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The translation is stiff but worth it if you don't care too deeply. I recommend subbing for a month and reading titles you really want and then cancelling. Their library isnt large enough for a continued annual sub.
tl;dr subscribe only in monthly installments
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Hi. I still have a problem. Weird formatting because this is taken from an Excel. Recs have a ★. Picture is "Usagi no Mori" which is getting a drama CD later this week.
CALL 朝田ねむい Asada Nemui
Good for nothing who is always low on cash figures he can just string-along a guy looking to pay for gay sex. It doesn't go as planned. This felt very raw, it's not a cute story at all. Good though.
フロムヘブンヘブン From Heaven Heaven ほど Hodo
Shortly before they graduate a high school student gets offered sex from the schoolmate he always longingly looked at. There are some misunderstandings of intentions, but in total it's very sweet and wholesome.
世田谷シンクロニシティ Setagaya Synchronicity 本郷地下 Hongo Chika
University student newly moves into the dormitory, where he has sex with his room mate, making things awkward considering he has a girlfriend (who he can't get it up for). They keep meeting at random places outside the dorm as well. The story had me scratch my head sometimes, but whatever.
計画的パブロブメーカー Keikakuteki Pavlov Maker つし子 Tshushiko
Cook who has a fetish for being eaten starts feeding a high school student who reciprocates by biting him. I couldn't really get into the characters, but if biting is your thing…
服従と甘噛み Fukujuu to Amagami 志木見ビビ Shikimi Bibi
Veterinarian picks up an injured wolf, turns out it's actually a werewolf. The werewolf is having trouble living a stable life because outside of the day he turns into a wolf he has a week each month where he has wolf ears and a tail. They end up living together and while the werewolf at first is reluctant towards the veterinarian they start a relationship. The uke is pretty cute, I like the interactions of the pair.
ミッドナイトレスキュー Midnight Rescue 一十 Itto
Succubus lives in a world where they can learn to change sex, but he's not interested until he meets a police officer he wants to get fucked by. Pheromones something something police officer fucks him even if the succubus is in his male form. This is bara, written by a man, which is probably why I found it pretty meh.
★ 兎の森 Usagi no Mori 苑生 Enjou
Two high schoolers, one has been in love with the other since elementary school, the other has a very complicated home life and lots of complexes concerning women and being a man. Beautifully complex characters, lots of backstory, and a nice slow burn.
★ 跪いて愛を問う Hizamazuite Ai wo tou 山田ノノノ Yamada Nonono
Dom/Sub universe in actually good. Guy with a hate toward subs works in a "brothel" for them. Childhood friend returns from overseas and tells the guy that he (brothel guy) is actually a sub - which he doesn't believe. I may have said bad things about Dom/sub universe before and I apologize.
君の足元で愛を知る Kimi no Ashimoto de ai wo shiru 後之マツリ Atono Matsuri
Dom/sub universe. Sub who is not interested in the whole thing can't control his health with medication anymore, so goes looking for a dom using a governmental matching service. He matches with his co-worker. Sweet enough but I found it kind of boring.
おすわり、よくできました Osuwari, yoku dekimashita 三栖よこ Misumi Yoko
Dom/sub universe. Two gay men who had been "rivals" at a gay bar, one suddenly turns from a "normal" into a "sub", the other had been a Dom before and offers his help to alleviate symptoms of not being properly dominated. Was okay.
パーフェクトプロポーズ Perfect Propose 鶴亀まよ Tsurukame Mayo
Overworked guy suddenly has a gay childhood friend standing in front of his door, asking for a place to stay. The childhood friend has made it his mission to make the salaryman fall for him. The backstory was nice and they felt very comfy together.
スパダリな同僚に×××を見せる話 Supadari na douryou ni xxx wo miseru hanashi まぶた単 Mabuta Hitoe
Male virgin who is into masturbation masturbates next to his co-worker when he has him sleeping at his place after a night out. Co-worker is into it. Male masturbation is one of those things I like in BL and not IRL, and this one wasn't bad, but it also didn't quite do it for me.
スーツの奥までいじめてあげる Suits no oku made ijimete ageru あわいけい Awai Kei
M tax authority worker gets found out by one of his "clients", a yakuza-affiliated guy running clubs and they start a relationship. I liked the couple and the sex, but the art not my cup of tea.
★ ひもの、時々、社内恋愛 Himono, tokidoki, shanai ren'ai 春田 Haruta
Man falls in love with his superior, who is perfect at work but a slob at home. Cute couple, nice progression of the story, even though their first time is when the superior is blackout drunk. The writing was quite humorous as well.
Fake Boys Love Fake Boys Love 三栖よこ Misumi Yoko
Two streamers pretend to be a gay couple for views, one of them actually loves the other. The concept is pretty interesting, so far there are only 3 chapters so a bit too early to decide whether it's going to actually be good.
★ 僕の番はサラブレッドΩ Boku no tsugai wa thoroughbred Ω あらた六花 Arata Licca
ABO. Two young actors are cast to play an ABO couple, and of course they become an actual couple after it transpires that one of them is actually an omega. Nicely drawn.
★ 目を閉じても光が見える Me wo tojite mo Hikaru ga mieru 丸木戸マキ Marukido Maki
Two actors for gay porn are starting to shoot a series aimed towards women and get closer to each other. Both of them have a complicated past and while they of course have sex it takes quite a while and lots of challenges for them to get together.
★ ノット ロンググッドバイ Not long good-bye 緒花 Ohana
A young couple living together, having promised to break up once one of them turns 20. Lots of shared history, lots of trauma, lots of complicated feelings, lots of tears from my side. A really bitter-sweet story.
恋をするつもりはなかった Koi wo suru tsumori wa nakatta 鈴丸みんた Suzumaru Minta
Gay guy looks for someone to take his virginity on his 30th birthday, meets a young university student and there are misunderstandings and what not. I didn't quite get the emotional baggage of the seme and so it was hard for me to give a shit about the couple as a whole.
純情ワンコと劣情タトゥー Junjou Wanko to retsujou tattoo 三栖よこ Misumi Yoko
Young actor is getting body-painted a tattoo by a tattoo artist for his latest role, tattoo artist really enjoys touching him. This was sweet, I liked the seemingly stoic seme, but the drama in the second half was a bit forced/unrealistic.
エロ漫画家とアシくん Ero-Mangaka to Ashi-kun 博士 Hakase
Manga artist gets assigned an assistant because he's overworked. He tries to scare him away by masturbating in front of him, the assistant instead offers to help him. This was pretty cute, I liked the art and the dynamic between the two.
逃がしたくないあいつはキスも知らない Nigashitakunai aitsu wa kiss mo shiranai 九尾つなし Kuo Tsunashi
Young guy starts working at a company making VNs, is actually super inexperienced about sexual stuff. Gets together with one of his co-workers. The sex was neat, but the story around it was kind of boring to me.
先生は便器じゃありません。 Sensei wa benki ja arimasen ホン・トク Hontoku
A teacher moves into the countryside, immediately starts fucking a co-worker with huge dick. Lots and lots of sex, some background drama, but somehow the two main characters didn't stay with me.
★ ピンクポルノで待ちあわせ Pink Porno de machiawase 三栖よこ Misumi Yoko
Guy likes old erotic movies and goes to a cinema to watch one, instead gets picked up by another man who writes about those erotic movies for a living. I liked the theme and the seme a lot.
元彼×セキュリティ Motokare x Security 理原 Rihara
Security guard is tasked with guarding his ex-boyfriend, a novelist who is being stalked. I found it a bit bland, the only interesting part was that the security guard is the uke but he's also really pretty, so…
守ってあげたい佐渡さん Mamotte agetai Sado-san ななつの航 Nanatsuno Wataru
Uke is a guy with constant bad luck, who starts hanging out with a co-worker who has constant good luck. They start a relationship. Kind of funny, kind of cute, a pretty standard love story apart from the bad/good luck thing.
最低な男の腕の中 Saitei na otoko no ude no naka 北野仁 Kitano Megumi
Gay uni student gets drunk with neighbour next door, who he believes to be super promiscuous and just a low-life in general. They start fucking. This was cute, I liked the uke's mom.
ハローモーニングスター Hello Morning Star 倉橋トモ Kurahashi Tomo
Two idols from different groups who used to date are told to live together to create chemistry before shooting a movie together. They of course get back together. The second volume is about two idols of the same group. First volume was cute, I didn't like the couple the second volume centered on all that much.
ピンクとまめしば Pink to Mameshiba 倉橋トモ Kurahashi Tomo
Young teacher is super into idols, gets found out by one of his high school students and gets blackmailed by him. I saw the twist from a mile away, and the couple also didn't do much for me.
★ ウサギちゃん、どシコり申し上げます Usagi-chan, doshikori moushiagemasu 三坂二ウム Misaka Nium
Wealthy (young) company president goes to male bunny bar to relax, meets man with the breasts of his dreams. I like muscular clueless ukes, this one was really cute and I totally understand the company president.
生贄のお勤めは、 Ikinie no otsutome wa 博士 Hakase
Young guy gets sent to a dog god as sacrifice for his village. Turns out the shape-shifting dog god prefers fucking to eating people. This was okay but I remember it mostly for its (brief) scene of actual bestiality.
ごめんしたって許さない Gomen shitattte yurusanai 博士 Hakase
A guy from the countryside moves to Tokyo, gets conned by various people and gets turned into some super chad, then starts fucking men for money. He gets found out by a classmate who tells him to stop and to become a better person. Kind of weird premise.
脳イキ絶頂ASMR Nou iki zecchou ASMR 因幡 Inaba
Gay university teacher is into ASMR, turns out his favourite creator is also a student he doesn't like. The premise was done much better in "Minami-kun ga kono koe ni jirasaretai".
泣き虫ハルちゃんの初恋 Nakimushi Haru-chan no hatsukoi 北野仁 Kitano Megumi
Half-French high school kid is not so secretly in love with his childhood friend and they start dating. He cries super quick and is super mushy in general, so unless you have a high tolerance for that… Cute though.
開発済みですがレクチャーはできません！ Kaihatsuzumi desu ga Lecture wa dekimasen! むろ文子 Muro Ayako
Sex shop clerk is really into reviewing sex toys, but technically still a virgin. To change that he installs a hook-up app and finds a customer who never looks at the clerks. Turns out the customer has social anxiety. This was okay but not more. Lots of sex toys, obviously.
僕の世界は君だけに Boku no sekai wa kimi dake ni むろ文子 Muro Ayako
Several short stories: A model? dating his manager and getting into an accident, a student who got tattooed when he was very young and had a weird ritual with a classmate surrounding that tattoo, a couple who has been together for a while and is facing problems, a male prostitute who has a weird client. Because the stories are so short they don't drag on, and they all were weird enough to make them interesting.
なんかもうあーあって感じ。 Nanka mou a-a tte kanji. 宮田トヲル Miyata Toworu
Two students start to pretend date because of a game, start actually dating. This was really cute, even though the story is something everyone has already read.
フェイクファクトリップス Fake Fact Lips 末広マチ Suehiro Machi
Co-workers who have been rivals since high school keep on making bets, with the winner getting to tell the loser what to do. After fucking (because reasons) they make a bet about who is going to make the other fall for him first. Really stupid story, and of course you already know what the catch is (the winner is clear from the beginning), but I still rooted for them.
後輩の雄っぱいが好きすぎる Kouhai no Oppai ga sukisugiru にたこ Nitako
Gay guy at work gets his first subordinate who has huge titties, which is his fetish. He starts fantasizing about him pretty much straight away but tries to hide it. Seme is a super himbo.
それでは先生、お願いします。 Sore dewa Sensei, onegai shimasu. 日乃チハヤ Hino Chihaya
Author of erotic fiction only writes if his handler from the publishing house puts him in the mood. New handler is a huge fan and would do anything to read the latest work of the author. I might've seen this scenario too often, but it didn't feel interesting.
★ メロンの味 Melon no aji 絵津鼓 Etsuko
Customer at a livehouse asks a guy who works there if he can come live with him as he's become homeless. They start living together and slowly start a relationship that doesn't really get name put on it. Earnest quiet story, includes talk about depression and social anxiety. I liked it.
★ ネコ×ネコ Neko x Neko たつもとみお Tatsumoto Mio
Two men who have been dating for a few years. They started dating when the uke was still very small and cute (they're around the same age though) and now the uke is afraid seme isn't attracted to him anymore - he also wants to fuck the seme. I'm not entirely sure I've read a story where both characters don't have fixed roles, I kind of wish more would do that, it's interesting seeing characters in both positions.
★ 愛されたがりのサーフェイス Aisaretagari no Surface 百瀬あん Momose An Two actos are asked to start living together to prepare for a role (is this something that actually happens? It's a huge staple for BL somehow). The older actor really admires the younger one, who used to be a child actor, but the younger actor soon grows tired of pretending to be perfect and basically assaults him. Cute, but the drama and the "twist" felt kind of forced.
東京ー四季ー Tokyo - Shiki - ハル Haru
Short stories with characters and side characters from "4gatsu no Tokyo wa…" and new characters. A genius will help a rich kid with learning for entrance exams in exchange for sex; a huge gay slut falls for a closeted gay guy; and the couple from "4gatsu no Tokyo wa" get married. The first short story wasn't for me, but the other two were nice and the last one made me cry because I loved the couple so much. Unfortunately "4gatsu no Tokyo wa" is superior.
蛍は明日死ぬ Hotaru wa ashita shinu 斉川冬 Saikawa Fuyu
Guy is obsessed with Hotaru, a girl from a book he loves. One day he meets a guy at school who is just like Hotaru (but male) and they start dating. Interesting idea, the drawings were nice as well.
If you're the same anon who always post a shit ton of recs, would you create a blog or something to archive your recs? I'd love to see that in case I go back to Japan or these manga get released in my country which would be even better because they would be uncensored
so I'll check what to buy or just read very easily.
If someone can tell me whether I can share a google doc anonymously, I'll just share the link to the file.>>167386
Yes, please join!
samefag here but the authors actually put a lot of love and details into it. It's the same with BL visual novels, I was super shocked when I saw the uncensored dicks in the official translations of Sweet Pool and Togainu no Chi because I didn't expect it. Whenever there were dicks on screen there was also a small mention that was like "not for sale in Japan" or something because of the lack of censorship.
I remember Niyama saying that her manga in some countries were uncensored and her Japanese fans on twitter were considering getting the French volumes online.
This depends on the artist, but I'd say 99% draw the dick first and then it gets censored afterwards. The amount of censorship (black bars vs. white lightsaber) depends on the publisher as well and sometimes there are two versions. BL manga didn't get into the game to not
There are manga like what you want around, idk if it's translated but Riman Loveho Danshikai while not being drawn beautifully is absolute smut and pretty close to what exists for coomers. There are the main manga that aren't 99% sex and then there are the offshots that are. The artist has said that she doesn't want to draw too many pages that people will just skip, so it's like 6 pages of story and 48 or so of just fucking.
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Picrel sums up my personal reasoning fairly well. Fujobians, rise up!>>167526
I love when BL has both great character dynamics AND plenty of lewd moments. I’m not a fan of cock redraws personally, but they aren’t a huge deal, really.
How long does it take to learn moon? I started a Japanese course on Duolingo(lol) and can kinda read hiragana now, but I hear kanji is a real pain in the ass to learn>>167581
Other anons will say you're cringe, but I agree completely
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They're my favorite as well.>>167627
If you're aiming for fluency I'd say four years but if you only want to read manga then a year should be enough.
i often read doulingo is not really good for learning… there are some neocities sites that give good resources, so i recommend you that.
but yes, kanji+vocabulary is hard, but just like everything else, studying hard pays off!
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how is this weird? i’d say it’s tame compared to, say, gangrape-chan
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100% this. Perfect!>>167627
Really depends on the plot. If it's your run off the mill romantic plot you don't need much Japanese.>>167581
I like that part as well. They're always so easily to be made weak in the knees, it's super cute. In general, I like that in BL men can be cute af and cry and shit. "It feels too good" tears are 10/10.
エッチなことおしえてください (Ecchi na koto oshiete kudasai) by Hareya Umako
Gay virgin books a prostitute to learn how to please a potential future lover. Falls in love with the prostitute. No surprises here, but it was cute. https://www.cmoa.jp/title/219457/
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do you read doujinshi? what is your favorite fujo ship from a non-BL manga/series?
It didn't take me too long thanks to anime. I knew a lot of vocabulary before starting so in 3 months I was already reading manga with kanjitomo. I guess learning kanji is annoying but it really isn't that bad. This is the guide I used: https://djtguide.neocities.org/guide.html
Honestly my biggest shock was realizing that scanlators chose really limited kinds of bl. Like only really popular stuff would get scanlated. My favorite is comedy bl and I'd never seen that scanlated before.
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Megumi x Yuji (aka Meguyuji; Fushiita)
Thanks to the latest chapters people are finally properly waking up to the seme potential of Megumi. I'll read Gojo x Yuji and Yuji x Megumi as well though.
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Have you read stuff by Hontoku?
if it's megumi with yuji i agree that seme megumi works better. also because yuji suits the manly uke trope very well imo lol
seems like jjk has gotten really popular with japanese fujoshi, but i have a bad feeling megumi will end up with his sister because the author has an incest fetish apparently
They're not related by blood. Tsumiki's mom and Toji briefly dated, then Tsumiki's mom disappeared and Toji was Toji, so Megumi and Tsumiki started living together.
I still really hope you're wrong. Tbh I don't want any love relationships in JJK, Gege needs to keep that Megumi/Yuji bromance fodder flowing though.
Eh,grey zone for me.
The BL Kajitsu has a couple like that btw, two boys/young men who were brothers for six years before their parents divorced.
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Well, d'uh, not my preferred scenario either but fat chance Megumi will end up fucking Yuji in the ass in this PG-13 manga being released in a magazine for boys.
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Adding on to your post, there are a couple other zomBL manga like Boys of the Dead and Living Dead/Sleeping Dead too. Probably not as much action as OP wants but it’s something.
There’s also this one, Bouzo to Kumo that has some traveling and fighting in it.
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Left or Right ?
isn't that clamp couple canon? then it's not fujobait. i watched yu yu hakusho when i was 8 so i don't remember well what was the relationship between hiei and kurama>>167985
no, it's typical shounen so it focuses more on male characters. also the mangaka has a thing for disfigured ladies so it's not that appealing to scrote weebs
It isn't. Like you have to have fujo goggles on already to find it bait-y. Plus >>167960
is one pairing that bonds over their love of tall women with big butts, so yeah…
As someone who's seen the YYH anime and read the manga, I don't understand the ship. They put out a ton of fujobait-y artwork of them but in the actual series they didn't interact outside of the very beginning when they were working together and neither of them really showed any interest for each other. But then again the standards for fujoshit in the late 90's were abysmal kek>>168134
I need the source for this, right now nonnie
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I like the word Slasher tbh, sounds brutal.
depends, If you exclusively ship 3DPD I don't think you should count as a Fujo
idk just feels wrong
Sounds sick, but I’ll always associate “slashers” with the horror subgenre and not RPF communities kek.
I think you guys’re just called either shippers or fangirls.
Western fujoshi and Japanese (and Asian in general) fujoshi aren't that different tbh. I need to remind everyone here that American Supernatural fanfic writers came up with omegaverse and Japanese BL authors ate that shit up and there are now a shit ton of BL manga and BL released in Japan on a regular basis.>>168156
That reminds me of when Toko in Dangan Ronpa reveals she's both a fujoshi and a serial killers targetting pretty boys by calling herself a slasher. The pun was just perfect.
Not into shounen (aka the most of the examples given) but I mostly prefer now.
Also I thought Sakura’s bro and Yukito were dating?
All omegaverse is terrible but I never got why it triggers
so many people due to "ree misogyny", it's just a dumb fantasy world of "what-if"s and I have a really hard time taking it seriously enough to be offended over ass babies. It's such a waste of energy. And no, please don't sperg out about the reasons on me because I already know, I just don't care because it's stupid.
So I'm not one of those "Mpreg is misogyny" types but I just dislike it cause its fucking goffy, like I can't take it seriously and I don't understand how can take it seriously
its like a balloon fetish appearing out of nowhere, maybe not the worst thing in the world but its still fucking stupid and I am gonna make fun of you for it
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While I'm not some huge ABO fan, I get why "uke wants needs to fuck so badly it's making them physically sick" is hot. To me, one major aspect of sex in general is just this wanting of one another, and ABO is just an extreme version of that. Yes, the plot is pretty much always the same (omega doesn't like alpha -> but he smells so good -> fucking -> oh he was my destined alpha after all), but plot-recycling is pretty common anyways.
I have read some Dom world fics, that basically accomplishes the same thing as a/b/o just without the mpreg >>168229
I mean what you described in its self is hot, I don't think most people have an issue with that aspect, its just the baby aspect
I don't wanna see this character who was getting a pounded 5 pages ago becoming a parent out of nowhere
joseimuke series like hypmic, enstars and twst are really hard to get into for us westerners because there's no actual localization
hypmic has a pretty cool concept and songs from what i've heard but i find the radfem villains plot kinda off putting
some characters have possible
gfs from what i've heard
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I'm basic, so Eren/Levi (aged up/adult Eren only). I like Eren/Armin, too.
I feel like people have read one or two, didn't like them and decided they're all bad. There is tons of ABO that doesn't have mpreg. Also as >>168236
said, Dom universe is just ABO without the mpreg and with juicier sex.
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Yes! I love Ramujaku and Gendice!
I'm going to sound dumb but what exactly does moon mean here? I'm guessing you mean learn Japanese based off of previous discussion?
I'm actually starting to learn it again. I've been using the Tofugu masterlist. I had the hiragana memorized a while ago, but I haven't practiced since so I'm getting back into it. I got hella depressed over the fact that I couldn't read a bunch of untranslated otome, so I got motivated again. If you've played VNs before, how long would you say it would take to learn enough to start being able to read untranslated ones? One year for manga is pretty decent, so I'm optimistic. Would love to be completely fluent one day, though.
I actually feel pretty committed this time because I consume enough Japanese media that it's starting to seem more and more necessary. Feels kind of embarrassing to learn just for weeb purposes, though.
Yeah moon is net slang for japanese.
I've never read a VN in japanese but if you consume japanese media every day and study daily then I'm sure you could start reading them in a year. You'll need tools to help you read kanji, but if you stick to fairly simple games without complicated storylines and plots, I think you could get through them fairly well.
Don' be embarrassed, learning japanese purely for weeb purposes was the best thing I've ever done for myself. It brought me so much joy and entertainment. I've turned more into a normie in the past couple years and haven't had the chance to read BL like I used to, but I don't regret a second of the fun it brought me. Actually, life was way more fun and exciting when I was a weeb who only read BL and watched japanese 2.5D musicals. >>168274
Yeah, that's why I asked. I've only read a couple but the reactions here seem exaggerated. It really wasn't that different from regular BL.
Oh, great, thanks for the encouragement! Weeb shit has honestly been one of the few joys in my life as of late so I think it will be worth it, really. Maybe it'll give me some structure for once, too lol. Maybe I'll finally be able to watch those Takarazuka Revue musicals.
I'm currently devoting about 30 minutes per day for study until I get out of school for the semester and will increase it after that.
Forgot to reply when I saw it but I like the left side better. Saint Seiya yaoi doujinshi helped CLAMP kickstart their career, to this day I don't get why Kurama/Hiei is a popular ship but I love both characters, and Toya/Yukito is canon so it's not even fujobait. Even 7 years old me understood that Toya and Yukito were into each other when I read the manga when it got released in my country, that's how obvious it is and I didn't even know homosexuality was a thing.
I don't give a shit about new releases because I'm always expecting big series to either turn to shit or to never have an ending anyway.
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is anyone watching this? it has a good art direction but it seems like it doesn't have much of a plot
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I do. Story is pretty lackluster imo. But in terms of fujo bait, damn it exceeds any expectations. Man, they even threw in some sweet home alabama moments..
this was so cute despite it being incestuous.
i was confused because it was tagged as shota on some sites. i’m assuming that’s because of some of the panels that are drawn in a chibi art style?
>>168530>do they have ship wars like in the west?
Definitely. I've seen them be vicious bitches about it kek. >how do they react to canon couples or the canon female love interest, do they just ignore them or trash talk them?
I think they just don't give a shit about the female love interest. Recently there's definitely been a trend of making the girl cheer their OTP on.
My experience with the JP fandom is limited but there have been JP-based anons here who have offered great insight on the subject so I'll leave it up for them to describe everything in more depth. I've understood that most of the drama centers around doujin circles being catty with each other and drama about things like art theft, not the subject matter itself.
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I think as a teen I watched every single available one on youtube but many have bad endings or like >>168540
said don't look cute enough. 7 days was perfect tho imo, super wholesome, I rewatched it at least twice. Ai no Kotodama is oldish but also very sweet, their chemistry is really believable.
A while ago I got into chinese bl novels and I also really enjoyed the (very few) drama adaptions because the actors are super handsome.
based and true>>168539
I've seen this happen a lot and to be honest I understand it, the dynamic changes entirely when you change which one bottoms. With a ship like Bakugo and Deku someone insisting on Deku topping would be an absolute turn off for me.
I don't know the inner workings of circles in Japan, but from what I've seen from fans at events, online and on a personal basis…>do they have ship wars like in the west?
These do exist, but as >>168588
mentioned, Japanese fujos tend to be very good about actively avoiding what they dislike, which is why there's always a huge thing about naming conventions for ships online - first of all, so they don't bleed over to the mainstream (fujos tend to not want to impose on "normal" fans) and second of all so there are terms that can be blocked on Twitter. I've seen artists post about complaints they've gotten for not properly mentioning the ship in their tweets, about reposting stuff with a different ship than what they draw themselves, etc. etc. There are some very very fragile fujos out there who will not tolerate anything but their ship. >>168551
I really want to see my husbando top. But I'd never fight with anyone about a fictional character.
Reminds me of that scene from Kiss Him Not Me where the two fujos fight over top/bottom. 1:18 timestamp
Speaking of which, these two should've gotten together. Tfw no fujo gf.
, all western production is shit, especially the romance genre.
>>168955>stinky aidens like you >like you
How did you even get that from my post? I'm a real woman and the guys I'm talking about are real men who are into other real men, they're just gay weaboos and I was shocked that real guys could actually be into this shitty pairing.
>until they insert a gender autist girl into the main couple
Actually I was thinking about the same thing just based on a gif I saw in one of the FTM threads, it's from a Netflix show according to some anons, it was basically was you described. Some girl on T was calling a gay man a faggot and saying that it's none of his business if she has a vagina because she's still guy, and anons said the two characters end up dating anyway. No idea what the title is because I don't use Netflix.
NTA obviously but holy shit this happened? Netflix keeps hitting new garbage lows whenever I turn my head. Western produced shows truly are the worst. I don't even get why they would cater to such an audience, contrary to what the spergs in the fakeboi thread imagine the homophobic FTMs who demand an access to gay spaces are extremely rare at least compared to AGP MTFs who invade lesbian communities since they're all trans 4 trans Aidens, I can't imagine this going over well especially because cis gay men are higher up on the totem pole than lesbian women and FTMs. >>168989
This perplexes me to no end because as far as I've understood the gay danmei novels are filled with graphic sex and even male on male rape but it's clearly against the censorship rule in China, how the fuck do they go around it? I've always been sort of undecided about entering that fandom because you never know when it will all be shut down and the author will be sent to the gulags but maybe some CN specialist anon can shed a bit of light on this.
the thing is that if they keep it among themselves they're fine, but some losers and antis who have beef with the authors report it to the authorities and say stuff like "this is a bad influence for minors" to take it down (always the minor card). communism at its finest kek
this is how they banned ao3, xiao zhan's fans were offended by a gay fanfic and mass reported it
Chinese antis are a special breed, in the west you'll get fired from your job but at least you won't be detained by authorities and given a prison sentence for writing about gay anime men. Equally horrible were all the people lashing out against him but like >>169010
said that's pretty much the only place they can direct their anger towards. The Chinese society is awful and with all the censorship laws in place I would absolutely hate being a content creator there. It's too risky to produce anything that's not about praising Xi Jinping and the communist party.
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Anons I just 100%'d Room no. 9 and have to talk about it somewhere, this game was a lot (but I fully enjoyed it). Any thoughts? I rushed through the endings and made my way to the true end after experiencing all the other bad ends first so it too felt like a bad end to me, but after giving it some time and replaying the final scenes of the true end, I really feel like this is the best and most realistic ending for them. But I still wish they could've shown just one scene of them removed from the situation far enough in the future and how their relationship progressed and moved on from it, but I suppose not showing it is part of having an open ending I'm going to be thinking about this game for a long time to come lol, just like how sweet pool stuck around in my head until now since the first time I played it 6-7 years ago.
i really enjoyed the the hurt/comfort parts where they were forced to cut up and take care of each other.
something about it felt special to me
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I'm going to be a cruel bitch, but i'm loving the latest korean spoilers of ENNEAD. I like Seth and hope for him to have a happy ending, and he suffered a lot at the hands of the rest of the cast… but his worst crimes were against innocent humans, and he never answered for that. He legit deserves everything that happens this chapter. And the twitter meltdown is the funniest shit.
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I don't think its possible, the cultural factors that led to BL even existing as a concept were unique and could never emerge from either the West or the Muslim world, only in the east asian sphere was the groundwork set
>The General "don't ask and don't tell" attitude regarding homosexuality >The Pre-existing concept of "love" between older male/younger beautiful male(as long as that love is temporary and both get wives and have children at the end)>General sex segregation that never really went away
sorry i have to talk about your picrel>Oh! I love them! I HC them as trans!
what an insane thing to say. it's just so unnecessary, stupid and makes no sense at all. it's like looking at a character and saying that you headcanon them as wearing a wig out of fucking nowhere, without there being any hints at all. and you're supposed to feel sorry for the poor uwu tiffy there because she can't smear her inferiority complex on everything. sorry gay men won't fuck you and straight men won't either because your mental illness makes you unbearable.
>>169451>The only time I'm actually bothered is when a straight FTM wants to self-insert and turn the setting into a heterosexual otome because actual gay sex is gross to her.
I hate that so much, when trying to read self-inserts I avoid anything with “male reader” like a plague, but if you look for literal “vaginal fingering” they will put their ayysonas as guys with vaginas and it’s annoying, it’s such a turn off.>Oh yeah, Roberto, I, Naruto am fingering your pussy, we’re gay men btw, so queer.
I hate it so much.
And they are quite annoying with the whole “muh cwomfort character is trans like me uwu” but of course, they don’t go apeshit like the males in dresses, because of actual female socialization, but they passive aggressively post retarded memes and stupid ass comments like “girl I- um- oh- wait- stop-“ I hate it too.
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lets not devolve into this, I think culturally what's considered normal and "god" in the west is a bit different from the rest of the world
I posted in another thread but men in my third world african country literally walk around holding hands, they hug each other and kiss each other one the cheeks but they would beat and lynch any man if they knew he was gay
homosexuality is viewed as so unnatural that If you see two men holding hands and think "they might be gay." cause homosexuality is considered a non-thing really
In the West , it's more of a tell, so people avoid it for fear of looking gay.
It's fujobait, a lot of shows do this. The main offenders are shit like HxH, Haikyuu etc. Japanese fujos buy merch for their ships and it's very profitable. >>169463
No one cares about real life men. Yaoi men are written by women.
because of narcissism and projection.
90% of aidens are just weeaboos who think they can become their fav anime boy or reenact their bl fantasies with some poor faggot(or each other)
this shit doesn't happen in japan so your point? no one does this outside of middle schoolers who see it as a fun joke. salarymen, adults, they don't do it
and i was talking about muh special amazing soulmate bond not skinship
Disagree on the west. There was Kirk/Spock fanfic in the late sixties, and you could technically call Mary Renault a fujoshi. Gay shipping is just something some nerdy women do.
I think it's uncommon in Islamic countries because of how homophobic their culture is and how women there are strongly discouraged from expressing their sexualities. If they were more secular like the U.S. or Japan, you'd probably see fujos there too. I've also met a ton of Russian fujoshis in recent years.
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most women who are normies don't give a shit but find it strange, I think its mostly SJW-Liberal
It's not a yes or no question, for some people it is
that deep. A lot of lesbian fujos found their sexuality by connecting with other girls via fujo stuff, almost all weeb lesbians I know today got their first girlfriend that way. And naturally because the female sexuality is repressed a lot BL does hold a deep meaning to a lot of women who want to explore their own sexual preferences and relationship needs in a way that doesn't sexualize, objectify or judge women in any way. If you're just one of those "I just like looking at hot men lol" types then great but BL was originally born from a need for female liberation and sisterhood and that's what it is for plenty of fujos even today.
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is there anyone sharing/selling scans of bonus leaflets?
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This one is about a slutty camboy and a jaded tired journalist for a gossip magazine.
Two chapters already translated on MD, totally recommended.https://mangadex.org/chapter/079726c7-2fae-4fe9-af8a-b47bf90d33a4/6
are you still up to talk about RN9
I finished the game earlier this year and had my fills of discussing spoilers with my friendwhat stuck out for me was how the two of them would never develop into legit romantic relationship. IIRC even in the true ending, it was more about them just appreciating each other for being alive and still remained the bro4life status.
now I think back again, the writing was pretty smart in keeping their relationship meaning without devolve too much into tropey romantic sentimentality.
I had read some short stories from the magazine (I forgot the name), where Daichi was nostalgic about Seiji being his best friend - despite him being the poor, bastard kid. While seiji was smart and coming from a rich family.
wow i could go in lengths LOL, serious but not serious the unskippable scat scene in every route will never escape my brain
The link doesn’t work nonnie
type the name out?
sorry, i forgot mangadex is blocked in some countries
Obake Yori Kowai Mono by Yukigumi Um
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I agree! I really liked how they write the characters in this game, if they'd gone the lovers ending route
a lot of the immersion would've been destroyed for me, I think.>>169583
Fuck yes anon, I still can't get this shit out of my head and my one friend who knows my degen fujo side is sick of hearing me whine about Seiji. Did you play the game in Japanese by any chance? There's something bothering me and it's an autistically small detail but I'll just repost what I posted in /blog/ on 4chan and unfortunately never got a response to: Also, if someone has the Japanese version, could you tell me what the ending scene (true end) actually says, please? I can read a bit of jp but not enough to play a whole vn and I had a feeling throughout the whole game that the localization was too liberal and may have ruined some of the nuances in the original text. My suspicions were confirmed (?) I found a blog that described the ending as
"It’s time to part and as Seiji almost vanishes Daichi stops him and tells him ‘see you’ and Seiji smiles and returns ‘yeah, see you’. Daichi thinks he saw a shadow pass over his face."
But the English version doesn't mention anything of the sort and just says the door closes as Seiji smiles back.
If you/any other anon could enlighten me on this I'd be very grateful! This has bothered me for days. I unironically picked up my Japanese studies again because this game's localization made me seethe due to how liberal the translations worth. No one will ruin my gay porn with shitty translations again.
Anyway back on RN9, I could go on in lengths about this game too! I don't know why but this game legit embedded itself in my brain and I can't stop thinking about their relationships and imagine what I would do if I was stuck in a situation like that with a friend myself.Once I did that it was pretty easy to see why writing a lover's ending would've been cheap and unbelievable.
I like their friendship a lot! After completing the game, I found these extra art of them hanging out and man the artist did a really good job showing the nuances in their interactions. I…I know I'm over-analyzing a game that's 70% gay porn.
I'm this anon >>169583
omg anon we should add discord or something lol. The game did stuck in my head in a couple of days, I drew a few fan arts too (including lewd ones) but never published them anywhere and only showed to my fellow degen fujo friends.
Would you like to elaborate what you meant by the translation being liberal? I own the JPN copy and only finished route A (?) iirc the one where the two of them got out, seiji went full do-M and daichi basically dead inside
I'd say the translation is pretty accurate, as for expression-wise, I'd say the quality in No, Thank You was been better for me (Which I'm not so sure since it's been Years and my standards have changed since). Clockup games are 70% porn and I understand when translating them could get fatigued quickly.
If you have the exact quotes in Japanese, few free to paste in here and I can interpret it in how I understand it. also because I'm super lazy to go through 12 hours of gay porn to get to that ending again lmao i didn't 100% in the japanese version
IMO when I read Daichi and Seiji dialogues they have a lot kind of casual language whereas I could relate better in my native language (not english), sort of rude-like college students speak to each other. Daichi's inner monologue is filled with envy and admiration towards Seiji, it's INSANE. Seiji's monologue is harder for me to interpret because of bocchan jargons.
Nta but I also played RN9 and while I loved the game's concept and Seiji and Daichi's relationship, the english translation bothered me too. Even aside it being too liberal it's also full of typos and I wonder if the japanese dialoge is as repetitive, for some reason I got really annoyed by Daichi's english monologue saying that "his stomach felt like it was full of lead" SEVERAL times at different occasions kek.
I also really wished the gore was stronger. I felt like Seiji's tasks were a lot worse and creative than Daichi's compare them with pissing, scat, strangling and almost torture and yeah…
. We can't even choose Daichi's last task either, right? And it's the only one that could be truly gory. Idk I went into it expecting both hardcore porn and gore and I was disappointed by the latter.
NTA and I agree with the lack of gore despite the PR (and cover art) was sooo blatant and shameless about it.I and my friends also complained about not able to pick the last option that was the most brutal toward seiji, and could fuck daichi mentally For life and my inner do-S was really rooting for that. The director mentioned that they had to scrap a scenario where they're chained to each other and basically LARPing as dogs as a requirement… Gods I want it so bad.
If you're planning to play lkyt. I heard the torture and gore is much ramped up in it.
I’ve shilled it on /y/ a million times but I really like Asada Nemui’s Living Dead, it’s an ongoing series about a teacher who gets murdered and brought back to life by a scientist. None of the BL scenes have been consensual and it has gore so it’s not for everyone.
I also liked Call by the same mangaka, it’s about a NEET that pretends to be a call boy to get money and free food from a salaryman. Unexpected gay feelings ensue when he starts liking being a top. It’s not translated though.
huge fan of Asada Nemui! That reminds me I need to keep up with her digital book release.
never got to read Call but now I have to check it out. I love the tension in these manga, the art style is unique and moody and really bring well the horror atmosphere they were going for.
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I am in love with 4 Week Lovers. It’s a manhua about two boys, Dojun and Jaehee (picrel) who attended the same high school, and now they go to college together. Jaehee is in love with Dojun and pursues him relentlessly. When Jaehee breaks his wrist/arm saving Dojun from a fall, he basically coerces Dojun into dating him for four weeks as payback (with the ultimate goal of Dojun agreeing to be his boyfriend forever). I’m usually into nasty shit with lots of noncon but this series is so fucking cute, I don’t even know how many times I’ve reread it while waiting for updates. Good art and good porn make him for the meh plot. I think it’s a super cute light read. Currently being translated. An official English release was slated for this past April/May but it never came for some reason. https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/4_week_lover/
I try not to judge but fucking Hell how does anyone tolerate "that" art style
just looking at it give's me headache
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Does this not excite you?
They're really scrapping the best stuff.
And yeah I can't wait for lkyt (or is it actually out already?), the boys all look nice and the setting's great. I'm also planning on playing/looking up a walkthrough of No, Thank you! since many people think it's better than RN9.
everyone seems to enjoy that it ended up in a bros relationship but i was very disappointed lol. after all the sex scenes there would be no realistic way for them to end in good terms anyway
idk it all felt like meaningless sex to me
Can you maybe… write all of your thughts in one single post?
But yeah the body hair was a shock but I really liked it, it's my type of thing you know.
00s fics had a lot of cutting and ed themes because that was what was going on with the writers (and audience). so hot anime men starved and cut themselves. now writers are gaydens so hot anime men are taking hormones and binding. lol. >>169413
as a (worse) alternative, there is /blog/ on /jp/. but there was a nice anon posting matsus in /fujo/ i hope she's doing well.
youre not alone nonna. Even my trans friends are annoyed with the floods of these types of fics everywhere, most are straight up cuntboy
porns without proper tagging. Hell, I can't even go to ao3 to look for a standard mlm fic like the 2000s anymore. I suspect zoomers and kinnies tbh.
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I'm so far removed from fandoms nowadays I just remember the trends that made me stop reading fanfics and paying attention to the most popular headcanons, but the last time I looked from fanfics was when Fire Emblem 3 Houses got released because of Sylvain/Felix and I remember that while the fics with the most kudos were mostly normal, once I checked the last updated fanfics it was fully of Felix untagged trans headcanons. Poor guy just happens to be shorter than the male characters he interacts with the most and he has long hair so it had to happen to him. Even though he 100% looks and acts like a guy and he has a deep voice in Japanese. So I guess this trend is still popular now, and for more and more pairings? Do you think this will ever stop? I miss the days when I read fanfics during my free time but I can't see myself going back to it anytime soon.
said back in the 00s it was all about cutting and emo shit so it's just another trend that will roll over once a new one sets in. Troonism is just today's fashion subculture so once young people will find other ways to express themselves it will take over once more. Back in the day people knew how to tag their dumbass fetishes though, not tagging trans headcanons is absolutely retarded even from a genderspecial point of view since it could ~trigger
the reader's dysphoria~ to have PIV in a gay fic.
Yeah but this whole trans shit is now mainstream and politicized, and it's not just something that only affects teenagers and very young adults. It feels way more invasive than other "trends" and if you say you don't like reading straight sex scenes in a BL fanfic you're accused of wanting to commit genocide against trannies and fakebois.>>169900>i did meet one sylvain rper who was an nb tif and who wanted to rope me into transboi felix but i declined
I'm not surprised, the guys who have the most obnoxious fans are Sylvain (always badly written and woobified in fanfics), Felix (turned into a boring, unfunny tsundere, or into a depressed brocon and nothing more) or Ferdinand (he has long hair after the timeskip so he HAS to be a tranny!!1!). Thank god my husbando Dedue was spared from this mess. Actually I said I saw trans Felix fanfics all the time on AO3 because they weren't tagged but I also saw a bunch of NSFW fanarts like this on twitter, also untagged. I unfollowed so many people after that. It's a shame that this happens to the game that has a famous BL artist as the character designer.
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just started playing dmmd and koujaku's birb is such a baddie kek
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saw this exact scenario play out in the new vegas fandom, Vulpes Inculta is a commander in caesar's legion, he genocides an entire town after crucifying them and likely has slaves that he abuses but on tumblr they've turned into an uwu softboy who was raised to be like this cause he was taken into the legion when he was a child but mainly cause he has a slightly shorter character model
This is a cute picture of Felix, thank you.
I'm still in the 3h fandom, my favorites are Dedue/Dimitri and Ferdinand/Hubert. I've thought about writing fanfics but sometimes it just seems to bleak, like… I wouldn't write about trans shit so I don't think they'd get any recognition.>>169929
Korean and Japanese artists are still regularly producing good fanart for them! There's a lot of them on twitter, you just have to dig around. Pixiv is also a good place but I wouldn't browse there without premium.
my eyes start to dilate the moment i saw "communist manifesto"
what the hell with this intense fetish towards communism, as someone who lives in a communist country that cosplays as socialist. this shit is making me bald.
don't play his route in reconnect.
t. Someone whose favorite boy used to be Noiz
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for real, ntayrt but I told someone how rude it was to prop up communism as some utopic thing when I had my family members tortured to death under our countries commie regime, and you know what they told me this little yank? That it doesn't matter that millions of people died, like wow how heartless and they were 31 btw so not even some dipshit teen. Sorry for the derailing, to contribute I was looking at Slam Dunk and found this - anyone still in the fandom?
What I find most bizarre is when LGBT are the one's advocating for Communism and I'm like WTF, communists considered Homosexuality "bourgeois decadence" and considered it a plight to the working class, this was the position American Maoist faction on Homosexuality
>"Homosexuality is a response – consciously or not – to a male supremacist society. Because it is a response to oppressive institutions and oppressive relationships it is not necessarily a progressive response or one that challenges the power of the monopoly capitalist…. As our relationships become unstable, people – particularly the petty bourgeoisie, which has more leisure time – scramble about in a desperate attempt to find some meaning in their lives. Today people are grasping at all kinds of straws, at exotic religious sects, mysticism, drugs, pornography, promiscuity, sex orgies, trotskyism, etc….. In posing an individual solution to the contradictions of monopoly capitalism, homosexuality is an ideology of the petty bourgeoisie, and must be clearly distinguished from proletarian ideology…. While gay people can be anti-imperialists, we feel that they cannot be Communists. To be a Communist, we must accept and welcome struggle in all facets of our lives, personal as well as political…. We feel that the best way to struggle out contradictions in our personal lives is in stable monogamous relationships between men and women based on mutual lives and respect. Because homosexuals do not carry the struggle between men and women into their most personal relationships they are not prepared, in principle, for the arduous task of class transformation>When homosexuality is raised to a principle, when the banner of 'gay is good' is raised as a strategy for defeaing imperialism, then it becomes a reactionary force retarding the struggle of the working class and of the people as a whole….The only real liberation, the only road to real happiness for homosexuals – like all people caught in the mire and muck of bourgeois decadence – is to eliminate the reactionary, rotting system that drives them to homosexuality; and to build a new society, under the rule of the working class, that promotes working class culture and ideology…in opposition to selfishness, self-indulgence and the decadence of individualism and exploitative relations."
and that was pretty much the standard view around the Communist world
NTA but im so tempted to spoil OP of noiz route of reconnectespecially the CG of when hes sitting down to talk with grandma which ran as a meme in the fandom for weeks, it's so fucking hilarious to me even now
Man I was in dmmd fandom and got a few friends from it but for some reasons I never ran into the drama which seemed to happen constantly at the time. Any of the nonna can recall the instances?
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this would be a beautiful list if that crack self-insert gojo ship didn't exist
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So I finished dmmd! The first time I heard about this game was back in 2013? I was baby and I thought it's supposed to be some sort of "hardcore yaoi" game kek I knew some stuff about it so right now I can't say that I went in fully blind but it exceeded my expectations. I absolutely love the art direction, the emo scene(?) fashion style mixed with y2k is kinda nostalgic. I'm glad it had a solid plot instead of it just being pwp but if i had something to criticize, I wish the individual routes were longer. They felt kinda short and besides Clear's route which had a small gimmick, it was too easy to get the good ending. So yeah I wish that part was more developed… but overall it was really enjoyable and much to my surprise, it had a ton of wholesome moments?? Some of the sex scenes were heartwarming ngl.
My favorite is Clear but i liked Ren's route the most. But I wish I didn't knew his route existed beforehand. It's probably better if you start the game without being aware of any spoilers. Btw Noiz's bad ending was the most shocking part for me cause I didn't expect that amount of gore.Also that pierced dick lol.Koujaku's bad ending was kinda underwhelming.
You know after playing dmmd I wonder why couldn't nitro chiral continue releasing similar BL games. I didn't play slow damage but I don't think it has dmmd's charm…
When wokies talk about communism they mean an utopian dream where they can laze around in a queer communal mansion where all housework is done by someone else, their bourgeois hormone and surgery treatments are paid by the state and the only thing they're expected to "contribute" to society is posting hot takes on twitter and hawking shitty Aliexpress jewellery with trans flags. Not the kind where they would be assigned to a factory job and receive food rations kek. Capitalism deserves criticism but these people are just a different shade of selfish ultraconsoomerism.
sage because why the fuck are we talking about communism in the BL thread
>>170138>You know after playing dmmd I wonder why couldn't nitro chiral continue releasing similar BL games. I didn't play slow damage but I don't think it has dmmd's charm…
I've seen some gameplay of Slow Damage and I agree, so far it doesn't have the same charm. Doesn't help that all the love interests seem kinda bland and the edgy aesthetic isn't for me.
But I'm glad you enjoyed DMMD anon! It will always have a place in my heart not only because of the degenerate memes but because it's just so unique and weirdly wholesome compared to other BL games.
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Just in case you didn't know, there was a new volume of Oni to Tengoku called 鬼と天国 再 released in Japan today!
In the author's notes in the back it is mentioned there'll be at least one more after this one.
They're still super cute together, though since they're officially dating there's of course less power dynamic stuff going on. But they still both have issues so it's fine.
talking about badly scans manga. I remembered awhile back on MRM there would be a trend of scanslations where a page suddenly got repeated in a middle of a chapter because a fan contributor wanted to color that page. It was really disruptive to the pace. Not to mention other intrusive "T/N: X character is so hot 0///0" which just pissed me off.
This is why I stopped going to MRM for a couple of years now and just buy directly from mangaka, especially when magazine ebooks are more available now than before.
I mean dislike playing those types of games in general, If there was a matchmaking dating simulator game where you pair of different people, I'd happily play it
but activelt being one character, reading dialogue, its just tedious and not my cup of tea
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name a bigger cuck
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>>170246>If there was a matchmaking dating simulator game where you pair of different people, I'd happily play it
Kitty power’s matchmaker is the only thing I could think of, and it’s pretty much just a shitpost game.
Shiki was annoying as fuck, literally the only good thing about him is Hikaru Midorikawa. He'd be cool and edgy if he were a standard antagonist in a more family friendly JRPG maybe, but the whole route being about rape got old very fast and the really shitty endings made me feel like I wasted my time, especially the one where he's brain dead because he finds killing people boring or some shit.
Motomi and Keisuke have the best routes imo.
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>>170619>not watching togainu no chi for Rin
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New VN with the hashihime artist, praying this gets a translation because fang boi is a QT.
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I have read over 200 BL manga this year. I'm going to hell.
You can find the whole list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_26IlWIXomL3MPjww3kA9s9tp5PytSXOKwtF2wH-yNk/
The ones I liked are marked with ❤︎ in this post. Post picture is ❤︎ 素人ヤンキー♂危機一発！！ Shirouto yankii ♂ Kiki ippatsu!!
可愛いから君がわるい Kawaii kara kimi ga warui 稔ねんこ Nen Nenko
Twins (male and female) have a childhood friend. Male twin thinks childhood friend is into female twin, but childhood friend is actually into male twin. Hijinks. Boring hijinks. idk.
未熟なトローチ Mijuku na Troche 水城ゆたか Mizuki Yutaka
Medical intern is goaded into using a thinly veiled compensated dating app, believing it to be an app for young people to find a mentor. He meets with a high school student who is dreaming of studying medicine and they very slowly begin a relationship. This was actually pretty nice and very wholesome.
❤︎ かじつ Kajitsu 阿部はちた Abe Hachita
Two boys used to be step-brothers before their parents divorced. One visits the other over the summer and admits his feelings to him. The setting was quite nice, they're located in Okinawa, and I liked the pace of the story. The boys look pretty young, but that's just the art style.
❤︎ けものあそび Kemono Asobi もちの米 Mochino Kome
Boy from a god family is actually aroused by pain. Creeps his way into a delinquent's life. This was actually pretty cute, I like when mean guys are actually just hurt (uwu).
俺のおにくちゃん Ore no Oniku-chan もちの米 Mochino Kome
Popular uni student from a good family used to be fat and ugly, but isn't anymore. When he was fat, a kid from school used to spend time with him, but hasn't contacted him since his graduation. They meet again, with uni student now being hot, but turns out the school friend is actually into fat people. Kind of weird, but fun enough.
エッチなことおしえてください Ecchi na koto oshiete kudasai 晴屋うまこ Hareya Umako
Tale as old as time: Virgin goes to prostitute to learn about sex, actually falls in love with prostitute. No surprises, but good enough.
シュガーとマスタード Sugar to Mustard はなさわ浪雄 Hanasawa Namio
Dom/Sub Universe. Sub is matched with a Dom who was socialised as a sub (something about there not being enough subs to go around) and decides to make him into his perfect Dom. Cute.
Introduction Introduction 春田 Haruta
Collection of short stories. Model falls in love with his editor (which is the one I bought this for) / two high school boys confess their love / dry cleaner falls in love with a customer / University student falls in love with another student who is into photography / guy is cheated on by his girlfriend with his best friend, goes to a club, gets consoled by a guy's dick / Delivery man gets it on with another delivery man who has a delivery staff uniform fetish / Assistant is in love with the author he assists. These varied quite a bit in how much I liked them, but that's always the risk with anthologies like this.
かわいいは僕のキズ Kawaii wa boku no kizu 如月マナミ 無理薫 Kisaragi Manami / Muri Kaoru
Two guys with a problem many LC users share: They are just too pretty. So they hide their faces in uni, but a crowded train demasks them to each other and they start getting closer. Actually pretty cute, even though the premise is as believable as Santa.
Hate my MIA! Hate my MIA! 人鳥ぺんぎん Hitotori Pengin
Dude masturbates to the softcore porn pictures his co-worker uploads, actually loathes said co-worker though. They end up fucking and falling in love, but somehow it's a snooze fest.
新芽のふたり Shinme no Futari 本間ぴるぱ Honma Pirupa
Two idols can't stand each other. Because one of them is photographed leaving a hotel with a woman, he is put on house arrest, with the other supervising him. They start having sex to alleviate sexual desire but later start dating. The other story is about an assistant director who works with an actor he's a fan of. Pretty standard stories but cute enough.
年下彼氏は宅配のお兄さんです。 Toshishita Kareshi wa Takuhaibin no Oniisan desu. 湯本みこ Yumoto Miko
Several short stories: A longhaired guy and his delivery company boyfriend, a gay guy who wakes up after having slept with his neighbour not remembering the events of the night, one guy in love with his childhood friend, a teacher with his former student. Sweet enough but didn't leave much of an impression.
見つけたボクのオメガ様 Mitsuketa boku no omega-sama 夏のティー Natsuno Tea
ABO. Omega used to be super cocky before being mercilessly bullied for being Omega, gets approached by former elementary school class mate Alpha. Alpha tries to make Omega fall for him and to make him cocky again. This was interesting as a thought experiment on what would happen in ABO realistically once the categorization is revealed, but other than that I didn't care for any of the characters.
❤︎ イキガミとドナー Ikigami to Donor 山中ヒコ Yamanaka Hiko
Sci-Fi in which countries fight wars with superpowered Ikigami, humans who can't be hurt by knives or explosions, are extremely strong and can fly. However, when they get hurt, normal medicine can't help them - they need a matching donor, who can heal them with bodily fluids (you know where this is going). A school teacher becomes the donor for an Ikigami. Surprisingly moving, I cried. Would recommend.
捨てないでマイヒーロー Sutenaide My Hero ひもだQ Himoda Q
ABO. Alpha is pursued by Omega he once protected in school, Omega promises to do everything for Alpha and later pressures the Alpha into biting him. Alpha is the uke and the relationship is actually kind of interesting/disfunctional.
先生、我慢できません Sensei, Gaman dekimasen Arinco Arinco
ABO. Alpha who is immune to pheromones teaches at a school for omegas and betas. All the kids in school fall in love with him, but as he doesn't smell the pheromones it doesn't cause him any trouble. Until of course he does smell one kid. Alpha teacher is the uke, but other than that it was kind of boring.
君はアルファ Kimi wa Alpha アサナエアラタ Asanae Arata
ABO. Two boys going to an elite school for Alphas, one turns into an omega by some medical shenanigans. Meh.
怒った顔もエロいです Okotta kao mo eroi desu ウノハナ Unohana
A TV producer who always gets angry at his assistant director at work, but actually they sleep together. The TV producer is afraid of the dark because of some trauma, information the AD first uses to ask him for sex. Nice angry uke. Not completed so far.
❤︎ 社長、おすわりの時間です Shachou, osuwari no jikan desu めがね Megane
Dom/sub. A sub company boss gets a new dom secretary. To stop the boss from having random hookups with doms, the secretary offers to take care of him. Nice dynamic. Incomplete.
❤︎ 素人ヤンキー♂危機一発！！ Shirouto yankii ♂ Kiki ippatsu!! 八百 Yao
Yankii gets roped into doing porn with a popular porn actor. If you like seeing tough guys squirm and cry - 10/10.
エッチな彼氏は雄っぱいが好き Ecchi na kareshi wa oppai ga suki すーざん Suuzan
Personal trainer at a gym is interested in his latest client, turns out the client is interested in him too - especially his pecs. The drawing style isn't really my thing, but other than that it's quite inoffensive.
俺を見て。 Ore o mite. 百瀬あん Momose An
Friends since childhood, one in love with the other who he thinks is straight. One day he sees him kiss a man and decides to take action, and they make out but can't have sex because trauma or something. Two years later, they rekindle their relationship. IDK, the drama seemed quite fabricated and I couldn't really get invested in the characters. This is Momose An's first book, she got better ones.
年上彼氏のヤバイ性癖 Toshiue kareshi no yabai seiheki さばみそ Sabamiso
Young boy is lured into the home of a programmer with promises of video games (it's fine though, the programmer is hot and also the uke) and they start a relationship. The seme is in middle school, so maybe not quite shota? No idea honestly. Uke has a past of abuse. This was actually pretty good. Second story included is of a high schooler with a muscle fetish who gets a classmate to pose for pictures and measurements. Didn't like that one.
カラーにくちづけ Collar ni kuchizuke OOY OOY
Dom/sub universe. Sub was forcibly given a collar when he was in high school and he is unhappy with his relationship. During his job as a babysitter he meets a kind Dom who writes Dom/sub novels. The main couple was pretty cute together. I'll never understand why in BL involving children 5-year-olds are the same size as literal babies.
兄貴の一番おいしいところ Aniki no ichiban oishii tokoro 瑞原ザクロ Mizuhara Zakuro
Twins, one who is very talented with kyudo but useless in basically anything else, and one who has a serious brother-complex and does everything for his brother and is secretly in love with him. idk, I couldn't really get interested in the characters and twincest is maybe not my favourite trope either.
白峰くんはケモノに癒されたい Shiromine-kun wa kemono ni iyasaretai 桃季さえ Momoki Sae
Overworked office worker finds an invitation to a special relaxing space on his desk. Turns out it's a super immersive video game which also has an adult mode. This was so weird and bad, suddenly it turns out there are human/animal hybrids in the real world but also not and one of the office worker's co-workers is some kind of prince or whatever and… head scratch inducing.
今夜ベッドで待っていろ Kon'ya Bed de matteiru 斉川冬 Saikawa Fuyu
Two high schoolers who are dating - they should be so happy, but the seme evades all advances by the uke. Turns out, he's kind of afraid of breaking the small uke with his gigantic dick. As you are. Nice if you're into size differences, the uke was a bit too cute/female-coded for me.
黒猫は狼王子の夢を見るか Kuroneko wa Ookami Ouji no Yume o miru ka 野津ウドン Notsu Udon
Catboy always dreamt of one day finding his prince, finds him in a gay porn actor wolfboy. However when they meet and have sex by plot magic, wolfboy isn't as nice as expected. Catboy was pretty cute.
バイ・マイ・サイド By my Side ナツメカズキ Natsume Kazuki
Grown up childhood friends who live next door to each other, one day one of them sees the other masturbating and calling his name. A bit more realistic take on what would happen in a situation like this, even if both parties are interested. I like BL with grown-ups who react somewhat like actual people.
従順にワンと言って Juujun ni wan to itte 中川カネ子 Nakagawa Kaneko
A weird man comes into the police box of a young police officer at night and violates him (with a pen?!). Turns out the man is a detective of high rank, and he keeps coming to the young police officer. Tone-wise this was pretty weird, at some point they're suddenly in love. Also involves another short story about guys who monitor an experiment in which two guys are put in a room and told that they can only leave after a few days - unless they have sex, in which case they can leave immediately. Also involves another short story in which a couple isn't having sex yet and one of the guys finds onahos in the other's home. The sex parts in general are pretty good, the rest is meh.
教室を出たら俺のモノ Kyoushitsu o detara ore no mono しえろ Shiero
Super popular student is actually having sex with a non-popular classmate. Quite a lot of sex, I found the couple quite cute.
蜜果 Mitsuka akabeko akabeko
Host's boyfriend is the manager of a gay brothel. I don't even know what else to write about it, it's not bad though.
嫌いな上司は秘密のオナフレ Kirai na joushi wa himitsu no onafure KINACO KINACO
Two stories about masturbation in the workplace: Salaryman is found by a coworker after masturbating on the toilet and gets blackmailed into doing sexual things with him (and they of course fall in love because this is BL). Another salaryman wants someone to fuck him, goes to a gay bar, meets his boss, they fuck (and fall in love because this is BL). Kind of standard fare.
後藤さんは俺を買いたい Goto-san wa ore wo kaitai めがね Megane
Man goes into a gay bar and asks a high schooler there to let him buy him. The high schooler reminds the man of his first love. They start sleeping together for money, but of course feelings and whatever. Younger seme and glasses uke, not bad.
チャンネル登録よろしくね Channel touroku yoroshiku ne 三尾じゅん太 Mio Junta
Student has a YouTube account with his girlfriend, after she breaks up with him his friend offers to help out and they end up having a gay couple YouTube channel. This one felt like the writer expected there to be more than one volume, some loose threads and the friend character is implied to be of questionable morality which is never explored.
オオカミくんは俺しかいらない Ookami-kun wa ore shika iranai 美和 Miwa
Good-looking guy who had planned on being popular in high school has stopped growing, wants to learn to be manly to get female attention by copying a classmate. It does not go as expected.
スロー・ラブ・ライフ Slow Love Life 三木原針 Mikihara Shin
Man opens a restaurant in the boonies, gets helped out by a younger guy. They slowly develop a relationship. This was pretty cozy, I liked it.
アイドル君は暴かれたい Idol-kun wa abakaretai 縞ほっけ Shimahokke
Paparazzi is trying to land a scoop, turns out he used to go to the same school as a famous idol. When he meets said idol during his work, he gets invited into the idol's home, gets drunk and they fuck - which the paparazzi obviously tries to use for his big break. I like idol BL, this was pretty standard fare but cute enough.
I pay money for them.
Most I buy digitally on CMOA, some I buy physical copies from second hand stores and some I rent from Tsutaya. I live in Japan so access is not a problem at all
. Which is a problem in itself.
Digitally way over a hundred, physically it's 6 right now. I tend to read them and then sell them again. I read a lot of stuff that's not that great. Not actively bad, but also not something I'll remember. So yeah, I've spent way too much money on shit I didn't enjoy that much, but such is life.
In general I buy by author if I liked something by them before, or if someone recommends something (nonnas in this thread as well!) I'll give it a look. And then of course there are books I buy just by cover or the free samples, and sometimes that can be money down the drain. Chil Chil is also a pretty great resource if you're looking for something specific.
Samefag, there's this rec for both otoge and BL games, I found it on /blog/: https://pastebin.com/dDnYWGem
It's more about manga but there's this one from the BL discussion thread on /y/: https://controlc.com/d35582dd
And then there's that one anon who posts on a regular basis about manga as well: >>171933
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i know this is a old post but thank you for speaking about this, its driven me insane past few months. I really miss the time when fe3h was at its peak hype and the amount of amazing fanfics including felix were coming out in rapid speed. I still love ships including felix but like you said nowadays its all tranny stuff and its common in western side of fanart twitter too. Hes a amazing character and did not deserve this treatment. I hope you can return to fanfics one day again anon
I've finished minakami and kawase's routes and I wish kawase was a bit more brutal with tamamori during their sex scene kek
. But on a more serious note so far it ended up having a ton of unexpected plot twists, it really is a good VN.
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Minkami is the canon route but I’m more into Kawase honestly, probably because he doesn’t baby Tamamori honestly.
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Hi I'm also here to blogpost about my hashihime playthrough, I just finished the first route last night and the biggest thing I noticed was that one of the H CG has Tamamori's foot backwards… Did no one notice? kek In general the faces are fine but the art is really wonky at times. I'll take it though.
I'm looking forward to Kawase's route the most and then the Professor's even though I've heard The first two routes are the best ones. Unfortunately, while the story was quite compelling, Tamamori's voice and personality (at times) annoyed the shit out of me for no discernable reason and while I liked Minakami, I didn't really feel THAT much for him. I'm also generally not a fan of 'muh fated lover reincarnated over and over' shit so it didn't really land for me personally. Now I'm going to go through the rest of the game and think about how I'm basically cucking Minakami in any route that's not his. Also, the hottest guy in the game so far is future Tamamori. What the fuck? I also did not expect to literally make no choices in the game, I went in blind and thought it was a normal VN.
I'll come back with more long thoughts after I finish the next route. Does anyone know if the switch version cut out the sex scenes? The JP trailer states the rating is CERO-D but the English desc of said trailer states 12+. I want to get my fujo friend who doesn't play VNs to play this. Thanks nonnas.
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I honestly never found Tamamori that annoying (aside from the 'I'm not gay but I fuck men' meme he has), I thought he was stupid yes but I genuinely felt bad for him a lot of the time and related to a lot of the stuff he was struggling with especially his whole 'I have no actual friends' stuff.
Anyway here's a cute but silly plushie of him.
thats not true. he has real feelings for kaoru
as well kek
this paired with hanazawa's random rape scene
and tamamori who reads like an early 2000s tsundere uke make me think that the creator is an old school fujo
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I don't have anything to contribute except I'm replaying Pokemon Sun and reminded of how much I love this type of pairing. "Bad boy" getting dominated by a more prim and proper boy.
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>>174221>click the link>search around the site>go to /ex/>’how ‘extreme’ can it be? Probably Omega stuff lol’>immediately greeted with shota shit>immediately close tab
Is this stuff just going to be allowed on the site? I feel kinda grossed out by that tbh
will be fixed when I get in contact with someone good at CSS>>174333
yes, type in the spoiler code for text>>174341
the site is still small with little to no users so far so we kind of lumped things together until there was a need to separate, shota thread is removed and the shota anons will get their own board so they won't post that stuff in other boards, not sure if I should keep it hidden or not though.>>174348>Also how do we know this isn't some shitty honeypot for user IPs?
I do not get anyone's IP, it shows up to me as a long line of text and symbols, even my own, so I cannot read it or use it to dox anyone, we just compare it to see who is samefagging in a malicious way or to keep track of trolls if they appear>>174351>Site is half broken
still fixing many of the issues with the original code as much as I can, would you like to share specific issues you have so I can add them to the list? would appreciate that
The point is fujos producing it aren't doing it with the intention of it being CP, regardless of how you feel about it. This is the same debate as the violent video games one. >>174400
Eh well let's keep it to japanese artists since they're the ones mostly producing bl. I didn't say all of them were into it, but you would be surprised. Women drawing shota or manga with young boys experienced a boom in 2015. All those big fujo and kid's anime also have big female shotacon fanbases. Like I said chances are some of your favorite jp authors are into it too. It's not a big deal.
if someone doesn’t want to fuck children why can’t they look at regular paintings/artwork etc which features children? if you’re looking at sexualised and eroticised artwork of children i’m going to assume you have a certain level of sexual attraction to children. and i think most sane people would think the same. extreme internet and coom brainrot has convinced you otherwise.
if you’re a furry who likes sexualised drawings of animals i’m going to assume you have some level of attraction to animals, if you like artwork that is not anthropomorphic. it’s the same deal. if you have a normal appreciation of animals you can enjoy numerous art of animals that isn’t sexualised.
also bestiality is not as bad as pedophilia in my opinion.
I still stand by the claim that women can't be pedos. If they could, men wouldn't make up 99% of all child abuse cases. Just like women don't become serial killers strangling prostitutes or internet dates just because they have the urge to kill. If I see a moid who's into shota I assume that the FBI should check their hard drive, discord logs and basement immediately, but if I see a woman liking shota? It's repulsive, but ultimately I roll my eyes and leave. I assume she's probably dealing with some sexual distortion and only into shota because they can't hurt or threaten her or she's self-inserting into one and calling her out will probably make her even more messed up. It's a controversial opinion but I will never act as if men and women doing the same thing has the exact same reasoning behind them when women, according to all possible statistics, are not violent or degenerate as men.
As for the anons (mostly outside of this thread but I know they lurk) calling slender teenage boys "shotas", stop muddying the conversation. Some fujo liking a 18-year old twink is not pedophilia.
I think the problem is that you think they see them as real children. To me they simply don't, they look like anime boys. Anime boys don't act or look like real people. I think most fujos make a clear distinction between 2D and 3D.
I mean, I also do not like real gays or support them in the slightest despite loving BL. A lot of fujos are like that too. What I see in anime/manga is just not comparable to real life.
But I don't blame you. Not all people into shota think like that, (specially outside of Japan) and I would also be wary until finding out how they see it. >>174455
It depends. Furry is a western thing so they don't have this autistic perception of 3DPD. They also try to live their fantasies irl with furrsuits and always have weird child related fetishes like diapers and wetting. I would not trust them same as I wouldn't trust a fujo with a life size anime boy doll.
>>174485>I mean, I also do not like real gays or support them in the slightest despite loving BL. A lot of fujos are like that too.
Speak for yourself, despite the misogyny in gay circles I still support anyone's right to be homosexual and gay men aren't inherently bad because they're gay, their misogyny is based on being men and born into male entitlement. Catty HSTSs and IRL twinks who seethe over bio vaginas and call them fish smelling stinks because straight men won't fuck them are a subset despised even by other gay men because they're petty and bitter. That's why they lust after straight men specifically and experience jealousy over women.
I do agree that the male characters in BL are not at all comparable to real life moids and more akin to women in male bodies but going as far as to claiming that "no fujos support irl gay men" is some thinly veiled homophobia instead of valid
manhate. Some anons on this site really tell on themselves when their main problem seems to be with t4t aidens and gay men.
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the moment anon comments on ugh ew shota on an external fujo imageboard and thread has escalated into another unhinged discussion that could've taken place on twitter. i am so tired.
unrelated topic, any anon here have any cringe BL webtoon to recommend. I recently ran into this one called Authentic Gay Education (which is, surprisingly written by YD - Blindplay author). There are only three chapters scanlated and it's absolutely garbage.
okay drama related but YD got her twitter suspended earlier this month because of antishippers and it's so fucking funny
So many bad takes in one post, Christ. While liking shota isn't a crime, it's gross and I'm going to judge you for it.
Hating gay people while jerking off to them is moid behavior. While gay men in real life obviously aren't much like the characters in BL, they're still human beings that deserve to be treated fairly, ffs. Also, not all of us are NEETs who are repulsed by real life men, don't project your femceldom on the rest of us. I like drawings of hot guys and photos of them, cope. >>174490
If I didn't know better, I'd assume anon was a moid, but she probably just lives in a third world country or something kek.
The point is I make a clear difference between 2D and 3D, like a lot of other fujos do. To me no anime boy of any age looks or acts anything like a real person, so that's why I don't equate shota to real CP.
Also I made sure I said not ALL fujos are like this so please read more carefully. >>174540
I don't hate men (I have a bf), or gays. I simply have no reason to like them just because I like anime boys. They are two different things.
You do understand that "I don't hate gays, I just don't like them" isn't a very convincing statement? Either you're ESL and aren't coming across clearly enough or you're just an idiot.>>174577
Shit bait, leave
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Gay shit is hot regardless of whether it's 2D or 3D. If you're seething at IRL gays when you could be happily watching them make out, I feel bad for you. Gay rights also means more media with men kissing in it, and I fail to see how that's a problem.
nta but I know for a fact that IRL gay scrotes are disgusting and more likely degenerate, plus IRL gay sex seems unappealing asf
fecal matter and the disgusting terms they use(bussy, daddy, babyboy) and I just give up
I prefer 2d males or 2d depictions of 3d males
I mean. Yeah men are gross. Sometimes that's part of the appeal, though. Sometimes you want some dirty boys being all sloppy with each other.
I really don't understand why people have so many hang-ups about anal. Just do prep and/or wear a condom. Plus there are plenty of other ways two men can have sex, and there are actually gay men out there who don't like anal themselves. Seems like kind of a dumb thing to judge people for.
hate anything involving real human asses, just the thought it makes me wanna hurl
I'm not an autist, I understand that 2D is fiction and the males depicted are nothing close to actual human beings
Its not that hard to comprehend
I'm the anon who posted >>174697
, I just think she's based, just because I share her opinions doesn't mean I'm her, the fact you had to imply she's samefagging just so you could defend your 3DPD homos is just weird, just let her be and stop playing activist, moids wouldn't do this shit for anyone as far as I'm concerned. This is a thread for fujos not for members of the 3D gay defense squad, go back to Twitter.
Sorry anon but seeing how many fujos are lesbians the homophobia won't fly. This has been seen so many times before, it starts with the palatable "I just hate gay males because I hate all moids, it's only fair" plea and then advances to "actually fuck all IRL gay people" soon enough. >inb4 "I'm a lesbian myself I just hate faggots!!!! uwu"
Yeah right. This "fags are all degenerate misogynists" rhetoric is some underage k-pop avatar polilez shit. Take this retardation to /ot/.
>>174841>seeing how many fujos are lesbians the homophobia won't fly
Being homophobic towards males
homos is not discrimination against female
homos, lesbians are okay, gay males are degenerate, cope faghag.
>>174501>got her twitter suspended earlier this month because of antishippers
no, she got banned because she doxxed and contacted the parents of someone who was scanning/translating/uploading YD's manhwa online on instagram. Not to mention the threats of lawsuits and monterary compensation.
She was absolutely fucking wrong for that, but the scanlator should've stopped uploading after the first request, too.
I'm not fond of "cuntboys"(just the name makes me wanna throw up) but I somewhat get it with regards to BL
The "Yaoi Hole's" of BL characters function more like well cunts then assholes, It wouldn't be that big of a leap to go from that to actual functioning Vaginas
It was done with Yuri on Ice already and people still refused to believe Yuuri and Victor were gay despite getting fucking engaged kek or tried to find whatever problematic
crumbs they could to bitch about it
Okay? It was a worldwide success even hyped up by western ice skating professionals and beloved by even people who normally aren't interested in BL and opened up the gates for more animated gay content. And like >>174896
said Chinese fujos are printing money with Danmei and taking over the world with it, a lot of them have gotten worldwide English translated releases. What the fuck more should be done? People will hate fujos and fujo content no matter how popular it becomes and people will continue to find things wrong with it because homophobia and misogyny exists in the root of society. People hate the thought of women having something that can't be sexualized and appropriated by men and that's only meant for female enjoyment so they try to shame them into submission. That's why China banned pretty boys, men were seething over women being "brainwashed" by all these beautiful boys into raising their expectations for regular men and demanding more pandering for women only. The problem isn't fujos being lazy because fujos have one of the most active, productive small community even to the point Comiket was originally an event with a majority of fujo women organizing it but of course they had to be fucked over by pedo moids cooming to lolis just out of spite. It's absolutely not fair to accuse them of "not doing enough".
jp is better at sex scenes, young romance, and fulfilling every niche.
danmeis are good at writing entertaining stories with a dash of bl(the sex scenes are kinda trash fuck you jinping)
late af, I was excited for this too but this is a no for me as well. Some shit needs to be banned on sight instead of tolerated, not even for ‘containment’ purposes. >>174893
Serious goals. It’s worth it for this >>174894
alone, there is nothing funnier than the nohomo audience trying to cope for enjoying something like that.
idc about the west i just like the surprise factor of a gay ship becoming canon. i watched mirai nikki expecting it to be just scrote pandering and the gay kiss came like a shock, not saying that it was a canon ship but the kiss itself
i mean it's kinda cool if it's unexpected you know?
Late post but this, gay men are no better or worse than straight men. They just don't have a woman there to tard wrangle them most of the time like straight scrotes do>>174870
I enjoy a good het pairing now and then, but dear god so many het shippers are god awful. I've seen (adult, as in 30+)fanboys have total meltdowns over fujos shipping their favorite self-insert MC with another dude instead of their preferred female character so many times, it's insane
YA novels are probably the closest Western equivalent to BL. you can find tons of novels of varying quality featuring gay relationships, especially as over the past few years there’s been a boom in popularity of this type of content. to name a few (not all of these are strictly YA but have gained popularity with teens) the raven cycle, six of crows, all for the game series, red white and royal blue, the song of achilles, carry on trilogy, heartstopper graphic novel series, dark rise, the mortal instruments, i’ll give you the sun, tim te maro and the subterranean heartsick blues, aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe.
the biggest issue at the moment is aidens writing self insert stories where one of the characters is FTM therefore making the gay relationship a straight one. probably most of the main demographic for these books don’t think of it that way but I do and I tend to avoid them.
netflix does tend to put gay couples in everything but not to the extent that you could call any of their shows the equivalent of say, a live action thai BL series.
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hey nonas, i randomly found this series online, i never watch yaoi but i am super into this type of pairing! does anyone have more recs for something like this, with both characters being very contrasted to each other? i especially love a big muscular man with a twink.
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read this a few days ago and i've never been one to read purely porny yaoi, but i'm really impressed. i'd loved to see other nona's opinion on this persons work
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I know you've probably already read this.. but in case to haven't already .. what do I know !https://manta.net/series/1293
Yeah this is just I don't know too, too feminine I guess
It feels like Yuri then Yaoi
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This show is amazing, I don't know how more people haven't fallen in love with it a dozen times over.
Why do you keep comparing danmei to non-BL content? Kuroshitsuji and Sk8 aren't BL. And of course BL doesn't get made into a high-budget anime, no crusty boomer producer wants to show two men kissing. The only reason why the Chinese novels gets animated adaptations in the first place is that they censor all the gay away so that it fits censorship rules in China.
I swear current-wave fujos only into danmei and Korean webtoons have never even read Japanese content, novels or comics, and base their views on fanfics, hearsay and the smut doujins they read at 15, not legitimate BL series.>>175053>>175054>>175054>>175061
Fucking sage your shit and put it in the same post, this isn't twitter. Are you underage or just retarded?
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I strongly agree. Good lord I agree so hard. All the petty grumpyness just.. can we just leave it and have a good time my God.
"No!! You can not have a good time because I hate fag pairings"
Like chill and masterbate okay there's something for everyone. I don't know why it's hard to love both as long as they're done really well.. Either way screw moids, Look at things that will piss them off either way and enjoy it. It's priceless.
Het ships are shit, otome is shit, I have literally no interest in either. I really don't understand why these things are being discussed in the fujo thread and we are being demanded to express solidarity with yumes and hetshippers who always treat fujos like something they scraped off the bottom of their soles, and on the top of it all people are bitching about Japanese BL being "uninspired" and talking about "hot bisexual MMF threesomes". I miss Gangrape-chan and her contributions to the thread.>>175079
This, I can just stay away from degenerate pedo moids by not liking stuff directed towards pedo moids but I can't ignore the straight bitches who force their scrote pandering self insert het ship on me and repeatedly call me a misogynist for preferring a m/m ship to that despite being a lesbian. Fuck all this performative "let's just be friends uwu" crap when at the same time fujos are always the only ones being expected to bend a knee.
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It's not real either way, so how could it possibly matter. This may be difficult to hear but you can't control what fujoshis/yumejos put online, you're just going to make yourself bitter.
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Maybe leave room for vagueness enough to assume the best about say… Someone like me who might exist because I also love BL.
Pretty much, imagine how it went down if a fujo went to /otogen/ only to talk about gay shit and how anons' number 1 husbando would actually prefer a fat cock up his ass. She would be called every name in the book and driven away and even I can admit that's a justified reaction seeing how it's contrary to the topic of the thread. But here in /fujo/ we always have to deal with this "p-please stop bullying hetshippers/yumes we're all friends here" crap because they can't stand the thought of having one place where people don't give a shit about how much they want to personally fuck a dude. If you're a yume/hetshipper then fine but at least have the common courtesy of posting only m/m here.
To start off with, why should I humour them when all we get in return is them accusing fujos of imaginary pedophilia and misogyny all the time? My patience has been worn out ages ago and the recent /ot/ infight of spergs placing the blame of /ex/'s pedoshit at every fujo's feet here didn't do anything to remedy it.
And for a TV animation the animation was fucking top notch, a lot of the more jumbled ones were fixed for the BluRay release seeing how they were under time constraints for the TV airing. It was phenomenal during its time and treated a gay couple like a regular romance with great writing not only with the relationship between Yuuri and Victor but also the pains of a competitive career and the artistry of ice skating. Anon going literally "ugghhh like, gaaagggg
, why does it look like thaaaaat???" is so retarded it makes me wonder if someone is camping this thread just to bait people.
NTA but holy shit newfag, put your retarded YOI shitposts to one fucking reply and stop shitting up the thread.>>175092
Then fuck off and stay in your lane instead of acting like you're any better than weebs, you're on a gossip website that only exists because weeby cosplayers wanted to talk shit about each other to the point they got kicked off 4chan, retard. Eat shit.
YOI was based af even by regular sports anime standards, focusing on adult pro athletes instead of low stakes highschool sports really sets it apart. Also the drunken banquet is unironically one of the best romcom plot twists I've seen, perfectly executed in that you never saw it coming but makes total sense in retrospect, and it was so absurdly hilarious and romantic at the same time.
Obviously it had it's flaws and limitations, the animation was inconsistent, they couldn't go all out on the romance, but you can just tell how much love for the sport and characters was poured into it by the creators. Watching as it aired was a seriously fun wild ride, I miss it.
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I'm not responding to what you think I am. I couldnt care more or less about niche preferences. Earlier when I was here someone compared Yuri on ice to an anime that could change the genre.. for the better.. like from the ground up. As something that took itself seriously enough to do so, and I just disagreed. To me personally yes it is horrible. I would rather read BL most cases but I love some of the art out there do death.
Though I guess flamboyance exists on a spectrum, some of it is just a lot and some of it just isn't.
No I just hate that there is no preview button. I'm really ocd about it.
The point I'm responding to hasn't changed, its exactly the same. I just don't think artists that made ..that crap.. really took it or themselves as seriously as you think.
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nonas pls don't fight, we don't have to turn on each other. that's what the bitter moids would want
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Speaking of Harry Potter something I always found kind of funny was how little Ron would get shipped with anyone, there were certainly some ships of him but compared to the library's worth of content for just one paring in the Fandom, Ron wasn't even discussed that much despite being part of the main trio
I think it was likely due to the fact that Rupert Grint wasn't particularly good looking
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Posting my favorite official BL /co/ moments
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Wolverine from Earth-12025 who is canonically gay and is in a relationship with Hercules
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This is earth-616 Hercules, he's bi-sexual
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Why are homoerotic shounen friendships and bait shounen-ai ships so superior to canon pairings?
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>Went on tumblr for the first time in ages just for fun, thought I'd check in on what the young'ins are doing in my old/current fandoms
>Non-stop bitching about fujos from fakeboi gaydens calling themselves MLM achillean faggots who send death threats to other 15 year old girls for shipping two dudes together without changing their pronouns to he/it first
>"pro-shippers" support fujoshis, but only because they think anti-fujo rhetoric is TERFy(lmao) and openly talk about how anti-fujos are preventing future fakebois from finding their true gay male selves through explicit BakuDeku fanfiction
>Moids and obnoxious yumejos/hetshippers still relentlessly harass any and all fujos, but now under the guise of wokeness
Makes me glad that I'm in my late 20's, being a young fujo today seems way worse than it was back in the day. In the late aughts/early 2010s all we had to worry about was there being like one Japanese speaker available to translate doujins and the occasional moid meltdown, not other girls doxing you for being a fetishistic homophobe because you're a girl who thinks Male Character A and Male Character B are cute together, kek
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Because they get to actually have a proper friendship, whereas het pairings are usually just a thing because "she was a girl, he was a boy" or sth.
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Because the things you create with your own imagination will always be more fulfilling to you personally than the same ideas executed by someone else. It's why a good mystery is often more enticing than a direct, concrete answer. A lot of slash shippers are like dogs chasing cars– we don't know what we'd do if the ship was actually made canon, because in many ways, the wanting it to be is the fun part. Imagining all the different ways the ship could play out is the fun part, and sometimes being given a concrete, canon depiction makes it a little less fun.
Also, the existing, assumed-to-be-straight main characters are often more fleshed out than the token gay side characters. It's more fulfilling to ship characters that are dimensional and fully realized, which is why the most popular slash ship in a fandom is typically the two characters with the most lines or screentime. This isn't to say there are no
stories where two main characters end up in a gay relationship, but they're pretty rare.
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Friendship between men and women is not as common in Japan as elsewhere. In contrast there's a sports club culture in the schools that puts basically boy-only and girl-only groups together for a prolonged time and forces them to forge strong bonds.
Writers only write what they know, most of the shonen series are written by men, and so they write scenes of friendship that can seem over the top loyal and inspire fujos everywhere.
See: "If you die, I'll kill you" and "Save me first" and tons of other lines in JJK.
Also, what >>175214
said. The amount of different scenarios these people come up with is amazing. "What if Itadori was a firefighter and Fushiguro was a veterinarian and they were both 25 and met and fell in love?!" is a whole genre of Yuji/Megumi shipping. Basically the characters are ripped out of the original work and plugged into all kinds of BL story devices.
I can't read "MLM" as anything other than "multi-level marketing."
Anyway, I honestly think gaydens are a bigger scourge to fujoshis than lolifags are, if only because it's obvious that they're self-hating fujoshis who want every other fujoshi to hate herself. Aidens basically cannibalize their own kind for the approval of gay scrotes who don't even care in the first place. To date, I've never heard an actual gay man complain about yaoi being homophobic– it's consistently a complaint made by FTMs. I honestly believe FTMs think enjoying yaoi is something they've "earned" by lopping their tits off. Like they've decided only men can objectify other men, and if you want to have the privilege of objectifying men, you have to mutilate yourself into a facsimile of one. It goes without saying that it's fucking demented and misogynistic as hell.
Actual doompill posting hours. As a fujo in my early 30's I miss the worryfree days we took for granted in 2010 when everyone shipped whatever problematic
ship they wanted without consequences and only the most unhinged, legitimately misogynistic fujos actually took the troonpill while the overwhelming majority remained relatively normal or at most larped as an anime boy while remaining a woman in real life. Hetshippers were laughed out of the fandom space for bitching about fujos dismissing their Mary Sues, now they're joining the "you're fetishizing MLM" squad only to bully fujos into accepting their piece of shit hetship.
Those truly were the days and if I knew they would come to a close so soon I would've appreciated them more. Now I only have my girlfriend and the few fellow oldfag fujos to talk to, I'm too tired of overly sensitive zoomers to even post about my ships on social media. Bitch can't even call an ambiguously aged anime boy cute without being branded a pedophile for being over 25 by some lunatic twitterfag kinning him. Do these dumb kids think it's the teenagers writing all the characters they simp for or something?
The biggest complaint I've heard from gay men w/r/t yaoi/BL is that it doesn't appeal to them, but none have actually seemed offended by it. Bi guys are way more likely to actually like it though, something I've always found funny
You're definitely right that Aidens think they've earned the right to like yaoi because they're troo and honest men and not icky girls anymore, as if the genre isn't made by and for women. It's so funny when the few who do recognize this cope by trying to say they hate yaoi for being rapey/made by women but support bara because it's more wholesome and made by gay men, since anyone who's ever actually read bara knows that it can get waaay worse than yaoi/BL when it comes to romanticizing rape.
I half-agree with you as I don't believe the unattainability of the ship plays as strong of a part as the fact that it's often just better fleshed out than the overused "main character with his obnoxious wife-2-be he shared one line with during the show's run and had zero chemistry with" setting. Most fujos both know that their OTP would never turn into reality, but also they would welcome it with glee if it ever happened. The most recent example being Promare, people walked into the movie for the two male main characters that already looked shippable and while they were never outright confirmed as lovers you sure couldn't deny the implications such as them kissing in a very drawn-out, intense moment
both the movie and the post-movie promotional material gave to the fans. >>175216
I highly doubt they're even looking for the approval of gay males, most of them are definitely doing it for performative reasons to gain social media clout. But as for the people who actually take it to heart, once I read the theory that they're so appalled by "evil fujos fetishizing MLM" because in their minds they conflate fujos with the staceys who bullied them for being non-straight women while simultaneously squeeing over male homosexuals it made sense. >>175223
Absolutely. The bara they consume isn't nowhere near in style to the content legitimate gay men post. I follow plenty of fudanshi artists and see them RTing each other, shit is so much more ~pwoblematic~ than any of the wholesome hairy dadbod appreciator aidens love.
I think Aidens are more of a symptom than the problem itself, they troon out because they feel guilty about liking gay ships in the first place. The source of that guilt is just SJWs rhetoric in general I guess, there are occasionally gay men who talk shit about fujos and other women definitely do. I see it on lolcow all the time. >>175224>also they would welcome it with glee if it ever happened.
Absolutely. I think the reason non canon ships are more popular than, say, canon BL manga that gets adapted, is because a) mainstream series are just better quality and b) half the fun of a romance subplot (whether it's het or not) is the 'will they won't they' factor. It's more fun to see a relationship develop over time and wait to see what happens rather than knowing in advance they get together.
Shounen manga are usually about something different than love. They have to slay the monster/fight the rival school/whatever and thus they have many chances to develop a relationship and a bond apart from "I love you so much uwu you're so hot uwu".
Yaoi has degrees obviously, but many times it's just a shallow love story with sex and only 6 chapters. Of course something with 200 chapters is going to be deeper.
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and I honestly should have thought about what you anons are saying. Fujoshis are female nerds after all, so we also love a good science fiction, fantasy, or action plot. As another anon mentioned, that's part of why Promare was so popular in our community– it's not just that it was a canon depiction of a gay romance, it's that Promare is ALS a really fun action/sci fi story with awesome music and visual design. I liked Yami no Matsuei for the same reasons– the BL is just a b-plot to an action/supernatural story.
I agree so much. I remember back in 2010s all my weeb friends being into shipping and yaoi and the only drama was which Hetalia ship was the best one. Even the gaydens didn't usually care what got your rocks off.
Now I see teenagers online doxxing and sending death threats to people because someone dared to "identify" as a girl or a woman while shipping two male characters or thinking Giorno Giovanna is cute.
I miss the times when it was at least somewhat acceptable to reblog or post fanart thirst traps of two male anime characters without having a bunch of 15 year old Aydens in your notes calling you a dirty fetishist or talk about your favorite ships without someone lecturing about how much of a problematic
piece of shit you apparently are.
But in my opinion they are the problematic
pieces of shit. Men run all over us in porn. They don't give two shits. Just why are fujos supposed to give a damn about their histrionic double standards???
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The only thing I agree with is that BL artists should take what they make WAY more seriously. Take it beyond anime AND fanfiction and the standards for anime in Japan. Throw really amazing stuff in their faces and drink up the hate. Responding to anything they say is what they desperately want. Deep down they know heteronormativity is tired ass bull. And that they really can't control what women do. That's their only goal. They're TERRIFIED to lose their snorefest to cultural elements in which the usual core idea of masculinity is challenged. Where men have to see themselves compared to women and consider how they treat women in porn, and as second class prey. They respond to fujos by pretending to see themselves as "victims
of "sleazier" fandoms ("worse than porn") but it's a massive gross entitlement complex and that's it.
Pedophilia my ass. Really for something drawn??? It's gross entitlement from trads who aren't used to stepping outside their normal. That is really the bottom line. Nothing more nothing less.
The sooner you accept it, the sooner the double standards themselves makes you disgusted, the less you'll care what they think and the more you'll enjoy throwing it in their faces.
Personally I don't really get on "that" side of tumblr though, just the actual classical and modern art side.
NTA but women shipping two fictional men isn't even problematic
. Women aren't dominating sex crime statistics, women don't rape, women don't diddle kids. A pornsick fujo is not likely to abuse and groom other women or children or suffer or anything but loneliness and self hate while coomer scrotoids get constantly outed for all sorts of depraved deeds. Sure there are rare deranged fujos who are accused of taking advantage of other women but 90% of that is due to their autistic lack of personal boundaries ("I knew a fujo in high school who would glomp me") and not predatory tendencies caused by excessive cooming. >>175269
In Japan yumejos tend to have a meltdown for being clumped in with fujos since Japan is traditionally homophobic as fuck and over there fujos are almost synonymous with being lesbian/bi/some sort of a stigma related to sexuality. I don't think there's a lot of overlap there between the communities as far as I know, it's more of a western community thing since true otome was first labeled as "BL" due to lack of understanding of the difference and the people bringing it over just looking at the pretty boys and associating them with fujo stuff.
Yumejos hate it when fujos ship their husbando with another man since they don't like seeing their precious fictional husband fuck another man(especially if he's the bottom), but from what I can tell they just don't interact with one another. Japanese fans in general are very good at staying away from things they don't like and tagging their art/doujins/etc, so there isn't a whole lot of drama between them as far as I know. Though I'm sure a lot of them have the same superiority complex western yumes do over their more "normal" interests.>>175271
Much like how male hetshippers project into bland male MCs to fantasize about getting with his waifu, yumes do the same thing with female MCs. You see this a lot in Fire Emblem or other games with customizable/build-your-own player characters. My favorite FE yume meltdown was when they seethed so hard over one of the Fire Emblem Fates prince brothers being in love with his half-sister that they actually spurred Intelligent Systems to retcon that particular piece of lore. Unironically, way to go yumes for getting rid of unnecessary incest shit
cause it is normal love moron, like 96% of the human race
Like just cause you've ruined your brain due to excessive pornography doesn't mean the rest of humanity is like you
You are a pornsick coomer, that's what you are, at least scrotes accpet it why don't you
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I just want to know what this is from. I used to have it on my laptop until it died ! How do I ever even find it again ??
Totally totally. I think men's greatest fear is having to live like women do, with the espectations of femininity, etc. In their backwards little minds women could become like men with comparable coombrain evil. Which is hilarious to me. I mean that they're that terrified that all of womens emotional laborings are fake that love, calm…etc dont actually play a part in anything.
Or it could just as easily be agressive smearing to keep the control they feel entitled to…. Still that doesn't explain fujohating histrionics.
Anyway It's peak bizarre for me how tightly heteros and men keep a lid on their REAL secrets. All the effort to prance around in an even more questionable rage but never reveal the real reason you get this way over something as contrived as BL as a woman's interest.
Its telling. They know perfectly well how much we should really just hate them, and yet most women don't. Even I'm totally ignoring moids about 80% of the time.
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Anyone else like laughing at vintage ‘anti yaoi’ comics? 2000s DA edge always gives me a good laugh.
>>175262>That's why I feel bad for fujos who primarily ship characters from shounen series
I don't care about it, it's not like I was expecting it to happen in the first place. Now fujobait series like Free! are frustrating>>175278>Yumejos hate it when fujos ship their husbando with another man
I've never seen a woman give a shit about her husbando's BL pairings. Waifufags are the ones who throw a bitch fit when their self-insert gets shipped with another dude.
I think this may be a hetalia doujin?
I don't know what other series has the character named "arthur
Currently they're trying really hard to push Zhongli x Ningguang as "canon" because Ningguang's new skin got leaked and people are taking that as "proof" that she's a reincarnation of a goddess Zhongli hung out with hundreds of years ago with no indication of them having been romantically involved, just because of some reachy theory kek. Childe and Zhongli are a ridiculously popular BL pairing and they seethe over it constantly. Diluc x Jean is another het cope, people hate how Kaeya x Diluc is so well established even the official Genshin account made a joke about it. At least waifufag moids want the waifus for themselves and don't want to be cucked by imaginary men, it's both female and male hetshippers who are triggered
by gay ships.
searched up 'england x japan' on mrm and i found ithttps://myreadingmanga.info/hetalia-dj-realm-inexperience/
the artists pixiv id is 225387 but they scrubbed all of their hetalia stuff off their account
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It's because you being able to choose your MC's gender draws in the otome crowd who play as the female one and imagine themselves to be dating all the male characters in the game either as the MC or some other female character. The male MC on the other hand is too young and twinky to be shipped to any of the female characters so male hetshippers insert into the other male characters. >>175547>>175551
I had to go check this out and lost my sides at this post, based anon
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>>175547>Being surprised TWST has a male MC
It literally takes place at an all boys school and the manga confirmed quite a while ago it was a male MC.
It's true though. Don't invent things, it looks bad.>>175564
Now this is true art.
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>got invested in the side character again
kek I was just scrolling down /m/ today and saw this in action, imagine being so yoombrained you're seriously going off about having the last laugh when the anime will have a female MC while the characters are drawn by ultimate fujo Yana Toboso and the manga has a male protagonist. I don't even give a shit about twst or if it's fujo or otome but goddamn lmao>>175096
Late to this but a based analysis, I loved the angle of making the story about pro athletes instead of high school level rookies and how all the main characters were in their late 20s and settled in. And agreed completely about the drunken banquet being one of the best romcom twists ever, it wrapped the story up in such a nice little package. One of my favourite things were the small little details they hid in such as the rings, in Japanese ice skating culture skaters wear rings as sort of good luck charms/motivators but the store receipt shown for a split second when Yuuri buys them lists them as "wedding rings" and they wear them on their right hand ring fingers instead, something gay couples are known to do. You have to be discreet about this shit in order not to have your show dumped into the BL bin and shunned by everyone in the business.
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sorry if this is a bit ot but one of you posted this in another thread (sorry, can't remember where) and I though it was funny and would make a good potential pic for the next thread
On another note, I've never been to a con, is it comon for fujos to get together like that nowadays ? I amire their bravery to be so public about it
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he really is and i want justice for him
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I really like Fjord
He's canonically good with children and refuses to take mothers's souls because it would leave the children motherless. Also love his semi-ship with Shax.>>175945
I love him too. Honestly almost all of the characters in madk have something unique and likeable (I personally like K too, he's very sweet).
Shax asks about him the first time we see him and they do interact more in volume 3 and it's very sad but cute
. But also the author once drew a human AU with mainly J, Shax and Datenshou and they obviously ship them together but there's like a bit of a triangle going on.
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Dropped pic, anyway it's a date
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Anyone else into doing 3x3s for BL ships?
R8 if you’d like.
the robots are
hot tho 10/10
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Fuck it, I'll do one too.
There's a lot of western shit in mine, sorry. I read a lot of actual BL, but I don't consider the pairings in those to be "ships" because most of those are too obscure to have fandoms. Ships in my mind are pairings from non-BL media that have a lot of fanart and fanfic.>>176331
You recognized the Danganropa characters though kek. Interesting how most of the people judging others for being in a certain fandom are former fans themselves.
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Fuuuuck I'm so sad the TRAs took over the Homestuck fandom. This is one of my first real OTPs.
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Same, same. I loathe everything after the credits. I especially hate what they did to Dirk, undoing all the nice character development he had just so they could shoehorn him into the role of both Hussie AND Lord English. These days I'm mostly just nostalgic for the main comic itself and I try to avoid anything to do with recent content like the games and the "post-canon" crap.
Back in the day, Davekat and Dirkjake were my favorites (basic I know, but the popular ships often had the best fan content.) Not to be that guy, but I actually shipped Davekat long before there was any possibility of it being canon. Before act six, most people shipped it black (myself included) though there were definitely a subset of people who liked the idea of it going from black to red. Honestly, the people squawking about how it was "fanservice" and "came out of nowhere" really didn't seem to be paying attention. They establish pretty early on that Karkat has a hard time with troll relationships because he's monogamous like a human, setting up the idea that he'd end up with one. There were hints at Dave not being straight pretty much from the word go. So you take a bisexual kid discovering his sexuality and a troll that experiences human love and isolate them together for three years, what the hell do you think is going to happen? Even in the timeline where they fought over Terezi, they end up being pretty darn close at the end of the meteor trip.
Sorry about the Homestuck sperg. It's just hard to find other fans these days who aren't 12 year olds or TRAs.
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Oooh cute ships!>>176486
Ryou/akira and leo/kurapica is 10/10
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Unfortunately, my favorite Homestuck ship involves two extremely minor characters. On one hand I am so starved for alpha troll stuff but on the other I'm kind of glad Homestuck hasn't continued to make things with the alpha trolls because I don't think I could handle the disappointment.
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Very cute ships, anon. Here's my own.>Hetalia in 2022
Yeah yeah I know kek, I'm ashamed of my own taste sometimes
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pls no bully, I know I'm rarted for this
Fuck I forgot about Patalliro, I should've put Jack and Maraich on mine.
Clearly troons want to self-insert and shoujofags who got into tgcf secretly wished hualian was another generic het couple. Xie lian is not even remotely effeminate in the novel, he is described as being handsome in a prince-like way and is obsessed with weapons and martial arts. But because he's the official bottom they ruined his character. Between the manhua and anime, I genuinely feel like the anime depicted him better
Starember has pretty art but everyone looks like they got heavy plastic surgery, gangnam unnie style
Nah man hetalia is great where else can i watch a series with nonthreatening cute boys doing cute shit, is the only moe show we have>>176580
They're Keith and shiroe from towards the terra
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hetalia was by far the gayest though. no one in this series is straight
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Has anyone played pride and submission yet? it's a trashy game about a getting subdued by a gray elf guy. what do you think of it? the Engrish is pretty funny at times
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>>177745>using mid 00's yaoi icons>Saying that like it's a bad thing
I will fully accept that my memes are cringe, but how dare you insult Laughter Land and Lamento CGs you fucker.
Who's insulting anything? Laughter Land and Lamento are based but scrotes who try to bait fujos here always base their knowledge of BL on mid-00s outdated properties they get by typing "yaoi images" on google image search and try to play its dark themes as a mastermind gotcha to put fujos in their place, i.e. >"Well I happen to know that yaoi is based on rape porn so what business do you have insulting male coomers, hmmmm??"
And the "we sure hate trannies here, right fellow vagina having girls?" thing is something that happens all the time just so that they can bait any thread into infighting and/or to try the waters on how far they can take it and push actual homophobia. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you just don't know any better but you have to understand the light that you're put into here. I really don't want the "lesbian fujos are all just pornsick straight girls who need to be cured by dick and I hate IRL gay people but I love reading BL porn doujins" spergs to hear the dog whistle.
Check out the homophobic Nigel tender upthread to see what's being referred to here. >>174545
and /ot/'s fujo cringe thread that somehow screenshots any controversial post in less than a minute to cry about fujoomers being nasty bitches again.
Stop being so hung up on this "how would they know Laughter Land and Lamento" point, see > properties they get by typing "yaoi images" on google image search
Generic mid 00's yaoi game CGs are just something on par with Gravitation artwork that people think of when they need to slap a generic image on something.
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By that logic the OP's pic is a scrote because it's always one of the first results when you google 'fujoshi'
By the way, even when you type in 'yaoi images visual novel' neither VN pops up.
its honestly because although there are more companies publishing BL, it's no way to make a living. its a sad compromise, they get to draw, but they have to give up BL.
Don't be completely sad though, professionals tend to make twitters for fandom related stuff without announcing it. Like koge donbo does shoujo shit but she has a hardcore dedue/dimitri stan account where she draws lewds of them.
You’ve probably seen her stuff somewhere, she’s an OG in the anime industry(digi chara, pitaten, kamichama Karin etc)
But yeah reiterating my point, your fav JP artist is probably still a hardcore BL fan, you just have to randomly come across their hidden fan accounts on Twitter
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How is this pairing so slept on by fujos?
Just a suggestion honestly. Taking your hobbies too seriously makes other people take you too seriously. It's a vicious cycle. It ruins your work, your interactions , your expectations, it all becomes so brittle and fragile and it's not even neccessary. So why??
No in all seriousness. I wish fujos, yumejos, shippers, whoever the hell, ALL of them would stop taking themselves and this shit so seriously. It's the only reason fujos for example, have a hard time. The whole community look like easy targets.(shitposting)
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Please tell me more. As I said, I remember one of her vague comment at the beginning of the manga, probably in response to fans after she introduced Ayame and made him and Shigure flirt as a joke every two pages, but I didn't know she addressed it later as well.
Holy shit I remember when Akito was revealed as a woman and it was so weird, but I had no idea it was because she was triggered
by fujos. Are there any details to this? >>178078
ma'am you were already told that nobody cares
It's been such a long time. Looking at the dates of the manga, the reveal was done back in 2007. Any website that I recall is now defunct or buried in Gaiaonline kek. But I'll try to remember>>178093
I'd appreciate that.
Ok I found it. It's in the first guidebook, I will translate it from French to English (the book is numbered 24, since the actual manga is 23 volumes long). It's in the very first interview, where fans ask her how she came up with the series and the characters in general:>Question number 13: Did you already decide from the beginning that Akito will be a woman? (question from Eriko)>Answer: Yes. I always liked androgynous looking characters, they make me swoon (laugh)
>Question 15: Ever since the surprising revelation about Akito's sex, the story became more "adult/mature". Was this change always planned since the beginning of the series?>Answer: Yes, indeed. It's the story's mature side by itself that interests me, but its outcome. I have a brain fart, not sure how to translate that shit properly. The message I try to convey in my manga is that you always reap the fruits of your labor, even if you do it in a shameful way as in, as if you're kind of an asshole. That's why Fruits Basket and my other series lead to a moment with a specific goal.
So yeah, she says she always planned Akito as a crossdressing woman, and while she could be lying, I have no idea how I could know for sure. I'll look for her anti-fujo meltdown though.
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Anyways anons, guts and griffith canon. Berserk best manga.
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such innocent and harmless nudity. who just doesn't want to see a child's genitals in full view? don't get me started on the horse rape. is that also nonsexual nudity? 5head
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nta, but do you think that the shitting scenes in Made In Abyss are also non sexual? get real anon
naked little kids don't have non-sexual intent behind them when they are drawn by dirty old men.
anyway, sorry for derail. here is a random BL i read today, it's called kimi to no dogfight. it's like a typical BL you find everywhere, but i enjoyed it so i wanted to share it in case someone is interested in it
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since i am here in the yaoi thread here i am posting ship art of my favorite yaoi ship. they fuck hard>>178122>um ackschually it's interesting that-
kekw it's not like i had to download the tor browser and fight my way through the dark web wiki to get access to berserk manga panels. might blow your mind away, i know, but there is this thing called google and it immediately shows up when you search for it>>178125
at first glance it's so obvious who's the uke and who's the seme
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Anyone here a fan of Chreon?
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BASED ANON I was so obsessed with with chris/piers I still have my folder kek
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krauser x leon is good too! the homoerotic knife fight leon has with him in resident evil 4 is forever godly + there are a lot of good doujins with these two as wellhttps://myreadingmanga.info/fuego-katou-teppei-hold-my-hand-eng/https://myreadingmanga.info/fuego-katou-teppei-plus-pink-resident-evil-dj-eng/
some good ones
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feel free to post more nonny
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I like Chris x Piers the best too! I just posted Chreon because I was under the impression it was more popular.
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Sure anon! I'll post my favorites kek chris-stan piers is always my favorite
sorry another anon having the same point as me made you seethe nonnie
, but there are in fact multiple people who use lolcow. and how is it being willfully obtuse when i was saying a completely different page that i had seen was more innocent than a page i had never seen before? bringing up a drawing to make a point and then using something different as a 'gotcha' when an anon disagrees is retarded.
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Why does every fucking thread have to always devolve into the shota argument jesus christ. It’s autistic to come into a thread totally unprompted to shit on a series you don’t like because an anon asked a question and it’s also retarded to keep replying to this anons obvious bait. Just move on and ignore the retardation. >>178146
Thank you so much for sharing these nonnie
I thoroughly enjoyed them.
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i'm sorry nonnie
please forgive me i'll drop it now <3
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Posting a few of my favorites from my bookmarks.
karasuma piyohiko has talked about going on dates with women and liked terfy posts about how the lgbt community revolves around men (gay men and transwomen) on her fandom account lel
the author of my lesbian experience with loneliness is (was?) a fujo but idk if she ever published anything
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I don’t think it’s necessarily slept on as much as it’s just basically nonexistent in the western berserk fandom due to a big portion of the readers being moids. I also feel like in today’s culture it just wouldn’t be accepted by the woke crowd because waaah abusive
There are mangaka who have been caught with actual cp and charged with abusing children, but you want to nitpick over a dead man’s drawing.
Genuinely kill yourself you are sjw cancer and just as bad as scrotes
man I find it so hard to care after being desensitized by all the twitterfags crying wolf over muh fictional CP, I just can't bring myself to give a shit about cartoons being naked even if it's weird stuff this isn't even like a sexy toddler in a bikini spreading her legs like 90% of moid content is>>178164
women don't rape IRL kids anon, your "if the genders were switched" argument doesn't work
>>178177>Karasuma Piyohiko is a based and pinkpilled lesbian terf queen
Holy shit you just made my day nonny
, I have a new favourite BL artist now
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Ever since I beat the Dai Gyakuten Saiban compilation I can't stop thinking about Sherlock and Mikotoba
, I was about to delete my twitter account but I decided to start following artists who like this pairing. I remember that not only Kumiko Suekane made Edgeworth and Phoenix total fujobait, and she made the devs read BL manga after the very first Ace Attorney game sold well, but Shu Takumi decided to put as much fanservice as possible in AA4 despite Suekane telling him afterward that it was excessive. For the ones who don't mind spoilers do you think Sherlock and Mikotoba's relationship is meant to just be 100% platonic or do you think Takumi wanted to add a little subtext on purpose?>>178193
iirc Shigure and Akito's relationship is revealed right after that. But we see Akito and Kureno making out just a few pages before the revelation.
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I found this comment about Asada Nemui
on Amazon JP and now I’m dying to know what her side account is
Twittertards are so weird. They'll throw a fit over stuff like underage anime girls being aged up for erotic art and you'll see zoomers trying to cancel each other for DMing a 17 year-old when they were 18, but are perfectly content to excuse actual child molestation done by troons. Weird place.>>178268
I wonder what her "terrible tansphobic remarks" are.
I wonder if this is a western troon. I have no idea what are the "transphobic remarks" but wouldn't be surprised if it was shit like "she called menstruators women" or something along those lines. Tried looking into it but couldn't find anything. Agree with >>178271
though, based if true.
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I’m pretty sure that the review was for Call but it looks like Amazon deleted it. Another reviewer left a comment about it, saying that it’s rude to expose the author’s thoughts when their manga don’t have any transphobic content.
AYART, THANK YOU, also>>178191
Look anon I'm sorry someone criticizing your fav manga has you so upset but you really sound hilariously retarded throwing out nonsense whataboutisms. People not liking sexualized rape scenes doesn't make them retarded and it certainly doesn't mean they like it in other media either, like you imply.>>178441
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Speaking of Twitterfags and troons, looking for slashfic in a fandom with a lot of Aidens fucking sucks. No matter how many Ao3 tags related to trannies I put in the "exclude" category, I still have to sift through a bunch of tranny wank fantasies about top scars and PIV. I wish they'd just cut the crap and write a fic where they ship themselves with one of the characters, since it's obvious Aidens are self-inserting as the character they "headcanon" as trans.
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These idiots only mess with people who can't defend themselves (in this case a dead man) that the worst thing he did was draw a rape scene in a DARK FANTASY manga, i want to see those twitterfag bastards try to cancel successfully the author of samurai X who got caught with real CP
(pic related with the best ship on bleach,to return to the topic )
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Defend that Bleach ship please, because clearly the best Bleach ship is Gin x Izuru
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Being a semi-popular fujo artist and trying to avoid these tards presence is purgatorial as well. They actually try to entrap you into taking their titmangle commissions and randomly nonconsensually erp about it in my comments/DMs. I can't even state that I don't draw trannyshit so I just have to vaguely be "Oh I don't want to do this," "Why? You can have my fakeboi be penetrated by another guy what's wrong lol?" "my fridge isn't running gtg" "Ok when you come back we can discuss his t-dicks size :3," and the cycle restarts forever until I shoot myself I guess.
>>178461>>178571>Probably something like 20% of dirty fanfics about Felix involve him being a TIF getting raped and impregnated by Sylvain or Dimitri, it's insane.
Holy fuck kek. I would accept omegaverse and magic mpreg or some ridiculous fantasy shit even if it is cringe over making characters into actual troons. It sounds borderline homophobic when you want to make it straight PIV sex even though I know they want to self-insert and create more ~representation~ and whatever. But seeing how so many fujos, me included, are lesbians and feel uncomfortable with the setting including a male dick in a female vagina it should be without saying that even by their woke-aligned logic they should tag appropriately. Some of them apparently refuse to do so because "trans men are real men and should be included under m/m" and fuck lesbians anyway I guess. >>178587
She would be branded a MLM fetishist and a transphobe, of course.
I'm pretty sure they're just too autistic and occupied with their trans headcanons to realize how uncomfortable it is for their readers, I doubt most Aiden kinnies are as malicious and narcissistic as a lot of AGP transbians who send rape threats to people if they don't comply to their insane demands.>>178591>Nintendo brand>Lots of different characters you can romance>Can be experienced through Youtube let's plays instead of playing it yourself
That's all you need.
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I understand your pain anon, this kind of thing made me put a great RIP to the fandom of Hannibal, Overwatch and soon The Witcher. It is very tiring to try to avoid this content and you simply do not enjoy anything (and I will not talk about the fandoms that I see little but it still has that which makes me not even want to try it)
I'm a FE oldfag, most of the Aidens came into the fandom after Awakening blew up. It's probably mostly just because of the timing since 2013 was when troonacy really started to take off, but the marriage+children mechanic combined with the very popular Chrom/M!Robin pairing probably "cracked a few eggs", to use their vernacular.
For those who don't know/don't play the game: minus their support conversations, the main male protagonist's relationship with the male PC in-story is identical to his relationship with the female PC, who he can marry and have children with
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just beautiful in everything haha
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they seem to lean to the retarded side, honestly. don't know why they target me in particular >>178594
I don't really want to get ostracized/never get employment again I am surrounded by them in artland, here's all the dodges I could come up with and my best advice to any other fujo is to go "ZAMM I GOTTA GO PICK UP A PACKAGE RN BRUH" and never speak to them again
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Based FE oldfag, I'm one too and I thought we didn't exist anymore kek. I hope in future games they tone down the self-insert, 3h was going in a better direction, even if Byleth was retarded at least I didn't have to suffer through a sea of screenshots of people's self insert Corrin avatarxRyoma images.
I wish I could give BL fic recs, but I'm unfortunately a BE fag (love Dimidue and some rarepairs in the blue lions though). Instead of reading about them transing Felix I get to read about them doing it to Ferdinand though, fucking hate that. I'm really close to just going back to old ass fandoms like FE4 or FE7 kek.
Nice to see another one of us on lolcow! God I hate the self insert MCs so much, but given how popular they I doubt they're going away any time soon. I actually disliked Byleth more than the other two; at least Robin and Corrin had canon personalities and most people would use their default designs in fanart, but Byleth is just a blank-faced ball of nothing that the world revolves around to make the player feel special. 3H would've been so much better without her.
Unfortunately, Heroes is giving exposure to the older games and they've started to infect those fandoms as well. I've seen a recent uptick in Ike x FtM Soren that doesn't appear to be slowing down anytime soon. And I haven't seen anyone trying to make Hector or Eliwood fakebois yet(thank god) have seen a startling amount of MtF Lyn X Florina. Can't have shit kek
There are other options. You can ghost people who bring up tranny shit in your DMs or comments section. You can also alienate them from your work by drawing fanart of ships SJWs consider "problematic
" (i.e., big age gaps, hateships.) Unfortunately being branded as being a "problematic
" shipper is less damaging to your reputation that objecting to the tranny craze. Aidens also generally aren't fond of bears and bara– they typically prefer androgynous bishonen. Drawing more of that might potentially steer them away.
Never, ever, agree to do a commission before you know what the person wants. That's just common sense. Don't even respond to DMs from people with tranny shit in their Twitter/Tumblr bios.
Speaking of the troonification of BL, have you noticed it's started to creep into japanese fandoms too? I see so much cuntboy art on Pixiv while trying to browse BL, often thrown together with normal dickboy art. Other troonish weirdness like huge blatantly female tits on males is becoming unavoidable as well.
It doesn't bother me as much in japanese art because at least it's less ugly and less likely to be obvious aiden self-insert in a cringe way. There are never any clitdicks or breast scars so it's more clearly fantasy like futa. >>178635
This is true, if anything old school bishonens are more safe from this type of fan.
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>>178626>I hope in future games they tone down the self-insert>3h was going in a better direction
I refuse to believe you put these two contradictory concepts in the same sentence. I simply refuse to. Byleth is an abomination, and Edelgard being a mindless shitty, badly written waifu is the best proof of the self-insert thing going out of control. At least Robin and Corrin had their own personalities so if you don't want to self-insert in their games you can just see them as their own characters. I forgive you because you like Dimidue though.
>I get to read about them doing it to Ferdinand though
Isn't the reason why he's a prime target just because he's too busy to cut his hair? That's somehow even more retarded than with Felix.
Sage for samefagging but Japanese artists always tag their "cuntboy" art on twitter so it's easy to avoid. I don't use any other platforms to look for art though. Japanese fujoshi truly don't give a fuck, at least in their case I'm sure they draw that because they like pussy and not because they want to look unproblematic.
That reminds me of how, just a few days ago, I saw an article about an American FTM getting pregnant and giving birth that was trending in Japan and some of the most liked replies to these tweets were Japanese fujoshi saying that it was cool because it was just like in their favorite omegaverse BL manga/fics. Imagine seeing this among western fakebois and fujoshi.
Self inserting for all the games (Awakening, Fates, 3h) is extremely annoying, I agree with you. I was much more able to ignore Byleth or write them out of the story entirely though, as opposed to Corrin or Robin. Not touching the Edelgard stuff, the endless reeing about her character is stupid. I don't pair any of the lords with Byleth and I ignore their weird simping moments.
Ferdinand is a very pretty guy in general, and has some lines in the game about grooming (trimming his eyebrows etc.) plus the hair thing. He's got some GNC moments so they use it to troon him out basically. I like his character and interactions a lot but I only ever see japanese fanwork from him portrayed well.>>178631
Oh fuck, I completely forgot about Heroes. You're so right though. I was just replaying PoR too, I hate that troonshit has infested everything.
I mainly use pixiv and yes, I can say that there was an increase in cuntboy fetish, and the worst thing is that they always tag it together with the yaoi / BL which is very annoying. being treated like a fetish doesn't take away from how tiring it is to watch.>>178635
They try to turn the bara into "not like other fujo gaydens" and then this shit of drawing bara like women, instead of big pecs they literally put breasts, and sometimes they put the character with a ridiculously feminine attitude and seeing scars on the chest is very disgusting. bara is ruining
Popularity isn't the best way to pick your manga. A lot of the most popular things end up sucking or being generic rape bl.
I would just follow bl publishers and check out anything that seemed nice.
Popularity is not the main deciding factor when it comes to BL for me, but there are the BL awards each year: https://ebookjapan.yahoo.co.jp/content/bl/award/chillchill/2021/index.html
(this is last year's)
Mostly I find new stuff by following an author, recommendations or from reading free samples. Chil Chil is a great resource if there's something particular your interested in.
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another day, another fanfic that springs surprise pussy and top surgery scars on me. being fujo is suffering.
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akira/akechi. it did have a few hundred kudos, i think? i just noped out so quickly kek.>I feel like the more kudos a fanfic has the less likely it's going to have trannies
it's almost like most people hate tranny stuff in their BL, huh?>>178720
nope. it has happened a few times already, and it really bothers me. i'm here to read about dick on dick and then i have to read about some dude's pussy and clit and how he's totally a manly man.
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i read fanfic mostly as a means to compliment canon, not replace it so i hate AUs especially fantasy ones, ooc writing etc… canon divergence can be good if well plotted
song fics, chat fics, all the usual boring tropes (fake dating, only one bed bla bla), mpreg, tentacles, trannies, kidfics are on the shitlist too. theres more but thats all i can be arsed to think of
random kinoven page to keep this thread visually interesting
This is less common than ABOshit or outright troonfying one of the characters, but I hate it when they make the bottom have an intersex condition he didn't know about until he suddenly gets knocked up. I know it's all fantasy, but that's not how intersex conditions work! No intersex men have fully functioning female reproductive systems tucked behind their balls or something. If you must make your OTP have assbabies, at least stick to the tried and true "lol magic" route or something Honestly though, what's wrong with adoption? Wish more writers took that route if they want them to have a family.
I also really hate it when they make the bottom much smaller/weaker/smaller dicked(lol) than the top, especially when in-canon there isn't much physical difference between them.
Based anon, I can't fucking stand AUs or the fake dating/only one bed bullshit and they're the most popular themes at the moment. They're always lazy, predictable and boring no matter how masterfully they're written.
I honestly don't even mind ABOshit even though I hate it because I'd rather have that than any troonified gay made straight penis in vagina fic ever.
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they fucked (off screen but confirmed) and it was very problematic
and kinda rapey (based)
I hate any type of modern AUs because suddenly the characters all work at an american starbucks or whatever. Why would characters from an Asian or European setting become American all of a sudden? Even my immortal at least tried despite putting Hot Topic stores in Great Britain.>>178769
Ten years ago the shitty fics were in ff.net and the good ones were in ao3. I don't even think 14yo fakebois even know ff.net exists.
It never fucking fails for that ship to have the tranny shit. NEVER. The fanfic thread here had recommended an extension for AO3 and it blacklists tags. It fucking saved my life and experience in AO3. No more tranny or gender bullshit unless they don't tag it. But you can put the author's name to block their works with that extension
AO3rdr is the extension. Self fucking care at its finest
Honestly every fandom I've ever been in has this problem, but it's one of my pet peeves too. I glaze over fics now if they start doing this.
Otherwise I hate most smut (it's hard to find good and well written stuff), fake dating plots, OCxCanon Character, 'x character has his soulmate's name tattooed on his ankle but hasn't met him yet oOOooOOh'>>178801
Thanks for the extension rec, love it
I just want to read Apollo and Kris going at it but the new standards of morals and ethics makes it “ too problematic
” despite them both being grown ass adults
Same, all the older fics were all about Kristoph being horribly abusive
and Apollo being traumatized despite this not making any sense when they take place before the story of the game. This applies to Phoenix/Apollo as well. Somehow people think Apollo's potential daddy issues isn't exactly what makes it spicy.
They even try to manage to sanitize Klavier/Apollo because they also can't stand Klavier lightly teasing Apollo and having some funny banter whenever he says stupid in the game so Klavier is all over Apollo instead. Big spoiler for TGAA I've even seen some people on twitter saying that the age gap between Sherlock and Mikotoba and the fact that they first met 16 years before the game started is problematic.
I don't think fans are like this with the characters from the trilogy.
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that depends on what youre into. do you like mostly introspective monologue driven narratives? are you a fan of melancholic pretentious melodrama? is art style a prominent factor for your enjoyment of any given (heh) series? do you like sports manga? do you like gusaris haikyuu doujins?
if so, yes given is kino
if you expect sex or much fluff, no dont read given
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I saw this image in another thread and felt it's very relevant to fanfics and published works.
Fuck the "queers" and their terrible writing.
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Oh I do ignore them and draw the worst taste stuff possible which only seems to imply that i'm fine with new-half fetish and attracts even more aggressive requests to draw it. Also I only follow 27 people and 100% of them have turned out to be troons and I've muted every single involved person but it's like a super autistic hydra. Living in this comedy sketch is more stressful than anything else>>178926
I love every fujofarmer here too anon, happy late yaoimas to everyone
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I dunno if I would consider myself a fujoshi since I rarely care about romance in general, but I quickly became attached to this incest pairing recently. I must see them fuck.
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Are you watching it?
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I'm sick of younger fujoshi and fakebois as well, I feel like this thread is the only place where I can talk about BL, and lolcow.farm as a whole is the only place where I can talk about entertainment as a whole freely. The new fujoshi imageboard is a bit slow unfortunately but its existence is a pretty good sign imo. I remember participating a lot in fandoms years ago and now all I do is just follow a few Asian and European artists on twitter who like the specific video games I like and I never post anything to avoid weirdos. I love you all so much.
I'm with you anon. I love me all the problematic
content. If it makes me a "fetishist" or whatever so be it
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Based as fuck, anon. They've got a lot of chemistry. I'm more of a Reiritsu liker myself though.
It's not that simple, sometimes depending on who you hang out with online or what you like you will end up seeing these people whether you like it or not. And these crazy assholes did change fandoms as a whole for the worse. Normies in general using the internet on a daily basis made it infinitely worse regardless of fandoms as well. For example a decade ago I used to be on livejournal, pixiv and a little bit on tumblr to look for fics and art of the series, manga and video games I liked, or even just to talk about it with likeminded people and now livejournal is a zombie, pixiv is kind of dying, and tumblr… let's not even talk about tumblr, there's too much to say. Now if I want to look for pretty art of some of the specific video game characters I like it's either on twitter or mayyybe on instagram if it's not too niche. I using twitter just for that and I keep blocking anyone who might expose me to al this queerios discourse bullshit so I'm only following non Americans and I follow like 50 people at the very most. Yet I still sometimes see tweets about how terfs are anti-fujoshi or whatever nonsense.
tldr; depending on fandoms and pairings you will see retarded normies or "achillean MLM uwu" opinions on your TL even if you block people and mute specific keywords, unless you stop using the internet completely unless you're surrounded by nerds irl like I am, then there's no escape, rip
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Didn’t realize Kabukicho Bad Trip had a second volume. Also I just finished reading the story about the piano boys- cute and I’m happy it was a happy ending
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It's so good, I love the artstyle and story and the characters appeal to all my tastes. But I felt like after the first chapters it kind of fell off. The build-up is always really good but then the explicit scenes just end up fizzling out somehow. I can't put my finger on it, it just feels too mature and serious in my opinion. Like the chapter where they went on a date together and Tooru wore the choker and ropes and then they went to a hotel and it was just over in an anticlimactic way. It's cute that the couple cares about each other so much, but the way they keep talking around stuff and how weird they are about bdsm is so strange and almost cringeworthy. Still really good though, I wish there was more like it
None of my friends are into this bullshit but it requires a very thoroughly curated friend group full of people you can trust not to leak DM messages of you saying "problematic
" things in private and it also limits you from ever straying to the open fandom waters. You can't control who sees your content for example, so the moment you post your fanart/fanfics into the social media to share it around you're in inherent danger of some underage MLM themlet calling you a pedo for shipping Boku no Hero Academia characters or demanding you to add vaginas on men or else you're a fetishist. If you piss off the wrong person they will obsessively go through your entire internet history to find that one dodgy thing you said in 2010 and turn it against you. Nobody is safe from this shit unless you go fully offline which is pretty much out of the question in this day and age. >>179116
Here are your sources nonny
>>179098>Yet I still sometimes see tweets about how terfs are anti-fujoshi or whatever nonsense.
It's bizarre to see the "antiship" side of the discourse claiming it's the terfs who are "heterosexual cis women fetishizing gay people" and the other side claiming it's these antiships who are terfs because "a lot of fujos are trans men and BL helped them realize that". "Terf
" doesn't even mean anything anymore, it's a catch-all term for someone they project their fictional conservative Karen stereotype into.>>179156
I don't think any of us can understand it as we don't represent the privileged gender that has oppressed the other one for hundreds of years and only in the past decades has been held marginally accountable for it. Men live in a different world from us, they're used to getting their way, never having to tolerate things they don't like and above all having women worship them, not a bunch of fictional boys real life scrotes find unappealing. It's just a level of entitlement completely foreign to women who are raised to be self-sacrificing. The more women that realize this and stop giving a shit about male feelings the better.
>>179222> It's bizarre to see the "antiship" side of the discourse claiming it's the terfs who are "heterosexual cis women fetishizing gay people" and the other side claiming it's these antiships who are terfs because "a lot of fujos are trans men and BL helped them realize that".
Amen to this, when I joined a seemingly well-known proshipper group and asked for information about anti-shippers and how to counter with their harassment. What I got were graphs and really graphic details of "proofs that antis drove a minor to suicide" and "antis & puritans are the product of radfem grooming them from tumblr". I ended up getting nowhere with those kinds of conversation and speculation. I have no doubt that these proshipper had thought that I was some anti psypop for asking these information and got really defensive when they started harassing a couple of youtubers that think Hannibal's writer was cringe.
I don't know, man, I just want to gush about anime boys being affectionate towards each other without being immediately assigned to a certain Extreme political ideology that I have zero knowledge about. I can't believe we cant have that kind of minimum of enjoyment in this day and age.
Both sides blame terfs for antis/proshippers, and both sides have shitty arguments for it. It's so weird. I almost want to put that I'm a terf
on my bio but I don't want to be banned.
sage bc offtopic but yeah they really do, cant remember how often ive seen some random tirade about how being a cryptoswerf by disliking lolicon leads to the murder of 3 gorillion transwimmin or whatever from that zombiejerusalem person cross my timeline and then you look these people up and it turns out theyre in their thirties unemployed and get into beef with 13 year old tiktok zoomers for kohi donations kek
do we have a dedicated thread for the anti vs proshipper wars? bc theres a lot of milk there
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This has been brought up around art thread #28, and some anons already blogging their experience in sjw-artist thread in /cow/>>>/snow/1387114
Those are what I managed to find some good read of the topic. I don't recommend making a topic post about it, I'm 100% convinced that a lot of us Really want to move on from this conversation, however I think it's fine to bring it up here and then for nonnas to vent their thoughts.
As for anons replying to the topic, these have been insightful to me since I've always been in a more (supposed) woke side of the conversation and often so many times got shut out for "not believing the victims
" when they didn't give me any concrete (or even, common sense) information to understand.
In a sense of a queer creator myself, and pretty much just sick of having to tip toe any kind of things, then somehow it's my fault for not keeping up with the latest topic, bitch I work full-time and I have bills to pay.
Another frustrating thing is those spaces used to be another facet for me to expression myself, in an unconventional way in which I wouldn't allow to show in public. I mean, who would bring up some genshin incest ship in a middle of family table.
So I understand where proship coming from and their bitching essay does sound valid
to me in some degree, but the discourse has now evolved to "thou art villain!" and a lot if cow-like behavior when it's dealing with - literally teenagers online.
I think fujo spectrum of fandom spaces have always had their own problems and typical cows that ruined the fun for everyone, only lately I feel like these spaces are getting worse and worse for the old guards had left, and which remains are those are so Insanely obsessed with one ship to the point it means life and death to them.
pic unrelated but nonnas talk about hetalia so heres my fav
literally all the characters were poorly written and i despise lance in particular. however i don't understand how you could like any het vld ships nona
i don't know why they pulled that lotura stuff in the middle of the series only to reveal that lotor is still evil and then proceed to make lance allura's rebound. and then allura dies. and i'm not gonna start with that weird implied keith/acxa shit that made absolutely no sense. and kallura was just… weird
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I love Sleeping Dead, Mamiya’s spergy antics make me crack up every time I read it. He’s great lolcow material
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made to suffer
This. Both sides are retarded.>pro shippers
Easily offended people who can’t accept that kids think they’re weird, unlike board type fujos (who don’t give a fuck as long as you stay in your own lane) just the thought of some kid on tumblr boolying them drives them to tears
Also tends to make cringy merch.>anti shippers
Kids in places they usually shouldn’t be (ie: danganronpa) and then proceed to expect everyone to do exactly what they want them to due to being raised on a dose of tumblr/twitter groomers who tell them that they’re perfect and could do no wrong. Usually some form of ftm.
Both sides for some reason accuse the other of being terfs, even though the only place you really see terf
fujos is on board sites.
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Also I got reminded of my favorite meme.
The thing is that as discussed above, the proships are doing important work in telling kids not to harass and dox people over ship wars and that not all fiction reflects your real life tastes because it's a sandboxed universe where you're in charge. I mean at the end of the day I can't really blame them because there's a real threat of some 16-year old constructing an autistic google doc with out of context screenshots laying down claims of you being a pedo because they raked through your twitter likes and found you liking an underage ship fanart. And because people on social media love drama they will spread that shit like wildfire with no factchecking like, as brought up by >>179372
, the people who think Kaeluc is a pedo incest ship despite the two being ex-childhood friends both clearly in their late 20s or so with no blood relations whatsoever.
However I agree with >>179360
, some of them definitely take it too far and give too big of a platform for some teenager to yell about how every female BL artist over 25 drawing ship art should be giving birth to kids and paying taxes instead. To a degree they're right, I assume that in order to have a twitter slapfight with a literal kid you have to be taking this thing too seriously. Just tell them to shut the fuck up or better yet ignore and block them completely, they're children and should have no business in following you anyway. This situation got so badly out of hand because people started giving these stupid teenagers their time of the day instead of gatekeeping them like one should. Oh and fuck the women who defend lolicon just because they feel obligated to, a woman liking teenage male characters is absolutely not comparable to a moid fapping to a female child.
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I've also noticed that when the topic comes up, self-proclaimed proshippers will quickly say that fiction is not reality so lolicon and shotacon fanarts doesn't mean you should harass artists, but they usually don't bring that up themselves. From my experience the ones who do bring up legit degenerate things by themselves by starting a debate or posting their own content tend to legit be the disgusting type of people that make me understand why antis are so wary of adults online. But the antis take it out on the normal shippers for some reason. Sage because it's off-topic.
By the way, I stopped giving a fuck months ago and I'm buying more and more officially translated BL manga in my usual bookshop and I bought so much shit I got a 10€ coupon for the manga I bought today.