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>>>/ot/2532214 No. 2550083
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>>2550066blogposting but as a black woman, representation is nice but at the end of the day it never mattered too much to me. (For ex. I related more to Princess Daisy as a young tomboy than I did any black character on TV.)
That being said, i've never been the kind of person that HAS to see someone that shares the same physical traits as me to know I can do something. But I think that's rare in human beings to not need that kind of external validation.
Most people are visual creatures like that and need to see it, which is why we have this whole dumb topic that's been lasting for years.
No. 2550095
>>2550083I feel you,
nonnie. I'd rather see different kinds of women than the forced diversity we've been getting in the last decade. A tomboy princess would be more awesome. Also, I love princess Daisy's colors. It's interesting because I've grown up in the cosplay scene for the last 20 years now and black women cosplaying has never been an issue, but recently more people are focused hard on it. I just want better written women characters in general.
No. 2550107
>>2550095fr its so weird. I cosplayed as L and another black friend of mines cosplayed as Envy from FMA back then and no one gave a shit that we were
POC or w/e, we all just cared about the source material. I never had that insecurity that I couldn't cosplay as my fave character because we didn't share the same race/gender like I see now in the cosplay community.
This weird hyperfocus on race etc. has actually divided us a lot more imo than unite us.
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thoughts?
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>>2550095>>2550095as a kid I felt more represented/connected to characters that shared my personality traits rather than just looks. probably because I was already surrounded by people who looked like me. relatability is important for kids but it’s not exclusive to just race
>>2550353>>2550181it’s not AI. it’s just the type of generic art that gets fed into AI
No. 2550393
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Yes, it's a troon.
No. 2550458
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what the fuck is he talking about?
No. 2550551
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>>2550066I think representation may be nice for small kids, but honestly, I never cared for that. I usually enjoyed way more the dyanmic of trying to become like the character rather than the character having to be like me.
No. 2550590
>>2550458Funny Cdpr is being considered a woke company only now when they went out of their way to remove a lot of shit from the witcher books, like kek. Geralt wants
adult women. Woke shit probably also includes Geralt not wanting to bang someone he considers his daughter. Witchers are meant to be fucking ugly, if anything Ciri is a witcher supermodel even on a bad day.
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>>2550066Personally, when
I want representation, I just write my own fanfics.
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>>2550651Responding to say this. I view race bending for "representation" the same as when dumb "fans" horribly mischaracterize because "it's my headcanon". If you truly love a character, you wouldn't change them in a way that disrupts the fundamentals of what and "who" that character is meant to be, even down to the design essentials of what makes that character physically themselves. If you "need" to redraw a character as a different race than what they are, or if you "need" to rewrite them in a way that's objectively stupid compared to what the source material is actually telling you just so you can "digest" and like the character, you're not a real fan. You're just in the fandom to fuck around. It is for that train of logic that I also personally believe that 99% of coomer artists are not real fans of the movies, shows, books, comics, and games they make porn of. When 90+% of them cannot even get the physique of the character accurate to what they're meant to appear as, I'm going to have a difficult time believing that they truly have respect for the media itself.
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>>2550003>(…) children or troons arguing on Xitterthat's all this general is kek that might as well be the only box (and yet I keep coming back)
it also hurts seeing danganronpa and homestuck in the same box, even if i get why
>>2550153>>2550418I have zero sympathy at this point, twittards are so used to being feared and coddled they thought everyone else would keep their heads down and do as they say forever
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Can we include parasocial celebs in the fandomsperg thread? I think Jelena shippers are a good example but Royalfans are literally group psychosis. It's been a decade and they're still saying Meghan seduced their precious Harry. The current tinfoil is Meghan faking all her pregnancies kek
No. 2552013
>>2551962This reply seems ai generated hmm
>>2552010These cretins have nothing to dianafags
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No. 2552599
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What's with this phenomenon where women will defend character designs in smut by comparing them to real women's bodies?
No. 2552816
>>2552802>There are far more pertinent women's issues in the world than a literal fictional character's tit size.True! So why are you getting offended on behalf of fictional characters who are designed for coomers? Because that's what the discussion is about kek. Are you one of those people who thinks Sonico is supposed to be empowering fat representation?
>Inb4 reeeeee chestletJokes on you, my bewbs are average so I have the right to call both sides of this spergy argument retarded
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my default position on posts like this is that, until proven otherwise, they are made by autistic virgins who have literally never touched anyone of the opposite or same sex. The only thing they have that resembles sexual experiences is online rp with other autistic virgins.
No. 2552929
>>2552802The world doesn’t run on anime logic, go outside and talk to people for once
>>2552907I have small boobs and the only time I’ve ever been body shamed for it is by fat women or MTF troons. Ironically enough, I’ve never seen a skinny or even just average weight woman with big boobs project onto oversexualized big tit women, it’s always fatties. One of my personal cows is an obese weeb who draws herself as skinny with big boobs and claims anyone who doesn’t like those hypersexualized women is totally jealous
No. 2553261
>>2552802>>2552929>>2552813>>2552907I have large breasts and still think those are retarded and that moids who like coomslop should be culled, but I don't like the nonas calling everyone who has big boobs fat
You guys exaggerate. The obvious solution is to ban moids from drawing
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i just can't handle modern fandom anymore. even nerdy hobby spaces online feel nearly unbearable…i just can't believe it. fandom is full of gender humor and spicy straights now, witch hunting, the dumbest discourse over the stupidest, most pointless bullshit. it's so…….i don't even have a word for it. the fact that you can't even really escape it is what really gets me lol. this shit infects millennials, zoomers, everything. it's like i have to be a hermit online now
No. 2553343
>>2553338I’m not surprised because this board is full of impoverished troons who are depressed about their gross pointy HRT A cups and can’t afford surgery, and insecure autistic anachans with long ring fingers and excess androgens, whose discord e-bf loser Nigels are all porn addicts.
These losers fly into a rage whenever they see a woman who reminds them of their shitty relationship with their hentai addicted moid who makes them feel like they’re not good enough for having huge anime girl tits and they try to frame this insecurity and intrasexual competition as some kind of retard version of feminism. Then they get super upset when you can see right through them and call them out for it kek.
No. 2553346
>>2552816Are you the same retard who was having a meltdown about Super Sonico like a month ago? Holy fuck you’re STILL mad about that??? I would be
triggered by cartoon tits too if my bf chose wanking over it to having sex with me. I feel sorry for you. Pixels and big boobied women aren’t the enemy, your moid is. Leave him.
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>>2553351Also like think about it logically. If you have small breasts and are happy with them, why would you be upset that men lust over big titted ladies? Wouldn’t you be happy that men are leaving you alone and paying you less attention anyway, since moids are evil scum and trash? And if all big titted women are pickmes who enjoy the attention anyway, like you claim, then how does it affect you in any way and why do you want to ‘save them’?
Let them have those coomer moids, it doesn’t affect your life unless your moid is a coomer too.
No. 2553373
>>2553335Imagine being such a pickme gangbanger you unironically say shit like this. Holy shit kek
>>2553341>>2553343>>2553351Why are you so adamant on defending some Reddit moid just because some women don’t want women with absurdly big tits wearing revealing clothing. You sound like such a fucking NLOG. Go play nikke and zzz to impress the moids you love to placate so much. This all started because I said women not wanting to see oversexualized depictions doesn’t equal jealousy and that’s literal scrote thinking. This has never been controversial to point out in previous threads, and I don’t see why it is now. Stop justifying bodyshaming with more bodyshaming you fucking hypocrite. Also since you’re weirdly insistent on it, my BF loves my body and he’s not a deranged coomer like you want to be so bad.
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>>2553380All this because you can’t accept I’m right and you are bodyshaming women because they dare criticize male gaze slop. That you Addy?
>>2553381If fatty-chan didn’t lose her mind over women rightfully being upset over picrel (I decided to look for myself) and make up fantasies about my boyfriend jacking off to other girls like a scrote none of this would’ve happened. Considering the original subreddit is for male yandere stuff which is a fetish for women with low self esteem and often goes hand in hand with maledom, so I’m not surprised the users on that subreddit are defending it at least
No. 2553408
>>2553395You’re desensitized to porn and oversexualized depictions of women. As is the case with most women into nerd hobbies.
>>2553405Fat people can lose weight. Who cares? Muh fatphobia is a burger issue anyway.
No. 2553417
>>2553408you pretty much just immediately invalidated your own argument in one breath. you don't actually care about body shaming because you immediately call any woman who disagrees with you fat. i am not even fat btw, just pointing out your hypocrisy. you just don't like seeing big tits and are arguing in bad faith and multiple people have called you out on it now.
>>2553413is also correct. i think you are a very confused and low iq underage poster.
No. 2553421
>>2553399>You can’t deny that’s a porny character design. Breasts aren't even a sexual organ, that's a very male gaze/pornbrained judgement to make. And yes, skinny women with huge breasts exist, get over it. Giving them representation is not a crime.
>>2553416That goes both ways for women with large breasts too. But you're only upset about one way and think it's fine to shame one group of women but pearl clutch and cry when yours gets shamed. You can't have it both ways. Either bodyshaming women is wrong, or it isn't.
No. 2553422
>>2553413I am an adult. I just don’t care. Go read your josei smut comics with G cup women that get abused and raped by the male love interests in suits.
>>2553417It isnt about women with big breasts because you can have nonsexualized depictions of women with big tits, you’re the one acting like that can’t exist. Straight women don’t like seeing exposed tits, why is that hard for you to understand?
No. 2553426
>>2553422I don't get aroused or offended by breasts, no matter how big or small they are, because I'm straight and know that breasts are not a sexual organ. Do you also get offended when women breastfeed in public?
>Straight women don’t like seeing exposed tits, why is that hard for you to understand?I wouldn't say I don't like it. I would say that it doesn't bother me at all, no more than seeing a person's bare arms or legs bothers me, in other words, not at all. If there was a woman with huge boobs and cleavage showing standing right in front of me, I would not flinch. Same goes for character designs.
>but men will jack off to itMen will jack off to a 25kb low res picture of a woman's feet in sandals. I don't care what men are thinking or sexualize since they are going to sexualize everything anyway.
No. 2553439
>>2553421>m-muh representation?Ironic of you to call me underage when you’re bitching about representation as if women with big tits can’t just check any anime or manga ever for representation. I don’t know if you’ve ever read josei or adult manga for women, but the femc is almost ALWAYS oversexualized with gigantic tits wearing sexy clothing. The average cup size in Korea (in the case of the mentioned manga) is an A or B cup as far as I’m concerned. If anything there’s the opposite issue, where the readers are so insecure about their body they must imagine it as an idealized pornified version of themselves.
Anyway, I never once shamed women with big boobs unlike the anons here who have said degrading terms for women with small boobs like a scrote. I made fun of fatties, who cares? Being fat is a gender neutral trait and a skill issue. Also the woman in the original screenshot you defended is a pickme who uses slurs such as cunt for female characters. This typology of yumejos are always massive pickmes so I’m not surprised
No. 2553445
>>2553438You are just changing goalposts now as an attempt at some kind of gotcha. First everyone who disagreed with you was a fatty. Now everyone who disagrees with you is a pedophile too apparently.
>>2553442Completely agree. I genuinely cannot getting offended by boobs, ever. I would check myself into a mental health facility if seeing tits in public caused me to crashout like sperg-chan.
No. 2553455
>>2553426Wow, you really are brainwashed right down to the point of thinking that a woman breastfeeding and oversexualized depictions of women are the same thing. Hope you get over your ailment soon, women being objectified should always disgust you.
>>2553428You think that’s unhinged? Kek
>>2553445That anon wasn’t me but they’re right and it doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Oversexualization of women and girls is disgusting period. The fact that you as a woman aren’t offended by oversexualized depictions of them tells me everything I need to know.
>>2553449Stop putting words in my mouth retard. I think they’re both disgusting and I have panned loli faggotry on here numerous times before. Either way, I was for the most part talking about josei which to begin with shouldn’t feature hentai-tier women to begin with.
No. 2553459
>>2553455This will be my final reply to you because you still aren't getting it. But honestly you strongly give off the impression of a pornsick underagefag and have heavily internalized the male gaze. Big breasted female characters are not automatically hypersexualized or offensive, and small breasted women are not inherently 'lolis' or pedobaiting (nobody even brought up lolifag shit except you when I mentioned small boobs, jumping onto the loli wagon over small tits is just weird imo)
It's genuinely sad and concerning that you box female characters into porn categories depending on their breast size.
No. 2553467
>>2553455artists can draw their characters however they want because it's their art. if certain boob sizes are offensive to you, then don't consume that artist's art that
triggers you. seems pretty straightforward to me. there are josei characters with every boob size imaginable, i'm sure you can find one that fits you and doesn't send you spiralling.
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Okay now I'm weirded out, this thread has been laughing at josei tits forever. What's next, solid snake is actually attractive?
No. 2553475
>>2553472replace laughing with crying and you might be right, not many laughs going on here, but a whole lot of seething.
here's an idea. email the mangaka and ask them to draw their character's boobs to your personal size preference.
No. 2553479
>>2553459>honestly you strongly give off the impression of a pornsick underagefag and have heavily internalized the male gazeProjection.
>Big breasted female characters are not automatically hypersexualized or offensive, and small breasted women are not inherently 'lolis' or pedobaitingI literally said that myself.
>nobody even brought up lolifag shit except you when I mentioned small boobs, jumping onto the loli wagon over small tits is just weird imo) I say that because most if not all loli characters have small boobs, and I can’t even think of any single anime or manga besides maybe like 3 where a small chested character ISNT a loli.
>It's genuinely sad and concerning that you box female characters into porn categories depending on their breast size.Oh no, I grouped characters designed to appeal to moids fetishes into their rightful boxes. The horror!
>>2553461You know EXACTLY what I mean, don’t play coy.
>>2553467This is the same logic libfems use to justify women oversexualizing themselves and other women under patriarchal conditions.
>>2553472Influx of twitterfags. Not even a few threads ago those same people were seething over an anon calling that character ugly ironically enough
No. 2553483
>>2553479literally just don't consume art that
triggers you then. how hard is this to do? what's the ideal booby size that doesn't send you into a spiral? i'll email the mangaka right now for you and request it. i think you're just intentionally looking for things to rage over lol.
No. 2553490
>>2553480>Tbh I don't really give a shit about tits unless it's taking half of the screen up and covering the sexy mani agree nona and you're one of the few level headed people in this thread. tbh i cant even remember a josei where that actually happened, but you're probably correct that it does in a handful of particularly porny joseis.
thing is that anon is acting like the female character here
>>2553389 has some insanely ridiculously huge triple Z cup boobs, when it looks like a large DD or E cup at most to me (not even a rare boob size irl). also she was whining about the boobies being exposed? they're fully covered in that screenshot even, lol.
No. 2553493
>>2553479I was on your side at first because I too have encountered stuff like
>>2553438 and I thought that's what you were talking about in general. But then it turns out you mean this
>>2553389? Which is literally a completely normal body type and not even drawn in a particularly sexualized way. Get a grip. I think you've started out being mad about a legitimate issue and then gotten oversensitized into fuming over not just actual sexualization, but any body type a man could possibly find attractive at all, which is all of them.
No. 2553494
>>2553486i'm trying to help you nona. i am fluent in japanese too. give me the artist names whose art is
triggering you and the character names whose bodies you want them to change to your liking, and i'll email them right now, saying that their art is too sexualized and misogynistic and that they need to change it asap.
No. 2553514
>>2553499But you’d want a character that resembles your body, no? Why would a woman with small tits want a S/I big boobs unless she’s afflicted with patriarchal conditioning?
>>2553497I will not fall
victim to you libfems gaslighting me into thinking that is totally nonsexualized
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>>2553502I personally think the way Haesoo is drawn is beautiful, as well as Taeha. I didn't sexualize her, because I have no interest in doing so. They are both gives exaggerated characteristics (large boobs for Haesoo, massive shoulders for Taeha, both have very young looking and beautiful faces) so it's not like some fat ugly bastard stuff with a hideous shittily drawn male character and a pornified female. Taeha is meant to be beautiful and idealized looking too. Some coomers probably will hypersexualize Haesoo but hey, coomers sexualize everything, so who really gives a shit.
It's an 18+ manhwa with adult themes, it's not meant to be read by tweens. It would be a problem imo if Haesoo was presented as some brainless bimbo pickme with no depth, but she's actually given a lot of depth and isn't made out to be a one dimensional slut at all. People who are seeing her as a smut character are just projecting onto her imo.
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>>2553521You are so boring and miserable.
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>>2553389>anons defending thistopkek whats going on, next they are going to defend super sonico
No. 2553534
>>2553523If I wanted to fap and was immediately granted with a female more sexualized than the male id be put off immediately and not wanna masturbate.
>>2553526Nope. I just don’t like men who look like they take dick on the regular and have had their lip fillers and BBL paid for by their sugar daddies.
No. 2553543
>>2553536>defending the mascot for a company that makes loli rape games with the artist drawing toddlercon porn of herRetarded or newfag, which one?
>>2553538Nope. I just don’t fall
victim to patriarchal social programming
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>>2553544This bait is a bit too much.
No. 2553563
>>2553529you dont get it anon, they have 18z natural self supporting breasts, a waist so tiny its literally just empty space between their tits and their ass
and a tiny frame with a gigantic natural ass that everyone stares at
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>>2553529the funniest part is this is old(er) sonico art, her proportions have only gotten more insane. spoilered just in case.
No. 2553571
>>2553529No, because what this argument boils down to is Sonico is bad because she's for moids while
>>2553389 isn't because she's from a comic for women.
This is why I don't care about women complaining about sexualization in media. Anons would be shitting on Haesoo's design instead if she looked exactly the same but placed in a moid comic.
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>>>/ot/2552562A fanbase that I'm glad is inevitably going to become a fraction by the end of 2025. IHNMAIMS dogwalks MW to hell and back anyway. Even Ib is more fun as a game because at least in there you can fuck up in different ways to get more than one ending. Story-based games need to get used to having more than one ending and way to play the game. MW doesn't do anything with itself other than basically say "look at what a piece of shit Jimmy is". If the appeal of a game is the story and there's only one ending you can get, what reason ever is there to play it more than once or just twice?
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>>2553389You might get booed and heckled for your opinion, but I agree. The way Haesoo is drawn feels a little off to me too. No other woman in the entire manhwa has her proportions. I have noticed that some korean shojosei manhwa tend to give the FL comically huge boobs as a visual marker of how she is supposed to be the superior woman. Meanwhile, the male characters like Taeha and Mincheol all have similar, balanced proportions.
I remember reading another manhwa "Your Majesty Please Spare Me", where the FL had this ridiculously huge monoboob. It looked especially wild next to all the other female characters, who were drawn normally. It is not even just about the art though. What really kills the experience for me is how these stories treat every single woman who is not the FL.
Almost without fail every other female character is written as some jealous, bitter bitch who exists just to make the FL look good. Haesoo's coworker was actually sweet to her at first, and then out of nowhere she flips and turns into a bitch. Then there is that other retard who sleeps with Haesoo’s ex-husband. The ex is actual trash so I can overlook this instance. Even in the flashbacks, every single woman is horrible to Haesoo just because Mincheol has a crush on her.
It is hard to take any of this seriously when the entire cast is just there to prop up the main girl. Feels less like a story and more like straight-up wish fulfillment.