautist but the two girls I had a relationship with, they "took" me and that was it, I was the one to get invested and them going "so are we going out" and I went "yeah! yippeee!" but now that I'm getting older I realized that I'm kinda fucked. I do not call myself a dom/sub because I adapt depending on the relationship so I'm not after any particular "role" (god is so stupid to talk like this but idk how to explain without sounding like a retard and I'm esl) but I realize that I like other classic femme women or feminine butches, nothing too masculine or the "one of the boys" lesbians and I think that's the problem, because I'm femme myself. Not a super femme but I like stereotypically feminine fashion and makeup and fine jewels and sappy shit and blablabla so I understand I do not look like your usually pussy enjoyer and I can understand that, still, how do I flirt without coming off as creepy/tryhard?
Idk if that's a problem with lesbians but often, in generic sapphic events, I got made fun of because I "wasn't committed", especially when I turned down their avances because yeah girl, we love the same thing, but I'm not attracted to you and I don't like to fit in a stereotype of heavy butch/feminine girl but when I want myself to be the approaching one to a cute girl, I feel lost both for not knowing shit about flirting and both for "uhmm what if femmes don't like femmes" and I get really sad lmfao. As I said, maybe it's the autism and I cannot do shit about it, but I wonder how this stuff is being seen on the other side because I never got approached by a femme. Maybe I'm really the weak link and the loser in the whole equation, damn.
Flirting with moids is easy as fuck because yeah I can be picky with them but it really takes "being nice" and they think you're into it but I feel like you can give the world to girls and they will think you're "just being nice" and that's where my mind does not compute….
No. 448132
>>447854On /ot/ I think it’s maybe 75% women with the spergs being about half baiting scrotes, half serious or baiting women.
I think the OSA threads on here have a decent population of fags (especially the male bodies thread). Female fantasies seems like mostly women, possible troon moids whose posts usually just get ignored because they’re weird and the occasional baiting scrote posting something so the entire of /ot/ and heterosexuals can go and yell see lesbians are the exact same as scrotes! Because of one post kek.
This thread seems pretty clean, but the lesbian thread definitely has a dedicated number of scrotes (and possibly some women) baiting there. Recently I’d say a pretty large proportion of posts there are probably scrotes from kf
No. 448232
>>447722ive had 5 years with the same moid and one year with a woman. so technically ive been with 2 women and one male.
>>447909my tulpa says that normies need to get off the board
No. 448241
>>448232anon I wish I was a fucking normie but I am a sexless sperg with shitty hobbies. I'm knocking on the nonsensical and aggressive shit flinging that happens on this site over nothing
>>448204Is it bad that this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me? There are some decent female KF posters that arent pickmes and I think it would be funny to laugh at moidcows together, but I could also see this turning out terribly. No I dont plan on trawling KF for an e-gf
No. 448345
>>448264I love male-obsessed fakebian febfems of your kind because you're still so (hot and) bothered by moids you can't help but fixate on them whenever they're casually brought up.
>you think marrying and raising kids with women is better? OPINION DISCARDED h-h-het-partnered nigelfagYou don't even make sense. I just know you love men more than you let on otherwise you wouldn't puff up and act like le based misandrist pseudo-homo online.
(infight bait) No. 448583
>>448240> (okay, you care about how you're perceived, but why date women in the first place then?) That’s a fair question. Imo, they crave that sense of normalcy because unfortunately, just because a few select western countries got gay rights that doesn’t mean that homophobia ceased to exist in the world and even in said western countries. Also, family plays a huge role in their decision and it’s painful to have your relationship with your family severed or muddied for being SSA and I don’t like how some people talk about coming out to your family or being transparent about your orientation like it’s a walk in the park.
I may be wrong, after all my perspective is different because of where I live and I don’t have some of the liberties of the western world in that regard and the ones that I already have are on thin ice.
If your friends are also western, I wish they would cherish what they have and step out of that pressure somehow if it’s viable for in terms of security especially.
No. 448856
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How do you find bi women who aren't handmaidens? I was talking to this one woman and then found her socials and she's friends with agp puppygirl troons. Is dating normal women impossible living in the west?
No. 448863
>>448862alright. any
canadian nonnas with curly hair who like artistic stuff but not in a queerio way?
No. 448869
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>>447267>the girl i like is in compsci and has fluffly brown hair and big glasses>>448865aww nonna…
No. 449128
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So I've had my fair share of lickin' because I love pussy juice, it's literally ambrosia to my taste buds. So technically I wouldn't count as a virgin but my hymen never broke (until now but we're getting there) so does it even count? So I've made it my goal to rip that motherfucker. I've started dating the best option, he's muscular, 6.5 inches, dresses good, facially attractive, juicy ass, rich, has a car, buys me shit, though he's short (around the same height as me) but I don't give a fuck about that. And sort of insufferable in terms of personality as well as a Redditor, 4channer, discord mod (ew). But it's to be expected when you're doing computer science. He was the best option that was my age, single (all the good guys were taken) and in my class. Yeah anyway we had sex and it was awesome, we actually managed to orgasm around the same time (I did first). Now that the mission is completed I'm getting kinda tired of his ass, but I'm gonna keep dating him for a little bit, maybe 2 months max, because it comes with perks. Though I NEED a woman in my near vicinity immediately. Unfortunately the hot girls in my class are straight or already dating or they never step a foot in and I can't find them to talk to them (and perhaps more…?) There are a few bisexuals but they're so repulsive physically and so insufferable with no redeeming qualities so I cannot do this. My best bet is waiting til Christmas comes so I'll go out clubbing with my friends in my hometown and wait until they get drunk as fuck so I can give them a little smooch. Sigh.
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I hate that I don’t necessarily miss my ex girlfriend but I am nostalgic about our relationship sometimes. She treated me like shit and has me blocked now, but I feel like it was somewhat of an era. I’m dating a moid now, and he’s been very kind to me, but I miss how it was a little.
No. 449217
>>449213For me it stopped when I actually engaged with women. Also sorry I’m not meant to be in this thread, just trying to give advice - I’m a lesbian and I do think maleness and the male body being completely unarousing to me made me realise the idea of having sex with a woman as a man is just not hot anyway, so there’s that too but unfortunately you won’t relate to that. But I think personally I had this insecurity in part because I’d internalised the idea women would prefer me and enjoy sex more with me if I were a man. Finding a partner that really likes you for you makes you want to be just that - yourself, with them, because it’s you and your anatomy that they’re desiring. And since most women say they’re enjoying the sex more than they did with men, the compatibility of our anatomy must
at least decent, right?
No. 449235
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Nonnas, I think my best friend of 10 years likes me. I've been putting pieces together, and my retarded self has finally seen the picture. Any time there's a lesbian couple in any show or movie we are watching, or two females who the writers obviously wrote with homosexuality in mind, she'll say it's us and buy us matching items dedicated to those characters. She remarks all the time about how she never wants children and always looks mad when someone suggests settling down with a man, saying she could never see herself in that position but she's already told me all her plans about how me and her will spend the rest of our lives together. She's even done financial planning on what apartment to get. She refers to us as Yuri jokingly and her parents whom she's still close with I'm not in contact with mine, call us a gay couple. I can't tell if I'm reading too much into it but I'm a genuine autist and all of my romantic partners in the past have told me I can't read romantic cues. Nonnies help an autist out, should I ask her?
No. 449270
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To be honest, I don't like being bi. I feel like the space is 99.9% overtaken by either:
1) Straight girls who just want attention and would open their legs for just about anyone
2) TIMs who just want attention and would open their legs for just about anyone
3) Confused TIFs who just don't want to admit they're straight or lesbian
I don't want to be one of those le biphobic people but sometimes I really do wonder if bisexual women actually exist because it is in fact my experience in that any person I've ever met who has been "bi" has just been a woman that's promiscuous and/or confused or just a man larping as one. I had girls express interest in me back when I was in school but it was all ones that ended up being straight. I had a sexual experience with a TIM (I know, ew) in college but he was an obvious, TIM-typical manwhore that already had multiple sexual partners and even bragged about orgies he had. I had a friend TIF out and date some chick, when it was painfully obvious to me she is not actually attracted to women. This TIF now identifies as a gay man. Years of pretending she actually shared in my interest in women and even asked me out, because we had a bunch of other girls in our friend circle running around expirmenting with eachother, so this was just 'lul' to me.
So it makes me wonder, where are all the actual bi women that would want more than just sex with a woman? I feel like almost everyone who claims they are bi is just riding some fad or using it as an excuse to get off on a taboo (Like straight girls that will only have sex with a woman if their boyfriend is watching).
No. 449376
>>449364There are some straight moids who claim to be bi/"pan" to get with tifs and enby chicks.
>>449363I have met my ex and the woman I am currently dating in an app. Just need to be patient, you need to swipe past a lot of troons, polyfags, women looking for just friends, couples looking for a threesome etc. And the normal bi/lesbian women might often end up ghosting you. It is honestly a hell, but if you dont have irl opportunities to meet SSA women they might be the best chance.
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>see pictures of her ex
>ex is beautiful
>they're still friends and it feels like she's not entirely over her
>mfw
I mean, I wouldn't have made a move anyway for a few different reasons, but pain.
No. 449395
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theyre talking about us again in the lesbian thread lol
No. 449705
>>449362One of them was a classmate in middle school who clearly asked me out just to make a guy she liked jealous. Another was a friend who I had once confessed feelings for but gotten rejected by at the time because she said she is straight. Years later, she is posting pictures of herself on Facebook making out with other women and where her boyfriend is in the middle. Coincidentally, she comes back suddenly telling me she had "always" had a crush on me. Obviously I can't 100% know if they were 100% straight or not, but it is clear any girl who was ever expressed interest in me was just experimenting with me. I don't like being expiremented on. Especially now that I'm older.
>>449364>whether they're whoreish or not wouldn't make them less biIt would make them less biromantic. If you think of sexuality only defining who you would be willing to have sex with, not who you can also get romantically attracted to, tons of women would be willing to do the former (especially if their moid is watching) since lesbian sex is usually considered "hot" by both men and women, but much less would be willing to do the latter. I'd be fine with straight girls admitting this but to do shit like say they have a "crush" on you, go on dating apps where bisexual women are looking to actually DATE women, and etc. implies there would be romantic attraction as well, when they wouldn't have any. It feels like we only exist for women's curiosity (or just them just wanting to be anything but straight, since they want to join all their friends in their straight=
problematic or straight=lame talk) and a straight moid's coom sometimes. I used to want a girlfriend but I don't think I could easily find one that doesn't have an ulterior motive for calling herself "bi" anymore.
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twitter user libfem bislut x lolcow user radfem dyke enemies to lovers slowburn 300k words
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>>449235Trying not to freak out right now she said she loves me. Im going insane.
A surprise month of Hellmas is now in effect. For the rest of the month of December, VPN posting will be banned.