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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
>Painting: Imogen by Herbert Gustave Schmalz (1888) No. 2458055
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>>2458048He has some lovely artwork, would reccommend to all nonas interested in Romanticism
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>>2422912Late to the party but i love 60s-70s Playboy artists. My favourites being Ben Denison and Dink Siegel. Siegel's art is specially breath-taking to me. As someone who loves color but struggles a lot with color theory, i am astounded at his use of color and patterns. If tried to do something similar to his work it would end up being an eyesore for sure. His art is so detailed too, despite the simple style. I love the way there is always so much going on in the background of his art without being overwhelming.
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>>2458060Just looked him up, his art style is very vibrant indeed but some of the subject matter is extremely creepy
No. 2458190
>>2458074Not every dark skinned person has big lips. Kinda weird whenever I see people trying to peddle
poc characters and assuming all black people have big lips. Like, damn, kinda weird stereotype to fixate on.
No. 2458209
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Does anyone know of artists who draw realistic, expressive eyes? i struggle drawing eyes so fucking much so i want to do some studies.
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>>2458209Innocent's mangaka, I forget his name.
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>>2458264NTA, but there's a difference between liking anime but also wanting to draw and research different people out of geniune love and appreciation, and the snotty "eww, anime is too white and eurocentric!!" attitude too many people have while barely if at all taking the time to actually look into what they want to represent and going off their own assumptions (ironically misrepresenting people in the proccess) and seeking validation for it. Like, which one in picrel seems geniune to you?
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wow the regression is in full swing, i really wanna see how her non sketches are gonna look from now on. the shading is so off and there's so many extra lines. its like she thinks of the head and body as separate parts of the piece. i wonder if its the pandering that caused this, since the retards she cater too love going on and on about pick and choose "realism".
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>>2458209Kokou no Hito manga
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>>2458304Onisarashi/0waxwing on twitter
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Oh my goodness, thinking about Brujo and her hypothetical shitty show reminded me that the Lovers is coming out soon. Exciting! Hope the 410K they got was put to good use.
>>2458339The cards could have been made cute and "diverse" so easily but she made them the visual equivalent of soggy stale bread.
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>>2458209I liked the eyes in Ajin: Demi Human
>>2458350Eh I see what you're saying, her forms have definitely improved, but a lot of the swag is gone. I don't think it's permanent though, we'll see how she works out the kinks. However if she ends up going back to the skinnier proportions her fans might eat her alive kek
No. 2458460
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>>2458301Ugh why does every modern western artist has short and fat proportions? i miss her older proportions, they looked like something out of an stylish 00s cartoon. Now it looks like every fat, safe calarts blob.
>>2458350The new proportions dont fit the 00s style shes going for. Now her characters have midget proportions. They look like fat babies.
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Wasn’t sure whether to put this in the fandom discourse thread or here but the Genshin fandom is currently having a field day realising that the artist who drew this much-lauded Laois fanart is secretly an extreme fat fetishist. Make of the following picrels what you will, kek.
No. 2458508
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>>2458476Laiosfag couldn't come, I'm gonna be in her place.
>tfw your husbando fell victim to a turbo autist No. 2458554
>>2458488i don't even consider this a fat fetish at that point, it's basically the same as a quadruple amputee fetish with how immobile/helpless the characters are
>>2458350i agree it probably just looks 'worse' because her style is changing (+ personal preference) but i think she'd keep the less realistic body shapes if she wasn't pandering,
>>2457867 is funny-looking because the boobs are still so pointy
No. 2458628
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>>2458291Nta but can I add on to this and say that I also dislike when they make edits like this? It always look messy to me and I would also prefer if they just made their own artwork instead like your picrel. I love it when there's more love and effort put it to it.
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>>2458633I agree with you but we both know they would complain about it sadly. I would just love to see more art like this because like I said, more love and effort. I wonder why they would do edits like that instead of making something original.
No. 2458727
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Been listening to some more of Twisted Disaster's recent streams and the BS has been kicking up even more with two particular incidents. The first one pertaining to her health and how she claimed that she didn't have her period for almost all of 2024 and was having "phantom periods" and she thought that it was fine and that she didn't feel the need to go to the doctors because she didn't think it was a big deal until she started experiencing excruciating pain at the beginning of the year which finally got her to go get checked. I was just in disbelief of her retardedness there because it should be obvious that when you've continually missing your period, there very well is something wrong and you should go get checked but this grown ass woman waited close to 7-8 months to finally do something. The take away quote she said about it was "Tee hee, is this what normal people feel like?" (in relation to not having her period for months on end).
The other thing that is more recent goes back to her continued job hunt since her art is not paying all her bills and in her last stream, she talked about how she recently applied for a company and how first, she claimed that the company told her that her background check was taking too long even though she sent her info within the 24 hour time frame (there always seems to be something when she's applying to places). But then she says that on the application, she put that she's a Jew and that she can't work on Fridays & Saturdays because she practices Shabbat and long story short, someone else got the position over her. And this bitch really thinks that she didn't get the job because she's a Jew and has experienced racial discrimination. Keep in mind, she says herself (all the time) that she's not a religious Jew as she doesn't practice Judaism but that she's an ethnic Jew but more importantly, it's obvious that the more than likely reason she was passed over for the position was because she wrote down that she couldn't work Friday & Saturday. Had she not said that, she probably would've gotten the job.
All this to say that it's just another example of her trying to play the victim as per usual. So she has decided to buckle down and just try to really push her art again as she thinks that her not getting the job "is a sign" that "she's not supposed to work part-time" and needs to continue with her art. She was able to make it into an artist alley at a con that her friend is going to pay and she'll pay them back bso I mean, good for her but honestly, she's fucking delusional and doesn't seem to realize that she's the one making it harder for herself with getting a job. She has quite the demands for someone who has been out of work for 10+ years.
>She expects to be paid above minimum wage
>She wants a job where she doesn't have to work weekends (understandable but can be tricky to find)
>Doesn't want to work warehouse job because her "chronic illnesS" (aka her obesity that contributes to her issues)
>Doesn't want to work a job where she has to look at a computer screen because it'll jetlag her when she goes home to do her art
>Applied to work at a post office but was afraid she'd face "hate crimes" for being "non-binary" and not being referred to as "they/them"
And now this. I'm just bewildered at how this grown ass woman cannot see that the only denominator that's making things hard for her situation is herself.
No. 2458738
>>2458505I hate the brujo sperging as much as you, but there's nothing about her that justifies a separate thread. Like, aside from her art being ugly and her pandering to retards (typical of most internet artists), there's nothing interesting about her. She's so boring and I don't understand why she's constantly brought up. It actually reminds me of all of the lavendertowne sperging in the earlier threads kek. Anyway, I can't wait for her show or pilot or whatever to come out so the brujo spergs can migrate to the western animation thread
>>2458582I'd love a juby thread but I don't know enough about her lore to make one. I only started following her after the genice thing
>>2458568As far as I can tell, there's no new milk. I was hoping that genice announcing her bna artbook would
trigger juby, but she seems to be laying low. It's possible she ranted in her recent streams but from the little that I've watched, juby seems to be too busy with freelance deadlines to have a meltdown
>>2458727I don't follow TD anymore but I always appreciate your updates TD nona
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>>2458301Her fans clearly hating new Kate but framing it a different way to avoid offending her is hilarious kek
No. 2458831
>>2458813Agreed. She just needs to grow a backbone and tell these people to fuck off and focus on what SHE wants to do, not what she thinks her fans want her to do. She was clearly doing that in the first few iterations of her designs where it did feel like she was doing things that she geuinely liked before she started catering to gendies and she needs to go back to what she was doing before.
>>2458800Pretty much all of what you said. It will never be good enough and never mind that gendies and troons are a fucked concept to begin with which only makes catering to them worse. She needs to focus on the Y2K vibes that got her out there in the first place because it felt like she genuinely liked it and she still managed to find people who liked that style of her work as well.
No. 2458970
>>2458476>>2458488Please tell me you crossposted to bad fetish art thread in /m/ kek. What is the artist's name?
>>2458956A decent amount, but if you're willing to dedicate the amount of grind you would need to excel at something you aren't into, go for furry art. You'll make big cash in no time.
No. 2459044
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What are some artists that like to draw detailed backgrounds? kinda pisses me off that most artists nowadays only draw pinups or sterile compositions without no perspective like
>>2452872 because its easier to pump that on the dozen for twitter updoots.
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>>2459044Naluse flow is my favorite
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>>2458956I did a detailed autism math for you, anon, but then my laptop crashed. Anyways, per her price list
>full-color illustration>the character is a furry>one more character + also furry >they are both beyond fat>at least one step of a gaining sequence addedWill cost 1000$ exactly. Good luck in your deranged fetish career.
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>>2458981Her success was purely off the fact that she emulated the very specific feeling of 00’s animation very well. It’s not like she has an ongoing comic or real narrative that’s being adapted into a show, it’s just bits and pieces of a general concept that she fleshes out occasionally. Her changing her style to pander to a vocal minority of 14 year olds while in active production on her show is just shooting herself in the foot. She has a large following that is there for the vibes and once you change that most people are going to lose interest.
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>>2459095But that circles back to the question of what if she just wants to? I prefer her older style too aesthetic wise, but she shouldn't be forced to keep doing the same art style over and over if she doesn't want to. And she is still a tif zoomer, so expect her to do tif zoomer things. Yeah, people probably aren't going to like it, but who really cares? It's such a nothingburger case of milk.
>>2459094Only twitter, occasionally twitch. Just have to find something to grind at and get a close circle of supportive mutuals.
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>>2459141Yeah but that’s kind of a hallmark of the era she’s emulating kek.
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>>2458209Scums wish.
Some people say the manga sucks tho. I disagree, but see for yourself.
No. 2459200
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any anons have artbooks they really like? i don't mean art tutorial/how to draw books, but ones with work by a specific artist. i just got picrel on an impulse buy, the outfits are really pretty and i've been using it as inspiration
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i keep seeing tims theorize in the replies of shen posts that hell troon out. do you think itll happen? or is he just baiting? honestly when he started drawing more anime i figured that it was the beginning of the end. i hope he face reveals and hes ugly and humongous kek
>>2459200this looks so beautiful nonna! ive been really loving the Wolf Walkers art book! i draw cartoons and find the designs so inspiring!
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>>2459200this book from akiakane, her anatomy can be wonky at times but i love her vibrant color sense and graphical design elements in her pieces. plus this book has a couple step by steps on how she works digitally which is a nice bonus
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>>2459200Just about any Froud book
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>>2459282ayrt but, i personally dont care about the anatomy as much as the bright color and graphical quality of her works, like i said. i dont even want an animu style/dont even care much for it but i like bright colors and patterns. and the flat cel shading reminds me of old internet art which i particularly enjoy replicating the styles of
No. 2459387
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I love the intense colors in this piece and how the skin is shifted to green while the blush looks yellow
>>2459342>I wonder why I picked up a pencil to begin with?for yourself because you are creating what you want to see in the world
>I'm gonna die having an art stylefocus on fundies, then copy art styles from artists you love and merge them together in a way that works
>maybe I should just quit artdo what artspergs do. draw something, evaluate draw again, repeat and compare your progress. it's all in your head. why are you so afraid of criticism? directly ask other people how your art could be better and do that
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>>2459384ntayrt but @xhiaseedzz original tweeted abt it i think, plumpybread on tumblr is the fetishist artist. apparently theyre also lead artist on Project: Edens Garden which is a danganronpa fangame or something?
No. 2459391
>>2459389Bunch of
triggered burgers in the QRTs getting mad because "I-IT'S JUST A FETISH DON'T MAKE FUN OF THEM FOR IT WHO CARES!"
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>>2459392i was looking thru the account more and i think plumpy/greentail might be a tif? they have a video of their hands on twitter and look pretty generic feminine asian hands, and interests + way they draw themselves is girly. They seem to exclusively draw men, but they havent titchopped any of the genshit boys like gendies typically do. idk. pic attached is just funny
No. 2459413
>>2459237>Clone HighAyrt and yeah I hear you. Despite the retarded gendie stuff, I can't deny that I too liked the vibe of her Y2K art style. I probably wouldn't have watched it since my tolerance for gendie stuff is depleted but gotta give some credit for superficial aesthetic.
And yeah, it totally feels like a Clone High situation before the show has even come out and she more than likely will not get another chance at this opportunity so it's such a waste.
No. 2459446
>>2459215He has a lot of TIM markers that would make you think he's definitely gonna troon out, but I think there's actually a chance of him being too normie and self aware to actually do it. The "teehee
toxic girlfail lesbians" posting has extreme male coomer vibes, but he might be aware enough to realize he's a moid with a lesbian fetish but also realize yuri posting is very popular in dorky internet spheres so it's a win win for him to post that stuff. He's probably just a coomer in the same way most standard moids are instead of the autist way trannies are.
Strongest red flag was that drawing of him with the "girl failure" helmet, though, I don't know how to explain that. It would be funny if he's actually baiting trannies on purpose.
Shen's lesbian posting pisses me the fuck off. It's not even directly his fault, because he doesn't engage in any of that discourse, but the way we had multiple years of seething at fujos or any woman writing gay men because "muh gay fetishization" (to the point even trooning out and claiming they were gay men themselves couldn't save them because "muh internalized homophobia"), but a guy that isn't even outwardly trans can blatantly advertise that he's a yuri coomer and all he gets is a bunch of TIMs immedeatly yass queening the hell out of him… makes me seethe hard.
Also, not about him possibly trooning out, but if we're gonna be constantly analysing Brujo Ari's artstyle regression, what's the deal with Shen's art regressing so bad? It looks so shitty compared to his old art. Did he just realize he can get the same amount of hits with less effort or does he actually think that looks good?
Some people make thick lineart work, but shen just makes all the details look cramped and dodgy.
No. 2459461
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Does anyone remember when kyle carrozza was arrested for cp and apparently he denounced another artist in the past for drawing immoral stuff (I think loli or shota stuff) which made the proshippers mad, and when news came out of his arrest people were checking in on the artist whose career was ruined because people in the industry broke ties with them or something like that? I think people were saying sorry to that person for going through that due to the irony of a guy busted with cp saying that he thought that artists drawings were disgusting so he was being fake.
I remember she had a YouTube channel of her dancing on her porch or something and that’s what the comments were, people saying that her accuser got arrested. Was this the same person who worked in amphibia and got exposed for drawing porn of the characters on her private or was that someone else?
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Brujo is so selfhating(repost)
No. 2459470
>>2459467Sorry, I’ll greentext it to see if it’s easier to understand
>woman in the industry drew some questionable stuff >some other industry folk publicly denounce her, including kyle >fast forward a few months or a year later>kyle is busted for owning cp >fans of woman are enraged because this same guy said her drawings were disgusting and he did not condone them>they leave comments on her latest YouTube video asking if she heard the news and that they hope she’s ok (she took a hiatus because of the drama im assuming)Now I’m just wondering if this woman was the same one who got “caught” drawing aged up porn of amphibian characters on her private account or if that was someone else. I hope nonas know who I’m talking about, this amphibian drama was pretty big and mostly people mad because it was “predatory for artists who work on a kid’s show to draw porn of those characters”
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>>2459470>>2459461Ang Vondra? She's been discussed in detail in past threads, go back to the ones from a year or so ago and the earliest Western Animation threads in /snow/ if you want more milk.
No. 2459507
>>24594651. Why does this have 22k likes?
2. In which threads aside this one has she been discussed? I wanna read up, but I feel like I also saw this shit on /m/
No. 2459527
>>2459282When I look at art like this, I'm not worried about the "same face" since it's focused more on high concept and graphical illustration (and thus, decorative with enough storytelling for a person to project upon). In fact, I'm finding that my own art is hitting a certain "wonky" level as I go into this despite being comfortable with life drawing and opting for something illustrative/manga-ish.
Anyway, I like the fast and loose, carefree storytelling; the solely decorative quality that you can lose yourself in. Some of them feel inspired by a passing thought, a meditative trance, an drug trip, or a dream. I like seeing the use of technical choices (layout, color scheme, etc.) that clearly come from knowing what they're doing.
One of my favorites is when you have a "sameface" and suddenly, a realistic character that stands out in a jarring way. I love the chance for juxtaposition as a way to show off both my own and similar artist's skills. It's why it's not a good idea to force yourself into one style: it gives you the capability to reveal your cards as you see fit once you find your stride.
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>>2459200The tekkon kinkret artbook and Yoh Yoshinari artbooks.
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>>2459389>pure vanilla cookieholy fuck how do you look at this thing and think ''hnnngg he would look so sexy if he was morbidly obese and immobile''
No. 2459715
>>2459387>Why are you so afraid of criticism? It feels like I'm never able to correct the mistakes they point out which often times are two of the most boring fundies I can think of (imo): Proportions and anatomy. Anatomy is the lesser of two evils but proportions make me want to game end myself. I just can't understand it? Every time I crack open a how to draw book it's the first thing I see? They ask you think in heads but they never factors into my art so everything feels ever so off. I can at least see some merit in anatomy since I enjoy learning the different muscles. But proportions? Each proportion exercise has left me angry with my wobbly fucking drawing hands and inconsistencies that I don't bother anymore. I'd rather sing the bone connect song while drawing arm muscles. Goes to show how much I hate it…
I also have adhd. Retarded excuse, but along with that I also have rejection problems that implies the person critiquing my work hates it and it can only be loved if it's perfect.
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>>2459717Its interesting how men never struggle with this line of thought. Men dont care about potraying men of other races(or even their own) as attractive or worry about how others might perceive them if they draw ugly characters of certain races. I think it just boils down to most people valuing beauty above all else in women, but not in men. Thats why even gendies who draw ugly fat vitilo bipoc blobs get angry if you dont want to fuck them, because they are women and they are taught to value beauty above all else. Meanwhile men draw shit like picrel or uncle ruckus and no one gives a shit.
No. 2459745
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Every time I see mediocre or worse art on a book cover I feel so bad for the author
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this lacryboy wannabe copycat became popular overnight and I dread her art. there is nothing to it except uninteresting problematic yaoi. Hopefully I’m not the only one
No. 2459915
>>2459889>still end up doing nothing art related>stick to browsing social media insteadWhy do you want to draw vs why do you want to browse social media?
Do you need to browse social media?
If you have a deeper motivation to create art and use social media as mental fast food, just turn off your phone or pc or whatever, you need to force your brain to not browse. Make your drawing tools easily accessible in a cozy place and make your phone a pain in the ass to use.
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>>2459745Honestly I will always prefer mediocre art over the epidemic that was live action/real people covers
No. 2460066
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So this is more than likely going to sound so very dumb of me to ask but I really need to ask this and it has to do with taking commissions. I've been taking commissions since 2017 on the side to my irl job and I have not been doing taxes on them. I assumed that because I wasn't making a ton of money form them, it wasn't necessary but I was recently watching a video talking about commissions and they mentioned taxes and now I think I've made a grave mistake. I never heard of taxes and art together outside of it being your main source of income which is why I hadn't even thought about it. Yes yes, I know I'm dumb and naive to not have known about this sooner but I just didn't.
I'm just wondering how I should be going about this. I'm in the US and though commissions aren't my main source of income and I only take a few a year, I still feel like I need to know this but I don't know where to start so I figured I'd ask for advice here from other freelance artists who more than likely do it as a side hustle and not as a main source of income.
No. 2460123
>>2459446>but a guy that isn't even outwardly trans can blatantly advertise that he's a yuri coomer and all he gets is a bunch of TIMs immedeatly yass queening the hell out of him… makes me seethe hard. God, you nailed it. I couldn't understand what pissed me off about this, but you're right on the nose, nonna. I don't care about moids drawing yuri, but I feel the same should be true about women drawing yaoi. It's literally ONLY women getting angry at other women too, as well as TIFs weaponizing their identity to go "as a gay man, I…", meanwhile troons cheer on moids drawing yuri and speculate on when they're gonna join them.
Also, I hit the fucking reply button but only just realized it didn't actually reply, why the fuck is this website so broken, jesus.
No. 2460133
>>2458956Draw women instead of men and you can make bank, male fat fetish art is uncommon and low demand in comparison to bbw stuff. Or just draw furries like other anon said
>>2459975Eh, I gotta disagree. I think the cartoon covers look childish, which isn’t a bad thing on its own but often clashes with the contents of the actual book, making it cringe, and then you get an Icebreaker situation where kids unknowingly pick up a smut book because the cover makes it look like a book for middle schoolers.
No. 2460168
>>2460135>Brush/CSP asset downloads/dbag/, google
>artbook downloadsexhentai (already in op.), /artbook/ thread, google
>Should I draw porn to get clout?No, because you're one in a thousand of artist who already thought that. Porn is a hyper saturated market as is, and you aren't even doing it for the love of it. What's your edge to people who are better than you and are more passionate about it?
>AI questions and topicsGo to AI thread on /m/.
>How do I schedule my art?Literally google professional artist schedule.
No. 2460188
>>2459975tbh the new cartoon covers made me appreciate the real people covers more. I don't think any of them looks good but at least the real people cover looks dynamic. Compared to the cover at
>>2459745 where the character stands stiffly in boring poses and the background looks like a backdrop, it doesnt look like they are part of the environment.
No. 2460424
>>2460168Also add
>why do "non western" artist so good how can i learn?Different art curriculum and teaching method, they have courses Google it or go on vk or billibilli
>what is this style called Reverse search it or use the help me find thread
>art vent without asking any artistic advice Go use the appropriate vent thread do not doompost here
No. 2460437
>>2460424>why do "non western" artist so good how can i learn?>Different art curriculum and teaching method, they have courses Google it or go on vk or billibilliI don't know about that, I feel like this is just part of mythicizing foreign cultures and thinking all Asian artists are insanely
GOATed based on a handful you see really stand out on social media. Looking at Japanese and Chinese artbooks, they really don't stand out that much and you find a wide variety of skill levels on social media.
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>>2460084Ayrt and thanks for the link, it kinda makes sense though I'm still a bit confused. I don't own a legitimate business, it's just myself and getting my commissions on places like Twitter and DeviantART with individual people, not companies or businesses. And then of course using PayPal as my main form of payment. I don't recall getting a form I had to fill out on PayPal which is why I was thrown aback when I started hearing all this talk about needing to pay taxes even as a freelance artist who occasionally draws for everyday people who just want their OC drawn lol.
Again, I have an IRL job so I don't rely on my art that much which is why I only do a few commissions a year and sell some adoptables periodically.
But anyway, thank you for your input and I'll keep that link bookmarked. In the meantime if any other freelance artists in a similar position (who also live in the US) have anything they'd like to advise or chime in with, I'm all ears, thank you.
No. 2460487
>>2460442Ayrt and thanks for the heads up. Yes I'm American and like I said in my OP, I've been taking commissions individually since 2016 with no knowledge about needing to pay taxes when I do them.
>if you make more than 400$ with commissions in a yearYeah I definitely have made a little over 400 a year so I definitely got get on this. I'm going to try to do more research, I've only taken one commission this year and it was only for 95 but I do plan on opening for more in the near future so I'll keep trying to research more.
>I doubt they'll care about losing out on a few hundred dollars but if you tell them that you missed payments they'll slap you with insane fees.With this in mind, like I mentioned in my op, I operate using PayPal. Would it be better to simply start a new PayPal that is made strictly for commission work and that can be my clean slate or is it fine if I stick with my current account (even though it has money saved in it)?
No. 2460508
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>>2460424>>2460168These are great! If I can be the OP again, I'll put these into the first post so it can be easier to link/to read (and I've noticed anons don't pay attention to the OP) and maybe expand upon them a bit. I agree with the doomposting thing in theory, but I think it might just cause more arguements between anons on what consitutes as okay or not okay for the thread.
>>2460465These probably shouldn't be rules nor treated as such in the first place, it's just so we don't get a million "is furry porn profitable" questions. Of course, things that expand upon that can lead to new topics but the same surface level questions are very boring.
>>2460437Reminder to all that East Asian artists have a similar skill variance to the rest of the world (picrel is Exhibit A), it's just that their secondary art curriculum is harsher and they are taught art differently in kindergarten/early school. A good example of this difference is this one study from the 90s that compared American and Japanese early grade student's art, and the major difference they found was that the Japanese students were taught by directly copying art from booklets and also had more time for art classes, they also had a pretty bad sense of scale.
No. 2460515
>>2460487It would be better to make a business paypal just to be safe. You can use the same bank account for it though. It'll also hide your name from commissioners if you set that up. Check if you have register anywhere as a freelancer. If you make less than 400$ you still have an obligation to report it, even if it's too little to get taxed. Never save money on paypal, transfer it over as soon as possible. They can lock your account basically whenever and for however long they want.
Maybe paypal never sent you a tax form because you got money through the friends and family option? But they also only started doing that recently and the tresholds differ. It can be between 600$ and 5000$ made in goods and services per year depending on state and year.
No. 2460581
>>2459889I rediscovered a quote I saved a few years ago about social media
>"I’d just love to live in a world where our most influential technology didn’t measure its success by the time it took from us."You kind of just don't get anything from the scrolling and viewing other people's stuff. It's a really passive activity, especially if you don't actually talk to the other users.
I also like this one about cooking by yourself, just replace it with making art:
>New bakers are afraid to try to bake.>They may live alone, nobody is watching what they do.>I tell them. Nobody saw that it didn’t work.>Toss the disaster and try again.>There are no witnesses to your mistakes. No. 2460612
>>2458471>>2458476>21 year old tif drawing deformed fat fetish artAs this really cancel worthy?? This is more like point and laugh at the retard worthy, why would it need a callout post? Are zoomers really calling out other zoomers for this?
Also this artist is definitely a tif, anyone who thinks an actual man draws and talks like this is a retard
No. 2460628
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>>2459389morbidly obese cookie fanart, i think i've truly seen it all
No. 2460672
>>2460668Some autistic people are good at drawing what they're interested in. Not every autist is a DA circle tool type.
>This looks way too good for a fat fetishist.It is exactly that it looks so good and so realistic that I can tell it's a fat fetishist.
No. 2460673
>>2460662>drawing kaeluc and pure vanilla cookieMen would not do this. crk is just an extremely tif thing in general.
>>2460668Kek, what? Autists are usually the best artist because the power of their autism makes it so they want to get extremely good at drawing a specific thing that interests them.
No. 2460716
>>2460684I love the bad fetish art thread in /m/. You know when you're eating salt and vinegar chips and they're so fucking good but your mouth is burning but you're like "one more chip" and then an entire layer of skin is missing from the inside of your mouth but you still think you can handle one more chip?
That's the bad fetish art thread for me. It's so god awful but it's genuinely so fucking interesting. I am seeing things my brain could never conceive of on its own. Sometimes the art there is so disgusting I have to hold my breath while scrolling past it, it's awful and retarded and yet. I think I can handle another chip and I click to reveal the spoilered pic.
No. 2460802
>>2460628Is this game genuinely cursed? Everyday I see weird shit coming from that fandom—it is literally the Loud House of mobile gaming.
At least stuff like Blue Archive or NIKKE, it's understandable for fans to be autistic about their waifus because the devs deliberately pander them with stuff like fanservice/wish fulfillment GFs…
BUT THESE ARE FUCKING COOKIES.
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>>2460802Ive seen people refer to the "genshinization" of Cookie Run and i feel like its a big part of how its gotten this deranged fandom. For nonnas without autism, Ovenbreak was the original endless-runner type mobile game from 2009, Kingdom is the 2021 gacha slop townbuilder game with ridiculous dramatic """lore.""" Genshin came out a year before Kingdom and i feel like you can really see the overdesigned bullshit influence
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>>2460815Been playing Ovenbreak since late 2018/ early 2019 and Kingdom since the first day of release (stopped playing after two years), and it's obvious there's this "genshinization" as you mentioned.
You can see it not only in characters' designs and lore, they even imitate the predatory pay-to-win model Genshin Impact promotes.
A shame.
To make it worse, some of the new cookies/costumes can be very cute or interesting but most of the time they're so overdesigned and it ends looking ugly and ridiculous like picrel.
No. 2460875
>>2460508>(and I've noticed anons don't pay attention to the OP)Maybe do something like
nonny nonny borders around it, kek.
>>2460435NTA Honestly I just know there's AI anons lurking to see which artist to scrape next tbh.
No. 2460915
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>>2458738>I don't follow TD anymore but I always appreciate your updates TD nonaNo problem lol.
>>2460681She really is and it gets confirmed with every time she's shared her job hunting stories with the latest two ("nonbinary" discrimination & Jew discrimination) being the biggest examples of it. I get that she wants to do her art full time and if she has the means to do that then she should continue pushing on with it (which she clearly can since her husband is the one who is the breadwinner), but she needs to fucking quit it with the excuses and just be fucking honest or at least stop bringing it up.
Because her self-pity in thinking that the universe is against her trying to find part time work is not doing her any favors and she's the one who's making it hard for herself. If she's serious in trying to find part-time work, she needs to be realistic as a woman who's been out of work for nearly a decade. Either take a part-time cashier job even though she'll only make minimum wage or take a warehouse-type job for more pay but may be more physically demanding. Personally I think she's better off with the cashier type job since it won't be as strenuous on her and she'll still have energy to work on her art but I'm probably bias because that's currently what I do. That or she should do a stay-at-home computer job (as much as she doesn't want to do work on a computer because of aforementioned jet-lag when moving onto her art stuff) as she won't have to worry about gas money that she's also complained about which is why she doesn't want to work for minimum wage.
Either way, she's gotta touch grass if she's serious about her job hunt.
No. 2460928
>>2460515Okay then, I'll just create a new Paypal for business.
>Maybe paypal never sent you a tax form because you got money through the friends and family option?I did a quick check in my PayPal history to see what my commissioners were paying with and if I'm correct, if they were paying with no fee added, that means they selected the "friends and family" option? Because I have a few payments where I got the full amount with no fee but I also have some payments where there was a fee added.
No. 2460977
>>2460961Ayrt and oh okay, I'll try to keep this in mind as well. I'm actually setting up my business PayPal now and I'm getting myself familiar with the invoice. I've never done this before so just trying to practice. Quick question but am I going to have to select the tax exclusive or tax inclusive before sending the invoice once I have the price laid out?
I also heard that with every payment I receive, I should take out 20% and save that towards IRS payment, is that correct?
Again, sorry for the questions but just trying to do this right.
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What did brujoari mean by this?
No. 2461106
>>2461096She posted a comparison of old Kate vs new on twitter and a lot of people were complaining about the changes, and yet I guarantee they'd also come for her if she changed Kate back. Just goes to show creators should never listen to their audiences, maybe she'll be able to find a middle ground that won't get people
triggered kek
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>>2460815>basic kingdom cookiescouldve chose literally any other cookie other than stardust cookie but yea the design philosophy of kingdom has taken way too much from genshin cause a lot of the newer cookies look like animu bullshit
>>2460824hate how the worst of the overdesigned cookies are ones in the main story so you're going to be forced to look at them in game and online. like anyone look at picrel and guess what kind of flavor that purple cookie is at the bottom?
you can really tell which characters are designed by the artists who worked on ovenbreak and those who have only worked on kingdom
No. 2461142
>>2461089I don't think any nonnas have pointed this out but I've noticed she's been making the background colour in a lot of her drawings this dark gray that makes the whole piece look dull and sometimes muddy. She probably learned about that technique where you make the canvas gray instead of white so it's easier to figure out the values and just doesn't bother to change the canvas colour before posting.
I've seen other zoomers keep the background colour gray, but I don't think I've seen them do that with a gray
this dark.
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Anyone else frustrated with the state of photography reference? I want to draw beautiful men: elves, fae, ethereal pretty-boy types to cater to women my age (18-24). Most photo packs that are HD with interesting lighting are coomer pinups photos of nude women. The ones with moids are abysmally ugly or too muscled, fat, are fully or partially clothed, and in stereotypical "heroic" or "masculine" poses.
I mostly reference statues from ancient Greece and make them skinnier or hotter, but there are only so many okay-looking male statues out there. Looking for stuff like in picrel. Degrading but not silly poses of nude hot men I can purchase or download somewhere. I'm tired of objectifying, hypersexualized art of women being pumped out on the daily and want to be the change I wish to see in the world. Please help me out nonas, ty!
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>>2461155they are a bit raunchy but you could look into male of thots
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>>2461198he could work on his photoshop skills cause…
>>2461203some of you really need to grown up from liking deformed cosplayers and animu bois
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>>2461174I'll try but don't want to be jumpscared by disgusting hardcore porn. It's depressing how there's no real equivalent to picrel. I love the interesting lighting and clarity there is in professional photopacks compared to Pinterest for the same reason as other anon. Lots of AI slop, mid males and 200 px photos. Spoiled for nudity.
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>>2461202Thanks nona! I can work with this.
No. 2461263
>>2461219Nope, tomatoes are actually categorized as fruits, specifically they're berries (while strawberries aren't berries).
>>2461238I guess she's a woman but a lot of people think she's a guy? Like a tomato is a fruit but everyone thinks it's a vegetable??
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>>2461259This is such retarded logic. You can transplant a woman's kidney to a man, that doesn't mean they're both female. Plus, the tomato is still a fruit because it has seeds in it and grows above ground on the plant's branches. The potato is the root part of the plant, and it contains no seeds, so it's a vegetable. Technically if you were to graft a tomato onto a potato plant, that would almost make it a berry, because the plant is a bush instead of a vine or a tree. Pineapples are also considered berries for this reason; they grow in a bush.
(derailing) No. 2461274
>>245946522k likes for that garbage i hate this artist so much and everyone as braindead to like this edgy teen slop
the artstyle isnt even unique for every 1 artist who possesses godlike skills there is 100 TIFs who stole an ugly cartoony style from cartoon network and labeled it as theirs and gets 40x more updoots
No. 2461290
>>2461283>Isn't that one of the only reasons to attend a prestigious art school? Probably. I dropped out before I could make any connections.
>Or dm professional artists you like who have a smaller follower count.Wouldn't that get me blocked??
No. 2461363
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>>2458301You know what, I support the uglification of Kate
No. 2461372
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It's totes not a kink guys teehee!
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>>2461427I think she's improving drastically. Just… she's also declining at the same time. She's got that gendie brainrot. She's been called out several times for doing the whole he/him CLEARLY A WOMAN "trans" characters.
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>>2461428Still nowhere near as good as her art in the left, but its def an improvement over her calarts blob era
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>>2461433My guess is she skinwalks meisharan
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>>2461441He's not a bad artist but i wish he was just a fat fetishist instead of pushing his blatant fetish art as representation/diversity because he gets "she's literally me!" comments on his art
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>>2461463I forgot to embed the pic, is this one from CSP V.4
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>>2461433It looks like she's skinwalking aruurara here
>>2461372 No. 2461512
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>>2461466Had to dig, myself. Click on the up arrow to progress the poses. There are a lot in this set. Hope this helps.
No. 2461522
>>2461497Might be. I'm thinking moreso who she's skinwalking for
rendering. It gets weirdly inconsistent around the extremities like the paws and hands. She's definitely using a reference outside of photos.
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>>2461522proly aruurara too, they both have that kinda glossy style
No. 2461570
>>2460815I like the game tbh, just as a timewaster but i agree with everything you said, i played the original game when it was on LINE and the designs were so charming. its sad seeing the designs go from "food flavored gingerbread man" to "literally just an overdesigned chibi anime character" the "story" is so ridiculous too, its actually impossible for me to take it seriously so i just skip it. trying to have a deep edgy lore on a gamw about
sentient cookies is the goofiest shit ive ever seen lol
No. 2461596
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>>2461512nona I'll give you my firstborn as a token of my gratitude thank you so much
No. 2461633
>>2461289…are you sure you had your reading glasses on and mistakenly read 1.8k likes? or 180?
who the hell is kate anyway? it looks like generic run if the mill instagram “artist” slop. so why do people keep glorifying this oc? its not even unique, its just a tan and red hair. please dont tell me its just 180k for some random shitty doodle
No. 2461641
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>>2461363This one is cute, she's won me over too.
No. 2461648
>>2461633Clean 2000s style nostalgia, people are interested because the artist is working on a show for her characters.
Her stuff keeps getting posted here though because she's cringe about transgender things and easily influenced by her teenage audience.
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>>2461633ok my memory's shit so i thought it was 180k kek, it was actually 153k. still absurd to me
No. 2461674
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is it true that Yaelokre is behind the WHOLE visual production of her work besides the music? way too elaborated for a single person, but not impossible.
someone speculated Chapell Roan might be a pop industry plant and I am so far guessing the same for the Yael girly, but like for pop folk music
No. 2461683
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Is it possible to replicate the texture of traditional paintings on digital? i hate being a poorfag but i dislike when digital art looks glossy and plastic.
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>>2461437I thought it was a Belldandy shop at first. This is Clamp fanart but the pose struck me as similar. That hairstyle is very late 90’s, it’s nostalgic.
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>>2461708Thats really cool, thanks. I really want to replicate the texture of Rockwell's paintings.
No. 2461721
>>2461652>>2461714her work and lore are genuinely interesting but It does seem too garnished to just had exploted out of nowhere.
I found a Russian tiktok artist with a very style similar to hers but that precedes hers by two years, but had the average views/following of the run-of-the-mill small indie artist.
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>>2461674I've been following Yaelokre from literally the second her songs started coming out
not really a fan anymore, I do believe she is the only one drawing anything and she's not a plant, Harpy Hare just got stupid popular with underage animation memers (to the point were even she is sick of the song kek) and I think her parents are supporting her financially.
>>2461714>>2461721She's not signed to any label and her producer is a no name who has a public history of making music years before her and so does the woman who does her mastering. You guys are underestimating underage fandom animation meme tards, for example GHOST's entire career is because of them.
No. 2461754
>>2460066Kek I recently stopped doing commissions for this shit. I'm an eurofag and it doesn't even help that the laws aren't clear or are grey areas where anyone can interpret anything. Where I live I would need a business license to do art commissions (I've been doing them for like 3 years, ready to get my ass blown out by fines) but I make less than $2000 a year and to open up a business I would need like $2900 alone, then add the accountant fees and additional costs. Basically they're telling me to either pay them more than what I earn so I can legally draw stupid shit for people on the internet, or fuck off and not earn anything at all. Fucking leeches.
>>2460928Don't fuck with Paypal's fees, they will block your account and hold your money if they find out you're scamming them through the friends and family option. But iirc you don't even need a business account to send invoices. In Europe they don't count like actual business invoices (Paypal only needs them to keep track of your transactions) and they will fuck you up if you try to make a business account without having an actual business.
No. 2461793
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this guy annoys me so much with the "by JG GenesisKeys" on every post like yes of course its you, who else is drawing colorful down syndrome midgets with giant BBL asses
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Many such cases
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>>2461807>on TCalling it, she will fully troon out and redraw picrel (she’s the og artist) but in reversed situation, you think it’s two butches but it’s actually two “gay men” (cringe delusional tifs)
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I believe it doesnt matter what shortcut an artists uses (3d models, heavy references, the works) it doesnt matter as long as the artist can deliver fully rendered, coherent pieces.
That being said, It always bothers me when they never explicitly state wether they're using 3d models for backgrounds, there are some that can be reasonably understood as having been crafted from scratch but others not so much, like picrel. I know idiot zoomers and ignoramuses would pester them nonstop for "taking unfair shortcuts" and shit but still
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>>2461806>>2461807Kinda reminds me of what happened with Lydia Fama
>”ace sapphic” married to a lesbian for years>lesbian wife isn’t ace but goes along with your ~asexuality~ because she loves you>divorce her because you’re a trans boy>realize you’re a GAY trans boy(straight woman)>around the same time realize you’re actually “grey ace” (experience sexual attraction)Butch/gnc lesbians trooning out and realizing they’re into men sounds like such a nightmare scenario kek I have to remind myself these are just mentally ill bi/het women.
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>>2461933>>2461971It’s worse than that, the comic saying 4 years is from 2017. They divorced in 2023. 10 years of this kek
No. 2462060
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>>2461372Poser fake fan thought her quills were hair,didn’t even realize that she’s a fucking porcupine and now she just some non-descriptive,mammalian creature.Couldn’t even be bothered to draw her dandrufff,the fucking reason why she was named “FLAKY”.I hate zoomers who didn’t grow up with this show appropriating it,especially with Puppychan’s obsession with making ‘fanart’ of things she was never into.
No. 2462160
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>>2462151>>2461238She took this word for word from twitter, analysing this is like analysing picrel. Vapid, meaningless.
No. 2462166
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>>2461363Kek. I don't understand what is driving her to do this, this one is the most blatant downgrade so far. Look at this shit, as you guys all know your character and pose should be immediately recognizable from the silhouette. Drawing 1 is a tall young woman likely in a formal/modern dress from the close-fit long dress and high heels, posing cockily. It's dynamic and to use a pretentious faggot word, even has contrapposto. It's clearly competent! And what the fuck are we getting from the silhouette on the right? Is that a long lost McDonald's mascot?? A stout and stiff babushka? Perhaps a fucking astronaut? I'm all for artists leaving their comfort zones and learning how to draw fat girls but you have to draw them well. You have to fucking try
No. 2462236
>>2462166She's just channeling Janice from Mean Girls kek. The silhouette thing is stupid though, I don't think a drawing of skinny Kate with her arms by her sides would look very readable if blacked out either. Could've used an actually dynamic pose like
>>2461641 for your dumb comparison.
No. 2462366
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Sometimes, man, tutorials do things to my mood. Just… I'm sure it's a ESL issue but jesus christ.
No. 2462453
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>>2462448Nippon moids are sadistic degens that get off to torturing and instilling fear in women. they just slap the horror label on their works to justify ryona women abuse as faux deep shock art
No. 2462462
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>>2462453Absolutely. Doesn't help that their judicial system works on the "they have never done a crime before so they get a light sentence", which leads to some of them saying shit "I just wanted to see what happens." The horror genre is just them expressing their fetishes of doing heinous shit to women in "art form".
vid unrelated
No. 2462477
>>2462475And I'm guessing this is why some commission artists don't like using PayPal? I mean, what else could one use to receive payment that would be better than PayPal?
Again, I'm so stuck in the early 2010s because PayPal was the only thing I heard about in terms of getting paid for doing digital art commission work lol.
No. 2462521
>>2462477It doesn't really matter if you use Paypal or not imo. Paypal is fine with you doing commissions as long as you pay them their fees by using invoices (be careful eurofags, these are not actual invoices and have no value outside of Paypal) unless you make tons of money, that's where they might become suspicious and may be able to send info to your state/country. For me personally the issue is the same, I could use different apps but as long as the money goes into my bank account (which they should, it's not ideal to keep money on Paypal or other apps) I'm still in danger of being caught by financial authorities or whatever they're called in english.
>>2462463I'll be honest, I've been seething because I'm a neet and I had regular clients that would even tip me and recommend me to their friends. It was great until the laws changed in my country and now if I sell more than 3-4 times a year I'm required to open up a business (again, not possible because it's very pricy and I would be shooting myself in the foot), before there was only an earnings threshold and it was perfect for me. Now technically many people fly under the radar and never get fines, but it's still a lot of risk and in my position I don't really want to get into debt because of fucking art commissions.
>>2462470That's because children mowing the lawns get paid in cash. No one sees a thing. With Paypal and online payments in general everything is traced and can be used by your country to fuck you up.
No. 2462592
>>2462577nta Normally I would want to choke the shit out of you for recommending using AI.
But.
You have a good point? Nobody wants to fucking do it in the first place and it's usually for gooner moids. Painting over the AI might be the method to use so that it's less labor-intensive. I used to do NSFW for the fat cash too, but HM. Food for thought indeed. Only downside is if someone catches you in the act kek
No. 2462601
>>2462577Honestly no. I'm not too reliant on commissions since I have an irl job and I just use commissions as some extra money for a rainy day fund and even though I'm not always thrilled to draw softcore nsfw, I don't have to do it all that frequently thankfully and I'm just not someone who is into AI. I've accepted that it's not going away anytime soon but I'd rather not play into the system of it since I genuinely like drawing and making art lol.
I get what you mean and sure, if you were using it for your own work and not contributing to stealing the work of others, it could be a (lazy) but useful tool but I just don't think I could do that.
>>>2462592>Only downside is if someone catches you in the act kekYeah, isn't that what happened with RossDraws, not a NSFW artist but a popular artist who resorted to doing AI Art trained with his art style.
No. 2462605
>>2462592who cares if someone calls you out? who the hell cares about the integrity of porn, you look at it, you masturbate and you move on, as long as you are using your own work for it, it's not really unethical to use AI on this case.
>>2462601glad that you love making art,
nonnie No. 2462691
>>2462605>who cares if someone calls you out? who the hell cares about the integrity of porn, you look at it, you masturbate and you move on, as long as you are using your own work for it, it's not really unethical to use AI on this case.ayrt Even gooners sometimes get up in arms about artists using AI to assist in making art. It'd affect the customers. Keeping it under wraps is dishonest but necessary in this case.
>>2462662>I'd rather suck and be shit at it than to trace ai porn whos origins are murky and could be illegal and if I train my art in a model that could mean someone else making ai child porn in my style (because your personal ai models are never "personal") i dont want to contribute to ai willingly at allI don't know how much of that is true but it does give me second thoughts on using it for this purpose. At the same time, a lot of our anatomy books' information come from digging up cadavers illegally or doing experiments on people (medical journals from Germany and all). I think
maybe we'd be removed enough from the source to not be directly contributing to what's already been done.
>making ai child porn in my style (because your personal ai models are never "personal") … you mean loli/shota art? I think that's negligible because I'd personally never find out kek
No. 2462698
>>2462671Ntayrt, but the keywords don't guarantee that the actual data used was ethically sourced, just that whoever handled the data said "yeah sure, the figures in these images LOOK like adults/non-sex trafficking
victims/etc" when feeding it to the model
No. 2462707
>>2462671Yes Because we all know a ai can tell whens a vagina an adult? It cant be moids who were making realistic child porn were specifying what age of the vagina is
>>2462691You're comparing medical cadavers to tracing over possible child porn so you can earn some pennies from coomer moids read what you wrote one more time and no I still wont be tracing over ai porn
No. 2462709
>>2462707Pennies? I'm not trying to convince you. I think it's still wrong? Desecration of a corpse is still illegal in my country kek
I'm just saying that It's probably not likely?
No. 2462715
>>2462707>medical cadavers samefag
>>2462709 WAIT WAIT WAIT LMAO You don't know about grave diggers???????? Holy shit I'm losing it.
No. 2462719
>>2462717You're making some massive leaps here.
I know anatomy and don't use it. I'm just exploring the possibility of making moid-targeted coomer slop for cash using the least amount of effort imaginable. Wasn't my idea originally. I am not
>>2462577 No. 2463014
>>2461754>I recently stopped doing commissions for this shit.I just don't do taxes kek legally in my eurofag country I should be, but even when asking others they all (wrongly) thought there was an upper limit (which I do not hit) to how much you're allowed to earn per year from a hobby income before you need to pay taxes on it. Turns out there isn't and you should pay for everything you earn even if it's $1, but I'm using the fact that everyone
thinks there is such a rule to pretend I didn't check and I also think that. So if I get in trouble I can act shocked and pretend I wasn't doing it on purpose.
No. 2463029
>>2462982The imgbrd grabber
>>2462949 I mentioned here searches most popular images boards all at once. It breaks every now and then but it's the same result as your suggestion but amplified by a customizable amount. It's great for stalking artists you like without having to go on the sites they post.
No. 2463338
Nonas what are good sites that let you make and customize a portfolio for free? I’m looking for ones that let you create sub groups/categories for different genres, like character design, background art, animation, etc
>>2463233I opened commissions around last year and noticed that a lot of clients were vtubers. How does the market not manage to saturate yet? I hope vtubers and their demand still goes strong when I open up commissions again
No. 2463589
>>2463338>Nonas what are good sites that let you make and customize a portfolio for free? I’m looking for ones that let you create sub groups/categories for different genres, like character design, background art, animation, etc I'd like to know this too because so far, the only site that kinda has that organization is DeviantART from what I've noticed (and use) lol
>I opened commissions around last year and noticed that a lot of clients were vtubers. How does the market not manage to saturate yet? I hope vtubers and their demand still goes strong when I open up commissions againI think so long as these Vtubers don't resort to AI slop, us artists should be fine lol.
No. 2463592
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This troon and Brujoari are two sides of the same zoomer-TIF-pandering coin, I can’t explain it but she pisses me off in the same way kek
No. 2463707
>>2463688It's good if you can manage to not piss anyone off. Lots of "
problematic" stuff flies under the radar simply because it doesn't cross the timeline of the wrong person on the wrong day. Maybe tiktok would make more sense if you're looking to grow a following and make money
No. 2463880
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>>2463731Different fandom but damn you just reminded me of an artist who’s obsessed with Volo from legends arceus and ships him with her buff male oc. A few months ago she suddenly gave Volo boobs and hasn’t stopped since + made a lookalike tif oc of him kek
No. 2464063
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>>2463880Volo with titties is just Cynthia—
On the flip side, I can honestly respect a person who fucks up a character so bad that they go "You know what? It's an OC now." Beats trying to force people to accept very inaccurate headcanons. picrel is extremely warped Megaman OCs
(from left to right it is Omega, Copy X, Cyberelf X, Zero(Z), X, and Zero.) I could sperg about this person's evolution of weird animal fixations to OCs due to some sort of obsession with Flights Arising or whatver. It was endearing to witness kek No. 2464141
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>>2464104Mix of people making fun of young artists' Mary Sues and oc donut steels turning OCs that are clearly inspired by one specific media into something to cringe at and then the rise of social media. You get more likes if you draw fanart. If you start adding certain traits to those characters your art will become more recognizable. People start to follow because they like how the character you're obsessed with looks. At this point it might as well be an OC and you're either clinging onto it being fanart because you can't think of a personality or story for them yourself/you're scared of losing the original following you've built/you think making it your own would be cringe or you make something up to use as a background and now it's your OC.
No. 2464263
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>>2461897>>2461995Dosed T for dysphoria. Got called trans. Am not. Remained and still remain a butch lesbian.
Detransing, still a lesbian. With or without T… Still a lesbian.
There is no pipeline. These are bi women at best.
No. 2464356
>>2464263These are women who think so lowly of themselves and want so badly a community that will accept them for being "failed women" that they run to the label that'll make them feel most special. Then the second they get a taste of false testosterone induced confidence they finally feel worthy of men.
The fakebian to mlm straight girl pipeline is so real. I don't understand why they don't call themselves bisexual from the beginning and save everyone the headache.
No. 2464595
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Does anyone have any other schedules similar to this for busy people?
No. 2464943
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Am I the only one seeing the pinching emoji on some Xitter artists' bios? What is it supposed to mean?
No. 2464975
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>>2464943Makes incels seethe because they think it's about their dumbass dicks. They'll bitch and moan about it if it appears anywhere until the game devs or artists or whoever else get rid of it. I don't know if people putting it into their bios are trying to send a message though
No. 2464981
>>2464943Like anon said, it's supposed to mean that you speak "a little" of a langauge, but moids hate it because they have mean man-hating feminists living rent free in their heads and think it's a dogwhistle meant to insult their tiny dicks. It may or may not be in some cases, but getting this
>>2464975 paranoid about it proves they're just insane kek.
Based if true tho>hateful feminist gesturelmao this is just like news outlets panicking over the "ok" sign.
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>>2464356>>2464263Not that I have a bone to pick with the topic, but in my experience, way too much of these aro ace lesbians turn out to be straight women who just hate men and prefer platonic relationship with women.
No. 2465080
>>2465064I started looking into it more and it seems I can edit business info on my personal account invoices without needing to upgrade, and the invoices show correctly with only the username/business name shown.
I think my personal account was already labelled as a faux individual business since I had to provide regular identification when I was doing frequent invoices when I first made it. Probably similar to your case where it confirms I don't need to be registered.
No. 2465082
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>Randomly come across this artist who's a blatant Khyleri (even to the media type, One Punch Man, Konosuba, Evangelion, Frieren) rip-off only that they draw porn and it's moid gazey as fuck
>"Eww, typical scrote"
>Scroll down further out of morbid curiosity:
>The porn becomes less gross and more tender(ish)?
>Come across picrel(s)
>"Wtf, no scrote would draw men this cute"
>Scroll further…
>A Caitvi comic
>Art of Link lovingly eating Zelda's pussy
>Bishie art of Edward Elric
>"Is this a fucking a woman??"
>Old selfie confirms it
Why do women do this to themselves?? Is the moid coombuxx really that profitable? One look at the newest art and anyone would assume it was drawn by a scrote! But it isn't?
Imagine drawing scrote porn when you could of draw porn of these two instead. Fucking hell.
No. 2465089
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>>2465083because instead of using her powers to draw cute men she draws shit like this
No. 2465095
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>>2465089Why does it look ai generated?
No. 2465106
>>2465089>>2465089>>2465095That's depressing. Why draw what you want when you could get 30x the followers by drawing coom anime girl memes. I guess I can't blame people for doing whatever needed to make income off of art, but sometimes it seems like more of a case of wanting to be online popular.
Maybe one could argue she is drawing what she really wants, but I don't know..
No. 2465113
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Since Khyleri is mention, why is nobody talking about how badly his art regressed?
No. 2465120
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>>2465113for comparison, this is how his old art looked like in 2022
No. 2465122
>>2465113>>2465120I don't know, it kind of looks the same to me? He just doesn't render that much anymore—presumably to pump out art faster? Considering his notoriety.
I still miss the look of his old art. The rendering was kind of "muddy" looking but had its charm. His current style just looks sterile now.
No. 2465132
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>>2465122It's not just rendering but also attention to small details, his older pieces had so much sovl, even his coomer art was tasteful but now he stood to "porn = funny" level and desperately asking people to throw patreon money at him to just see the full image of an anime girl lifting her shirt
No. 2465170
>>2465082>Is the moid coombuxx really that profitable? Yes, actually. Considering how people go "no1curr" about OCs and hate on headcanons and personal ships, the better approach is to post coomslop online and post personal art privately to people you actually give a shit about. It separates personal life from work and you don't have to deal with people ripping into the shit you actually tried on.
I know anons here insist women must have sterile galleries and only draw NSFW if it's lesbian and the like, but being an artist fucking sucks, let's be honest for a second. Unless you are doing it as a side hussle or purely out of enjoyment, commercial arting for the little guy sucks as we gotta sell our souls to the devil until we come up with an alternate plan or Make It.
It's sad to see, but damn, eating food and having the money to buy food is nice. Not everyone can have a normal job and just not do art for a living. Some people played their cards wrong and have to resort to this shit kek.
Additionally… how many people in this thread actually draw? Out of curiousoty? It might explain the disconnect we have here at times.
No. 2465222
>>2465170I wonder as well. At that artist's skill level, the difference between coombux and regular commission profits is very noticeable and it's retarded not to pander to coombrained men if she's trying to get essential bills paid. It's sad and I hate to see it, but asking "why" makes no sense unless she's expressing genuine joy in the subject matter. Even in that case, I honestly doubt the interest is genuine, especially on public platforms like twitter, since it's in your best interest to seem like you genuinely enjoy what you draw (moids that are pleasant to deal with business-wise generally don't want to feel like they're making you draw something you don't like or hate). However,
>>2465214 is right and I also think it's retarded when people sell their souls if they have the option to just be a wagie and draw what they like on the side, I only coombux max if I'm between jobs or have a major sudden expense I need to take care of fast.
No. 2465241
>>2465220It
is possible. Absolutely. That's how bara artists climb. But unfortunately it doesn't sell
as fast as titty does. There's a sort of hierarchy of speedy to achieve popularity and notoriety. But what that hierarchy is also, is affected by skill level and personal connections. Plus, there are some tactics you can deploy to assist with the climb (i.e. drawing thirst posts of current Dragon Ball antagonist of current arc when arc is popular, etc)
No. 2465291
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Anyone else have a kind of unhealthy mindset about followers, specifically mutuals?
There was this artist who had a cute art style so I followed them on instagram. Her art reminded me a bit like a friend’s and I thought she’d love her art too, so I sent her her URL and she loved her art as expected, their styles had the same cutesy vibe, and she followed her as well.
Some time later, I noticed that this artist followed my friend back so they were now mutuals. This did sting me a bit because it just confirmed that artist probably checked my profile and didn’t care for my art. I get it though, no popular artist ever follows me back (by popular I mean like 70k+ followers), but it just hurts to come to terms that your art objectively sucks and isn’t as appealing. Just not cool enough for popular artists to instantly follow you back.
Though I gotta admit I do the same. As ive said, I’m too obsessed with keeping track of mutuals and the untold pressure of following back myself too. Someone just followed me on almost all platforms (twitter, bluesky, and tumblr) so they’ll definitely know if I follow them back. I just dont want to because their art doesn’t appeal to me, oh the irony etc etc. sadly ive seen artists follow me for a while and then unfollow after some time of me not following them back thanks to an app that tracks unfollowers. I check this app every once in a while just to see who is unfollowing me, I can’t help but be curious about it. I do check every single new follower I get since getting new ones is rare for me.
Overall, I do get hurt when I’m not good enough for artists I look up to, and the fact that I got rejected for the 2nd time in a row for a project I really want to partake in doesn’t help. But I understand artists not wanting to follow anyone back because it’s their choice. However, I did follow back these two accounts that followed me whose art I didn’t really care for to follow in the first place, but its cute enough and they are popular on twitter so I decided to follow them back, since art mutuals are something I still desperately need more of, especially ones that actually talk and interact with their followers often. Sorry nonas I can’t help it, I’m a very shallow person
No. 2465298
>>2465291for the love of god please uninstall this app and download a plugin that hides your follower count. I struggled with this issue for years and eventually got tired of feeling hung up over breaking a mutual/not getting a follow back from an artist I havent interacted with or have anything in common aside from liking their artwork.
>>2465297here comes the contrarion, tell us dear Nona with amazing taste what is your ideal moid
No. 2465312
>>2465298I know, but honestly I just want to see the information because I’m the type that would usually want to know the “ugly” truth instead of the bliss of ignorance. I’m mainly thinking of this girl from an art server who I made mutuals with on instagram, and my tracking app is for twitter not IG so I happen to find this out by chance, but I realized that she was no longer following me and I was still following her. It actually made me so mad and wish she’d just softblock so I didn’t keep following her, because I was probably still liking her posts like a damn fool for a period of time, still unaware. I felt used and stupid ngl.
Yea this is a chronically online take but I do believe in the online etiquette of softblocking instead of simply unfollowing a mutual on any social media site, I didn’t really understand why people emphasized this on their profiles but understood why when it happened to me firsthand
No. 2465313
>>2465310nta See, this is exactly why I wrote
>>2465170 ; peopl will absolutely rip into the shit you actually try hard on.
No. 2465324
>>2465319Some do, yes. I was in a bara server that had a head mod that would grill the fuck out of you if you were a woman looking to illustrate bara. Those types usually gatekeep
hard, due to the way they're perceived in Japan; homosexuality is frowned upon unless strictly in fiction afaik. Times could've changed since this was years ago, but guys like that effectively chase women out of the field kek
No. 2465332
>>2465312the ugly truth usually isn't that ugly and you are taking it way out of proportion by worrying over all these potential scenarios when it could be as simple as wanting to follow specifically for the content and not necessarily the art skill, similar nationality/age, similar personalities.etc
Remember that you have literally no idea who these people are aside from pixels on a screen and they have absolutely no impact on your life except making you more paranoid.
The ugliness is actually mundane in truth, social media has dramatized a lot of social interactions people have with one another.
>>2465317>>2465319barafags scarcely follow women who happen to draw buff men. Usually they congregate towards the same hyper-roid hyper-size musk coom fodder and not tasteful yaoi pinups made by a woman. Unless you're actually drawing bara-esque shit that describes the latter like what
>>2465324 says, they'll grill you for being a tourist
No. 2465341
>>2465334I swear this specific scrote was a weeb, but he insisted otherwise and said he was still living in Japan and looking to move to the US. No offense to ESL, but I think his English was a bit too…
nuanced for him to be native Japanese.
No. 2465344
>>2465336Considering you're not the only one who likes them dangerously close to baraslop, I'd say separate your accounts. You can have one for pandering and one for true dedication to your interests. Your fans will definitely be a bit more devoted to your art if it's something they enjoy.
I'm a small time artist, but some fans I have will even like my posts if I wrote it with my feet kek
No. 2465355
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>>2465321>baras>image is two slightly beefed up men>picrel is actual bara contentNo shit Ill comment on the fact that you nitpick and complain about female artists drawing "ugly men" when in reality their taste is simply not your type. No one is holding a gun to the artist's head, they're waving around money and easy validation instead, most people would sell out rather than deal with endless complaints and scrutiny
No. 2465366
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>>2465355samefag if you want a ogre moid in a bara style for comparison this is what it looks like. snegoush's orc looks like a bishie in comparison
though I'm willing to bet you'll say they both look the same to keep that contrarian streak No. 2465386
>>2465377The green men posted looked way hotter than
>>2465366 pic rel? What are you on nonna?
No. 2465395
>>2465390Re-read my comment
>>2465297 and point out where i shamed anyone but the fictional moids that dont exist and dont have feefees. Next its going to be ''misogyny'' to insult Nikke waifus. I had no idea cartoons had rights and feelings and needed a white knight squad to defend their honor from mean comments.
No. 2465435
>>2465413Men can agree on one thing but women have to moralfag over the difference in height and muscle mass kek.
>>2465424I'm gonna draw the things you don't like out of spite.
No. 2465476
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>>2465453>Why aren't more women tossing money then?They are, people just assume they aren’t when it’s really creators who don’t value women’s tastes. Just look at the popularity of LaDs.
No. 2465501
>>2465473This isnt true there are tons of women who make yaoi and draw sexy men in the top ranks of nsfw patreon. Lilydusk, tonirenea and
>>2465476 are in the top 10.
No. 2465583
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>>2465521>>2465476not my thing but good for her for proving that sexy moid art can be profitable. I don't like the principle of drawing for profit but god is shitty daddy dom mafia fantasy patreon art the lesser evil over loli coomer pixiv fanbox hentai
No. 2465590
File: 1743189696087.jpeg (386.8 KB, 1600x2048, GTNFcmZWIAAeunP.jpeg)
>>2465521This just means everyone here has a chance to make it kek. Iversiin has like 1k patreon members and I've always hated her art, it looks so fucking stupid but since there's barely anyone else drawing these things she makes bank. A lot of female coomers are into yaoi and the ones that do yoom tend to focus on their oc ships which excludes people that don't like getting cucked
No. 2465624
>>2465583the self insert being fat and dumpy is really fucking funny
>>2465521it's because they speak english, are consistent, and actually know what their audience wants. sure there are far better artists but they dont draw this stuff and if they do it'd probably be some crazy comic with their own characters not random american woman x gojo
No. 2465634
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>>2465630The Madonna bra is a good question. Why is this artist drawing her breasts like the pointed square titties from Kim Possible?
No. 2465690
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>>2465670>>2465650>>2465662>>2465644Confirmed by the humble pooners of the youtube comment section
No. 2465707
>>2465690Those comments gives me brain damage
>This project is increasingly being built with gold and diamondsThat will be just a generic highschool romance, zoomers lack of good taste
No. 2465754
>>2465673If you primarily draw for men, you can do both and not get called out. Vs if you start off drawing for women and make that your primary audience, you'll attract insane banshees who'll go batshit if you draw something they don't like, and brain damaged tifs. It's still a no brainer. Drawing the occasional hot guy or fujoshit picture will not deter your male audience, and their comments will be more like "wtf" than "omg she drew something
problematic blacklist her"
No. 2465774
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Anons will make up incredibly elaborate scenarios to justify not drawing meanwhile mgong and auroradiation are drawing pedoshit and get thousands of followers and likes. Its so obvious its a larp and none of you draw or have more than 12 followers on shitter.
No. 2465848
>>2465774by your logic you can draw baby rape and cub sadism and get popular? glitchedpuppet did both and she forced a teen to get raped by a dog, selling out your morals for quick popularity is easy the real test is getting popular and still upholding
basic morals and if you dont well…this thread always needs more artcows but dont cry then
No. 2465888
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>>2465874Mamimi also comes to mind, he draws the most disgusting shit imaginable with Komi and he still has 346,6k followers on twitter
No. 2465896
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>>2465888Dolphins really do this. They're sadistic and rapey, bc they are mammals and can be male
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>>2465901It was pretty shockingly detailed for an animal-on-human rape scene in a cartoon they knew kids would be watching. He also rubs the dolphins belly and it turns pink. Considering they let kids wear therrien costumes in class and that exists at all, it makes me wonder Idk
No. 2465932
>>2465926>Aurora had to separate her shotafag art in an alternate account because she kept getting suspended and mgong jumps between multiple art accounts before DFE because she'd become schizo over followers interpreting her artwork incorrectly. None of those has anything to do with being called out. You keep proving me right.
If auroradiation doesnt get called out despite drawing porn of an irl child, you will be fine. If you still want to keep making excuses, then keep wallowing in your misery alone and stop shitting up this thread with false information.
No. 2465954
>>2465891I don't know where the idea of "anons saying don't draw at all" I said to cater to men then spring your female oriented drawings onto them is a safer route vs catering to women from the very start will make you a bigger target. Look at how anons in dozens of past threads have shat on mgong she's hyper aggressive but she's schizo so I doubt any sort of callout or lolcow thread would affect her the same way it would a saner person. It's also likely a ton of tifs shitting on her as well since she draws tif art. Compared to
>>2465082 who I've never seen posted until this thread. She posted those male drawings in 2024, which was not long ago, and she's been drawing big titty coombait way before then.
>>2465915This, look at the tif upthread who got called out for fucking fat fetish art. I've seen multiple popular moid artists with similar/larger followings who have fat fetishes and at worst they're mocked in closed circles, not a single public callout. Why the fuck is a fat fetish callout worthy?
No. 2465970
>>2465933When I was 18 I drew multiple mildly suggestive pictures of a canonically 17 year old male character and a now ex-friend (who was a tif in her mid 20s) tried to cancel me and called me a pedophile luckily I did not have a large audience and she only had a couple hundred followers so very few people gave a fuck about her and I ignored it but I lost a few friends and a couple dozen followers because of it. I still draw men but I avoid any characters that aren't confirmed to be in their mid 20s+ lest somebody pulls the 21 year old minor shtick on me. Nobody cares if you draw 17 year old or younger female characters in suggestive situations though, it's really a terrible double standard. I also recall that one Japanese woman who drew lots of tribal looking tanned men and she got called out due to it as well, despite many other Japanese male artists drawing the same trope with women (such as Gashi Gashi) and nobody giving a fuck about it.
Also only semi related, I follow multiple male and female artists who have posted/liked vaguely transphobic things in the past (not in their art) and guess which artists I've been warned about by tifs for being
problematic? Only the women.
No. 2466037
>>2465220Nah, I've seen gay male and some female artists make it. You just have to be
really skilled at your art skills though.
No. 2466091
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Does anyone know the possible gender of this artist? They’re that type of artist where I genuinely have no idea. For background, this artist used to draw love live yuri, mostly rin and hanayo I think. Now they’re pretty much known for their comic where a buff lady takes care of a little boy. For a while I thought this child character was a girl and a lot of others thought the same, judging from an old viral post of theirs.
The comic is obvious pedobait, lots of inappropriate scenes between a child and adult, but no straight up porn. I remember reading on /a/ that this person used to draw shotacon art but I don’t know if they were just bullshitting.
I can’t figure out the gender of this artist because the way women are drawn is pretty moidy but seeing a child character drawn in such a lolibait way who’s actually a boy confuses me too. I hope other nonas have seen this artist before
No. 2466093
>>2465874That, and they're both Eastern artists. As if they'd give a fuck is some teenage TIF finds their art
problematic.
No. 2466097
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>>2466091Here’s another example of clearly moidy art. Another reason why I can imagine the artist being a moid is because of their old love live yuri art, I imagine that it’s mostly men drawing that type of yuri because it just had that sort of vibe not found in female artists.
But I’ve never seen a moid artist draw their designated shota self insert that cute either
No. 2466102
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>>2466100So just a moid who’s probably a bisexual pedo too? He draws the shota in lots of pedobait ways as well. It’s just the cuteness that puts me off
No. 2466106
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>>2466102probably, female shotafags tend to give the shota a mora bratty attitude rather than just moeblob. Think about ciel, hanako or picrel. All done by women.
No. 2466173
>>2466088I e-dated a moid for a year or so. He knows all of my personal information. All it takes is for me to slip up
once and he could expose all of my information to the public. I think little things like that end up being the crack in the whole thing. Hoping he dies before ai give him a reason to expose me for anhthing.
No. 2466329
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How do I practice making different expressions with the faces? I wonder how artists make theirs so expressive and good looking.
No. 2466580
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Gatchashit so it's far from a perfect/good design, but I do hope brownie points people realize they can make disabled OCs/fan characters appealing like picrel.
Every time I see a wheechair character by random artists they're fat black 2000 mental illness vitiligo slash queer and as someone who has chair-bound family/friends due to accidents, it feels so disprecful. And if you dislike them, then they say it's because you're a nazi or whatever instead of admiting it's because their design looks like a monkey caricature.
I wonder if they're a way to cope with their situation like that fat fetish artist from earlier on this thread though, or if it's just because they want inclusion points from their friends.
No. 2466700
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>>2466671>>2466677I think it’s a millennial tumblr problem. 2010s Tumblr was definitely patient zero for that kind of “inclusive” art
No. 2466705
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Seeing zoomers asking people if they can save their art to their phones is so odd. It's harmless but it's… Your phone. Just save the pic.
No. 2466739
>>2466731Im not that old yet but zoomers ended in 2010.
Youngest zoomer is 14-15
No. 2466839
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>>2466671This image was the 9/11 for all of that, and now they're back to the one
hashtag representation trait per character model.
No. 2466985
>>2466677yeah they do this but to maintain the
valid they say theyre pre-op tifs, impossibly passing tims, or regular hunks with titchop scars drawn on.
No. 2467260
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Watched part of Juby's stream last night and she ranted about Genice again. I clipped it and sped it up to 2x speed because she talks so slow. Basically, this past week she's been documenting all of her receipts against Genice in preparation for a callout on Twitter. She still insists that she's only going to post it if Genice "forces" her to, so it seems like we may be seeing a callout the next time Juby has a BPD spergout. She also mentions a previous time she dealt with a narcissist. According to her, the so-called narcissist shit talked her but Juby kept quiet that time. This happened in 2017. Does anyone know who she's referring to? Anyway, it was funny hearing her rant because literally at the same time, Genice was wrapping up preorders for her artbook. Genice makes her seethe so much but Genice doesn't acknowledge her at all. If you're ever called out, be like Genice nonnies.
No. 2467292
>>2466809Thanks Nona but I'll be turning 37 shortly here.
I just think it's bizarre to ask someone if you can save an image to your HD
No. 2467293
>>2467285it's always like that. the fattest has to be the darkest black and the regular sized and more attractive ones can be slightly lighter shades of brown.
also notice how the skinniest character is always the whitest/caucasian while all the other
poc ranges from stocky to flat out obese and often are drawn with extremely exaggerated features that make them look like grotesque goblins that are borderline racist caricatures. it genuinely amazes me how these people fail to notice how their attempts to be woke accidentally backfires so hard that it circles back into being furiously bigoted kekkk
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>>2466839I already responded to this, but art like this is what makes me appreciative of figurines like this. Yes, all of the characters were modeled to be perfectly conventionally attractive looking, but it's just so much better than the human Mexican mini horse that artist drew to be Rarity.
No. 2467321
>>2467293>>2467285And they make the big dark ones the hairiest too, even though black people are generally LESS hairy than white people and hairy Latinos get that trait from their Mediterranean colonizer blood.
Plus they draw black people with 4c hair on their heads and then straight arm and leg hair.
No. 2467326
>>2467291Ayrt she doesn't talk about Genice every stream, but often enough that I feel like I have to check in once a week and listen to her VODs on 2x speed. She usually repeats the same shit over and over again (ree Genice stole my art, ree she's an evil narcissist, ree I definitely have receipts and will one day post them), so I'm trying to only take notes when she says something new
>>2467304>I eventually stopped tuning in because she would always repeat the same genice tangent it got monotonousKek you're smart nona. She's so repetitive that I sometimes wonder if it's worth it to watch her streams for the faint chance of new milk
No. 2467342
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>>2467314I love the Princess Luna design so much
No. 2467351
>>2467260> She also mentions a previous time she dealt with a narcissist. According to her, the so-called narcissist shit talked her but Juby kept quiet that time.Kekk based nona for tuning into her stream, because i also happened to drop by her stream for like a few second when i saw she was live but left because i was going to sleep soon, so I didn’t know who this narcissist person was when i happened to arrive. I was also wondering if it was genice but your post gave me the context so it wasn’t. I was considering making a post about this yesterday like “omg nonas I just joined juby’s stream again and she is STILL bitching about genice” but wasn’t sure if she was talking about her so I didn’t bother, but it turns out she still talked about genice anyway KEK
This was another thing I’ve wanted to mention, Juby has streams like almost every week and I haven’t seen most of them because the caption she posts them with don’t seem anything out of the ordinary, but im just wondering how many of these streams contain her bitching about genice at least once. I wouldn’t be surprised if she mentions her in every stream
No. 2467532
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>>2466839This is my 'favourite' MLP humanisation. I would not be able to draw this and show this to a black person irl without fear of permanently damaging our relationship beyond repair. There was a tweet by a black person saying that they would rather not be represented than drawn like this but unfortunately I could not find it so have this
terf tumblr post instead.
No. 2467546
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its so weird because its not like cute black pinkies dont exist, theres even cute 200 pound diabeetus pinkies out there. they have so many normal designs of her for possible inspiration, yet just cant resist turning her into an manish orge
No. 2467550
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>>2466839>>2467532why is the art shit too? like is not just the fact that they don't put effort on the way the characters look and just put some random traits together for brownie points, it also seems as if they dont put any effort into their art/skills and i dont mean it in the "haha their art bad my art better" way, i just dont understand why they wouldn't put more effort and detail on what and how they're representing if its so important for them?
I'd accept the fact that its just a hobby for some people and not everyone is a professional but this kind of "artists" are (were?) always arguing with anyone who has more skill than them for not drawing whatever they want
No. 2467634
>>2467532>aftonfamilyvaluesNot the url I'd expect a
terf blog to have, but a pleasant surprise, I suppose kek
No. 2467894
>>2465748That sounds like a healthy idea and what art spaces used to look like before social media, lovely.
>>2465778I’m in the same boat. Creating to create hasn’t existed outside of ‘how can this sell’ mentality and the work ends up weak and it doesn’t sell; the cycle repeats. It makes me draw into myself too and shun social media. I hope you can continue to draw in peace for yourself someday nonna. Godspeed to you as well.
>>2467546You know why but to explain would get the thread off topic. Your examples are cuteand convey her personality compared to her tumblr versions.
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>>2467845peachsiie on twitter! her stuff is really cute
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>>2467532>>2467546>>2468241I like the black pinkie fanarts but my autism makes me seethe over how her family is Amish to the point of stereotypical extremes in the show and yet people always choose to depict her human form as black kek. I guess her curly, poofy hair makes her black-coded in the eyes of these people
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>>2465757Seems to be a growing concern. Artist harassment, especially over minor things out of ignorance, being commonplace, has led to unhealthy paranoia.
Personally, I don't think this type of mentality will change if people continue to use Twitter. It's too ingrained in the site culture.
No. 2468520
>>2468262>>2468435>Lack of line confidence/practice.Hard disagree. and not exclusive to digital artists. I find the kind of artists who always go with whatever the first line they make as being not critical enough of their own work. No one's popping out masterpieces right from the start. Not even professionals:
https://youtu.be/L8UQERIYXww?t=1646Sometimes you just have a better idea for how something should look. Why settle for less?
No. 2468539
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Even though picrel is 3d, it feels like this problem will get worse exponentially after the ghibli trend, too many non-artists who don’t understand anything about the artistic process trying to look cool dunking on other people. Kind of twisted that artists can’t catch a break from both aifags and anti-aifags
No. 2468545
>>2461674I'll add to
>>2461745 's post although I'm late:
This is common with multimedia artists/developers to have multifaceted talents. It's the ultimate ADHD medium. I'm not sure why people don't believe it's impossible. This is why it's better to have other creative outlets alongside your visual art instead of narrowing it down to just one thing, especially during burnout periods.
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Is there an equivalent of danbooru for non animu art? closest i could find is artvee but its only for art in the public domain so it lacks a lot of art from the 20th century.
No. 2468572
>>2468564ntayrt but anon said that image is the
>9/11 for all of thatAka killed those trends, she’s definitely not saying that people are going back to it.
>now they’re back to one hashtag representation trait per character modelIs what she’s saying people are doing now
No. 2468617
>>2468435>>2468589nta but to be fair drawing lineart on a tablet versus actual paper/canvas is a totally different experience. I do both traditional/digital, and on physical paper you still have more control where your line starts and goes because you can actually see the tip of your pen/pencil make contact with the surface.
A screenless tablet requires way more hand/eye coordination and being able to predict how the lines you make on that tablet will appear onscreen. So it’s natural people will require more tries making lines with those.
Even then, I find that preferable to a screen tablet, which was just a weird experience for me. Because you can see the pen tip make contact with the “surface” of the drawing, except there’s glass with touch sensors in between. So imagine you’re drawing like normal, except the lines your pencil makes always look a couple millimeters off from the tip drawing them.
No. 2469125
>>2468956>I'm tempted to just do random letters and numbers like some JP artists.Don't do that. Most westerners think that's a spam bot and not trust you, often including anti-spam programs. And if you want ANY kind of brand/name recognition at any point in the future, you've screwed yourself over. Not to mention if you later decide "abc123" is just your username "on paper" but your going to go by "Anonita's Art Corner" or whatever you better believe some dickhead is gonna swoop in and steal that username and impersonate you to steal your audience, and your real account again just looks like the copy-bot.
Just pick something semi-cute or mundane you'd be fine with if you accidentally got stuck with it. Don't use memes, they'll look ancient within a year - I get so embarrassed when I see artists who go by like "spoopy"
No. 2469212
>>2468475God, this is genuinely how I feel about being an artist online today. If people won't cancel you for drawing a character a shade too light, they will cancel you for "plagiarizing". If that won't happen, they'll dig up that one time you said a slur in 2011 or an estranged friend will leak confidential discord DMs from five years ago and people will attack like sharks smelling blood in the water. I've become so paranoid about this that I want to create a new, completely anonymous account from scratch because I didn't have the best opsec in 2016 due to being much more younger and oblivious to what could happen but then I will lose the community I worked so hard to build around myself.
>>2465757I once saw people vendettaposting about me and that alone sent me spiraling. It's so fucking scary when shit like that actually happens to you because you never know what kind of schizos will latch on to that narrative because I've had an actually dangerous stalker threatening my life once.
No. 2469268
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>>2468475I catch shit all the time for drawing characters white when retards who only read the Wikipedia article headcanon them as black or brown. I literally just ignore it, sometimes muting or blocking the person if they show up more than once. I don't change my art to appease these people, and the kinds of tards who stress about drawing characters sufficiently woke are playing a zero-sum game, because 14-year-old woke scolds can never be appeased, and they often just use their comically diverse headcanons as a means of pretending their chicken scratch is "better" than the art made by people they're jealous of. It's a game you lose the second you choose to play it.
No. 2469299
>>2469222Brujoari OCs only got big because they were originally Jotaro and Kakyoin. Her sense of worldbuilding is very weak and highly reliant on the current fascination with y2k era aesthetics.
>>2469218 is better off looking into making comics or just storytelling in general. She wouldn't have to make a fully fleshed out story imo, but she definitely have to be willing to sperg about her OCs alongside uploading illustrations of them and make that sperging interesting, since art alone won't cut it if she's trying to eventually monetize some aspect of it.
No. 2469497
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i guess the influx of new fans stating the obvious is getting to her
No. 2469548
>>2468593I had a friend that experienced exactly that. She doesn't draw anymore, but holy
shit I love it whenever she does. I think she's super self-conscious about her art being online so she just draws purely for herself. afaik, she hates drawing as a whole, yet magically gets better with time????
I haven't spoken to her in a while.
No. 2469582
>>2469569She's a little cooky but I love her like a sister. But what isn't an artist, if not at least marginally insane.
Wish I had something we could talk about. But when I hear about her from mutual friends, she seems to be doing okay.
No. 2469618
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I need to vent about how upset I am about anatola howard and how she completely gendie'd out. Her art was so unique, detailed, and expressive and while it still is today the fact that there's a level of tif paint all over her art makes me mourn indiscernibly for no reason. I guess seeing gnc women in art get put into this "pseudo man" role makes me fucking miserable because it really does feel like there's no hope for women. Just looking at her social media makes me depressed as fuck.
No. 2469738
>>2469626>homestuckis there a single fanartist for that series that has
not trooned out
No. 2469747
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>>2469618ngl I’ve been expecting it ever since she posted this childhood memory comic in 2022 kek, very typical of artists to troon out and make a comic about their past, like “haha I was in such denial”
No. 2469781
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men's artwork is so shit and uncompelling 99% of the time, holy shit. the amount of male artists works that ive seen and it made me feel some emotions, or i thought "wow thats so beautiful and was obviously done with a lot of love and passion" is like… a dozen or so artists? i was just thinking of this this morning because i saw an artist posting generic girl pinup and it was like, the most unsexy and unsensual thing ive ever seen. boring stiff poses, no squishiness, no flow… ugh. i know women do this sort of thing too but i feel like its way more prevalent with men. they just have such stale boring brains in general. im not even gay but i feel like i can draw way more sensual and sexy women then most moids can
No. 2469833
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does anybody recognize these characters and the name of the artist? i believe the girl was named Alice? The boy maybe was fritz or something, he never wore any pants kek. The artist was a french-canadian guy and i had some of his art bookmarked on twitter but theyve all disappeared.
>>2469781absolutely agree nona. even with stupid beginner oh ceee shit, it seems like women have so much more creativity and passion. 99% men just seem to draw only things they can jack off to. I like to watch those "learning to draw in 30 days!11!" videos, and all the beg women draw like objects or generic "kawaii" cats while every man defaults straight to massive anime boobies + 6 yr old looking moe girls.
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>>2469833Ok I decided to research it myself. Is it Francis and Alice? I found a fanart that led me to them but it looks like the creator deactivated I think. The account was CarlLeCat.
I had the wrong name so sorry if you're seeing this again No. 2469886
>>2469260Unlike other nonnies I don't hate her or her content but I do agree she's got just the type of fans to turn on her and rip her apart because they've made up their mind on what her characters should be while she's clearly still playing around with them. The show is gonna have to set stuff in stone and some portion of her audience won't like it.
>>2469781the male artists I follow mostly paint landscapes
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>>2469876OMG! thank you so so much nonna! I looked around and seems like hes wiped just about everything (twitter, instagram, i think he had a tumblr maybe?), except a bluesky account that he hasnt posted on since January. Honestly, sometimes i caught a weird vibe from him, and figured maybe he got outted as a freak or something lol. He was a decently sized artist and had quite a few viral posts, never seemed like the "mentally ill burn everything" type either.
No. 2470047
>>2469833There's this recent trend on youtube of moid artists trying to replicate the styles of popular Asian artists that draw sugary or whispy generic anime girls and the attempts are usually laughable. They take you through what they observe about that specific artist's style and every artist they use as reference all looks like they pull the same waif looking moe gurl just one artist uses punchy bold colors and lines and another is whispy and painterly but their attempts at copying a piece falls flat. I'm not sure I'd call it studying a masterwork, when they're clearly skipping fundamentals and are focused on drawing pretty girl #600.
>>2469999Because I'm not in any Fandom I never made this distinction. A lot of younger artists I know who have their own stories and characters refer to said characters as 'OCs' as well so I don't think the term is as exclusive as being mostly used in fandom, I'm more likely to see the term 'fancharacter' or, to a lesser degree, 'fan oc'. I don't personally call my characters OCs because it feels a little childish.
No. 2470161
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kinda late but did derpixon troon out? i keep seeing people calling him "she" and constantly correcting others who gender him as male
i thought it was obvious that he was male, plus he spoke for a moment in his Q&A video before
No. 2470189
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>>2470172This is what she looks like now (bottom is before, top is after)
No. 2470575
>>2469887>brujo ari is the only oc artist who made it bigLMAO. Reminds me of that popular Twitter post where people were excitedly saying brujoari is the only artist to ever make their OCs "actually age" when she drew them in stages of adulthood.
It's more that social media has gotten so centralized.
No. 2470600
>>2470559But plain ole characters from a project your working on is fine though right? Like where does the oc start and end?
>>2470596Viziepop is the only one I can think of personally?
No. 2470611
>>2470182I saw the GIF preview she posted on Tumblr, and I'm going to take a guess at what this is before even watching it: this heckin' ghey couple consists of a self-insert TiF rabbit, while the fox thing is voiced by a man. The rabbit talks about trooning out and the fox tells her how ~
valid~ she is and how much he loves being in yaoiz with her.
No. 2470627
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>>2470619You are comparing oranges to apples. Just because i dont like boring generic oc n2451 standing in a white void with 0 story or personality attached to it, it doesnt mean i am against indie comics and pilots. The only people who get offended when someone says they dont like OCs is the oc hoarders who have 5 million boring oc reference sheets they never use for anything besides maybe grifting for fanart in artfight. Artists who do nothing but create white noise oc art and think they can compare themselves to show runners and comic artists who put the effort into creating an universe for their characters to live in are self important hacks who will never amount to anything because they are too lazy to actually put effort into a project since it doesnt give insant dopamine like creating the 58th donut steel.
No. 2470644
>>2470596>i am talking about oc artists who got popular enough with their art that they got picked up by a studioYou keep saying that but she
hasn't been picked up by a established studio, if you look up every person involved- you'll see they don't have much experience in the animation industry or are just coming out of art school. What is the difference between them and whoever Viv hires for Helluva Boss? Ironically one of them has worked on Helluva Boss too. Now I dislike Viv and I don't care about Brujo very much either way, but it comes off like you're either not very aware of these things or you're a bootlicker, or both.
>>2470635So what you think constitutes as successful is if the OC artist has no or minimal hand in the making of their series. Got it.
No. 2470648
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>>2470087>>2470611Update: just watched it, and my predictions were 80% right. The rabbit talked about a dream, not troon shit, but all of my other guesses were spot-on. Rabbit has an obvious TiF voice and a plump little body reminiscent of those stupid poon drawings, while the fox, voiced by a real male of course, is tall and thin like [pick any Tumblr sexyman.] I'm kinda bummed, Anatola used to draw some nice lesbian stuff, but no, turns out she's a spicy straight TiF attracted to males. Lesbians can't have shit. Also, the similarity between these furry characters and the main characters from Maggie's apartment are striking: it's another tall stickman with a doughy womanlet.
No. 2470723
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>>2470627I think that at bare minimum, if you want people to care about your OCs any illustrations you share of them should be them engaged in doing some activity that tells you something about their personality or interests. The old 'Hilda' pinups come to mind, there wasn't much intent behind them other than making sexy calendar art with a fat chick so Hilda doesn't exist much beyond those illustrations. In that sense, she was just some 1950's dude's OC too, but the illustrations are often designed like one-panel comics with something amusing happening which is why anyone still cares about Hilda at all while no one cares about other random pinup girls as characters.
A lot of OC artists just have their characters posed against a white backdrop not doing very much.
No. 2470727
>>2470723This. Thank you. Pisses me off when oc artists do nothing but draw characters no one but them cares or knows anything about and then get angry when fanart of popular characters with developed lore and personalities get more likes and rts.
>>2470725No, she cant animate or write for shit. If she didnt have an unique style she would be your run of the mill literal who gendie oc artist with 3 likes.
No. 2470818
>>2470709There was a nona saying Vivzie was a nepo baby though to discredit her tho, which threw me off. I thought she was a first gen kid of immigrant latinos, so pretty rare for that to be a nepo setup
>>2470727yeah she cant write for shit but production wise she can probably pick up storyboarding pretty fast, her skill was advanced enough for it. Regardless, she sounds insufferable to work with. That indie studio is never taking a chance on another talented marginalized rando ever again
No. 2470910
>>2470865 >keep comparing myself to others that draw these characters like they’re 3d models. How the fuck is that possible? You don't look at a lot of indie comics. Your OCs don't have to look extremely perfect and consistent all the time in order to get a decent following that's willing to give you money. tbh, you can get away with extremely shitty art if the story is compelling enough. Just look at Zoophobia's art kek and that didn't even have that good of a story either, but no doubt contributed to Hazbin's pilot getting made at all (via fans who wanted to work on her next big project) and that pilot getting popular enough that Amazon thought it was worth risking money on turning it into an actual show
>And then there’s me scared of hosting my comic anywhere without having to deal with limitationsWhat kind of limitations are you worried about? If it's the subject matter, then you could honestly get away with posting it on twitter if you want to do short format comics. For long form, comicfury pretty much allows anything that's not shota/loli or "hate speech", but you can get around the latter by hiding your comic from the website's search results and only linking to comic on other platforms to better ensure the right audience sees it. Even if you don't think you can get away with that, and this is only if you're dying to screech unambiguous YNBAW-tier stuff imo, self hosting isn't that hard and can be fairly cheap. If you're talking about limitations wrt the way your comic is formatted, there's a couple of options depending on what exactly you have in mind.
>and/or someone from that discord recognizing me then getting me cancelled.Stop giving a fuck. If dickishly can still get a steady stream of commissions in spite of her brand being le edgy guro/loli/rape/etc artist, then you can survive some literal whos trying to cancel you for retarded discord drama. Focus on drawing good and writing good, people are extremely forgiving if they like your shit. People have been trying to cancel Vivzie for years and the public opinion of her only really changed when people stopped liking season 2 of Helluva Boss kek
No. 2471004
>>2470966A lot of luck is involved. You can try to game the algorithm but there aren't guarantees. Of what can be controlled:
>Is your art appealing?>Are your characters visually appealing?>Is your concept appealing and current?I bring up the latter because its the one controllable thing I have seen a lot of artists mess up on and get hung up on. Audiences can get tired of specific concepts/settings/art styles but artists will continue pushing that well after the audience has moved on and wonder why no one cares. Sometimes an artist will put something out when the timing is just perfect and there's an appetite for it and they will get attention despite their offering not actually being that good just because they're the only one/the first one delivering what the market wants. Sometimes an artist has something that's good quality but in an oversaturated and exhausted market.
No. 2471016
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>>2469887>brujo ariKEK she's only famous because her main "oc" is a bastardized version of a very popular jjba character
No. 2471024
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>>2471016reminds me of this lol
No. 2471037
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I’d like to hear your speculation on webcomic abandonment, more specifically what’s different about the people who actually have the followthrough to finish their stories. The few comics I’ve followed over the past 15 years that manage to do extended stories and complete them have authors that feel like a different breed. Less constant online presence and less apparent emotional volatility. It comes off like “functional competent adult” and “webcomic artist” are a Venn diagram without much overlap, but those artists tend to occupy what overlap is there.
No. 2471040
Anyone here who knows a way to get cash for your art without your name showing up for your clients, i don't wanna get doxxed by using something like paypal especially since i still live with my parents and don't wanna endanger them (i'm a neet), and also because i live in a third world shithole and theres violent males everywhere. This is the only thing setting me back from starting and turning it into a full time thing.
>>2470087She's a tif??? The bunnies voice was extremely clockable but i just thought the artist was a normal girl who liked to draw cute gay furries, it's a shame really, she is an extremely good artist and i love what she does.
No. 2471050
>>2471037The finishers
>Are writers first, or have stronger writing skills than art at least initially>Have a team, and not just one other person they casually shoot the shit with>Actually plan the arcs, tend to have consistent chapter lengths with one longer chapter either at the beginning or middle >Have a board/forum background, have ran a game from start to finishThe Unfinishers
>Regularly write into walls, and has to asspull out of them>Very simplistic hooks, whole comic gimmicks that should be very minor side characters at best (What if a squirrel liked waffles and shot sparkles out its ass after eating them!)>Usually in art school, gets busy upon graduating; has grown too much as a person to enjoy grafting new art style onto old writing/art style>>2471041Ayrt you're not wrong, I'm saying that she's always asking the audience before making more changes to her characters, (making Kate tubby and TIF out at 40 instead of as a teen.) because turning Kakyoin into Kate at their behest catapulted her to efame.
No. 2471052
>>2471037Most comics don't make money. A lot of comics get started when the artist is still in highschool/college and still has a lot of free time. Then they hit the adult world and need to actually make money so they lose a lot of that free time because they are working day jobs. The time off work can't all be spent on the comic, they have chores to attend to and family and friends they want to spend time with. I've seen it over and over again. Comics are simply too time consuming to be able to produce consistently in the small amount of free time left over. Most webcomic artists quit because they have better things to do than to work on a comic that makes no money and doesn't even get that many views. And yeah a lot of them are emotionally unstable too.
The artists that can work on something for a decades plus are a rare breed with some combination of the following traits
>financially successful off the comic alone>independently wealthy or don't need to work otherwise>live in some 3d world shithole where American money goes really far>single and comfortable living in poverty>have simple artstyles so they can produce content extremely quicklyRelationships and children are killers. Most people will want to spend time with their bf/gf/spouse/children and will value that over making a webcomic.
No. 2471069
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>>2471048>They are not your OCs, they are not children, they do not talk or behave like a quirky cartoon kid or the cringe fingergun animated coolguy you're always trying to emulate.They literally are her OCs, though? The way you wrote this makes it sound like you're talking about RPF or some other 3DPD. It's a cartoon fox and rabbit, one of which is voiced by an obvious female.
Have anons here seriously gotten so schizo that they shame women just for
imagining a fictional man who doesn't act as depraved and evil an an actual man does? As long as you acknowledge that it's unrealistic, what is the harm in that? Do you just expect straight women to never draw or write about the sex they feel attracted to?
No. 2471372
>>2471072Vgen. Do not reply to my post bitching about how you can't get a code. Figure it out. Ask people.
>>2471354>>2471048You sound so deranged.
No. 2471410
>>2471395>>2471403What are you even on about? Every time someone itt talks about vgen there are anons complaining they can't get an invite code because you can only get them through giveaways or by asking people that already have one.
>>2471394And that's why the anti-fujo threads were made, go there.
No. 2471412
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You guys can't help yourself from getting offended by anything can you? Time to back away from your screens anons. First anon was actually making a good point but you had to make it about muh fujos instead the trend of TIFs never interacting with gay men and so writing them like retarded women.
No. 2471424
>>2471420AYRT, I know and have no issue with that, I'd rather read about a non-realistic idealised moid than a skid marked stinky realistic moid. To me, the way TIFs write gay men is incredibly vapid like most things they write. At best they're basically women, but typically the characters will revolve around how gay and faggoty they are. It's not a criticism of fujos, it's a criticism of gendies (that's how I read itat least)- there's no need to chimp out ffs.
>>2471423Not every gay furry oc is made by a fujo.
No. 2471426
>>2471420Why are you so defensive of an honest criticism? It's true, they have no social interaction with real gay people and base their totes gay homo faggot tramp stamp tattoo charas off of online fandom cringe. The artist above had a really cute and charming style and
still made the animation end in brainrot.
No. 2471427
>>2471412Kek how was it a good point? "Blah blah stupid women make men out to be more relatable than they are" is nothing and just one step removed from fujos are
problematic because they fetishize gay people.
>>2471419It's a bit confusing but you just need to figure out how to post there and then you can adjust privacy settings. You can give hints to the passwords if you want your followers to see it, you can limit visibility to followers or lists and you can set a timer.
No. 2471429
>>2471424>they're basically womenExactly. They self-insert as a man because being a woman is gwoss yucky wucky and doesn't get the kweerio points. It's literally just straight with extra steps. It isn't about making male characters they're attracted to, it's about making themselves into some cringe amalgamation of a kawaiitumblrtwink.
>>2471427This entire discussion has revolved specifically around fujoshit, you're the one getting offended that we are undermining your precious yaois.
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>>2471073>>2471179I think it requires your real name to be entered for your business info on business accounts, but your Invoicing Business Name should still override your real name entered. Just make sure all the other important stuff is set not to appear on invoices, and double-check the preview.
I had seen a Twitter thread about it.
No. 2471541
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I use ibispaint for art and when i use lasso tool to fill colors, the edges look pixelated. I tried bigger canvas size but it didn't help. Is there any way to fix this?
No. 2471629
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>>2471468It is, he finished it a year or two ago and is now on another story (picrel). One of the very few authors out there who doesn’t try to stereotypically feminize fantasy women.
No. 2471737
>>2471016Offtopic but I always found it weird how gendies make anime characters different races when most of them are already asian and minorites. If you want to make woke art of them, wouldn't it make more sense to just draw them with more stereotypically asian racial traits instead of making the character a completely different culture?
Do twitter sjw's just think asian's are white or something, do they think that the Japanese are honorary aryans and don't count lol?
It doesn't even bother me or anything, I just find it strange.
No. 2471824
>>2471820I 100% agree with everything you said
But I just wanna add that some people may have skewed definitions of the term oc because iirc it originated from people making their own character based on an established franchise, like sonic or homestuck. I don’t know what people called their purely original characters that weren’t attached to some franchise before this. Maybe they were also called ocs and im wrong about this, so ignore me
No. 2471877
>>2468617>>2468621op griper here,
I use a screenless tablet and make use of the stabilizer. I do undo lines like maybe a maximum of 3 times, but I think it lays deeper than this. I use the wacom intuos small (tiny person with small desk space) and I've been told the ONLY good thing about my art is the linework. I legitimately think it is 100% lack of control. They probably don't do line practices ever and went straight to drawing animu.
No. 2471886
>>2471820I legitimately didn't know people had… different definitions of these things. "Fandom OC" just felt like people using the word "discourse" incorrectly to suggest it means purely antagonizing people for the sake of it rather than the actual given definition that is confused with
discord.
No. 2472016
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I'm gonna keep it a buck, I hate control freak clients. I respect the vision but some days I'm tired of going back and forth and making changes because the client had to be autist about it. I had to put off a comm because one wanted their character to be thicker, add in the tail, make sure the colors are accurate. It was maddening. I'm starting feel a sense of relief as ai takes these clients away from me so I don't have to deal with their bullshit again. I love money but I love my sanity even more.
No. 2472110
>>2472016I had a client that threatened to take me to court when I was 18 over the way a hyena "gnoll" character's cock was angled. My tos said "I will edit the sketch until you are happy with it" and he took advantage of my ignorant ass to make me work on that picture for 3 years. 12$ sketch commission he would ask me every year to edit because it was in my contract.
He reported me to Paypal and I GUESS they nuked him from orbit. My account's still up and everything lol
No. 2472124
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Aynone else struggles a shit ton with uneven-ness? it drives me fucking nuts, most of the time i end up flipping the canvas with every single line i make.
No. 2472145
>>2472124I snort guidelines like there is no tomorrow.
>>2472139>>2472140I was so scared and so fucking retarded. Holy
shit. I came across the sketch the other day too.
12 USD COMMISSION. No. 2472228
>>2472175I was 18 so I was lowballing everyone hoping for them to be gracious enough to toss me extra peanuts for a job well done. (worked most times) I'm not doing that shit unless it's a mugshot sketch, and even then I might charge double that due to being far better nowadays.
>>2472189Definitely was the case. And I've experienced it far more in recent years. Granted, I just laugh and block them. I don't do NSFW these days.
No. 2472234
>>2472016>I respect the vision I almost don't anymore. I think I might offer a cheaper tier for 0 revision sketches. Just give me your idea in 2-3 sentences, and I'll do it to the best of my ability and what you get is what you get.
Everything seems so watered down if I let the commissioner have too much control.
>>2472110Literal horror story.
No. 2472284
>>2472016>I'm gonna keep it a buck, I hate control freak clients. I respect the vision but some days I'm tired of going back and forth and making changes because the client had to be autist about it. My autist friend was like that when she asked me to do edits for her. Literally asking me to change the opacity of something back and forth by 1-2% to see which is better. Every tiny detail took ages because she couldn't decide on anything! After finally being 100% happy she'd come back a day later and ask for at least 1 change to be reverted, because that 1% change really was it after all..! She has since begun to use very specific references like "take the exact hair colors from this fanart, skin color from this other one, but use the hair style and eye colors from this third fanart…" for
every single feature when she commissions artists (not me). I always wonder if the poor artist knows that is by far the easiest and most efficient way to deal with her requests and they're lucky she just sends them 50 references instead of making them do 50 changes back and forth for hours.
No. 2472376
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Just a little bit of salt, I'm supremely jealous of what these artists I follow on twitter have, cute simple yaoi ocs they came up with as a team. It sounds fun to me to have ocs with a best friend.
No. 2472412
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>Look up tutorials for crafts
>find this decent artist but she's using some ASMR mic and it feels like she's fucking spitting all over my ears
>youtube auto-captions are inaccurate
I will take an incoherent thick accent over an ASMR voice any time of the day.
No. 2472457
>>2472455I get you
nonny. I have been thinking about dropping from college to focus on art. I hate being a poorfag i wish i could be a nepo baby or have rich supportive parents. Art is the only thing i care about and have a genuine interest in so having to waste time studying for retarded shit idgaf about is genuinely crushing.
No. 2472759
>>2472735Hate to ask this like a retarded newfag kek, but did you really improve? How long did it take to see visible proof of it? Do you still feel like you're on your way to drawing the way you want to, even though you don't have too much time to practice?
It feels like I'll never stop being busy and it sucks because I want to grind. Having so little time makes me so afraid of never improving, I get scared or frustrated and end up not even doing the 20-30 min of practice.
No. 2472773
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>>2472758>>2472567AYRT It's just the basic ones like picrel. Where you draw a line and then draw on top of it without going off the original ten or so times to build up muscle memory. I'm using superani's book by Peter Han and there's only basic instructions that are really bare bones so I worry I'm not getting it right. It could also be like
nonnie said I just haven't been doing it long enough to see tangible results. I've done other exercises and studies in fundies before so I'm just worried that since my mind isn't really engaged that I'm not "getting it". Like I said before I'm probably just overthinking it. I look up the drawabox ones though to see if there's something I'm missing
No. 2472976
>>2472841As I said my wrist is just sitting on the paper, my shoulder & elbow are directing the stroke.
If by large you mean those ones used in art classes that're like 24"x36" then no. I'm using standard 9"x12" sketchbooks. I do have a few unfinished 24"x36" ones kicking around if you think that would help?
No. 2473070
>>2472760I wish I could do this too, but I already have my own characters I focus on, and wouldn't be able to match another's energy. I'm a selfish artist, I never draw fanart either.
It's a little lonely being your own audience, but someone has to do it. You are the only person who can bring your story to life nonas.
No. 2473095
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Is there any good websites where i can find references of skinny moids? Pinterest only gives me photos and realistic models of roided freaks
No. 2473096
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>>2473095the /g/ ideal male bodies thread
No. 2473135
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>>2473125Great minds think alike, nona
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>>2473095kpop idols
it helps if you know certain names for more results, like searching "[male idol name] shirtless" on google
No. 2473314
>>2473306i spent ~15 years drawing with basic tablets on a tiny laptop and i was never able to adjust to using them with a larger monitor once i got a proper PC, so i was hoping ipad + procreate might feel more comfortable. i think it's partially buyer's regret i'm dealing with as well - i just feel like i'm wasting money and my dumbass brain can't make any of it work. hopefully if i keep using it, i can adjust enough to start sketching at least!
i have CSP on my PC but it doesn't seem like the serial number works on the ipad version/the ipad version is quite different and runs off a subscription service? ugh
No. 2473345
>>2472865Thank you for replying, nona. I'm an autist about perfecting things before "moving on" to the next thing I want to do, so that is probably holding me back as well. I will try new things during practice like you said. I think I'll also try looking at different artists to investigate their techniques.
Good luck to you, too, you sound like you are well on your way to success, if you aren't there already ♥
No. 2473368
>>2473344thank you nona! it helps to just have a place to talk about it with people who understand tbh. i'll keep at it!
>>2473351SAI really is so good, really wish it was available on ipad but completely understandable why it isn't since it's one guy making the thing.
No. 2473530
>>2472493Not sure how old you are but I’m an older millennial and during my college years a lot of students still lived at home and after graduating as well. A lot of 20-25 year olds were staying home, so it doesn’t surprise me it has increased. There’s nothing to be ashamed about. One saves money and, depending on one’s parents, it’s better than a roommate.
>>2473306What key features does Procreate lack? I don’t use CSP but I’ve read it was similar to SAI. I went the Photoshop to Procreate route. I always felt jealous of CSP/SAI brush effects but I thought Photoshop and Procreate had caught up or exceeded by now.
No. 2473824
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>webcomic 1st chapter vs latest chapter
Damn, webcomics take so much out of artists.
I always figured I can stylistically simplify backgrounds to ease the workload, but I may be underestimating how much work that still is with how many webcomic/webtoon artists, even skilled ones, end up just screenshotting and pasting 3d models with no flair.
No. 2473990
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>>2473713Poipiku if you don't mind censoring it. They allow R-18 art, it just has to be appropriately tagged and published under 'R-18' and you have to censor genitals
No. 2474029
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Any nonnies tried making vtuber models and rigging? i just got my first commission for a model with rigging and i am very excited about it! its a commission by a close friend whose a vtuber, and i am liking the process so much i am hoping i can get more commissions in the future.
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>>2474009No, that's mecchi. Picrel is from a recent Devil's Candy chapter, tsulala is still drawing (even traditionally inking) her backgrounds. It's kind of insane how much she's able to do. The original first Devil's Candy chapter was made for a competition within two weeks. I wonder how artists like that can manage to avoid wrist injuries
No. 2474078
>>2474037NAYRT but same here, I have been posting on poipiku with restricted, followers-only account so it doesn't get snipped right away, I and my Japanese mutuals don't bother to censor as much either.
And their yaoi is more fucked up than mine These TOS are just for formality.
No. 2474094
>>2474029That's really cool,
nonny! I always thought that sort of thing would be fun to do, but I don't even know where to start to learn those skills kek. I'm not sure what terms I would try searching, honestly.
I hope this goes well for you and you get many more commissions in the future!
No. 2474095
>>2474037That's more of a formality due to japanese laws, Pixiv has that rule as well (and it's one of the reasons of why censor brushes are so popular in csp kek).
Whenever they enforce it or not is another thing, on Pixiv I had some art auto-privated until I resubmit it with censor, meanwhile others are just fine. And the censor itselves can be as small/stupid as you want as long the dick/vulva isn't 100% visible, just a small line at their botton works, so yeah just the usual formality, nothing new here.
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thoughts on frapposting?
No. 2474120
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>>2474108Literal nobody with over 100k followers posting relatable slop comics? I hope I never have to see an anon bitch about how hetshit isn't popular these days when any low effort posts like this can get crazy likes.
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>it was causing concern about promotion of russian imagery which is understandably upsetting to my ukrainian followers
Kek?
No. 2474398
>>2474108Only horny moids ever send me her art. It's been their weird gotcha of "see, you're not sincere on the things you say about your sexuality because SHE says other things and-" so her art has been inheremtly tained. Plus I remember she was really retarded about one of her asexual (???) friends and tried projecting her sexuality onto them because of her terminal illness making it impossible to empathize.
0/10 Wouldn't miss her if she DFE
No. 2474480
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>>2474448It's either tranny fixation or peddling lesbian preferences in my experience. I'd prefer we stay on topic regardless of the thread, but it always circles back to one of those. Most consist and faithful thing in my life thus far kek
Anyways.
I really am frustrated that my extended family caught wind of something I hand painted with acrylics for my mom, and instantly start floodijg with requests. Morons can't even sned me a Happy Birthday text but want me to shill out FREE PAINTINGS for everyone. Even worse is my mom guilt tripping me to do so because Muh Family. I personally prefer to
charge them like I do with digital art commissions, especially since physical media is more costly than digital art? But I am not allowed to (again the guilt tripping) and I can't just ignore them like when we were living on opposite sides of the country.
These guys are now sending me pics and vids of cute dogs to try and entice me into liking them more so I'd yeild. It's insane how shallow this is. And the kicker? My grip on acrylics is absolutely pitiful. I'm a beginner. They are deluding theirselves.
No. 2474485
>>2474480i hope this isnt yours,
nonny…
No. 2474501
>>2474480how close are you to this extended family, what's their job? normies can be this dense when they find out you do arts but you can explain to them that it's
your profession, ask them if they'd do their job for your entire family for free of charge.
No. 2474597
>>2474480I swear, the only people who don't get nitpicked on this schizo site are goldstar lesbians who are strictly vanilla and have never enjoyed anything made by or marketed toward moids in their whole lives. A lesbian expresses that she enjoys boobs? Scrotefoiled. A woman says that she's bisexual? Called a lying hettie bettie. A woman enjoys yaoi? Accused of porn addiction. A woman shows heterosexual attraction toward some celebrity guy? Gets called a pickme. A lesbian says she's not a gold star? She's a bisexual whore. A former TiF peaks after detransitioning? Nope, she's still a TiF. A woman likes something targeted toward men? Troonfoiled. A woman likes anime or lolita? She must be a pedophile. A woman likes guys who unconventional attractive? She's a pickme brainwashed by UMPO.
Women are never going to rise up against moids like we need to if we keep acting like crabs in a bucket.
No. 2474606
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>>2474597Nah women should say what they feel and think. If other women are too thin-skinned for that, they can be henpecked by trannies on reddit into forced kindness
No. 2474616
>>2473771>Paheal or .xxx/.us?It was XXX, Paheal has disabled sign ups so I'm just going to go with the other anon's suggestion.
>>2473990Thank you,
nonnie! Will definitely look into this!
No. 2474900
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So, everyone okay with these
>>2460168 >>2460424 being included next thread?
No. 2474919
>>2474597Stop playing the
victim and woman up. Anons on here being so thin skinned is fucking hilarioys like do you know where you are?
No. 2475171
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>she/they troon flag
>obvious moid art and behavior
Why does this tim even try to push this retarded larp when he clearly wants to be the moids here kek
No. 2475190
>>2474900Just include them. Anons can make the next op if they want to take them out.
>>2474956Troonfoiling is against the rules if it's scrotefoiling or transvestigation, anon did not commit either crime. There has been discussion in this thread about the differences between tif and tim art, it's a
valid topic.
Stop whining about what anons are nitpicking or complaining about, you are literally in the artist salt thread. Post your own salt already.
No. 2475463
>>2474485ayrt LMAO NO IT ISN'T. I could do a recreation with some tweaks on a smaller scale. Just was aiming to make someone laugh with my misery.
>>2474597ayrt I have no idea how any of this relates to my post. I hope I didn't come across as nitpicking, just was stating some common reoccurring trends on the site. If someone wants to peddle pro-lesbian media then go for it. I'm not a fan, personally (I like
fictional men), but I wouldn't stop them. I'd just ignore and strongarm my preferred topic change where necessary.
No. 2475544
I have a personal art cow, a mutual, who I'm dying to cut off if it weren't for the fact she's a schizo TIF who would go ballistic and make a nothingburger callout if I ever dared (I befriended her years before this troonery came to light). We're in the same RPF fandom; but while everyone else makes cutesy, sometimes sexual but generally respectful art, this woman shits out vile AU fetish slop under the guise of 'muh kink positivity'. I'm talking furry, robot, insect, feeder stuff, etc. She takes real men with dicks and balls and draws them with woman's breasts on their chest, getting pissy when we continue referring to these living, breathing men(!) by he/him instead of she/her. To top it all off, she's constantly running to me crying about how she feels as if no one likes her art (they don't) before seething that she refuses to tone down her sex positivity (sure, Jan) and art style (she refuses to learn fundamentals). Nonas, how would you advise me to get this thing to fuck off without activating the nuclear codes AND without losing my other, normal mutuals?
No. 2475987
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>NO HOW DARE YOU FIND MY UGLY COOMSHIT ART UGLY NO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH INTERNET CULTURE I MUST VICTIMIZE MYSELF
Deserved.
No. 2476012
>>2475987Is this person retarded? obviously they wont eat her mother. Its like saying kys on twitter. she clearly wants muh
victim asspats. Fuck this overrated trash the people on the right are based
No. 2476015
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>>2476005At least that drawing takes more time than this narcissistic skank. Does this have soul? Really? Look at this huge watermark thinking someone is going to reupload her work for likes
No. 2476044
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I keep studying anatomy and redrawing various poses from ancient paintings almost every day but will it actually help me to improve my art skill? My drawings still look bad when i try to draw from imagination
No. 2476070
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>>2476066Tbh I've seen some artists who are good at using ibispaint
No. 2476075
>>2476044You gotta break things down into basic shapes and try redrawing referenced poses from new angles. Also use Posemaniacs to help with understanding the 3D. Doing more practices that rely heavily on memory recollection helps. Things like Egg-a-Zyoutatsu's Atarichan Drawer aim to do exactly that. (might need some sort of flash player emulation add-on for yohr browser)
Hope this helps, nona!
No. 2476076
>>2476044give it time, try to imagine if every day you draw from reference your skill is at x level and improves by 2 points, so if after every day you check you'll only see that from before you've improved by 2 points, but if you check after a week you'll see that you've improved much more like x+14, even more after a month like x+60, it's a retarded analogy but i'm trying to say you won't see an improvement if you compare yourself to yourself the day before, see a difference after a month, just look at your art from when you were a child, it seems obvious that you'd be better at art as an adult but some people stay at a toddler's skill for their entire lives, if you're putting in an effort, you'll improve no matter what.
No. 2476105
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>>2476070thats true, but that person is using a drawing ipad, also ibispaint fucks you over by crashing canvases over 1000x1000 which is why many of the drawings look low quality. I bet that person using ibispaint would draw much better using clip studio.
No. 2476136
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>>2476066Ibis paint is unironically good, a lot of zoomies and beginners use it but that's because it's free. I've seen beautiful art created in the platform.
No. 2476138
>>2476128samefag I also would recommend
>gaysexpositions.guide if you're a rank-ass fujo like me and that's up your alley.
No. 2476150
I was typing out my response and didn't see
>>2476105, yeah ibis is hindered by its lag problem
No. 2476244
>>2475987>>2476012The furry artist is a lazy retard with low effort coomer slop art but why are you people unironically egging on the right comments? That’s extremely unhinged and it was never funny or amusing for someone to devolve into 4chan tier meltdowns. If this furry artist is female then I care even less. You have literal moids posting lolicon art and rape who never get these types of threats. For the record, I’d be okay with those moids getting the threats on the right kek
>>2476020What is their url? At least this artist doesn’t draw clearly young girls unless im mistaken. It just seems like the generic animu female body type to me
No. 2476261
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>>2476155I would stick to the perpetual license of clip studio paint on desktop, which is the 1.0 one. It’s a one time payment for starters, all their new versions from 1.1 to 4.0 are subscription based.
Ive also heard stories of people with the subscription models not having access to the program because they didn’t have any wifi… could anyone confirm on how the new versions work?
This is why I detest these programs with “fake” permanent licenses. You can’t really keep them forever.
No. 2476273
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>>24762612/2
I saw this post of clip studio being on sale for an upgrade which interested me, until I found out I had to purchase all the old versions before version 3 apparently. And those were not for sale and would’ve cost me over $100 for all. Then I saw this person’s posts warning people of additional bullshit that comes with the new versions.
Clip studio 1.0 aka the real perpetual license will always be the best version to me because it can run offline perfectly well. The weird limitations that the new versions have don’t seem worth it at all to me.
No. 2476277
>>2476272Thanks nona. Looking at what the rest of their art looks like yeah I’m like 90% sure this is a girl, and the art is actually so tame. I visited the original tiktok whining about how this wasn’t fair and so many comments from seething and jealous zoomers talking about “they sexualize their oc so much”, I just have to roll my eyes at this. Poor kids don’t know what real sexualization looks like from the endless sea of moids who draw coomer/pedo slop, if they actually stepped outside of their tiktok/ibis paint hugbox they’d faint kek.
I get that they’re seething over lazy furry slop ranking higher than the kpop drawing but if you looked at what usually ranks high in ibis paint, you’d see that it’s literally all amateur anime art which showcases the average age group of ibis paint users. Yeah it’s pretentious to say, but it’s nothing out of the ordinary for it. If anything I wish they’d redirect their anger at their fellow peers for voting for lazy amateur art and having shit taste kek, not the artist herself
No. 2476279
>>2476275No, most people don’t know where to look for piracy these days in general, not just for clip studio. It’s becoming a lost art with new generations, and since older generations don’t know how to either I think it’s just a certain group of people left. It reminds me of how kids these days are become less tech savvy. Millennials and older gen z might be the last generations to know how to use a computer.
Even I don’t really know where to look for the latest cracked versions of clip studio. Too many scams and fake pages out there
No. 2476283
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>>2476272>view one of the images >check commentsJesus Christ kek. I just checked the most popular artwork of the year on their website, and that only has 497 comments for the record
No. 2476292
>>2476281That seems like the same website someone else shared when I asked for a new clip studio version. I do recall making an account but I think I found it weirdly complicated, and when I download a file I got a malware virus. I deleted it off my pc though.
This is for portable versions, correct? I did play around with the file I downloaded but ultimately went back to my genuine 1.0 version because all the new brushes and assets downloaded from the store wouldn’t automatically be added to the cracked version. I’d have to haul all my custom brushes and settings for me to truly move to the cracked version, maybe I should tbh
No. 2476309
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>>2476211Yeah, it reminds me of being on Colors! 3D when I was younger and how I would occasionally see posts bitching about how much MLP shit was in the top ranked. This was a cheap 3DS art application so the majority of users were kids and stunted adults, so of course shit like mlp and cartoony-low effort styles were gonna have more appeal than your hyper-realistic landscape that took 9 hours to make kek
No. 2476344
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What the hell kind of "groundbreaking stuff" is an AI artist even doing according to Gurney?
No. 2476423
>>2476413samefag I bought 1.0 and upgrade to 4.0? I don't know if there was something wrong with my copy (had to contact them because some wild glitch happened where my friend and I shared the same 1.0 license and she didn't but I did- tl;dr they gave me a free copy of 1.0 after some haggling) Double checked 4.0 by loading it up ising the coiled P .exe file of Clip Studio
Paint on airplane mode and the program came up just fine.
I'm more than positive that the user you screencapped is fear mongering.
No. 2476446
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>>2476441This is very strange, but seems like an easy fix? Maybe I'm coping. My internet has never been out for half a month? I don't know if Japanese companies function like western ones do (where they intentionally try to screw over customers), so I don't think they'll instantly disable a license if they get tired of things. At worst they'll say "our customer service no longer supports this version" if you ask a question, but this is wishful thinking. Is a bit scary? But I dunno; I'm perpetually online so this isn't an issue for me.
No. 2476475
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>>2476446ayrt, yeah 15 days honestly isn't that bad compared to what it was at 2.0, but I still think the features 2.0+ offer are kind of ass and very much NOT worth the cost of upgrading, at least not from the EX version of 1.0 I have. Even upgrading to 2.0 EX is 60 bucks and for what? Making 3d models easier to fuck around with? I don't even use those.
No. 2476478
>>24764752.0? Probably not worth it no. I don't know how I was able to jump from 1.0 to
4.0, but it does have more features I was personally more interested in. It's all a matter of what you want to do and whether updating includes such things.
No. 2476602
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>>2476574Its not cute at all. Its generic furry coomshit. there are tens of thousands of artists on tumblr and twitter with this EXACT same copy and paste, soulless npc artstyle.
>>2476475 258 USD KEKKKKKKKK who is buying this
No. 2476607
>>2476244They dont truly mean those comments, But the OP of those drawings is a narcissistic prick who gets offended whenever someone criticizes their low quality overrated drawings and whats to live in a hugbox. If they
actually doxed her and
actually ate her parents thats different.
No. 2476684
>>2476660I guess. It is probably automatic for the most part, as I rarely use Clip Studio, unless I'm yanking brushes from their shop for free. If I'm streaminf and am on Clip Studio Paint, it just logged in at some point in the background.
I just don't see it as a problem readily since I do have SAI as a backup IF NEEDED, but I'm pretty satisfied atm.
>>2476593The align tool apparently got an upgrade. I'm more interested in the way textures are snapping with rulers so that I can make tiles for buildings and windows and whatnot in a way that isn't tedious and discouraging lol
No. 2476762
>>2476602it's 'cute' because they're probably a 13 y/o autist. if i find out the artist is 20 i'll change my mind. it's just a teen copying other anime inspired and chibi art they see online…if they keep with it, they'll hopefully develop a more appealing style.
on the same note, styles generally aren't unique. there will always be thousands of artists whose art looks the exact same as yours lol. that's not inherently a bad thing. still retarded to harass some tween online because their cringy art is more popular than someone who does realism. i don't see the point in getting this worked over relatively tame art when there are moids who make 6 figures drawing the most disgusting coom shit.
No. 2476852
>>2476762She's says she's a minor and looking at her twitter makes me think she's a 15 or 16 year old. I don't like her art but it's really whatever, I'm sure it's annoying to see constantly in the ranks but it's kittydog tier bland slop. The main take away from this is that whoever is voting has shit taste and also some (probably also underage) artists are emotionally immature and lash out when they don't get their way. Everyone involved is a retard.
Anyways, thread's about to lock so
>>2476846 No. 2477032
>>2476022It works for some image agregation sites like zerochan and dabooru, those sites can thrive because technically nowhere the artist said the drawing can't be reposted, and since its in fair use/no comercial, people can upload it there with no probems.
But if they write "No repost allowed" in the art, the image won't be allowed due to breaking the "law" (or if it's accepted, anyone can report it and must be taken down).
No. 2477036
NEW THREAD
>>>/ot/2476846since anon hid it at the bottom of a reply