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No. 2070160

This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.

Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping
> Ao3 Censorship and TOS
> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers
> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads
> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama
> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters
> Debates over death of the author
> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creators

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No. 2070163

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Everytime I see this shit I have to post it.

No. 2070165

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No. 2070167

>>2070163
why does he have braces, he doesnt have braces

No. 2070168

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>>2070165

>>2070167
To be quirky I guess

No. 2070172

>>2070163
>>2070165
>>2070168
These scribbles are so fucking hard to read, tumblr kids need to stop making comics asap

No. 2070173

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No. 2070174

>>2070168
>LGBT+ coded character
>coded
I'm so done with this shit.

No. 2070177

>>2070168
>>2070167
Why can't these people just have an oc that they play dollhouse with? I also don't think his character is badly written at all, it serves the purpose of the narrative in V3 pretty okay.

No. 2070178

>>2070174
Neither of the fujobait boys are 'coded' anyway, they're just straight up homos.

No. 2070181

>>2070177
To tumblr bad writing is just any trope they dislike rather than characters actually acting out of character or contraditicting the narrative of the story.
Also Komaeda is objectively the best written character in DR.

No. 2070183

>>2070173
>HE IS ONE OF US!!!
So cult like. This picture smells of sweat, hot cheetos and BO closed off inside a dirty, humid basement. With a sprinkle of manic panic dye in it.

No. 2070187

>>2070181
I think Komaeda is better than Kokichi too tbh but I don't think he's a bad character either. It's hard for me to truly think of a badly written character in all of danganronpa on top of my head, but it's been years since I engaged in it.

No. 2070190

>>2070187
>but I don't think he's a bad character either
No I agree, I think both are well written characters which is why them being 'victims of bad writing' is so eyeroll worthy when they clearly had a lot of effort put into their writing.
>It's hard for me to truly think of a badly written character in all of danganronpa
Nekomaru and Akane are pretty terrible, and not even because I dislike them (though I do) but because they're so pointless.

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I sometimes forget how much of this kinda thing danganronpa has actually, though I think most people moved onto gacha like every other fandom.

No. 2070210

>>2070178
Kek that makes it even worse.

No. 2070212

>>2070168
>-coded anything
So it's a headcanon and straight to the garbage it goes. thanks. what the fuck is modern lgbt coding anyway, everyone with a sexuality headcanon is always 20 feet up their ass about it and ready to screech

No. 2070213

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>>2070212
The characters are actually gay to be fair.

No. 2070229

>>2070213
god these characters are so ugly how can someone sexualize this

No. 2070233

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>>2070229
I think Komaeda's pretty cute.

No. 2070239

>>2070209
I don't know much about Danganronpa but are the tags basically admitting that Chihiro isn't trans but the op thinks that's problematic so she/he is forcing his/her trans headcannon as the morally correct interpretation?

And a more pressing question: does the tumblr Danganronpa fandom even like Danganronpa? From this one being so uppity about le "trasmisogynistic writing" to that previous scribble comic's punchline being that 8(!!) characters are badly written because their writing is ableist/sexist/whatever… it makes me wonder how these people can even keep engaging with it. Compare this to the occasional "Attack on Titan is imperialist xenophobic propaganda with anti-Korean racist subtext" crowd who (from my experience) just demand that people don't read/watch AoT.

No. 2070258

>>2070239
>does the tumblr Danganronpa fandom even like Danganronpa?
I think they like the 'idea' of the characters but don't usually care about the killing game or murder mystery aspect of the game.
They kinda just treat the characters like OCs half the time anyway.

No. 2070274

>>2070258
it just became 'cool' to hate on danganronpa in the same way it became 'cool' to hate on hetalia, series with large fujo followings usually get more shit than your typical shounen shit even if their fandoms are just as obnoxious coughJojocough

This moid's vid is a pretty good example of stupid criticisms.

No. 2070350

>>2070233
He's the ugliest of them all.

No. 2070482

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I'm tired of waiting for the artist of this game to get called out when so many other artists get bombarded for less. The guy (waterkuma) is a huuuge pedo w/ his Pixiv followings (photorealistic 3DCG kids) and prior loli porn, but I've seen zero backlash against him. Though I'd guess it's because fans don't know him and assume he's uncredited/unknown like with other Mihoyo artists.
Meanwhile Twitter just complained about Omori AGAIN because the manga's author is, gasp, a shotacon. This is Mihoyo's next big game and it's coming out like, next week so maybe then.

No. 2070484

>>2070482
I knew this artist was a pedo just by looking at the ZZZ art direction before even reading about it. A masked zany deadpool ripoff self insert man surrounded by baby faced little girls with big tits and skimpy clothes is like the calling card for them.

No. 2070494

>>2070482
I doubt it'll happen because the types who would complain about that won't be playing this trash kek. Omocat gets a lot of hate because her game is popular with girls and the ones who don't like it are mad about it for whatever reason.

No. 2070504

>>2070239
>>2070258
None of the nuRonpa fans have actually played the game (or read the original Something Awful translation transcripts like we did back in the day kek). They like how the characters look and the idea of an edgy killing game is appealing to a lot of teenagers and normies, but I have never heard of them actually playing or really even understanding the game. That's why DR developed a pretty horrible reputation around online, people memefied Komaeda into some whacky creepypasta tumblr man husbando and Junko became the self insert for all the ~crazy~ e-girls and so forth, taking the characters so far from their original portrayals that if you actually played the games you would be shocked at how different they originally were. Flanderization is a real threat and can happen to any fandom.

No. 2070554

>>2070494
They absolutely will play this garbage because it's quirky characters in colorful weeby outfits but they'll awkwardly ignore the photorealistic porn drawings of little children, you will never catch them giving female creators the same amount of benefit of the doubt they do to male creators.

No. 2070583

>>2070504
the games arent even that good to begin with so honestly nothing of value was lost.

No. 2070598

>>2070504
No the fanbase was already awful and hypocritical in the same way back then. On tumblr everyone was talking about the Something Awful translation and I somehow managed tp avoid spoilers so I kept seeing things out of context. As soon as the official translation of the first game got announced for the PSVita I preordered it and several of my mutuals were sending me spoilers to warn me of how bad and problematic the game actually is, and the usual tranny shit about Chihiro (and what happened to Chihiro and why was supposed to be spoilers to begin with).

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>>2070554
That they like to police women more than men is completely true but I just don't see this game having the necessary appeal to foster that kind of audience in the first place. There are no good looking male characters (besides maybe the wolf if you're into that), this shit is going to be unheard of the way Honkai was before Genshin and then Star Rail. Like, I never see anyone look into Arknights illustrators or even talk about that game and it has a similar thing going on with their male/female designs.

No. 2070612

>>2070611
arent arknights and honkai star rail super popular though?

No. 2070636

>>2070554
I still remember vizie being dragged across the coals–for being a fujo? Or if you were a chirstcuck, glorifying demons and having the gull of safe edgy humor that didn't matter in the grand scheme. This energy was never utilized when TADC's creator had a alt with all their fetishes in full display. Or a self proclaimed pedophile lending their voice talents in an indie title while sane lesbian knocking on the trans agenda had their game vilified as satan incarnate and got taken down as result. If you're a woman, everything you say and do will be taken out of context to ruin your life because people never outgrew their hatred of women.
>>2070611
Arknights is a bad example but it's not exactly something every normie knows. I only knew of it in conversations online but otherwise the wider internet doesn't speak or even utter it despite gachas' continued raid into the mainstream. Maybe with enfield arknights could break out of that niche but your right that there isn't much to go off of in terms of male character designs. ZZZ seems like hoyo's answer to Tears of themis, a game made for husbando lovers.
the guy characters were made specifically not to offend male players either by dehumanizing them or making more masculine in a dudebro way.
I hate how proponents against omnipandering whinge about women ruining everything when that same pandering has cucked any potential femgaze we could ever get in our lifetimes. I wish there were more female-aimed media that isn't braindead rhythm games or cozy plant simulators where every moid is repugnantly ugly.

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>>2070612
Star Rail is popular because it has lots of cute shippable male characters, I mean all the previous Honkai games that only had female ones you could play. Legitimately no one besides gacha coomers seems to have heard of those until Genshin released and blew up massively with general audiences which introduced others to their previous games. All those are extremely popular as you say, but I think it's in the way where lots of people pay for and play them, but don't get into those twitter communities that like to start drama over nothing and fight about ships.
Maybe they do and I just don't see it, but the Genshit always ends up on my timeline despite me not following anyone who's into it. Like, just a few months ago I remember this artist got called out because the way she draws Cyno is stereotyping people with dark skin by making him so masculine while the Tighnari one is harmfully feminizing him and altogether it's fetishizing gay people so she should delete her account and kill herself. I really doubt you could find a similar thing happening between fans for games like Honkai 3rd, Arknights or Blue Archive or whatever

No. 2070640

>>2070637
i mean i dont think twitter drama matters while measuring the populariy of a gacha game. the only thing that is important is the amount of money it makes.

No. 2070643

>>2070640
ah rather than "popular" i should have said success

No. 2070661

>>2070640
True, but what I meant to say was that it won't become popular with the drama-hungry twitter users that would care about an artists' history. It might be successful, but it won't appear popular if people aren't talking about it online and they aren't going to do that unless hoyoverse adds compelling characters that weirdos will want to headcanon as just like me fr

No. 2070686

The whole “you shouldn’t make sexual/romantic content about asexual and aromantic characters” is so stupid, even worse when the defenders of such discourse start talking about how it invalidates people in real life. Holy shit, if you feel invalidated just by seeing this shit about a character, then do yourself a favor and stop interacting with fandom, since you are unable to separate fictional and real.

No. 2070702

>>2070686
Are there are even canon aromantic/asexual characters? I mean characters that have been confirmed as that, not characters people project their headcanon and call it coded.

No. 2070743

>>2070702
So far not many. Alastor is a popular one but the aro part's up to interpretation. In terms of the anime side, practically non-existent. Laios is often headcanon as autistic which often correlates to asexuality but again, it's too early to assume since anime isn't known to be outwardly TQA+ pandering as the west.

No. 2070744

>>2070611
>>2070637
>She doesn't know yurifags are the yaoi fangirls of 2024 and will play anything with sexy anime girls in it because MUH LESBIANS
The only reason HI3 didn't blow up like Genshin did was that it wasn't as heavily promoted in the west.

No. 2070745

>>2070702
I've seem a few but rather than asexual or whatever, they say "incapable of sexual desire" or "will never understand romance."

No. 2070759

>>2070744
I don't see that level of braindead shipping drama happening over the female Star Rail characters now though, it's only yaoi fans that get into it.

No. 2070760

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No. 2070766

>>2070759
That's called having a warped perspective, anon. If you've been so lucky you haven't seen yurifags obsessed with bronyaseele, black swan and acheron, topaz and jade, eimiko, arlefuri or any adjacent ships then your immediate circles are just heavily biased towards m/m ships.

No. 2070774

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>>2070766
bronya x seele was/is actually canon in honkai 3 kek

No. 2070777

>>2070209
"transmisogynistic" and it's about chihiro, a character who was never trans in the first place and whose story is all about being a male who feels bad he doesn't conform to the societal ideal of masculinity and whose entire character development hinges on him wanting to become stronger to match that standard and not run away into wearing girl clothes anymore. that chihiro is trans? these people are fucking retarded. "non controversial" and it's just shitting all over the source material. this does make me feel better about any fanart I've made though, since as unskilled as it is at least it'll never be this level of horrible and disrespectful to the original work no matter how hard I tried

No. 2070782

>>2070777
samefag in general observing these freaks in fandoms really boosts my self esteem and will to create fan content and not feel ashamed of myself for it even if it isn't perfect. shit like this >>2070760 looks like a 10 year old drew it and still gets 300 likes

No. 2070798

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>>2070777
Ironically the characters they do champion, like picrel, tend to be a lot more offensive than characters like Chihiro.

No. 2070803

>>2070766
If they have insane drama it's never discussed here or anywhere else though. All I ever see is whiny tweets about how yaoi is too popular and yuri is much better, never anything specific about how problematic it is to make Arlecchino look muscular or some shit

No. 2070835

>>2070798
two of them aren't even trans (bleach roach boy and grell). i don't know who bottom left is

No. 2070850

>>2070835
In those circles those two have been widely accepted as trans unfortunately, even their wiki pages refer to them as women and people debate about their genders all the time. What I mean to say is that the characters who they do use to "represent" themselves are usually if not always problematic compared to the characters they condemn (Chihiro and traps in general). Bottom left is a TIM serial killer from an eroge, and top left died from a heart attack after spotting one ingrown hair on his face which honestly sounds like the same "offensive" okama shit they denounce in my opinion, but if you want you can count him out since two out of those four are more than enough to highlight the cognitive dissonance of trannies/TRAs.

No. 2070857

>>2070798
It's hilarious that they claim Grell since he's literally a serial killer with canon womb envy. Telling on themselves.

No. 2070873

>>2070760
wow, is it now considered gnc for boys to have an emo phase? it's like anything and everything is now gender

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>>2070857
the guy from bleach is even funnier, since he is a perverted sadist who pretends to be female so he can get close to women and mind rape them into killing themselves so he can use their corpses as weapons.

No. 2070895

>>2070798
who's on first?

No. 2070956

>>2070168
Heart-shaped mouths were a mistake

No. 2070960

>>2070880
>mind rape them into killing themselves
He doesn't kill women himself or what?

No. 2070966

>>2070895
Who's on first

No. 2070970

>>2070966
Try Search image with Google in right click or use Google Lens idk

No. 2070971

>>2070966
That's what I want to find out!
>>2070970
It's an ancient word play gag nonna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

No. 2070974

>>2070966
Zombieland saga character, the smallest in the group. I forgot his name but he legitimtely wants to be a girl and his cause of death was bc he was starting male puberty and grew facial hair kek.

No. 2070983

>>2070960
they're conscious when he does it and beg him not to make them do it, he does it that way because he is a sadist.

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>>2070956
Heart mouths can be cute, these idiots just ruin every artstyle, they are like plague but more stinky

No. 2071004

>>2070974
his name is lily anon its literally in the screenshot

No. 2071008

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>>2070760
gnc is when a man isnt bald. This person cant be over 14 i remember back in the 00s every single man had this emo hair(we need to retvrn)

No. 2071012

>>2071004
I think she meant his real name, not his tranny name.

No. 2071033

What a disappointment when you see nice fanart >>2070760 and then the underwhelming source material >>2071008

No. 2071063

>>2070482
sadly its very normalized for japanese male artists to be lolicons, nobody really cares. theres so many cases of mangas going on hiatus because of their mangakas getting arrested for child pornography possession

No. 2071067

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>>2071063
Is this you?

No. 2071074

>>2071063
There's been like, five famous cases.
Didn't the Toriko guy call the cops on himself?

No. 2071102

>>2071074
Samefag but I genuinely don't know much about it and am asking to see if it was some sort of cope or joke.

No. 2071129

>>2071067
Im not saying all anime fans are pedos? just saying pedophilia is very normalized in Japan and it doesnt seem many people there care if their favorite artist is a lolicon or a full-on cp consumer, sadly

No. 2071180

>>2071008
>gnc is when a man isnt bald.
nobody knows (we know) why gendies consider anyone slightly less manly than rambo a femboy but It's funny how they worship gender roles so much unironically

No. 2072070

Do any of you feel like you're outgrowing fandoms? I'm not talking about fandoms of medias targeted to kids and teenagers. I mean fandoms with mature audiences. What do you take from your fandom that makes it worth your time?

No. 2072105

>>2072070
Nowadays I only care about some fandoms for Japanese series and games, so I look for fanart and doujinshi made by Japanese or Korean fans online, and that's it. I don't interact with anyone other than that, unless my irl friends are also into these same series or games, then we make small talk about that or talk about our favorite characters or scenes or pairings. My own friends also don't participate in fandoms at all except for one, and even then we talk about series we like normally while she admitted she has to be very careful online to not get canceled by her online "friends" for liking a specific pairing.

No. 2072114

I hate when western weebs start fights with Japanese fan artists. For instance when a Japanese artist draws a character‘s figure thinner than it is in canon and all the westerners gets triggered kek

No. 2072116

>>2071129
it isn't "normalized" kek elevens simply understand that cartoons aren't reality and no child is actually being harmed

No. 2072119

>>2072070
>What do you take from your fandom that makes it worth your time?
Might seem like a nonanswer, but I guess the content?
When people are genuinely excited about what happens in the series. Most of the time it's people reacting to what's official, discussing theories about what happens or reading into the worldbuilding, branching off from that rather than just making everything they like about a series up.
A fandom is rotting to me when it feels like most people into it are going "I am a fan of this series, can't you tell from how much I'm shitting on it and pretending the characters are written the way I want them to be?"
So basically, nowadays I just mute anything in English.

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>>2072114
i wonder how triggered western people would be if Nana was published right now, it's tim burton tier of thinness in here ( or maybe japanese mangaka gets away with it because they aren't white or some shit ? )

No. 2072215

>>2072123
i've always thought this but man is the art of nana ugly af

No. 2072284

>>2072123
Nana is actually popular nowadays

No. 2072289

>>2072123
Couldn't get into it
Zero handsome men

No. 2072295

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>>2072289
watch jjk for sukunas beauty

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>>2072289
The only cute one (picrel) unfortunately turned out to be a rapist scrote or something like that I don’t remember exactly. Moreover the art style only looks good in its manga form imo it doesn’t translate well into anime at all.

No. 2072304

>>2072123
zoomers love nana but i wish they would cancel it. i'm tired of seeing poser weebs consoom because hachi is literally them or something

No. 2072354

>>2072123
>triggered western people
we literally don’t care about that anime anymore. you can continue to get shoved into tuna can trains where the moids prey upon you

No. 2072396

>>2072354
Going to be honest, this might sound weeaboo or whatever but women only cars would be nice compared to "ignore the schizo moid that's screaming about shoving needles up his taint" I have to deal with anyway.

No. 2072492

>>2072070
More or less what >>2072119 said.
I really enjoy fanart and talking about the actual story

No. 2072587

>>2072116
..well except for the ones who trace over images of real children kek

No. 2072669

>>2072070
Yeah, it happened slowly over the past few years. I can’t stand the preaching or the ugly Fa art. I can handle ugly beginner art but ugly politicized fanart pisses me off.

I still watch the older stuff I life, and I lurk the oldest forums I can. I miss the vibes but it has no purpose for me anymore

No. 2072700

>>2072295
nta but I would have started this show way sooner, since day one even, if someone told me Sukuna is voiced by Junichi Suwabe. Unironically.

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No. 2072963

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This is so fucking funny

No. 2072965

>>2072707
i will never understand one piece’s popularity. the art is ugly as fuck and the creator’s a pedo apologist.

No. 2072967

>>2072963
Their friend died in the yaoi mines, crushed by Bakudeku doujinshis.

No. 2072970

>>2072967
>>2072963
Kekkk
>>2072707
I need the full pic asap

No. 2073030

>>2072965
I liked the very beginning of the anime when I was way younger, it was just a normal, fun shonen 90s/early 2000s anime that didn't take itself seriously. And from what I've seen of the manga the art was a lot better and more charming than what I keep seeing now. I don't get how anyone can get invested in this series now though, my little sister is a huge fan and from what she told me it seems very repetitive now with no end in sight. At least I managed to read JJBA fairly fast when the anime started because the series has very distinct stories with different protagonists so it didn't feel like it was some neverending shit with vague foreshadowing that doesn't even pay off. And the art looks like shit now.

No. 2073054

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This is straight-up slander. I know Emma and she is Asian, she's not fond of unnecessary wokeness but she's absolutely liberal, this is a story where the racist is presented as a villain for abusing a young black girl

No. 2073189

>>2073054
>Villain does villain shit
>This is extremely poor taste!
Oh my fucking GOD. Familial trauma really is going to be the only acceptable conflict right now, isn't it?

No. 2073262

I don't watch precure but fans of it freaking out over one of the characters getting married is really funny (he turns into a bishounen guy btw)

No. 2073435

>>2073262
Can't wait for Jillian to talk about this shit and apply it to herself because she got proposed to as well

No. 2073438

>>2070798
>>2070850
>>2070857
Troons just love being represented by problematic shit like that, I think it's funny

No. 2073492

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wtf does this mean

No. 2073495

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>>2073492
Homosexuality is when anime

No. 2073504

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>>2073262
the precure fandom is hilarious

No. 2073507

>>2073492
>imageboard user never heard of shitposting
it's over

No. 2073529

>>2073492
bisexuality is a joke. anon above me claims it’s shitposting but they genuinely believe any heterosexual relationship that is slightly not stereotypical is bisexual somehow, possibly because the female acts in a “masculine” way and the male acts in a “feminine” way. bisexuality is such a joke

No. 2073543

>>2073529
Are you 12 years old? What is this casual retarded homophobia and sexism… That img has nothing to do with real life it's a shitpost meme template. There is no truth there. That's not even what bisexuality is, you are confused.

No. 2073545

>>2073543
Don't reply to bait, just report it

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>>2073543
no, like i said bisexuality is a total joke these days: most of them are just spicy straights. they think those characters are queer bisexuals for the reasons i stated, it’s just picrel mentality in action…it’s a joke yeah but there’s a grain of truth in it to them

No. 2073649

>>2073621
How does making them bi make a straight ship less straight?

No. 2073663

>>2073621
I legitimately forgot we were talking about ships here, I thought you were talking about bisexuals in real life. Nevermind kek

No. 2073674

Do Eastern fans easily accept source material getting watered down in adaptations? I know that Japanese anime fans can get unreasonable at times over things like colour changes but it feels like when it comes to Western adaptations people are willing to throw out the source material so it can appeal to broader audiences or Political Agenda TM (You decide what that means) and the original story just gets watered down.

When I say “Eastern” fans I don’t necessarily mean Asian fans but I guess anime/manga/manhwa/manhua fans and I noticed that in that sphere it’s more acceptable to be bitter as a purist but in Western adaptations it’s seen as irrational

No. 2073719

>>2073649
Because you can draw fanart of the guy getting his arsehole gaped into a vintage golf bag without having canon episodes banned in China since he has screen time with a wife

No. 2073723

>>2073529
Okay but you're seething over a shitpost which makes you giga turbo cringe by the rules of sacred imageboard culture.

No. 2073729

>>2073663
nta but bisexual IRL are annoying as well

No. 2073756

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I wish the new fans could understand that BSD is a seinen, is not a shonen anime.

No. 2073861


No. 2073888

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>>2073621
and then there's picrel

No. 2074056

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>>2070611
i'm looking foward to it because it looks fun, plus i like the urban style. apparently they seem to be shooting in all directions with this game, soon enough there will be some yaoi bishies if they feel like catering to more people lol

No. 2074211

>>2074056
>1 bishounen vs 30 lolis and big titty waifus
>T..they'll implement more yaoi bishies…. won't they?
Anon, give it up.

No. 2074278

>>2070482
Japanese people dont give a shit. Yana is an open shotafag and still works for Disney.

No. 2074282

>>2073888
Both people in this screenshot are cringe as fuck

No. 2074285

>>2070611
there are a lot of thots who will play this the same way they play LOL and collect Sonico figures despite being straight

No. 2074423

>>2074056
I don't have hope for this game giving any bishies, not even the new male characters they showed off so far are cute

No. 2074924

From what I have seen japanese media portrays tims as being either 1) gay drag queen clowns (you can see this in one piece and other older gag series) or 2) the "trap" archetype (bridgette and astolfo) who resemble(and often act like) small, under-developed children. The former is a mocking joke that japense drag queens don't really mind, while the latter is pedophilia

No. 2074927

>>2073888
This cringe is so good. It makes me feel like that hands-rubbing-on-face meme. I love it.

No. 2074971

>>2074285
Play yes, but would they argue about it or make fanworks? I doubt it

No. 2074972

>>2074924
I’m not going to watch that video but traps aren’t portraying tims. Traps merit is incel pedophile bait but they were never meant to present transgenders or the men who are into them. Tims like them because they fit their agp wish fulfilment but the characters themselves aren’t usually agps. Forced crossdressing fetish content is the closest ‘representation' agps could get

No. 2075104

>>2074924
I bet you he'll interpret samurai pedastry as mtfs too. I hate leftists like this.

No. 2075284

>>2074211
i said that as an ”if”, i personally won't be looking for it to happen as i tend to prefer cute girls anyway

No. 2076072

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Women getting mad at other women for enjoying eroge is the most bizarre form of female intrasexual competition I’ve seen. Instead of lusting for the approval of a wealthy, well built, attractive men, they’re tearing each other up over fat recessed hairline neckbeards whom the attractive man wipes the ass of. You are not special for having an array of loli body pillows and posters of naked anime women, in fact you’re just like the people you clamor against. And to be completely honest with you, as someone who’s been into vns way before tik tok Pinterest popularity bullshit or whatever I’m glad more women are getting into them (even if it’s usually the worst ones).

No. 2076081

>>2076072
This isnt a woman problem this is a loser problem

No. 2076086

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>>2076072
>i’m glad more women are getting into tranny loli rape games

No. 2076090

>>2070636
> Or a self proclaimed pedophile lending their voice talents in an indie title while sane lesbian knocking on the trans agenda had their game vilified as satan incarnate and got taken down as result
what are you talking about so I can avoid it and support the lesbian

No. 2076093

>>2076072
It’s not any form of intrasexual competition. Hope that helps.

No. 2076096

>>2076086
I was talking about vns in general, which include bl and completely sfw games. Either way I really don’t care if a woman enjoys for example saya no uta when I know she likes it for different reasons than the moid does, even if they’re consooming the same game.

>>2076093
How so?

No. 2076113

>>2074924
This guy is a big TRA and also a a huge incel, fyi. It's a shame because he does well researched and well argued videos.

No. 2076117

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>>2074924
>one piece
speaking of, why is one piece being hailed as some kind of troon-positive series and that okama island is ackshually super progressive (in some mysterious way they refuse to specify when asked)

i see op fans saying shit like
>imagine being transphobic and into one piece, oda literally hates u
like are they really that stupid or just plain delusional? both?

No. 2076172

>>2076072
let me rate youre that weird susahibifag who was mad at people saying its shit loli rape bullshit (which is it)

No. 2076175

>>2076117
If they're a fan of something, then it/its creators must also support them and their identity/ideals. One Piece is also a lot of people's first anime from back in the day and it's also still ongoing, so it holds both a nostalgic and current presence in a lot of people's lives, so I'm not surprised it's something troons have latched onto considering all their typical traits and many of them starting off as nerdy weebs

No. 2076200

>>2072105
I mostly do the same, talk with some friends, and check specific artists for fanart, but it's really not the same as it used to be. I used to be able to go to forums and have interesting discussions about the series with strangers without being overly aggressive or full of delusions.
>>2072119
Tbh all my fandoms turned into your example, even older fandoms. That's why I feel maybe I am the outlier at this point. I am in both English and non English parts of fandoms. I agree the English fandom has those issues, but the same problems are already poisoning my non English fandom counterpart and it wasn't free of its annoyances. I can't stand either right now.
>>2072669
That's exactly how I feel. I can't bring myself to talk about my favorite series in the current fandom spaces. I see no point and the few times I've tried were incredibly disappointing. I'm coming to terms with the fact that the problem might be me.

No. 2076201

>>2076072
i don’t really get this post as nobody here is fighting for male approval but i do think lc’s views towards media are tumblr-y sometimes…except instead of it being twansphobic it’s just claiming x plotline is misogyny and pretending anime characters look like children. like it’s moralfagging of a different stripe

No. 2076206

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>>2074924
bridget and astolfo just look like girls with pecs…like in no reality do children have wide hips. do you think those genshin twinks (scara is the main one that comes to mind) resemble children btw

No. 2076220

>>2076172
Nigga what. I love subahibi a lot but I fully acknowledge it’s definitely an outlet for scajis coomer degeneracy and I’m not gonna deny that.

>>2076201
I’m not talking about lc, I’m talking about places like twitter kek

No. 2076226

>>2076096
>if a woman enjoys for example saya no uta when I know she likes it for different reasons than the moid does
Those women getting into saya no uta are getting into it for male attention though, yes, fat crusty weeb male attention. Sure, the average farmer who has played those games is probably an older weeb who is just playing a popular vn. But the resurgence in saya no uta is absolutely due to discord kittens and ethot wannabes who for some fucking reason enjoy the company of failmales

No. 2076249

>>2076117
mtf troons actually look like picrel kek, lesbian subreddits are unfortunately full of transbians selfies and I see no difference lmao

No. 2076349

>>2070880
>>2070798
Trannies I know really love this character and it's funny seeing what he actually is while all I've heard is them saying he's a stunning and epic representation of trans women and acting like he's an amazing character
>>2071063
yeah, I really hate how whenever I find a cool jp artist they always do loli shit. not even just drawing loli characters, actual sexual lolicon type of content

No. 2076353

>>2076206
i know you just posted that roidpig to prove a point but please stop. do you have any anime recs with cute boys btw you seem to have good taste otherwise.

No. 2076369

>>2076201
Is a female forum a female forum if there isn't moralfagging?

No. 2076370

>>2076072
i don't think it's intrasexual competition as it's mostly pickmes into vns nowadays trying to show off for males, but as someone who also read vns way before they suddenly gained more popularity recently I'm on the same boat and I'm tired of how much people here act like if you enjoy any of it at all you're automatically the same as a scrote or a pickme even if you aren't excusing the bad aspects of these mediums whatsoever or reading/watching anything for male attention. they'll still come for you on the sole basis of consuming something moids enjoy and act like you can't like anything that isn't idk, feminist books or boring normie media. and then they want to act like they're any different from the trannies and other genderspecials who moralfag and police people having different preferences from them

No. 2076373

>>2076201
I've seen users complain about boring unsexualised media and accuse the fans of being pickme's because of stupid reasons like "the art style is porny" (it never is kek)

No. 2076633

>>2076369
Why do we need to moralfag? It's not like women are out there diddling little boys and raping scrotes after jilling it to yaoi porn?

No. 2076643

>>2076633
Idk, maybe its that despite moids no longer necessarily being the goal, the competition to be the "superior" women is still there?

No. 2076648

>>2076633
as women we are more prone to try to keep society on a straight line somewhat. "just do whatever you want bro I don't care bro we don't need any rules bro who cares if anyone gets hurt I just wanna coom" is the nature of the male

No. 2076654

>>2076072
I just read whatever has a semi interesting sounding plot or has yaoi in it.
Eroge, otome, BL, general galge all work for me.

No. 2076867

>>2076648
That's retarded. We shouldn't be held to the same standard as men when women are way better at telling the difference between fiction and reality than they are.

No. 2076902

>>2076353
kek stop it

>>2076633
>Why do we need to moralfag? It's not like women are out there diddling little boys and raping scrotes after jilling it to yaoi porn?
exactly, yet women into weird fiction get called pornsick. like i feel women who willingly suck cock or do the whole lana del ray cnc coquette shit with their men are far more "porn sick" than a woman who reads shota oni sometimes

No. 2076968

>>2073262
Damn, I was obsessed with Yes 5 back then just remembered they were getting new content. Nozomi and Coco (who yeah, transforms into a human) was a popular ship and obviously pushed by the network, why are they acting surprised? Guarantee it’s performative activism.

>>2073504
These guys can’t be real lmafo.

No. 2076975

>>2076117
It’s only because of that tranny Okiku bathing with the women and that Yamato girl (calls herself male out of admiration or something) who bathed with the men lol.

No. 2076999

>>2076975
The Yamato shit is so retarded because it's only Westies who think she's trans and literally everyone else just sees her as a woman with a comedic larping gimmick.

No. 2077076

>>2076648
Felt hook line and sinker into female socialization

No. 2077083

>>2076648
this is like the terminally online version of when boymoms force their daughters to take care of their retarded younger brothers and do house chores while their brothers rot away in their coom dungeons playing lol and not lifting a finger

No. 2077088

>>2076072
i recently started playing Vns and its insane how a bunch of them have genuinely really good plots with waifushit and coom sprinkled on it for no good reason at all. Right now i am sticking to the classics like higurashi and BL VNs but man some of the coomery ones like saya no uta sound pretty neat

No. 2077090

>>2077088
Some authors throw in coomshit whenever they worry about the selling risk involved with a storyline or character.

No. 2077091

>>2077088
>waifushit and coom sprinkled on it for no good reason at all
That's their main paying demographic from the inception of the medium, plotfags have never been and never will be anywhere close to profitable as coomers.

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>>2077088
Swan song in particular has that issue, the horror of the snow for the first few hours of the game is pretty amazingly done but the random waifu shit and BADASS HREO ruins it, not to mention that they add a random good alternate ending for no reason, same goes for the latter half of subahibi.
Bothers me less with stuff like Higurashi though since all the characters are genuinely complex and likable despite having moe tropes added in.
>some of the coomery ones like saya no uta sound pretty neat
Eh, it has some okay stuff in it but it pretty much 90% relies on how you feel about Saya herself, who since I'm not that into waifu stuff does nothing for me. Ryouko is pretty good though, it's nice to see a female character who's motivated by revenge and not sexualized.

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>>2076206
bridgets best design was when he was in the pachinko game and looked more boyish, i really wished they let him mature into a pretty man who didn't care about performing stereotypical masculinity or femininity. sad he just gets mindbroken by a fat fed into accepting his childhood grooming.

No. 2077147

>>2077124
i wish they'd just kept him as a trap, i like the new design

No. 2077445

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>>2076654
Based. I like you nona.

>>2077088
The first few VNs I played were all eroge because back then there were hardly any translated BL and otome. I got severe whiplash every time the writers pulled that sudden coom jumpscare crap. To this day I have not recovered from the famous "mana transfer" 3p shit from the original Fate game.

On a separate note, I'm so tired of moralfags who are in denial that they are a failed moralfag. They play edgy games, fall in love with "problematic" characters and write longass essays about how HER husbando raping his love interest does not make him a rapist because REASONS (he was just jealous and afraid of abandonment, you don't understand). Other characters who have done similar (or even less problematic) actions are evil enough to get the electric chair, but not her husbando. Such a moralfag-lite is in denial that her oshi gets a free pass simply because his design and sob story is to her personal taste, and seethes over other fans who either celebrate him being "rapechad" or consider him a tropey rapist character while being honest about simply liking his looks.

No. 2077450

>>2077445
Its impossible to enjoy anime/VNs and be a non-hypocritical moralfag. Nobody wants to accept it, but 99% of anime is degenerate and the people that moralfag about it arent the ones enjoying the 1% truly non-problematic anime(like precure and other anime for toddlers).

No. 2077641


No. 2078122

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>>2076999
>"What do you mean he calls himself with male pronouns because she admires a moid? He's a trans man like me!".

Is like ignoring her whole purpose for TRA brownies.

No. 2079089

>>2078122
Waiting for the day Oda reveals Crocodile was a man all along. I seethe so hard when I see him with mastectomy scars or make gendie manifestos regarding him

No. 2079156

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>>2079089
Or make Yamato start to call herself with "atashi".

No. 2079267

>>2079156
If this ever happens they're just gonna call it transphobic storytelling and that Oda is wrong just like what they do with Naoto.

No. 2079697

>>2078122
this could've been a good genderbent piece but the scars ruin it.

No. 2079782

>>2079267
I have no idea why they think Oda is some progressive guy. Did they not see all the trannies on tranny island? They're all repulsive. That Kiku fag was a mistake

No. 2079823

>>2077124
Late but wouldn’t his adult character look too much like the vampire goth? I don’t play but there was online talk about they changed him too. I assume they’d make Bridget the same as the goth character, draw a woman and call him a man. I’d love more VK-like characters but they’ll all be changed into women while female masculine characters are changed into men, like the one armed samurai woman or the one piece girl. It’s boring frankly.

No. 2079858

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>>2079782
In their defense (?), most of the actual fans of OP weren't even born when the manga started, so they're not used of Oda's shenanigans.

No. 2080168

>>2079782
There was definitely some "historical revision" going on after more normies got into OP during the pandemic because people used to consider the Newkama arc transphobic before that. But nowadays I see OP fans claiming that Bon Clay/Ivankov are actually good representation for non-passing trannies. From a TRA standpoint I don't see how the Newkama shit isn't transphobic considering they were basically portrayed as mentally ill ugly predatory gay men.

No. 2080180

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>>2079823
kinda confused on what you mean here? there's nothing really gorhoc about his design. realistically speaking, if they did go with the bishie angle, he'd just look similar to Ky while still keeping elements of the nun dress. I know you said you haven't played Guilty Gear but could you be reffering to Testament when you were talking about a goth character? picrel I doubt they'd look anything similar giving the contrasting aesthetics. Plus Testament isn't really seen as the "femboy" of the series the same way Bridget has been

No. 2080374

I'm so fucking sick of trannies in fandom. Women used to be able to talk about the objectification of women in media (especially in anime and video games which are rife with this shit), but nowadays you can't even bring the topic up without a million trannies dogpiling you with their stale "um ackshyually as a lesbian I looove this objectified female character/fetishized yuri ship and I think there's nothing wrong with it! some women like this kind of stuff too uwu" takes. Of course you fucking like it, you're the literal target demographic for those characters because you're a straight male you braindead fucking scrote. And you can't point this shit out because then you're the bad guy. You can't say that their opinion is invalid because they lack a woman's perspective on the issue, because then you'll be labeled a transphobe and ostracized by the whole community and your point will be moot. These "progressive" trannies have shut down any discussion about the objectification of women in media far more effectively than incels or rightoids ever did and I fucking hate it. I fucking hate that I can't point out the obvious, that these men are not women, much less lesbians, and that the only reason they're okay with coomer content in their media is because they're just like any other filthy, degenerate heterosexual moid. And you would think that the fact that real women still hate those character designs and only trans """"women"""" like them would make them realize that they have nothing in common with real women, but I guess if these people had any self awareness they wouldn't be trannies in the first place.

No. 2080376

>>2080180
Why her head so fuxking small momokun build

No. 2080379

>>2076090
NTA I don’t know what indie game has the pedo va, but the game with the creator who criticized the trans movement is likely Heartbeat.

No. 2080437

>>2080379
it wasnt the creator, it was the girlfriend of the creator.

No. 2080440

>>2080374
>"um ackshyually as a lesbian I looove this objectified female character/fetishized yuri ship and I think there's nothing wrong with it! some women like this kind of stuff too uwu" takes
Oh, absolutely to hell with that take. It's maddening to see so many Pick-mes and TIMs defending this drivel under the pretense of empowerment without a hint of irony in their words. my thresholds for coomshit is high but it should be acknowledged yuri was always meant for straight people, not to mention yuri hentai with it's male gazey visuals and ooc sex scenes. But since anything that stars women and no men is feminist, even a lesbian porno is deemed a sex positive masterpiece to these ingrates. Maybe that's why TIMs hate yaoi and attractive men so much. It's the only space they can't invade as engaging with why women like BL will unveil their inherent misogyny and reality checks don't really mix with troons.
>>2080379
NTA the former was billie bust-up. I was using it as an example where men get away with more shit than women. There's actually a video on the subject by sarah z if you're willing to find it. It doesn't go into too much depth since obviously a third of her audience are troons and genderspecials so tread carefully.

No. 2080458

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>>2080376
funny you mention momokun.. also its a man but trannfied for ggs troon coomer audience

No. 2080460

>>2080458
jesus fucking christ what did she do to her face

No. 2080546

>>2080458
Smoothest knee in the us of a

No. 2080548

where do you nonas go to sperg about anime/shows you're obsessed with? i used to go on tumblr, but it got so bad i deleted. however i still crave discussion

No. 2080590

>>2080548
I enjoy writting at Dreamwidth, but it's a wasteland unless you're into live action media and books so I just spreg about my videogames alone and hope someone sees kek.
80% of discussion nowadays happen at Twitter (bad) Discord (even worse), so the only way is to try finding normal people at Twitter. But honestly I have found most of the chill people over Tumblr, maybe you can give it a second opportunity. It's one of the calmer social media right now, there are tons of genderspecials and such but the callout phase has gone away since the highschooler userbase has grown up.

No. 2080591

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>>2080458
Testament was isn't really "trans" but due to the very nature of him becoming a Gear, somehow made him sexless, he's considered nonbinary currently. I still call him he, but his design was always meant to be androgynous. I actually like his new design sans the widened hips. takes away the androgyny imo because now he just looks like a flat goth woman. atleast the voice being a mix of masc/fem is still present in Steive. the Japanese dub voiced by a woman, in English he's voiced by a TiM. doesn't bother me all that much since at least he's talking in his regular voice and not forcing a transcent

No. 2080595

>>2080591
also I apologize for the typos, I'm a mobilefag

No. 2080611

>>2080548
I don't.

No. 2080686

>>2080611
Unironically this. I’m too tired to spend all of my free time aimlessly looking for online friends with similar interests to me. Then having to actively befriend these online friends and get into their invite-only discord. Then having to tolerate not being able to be myself and having to be on their good graces 24/7 so I don’t get kicked out. There just isn’t a point to this anymore. I would rather be alone and shitpost on image boards.

No. 2080701

>>2080376
Testament is still considered a man. His new design is just absolute shit.

No. 2080703

>>2077124
Bridget would have been so much better if he became a sexy ikemen type character. I hate what they did with him. GG sucks now anwyay.

No. 2080704

>>2074924
Why is the west so obsessed with thinking traps are trannies? Because they're not.

No. 2080713

>>2080704
Tbf, Bridget is one of the few times where it really is the case.

No. 2080792

>>2080704
Because they think Japanese people aren't enlightened enough to realize traps = trans even though actual tranny characters exist, they just don't care about them.

No. 2080885

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>>2080703
the official eng arcsys account shared this fanart before bridgets official strive debut, and while this leans a little too masculine imo, i think a design like this would have been much better. from a story standpoint, having bridget grow up and mature into a man who doesn't concern himself with others opinions and live for himself would have been so much nicer. they could have even stuck to the plot of him having to go and save his twin brother, and actually earn his villages respect, but now he is just a weird manchild who talks about wanting to have "cute offs" and says shit like "let me TRANSfix you!" before fighting people. pure shit.

>>2080591
testament was always supposed to be androgynous, but i think people are exaggerating how "ambiguous" his design was in the past when he had quarter back shoulders and very visible cock cage. there has been a lot of people claiming that he was always supposed to be nonbinary too, but by playing the old games it is obvious he wasn't, with the amount of times he gets called kliffs son. the word daisuke used when talking about his ~gender~ in his strive reveal was indeed the word for "sexless", but i still think its incredibly lame. we'll never see any of the female gears take on a more masculine or androgynous appearance, and this shit was totally for taking a female gaze character and making it into a basic goth slut for coomers and trannies, what a tragedy…

No. 2080890

>>2080885
>and says shit like "let me TRANSfix you!" before fighting people
there is no fucking way he says this, the fuck

No. 2080898

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>>2080890
i couldn't believe it myself when i first heard him say it.

No. 2080904

>>2080704
the west is really bad at understanding gender nonconformity in any shape

No. 2080912

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>>2080904
outside of it being a joke or restricted to homosexuals, i mean.

>>2080898
this is so corny. reading over his old quotes from the og game and he used to have some entertaining sass. i really wonder why they couldn't have just left him ambiguous if they wanted to pander to trannies

No. 2080963

>>2080704
>>2080904
Can it be helped though? It seems like Japan is pandering to this thought at times like that paper mario ghost. Nintendo toned down her sister’s disgust and changed it from being an okama joke to actually being trans in the official translations. I thought it stayed the same in Japan but nope, seems like they toned it down too. They also added a new line: “born as male but heart of a woman” which is similar to what Okiku (the tranny from one piece) says and from what little I know, it’s officially trans.

No. 2081057

>>2080591
Frankly, Testament looks like a fag

No. 2081066

>>2081057
He was a hot goth guy and he loved Dizzy. Now he is just a generic troon goth "gf".
I will put a whole room lego carpet in Daisuke Ishiwatari's bedroom.

No. 2081569

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>>2080885
I agree the whole point of Testament was to look androgynous, a concept Japan used to obsess with late 90s and early 00s. Malice Mizer was a great example of this, but I'm not deep into japan fashion music or history to go into details. All I know is that they have a long history with ambiguous representation, going back to their Kabuki theatre era. If you look up the Onnagata history it's really telling how Japan sees this gender non conformity and it's still very misogynistic and male centered. When more men star jacking off to women turning into bara man, you'll see it happen to some character.

No. 2081574

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>>2081569
THEY RUINED HIM, THEY RUINED MY BEAUTIFUL GOTH BOY…

No. 2081657

Otome nonnies, in bl thread some fujo nonnies discussed about otome fandom being toxic. Is this true? Specifically talked about otome leddit and twitter and about a blog reviewer that go cyber bullied for writing a bad review about a popular otome game.
If you know give me more milk please kek.

No. 2082016

>>2081657
The most notable drama was the love and deepspace bl ban but otherwise I ain't sure.
in other news, has fandom drama been slowing down? this thread has been a tad slow lately.

No. 2082021

>>2082016
>in other news, has fandom drama been slowing down? this thread has been a tad slow lately.
I think the biggest spergs purged their systems of the worst autism fujo discourse or have just stopped posting, so we're left with a slower, actually readable thread.

No. 2082025

>>2082016
>love and deepspace bl ban
What? The creators banned creating Love and deepspace BL? Or was the userbase angry at bl? Pls tell me more.
>>2082021
Kek, yeah. That anti-fujo vs fujo thread was a great idea, actually mostly cured the constant fujosperging that was a problem for years.

No. 2082037

>>2082025
iirc they just banned posting bl content in official spaces, not altogether

No. 2082086

>>2082037
Well, whatever, their game sucks anyways, one of their characters refused to talk to me after i clicked on him too much, what even is that? And if it's one of the most famous otome fandom current drama, then it's not that toxic at all, kek.

No. 2082089

>>2082016
>>2082021
This thread's also not having those 'what is acceptable husbandofag material' (and gachashit) spergouts anymore. They were kinda wild so I miss coming to read the latest fandom thunderdome session a little kek, but it's clear those posters have either moved on or are having their fun in the ugly man psyop thread, and it is nice to have more chill discussions

No. 2082093

I wish western feminists would cancel scrotes like the based korean feminists do. The pro/anti nonsense is so useless when shadman is still allowed to have a platform, like so many other degenerate scrotes like goosework. Meanwhile, korean feminists managed to cull the most prolific and famous lolifag, the guy behind the shitty ''uoh'' meme. The faggot got banned so many times he had to drop his fanbox and completly stop drawing nsfw lolishit. He recently tweeted that he was going to stop drawing, too. Lmao, get fucked.

No. 2082096

>>2082093
lol based, any screenshots? That also brings a question to mind though, what ever happened with that limbus company(?) drama? I remember a Korean woman got hit by strays for a tweet about something she didn’t even draw.

No. 2082122

>>2081657
Otome leddit and twitter has milk usually. From the usual, trannies pissed and "muah body dismorphia i can't self insert to a female heroine" (in an otome game) to schizo husbando fighting.

No. 2082133

>>2082093
Fuck, i wish we were as vicious as them, it's completely possible. I know korean feminists are also famous for closing popular korean prohibited pornography website that was working for more than a decade. They actually fucking closed it, it's possible. They're inspiring, i love them.
>>2082096
She was fired ("voluntarily left", lmao), sadly. I don't think anything happened later? Everything just kinda stopped after that.

No. 2082139

>>2082096
> any screenshots?
some anon posted screenshots itt a while ago, i will see if i can find them. But tl;dr: feminists got dorontabi fired from working for major gacha games because they exposed his tweets where he would post irl children(those disgusting ''junior idols'' and models from russia).

No. 2082143

>>2082093
western feminists are too worried about coddling trannies and accepting sex workers to even go against men. Shit is pathetic here

No. 2082144

>>2080885
This bridget is so perfect, and I am salty af this isnt canon right now.

No. 2082145

>>2081066
>I will put a whole room lego carpet in Daisuke Ishiwatari's bedroom.
Based. Let me join you.

No. 2082202

>>2081066
>he loved Dizzy
That shit made me cringe ngl

No. 2082279

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>>2082093
>He recently tweeted that he was going to stop drawing, too.
not really

No. 2082292

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>>2082279
I missed this comment

No. 2082393

>>2082202
i agree, dizzy is a hot garbage character. her design is embarrassing and i find it hard to understand how any character is supposed to like her, she acts like a genuine retard and floats around in her panties like a pervert.

No. 2082422

>>2078122
Wouldnt it be good representation for FtM's that dont want to get their tits chopped off just to leave Yamato as they are?
I mean I don't believe in the whole gendie nonsense but its a shame that the character they project as being nonbinary/transmasc they're not allowed to have breasts.

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>>2082086
Personally the worst type of drama I see is genderspecials trying to rebrand otome to include their gender religion and pronouns lipservice, and shitting on sane games for not having such crap. But these clowns havs been around for quite a while and "inclusivity" discourse has become quite common and is ignored by most normie players, you'll just occasionally see politically correct otome bloggers say something in their reviews about the game needing to be more inclusive, kek. Picrel is your average leddit genderist from 3 years ago and it's still pretty much the same.

No. 2082596

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There are these retard posters at both otome and bl subs. I thought they were baiting but actually they weren't. That cow is kind of milky but i think he's a baiting scrote or legit retarded.

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No. 2082600

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Lol

No. 2082603

>>2082596
Average gooner husbandofag train of thought, no form of media can ever be enjoyed if they can't explicitly self insert and due to the smug feeling of superiority for preferring Christ-approved straight romance they can't fuck off to play an entire genre filled with het romance and sex scenes but instead demand a completely different form of media to pander to their needs. But if some genderspecial Aiden wants otome to have a cuntboy male option for muh ~inclusivity~ in yume garbo they go psycho ripping her apart immediately for tarnishing their fantasies with faggotry kek

>That cow is kind of milky but i think he's a baiting scrote or legit retarded.

Sadly I know people like this, they exist.

No. 2082607

>>2082597
why do they write like 12 year olds?

No. 2082617

>>2082596
this girl never left 2012

No. 2082635

>>2070163
Can we talk about the pregnancy fetish this person has

No. 2082640

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>lived in US
that means he's trans

No. 2082647

>>2082596
Can you link the post? I wanna read the comments.

No. 2082651

>>2082603
OP is a tranny scrote not a tradthot husbandofag…

No. 2082655

>>2082651
Source? Browsing her post history she's just an autistic Brazilian yume self-inserting into femMC from P3 to ship herself with Ryoji. Sounds like a routine husbandofag to me, not a tranny.

No. 2082658


No. 2082660

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>non binary rep!
>eh anon actually the original Japanese word means androgynous
>translator did such a great job then!

No. 2082664

>>2082658
>She's a mod of the sub
What the fuck

No. 2082666

https://www.reddit.com/r/otomegames/s/b8XnHXH3Qp

this post is very milky(this is an imageboard)

No. 2082712

>>2082279
he completly nuked his fanbox and hasnt drawn nsfw loli since he got called out by the korean feminists lmfao now he only uploads shitty sketches once in a while

No. 2082731

>>2082640
>constantly pissed, with the ability to magically burn off any amount of doughnuts he eats? Yeah, that's testosterone, dude
Male character being affected by testosterone = he must be trans? kek what

Somewhat related, but I'm so tired of posts 'analysing' characters or that are disguised as meta but are really just headcanons that border on delusion glutting up fandom tags/discussion. Picrel is like 'here are the reasons for my tranny headcanon' and then proceeds to list… more headcanons as justification. Retarded.

No. 2082766

>>2082596
What's up with braindead otome game and just female husbandofags and this emoji? They always spam it? The ones who aren't retarded never use it.

No. 2082817

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>>2082666
All of this sounds annoying as hell. why does anything aimed at women (OSA no less) need to include everything under the sun? Why can't something cater to one audience and be done with it? and lol at the galge answer. Maybe the real reason is scrotes will tell you to fuck off with your IDpol whinging and go in your own lane as you should. Not trying to be "queerphobic" or whatever, but does it bother anyway else that female spaces can let post like these happen but in a male one, the person gets laughed out of the room. It's like everyone can't stand up straight.
I and many others want media aimed at them with themes to resonate with women not whether or not being ace is totes valid or something.
It should be a miracle that amare's taking off becuase I'm tired of this drivel.

No. 2082863

>>2082817
>>2082596

Otome are not for trannies.
Yaoi are not for faggots.
They're made for women by women.
For female entertainment and female masturbation.

No. 2082884

>>2082817
They always use women's spaces as dumping grounds for undesirables because we're socialized to be nice. We all need to start being mean assholes to these people, that's the only way we can protect our spaces.

No. 2082898

>>2082863
this is why the west can't handle joseimuke and by extension anything japan makes because cultural differences inadvertently breed divide and self-entitlement. It can't just be a simple otome in the west, characters with atypical pronoun usage and presentations need to be localized as genderspecial to appease a small fraction of the human population. You can't just have yaoi, it has to have fakeboi representation or it's totes problematic. Every time a western company tries to appeal to women, they always shit the bag and end up decentering women in some shape or form by shoving in wokeslop. I don't mind seeing lesbians and bi women in female-aimed content but having the whole TQA posse for no reason besides the faintest abstraction of inclusivity.
>>2082884
As much as I hate scrotes, I wish more women take a page from their gatekeeping handbook and drive these people out. I'm so sick and tired of every space with women needed to tiptoe on eggshells to make a small portion of retards placated. I had to leave several after the pick me-ism became too much to bear on top of all the virtue-signalling.

No. 2082954

>>2082863
yaoi is ackshully gay porn and in glorious nippon men consume and create it

No. 2082960

>>2082954
the only moid i have seen make yaoi was a guy who's married and has children, funnily enough

No. 2082963

>>2082884
>>2082898
Yes. Reading these reddit replies the women there are way too nice to them. I know that they'd get banned if they replied to them as they should and some are also chasing karma there lol, so don't want to risk ban, but still should reply to them in very blunt way fuck them off.

No. 2082966

>>2082960
Some people just want to see if they can write a good one, I guess.

No. 2082967

>>2082966
i think hes just a fujo simp his yuri manga has like 5 fujo characters

No. 2082984

>>2082954
You mistook it with bara

No. 2082993

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>reddit nona turning the tables on them in the least rude way
>they're ganging up attacking her and pulling the victimu cardo

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>>2082993
>aksually-

No. 2082995

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>>2082994
>swarming like roaches

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>>2082995
>hurting fee fees

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>>2083011
>scrotes mentioned

No. 2083018

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>>2083014
>who's more retarded

has a point about misogyny though

No. 2083019

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>>2083018
>rescue this reddit nona

No. 2083023

>>2083011
Least misogynistic TRA

No. 2083038

>>2082995
Goes to show they don't see characters as characters but as little dolls meant to be a mirror for them to project into.

No. 2083230

>>2082279
>>2082292
kek so just a big nothingburger.

>>2082712
>completly nuked his fanbox
yeah but he still has his job according to his tweets, wasn't the whole point of the call-out to get him fired? something like "since women were unfairly fired, men should also be fired." his pixiv is still up, his twitter is still up, his gelbooru page with +500 posts is still up. they only got him to nuke his fanbox which, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure it wasn't his main source of income anyways.

No. 2083481

>>2080374
> These "progressive" trannies have shut down any discussion about the objectification of women in media far more effectively than incels or rightoids ever did and I fucking hate it

There’s something to be said about much more effective progressivism is at censorship or justifying bigotry. Just recent Nazis tried to make the protocols of Zion mainstream but the whining pro=Palestinian leftists were more bigoted and effective. Or how they claim punctuality or caring about education is white supremacy, compared to literal white supremacists who openly call for genocide against the groups they hate. I hate the modern discourse. Sorry for rambling

No. 2083488

>>2080548
I don’t. It sucks but all the old forums are dead and modern social media moves too fast, too preachy with ugly race fanart, or degrades into discourse. I’ve outgrown it, but I miss the good old days

No. 2083493

>>2082093
Western feminist are more offended if you roll your eyes at Taylor Swift than literal child porn online. Just ban/block these men instead

No. 2083592

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What if you're a fujo radfem like me though

No. 2083594

>>2083592
Gendies are giga-retarded and can't even comprehend that the "joshi" in fujoshi necessitates that the person be female because acknowledging that would be transphobic.

No. 2083704

>>2083011 Kabedon nonny a little silly using "queer" but based otherwise, >>2083019 lostpoint nona is fully badass and deserves to escape the preddit hellhole. It also gives me hope how the majority of the voters in >>2082597 went "lol nah I'll just play otome to date men as a woman", common sense still prevails even if most women are scared to openly say no to the gendergoons.

No. 2083727

>>2083592
There is plenty of ryona for you to enjoy.

No. 2083730

>>2083704
No matter how right she is, i can't take women who are using queer and gendie vocabulary and pronouns seriously.

No. 2083755

>>2083592
I can't believe yaoi is terf now, what the hell is yaoicore though KEK

No. 2083804

>>2083592
not a radfem, but consuming yaoi is based. Love it when men are on the receiving end of the sexualization stick. We need more that stuff.

No. 2083831

>>2083592
why does everything need to be a ''core'' now

No. 2083891

>>2082984
nah there are plenty of male bl consumers and authors. it isn’t some feminist space it is literally just gay porn in japan. the women (and men) creating the yaoi you consoom generally aren’t going into it with the mindset that it’s a hallowed feminist womyn space they’re just thinking “sweet! gay porn!”

No. 2083971

fandom dot com got an ugly mobile redesign and now its unusable on pc. God i hate mobilefags so fucking much.

No. 2083980

>>2083971
if there was some way that you could make your website inaccessible from mobile devices, you would avoid 90% of retards and children interacting with your stuff kek. Funny how that works. Smartphones were the biggest mistake ever created.

No. 2083990

>>2083891
but yaoi appeals to women whereas bara appeals to men? I can get men entering the space if their type of men barely appears in the latter, but why though? Because it got men in it?

No. 2083993

>>2083891
that's a long way to say you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

No. 2084002

>>2083993
You have neither

No. 2084011

>>2083891
It kind of did start that way in the 70s though.
>nah there are plenty of male bl consumers and authors
But they're not the majority

No. 2084013

>>2083891
please enlighten me, where are those male bl authors you speak of?

No. 2084014

>>2083891
>nah there are plenty of male bl consumers
TIFs arent men

No. 2084023

>>2084013
here’s a small sampling: https://blnews.chil-chil.net/newsDetail/18790/. they are tough to find for reasons that may be obvious (homophobia) but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. can’t find the twitter thread right now but a bl author posted a long thread on how many gay guys who do bl write under (female) aliases to avoid harassment

No. 2084030

>>2084023
>Osamu Tezuka
>Fucking Gengoroh Tagame
>Nagabe's furshit
Okay…

No. 2084039

>>2084023
none of that minus boku to is bl, its all barashit

No. 2084041

>>2084030
Samefag but the site itself even admits right in the article that 90% of the mangaka featured on chilchil are women lmaoooo

No. 2084051

>>2084041
i wasn’t trying to deny that women are the majority, i was simply pointing out that there is a sizeable # of dudes into bl and nobody in japan moralfags or politicizes about their 2d smut. i get tired of the moralfagging and high horsing about porn here

No. 2084053

>>2084048
there was literally someone moralfagging in the comments about how men shouldn't be allowed to publish bl. there is no sizeable amount of men making bl, the article mentioned it's a small minority and their examples were bara, furryshit and osamu tezuka

No. 2084056

>>2083592
This is funny because while I know some GC fujos personally, most radfems in my experience hate yaoi because "it's porn aimed at women and problematic". Real feminists don't care about fanfiction.

No. 2084071

>>2084051
It's so sizable that they had to find fringe furshit that can't be called BL by an definition and literal barashit to round out a list of TWELVE male authors. Everyone knows male authors are a tiny minority and this is acknowledged by everyone except the most delusional faghags who seethe at the fact that a gay porn industry controlled completely by women exists.

No. 2084076

Ngl mot into furshit but I like Nagabe. His art is very moody.

No. 2084124

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>>2083038
Not uncommon, most of the time moids relate with characters like picrel. But at least they don't do it for "trans/gender envy".

No. 2084328

>>2083755
>>2084056
That image is saying people who are against fujoshi are radfems.

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It's crazy that people still give a shit about Naruto let alone think that Sakura is a great character.
https://www.tumblr.com/sakuratruther

No. 2084403

>>2084328
We could unironically weaponize this with the combined power of our autism kek

No. 2084417

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>>2084401
lmao what has SHE been reading?

No. 2084421

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>>2084417
Sasuke is max level tsundere

No. 2084423

>>2084421
>h-how dare they headcanon the girl as just their bestie and not a love interest!!!!!! be normal about women for once!!!
hetfags are so tiring

No. 2084437

>>2084421
Feminism is when you prioritize fictional female characters written by men over real women enjoying content made by women for women, lmao okay. I wish these people can just be honest with themselves for once and be like hey i like this F/M ship dni if you don't, it's that easy

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>>2084423
Angry yurifags are even funnier to me.

No. 2084493

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https://x.com/JulishyArt/status/1810768129607528864
Found this while scrolling through an Ao3 search on Xitter. Someone drew fanart for a fic and is getting dragged because 'orientalism', aka putting the blonde dude in that outfit. The quotes, too, are just filled with 'kys', it's pretty deranged.

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>>2084493
did the artist delete the post? i don't see how an anime boy wearing skimpy clothes is racist

No. 2084536

>>2084473
> two male characters that you yuri-fy
Ngl I feel called out because I used to write OC yuri content where the leads were usually shameless female ripoffs of male characters that I liked kek. Maybe that's what the kind of thing they're referring to?

No. 2084538

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>>2084493
These dumbasses never have the same energy for stuff moids enjoy like picrel

No. 2084547

>>2084536
I think they either mean that or when people ship two female characters so they don't get in the way of the gay ship that they actually care about sort of thing.

No. 2084554

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>>2084515
Looks like she did. Unfortunate for her but unsurprising, they were sperging extra hard. It's honestly fascinating to see as an outsider to the community, I honestly would not have imagined a picture like that being capable of spawning such vitriol.

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>>2084536
My first thought was actual m/m couples that twitter users just call lesbians without changing anything like picrel but it seems like OP has an issue with genderbends. I don't think liking a female version of a male character means you don't like female characters though. It's obvious why people would prefer more developed characters (like Dabi/Hawks who play a big role in the story) over actual extras with no screentime

No. 2084570

>>2084554
i just know that none of these people telling her to kill herself have ever faced racism in their lives.

No. 2084582

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>men are inherently more sexual and disgusting than us pure women
It's true though, and I don't give two fucks about Dunmeshi.

No. 2084593

>>2084582
dunmeshi continues to attract the most annoying people online

No. 2084596

>>2084593
That's basically true for every isekai+native isekai.

No. 2084606

>>2084582
How is that terfy at all? I know it's a meme gendies call everyone bad a terf or every problem is because of the terfs, but that's just fairly normal observations from any non normie non pickme woman

No. 2084609

>>2084606
I think it just comes down to people don't want to accept that most people in fandoms for shows that aren't full moeshit or super moidy shounen are women.

No. 2084621

>>2084582
>terfy to say it's just a fetish for mlm shippers
Incredible how quickly things change

No. 2084624

>>2084621
It's considered terfy now because they think all girls who read BL are fakeboi eggs.

No. 2084625

>>2084056
Most rfs I know don’t care about or even like yaoi, only polilez tumblrtards get heated over yaoi

No. 2084641

>>2084624
Kekkk I wonder if any TIFs are reading this and malding because they're being lumped in with the ICKY DISGUSTING FUJOS

No. 2084702

>>2084596
>Native Isekai
So like….fantasy?

No. 2084748

>>2084582
I know I'm supposed to enjoy fandoms for myself and never care what anyone else thinks but I got turned off dunmeshi for these kinds of things just like genshin. I don't want to even draw or be associated with a retard fandom full of retards, trannies and groomlings. I could be missing out on some things but I can't bring myself to give a shit when interacting with the fandom in any way shape or form is like walking into a special ed class

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>>2084748
I love dunmeshi, I have for years and have been following the author closely since the ending. I don't plan to stop those things but the anime fandom it has attracted are some of the most absofuckinglutely obnoxious virtue signaling ugly washers and turbo aggressive seething political yurifags. It's a shame, but I just complete ignore and avoid the fandom now. Hopefully in time it will heal but it sucks when things were really comfy and relatively sane before.
I have been wearing a related cosplay the last couple years to local cons/renfests but the online fandom has been so radioactively offensive to me that I'm probably gonna mothball it for at least a year. It used to be so lovely to find other fans but I don't want to interact with any of these new people.

No. 2084904

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Not sure if this is the right place to discuss this but I know a few Ranfren readers browse here. Captainhowdie recently updated her Terms of Service page and it seems like she is attempting to forbid NSFW work of Ranfren now. Incredibly retarded move and it seems like the way it's worded is her weak attempt to try to scare her audience of zoomies from making bad Ranfren porn kek. Apparently some Ranfren NSFW artists are already getting shit for this. I'd really like to see her try to attempt to enforce this but she's probably just going to rely on her audience of braindead teens to bully artists.

No. 2084906

>>2084904
She's at least 5 years too late but I'm not mad at this, most NSFW Ranfren works are absolutely shit tier cringe with the exception of one VK artist who would probably tell retards to fuck off if they harass them.
Besides I'm pretty sure this is a response to the constant nagging about the Randal daki, picrel

No. 2084907

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>>2084906
dropped pic

No. 2084911

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>>2084907
Wrong image? That drawing is pretty old and actually by one of Howdie's old friends, a TIF that goes by danielcalmdown. Howdie has drawn Daniel's OC with Randal years back. Pic related

The drawing was reblogged by Howdie herself here: https://captainhowdie.tumblr.com/post/114690731235/danielcalmdown-it-was-really-fun-to-draw-its

I do want to see the cringe daki though if that's what caused her to instate this rule.

No. 2084914

>>2084911
Nah zoomers were shitting themselves over this drawing and the fact that she reblogged it. Yes, that are actually that fucking retarded to sperg out at her for that

No. 2084915

>>2084593
thats no wonder considering everyone in that show is obnoxious too.

No. 2084918

>>2084914
Ah, okay. Zoomies dregging up old, insignificant shit as usual to try to cancel creators. I assumed it was going to be zoomers getting mad over a really ugly Randal daki someone is trying to sell on Etsy or something kek.

No. 2084929

>>2084904
>it's worded is her weak attempt to try to scare her audience of zoomies from making bad Ranfren porn kek.
i dont think its that, considering she retweets catmen art from jap yumes all the time more so its over artists not getting cancelled over it.i know one fanartist who drew adult ranfren porn being called a pedo despite her clarifying she ages up the characters so it could be shes trying to keep her fanbase safe

No. 2084934

>>2084582
>Dungeon Meshi has a terf problem
Good!

No. 2084937

>>2084929
The part where she asks people to follow Canadian law is the part that I find questionable. I know that they have laws against shota/loli there but people outside of Canada don't have to follow Canadian law. It's honestly really stupid reasoning for the ban. You're probably right though that she also probably wants to protect people in her fandom. She's approaching her mid-30s and has to deal with a fanbase that's mainly teens and early 20s women who say the most deranged things to her and try to create drama. I can imagine that might cause some stress to her.

No. 2084951

>>2084937
>You're probably right though that she also probably wants to protect people in her fandom.
It sounds more like some type of anxiety to me rather than wanting to protect people, maybe she saw something and thought it was uncomfortable

No. 2085012

>>2084929
>called a pedo despite her clarifying she ages up the characters
That's just standard Twitter fare at this point, sadly

No. 2085032

Is the ranfren creator a troon now? I thought she was just your average imageboard oldfag until I checked her steam and it had boygirl as a past name or some shit.

No. 2085064

>>2085032
She's a typical FtM fujoshi, I think she's been that way for a while but didn't talk about it much

No. 2085069

>>2084904
>If there is a fan project or act of using the characters in a way I don't agree with, I can stop it at any time.
What does she mean by that? Realistically, how can she stop anything like that? If someone wants to make a Ranfren plush and film themselves shoving it up their ass or something, what can she actually do? Or does this only apply to commercial fan works?

No. 2085091

>>2084582
TRA fujos should just grow tougher skins and stand their ground on shipping BL and keep to their space.

No. 2085243

>>2084473
New generation angry yurifags mystify me because back in the 00's and 10's himejos were usually turbo autistic and horny but relatively chill and minding their own business, yet now we have a fucking community filled with unhinged polilezzies constantly screaming and shitting their pants about f/f not getting as many fics on AO3 as m/m ships, complain about fujos being "misogynistic" for not being into their femships and yelling LESBIAN REPRESENTATION!!!! at any unapologetic coomershit directed towards men. It directly corresponds to the rise of "trans lesbians" and many times when you see someone parroting the rhetoric described they have a trans flag on their bio (or a k-pop PFP) so make of that what you will.

No. 2085248

>>2085032
She goes by as a they/them "agender" more specifically.

No. 2085295

>>2085243
These people make it hard to be into men. Can't even fall back on that excuse because apparently sexuality is fluid and straight women can enjoy yuri somehow. Most may relate to women, but they prefer if the other partner was at least a male and not another woman. It's less relatable once things become generally romantic and the likelihood of taking something out of it lessens over time. I can handle some f/f, but I hate how it's written, so I stick to m/m and f/m only. My preferences and others' is not indicative of some conspiracy against "lesbians". Some people don't see the appeal in f/f, and that's perfectly fine. One shouldn't force somebody to write what they want or risk turning a hobby such as fanfiction into a content mill.

No. 2085303

>>2085069
She can't do anything which is why I find this whole section retarded. She is acting like she has some sort of authority over what others can do when she is just a poor, mentally ill hikkiNEET.

No. 2085306

>>2084582
My god, young fujos need to stop being such pushovers and tell political yurifags to suck a tit and shut the fuck up with none of this weird ass pathologizing derailment. It's one thing to discuss the treatment of female characters in fandoms but using how rabid you are over a female character vs a male character as a baseline to assess how you treat women in real life is absolute lunacy and really shows how far removed zoomers are from reality to the point they treat fictional characters like real people, and not fictional facsimiles born out of a single person's mind. Like in one of my fandoms you got unironically called a misogynist for hating a character that looks like the most scrotish gooning fantasy design you could imagine.

>>2085295
Let's be real, most of these yurifags (who aren't trannies) are male-repulsed straight girls i.e. polilezzies. That said, it doesn't matter which sexuality you are, you can enjoy a well written romance or enjoy a good ship no matter if it's m/f, f/f or m/m unless you're a raging homophobe because at least personally I don't have to self-insert like a loser or compulsively masturbate to the sex I'm attracted to. It's just a fact that a lot of mainstream yuri is born bland and only appeals to a very specific demographic instead of a more wider audience, especially because yurifags lack the charisma, dedication and sense of community people like fujos have built for decades.

No. 2085313

>>2085243
Honestly I think most of these yurifags are TIMs, I swear 80% of the time I find a "lesbian" online it turns out to be a man in a skirt.
There are some actual discussion happening, but their train of thought went into a "There's no fanworks related to female characters = Misogyny (which can be true at times, but mostly on how fandom treat male vs female characters, specially when it comes to morally dubious ones)" so "Less f/f works than m/m ones = Misogyny" pipeline. Which makes no sense.

No. 2085320

>>2085313
Most of them are troons, I was wondering why none of these she/her "lesbians" with anime PFPs had no IRL photos like most girls regardless of sexuality post but only cooming over anime lesbians laced with extreme male-coded aggression and entitlement while screeching about "misogyny" (i.e. female fans drawing fanart of bishounens), scrolling their feed soon exposed them as trannies due to mentioning HRT or other telltale signs. They just successfully co-opted the discourse about the lack of interesting female characters and turned it into "you prefer a male character over my coomwaifu so you're a misogynist".

No. 2085321

>>2084904
i hate ranfren, its so zoomery and retarded. I dont understand the appeal. The only mildly cute character is randall but TIFs crucify you for lewding him for some reason.

No. 2085362

>>2085321
> The only mildly cute character is randall but TIFs crucify you for lewding him for some reason.
because that version of him is 13

No. 2085374

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>>2084904
Just noticed she seems to have added this to the site recently. She probably has already had too many encounters with deranged zoomers at this point. I've seen too many teens poorly cosplaying as Satoru or Randal and cutting themselves. Imagine what she gets in her inbox.

No. 2085394

>>2085321
It's so weird because my experience is the exact opposite. I haven't seen anyone blowing a gasket about lewding Randal and there's tons of JP and Russian fans that make lovely art. Feels like a lower concentration of annoying TIFs and zoomers compared to my past fandoms

No. 2085416

>>2083990
yaoi may appeal to women more due to it the overwhelming female authors and it being a subgenre of shoujo, but genuinely how many gay/bi men even in Japan, prefer Bara? or technically geicomic as it's called. I doubt all gay dudes in Japan are into super muscular bears. fudanshis both consumers and writers may be in the minority but they exist. even the ones who keep their gender secret could potentially be men too

No. 2085427

>>2084904
I don't know if she might have something against R-18 fanart personally or not, but that shit is illegal in Canada so this could be just to cover her ass.

No. 2085446

>>2085416
You first need to take into account that gay men are already a tiny minority in the genpop, now you have to narrow it down to gay guys who are nerdy and into animanga, and then you have to narrow it down even further into nerdy gay guys who don't just satisty their lust from IRL sex/IRL porn, and then you narrow it down even further to gay guys who can stomach the rather "fem-brained" depictions of gay male sex common in yaoi enough to call themselves fan. You're working with a really negligible pool. The whole reason geicomi was created in the first place was because gay men in Japan didn't jive with the depictions of gay relations through the female lens.

No. 2085458

>>2085243
>>2085306
The annoying ones I see complaining about lack of wlw content are always coming from agp TIMs who are repulsed by straight content or anything involving males. Don't know why you would attribute these annoying types to "polilezzies" when those are the ones who would be repulsed by yuri and would rather read yaoi.

No. 2085460

>>2085427
It is actually not illegal to draw porn in Canada unless a minor is being depicted. Randal is definitely coded as a minor though even if Howdie did canonically say he is ageless so, yeah, she is likely covering her ass and trying to save herself from future trouble.

No. 2085501

>>2085362
why? he looks so old though did howdie slap that age into her blorbo so no one could lewd him

No. 2085514

File: 1720718809215.png (475.58 KB, 813x1097, callout.PNG)

>>2085394
Because that entire part of the fanbase left when the big callout doc dropped in early 2022. It mentions things such as Nyens old design from 2012 where he is fully black with only his features left uninked being blackface, his current one referencing Nevada-tan (I don't know why that's an issue and the doc doesn't say), having Randall say "hey my nigga, what's up" in one old comic, the ratmen obviously being racist asian caricatures, howdie having a link to Elliot Rodger's manifesto on the website, posting about BL and then about a school shooting memorial the next day, howdie being anti-semitic for including a swastika in a drawing of a oujia board and lastly making art of Luther x Randall and reblogging picrel as >>2084911 said. New english-speaking fans who use twitter that are made aware of this doc apparently leave the fandom quickly so it has no chance to grow but I guess tiktok zoomers have an easier time ignoring it since it's such a fragmented platform.
https://x.com/lucid236/status/1491039514122682371

No. 2085528

>>2085501
He's always been an ambiguously-aged teen. It always made me wonder if Howdie is a closeted shotacon since she's always fixated on young-looking anime boys like Bedman, Bridget, Kokichi, and the boys from the Mother series.

No. 2085597

>>2084582
If there really were terfs in the Dunmeshi fandom I'd actually read it and join ASAP. I've mainly just been seeing monster girldick shit and boypussy mpreg from osmosis on Twitter. Gross. Also none of these things are "terfy" rhetoric at all.

No. 2085616

>>2085597
The fandoms people say have a TERF problem literally never have a TERF problem, literal schizo behavior. The only fandom that might have a sizable amount of cryptos is Enshitmble Stars but even then it's not even worth it when 99% of the other fans are gonna chimp out at you over Arashi.

No. 2085661

>>2085616
Back when the Limbus Company controversy happened, I was pretty surprised that some of moidy series fanartists I followed retweeted korean feminism and terf stuff. Deleted any LC stuff they had and never looked back.

No. 2085669

>>2085597
>>2085616
What these people perceive as "TERFs" aren't really the same as how we define them, they're talking about the baby polilez rudefems who hound fujos like they were paid for it and always accuse them of misogyny and being troon eggs.

No. 2085690

>>2085669
Which is funny because those fujo haters complaining about muh women representation are 50/50 split between AGP troons and female polilez yurifags who would rather side with said troons than other women.

No. 2085697

>>2085616
I've literally never seen a fandom that has a large amount of TERFs. Usually the fandoms people claim are full of TERFs are just full of normies and normie transphobes. Anyone who isn't into standard wokeism these days are called TERFs.

No. 2085706

Terfs in fandom this, terfs in fandom that. What are some actual fandoms that have a sizable proportion of terfs in them other than hp?

No. 2085710

>>2085706
Most terfs in fandom spaces tend to be crypto so idk, vocal terfs usually don't post any fandom shit on their blogs.

No. 2085718

>>2085514
Man I don't give a fuck about any of that. Good riddance to the annoying people though

No. 2085887

>>2085706
There aren't even a large amount of TERFs in the HP fandom kek everyone there constantly virtue signals about how much they hate JKR. Most people aren't going to be open TERFs in the first place if they're heavily active in fandom spaces. I know some cryptos and they're huddled in their own small circles and only make transphobic posts that can be played off as jokes making fun of 14 year old xenogender people.

No. 2086189

>>2085706
overwatch attracts a lot of them for some reason, despite being a pro-trans ip. Terfs love moira

No. 2086714

>>2085243
It's because yuri and BL fans didn't have to interact that often up until now
Mostly due to there being more variety in shows made for women and shows made for men.

No. 2086723

File: 1720810564125.png (400.63 KB, 630x577, really.png)

What does Madoka have to do with a coomer mahou shoujo exactly? Coomer mahou shoujo series for moids have been a thing since the 70s anyway (cutie honey)

No. 2086734

>>2086723
Madoka magica was made by lolicons, so i get them.

No. 2086738

>>2086734
Most anime period is, including mahou shoujo for little kids.

No. 2086741

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>>2086738
True, they have also been pandering to otakus since the 80s.

No. 2086744

>>2086741
And that's why I get annoyed when people shit on Madoka in specific by comparing it to obvious fapbait anime like mahou ako and shows for toddlers like precure.
I really don't give a shit if the anime is made by lolicons or not because almost every show is, I care whether it's a good anime or not.

No. 2086752

>>2086744
anime is a medium made by men for men, with one or two shows every 10 years actually meant for women. I know it's defeatists, but this is a moid's world and men are always meant to be the target audience of almost everything ever

No. 2086755

>>2086752
I don't think a show being made for men automatically makes it bad or means that women can't enjoy it. Most of my favorite anime/manga (that isn't BL) is seinen anyway.

No. 2086757

>>2086755
i didnt say it was a bad thing, i just said that most stuff is meant to be for men. Women who grasp at straws trying to paint meduka as a feminist anime when its made by 5 lolicons are actually cringe beyond words.

No. 2086766

>>2086757
>i just said that most stuff is meant to be for men
Ah my bad then.
>Women who grasp at straws trying to paint meduka as a feminist anime
Personally I don't think I've seen any visual media that I would actually consider feminist. Some books sure but I don't think I've seen a tv show (animated or otherwise) that I personally consider feminist, I don't particularly care about that anyway though I just think Madoka is a genuinely fantastic anime.

No. 2086873

>>2084493
>>2084515
shouldn't the real issue be the obvious paedophilia?

No. 2086877

>>2086873
what pedophilia? that guy looks like the most generic skinny bishie ever

No. 2086879

>>2083804
Obviously, I personally love seeing them forced to get pregnant. It's so humiliating. like can you imagine having the ability to give birth being exploited against you and used for your oppression? It would be so humiliating, good thing there aren't a class of human beings that actually go through this(bait)

No. 2086884

>>2084493
We're a long, long way from retro fujos and the surprise "Saudi Arabian prince with giant pet tiger and bodyguards kidnaps the mc and forces him into sexy belly dancer outfits" trope.

No. 2086889

>>2086879
Talk to your doctor about upping the dose of meds. Whatever they give you, it's clearly not enough.

No. 2086908

>>2086884
The current focus has shifted towards Russian mobsters, both for het and bl stuff

No. 2086914

>>2086908
I hate the fact that I can't like manhwas no matter how hard I try. I just can't handle the drawing style and the bright colors. I'm sure some of them have good stories, but I just can't take them seriously. The only manhwa I have read was Killing Stalking when I was 13, after that I tried to get into that world but I just couldn't.

No. 2086919

>>2086914
I tried rereading Killing Stalking recently, but I just could not handle the random 3D assets. They always took me out and would bother me

No. 2086923

>>2086914
manwhas are the anime equivalent of calarts in western animation. Insanely ugly mass produced style for retards.

No. 2086925

>>2086914
One of my favorite manhwas is Concubine Walkthrough it also has bright colors but a rather unique color palette and style. Maybe you'll like it. It starts out as sword art online, but with palace drama and some seemingly unhealthy romance instead of fighting (it is not the "ahkshually she just needed to act better so he wouldn't abuse her" trope I swear) but has tons of plot twists and one of the most insane but well executed endings. Maybe you can give it a chance. I mainly want to talk about it with nonnies though, kek.

No. 2086926

>>2086919
I'm sure that if I were to read KS again today I would also dislike it because of that. One thing that bothers me is that the things you thought were amazing when you were younger aren't actually as amazing as you thought they were. And that feeling becomes even stronger when you are an artist who became better over time.

No. 2086928

>>2086908
this video is cringe in a bad way

No. 2086935

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>>2086914
The only manhwa I've been able to finish were Bastard, I Love Amy, and Roach. Bastard had some really noticable 3d asset use that took me out of the story at times but other than that it's not the worst

No. 2086941

>>2086925
>>2086935
Thanks for the recommendations nonnies, I'll give them a try.

No. 2086954

>>2086914
Almost all fiction made in Korea comes off as soulless and manufactured to me. Kpop, kdramas, webtoons, it's the same shit.

No. 2086967

File: 1720824080367.jpg (249.59 KB, 914x1113, style.JPG)

>>2086925
samefag, picrel shows the style. I honestly think it's beautiful. Appreciating details also pays off, as many minor details foreshadow a lot of the twists later on.

No. 2086970

File: 1720824152869.png (86.03 KB, 951x580, coping hard.png)

Holy fuck this cope

No. 2086976

>>2086970
Kek I feel like this is directly Addy's fault

No. 2086981

File: 1720824529075.png (271.23 KB, 726x805, or she's just a typical menher…)

>>2086976
Kek it's possible it further highlighted it but this coping has been going on for a few days, particularly with redditors coping about their waifu.

No. 2086982

>>2086976
addy is such a funny sperg. She literally cosplays characters from eroges that have sex with shotas and shills saya no uta, but her blorbo hinting at being a shotafujo is just too much for her.

No. 2086984

File: 1720824750643.gif (2.47 MB, 498x498, 1000005090.gif)

>>2086981
> MENTALLY ILL character has STRANGE and CREEPY preferences
Oh this poor oblivious male kekekekekek

No. 2086988

>>2086982
What’s wrong with liking the sfw Saya no uta

No. 2086989

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>>2086988
>sfw Saya no uta
Unless you mean the American comic book adaptation, that isn't a thing.

No. 2086992

>>2086989
Obviously I hate the original but this is so fucking cursed.

No. 2086995

>>2086989
No, I mean the edited version on steam that took the loli parts out. Is it really that terrible to be a fan of it? Isn’t the whole point of it supposed to be a horror story, not sexy?

No. 2086996

>>2086995
Kek it's still not SFW at all though
But personally I have no issue with someone being a fan of Saya.

No. 2086997

>>2086995
>Isn’t the whole point of it supposed to be a horror story, not sexy?
This may surprise you considering how incredibly naive you sound, but horror and sexual content are frequently paired together because people like that

No. 2087000

>>2086995
you can like it, but saya is meant to be a loli waifu. Otherwise she wouldnt be a kawiwi animu loli and it would be whatever this western abomination is >>2086989

No. 2087001

>>2086996
Well, I should specify as long as that person is a woman and isn't hypocritical about it I don't care.

No. 2087002

>>2086914
Just read Annarasumanara, it was made before the entire medium got ruined by mobile phone layouts and cgi model slop

No. 2087011

>>2070160
offtopic drama but the account who replied to that tweet used to be a TIF who ran a nazi fanblog on tumblr and posted "his cock" (very obviously not her cock) on KF to "prove he was male"

No. 2087014

>>2087011
Kek, I like how you just happen to know the lore.

No. 2087019

File: 1720826746084.jpg (28.59 KB, 567x592, 1000005092.jpg)

>>2087011
> Tfw a Nazi fetishist unironically gives Twitter weebs a reality check
Fuck me this timeline is bleak.

No. 2087191

>>2086914
This but with danmei. I've read 3 different danmei all by different authors and they all look and read exactly the same. How do people get addicted to this slop?

No. 2087427

>>2086723
>What does Madoka have to do with a coomer mahou shoujo exactly?
When it aired around 10~ years ago it had a large coomer male fanbase that negatively influenced the mahou shoujo fandom on tumblr. It also brought in many edgy fans who wanted all mahou shoujo to be like Madoka and who made edgy and lewd fanart of precure.
So now the fans who were left scarred by it a decade ago (lol) are reminded of that point in time whenever a new edgy/lewd/edgy-lewd mahou shoujo shows up.

No. 2087428

>>2086989
Is this real?

No. 2087430

File: 1720869220726.jpeg (51.04 KB, 443x693, images - 2024-07-13T211251.883…)

>>2087428
NTA but yes, unfortunately it's a sack of shit

No. 2087536

>>2087019
Is it a realitycheck though? This gimmick account posts characters that look gnc, the personality doesn't really matter in that regard.

No. 2087643

File: 1720891379991.png (1.22 MB, 640x1440, R3nVUDn.png)

What is wrong with western localizers? Why the fuck do they insist on shoving those goddamn stale twitter jokes into every single one of their fucking works?

No. 2087657

>>2087643
Aside from Nekomata calling the MC a fuckboy it's not actually that out of character from how demon negociation works in this series. Fire Emblem will always be worse. I'm using this comparison because of how the crossover game TMS or something like that got localized like a Fire Emblem game and not like a Megaten game, as in, very poorly.

No. 2087698

>>2087643
Same reason so many western vns or otomes are treated as ironic or jokes, everyone is scared of being genuine. Especially with games and anime since that's still seen as nerdy even though it's all mainstream

No. 2087720

>>2087698
how exactly are otomes mainstream? in my entire life i never meet someone who actually played an otome game.

No. 2087727

>>2087643
What twitter jokes? Isn't that just regular vulgar street talk that's basically directly translating their speech from the Japanese dialect?

No. 2087742

>>2087657
I remember as a kid I had to get a harpy for some reason in one of the games and they were all so mean to me.

No. 2087797

>>2087536
that man doesn't even look gnc though

No. 2087823

>>2087720
Gaming and anime as a whole are mainstream but western devs still treat everything related to or inspired by it like it's something to be embarrassed of

No. 2087834

>>2087698
>>2087823
Plus nerds desperately want to believe that they're still kwerky for liking basic normie anime kek

No. 2087884

File: 1720904352146.png (307.55 KB, 540x417, q6iFrnX.png)

>>2086926
I feel even as a kid I should have realized how poor the quality of some of the art is. like picrel doesn't seem to be an intentional art style, It's a result of laziness. I have a strong belief that in a few months most Korean artists will start using AI for their artwork as well

No. 2087945

>>2086995
Is there such a lack of decent media that people need to resort to liking pieces of censored coomer media? I lose respect for moralfags in the fandom that want to like fucked up shit but don't want to be associated with the bad parts. Just own up to it. You can like something and still admit it's fucked up and criticize it. Doing these mental hoops is Addy's tier of coping. We all like something with its issues, you can consume and enjoy them without being blind to them.
The need to come up with justifications feels like a consequence of the fandom callouts over absolutely nothing. They seemed to have reduced in numbers, but a few years ago there was a google doc callout of a hundred pages on every single nobody on the internet and it was always filled with the most petty minor thing on earth. At what point did we misunderstand the differences between criticizing something and labeling anyone who enjoys it to any extent a sinner? Any discussion in the fandom turns out to pointing fingers and calling names.

No. 2088197

>>2087884
In defense of Koogi, she had to dealt with tons of hand pain to update the comic as soon as possible even if many orthopedic surgeon told her to get a fucking rest (doesn't help neither that the fandom was quite horrible and ungrateful back then). And considering how WebToon is quite harsh with deadlines, I do believe that most Korean artist will start using AI for their artwork as well.

No. 2089291

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what does this even mean?

No. 2089294

>>2089291
i think it's those edgy tards that like putting a dark morbid spin on femininity, like that meme of "girls in love"

No. 2089310

>>2087884
kek i feel like some of the stories are already ai generated with how all these villainess manhwas read the exact same.

No. 2089328

>>2089291
op wants more dark stuff in yuri instead of just fluffy shit, this was by some shipping/oc account

No. 2089420

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>>2087643
I hate that these cherry picked, out of context caps are being passed around and made to look like as if they're just the same as replacing proper main story context with memes.

These caps are from demon negotiation dialogue from Shin Megami Tensei V. Demon negotiation is a mechanic you employ regularly to convince demons to join you or give you items. Through the series, demon negotiation always had silly and stupid dialogue to keep players amused and lighten up the tone of the games (since the main plots tend to be dark). In SMTV they went ham with localizing these dialogues but what they did is not out of place and doesn't take away from the main story (which sucks this time around).

No. 2089467

>>2087643
Has SMT not suffered enough? These are so bad

No. 2089470

can we talk about the straight isekai genre and how trash it is?

Literally almost every single isekai has one of these plots:

>Male lead is addicted to cheating

>Female lead goes through extreme emotional and physical abuse and trauma that at this point its torture-porn and martyr complex.
>Male lead abuses the female lead, has a mistress, and kills the female lead. Then the female lead gets isekaid into the past and tries to make him love her again or tries to get revenge but in the end still ends up with him and they live happily ever after.
>Stories where the female lead gets isekaid into the body of the mistress and ends up with the male lead.
>The male lead and female lead have a age gap where FL is teenager and ML is adult.
> Rich princess Female lead has a mysterious illness that makes her body weak and therefore all of the kingdom hates her and bullies her and she is so oppressed.
>the "interesting" quote that the male leads say about the female leads (the ones who get it get)
>the other female characters in this story only exist to either be characters whose sole existence is worshipping the female leads existence or being evil antagonists who want to homewreck the female leads relationship.

No. 2089485

>>2089470
I particularly don't understand whenever the MC kind of forgets she's not even from the world and then just acts like she's from that world, actually caring about the characters and such.
Like yeah, she can care about the characters because that means she's empathetic, but it's weird when the author just forgets that the MC isn't from the world of the story and she stops making plans or remembering the original plot of the story.

No. 2089489

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>>2089470
Isekai is really shitty, but is entertainment for moids so I really don't care about it.
I recommend .hack//SIGN, magic knight rayearth, the vision of escaflowne or digimon adventure.

No. 2089500

>>2089420
I get the outrage over localization and translations that drastically change a character's personality or plot points but anons who take everything at face value and call WOKE TWITTERFAG MEMES!!!! at literally anything including an SMT demon negotiation moment that has even appropriate amount of localization and is basically 1:1 to the original dialogue should go to reading machine translations if they want a soooper accurate faithful nipponese version and then cry about not understanding the context of the puns, cultural references and slang.

No. 2089505

>>2089489
when I said straight isekai I was talking about josei and shoujo, not the one for moids.

>>2089485
I think they just do for the plot, like a plot filler when they don't know how to make a certain action happen.

No. 2089546

>>2089291
I think this is just an edgy way of saying "yuri stories are boring, I wish things would get more extreme."
>>2089489
Moid isekai are way different from that. They're more
>"gets the chance to escape from slavery, sticks to being a servant for the mc because he's "nice" and has crazy superpowers that make him rich af
>mc is able to cook food for women and this is the sexiest thing they have ever seen in their lives
>They're all ridiculously sexually aggressive while the mc is complete herbivore because literally everything has to fall into the mc's lap

No. 2089582

>>2089470
almost everyone already knows those are usually trash, its pretty much like low effort mass produced fast food.

No. 2089593

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>>2089470
This one is quite different and I'm glad it got an anime adaptation.

No. 2089661

>>2089470
>>2089485
>>2089489
>>2089500
>>2089505
I feel like this discussion is better fit for the anime thread and not the fandom discussion thread

No. 2089795

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>>2089470
Because of so many isekais I have began to forget what actual pure fantasy animes are like
Western based high fantasy is a truly iconic part of anime history but the last decade has turned the settings and characters into a shallow skin that dozens of lazy shows simply wear as a costume with no soul. That's why I think Frieren is such a refreshing call back to the real heart of the genre that used to be taken more sincerely

No. 2089827

>>2089546
Ngl the fact the male protagonist is usually passive and cooks/cleans better than his female LI has the potential to be based kek. Too bad for all the other retarded scrotey tropes.

No. 2089837

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>>2089827
A lot of moid isekai are pretty blatant about the female characters clearly just jumping at a good deal kek.

No. 2089871

I'm not sure if I should put this under the spicy straight thread or this thread but what causes this uptick in self proclaimed asexuals that make and consume porn? Isn't the whole point of being asexual the adversity or indifference to sex and romance? And then you have them still whining about shirtless men and women in bikinis but one look at their likes and it's a minefield of niche fetish porn.

No. 2089922

>>2089871
My favorite brand of "asexual" has got to be the "Oh, I love having sex with my partner. I just don't want to have sex with everyone all the time like all the sexual people out there."

No. 2089925

>>2089871
porn brain rot?

No. 2089948

>>2089871
people nowadays need to turn everything into a sexuality. Thats why ''demisexuals'' is a thing when it literally just means not being a whore and jumping to bed with the first scrote you see, which is common. They could be based and say they are misandrists who hate 3DPD but they gotta attention whore and claim its asexuality to be part of the gendie crowd, because they are sheeps.

No. 2089951

>>2089871
Sorta related, but I recently read a fanfic that I thought had a decently compelling premise but good lord the fucking author could not for the life of her stop letting the main character ramble and sperg about how “oh I’ve never felt attraction like that” or “I’ve always felt different because unlike my peers I don’t want to fuck other character” and I had to just drop the fanfic and I muted and blocked the author because I never want to interact with that sort of crazy ever. She literally wrote almost entire chapters about the subject and had the audacity to be like “oh I guess I can tag Ace-spectrum character even though I shouldn’t have to.” Literally irked the shit out of me that I even wasted my time reading it. Like I honestly thought the ace-spectrum tag would just be a minor detail in the story from the way it was worded.

No. 2089952

>>2089871
Because in fandom/queer/whatever spaces being cishet is seen as shameful and boring so people will grasp at any label they can. Add onto the fact that people obsessed with labels are terminally online and barely interact with people irl, they will interpret their lack of romantic/sexual life as asexuality even though they're obsessed with porn. To be fair some of those people are functionally asexual, mainly the anime weeb ones in particular who've probably deluded themselves with fictional standards.

No. 2089967

>>2089593
english title?

No. 2090025

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>>2089470
Tbh the crappy ones are obvious from their summaries, it's pretty easy to avoid them but I understand the sheer number of them being annoying. Still I've managed to find several good straight isekai that don't fall into this formula
Picrel beware the villainess, I love my homegirl Melissa so much

No. 2090029

>>2090025
I agree, beware the villainess is a work of art. The male lead is so cute too

No. 2090034

>>2089871
they're just fat and ugly but won't acknowledge that and say they're asexual to throw off being forever alone even tho they're always in heat basically (as their tastes and "art" shows)

No. 2090054

>>2089967
Nta but No Longer Allowed in Another World.

No. 2090075

>>2090034
that honestly just sounds really sad, knowing you're to fucking ugly to get sex and then resort to calling yourself "asexual".

No. 2090101

>>2089871
desperation to have a unique elgeebeetea label definitely plays a part, but ime the women who do this generally have hangups around the idea of having sex or dating in real life, so despite obviously feeling sexual attraction, claim asexuality as a way of keeping people off their back from asking why they aren't dating or married. Seriously wish it was more socially acceptable to be voluntarily and happily single. Alternatively, and the more common variety in "asexual" moids, their preferences are so extreme and fetish ridden that everything they are sexually attracted to is not in the realm of real sex acts people can even do in real life, so while they coom to wild things like vore, inflation, vehicles, whatever, they have no interest in anything that would involve another person's sex organs, so they view themselves as "asexual"

No. 2090132

>>2090101
so thats why so many husbandofags call themselve asexual?

No. 2090242

>>2090132
"Asexual" husbandofags most likely just never felt attraction to 3D men and consider themselves asexual because they would never fuck or date one.

No. 2090930

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While I don’t hate Megan thee stallion I really hate her fans especially after she released her weeb/otaku songs. Her Americanised Japanese fans are the most annoying

No. 2090932

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>>2090930
What compels a non—American into liking this

No. 2090937

>>2089291
Toxic yuri/wlw/sapphic story
So like the same shit people complain about here are how most GL/WLW stories are “so fluffy omg we’re holding hands you’re soo cute a a a aaa”

No. 2090944

>>2089291
>>2089546
>>2090937
So let me get this straight, people are stereotyping all yuri as braindead fluffy slop when My Lesbian Experience With Loneliness shows a manga that's neither edgy nor fluffy, just a story from the perspective of a flawed maladjusted lesbian. I don't read a whole lot of yuri–the ones I did read were western–so I never understand this criticism. Like, is it toxic for a same sex couple to be flawed like any sane human being? Depends on who's being asked, but I think when people say they want more yuri where the characters feel human, this isn't what they meant. Not saying these sorts of stories can't exist, but to need to add toxicity as a means of interest reveals an uncreative streak in people.

No. 2090952

>>2090944
>of a flawed maladjusted lesbian
>lesbian
are you sure you read about the same kabi nagata whos into ddlg shit? and definitely not a lesbian

No. 2090955

>>2090930
why is megan allowed to do a cringy song about being a weeb but avril lavigne was mocked relentlessly for it

No. 2090957

>>2090952
I just meant the manga itself. What the author does has no bearing on the work itself but that is in no way condoning their actions. So what makes you think she's not a lesbian? She hasn't voiced any attractions to men nor has she even considered having sex with one. You can read bl and not necessarily be straight provided you're not aroused by what's going on. I just think the book's good.

No. 2090958

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>>2090952
NTA but what do you mean she's not a lesbian? Because she read yaoi at one point or because she's a late bloomer with serious issues? AFAIK she's never fucked a dude. I'm not even defending her, I think the older woman/mum fetish is weird but lesbians don't have to be well adjusted because they're human beings like the rest of us

No. 2090960

Please not the kabi nagata infighting again

No. 2090962

>>2090944
MLEWL isn't "yuri", it's an autobiographical manga about a lesbian author. It doesn't belong in this discussion.

No. 2090970

>>2090957
tayrt a bit of correction i might've confused kabi with another mangaka similar to her whos a transbian,so thats on me being retarded but the ddlg point stands. her works should be read as autobiographical and not yuri.

No. 2090975

>>2090955
Because Avril didn’t dress like a whore often enough

No. 2090976

>>2090955
Not the same audience I guess. I haven't listened to either songs but Megan has a reputation as an actual real, nerdy otaku who ships sasunaru and spergs when her anime husbandos come up. And allegedly she was like this before becoming famous. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know much about her.

No. 2090981

>>2090955
Because Avril wasn't a bona fide weeb like Meghan who's actually dedicated to her anime autism. Avril just used the very very Americanized surface level "Harajuku girl" aesthetic for a very short while when it was popular.

No. 2090982

>>2090955
Avril got hit with cultural appropriation accusations by Westerners and hello kitty was cringe back then.
Also idk but her song is a bit cooler and fits her persona . The pic that was circulating had Avril look very un-Avril like to general audiences. She looked like a scene queen which is cringe of course instead as a punk princess that she’s known for

No. 2091020

>>2084830
same nona…. i used to mourn there wasnt a lot of yaoi content of the characters but god would i take that instead of what we have now. If I have to see another zippertit kabru comic shilled as "so deep meaningful mlm!!!!" im showing up on the news

No. 2091021

>>2090958
NTA but there was discourse about this before and another native Japanese lesbian mangaka brought up that she has written about being attracted to both men and women (maybe in a blog?) before. The confusion stems from localization and because the term lesbian is often used as an umbrella term in Japan, as in, not exclusive female homosexuality, according to other mangaka. The title of the manga itself is sort of a mistranslation because it's translated as "my lesbian experience" when it's more like "my experience with lesbian brothels" or something like that.

No. 2091023

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>>2090944
That's one story. I can name a couple dark yuri stories, but it's not a stereotype for nothing that a lot of yuri are like pic related, pretty but fluff.

No. 2091055

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>Me: opens an average Korean manhwa
>An average Korean manhwa couple:

No. 2091060

>>2091055
KEKKKKK

No. 2091061

>>2091055
KEKK there are good manhwas but it's so cringy to see all those low effort comics with shitty soulless coloring where the top is a fridge and the bottom looks like he's twelve with big sparkling eyes but somehoe he's the same age or older than the top.

No. 2091137

>>2091021
Tbh i feel like lesbian = any wlw even if she’s bi is what most cultures do. Same as gay.

No. 2091205

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The immense seething this kusoge causes will never end

No. 2091223

>>2091205
Persona isn't a kusoge

No. 2091350

>>2091205
Naoto doesn't deserve this level of mental illness geared at her

No. 2091432

>>2091223
How so

No. 2091451

>>2091205
>As a trans guy around Naoto's age
>Naoto's age is 15
Stoped reading right there. She shouldn't even be online yet.

No. 2091456

>>2090944
To be fair, that manga is an illustrated autobiography, not fictional. I love dark relationships regardless of the sexes involve but a story of a real woman with tranny tier fetishes like DDLG hiring a prostitute is too gross even for me. I honestly laugh in hindsight that she's such a femcel she dissociated before trying to have sex with the escort, lmao

No. 2091776

>>2091205
Naoto's a shit character anyway, she just repeats shit Yosuke already said but everyone acts like she's a genius for saying it.

No. 2091876

>>2091223
there is an anon that calls everything she dislikes a kusoge

No. 2091889

>>2091223
Persona 4 is a kusoge to me and its treatment of Naoto is part of it.

No. 2092049

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Coping Sonico fans will never not be funny

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No. 2092059

>>2092049
you can go on my figure collection and find thousands of scrotes with super sonico displays. If this bitch had any other color of hair these dumb ethots wouldnt give a shit about her. Pink must be the most brainrotting color ever.

No. 2092062

>>2092057
What an idiot

No. 2092064

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>>2092059
I like pink a lot (though burgandy is my favorite color) but agreed.

No. 2092069

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>>2092064
>I guess it's okay to be into BL though because that sexualizes men
Yes.

No. 2092076

>>2092049
Do Japanese female sonico fans exist and/or do they come up with such elaborate copes to explain their interest in such figures or is copium like this really just a feature of western anime fans? If so, why?

No. 2092082

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>>2092076
They exist (Sonico did a collab event with sanrio puroland where a fair amount of Sonico cosplayers showed up) but they're not nearly as common as animecore girls on tiktok think they are.
Obviously women like that do exist in Japan though, someone's gotta produce the lingerie loli art that they all buy.

No. 2092092

>>2092082
Do they do the "i-it's totally not coomshit for men and actually made for the girlies" mental gymnastics though? How do they talk about their hobby?

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>>2092076
the only japanese sonico fan i know of is some coomer male seiyuu who's obsessed with huge tits. Something i have noticed is that most sonico japanese cosplayers are fat kek

No. 2092098

>>2092049
>I don't know if I have even seen any men who are really into sonico figures
kek the delusion, I'm sure that figure her hands are tied to the bedframe and her legs are up is not owned by men, for sure, or that Christmas figure that she's only wearing a ribbon across her body, I'm sure men are not interested at all.

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>>2092092
>i-it's totally not coomshit for men and actually made for the girlies
Kek, yes they do that all the time. Or at least claim 'Sonico's been reclaimed by the girlies'
>How do they talk about their hobby?
Unless they're really degenerate most of them just say stuff like 'I love Sonico because she's so cute!'
Weirdly I don't think a lot of them view her in a sexual light.

No. 2092100

>>2092057
>>2092064
>Can we stop pretending that women cant also enjoy the sexualization of female characters?
What a mouthful. Can we stop pretending that most of the pickmes into these kinds of characters aren't simply conditioned by a sexist society to find male approval by objectifying women? Imagine first sperging about how women can totally like needlessly sexualized female characters (as the original article was talking about how even in shoujo you can't escape from them) and then falling back to the "ackshually they're just cute and totally not sexualized!!!" cope.

Checked "her" youtube channel and of course it's a moid. Go figure.

No. 2092103

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>>2092099
>sanrio collabing with a company known for making violent and lolicon eroges
japan's so fucking weird at times

No. 2092105

>>2092098
Shut up nonnie Sonico is for the cute fashionable pinterest girlies because I say so.
>>2092100
>as the original article was talking about how even in shoujo you can't escape from them
Well, the original post was about a fanmade figure (probably one of those Chinese resin ones) that showed a close up shot of Tohru's underwear which is why people were reasonably upset.
>Checked "her" youtube channel and of course it's a moid
To the surprise of no one. I was thinking it might just be an extreme pick me but it being a moid tracks even more.

No. 2092109

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>>2092103
Sanrio collabs with everything.

No. 2092110

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>>2092103
also the official illustrations are drawn by tsuji santa, who has drawn for loli eroges and also did super fucking weird sexualized baby and child sonico art. Why cant coomers leave cute things alone.

No. 2092111

>>2092100
dont you womminz understand that coomshit is totally liberating and empowering??? you're a misogynist if you disagree!

No. 2092114

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No. 2092116

>>2092114
higurashi is understandable, because its actually good

No. 2092120

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>>2092116
True, just pointing out that Sanrio does collabs with 18+ (or at least heavy otaku) media all the time.

No. 2092122

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>>2092099
kekk reclaimed by the girlies, like how they released a wedding figure with wedding rings. Ofc she's wearing a cute wedding dress and not some tacky lingerie…

No. 2092130

>>2092122
>the MALE ring
b-but i thought only women liked sonico chan…

No. 2092135

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>>2092122
I had to look it up and it's real kek

No. 2092138

>>2092135
anyhon else feel empowered looking at this feminist icon?

No. 2092146

>>2092135
i like really scrotish anime myself and i have a few swimsuit figures of my favourite female characters, but i legit dont understand the appeal of super sonico. She has no personality, her proportions are nauseating and she has the fashion sense of shayna. There is nothing remotely appealing about her and her ugly ass figures that look like cheap aliexpress hooker outfits.

No. 2092147

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>>2092135
Yup, it's real. All her figures have peculiar descriptions, usually including something about her body.
>>2092138
Don't worry, we can remove that pesky skirt, for maximum empowerment!

No. 2092153

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>spend 3 seconds on MFC
>first post is a sonico shrine by a 31yo scrote who ofcourse has the toddler sonico figure where she's covered in cream that looks like cum front and center
maybe he's secretly a tgirl, may his egg crack. Inshallah.

No. 2092155

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>>2092105
Actually checked on this video only to spot the marriage sonico figure, fucking kek.

No. 2092167

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>>2092138
I don't know about you girlies but I'm feeling pretty empowered right now
>>2092155
He has the halfscale one too kek.

No. 2092168

>>2092167
whats with the blind speds trying to claim sonico is realistic? huge tits and ass with skinny everything else is more unrealistic than the average anime girl

No. 2092173

>>2092167
>The obese one without balloon tits doesn't have figures.
Why could that be? A true mystery. I bet it's the other girlies gatekeeping, for sure.

No. 2092174

>>2092100
>Checked "her" youtube channel and of course it's a moid. Go figure.
Holy shit I was expecting the typical nasal clocky tranny voice but he really sounds like just some guy.
Those tweets immediately reeked of transbian to me, but since the bio said they/them I assumed it was a case of major turbo pick meism. This honestly the first time I see a themlet moid, 99% I can automatically assume every they/them to be a woman.
Now him claiming to never see any male Sonico fans makes more sense. He probably saw plenty of them, but they were either fellow trans girlies, or they were obviously male but didn't have "he/him male" plastered on their bios, so his gendie status requires him to not assume their gender.

>>2092105
So the original tweet wasn't even about Sonico but he still made it about his tittywaifu? So he's just comparing animanga for young girls to eroge games for grown moids.
I also notice him talking about "smutty shoujo", as if that wouldn't just be josei, which is actually targeted at a mature audience (probably the word josei isn't kawaii uguu girlhood euphoria enough for him).

>>2092110
??? Does Sanrio have a moid audience? Or are the traumacore BPD sanriogirls also a thing in Japan?

No. 2092184

>>2092174
>Or are the traumacore BPD sanriogirls also a thing in Japan?
Considering stuff like this https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/31027429 and the nekopara artist being a woman, maybe.

No. 2092189

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>>2092174
>Now him claiming to never see any male Sonico fans makes more sense. He probably saw plenty of them, but they were either fellow trans girlies, or they were obviously male but didn't have "he/him male" plastered on their bios, so his gendie status requires him to not assume their gender.
To be fair, the guy himself doesn't seem to own any Sonico figures. He has Mai chan's daily life in his WL though so pretty obviously still degen.

No. 2092209

>>2092189
gross tranny, leave sakura alone

No. 2092222

>>2092049
cant people just simply like an oversexualized anime character because they like it? why over excuse it with all this political bs?
I liked bunny suit Mikuru as a kid because I thought she was hot, didnt need to make it a political statement.

No. 2092227

>>2092184
oh it definitely exists. theyre just called menhera over there

No. 2092231

>>2092222
because that means admitting they like something problematic like the male gaze

No. 2092236

>>2092049
i mean when i was a horny teen i just found her hot and guiltily saved pictures of her. this new moralfag shit is crazy

No. 2092240

>>2092231
>the male gaze
Zoomies don’t believe in that anymore. They think men are the oppressed ones

No. 2092245

>>2092049
Have these people never considered that the reason they don't encounter male Sonico fans is because they're in female spaces in the first place? No shit you don't think male coomerd exist when all you scroll is Pinterest and stan twitter. But sure 17 year old Sanrio girls are responsible for all of Nitroplus' revenue.

No. 2092248

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I wanted to see how the Sandman fandom was reacting to the allegations against Gaiman (what with the second season of the netflix show being announced and all), and was pleasantly surprised that they're being pretty mature about it. Then I saw this.

Imagine thinking that you are literally a fictional character and making it a core part of your identity and then finding out that the author who created you is a disgusting creep. These people have to find a way to cope that doesn't invalidate their fictional character souls, I guess. Would it surprise you to know that this poster also claims to have DID and that their headmates collectively use they/he/it/bug pronouns?

No. 2092261

>>2092240
>They think men are the oppressed ones
Unronically this

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No. 2092435

>>2092189
I'm gonna throw up, men need to leave my daughter Sakura alone

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No. 2092498

>>2092261
Like with every generation, the loudest are the pickmes. Gen Z teens and women don't really want to date over Discord and/or randomly get choke slammed during sex in my experience.

No. 2092502

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>>2092492
Jumpscare naked molerat

No. 2092509

>>2070160
kek the commenter is right. I'm not familiar with what threadpic is from but how is this even visually gender non-conforming? it literally just looks like a dude with long hair

No. 2092531

>>2092248
but guys, don't you know that the journalist is a terf?? that makes all claims void. neil gaiman did nothing wrong

No. 2092538

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>>2092248
>>2092531
I just found it so hilarious that JKR lives rent free and thinks she's still worse than a literal alleged abuser of at least two women. Oh right, I guess JKR totally 41% all trans people of course.

No. 2092551

>>2091776
Based. She seemed cool and mysterious in the first half of the game and then became boring as soon as she became a playable character.

No. 2092553

>>2092093
I'm morbidly curious now, which seiyuu is it.

No. 2092557

>>2092538
>male author rapes multiple women
>female author is anti-tranny
>the rapist is somehow less harmful
Holy fuck take me out of this timeline

No. 2092560

>>2092553
eguchi takuya. He wiped everything pre 2023 off his blog but he was a huge sonicoomer

No. 2092568

>>2092557
They're already losing their minds at the bdsm criticisms, I wish this didn't have to be about troons again.

No. 2092570

>>2092560
What an idiot, 2023 is too recent so if he actually worried about his reputation as a piece of shit coomer otaku who collects expensive and inappropriate figurines he should have deleted posts way earlier.

No. 2092578

>>2092570
i mean its not like it matters in japan, he probably just got a bigger female audience since his love stage seme days and didnt want to look like a coomer to his female simps

No. 2092589

>>2092492
>>2092269
Sorry I meant to say "yes gen z unironically believe this, which is very unfortunate" I guess I didn't explain myself correctly. Pls forgive me nona

No. 2094646

>>2092248
boring ass shows

No. 2096438

>>2092248
Can I ask what Gaiman actually did? I cannot be arsed to wade through the dredges of Tumblr myself. If you don’t mind?

No. 2096451

>>2096438
Allegations that he and his BPDette wife Amanda Palmer are creepy sex pests towards young women/their staff.

No. 2096458

>>2096438
1st accuser was a 21 year old nanny/au pair of theirs
>On the day they met each other he climbed into her bath and fingered her without consent
>He did surprise anal several times including once using butter as lube(?)
>Once the pain from anal was so bad she passed out
>She says he also hit her with a belt and would make her do degrading stuff like perform oral after doing anal as "punishment"
Gaiman says everything was consensual and there are whatsapp messages between them where she thanks him for the sex etc. Worth noting here is that she went to AP about this and she said the nanny was the 14th woman who had said something like this

No. 2096465

>>2096458
2nd accuser was a 20 year old who met him at 18 at a book signing
>tried to get her to do a threesome with her friend when they were 19
>told him not to penetrate he cause she had a UTI but he did it anyway and it was very painful
My take is he obviously has a taste for extremely young women and at the very least is a serious creep who has been abusing his fame to fuck fans for years at this point. Even if the sex was consensual the weird power tripping, enjoyment of pain and disregard for boundaries is concerning. Also worth mentioning is he had accuser #1 sign an NDA backdated to her first day of employment (thus covering the bath incident.) She apparently went to the police about it but they said no charges would stick.
(Sorry for the essay btw, just hadnt really looked into this myself and came away more than a little disgusted)

No. 2096476

>>2096465
AYRT, thanks Nona. Sucks to hear as someone who is (was?) a huge fan of Good Omens, not to mention that I inherited that passion from my mother. Men simply cannot be trusted. I hope these poor ladies are able to successfully press charges.

No. 2096813

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Why are female hetfags so cucked? Picrel is one of many I’ve encountered, straight women obsessing over the woman I presume they’re self inserting into to the point it borders on homoeroticism except they’re straight. Hell I’m a yumefag and I never understood this voyeuristic expression of sexuality

No. 2096817

>>2096813
To be fair, your post could be said for fujos. Anyways, the actual reason is as 85% self-insertion, 10% trying too hard to be quirky and a small 5% of brainrot.

No. 2096820

>>2096813
They're trying to convince men that they're ~one of the boys~. Standard pickme behavior.

No. 2096821

>>2096817
I have never seen fujos obsessed with female characters like a moid is unless you’re talking about general self insertion

No. 2096822

>>2096821
Nah, I mean obession/self-insertion with the uke character.

No. 2096823

>>2096821
Ayrt is just trying to start up yet another infight about fujos. Just ignore them.

No. 2096824

>>2096822
it makes sense for a straight woman to obsses over a male character though, this comparison makes no sense

No. 2096826

>>2096813
Same. I dont get female sonicoomer, shes so fucking ugly yet they seem to desperately want to make it a girly thing despite sonico being a mascot for a coom company.

No. 2096827

>>2092248
>endos dni
The fuck is an "endo?" An endocrinologist?

No. 2096828

>>2096824
Wait, maybe I didn't type it out correctly? I meant more so the whole "hetfags are so cucked" part I don't really get how self-inserting and obsessing over a character in a M/F ship makes you any more cucked than self-inserting and obsessing over a character in a M/M ship.

No. 2096830

>>2096827
Retards who larp having alters without a special twauma unlike the honest and true retards with alters with horrible twauma (Their parents grounded them.)

No. 2096831

>>2096828
a straight woman sexualizing a male character is normal a straight woman sexualizing a female reeks of pickmeism and insecurity

No. 2096833

>>2096831
I don't know. Obsessing and self-inserting over any character no matter the orientation or genders involved seems pretty cucked to me.

No. 2096835

>>2096833
Who do you want us to obsess over? 3dpd moids?

No. 2096839

>>2096813
Tbh I often want to talk about how beautiful and cute my favorite female character I have in a hetship is. I'm straight, but I just really do adore her just as a character, and from women who self-insert I imagine people enjoy comparing themselves to a woman who they also percieve as beautiful.
I feel the issue is a lot of women don't know how to express finding girl characters beautiful without defaulting to coomer moid talk given how prevalent it is online. You can think a girl looks pretty in a bikini without sounding like a moid about it, you can say a woman looks cool without saying you want her to step on you, you can say an anime girl is cute with a pretty design without saying you wanna fuck her. But moidery poisons women's minds everywhere.

No. 2096844

>>2096835
No, obsess all you want. Self-inserting into a ship of any kind is what makes you a cuckold.

No. 2096853

>>2096813
i feel like your picrel is a very far cry from actual pickme language.

No. 2096895

>>2096813
I know what you mean and it's always the most male gaze character too. I have a feeling they think they are subverting this into their thing, but to me, they are just reinforcing it. I don't know who that character in your pic is, but some of the characters they fawn over are clearly just fanservice with barely any personality other than generic waifu bait.

No. 2096907

>>2096895
Picrel is generic titcow who’s entire personality is being demure and sucking the mc’s dick, except she’s a teenager for pedo scrotes, so yes she’s exactly what you described

No. 2096912

>>2096844
Who cares. You're literally getting asshurt over the way people engage with romantic fiction in their own heads. I'm not even into shipping and I think you're being ridiculous.

No. 2096918

>>2096844
Are…are we really arguing that self inserting into a fictional relationship is cuckolding? Do you people go outside?

No. 2096947

>>2096438
>>>/snow/2011044
and the posts after that

No. 2097030

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No. 2097036

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Women do not have internalized misogyny because they don't want to read yuri

No. 2097040

>>2097030
I see this argument a lot. No, no fujo is secretly thinking about fucking you mutilated ‘she’-pigs. It’s not even a case of politics, I just don’t think about troons in my daily life if I can avoid them. Least of all in my nsfw material. Fucking ew.

No. 2097045

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No. 2097047

>>2097036
And what these people consider "sapphic work" is always big tittied Genshin girls they genuinely believe to be "made for sapphics".

>>2097030
Actual schizo posting. What the fuck.
>filename
Yeah, I've seen the most narcissist ones do this recently. Deadass claiming that effeminate ukes are appropriating "transfeminine culture" kek. The narcissism is off the charts.

No. 2097048

>>2097047
>And what these people consider "sapphic work" is always big tittied Genshin girls they genuinely believe to be "made for sapphics".
In this person's case it's literally fucking Naruto characters.
>Deadass claiming that effeminate ukes are appropriating "transfeminine culture" kek
Truly troons will try and worm their way into every aspect of fandom.

No. 2097053

>>2097036
she's right tho, yuri is not always male gaze and there are a lot of female authors making gl

No. 2097080

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>>2097036
Is there a term for these troons (because it's always troons) who complain about this? They'll claim to be misandrists or whatever, but the truth is they view themselves as failed males and they just hate the idea of women being attracted to good looking males.

No. 2097097

>>2097036
By this logic I'm intellectually challenged for not reading LOTR? yea know there are people who don't yuri, because they just don't like it. It's not a moral falling on their part–simply have nothing to gain by reading said content. That doesn't mean all yuri is bad and not worth your time, but I don't see fujos busting down doors when someone says they don't read yaoi.
>>2097053
True, but it's like finding diamonds in a turd shaft. You weren't find a single good gl manga that isn't riddled with male gaze fanservice and braindead pandering.
>>2097080
>owl house
Why do people hyperfixate on a show for preteens? Isn't that a tad creepy? And no, them saying this would be something they loved to watch that age is a shitty excuse.

No. 2097120

>>2097097
I was still a teenager when it was airing, but there were groups of either adult men or troons who only really cared about it as a sort of yuri fantasy

No. 2097125

>>2097120
When it aired, I was a bit too old to really be watching this stuff so I bailed after season 2. The yuri content nearly put me over the edge but the lackluster episodes combined with the weird fanbase turned me off from ever touching it again. And lo and behold, witch of mercury was released and those same fans flocked over for their next obsession. I don't hate yuri or lesbian couples at all, but I wish the ones that weren't written for scrotes or straight women became more mainstream.

No. 2097127

>>2097053
and? i still dont want to read about women kissing, i aint gay so i got no interest in that

No. 2097131

>>2097053
a lot of that boils down to the unique culture of japanese lesbianism and how it was/is expressed. most schools in japan were segregated for a long while, so there was a culture of 'bonds' between older class girls and younger ones. many times it wasn't physical bond, think of it as something like lesbian until graduation but on a much larger scale. this culture was the foundation of yuri(and probably yaoi) and something many japanese girls had either experienced or seen

No. 2097148

>>2097131
samefag, another big influence was the prevalence of stageplays in schools, where taller and slimmer girls would portray male characters, this also impacted yuri narratives, that's why there's a tendency to be excessively dramatic, without the inclusion of angst or explicit sexual content.

No. 2097225

>>2097045
>faghagphd
kek

No. 2097295

>>2097036
ot but gendies talking about feminism always makes me kek, if you asked her what a woman was she would crumble

No. 2097317

>>2097127
Then just say that instead of "oh, it's all malegaze, that's why I don't like it" like the people OP is complaining about. I don't know what het media is like because I don't consume it so I don't make arguments like "it's all cringe maledom" just because I've seen a few tiktoks complaining about Colleen Hoover.

No. 2097377

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>>2097148
It's one of the reasons why I find yuri kinda boring tbh, because it always involves these 'princely' girls who are just women doing a caricature of an outdated idea of a male prince, but taking it seriously

No. 2097380

>>2097377
I get it but I did really like pic related tbh. She's not lesbian though.

No. 2097383

>>2097317
Why do people feel the need to over explain their dislike of something? Just say it's not your cup of tea and move on.
>>2097377
Is that really true? all the yuri i've seen has two equally feminine leads with maybe one of them being on the boyish side.

No. 2097389

>>2097383
NO. that anon is retarded. please assume any post that generalizes yuri (or yaoi) is coming from someone who
>doesn't actually read it and is making statements from afar
>reads it only casually/reads only what's popular
>reads it, but doesn't understand everything they've read is a drop in the bucket because they don't actually know how to read jp/kr/cn and can't access the wider genre

No. 2097410

>>2097383
>Why do people feel the need to over explain their dislike of something?
The need to find a greater, more intellectual/political/'just' way to legitimise and frame your dislike of something was a massive thing on tumblr back in the day (and livejournal iirc) and spread from there, because it makes it harder for someone to contradict or disagree with you as they run the risk of looking stupid (replying with a simple, direct 'no' instead of their own uni thesis using similar language and talking points), like some kind of evil -ist or like they also disagree with the real world issues that have been tacked onto some dumb piece of media.


It's very tiring.

No. 2097504

>>2097036
>>2097040
>>2097045
>>2097047
>>2097048
There is a thread for discussing fujo discourse made so we don't discuss it here

No. 2097584

>>2097504
Why? It's literally fandom discourse.

No. 2097627

>>2097584
fujo discourse is a containment thread.
it was established bc people just wouldn't stop rehashing the same argumeent for/against fujos to the point it took over the fandom threads.

No. 2097631

>>2097584
because fujos can't take what they dish out without having a meltdown and they'd rather seethe about another tweet thats crying for more yuri for the 1837465th time(fujo infighting outside containment)

No. 2097640

>>2097631
The seething about yuri posts usually end up just talking about female characters generally though.
People want to like them and there's plenty that do have some they like, though they're not "ideal".

No. 2097655

>>2096918
> Do you ever go outside
You're in the lolcow thread made specifically for anons who get emotional over twitter fandom discourse, what do you think kek

No. 2098492

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When will it ever end

No. 2098504

>>2097317
Its still a coom genre for men, its like saying ''please dont say moe is male gazey!! there is moe written by women!'' . At its core, yuri is a genre thats made with the sole intention of appealing to men who fetishize lesbians.

No. 2098527

>>2098492
I wouldn't mind Mulan-esque "what if they were genderbent all along" headcanons if they actually made them female. IME these "male characters that are women to me" are always TIMs lmao

No. 2098529

>>2098492
Me with Sauron tbh he's so me

No. 2098530

>>2097377
The "princely" girl is such a straight girl ideal too, not saying that SSA woman can't like it but it's literally a takarazuka archetype and the only women I've ever seen fawn over it are painfully spicy straight who love the idea of an attractive, emotionally available idealized non-man but still will always pick a scrote over her. That's my gripe with most yuri though, it's mostly just wish fulfillment for heterosexual women and men and I find it really hard to relate to the characters for that reason. (Note: I don't count autobiographical works by actual lesbians as "yuri")

No. 2098555

>>2098527
A lot of the time they're TIFs too, or straight girls who wanna pretend the hetship they like is actually sapphic to look more progressive

No. 2098565

>>2098492
It's true, cute boys are all TIF to me. I can use he/him and see a flat chest but deep down I know they're a girl.

No. 2098595

>>2098565
>It's true, cute boys are all TIF to me.
Curious,were you dropped on your head as a infant perchance?

No. 2098608

>>2098565
>>2098529
Where are you people coming from

No. 2098614


No. 2098617

>>2098608
twitter

No. 2098619

>>2098530
>most yuri though, it's mostly just wish fulfillment for heterosexual women
Lolwut. Het women don't read yuri. That's the whole problem that these TIMs and handmaidens complain about, that straight women aren't reading enough yuri.

No. 2098621

>>2098608
This whole thread is a magnet for terminally online fandom types of which come mostly from twitter and tumblr. What did you expect?

No. 2098624

>>2098619
Literally every yurifag I know is either male or a straight woman but okay.
>That's the whole problem that these TIMs and handmaidens complain about, that straight women aren't reading enough yuri.
No, the problem is that BL content exists. They literally think that if people weren't creating all the fujo fanart and fics that effort would be going towards yuri. It's zero sum thinking.

No. 2098638

>>2098624
Pretty sure those het women are bi at least. I can't imagine fiction that involves romantic and sexual attraction between women to be any interesting to heterosexual women.

>They literally think that if people weren't creating all the fujo fanart and fics that effort would be going towards yuri. It's zero sum thinking.

Well yeah because fandom consist mostly of straight women and there's nothing fundamentally interesting for straight women to create yuri fiction. If you think yuri is for straight women wouldn't you expect to see more of it in fandom?

No. 2098645

>>2098624
Your personal experience is not universal Nona. Also maybe your “straight” friends that read yuri are not straight.

No. 2098648

>>2098638
It all boils down to shipping and a lot of female characters simply aren't relatable or interesting enough for female nor male fans and their only value is often the sex appeal. If female characters were more popular as a whole f/f shipping would be much more prevalent than it is now, as witnessed in fandoms that are built around female characters. Steven Universe for example was huge and it was nothing BUT f/f ships, but a lot of the most popular franchises like Shounen Jump manga feature mostly male characters which means the m/m ships are the most visible. Also fujos just happen to be the most active participants in creating fan works because they're the ones who never get any confirmed content so they have to make it all by themselves. BL manga itself is a very niche genre just like yuri.

No. 2098651

>>2098624
Please show me where all these straight women who read yuri are at.

No. 2098655

>>2098645
>a lot of female characters simply aren't relatable or interesting enough for female […] fans
Yeah, that's called being heterosexual, hun.

No. 2098656

>>2098655
>All male shounentards are gay

No. 2098657

>>2098656
Male shounentards don't make yaoi of male characters they self-insert into. Het women suddenly wouldn't make yuri or be into yuri if they liked certain female characters.

No. 2098661

>>2098657
I'm sorry if you operate on the basis of being able to enjoy only the ships of your personal sexuality but a lot of people can actually empathize with people of different orientations and find their character dynamics interesting. Truly a loss for you.

No. 2098663

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>>2098651
NTA but what do you think was a huge part of the demographic of Lady Oscar? Do you really think only seventies Japanese lesbians and men made this such a successful series?

No. 2098665

>>2098661
That's cute and all but it doesn't reflect in reality.

No. 2098666

>>2098663
You gotta be retarded if you think The Rose of Versailles is yuri. Fucking kek. Have you even read that shit? It's het. 99% het, 1% fem characters lusting after Oscar for the lulz. Don't be fucking retarded please.

No. 2098667

>>2098663
Doesn't Oscar love a man?

No. 2098668

>>2098663
Also series like L Word definitely wasn't carried by a male and lesbian audience kek.

I honestly think it's curious how they can totally accept gay and lesbian people appreciating and enjoying stories about heterosexual romance but if you're straight and like a homosexual one you must be AT LEAST bi and god forbid if you're a homosexual and like a homosexual ship of your opposite gender you're secretly straight. Weird how that works.

No. 2098670

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>>2098663
My favorite type of discussion in here is to see fujolards pretending they know about yuri and witnessing the extremely dumb and ignorant takes they have.

No. 2098673

>>2098668
The thing is that while it's true that het women can appreciate some same-sex female couples, they are absolutely not interested in producing that content themselves or autistically consume that content like yurifags do.

No. 2098677

>>2098670
Well, yuripedo is just as ignorant about fujos and BL despite constantly talking about them so we're even in that regard. I'm still waiting for her to give yuri recommendations that has butches in it but she just keeps defaulting to fantasizing about how much she wants to have sex with fujos.

No. 2098679

>>2098677
Take your meds

No. 2098681

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>>2098677
i wonder if yuripedo likes virgins empire, the author is like her and has a fujo fetish

No. 2098682

>>2098681
The author of this is a bisexual moid lol

No. 2098685

You guys have a slap fight thread for this.

No. 2098686

>>2098682
>a yuri series is created by a pornsick moid
Just as the prophecies told kek

No. 2098687

>>2098682
>bisexual
more like straight pickme

No. 2098699

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>>2098686
Personally I prefer yuri series by pornsick women.

No. 2098703

>>2098677
You might be a little in love with her when you keep bringing her up with this level of obsession anon

No. 2098711

>>2098668
>L Word definitely wasn't carried by a male and lesbian audience kek.
Are you retarded

No. 2098716

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>>2098686
i will give it to male yuritards, they are normally insanely good at art.

No. 2098728

>>2098716
So you're here calling other people pedos but you like this thing? LOL

No. 2098730


No. 2098734

>>2098730
What are your favorite yuri series, straight nonna?

No. 2098742

>>2098728
thats how the farmhands baptized the yuritard, i didnt name her myself. Akebichan looks like every single yuri manga ever made anyways.

No. 2098748

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Post straight-core yuri manga.(wrong thread)

No. 2098757

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>>2098748
Here is another one all the straight girlies love.

No. 2098759

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>>2098757
And this is hands down the all-time favorite for straight women.

No. 2098760

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>>2098663
I tried watching Lady Oscar and it has the exact same issue I talked about earlier. It's theatrical and over-the-top. I could never see it as anything more than Japanese school children just doing a play on the French Revolution

No. 2098764

>>2098759
scary as fuck artstyle

No. 2098767

>>2098759
Does something like Gunjo really count as a yuri manga? I feel like it crosses over to the actually lesbian comic genre, similar to the distinction between BL and geikomi.

No. 2098768

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>>2098759
And this is the one that all heterosexual yuri boomers realized they are heterosexual with because it cannot get any more peak heterosexual than pure, raw, unadultered platonic love between no homo girls than this.

No. 2098771

>>2098767
She's just having a meltie, ignore her

No. 2098774

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>>2098768
And when you're feeling alt-thot this is definitely the heterosexual yuri manga to go to.

No. 2098775

>>2098734
I don't read much but the manga I've liked the most was Blue. For anime I liked Asagao to Kase-san, Watashi no Yuri wa Oshigoto, Yuruyuri, and I loved the Maria-sama ga Miteiru series. But I still have to watch a lot of the classic yuri series.

No. 2098787

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>>2098774
When you feel like there is not enough bisexuality and cuckoldry for you to relate to, pic related never fails to attract the heterosexual female audience with the stuff they like.

No. 2098788

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>>2098775
>yuriyuri
the only yuri for straight women

No. 2098790

>>2098768
Ironically enough every single Maria-sama ga Miteru fan I've met has been a gooning scrote in his 30s or a millenial woman who's been married to the same moid for 15 years KEK

No. 2098792

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>>2098787
If everything else is too gay for your taste but you still want to be cool with your tumblr friends you can just headcanon that this manga is about lesbians and call it a day.

No. 2098798

>>2098790
I'm not being ironic at all.

No. 2098803

What I want to know is why don't lesbians create their own genre of lesbian manga separate from Yuri if the stuff that exists doesn't appeal to them, like gay moids made their own thing separate from yaoi.

No. 2098813

>>2098803
But yuri does appeal to lesbians

No. 2098821

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>>2098803
These days it's commonly called rezu but of course a retarded fujo that doesn't know about the genre wouldn't know kek. Also most lesbians in Asia simply like GL/yuri, and it's only terminally online western tardfems that seethe about it because they think the whole genre is made by scrotes out of ignorance (how would you ever know if you spend every evening getting off to feminist greek-style shota rapefics).(infighting)

No. 2098827

>>2098821
Okay, my fault for asking an honest question when an unmedicated schizo is currently online.

No. 2098828

>>2098790
>Maria-sama ga Miteru fan I've met has been a gooning scrote in his 30s
Why would gooning scrotes like this series then. There's no hot women for them to coom to and most of the series is just women talking

No. 2098834

>>2098821
i find it hilarious you call fujos pedos when you are the one defending oneeloli

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>>2098828
The Marimite novels readers were 90% women, but when the anime got released it actually got a mostly male following. It's one of those instances where where scrotes thought it's fun and quirky to like a super girly series. thus it prompted nearly a decade of Marimite references in other anime and Marimite crossover fanart with turbo-moid media.

No. 2098845

>>2098834
if you haven't figured it out, it's someone obviously baiting

No. 2098847

>>2098845
nah its the yuripedo, its her signature sperging

No. 2098886

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>>2098836
tbh I don't actually resent Marimite being popular with the scrotes. A lot of cool shit popped out as a result of such popularity. There was even a doujin fighting game released which sometimes I still play in an XP VM. I'm just happy a yuri-adjacent work ever got as popular as this. No other yuri-adjacent series has 4 seasons besides Yuru Yuri (which is kinda garbage anyway).

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>every average shitty comedy

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I'm a himejoshi instead of a fujoshi. I like yuri despite being a woman, and I do not think it's boring.

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>>2098963
>Green text
True, that ship dynamic if it were more misogynistic is basically The Big Bang Theory

No. 2098981

>>2098821
They are mad at you, but you're right. There's something going on about people who really dislike lesbians. I've seen them in specific threads and whatnot, there used to be a frequent poster that would flat out being extremely homophobic against them, and loved yaoi (pakichan). I don't know why anons are willing to ignore that specific fans are willing to hate yuri more than yaoi, and use the excuse of it being "male gazey". I will defend fujoshis, but a lot of them dislike himejoshis.

No. 2098983

>>2098492
isn't there a thread on /g/ dedicated to this

No. 2098991

>>2098983
No, the op post means it in a troon way. The /g/ thread is for tomboys or masculine women

No. 2098993

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himejos definitely have it easier in western fandom spaces, i'll just say that

No. 2098998

>>2098981
>Pakichan
>Loving yaoi
How do you manage to be so incorrect so confidently.

No. 2099009

>>2098993
Because they are pretty much non-existent so no one has them in their headspace.

No. 2099011

>>2098998
Did pakichan not like yaoi? I saw some posters tinfoil her liking it a while back.

No. 2099015

>>2099011
She is the biggest fujoshi/yaoi hater on this site, why else do you think anons accuse anti-fujo spergs of being her?

No. 2099134

>>2099011
pakichan only likes varg.

No. 2099295

>>2099134
Pakichan likes yaoi involving Varg.

No. 2099297

Does pakichan still use lolcow

No. 2099300

>>2099297
I haven't seen her in a while, maybe her VPN subscription ran out.

No. 2099392

>>2098670
This is basically a lesbian conversion therapy manga, all the girls that didnt kill themselves by the end turn out to be straight after all and get into relationships with older men

No. 2099406

>>2099392
MC never got into a relationship with a man or killed herself. Plus the only actual yuri was between her and the dead dyke, the rest of the manga was het.

No. 2099442

>>2099295
>>2098981
The natural response of fujocoomers is to project their obvious porn addiction onto others

No. 2099445

>>2098619
>>2098638
>>2098645
>>2098651
>>2098657
>>2098665
>>2098673
this discussion is strange to me since fictional taste doesn't equate to real life sexual preferences. what do you think of the sheer amount of lesbians who create and consume yaoi?

No. 2099448

>>2099445
Not wanting to date men doesn't equate to being a lesbian.

No. 2099449

>>2099445
>what do you think of the sheer amount of lesbians who create and consume yaoi?
Bisexuals.

No. 2099451

>>2099445
It's not even a discussion, it's obvious it's someone is just baiting

No. 2099482

>>2099442
>"fujocoomers"
>porn addicted

Kekerino. Do you think there's a "le female gooning epidemic" too?

No. 2099493

>>2099482
Not into this conversation but I hate the "female gooner epidemic" shit so much. It feels like something scores made up or adapted to deflect their own violent porn addiction and because they can't seem to fathom how or why women would be okay reading shitty erotica but not want to fuck them. It's all about men and their dicks, they don't care about the mental well being of women.

No. 2099495

>>2099482
Not into this conversation but I hate the "female gooner epidemic" shit so much. It feels like something scrotes made up or adapted to deflect their own violent porn addiction and because they can't seem to fathom how or why women would be okay reading shitty erotica but not want to fuck them. It's all about men and their dicks, they don't care about the mental well being of women

No. 2099505

>>2099482
>>2099495
nta but fujocoomer has been used here for some time now

No. 2099513

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>>2099495
Me too, it's so retarded when the same types of books have been available since the early seventies and before, and bored women weren't flicking the bean to those books for hours and hours and hours on end back then and they still aren't. Meanwhile until very recently it was difficult to get "normal" porn and even harder to get the fucked up shit you see moids get off to now and now men and teen boys will randomly choke or hit women during sex and/or have the most fucked up fetishes to the point they can't even get a erection without watching several screens of porn. They're so fucking threatened by the idea of a fictional man that's kind of just normal and average 99% of the time with a gimmick like being rich or being a novelist etc., but gasp he's not morbidly obese and unclean and a quarter of the time he's not being mean or creepy for no reason, oh god that literally kills men

No. 2099516

>>2099495
the real female gooners are getting off to the same thing men do, like all of the ''hit me daddy uguu'' ddlg pickmes. They arent a risk to men the same way coomer men who get off to jailbait and choking are to women.

No. 2099522

>>2099516
Those are just pickmes looking for that sweet sweet male validation. I have heavy doubts they actually orgasm from that shit. It's just a performance.

No. 2099524

>>2099522
i am sure they do, 50 shades wouldnt be so popular if they werent getting off to it to some degree

No. 2099528

>>2099448
if you're only interest in "men" are 2d men that you'd rather ship with other 2d men, doesn't seem like you'd like them romantically irl so still no.

No. 2099531

>>2099524
NTA I think that's in part to the ravishing fetish that the books cater to. I don't think most women got off to the BDSM I think it was more that the idea of someone desiring you and only you and having that intense attraction show through their actions A lot of women also find the idea of a moid ejaculating after making out/just seeing bare skin super hot This is also partly why Twilight and other YA of a similar vein got so popular

No. 2099532

>>2099482
>>2099493
Where does that even come from? The closest thing to men complaining about "female coomers" I've seen so far was on twitter when some girl made a viral tweet about how she wants to suck Nanami's dick (some guy from JJK) and men were shocked and appealed and saying women are dumb because they're not paying attention to the story kek. These same men retweeting female characters from the Shonen Jump magazine wearing tiny bikinis and doing ridiculous poses with oversized boobs. Usually when I see people insulting fujoshi outside of lc they're just called delusional and people tell them "(popular gay pairing) will never be canon lol" or the usual "why do you like yaoi and not yuri? are you homophobic/transphobic/a MLM fetishizer?"

No. 2099535

>>2099516
>all of the ''hit me daddy uguu'' ddlg pickmes
Interesting how those are never the ones being criticized by men and they always choose fujos or bookworms to bully instead.

No. 2099538

>>2099532
It's extremely popular for men to talk about the "female gooner epidemic" everywhere on social media right now, there's videos on yt about it as well. It's funny how they never make videos about their violent porn addictions. It's also telling how this is supposed to be a foil to the "male loneliness epidemic" aka the "why nobody wants to fuck me" epidemic.

No. 2099541

>>2099538
god i wish there was a female gooner epidemic to make men uncomfortable

No. 2099546

>>2099522
performing for who? each other? if we're talking dark romance erotica, it's pretty obviously a female space with men who stumble across it barely able to comprehend its existence or popularity. Men have only recently cottoned on to any of this, but the discussion has been alive within female spaces for years (only discussed with softer terms rather than direct ones like 'coomer' or 'pornsick' or the more recent widespread adoption of 'gooner')

it's kind of wild to me that people will act like women are magical nuns impervious to sexual thoughts and subject matter whenever this topic comes up, or that they must privately engage in media that they only discuss with other women for the purpose of male approval rather than their own interests, and then you'll see in this thread and others anons getting heated because someone brings up something they can't personally coom to, even if that was never the intent behind bringing up the subject.

Women obviously don't express their pornsickness in the same way average male coomers do (well, the vast majority don't, at least), and definitely not like the more extreme male cases, but it's retarded to think we're somehow exempt from porn's effects.

No. 2099557

>>2099531
>>2099522
>>2099516
>>2099546
As someone who used to be into dark romances(thankfully, I recovered), I can explain the logic. It's not really that complicated, you want a tall and powerful (but still gentle and loving) male who can protect you and hurt your enemies, Just like all fetishes it can and does gradually escalate to even worse situations and forms of abuse, but I won't say it's ever like male coomerim, It's clear it's different from most male fantasies because there's a focus on the male's 'rippling muscles and hard body' as well as his secret kind nature that doesn't show to the world

No. 2099561

>>2099557
The logic behind stuff like dark romance is pretty obvious imo, even if none of it personally appeals to me, and isn't really the issue– it's more the effects of consuming porn constantly (I've not only seen women online who can't read a book unless there's smut within the first handful of chapters anymore, but know multiple irl through a book club). I'll never argue that it's in any way the same as pornography of actual people, or that it's even close to reaching the level of late-stage male coomerisms, but it's clear they've fried their brains a little kek if they can't engage with their hobbies anymore without a level of arousal to motivate them to continue on.

No. 2099562

>>2099541
I will contribute if that ever happens.

>>2099538
Seems like I'm good at avoiding that kind of videos and posts online, but I blocked several thousands of twitter accounts so far and muted a lot of words so maybe that's why I haven't seen this kind of brain dead content.

No. 2099563

>>2099541
Most men are too ugly for women too goon unto to.

No. 2099565

>>2099561
that's why I stopped, cause it escalated into me chatting with some gums online and thankfully I realized how fucked this could potentially be, and I gradually stopped, but this is true for every fetish

No. 2099566

>>2099557
i unerstand wanting a tall powerful man who can protect you and hurt your enemies but i will never understand why you would want them to hurt you like in dark romance

No. 2099571

>>2099566
cause of escalation, cause before you just want a story of a stoic strong man to protect you, but then it escalates more and more and before you know it, your reading basically abuse porn

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>>2070274
You were right and I didn't listen
>barely touches on what made the fans cringe, just them being everywhere at the time of the video
>halfway through it turns into a "the shocking death game is problematic because it depicts/i project xyz bad thing onto it so i denounce ever liking it!!!" rant
So the usual moral grandstanding but from a moid this time. He also ticks many young male transmaiden boxes (clearly autistic, nintoddler, dubfag), the sort of profile to prefer Ace Attorney due to moral/peer pressure reasons. If you told me he's into JoJo or Persona too I wouldn't even question it.
>why write this
so nobody else has to spend 20 minutes watching it lol

No. 2100760

>>2099528
Riddle me why heterosexual men never get obsessed with male characters in romantic and sexual situations with each other, or why heterosexual women never get obsessed with female characters in those same settings.

No. 2100767

>>2100760
I honestly don’t think all men into traps, Futa, or troons in anime would ever want to suck a real life dick tbh. Also men are subhumans that don’t understand shipping the way women do so they wouldn’t engage in anything of substance. On the opposite spectrum, there’s self-admitted straight women that ship female characters together and read Yuri/baihe.

No. 2100822

>>2100767
It's hard to believe that these men wouldn't be aroused by irl male genitalia when they only consume penis-focused fetish content tbh. Even if they wouldn't suck a dick for whatever reason, them wanting to fuck other males is already bisexual.

>On the opposite spectrum, there’s self-admitted straight women that ship female characters together and read Yuri/baihe

I'm still looking for these supposedly heterosexual women that are obsessed with yuri. I understand if they would ship a couple fem characters or read some yuri content, but I still haven't came across one with the level of obsession for yuri as a fujo for yaoi.

Also it's way too common for pedophiles to consume loli, despite lolis, objectively speaking, not looking like real children. Most definitely the human brain can look at these 2D abstractions and recognize them as the humans they intend to represent.

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KEK

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>>2100823
Full context btw

No. 2100840

>>2100824
Geto? Really? When idk Maki and Mai are right there if you absolutely must get your commentary on being female from jjk's setting? Husbando brainrot kek

No. 2100847

>>2099557
>>2099541
>>2099538
>>2099532
Like >>2099505 said "fujocoomer" has been used here for a while. And the word coomer comes from beyond recent internet usage of "porn addiction". People nowadays call anything a porn addiction, but women and others have been made fun of on this site and other boards for being coomers(or obsessed with any genre of hentai) for a while

No. 2100926

>>2100823
Ngl I do get it when if its a female author trying to talk about sexualized topics and not wanting it to be seen as fetish fuel for moids.
If you want to discuss something like rape, moids are going to see it through a perverted gaze if you use a female character.

No. 2101016

>>2100840
tbf for once in my life I can agree that there's some symbolism in there with Geto since he's associated with wombs and pregnancy and in the anime of the curses he tries to "catch" calls him "mom" at some point and it pisses him off. But I also assume Gege may or may not just be into mpreg.

No. 2101096

>>2101016
Kenny is technically Yuuji's mom so….

No. 2101118

>>2101096
There's that too kek. I need to interview Gege myself I have too many questions. Some of the plot points look like they were taken from some rated E don't like don't read AO3 fanfics when you think too hard about it.

No. 2101133

>>2101118
I lowkey like that, I just treat the whole series like a shitpost. At least even if gege isn't taking the piss the MAPPA employees and the fandom definitely are

No. 2101145

>>2101133
Same, I like that anything can happen. Now we have shit like Kenjaku probably wanting to fuck Sukuna so bad for so long he settled for his reincarnated twin. It could have been a much more serious and darker story with more obvious implications if it weren't for Gege having to tone things down and simplify them to make sure 10 years old Japanese kids can understand what's going on but here we are.

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I cannot actually believe that these retarded TIFs took the bait. It’s so obvious that Mihoyo is using ZZZ as a way to test the boundaries of whether they can keep their female cash cows while producing another waifu-only coomer game like Hi3. How can you be so fucking retarded? They gave you a dog. A bear. And a robot. And somehow women are still falling for this shit. I’m genuinely flabbergasted, how can anyone be so fucking dumb??? This has to be wilful ignorance. Or cope.

No. 2101180

>>2101171
I'm conflicted because on hand too many bishes makes everyone look the same just as making everyone a pretty girl gets boring after while. But on the other end I'm concerned that hoyo will see the traction it gets and never bother with husbando collectors ever again. God, I'm hoping infinity nikki can bust into the market and prove them wrong but who knows.

No. 2101181

>>2101171
wait, so are monster boys too spicy for women?

No. 2101183

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>>2101171
the character designer is also a lolicon, whose only prior design works is lolis in slut clothes. I wonder if he had to suck some dicks to get to design characters for mihoyo, his designs are shit.

No. 2101184

>>2101171
>>2101180
Ngl I think this company is scared to stop pandering to moids for 5 minutes because they've curated an audience of terrorists kek

No. 2101185

>>2101180
>I'm conflicted because on hand too many bishes makes everyone look the same just as making everyone a pretty girl gets boring after while.
literally every female character in zzz is a pretty girl

No. 2101188

>>2100926
This. I will forever defend women's right to vent about rape and abuse by making art and writing fiction where a male character gets abused and raped, and if moids and these weak ass handmaidens are triggered by it, good.

No. 2101194

>>2101184
The bunny girl incident scarred hoyo for life.
>>2101185
I'm just saying a bit of character variety doesn't hurt both sides. I'm still holding out hope for a full on anthro girl instead of the half ass shit we got now.

No. 2101195

>>2101188
>>2100926
There's also a certain level of detachment when your vent character is a male speaking from experience so it's likely just easier for the authors psychologically to process and unpack their trauma.

No. 2101205

>>2101194
What’s the bunny girl incident?

No. 2101212

>>2100926
>>2101188
>>2101195
Isn't that why everyone thought Gege was a women when the manga started? That and Maki's backstory.

No. 2101219

>>2101205
Tl;Dr rundown
> Mihoyo released bunny girl skins to basically every server except China's due to their obscenity laws
> Chinese moids are either furious at being "cucked" or outraged that their precious pure waifus are "dressing like sluts abroad"
> One moid, filled with impotent rage, shows up at the HQ with a knife threatening to stab the CEO
> This backlash is probably the entire reason why their next game, Genshin Impact, was made to appeal more to women kek
> Now every time the company dares to release a bishie male character or a relatively covered woman, gachacel males sperg about "being ignored" and make threats of violence

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>>2101219
the communist party should send these whiners to labor camps

No. 2101248

>>2101219
Holy fucking kek

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>>2101243
>>2101248
Eastern fandoms for Gacha games attract autism us Westerners can't even fathom. Korea had the infamous Limbus controversy where incels LAID SIEGE TO THE HQ BUILDING and got staff members fired over a conspiracy that there were feminists on the design team… because a female character's skin-tight wetsuit apparently wasn't sexy enough, and a male character wearing an open shirt to the beach triggered them. I wish I was joking.

No. 2101255

>>2101194
>I'm still holding out hope for a full on anthro girl
will never happen, moids would rather cut their hands than draw a single female character they cant coom to

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>>2101253
Samefag, here is the dirty male siren whose shameful lack of body coverage sparked the movement kek

No. 2101261

>>2101253
ah I see the problem, the justification for their rage- no vacuum-sealed cleavage. Truly a crime against coom.

>>2101258
imagine being so weak kek

No. 2101314

>>2101253
Holy fuck we should be talking more about male Korea fandom if it's this milky. This hatred of feminism is sad but also entertaining

No. 2101323

>>2101314
korean feminists are fucking based scrotes are still seething over them getting dorontabi banned

No. 2101344

>>2101255
You can make a sexless nun and one moid will still goon to her. Don't underestimate the horniness of a scrote.

No. 2101347

>>2101255
uhh… furries and dog girls are popular with some men.

No. 2101370

>>2101194
If you're holding out hope for an anthro girl from mihoyo you are beyond saving lmao

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>>2101194
Oh you poor, sweet, naïve nona…

No. 2101390

>>2101180
>infinity nikki
do we have a release date?

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>>2101183
if the milk was just about his loli art then i doubt normies would ever complain, it's nothing worse than what the Nagatoro guy drew. but the pixiv thing >>2070482 is truly rancid, it's shit like porn of joel's daughter Sarah from the last of us.
i really thought that controversy would create itself but I guess not, all i can find is toothless tweets calling him a lolicon with no elaboration. the key as an artist to get away with pedophilia is to have the evidence be so disgusting that nobody wants to share or save it.

No. 2101409

>>2086970
IK that this reply was from a while ago but after reading through this thread I wanted to ask why this board seems to be really anti-loli but indifferent when it comes towards shota? Don't come round this area too often so I was wondering.

No. 2101414

>>2101409
>she hasn't seen any of the 1000 shota slapfights

No. 2101417

>>2101409
Loli is hated for the normally said reasons and also moids.
Shota is in a weird position where a lot of weebs here liked series that involved that when they were younger. Plus in some, there's a little more trust that women wouldn't be as retarded about the difference between fantasy and fiction.

No. 2101420

>>2101409
women arent raping children so who cares, shota is also super rare compared to loli thats literally everywhere

No. 2101424

>>2101409
Personally, both are disgusting and the people who view shota and loli are beyond saving but you have to admit at least women into shota aren't making anime spaces a genuine pain to be in and know the lines between fiction and reality.

No. 2101430

>>2101409
Because most shotafags are pathetic (but completely harmless) women who never move beyond their sparkle-filter anime boys, whereas most lolifags are dangerous pedophilic and multi-paraphilic males who routinely graduate to irl cp and pose legitimate threat to children. Both are gross imo but I can't pretend they're in any way comparable.

No. 2101436

>>2101406
Nonas, I have an idea. Some big TIF fandom account should tweet something like:
> “If you play ZZZ or are in the ZZZ fandom then you support lolicon, pedophilia and CSA!!! A thread:”
Only by calling on the dregs of proship discourse can we convince gullible teenage girls to steer clear of this coomoid propagandist bullcrap. It might just work…

No. 2101440

>>2101436
it wont happen because they dont give a fuck, otherwise they wouldnt watch anime

No. 2101444

>>2101409
God I knew this thread was brimming with newfags and tourists but this is just embarrassing

No. 2101461

>>2101440
It wouldn’t stop them doing it but it would get the infighting going and there is nothing that I love more than watching HoyoTIF scraps on my timeline. ‘Tear the bitch apart!’

No. 2101465

>>2101420
Someone hasn't heard of himepen,just because you aren't raping real children doesn't mean you should coom to drawn children.shotafags and lolifags are made of them same cloth and you'll find the same "its fictional!!" Cognitive dissonance in both

No. 2101478

>>2101465
>Someone hasn't heard of himepen,
Yeah, nobody really gives a fuck about some retard.
Now look at /m/ and see how many shota adjacent shows are talked about and have threads.

No. 2101492

>>2101465
>himepen
She wasn't even a shotacon. She was an autopedo lolifag and only had lolis on her NSFW account.

No. 2101499

>>2101478
>Now look at /m/ and see how many shota adjacent shows are talked about and have threads.
? are you retarded? Where did I mention anything about lc? And ofcourse there'd be no main shota threads here since it's banned here retard unless it's the fujo thread ofcourse you can't just pretend loli is harmful with real life consequences while shota is the lesser evil.

No. 2101500

>>2101465
honestly normie women are cooming to worse thing, like those dark fantasy smut slop. Shota is insanely unpopular and outside black butler and some joseimukes like twisted wonderland they are rare. Meanwhile lolishit is everywhere and even normie franchises like genshin and fate have lolis on the dozen.

No. 2101503

>>2101492
She roleplayed shota shit with her 13 year old boyfriend and took nudes with her 8 year old brother. Whether you like it or not she was a shotacon

No. 2101504

>>2101501
no1currs about some literal who who got btfo'd years ago go sperg about all the blue archive and zzz moids

No. 2101506

>>2101499
Shota adjacent, as in the Hetalia threads, the anime threads, fgo, Enstars, Twisted Wonderland, etc.
Learn to read better.
Hell the anime thread has been circling around that new shotabait show for a while now.

No. 2101509

>>2101506
>hetalia
>shota

No. 2101511

>>2101509
If you don't remember the crossdressing Italy x holy Roman empire ship, or the France, Spain, and UK shota ships, then you either never watched it yourself or you smashed your head hard on something.

No. 2101514

>>2101511
hetalia has shota? thats it i am watching hetalia

No. 2101517

Why we gotta rehash this convo everytime a newfag who can't be bothered to lurk and backread shows up?

No. 2101520

>>2101514
Wait, you were genuinely asking?
I'm sorry for being mean.

No. 2101527

>>2101500
This. Lolishit has been normalized into your average popular show/game as long as they aren't explicit about it which is honestly much worse

No. 2101533

>>2101527
loli is so normalized ironic weebs have to delude themselves into thinking its actually wholesome and not depraved. Like how zoomies lost their shit once the kanna bunny suit figure came out because they memed themselves into thinking she was actually meant to be a cute child character and not obvious lolibait coom, i still remember ''ravioli ravioli dont lewd the dragon loli'' being everywhere back when dragon maid was popular.

No. 2101615

>>2101533
I found everything about it to be sus. So you're telling me a show that was made for horny male otaku has things horny male otaku like? who would've thought kek. Honestly the dragon loli memes were stupid and did nothing to dissuade the lolicons from drawing porn of her. The show often depicts her in a very lewd relationship with a equally young character but no one noticed?

No. 2101629

>>2101615
I have no clue how people delude themselves into thinking loli is not coomshit, even at like 12 when i was still an anime noob I noticed something was up with certain shows regarding young girl characters and steered clear, even though my coomer sensor wasn't as good back then then it is now. It takes maybe two years of consuming weeb media to wisen up to the tropes. Don't know how these people spend a decade coping.

No. 2101655

>>2101503
so she actually was a pedophile, hope they jailed her.

No. 2101658

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>>2101629
All the lolicon and shoved in fanservice is why I rarely watch anime these days. Maybe like 3 shows a season but then you have to contend with shitty character archetypes and overdone plotlines that go nowhere, leaving you wondering if it was worth your time. It's weird because I don't mind consuming anime adjacent media or indulge in the idea of anime, but anime at it's core is inherently losing its's soul as more and more shutins join the industry with their incestous flith. Miyazaki is a weird mind but his anime is a mistake quote (or misquote) illustrates my feelings perfectly. Sad thing is, people will still buy into it. so as long as anime entertains the idea of unadulterated escapism, anime can never become art, at least in this era.

No. 2101668

>>2101658
Miyazaki is literally a self-proclaimed lolicon (convo leaked) that had a thing for her underage cousin/niece or something KEK

No. 2101701

>>2101668
Of course. Why can't moids keep their cocks in their pants for fuck sake.

No. 2101708

>>2101658
This was a meme quote, Miyazaki is a lolicon, and it's very easy to get good non lolicon shows if you just stop looking at tiktok and twitter for what to watch.

No. 2101725

>>2101668
What does this even have to do with the pic that she posted? Show proof or stfu, no one cares about your unsubstantiated claims

No. 2101739

>>2101725
Literally one Google away, fucktard. Baffling how people here of all places are so set on defending scrotes they think are "good" lmao

No. 2101824


No. 2101830

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>>2101725
Yikes.

No. 2101886

>>2101725
The convo can be easily found by a Google search and it's been around for years. Imagine idolizing a scrote, defending him and not being aware of his known pedo tendencies because he makes weird ass cartoons. Also Miyazaki was only a hypocritical old boomer. Made a bunch of movies with little girls or boys as protags with wholesome vibes uwu while he made the job unbearable for his studio, pressured his wife into leaving animation to take care of his kid, and then dunk of his kid constantly when he as an architect wasn't instantly great at directing an anime movie (a job he didn't even really want). Miserable piece of shit that made everyone else miserable.

No. 2101902

>>2101409
This is only a recent trend here for the past year or so. It's like others said though, most of the time the women into shota aren't actual pedos as the men into loli are, but both are considered cow behavior anyway. It's only recently that women on here have been getting more vocal about being into shota for some reason. Tinfoiling but I think it has to do with the time dumbass shit was having the huge shota debates and they had to introduce a shota ban rule. This was around the time the first fandom psychology thread was made which brought in a bunch of twitter newfags like yourself which don't know that this site has considered lolishota fans cows. Look at old cos-thot or cow threads on /snow/ or /pt/ to find women who would like loli and pander to lolicons, or would draw shota on there.

No. 2101911

>>2101902
>women into shota aren't actual pedos
lol
lmao

No. 2101912

>>2101911
Nona I agree with you but I don't want to say it and cause another infight kek

No. 2101923

>>2101911
>>2101912
Which female authors do you say are legit pedos that need to be avoided?

No. 2101937

>>2101923
It doesn't matter if they have touched real kids or not to me, and off the top of my head I can't give you an answer. Nonetheless, I think even if you are attracted to the mere concept of a kid being sexually involved then you are a pedophile, doesn't matter if you act on it or not. It's all about the intent you have behind making or consuming art. But anyway, there's no point in trying to change my mind though so that's why I didn't bring it up. Don't bother.

No. 2101945

>>2101937
>It doesn't matter if they have touched real kids or not to me, and off the top of my head I can't give you an answer.
Why not? If there are female authors that draw shota then wouldn't it be a good thing to give names on who to avoid, names so people can tell others to fuck off with that pedo shit?(bait)

No. 2101956

>>2101945
Are you asking for legit pedos or just shota authors? Also, don't know if you can read my post but I said don't bother trying to change my mind lol. You know what you're doing.

No. 2101959

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>>2101937
if someone is telling you they aren’t attracted to kids, why do you want them to be attracted so badly? anime characters don’t resemble human beings in any way that matters. see picrel. one is just an anime girl, one is uncanny valley costhot

No. 2101960

>>2101959
>using the breeding propaganda show with teen characters for this argument

No. 2101963

>>2101960
christ you’re stupid. keep at it!

No. 2101964

>>2101959
>>2101937
ayrt
>But anyway, there's no point in trying to change my mind though so that's why I didn't bring it up. Don't bother.

No. 2101968

>>2101956
Is there a difference between the two in your opinion?
I read the only reply you seem to be able to make but that doesn't answer the simple question I asked you.

No. 2101972

>>2101968
Pedos are pedos by law. I think lolishota fans are pedos by pure opinion and personal belief. I can't give you an example because I'm not a lolishota fan so I don't keep up with who and who not to avoid. People have given some examples in the past but I can't remember them enough to name them. Research them if you genuinely care.

No. 2101979

>>2101972
You can't remember a single name? Have you watched anime written by women before? You'd think it'd be easy.

No. 2101983

>>2101979
Not all anime written by women has lolishota in it kek, you're revealing a lot about your own tastes nonny

No. 2101991

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>>2101979
I don't read yaoi, but I know one female yuri author that went down the oneloli spiral, never managed to become normal again and just started posting creepy tweets about wanting to carry lolis in her luggage, taking care of her niece, and other deranged shit that just screams pedophile (leaving aside all the oneloli manga she did including lewds). I also have an acquaintance that is obsessed with oneloli and she told me about being SA as a child so I guess that's her "outlet" instead of creeping on real little girls.

No. 2101992

>>2101983
If you know enough to tell the ones that do from the ones that don't then how come you can't name the ones that are?

No. 2101997

When men murder rape and torture real life kids by the hundreds every day, I literally cannot find it in me to care about some shut in women that would never harm anyone drawing shotacon

No. 2101998

>>2101992
Then are you asking for lolishota anime or are you asking for pedophiles? Of course I know anime with lolishota in it but you were asking me what female authors are pedophiles >>2101923
. Those are two completely different questions. You aren't coming at this conversation with good intentions because your goal posts keep shifting.

No. 2102002

>>2101992
>>2101998
Samefagging but if your question is who are pedophile female authors to avoid then I've already answered your question here >>2101972
If you're asking for lolishota anime then go in the anime thread because I can't help you with that unless you want me to just spitball random anime until you think I've said enough.

No. 2102004

>>2101997
They are still pedophiles and many of those women end up breeding when they should never be in contact with real children ever.

No. 2102005

>>2101979
Oh yeah Fruits Basket, Sailor Moon and Dorohedoro are notorious for loli content. Be for real anon

No. 2102008

>>2102004
>shut in hikki women having kids
Lol, lmao even. Such a non issue to care about

No. 2102028

>>2102002
You didn't say anything other than "Eh idk look it up yourself".
That's a pretty terrible non answer.

No. 2102031

>>2102005
People actually do see the Sailor Moon author as a lolicon and have said fruits basket aged very poorly in terms of morality tbh.

No. 2102033

>>2102028
Do you have a disability that stops you from reading? I said I can't give you any because I am being honest in saying I don't know any off the top of my head. I can give no other advice than to look at previous threads or do your own research because I don't know anyway. To summarize once again for those who can't read, I don't know any to name. Also for someone so persistent to get someone to respond to their question, you do love to ignore other peoples. You still won't change my mind and going in circles does nothing. You should just say what you really want to say and call it a day.(infighting)

No. 2102043

>>2098767
DA but gunjo has at least 2 separate counts of heterosexual rape in it. no way is any lesbian finding enjoyment out of that. gunjo is for raped men with arrested development who project onto female characters because reading berserk hits too close to home.

No. 2102045

>>2102031
>see the Sailor Moon author as a lolicon
Nona can you elaborate on this because the only info I can find is from some nobody on Twitter I think lolicon is degen but this seems like a stretch kek

No. 2102047

>>2102031
Being weird about relationships and abuse doesn't really compare to shotacon or lolicon though inb4 "but incest!!" they're not actually related, the "family" is just whoever has the curse or knows about it

No. 2102051

>>2101506
>shota adjacent
>hetalia, fgo, twisted wonderland
Does just everything "not roidpig" count as shota now? I swear to god zoomers will call bishounen "shota" these days too. Words have lost their meaning.

No. 2102052

>>2102043
>no way is any lesbian finding enjoyment out of that
Ericow would love to have a word with you.
https://okazu.yuricon.com/2010/04/09/yuri-manga-gunjo-volume-1/

No. 2102054

>>2102051
Unironically yes, see: the Kirito debate

No. 2102068

>>2102043
Anon I hope you realize that media isn't supposed to be enjoyed sometimes. I read gunjo and personally I enjoyed it not because it featured rape but because it was a horrible story where both protagonists experienced a long spiral down. People watch tragedies not because it makes them feel good but because people want to feel horrible. Though I agree that it shouldn't be defined as a yuri instead a tragedy like how killing stalking shouldn't be defined as BL and more-so a psychological horror. People shouldn't just consume media that makes them comfortable because it's a retarded one track way of thinking that's more immature than being a moid.

No. 2102073

>>2102051
According to newfags, apparently so

No. 2102076

>>2102068
samefag, I meant "media isn't supposed to be enjoyed sometimes" as in media that's all fluff with no tropes or concepts that make the viewer uncomfortable.

No. 2102079

>>2102051
got any anime recs with characters who are not shota or roidpigs?

No. 2102080

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>>2102079
NTA but there's a few if you have a look at non super mainstream garbo

No. 2102081

>>2102068
Yuri isn't autistically classified like yaoi is. Yuri encompasses rezu, GL, class-S and friendship stories. Gunjo is yuri by virtue of being a rezu story.

No. 2102082

>>2102080
>recs anime with one (irrelevant) male character
Kek based

No. 2102089

>>2101506
What even is shota adjacent? I stopped consuming anime a long time ago, with few exceptions, but seeing this new wave of anime fans moralize every aspect of the media as if it wasn't fundamentally flawed is pathetic. If you don't like anime, don't watch it. Coming up with these ridiculous terms to moralfag every aspect of anime won't put you on a pedestal for liking "the right ones".

No. 2102090

>>2102089
I guess it's anything with an anime boy that's small, like astro boy, dragon ball, detective Conan, and so on.

No. 2102091

>>2102033
What is there to say? You don't know shit and are talking out of your ass? You made that clear enough kek.
Go back to Tiktok.(infighting)

No. 2102093

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>>2102051
Those series had shota in them though. Hetalia has the crossdressing italies getting groped by Spain and France and Teisted Wonderland has that blue haired robo shota and is made by the Black Butler's author, Ceil is a shota.
Well, fgo is known for loli but that's kind of besides the point, isn't it? It's fine to call them shota adjacent when they have shota in them.

No. 2102104

>>2102079
bishies are not a rarity

No. 2102108

>>2102093
You fucking dumbass just portraying child characters isn't "shota" or "loli". The online brainrot people have here is indescribable. This just in Goonies is a shotacon movie now.

No. 2102112

>>2102093
>Hetalia has the crossdressing italies getting groped by Spain
I don't watch Hetalia, but what does crossdressing and groping have to do with shotas? Are these italies kids?

No. 2102116

>>2102108
The goonies is a real life action movie and not anime.
Why would fgo lolis loli but young male characters not be shota?
>>2102112
Yes.

No. 2102117

>>2102112
nta but if you don’t know anything then why do you feel the need to comment. no offense

No. 2102149

>>2102117
It's just baffling to me to see them consider every single young character as inherently wrong. I would argue the issue is the media and not the characters if it comes to that. But fine, you're right. I'll leave you all to your argument over shota for the 100th time. This discussion leaks to so many threads and boards that it got on my nerves, but it'll do no good for me to feed into it.

No. 2102322

>>2102091
If you don't like my opinion on lolishota fans then you can just say that rather than try to argue something pointless, you know? I never claimed to know who is or isn't a pedo, you just assumed I did. All I did was state my personal belief

No. 2102348

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>>2102093
It's insane to me that picrel is apparently equivalent to disgusting loli designs like the waterkuma stuff posted earlier, where the character literally looks like a chubby toddler wearing porno clothes.
I feel like female teenagers being sexualized is so common it generally is accepted but for men, the actually equivalent design of a high-school boy in shorts or something ends up labeled shota. If you don't like sexualizing teens overall, that's fair and reasonable but I'm sick of seeing people cry omg lolisho and it's a fucking high school boy in full coverage clothing vs some elementary schooler in a thong.
Earnestly tell me how picrel resembles an elementary schooler and deserves to be placed on the same level as waterkuma.

No. 2102503

>>2101992
Nta but if you're making a wild claim like all women write about is pedo shit, the onus of proof of it being super common and not niche save a few rare retards is on you.

No. 2103076

>>2102348
agreed

No. 2103291

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This pickme responding to complaints about ZZZ's male chara design LMAOOOO IMAGINE BEING THIS CUCKED.

No. 2103304

>>2103291
>I didn't realize the ladies here were just as shallow as the waifu obsessed guys lmao get some taste
It's all so tiring. The ugly man psyop has claimed too many

No. 2103326

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don’t know if this ot but i wish i could show this picture to every retard who insists sexualized female designs are actually feminist and cool. or a sign that the character in question is embracing her own sexuality. note: i’m fine with these designs it just annoys me to see them praised as empowering or not actually fapb8

No. 2103375

>>2103326
That argument was always bullshit because the character literally can't choose her own outfit.

No. 2103399

>>2103326
Yeah kek I can't be assed with these arguments since the way a cartoon character is dressed has never made me self conscious, but anyone making any argument outside of the character designer having a hard-on while drawing them is coping. Why come up with 20 copes when you can say "the designer wanted her to have her ass out" and that'd make more sense. Also, I don't know why ZZZ keeps coming up, I just like the gameplay. I hit level 40 yesterday and I think I like it better than these repeated open world games. Hopefully the fandom for this one won't be shit, seems like it's already knee-deep in controversy.
There's a couple more extremely samey games coming out but I'm holding out for infinity Nikki too, I hope it's fun.

No. 2103470

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>>2102348
>>2102093
But nonna, these two characters are literally the same.
BTW, I picked the "most outrageous" card of ortho that made retards go
>OMG but ortho is just baby!!!
In the end it's crazy how anything touched by a woman ends up being considered dirty and something unspeakable. Yes , Toboso loves her "shotas" if you can even call them that, but it's dumb to say that someone like ortho or even riddle or epel are shotas when most of the time they don't even wear shota-like outfits, they don't have shirtless outfits showing weird puffy nipples or weird expressions that are supposed to be sexy.
Like how is anything from Twisted Wonderland or even hetalia supposed to be shota when the point of the young characters is that they're cute, that's about it.(shota derail)

No. 2103485

>>2103399
hoyoverse’s games really all do look the same

No. 2103599

>>2103470
This is because men are inferior

No. 2103601

>>2102348
>>2103470
Idk, if Ceil counts as a shota then I don't see why a character drawn by the same artist that looks same age/younger wouldn't count.
It's not like all loli look like the same either, Megumin is considered one too.

No. 2103603

>>2103470
i still cant believe its an official yamaha loli,too

No. 2103615

>>2103470
If the shotacon author's intention was for them to be seen as shota and they get shota doujinshi and are tagged as shota and other characters are called out as shotacon for flirting with them, I'm sorry but the character you like is a shota.
>b-but loli is worse!
Who the fuck cares. Female characters are in general, treated worse and this whole stupid crossbreed infighting is absolutely retarded.

No. 2103618

>>2103615
>crossbreed
Crossthread.

No. 2103630

>>2103601
Honestly I think it’s just because loli is becoming more and more mainstream. All those animecore girls on tiktok keep promoting it and continue to escalate and promote more and more overtly sexualized loli. In comparison, shota is still in the same popularity as it’s always been, not super mainstream but not super unpopular.

No. 2103648

>>2103615
nta but i think a loli in hooker clothes endorsed by fucking yamaha is miles worse than an ugly ass character like ortho that even jared from subway wouldnt molest. One looks like its traced from a real child and the other one looks like randomly generated cyberpunk 2077 character.

No. 2103658

>>2103651
Please use the anime thread if you're not going to discuss fandom drama

No. 2103660

>>2103648
Yes, her design is worse.
That doesn't change anything.
Its like saying yaoi isn't porn because shitty moid hentai is worse.
It doesn't matter what is worse when it comes to what something is.

No. 2103670

>>2103660
if ortho is shota then yana did her fellow shotafags dirty that motherfucker is ugly as sin

No. 2103675

>>2103670
It is possible for an artist to make a bad design.
That doesn't change the intentions of that design.

No. 2103680

>>2103675
is ortho even appealing to shotafags though?

No. 2103691

>>2103680
Go find a bunch and ask.

No. 2103694

>>2103680
A failed shota is still a shota

No. 2103879

>>2102093
>>2102112
Japan is a perverted culture

No. 2104110

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>>2103648
>One looks like its traced from a real child
no it doesn’t? she looks like a tiny adult, she has curves and ass and thighs. not trying to defend this shit but this statement is totally false

No. 2104146

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will this controversy be the thing that finally puts genshin in the ground

No. 2104172

>>2104146
KEK I lowkey want this as a banner

No. 2104173

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>>2104110
>tiny adult
>she has curves and ass and thighs.
>this known loli artits totes drew a petite adult!!
Retard

No. 2104182

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>>2101323
> Google Dorontabi
> Literally the first image result is fetish art
Nothing of value lost. Based Korean feminists.

No. 2104200

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>>2104110
She looks like if a mad scientist coomer went nuts fucking around with hamster genetics.
But I see what you mean, there's a difference between this and pic related which is worse imo.

No. 2104316

>>2104200
it looks the same to me

No. 2104337

>>2104200
yeah now THIS looks traced from a real child

No. 2104339

>>2104172
kekk wait i just realized that’s homelander xD hilarious(xD )

No. 2104426

>>2102031
Naoko Takeuchi is a lolicon? well thats a first. Are you sure youre not getting her confused for the creep that worked on the anime?

No. 2104432

>>2104337
I think there are rumours that the artists of this anime really did trace pictures of kids. I hope it's not true.

No. 2104520

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Anyone else find it funny how zoomers are such massive moralfags while also being the biggest weebs? dont get me wrong i am glad faggots like zach and chris are getting cancelled for being friends with shadman, but i just find it hilarious that most of these tweets condemning shadman for drawing loli come from weebs with anime pfp.

No. 2104523

>>2103879
they also have a shit taste, anything that isn't an underage child is considered ugly and masculine by them

No. 2104529

>>2104520
While I agree that zoomers being moralfags while posting about coomer anime is pretty dumb, there's a difference between drawing some loli a 40 year old coomer created and drawing based on a real child.
Imagine being a kid growing up and finding out that someone drew that of you and it exists online.

No. 2104535

>>2104529
I agree. Which makes kiwifags defending zach and chris, who were roomies with shadman no less, sadder. They are crying over their based youtuberinos being super besties with shad and how everyone else they dislike is a pedo but not them, they are ackshually good based bois.

No. 2104628

>>2104146
If white washed characters were gonna kill Genshin, it would have died when Sumeru came out. All the zoomers in the fandom calling out Hoyoverse now are gonna come crawling back to the game after a little while, if they ever left it at all. And even then, Twitter users aren’t representative of the playerbase, there are probably just as many people who don’t give a fuck or don’t even realize there was a controversy in he first place.

No. 2104861

>>2104146
No, this is the 3rd attempted boycott on Genshin. They'll cry for a month and continue playing and the cycle wil repeat. Most of the people complaining aren't even encouraging others to quit the game but just to go F2P and whine on Twitter kek.

No. 2104864

>>2104146
What controversy?

No. 2105091

>>2104864
i don't really go to genshin twitter but apparently they've released an african zone (or chapter?) and none of the characters are darker than beige. but i think maybe it will (maybe, hopefully) have an impact on the playerbase as a lot of the posts i'm seeing are people outright saying they're going to quit

No. 2105128

>>2104520
i feel sorry for kids nowadays that they cant just enjoy anime in a simple manner anymore. Constantly tying to apply politics and morality to each piece of media you consume must wear on the mind eventually.
Feel lucky that the only way i couldve talked to other anime fans back in the day was through deviantart or actual conventions irl.

No. 2106508

>>2096912
I don’t think anon was being asshurt, just pointing out how it’s like the pot calling the kettle black there.

No. 2107148

Does anyone feel like they're walking on eggshells when they're in a woman dominated space? Not here, just anything outside here? It feels like I can't breath without one misstep getting me excommunicated because I misgendered the local tif or if I mention I like fit attractive men, I'm a body negative bigot who should game end herself now. It's getting harder and harder to find a good space with other women that isn't buckbroken by troons and it makes me sad.

No. 2107208

>>2107148
What sort of fandoms do you typically linger in, nona?

No. 2107224

>>2107148
>game end
I think you know why

No. 2107243

>>2107208
SA here's the thing, I don't, not as much as I use to. I chalk it up to communities being such toxic cesspools that even getting whiff could land me on my deathbed. But if you really wanna know #genshin#. I could've used otomes as an example until I realized most niche fandoms have less retards running around compared to mainstream ones.

No. 2107249

>>2107243
>spoiler
Why don't you start by playing a better video game and then the fandom problem should resolve itself

No. 2107270

>>2107243
Ofcourse it was a genshitfag kekkk I love the autismo wars they have

No. 2107392

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>>2107148
>not here
>mentions genshin
>immediately insulted
>was afraid to mention in the first place
I don't think it's a woman dominated thing though because if you look at say, genshin's main sub reddit and say you like scaramouche a bunch of moids will materialize and lecture you about how awful he is depending on the time of day.
It's not genshin specific either, in ff14 spaces for example I have people crawl up my ass not just for liking certain characters, but not liking/disliking them in the "correct" way.
I've gone on this rant before but I wish we had more focused communities with specific mods enforcing shit beyond the standard minimum no spam and illegal stuff, and the design of modern social media feeds stuff to people who aren't interested in it constantly. It makes it harder to find the niche you want, and will attract people who will sperg at you for insulting LITERALLY THEM if you say elezen are ugly because their necks are too long or some shit.
Unironically genshin is better than some of the other stuff I like because it's fuckhuge enough to have some character specific subs, and most shitters I just tell myself are children. When someone spergs at me for LOVING A LITERAL GENOCIDE because I said a villian was funny and I liked him, even though they also like a different genocidal villian just fine, knowing it's a definitely an adult is so much more depressing. I can take banter and ribbing but get over yourself god. It really made me lose interest in ff14 faster since I couldn't even regularly hold a good discussion about the parts I liked.
I feel like you really just have to luck out and find a small group of people/comm that are adults that aren't terminally twitter brained or whatever, but also care enough to have a semblance of regular posting, and have at least a little interest in analysis, and that's really hard right now.
If you're really scared of being "cancelled" all the time though I'd just disconnect entirely. Doesn't seem like it's worth stressing yourself over. Fandom should be fun first and foremost.

No. 2107400

>>2107148
The grass isn't greener on the other side, anon. As someone who used to be into a very male-dominated hobby they got so fucking mad if you disagreed with them to the point they endlessly talked shit about you like a high schooler. And while farmers stereotype female-dominated hobbies as being an ant nest of "SJWs" attacking you for not headcanoning a character as a tranny or something, try being in a male fandom and say a critical word about a clearly underage female character being canonly sexualized and see where that gets you with them. You will be called every misogynist slur in the book and excommunicated for the crime of thinking unconditional male coomery is disgusting.

>>2107392
>When someone spergs at me for LOVING A LITERAL GENOCIDE because I said a villian was funny and I liked him, even though they also like a different genocidal villian just fine
Raidenfags whiteknighting her but screaming at Childe stans will never be not funny. Genshin waifufags are pure cancer, not as bad as Honkaifags, but still pretty horrible.

No. 2107418

>>2107400
Probably will get called out for this but it's much easier to ignore cooming posts than it is to ignore moralfagging tifs and pronouns, at least imo.
Ngl, my experience, sometimes coming at sexualization from an inverse "this doesn't fit the setting or character, it feels tacky" rather than from a pov of morality doesn't get you shit on.

No. 2107435

>>2107392
I left the game a long time ago by a combination of shitty business practices, boring open world gameplay, and all around terrible community. I think saying it's "woman dominated" wasn't the correct choice here but women aren't immune to saying the most retarded shit. It's just online crap though. Moids will happily go onto the streets murdering cats over a bunch of pixels.
>>2107400
I'm straight and every female space I've been to are filled with dick worshipping handmaidens who think it's so gay to shove nbs and troons down everyone's throats or even declare being truly straight is a myth. Rubbed me in all sorts of ways and left almost every community over it. But then you have male dominated groups where if you so much as voice you like men in ways they don't approve of you're labeled a pariah and bullied to insanity. I might as well live in my own small corner because I'm slowly starting to hate everything.
>>2107418
Coom post can be ignored but when you voice a personal preference they take it out to be an attack which says a lot. You're also ignoring moids internalize this sort of stuff while most women know what they see isn't real and don't bring it into real life. The only women I know with perception problems are usually mentally maladjusted.

No. 2107441

>>2107435
>You're also ignoring moids internalize this sort of stuff while most women know what they see isn't real and don't bring it into real life.
I was thinking from a purely "fandom story discussion" pov.

No. 2107477

>>2107418
I agree, men usually don't start witch hunts at least. Fandom TIFs are incredibly thin-skinned and passive-aggressive

No. 2107495

>>2107418
>Probably will get called out for this but it's much easier to ignore cooming posts than it is to ignore moralfagging tifs and pronouns, at least imo.
I firmly believe that people saying this have no actual experience in male-dominated fandoms.

No. 2107538

>>2107495
Ffs, do you want me to give a list of male fandoms I've been in or something?
Frankly, I find it much more likely that people like you would turn away from any male dominated fandom quickly.

No. 2107560

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>>2107148
by being scared of fat tifs who are one angry internet slapfight away from dying of a heart attack you are part of the problem. Be like this based russian artist instead.

No. 2107561

>>2107560
Holy based. Rabid screeching TIFs are kinda scary in numbers but you're right.

No. 2107564

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>>2107561
she's a queen, we really need more women like her in fandom

No. 2107567

>>2107560
This. Boo hoo TIFs are QRTing and calling you names while every single normal person thinks they're being the crazy ones. Scrotes will doxx you, harass you, stalk you, spread deepfake nudes of you, make you genuinely afraid for your physical safety. Remember when that one girl recently made a comic about her art professor who sexually harassed her and scrotes turned it into a coomified fetish and drew porn of her to mock her? Whiny teenage TIFs never get on that level of absolute mentally ill sociopathy.

No. 2107569

>>2107564
I think she stop posting cause her brother was conscripted in the war

No. 2107575

>>2107569
men ruin everything, as always

No. 2107586

>>2107243
As a fellow former genshinfag, you have my empathy. Word of advice: think of the kind of fandom where retarded genderspecials would be the least likely to congregate and see if you have any overlapping interests there. I got into historical dramas and have been living peacefully ever since. Best of luck to you.

No. 2107596

>>2107560
Could lose the mask but way hotter than westernized titchop slop. I want more of this.
>>2107586
Thanks nonna. I'm trying, but it's hard to find media that really clicks without dealing with a community that makes it even worse. Even the less niche fandoms have their fair share of slap fights so it's not all sunshine. Maybe I'm just picky as hell since I'm craving something that speaks to me on a almost primal level, like has my taste in men, has action, drama, romance and character driven moments. but when it does, there's one deal breaker that makes me wanna leave as soon as possible.

No. 2107600

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>>2107596
>Could lose the mask but way hotter than westernized titchop slop
a piece of dog shit is hoter than this tbh

No. 2107601

>>2070640
Late but this lol, you don't see fujobrained troon stantwt drama about Azur Lane or Blue Archive but they're still extremely popular. It's just that moids don't really care about seeming morally just over fiction quite like women do, they just wanna jerk off. BA in particular has an incredibly rabidly passionate fanbase and they're quick to gatekeep against people who do shit like you described because they don't wanna deal with it, they just wanna fap to cunny uohhh

No. 2107603

>>2107601
both those games had drama over the pinch emoji though

No. 2107604

>>2107601
And then threaten the creators of the game with murder and get female developers fired if they think a character is making the pinching gesture. Rational sex everyone!

No. 2107605

>>2107569
She posted on Youtube two days ago

No. 2107609

>>2107392
>When someone spergs at me for LOVING A LITERAL GENOCIDE because I said a villian was funny and I liked him, even though they also like a different genocidal villian just fine
It’s okay you can say Emetfags

No. 2107610

>>2107560
Im confused, how is this based or stacy? Is there context I'm missing

No. 2107615

>>2107603
>>2107604
Not saying they don't have drama in general, just not the kind that nonna was describing as an indicator that a game was popular. Korea is having a heated gender war so of course that would be a problem in BA. Like I said, BA fandom is full of passionate gatekeepers.

No. 2107617

>>2107610
she got harassed by tifs for saying pot bellied men are ugly kek

No. 2107618

>>2107601
>they just wanna fap to cunny uohhh
It doesn't work on moids because they don't have morals,they're playing a pedoshit game why the fuck would they care the consequences of these games and content when it affects mostly girls and women?

No. 2107625

File: 1722108304719.jpg (2.19 MB, 2000x2827, 1000011661.jpg)

>>2107609
How did you know it was the old man fuckers, anon
Have you suffered as I have
Before that it was gross yotsuyu "step on me mommy" types seething that I liked asahi
I'm not saying my taste is good but I am very consistent

No. 2107626

>>2104146
Literally no one cares though. Genshin will still be heavily played and downloaded by non virtue signalers

No. 2107629

>>2107243
I avoid gacha games like the plague but isn't Genshin Impact a single player game? If that's the case I think you should just avoid the fandom altogether, that's what I do for the games and series I like and it's working well for me. It's a lot harder to do that with multiplayer games though so that's why I ask.

No. 2107632

>>2107560
>>2107564
Based AF. We need more women like her. I'm tired of women bending over backwards for the zoomer shits and alphabetards

No. 2107633

>>2107596
>when it does, there's one deal breaker that makes me wanna leave as soon as possible.
Ngl sometimes I want to rec something because I think it's great only to second guess myself because
>isn't the female characters outfit a bit too revealing?
>the male character's art might not be pretty enough
>I'm not sure about the politics…

No. 2107634

>>2107626
>Genshin will still be heavily played and downloaded
I'm sure the ccp officials are cackling that they only needed a zelda bootleg game pasted over their spyware

No. 2107657

>>2107629
It is, but I use to frequent the main subs for news and fanart until got too much. Every hallmark of a bad fandom was here–whining about the character designs, whining about the gender ratios, whining about any hints that a character could be straight, taken, or gay. Now with natlan, everyone is going nuclear over the skin colors and here I am being disappointed that mihoyo once again made the guys not skimpy but the girls were. Being shirtless must be "feminine" to the ccp lol.
>>2107633
>isn't the female characters outfit a bit too revealing?
If it makes you feel better, my threshold for female sexualization tolerance is fairly high and it use to be higher when I was young confused teen. Nowadays I can't stomach content that stares at a women's body parts for too long. A woman with a bit cleavage or a slit dress is fine though, and perferabe to all the coomshit that goes through nikke design office.
>the male character's art might not be pretty enough
I feel my taste is between that of a straight woman's and a gay man's. I don't like skinny bishes but don't like hairy weightlifters either so I'm left with a middle ground that rarely gets executed well. but one thing's for sure, if I feel attraction then the artist and writers knew what they were doing.
>I'm not sure about the politics…
What politics are we talking about? I'm only a smidge left leaning so rightoid talking points never sat right with me but far left tankies glazing their braindead ideologies is equally as annoying. There's also the mentally ill troons. Every single leftist space ahd them.

No. 2107662

>>2107655
>What politics are we talking about?
I was just speaking generally tbh.
I guess something like Genshin Impact's skin color controversy works as an example lol.

No. 2107664

>>2107625
I’m an ex-Zenosfag.
Coomer Yotsuyu fans are the worst. She had potential and I blame the writers for making her like that (FFXIV was never good with female characters)

No. 2107681

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>>2107657
>I don't like skinny bishes but don't like hairy weightlifters either so I'm left with a middle ground that rarely gets executed well.
something like pic rel? if so we have similar taste, although i also like skinny bishies.

No. 2107769

>>2107681
sauce?

No. 2107786

>>2107769
@Af_Cf_

No. 2108006

>>2107148
It’s so unfortunate because of how the issues extend not only to fandom but to other hobby/interest communities, you have to always perform morality. You have to always include everyone.
The things that could get me in trouble (opinions about trans movement/real world conflicts or politics) I just keep to myself because it’s not worth It, but I don’t really care about most remaining things. I don’t mind being viewed as callous, gatekeeper, or even annoying for correcting false information.

No. 2108184

File: 1722135347210.jpeg (304.06 KB, 1920x1080, IMG_8107.jpeg)

What are your guys’ thoughts on the new belial skin for gbfvs? I saw some moids on twitter whining about it and asking for female micro bikini skins. It’s hilarious how you have thousands of franchises out there where the women are sexualized to hell and forth but when one male character suddenly gets the same treatment these faggots act like they’re being oppressed.

No. 2108186

>>2108184
i am so happy of the positive influence nucani is having on mainstream gachas

No. 2108386

>>2108184
Really don't get it. You're meaning to tell me one guy getting the gooner treatment means no more cute anime women in bikinis? what sort of logic is that? I'm actually happy we're getting fanservice years of fat anime tiddies getting shoved down all our throats kek.

No. 2108405

>>2108386
*after years (apolgises)

No. 2108416

>>2108184
absolutely delighted. males need to be objectified and made into sluts. that's just how it is.

No. 2108419

>>2108184
Holy shit, that’s hot. Never heard of this game before, but when I tell you that it’s about to hear of ME… kek

No. 2108428

File: 1722157370517.png (2.79 MB, 2000x1125, 434g.png)

>>2108419
hope you enjoy it, nonna! there are some very slutty males in this game (especially belial from the pic above, his whole thing is literally about being an uninhibited whore and he has the summer card in picrel on the right where you can basically see his balls)
they also today just revealed summer beelzebub who is straight up fully nude. you have to deal with a lot of boobyshit on the female characters side of things but honestly the dudes are all pretty awesome husbandos. there's probably at least one you'll love.

No. 2108563

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No. 2108568

>>2108184
Belial isn't even one of my favourite guys from gbf and I don't care about versus but I absolutely love this.

No. 2108628

>>2108428
I fucking love men (2d)

No. 2108661

>>2108184
Skimpy guys do absolutely nothing to me (not a lesbian) but kudos to the Granblue team.

No. 2108719

>>2108661
Wouldn't not like seeing a man's body make you more likely to be a lesbian?

No. 2108728

>>2108719
I'm bi but the male body does absolutely nothing to me, I only like my husbandos when they are clothed.

No. 2108739

>>2108728
This doesn't go against what I said tbh.

No. 2108760

>>2108661
well it does but I'm straight as hell.

No. 2108913

>>2108661
why does everytime some slutty guy is announced some anon has to make it about herself

No. 2108948

>>2108913
It’s the newfag urge to let everyone know how conservatively and modestly you desire the opposite sex for non-existent moralfaggy brownie points. I for one would drag my wet pussy down his rock-hard abdomen until the carpet burns clean off, but each to their own.

No. 2108951

>>2108948
kek, same. Its so annoying too, fully clothed men are the norm jesus let anons into slutty men enjoy one single victory without making it about yourself.

No. 2108952

Testament in Strive makes me feel dread and sickness

No. 2108977

>>2108952
I hate the womanly hips they gave him.

No. 2109006

>>2108913
>>2108948
I mean, op literally asked for anons thoughts lol >>2108184

No. 2109215

File: 1722200774258.png (10.84 KB, 610x103, mr beast fujoshi.png)

the anons who suffered for an entire month when the mr beast yaoi drawing was OP have been avenged. This must be her 9/11, i hope she learns and never draws troons and youtubers again.

No. 2109242

>>2108184
Sexy as hell and this should be the norm for all male characters from now on

No. 2109251

>>2108184
Moid logic be like
> Um have you noticed that men have never made a big deal about He-Man??? WE don't care about fanservice lol, imagine being sad that people think you're sexy, make your own hot characters if you care so much
> NO NOT LIKE THAT REEEEE

No. 2109258

>>2109215
The first thing I did when I heard about this was to run to her profile to see if she would try to defend him and write a whole manifesto on his defense. Luckily, I only found that tweet. I guess I'm happy for her. Hope she learns her lesson.

No. 2109327

>>2104520
not into chainsaw man as I am an adult, but everything I've come across from this anime indicates that the writer is just a regular ole coomer with a femdom fetish. It's so funny seeing the retarded female fandom whine about how he's "one of the few good and serious representations of male victims of grooming :(((" and it couldn't be more obvious that its just the moid author cooming to it as usual kek. when will animanga fans learn.(emoji)

No. 2109344

>>2108948
consider becoming a poet tbh

No. 2109499

>>2108184
The fucking boots with the toe cut outs are so hilariously retarded i hope all the straight footfag anons that are lurking in the shadows get to rejoice.

No. 2109542

File: 1722222647715.jpeg (1.28 MB, 784x784, EB976C57-3AC6-4A48-AE5B-2EE424…)

>>2108952
honestly, i feel the same way. he used to be such an attractive character with an interesting personality and backstory, and now he is nothing but an ugly e-thot with a cringey top hat and the nu-testament fans only give a fuck about his thighs and him being ~nonbinary~, i don't even see what is androgynous about his new design? he just looks like a slut straight off of r/goth, there is no masculinity to balance the femininity at all.

also he plays like shit in strive, but everyone does in that game. not to sound like a moid, but its truly a soulless redesign.

No. 2109951

>>2109327
Chainsaw man’s female fans on twitter are some of dumbest retards alive. Its one thing to just like the manga for what it is but its another to pretend like its a profound piece on male victims of SA. CSMfags in general lack the self awareness to realize fatjimoto is still drawing shounen slop with shit art.

No. 2109961

>>2109951
> "Chainsaw Man is an accurate and profound piece of art for male molestation victims!"
> "Male molestation victim" is a horny retard who shrugs off any and all trauma the moment he gets to touch titties
Unintentionally based take of them kek

No. 2109969

>>2109951
they have to justify why they like reading media where a naïf male experiences sex for the first time. fujimoto is self-inserting into denji and eroticizing "first-time" experiences as well.

No. 2110010

>>2109951
They've built a version of Fujimoto that doesn't even exist in their minds. They genuinely think he's on some anti-capitalist queer feminist shit just because CSM has a few deeper themes than the average battle shounen (not a tall bar to pass). It's so retarded.

No. 2110240

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Anyone else here annoyed with the moralfagging over (usually male) characters ages in fandom spaces? I’m not even talking about shota stuff here, I’m talking about teenagers who are adults in everything except for the fact they’re teens in order to appeal to the main demographic. Like I saw some woman drawing bakudeku yaoi and cue moralfags crying over how they’re 16. The greatest irony of it all? They’re usually fans of works made by moids that sexualize minors themselves like chainsaw man (discussed above) and evangelion. This seems to be a mostly Anglo problem though because Hispanics and easterners from what I’ve seen don’t give a fuck.

No. 2110278

>>2110240
I'm annoyed how those fans ignore the sexualisation of female characters but they have a point. Deku looks underage and not like an adult, he looks younger compared to the adults in bnha. I'm actually more annoyed by fans who defend being attracted to 16 year olds but will call someone attracted to a 13 year old a pedophile as if they’re any better.

No. 2110341

>>2110278
>Deku looks underage and not like an adult
please go back. The manga itself sexualizes the underage female characters.

No. 2110350

>>2110341
Right, the only reason it's wrong to be attracted to Deku is that he's an annoying uggo.

No. 2110395

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>>2110341
I’m not denying that it sexualizes the underage female characters. I don’t care if women sexualise Deku as long as they don’t moralfag about sexualising younger characters because he looks far from adult.

No. 2110396

File: 1722288069079.jpeg (476.54 KB, 828x1063, IMG_8118.jpeg)

Fujos somehow manage to make everything about their gay fantasies, mind you the athlete in this pic is suffering from diaphragm issues.

No. 2110399

>>2110396
Newsflash everyone has been posting this gay shit, not just fujos

No. 2110400

>>2110396
Based. If you wanna handmaiden out over your poor mwoids go back to your containment thread

No. 2110403

>>2110396
sexualize that scrote! objectify that scrote!

No. 2110407

>>2110396
>male in pain
hot

No. 2110411

>>2110396
I only watch the olympics for shit like this. The gymnasts have banger bods.

No. 2110422

>>2110396
This is common shit in fandoms.Sports moids have always been used for ships or otps. There was a tweet that went viral when two mma fighter made out with their own fucking blood.

No. 2110427

>>2110422
men are gay…

No. 2110443

>>2110422
men will see this and go ''omg so manly so kakoi so funny!!!'' and then think washing their ass is gay

No. 2110456

>>2110422
The vampire lover in me sees this as an intimate, ardent display of love. If I had a vampire bf or gf, I would love to experience this. I imagine that the one on top is the vampire and he tackled the bottom one and fed from him after a long time apart. The blood smearing is an impulsive decision made from the adrenaline and passion of finally reuniting with his human lover
I'm not a fujo or anything btw, my vampire attraction is clouding my vision..

No. 2110626

>>2110396
I just saw a quote of that tweet saying "it's wrong to sexualize this situation it's a real guy who's suffering from a real injury" and I somewhat agree but then I remembered that almost everyone who liked the video was either girls or women, who tend to be sexualized and even sexually assaulted by men far more often as soon as they go outside. Then I stopped giving a shit out of principle.

No. 2110638

>>2110626
It's always the same thing, TiFs and handmaidens/pickmes being mad at women acting like evil fiends who dare to voice anything about feeling any sort of arousal.
But then you had people defending some retard posting "me and who hurrdurr" memes with a moid choking a woman to death. Where were those retards when moids were talking about how totally valid is it to want to choke a woman while having sex? Ah, right, they were too busy retweeting retarded shit like gofundmes and shitty fanart.
It's the same issue over and over again, women can't have/like anything.

No. 2110663

>>2110396
>>2110422
spoiler disgusting 3dpd

No. 2110677

>>2110396
Even if he was the video still looked pretty sensual. People quotes and replies were acting like he was moments from dying but he's fine.

No. 2110687

>>2110456
i can’t stop laughing. go live your vampire dream nona

No. 2110832

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I just randomly wanted to say I am sick of weird supposed fans into JJk who are completely against sexualizing Gojo. Like, they openly go on social media to shame women who sexualize Gojo. Even worse are the pick mes who side with men about it. just fuck em. I will continue to sexualize him, because that's what the lord would want. They need to save this kind of energy for men into anime

No. 2110844

>>2110832
Fandom has been such a shitshow since anime went mainstream. I’m so exhausted I wish anime was uncool again.

No. 2110846

>>2110832
Please get better taste in husbandos

No. 2110847

>>2110396
Ship prompts are for any ships not just gay ones you retard lol

No. 2110849

>>2110832
Moralfags will act like you molested someone if you sexualize the male characters in jjk meanwhile you have men who do the same thing with female characters that are sometimes underaged and even look like straight up children. But nooooo muh female gooners.

It’s funny when people act like you’re supposed to take these characters seriously as if they aren’t from some mid shonenslop, coom is the only thing jjk moids are good for who gaf

No. 2110923

>>2110844
I wish fandom as whole was uncool again.

No. 2110953

>>2110846
NTA, I think Gojo is meh too in terms of characterization (his looks are 9/10, though). But I will forever encourage his autistic fangirls, I have never seen a male anime character be husbandoed this hard and it's obvious MAPPA is milking him for all its worth. We need more husbandofag material like him.

No. 2110977

>>2110923
if you humble yourself it always feels uncool tbh

No. 2111519

>>2110832
>"Nooo! How dare straight women read a manga and find the ikemen characters hot!! How dare they?! Wtf do they mean by "Nanami is husband material"!!?? How dare you post fanart of Gojo and Geto kissing!!! Women are as bad as men!"
>then rt NSFW fanart of Nobara or Maki every five seconds
I can't take this fandom seriously, I just stick to follow Japanese and Korean fanartists. On the other hand I've seen some men finding women having some of these characters as husbandos or shipping them together understandable or debating over who's the uke and who's the seme, for once.

No. 2111523

>>2110953
>it's obvious MAPPA is milking him for all its worth
It's because they can't whore out Viktor anymore. I think it's even more obvious with Geto, you'd think he's a main character with how much merchs he gets but he barely shows up even if his role has an indirect big impact on the story.

No. 2111645

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I think you should kill yourself

No. 2111653

>>2111645
back in my days these people would have been called out for shilling their fetish when no one asked

No. 2111658

>>2110832
hes so fucking ugly but i agree, what’s wrong w sexualizing anime characters? they’re not real. i mean, when the characters are underage it’s disgusting but if its an adult character literally what’s there to even criticize? they always complain about kink shaming when it comes to brutal bdsm shit but as soon as your kink is an actually harmless one (thirsting over 2d characters) they want to start shaming kek

No. 2111665

>>2111645
I did this to myself in real life with sheer willpower

No. 2111693

>>2111645
Fucking disgusting. My husbando is from an anime that's forgotten about nowadays, but sometimes a tif finds it and starts creating heinous fanart of him being fat and hairy. Sometimes they even draw him with curly hair for no reason kek what the fuck. If you like hairy fatsos so much then step outside you freak. No need to ruin beautiful 2d bishies with this shit

No. 2111744

>>2111693
Could I ask who?

No. 2111769

>>2108184
amazing but i don't understand why they leave out the nipples… you've already gone so far

No. 2111779

>>2110427
came here to bait and say that wasn't gay but the video is them in a position i have only seen in doujinshi so ok

No. 2111790

>>2111645
ntyfag

No. 2111855

>>2111645
I saw that tweet earlier on twitter itself and block that account at the speed of light. If I wanted to see hideous bigfoot looking men I could just go outside.

No. 2111924

>>2111645
Look, body hair is fine, but taking a canonically hairless character and aging them by 10 years is cringe. The psyop keeps marching on.

No. 2111981

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>>2110832
Honestly I don't care for him but it's hilarious to see the moid reaction to women doing shit like picrel. So many men used to do weird shit like calculating the surface area of a female character's ass and other degenerate shit, so it's nice to see them have a taste of their own medicine

No. 2112004

Lately I've noticed people taking unreliable narrators completely straight, it's so stupid.
>character says he's terrible and evil, clearly out of pure self loathing
>omg this guy is so terrible and evil he said it so that's the case
>completely disregard any nuance or discussion because "he's terrible and evil, it says so"

No. 2112010

>>2111981
I love female autism so much, this is the shit that keeps me alive.

No. 2112022

>>2112004
media literacy is dead, nonna. people have lost the ability to think critically (or think at all)

No. 2112030

People tend to say there's no drama with Asian people in fandom but goddamn I'm tired of some Chinese and Japanese artists in the fandom I'm involved in. It feels like they all have undiagnosed BPD which shows from the constant need for validation, if they don't get it they delete all their shit for attention, make a huge deal out of it and then post it again. Also they always take it so fucking personally if someone likes character A x character B instead character B x character A.

No. 2112032

>>2112030
I don't tend to follow closely or get involved with Asian artists, but I have noticed how whenever I look for art of some Asian artist, that person most of the times just nukes the shit out of his/her(let's be honest it's mostly her) accounts and the art becomes impossible to trace, other than some old screenshot that was posted on 2006 with a shaky blackberry camera.

No. 2112037

>>2112032
I understand nuking if you're quitting social media but then they always go to their 6th side account, and then after a while back to the main account, it's impossible to keep up with them sometimes and then they complain when their shit doesn't go viral or enough likes.

No. 2112073

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>>2111645
One of the comments mentioned this artist getting harassed for doing that. Crazy how waifucels will not put up with this kind of thing in fanart while women usually stay quiet or pretend to also like bodyhair when someone draws their husbando in a similar way

No. 2112083

>>2111519
Forgot to add, I bet a lot of men being disgusted by women saying any of the male characters in JJK are hot are also the type to post shit like "I wish I were Ui Ui so Mei Mei could molest me" yes I've seen posts like this before and I need these low IQ males to realize how hypocritical they sound.

No. 2112100

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>>2112030
Online it's easy to avoid this kind of drama even by accident thanks to the language barrier, but I've seen some issues related to irl activities. Everytime there's an official event in Japan like an exhibit or a collab cafe there are a lot of Chinese scalpers ruining things for others, hoarding several seats alone so they can buy more merchs than the limit for one customers by taking advantage of online reservations systems, reselling merchs online for outrageous prices which forces these events to plan official online sales, etc. See pic related but I wish I could find the tweet about the same event about one Chinese scalper going to the JJK cafe, ordering 50 drinks, only drinking a few ones and taking all the paper decorations on the straws to resell them online. I wish I could find more about cons in Asian countries besides popular artists with lots of followers just advertising their new doujinshi.

No. 2112112

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>>2112100
For context, I'm talking about the small round pieces of paper with characters printed on them like here. I hope nobody buys that shit with real money online because this is pathetic. I've also seen a viral tweet recently about a scalper selling second hand badges on one super popular character from this event and sending badges of a different character later.

>>2112032
>>2112037
My first thought was that Chinese Hellsing fan whose husbando is the obese blond nazi. She had so many accounts in total that I never know what she's up to.

No. 2112117

>>2112083
You know that's impossible
>men are women are just different because men are people

No. 2112132

>>2111981
I love female autism and I don't care about how much of a shit husbando Gojo is because of it

No. 2112173

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>>2112073
>while women usually stay quiet or pretend to also like bodyhair
Because women are afraid. Men aren't.
Men don't care if they are called homophobic, transphobic, racist, nazi, bigot, etc. They are proud of it.
And that's why gendies are afraid of them.

No. 2112192

>>2112173
Imagine glazing the misogynistic critical drinker just because he hates trannies

No. 2112193

>>2111981
Magnificent
>>2112173
Do they got doxxed and their careers ruined in same amount as women?

No. 2112195

>>2112030
People think there's no drama because they can't read and they aren't used to the way Asian artists sometimes interact with social media. You're a lot more likely to see Asian artists stick to just posting art with no commentary whatsoever, but they (or at least Chinese fans) get into personal wars just as intensely as English speakers. It was strange when I started learning Chinese and began understanding that an artist I liked was constantly posting about her broken family and mental illness and deleting her shit.

No. 2112199

>>2112192
I don't like him, I'm using him as an example. yes, he's misogynistic and transphobic. yet he still has a platform and is a very popular youtuber. don't you see it nona? men are untouchable.

No. 2112201

>>2112199
Wasn't there some controversy over him seemingly praising bad Disney slop recently? Or defending race swapping of characters?

No. 2112209

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>>2112201
Nta but even if there was, he still has a thriving platform, the amount of backlash isn't that bad if he has over 2 million subscribers

No. 2112214

>>2112201
I don't know, I've never seen his videos even though they constantly pop up on my YouTube feed. But apparently despite the controversies all of his social media accounts are active like >>2112209 pointed. I highly doubt they'd be able to ban him from the internet for any controversy. The only reason you can ban a man completely from the internet is for possession of cp or if he goes to jail. And yet Shadman keeps his twitter account despite being the most problematic artist on the internet. I can name many more, and they all still keep their jobs and platforms. While mildly problematic women get harassed, doxxed, fired, etc. for much less.

No. 2112238

>>2112030
Tbf when people say asian fandoms are better they mostly just mean they don't have to see it visually.
When there's drama, there's always a need to draw it in comic form and fill their twitter with screenshots instead of leaving it off the media tab for some reason.

No. 2112242

>>2112199
Isn't this because terminally online women spend more energy doxxing and shitting on other women who think out of line instead of directing that energy towards scrotes like him? Like actually imagine for a minute if all these fandom TIFs and anti spergs used their 20 hours of scrolling a day to ruin the lives of moids who profit off hating women

No. 2112243

>>2110626
The difference is that injury was consented. Those idiots are paid to injure each other. They have a referee literally there to ensure it's within their fucking rules. Men came up with these dumb sports, they willingly go to them to get theis faces smashed and now we're supposed to feel bad for their stupid decisions? These are made by men, for men. Yet when some deviant woman DARES to sexualize that she's wrong. But all the violent porn made by men and for men that uses women is ok. I wished fandoms weren't so cluttered with pickmes. I swear to god, every fandom is filled with moralfagging pickmes or a those who defend male coom shit, because they think they are the hot waifu or whatever.

No. 2112245

>>2112201
It was the opposite he defended that race swaping shouldn't be done to cultures where it doesn't make sense I think it was around when the little mermaid came out then for the cleopatra rewriting history. There were some twitter callouts of him being racist for this,Nothing happened ofcourse

No. 2112271

>>2112242
If they focused on that, mossacannibalis would already be in prison because in South Korea the possession of lolicon material is equal to the possession of cp and he has a public account full of loli drawings.

No. 2112311

>>2112100
Holyshit, that's insane.

No. 2112312

>>2111981
It makes me laugh how much Gojo makes dudes seethe because so many women like him.

No. 2112314

>>2110849
Based. It's true. JJk barely has a story outside of itadori eating fingers and then endless fighting. I'm gonna sexualize these dumb whores if I want to. Anyone trying to defend JJK for being a genuinely good show/manga is smoothbrain. Gege has no idea how to write characters outside of a few tropes.

>>2110844
>>2110923
I miss when anime wasnt mainstream tbh

No. 2112318

>>2111693
This. Why tf would I want anime or read manga for fat, hairy men? 2D will always be better than 3D for a reason.

No. 2112322

>>2112312
That and he’s a tall prettyboy chad, he brings out every insecurity in most men. If he was more unconventional looking, I doubt many of them would be as upset.

No. 2112339

>>2112314
>Gege has no idea how to write characters outside of a few tropes.
No he can write some characters well, but he gets them killed all the time.

No. 2112380

>>2112339
Same anon from previous post. I agree with you. I dont know why he killed off his best characters and now we're left with scraps
I literally wanted more Nanami and I'm still salty about it. Same with Nobara.

No. 2112565

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>>2112030
>>2112032
anons, dl hitomi mass download that shit before its too late. I have like 20 galleries that are completly lost media(not archived on danbooru or gelbooru) in my HDD because i am a digital hoarder

No. 2112654

In the situation where the series itself is pretty great but the fanbase is below dogshit, the absolute worst retards to deal with, do you still drop the content or do you just avoid the fanbase?

No. 2112751

>>2112654
>drop the content
Why would you drop a series because of the fanbase? Or do you mean showing fan content? I just avoid the fanbase and keep enjoying the series and any fanart I make to myself.

No. 2112810

>>2112654
I usually avoid the fandom, but sometimes I feel I have to drop the content. It depends on how good the content is or if it suddenly begins to pander to the people.
>>2112751
I have to admit that sometimes I've been weak enough that a shitty fandom will ruin the content for me. I feel this way with the current House of the Dragon fandom. But what helps me is talking to people who aren't online or active on social media because they always have a better understanding of the plot and characters.

No. 2112992

>>2112271
mossacannabis is impossible to doxx because he doesnt post about himself

No. 2113247

>>2112992
he has posted selfies multiple times, posted screenshots of his birth date, and his fanbox most likely (certainly) has his bank account/paypal information

No. 2113251

>>2113247
>he has posted selfies multiple times
post them

No. 2113261

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No. 2113262

>>2113261
you sure thats him? can you post a link to the tweet?

No. 2113263

>>2113261
Someone (not lolcow.farm specifically, pls no ban) should doxx him before he molests girls in real life.

No. 2113264

>>2113263
i wish kiwifags would do something useful for once and do it

No. 2113266

>>2113262
the twitter gallery doesn't let me go further but here's a pick of him
https://x.com/mossacannibalis/status/1718158051348545707/photo/1

No. 2113267

>>2113266
thanks, damn hes greasy

No. 2113279

>>2113266
Try using nitter then.

No. 2113285

>>2113262
these are all the pics i could find
https://files.catbox.moe/4ki6q0.rar

No. 2113290

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>>2113285
screenshot of his date of birth

No. 2113313

>>2113264
>Implying Kiwifags give a shit about pedos and aren't pedos themselves.

No. 2113376

>>2113313
kiwis hate lolifags tho

No. 2113462

>>2113376
But some of their users are literally animefags with a crippling waifu addiction. They're not above being hypocrites.

No. 2113466

>>2113376
Have you seen the vtumour thread? Most of the scrotes love gura the loli vtuber there. The scrotes will do nothing

No. 2113651

>>2113376
scrotes will point with one hand and jack off with the other. their outrage means jack shit

No. 2113722

>>2113651
Yea when moids are cancelling somebody its not because they are actually outraged its because they need an excuse to dox and send illegal crap to somebody.

No. 2113731

>>2112199
Doesn't this have more to do with what fanbase you have? I don't doubt gender influences it but it's not the main factor. The majority of his viewers have the same anti-SJW/centrist opinions as him, obviously they won't care if he's transphobic. It'd be the same for people like Shoeonhead too, maybe you'll have a few people raging because she markets herself somewhat as a liberal but the vast majority of her fans wouldn't care if she went turbotransphobic since it's not like many leftists watch her.

No. 2113791

>>2113466
God, fuck that thread. When they're not sperging about male vtubers catering towards women, they're wanking it to feet smells without being ousted as a lolcow.

No. 2113803

>>2113791
>sperging about male vtubers catering towards women

Kek, they do that?

No. 2113851

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>>2113285
>>2113290
yeah this is him kek what an ugly scrote but kiwifags won't do shit

No. 2114218

>>2111645
But only to female characters

No. 2114345

>>2113462
>>2113466
>>2113651
i know i know i am just saying a part of the userbase is very anti lolifags, they recently made a thread on pipa and doxxed her

No. 2114970

>>2114345
>they recently made a thread on pipa and doxxed her
>her
And there you have why they doxxed that person.

No. 2115258

>>2114970
Pippa is a /vt/ and /pol/ panderer, I highly doubt gender is the issue. They dox anyone for fun even if they don't hate them

No. 2116150

>>2111645
I'm starting to think that "ugly man psyop" thread has a point lol. Recently my fandom released some official drawings of the characters taking showers/baths (it's an otome game). Yet there were people complaining about the characters being "too in shape" or "attractive," which lead to some of the most horrendous (but hilarious) pictures imaginable.

No. 2116226

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>DO NOT DRAW INCEST
You’re not the boss of me

No. 2116231

>>2116226
are you that falin/laios fag from /m/

No. 2116232

>>2116231
No I think dunmeshi is cringe as fuck.

No. 2116233

>>2116231
That anon sounds based

No. 2116243


No. 2116256

>>2116226
They will take selfcest over my cold dead body.

No. 2116265

>>2116256
What is even the appeal of that? Lol, genuine question. A corrupted form of self-love?

No. 2116273

>>2116265
>your own clone, now neither of you will be virgins
>an alternate universe version of yourself to fuck
>getting real excited looking into the mirror
All possible selfcest outcomes

No. 2116274

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>>2116265
You’ll figure it out

No. 2116279

>>2116265
For me it's the angsty evil sexy version saying really mean but true things.

No. 2116280

>>2116274
KEK THE FILE NAME

No. 2116281

>>2116274
That image causes me physical pain

No. 2116418

>>2116274
It still perplexes me this was popular eons ago.

No. 2116869

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>>2109969
I literally just saw an ig reel where the poster said they couldn't get into the story due to the fanservice and a bunch of zoomers were crying in the comments that it's "not fanservice"

The creator HIMSELF has admitted the femdom rape stuff is a fetish for him, but even if he didnt, the same people denying it are also the exact same group that can clock things like picrel as obvious fetish art, but for some reason refuse to admit any of the gooner content in csm is in fact gooner content.

No. 2116870

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No. 2116937

Whats the spergiest fandom policing you have ever witnessed? For me it was a TIF trying to keep the South Park fandom ''minor friendly'' kek.

No. 2116942

>>2070160
based @reijiishioda

No. 2116972

>>2114970
Pippa is a known lolicoomer polfag pickme who has had friends who were actual pedophiles himepen shes actively made jokes about women fucking dogs,fucking 12 year old children and "foid" humour.she cultivated that audience that doxxes anyone so it shouldn't be a surprise they doxxed her in turn.its not because shes a woman it's because she's a retard and she's possibly a handmaiden considering she's dating a troon

No. 2116979

>>2116274
Good times

No. 2116987

>>2112243
Scrotes sexualize the women in women's sports 10000000 times worse. In fact, some women's sports have obviously misogynistic elements such as shorter shorts for the female teams vs male teams. I mean, other than male boners, is there a reason why women in race walk must wear shorter shorts than the men? What the fuck? It's such a small but fucked up detail I noticed. Why have moids' sports uniform shorts gotten longer but women's sometimes look like underwear? And then there's shit like women's American football… I was looking at pictures of female MMA fighters and of course a lot of them have to wear makeup and look sexy even though they're paid to beat each other up to near-death and make each other bleed. Do the scrotes in the same "sport" do that? No, they gotta look cool and badass all the time without being hot on purpose because then they would scare all their smegmoid audience. And of course there's "top 10 most beautiful female MMA fighters" kind of lists everywhere. Even ignoring all the sexualization, women's sports in general aren't taken as seriously as men's sports. Considering all this, it's not all that bad if some women get off to a random hot athlete in pain being hot. Scrotums get off to much, much worse shit.
>>2110396
Me on the right
>>2110456
Me too nona don't worry
>>2110849
>meanwhile you have men who do the same thing with female characters that are sometimes underaged and even look like straight up children.
It's been so disgustingly normalized to sexualize and absolutely fetishize the fuck out of the whole concept of high-schoolgirls (sometimes middle schoolgirls) in otaku culture. Doing that used to be considered lolicon, shameful and immoral and it even felt illegal, but now nobody bats a fucking eye. The pedophile moids won. But women and even underage teenage girls are absolutely forbidden from being horny over fictional oniisans/young adult men, or male characters that don't even look underage (but bishoujo are the opposite, of course). Scrotes sexualize anything and everything so sexualizing and fetishizing the pain and suffering of fictional AND REAL women/girls is a piece of cake for them. But god forbid if you want to fuck the poor traumatized 2D biseinen that's being milked for all those delicious fujo and yumebucks by its own copyright holders!!
>But nooooo muh female gooners.
I can't believe this term is actually being used for FEMALE TEENAGERS whose worst crime was being publicly attracted to an attractive character. First time I found out about that term being stripped of its original meaning was when I stumbled upon this video.
Gooner used to mean a scrote who spends the entire day and the entire week masturbating non-stop while watching puke-inducing amounts of explicit, real pornography. An extreme form of porn addiction and chronic masturbation seen only in males. How the fuck did scrotes manage to make it mean "girl who wants to fuck random bishie"?

No. 2116990

>>2110396
I know and it's ultra based.

No. 2116996

>>2116987
The recent "hag" trend made me realize just how teenage waifus are so far normalized that female characters in their early to mid 20's are considered "older women" and "mature". It's damn near treated as a fetish if you prefer women closer to your age as an adult, characters in their early 30's might just as well be grandmas.

>I can't believe this term is actually being used for FEMALE TEENAGERS whose worst crime was being publicly attracted to an attractive character. First time I found out about that term being stripped of its original meaning was when I stumbled upon this video.

Reminds me of the tweet I saw earlier that in all seriousness claimed that teenage fujos are just as bad as incels which almost made me reply asking how many fujos have driven a car into a crowd because a man didn't fuck them. The double standards are baffling.

No. 2117004

>>2116937
The CARTOON itself isn't minor Friendly. These people are so retarded

No. 2117013

>>2116937
>non poc people shouldn't make fanart of poc characters
I will draw what I want thank you
>that moid from chainsawman shouldn't be used in bl doujins
The author is a lolifag and into femdom and the problem here is bl?
>if you genderbend a female character without titscars you are twanspbobic!

No. 2117483

>>2116996
>teenage waifus are so far normalized that female characters in their early to mid 20's are considered "older women" and "mature". It's damn near treated as a fetish if you prefer women closer to your age as an adult, characters in their early 30's might just as well be grandmas.
Meanwhile there's no shortage of (very young) older man worshippers in female-dominated fandoms.

No. 2117619

>>2117483
i hate those bitches, they are such pickmes. I once called my husbando a hag(he's 25) and they started sperging over it, saying hes not a hag or old blah blah, like holy shit its just a meme you dont need to spend every microsecond white knighting men. Meanwhile men call 19yos hags and no one sees a problem with it.

No. 2117639

I’ve never heard of this “hag” meme/trend and I don’t know if I do, seems like weebs are making the west more and more like Japan

No. 2117732

>>2117639
its basically just milf but without children

No. 2117975

>>2116972
elsborate on dating a troon?

No. 2117982

Called a character "a little shit" and got "called out" by a popular fandom blog for my "racist behavior." Made all these call out posts tagging me about him being a "traumatized brown kid" and how my words are harmful towards abuse victims, sending their retarded followers after me in the process after I told them, in so little words, to fuck off and that I'll say whatever the hell I want. Realize that the little shit comment was in jest and everything else I said was me agreeing that I liked the character, but they completely glossed over that. And before you even ask, it was regarding Damian Wayne/Robin. The Batman/Batfam fandom is fucking annoying, especially since most of them don't even read the comics or know the lore.

No. 2118180

>>2114345
they also recently defended shadman so..

No. 2118636

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>>2107662
I don't get why they bother. It's a Chinese company and yeah do this shit. It's just something they have to accept rather than getting upset

No. 2118639

>>2117982
shit is brown and that's racist. stop shitting now!

No. 2118640

>>2118180
they did? when? i thought all of them were anti shadman, they had a thread on him and all

No. 2118645

>>2117982
i could tell you were talking about damian just by reading the first two sentences. him being a little shit is what makes him charming i don't know why it would be controversial to call him that

No. 2118653

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>>2118645
speaking of damian, his discourse on skin color is so fucking bizarre to witness. It's as if wokies have unironically accepted a 'one drop rule,' where even if you have the slightest non-white ancestry, you are portrayed as the darkest shade of brown possible. It seems like every depiction I've seen of him borders on being racist propaganda, anjd they get so mad when you show them actual half arab people who usually either look white or very light-skinned middle eastern people

No. 2118654

>>2118636
Why are they hype-fixating on africa? It's based on latam and polynesia as well but I see edits where they're way darker. If mihoyo just made natlan spain inspired none of this would've happened kek.

No. 2118663

>>2118653
I have literally seen comics where Damian is darker skinned that Talia kek it makes absolutely no sense. However the most absurd coloring of a character is Helena Bertinelli who is supposed to be Italian-American but she looks blacker than actual black characters? So stupid. At least fanon depictions are done by people who think being non-white is a moral quality, I expect better from people who are paid to draw.

No. 2118674

>>2118663
Since around the 2010's, there's been an influx of younger writers (who usually have roots in fandom) writing for major series and it hasn't been great. A lot of the time they push their OCs or turn established characters into their OCs.

No. 2118685

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>>2118653
It reminds me of how wokies who live countries without any gypsies get upset over the lack of "roma representation." The fact is overwhelmingly, most gypsies are mixed in their home countries and usually come from the balkans or southern and eastern europe, but they don't even mention those actors, they always cast actors from India

No. 2118700

>>2118674
Coming from fandom shouldn't necessarily make you write stupid things. And if it does, editors should be there to stop you. I literally do not understand the fans' constant demands for more and more characters becoming arbitrary ethnicities and sexualities, and the constant push the people in charge to give them what they want. When does this stop? When every single character who was historically white and straight has been turned into brown and queer? And does it actually help sell more comics?

No. 2118703

>>2117982
Damian Wayne fucking sucks. I don't care about that mini-moid's trauma

No. 2118714

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>>2118700
mot really, but the industry is stuck in a feedback loop, this is because the vast majority of journalists are usually progressives, so they will praise whatever "queer" series comes out and it might even win awards. but no one actually reads them, so the series gets cancelled.
here's an example, the einsier awards are basically the highest recognition for western comics. It used to actually mean something once, with most of the winners being genuinely good indie comics or unique elseworld tales. but now the stories that get nominated and win are usually two types: either self-indulgent autobiographical comics about the creators lives and their never-ending "traumas" or pretentious "queer coming of age stories"

No. 2118735

>>2118700
I would kill to hear actual insider testimonials if it's crusty stakeholders in suits demanding all these black vitiligo pansexual bigender characters or if it's genuinely creatively bankrupt writers who don't know how to write character conflict and thus resort to minority stress being the go-to crutch every time. Because I want to give these tumblr-grown fandom graduates the benefit of the doubt, making all these extremely on-the-nose versions has to be the result of some marketing chart guy strong-arming people into creating garbage that represents and pleases no one.

No. 2119342

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How do you make friends in fandom spaces when you’re a terf but cursed with the degeneracy (only inflicted on males) that would make a tranny shudder in horror? I’m a fujo as well and technically a “proshipper” but I think the label is dumb but everyone in those types of places that don’t give two fucks about fiction are the most annoying people ever. It’s like you can’t even find degen fujos that don’t have brain poison from gendie nonsense or having to make their degeneracy moral (ie: muh coping with trauma) and they’re usually pickmes as well. As much as I love using IBs for the anonymity I really wish I could befriend those people because it’s the only place where you can find someone that’s both a fujo and politically incorrect. Hope this makes sense I’m phoneposting rn kek

No. 2119355

>>2119342
>proshipper
stopped reading there

No. 2119387

>>2119342
Just stop being a degenerate.

No. 2119393

>>2119342
What makes you proship exactly? Incest? Shota? Massive power imbalances? Ryona?

No. 2119399

>>2119393
>coping with trauma
definitely a shotacon lol

No. 2119414

>>2119342
I'm not really into that stuff but I was once looking for fans older than teens in a niche fandom and that almost directly means proshippers so I was finding them among proshippers lol. I can tell you that there definitely are terfs among older fujos (mostly 25+) but they're hiding just as you probably are. You can probably spot them by paying attention to who's not posting tranny headcanons because trannies always post about that shit and supporters feel like they have to engage with it but directly asking will scare them if they turn out to be neutral or something. I'd recommend just interacting with people who don't post tranny shit at all and keep tranny politics out of the conversation. It's possible to enjoy your time in fandoms nonna, you just need to block or mute anyone that bothers you kek you'll find your people, trust.

No. 2119417

>>2119399
If nonna attracts these sort of people maybe she needs to reevaluate her life choices. Not implying she's a shotafag, but how can one be a terf but wank it to shota abuse smut? or surround themselves with women who fetishtize male violence against women and children as a form of therapy.

No. 2119439

>>2119355
If you actually read it, you’d see that I don’t identify with the label and think discourse in general is stupid

>>2119393
All but shota

>>2119414
Thank you for the advice

>>2119417
Once again, read what I said. One of the reasons why I refuse to engage with “proshippers” is because they’re usually into stuff that features sexual exploitation of women and even worse, justify it because Muh coping mechanism. Which in hindsight wouldn’t make me a proshipper since they’re pro everything goes in fiction and I find stuff that features women being raped or abused to be morally reprehensible, so idk what I am

No. 2119441

>>2119417
>or surround themselves with women who fetishtize male violence against women and children
Being fair, nonna did say
>(only inflicted on males)

No. 2119455

>>2119439
>All but shota
As long as its nothing to do with children or animals you're pretty fucking based. God speed nona

No. 2119460

>>2119441
mb kek, was confused for a sec.

No. 2119464

>>2119417
>how can one be a terf but wank it to shota abuse smut
I can see why liking traps or female abuse is contradictory with being a terf but I don't see the problem with shota? Also what's the difference between liking shota and a 16 year old anime boy, both are children.(shota bait)

No. 2119467

>>2119342
go to fujochan, we're in shortage of degen fujos. be free

No. 2119535

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I'm not against shipping, but posts like this essentially confess that you've never had a significant friendship with anyone in your entire life

No. 2119543

>>2119535
This autist mind will literally explode if they knew something like bromance existed

No. 2119550

>>2119543
Obligatory.

No. 2119560

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>>2119535
same goes with every "horny/kink" post in fandom, they make it so fucking obvious that they're virgins. we were just talking about this in that french incest degen thread, about how far removed these kink-obsessed online sex pests tend to be. they become so obsessed with their fetishes because no one wants to fuck them, since they can't have normal sex with regular people and they resort too nline roleplay sex with other degens just or when it is irl, it's with some fat greasy social reject

No. 2119562

>>2119535
To be fair, compared to the averagr actually meant to be canon shounen romance they're basically inside each other.

No. 2119581

>>2118640
Kiwifags just get high on being a contrarian. They'll make threads on people for being racists and at the same time spew racist shit. Or they'll make threads just to make fun of artists for being autists while they're autistic bad artists. They're truly just there to lol at the cows

No. 2119587

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>>2119560
>look up who made that "goth dommy mommy" post
>it's a tranny
i'm almost scared, that i could tell right away

No. 2120005

>>2119535
>you do this with your sibling?!
>smile together
Yeah, sometimes.

No. 2120009

>>2120005
You better be a autist because the implication is clear what they meant by those images

No. 2120152

>>2120009
Nona they’re very clearly making a joke how none of the images they posted are actually that romantic.

No. 2122483

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The absolute state of fandom.

No. 2122624

>>2122483
Kek. You have no idea how much I love this, nona. It also highlights something that irritates me about fandoms. These retarded teens claim to be concerned with identity politics, which isn’t evil in and of itself (just a misguided attempt at trying to be a ‘good person’) but it’s like they can’t even follow the rules which they themselves set out. ‘Boo we hate skinny, white men!’ And all they ever do is watch shows and play games with skinny white and Asian men. If you’re going to be a hypocrite, at least own it. I know that I personally prefer garden variety husbandos, and I’m not afraid to admit it. But when someone calls out their lies, they try and headcanon their way out of it.
> ‘Nuuuu this isn’t white boy yaoi, it’s T4T butch yuri!!!’
Holy retard.

No. 2122630

>>2122483
Is this a thing? Why do retards act like most anime characters aren’t Asian?

No. 2122652

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>>2122630
5 out of 11 non-Asians in this image alone. A lot of anime characters are ‘ethnically’ white (whatever that means) but are just drawn to look Asian if the media originates in Japan/China/Korea.

No. 2122656

>>2122652
all of those look exactly the same to me

No. 2122659

>>2122656
What’s your point? They’re German, Russian, British, etc. Not Asian.

No. 2122661

>>2122659
that the anime style is so generic i dont know how people see asian or white when they look at a bug eyed character with white hair and neon blue eyes

No. 2122664

>>2122661
I get what you mean but generally when an anime character is meant to be whIte you can tell.

No. 2122669

>>2122664
I doubt so, unless you have context or they are drawn more realistic you usually cant tell

No. 2122670

>>2122661
The books usually tell you.
Though, I don't see why anybody would anime take race seriously when it comes to shit like rep. Just read the damn story ffs.

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>>2122664
If they’re drawn with blue eyes, blonde hair and a big nose then yes
But more often they just look exactly the same as a Japanese character.

No. 2123256

>>2112565
Re-upload your stuff somewhere and get multiple copies, I'm also a digital holder but my hard drive got destroyed in a flood and lost all the data, don't let yours get taken out by something random

No. 2123271

>>2122630
I drew the shitty meme and I don't think anime characters are white, I just said "white" as a shorthand for pale skinned characters in general because twitterfags rarely make the distinction (and also to save space kek.) Plus fandoms of Western media act the same. I don't want to derail the thread with race sperging tho so I'll leave it as that.

No. 2123279

>>2122652
>>2122656
>>2122630
The topmost guy at the right is Ban from Seven Deadly Sins and that's supposed to be set in King Arthur fantasy Britain (he's supposed to be a version of Ban of Benoic, father of Sir Lancelot)

No. 2123286

>>2122652
There's actually even more non-Asians here kek, I circled them but I can't upload the pic for some reason so:
> Guy in the black and red "stay (o)live" hoodie is the Italian love interest from ValiDate
> The pic on the far left is literally Dramione fanart
> The guy in the top right corner is an Arthurian Brit
> The woman with long blonde hair is Galadriel from LOTR, it's ship art with her and Sauron

No. 2123418

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as someone from the thirdworld, I just don't understand other people from similar backgrounds who are so deeply into either pro-shipping or whatever bs, like picrel is a personal cow of mine, who went through a six-day blackout. I know what that's like, the boredom, the heat and the fear for one's safety. Yet, the moment she's back online, the first thing she does is start reposting porn of miles morales or gwen stacy getting raped by adult men. I just don't get it, like after going through a long blackout, I stop focusing on petty online drama and kinks, and instead I become very grateful for what I have and feel a desire to help others

No. 2123446

>>2123418
Eh, sometimes you want your problems to be first world dumb shit rather than face the reality that you are fucked and poor.

No. 2123487

>>2123446
tbf, the one's you seen on twitter aren't 'poor' we are usually part of the upper-middle class; we just live in countries that are run like shit, especially these days

No. 2123491

>>2123487
My bad, though it fits either way.
It's less painful/annoying to look at porn and complain about entertainment than it is to look at the world around you.

No. 2123520

>>2122483
The ship choices are inaccurate because the people who complain about fujos the most are either fujos in denial themselves (gaydens) or yurifags kek

No. 2123538

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Another year, another Ao3 data spread for yuri fans to bitch about. What even is the mentality here? No straight fujoshi is ever going to write yuri fanfiction. If you biologically do not want to fuck women, you’re not going to write romance and porn about women kissing women. I also hate this retarded perception that female sexuality is any more ‘’’fluid’’’ than male sexuality is. No one would dare ask a straight moid to write even the fluffiest oneshot if the ship included two men. So apply the same logic to female writers, and stop whining all the time. It’s pathetic. Write it yourself, or stop demanding that the ‘imaginary mass of Ao3 authors’ (nameless fujoshis who actually grind to write yaoi instead of complaining 24/7) do it for you.

No. 2123544

>>2123538
>Tranny
Another man demanding women put in the labor to make his jerk off content while he lazes about.

No. 2123549

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>>2123538
On the up and up, I will say that the lack of yuri does cheer me somewhat. On one hand, I feel bad for the himejoshis who actually mind their business and work hard to create femslash fan works. But on the other, the statistics don’t lie: this chart exposes all of the performative ‘Yuri! Yuri! T4T! Girldick! Mommy! Yuri! Strap!’ bullcrap I’ve been forced to endure over the past two years completely out of the water. What a beautiful exposé. None of these bihet women who claim to ‘adore’ female ships are contributing a single thing in actuality, and the yurifags TIMs are going haywire over the lack of AGP-insert material. I love sipping troon tears. Bravo!

No. 2123552

>>2123538
>all the replies bitching that its because of "misogyny"
Ironically, it's because of the misogyny in manga, smut and romance that fujos exist to begin with. Why would a self-respecting woman write about a woman being raped, abused, traded around or going through extreme emotional turmoil.

No. 2123571

>>2123538
>No one would dare ask a straight moid to write even the fluffiest oneshot if the ship included two men.
Ngl I do have some male authors I wish would write bl, I'm sorry. They're good at chemistry.

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>>2122652
I didn't know validate had actual fans. I swear I've never seen it mentioned outside of this website
>>2123538
They realized the guilt tripping wasn't working so the next best course of action was to throw insults. I don't even know if the people complaining about this actually care about f/f fanfiction and the people that do write it or if they just care about stats.

No. 2123699

>>2123630
If you don't like your ship enough to make content of it for fun then yeah i'd say you don't like that ship as much as you claim to. But we already knew that most f/f likers were performative, nothing new.

No. 2123705

>>2123630
>same abundance of readily available content as m/m enjoyers without unfair burden placed on them
What is this retardation. Where the fuck did they think the content come from in the first place? Magic? AI? Fanfic didn't just magically appear, someone had to write the damn things.

No. 2123717

>>2123538
>What even is the mentality here? No straight fujoshi is ever going to write yuri fanfiction.
Except some of them do write it. You have no idea how annoying it is to read an amazing f/f fic, check out the rest of the author's fic and then find out it's all m/m. Very disappointing.
And who tf is writing all the het.
third, who tf cares what moids do at spacebattles or whatever? Nobody.
Lastly, who tf are Marlene Mckinnon and Dorcas Meadows and how are they second highest f/f pair.

But seriously, idc, you just annoyed me. And 9 out of 10 fujo's write the worst f/f or try to pretend that Harry/Draco sexed swapped should count as f/f.

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>>2123717
> B-b-but seriously idc you a-a-annoy me—
Ok, newfag.

> I want more yuri in general but it’s annoying to see that a fujo author has written it!!!

So you want to have your cake and eat it then, retard? Considering all the moralfagging and complaining yuri fans do, you should learn to suck it up and be grateful when a fujo decides to cave and write you some out of the kindness of her heart. She is under no obligation whatsoever to do so, especially when no yuri author would ever do the same for her.

> Who is writing all this het???

My wonderful, talented yumejoshi sistren. Take their name out of your mouth.

> Who cares what moids do?

Congratulations, that’s exactly the point I was making. No one does. No one ever tries to psyop waifucoomers into drawing anything but big breasts and ass. It’s only fujoshis that are constantly subject to passive aggression from all sides: from straight moids being repulsed at women liking anything except their weird misogynist porn, from TIMs being repulsed at women liking anything except fuelling their weird AGP fetish, and from radfem himejoshis dishing out high-school levels of cattiness, because god forbid a woman doesn’t like making out with the same gender. God forbid. Now get the fuck out.(infighting)

No. 2123775

>>2123717
>gets f/f
>complains

No. 2123779

>>2123717
If the fujos that write f/f are such big deals then the problem is that no one that wants f/f fics is writing them. Get more autistic and maybe you'll be the first yurifag to write f/f instead of complaining that fujos don't do it for you well enough.

No. 2123790

>>2123418
This is so petty. Let her cope in her dumb ways, it literally hurts no one.

No. 2123791

>>2123771
>lol, which yuri fan killed your dog? It's annoying when they write bad f/f. It's great when they write great f/f. It's not disappointing because a fujo wrote f/f, it's a disappointing because there is no more f/f from that writer. Anyone who writes great f/f is a wonderful thing. I would never hate on that. That you are so steeped in hating that that's how you interpreted it is just sad.

>especially when no yuri author would ever do the same for her.

lol, why are acting this, like, a fucking gang war, and there is no one would dare cross over to the other side upon pain to death.

>talented yumejoshi sistren

Nobody writing Draco/Hermione is a yumejoshi. You realize AO3 wasn't started by fans coming out of anime right. you lot just showed up and try to act like it.

>Now get the fuck out.

If you're going to keep raging like this, I'm going to keep poking you.

No. 2123797

>>2123791
You're writing lolcow replies when you could be writing the next big f/f fic. What's stopping you?

No. 2123800

>>2123538
>No one would dare ask a straight moid to write even the fluffiest oneshot if the ship included two men.
To be fair a lot of people tried convincing some male authors to write some characters as gay, like steve and bucky. I saw women genuinely upset when stucky didn't happened and steve kissed some girl in civil war kek. All that said, I agree with you, but the issue is that women cave in and give these people what they want, but surprise surprise, it's never enough. They need to ignore these idiots and move on.
>>2123717
>>2123630
>gets what they want
>it's not in the quantity they want
>waaah so disappointing waaah
That's why they should never cave in. Entitled little kids.

No. 2123820

>>2123790
If it were frivolous shit, I would understand, but the fact it's specifically two child characters being raped by adult men is what I find disgusting

No. 2123822

>>2123820
miles and gwen arent even loli/shota wtf

No. 2123824

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>>2123791
>It's not disappointing because a fujo wrote f/f, it's a disappointing because there is no more f/f from that writer.
Holy kek, you have a biblical level of greed. Do you just expect 10,000 word fanfictions to fall out of the sky and land in your lap? No? Then stop acting special.

>I would never hate on that.

No one gives a fuck about whether you ‘hate on’ fictional female ships. I’m condemning the fact that you’re ’hating on’ real female authors for writing more of what they personally like, if yaoi is what they prefer.

>why are acting this, like, a fucking gang war

You’re the fool going schizo over women who write for more than one category of ship. Stop drawing lines in the sand and I’ll stop calling out your (and yurifags’ general) retarded bullshit.

No. 2123826

>>2123822
do I have to explain that calling 13 year olds "loli/shota" is not normal either?

No. 2123829

>>2123826
you must have a vendetta because i went to her account and its like the most milquetoast yaoi on existence. She even rts babys first yaoi shit bakudeku, which i bet you also think is shota. She isnt even milky, she just posts her MMD cringe dance videos and leaves it at that. Imagine comparing women who ship teen characters to men using real children to draw pedoshit and jackoff to it like dorontabi and actual pedo scrotes do. Some of you wouldnt have survived in the DA days.

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>>2123829
>milquetoast yaoi on existence

No. 2123836

>>2123833
Yes, thanks for proving my point.

No. 2123839

>>2123836
>see adult man with small child
>it's milquetoast yaoi apparently
that says so much, but I'm not gonna derail further, i hope you have a safe future transition

No. 2123840

>>2123833
I have to be honest. I can't help but respect her for doing 3DCG instead of 2D.

No. 2123841

>>2123839
>small child
my sides, are you the same kind of person that thinks gween is a groomer because she and miles have like a 2 year gap relationship? i find it hilarious how this thread went from laughing at people like you to being the same kind of speds who harass women for slightly stepping out of line, while men who are actual pedos and misogynists arent criticized.

No. 2123842

>>2123840
Brings me back to the good ol days of MMD

No. 2123843

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No. 2123844

>>2123841
last time I checked, a 13 year old is a child

No. 2123845

>>2123844
hes 17yo in across the spiderverse

No. 2123846

>>2123839
nta but isnt miles 17 or 18? he goes to an high school no?

No. 2123847

>>2123846
i dont think that anon has ever seen the movie tbh

No. 2123848

>>2123833
I'm a fujo but this ship is cringe. Also, major kek at bunny boy Miles.

No. 2123851

>>2123833
I love fujoshis for tainting Marvel and DC bros' sacred relics with yaoism.



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