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Oh god I'm gonna YOOOOOM at that threadpic. Thank you, nona. I was worried we'd be stuck in /w/.
No. 356692
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This expression activated something in me. Bettel ryona nonas I'm joining you guys
No. 356712
>>356692When he has his hair slicked back it somehow makes his face look 100x more squeezable. I want to pinch his cheeks so hard they come off and then eat them.
Senzaki mama cooks so well… IDK how I feel about the new Bettellion design, though. Not a fan. IMO Flayon still has the best in Stars.
No. 356771
>>356675I need Mel back so they can do one of these again. I love the acting they did for this stream, here's hoping Ao-kun does more because it was delightful.
I've also been enjoying her recent streams of that bad mascot horror game (Poppy's Playtime?), especially the one she did with Kanade. Having her commenting on things in the background is also very comfy.
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>>356915Let us know if you find one that isn't affiliated with a corpo because same.
I'm sad because I liked Niji KR's Oh Jiyu but because of stupid corpo stuff (the merger) she mostly streams in JP now and I can't understand her anymore.
No. 356985
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I watch Bettel 50% for the ryona and 50% because I think Phantom is the cutest creature in Holo.
No. 357016
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>>356997Is it ethical to promote Gavis Bettel Ryona when the "Gavis Bettel" we direct these violent feelings to is actually a dog? Does it amount to animal abuse? Discuss.
No. 357106
>>357103Noel has my personal favorite voice in holoJP, it's very fortunate that ASMR is kind of her niche.
>I don't usually like such uwu loli voicesPatra has ones where she doesn't talk, if the voices aren't part of the appeal to you. I used to watch those from her because I similarly don't like the nasally loli voice, not outside of her goofy character songs at least.
No. 357219
>>357103The only vtuber whose voice I've enjoyed for ASMR is Aragami Oga. His voice just generally works well for putting me to sleep, though. I've even had his menshi for ASMR content despite not watching his streams overall lol.
I wish I liked my kamioshi's ASMR since it's allegedly her specialty but… she's REALLY not good at it… IYKYK
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Dumb question that I can't find the answer for: When an indie reincarnates as a corporate chuuba, do they contractually have to retire their indie persona, or could they still stream as their "original" self if they really wanted to? I've noticed that those who were fleshtubers beforehand still stream as themselves on occasion even while being a corporate chuuba on the side but those who specifically had a VTuber identity always graduated before joining the agency.
It makes enough sense that it'd just be too difficult for most people to juggle the streaming schedules and kayfabe for two personas at once, but I've never seen any of them call it a break or indefinite hiatus or something. Then again, I've only bothered looking into PLs of the relatively small amount of chuubas that I'm a fan of, so I might just be uninformed.
>>357874I read secondhand that she wanted to do all the vocals for this song on her own (it's usually a duet) and she's the only one credited in the description, so it seems like it! She's full of surprises, I never would've expected that range from her. All her past lives used the typical Korone voice so I got gaslit into believing that was just her natural voice kek. The deeper voice may not fit the Korone character but I do wish there was some way I could hear her use it more…
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Are you ready for Ao-kun's birthday, nonas?
No. 358552
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>>358525I'm never ready for how our girlfriend makes me feel, but I hope she has a wonderful birthday full of love from her fans and friends!
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>>358799Hime is her female fan name so it's truly for just women…
>Hime/princess is her female fans>picrel is her male fans>makes asmr date voicepack just for the princessesHow much more obvious can she make her intentions
No. 358825
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>>358820Unfortunately, she did make one for both… But her birthday set is so nice, I kind of want to get either the keyholder nui or the matching necklace/choker set.
Also, I love that she calls us 火女 to call us her princesses while moids just get to be the funny mask. I'm eating this shit up helplessly, god.
No. 358939
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>>358887Get it! I just nabbed mine… Happy Yooming!
No. 359082
>>359015I think becoming a Koronesuki is usually the first rec for questionz like this, although you're already into Holo so maybe you have a reason you don't watch her?
Doppio and Salome from Niji are also character-heavy but I don't find them as engaging to watch as Korone and Ao.
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Taking a break from my usual Bettel Ryonaposting to put out some positive energy for the clown. I want him back I miss him and am willing to put down my sadism for a moment if it means he cones back full force.
No. 359522
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Nonnies, I'm gushing out. I hope it's an EP. I would also love this frame without the date for my pc or something.
No. 359545
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>>359522Same nonnies make fun of her music but I love seeing her make the music she likes and I like most of her music too
No. 360505
>>359268I'm
>>359288 and I agree with your opinion. Though I still don't really like Idol. Something about the CEO dating/having dated one of the first talents that debuted gives me an icky feeling.
No. 361127
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Fulgur's new model. The way he talked about it I really thought it was going to be an old bara man. This is just an uglier face with a beard that he can take off. Is it even larger? He said he added the taking off beard feature because he knows not many like it so I guess he does care what his audience wants. I don't like to admit it but it fits his voice. I still don't want the males not being able to pretend to be young handsome men to be a trend though.
No. 361200
>>361127Sorry nonnies, I have bad taste and I actually prefer this to his old model.
Forgive me for my sins.
No. 361210
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>>361200Aruran was my oshi for years, so I don't have an issue with models outside of the usual mold. But I think the way Fulgur's facial hair was drawn looks terrible LOL it looks like he's poorly glued loose hair scraps onto his face.
No. 361211
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>>361127Poorly yassified Silvers Rayleigh…
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POV you’re getting marriedd
No. 361266
>>361224I'm curious who this is about anon
>>361264Despite the anatomical mistakes LAM's artstyle is very pretty and the original models' faces where she/he had the most freedom look amazing. Changing your style to fit these requests better is hard especially when you have to make it suitable for rigging. Hope she/he gets to design a female vtuber next.
No. 361331
>>360560How does it feel to be the second luckiest aokn yume on earth?
>>361127Fucking kek, the glasses covering the eyebrows and the massive (but still flat) nose in contrast with the very distinctly visible nostrils make his face look so blank and flat. On top of that, the poor attempt at a beard and the Sephiroth hairstyle are killing me. This is easily the most devastating downgrade I've seen in a while. This is like backwards Aruran.
No. 361367
>>361326I understand you anon, my side oshi got into that exact content before and I was worried I'd have to watch him rp with randoms all day. Thankfully it didn't stick and he had a few actually funny streams before he stopped streaming it. It's sad to hear that
Kanae is wasting time on that stuff when his fans don't care for it. I guess when you're so big you stop caring about it, what a shame.
No. 361402
>>361367I don't completely blame him because initially it was just something casual he wanted to do with his friends after VCR, but with time they became relevant to the overall story and it became hard to quit (he has tried to multiple times and got pulled back in every time). He does recognize it as a clear issue, which is why he tries to do other content as well and essentially doesn't bring it up whenever he streams on Youtube (his streams of that server and anything related to it are strictly 100% on Twitch). Even with his content being more balanced lately I think after all these months I've gotten a bit detached and it probably won't get better until he completely drops it.
Glad to hear your side oshi got out of it safely, I can find most content fun as long as it's my oshi doing it but there is simply nothing enjoyable about this to me. I just feel like I'm crazy sometimes because there's nothing but positivity when you look at what people have to say about it on Twitter, but I guess vtuber fans tend to be like that.
No. 362136
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New Niji JP wave. They have a separate twitter account and animated MV, so they have plans for another wave with lots of promotions.
No. 362137
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>>362136Here's the models, I like that the purple one has a different style. It might look odd moving though.
No. 362151
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>>362150>I've realized that hololive truly is the golden ticket in this industry>forgets rushia and the countless management issues hololive has including a manager forcing a liver to date him >the Taiwan incident where they pushed the livers under the tank kek but anyways how was the interview process for you nonna? And considering the current contract discourse how's your own been faring so far?
dont tell anything that's under nda No. 362178
>>362151Holo has a relatively decent track record compared to other corpos? I think Mafumafu is a lying piece of shit but her termination was
valid by contract given the way she broke NDA leading up to it. Mel's issues with her manager shouldn't have happened, but they occurred early in Holo's lifespan and were apparently resolved given how long she decided to stay at Holo afterwards until her amicable departure despite NDA break. And in the Taiwan incident Holo literally cut off its entire Chinese branch, that's not "throwing them under the bus". All very different than the active and ongoing issues with other agencies.
Also
>liverstry to be less transparent when you spread your biased misinformation. Your sour grapes aren't everybody else's issue.
No. 362182
>>362151so, i say this because being a hololive talent is guaranteed success and money. being in a small corpo, you are not guaranteed that at all. in fact, i could've made more working minimum wage KEK. it's pretty depressing…
interviewing process was pretty easy, i interviewed at a different corpo prior to my current one. the previous one was a lot more stressful. the 2nd one, it seemed like i didn't really have to…try very hard, because they were sold on me from the get-go it seemed like.
the contract is quite predatory. it favors the company heavily yet has very strict demands for what talents must do. it's 50/50 profit split besides merch, which the corpo gets more of the money from that (it's not 2% though KEK)
>>362180i'm not
>>362178but the money isn't really…anything. at least yet, for me. hopefully i'll get there eventually. you're not obligated to fake-laugh at all kek. but we do have to stream a certain amount of times per week as per the contract. but the amount of leniency the corpo gets in terms of what they have to do is honestly disturbing. i wasn't able to get a lawyer to review it before i signed it, i wish i had. i decided to start vtubing because i'd always wanted to be a streamer but was nervous about being on camera, so vtubing was the easy choice.
No. 362213
>>362208you're allowed to, yeah. but you can't do anything that would even come close to vtubing. that includes doing art, voice acting, etc. anything you did in your "past life" to make money online, you cannot do while under the contract.
but working a normie tier "day job" is fine. a few of my coworkers do that. i am not as i'm still a student, but i've considered it because i'm so lacking in income. i'm lucky that i don't have too many expenses atm due to my circumstances but it's definitely not enough to live on in the US or probably any other western country, it's pretty fucked. probably because i don't lean into any type of nsfw/lewdness at all whatsoever which makes people feel less incentivized to donate. though i'll never waver on my morals for scrotes kek.
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>>362326Hard agree. That's also why Niji EN lost the feeling of a group of friends I want to see grow for me, I don't know if the people that join want to build anything or just flee with numbers. JP has a lot of fun and creative people in it for the long run and it makes me envy people that can understand Japanese well. I like watching their clips and seeing that they have a genuine unique bond with their community and with each other. The fact both Mysta and Kyo had new models ready, which takes months to prepare, right after their "graduation" irritates me so much. Especially Mysta with his month long sob party drying Luxiem fans' wallets. I guess this is the western solo mindset. I admire the vtubers that have been around for 6+ years, then again they built this industry so they were already ambitious people. On the other side I like the bond Tempus seem to have now that the two that weren't fit are out. Vanguard also signed for another year so we know they're still taking it seriously.
No. 362361
>>362150Hi Vtuber nonna! I have a few questions!
Are there specific rules as to who you may talk to?
Is there any girl in your corpo that is making bank?
Are you been helped by managers? What do they do, actually?
Have you seen people talk about you on imageboards? How did it make you feel if so?
No. 362481
>>362361hi nonna!
1. yes, i can't interact with male vtubers. honestly glad bc i don't want to be forced to interact with them lol. but i also have been forbade from interacting with some vtubers (female) that i really want to interact with bc i like their content and think they're funny. but i'm at the mercy of management, if they say no, i'm not allowed to acknowledge their existence. it sucks.
2. probably. i don't know the exact amounts my senpais make but they're surely comfortable. no one really stands out against everyone else though in terms of how much they make.
3. lol. this is funny because up until recently my managers have done fuck all. recently new management came in and are helping alot more. but management helps with things like brainstorming for ideas for streams/videos/shorts. they also pay for things like video editing, art, etc. before recently they mostly only helped when things were specifically asked for, which made me really depressed bc it sucks having to do everything yourself. obviously. if you have more specific questions lmk.
5. no they have not. no one has any idea i post on imageboards and i intend to keep it that way kek. i got exposed to 4chan at a really young age and found lolcow like, the year it was created thanks to /r9k/ iirc. i was never much of a poster, i lurked and occasionally posted when things caught my interest but i was never like, an imageboard personality of any sort. i just enjoy the board culture, probably because i started reading 4chan when i was 12 years old, kek. it definitely fried my brain but i try and look at the positives, i wouldn't have found out about so many things that have changed my life if not for 4chan. like the games i play, shows i love, friends i've met, etc. so i sort of feel like it both damaged my brain and changed my life irreversibly. i wouldn't change it for anything.
No. 362597
>>3624811. What are the general reasons you can't interact with certain female vtubers? Is it that certain indies are not permitted because they clash with brand/are too small or are certain other small corpos not allowed?
2. And would you say you'd still prefer being at a corpo over being an indie? Or rather, what would you recommend as the best use case for joining a small corpo as opposed to staying indie?
3. I don't expect you to answer this one as it may be too specific, but do you have any small corpos you know from behind the scenes to be ones absolutely nobody should apply for? I'm considering doing auditions and I'm worried I'll join one secretly on the verge of collapse kek
4. Do most of your peers have prior streaming experience, or were any allowed in as newbies?
Thanks for answering all these questions, it's been interesting to read all the responses so far.
No. 362685
>>3625971. due to certain vtubers "controversies" we aren't allowed to interact with them. they've said/done things that are questionable. but it was things i didn't even know about prior to joining, so finding out i couldn't interact with certain people was definitely a buzzkill. as for indies, i've not explicitly been told i can't interact with indies. i've not had much experience around indies to be honest.
2. i still prefer it over being indie because i made literally nothing as an indie. like, i basically made $80 every few months or so as an indie. so the money i make now is considerably better, but it's still not a livable wage, and much, much more goes into being a corpo vtuber than an indie, at least for me. i mostly was an indie vtuber as a hobby rather than trying to make a career out of it. twitch was brutal for growth and i had no idea how to market myself.
3. lol the only one i would really say is vreverie, which isn't really insider info, it's just obvious lol. you could have guessed this just from looking at how everyone except their biggest talent and one other person have not left yet. they're still planning on debuting their gen 3 which is surprising. i feel bad for nova. i don't know about other corpos though. i would definitely not recommend anyone join nijisanji though.
4. all of my peers even if they weren't vtubers/streamers prior were proficient in something: singing, art, etc. most of them were small indies/streamers but there's a few that had never actually been a vtuber/streamer before, but they were really talented and charismatic so they were given a spot. i do think having any amount of streaming experience would make you more likely to get in. it probably just depends on the corpo more than anything. plus thinking about like, what the corpo is looking for. like oftentimes they already have designs created and are looking for someone to fit into a certain design, so they want a specific type of voice or personality. so even if you don't get in you should always keep applying because they'll remember you and see you get more experienced and improve as you continue to make content, whatever it may be.
np nonna, it's fun to answer these lol. if you have any more questions lmk.
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Suisei got a new outfit and it's making me feel things.
No. 362869
>>362702Do you know what goes into an auditon video? Everytime I look one up for reference it's always
>highly edited video>their funniest clips>a slight introduction>filled with memes and popular twitter referencesIs there a standard for audition videos, or do we just go in blind and look like an idiot for 10 minutes?
No. 362904
>>362869so i know some people go above and beyond for their audition videos. i used to do like, heavily scripted audition videos where i ended up sounding super nervous and not even speaking in my normal voice tone. the audition that got me into my corpo, i was sleep deprived and sent it on a whim- did a few stupid edits in the windows Photos app but nothing that would actually qualify it as "edited" kek. i just talked about myself and started with a bang, talking about what i think makes me stand apart from other vtubers, and this ended up working in my favor. it really depends on what you're good at. are you really good at singing? video editing? art? video games? chat interaction? whatever it is, you should tell them right away, within the first 30 seconds. that's really the most important part, the rest is just fluff. i wouldn't say that filling it with memes/popular twitter references is going to get you very far, you just sound like another vtweeter indie that way. what makes you,
you? show them quickly and grab their attention. at the end my auditions i typically included at least 1-2 clips from my channel that i thought were pretty funny. cause like, say in your audition you claim to be good at bouncing off of chat. well, you want to show them that, right? so, include clips that you think show this off. definitely don't make the clips take up more than like, 1:00-1:30 though. i think audition videos are usually around 5 minutes long.
things i like to talk about in my auditions are:
1. (most important) what am i good at? what sets me apart from other vtubers?
2. why do i want to join a corpo, especially this specific corpo? what do they offer to me, and what do i offer to them? (i mentioned wanting to make female friends and wanting to see big ideas i have come to life)
3. substantiating my claims to question 1, prove to them what you mention at the start. i showed screenshots and proof of what i'm good at.
4. having a sense of humor is good, i did that too, but like- not really in a meme way. just my own humor lol, adding stuff i thought looked goofy and saying things the way i'd speak to a friend- because think about it. they want to see how you're going to be as a streamer. so, imagine you're streaming when you make the video, that's another good piece of advice i could give.
godspeed nonna! if you really want to get in i believe you can. i struggled hard trying to get into a corpo and failed many previous auditions, i tried for over a year. i was so happy to have finally made it. if it's really what you want, never give up!
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>>362137I don't listen to any JP vtubers because of language barrier but Kaisei's design caught my eye immediately, since I'm partial to anime characters who look like they enjoy scheming for money. I also like Gamma's (Holostars) design so their model artist is 2 for 2 for me. At this point in time I kinda wonder what other active JP Niji vtubers think these days when yet another new wave comes in though, now more than ever before compared to how the landscape was 2 years or so ago. Except for the top ones who already know they're firmly and securely established.
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Every year Holofest puts into perspective how big and far away they are compared to other corpos or even scattered factions. I have seen the discussion being thrown around before, do you think there is a difference between liking vtubers and liking Hololive? They are so massive, but they barely if ever interact with anyone else nowadays. Seeing "vtuber awards" in the west all past year ignoring Hololive is… interesting.
Anyway, I was just thinking about that as I wait for my soup to be done. Did anyone went to Holofest? It seems so much fun, though, the food is way too expensive for what it looks like!
No. 363130
>>361127Oh hell nah. He looks like a middle- to late-aged redditor.
>>362150May I ask a ballpark range of how many subs/followers you had before applying? It's okay if this is too dox-y!
No. 363309
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Predictable but still cute that he brought his brother to Japan with him.
No. 363974
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My oshi has knocked off yet something else from her bucketlist, she has made an ending for an anime.
Congrats Mori.
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I think it's great that Pomu went from posting nudes on 4chan to being a well-respected vtuber, to back to school now. I'm being 100% unironic when I say this. I never closely followed her but it seems like she's had some really nice growth out of a cringe and troubled past.
No. 364280
>>364147Seems like we are keeping this thread fairly drama free, so I won't bring up the past too much, but she has more info on the dox website everyone uses and a page on here from a few years ago.
Seems like she didn't do anything insanely milky, just being a white weeb with a japan aidoru dream in the 2010s. A few months ago, someone dug up her old nudes and they were getting reposted all over 4chan, and she had to go on streaming like nothing happened. Honestly I found it admirable.>>364244I'll never be a FWMC fan because the kayfabe is just too far for me but Kiara and Pomu seem nice. It's nice seeing cow good endings sometimes.
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Bunch of Ao-yumes from Holofest. Surprised there hasn't been discussion about the event around here. It was a lot of fun.
No. 364328
>>364325I also feel annoyed these days that 'graduation' could mean anything from 'I'm never touching the internet again' to 'I'm going to stream on my old persona 2 hours later.'
I guess on the flipside, though, if someone's leaving a corporation because it's
toxic or they're sick of management, what can they say in the graduation stream? 'Niji's a shithole, I'll see you guys in one week'? Can't say that'd go down well.
btw please I don't want to dredge up the niji drama again, I'm just giving an example since a lot of people seem to be jumping from the niji ship recently. Niji stans don't come for me No. 364803
>>362326It's hard to get attached to the character, but personally I like the personality, so idc. They'll do what makes sense for them financially. Though I admit that the new names take getting used to.
You can't get attached to a company. The people are fine after you look up pl stuff.
In jp, they're supposed to allow themselves to be overworked to the point of karoshi, so graduating is usually better. It's like someone switching jobs. The arguments about poaching and betraying friends are weird. It's the company that decides you can't collab with talents after going indie. Or do certain things using their model. All hardwork at the company will disappear anyways, so you gotta work hard to build your own thing.
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Axel got his first new outfit, he looks pretty nice imo. He said it took so long because he insisted on getting it done by his art mama, he was warned that she is very busy but Axel really wanted her to do it. Cute
No. 364994
New Ao cover! After holofes, I'm excited for when ReGloss their 3Ds. And Advent too. I know FWMC has mixed reactions here but they seem like they'll be good performers on stage.
>>364092Although I miss her as Pomu, it is nice to see her living her best life right now. It's nice to see her tweet fangirly stuff about her hobbies.
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>host
>ikemen
>ikevoice
>looks are yume material
>personality is yume material
>height: 173cm
Why do they do this? They can be anything they want, why did they make him short?
No. 365487
>>364328Agree to disagree in the graduation bit. I like the reassurance that they can come back. I was never too attached to the models anyways. (Except Selen — I wanted to chomp that fluff. But Doki's new model has its own charm.)
The only tough part is getting used to the new name and wondering if/when. I wanna know if Mika will come back.
Most people aren't gonna give up corpo fame after putting years into a persona. But in case they do, it's nice to know where to find them on other socials.
No. 365492
>>362326The reason jp chuubas don't graduate left and right is because in Japan, BOTH the company and the employee (including contractor, afaik) need to agree for them to be able to leave. So, once you get in, you're stuck. (Source: Joey aka TheAnimeMan did an interview with a former underground idol who worked with Kiara. Both parties entered the contract together so they need to agree to leave. And she mentioned they owned the image for 3 years after she left. As in, she was contacted by a further manager to remove a picture of herself under her old name from social media.)
Thus, JP talent looks a lot more together cz there's a lot more control. There's a general teamwork mentality, yes, but the inability of a lot of people to just leave also plays a role in the whole thing. Plus, most viewers only get clips, so we're don't get full cultural context to some things. It's like going looking for pl: you don't have to, but no one will stop you if you go looking for whenever bs JP talents got themselves into. And there's supposedly a lot, but I heard that on nyfco so take it with a grain of salt. I think one dude confessed to Sakura Dating. We get the filtered version via clips. Most clippers won't tell you about their oshi's need with another Vtuber OR their indiscretions. There's financial loss if they've been allowed to monetize it. There's attachment towards a chuuba. And there's some actual people who will brush off the issues to preserve harmony. If there's cliques or fighting, the clippers will avoid covering that. And everyone is cordial, even if there not besties. It's like a class full of children being forced to work together. Or rather, an office. Sorry if I popped your bubble. I hope you go into it knowing what's up and why.
BTW, Mirei Gundou re-debuted.
No. 365569
>>365498I thought that was Ao-kun. I also thought he was Hex Haywire for a second.
But the party about no one being perfect still stands. If you wanna send any
clips of him, I'm interested.
What made you simp and do you have something you show us?
No. 367032
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I like her new outfit
No. 367374
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>>365485>>365498Kekkk
>>367032Me too, she and Fauna are so cute together. They look like those weird girls in school who only had each other as friends.
No. 369308
>>369178Well she was replying to
>>367933who asked which vtubers work hard (not if they're pickmes) which, like them or not, isn't a lie.
Personally I used to love Ame for that reason, the way she always had creative ideas and organized the 3D collabs, how she took singing lessons and improved as an idol… but I feel like she's burnt out atm
No. 369399
>>369308Oh yeah, my bad, I thought they were replying to
>>368405 who mentioned not being pickmes.
>>369320Ntayrt. I don't vibe with Fuwamoco for many reasons that have already been debated on this thread. (And tbh, I still think they are trying to sound ESL. A ton of fans think they're Japanese or mixed Canadian-Japanese, which is 100% false. They are white.) But I will admit that they seem like they try to stream a lot and come out with new content, and they're really devoted to their schtick, as much as I dislike said schtick.
Inb4 'they just really like and respect Japanese culture' - imo you can like Japanese and speak fluent Japanese without pretending to be ESL. Everyone knows Kiara is German yet super interested in Japanese culture.
No. 369653
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yesterday surefour did an "official" vtuber stream with his model. i don't like the design…
No. 369704
>>369280Kenmochi doesn't like the idol tag? Til. You got a clip for that, anon?
And does that mean they were all parking Kenmochi?
No. 370348
>>369704There's another clip where the others do idol-like poses and he chases them down again. Unrelated but it's so funny when they look at Kaida and his model is tall but it's obvious they're all looking down at him kek
>>369473Same, I also loved when Hibari covered 嘘 (joke/lie) for last year's April Fools. Holostars' "new debuts" with the weird models were funny too. That's the type of thing that makes you remember it for a long time. Genderbend especially without any proper preparation is just unfunny.
No. 372485
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I don't think I've ever had such a hard time looking at the face of a vtuber model this expensive. I can't tell if she's supposed to look scrunched up all the time or if this it's an issue with the tracking.
(Chuuba is Vshojo's new Michi Mochievee AKA Mika Melatika)
The character design is also just kind of shit? Too much going on for my tastes.
No. 372614
>>372485The creeping rabbit bow is very hideous. I don't know why we need another revived zombie vtuber, I thought that was Kuro's thing even though Kuro honestly gives no shits about kayfabe. I highly doubt Mika will play it up for very long either, vshojo itself is the epitome of streamers that barely bother to play into their model characters.
The lore video is nothing but one big shitpost and a very transparent cry for money. Mika can't even voice act, her mic peaks multiple times from being too loud.
No. 372695
>>372657She probably has the vtuber studio settings set up incorrectly: when her irl eyes are open 100%/neutrally, the model eyes are probably only open 50% or something.
Kind of weird rookie mistake.
No. 372854
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It's so damn ugly, looks exactly like one of those webtoon male leads kek. Jesus. Is 2024 the year of bad designs or what?
No. 372881
>>372854Why are men
triggered so hard by being bishounen?
No. 372968
>>372854You're kidding me, this is real? The facial hair looks like a child drew it on with sharpie while he was sleeping, it's even worse than Fulgur's. They need to stop asking their poor mama for this shit.
I'm not against designs outside the standard bishonen box but it's not what their mama does well and I feel bad for her that she has to keep putting this shit out.
No. 372998
>>372854KEK the pinhead, ugly man psyop at it again
>sekiro wannabe>not a single scarFag
No. 373033
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>>372854dollar store vesper and an asian stereotype…kindred and comfydants really going through it rn
No. 373053
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>>373033Honestly? Dollar store Shinri. Nijimen want to be Holo's quality male hags so bad
No. 373218
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>>373065Some of them have done great stuff with the connected lore, and I think it's an interesting project that lends a sense of unity as they contribute to it. They've allowed them to work more with it ever since Armis debuted, too, with Shinri being allowed to delve into worldbuilding more.
Also I used to be such a hater on Shinri'a art but getting a shirt made such a difference for him kek no wonder he wanted it so badly. I want to see him get his VN design as an official outfit though, he got the best design out of thay affair.
No. 374644
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The one good Phase design/voice duo IMO (ayase yuu from their newish JP debuts)