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Previous thread: >>68815Nitpicking will now result in a ban.
Kpop fans are predominantly female. Everything in Kpop is geared toward attracting girls or women to stan and spend money, most successful girl groups (Twice, BP, SNSD, Mamamoo) have a big female stanbase who are more loyal than fickle guy fans.
Men stan F1, basketball, hockey, soccer teams and sports stars like Federer Messi Nadal, they spend money on sportwear and game tickets instead of Kpop unless they have feminine interests.
good choice lol>>70816
Anyway following from the last thread, I've been thinking… Yeri's invovlvement in Red Velvet seems to be based all on knowing X people in the industry and has ever since been pushing the theme of blantant networking. I wouldn't be suprised if she starts buying up rental properities soon. Even though she's not as popular she comes off like IU (fake innocent but knows shit and shadow people). Most idols try not to be in-your-face about it.
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Continuing from the last thread>>70806>I know I'm a bad person for saying this and thinking this but I find Alexa so fucking ugly I don't even understand how she got a career in kpop. She's a sweet girl and seems like a hard worker but I swear to god I never found anyone in kpop this ugly, she looks like the retarded and much more disproportionate twin sister of Jihyo. Her nose is weird, face shape, eye distance, she has very bad proportions, her neck is extremely thick and her shoulders are super wide and she's short and looks extremely short.
Damn you're right. She looks like a tranny to me.
wasn't she the one that messed up the peekabo song on produce 101? She seems to be a clout chaser like sorn>>70825
Speaking of sorn, looks like everyone forgot already about the black mask fiasco. Or maybe not, we'll see their next comback, if they get one.
Also I noticed no cube artists were at the end of the year award shows? Did something happen or …
She's a chaebol kid iirc, and was one of the youngest trainees ever right? Who could she possibly know that LSM isn't already in bed with or at least have access to?>>70794
This doesn't seem smart, there's such a glut of celeb makeup lines out now, from the tiniest of ig micro influencers all the way up to Hollywood A/B-list rihanna, kesha, kardashians etc not to mention "kbeauty" exploding internationally lately. Yeah celebs have always done this but right now the market is so saturated, and idk how many palettes or kits parents really wanna plunk down for every year. Also seems so lazy, like theyre not even trying to brand her with anything fresh.
>>70815>most successful girl groups (Twice, BP, SNSD, Mamamoo) have a big female stanbase
Jesus Christ, what are you smoking? Get that into your thick skull, twicefag: girls and women don't
like your unnies. It's only some weirdos on lc (lesbians?) and a few little girls on twitter who still haven't realized that twice is exclusively pandering to males and was solely created as neckbeard fapmaterial. There's zero reason for anybody without a dick to like them. Quit trying to make them into something that they're not.
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Indeed. She's not even the token visual member. Would have made more sense if it was irene or joy. Weren't they brand ambassadors for last year's etude house campaign though? Even her ad was the least appealing.
I think you're all overthinking this.
Her mother is a hairdresser (she said it in a few interviews or something) so she's not from a chaebol family I think, rv fans would have found out about it by now if she was.
Lee Soo Man just added her to RV because OT4 was considered too old on average so they needed a young member to attract pedo uncles because they drive up album and merch sales. Yeri was the best-looking out of the crop of trainees then so she was added for her age and "aegyo", simple as that>>70843
I actually think Wendy and Seulgi look the worst in these pictures. Seulgi doesn't have a "high fashion face" no matter how much her stans cow about it, and Wendy's eyebrows always look glued on for whatever reason>>70840
"Twice is lesbian" stan twitter is in shambles after 2 members have been caught dating men (and ugly ones at that).
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Edward can’t do makeup much less sing kek
This really sends lmao the first 4-5 things were more than enough, then it just keeps going and going, fucking toppest topkek of the day
Is this chicky chaebol status too? (or equivalent)>>70399>SM entertainment are going to release a new rookie group. SM who have been in charge of S.E.S The Grace, SNSD, Fx, Red Velvet will also be debuting a new girl group who will have its own uniqueness, visuals and music genre in KPOP
KEK nothing has been unique in kpop for literally years, and SM is one of the guiltiest, giving all his groups that glossy generic sound…it's like sonic plastic surgery, so fitting.
Waiting to hear yeri's cOnNeCtiOns, im totally willing to give her credit but even if she has relatives on every continent fully running the illuminati, i mean, LSM would def already be into that shit so what is she providing other than being a potential sponsor target, or worse…
It's apparently just a collab, this new brand is launching soon and she has two shades that she named or something>>70839
99% of idols are talentless anon, I don't get why we're wasting time on Yeri alone. She doesn't do all that much to generate milk, personally I find Joy the biggest wannabe out of the whole group. Her fans delude themselves into thinking she'll overtake Irene soon kek>>70848
But not with round faces, which she has. Her face just looks chubby no matter what
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Another shitty op pic. Le sigh.(spoiler imgs like this)
High fashion loves monolids and high cheekbones, both of which Seulgi has. Her face is also kind of square shaped which again, is loved by high fashion because it looks more masculine and thus androgynous. >>70843
Joy has the mooniest face. I have a feeling she’s only the “most” popular because she was on wgm with that one kid. She comes off as so try hard to me, I can’t stand her.
Yeri looks old and young at the same time. Her lips look like beak. It’s hard to believe that this is all sm had to throw into RV.
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someone really needs to tell jimin to love himself lol
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I see, sorry, the article I quoted didn't state that she was just their muse.>>70860>her lips look like beaks
Kek. It's a crime to let her be the face of lip products.
This is what happens when you're brainwashed to look like a girly teen boy with squeaky voice instead of becoming a normal man.
I can imagine Jimin actually becoming similar with that Oli London guy. Maybe Jimin will call for ps advice, lol.
RV are prob unable to tour with Wendy hurt and with new SM GG coming, RV may be on the backburner. Irene has CFs, Joy did dramas, Wendy/Seulgi will continue singing, Yeri has no clear path in music or acting and her parents are prob upset SM havent given her solo opportunities. She's pretty young so she can try anything but her visuals limit her future in showbiz.
Yeri is like Kara Heo Youngji or Tara Hwayoung situation being added last as an extra maknae and not having as much time to develop her solo fandom before the group's popularity dips.
imo seulgi should go solo (although she really doesn't have any charisma or anything else interesting that will attract non-fans) and wendy can do more mature, slow songs and OSTs. These don't require dancing and it's what she seems to like more anyway.
I don't care about the rest, i just don't want joy to act and yeri should stop trying to be next IU with that nasally, irritating voice.
This is RV's best song imo (Bad Boy, Ice Cream Cake, Red Flavor etc just sound like Itzy, Twice, Momoland level viral ditties) because it shows them as grown women with relationship failings equal to men, it's a very IU kinda song and if IU sang it she'd win SOTY no question.
RV deserves a fair shot to win song awards, too bad they cant promote it at all as 5.
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Nayeon has a career with an ugly incel chin and fucked up teeth and so do Jooe and Hwasa so I don't think Yeri's face will hold her back, especially since she fits Korean beauty standards more than Seulgi and Joy do (Joy has a huge horse mouth and Seulgi looks too androgynous at times). Her complete lack of talent and annoying personality is one thing but I've never found her ugly personally. I get you hate her but she's not some bridge troll>>70871
Because of shit like this
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the rest of the members did tell him he doesn’t need to lose weight
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"I've got your slippers, your dinner, your desert & so much more"
…see, now this is a woman, not the toxic
3rd wave feminist fembot superstar singers of the west. The muslim shieks are right; western education is too, toxic
.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
now i want to know why Jungkook is obssesed with losing weight
Jungkook has been kinda ana these past two years with constant dieting
jimin is a massive attention whore.
He does this shit for attention,because if he really was this pro-ana qween he would be losing weight instead of gaining weight
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So, it's been exposed that melon was doing chart manipulation on sbs. IU posted about it on her instagram. The TV caption said "i feel i know why they do sajaegi…[chart manipulation]" and IU said "please don't do it "
There's some twitter threads on it but keep in mind they were written by fans so grain of salt https://twitter.com/saranghaedks/status/1213492449756241920?s=21https://twitter.com/jaebambum/status/1213485133866655744?s=21
Who do you guys think are guilty of cheating? Definitely all of those random indie singers. And i think sbs released this now to try to make themselves look better after what happened to Wendy
They were big time koreaboos so idt they were interested in jpop, j-idols, and all that shit
>Or maybe jyp makes them act like jpop idols to set them apart from the others or something
This and because it's obviously what people expect japanese girls to be like (kek this thread is also proof of this)
tbh I don’t understand Japanese kboos…
Western weebs kinda I guess
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And how rich is this girl's parents for her to be allowed to join a girl group?
Someone said “worst of 2019” in the General thread but worst of the decade is way more appropriate. Their music is shit-tier (vid related, more noise).
They have another song called “I’m So Pretty,” which makes me cringe because they are NOT a visual group in the slightest and it makes it look like they’re trying so hard.
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What is this choreography??? Are they supposed to be a joke group or is any of this serious?
but Korea and japan are so similar….. kek western weebs probably like how different Japan is vs the west
I really don't get idols, what does he want to achieve? It's always idols with sexy bodies who are the most popular ones. While koreans have different standards than the west, they also don't like total ana-chans. Jimin gained popularity because he showed his abs, now Jk is the most popular thanks to his body and for female idols it's similar (e.g. Hani or Seolhyun would've never gotten this popular if it wasn't for their slightly curvier body). So why go for the opposite? Makes zero sense. >>70906
He always says he wants to lose weight but then never acts on it. Imo he seems content with being more muscular, maybe he's only saying that because the other members also always say that?
I assume he loves the attention and the "uwu no my poor baby please eat well" comments that come with it.
Besides that,it's 2020 and no one gets praised for being ana chan anymore (at least when it comes to males in Korean industry).Even Koreans are thristing over muscles.
He seems to have lost brain cells over the years too.
this is why i dont quite have a good feeling about japanese idols joining korean groups in mass like the last couple of years
its bound to create some cultural clashing in how they project their sexuality
Pretty sure he's an attention seeker and has an ED.I think it might've started around Wings-era.
Usually people try to hide their ED's and it's uncommon for them to openly admit that they want to be skelly thin.Like why the hell would he say that >>70904
on a VLIVE while sitting with his members if it wasn't for attention?
fuck the skelly thin trend tbh
nothing wrong with being naturally healthy slim
but they shouldn’t be aiming to look like 11 year old boys kek
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boring. why do they all have the same aesthetic? arent korean tired of always watching the same kind of music video? i wish there was some variety
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>>70958>but they shouldn’t be aiming to look like 11 year old boys kek
Whenever Jimincel's weight is at its lowest, he straight up looks like a preteen girl (even next to V who's also a slim dude).
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Update on the monsta x situation. Apparently the married woman that Shownu was sleeping with was the wife of U-kiss member Lee Kiseop, Yoona Jung. Kiseop the one who sent han seohee that message exposing them when the Wonho drama was going down.
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jennie wore a blonde wig once for promos kek
So his wife cheated on him after they got married? They got married last august, I checked.>>70996
I dont think ukiss' fans care. He's left the group, plus he's became uglier and uglier as the years went by. He couldn't sing either.
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They had to alter the pic brightness to give her a decent blonde look. This is how she looked like behind the scene, so ugly.
Am I the only one that finds these posts somewhat disgustingly racist
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Kpop Twitter is trying to 'expose' twitter.. AKA a completely anonymous, out of nowhere Twitter count made a huge thread about it. Haven't read all of it but this first part lines up with what we've talked about in previous threads re: Madam Shim. Genuinely can't be bothered to read through the whole thread, but here it is if anyone wants to see; https://twitter.com/iotmxc/status/1213110503591022598
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Off topic, but E'dawn looked busted before, but not this level busted. He legit looks like a meth addicted tranny now.
She has the talent but I think SM will try to give her that slow "classy sexy" R&B-type sound and that niche has already been oversaturated by the likes of Sunmi and Chungha so I doubt how well she'd do there. She has some public recognition but not near as much as someone like Jennie, for example, and I honestly don't think she'll fit into other genres - Wendy and even occasionally Joy did better than her on stage when it came to brighter "Red" concepts.
Unless SM is saving a really bomb, better than Bad Boy-type of song for her she might struggle to get off the ground with her solo because there's nothing new she can offer on her own
Where did you get this from? I don't see this pop up anywhere else?
At this point I thought only stuff like this would be scandalous in kpop-world, considering every dating-scandal nowadays gets swept under the rug.
But if not even this gets attention…>>71024
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Those posts in a nutshell is this banner
your not the only one. sounds like bitter weebs >>71005
looks like nayeon's rat mother in this kek
Only true weebs would say it's racist to mention that the japanese idol industry and their openness when it comes to the sexualization of minors is messed up.>>71056
A lot of artists are panicking now lol Already denying, demanding apologies, disabling instagram comments,…https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/01/btss-rm-speaks-up-about-sajaegi-chart-manipulation-during-golden-disc-awards-acceptance-speech>RM thanked their fans ARMY, and reminisced about when BTS first debuted. He then spoke up about “sajaegi”, “There is one thing that I want to talk about too. We (BTS) are blessed with luck, and thanks to many people, we are able to say what we want to. However, there are also many artists who can’t do the same, and are making music sincerely in places that we can’t see. I hope that in 2020, their efforts and sincerity will not be in vain, and that they can reach out to the public fairly. I hope that things that have been done wrong in the 2010s can end with the 2010s ending.”
Oh really, when why do you never reign in your crazed fans? Why tf did you perform in a dictatorship?
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>Block B’s Park Kyung has been receiving much attention online for his bold statement about artists that manipulate the music charts for their benefit.
>On November 24, he posted a message onTwitter that read, “I wish I could manipulate the charts like group Vibe, Song Hayea, Lim Jae Hyun, Jeon Sang Keun, Jang Deok Chul, Hwang In Wook.”
>Park Kyung is not the only one openly talking about sajaegi though. Rapper DinDin, who recently released his first official album, posted on his Instagram, “The music chart is called ‘concrete’ because there is too much sajaegi going on. But I was somehow able to make it into the charts this time. I’ll probably be out on the charts soon.”He added that he wished to do music until there are no more machine manipulations.https://www.koreaboo.com/news/block-bs-park-kyung-just-shamed-artists-name-manipulating-charts/>>70913
I'm kinda surprised that a vibe member was mentioned there (yoon min soo). Vibe is a 1st gen vocal group and they have had loyal fans since forever, although not as many as idols fans but they will always have stable count of listeners unlike newer hiphop or indie artists. I guess competition is really harsh that even a senior group fell into desperation.
>In particular, group Vibe is a senior group compared to Block B, but Park Kyung does not seem to take that into mind when he posted the comment online.
As of today, nitpicking is now a bannable offense in the Kpop Critical threads. It adds nothing of substance to the discussion and lowers the quality of the threads.
Reminder that sperging over Jpop is also a bannable offense, we have a Jmusic thread here if you want to talk about it >>>/m/14863
That would be very interesting to see, no doubt some big names would be involved so the fallout would be hilarious kek>>71066
I know this is sarcasm but: Dispatch drama, fallout from Burning Sun/YG shadowpeople, Madame Shin, HanSohee, Wendy's broken bones/SM trajectory and the future of the industry, etc.
Basically: Whatever we were talking about before nitpicking became big here. >>70932
There used to be a wikipage where people would document the list of all possible groups in the Kpop industry, but it's probably dead and out of date. It would be interesting if it was complete and detailed to show how difficult it is for many groups that don't have the networking power and connections to get by and last long in the already small Korean market.
I knew it was suspicious that all of these nugu groups were charting higher than artists like taeyeon iu bts exo or twice. The gp love them (even though all their music is crap), so it was weird how there were random chaebols who make the same indie shit were charting above them. I have a feeling jyp used sagaeji for itzy too since their music is noise but they didn't seem to use it for twice or stray kids….>>71059
They cannot speak when bighit uses sajaegi for their brother group txt kek They get high on the charts from their fans skipping school and streaming with every device in the house. Otherwise, they would've disbanded back in 2016.
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I never thought of it that way but of course it makes sense: nugu artists literally can't afford to push their own songs (they also don't have enough fans who'd do that for them), it's companies themselves who push some random singer they're not associated with in any way, just to spite a rival company/group and nobody will ever know it was them. It also doesn't matter whether they have a comeback at the same time as their rival, because in the end all the industry and their fans care about are records ("First …" / "Most …").
And if it's SM and JYP artists who were especially targeted it makes me think that it could've been either YG (we've seen that BP can't even sell a couple hundred concert tickets) or back when BTS was less successful, Bighit.
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Source: Star News via Natehttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/01/twices-jihyo-criticized-for-her.html
Jihyo: "People who seem like attention seekers keep mumbling('웅앵웅') about it so I'm telling you, I was just feeling sick. I'm sorry. I'm sure you were having fun because you had something to attack me with. Too bad I couldn't do anything about feeling sick."
'웅앵웅' is a type of slang that stands for mumbling/muttering, not being coherent, usually used in arguments in a mocking manner.
1. [+3,551, -412] There's nothing wrong with '웅앵웅' itself but I do think it kind of ruins it for me when a celebrity I like uses it
2. [+3,475, -404] She has quite the temper ㅋㅋ
3. [+2,270, -254] Try to think of this by changing the genders. Imagine if BTS said something like "can the attention seekers please stop stomping around" ('쿵쾅' means to stomp around, usually used by anti-feminists to signify that 'fat jealous women' are stomping into the comments).
4. [+543, -63] Is it normal to call your fan an attention seeker? and accuse them of muttering?
5. [+536, -38] Judging by the article, it doesn't sound like a clarification, more like she was mocking people. She brought this upon yourself. Why is she doing this? Twice's image is already good without this stuff.
6. [+535, -51] ㅋㅋㅋ Just listen to that arrogance
7. [+488, -28] This ruins my image of her. Seems like she's made all the money she needs and is checked out.
8. [+423, -50] What's so wrong with people being curious about why she wasn't on stage??? Her reaction is so low class.. does she think she's above us all because she's a celebrity?? Twice seems super sensitive, and have a lot of scandals too… (yes, I agree that their stalker issue is in need of harsh punishment!!) It really puts into perspective how the previous generation idols were more professional…
9. [+360, -25] She should just express her hate instead of being pathetic by mocking them like this
11. [+278, -48] Yes, you do realize that 웅앵웅 is used by Megalia and Womad communities to put down men and soldiers, right? ^^ It's the same context as if a male celebrity used an Ilbe word.
12. [+252, -18] '웅앵웅' is not good for her image. It's a word that is most often connected with feminist communities… This clarification won't be good for her image this time.
13. [+230, -23] To those of you who don't understand the context of '웅앵웅', just imagine if a BTS member had used an Ilbe word
You like her because she calls Twice fancafe fans attention seekers for asking where she is? Lmao look at the upvotes, jeez Jihyo is dumb AF.
1. [+6,054, -1,746] First time seeing a girl group member use words like this to a worried fan wondering about why she wasn't on stage. And on a chatting app that fans have to pay for to be in, no less… why is she treating them like attention seekers?
2. [+3,909, -938] I never imagined she would ever say something like this.. I got goosebumps the moment I read it..
3. [+3,669, -907] If a male idol accused a fan of 'stomping around', would you call it a misunderstanding too? You wouldn't…
4. [+3,193, -736] Fine, I can give a pass on '웅애웅'… but calling your own fan an attention seeker? By someone who calls themselves the leader?
good on her for not giving a fuck and saying what she wants. i'm pretty sure all her creepy incel fans who left are gonna be replaced by radfems so she wins in the end.
seems like knets forgot that bts had two albums where majority of the songs degraded women.
The second a female idol speaks for herself she's arrogant. You all see the writing on the wall already.
It just speaks larger to what I've been saying prior about Twice. They are going though a shift like SNSD. They cater to men in the beginning but they still have a sizeable female base that is slowly growing, taking over their uncle fanbase because they know the men will get bored since everyone ages and they don't like that (for their weird reasons), kicking them to the wayside inevitably and stanning younger groups. Female fans offer stability, no matter the gender of the group.
Too bad an idol's job literally involves not throwing a bitchfit at fans whether they are incels or tween girls. She's unprofessional. If a customer service officer told you to fuck off and stop making their day worse, you'd congratulate them for having balls?
Maybe farmers here wanna see Twice be over and cheer on suicidal moves like that but if I were her groupmate I'd tell her to STFU if she wants to bitch.
To give some context: she was absent during MAMA, so naturally her fans asked what happened. She then wrote that stuff in her fancafe (fans need to pay to be allowed access) and while some men felt attacked by that word, thinking it's only used by feminists, it's actually a normal twitter slang nowadays, but of course older people don't know that.
So yeah, she was just rude to her fans. Sorry but no "feminist queen", she only made herself even more unpopular than she already was before.
>>71091>out of concern
We all know fans' concerns are actually infantilizing and controlling. That's not actually nice.
Besides who gives a fuck except Twicefags ? She gives us some milk, enjoy
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JYP would kick her out if that happened because radfem fans don't buy as much merch and albums as uncle fans do>>71072
BTS used to add Bigbang and 2PM tags to their videos, so that when anyone searched for those groups on YT they'd get BTS in the recommendations. Lately I've been seeing a lot of TXT popping up when I don't have any boygroups on my Youtube Kpop playlist as well, they're certainly fucking with the algorithms now
So ? Doesn't mean they have all the rights. These fans are the worse. They think they're normal and being nice when in reality they're fucking psychos.
It was definitely a dumb move but it's refreshing to see.
Are men in SK really so bad that Momo can't do any better than Heechul?
Idols are not rockstars, it's idiotic to think they are. Idols don't make a living by writing music and playing instruments, they earn money by playing up a fantasy image of being a friend, girlfriend, buddy to stans.
Being rude like Jihyo ruins that fantasy for fans who will just quit stanning. Same reason why nobody stans iljin school bullies. If Jihyo was good at writing or producing music she doesn't have to be an idol playing uo a manufactured image, she can be a rudeass solo artist who makes good songs. She has no musical talent so she has to keep her bitchy side under wraps as an idol.
Male idols who are Momo's age are all fuckbois who don't commit to serious relationships in their 20s because it affects their showbiz earnings as an idol? If Momo dates a non-idol it could turn out like Hara, where she gets blackmailed because of her fame.
In all the KB videos on YouTube Heechul has a ton of female fans who like how savage or flirty he is. Gross. Somehow I doubt he is serious about her.
Most men in this industry are fuckboys. That's not an excuse.
Media are brainwashing us since little to think that old farts are better for us. Hell no. Men are not less immature than us, they're just allowed to be.
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Obviously the normal thing to do after tripping is to kneel and pose, and have another group member kneel. Vapid attention seekers.
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“Don’t ship us!”(cringe)
calm down. no fangirling remember? a hate boner still having a boner. you are way to involved. sit back, relax and enjoy drama unfold.>>71104>male idols are all fuckbois
some female ones too. a pink has a rep. smart girls.
i think heechul is serious about her, i mean…not as though he could get any better…ever (character compatibility aside). she is rich, famous and young enough to later be his nurse etc.
however, i would be surprised if a women like momo would settle for him. she can do way better -character wise at the very least. >>71109
stop watching so much tv.
look at the underdeveloped research about childrens diseases and illnesses stemming from mens part of the dna. at latest by 30 it starts going downhill.
the stuff is out there saying that older men are in no way better for procreation. rather the opposite.media is getting better at casting age appropriate actors. just dont watch those that dont.
please stop posting bts. he slipped, the cuddle. who cares. dont post irrelevant stuff like that.
And who knows about these researches exactly ? Nobody
Media are controlled by old men and they tell us the story they want to tell. I can turn off my tv, but you can't deny the influence media have on our behaviours. It seems to get better only bc more and more people can't stand these bullshit
I'm guessing you are the same retard from the previous thread who keeps on spamming about them.
No one cares.>>71119
That member was Taehyung. Taehyung replied to a post calling out a shipper.
Unlike you who said that it was jungkook in the previous thread LOL, when it was actually taehyung.
At least learn who is who before you act like a obsessed shipper.
pretty much sums up the entire i-fandom, always being selective about who and what they want to "cancel"-nothing less expected from performative sjw-ism.
For heechul they think it's ok cause they know him from watching his ~savage~ clips from knowing bros, and they also think he's some feminist ally because he befriends almost every popular female idol, but the other dude is considered an ugly predator.
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LMFAO so this clip of Rose and Jennie dancing MISERABLY out of sync and being general flops is going viral on instagram
it's from their latest Japan concert and apparently J-netz are furious lmaoooooo
Also ig blinks are SEETHING in the comment section… pathetichttps://www.instagram.com/p/B67nKz_lQrF/
why did they decide to become idols anyway?They never seem to give a fuck bout performing.
Their families are loaded,so it's not like they were desperate enough in hopes of money.
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gif’d it for when it gets deleted like the lazy jennie videos kek
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I get that they’re deranged fans, but I don’t understand how some Ratmys are actually surprised whenever BTS does something simple, like…wow, someone on their team put THOUGHT into the stage design? They’re literally worshipping them over the weakest attempt at creativity I’ve ever seen
That's an awful take lmao even groups with competent vocalists have shit music these days. Companies are aware that stupid kpoppies will eat up whatever shitty noise music they put out so that's what they give them. It doesn't need to be good to make a profit (and never did despite what you gen twoomers think. most of the music was shit back then too.)
Loona have some of the best kpop group music there is and none of them are particularly talented or "higher quality" than the other gen 4 idols.
Yeah but Loona have few great vocalists to carry the group (ex. Chuu, Heejin, Kimlip). It’d be stupid to make a 12 member group and no one was genuinely talented. They’re basically like Exo.
Anyways, nepotism is so fucking rampant in many entertainment industries so I’m not surprised Kpop is choosing rich members who’s parents can pay for basically everything and all the company has to do is give them a name. Those poor idols will have a very slim chance of making it because everything in the industry is about money and connections.
I'm also >>71167
>the original argument was that idols of this generation are overall far less talented than idols of older generations, not about the quality of the music
…The anon I
replied to said the quality of the music is worse now because idols are less talented, and neither of those things are true. You gen twoomers put early gens of kpop (specifically the 2nd gen) on a pedestal when nothing about them was actually any better than current gen. Take off the nostalgia goggles pls.
I still hate I Got A Boy/SM for causing all these shitty disjointed kpop songs.
Some older kpop is shit but SNSD/SHINee/2NE1 were easily more talented than Twice/BTS/Blackpink. Nepotism was less rampant too, every idol nowadays “coincidentally” has disturbingly rich parents
Kek you literally took that moment to call Loona’s discography, specifically, “some of the best there is.” Is that not orbit behavior?
Also, since this is an interesting conversation, what popular groups from the current generation do you think are at par with groups of the past? Because I don’t see how you can make such an argument when most groups today are assembled just for looks or use their money to buy their way into the industry. Just look at every single rookie group that’s come out in the past few years.
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Lisa has the least amount of ass I’ve ever seen yet they still make her twerk
nta but you can be a fan of something and still have opinions grounded in reality and observation. i'd hope some of the fans itt are able to see outside of themselves, take off the stan googles, and look objectively at the groups they like.
i don't know how you expect anyone to take you seriously when your put loona on a pedestal, honestly.
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idk about you guys but I was so shocked to learn Krystal was not "naturally skinny" unlike Jessica. It's pretty conserning knowing that she's been fainting on stage for all these years and her fans just saw it as a quirk she had jfc
the chorus is also so blatantly offensive given they are attempting what seems to be a rain dance lmao… i guess korea barely cares about issues affecting black people i don't see why they would care about native americans.>>71193
hasn't it been over a year since their survival show? honestly yg artists deserve props for being able to have hits despite the woeful management that goes on in that company
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Tvxq is an outlier but shinee was never that good and now that jonghyun is gone…>>71214>Is that not orbit behavior?
No, actually. Everyone whos listened to it knows that, it's true.
There's been talk that her brother writes the songs and lets her take credit, but that's just rumours>>71216
It's so funny whenever any of the BP girls try to be sexy kek. Go ahead and make those hip pads rattle!
if you mean itt then there was a discussion just when they debuted
but yea there's a disturbing pattern with jyp and underaged girls, how long until he gets the "me too" treatment? at their age ITZY members probably don't even fully understand how sick their situation is. I'm surprised they're being exploited like this when their parents are all supposedly rich, do they just not care what their children are doing?
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Junglebook wants a nose ring like Han Ye Seul next, kek how transparent
their mistake was not making it more expensive for retards to buy lmao>>71232
rip in piss>>71253
People were going crazy abour her, just because she was the youngest. It was pretty disturbing.>>71257
"Powiedzcie,że to kurwa żart"
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Uncle fans rejoice.
I can see how there's a demand for them to cb, since they've been around longer than txt but stiil, I would rather them disband than keep pleasuring the ped0s
when it comes out that he’s participated in serious pedo/rapey shit like all the other creeps in the kpop industry the same idiots in the comments will be screeching “we had no idea! he was so nice! you can never tell how a person really is!”
the oldest member of that group is what, 19? how long until he’s on a variety show talking about how he has an uwu cwush on yuna i wonder kek
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JYP is a damn pedo. He’s been sexualizing his idols for 10+ years. Sohee and Hyuna were 14 in this picture and JYP still gave WG a sexy schoolgirl concept.
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this is a JYP special
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Itzy aren't clueless
I love how the comments refer to him as a 'dad' watching his kids with joy kek
Is Heechul a creep? Maybe, maybe not, but given the industry and the shit that blew up this past year, it wouldn't be a surprise if he was that and unfortunately much more.
She's an industry plant and has as much artistic integrity as Blackpink>>71230
I was watching that RV video someone posted and I think her body looks good. Talentless as she is, I'm glad she hasn't gone to the extremes.>>71232
Ofc, they know. That's one of the reasons why they want to be idols. I find it utterly funny when people think they're innocent and shit. Heck, before them becoming ones, they were fetishizing their seniors.
Idk why many can't accept that once you hit puberty sexual desire becomes one of the main thing they dream about. So I wouldn't be surprised if some of them secretly like ahjussis perving after them.
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jihyo wrote a letter apologizing to fans after she got backlash after her rude response to their concern the other day. thoughts?
She should have not made the apology. And ignored them, but JYP probably forced her. I also found out that the comment was made during a vlive event and she said it in a sarcastic matter / towards antis lurking. So it was basically taken out of context.
But it doesn't matter anyway, she's now seen as the "trouble maker" in the group when other idols (especially male) had said and done similar things / worse. Welp. Sucks to suck.
And now people are calling her a feminist for saying "mumbling around" in korean because apparently that's a Megalia /Korean radfem word. That's what made this a bigger deal than usual. Pathetic.
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Twice PR in full force - Momo has also written one apologizing for dating a crusty old idol instead of a crusty old uncle fan
idols with uncle fans: company goes full PR mode to soothe their egos
idols with femcel fans: stans do the company's PR + propaganda for free
Tbh, if the downsides of your job taking over the upsides, than you should quit.
Basically what Mina does, I guess. Or is she by now promoting with the group again…? I lose track.
Why are lolfarmers trying to talk up femcel fans like that psycho sasaeng Jinnabit who turned on Sulli and started to follow Wonyoung? You realize theyre just as crazed or worse as the uncle fans right?
Femcel fans and sasaengs do 99% of the stalking and selling of classified info like flight details or home addresses and numbers. They cause car accidents (a few EXO members), hound out married idols to quit the group, hide in hotel rooms or sell compromising photos to Dispatch.
Truth is thst most female fans don't stan 1 girl group exclusively and will support any girl crush idols but the femcel ones are toxic
as fuck, Jinnabit closed her fansite and acted like Sulli betrayed her for dating Choiza.
It's been brought up numerous times, along with jyp's creepiness and apparent immunity to criticism, and…actually, most of the topics regularly brought up here by newfags. If you're this unwilling to do a search and try to integrate, you can cool it with the fake outrage. Nobody's giving that itzy dance a pass, they even modified it after debut.>>71066
Is there a small grace period while we decide what exactly constitutes nitpicking within the culture of kpc? >>70865
are all quality posts because…well I would elaborate but we can't discuss facial expressions, angles or bodies right?
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I didn't know it was possible to make a group look like a bunch of nct rejects. >>71289
this doesn't even sound like she's addressing her dating because she's talking about something completely different lol>>70986
also Kiseop responded to the accusations on Twitter (the deleted tweet I think was the original accusation tweet)https://twitter.com/KiSSeop91/status/1214048375491792898
she had a right to be in a bitch mood, twice have been overworked and dealing with a lot of shit, she shouldn't have apologized for it
there's a point when even idols gotta drop the facade and get fucking fed up
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she was pretty thin before so it's good that she gained weight.
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Jihyo snapped, but she kinda chose to it's not like Tzuyu with the whole Taiwan flag issue.
The thing with being in a group is that if you throw a fit, it affects other members too. Jihyo has to grow up and deal with it better, everyone works in a team in real life, you don't get to earn millions at 20 years old without ignoring some jabs. I feel bad for the others because it's definitely a situation they don't want and can't control, just like Pentagon after Edawn left or Crayon Pop after Soyul quit.
Idol careers are shit yet pay well precisely because they rely on fickle public opinion, sell sex appeal as teens, and are doomed if any members leave or any scandal taints the opinion their teenage fans have of them. Inetz can rant 24/7 about minors dancing sexily or incel fans but most idols chose to become an idol and not an indie singer or actor because they wanna milk money by appealing sexually to such stans. Idols know the game.
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Tryhard? That's definitely Nayeon who acts like a doofus and aegyos by herself during fansigns to amuse fans. There's a famous Jihyo gif where she looks like she wants to hurl when a fan tries to link fingers, everyone in SK has seen it kek. Idols are one step above Disney/kid's channels TV hosts in SK, their main audience are tweens and teen boys and girls so they are expected to treat their fans with kids' gloves and not hurt their feefees. My own niece is a BP and Twice fan and copies their dances so the whole idea of JYP sexualising Itzy is silly if you realize even 9-10year olds watch Twice, Itzy, AOA etc and mimics their moves. The reason why companies dont want them to date is also because 10-21 year olds (70% of idol fandom) hate the idea of their idol not being a fantasy bf/gf until those tweens grow up and date themselves.
A Korean cultural quirk 101 Inetz don't get in why older male idol date younger idols is, in SK men who haven't served 2 years of military are seen as immature boys who aren't real marriage material.
Male idols and celebs put off military until age 30, but most men serve after high school and everyone in SK knows 2 years of army are a BIG relationship hurdle many couples break up over. Usually 19 year old high school couples break up when the guy goes to serve because they only meet during weekends. The girl gets lonely and has new suitors, or moves away to enter university and drifts apart. No woman thinks it's a good idea to seriously date a Korean guy who hasn't served his 2 years, because there'll come a time he's basically earning peanuts and unable to see you all week.
If you date a male celeb under 30 who hasn't served, you're taking a huge risk since you'll most likely breakup unless you marry before he conscripts like Taeyang or Sungmin, even then it's a big burden to see your bf once a week only.
Korean parents encourage their daughters to date men who have served because they're more stable and able to commit to a serious relationship without making his gf wait 2 years, all the teen couples around me who were deeply in love broke up when the man went to the army (they famously visit masseuse and escorts) while the girl goes off to study in college.
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Can you guys please do a search and try to integrate? And learn to sage? This is why the thread can't improve, every five days you're rehashing the same tired old shit>>71229
What makes you think people in South Korea care about Native Americans? You think Korean schoolchildren learn about the U.S. in history class?
Jihyo was slammed a few yrs ago for dressing as a Native American, like she's supposed to learn the entire history of every single country so as to never offend anyone as an idol? Sarcastic tinfoil: no wonder idols' performance abilities and stage presence have been going downhill so steadily since the start of 3rd gen, it's more important to fans that idols act and speak completely perfectly and inoffensively because that's more important to sjw snowflakes than actual, you know, entertainment (which is, first and foremost, your idol's actual job
Obviously im exaggerating but it wouldn't surprise me if taking on the huge stress of managing fans' feelings and seeming "woke" have taken over actual singing and dancing as the most valuable idol traits. JYP himself speaks often about personality>talent and i get what he means…a ton of stuff fits under this category but today more than ever it is more important that idols be malleable for this social skills type training and be willing to learn to "play the game"
I don't care much for Jihyo or JYPE but I'm glad she didn't have to apologize for this, she meant no harm, it was Halloween and it's not her job to memorize the entire western world's agenda and ideology just to be a singer in an idol group(race derailing)
Americans have internet but many believe America is "spreading democracy" and not inflicting state terrorism on innocent civilians by bombing Korea (a country split apart by US vs USSR proxy wars), dropping Agent Orange or Napalm on Vietnam to stop the spread of communism, or Middle East for oil. Nevermind the US topplies Russian-allied elected leader and supports anti-democratic dictators like Park Chung Hee or Iran's Shah because they are US allies. Why is that?
Why can't Americans not sperg about spreading democracy (they just wanna take down Russia and bomb its allies) or cultural appropriation when their country does actual racist acts like interning Japanese Americans in concentration camps after Pearl Harbour or detaining non whites like Iranians or Mexicans at the border?
Nobody in Europe or Asia cares about blackface or cultural appropriation because it's a waste of time to be outraged by silly costumes. Maybe 1 person out of 100000 dances a raindance or wears a Red Indian costume, and nobody minds if they arent shitting on that culture ? When white people wear kimonos and geisha makeup, hanbok or cosplay Anime, is it cultural appropriation? Even if it is, most Asians and Europeans are not offended because their societies are not migrant heavy and there were never any native Americans in Europe or Asia who told people it hurt their feelings. How are they supposed to know?
Wanting foreigners to go online and copy American reactions to cultural appropriation is obnoxiously self important, why should the American way of behaving be the world standard? Because it's a big country? Should foreigners copy Chinese tourist behavior? The US should sort real problems like Native American poverty and racism instead of sperging over cultural appropriation.(derailing)
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Does anyone realize that she went off on an anti that was harassing other members the day prior?
It's been taken out of context. She wasn't doing it to a fan she was doing it because haters have been in previous member's streams trolling.
Everything has been taken out of context. It's not even that she was rude to a fan, there is nothing there other than the blahblahblah word = feminist bullshithttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/01/jihyo-issues-apology-for-her-recent.html
Netizenbuzz translating the bad comments to make it worse, as usual.
>>71339>>one of its minor themes is the rich family appropriating Native American culture for their own amusement, and how that mindset ties into class oppression
I didn't think much of that scene at all. Do enlightened Americans think it's cultural appropriation when they weeb out on anime or think California rolls are sushi, afterall the US nuclear bombed Japan and killed millions of innocents and military bases in Okinawa are deeply unpopular among locals who want their land back?
South Park parodied Pokemon and Family guy shat on Kpop, how come no one in SK cries cultural appropriation?
Is it cultural appropriation for US to talk about human rights, a concept that originated in Babylon aka modern Iraq while bombing the country to dust and killing hundred of thousands of innocents over nuclear weapons that don't exist?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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MOMOLAND Daisy told KBS that 'Survival MOMOLAND' was rigged and she was told she was going to join the group before the final episodehttps://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=102&oid=056&aid=0010780160
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Wtf ..and I mean what the FUCK happened to Suga. He in by no means is fat or overweight at all, but his jaw shave has made his face look like a shapeless blob. I genuinely dont understand why he did this to himself. He straight up looks horrifying
Are the people on that article that triggered
over alleged feminist terminology because they're mostly male fans afraid that their fantasy gfs might sympathize with evil feminists or what? I will never understand this outrage over being associated with feminism.
I'm proud she had the courage to come out like this. >>71381
Damn isn't Momoland under MNET? Fuck good luck on the lawsuit girl These networking companies are something else. >>71367
That's like being called an alt-righter for saying "soyboi" or a e-thot for saying "incel" Those terms are common now, so it's really not a big deal. Even worse that "blahblahblah" is too general to be even seen like that. It's not like she said a slur jfc. If radfems said "I hate cake" and Jihyo says in a conversation "I hate cake" you retards will say she's megalia.
Also, nice try saying those are female versions of "Ilbe".
For those that don't know "Ilbe" is Korean 4chan, so you can expect what kind of shit men say on there.
WOMAD/Megalia are feminist communities.
They are not the equivalent. I know lots of i-nets want to copy what faceless Korean-speaking avatars say but you have to think of why they are doing that. Ilbe posters have been caught before pretending to be women on sites like Naver to change the demographics on article. We see it here to in America (ie. reddit). >>71374
I hope, she's dealt with a lot of shit this past year form those same men implicating her being one of the idols involved in the Burning Sun sex exploitation ring, stalkers, etc. so I understand the stress she feels as a leader. And in the letter to her fans, she mentioned being on medication (referring to her mental health) so I wish her the best.
So the company asked all trainees to pay $60k to even participate in the show, and another $1m USD for Daisy to terminate the contract?
Jesus that's some STEEP debt at such a young age. They could have 5 Bboom Bbooms in a row and that probably still wouldn't be enough to pay it all back
It's interesting that X1 has to disband while izone can stay. Seems like female fans are less forgiving than males.>>71255>nose ring
"BTS baby cow"-enthusiasts would be overjoyed… Of course stans deny that, but it's much more likely that they were making fun of her.>>71354>she was told she was going to join the group before the final episode
Lmao and why would they do that? She's neither talented nor beautiful, she obviously must've left out the part there her mommy and daddy bribed them to favor her over other girls.
agreed. i barely recognized her>>71350
vid related posted a few threads back, nayeon's fan friendly to all the fanboys until this foreign female fan showed up. i can see why they gave her weird looks tho, apart from momo and jihyo
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>>71397>apart from Jihyo
Watch the other fanmeet video, kek
She trained the longest in JYP and yet she isn't popular among Onces, Jihyo must feel bitter.
Plus nobody knows if she was forced to train by her parents.
meh, the fact that idols have to apologise for dating rumours in the first place is fucked up. he shouldn't be sorry for… just living his life? like a normal human being? if anything the fans should apologise to him because they were invading his privacy and harassing him for simply having a gf.
but that's kpop for you. the fans are so detached from reality they think this kind of shit is completely normal.
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Remember when Dean used to look cute and not like a troon who didn’t shave(nitpick)
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LOONA's Haseul was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. She's not a very popular member as far as I know but i'm wondering where this will lead the group, since their entire concept is the 12 of them.
insensitive tinfoil - this is partially an excuse to push # back even further and/or save money they would've had to spend on her individual teaser.
Mina's anxiety I understand but loona never do anything… Hmm…
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Oli London's surgeons probs referred to a Taemin photo by mistake when cutting him up
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Is he rich, why do they let a crazy nutjob appear on TV?
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I just came across this and just, this is some next level cringy shit. blerg.
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rats are now attacking a chinese former exo member for daring to be offended when someone called him a bts member. and pointing out the fact that they weren’t near exo’s popularity back when he was in exo. lol.
racism towards asians is a-okay when it’s directed towards anyone who isn’t btshit.
>>71474Coming from an exol
Tao honestly deserved to get shit on for that, he didn't have to be so rude about it. And I don't think that was racist.
Fuck that old creep ohmes and his ratmy cocksucking though.
Nta, it's not racist but still a reason to get mad. You can't just walk up to any asian man and ask if he's a bts member. Maybe that's not the first time this has happened and that's why he additionally said that about their popularity? I think Tao is an irrelevant loser (he had no real success after he left) but I totally get his reaction.
Ratmys are just jumping at any tiny opportunity to scream oppression. And everybody on twitter saying that Exo only made it because of big 3 privilege, while Txt is a thing… It's been years since Bts was poor and didn't get awards, why can't they just be happy now? Will they still whine and act like underdogs in 10 years?https://twitter.com/Mayakosmos/status/1214456346927599617>He already left WTF is he so stuck on the past? Fcking rude,what if a bts member had said this on tv about exo? Exols were crying arrogance over bts not name dropping anyone but we have weird ass looking Tao talkn sht. The sooner everyone understands BTS is above level, the better.
Nearly 4000 people calling somebody "weird ass looking" while stanning Jimincel, Rat, Jhope and Bjlips lol
>Fuck that old creep ohmes and his ratmy cocksucking though.
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>>71477>>You can't just walk up to any asian man and ask if he's a bts member. I think Tao is an irrelevant loser (he had no real success after he left) but I totally get his reaction.https://twitter.com/tianhuaddi/status/1214407355636408321
If you understand Chinese and see the full video it's worse. Tao is gross.
He tells his manager to go approach the 3 girls to ask if they want a photo since they are looking his way, his manager asks and it's SO awkward since they don't know who Tao is at all and ask if he is BTS, then Tao gets super offended because of his massive ego.
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, my bad I guess. I just hate it when anybody gives rats a reason to act up, they won't shut up about this incident for years.
But this also means that those girls weren't racist at all. They probably just thought that asking if he's bts was better than straight up telling that they don't know him.
It seems like knets are more mad about the fact that he's still calling himself an exo member.https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/01/theqoo-tao-who-burst-out-laughing-after.html?m=1>You sure liked it when you were living off Korea>Why is he like that?;; meanwhile, why is he bringing up EXO? He left the group by himself>Crazy bast*rd, he spent more time outside of EXO than in EXO during their promotion time
Btw does anybody know what exo said about bts (pic)?
I hate both ratmys and exo-crazies but I remember seeing that clip and thinking wtf did he just get offended by a literal child?
She didn't even mean it in a mean way she just politely said she prefers bts and then his face all changed.
As a grown man he could've stopped himself from acting so petty and just be nice to the girl.
Maybe I'm just sensitive but I cringed and I couldn't see it as a cute banter.
Suho seems like he's got a stick up his ass 24/7, always taking everything way too seriously and fake smiling, even the other members say that he's just not funny at all. And as a result he's also the least popular kek
In general, all idols from wealthy families always act weird af
they filed it. its not been approved. At the moment, they got nothing.>>71484
best milk, topkek. well done for posting anon>>71439
i second this!!
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Irene's looking real rough(nitpick)
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eh i think it’s mostly the lighting, it washes her out. i know koreans love fair skin but bad lighting is bad lighting even if it makes you look whiter than spiderus. but we already know that irene is an older idol so it doesn’t surprise me if she has wrinkles and looks disheveled after years of restrictive eating and sleepless nights
The mods really using red text for this pick over the dozens of way more severe nitpicks? Come on.
Irene actually looks tired and gaunt. She should just do CFs full-time and fucking retire quietly. She's approaching her thirties and the idol life cannot be good for her well-being.
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he only got attention in exo cuz of his resting bitch face and the 3 or 4 times SM made him do Wushu.
Tao is the poster child for the one thing most people in this thread hate: rich kids who only become idols to fuel their ego. Why he thought some randos who are bts fans would even remember that exo ever had chinese members, let alone who they were, once upon a time is beyond me.
sure, the girls were stupid for thinking he's in bts, but he's still the bigger idiot here.>>71519
about time honestly
(pic related) you really do find kpop stans in the worst of places (it's the sims 4 gallery)
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Did snsd have more female fans than Twice across Japan and Korea since the beginning? I've always felt like Twice never had that many female fans to begin with.
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Here's a gif version lol
This is so weird….almost feel bad for jimin lol. >>71575
He's pretty relevant in China afaik. They all go back to China where they're treated like A-list celebrities for some reason and then they all become millionaires.
Must be nice to achieve that all without being able sing or even rap.
Same happened to the other Chinese members.
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is anyone tired of bts trending all the dam time ??? when ever they do something, they really always flood everything???? even if i have the words muted and blocked ratmies always find a way to slip in like the cockroaches they are. god spare my sanity PLEASE
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why is he so grotesque looking kek(nitpick)
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>However, what Jihyo said in the chatroom, with the words “attention-seeker” or “웅앵웅” (considered to be offensive to men), is the last straw that damaged not only her image but also TWICE’s reputation as well.
>And finally, what many people worried about has come true! In the past few days, on big Korea fansites as well as in TWICE’s galleries, many Korean fans have announced that they will leave the fandom after the serious scandal of Jihyo. Many fans even posted evidence that they supported TWICE in a variety of ways, from streaming music to buying goods and participating in official fanclub. Some have been fans since the group debuted but eventually decided to leave the fandom after this incident.
Must suck when majority of your fans are ilbe incels.
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it looks even worth in their new comeback video
Let it go, dude. How many times do we have to read about this? Twice unclefans are a salty bunch and will propably crawl back as soon as Sana does some bait again. Jihyo was never a popular member anyways.>>71596
Yes, what will now go on for weeks until this album is released and god knows how many weeks after, befor Ratmys are crazy and have nothing to do…
“웅앵웅” means "blahblahblah"/ mumbling around
Incels are mad because a general / neutral phrase like that is said often by Korean radfems and thus they call Jihyo a feminist/ man-hater whatever when Jihyo was saying it to haters lurking on her Vlive because they where harassing other members the day prior.
I'm not surprised context and nuance is lost on those kind of people.
honestly thats not exclusive to just bts, its all kpop stans
if you go on twitter and click literally ANY trending topic, even regardless of where its trending, the posts are flooded with kpop fans posting fancams of idols and using trending hashtags despite it not being related at all to the post
its embarrassing and pathetic and i genuinely think people who say the majority of kpop fans re retarded or at least stunted mentally are absolutely correct
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His fans are still trying to say he's innocent… it's some of the first stuff that comes up when you search Seungri on Twitter. Pathetic. I hope he rots
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Fans are really in state of mental illness. How can you defend a man like that?
This is honestly triggering
to me. Kpop stans will cancel a member of Twice because they consider her a feminist, but a man can be as vulgar as possible, even be involved in sexual assaults, but that's okay??
This is what happens when your fanbase is composed of uncle fans and neckbeards.>>71652
Completely different fanbases. Angry Twice fans are incels
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Anon, it's not koreans who defend seungri, it's ifans (ot5 comments get hundreds of upvotes on allkpop). The korean public has cancelled him ages ago but their law system sucks and that's why he's not in jail yet.
And I know that some will say this is racist but it's always mainly sea fans who still stick up for abusive
trash. I'm sure that in a while seungri will start having fanmeets there, then maybe go to japan and then slowly try and crawl back to korea.
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Iirc weren't j-vip's supporting seungri when he was first exposed too?
I doubt any fans there find a problem with what he did so unfortunately he'll be able to continue his career in japan as soon as he can
not sure what i was expecting when i clicked but it wasn't this omg… literally sounds like a meme or a joke song. maybe that's what they wanted so it goes viral.>>71683
idk why people don't talk about it but suga (rm too) is the most blatantly thirsty for western attention i.e. his insistence that they will get a grammy. i get that recognition on that level is something all artists dream of but… he is part of a kpop group that is an especially insidious case of taking advantage of teenagers both financially and int terms of their vulnerability. not only that but he and the other rappers barely participate in the actual creation process of the music and the other four barely seem musically inclined so how is it that he's an "idol reborn as an artist"?
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OK this has real potential to blow up the Kpop industry. Samsung Galaxy users had their Katalks hacked and messages of actors in affairs were leaked and in the coming weeks there could be more milky exposes.
An idol got their milky Katalk hacked: On January 8, Dispatch reported that at least 10 celebrities have been hacked including Joo Jin Mo, two other actors, an idol, a director, and a famous chef. Dispatch stated, “A hacker who refers to him or herself as ‘Black Hacker’ hacked the cell phones of famous figures including celebrities through their cloud storage, stole their personal text messages, photos, and videos, and is threatening them by asking for money from 50 million won (approximately $42,600) up to more than 1 billion won (approximately $852,000).” Joo Jin Mo was threatened with text messages, while another actor was threatened with photos and texts. The idol and chef were threatened with photos, videos, and texts. When Joo Jin Mo did not pay, the hacker emailed text messages he exchanged with another actor to hundreds of media outlets. The idol is reported to have paid the hacker after being blackmailed.
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Dr. Phil is currently under some hot water for some comments he made regarding BTS's Jimin.
The popular TV personality invited obsessed fan Oli London on his show to discuss his obsession with looking like BTS's Jimin. A trailer for the episode was released earlier today. However, instead of concentrating on Oli London, many fans are focused on Dr. Phil after he made a few negative comments regarding Jimin. Dr. Phil stated, "And you have to know that the somebody else you're wanting to be is not really who that person appears to be. That’s a manufactured, marketed image."
>>71693>>71694>Samsung Galaxy users
so literally almost all of Korea LMAO can't wait for the milk to flow. >>71700
I want Dr. Phil to do a series just shitting on Kpop for views. You can't 'cancel' him kpoopies.
based dr phil>>71693>>71694
this reminds me of a comment that rich chinese girl made in the now deleted thread.
there is an actor who is considered a loner (i forgot name). reason is, he is not a sleazebag like most other actors and tells/warns others (tells newbies which actors are cheater and sleazebags).
All the eye contact with the camera puts me off for some reason, makes him seem arrogant maybe? Isnt his style usually more detached.
The thing with the crowds of cell phones is way too on the nose. Even blackpink's jisoo scene, where the phones are guns, showed a bit more thought went into it, that was really on the nose too but the way sugar's doing it here, it's like screaming "guys it's because im famous and people are always photographing me, get it? DO YOU GET IT?" like yeah man, calm down we know.>>71580
Did anyone scroll to the comments. "The fandom name is Leaf" seriously are we in a truman show type situation? At this point kpop is trolling US not the other way around. Are we really supposed to believe these ent companies don't have a single fluent (if not fully native!) English speaker who can advise on stuff like this?
who tf uses Samsung?>>71700
They are crazy, he just stated an obvious known fact. That's not even a criticism of Jimin
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I'm pleasantly surprised by the comments on allkpop, for once they react in a sane way…
Ratmys themselves always say that jin was told to act mature and that jhope is actually a serious/sad guy who is only acting happy and hyper for them - that is the definition of manufactured, you fools! He wasn't even calling jimincel plastic, he only said that the personality oli fell in love with is likely not his real one.
In general I find it disgusting how they talk about him (pic). He's extremely mentally ill and the kpop industry and the idols playing the part are absolutely at fault. Everybody always acts shocked when some fans get too obsessed, but that's exactly what companies and groups want them to be in order to make massive cash. If bts were normal singers who didn't completely brainwash millions of losers, when this guy would've never destroyed his body like that - and that's the only "crime" he commited, he hurt himself, so don't act as if jimin is suffering because of him.
Farmers, this is it. Get your popcorn, twitter will be serving all weekend, I can barely contain my excitement
But did anyone hear the theory that this guy isn't actually obsessed with jimin or bts, he's just doing this for free plastic surgery and publicity? If you think of it like that he's actually pretty smart? It's not enough to merely insert yourself into the BTS world like celebs who have been attacked by fans for pretending to be into BTS for clout or whatever. This guy took it to such an extreme people are forced to pay attention
Pretty sure dr phil is 100% scripted too, all paid actors right?
well samsung is a korean company so i imagine a lot of people in korea>>71708
how is saying a kpop idol is manufactured a "drag"
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>>71717>>he's just doing this for free plastic surgery
But Oli London looks like shit after all that PS. The clinics he visited needs to be boycotted, 1) He looks nothing like Jimin and more like Taemin 2) He's botched as fuck and his crepey skin texture makes him look 40 years oldhttps://www.issuewire.com/oli-london-announced-as-ambassador-for-view-plastic-surgery-medictel-korea-1639127399930607
Tons of idols have bad ps too, and keep getting ps even once firmly in the uncanny valley. Is it a psychological thing, where since you see your own self in the mirror every day you get used to it so you have no perspective anymore? Or maybe people with bad ps have no idea it's bad? And with idols specifically is it also the fact they're surrounded by people with ps so again, they lose that perspective. Plus SK is so into ps, to the point of being a status symbol, so maybe bad ps is considered better than no ps? Idk, some psych major please clarify what I'm trying to say, heh, I'm circling it but don't have the English vocabulary to say properly.>>71682>>71681
Tbh I've never actually used twitter myself I just read tweets that get linked on articles or whatever. And i thought people did use hashtags. I wonder about the algorithm thing because I imagine armys can just make up new, unpredictable ones to outsmart it?
all fandoms use hashtags, its not exclusive to armys whatsoever. every birthday, every comeback, every scandal, every demand for apology… everyone does it.
and they do get around the algorithm by trending whatever they want, i was just saying that the word "bts" itself would likely be trending multiple days a week due to the sheer amount of armys being active on twitter at any given moment, and thats what the algorithm prevents. twitter doesnt care about army or bts related tags trending, they care that a three letter word offsets their trending lists, statistics and suggested searches and thats what the algorithm is supposed to make up for
1) self esteem issues with can result in 2) body dysmorphia and 3) getting more and more ps can be a result of bad ps planning.
you want bigger lips, got em…but oh wuups, now they make my nose look big, ill go get my nose fixed. damn, now my cheekbones look weird etc.
getting ps isnt simple. if you i.e. get rhinoplasty for higher bridge you should be aware of how it ll effect the rest of the face + what the weight of the fillers on the bones can cause and over time the tissue will expand. if you get a reduction of bridge -what will happen with rest of now excess skin. if people dont consider that, they might get fine lines under their eyes and crows feet way earlier than they would have naturally.
and yeah, with idols being surrounded by others that look the same it must seem normal to them. but then you get people who have met/seen them irl and the comments (like a few threads back #42) are 'is even more plastic irl' etc.
a lot can be done with lighting, makeup and regular dermatologist visits without needing anything invasive such as fillers. >>71729
kek, are any idols ambassadors of this clinic?
Yeah general immaturity and cluelessness is always expected in this thread but this comment was a new low
Samsung is one of Korea's most well known tech exports and plenty of Americans use it…next let's argue about how many drive a Hyundai>>71728
Ok thanks, pls read the comment i was citing, someone said no one uses hash tags anymore and I'm pretty sure they do even though I don't use twitter myself
ok, so he is a pedo.
(yes i know 16 year old doesnt make him necessarily by definition a pedo, shut up)
guys with self esteem issues want young girls as they are easily manipulated, are less likely to stand up for themselves and generally less likely to hurt their little fragile egos.
afaik kinda still common in asia. being in the entertainment industry on top of that….well. i honestly doubt the majority of idols are what would be considered emotionally healthyish individuals. I kinda bet majority will be like that. Just look at Heechul. Wasnt the sexual harassment issue with that Shinwha guy with a girl(/girls) like a decade or more younger? Bet he was surprised that things are changing and slowly women, even when 20s will stand up for themselves and not take crap.
So i guess safest for guys like that is barely legal…or not even legal at all. kek.
would be topmilk to know which idol has been dating whom. could easily be deducted from that which guys are the creeps.
good milk, thanks anon!
i generally dont get the comments about how young someone looks. 40 year olds dont look like 28 year olds. the skin changes and its visible.
i think he looks late 30s, cheeks clearly are drooping. doesnt look like basset hound but he looks his age. sure, skin has been taken care of and maintained but still looks his age.
a lot of articles are there for hype. they are written to create hype. it works on people. want to push your employees? get newsoutlets to write about fake positive audience reactions towards them. just dont tell the gp that the reactions are fake. on top of that you get all those filters and lighting (and makeup) which make him look (imo) plasticy (even if maybe he isnt).
>especially next to momo
second this. their age difference is obvious. he looks like the uncle. (wouldnt be the case if they both were 10-15 years older)
but then i bet heechul would be trying to date whichever new hyped idol turned 17/18. >>71759
he stopped years ago cause of rising health issues (supposedly).
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I found these essays/articles to be pretty enlightening as to why people might want plastic surgery (not kpop-centric, but I still think it's pertinent):
Instagram face - https://www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-of-instagram-face
Incels wanting to become Chads - ihttps://www.thecut.com/2019/05/incel-plastic-surgery.html
Uploaded image is a reply I found on reddit about how plastic surgery when you're too young will fuck you up (2nd paragraph). Knowing all the idols that have had surgery in their early 20s and how poorly they're going to age makes my skin crawl. Also, side-note: sleeping with your eyes open is a well-known side effect from getting eye surgery, which aways makes me think that the idols who are known to sleep eyes open (usually shared to show that they're ~*so quirky*~) probably (definitely) have had their eyes done.
It's really hopeless with men. I'm always so stupid and think that these renowned actors who have clean images are reasonable men who appreciate intelligent women and shit but they always end up lusting after a 20-something year old (and often dumb-ish) idols like suzy.
I'm convinced now that if they marry older women with respectable jobs, that it's just to be a guaranteed a good image, while shit like this happens in secret.
Apparently cheating is rampant there so I'm not surprised but I really like jung woo sung so it's really disappointing.
I also hope they catch the hacker and the idol,one gets released too. He could be a second seungri and we would never know…
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I wish stylists would make dawn look normal (like on idol school) and not on the cusp of Death 24/7. His face always bothered me and I wondered why he had weird fans; he looks like a fairly average korean guy with this makeup…
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lmao comments like these, it's almost like their message is mostly empty platitudes. If they were serious about it the members would also actually be proactive and love themselves instead of always saying shit like >>70865
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Hwasa really out there making cutesy vids with JJY buddy huh you in danger
I wouldn't say he's uncancelled, but he's been more lowkey. chanyeol got some shit, but a lot of his fans also defended him that zico was "never proven guilty" and that "chanyeol would never support him if he's bad" as if those are valid
plenty of knetz call seolhyun curvy for having a skinny pear shape body so maybe that's what he meant kek. most of these male idols wouldn't date hwasa anyways cause she's ugly for korean standards. And she's kind of stupid for hanging out with zico's clique. once one of them gets exposed, she's gonna be dragged down with them whether she did do illegal things or not. >>71818
such a shame that she settled for less than her worth. he's probably going to be living off of her once his fame fades
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this boy owns his fame to red eyeshadow and blush that make him look ~sick and a bad bleach job
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Wtf is this photo? Her face and hand pose makes her look so derp.
Actually it just crossed my mind as well since the boy had thousands of $$$ for an Ironman cosplay…
But it's kinda serious assumption.>>71824
highly likely since if he were exposed, exo would be done for plus he has the money to pay the blackmail… i'm not familiar with zico's crew so who else do you guys think it could be? >>71825
i hope that's not for a magazine shoot. she looks retarded and is trying too hard to be sensual. also peep the buck teeth veneers lol
Has to be an older generation idol like Yunho, Changmin, Junsu or Choi Siwon. Having 1 million USD to pay immediately without approaching their agency means they prob came from wealth or are top 1st/2nd gen idols.
Doubt it's BTS, EXO or any current gen idol because it was around 2013 and those idols were noobs who had managers monitoring them 24/7 down to diet and dance practice, in 2013 Chanyeol Suho etc simply wouldn't have the time to be fuckbois without arousing suspicions of EXO sasaengs, Dispatch or their manager. Usually male idols go haywire after their group goes on hiatus due to army, managers/sasaengs/paparazzi stops following 24/7 and they have tons of time and money to fuck around with hoes on the sly, see Yoochun, Se7en, TOP, Seungri, Kangta, Nam Tae Hyun, Kang Sung Hoon, Kim Hyun Joong etc.
BTS EXO Got7 etc will have these scandals once they go on full hiatus and members like Junglebook have too much time and too little resistance to the myriad of girls who wanna jump into their bed.
Here is a rough translation of few important points out of Joo JinMo & Jang DongGun's conversation -
Basically they were sharing pictures of "hot girls" and the numbers, date and time to meet (numbers alluding to the girls' status as room salon girls), gross remarks on girls' body (use words like "this one's body is A+", "I can't wait to go 2 rounds today"), debate if the girls are from Japan or Korea, JDG has a clear preference for celebrity trainees because he asked "is she a trainee too?"
Funniest thing is one of the chat from JDG stated that he is scared of going to a party, though it's full of hot girls and he's the only guy there, because Seo In Young is there. Seo In Young is close to his wife so he got some guts to even try his luck with her around.
And in few chats, they also mentioned Jung WooSung and Lee JungJae (something like they basically live and "have fun" in a bar known to provide special services).
1st pic - discussing and sharing pic of a girl just returned from USA. JJM is going to have a home party and managed to get this girl to come for the party. Here he used words like "oh she wants to become a celeb TOO?" So Knet was shocked and there were comments suggesting couch casting since both are very influential.
Pic 2 - JDG admitted to knowing the girl in pic and recalled she has no manners. JJM first teased him on how did he met a 21yo and then replied that manners don't matter when "you got them into bed".
And the worst is JDG's wife was pregnant with the first kid in 2013 when these messages are sent. At the very least, JJM is still single when he did all that hook ups and prostitution.
Knetz think JDG's company and SM have some strong influence and manipulated the search engine. Instead of him being pushed to the chopping board, JJM is on the front page and his wife Dr Min's name is on Naver's top search for the whole day.
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same issue at allkpop.
where is allkpop registered?
Fucking hell, WHY
Hwasa of all people, ugh
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god what's wrong with this guy. it's one thing to be ugly but another to be a complete dick
He said it in knowing bros
The purpose of knowing bros is to roast
Nta but I watched half of it.
It's like a documentary or something and they're following this dude around, and he …just comments on how weird this dude is. Nothing interesting so far (as with all pewdiepie content) and I don't think he badmouthed bts or anything, he even said said that Jimin is "not a bad pick" at least.
He's really careful not to anger kpop fans lol.
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It can also be Lisa’s father?
if it's her dad, blackpink is over in korea/japan rip >>71875
thought he only 'liked kpop' for the lols and to attract stans to watch his videos
It's a chef working in South Korea so it's not lisa's dad>>71870
This is something that happened last october. Idk how it got leaked/trending all of a sudden but apparently making assumptions about the perpetrator is banned from korean platforms.http://www.kookje.co.kr/mobile/view.asp?gbn=v&code=0300&key=20190111.99099004383
P1>The father and owner chef of a female idol singer was accused of sexually assaulting a restaurant employee. Some mention Jung-yeon's father, a member of the famous idol group 'Twiss' as an accused chef, but the fact is not confirmed. However, dissemination of such indiscreet speculation may result in legal penalties, so be careful.
please dont misuse the word hateboner like that.
correct usage would apply to posts such as: >>71782>makes me really anxious,… cant see this shit being sustainable for much longer
anon is clearly way too much involved in kpop
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does anybody else think that jimin (aoa) is really weird looking?(nitpick)
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what hate boner??? the first comment you quoted wasn't even me>>71911
why is it always the members with the flattest asses that do dances like that lmao
Kek, you guys could have just watched the video >>71869
He says "I admit, I was bitten by the kpop-bug for a while too" hinting at not being into to atm.
He also calls kpop manufactured, says all kpop stars have had plastic surgery and that BTS stans are insane.
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Anyone know what this is about?https://twitter.com/jinoreacts/status/1216177217761423360
I know that Jino has spilled tea in previous vids (was on SM and their use of sasaengs related to BTS).
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maybe it has something to do with this? idk who the guy is but it seems like his internet activity comes down to criticizing kpop acts and producing music
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The only group he rly supports is bts honestly
i hope he posts that vid his twitter referred to.
yeah, he seems to mainly support bts. he has made plenty other vids giving props to other groups though.
>>71926>>71928>is a ratmy>wants 'delusional people' to wake up>says sm uses sasaeng against his precious hyungs>no one but bts is ready for international success>talks about others looking plastic while jhope, jimincel and co. exist
Lol why would you believe anything a blatant stan claims to know about his fav's enemy?
In kpop it's safe to say that if it applies to one group, then it applies to all other groups as well. There is no good agency, no group in which all members are talented, 'natural', body positive/woke and best friends with each other. No matter how much they claim to not be like the other groups, bts is exactly the same (but a billion times more overrated).
for entertainment/milk. just ignore the fangirling part.
>sm uses sasaengs
yeah, he isnt the only one that has said that. sm have a rep, bit like yg people partying the hardest.
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It's not milk if some btsfag makes up shit to proof that everybody is inferior to bts…
This is what people comment:>Just found that video & I gotta say I agree with evrthing you said and I get your frustration. I also get very annoyed when these cringy Kpop groups come to the US. They need to step up their game to follow BTS here otherwise these groups will kill Kpop’s chance in the US
Totally not just fandom talk… Bts good, others pretentious and cringy.
And when somebody replied to 'take note kpoppies' by saying that bts are kpop too, they come up with this>Ooohh, racist. Saying everyone who sings in Korean, is kpop. If they're backed by a Korean company, kpop. Gatekeeping too. We aren't taking away their nationality - they just aren't kpop. Never have been, never were>>71934
Seventeen and nuest might be unknown in the west but in korea they're like number 3 and 4 (if bts is 1 and exo 2) in terms of popularity, so bighit really achieved complete monopoly status with this. I called it during those year end award shows, it was always big 3 and some smaller agencies, now everything is solely bighit, no more competition at all.
Yg destroyed themselves but I wouldn't be surprised if bighit had a hand in all of those twice scandals that keep happening lately. They're obviously very buddy buddy with dispatch (who constantly does shoots with bts instead of exposing their dirt like they do with other idols). Nct and itzy aren't popular enough, after exo, red velvet, twice and got7 retire jyp and sm will go down too.
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Had a laugh at this
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I correct myself: seventeen sold the 2nd most after bts, bighit literally bought their biggest rival. That's some cartel-tier shit.
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i just found this photo of lisa online, and i dont know why people find rose ugly when lisa looks completely plastic and weird. Pretty sure she is taking a lot of fillers.
i dont know how this chick even fooling people her face is legit when on google images every single photo of her face is not even the same
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I hope this doesn't count as nitpicking since I'm quoting an actual newshttps://www.koreaboo.com/news/aoa-jimin-body-shamed-netizens-swimsuit-photo/
A group of netizens began to body shame her, claiming she had the body of an “elementary school kid“. The comments shot up to the “Most Liked Comments” section as other malicious haters jumped on to attack Jimin.
“Maybe it’s cause she’s a skeleton but I feel nothing from looking at her… Her body’s hard to look at that it’s not even worth getting judged”
“I hate her whiny voice when she raps. Her body’s like a 3rd grader’s too”
“How can a female idol look so unsexy in a swimsuit photo? She’s not cute and she’s not pretty”
“Is she really a celebrity?… She has no curves at all…”
“What is this elementary school kid doing with her kid’s swimsuit”
she looked much better in her predebut pictures. should've just stopped at the nose job >>71940
there's so many idols that have the same body shape as her that get praised. what's with this change of heart??
Netizens aren't consistent and will change from shitting on a group to pretending that they loved them at the drop of a hat. BTS became laughingstock in the eyes of the Korean public to being the nation's darlings after gaining Western clout. Same with SNSD when they became more popular after their first couple of comebacks.
Taeyeon and IU have a similar body type of Jimin and would get praised for being thin.
lolwut. How does that make him a rapist? That's gross as fuck but nowhere near as serious as >>71948
Considering sales, nu'est is behind got7 and stray kids
I think you're being a little catastrophic. SM has been around since the dawn of kpop and they pratically invented the genre formula. Maybe they'll struggle a bit to adapt themselves to the 4th gen but ultimately they'll be ok. Same for JYP. Another thing is that Nu'Est has to enlist around the same time as bts since their youngest was born in 95.>>71942
Mte they're know pretending they don't dig the prepubescent anorexic body type kek
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korean people call her samuel l. jackson kek
It's not what you say or do but who you are…iu, taeyeon & co are pretty universally popular and loved, aoa jimin is not. Even if she looked identical to taeyeon and sang just like her she'd still be criticized…it's not always logical. Totally applies to post >>71939
too, Lisa is praised just for breathing bc she's popular and likable not because she's actually that beautiful. It's her vibe, clout, persona, all the nonphysical things that make up k idol popularity. Rose is pretty and has good style but insecure and can't carry that image so she gets shit on by netizens despite not really doing anything wrong (afaik? I don't follow bp)>>71941
Cmiiw but gfriend haven't been cute since their first few title tracks and even those were more innocent high school concept, not snsd "kissing you" with lollipops or shouting "oppa oppa" or whatever? But twice are maturing their concept too so i could see BH keeping gf around as like the senior gg with more mature image while they cook up a revamped twice 2.0 type project?
I'm kinda over all these 4- and 5-member girl crush type groups, i hope someone tries to come up with something fresh soon. Itzy isn't groundbreaking but i sure wondered why no one had done that before, it seems so obvious when I think of all those Disney channel teen girl singers I grew up with in the early 2000s like Hilary duff, Lindsay lohan etc.
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Seriously don't know how blinks and YG can say that Lisa has never had plastic surgery or used fillers when she looks completely different from her predebut photos. She has a cute eye shape tho.
She's always given me a goblin-y vibe similar to that of Ying Tze (that Malay streamer). Like their jaw/chin size and the distance between their eyes are out of whack compared to the rest of their face. >>71965
Rosé gets played up as the underdog of the group so people cheer her on as the "ignored but super talented" one.
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well I doubt exo is going to be doing much anytime soon(if that wasn't already obvious). hopefully fans don't try and kick him out like that guy from super junior
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He might've implied that they have a baby on the way too
im really surprised at the amount of out of wedlock babies idols are having the last few years
will be interesting to see how people react
uh…we're talking about korea, a country that tries to pretend people dont have sex outside of marriage, and the entire idol industry literally revolves around idols being "untouched" and "available" for fans
way to misinterpret what i was implying
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well if it's the same girl he was allegedly dating before it seems like they've been together since at least 2015 but it could be someone entirely new. her getting pregnant makes it sound more like a "oops well now we have to get married" but good luck to them.
we're talking about idols, who can barely even date without fans sending them death threats and leaking private information because their feefees get hurt
lgbt acceptance is rising too but its still not going to be a non scandalous issue if idols start doing it in mass
Chen is Exo's Jihyo, but even a hundred times less popular, so most don't give af what he does.
Telling him to leave, like fans did with certain members of other groups wouldn't make sense, simply because they need him for his voice.
I also thought that him being in a relationship was kind of an open secret? Was this leaked first and he reacted by admitting it via this letter, or did he himself just say this out of nowhere?
Never gonna happen, but I'd really like the other members to come clean as well about whether they're dating or not. They're so rich and already nearing their 30s, who cares anymore.
I always wonder how somebody like him or Changmin get to know and date non-celebrity women, like how can you know that they won't just use you for your money? It's probably right to assume that dating between idols and staff can happen and that's why bighit has mostly males employed.
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Right, especially since dating non-celebrities almost never ends well for women (ex: Goo Hara)>>71988
I like DO's vocal tone better but I do think Chen is the best singer in terms of technical ability - though ultimately vocal talent is pretty unimportant in Kpop>>71965>maturing their concept
Everyone is saying this and I don't understand why. Their songs are still as cutesy as ever, they just changed clothes from tennis skirts to LBDs.
Jihyo is the least popular in Twice and Chen is by far the least popular in Exo, so nobody cares that they're no longer single. What's so difficult to understand about this?
And if not him, who else is supposed to be the best vocalist in Exo? Baekhyun and Do are good too but he's still slightly above. >>71989>>71991
The only way I can see it work is if you're childhood friends and know each other since before you turned successful. Or if the partner is wealthy too.
Jealous kboo spotted. I'm not Angelina Danilova level but an average white girl trying to explain the presence of white people in korean popular culture. It's true that white people are treated well here.>>72009
Again, the last paragraph is meant to explain why white people are in kpop and shows. Plus a lot of people here are probably interested in visiting Korea. Forgive me for not posting a video of BTS to add to the thirty we have here already.
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White anon in Korea again, I literally couldn't believe my eyes that auntie himself landed himself a solo sponsor deal. The rest of the members were probably booked.
Spoiler because he is terrifying.
Lmaoooo you are truly so bitter. God forbid I lie to myself about how I look and also downplay the importance of looks here. They like good looking westerners, you don't have to be Angelina Danilova level at all to get attention here, just decently pretty, being pale helps.
Why say that they like visibly ugly white people when they don't? Korean society is obv fatphobic anyways, you all should know that by now if you're a kboo.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
What kind of larpy kboo bullshit is this? You almost barely had me in the first half up until the last paragraph. People are asking you a nobody to be on a major tv network? Does that sound legit to you? How much you wanna bet that was asexual trafficking scam or sumn?
My only question is what was the point of that post? Most of that stuff is common knowledge. We already know bts is huge in Korea and that koreans dgaf about k-pop.
Lmao tf is this. Honestly no one cares in SK if you're white. When I went last year we just got the occasional old man asking about Theresa May LMAO.
I will say that Momolands Boom Boom was literally everywhere tho.
https://www.knetizen.com/exos-chen-announces-his-marriage-through-a-handwritten-letter/>[+2089, -149] Although I’m a fan of another group, I feel weird looking at the article. But if he were my singer, I would have collapsed>[+743, -9] That blessing means she’s pregnant, right?>[+536, -9] The fans are in shock.>[+448, -12] She’s pregnant so he gets married>[+365, -110] But I think Chen is really cool. There are many celebrities who are trash these days. Chen’s protecting his wife and child at the risk of being criticized. It’s so cool to be responsible.>[+182, -14] I’m not a fan of EXO, but his responsible appearance seems to be something to be congratulated on.
Exofags claim that ratmys are posing as them and talk shit about him to make them look bad. I can definitely imagine ifans doing that, but what about koreans, is that a thing there too?
Feels like the opinions are divided, some are saying he's shit and that his fans have a right to feel betrayed while others say that he should be allowed to do whatever he wants and that fans are only jealous bitches. >>72029>gongdeokdong
Knowing whatever that is totally doesn't make you seem like as much of a kboo as the kboo you're responding to lol
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It’s a bot but hiding/posing as ratmy or its actual ratmy just hiding behind a bot lol
Well nobody really cares about Chen. So he can continue as before without much changing. I don’t really think they need saesangs to support them to survive anyways.
I am also ready to see him everywhere in twitter for a while.
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>>71969>Well nobody really cares about Chen. So he can continue as before without much changing.
nah lots of ppl want him to leave exo and think him promoting with them is “unfair”
Probably. And fans know that these relationships don't last long but marriage means..that's it.
But I've noticed that fans just hate these less popular members just for the sake of it. They just seem to be looking for something to get angry about, or maybe they think the future of exo will be in danger or something bs like that.
Finally nb translated korean commentshttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/01/exos-chen-announces-that-his-girlfriend.html
Most are from non-fans saying they('d) understand fans going crazy but many also congratulate him and say that at least he takes responsibility.>[+678, -36] The sad thing about the timing is that he has to enlist soon so the woman is basically going to have to raise the kid herself for a while>[+1,186, -17] Didn't he claim to be shocked at watching DO's kiss scene… Jongdae-ya, you're more shocking>[+844, -28] I'm sorry but taking responsibility for a life you created is a definite thing, not something deserving of praise>[+772, -87] I knew he had a girlfriend and it's fine that he wants to marry her but as a fan, I don't understand why you'd commit pre-marital pregnancy. Let me just laugh>[+576, -57] As a fan of 7 years, I'm just shocked. I don't know about leaving the fandom yet or whatever but… what about the other members?..>[+9,489, -200] He's "cool" for taking responsibility? Taking responsibility is not something cool, it's something definite! Anyway, I am surprised but congratulations.>[+7,521, -517] Sure, that's great and all, but why would you not use protection knowing that you haven't even served in the army yet? What is this, Jongdae-ya… I'm actually worried for the woman right now. Imagine her situation… she's pregnant before getting married, her partner's an idol, he hasn't served yet, he has a ton of young fans… If he had any respect for his girlfriend at all, he wouldn't have planned to marry her in this manner. I'm glad he's taking responsibility but I hope that he's able to protect her and lead a happy life.>[+1,922, -141] I support your happiness. Congratulations on your marriage as Kim Jongdae, the person you are before you are an EXO member.>[+435, -9] Someone want to help my dongsaeng out…? She's a crying mess right now>[+531, -113] I've supported and believed in him for the past 6 years but I cannot congratulate him on a pre-marital pregnancy. He will now be putting his team at risk by choosing to raise a baby and pursue his career at the same time.>[+78, -7] No wonder he was sobbing at their concert and asking fans if they were going to stay with him forever, I was wondering what was going on it was because he was going to come out with this>[+38, -0] Fans are claiming that he was honest with them but he announced it at the 7 month mark of her pregnancy>[+1,035, -195] I'm shocked but… I support you!!!>[+154, -5] I'd be pissed if I got a Chen card in their album… how can you fangirl over a baby daddy? It'd be so weird fangirling over someone else's husband>[+149, -2] You guys pour your money into him so that he can use that money to buy a home and get married in and then you leave the fandom what a comedy>[+119, -11] I couldn't fangirl for him imagine him using my money to raise his baby with, no thanks>[+118, -16] Just leave EXO. Don't turn this group into a 'married man' group and just quietly leave. DO and Baekhyun can cover the singing, it's not like you have any big position that you cover. I'm not a personal fan of Chen so I don't care if he gets married or has a baby but it really makes me angry that he's affecting the group like this. I'm sure he didn't plan for this but how could he not be careful? He should've been more careful if he was considerate of the other members at all. Kai's dating scandal was practically aegyo compared to this.>>72048
Exactly, with Kai they hoped/knew that it wouldn't last.
wow…. I know getting married or anything serious before the man has served in the army is badly seen but damn.
I also don't understand how any of this will be "putting EXO at risk" ?? It's like they don't even get that it's the fans' actions that will affect exo and not Chen himself. If nobody cared about him getting married or having a baby then nothing will change for exo as a group.
They said they thought about leaving SM together and continuing as a group (because they might not make it on their own?)
Korean twitter trends right now
1. Shotgun marriage
2. No condom no sex
3. (The baby's) 7 months
4. Our Jongdae
5. Very shocked
7. Fans mental
8. Vasectomy kek
10. Marriage announcement
13. Cheering for Jongdae
18. Pregnancy wedding
19. Handwritten letter
Some are even worse, like "just leave" lol
At first it sounded good for him, but even ifans are pissed that he kept it hidden for 7 months and now obviously only gets married because of that.
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That was fast.
I'd say Baekhyun/Chanyeol>Sehun>Do>Xiumin>Kai>>>>>Suho/Chen but of course there's no way to say for sure.>>72063
Lmao it's getting better and better. I think he'll be forced to leave within the next couple days.
lol throwback to when exo talked about marriage or something with jyp and the whole female audience went crazy and screamed "nooo", and then the terrified look in exo's faces.
Kpop actively enables this behavior and every time something like that happens the comments all say how you shouldn't waste your money on them but we all know desperate, insecure teens won't stop…seriously, what do they think? that these grown ass men and women stay single for the rest of their lives just because they need to sell an illusion to their lonely fans?
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this is from a few years ago (2016), ranking their popularity based off of magazine sales. i’m sure it’s changed a bit with scandals and enlistment. but some of the comments claimed that they didn’t buy their biases cover because they were sold out at their local store or because they thought another member looked better
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they could've aborted or he could've left her. I feel like quiet a few male idols got a girl pregnant and pay child support so they stay quiet>>72078
probably a few sasaeng fan sites say they broke up
the females abort rather than keep it a secret
as for the males it could very well happen if they engage in a ton of prostitution/groupie fucking
SM denied that he married today, but not that she's already in her 7th monthhttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/01/sm-denies-rumors-that-chens-wedding-was.html?m=1>[+27, -4] EXO has seriously been on the decline after their hit with 'Growl' ㅋㅋㅋ they were on the top for a quick flash until Baekhyun came out with his dating scandal with Taeyeon, the Chinese members kept leaving, then Kai and Krystal and Jennie, and one last desperate attempt with Super M or whatever ㅋㅋ it seemed they were getting a roll going with variety shows on 'Knowing Bros' ㅋㅋ but now they're hit with this random shotgun wedding that will be the final nail in their coffin.>[+560, -6] What an interesting way of getting married. "We're getting married!! (actually, it's today^_<)">[+67, -0] So he announced it on the day of his wedding and totally ruined the history and image that EXO has built over the past 8 years. He should know that there's nothing scarier than a fan who turns against you.>[+65, -1] Apparently his girlfriend already posted pictures of their wedding on her account and then deleted it… Fans are pissed and releasing it all, so…>[+52 -2] Either way, his career is over. I doubt his fans are going to send him gifts or anything anymore. Maybe he can bum a few gifts off the other members… He'll be forgotten, just like Super Junior's Sungmin…
He (or even Exo as a whole) is done for
kek whats sad is that I still think baekyeon and kaistal were both sm's retarded attempts at covering up some more scandalous shit
neither of the couples seemed even slightly invested in one another
krystal and taeyeon are no for being miserable and acting disinterested in literally everything so its still funny to me that they chose those 2 to be in fake pr relationships
Jesus, all the shotgun weddings in kpop. EXO stans are going on about how no birth control is foolproof (which is true) but I wouldn’t be surprised if most of these shotgun weddings were caused by laziness.>>72088
I can kind of see Chen getting the boot and EXO going on without him. He’s not one of the more popular members and there’s still DO and Baekhyun for vocals.
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Her and hwasa need to stop doing that half-opened mouth thing, they don't have the mouth/lips for it to look seductive as with people who have fuller lips and defined cupid's bows so it looks weird, like they're disgusted or something. Jennie needs to stop spamming her insta with millions of selfies inspired by "baddies".
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Hwasa's features look a lot better when she highlights them with lighter less harsh makeup. I wish she'd go back to this kind of look
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so the latest stan twt drama is that… blinks are accusing BTS of promoting domestic abuse because Jin showed up in a new photoshoot where he had bruises smudged onto his face kek
also the usual charge of mIsoGynYhttps://twitter.com/mentorlalisa/status/1216373352388005890
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more of the "problematic
out of the hundreds of idols, if you honestly think not one wants kids or to get married, you're a naive child. >>72099
i remember seeing blinks attempting to trend this awful performance a while ago. how come not a sing one of them good hear how bad this was kek>>72101
they need to stop over lining and just give her filler if they insist that she must have big lips. she looks like a clown and would look so much prettier with makeup that compliments her face
lol does anyone remember when dispatch said that they were gonna leak something about an exo member being in a gay relationship, but then the then current south korean president got impeached and dispatch said that they weren't gonna release anything due to the political situation out of ~respect~ or whatever and they just never released anything about it
on that note, korean kpop/exo fans did not support that outing at all, they were pretty mature about it too.
said that it would ruin his career and how dispatch shouldn't out celebrities sexualities
not to wk bts but how is a zombie apocalypse cosplay mysoginistic, meanwhile women promoting a song about a toxic
relationship looking like domestic abuse victims
is somehow not an issue whatsoever. radfem blonks need a reality check seriously.
no anon, I agree with you.
why do they keep saving molkayeol, he needs to fall
blinks really going to gloss over how blackpink had an entire concept about "killing this love" and abusive
relationships, at least thats what the woke fans tried to promote it as when promoting the woke queens all over social media. having pictures like that for the album with the girls looking beat up and vulnerable and crying really doesn't send off the We Are Killing This Love! vibe idk. seems almost reminiscent of the whole burning sun/yg scandal with pictures and videos of bruised and crying girls showing up in the chats. funny how yg gave them that concept in the midst of all of burning sun yet braindead fans think its about being empowering.
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Chen dated a few non celeb girls before, it was known among fans without problems. Fans are shocked that he is announcing a shotgun marriage so late tho, who knows if he really wants to marry. Paying her to give birth quietly as a single mom or abort is a HUGE scandal that will end his career like Kim HyunJoong. Knetz think Kai, Baekhyun are way more popular anyway. https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/01/enter-talk-imagine-if-it-was-baekhyun.html https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/01/enter-talk-exo-chens-past-girlfriend.html
has this been posted yethttps://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/01/enter-talk-imagine-if-it-was-baekhyun.html?m=1
>[+426, -9] The group would've just been over….
>[+308, -6] Me too, I feel like since it's Chen I'm just letting it slide, but if it was Baekhyun, I would've already left, and there are a lot of people like me
>[+289, -10] That's rightㅋㅋㅋ That's why it's a relief it wasn't a popular member
>[+130, -1] If it was Baekhyun, some fans would've already claim they will commit suicide and they would burn down their albums, rip open all their dolls and the earth would've been shaking now. Baekhyun would've then have to release an apology on his IG
>[+109,-1] Since it's Chen, people are going wild with the jokes on Twitter, but just picture this being Baekhyun or Suhoㅋㅋㅋㅋ No one would be able to joke around thisㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ngl i would love to see baekhyun's incel stans chimp out. them, chanyeols, and kyungsoos stans are the ones who want chen to leave the group.
lots of FEMALE idols have done photoshoots and videos where they were dirtied and bruised up, including several zombie themed ones(t-ara and 4minute come to mind)
they didnt get shit because they didnt do it around a song literally seeming to be about domestic abuse
She's one of the rare few who looks better without makeup than with it, she has pretty strong features that don't need makeup to be brought out>>72116
They're just not good enough actresses to pull of the "tough survivors of a toxic
relationship" vibe. No matter what they just look like scared little girls
I'm pretty sure those "live" performances already have editing on their vocals anyway, especially if they're filmed by the company themselves
watch 3:03 onwards of this, she even has a backing track helping and shes off time and stops singing for parts. Having small decent vocal moments do not make a good performer
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It's extreme cope to think the butthurt fans are muh white girls and not korean fans.
I honestly think most western Kpop stans are SEA who like the asian representation
most white girls aren’t into asian stuff(racebait)
There was a Reddit post a while back that talked about autotune in 'live' performances and how Blackpink clearly used it.
Anyway, she's a horrible singer and it's clear she didn't train for it. I couldn't even tell what the song was for a bit and it says so right there in the title.
Rosé's screechy chimpmunk voice is terrible but Jennie's yelling is even worse.She has no sense of rhythm.
Why are people so far up her ass?I'm sure there are plenty of pretty and at least semi- talented idols out there.
I've noticed how Jennie sometimes throws little humble brags out there, knowing fans will eat it up and make twitter threads about it ( I'm sure she googles herself like 100 times a day). She says things like ~I actually didn't get singing training~ And then all fans are like omg her vocals slay and they didn't even train her as a singer!!1 Or constantly implying that she helps with the writing..is that her way to cope with the undeserved popularity? I would think so but these videos of her singing and performing cover songs so confidently makes me think she thinks she's hot shit.
Even though back then I used to give every idol a chance, this girl and a few others have been so unlikable from the very beginning idk why. Almost all the other ones that I didn't like ended up being involved in some (bigger) controversy later so let's see…
Ooof that cover made me cringe.She forgot the lyrics and then even lip-synced some parts but it was super obvious because her voice is louder than the backing track.This ain't SK hunny lol
Apparently she trained for 6 years and for what?She even gets more lines (singing+rapping) in their songs than Rosé.
At first I could kinda see her going solo after BP disband,because she's popular and controversial enough but that lack of singing abilities and stage presence clearly proves otherwhise.
Speaking of lacking stage presence,is there a lazier gg than BP?At their recent concert in Osaka they just didn't bother doing their choreo and let the backup dancers do it instead,despite clearly lip-syncing yet again.
A lot of male Korean celebrities tbh. seungri and TOP (gd too?) jung joon young, kangin (most of sj tbh..), Zico, p.o, mino, Kim hyung joong, baekhyun, chanyeol, Henry, V, RM …that's all I remember for now lol.
And I don't get that feeling with female idols but I get entitled, rude, two-faced vibes sometimes: Jennie, yeri, IU.
The thing they have in common is that their attitude is so obvious whereas other idols with shitty attitudes can hide it and fool others.
But I left kpop long time ago and I was a fan of only 1-3 groups so I'm just rambling here and obviously don't know any of these people, and the female idols- it's almost always an attitude thing and not fucking sex trafficking scandals.
>>72126>[+235, -5] Baekhyun has to be the one top here. He's the main vocal, full of talents, good on stage, connects with the fans the best and he also has the most "boyfriend pictures". He has an individual Youtube channel, an individual Twitter page and he plays well with the fans. His face also has that male friend vibes and he looks friendly. The muggles love him, he has nice proportions and has the best aegyo too. He smiles the most and he's a good humor, he's kind as well. He's the most popular
I don't think his voice is the secret to his popularity at all, it's because he does fanservice 24/7. If you want success as an idol you really need to give your all when it comes to social media, aegyo, etc. Chen coudln't even be arsed to have instagram, of course he's at the bottom.http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/01/fans-show-mixed-reactions-to-chens.html>[+474, -9] I'll never understand the connection fans feel for their idols but I do know that idols abuse that connection to make more money for themselves than any other type of singer ㅋㅋㅋㅋ It's unfair to accuse fans who feel betrayed for "not being a real fan"
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I totally agree with this. People always see idols as victims
and fans as the ones who are in the wrong but he and all those other male idols are grown men telling little girls that they love them, that they can't have boyfriends and as a result they spent all their money on them and you expect them to not get mad and simply accept that now he suddenly has a child? Try and see how much you will make as a basic married ballad singer.
If he cares about the other members even a tiny bit, then he should leave. Sungmin got married ages ago and nevertheless there's not a single Suju article without "Leave!" comments, and without a doubt that would happen to Exo as well.
I only feel bad for Suho, after the chinese members left he had the first appearance alone and now today too.
>[+382, -22] Do you even know your own members' birthdays? It was DO's birthday the day before, and it's Kai's birthday today. Did you really have to announce this right between then? The other members all check their SNS. You're the only one who doesn't look. Do you know that 'Kim Jongdae leave the group' is trending on the search rankings? Do you know that all your fanpages are closing down?
Seems like he truly hates the others lol
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i will never understand fans giving idols lavish gifts. if they donate to a charity in their name (which some fans have done) i think that’s great and far more meaningful then giving a millionaire gucci clothing or putting up billboards in subway stations or times square (example in picture). it’s so stupid & i can imagine the advertising would annoy the shit out of anybody who isn’t a kpop fan. i live near manhattan and everytime i see a kpop idol’s birthday advertised in times square, it makes me want to gouge my eyes out (it’s also funny to me that kpop fans think times square is an incredible place when in reality it smells like piss and most new yorkers try to stay far away from it)
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Not sure if this was posted alreadyhttps://twitter.com/jjonqins/status/1187389013662896128
Are they officially over yet, or do they plan more comebacks?
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Damn all this for that? This is the video of her "on the verge of crying" lmaao. She was just just bored to death and annoyed.
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now retarded blonks are shitting on bp’s makeup artist for daring to use the filter every single person under the sun is using
answering to this to break the stupid blinkboner rant.
yeah they gonna tour again, starting end of this month continuing next. us and i think they added 2 shows in eu. prices went up though. no more 50bucks.
I love blink's hyprocisy."Stop bullying my poor uwu baby Jennie!!No wonder idols are so depressed!We should all preach more love and acceptance,you heartless twits!" but then they go and diss their makeup artist for no reason.
This fandom is just as much of a mess as BP and both deserve each other.
this is what happens when you stan a nasty shitstain like jennie. you think being a bully and ~*sAsSy SaVaGe bitch*~ is cool and quirky and makes you interesting.
i’ve seen bp stans joking about her bullying rumors and acting like she was fully justified and cool for bullying someone, implying not only that they believe the rumors but that they think it’s something to strive for. jennie stans are by far the worst gg stans, the rest of the solo stans in bp are trash but nowhere near their level.
It would suck if it turns out that she really has anxiety or depression but then she should just take a break like many other idols did recently.
If it's really so bad that it starts receiving attention,then there's no need for her to be in public,since she doesn't even care to perform properly and hasn't been for over a year now.Delusional fans babying her won't fix this.
I agree. While I find her work ethic absolutely appalling, if she is suffering mentally she should just stop. I also don't understand why either her mother or YG let her go on like this if she clearly can't handle it. Unless her mother is so obsessed with having her daughter in the spotlight 24/7 which I highly doubt given how J herself said she wanted to become an Idol, I don't understand why she doesn't pull her daughter out? The momentum of BP is already in decline and J is from what I gathered one of the if not the most popular member in SK. Her solo was bland af but it still managed to top the charts so its not as if she wouldn't be able to pull it off. As for YG, the fans would eat up anything so if they were to declare J was taking a leave due to mental issues, they would support her all the way. YG could follow up with their new GG, drop BP and have J return later as a soloist who will work on her networking with US celebs. They don't even have to disband BP, they could just let them fade into the background and just use the brand name to get them sponserships, CF's etc. Doesn't cost any money on production and sorry but at this point, none of the girls seem to actually care for the group. Rose could try out as a solo or sub-unit with Lisa for a while, Lisa could always return to Thailand and Jisoo can venture off into acting (not that she has the skills for it, but as long as she sticks to romcoms or something that doesn't require anything but looking pretty she should be fine).
Blinks have really said that? Jesus, I knew they were delusional and shit but romanticizing and glorifying bullying? As someone who is fairly familiar with how koreans/asians bully this just makes me sick to my stomach. They do realize that asian bullying takes on a whole new level, right? They will literally ostracize you for the rest of your school life, physically assault you, steal your stuff and you're basically stuck with them 24/7 because school days are ridiculously long? Then again, they are the same people who do delusional shit like this so I really shouldn't be surprisedhttps://twitter.com/Dreamlo27038003/status/1066883002792271872
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Just go ahead and scroll through some stan twitter if you dare lol.I remember seeing memes of Jennie rolling her eyes at the Beckham event with the caption "We love a sassy queen ugh step on me" or "She could bully me and I'd say thank you".The cringe.
The thing about Jennie is that it's not her supposed resting bitch face that makes her seem snobby but her attitude in general and I wouldn't be surprised at all if she has a history of being a bully.
She was linked to bullying rumours as early as 2012 (idk how to post the site but it's on netizenbuzz if anyone cares to read through it again).Mind you that they debuted in 2016.
K eggs are absolutely pathetic. Don't know if you've seen but they had a mental breakdown/anger tantrum when JYP dared to make the horrendous suggestion of their uwu sex beasts having gasp
girlfriends. I swear it was the most pathetic thing EVER to watch, especially because I think this was the time that Kai and Jennie were dating and you could see him looking like, well f them
Watching this reminds me that kpop concerts are really all just about seeing your idol in person, the performance is just another way to deliver them to the audience for money.
Idk I just don’t understand what I would be paying for if I watched lip syncing and dancing which is not as good/visible as in MVs or on music shows. If it were really ever about an idol’s talent or performance ability then watching HD fancams would provide a way better experience for free.
I know this is a pretty obvious observation, but this whole business is really just about fakery… disheartening how much Korean indie musicians struggle in the face of the idol machine.
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This is her "peak devastation" according to blonks.
That's because she knows she's a nobody outside of Asia. She has to be nice to everyone more famous than her in the States if she ever wants to get anywhere inside that LA social circle.>>72219
Half the time I wish Kpop would drop the pretense of "valuing talent" and just let them dance around untrained like the AKB48 girls do. Jpop has its own mountain of issues but they're not even pretending that idols are talented kek
It's as if she made that face on purpose so that blonks would sympathize with her>>72237
She seems shy in many interviews
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When you link something, you should at least quote something from the link or attach a picture. Here I copied the first part of it, and yes it is pathetic.
You take responsibility over the person that you love,
but I'm sad that you're not taking responsibility over the person who loves you.
I regret trying to grab onto what I should've let go.
EXO is a group that will forever be my youth, but because of Jongdae, this image is gone.
Were we only a business relationship?.. You didn't make a promise to us forever?
I thought that if we had to set priorities, we should've followed those priorities and made so we understand each other, but right now, you actions are just showing that fans and you were just a business. That's why I'm so disappointed and my heart hurts even more Jongdae-yah.
You were the "trustful Chen" and now your labels changed to "premarital pregnancy" and "kid's dad" etc. my heart just hurts so much, it just hurts.
The road that we still have to walk together is still long, I don't want us to stop now, and you either. Did you want to walk on the way that the fans paved for you? You're too selfish Jongdae-yah. I knew you didn't want to do SNS. And you probably don't look at the comments on Youtube either. So there's not much ways we can communicate but I still tried to write something… The letter that you threw away. I've been crying for so many hours being confused, I was pitying myself.
I loved you, but I think that I will love you in the future too. That's why Jongdae-yah just say "I'm sorry" once. I think this should be taking each other into consideration.
I received an alarm and I was so happy thinking that it could've been the news of your solo concert but my hands started to tremble and my tears started to fall out as I dropped my phone. You probably didn't know how I felt right?
Happy (t/n: no pronoun). Still be happy.
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>>72255>She should act like the 24/25 year old woman that she is
Jennie is the same age as Kendall Jenner, Gigi Hadid, Megan Thee Stallion and Dua Lipa, just imagine the backlash if they ever tried to act like a child just for sympathy points, people would rip them apart. Everybody just goes absolutely braindead when it comes to asians and aegyo, her being korean doesn't make this retarded behavior ok. Especially not since she aslo likes to act "sexy" at the same time. If a western celebrity did that, they'd be accused of pedobaiting and glorifying pedophilia. She speaks english, she knows exactly what she'd doing by dressing and posing like a child prostitute. And thanks to her fans we also know that she styles herself, so this is completley on her. She's so gross.
Ew what a desperate femcel.How do people become this delusional?Especially in a digital era where Kpop and idols have been exposed left and right for many years.>>72263
She's probably salty that people have taken an interest in Lisa and Rosé without being pushed by YG like she is.For all we know the other girls could also be going through shit (Lisa getting racist comments,the incident at the Thai restaurant a few weeks ago,Rosé being mocked for voicing support for Australia etc.) yet at least they try not to show it.Jennie is just a snowflake that can't stand not being in the spotlight.That's why she acts so meek when she's with the others.Since they at leats try to appear happy,Jennie ofc stands out.
You seriously think a 1 year age difference should be noticible?
You can shit on Jennie without kissing the others' non-existent asses.
Since everybody always argues about who the most popular members are, according to koreans it's thishttps://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/01/enter-talk-who-is-one-top-of-each-group.html?m=1>EXO - Baekhyun, Kai>BTS - Jungkook, V + Jimin>Twice - Nayeon, Sana>NCT - Jaehyun, Taeyong + Mark>+ Seventeen Mingyu>>72251
[enter-talk] WOULDN'T EXO-K ALONE BE F*CKING PERFECT? >1. [+341, -10]
They should've just debuted that way, the Chinese pigeons all flew away, and Chen is involved in premarital pregnangy and Xiumin is playing with Choi Sujin in front of the fans, EXO-M are just f*cked
The girl Xiumin is supposedly dating is SNSD Sooyoung's sister lol
i know this is not the point you’re trying to make but putting korean members in the chinese unit was always dumb to me. they were trying to appeal to the chinese public and as we all know by now, kpop companies always have harsher expectations on chinese members so it wouldn’t have been out of the question to find a chinese vocalist stronger than chen or at least his equal. and xiumin was always just there.
i’m guessing they were still trying to assert their ~*korean superiority*~ by not having a fully chinese sub-unit but again, it makes no sense when they already had exo-k. they could’ve just done what they’ve now done with wayv and have all non-korean members.
Chanyeol and Sehun have way more stans than Kai but Kai seems like the most well-known member.
Why would you think Sehun would be more popular though. He's useless.>>72271
Even though they don't have any Korean members, Wayv is known in China as a Kpop group who makes music in Chinese because they're from a Korean company. They're also flopping horribly and half their profits come from their one semi-relevant member. No point in not adding Korean members if they'd be associated with Kpop anyways.
“whereas both Lisa and Rose had to grow up with no parents or family to fall back on.”
lisa’s stepdad is a famous chef & rosé’s dad is a lawyer. they may not be as wealthy as jennie’s family, but they’re hardly like yunho or goo hara who were truly broke or had no family. wealthy trainees are the ones that debut nowadays. at least yg had the courtesy to pick girls that are somewhat easy on the eyes (unlike momoland’s agency). too bad he couldn’t pick more talented ones kek
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I swear this whole human "gucci/chanel" is one big cringe fest. Yes, Kai has yet to look like a hobo but he still looks like he robbed his grandmother's closet and decided to just go for it. seriously, what is it with these "luxury brands" and looking so absolutely terrible????
I wonder if he actually likes it or if he wishes he could just wear any other more normal brand. Saying that ugly overpriced piece of cloth suits your face the most is a backhanded compliment.
But at least Kai instead of V being selected got ratmies triggered
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> [+192, -8] If Jaehyun's relationship scandal breaks out, NCT 127 will be on the brink of disbandment, so it's true that Jaehyun is the one top. While for Dream, it's Jaemin
>[+93, -2] Seriously if Jaehyun gets into a dating scandal, NCT's fandom will disappear in thin air ㅇㅇ
I wonder what would happen to nct if jaehyun ever gets into a dating scandal. He's really popular for being the handsomest member and having that "perfect boyfriend" image, and lot of k-nctzens are actually just jaehyun solo stans so if they left it would take out a huge chunk of the fandom.
True, I don't deny her being a bully in the past. But let's not pretend Jennie is this major mean bitch when she's so insecure and plain. The proofs of her being a bitch is her being annoyed by Lisa and Rosé. I mean… who wouldn't? They're both insufferable and manage to do the impossible by having less personality than Jennie. I don't know why anons itt kiss Rosé and Lisa ass so much. Is it by pity?>>72308
Tacky borderline ugly IS Gucci's aesthetic. Not everyone like it but it's more interesting than grandma Chanel, Maria Grazia's Dior or Hedi Slimane's leftovers YSL.
>>72313>They're both insufferable and manage to do the impossible by having less personality than Jennie.
that may be true but they're also not known bullies infamous for their laziness and shitty attitudes.
all of bp deserve to be dragged but lbr, jennie is on another level.
In Blink's minds Jennie can do NOTHING wrong.
Lazy dancing? She sick
Looking bored? She sick
Not engaging properly? She sick
Jennie is literally known at this point to not be the most 'professional' of the members and that's that.
It sucks that there will always be antis who will go after idols,however Jennie's behavior is part of the reason why she also attracts antis.
No one gives her shit for things like weight,nationality,skin color or beauty,like other idols.It's mostly about her lack of work ethics that's been going on since 2018 and she has yet to address the reason for it or apologize.
Yes let's all baby a grown ass woman because she can't take some responsibility,improve and move on but let's not give a fuck about idols who are being harassed for things they have no control over.
Besides that,she still has more fans than antis anyway.
Normal koreans seem to find it just as hideous as we dohttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/01/kai-dolls-up-as-human-gucci-in-mix-of.html>1. [+1,058, -158] That outfit only gets a pass because it's by Gucci but if you honestly saw it hanging at some street market, you wouldn't think twice. What a bizarre look…>2. [+1,040, -238] Meanwhile his ex-girlfriend is the 'Human Chanel'>3. [+678, -165] Sure, Kai can pull it off somewhat, but this retro look better not start trending this spring. I won't be able to stand kids wearing this stuff around on the streets.
Tinfoil, but what if Jennie actually really likes Kai and therefore tries to emulate his ex's "ice princess" look?
I think it's safe to say that many of the newer generation idols were at some point fangirls wanting to join the industry to get closer to their favs.
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no kaifaggot not everybody is obsessed with your oppar. jennie is a basic bitch since forever
Why so triggered
Exo was huge with teens when Jennie was a teen and those two met up (to fuck?), so is it really that farfetched to guess that she liked him? Not anymore than you "knowing" that she likes americans who are cold…
Some of the Twice girls also admitted to being fans, it's no big deal.
BG fangirls are really embarrassing. Eat a piece of bread, calm down, and reread what you've typed.
Pedobait in Kpop and Jennies need for attention have been discussed.
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Korean EXO fans have sent a request to SM for them to kick out Chen and international EXO fans are angry as fuck and are trending on twt.
Nothing like a good internal fanwar.
South Korean male citizens are required to enlist in the military by the age of 28. In 2020, these idols will have to serve their time in the military.
Birthday: May 22, 1991
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F.T. Island’s Jaejin
Birthday: December 17, 1991
Birthday: January 11, 1992
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Birthday: March 13, 1992
Birthday: March 17, 1992
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Block B’s U-Kwon
Birthday: April 9, 1992
Birthday: April 17, 1992
Birthday: April 21, 1992
Birthday: May 6, 1992
MONSTA X’s Shownu
Birthday: June 18, 1992
K.A.R.D’s J. Seph
Birthday: June 21, 1992
Birthday: July 6, 1992
Block B’s Park Kyung
Birthday: July 8, 1992
Birthday: July 20, 1992
Birthday: August 21, 1992
Birthday: September 5, 1992
Block B's Zico
Birthday: September 14, 1992
Birthday: September 21, 1992
N. Flying’s Seunghyub
Birthday: October 31, 1992
Teen Top’s C.A.P
Birthday: November 4, 1992
F.T. Island’s Minhwan
Birthday: November 11, 1992
Birthday: November 23, 1992
Birthday: November 27, 1992
Birthday: December 4, 1992
I would have slapped her instantly kek
In this case they probably asked her to do aegyo so I don't think she did it voluntarily but it's always embarrassing to see grown ass women acting like incapable little babies.
She got viral for crying like a little kid on running man because she was scared of that haunted house.
These privileged idols are so far from reality and those moments show you how much they were babied and spoon fed. Her case is even worse cause she doesn't have any siblings so imagine how much she was spoiled…
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This is a genius moneyspinning collab tbh, has any boyband ever collabbed with Starbucks, McDs or KFC? Ugh Bigshit commercialized everything from Jhope's horsefacedness(BT21 Kakao), Jungkook sticker tattoos, JK's mental illness (BTS World) to even V's Purple quip, what's next, RM's English lesson CDs? Lulhttps://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/01/theqoo-starbucks-x-bts-collabo.html
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I mean I like both Hwasa and Chungha because they seem chill and can actually somewhat carry a note but this is just something that made me go… the fuck? Why? Also agreeing with the anons regarding Hwasa's make up, I wish she would just stop doing her own makeup and let an actual MUA do it for her because she looks like a hot as mess. That look with the bright green hair and overpainted red lips made her look like an actual clown. And she can actually look somewhat decent if she just stopped with those stupid thin eyebrows, severe contouring which doesn't suit her features, proper eye make up and short, voluminous hair. She has a long face so she should compensate that with short hair to make it appear more balanced. I really don't get why she keeps on insisting using both make-up and hairstyles that do her absolutely no justice. She just looks so much better here. Hair that complements her face, soft make up and not those horrendous overlined lips.
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I agree, though I think she could actually pull a decent look with long hair if she excludes the overlined lips and the under eye liner.
All of these rich kids like Jennie desperately crave attention and for people to put them on a pedestal and admire them.The rich ones are typically always the useless ones who don't contribute any creativity or talent.At this point she's even more useless for the group than Jisoo and that says a lot.She just wanted the badass rapper image but can't rap for shit and is obviously very insecure.
Rich idols wouldn't even have to bother with earning money.Many of their parents are happy funding their lifestyles,even if they're already old enough to move out or they just incorporate them into family business or something like that.They're too much of attention seekers and chose the idol life instead.Besides that,nobody likes idols nor takes hem seriously.Not even the Korean GP.Why break your back during your teenage years,have people walk over you and potentially flopping or never debuting ,just to be forgotten about once you're in your late 20's?
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Nobody is more useless than Jisoo
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Can keep up? She's fucking awkward. I know you are ready to say anything to drag her but Jisoo is awful
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Jennie has attitude problems nobody says otherwise. She can be ok tho and seems to keep people interested because even here Jennie's laziness is brought up x10000 times. Like ok we got it, next subject please.
Jisoo has 0% talent. People assume she will act after BP but have you seen her? She can't act to save her life.
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I don't care about how professional she is when she is so fucking awful AND boring. This is entertainment, not a a 9-5 job. I haven't seen this girl deliver once! She can't even give us milk. Really useless.
Fans praise her "humor" (pic related)… Are we in 4th grade?
Lisa manages to be decent on stage, Jennie causes drama and Rose… well no comment. That's something lol >>72460
RV has a good group dynamic so Irene's lack of personality can have a pass imo.
Yeah,they're bearable when it comes to variety.Irene contributes at least a bit more when they do their travel diaries or whatever it's called.>>72464
Lol,traitor.The delusion of their fans is real.