/pt/ - lolcow general

Keep waiting for that update video she promised "in a few days".
Its been a few days, so where is this video?
Perhaps shes too busy "finding an online job" to film.
And about this "online job", I think we all know what that job is going to be, now that she's "thin" and "pretty".

>>491878
>I think we all know what that job is going to be

Well, that would be hilarious, so I hope she does. But you know in the future she will make it that it was all Josh's idea, and he FORCED HER TO DO IT.

>>491892
But of course he will force her to do it, with all his couchy might and power!

After all, they need plushies!!!
And perhaps to pay some bills, but fuck that when there are PLUSHIES on the line. And also gaudy amazon wishlist goffik things to decorate the trailer that was more than a trailer.
..Perhaps another tacky, horrid quality polyester Chucky shirt for josh too?

Great thread description, anon!

I fucking adore you, thread anon, that pic made my day.
I wish she addresses the pets and Joshs family in this new vid, 'cuz she could not shut up about them and went suspiciously silent about both topics.

>>491954
but Gravy, don't you remember? moving to the US with the love that is more than love was supposed to fix all your problems! you were all set to live your dream life and no longer complain on the internet 24/7 - in fact, you weren't even supposed to have time to make whiney videos because you were going to be soooo busy going out and doing things!

weird how the negativity follows you, no matter what country you're in, or which new gullible man you're with…

>>491954
How is she ordering selfie sticks and this other shit when they have all these bills and unpaid rent and other bullshit. Yeah, taking photos is so important.

The reason she’s not making videos is because she knows we’re watching and laughing. You’re bitching again, Ravey. Already. Not happy. If you were, you’d be throwing it in everyone’s face.

>>491954
Bitch
Get
A
Job
>Oh wait, it's raven nvm

>>491954
Such a good video. Has shit talking Dorian, implying bad things about Logan, her talking about how she doesn’t do shit and bought multiple selfie sticks. Plus the bonus info about being too poor to pay rent. All classic Raven bitching.

In not surprising news the car she was warned about needs a ton of work they cannot afford, and with no job and no money it looks like she will be begging her one friend for a place to stay soon.

So she's once again claiming she is going to stop posting online. Bet this one will last!


Also my favourite part of the video is where she says
>I have a real life friend now!
Amazing.

>>491954

My heart isn't in it anymore…

Published on Mar 6, 2018

Hey guys. Wow, a long time, right? Long time, no talk, long time, no see. Sorry about my hair and the way I look. I just woke up. I was taking a nap because Josh has gone to go help his mom and his brother, and I decided it was a good time to take and nap because I sleep…I like to sleep spread the fuck out, and with him I sleep cuddled up with him, and so I got to just spread out and all that, I don't know.

But the neighbors have a dog, and the dog doesn't ever stop fucking barking. He just sits out there, there's two of them, and they just sit out there [barks] and they keep going. It's like they're talking to each other. And the neighbors don't shut them up. And it's like, oh my fucking god. They are so loud. They've got them locked in separate pens. And I'm sorry, but if you can't shut your fucking dog up and you've got neighbors and other people that those dogs are disturbing, you shouldn't fucking own dogs. Maybe it's just me, but it is fucking annoying. I can't stand it. And they go all hours of the day and night, all fucking hours.

And so I just woke up, decided to do my redrawing of the last four prizes in my video, and then I figured while I was awake and on camera and by myself I will go ahead and just do a video. Not that I mind Josh being here, but, you know, if I'm gonna do an update video instead of, like, making him get dressed and stuff I'll do it myself and whatever or whatever.

Um, nothing much has really happened. Still no word in the job front. There was…there's been a lot of scam jobs coming through. Like, it raises your hopes, but then it's just like, can I have your bank account details, your login details? Like, no you fucking can't.

And this job firing him fucked us over in so many ways. Like, we can't afford to get the proper license plate for the..we'vee got a 45-day plate on which it's gonna run out at some point. We need to get the proper plate. That's like 65 fucking dollars. We are a month behind in our power, and then the next power bill is going to be coming up. That's something…there's something wrong with the Jeep. Like we had mentioned, it's not in the best of shape, and the belt is still squeaking and, like, burning. And we need to get a spare tire, we have to change one of the tires. And it's just there's all the shit that needs to be looked at with it, and we don't have money for that. We need to get oil for it, we don't have money for that. We're on a quarter of a tank of gas, we don't have money for that. We did get food so we have food. Rent is coming up, we don't have money for that. And it's just it's so stressful and overwhelming right now.

And none of this should have happened because Josh was a really, really good worker, and I know that he was. He would leave every morning, drive an hour to go to work and then drive an hour back and then do his stuff. And he was just he'd work all day, all night. At Christmas…oh my god, Christmas was so hard on him because he was, like, sometimes working out there till like two o'clock in the morning, from like seven o'clock in the morning to 2:00 in the morning. And he didn't get, like, overtime for it. He got, I think, a hundred dollars, I think a hundred, a hundred and fifty dollar bonus. But it wasn't really a bonus because he was also working six days a week, so they really fucked him over. Not to mention they still owed him seven hundred dollars from when he was…he transitioned from training to full-time. They still paid him training rates for, like, two or three weeks, and so they underpaid him a lot that he'll never see.

So it's a really stressful time right now for us. It's not, not great. We're looking…I look every day. He's applied for…god, about a hundred and fifty fucking jobs. He showed me his, his email, and there's nothing but job applications. And it doesn't really matter. We're in just a really bad area for this shit right now as well. Everything's so far away. And I don't know, it's stress, stress, stress.

But aside from that, you, you probably will have noticed I really don't post…I mentioned this today, anyway, on Facebook. But I really don't post stuff anymore. I really don't make videos anymore. I really don't take pictures anymore. I do want to take photos. I am waiting…I keep ordering these selfie sticks or these holders that have got a bluetooth remote, but they keep sending me the holders and the sticks, but they aren't sending me the remotes. So I tried it one more time. I do this…I've got this app where you spin for prizes or points, and I win points quite often. And I've got like $20 in points, and then I had like $50 in free cash or whatever it's called, and I used that to get a selfie stick from Kmart or Sears, Sears or Kmart, and so I'm waiting for that to come in the mail. Then I can go outside and take some proper photos. So I do want to take photos again.

As far as really posting and talking to people and being on social media, I've got really no interest in that anymore, not really since I moved here. After the initial, "Oh my god, I'm here with Josh, I'm here in America" passed, I'm just happy to live my life, you know. People say, don't, don't go away, make videos, make videos. I want to see and I've tried to hang on and stay for you guys, but I just really don't enjoy it. I, I don't need social media to take me away from the shit that is my life anymore. Even though we're going through this, I'm still overall happy. I mean, Josh is, like, the sweetest, most wonderful guy, and he treats me so well. Like, he leaves, he comes home and gets me Slim Jims and, you know. Or when he was working he always brings me a little something, always calls me and writes me and just keeps in contact with me, tells me he misses me and he loves me. He looks at me, tells me I'm beautiful, and he just…he makes me feel like I'm appreciated and loved and I'm on top of the world. And I'm just happy having a life with him and just being with him. And so on social media I mostly just share funny stuff or interesting stuff I come across, but I don't really, like, talk or post about myself unless something like us being given the Jeep comes up. I mean, I want to post some stuff. But then it's like the day is gone. We just sit here together and we watch stuff. We're watching Supernatural, watched the whole Saul series and Jigsaw. Jigsaw sucked balls. Then we're gonna watch House and all this other shit.

And, and then he's going to be working hopefully soon, or we're camping out on the street. But you know, we love our time together, and it never seems like there's enough time. We just sit here together, and we just love being together. Sometimes we'll just sit on our phones and play our stupid little Android games or whatever. And we're just quite content to be in each other's company. Like, we are so compatible, we think so much alike, you know. I'll say something, and this has happened without fail every day, at least a handful of times a day, where he has said, "I was right about to say that." And it doesn't matter what it is, we're like that, you know. We are on the same level with everything, and it is so cool. And I can sit here and I can listen to music. Cuz I like to listen to music when I'm getting ready or if I'm editing or something like that, and he doesn't complain. And he, like, knows all my music. He knows, like, all these stupid things that are important to me, he knows. And last night I have an album of old TV themes and I played the themes and he was guessing them. Like, he knows the shit from my era. I mean, we're only ten years apart, but he still knows this shit. And it's just little things like that, it's all these little things that build it up into, like, the most amazing relationship.

And I don't want to surround myself with negativity, and being online that's all you really see. I had stop comments coming in on my Youtube because I was just sick of just ignorance and just fucking people just being dicks just because they can. And I re-allowed comments, and the day I re-allowed comments I got someone talking shit about me. I got someone talking shit about me and Josh because apparently we looked dirty or something in our last video. Like, I'm sorry if our post-sex hair and face offended you, you know. I mean, I'm kidding. But we're not fucking dirty, you know. We're fucking clean. It's just sorry, like, I don't wash my hair that often because I'm trying to keep the dye in. And I don't go anywhere, we don't go anywhere. He cleans himself all the time. Usually when you see him he's just wet his hair down to stop flyaways, and the wet hair can possibly look like grease. So he does not have greasy hair at all or dry hair. He's got the most luxurious, soft, beautiful hair ever. And he is the cleanest guy I've ever been with. I could go more into detail about that, but I will not. Suffice it to say, he is clean, I am clean, and it was just a fucking bullshit dig. Like wow, okay, is that all you can do with your life? Please.

And of course there come the comments about Marmalade on her video about that fucking asshole in the background. And, you know, it's like, you can sit there and watch the video, but you can't take five seconds to look at the description where I explained the situation? Instead, you want to come and did I just hear someone in background sayin' the N word? And it's like, you know what, I'm sorry if at the time I videoed it I was more focused on my beautiful little baby giving birth for the first and only time instead of some fucking little asshole racist douchebag in the background who was so childish he couldn't control himself because he sucks at video games that he's sitting there talking shit he shouldn't be saying. I didn't even, like, focus on it at the moment because I was focused on her. I had already pre-warned him not to say that shit. And I made a full fucking video about everything that I get asked and hassled about on the Marmalade video, and it's ridiculous that people can sit and judge, but they can't like look a little bit deeper into it. If it bothers you that much at least look a little bit more into it in the comments or in the description. I even say there is a video answering all of your questions and here's a link. But people just want to sit and talk shit, you know. That's, that's all they're good for. And you know, when I was editing the video, I'm putting it together, I didn't even edit, I think that was back before I was doing intros and shit, I don't really remember, it was a while ago and a lot has happened to me since then, but I didn't remember it or even think about it because that wasn't my focus. My focus was my kitty cat, you know. And that's all other people seem to hear and focus on. And there's nothing I can do about it unless I remove the entire video, and I'm not gonna do that, so you can just deal with it or not. But I'm tired of hearing about it. And it's shit like that they gets me riled up.

And you know, that's like, why the fuck do I want to be on social media, you know. I need to think about my own happiness instead of always trying to do something for other people which is show my face for whatever reason so they can monitor my weight and see if I've gained weight or to see, you know, how old and rough I look or do I look happy, does Josh look happy, trying to tear apart my life. Why am I gonna put myself out there when I have a real life?

I have a real life friend now. Julianne lives like half an hour from me, and I've seen her twice now. And we're planning to move where she is if we can, and it's a beautiful place, and I'll have a close friend, and she…I've known her for many many many years. She's been a sweetheart to me, one of, one of the top of my closest friends, you know, with Rowan and Duke and [she burps] sorry, Julie. And I, I've got…no, I didn't say Julianne I said "Julie and", I know that sounded like Julianne, and I did say Julianne at the beginning, though. Anyway, I have a handful of people that I've considered my really, really close friends that I have not met in person that are online, and I just so happened to have moved kind of in the middle, pretty close to all of them. And I was able to go and meet her, and so I've got a real-life friend who's like a sister. I've got other friends I haven't caught up with because I haven't been on social media. I'm trying to reconnect with my best friend in El Paso, Brenda. I've given her my number, and she's having a hard time reaching me, but we'll end up talking, you know. I've spoken to my mom, I've spoken to my mom's friends. And I've got Josh, you know.

I've got a good life now. I don't need to bury myself in social media to hide or to forget my life or to pretend I'm happy or put up a front, you know. I don't need to do that anymore, and so I'm not, and that's why I'm not really around as much. If there's a reason to make a video, then I'll make a video. But you know, to be completely honest with you I don't get paid enough to sit here and keep putting myself out there just to take abuse and abuse and to be judged and to have ignorant people coming at me for shit that they don't know anything about and they really don't care to look into. Life is too short. I have moved halfway across the world to have this life, and I have it, and I'm not letting it go. And to sit here and put myself out there continuously as much as I was, inviting in the abuse and the judgments and the spying and the stalking, that's not gonna get me anywhere, you know. It's gonna undo everything I've…I'm trying to build here, and I really don't need to do that to myself or to Josh. That's not what I came over here for. I came over here to have a real life. And I don't even really think of social media most days.

I actually saw something today that pissed me the fuck off. It was some guy saying that he was gonna unfriend and block all the stupid bitches online that get offended by getting dick pics. And then some girl was laughing about it and saying, oh yeah, I've never gotten one, but those girls are stupid. And I saw her commenting and, like, laughing at girls that were like, you know, way this is just wrong, I'm just gonna unfriend myself. And it's like, you know, shit like that, you know what I mean. Like, why should anybody have to subject themselves to getting unsolicited photos?

Like, I always hate, I hate being put in groups now. They can make you like pages you don't want to like. If a friend makes a page they can force you to like it. You've got no real protection. I I'm in a bunch of groups, and I comment or ask questions and I don't get notified. I can't even see the message in my others folder or my whatever fuck they've renamed it. I don't even see those messages there in the first place unless I click to reply to somebody or, like, I'm gonna write to them in the first place. Then they'll message…their message will pop up. But all that, that I want to see is hidden from me. But yeah, any random out there can message me even if they're not on my friends list. It doesn't always go to filtered messages, that's what it's called, filtered, doesn't always go there. And they can call me on messenger. They send dick pictures. And it's like, there's only so much you can do. And as far as abuse goes you can't really report abuse. I mean, if they don't specifically name you or say anything that's really horrendous, and even then it's jumping through hoops to try to find something to click on that they will remove it. There's no protection for you on Facebook. And all you're confronted with are assholes and just people that start shit and now a lot of nudity. Like I say, fucking nipples left and fucking right. And I'm sorry, I don't want to see somebody else's nipples. I'm not on Facebook for that shit.

Um, you see lots of videos of animals being abused. The new wave is seeing people burning animals alive. I've seen a lot of those videos where they're holding up, like, dogs and cats and setting fire to them alive. And it's like, Facebook is just focusing on all the wrong things, and they're not protecting the right things, and it's just it's just more stress than it's worth. It really is.

And if anybody wants to contact me they know my email address and if they're really, really important they know my phone number. Um, otherwise it's not really a great loss. I mean, I'm, I'm nobody. You might waste your time and watch me, but really, I'm really nobody. And it's just not worth what it's done to my head over the past 10 years to keep it up when I have something so good in real life here.

So I'm not deleting my channel or anything like that, but that's why I'm just kind of MIA on all fronts for them. I don't really respond to you messages or anything. If you message me on Youtube I don't get it. YouTube's set up all fucking stupid. I really don't like trying to navigate to find messages. I just, I don't really look in my messages folder. And when I do every few months I see like [hand motion of lots of messages] I'm like, oh shit, and I feel bad. But I mean, my email I just is listed on there, and I will get every email, so just email me there. But I really don't often answer because I know a lot of the time the people writing me are not real and they're just lolcow or somebody trying to get in to find out what's going on in my life, and I just don't have time for that, I really don't.

So um, that's about all I have to say. I hope you guys understand, I really do. And then, of course, in my other video what I'd said about the competition. And it's just like, that just kind of was, like, one of the last straws for me. And I just, I don't know, I just want to live a real life. I don't want to be addicted to social media like I was. And it feels really good just to kind of…I go out, sometimes I don't even have my phone, you know. Really what I do online is I go and I look at different pages like Knowable or Tickled and I get the little articles and I click "save". And then when I eat I read them because I don't have, you know, like, any books here or anything, and that's about all I do. If I, I go to explore feed and if I see something cool I share it, and that's really about it. I don't have my hand in anything anymore, and I'm fine with that.

So um, thank you guys for being here through, through all this anyway. And I'm sorry if I pull away and I end up not posting like ever again one day which I'm sure will happen. Hopefully you guys can understand. I mean, it's not like you can't live without me, hey obviously, you know. So uh, I'll be around here and there. I'll answer emails. I do check my emails. But aside from that just take care, be cool, be whatever, don't be a dick. And I will see you when I see you.

>>491999

>Has shit talking Dorian, implying bad things about Logan

I don't think we ever figured out who it was in the background of the video of Marmalade.

>>492045
>We need to get the proper plate. That's like 65 fucking dollars. We are a month behind in our power, and then the next power bill is going to be coming up.

It's almost as if you're meant to have money saved up to keep such things from happening! You'd think an old hag would know that instead of spending every single cent on worthless things like makeup and plushies.

>>492045
The fuck kind of people does she have friended on FB that she sees animals getting burned alive? Going to go out on a limb here and say she’s full of shit.

>>492045
spends her life on FB, doesn't know how to use settings. good job.

also kek at the real life friend. what happened to the family that were like her super-best-friends and totally shared all her interests?

>We are a month behind in our power, and then the next power bill is going to be coming up

did they get kicked out or not?

Josh, you seriously downgraded. Meanwhile, your ex is better off without you.

>>492067
If they didn't, fear not bc they definitely will since they cant pay for shit.

>>492045

this is just incredible, thank you transcript anon <3

>I keep ordering these selfie sticks or these holders that have got a bluetooth remote
no money for rent, power (how you gonna charge your phones to play farmville when your power gets cut?), license plate, fan belt, tires, gas or oil for the jeep, needs to accept charity food, talks of being close to being "on the street" but you know what? none of that matters; ravey has totally non-slutty nudes to post on the social media she absolutely does not care for anymore. selfie stick = top priority investment!

> Josh is, like, the sweetest, most wonderful guy because he:
> leaves
> comes home
> gets me slim jims
> looks at me
> calls me beautiful
> was like totally gonna just say whatever i just said
> doesn't complain about music
> knows TV themes

> And it's just little things like that, it's all these little things that build it up into, like, the most amazing relationship.

wew, gravy. that's absolutely what makes a good relationship… for a tween

> We're fucking clean.
(i don't wash my hair or remove my makeup but we're not fucking dirty, you know. like wow, okay?)

>I don't get paid enough to sit here and keep putting myself out there
and i don't get paid enough to watch your boring shit, ravey

>I'm sorry if I pull away and I end up not posting like ever again one day which I'm sure will happen
lol sure. you require external validation like normal people require oxygen, you needy disordered freak. ten years of haydurs and you still come back for more. you can't leave <3

seriously though, it's fucking amazing just how quickly the arse fell out of everything. how much further can they sink??

>>491954
And all the "rescue" pets are never spoken of again, what a surprise! I wish she'd at least ATTEMPT to go into damage control over it instead of sweeping it under the rug and waiting for her "fans" to forget… what a responsible old hag, at least she's prioritizing those selfie sticks y'all!

>>492045
>But the neighbors have a dog, and the dog doesn't ever stop fucking barking.
>And I'm sorry, but if you can't shut your fucking dog up and you've got neighbors and other people that those dogs are disturbing, you shouldn't fucking own dogs.
Dogs bark, that's what they do. What's up with your neighbors since you can't just go over there and ask them to take the dogs inside since this bothers you, like a normal person?
Or you could get ear plugs, which you CAN afford if you can get selfie sticks.

>I do want to take photos.
Of course you need to start taking photos for you portfolio for suspect internet modeling so you can make some bank, we get it. Dont forget to link us.

>But you know, we love our time together, and it never seems like there's enough time.
For now, sooner or later you always start finding "problems" and then you don't give two fucks, and start making videos again. We'll be waiting.

>And I don't want to surround myself with negativity, and being online that's all you really see. I had stop comments coming in on my Youtube because I was just sick of just ignorance and just fucking people just being dicks just because they can.
You have spent the better part of your life being surrounded by negativity and never gave a fuck, so why do you now kek. Make some videos to "vent" about it for your 3 patrons, why don't you?

> Like wow, okay, is that all you can do with your life? Please.
All YOU can do is complain on the internet, post "classy" nudes, yell at innocent people who do not share your fucked up opinions or are not brown nosing you.

>And you know, that's like, why the fuck do I want to be on social media, you know.
Because, you know, like, you need the uh, the validation. You know. Keep it up its riveting.

>I have a real life friend now.
Congratulations, took you long enough, kek. How long do you thin it will last since you keep bumming food off your "real life friend"?

>to be completely honest with you I don't get paid enough to sit here and keep putting myself out there just to take abuse.
Well if you applied yourself and actually POSTED you would make the tiniest amount of bank, you do have 10k followers now so the opportunity is there.
But let's be real its just like, WAY better you know, to be like, in internet porn modeling. -Oh sorry I meant a "professional internet model", my bad.

>>492045
Can anyone who's been here for a long time confirm if this is part of her pattern? This whole "REEE BC OF INTERNET HAYDURZ GONNA STOP MAKING VIDEOS" thing?
Don't want her to stop making videos because it's just too funny.
Does anyone know?

>>492174
Yes. She even faked her death once.
She always comes back, there is always trouble in paradise and she has to make videos to beg for money.

>>492175
Yeah I know about that I've read all her threads and been here a while, but not as long as some. She is my favorite cow though so it would suck if all her milk dried up.

So most likely then its just some phase, thank you!

>>492045
>And none of this should have happened because Josh was a really, really good worker

I mean, maybe he was a good worker. But he had an accident that totaled a car and left at least one person seriously injured, for a job that requires a driver's license without any encumbrances on it. I don't believe the story about the owner firing half the staff. I think Josh was let go because he was on probation and he got fired for having a license with serious violations on it. Come on Raven, I know you aren't a reasonable person, but this line of thought is just super lame.

>>492174
if anything, she tends to crank out more content after these kinds of declarations.
she always complains about negativity (in between shitting on everyone she has ever known), says she is like so over it like whatever, then comes up with some excuse to continue. faking her death was a classic. I'm personally very fond of her patreon, where she honestly thought people would be lining up to pay money for videos she cbfed making anyway.
she always needs the attention, but even more when the honeymoon of her relationships is over. Look at what an asshole this guy is / was! here's all these things I never told you because it never happened I was being nice. if she couldn't paint herself as the eternal victim to her 'fans' via the internet, she'd probably take out an ad in the paper about it or do a flyer drop around the carpark at the local walmart.

>>492209
>if she couldn't paint herself as the eternal victim to her 'fans' via the internet, she'd probably take out an ad in the paper about it or do a flyer drop around the carpark at the local walmart.
KEEEK!
Well then I'll be looking forward to her sperging.

What a surprise that she doesn't mention the dog or the kitties at all.

>>492304
She sold them so she could buy food… no wait… selfie sticks.

How is her power on if they're a month behind? CA Edison turns power off after a week.

>>492355
A lot of places where I have been give you more time to rack up the debt. Especially if it is cold outside and winter.

>>492355

They easily qualify for benefits.

South Carolina Low Income Home Energy Assistance (LIHEAP)
https://www.benefits.gov/benefits/benefit-details/1548

South Carolina LIFELINE Program
https://www.htcinc.net/stay-connected/

SNAP
https://dss.sc.gov/assistance-programs/snap/>>491874

>I've got this app where you spin for prizes or points, and I win points quite often. And I've got like $20 in points, and then I had like $50 in free cash or whatever it's called, and I used that to get a selfie stick from Kmart or Sears

These are the apps she is using.

https://winitapp.com

https://www.shopyourway.com/winit/recent-activity

>>492045
>post sex hair

FUCKING BARF. I love how much time she spent to talk about how she's not dirty. It was probably one comment and suddenly she has to become ultra defensive about hygiene. She cracks me up. And the fact that she makes a video post sex means they're probably all sweaty from each other and stink like genitalia. The mind of oversharing Raven.

>>492482
She says in the comments that he already hot denied for unemployment. Not that I believe her. They likely haven't actually tried because that means they have to peel themselves off the crusty bed that was more than a bed

>>492492
and the days go by so fast when they are both sitting around doing absolutely nothing!
rayray just doesn't have TIME to apply for things or film videos or try to get a job. time flies when you're binge watching shows all day!

>>492492

Between what she said in her video and her comments, she is implying that he was paid as a trainee after he had transitioned to full, and thus was ineligible for unemployment because he had not been paid as a full employee for long enough.

>>492492
No I’m sure he applied he was just turned down because he was fired with cause. You don’t get unemployment if you were fired with cause. I’m sure he tried to latch onto unemployment ASAP but got denied. He wouldn’t have qualified for benefits for very long since he only worked a few months, but he got bupkis because he was fired. Unemployment is for ppl who lose their job through no fault of their own, like being laid off, otherwise lazy twits would do stuff to get fired so they could live off unemployment. It just confirms he was fired for a reason, not just because of a new owner (had that been the case he would’ve qualified for unemployment because that’s considered being laid off.)

Also why do people post links to SC govt benefits sites on here for Raven? Does she need a helping hand to be a bigger leech?

>>492544

And South Carolina is an employment-at-will state. In the comments she is surprised and indignant at finding this out and that it is even a thing.

I posted the links to show that she is being a hypocrite (having kicked out Dorian for not signing on) and to let her supporters know that she has options; they should not believe her victim narrative and send her money.

>>492544
this makes sense (foreign ignoramus here), I assumed he would've gotten knocked back because of that, and I don't believe for a second they took him on full-time, unless he hid the accident or something. Hard worker or not, when you fuck up the exact thing you're trying to do for a job and show poor decision-making about safety, you're not a good prospect.

>why do people post links to SC govt benefits sites on here for Raven?

presumably because it's interesting to know / relevant … and it's become kind of an-joke because she refuses to do any of it with or without our help.

>>492544
Right. If someone came in, like she said, and had laid off tons of employees then it would have been a major cost on behalf of the new employer. I believe unemployment is paid 50% by the employer. With a job like Fed Ex, Josh should have qualified for unemployment, especially in a high unemployment state like SC. More evidence that Josh was fired for being a shit driver with his cow of a fiancee.

>>492554
Josh isn't a good prospect because he has no real skills. He got off his mom's couch for a couple of months and his resume looks like shit. Not only that, but his garbage resume shows he only worked as a driver for a such a short time with a long unemployment stint. No skills + no history of employment makes you unemployable. Now if Josh really wanted to pay the bills, he could apply to a McDonalds. I'm sure fatass southern living would even tolerate a loser like Josh working for their fine establishment.

>>492560
Not sure how it works in the states, but over here in ON, Canada, you don't qualify for EI if you haven't been working steadily, which he hasn't. You also aren't entitled to two weeks notice or two weeks pay if you are fired during a probation period. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if the accident did have something to do with him being fired.

>>492560

He wasn't employed directly by FedEx. FedEx Ground routes are contracted, and he was employed by the contractor.

He took the day off after the accident, so his employer definitely knew that he had been in an accident.

He already had moving violations in the 18 months prior to being hired on his driving record.

>>492561

Then why are you posting about the law in Ontario?

South Carolina Unemployment Benefits Eligibility Requirements

https://dew.sc.gov/individuals/apply-for-benefits/eligibility-requirements

>>492560
>Josh isn't a good prospect because he has no real skills.

well yeah, I took that as a given … couch is as couch does.

>>492561
AU here, and NZ is even more generous than us. She had it all and pissed it away for this. It's glorious.

>>492560

He was working for a gardening center in Greenwood iirc last year.

>>492574
I think that was only once a week and because his mum knows the owners?

>>492601

The only employment listed

https://parkseed.com/about-us/a/50/

An anon in the fourth thread said that he hauls plants two days a week at a nursery for his uncle, but I couldn't find the source of that info.

All the talk of how much she filters and shops him to look younger made me think of this video chat from June in which she told him, "You actually look really fucking young right now!"

Compared to how he looks now he did look young. Raven's vampirism confirmed.

>>492608
He went from being supported by a woman to supporting a woman (beasty rather). He's dead inside.

>>492553
lol at her being indignant. Guess those Kiwi benefits aren't looking so bad these days, eh Gravy?

>>492571
While I don't doubt he got fired for good cause, private contractors can't collect unemployment (at least in my state).

Ha!

>>492634
OMG, how long has this person been following Raven? Talk about being willfully blind. Has this person SEEN how raven talks to her own child? I wouldn't let Raven within 50 yards of my kid, much less have her taking care of them. FFS

>>492634
WTF?! Raven can’t even take care of a cat or dog, how the fuck does this person think she is going to be great at taking care of the young and elderly??? She couldn’t even be bothered when Dorian was a child. I hope this person is just a new follower because if not, Jesus.

You can also be denied employment if you didn't make enough the previous year or if you are still in the 90 day probation period.

Also, are we sure he was actually a driver? I was under the impression he was one of the driver's helpers they hire around the holidays. In the video where she calls him at work he's in the passenger seat.

>>492662

That was in September while he was in training. He was hired in August which seems too early for a holiday position. FedEx Ground delivery drivers work solo AFAIK.

Remember when we observed how thirsty for attention Gir the Alien Goldfish was during their drama?

On KF she is now referring to herself in the third person and claiming credit for Raven withdrawing from the internet.

>>492812
lord what cringe

>>492814

She's still using her clever pic of herself holding a raven on her finger as her Facebook image and has the post of her response video pinned.

>>492812
She was relevant for Raven drama for, what? Barely a day? Even after Raven's sperging was done she kept going and going. I hate to say it, but the 40 year old mall goth is being more mature/reasonable than this attention whore. There's literally no reason to keep bring up your 15 minutes of gossip forum fame Gir.

>>492812
Dumbest shit ever. Did she forget that she already identified herself? I was confused as fuck when I saw that. The Kiwis were pretty nice to her too and she pulls this ultra autistic move. Kinda killed the thread.

>>492812
She should be the poster girl for the KF General thread. She’s so absolutely stupid and cowtippy.

Lol at least the kiwis are catching on in that thread

>>492920
So nice to see she’s getting autistic ratings.

lol why do they get this stuff when neither of them work or how even

>>492960
That's new is it from a new video?

>>492812

I doubt "a whole bunch of people came out and told Gir (on her page)that Rave is a massive bitch and how much they hated her."

Her page has only 675 likes and her video only 236 views (probably nearly all anons and farmers).

Only two comments are visible; she is hiding the rest as well as the ratings.

>>492898

She just wants to be a revered farmer; all of her posts scream "tryhard". She went out of her way to antagonise Raven, and she never posted a screenshot of what she said to Raven in the first place. She claims to have simply called Raven a liar which is not enough to elicit the reaction she got. And whatever she said was enough to get her page suspended at least temporarily.

>>492961
its on her fb https://www.facebook.com/The.moon.follows.me.home

>>492960

That wasn't taken in their LTWMTL Shack.

And has she taken the jewelry out of her cheek and side lip piercings?

>>492964

Caption?

I don't know which is grosser: the picture or their comments.

>>492960
Lol, at first I thought she had put herself in a corset or spanx but no she’s just tried to photoshop herself a waist. Hilarious

>>492960
Food stamps.

>>492963

she deleted this post. maybe she finally realised how fucking embarrassing it is to wank yourself off on KF of all places. sad

>>492960
>>492965

The jewelry is still there.

So he recorded her dancing with cases of Slim Jims? Does she unwrap and eat them teasingly and swing them around as if performing some trailer trash burlesque?

>>492812
>>492858
>>492962

I was originally joking when I said Gir should get a thread. I'm downgrading that to half-joking

>>492984

really starting to show her age. also kek at the lunch lady arms. so glad that as they beg for help with power bills and rent, 'baby' couchie is still able to supply the essentials. good prioritizing, kids.

>>492991
in no way does some desperado warrant a thread.

>>492960
so she's binging on jerky?

>>492998
yeah, you're right. I'd forgotten the high standards of /snow/ these days. cough

>>492984
Oh gravy, please eat enough of those to give yourself sodium kidney stones.

>>493002

This is what she is stuffing into her maw and clogging her arteries with.

Each case contains 18 sticks.

>>493000
let's help the quality by not starting a gir thread.

>>493006

She's not milky anyway.

I found yet another gallery of old pictures which haven't been posted here!

https://hiveminer.com/Tags/gross%2Cvinyl

>>493015

Many more at the link.

More at https://hiveminer.com/Tags/black,bodymods

kek never seen her look more like a drag queen than here.

Another Google account for the OP.

https://plus.google.com/+RavenSparks-Starblood

This one is linked to https://m.youtube.com/user/TheRaven0us1

>>492960
She's posing with it the way my little asspie ass posed with my new AG doll at christmas when i was like… 8…
That's how passionate she is about slim jims.

>>492984
She should just jump on the mukbang train for yt $$.

>>493015

I wonder if Ryan's neighbors ever caught a glimpse of what transpired in their back garden.

>>493022
KEK I was wondering the same, just casually out in the yard one day and you happen to catch a glimpse of this….
scarred for life.

What is this pose.

>>493026
"I farted and the wind is blowing in your direction, but it's cute because I am cute."

So much edge!

>>493019

Then there's this.

More fine fan art from DeviantArt.

>>493028
>>493029
>>493030

Why are you posting old pics of Cravey? This happens every time a certain person is brought up, said certain person was just crowing about how uggo Raven is on another site. We already know she’s a fat tart, maybe lay off the pics because I’m starting to tinfoil that you’re Gir.

>>492967
She cast a spell of fat fake blood love on Josh, how cute! Raven is the only cow I’ve ever seen continually posting pics that make her look terrible, accentuating all the bad things about her face and body. It’s kind of weird, really.

HD all of U!! HER EX ~FORCED~ her to take all of these pictures, and you are all contributing to her massive ongoing trauma and PTSD by posting them, when she has tried so hard to put all of that behind her!!!

>>493032
don't you think anon is entitled to their ego trip, though? pass the tinfoil, btw.

>>493033
as someone said on the other farms, she looks like a jumbo used tampon in that shot. lucky guy, that Josh. and yeah, how the fuck does she manage to look so awful every time? I mean, above and beyond what would be expected in her case.

>>493032

>This happens every time

Check the last thread again, anon. Gir was discussed on only two occasions, and neither was immediately followed by a series of old pics. I did post the murdershannon link, but that was five days after the second mention of Gir.

I posted the screencaps in this thread of Gir's posts on KF. I was sceptical of Gir from the beginning and repeatedly called her out while other anons were giving her the asspats she was thirsty for. The enemy of our enemy is not always our friend.

While these are old pics, they have never been posted in any of the threads iirc, and they do not appear on any of her accounts.

Every time I think I have found everything there is to find, I combine her name and handles in a different order and find another treasure trove of embarrassment from Raven's past.

>>493036

This. Posting our finds is a nice reminder to her that the internet never forgets. Even if she withdraws from posting, we will always be able to find more fodder for keks.

>>493033
>>493041
Can you imagine the quality of person who actually seeks out her photos for the purpose of fapping? Barf. And Gravy wonders why she gets so many dick pics sent her way.

>>493024
I've been following the Gravy Train for awhile, and I'm still in awe of her perfectly sculpted cankles.

>>493056
I always appreciate old/never before seen Gravy milk, anon. Thank you for your service.

>>493026
That's clearly a pt "im poopin"

>>493029
What is up with that fat, misshapen paw… It's like play-doh.

>>493073
I actually can't imagine anyone doing that? unless you have a fetish for moby dick going goth / surprise lumpiness / refrigerators, she has nothing to offer that you can't get in much better quality elsewhere. I just assume she gets dick pics sent to her because guys think if she's that fat and ugly and still flashing her pancakes around, she must be pretty damn desperate.

>>492812
>>492963
>>492979
>>493032

Gir got the smackdown from Null.

>>493234
kind of hate seeing null being reasonable and shit, ruins his cowish image. good on him.

I always had the sense Gir shifted to third person because she originally got a warm welcome at the farms and ego-tripped her way into both their bad books and ours. She wanted to continue to gloat about her ~epic trollz~ but distance herself from the cringe. GG Gir.

saged in spirit.

>>493234
Btw if anyone reading here hasn't yet seen, we have new KF General thread >>>/snow/525536 where Gir is one of the users being discussed.

Gir hung herself on KF, and she better hope some of the others don't smell the blood in the water - at least its a small, tight thread.

But she was warned on here. Taking that as a hint would've been the smart idea, not just taking her schtick to another forum.

What does TLTWMTL stand for?

>>493478
The Love That Was More Than Love. Meanwhile, wedding #5 and an abandoned child bride.

>>493481
I remain unconvinced that these two will make it to the wedding stage. unless you're just putting out a wedding to any random, in which case, I concur.

>>493489
Well, she's def in the planning stages at least… she was looking at horse drawn carriages the other day and wants to make the Special Day on her birthday in September. (Horse drawn carriage… FFS.)

Speculation: given that she and the rest of the Bradleys no longer seem to be in communication (I wonder why), I would venture to say that Mama Bradley may put her matriarchal foot down soon. Which, if she does, will be epic.

>>493478

The phrase is from Annabel Lee by Edgar Allan Poe and has become a well worn cliche. Raven uses it as the opening for her videos about Josh and their luuurv.

The title of this thread also mocks her penchant for Poe quotes.

>>493490
Distinguish between planning and fantasising - swampy is not known for her connection to reality lol. And 6 months is a very long time, especially cooped up together and under a lot of stress.
Still wondering what made the family go from omg basically me to who?

>>493550
The thread title is a fucking classic in my opinion, well done OP

>>493490

She has changed the theme from blue and black to blue and white.

Her wedding to Ryan was as close to classy as she will ever be.

>>493565

Will she be able to outdo the horror of her last dress? Will she make Josh wear a top hat, too?

Logan's suit was like a Project Runway reject.

>>493564
so the translation of this is pretty much

>don't wanna spend any money on this apart from clothes
>no-one to invite so randoms welcome
>going to video it for (basically) Ryan
>low-key because again, money and effort
>focus on me and my handbag

sounds great. very jealous.

>>493579
Iirc Logan was wearing black butler cosplay which is even worse.

>>493586
That is indeed worse, and he looks like a git. Even more than Raven does, which is saying a lot.

>>493490
Really looking forward to the resurfacing of Josh's family. I thought for a second maybe Gravy and Couch moved in with some of his family, because she never specifically said they were living in their own place. But I assume if she were living with a relative she'd either A. be crowing about how they luv her so much or B. be shitting on them for not kissing her ass.

But since we haven't heard either way, I assume she had a falling out with one or more of his family members kek.


>>493586
omg no way. That is priceless. Can't wait for her 6th(?) big day!


Ps. if D or Lovely GF are still lurking, I hope you all are doing well!

>>493564
It's no surprise the amount of weddings she's gone through. I'll spare the armchair and see her as an attention-starved whore of a person. Weddings are probably the height of her life. Focused on her, the bride, with presents, which she lives for. It gives her an excuse to dress up and demand attention. She probably got to entangled with Josh because he was quick to propose and her escape to Junk Food USA. I can't wait to see what her bumfuck wedding looks like. Her weight gain will be the cherry on top.

And before anyone says she'll get that far, seeing what an ultimate cuck Josh is, she will. Even working himself to death (since he didn't work for years), he would bring home a trinket or some other garbage to placate. He seems to know exactly what she's about.

>>493592
As if he was allowed to choose his own clothing, please.

>>493603
except that he's really not? Ryan is an ultimate cuck, and so was (is?) Logan. Couchie has resisted getting a tattoo, still tries to correct her / tell the truth, and sounds like he's putting very little effort into trying to get a job. He also claimed he was going to whiteknight the fuck out of her and hasn't done jackshit. and of course he brought shit home to placate her, she would've been on his case about it constantly; why would he make things harder than they already are?

This is before we factor in that fatso herself has likely been interviewing his replacements since she found out he doesn't own a house, or how Josh lashed out at Claudia. I reckon gran has a backhander coming, and it's going to be hilarious.

at this point, who knows. she's probably still bent on marrying him to prove something to us kek

>>493673
If Josh stays near his fam he'll retain a trace of independence. This will be why she's instinctively driven to try and get him to El Paso.

S I hopped on to socialblade and decided to check her stats, since she so kindly made her sub nuber not private anymore. What do you guys think?

>>493799
she said shes not making any money from youtube so shes not uploading anymore. which is bull shit really if they are desperate for money then making more vids will earn her more. shes even too lazy to sit in her house and make videos

>>493812
She's too lazy to make videos. Plus, the stress of bills and sitting around being a greasy fuck with Josh doesn't incite the most powerful of content. …actually, thinking about it, it's probably because they're so fucked that she's not producing "content" and not the living situation. Raven would post a 1 hour video complaining about the lack of slim jims after she mulled down those two giant food stamped funded boxes. I bet she's just living in such shit she doesn't want to give us any ammo. I mean can you guess how bad the house stinks with those two there all day with nothing to do but fall for get rich quick internet scams?

>>493843

She can't make new videos or take photos because she is waiting for her new free selfie stick, remember?

Seriously WTF though, so many of her viewers were looking forward to seeing them take on the bf and gf challenges, as mundane as they now are. How can she even walk after shooting herself in the foot so many times?

The cemetary scene dress went unclaimed in the giveaway, so I guess it's going in the trash despite one of her fans saying that she would love to get it in the comments of the first video. Way to be a bitch, Raven.

Another patron down.

>>493968
well, Josh is now unemployed, so not surprised he had to drop out. (assuming the last two are Raven and Ryan)

gran giving a lecture on decency and respect, because who better to do that …
(an old bag who fetishizes death is completely different)

>>493986
Said the one who told a cancer survivor to kill herself.

Some one states their opinion on shaved eyebrows, raven takes it personally even though there is no evidence its about her in the slightest

2/3

3/3

>>494063
Lol. She draws them on because long ago she fucked them up by regularly shaving them trying to be a cholo Latina gangster girl. Once you shave your eyebrows for awhile you fuck them up.

She basically tries to recreate her face with make-up and drawn on eyebrows ala Bozo the clown does.

>>494061
Raven has got to be retarded. This person doesn’t mention her or anything about it being a goth’s eyebrow preference. Lmao

>>494063
“Where they need to be?” So she thinks her eyebrows naturally look like the Golden Arches…?

>>494061
>I'm so sick of seeing people judging others, trash talking, blind hatred

I am lost for words.

>>494061
i love how she tags couchie in there so he knows to come riding in on his junked-out jeep to defend his fair lady's honor. LOL

>>494096
i miss the sage button for stupid comments like im about to give, but shaving doesnt hurt your eyebrow growth. its plucking, waxing, or anything that can damage the hair folicle.

Photoshop?

>>494261
Nah, Couchie naturally has the skin of a 15yo. It's all that time on the couch.

>>494308

What Raven can't live without is Photoshop.

>>494419
If you could not detect that sarcasm I don't know what to tell you.

>>494261
I thought Logan was a one-off, but here she is shopping Couchie to look as young as possible … I didn't think this bitch could get any more disturbing, but here we are.

>>494464
she didn't have to shop L to make him look young… she groomed him from the age of 15

>>494477
not what I meant; I thought he was one-off in the sense that her previous boyfriends / husbands were adults where he was a kid.

>>494464
>>494477
To be fair there were a few photoshopped photos of Logan that made him look like her idea of some weird goth boy deity. For some reason Raven would try to shop his eyebrows into a strange blurred mess.

>>494520
It almost seems like she’s shopping El-Coucho to look like her previous child bride huh
Girl has too many goff fantasies.

Sweetie. You’re not 21 anymore.
You wasted that time

It seems Josh is getting pretty desperate for a job and is using Facebook to get a job! Lol. Imagine poor Josh having Raven ragging on him about a job while she is chomping her “family size” slim Jim and binge-watching the same teen shows again and again (just with a different hubby each time)!?! Walmart has fresh plushie’s in for Easter and of course Raven needs those bunny and chick plushie’s.

>>494652
“On the spot” I.e I can’t even wait a week or two for applications or interviews, we are going to have our power cut off this week and goffix granny is almost out of slim jims

Next up Raven runs out of slim Jim’s, finds out crop pickers get paid cash at end of the day and forces Josh to join a illegal
immigrant work crew.

I’m guessing momma couch isn’t feeling to generous towards the love birds and that Xmas tree and the last bit of money she was going to waste on the tattooed sumo wrestler leeching off of her son. It’s only to bad because having Raven move to the couch at moms is a chapter we’ve all been waiting for in the LTWGTL saga

>>494652
Wow. Well at least he is trying. Raven should be cranking out you tube videos to try and grab and money she can instead of sitting on her flabby, tattooed butt.

Will she start stalking local Facebook pages that do cheap/free wedding supplies like she did with her ceremony to Logan? I bet they won’t be postponing it.

>>494686
She's bringing in $10/mo on Patreon, she's working as hard as she can!

>>494652
Walmart is always hiring, just may not be ideal pay wise, buuuuut they would have a discount card and get a percentage off her dumb fucking plushies and slim Jim's.

>>494720
It's weird when someone's life is so bad that you can say if they got a job at Walmart they'd be living significantly better lives. Even if josh did full-time and Gravy just part-time. For one, if they both worked, even in a minimum wage job, they'd have a liveable income. And obviously, they'd have less time to spend any money they earned as they would be working. They could make a few friends there, or if Raven's toxicity is too damaging for people to stay close to her for extended periods of time, at least they'd be getting some kind of social interaction outside of each other and the internet. And like anon mentioned, discounts and vouchers off of Walmart goods which would be a financially savvy decision considering how much they spend there.

If they had regular hours, they'd finally have normal sleeping patterns instead of sitting on the blow-up bed watching Supernatural until sunrise. That might cause them to have more regular meal times too, instead of eating industrial sized packs of slimjims.

>>494720
I mean Walmart/ Target both pay a flat $11-$12 an hour just for cashiering, I'm sure its a downgrade from Fedex but there are options out there. Begging on Facebook isn't one of them.

>>494720
walmart's always hiring because they purge their workers so often. i wouldn't really recommend it but it seems the best they can do since they literally hire anyone.

She posted a new dog on insta. No mention of where the other animals are.

>>494743
Here is one of the pics. I bet she got the dog after looking at old pics of her cats.

>>494743

>we eat in bed

kek

What happened to, "We were just forced out of our house and our new landlord says no pets"?

>>494745
>>492960

Did they indeed move? Their shack did not have wood panelling nor that flooring.

>>494743
> I wrote him to tell him that we had a new dog, and sent photos.
So she took the dog in on impulse and didn't even ask Josh first? Nice.

>>494652
>>494748
That could be a pic from the person they got the dog from, I doubt Raven has a crate which I see in the corner of this photo. If she got the crate with a dog she’ll be trying to sell it on FB soon.

So no mention of the little rat dog she gave Josh, not the cats. Raven such a selfish bitch, she goes thru pets like tissues.

>>494791
Yeah but you can see the shitty red carpet, just saying

She's nothing but a filthy whore. I legit hate her

>>494835
>Josh's dogs 'disappear' after a few weeks
>little dog 'stolen'
>cats 'rehomed'

why do I feel like Gran has a little pet cemetery going somewhere nearby

I am so god damn triggered. I could write the most epic sonnet about the marbled pussy crust that flakes into every crevice of the things she touches, but I'm so god damn triggered. What can I do other than read the posts and know that every anon who sees the pet replacement and Josh's compliance feels the same.

>>494835

Unless they have moved twice, her explanation contradicts what she said in her ad to rehome the cats last month.

>>494652

Can we safely infer that they moved to Aiken?

Aiken is 35 miles south of Saluda and is an actual city as opposed to the single stoplight town that is Saluda. It is 20 miles from Augusta, Georgia. It prides itself as a tourist destination and is known as a locus of the horsey set (polo, steeplechase, and other equine sports).

>>494745
Their shack also had red carpet but the kitchen floor looked different >>466581 and there was no wood paneling on the walls.

Poor dog, I feel for you little fella.

>>494853
Indeed. The nutter wrote in the ad that the landlord doesn't allow pets. Wouldn't make much sense anyway if he allowed dogs but not cats. If the little mut was indeed stolen, it probably went to a better home anyway. Won't take long before the new one disappears as well.

>>496027

In her ad she said, "We were just forced out of our house and our new landlord says no pets." That was right after Valentine's Day.

Now she claims that it was her previous landlord who made them get rid of the cats and that they moved "about a month later."

Three dogs missing, plus the vanishing of the stray ones.
She was also 'forced' """"to rehome""" two cats.
All that in what? 4 months?

>>496120

Less than that. Read the OP.

>>494063
Even with those eyebrows tattooed on she still can't draw them for shit

Interesting how she didn't ask for the cats back (if possible, not demand but you know, ask nicely since you LOVE THEM SEEEW MUCH) but instead just got a new dog.

Raven is with husbands the same she is with pets. When it's all new and shiny it's amazing but as soon as some time passes she's over them and wants something new. Pathetic.

>>496266
She has this serious all or nothing complex going on. Her new husband/boy toy is the most perfect best amazing thing ever until suddenly he is the devil incarnate.
The same goes for her pets - they are sooo cute and beautiful and they love her sooo much. Then they do one thing she doesn't like (and any pet owner will tell you that you'd better get used to that) and she can't cope with it and thinks they are the worst thing ever.

people like raven shouldn't have pets or partners until they get mental health help. she is a dangerous person, especially to the animals who can't defend themselves or tell anyone what's happening.

it is very concerning that she's gone through so many pets since moving to the US. in NZ she did it too, but much slower. it would be a new dog or cat every 3 months or so.

Who the fuck would STEAL a dog? It's not like it was an expensive purebred and someone wanted to make bank on it.
It probably just ran away from their yard.
I love how she plain and simple said it was stolen. Like she knows for a fact. No way that it was their mistake that the dog is gone, right?

>>496288

The way she described Azzy's behavior, I doubt she would have run away. And the weather was too cold to leave a small dog outside unattended.

If Josh believes her story that it was stolen, how is he not upset or angry that Azzy was alone in the yard unattended and in the cold, long enough to be stolen or to run away?

>>496290
>If Josh believes her story that it was stolen, how is he not upset or angry that Azzy was alone in the yard unattended and in the cold, long enough to be stolen or to run away?

Josh is dumb as a box of rocks, I mean that is not even in question at this point. Look at his actions to date. What I take issue with him is why he is not asking Raven a lot of questions. About THINGS. I hope he is taking a good hard look at the trajectory of his life since he abetted importing Ursula back into the US.

I hope in my heart of hearts that some good person spotted Azzy in their yard and thought it was an abandoned dog (an understandable mistake) and took her home.

Maybe Azzy is living in the lap of luxury on a velvet cushion in a clean living space and is being pampered ;___;

Her exes knew giving her animals was irresponsible

>>496366
lol @ this trash heap insisting she lurrrrves her pets so much

how long until this abused dog gets kicked to the curb like all the rest? josh, you are in line for the same treatment logan’s getting rn, run while you can

>>496366
>Logan is TURNING out not to be so perfect.

Wasn't that why you cheated on him/publicy denounced your marriage then divorced him ravey? Trouble in couchville hmm?

>>496364
>>496366
1) No you don't deserve animals, Raven. You're moving around like a retard and unstable. That's YOUR FAULT. You go into situations where you can't have pets and are "forced" to get rid of them. I've had to stay in shitty situations to keep my pets. That's what you do. You don't fucking have them for two months or get to choose your "favorite" you sociopath. Plus you make sure to have stability BEFORE getting a pet. You don't just hoard more than one animal. Getting a pet is a huge life decision. I didn't move to another country because I got a dog. <blog omitted> That's how it is when you say you value you pets.
2) This cow expected to ship her pet overseas who couldn't afford the expense and would put the cat through major stress, possibility to death (flying cargo is hard on animals), and a possible quarantine that lasts weeks. She's rather put her animal through that than let someone else give her a good home.
3) Fuck the other fat cow agreeing with Raven. Not the animals fault you're too much of an idiot to be able to keep your own pet.
4) Looks like Logan's separation from Raven is giving him balls, i.e. not being so perfect, eh? Maybe his balls finally dropped since he was so young when she robbed the cradle. Good for him. Grooming apparently can wear off. If Raven doesn't think you're perfect than you might be a good human being. I'm glad that he wouldn't have sent Raven that poor cat. He's smart enough to know the dangers of shipping your animal overseas. Did she leave him because she saw signs of him being too independent and becoming intelligent?

>>496364
I like that she left out the time her ex "stole" her ferret, she didn't go looking for it, and it was left to die trapped in a truck for days.
Guess that doesn't look as good as horrible ex-husbands keeping her "babies" away from her, huh?

>>496364
>>496366

She talks as if animals were mere objects. What a fucking psycopath.

>>496386
yeah, what kind of a bastard wouldn't want to front up the big $ to ship a fucking cat to their ex on the other side of the world (when she can't even afford rent, etc) /s

I disagree about Logan growing balls. As noted in a recent screenshot, she still touches up his bank account, and the obvious one: he's still talking to her. she not only dragged and humiliated him throughout the relationship, then cheated on him, but continued to shit on him after that. I was so hopeful that his nasty attitude in their last couple of videos was an indication he'd take her leaving the country as a green light to fuck her right off, but no. Still cucked.
And no, she left him because she had been desperate to get back to the US for ages, and he wasn't going to make that happen. that's why she settled for the bag of rocks she is with - he's in the US, and that was all she cared about. Can always dump him and move on later, right?

I don't understand this bitch. She just got rid of TWO cats because she wasn't able to keep them. Why does she think it would be smart to have Marmelade? Logan probably has half a brain and it thinking of those things. Also she wasn't a young cat and flying from NZ to US would be extremely stressful.

I think this whole status was just to make a not so subtle hit at Logan. Maybe he's moving on so Raven is going crazy? ;)

Lol which one of y’all popped off??

These were all in order btw, I think she just stupidly cropped a few of the blue ones

>>496575
'someone stole a chihuahua from my yard'
nice way of showing how much you did not fucking cared for that poor dog. RIP Azzy.

>>496574

Pet insurance? That wasn't even Josh's dog. It was yet another stray that wandered into the yard at his mom's house.

Why do anons keep sperging about the stray dogs being uncared for? Strays are endemic in rural counties. As discussed in the last thread, Saluda County doesn't have any shelters. It doesn't even have a department of animal control. The strays are lucky to have been getting fed by Josh and his family.

I highly doubt she got an anon comment. I think she's lashing out on farms in this way, at this point the smallest bits of attention she gets is from us, because everybody got bored of her and most of her 'boy-slug-fans' aren't interested in her anymore (thanks, couchie). knowing her need to have more attention than a child, the only place she knows she can get it is on farms. Nice job craven. Not doing yourself any favors.

>>496644
I agreee. Hi Raven. Maybe you need to stop reading what we write about you since it upsets you so much. None of us like you and that isn’t going to change. How does couchie’s family feel?

Eww maybe now she will post about how much mommy couch loves her and thinks she is the best thing ever for her boy.

>>496644
Yeah, I am assuming that she is inferring the anon comment was on Instagram - can you even send anon comments on IG or does she mean someone made a throwaway to leave the comment?

>>496577
Why does she think none of us are loved or know happiness? Does she seriously think anyone would be jealous of her or want to steal Couchie away from her? This shit show is just trashy reality tv for us. No one wants Couchie, his blow up mattress, her flabby arse or their cardboard love shack.

>>496644

But pet insurance has never been brought up in the context of the dog that was shot.

Could the blue pics be screenshots of a post she made on Facebook, hence the bad cropping?

When will she understand that we don't care about her? She's just a laughing stock at this point. Living happy and feeling loved? Right up her ass. Her American dream is srcrewing her over. Now she's broke af, has almost no friends (wait until the only friend she has left rapes her), no more CRyan to pay for her tattoos, a broken down car beside a ratty cat-piss-drenched trailer and all the pets that get ''stolen''. What a glory for her it has to be and old saggy goff bag of tits and shitty tattoos and have a life achievement of being a pathetic cow for the farms. Good fucking job. Nailed it. You're happy. Got it.

on the plus side, that new dog is safe from her. on the other: top kek at her sperging about anons speculating that she killed the dog. BITCH YOU LITERALLY HAVE A VIDEO SERIES OF YOUR LIFE WHERE YOU HAVE ADMITTED TO KILLING ANIMALS IN THE PAST.

>>496659
There's a reason why Josh is so pussy starved. He's a fucking loser. No one wants him Diana. He's a hillbilly with no prospects and turned zombie overnight. Maybe he's "beautiful" to you when you spend an hour photoshopping the bags under his eyes or smoothing out his skin so he can look like your 19 year old ex. You're both going to be welfare losers in the South. Even the slob women anons have a happier life than you, Diana. Keep filling the void that's supposed to be your soul with garbage that's made in China. Wait, you can't even do that because your pathetic boyfriend can't find a job after fucking up when he lucked out with FedEx.

I think she's mostly angry that anons thought it was funny that Logan stood up to her. Soon he'll be locking her out of his bank account. Baby steps to recover from grooming.

Whelp. She must be off the drugs cuz she's back to being pissed

Hooktube link provided below (youtubelink for image in thread):

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=DfAuifbl4Dg

>>496776
A million excuses for her god damn irresponsibility. She does admit that she gets irritated and intolerant of animals.

>>496776
-Got sheets for MOST of her pillows!

- Blames Logan for most of their pets being re homed in NZ

- Admits that she left Azzy alone in the yard and couldn't find her when she came back (12:36).

- Thinks Azzy was stolen from her front lawn after she left. Her reasoning behind this is that SHE AND JOSH DRIVE AROUND AND "JOKE" ABOUT STEALING OTHER PEOPLE'S DOGS THEY SEE/LIKE, therefore it's totally normal that someone else would too, thus Azzy's 'mysterious' disappearance (14:40).

Like, wtf Raven?? I've never, ever seen a dog and thought "I'mma steal it". How is that a more likely scenario than the dog just running away or getting eating by something (you yourself said you lived in a secluded area)?

And if she really believes that someone stole Azzy from her, wouldn't she be all over the internet complaining about it? What was that, a month or more ago? Sure Jan.


- Believes that training/walking hyper active dogs is "unfair" to the animal, because "you can't break them 100% of however they're ingrained to be. It's just not right" (22:46)

And for those of you who would tell her to just get off her fatass and take care of her pet, she says: "that is what I believe, and nobody's going to change my mind" lol

I just fucking can't anymore. There's a storm raging outside and I have my beautiful golden lab cuddled up in my lap. I see Ravey's gone nuclear on Instagram, good work to whoever managed that, my one comfort is knowing my fellow farmers have the same concers and care I do for animals. I wish we could still sage here, this one needs it I know, but fuuuuck. I don't know if I can stay on granny goff's wild ride now her latest "toy" is a goldador. The crash that was more than a crash should have been worse. I can laugh at her fucking her own pathetic excuse of a life up but not the countless steam of animals she has incoming AND mysteriously "outgoing". Fuck you Cravey, why can't you go back to collecting shit that doesn't breath?

>>496776
waiting for transcript anon. no way am i going to watch this hag REEEEEEEE about animals without punching a hole through my monitor in rage

Already making excuses for a dog she hasn’t even got yet, I’ve honestly never hated anyone more.

How does she honestly think people don’t see through her shit…

Ps you’re so fat Raven haha

>>496824
her stans are pretty exceptional people.

pinched this from Gir on kiwifarms. this is the comment that got Gravy so riled up.

>>496828
A very reasonable comment. Raven went batshit crazy. Seems about right.

>>496776
She is getting fatter by video. She looks like a 60yo filipino bbw drag queen at this point.

>>496828
so gir has gotten a little smarter about her trolling? good for her, I guess.

>>496832
>She looks like a 60yo filipino bbw drag queen at this point.

accurate.

>>496834
all those slim jims are taking their toll on Gravy. I always laugh that she has a shooped thumbnail that has nothing to do with the video.

She felt the need to make this video because she is afraid of the fallout she had in NZ.

She abuses animals, and anyone anyone who gives her one is just as bad. I volunteer for a shelter as an adoption coordinator and we wouldn't give her an animal. A key question involves if you can have a pet and if we can contact your landlord.

She treats pets like everyone else in her life. Expendable. She needs her ego fed.

Side talk … her tats seem so faded and stretched… it's a special sort of terrible

>>496776

My pets and me

Published on Mar 23, 2018

Alright, guys. Here I am with yet another video that I shouldn't have to make. But because people want to be douches, I'm gonna make it anyway. Excuse the way I look. I have been really sick. I've got a nasty chest infection again, and I'm just feeling really under the weather. So I don't know. But this is a video that it's best if I'm seen, I guess, while I'm explaining it, so it's better than just typing it out, so that's why I'm making this.

Some douche pussy bitch made a fake account yesterday, followed me on my Instagram just to talk shit to me and threaten me with the police. So um…I'm gurgling, excuse me. So what happened was this chickenshit douche made an account and said that they were very concerned because I seem to go through animals very quickly, and if something happens to this dog that they are gonna call the police. And I say, please do, go right ahead, because that dog's not here already. We got the dog because the family was moving. It's a family: mother, father, kids, other cats, other dogs. They're the ones actually that we got the little tabby cat from. And they were very attached to this dog. They loved this dog to death, did not want to rehome him. We had him for a couple of days. Kids were not coping, so she took the dog back. She came yesterday. And I was in the shower so Josh met with them and gave the dog back to them. It was sad, but it was their right to have the dog back because it was their dog. We're not gonna say no and then cause a big fuckin' ruckus over it.

Also because there is another dog that had badly needed a home. He was…or he is an 11 year old pitbull who is completely blind. And this is a really sad story because the owners have had him for a long time. They love him, but they're moving, and that breed is not welcome, and this dog is not welcome. And if he goes to a shelter he won't make it, you know. He's too old, he's blind, he would not have a very nice end to his life. And so I was contacted by this woman that rescues dogs, and she had asked me if I'd be willing to take him. And Josh of course jumped to it because he loves all fucking animals.

Now, as far as the accusations go about how quickly I rehome animals, let me explain this to you guys. I don't just willy-nilly get an animal and then try to flip it or resell it. I get every animal with the intention that they're gonna be here for the rest of their lives. But an animal is not always a good fit for your family, and I believe in doing what is best for them, believe it or not. I might have a weird way of going about it, but that is my ultimate intention.

Not every animal is suited for every family. Now, you can train an animal, you can teach them what not to do, what they should do, what the into you et cetera et cetera. But sometimes an animal is just a certain way, and in order to stop them from being that way it would take a lot of work, a lot of training, disciplining or whatever, and it won't be a very nice time to break an animal of the way that they might naturally be. And I don't really find that fair to the animals, so I would rather find it at home that it can just be itself rather than being miserable with, like me who doesn't tolerate certain things, if that makes any sense.

Like for instance, I had a cat named Winter in New Zealand with Logan. And Winter always escaped. There are no screens on the windows and doors over there and no central heat and air so it gets really hot. We did what we could to protect the windows, to stop the cats from jumping out but not suffocate. And Winter always managed to go outside. Not only would he go outside, but he'd run straight down the driveway to the road. And we knew inevitably he would be run over, so what was safest for him was to rehome him to somebody that had, like, a big yard where he could run around and be outside because he obviously was not happy being inside. I guess the people we got him from had had him outside, and that's what he was used to. We couldn't break it, and if we kept trying either we'd be suffering because it was so fucking hot, or he'd end up roadkill. So for his own good we sent him off to a family who had the space that he needed outside. That's the kind of shit that we do or that we have done. And other times it's just been misfortune [she fusses with her hair] ugh, my hair looks really fucked, I'm sorry…misfortune or mis, mismatched, whatever.

So I'll go down the list of the ones that you guys would know about. So there was Winter. There was that fucking dog and cat that we took in that attacked my Marmalade for no reason at all, bit Logan, bit Dorian, and almost bit me. That dog was not a match for our home. It was a vicious little thing that had not been trained. I did not want to risk Mr. Marshmallow or Marmalade for this attacky dog, and so I instantly went to the owners and asked the owners if they wanted the dog back. They said no, and so I went to rehome it. And then the big…police were called. They set up somebody to steal the dog from us, came to us threatening us at three o'clock in morning. It was a big fucking mess. But that dog was not worth risking my current family for, you know, the the pet family that I had. I'm not gonna bring in a stray or a strange dog, rsee that this dog has jumped off my lap, run across the room and attacked my cat for no reason at all. What if she…what if that dog had killed my cat? I don't think so. And then the fact that she bit Logan and she bit Dorian and she almost bit me for no reason at all. That dog was in bad need of some help, and I just…I did not want to risk Marmalade for anything, so dog had to go.

Mr. Marshmallow I rehomed because I…me and Logan were gonna move to America. And if you guys remember, Mr. Marshmallow, he had neuralo…neuralo…oh my god, neurological problems and, you know, his head would shake around. He did not cope very well with a lot of shit, and I did not want to put that cat through like a 30-something hour flight into another country. I didn't think it was fair on him, so we found him a home where he could stay in New Zealand.

Marmalade had kittens. The kittens were spoken for before she even, even gave birth and so you know, I never saw her go into heat, never even saw that whole thing happening. I knew, of course, you send an uncut cat outside there's a chance she's gonna get pregnant. But I thought she was too young and not in heat, you know. A bit naive, but I didn't really mind either because I kind of wanted to experience that with Logan because he had never experienced it, and we had planned to keep some of her kittens. None of that worked out because we knew our relationship was falling apart. We tried to save it in various ways, but we had our reasons behind it. They all found good homes, and in fact the very first kitten went to his mom who she still has him.

Um, Marmalade herself was supposed to come over here with me. She was my baby. She was the one I loved most in the world. And she was hit by a truck. Again, for the people that keep liking to throw blame around, she wasn't just taken to Logan's mom's house and thrown outside. She escaped. She would not let herself be caught. He had tried to catch her. He was not able to catch her. She was put inside. We weren't just moving her and leaving her outside in a strange area. That's irresponsible and stupid. She tried to follow him to work, and it happened, shit happened, you know. It should have never happened, but it did happen, and it fucking sucks. And I miss her every day. I will never find another cat like her. She was my baby. I loved, loved, and loved her to death.

There are other cats that we had had that Logan just did not want. And I know you guys like to blame me for everything, but you know, there were two people in that relationship like I keep saying. There were cats he did not want. And there was this one white Persian that we had gotten that looked like Mr. Marshmallow, but he was normal. And he was skittish. He'd hide in boxes. And I kept telling Logan, give him time, give him time, you know. You have to go in there and give him love, and he'll learn to trust you. You can't just expect him to come out and play right away. And Logan was too fed up. He's like, I fucking hate that cat, I don't want him here, fuck this shit. And I held on for three weeks. I tried and tried, but he would not back down. And so I had to find him another home.

We had other cats. A lot of the cats we had for some reason had an issue of pissing and shitting in the house. They'd shit on everything. We had multiple litter boxes, always clean in separate rooms. We followed all the rules. We did everything we could. They go in the litter box but they'd also shit on our clothes, on our beds, on our blankets, on the floor, in our shoes, everywhere, everywhere. And Logan was like, nope, I don't fucking want these cats here, throw them outside. And he tried to get me to throw these, these two young kittens outside in the middle of winter. And I said, no, you know what, I'll just fucking rehome them. Give me time to put, put an ad out for them and find them other homes. And so I did.

We had rats. The rats were fine. But as soon as we had moved into this house they somehow…like, we had the cage away from the fucking curtain, but they were able to reach the curtain still which it looked like it was way too far for them to reach through and grab because I know rats do that. But somehow they grabbed the new curtain, and they'd chewed it to shreds. The landlord saw that and said get the fuck…they didn't say fuck, but they told us we need to get rid of the rats. We had no choice. So we had to get rid of the rats as well.

Here, Josh had a dog. The dog was shot with an arrow, and he died. Josh did not take him to the vet. He was not able to. I wasn't here. I don't know the full story behind why he couldn't. I do know that the vet was well over two, three hours away, and he had to work the next day. Nobody else wanted to take him, and they kind of knew that the dog would die anyway because he had an arrow through his chest. I know Josh wanted to take him to the vet. I don't really know, but it damn sure wasn't because he didn't have pet insurance. Pet insurance had nothing to do with it. He was working. He loves his animals. He loves animals more than I ever could, and I love animals. But next to Josh it's like I'm an animal hater. I might as well be because he loves anything on four legs. He doesn't care who it is or what it is, if they bite him, if they attack, it doesn't matter. He just…he is so full of love. And he would have had a really good reason for not taking that dog to the vet that night.

In his house or in his yard where he was living dogs were just wander in. I've seen it happen myself when I was living with him at our old place. Dogs just wander in. We'd feed them, he'd feed them, they'd hang around, and they'd leave. He had the one that got shot, a black bigger one, a smaller black one, a female dog who came over and had puppies, and a, like, pitbull mix. Those all wandered into his yard and decided to stay there. We took the black dog and the little black dog with us which are in one of my other videos. Took care of them, fed them. They had been around him for almost a year. And one day they just wandered off again and they left. Right now his mom has all the other dogs. I mean, the little one got shot and died. But um, she has the bull…the bull mix…pitbull mix. She has the mama dog and her puppies.

And um…oh, and then there was a beautiful white dog that wandered and wandered and wandered out, and he would bring puppies with him, and then they'd wander in and wander out, and we'd feed them when they came around. So it happened. Shit happens, you know. They weren't our dogs to start with. They just kind of came and they stayed and then they left again. Just like they came, they probably went to somebody else. I mean, they weren't ours, you know.

The one that was my fault, that I have not talked about publicly is that little dog that I got him, Azzy, the little chihuahua mix. She was an indoor dog. We would take her outside. She, she was real skittish, real scared. I had mentioned in a post before that I thought she had been abused because she was so fucking scared. You couldn't pat her, tell her good girl. She'd just curl up in a ball and just kind of quiver and shake and then pull herself over to you or always want to be in your lap. She fit all the lists of badly abused dogs. So we were really, really, you know, gentle with her, try to, you know, always stay with her. And we were trying really hard to ease her out of that. Now, to get her go to the bathroom was really hard because she always clung right to you. You walk around the yard, she wouldn't want to go to the toilet because she felt like she always had to stay by your side. So we were trying to coax her to go, to go. And she had just wandered off to pee finally after being outside with her. My phone started ringing. I ran inside to get my phone. It was Josh. He was at lunch. I talked to him for a minute. I thought, you know, where we lived before, it wasn't in the middle of the city, it was, it was out a ways. There wasn't a lot of traffic, a lot of people. People definitely didn't walk by, and it was a pretty big yard, so I felt safe leaving her out there for, you know, five minutes. I talked to him, and I was like, oh shit, you know, I, I need to go and check on the dog. I figured she'd be by the front door because after she finished peeing, if we weren't outside with her, because that wasn't the first time she's been left outside to pee, she'd just go up the stairs and sit at the porch, at the front door, and I'd just open the door and let her in. But she wasn't there this time. I walked all over the yard calling her. She wasn't there. Josh got home. He drove up and down the road, and he looked for her for weeks until we moved, until the day we moved, actually, and she was nowhere to be found.

So the only thing I can think is that somebody drove by and took her. And that is highly believable because people steal little dogs all the time. When me and Josh are out, if we see little dogs by driveways we're like, oh my god, little dog, someone could fucking take that dog. And it's not like we haven't thought about it. We haven't done it. But we've been like, damn, you know, I'd take that fucking dog, they shouldn't leave the dog like that. So I'm pretty fucking certain somebody drove by and took her. At least she should be taken care of if they cared enough to come and take her. But it was a bullshit fucked up thing to do, and it broke his heart.

Now, the kittens. We had the two kittens. And we…where we were living, they were really really really bad landlords. We did not have a lease. They said, we don't believe in leases, we don't do leases, never have, never will. So we were kind of scared because that doesn't really give us any protection. There's no stated rules, there's nothing, there's no lease. And they told us, oh, you're not allowed to have animals in here. Like, okay what the fuck. So we had to rehome them. Luckily we found a home for them together. They went together. We've gotten updates and everything. And I even had to get rid of the brand new cat tree that I bought them.

So now, if I was going to abuse or kill these animals would I take photos and photos and photos and photos and photos and videos and photos and update the old owners and buy expensive food and toys and tree houses and everything like that for them? No. I do this stuff because they're supposed to be our family. And shit has happened, and they've had to go. It's not my fault. It's not their fault. It's just different circumstances, different situations have happened, and it's devastating, and it sucks. But in the end…like this situation, Josh was, like, pouting all night because he was so upset that this dog had to go. And I'm trying to look on the bright side and say, well, you know what, even though he's gone this now it lets us have this other dog that otherwise would die in a shelter. He's 11 years old. He's not going to live much longer, and nobody else would take him. They have been desperately, desperately looking for somebody to take him because we had actually agreed to take him before the other girl contacted us about the black dog. And um, the pitbull, in his pictures he's surrounded by dogs and cats, and so we just assumed he'd be good with other animals, and we were told later he's not good with male dogs so we weren't actually gonna be able to take him. And they couldn't find another family to take him so we kind of fucked up by doing that. But it all worked out in the end. And we have the potential to save his life now, at least give him a good life before his last days. And knowing the assholes that stalk me, we will get them and then post about him, and then he'll die of old age, and then we'll fuckin' be threatened again because the dog died, you know what I mean.

But um, I have the details and the profiles of the people who I've given our animals to. I have them on my friends list. I'm in communication with one of the main dog rescuers in this area, not even my city, but the whole of South Carolina, and they work with people and they travel and travel. They're bringing this dog from like three hours away just to give him a better home, you know. And he's supposed to be dropped off tomorrow, actually. And it's gonna be interesting because he's blind, so we're gonna have to earn his trust. But if it doesn't work out we're gonna have to give him back to her. And there is a chance that might not work out because he's blind, he doesn't know us, and he's 11 years old. If he freaks the fuck out and he's miserable and we can't, you know, calm him down and he's not adjusting, then they're gonna have to work something out and the owners are gonna have to find a way to keep him. It's either the owner or us, basically, because we don't want him going to a shelter.

And we're not evil people. We do go through pets. I guess you can say that. There are pets that come and go, come and go. But we love our pets when we get them. And regardless of what you've heard about me or what you think about me, use your fucking brain or maybe how about you ask instead of just assuming that I'm just getting an animal and then fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you and who knows, like, killing them or selling them or whatever because that is not the case. I'm not trying to make money off of animals. I did sell the dog that attacked Marmalade because that was a pure breed little dog. I forgot what fucking kind of dog it was, but that was a pure breed dog that was worth a lot of money, and she came with really expensive food that we bought her and a big old dog cage and all this shit. And, you know, even on the pet pages here they all say do not give your animals away for free. You must, or you should, ask for money because if people put money into an animal they're less likely to kill it or mistreat it. And I do see truth in that, you know. You put money into something and you kind of want to get your money's worth, you want to take care of it.

And, you know, some of you have my back, have written me supportively saying that's fucked up for people to try to say. And I thank you guys for having my back. I really shouldn't have had to make this video. I told Josh about the comment that I got last night, and he just laughed and he said, you know, it doesn't matter what that person says, we know the truth. And it is true. We do know the truth. But, you know, I am putting it out there. If any of you guys don't believe me or think you have a reason to call the cops, please, by all means. I'm not scared of the cops because I've got nothing to hide. I can give them all these people's information and be like, this is where my cats are, this is where the dog is, this is what happened with the other dog, this is the chick from the dog rescue, you want all their names and their information bla bla bla bla bla, you can have it all. They're not going to find any bodies buried in fucking yard. They're not gonna find any evidence of mistreatment or abuse or death or anything like that. So I don't know what the the point of that comment was.  But if you were genuinely worried about the animals you would have private messaged me. You wouldn't have made it a point to publicly comment trying to humiliate me or take me down a notch or whatever the fuck you were doing. But it didn't work, it's not gonna work. Like Josh says, I know the truth, he knows the truth, the people around here know the truth, and the people that have our happy and healthy animals knows the truth.

Sometimes like when you're dating around you might not find the right partner so you break up and you move on. You do what you need to do to make yourself happy which is what you should do with animals. It's very similar. If it's not a good fit for your family, if it's not the perfect house for you, you know, if it's not the perfect animal for you or the perfect household for that animal, you owe it to the animal to give him or her the family that they deserve. Because if you can't give the animal the right life…like this dog also was…we were told he was an indoor dog and he wanted to be inside all the time. He definitely was not an indoor dog. He wanted to be outside, and we've got no fence here. And Josh had let him run free, and he ran out to the road instantly. And so there was no way he'd ever have been able to run free in the yard and get the exercise that he needs. There's no dog park anywhere near us so that was not a good fit. And if I had known that I would have never accepted the dog in the first place. I had specified we need an indoor dog because we don't have a fence. We have a big yard, but we don't have a fence. And it was not fair and would not have been fair for this dog, being as hyper as he was, to not be able to run around and get his energy out. So that dog needs a fenced-in yard or somewhere he can run free and get his energy out.

You've got to be a good fit for whatever animal you get. You can't force them to live your life. You gotta, gotta meet in the middle. You train them, tell them, you know, what they are allowed to do, what they're not allowed to do, but you also have to do what's best for them. And you can't break them a hundred percent of however they're ingrained to be. It's just not right. And that is what I believe, and nobody's gonna change my mind. And it takes, it takes a while sometimes to find the kind of animal that's best suited for you. But as long as you're sure that your animals go to a good forever home and you're honest with them about how the animal is and what they need, that way they're not rehomed again and again and again, then I don't really see anything wrong with it. When we get animals usually we're lied to, like completely fucking lied to, and we end up finding ourselves with our hands full with these animals that we were told were a hundred percent different from how they actually ended up being. But when we passed those animals on we always tell the new owners exactly what problems we have, what…how we treat them, how, you know, why we're getting rid of them, what we think they need, like, if they need room to run around or lots of attention or just to be left alone, you know. You've got to inform the people as much as humanly possible so they can give the animal a good home, you know. And if only we were given that choice, but, you know, people lie. I guess they lie because otherwise they won't be able to get rid of their animals which fucking sucks because in the end it's the animal that pays for it, for them bullshitting, you know. Like, we're, like, we're not going to find out that this dog that was supposed to be trained isn't trained or this this dog that we're supposed to be calm bites, you know. I mean, it's just, it's just bullshit is what it is. And we're not bad people, and we're damn sure not animal abusers. And uh, that was bullshit. So that's my explanation. Very, very long, shorter than I thought it would be, but longer than I wanted it to be. Anyway, I guess I will see you guys around. Thanks for watching if you watched this. Take care, and I'll see you when I see you.

>>496776

For emphasis she wore the angriest shirt in her collection, stretched to transparency by her braless breasts.

>>496822

They no longer have the retriever labrador cross. The family wanted him back.

>>496824

What she said about the blind dog is reasonable. His situation is very difficult and unfortunate.

>>496828
Gir is a fucking cow who got shunned by both lolcow and kiwis for attention whoring.

jfc her cognitive dissonance is absolutely unbelievable in this video.
she has three times got pets that weren't allowed by her landlords. she obviously doesn't research pets before getting them. she said when she and josh drive around and see small dogs they think they could steal them and that the owners shouldn't leave them like that, but when raven leaves her small dog outside it's just an accident and a moment of misjudgment! other people are bad people for doing that, but for raven it's fine.

she is so impulsive, she gets new pets and new husbands on a whim and can never follow through with the commitment, then acts like its either the other person/animal's fault or no one's fault, when it is clearly her issues. no normal person has this many problems with pets. it's not bad luck. there's one common denominator, and that's raven.

how can she sit there and recount a dozen times that she has been an irresponsible animal owner and lost animals through her own irresponsibility and inability to be an adult and say none of it is her fault? she will never cease to amaze me. she's insane.

oh my god, i hate seeing this person show up. their nose is fucking disgusting. such a punch-able face, and that's without knowing the shit they do.

>>496860
This is out of hand. Bitch is straight up crazy admitting she kills animals.

Wow, congratulations, I’m officially freaked out by you.

>>496876
at least she has moved from speaking in the third person to pretending someone sent her that.

>>496860
"if you can't give the animal the right life" - like not having stable housing for yourself? very responsible to be taking in animals when they can't even pay their fucking power bills.

>Like for instance, I had a cat named Winter in New Zealand with Logan. And Winter always escaped. There are no screens on the windows and doors over there and no central heat and air so it gets really hot. We did what we could to protect the windows, to stop the cats from jumping out but not suffocate. And Winter always managed to go outside. Not only would he go outside, but he'd run straight down the driveway to the road. And we knew inevitably he would be run over, so what was safest for him was to rehome him to somebody that had, like, a big yard where he could run around and be outside because he obviously was not happy being inside. I guess the people we got him from had had him outside, and that's what he was used to. We couldn't break it, and if we kept trying either we'd be suffering because it was so fucking hot, or he'd end up roadkill. So for his own good we sent him off to a family who had the space that he needed outside. That's the kind of shit that we do or that we have done. And other times it's just been misfortune [she fusses with her hair] ugh, my hair looks really fucked, I'm sorry…misfortune or mis, mismatched, whatever.



you know, if you do the right thing and actually fucking de-sex your pets, they stop doing shit like this. JUST SAYING

>>496871
Anon you honestly just MADE MY DAY. I don't know where the goldador's going but I'm pretty confident he has a better chance there. Fuck you Ravey, the universe is giving you the fucking hint - stay the fuck away from pets!

>>496860

She left out several cats and all of her rabbits, rewrote some history, and contradicted herself within this video.

>Marmalade had kittens. The kittens were spoken for before she even, even gave birth … we had planned to keep some of her kittens. None of that worked out because we knew our relationship was falling apart.

Marmalade had her kittens on December 5 and 6, 2016. She and Logan planned to keep four out of the six and had already named them.
https://youtu.be/Mr85f-klLNU

She sold the kittens when they needed money.

Raven and Logan decided to separate in May of 2017. Until then they were planning to move to the US together.

>Mr. Marshmallow I rehomed because I…me and Logan were gonna move to America.

She rehomed him after Marmalade's kittens were sold in February 2017 and before she got Loki and Dante in April, the two cats that were shitting everywhere, whom she bought to keep Marmalade company when she seemed lonely after her kittens were sold. [pic related]

Why would she have gotten Loki and Dante if she and Logan were planning to move to the US?

The dog and cat she adopted in April 2016. The dog was intended to replace her dog Skelly which she had when she was with Ryan.
https://youtu.be/uB2lhcaJ8cU

She posted at least two videos about the dog drama.
https://youtu.be/6TMiXZax8Ns

In May 2016 a kitten named Pickles made an appearance.
https://youtu.be/ehPfQsnWVIc

In March 2016 she uploaded a video of two kittens they were planning to adopt but didn't. They were Marmalade's siblings from a later litter from the same breeder.
https://youtu.be/JBHHImiiwIE

She acquired Marmalade in December 2015 along with another kitten, Mercury (Murky).
https://youtu.be/HOjZ53E_Ybs

They got Winter in August 2015. He was a Ragdoll.
https://youtu.be/VJkaQYnhPBA

In 2013 or 2014 they got Mystery and Munchkin.
https://youtu.be/z38JlHl6674
https://youtu.be/F-wYx2-9Oq8

They got Mr. Marshmallow in July 2013.
https://youtu.be/r_Pwxh48C_w

In December 2012 they acquired Gir, a minilop.
https://youtu.be/iJzm17shNk4

In another video she and Logan are playing with three rabbits.
https://youtu.be/bjO6D12c9DQ

On her LeonbergerLoverNZ she has videos of two more rabbits.

When she was with Ryan she had two cats, Isa and Fury, who were sisters. They had litters ten days apart. One was poisoned by a neighbor and the other ran away.
https://youtu.be/SkAfklH2FpM

From one of these litters she kept Monster. She said that she had planned to keep him, but Ryan wouldn't let her.

About Skelly Raven said, "If there was one thing I'd take back if possible, it's selling him. I sold him because he was attacking the big Leonberger female- and while Leos are notorious for being gentle, one bite and he would be gone … For his own safety, my ex husband pressured me into getting rid of him."
https://youtu.be/BGEKZ5GkMEw

>>496828

Sure they did, Gir.

>>496919
I'm the anon that posted that screenshot here. I don't have a kiwi farms account, was just "citing my source"

>>494743
>>496860

>Josh found out via text that Raven had gotten a new dog. Raven didn't consult Josh in the decision.
>Josh gave the dog back to its original family while Raven was in the shower.

Hmmmmm.

And does anyone else think it's strange that this family that had "other cats, other dogs" that they were keeping would spend weeks trying to rehome this one particular dog, were planning on dropping him off at the shelter if they couldn't find a home for him, but then happily took him back from Raven and Josh after a couple of days because their kids miss him?

>>496921

I wasn't casting aspersions on you, anon. Judging by Gir's past behavior, she is likely the person who left the comment on Instagram in her thirst for acclaim on KF.

>>496919
This thirsty bitch needs to GTFO

>>496936
Thanks nonnie. I just wanted to cover my ass is all. In all honesty, the comment doesn't scream Gir to me. It seems too mature for her.

>>496916
>Raven and Logan decided to separate in May of 2017.
isn't that the retcon version Gran came out with when everyone was like, so you were cheating on Logan … I mean, the part where he got to decide anything is obviously false but the date also seems wrong.

>>496953
>nonnie

pls no

>>496955

Regardless of whether they really broke up in May or in June after she had already taken up with Josh, until she announced their break up in June she still maintained that they were planning to move to the US together.

In this video she contradicts herself. She says that she sold the kittens, which was in early February, because their relationship was failing. But her reason for rehoming Mr. M, which happened at least a few weeks after they were born if not after they were sold, was that they were moving to the US. Moving to the US would also preclude keeping the kittens.

Either way, why would they then get two new cats in April?

>>496860

>where we were living, they were really really really bad landlords … And they told us, oh, you're not allowed to have animals in here.

Which contradicts [pic related] which was posted February 16th.

>>496860
As always, OP, you're the best.

Lots of things to talk about, but she doesn't exactly make herself look better. They're just drawn out excuses for her animal abuse rather than stating intentional malicious intent rather than neglect.

I also noticed that she loves taking credit for "rehoming" pets. It's incredibly stressful for pets to be rehomed. And you don't get credit for doing that, the person who took in your neglected animal gets credit. It was very nice that the family took in both of her poor cats so they could have some stability after what they've been through.

She admits that training animals is too hard when she has no job and nothing but time. It's certainly not unfair to the animal. A lot of animals actually love being trained because they're learning and usually get a lot of treats out of the ordeal. Unlike Raven, many animals crave and need mental stimulation that includes learning new behaviors and tricks that motivate them into asking for treats or pleasing their owners.

>dating is a lot of finding the right pet for your home
No. I could argue this, but anons here aren't as stupid as Raven. No wonder she treated Dorian so bad. She thought he was a boyfriend and not a right fit for her?

>Josh was pouting.
Oh god, Josh is such a massive pussy. I know Raven thinks saying that makes him look good, but no one who has known a dog for a day (after having just experienced an influx of new pets then losing them)feels that bad for returning the dog to the family it knows and love. He doesn't have a fucking job. Does he even wonder what would happen if the animal got sick?

She essentially outs herself as being lazy and having animosity toward animals who don't know better. It's like she has a vendetta against an animal that shits in the house. She talks about it with anger but them tries to blame Logan. She never figures out that releasing these long drawn out videos usually let people document her lies?

>>496916
Thank you anon for making this.

Poor Mr. Marshmallow. He lived with her for four years and then was disposed of like a piece of trash because his shitty excuse for a human got bored of him.

You know Raven, just because you're a sociopath who can't form deeper bonds with living creatures doesn't mean other people can't. If someone confessed to me that they had thought about stealing my pet, I'd beat the ever loving sweet crap out of them. Some people actually love their pets and would be devastated if they went missing, you piece of shit. I hate you.

>>496953
Stop with the shit bait plz

With love from Kiwi Farms.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/raven-sparks.5040/page-186#post-3174058

>>496997
fucking finally lol
all hail kiwi pyrrhic and daddy dyn

>>496860
>Sometimes like when you're dating around you might not find the right partner so you break up and you move on. You do what you need to do to make yourself happy which is what you should do with animals. It's very similar.

What the fuck?! NOBODY DOES THIS SHIT WITH ANIMALS, RAVEN!! You fucking heartless evil dumbass! Pets aren’t like a pair of fucking shoes!!!

>>496988
I'm not gir ffs.

>>497087
this is what i thought as well.
that's why you research types of pets before committing to getting one, and that's why most adoption agencies will let you try out the animal in your home before taking them home for good.

i don't know anyone else who talks about pets the way raven does. she's disgusting.

>>497104
Literally no other person has this logic about animals. I also get really uncomfortable about how she talks about an animal being "cut" and "un-cut". Have never heard another person talk about animals in that way either.

>>497087
Nobody compares pets to partners furthermore, they compare them to FAMILY members! As in, irreplaceable, valuable. You can't just give up on family members because 'ah gee things aren't comfortable for me bc i made impulsive decisions bye.'
But Raven's given up on her own flesh and blood, so obviously she couldn't make that comparison without looking bad.

>>496860
Thank you so much for the transcript. She listed off so many animals omg. If she couldn't figure out what kinds of animals "fit" her home after the second or third time then she's an idiot. That's if that's not just a front to excuse her actions.

>he'll have a home to live out his final days
>11 years old


I don't know about you, but my dogs tend to live to 16 or so. Gravy seems to think she's doing a good deed by "rescuing" this poor pupper but we all know the second they run out of food or it shits on the floor, he's going to have an unfortunate accident.

>>497138
>She listed off so many animals omg. If she couldn't figure out what kinds of animals "fit" her home after the second or third time then she's an idiot.

Anyone with an iota of introspection would have looked at that list and been ashamed and embarrassed. Not Raven, though! Nothing is ever her fault or responsibility.

>>497175

The placement of that floor air duct register suggests that they are in another mobile home.

>>497180
One they aren't paying rent at because you know they're so "fucked" and can't even afford taco bell now that Couchie is out of a job

>>497175
Proof that she's not a monster! Even animal rescue screens her! The rescue probably did minimal research on a desperate case and I bet Josh is doing the brunt of the work.

>>497175
She also seems to think he's only going to last a few days which is why she opted in. If he does become difficult then it's excuses, but at least the rescue will take him back.

She went through 4 animals in less than 4 months not including Josh's roaming dogs? Whatever the reason, that number proves instability and neglect.

>>496776
I don't care what she says, I feel like she left Azzy to get lost when she said she went inside to get her phone. If she really did accidentally lose her, then she's dumb for leaving a skiddish animal unsupervised outside. But the fact that these pets 'go missing' or 'run away' all the time is suss.

Also she's blaming Logan for more and more stuff lately. What ever happened to the friendship that was more than a friendship?

>>497183

In less time than that. Cas, the first cat, was Josh's romantic gesture present for New Year's.

>>497175
This dog is gonna become a problem pretty soon. As soon as hr shows any signs of his age catching up with him (not being able to go out and do his business, not being able to control his bladder etc) he's going to mysteriously go missing or something. No way do I see Raven taking care of an old dog until his last breath. She doesn't have the heart or the patience for that. Poor dog…

>>497175
she soooo desperately wants people to think she's an amazing person for adopting an older dog. gross granny kek.

there is no way raven has the patience to care for an old pet. she can't handle them when they are cute and young. as my dog got into his last years he needed a belly band or he would pee (super common, as well as them not noticing poop), he needed to be lifted into cars/up stairs, etc. it takes love and patience and raven has neither,
i feel so bad for any animal that ends up with her. they will be neglected and treated like shit and they cast out like dirt. much like her son.

>>497263
>>497261
Not only is the dog old, but blind and now she also just told us, partially deaf. So it's going to take a long time to become comfortable and engaging with her and Josh, will probably struggle to get around the trailer without knocking Raven's mounds of tat over, may have accidents indoors or some nervous-aggressive/defensive behaviours. It's probably not going to tolerate her getting in it's face or shrieking at it. Good thing for Gravy is it'll be easier to say she lost it, it was too aggressive, or it died due to health problems.

>>496997
Kek. I'm still more accustomed to Farmer rules where you don't dox family, etc. But the other shit is pretty funny. I, at first, almost felt like I should defend Gir, but she's really turned out to be desperate for attention. She'll never be Raven level cow, but pretty obnoxious. I remember Null pointing out that she was accused of being a long time Raven troll, and one that's beyond Kiwi and Farmer standards which is pretty fucking pathetic. I understand the hilarity of getting a rise out of Raven, but she's too fucking cringy herself. I thought she would be embarrassed by Nulls call out to bother posting, but she can't help but troll Raven for attention. It's one thing to hate a cow, but another to be a cow yourself.

>>496860
The cats she claimed shit everywhere even when they had clean trays reminds me of what one of my cats does. He hates the tray to be even a little dirty so I have to be quick and vigilant. Occasionally if I sleep in on a day off from work and he gets to the tray before me, then he will poop on the bathroom bathmat. It frustrates me no end and I'll often feel pissed off but at the end of the day I just sigh, pick up his poop and wash the bathmat (or sometimes throw them out)
Yes his toilet habits are bad. But I fucking love that cat and would never dream in a million years of getting rid of him.
She's such a selfish toxic person. Animals are just playthings and accessories until they annoy her or inconvenience her.
Also another common thing that cats will do is pee or shit on piles of clothes. They usually only do this to act out in unhappiness or (like in my cat's case) there is poo in the tray. So I think she's lying about keeping the tray clean and following all the rules as she says.

Anyone else get the vibe that she starts getting pets to fill a void in her relationships? It's like she's run out of things to talk or bitch about so she gets animals to make the relationships more 'fun'.
She's honestly like an overgrown codependent child that needs entertaining 24/7 with toys,sex, compliments and pets.

>>497105
Yeah she claims to love animals but is strangely clinical in the way she speaks about them. I agree with the uncut/cut thing. She also makes the dumbest points.
Dumbass compares them to family and then in the same breath says that you should get rid of them if they don't suit your home. The way she talks about cats breeding and stuff too is so stupid. She acts like she's a fucking cat expert because she's seen cat births but it's seriously because she gets bored, is too lazy to get her cats desexed and just wants kittens to play with until she can sell them.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=AbYv_QW9vNY ravens latest video about the dog, hooktube doesn't give her views

Also what is talking about the rescue people came to her house when she says in the video a woman is giving him away , and I doubt a rescue would give out a dog with infected eyes.

Wtf is with the decor. Anyways she made a fb page for the dog. Doja is the name.

From a post she mentioning she wants to loose the 20 pounds she gained back since 2015 (where she says she has lost 75 pounds from the surgery). From this math her pre weight was 225.

>>497309
More vlogging while driving, did she learn nothing from the crash that was more than a crash?


Stopped watching very quickly. Waiting for transcript anon

>>497175
Why does she always feel the NEED to say her pets have pedigreed or are expensive races? When you love animals and are adopting out of compassion, that shit does not matter.

>>497316
she's never going to get free weightloss surgery again. way to go Raven.

(taken from Kiwi Farms)Quick summary:

- Raven rambles on that they're good pet owners. Pvt. Piltdown mumbles in agreement.
- @ 4:27 she also states that she doesn't have experience with dogs. Cue ominous foreboding.
- @ 5:40 cut back to their new home. Their bed is in the fucking living room.
- @ 6:31 Raven introduces Doja. He's old, blind, and has an eye infection. One wonders how she'll be able to purchase the medication for this poor dog. Raven shines the fucking lights on the dog and asserts that he's a purebred. Doja, however, appears to be calm.
- @ 7:52 she smells the dog farting. Once again, a sign of things to come.
- @ 8:40 Doja's bed is a sad, blue blanket. At this time, dust particles become prevalent. Josh throws the dirty dog food back into Doja's dish.
- @ 10:00 - 11:15 Raven asserts that the animal agency went and checked out their home to ensure that the Doja lives in a good home.
- @ 11:40 - 12:30 Raven states that the dog is 11. She wants to ensure that he'll live out the rest of his days, and when he does die they'll post about it so that the haters can't accuse them of animal abuse.
- From here on out, Josh is shown to be far more affectionate with Doja. Doja seems to graviate towards Josh. This seems to be a common trend where Raven's pets seem to be better suited towards her exes.

a little OT (but not really cause it's always on topic for rayray), but has raven EVER made a single video in which she doesn't mention the haters at least once?
i don't think i've ever seen one.

>>497376
she is incapable of NOT mentioning us or KF. she needs us.

>>497372
Let me guess the storyline. They put her outside while Josh was out / at work and someone stole her.

So sorry for you pup, I hope something better happens for you and you get out of there.

>>497390
I watched the video and got really, really depressed because I have a pit bull as well and they're big babies. This poor blind pupper is going to suffer so much at the narc hands of Gravy

>>497401
Me too! I had a staffterrier that had to be put down at 15yo because of a metastasized cancer. I don't know why she thinks that 11yo dog is on its deathbed. He may be blind, but he can last a long time.
She could not even keep a chihuahua for 4 months, I don't think she can keep up with him.

>>497309
Hopefully Josh will have it in his heart to fucking put his foot down and make sure Raven doesn't cycle him through. I like a guy who loves dogs, but everything else about him is garbage. I can't even appreciate that he loves dogs because he let's Raven become irresponsible with his pets. And god damn has he become ugly as fuck. When I first saw pictures he seemed like your typical early 30s slacker guy living with mom. He looks horrible now! Pasty skin, drooping face and overall dead eyes. Even as he's happily interacting with his eyes, there's barely any light left. Josh, wtf did you do man, you're a loser, but fuck. Momma at least treated you well that you don't look like you do now.

That dog looks like the ultimate sweet heart. It's so sad these dumb fucks have him. I know dog rescuers and they work hard and are super intelligent in figuring out ways to help their dog become confident despite disabilities like hearing loss and blindness. Josh and Raven don't know what the fuck they're doing and it's evident in how they interact with him. I mean you wanna leash train your blind dog around the house so he gets a mental map of the house.

>>497312

It's https://www.facebook.com/Gentle.Giant.Doja/

>>497428

They are living in a cramped rundown one-room mobile home. The kitchen area is behind the bed. Peep the junk food on the counter. The window is propped open with a soda can.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1802059793434678&id=1802054720101852

>>497438

This is nearly the entire width of the room.

>>497438

Do they even have sheets on their bed? Peep the seam along the edge and the contrasting satiny weave of the fabric.

She is using the same pillow cases she used when they had the queen size air mattress. Their bed is king size, so the sheets she has don't fit.

And what happened to the four-poster bed supposedly purchased from their wishlist?

>>497438

They moved their bed into the living room because their bedroom is too small for both their bed and Doja's blanket on the floor.

>>497438
I would be fucking dying of chronic laughter at seeing her downgrading again (from a trailer, no less) if it wasn't for the newest member of Cirque du Neglect, a special needs old lovebug who deserves so much better than this shitshack.

Her videos are also mirrored at

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/raven/

>>497478

Meet Doja

Published on Mar 25, 2018

Please check out his page here:
https://www.facebook.com/Gentle.Giant.Doja

[driving in their Jeep]

We haven't done this for a while, but we are on our way to go get dog food for the newest member of our family that we will introduce. We just had gotten a dog that we didn't talk about. I made a video explaining our whole pet situation because apparently we…me or me and Josh, I think more me, is a bad pet owner…

J: That's not true. I know what's going on.

R: …and I don't think of the animals, or I flip animals or whatever the fuck, the cops are going to be called on me, and all this stupid bullshit.

But anyway…I'm trying to find a place for the camera…anyway um, but we're picking up dog food for this dog, Doja, and he is an 11 year old pitbull, and apparently he's the sweetest thing ever. He was shelter-bound because the owners are moving and they can't take him because nobody wants to let pitbulls…

J: They think it's a pitbull terrier mix [unintelligible] pitbull terrier.

R: Pitbull terrier. But yeah, apparently he's a sweetheart, but nobody wants to allow a pitbull on their property, so they have no choice but to get rid of him. And the girl was crying and crying and stuff. We promised that we would take really good care of him. So I'm probably gonna be opening a Facebook page so I can upload videos and photos cuz I take lots of photos.

And he's 100 percent blind, but everybody says he is such a sweetheart, so we're really, really excited. And um, we'll give him a good home because, believe it or not, we're actually good owners. We do care about the animals, we care about what's best for the animals above what we want, and that's the way it should be.

J: That's right.

R: Yeah. I've asked all these questions I need to ask. I've been told everything else. I've been in contact with the owner and the dog rescue and um, we're confident from what we've been told that he will be a good fit for us. And um, we have no other pets right now. He's gonna be babied and loved and live out his days with us, and it will be great. And we're really excited, so we will be updating and showing you videos and photos of him because he's, he's a really nice looking dog. [Josh mumbles] He's stocky and short. And he just looks like a tough guy. Like, it's good that he's a sweetheart because um, he looks like a strong boy.

J: Yes, he does.

R: Yeah. So um…

J: Really intimidating.

R: Yeah. But uh, apparently he hasn't barked or made a noise or whined on the way because they're bringing him from three hours away, bringing him here, so that's really nice of them to do. But they really, really wanted to find a home for him so we are glad. I think it pretty much came down to us or a shelter, and he wouldn't have lasted in a shelter.

J: They would put him down immediately, I'm sure. In a couple weeks.

R: He would have been miserable anyway not knowing what's going on, not being able to see. Being in a shelter, it's not a good way to end his life or so we're happy to be able to give him a home. So that's it for now. Look at your pretty little smile! [he rolls his eyes, pic related] Aw!

J: That sign is [unintelligible] right there. That's where the place is.

R: That's the vet.

J: We can stop right now on our way home here.

R: For what?

J: To talk to them.

R: Are they even open?

J: Yeah, it says they're open.

[they stop and Josh gets out]

R: So the vet's right close so we're gonna stop by because we're gonna to take him there to get groomed because we don't have a spout in our shower, so we don't really have a…all we have is a shower head, and I don't want to put him under, like, a shower shower. I want to give him a bath and trim his nails and I…I'm just…I've always been more of a cat person, I'm not that experienced with dogs, and so I don't want to stress him out or not be able to care for him properly when it comes to that shit, so to the vet it is. [Josh gets back in] Have anything to say?

J: What? Bye. [she mimics him] We'll keep ya'll updated I guess.

R: You're excited.

J: Yeah, I am excited.

R: Josh is such a dog person. He loves dogs, loves…you love any animal, though.

J: Especially dogs though.

R: You were a cat person for a while.

J: Yeah, but they…we really wanted to keep them, but we just couldn't. We don't flip…

R: Flip animals.

J: Her, especially me. Yeah, I wouldn't let her flip an animal.

R: Yeah, I know.

J: It's ridiculous.

R: [laughs] But um, yep, we will, we will update.

J: Yes, we will.

R: And uh, we're gonna get him in a couple hours. So I'll video that. Say, bye.

J: Bye.

[cut to her sitting on his lap]

R: Okay, so we're…I was gonna say we're back home. Well, we are back home. We're back home. We got him some food and some bones and a knuckle bone to chomp on. We've moved our bed out to the living room because our bedroom is too small, and we want to have his little bed and blanket right next to us so that we can keep an eye on him. He seems to be kind of stiff, very old, so I don't think he'll be able to jump on the bed. But his name is Doja. I'm gonna, I'm gonna pause it and then flip the camera around cuz I can't do it while I'm recording.

J: Yeah, you can.

R: No, I can't.

J: Really?

R: Where's the fucking flipper thingy. There. See? You can't do it. [Josh looks puzzled]

There he is, just sprawled out very comfortably. And he's completely blind and partially deaf. If he were to open his eyes you could see um…yeah, I don't think he has much interest in opening his eyes right now. Let's see. [she turns the flash on close to his face] His, his nose is awful scarred up.

J: Yeah, I saw that earlier.

R: His eyes are actually infected, so we got some antibiotics for him. And it…I don't know, he does look pretty, pretty scarred up. [she strokes his head] He doesn't jump or anything. Like, when you touch him he's really calm. He's actually pedigreed. They gave us his paperwork he's got. Like, he's like fully pedigreed. What is he, a pitbull terrier?

J: A pitbull terrier.

R: Yeah.

J: That's what I thought he was.

R: I wanted him to open his eyes.

J: [talking to the dog] Doja.

R: Yeah, his name is Doja. He's 11 years old. Look, look at his eyes, all gunky.

J: [soothingly] Poor thing. It's okay, bud, it's ok.

R: He wasn't asleep. He's been banging into the walls and stuff trying to learn where everything is. He is a gentle boy, poor old thing. [Doja stands up] He's got some coat problems. We're gonna get him on some real good food and try to heal him up. [she strokes his back] Whoo, did he just fart? My mouth was open.

J: No, it's the [hesitates] place.

R: It smells like doggy fart to me. Oh, well. He's an old man, of course he'd fart. But there's his little bed over there. So if I can get past him.

J: He's wagging his tail. Doja.

R: [she scratches him vigorously] Just look at him kicking. Aw, poor boy.

J: He's a sweet dog.

R: He is. He loves everybody.

J: Show them his bed.

R: I'm trying. He's blocking my way.

J: Step over him, then. Doja!

R: Say, that's rude to step over stuff. I don't want to do that. There you go. Anyway, so this is his bed, that was his blanket from his old home so it's here for him to smell. And we got him a…was that a knuckle bone? Yeah, and his food and his water. He's been drinking a lot. He's gone pee and poo twice already. We've got our bed set up here so we're really close to him. And he's uh down there in the hallway looking at nothing.

J: At the wall. [he walks down the hall] Are you over here whining, bud? [he pets him] It smells like fried chicken. C'mon, buddy.

R: He wants to go in that room, and I don't know why. That was where we were, but he didn't…he doesn't know that because, you know…

J: C'mon, buddy, c'mon.

R: …he just got here. He has no idea what he's doing, poor thing.

J: Yeah. We're gonna take good care of him, though.

R: He is, he is a happy boy, though. He, he does…he loves attention and love and stuff like that. So we'll give him a good home and all that. And the uh…

J: Good boy, c'mon.

R: The dog rescue people transported him here. They drove, what, three hours or…he, he came from three hours away.

J:  [unintelligible]

R: Yeah, and they dropped him off and they checked out our yard, front yard and backyard, and asked us about our vet and, you know, kind of interviewed us to make sure we were gonna be able to take care of him and stuff like that. So for those naysayers and bullshit people, we have met with the dog rescue people and have gotten the OK from them.

J: Yeah, they came inside and all that.

R: So yeah, so there's no debate over whether we're a good home for him or not. They asked us…she was here for a while, too. At least an hour? Yeah, at least an hour. And she was really friendly, and she seemed very happy with us.

J: Can you sit? Aw, good boy, you sit almost. [he kisses him] Wagging his little tail. His big tail.

R: His big tail. He's a big boy. [Josh scratches his sides] He's like, what are you doing to me?

J: He probably hasn't had that in a while.

R: But yeah, so that's our new boy. And uh, he is 11 years old and he's not doing so good, so there's no telling how long he's gonna live, so we have to be prepared for that and everybody else.

J: Nobody else would take him, poor thing.

R: Yeah. He wouldn't do good in a shelter at all, and we just want to give him a good life for the rest of his days, however long that may be. And if something happens to him we will post it. If he dies it's of old age, not because of us. I don't want to hear that shit because we're gonna be quite upset, especially Josh, he'll be really upset whenever that happens, and we don't need people trying to accuse us of bullshit because you're ignorant.

[Doja drinks] Sure does love that water. We're gonna get him all cleaned up, taken to the vet for some grooming, get his nails cut and his ears looked at and his eyes cleaned and all that stuff, heartworm check and pills. Aw, he just ran into the wall. Yeah, that's it. Poor boy.

[cut]

J: Just, just me talking. [Doja stands up into Josh's lap] Aw. Hey, buddy.

R: Look at that big head.

J: Big noggin. [Doja licks him] Hoo, your nails are sharp. [he kisses him]

R: I was trying to get a picture of you kissing him. [Doja licks his face] Aw, that's sweet. That is sweet. He is a sweetheart. I think he's gonna be daddy's boy.

J: Oh, yeah.

R: He says, I don't want to go to bed, I want to see you. [Josh encourages him to go to his blanket]

[cut to them in bed]

R: He was, he was whining and crying, and we didn't know what was wrong. And all he wanted was to be here on the bed and get tummy rubs, so Josh picked him up and put him up here with us. And he instantly rolled over and he was crazy happy. And he's just laying there loving it, loving it.

J: So am I.

[cut]

R: Aw, he's coming closer to you. You look so tired. He definitely got attached to you real quick, like right away. He's got some gunk on his eye over here. You get it? Aw, your poor eyes. [beeping] Yes! Power's back on.

J: Power's on, buddy. Alright, daddy's gonna get up. Slide over.

R: Hallelujah!

J: Lay down. I don't want you to fall off.

R: He's not gonna lay down because you're standing up. [cut to her scratching his stomach] Aw, big baby. [Josh unintelligible] Turn the fan off, then. He rolls over instantly as soon as you, as soon as you pet him he rolls over for belly rubs. [cut to Josh petting him] He's a happy little man. He's like, why are you telling me not to go? Not that he can hear you. Did he just paw for you?

J: Yeah, I'm not sure.

R: It looked like he went like this. Aw. There you go. Look at that big face.

J: [on phone] Hello…yeah…what?! [a loud, agitated female voice can be heard]

>and a knuckle bone to chomp on

She is wearing a Frankenstein's monster shirt to accompany his Chucky shirt.

>R: Whoo, did he just fart? My mouth was open.

>J: No, it's the [hesitates] place.

Peep the can of Glade. Throughout the video what appear to be gnats and flies are buzzing around their kitchen and hallway. Is that perhaps a can of bug spray next to the Glade?

They made room for their Amazon wishlist Christmas present garbage can. Notice that a previous tenant painted the paneling around something that was hanging on the wall.

Tequila Rose!

Slim Jims!

>>497479
>our whole pet situation because apparently we…me or me and Josh, I think more me, is a bad pet owner…
>apparently me or me and Josh, I think more me

fucking kek.

she's so salty, and it's just great. she may as well just come and namefag, or renew her kf account, and address the haters directly if she's gonna follow along so closely.

>>497486
>>497312

The wallpapers, paneling, countertop color, and floor covering are straight out of the late 70s / early 80s.

>>497479
Is it just me, or does her keep story changing? And is she implying this dog has also been abused/neglected?

Her story initially was a woman contacted her asking her to take in her blind dog. Raven said she didn't want the dog to go to a shelter and agreed. Then she talks about a dog rescue coming to view her house, and checking she's a suitable candidate to the dog. In the most recent video Josh suggests the dog hasn't been petted for a long time. Which is it, he came from a loving family who wanted Raven to give him a good home instead of sending him to a shelter, or did he come from a shelter where he'd been languishing for a long time?

And the fact he has an eye infection and they're saying his nose is scarred, nails overgrown and coat in bad condition seems to me like they're implying whoever had him previously wasn't taking care of him. And for some reason they think they are already doing an excellent job, by providing a blanket on the floor and plastic tub of water, and speculating about all the things they will definitely certainly do for him over the next few weeks.

Were his previous owners not treating his eye infection?

>>497312
>floral wallpapered bath/shower area

Christ. Her new place has to be from the 70s at the very most.

>So the vet's right close so we're gonna stop by because we're gonna to take him there to get groomed because we don't have a spout in our shower…all we have is a shower head

Just how rundown is their new shack?

She decided to bathe him herself anyway. They probably couldn't afford professional grooming.

>[beeping] Yes! Power's back on.

Judging by the outdoor photos of Doja's arrival, they live in a rural trailer park or at least in an area with several mobile homes in sight. Are power outages a frequent thing in their area?

>We're gonna get him on some real good food and try to heal him up.

But three weeks ago you said you and Josh couldn't even afford food for yourselves.

He was delivered in some type of large van.

Presumably the outside of their mobile home. There does not appear to be a driveway.

There's not even much of a road.

>>497490

Her story of acquiring Doja is consistent between the last two videos.

This woman infuriates me. It's one thing to fuck with sex-starved idiotic apes like Ryan and Josh, but another to bring in innocent animals into her fucked up narc world. The way she talks about animals disgusts me - they're meant to be irreplaceable and treated like family, not brought in for your amusement only to be tossed out the minute you don't like them anymore. This latest dog isn't that old as she's claiming and I can guarantee the reason she's saying so is in case she gets fed up of it and it "disappears" - easy to excuse that if it "died of old age" right? She truly sickens me.

>>497498
omg he looks old af. raven aged him at least 15 years. uff

She always says stuff like "he doesn't have long left" with such ease?

You know what costs money? Decent money? I mean other than the obvious dog food (ideally a prescription diet specifically for senior dogs, but who are we kidding…)? And you know, other than the routine veterinary care and any applicable analgesia or other treatments aimed at providing comfort (again, who are we kidding)? Euthanasia. Granny is putting such a shocking and sick emphasis on the poor old dog "not being long for this world"… I hate to think about it but it's not unusual for things to go downhill outside of regular business hours. Emergency/after hours veterinary fees are steep. Even during business hours it costs good money to humanely put a dog to sleep. The dog will likely need assistance passing on and I struggle to believe he'll receive ANY veterinary care, much less for end of life. In the last thread I was amazed to hear there's no animal control local to them so I don't know, maybe humane euthanasia is another thing they just don't do in them parts

I wish I could sage, I'm a hysterical anon that works with dogs though and this just kills me. Anybody CAN "rescue" an animal, but not everybody SHOULD. It sickens me to think the poor thing might have just been better off being put to sleep in a shelter. Granny can't afford postage for the giveaway-that-was-more-than-a-giveaway, we all know she doesn't have the finances to ethically "rescue" a senior dog with major health complications - she HAS to know. I'd like to think there's a special place in hell for those that "rescue" animals for their own selfish needs

>>497510
are we implying that ANY of her pet's have passed naturally? or that they've ever lived long enough to be humanely put to sleep?


she has a history of killing animals if her "my life story" series holds ANY credibility. poor Doja is going to mysteriously wander onto a road soon.

>>497510

They may be living in Aiken now (he posted looking for jobs and she negatively reviewed a business there). Aiken has a department of animal control and both a county shelter and an SPCA shelter.

>We've moved our bed out to the living room because our bedroom is too small, and we want to have his little bed and blanket right next to us so that we can keep an eye on him.

Surely not because you don't have a couch and like to eat in bed.

What happened to their TV and XBox and Playstation?

>>497525
Goth Gran probably made Josh sell them so she could get her slimjim fix

>>496776
The fact that she uses the word ‘flip’ wrt pets says a lot about just how much she cares for them.

How can she stand to live in such fucking squalor, what a pig.

New post about needing donations to care for the dog linked below ARE YOU KIDDING?!? This woman is insane, IF YOU CAN’T PROPERLY TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF…..YOU DON’T NEED A FUCKING DOG

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2040719639585291&id=100009418235436

Seeing her living in abject poverty in a one room hovel with her scruffy sandal wearing boyfriend makes me think that maybe karma is actually real.

>>497613

So Autumn Fralix runs a dog rescue organization facilitating adoptions but does not verify that the dogs are at least current with their and vaccines and free of potentially communicable infections?

>>497619
>>497621

>this is without actually being seen yet

Raven said that they had already gotten antibiotics for his eyes which would have required a vet exam.

Anyone who takes on the responsibility for an animal's welfare should be able to easily afford these expenses. But we already knew how irresponsible Raven is; she didn't know whether her last two kittens were neutered, let alone if they had been vaccinated, and Meg turned out to be a male according to her Facebook ad.

But why was this dog, who was supposedly so dearly loved by his previous owners, in such a state of blatant neglect?

I am unable to find any information about Autumn Fralix with regards to dog rescue. If she takes the time to interview adopters, surely she has a written agreement with her clients on both sides of the adoption delineating the responsibilities of all three parties, if for no other reason than to cover her own ass. But judging by her frantic post, I suspect that Autumn's operation is informal enough that she doesn't have a plan in place for situations like this. No doubt Raven is holding her responsible for the costs, and Autumn should be responsible for them if she promised that the dog would be in good general health aside from his disclosed chronic conditions.

What a shit show on all fronts.

>>497479
Why does she keep saying he's 11? We know already fuck. She says it like 3 times in one video.

>>497630
But anon! He's soooo old, he's practically dead on his feet!

>>497613
She's probably pulling a Tuna and most of that money, if not all, will be for her and not for the dog.

>>497637

Which post? I don't see where she talked about Doja in the screenshots about the golden lab mix posted here.

>>497635

The Paypal address belongs to Autumn.

Raven I s2g if this poor old guy dies on your watch I will perform fucked up voodoos on you

Seriously though, things aren’t like they used to be. You have way too many eyes on you, and you’re not going to be able to brush this under the carpet so watch it. Ugh, this bitch.

This Autumn person is clearly a noob at rescues if she gave to the dog to Raven that way. He should have had care and meds before he was placed. I’ve never seen a dog go out in shape like that before. No one’s even looked at what’s happening to his eyes? There’s a painful infection going on there and he might be better and happier having them removed.

This dog is in bad shape and Autumn is a cow for homing him without addressing his conditions first.

WHY are they not putting a leash on him until he sniffs out the lay of the space? It’s not all that bad that the place is small, this way he can figure things out relatively easily but the fact that she keeps talking about him dying is upsetting. My dog is sixteen and tbh the older they get the more expenses you have to keep them happy and healthy.

>>497478
She sounds like she’s trying to fake a southern accent. It’s faint, but it’s there. Listen to how she’s pacing her speech.

I ducking can’t with her, I just fucking can’t…do we know her new address..? I willing to make calls and get this poor dog taken from her.(no addresses; read the rules)

Some caps from Kiwi that weren't posted here. It sounds like the lady who 'rescued' him has no fucking clue what she's doing.

>>497704
Ha, you just beat me! This fucking idiot, tho.

This comment about the dog made my blood boil.

>lol idk he might be dangerous no1curr

>>497705
Raven you dumb shit, if you ‘weren’t trying to take in a dog this minute’ then why the fuck did you take him at all? This is going south with a quickness. She’s not even bothering to act like she gives a shit.

Maybe she was just low on asspats the day they decided to take him.

Raven and Josh are aware that they can clean his ears on their own? Or bathe him? They can also give him a Benadryl if he’s having obvious infection issues till they get him to the vet. Right?

It’s a car wreck.

Nice dox, Raven!

New ebegging vid.
Josh has a new job.

>>497705
I don’t get it, if you rescue dogs to your own house, aren’t you the one putting the time limit on? Get the dog to a vet instead of the bs urgent lines.

Autumn appears to be a scammer herself. She ‘saves’ dogs, mostly bullies, and rehomes them without doing med checkups prior to placement. She uses her real name everywhere, it’s pretty easy to follow the trail.

>>497723
Yep, saw the same thing. She tried to get money for a puppy that was very sick after taking him to the vet. She’s also a piece of shit.

>>497723
Van was someone else all together, Autumn begged for someone to take the dog to Raven. Autumn is a bitch for threatening the death of a dog here.

>>497723

‘Male selective’ can mean a few things, especially when combined with lol idk if he’s aggressive

>>497721
How much do you want to bet that the money raised is going towards putting him to sleep?

>>497727
And a comment on the post where she was going to see how the dog fares with others but said fuck it.

>>497721
What the hell is that music, sorry kek.

>>497727
Having just been the caretaker of an elderly and ill cat for 18mos, comes a time where euthanasia is a quality-of-life decision. Very few people are capable of giving a blind animal the care it needs. These people are all fucked of course.

>>497729
I'm betting the money is going into slimjims and that poor dog is either gonna be rehomed, or get lost in the woods.

>>497734
Anon, there are lots of people out there who can care for a blind dog just fine. Being blind does not impact their quality of life and it certainly doesn’t mean they should be put down. Anyone who’s had a blind dog can tell you that. They still have their noses. It’s definitely a shitty situation all around, though.

>>497727
Ugh this is getting worse and worse.

>>497730
It's weird how she can go to Saluda for a home check but can't actually transport the dog there…or any dog it seems.

Also raven is obsessed with this dog being pedigree, it's the first discriptor she has for him on the Facebook page she made for him and it's almost all she's talked about apart from his age.

>>497745
Betting she didn't. Raven just said that to make it sound like the haters were wrong.

I mean even if this woman did a full house check, she's clearly as big of a lolcow as Raven.

>>497730
The first post I saw for the dog is in one of comments here, notice raven liking it. Why you looking at a post about adoptions if you weren’t planning on it Raven?

The rest of the dogs are much younger, some months old, some only a few years. Raven picked the only old one.

>>497730
>I was gonna get him tested for a different home

What does she mean by this? Are cravey and joshie a last resort?

>>497749
I assume it’s testing behaviour around other dogs. So likely someone may be willing to foster but they have other animals, and they were going to see how the dog reacts before going ahead. Then it either fell threw or Raven was easier.

>>497704
of course she has no idea. even an amateur would make sure the poor thing had the medical attention he needs, would have checked out the prospects a lot more, and would be very careful with where the dog was rehomed. fucking hell. try not to rage challenge: failed

>>497736
I don't want to derail but that's not what I mean at all. Those 'lot's of people', which I would argue is a bit less than lots, are people who actually give a shit enough to provide high-care.

This dog is blind and has gone untreated by a vet for something that's probably not expensive to treat, now it has to spend its older years getting used to the emotional and behavioral expectations of these two fucks while being completely at their mercy because it can't see… still having infected eyes. You think this dog will get to the vet when it needs it, or that they'll make the hard decision about euthanasia when the time is right and see this sweetheart off to the other side kindly? They won't.

I give it two weeks before Raven claims she let the dog out and it wandered off into the woods never to be seen again because it's blind and got lost. Then they'll pretend to drive around for days looking for it and never find it, all the while Raven is browsing FB for her next pet.

>>497782
I'll be optimistic and say a month. I'll also say only one of them will be pretending, and the other will be genuinely wondering what happened when he wasn't looking.

This is so sad. She probably got Doja to use him to her advantage. He obviously needs treatment and her stans will be quick to donate. Money which I doubt will be used for him. She knows they can't care for a healthy cat , less a sick one but still got him anyway. I hope Josh pays more attention to the dog this time around and not let it dissapear .

>>497819

The previous owner could produce vet records from 2011 but not more recently? Has he not been to the vet since then?

>>497829
Fucking seriously. The vet bill I got today was $400 for a two year old. and I fucking hope that Hagraven and her idiot boyfriend understand how much money they'll be forking over for the sake of an older dog. I understand that this old bill isn't hers, but she just got the dog and is already asking for money to take care of it.

She's all "Omg this beautiful boy needs so much care, please help", that old, dumb cunt didn't know how much one pet would be after having what, 12 of them? I can't keep count of that hoarder's pets. One thing we know for certain is that she doesn't have the money to take care of an older dog. She can't even take care of her damn self.

Sorry to say but if no-one wants to adopt the dog (who is blind, sick and of older age), and the only option is Cravy who can neither afford nor care about the well-being of said dog, the only humane option would have been to put him to sleep. Really, it is sometimes the better option. He looks like such a sweetheart but his problems seem very uncomfortabke for him if not treated asap.

>>497705

"we didn't just take on an an animal that we can't afford"

the fuck? yes, you did.
that's why you're e-begging.
the stupidity, it burns

>>497479

>I'm not that experienced with dogs

She helped care for Ryan's Leonberger show dogs for several years and had her own dog, Skelly, while she was with him.

>>497843

He also appears to be arthritic which can be managed to some degree with medication and physical therapy.

Kiwis are speculating that he was used for fighting, but he has been blind for more than a few years and he does not exhibit the behavior of a traumatised dog. He doesn't have scars on his body. His tail would have been completely cropped. His ears are show or short cropped rather than battle cropped. The scarring on his nose is probably from using it to feel his way around.

>>497843
Not sure why anons keep talking about putting the dog down. Like, has the idea of her asking for $$$ got some people so heated that we would rather see the dog dead than with her? What is this argument people are even making, I mean, seriously it sounds weird to keep saying the dog is better off dead.

>>496828
>>496919
>>496997

Gir got caught out.

>>497858
Cowtipping to get the dog back in a shelter?

Yeah, count me out.

>>497859
because any money she manages to get won't go towards the dog.

>>497860
Gir/Placebo/Marionetta Chan btfo.

>>497862
So the dog should get euthanized because Raven will misuse the funds? Wew.

>>497843
You’re being retarded, anon.

>>497864
it would be kinder than letting it suffer under her care. she has a history of neglecting and mistreating animals. also the fact that animals that Josh likes keep going missing.


It's fucked up BUT KINDER in the long run. She's either not going to get it to a vet because lol, when has she EVER taken any of her animals to a vet? OR she's going to get sick of the dog farts and let it loose in the woods.

>>497872
k then.


Interesting side note, gir's fb page is gone. Poor little wannabe cow has gone into hiding. Top kek

>>497860
Oh my god she’s stupid. Shit like this always amazes me because how do you miss something like that? Whoops.

I can’t figure this out. The sham of a rescue is the person to start the PayPal campaign, correct? Raven is not receiving the money directly, the vet is.

Between this thread and the KF thread I’m pretty sure that’s what’s being said, but I could be wrong. Money is going to the Autumn Fralix email, and she said the money would get sent to the vet. Yes, or no?

>>497874

https://www.facebook.com/girthealiengoldfish/
https://www.facebook.com/eternalmarionetta/

are both deactivated.

>>497883
why are people posting about her in a raven thread? it doesn't even have anything to do with raven in the slightest, please stop.

>>497817
Lol like she didn't know all these things already. What the fuck? Can't wait for her to post a new haul in a few days

>>497881

cutenswt25@aol.com
audiboo1018@gmail.com

Yes, both email addresses belong to Autumn. She used the aol address fundraising for the family of a motorcycle accident victim last year. Audiboo1018 is her Pinterest handle.

She does not say that donations sent to her will go directly to the vet. She could be sending them to Raven.

>>497884

Obviously you have not been paying attention on either count.

>>497853
kiwis can be pretty autistic, yes. no evidence of that being the case.

>>497859
I'm not reading it like that. it seems more like, this old boy has a lot of health problems that are going to be expensive and time-intensive to manage and which still might not result in a good quality of life for the old fella. As another anon mentioned, there comes a point where it is better to put them to sleep than to keep them around and in a really crappy state. I don't think any of us are in a position to judge it in this case (not enough info)

>>497883

This pleases me.

>>497860
lmao she's such a fucking dopey cow. you'd think she would have learned something after Null called her out.

>>497884
you've touched the shit with raven several times. this is the latest example of you doing that, which in turn set Raven off sperging. so yeah, pretty obviously related. sorry, gir.

>>497860
>>497883

The account whose icon is in the upper right corner is still active.

https://www.facebook.com/MarionettaLaSkittlebug

The Gir account was a community page iirc.

So Kraken is still in Saluda and still in a shack. Did they ever even move, or was it just an excuse to get rid of the cats.

This one-woman rescue business seems to be a sham. Normally the rescue organization will take care of the animal's medical needs before rehoming him, and the people adopting the pet will have to pay some sort of a fee before getting the animal (at least in my eurofag-country).

I fear this is not going to end good for the poor pooch.

>>497912

They moved to an older, more decrepit shack infested with gnats and flies that has a bad odor.

>>497858
> saying that I'm an animal abuser
> your lies carry no weight here

That's not a lie though. She even had a video discussing being on a cult that killed small animals, didn't she?

I guess at least Josh cares about the dog?

>>497858
A pair of retards. A rescue never allows an animal to go into his new home with an eye infection and other medical problems. Is she just some self-righteous person trying to save dogs while doing it irresponsibly? It's usually the rescue's job to ask for donations and take care of medical costs BEFORE they home the dog. Anons have already pointed out the pathetic posts of this "rescue's" sketchy behavior. And who the fuck is cowtipping? It just makes retards like this Autumn person double down. But I guess this is how things are run in bum fuck where there aren't any better options or more responsible rescues. Poor pupper.

Got this from Kiwi.

If Raven was serious about getting care for the dog instead of using it as a way to scam slim Jim money she could just ask donation be made directly to the vet. She won’t do this because she specifically got a pitiful dog thinking money would pour in - she made a FB page for it before it took its first poop in the yard ffs

>>497941

Greenville is 100 miles northwest of Columbia. Why post it there?

Image from Kiwi. Only a matter of time before Raven "forgets" him outside. Idk why she insists on getting dogs, she clearly hates everything about them.

>>497941
I know cow tipping is frowned upon, but thank god for anons doing so. This bitch needs her animal abuse checked.

I only wish they would have added that Raven has confessed to:
- torturing and killing animals in the past as part of satanic rituals

- joking about (but probably not joking about) stealing people's pets out of their own yards

>>497950

You can download image files from KF to repost here, btw.

At 21:10 "I've said it before, I don't like dogs"

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=03Q90gHgeOU

Also, found the video where she admits to torturing animals, but she's removed it (screen cap of it in previous thread). Did anyone happen to download it?

>>497951
Ohhh, thanks anon. I will do that next time.

>>497953

>>>/pt/465581 said they saved them. Where are you, video archive anon?

This paragraph is in clear text.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110528081201/http:/raven-official.webs.com:80/updatedinfoaboutme.htm

>>497888
But she did say it. So the money will go to the dog’s medical treatment, not Raven.

People need to calm down and stop acting like they know what they’re talking about wrt this dog because they actually don’t. None of us do. The woman ‘running the rescue’ is a cow who uses other people to ferry animals around SC and should also be posted about on CL so that people in SC know she’s a piece of work. I’m sure there are actual rescues that can step in for these pets. She has, in the past, done the exact same thing she’s doing now—homed an animal first and ~then called for donations to pay for medical care. If you want to go out brigading for a cause, alert other rescues in the area.

We saw videos of the dog. We know that Josh will care for it at the very least. It’s awful that the dog ended up with Ravey, but so is the woman who put a time limit on rehoming him. This BS drama wouldn’t even be happening if this Autumn retard hadn’t said ‘If I can’t rehome him by tomorrow, off to the shelter he goes’ but please stop with the ‘dog would be better off dead than with Raven’ creeper shit. As loathsome as she is, that’s still not the dog's fault. From what we can see in the video, he’s still able to get around, is interested in food and water, and is able to enjoy getting his belly rubbed. That’s not an animal who needs to be put to sleep. All this is doing is making Raven rub her hands gleefully because she sees how spun up we are about it. Stop giving her shit to work with, it’s gross to feed malignant narcs this way.

>>497955
If you’re talking about Archive-kun they split a long time ago. Is there a new video anon?

>>497983
His belly rubbed is one sure thing that dog is not getting from Raven.
Josh is back to work, leaving Raven alone with a blind pitbull the entire day and she is already complaining >>497950

Guess which door will end up open and who will be hit by a car by the road? I give it two weeks.

>>497986

No, it was not the newfag.science anon. Follow the thread to >>>/pt/467493

>>497983

In >>497619 Autumn stated that donations can be sent to her Paypal account or directly to the vet. She did not explicitly say that donations sent to her Paypal account would go directly to the vet.

>>497995

apparently you can’t scroll or read
>>497954

there you go, call the vet and ask if they’re receiving donations directly omfg this thread is douche chill central rn

>>497941
Stephanie Marion McHerron, why are you doing this? Yes, it’s a good cause but why can’t you step away from the intertubes? Does someone need to explain to your mommy and daddy that they need to cut it down for your own well being?

it’s simple to dremel a dog’s nails. Country Mom prob has tools laying around, why don’t they do that part themselves? idg anything this cow does lol

here you go rave, go to town
http://bfy.tw/HL8C

>>498001
Autism or shitposter? Tough to say, really.

>>497996

I can read. I posted >>497954 and >>497619.

cutenswt25@aol.com is Autumn's Paypal account address.

Autumn stated that donations can be sent to her Paypal account or directly to the vet.

She did not explicitly say that donations sent to her Paypal account would go directly to the vet.

The vet is accepting donations by phone.

>>498005
I was almost tempted to donate some money directly to the vets, but I refuse to enable Raven in that way. Do the veterinarians office not think there's something weird going on here? They have people come in and sign up a dog clearly in bad shape, and the next day a different person calls them and tells them to accept donations for the dog and set up some kind of credit scheme for his treatment?

>>497991
Where’s Josh working, I wonder. He has to know that on some level, she’s not safe with animals. The one redeeming quality he has is that he appears to care for animals, so why doesn’t he see that she’s fucked up about them? He’s either blinded by lurve or borderline retarded.

I wonder if he knows about the devil worshipping/animal sacrifice to the DARK LORDS part of her past? I can’t imagine that he’d be all that thrilled about it.

Has he ever discussed any part of her past? He’s not supposed to visit here or KF, right? Wew, he’d find it enlightening, I’m sure.

>>498007
They’re hicks in the sticks, what do you want? I believe it if only because rural SC is pretty fucking rural.

>>498005
Gir please gtfo.

>>498002

He could (and probably does) have ear mites. Could his hearing impairment be caused by impacted ear wax or an infection?

>>498000

By Country Mom do you mean Autumn? Raven hasn't confirmed that Autumn herself accompanied Doja to their shack. She lives in Charleston and Doja was from the area, but she wasn't able to transport him herself.

Let's not forget the neglect of his previous owners. They "have had him for a long time. They love him…" Yet they had not taken him to the vet since 2011 and allowed him to go blind from a preventable condition. He may have even more conditions yet to be discovered by the vet.

>>498020
yeah I saw those posts but was hoping you would fuck off since you’re also drooling pro euthanize anon so let’s stop interacting because we won’t ever agree but

everyone is capable of cleaning a dog’s ears and when you do that, it will give them some relief with or without mites until you take them to the vet

i don’t know who country mom is supposed to be but the point about dremeling works for me. josh needs to open his toolbox and see what he’s got in there, trimming or filing a dog’s nails is not rocket science and if the picture posted is of doja’s nails then the quick is clearly visible. even if the nails are black you file straight to the bed, problem solved, i love how some anons think that ear mites and unfiled nails are good reasons to nuke the dog, you sound like mini-dianas

>>498022
samefag, here raven

>>497955
>>497986
>>497993
Oh hello there. Seems I saved just that video. Where do you want it? I'm a fucking idiot.

>>498019

Not Gir.

Autumn could very well be sending the donations she receives to Raven on the assumption that Raven will honestly put the funds towards Doja's care.

>>498022

I am not the pro-euthanization anon, either.

I did not say that she should not clean his ears or trim his nails.

Josh has a toolbox? Probably only in his video games. Notice that he didn't step up to help groom Doja despite being such an experienced dog lover.

>>498024

No, you're awesome for having saved it! Do you have any of the leaked videos, too? The only existing archive that I know of only has two of the eight.

https://archive.org/details/@ravenjosh

Is bitchute.com also an option?

>>497957
so edgy raven, fuckin kek. that's not even what satanism/"devil" worshipping is about

>>498028
Ayo! Look at the idiot go. That'd be the account I completely forgot I was uploading on. If you go into a couple of the videos it has more than one video. Ugh is a playlist of 13 videos. In Ugh2 there are 5 videos, including the one where she talks about killing the animals. It's titled "My Story 4"

>>498029
I like the part where she walked into a normal church sermon and ended up getting an exorcism kek

>>498032
Only in the life of Raven!

>>498008

In the very beginning of TLTWMTL she boasted that he would be her white knight. She said in >>>/pt/398114 that compared to Logan, he "wouldn't stand idly by and watch her get torn to shreds".

And in the beginning he did tell a hater on Youtube to "go fuck yourself and then go kill yourself" >>>/pt/398105 and post screeds directed at the hate sites >>>/pt/405569 [pic related]. It was speculated that Raven may have written those herself.

But in their Q&A's he urged her to ignore the haters and said in >>>/pt/419017

>J: I wanted to at first, but she would prefer me not to do it.

>R: I prefer nobody go on there that knows me.

>J: Out of respect because I know what those hate sites can do. I've seen them in the past before I knew who she was. This is not the first time I've heard of them, but this is the first time I've heard of that one, those two. But out of respect for her I have not went on it not one time.

>R: It's bullshit cause I'm pretty sure your brother went on there when he googled me, but I'm pretty sure I heard him say that they were talking about your mom as well.

So his brother knows about the hate sites, too.

Speaking of his brother, in >>>/pt/444783 Raven says that the dog that was shot with an arrow was Joel's dog, not Josh's, so she rewrote history again in >>496776.

>>498030

Thanks for the explanation; I'm an idiot and didn't see the scroll bar. I have both archive accounts listed in the OP.

Just gonna leave this here

>>498039
No problem! I also have the video of her letting her son play in the ice beside the highway with the ex who is just an ex, but I feel like her son is doing a good job distancing himself from her and don't want to be the one to drag his name back into hell. The video is old news. Sorry for bringing up the past and not contributing to the dog talk.

Autumn is at least known to some of the SC shelters and other rescue organisations.

Her post >>497619 was reposted via Doja's page on
https://www.facebook.com/groups/FriendsOfSpartanburgAnimals/

Autumn has posted and has been tagged on
https://www.facebook.com/ChasingTailsPetPatrol.columbiasc/posts/1324447914322385
https://business.facebook.com/pg/loveofapaw/posts/

But is she actually a member of any of these organisations or is she a free agent?

Will Doja's rescue story earn Raven clout with the legit organisations? Dare I speculate further that Raven will become involved in fostering rescues?

>>498040

Your icon is showing.

>>498048
Free agent.

>>498048

Google results has her associated with https://www.facebook.com/rottenrescues/ but I can't find the post.

Let's just let Raven wear the skin of a human being for a few weeks. Raven is incapable of doing good deeds so trying to care for this poor animal will most likely be a failure. She's double downed and this moron of a rescuer has double downed letting some festering assholes with no money take care of a dog with serious needs. All because it's better than him being put down? Well barely. But I have to admit, all this cow tipping is becoming irritating. Not sure if it's placebo or kiwis or farmers, but this will eventually result in what always happens with Raven. She'll fuck someone over, complain about them and blame everyone but her, so it's just a matter of letting the milk flow in. No one is going to take the dog away, so let Raven clean up shit and make some vet visits. Whether it blows up and the dog is removed or Raven is forced to do some work for an innocent creature, how much can be lost? She's already created a page and has a rescue involved (as moronic and hillbilly as she might be) so there's some oversight. I hope that a better owner steps up to give the pupper an actual good life rather than a mite invested trailer.

>>498067
>Let's just let Raven wear the skin of a human being for a few weeks.

Not like we can stop her anyway.

The scary part about her having a blind dog is that he will most likely suffer from more pain at her hands than natural causes. I don't mind the cowtipping if it's genuinely within the dog's best interest but it sort of seems like it's not 100% for the dog and is somewhat out of spite.

We can't prove or tell who's doing it because Hagraven has pissed off so many people that she has a ton of enemies all over the place.

With that being said, I do hope the dog ends up in better hands. He seems to have had the worst luck and it would be nice for him to have a happy ending.

She posted a video of Doja crying and asks him, "Are you sad because all those mean internet people are trying to get you taken away and put down? All those people who think they are animal lovers but want to see you in a shelter and killed just to hurt me? Huh? Is that why you're sad?"

He is missing nearly all of his teeth!

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1803141263326531&id=1802054720101852

>>498070
Why is she such a soulless fucking bitch?

She wants to take care of the broken nail but says that she has nothing to deal with his nails, not even scissors, and that she doesn't want to buy nail clippers and end up hurting him. She is going to ask the rescue people what to do.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1802714396702551&id=1802054720101852

>>498067
Plus it will be fun to watch her try and keep up her "I'm a good person" charade after all the attention dies down and all she has left is smelly dog farts and the extra time/expense of caring for a elderly dog - especially since she doesn't even like dogs!

Wonder if she'll get jelly of the the time, attention, and money Josh will give it.

>>498090

He woke her up by snoring and cuddling up to her while she was trying to sleep in. Now that they have allowed him to sleep in their bed there is no going back to the blanket on the cold floor.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1803088896665101&id=1802054720101852

He was anxious and whimpered until Josh got home. And this was the first time they were separated after having him for only a day. Tell me the tone of her voice doesn't sound tinged with green. And she finds it necessary to narrate everything.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1802795143361143&id=1802054720101852

>>497721

At least say "Thank you!" Raven.

>>498099
It's all happening my doods

>>498070
She's so retarded. Not only is this embarrassing, it's cruel to the dog. He just wants to be comfortable. He's probably whining because the fat bitch can't pay for some god damn eye cream. I hope Josh starts throwing money his way, Raven gets overwhelmed and someone takes him after they put some decent cash into him. This is the best I can hope for.

>>498109
She'll probably get jealous of the dog hogging Josh's attention and will get rid of him long before they get him eye cream.

>>498070
is anyone remotely suprised by this i mean the edgeposting in here was retarded

what if we somehow had a cravey/tnd cow crossover

>>498081
oh my god she is retarded like Raven
just cut his fucking nails christ not everything is high drama lol is she for real

>>498146
It's 15 bucks at the vet to get that done, btw. Her fatass could have skipped a meal and gotten it taken care.

>>498151
>Her fatass could have skipped a box of slim jims

There fixed that for you, anon

>>498041
it's actually nice to have something other than the dog talk because it's making the autism in this thread escalate.

>>498048
>will doja's story earn clout with legit rescue operations

how the fuck is that even a question. and of course she won't become further involved, that would require effort and actually caring about animals, not getting the most messed up one you can find to Prove a Point to some bitches on the internet.

>>498070
she's so obsessed with haters, holy shit. how empty would her life be if she ever did get off the internet

>>498154
Between us and Kiwi, the a-logging will be long and hard I think. If anything makes Farmers sperg out, it's animal abuse. It would have been better if the cunt hadn't gotten rid of ALL HER PETS less than a month before acquiring a special needs dog for attention. It's more so the desperate attempts that are being made and random edge posts that are cringe worthy. But hey, the beauty of anon posting. I think Placebo/Gir has something to do with this. Clearly she's invested in Raven and probably has been in some time. More than the average cow spectator.

I'm a big animal sperg, but I'm riding this thing out for the best. Raven made a show, now even her fans (2 fat goth women, neckbeards who aren't allowed to thirst post and one hillbilly pet rescue warrior) won't be so forgiving if she fucks up. I mean the cats are in a better home, statistically speaking, the beautiful lab mix is back with his family, so hopefully this guy will at least have a temporary cardboard box that Raven calls a new home to sit in until the rain stops.
>she's so obsessed with haters, holy shit. how empty would her life be if she ever did get off the internet
Whelp…she never will. That's why we're here. Look at the glory of the queen! She's still the most of holy of cows and she only logged off and newfags can't even decipher the /pt/ meaning. Not saying Pixy was ever as disgusting as Raven, but she was legend. Our amusement ends when the attention whoring does.

how many slim jim’s could raven eat in one sitting

>>498159
how many slim jims would it take to get Gravy to the moon?

Raven has been relegated to third wheel.

Reunited

"So as I suspected, that's what Doja wanted. As soon as Josh came in he was wagging his tail and he was so happy. He was wagging his tail and loving and jumped right on him. And he has not whined or anything. He just laid down on Josh's lap … He's just clinging, clinging to Josh. That's all he cares about. Just crying all day, whining. It doesn't matter if I'm here or not. He's just waiting for you to come home. He's so content right now. What did you think of seeing him crying? He's just happy as can be. That's all he wanted. Gonna have to get used to daddy being at work, though."

"I wish I didn't have to work, but I have to work."

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1803195266654464&id=1802054720101852

A man and his dog ❤

"Not a single whine out of him now that daddy's home. You are so loved. Maybe he's trying to cuddle closer to you … A boy and his dog."

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1803214339985890&id=1802054720101852

>>498215
I'm telling you, she's going to get jealous of the dog taking up so much of Josh's time. You can already tell based on that quoted paragraph.

"How Doja comes inside. Not bad for a blind dog!"

Especially considering Josh doesn't guide him, so he has to navigate through a piled up garden hose and bumps his nose into the side of the stairs.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1803225729984751&id=180205472010185

>>498215
>>498222
She won't tolerate this dog being there for long, then.

>>497950
WHy did you pick one of the gassiest dog breeds then? Pitties right up there with mastiffs and boxers for farting a lot.

>>498036
>yr all jelly that someone u don't like is gonna be happy
a happy person wrote this tirade. wow.

>>498070
woooooow. classy raven continuing to use that poor dog to try and stick it to "the haterz". like your dog really gives af about the internet. he just wants his eye meds and to not be screeched at.

>>498239
hopefully he ends up somewhere that people can actually look after him properly. poor guy.

>>498215
Ok, I will give this to Josh: I think Josh may genuinely be a good guy based on the way the dog (and their previous pets) interact with him. Animals won’t go to arseholes and they all seem to love Josh.

They all seem to hate Raven. Even animals think she is a stupid vapid cunt. There was an old video from when she had the little dog in NZ. The dog went into the room where she was filming her video and she broke off mid rant to scream abuse at the little dog. If she speaks aggressively to animals it’s no wonder they cower,, attack or just avoid her rude arse.

Get some fucking sheets, Raven. In this video filmed the morning after he arrived, she talks about how badly Doja needs a bath and that he has bad dandruff. Her purple fuzzy blanket is covered in animal hair and dirt. In another video Doja is sleeping with his head in a messy pile of clothes. She complains that she didn't get any sleep with him taking up space in the bed and snoring.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1802318260075498&id=1802054720101852

From her public page I think? I don’t think the caps she has is from here but she mentions the old video

>>498291
Part 2

>>498292
Part 3

>>498293
First pic is showing pics of marmalade and that’s a comment on a post

>>498295
Her defence of whatever but shows timeline for some of those kittens

>>498296
The whole post part 1, which shows they didn’t changed her words. I don’t think the post makes her look ok.

>>498298
Part 2, thanks to whoever got her angry because she capped this herself.

>>498299
Part 3 with the comment from earlier. She said she reopened a profile to cap this.

>>498292

If this is the truth, then why didn't she say this in her video >>496860 instead of saying

>… we had planned to keep some of her kittens. None of that worked out because we knew our relationship was falling apart.

And in this video, she and Logan had already named the four that they were planning to keep.

https://youtu.be/Mr85f-klLNU

>>498291
The little setting cog is by the update time. Doesn't that only pop up when you block out certain people from seeing the post? I wonder who she's hiding that from.

Her stating she was 13/14 during the animal killing ways is hilarious. She had her own cult and was murdering small animals at 13? More edge than bismuth. If you stand by what you said in that video, you should be held accountable for what you've done in your past. Even if it's your past, you fucking psycho. Someone can't rape a baby and 30 years later be like "oh yea, but that was in the past teehee." No, They would still a baby rapist. Just like you, Raven, are still an animal abuser.

>>498292

>video reuploaded in 2012 and made private
>stole that video

That video was still public in October of last year >>>/pt/457306.

Mr. Marshmallow, a special needs cat, is a dick!? Bitch you're the dick!

I'm curious what effect all of this will have on her reputation in bumfuck nowhere. Most people don't take kindly to confessed satanists animal abusers, especially small towns in the south. And now she's driving traffic to the very sites where all her awfulness is documented with proof. Maybe they'll form a mob and run her out of their town like Frankenstein's monster.

>>498315
And because torturing animals in youth isn't a clear sign of psychopathy. She shoots herself in the foot. Most people wouldn't even believe an anon board and the kiwis who exist on the fringe if Raven doesn't document this shit herself.
And anyone on her feed who don't call out Raven for her former abuse are bad people.

>>498274
Dogs also gravitate toward children and even people with special needs. Maybe this is a clue of how retarded Josh actually is? Poor pup is probably nervous being stuck with Raven the entire day. Josh is like heaven compared to being stuck with her.