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RIP Rachael Lilis edition
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>>>/m/186496>>>/m/320917>>>/m/377133>>>/m/403600 No. 433511
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>>433494nonner you misspelled her name
>>433245I don't know what Pokemon could represent my country other than Arboliva because it's Mediterranean.
No. 433515
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>>433245Cute! Toxtricity can represent my Britbong city, we're associated with punk music and shit like that
No. 433569
>>433494Beautiful cover photo, it's still hard to believe that Rachel Lillis passed away this year… She really is a Pokemon treasure and Misty & Jessie were just not as fun (imo) when Rachel got let go from voicing them.
RIP Rachel Lillis, you will be sorely missed.
No. 433580
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>>433477Archaeopteryx was kind of a weird choice for Gamefreak to base the Unova (New York) fossil-species on. North America is much more known for stegosaurus and tyrannosaurs. Iirc the best T Rex specimens have mostly been found in the United States. Archeops and Tyrunt should have swapped places, with Archeops being found in Kalos (France) and Tyrunt being found in Unova (U.S.). I think Trubbish is cuter than Muk or Grimer, and I'm okay with it being a Murrica Pokémon lmao. The Samurai-inspired-Oshawott line is a bizarre choice for a region based on America. I feel like the water starter should have been a surfer or something instead. Damask and Kofagrigus were weird, too, like why is there Egypt-inspired stuff in the America region? I feel like there are way better American cultural concepts they could have based a ghost Pokémon off of. Honestly? Pumpkaboo and Gorgeist shouldn't have been in Kalos, either. Pumpkins originate from North America and are heavily associated with American Thanksgiving.
No. 433587
>>433580Not all pokemon fit into the region they originate it, like what do pandas have to do with France? Overall they do make maybe 30% that seem to reference the real life country/region, but most are just normal pokemon.
Though I do think it's fun to TRY to see if it was intentional so here's my attempt:
>Archaeopteryx was kind of a weird choice for Gamefreak to base the Unova >Damask and Kofagrigus were weird, too, like why is there Egypt-inspired stuff in the America region?I think this may not be intended to tie into American history, but to the fact that the Nacrene city gym is also a museum. So it's more that they thought "what kind of cool stuff can you find in a western museum" and went from there. Also kofagrigus could be a reference to movies, since Hollywood is also heavily referenced in BW.
>The Samurai-inspired-Oshawott line is a bizarre choice for a region based on AmericaPossibly because they see America as a melting pot of cultures, so every starter is from a different culture. Especially because to them as Japanese people the US isn't "home" so they didn't care to make the starters feel native to the region. They don't care that there isn't a "true American" starter, they just want to have a Japanese samurai starter they can play with there as Japanese people visiting. I think that's a shame, I'd love a gimmicky cowboy starter kek
>Pumpkaboo and Gorgeist shouldn't have been in Kalos, either.Perhaps they were partly thinking of it in terms of fairy tales, like how it transforms in Cinderella into a carriage. Fairy type had it's debut in Kalos so it wouldn't surprise me. Sometimes it may also just be their personal experience. We know they sometimes go to a country to do research on it, so if they happened to go to modern France around halloween and saw pumpkins they may very well use that as if it was a French thing because to them it is. I have to say it's very funny that they gave the French region a frog starter, that is a bold move kek
No. 433602
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>>433587>it's very funny that they gave the French region a frog starter, that is a bold move kekAgree, that's hilarious. Something also appropriately French that I remember about XY is how Route 7 is full of landscape painters and Smeargles. I feel like Smeargle is a very French-seeming Pokémon, what with its little barret and striped arms.
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Having a dedication thread where you misspell her name seems disrespectful, if I'm being honest.
No. 433627
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>>433613Sorry about that, by the time i noticed it was too late to delete
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>>433627don't worry nona, half of the anons on this site can't even read anyway kek
we all know it was well-intended so let's not fight over it
No. 433758
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New thread, new hate! Tell me a pokemon you hate (or just dislike) for a reason you know is stupid and undeserved!
I'll go first, I can't stand cherrim anymore because the overcast form's face is by the legs like this and I found it so ugly I felt betrayed when I first found out about it
No. 433813
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>>433758Castform because its default form looks like it has a scrotum. It's such a cute concept for a Pokémon ruined by retarded design choices. How hard would it have been to just make the body more cloud-like?
No. 433891
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>>433758i never much liked pikachu (raichu superemacy) but i hate him since i started playing UNITE. he's extremely annoying in game with the constant loud pikapika cries (no other poke cries out constantly) and he's totally broken.
the tourist skin makes it worse, he looks like every other american or japanese retard in paris who feels the need to wear striped shirts and berets from a souvenir store
No. 433892
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>>433758Delphox because I was delusionally hopeful that we wouldn't get yet another bipedal fire starter, and I was let down. I have an inordinate amount of bitterness toward this Pokemon because the fan evolutions looked so good, and Delphox is so ugly by comparison. Maybe I wouldn't hate it so bad if I hadn't gotten my hopes up.
No. 433898
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>>433813Castform is indeed ugly wasted potential.
>>433758My petty Pokémon grudge is Chien-Pao. Its sword fangs are a legitimately cool concept, but for some reason the designer made them
clip through its face and give it hideous black spots. I can't get over such a noticeable and retarded design choice kek
No. 433920
>>433898God same, when all the pokemon leaked I thought that one was so nice but then I noticed the stabbed swords on its face.
Also I don't get why we got chinese legendaries on a spanish region. Not that all pokemon should follow a region's inspiration, but Spain has some cool legends and history to use and reading those names caught me off-guard.
No. 433994
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>>433892I don't know how else would they design a witch Pokemon while having it remain bipedal. And Delphox being a witch is central to its design.
No. 433997
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>>433758Palafin's hero form. It's ugly, gross, stupid looking and it ruins Finizen which is a very cute pokémon.
No. 433998
>>433920>Also I don't get why we got chinese legendaries on a spanish region. It's basically tradition at this point, gen one had a native american thunderbird and western phoenix, gen 3 had hebrew golems, gen 6 had nordic mythos etc I think they more often than not use another country's legends. I don't mind it too much, I don't think a region should be too tied to the real life country.
>reading those names caught me off-guard.This I will agree with though, using fully chinese names in a non-chinese region is a bit too far. I can accept the tapus having hawaiian names in the hawaii region, especially when the dex establishes that there are basically "hawaiian" names for pokemon like vulpix. But to randomly throw in chinese out of nowhere seems weird. I'd rather they call them frostcat or whatever so we can have a relationship to the names that isn't just "oh they're from real world china, which doesn't even exist in the games at this point in time"
No. 434027
>>433758Pokémon that have weird colour changes after evolution. Probably the most famous one is Dratini/Dragonair going from a blue snake to some Deviant ripoff with a derpy face. But I also don't get Pokémon like Krookodile, nothing much is wrong with it's design change from Krokorok aside from the fact that it goes from brown and black to red and black.
Also I hate Pokémon that look like homosexuals, mostly because Roselia went from cutie to washed up twink. At least if they originally looked gay I wouldn't care but imagine becoming attached to your water starter and it evolves into Primarina. Bipedal Pokémon are the worst for this
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Happy ORAS 10th anniversary!!!
No. 434048
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>>434001You could just make it basically the same as before, just quadropedal. Or you could make the fur on the head + ears resemble a witches hat, maybe some floating magic fireballs around it. Make the fur pattern colors resemble witch attire and make the attacks obviously magic/spell casting inspired
No. 434049
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>>434018I'm sorry anon but nothing could ever make me hate the Draco Malfoy snake
No. 434056
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>>434049same, he's one of my fave starters. i love how smug and superior the whole line looks. then again i love all the snek 'mons
No. 434167
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>>433994AYRT and I personally wouldn't have gone the witch direction at all for the evolutions. I don't really like it when Pokemon are trying to be something other than cool animals/objects. Like, I also hate Cinderace, Incineroar, and Emboar because it feels like the focus is on the career/pop culture figure they represent as opposed to just being a creature? This is obviously just personal preference, but I don't think a Pokemon has to be anything but a cool creature, y'know?
>>434001NTA but for me personally, I would've maybe leaned more into the mystical side of things- maybe modeled it more after the Oracle of Delphi and played into the eternal flame within that mythos. I' probably lean into a design more akin to Suicune-type design. If it needs to be strictly a Halloween-type witch, I think having a quadrupedal spellcaster who carries its wand in its mouth would be cute! They could even make the ears look more like a witch's hat. Either way, I think a more mystical/ethereal look could've done wonders. I'm not a very creative person, so I'm sure these ideas aren't the best lol. I also have seen some cool fan designs, and I think something like picrel with a magic wand could be good; the flame vaguely looks like a hat already. Regardless, the people designing these monsters ARE creative, and they should be able to find a way to incorporate some witchy elements into a quadrupedal creature. I still think the right move would be to have not gone the witch direction with Braixen and Delphox in the first place, but that boils down to personal preference. I think Pokemon designs are at their best when they're more like cool monsters/creatures.
No. 434170
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>>434027roserade is one of the only "humanoid plant" pokemon that look good. it's not coom, and it's clever for pretty much making it a whole flower with some human features, the petals being hair is a great idea.
No. 434181
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>>434048That's a nice design, but it does not fit the whole RPG character archetype theme they were going for with the Kalos starters. It would feel out of place next to Chesnaught and Greninja.
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>>434167>Like, I also hate Cinderace, Incineroar, and Emboar because it feels like the focus is on the career/pop culture figure they represent as opposed to just being a creature?That's a very common opinion that people have. But one Pokemon that a lot of people love is Ludicolo despite being blatantly being just that.
No. 434244
>>434184I actually don't think Ludicolo is the best example of this; Machoke and Machamp are much better examples of what I'm talking about, and coincidentally, I don't like them, either. As for Ludicolo, I don't think he's trying to 'represent' anything in the way Delphox or Machoke are. It's just a pineapple. I cannot think of a career or a pop culture figure that would be represented by a giant, furry pineapple. Yes, his head kind of looks like a sombrero, but he's not so heavily… themed? I'm not terribly fond of Ludicolo's design, though, so it doesn't really make a difference.
>>434181To be fair, I also think Chesnaught is ugly as sin lmao. He could've also stood to be a little more toned-down. I don't think they should've pushed the JRPG thing so hard when the end result is so unpleasant to look at (in my eyes). Greninja's at least subtle-looking in its theme, so it's not as obnoxious, but I'm still not a huge fan of Greninja. For the record, I picked Fennekin on my first playthrough and just didn't evolve it because I didn't want to have yet another bipedal starter with such an ugly design.
No. 434264
>>434184Not even comparable in my opinion! Ludicolo is a round pineapple, a kappa, a duck, some kind of plant with mittens for hands and stubby legs, striped fur/feathers(?) - that happens to have a little bit of mexican flavor in the design. It's a creature first, the human culture is just flavor.
Compare that to incineroar who is a wrestler wearing a cat costume, it has a human male body, human proportioned hands and feet and even opposable thumbs, fur pattern like human clothes, and it's entire deal is acting like a human wrestler in a human society. It's straight up a human first, the fact that it's a creature is very secondary.
It's not even that they're just a "pop culture reference" thing either, delibird is santa but because it's a creature first and has santa flavor later it doesn't come across as odd or unnatural. I can imagine delibird living in the arctic like a penguin, but I cannot imagine a wild incineroar because that's just a human with a human job.
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>>434259"gender unknown" has never been about whether they actually have genders or not. The Pokemon in this image are all "gender unknown" but all of them are treated as female.
What's strange is that it's not about knowing how they reproduce either because gendered Pokemon like Latios and Latias are in the "No eggs discovered" egg group too. It's really weird.
No. 434373
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>>434218People with no taste claim that she is the worst Johto starter, when clearly that honour goes to
Cyndaquil No. 434375
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>>434373But I like Cyndaquil… Look how cozy and cute she looks…
No. 434394
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>>434218It's not "hate", Grass starters are just always the worst (or least good) choice to pick aside from Bulbasaur in Kanto, and the Johto region especially is a very hostile region towards Grass-types. So picking Chikorita is almost like playing in hard mode.
No. 434396
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>>434394>grass starters are always the worstSerperior would like a word. But yeah Chestnaught is indefensible.
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>>433515Barbaracle is a good fit for Michigan
>covered in hands (mitten state)>water type (the lakes)>rock type (Petoskey stones) No. 434460
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>>434397But nona, have you considered that Serperior looks cool, which makes it a good grass starter?
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>>433758i hate this because it doesn't evolve from luvdisc
No. 434474
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>>433758medicham cause of its weird donut lips and boob legs
No. 434480
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>>434474this stupid thing is so fucking ugly. fighting type has the largest collection of uggos of all types
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>>434474take it back nona I love her
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If anyone has played this fan game, is it worth it? I love Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, and I've seen a bunch of positive reviews about this one. Is it different enough from Explorers of Sky to justify playing it instead of replaying Sky again?
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Anyone else like making playlists for their favorites?
No. 434609
>>434488>kyogreIn the Crown Tundra, Peony says this when you show him Kyogre: “Whoa! Is that Kyogre? The Pokémon they say created the seas?! If the ocean's the mother of all life…and Kyogre's the mother of the ocean… Should we all be callin' Kyogre our nan?! Listen up, Chief… You better be nice and gentle with that Kyogre!"
>XerneasIt’s female in the Diancie movie.
>none of them are called "she" as if it was a personThey are called “she” in Mystery Dungeon
No. 434653
>>434540Nta, but just watch some male youtubers talking about pokemon and they'll still casually call chikorita the "girl" of the trio. Pretty sure Ash's chikorita was female too so that's part of it
It's actually kind of weird, the world in the 90s/early 00s was so focused on separating girl and boys toys. Pink and flowers were for girls, trucks and monsters for boys. Yet pokemom back then were all fairly neutral, people did absolutely act like meganium was the girl choice but looking at it it's actually pretty neutral. Then flash forward to today when the world overall is more equal, now the starters get more and more separated by gender stereotypes and look more human than ever
No. 434668
>>434657>I don't think any other starter truly was seen as the "girl choice" again until primarina in gen 7 but correct me if I missed anyone!Serperior
Also Blaziken and Empoleon but that’s probably influenced by the animu
No. 434672
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don't care for older Ingo but I love that he raised the amount of cute tangela art, tangela is the best
No. 434673
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Please help me pick which starter I should choose for my FRLG playthrough. I love them all so I can't make up my mind.
https://strawpoll.com/xVg71wBbeyr No. 434715
>>434668>Serperior>Also Blaziken and EmpoleonVery strongly disagree with all, blaziken is basically a fighting manchicken and both serperior and empoleon look like kings/royals. None look female, and never have I ever seen them referred to as such (until now). Even if you personally see them as female it's definitely not a fandom consensus like primarina or meowscarada
>>434670I agree that delphox was the female choice
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>>434056>>434049I fucking LOVE Smugleaf, as soon as I saw it from the leaks I knew I had to pick it as my starter. I even bought this exact Snivy plush at a local convention (back when Black and White were still the newest Pokémon games) and treated it like a pet, kek.
Tepig is cute and all, but I just don't like Emboar's design, and Samurott didn't convince me either (too cluttered?). Serperior's design is peak, I don't care that its stats and movepool are shit.
I think I tend to prefer the reptilian or amphibian-looking starters, they're usually sleek and cool, and
usually don't look like furry bait, but rather, they stay true to the original idea of being cool battle monsters in the early gens. There are exceptions, though, like in Sinnoh, where I didn't like Turtwig/Torterra that much and prefer Chimchar/Infernape, since I also happen to like monke. I used to think I just preferred Grass types until I noticed this, and the fact that Totodile and Froakie are also my favorites from their respective regions.
What are you guys' starter preferences? Do you have a type preference or is it about the design or real-life animal the starter is based on for you?
>>434394>Grass starters are just always the worst (or least good) choice to pick aside from Bulbasaur in KantoWhat about Treecko in Hoenn? The whole region is water types, lol. It seems that you're strictly talking about their usefulness in battles, and not about the design like other nonas.
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>>434668I feel like more people I knew treated Oshawott as the 'girly choice' more than Snivy, which is a shame when Snivy is the cutest of the three.
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>>434668>>434657There have been some starters that were a bit more feminine or "made for girls", but none of them appeared particularly girly, except perhaps the Chikorita line, until we got Primarina.
>KantoThe Bulbasaur line have a flower on their back, but I don't remember reading or hearing anyone, IRL or online calling it a girly pokémon. It's even Bulbagarden's mascot. In the manga, Green (Leaf's counterpart) has a Blastoise, while Red has a Venusaur. And Blastoise isn't girly at all.
>JohtoMeganium is a flower dinosaur thing, but I never saw it or Bayleef as exclusively female or super feminine despite their cute happy faces, although Chikorita does give the impression of being female because of the name ending in -a, the "necklace" it has, and the anime influence. I might just be gaslighting myself and it's possible that I actually had a different impression when I was a kid, however. Other people definitely seem to consider it a feminine pokémon.
>HoennBlaziken isn't feminine at all in its original design and I haven't seen other people consider it the "girl choice" (furries are delusional, they feminize and pornify any creature standing on two legs, so take their opinion with a grain of salt). I think it's pretty popular with boys, and that's probably why it got a Mega before the other two Hoenn starters.
>SinnohPiplup might be cute "for the girls", but Empoleon doesn't look particularly feminine.
>UnovaSnivy is neutral, while I think Serperior is considered by some to be feminine, but it's not a consensus. I always thought it was just regal and saw it as more masculine or neutral. Furry scrotes obviously disagree and pornify the fuck out of it, but then again, they sexualize everything remotely "unmanly" and feminize it until it's unrecognizable.
>KalosDelphox is more "feminine" than the other starters, but the design appears to have a robe, not a dress, so it looks pretty neutral to me. My ex who is a Pokémon fan
and a coomer, so even some coomers disagree picked Fennekin and named it after Harry Potter, kek. On the other hand, Braixen is, unfortunately, more obviously feminine, so it became a furrycoomer favorite.
>AlolaThis one is obvious. Primarina shouldn't have been a starter.
>GalarNone are particularly feminine, despite the three being the most furry set of starters up to that point.
>PaldeaQuaquaval? It can look either faggy or feminine depending on who you ask, kek. Meowscarada looks neutral to me, but I'd understand if people thought it looks feminine. God I hate these furbait starters.
>>434491Can't say I ever experienced this, since I didn't have many friends who played Pokémon, but I did detect some retarded biases around starter pokémon sometimes on the internet. Like fire types being "the cool ones" for boys. Chorizard is popular in my country, but so are Squirtle (probably due to a meme) and its evolutions, while Bulbasaur is mostly forgotten but not hated.
>>434755>people I knew treated Oshawott as the 'girly choice' more than Snivy, which is a shame when Snivy is the cutest of the three.Why is it "a shame" that people don't think a cute pokémon is "girly"? Girly isn't synonymous with cute.
No. 434801
>>434770This is the level of sperging I expect from all you other nonas too!
>Piplup might be cute "for the girls", but Empoleon doesn't look particularly feminine.This, I think this is where a lot of people get confused. Blaziken isn't the girl choice, but torchic is the cutest one and therefor got favored by girls. But everyone likes a cute first stage starter, so it's still not considered girly by the fandom just from that.
>Primarina shouldn't have been a starter.Preach. Honestly just yeet every coomer bait and furry out of pokemon forever.
>Meowscarada looks neutral to meThat's insane to me, it looks the most coomer bait out of any starter we've ever had! It's even got a miniskirt/shorts and a girly hairstyle instead of ears
>Quaquaval? It can look either faggy or feminine depending on who you ask, kekTbh I have not even really seen coomers sexualize it, it's too gay even for them. I only see "queer ally" type of people like it. You know the kind of people who see an obviously traumatized child and tell them they were born in the wrong body and need to be mutilated to be happy and not kill themselves.
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>>434801>it looks the most coomer bait out of any starter we've ever had!I guess you're right, I was probably so disgusted by Meowscarada and try to avoid looking at it so much that I forgot how bad it is, kek. It
is very coomer, but I thought it was a bit more neutral so both male and female furfags could like it, that one Meowscaradafag probably psyopped me into thinking that. It's just furry coombait Roserade, I don't know why they thought such a design and concept (that had already been done 1000 times better) would be a good idea.
As for Quaquaval, which I also avoid looking at, I personally thought it looked gayer than feminine, aside from it being a terrible design even for coomers.
Also, IDK about you guys, but even before the final stages were revealed, I thought Sprigatito was a weak design for a starter. It feels like the plant elements weren't fully incorporated into the cat "base", and it becomes really noticeable in its final evolution. Floragato is pretty cool, but it suffers from the same problem, it would be much better if they didn't expect me to believe it's a Grass-type pokémon and wasn't green.
>>434786Ah ok, I can see the connection now, I thought you meant your girl friends who liked Pokémon. Yeah, fuck little scrotes for pressuring girls to do what the boys want instead of letting girls play freely.
OT but boys are rude pieces of shit who band together and appropriate jungle gyms and bouncy castles, completely ignoring the girls who are usually left waiting for their turn. Me and my sister experienced this in our childhood and I've seen it happen recently at work. So glad I was too shy to hang out with gamer boys, they "mean older brother syndrome" towards gamer girls.Anyway, that's retarded, there could've been two Snivy users with different movesets (isn't that the point of Pokémon? That each individual is unique with its gender, shinyness, IVs, ability, characteristic, moves, stats, etc.?), but those boys obviously didn't give a shit and just wanted to gatekeep you for no reason. I'm sorry that happened to you.
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just want to say i'm sorry for the experiences of you all as kids in this thread. i was definitely outnumbered by all the boy pokemon fans but i was never made fun of because i was a known bully who would beat up boys when we were that age (RIP to the way girls start off taller/as strong as boys but then we grow into being weaker.) they didn't treat me any different for the pokemon i liked or battled with or played with as toys. i never heard "bulbasaur is for girls" or whatever else. wish i had been at your guys' schools or daycares so i could have roped you into my girl friend group and scared the boys into respecting you.
No. 434817
>>434815>even before the final stages were revealed, I thought Sprigatito was a weak design for a starter. It feels like the plant elements weren't fully incorporated into the cat "base", and it becomes really noticeable in its final evolution.Personally I don't mind grass pokemon not being super "planty", if they at least read as somewhat grass type, and also instead lean into their other design inspiration - in this case a cat. The problem is they didn't lean into either grass type or cat for meowscarada, they instead drew a human furry magician which only sort of kinda has a plant + cat theme. Both the cat and the plant feels tacked on last minute.
I think sprigatito on its own is fine though, it's on par with litten also just being a cat.
>>434816>i was never made fun of because i was a known bully who would beat up boysKEK nona
No. 434818
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>>434027>Pokémon that look like homosexuals, mostly because Roselia went from cutie to washed up twinkWhat kind of mental illness is this? Roserade is obviously based on the concept of masquerades, I'm sorry that you associate pretty, half-lidded eyes with faggots. Like the other anons said, Roserade is more reminiscent of a masculine "bifauxnen" woman than a gay man or drag queen, kek. But even without that association, you could imagine Roserade as being inspired by the idea of elegant mysterious men wearing a mask. If anything, male Roserade in human form would be bishies à la Tuxedo Mask, not fags. It's so non-human looking, I don't know how you can come to the conclusion that it's a gay man.
Also, Primarina is absolutely not supposed to be that, it's just that all starters happen to have a 87.5/2.5 male/female ratio, while whoever designed Primarina obviously had a "female pokémon" in mind, considering that all those """"feminine"""" legendary pokémon are also (internally) considered to be female despite officially being of an "unknown gender", not to mention that GF would never make a drag queen starter (lmao). In general I just think people associating sexes (or whole human identities) to pokémon based on human biases is weird, especially when things like male Primarina happen because of shit planning or programming or design on GF's part. It's like trannies saying Marill is trans because of that programming bug. Male Roselia existed before Roserade, are they faggots too since they have long lashes and roses are "effeminate" according to some idiots? Kek.
In all honesty, though… I love Roserade, but even I thought that the design change from Roselia to Roserade was too radical. Both Roserade and Budew are so obviously from a different generation than Roselia that it is a bit jarring.
>>434816Based scrotelet destroyer
nonnie, I would've loved to join your gang, but I was too socially awkward to scream at other kids. Best I could've done is stand there clenching my fists and looking at them menacingly.
No. 434824
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>>434770I’ll give them props in that the hyper feminine starter is usually paired up with the male protagonist in Alola.
No. 434825
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>>434818Speaking of Roserade, it became one of my favorites when I started using it for competitive play in X. Its shiny form is also one of my favorite shinies! My shiny Roserade's name is
Deathorn because of the poison type and its coloration, and she's female.
I wonder how common it is to start loving a pokémon after adding it to your team out of convenience, it happened to me with Cradily and Slowking, too.
>>434824Based, tbh. I like that male and female trainers are often given the opposite of what you'd expect based on gender stereotypes, and it's usually
not treated like a big deal. Drew in the anime also had a Roselia.
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>>434817>>434818i was seriously so mean, i still feel bad for some of the things i did. i would beat up girls too but boys were way more frequent targets because i liked "boy things". when i established myself the "cool boys" at my elementary school who also went to the same daycare as me accepted me into their friend group so i played pokemon with them, cards and the games, and they treated me like another one of their own. i was able to get some of my meeker girl friends into it too. while i feel about how badly i hurt some of the other kids, i'm also at least glad i didn't end up being bullied myself.
>>434824i do like how in the franchise there's not really any sexism tied to pokemon themselves and never has been.
No. 434828
>>434826>i do like how in the franchise there's not really any sexism tied to pokemon themselves and never has been.Closest I can think of is the female Pikachu having a heart shaped tail (for some reason) and female Wobafett having lipstick the rest of the gender differences are just based on biological attributes of the real animal it’s based on.
It did make me think of this video though where they gave the ‘female’ versions tits kek.
No. 434829
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>>434825>I like that male and female trainers are often given the opposite of what you'd expect based on gender stereotypes, and it's usually notI think a lot of it comes from that they’re picked based on complementary character design and ‘vibes’ rather than the girl gets the most feminine looking one, which I like.
No. 434830
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>>434815>Anyway, that's retarded, there could've been two Snivy users with different movesets (isn't that the point of Pokémon? That each individual is unique with its gender, shinyness, IVs, ability, characteristic, moves, stats, etc.?), but those boys obviously didn't give a shit and just wanted to gatekeep you for no reason. I'm sorry that happened to you.Thank you, and I fully agree. They probably just didn't like the idea of a girl liking the same Pokemon as them, honestly, which screams of insecurity lol. It's funny because the other little girl I knew who liked Pokemon also had a wide range of favorites, so it was legitimately just the boys insisting on what we "should" like. I feel sorry for all the little girls who got pushed around like that.
>>434816>i was a known bully who would beat up boys when we were that ageLove this. I wish I'd been stronger-willed as a child and stood up for myself more, but unfortunately, that's something I had to develop with age.
No. 434841
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>>434817>I don't mind grass pokemon not being super "planty", if they at least read as somewhat grass type, and also instead lean into their other design inspiration - in this case a cat.>it's on par with litten also just being a cat.I guess you're right, I love Litten (but they ruined its final evo), but there really is nothing that makes it look Fire-type other than the color palette. I suppose with Sprigatito I was expecting more plant-like elements, like leaves or something, but instead it's a really fluffy cat with green fur.
>The problem is they didn't lean into either grass type or cat for meowscarada, they instead drew a human furry magician which only sort of kinda has a plant + cat theme. I just realized that it's supposed to be based on an Iberian lynx, which explains the "hairstyle", short tail and pointy "ears". The mask is supposed to be a stand-in for the ears but it still looks weird. But for some reason it looks like a vague furry anthro creature. It's about 50% human occupation stereotype, 30% cat/lynx and 20% plant, whereas something like Ludicolo is 40% kappa, 40% pineapple and 20% Mexican stereotype.
>>434826>>434824Beating up girls is concerning behavior, but I honestly don't mind mean, sexist boys being bullied into shutting up and leaving you alone.
>i do like how in the franchise there's not really any sexism tied to pokemon themselves and never has been.Yeah, even if sometimes it does feel like some pokémon are targeted at the average girl that likes cute, "girly" things to sell merch, like Eevee or Cosplay Pikachu (or female Pikachu), it's not like they're forcing every girl to like those, even the female characters have a wide variety of pokémon. (Side note, but Cosplay Pikachu also has a cool rockstar costume and a luchador costume, which is neat.)
I don't like that some of the female-only designs are based on feminine standards in human culture, or dumb shit like making them pink because pink is the girl color. But aside from that, I appreciate that all the other pokémon can be either male or female, and their gender differences are pretty inoffensive, or even realistic. Like female Camerupt having bigger volcanoes on their back, or male Unfezant being more colorful.
Last Roserade pic of the mini-dump, I don't wanna be banned for "avatarfagging". No. 434847
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>>434818>I love Roserade, but even I thought that the design change from Roselia to Roserade was too radical. Both Roserade and Budew are so obviously from a different generation than Roselia that it is a bit jarring.I LOVE Roserade. It's so pretty and elegant! I never really associated a gender with it, though, because it's just a plant. Unlike you, I don't mind the change from Roselia, and it never felt particularly odd to me. It feels like the Pokemon grew from something cute to a more graceful, stronger form. It's definitely not a Pokemon I felt had an illogical evolution, unlike Torracat to Incineroar or Dragonair to Dragonite, for example. Difference of preferences, but I never thought much of it.
>>434815>It is very coomerThe new starter evolutions depress me because so many are obvious furry bait. Can't they go and make their own Coomer Pokemon Clone game or something? The generations just keep becoming more and more furry-pandering with their bipedal Pokemons' designs. Lucario doesn't give the same vibes as Meowscarada, even though it's also popular with that crowd. I think it's in the face, or maybe that Meowscarada is basically wearing shorts and tights.
>>434817>Both the cat and the plant feels tacked on last minute.I agree completely. The worst insult of the furry designs is that they feel like human beings in fursuits as opposed to what they're actually trying to represent.
>>434264 made a really good post about this that I think articulated it in a way I was never able to put into words.
No. 434880
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Do any of you guys worry about posting fakemon, or Pokémon-inspired monster concepts or designs, because Game Freak might see them and scrap an idea for a new pokémon since it would be too similar to yours? According to the leaks, that's the reason they scrapped a Flying-type Eevelution for Gen 7, it looked too much like a fan design posted online.
I wanted to make a fangame with a region based on my country, but since I'm ultra-paranoid about legal action from GF I decided to develop a Pokémon clone instead. The region and story concepts were already pretty divorced from the official games anyway, kinda like how different and isolated Unova felt in Black/White. But no matter what I do, Game Freak might still end up finding my designs and discarding pokémon that I'd like to see in an actual Pokémon game.
>>433892Call me retarded but somehow I think Delphox is cool as fuck. I didn't even realize it was supposed to form an RPG trio because it, Greninja and Chesnaught's designs aren't too obvious next to each other, IMO. I like Delphox's "mage" concept, and don't mind it being bipedal. Its legs are completely covered by its "robe" which I find cool although it makes no sense; on the plus side, it's not as bad as Incineroar or Cinderace. Though I would say that it had absolutely no reason to be bipedal, even though older starters like Charizard, Blastoise, Sceptile or Typhlosion also stood on two legs, since Delphox's kind of bipedalism is noticeably different. Now that I think about it, fire starters have
always been bipedal, haven't they? (Until Skeledirge happened, that is.)
What I hate is that furwaifufaggots appropriated its pre-evolution and now I can't see Braixen without thinking of all the coomers. Before learning that people online saw it as a furry girl, I saw Braixen as a normal, neutral pokémon. Was I being blind? Now I'm wondering why the fuck GF had to make it so "feminine", in addition to being bipedal. It didn't bother me before only because I hadn't noticed it. I guess you could see it as a cute male furry, but it's too late, now that everyone has decided that Braixen is a girl.
No. 434936
>>434880>But no matter what I do, Game Freak might still end up finding my designs and discarding pokémon that I'd like to see in an actual Pokémon game.I think this might be an unpopular opinion, but I say don't worry about it. Not because GF won't scrap their designs (I have no idea what they'll do), but because you're making your own game. If you're seriously developing a game, you shouldn't compromise your personal vision out of fear that a company MIGHT see your game, and MIGHT have to scrap their own design because it MIGHT be similar to one of your ideas. Regardless of that, though, I also think having it entirely separate from Pokemon (ie not a fan game) with a completely different art style will make this less of an issue if one of your ideas is somewhat similar. I don't know the exact case with the Eeveelution you mentioned, but you have to remember that's kind of a specific instance because it's an evolution of a preexisting Pokemon. If you're creating a creature from scratch, GF has a lot more plausible deniability if one of their designs is tangentially similar to yours. It's a lot harder to say your Eeveelution just so happens to look like a fan Eeveelution than it is to say that your fire wolf happens to look like another unrelated game's fire wolf.
>What I hate is that furwaifufaggots appropriated its pre-evolution and now I can't see Braixen without thinking of all the coomers.AYRT, and I'm sure this probably also contributes to the distaste I feel toward Delphox. I'll admit it's not as obvious as Meowscarada, but both Braixen and Delphox feel very distinctly furry to me, which only worsened my disappointment. I was kind of excited when I first saw Fennekin because I thought, "there's no way they could make this one bipedal! It's going to evolve into something great for sure." Charmander, Cyndaquil, Torchic, and Chimchar had started out as bipedal, so it wasn't surprising they ended up that way, and I was SO confident there wouldn't be a repeat of Tepig.
No. 434941
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>>434880Braixen is cute and doesn't look coomery to me, it looks like a "sisterly" design that little girls tend to like. That of course just makes me more grossed out degenerate men think it's coom for them… and tbf the pic you posted makes it look gross somehow, the gloss and the pose is odd. In usual art I think it's cute tho.
Switching topics a tiny bit, but what do you nonas think is the motivation behind each starter set? At least in the last half of gens they seem more tied to the real life region, but sometimes they make seemingly no sense too. unless maybe they do and it's something I hadn't thought of
For example as was mentioned earlier Kalos had a frog starter (kek) which is super stereotypical for France. Alola has a tropical seal-mermaid, Paldea an ugly dancer bird and iberian lynx. But a gorilla in the UK, fennec fox in France and crocodile in Spain?
No. 434946
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>>434941>crocodile in SpainThe pattern on its head makes me think it's loosely based on Paque Güell's lizard.
Yeah it's a completely different animal and color palette, but when I first saw Skeledirge my mind when directly to it.
No. 434956
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OH MY GOD, I FOUND THE DOC CONTAINING THE ORIGINAL TEAM FLARE GRUNT DESIGNS! It was in a document with "negative checks" with notes on specific changes before finalizing designs. Their reason?
>Because it was similar to a character from another company (Ghost Trick character)Unsurprisingly, everyone on Twitter thought exactly that kek, good call.
>>434907>>434936Thanks for your input, nonners. I guess the safest, least troublesome path would be to use an entirely different art style. It's a shame, because I really wanted to design creatures in a style reminiscent of Pokémon. I hope being unrelated to actual pokémon is enough. On the other hand, if I don't hurry up and release my game first, they could make a pokémon that's similar to one of my designs and then
I'll be called a plagiarizer, lol.
>>434941>what do you nonas think is the motivation behind each starter setYou can just go to Bulba to read some theories, but I can share info from the doc with the reasoning behind their names if you want. Although we don't have the docs for the most recent gens.
(If nonnas are interested, I can do the same for the human characters, but I've only read the Hoenn one, so if you want a different region, I'll have to search for it.)
No. 434959
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>>434936>>434933I can finally post this translation that's been circulating. I was looking for the source file in my copy to confirm the information, and I found it. The filepath is
GFDocs/開発素材DB/★データベース元データ/01_ポケモン仕様書/16_SM/00_スケジュール/00_プロジェクト全体/pokemon/ポケモンデザイン進行管理.xlsxOriginal text because the translation is kinda bad:
>・ファンが創作したデザインとの類似を指摘されたことで、デザインコストが非常に高くなると判断。・ひこうイーブイをメインキャラに据えた遊びがあるなど、利用価値が高いのであれば高コストを掛ける判断もできるが、現状はそうではない。
・新ポケモンの重要度を判断できるまで保留とする。
>>434958KEK, we can pretend it is.
No. 434960
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She's doing the Nazi salute! OMG how could they!!
I cracked up when I saw this thumbnail in the corrections doc since I immediately knew what the "problem" was, not gonna lie.
No. 434961
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I'm glad they changed the Minun design on her clothes from her butt to her back. She's my favorite trainer class.
No. 434964
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They changed Lysandre's hair and beard because they thought he looked too much like Wolverine, kek.
The hair was an improvement, for sure. But the beard is worse, IMO.
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This is getting ridiculous
No. 434967
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Team Magma's salute was changed because:
>The right arm may be perceived as a preparatory movement for the Nazi salute. Wikipedia defines this salute as "a gesture in which the right hand is stretched out while standing upright, held horizontally at chest level, and then the arm is extended diagonally upwards with the palm facing downwards." However, there is a similarity between the movement of holding the arm horizontally at chest level and the pose of the right arm in this illustration. This concern can be resolved by clenching the hand held at chest level into a fist.
They're really extremely paranoid about any potential controversy, aww. I kinda feel bad for them after the seizures and all the legal shit they got into in the early gens. I'm always reminded of this when I watch any official Pokémon videos and the whole thing becomes much darker whenever there's VFX with bright lights. I've never seen any other company or franchise darken the video so much when that happens.
No. 434971
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>>434969>American marketers are so retarded they tried to convince Game Freak to change designs since the very beginning to appeal to drooling retarded American boys, like trying to make pikachu a sexy tiger woman with big breasts instead of a small and cute electric mouse.What in the fuck?? I've never heard of this. Please give a source, it sounds hilarious.
>or some Kotaku(?) tranny lying about how Persona 5 and Atlus are ableist because he misheard English lyrics in one of the songs when playing Smash Ultimate and thought the Japanese singer with a Japanese accent said "retarded" instead of "retort"FUCKING KEK
It's a good thing that GF has the localizers detect any potentially controversial detail for them, then. A lot of the changes also were due to female characters' miniskirts being too fucking tiny, or the poses a bit too sexual, and the Japanese team somehow not noticing, so I think most, if not all of these changes were justified.
No. 434973
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>>434941I thought the Galar starters were an homage to British entertainment. Rillaboom is a punk rock drummer, Cinderace is a football player, and Inteleon is a James Bond reference.
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>>434971>and the Japanese team somehow not noticingJapanese fashion, or even Asian in general, is different from what you can find in the West so I'm not surprised the Japanese devs didn't notice or care before. Women tend to wear skirts, dresses and shorts a lot more often than what I see in Europe, from my experience, and I've been told showing your cleavage and shoulders is considered more vulgar than showing your legs in Japan. I wouldn't mind the localizers making suggestions if it didn't result in the abominations that are the uniforms in SV though. There's a middle ground between cute but way too short clothes and hideous and bland clothes with almost no alternate options.
>Please give a source, it sounds hilarious.Looked for a source and it turns out the story might be a bit different but still equally stupid and funny. Pic rel is the source I had for a long time, here's a link for more context though:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TruePokemon/comments/ufzm7x/attempting_to_dispel_the_myth_of_how_nintendo_was/?rdt=38609 No. 435008
>>434956>You can just go to Bulba to read some theories,>>434973>I thought the Galar starters were an homage to British entertainment.Sure, but why those animals? What came first, the drummer or the gorilla? The rabbit or the football player? The slenderman anorexic lizard or james bond?
We can read bulbapedia on likely origins but I still wonder WHY they picked those in a lot of cases. For example do we think it's a gorilla because they wanted to represent music, and a monkey hitting cymbals/drums is a common concept so they used that secondarily to the music idea? Or were they set on doing a gorilla in the UK for some other reason, and the music came after that?
I'm just really curious what the design process might be. Usually when fans design their own regions based on a real country, they ONLY use animals tied to that country and often don't dare to step out of line. If you do a fake-australia region you make a kangaroo, a koala and a crocodile. But if we look at pokemon lately imo it almost seems like the animals is often the last thought brought to the design. A lizard/chameleon is sneaky and therefor fits the James Bond spy idea, a rabbit is fast and can then be used to represent sport and so on.
No. 435103
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>>434959This is interesting! Thank you nonna. Some people are speculating it may be some fan design posted on the internet before 2014 (and they digged up some possible candidates). I think these are cute, what do you nonnas think? Which flying Eevee design do you like the most? Or do you have any other you like in mind?
>>434565I want to hear the playlist nonna!
No. 435122
>>435103I think it's way more likely game freak came across Japanese fan designs circulating Japanese sites, so I take English fan speculation with a grain of salt. Though idk where they find those posted, so they could be Japanese!
But god how tragic it must be to be that artist, you make your dream flying type eeveelution because you love eevee and it was actually SO close to becoming a reality, but the person who ruined it all from happening was YOU. If only they hadn't posted it we would all have had something very close to that eeveelution for real. And now we'll instead never have that eeveelution at all.
No. 435130
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>>435103this one is really cute, but the colors make me think of both altaria and vaporeon so i think it'd look better a bit more darker/saturated blue. i also think it should have wings on its back.
No. 435140
>>435103I briefly saw some fan flying Eeveelutions, and I liked the concept of it having wings on its head, or ears that look like/double as wings. The idea of a flying Eevee that looks like a fluffy cloud is cute, but Altaria and Swablu already exist, and I find the white "cloud" fur + blue body to be a bit cliché.
>>435008>Sure, but why those animals? What came first, the drummer or the gorilla? The rabbit or the football player? The slenderman anorexic lizard or james bond? I think that process would only be clear once we saw the original concept art where the pokémon designers first came up with those ideas, but at least we know that they probably come up with the sepcies "base" first, and then add more stuff. In all the design documents, before they come up with names for all the pokémon, they call them by their basic concept instead, for example "peanut 1" and "peanut 2" for the scrapped peanut pokémon and its evolution that looked like a kangaroo or dinosaur.
So for the Galar starters, they probably came up with the species inspiration first, like "fire rabbit", then came up with the extra design elements.
>>435012>often pokemon characters like Cynthia who he then encourages other real female cosplayers to do shipping/fetish photos with.Unrelated to this troon, but this reminded me of a friend I have in Pokémon Masters who always makes photos shipping Cynthia and other blond/light-haired female characters kissing and blushing, the person's profile is all pink and their avatar is female wearing the pink clothes, so I'm getting major troon vibes from that and I wanna purge them from my friends list, kek. Since this is the Pokémon fandom we're talking about, I'm more inclined to believe it's a troon and not a real lesbian. Lesbians usually have characters like Rika in their picture.
No. 435154
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>>435130Oh! This looks even better than the original. I disagree about the wings, though. I like the ethereal cloud beast look it currently has. Wings almost seem too predictable.
>>434941>what do you nonas think is the motivation behind each starter set?I've heard that the Unova starters were supposed to resemble the three social classes in feudal Japan. As in Serperior is the rulers, Samurott is the samurai, and Emboar is the working man, but this never really sat right with me because Unova is based on America, and I struggle to see how a pro wrestler represents the working class kek. Alternatively, I've seen the interpretation that they represent different cultures, Like Samurott is Japan, Serperior is some European country, and Emboar is… I don't know? I do not understand how a wrestler pig ties into ANY of these theories.
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>>435103This is the one I like! Very cute.
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here's some random other fakeeveelutions i really like (ghost, steel, bug, poison, ground and fighting)
No. 435189
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>>435154>Alternatively, I've seen the interpretation that they represent different culturesIt's not an interpretation, they literally stated it directly in interviews. Emboar isn't a wrestler either.
I hate their current "rules" for starters. I hate that they give them human jobs and I hate this "personality type" bullshit they force onto starters, I want to decide for myself that they could be anything I want. I don't want an idiot fuecoco with 0 braincells bumping into thing for comic effect, I want it to be an aggressive little demon croc. I don't want my cinderace to play the most boring sport known to man, I want it to just be a rabbit. I truly feel the starters have lost their magic. I finally understand why people box them right away.
No. 435212
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I think Legends Z-A was cancelled
No. 435250
>>435227it's just the same anon who keeps baiting with random nonsense because she's bored, just ignore her
>>435130I think this design is too "gen 1" as it matches the gen 1 trio in style. It's more likely a new eevee would look more like the far right option in
>>435103 which is a bit more similar to sylveon. I prefer the first one though.
No. 435271
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>>435186>didn't wresting originate in the US?Definitely not! The sport has been around since ancient times. Probably most famously, it was one of the sports featured in the Olympics back in Ancient Greece, so organized, competitive wrestling has been a thing for a while.
>Or at least as a non-burger I associate WWE a lot with the USThat part about the WWE is true, though, as that particular organization of wrestling is a US creation.
>>435189>It's not an interpretation, they literally stated it directly in interviews. Emboar isn't a wrestler either. Oh, dang. Didn't realize that came from an official source and wasn't just a fan theory. I feel like my world has been shaken, learning that Emboar is not a wrestler, though, kek. I guess it makes more sense why Incineroar was also a wrestler. It always pissed me off that they made TWO wrestling fire starters.
>I hate their current "rules" for starters. I hate that they give them human jobs and I hate this "personality type" bullshit they force onto startersI agree completely. It's dumb and it has led to the past few generations' starters evolving into something unpleasant to look at. I'm not even excited to see the final evolutions of starters anymore.
No. 435319
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>>435283The previous legends game was announced on pokemon day February 27 and released January 28 the next, 11 months later. The initial trailer was very far ahead in production compared to the teaser for Z-A and specified the release in "EARLY 2022". The Z-A trailer just says "2025" which is a fully reasonable term to use to mean "December 31 2025". There is literally no reason to be a retard and cry "reeeee they cancelled it!!!11!" when there are 13 whole fucking months left of the period they specified the release day for.
No. 435512
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Does anyone else hate how these guys were named? I don't mind the chinese flavor, however I dislike how it takes over the full name and also what it then implies. In gen 1 we had articuno, zapdos and moltres, so their element + spanish, so they got that foreign flavor while still keeping an english root word so we all still knew what it means. Articuno is obviously an ice type name. Ting-Lu tells me nothing about it as a name.
And secondly while it implies a Chinese region exists and that's fun, I would really hate it if all names in that region where just Chinese like these legendaries are and it's setting up to be. I have zero chance of connecting or remembering any of the names in that case (I legit cannot name just these 4 and have to look it up every time).
No. 435688
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The SubMas japanese fandom rabbit hole is too autistic for me. Basically, they draw all the different iterations of the characters as different people, which means Game SubMas, Anime SubMas, PokéSpe SubMas and sometimes ever Mastersex SubMas all get drawn as different people. At most I can get it for the anime version since apparently they're just boring normal guys there, but all the rest are very samey to me (they barely even count as characters in PokéSpe, but I digress)…
Anyway, they ship all these different versions together, like Game Ingo/Anime Ingo, but the funniest bit about this whole alt versions deal to me is that they treat Ingo and Emmet (their selves in the english version of the game) as different guys and they often give them blue eyes, blonde hair and terrible english (but they can't decide if they're from the US or from the UK kek). Oh and they get shipped with their japanese selves, of course.
No. 435731
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>>435512yeah the names are super weird, they used the old ass romanisation system too.
i think the fish and snail are great designs but the way they were handled in-game was shit.
like the idea of these cursed exotic items being sealed away was nice but it was so tedious to hunt for them and there was 0 link to the rest if the region. then again paldea sucks.
No. 435794
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I, for one, am glad they're taking their time with Z-A. I don't want another shitty, rushed game; hopefully they're actually using this time to properly develop it after all the complaints about SV being a buggy mess. It would restore my faith in the franchise, honestly. And it gives me more time to catch up with the latest generations. (Maybe the leaker talking about Z-A will motivate them to finish and polish it properly.)
>>435688>Basically, they draw all the different iterations of the characters as different people, which means Game SubMas, Anime SubMas, PokéSpe SubMas and sometimes ever Mastersex SubMas all get drawn as different people. Based, all of those are different continuities. I do the same with my husbando, I get autistically
triggered when people mix them up.
But the different universe fanart stuff is just your typical JP fangirl autism, I've seen it with other franchises as well. I think it's cute.
>they treat Ingo and Emmet (their selves in the english version of the game) as different guys and they often give them blue eyes, blonde hair and terrible englishKek, this is so weird though. Reminds me of Ryuuichi Naruhodou and Phoenix Wright (one has brown eyes, the other blue eyes due to the localization taking place in the US). But Ingo & Emmet are from Unova/Isshu regardless of language, and they have the same appearance too. So dumb, lmao.
>I can get it for the anime version since apparently they're just boring normal guys thereOh, I'm not even a trainfag, but this is kinda disappointing. I remember how excited I was for the Black & White anime season, because Gen 5 was the first time I played a Pokémon game in the same year it came out. But I started watching religiously on Cartoon Network and it was so boring that I dropped it. Apparently they had greater plans for Best Wishes, but a lof of stuff had to be cancelled, like the Team Plasma plot? I didn't watch that part but that plot seems too have suffered the most. So it doesn't surprise me much to hear that Ingo & Emmet are boring in the anime.
Also Ghetsis cute
No. 435821
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>>435688>Ingo and Emmet (their selves in the english version of the game) as different guys and they often give them blue eyes, blonde hair and terrible english (but they can't decide if they're from the US or from the UK kek). Oh and they get shipped with their japanese selves, of courseThey did this for most countries I'm pretty sure, I think the english ones were just the most popular (the whole thing was basically their version of all those different types of Sans undertale)
It's a very strange fandom and definitely proof that jp tism can be just as bizarre as overseas tism.
No. 435822
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>>435688god bless all trainautists
No. 435825
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>>435794>Also Ghetsis cuteHe fucked a Zoroark though
No. 435883
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No. 435886
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>>435825Can you stop going "he did XYZ though/he is gay though/he is pedo though" everytime someone posts an husbando? You're not funny, just annoying.
No. 435896
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cute mew in a dress
No. 436075
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i love the 'saurs
No. 436226
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>>433234Happy anniversary!
>>434030Happy anniversary!
No. 436435
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>>436341Idc if this is an unhinged theory but I really think the start was when they made the 3D models for gen 6 they went "sooo what IS venusaur? It's like a toad, right?" and changed the anatomy (back legs in particular) to look twice as long and folded over, making it look toadier. It NEVER had legs like that before, the legs in all other media had always been stumpy and it was always walking/running around, never hopping or acting like a toad. It always had a few toad-qualities and inspiration, but it never acted like one. Just like how pikachu is a mouse, but doesn't really act or look like one, and same with poliwhirl being a frog etc. Venusaur still kept walking and didn't hop until Let's go games either. My theory is that they've slowly been turning venusaur into a literal toad because they're 1. uncomfortable leaving it ambiguous, and/because 2. they've been switching from pokemon being monsters into being cute pet-animals so they want to animal-ify it by making it act like a real animal.
No. 436436
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>>436435this is how it used to run in the anime
No. 436442
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>>436353The anon you replied to is probably baiting, but it's a reference to that fan theory that was popular years ago where N is a Zoroark and that's why he can talk to Pokemon.
>>436075I love this. So cute.
>>436435None of that line ever struck me as especially frog-like, but Bulbasaur did hop around in Mystery Dungeon. I will say that it looked a lot less awkward in the PMD games than in the 3D games. Sorry for gif quality. It was the best I could find.
No. 436446
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>>436442to be fair a lot of pokemon move strangely in PMD, especially as small pixel sprites. Vulpix also does the little hop
No. 436455
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>>436226Happy anniversary indeed! When I found promo, box and concept art
PSD FILES in their original resolution, I was sooooo ecstatic! Up until now, we only had lowres versions of these pics. They'll make for such killer posters. These files are 100+ MB in size originally, so I had to shrink them. We even have PSDs for model textures with all their original layers, that's so crazy.
>>436129Well, to be fair, "saur" is only in the English name. They have a toad-like body shape, but I don't know any dinosaur that looked like that specifically.
Also, they are officially based on/inspired by frogs:
https://web.archive.org/web/20101230153442/http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/sp/index4.html>杉森>はい。だからフシギバナに進化する前のフシギダネには、カエルの様な生き物の上に球根がくっついているんです。>桐谷>その球根が、カエルの上で花を咲かせるんですね！？ >杉森>そうです、モチーフはカエル。>桐谷>カエル・・・カエル・・・。カエルなんですね。これは新しい発見だ！>Sugimori>Yes. So before Bulbasaur evolves into Venusaur, it has a bulb attached to a frog-like creature.>Kiritani>And that bulb makes the flower bloom on a frog!?>Sugimori>That's right, the motif is a frog.>Kiritani>A frog… a frog… It's a frog. This is a new discovery!Although it's possible that the 'saur line is also inspired by dinos, like how the Char line is inspired by dragons as well as lizards.
Another bit of starter design trivia: according to this other interview, the first three starters were designed "working backward" from their final evolutions.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211108083831/https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/creator-profile-the-creators-of-pikachu/ No. 436460
>>436457AYRT and I agree fully. I just think the Bulb line is a combination of a toad and a dinosaur, plus no frog
or dinosaur has ears like Venusaur's.
No. 436503
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didn't think posting cute bulba fanart would start this much debate. this is the azumarill egg controversy all over again lmao.
anyway i love venusaur best kanto starter
No. 436515
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>>436503it's not as retarded as the wet egg debated tbh and what the bulba line is has always been a topic of contention. however i think it doesn't NEED to be one thing. it can be multiple things at once, since it clearly is.
also remember the first time we saw a venusaur walking it was shuffling, not hopping. (don't talk to me about how it's akshully a robot)
No. 436519
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>>436513NTA but why tf are you bringing up yumes? What the hell
No. 436550
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>>436503>didn't think posting cute bulba fanart would start this much debate. Is there even really a debate? Everyone seems to agree it's based on frogs/toads but just doesn't really look like one
>>436519nta but I can't tell if you're joking or being hypersensitive for real but either way it made me kek
No. 436553
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>>436550AYRT, I was the one who posted Ghetsis (who isn't even my husbando, kek). The Gengar anon was someone else, I just assumed that anon had seen this kind of reply in other threads and was tired of seeing it. I imagine the anon who brought up yumes thought we were the same person, when actually I liked the pic she posted despite it being fujoshit.
I thought it was a reference to the Characters You Love thread where someone would reply "he's useless and a sexist creep tho" but seems I was totally wrong…I was going to post this on Christmas but Merry Christmas everyoneeee
No. 436559
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HAPPY EASTER
No. 436566
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>>436561both are needed for maximum flavor
No. 436589
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>>436561I love both twins but Emmet is my favorite because he's weirder.
No. 436596
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>>436515Yeah I don't know why people can't help but argue so much against what is so obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes.
No. 436644
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for me Venusaur is like some weird version of Beelzebufo the prehistoric frog/toad
No. 436647
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>>436625damn there were so many good ones. look at my boy politoed and his little umbrella…
No. 436654
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What are your headcanon teams each player character would use if they ever re-appeared as NPCs that you could battle?
No. 436671
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>>436625The Gengar one would make a cute blanket.
No. 436680
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>>436625I like how subtle this quagsire one is
No. 436742
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>>436625ditto's is soooo cute
No. 436842
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>>436654here's my idea for a kris team if she was a champion battle. if anyone wants unbridled autism i can explain each choice too
No. 436868
>>436858- ampharos is chosen because she caught a mareep early on and didn't think much of it besides helping her with falkner. however, after seeing amphy at the lighthouse, she was awestruck by the strength of this pokemon and the way it used power to help people, so she decided to keep it.
- porygon2 is a love letter to advancing tech. no real deep reason, just somewhat meta appreciation of GSC as monumental games and what they were able to accomplish.
- skarmory comes from her journey back home. a rare, tough pokemon that shines like a crystal and is comprised of the brand new type, steel.
- lapras was found deep in union cave, a nod to its mysterious and somewhat creepy method of capture and tribute to the new clock system in game. i debated switching this with the red gyarados at lake of rage.
- meganium is chosen solely because it gets too much hate, and it's adorable and strong. it's for hardcore mode players. really any starter can go here, but i feel like meganium fits kris partly because she was shoved out of HGSS. no hate to lyra but i'm still kind of sad about that! therefore i picked the least popular of the starters.
- tyranitar is a symbol of the endgame, and shows how kris trekked through mt. silver and trained enough to harness the terrifying power of a pseudo-legendary. i thought about giving her suicune but wanted to follow how the games never have a trainer use a legendary unless it's an antagonist team boss using the legendary for evil deeds. also i think she would just let suicune be free.
No. 436886
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>>436868I like your picks - these would be mine for her:
- meganium as the starter choice, same 'hard-mode' reasoning as you
- azumarill as the 'pikachu-clone' representative on the team
- togetic as a nod to the gift egg, and the new breeding mechanics introduced in gen 2
- red gyarados from the gen 2, also a nod to the shiny system introduced in gen 2
- umbreon as a nod to the day/night cycle. I went with umbreon as Red already canonically uses espeon in gen 2, also the dark type was introduced this gen so I feel it works better for her
- dragonite, which would carry extremespeed, as obtained from defeating the 8th gym in gen 2. Dragonite suits Kris better design wise too imo, Tyranitar would be better suited to the rival Silver
No. 437393
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i love the marill wallpaper. look at her
No. 437463
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>>437393Surprised nobody posted
terf azumarill yet! Even more surprised to see it features a little wooper when quagsire was just chosen as another terfy icon, what a cute coincidence
No. 437464
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And we have to show off miltank of course
No. 437648
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God, I'm so nostalgic for PMD. The art, the music, the stories… there's never been a game I've felt more at home playing. I don't know why it has had me in such a chokehold for so long, but it has.
No. 437739
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When I was a kid I was afraid of water to the point where I was afraid to take baths or showers, but then I played I think it was yellow and Lapras quickly became my favorite. I was no longer afraid of water, because I had a cute Lapras toy with me, and my kid brain believed that if anything somehow went wrong that she would save me. Kind and gentle mon.
No. 437741
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>>437739Awwww fuck, this is so cute, I love Lapras, I like how it was made with the idea of being a means of transportation in the Pokémon world. The concept of riding Pokémon is so comfy. Now I'm thinking of that scene from the Mewtwo movie where everyone reaches Mewtwo's island on their pokémon's back, so nostalgic.
No. 437744
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Did you know that back in 2016 there was a nationwide event in all the Pokémon Centers in Japan, where cosplayers LARPing as the six main villains (at the time) would appear and give you their ace as a Mystery Gift, which also included a Wonder Card with a special message by the character addressed to you?
https://web.archive.org/web/20160907165044/https://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2016/09/160902_p01.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20161010071756/http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2016/09/160930_p01.html?news_recommend=attentionIt was called "Pokémon Center Occupation Plan" (ポケモンセンター占拠計画) and ran from October 1st to November 11th. The villain at each Pokémon Center would be accompanied by "grunts" (normal people wearing t-shirts with the Team's logo kek), and they would rotate every week. This event was so popular that they extended it by 2 days. After the giveaway period, the people who received the villains' pokémon could challenge the "bosses" to a Pokémon battle in ORAS.
Naturally, this generated a shitton of fanart and funny tweets by people visiting their local villain.
Learning about this made me very sad ngl, I've never wished I could experience a Japan-exclusive event so badly, I'm literally tearing up just thinking about it again kek No. 437745
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>>437744Pictured is a tweet by a visitor. If I understand correctly, a bunch of people gathered around the Ghetsis as he begged and screamed autistically for the audience to release their pokémon, while they just kept laughing and taking pictures of him, lmao. One of his assistants said:
>It looks like Lord Ghetsis is unable to stand up, so please, go ahead and continue taking pictures!! [kind smile emoji]KEKKKK
It looks like Ghetsis was particularly popular. (Thanks to these tweets I realized that he has maou/demon lord vibes and that it'd be fun to bully him, kek.)
For those interested, the special pokémon that were given at this event can be easily found online if you look for "gen 6 local distribution events" or similar. And yes, there are ways to inject Mystery Gifts into your game. I haven't been able to try it myself because I haven't modded my 3DS, though. I'll try on emulator.Otherwise, you can read the Japanese messages in the Wonder Cards on Bulbapedia:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_VI#Pok%C3%A9mon_Center_Occupation_Plan_Pok%C3%A9monWhy does Japan always get the cool shit and not the rest of us?? And on the occasion that the west also gets awesome stuff like this, it's US & Canada only 99% of the time.
No. 437804
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>>437784Fuck, I regret dropping Pokémon that year, I could've seen all of it in real time, now a good chunk of those tweets are gone…
No. 438345
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Post reaction images
No. 438349
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>>438345I enjoy the shitpost potential the betamons have
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>>438345fuck it, have some of my old /vp/ drawfag days
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No. 438366
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and done
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i love bug types
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No. 438724
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So the gen 10 rumor is that it will be based on Greece. Any thoughts on it? Would you like Greece or would you prefer some other country?
No. 438794
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>>438724Spoiler for Legends Arceus. Lowkey excited we might get more information about Volo's past.
No. 438845
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>>438790I think the female looks nice and pokemony enough but the boy is kinda ugly, he's giving tif vibes. I prefer picrels take on greek protags. Though I don't think pokemon protags ever actually look that culturally distinct and they'd look much more generic if they were real
No. 438909
>>438724I'd take it but only if the games are good. I don't want them to fuck up the mediterranean again.
Also the more of these regions are blatantly inspired by real life places the more I find it weird and unusual how they still house three billion types of places… deserts, tundras, what have you, in a map that's clearly outlined over a real life place.
Imo only Unova did it in a way that isn't weird, same for Pasio (Pasio is based off of Italy). Unova being based off a part of NYC instead of all of the US helped it feel less cramped and Pasio has a map that looks like an Italian gulf but otherwise is original (its beta map bothered the shit out of me).
I know this applies to Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh too and I also find those a little weird but it helped that they were 2d games and also had less types of climates shown.
No. 439160
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Kanto is so uninteresting as a region, I hope they make a Legends game for it after Z-A.
No. 439269
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>>438724I love Greece, and I think it has the potential to have a gorgeous environment to explore. I'm thinking rocky cliffs and a more rugged terrain. I'm not in love with these protagonist designs, especially the boy, but the girl's hair is cute. I hope we'd get to see Falinks a lot, and maybe some other Pokemon similar to that. Unfortunately, I'm not as excited as I should be because it'll be a newer Pokemon game and I haven't had as much fun with the newer games, but Greece is one of those areas I'd hoped to see one day.
No. 439414
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>>439269>I hope we'd get to see Falinks a lotOh this reminds me of one thing that is annoying to me about the regions being based on real places! Because they still take inspiration from all over the world you get things like tatsugiri, the literal sushi pokemon, not existing in any Japanese region at all but being native to the Spanish region. Falinks is a British pokemon, it will always be a British pokemon and possibly won't even appear in the Greek region at all.
You have so many pokemon that are so clearly culturally significant to a real life country and they just hand it to another region. There's only a handful of dex entries that save it, like how galarian meowth is said to not be native to Galar but having been brought there by "seafaring people", and urshifu is from "mountains in a distant region". But even then that's of course weird because we haven't seen those other regions and possibly never will! Just because they decide to make a Chinese region doesn't mean they're actually gonna put urshifu in that game either.
No. 439429
>>439411>It has the exact same environments (grass, cave, water etc) with nothing new.- ruins of alph
- national park
- lighthouse
- lake of rage
- bell tower
- ice path
- battle tower
are all unique areas / concepts with unique puzzles.
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Breloom is getting Porygon'd because of this for sure kek
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>>439427>The towns / areas in Johto have so much more personality and unique aesthetics behind them than KantoI fully agree. But it's still not much of an improvement imo. Johto is just Kanto 2, which is what I dislike about it. It's not really a region on its own, while at least Kanto is the original.
>>439429Just because they gave it a different name doesn't mean it was actually different. The national park is just another basic grassy area, the light house and bell tower aren't different than going through other buildings in Kanto, and Kanto also has ice caves where you catch seel and articuno. The lake of rage is just water and literally only had fucking magikarp and gyarados - not even a gen 2 pokemon. The ruins are the best addition imo, I will give them that.
Johto gym leaders don't even use the new Johto pokemon and instead use basic Kanto pokemon so they're boring to fight against. Did you know out of the entire johto gym leader teams combined only 4 johto pokemon are used in total? Miltank, steelix, piloswine and kingdra. The rest are all Kanto pokemon. And some of the new "Johto" pokemon couldn't even be caught in Johto, just in Kanto in the post game! So they're really just Kanto pokemon.
The evil team is just team Rocket again, not a new team like every other region has. The elite 4 is just the same elite 4, not a new elite 4 like every other region has.
Compare it to the next gen after that, Hoenn, and you suddenly had areas covered in volcanic ash, tall "jungle" grass, you can dive under water, and have a whole sandstorm desert to explore, a ghost island, a shipwreck, as well as an active volcano area. But I am a pokemon autist so despite saying all this I do still very much love Johto lmao I just think it's easy to argue it's the weakest region. I also think the starter trio is one of the best ones to this day (the new ones are always so shit).
No. 439570
>>439513Fair enough if that's your opinion but I disagree, and to be a pokemon autist alongside you, I want to try any explain why. Because you need to keep in mind the design intent behind GSC, and that was that they were intended to be the finale to the Pokemon game series - they were designed as a sequel to RB. This is why team rocket are the villains again - it’s set 4 years after the events of RB and they've returned to call back the main series villain, Giovanni. This was well before the concept of different pokemon villainous teams in universe, because Johto and Kanto are narratively connected - just as they are physically connected. That's why you have Kanto as post-game. This is why the Kanto gym leaders have Johto pokemon (if you include them, 9/16 gym leaders use Johto pokemon). This is why you have the protagonist from RB as the hidden final boss of the game. And this is why Johto is not solely the new 100 Pokemon, why Kanto pokemon are found there. The intent was for you to explore both regions to catch them all. They are deliberately familiar in places because they are bordering regions whose stories directly connect to each other, and yet Johto still manages to have a unique identity that showcases environments more inspired by rural Japan, like Azela town, Ruin of Alph, Ecruteak city. I also think the addition of Suicune roaming the overworld in crystal was a genius way of encouraging exploration of the region. Okay sorry for the sperg, clearly I do have a soft spot for Johto.
>The elite 4 is just the same elite 4, not a new elite 4 like every other region has.This is wrong btw - Kanto's league is Lorelei (ice) Bruno (fighting) Agatha (ghost) and Lance (dragon), Johto's league is Will (psychic) Koga (poison) Bruno (I'll give you that one, but he has a much better team this time around), and Karen (dark).
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>>439612well what did porygon have to do IT?
No. 439671
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>>439570>This is why the Kanto gym leaders have Johto pokemon (if you include them, 9/16 gym leaders use Johto pokemon)Sounds ok until you realize they only use 1 each so it's then 9/59 pokemon in total, so like 15% new johto pokemon and 85% the same old kanto pokemon use by the key "bosses" of the game. I don't care what the intent was of the game being a sequel or expansion, I just care that the execution either way was poor. Excitedly going to the first new gym just to battle a pidgey is lame. But he has a second poke- oh it's pidgeotto. Ok but the next gym leader is sure to be better- oh no he opens with metapod.
>This is wrong btwSorry was thinking of how the actual league location is shared and not a unique new place, that the "end goal" of the game is the same. Lance and Bruno are still in both too like you said, so that makes the trainers there feel less unique too imo.
But I'm here to say I have to retract my statement about Johto being the worst because after thinking about it, my new opinion is potentially even more controversial because I think Paldea might actually be the worst region.
Despite being able to go everywhere it feels empty and shallow. Being able to see 3 "routes" ahead of you and that it's all just still grass with 1-2 trees plopped down isn't that fun. No people anywhere in the world that do anything other than just patiently stand in the same spot, never even approaching you. Even though some areas are nice, like the canyon next to Mesagoza was very well executed imo, but most areas still feel so shallow. There's no forest, nothing like quicksand pulling you in or swampy mud or snow to get stuck in, no HMs needed for you to make it through, no little puzzles, no trainers to beat to be able to pick up a hidden item, and you can't even fish! Every area is just a backdrop. You can't enter houses either, there are no gym challenges in the gyms building, the elite 4 was a boring exam. The DLCs saved the game, but Paldea itself is still the most soulless region. We're 9 generations in so they had no excuse this time.
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just found out that japanese people call the practice of matching poke ball designs / entrance animations to pokemon "oshabo" オシャボ (from オシャレボール, "stylish balls"). wish there was a handy name for it in eng
No. 439894
>>439886"ball matching" just doesn't sound right does it
glaceon and vaporeon both look better in a dive ball imo
No. 439897
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>>439886cute!
what's your favorite ball design anyway anons? i gotta go with premier
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https://ballguy.hatenablog.com/found a whole blog dedicated to oshabo
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>>439897Personally I just really like the ones in PLA
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>>439897I've been shiny hunting a Milotic recently and I'm torn about choosing a ball. I'm leaning towards a luxury ball to match its tail and contrast with the lighter colored elements of its design, but I do think a dive ball would look nice too. Or maybe a premier ball? I do like it when ball colors are used more like "accents" rather than strictly matching all their colors
No. 439909
>>439898Finally a blog for my kind of autism
>>439906Luxury ball has a nice contrast with the black color of the ball and the pale yellow of Milotic
>>439897Heal Ball is cute and useful
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>>439897the heal ball, but only this variant with the dark pink, the one with the light pink is kinda ugly
No. 439955
>>439906Personally I've seen too many sweaty "luxury ball only" moids so now I kinda dislike it.
If you're able to, a fast ball would match the yellow and orange tail, but the dive ball typically comes with blue bubbles when you send it out so I really like that one for any aquatic pokemon
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>>439886>entrance animationsLike the ball capsule visual effects in Gen 4?
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>>440042nta but the balls themselves come with different animations when you throw a pokemon out, it's been a thing since like gen 3
No. 440096
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Why are these two retards not popular, unlike train twins?
No. 440097
>>440096Because
look at them, nonna. At least the train twins are kinda endearing in their autism kek
No. 440100
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>>440096they're hideous. the traintards are also kinda ugly but really cute, and their uniforms are cool. plus, ingo and emmet embody two different personality types, while these two ugly sons of bitches act the same.
No. 440102
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sordward could never
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>>440096>"hurrdurr why are these ugly retards unpopular???"you fucking tell us
No. 440108
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i love the artwork on the ex cards in the pocket tcg game, at least we don't need to shell put a fortune unlike the physical ones.
look how cute meowth is
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>>440110your question was already answered hoe
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>>440110maybe if sword and shield twins were suffering from male pattern balding they'd be more popular
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>>440108I pulled this card today! Controversial perhaps, but I love meowth yet hate team rockets meowth
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>>440137meowth is the cutest cat pokemon. it's a shame it got turned into an annoying villain team mascot
No. 440566
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>>440276But the villain team happens to be the best thing about the anime
No. 440588
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>>440566love these three dumbasses like you wouldn't believe
No. 440626
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>>440110I disagree, the train autists are handsome and cute even in their canon designs and they have some delicious uniform moe.
Looking like weirder versions of Raidou Kuzunoha is still looking like Raidou Kuzunoha, aka hot.
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>>440588same, they're more interesting than the protags. Meowth is just too cute
>>440137my fave meowth is the gigantamax one bc he looks like longcat, remonds me of old timey internet
No. 440634
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>fucking Emlan of all people wanted to fuck them
No. 440650
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>>440588>>440589>>440566As a kid I used to hate them but as an adult they're great
No. 440651
>>440566Even as a kid I found team rocket so boring and predictable they're what made me fall off the show fully. They never added anything for me, they just interrupted the plot I actually cared for and wasted all the screen time doing the same thing over and over when that time could have been spent on showing different "new" pokemon and characters. I eventually picked the show back up again as an adult, I could still only really stand team rocket in Alola because there they'd just hang out in the background while running a donut shop kek
It's not like I hate them as characters, if they had shown up like once every 10 episodes I'm sure I'd love them.
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hello!? since when was this here?
No. 441023
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At first there wasn't a doubt in my mind that legends ZA would bring new fun evolutions to old pokemon like the first legends game, until I realized just how much of a Sinnoh feature that really was. Now I'm honestly questioning if there's gonna be a single new evolution at all, I think they'll just be replaced with temporary mega forms instead which I personally find a lot more boring.
No. 441024
>>440634KEEEEK my girl has always had kinda weird taste and I love her for it
Not as bad as Humon drawing Jack Black and Kyle Gass porn, I guess
No. 441026
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I just bought pokemon moon for my 3ds. It's my first pokemon game ever, I'm so excited! Any tips you guys think I should know as a beginner?
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nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
No. 441028
>>441026I love SM, legit one of my favorite pokemon games. Just enjoy it! Pokemon is easy enough that you'll be able to figure it all out and have a good time.
Some minor tips though:
STAB - Same Type Attack Bonus. It means if you use for example a fire type pokemon its fire type moves will be 50% stronger.
Stats - check if your pokemon has a higher Attack or Special Attack. If they're about the same you don't have to worry too much, but if one is a lot higher you want to make sure you pick that kind of moves for ot. So Attack = physical movies. Special attack = special moves
Putting a pokemon to sleep first makes it a lot easier to catch
It's possible they already explained this to you in the game, I can't remember lol
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I never realized how slutty the male pogo rocket grunt is. His shirt is so tight you can see his tits and abs outline…
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>>441040Lillie is only annoying if you hate the story and the characters and just want to mindlessly catch and battle. I really like Lillie's story arc and I think her design is cute.
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>>441234>Try to locate info on this mouse since it's so fucking cute>Barely anything comes upAww…
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>Tom screams
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No. 441793
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>>441493>>441735this one is a reference to this meme
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wait Poppy is canon 9 years old, she is one year younger than Ash's age so she actively chose to dress like a toddler for herself wtf
No. 442094
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>RIP Rachael Lillis edition
I just wanted to post an image to acknowledge her passing away. The old series and games will always be close to me even though I don't keep up with the franchise anymore. When I was a kid I imagined myself being a water type trainer like Misty. I also never knew until recently that she was Misty and Jessie, it's really cool she had a range like that.
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