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No. 2550003

This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.

Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping
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> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers
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> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama
> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters
> Debates over death of the author
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No. 2550052

>pic rel
So what are we gonna talk about then?

No. 2550066

Is anyone actually that pressed about representation in fandom/media? Maybe I just have fatigue, it's been a long time since I've found something new that I like, but I can’t help but wonder is it my own apathy or just genuine lack of need to see every person (or myself) inserted into things that I watch. Representation has been such a big topic for years and it really feels like it doesn't matter that much for everything to show everybody all the time.

No. 2550083

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>>2550066
blogposting but as a black woman, representation is nice but at the end of the day it never mattered too much to me. (For ex. I related more to Princess Daisy as a young tomboy than I did any black character on TV.)

That being said, i've never been the kind of person that HAS to see someone that shares the same physical traits as me to know I can do something. But I think that's rare in human beings to not need that kind of external validation.

Most people are visual creatures like that and need to see it, which is why we have this whole dumb topic that's been lasting for years.

No. 2550085

>>2550052
All of them. I'm going to get a bingo before you and win the thread.

No. 2550095

>>2550083
I feel you, nonnie. I'd rather see different kinds of women than the forced diversity we've been getting in the last decade. A tomboy princess would be more awesome. Also, I love princess Daisy's colors. It's interesting because I've grown up in the cosplay scene for the last 20 years now and black women cosplaying has never been an issue, but recently more people are focused hard on it. I just want better written women characters in general.

No. 2550107

>>2550095
fr its so weird. I cosplayed as L and another black friend of mines cosplayed as Envy from FMA back then and no one gave a shit that we were POC or w/e, we all just cared about the source material. I never had that insecurity that I couldn't cosplay as my fave character because we didn't share the same race/gender like I see now in the cosplay community.
This weird hyperfocus on race etc. has actually divided us a lot more imo than unite us.

No. 2550121

I’ve came to the conclusion that male nerds are subhuman and deserve all the possible hate and harassment they can get. I think it’s really funny how they complained about being boolied in high school or whatever as if anyone cares, kek. We need a mass exodus of moids from fandom spaces for good.

No. 2550128

>>2550083
I'm black too, and I hate when anything non-white or male needs to represent every group under the sun. I came for women, not amab NBs in drag?

No. 2550133

>>2550083
Ayrt I also think that there is a lack of character diversity in the sense that a majority of characters also have the same personality and storylines, over and over and over. maybe I'd be less apathetic towards it if I was seeing things like characters with traits that make their plot/development more intriguing. I don't know how many more times I can stomach a character that is a copy and paste of another character except this time it's totes different because they're taking the easy way out with visual rep rather than writing underrepresented types

No. 2550134

>>2550121
I seen a twitter post once saying something along the lines of "the needs are now surface level idiot consoomers and the jocks are reading ancient texts and LOTRfags". They're all moids so it makes no difference but it was a weirs realisation that moid nerds have become this horrific unsympathetic entity that I can only wish the worst upon instead of feeling kinda guilty seeing one get slammed into a locker. Burn their interests the ground is what I say

No. 2550135

>>2550128
This is exactly the way I feel. This is less about fandom and more about media in general, but it makes me cringe so hard the way categories like “female” and “nonwhite” get grouped with every other social justice topic in fiction sometimes, especially when some people online see gendieshit as the only meaningful category of minority.

No. 2550153

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thoughts?

No. 2550162

>>2549884
Last time I saw the comments, it was just women being nostalgic. Probably has something to do with the moid attention the video got >>2549002

No. 2550181

>>2550083
The picrel looks ai generated

No. 2550203

>>2550153
watchmojo still exists?

No. 2550207

>>2550203
Kek that's exactly what I was about to say

No. 2550213

>>2550181
all AI images have a smoking gun, and this one's no different- how come her necktie merges into one fabric piece before the knot? not to mention that janky earring on the right, and that INCREDIBLE background.

No. 2550353

>>2550213
I thought danbooru banned ai?

No. 2550370

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No. 2550375

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>>2550095
>>2550095
as a kid I felt more represented/connected to characters that shared my personality traits rather than just looks. probably because I was already surrounded by people who looked like me. relatability is important for kids but it’s not exclusive to just race
>>2550353
>>2550181
it’s not AI. it’s just the type of generic art that gets fed into AI

No. 2550376

>>2550370
>art so soulless it gets mistaken for ai
rendermaxxing strikes again

No. 2550381

>>2550213
Have people forgotten artists can just be mediocre

No. 2550385


No. 2550387

>>2550381
It feels traced from ai image

No. 2550391

>>2550370
Kek I guess it's just a retard who doesn't know how ties work.

No. 2550393

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Yes, it's a troon.

No. 2550396

>>2550393
Who's that?

No. 2550418

>>2550153
Watchmojo was always a money hungry ,viewer-bait channel.Of course they were going to take a route that could attract possible newer viewers with controversial titles/takes.I don’t get how people are wringing about this when the channel hasn’t been relevant in eons and never had any quality control in the first place.These tards are just giving them what they wanted.

No. 2550458

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what the fuck is he talking about?

No. 2550460

>>2550458
It looks like they darkened her eyebrows?? okay, men are retarded

No. 2550463

>>2550458
It’s the same fucking model with slightly different lighting and camera angles. Gamer moids were a mistake.

No. 2550466

>>2550458
I know nothing about this game, but left just looks like really unflattering lighting.

No. 2550488

>>2550458
Am I tripping or is that the same fucking model?

No. 2550551

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>>2550066
I think representation may be nice for small kids, but honestly, I never cared for that. I usually enjoyed way more the dyanmic of trying to become like the character rather than the character having to be like me.

No. 2550590

>>2550458
Funny Cdpr is being considered a woke company only now when they went out of their way to remove a lot of shit from the witcher books, like kek. Geralt wants adult women. Woke shit probably also includes Geralt not wanting to bang someone he considers his daughter. Witchers are meant to be fucking ugly, if anything Ciri is a witcher supermodel even on a bad day.

No. 2550610

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>>2550066
Personally, when I want representation, I just write my own fanfics.

No. 2550617

>>2550551
>>2550066
I think representation is important to show children that differences exist and they don't have to be scared of it. For example, a lot of kids are frightened the first time they meet a visibly disabled person, but if they've already seen disabilities on TV or something they won't react so badly. Once you reach your teenage years, though, it's ridiculous to expect validation from media.

No. 2550651

>>2550610
So do I. I don't know why this concept is lost on the youth. They're all so retarded and need everything to be canon and official.

No. 2550693

>>2550651
I'd be happy they shared my ideals and life, could give less of a damn about skin color.

No. 2550710

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>>2550651
Responding to say this. I view race bending for "representation" the same as when dumb "fans" horribly mischaracterize because "it's my headcanon". If you truly love a character, you wouldn't change them in a way that disrupts the fundamentals of what and "who" that character is meant to be, even down to the design essentials of what makes that character physically themselves. If you "need" to redraw a character as a different race than what they are, or if you "need" to rewrite them in a way that's objectively stupid compared to what the source material is actually telling you just so you can "digest" and like the character, you're not a real fan. You're just in the fandom to fuck around. It is for that train of logic that I also personally believe that 99% of coomer artists are not real fans of the movies, shows, books, comics, and games they make porn of. When 90+% of them cannot even get the physique of the character accurate to what they're meant to appear as, I'm going to have a difficult time believing that they truly have respect for the media itself.

No. 2550736

>>2550710
>It is for that train of logic that I also personally believe that 99% of coomer artists are not real fans of the movies, shows, books, comics, and games they make porn of.
One of the main reasons fanart lost all meaning for me. At this point, just call it FOTM art and not "fanart" because you need the spark to draw their favorite character. I may have less views for not wanting to do fanart, but I see it as my own way of respecting a character since I don't have the same chops or understanding that the original maker had when they made them. The author may not be the true presider of canon, but compared to what "fans" often do, It feels like a the mona lisa vs sonichu situation. The only case where fanart and fanfic are better than the source material are genuinely mid to bad media, but then is it really fandom?

No. 2550744

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>>2550003
>(…) children or troons arguing on Xitter
that's all this general is kek that might as well be the only box (and yet I keep coming back)
it also hurts seeing danganronpa and homestuck in the same box, even if i get why

>>2550153
>>2550418
I have zero sympathy at this point, twittards are so used to being feared and coddled they thought everyone else would keep their heads down and do as they say forever

No. 2551962

>>2550181
me when i'm bored and need to make up shit to argue about

No. 2552010

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Can we include parasocial celebs in the fandomsperg thread? I think Jelena shippers are a good example but Royalfans are literally group psychosis. It's been a decade and they're still saying Meghan seduced their precious Harry. The current tinfoil is Meghan faking all her pregnancies kek

No. 2552013

>>2551962
This reply seems ai generated hmm
>>2552010
These cretins have nothing to dianafags

No. 2552404

It's an amazing time when a personal fandom cow reactivates months later.

No. 2552413

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No. 2552432

>>2552413
>ignore the fact that the female characters would most definitely not have any romantic chemistry for such a possible relationship to even work just to draw and write them fucking
I wish shippers like this would just admit that they want to see and make porn instead of pretending that their dumbass pairings are totally aligned with what the source material gives us.

No. 2552454

>>2552413
I probably said this before but I'm sick to death of certain types shoving "make it gay" bandaids over everything.

No. 2552456

>>2552413
Wasn't this already posted before?

No. 2552588

>>2550066
I used to feel this way but then I just know men will suddenly understand the importance of representation if genders were reversed in literally every media by tomorrow.

No. 2552599

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What's with this phenomenon where women will defend character designs in smut by comparing them to real women's bodies?

No. 2552609

>>2552413
I remember seeing this shit all the time on tumblr during 2013-2015 and it felt just as forced as the friction between the girls over this extremely mid moid in-universe. I love yuri but it just feels performative as hell.

No. 2552777

>>2552599
Not wanting to see women with boobs pouring out of their clothes means you’re jealous kek

No. 2552802

>>2552599
>>2552777
To be fair it's almost always small breasted women whining about this stuff and trying to politicize their insecurity by masking it as feminism. There are far more pertinent women's issues in the world than a literal fictional character's tit size. Get a real problem.

No. 2552813

>>2552802
nta but you sound fat kek

No. 2552816

>>2552802
>There are far more pertinent women's issues in the world than a literal fictional character's tit size.
True! So why are you getting offended on behalf of fictional characters who are designed for coomers? Because that's what the discussion is about kek. Are you one of those people who thinks Sonico is supposed to be empowering fat representation?
>Inb4 reeeeee chestlet
Jokes on you, my bewbs are average so I have the right to call both sides of this spergy argument retarded

No. 2552907

>>2552599
It's called "coping with obesity", you can be thin or reasonably curvy and have big breasts but it's always obese women with average breasts who project into fanservice characters.

No. 2552921

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my default position on posts like this is that, until proven otherwise, they are made by autistic virgins who have literally never touched anyone of the opposite or same sex. The only thing they have that resembles sexual experiences is online rp with other autistic virgins.

No. 2552929

>>2552802
The world doesn’t run on anime logic, go outside and talk to people for once
>>2552907
I have small boobs and the only time I’ve ever been body shamed for it is by fat women or MTF troons. Ironically enough, I’ve never seen a skinny or even just average weight woman with big boobs project onto oversexualized big tit women, it’s always fatties. One of my personal cows is an obese weeb who draws herself as skinny with big boobs and claims anyone who doesn’t like those hypersexualized women is totally jealous

No. 2553261

>>2552802
>>2552929
>>2552813
>>2552907
I have large breasts and still think those are retarded and that moids who like coomslop should be culled, but I don't like the nonas calling everyone who has big boobs fat
You guys exaggerate. The obvious solution is to ban moids from drawing

No. 2553332

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i just can't handle modern fandom anymore. even nerdy hobby spaces online feel nearly unbearable…i just can't believe it. fandom is full of gender humor and spicy straights now, witch hunting, the dumbest discourse over the stupidest, most pointless bullshit. it's so…….i don't even have a word for it. the fact that you can't even really escape it is what really gets me lol. this shit infects millennials, zoomers, everything. it's like i have to be a hermit online now

No. 2553334

>>2552802
In what world do you have stick thin arms and watermelon sized breasts you coomer

No. 2553335

Another reason never to trust small titted women, this thread proves you are the most insecure, bitter and catty women on the planet. Keep crying because your Nigel jacks off to Sydney Sweeney, we all know that’s the real source of your ‘moral outrage’.(ban evasion)

No. 2553338

I could've sworn this exact argument happened this same week/month

No. 2553341

>>2552929
>>2552907
>>2552816
>>2552777
>>2552813
I’m almost certain these are all posts by the one insane schizo samefag who has been screeching for the last 2 days about being boolied by fat women (how fucking low on the social pecking order to you have to be in order to get bullied by landwhales lmao) and screeching FAAAAT at any woman who says ‘having big tits is fine’. You’re insane. You’ve called women with blonde hair and large breasts ‘pickmes’ for existing and are determined to frame your insecurity as some kind of feminism or political statements while having an absolute melty over women with large breasts. You are the saddest creature I have ever witnessed and probably an insane tranny too since that’s why you got bullied by fat middle aged at work kek. Take your fucking meds and woman up.

No. 2553342

>>2550617
>>2550551
>children and kids
Ayrt I mean representation in adult media, my apologies, I didn't think to clarify that in my post. Rep is always important in kids media for sure but I feel like it doesn't always translate well into adult media because it usually comes at the cost of good characters or interesting plot lines. Like I get a children's TV shows all having similar episodes about things like disabilities or race because there's only so many kid-friendly angles you can take with topics like that so they get a pass, but when I'm watching (for example) Law and Order SVU I don't know how many times I can take Olivia Benson being called a bigot so that the disabled or black cop can go on the same journey of self discovery they've been going on for about 7 years now because they're only there to be black or disabled

No. 2553343

>>2553338
I’m not surprised because this board is full of impoverished troons who are depressed about their gross pointy HRT A cups and can’t afford surgery, and insecure autistic anachans with long ring fingers and excess androgens, whose discord e-bf loser Nigels are all porn addicts.
These losers fly into a rage whenever they see a woman who reminds them of their shitty relationship with their hentai addicted moid who makes them feel like they’re not good enough for having huge anime girl tits and they try to frame this insecurity and intrasexual competition as some kind of retard version of feminism. Then they get super upset when you can see right through them and call them out for it kek.

No. 2553346

>>2552816
Are you the same retard who was having a meltdown about Super Sonico like a month ago? Holy fuck you’re STILL mad about that??? I would be triggered by cartoon tits too if my bf chose wanking over it to having sex with me. I feel sorry for you. Pixels and big boobied women aren’t the enemy, your moid is. Leave him.(ban evasion)

No. 2553347

>>2553343
Nta jesus nonna you didn't have to take out a comically oversized hammer to kill her lmao. But you're right, it's always the same shit when a flat chested nonna doesn't like being a flat chested nonna. It's a board full of women who aren't judging them to begin with but they lash out regardless despite the fact it's moids who are measuring worth by breast size (and who cares what moids think anyway? It's so dumb)

No. 2553351

>>2553347
>who cares what moids think
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying. I don’t get jealous when I see a woman with J cups or a big titty hentai girl because I don’t date coomers in the first place. Just look at the relationship thread or LAP thread and you’ll see soooo many farmers are dating shitty men who compare them to instagram bimbos and have hentai addictions, and the farmers feel like shit and hate themselves because they’re dating these shitty ass moids. The cattiness is just them raging and lashing out because their moids make them feel like shit. If they were genuinely happy and secure in themselves then they wouldn’t need to screech every time they see a large breasted character or woman, like it literally wouldn’t affect them in any way whatsoever.

No. 2553355

>>2553351
Also like think about it logically. If you have small breasts and are happy with them, why would you be upset that men lust over big titted ladies? Wouldn’t you be happy that men are leaving you alone and paying you less attention anyway, since moids are evil scum and trash? And if all big titted women are pickmes who enjoy the attention anyway, like you claim, then how does it affect you in any way and why do you want to ‘save them’?
Let them have those coomer moids, it doesn’t affect your life unless your moid is a coomer too.

No. 2553373

>>2553335
Imagine being such a pickme gangbanger you unironically say shit like this. Holy shit kek
>>2553341
>>2553343
>>2553351
Why are you so adamant on defending some Reddit moid just because some women don’t want women with absurdly big tits wearing revealing clothing. You sound like such a fucking NLOG. Go play nikke and zzz to impress the moids you love to placate so much. This all started because I said women not wanting to see oversexualized depictions doesn’t equal jealousy and that’s literal scrote thinking. This has never been controversial to point out in previous threads, and I don’t see why it is now. Stop justifying bodyshaming with more bodyshaming you fucking hypocrite. Also since you’re weirdly insistent on it, my BF loves my body and he’s not a deranged coomer like you want to be so bad.

No. 2553380

>>2553373
>ree nlog!
>ree pickme!
>ree go play bideogames and suck cock you evil pickme harlot!
>ree my nigel doesn't even watch porn!
I accept your concession nona. Get well soon.

No. 2553381

This entire conversation is dumb as hell.
Can't you guys just make fun of character designs without bringing real women into it? Do you really need to screech about fatties and bone rattlers when talking about genshin impact characters? Why the fuck are people talking about their boyfriends?

No. 2553386

>>2553381
It would be good if they actually a sense of humor and would make fun of the designs, but they always just end up screeching and moralfagging and it's boring. Nobody in the real world gives a single fuck about this issue, only terminally online retards do.

No. 2553389

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>>2553380
All this because you can’t accept I’m right and you are bodyshaming women because they dare criticize male gaze slop. That you Addy?
>>2553381
If fatty-chan didn’t lose her mind over women rightfully being upset over picrel (I decided to look for myself) and make up fantasies about my boyfriend jacking off to other girls like a scrote none of this would’ve happened. Considering the original subreddit is for male yandere stuff which is a fetish for women with low self esteem and often goes hand in hand with maledom, so I’m not surprised the users on that subreddit are defending it at least

No. 2553393

>>2553389
>150K women with small tits and porn addicted nigels agree with me
LOL. Is this some kind of gotcha?

No. 2553395

>>2553389
i'm a woman and this image doesn't upset me. i have medium size tits and am single. am i a pickme nlog too for not being offended over it? genuine question. i like my 2d moids drawn heavily sexualized, for what it's worth. lmk if my woman status is invalidated by being this way.(ban evasion)

No. 2553399

>>2553393
What are you even talking about? I was just posting the original screenshot in which the thread was from. You can’t deny that’s a porny character design. In a series for straight women, most women don’t wanna see a femc with absurdly large tits. If you’re a fag and like that? Good to you, but don’t try to act like it’s wrong that other women don’t like it. Also ironic for you to bodyshame women with small tits then criticize men for being porn addicted in the same breath like that’s not something a scrote would do. What’s next, you’re gonna call rape eroge empowering and feminist?

No. 2553404

please get back to posting fandom discourse and not arguing over breast size like shitty moeblobs in a 4koma. this site gets stupider every time i visit it

No. 2553405

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>>2553389
>>2553399
>you are bodyshaming women
>also anyone who disagrees with me is fat

No. 2553408

>>2553395
You’re desensitized to porn and oversexualized depictions of women. As is the case with most women into nerd hobbies. >>2553405
Fat people can lose weight. Who cares? Muh fatphobia is a burger issue anyway.

No. 2553413

>>2553389
Blasting women who are arguing with you as fatties and talking about your boyfriend makes you seem underage, too easily pushed into talking about your personal baggage that nobody cares or should care about in an online anonymous forum.

No. 2553416

>>2553405
You can control your fat, you can't control your breast tissue.

No. 2553417

>>2553408
you pretty much just immediately invalidated your own argument in one breath. you don't actually care about body shaming because you immediately call any woman who disagrees with you fat. i am not even fat btw, just pointing out your hypocrisy. you just don't like seeing big tits and are arguing in bad faith and multiple people have called you out on it now.
>>2553413
is also correct. i think you are a very confused and low iq underage poster.

No. 2553420

>>2553418
>That goes both ways for women with large breasts too.
Obviously. You shouldn't be shitting on women's natural breast size whether it's big or small for any reason.

No. 2553421

>>2553399
>You can’t deny that’s a porny character design.
Breasts aren't even a sexual organ, that's a very male gaze/pornbrained judgement to make. And yes, skinny women with huge breasts exist, get over it. Giving them representation is not a crime.
>>2553416
That goes both ways for women with large breasts too. But you're only upset about one way and think it's fine to shame one group of women but pearl clutch and cry when yours gets shamed. You can't have it both ways. Either bodyshaming women is wrong, or it isn't.

No. 2553422

>>2553413
I am an adult. I just don’t care. Go read your josei smut comics with G cup women that get abused and raped by the male love interests in suits.
>>2553417
It isnt about women with big breasts because you can have nonsexualized depictions of women with big tits, you’re the one acting like that can’t exist. Straight women don’t like seeing exposed tits, why is that hard for you to understand?

No. 2553426

>>2553422
I don't get aroused or offended by breasts, no matter how big or small they are, because I'm straight and know that breasts are not a sexual organ. Do you also get offended when women breastfeed in public?
>Straight women don’t like seeing exposed tits, why is that hard for you to understand?
I wouldn't say I don't like it. I would say that it doesn't bother me at all, no more than seeing a person's bare arms or legs bothers me, in other words, not at all. If there was a woman with huge boobs and cleavage showing standing right in front of me, I would not flinch. Same goes for character designs.
>but men will jack off to it
Men will jack off to a 25kb low res picture of a woman's feet in sandals. I don't care what men are thinking or sexualize since they are going to sexualize everything anyway.

No. 2553428

>>2553422
>Go read your josei smut comics with G cup women that get abused and raped by the male love interests in suits
nta but this is such an unhinged thing to say

No. 2553429

This feels like a variation of the anti vs. proship retard war. Who the fuck should really care to be this upset? It's a cartoon. Her back isn't hurting because it's not even real.

No. 2553438

>>2553421
I remember this same exact argument being made by a mtf trying to explain how a 13 year old girl in a video game wearing a bikini and doing belly dances was her expressing herself and "representation", completely ignoring the designers were male coomers and that it was meant for male coomers.

No. 2553439

>>2553421
>m-muh representation?
Ironic of you to call me underage when you’re bitching about representation as if women with big tits can’t just check any anime or manga ever for representation. I don’t know if you’ve ever read josei or adult manga for women, but the femc is almost ALWAYS oversexualized with gigantic tits wearing sexy clothing. The average cup size in Korea (in the case of the mentioned manga) is an A or B cup as far as I’m concerned. If anything there’s the opposite issue, where the readers are so insecure about their body they must imagine it as an idealized pornified version of themselves.
Anyway, I never once shamed women with big boobs unlike the anons here who have said degrading terms for women with small boobs like a scrote. I made fun of fatties, who cares? Being fat is a gender neutral trait and a skill issue. Also the woman in the original screenshot you defended is a pickme who uses slurs such as cunt for female characters. This typology of yumejos are always massive pickmes so I’m not surprised

No. 2553440

>>2553422
Even worse then, you're mentally underage. It's not bad to shit on crappy josei webtoons, pretty sure I've seen this comic get laughed at before on this site or another, but yelling about fatties, your boyfriend, and then just a generic josei stereotype insult isn't it.

No. 2553442

Women comparing each other's bodies to drawings is fucking retarded no matter how you slice it. It's moid behavior.

No. 2553445

>>2553438
You are just changing goalposts now as an attempt at some kind of gotcha. First everyone who disagreed with you was a fatty. Now everyone who disagrees with you is a pedophile too apparently.
>>2553442
Completely agree. I genuinely cannot getting offended by boobs, ever. I would check myself into a mental health facility if seeing tits in public caused me to crashout like sperg-chan.

No. 2553448

>>2553440
Samefag but on the other hand, people here usually are really into shitting on big breasted designs so it feels off that now they're fine with it.

No. 2553449

>>2553439
That's not actually true, there's a huge amount of manga and anime that revolves around sexualizing women with small tits. You're just choosing to be offended by the big tit mangas only, again because you don't actually care about hypersexualization of women, you just get upset when other women's body type gets hypersexualized.

No. 2553454

>>2553445
not any of those nonnas though kek. I'm just noting that "it's representation" is mismatched with what usually is the intent behind such designs.

No. 2553455

>>2553426
Wow, you really are brainwashed right down to the point of thinking that a woman breastfeeding and oversexualized depictions of women are the same thing. Hope you get over your ailment soon, women being objectified should always disgust you.
>>2553428
You think that’s unhinged? Kek
>>2553445
That anon wasn’t me but they’re right and it doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Oversexualization of women and girls is disgusting period. The fact that you as a woman aren’t offended by oversexualized depictions of them tells me everything I need to know.
>>2553449
Stop putting words in my mouth retard. I think they’re both disgusting and I have panned loli faggotry on here numerous times before. Either way, I was for the most part talking about josei which to begin with shouldn’t feature hentai-tier women to begin with.

No. 2553459

>>2553455
This will be my final reply to you because you still aren't getting it. But honestly you strongly give off the impression of a pornsick underagefag and have heavily internalized the male gaze. Big breasted female characters are not automatically hypersexualized or offensive, and small breasted women are not inherently 'lolis' or pedobaiting (nobody even brought up lolifag shit except you when I mentioned small boobs, jumping onto the loli wagon over small tits is just weird imo)
It's genuinely sad and concerning that you box female characters into porn categories depending on their breast size.

No. 2553461

>>2553455
>hentai-tier women to begin with
lmao what does this even mean when hentai features women with all tit sizes being raped?

No. 2553467

>>2553455
artists can draw their characters however they want because it's their art. if certain boob sizes are offensive to you, then don't consume that artist's art that triggers you. seems pretty straightforward to me. there are josei characters with every boob size imaginable, i'm sure you can find one that fits you and doesn't send you spiralling.

No. 2553472

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Okay now I'm weirded out, this thread has been laughing at josei tits forever. What's next, solid snake is actually attractive?

No. 2553475

>>2553472
replace laughing with crying and you might be right, not many laughs going on here, but a whole lot of seething.
here's an idea. email the mangaka and ask them to draw their character's boobs to your personal size preference.

No. 2553479

>>2553459
>honestly you strongly give off the impression of a pornsick underagefag and have heavily internalized the male gaze
Projection.
>Big breasted female characters are not automatically hypersexualized or offensive, and small breasted women are not inherently 'lolis' or pedobaiting
I literally said that myself.
>nobody even brought up lolifag shit except you when I mentioned small boobs, jumping onto the loli wagon over small tits is just weird imo)
I say that because most if not all loli characters have small boobs, and I can’t even think of any single anime or manga besides maybe like 3 where a small chested character ISNT a loli.
>It's genuinely sad and concerning that you box female characters into porn categories depending on their breast size.
Oh no, I grouped characters designed to appeal to moids fetishes into their rightful boxes. The horror!
>>2553461
You know EXACTLY what I mean, don’t play coy.
>>2553467
This is the same logic libfems use to justify women oversexualizing themselves and other women under patriarchal conditions.
>>2553472
Influx of twitterfags. Not even a few threads ago those same people were seething over an anon calling that character ugly ironically enough

No. 2553480

>>2553475
Tbh I don't really give a shit about tits unless it's taking half of the screen up and covering the sexy man in which case I'm just dropping it but it's unnerving. Like I've shifted to another reality.

No. 2553483

>>2553479
literally just don't consume art that triggers you then. how hard is this to do? what's the ideal booby size that doesn't send you into a spiral? i'll email the mangaka right now for you and request it. i think you're just intentionally looking for things to rage over lol.

No. 2553486

>>2553483
Most animanga and video games is slop with oversexualized women unless it’s for kids or boring josei. Instead of trying to defend these misogynistic writers, why don’t you try to have some sympathy and realized women are tired of the hypersexualization of women in everything?

No. 2553490

>>2553480
>Tbh I don't really give a shit about tits unless it's taking half of the screen up and covering the sexy man
i agree nona and you're one of the few level headed people in this thread. tbh i cant even remember a josei where that actually happened, but you're probably correct that it does in a handful of particularly porny joseis.
thing is that anon is acting like the female character here >>2553389 has some insanely ridiculously huge triple Z cup boobs, when it looks like a large DD or E cup at most to me (not even a rare boob size irl). also she was whining about the boobies being exposed? they're fully covered in that screenshot even, lol.

No. 2553491

>>2553472
>What's next, solid snake is actually attractive?
He could have been if it weren't for the chain smoking and that mullet. God bless the Japanese girls who called him an old fart in front of Kojima when testing the game, at least we have Raiden.

No. 2553493

>>2553479
I was on your side at first because I too have encountered stuff like >>2553438 and I thought that's what you were talking about in general. But then it turns out you mean this >>2553389? Which is literally a completely normal body type and not even drawn in a particularly sexualized way. Get a grip. I think you've started out being mad about a legitimate issue and then gotten oversensitized into fuming over not just actual sexualization, but any body type a man could possibly find attractive at all, which is all of them.

No. 2553494

>>2553486
i'm trying to help you nona. i am fluent in japanese too. give me the artist names whose art is triggering you and the character names whose bodies you want them to change to your liking, and i'll email them right now, saying that their art is too sexualized and misogynistic and that they need to change it asap.

No. 2553496

>>2553490
She is wearing skintight clothing designed to emphasize her tits. Most women in Korea have small boobs, literally what is the point? You sound like those underage retards on twitter who insist loli isn’t inherently sexual.

No. 2553497

>>2553493
Beautifully articulated post nona, but she is still going to rage at you and try to die on this ridiculous hill.

No. 2553498

>>2553494
Nta but that might actually work, some artists are sensitive enough to dfe at that.

No. 2553499

>>2553496
>Most women in Korea have small boobs, literally what is the point?
Most women in Korea don't have eyes that take up 1/3rd of their faces, a tiny pointy nose, or legs that take up 2/3 of their body length either. Yeah…that's kinda the whole point of manhwa. It's not supposed to look like real people.

No. 2553502

>>2553490
I have seen that comic criticized pretty heavily before but I can't remember why. It was more than just her looks, but the looks added on to it.

No. 2553503

>>2553496
Nona you have BPD.

No. 2553513

>>2553472
I don’t know why anons are acting obtuse about why males draw women with comically large breasts. Next they’ll say that the mc from Stellar Blade is super feminist and shouldn't be criticised.

No. 2553514

>>2553499
But you’d want a character that resembles your body, no? Why would a woman with small tits want a S/I big boobs unless she’s afflicted with patriarchal conditioning?
>>2553497
I will not fall victim to you libfems gaslighting me into thinking that is totally nonsexualized

No. 2553517

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>>2553502
I personally think the way Haesoo is drawn is beautiful, as well as Taeha. I didn't sexualize her, because I have no interest in doing so. They are both gives exaggerated characteristics (large boobs for Haesoo, massive shoulders for Taeha, both have very young looking and beautiful faces) so it's not like some fat ugly bastard stuff with a hideous shittily drawn male character and a pornified female. Taeha is meant to be beautiful and idealized looking too. Some coomers probably will hypersexualize Haesoo but hey, coomers sexualize everything, so who really gives a shit.
It's an 18+ manhwa with adult themes, it's not meant to be read by tweens. It would be a problem imo if Haesoo was presented as some brainless bimbo pickme with no depth, but she's actually given a lot of depth and isn't made out to be a one dimensional slut at all. People who are seeing her as a smut character are just projecting onto her imo.

No. 2553520

>>2553513
Same reason we want 2D men with comically large cocks, pretty catlike faces, and tall height. Face it, real life people's faces and bodies mostly look ugly, 2D is meant to be a perfect fantasy aesthetic. Personally, I prefer to look at beautiful and fantastical art. If I want to see some hideous realism with physically flawed and dumpy looking mid characters, I would just consume some of that ugly ass tumblrina inclusivity art.

No. 2553521

>>2553517
>women is wearing skintight clothing
>moid is wearing ugly frumpy baggy clothing
We are never escaping the patriarchy. Either way, do you not see the issue with a self insert fantasy needing to have the female mc being idealized and perfect when male targeted media on average has average male self insertion mcs. Either way, this scrote looks like James Charles and is a false equivalency.

No. 2553523

>>2553514
>But you’d want a character that resembles your body, no?
Believe it or not, anon, not every woman needs the FL in her junk food smut to look exactly like her to enjoy it.

No. 2553526

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>>2553521
You are so boring and miserable.

No. 2553527

>>2550083
Princess Daisy being a tomboy is more of a fandom thing, though.

No. 2553529

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>>2553389
>anons defending this
topkek whats going on, next they are going to defend super sonico

No. 2553530

>>2553526
Damn! What is this called so I can read it?

No. 2553532

>>2553521
no offense but you sound like the female equivalent of those moids who cry when the male main character is too attractive because it ruins their self insert fantasy

No. 2553533

>>2553517
Thanks for the info, I genuinely can't remember what the original complaint was about(maybe the femc looking too young for her age?), so I'll take your word for it.

No. 2553534

>>2553523
If I wanted to fap and was immediately granted with a female more sexualized than the male id be put off immediately and not wanna masturbate.
>>2553526
Nope. I just don’t like men who look like they take dick on the regular and have had their lip fillers and BBL paid for by their sugar daddies.

No. 2553536

>>2553529
>WHAT IS THIS? an anime girl???? with boobs bigger than a b cup? AHHHH IM GOING INSANE THIS IS AN OUTRAGE (bait)

No. 2553538

>>2553534
>nona is so mentally cucked she cant even self insert as stacy
rip

No. 2553540

This debate is caused by some anons not being able to distinguis between fictional women who just happen to have big breasts in a normal way and fanservice female characters invented to make male coomers spend money. It's the only way the way this thread is going to shit can make sense. It's like when normies look at otakubait art and scenes from fotm anime and think it has to be for girls based on the cutesy art, pastel colors, high number of female characters and lack of action scenes when you know the target audience is grown men who won't leave their basement.

No. 2553543

>>2553536
>defending the mascot for a company that makes loli rape games with the artist drawing toddlercon porn of her
Retarded or newfag, which one?
>>2553538
Nope. I just don’t fall victim to patriarchal social programming

No. 2553544

>>2550095
>I'd rather see different kinds of women
Wanting to see women is just a different version of representation/forced diversity, especially nowadays.

No. 2553546

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>>2553544
This bait is a bit too much.

No. 2553557

>>2553546
You're lucky you've never seen moids complaining about women existing in a piece of media that isn't there to suck them off as forced or pandering. Congrats.

No. 2553562

>>2553536
Anon she's the mascot for a porn game company.

No. 2553563

>>2553529
you dont get it anon, they have 18z natural self supporting breasts, a waist so tiny its literally just empty space between their tits and their ass
and a tiny frame with a gigantic natural ass that everyone stares at

No. 2553566

as a woman i feel characters like felix, bridget, astolfo etc. give me a safe outlet to explore my femininity without the pressure of having to be a feminine woman, they're feminine for me(offtopic)

No. 2553570

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>>2553529
the funniest part is this is old(er) sonico art, her proportions have only gotten more insane. spoilered just in case.

No. 2553571

>>2553529
No, because what this argument boils down to is Sonico is bad because she's for moids while >>2553389 isn't because she's from a comic for women.
This is why I don't care about women complaining about sexualization in media. Anons would be shitting on Haesoo's design instead if she looked exactly the same but placed in a moid comic.

No. 2553583

>>2553571
>Anons would be shitting on Haesoo's design instead if she looked exactly the same but placed in a moid comic.
why would i read or care what men have in their comics. have you seen the content on the average porn site? its stomach turning. i get upset about real life women and girls being roughly throatraped, sodomized and abused on porn sites, sure but not about literal drawn lines.

No. 2553592

>>2553583
maybe that post isnt about you anon

No. 2553624

File: 1749359307608.jpeg (109.92 KB, 1024x434, download (1).jpeg)

>>>/ot/2552562
A fanbase that I'm glad is inevitably going to become a fraction by the end of 2025. IHNMAIMS dogwalks MW to hell and back anyway. Even Ib is more fun as a game because at least in there you can fuck up in different ways to get more than one ending. Story-based games need to get used to having more than one ending and way to play the game. MW doesn't do anything with itself other than basically say "look at what a piece of shit Jimmy is". If the appeal of a game is the story and there's only one ending you can get, what reason ever is there to play it more than once or just twice?

No. 2553635

>>2553624
i dont want to say but she reminds me of her

No. 2553640

>>2553635
Of who?

No. 2553662

>>2553640
The girl reading this ♥

No. 2553683

>>2553624
Ive read some crazy ass ted/AM fanfiction

No. 2553709

>>2553683
Nta but pls link

No. 2553718

>>2553709
I found it again it was by mswhich on AO3! Theres a lot of new ones too damn. im gonna be reading these

No. 2553743

File: 1749370570300.png (1.21 MB, 1532x672, dfgftj.png)

>>2553389
You might get booed and heckled for your opinion, but I agree. The way Haesoo is drawn feels a little off to me too. No other woman in the entire manhwa has her proportions. I have noticed that some korean shojosei manhwa tend to give the FL comically huge boobs as a visual marker of how she is supposed to be the superior woman. Meanwhile, the male characters like Taeha and Mincheol all have similar, balanced proportions.
I remember reading another manhwa "Your Majesty Please Spare Me", where the FL had this ridiculously huge monoboob. It looked especially wild next to all the other female characters, who were drawn normally. It is not even just about the art though. What really kills the experience for me is how these stories treat every single woman who is not the FL.
Almost without fail every other female character is written as some jealous, bitter bitch who exists just to make the FL look good. Haesoo's coworker was actually sweet to her at first, and then out of nowhere she flips and turns into a bitch. Then there is that other retard who sleeps with Haesoo’s ex-husband. The ex is actual trash so I can overlook this instance. Even in the flashbacks, every single woman is horrible to Haesoo just because Mincheol has a crush on her.
It is hard to take any of this seriously when the entire cast is just there to prop up the main girl. Feels less like a story and more like straight-up wish fulfillment.

No. 2553767

>>2553743
Kekkk the proportions are so funny she looks like a fucking alien with a chest tumor this belongs in the bad fetish art thread

No. 2553768

>>2553662
Oh you're cute.

No. 2553786

>>2553743
I can't get over how off she looks? Like some weird ass pixar mom who went under a anime filter.

No. 2553803

>>2553743
Are manhwas ever good? It looks like korean Clipart to me

No. 2553815

>>2553803
No, they peaked with Killing Stalking.

No. 2553822

>>2553566
Dafuk you're even talking about unsaged chan

No. 2553824

>>2553803
Japanese shit is lolis and braindead high school slop. Korean shit is plastic surgery induced mania. Chinese shit is ccp cock sucking slop. Though out of the three, only manwha checks one box but then ruins it with the kpoop faces and copy paste plots. I just want men that are my type god damn it.

No. 2553825

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>>2553815
>>2553824
The only time I actually liked a manwha and when the artstyle didn't made me want to vomit was Secret Alliance

No. 2553826

>>2553824
>Chinese shit is ccp cock sucking slop
Kek sure, even the heaps of yaoi doujins Chinese fujos keep pumping out that the ccp explicitly dislikes?

No. 2553830

>>2553529
This is the most dressed I have ever seen her, I thought the "artist" was allergic to giving her clothes

No. 2553848

>>2553743
>Feels less like a story and more like straight-up wish fulfillment.
yeah that’s the entire point of it, it’s just not for you kek. i’m sure you enjoy your male ryona abuse yaoi femdom or whatever

No. 2553853

>>2553824
There's plenty of variance in all those countries, it's just that the only stuff people translate is the sloppa that trends.

No. 2553863

>>2553743
Tbh her and her boytoy's looks activate my neurons so it's more like a "hot couple I'm rooting for" aspect for me. Also I actually like the poverty orphan ex husband and his rich younger gf, they make me laugh at how ill suited they are for one another but he has no option but to stay with her and change himself if he wants somewhere to stay. After being used to bossing the FL around, he has no power in this new situation and I want to see where it goes. I also thought it was so sweet that his younger gf hugged him when he confessed he was an orphan who lived in poverty and was scared she'd reject him for not being manly enough or something. And I like how sorta-psycho the FL's boytoy is.

I actually hard agree that the flower shop coworker girl was written weirdly, even for a fan like me I was like "uhh okay. I guess if it was going to be anyone to create conflict within the story the only option was her because the supporting cast are so limited because the FL doesn't go out." Kek. So I just rolled with it. I guess if the Coworker Character was a male he might be aggressive towards the FL instead and be like "you should respect your husband!!" because he'd be automatically intimidated by a hawtie like the FL's love interest, but with a Female Coworker she would have attempted to get on the LI's good side by "warning" him? Which has the double effect of "the supporting cast think he's hot so the audience can tell that he's hot" (tropes that the comics industry does often with their opposite-sex casts e.g. "all the boys want her" "all the girls want him") and fulfils the "The LI only has eyes for the FL when he inevitably rejects the side character" trope. So if my assumptions are correct I can see it from a "comic writer" point of view even if it doesn't make total sense as a reader.

No. 2553877

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>>2553830
It's a shame, her design has so much potential. I actually think >>2553529 could be cute if it god rid of that corset that makes it look like the circulation of her boobs are being cut off and a petticoat underneath her skirt. Much cuter and comfier
>>2553848
>i’m sure you enjoy your male ryona abuse yaoi femdom or whatever
Is this supposed to be a bad thing? NTA but my self esteem isn't low enough to the point where I have to project onto a monster titted woman who look like they have surgery done every month. If you are a fan of moid tier shit like SI having giant tits to show that she's the "superior" woman like >>2553743 said I'm just gonna asssume you're a pickme with cripplingly a cripplingly low self image.

No. 2553893

>>2553877
I don't really understand why people are so sad about Sonico's "wasted potential" because she looks like every other pink-haired waifu (Luka from Vocaloid is right there if you want a music-themed one) but I agree with the overall point kek. I've noticed that these anons always start sperging about muh ryona femdom out of nowhere when manwha tropes are mildly criticised. >>2553743 is obviously written by an unbiased nonnie who read the story and gave it a fair shot, so I'm not sure why >>2553848 is so upset.

No. 2553901

>>2553540
I legitimately think some anons are in denial at this point kek

No. 2554028

>>2553848
? You don't have to be into extreme content to not enjoy stories like Tears on a Withered Flower.

No. 2554065

>>2553529
This thing is a crime against fashion.

No. 2554066

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>>2553491
>the mullet is stopping Solid Snake from being attractive
Nonna I'm ready to have a sonico boob level of intensity when I argue that it's more than that fuck ass mullet that is the problem

No. 2554079

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Killing Stalking got mentioned itt and we're on manwha discussion now so I'm finally going to ask: what if your honest god opinion on this and did you enjoy it?

No. 2554091

>>2554079
It was comedy gold.

No. 2554093

>>2554079
This may seem mean but I read it as a comedy and the ending made me laugh really fucking hard. The mc was too ridiculous looking for me to take seriously (how old was he supposed to be anyway? 30? His cheeks were so chubby but his body so anorexic, and I was hoping the seme would bottom so that felt like a waste. The seme seriously gets smothered to death with a pillow by an old lady because he wouldn't shut the fuck up, how is that not meant to be funny?
I think I also felt bad for the glasses guy.

No. 2554095

>>2554079
I never read it because I don't like the artstyle but I thought it was obnoxious how people kept bringing it up like it's the most evil thing created.

No. 2554109

File: 1749400623361.gif (52.39 KB, 220x293, 1000035293.gif)

Genuinely can't tell if lost Kiwifags or lost Twitterfags itt
>>2554079
I read it like it was a soap opera and loved it, it was so entertaining. Sangwoo was such a delightfully over-the-top villain and I'll admit I was got quite interested in learning his backstory. The part where he claimed he assaulted the cop because "I thought he was Yoon Bum's ex boyfriend!!!!" made me laugh so hard, how the fuck did he get away with that

No. 2554156

>>2554079
Thought it was funny as hell, and didn't stop reading it until the end when I first discovered it. Didn't the creator say that Sangwoo isn't even gay, and was horny for Yoonbum because his mind was actually attracted to the thoughts and memories of his mother? I think the mommy issues being a motive for holding Yoonbim hostage isn't stupid, but it's like come on just say he's a faggot.

No. 2554168

>>2554156
Ayrt I interpreted that as her trying to reinvent the concept of omegaverse into something more realistic. He's straight but the seme is so special and cherished he became gay instead of an alpha ditching his wife to be with his true omega butt slave

No. 2554193

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>>2554079
Stopped reading at the end of the first season because I knew it peaked at that. I also bought the entire thing legally on Lezhin when it was on discount so I have full access to HD image quality with high quality eng translations kek yet I've never made use of it. The type of greed they talk about in the bible etc.

No. 2554199

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>>2554066
I mentioned the mullet because MGS5 is the most realistic looking game, Snake is Big Boss' clone and Big Boss in MGS5 doesn't look too bad for a middle aged white man because for some reason he's not hafu anymore? I don't get this plot point but whatever aside from the hideous mullet. It's especially true with how he looks in the MGS3 remake trailers where he's in his late 20s or early 30s. Obviously Snake looks less realistic in MGS2 because of the limitations of the PS2 and he looks better as Pliskin, his bandana gives him a very unflattering resting bitch face. Snake as a young adult looks like this so we'll never know his true potential.

No. 2554205

>>2554079
it peaked when they were brought in for questioning and i think the ending was strange and rushed. i also find the art hideous now but i didnt mind it at the time.

No. 2554208

>>2554079
I read it because it got mentioned on tumblr as this extremely evil extreme comic, found it boring and corny and dropped it a couple chapters in.

No. 2554257

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can anyone who's more in tune with cn/jp/kr/non english speaking fandoms confirm if they're also troon obsessed? i never see tit chop scars, and cuntboy content is always buried under a thousand cw warnings, but i can't actually speak the language so i don't know how the politics are over there.

No. 2554259

>>2554079
overhyped shite

No. 2554261

>>2554257
no its extremely rare, mostly its the koreans and rarely the others. it mostly depends on who you follow, 99% of them dont give a shit

No. 2554263

>>2554079
Got bored of it and dropped it, I never felt very invested in the characters. Like other anons said, it peaked early on. It's also not really my thing. I'll read edgy BL if it's recommended to me, but my favorite BL tends to be more slice-of-life, character study stuff.

No. 2554268

>>2553538
I'd argue it's more cucked to be so insecure in your own appearance that you have to self insert as a male-gaze-centric character like Super Sonico. Is that not basically an admission that you'd have to have a giant butt, cartoonishly large boobs, and the face of an alien baby to be sexually appealing?

No. 2554270

>>2553529
Maybe we're being brigaded by Addy fans kek

No. 2554271

>>2554257
I’m most familiar with JP fandoms and troonery is basically nonexistent in fandom outside of a small handful of canon trans characters, and even then JP fans tend to treat those as crossdressers lol. The most you usually see is furanari or cuntboy, or genderless characters since JP doesn’t need to use he/she like English does.
The female side of JP fandom tends to be very strict about fanworks that contradict the canon series, ie NSFW, non-canon shipping fanart, AUs, etc, and a lot of JP fans will avoid tagging/using searchable names for that kind of fancontent the first place, or hide it on poipiku/other private sites. A lot of JP fans consider drawing fanart of characters with pride flags to be disrespectful to the original author as well since it’s not like the author has given approval of their characters supporting lgb or tq rights. JP fandom just doesn’t have the climate for troon HCs to take off.

No. 2554279

>>2552599
Not to PL or whatever but I'm 106 lbs and I have D cups, but body-wise I look NOTHING like the average anime character described as having those attributes. In fact I'm pretty sure people would consider me bricky. The people saying "zomg I look just like Nami from One Piece" have troon levels of delusion about their bodies.

No. 2554281

>>2554271
Ngl I never considered the Japanese autism for copyright protection in relation to trans fan art but it does make sense.

No. 2554286

>>2554271
NTAYRT but that’s interesting, meanwhile I feel like on most english speaking social media websites you can find canon and non canon ships in the same areas. Sure people may complain but they’re still allowed to exist. I guess America prioritizes this kinda thing less (which is funny considering most people pirate manga + anime but even with easy access to the media they’re still misinterpreting it).

No. 2554309

>>2554279
So you're less than 110 pounds and you have double ds, but you don't look like this? >>2553389
You're making me feel like a pervert trying to imagine what a "bricky" 106lb woman with double ds even looks like.

No. 2554310

>>2554257
should further specify that i'm not just looking for info on east asian fandoms, anywhere that isn't the western us is fine. i feel like latina girlies aren't sucking troon dick either

No. 2554312

>>2554309
NTAYRT but double ds on a skinny frame are pretty small in comparison to double ds on a fat one. Mines are ds and they fit in my hand. Some people just don't understand boob sizing. The character in >>2553389 has way bigger than e cup boobs for having a binding that small.

No. 2554313

>>2554310
>i feel like latina girlies aren't sucking troon dick either
they definitely do kek + americanized SEAsians are very common online

No. 2554316

File: 1749408196729.webp (48.44 KB, 827x652, MGS2OtaconPP.webp)

>>2554199
Everyone in MGS2 is hot I feel. I think Snake is ugly as fuck but I was even able to find him a little attractive as Pliskin even if he's not my type. Otacon and Raiden were peak sex as well. Also had best story, least amount of female coomershit, and most fun gameplay. Best MGS game and it's not even close.

No. 2554317

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>>2554279
Anyone who actually looks like Nami from One Piece should be studied in a lab

No. 2554318

File: 1749408211500.jpg (385.21 KB, 586x799, 1735012091122.jpg)

>>2554279
>The people saying "zomg I look just like Nami from One Piece" have troon levels of delusion about their bodies.
The post really is about that delusion. It's like how some petite women think they look like lolis.

No. 2554322

>>2554318
Not to sound like a perv but she literally has the thighs of an adult woman. I understand why loli can boost a small-chested woman's self esteem as someone who has had those sorts of issues, but these women who think they're IRL lolis are literally adult women with curves.

No. 2554328

>>2554318
This is besides the point that she’s admitting she has an adult body type and is trying to defend it being on a child… (even tho like you said there’s a difference between the two)

No. 2554331

>>2554322
Tbf there's a lot of loli that have adult thighs slapped on them. But yeah, some women are just blind. Like she very clearly looks post-puberty and not like a literal preschooler.

No. 2554332

>>2554318
tf is wrong with these people, you can't even tell what kind of body type she has with that blurry ass fully covered picture. Truly delusional.

No. 2554341

File: 1749409240555.jpg (60.97 KB, 768x1024, 1697874526478.jpg)

>>2554312
>double ds on a skinny frame are pretty small in comparison to double ds on a fat one. Mines are ds and they fit in my hand.
Now I'm confused. So double d boobs can be small enough to fit into your hand? So if double ds on a small woman can fit into her palms with no problem, I guess I'm somehow double d myself and the skinny worker I saw at my job with enormous boobs actually has z cups or something.(derailing)

No. 2554343

>>2554318
this vtumour bitch is such lolcow material kek pretending shes a "uwu smol loli!!" while having a bloated ass face >>>/w/350155 she also dicksucks pedo moid vtweeters (twitter accounts that pretend to be vtubers despite not streaming) all the time irc she was also friends with bittycat the one who did a asmr rape play where she masturbated to cp it was a audio of a baby crying and her doing some anime porn shit and also housed a actual convicted pedophile

No. 2554345

>>2554341
Honestly it's a meme that DD cups are super huge. They can look big on some women and small on others.

No. 2554351

>>2554318
Kek the way she cropped out her head that would instantly give away that she has adult proportions
>>2554341
Breast size is more than just the cup, the band size is equally important. 38DD will be much larger than a 32DD.

No. 2554352

>>2554271
>A lot of JP fans consider drawing fanart of characters with pride flags to be disrespectful to the original author as well since it’s not like the author has given approval of their characters supporting lgb or tq rights.
Outside of a few moids being autistic about this, I never really see this sentiment in jp fandom at all.

No. 2554356

I find it hard to believe anyone has a problem with seeing large-breasted women in anime or other media because they obviously exist in real life. The problem is they're almost always drawn in a sexualized way because men can't stop themselves. It doesn't have to do with having a small waist either, there are real life women with small waists and big boobs, just look at Marina. Plenty of women have thicker thighs, butt, and hips, and can tell when a female design is simply a woman with a bigger lower half and when the artist is sexualizing it. If there's a lot of emphasis on overflow or jiggling or drawing the body part in detail or making it just huge in relation to the rest of the body, you can tell that someone is getting off on it. Unfortunately male artists seem incapable of just depicting a normal woman with big boobs without also making her breast boobily everywhere. I would hope female artists can at least have more variety but nowadays you can't be sure anymore.

>>2554341
D cup just means you have a 4 inch difference between bust and underbust measurement, but the shape of the boobs really affects how 'big' they look. For most women, D-cup or even DD isn't some comically large size like men think. A lot of women also wear the wrong size or use an outdated bra sizing method. That being said I don't know if double Ds on a small frame will appear "pretty small".

No. 2554387

File: 1749411336360.png (403.5 KB, 527x871, 93872479284324.png)

Pseudo intellectual moid can't use his abstract reasoning skills to deduce why this might be the case

No. 2554391

>>2554387
Not a gacha player so I don't fully understand, can you explain what's going on?

No. 2554392

>>2554387
>SenseiAnother
Of course.

No. 2554397

>>2554391
He doesn't understand that a majority of gacha gamers are troons and are therefore not interested in moid designs, and for some reason he thinks male representation in gacha is important

No. 2554399

>>2554079
Should've fucked more

No. 2554405

>>2554079
I laughed while reading it and read like a soap opera horror movie. I can't take anyone who moralspergs over it seriously, it's like crying over Saw movies

No. 2554455

>>2554271
>A lot of JP fans consider drawing fanart of characters with pride flags to be disrespectful to the original author as well since it’s not like the author has given approval of their characters supporting lgb or tq rights
I actually saw some Japanese artist on my TL posting something like "why are foreigners drawing characters with flags now? It's weird" in reference to pride month. I've seen plenty of Japanese TRA but they're still a tiny minority and almost always westboos talking about real life issues and maybe sometimes talking about representation in media as a whole. The Japanese artists I see drawing their favorite male characters as cuntboys are the type of fujoshi who are so obsessed with their ships they come up with as many AUs as possible and don't talk about anything trans at all.

>>2554316
MGS2 has Olga so it's automatically a good game. By the way I'm still disappointed we'll never have a game about Raiden saving Sunny while she's still a baby.

No. 2554648

>>2550066
i'm more offended by bad representation, like stereotypical tropes or "woke" rewrites/raceswaps. I think americans got it right in the late 1990s/2000s and then lost the ability to write decent black female charterers come the smartphone era

No. 2554731

>>2554648
Remind me of this recent kerfuffle over a game about black people stealing back artifacts from museums.
Why would you make a game about that when people will make the obvious take on it? Seriously, just look at the comments.

No. 2554732

>>2554309
Bone structure. I have really prominent hip dips and a short torso. And like another anon said, cup sizes can look very different depending on your body type, the shape of your ribcage, etc.

No. 2554734

>>2554310
I know multiple Latinas who pooned out

No. 2554753

>>2554310
>>2554734
same, most commonly from gendie bullshit on the internet + being an nlog + being a kpoper fujo who ships the members of the groups they listen to and always want to look like them

No. 2554762

>>2554753
The ones I knew had conservative, Catholic parents and were really into Tumblr fandoms like Homestuck and Steven Universe

No. 2554776

>>2554079
It's alright, the 3D models are pretty fucking ugly looking and you can tell she was running out of steam at the end but it's one of the only BL manhwa I was actually able to sit through and read.

No. 2554782

>>2553624
MW is a game for babies who think they are deep lore people. They'd never even get a complex game like IHNMBIMS. It's such a fucked up game.

No. 2554785

>>2554079
I really enjoyed it at the beginning, but the art got worse and worse. I think it was a xmas chapter where the entire background was just real life images slightly blurred instead of drawn stuff. Also, there was so much clip art, it was crazy. I had a good time with it.

No. 2554789

>>2554193
Would you ever be willing upload to a google drive or something? I'd love to re-read it with HD quality images.

No. 2554808

File: 1749425106909.gif (44.58 KB, 300x411, chara_olga.gif)

>>2554455
Olga is such a damn badass. I love her

No. 2554840

File: 1749426727295.jpg (31.89 KB, 735x646, 1000075293.jpg)

>>2554789
Ayrt, I have never done that before but I will learn how just for you nonna. It will take a while because there are 68 chapters to upload but I will include the q&a and extra bonuses that bring up to 78. Please look forward to it.

No. 2554851

>>2553743
I couldnt get into this because of the way the mc is drawn, so distracting and moid-ish

No. 2554865

File: 1749427781883.jpg (168.71 KB, 736x920, 1726712799827.jpg)

>>2554782
A thorn in MW's fanbase is how immature they are. They went through that meme where you censor Jimmy's name because he's such a piece of shit and everyone hates him, but that's so retarded. Even as a meme, it's retarded because it demonstrates the implied inability for fans to properly discuss Jimmy because he's the antagonist. This gets amusing when you consider that despite Jimmy being a narcissistic, sociopathic, misogynistic, cannibalistic rapist, he still gets mogged by any other game antagonist if we're talking about evil. William Afton from FNaF is a child murderer who killed at LEAST six children. William is objectively more evil than Jimmy, yet nobody censors William's name because despite William being the bad guy, Fnafags get more serious when they try to talk about the characters and wtf is going on in the plot. Fucking Fnafags are more mature than Mouthwashingfags. Let that sink in.

No. 2554888

>>2554865
Discussing murder and sexual assault in fiction are two different things nona the latter can be encouraged by said media if it depicts it as something that has no consequences.

No. 2554923

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>>2554888
Anon, what? You know what? I disagree you. MWfags censoring Jimmy's name arguably contradicts the narrative the game was trying to make about how to respond to sexual assault cases. If you can't mature to discuss sexual assault, the drastic effects it has, the nature around it, and what kind of people commit it, that's pretty much being like Curly because we know him to be a fence-sitter who would rather "pacify" the subject instead of actually confronting it just to make "everyone comfortable". The devs outright say that Curly was in the wrong for not communicating with Anya enough. For not doing something about the situation enough. For not fighting Jimmy's influence enough. The game acts as a criticism on rape culture, including the aspect where people would rather just avoid confronting it even in conversation. When you avoid talking about Jimmy, and avoid talking about the sexual assault when it's time to discuss MW, you are (in a sense) being a coward just like how Curly was. And as for your point, what kind of point even is that? Can't you say the same about murder in that case? And why are we blaming media for faggots chimping out IRL? Come on, anon.

No. 2554973

>>2554923
>point out discussing rape and murder is different
>you're being a coward!! This game is a criticism on rape culture (ah yes I suppose that's also why the devs are ok with rapeporn of anya the rape victim)
?? You seem to on par with the same reading comprehension and intellect with the moutheashing fags you are seething about, also have you just considered that majority of that fanbase is underaged? Thus avoids wording out uncomfortable topics?(infighting)

No. 2554983

>>2554888
i feel like people who write about rape and murder are always weirdos irl. i would avoid them just like i would avoid true crime fags tbh.

No. 2554993

im a zeldafag but i hate how you're expected to love and ship ganon as a zelda fan. hes hideous and repulsive.

No. 2554996

>>2554318
>no one
>absolutely not a soul
>pedobaiter: posts obvious pedobaiting image and engages in vtuber lolislop for pedophilic males attention UHM HOW DATE YOU ACCUSE ME OF BEING A PEDOBAITER? MAYBE YOUR MIND IS JUST SICK!

No. 2554999

>>2554343
thank you for this nona. she's a longtime pedobaiter. where there's smoke, there's always fire.

No. 2555001

>>2554279
ok but nobody asked, brick-chan.

No. 2555006

>>2553743
>>2553786
The entire point of anime is that it isn't supposed to be realistic. I can't believe there are still idiots screeching 'MAKE THE CHARACTERS UGLIER AND MORE REALISTIC!' Please go back to tumblr and enjoy your ugly inclusivity art, some of us just want to look at pretty drawings.

No. 2555022

>>2555006
>pretty drawings
>ugly ass alien proportions
Ok, sure.

No. 2555030

>>2555006
It’s always Americans and woke western Eurofags complaining about characters being too sexy. You never hear Japanese or Koreans complaining about it. Westoid wokies just want to force their aggressive ugliness fetish on everyone else. They aren’t happy until obese women with tiny boobs are on all the billboards. I hate this plague of one way body positivity freaks who seethe at characters with good bodies only.(bait)

No. 2555048

>>2554731
What's the alternative? Never writing a heist story involving a black person because racist will make racist jokes about it? Gamers literally blow their lid any time they see a black person in games nowadays, so your damned if you do or don't at this point, might as well make the game you want to make.

Like look at this comments that was also announced on the xbox stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgQfJcipx4U&ab_channel=IGN

And you'll see different manners of, "fatigue" dogwhistles, "Dei", "Woke", racial comments. I guess you can't have black women in space either.

No. 2555054

>>2554271
> A lot of JP fans consider drawing fanart of characters with pride flags to be disrespectful to the original author as well since it’s not like the author has given approval of their characters supporting lgb or tq rights.
That's disrespectful, but not drawing a character with an A-cup with Triple Hs, or porn of underage characters? Flags? Really?

No. 2555056

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>>2554973
>point out that discussion rape and murder is different
Yeah, by essentially blaming video games for when scrotes rape people, and not even differentiating how "video games bad because rape" is any different of an argument boomers use when they say "video games bad because murder".
>you're being a coward!! This game is a criticism on rape culture (ah yes I suppose that's also why the devs are ok with rapeporn of anya the rape victim)
Are you talking about the devs telling antis to calm down and not send people death threats over dumbass shit like Jimanya? How is telling people to not send death threats the same with fetishizing rape? Jfc, grow up.
>?? You seem to on par with the same reading comprehension and intellect with the moutheashing fags you are seething about
You want to insult my intellect and reading comprehension? When you're the butthurt fag who couldn't even argue how talking about murder is drastically different than talking about rape, blames video games like a boomer, and thinks telling people not to alog is the same as being a rape fetishist? You are a retard, you don't understand the game you're defending, and no amount of "zomg you're immature just like them" is going to magically trick me into believing that you're some high IQ intellect on video games and "muh comprehension" when you come across as a fag who needs TV Tropes to walk you through anything you find. Nice job avoiding the point of what I'm saying by the way, that censoring Jimmy's name goes against the narrative the game is trying to tell the audience. Amazing debating skills coming from a person who so knows wtf they're on about.
>also have you just considered that majority of that fanbase is underaged? Thus avoids wording out uncomfortable topics?
Then guess what? Maybe they shouldn't be playing the game if the topic is too serious for their age? Fandoms shouldn't cater to children if the source material isn't designed for children as the audience but for a person who swears that I lack intellect, it's strange that I have to be the one to explain this. And by the way, you specifically said
>the latter can be encouraged by said media if it depicts it as something that has no consequences.
This is how I know you most definitely never even played the game despite defending the fanbase so hard, because the direct consequence of Jimmy assaulting Anya was Anya becoming pregnant, realizing that he wouldn't escape responsibility since they're in the middle of space on a mission that will take at least nine months, with living evidence of what he did to her–followed by trying to crash the ship, which then led to everyone's suffering and death. So Mouthwashing does depict Jimmy's actions being followed by the consequence of his inability to be a responsible human being. So tell me why you're acting like it's so hard to discuss MW's sexual assault if the game makes it very clear that what Jimmy did was not just disgusting, but the whole reason for why the game's plot takes place? You need to simply admit that you are too immature to talk about characters in a productive way, too immature or even just stupid to figure out what the story is trying to tell its audience, too immature and definitely retarded to confront discussions about sexual assault if you have to blame video games for why scrotes do it in the real world, utter lacking in nuance for thinking the devs are okay with rape porn for just disagreeing at antis sending death threats at anything that makes them uncomfortable, and bluntly the wrong type of "fan" to be in any fandom if you think watering down discussions just so all lurking children will be more comfortable in a space that isn't meant for their entertainment is going to do wonders for the audience the media is actually meant for.
In short, you are exactly the kind of imbecile I was talking about when I decided to shit on MW's fandom. The kind of "fan" who likely never even watched a gameplay and has the gall to talk about "muh media literacy" at anyone who makes them mildly upset about it.(infighting)

No. 2555060

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>>2555006
Do you watch anything that isnt moeblob kyoani shit? ugly anime characters are dime a dozen.

No. 2555066

>>2555030
Nta and I actually love that webtoon that those anons are shittalking about, but even I can agree that her boobs are unrealistically ginormous kek. Those nonnas don't want landwhales, anon, they want normier sexy-looking women.

No. 2555067

>>2555060
the irony is so many women on this site fawn over hideous anime moids while bashing the pretty female characters

No. 2555068

>>2555066
the moid isnt meant to be realistic either, dumdum
>>2553526

No. 2555071

>>2555067
>pretty
sonicoom isnt pretty

No. 2555073

>>2555068
I know kek. I have read the whole webtoon like 3 times and enjoyed every chapter. I actually think the FL and ML are hot.

No. 2555077

>>2553526
Anyone who reads webtoons is mentally challenged and suffers from arrested development. Its like anyone over 18 who reads YA books. Their opinion doesn't matter just like how the opinion of a mcu watcher on media doesnt matter.(bait)

No. 2555079

>>2555071
is sonico in the room with us right now nona? are you shaking and crying?

No. 2555080

>>2555077
So you didnt even watch it but are chipping in with your two cents? Retard moment.(infighting)

No. 2555082

>>2555079
The irony of writing this while vehemently defending ugly coom characters topkek

No. 2555084

>>2555080
I dont need to read it, just the art alone is hideous. The artists are lazy and untalented and the format is for adhd ridden zoomies that get filtered by manga because it doesnt hand hold them.

No. 2555086

>>2555082
If she's ugly then how can she be a popular coom character?

No. 2555088

>>2555084
No I can tell you are just one of those 'I hate Koreans' gatekeepers who dismiss all Korean media on behalf of muh glorious Nippon.

No. 2555089

File: 1749436574202.jpg (41.95 KB, 720x459, 1000077755.jpg)

I actually think webtoons are easily digestible fun after a hard day.(derailing)

No. 2555091

>>2555089
i agree nona. the haters are just miserable and have no whimsy.

No. 2555093

>>2555091
♥ nona in arms

No. 2555094

>>2555088
And thats wrong because? if you want to be treated like a retard so do you, but i wont read something done by lazy artists that disrespect their viewers and think they deserve shitty lazy art with non-existent backgrounds. Manga artists actually sacrifice themselves for their manga and i can respect that.

No. 2555106

>everyone is still screeching about anime titties
>im a bifag so i love both bishies and anime girls with all tit sizes, including the giant ones
why cant we all just get along?

No. 2555108

>>2554731
The premise is fine, more than fine even. The people bitching the most are seething racists going "noooo you can't steal back things that were stolen, that makes you a thief!!!" and blatantly ignoring that it's a self-own. The problem is the game itself looks like Fortnite.

No. 2555113

File: 1749437946628.png (1.71 MB, 1265x924, ss.png)

>>2555106
It's just someone forcing the argument again. Most women do not care about the boob size unless they're drawn stupidly.

No. 2555126

>>2555106
>im a bifag so i love screeching about how cool and enlightened i am for cooming to absolutely everything
why can't you keep this boring shit to yourself?

No. 2555151

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No. 2555921

>>2555048
Exception to this is Half-Life: Alyx (there are still a few annoyed racists, but they’re drowned out by the excited gamers). Maybe because Alyx has been a character in the Half-Life franchise since the early 2000s?

No. 2556183

The way zoomer girls on twitter call themselves "lesbian" while simultaneously husbandofagging and thirsting over clearly male characters isn't talked about enough. I see this in every fandom that's popular with women. Straight women need to stop being afraid of their sexuality so they don't feel the need to put a safe distance between them and the males they are attracted to like this

No. 2556197

>>2556183
I blame this on weirdos on who keep claiming fandom is inherently queer.

No. 2556210

>>2552599
when pickme disease becomes terminal

No. 2556229

>>2553341
I’m one of the ayrt so we’re not all the same anon. tbh I just like calling people fat kek
>>2555077
>>2555084
>>2555094
based and true
>>2555126
it’s the bisexual need to be the most annoying person in the room

No. 2556430

File: 1749507572411.jpg (516.27 KB, 1079x2011, r0kFv0g.jpg)

Mouthwashing fans are asking for a plushie for the rapist and ugly old guy.

No. 2556434

>>2556197
Women should coom over hot men only. It's crazy even in fantasies people give ugly male characters a chance and lower their standards for 2d scrotes

No. 2556464

>>2556229
The anon you’re replying to is a mentally ill probable troon who seethes over flat and Asian women. He had a melty in UMP and unpopular opinions a few hours ago over these respective topics(scrotefoiling)

No. 2556496

>>2556430
If you are seriously asking for Jimmy as a cute cuddly cat plushie, you are a piece of shit, period. I hate the idiots in the mouth washing fandom

No. 2556525

>>2556430
This is blackpilling

No. 2556550

>>2556430
swansea cat would be funny, it should be a really fat cat

No. 2556556

File: 1749511903313.jpeg (192.83 KB, 800x525, IMG_2394.jpeg)

>>2553624
I adore IHNMaIMS, but its existing fanbase also has its fair share of people who refuse or fail to engage with the story in one way or another (either because they are MeDiA LiTeRaCy pseuds or braindead yumes). It's become especially noticeable after a bunch of AM's voice lines went viral on TikTok around a year ago. Mouthwashing basically was a more palatable remix of I Have No Mouth for zoom zooms
Please, tell me I'm not the only one who DESTESTS the idea of Gooseworx potentially directing an adaptation. The guy not only has a completely disparate art style that would clash with everything the story stands for, but also proves time and time again to not understand IHNMaIMS at all. I cringe anytime I come across some secondary fan glazing him in the same vein retards want Hunter Schafer casted as Zelda.

No. 2556558

>>2553389
>>2553743
I think it’s mainly the broken anatomy that makes it give gooner vibes. I’ve seen literal hentai mangaka with a better understanding of anatomy

No. 2556562

>>2556556
>IHNMAIMS yumes
For who? AM? I loved the short story and I had no idea zoomers were into it. Is it because of the old ass game kek

No. 2556591

>>2556562
Essentially. And to be fair, AM is arguably one of my favorite characters in general. The short story might be very well-known, but the game is iconic and where a lot of the popular imagery comes from.

No. 2557973

>>2554734
>>2554753
>>2554762
Kekk nonas are you me? Tumblr, Vocaloid, porn addiction, ultra-catholic guilt. These young hispanic women are in an epidemic.

No. 2558061

File: 1749589229085.gif (1.15 MB, 1152x648, the (fe)male gaze.gif)

>some fagtard under this post"the female gaze!"
>the "woman" in question
as if the company wasnt being retarded i have to bear with these faggots too in my only female targeted gacha fandom, i wish i could block all western troons from this game

No. 2558065

File: 1749589570925.jpg (40.61 KB, 774x173, kek.jpg)

>>2558061
also seeth and mald troon kek

No. 2558152

>>2558061
They've infected the Style Savvy subreddit too! I hate troons. I hate them so much.

No. 2558186

File: 1749594270867.jpeg (59.93 KB, 600x784, 1629627252239.jpeg)

I'm starting to wonder if I'm too old for fandom shit at this point. The constant crash outs over absolutely nothing and trannies everywhere is fucking ridiculous.

No. 2558189

>>2555086
Are you retarded? Moids have the most egregious tastes, have you ever seen and bad fetish art thread on /m/? Don't make me tap the sign

No. 2558516

File: 1749609130764.jpg (69.62 KB, 751x1024, 1726999671345.jpg)

>>2555151
>starts dumb argument on imageboard
>an online space meant for discussion
>BTFO'd because you had a terrible argument
>"uh uh I can't read! Hah!"
>twitter humor meme
Everytime. And zoomers wonder why everyone thinks they're retarded and tells them to go back to normie socials. Why are you even here? Kys faggot kek(infighting)

No. 2558518

>>2558186
I can already feel myself getting too old but my life is boring as it is already and I'm too ill for normal hobbies, so fandom it is.

No. 2558525

>>2556430
making cat plushes of something thats meant to be taken seriously is honestly so cringe

No. 2558590

>>2558525
they have gotten their 15 minutes of fame and are going to milk it regardless of dignity or shame.

No. 2558738

>>2558186
I'm the same, nonna. There has always been a crazy side to fandom, but it feels like it's been dialled up to 100 in the past few years. I can't stand the constant fighting over the most pathetic non-issues, the pros vs. antis, the idiotic trans headcanons. I've even come to dislike shipping because people are boring and only want to ship "canon ships" nowadays.

I have other interests too, but I just like writing fanfic and sperging about my favourite characters. I just wish there were still normal people to be found online with which to fangirl with.

No. 2558976

>>2554993
Agree I hate how all the straight women/tifs want me to be as obsessed with roidpigs as they are. I’m not a furry either, so looking at a certain husbando of theirs is no different to looking at a concrete wall for me. I’m not a fan of people’s moid-brained interpretations of characters like Purah either. Thank god for people like hazeleafy, diu and teopyon existing. It’s funny seeing some certain people be mad that their Link is a cute and loyal boy who only fucks Zelda and not the rapist std-riddled manwhore version of theirs they like to insist is canon

No. 2558977

>>2558061
Every single time, without fail kek

No. 2558980

>>2558976
>straight women
As a straight woman myself, gandalf ain't my type. Just call them pickmes/nlogs tbh.

No. 2558995

>>2558738
The fixation with stuff being canon really just boils down to wanting validation for being "right."

No. 2559367

File: 1749669860384.png (1008.75 KB, 1291x532, VF5WAAI4sv1.png)

is this the dudebros version of fanfic

No. 2559410

>>2559367
>power level autism AND lore autism
Definitely.

No. 2559456

>>2558186
I miss the actually insane and autistic fandom shit like the Johnlock Conspiracy or Snapewives, it's just so boring these days.

No. 2559512

>>2559367
More or less? Lmao.

No. 2559845

Well, with that husbando I don't think she ever has to worry about "Sharing"

No. 2559847

>>2559367
Powerscaling is literally just moid shipping

No. 2560188

File: 1749710333916.jpg (467.16 KB, 1752x1205, 1749701798141.jpg)

From the bad art thread. I'm sorry but antis are just as cringe and retarded as proshippers and I'm tired of pretending that they're not. The problem I have with this whole debate is why are typical 2012 tumblr fandom things and women who still yume the husbandos they've had since they were like 15 forceteamed with genuine scroteshit. I enjoy some problematic things in fiction while other things obviously disgust me? Is that not how it is for most people? Why does it have to be an all or nothing thing?

No. 2560223

>>2560188
>Anti is commiting m#rder and v#olence
Whoever drew this is a literal deranged killer who should be in jail(self censoring newfag)

No. 2560378

>>2560188
Why are they dressed like nazis

No. 2560404

>>2560188
Why do tiktok artists add this retarded dot filter? It's annoying and looks out of place

No. 2560405

>>2560188
what a shitty design, it looks like it's saying 'antøi'

No. 2560414

File: 1749731125786.png (1.38 MB, 1179x2556, IMG_5845.png)

>>2560188
This TIF is so unbelievably cringe. She’s also psyoped to high hell and calls this thing “conventionally attractive”, definitely pushes it onto other women as well.
>>2560378
Weren’t they pretty pro censorship? Sounds about right

No. 2560416

File: 1749731268103.png (820.95 KB, 1179x2556, IMG_5843.png)

>>2560414
Samefag, it’s really funny how hard they try to make it seem like they’re a totally cis dude when their strawpage is the most “TIF imitating what she thinks scrotes are like which in turn makes her look more female” thing ever.

No. 2560419

>>2560414
Not to defend her bad taste but the text in your picrel means the OC isn't conventionally attractive

No. 2560420

File: 1749731364811.jpg (260.15 KB, 1224x2048, 1749473540555.jpg)

>>2560414
>>2560188
She also made this mascot

No. 2560422

>>2560416
KEKKKK the silhouetted "sexy woman" pose in an attempt to copy coomer moids. Meanwhile, real moids just plaster their whole pages in waifus wearing string bikinis.

No. 2560423

File: 1749731584741.png (1.52 MB, 1179x2556, IMG_5847.png)

>>2560419
This is the unattractive OC she was talking about
>>2560422
>implying moids have strawpages to begin with
Either way, I’ve never seen a single scrote care about anti/proship discourse and if they do they just shamelessly call themselves a proshipper while plastering loli hentai everywhere. Actually, caring that much about the subject is a great way of clocking TIFs.

No. 2560424

>>2560416
>clone high
>pro/anti stuff
That's all you really need to see to tell this a girl. Also what's with the pee stuff? Does she have a piss kink?

No. 2560428

>>2560424
It could be a fetish, but many TIFs name themselves after gross stuff in an "ironic" attempt to be funny and because prissy normie girls don't like it.

No. 2560434

>>2560420
>antishipper
>likes the sopranos, clone high and breaking bad/better call saul
Its funny because they are never into cutesy media like monster high, shoujo or mlp they are always into edgy franchises that go against what they preach.

No. 2560441

File: 1749732613759.gif (3.71 MB, 640x356, IMG_9112.gif)

>>2560416
the undercover NSA agent when he sees "feds DNI"

No. 2560442

>>2560423
>if they do they just shamelessly call themselves a proshipper while plastering loli hentai everywhere
I think there's also a small amount of moids that call themselves antis, but they have their face posted online and are usually outed as pedos down the line.

No. 2560446

>>2560442
Can anyone explain this phenomenon? This is the case with the few male antis I see as well

No. 2560449

File: 1749732933392.png (56.74 KB, 625x605, 1000037099.png)

>>2560434
>Monster High
I know we joke about TIFs having girly interests here, but it's ironic because no moid was ever that into Clone High but there are actually quite a few gay men into Monster High and collecting the dolls, and MLP obviously had male fans
>>2560441
KEK
>>2560446
See picrel. I know Stonetoss is an irrelevant idiot but this comic is very true.

No. 2560451

File: 1749733012004.png (357.9 KB, 787x868, lol.png)

>>2560416
>look up website
>check out the twitter account
>she's 18
A legal adult acting like this is so bleak, also IMO the art is pretty shitty for an 18 y/o if you told me a 14 y/o drew this >>2560420 or these >>2560188 I'd believe you.

No. 2560453

>>2560446
Most likely due to the ease of access to children. Most, if not all, anti spaces are filled to the brim with children. I remember quite a few cases of discords specifically for antis that resulted in adult moids grooming the kids there.

No. 2560454

>>2560451
>mobsterfootjob
dear lord

No. 2560457

>>2560451
the way "free palestine" is sandwiched in between fandom crap and "hnnnng FEET" kek
they really don't mean anything by it

No. 2560459

File: 1749733673012.jpg (7.75 KB, 198x275, 1677480752957.jpg)

>>2560453
This is absolutely true but also I wanna be fair and say I've noticed proship spaces are also filled with kids and groomers. If you look up "#proshiptwt" on twitter or sift through the replies on whatever tweet of their has gone viral you'll find tons of 14 year olds posting incest loli porn and being mutuals with adults. They often have pedo dog whistles like "anti-c" in their bio too which is concerning to me, because it implies there's so many open pedos in their spaces they have to go out of their way to specify they don't want anything to do with them even though for most people that's a given. Dedicating an account to this discourse in general is a red flag nonas watch your kids

No. 2560467

>>2560459
In general, any adult obsessed with pro/anti discourse is a red flag. For women, it shows arrested development and for men it means they are pedophiles. Although I do understand venting about pro/anti discourse because I've seen enough harassment for people to be annoyed with both sides. Antis will shit up your ao3 fanfic comments and pros will shit up your comment section if you post about being a "fence-sitter" on the issue.

No. 2560476

>>2560459
It makes me depressed that these kids being in these pedo spaces think they're being cool and "different" from other normal kids when they're only victimising themselves and being in danger even the antis are also putting themselves im harm by engaging with these (but atleast I can agree with them but I would rather these be adults than actual children saying not to sexualise animals and children)Children being in these spaces is how we get cows like fanny.

No. 2560479

>>2560476
Pro/anti discourse wasn't that popular when Fanny was under old alias

No. 2560486

>>2560479
I'm talking about the current echochamber she's in baraagirc another artcow tiffie who made rape porn of her own troon oc being detrooned also started in those spaces

No. 2560490

>>2560459
>They often have pedo dog whistles like "anti-c" in their bio too which is concerning to me, because it implies there's so many open pedos in their spaces
In the Shayna thread (of all places) this topic was briefly touched on a few years back. The dog whistle is "I do this to cope with trauma" (in reference to pro-ship media involving rape/pedo shit/incest). She resposted an underage incest kink twitter account named bunniecunt or something, and another nonnie pointed out that the account and all their mutual were minors larping this disgusting shit. They were all girls regularly interacting with adult moids larping as corpsehusband, and most of those interactions were oriented around Hannibal/normie husbandofagging/You/all the usual suspects when it comes to fandoms who are insanely perverse but use pro-ship to defend it by crying "I consume this and larp it as a coping mechanism for things that happened to me" from the girls, and the groomer moids sperging "this freak is bothering kids about their fandoms um pedo much?"

No. 2560503

File: 1749736767577.jpg (22.87 KB, 978x505, 327.jpg)

>>2560424
>Also what's with the pee stuff? Does she have a piss kink?
No, these people are fake pissfags and don't even know what omorashi is. They use it as a safe edgy aesthetic that isn't "problematic" but edgy enough to make them seem like they're not like other girls.

No. 2560587

File: 1749741556380.jpg (1.88 MB, 3264x2372, goj1.jpg)

alright so heres some good ole twitter drama that came across my TL, thought some anons might get a laugh out of it.
The story begins with this girl Rika accusing the artist Three of copying her friends band AU JJK concept

No. 2560589

File: 1749741648286.png (18.98 KB, 605x240, three1.png)

>>2560587
Three then fired back pointing out quite reasonably that no one owned the band AU concept, and 6 eyes is literally the most basic Gojo themed name you can get

No. 2560592

File: 1749742070729.png (185.96 KB, 553x938, three2.png)

>>2560589
Then the artist Pao shows up in the replies essentially saying pls delete bc feel bad for me uwu~ Unfortunately for Pao, Three's tweet dunking on them is sitting at 86k likes and pver 1 mil impressions as of now.

No. 2560600

>>2559367
>Dudebro

Damn, I remembered where liking Naruto was a wimpy nerd thing that got you bullied. Now it's the normiest anime ever.

No. 2560611

>>2560587
>>2560589
>>2560592
Sometimes I miss having a twitter account and being able to see all the retarded fandom drama going on. Also kek what's with unhinged fans acting like they own a fanfic concept? It's so obvious they never experienced Anne Rice-era fanfiction.

No. 2560682

>>2560503
idk anon these autists almost always have moidy fetishes i wouldnt put it past them

No. 2560874

>>2559367
No. This is using AI voiceover to read over fanfic published on FFN and Ao3. It IS fanfic, someone else's fanfic, repackaged and monetized.

No. 2560878

>>2560188
>I enjoy some problematic things in fiction while other things obviously disgust me? Is that not how it is for most people?
It is, which is why both these groups of people are extremely obnoxious and delusional. Wish they would stay in their own lane instead of shitting up places with their virtue signaling and "look how kinky I am" NLOGism.

No. 2560880

>>2560874
>monetized fanfic
Is that not illegal in most countries?

No. 2560886

>>2560880
Yes, but no one ever does anything about it. Most of the time the people who wrote the fanfic have no idea their fanfic was stolen and monetized for these videos.

No. 2560911

>>2560880
theyre trying to ban it in china (although i doubt it'll work ) since ao3 is banned there so scum are literally ripping sasugayXnarutard fics and selling it to the deprived chinese nona, it goes without saying always report them,

No. 2560926

If I have to read the words "you're doing so well" or "you're taking me so well" one more time I'm going to commit a crime

No. 2560963


No. 2560978

>>2560926
Real, why does this shit all sound the same

No. 2560983

>>2560926
this is how i find out whats trending among the kids. crack open a new fan fic like "ah, i see praise-kink is coming back in style" its so funny how fan fic has trends like how fashion does

No. 2561041

>>2560416
KEK non-TiM moids don't have DNIs, caards, or strawpages. They don't sperg about being anti/proship, they just post boobs and rape and loli all over Reddit and argue over who the most rapeable waifu is

No. 2561059

File: 1749764015511.png (229.6 KB, 592x490, Its_Not_That_Deep.png)

>>2556430
The company is probably just making profit-driven decisions and chose only to make merch of the characters that would sell well.

No. 2561077

>>2560587
Kek this is reminiscent of the kind of petty copying drama that used to happen on Deviantart back in the day. Imagine thinking you own the concept of using someone else's character in a rock band AU.

No. 2561082

>>2560911
How? Don't most Chinese watch video through Bilibili?

No. 2561096

File: 1749764959826.gif (1.73 MB, 640x534, 1000037237.gif)

>>2560926
I've developed a visceral reaction to the word "mine"

No. 2561100

>>2560416
it's the most tif thing ever to make an aesthetic bio page and name yourself piss or bean or sock. all of this reeks of irony poisoning and low self-esteem. do they actually think they're stealth?

No. 2561112

>>2560926
>>2561096
This is AI's fault

No. 2561171

After switching my main fandom from a male-dominated fanbase with an important female character who's a rape victim to a mixed gender (often leaning female in a lot of places) fanbse with an important male character who's a rape victim, I am once again disgusted by moids for the umpteenth time.
The amount of scrotes I've seen joke about and sexualize the backstory of the female character in question is absolutely revolting, especially since she was 7 years old at max when it happened to her. Don't even get me started on the amount of serial killer tier art Nip scrotes make of her where she's getting raped and tortured in disgusting ways, with pedophilic proportions that go far beyond the average lolislop art.
Compare this to the male character in question, where women woobify the fuck out of him and get mad at any other woman who dare joke about it or find it hot. Meanwhile, the scrote fans of the series do exactly that and they don't care about joking or sexualizing that shit among eachother.
The irony in all of this? What happened to the female is objectively worse than what happened to the male, considering she was sexually abused for nearly a year by multiple adult scrotes when she was a little kid. On the other hand, the male character got raped when he was a post-pubescent teenager and if anything probably found it hot himself. The two fandoms have very little overlap, so maybe I'm just comparing apples and oranges here but I have seen this pattern repeated across multiple fandoms. Scrotes have no empathy while women have it displaced.

No. 2561175

>>2561171
What fandom is it?

No. 2561318

>>2560592
Her friend really set her up kek I feel bad for her. Twitter callouts are a gamble but trying to get sympathy over such a generic idea being copied is stupid.

No. 2561388

>>2556430
no Swansea is an interesting choice. based to not have Jimmy plushies though

No. 2561406

>>2561112
No it isn't. Dirty talk in fic was cringe and subject to fads even before AI came into mainstream use.

No. 2561408

>>2561096
>>2560926
What do you guys consider to be non-cringe things for characters to say during sex. Asking for a friend kek

No. 2561954

>>2561408
NTA but I don't mind a lil talk sometimes but I mostly prefer internal dialogue and sounds over yelling weird profanities or cursed dirty talk. I think the praise talk should be refuse for the aftercare parts imo, maybe places that makes sense.

No. 2561966

>>2561408
I'd say just read more to figure out what you personally don't find cringe, it's pretty subjective. I like extremely explicit language but lots of people like it a bit more classy. Though I'd say for basic rules
>definitely avoid corny BDSM talk in any form
>less is more, anything they say should be brief and punchy
>excessive repetition (eg of swearwords) is annoying unless it's used sparingly for effect
>don't use capital letters to indicate volume, just describe it as loud

No. 2562147

>>2561954
But some characters would definitely talk during sex based on their personalities. Also talking is how you communicate what you're into. Humans aren't mind-readers, it wouldn't make sense for two characters to not talk at all during sex unless they'd had sex any times before and didn't need to communicate anything.

No. 2562177

File: 1749828027539.jpg (135.3 KB, 736x1308, 1000178511.jpg)

>>2562147
>>2561954
>>2561408
Considering most of us have never had sex, I think it only makes sense to one day consider what you yourself do while you masturbate, or if you actually have sex, add in your stories what you actually do while fucking which can't be the same as when you masturbate, and it has to be good somehow, right? Otherwise why would you have sex? Kek.
Like, idk, what you want to hear? I honestly always write in my personal fanfics and put in my fantasies stuff like the characters saying things such as how they feel (depending on the context) how much they like my character, describing sensations that are new to them (say, the character your character is fucking is an anime guy that has never touched someone in his life, everything will be new to him. Or the character is a guy that has never touched a woman like (you) and is surprised by how her body feels) or they say stuff they want the other to do like "Hey don't fucking Jack Hammer me" or "Not so fast buck-o".

No. 2562263

>>2561408
I like dirty talk, but if he calls the girl/reader things like bitch or slut it's a turn off.

No. 2562271

>>2560983
Praise kink is one of the most retarded made-up kinks istg. You can smell the virginity on the author when they use that tag

No. 2562283

>>2562271
To be fair, I'd take it over the even more retarded and virginal "dirty talk/degradation kink" tags kek. It's always either horrifying or hilarious, there's no in-between.

No. 2562645

>>2562271
i do think it's a retarded tag because it's really not a kink, but its a useful term i guess to distinguish that kind of sexual talk from dirty talk

No. 2562675

>>2562271
So virgins should never write about sex?

No. 2562712

>>2561408
Sometimes sex is a little cringe and that's fine, I think nonnas are just tired of the cookie cutter shit. My favourite porn dialogue is the kind that actually feels realistic for the characters to say and doesn't feel copy-pasted from 10000 other 'you're so good/you're taking me so well/look at you' 1-2-3 fingers then dick procedurally written porn fics. If a character isn't that eloquent outside of bed why are they suddenly so composed in it? Why is a character who isn't canonically vulgar suddenly throwing around 'my little slut/whore' during sex? I just want porn that feels like it isn't the product of playing telephone with every porn fic that came before it kek.

No. 2562713

>>2562675
Nta virgins CAN write about sex, but it will be clockable.

No. 2562717

>>2562713
NTA but examples?

No. 2562724

>>2562717
Honestly? The most recent example I can think of is every ensemble stars fanfiction. Love that game but the ficwriters can't write for shit. Had to go back as far as 2016 to find anything decent.

No. 2562734

>>2562717
I often notice fic writers describing cum as 'sticky'. It's slimy when wet and crusty when dry, where do they get the idea that it's sticky?? They can't have ever touched it.

No. 2562739

>>2562713
any time im reading a fic and I can't parce what position theyre supposed to be in I assume the writer is a virgin, but i guess they could always just be a non-virgin bad writer

No. 2562745

I hate reading "mmmfmm" or "mwaaggg" instead of "[] moaned". So cringy.

No. 2562762

>>2562745
This but when people unironically say this on forums like on here. Sorry yume nonas but seeing you guys going "hnnnng" in response to a fantasy or sexy fanart gives me second hand embarrassment

No. 2562766

>>2562762
Nonnas can't even be cringe and free on lolcao, what is the world coming to?

No. 2562781

>>2562713
So how can one write sex so well it seems like they did fuck but they're actually a virgin?

No. 2562796

>>2562713
I think sex written by virgins is kinda charming when they have an idealized and romantic view of how sex works, and deeply cringe when I can tell they’re just regurgitating porn tropes.

No. 2562852

>>2562717
Male characters coming an unrealistic number of times in a short period is one I've noticed. Writers seem to forget that refractory periods are a thing. Characters going from flaccid to fully hard in two seconds, and a lack of foreplay in general. Excessively positive descriptions of how semen or pussy juice tastes. People falling asleep immediately after sex without going to the bathroom or cleaning up. A classic one is bizarre substances being used as lube. Tacky porn dialogue has already been mentioned, but I find Daddy kink shit to be particularly cringe. Suprise analingus is one that I've been seeing more often; for fuck's sake, people need notice for anything involving anuses, it's not a spur-moment-thing unless you've got a dental dam (and I've yet to see a fic even mention those).

No. 2562870

>>2562852
realism isn’t sexy

No. 2562894

>>2562796
>>2562852
Why do people feel the need to act all realismfag over sex but never bat an eye when it comes to action scenes or gore? I know those have their spergs but it seems like sex is like that impossible to write things despite troves of sexual anatomy and real life sex stories online. People have zero excuses for not understanding basic human anatomy. Sometimes the way virgins write sex is weird but how is it fine for a pacifist to write about a serial killer hooking people to doors without someone screaming for them to be more "realistic". Be real. Unless they're retarded, the difference between a sex haver and a virgin writer is negligible.

No. 2562908

>>2562870
>>2562894
Geez I was just answering anon's question

No. 2562919

>>2562894
Nta I think it's less about realism and more about plausibility. Based on my own reading experience, if a fantasy setting had male characters with no refractory period and porny dialogue I'd handwave it off and even be into it depending on if it fits the couple, but if it was a mundane contemporary setting and they were sex gods/goddesses without reason I'd be like >>2562852 nonna and think "yeah right" and it'd ruin my immersion kek. TPO. Time plot occasion.

No. 2562949

>>2562894
Unrealistic sex is bad when it makes me dry.
Unrealistic sex is good when it makes me wet.
It's not complicated for me, or most nonas I imagine.

No. 2562955

>>2562908
I’m just saying no one wants to read about shit like dental dams or disgusting tasting semen/juice regardless if they’re a virgin or not so realism isn’t a good indicator
>>2562949
you get it

No. 2562974

>>2562949
This is it. Particularly applies to M/M sex because who tf wants realistic anal sex and none of the readers are gay men anyway, so writers should 100% take liberties and make it fantasy-good instead of realistic.

You just don't want it to be unrealistic in a way that takes you out of the story and annoys you rather than makes it hotter.(fujosperging outside containment)

No. 2563001

The lack of foreplay is gay though, the build up is the best part.

No. 2563114

>>2563001
Even as a virgin I understand this part, why do so many writers leave out the best part?

No. 2563125

>>2562852
Why would I want to hear about people going to the bathroom after sex when reading smut?

No. 2563127

>>2562852
Feels good being a virgin and not giving a shit about muh realism

No. 2563337

File: 1749880229382.jpeg (78.28 KB, 750x752, GJEocSOWcAAdkb0.jpeg)

>>2562745
CharacterAi dropping the M bomb (mmmfwagghhh) during a sexy part of the plot I orchestrated was my personal Alexa farting alone in the dark moment

No. 2563378

File: 1749886857969.png (229.74 KB, 600x738, IMG_1535.png)

thought this was an own

No. 2563382

>>2563378
I miss when kids only existed on neopets and club penguin and we didnt share the rest of the internet with them.

No. 2563384

>>2563382
this is for cookierun

No. 2563389

>>2563384
Well they should stay in cookierun then wtf are they using social media.

No. 2563434

>>2563378
>>2563384
Kids don't need fandom on social media. They should just do fandom in real life as a club among their peers.
Yes, even if the franchise itself is childish.

No. 2563446

File: 1749893564255.jpg (290.32 KB, 918x1465, what.JPG)

>the state of “himejoshis”

No. 2563454

>>2563434
>>2563382
porn addicts(bait)

No. 2563455

>>2563446
These people speak like shipping fictional women is akin to being forced to eat boiled broccoli and raw carrots.

No. 2563467

>>2563454
>absolutely no one mentions porn
>PORN ADDICTS!!!111
Kids dont belong in social media. Insane that this is even a debate nowadays.

No. 2563482

>>2563001
Honestly, oral sex is way more sexier than plain piv sex imo.

No. 2563487

>>2563446
This has to be english right? Why does this sound like a second fucking language?

No. 2563498

>>2563446
Every time I scroll past this I laugh.
>"What if one girl just laid there and the other girl did all the work… And what if the girl that did all the work was actually a boy?? Women truly can do anything."

>>2562675
>>2562717
I guess this screenshot can answer your questions on virgins writing sex kekk.

No. 2563545

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>>2563446
>stone top
Anybody else start hating a ship or characters because of the aggressive top/bottom autism EVERYWHERE? I have noticed they/thems on twitter are even more obsessed with this shit. They literally start shrieking and pulling their hair out if you are into vers or switching. It is so annoying how they claim kweerio ships are superior to straight stuff, but then they are just weirdly obsessed with making one person the "man" in the relationship.
This shit is getting more and more prominent in both yaoi and yuri fanbases. If it is yaoi, then the bottom is likely a cuntboy. If it is yuri, then the top somehow has a dick. And the way they express their horniness for top and bottom characters is just equally bizarre. If it is someone they have collectively decided is the bottom, then that character becomes the "wife" everyone wants to impregnate. If it is the designated top, then they want that character to fuck them senseless. Why does this even matter if both characters are of the same sex.

No. 2563548

>>2563446
how do you want them to talk and how does this differ from fujos? genuinely asking, i was okay with it all until i saw that last comment

No. 2563552

>>2563548
Nta and risking the ban by asking this, but what made you ask about fujos?

No. 2563556

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>>2563552
modern fujos in fandom speak in the same sexless, yet oversexualized way about their boys. most fandom talk is similar to picrel it's everywhere, not just himejoshi

No. 2563576

>>2563467
nta but it was clear she was calling out "adult spaces" in fandoms meant for children. some of you are too trigger happy at the mention of porn

No. 2563592

>>2563378
Did you know that the context of picrel was Sophia The First porn?

No. 2563594

>>2563592
Kek, no fucking way. Caps or I don't believe you.

No. 2563597

>>2563556
Everytime I see this screenshot it removes one year off my life span.

No. 2563600

>>2563594
I don't have caps but someone said it a few threads back

No. 2563637

>>2563592
>>2563600
I understand SpongeBob or blatant coomerbait curvy kids cartoon characters, but what the fuck could possibly possess someone to make Sophie the first porn? Molestation as a kid?

No. 2563650

>>2563637
Bunch of autists are into the ugly wizard grandpa

No. 2563782

>>2563576
Online fandoms aren’t meant for children point blank.

No. 2563870

>>2563592
That's a myth, it's just that someone who reblogged the original post was a Sophia The First fan.

No. 2563874

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>>2563592
>>2563594
Nona is referring to picrel. To clarify, ask-princess-sofia wasn’t the original artist but someone who reposted it. Looking her up, her account seems to have been removed by tumblr. She was into shipping Sofia with some ugly old man mentioned here >>2563650 and the encanto girl with her uncle

No. 2563885

>>2563548
nta but i think penis envy and top/bottomfaggotry are quite possibly the last thing i would ever want to be talking about as a lover of fictional women.

No. 2563899

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>>2563874
Im saying this as a 25 year old who still likes cartoons: is there an exact point in fandom history where adults started taking literal toddler shows with college degree levels of seriousness? Like why are shows like Bluey, the animated Hotel Transylvania show, and Sophia the First only allowed to be handled online by people with PhDs related to media?

No. 2563914

>>2563899
I blame retards

No. 2563921

>>2563899
I can't pinpoint an exact moment but I would put it somewhere in the transition from LJ/fansites to Tumblr/mainstream social media. People were encouraged to share content that would hit a wide range of viewership for upvotes (as opposed to attention in small, focused groups) and what wider range could there be than trying to analyze literal children's media? Add on top of that the rise of mainstream journalism going full click bait, identity politics getting traction (both positive and negative), and the ever growing number of college educated but chronically underemployed people diving into fandom, and you've got a stew going.

No. 2563930

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>>2563921
>wider range than children's media
Ayrt I'm not going to shit on anyone's interests because I have Don Bluth autism beyond belief but even with your theory I still can't grasp why shows specifically aimed at kindergarten aged children are magnets for pseudo intellectuals. I can't grasp why it is a very specific kind of person who does it, or why there's so many of them, because in my mind toddler shows shouldn't have a wide range that spans to 30+ year olds bringing up their CV in debates about them. I would very genuinely understand it if it was bored normie parents but it never is

No. 2563941

>>2563899
Yeah, I still like cartoons like Gumball, My Little Pony and Regular Show etc. but I seriously don't get the freaks into little baby shows like Bluey and Sofia. They're so insufferable with their overanalyzation. The appeal of cartoons is that you can just turn your fucking brain off, relax and laugh.

No. 2563949

>>2563930
Poorly phrased. My bad. By wide range, I meant more like "eye catching" or "controversial". A transfeminist reading of something like JJK is less likely to hook in ragebait or normies than something like Bluey.

No. 2564044

>>2563930
Educated enough to get a masters, not smart enough to critically analyze anything that isn't explicitly designed for children.

No. 2564137

>>2563941
I would like to point out that there are adults that watched Sofia the First as a child. Also older siblings that watched it with their younger ones. Like I watched it with my older sister and she would make comics for me because she also enjoyed it. We even debated ships and stuff. We’re not big into anymore, but I can see why adults would be at least a little into Sofia the First. I can’t say the same for Bluey except that I’m pretty sure there was a meme about it being a really good cartoon because even my normie friends watched a few episodes of Bluey.

No. 2564144

>>2563899
Two motivations for this that I've seen (beyond basic bad taste/immaturity and being a creep), is there's a bit of a fascination towards looking back on kids content and then 'analysing' (read: re-framing) them from a more adult or 'mature' perspective– you used to see this a lot more as edgy analyses/theories designed to make a piece of media more deep or whoa (eg 'coma theories', where the show is ackshually taking place in the mind of a sickly/dying child, or 'x piece of media is totally taking place on post-apocalyptic Earth', and other 'x is really depicting y' meta etc), but now that a large crop of fandom active adults have been through tertiary education, they instead tend to force media to fit their academic wheelhouse rather than creepypasta-tier shit. I think the simpler the media, the easier it is to be retarded about it as an adult, because, if you're so inclined, you can fixate on, over think, and fill in the gaps far more freely than with anything more complicated or with the actual subject matter you want to talk about.

I also think part of the appeal is that you're one of few adults in a sea of children enjoying the show– not for the usual creep reasons either, but because you'll have little to no competition in being a big name fan or having the most well-regarded and engaged with meta etc. Even if you're spouting absolute nonsense, a lot of kids will just be happy to see something they like being taken seriously, and will give such an adult a lot of positive engagement with their posts. Adult and teenage fans into more mature media/media for their age demographic are generally more experienced and confident in what they like, and so won't just fawn over any old post and may even react and interact negatively to it. People into little kid's shows, in my experience, tend to either be literal autists (good for them), or people who cannot handle being 'confronted' or 'challenged' by simple fiction, they absolutely can't handle actual people doing the same.

(of course there are also just freaks out there that get off on corrupting innocent things or things for innocent audiences)

No. 2564204

>>2563941
>Gumball
>Regular Show
Ayrt I would go as far as to say that both of these examples, despite being kids cartoons, are of more substance and therefore more worthy of autistic over-analyzing than Sofia the First kek and yet you will never see people do this because that type of person aren't drawn to them (quite possibly for that reason)
>>2564137
Ayrt but even in the case of adults who grew up watching Sofia the First or shows like that it still doesn't make that much sense to intellectualise it. It's not even like adults who are super into lego or Thomas the tank engine for nostalgia and just let it be what it is.
>>2564144
>people who cannot handle being 'confronted' or 'challenged' by simple fiction
I believe this personality trait shared by people who love toddler shows is the exact reason why they're also almost always echo chamber tranny faggots who sperg out when they're disagreed with. I will never forget the days when mild as milk takes on The Loud House were enough to send a lot of people into a chimpout so severe that it required days of clucking to eachother reaffirming that all their opinions are true and correct as therapy to get over the mere idea of an opposing opinion.

No. 2564216

>>2554079
My opinion is that the author really wanted to write a Levi x Erwin doujin, but instead just made them OCs

No. 2564279

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>>2564216
Always seemed more like an edgy version of Jean to me tbh.

No. 2564284

>>2564279
Well, Jean is the best boy so at least she's got taste

No. 2564309

>>2564279
>WHAT IS IT, YOON BUM?

No. 2564316

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>>2564216
>>2564279
Coincidentally his hair also reminds me of this ugly guy in Levi’s earlier squad

No. 2564404

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why are zoomies like this

No. 2564416

>>2564404
why do they do that weird mickey mouse facial marking?

No. 2564633

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dandadan discourse is appearing on the tl again and i’m so tired of this shitty shounenslop series and its fans trying to convince people that it’s not fan service at all. how do even so-called “woke” girls and women defend this garbage and are fans of it?
>nnooo trust me bro female characters going through sexual situations drawn in suggestive angles explicitly is for the plot, it’s supposed to be shown in a negative light!!!!!
keklmao, not to mention momo is underage. not to mention the author is a moid. not to mention japan has always had a huge culture of sexualization of girls in both anime/manga and real life. not to mention 80% of moid anime fans are degenerate coomers who masturbate to hentai that looks exactly like this.
fans will try to say that dandadan is targeted for school boys aged 12-18, like that ever stopped adult moids from consuming it as well.
there are ways to effectively portray sexual abuse in a respectful and serious manner and dandadan is far from it. i trust it even less since the author is a moid, who probably gets off to drawing these. it’s so retarded seeing fans act like this is a good faith portrayal of a serious topic. i’ve seen coomers draw literal porn of this scene alone, it’s obvious that moids are supposed to get off to this scene but they can pretend that it’s a “sad” scene or some shit.
i haven’t read dandadan so i don’t know what other cringe sexual scenes there are that try to pass off as muh “serious and sad sexual assault scene that is totally not fan service for moids”, but i know the arc about that mother and her daughter, and how the mother sells her body to provide for them but her daughter is still kidnapped by yakuza and is never seen again, so she kills herself. yet another scene that i don’t trust moids writing about. wouldn’t be surprised at how many moids (including the author) got off to that whole story, about a woman being degraded sexually. the kidnapped daughter too, on 4chan /a/ i saw moids talking about how the daughter was definitely raped and killed by the gang members. yes, the place infested with lolipedos, so i can imagine they get off about joking what could’ve happened to the daughter.
but dandadan fans will swear that these cheap, corny, poorly written sexual plots are “deep” and totally serious

No. 2564638

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>>2564633
you know you’re doing such a good and wonderful job at portraying SA scenes (and teenage girls in general) that are totally not fan service when some coomer account dedicated to posting fan service posts your series, kek
>b-b-but trust me bro, the pantyshots of an underage girl are necessary and integral to the plot, it’s not supposed to be sexy for moid viewers!!!!

No. 2564681

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>>2564633
>holding her legs open
>standing in a way that looks like he's penetrating her
>pointed phallic weapon angled perfectly as a stand in for his erection showing between her legs
That top panel is as rapey as it gets. The libfem anime enjoyed are retarded again, I fear

No. 2564687

>>2564681
The most disgusting scene was in the hot springs with the five (our was it four?) literal ugly bastards with one of them going "ooh we got ourselves a cutie" with one of them pinning her to the water. Made me drop it before I could even finish it.

No. 2564721

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>>2564404
I hate this ugly nose crest trend so much, it doesn't even look good, why are zoomies like this?

No. 2564736

>>2564633
I didnt even bother watching it when i found out the plot revolves around a teenage boy's balls kek. Anime has always been retarded but it feels like its become even stupider… somehow.

No. 2564747

>>2564633
kek one of my friends who's admittedly a bit retarded tried to get me into this show. i told her that i'm not going to watch some shit that includes sexual assault presented in a titillating way for moid gooners and she tried to backpedal and say that this was the only instance really and it's totally safe afterwards except for the hot springs scene >>2564687 mentioned and i was like yeah, no, thanks. fortunately she gave up. i'm saying she's a bit retarded because she identifies as nonbinary but only remembers it when it's convenient. example: she thirsts for naoya from jjk who's a raging violent misogynist but she deludes herself into thinking he'd be different towards her because she sometimes remembers that she wants people to use they/them pronouns for her.

No. 2564750

>>2564747
Why are you friends with a gendie?

No. 2564757

>>2564750
because we've been friends for years and she's a nice and fun person. like i said, she frequently forgets that she's a gendie and she knows about my radfem views as well. she also trashtalks the tims in the server we're in and thinks they're disgusting fetishists. she's one of those women that are thiiis close to peaking but being nice is keeping them from it. so i just keep nudging her in hopes that she'll become one of us soon.

No. 2564780

>>2564750
Nta but a lot of the most based women I know were butch lesbians or hardcore ryonafags that were sucked into gendie shit as teens, detransitioned, and remain at nuclear levels of hatred for men and troonshit every waking moment of their lives because the bitterness of what happened molded them into not giving a fuck JK Rowling style. It's only a small number of gendies who make it out the other side but god damn, when they do, they dog-walk everyone else in the vicious transphobia gay moid bashing misanderist arena

No. 2564788

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Well RIP to this little fucker in the avatar cycle, but at least people can finally admit that Korra was a shitty avatar and a bad show. The best thing Korra even did was bring back the air nomads, but what does it even matter if every bending race is on the verge of extinction at this point? Korra ended up shitting the bed so hard, any redeeming accomplishment got vaporized and now this new avatar is getting an even worse hand-me-down than Roku leaving Aang to deal with an imperial Fire Nation.

No. 2564790

>>2564404
if this was drawn with colors that all have the same value and become indistinguishable when switched to greyscale it would be a true zoomer masterpiece

No. 2564855

>>2564633
>>2564638
>>2564681
Is there any portrayal of good, non-fetishized sexual abuse in animanga? Specifically of female victims, moids can't get raped so I don't care about that.

No. 2564881

>>2564855
i fear that's impossible because men will goon to it. the only thing that would work is to have it happen behind closed doors and the victim later says she was assaulted. but that will only make moids draw five gajillion victim x fat ugly moid rapist djs.

No. 2564888

>>2564788
She's so fucking ugly.

No. 2564892

>>2564888
She really is, the design is too much.

No. 2564898

>>2563899
Throw back to mr enter sending death threats to spongebob writers

No. 2564902

>>2564888
I like her hair/face but the clothes are gaudy. Then again she does live in an apocalyptic world so I guess a thrown-together outfit makes sense.

No. 2564912

>>2564633
I still don't get how anyone had the audacity of suggesting this series to JJK fans once the manga ended and excusing this kind of scenes with "it's supposed to be scary"

>fans will try to say that dandadan is targeted for school boys aged 12-18, like that ever stopped adult moids from consuming it as well.

These fans are most likely pandemic weaboos who don't get that literally everyone read the WSJ. On top of that editors for this magazines are sexist enough that even Oda mentioned it to answer a fan letter. Of all people.

No. 2564913

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>>2564881
Sad but true, it disgusts me how even in non-sexualized contexts moids will create hentai of female SA victims. Mouthwashing, Deltarune, the list goes on. Meanwhile, when a male character gets raped you have handmaidens and TIFs like picrel who will treat him like an innocent wittle baby and you're a horrible person for creating content of it or making fun of it. I've even seen this in fandoms for BL games where the uke gets raped with the intent of arousing the consumer. I wish some women would wise the fuck up and realize men would never do the same for a female character.

No. 2564919

>>2564913
This reminds me of that bitchfit they threw about that rapr victim from Silent Hill being "too fat" in the remake. I think that summarizes how males approach video games and digest stories and meanings: they don't. They don't care about seeing any point in anything, they just want to play the game and if they see a female character, they just want to coom.

No. 2564944

>>2564913
Its funny because kojima is a coomer so the intention behind that was to think otacon is a chad living his straight shota fantasy.

No. 2564945

>>2564944
He wasn’t a shota at that age but this is probably the truth kek

No. 2564980

>>2564945
I meant it was a moid inserting his autopedo fantasies. For some reason a lot of westerners think kojima is a wholesome chungus japanese westaboo, but he's such a coomer. They always give him the benefit of the doubt or make excuses when he inserts his fetishes, like with otacon and his step mom. I like kojima and mgs but anyone who puts him on a pedestal is a retard.

No. 2565036

>>2564980
>For some reason a lot of westerners think kojima is a wholesome chungus japanese westaboo, but he's such a coomer.
KEK exactly, male privilege at its finest. Isn't there a piss mechanic in Death Stranding as well? Oh, and he's a vtuberfag.
>They always give him the benefit of the doubt or make excuses when he inserts his fetishes, like with otacon and his step mom.
Kojima has been an unapologetic femdomfag since 1, but I don't expect ironic fans who genuinely think Quiet is feminist to not realize that Kojima fetishizes the very thing they hate so much. With that said, he is unfathomably based for using a moid as a sad backstory rape character, it makes me wish less handmaidens were into the series.

No. 2565118

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>>2564788
So what I’m getting from searching this image, that left side is leaked concept art and the right side is fanart? And picrel is the design closer to being finalized?

No. 2565125

>>2565118
Yes, I posted a form of her concept design. As bad as the concept design is, I like it better than the finalized version because the purple hair is stupid to me.

No. 2565419

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>>2564855
A Life Turned Upside Down is good, although it's primarily about a dysfunctional family and the MC/author gets caught up in an abusive relationship later. It's not a happy story because it's completely grounded in reality but it felt kind of cathartic to read imo

No. 2565430

>>2565118
>>2565125
NTA but that's a shame, I liked her big poofy hair

No. 2565495

>>2564855
basically, just try to filter your choices to female authors/mangakas only. even if it’s not always a “perfect” representation of SA i still trust women 100000% more than faggot moid authors when it comes to these kind of topics. never trust moids when it comes to writing rape scenes

No. 2565517

>>2564855
Haven't watched it since it came out, but from what I remember Wonder Egg Priority was pretty good. It's more about the aftermath, and I'm pretty sure everything was off screen.

Like I said tho, it's been a long time since I've watched it so I could be misremembering

No. 2565679

>>2563552
>>2563548
You guys realize you can reply to posts across threads, right? Like you can ask this question in the containment thread with ">>2563446" in your reply and it'll link back here?

No. 2565851

>>2565118
I don't have any strong opinions on the girl other than I liked her original hair more, but I absolutely hate the moids outfit. Something about how it has very little basis in historical clothes and the layering/physics make no sense, especially compared to the girl. Is he wearing a shrug, or is the yellow thing an apron? Are those grey bumps on his pants meant to be pockets? Why do his shoes have so little detail, they look like sci-fi boots, like he's a 10-second Voltron side character. And also his palette is fucking ugly.

No. 2565944

>>2564638
Dandadan fans are truly retarded. Or in heavy denial. Perhaps both. The rape and ugly bastard fetish is clear as day.

No. 2565950

>>2562852
My nigel can nut 6 times in a row and I don’t always get up after sex. Guess my life is unrealistic kek

No. 2565969

>>2565950
no1curr

No. 2565982

>>2565851
>Very little basis in historical clothes
My theory tinfoil is that they're doing this on purpose in an attempt to gain an overseas fanbase. ATLA wasn't very well-liked in Asian countries and TLOK only had a small following.

No. 2566098

>>2565982
ATLA isn't liked in Asia because it's not another terribly written shounen with constant pedobait and faggotbaiting between Zuko and Aang.

No. 2566106

>>2566098
But kung fu panda was much loved in china and the only shonen shit was the whole dragon warrior thing.

No. 2566112

>>2566106
They love Kung Fu panda for the same reason their dumbass leader thought that Winnie the Pooh was offensive. They're stupid.

No. 2566113

File: 1750070461473.gif (2.3 MB, 300x300, 1000037233.gif)

>>2566112
Have you got something against Kung Fu Panda?!

No. 2566132

>>2566098
If anything it's a super generic shonen series but without the fanservice and the setting doesn't feel exotic or relatable enough for them. It's the reverse with Harry Potter if you want a comparison, it's basically a better written WSJ series than average as a novel even down to the mandatory tornament arc, ship wars and the writer being a woman but using an ambiguous pen name to avoid backlash, but the setting feels very exotic for Asian fans (typical British books with typical British humor) while also being relatable (school setting in a contemporary era/urban fantasy).

No. 2566149

>>2566132
>super generic
>never watched or paid attention

No. 2566152

>>2566149
I watched it on tv when I was a kid but I liked it for the same reason I liked other shonen anime on tv at the time. I admit it's been a while since then. I'm only talking about the original series, I watched the Legend of Korra season 1 when it aired and disliked it a lot except maybe for the antagonist. I'm sure Asian people who are used to reading and watching shonen series saw what ATLA was like and thought "oh it's more of the same thing but from the USA this time" based on the character designs, setting, story, power system and fight scenes, etc.

No. 2566171

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Fanfictions can be good, but definitely not the vast majority of them because most "writers" can't be bothered to properly digest the world and characters of the source material. Most people just write based on what they WANT the characters to be, instead of writing their stories in a way that could actually pass as the media creator's "what if" for the plot. 90% of characters written in fanfiction aren't written like how they are, but as clones that might as well be skinwalking what the fic writer is thinking about. If you ship yourself or an OC with a real person, that's dehumanizing and cringe regarding the person you're writing about. 'x reader' fanfics exist because teenage millenials and zoomers got too lazy to just make a reasonable OC. 'x reader' fics are a contradictive genre because it's really written as "character x author" since there's no way for the author to predict and write how the entire audience would act as individuals in any scenario. The only aspect of it that's "x reader" is merely when readers find the fic and may enjoy it themselves. Combined with almost nobody on Ao3 having an education in writing that's beyond a high school level and 'x reader' fics really being just the author shipping themselves with a character and shoving their kinks into the sex sequences, 'x reader' fics have to be the most objectively difficult to write if you're making it a challenge to not let it be bad. You have to be a literary genius to somehow write a 'character x reader' fanfiction GOOD.

No. 2566192

>>2566171
I fully agree with you, but I would also argue that most people don't even try to keep the characters they write about IC because headcanons have become so accepted. Nowadays, you can headcanon that [evil guy who kicks puppies and eats babies] is actually a sensitive soul coincidentally enjoying the same hobbies as you and no one is allowed to criticise you for butchering his personality completely. There was always OOC fic, but at some point in the past decade standards have been absolutely obliterated and you aren't allowed to have any expectations of authors to keep your favorite IC. That's why you also have so many shitty modern AUs, where the only thing the actual character has in common with their fic self is the name. The same goes for smut too. For the sake of porny kings characterisation gets thrown out of the window. I no longer bother to read fics for popular fandoms, I don’t want to wade through thousands of shitty fics only to then be spooked by the untagged transwashing of my faves.

No. 2566203

>>2566192
It's an echo of narcissism when fakebois transwash male characters they like because it boils down to trying to overwrite the character into being like themselves instead of trying to be like the character if they like it so much. It also shoots themselves in the foot because it snitches that deep down inside, they at least know they're different from actual males.
>"oh look, it's a male character from a material that I like! It's already established that this is a male, and I'm a transman so this should already be "representation" to me as a "man", buuuuut let me put some ugly ass stitches at the bottom of his pecs to draw him as a botched up biological female like myself!"

No. 2566204

Why are gendies in all fandom spaces? This is a rhetorical question, but it's so fucking annoying. I just want to talk about autistic Star Trek trivia without having to hear about how some random alien is totally a tranny metaphor and watch people cast my favourite female characters as nothing but accessoires to some perveted moid's autogynephilia. None of this is even based in canon, why can't these people go five minutes without bringing up their trans headcanons? It's Star Trek ffs. You could have actual aliens with multiple sexes in their biology or whatever, yet they turn them into heckin valid 2020s tumblr queeros everytime. Where's the creative fandom gone?

No. 2566209

>>2566204
Because gendies are chronically online, so you're likely to see then anywhere since scrolling the internet and finding different fandoms is their main hobby.

No. 2566239

>>2564633
I really wanted to like the show/manga (read up to the current chapter) but yeah no these are obvious fanservice scenes that just make it worth dropping. I like the premise, I like Momo and Ken as protags and a couple, but the pantyshots and shit are so fucking annoying. Even when there's a character later in the manga who was blackmailed into sending nudes to her gym teacher, who the group beat the shit out of it still feels exploitative and obvious (she has big oppai titties bc of COURSE).

No. 2566249

>>2566098
I mean to be fair the characters in Avatar are really really ugly so I don’t see how a fujo could get into it without making them super off model.

No. 2566252

>>2566249
>fujos cant coom to this because the male characters are too ugly
nigga most of the characters are between the age of 12-16. It's almost like faggotbaiting wasn't what this show was meant to do.

No. 2566256

>>2566252
Who cares if they were trying to do it or not? Fujos clearly don’t care
I’m just saying that the character designs are ugly and you’d have to draw them off model.

No. 2566265

>>2566252
nta but I get what she means. It's not just fujoshi, most people don't want ugly main characters in their cool action series. You have manga and manhwa taking place in eras where men had ugly as fuck bald hair styles but the characters don't because it's ugly. On the other hand Aang looks like a bald ugly monkey and Zuko has an ugly nearly bald hair style in the beginning of the series. Sokka has a similar hair style the whole series. The character design is good but the characters themselevs don't look cool or stylish or beautiful and for people that can be a deal breaker when they have hundreds of similar anime and manga with characters they find better looking. WSJ manga are usually for boys and men yet you have Prince of Tennis accidentally becoming more popular with girls because they find the characters pretty. You even have grown straight men sperging because they find guys like Gojo or Sukuna hot so it makes them want to watch JJK just for them if they don't see these lines on paper as a threat against them when it comes to attention from women.

No. 2566266

>>2566252
That didnt stop all the sports shounen fujos, the male characters are just too ugly and annoying. The only good one is zuko and he barely talks to any man that isnt zokka and aang and both are ugly and annoying characters.

No. 2566268

>>2566249
atla characters are beloved of both fujos and hetshippers, zuko in particular. atla ship wars have been going on since the show aired

No. 2566279

>>2566268
Fujos for it only came up after it was on netflix and they were pretty clearly just cope shipping because there’s no BL options in the show kek

No. 2566296

>>2566279
what? there's been plenty of slash shipping for atla since it came out kek

No. 2566325

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>the token sex pest character is totally a trans girl
Kek

No. 2566339

>>2566252
You really think fujos will stop at that? Transformers—a little boy franchise about car robots has a dedicated yaoi fanbase, kek.

No. 2566528

File: 1750096982506.jpg (99.92 KB, 427x598, 15751236.jpg)

>>2566265
Fujos liked One Punch Man, bald doesn't seem like it'd be that much of a filter.

No. 2566545

>>2566279
There are tons of fics including 100k+ longfics for m/m involving Zuko, Sokka, and/or Aang. Idk what you're talking about

No. 2566580

>>2565419
I read this last night after seeing this post. depressing shit.

No. 2566592

>>2566528
Saitama is bald in a normal way and he's an adult character from a comedy series that doesn't seem to take itself serious, so he looks a lot less ridiculous.

No. 2566609

I am jealous of the warrior cats fandom. It looks so cozy.

No. 2566627

>>2566279
Tell me you're a young retard without telling me.

No. 2566684

>>2566279
Zukaang has an old livejournal community and Jetko had one too.

No. 2566739

>>2566609
It's filled with tifs and people who draw feral cat porn

No. 2566803

File: 1750112333263.jpg (271.34 KB, 1920x1080, pinocchio-gallery-image4-lies-…)

>>2564633
One interesting difference between male and female fans I have observed is that female fans have no problem with pretty and attractive female characters and protagonists. We just don't want them to be constantly sexualized. On the other hand, men will literally avoid series with pretty boy characters. Like Lies of P for instance, I have heard moids saying that they refuse to play this game because they don't like how the protag is a pretty twink.

No. 2566807

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>>2566803
I knew a couple of guys that slapped a mask on him when they played, kind of funny considering how anal men get over women asking for the same option.

No. 2566813

>>2566803
>I have heard moids saying that they refuse to play this game because they don't like how the protag is a pretty twink
This attitude reminds me of religious moids who will refuse to shake hands with gay people because they're scared of "catching" homolust kek

No. 2566814

>>2560451
>tfw tifs are going to troonify chrissy the way they did it to jesse

No. 2566818

>>2566814
ofcourse they troon out chirssy the wife beater misogynistic piece of shit,nlogs never learn

No. 2566820

>>2566528
Of course women would love one punch man because the mangaka (not one) stole the style of ikemen off shoujo female mangakas

No. 2566838

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>>2566803
>moids saying that they refuse to play this game because they don't like how the protag is a pretty twink.
This is so dumb, that guy is on par with Link in terms of bishounen-ness and I don't see moids bitching about him (though I'm sure some have).

No. 2566845

File: 1750115123937.webp (598.98 KB, 1600x1138, Saitama_traveling_through_time…)

>>2566528
Saitama is funny, and baldness is basically his only aesthetic flaw. Also, you sometimes see that weird shaved samurai haircut in historical BL, and that's not too far off from a character being bald. Also did you know that samurai cut their hair like that because it would make their helmets more comfortable to wear? I learned that recently and it makes so much sense lmao.

No. 2566876

File: 1750117075350.jpeg (883.5 KB, 1179x1719, IMG_0866.jpeg)

WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE EVEN JOINING FANSPACES WHAT THE FUCK?

No. 2566880

>>2566876
Assuming this isn't a joke/bait, it sounds like they're just mad because some people can draw better than them kek

No. 2566881

>>2566876
People like this should just listen to the top 40 and shop at Sephora exclusively

No. 2566882

>>2566803
I definitely want more pretty male characters in video games (or any media reall), but no offense, that kid looks like he's 12.

No. 2566883

>>2566876
This is the kind of tweet I'd make after seeing cuntboy art of my husbando. I get it.

No. 2566885

>>2566883
Nta KEK okay I can relate to that 100%

No. 2566890

>>2566876
I would guess the underlying frustration here is with the way fandoms can often crystallize around just one particular interpretation of the work and get further and further away from the source material, because people are consuming samey, tropey fanarts instead of going back to the original. Same problem you get with fanfiction and with fandom discussion in general, but less people talk about it with fanart.
Also >>2566883 for sure.

No. 2566895

>>2566890
Fair, but "everybody stop drawing fanart because someone MIGHT interpret the work wrong" seems like a mentally ill solution kek

No. 2566913

>>2566895
Well I'm also guessing that this is meant to be humorously over the top, but I thought it went with out saying that is either a joke, a bait, or insanity.

No. 2566941

>>2566882
>this male character isn't a dysgenic roidpig baldie, therefore he looks like a kid!
Retard logic.

No. 2566949

>look at yuri fandom discussion
>people can't stop talking about dicks
>look at yaoi fandom discussion
>people can't stop talking about pussies
Just how did things manage to become so bad over the years? These days I'm afraid to even look at a series' ao3 page because they're always full of different variations of fics with ''character name is trans'' or ''character name has a girlcock/boypussy'' tags that slip past my filters, not to mention the ones that aren't even tagged in the first place. I know that gendies are going to have a meltdown over every little thing, but how are you not even allowed to express disliking seeing piv sex in spaces that should by definition be free of it? And don't even get me started on zippertits. It's beyond ridiculous.

No. 2566965

>>2566876
So is this a bait post or what? Fanart requires some imagination.

No. 2566975

File: 1750122901904.webp (57.64 KB, 1000x1000, This is what I got googling me…)

>>2566965
Maybe they're talking about the meme template type of fanart where people just draw their fandom characters over something else?

No. 2567142

>>2566803
Tbh I think it just comes down to the type of moid (and, conversely, female) fan. Some skitz out over same-sex characters being attractive (often equating 'attractive' with automatic sexualisation, too), others get pissy if they're not attractive enough (with wild standards as to what that even means). Even with your Lies of P example, my male gamer friends just happily played the game and only commented on the MC's appearance in reference to him looking similar to an actor (but 'if he were actually pretty' kek). I also know female gamers who will not touch a game if the female character options aren't feminine and attractive enough, and will bitch when we play a certain game that there's only one such lady to pick (the other female characters being too masculine, ugly, or practically dressed), and other women who complain bitterly about attractive female characters existing (regardless of how they're dressed or treated). It's not so cut and dry, I guess I'm trying to say.

Also, sometimes I think anons here just need to stop inflicting psychic damage on themselves by giving any of their time to the most bottom-of-the-barrel and brainrotted moids around, who usually aren't even part of a fandom, let alone people who were ever going to buy or play whatever game is in question because all they're really dedicated to is being a reactionary sped with delusional standards (every 'omg she's so ugly, needs ten pounds of makeup and plastic surgery STAT' post about a female character) that enjoys poking a fandom to get attention, usually from a female playerbase (moids who comment on LADS who neither play it nor really give a shit about it beyond stirring up and harassing the women who do).

No. 2567143

>>2567142
>ignore 3dpd moids
Good advice for everyone and in every situation.

No. 2568555

>>2566838
Yeah some moids have complained about Link and they even mod him to be taller and bearded because a vaguely-Japanese twink elf makes them insecure kek

No. 2568642

File: 1750248170265.png (Spoiler Image,12.98 MB, 3350x6350, disgusting.png)

>>2566807
Moids have no reason or the right to complain about anything related to bishounens when they get shit like this handed to them on a silver plate and get all their perversions catered to

No. 2568647

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>>2566803
God we need more pretty boys like pinocchio, he's adorable.
>>2566882
Play the game before making retarded comments like this.

No. 2568648

>>2568642
This entire meme feels dark and cursed. I hate it.

No. 2568666

>>2566256
>but the underage characters are too ugly for the fujos to coom to!
Nigga, if the media wasn't intended to pander to certain people by having a bunch of 12-16 aged characters look "sexy" and act homoerotic, who the fuck cares about what fujos want? It's almost like not everything is designed for them to coom to, and that's okay. It's a great thing, actually. A show being more fujo-repellent doesn't make it a bad show. It's amazing what you can like when you don't think with your clit kek

No. 2568686

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>>2568666
To be fair ATLA has a lot of weird fetish shit involving their underage female characters. The reason why it doesnt have yaoi bait is because the creators and writers were mostly male, not because of something else.

No. 2568689

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>>2568686
This one took me out when i saw it as a kid, disgusting

No. 2568697

>>2568647
the year is 2050, i get thrown in jail for saying i hate receding hairlines because a full head of hair is now a neotenous trait in moids

No. 2568706

>>2568697
They can’t really make that argument like… babies are bald.

No. 2568709

>>2568706
I was born with a head full of hair and I know for a fact I'm far from the only one who had hair since birth.

No. 2568717

>>2568709
I’m really happy for you and stuff

No. 2568742

>>2568686
>a character being used for some coomer bait on one beach episode means that it should be done to the male characters even more just so it can "fairly" attract even more coomers
>somehow, increasing the problem would make the show even better

No. 2568749

>>2568742
What exactly is the problem with fanservice of moids and how does it create problems for them in real life

No. 2568752

>>2568749
There's a lot of "you're just as bad as them!!!" crying on /m/ and /ot/ recently kek, school must be over already.

No. 2568762

>>2568742
Men arent affected by fanservice, also male fanservice always boils down to two male characters being close together in the same shot or maybe blushing at something the other male character says, not them making a close up of their bulge or nasty feet.

No. 2568782

>>2568742
>>2568762
So like it's bad to sexualize men? Underage boys are pretty understandable, but a man in a lewd outfit once in a place that makes sense is too much for women? This is why we get fucking nothing in media.

No. 2568783

>>2568782
>inb4 someone starts sperging about how women don't naturally like seeing attractive males and how male fanservice would put them off or something retarded like that

No. 2568792

File: 1750258445085.gif (493.45 KB, 500x375, JAYoVxK.gif)

>>2568742
Same episode did have a "fanservice" scene with Zuko but maybe anons should be the judge of this (Ngl 12 year old me was fascinated kek)

No. 2568796

>>2568792
I was so into Zuko when Avatar came out, so when he finally grew his hair and this happened, I was in love. kek

No. 2568797

>>2568749
nta I think she just meant that it would be better if there was no fanservice in a:tla at all, a show for kids about kids/young teens, than trying to 'even the score' by adding in male fanservice to go alongside the female fanservice. Not some general statement for all of fiction kek

However, I gotta point out that the male characters were depicted shirtless or even in a more generally fanservice-y way in the show, it was just very tame (the whole beach episode was kinda like that). Sure, it's not going to cut the mustard for adult women, but it was good enough for tween girls kek

No. 2568799

>>2566803
>>2568647
I love hot Pinocchio so much.

No. 2569030

File: 1750265946788.png (33.88 KB, 770x271, firefox_EWCFO8b3Ib.png)

Nobody cares about fat or ugly bara men, aside a small niche of "so unique" twitter/tumblr girls. I wish fandom spaces would stop forcing this on otome games because that detracts the main consumer and they flop.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GachaHusbandos/comments/1lb3ui1/husbando_gachas_are_a_lost_cause_from_a_chinese/?sort=confidence

No. 2569060

>>2568742
>Implying that fanservice aimed at female audiences doesn't repel coomer males

No. 2569116

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>>2569030
A hill I will die on is that women who are into bara men are just regular animefags who started with anime not set in a school. I've seen plenty of husbandofags into Tokita Ohma and Toji (or whoever the fat tit guy who gets drawn with a dog muzzle all the time is)

No. 2569143

>>2555113
Super late but what is the source on your pic nona?

No. 2569315

File: 1750274575368.jpeg (1.24 MB, 4096x2275, GLf1GI_aoAAjlsj.jpeg)

>>2569030
Gay dudes already have more than a few gay games, just play Gyee or Afterschool Sunmoner.

No. 2569329

>>2569315
Fags are like 1% of the world population, they have more than enough

No. 2569346

>>2569116
I don't think bara guys and bishies are a strict binary, frankly. I think there's a little overlap in the middle, where particularly swole bishies can also be categorized as light bara.

No. 2569347

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>both for my safety, and the safety of those who have shared their experiences and history with this topic
People calling you a moron on the internet doesn't mean they're going to beat your face in in the parking lot of a mcdonalds kek.
I just don't get these people who consume huge amounts of this sort of culture including actively trying to buy figures of it but then sperg constantly about how it's bad, then why the fuck are you engaging with it so hard?

No. 2569349

>>2569315
Nta but the guy with blue eyes and brown hair is kinda cute…

No. 2569351

>>2569315
Is the character at the very back a woman?

No. 2569352

>>2569346
I think stuff like golden kamuy falls under "light bara"
It's still extremely appealing to fujos but it's muscular enough to where bara fans could also enjoy it.

No. 2569354

>>2568555
>they even mod [Link] to be taller and bearded because a vaguely-Japanese twink elf makes them insecure kek
That is the most pathetic thing I've ever heard. I'm not exactly thrilled when a game I enjoy has a coombait female MC, but if I like the gameplay, I'll just put up with it because I'm not a petulant child kek

No. 2569360

>>2569352
That's the magic of Satoru Noda

No. 2569366

>>2569351
There's a few female characters in these games too, probably for bisexuals.

No. 2569501

>>2569352
>Anything Tanigaki-related
>"Light bara"
Yeah no I don't believe you, nonna.

No. 2569515

File: 1750280661787.webp (71.23 KB, 600x800, 1000079791.webp)

>>2569143
Nta but it's called The Hate Trap

No. 2569523

>>2569346
>swole “bishies”
that’s ikemen. bishies are always skinny. I really do wish that term was more widely known

No. 2569548

File: 1750283352223.jpg (2.78 KB, 174x170, catcry.jpg)

>>2567142
> I also know female gamers who will not touch a game if the female character options aren't feminine and attractive enough, and will bitch when we play a certain game that there's only one such lady to pick (the other female characters being too masculine, ugly, or practically dressed)

they exist? Insane, wouldn't they be happier in the kitchen (if they're gonna be that sexist)?

No. 2569550

>>2569116
>>2569346
Is that true? That might explain my taste in men kek. The only shojo anime I watched were magical girl only while the rest were either gender neutral, action cartoons or shonen. Capeshit might've helped in that too. I did start to like Bishies as a concept but now I'm kinda old…

No. 2569560

>>2566803
>>2567142
Men prefer male characters who look 'cool' and the apparent age of the male MC seems to make more of a difference to them. I don't think women have an issue playing as a little girl or as a teenage girl but from what I've seen men prefer a different age-range for male MCs. Pinocchio there isn't a bad design but he doesn't look 'cool' and he looks very young. I'd theorize that young boys wouldn't have any issues with his character design because he'd still be older than them.

No. 2569572

>>2569550
no, a man being muscular does not automatically make him bara-looking. characters like Tokita Ohma and Toji are not bara at all. bara isn’t synonymous with “muscular man” since half of the men in bara are literally fat. if you like muscular men just say that you like muscular men.

No. 2569576

File: 1750284504058.png (632.46 KB, 610x790, bara.png)

>>2569572
>characters like Tokita Ohma and Toji are not bara at all
How is this not bara?

No. 2569595

>>2567142
>and other women who complain bitterly about attractive female characters existing (regardless of how they're dressed or treated).
I have literally never seen this ever. Are there any examples of this?

No. 2569602

>>2569572
True, bara does tend to make their characters very cartoony for lack of better word. The only times I liked it was when they're drawn like normal men. Likewise, some bishies look way too skellie imo but if that makes some nonnas happy, that's fine by me. Women aren't a synchronous hivemind that agrees with everything and anything.

No. 2569614

File: 1750285901731.png (1.36 MB, 1000x970, Luther.png)

>>2569572
Bara, like anything else, has variety too. There's plenty of overlap where a character will be popular with both groups and have fanart that frankly, are hard to tell apart.
Pic related isn't overtly muscly, isn't fat, no beard, but it is bara from >>2569315

No. 2569627

>>2569576
because of his face. bara-style doesn’t just mean muscular. he doesn’t have a blockhead like in >>2569315 he literally looks just like any other manhwa ikemen
>>2569614
true, there will always be a variety but there is a specific “bara-style” that comes to mind when people imagine it which is what I’m referring to. just like how “anime-style” exists even though anime can actually have a variety of styles.

No. 2569633

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>>2569627
>because of his face
You can have bara characters that don't have that type of face, it's associated with the art style yeah but it's not a requirement.

No. 2569635

>>2569633
>it's not a requirement
no one said it was

No. 2569639

>>2569635
The guy brought up to begin with though looks super bara though.

No. 2569641

It's schrodinger's bara, both is and isn't until it's drawn by somebody.

No. 2569642

>>2569633
This basically looks like modern korean BL… the lines separating them are getting blurred over time anyway so there’s no point getting autistic about it.

No. 2569645

>>2569642
Yeah you have a good point.

No. 2569647

>>2566949
you know how nona, they managed to link the fantasy of a woman with a penis or a man with a vagina to the realities of tims and tifs. now they can claim their blatant fetish is actually just trans rep or they, as heckin vulnerable trans folx, exploring their sexuality. and yes you can totally not be into it but you have to constantly re-examine your biases and maybe idk if you mention not being into it you're probably,,,,, transphobic or terfy just a little bit,,,,

No. 2569653

>>2569642
it makes sense that both gay men and straight women would have overlaps in attraction. that's probably why so many tifs are into bara.

No. 2569664

>>2569653
The TIFs into bara are absolutely doing it because they think it makes them true and honest gay men.

No. 2569666

>>2569642
>>2569639
>>2569653
nta but I feel like if you were to categorize bara as a style then it should be the traits commonly only found in bara and not in women targeted media. bara exclusive traits would be the blocky monkey like faces and not muscle since women have always liked and drawn muscle so it’s weird to categorize it as a gay man’s thing

No. 2569669

>>2569664
this could be true, but i also think a lot of tifs are super duper incredibly straight so exaggerated displays of masculinity turn them on

No. 2569671

>>2569653
Does testosterone influence what you like then? Or are tifs pretending to like it for brownie points?

No. 2569674

>>2569671
Testosterone is like throwing gasoline onto the fire that is your natural sexuality.

No. 2569710

>>2569669
Sounds about right, very small sample size but I met a “gay” tif for the first time in the wild and she called herself an uke and kept thirsting after the hairiest fattest dudes, it was mindboggling

No. 2569721

>>2569548
I've only ever seen this complaint come from 1) pick-me culture war grifter type women and 2) HSTS troon/femboy faggots that some people don't realize are males trying to cosplay the former

No. 2569772

>>2569674
I'm asking because of my hormonal imbalance makes me like borderline barashit lol.

No. 2569783

>>2569669
It’s laughable how much the nlog straight woman energy radiates from them but they want to claim to be an oppressed gay minority so bad. They seem to be dreaming all day of a massive roidpig dominating the tit-chopped twink they project onto but don’t you dare call them straight. Meanwhile Lesbians disgust them. Like “aiden” you are most “heteronormative” person this room kek. I’ve met sweet christian ladies in fandom who were more open to the idea of a man just being a bit feminine and caring than tifs who ironically enforce gender roles harder.

No. 2569962

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>>2569721
>>2569548
I don't mind if somebody does it in their own game but I would never pay for an indie game where the characters look like tumblrite creations. If I saw an ugly looking game I wouldn't buy it. The MC from the new Fable game looks fine fwiw

No. 2569969

>>2569772
In my experience birth control and ssris can affect a person's taste, but that's just me

No. 2570009

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progressives are the most racist people you will ever meet. they will asign races to fictional characters based merely in expressions they made.
racial theory for them is a normal thing. and they dare to lecture the rest of the world in racial matters. Pathetic.

No. 2570075

>>2570009
Yea, I hear that makes you really into certain guys. That's why a figured TIFs liking bara isn't left field but I guess that depends on how far long they are on the gender train.

No. 2570120

>>2569347
Isn't she a higurashi fan?

No. 2570139

>>2569347
>the uncomfortable irony that many girls who grew up with these images as major parts of their childhood were unaware of that fact. The offshoot subculture of RP and fanfiction
that surrounded these images/the young girls who USED them has always been beautiful to me
She confesses to it here. It’s a corruption/contamination fetish. She is titillated by the idea of underaged girls unknowingly interfacing with men’s sexual filth. Same way moids get off to cumming in unsuspecting women’s food, or rubbing their dicks on her personal items knowing she will use them afterwards. They’re getting off to covertly contaminating them while the girls innocently and unsuspectingly indulge.

No. 2570146

>>2570139
Can you rephrase the first sentence please nonna I'm having trouble understanding it

No. 2570162

>>2570146
NTA but if you mean:
>that surrounded these images/the young girls who USED them has always been beautiful to me
It’s part of the quote, anon just fucked up the greentext.

No. 2570165

>>2569548
AYRT they're actually all very normal women who are independent and happy being that way (some of them are into the girlboss nonsense and ascribe to Feminism Lite, where only the appealing/empowering platitudes exist), their preferred form of escapism just seems to exclusively be to have a pretty/hot/fashionable/flirty/attractive female character to embody. I'm not even knocking those things, it's just a little disheartening to hear them criticise female characters that don't embody them (or, at least don't in the most obvious way possible to them), especially when the men I play the same games with don't do that.

Also, these all are actual women I know and hang out with irl, not secret moids/troons or whatever. Doesn't matter if we're playing a hero shooter or a ttrpg, they always interact with female characters the same way (they even get miffed with me if my dnd character isn't a pretty elf or whatever like theirs is kek, and question why I even draw women who aren't 'pretty'). They are critical of male characters too btw, it's just not the same kinda sting to hear that as 'this woman doesn't fit in the box of acceptability I have for women in my head, so she is bad and unwanted'. Thankfully this is all in regards to fiction though, and usually not directed towards NPCs either, just PCs and protagonists.

No. 2570181

>>2570165
Do you find unconventional women attractive or is it the aesthetics that lure you in? I personally don't mind female characters who aren't super pretty but aren't ugly either, just very "what if male archetype but female?". Yea know, there's this thing people do where they assume any women that isn't a super sexed bimbo is a man actually and I've seen nonnas toss this at obviously female character designs. Somehow them looking butch is bad? I just don't get these people?

No. 2570228

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No. 2570230

>>2570162
Ohhhh thank you sm nonna

No. 2570236

>>2570228
ugly fat guys being called hot pissed me off unreasonably

No. 2570245

>>2570181
I just like interesting designs tbh, don't care if they're pretty or average or uggo kek. I guess I focus on other design elements (and what they say about the character and their role in the story/mechanics) in general and tend to view almost all characters in a platonic light– waifu and husbando enjoyers are alien to me lol (no disrespect to them, they seem to be having fun). So no, not attracted to them.

I don't get those reactions to butch designs either, especially when they can't be dubbed a case of 'draw a man, call it a woman', because all it does is further emphasise that what women can be and look like fits into a very narrow bracket and that their greatest value is sexual attractiveness. I'm not interested in seeing that pushed for fiction or real life, which fiction (and discussions surrounding it) can be the training wheels for.

No. 2570302

i like lackadaisy's work but my god dose the server seem like the most sterile no fun allowed thing i ever seen

No. 2570304

>>2570245
>waifu and husbando enjoyers
I find them weird too but moreso waifu lovers due my straightness kek. Finding them attractive makes sense I guess? But after that it starts becoming an obsession than a passing appreciation imo. I just can't seem enter that flow state no matter how many male characters I find attractive.

No. 2570339

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FNAF is like Yume Nikki in that you have to come up with your own conclusion if you want any answer for what the hell is going on. The difference is that you have to make your own interpretation for Yume Nikki because Kikiyama never wanted it to have a crystallized meaning. It's a weird game and whether it's even supposed to mean anything is up to the individual. Scott thought he could have something going with there being five murdered kids who possess animatronics with a killer running around and eventually getting murked by a bunny suit. But he gradually started adding more details when he noticed his game getting popular, realized that lore-baiting was a solid way to hook in viewers, threw in random details that still has fans scratching their heads, and retcons that don't even make any sense when you look at what the games tell us before Sister Location. Scott doesn't really know what he's doing. He lost his own plot years ago, which made it into one of the most horribly written franchises of all time. That's the hard pill to swallow for FNAFags.

No. 2570406

>>2570228
I fucking safe horny but also hate unsafe horny in equal measure. Both sides still harbor creeps.

No. 2570407

>>2569315
Fags have horrendous taste.

No. 2570423

>>2569653
>that's probably why so many tifs are into bara.
TIFs are into bara is a fucking cope. They're trying to convince themselves because they're true men ackshually!!! they love bara, but deep down they don't. Every time you see a TIF talk about liking bara, they're lying or truly tasteless or have zero standards due to self-esteem issues

No. 2570424

>>2570339
In my mind only the first four games are canon. They tell a nice self-contained story without going TOO far into sci-fi territory and that's it. Scott really shot himself in the foot when he decided to make everything revolve around the same 3 characters, he should have introduced a new location and maybe a copycat killer instead of reviving Afton a million times.

No. 2570556

>>2570120
Yes.
>>2570139
Ehhhh, I don't know if I think it's a full on fetish thing to me, I think she's just an Addy skinwalker who wants to consoom coom media but also get to waggle her finger at anyone doing it in a way that she doesn't like.

No. 2570563

>>2570228
Kek, so fucking accurate.

No. 2570651

>>2562271
What the are you talking about? It's cringe when it's used in OOC situations but praising your partner is much more intimate and sweet than whatever softcore BDSM lines the kids are coming up with these days

No. 2570652

>>2570228
>>2570406
I still don't understand what safe horny means

No. 2570661

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>>2569572
>bishi face = no bara
Okay, so if we remove bishi face and go with a big square head, are we going to pretend there aren't tons of women who are into Guts from Beserk? Bishi face or not, women don't strictly prefer the typical anime boy body type. Nobody out here is simping for fatties but to say no women are into bara like >>2569030 is just untrue and is usually indicative of someone who was watching school anime when they first started being a weeaboo. The point being made was that women aren't automatically into teenage looking mfers

No. 2570678

>>2570652
It's being horny in a way that makes you look non-threatening and inclusive so no one calls you out for being horny on main.

No. 2570697

>>2570661
>are we going to pretend there aren't tons of women who are into Guts from Beserk?
Not really related but I'm convinced from the contents of Berserk that Miura was a barely closeted bifag kek. I'm not saying this in a "Berserk is queer media!" Twitter way but in a "I don't think those scenes were just for shock value" way kek

No. 2570702

>>2570697
Ayrt I will do you one better and tell you Miura is fucking fag

No. 2570708

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>>2562762
That's not supposed to be a moan it's the sound you make when you're trying to keep your mouth shut to hold off on voicing your vulgar thoughts
>>2562894
Okay but it actually does bother me when I'm reading yaoi and they don't at least ask if the bottom is clean before going at it kek
>>2563446
Himejoshis constantly harrass straight women into pretending to like yuri by threatening them with misogny accusations then start seething when this inevitably happens kekkkk sorry but you reap what you sow
>>2563545
I can tell you're young because top vs bottom discourse has never been less prominent than it is now, kick back and thank fuck you weren't around just a decade ago
>>2564404
Hate that stupid face mark trend
>>2566807
Kekkk just imagine… the hypocritical 'misogyny' comments would roll in faster than you could blink
>>2569030
But these same retards clap like seals for characters like picrel because 'muh body diversity' AKA even bigger tits

No. 2570710

>>2570697
>>2570702
There's too much female rape in comparison to male rape for me to be convinced he's a fag. He only writes male rape when they're either little boys or look like femboys, which is a straight japanese male pedo trait

No. 2570717

>>2570702
I don't think he's completely unattracted to women (too much moidish grossness to be a coincidence) but it sure is weird how Guts AND Griffith were both raped by ugly bastards and have a one-sided abusive relationship kek
>>2570710
Could be, but most of those straight autopedos want to be molested by an ara ara onee-san, not an ugly old moid who is drawn in great detail. Either way, the fagginess in the source material is funny.

No. 2570721

>>2570717
No, he's an actual pedophile. He has a whole strip defending lolicon as a means to get real pedophiles not to touch children. He's known for having spent his dying years on idolmaster gachafagging for little girls. I dont doubt that hes probably a little into men because a gay pedophile is unshocking, but still.

No. 2570758

>>2570661
i dont know why people try to pretend women arent overwhelmingly onto bishies. If that werent the case the bishie artstyle wouldnt exist. A few women being into guts doesnt negate the fact that most women prefeer bishies. Whats up with barafags and feeling like they are being prosecuted because people point out most women dont like guys that look like some moid's homosexual power fantasy.

No. 2570788

>>2570758
But is this true for non-weeb women?

No. 2570791

>>2570788
I thought non weeb women liked Adam Driver

No. 2570797

>>2570788
>talking about anime
>but what about normalfag women who date 3Dpigs
i dont give a shit about fleshie fuckers and this isnt about them

No. 2570819

>>2570797
You understand the contradiction of saying women are "overwhelmingly" into one thing and then saying "I don't care what the average normal woman is into", right?
Though the whole conversation is just another dumb cycle anyway.

No. 2570824

>>2570819
The average normal woman is mindbroken by the UMP, they’re irrelevant.

No. 2570866

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>>2570009
They literally do equate real-world races to fictional ones, all while defending pedoshit if not posting about how they want to fuck the child characters themselves

No. 2570867

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>>2570866
Picrel. Least pedophile botw/totk fan

No. 2570872

>>2570009
There's literally an episode where the family (except Darwin—he became a dog) got turned into humans and they were all white lmao

No. 2570880

>>2570302
Elaborate? I like Lackadaisy too but I never use public discord servers so I haven't seen what it's like in there.

No. 2571098

>>2570872
Promotional images have celebrated darwin as black officially. Everything else is true though.

No. 2571276

>>2571098
He's voiced by a black kid, so that makes sense.

>>2570872
It's easy to forget that Darwin is a fish and not just Gumball's adopted brother, because for a second I was like
>Why did they make him a dog?
>Oh right, he's a fish who sleeps in a bowl on Gumball's nightstand, he just talks and goes to school for some reason
Kid shows are weird

No. 2571304

Why are men so adamant no woman could possibly like this game when the gameplay can look like this. Eve is accidentally a perfect self-insertable supermodel barbie due to her lack of personality

No. 2571335

>>2571304
The gameplay looks really fun. I was so conflicted about this one. On the one hand, fun looking gameplay and I like playing as female characters. On the other hand, pretty as Eve is, her design is just too much for me. Bayonetta was more tolerable because it was more tongue in cheek. Is that the base game or is it modded? I was thinking of waiting to buy it on PC for mods in case people made outfits that toned down the fanservice.

No. 2571345

>>2570009
I have no idea what this mega autismo graphic means, but Darwin has been considered "black" for a long time because his VA's have been black. Don't tell me some humorless zoomer took that joke and made it weird.

No. 2571351

>>2570867
>Least pedophile botw/totk fan
Anon those are extremely popular, mainstream games. Most of the people who played it don't even know what a "loli" is

No. 2571353

>>2570009
i'm black and this doesn't feel racist to me. i guess it's iffy that the wives are both asian but that's a big nitpick

No. 2571356

>>2570652
Woke horny, basically

No. 2571370

>>2571353
I don't think it's that racist either, just very autistic

No. 2571376

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>>2571304
Eve and the game itself seems to lack a personality to me which makes it unappealing. Maybe I live under a rock but the only thing I knew about this game is the fact that the devs wanted an attractive female protagonist and this image from an older ugly character design thread.

No. 2571381

>>2571376
Other than the leather jacket + jean combo, these are all fugly.

No. 2571388

>>2571376
How the fuck do men get off to this?

No. 2571409

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>>2570661
Fucking Baki has a bishie face but he's still bara as hell kek. Baki the Grappler is about as close to bara as a manga can reasonably get without literally showing the characters' cocks.

No. 2571411

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>>2571388
You need to understand moid vision

No. 2571418

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>>2571304
>>2571381
I looked at more outfits and there are a few that are pretty cute and surprisingly some that cover her body completely. But most are bodysuits and bodycon clothes. Many fetish-y, ugly, or weird looking. The "dress-up" aspect falls flat when the designs aren't particularly stylish. https://gamerant.com/stellar-blade-all-outfits-costumes-nano-suits-eve-lily-adam-drone/

No. 2571428

>>2571409
Baki is the only good looking character in the manga/anime too. It's fucking depressing to be recommended it because of the 'hot buff guys' and realize that.

No. 2571433

>>2570872
That episode poking fun at the "ideal american family" and not meant to be accurate. Which is why Darwin became a dog, even though he's not a pet. And Robert lost 200 pounds, and grew a full head of hair. Even the car was changed to be more in line with the American ideal.

No. 2571444

>>2571376
The last three make me think they took inspiration from the interior of a sports car. God it's so ugly.

No. 2571448

>>2571428
I'm honestly of the opinion that you'd almost have to be a gay man or a closeted gay man to be able to sit through all of it

No. 2571452

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>>2570661
>>2569666
>>2569633
>>2569627
>>2569523
I made a chart. It only uses characters from non-BL IPs for the sake of impartiality. Basically, you have ikemen in the middle, which is just a hot guy who isn't bara or bishounen. Make the character less muscular, younger, or more androgynous, and you end up with a bishie, but if the character is more muscular, masculine, or hairy, he becomes more bara-like. My examples probably weren't perfect, they're just sort of the first characters I thought of.

No. 2571453

>>2571376
I don't like the majority of her outfits, they're just way too busy. The red dress and white dress in >>2571418 are nice though. I'm legit surprised at how ugly so many of her outfits are. It's only been out on PC for a week or two, maybe some day modders will make more pretty outfits for her. It's a shame there aren't more character action games like that where you can play as a female character.

No. 2571454

>>2570866
This is the kind of shit you sperg about if you have ZERO real-life problems.

No. 2571457

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>>2570009
This isn't racist KEK. Retarded? Yeah, definitely, but some of you are thinking too hard about it. I don't think some twitter user thinking cartoon animals would be minorities if they were human is that bad.

No. 2571458

>>2571452
Needs shota category(bait)

No. 2571459

>>2571304
>>2571376
>>2571418
I thought this game looked cool, but the drama and attitude from moids made me less interested in playing it more than the ugly outfits.

No. 2571468

>>2571458
No it doesn't

No. 2571469

>>2571458
Based.

No. 2571476

>>2571458
Theoretically it'd go shota > trap > bishounen > etc for the full spectrum.

No. 2571481

>>2571476
trap is for faggots it shouldnt be included

No. 2571525

>>2571481
Well bara is also for faggots kek, but faggots that actually acknowledge that they like men. Trapshit is for trannies, porn addicts, and faggots in denial.

>>2571476
>>2571469
I'm not putting children and trannyslop in my chart. Go pound sand

No. 2571540

>>2571468
Even if you dislike it I think it kind of does because people will accuse bishies of being little boys when they aren't, they need a reference for comparison.

No. 2571552

>>2570661
I never said that women don’t have different tastes I was only disagreeing on some anons definition of “bara-style”
>>2571409
he’s really not

No. 2571554

>>2570339
I'm the one who posted this image originally back when i was baiting millenials who were pissed at fnaf-posting because it was cringe or whatever, glad to know some of us are still here in lolcor

No. 2571562

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>>2570424
Scott doesn't care tbh, he just wanted money because that was his main goal, the franchise should have been handed to someone who has experience working on survival horror games but steel wool ended up with it ofc, and now we have another poppy playtime in our hands. They say it has to do with it becoming a franchise beloved by children? But they could have went the route of pg stuff for kids like Paranorman or Addams Family with mild violence that is acceptable for someone young, the new game doesn't even look like fnaf to me

No. 2571565

>>2570009
Im fine with this as long as they aren't screeching at people portraying them as other races

No. 2571567

>>2571458
Couldn’t shota’s fit into any of those though? I’ve never seen shota bara (also haven’t looked) but it’s gotta exist somewhere. Someone out there wants buff little boys

No. 2571574

>>2570009
>White people are rats
True(bait)

No. 2571575

>>2571567
hilarious mental image, I refuse to believe it's a thing

No. 2571583

>>2554079
Only manhwa i ever read Yoonbum is hot i liked seeing him get abused desu

No. 2571587

>>2571567
Basically how hxh looks to me

No. 2571591

>>2570009
this image is so true to me

No. 2571592

>>2571567
>shota bara
Camp Buddy, kinda. It's definitely a thing though; just search up any prolific bara artist.

No. 2571613

>>2571575
Kek same I just pictured like a super jacked third grader

No. 2571627

>>2571567
This game has them. >>2569315
Also furries, which ig is what would be beyond bara? Gay dudes get away with a lot of wacky shit on Google play unlike other particular games.

No. 2571810

>>2571592
>camp buddy
Isn't the creator a tif?

No. 2571852

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>>2570009
I go by the rule of thumb I had since I was a kid. Unless a character's race is clearly established, nonhuman characters would be the race and ethnicity of their voice actors IF they were drawn as people. But I make an exception for Darwin because having his human form be a black kid would be extremely awkward considering he was bought and sold from a black alley salesman.

No. 2571987

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Give me a fucking break.

No. 2571996

>>2571987
They're seriously mad that a/b/o spells abo? Are non-aussies even aware of that term?

No. 2572057

>>2571987
Finally, someone's standing up for all of the Aboriginal Austrailians in the wolfcock mpreg community

No. 2572302

>>2571987
Lol as an australian who gives a fuck and unless you’re completely retarded the context should be enough to know that isn’t what the person means

No. 2572306

>>2571996
>Are non-aussies even aware of that term?
As a dumb American, no

No. 2572311

>>2571567
>>2571587
>Someone out there wants buff little boys
Yeah this is just shonen in a nutshell

No. 2572320

>>2572302
aside from the usual reason for this kind of nonsense, I'm starting to wonder if these people can't actually read a complete sentence/comprehend inference or context and only see individual words floating in a void

No. 2572322

>>2571987
that's like trying to censor the idiom "a chink in the armor" just because it contains a word that could be construed as a slur in other contexts.

No. 2572599

>>2571613
I can't stop laughing. Sounds like a nightmare.

No. 2572605

>>2571458
They banned her for being based

No. 2572608

>>2571376
She poses like she needs to shit

No. 2572616

>>2571852
I wouldn’t really take that episode as a “canon humanization”. the dad is way fatter than that like >>2571433 said. there is an episode at the end that humanizes some of the kids at school but I still feel like gijinka artists should have full reign/creativity because policing gijinkas either way is just retarded and annoying.

No. 2572791

i see a lot of fellow zoomers say things along the lines of "omg this would be way better if instead of two girls fighting over a man they were in love with each other!" and i think, maybe it was fun the first time, but do they not think that media would get very boring eventually if all you saw were subversions of a trope all over and over and over and over again? making that subversion a trope itself. like maybe not everything needs to be toxic doomed old woman yuri

No. 2572963

>>2571987
Time to cancel every author who has ever used the word sniggering I guess

No. 2572966

>>2572791
I mean, people used to say that all the time with male slash ships, so I guess it's just a repeat of that but with the thing that's more 'in' with their online circles or whatever. The whole 'love triangle but what if the non-mc characters kissed instead' isn't new (hell I remember seeing it for Twilight back in the day). It is an annoying and cheap response for easy likes that really just highlights dissatisfaction with a piece of media/its core tropes and an unwillingness to stray from what's popular or easy to consume and find something that actually suits your tastes.

No. 2572990

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I just want retards like this to fuck off out of fandoms already but the amount of people enabling them is insane (and the artist turned them both into tims)

No. 2573045

Seeing people have a bitch australia banned silent hill f and wonder why. It is a school girl torture sim in practice from the looks of it. My country should ban more games that torture or objectify underage girls for moid titillation actually “muh censorship! you aussies are dictateship1!1” be damned

No. 2573046

>>2572990
We can even have normal fucking lesbians anymore

No. 2573051

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>>2572990
It really feels like this

No. 2573066

>>2572990
Can we stop shoving dicks into everything? Is no one sick of this? Like the whole cock thing? And it's always on the dominant partner, too?

No. 2573067

>>2573066
Nerds are sexually repressed/frustrated and it makes them reach painful levels of heterosexual.

No. 2573071

>>2572990
The artist is a troon? They have very punchable avatar

No. 2573082

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>>2572791
That's what I don't like about shipping. Shippers are generally stupid. Most of them don't care if the ship makes sense. They're just horny dumbasses who think two characters who would most definitely not have chemistry somehow would just because their brain thinks it's "aesthetic" or whatever. They can't even write the ship in a setting or a plot divergence where it can make sense. They mostly just draw shitty memes and art for it and when they do try to write it, it sucks because fanfiction is generally badly written. The only time I will take a fanon ship over a canon ship is if the source material fumbled so bad that its canon ship doesn't obey its own writing, but that's rare. Yeah sure fans can ship because it's fandom and "muh creativity" but it's still a concept that runs generally unintellectual when you look at what the source tells us about the characters vs. what faggots THINK they got right about the material. This goes for heterofags, yaoifags, and yurifags. Most ships are stupid, and the worst part about shipwars is their implication that fandoms have to revolve around such stupid takes of who belongs with what when there is so much more you can do in a fandom. I think that's what I hate the most about shippers. They devolve fandom to their pornrot and braindead humor that characters with absolutely zero romantic chemistry would and should totally fuck and get married because "I don't care! Asuka would totally fuck Rei even though Asuka would never touch a woman like that in her life! Guts would totally be a bottom for Griffith, a man he canonically doesn't fuck with!". Dumb ships imply that the person doesn't understand character dynamics enough, which strikes me as a person who doesn't keep up with what the source material is actually telling them. This is a branch in mischaracterization, and people who don't care to get the characterization right every time they interact with the source material do not rub me as real fans.

No. 2573114

>>2573067
I'm straight and even I don't think about dick all day.

No. 2573143

>>2573082
Whats funny is that shippers deludedly believe they’re doing some deep character analysis by shipping but all they actually want is to create and enjoy porn of them
>inb4 some deluded retard pretends like they do both

No. 2573206

>>2572990
I have no idea if the artist is a troon or not I just want to know what real biological women get out of timshit. Obviously the cuntboy retards are self hating hetshippers who want to feel superior to other hetshippers, but I have no idea what trannies do for people. What are we doing here? Can't even say it's yaoi because of the tits, it's like the strangest form of female futashit. No I do not in fact want to see a stunning twans womyn get fucked when I'm looking for m/f

No. 2573474

>>2573082
There's definitely people who get way too extreme about it, but for most people, fandom is like playing with dolls. They take characters they like and put them in situations that canon doesn't explore, and shipping is just one of many ways to do that. What would the point of fandom be if people just focused on the same things that canon already tells us about?
Putting two characters together doesn't instantly make them ''ooc'', it just makes things not line up with canon anymore, and that's fine, as long as people are aware of it. The one thing that I will say is annoying is when people make this about characters' ''sexualities'', which is not the same as pairing two random characters together. I mostly enjoy m/m and f/f ships, but I don't really insist on sexuality headcanons that line up with my ships. It's just for fun, and in a lot of cases I know it's not what would happen in canon, but in the end it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of it.

No. 2573480

>>2573474
This. It's fun to make up scenarios between characters you'd love to explore but the show never delved on. Why does it matter if it's canon or not? As long they're themselves, nothing's wrong with a bit of shipping. It only becomes bad once you become deluded in your own shipping oils kek.

No. 2573481

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>>2533085
Just popping in to say that the K-pop Demon film is everything I hoped for (won’t spoil) (hope nonas also love it!)

No. 2573555

>>2573206
>I just want to know what real biological women get out of timshit.
tims and tifs are more or less drawn indistinguishably from men and women. it's visually the fantasy of a regular guy with a pussy/a regular woman with a dick. women into women with penises are probably straight/bi, if they aren't straight up virtue signalling, it's not too complicated. gotta remember that gendies somehow rarely encounter the creepy transbians

No. 2573558

>>2572990
Moids and spicy straights can not conceive of sex that doesn't involve cock

No. 2573584

>>2573143
I feel like you should just step off the internet for a bit

No. 2573722

>>2573082
I agree and it's annnoying as fuck. "why focus on what is already in canon?" because the canon is why I like the story and characters, not Jason or Tiffany's OC skinwalking the protagonist and collecting a harem

No. 2573747

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Maybe I’m just being grouchy because I truly do not mind yuri shippers but why do they talk like this when all 3 members spent the whole film drooling over the boyband, they could not have been made more aggressively heterosexual if the film crew tried

No. 2573749

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>>2573747
Another one: this is literally a scene where they’re watching one of the guys’ shirt pop off to reveal his shiny abs before they start screaming with horny glee, I don’t get what planet these people are on

No. 2573766

>>2573481
I didn't expect Soda pop to be as catchy as it was, but Idol was even better as a villain song. Really loved the choreology in the Golden sequence, wish we got to see them dance more. The girls have really nice chemistry between then that makes it easy to see why they're friends.

No. 2573771

>>2573749
>>2573747
So much buzzwords, can twitter users speak like normal people?

No. 2573786

>>2573754
Ah but you see, they're not shipping because they like the chemistry. The girls are offended that it wasn't gay and woke enough and are pretending the slash shipping is canon to try to colonize it, and the guys just fetishize lesbianism and don't care at all about canonization or chemistry or anything that isn't coom.

No. 2573798

>>2573747
>>2573749
What makes me mad about this is when you can so obviously tell they're just virtue signaling about diversity and girl power and not actually interested because they're talking about girls with zero chemistry between them. Same with people saying about Severance "fuck Mark Helly and Gemma should get together!" or any other love triangle. I could respect posting with your pussy but not whatever this is kek.

No. 2573803

>>2571540
You have to be retarded to think a bishie is a little boy.

No. 2573807

>the women are straight
>get forced yuri shipping
>the women are lesbians
>get tranified het shipping
Why are people so weird about this

No. 2573813

>>2573481
It's amazing and I love it. You get friendship AND hot guys
>>2573798
Shipper can ship whatever they want and whatever but I just want to see actual good straight romance plotlines AND female characters being good characters with the power of female friendship. Fuck your yuri shit

No. 2573815

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>>2573798
Right? Like >>2573786 says, it just reads like a stubborn response to the complete absence of yuri undertones rather than a genuinely felt tweet. Crucially, these are the same people who got prematurely angry during the trailer-drop that “straggots” would ignore the female characterisation in favour of the males, but as it turns out it’s been the Juni x Rumi shippers creating the best content of Rumi while the former makes empty cope tweets

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No. 2573842

>>2573816
Just say you hate het and move on. Not everyone is miserable like you are

No. 2573846

>>2573816
maybe these are the people who made fletcher terrified to come out of the closet as straight

No. 2573889

>>2573815
I'm not even into K-poop but isn't it a genre predominantly made of straight girls who yume the idols?

No. 2573891

>>2573749
I'm assuming these are yuritroon incels who can't handle (fictional) girls ogling at pretty boys.

No. 2573919

>>2573813
>>2573891
Aren't you just acting needlessly pressed over the fact that people don't like your little straight ship? I do agree that they're dumb for even engaging in, as you said, aggressively heterosexual media and that they should have higher standards instead of relying on crumbs and delusions for their f/f needs, but expressing disappontment over yet another series shoving in unneeded straight romance is perfectly valid. Why are you assuming that anyone who doesn't want to see hetshit (or just men in general) is actually a tranny? You've been sperging out over ''shippers'' but I think you just have a problem with lesbians, or women that just have 0 interest in men, which is unfathomable to you.

No. 2573949

>>2573747
>>2573749
Kek this is one of those things himes will try to convince you only happens with male characters. Nope, people just like shipping together any two characters regardless of what their sexes are or how much sense it makes. It's a universal constant.

No. 2573955

>>2573474
>fandom is like playing with dolls
This. Love playing with my dollies

No. 2574046

>>2573919
found the yurifag. LMAO at "unnecessary." What makes het romance necessary in your oh-so-enlightened opinion then? Isn't that the exact argument they make against gay stuff? Just say you hate het and move on.
Maybe I want to see good friendship AND good romance coexist? It's people like you who thinks it's need to be either/or.

No. 2574047

>>2573481
I'm looking forward to watching it tonight even though only the guy with the bangs is cute and the rest are uggos.

No. 2574048

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Why is people's first reaction to a relatively feminine looking man is to want to impregnate him? Fags and porn brained women alike say this.
Is the theory that men see feminine men as replacement and superior women true?

No. 2574051

>>2574048
It's just a meme, a joke, autistic anon.

No. 2574059

>>2574051
You say that but this is the kind of shit that leads to trans shit and giving characters mastectomy scars. Especially if you see an attractive man and think "that's basically a woman"

People don't think this about baras.

No. 2574062

>>2574048
Porn trains you to want to see women and anything that looks like a woman sexually degraded

No. 2574065

>>2574048
When a woman says it it's a joke, when a moid does it then its just a fetish. None are being literal about it.

No. 2574069

>>2574059
Anon…they absolutely do make pregnant jokes about masculine men.

No. 2574074

>>2574048
It started getting popular around when the plap plap get pregnant moid memes were rising too. So just the usual retarded fangirls unable to sexualize men without using the exact same degrading language men use specific to the female body

No. 2574077

>>2570708
>Himejoshis constantly harrass straight women into pretending to like yuri by threatening them with misogny accusations then start seething when this inevitably happens kekkkk sorry but you reap what you sow
Ayrt I don't even do that or interact with fandoms kek, I saw a dumb tweet trending and wanted to make fun of it. Are you even sure the 2 things you're talking about are being done by the same people? It sounds like you're combining himejoshis on twitter with GC lesbians. Why would people hating on twitter himejoshis have to be held responsible for the actions of twitter himejoshis they're not even a part of kek

No. 2574106

>>2574074
And in the process they end up describing pregnancy as something that happens to the sexually submissive.

No. 2574114

>>2574074
>retarded fangirls unable to sexualize men without using the exact same degrading language
I'll never get over anons using the "rape correction" pedophile meme for their anime husbando, why can't they just make up their own shit

No. 2574123

>>2574114
Men have stolen so much from women i dont have a problem with it, plus it makes moids mad.

No. 2574136

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How do you navigate wider fandom as a TERF/anti-troon/gender critical woman? Are you just totally crypto? Have you given up on participating?

No. 2574141

>>2574136
I've given up on making friends. I just reblog pretty art and read nice fics. I don't try to interact with anyone anymore. It's more peaceful this way.

No. 2574148

>>2574136
Crypto. Otherwise do as the other anon and at least be selective of company. Radfem communities online have good chances of having Fandom girlies just so one can avoid at least the grosser/ more annoying pitfalls like giving a penis to a woman/ vagina to a man or saying this character would legit be an ally or an Enby

No. 2574215

I think I've figured out the solution to every configuration of yaoi/het/yuri infighting.
All romance media is lame shit written for wish fulfilment above all, and as misogyny permeates everything in society all romance media will reflect misogyny in some way or other. If you aren't personally attracted to the subject, you will recognize the bullshit and misogyny involved. If you are into it, you have a vested interest in ignoring it.
It's no accident that in the fujo infights, nearly everyone on the pro-fujo side has a yaoi fetish and everyone on the anti-fujo side does not. This applies similarly to het and yuri. I'll start taking their arguments seriously (they meaning anyone who is in a ship war on any side) when they don't just-so-happen to align with their sexual preferences.

No. 2574255

>>2574136
semi-crypto. half my mutuals are terves and the other half are gendies lmao. i keep politics off my blog but if they pay attention to who i RB from they'll figure it out on their own.

No. 2574271

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>>2573919
> your little straight ship?
It’s canon. They sing a love song, blush at each other, go on a date, etc. all of which is part of her story. Calling her a lesbian just to ship her with the other band members ignores her canon characterisation in favour of making her a toy to play with for HCs.
> expressing disappontment over yet another series shoving in unneeded straight romance is perfectly valid.
Thinking that something is “unneeded” just because it’s designed for a female audience who happens not to include you is incredibly childish. I thought you guys were all about female empowerment and women-centric stores? This film is just that, but here you are whining regardless because it was never about feminism for you.
> I think you just have a problem with lesbians, or women that just have 0 interest in men
As I stated, yuri is fine. But himejoshis are not a special class above being called out for hypocrisy, not when they spent a month building up to the film daring anyone not to appreciate the female characterisation, only to ignore it themselves because it didn’t have the romantic lesbian undertones THEY wanted. This being despite the film having some of the most fun female characterisation I’ve seen in animation in a while backed by an artist team led by majority non-TIF/TIM women. But who cares about any of that, “because it’s not yuri” right?

No. 2574275

>>2574215
>It's no accident that in the fujo infights, nearly everyone on the pro-fujo side has a yaoi fetish and everyone on the anti-fujo side does not.
I don't know what you're expecting, do you think people who don't care would have an investment in arguing about homosex here if all places?
Though, there are definitely times where people say "I don't read yaoi, but I think this is stupid" "I read yaoi, but I think this is a point" "I read yuri, het, and yaoi and I think this."
Sure, they could be lying, but that's just more of a point to not take those dumb fights as anything serious.

No. 2574284

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>>2574271
This again. They literally state in the film that the flaws each band member are hiding (beyond the literal monster thing) are their fears, insecurities, personality flaws and lack of sense of belonging. Word for word! But let’s ignore the film’s focus on female character development to go on a far-left tangent so we can justify how these complex (straight) women are 100% actually in love with each other AKA erase female characterisation to focus on shipping HCs instead AKA the exact thing yuri fans have been accusing other women of “internalised misogyny” over non-stop

No. 2574286

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>>2574284
Like, how much more obvious could it be that these people simply do not care about female characters unless they can ship them together? And again, this would be perfectly fine (because delusional shipping fun is not illegal) if these weren’t the same people constantly harassing other women by accusing them of doing exactly that.

No. 2574288

>>2574048
It's safe horny bullshit. It's more acceptable to joke about getting a man pregnant than it is to express that you want to fuck him in a more selfish or aggressive way.
>>2574106
Hate this shit.

No. 2574302

>>2574136
I've given up. I use social media and don't hide I'm a terf but I made sure early on I wouldn't have too many followers to avoid issues.

No. 2574341

Am I the only one who thinks this insistence on lesbianism for xyz fictional characters is… regressive? Misogynistic? Idk. It feels similar to troonshit in a very specific way. Like, you have to fit an lgbt stereotype to be of good moral character. I’m not sure if I’m explaining myself correctly.
Most young women are heterosexual. I think they should be allowed to have favorable representation. But all of these fandom activists insist that if a woman is likable and around other likable women, they have to be gay. Otherwise, there is something “wrong”. Insert endless whining and callout posts about it.

I don’t want to sound like “heterosexuals r opressed boohoo” but I don’t think this sends a good message to young girls. It’s just reinforces toxic heteronormative stereotypes. You can’t be likable and heterosexual. There’s no such thing as moral heterosexuality.
It would be far better for young women if they saw good examples of female characters/ heterosexuality portrayed in media.
Feels like we went from “shit female representation in shit het relationships to” “good female representation, no heterosexuality permitted”.
I’d really like to see better het female representation. As the largest demographic of women, obv it’s going to be far more helpful.
I know heterosexuality irl is fucked, because of moids, but it would be a good idea to show women via example what it could look like ideally. Raise their expectations, encourage them not to settle.

I know I’m onto something when every rare het parting with a good dynamic are called “lesbians”, every decent het male character is called “babygirl”, “wife”, etc.

No. 2574343

>>2574284
At this point I’m convinced women are so conditioned to accept misogyny as the norm that they interpret misogynistic oppression as queer oppression. They either don’t process misogyny as the issue, or are too afraid to point it out, and hide behind more “safe” grievance politics. The only valid way to point out the issues with a typical female upbringing is to present it as gayshit. They just reassign misogynistic oppression to qweer opression.

No. 2574344

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>>2572990
What's with trannies and queerios inserting cocks in contexts devoid of it?

No. 2574350

>>2574341
It's a trend and part of the broader movement of making homosexuality (sorry, "queerness") more cool and desirable than being straight and not being trans.
Liking hetshipping is boring, maybe even homophobic. Yaoi is boring now, plus if you like it you just hate female characters. That just leaves us with yuri, which is subversive and more progressive. It's all virtue signaling.
I love femslash but I wish all those people would drop it and move on to the next big thing, they're so annoying. Just as I wish "queers" would stop fetishizing homosexuality and leave lesbians alone.

No. 2574384

>>2573807
It's like these retards has a fetish on conversion therapy

No. 2574504

>>2574215
It really isn't. You can have romance without misogyny. Not everyone is miserable like you are.

No. 2574509

>>2574136
I'm in visual novel fandoms and those aren't really infested with troons. So I'm good.

No. 2574513

>>2574341
No, I get what you mean nonnie, it definitely feels misogynistic in some way to erase the fact that the vast majority of women are attracted to men. I think part of it is that moids are uncomfortable when straight/bi women sexualize men or male characters, they don't like hearing about it so they make every female character a heckin' wholesome progressive lesbian instead. The fact that they all fetishize lesbians helps, of course.

No. 2574514

>>2574341
Not at all. I think the same way.
the qweers roll their eyes at "good het representation" but they forget that thousands of years of misogyny exists and that WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THAT. And just because moids suck IRL doesn't mean they have to suck in fiction. 2D is proof that men as a concept aren't inherently bad.
So true about the "babygirl" part. Why the fuck do they do that?

No. 2574527

>>2574509
I would think VNs are prime breeding grounds for tranny bullshit, I'm surprised. Or are you specifically into otome/BL ones?

No. 2574561

>>2574341
Absolutely, and you should say it. Another thing to note is the tendency of himejoshis to blame women for their heterosexuality, acting like they “choose” to like moids and so deserve male shittiness, is also parallel to the traditional justifications for het abuse. You “chose” your husband, so anything negative is your fault and therefore deserved. Himes use patriarchal rhetoric all the time and just keep getting away with it.

No. 2574562

>>2574527
This is surprising to me too, everything animu has a massive troon audience. Add the fact that majority of vns are some variation of porn slop, jap men writing fembots with no personality (omg doku doku chan is a woman, and she thinks JUST like me! This is so gender euphoric!), shit ton of lolishit and you have the perfect tranny magnet. Even the bl/otome side is fujotif paradise.

No. 2574618

>>2574341
I agree. On one hand it looks like the ones doing this shit try to push tranny shit down everyone's throat and pretend lesbianism is just super intense female friendship because god forbid lesbians want to fuck each other in a normal way I guess. On the other hand the way people talk about straight fangirls having the audacity of having husbandos and/or shipping male characters together suspiciously reminds me of my batshit crazy religious relatives who think women should live in shame if they kiss and hold hands with a guy out of wedlock.

No. 2574622

>>2574048
You sperg about this meme every thread

No. 2574657

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>>2574136
I state in my bio that my blog is politics-free and just focused on fandom and then never acknowledge anything gender-related. I'm surprised more people don't do this. Nobody has ever accused me of being a terf and I'm too old to care about potential callout posts
>>2574341
There's nothing wrong with yurishipping for fun, but there's 100% a mentality in terminally online fandoms that het is bad and boring. It reminds me of "wahhh fujoshis are fetishizing gay men but if you are one yourself that's so valid and cool". The end result is lots of fandom women pretending to be bisexual / lesbian or being socially conditioned to troon out because they like men "in a gay way". I think it's because teenagers see being gay as a fandom and want to be understood and be special and unique and different from other people in a meaningful way.
Most people are het and end up with the opposite sex. It's not evil or boring or shameful to be a woman attracted to men and I wish super online teenage girls would know that. I also don't think heterosexuals are oppressed. It feels more centered around misogyny and shame.

No. 2574671

>>2574527
I play both otome/bl and personally I've found otome communities to have relatively less number of gendies, they sometimes hijack conversations reeeing about representation but the average otome player tends to be more normie adjacent. In BL communities, though, I can't post a single hot man art without some fujotif screaming about how "gay" she is for that guy and how she wants to fuck him with her imaginary penis.

No. 2574753

>>2574657
> I think it's because teenagers see being gay as a fandom
I think this isn't talked about enough, but yep, the terminaly online LGBT/spicy straight and "queers" have an extremely fandom-like view of gayness and "queerness", and a lot of them might as well be doing RP. The obsession with colecting hyperspecific labels is like a teenager making a Mary Sue OC that is a half vampire quarter kitsune eight mermaid space princess with an angel wing+demon wing combo and heterochromia and a sharingan. The obsession with flags (especially the pinterest aesthetic colour palette ass ones) is also extremely fandom-y (ironically, I'd compare this to millenials taking a pottermore quizz and then obsessing over hufflepuff or whatever memorabilia), and their focus on "discoving your identity" being so separate from any irl importance/being such a self made issue is very roleplay-like.
I don't think it's surprising that fandoms in general have become infested with these types.

>>2574671
I'm assuming you're talking of mostly jp VNs? I'm very new to VNs but I do get the impression of OEVN otome being prime aiden grounds. I assume your typical terminaly online aiden has a fried attention span and gets automatically filtered by such a text heavy medium unless it's written in pure tumblr theather kid style with constant online lingo/memes.

No. 2574836

>>2574509
You must have been avoiding DDLC, Fate and WTC fandoms then. It's an infestation.

No. 2574865

>>2574527
I don't know about BL but otome attracts none of those people. especially since they're the type who complain about the problematique LI's and age gaps an incest. As for the male oriented VN's such as for the Nasuverse, they don't have trannies as tumblrites to that extent either, probably because of the "iT'S a porN gAme!" reputation.
>>2574562
Depends what games you play. For instance, the Nasuverse has the best female characters in male oriented animeshit ever. It's why I don't read shounenslop anymore.
>>2574753
This is the problem inherent to creating a culture around sexuality. Also yes the OELVN's are for the aidens and furries, JP is where it's at.
>>2574836
I am in the Fate fandom and it really depends what part of the internet you're on. Of course if you go to Tumblr you'll find aidens. But the very core of Fate isn't something that attracts their ilk in large numbers.

No. 2574872

>>2574136
Is liking gay and gnc characters too woke? A lot of faves are lgb and gnc and I don't want gendies thinking I'm cool with them.

No. 2574877

>>2574872
Just like whatever you like Anon/ don't let gendies taint your enjoyment of stuff too much

No. 2574889

>>2574872
Not at all. If someone normal doesn't like the GNC characters then who will treat them like normal and not like they have super special gender souls?

No. 2574895

>>2574850
>>2574865
I don't know about TIMs, but I think TIFs don't latch onto Fate that much for the same reason they don't latch onto stuff like Highschool DxD: It's too haremshit for them, you spend 99% of the novel as a male PoV interacting with cute girls that are meant to be love interests and it turns them off.

No. 2574902

>>2574895
That makes it perfect for people like me who doesn't mind that as long as the characters and romance are written well.

No. 2575005

>>2574504
You mean in fiction, right? Any examples or just describe how.you would do it yourself? No 3DPD please

No. 2575023

>>2574513
Correct me if i'm wrong but don't most of the ones shaming women for being het and complaining about hetshit are actual women? I would say i can tell most of the time when it's a tim doing it, but judging from the screenshots posted it looks like it's actual women. But the thing is, most women are not lesbian or even bisexual, they are extremely straight. What's the profile of the average female hime? Age, type of content they engage with related and unrelated to fandom, what type of queerio they identify as, etc.
>>2574561
>>2574657
>>2574341
Kind of off topic, but what do you think about women having relationships with men irl? I think a lot of this hime yuri sperging is just women trying to get away from misogyny. Why do women need "good" het representation? With what end goal?

No. 2575034

>>2575023
>Why do women need "good" het representation? With what end goal?
Depends. Good representation can either mean accurate/realistic representation or positive representation. And in the case of heterosexual relationships we know both definitions contradict each other. In the case of "positive representation" the goal is obviously escapism. I assume if someone wants accurate representation and isn't delusional they want to show what it's really like to be dating or married to a man as a woman, the good sides, the bad sides, things that can be taboo depending on your culture, etc. but that's usually not what people want to talk about in fandoms.

No. 2575073

>>2574046
>What makes het romance necessary in your oh-so-enlightened opinion then?
Nothing, it's never necessary. But to answer a bit more seriously, I can stomach it when 1) the female lead has a proper personality, backstory and motivations not tied to her relationship with a man and 2) there's a main plot line unrelated to romance.
>Just say you hate het and move on.
I never denied that, though? I'll automatically skip any piece of media that gets marketed in a way that makes it clear that hetero romance is a big focus. And so I end up feeling disappointed when a series could otherwise be good, but they decide to randomly add romance that nobody (besides you, apparently) asked for. I don't cope with headcanon ships in that case though, I simply move on to a series actually worth my time.
>>2574271
>It’s canon. They sing a love song, blush at each other, go on a date, etc. all of which is part of her story.
That doesn't help your case at all, that means the movie did exactly what I described - shoved in an unnecessary hetero romance.
>I thought you guys were all about female empowerment and women-centric stores? This film is just that, but here you are whining regardless because it was never about feminism for you.
So are you saying feminism is when women are allowed to express interest in.. men!? Listen to yourself. I think the movie should've just advertised itself as a straight romance in the first place instead of seemingly baiting people into thinking it would be something more than that. There's a lot of media for you oh-so-opressed straight women, I don't know why you're crying so much over this one movie being criticized.
>because it didn’t have the romantic lesbian undertones THEY wanted
No, it's because it had men as romantic love interests taking up the focus. I don't think people would've complained if there was 0 romance at all instead.

No. 2575151

>>2575073
>I think the movie should've just advertised itself as a straight romance in the first place instead of seemingly baiting people into thinking it would be something more than that.
Nta but what did it do? I thought the first ad had them squeeling over the kpop dudes. Sure, they're the villians, but hero x villian is one of the most cliché tropes.

No. 2575165

>>2575073
Nona, go watch the film and come back to this discussion thread please. It’s only 90 minutes and it’s very obvious you’re trying to argue over something you haven’t even seen. Fyi it’s not “a romance” film it is a powerful female character story that happens to include some romance because she’s a straight woman. Who likes men. Like 90% of women.

No. 2575233

>>2575073
You have a big prejudice against straight romance being bad for female characters that you're taking for granted everyone else also assumes. Rumi's motivations aren't tied to a man, and even if they are that wouldn't make her a bad character.
Why is romance specifically unnecessary as opposed to any other trope? I know you said that you don't like romance at all, but that's my point. Literally just say that instead of hiding behind words like "unnecessary."

No. 2575237

>>2575005
In fiction, of course. You can find it in otome games and believe or not, shoujo romance. For instance, Jack Jeanne and Fruits Basket respectively.

No. 2575255

>>2574341
Even though i like yuri i have developed a massive hatred towards yurifags because it's impossible to find media where women are allowed to be friends without people making it sexual. Two female characters are incapable of liking eachother, hating eachother or just being close together without yuritroons making it about coom.

No. 2575282

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fandom brainrot(and yaoi) and it's consequences

No. 2575286

>>2575282
me finding women into "androgynous/feminine" men this one time and their idea was less astolfo/old school tempest and more kaeya genshit impact…felt so betrayed

No. 2575292

>>2575286
over the years I've come to realize that androgynous/feminine men simply don't exist and that the people who are obsessed with them are often women who are about to transition or moids who are pedophiles

No. 2575299

>>2575282
>re buto
retrasada and gendie rotted by social media
they're all so obnoxious they can't even pretend not being massively dick obsessed

No. 2575303

>>2575282
None of these men look like women. These kids spend too much time online and not enough time interacting with actual human beings, so they've forgotten what men and women look like. That's also why the troon ones are completely delusional about how well they pass or how attainable their "transition goals" are. It's a problem you see with terminally online people of both sexes. If yaoi "causes" this, it wouldn't explain why seemingly all terminally online zoomies behave this way, including males.

No. 2575304

>>2575282
At this point I'm convinced faceblind artists just think anyone with long hair is a woman

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>>2575292
>>2575303
of course attractive men exist, but male beauty is different from female beauty, and we see with troons that even so-called feminine men who transition look ugly and masculine when then try to pretend to be women, and very butch and masculine women who transition are seen as small and feminine when then try to pretend to be men.
picrel is a lesbian woman who posed as a man for over a year, despite being 5'10", wearing lifts and being a butch, she was constantly called "faggot" on the street, was seen as very feminine and most people assumed she was a gay man

No. 2575311

>>2575286
kek its funny how only moids like ''draw a girl call it a boy''. Meanwhile women's idea of an androgynous man is any men that cries and isnt roidpig buff.

No. 2575313

>>2574657
>I think it's because teenagers see being gay as a fandom and want to be understood and be special and unique and different from other people in a meaningful way.
Kek that's why I sometimes refer to trans ideology as "the gender fandom." A troon's new "gender identity" is basically like a fursona.

No. 2575314

>>2575023
I’m heterosexual and horny and aside from consuming art for its own sake, I like the escapism aspect when it comes to romance. I want to masturbate to 2d males who are not only hot, but are proven likable in a heterosexual dynamic. It’s really not that complicated.
I shouldn’t feel like I need to make a case for myself, it should just be normal. Het women are probably the largest demographic on earth so why are so many people incredulous? And yes I’m including other women (victims of internalized misogyny and coping with lgbt politics/pickmeism)

No. 2575317

>>2575073
Not the blackpill bippies in the fandom thread..

No. 2575323

>>2575073
>I don't know why you're crying so much over this one movie being criticized.
Not having yuri is not a criticism.

No. 2575325

>>2575314
you're making it complicated because you aren't in the minority here yet you're acting like one. most TV mostly features het couples, and most couples regardless of orientation are also shittily written, but one thing is true: there's far more examples of interesting het couples in media than other ones. books, tv, film, whatever. 2D? well, shoujo and josei primarily services you.

No. 2575331

Ngl I’m kinda surprised yurifags were that upset with the het romance in Kpop Demon Hunters considering how it ended and technically all the potential hetships got screwed kek, but at least there’s fancontent. I was expecting himejoshis being annoying but I thought it was gonna be jokes about how they won or something kek

No. 2575338

>>2575310
All i got from your picrel is that maleness is just ugly. That's why masculinity ideals are so ugly, it's like >>2575093 said, they just like ugly shit and whenever they see something beautiful they have to destroy it because that's all they know how to do and that's what they are. Even their ideal aesthetics for women are just ugly. They're either troonish like the makeup republican women wear, or inbred and unhealthy looking like the female faces you see on ai slop that are supposed resemble a barely pubescent girl. Now, i'm not calling teenage girls inbred, but teenagers are kind of ugly and doughy (sorry) and you shouldn't be attracted to someone that looks like they would die in childbirth or give you unhealthy offspring, so with scrote's grotesque sense of aesthetics you get these inbred ai slop "girls" that god knows what age they're supposed to be.

No. 2575392

>>2575338
nta but I disagree about the "unhealthy" part. regularly healthy women without make-up are seen as ill or unhealthy by plenty of people, men and women, because normal features like wrinkles, blemishes, scars, and other stuff is seen as a bigger deal when they're on women. AI slop is gaining traction because, like it or no, it looks healthier to the majority of people.

No. 2575450

>>2575325
Please don’t act like heterosexual woman have it good just for getting thrown some crumbs.
I do not count moid pandering hetshit when I talk about good representation. My main contention is misogyny, and how women (of all sexualities) are sidelined if not outright treated like crap.

What makes it especially irksome is that hetero women are the majority, yet decent representation is virtually nonexistent outside of some peanuts thrown here and there. This is being treated like a minority, this is just misogyny. I’m tired of the world being so moidcentric that being oppositional and disrespectful to women comes before everything. Het women aren’t spared from feeling isolated just because most moids are heterosexual too.

No. 2575463

>>2575450
>Please don’t act like heterosexual woman have it good just for getting thrown some crumbs.
Not like people looking for gay content have it any better, at all.

No. 2575531

>>2575282
I can see it with the guy after Bucky and the FMA protagonist but the rest…

No. 2575538

>>2575310
Did you mean to reply to me? Your post doesn't have much to do with what I said.

No. 2575541

File: 1750649936128.png (1.13 MB, 917x1200, yikes.png)

>>2575531
Gerard way does not look like a woman kek, I think you were just fooled because those images are for ants. Also Jfc, talk about an example of men aging like milk. Dude looks like if Josh Moon and the Geico Caveman had a buttbaby together.

No. 2575564

>>2575463
honestly I get bot or baiter vibes from the person because they say "crumbs" in regards to a factual statement that almost all quality romantic media is het.

No. 2575565

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>>2575541
Did he wear coloured contacts when he was in that terrible band? Or did his eyes change to brown bc he is so unhealthy now

No. 2575582

>>2575565
That looks like the same color in different lighting to me

No. 2575584

>>2575582
They're definitely brown in the center now, the same thing happened to ben affleck
>Changes in eye color, including eyes turning brown, can be normal, especially with aging or sun exposure, but sudden or significant changes can indicate an underlying health issue. Minor changes are common and often harmless, but it's best to consult an eye doctor for any sudden or drastic color changes

No. 2575588

>>2575541
He doesn't there, but he's pretty clearly like 20 years younger in the pics they posted in the thread.

No. 2575591

>>2575588
and he was still a fat ugly blockhead anon, he didnt look like a woman

No. 2575594

>>2575591
He could pass as a really homely british girl I think, to be fair in my original post though I only said "I can see it" not "I think they look like a full woman"

No. 2575597

>>2575594
Why do people do british women so dirty wtf did they do to you.

No. 2575598

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>>2575591
I used to say pete wentz looks like me in this picrel and I'm a woman. Idk if it is actually true tho

No. 2575601

>>2575597
Nothing, he's just wearing a uniform that I associate with limeys.

No. 2575613

>>2575601
The school uniform?

No. 2575615

>>2575613
Yeah in the third photo in the set.

No. 2575629

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they hated jesus because he told them the truth

No. 2575630

Tumblrina Zelda fans angry someone dislikes troon headcanons and tit chop scar art but then proceeded to defend the rights of incels and pickmes to write pedoshit. I am so sick of these people. You HAVE to like their tranny shit or you will be witch-hunted, but they’ll cape for lolicons

No. 2575633

>>2575630
“puritans! Muh purity culture! Just fiction! Let me talk about my fantasy of adult men fucking children in peace!

No. 2575634

>>2575282
None of these “look like women” at all. Mental retardation has truly taken hold

No. 2575637

>>2575629
Yeah this feels heavily outdated

No. 2575649

>>2575630
I keep saying this about these weird (proshipper?) fuckers in fandom kek. They shit up the fandom with genuine honest to god pedoshit but not wanting to see tranny porn is a step too far and suddenly affects reality, it's unbearable.

No. 2575652

>>2575649
I can’t keep sperging about it but their hypocrisy pisses me off so bad. I can’t believe I was ever on the side of “proshippers” in the past, because I have since seen with my own two eyes how they absolutely apply their disgusting little mindsets to real kids and women as well. It is practically a pedophile moid rights movement pretending it’s about le ~freedom of creativity~

No. 2575655

You anons are never getting the het representation you want because it's a problem beyond fandom. Heterosexuality is the default, and heterosexual sex is depicted as something a man takes away from a woman or something done to a woman. There is no female sexuality, women have no real power or are equal to men in the bedroom. It doesn't matter what a woman has achieved or created, a woman having sex with a man makes her devoid of any redeeming quality and even her humanity altogether. When a woman agrees to have sex with a man, because that means she agrees to be seen and used as meat, it's a funeral to her dignity, integrity, worth and fragile state as a human being and a celebration for the patriarchy. This is how you end up with rape fetishes so they don't have to bear responsability, trad leaning pickmes that are transparent about how sex is a service that they must provide, pickmes who are hypersexual to "gain control back", polilez and women who just give up and end up trooning out because being a woman is too exhausting. And i know you will say "but it's fiction it can be anything you want" and i agree, but very few people think like us even if they swear they don't, so we never get the media we want. I guess it begs the question, who controls the culture? The people behind the media or the people watching it?

No. 2575661

>>2575655
I have since made this realisation myself as to why het ships are always portrayed with this abusive sleazy cheating manwhore scum portrayal of the moid even if the character is a literal knight in shining armour in canon but it pisses me off no less. It just makes me think normies truly are npcs who can’t think outside of the misogynistic slop they were taught

No. 2575688

>>2575598
He just look like a 00s metrosexual faggot, nonna.

No. 2575692

>>2575661
What gets me is when there is good het romance without misogyny such as some otome or shoujo like another nona mentioned, and fans add misogyny back in their fanworks.

No. 2575706

>>2575655
If it's fiction and fandoms who gives a fuck how it is irl. Plenty of women write het couples for escapism because their fantasies are over the top or because they're disappointed in men irl while you're talking about how het relationships are irl as if everyone is going to write an autobiography.

No. 2575744

>>2575706
Not everyone writes an autobiography per se, but they do end up injecting their damage and libfem politics into the work, which makes it somewhat insufferable to read

No. 2575755

>>2575744
True, I turned very picky with what I read or watch for this reason but I'm sure there are a lot of women who don't write their stories and characters like this. We should encourage women to write idealized men in my opinion.

No. 2575769

>>2575655
What do you even want then? The only relationships being same sex? More femdom shit.

No. 2575778

>>2575692
We really can't have anything, huh?

No. 2575791

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I was scrolling through the tag of a fotm yaoi ship and came across this. Who is the target audience here? It is absolutely half-assed and lazy, she just put on a lingerie and called it a day. I seriously doubt moids are checking yaoi tags. Are women just pretending to like it? The tag is already filled with vomit inducing cuntboy shit, and giving attention to stuff like picrel makes the tag even more unbrowsable.

No. 2575798

>>2575769
More femdom would be peak. Moids should actually provide, protect and worship you or else what are they even good for

No. 2575834

>>2575798
Based nonna. Moids only exist to be slaves of their own women and I wish more het fiction would be like that.
>>2575791
Seeing that ship makes me happy I'm on off-trend yaoi ships. The gendie shit is still there unfortunately but the impact is lesser.

No. 2575862

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Kim there's people that are dying

No. 2575864

>>2575630
Context? I feel like this post should have a screencap in it

No. 2575869

>>2575594
>>2575598
I get that autism causes faceblindness but Jesus Christ.

No. 2575875

>>2575706
>If it's fiction and fandoms who gives a fuck how it is irl.
>you're talking about how het relationships are irl as if everyone is going to write an autobiography.
I literally mentioned this in my post if you actually bothered to read it. And quite frankly, they don't write an exact autobiography but you can tell what they think women and men as individuals and heterosexual dynamics are supposed to be like because that's the culture around them, otherwise you wouldn't have the same retardation stemming from ancient misogynistic ideas you see posted in this thread
>>2575769
>What do you even want then? The only relationships being same sex? More femdom shit.
What does this even have to do with my post? I tried to indentify the problems behind why women don't have "good" heterosexual representation, not that they should give up on it

No. 2575876

>>2575862
fag there's AI fetish slop being made of disabled women, who gives a fuck if you think this outdated meme is offensive.

No. 2575880

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No. 2575882

>>2575798
>>2575769
Sure but I don't think an increase in femdom would solve the fundamental problem >>2575655 described, where most cultures rob women of their sexual agency and re-frame sex as men "taking" a womans purity and owning a piece of her. This problem will persist so long as the concept of virginity exists and sexual encounters are characterized as "conquests" by men.

No. 2575886

>>2575880
Plant makes a very good point. Adults always memeing and implying that kids media isn't truly for kids is a way for them to justify occupying child media as an audience. Like how bronies will try to tell you that MLP is the one of the most mature and groundbreaking shows of all time to justify occupying the fanbase as grown men.

No. 2575888

>>2575769
Why is someone always getting mad over femdom unprompted? And what do you mean "more" it's niche and most of that content is written for moids anyway.

No. 2575891

>>2575880
It genuinely is for little girls. That doesn't mean others aren't allowed to watch it, but they're not the people the show is designed to appeal to, and should not expect that the writers cater to them. It's a cartoon meant to teach kids about conflict resolution and sell dollies.

No. 2575910

>>2575862
If they couldn't get people to care about the word "derpy" during the peak Tumblr discourse era (when it was last relevant) it's definitely not gonna work now kek

No. 2576027

>>2575834
Do you have any recommendations for yaoi ships that don't have a huge gendie crowd. Pretty much every other fandom I join is filled with troon bullshit. Almost feels as if lc is the last place with normal fujos.

No. 2576090

>>2576027
Can gendies stand SAO or Shield Hero?

No. 2576096

>>2575629
It's safe horny fanservice for women by a coomer troon that would feel uncomfortable making a pretty boy.

No. 2576099

>>2575629
It still exists, but they're trying way too hard.

No. 2576106

>>2576027
Nonna at this point you just have to make your own and keep it secret

No. 2576120

>>2576106
nta but literally. never had OCs with real stories until the past few years because fandoms suck now compared to like 2010

No. 2576125

>>2576106
Kinda reminds me of the creator of welcome home creating her own husbando and then trying to ban porn of her series when people drew porn of her husbando kek.

No. 2576161

>>2576027
I thought Ace Attorney fandom was pretty safe, but then even writers started transing the evil bigoted old prosecutor with a perfectionist boomer attitude. They saw him and went
>Clearly he must be trans because he's deeply oppressing himself just like me, a heckin valit boi

No. 2576183

>>2576027
why would you want to recommended ships for fandoms you're not in? why not just go read regular BL

No. 2576186

>>2576125
Ayrt she failed the impprtant part which is to keep him secret. Keep him so far under wraps and dont confide in anyone. Meditate by visualising individual body parts for days at a time. Eventually he will start to manifest in your periphery as a tulpa, dont just go posting him to whore him out to Aiden freaks

No. 2576197

>>2575880
There's a certain type of manchild/womanchild cartoon fan that clearly feels some shame about watching mostly toddler's cartoons or actually does want some somewhat deeper themes yet refuses to watch more stuff made for adults, so they try to trick other people into thinking their googoo gaga cartoons are actually super deep and hardcore because there's a tiny little bit of conflict in one episode.

No. 2576208

>>2576203
The bloodbending episode scared the living shit out of me when i was a kid, i wish they explored it more

No. 2576214

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>>2576197
>>2575880
A lot of it just comes from trying to steal something from it's target audience honestly, especially in the case of bronies.

No. 2576265

>>2576214
I think it can just be plain insecurity too though, especially since animation in general can have a dismissive reputation of only being for children, rather than a medium anyone could enjoy, so these kinds of fans over-correct by trying to hype up anything slightly mature or grim as making it not some great shame to be watching it while not also being under 13 years old. That insecurity is, of course, an expression of immaturity too (and buying into the aforementioned stereotype + that media for children can't also be thoughtful/sad/scary/intense/violent). Just enjoy stuff kek

I feel like you do see it a bit less (at least as a defensive argument, maybe not the 'omg this is a kids show???' hyperbole) now that things like anime are more mainstream, and I've noticed that it can also be dependent on cultural stuff or how sheltered someone is– some people have really low thresholds for what makes something for kids or not.

No. 2576331

>>2576214
>>2576265
"Animation is Cinema" fans always struck me as insecure autist who haven't outgrown their cartoon fixation so they make a mountain out of anthill to make themselves more adult. They never recommend actual artistic works either. It's always kid's shows or preschool slop not anything avant garde or truly adult as anything more mature and they might sperg about it. Face it, this is for kids or little girls, why are grown men even watching this when there's better media out there that caters to their sensibilities.

No. 2576371

>>2576027
These days most fandoms will unfortunately have trannies, unless the series tries REALLY hard to filter them, which is easier said than done. One way to (somewhat) accomplish this would be media with a huge language barrier, or media that just doesn't have a large western following in the first place. Of course, this obviously makes it harder to engage in fandom, as most of it ends up being non-english speaking.
I have a fujo ship that gets a lot of content and I don't have to worry about troon shit, but at the same time most of it is japanese and it's very niche on the western side of fandom, plus nonas here probably wouldn't be into it anyway. So they definitely exist, but I would honestly recommend just ignoring western fandoms of things you're into and sticking to asian artists for fan content.

No. 2576438

>>2575862
it actually started as a mocking exaggeration of sounds made by rob schneider

No. 2576442

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>>2576208
NTA and I don't know what you were replying to, but same. The first villain in TLOK used to scare me even more even though I also thought he was hot because he made bloodbending seem unstoppable.

No. 2576444

>>2576214
Not a single image of Koh the face stealer?? That fucker had exactly 1 scene and he haunted my dreams for weeks.

No. 2576462

>>2576444
Man, I remember as a kid making up a fanfic of an Airbender sequel and having that guy be the main antagonist. I wish they kept it more eastern spiritual instead of going the industrial route.

No. 2576469

>>2576462
That sounds very cool, actually. I wish they did something like this for real. I feel like that would have worked in TLOK season 2, just have the supervillain be a "regular" malicious spirit instead of rewriting the lore to introduce a Satan expy kek

No. 2576623

>>2576027
Try the BL thread in /m/

No. 2576640

>>2576438
Supposedly Baseketball is the first known use of the word, and then South Park used it, and then people referenced that on /b/. So I guess you'd have to ask Matt Stone and Trey Parker what the word is meant to mean kek.

No. 2576685

>>2575463
>>2575564
NTA but the point is, het romance and male looks are contaminated by misogyny. There's no desirable representation. Also lol at het romance being called "more interesting", isn't the current trend to say that gay stuff is cooler?

No. 2576691

>>2575661
>>2575692
sorry for the sperg but god damn I feel this so bad. i've read fanfic by japanese pickmes about my favorite otome husbando and I swear to god they make him practically rape the MC and do things without her consent when he would never do that. They are so fucked and the writers only accidentally managed to write a good man.

No. 2576942

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We regret to inform you that the dandadan retards are at it again

No. 2576950

>>2576942
How the fuck did a show about a boy losing his balls drawn by an author with a fat bastard fetish attract so many retards?

No. 2576961

>>2576942
>16 year old minor
unrelated but are zoomers retarded or is that part of a meme i am not aware of

No. 2576967

>>2576950
The classic anime fan of some shounenslop manga where the author is clearly a moid drawing his rape and pedo fantasies but his fans will defend it claiming that it’s actshully depicting how dark and serious this topic is. You can apply this to pretty much every manga or anime out there that tries to depict SA scenes. Retards will swear that the underage girl having her panties shown is totally necessary for the plot.

No. 2576973

>>2576161
KEKKKK I was about to mention AA but what they did to Miles Edgeworth (hot ass bottom btw) is unforgivable. Waste of a nice arse.

No. 2576974

>>2576942
It’s disgusting BECAUSE the author is using rape as fanservice. As the kids say: “hope this helps!”

No. 2576983

>>2576974
I genuinely cant think of any Japanese anime or manga that had a sexual assault scene that felt like it was meant to be disturbing/horror and not just jerkoff fuel. I imagine some VNs have done this but i dont read those and even if it exists, moids 100% jerk off to it anyways, its really better off just implied

No. 2577066

>>2576983
The only VN I can think of is Subarashiki Hibi

No. 2577075

>>2576942
"Getting groomed" It's sexual assault. It's a rape attempt. Calling it "grooming" is innacurate and undermining what's going on.

No. 2577086

>>2577075
Censorship of common words and general stupidity is the cause of this. You can't talk about certain crimes or events like rape or suicide or murder online without being suspended for a few days regardless of context so now kids growing up online use the wrong words to express specific things and cause crazy misunderstandings. It's not nearly as bad but I also noticed how idiots keep confusing satire, sarcasm, joke and meme.

No. 2577183

>>2576983
I think Utena does this very well by not focusing at all on the body/keeping it out of view while still making it clear that sexual assault is occurring. Moids will still jerk off to it, yes, but quite frankly there’s no way to narratively portray OR imply sexual assault without degenerate moids jerking off to it. I don’t think this means that we should just abandon talking about it in stories as a result.

No. 2577204

>>2576942
Good god reading the comments of that post is making me lose braincells. Rape in anime and manga is always fan service and only a retard would make excuses for it, you will never be able to depict this topic in the medium without moids seeing it as fap material otherwise why would the doujinshi market be filled with that shit?

No. 2577210

The state of the modern Warrior Cats fandom hurts me. I need the days of online female cat/wolf/dragon/etc autism without kweer shit back. Why is this nearly an hour long?

No. 2577236

>>2577210
Warriors has like nine ghosts writers and iirc one of them got kicked off the team for agreeing with JK Rowling. Also, becoming aware of how destructive stray cat colonies are on local ecosystems really takes the shine off of Warrior cats kek

No. 2577343

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>>2570721
I'm glad he's dead. He should've died sooner. Can't wait until more pedos like him and Toriyama die

No. 2577403

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This “THEY HAVE TWO HANDS!1!1” polyamory orgy obsession is so fucking obnoxious. I guess regular old monogamous gay couples are too “normal” for the kids these days. I hate seeing people turning everything into a harem and then call it le epic heckin queer rep and happy pride!!! And you’re “homophobic” if you dislike it. Just take me out because I am tired of seeing it

No. 2577419

>>2577204
It literally looks like ugly bastard rape hentai. That onsen cliffhanger scene as well. The defenders of this shit are braindamaged.

Also the joke that is people who gas up momo/okarun as “not like other toxic straight ships uwu” bitch he blushed on top of another girl

No. 2577421

>>2576983
The rape attempts in Fate stay night never feel like jerk off fuel, even in the movie version

No. 2577432

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>>2554309
>>2554341
Late reply, but here’s a chart to help visualize. The letters aren’t a specific size, they represent the difference in inches between the bust and underbust measurements. So for example, 34A and 28D have the exact same volume just with a different band size

No. 2577433

>>2577343
I'm also glad he could never complete his shitty misogynistic rape manga.
Retarded Miura can't interpret statistics. Japan is notorious for a culture that suppresses crimes against women. And the western countries aren't the ones famous for chikan (train molestation). Also is he implying that those western countries are worse for punishing CSAM possession? God

No. 2577447

>>2577236
>iirc one of them got kicked off the team for agreeing with JK Rowling
Yeah this did happen and I can't believe I forgot about this. I think the fear of backlash they'd get from the TIF fanbase played at least a decent role in the team's decision to get rid of whoever that was. They still haven't put any confirmed gay characters in the books to appease them, though, (supposedly because they don't want countries like Russia banning them, though a similar dragon book series called Wings of Fire has a canon lesbian couple and it's doing fine afaik) so it seems performative.
>Also, becoming aware of how destructive stray cat colonies are on local ecosystems really takes the shine off of Warrior cats kek
I mean, Warriors is known for not being afraid to kill off major characters via brutal methods (especially for a children's series). It's not presented as a happy or whimsical world for anyone so I can put that aside.

No. 2577449

>>2577403
You can never convince me that polyamory is okay, ever. It's disgusting and only benefits the man.

No. 2577451

>>2577343
I wish these dumb ass statistics would stop making people delusional. Japan has a high rate of sex crimes that are never reported. Also, imagine thinking it's totally okay to be a pedo in Japan just because you can draw little girls instead of SAing real ones. I guess little kid magazines arent a thing suddenly? it's all so sick

No. 2577462

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>>2577066
Subahibi is an interesting case. I feel like all the ero scenes are definitely jerkoff fuel for degenerate scrotes and a projection of Scaji's fetishes, and if it weren't then there wouldn't be HCGs of the particularly disturbing scenes to begin with. But on the other hand, even the most disgusting otaku moids I've seen have been grossed out by some of the hentai scenes. VNs like Maggot Baits or Euphoria rely on visual stimuli to feel disgust, Subahibi HCGs (namely the ones that weren't purely made with fap material in mind) rely on the psychological components. They are dependent on context to feel the exceptional discomfort the game is so good at evoking the feeling of.

No. 2577469

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>>2577447
Relevant

No. 2577471

>>2577403
This is the leftist equivalent of moids who threaten to bomb the studio if their favourite girl doesn't "win" the haremshit anime kek, most of the time it's barely disguised cope because their preferred ship isn't canon.

No. 2577476

>>2577403
There was that shitty harem anime where 100 girls fall in love with a guy and that was praised as "queer feminist polyamory rep".

No. 2577478

>>2577447
Warrior Cats is DEFINITELY not supposed to be a happy world kek. So many kittens die in that series it's insane.

No. 2577515

>>2576973
Not even Edgey-poo is spared WTF
>>2576983
This. Berserk fans will look at you straight in the eye and pretend the female characters being raped for pages and pages is deep and meaningful. But it's ok because the main character took it in the ass by force once.

No. 2577535

>>2577462
I genuinely think it's supposed to be both in subahibi, the scene where Zakuro gets raped is framed in a way where a really degen otaku could jack off to it but the vast majority of people will just feel absolutely disgusted.
I gotta give it props there in that the scenes with the teacher were so disgusting that I actually felt extreme shock (also helps that I like Subahibi and I don't like Clockup VNs)

No. 2577538

>>2577183
You're right about this. When i first watched Utena, my 15 year old brain didn't even comprehend it was SA until i rewatched it in my 20s.

No. 2577549

>>2577462
>>2577535
The scene that disturbed me the most with Zakuro wasn't the full on rape scene but the one where she's drugged out of her mind and those two girls try to goad a random scrote into raping her and he's clearly considering it and only bails out of self preservation because he can tell something weird is going on. Felt too real about what the average moid is really like.

No. 2577554

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>>2577549
Agreed, for a scrotege it's surprisingly realistic about what moids are actually like and the only one who's kind of sympathetic in game is Takuji who also gets raped by men.

No. 2577560

>>2577554
Takuji's rape scene was some of the most vile shit I've ever read, I think I got nauseous at some parts.
Another thing I found realistic is when the bully girls "comfort" Zakuro by saying the rape wasn't a big deal and the same happened to them. Showing how some traumatized women normalize their abuse and then cope by trying to inflict it on other women is more nuanced than I'd expect from a scrotege.

No. 2577564

>>2577560
A surprising amount of the first three chapters (not the prologue obviously) are like that, not so much for tsui no sora remake though (it does that trope where everyone is in love with the protagonist except for Yasuko because she's a lesbian)
>Showing how some traumatized women normalize their abuse and then cope by trying to inflict it on other women is more nuanced than I'd expect from a scrotege
I remember someone saying that had Megu not been raped and let out her internal anger on physical activity or something she probably could have been a decent person, not sure for Satoko though since she joined a gang and was shoving bats up other girls from a pretty young age based on the text.

No. 2577568

>>2577564
Wasn't Satoko getting abused at home or am I misremembering? And yeah I agree otherwise. I enjoyed it overall but it lost a lot of steam for me after Zakuro's chapter, I did not really care about Tomosane.

No. 2577575

>>2577568
I don't remember if they mention it with Satoko, they more just have her as the scary girl to act as bodyguard for Megu.
>I did not really care about Tomosane.
Only moege moids like Tomosane, his chapters don't have anything to offer kek.
Endsky 2 is kind of cool though (albeit very short) and the ED is one of the best I've ever heard.

No. 2577581

>>2577575
Godly taste nona that ED is amazing. And yeah I enjoyed Endsky 2 as well

No. 2578521

>>2574048
What's the issue with picrel? Hot and I don't see any tranny shit or feminization

No. 2578650

>"I want to build something iconic"
>there's a longer trailer with the line "will you eat?" (As in "she ate that up" tiktok slang)
Never thought Marvel could lower the bar further. What is this absolute cringe? The fanbase for this is going to white millennials clapping their Funko Pops together in the local barcade because the sassy woman said a slang-slang girl yas

No. 2578973

I will forever hate lolishota weirdos but incest and rapefic just feels like a nothing burger to me, though the latter ONLY if it's written by women. The vast majority of humans know incest is wrong and the "think of the children!" argument doesn't hold water when parents should be involved in regulating their childrens access to inappropriate content, and basically every woman ever has had bad sexual interactions so why the fuck would I police what she writes about it? If she wants to reclaim her sexual autonomy in that way, literally who am I to judge her?

Anyway, proship vs antiship drama is retarded to me for those reasons. I don't want to be labelled a proshipper because I hate pedophiles but antishippers would doxx me, so I'm in this weird state of limbo where I have to avoid pretty much everyone in fandom until they show they share similar viewpoints.

No. 2578977

>>2577554
>>2577560
Alright, you guys sold me on subahibi, I'll play it now. I remember back in 2018, I spent a lot of time on /vg/'s visual novel general and there was a ritualposter talking about how she's "used goods" and triggered the fuck out of me and made me feel like I was also used goods for not being a virgin at age 19-20. I fucking hate scrotes so much.

No. 2578983

>>2578973
I think rapefaggots can play with their rapefics all they want, I think think it's funny when they act surprised when people think they're creepy weirdos and pathetic when they try to hide behind "but it's to cope with my trauma!!".

No. 2578986

>>2578983
It CAN be a valid way to cope, though. A common fantasy of abuse survivors are things along the lines of standing up to their abusers, imagining if they actually had power and could fight back, imagining having a secret weapon to shock their abuser with to get away and feel satisfied, etc… it's no different with rape victims, and writing it is a good way to get it out of your system, similar to how journaling is good for that very reason.

No. 2578991

>>2578986
Doesn't that just fall under 'rumination', which therapy specifically tries to prevent the patient from doing too much? IMO the entire concept of catharsis seems to be on shaky ground.

No. 2578994

>>2578991
As I said, it's a good way to get it out of your system. Unresolved trauma leads to rumination, but how are you supposed to even resolve trauma? By talking about it over and over and over with a therapist who only looks at your pain through a clinical lens? But what about sharing it with people who may have similar feelings to you? Connecting to other people through your pain? Slowly realizing it wasn't your fault or that you can still be loved as you write it out and realize you want the characters you're projecting onto to have a happy ending, and subsequently, yourself as well? Even in rapefic that just seems like glorified torture porn with no catharsis, there's still the element of "look at me. look at the fact i'm hurting. it's nasty, isn't it? look me dead in the eyes, and don't ignore me" which can be cathartic in the sense that most people will want to ignore you're hurting. It can lead to a covert form of victim blaming where people blame the victim for having PTSD after the attack and daring to burden them with their emotions. But with the anonymity aspect of fanfic, that danger is gone.

No. 2578999

>>2578973
Aren't a lot of antis handmaidens too at least from all the others I knew? Which is funny considering the amount of weird fetishes troons have. But since there's no incest or lolis involved, it's okay and anyone pointing it out is a meanie terf kek.

No. 2579000

>>2578973
eh i can see why a normal woman might like shota, but moids have no excuse. Unlike bishies waifus can be cute or shorter than the protagonist. There is no reason for a moid to pick a loli over a short waifu.

No. 2579011

>>2578973
I just find it weird when they use a non-rapey character to be rapist of their rapefic.

No. 2579063

>>2578999
>But since there's no incest
There's a lot of troons being openly into incest for some reason

No. 2579078

>>2579000
You can have short guys that aren't shotas too. Even if they're just dwarves or something, it's fiction.

No. 2579080

>>2578983
i also hate the trauma defense, as if you need to be a victim of rape for it to be acceptable for you to write about. just own the fact that you think its hot.

No. 2579081

>>2579078
People would call them shotas too be for real. It happened with chichuck from dungeon meshi.

No. 2579086

>>2579080
I agree with this a lot. If rapefags keep hiding behind the "molested by a babysitter" excuse, it's going to make normies think that it's normal for rape victims to sexualize what happened to themselves. Almost like how pedophiles who got molested kept using that as an excuse, and managed to convince normies for a while that people become pedophiles FROM being molested.

No. 2579089

>>2579081
People say adult women with small breasts are like little kids or lolis too, there's still a different even if some people are retarded about it.

No. 2579090

>>2578973
I agree with you nona, especially if a it's a yaoi fanfic. The only problem is that moids use said fanfics to justify their evilness

No. 2579093

>>2579089
There really isnt. Shota/loli isnt about canonical age, it's about their design. Nico yazawa is a loli despite being in high school, Nezuko's in her coomer transformation isnt a loli despite Nezuko's age. I dont know why modern weebs dont understand that.

No. 2579099

>>2579093
Yeah and you can make an adult male body that's just shorter than the average woman, it's that crazy. Anime girls are lolis because they have child designs not because they are just short and not curvy

No. 2579107

>>2579099
Do you have examples of what you mean? Because the anime style is so stylized that literally the only thing in between a shota and a bishie is height.

No. 2579109

>>2579080
>just own the fact that you think its hot
I don't know why they don't do this. It's one the most basic fetishes ever.

No. 2579114

>>2579107
Look at an existing bishie character, any one you like. Imagine him standing next to female characters who are all taller than him. Is he now a shota?

No. 2579124

>>2579093
Lolicon is still designed after little girls, Nico is 5'0 tall and in her cards and in some anime scenes you can see that she has a body similar to the other LL girls. They are kinda same faced with huge eyes and she's flat, but she still looks just like any generic anime girl

No. 2579162

>>2579063
Probably because most troons were only children but that didn't stop the ones with siblings to be freaks about it.

No. 2579166

>>2579114
The female characters would have to be giants and look uncanny kek its why it doesnt work and why you have no real examples

No. 2579176

>>2574123
Using their child rape phrase does not make them mad

No. 2579181

>>2579124
She's still a loli and why she's drawn to be purposefully younger looking than the other girls. Loli as an archetype in anime has many different layers. If the anime is aimed at scrotes and the anime girl is drawn to look shorter and more childlike than the other characters, then its a loli.

No. 2579187

>>2579166
Not all bishies are giants? I don't see why they'd look uncanny. It's really simple. Adult male proportions, not child sized head, not baby face, looks like an adult regardless of height

No. 2579194

>>2579187
You dont understand how proportions work then. Head size indicates body size. A bishie normally has 7 to 8 head size. Making a female character 9 head talls would make her mounstrous next to him. Which is why you have no example of anyone aplicating your theory lol. The only way to make it work is to make the woman a monster, like how kaneoya sachiko does. But some people dont want to yiff in hell.

No. 2579200

>>2579194
Have you never seen an anime woman taller than an anime man I'm confused, it is definitely not that drastic. Maybe you're defining bishie very narrowly but you can definitely have an adult looking man who is shorter than an adult looking woman in anime and nobody looks like a monster, just like in real life?

No. 2579206

>>2579200
Then why dont you post examples? If its so common. We are also not talking about real life we are talking about anime. I am talking as an artist explaining to you how proportions in art work, which you clearly dont understand.

No. 2579213

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>>2579206
NTA but here's one.

No. 2579215

>>2579213
Can't you post a full body shot at least. This just kinda looks like she could be standing on top of a box.

No. 2579217

>>2579213
And that looks horrible kek he looks uncanny as fuck and she looks like a giant which is what i was talking about.

No. 2579219

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>>2579206
I never said it was common. As a love interest I think shorter guys are uncommon because most women prefer them taller, and I don't have a mental catalog of every time I've seen a tall woman next to a shorter man in my head I can reference on the spot for you.
Here's some random shitty image I pulled off googling anime tall women next to short men. I don't know about you but that doesn't look like a shota body to me, and the woman does not look like a monster.

No. 2579224

>>2579217
Nona I think you just don't like short men or how they look next to women kek it looks just as "weird" irl.

No. 2579226

>>2579219
I thought she had self-harm scars on her leg at first

No. 2579227

>>2579224
No one is talking about 3dpd.
>>2579219
Still looks weird to me, he looks stretched. I think the best example of it would be love complex or haru x kiyo.

No. 2579229

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>>2579215

>>2579217
How? He looks like a basic anime guy.

No. 2579231

>>2579227
I think you just prefer shotas over what short adult men actually look like and are making justifications about it.

No. 2579233

>>2579231
Is lovely complex and kiyo x haru shota now?

No. 2579236

>>2579233
Were you not the one arguing that short male anime characters are automatically shotas due to their design regardless of the canon age?

No. 2579245

Cloaca

No. 2579248

>>2579236
Thats what i wanted to know. Because anon keeps sperging about 3dpd manlets instead of focusing on the stylization. In the case of lovely complex, haru x kiyo and the moidslop anon posted the guys are paired with unnaturally tall girls. There is no way to make a male character of the size of nico yazawa look not like a shota next to a normal sized female character. Thats why the female characters are so huge and look like worms.

No. 2579251

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>>2579227
>haru x kiyo
I looked it up and kek, why is his head so small. Kinda makes me think of a tim and a tif with the head sizes. Also in this pic he almost looks like a deformed wide shota.

No. 2579254

>>2579251
Oh so you are one of those that thinks any cute male character = shota. Thats what i wanted to know.

No. 2579255

>>2575630
It's really ironic, because the core principle of being a proshipper is that everyone should be able to draw what they want as long as long as no real people are involved nor bear close resemblance to actual children or animals. I've noticed this hypocrisy myself, it especially bothers me that women like this only speak up about how women should be able to write or draw whatever they want when it comes to misogynistic maledom slop. I've never seen femdom, ryona, yaoi, etc. get that type of defense.
>>2575652
As a "proshipper" my belief that anyone should be able to draw and write whatever they want extends to women only, especially since purity culture primarily affects women. It's how we end up with people calling bishies pedophilia, Gaydens harping on fujos for muh fetishization, male sexualization being targeted, and so forth.

No. 2579257

>>2579254
Do you think all anons are the same anon? Also sorry that you can't come to terms with the fact that Chilchuck is a shota.

No. 2579260

>>2579248
I don't care about 3DPD but stylization literally means stylized away from real life, that's the basis. If it doesn't look more unnatural in anime than it does in real life for a tall woman and short man to be next to each other, the problem isn't that it's impossible or unnatural but just that you don't like the way it looks.

No. 2579263

>>2578973
Your argument falls flat when you get angry over women liking shota and unironically believing the handmaiden kool aid that women liking shota is the same as men liking loli and it makes them pedophiles

No. 2579264

>>2579257
I never said he wasnt because i understand there is no way to make a short male character not look like a shota unless he's drawn next to a gigantic woman. It's just tiring that moids can jack off to short girls but women cant say they like short guys without being put on the same box as moids who want to fuck their little sisters.

No. 2579266

>>2579251
Nta but they just look like normal anime characters to me.

No. 2579276

>>2579260
Its not that i dont like the way it looks, i love lovely complex and kiyoxharu, its just that none of those men are truly short, they just look short because they are paired next to gigantic girls. Men can fantasize about 150cm womanlets all they want but if i do that i get put in the same box as moids who want to rape little girls. It's also annoying when you talk about anime characters and people start sperging about 3DPD. Not everyone is into disgusting fleshies that masturbate to rape on tape and go bald but to pickme normies that's a ludicrous thought.

No. 2579279

>>2579255
>I've never seen femdom, ryona, yaoi, etc. get that type of defense.
It's because they can't handle seeing their blorbos getting "harmed".

No. 2579284

>>2579264
A short male character who isn't a shota doesn't look like a shota if next to a normal height woman, he just looks like an average guy instead of a short guy. I guess your issue is just that men can't be significantly shorter than the average woman's height without going into actual child heights, and you think tall women look like freakish worms and don't want to see them.
If that's how you're defining it then yeah you're right it's not possible to make a man who is sub 5'0 without looking like a child or a weird looking midget who doesn't conform to the typical proportions of a handsome man, because that literally doesn't exist at all, it's not an actual physical possibility. inb4 you sperg about 3DPD again but yes this not being proportionally possible irl also means you can't draw it and have it look natural in art either.
Why not just own that you like shotas?

No. 2579326

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>>2579264
nona, beyond him being short, he's a halfling. halfling's in dunmeshi are stated to look like children https://delicious-in-dungeon.fandom.com/wiki/Half-foots. half of the jokes that center chil are basically "WTF why is this toddler smoking and drinking?!" he is 100% a shota and it has nothing to do with outside perceptions, it's canon.

No. 2579412

>>2578986
>it's good for rape victims to fetishise their own abuse through fanfics
Hard disagree, nonna. The "it's my twauma" cope is the exact kinda shit kinkfags say when criticised for larping as a toddler for their "Daddy". If you're incest-chan from a few weeks ago butt hurt that someone got you to sperg out so hard that you accidentally called yourself a pedophile please stop kek

No. 2579444

>>2579412
I’m nta and don’t have strong feelings about this either way but I think writing a fic is a lot different than acting something out with another person.

No. 2579509

>>2579080
I agree and it's evident that there are many women who write rapefic without having been abused themselves (beyond the basic sexual harassment that nearly all women have to deal with). I also think there's something else to it than it just being "hot." Obviously that's one of the reasons why, but there is definitely a big emotional payoff involved in writing and reading these fics that's not just about porn. Why do so many women like to read about m/m rape specifically? I think that for some women writing that shit is a kind of a cathartic exercise designed to process the feelings caused by having to grow up constantly surrounded by rape ape moids.

No. 2579527

>>2579509
M/M (or even F on M noncon in the few instances when it isn’t Moidy) is enjoyable to me just because it’s fun to see a cute guy in a state of distress. I really do enjoy the tension and angst that comes from these sorts of scenarios but I hate the idea of seeing a woman go through it. I can only tolerate M on F noncon if it’s a harlequin romance type situation where it’s romantically idealized and clear the woman is into it, but when a man is the victim I can enjoy the darker aspects.

No. 2579655

Ive seen fanfic authors get so bitter about AI chatbots, granted some of them did take their prompt directly without asking the author first. Should we continue using those chatbots?

No. 2579685

>>2579326
Reminds me of Babydoll from Batman. You can respect that the character's an adult, but they literally look like a child in-universe

No. 2579743

>>2579655
>should we continue using these chatbots?
Who is this we? I fucking hate this zoomer way of talking like you are unable to have opinions of your own.

No. 2579775

>>2579655
>we
Oh anon

No. 2579813

>>2579655
>Should we continue using those chatbots?
Nobody can stop me.

No. 2579881

>>2579655
Tbh nonna the good fanfic writers are doing absolutely fine. Character AI (and similar) generate slop because it's fed slop. I respect everyone who writes but Wattpaddies getting butthurt their copy and paste self inserts are being eaten by a slopmachine isn't actually doing that much damage

No. 2580173

>>2553743
Convinced that the only reason people read webtoon is because everything else is parental locked

No. 2580342

>>2579114
>>2579194
I think that really would qualify as shota to a lot of people, being a short anime man has to be rough.

>>2579257
Poor Chilchuck.

No. 2580353

>>2579881
Kek, I wonder how the fanfic writers feel about this.

No. 2580356

>>2580353
Reading fanfic and interacting with a chatbot seem like completely different activities that don't necessarily overlap to me.

No. 2580362

>>2580356
Can you explain how any "x reader" fanfic is so different than "e-fucking" a bot?

No. 2580369

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>>2578650
Maybe in the next trailer, she'll say, "crash out," or "go off I guess," or whatever else it is middle schoolers say these days

No. 2580373

>>2577469
I don't buy for one second that Ravenpaw and Barley were "intended" to be a couple, but I'm okay with them being interpreted that way. It doesn't affect the story in any way.

No. 2580374

>>2580362
I don't read X Reader stuff because it's cringe and no one ever writes the self-insert character the way I would actually react so I can't maintain my suspension of disbelief. But an X Reader fic means the reader doesn't actually need to do any work beyond the reading while chatbot roleplay is more collaborative and requires more work from the reader/roleplayer.

No. 2580377

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>>2577403
My response this this kek, especially when polyshit is proposed as the "solution" to a love triangle

No. 2580388

>>2580374
So chatbots are actually better than self-insert fics if you think about it. At least the bot will train your brain.

No. 2580394

>>2580388
They're way better just since you have more freedom over the situation.

No. 2580395

>>2580388
I never got the appeal of x reader personally

No. 2580410

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>>2580374
>>2580395
Yeah not to be an NLOG or whatever, if you relate to the average xreader MC more power to you, but no reader character will ever act as insufferable as I do kek. Like your typical shy girl next door xreader character is not going to sperg out about a podcast she recently listened to about crime in the Chinese squid-fishing industry.

No. 2580415

>>2580394
I have a burgeoning fixation with writing collaborative self insert chatbot erotica. I can get as weird as I want with no spectators…

No. 2580425

>>2580410
I'm not sure if it's so much that they relate to it rather than they want to self-insert as an "ideal girl"

No. 2580918

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>>2580425
Well their idea of an "ideal girl" is very different from mine kek

No. 2580956

>>2580353
I write for fun so I don't care about chatbots. I personally find all AI-generated text boring and soulless, but I mainly engage in fandom for the conversations I get to have with other writers. I've written a couple xreaders but I never read them myself because most of them are cringe and badly written.

No. 2580963

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I am loving how Death Stranding 2 is pissing off people by daring to have some actual feminist messaging. I was shocked this actually came from kojima of all people. One of the messages literally appears to be "men should protect women and children, not victimize and oppress them" but woke gendies got mad because a game with the themes of life and death and species extinction has, oh no! procreation and babies and female biology, you know, the basic biological facts of the matter, as a theme.

For characters like Rainy it was their choice, and they were artificially inseminated, and characters talk about it being wrong to be forced into it or enslaved. It is actually quite nuanced about motherhood and women if people took off their staunch tumblr anti-natalist goggles for two seconds.

They made a game that both triggers male anti-woke bro gamers who think female character = fanservice and were expecting metal gear tier fanservice from the game for some retarded reason. Also christian men mad about the women and children only society that protects themselves from men, especially the exact kind of men they are (and probably also the fact they were artificially inseminated, because it goes against their religion that demands women only sleep with moids to have children kek)

The only questionable moments I noticed are when the guitar douchebag moid constrains tomorrow in a questionable manner, but A) That is in-character for that moid and B) He is immediately flipped off by fragile for it. People talk about the barefoot thing but most normal people don't see feet and instantly think of sex. It isn't exactly portrayed as titillating anyway. The clothes look like actual clothes people wear. Nintendo games for children sexualize the female characters more than this game does. So basically moids are mad this isn't porn and has an actual message, and gendie libfems are mad this game acknowledges biological sex and how women are oppressed due to their sex and where babies come from so they have to pretend it is just feet porn. Or they're mad about the concept that women need to be protected, which is just true unless you live in a delusional fantasy world.

If anything that ending makes me sad because of how moids will never actually protect women and children that way. Moids are only protectors like they should be in fiction.

No. 2580985

>>2580377
I hate both kek. Cuckery is cuckery

No. 2581034

>>2580963
Maybe we should breed this back into men. Let's teach boys how to be productive members of society and if they don't? Kick them out and let them fend for themselves. The fact women were forced to fuck low value moids is why we're here in the first place.

No. 2581178

>>2579655
well written fanfics aren’t going anywhere, ai slop can’t replicate that. chat bots are ooc and way too nice, at least for my taste.

No. 2581250

>>2580963
A step up from MGS for sure, but Kojima is still a benevolent sexist scrote and this isn't the epic ween you think it is.
>Or they're mad about the concept that women need to be protected, which is just true unless you live in a delusional fantasy world.
From who, exactly? Other scrotes. You sound like a tradthot parroting the "w-women need to be protected by males!" shit when the issue has ALWAYS been scrotes. I haven't played DS though but it makes sense any rational feminist would be mad over it.
Honestly, Kojima shouldn't write women at all. He should stick to writing about men getting molested by rapestacies and doing cartwheels naked.

No. 2581268

>>2580963
Kek I can't wait for scrotes to have bippie-esque meltdowns over Kojima

No. 2581322

>>2581250
Because female biology bad? And no shit men are needed to kill other men. Women protect each other differently but they sure as fuck can't dispatch the problem directly. Sometimes I wonder what the true goal feminism even is when radfems also partake in the denial have female autonomy and anatomy. Sorry that nature made us way kek.

No. 2581360

>>2581322
>Because female biology bad?
Unironically, yes. There are other ways to exercise power that don’t involve being protected by moids. Honestly, why are you even praising Scrotejima for his misogynistic messaging? Him showing his sexism in different ways is nothing new. You sound like one of those “radfems” who highlight being able to give birth as the absolute best part of being a woman

No. 2581367

>>2581360
It's as neutral as life and death. It's not the best thing that women have but most have it. Like, I don't want to derail this thread but what do you even want? If talking about female biology is too much then we might as well make the human race unisex and reproduce through budding. But oh wait, we fucking can't. I don't like kojima a whole lot but I don't care since he makes the moids seethe with how utterly useless they are.

No. 2581399

>>2580377
I kinda liked the "no one wins" ending that they did for a love triangle in one of the Catherine endings, stuff like "they all fuck" or "the love rivals date each other instead" just feel lazy and like they're ignoring the actual chemistry between characters for the sake of it being gay.

No. 2581441

>>2580956
What xreader fics did you write for? Now I'm curious.

No. 2581443

>>2580956
Same. I got semi-popular writing niche xreader fics a few years back but I hate reading them.

No. 2581498

>>2581399
>stuff like "they all fuck" or "the love rivals date each other instead" just feel lazy
To me it's not just lazy, it's pure cowardice. It's the option for writers who can't write actual conflicts or more negative outcomes for their characters. Fullbody added a love interest that seems too good to be true, too perfect compared to Catherine and Katherine until you find out he's a guy and Vincent feels conflicted at first when he learns about it, I like that new character but it did somewhat ruin the balance from the original game.

No. 2581509

>>2581498
>it's pure cowardice. It's the option for writers who can't write actual conflicts or more negative outcomes for their characters
Agreed, it can work in comedic scenarios but if it's a love triangle that's actually meant to be taken seriously on some level it just feels really lazy.
>I like that new character but it did somewhat ruin the balance from the original game.
Yeah Atlus games have that issue where the add on characters always feel like they're add ons and you can tell that they weren't originally planned, adding a sudden "is it okay to be in love with a man who looks and acts exactly like a woman???" plot into a game about a guy cheating on two extremely different women feels kinda out of nowhere.
I do notice usually when they add a guy to the love triangle (or general harem) he's either the most perfect or the most toxic option kek.

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>>2581509
>I do notice usually when they add a guy to the love triangle (or general harem) he's either the most perfect or the most toxic option kek
Moids yearn for the hurt/comfort embrace of the Wattpadian husbando.

No. 2581520

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>>2581515
Only if they're traps (gay guys don't fuck with bisexuals), the usual "guy in the harem" is for fujos.

No. 2581569

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>>2580353
Ayrt They're writing off character one shot self inserts about Gojo putting a collar on you so you remember he's your daddy while he's at his CEO job. I would strongly argue in the case of some autistic angel who has spent years crafting good fanfics, but that's not what the chatbots are taking. If they were then C.ai wouldn't be saying shit like "he touched you possessively with his primitive jealousy arms" and insisting that you look like a little girl. Fanfic writers by vast majority can suck my headcanon one shot peenor I authored for this post possessively with my dominant throat bob

No. 2581579

>>2580963
Wow, wtf, this is actually incredibly based?? Finally a game that gets it?? Let the moids and libfems mald about it, I might actually play this despite not giving a damn about the first one kek.

No. 2581584

>>2580963
Fragile is such a good character. Death stranding was honestly a good, emotional game. I dont know why so many people brushed it off, but i'm excited to play DS2. She's right too, women and children are always the first to suffer, in all men's wars and battles.

No. 2581732

>>2581367
If you don't find the psychological and physical distress induced from carrying a moid's seed for 9 months to be saddening and just neutral then that says a lot honestly. From all I've seen, DS is just pro breeding propaganda that promotes women to reproduce with mediocre scrotes, no matter how much you guys try to cope that it's something more.

No. 2581985

>>2581732
Life is as fucked as is kek. Are you suggesting we just drive the human race to extinction? Seems oddly sexist and homophobic as future lesbians and bi women women befret of a sister after the human race almost gone. We shouldn't breed like rabbits of course, but treating pregnancy like a curse is how we got women trooning out and castrating themselves with testosterone.

No. 2582260

>>2581441
kek, Batman universe. They were my gateway into writing experimental fiction, I was basically interested in playing with 2nd person POV and the fact that you need to leave the self-insert character pretty vague while still trying to give her some interesting personality traits. I've since moved on to writing other things, but I might revisit the xreader genre sometime, because writing it was really fun.

No. 2582922

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>>2571562
>>2570424
I'm this poster >>2570339 and I've come back just to ask this. Am I the only FNAFag who doesn't give a flying fuck about Security Breach, Secrets of The Mimic, or the Dead by Daylight mashup? I don't even give a shit about the books because they weren't even supposed to be canon to the games in the first place. I like FNAF and I only care about the games and the lore from FNAF 1 to Pizzeria Simulator, and even then I ignore Henry and Charlie as characters because I think they're stupid. I'm watching DBDfags lose their minds over Springtrap being in the game but I don't give a fuck about that. I don't give a fuck about Dead by Daylight.

No. 2582991

>>2582922
Not any of the anons you were replying to, but I only give a shit about the new games because I have a retarded obsession with the Sun/Moon guy since that first trailer with him crawling around the kitchen.

Anyways, what parts of the FNAF fandom do you engage with? How do you keep things fresh when the franchise has moved on from that chapter of the story? Sorry if this sounds like an interrogation kek. I'm missing the old gang myself.

No. 2582992

>>2582922
I thought this was Dio hanging with the Scooby Doo robot rabbit and now I'm sad.

No. 2583032

>>2578521
Exactly, people see a male anime character that dresses revealingly and with nice angles and assume he's for faggots. Picrel had people saying he should get boypreggers

No. 2583037

>>2580963
thanks for the rec

No. 2583041

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>>2582991
>what parts of the FNAF fandom do you engage with?
I mainly engage with the theorizing aspects of FNAF. Because Scott is a lore-baiter who wrote this damn franchise to still be so vague with what exactly is going on, a lot of details can be left up for individual interpretation. I like to look at details in the games themselves, as well as look at details other fnafags picked up so that I can form ideas about things like remnant, how possession works, and even wtf was in that locked box in FNAF4. The box thing, I'm still thinking about. I also love to look at and compliment FNAFanart from artists on different platforms. I hate PinkyPills' take on what the Afton family looks like, so I completely ignore any art that replicates the way she designed William (a Tim Burton Peter Griffin). I hate it when people act like their headcanons are THE canon (I hate GameTheory's overconfidence for this reason), but I do like it when fans create their interpretations of the lore and how the characters are BASED on what we see from the games. I keep PJ Heywood's improvised idea that William and the Aftons are English, but I also do like the concept of William being American and talking in a sophisticated yet mostly monotone voice. Some memes, I do think is funny like when fans make fun of William rising up from the dead for the 1938473596858th time so that the next game can have him as the antagonist.
>How do you keep things fresh when the franchise has moved on from that chapter of the story?
Again, playing the games, coming up with my own theories and sniffing around for details and "based" takes that other fans come up with. When slacking off at work, I like to draw different versions of William and Michael on a little notepad that I stash in my pocket. I absolutely don't like the amount of gendies that flocked to this fanbase, that shit is annoying. I like asking myself hypothetical questions about the characters, like what brand of cigars would William most likely smoke? What music would Michael listen to? What was William's relationship like with his wife?
>Sorry if this sounds like an interrogation kek. I'm missing the old gang myself.
It's cool. It makes me take a little breath when I remember that this game is about to be over ten years old now. Ten years, can you believe it? Every child who liked this game when it first came out is an adult now. Qualified oldfags of the game.

No. 2583044

>>2583032
Tbf picrel was a Jojo character so you would be 100% justified in thinking he was a fag

No. 2583046

Discourse over which characters count as loli/shota is stupid as hell, because in the end it's up to your own perception. However I think a work that establishes a character as a child and proceeds to sexualize them can't be defended

No. 2583047

>>2583044
That's another issue. Dressing in revealing outfits and being flamboyant = gay, which shouldn't be the case. In fact men should be flashy, like peacocks are. None of them are even confirmed gay

No. 2583058

>>2583041
To add, all those long texts of theorizing in the FNAF thread in /m/ were all me.

No. 2583098

>>2583041
>Ten years, can you believe it? Every child who liked this game when it first came out is an adult now.
TA and yeah, I was one of 'em kek. I remember my old wallpaper was a slideshow of the FNAF 1 animatronics that I would fall asleep to. Unfortunately, I wasn't around during FNAF 4 and SL so I missed a lot of the Afton family stuff. It's fun though because when I came back, I got to experience it as if was brand new. Thanks for sharing with me, nona.

No. 2583106

>>2578973
I agree, honestly. It's not even like coomer fanart, where moids will go out of their way to show everyone their gross fetish. Most of the time you can completely ignore fanfics you don't like just by using the tagging system. I don't think the authors necessarily have a right to complain about being judged (and if they're not smart enough to use an alt, that's on them) but overall it's not a big deal.

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>>2580963
I know Kojima is a coomer but he is a thousand times better than the average Japanese man when it comes to women. The Boss is one of my favorite female characters in fiction.



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