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>>2101400Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
DO NOT REPLY TO BAIT! REPORT AND IGNORE!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/painting Amrita Sher-Gil - Three Girls (1935)
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
No. 2116145
I'm slowly losing faith in the original tinfoil as time goes on solely because of how combative anons like
>>2116138 are
No. 2116202
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>>2116200>Another anon proved that she just changed her tumblr blog's username and the blog itself still existshow do you explain this then? it redirects to the exact same blog with the callout. I am using brave though, feel free to dl brave and try it for yourself if you dont believe me.
No. 2116210
>>2116206>Other anons including me in the previous thread searched for her username on google and this cache wouldn't show up for any of us. because you are using google, i am using brave.
>What are you proving?that it is her tumblr, linked to her real name. But you guys would rather believe than some random just so happen to steal her username for a throwaway, what a coincidence.
No. 2116213
>>2116210Well the tumblr linked to her real name is
https://www.tumblr.com/gwillygloom/145118775223/redrawn-captain-harlock-by-rainbowbile once again, she just changed her username and someone else grabbed it. You’ve shown no evidence of this woman even having an Art Fight account. It should be easy since she tends to use the same username everywhere, no special characters included
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MFW most of the designs replying the thread didn't "glow up" like OP means.
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>>2116212
so real, i am a farmhand actually! how did you find out?
No. 2116218
>>2116213how do you explain
>>2116202 being an username she uses constantly and being linked to her name in the brave search? like seriously i cant believe you guys would rather believe the odd chance than someone just so happens to grab the exact same username as another leftist artfag rather than her just using her old account as a throwaway to post the callout.
No. 2116219
>>2116193the username is the only evidence and it's not something incredibly oscure or unique that no one else could come up with.
>>2116202that's just how the tumblr urls work. once you moved your blog to another url, someone else can take up the original one and host their own stuff in the blog suing tagt address. this just prove she used to have a blog with that name at some point, but it's entirely psosible she changed it to something else, maybe even years ago, and someone unrelated picked up the rainbowbile username.
she has been inactive for a long time on every platform too. it seems very likely that she abandoned that name and someone else started to use it.
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>>2116202Nta, I also got this result with Brave
No. 2116228
>>2116221its not a random woman shes both a turbo leftist who sperged the whole 2020 about BLM AND an artfag, its just way too much of coincidence that another leftist whos also an artfag also grabbed her name.
>>2116227i am using PC and incognito
No. 2116260
>>2116250you say this but the callout post literally linked anons social media pages without proof besides their usernames. You think she would believe the ''umm ackshually some
terf stole my username!!!'' excuse?
No. 2116338
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Late but
>>2116006>she just stopped drawing because shes a NGMI lazy retardLmao anon you didn’t have to call me out tonight
>>2115615I haven’t registered to Art Fight and don’t have Tumblr so I can’t tell if picrel is about da evil terfz they found but if true I want to shout out to you ladies. Love the work, and a special shout out to Trinity.
No. 2116613
>>2116404I thought about that too, but this part
>I want to shout out to you ladies. Love the work, and a special shout out to Trinity.made it seem like someone coming from off-site to clear things up, which is why I thought it was her. Thanks for clarifying
No. 2116628
>>2116462That’s why I really want to have an art trading Discord server or something for LC.
I’m not the anon that people were accusing of making a honeypot or whatever. Though my art is unfortunately linked to my real name so I’d have to be extra careful participating in something like that (or not do it at all).
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>>2116800It's actually way less blackpilling than you think, those users with high streaks have shit art because they're so focused on the streaks instead of actually studying anything or taking the time to explore concepts or subjects outside of their comfort zone and they're definitely not reading theory either. They are a prime example of what you shouldn't do to in the long term, let it motivate you to learn and push your boundaries so you don't stagnate or degrade. As for my other thoughts on DAD, I think it's very unsustainable in the long run and also there's were way too many coomers there for my liking.
No. 2117365
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>>2117252You can say the same for literally any art community though. I miss J.
No. 2117374
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>>2117365I miss oekakis. There were some really, really good, fun ones back in the day. There were two I remember, one was something like "ArtCentral Oekaki" and the other was Loish's. Had good times drawing my Neopets and other people's characters. Picrel, ain't my art but I saved it from when someone drew it for my birthday a billion years ago.
No. 2117410
>>2116800It's a decent community if you can tolerate a lot of moid shit, its better than the rest of /ic/ at the very least. It's good if you need motivation to draw more, drawing every day for stretches has definitely made my art better and improved my output
>>2117365ngl j is part of what made me wanna quit dad, seeing the gross lolishota rape and drawings of women getting fucked by like animals and orcs he kept putting out, and no one giving a fuck because most dad users are moids who get off to that and he draws better than the average /beg/. It made me realize dad wasn't a community I wanted to be a part of.
No. 2117516
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>>2117499It was. It was basically all the tools for pixel art, plus a "watercolor" brush, an airbrush, and I think a pen tool. Some artists were pretty damn good with it, like Loish.
No. 2117526
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>>2117516It was Kuitsuku for me
No. 2117534
>>2117530Nah this is Kuitsuke/Eevee1 who owned Suta Ratio/the Sutaro oekakis, but looking up Leelakin it looks like they were in the same circles back in the day.
Sidenote but Kuitsuku used to have an archive of her old art on her website and now it's only available with the wayback machine, rip
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>>2117545I think we all did back in the day, tbh. I used to follow her Photoshop shading tutorial religiously as a teen
No. 2117661
>>2117647Unfortunately I saw the true colors of a lot of the artists so can't look at them the same way, kek. I was more active on a smaller oekaki once I got older and I'm still friends with a lot of them.
I do like Kuitsuku's old art a lot though, and Vanillakitsune's stuff was great despite what happened to her. I was more into sparkledogs than the hot guys though so we might remember different people. Who did you like?
No. 2117705
>>2117678A lot of the artists on the intermediate/advanced board were in a big clique. They'd regularly harass and bully any younger artists trying to join those boards, some of them even suicide baited the kids for 'copying' their sparkledogs. They all secretly hated each other too and would be nice to each others faces while writing articles on Encyclopediadramatica about each other behind their backs.
They're probably all in their mid-late 30s now but never grew out of that mindset and are still doing that shit behind locked accounts. It's like mean girls who peaked in high school but even more pathetic.
A lot of them also secretly seethe about the artists who grew out of that clique and became successful professional artists.
There's probably a lot that happened that I never saw, but a lot of artists from that era probably have personal stories about those people if you knew who to ask.
No. 2118921
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Why can’t nu-neopets hire better artists, shouldn’t there be more skilled autistic furries frothing at the mouth to draw for them?
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>>2118921Even the wonkiest looking early plots had more charm
No. 2118934
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>>2118921I like the shitty art though…
No. 2119144
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>>2119039She made a new twitter account
I personally dislike her new art, I wish she hasn't sold 99% of her anthro characters. Her new designs are boring.
Some of her old art is up in a furry booru. if anyone has more old art of her's saved, please share it.
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>>2119039>>2119144Her art looks ranfren inspired here, this is the first time I've heard about this artist
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>>2117374You made me remember one of my fav artists back in the '00.
No. 2119299
>>2119210I don't remember much, but her inspirations were mostly kaneoya sachiko, funamusea, osamu tezuka and japanese subcultures in general.
she used to be popular back when deviantart was still frequented.
No. 2119350
>>2118921Hello. Yes, I am such an autistic. The only furry content I enjoy is that site. But tbh the new owners have had their own issues when it comes to artwork. Less than stellar work is kinda small beans compared to the time they lifted kuitsuku's fanart in 2015 and possibly again for some stupid af necklace design 2020.
>>2118934I mean the old art has a lot of charm because of it's historical ties to the site. Google races animation, etc is great cause you know it was a couple of 20 something weirdos in the UK making things themselves for the autism farm that became Neopets. Coming up on the anniversary and fact that a lot of artists grew up drawing these creatures and are more than willing to draw more consistent quality stuff shelling out some cash for better artists wouldn't hurt. That said I agree no replacing old original site art!
No. 2119547
>>2119517used to experience the same. found that even when I create content for myself it still felt like a chore to do
not to mention i dont have any self esteem in the first place so i had no regards to making something only i could enjoy i found that having at least a small circle of friends, even if its just one person to acknowledge the art, was enough to satisfy creativity. even better if you and a friend can do mindless doodles on a shared canvas where you can both draw for the fun of it rather than trying to improve.
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>>2118921The art is so bad in the comic. I will never get over the backwards ear. How is the inner ear on the back of the head. Your thumb faces inward when looking at the figure from behind.
No. 2119685
>>2118934this has soul, to cop from /ic/fags
>>2118921they're probably rushed and not enjoying the work, i feel like that artist is probably capable of more but doesn't have time to do better. i wish they either did a more simplified or bold comic style or cut down the number of pages for better art quality. they could have had more dialogue sections.
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>>2119653You're right that the art is bad, but the ear is on the Faellie she's holding. The Aisha's own head is cyan. The art is still bad, though. Neopets has plenty of fantastic fanartists who would be happy to work for them, idk why they never hire those people.
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>>2118921The artist that drew the original comics were also the same artist that created said species and pretty much most of the artwork you would have seen on the sight back then, so they'd have more practice with it than nu-artist. The comic does have it's moments and isn't completely wonky.
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>>2118921the current plot art sucks complete ass because the company running neopets is hiring a random studio for super cheap to finish their graphic designers sketches. they make no changes to his original sketch if any, and when they DO make changes it makes them even worse. not even defending this slop but im a neo autist and i feel bad for the guy doing these sketches because some of them are even better looking than the finals. he posts these on his tumblr yourfathersmustache if you want to see more of them. a lot of fans are upset with how the comic is looking but that's what happens when they promise a page every other day for an entire year on a 5 dollar budget lol
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>>2119811The eye changes are pissing me off so bad kek like the triangular eyes are part of the design!
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>>2119517Well, nona, there’s nothing inherently wrong with getting your artistic motivation from validation by internet strangers. The problem is that there are simply too many people online for individual artists to cope healthily with either too little or too much attention, whether positive or negative. The two best solutions are to use social media, but delete and begin fresh once every couple of months, or to find a small online (e.g. discord) community of 20-ish friends to share your art with, and cycle through those until you find a group that suits you best. Both methods allow you to consistently dripfeed a small amount of motivation— just enough to get your artsy juices flowing— without all the downsides of retarded fandoms and social mobs on bigger websites. This advice worked for me, so I hope it can work for you.
No. 2119999
>>2119517>how does it feelGood
>what do you do when you finish a pieceIt goes in the Piece Folder
>do you finish anythingIn my opinion yes. Keep in mind I mean physical drawings. The piece folder is a literal orange folder. The unfinished piece folder is a separate folder entirely. Then there's the Box.
No. 2120275
>>2119517>How does it feel to truly make art just for yourself?Its great. I started doing art mostly to get commissions, and thus i ended up drawing a bunch of shit i dont like, like anime girls and furries. Now i can fully concentrate in drawing my super niche interests.
>What do you do when you finish a piece?I move on to the next drawing. Sometimes i show it to my artist friend to get some criticism.
>Do you finish anything at all? Yeah, I try to finish at least a fully rendered piece a month. My goal is to get good enough that no matter how niche the stuff i draw is, i'll still get some followers due to my skill alone.
No. 2120433
>>2119517>How does it feel to truly make art just for yourself?It feels wonderful. I love creating ocs and then drawing them wearing different outfits and interacting with each other. My best friend has also a bunch of ocs and we make stories with them together. It's like playing with dolls.
>What do you do when you finish a piece?I show it to my best friend and then I save it in my sketchbook, if it's digital I save it in my hard drive.
>Do you finish anything at all?Yes, sometimes. Most of my drawings are studies and sketches that I do for fun, but I don’t have the obligation to finish anything if I don’t feel like it. So I just draw at my own pace and I really enjoy the feeling of drawing and creating without the need to worry about algorithms or engagement or likes.
I do have social media, but I only use it to see other artists and I’ve never posted my drawings there. Although I might join /dad/ just to experiment but idk I don't want to stop enjoying art.
No. 2120512
>>2119811>a 5 dollar budgetPeople give the game
so much money though, between buying in-game currency and paying for premium. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I've probably spent triple digits on the game over the last decade.
No. 2120564
>>2120557He was posting pics of famous women to boost his shit in the algorithm usually with really bitchy captions, one said "fuck rich and famous people" made a point on one post to say the algorithm only favored rich white women(hes posted
poc as well but only women). Someone called him out on it and he angrily made a post on this rando claiming they were baiting him and just being whiney and condescending. I had my feelings with all the algorithm boosting celebrity posts but now I know.
No. 2120682
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I think I’ve figured out what pisses me off so much about this account. Forget that her copy-paste retarded faces look like they have an extra chromosome; it’s the fact that everyone in her comments keeps lying to her face about her artistic deterioration. There’s no fucking way anyone genuinely thinks this empty, corporate garbage is an actual improvement, and people are doing her a genuine disservice by sucking up to her and pretending it is. She should hear the truth.
No. 2120815
>>2120682I feel like she gets posted every other thread but I don't get what about her makes anons seethe so much kek just follow Jacquelin Deleon if you want to see sameface alt girls instead of sameface clipart
>>2120747Is that not what she's going for in the first place? How would you remove tangents from this?
No. 2120868
>>2120856sounds like you're slipping into habit/not drawing what you're actually observing. Drawing men isn't actually that different from drawing women if you're not exaggerating much (obviously there are key anatomical differences kek, I more so mean the general forms– men aren't actually made of 100% hard edges nor are women 100% curves and rounded shapes), so portraying things like volume shouldn't be any different between the two.
While I get that drawing hot guys might be your overall goal, I suggest that while you're learning to instead just focus on accuracy over appeal– one reason being is that you might be more familiar with feminine attributes equalling 'sexy', and that might be colouring your attempts at drawing men, hence the anatomy gaining those attributes when you don't intend for them. Just a thought, not necessarily the answer to your problem though. Once you can draw a generic man comfortably without it looking flat or unintentionally-feminine, then whore him up, basically kek. Good luck anon!
No. 2120915
>>2120891do breakdowns of references you find appealing then, take notes of what traits are hot or whatever and keep them firmly in mind when drawing. Concoct your perfect man bod and draw it to your heart's content kek
Also a tip, when using art reference books, draw what's in the book once and note what's important about it, then pull up your own reference images that you prefer and draw from them while incorporating whatever theory was being demonstrated in the book. Then the book will stay as guidance rather than controlling your art habits in a way you don't actually want.
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Am i going insane or is outofearshot on DAD Tbrainrot? I legit cant stop thinking about it, something about the colors and rendering reminds me of her art.
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I just don't get why you'd make this your main style, it doesn't even look that fun to draw to me.
Her drawings of inanimate objects in this shapey style look nice as stickers though so there's that?
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>>2120958at least once. This is a little bit older but it's pretty nice. Probably because the girl isn't the focal point.
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>>2120954true, but I think the fact that she sucks ass at it shows that it's actually deceptively challenging to make an appealing, catchy, marketable version of this style that's iconically your own.
>>2120958it wouldn't be a half rate tokidoki knockoff without sexy ambiguously asian women drawn insultingly
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>>2120969samefag, another girl drawing with open eyes but I like this less than the shop one.
>>2120971didn't even know tokidoki had people characters until now
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>>2120974Anyways I promise I'll stop posting old shit and clogging the thread but both of these look trash in their own way
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What is happening in this image. Why is she holding her own butt up. Why is the blush making me so angry.
No. 2121028
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>>2121014what are some other artists with retarded tryhard artstyles?
No. 2121062
>>2120950I've seen this a few times and what it seems to be is kinda a mix of "O can't get any money with my current style" and they've plateaued in terms of more realistic technique so they swing hard in the other direction thinking stylized
simplified art will be more marketable and easier to draw. When honestly extreme stylization is pretty hard and it may gain a cursory glance but honestly the more you look the more ugly it gets. No one would buy a print of something that looks worse the longer you look.
No. 2121063
>>2120974>>2121014I hate the way she can't decide between cute fun pop art/sexy feminine girl who gives men a boner/general corporate memphis vibes so everyone looks like clone high characters with lip filler and blush blindness.
>>2121051kek
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>>2121091Same Nona and I'm retarded. I meant a discord for Neopets with a NSFW channel lol. I mean I'd classify some of the official art from Neopets as coomer shit so idk why she was surprised.
No. 2121113
>>2121105AYRT I would argue the only coomer part of Neopets were the faeries. And even that's a bit of a stretch. The lips sliding off her face is
triggering me real bad.
No. 2121143
>>2121078I miss B^U
>>2121014She should try synthetic cubism next lol I’m not a fan of corpo memphis
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>>2121028This is more of a personal lolcow but cappy thule on twitter and tumblr. It's like if a mid functioning autistic gendie was several steps above chris-chan in terms of artistic skill but with added furry coomer and musclefag autism.
No. 2121190
>>2121014She probably just mindlessly referenced this from a random pinterest picture, to be fair.
>>2120977I am kekking at the way she goes from actually pipping the cake to pipping nothing. Why is she just pipping the air in the new one?
No. 2121213
>>2120682The hands & feet on the left look so nasty ew.looks like a burn
victim.
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>>2121014I know I promised to stop posting old art but she's also had an RCDart-esque phase and I find that too funny not to share
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>>2121329speaking of rory, i may have found the only ethical ai generator out there
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>>2121329Yup it's the "I just discovered weird head shapes" phase, seen it all before.
No. 2121383
>>2120971god i fucking love tokidoki
>>2121028what classifies as tryhard? this is a genuine question i'm just confused
No. 2121508
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Brujo ari is getting her own cartoon
No. 2121548
>>2121508seriously
is anyone seriously interested in her jotakak headcanon ocs kek I don't get it
No. 2121555
>>2121508>OC artist with no industry connections and no animation experience actually getting a cartoon series in the worksHonestly, cool. I’m jealous. Even for what skills she’s lacking in, they can hire people to make up for it. At the same time,
>animated series by a 22yo tiktok OC gendie artist who got popular off chasing y2k aesthetics, is at best a really mediocre idea guy, and has already fought with her own fans over how to interpret her heroineFor her sake this should get cancelled lol
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>>2121555She was just getting mad at people stealing her art style again before this, so it’s just funny that she’s supposedly making a show kek
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>>2121559i hope she's ready for this in her style kek
No. 2121611
>>2121054are you the same anon whos always sperging about anime unprompted?
>>2121508cant wait to see 00s teens have pronouns and speak in tiktok lingo
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>>2121188>DADthe site where outoffearshot posts
>tbrainrothorrocow artist who used to draw weird shit like pic rel, recently nuked her accs and stopped posting
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>>2121508Here come the jealous aloggers coming to make this “milk” more dead than bj-chan’s sex life. Let me get my popcorn
No. 2121635
>>2121508she doesn't seem to have that many followers even? thats kind of crazy, i'm pretty jealous.
>>2121559her crying about her art style being stolen is only going to get worse, and her art style is just a copy of early 2000s cartoons, can she really act like she "crafted" something unique?
No. 2121659
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Speaking of indie animation, I'm kind of happy that TAMAKUZ hasn't allowed herself to be chased off the internet, especially after a incident where some retarded moid starting stalking her and hanging outside her house to try and grab her. I think психоняшки is going to be a bit shit, but looking at her other work and all the story boarding for it I hope she can use the success to work on her more interesting concepts.
No. 2121676
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>>2121659Samefag, I don't know I just find it incredibly impressive that she wanted to animate her husbando so much that she's teaming up with two of her friends in order to make a full length series about him.
No. 2121678
>>2121508>middle class teenagersKek, she retconned the girl to only become genderqueer at age 30 so she's not even gonna be a gendie in this.
Honestly, as far as show pitches/public concepts go, hers is not the worst. I've seen actual professional artists do worse public pitches
specifically talking about puccanoodles PPF and her artstyle is pretty nice (90% chance it's gonna be mediocre tweening though). I'm surprised that this is just confirmed and not even a kickstarter.
>>2121659>психоняшкиYou're probably Russian yourself, but writing a single cyrillic word in the middle of a bunch of English is kinda funny to me kek.
Why did that guy stalk her? Did a Russian moids get
triggered about a husbandufag existing in their country?
No. 2121691
>>2121678Yep, that's literally what happened. He's been harassing her for years and keeps making videos sperging out about her. Vidrel was made about two weeks ago and is him having a tantrum about her going into his Telegram (that had the same handle as the old one TAMAKUZ had so people who were looking for her got into his one instead) where he just posted retarded black face and dick sucking memes to make fun of him. Youtube's auto translate works somewhat okay if you want to try and watch it.
Also no, kek, I'm not Russian I just forgot what the series was called in English because it's something completely different.
I think TAMAKUZ is pretty cowish in her own way but man she solider on after putting up with some fairly scary shit.
No. 2121842
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>>2119517>How does it feel to truly make art just for yourself?It's a lot of fun honestly. I love my OCs, so it's fun drawing them. I work in the "if I don't like things, then I'll make things for myself" mindset, so they're very special to me. Drawing them is how I unwind these days. I keep to myself and a small friend group, so I don't worry about appearances or false niceties. I no longer walk on egg shells, and I'm free to draw whatever I want, how I want it. Obviously, no nonce stuff, duh.
>What do you do when you finish a piece?Show it to my small group of close friends who also have OCs, and then talk about it or talk about the next thing we wanna draw or write. We like to create stories or make shitposts about them, so it's loads of fun.
>Do you finish anything at all? Yes. Every piece of art is something I like to look back on to track my progress. I also use my art for personal things like personal desktop wallpapers, icons, stickers, keychains, etc. I like when my things feel very personalized. I work on projects left and right too, but at my own pace and judgment.
>I feel like this means that I'm just not an artist by default because I'm mainly motivated by my creations being seen by others.If it's alright, I'd like to share my own personal experience. Detoxing from social media helped my perception of my own art, as well as myself. It took way longer than a year. Way longer. It allowed me to be more creative without the restraints of how others see me. I feel like I improved faster from just drawing without worry, and learning things like anatomy or color theory on my own time or with help from my friends. I used to be a semi-popular artist back in the day when I would post on social media or art sites. However, compared to how it was and how it is now, for the first time in a long time, when I've finally detached myself from my online persona crafted by how others saw me, I truly feel free. I actually enjoy drawing now, instead of it being an obligation to post something half-assed, or something without my heart in it at least once a month to keep up appearances.
Though to be fair, personality-wise I hate attention deep-down because I'm a very "my pace" type of person and work rather slowly, so the slow shift from that to how I am now has actually been great for rekindling my love for art. The main thing I did get out of this is that I found genuine friends by doing this, a good amount of them I've met IRL now. I can be myself around them without worrying they'll get me fired from my livelihood and find a way to starve me or something. To me, drawing for myself gave me more than just a feeling of satisfaction after every drawing. It affected more things around me, so my perception is a lot more different, I think.
As for you, nonna, I think you just need time to yourself to enjoy other things too. Art shouldn't be an obligation. If you don't find drawing fun unless you get attention, it is what it is. If you pick up your pen again in the future for whatever reason, you don't have to make excuses or posts about your absence. Just do things at your own pace, and don't feel bad about this stuff. I may not agree with or understand your views on art, but I hope in time you can reconcile with it. If not, I hope you find joy in whatever other hobby you end up enjoying.
No. 2122109
>>2122027do you make a living out of art or just have goals? im asking because i only do art as a hobby btw
>If it was so easy to just sit and study and become a master the post your art thread on /m/ would be filled with masterpieces instead of garbage.kek this part sounded kinda bitter but its a good point
No. 2122238
>>2120682do we need to bring up this artist every month? yall have the same criticisms every time, I swear its the same 3 ppl shiting on her art here.
just go read last months dicsussion unless you have anything new to add
>>2046654 No. 2122261
>>2121508I would be more supportive if she didn't inject the dumbest gendershit into their story and if the premise didn't sound kinda… tired
But who knows, maybe that will be omitted here??
No. 2122303
>>2122266In that case I'm glad for her. Honestly I like her art and the style and I used to stalk her tiktok for cool art. But I also like her other styles and wish we could see them more.
I still think the 2000's fixation is slightly cringe but I understand why and I don't necessarily blame anyone else with the fixation. kek
No. 2122324
>>2122287I think it depends? If you're in a critiquing environment, such as an art class, I think it's expected that you should show signs of addressing the critiques you've been given in your following pieces (even if you don't nail it right away, you shouldn't be repeating the same mistakes to the same degree after you've had them pointed out and been given guidance on improving them) or at the very least by the time the next critique session rolls around there should be some change in the art that shows progress (or an attempt at it).
If it's randoms online, then I wouldn't really expect them to actually incorporate critique straight away or even at all– if they're actively trying to improve and seek out critique as part of that, it's more likely you might see changes in their next couple of pieces, but if they're not pursuing that then, in my experience, they're unlikely to work on improvements from one-off critiques etc (this can be for a variety of reasons such as just wanting to have fun, generally having a poor study ethic or understanding of what study actually entails– see artists who use a reference one time and then think that's the last time they'll ever need one– or they're asking or being open to critique because they think that's what they're supposed to do or say rather than because they really want guidance in any way. oh and ego kek).
Also some points of critique require more study to start to improve on than others, so those can take a while because you have to learn the theory and practice incorporating it, leading to potentially more error (but also hopefully experimentation). Some people also will stop showing art that contains things they've been critiqued for until they feel they've improved on it, so that can also make it seem like they're being slow to take on said critique.
No. 2122334
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>>2122284>They are Clone High OCs (technically Clone College). Teddy is a clone of an unknown historical figure, and his best friend JJ is a regular human who somehow ended up at a place full of clones lolSo… clone high ocs who are just regular people and not clones?? (I doubt this artist put any thought beyond “unknown historical figure” kek)
No. 2122336
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>>2122334why are zoomies so obsessed with Y2K, they would have all been boolied by scene kids for using labels instead of being cringe and free
No. 2122338
>>2122334…these were clone high ocs? Funny enough I actually watched this video yesterday after it was recommended to me.
Nitpick but the chin on the scene kid one is pissing me off.
No. 2122350
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>>2121691this was a comment underneath that video. The only time I've really hoped my google translate was broken. Vomit
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>>2121559Disregarding that it's her, what your approach to art styles nonas?
Personally I've always seen my "art styles" as tied to different projects and not something I develop one single thing of. I get that that's not good for posting on social media and algorithms but fuck it I just want to have fun creating art! I know everything I make will be flavored by my own tastes anyway because that's just how art works, so I've never bothered trying to create "my personal art style" the way people who post online do.
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>>2122352Art styles are just the way you draw and your personal preferences. I think it's a waste of time trying to configure your art style to exactly how you want it instead of just letting evolve naturally, not saying you can't change your style but it will always have those imprints of your past iterations on it. I feel like I have a very fluid style that changes depending on the subject but you can still see that its all my art because of the little quirks I subconsciously add into my drawings. Also gunning hard for a uber unique style kind of defeats the purpose because you're still using other people for reference, even if you're doing the exact opposite of them. The uniqueness of your style should come from the mix of your personalised interests, not a checklist of traits.
>>2122350It's incredibly fucked up what people are saying about her because of this retarded furry moid, someone's also drawn lewd art of TAMAKUZ and him together and its absolutely vile. I don't think she's necessarily the best person but I can't help but feel sympathetic towards her, especially adding on the fact that where she's from has such high femicide rates. She also goes to a lot of conventions/art markets in the area and the guy has said that even though he doesn't want to go looking for her that if they happen to be in the same market he'll try to interact with her again, so I do worry
No. 2122388
>>2122352My style is just everything that makes me enjoy the process of art kek. It's consistent across projects (unless I need to draw in some other style obvs), and in my opinion isn't particularly striking, but it is functional and flexible enough that I can draw whatever without accidentally slipping out of style. I get that people covet 'muh style' because they see it as an extension of their identity as an artist or are trying to make a distinct brand, but imo it's very freeing to move away from that attitude and just draw how and what it feels good to draw for you.
'Draw x in different styles' memes like your picrel are always interesting to see too, because you can tell if the artist has actually broken down and understood the required style or just heavily copied an example of it, or how strong their own original art is when they're not using something else as a reference.
On the topic of art styles though, on a scale of circle to triangle, how rounded/soft or angular/sharp would you say your art tends to be?
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Is there a good introductory video to advanced brushes on digital? I understand the super basics, but i have always struggled painting with anything but the hard round brush and i want to try making my own brushes, ones that look like this.
No. 2122392
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>>2122384Apparently the dude has reposted ship art of them on his telegram channel
No. 2122394
>>2122388I lean towards thin lines and more naturalistic shapes, so I'd definitely say it's more round
>>2122392Disgusting. I hate him and his audience so much
No. 2122497
>>2122485Thanks
nonny! how tf do you use watercolor brushes though? everytime i try them they dont work.
No. 2122523
>>2122392Not only that, but he also wrote a fic (and acted as if someone else wrote it and sent it to him, and he posted it himself) where he basically rapes her. He is extremely fucking creepy. He called her a pig, he described in great detail why she is, in his opinion, ugly (like that her nostrils are asymmetrical). He was walking around her house trying to figure out the layout of her apartment, he waited for her near the entrance. When she had a meet up with her fans he came up to her and started threatening her with violence to "avenge" poor kids she banned and treated unfairly in his opinion, it went to a point that a woman had to step in and shoo him away from her, after which he bitched online about it.
The whole situation from his words is that she banned him for no reason after a comment about her pricing on an adoptable. Like he said something about it being too much (2,5k rubles) and later in his group where he kept sperging about her posts after she blocked him he kept on bitching about it forever.
In actuality, he first stalked another female artist who went to school with him, he tried to become friends with her but he kept being creepy (i'm recalling a vid a watched some time ago so some of the details might not be accurate). Once he tried to strangle her but in his words it was like a friendly thing, but he did take her traditional artworks. After some time her and tamakuz studied together and had their weird relationship and he started stalking her.
In first videos he tried to say that the "husbando" character is that friend and tamakuz self-inserts as a ушко. In his later videos and the vk group he claimed that she is obsessed with him and he is the "husbando" and she is his little ушко. All this shit is really messed up and ofc she has her moments as all artists are insane on some level, but this трусалкер fella is fucking nuts.
No. 2122542
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>>2122464Yes, but the story is going to change a lot from its current fotm at this point in time. Iirc Ushka, the blue cat girl, kills the husbando after realising that he murdered her and reanimated her. Her other works are more interesting though, there's stuff like; a nazi girl desperately looking for Alantis, there's this sort of Labrythinesque story about goblins, demons and imaginary friends, evil mad scientist LPS, an author going insane while writing about a vampire family and the story is told from the fictional character's point of view etc. Psychocuties is probably one of her weaker stories in my opinion so I'm hoping that she uses the money and success to be able to work on those
>>2122529NTA but she's tried a few times I'm pretty sure. Useless police
No. 2122543
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>>2122523I'm just going to post the words of a fellow anon here
No. 2122544
>>2122529it doesn't work in russia at all, unfortunately.
he still keeps making videos about her, i guess she also sent her personal army after him, but like there's not much else that can be done
No. 2122548
>>2122352The thing about most art styles is that the ones people try to emulate the most were all created for animation. So they're line and shape based, easy to re-create, with flat colors. But this isn't the be all end all of art styles. Even this artist
>>2121014 going for a "style" is thinking with this restricted mindset.
Art style is literally just how you draw, that's it. The more you draw, the more you'll find out what you like to do, and what looks good to you. Forcing yourself to create a style instead of exploring what comes naturally to you is the opposite of "finding your style"
No. 2122557
>>2122467Oh that's nice, did you use a business account
nonnie?
No. 2122621
>>2122603One guy found out we lived in the same country and used commissioning me as an excuse to try asking me out for coffee (I'm openly a lesbian on my account lol). Another ran to 4chan after I blocked him and tried raising a personal army against me and blamed it on 'politics ruining the fandom' making me block him even though he'd been conspiring to make a hitlist of artists who disagreed with him on some fandom drama. There's multiple other guys who constantly seethe about me, make fake accounts to get around blocks, dig up my emails to ask why they were blocked, etc that still pop up regularly even years later.
I also had a TIF trying to skinwalk me and constantly tried baiting me into drawing fetish art for her because we liked the same character. I've been told secondhand that there were some TIFs and moids who were weirdly possessive over me/my art in private too but I never saw them doing anything directly.
It all sounds super minor typing out now kek but it's off putting when all I do is post art and mind my business. I only have a few thousand followers too so idk why they latched onto me.
No. 2122748
>>2122469Cute in a dark way.
>>2122542>the blue cat girl, kills the husbando after realizing that he murdered her and reanimated her.Omg I hope she's the
abusive one next time!
>>2122549Moids get weird when you reveal you're a girl in the internet. More so if you're a prominent woman in a circle. Moids will just project good and bad things about you and love or hate you from that.
No. 2122787
>>2122621>a TIF tried baiting me into drawing fetish art for her because we liked the same characterare you me? why are tifs/gendies like this? idk if you even ever drew anything nsfw, but I only post sfw, non-shippy art and still had this happen multiple times kek
more seriously though, sucks that you've had to deal with all of those retards anon
No. 2122940
>>2122787Nonnas what platform was this on?? I had no clue tifs did this but honestly maybe i shouldnt be surprised
and what kind of art did they want kek
No. 2122995
>>2122988kek so they really don't have any shame and just ask randos?
Actually, I may have seen something similar happen on several tumblr asks, but I'm too desensitized to the troons of tumblr
No. 2123062
>>2123006>So would the critique reflect artist's lack of skill? or even say something about said artist?I think the biggest issue as artists is that we attach to our art too much but I think it's important to remember that if someone critiques your art it is your skill and practice they're critiquing and not you as a person
unless you're a cow like laika it is hard but it is important to view the critique as feedback on your work and not on yourself. you don't lack anything the only thing you lack is the practice you're quite self aware and know why your anatomy is weal (it's a good skill to have as a artist to be self critical of your own work and recognize mistakes) if you're getting burnt out with exercising human anatomy try animal anatomy or even experiment a bit to have fun with the study and not keep doing the same practice again and again. Perfectionism can be a double edged sword but it's important to look at the whole picture and not just the tiniest detail. I find myself being tired to drawing human anatomy so I tried animals studies to learn human anatomy (monkeys are good to learn from) it's important that the goal of studies is to learn how things work not how things look.good luck
nonnie!
No. 2123070
>>2122940It's happened to me on places that I guess you could say I should have expected (fandom discords and once on tumblr), but I've also had it happen to me in my stream chat and one absolutely cringe time during animation class at uni kek.
What I've been asked was for titchop scars ('would be so
pretty if you added them to x!' or 'could you do a version with scars pretty pwease'), demanding ship art even though I don't draw that (specifically repeat badgering in my asks for a pairing to be making out sloppily, with bonus bizarre detail of one of the characters having nipple rings for some fanon reason or some shit lmao), and other various bdsm or sub/dom related 'suggestions'/requests/'wink wink wouldn't it be crazy if you drew x doing y tee hees'. Oh and one enby wrote a horny screed featuring her oral/biting fixation while I was drawing an anime character that had 'shark teeth' as part of his design. Fun. It's kind of ridiculous, I just draw characters I like hanging out or doing silly/cool things, not even in small fandoms or anything, so I don't know what inspires these weirdos to come bother me when there's probably someone out there who actually draws that shit. Also this is spread out over multiple years and fandoms, so it really wasn't that much of a bother, though I have noticed a similar lack of respect for boundaries becoming more common in the last couple years
No. 2123085
>>2123064I'm so sorry nonna
>>2123070>titchop scars>prettykek
The fanfiction over shark teeth and getting one of these during uni (irl i assume) just sound so absurd I wouldn't even be mad I'd just laugh
No. 2123122
>>2123104You're telling me this woman, in real life, possibly in the company of others, just pulled out a physical drawing of her oc in fetish gear, and just plopped that on the table proudly expecting you to be fine with it… I can only imagine the expression on her face, I'm so sorry nonna but this is just making me kek
Was she a tif? Did you still go through with the trade? What was she like??? I'm so curious
No. 2123208
>>2123070>>2123070>a TIF tried baiting me into drawing fetish art for her because we liked the same character>What I've been asked was for titchop scars ('would be so pretty if you added them to x!' or 'could you do a version with scars pretty pwease'), demanding ship art even though I don't draw that (specifically repeat badgering in my asks for a pairing to be making out sloppily, with bonus bizarre detail of one of the characters having nipple rings for some fanon reason or some shit lmao), and other various bdsm or sub/dom related 'suggestions'/requests/'wink wink wouldn't it be crazy if you drew x doing y tee hees'.I don't know if I should or shouldn't be glad I'm not the only one kek I hate these idiots. They do it to ocs too, and ever since then I've had any means to contact me closed. I don't need shit from anybody
>>2123145>adding the marks would only take 5 minutes maximum. They know this, and will use it to interrogate you when you refuse, since it looks ‘suspicious’ to turn down such a simple request. It’s predatory behaviour at best.>and will use it to interrogate you when you refuse,Take it from a crypto that a lot of them absolutely do it on purpose and you need a damn good trans-related excuse to get away with it. Troons cannot, and will not take a polite 'no, sorry!' and leave it at that. I've absolutely been the target of attempts of people trying to make me draw tranny porn and me not liking it was '
sus'. I'm a het artist, retard. I'm not drawing muh girlcock or muh tit chops so fuck off
No. 2123228
>>2123214>>2123215>>2123218Everyone had pretty much the same idea which is already good, even if troons do read this thread questioning tranny ideology might as well be sacrilege so nobody will actually question you over dysphoria, and the few times I did I got combative and defensive back kek. But overall I think it's the absolute best to ignore, but if it's absolutely unavoidable the best course of action is to just not leave it open ended. If your excuse can be followed by a 'why' and not shot down with a 'it's personal' it's kind of fucked. Boy cried wolf etc
>or if i wanted to be snarky direct them to my commissions page.Also daily reminder to include a disclaimer in your comms that you can refuse a comm for any reason at any point. Toss them down the waitlist, give them a nothing excuse, ghost them, etc. This has come in handy so many times for me and I'm sfw
No. 2123296
>>2119198nta, but I was in the server briefly before being pruned for inactivity which is part of their policy and helps with keeping the server active. It's a decent enough environment and the artists who've been there for a while actually post consistently since they're encouraged to, but at the end of the day you're still sharing space with ic-related moids. Even non-coom pics from guys who think porn is a normal reference have the sort of male-gaze aspect to them that I no longer have tolerance for but ymmv. If that's something you can ignore/doesn't bother you it's not a bad place to chill and draw with some artists that aren't complete dA-tier level. It's probably not the sort of place that'd support going professional or to get strong critiques from but they're not bullshitting when they say they want a cozy server full of art friends.
Sidenote: I don't know shit about the shota artist that seems to
trigger some of the other anons whenever the server host advertises here but I didn't see any shota shit during the time I was on the server.
>>2121842also nta, but I'm curious, how did you meet your friend group? Are they people you kept up with after you quit socmed or people you met after quitting? I'm about to drop a lot of very old connections (all brainrotted from identity politics) after years of doing cons and I've got no idea how to meet other likeminded artist friends anymore.
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>>2121028zorgasm. i hate this grungecore alt tiktok zoomer fakedeep nihilist garbage
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>>2123334ok that's enough i'm done assaulting your eyes 3/3
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>>2123227This is the scene guy you’re talking about, right?
>TIM in a thongchrist
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>>2123336nevermind i'm not done
noticed this while looking for pics to post. imagine being this fucking lazy
>>2123348well the chin and adam's apple are pretty accurate
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>>2123370Idk why but it makes me think of cherry from studio killers, but really ugly. Like they binged a bunch of studio killers and then maybe early Gorillaz and decided to just mash the styles together in the worst way.
No. 2123433
>>2123296AYRT a bit both—all normie anti-TRA types kek—some of them I’ve been online friends with for years before quitting and kept around due to having their brains intact, and the rest I met after quitting socmed, mostly via heavily vetted lesbian or women’s-only Discord groups, local/within my state or otherwise. The latter can be a mixed bag and I’m actually not too active in the groups themselves, but I met some really awesome ladies who are now my best friends through them. I don’t subject myself to befriending troons because I care about my happiness too much to subject myself to eggshells on the daily. It honestly feels great not having to talk politics too often, while also the relief knowing they’d never spring any stupid TRAism at me. It’s been nice just making art for me and my friends without unnecessary worry. I’ve also met some normie non-TRA artist friends by seeing how they react to laughing about pronouns and gendies. These types aren’t too hard to spot since they usually don’t have pronouns in the bio, don’t have close friends with pronouns in the bio as well, and tend to be late-20s to 40s. It’s not too difficult if you know where and how to look. Granted, I don’t partake in fandoms popular with zoomers, and mostly just do OC stuff and non-textile craftwork, so there’s probably that too.
No. 2123513
>>2117861she made an 'accountability' video
>guys those pictures are my COUSIN and she got DOXXED so delete them all pleaseeeeshe also spoke japanese with a ai voice filter on
No. 2123546
>>2122353A lot of zoomers were young children during the 2000s and remember fragments of the culture/media of that era, so it’s like being nostalgic for your childhood while wishing you were a bit older (teens/20s) during that time so you could experience it more fully. In addition, a lot of 2000s culture/media lingered into the early 2010s.
>Brujo ari is like what, 19?So she was a child during the 2000s.
t. born in 2003 No. 2123608
>>2123513I can honestly kinda sympathize here. I'm in my late 20s and was EXTREMELY anime-brained when I was younger & when I first gained a following online it was after spending a long while in isolation, which kinda messes with you. You can forget that weird horny anime tropes aren't normal and that not everyone is around your age. When I was 18 I recall making extremely NSFW jokes in a discord server and then getting shocked realizing there were a lot of 13-14 year olds in there, then subsequently distancing myself. And sometimes people do just lie. I encountered someone last year lying about their age to flirt with adults in a server I was in, turns out they were 15 and a friend of theirs from before they started lying felt weird about it and decided they needed to DM all the adults they were flirting with, myself included. I immediately cut contact. I think the word "pedophile" is thrown around too flippantly these days but there's nothing that can really be done as people love the drama.
I just think that shit like this needs to be a lesson to everyone that we need to be less personal online and if you ever get popular, assume everyone in your audience is a minor until proven otherwise. Don't be overly personal with anyone unless they've proven they've earned it. It's so easy to make that mistake, especially if you're lonely, but then shit like this happens. My opinion might be unpopular though and a product of my age. Everyone in their adult teens and early 20s is a child in my eyes, I view those as prime years to fuck up and figure out who you are and unless it's genuine pedophilia and real abuse I disregard callouts for people that young.
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Is it possible to go from sucking ass at colors to being good at it? sometime i feel like it sometimes that comes naturally to some artists, and i am just not one of them.
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>>2123870Yes, you just need to read theory and study the art movements that feature the kind of colouring you want. Also work on your values! Lots of people complain about how their colours suck but really their values are just really bad. Picrel book (you can easily find a free pdf of it online) is really good for breaking down the basics while also giving really indepth explanations and analysis of paintings.
No. 2123938
>>2123917Anime style. As for if I'm a professional, I do sell my work but if you're asking in terms of skill, I think that's subjective. People compliment my anatomy and rendering a lot, & people were asking me for art tips after I dropped said swimsuit artwork, but I always feel I have room to improve and I am dissatisfied with where I am currently. I think anyone without art skill would see anyone with mid tier skills as a professional so I don't think my skill level matters.
>>2123928Disgusting, I may draw anime but even when I draw suggestive artwork I draw it with love of the medium and admiration for works that inspired me, never to coom.
No. 2124079
>>2123980It is but, you'll have to decline some people. About 10% of my customers are trans and about a half of them have trans looking characters so it's not that much to decline.
With porn that's more difficult, i do draw porn because i have to pay to the goverment for daring to work on my own. If i didn't have to hand them half of my money i could get by without drawing porn. So yes there are customers who don't want porn out there.
>>2123976I'm not sure if it's easy but i had some sucess in facebook groups, you have to be very active though.
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>>2124198Me and you.
But I'm also uncomfortable sharing a space with a trump fan artist. No. 2124263
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My local con had a few artists upset that this was allowed and deemed "not sexual" even though it even had a sign saying "squeeze me" and it's clearly very sexualized. The convention prides itself on being "safe for kids" btw. Other artists were arguing that this is totally "not sexual" and "not +18", and the convention mod subtly agreed with that person while pretending to be neutral and referring complaints to a dead link. I think this should be considered +18 but I'd love to hear other anons perspectives because I've never gone to any other conventions so idk what's normally allowed or not?
No. 2124279
>>2124263porn became so normalized people don't even see it as something inaproppriate anymore. now anything that doesn't explicitly show genitalia and nipples is SFW according to these retards
>I've never gone to any other conventions so idk what's normally allowed or not?if an event advertises itself as "safe for kids" it shouldn't sell shit like this, period.
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>>2124263I've seen more anime boob mousepads with male characters than female in artist alley. At anime cons, if there's no genitals/nips showing, it's not 18+. Mainstream anime has scantily clad women and lewd jokes so.
No. 2124330
>>2124298Nta but it can be for kids too. At least in my country I have literally never seen sexy anime girls on sale, I only saw fully clothed body pillows like last year because I asked what merch someone had of my husbando, and they showed me the teeny tiny body pillows that were sold as gag items for adults because they were hidden under the table itself.
I've never seen artists selling weird mouse pads or anything else, they just give you their card and expect you to check their stuff in their profiles or to commission from them whatever else you want.
It can't be that difficult to do so, then again, these "artists" only sell coom shit because their "art" is shit like
>>2124263Like what's memorable of that? Who the fuck is the character even supposed to be? Either you sell something actually interesting or you appeal to the bottom of the barrel losers that can only think of sex.
No. 2124335
>>2124263While I don't think there's a problem with drawing or depicting women showing a bit of their chest, I really hate it when artists act like they're oppressed when people call them out for advertising what is essentially women in lingerie-esque outfits and claiming it's sfw. Seeing coom artists act like
victims when zoomers speak out about hating porn always brings a smile on my face.
>>2124295 The amount of posts talking about teenage roman empire femboys and showing photos of young attractive adult women is a telltale sign femboy shit is just men larping as little kids.
>>2124071Draw from black and white photos, recognizing values are something that comes through practice.
No. 2124443
>>2123433Thank you nona for the detailed breakdown. Will keep your points in mind as I sunset this phase of my life and move into the next. 100% with you in not tolerating any troonery among friends too.
>>2124071The courses are probably on various file sharing sites, but Bill Perkins covers a decent amount of values-related information in his composition and visual storytelling courses on nma. Pretty sure James Gurney has information about that on his site/books too.
>>2124263From what I've seen at the cons I've done 18+ is defined as showing nips/genitalia, but depends on who's looking if an AA org is actually walking through the aisle because individual tolerances vary. And
>>2124279 is right, most people have been so desensitized to porn that your example is not gonna register as very sexualized on initial glance. I had to really look at the image to lean toward agreeing with you that it should be 18+ due to the smaller details, but if I were walking through AA and saw that in the corner of my eye I'd find it unappealing but not necessarily 18+.
No. 2124781
>>2124325Who?
>>2124322I don’t believe it was that bad in the 00’s and could be marketed for kids (even western comic cons) but now I can’t even take my kids to family friendly events because they're not made for kids in mind. Even Lego is targeted to manchildren and it’s embarrassing to see.
>>2124412Looks like the artist who did Momokun’s merch run years ago. Maybe not but the cow character and coloring looked familiar to me.
No. 2124832
>>2124408There are three means of handling creative bankruptcy that have worked for me.
1. Fan OCs: just think about creating fanart for a show of a fan made character.
2. Read a new book and try to illustrate scenes from the book.
3. Start with a simple project and populate it with the necessary cast of characters needed to make it function.
Example Project: make a zoo for monsters. Well every zoo has a bird exhibit so what kind of monster birds would you make for a zoo for monsters?
No. 2125131
>>2112266i'm sorry but to claim men can't have bodies like that when it is literally a moth creature is so retarded. it's art, it isn't real. everyone gets so stupid and locked up about gender/sex in fiction.
>moth with human legs and arms speaking the english language i sleep
>guy with a pear-shaped bodyREEEEE THIS CAN'T BE REAL!! WTF TRANNIES!! WTF!!!
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>>2125131moids cant have pear shape bodies (unless theyre fat as fuck) retard only women can, this is like "men can have curves!" shit that troons say, if youre going to give your male character a "bust" anons are in the right to think its faggy handmaidenchan
No. 2125389
>>2125131sure it's technically a moth creature, but idolomantis's art is basically just sexy woman with wings and antenna. she gave the "femboy" character big hips to appeal to coomers not because she wanted to create a monster with interesting proportions
that character is a tif anyway so the big hips make sense. not like she wouldn't have done it with a male character, because coom. nothing deeper than that
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it pisses me off so bad when i find a cool site that archives old art and the faggots running the site decide to watermark it. Its so selfish to destroy art like this just for clout.
No. 2125540
>>2123513lol this guy is stupid as hell
So we're meant to believe that
- he was born in and lived in japan for 15 years
- moved to america 3-4 years ago
- somehow lost 90% of the japanese he learned and used while living in and going to school in japan in those 15 years
- gained an almost perfect understanding of english grammar and american pronounciation + online slang
- also gained a good level of spanish since he's replied to spanish comments in spanish
- all in those 3-4 years since he's moved from japan
that sound realistic at all?
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>>2125601Sidestepping the porn/lewd items that are usually at cons. Leaving a child unsupervised in a massive event full of randos is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. Esp since in anime fandoms you have a streak of massive degeneracy. All you need is some loli/shota coomer seeing a kid alone and getting ideas. This idiot's con must be a complete Trainwreck.
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Where's the improvement?
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>>2125761hey guiz how do u like my new improvement? and no i do not ship this old moid with my child oc whos actually an adult
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>>2125845>like we all know yaoi addicted women are misogynistic as fuckthe newfaggyness to say this on lolcow.
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>>2126297
Dragoneer was only owner for about three years, and before that it was owned by IMVU. Like most things to do with furries, it will persist whether we like it or not
No. 2126312
>>2125673this looks like AI kek
>>2125892god please shut the fuck up
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>>2125845Just imagine it says lolcow instead I'm too lazy to edit it
No. 2126490
>>2126465I watched another vid where this woman claimed that she found a repost of the video on 4chan but it's so impossible to find anything on that site and having to scroll past hentai, lol and shota, and gaping vagina pics while looking is not worth it.
(Same anon)
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I know nothing about this moid (he just showed up on my feed) but if this tweet indicates the general trend of his art, I think I may have found a new personal cow. All that talent for landscape art, and you still can’t help but slather your coomer fantasy of a naked woman with broken hips on top of it. Men cannot be saved.
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there was a old incident in jap art twitter community where a artist killed himself over his work being used in ai
take this with a grain of salt after all its jap twitter and i cant find the og post anywhere tldr japanese goverment is considering ai art to be transformative and not infringing upon copyright that has many artists against it news source :
https://www.ft.com/content/f9e7f628-4048-457e-b064-68e0eeea1e39?countryCode=MEX&multistepRegForm=multistep No. 2126852
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>>2126844He's a predator who's been fired from all of his professional gigs for assaulting women. All he has now are his online classes and nude image packs with his wife
https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2020/06/noah-bradley-admits-to-being-a-sexual-predator-at-art-industry-events/ No. 2126902
>>2126900Lmao
nonnie I'm pretty sure that's a painting of himself referenced from the photo packs he takes with his wife
No. 2126936
>>2123122Yes. She handed me a print-out kek, since she'd seen me drawing out of an anatomy book in the library and thought I'd prefer a physical reference. She was very eager, and when I commented that the character looked different since last class she went all 'teehee yeah I got excited and drew an update'. Apparently her project had shifted gears thanks to the screenwriting elective we were in (off-topic but funniest class I've ever been in tbh). I also think the OC was a gijinka or heavily influenced by gijinka designs lol. I did draw the character, but dressed as a preppy country club golfer while doing a backswing. She loved it, so it all worked out pretty well in the end (if exceedingly cringe).
She was an enby leaning towards being a tif and kinda made everyone uncomfortable, was really gunning for that whole hyper-sexual asexual 'personality', if you get me. I was nice to her when we interacted (gotta be since you never know who could be your in to an industry job someday, after all), but tbh she was my personal artcow– her art was a mess (think a mix of wonky-bnha, steven universe, her fetishes, and being at that skill point where you start to get okay at art but then decide you're god's gift to illustration and never have to improve or study or look at references) and she could not take criticism and would whine about it on her tumblr constantly (she actually dropped out, posting on her blog that she left because the tutor was 'infringing on her creativity' after she submitted a 2D character design assignment and got told to tone down the details in general and not to include hand-drawn galaxy patterns on the character kek). I'd link her here but she changed her handle and made new blogs constantly so I can't find her anymore.
>>2123209Ah yeah that's always awkward (friend of mine had her art get reblogged by ERPers once and oh what a tale did they weave together in the notes lmao), it happened to me in my chat while I was livestreaming. Uncomfortable and surreal kek.
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>>2127057The thumbnail of the video hadn't loaded so I was going say something along the lines of
>That's not cringe, I have a oc like that!!Maybe I
am a retard.
No. 2127185
>>2127152NTA but
>some reason That is exactly why they're even allowed in the industry in the first place
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>>2127057Peak cringe watching this as an artist because it's so obvious it's still the same person drawing these kek. It's so hilarious that she's larping as a demon but a demon fussing about gender and dysphoria.
No. 2127438
>>2127406What matters is that you drew,
nonny. I wish i had drawing experience going back to high school, but i started drawing around 2020 and i feel super behind everyone else. Just keep going!
No. 2127500
>>2126851>>2126853I used to follow him a while back. His work is legit but his personality is shit.
>>2127378Depends entirely on your study method and how many hours a day you put in. Some people like Guweiz got to their current level in under 3 years.
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>>2127551Maybe"current level" was a bit of a stretch. According to Guweiz's DA blog, he is self taught. This is what he was painting like after two years of self teaching.
No. 2127654
>>2127628Ah you're
that schizoid.figures..
No. 2127656
>>2127643Again, what does them being japanese have to do with anything?
Well but thank you nonetheless, will check out other Morpho books, I only did the simplified forms one.
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Got a lolcow jumpscare on TikTok from the art salt threads. Summerfags can you please gtfo of this thread? Or at least don’t post it where other people can see.
No. 2127705
>>212769415k likes… rev up the
terf banners
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mgong’s art isn’t that special. i’ve seen dozens of artists on a similar or better skill level.
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>>2127643It looks fine? Like bordering on the same realistic/semi realistic style of Loomis (an author this thread has shilled for a long time). Nona, if you want to handicap yourself by limiting your art resources fine, but don't give bad advice. Not all of us are looking to be weeb artists and some of us want to have that "ugly" style.
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>>2127879>unappealing post wall menYou're not a scrote but you speak with all the narrowmindedness of one. You're like all the moid artists in /ic/ who only want to draw barely-legal women. A real, actual artist can draw anyone, any age, any ethnicity, anon. Insulting others for wanting to know how to draw like that only makes you look like a jackass invoking the crab bucket. In which case, I invite you to leave this place and go to /ic/. Women will eventually dominate men in the arts, and we will do it without women like you.
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>>2127879NTA but shockingly learning basic anatomy and then applying that to your studies and using a mix of methods to streamline your drawing proccess means that eventually you'll be able to draw anyone and anything. What is a method besides proportions and a way of breaking down shapes? Some are less helpful but some are more, but you aren't actually learning anything if you can only draw what the books show you how to draw and ideally you shouldn't be following a method to a exact tee besides study because everyone has preferences that they'll naturally lean towards. I swear to god some anons are either crabby no draws or have a TBI from hitting a wall and have to be walked through basic logic.
No. 2128162
>>2127967I never said anything against learning the basics. I just dont understand why you would use an old as shit crusty book where you have to squint to even understand whats even happening when there are miles better books. If you want to sit and study and old book with shitty scans go and do it, but i am just telling anons there are better alternatives that are actually recommended by good artists.
>>2128159>but if you don’t draw post wall men or ugly men you’re limiting yourself to a small pool of references.this is so retarded, do you think waifu artists drew fatties and old women to draw big titty anime girls? you dont need to draw ugly men to get good at drawing.
No. 2128206
>>2127406Kek
nonny this happened to me. Drew big titty women and cute girls all thorough my pickme teens and turned fujo in my 20's, had to relearn so much and study a new style to draw all the men I wanted. I'm the same though, I'm not looking to become a human copy machine replicating reality 1:1, I just want to be able to create what I personally find appealing and what makes me happy and the "noooo you'll have to draw fat naked middle aged men croquis for 5 years before a single bishounen" approach pisses me off.
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Seen on Twitter, my new favourite art meme.
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>>2128162Nonnie. Don't sit there and pretend this is about how old the book is. You said it was bad purely by being western. Even if it's old, doesn't make it bad. There is technique there even if it's a technique you don't want to learn.
> do you think waifu artists drew fatties and old women to draw big titty anime girls? you dont need to draw ugly men to get good at drawing.How fucking retarded are you? I could give a shit about some moid's garbage coomer art, so why tf would I copy what they study? If you want to only draw your anime husbandos and use only references Japanese artists/coomer moid losers from /ic/ recommend be my fucking guest but don't sit there and sperg in the thread about how ugly it is and bad to learn.
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>>2128400thats very obviously the arm….
No. 2128407
>>2128402>I don’t wanna infight but you were raving on and on about japanese artists shilling Morpho.I only used Japanese artists as an example because they are the only artists that currently study, and they normally recommend morpho. None of you can post a good artist that vouchs for Bridgman.
> Now you’re calling us retarded for making copies even though making copies is a way to learn?If you just copy stuff without understand it you aren't going to learn. Morpho and Bridgman are construction anatomy books, you arent meant to just copy the drawings. You actually have to apply what you learn from books by making ecorches. The first page from Morpho's anatomy book is telling you about how to properly study by using that method.
>>2128406Clearly the anons shilling the book cant since they are all just copying lmao
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>>2128400he has a very subtle dick anon
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>>2128410>>2128418kek it's like the duck rabbit.
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>>2128429Agree with this, there are good western artists you just don't see many of them bc they aren't the chronically online Twitter types. Social media artists don't represent the entire artist sphere.
No. 2128442
>>2128429Norman Rockwell called himself an illustrator instead of an artist because of his heavy use of references. I am not saying its a bad thing, i am just saying that if you want to learn how to construct figures from imagination there are better options out there.
>The thing is today we only see art in twitter or something and we only see japanese and chinese artists, but there are thousands of good artists out there, western or not, who study and are good. I was very obviously talking about artists who post art online. I think where we differ is that i want to learn construction and anatomy in order to draw from imagination, while i assume your goal is to draw semi realistic copies of humans.
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okay this isn't related to art so much but I need to seethe about puppychan some more. That's not how it works you absolute sped. That's not how any of this works.(off-topic)
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>>2128407Let me put this into perspective. You are getting pissy, over the shapes people draw. I hate Loomis but there's really good artists who use that method, it's like people have preferences in the way they want to draw and find it easier and more constructive to study to draw in one method over the other. Also what the fuck is your argument anymore? You learn Bridgeman and can only draw uggo men, or everyone who uses Bridgeman can only copy? Could that not be an issue using
most methods?
>Japanese >only artists currently studying I like East Asian artists too but you're so obviously limiting the things you see and not allowing yourself to be exposed to different art and artists. There are also a lot of really fucking bad Japanese artists (picrel), you just don't see them on the non Jap side of Twitter because they don't get popular and/or they don't post on American social media.
Also, I'm sorry but Russian art school students mog most Japanese artists, they just don't post online because they're too busy being verbally and emotionally abused by their teachers, kek.
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>>2127715This looks nice at first glance but it's unreadable. The arms of the standing figure are very long if there was even an attempt at foreshortening and the hands of the figure lying down are massive compared to the person standing up. Also, it's just two characters with vague lighting/shadows against a white background.
I'm not familiar with mgong but I looked at their twitter account and I found picrel, it's yet another uninteresting piece with wonky/unreadable anatomy and a weird subtext with the little girl by the two grown men in a bathtub. People in this thread need to stop shilling for Asian artists, consume art from as many different sources/cultures as you can and practice good anatomy regardless of who the author of your book is, otherwise you'll just be a carbon copy of another carbon copy.
>>2128752Anon you can definitely do that. While you do that you can also try to break down the body parts into volumes/shapes/blocks, and if you're extra interested in art you can study bones and muscles too, as in reading up on them and copying drawings of the muscles and bones. That will make it easier when you draw faces (you'll understand the planes of the face better) and bodies (the skin just wraps around the muscles)
No. 2128793
>>2128381Kim Noble? She's the only person who I think may have actual DID, and even then it could be something else. Not sure about her drawings because it's not that hard to fake different styles. The online girls are all faking though, for sure.
>>2128734The Vocaloid guy that made way too many songs about child abuse to not be a sick fetish?
>>2127715Mgong is talented but I agree that her art now looks like a mess. Sometimes it's overwhelming to look at because every drawing has the same color vomit palette and every part of the drawing has the same highlights/colors. The skin colors bleed into the clothes (which is pleasing sometimes but not when you always do it), the bigger woman has bright green elements so let's and random green splotches on the smaller girl's shirt! And let's always use the same light blue and neon pink highlights regardless of lighting or palette because more colors = better apparently.
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>>2128793>The Vocaloid guy that made way too many songs about child abuse to not be a sick fetish?AYRT, to be fair to him all of those songs were made in the same year or two when he was a edgy NEET fresh out of failing high school. Gomenne Gomenne and Useless Child are really the only songs that is actually about abusing a child, the rest are vague horror or vague death, or are about himself like Useless Child. He also had a mental breakdown in 2019-2020 and now makes normal music.
Not to say I don't think he's a degen after seeing his horrible fetish art and whatever the fuck picrel is.
No. 2128821
>>2128791Samefag but I also have to mention that most of the young artists don't even get proper art lessons at school or go to art school. Ban me for blogging but I don't live in the west and here in our schools, no matter how shoddy they are, we still have a consistent scheduled art class where they actually teach the kids how to draw things, albeit simple but still teaches them to produce something half-decent, usually landscapes. Meanwhile, according to a friend in canada with a middle-school aged sibling, the teacher just plopped them in front of a piece of paper and let them go crazy with the current prompt and maybe some wacky paints or whatever.
I guess my point is, western artists are not that good but it isn't fully their fault? I' like to hear about any western
nonnie's experience though.
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>>2128804I think he did say that about the comic but it probably extends to the music too. However Gomenne Gomenne is still a really off putting song even with that context.
>>2128805Yeah, at least he had si_ku (picrel) making most of his album art after the first two kikuoworlds. I don't think her art is that great either but it's leaps and bounds technically better and more appealing.
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>>2128442>Norman Rockwell called himself an illustrator instead of an artist because of his heavy use of referencesIllustrator=artist. there's no difference between the two. That's just pure semantics.
>I think where we differ is that i want to learn construction and anatomy in order to draw from imagination, while i assume your goal is to draw semi realistic copies of humans.Bridgeman goes through parts of the body step by step. It's not just images to copy, but everyone assumes that because no actually reads the book.
No. 2128878
>>2128866There's no problem with praising japanese artists, I think what most anons get annoyed with is acting like japanese artists are inherently better just for being blessed with pure japanese blood and that western plebs will NEVER be on their level ever ever and there are NO bad japanese artists. Granted I don't really think anyone itt thinks that
>>2128869I actually just gagged
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>>2127613Earliest image I could find was this piece posted in Feb 2014. The art in
>>2127564 was posted in Nov 2015.
No. 2129340
>>2128439Love this. It reminds me of 90’s gallery art. Who is the artist?
>>2128793Yes that’s her, thanks. I couldn’t find her name. Her pictures don’t have a different style but each personality focuses on different subjects which I think protects her. Even if she truly has DID it doesn’t appear to change one’s art style significantly; quite interesting from that perspective but not because od what she went through.
No. 2129436
>>2128821As an American can confirm most of my Art classes consisted of studying significance of a style without studying the methods and then the art teacher making you create it without much instruction. I think the one time I got a lot of instruction was when we had to make our own lino cuts and even then it was mostly safety based. With maybe the exception of cityscapes in perspective and the basics of the color wheel/values you don't get taught much of anything. Learned way more on my own as an adult or in college courses.
>>2128866Yeah sure. What a lovely introduction.
>>2127615 No. 2129561
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>>2128889Underage Russian art school students would love to have a chat with you. Also go to an art gallery sometime, people do paint like that.
No. 2129762
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I'm half tempted to post a couple American artists I know that were taught in traditional methods (and I took a class with one of them where they taught the bargue method) but it feels too awkward because our local art groups are so small and personal. Like one of them has done portraits for nearby universities and has a bunch of paintings of relatives/his kids on his website. It's very different to know professional artists & instructors versus a faceless person across the globe on the internet who just makes acrylic stands and fanart.
Anyway a cool American painter is Kermit Oliver, he's been commissioned a bunch of times to make designs for Hermes scarves and a lot of his art is related to Texas
No. 2129764
>>2129762Thank you nonna I love this
My statement may be a little broad/harsh so take this with a grain of salt, but I genuinely believe western art and media outranks japanese stuff in both skill and creativity. I don't understand people who swing the other way with this take unless they're pulling up stuff by recent cartoon network or tumblr fanartists, which again is not the only fish in the pond.
No. 2130291
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>>2127706KEK i just got this on my tiktok feed
No. 2130317
>>2130308comments are full of dickriding as expected
>I'm just waiting for the people to rant about the female anatomy>Oh no women with realistic movements!!! I'm so scared oh no!!1!!:(>people when FEMALE ANATOMY: (lots of angry and crying emojis)yeah the reason people dislike this is totally because of "realistic" female anatomy, not because it's disgusting low-quality coom garbage
70k followers btw
No. 2130327
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cows crossover
No. 2130538
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>>2130317kekkkkk she's actually very thin irl imagine being so deep into coom you make a fatsona
No. 2130842
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Something about this moid’s comics feels vaguely misogynistic to me but I can’t quite put my finger on it.
No. 2130869
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>>2130842his elf comics are so fucking boring it's literally just "smug woman is stupid and vain but she always gets owned epic style by fug generic redditor self-insert depicted as based chad"
No. 2130873
>>2130842Not sure if it's on purpoe, but to me it feels vaguely misogynistic because it's literally the same joke as that wojak meme of the woman getting mauled by the tiktok bear, just with sheep instead of the bear.
At first I was genuinely wondering if this was supposed to read as anti-SJW subtext, but I went throught the stuff he put on webtoons and I think she's just supposed to be tsundere with ojou traits. Moids are just generally really retarded about tsunderes, so anything with a tsundere character runs the risk of feeling at least a bit gross to read because you
are basically watching the author publicaly exhibit his fetish.
No. 2130895
>>2130869>>2130843>>2130842There's a a current trend of "humbling" elves by coombrained moids
started by the fag balbuddy either by raping them or drawing guro so yeah they try to pass it off as "funny" but it's clear what it is
No. 2130896
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>>2130716are you baiting or genuinely that retarded? for fuck's sake if i post about a female coomer once it doesn't mean i excuse the same behaviour in moids. this place has been making fun of women since forever. get a grip
>>2130711i never even opened her thread nona. i just thought it would be funny to compare her coom self-insert with what she looks like IRL
No. 2131008
>>2131001>>2130610Samefagging but in the original callout too she makes jokes about liking underage boys
>>1948859 So considering that, it's an odd coincidence she would make jokes about liking seeing kids "get huge dicks stuffed in them" while also having received CP
No. 2131121
>>2131071it's not legal, it's just often this shit goes unpunished. But it is really accessible, unfortunately, like on vk if you follow groups with open comments you might often see some cp image that is an advertisement for some tg page with cp. And ofc almost in every school there was a scandal with some young girls nudes leaked. It's a bit less normalized now, but when she was a teen it was definitely a more normalized occurrence.
I hate to use the "it was a different time" excuse, but she is being targeted disproportionally for shit other artists did, for not only being a female skilled artist who draws cute boys, but also for daring to not be a uwu kawiwi pickme lets all be friends girlie, but being a rude a bit edgy fujostacy.
No. 2131279
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>>2131273Reading comprehension. I did not say anon WAS the cow I said WHY would you be defensive if you weren't the cow in question
No. 2131355
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What are your favorite western artists? They can be old or new, digital or traditional, work in 3D or 2D, just post your favorites. Picrel is marisashorror on tumblr
No. 2131364
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>>2131355fave painter is ilya repin. fave sculptor is contemporary artist berlinde de bruyckere (picrel, it's wax)
No. 2131391
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>>2130869Telling on himself with this one
No. 2131400
I was going through some older art salt threads and saw
>>2078559 which reminded me of so many talented artists who already seemed to have it all art wise by age 16/17, who's own sense of style and artistic feel gets absolutely obliterated in art school. Not all of them do, but it ends up that way for many. There's this girl on tiktok, forgot her name, but she already is doing amazing realistic self portraits and decided to go to art school and you could just see the passion being absolutely sucked out of her over the past year.
>>2131395was thinking the same kek, it's not even funny.
No. 2131427
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>>2131355fisher always makes me want to draw, his art is super fun
No. 2131434
>>2131157How is that cow behaviour to you? It's just criminal, it's nothing to laugh at.
>>2131205The drawings she made were obviously low effort and nothing else she draws contains zoophilia so why assume the worst?
No. 2131470
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Both are your run of the mil animu uwu style, but to be honest I prefer the old one. It looks more lively/interesting to look at
No. 2131479
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>>2131355I love Charles Burns' work
No. 2131483
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>>2131355William blake. His work is good for inspo whenever I want to draw creature design and horror
No. 2131491
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>>2131355I like bunkerbash on Reddit but apparently her account was suspended.
No. 2131499
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I need instant moid repellant nonas posting yaoi art isn't enough it seems, troons ruin everything.should I just block them all? Or some fagtranny is going to make me delete this account too I posted semi terf stuff on my last one not a good idea
No. 2131508
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>>2131433no. she simply makes art of distrorted and sometimes conjoined bodies. not everything is about fujos or your porn brainrot.
No. 2131525
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I will ALWAYS steal from moid artists who draw women like this. Thanks for showing me your secrets, faggot, sorry you don't know how to draw normal clothing.
No. 2131529
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>>2131515it's extremely impressive in person, the anatomical wax is disturbingly realistic and she adds a lot of details like the skin folds, veins, etc to he point you're not even sure what you're looking at.
the animal sculptures are great too. her art is heavily influenced by classical references, martyr imagery and natures mortes especially.
i first saw her stuff exhibited in a huge mediaeval building and the effect was incredibly powwerful.
No. 2131532
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>>2131355Patricia Piccini. Her sculptures are incredible and also really unsettling, they're all based on a hypothetical utopia where humans, animals, plants and technology are not really separate categories because everything is mixed together and everything is on a level playing field. So like you'd get plants with a human uterus, sentient deer-like motorbikes, humans spliced with animals and vice versa, and sentient cow balls etc.
No. 2131534
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>>2131532Samefag, more examples. Her hypothetical utopia is kind of fucked because everything is portrayed as being as sapient as a normal human being but there's also an implied slave class.
No. 2131580
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>>2128368(Hey just an FYI but next time you try to troll, at least do some research first.)
No. 2131604
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Cutecore fags are hilarious, apparently the artist drew herself. They're all autopedos, lmao at the sh scars on what looks like a child
No. 2131623
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>>2131617irl she looks like every other cutecore pidckme, obviously adult greasy weeb woman stuffed into too-tight children's clothes
https://www.instagram.com/pinkbeanyy/ No. 2131658
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>>2131627NTA but shut the fuck up. You don't know what anon thought or knew about Morpho because anon didn't fucking say that. Hurr durr funny three day joke anon.
No. 2131687
>>2131604You'd think that all her practise with razorblades would teach her how to draw a straight line. Tf is going on with this thing's face kekekek
>>2131623Untoned skinnyfats think that everyone else is jealous of how uwu smol they are and often genuinely believe that they pass as 10 year olds when they're like 5"5.
No. 2131693
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I'm checking this guys other comics and I don't think you can even say "the author's barely disguised fetish" when it comes to him.
>>2131395It's also always the same guy and the same side characters, they're just characters. I don't think you're wrong, and the guy is definitely a blank slate self insert, but your logic doesn't make sense.
>>2131391This one is the grossest to me.
No. 2131721
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>>2131700This is only one panel from a longer comic
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/future-wife/she-arrives/viewer?title_no=885617&episode_no=1But yes, the punchline is basically sex. He also has a longer comic called Arlokk the Atrocious were it seems one of the reocurring jokes is that the skeleton gremlin guy mc has a sexually unsatisfied huge dragon wife that slightly hates him.
No. 2131847
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>>2130842>>2130843>>2130869these reminded me of this random post I saw yesterday. A lot of this recent 'hatred/coomofication' of elves, really does come from weird, ugly men who basically view elves as stand-ins for tall and/or hot people whom they genuinely despise
No. 2132247
>>2131486Yes, thank you. I think she should have gone into a fine arts program rather then a general art degree where she's forced to make dumb cardboard boxes.
>>2132209It's always good to make things more relative for yourself. For me for example back when I was their age, there were no cheap screen tablets, every EN art tutorial was absolute ass, and the culture on dA heavily discouraged referencing from photos because god forbid some photographer would get mad and also you weren't a real artist if you couldn't do it from memory.
No. 2132278
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To all the doomer nonnies here because there's quite a bit:
You're not a retard or a lazy, slow person or even someone who will never accomplish anything just because there are younger people who have done it before, or people who have done it faster.
As our society becomes more and more fast-paced, I understand feeling like 25 or even 16 is the expiration date. But, to put it simply, there is no expiration date. You're not in control of the fact that, while you slave away in school or a job, like most working-class adults, others with better situations or just better luck are already cranking out their dreams. Your skills and ambition will not wake up one day and decide to abandon you. Unless a crazy mad scientist scoops out your brain and reconstructs it tomorrow, your ideas are not going to slip through your fingers once you hit 25, or 30, or even 45.
The truth is, these things take a long time. Someone who starts at 5 years old has an upper hand, sure, but that doesn't mean everything, or maybe even anything at all. There is no such thing as a guarantee in life if you have no ambition to back it up. And even if it did, why spend all your time lamenting the fact that you didn't go to some chinese art school instead of accepting the cards you have and continuing to train and hone your skills? It's even more admirable if you work for it, and maybe you will produce even faster and more impressive results.
You have a long life ahead of you, a life full of possibilities. Women are constantly told to define themselves by age. Don't fall into this trap, even in the art world. Your work and ideas are still worthy, even if only to you, and you deserve to reach the skill point you want to reach, at any point in time, because this is for you. And maybe you will absorb your lessons even better at an older age, not everyone fits the same cookie-cutter form of learning and developing skills.
And maybe take it as a good thing that you haven't been shoved into an industry yet. Now you have more time to lay low and learn from whatever they mess up.
Sorry if this is cheesy or makes no sense kek feel free to ban me for autism
No. 2132407
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>>2132278Exactly! Personally, I'm kinda glad I wasn't particularly skilled at a young age and am enjoying learning more as an adult. Mainly because my goals have totally changed.
This actually brings me to a question I have for nonas. What goals/styles really appealed to you but don't anymore? I used to be obsessed with very uwu anime styles like Pita Ten and picrel and wanted to make something cute like them, but the older I get and the more saturated art gets with these styles the more turned off by it and interested in realism/semi realism I get. Idk I was just thinking about how different my idea of peak art was as a teen and now as an adult.
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>>2132407For me, it was James Jean. I used to almost idolize his artwork but nowadays, I feel like it lacks substance. He's still a skilled artist but as I find my own voice, I just don't really care for it anymore. I'm also really not a fan of his later works. It doesn't feel like it's evolved much the past few years which makes sense since he's likely already wealthy from his work and is focused on raising his family.
No. 2132479
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>>2132407I used to be really into environment concept work but after learning more and realising that 90% of it is photobashing and paintover work I lost interest. I still think this kind of stuff looks really cool but I just don't know if I find photobashing/digital collage that fun as a process.
Somewhat on that topic, has anyone here struggled a lot with moving into digital media in general? I have tried an old school tablet (no screen) and various art apps, as well as an ipad with procreate and I feel like I'm still struggling to really get into the rhythm of drawing/painting digitally. If anyone has also struggled with this and has any tips I'm all ears.
No. 2132563
>>2132410Do your best
nonny! remember to not just copy, but also do figure drawing and break down poses by yourself. I also recommend anatomy for sculptors.
No. 2132765
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>>2132407I used to idolize Kim Jung Gi but looking at his work now with more evolved eye and taste, there's just nothing compelling about his work aside from the surface level of skill on display to admire. It's otherwise busy, samey, and lacks substance. I admire artists who have conceptual or narrative vision, or are just different to most of the art that seems to be popular, which I find often in older art (1700s to 1900s).
No. 2132811
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>>2132407>What goals/styles really appealed to you but don't anymore?I used to think being able to make perfect copies from real life was the peak of art skill, and then i learned proko cant even draw a fucking minion and started shifting my goal towards being able to draw from imagination
No. 2132839
>>2132267I know but it would be more bearable if I was closer to my goal
>>2132278Thank you
nonnie, my goal rn is to try my hardest at learning till new year and see how much can I improve
No. 2132997
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>>2132940I am sure you can still learn something from him but there are better artists. Like what the hell is up with that right arm?
No. 2133151
>>2131308>it’s an honour you are awarded by the public not a title you can just give to yourself. Then why would it matter if Norman Rockwell called himself an illustrator? By your own logic, if I said he was an artist then he was.
>Many illustrators did what AI does now, you give them a prompt and they draw it. Not art.Most of the great artists of history did commision work, is the creation of adam suddenly not art now because the catholic church paid for it?
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>>2132407I used to like some comics as a tween and Jo Chen was a massive inspo. She's been the artist of Guilt Pleasure since their inception and I'm really not into all the guys having the same muscular yaoi male anatomy, and I'm not into true crime stories because they can get pretty cliche. I don't dislike her but there was way more variety when she was making fanart and comic book covers.
No. 2133165
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>>2132407I used to be totally enamoured by Pengosolvent's art and music. Glad I got out of that one, nowdays my inspirations are more varied and a good mix of old and new, which is helpful because I do love making personal nostalgiabait.
No. 2133321
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They’re giving my least favorite TIF artist her own animation. I just wanna see how far off her characters are from the jotakak yaoi they started off as
No. 2133370
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>>2133321Why is everyone immediately assuming this is an actual animation studio kek. It's a small indie group of what are probably friends who have posted things related to two studio-original projects, then the jotakak project. Not one single person is being paid in this instance, i guarantee. I wouldn't be surprised if the jotakak artist is a part of this group or is friends with them and they've all agreed to work on this project as a portfolio booster/work that'll get these artists picked up by an actual studio.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/shockwave-animation/ Here is a list of the "employees."
https://www.youtube.com/@shockwaveanimation/videos No. 2133414
>>2133370I was thinking this too, but it's surprising to me. It feels like a lot of western animators nowadays are allergic to passion projects, because they feel so entitled to being paid for their time. That's not a bad thing, but then you have situations like PuccaNoodles making a kickstarter to make a
pilot of her "passion project", that she actually had barely anything to show for so nobody cares about it, with a proper studio with proper union salaries, and then being surprised when it didn't reach the goal.
Predictions for this nonnas? I predict this might attract some new fans that aren't pre-familiarized with Kate's gendie status, which might lead to some drama between her old fans that are still trying to keep Kate as a he/him (in the way they comment on Ari's posts) and the new fans that only ever saw her being writen as a girly girl and don't know wtf those guys are talking about.
I'd probably watch it out of curiosity honestly. They haven't posted anything about voice actors have they? It will be a bit keky if they give Alex a frog voice.
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>>2133329I'm guessing it'll be crowdfunded? Who knows.
No. 2133492
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>>2133475The poses themselves look fine to me. I'm not a fan of the proportions, though. The arms/shoulders feel kind of off? She gives all of her characters shoujo legs, so the top halves of their bodies look smaller in comparison.
No. 2133501
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>>2133497Yeah. I like MTV cartoons and early 2000s nostalgia, so I can understand why her art appeals to so many people. I just wish she'd drop the tranny stuff. Her characters are clearly straight, there's no point in pretending that they're both TIFs.
No. 2133551
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>>2133513Lol it would suck. They want something glorified like euphoria, they like to cherrypick things. They'll probably watch a couple episodes of Lizzie Mcguire or something and mix it with googlable aesthetic moodboard garbage. If there was a show actually about y2k, it would just be normal looking kids developing eating disorders from tabloids and squeezing themselves into low-rise jeans even though they are 12 and still have their puppy fat. It wouldn't be about the cool electronics you see like the transparent macs or consoles because most kids couldn't afford it, there would be some jank flip phones with barely seeable duck lip selfies. There is such a rift between the glamorous, hypsersexed magazine spreads you see and the reality of what the majority of people looked like. Let's be perfectly real, most girls did
not look like the popular y2k photos you see. The ones you would see trying the hardest were often preteens and early teens, so it evoked an uncomfortable sense in anyone who wasn't a perv. Also ALL the men looked like fucking Fred Durst. There were barely any cute men. And at the time, black culture was still really cool but most people didn't try to copy it so egregiously (except for baby phat asians). I'm just thinking of American y2k and how it won't fit into zoomer visions at all. You better put those dopey looking white boys in chinos and gross, odorous spikey hair that smells like this.
No. 2133571
>>2133551Speak for yourself, we had a pink iMac and were poor kek. But overall you're right. The "iconic looks" from that time were just celebrities wearing them. And especially the gendieshit doesn't work for that time. It's like these people have no idea that even being gay was something to be bullied
hard over back then
No. 2133588
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Going through her other insta to make sense of the ”story” she’s been developing and
>after high school Kate hooks up with a 31yo man for 4 years, almost marrying him before finding out he’s obviously a creep
Kek, what. I mean, I guess it’s “realistic” but..
From what I know of Kate’s story
>absolute nlog who fights with the popular girls
>Becomes model for Alex’s band
>4 years of her life wasted on a creepy older man
>also she’s an americanized chicana who feels isolated from her culture I guess
Not a fan of this kek..
No. 2133781
>>2133588the artstyle is fun and kinda reminds me of something like kim possible but this writing just seems awful. idk seems like it would be better to get a proper writer on board if they can.
its not really something I would actively engage with personally though because that kind of hetero crap turns me off.
No. 2133856
>>2133475I think it looks fine-ish. For some reason the last pose makes her head look HUGE, though, and they added too many details (clothing folds) and natural curved lines that don't fit very well with the ultra stylised triangle boobs and make them look really weird. I actually think this style would look better with less fluid animation.
Who is Gumo? The announcement calls him/her the co-creator and one of the writers, but I don't think I recall Ari mentioning any Gumo and I can't find that person's name on other stuff by the studio. Is it just one of the employers that is doing the kind showrunner position, or is it some random friend of Ari that is helping her with the show?
No. 2134742
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Can I get a nona to get on a cgpeers grindset with me… or someone financially privileged to take classes with pros with me PLEASE GOD
No. 2134954
>>2134742>>2134908>>2134912Equally poor, but if we could find something to torrent or something I would be more than willing. I'm gonna see what I can find. Is there anything specific you're looking to learn
nonnie?
No. 2134961
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>>2134954I just finished doing the 250 box challenge from drawabox very recently. This is my current drawing schedule, mostly focusing on books because i don't know what courses to pick. I am not a total day 1 begginer, but i am going back to the very basics for the second time(did loomis/perspective made easy back when i was starting, too). Right now i am mostly focusing on perspective and construction. I am also trying to do at least 30 min daily of figure drawing.
No. 2135023
>>2134545Im actually trying to learn blender lol. I do consider it art too, like digital version of sculpting.
What are you making? I found this channel of a guy doing thing in blender in real time and it cool to the the process
No. 2135025
>>2121189he's one of these TIMs or former TIMs who draw like quirky/edgy teenage girls
Snale, hitsujigoods and hikkichuu are good examples
No. 2135087
>>2134242funny as it is, most people struggle with drawing even common animals or lack the observational skills to pick up the differences between species (eg all canids being drawn like dogs or wolves) or absolutely flounder when moving between subject matter (eg mammals to reptiles and birds, or worse, arthropods or marine life) so I can forgive fucking up a fairly unique animal like a kangaroo, especially from imagination (he made a lot of assumptions that are common in other terrestrial mammals, such as a straight back when kangaroos have a very curved posture, and the legs clearly aren't locked together either or truly plantigrade, for that matter). It's also pretty obvious he knew he'd fucked it up by the dumb little face on it kek.
I dunno, I guess I just want to give people grace when they're branching out from their usual subject matter, and it's not like he's incompetent at teaching human anatomy like a lot of other 'tutorial' channels out there
No. 2135143
>>2135087Yeah. This is very true. Even people who obsessively draw animals struggle sometimes. Sometimes I see like Warrior cat fans who draw big cats like tigers like domestic cats and there is a lot of difference in things like snout/jaw, paw size, etc. between the two.
>>2134961Nonnie, your organization and determination to learning is godlike. I'm beginning to fear/get excited about doing a group study kek
No. 2135174
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Is gorarati a tim or a tif? The subject and colors gave me tif vibes but the level of degeneracy made me think it could be a man
No. 2135176
>>2134545>Do you all consider 3d stuff as art?yes, but I'm a 3D artist kek so I'm a bit biassed. It's just a medium, same as any other.
I don't use blender personally, but if you're sort on time, there are a lot of blender tutorial channels out there that explain things in bite-sized chunks. What kind of things do you want to make specifically, and are you more interested in polygonal modelling or 3D sculpting? I might not be able to help you with blender as a program much but could help you at least figure out the pipeline you'd need to work with to achieve your goals
No. 2135180
>>2134961Do you do them one by one or?
Also is this a discord?
I've also completed the box challenge and I'm working through a Morpho book. I would love a study group with nonnies
No. 2135202
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>>2134954Quoting myself for update. I skimmed around and there is some Vilppu lessons on torrent sites. But I may need help on that front because I'm retarded when it comes to tech. If there's a different artist nonnies want to study from plz say so.
No. 2135211
>>2134961>>2134954I'd love to join but there's a lot of things going on at the moment for me. Maybe if there was a single day binge study or something?
>>2135202I generally study/learned from Hampton's book,
but there's recordings in online-courses dot club. If not that, anatomy for sculptors but that's less instructional.
No. 2135258
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Same anon from
>>1693296Nonas…seeing how much this artist has regressed is actually insane. It has gotten even worse since the last time I posted her. This is her current twitter
https://x.com/mk_fanbox02 It’s 99% futashit No. 2135276
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>>2135258Actually here’s examples of what’s on the twitter in case anons don’t have an account. My bad I only linked first because I really didn’t want this shit in my files kek
No. 2135287
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I will never understand how THIS GUY is one of the more popular artists out there, his shit has regressed immensely.
No. 2135314
>>2132278I remember feeling like my time was running out to achieve my dreams at 24. It wasn't until an elderly woman sat next to me at the mall and started chatting about her life. When she learned how old I was she responded with so much wonder in her eyes, "Wow, 24… You have your whole life ahead of you."
She freed me when she said that. When I'm on my deathbed I want to be happy that I spent all this time chasing my art dream, even if I never make it the journey itself is what makes everything worth it.
No. 2135535
>>2135358Based on what I've seen you need an appealing art style and general sense of what kind of colors work together. You can do adoptables of any kind depending on what you're good at, even these days outfit adopts are still a thing.
That said, it's mostly luck, even more than compared to trying to build a following. I remember back on dA being salty some artist would get thousands for their adopts only to spend it on gacha kek I was definitely jealous.
That said I personally pivoted to design commissions instead. As long as you don't offer something super cheap you should mostly get people who want your specific style and sense of design anyway, and you don't have to worry about potentially not selling an adoptable you spend 20 hours on.
No. 2135594
>>2135180>Do you do them one by one or? yeah, its structured to go from the basics and slowly increase in difficulty.
>Also is this a discord? Yup, its a personal discord i use for drawing related stuff, like notes, critiques, saving resources, etc
No. 2135596
>>2135358My friend did adoptables for a while, and while she sold them and made decent money on art that was easier to churn out than the more detail-heavy commissions she did, she really didn't like how much she had to promote the ones that were selling slow or just in general, really. She also didn't like how it glutted up her gallery or how it turned off a more general audience that just wanted to see her normal art, but she also knew she wasn't big enough to move it to a side account to avoid this and still have good success selling. For reference, her adopts usually started and sold at around $25, but could go for $500+ as she got better and more popular.
Don't want to discourage you anon, only thought it might help to hear some of the issues that you might come across even if your adopts are selling.
No. 2135653
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Was anyone else here into all the dumb kawaii adoptables drama happening in the early 2010s with hinausa, pikiru, and punipunipon/all of her copycats?
No. 2135666
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>>2135023I'm looking to sculpt and model some meme ocs, this was all I was able to do today, I tried starting the hair with the curve->stylized hair pieces but the scale wasn't working to pinch the ends like in this video
https://youtu.be/ethg2nYSjqg?si=nJ87kq1GzxRWvW1q so I just have a cylinder in the file for tomorrow.
>>2135176I'm using blender cuz I'm poor and it's free. I did take a course on 3d modeling like 10 years ago in Maya and Modo but I barely remember it.
I'm actually looking to make stuff that look stylized like
https://youtu.be/zcJquhzjwVg?si=2CEUa8TYr1jekO3MBut before I get there with shaders and nodes I have to make this guy's face look not so lumpy
No. 2135783
>>2135258i dont get why nonas are so surprised at this? if western lesbian artists can be gaslit
more like harassed into drawing troon shit why do you think the japs wouldve been safe from it? (this case is vile though since this isnt just futa its futa and loli shit)
No. 2135822
>>2135732Yep. Even that drawing of the genshin boy daydreaming about trooning out screams TiF. She drew some breasts half-assedly to pander to her pedotroon fanbase, there's no fetish intent there. It looks like her whole deal is self-inserting as a shota. So obviously female, probably groomed
>>2135783Yeah. Honestly she's most likely bisexual and has a strong incentive to indulge this particular fetish since it's popular with moids/customers
No. 2135842
>>2135829We just had
>>2131604 upthread.
No. 2135870
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>>2135842this is actual toddlercon porn…im not believing this is a woman…
No. 2135875
>>2135829oh poor innocent
nonny, there are tons of women who draw lolishit. Kodomo no jikan was made by a woman, the realistic ghoulish loli from fate was also desgined by a woman. There are a lot of women who cosplay as lolis, and lots of loli vtubers who are played by women. Its nothing new, its just part of female socialization.
No. 2135900
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Been listening to some of Twisted Disaster's latest streams and le gasp, she has discovered from her (autist) friends that she's a furry and she treated it like she was having to "come out" (she literally says this in her stream) and that it's such a life changing thing for her. Even though she literally RPs as her anthro cat character (picrel) for years now. Now she's trying to make a fursona to properly "come out" as kek. So she's a bisexual, aro/ace, nonbinary, "plus size" woman with chronic illness (that at the age of 31, has to use a cane to walk but it couldn't possibly be emphasized from her morbid obesity /s), Jewish, neurodivergent with the "tism", furry. Wonderful, super unique individual.
She also has been doing more cons and only "breaking even" or making enough to pay back her table spot and not making much profit but she still feels the need to tell the audience that it's not just her and that all the other artists at these cons she's working at are not selling much either and are doing just as poorly as she is. Honestly I have to really doubt this because she says this so much whenever she works a con. She says that she talks to other artists while there and they are just that open in sharing that they're not making much sales and I have to wonder if this is really true. Tbh, I don't do artist alleys nor do I go to many and I'm sure that COVID did affect the scene and people are being more frugal with money but I just cannot buy that every con she goes to, all the other vendors there are doing as poorly as she says they are. And I can't imagine every artist would be straight up honest. I mean if I was working a con and someone like her asked me how my sales are going, I wouldn't disclose that info at all because it's none of her business but that's just me.
I can't help but feel that she embellishes and doesn't want to consider the likely possibility that not many people are interested in her merch. She already does a niche of doing spooky "goff" stuff which is a specific niche in and of itself and her art style is very hit/miss (miss for me even as someone who likes spooky themed art). I remember she shared one of her experiences of a con she worked earlier in the year where someone stole her merch box and she was thankfully able to get it back and none of her merch was stolen but I thought to myself that while it's good that no one stole anything out of it, it also felt like maybe the thief thought her stuff wasn't worth stealing because of it's questionable quality.
No. 2135902
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I know some anon here probably have this flavor of tism, so it's worth a shot…
Has anyone here downloaded mgong520's, rei_17's, auroration's (and similars) whole galleries and willing to share? By drive, mega, or whatever…
Many thanks in advance!
No. 2135926
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>>2135783The shock is moreso about the swerve from years of le wholesome domestic lesbian fluff to just 100% this shit
>>2135276 The artist doesn’t draw anything remotely sfw anymore, it’s just lolifuta porn porn porn all day everyday. I’d prefer people to be shocked because that means we still have standards and expectations for others. Too many people online are desensitized to absolute degenerate coomshit, an artist turning to loli futa hentai should always be met with shock and disgust. This artist in particular actually lost her previous 100k follower account because of mass reports. It just hasn’t happened with her new account because she’s cultivated a fully coomer audience.
No. 2135941
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>>2135902Download Hitomi dl, then just paste the twitter/gelbooru links of the artists you like and it will automatically dl their whole galleries. I have saved like 50 artist galleries from being lost media thanks to hitomi dl. It also works with e-hentai so its good for dl art books.
No. 2135950
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>>2135926This is like the opposite of what happened to terry. She used to draw disgusting loli guro shit then nuked her account and came back on an obscure site to post wholesome spirou yaoi.
No. 2135957
>>2135779Thank you for the advice
>remesh the poor guyHow do I go about doing this? I subdivided the mesh on edit mode but it was still funky. I saw in this video
https://youtu.be/I-qz4Il3SgQ?si=z077Fx4foQ3Fe9ia they used a grid and it seems like that's the thing I'm looking for but I don't understand how to do that. I'm also not going to be able to touch the file again until tomorrow morning at least but I'll try to find more tutorials until then and hope one actually explains it. I'll try to implement the advice you've given me, thank you.
Also I'm sorry I think this is the wrong thread to post for feedback and advice in.
In my first post I was going to mention people tracing 3d models and what the art comunities think of it but I forgot to.
No. 2135977
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>>2135655Honestly it wasn't that milky in hindsight. Just a lot of teenagers fighting over styles and copying.
>>2135950hope lacryboy goes down the same path
No. 2135982
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>>2135941Thanks for the advice, nonna! But unfortunately I don't currently own a pc, so I can't do that, unless there's an app alternative?
Sorry for the spoonfeeding request. I really wanted to study those artists but it's different from downloading like, Loomis and Leyendecker books.
hot guys in pretty clothes and colors are my weakness No. 2136000
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>>2131355The writing in his comics can be hit or miss, but his comics have a cool enough artstyle for me to read them anyway
No. 2136059
>>2135982i am sorry
nonny i tried uploading the zip files to litterbox like 3 times and the sizes are so big and my internet so shit they keep failing. I dont know of any other anonymous file sharing service sadly, but gelbooru has all their galleries archived in a format thats not jfif(fuck elon seriously), you just have to manually save them.
No. 2136084
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>>2135926I kind of like her stereotypical scrotey big titty tomboy with the deadpan face. But why the fuck is she paired with what's a child in everything but legal age? Why is it that artists who draw big boobs, even female ones, are always into pedo-adjacent shit? I can't even sniff copium and pretend that they self-insert as the lolishit because you know that's just the excuse lolicon women pull. Maybe it's just that they end up being so deep into porn that they keep looking for more and more extreme fetishes? She did get into futashit too after all.
The fact that she completely ditched the wholesome/romantic aspect of her yuri is also depressing.
No. 2136115
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The way her face turned into a doricho chin from How to draw Manga books is so funny to me
No. 2136124
>>2136115once again… why is it always the artists who degrade/stagnate who are so obsessed with these timelines
2022 perhaps mixed with 2023 coloring would've been great but you just had to go and dorito-fy the face.
No. 2136201
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>>2136093>>2136114Nonas the artist’s twitter links to her pixiv which shows her old art kek
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/20393035I cleared this up in the same thread I first mentioned her
>>1693854 No. 2136206
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>>2136201Here’s how her page looks after you log in
No. 2136263
>>2136115There is actually clear improvement such as with the usage of line weight, colored lineart, more dynamic shapes and more complimentary color palettes but the stylization just took a very drastic turn. The 2024 with 2022 face would look fine imo, very reminiscent of
Trigger's pop style. It's just that the proportions of the face stopped working because the dorito chin doesn't fit with the big eyes, it immediately makes the composition of the face look unbalanced. A clear proof of how facial proportions are essential to an appealing portrait.
No. 2136272
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What other artists went the coom route? I used to really like okinawanogori, he was like a less messy kjg. Loved his dynamic animal designs and how he would draw a wide range of subjects, he would sometimes draw a random naked big titty woman but it was in a sea of interesting art so it was whatever, but now he only draws the same big titty woman over and over like a sped.
No. 2136286
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>>2136272Most of my favourite artists who went the coom route always had a bit of a coomer undertone so I wasn't surprised when they did, but constellor/penporo who was mentioned in one of the previous threads actually fucking haunts me with her story. Creating imaginative and creative pieces with varying themes only to get pickme brainrot from your new trad husbando and abandon all of it just to doodling your female self-insert with an overly coomerish fetish design, all before you turn 21. She has genuine talent and was skilled beyond her years. A huge, huge waste.
No. 2136321
>>2136256I have no desire to post her any more, I checked her account after a year to see if things changed, but it only got worse. I shared that last screenshot to clear any doubt of it being the same artist since people were questioning again.
Maybe try not opening spoilers that will obviously have gross shit, considering other spoilers ITT are creepy fetish stuff including loli guro art.
No. 2136505
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>>2136108> I dont know why anons act surprised when shes japanese and loli is super prevalent and common in anime.More than anything (and regardless of nationality) I find that artists who draw busty anime women of various kinds also end up drawing(or already draw) pedoshit sooner or later.
It's something that will forever piss me off because I like hot anime girls with big boobs (I don't care if that makes me scrotey). I just don't get how they're into lolishit aside from them getting desensitized and in search for new fetishes, because liking curvy and busty women is the opposite of being into lolishit. I get the feeling these degens have some severe mommy issues somewhere in there and are into autopedophilia. Iirc barashit has similar problems so I may be onto something.
I forgot how many times I found hot anime girl art, went to look for the source and saw pedoshit. I hate it.
I believe that all artists that make porn their main thing (so not people who draw it once in a blue moon) simply have problems. None of them seem to know when to stop or ask themselves questions about it all.
No. 2136734
>>2135666Other anon's advice is good, but aside from using a remesh tool, you're going to have to do retopology to get a clean look like your goal style, even if only to make UVing easier so you can apply textures (or just to make isolating parts for shaders less tedious). Have you set up character reference image planes in your workspace? Might help with keeping things consistent and on-model (at least have a front and side view set up). Try using more simple, low-poly shapes in your blockout before you merge them and start sculpting to better convey the overall forms and give you more landmarks for your proportions. Another tip, but beginners often think that bumping the poly count early makes for easier sculpting, but the opposite is often true– low-poly is easier to smoosh around for big changes to the mesh, and high-poly is better for later stages.
Good luck anon, always great to see people getting into 3D!
No. 2136935
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>>2136527I can't think of a single one of my waifus who's underage. All of them are unambiguously adults with jobs, they have adult responsabilities and aren't immature like teens. Maybe non-weebs like you should stop acting like every single japan-made character is underage? Or are you telling me Lulu from Final Fantasy X is a child?
I do think lolishit is on a higher level of bullshit compared to sexualized anime teenagers though, let's not pretend otherwise.
No. 2137005
>>2136931if it was a male character people would consider it weird fetish stuff immediately lol
also it's hilarious how every part of her body is facing upward but her boobs are inexplicably facing the camera lmfao. Like her torso isn't even twisted, literally just her breasts. Fucking hilarious lol.
No. 2137433
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>>2137395
>says the person with no show nor cartoon
its okay we all know it hurts to see a retarded show being animated (besides its done by a indie studio)
No. 2137478
>>2137450I do a bunch of draftsmanship exercises to warm up and then pick a random animal to break down and draw, then try to make a design based off of it. Today's was a tragopan, yesterday's was an owlfly/its larva. Plants or flowers are also a good option- I have a little folder of fairy fashion designs kek.
Other things I like to do as exercises is the classic 'paint a still from a movie you like' or draw boards for a scene in a movie that matches the mood and storytelling I'm trying to get into with my own art when I'm in a rut. If I'm really having trouble getting art out, then I like to take a break to play around with my paints and doodle with them or try out techniques I usually don't use.
What do you like anon? What makes drawing fun for you, and why do you feel like what you're doing right now isn't hitting the mark?
No. 2137486
>>2137429Chicken gendies with honey mustard
>>2137433I would never want to be a showrunner that would cause way too much drama and people spreading unfounded rumors about you that would end up on this site. It’s also shitty seeing others do more of the work than you do and you take all the credit for it because you created the idea even though without the rest of your animation team and getting it funded from someone else it wouldn’t have even come to reality
No. 2137598
>>2137486I wouldn't want to be a show runner because I don't want to make anything that eventually gets enjoyed by kids on the internet because it's colorful, stylized and animated.
Brujo already gets into whining about how people misinterpret her nlog or like side characters over her main couple or skinwalk her style, it's only gonna get worse when this thing finally comes out.
No. 2137776
>>2135258sorry to bring up the lolicoomer artist again but holy shit im glad someone pointed out the artist's massive downgrade. I used to follow the old account for cute rkgks of yuri couples, they were really sweet candid like drawings and i was beyond devastated when she slowly skewed into drawing that tomboy/blonde couple more and more
its insane to compare the earliest sketches of the tomboy/blonde characters to the recent ones the juxtaposition is wild; the concept art is already coomerish in itself but the newer ones go beyond that. she did use to draw some r18 contents during her fluff phase, though it was mostly tame and sensual touching of bodies but my god how did it go from that to futa lolishit. this is my burning of rome, himes cant have shit.
No. 2137800
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i have nothing against space channel but i sincerely hope ftm femboys don’t become a more widespread trend. it’s so dumb. you can’t be gnc and trans
No. 2137819
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>>2137800It's inevitable amongst artsy types, especially kids. Just another label to fit in with others, space channel is obsessed with labels like the rest of them. I wish this obsession with making sure things fit tropes would die off. I like their art but the way they write annoys me.
No. 2137895
>>2137829Jot downs times and take breaks. I try for 50 minutes sessions with a 10 minutes break, but knowing my 25 time is good enough so for example I write:
9.30 (55.20)
Under that I write when I finished so there's a sense of accomplishment+empty brain not focused on the time+scheduled discipline you're training.
Then you can get in the zone and go over time but it's always nice to stand up and stretch.
No. 2137936
>>2137849Misquoting it like that changes the meaning. Brujo said
>for whom femininity not only FEELS unreachableFeels is the key word, she’s not saying femininity is unreachable, just that it felt like that for Kate. And feeling insecure, like girly and feminine stuff doesn’t suit you, because you feel like an outsider in some way, is a real experience for some girls. So I can’t fault Brujo for that.
However, this reasoning makes the idea of Kate being genderqueer even dumber. “I struggle embracing femininity because I (mexican, autistic) feel like I don’t fit in with other girls” -> “now I identify as totally-not-a-woman and that’s cool” Weird messaging
No. 2137941
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lmao its so obvious that this artist is too young to understand the era the characters are set in lol
>"doomed woman of this generation"
>character is the embodiment of literally every "cool" female character that you'd find on TV at the time lol
No. 2137957
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>>2137819>>2137941The way Kate’s personality has shifted since her fem Kakyoin days is quite odd to me. I feel like I saw some glimpses of her old personality even after the shift to oc, but now Kate just feels more like a moid’s idea of a rebellious coolgirl. Somehow it feels like the closer the artist gets to just making her a “girl”, the more nloggy she gets, but when she was more openly a “FTM” (as fem kakyoin) she was more openly cutesy and girly.
No. 2137986
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>>2132278Something that keeps me motivated is knowing all of the artists i like(minus one) are in their 40s. Looking at how my favourite artists used to draw in their 20s also fills me with hopefuel. Finding that one of my favourite artists, whom i admire because of how pretty he draws hands and how fluid his figures flow used to draw fucking oven mittens hands and draw fucked up stiff poses that made his characters look like corpses made me realize that art is really a long journey and it takes decades to get good at it.
No. 2138633
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Just found out "afternoon fika" who was the main kawaii/plush artist I looked up to as a dweeby teen (she's popular here in the nordics) is a mod at närcon (known for being run by incompetent bullies) and has personally been helping to silence the mods recent bully victims across different servers. I swear to god it's always the ones who draw the cutest art who end up having the most rotten personalities
No. 2138741
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>>2138644Probably not what you asked, but you can post image sets in an imgur album and use cubari.moe to read it page by page like in manga sites. It'll look like picrel.
No. 2138820
>>2138633The nonas in the narcon thread might be interested in this since they're cataloging the mods bully antics (one of them has some contact with SVT I think it's called).
>>>/ot/1962002 By
victims you mean the congoers that were asking that one mod about boob mousepads/body pillows being out in sfw spaces? Or is this something else?
No. 2139166
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Digital arts nonnas, what art programs do you use?
I started with Autodesk but upgrated Photoshop. I used them to edit and line old comics I drew with pen and paper.
Then I used Paint tool Sai. I had a tablet at this point. Sai carried me through my teen-young adult fanart phases, bless it.
Right now I use Clip Studio. It's okay for me, but navigating it is a little tricky, plus hate how it's selection tool works. Honestly, I may go back to using Sai, I've always liked it better.
What do you all use? Does anyone have any other programs that they can recommend.
No. 2139407
>>2138820>The nonas in the narcon threadThere's a närcon thread on lc?! damn they've gone proper cowcon now huh
>By victims you mean the congoers that were asking that one mod about boob mousepads/body pillows being out in sfw spaces? Or is this something else?Yes, and yes. 1-2 people who simply asked the mods about a nsfw picture got banned first, but most got banned after that for questioning his actions of banning those first people when it wasn't against the rules to post nsfw pics to begin with because it's a fucking art server and people post raunchy drawings all the time. The last few days at least 3 people got banned simply for saying "the mods are scary, I'm leaving this server for my mental health" it's been a cesspool mess.
One of the banned users was in a different con-art server as well so she/he mentioned it there, I literally started out typing support for them and afternoon fika jumped in to tell them to shut the hell up so quick I chickened out from posting since she's apparently a mod in both and I don't wanna get banned too kek. I shouldn't be shocked people hide behind a kawaii-persona but it was still disappointing
No. 2139421
>>2139166Autodesk Sketchbook on android tablet
Krita on desktop and android tablet
I like to doodle in autodesk first before doing lineart, coloring, etc in krita. Feels more casual and relaxing instead of getting nervous over using too many layers
Kritas free and open source so thats already miles above CSP in my eyes, it'd be nice if Autodesk was too…
No. 2139594
>>2139571NTA but the way the stabilization engine work on each program is very different. The one in SAI is the most wonderful one I have ever tried, and sadly the CSP one isn't great. Photoshop is in the middle.
Despite that,
>>2139563 I recommend getting the forever license for CSP, it's a bery powerful program. If you work with lineart, you can still do the line in SAI, save as PSD and finish the drawing in CSP, I do that sometimes.
No. 2139598
>>2139594Thanks for the info anon. I see artists working on CSP all the time and it looks fun but I can't deny that the stabilizer is a huge thing for me and I know I should practice to where I don't need a stabilizer but I'm stuck in my ways with limited free time so I just work with what works for me kek.
I'll take what you said into consideration though, thanks!
No. 2139600
>>2139563Ayrt, I switched to CSP because I found the custom brushes/effects in SAI to be lacking. If you're happy with SAI, I don't think there's really any reason to migrate. If you do decide to try CSP, get the permanent license like
>>2139594 suggested. CSP used to go on sale regularly. I'm not sure if it still does but keep an eye out for that.
No. 2139763
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such an unpleasant person
No. 2139826
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>>2139558Gonna just go out and say that artist markers seem like an incredibly childish medium. I fell for the marker hype as a late teen and after I graduated I bought me a set of skintone markers. Other than saturation they were just markers. They just feel childish to use and in most cases will look streaky, unless you layer and load the paper down, or only have very small color areas to block out. Watercolors can do what markers do and more, are generally more affordable and offer a wider color range bc of color mixing.
Plus marker art tends to have a very distinct look to it. And it's not just the artist but the material itself that causes this look. There are rare cases where such a look can actually compliment the piece (picrel) but in most cases it just gives that
look. And most people who use them don't have the knowhow to apply the color in a more flattering way. Back when I was getting duped by the shit I was finding professional pieces done by manga artists or very niche western artists who could apply the technique properly but I genuinely don't understand how people are falling for the hype now when all they're seeing is amateur YouTube artists use them to make very basic works.
I'm saying this all as a person that has a set of my own. The biggest upside I can see to them is their convenience but if you're at home what's stopping you from creating a whole setup to color your works with, why do you need overpriced kid tools instead of watercolors or inks?
No. 2139860
>>2138741thanks
nonnie! that's very useful
>>2138675yeah i guess
No. 2140073
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>>2139763Banana left and Dex (orange hair) right. Yeah, a character with a ginger side part is obviously a reference to your two ugly characters. The delusion kek is this artist even popular? Are 1k followers on toyhouse a big deal?
No. 2140254
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I recently joined to Do art Daily after a few anons recommended it. I thought it would be filled with amazing artists but most are intermediates at best. This is fine and all, but it scares me how many have years long streaks and draw for thousands of hours a month yet still have begginer tier art. Pic rel. How do i avoid this? clearly drawing every day and drawing for hours doesnt equal good art.
No. 2140262
>>2140073God I hate this ridiculous "You're stealing muh oc!!!!!" garbage. Like you're weird twink manwhores aren't that original. Get over it.
If they don't it'll be a funny Twitter sperg between two retards at least. Kek
No. 2140302
>>2140284That's not how improvement works… She should be okay as long as she doesn't associate with them kek.
>>2140281You do have to remember that it's become a bragging right as personalityfags, I remember seeing people post for the sake of posting rather than having substantial progress when I was active.
No. 2140473
>>2140333I think Anon is saying it was talked about itt already that the artists on DAD was full of ic coomers so we're confused why you're surprised.
You may not also get any decent feedback if the users are all ic coomers that just draw shitty fetish art. If you're just doing it for you to keep track of you're daily art then fine. But don't expect to find the community helpful.
I'd ignore the idea of drawing every day. Obviously just looking at these coomers simply drawing every day isn't gonna improve your art. Working on fundies, doing studies, experimenting with process and style, being critical of your work and getting proper feedback of your weak spots, etc. Drawing every day isn't enough you gotta draw with purpose and intention on improvement.
No. 2140482
>>2140473I am not surprised because of the coomers though. I just found it funny someone could be autistic enough to draw for 3 years straight and still suck at it.
>Working on fundies, doing studiesyeah this is what i do
No. 2140522
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I understand hating sharing a discord space with ic coomers but you could just not browse DAD threads and the other posts in the website and go on with your day. I don't understand the pearl clutching? I previously recommended it only if you'll ignore the rest of the community, but it was more motivating back then when my femanon friends were active. Ultimately it's something you grow out of once you picked up the habit of drawing anytime you want to.
>>2140470The host uploaded the source code(?) on github so it's open source but I have no idea to set it up. Even now I'm holding my hopes out for lolcow adjacent booru.
https://github.com/LastArtistStanding/last-artist-standing No. 2140526
>>2139763I remember this girl. She has the most basic tumblr sexyman designs and loves to accuse people of copying. It's so funny to watch
>>2140073I think she had around 4k followers on instagram, so she's a relatively small artist. Even if she had 100k followers, it would still be stupid when her designs are so generic (wow blonde TIF and ginger long haired man are so unique. Can't believe she invented blonde and ginger characters. I should own up to art theft because I have long ginger hair)
I deleted just in case it looked like I was saying I'm a scrote. I'm a ginger long haired woman lol No. 2140818
>>2140254I don't go that thread but I lurk the cute guy thread more often, the artists seem better than the ones on DAD, and its less coomery
probably because there is a higher amount of women. The cute female study thread isn't that bad either.
No. 2140837
>>2140822Think this was replying to my old comment before I reposted it. When I was talking about the coom, I meant the cringe comments and the art with fetish proportions like in
>>2140254. I also dislike how the threads can devolve into infighting instead of art posting.
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>>2142608nta but here's the character
No. 2143022
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>>2142608and the description encouraging ship art kek
No. 2143127
>>2139763This art sucks ass
>>2140073Right is pretty nice to look at, I like it. Left is omegacringe
>>2139774You mean zoomers in general
No. 2143130
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>reeee they are stealing my totally original donut steels!!!1 thats literally theft!
>proceeds to rip off another illustrator while not credit them
kek they are always like this. Every ''muh original oc DONUT STEEL!'' autist heavily references other characters and artists.
No. 2143311
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>>2143267But he actually changes everything about it besides the pose, which is a good way of referencing and what you're supposed to do. That person didn't even bother to design different outfits, just made the colors ugly as fuck
No. 2143340
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>>2143130this is not the first time she's done this. plus this is most likely traced
No. 2143373
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>>2143368this. Shes basically a sachiko clone, minus the soul. Uh oh, did kaneoya sachiko steal banana? they cant keep getting away with it.
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this guy’s gallery is just soulless sexy pinups so i don’t get the shock and outrage that ai can mimic him easily. anyone who’s actually good and making interesting shit is safe
No. 2144087
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>>2143378>mental illnessMight be onto something here kek
No. 2144212
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>>2144087this has to be one of the worst artwork she has made. forgot to spoiler for fetish and abused woman
No. 2144500
>>2144087kek this is all edge and no substance. At least when myspace emos pulled this shit it wasn't a horrorific assault of color on eyes. It's like I'm looking at a visual cacophony of color.
On another note can I just say I'm fucking annoyed about beginner art classes. I thought I'd take one because it would be easy enough while grinding through my own studies, but idk why art teachers insist students have the best of the best in terms of art supplies. I'm looking to learn basics I'm sure I'm not gonna need the $30 sketchbook for my practice. I knew I was gonna have to shell out some money, but some ppl have never even drawn before in the class asking them to spend upwards of $200 on supplies that they probably don't need on top of the class fee is stupid. Idk I'm fine with people learning to draw, I like when it's accessible to others. Am I gonna laugh if they decide to take their skill and make gross shit like
>>2144212 ? Hell fucking yes. But I get even more angry and annoyed when trying to improve comes with shilling specific supplies that are honestly not a requirement for the lessons being taught. Sorry if this is blogpost-ish and I'm sperging too hard over something dumb.
No. 2144576
>>2126844pretty sure that's his wife
she is also an artist and a model same as him
No. 2144809
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Looking for psp otomes and saw people suggest this. The gameplay and heroine sound interesting, but my first thought seeing this: Holy fuck these guys are ugly (except for sunglasses guy)
>FL is a high schooler but one of her LIs is a grizzly middle-aged looking man??
>Actually half the LIs look like moids too old for her (the red haired men also having just terrible styling)
>Blue haired boy is a popular idol but the way he’s styled isn’t cute/attractive at all, feels like how a moid would view idol boys
>Black haired boy looks like failed attempt at making a cute emo boy a la L
>Get feeling artist is a moid
>it is (Tatsuro Iwamoto who did art for Ace Attorney)
Why would you hire a moid to be the artist for an OTOME game kek I’m so annoyed, there are female artists who can draw varied designs in a similar style (while making them actually attractive).
I actually like the FL’s dorky looking hair, just not a fan of the short shorts + thigh highs combo and the baby face, it’s too jarring seeing her with the older dudes.
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>>2144809Like this looks more like a girl and her fatherly figure kek, their kiss scene looks so strange. Hate that his route is recommended for plot reasons.
Also I hate when artists do this shit where the man and the woman look like 2 completely different species, where the man has more semi-realistic proportions while the woman is a simplified big-eyed cute anime girl.
No. 2144873
>>2144810>moid artist>blatant DDlg shilling in the CGsThey want us to fall for the ugly man psyop even in games
meant to appeal to us. Fuck this.
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>>2143311This is also pretty common with other professional artists but along with Araki they can actually do it well
No. 2145447
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>>2145358>AA guys are hotThere are a total of 2 moids here whose designs would pass for otome material, and I am counting the identical brothers as 1 design.
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>>2145447That's not even 10% of the cast of any given AA game. They just have a wide variety of characters, some goofy looking and some traditionally attractive.
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>>2145447I know we're talking about the males but she's so hot
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>>2145447Please
nonnie, that's 4/7 hot men (yes counting Edgeworth) debatably 5 if you're a barafag who likes Gumshoe. Apollo and Phoenix are the POV self insert so it's normal they're generic, even so I'd say dad Phoenix in AA4 looks hot.
No. 2146034
>>2145934Godot is my husbando kek
I love finding no retarded AA fans on the wild. I'm kissing all of you nonnies
No. 2146047
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>>2145358>>2145700Reminder that Edgeworth was designed by a FEMALE bl artist, Kumiko Suekane. And she was the one who pushed for Edgeworth to be closer to Phoenix’s age instead of an old moid like her male coworkers originally pitched. A male artist could never be this based without input from women
No. 2146342
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I fucking hate women that draw male characters from joseimuke or other female oriented media as coomer anime girls like picrel. I wanna say SSA women are diseased but at this point I don't even think it's them, just brain damaged pickmes looking to ruining everything for normal straight women to appeal to moids
No. 2146566
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>>2146342>Two "lewd" anime girls>Looking at the assumed male viewerThis is pickme art.
kek at their wide male shoulders and narrow hips. they look like trannies. No. 2146841
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>I wanna say SSA women are diseased
I'm not SSA but what the fuck anon? 99.95% of that art is made by troons/men or pickmes, not even porn sick lesbians usually draw like that unless they're actually a spicy straight. I hope that's bait.