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Discuss art and related topics such as:
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon

Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454
https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2
>where to find art
https://www.wikiart.org/es
https://artvee.com/
>other useful sites
https://film-grab.com/
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
https://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheel
https://freephotomuscle.com/
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili

Frequently Asked Questions
>Where can I download brushes and CSP assets?
Resources such as /dbag/ are easy to find online.
>How do I schedule my art?
Professional artist's schedules are easy to find online, however these may be unsustainable long term and it might be better to use them for references for you to build your own rather than attempting to follow them to a T.
>Is drawing furry or porn profitable? Will it give me clout?
It can be, but the market is incredibly saturated and coomers and furries already have artists they want to commission. You will be competing against thousands of people, consider what makes you stand out and if you really want to sink time and effort into something you may not enjoy even a little.
>Questions regarding AI
Both the AI thread in /m/ or the AI Debate thread might be more suitable.
>What is this style called/who is this artist?
Use reverse image search (yandex, tineye, etc.) or the Help Me Find thread.
>What are your thoughts on…?
Look through older artist salts or give context.

>Painting: The Lady of Shalott by John William Waterhouse (1888)

No. 2477099

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nonna i'm deeply jealous of someone in the fandom i'm it. said person joined the fandom way later than me but she gained so much traction in such a short time. her drawing skill isn't even that good either, her anatomy is all fucked up. the subject matters in her art is also not interesting (pretty girls standing in colored backgrounds) but people seem to lap that shit up. the only "good" thing about her art is the color, which she admitted is just filter abuse. she can't even bother to choose her own colors goddammit. i know obsessing about this is stupid but i can't stop thinking about it. what should i do???

No. 2477139

>>2477099
Ideally, ignore her. But otherwise, do you really care about the attention of people with such shit taste? The kind who’ll follow a crappy artist as long as she draws cute girls? Twitter popularity is total bs and there was a time where destinytomoon could easily get 20k(probably still could if she ever came back kek), the bad artists who get popular are just a variation of her but with waifus.

Also, focus on improving your own art, developing any personal projects you have in mind, and growing an audience who appreciates your art and skill. It’ll be slower instead of providing instant social media dopamine, but in the end it’s more satisfying than an audience gained through low-quality waifu art.

No. 2477183

>>2477099
mute her for your own sake

No. 2477243

>>2477099
Skinwalk her. Redraw her posts in ways that are far more interesting (cute girls in front of colored backgrounds? change the angle and make it more dynamic and shift the colors around a pinch). Don't actually do this because you'll instantly be labeled as public enemy number one. But if you're feeling EXTRA petty, then…
Someone did that to me and was basically heralded as a fantastic artist and suffered no consequences. Their art wasn't better than mine by much? They just had a massive userbase. I can't shake them for some reason, and even my own friends send me their art in DMs kek

No. 2477248

Is shading and color theory way easier to learn than anatomy?

No. 2477249

>>2477243
I have a skin walker who decided to draw the same subjects and be on every platform I am. Everywhere I am she is and she decided to make friends with artists I admire. I'm so sick of running into her and talking to her now. I muted her but we're in the same fandom. I don't have the same support system she has. I'm fucking tired.

No. 2477260

How do you build a community of mostly non-artists who will pay you. I'm sick of other artists who are broke troons and genderqueers following me. They're in the same boat just trying to promote and never retweet or support others unless they have clout. everyone says to network but it's such fake bullshit i can never stand it for more than a week.

No. 2477271

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How do you study anatomy without going crazy? My brain is frying and and i keep forgetting the old information that i gained from studies no matter how much I'm practicing

No. 2477303

>>2477249
Oh god. I cannot even imagine having a skin walker at my grown age. I don’t even know what I’d do. That’s always a weird situation especially if they are younger. How would one even avoid this sort of thing?

No. 2477304

>>2477260
You have to draw normie, “marketable” shit. Maybe draw people that look like irl people

No. 2477324

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>>2477260
I'm planning to infiltrate the spiritual people, they have a lot of money. I see them supporting all sorts of stuff. Like there's these two youtubers in my country who go on 3 vaccations a year! and still have money to buy expensive tech. People throw so much money on the spiritual influencers and I noticed people on facebook are interrested in paintings with spiritual themes, angels, abstracts, lots of warm colors and shit like that. If i add some yapping about my paranomal experinces i bet i can make it. Just wish i had the time to start already and not be in debt rn. So i guess try finding a specific community like this that doesn't have troons in it.

No. 2477380

>>2477099
A lot of the time these fandom artists are either constantly posting engagement bait, or they have actually relevant fandom discussions that attract people to follow them. If people enjoy interacting with the artist, they'll interact with their art too, even if it's not as good. So you can keep that in mind.
Besides that, simple colorful drawings look good on the timeline, so people repost those fast without thinking.

If you don't like her posts and art, just mute her. You can't do much about it in the end.

No. 2477399

Finally a good op with the fucking painting's name on it well done. Also nonas who do speedpaints better put a filter or glaze over the video because there have been ai shitter companies ripping whole channels without consent each day I wish death upon these pedo enablers

No. 2477401

what does skinwalking mean? Isnt it normal that artists are inspired by artist they like and when its the same fandom they will draw similar themes

No. 2477408

>>2477324
This is a slippery slope anon. Maybe you start by selling out to spiritual narcs and then in 5 yrs, you're hosting a paid finishing school for middle aged anime troons

No. 2477417

>>2477401
it's one thing to be inspired, but anon is talking about some cases of artists who redraw another artists' pieces one by one, usually even just a day after, copy the way they type, copy the way they do their signature, copy what fandoms they're in, pretend to like what the other artist likes, tries to befriend the same mutuals, and sometimes even try to pretend to be your race/nationality when they aren't (this last one happened to me, it was so bizarre)

No. 2477422

>>2477417
okay. that sounds creepy as hell
I am afraid to be too inspired by my favorite artist and while I draw similar themes I don't want to be her copy, but this is another level. sorry that happened to you

No. 2477470

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Is it even worth it to go to art school at this point? Like my family is supportive towards it but I don’t wanna feel like I’m wasting money on something that’ll be inherently useless.

No. 2477485

>>2477470
Never went to art school, but the consensus I've seen is that it's only worth it for the networking (actual skill can be cultivated on the side of your irl obligations if you have the proper motivation for it). I'd say don't go if you're not naturally social and/or unwilling to force yourself to act the part for the sake of making useful connections.

No. 2477546

>>2477248
Maybe? Everyone sort of clicks better with some things than others, so there is no blanket response that could apply to everyone. Other things need to be factored in as well, such as who you're learning from and whether or not you're committing things to memory through practice and taking notes. Take notes btw. Make cheat sheets. Google things. Download tutorials.
>>2477249
Yep. It's hell. I hate it too. Absolutely nightmare existence. Thar's why it's so effective if you viciously hate someone. It's a tried and true thing and you and I are proof of its effectiveness of how soul draining it is.
>>2477271
Take notes. Write things down. Make cheat sheets. I could post some of mine or some of the things I readily have on hand. Print things out. Amass notes. WRITE. IT. DOWN.
I have bullshit short memory and I write things down and forget that I did, making it seem like some other person is leaving breadcrumbs for me. Write it down nona. Pictures, colors, and words. Write. It. Down.
>>2477470
Don't do it. The Art Institute was such a scam the burgerland government shut it down and delivered refunds. Art school is so bad, the one my father went to had people graduating without the ability to actually draw. Networking is important but the amount they charge you? No. He went to the art school in philidelphia idk what it's called atm

No. 2477700

>tfw one of my biggest art goals is to be mutuals and friends with a big artist
>but she’s in her early 40s and has been getting less active on social media each passing year
>my following count is more or less stagnant, and events that could’ve made it possible for her to notice me are getting more rare
Does anyone else feel frustrated that they missed the era of when the big artists were super active on social media and just talked and interacted more often in general? It was mostly when tumblr was super popular and twitter was also gaining traction. I’m younger than most of the big name artists that most of the online art community should know, the ones where if you checked their profile, hundreds of artists you follow can be seen listed also following them. It’s like a whole big exclusive club where most people know each other. During this era, my art obviously sucked while a lot of these people already had tens of thousands of followers, or were already in the industry. So I was too late to ever be part of the cool kids. And artists my age all seem lame as fuck in comparison, mostly gendie zoomers.
I’m so incredibly jealous of all the artists who managed to become mutuals and friends with her. I just know she’d also love my art too, we share many similar interests and tastes. And I can’t stop thinking about how old she’ll be if I ever make it big enough to be noticed, or if she (or I) dies before ever noticing me. I feel her noticing my art would be the most rewarding person ever and no one else really matters, so if she ever disappears off the internet then I might lack enthusiasm and motivation to draw again, because what’s the point if my most valued “senior” will never see it. I just want her approval so much

No. 2477708

>>2477470
Maybe if it wasn't so expensive I'd say it's worth it, but I honestly feel like nobody can justify going so far into debt in order to pursue an art career. For a cheaper option, I'd consider going to a public college that has a good art program

No. 2477735

>>2477700
Normally, most anons on this site would eat you alive with "why do you care" "just draw for you" but honestly? Same. It was especially so during the Homestuck era, where these amazing artists would just pop up like Punpunipunchu. But what always baffled me was when I would see shitty artists or people who outright never drew at all become very close to her or other artists I admired at the time. I did get noticed by my favorites, but it came by way of someone reposting something I drew in her inbox, and she was super happy to see it and was super excited as to how it looked. But they didn't source me or let me know. So by the time I'd found out my favorite artist saw something of my own and loved it, they'd already gone offline entirely or died. Fucks me up to this day despite being probably a decade ago.
It also feels a bit sad to become one of those fandom seniors? Like when all of your idols have gone on to either quit the trade or fandom, or got hired professionally, leaving inly… you. Just you, who idk anout you anon, but I see myself as being insanely boring art-wise. But there's nobody around that particular fandom that isn't shilling gendie arts or zoomie slop (the many styles that get dunked on regularly here), and it's so… hollow?
I get what you mean, honest. Like you inherited a throne that sits on skeletons or dung or whatever super dramatic thing someone else could come up with. And then the cycle repeats, and you now get the shitty art in the inboxes of people who admired you the same way you admired your idols. A noose-worthy experience. I don't know how to "draw for myself". I only know how to draw to appease a select few.

No. 2477865

>>2477700
Just send her a message if you think you have a lot in common. Doesn't hurt to try.

>>2477735
>But what always baffled me was when I would see shitty artists or people who outright never drew at all become very close to her or other artists I admired at the time.
That's because those people talk to them. I know a mediocre artist who's been stuck under 5k for years who is mutuals with some really popular artists (like 80-100k) that are way above her skill level just because she reached out to them first and knows how to keep a conversation going. A lot of online artists are somewhat lonely or don't have (m)any fandom friends so they'll be happy to engage. Followers and skill levels don't really matter

No. 2477880

>>2477735
Sorry for the long post. That inbox thing is terrible, art reposters who don’t credit the source are the worst. I’m glad you know what I’m talking about nona. Homestuck era is a great way to describe that time period. Everyone was younger back then so people had more time and energy to post art and socialize with other artists, I remember seeing tweets from an artist saying how sad they were that artists don’t really talk to each other on social media anymore as much as they used to. I guess all the big artists are too busy with jobs and general adult stuff these days. Elon making the site shittier every year also isn’t helping, so many people refuse to post there now or just started posting considerably less.
I never really thought about eventually becoming one of the “seniors” in the art community. Probably because I always flop and get ignored. A bit off topic but I always think about how aging will be like in this age of internet, where people you’ve known for years will slowly stop posting until old age and you’ll never know what happened to them, and just assume they died? Thinking about what social media will be like when we’re actually old was always bleak.
Anyway it would still be nice if I became a famous artist that a lot of people look up to, but having artists that you look up to is also nice. I just want all these artists I admire to be impressed with me. I feel nothing but jealousy when I see all these artists on instagram I follow like each other’s posts regularly. None of them ever followed me back so my art just isn’t amazing enough and it stings.

Honestly I think having a proper and personal art community for me would help a lot with my happiness when it comes to art. I’m jealous of anyone who has a close group of artist friends. I find it so annoying how none of my friends are artists. I do have some online artist mutuals, and I was invited to a discord that consisted of a mutual’s art friends but it’s mostly dead and I’m not really close with anyone there. And on the other hand I’m in a ton of larger servers that focus on art but of course there’s no real sense of coziness or familiarity there.
There was talk about people finding someone else to draw ocs with in the last thread and it sounds so fun. I wish I could join those dnd group projects with other artist friends. I just realized that I don’t have any close art friends in real life or online, which is probably a big reason why I yearn for attention from big artists.

No. 2477901

>>2477865
>Just send her a message if you think you have a lot in common
Ehh I don’t know nona, this person has over 100k followers and I’d just die if they were the type to ignore randos in their dm. What would I even say? Hey I like your art and we have a lot of similar interests, check out my page and see if you want to follow me too?
I actually did reply under a post once where she was drawing other people’s ocs, and of course that got a ton of replies and I remember that one of the replies that was chosen was a newer reply than mine, so she probably saw my oc post too and ignored it since she didn’t even leave a like. To be fair I don’t think she liked every post, but still, maybe she wouldn’t be as impressed with my art than I thought and it’s just my hopeful wishing as usual.
>That's because those people talk to them.
That’s also another thing, I admit that I’m the type to judge others when they try cozying up to big artists. I just can’t help but see it as very fake and desperate, so it’s embarrassing to me. I know it’s kinda hypocritical when I also said I wished artists would socialize with each other more, I guess I’m just too much of a pussy to make a change myself.
I would only consider leaving comments on other posts if we’re mutuals already. If this person isn’t following and they’re a much bigger artist? Nope x2. I just can’t stand the thought of my followers and other mutuals seeing my pathetic ass trying to get a big artist’s attention on their timeline kek. The view counter on tweets make the whole thing even worse, imagine tweeting “omg I love your art sm” under a popular artist’s post, and it gets zero likes and has 3k views. Fucking hate elon so much.
I guess the most direct way of me trying to get this person’s attention would be to draw her ocs. I could post it using her hashtag for her comic since I’m too afraid of @ing her directly, but since she’s barely active she probably will never see it. Even if I was brave enough to @ her, she still might not see it so I’ll look like a fool in front of my followers, or another terrible situation where she DOES see it, likes it and comments, but doesn’t follow me. At that point I’d give up tbh.
For the record, she did used to follow a lot of artists when she was active, and when she made bluesky I noticed that she followed a bunch of new different people including young artists, so I thought following her on bluesky would be my best shot at being noticed but whelp, nothing came out of it

No. 2477903

>>2477880
>I find it so annoying how none of my friends are artists.
Me too. I love my current friends dearly, but as we grow older, we no longer have things in common. I love shipping characters and none of them are really into the whole OC scene.
>There was talk about people finding someone else to draw ocs with in the last thread and it sounds so fun. I wish I could join those dnd group projects with other artist friends. I just realized that I don’t have any close art friends in real life or online, which is probably a big reason why I yearn for attention from big artists.
I was thinking about making some sort of fun OC shipping thing in /m/, but I'm kind of stupid when it comes to making threads. I'll look more into it and try to make one, since it seems like something a lot of drawfags on here want. I know I want it; I miss it. During those Homestuck days, nearly everyone talked to one another and shipped OCs. Tumblr is still kind of dead, but that makes whatever remains rather cozy. I'm not going to pretend like communicating with people is easy on there, but I noticed fujos stick together and artists that avoid doing the diversity thing also seem to be magnetized towards one another. I started recently just commenting on this one Japanese artist's art (they're bilingual I think, and seem to meme too hard to be using Google Translate), and they seemed EXTREMELY happy to talk. I'm hoping it goes somewhere, since I'm tired of the gendies being the ones that want to interact all the time.
Hope this doesn't sound shallow nona, but I'm on this thread nearly 24/7 out of loneliness, so I kinda get the feeling you have lol

No. 2477905

>>2477700
I get what you mean but not as an artist. I followed many artists from many countries on tumblr and pixiv, and then on twitter because we were into the same series or video games, more than 10 years ago. The Japanese ones all nuked their tumblr accounts long ago and only post on twitter about their professionally published books that almost never get officially translated where I am nowadays, best case scenario they'll sometimes retweet videos of cats and birds and post one generic fanart of the new popular shonenslop anime of the year. The ones from Western countries have been harassed online so much based on bullshit like which husbando they married in Fire Emblem they stopped posting as much as they used to or deleted everything. The ones who still post only post personal stuff for their own irl friends completely unrelated to art and fandom or they only annonce which comics or cartoons they're working on, or in which cons they'll sell prints. The most they'll do is reply "thanks a lot" to whoever try to strike a conversation with them if they don't know each other so I don't try. The ones who went pro are most likely still a bit paranoid they'll be deemed too problematic for their industry and blacklisted after dealing with harassment over weeb video games and husbandos so I understand why they try to seem as neutral as possible though. Some of them decided to post way more on bluesky to avoid bots polluting their notifications but not that many of them.

No. 2477921

>>2477903
The /m/ thread sounds like a fun idea, but unfortunately I don’t think I’d ever post my art/ocs on this site because of gendie lurkers who could possibly rat me out if they recognized me. Reminds me of when this general decided to join artfight and created a tag to identify other farmers but some self hating troonie here tattletaled to the af mods and got people here banned. I still hope that people who can post their art here freely will enjoy the thread if it’s ever made.
>>2477905
That’s sad, following artists for a specific interest/fandom is always hard since most of them will stop drawing that particular fandom. That’s why true dedicated autists are so special like that famous Hyouka artist who was bullied off the internet.
I don’t have a particular fandom I wanted to see from artists since I follow for their art style only, so most of the artists I love still post at least regularly thankfully. But I always make sure to save their art in a folder on my pc regularly in case they ever delete everything and I encourage nonas to do the same. I can’t bear the thought of not having my favorite artists’ work on my pc at all times

No. 2478022

>>2477470
Modern schools? No. I would save for atelier classes to get foundational skills and instant feedback. There’s only so much you can teach yourself without someone else helping you fix your weak spots. See what is available locally since it’s usually cheaper.

No. 2478036

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>>2477903
>finding someone else to draw ocs with
I was just reminded that artfight is in July and I only learned about it last year after it had ended.
I'm planning to join this year just because it seems fun to take drawing ocs into a competition.

No. 2478041

>>2477921
>troonie ruined the fun
I should have known, damn

No. 2478044

>>2477921
>Reminds me of when this general decided to join artfight and created a tag to identify other farmers but some self hating troonie here tattletaled to the af mods and got people here banned.
This is the most depressing thing I've read this year. Thanks for the heads up though; I guess if I'm going to put up any OCs for others to enjoy on this site, they'd have to be made from the ground up specifically for here.
>>2478036
Two months left! I don't have any artist friends atm since I DFE'd my last account due to a stalker (who found me again). I really like drawing for others on there. I don't care if they enjoy or hate the resulting art, I just like enjoying designs an experimenting.

No. 2478051

>>2478044
Maybe our dogwhistle this year can be just not putting pronouns anywhere? And other tactics like not posting our pictures until after it's ended.
I was planning to do 2 seperate accounts anyway just incase one gets banned, but i do not know how the whine to get someone banned process works, so if it requires user interaction I'd just try and get them banned first for cyber bullying or something

No. 2478070

>>2477700
Something about your post makes me sad nona… I hope one day you're able to enjoy your art as something just for you, and you're able to move past idolising these artists as much as you do. At the end of the day they're just other people with their own problems and flaws and it's so incredibly lonely to idolise someone who might never know you exist.

Speaking from experience, of course. I can 100% sympathise because I definitely look up to some popular artists! I'm also older though so I've already gone through several 'hyper-idolising to crashing out' phases over the years.

Hope I didn't come off as condescending kek, I just want you to be happy

No. 2478092

>>2477921
If I knew how to code i'd make a super special lolcow quiz for anons to take and be given a special code word if they pass. But I don't know how to make it anonymous so the paranoid anons don't think I'm stealing their data kek.

No. 2478153

>>2478051
Super simple and to the point. Most people who hate troons don't participate in the pronoun usage thing anyway. I'm sure that it's be hard to enforce this without pissing off an unsettling amount of unrelated artists (people who are stealth trans or some fuck). I would stick to drawing for people without pronouns but idk, some designs that are mega fun are drawn by corrupted artists who want to pretend to be gendies for the followers.

No. 2478158

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>>2478092
I thought about doing that too but couldn't figure out a way besides a Google form that doesn't indicate right or wrong answers and emailing anons who passed with the tag name and emailing the ones who didn't with a fake one kek. But I'm too busy for it and though I'd suggest making throw away proton emails I feel like it'd sketch too many anons out as you've said.
>>2478051
>>2478153
Too vague to be used as an identifier for LC nonas specfically, there are more normal artists who don't use pronouns and there are also /ic/fags on there who don't participate in that.

No. 2478249

Have any nonnies bought the new masters academy sub? Do you find it worth it? I’m trying out drawabox and noticed their partnership and the price point isn’t too bad. I’m really curious about NMAs rare art book library

No. 2478254

>>2478036
i want to do art fight so bad but i haven't done it in so long and i dont even use ocs anymore…
>>2478158
maybe no pronouns and something cow related? but idk about planning stuff on here, last time with the bans it was obvious whoever was calling it out found out on these threads

No. 2478287

>>2478254
You should do it! You have almost 3 months to prep. I hate that /ic/ fags can openly have an artfight thread and post their accounts, but we have to use dogwhistles to try to find each other

No. 2478293

>>2477921
>I always make sure to save their art in a folder on my pc regularly in case they ever delete everything and I encourage nonas to do the same.
I retweet whatever I like and save my data so I can still have their art saved somewhere in case they delete their accounts. I've noticed that some artists I like who went pro a few years ago have started to sometimes repost their old art from time to time with captions like "it's been a while since I made this but enjoy". Some Japanese artists I follow into a specific fandom right now repost everything on pixiv long after posting on twitter too.

No. 2478323

>>2478287
That gave me an idea, what if we somehow signaled to each other on /ic/ when an artfight thread gets made? There’s usually a thread up when the event draws nearer so nonas could probably try and find each other there instead. At least if some troon is obsessed enough to follow us there to get us banned on af, then the whole ship goes down including the 4chan moids kek.
What even was the secret code last time? Was it just #farmer? I’d be shocked if such a generic tag was enough for the mod to ban several people. Also, I’m thinking that the troon who ratted us out was just a summer tourist since af takes place in July so maybe they aren’t here now? If you guys organized this early, they might never know

No. 2478336

>>2478323
It was "pasture", and apparently nonnas who interacted with the banned accounts also got banned in some cases. I like your idea but it also depends on much you're able to stand moid seethe. They already cry when women on DAD are friendly to each other kek. I still like the idea of having a fake pre-existing tag for the snitch to fuck themselves over with.

No. 2478344

>>2478336
>I like your idea but it also depends on much you're able to stand moid seethe.
I was thinking nonas could go into the /ic/ thread like “any farmers here?” and nonas would reply to that post. 4chan moids shouldn’t care or notice it too much as long as we just reply to each other.
#pasture for sure is specific so I can see why it was easy to spot nonnies ocs out in the wild. Perhaps using the #farmer tag for ocs would be better, since there’s no doubt many characters tagged as farmer already? If you guys went on with this then maybe your ocs would have to be farmer themed somewhat, or not and you could just slap the farmer tag just because and no one will really question it

No. 2478358

Is there any particular reason you need Artfight specifically? Couldn't you guys just make a thread on /m/ to share artwork and directly participate there self contained on lolcow?

No. 2478380

>>2477243
I hope you'll grow up. I can clearly tell you are one of the summerfags because you don't know about the skinwalker cows.

No. 2478392

>>2478358
There is a thread for that exact thing >>>/m/188283. Anons just love to victimize themselves

No. 2478393

>>2478358
I understand that they want to have fun with art fight but they might just get banned again by lurkers snitching again. Nonas on here should probably use a request thread or the drawing board if they want to. I think it would be best to play it safe.

No. 2478417

>>2478358
>>2478392
nta and never did artfight, personally have no interest in it, but
>3 year old thread with 26 replies
I think it makes sense why people would be more likely to go for the popular trendy event where you’re guaranteed to get at least a few oc fanarts

I do think trying to find subtle code words and symbols to find each other on artfight is a bit pointless though. At that point just email each other and make a discord group to share your art accounts, like what gamedev anons did to start collabing >>2157880 There’s even a method for vetting

No. 2478422

>>2478358 >>2478392
It's a bit different, I guess what nonas want is to draw for/with other farmers without the general public knowing they use lolcow. Posting your art or OC over here is dangerous if you want to keep your use of this site a secret

No. 2478456

>>2478422
And openly talking about lameass codewords on here isn't risky? It's literally how they got busted last time. They should really just make a discord if they are this scared of kids with pronouns in bio

No. 2478489

>>2476846
You would need an art fight account to view user submissions and you'd have to willingly search for it in order to find artwork associated with the code word. You can also remove the tag at any time and remove association at any time. Posting on this site on the other hand will stay forever and anyone can view it

No. 2478510

File: 1744031203147.jpg (418.87 KB, 1080x2155, 1000016241.jpg)

>the sheer amount of furries
I'm going to bookmark evey sparkled I come across for a challenge

No. 2478521

>>2478456
Never said it wasn't, I was just explaining why they don't want to use the LC threads.

No. 2478529

File: 1744032662672.jpeg (70.89 KB, 1385x1412, IMG_8399.jpeg)

Where did Kate and her sister’s necks go in the last 2 redesigns?

No. 2478547

>>2478529
kek this is so fucking accurate, I remember seeing shit tons of girls like this in anime conventions when I was teen, accurate representation of the average thirdie otaku

No. 2478559

File: 1744034363340.webp (42.62 KB, 480x270, 585020_cb94_5.webp)

Sorry to vent but it just came to mind; when I was 12 or so my mom took me to an art club for their paint evening with an art teacher as a fun mother-daughter activity. I was the only child there, people in the club were nice and didn't have a problem with it. But halfway through the (hired) art teacher stopped the class to evaluate our works so far and she specifically out of all the paintings picked up my painting. Which was super obviously done by a kid, the only kid there. It really looked like the most stereotypical child painting with cute colorful creatures like picrel (but worse), you couldn't mistake it for anything else among the adult paintings. And this grown ass woman goes on to criticize it harshly in front of all the adults, knowing full well it's done by a literal child. She even pointed out things like "even if it looks nice this way… if you turn it on the side it's ruined because the subject is central to the painting" as if that's even a problem?! We were not instructed to do anything abstract or turnable like that btw. She then picks up adult paintings praising what I had done wrong and they had done right - no negatives about the others. I still get upset thinking about it to this day, it's a wonder I even kept doing art at all after she humiliated me like that in front of adults.

No. 2478561

>>2478529
I don't really like her art but… accurate. I even had a very similar anime, off brand messenger bag in secondary school kek.

No. 2478563

>>2478529
She just needs a few Hetalia badges on her bag and she's a perfect copy of like 10 girls I knew in high school and university.

No. 2478596

>>2478559
Sorry that happened to you but it's so absurd that this teacher seriously criticized a child's artwork that it's comical. Loser. I am reminded of a high school art teacher I had who actually got mad at me for asking for critique after class and started to rant to me about how professional critique sessions cost $200/hour and HOW DARE I ask her for critique outside of class. That made me feel like shit as a young teen. Loser art teachers are the worst.

No. 2478616

>>2478287
My guess is because trannies also use /ic/. They certainly like 4chan.
Maybe we could include one blonde cow OC and no pronouns in bio? That's vague enough for nobody to get singled out without there being accidental overlap. I think it is crutial to blend in somewhat with everyone else so that they can't target us too specifically.

No. 2478622

File: 1744037711226.png (102.98 KB, 757x628, shoewear.png)

CPS nonas, so everytime you want a 3D model to wear shoes you have to MANUALLY fix each fucking shoe to the feet? There isnt any avaiable preset? jesus

No. 2478623

File: 1744037851949.png (1.06 MB, 1378x923, 544.png)

hold on, is Brujo's story set in USA or some Argentinian villa? look at those damn windows

No. 2478629

>>2478623
Even in the ghetto you're more likely to see trailers, and people covering thier windows with tinfoil than iron on bars

No. 2478636

>>2478380
dude calm down lol. I don't really go on other boards, and most of the cows I am invested in are not skinwalkers. Idk what you mean by summerfag; I am here year round? I hope you have a good day today though; I dislike infights.
>>2478622
Might be able to make a preset yourself I believe. I know you can with hands and poses.

No. 2478660

>>2478623
She's mexican. She's probably never set foot in america so she doesnt know the difference between chicano and latam culture

No. 2478666

>>2478636
>Idk what you mean by summerfag; I am here year round?
ntyart but jesus christ why are newfags so allergic to lurking or even using google.

No. 2478668

>>2478660
>>2478623
I seriously can't wait until her gendie fanbase "eats her guts" and just quits or has a mental health break.
the death of dreams can sometimes be so beautiful.

No. 2478670

>>2478529
I actually like this design, I think it's cute kek

No. 2478684

>>2478529
>>2478660
is Brujo a millennial or just a zoomer obsessed with 2yk aesthetics?

No. 2478686

>>2478684
the latter, she's 23 years old

No. 2478714

>>2478623
Tbh this is fine to me, I’ve seen house fronts similar to this in west chicago where there’s a big Latino community (and it’s generally poorer neighborhoods). I actually find this type of house cute and cozy, there are always lots of stone/plastic angels outside and garden gnomes and shit which helps offset the barred windows. I forget what state her show is set in though.

No. 2478751

>>2478529
I don’t mind this design change but the anatomy looks like it still needs some work. To be fair this is after drawing Barbie doll bodies for a while it seems

No. 2478925

>>2478529
this is fine, it is very accurate

No. 2478974

>>2478666
I'm not a newfag???

No. 2479076

>>2479070
Please educate yourself about AI before making dumb posts.

No. 2479166

>>2478666
I think nona knows what a summerfag is, she’s just confused as to why you’re accusing her of being one.

No. 2479343

>>2479166
I'm not the anon that originally called her one, hence "ntyart"

No. 2479364

File: 1744068864796.jpeg (91.7 KB, 736x732, 9ee6873a-8176-4a28-9bd5-5c4909…)

I decided that Im gonna hermitmaxx and hide all of my art from the public eye until it morphs into something acceptable and I stop being an embarasment to my lineage. Ive stopped fucking around and started learning anatomy, wish me luck nonnas(no soyjaks)

No. 2479370

>>2479364
Good luck nona. How does one even start with learning the fundies of anatomy? Is Loomis really the most popular answer for artists? If anyone knows a good YouTube series for art fundies that would be great. I also want to improve my anatomy and watching videos would probably be more easier to digest than reading pdf files of Loomis.

No. 2479457

>>2479370
Mindlessly reading or watching won't help you either way. You need to actually draw

No. 2479466

How do you design sexy men in risque attire without making it look retarded?

No. 2479481

>>2479364
Godspeed soldier. We will watch your progress with great interest (?).
>>2479370
nta I can gather up my anatomy references if that helps anyone. It ranches from super simplistic breakdowns I nabbed from Pinterest to just anatomy books. It's a stepping stone. My stuff is color-coded because I am a retard.
>>2479466
It's a thin line you tread. I think the difference between retarded designs and pure sex is the body type and how the outfits lay on their figure. Compare Yu-gi-Oh characters to JoJo characters. (no shade mesnt at either)

No. 2479501

File: 1744078177829.jpg (45.66 KB, 735x726, gl.jpg)

>>2479364
good luck nonna! i actually fully stopped posting some time ago and i feel ok with it but i'm unsure about my progress

No. 2479643

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>>2479364
>no soyjaks

No. 2479668

File: 1744095156328.png (168.51 KB, 860x860, 1000042393.png)

>>2479364
>No soyjaks!(spam)

No. 2479677

File: 1744097308821.png (267.48 KB, 770x858, IMG_5782.PNG)

>>2479668
>No soyjaks(spam)

No. 2479818

File: 1744120743601.png (6.23 KB, 243x154, unknown-15.png)

>post untagged 30 second funny doodle of gay woman ocs a week ago
>wake up to it somehow having 200+ notes almost exclusively from porn addicted tims who post about incest and rape and pissing themselves
Im killing myself nonas

No. 2479844

>>2479818
rip, I wish there was a way to draw lesbians without attracting them. For every cool (usually russian for some reason) lesbian who likes my art, I get a billion pornsick trannies, it fucking sucks.

No. 2480034

>>2479818
When will these nasty rapehons finally all 41% themselves already?

No. 2480296

>>2478529
Okay I'm mad
She looks exactly like I did during my freshman year at highschool back in the day, even the same kind and of backpack and blue shirt, my 16 year old self could have cosplayed this without trying.

No. 2480302

>>2479818
Stuff like makes me glad I started drawing men more. My heart goes out to you nonna.

No. 2480307

>>2479818
I terfpost and they fuck off. I'll never draw scrotes because I'm not attracted to them. Trannies are pansy

No. 2480330

>>2479818
this is why lots of women get into BL, it's gay without attracting TIMs. of course most are trans supporters (or act like they are) but don't hang around/avoid TIMs.

No. 2480337

I am jealous of twitter artists who's followers are interested in their OCs.

No. 2480350

>>2480337
I feel you anon, I'm lowkey the same kek. I've had OCs for years far before Twitter and I never really had much people take an interest in them. Thankfully I'm so engulfed in (slowly) building them up to where I don't want to part with them but sometimes it'd be nice if other people had a slight interest in them as well.

I think a problem though might not be giving interactive content. Do you have a comic or anything like that that goes with your OCs? Personally I don't because as much as I'd like to do a comic, I'm too lazy but I've noticed that sometimes that can help drum up some interest.

No. 2480360

Some more Twisted Disaster shenanigans for the 2 anons who like to hear about this besides me. TD is funny when trying to frame these problems as if she's doing it because she's concerned for the "smaller" or "beginner" artists when it's so clear she's trying to speak on the fact that these issues personally affect her. I don't work artist alleys or cons and I'm sure there might be some truth to what she's saying but anytime she says that EVERY artist at the cons she works at are doing bad except for the uber popular con artists, I have to side eye a bit. I highly doubt she talks to every artist working the con and let alone that every artist would divulge to her how terrible they are doing.
Just seems like a bit of a cope on her end.
And all this on top of her job-search still going.

No. 2480489

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I know it's just a thumbnail and the typical youtube hyperbole, but come on. A week of studying is invigorating, if you can't take that why are you even drawing? This type of whining just peeves me.

No. 2480506

>>2480296
Yeah that's just me too kek Wasn't a COMPLETE orb tho
>>2480360
Oh man. TwistedDisaster… I used to watch her for her story time recollections. Is she a cow now? I saw her being mentioned previously but didn't look too much into it. I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a POC sona while being white or some shit??? Very… strange but hardly interesting at the time.
>>2480489
Weekly challenge vids are kinda stupid ngl. Tired of seeing the bait pop up.

No. 2480527

>>2480506
samefag Yeah, art fundamentals should basically be most artists' warmups? I can't imagine it being THAT draining of an exercise? After a certain point, it should either be second nature or something you feel addicted or obligated to do because you've established it as a
yknow,
>fundamental

No. 2480567

>>2480360
Idk who that girl is, but my friend who has a pretty decent following went to Wondercon last weekend and barely broke even. At NYCC she sold almost $10k though. So I don’t know if that’s a “cons are bad across the board” thing or if it’s just California because they just got done getting fucked by the wildfires. Another factor is that con is right next to Disneyland so obviously people are going to go spend their money there instead of at the con.

No. 2480923

File: 1744206868192.jpg (342.32 KB, 720x1398, Screenshot_20250409-155109_Ins…)

found this brujo_ari clone on my insta explore

No. 2480926

>>2480923
they can't really copy the 2000s anime or even western fauxime style well, it always feels insincere

No. 2480927

>>2480923
This almost feels like a troll kek, they're not even trying to hide their ripoff status

No. 2480986

>>2480337
Good on them. I think that inspires me to do better with my mine like doing my fundies or making short comics detailing my world.

No. 2480991

>>2480923
Kudos to her for twinkifying both of them instead of doing weird heterosexual but still-totes-queerio dimorphism on her yaoi ship kek

No. 2481012

>>2480926
IMO it's a kid skinwalking Ari rather than a troll, n0richim started posting in Feb 2024, just 4 months after Ari announced she was going to make her Jojo AU into OCs and revamped Kate's design. She probably just wanted to get followers by stealing Ari's AU concept and trying to copy her style

No. 2481014

File: 1744212304379.jpeg (1.24 MB, 1179x1983, IMG_4936.jpeg)

This has been doing rounds on Twitter recently and am I the only one who feels like there’s something sinister about this art? It feels very pedophilic, even moreso than normal lolishit.

No. 2481018

>>2481014
It's the facial expressions of Snow White and Cinderella, it's just typical mesugaki faces only plastered on teenagers instead of lolis. Weird shit either way

No. 2481019

>>2481014
Nah, I see it. Snow White's expression is almost a subtle ahegao and they've all got that suggestive, sultry blushing thing going on that you usually see in degen hentai art.
>>2481018
Yes, this, thank you for putting it more succicntly lol.

No. 2481020

>>2481014
because they're doing the "megusaki loli" face or whatever "brats" are translated from, with the peace hand sign thats used a lot in grotesque hentai, gyaru fashion style and not an expressive/experimental one like manbaru but the kind associated with delinquent middle school girls that do compensated dating seen in hentai and retarded shounen slop "romance" as WHORE or speculated whore or whore with a heart of gold

No. 2481022

>>2481018
>>2481019
Also gyaru being inherently sexual despite what libfems and tourists think. Why can’t these genetic dead ends fuck off back to blue archive?

No. 2481024

>>2481020
Nailed it, nona.
>>2481022
Gyaru has always been a provocative and edgy style but I hate how it's almost solely pulled out for hentai tropes these days.

No. 2481025

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>>2481014
and if you had any doubt and thought you were being "hysterical" about the faces like "oh what if that's just how they draw cheeky youthful girls!" here's moids' reactions.

No. 2481028

>>2481018
I actually thought the blue one was supposed to be Elsa but it makes more sense that Cinderella is hanging out with Snow and Aurora.

No. 2481029

File: 1744213011719.jpeg (340.94 KB, 1353x1600, Gn7lDiWagAA5z22.jpeg)

>>2481014
There's another one. Belle's eyes look retarded

No. 2481031

>>2481029
This feels like softcore porn. Jasmine would never wear a thong either, ew. I wonder if the artist is a woman

No. 2481033

File: 1744213204121.jpg (141.5 KB, 850x934, __original_drawn_by_ompf__samp…)

>>2481031
Probably a woman. Her old artstyle was very girly

No. 2481034

File: 1744213229525.jpeg (205.11 KB, 1000x1200, GoGAaYiaAAAXAJp.jpeg)

>>2481029
just saw it too nonnie, give em an inch, they'll take it a mile, they saw the reactions to the first one and thought they could get away with more degeneracy.
also kek at picrel, the icky boring East Asian character is the one who looks most "normal" kek

No. 2481035

>>2481033
What a stupid pickme whore. Notice how she never defiles series made for moidlets. Hope she gets raped by a lolimoid(a-logging)

No. 2481038

>>2481029
>draw 3D era princess alongside renaissance princesses
this is making me more mad that it should, wtf ariel fits more into this group

No. 2481039

>>2481035
Context? Did she shits on media made for woman?

No. 2481041

>>2481034
samefag inb4 racebait i meant that the exoticism runs so deep they couldn't sexualize the East Asian more.

No. 2481042

>>2481034
Based Mulan looking the most normal

No. 2481043

>>2481039
Drawing porn of series made for young girls as a woman makes you a pickme. What a revolting individual

No. 2481046

File: 1744213544997.jpg (85.32 KB, 1028x688, Sydus.jpg)

>>2481014
This moid on picrel is a vocal anti-ai but he draws nothing but boring uninspiring coomer animu girls on white background

No. 2481047

>>2481043
not just any softcore porn, the barely legal kind

No. 2481053

File: 1744213723622.jpeg (140.75 KB, 736x1038, EE0C5B09-0DE8-4CDE-A3DA-A42022…)

>>2481019
I also think it’s the heavy, half-lidded eyes combined with sticking their tongue out and the blushing like you said. I see it almost exclusively in media meant for scrotes to get off to compared to something like picrel aimed at women.

No. 2481056

>>2481046
I agree, we should use AI to get back to these coomer animu "Artist"

No. 2481060

>>2481046
this moid is fucking revolting, a lolifeetfag disgusting.

No. 2481067

File: 1744214094971.jpg (88.07 KB, 1027x713, A.jpg)

>>2481056
>>2481060
>>2481046
This is the type artists ai wants to replace

No. 2481072

File: 1744214275437.webp (Spoiler Image,39.09 KB, 669x680, media_Gn_vhj7bAAA9Rs1.jpg_name…)

>>2481067
He also made porn of Dora the explorer

No. 2481078

>>2481029
Jfc why do Japanese people always put girls who are meant to be indian/arab in such disgusting outfits all the time. I know Disney did it themselves with Jasmine to begin with but this is pissing me off as much as the disgusting outfits Nintendo put underage "gerudo" girls in with the recent Zelda games.

No. 2481082

>>2481078
This artist is probably not Japanese, she sounds like a generic weeaboo

No. 2481084

>>2481078
its meant to be gyaru

No. 2481091

>>2481078
I mean jasmines outfit is still a lot less provocative I’d say, it’s still a form of subtle sexualization though

No. 2481093

>>2481034
>>2481041
Spats are sexualized, it's just that she's in the "sporty tomboy" category.

No. 2481096

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>>2481014
>>2481029
>>2481034
these drawings remind me of the cute disney princess fan art in the westaboo art threads, if any nona wants some eyebleach >>>/m/246187 there's way more in that thread
>>2481078
idk much about the topic but I do know this kind of stuff is called orientalism, you can read more about it in your own time
>>2481067
>>2481072

No. 2481097

>>2481078
>>2481091
I actually think she is just trying to reference the original dress because im sure that trying to adapt the theme park dress into a school uniform would have been way harder.

No. 2481105

File: 1744215320350.png (886.32 KB, 1170x2032, 0207.png)

>>2480923
saw this one and found it funny that they even copied the instagram story text "i think i wanna change this character" thing that brujo does

No. 2481106

>>2481034
Is there any backlash in quote tweets?

No. 2481107

File: 1744215379906.jpg (541.62 KB, 1638x2048, GnWtL49a4AAqKNH.jpg)

>>2480506
>Oh man. TwistedDisaster… I used to watch her for her story time recollections. Is she a cow now? I saw her being mentioned previously but didn't look too much into it. I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a POC sona while being white or some shit??? Very… strange but hardly interesting at the time.
AYRT and I watched her for her story times as well but eventually she stopped doing them and focused more on art related topics. I don't know if I would call her a full cow but more like a semi-cow because of her lack of self awareness to her own art and her constant excuses for various things in her life. She's kind of like Amberlynn Reid but not abusive, just whiny and lazy.
Like discussed in last thread, she's been on a job hunt but has the most ridiculous standards despite her not working an IRL job for close to 10 years now.

>Applied at a UPS store and didn't want to work there because she feared she'd get "hate-crimed" for being "nonbinary" and getting "misgendered" by not getting referred to with "they/them" pronouns.

>Wants to make above minimum wage but is not willing to work a job that would pay that like warehouses and computer-related jobs. But she more or less thinks retail is beneath her because she claims to make more money doing her art yet frequently opens for emergency commissions.
>Believes that she was discriminated from a job opportunity because she put that she is Jewish on her job application and can't work on Fridays and Saturdays to which the job was given to someone else. Mmind you, she doesn't practice Judaism and that she more than likely didn't get the job because she put that she couldn't work Friday and Saturday.
>Continually she goes on and on about how great she is with her line art and coloring yet seems to be allergic to practicing her anatomy and foundations and her style quality is picrel.
>Went a whole 9 months not having her period and thinking that was normal only to finally go to the doctor when she started experiencing excruciating pain.
All of this is kind of cowish behavior in my view but despite her ridiculousness, I'm not sure if I would call her a full-blown lolcow because she's not as active on her YouTube and her cowish behavior is mostly seen on her Twitch where she says all kinds of dumb things.

>I think some folks were mentioning how she was making a POC sona while being white or some shit??

I don't remember that, her character that she uses is a black cyclops cat but I don't recall people saying that that was racist. I think you're probably thinking about PonderSprocket? She initially had a POC character for her talk sprite but then changed it because she felt it was misleading to use a POC character when she's a white woman.

No. 2481108

>>2481105
Zoomers ruined scene fashion, absolutely no sense of originality

No. 2481116

File: 1744215845429.jpg (274.26 KB, 1200x1500, twisteddisaster-20250214_16302…)

>>2480567
AYRT and oh right, the LA area did have those crazy wildfires so that more than likely did affect attendance and sales. And also another good point about Disneyland being next to it, it makes sense why people would rather spend a lot of money at Disneyland vs a con which when you think about it, is kinda crazy that they'd have the con be in that location lol
But the thing with this woman is that almost every con she works, most of them she said that she didn't make all that much money aside from making her table back but also always felt the need to tell the viewer that all the other artist alley artists were doing just as bad and with how frequently she would say this, I just had to give some side eye, especially when it's coming from an artist who's quality is picrel to where it's not surprising why an artist like her may not get as much sales compared to others who have a more refined style.

No. 2481117

>>2481105
>yurr
Right up there with "NAAAUURRR" as far as words that make a pickaxe to the skull seem more preferable.

No. 2481124

File: 1744215974400.webp (22.1 KB, 600x800, 59489579_p0_master1200.webp)

>>2481034
Looking at her older works, it gives off the vibes of an angsty depressed teenage girl browsing obscure imageboards, it's such a shame she went to the pick-me coomer path

No. 2481130

>>2480991
Give it time anon, she might end up going that route like so many of them tend to do kek.

>>2481012
If she was trying to mimic her older style where it looked more like TDI / 6Teen in style, she'd probably pick up a lot of Brujo's fans who initially liked her style for that quality before she started moving away from it.

>>2481108
As someone who was a teen when scene was the "in" thing, I think it's because these zoomers didn't live it and all they have to go off of are pictures on Pinterest which is what makes the style whether they attempt to dress it or make their OCs dress it come off as inauthentic. It probably doesn't help that zoomers don't seem to have a style that defines their generation unlike previous generations (70-80s = punks & goths, 90s = grunge, 00s - mall emos and scenekids). Maybe the E-Girl/E-Boy aesthetic is theirs defining style?

No. 2481133

>>2481130
What "that" route?

No. 2481137

>>2481133
Giving into genderspecial/troonism with her characters.

No. 2481278

File: 1744222589081.jpeg (Spoiler Image,1.45 MB, 3332x4096, GlJFd_pW8AAn4tF.jpeg)

I’m always surprised with what you can get away with if you rendermaxx and slap bimbo tits onto something. The anatomy is all fucked. What’s wrong with her leg? Why is she melting? Did she fall or did she pass out drunk?

No. 2481280

do you post in full resolution or in a lower resolution? I heard you should always post in a lower res, but sometimes I will see amazing artwork on twitter being posted at a high quality. I am not sure how much of a big deal it is to upload in full res or not.

No. 2481311

>>2481014
>It feels very pedophilic
What? I think that word has officially lost all meaning

No. 2481318

>>2481311
She meant the art has lolicon-bait vibes.

No. 2481319

>>2481318
Call me insane but the art doesn't feel very lolicon to me. They're just schoolgirls with a whole preppy/mean girl vibe and nothing more?

No. 2481323

>>2481319
They're dogwhistles. To the average person who wouldn't even know what a megusaki or gyaru archtype is they would see it as a regular drawing of anime girls.

No. 2481328

>>2481323
nta but while i get that some art like this can be dogwhistles, branding all "mean girl" and the entire gyaru genre as lolicon dogwhistles seems delusional and borderline puritan as fuck.

No. 2481332

>>2481323
Gyaru and Mesugaki/Kusogaki are entirely different things nona please stop clutching your pearls. The drawing looks okay to me, at most I'd like it more if their skirts were longer but outside of that it's nothing big.

No. 2481339

>>2481034
Ariel looks a bit psychotic with the crab claw and tentacle, like she killed both Sebastian and Ursula lmao and Mulan? on the right doesn’t look like her at all. I thought her signature color was dark red but the colors match Tiana, like a school uniform.

No. 2481344

>>2481319
nta but those anger emojis are a reference to the cunny child vagina rape correction meme, its pandering to that audience

No. 2481346

>>2481328
>>2481332
I agree the initial drawing of cinderella, snow white and aurora aren't that bad but you'd have to be blind if you see >>2481029 and find nothing wrong with it

No. 2481348

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>>2481319
i only became familiar with megusaki after that gross loli miku song came out. The original drawing (ariel, tiana, mulan) seemed normal, but the ones that follow have the exact expression of the megusaki loli miku.

No. 2481351

>>2481348
God I fucking hate that song so much and I hate how popular it became. It's so disgusting

No. 2481352

>>2481348
the other big hint this is pedo pandering is how the moids are reacting to it, fucking zoomies and their cognitive dissonance

No. 2481359

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>>2481319
They arent even lolis so i dont get it either. Smug anime girls have been a thing since before mesugaki.

No. 2481367

>>2481359
>Toga
You proved your point by posting an obvious yandere fetish bait character?

No. 2481370

>>2481367
what does that have to do with anything? she isnt a loli

No. 2481381

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>>2481359
smug anime girls is a common ecchi/hentai trope since forever as well. mesugaki is just a newer term for it. funny you mention toga, her whole gimmick is getting naked and losing her clothes when she uses her powers

No. 2481382

>>2481367
not every mean/smug/rowdy/bratty girl character is a loli fetish bait anon. sometimes girls can just be shitty brats.

No. 2481383

>>2481382
>Not every smug anime girl is fetish bait
You're right technically, but that example is kek, she literally gets naked in all her fight scenes and makes retarded blushing faces

No. 2481386

>>2481383
i wasn't necessarily talking about toga (i haven't watched or read bnha because i know there's a perverted grape looking sleazy fuck who i don't want to waste my time with watching)

No. 2481389

>>2481352
I swear anime fans from literally just a few years ago weren't nearly as retarded and wilfully ignorant about fanservice/fetish bait tropes kek. Inb4 "wah we're all desensitized and groomed"

No. 2481390

>>2481319
When I saw the art I thought it was just gyaru too. I know weebshit is full of fanservice but there's a lot of anons here who will call anything loli like they learned the word yesterday

No. 2481393

>>2481328
Men who lust after highschoolers are still called lolicons nona, it's only the west that seems to cope and say it's somehow less degenerate when it involves highschoolers.

No. 2481396

>>2481393
That's not what lolicon is

No. 2481409

>>2481396
Doesn’t matter what coping western anime fans say is or isn’t lolicon, Nippon moids call anything underage or child like loli. Japan also considered anyone under the age of 20 to be minors and only recently lowered it to 18 in 2022

No. 2481412

>>2481107
ayrt Yoo you're right. I mixed her up with PonderSprocket.
>her job complaints
This shit is mad hilarious. I now have something to watch for the next couple of days.

No. 2481416

>>2481107
>The character's demon tail is entirely skin coloured
Legitimately disgusting, what compels somebody to make such an ugly design

No. 2481418

>>2481280
Posting high res art can make you an easy target for AI training. There are some other risks too, but they only apply if you are a good artist. If you're mid, it shouldn't matter.

No. 2481467

>>2481416
The style is so bad the tail's color has no bearing on anything really.

No. 2481507

>>2481107
the retarded bumps on her lines because of muh style make me so irrationally angry she looks like a cactus and the butthole lips being the same shade as the skin tone this whole picture is disgusting to look at

No. 2481643

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This bit is getting annoying, random youtuber needs attention and now everyone else has to deal with it. What even is the joke??

No. 2481649

>>2481643
Holy autism

No. 2481676

>>2481643
Is there context?

No. 2481686

>>2481280
I post in a slightly lower res for commissions I get from clients I know are nitpicky about details. I think it slightly helps keep the nitpicks down. One time I even had a client ask if there was a higher resolution available for the image and I just lied kek
>>2481389
I really don't get it. How can you look at >>2481029 where Jasmine's wearing a thong and exposed bra, and Belle's posed with cleavage and her leg carefully posed to hide what would be a pantyshot ALL while wearing shit that makes them look like middles schoolers and say this isn't meant to titillate pedophile anime fans? I'll grant that the other images are more ambiguous in their sexual intent, but let's be for real about this one.

No. 2481703

>>2481014
You're probably feeling wrong about the "vaguely school uniform-esque outfit" look conbined with a tiny miniskirt conbined with the chibi faces maybe conbined with the drawing simply having kinda shit anatomy like the tiny ass feet. I don't think it comes of as particularly worse than standard high school anime girl coomerbait stuff, but the legs make me feel this guy might genuinely have a fetish for anorexia. That "knees bent inwards" pose anime artists love already makes most anime girls look retarded or like they have some fucked up bone disorder, but the way they're drawn here genuinely reads like almost Eugenia Cooney tier legs.
>>2481033
>Self harm scars
Ok, if this is a woman she is probably anorexic herself.

No. 2481704

>>2481686
And rapunzel's feet is very tiny

No. 2481708

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>>2481703
>Ok, if this is a woman she is probably anorexic herself
She is a woman, she posted selfies on her second acc

No. 2481710


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No. 2481716

>>2481713
>>2481708
Bleak. Holy hell shit like this is why it's hard for me not to hate other women.

No. 2481726

>>2481676
Super Mario Wonder

No. 2481735

>>2481710
Isn't it almost exam season for burgers, bit cheeky aren't they?

No. 2481745

>>2481344
What anger emojis and what meme??? I don’t think I want to know but I probably should so I recognize pedo dog whistles.

No. 2481757

>>2481745
NTA but you could either read the thread or look up what anon said.

No. 2481759

>>2481745
I do not want to get banned but the emojis are here. >>2481025

No. 2481765

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>>2481745
Picrel. There's a meme that's been going around rape correcting centered around loli characters pretty much. If you see anyone saying "uoooh", spamming of the crying emoji (depends on context but it should be pretty easy to spot), phrases like correction is needed or some variant, then you've spotted them.

No. 2481824

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>>2481745
It’s time for a history lesson https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/uohhhhhhhhh-%F0%9F%98%AD
This is the original tweet for the crying face and uohhh thing, I’ll post the og tweet of the brat correction meme after this. Moid in pic rel is mammoth or better known yet as dorontabi as im sure most of you have heard, at least im 90% sure this is the same moid. But correct me if I’m wrong 1/?

No. 2481831

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>>2481824
2/? These two memes, the cunny uohh crying face and the brat correction + vein emoji have been unfunny memes in many weebshit communities, mostly in blue archive but also in Arknights and genshin. Also pretty common in vtuber communities. I think most people don’t know the real origins of these, as in they haven’t seen how nasty the og tweets are, but lolipedos definitely know which is why they like parroting it. But the memes have gotten popular with faggots who don’t even know what they’re saying and are just repeating stuff they’ve heard. I know a retarded scrote who claimed that he said this out of irony, but he’s also a blue archive fan so I call bullshit

No. 2481832

>>2481409
>Nippon moids call anything underage or child like loli
This is blatantly untrue why are you lying. Loli is about body type, not age. Thats why the whole 5000 year old vampire trope exists.

No. 2481839

File: 1744488563177.jpeg (Spoiler Image,2.15 MB, 1179x2677, IMG_8244.jpeg)

>>2481831
3/3 now onto dorontabi itself. I highly recommend reading these two threads that contain most info:
https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1885174380499718488
https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1906053685333131326
Basically he is a Korean pedophile, like real pedophile as in he has Japanese gravure type content of little girls and uses it as reference for his drawings. He was an official artist for blue archive, specifically the anime and I think all he’s done was just draw an official illustration for them. His accounts have gotten suspended many times. So that’s why I’ve always hated these retarded pedo memes and everyone who repeats them, because they were already unfunny and pedoshit but the moid behind them is an unironic literal pedo who wants to rape kids, which is something that most people who parrot these probably don’t know.
Those type of weeb fans are ultra subhuman anyway so I don’t expect them to care. They’d probably agree with his sentiments if anything

No. 2481859

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>>2481839
4/4 Sorry, wanted to add onto these posts again. So it turns out that not only does he have softcore porn of little kids but he straight up most likely has cp, which isn’t really surprising I guess. This can be found in the thread I linked, but here is the particular tweet: https://x.com/gangji114584/status/1906350908671434940
He made a porn parody that looks a lot like a darkweb video of a girl getting raped by her teacher, many similarities between the video and the comic he made

No. 2481872

>>2481859
Fucking despicable. Thank you for letting us know anon, I'd heard about the "uoh" thing but not any of this other stuff. The fact that these creatures walk among us…

No. 2481876

>>2481859
nta This is something I wish I could have forgotten, but we live in a time where the most depraved people leave permanent imprints on our cultures. Thanks, internet.

No. 2481878

>>2481859
First time a callout thread like this has made me sick to my stomach jfc that's disgusting

No. 2481881

>>2481878
Oh you sweet, precious nona. How I yearn for ignorance as pure as your own. This shit is a dime a dozen; eastern moids are whole 'nother tier of fucked up.

No. 2481885

>>2481832
Loli refers to minors under 18 period, that's toddlers to highschoolers. But you know what, let me stop there and assume you're baiting/trolling.

No. 2481888

>>2481396
Weebs in the west use loli to strictly refer to middle schoolers and under but in real world Japan it extends to highschoolers too. I don't know what to tell you.

No. 2481890

>>2481859
>>2481839
>>2481831
I feel physically ill… i fucking despise moids

No. 2481892

>>2481876
We also might live in a time preceding a mobile app that alerts users when known pedos are nearby, who are permanently micro-chipped (using tech that would not be controversial at all in korea, china or japan - known sex pest/nonce countries). The more brazen they get, the more incentive digital privacy companies will have to market that to literally everyone else (since other pedos are predictable and will install the app to seem less suspicious). Moids always believe they're all ~bros~ until they're psy-opped by other moids into never starting families or becoming a future neo-exile
https://www.local3news.com/local-news/what-the-tech-doj-releases-app-with-database-of-registered-sex-offenders/article_0c1f09f8-9600-11ef-a938-0ff46f8c57bd.html (2024)
https://scholarship.law.unc.edu/ncjolt/vol20/iss5/5/ (2020)

No. 2481932

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>>2481824
Kinda ot but minus8 (another Korean coom artist) also once posted on a Korean website something related to picrel. These guys are all the same

No. 2481935

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sorry for the art vent, nonas. I draw a lot for free, for friends, etc. and have had personal accounts for over two decades. I've never had any real attention over my work on these types of sites, I mostly go underground and ignored. But recently, a friend of mine had started posting my art that I've made for the OCs as apart of their profile. And that person has been getting a wave of compliments for the artwork. I just feel really weird about it. It's his OC, so I don't want to seem like I'm overstepping by saying I'm not comfortable with having my stuff shown. How do nonas deal with having their stuff public at all? He's not an artist, so I'd feel kinda mean by saying he can't use it, it is his character, after all. And it's not necessarily that I'm uncomfortable with someone using it, just that it's being seen. But why do I even feel this way, why do I feel so strongly about it? god I'm cooked.

No. 2481944

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>>2481935
I am the same so I can't tell you a way to deal with it, my only advice is to ask that the art doesn't get credited to you if you haven't already.

No. 2481966

>>2481839
See this is why I cant take the lolicons "its fiction not reality" argument seriously when they use a meme originating from an actual CSEM-owning pedo, and support that suggestive vocaloid song using yuki (voice bank voiced by a 9 year old) from a few weeks ago

No. 2481973

>>2481966
Word. Never trust lolicons. After years of browsing 4chan, anytime there’s a thread where discussion is mostly about lolishit there’s almost always moids who talk about real life children and how much they’re attracted to them like on /a/ or /b/. They always talk about how girls ages 14 or something is peak attractive level and some of them boasting their country’s age of consent, claiming they dated teenagers and it was totally legal. It always turns pedo very fast, like I wish some moids truly were just attracted to cartoons which is still disgusting but they just also couldn’t help themselves by talking about real life young girls too

No. 2481975

>>2481966
As soon as you realise a huge swath of lolicon art is directly referencing child gravure and many lolicons will consume that it makes all their arguments immediately crumble.

No. 2482047

>>2481935
You feel that way because something you made is being shown to the largely unfamiliar public that could do whatever it wants with it. You can definitely tell your friend not to repost your work. It is his oc but it's not his drawing. Say art is too personal to you and that you don't feel comfortable having it out there. If he respects your work at all he'll stop

No. 2482063

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>>2481412
>ayrt Yoo you're right. I mixed her up with PonderSprocket.
Haha thought so, no prob. Thankfully Ponder isn't really a cow though she's come close a few times. She hasn't been all that active in a while though ever since some Discord drama was abuzz (more info about that in the art commentary community thread)
>This shit is mad hilarious. I now have something to watch for the next couple of days.
Yeah it's pretty stupid though keep in mind, this stuff mostly gets espoused on her Twitch, not YouTube. But if you have the tolerance and don't mind listening to dumb shit being spouted, she can be entertaining to listen to as background noise. Personally the only time I "nope" out of listening to them is when she blathers on about troon & gendie crap. Or I get tired of her trying to be all "how do you do fellow kids" by trying to talk like a zoomer with their slang (she says "raw-dog" a lot… Ew.)

>>2481416
Yeah it's pretty gnarly isn't it? To be fair, I'm pretty sure that was a commission but still, the quality speaks for itself kek. And with quality like this, this is why I'm not too surprised that she hasn't been able to make a living doing her art or that her artist alley sales can be very hit/miss.

>>2481507
>Bumps on lineart makes her look like a cactus
>Butthole lips
I kek'd more than I should've but spot on. Like said, I'm pretty sure it was a commission so whoever made that has poor taste but Michie's overall style just lacks true style because of her wonky ass proportions that she tries to excuse with the "my style" argument. I get that she's trying to go for a cartoon style and I personally like cartoony styles myself but her take on it is just an eyesore and needs refinement.

No. 2482091

>>2481643
At least he's giving money to artists and it's not child porn….? (The bar is at the undersoil)

No. 2482186

>>2481859
>>2481839
>>2481831
>>2481824
You couldve just looked up his name here and link the old thread where this was discussed more in detail than to repost these again

No. 2482192

>>2481105
This looks like a family guy character.

No. 2482268

>>2481643
this is the type of people AI should pander to.

No. 2482310

>>2482186
right, the additional photos of the cp victim was completely unnecessary for the information that was already mentioned in the previous threads. fucking grim

No. 2482312

>>2481676
ZackScottGames is a youtuber who just has a seriously crazy fetish for Elephant Daisy from Super Mario Wonder.

No. 2482472

It is absolutely hilarious to me whenever someone, usually a beginner, starts talking to me about how well adjusted and familiar with their screen tablet they are.
>Yeah. I just got a -insert large USD amount- screen tablet the other day to go with my -insert paid subscription program-. It's really necessary to draw anything.
>Art looks like absolute horse shit and it's clear they didn't even look at fundamentals or know how to hold a pencil.
Immediately they assume I have one too, and I'm like "lol no I use a Intuos small tablet." The way they try to backpeddal into why their hyper expensive waste of money isn't REALLY crucial to art or can't swallow the fact that some broke people can draw decently with what they have is insane. I know these tablets could do good in the hands of someone else but holy shit the crutch and cope I'm witnessing again and again.

No. 2482473

File: 1744307659453.jpeg (2.25 MB, 2153x3831, IMG_8258.jpeg)

This stupid artist and her obsession with giving all her works that dumb O mouth shape, she literally can’t stop kek

No. 2482478

>>2482063
jesus christ that art is ugly. Everything about it. Vivzie fandom is a cancer

No. 2482489

>>2482473
I hate generic animu girl art so much

No. 2482491

>>2482473
Thats like the worst expression somebody could get obsessed with
>>2481643
weird but hes paying the artists so whatever

No. 2482540

>>2482489
What should she draw instead?

No. 2482549

>>2482473
Jesus christ, this is slop. It looks like she only references from her own art.

No. 2482566

>>2482473
This is the type artists ai wants to replace

No. 2482657

>>2482472
I have been eyeing a screen tablet (a cheap-ish xpen) because I tried it at someone's place and it was so comfortable to draw in, but it surprises me when I see big and good artists post photos of their workspace and see they use blind tablet, I assume everyone switches to screen ones after a certain point haha.
I have even heard some artists switching back to blind because often it's better for their posture. But also saw others mention they had to get a screen one because the intuos was hindering their progress a bit, I guess it depends on the person.

Your case reminds me of the copic baggers back then, they all thought their art was better for using alcohol markers when they had shit color palettes and didn't even blend, a crayola set would've sufficed for their level.

No. 2482669

>>2482549
It looks imbred but theres such much tiktok artists who want to have this exact art style and I dont get it.

No. 2482674

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>>2481932
I hate minus8 with every fiber of my being. Hes a scrote who sexualizes everything that moves. The people who watch his porn and him also actually need to be taken out back

No. 2482676

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>>2482669
It all started from Matcha and tiktok alphatards call it "cream soda" artstyle

No. 2482678

>>2482674
>Hes a scrote who sexualizes everything that moves
That's just every single rule 34 artist

No. 2482685

>>2481932
Wait, isn't he a self-admitted pedophile?

No. 2482688

>>2481034
Sucks how cute I find this, especially the Tiana. The Ariel is nice too. I agree the drawings do come across as suggestive if you're familiar with anime tropes but the designs themselves are actually pretty good and would look innocent (Jasmine aside) drawn by a different person in a different art style so long as their intentions were innocent.

No. 2482690

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>>2482676
Matchas art was good albeit, but now theres been so much people trying to replicate it on tiktok because of the trend and they look so deformed. Look at this picture kekk.

No. 2482702

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>>2482690
Samefag, Also If youre a beginner artist, you are so much better off trying to learn your own artstyle than being a crappy offbrand from an original idea. After you get the basics done, THEN you can incorporate some elements. Because not only will it be painfully obvious, Youre just wasting your time trying to copy every mannerisms of the first artist but you never really have to knowledge to understand why its drawn like that. People who do stuff like pic rel are profoundly retarded. Speaking from experience.

No. 2482716

>>2482685
Yeah he's been pretty open about it

No. 2482717

>>2482702
Nta but how do artists like Matcha choose basic colors? Like, she picks from the wheel or abuse effects?

No. 2482743

>>2482702
Idk it's helpful to understand how artist use certain techniques once you reach a point where your art feels…idk like the accent equivalent of lacking a style? I feel like the stuff I make feels very bland in a way I can't describe like it feels under baked. Then I see this and I feel even more like shit.

No. 2482758

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>>2482743
Some of you need to learn colour theory and it shows, matchacha's colouring and rendering is not that complicated it's a simple progression of warm > cool > warm > cool in mid value colours.

No. 2482790

>>2482702
I'm all for taking notes on an artists style but this is overkill. All that time they spent handwriting they could have spent actually testing out what they've observed to see if what they've written was even correct kek. Waste more time idiot

No. 2482794

>>2482657
>copic baggers
ayrt That is EXACTLY it! I knew it was making me mad for a reason. It's a repeat of this. I remember using cheap color pencils and in came the tards with their high end ones but refused to draw anything that wasn't poorly mimicked anime. Even in art class.
Gonna pretend tbat Pay-To-Win games are inspired by these people kek

No. 2482803

>>2482717
Genuinely go on bilibili and search "上色教程". Her coloring method is the most generic chinese artist method and theres tons of videos on there on how to do it

No. 2482807

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No. 2482809

>>2482676
I am grateful that I don't have a style and am sticking to mimicking shit from 20 years ago.

No. 2482811

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>>2482763
And? They're still midtones and still alternating between cool and warm (and her colours aren't that pastel, maybe just the bckgrounds and some lighting). Work smarter not harder, if you have to write paragraphs breaking down a very simple method then I think you need to learn more art theory in general.

No. 2482819

>>2482685
Yeah and it was hilarious when the sharty doxxed him tbh

No. 2482821

>>2482702
>Fuck fundies I will base my entire learning experience on one person's stylization.
Dedication. Autism. My notes on style mimicry isn't even this deep. At some point you gotta go "apply common sense here", but that might be why me doing stuff like copying Sugimori's 90s style comes out less accurate.

No. 2482831

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>>2482811
but her coloring stands out from other generic popular anime artists

No. 2482836

>>2482811
nta Isn't muted a better way to describe it? I have no idea who this chick is.

No. 2482849

>>2482831
Not really. I think even the infamous glip coloured like that at one point.
>>2482836
Much better way kek, it completely slipped my tongue.

No. 2482896

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I’m so glad I wasn’t born a moid, especially the type of moid artist obsessed with shonen. Everything they create feels so boring to me, just soulless, derivative, and devoid of genuine emotion in the characters and storytelling. No amount of style and over-the-top expressions can save shit uninteresting writing

No. 2482906

>>2482896
So if I make an action series I might get cancelled for it?

No. 2482919

>>2482896
Yeah I agree, I tried watching Jujutsu, demon slayer, etc, and I wanted to die of boredom. Ill always love dbz and hxh though

No. 2482924

>>2482758
What about the style part? I know art style doesn't matter but it feels like the stuff I draw feels derivative of something else instead standing as it's own.

No. 2482927

>>2482919
Demon slayer is created and written by a woman.

No. 2482929

>>2482927
The post I replied to said nothing about only shonen by men…?

No. 2482932

>>2482927
Was that even confirmed?

No. 2482935

>>2482906
Action series with decent or at least engaging writing exist, the moids I complained about are aping the shallowest aspects of shounen manga with none of the substance. But if bad uninteresting writing applies to your story then at worst people would ignore it, assuming you’re an artist making a webcomic

No. 2482983

>>2482935
I wanna make a psychological horror webcomic/novel with action, gore, and my fetish for pathetic white collar men secretly being beast. But, I know damn well only men would read it ignoring the lack of male aimed fanservice or deeper emotional themes between all the blood and guts…maybe this might never come out kek.

No. 2483013

>>2482983
>horror action
>pathetic white collar men
rest in peace to the masterpiece i would never see

No. 2483051

>>2482983
> secretly being beast
Do you mean literal beasts such as werewolves or something, or beast as in the powerful and or savage animalistic personality?

No. 2483056

>>2483051
This might sound retarded but more like genetic experiments spliced with animal dna? He's still like one just not completely wolf. Mostly like a wolfman with a tail. I thought people wouldn't like him as a humanoid beast so, that's what my mind settled on. Why did I bring this up?

No. 2483110

what does everybody do for warm up routines? Which ones do you feel like are the most helpful? How long do you usually spend warming up?

No. 2483113

>>2483056
Based, furries can go fuck themselves

No. 2483117

>>2483113
I don't really care who likes it but tbh, I wouldn't be surprised.

No. 2483120

>>2482924
nta Humans are directly affected by their experiences. This is something you will never escape. Sometimes it's subconscious though.
In reference to >>2482743 you might want to experiment. At this point, steal palettes from images you absolutely think do it right. If a picture you come across makes tou go
>woah, I love the colors here
take time to study it! We have the rate the art thread too, and the nonas there are pretty gentle with critique. (just dont post anything self-identifiable)
>>2482919
DBZ is written by a comedy type guy so maybe it having humor and silliness mixed in (like Piccolo wearing a hat) helps with the dogshit pacing? Or nostalgia goggles? I'm still trying to figure out why DBZ and HxH do it for me too. Very fun and fascinating shows.
>>2483056
Did you watch wolfchildren and fall in love with dad or something jfc me too kek
>>2483110
I usually do hand stretches, scribble some lines to wake my senses up (zigzags, hatching, parallel lines, etc) maybe use a gesture drawing site for 15 minutes or until.I start getting antsy, sor I do some thumbnail drawings of scenery. (for digital drawings) For non-digital painting I just sit down with some toast and pray for the best kek

No. 2483130

>>2481014
I saw the one with Tiana and after noticing a kiss mark on her thigh I thought it was weird. There it is >>2481034
>>2482688
I agree. If it really is a woman even more so.

No. 2483205

>>2481124
Wait i think i know this artist, isn't she the one who used to post drawing of depressed anime girls on tumblr?? I think shes Polish.

No. 2483228

File: 1744355415755.jpg (551.55 KB, 1679x1930, sakimichan.jpg)

Sakimichan
>hasn’t posted on her main twitter/patreon since beginning of year
>still posting frequently on her side twitter/patreon dedicated to drawing porn of men (mostly LADs)
Is she finally ditching her moid audience and focusing on pandering to women?? Her art isn’t my thing still but I support the idea of it kek

No. 2483233

>>2483228
She's lucky she has had a long career and made so much money prior to the advent of AI slop. I'm guessing demand from coomer moids has dropped since her style is easily generated by AI. Now she can just say "fuck it" and focus on drawing men instead.

No. 2483235

>>2483228
I'm biased because I'm a LADs fan, but I feel like her LADs art is generally of better quality and she seems to have more fun drawing for it

No. 2483261

sakimichan and kukumomo are both pickmes who draw pedoshit scenarios for moids for their money and can get fucked. Even if they change idgaf. Women who pander to the wost men in a fandom are honorary scrotes who don't deserve my time

No. 2483263

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>>2483261
Also the most retarded shit I have ever seen in my life like picrel. She got obsessed with drawing this mentally ill gendie mpreg ntr roidpig rape nonsense. Imagine wasting such talent on trash like this

No. 2483264

>>2483263
>gendie mpreg ntr roidpig rape
damn i knew she drew coomslop but i was out of the loop to know this, kinda smart of sakimi to monetize every pornrotted group fujos,yumes,yuri and moids

No. 2483265

>>2483263
I've seen enough zelda fanart over the years to know that there are in fact women who like ganondorf. I've also never seen a man give a singular fuck about sidon either.

No. 2483269

>>2483265
What are you trying to say?

No. 2483272

>>2483263
I never followed her closely because I just assumed her art is all like this: soulless coomer brainrot. It's hard to believe she was making six figures a year off this crap. Is that still the case? I just assume AI crap has likely made a dent in her earnings.

No. 2483277

>>2482702
>i genuinely do not know how to render clothes/fabric. i swear i will learn how to do it eventually lol. the structure of [???] are very complex and follow principles i have yet to understand. but i think i'll work it out

how is this studying? it's really hard to read her writing but i can't imagine the rest is more useful. she's clearly written all this to give the illusion of being a productive artist on tiktok

No. 2483278

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>>2483269
I'm trying to say that I don't think it's pickme behavior to draw two characters that are popular with certain kinds of women in scenarios that, historically, women frequently create media centered around. I guess you could claim monster fucker/beauty and the beast type stories are male fantasies made to brainwash women, but that would ring as untrue
to me. Are fishmen and evil kings not super common fantasy romance tropes? You might as well tell me that harlequin novels featuring hunky aloof brooding men are made so women can seem more attractive to dudes by reading them, it just doesn't make any sense.

No. 2483283

>>2477324
my mom used to pay an artist for this stuff, super easy abstract stuff with an om symbol in the middle or using colors that represent a certain chakra idk
you can probably shit out a painting like that in 30 minutes and charge 200 bucks for it. maybe more, but that's what she paid

No. 2483293

>>2483278
If you were born in 1970 maybe. You're not going to convince me that what I am looking at is anything other than the same kind of souless coomer slop men make of gigantic guy and uwu dainty girl

No. 2483304

>>2483293
NTA but many women still read Harlequinn sexy pirate/cowboy/feral man bodice rippers

No. 2483355

>>2483228
Best character arc of the 2020a

No. 2483369

>>2483261
So if I use to draw goonbait for men and then pivoted to drawing sexy men, I'm a bad person according to your logic?

No. 2483379

>>2483265
As a Ganondorf fan, I am pretty sure the only people that like pregnant Link or genderbent Link x Sidon are in fact moids. Saw a handful of my internet moid friends troon out because of ntr Link or femboy Link getting railed by Sidon or Ganondorf unfortunately.

No. 2483388

what do you think of artists who paywall their porn then complain when it's leaked on other sites?

No. 2483416

We live in an age where everyone thinks everything should be free. Whining and complaining will do nothing but direct more people to look for it.

That said, I'm less sympathetic when it's an artist already making a ton of money off their work.

If it's some ai slop prompter, they deserve it.

No. 2483420

>>2483388
Silly. Commend them for qalling it off, but to not expect pornsick creatures to spread it amongst others is peak comedy. There are boorus and such that have a blacklist thing (presuming they'd get sued if anyone posts a blacklisted artist), so I'm surprised they wouldn't do that as their first action.

No. 2483421

>>2482702
The problem with this is that all this handwriting is for showing other people. Practice these techniques and show up with an aped or improved style. Not .. this. The notes on folds there on the side is utterly retarded. If she learned how to draw clothes instead of trying to ape a style that wouldn't even be on there. People do these "style studies" while thinking that normal things like drawing in pencil and shading are part of a "style". The overgranulation rather than just drawing studies is nothing but it's own type of crutch.

No. 2483428

>>2483421
nta Fascinating angle. I never thought that stealing a style was a crutch. Maybe it is for newer generation artists, beginners even? I have been going back to mimic artists from the 90s and my childhood where I looked up to the styles th artists moved on from, to generate new things for my own amusement. It's strange to see artists skinwalk someone who is active with a specific artstyle.
I remember sexyrobutts or whatever having a skinwalker that posted stolen and altered work merely a day after him? I'm not good with names but it was very… strange.

No. 2483503

>>2483388
I can understand the frustration, but everyone knows porn goes to image agretation sites 80% of the time, they should accept that fact and just be grateful people are paying them.
I have seen artists who treat their patreon as early access and/or a way to let supporter decide which characters to draw & I think that's a good middle ground.

No. 2483520

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>>2482478
Yeah her Vivziepop fanart looks wonky, picrel kek (What did she do to Millie lol)

No. 2483543

>>2483520
she loves to abuse that symmetry tool…

No. 2483692

>>2483428
Same anon you replied to. I think for newer artists it must be. I definitely style studied 2 famous artists I was in love with, I collect both their works and if I told you I liked them you'd know it if you saw my art. The difference is that I've worked in my own interests and fascinations to develop my own style with elements of what I love about theirs and it's nothing to do with aesthetics or weird style granulations. I'm an old nonna (late 30s) so my influences are also older leaning and I don't use social media so I'm not saturated in that type of scene. I do feel like it's a crutch for newer artists who are entrenched in the social media art scene though because they throw out everything else for the sake of style. Often times there may be some like for the style but it also feels influenced by what's popular and what they want to project rather than some style they genuinely like and want to work hard to fold into what they already do. It's more skin walking than using elements that they want in their art.

No. 2483693

>>2483520
The jaw shape is insane. This is gross

No. 2483767

>>2483420
Danbooru doesn't allow leaked paid content

No. 2483776

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>>2483543
She really does. I see her streams and she uses the symmetry tool like it's oxygen. It's all part of her "work smarter, not harder" motto she loves to say from time to time and sure, the symmetry tool can be useful but relying on it as much as she does is just sad and I don't think she realizes how emphasizes her lack of refinement.

>>2483693
Yeah. It's unfortunate because whenever she does fanart of anything, it always looks wonky or just unappealing to the eye outside of her few fans who seem to love it. Look at how Courage the Cowardly Dog turned out in her style…

No. 2483789

>>2483369
That's purity culture in a nutshell. You can never redeem yourself in the eyes of people who've already decided what kind of person you are based off of if they personally like your content, so why even bother? Draw whatever the hell you want, there's no point in catering to
those who'll never accept you.

No. 2483871

>>2483767
I guess that anon was just giving a random site example from top of her head, but there are sites that allow leaked paid content (or if they don't, they don't seem enforce that rule, I have seen patron stuff) like the rule34 twin sites

No. 2483888

>>2483789
Not defending sakimichan or anything but she clearly had more heart in drawing yaoi and hot men than she ever had drawing moidy coombait. Why is it bad to draw what you love after years of pandering to an audience that would abandon you the moment something shinier arrives? I feel the same way now that AI has more or less demolished the male gooner demographic.

No. 2484003

>>2483228
honestly her female art always felt so incredibly soulless, whereas her male art felt like she acutally had a modicum of fun drawing it. good for her she deserves it. redemption arc

No. 2484025

>>2483263
This looks so shit, I thought it was AI
>>2483272
probably, it's just porn but even then I'm pretty sure there's coomers that care about what made their fapping material. As weird as that is.

No. 2484028

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I’m reorganizing old art files I have saved on my computer and came across this pic I saved years ago. I remember thinking these footnotes were weird back when I saved them and five years later yup, they are just as trashy as I remember. These were from an animator so other members of this project (which was canceled too iirc) would read these notes.
>her wrist is thinner than will’s dick I guess
>to all staff
>don’t forget that every guys [characters?] this film has like to fuck her. Don’t draw her like a child totally
Why are moids like this? There’s also a bunch of Japanese notes found in more images, wouldn’t be surprised if more disgusting stuff was written in them.

No. 2484039

>>2483888
I agree with you. That was more in response to not caring if someone thinks you're a pickme whore if you draw big breasts or huge pecs.
Sakimichan should draw what she feels like drawing and not care if others think lesser of her for it.

No. 2484130

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Sorry for showing Genshin nonas but I do have a question about this. The fandom (as usual) was complaining about this design a few days ago and I'm quite curious why? I've seen art with similar designs like this and I wonder why it's a big issue. Unless it's a non-issue like always lol

No. 2484163

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kek, is this person overreacting? since it’s artfight most people would realize that this isn’t their oc right

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No. 2484168

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>>2484165
i’d be grateful to get an attack this detailed from someone on artfight and wouldn’t really care if the artist didn’t mention me when they post it on their socmed. id just quote the tweet or reply with “that’s my oc! thank you so much again for drawing her!!”
don’t know why this chap is so overprotective

No. 2484171

>>2484163
Obviously overreacting. I've literally had this happen to me, or i do this to other people. Nobody actually cares, she just wishes she got the attention for it.

No. 2484184

>>2484163
She is. And the fact that she wants the artwork to be taken down over this is so stupid.

No. 2484189

File: 1744416830883.jpg (52.92 KB, 735x906, 8be1cdd9923f9b7236c28f3ce996c9…)

Art nonnies! Please don't laugh at me I'm not a professional

I used a few characters as reference for an OC but one specific character stands out since they share some similarities and I really love their design. People keep thinking my OC is related this specific reference character as in it's a fanart.

How can I make my very unoriginal OC less less like a ripoff?

No. 2484191

>>2484168
>named "alastair"
>huge attention whore
checks out

No. 2484193

File: 1744417071850.png (1.18 MB, 2859x3344, 1SePNAXiktqLgCgp68X7MEZsHGdN6n…)

>>2484163
why even participate if you don't want other people drawing your oc…i feel like it's expected people will upload the art to their socials. they only care because it blew up and probably got more attention than any other shit they've made with their oc.

i don't even think it's a problem if they replied like 'hey btw that's my oc' instead of being like 'ummm big yikes my guy!!!! delete this NOW' and coming off as antagonistic right off the bat. also picrel is their character. gross.

No. 2484245

>>2484163
kek this person is obviously just seething that when a good artist draws their ugly oc it gets tons of likes. just crashing out in the replies due to overwhelming jealousy, humiliating

No. 2484246

>>2484245
It's an insane overreaction. Replying to the tweet with a thank you and a friendly clarification would've sufficed. I'd be disappointed if I drew for this entitled little asshole. It's good fucking art, shit. Plug your ocs on that good art and get more followers I don't get what the problem is KEK

No. 2484257

>>2483692
ayrt That is an absolutely good point.
>Often times there may be some like for the style but it also feels influenced by what's popular and what they want to project rather than some style they genuinely like and want to work hard to fold into what they already do. It's more skin walking than using elements that they want in their art.
This better illustrates for me what a lot of anons in this thread have mentioned in passing offhandedly. "Being obsessed with style is retarded" used to strike me as something weird to say, since we all have a part of someone else's art we were attracted to. But knowing this particular detail is implied now, I understand fully. Hopefully for them it is a fad, something that allows them the first steps into art (basic shapes, understanding volume, hand-eye coordination, line control), but I have spoken to some artists (young, inexperienced) online who needed help. I mentioned they needed to borrow from reality to help with drawing fiction and always got snapped at as a result. Typically
>The pose is too stiff on real people! I like how the referenced art does it more.
And it's broken, anatomically… logically..

No. 2484261

>>2484246
yes nona exactly. all this retard had to do was comment “thank you so much for drawing my oc!” and it would’ve resulted exactly how she wanted 10x better

No. 2484276

>>2484163
I understand their emotions over it, but it could've been handled a lot better, rather than being petty over the lack of character credit.
>post reply underneath the art
>"This is my OC (name) that I was super grateful to get art of! If you want to know more about them, follow me! posts several more images of their OC
It could've been that simple.

But maybe I'm wrong, and they handled it properly, because their complaint has over 15K likes.

No. 2484307

>>2484276
Your approach would have easily rerouted traffic to the person's profile (bonus points if their art was dogwater) without issue. This is insane.

No. 2484311

>>2484163
All this does is make people not want to deal with you in future, my god she's a retard.

No. 2484318

>>2484246
> I'd be disappointed if I drew for this entitled little asshole.
word, the art is amazingly rendered with a background too, that’s pretty much the most you could ask for in artfight. too bad op drew for an insane ungrateful karen

No. 2484332

>>2484163
These responses are so excessive and knee jerk. The artist didn't get attention because of their grunge teenager OC they got attention because the art is very good. If anything it was the strange creature OC that got the attention.

No. 2484353

>>2483233
Yeah the engagement on her old patreon compared to her male focused one is like night and day. Which makes me wonder if she pivoted because she really wanted to go back to drawing men or because she needed a new source of income now that the gooners aren't as interested anymore. Not knocking her either way though I'm glad she dropped that plasticy artstyle she had like in >>2483263
>>2484261
But handling things rationally wouldn't get them any attention. Though I haven't done artfight so I don't know the rules around posting art of other peoples characters.

No. 2484429

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are there any not professional drawing programs for animation nonnies recommend? When i wanted to animate some years ago everybody recommended toonboom but i ended up using fire alpaca anyways kek

No. 2484508

>>2483228
She goes where the money is. She might like drawing men more, but she's definitely not doing it for enjoyment. I've seen her porn featuring men and it is the most unsexy shit imaginable. She doesn't have a sensual bone in her body. She only makes erotic art for the money.

No. 2484510

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>no idea what to draw
>no will to draw
>hate my art which also makes me not want to draw
send help please I don't want my art to get even worse from not drawing for like a month

No. 2484512

>>2484276
The complaint has 15k likes bc twidiots love drama. None of those tards are going to follow her.

No. 2484521

>>2484429
My friend does animated commissions and she uses Krita. She loves it!

No. 2484533

>>2484510
It kind of sounds like it's simply not your thing. At least right now

No. 2484535

>>2484429
clipstudio cracked of course kek and opentoonz is good (but very complicated as most nipponese softwares are but its used in the industry)

No. 2484538

>>2484533
I used to try to do studies daily and I usually enjoy art idk why I lost interest in actually doing it rn.

No. 2484541

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>>2484510
Sometimes you just need a break for a little while. That does not mean give up as a whole, do some research into art and artists in the time you would normally draw, specfically ones that align to your interests may help. If you like history you could look at the art and techniques of your favourite periods, or you could look at architecture, or biological illustration or botany or fashion etc.

No. 2484583

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Repost from bad short comics thread. I Figured this fit better here.

No. 2484585

>>2484583
I mean, nothing to say about this that hasn't already been said in that thread.

No. 2484618

>>2484583
What about this captivated you enough to repost it? It's a harmless comic about being nice to people

No. 2484852

>>2484510
Whenever my brain shits up like this I just redraw art of artists that are worse than me and put it in some super hidden folder since posting it online is a dick move. Great confidence exercise.

No. 2484929

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>>2484130
Same anon, I found this as well and I'm still confused. Are we not suppose to use designs like this? I really don't get it at all.

No. 2484936

>>2484929
tbf it is a shitty Arabized design (this same design has drawn 10 million times by korean shitty game artists) but i dont really care that much plus the feather on the turban was mostly used by indian sultans not arab sultans. genshitfags will literally cry over everything in their shitty goon slop gacha

No. 2484957

>>2484936
and yet keep playing it? genshintards are the fucking worst they way they screech about every aspect of the game that they willingly sink hundreds of dollars and hours into. either play it or don't jfc

No. 2484962

>>2484957
Tell them to use that money to buy actual games and they'll look at you like you killed their grandma.

No. 2484971

>>2484957
They couldn't even boycott the game for that long so I have low hope for them anyways lol.

No. 2484991

>>2484929
I'm actually super confused what they're pressed about.

No. 2484993

>>2484991
smth smth "bellydancer outfits are orientalist and racist"

No. 2484995

>>2484193
So…a man? He also looks like he smells bad. They always draw the same ocs. It's obvious tumblr/twt brainrot.

No. 2485107

>>2484936
>>2484957
Why are you acting as if that design wasn't a fan thing

No. 2485158

>>2484189
Try using the Rate My Art thread in /m/.

No. 2485215

>>2484618
You're right and you should say it, I don't get why this is supposed to be bad? It's easy to become isolated in modern society, we don't comment on art as much as we used to in the prime time of places like deviantart, we're just used to resharing speaking for itself and becoming distant from friends is easy.

No. 2485315

>>2483369
Imagine having such a lack of integrity you even pander to pedo scrotes in the first place

No. 2485317

>>2484993
They are tho. It comes from seeing middle eastern women as nothing but sexual objects for white men to fetishize and "conquer"

No. 2485321

>>2484929
imagine if they knew that nazi uniforms were a trend in the early 2000s

No. 2485323

>>2485315
>Imagine having such a lack of integrity
nta This is a take that non-artists usually adhere to strangely enough. People can't just abrakadabra popularity out of thin air. Skill level be damned. A lot of artists have to stick to what sells. And as every non-troglodyte understands
sex sells.
People who have no stake in the art industry as sellers or anything beyond mere hobbyists who "draw for themselves" typically cannot emphasize with this fact because they don't take it seriously at all. It's complicated, sad, and necessary for some. nb4
>Get an actual job instead and make art a side hussle.
As stated in previous threads, this is not always a viable option for everyone. Some people have heinous disabilities or live in situations where they simply can't and only have art to support them.

No. 2485331

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>>2484929
Do they not know that male belly dancers are real? Is an indian man from India participating in orientalism? Spoilered for 3DPD
>>2485317
It's kind of complicated because of its history, and definitely too complicated for Genshitters to comment on and condemn while playing a game that does the exact same thing

No. 2485349

>>2485323
Don't you find it kind of hypocritical to post on a board that hates troons and then use the same backwards logic as them to explain stuff like this? You even pulled out the "disabled people" card

No. 2485353

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I hate him so much. This is just a lonely self-absorbed softboy who pretends to be liberal because he’s trying to manifest pity from hot women. “Gay”? You’d never draw yourself being forced to draw yaoi by ugly fujos ir gay men. This is agp fantasy shit. He’s going to troon out any day now.

No. 2485354

>>2485353
As if you need to force a straight man to draw lesbian hentai

No. 2485359

>>2485353
I like this as a thread pic for the positivity or future predictions thread

No. 2485365

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plx twitter more of this guys art of cute moegirlfriends pictured directly from his psychosis induced dreams

No. 2485366

>>2485365
You might as well post this in a troon thread. He's probably ~crypto~ rn

No. 2485368

>>2485353
I’m so skeeved out by this, I can’t imagine how actual lesbians feel seeing this, they should be allowed to shoot guys like this on sight

No. 2485385

>>2484130
non-issue. every hot 2d male should have a bellydancing outfit

No. 2485387

>>2485353
>>2485365
Why are so many men, especially artists, on the internet one step away from complete troonery? I’m starting to think AGP in men is as common as having an ass fetish. It’s like part of their natural sexuality. I’m so tired of it. I can’t enjoy art from too many moids knowing they drew it with their filthy AGP fingers.

No. 2485389

It's one thing to market yourself, but I find it off-putting how arrogant and self absorbed a lot of artists are. From highly skilled to mediocre, having confidence is fine but people seem so convinced that the world is looking their way. It's tiresome to sift through the overbearing, cringey or try-hard personality of an artist just to see their art. It puts me off completely.

No. 2485390

>>2485389
I say this as an artist. There's a breed of online artist that is convinced that everything they do is worthy of a broadcast, as if anyone even cares. Post your work and move on.

No. 2485581

>>2485349
ayrt That is a hell of a stretch. Why are you equating anything I said to troon logic? Talking about disabled people automatically makes my argument bullshit? jfc

No. 2485598

>>2485389
>It's tiresome to sift through the overbearing, cringey or try-hard personality of an artist just to see their art. It puts me off completely.
Personally I don't mind them if it's just "positive" confidence, it's the second someone starts whining I can't stand it. "Boohoo my art bad, this one flopped, ugh arthritis be damned" gets so tiring and unprofessional, save the venting for your friends and stop posting it on social media!

No. 2485608

>>2485389
I don't care how good an artist is, if every other post of theirs is insufferable or pretentious I'm not watching them.

No. 2485746

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>>2485353
"Bike-cuck" era changed him.

No. 2485757

>>2485746
This is so rancid

No. 2485764

Tumblr was so simple. I'd just click their #myart tag, and that was it. Didn't have to see any of their personal posts.
How have we regressed in terms of online art consumption, to where even Twitter replacements like Bluesky are just the same Twitter UI.

No. 2485796

>>2485764
To give Bluesky just a tiny bit of credit, the "see post in this tag from [user]" feature is a decent modern equivalent.

No. 2485883

>>2485746
He should do the same for women. Let them enjoy being women while he can’t, thereby increasing the overall happiness of the world. He will suffer a little not being a lesbian while all the lesbians flourish and thrive not having to live in a world with his girlcock in it.

No. 2485973

how many wips do you usually have going a once? how long does an average piece take you? how "dependent" on references are you?

i usually only have one thing going at a time, and if it takes me much longer than one session i'm likely to forget about it or lose steam. i feel a lot of guilt for how little i produce this way. i have a decent mental library to draw without references but i often am unsatisfied with how it turns out, i much prefer finding references that match my mental vision if its possible (hardly ever is). i feel like i can never do "finished" work without being in front of my cintiq with a second screen because of this. are people working off ipads likely drawing while referencing on another device? i love my keyboard shortcuts too much to do that on the go.

No. 2485997

>>2485746
I genuinely want him to die

No. 2486002

>>2485746
He unironically got mindbroken by that meme kek, imagine being mocked so mercilessly by other scrotes that you start on the dark path of he/him lesbianing

No. 2486101

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>>2485973
>how many wips do you usually have going a once?
Like 50. Staring a the same image for an extended period of time drives me nuts, so I'd shelf it for a few days and draw other things. Coming back to the shelf'd thing with a different angle helps me catch errors. …sometimes.
>how long does an average piece take you?
Highly dependant on how much I like the piece. If I love it, within 24 hours. If I dread every bit of it? Maybe a month. I can't count specifically how many hours because I piss time like water and lose track most times.
>how "dependent" on references are you?
Shamefully not very. I can freehand most things but then I start getting antsy if it doesn't look right. I draw kind of like picrel in my head when I sketch so I rely on muscle memory more than photo references unless working on backgrounds. Probably should fix that but I adore drawing from imagination.
My art is probably dogshit but I am in a wonderful fictional world where I can pretend that it is Okay At Best. Still haven't opened up commissions in a hot minute though. A bit unsure on what price my broke-ass audience can afford kek

No. 2486104

>>2485746
Hes going to troon out this year isnt he do it already bikecuck

No. 2486156

Has amateur art become more sexualized? All I see nowadays is tits and ass

No. 2486163

>>2483369
I know this is a days old discussion but yeah, there are definitely things you shouldn't be allowed to come back from. Maybe you disagree on Sakimichan but you definitely have your own line in the sand. Would you take Shadman back if he pivoted to drawing sexy men?

No. 2486183

>>2485323
Pedo moids don't care about artists with the rise of AI so unless you starve yourself and post selfies in pandering cosplay alongside your loli art they're not gonna care about your work. Sex sells, but you can't sell to the group who cares more than anything about getting sperm out of their body because they'll always go towards the quickest fix and you'll be drowned out fast. Learn how to tell a good story and incorporate that into your art instead, comics do so much better for the average artists popularity.

No. 2486217

>>2486156
i think its partially because thats what gets likes on things like twitter, moids will take mediocre furry femboy slop over anything normal no matter the quality

No. 2486252

>>2486156
I think so. People figured out that it's an easy way to chase likes, and the art level needed to appeal to men isn't very high.
Even gay male art is primarily fat guys over muscle guys now. Because drawing muscles requires more anatomy knowledge to look right.

No. 2486398

>>2486252
not into muscle guys/bara but the simplified cartoony style some artist have is sooooo ugly and shitty because when they draw "muscular" bodies it just looks like random lumps where they think muscles go

No. 2486448

>>2485746
What the hell happened to this fag? Is making le quirky relatable comics not enough anymore? Christ.

No. 2486493

>>2485746
I'm betting he comes out as MTF by the end of the year. Just a week or two ago he made that comic about being forced to draw yuri and his artstyle is getting 'cuter'.

No. 2486510

>>2486493
My personal money is on some flavor of enby but I agree that troonery is immenient.

No. 2486517

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>>2486510
any day now

No. 2486520

>>2486517
can he just troon already so we can laugh at him

No. 2486522

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>>2486520
there's more

No. 2486525

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>>2486522
there's a 'catboy' comic and a crossdressing maid cafe comic bc of course there is

No. 2486526

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>>2486525
last one, I'm not spending more time trawling through his comics. I wonder if it's some weird bait or if he's sincere about this stuff.

No. 2486527

>>2486520
>>2486522
>>2486525
I honestly don't think he will, I was really expecting him to initally but now it feels like he'll maybe cross dress once or twice as a "joke" and then chicken out.

No. 2486579

Internet artistry has evolved into what I like to call "faux punk". An epoch of autism creatures, blobslop comics about how much you love your friends, retarded cat memes hastily slapped onto shitty chickenscratch drawings, inoffensive safe edgy jokes, progressive commentary that isnt saying anything actually new or controversial (riot grrrl, kill your abuser), vanilla kink stuff that the author positions as something so innovative its gonna make those dumb cishetetonormative normies go bald from stress. People are allergic to thinking with their own heads, to drawing with their own hands. Everything is rehearsed. Recycled. Turned into neat catchphrases that are vague enough for you to slap them on almost anything. Toxic old man yaoi. Tboy swag. Morally grey. Doomed yuri. Cannibalism as a metaphor for love. Weird girls. You love weird girls, right? Remmember that you are a product. Problematic. Realistic depiction of mental illness. Loving like a dog. Words and phrases get repeated so much that they lose all of their bite. Everytime something new comes out it gets swallowed by the fandom and regugitated into the same sludge theyve all seen before, forced into the same tired tropes. Labels dont have meaning anymore. Artstyles all look the same, vaguely human shaped blobs of bright shapes and colors, and dont forget to slap pronoun pins on it!

No. 2486581

>>2486526
>>2485746
He unironically turned vidrel into reality kek. The cutesy clean art style gives off potential discord groomer vibes

No. 2486594

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>>2486579
You just perfectly described my feeling about current art community but i couldn't find a correct name for it. Another thing is that most twitter artists draw characters with the exact same unfunny recycled memes to death or they just redraw a popular reference from pinterest. Nothing wrong with using references but they don't change anything or put something new so they end up referencing a reference (if this phrasing makes sense)

No. 2486610

>>2486594
I know exactly what you mean. Everything gets forced into the same 3-4 meme templates. Internet art is getting standartized, its morphing into something inoffensive and predictable. Art is meant to stir the pot, to shake those who have not yet been shaken – youd think that internet would be a perfect host for that, but the softness of modern people and orvellian censorhip of social media platforms has killed internet art and desecrated its corpse. Art is no longer shocking. When I scroll through someones portfolio I dont feel anything anymore. Same poses. Same memes. Same tropes. Same "redraw this with your charcters" that are not attached to anything meaningful. Slop, thats the only word that comes to mind. At least the edgy deviantart days had edge to them.

No. 2486636

>>2486579

It's because everything has to be meme-able content or some kind of reference to something. That's what happened to most entertainment. If you look at popular anime, for example, almost everything is a self cannibalized trope of something that's already been iterated on 50 times over. It's one thing to have your influences, but another thing entirely to only have other anime as a frame of reference for creativity. It's like no one has any interests of their own, so there's nothing to say; just pump out the same art and stale memes because they saw it did numbers. As soon as a popular meme starts cropping up I try to mute it if it has a tag.

And of course the people eating all of it up talk about wanting something different, but when something different comes along, it's largely ignored.
It's just healthy to get away from the internet art scene at large. At this point, I retreated from it. I don't even go to many artist alleys anymore because it's just more internet meme art that's leaked into meatspace.

No. 2486715

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>>2486579
I agree with this entire post. However, let's play devil's advocate for a second.
Is this any different from the deviantart y2k scene? Cat face emotes, rawrXD!!, socially retarded behaviors, super bright colors on furry characters, poorly written attempts at anime drawings, emo backstory characters, long lost sibling of canon characters…
Hasn't this song and dance been playing on repeat already?

No. 2486729

>>2486579
I understand what you're saying but it's also that things become popular.
The internet is bigger than it used to be 10 years ago, people are doing what they've always done and use ways to signal to the outside world their group preferences or "tribe". People in the same tribe will copy each other so you end up seeing the same art meme until it dies.

But also some of the stuff you point out like "morally grey" i think was a desire to see change in art but people were afraid to vocalise it until someone did, now it's everywhere. Same with "media literacy" even though you didn't mention it, it probably fits in.

No. 2486737

>>2486579
Love this post

No. 2486742

>>2486594
Not to be weird but do you lack a sense of humor? Do any nonnas have a sense of humor here?

No. 2486747

>>2486742
Perhaps? Redrawing forced stock memes for the millionth time is not humor

No. 2486750

>>2486742
twitter humor isnt funny

No. 2486755

>>2486742
I do admit that some of the art memes floating around make me laugh. I still cackle whenever I see the drip Goku meme. But I also have the same sense of humor as a toddler.
The Invincible OC meme isn't funny though. Most capeshit stuff just makes me irritated.

No. 2486797

>>2486715
I like this art style

No. 2486809

>>2486715
There was always trend-chasers, and people just enjoying the internet culture, but I think algorithms and purity culture made things worse. There was still some individualism left before.

Now people are overtly obsessed with being relevant, and at the same time are socially conditioned to not step out of line.
In the DA y2k scene, majority of artists had galleries, now an artist's goal is to get the maximum amount of attention in the 2-8 seconds someone is viewing their art while doomscrolling their algorithm Recommended For You timeline.

No. 2486854

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I keep weighing the pros and cons of making art friends. It's one thing to befriend someone that draws, but it feels next to impossible to connect to someone who likes similar things period since the audiences are all tinged with gendie bullshit. I want to bully bad art in DMs with someone without them collecting evidence on some future callout post they're planning. Doing it lcf is fun and all, but it doesn't hit like it would with someone you can always go back to. It's different people with more crazies tucked in.

No. 2486891

Dumb question but why do some artists on xitter put the mature filter thing over ALL the art they post, even the non-sexual/violent ones?
Are they just shy, because I find it slightly annoying when browsing. It's obviously not a big deal, just a pet peeve for me.

No. 2486892

>>2486854
I just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art? What if it belonged to a kid or someone with zero interest in improving? When I was lurking the bad art thread, I was confused as well gooner slop counted until I realized I'd rather make fun of the subject matter than someone just drawing as a hobby. It's not like it's hurting anyone. Maybe I'm paranoid my art might wind up there because my skills…aren't that refined.
I agree with the art friend thing though. I myself refuse to befriend any artist without having to toe the line of validating their delusions. Like, no, I won't entertain headcanons or make my characters fatter, thanks.

No. 2486907

>>2486891
Pretty much, it's an interesting feel wanting to share art but also being so reluctant to. So vulnerable, easier for some than others.

No. 2486909

>>2486891
Likely because they're shy or have some other reason to want to hide it. What's more annoying is when they tag random dead accounts because tweets that start with a tag won't show up on the timeline at all

No. 2486920

>>2486854
I wish you luck, I made an art friend a couple of years ago that I do basically what you describe with and it is very nice to have an artist friend you can nitpick weird/bad art with, especially since she's in the same relatively niche fandom I primarily draw for
>I want to bully bad art in DMs with someone without them collecting evidence on some future callout post they're planning.
If it helps, I'd suggest testing the waters by trashing some art in a voice chat so there's no record if the other person reveals themself as the type to cry about how mean you are on social media. My friend was a little gendie-poisoned as well, but also was a little bit of a man-hater, so maybe that's a trait to look out for? I feel like shit-talking men and being gnc myself got her to drop her gendie labels and the bulk of her gendie retardation. She's not perfect in that respect, but she's now comfortable enough to vent about pornsick TIMs to me without guarding her language too much and that's honestly farther than I ever thought she'd get, especially since I haven't purposefully tried to peak her. I don't do any gendie shit myself, but I also only share my true feelings on the matter if I can find a polite or innocuous way to communicate it.
>>2486892
>I just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art?
Sometimes art's bad in a really weird or interesting way or the artist is way too conceited for their level of skill and I find the mismatch funny. It's just nice to have someone you can nitpick a literal who in DMs with (I only post bad/weird art on LC if it's by an exceptionally popular artist or the art is exceptionally bad because I feel like an asshole otherwise) for a minute or two. This might be overselling it, but I also think it keeps me more critical of my own art and motivated to improve while also keeping it light (if I'm only laughing at this literal who's art for a minute, then whoever might be looking at my art and similarly laughing is probably laughing for about as long–that's the idea anyway).

No. 2486972

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Pronouns are gone she's a regular girl now. Finally, I hope it doesn't bog down the story.

No. 2486979

>>2486972
>not traditionally feminine
>looks like your stereorypical 00s cartoon stacy but brown
How is she any different from, say, brit crust or the evil twins from the 2010s little pet shop remake?

No. 2486988

>>2486972
The art style is so shit

No. 2486999

>>2486972
It honestly feels like she just threw in that stuff about the gender as a one last pander for her followers. She still can’t let it go, huh? Kate is likeable as a normal girl.

No. 2487010

>>2486972
>Completely change body type to be more “realistic”
>Big boobs, fat ass, no waist
Okay.

No. 2487019

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>>2487010
I wonder if brujo is a lesbian with a homophobic family. The fact that kate is so sexualized despite being an outcast/nlog and the fact her Trent rip off is a TIF makes me wonder if she just has internalized homophobia. Kate is so sexualized, she looks nothing like the outcast type characters in the cartoons she wants to imitate.

No. 2487022

>>2486972
>she's not traditionally feminine and feels more comfortable with traditionally feminine interest #1, traditionally feminine interest #2 and traditionally feminine interest #3
lol

No. 2487024

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tama again just drawing everyone else's face looking like herself like the narc she is. she does it so often she can't even draw the rest of the body correctly and her lame zoomer fans eat it up because its dressed up in a tired y2k aesthetic.

No. 2487030

>>2487024
She creeps me out kek. The way she inserts herself into everything is so strange

No. 2487034

>>2487024
What’s the milk with her?

No. 2487038

>>2487034
no milk i just don't like her lol

No. 2487040

>>2487030
>The way she inserts herself into everything is so strange

oh nona you just reminded me of one of my biggest personal cows that i even got to meet irl, sweet memories

No. 2487045

>>2487038
Ayrt Kek okay

No. 2487050

>>2486892
>just don't get the appeal of making fun of bad art? What if it belonged to a kid or someone with zero interest in improving?
ayrt What I consider bad art is different from what is posted on this site. For instance, I find >>2486972 every time this artist is posting, there isn't anything there to critique? It's not fancy, it's not alluring, it's uneventful save for the pronouns I presume this artist had included on a character. Her art isn't bad. Things like blueberry art, diaper fetish, things that are inherently questionable, have a colossal amount of social media interaction as if it holds some inherent value? Fair game. If I see a child has made it, no, that does not exempt me from bullying them in DMs privately with a friend, where the artist can't hear me, if the art is sexual or fetishized. Skill level be damned. Like you said, subject matter is key.
I enjoy doing it or redlining art in my own time privately or with a friend in the past because it is fun. I don't cowtip if that's what you're thinking, so what sad backstory the artist has is probably not going to impact my opinion of the art.

No. 2487098

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anybody remember casin0s and her insanely overpriced edgy catboy/catgirl adopts?

No. 2487154

>>2487050
Sure I guess. I'm just paranoid as all hell, might be one of the main drivers for getting better imo. If it wasn't "this is cool, lemme try" then it's "man, I don't ever want to be roasted even if it's for the better so time to get grinding". Like, I never see men do this, have you noticed? Okay, not all men, but subreddits like mendrawingwomen or escher girls would never exist if a man made it. Men are complacent while women seem to strive for perfection. I think balance needs to be considered.

No. 2487185

>>2487154
ayrt Could be. I know men do it though, because the friends I used to do this with were men. As much as I can't stand moids a majority of the time, the moid artists I spoke to had a streak of insecurity exactly how I see women on here act. Maybe they do it in specific places, but I've also seen some moids just relax and enjoy drawing. It might be universal, with us women just being more open about the struggle.
Afterall, we've seen how insecure moids het about little things we take for granted kek

No. 2487188

>>2486579
This is my meditation.
There is so much art now, but a dire lack of sincerity that's wrought this.

No. 2487415

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>>2487098
yup, though her characters have charm to them personally. I wished she would keep them but she sold them all. kind off dissapointing. her characters had potential for interesting comics. picrel was sold to a worse artist and I can't stop alogging.

No. 2487498

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>>2486972
>FL’s 2nd character blurb is about LE GENDER
>ML’s is more detail on personal hobbies and interests

No. 2487503

>>2487498
its kinda funny that this character is as boring and flat as jotaro is

No. 2487536

>>2486972
It's not my thing but I wish her well, the only thing that's bugging me though is that the updated art style and proportions don't resemble the artwork that originally drew in her audience in the first place. The way Kate's body is drawn feels very modern, it doesn't feel Y2K at all. Some nona theorized that the artist was trying to get ahead of complaints about the characters promoting EDs by being so thin which while understandable, is a shame if true because that's just what artwork looked like back then.

No. 2487542

>>2487498
It is literally so funny she redraws him the same ways every time and Kate is drawn and changed dramatically with each updated piece

No. 2487545

>>2487536
Nayrt or the nonna you mentioned, but there was some Twitter thread criticizing brujo and claimed that Kate was conventionally attractive as she is, so I believe that could be why Brujo changed her to be curvy.

No. 2487547

>>2486972
>>2487498
i dont fully dislike her art but the simple faces next to all the detail looks kinda silly to me, especially comparing it to other 2000's cartoons or even just any animated show that can have a cohesive simplistic style instead of wanting dimension and realistic bodies when you're just going to draw a flat head and dot eyes
>>2487019
i mean she's a tif and had a gf i think? but i dont think her family its homophobic if shes publicly trans
>Kate is so sexualized, she looks nothing like the outcast type characters in the cartoons she wants to imitate.
she's also supossed to be somewhat popular with guys, unless she changed that too kek

No. 2487555

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>>2487542
He even poses nearly the same kek

No. 2487556

>>2486579
Cultural ouroboros. Algorithms took the fun out of everything.

No. 2487564

>>2487555
So this character got on puberty blockers and testosterone… In the early 90s?

No. 2487568

>>2487547
>shes publicly trans
she's not a fully commited tranny shes just one of those tifs thats a girl with pronouns. I doubt shes on T.

No. 2487576

>>2487547
all that detail might just be for illustrations, once animated the designs will need to be simplified and it will probably look better.

>>2487564
I've accepted that she will inadvertently make something offensive and will simply wait for the fallout of those creative decisions.

No. 2487580

>>2487415
Sometimes I feel envious that my art was shit in the 2010s so I couldnt hop on the deviantart trend of making generic animu/furry designs and selling them for hundreds kek

No. 2487584

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>>2486579(baiting)

No. 2487627

>>2487415
dollar store kaneoya sachiko

No. 2487726

>>2486579
not to derail but i've noticed something similar happening with the artists themselves - not only is art starting to look the same, but most of these internet artists try to act the same way too, to seem "relatable". maybe it's just me, but it's so odd that it's become normal for artists to be TMI-level open on their public accounts: complaining about everything, mental illness sperging, using the same buzzwords all the time like broken records. think mgong and how she constantly freaks out over every little thing.
i understand this could be an effect of the current algorithms that demand a 24/7 stream of content but i miss when artists just quietly posted their work and shut up. it's beyond bizarre to see an artist you look up to post their work and immediately follow it up with a post or IG story about how their self-diagnosed schizophrenia is making them act up or whatever.

No. 2487773

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>>2487098
She rebranded recently but is subtle about it. I'm surprised there isn't much backlash about it since she was run off the web for being inappropriate with minors in her discord server

No. 2487797

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>the scene Griffith oc artist is a former anachan
Sheesh

No. 2487799

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>>2487797
The drawing in higher quality

No. 2487813

>>2487799
>chubbier
Has this artist ever seen a chubby person?
>40 years old
Has this artist ever seen a 40 year old man?

No. 2487818

>>2487813
her only frame of reference of moids is from yaoi

No. 2487821

>>2487797
>>2487799
>draw an anachan girl, call it a boy

No. 2487828

>>2487797
>>2487799
Look, i don't mind when people take inspiration from their favorite artists but she just straight up wants to be like Ari and following trends instead of creating something new or independent, that's a problem a lot of beginner twitter artists suffer from.
>>2487813
>>2487818
Was she called out for this?

No. 2487832

>>2487813
i think she's saying he turns chubby after 39, thats why the age is up til 39 and the text says 40 and onward
is she ESL?

No. 2487833

>>2487498
at least he isn't (openly?) a TIF anymore which makes absolutely no sense in le early 2000s

No. 2487841

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>>2487828
Too bad she’s just a lame copycat with worse designs, if she had even half of Ari’s level of popularity(and notoriety) she’d probably be so much more milky than Ari because of the nature of anachans kek

No. 2487850

>>2487832
Its still hilarious that this is their perception of a 39 year old man kek. No man past 30 would look like that wtf. Also calling him "recovered" from his ED when he still looks like a malnourished twig?

No. 2487881

>>2486972
this person needs a writer so bad lol.

No. 2487883

>>2487536
i don't follow the artist but it just seems like she changed her art style because she got better? her initial art style had charm yes but it also seemed like the beginning point. She just evolved

No. 2487934

>>2487883
It's no use. The nonas on this thread who hate her can't provide any substantial critique outside of their personal vendetta. To the rest of us onlookers it just looks like natural style progression, but to them they see something else entirely.

No. 2488173

>>2487883
>>2487934
what style progression? nothing about her art has changed apart from kate is fat. and she's not even really fat, she has big boobs/ass & a small waist. also i think a lot of the people who comment on ari like her work, so it's hardly a vendetta. i liked kate's design more when it fit with the y2k style she got popular for. it feels out place now. the male lead has always been boring though.

No. 2488236

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>>2488173
ntayrt but agreed. I would say Brujo peaked around this time last year(picrel) and has been deteriorating since then, even before the thicker Kate style change. Her issues with anatomy became more glaring and her drawings became less interesting/dynamic, and I don’t think she’s improved much on either of those.

No. 2488253

>>2487726
I absolutely love shutting the fuck up on my art account. It's especially annoying when artists feel the need to justify why they haven't posted a picture in forever like, this isn't anyone's business imo, you'll see me when you see me. Though I get some people are just trying to stay relevant for their livelihood's sake, this is the salt thread, so.

No. 2488345

>>2488236
Her older coloring was nice too. It had a certain vibe. The new one is supposed to be punk and edgy so I guess it fits.

No. 2488366

>>2488236
She really wanted to make them cis in these drawings. Shame she doubled down on gendies forever.

No. 2488373

Why does every medieval historical artist have to be at least one flavor of annoying shithead? Catholic apologists, those Eastern Orthodox LARPers. Even more annoying are the ones who make shitty "waifus" of historical/history-inspired characters as some sort of ideological avatar. I swear if I see another shitty anime girl simping for monarchism/fascism/theocracy, I'm going to commit arson.(alogging)

No. 2488381

>>2487726
Glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this shit. I don't follow artists to hear them whine about their personal lives. Oh, you're fighting with your room mate or some shit? What do you expect me to do with that?

No. 2488383

>>2487833
Ari reversed his titchop in the 2000s for “realism” and has him bind instead. She recently posted him wearing a bikini top at the beach.

No. 2488443

>ajin author pops out
>scroll through his account
>loli porn
It's my fault really since I knew he was a male, fucking degenerates

No. 2488449

>>2486891
They probably ticked that one "Mark your posts/account as sensitive" option in settings, so all media they post gets marked as mature. You can do that instead of manually marking your images as sensitive when you post them.

No. 2488450

>>2487415
Close enough. Welcome back Mike and Melissa.

No. 2488452

File: 1744751980354.jpg (841.72 KB, 1800x2048, 1000078584.jpg)

>>2488236
>>2488383
The fact that Alex is female is wounding me, they can't be a cute lesbian couple that would make too much sense.

No. 2488454

>>2486972
>Named Catalina
>nickname is Kate
How often does this happen?

No. 2488455

>>2488454
Kate is also a common nickname for Katherine, it's not a stretch at all

No. 2488459

>>2488454
I don't find that unusual or remarkable

No. 2488462

>>2488454
i feel in spanish it would be cata, not kate

No. 2488465

>>2488452
stop trying to insert yourself into a cow's fantasy world

No. 2488468

>>2488465
Shes barely even a cow, oh wow she drew cringe transgender shit as a teenager and it stuck in the art she's making now, that's literally every early 20s xitter artist today. The only difference is she kept a consistent enough style and managed to get big number.

No. 2488486

>>2488454
Americanized nicknames are a thing

No. 2488498

>>2488468
Nayrt, she’s really not cow-ish currently. She was last year but because of this show (I assume) she’s trying to be more proffessional.

No. 2488555

>>2488443
Reason why I can't rec his work here even though the mc in The Pool is cute.

No. 2488597

>>2488462
It would probably be Cati (cah-tee) or maybe Linita in diminutive. Possibly Catya. But her character is American so Kate makes sense.

No. 2488605

File: 1744760470190.jpg (281.74 KB, 1073x1039, asexual.jpg)

>>2487019
She posted this kek

No. 2488619

File: 1744761195639.png (5.09 MB, 3570x2859, 1716081946127.png)

>>2488605
Of course she did. My oh my why is labelling yourself as "ace-spec" becoming popular again? Why did it not die in 2019 as it should have?

No. 2488623

>>2488605
lul 69

No. 2488640

>>2488605
>posts this to her 200k followers

No. 2488641

>>2488619
So as long as autism exist, young spergs will still think their Uber special for not being gooners.

No. 2488656

>>2488605
"spicy straight" bingo

No. 2488663

File: 1744763638850.jpg (49.02 KB, 428x482, 1000029509.jpg)

Anons what do you recommend for getting out of…its not art block but i've been studying fundies and i feel a bit scared about being shit or worse than before? Last time i made a drawing from imagination after studies i did got better but i havent drawn in a while so im not sure where the insecurity stems from, maybe from the all the time i spent without drawing?.
Idek what to draw i have 0 ideas

No. 2488679

>>2488605
>also be asexual
You can't have your cake and eat it too.

No. 2488683

>>2488663
Pick elements from what you currently like/care about. Also asking yourself something like "what would I draw for myself, what drawing would I like to get right now?". Or, what would you need to get from a drawing right now?. For example maybe you want to see something cute or cozy, maybe something simple or more complex, etc.

No. 2488829

File: 1744775540041.png (32.12 KB, 594x250, ic janny.png)

>one of the /ic/ jannies is a lolipedo scrote
Ofcourse, i am glad i never joined all of the shitty discord shilled here. What a cesspit of a site.

No. 2488835

>>2488829
Also the other one is a furry faggot with a fat fetish. Only the cream of the top artists to moderate /ic/.

No. 2488890


No. 2488893

>>2488663
> i feel a bit scared about being shit or worse than before
Just remember that if it comes out like hot ass you can always scrap the sketch. It literally doesn't matter, nobody has to know you made garbage except for you. And don't resketch on the garbage sketch just do a completely new one. Also if you're in a bad headspace you're more likely going to psych yourself into drawing poorly, I was drawing something earlier and did 4 different sketches while I was feeling like shit and they all came out like shit, went to do something else and came back after a half hour and the 5th sketch was way better.

No. 2488916

>>2488829
Is that the janny? I’m confused what those tweets are trying to say

No. 2488918

>>2488829
what nooooo it cant be

No. 2488970

>>2488829
Am I reading this right? This sounds more like
he's condemning loli artists. Is he talking about someone else?

No. 2489044

>>2488890
I was saying that someone can't say they're sexually attracted to someone and then be asexual at the same time. They'll try to tell you that "it's only a little bit" but that doesn't really count. Definitions change all the time for these fucking people so why bother. I've heard that "asexual people enjoy sex actually!".

No. 2489095

>>2489044
Did she ever say she wanted to fuck Kate or Alex?



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