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No. 338177

What is even happening edition

Once Again:
Sage your non-milk posts. Being fat and or ugly, while hilarious, is not milk by itself. Lying/shooping yourself excessively to hide that you are fat and ugly and crying about it when caught is milk. PLEASE refrain from mini-modding or hi-cowing. If there is proof that a cow is posting in thread, report the post and move on.

Thank you to the anon who made the timestamps!

Scalping dramas:
>>319057 LM comment fight about an expensive Meta skirt, >>319108 wtf_egl weighs in, >>319122 anon claims the drama was spurred on by the oldschool server
>>324932 The notorious Fril scalper
>>337700 Weizhen brings her huge Xianyu lots over to LM

Indie brands, events, and stores:
>>314942 Bay Area Kei still requiring masks, anons bait and fight about it
>>314978 Backstory/clarification on the past shady behavior of JP reseller GloireSoleil, also known for her indie brand RusanjinRoom
>>316393 JP indie brand Royal Princess Alice uses AI in a print; >>316656 Lolibrary server has some drama about it and people accuse each other of racism
>>318024 Selkie uses AI, lolitas get involved for some reason
>>329901 Sweet Poison Cupcake, a physical store in Upstate NY dedicated exclusively to shitty dropshipped "jfashion", makes a GoFundMe

Cows in the spotlight:

Random troons and itas:
>>317127 French ita gets mad at AP for requiring attendees to actually wear AP to brand tea parties, somehow makes it about transphobia
>>317425 Reddit ita discovers /cgl/ and gets outed for having fetish content in her post history
>>318582 Greasy troons scam a vendor at Harajuku Day LA
>>319542 Ginormous troon walks in the BTSSB show at NYFW, thinks lolita is related to child sexual abuse
>>321339 Uncle Fester troon is openly a BDSM fetishist
>>321739 Angelicprettybunny briefly makes lolita secrets a thing again on IG
>>324653 Troon writes weird fetishy post in BSOLF
>>337141 Troon wears AP and a confederate flag bikini in his porn shoots

Frilled Criminal:
>>324075 20dollarlolita is gonna sue Frilled!!!!1
>>324547 FC professes her hate for Freckled Zelda

Gabby/gibofgabs/saxbluelita
>>336074 Drama begins when Gabby freaks out over a rare and highly coveted BNWT Hospitality Doll set is posted to LM with a high starting bid. She fights at length with the seller and others in the comments and tracks some of them down on IG to continue the battle.
>>336108 Spergs out on IG Live for almost 90 minutes, >>336359 timestamped version

Freckled Zelda vs. Lilacscented and friends and family:
>>323931 Drama begins when Lilacscented and her sister, Maddy, accuse Christian cosplayer and notorious ita Freckled Zelda of sending sexy pics in their group chat where an underage boy was present. Zelda also joked about pushing Lilac off a cliff in her wheelchair. Lilac is counter-accused of misleading viewers by blurring the photos to make them look more sexual than they really were, and having encouraged the pattern of sexual and edgy jokes in the group chat herself.
>>324165 Lilac’s scandalous chest port pic, >>324187 Zelda’s bunny pics uncensored. Anons fight over whose pics endangered children more.
>>324214 Zelda wears her Sugar Bouquet backwards
>>325432 Zelda makes a followup video arguing that LS and her crew used her for fame
>>329081 Discussion of Lilac’s car accident, whether she’s munching and/or trying to scam her insurance

Isha:
>>314555 Makes a depop
>>316795 Backs out of selling a dress, her PayPal gets locked for unclear reasons
>>316841 New LM account
>>316873 Creates a classic lolita discord server, a cgl user claims she is using it to scam but no further details are available.
>>318336 More negative reviews on LM
>>318524 Farmhands reveal that Isha had an obsessed vendettaposter. This same person apparently WKs for Lara, but farmhands don’t think it’s Lara herself.
>>318520 Samefag accuses themself of being Isha
>>319700 Leaves lolita for realsies this time
>>320927 Scalps a bra
>>323248 New depop

Misc:
>>313928 Toast gets robbed in Japan
>>316913 Nat resurfaces on TikTok and anon claims she sexually assaulted someone; >>316952 farmhands out this anon as a samefag with a vendetta
>>317039 Angelbabykittyprincess confirmed as an OF whore
>>321879 Beck said the n word 9 years ago
>>322306 Dollywave had some friend group drama with other sweets
>>336148 Genesisofthend quits lolita and converts to Islam(thread made too early)

No. 338180

Forgot to link the old thread mb
>>>/w/313446

No. 338707

>>338681
In reply to last thread why did user even pay the inflated shipping? It probably didn't cost more to ship it's just her skimming even more off the top. I hope when she gets the dress she leaves a negative so more know to avoid her.

No. 339006

What the actual fuck just showed up in the egl yt tags

No. 339020

>>339006
Reminds me of those videos Rosiebow would put up of him shaking and touching himself in lolita. Report and maybe YT will take it down like they did his.

No. 339045

Is anybody going to talk about the old school scammer? Something about friends and family payments and not shipping?

No. 339141

>>339045
Weizhen?

No. 339355

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>>>/w/338327
Did she delete her classic lolita server after being called out here?

No. 339361

>>339355
Probably lmao, she has a habit of doing that. She has abandoned multiple Instagram accounts in the past. I wonder why she keeps leaving the community and coming back…

No. 339362

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>>339361
she never actually leaves, she just pretends to leave whenever she gets too much negative attention and switches to a different account while still posting coords/interacting with the community on the new account. I think it's because she's embarrassed about her cow status and bad reputation as an unhinged pickme who e-begs from incels kek. up until recently she was posting lolita coords on ig (pic related is the account she posted on) but deleted all her coord pics and likely switched to another account again after she got posted last thread sperging out on discord.

No. 339364

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Troon gets posted to ita thread and thinks everyone is jealous of him. He then "gets over it" but proceedes with the most violent male reaction, yeah bud this instantly aggressive reaction is very womenly.

No. 339365

>>339364
Even from the low quality image, you can tell the troon looks like a typical autistic moid. His testerical tantrum was the cherry on top.

No. 339367

>>339364
‘Over it’ but still wishing for a woman to be curb stomped because she posted his picture on a dead 4chan board. Real appropriate response there bud.

No. 339369

>>339364
kek at him throwing a mantrum and displaying his misogyny and violent xy chromoid tendencies for everyone to see. what discord server is he posting these seething messages in?

No. 339370

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>>339045
I personally believe it was Isha "Naomi" scamming people under one of her new names.

>>339364
Typical male response. Yes it came from the server. Every troon in this fashion puts on a dress with 0 other effort and expects us to call him a woman. Most of us are mocking you outside of the public channels. Picrel is what he attached on his /cgl/ post. Checkout that eyebrow! Wearing brand doesn't make you a woman "Sam"!

No. 339371

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>>339369
The old-school server kek he can’t stop complaining there. His comments on men are so thoughtless and ironic but he’s dead serious

No. 339372

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>>339045
The old school scammer, multiple victims came forward with similar stories.

No. 339373

>>339370
lmao how can he think he looks good? men are so delusional and overconfident. he's got a hideous blocky man face, massive male shoulders, giant man hands, and an unflattering haircut. he could've done the world a favor and used a face sticker if he wants to post his mediocre coords.
>>339371
it's so pathetic that he is parroting actual women to try and blend in but then does a 180 and whines about his fellow male troons having their feefees hurt. caping for his tranny scrote brethren supersedes pretending he's a woman. I'm sure he's a constant source of milk, feel free to post anything else he's said that's unhinged/milky. he might start deleting stuff if someone tips him off that he's posted here.

No. 339374

>>339373
The cherry on top is Godofpoop is also a man(sage your shit)

No. 339375

>>339372
what is this person's lacemarket?

No. 339377

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>>339375
I think we all bought or traded on discord not lacemarket. Is it allowed to post her PayPal name or email or is it considered private? It wasn't a Chinese name or Isha's on the PayPal so it wasn't them.

No. 339385

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>>339375
These transactions were completed on discord, but even from their most recent feedback on lacemarket you can see a pattern emerging
https://egl.circlly.com/users/Solanaceae

No. 339386

>>339385
thanks, the account is familiar. i wonder if they're an intentional scammer or just going through something that's led them to be lazy about shipment.

No. 339387

>>339386
Even if it started out as unintentional, at some point it crosses over from laziness to scamming. They continued to sell despite not shipping already sold items for months.

No. 339390

>>339386
It has to be intentional or why else did she say her account was broken/could only use f&f payments? Why go through discord and not LM where there's a feedback system?

No. 339412

>>339386
She said she has multiple lacemarket accounts so be aware. I think she said she lives near Austin Texas.

No. 339487

>>339370
He looks absolutely horrendous, and will never pass. No wonder why he's so butthurt about women not seeing him as one.

No. 339516

>>339412
How does lacemarket need ID but lets people make multiple accounts? If that's the case then her name is Sarahi and TX and LA comms should watch out. If anyone bought from her file a chargeback and PayPal will refund you, I got mine back in 3 days. She's stolen thousands of dollars with friends and family and trades she didn't complete from the old school lolita server. Has anyone asked mods to add her to the black list https://egl.circlly.com/pages/blacklist ?

No. 339520

>>339516
the id requirement was more recent. i think it was only in the last year or two they started doing that?

No. 339523

>>339520
Yes, it's recent, but that means, what, she's had multiple lacemarket accounts for years at this point then?

No. 339531

>>339516
She could have possibly made an account under her fiances name. Anyone who cannot file a chargeback through paypal, go to your bank.
She lives outside Houston TX, not Austin. The amount of money she has stolen is despicable, Sarahi Torres if you are reading this I hope you are ashamed.

No. 339537

>>339372
Can someone in this discord post a photo of Decay?

No. 339538

It’s sad that this thread didn’t summarize the Isha lolibrary discord drama. I feel like she’s one of the actually interesting cows we’ve had in a long time. Does anybody else have screenshots of any more milky things she’s said, either in that server or from the classic lolita server?

No. 339540

>>339537
She never posted any images. Her overfamiliarization and lack of images concluded some to think they were a sissy in disguise who brownosed admins to protect themself

No. 339546

>>339540
LM feedback shows she wears size US 6 shoes. A troon couldn't fit those, look at sam kek. Judging off name and buys it's a short hispanic woman. No photos seems odd for a private discord server? How did mods let her in? Hope everyone can get refunds. Reminds us to not use f&f even if we trust the person.

No. 339551

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>>339537
>>339540
Definitely not a man and there are some pictures but all with her face blurred. She's a thinner Hispanic woman with long black hair, and people definitely have photos of her face since there's proof she was going to meetup with other old-schoolers.(sage your shit)

No. 339552

>>339538
it's because it was made before the isha drama happened. i don't remember her being milky in the classic server, either. she was on her best behavior, it seemed. the classic server is nuked anyway btw.

>>339551
honestly these photos aren't very helpful considering the majority of old schoolers have this exact same build, style, and wardrobe pieces.

No. 339553

>>339552
The pink Hospitality Doll NWT is unique. If she tried to sell or post that people will notice.

No. 339555

>>339538
Being snarky to lolibrary cows isn't milk.

No. 339594

>>339551
so she scammed 6+ people out of rare pieces just to wear them indoors in a dark room?

No. 339595

>>339594
what pieces?

No. 339596

>>339595
ayrt and sorry idk, this was going off what's shown in the pic which is all highly sought after oldschool meta.

No. 339598

>>339594
It was least 10 people, even this troon >>339370 Let's not forget she refered to black people as 'blacks' too so take that as you will.

No. 339599

>>339594
What are you talking about? One of these pics looks like it was taken in a cafe and plenty of people take coord shots indoors, so strange to assume she doesn't wear them outside just from a few pics. Either way I don't think she got those pieces from scamming, she was selling and not sending those sold pieces.

No. 339600

>>339598
BLACKS? do you have a screenshot?

No. 339699

>>339598
Did she kick your dog too?

No. 339701

>>339538
>>339552
i'd cap it, but it's a lot, so here's an export of the lolibrary stuff
https://mega.nz/folder/QGUyTTSY#DPY0J6qlZlvWNA2PHPL-Ew
i checked and i didn't see anything else milky in her history, neither did the maxicimam person. this was their first conversation.

No. 339721

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>>339701
Is it always like this walking on eggshells in there anon? I'll post some caps from this file, thanks for the upload

No. 339722

>>339721
pretty much, yeah.

No. 339723

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>>339721
Last of it

No. 339726

>>339721
Yes, it's always like that

No. 339750

>>339723
the back to back demands for trigger warnings…. they're fighting over the center of attention like dogs fighting over a scrap of meat.

No. 339759

>>339723
>>339721
After viewing all of the evidence, Isha did nothing wrong

No. 339762

>>339721
Who is Verity? She's such an asshole in this even more than the other girls.

>>339723
Kek RIP to Aiyden, I'm sure she was a hecken dood! How did Styxal not pick up on the sarcasm? These people are thick and I don't just mean their wasitlines.

No. 339765

>>339372
At first I thought she was one of those scammers who use people's payments like loans and eventually refund. But asking for f&f is actually evil. She probably did it because she gets that money without holds and the buyer has no way to get it back easily. They should all collectively call paypal and hope her account and information at least gets permabanned.

No. 339766

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>>339765
Her PayPal.me is still there so PayPal hasn't banned her account yet:
https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/sachies93

I wasn't sure what her pfp references but it's a vintage military patch from the Air Force: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234068735982

No. 339793

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>>339762
idk if she is anyone specifically, all i got for ya anon. she just seems to catalog a lot of JM and ETC, really said nothing similar before.
maybe someone can check mentoring

No. 339820

>>339793
>they/them
That explains it.

No. 339947

>>339385
Oh wow I bought from her and while I did get my shit it was one of the longest times I’ve ever waited for a seller lmao. I also kept getting weird sketchy excuses about why she couldn’t get to the post office(sage your shit)

No. 339950

>>339793
>>339820
I have distanced myself from the lolita community this past decade but why so many girls into it nowadays are "they/them"? It makes no fucking sense. Are they trying to compensate for liking something "feminine" and for girls?

No. 339966

>>339950
Girls wanting to feel special and different and show that “they are different from other girls”. Same phenomena just under a different name.

Also the belief that gender isn’t real/gender is just a feeling that is necessary for transgenders to be valid leads people down the path of “I don’t feel like any gender” which means you end up with people going by she/them and they/them.(sage your shit)

No. 339975

>>339372
>>339551
If it's her, I've spoken to her before quite a few times. She's stated she has thousands of dollars of credit card debt, that probably motivates her scamming.(post proof)

No. 339986

>>339975
She needs to pay her debt instead of hoarding old dresses.
>>339947
What were the excuses?

No. 340137

>>339723
Isha was based for this one ngl

No. 340157

>>340137
Say what you will about her escapades, she has the courage to say what we are all thinking in our heads sometimes. I think having a ton of embarrassing shit exposed just gave her nothing to lose.

No. 340208

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Ursa Major is requiring masks yet again for 2024. Have they not learned that COVID is over? FFS, everyone mostly stopped in mid-2022. They even turned off the comments for the post. Baby Area Comm is cooked and suffering from CDS


Also the watermelon is so performative. Seriously, they don’t want any Jewish lolitas

No. 340210

>>340208
Even the government has finally come out and said there was no scientific basis for masks. This is just pathetic.

No. 340211

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>>340208
So what's the point of not requiring masks across the board? Almost like they realize it's all to showboat and they mean nothing.

No. 340230

>>340208
weren't they requiring vaccines other years as well? it's not surprising. if you don't like it, don't give them your money.

No. 340424

>>340157
I don’t know, my thoughts aren’t that far depraved lol. But yeah, maybe the rest of us don’t get that far because we do have things to lose.

>>340208
Nah, the watermelon’s the only good thing about that poster. The resistance should be supported everywhere.

No. 340443

>>340208
The way her mask is a keffiyeh and fabric masks are even less effective against airborne viruses than surgical ones. This bear is retarded
>>340424
The fuck are you resisting by shopping at a Japanese fashion event?

No. 340444

>>339766
I deleted my original reply because it had more personal info but another name she went by before to be on the lookout for is Sachary Gonzalez.

No. 340514

>>340208
what has a watermelon got to do with being jewish?(sage your shit and learn to google)

No. 340516

>>340514
i almost envy your ignorance, nonna. literally there is a wikipedia article on how the watermelon has become a symbol for palestine. just google it.

No. 340525

>>340424
anyone who goes to the event has probably already seen the gory war videos and watermelon fan art in their social media all year and formed their opinions. The dumb ass keffiyeh bear isn't going to make any new supporters, it's just annoying. Not everything has to be some political grandstanding

No. 340531

>>340525
If people just didn't go to this event or others politically charged like this then it would stop. Anyone going is an absolute tard.

No. 340544

>>340516
Not all of us read lefty social media 24/7
>>340444
You should post the info. She has used 3 different names on PayPal. She will change it to scam again.

No. 340551

>>340544
What all names were used? Does she have multiple accounts or is changing her legal name to avoid detection?

No. 340553

>>340551
Sachary Torres
Sachary Gonzales
Sarahi Torres
Same account I think?

No. 340645

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Just a PSA if anyone copyright reports their pics being on pinterest. I got this email and it tells you her full name. I didn't even post the pin, just saved it from someone else. Be careful because your real name is going to hundreds of random people so just put a fake one if you do copyright claims.

No. 340719

>>340645
That linked account just reposts content so how do you know who it was a picture of? There is no proof of anything here.

No. 340737

>>340719
Proof for what? I recognize the persons name who filed the DMCA. The point i was trying to make is some AGP could have pins of lolitas saved, they file a take down request, then said scrote has their full name now. Better safe than sorry. It's not gossip, just letting others know Pinterest is giving people's whole names out.

No. 340740

>>340208
Even as a more left centric person this mask shit is getting old af. It’s fine if someone themselves is sick with something or for someone with health risks but demanding everyone do it except in certain areas is fucking retarded, especially at this point.

No. 340756

>>340740
who tf cares. this is not milk. sperg somewhere else.

No. 340780

>>340737
You said it tells you her full name, with no context of who you are talking about I thought you were referring to the old school scammer spoken about directly above. If that is the case you should give the full name and proof.

No. 340781

>>340780
Your reading comprehension isn't great. >>340737 is saying she is worried about fellow lolitas filing take downs, because those lolitas may have their full names revealed to AGPs or weirdos who pin their photos on Pinterest. >>340645 isn't going to uncensor the name of some innocent woman who is trying to remove her photos from the internet. The post is unreleated to Sarahi.

No. 340783

>>340781
Why are you typing like you're not the same person kek. This has nothing to do with my reading comprehension, the post was misleading and out of context.(infighting/derailing)

No. 341159

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>>339793
Can't unsee. I'm glad I'm a lonelita, Jesus Christ. The community gets worse and worse with every passing year.

No. 341267

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Has anyone else seen this ? Lovely lor being a morally correct sperging retard as usual get over your 4chan trauma.

No. 341269

>>341267
I refuse to click on her video to figure out what the movie is, can someone give the name of it so we can see what she's rambling about?

No. 341276

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>>341269
Peep "TV" Show. The comments are not on her side. Short breakdown of why people are unhappy with her. She is being super judgmental of people who may need mental health help. Lor admits to only having the movie on while doing other activities like wii fit. Film seems to focus on a neet and hikikomori who commiserate in relation to her interest in fashion . Lor says it's chan like to engage in maladaptive behaviors in relation to mental health issues. Advocates for "boundaries and guidelines" aka censorship in film. It's my opinion she is out of touch with history, Japan's infrastructure or cultural issues in general.

No. 341281

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>>341267
The only reason she thinks it's 4chan related is the uploader's pfp, picrel. She's so stupid it hurts. How could she have had it on in the bg when the film is in Japanese? No wonder she doesn't know what the hells going on.

No. 341282

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>>341281
lors mentions the pic rel review, which is also why she thinks it's a 4chan-tier film.
personally, i'm so tired of lolitas like lor upholding the "lolitas are lovelies uwu" stereotype.

No. 341286

>>341282
Ironic since she exposes minors to NSFW photos on her X, which is not very lovely of her. I guess "Degenerate Lor" doesn't have the same ring to it(tinfoiling)

No. 341307

>>341286
What makes her a kids creator? Being lolita isn't child coded.

No. 341318

>>341267
That’s what happens when you hang out with the fat fucks in her local community. They’re ALL like this. Fucking retards are still insisting on wearing masks at events and cry about “gluten allergies” just from needing to shit after eating a ton of bread and pastries.

No. 341359

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Did anyone catch the original post? I want to see the meltdown comments. When will Chinese brands/scalpers learn we don't like AI?

No. 341383

>>341318
Which comm is she even in?

No. 341537

Remember when lolitas used to give one another shit for going full coord but no makeup, unwashed limp and greasy hair, overgrown brows, etc.? Not even mentioning the bitching about weight and keeping yourself trim so you don't stretch out burando.
It feels like those standards have completely disappeared. Now it's not just zero self-presentation skills and the occasional unplucked upper lip but full on literal beards. For a 'feminine' fashion lolita really seems to attract people who have zero interest in femininity. It's to the point that I think these genderspecial queers are straight up just doing it to be like 'i break da rules! Lol I'm such an edgy troublemaker! Nobody tells me what to do!' with zero thought put into the fact that wearing such an OTT femme fashion as lolita already IS the edgelord act they want to escalate it to.

How far we have fallen.

No. 341538

>>341383
I thought she was a lonelita because she got too much shit from her comm.
Don't quote me on that, tho, it's just a vague memory.

No. 341548

>>341537
It's definitely to show they're NLOG or, in men's case, for their fetish. It's the same reason 'disabled' itas always want exceptions made for no petticoats, normie footwear, no headdress, etc. They want to break the rules of the fashion but still get an in with us. It's a race for them to see who can be the ugliest I swear.

No. 341555

>>341537
This is a great point. Slobby genderspecial low-effort individualism is pretty much the norm now. Putting true effort into a feminine fashion with high standards is a bigger statement. But hyper-individualism is so extreme they don’t even see the purpose of joining in an actual community with shared standards, it’s all about getting to smarmily stick on more daring labels.

No. 341557

>>341548
I would feel some kind of sympathy at least for a girl in a wheelchair but iirc there was one in the early 2010's who got mad props for being disabled AND 'doing the fashion right' so there's really not an excuse in 90% of cases.
It really sucks that there's no way to weed out the shitty people either, or else they complain about discrimination. You can't just invite people who are chill to your sleepover, Karen Mcfrillfest will get peeved because xhe feels excluded even though !News Flash! The exclusion is happening because xhey make themselves insufferable to be around and everyone has to walk on eggshells to accommodate their feelings and 'needs'. It ends up feeling like taking care of an infant instead of hanging out with friends when these people show up. Not fun, not what anyone is there for, but they either don't have the self-awareness to realize this or the respect to consider anyone else's enjoyment of the event.

No. 341560

>>341383
lor was in the SOL comm for a while but hasn't attended a meetup in years.(sage your shit)

No. 341613

>>339762
Some perma ita that just takes up space in a bunch of servers without contributing anything of actual value. Surprised I haven’t seen her here or the ita thread already. She’s the type that dresses bad so to compensate she’s combative and rude to everyone. disagree and she throws a tantrum. Other nonny must’ve spent ages picking decent coords for that reply because the majority of hers are awful. She gives a lot of bad advice in servers too. Annoying enough I left mentoring and some other servers she’s in.

No. 341614

>>339793
Interesting that she purged all her old coords and a bunch of old messages in mentoring after this…(sage your shit)

No. 341619

>>341537
>>341548
>Calling someone an NLOG for not wearing makeup
You guys are retarded kek.

No. 341633

>>341619
lolita is a fashion, you should wear makeup. makeup isn't just for men.

No. 341638

>>341633
Nta but this is a dumb nitpick, 100%. The western gatekeeping of a foreign fashion is so funny. I remember lolitas throwing tantrums about no blouses but then you had japanese girls photographed and published not wearing any in some cottage lolita.

No. 341644

>>341638
I don't even know how else to say this nicely. You know damn well the western lolita community is absolutely overrun with people who look remarkably unkempt, make little effort to coordinate their outfits nicely, and they are usually so overweight they are busting out of the dresses. You know this. You know what type of people that >>341537 is referring to. I'm sure there are some Japanese lolitas who look like fucking shit, but even the fat ones seem to usually be clean and relatively put together. Chinese lolitas wear the same cheap clolita that every western comm is filled to the brim with and usually look nice. Don't play pretend.

No. 341649

>>341638
The difference is there are ways to do these things (no blouse, minimal makeup and hair styling, etc.) that actually work with the style instead of just appearing lazy. Japanese and Chinese lolitas get away with breaking a few "rules" because the rest of the coord is still cohesive and they take basic care of their appearance. The western lolitas being referred to here just break the rules for the sake of being contrarian.
There's so many Japanese lolita streetsnaps out there where they're wearing minimal/natural makeup, but at least their appearance is well-taken care of and they fit the clothes they're wearing.

No. 341651

>>341644
>>341649
thank you. i am not one of those purists anon is bitching about anyway. most lolitas are autistic and don't get how to actually do fashion and make up dumb rules or try to go against perceived rules but both of you explained why certain things are necessary.

No. 341662

File: 1735574988742.png (350.17 KB, 299x500, aiz.png)

>>341633
You can find plenty of pictures of Japanese lolitas wearing little or no makeup, it’s really not as important as you’re making it out to be.

No. 341663

File: 1735575576063.jpeg (38.29 KB, 333x500, image0.jpeg)

>>341649
>Chinese lolitas get away with breaking a few "rules" because the rest of the coord is still cohesive and they take basic care of their appearance
The vast majority of their ‘coords’ are just overly photoshopped trash bags from taobao with overly photoshopped girls who end up looking like aliens.
Just admit you have yellow fever kek

No. 341664

>>341662
Not everything Japanese Lolitas do is automatically perfect so it doesn’t really matter tbh, but this is an odd choice of picture given the girl on the left is wearing at least foundation and lip product, not to mention put a lot of effort into her hair. The girl on the right would look better with a different haircut, not to mention a better coord, but she’s clearly wearing eye makeup too.

No. 341665

>>341649
>>341644
Really just sounds like putting asian people on a pedestal due to looking a way that is appealing even when rules are broken rather than actually caring about cohesiveness. Unkempt is unkempt. Put them in the same fit as a wesrern ita and I guarantee they'd still get praise. It is nitpicking. Move on.

No. 341670

>>341665
Tell me you don't go to lolita comm meetups in real life without actually telling me. Every single comm that I know of right now is completely overrun with obese TIFs with horrible hygiene. There are like 3 to 5 normal looking women in any comm now if you are lucky. If you think it looks good being an obese TIF stuffed into a polyester sack, making zero effort to look put together in a fashion style that emphasizes coordination and femininity, then I fear I may have struck you personally with this observation.
I'm never mean to them, but I don't like seeing them or hanging out with them, and yes, I do think they are doing lolita wrong. I don't care. I see pictures fat asian-american TIFs wearing lolita sloppily all the time, it has nothing to do with race kek.(infighting)

No. 341671

>>341670
This sounds like a personal issue. You might want to use the /g/ thread for random blogposts about fat obese lolitas. >>>/g/208345

No. 341673

>>341671
Good luck with your gender transition.(infighting)

No. 341675

>>341673
This thread is for cows, not random gripes about lolitas overall. I didn't even said anything about TIFs? The /g/ thread is the place for this discussion because this thread and /w/ are for milk from cows.

No. 341678

>>341662
here we go with the zoomer old-school obsession. why not use recent posts from social media instead of decades old magazine snaps.

No. 341682

>>341675
probably doesn't make sense to anyone outside of the west coast comms but this discussion feels like it's very much about local cows that everyone's too chickenshit to post lmao.

No. 341685

>>341682
West coast community mods are all huge cows, what do you expect?

No. 341689

>>341685
the problem is that if anyone names names/posts photos from the groups then those cows are going to act like goddamn martyrs. 'how dare somebody on the internet say i look bad omg my feelings my triggers' etc. and nobody wants to give them that satisfaction, so we're reduced to vagueblogging like a salty ex on facebook circa 2012.
it's actually pretty funny how all of them would swear up and down they never look at image boards but somehow they all seem to find out about it real fast when one of them gets posted and roasted.

No. 341694

>>341663
maybe choose a photo of an actual chinese lolita and not what is very obviously a professional shop photo with a model (that's meant to look costume-y) next time

No. 341695

>>341689
This is an imageboard. Post caps

No. 341696

>>341689
Honestly, it wouldn't be worth it even if that wasn't the case. They'll just come here and derail the entire thread with infighting or some literal who milklet, bury the call out, then make the new thread so it doesn't appear in the recap. Every time an old cow comes up, someone brings up frilledcriminal or discordgate or some other dried up topic before the discussion gets too far. Then we all wonder why we have nothing to talk about.

No. 341698

>>341682
>>341696
Most lolita drama is so niche that people can't post caps without it coming back on them. That's why people are scared to post drama here and only vaguepost.

No. 342003

>>341698
So why keep the thread alive if it’s just gonna be vague stale milk from lolitafags in local comms having pathetic under the table slapfights about the wrong lace trim kekw.

No. 342023

>>342003
every now and then someone like isha appears does something milky and we need somewhere safe to talk about it without having someone have a melty about it, discords are never safe no matter what. I can only hope the gen alpha lolitas are milky, zoomeritas disappoint me.

No. 342025

>>342023
Nta but this website requires caps. If you can't produce milk and can only vaguepost then whats the point? Go to tumblr for that type of shit.

No. 342063

>>342025
it's a legacy thread, really. you can blame the shift to discord and facebook for the milk drying up. it's too easy to get exposed as a farmer, no one wants to risk a ban from IRL comms over milk. all the milk i've seen in the past 3 years has been in private discord servers where it's easy to tell where a leak came from. the cows know it, too. they'll be on best behavior in the public groups, then save the spergouts for the private ones.

No. 342076

>>342063
If anons are too chickenshit to post caps they shouldn't be posting at all. They can go whine in their private discords as well. vague posting here to try to warn the public, on lolcow of all places, about these people is the worst decision. If there is milk in private discords then post it. Don't talk about it and not produce caps on an imageboard.

No. 342077

>>342025
There was a tumblr for it, Discordgatefags tried mass reporting it and tumblr sided with the account owners, but for some reason it stopped getting updated. No one uses LJ anymore and people are too cowardly to use their real accounts like they used to. Dreamwidth admins removed the gossip account there for harassment. Meta is bot moderated so a gossip account on those platforms would probably stay up but again you can't anonymously comment there. Where I'm getting with this is there isn't really anywhere else to post general public drama when it happens like >>342023 says. It's rarer these days but it does happen.

No. 342081

>>342077
Here. Just stop hiding behind vagueposts.

No. 342094

File: 1736169105896.jpeg (82.85 KB, 600x405, IMG_0145.jpeg)

how are you guys so afraid of frilly bitches like seriously what is the consequence youre trying to avoid. like are there serious cunts in the community ruling with an iron fist or something, this vagueness is cringe

No. 342104

>>342094
because some of us still want to attend meets and some of these bully bitches are comm managers. yes it's fucking dumb one or two people have the authority to ban people from an entire comm but it is what it is.

No. 342105

>>342094
dunno if you're being deliberately obtuse, but see:
>it's too easy to get exposed as a farmer, no one wants to risk a ban from IRL comms over milk. […] it's easy to tell where a leak came from.
unfortunately it's not "just the internet," because lolita is an irl hobby that involves your real face and name unless you're a lonelita. even then, as a lonelita, it still affects your ability to sell/buy on places like lacemarket if people find out you're a shitstirrer.

No. 342118

>>342104
>>342105
Nta but we don't care. Lolcow is not here to coddle you from scary frilly cunts. If you have milk, post it. If not, then /w/ is not for you. Might need to try a different board for vagueposting and refusing to post anything milky.

No. 342124

>>342118
are you not aware of what a legacy thread is? you sound like a newfag tourist.

No. 342126

>>342124
Venus Angelic is a legacy cow and anons still had to post caps in her thread. This is a terrible argument.

No. 342135

>>342118
I think a whole nother imageboard or social media platform is in order. if youre that afraid of internet culture that’s a problem on an imageboard that operates with screenshots and milk. god if I was apart of the community id love to know who you guys are just from the amount of whining youre doing.

No. 342136

>>342118
you seem like a tourist so let me explain to you. what seem like vagueposting to you may actually give context to people so they can go check from the source itself. i.e. if I say "y thing is happening in x server/group" if you're in the fashion you can just go there and look. might seem retarded to you and I would think it's retarded if I didn't understand how lolita comms work but we want to preserve our identities and reputation. discordfags who post logs have been outed before. not to say posting caps isn't encouraged. but there might be a situation where posting a cap might not be possible because of proximity to cow. hope you understand and hide the thread after this.

No. 342137

>>342136
You honestly sound more like a cow than the people you're refusing to post about. It doesn't matter if only the people who know should know what is being vagueposted about. That's not how cow boards work. I don't know why you keep calling anon's tourists when you're literally saying the rules shouldn't apply to your posts because this thread is some special exception to save anon's reputations and identities. Absolutely not. Where do you think you are?(infighting/derailing)

No. 342138

>>342137
ok tourist-chan, close the thread and go gorge on milk elsewhere.(infighting)

No. 342142

If posting proof will get you caught then vagueposting will as well. Post proof or do not post at all.

No. 342155

>>342142
i'm open to suggestions if you insufferable losers know how to avoid being identified through discord caps. surely you know how to do this, since you insist it isn't a big deal.

No. 342157

we should make an ita thread on /ot/ or /m/, /w/ is for drama and milk. /cgl/ isn't viable anymore so lolitas should be able to vent on the site but not on this board.

No. 342160

>>342155
wait an appropriate amount of time, change themes, use an export tool; as one of the people that dropped logs during the whole vetted debacle, and some up thread, it's really not that hard to not get caught.

No. 342162

>>342157
But /cgl/ is still active and viable? Ita threads especially. I don't know why you'd want to bring it over here, personally.

No. 342164

>>342162
Nta but last time I tried to post to /cgl/ it was a 800 second timer or wanted me to verify by email. Anyone doing the later is an utter tard and most of us don't care enough to wait 10+ min to post. It's also become a hellscape of coomers over there and lots of tourists asking why something is ita.

No. 342165

>>342160
thanks anon, i'll give it a try.

No. 342196

>>342162
4chan/channel is now a big data selling scam. posting there is not safe for any women anymore.

No. 342204

>>342162
cgl is overrun with tiktokfags, all of the posters are ita themselves

No. 342220

>>342162
Bring what exactly? This site is well suited for that.

No. 342253

This thread is for drama/milk and shouldn't be used as a chatroom. If you do make an ita thread you are welcome to link it here to redirect the discussion, but any further derailing of this thread will be banned.

No. 342315

ita thread >>>/g/466899

No. 342475

File: 1736707359286.png (4.31 MB, 931x3377, plus.size.coords1.png)

I don't know if this suits the cow thread but also can't find a general discussion thread so my bad if one exists. There's an account that popped up that started showing off fat girls' coords. Within a day she's started editing random people's pictures to make them fatter and adding dumb captions. It's really low quality bait but you know how lolitas are.

No. 342481

>>342475
interesting that a lot of the people she's editing have been mentioned here, with nods to their drama. this is definitely a farmer lol.

No. 342482

>>342475
The autism is off the charts. The way the owner of the account types makes me think it's a farmer off their meds or baby's first trolling attempt.

No. 342483

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>>342475
TOPKEK

No. 342484

>>342475
Should have just posted all the ugliest ones without editing them or being as obvious about making fun of them tbh, although they are kind of funny this way anyway

No. 342485

>>342475
Accidental fetish content.

No. 342486

File: 1736713249958.gif (302.97 KB, 220x220, 1000030208.gif)

>>342475
Oh my gosh, the backgrounds!(avatarfagging)

No. 342487

>>342475

never seen a more obvious nat/isha troll attempt in my life. wish retarded itas would stop giving this shit the attention they want.(sage your shit)

No. 342488

File: 1736713648398.png (1.44 MB, 2030x902, plus.size.coords2.png)

>>342482
I don't think anyone that actually posts here would do anything this low effort, though that might be giving the average nona too much credit. Absolutely someone that lurks at least.

No. 342499

>>342481
WF's post even had a screencap of the infamous dog post.

No. 342502

>>342475
This is without a doubt Isha again lol, they type in the same retarded attention seeking way

No. 342503

>>342475
I read somewhere the owner of the account has been outed, does anyone who it is?(read where? post proof)

No. 342505

File: 1736730705891.jpg (71.89 KB, 1080x979, About.jpg)

>>342503
No clue but the account is from 2023 and change the name thats why there is so many followers. If you find out what it was before you will find out who owns it.

No. 342511

>>342475
this is hilarious, I love whoever made this account

No. 342518

>>342502
There's countless lurkers this could be. Isha didn't invent being unhinged.

No. 342553

>>342518
"Going out with a bang" implies she is gonna "leave" the community like Isha threatens to do every 2 months or so

No. 342558

>>342505
ten bucks it's oatmilkchan/Nat

No. 342561

>>342558
I honestly got more DDZ vibes than isha or Nat. Idk, just the way this person types feels more in line with her type of humor.

No. 342570

File: 1736785332240.jpeg (311.26 KB, 1290x718, IMG_8461.jpeg)

>>342558
She basically confirmed it was her, with the claiming to be groomed at 16. Her DMs talking about him that were leaked were the reason she got banned in the first place.

No. 342572

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>>342570
She was also lying in multiple other responses, not to mention identifying as a marginalized arthritic of size, so that just be more bullshitting instead of actual truth.

No. 342574

File: 1736787330444.png (3.03 MB, 1290x2796, IMG_8464.png)

>>342572
It’s just an odd coincidence to carry a torch for these same people after so many years.(not milk, sage)

No. 342576

>>342574
Sage your ancient milk.
At least she's doing something to let men and pedophiles know they aren't welcome in the community.

No. 342577

File: 1736788766202.png (57.28 KB, 528x198, Bio.png)

>>342505
Isha take your meds. Cringe 4chan lain zoomer followers, fat ita and cow obsession, "going out with a bang" bio. She just changed one of her old incel 4chan meme accounts to this for attention >>>/w/299706

No. 342579

>>342558
Would it really be nat tho? Nat and Isha aren’t involved with lolita anymore. It’s a drag to even bring them up to something irrelevant. From prior threads, that Dallas girl Alyssa birds.symphonia and Rosequartsroyalty have been clutching pearls for the longest, starting drama with each other.

No. 342581

>>342579
Isha was in the lolibrary discord drama just two months ago, she is definitely still involved
>>338327

No. 342647

>>342558
they both have EDs so it checks out the anti fat rage

No. 342659

>>342475
She has plenty of actual fat uggos with bad personalities she could post. The edits are unnecessary

No. 342660

>>342659
she is focusing on well known people because the fat uggos are nobodies and wouldnt get as much attention

No. 342674

>>342475
Pls do Cadney and Voldie next. I want to see them post more

But I wished they used AI instead of these horrid shoops

No. 342739

>>342674
Why would AI make this any better? Unhinged take

No. 342793

looks like the plus.size.coords account has been deleted.

No. 342794

File: 1737058780250.jpeg (570.94 KB, 1179x2156, IMG_7771.jpeg)

>>342793
No it hasn’t. Going after sissies and troons in lolita now.

No. 342802

>>342794
Did she and Melissa have a fallout resulting in her being kicked out of her basement for her to act so erratic?

No. 342833

>>342802
if you think calling out creepy men in a women's fashion is erratic, you're part of the problem

No. 342834

>>342833
nta but it is kind of erratic. no one was defending troons, the switch is just drastic.

No. 342859

>>342794
Are there any other "call out" accounts for lolita/jfashion right now? The old ones posted here are deleted.

No. 343084

>>339372
I wasn't going to post this but fuck it
I lent her money in 2023 for a dress, and she has not paid me back and is refusing to pay me back or send me the dress and has blocked me on discord.
I have sent her a letter via certified mail demanding repayment or I will take her to court. It is in the mail currently, but delayed. I have paperwork to take her to court ready to go and will make sure she gets it.
Mainly posting this here because I think she still reads here and is ignoring me everywhere else. I will NOT let this go.(post proof)

No. 343086

>>343084
Damn this is abysmal, good luck nonna. I hope you get your money back.

No. 343088

>>343084
Nonna, I sincerely hope you win but it was retarded of you to lend her $1k so she could buy Hospitality Doll.

No. 343090

>>343084
Post proof

No. 343091

>>343084
>>343088
So this pink Hospitality Doll isn't even bought with her own money? >>339551

No. 343092

>>343088
I didn't say what dress it was or how much money it was…

No. 343094

>>343088
You are brutally retarded for posting this

No. 343095

>>343090
with all of the people who came forth about being ripped off by her in various ways this isnt something unbelievable at this point

No. 343096

>>343095
Nayrt, it is not unbelievable but >>343084 said she sent her mail and knows that she's a farmer. She will realise who she is either way so she may as well go all in and post some caps exposing her since others who have interacted with her like >>339947 and >>339975 won't. This has been the only interesting milk ITT but everyone is too scared to commit.

No. 343099

>>343084
Is her credit so bad that she can't just put it on credit? anyone asking a friend to help fund their shopping addiction is bad news imo

No. 343101

>>343099
she probably didn't pay off her credit card debt so it ruined her credit, so she can't get another card to keep buying stuff so she turned to borrowing and scamming

No. 343107

>>343095
Post proof if you are going to say you had personal stakes in this too. No one is asking about other people. You're blogposting.

No. 343109

>>343107
Right like for everyone claiming they got scammed no one is posting screenshots, her paypal link is still active, she's not blacklisted, people only coming forward after a mod announced her ban. It all feels very manufactured.

No. 343121

>>343101
Isha did the same thing.
I remember she owed up to 600$ to a girl in a server I was in. She kept borrowing money from people and it escalated until she was threatened with a lolsuit. I believe she paid it back since. Why are so many lolitas so scammy and lazy just get a job or two.(post proof)

No. 343124

>>343107 yall seem to be missing the point she literally said it was posted for the scammer to see since shes blocked everywhere else. yall are so dense.

No. 343137

>>343121
Kek why would someone lend a teenager with a rich family $600? Expensive hobbies always have scammers. People are dumb to not protect themselves.

No. 343152

>>343121
Post proof of the discord or anyone from the discord who admitted they took money, add time stamps and everything. Seriously, newfags, you need to stop saying things happened and actually post concrete proof it did.

>>343124
There is no point aside from no one should believe you unless you post caps.

No. 343159

File: 1737656156405.jpg (178.31 KB, 1080x2128, 1000008211.jpg)

>>343124
Like this person said, my message was just for the scammer. But since yall asked nicely heres my proof

No. 343162

>>343159
Is this you? >>340553 I'm trying to find her real name anywhere outside of these personal interactions and I can't. If she doesn't go by her real name anywhere except for needing it due to payment methods, you might've just doxxed her. Just a heads up.

No. 343163

>>343162
Nta but it's not doxing if it's public info >>339766
The link is public for anyone to see her name.

No. 343164

>>343163
Dumb of her not to rotate her name around more or stop using similar names.

No. 343165

>>340553
yeah >>343164 the duplicates kind of give it away. does anyone have dates for which of >>340553 is the earliest name used? chances are thats her actual name before she started going by similar aliases.

No. 343170

File: 1737661476690.jpeg (80.67 KB, 805x666, CapsConfirmOP.jpeg)

>>340553
Not OP but a friend who is very familiar with the situation. This is a private conversation that I had with the scammer telling her that she needs to pay back loans and refund people. Obviously it's been 3 months and no one including OP has heard from her. I'm posting this in hopes that more people will come forward with their caps because this isn't some "fabricated story". She scammed a ton of people and everyone deserves their money back or their items.

No. 343171

>>343170
Same anon. I get that no one wants to post caps because you don't want to be outed as a LCFs user or have her know that you posted her. But it's been months now and it's AT LEAST 15 - 20 people that she scammed and thousands of dollars (in money or brand) that she owes. And I bet that she hasn't even tried to reach out to any one of you about it and she's just ignoring you also.

No. 343172

I'm curious how many other people were scammed and for how much. It's very possible that we could pursue a joint action lawsuit against her. It's basically a class action but for fewer people with similar complaints. In her jurisdiction, if she loses, she would likely be responsible for the legal fees.(not your personal army)

No. 343177

File: 1737666494387.jpeg (658.3 KB, 3170x3460, IMG_1009.jpeg)

Unfortunately this is not manufactured in any way but I wish it was. I am another person she did this to.

No. 343179

>>343109 there are caps posted from 6 people from the old school server >>339372 and these are only the people posted about it in chat there are others who i know who didnt say anything. then these caps
>>343159
>>343170
>>343177
im really doubting this is manufactured

No. 343180

>>343088
Way to tell on yourself kek

No. 343182

File: 1737673231776.jpg (401.86 KB, 1080x1080, decaycaps.jpg)

This is not manufactured. She has stolen thousands of dollars from multiple different people. She befriended many members of the discord server to gain their trust, I believe purely for the intention of scamming and hurting others. It is truly crazy how long it went on before anyone caught onto her scamming. The reason people are only coming forward after she was banned is because alot of those people thought they were the only ones having this experience, Decay had also made it know they were having issues in their personal life, which gave a good excuse for not shipping items. Because she was so friendly with many members, I assume many wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt and trusted her and therefore didn't speak out about it earlier.
I was going back on our conversation to get caps and noticed she deleted a message sometime after I filed a paypal claim, that makes me think it might be a real name. I wonder if her fiance was in on her scamming.
I was a lucky one that got back their money, but many haven't.

No. 343187

>>343182
Thanks for posting this. I unfortunately wasn’t able to get my money back because I sent it friends and family.(sage your shit)

No. 343188

>>343165
>>343162
I bought something from her in early 2024, actually did receive it without issue (which is crazy considering it was from a /bst/ on cgl) and she was using this name as well. The fact that I received my package makes me think the pattern of behavior hadn't started yet.

No. 343191

>>343188
What item was it?

No. 343195

>>343193
So >>343159 lent her money in November 2023, and she still couldn't pay any of it back all of 2024, despite selling stuff since early 2024. Some of you are too patient and kind for your own good, and she took advantage of that. I hope everyone gets their money or items back.

No. 343197

>>343195
Yes. I had typed another post but deleted bc I forgot to post sage. She was always updating her pinterest and I saw her selling things to other people while still owing me my item. I’m not sure if she acquired new things through purchase while still owing the money to the previous OP, but it’s really likely based on her pinterest, which has now been deleted kek

No. 343201

>>343197
It's not deleted, just private. She must have blocked you literally everywhere.

No. 343203

>>343197
>>343201
Whats her pinterest?

No. 343204

>>343197
>>343188
Post caps please. This isn't milky just hearing about it.

No. 343206

File: 1737699059762.png (882.93 KB, 1500x1500, 1277816276.png)

The scamming done by Sachary goes further than scamming those from trades and sales. My relationship with Sachary was very close, she let me in on a lot with her ‘situation’ and I have no idea where her lies start or end. The screenshots provided show my conversations with Sachary regarding both OP >>343084 and “Girl 2” listed in my screenshots who is >>343177


Both of these girls were scammed, I knew the loan was taken out but due to Sachary confiding in me that her boyfriend was abusing her, threatening his life and her life with guns they owned, how they got into car wrecks and were out of jobs, and countless other things, I stayed by her side trusting her. She told me she wanted to pay her off but couldn’t, leading me to send her money as shown on multiple cases, via zelle or paypal, hoping to help her financially like internet bills, food, utility etc.., to leave her situation, and pay off OP. Girl 2 was different, many lies were told and I was under the assumption it was sent and refunded, later finding this to be a lie.

Sachary, like >>343182 stated, deleted a lot of messages. I was told on occasions to delete my own messages in fear that her boyfriend would see them and get upset with her. Hundreds of messages have been deleted but enough remain to show the narrative. She was desperate, wanted to leave but couldn’t due to money, her life was at risk and she had nowhere to go. I attempted to get her to contact Catholic organizations and Safe Places but she refused. I offered her (and others) to drive her and take her where I live to stay with me, but she refused. She told me she had recordings and proof of the abuse, asking me to upload them into google drives to save them for the police, but she never sent them to me but kept bringing them up, it made me believe her as I awaited emails. Obviously there's a reason she refused to be helped and why I never got these recordings.

This went on for months, I tried to help her and received desperate texts weekly and sometimes daily, she would tell me how she wanted to commit suidide and self harm. We did have normal conversations like normal friends too, I wrote her letters and sent things to her, and she was trustworthy in my eyes, people have met her IRL before and known her for years. This all seemed to happen suddenly last year, the scamming came out in a small group chat and I assumed it was a problem JUST between friends, until Sachary was banned from the Old School lolita server and it seemed 15+ people were also scammed. That was the last day she contacted most people including me, but was still seen viewing instagram stories weeks after and can still be seen active on her LastFM account.

No. 343207

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No. 343208

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>>343207
>>343206
I’d be interested to know if others were told such detailed accounts of abuse, if I really had this “close” relationship with her. I know she sent some of these pictures to others, people have seen her face but won’t post, for someone who tries to hide their face and online presences she's quite known. She has many personas and fakes who she is when she's with different groups, she is not right in the head.

No. 343209

>>343208
Absolutely insane of her to beg people for money when she's sitting in her bed surrounded by what's easily a few thousand dollars of brand.

No. 343213

>>343209
She was selective about who she showed information to. In some friend circles, she would brag and flex, and in others she hid the extent of her collection.

No. 343215

>>343206
OP here, she also told me she was being abused and claimed a supposed video of her fiancé's uncle somehow proved this. I never saw the video or asked for it, I didn't believe her because of the information that came out from the old school server. She also said she didn't want anyone to know about the abuse because she was embarrassed, but I think she actually told a lot of people as an excuse and told them not to tell.
>>343195
When I gave her the loan I told her to pay it back in six months. I didn't really pay attention to her buying or selling or care, I didn't have a reason to think she wouldn't pay it back eventually. A lot of her friends she scammed were people she knew irl or talked on the phone with. She also had a long history of giving friends deals and gifts and basically just being a normal person and friend. Then she randomly went fucking insane and did all of this.

No. 343222

>>343215
Yeah…. I am the girl who she was talking about in the screenshots and the one who posted the other earlier screenshots involving the blouse. She told everyone my bf scammed her YEARS ago, my bf runs an actual business and allegedly forgot to send her a shirt she purchased from him (likely through no official source that he was selling from, since they were friends) and he had forgotten to send it. What she didn’t mention to anyone or me when she first brought it up was that he eventually compensated her with MULTIPLE shirts. She tried to use this against me when I confronted her about not shipping, while conveniently revealing the fact that the situation was actually dealt with later on. I was scared to talk about it for awhile because she was my friend and I wanted to think nothing bad was actually going on. She never told me anything about her personal situation, just ghosted me in DMs and never came to me to give me updates about the shipping situation. I didn’t even care that I lost out on money, I was upset about how it was handled, which I told her. Also, I gave her about 5 months of grace before I started digging deeper on this issue, I feel like that’s fair enough…

No. 343227

>>343215
She can be a scammer and still actually be in an abusive relationship. Women, even when offered help multiple times, don't often leave abusive relationships until they are ready. This person might suck but I don't think it's right to say the abuse isn't real. With this context it makes sense that she's dug herself into a hole.

No. 343228

>>343213
WOW. This is so real. As a 'good friend' I never knew she had so much burando. I definitely wasn't her flex friend, I was a sob story sympathy friend.

No. 343229

>>343227
as someone who knows her very well it turns out she lied constantly about all sorts of things small and large. she would be very vague, there was always an excuse and things never seemed to add up. and the only people she told her abuse stories to are people who made a higher income and were likely to be generous… thats kind of telling. she didnt even tell people who were her supposed bffs.

No. 343230

>>343215
According to property records the house she lives in belongs to his aunt and uncle, she lied about that. This is why the uncle would come in without their consent which she claimed upset her. It's his own house, he can come in when he likes.

No. 343232

>>343227
It's not 2019 anymore, we're not still doing this "believe all women" shit.

No. 343235

>>343232
yeah… if she was honest with most of us, we would have been glad to help us out i’m sure. she didn’t have to scam people out of their items. it’s honestly not an excuse in this situation. some of us tried to give her outs to which she did not take. obviously it’s not always that simple, but it doesn’t change the fact that she grossly mishandled this situation and did shitty things

No. 343236

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>>343208
The irony of sitting on thousands of dollars of brand while scamming "friends" and having them give you money from their paycheck every month…

No. 343237

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>>343207 looking back she was always sketch and deleting accounts/making new accounts. she always had multiple personal hardships occurring at any given moment. i dont think ive ever known someone who had such a bad life where something devastating would happen on a weekly basis for years on end. makes me wonder how true this stuff is >>343207 or any of it for that matter. since it was all just words exchanged over discord and anyone can say anything. i lent her money also that was never paid back and this was over 3 years ago now. after over a year and hearing constant woe is me i said dont bother paying me back since i figured it would never happen anyway and i just wanted to be kind to her in her ongoing hardships. here are caps saying she was going to sell stuff to pay me back. obviously that never happened and she clearly had the money to be buying >>343208 all sorts of old, sought after and expensive brand in the meantime. seeing this photo for the first time now.

No. 343239

>>343236
what does "she doesn't even own" the pieces mean? like she just borrows them? wtf is happening in the old school community

No. 343241

>>343239
It's not that deep anon lol, friends borrow pieces from friends. At least ones you can trust. Neocynical Princess might be a broke brandwhore but is she lying to people for years and stealing their paychecks?

No. 343242

>>343241
the screencap was confusing in context, i thought neocynical was offering borrowed pieces for trade or something.

No. 343243

>>343236
She would shit talk anyone over anything. This is pretty ironic though.

No. 343244

>>343227
OP here, I'll add more context, it was not just the OS scamming but talking to mutual friends and realizing a lot of things she said were lies and didn't add up. I have already been tricked by her multiple times, I think I would be foolish to take her word for this

No. 343245

>>343236
Yeah, this is her MO, she got all her rare pieces from scamming and debt and then bragged about how she's better than other lolitas. Now everybody knows she didn't earn any of it. She scammed her friends and burned every connection she had in the lolita community just so she could sit alone in a dark room and take shitty photos of herself. I hope it was worth it Sachary you fucking retard.

No. 343246

>>343244 im kind of with you on this one. im same anon from this cap >>343237
>>343227 i heard so many lies and endless sob story hardships from her its just hard to believe anything she has said at this point

No. 343247

>>343228
I was also a "rich sob story friend" and I never saw the photo of her on the bed with all the brand and she never shared her pinterest even when I was asking. The only time I saw her wardrobe was when she posted like a shitty rack with not much on it or when she wore something. I wasn't in the old school server where I think she was doing most of this.

No. 343248

>>343206
The deleting messages is bizarre along with her username changes. It's like she doesn't want people to corroborate things and put stuff together and make it harder to track what she's been doing. I was in a group chat with her and she kept on pressuring me to auto delete all of the messages on a weekly basis. I never did because I thought this request was peak schizo behavior and I like being able to look back on old memes and coords etc. But now it seems like she was just wanting to try and cover up her lies and conflicting stories.

No. 343249

>>343246
Yes and I'll also add that at this point she was saying to people she didn't have a phone or internet and wasn't seeing messages but she was still posting in other discords. It's just lie after lie with her. I'm really glad we're finally talking about it.

No. 343250

>>343152
I left the discord in 2022 and didn't exactly think about collecting proof of every single happening before hopping. So it's a source:trust me dude situation. All I'll say is that there were several involved because she went to e-beg left and right. Lending money to her was retarded in any case she is and has always been irresponsible and spoiled.

No. 343253

>>343208

the brand pic makes me sick fr knowing how badly she took advantage of people all the while hiding this what a pos

No. 343254

>>343243
One of my favorites was her trash talking her mom for buying shitty clothes at tjmaxx when she had no money. But somehow, buying fancy dresses when you have no money is fine.

No. 343255

>>343237
this lol. i would ask her questions about herself which she would just entirely ignore. i’ve asked friends how many pieces they have and she’s dmd me privately to tell me she has almost 90 dresses… why not just tell everyone? does anyone else know how many she has / has she ever told anyone?(post proof)

No. 343258

>>343250
Surely someone can corroborate this very real story. Surely this is not just the Isha vendetta poster again.

No. 343260

>>343255
come to think of it nonny she did similar things to me i would ask her questions that she would straight up ignore i always disliked that about her it was really difficult to get the full story and the details were never complete it was like she intentionally would leave things out so she could change things as needed(post proof)

No. 343261

>>343258
No one care about this old crusty stale milk from years ago. The old school scammer is the milkiest thing to happen in months.

No. 343263

File: 1737741165904.png (9.2 MB, 1242x2208, IMG_9228.png)

Here's another picture of her

No. 343264

>>343258
Vendetta or no vendetta would we really be surprised that a lolita who whored herself out to 4chan scrotes for brand would scam her friends for brand as well? Not the first time and not the last with the OS nuts LARPing as Momoko. Sweets and old schools need to be studied for their sociopathic tendencies.

No. 343266

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>>343255
She has at least 136 main pieces as of 6 months ago.

No. 343268

>>343266
I suspect she keeps things on here after she's sold them though. She sold a lot. Still, it's a lot more than she admitted to anyone.

No. 343269

>>343245
tru. what is the point of having all of it and not being able to share in her hobbies with her mates. how lonely and pathetic.

No. 343271

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Since it's gone past scamming, this girl is genuinely a terrible person and it started years ago but since nobody talked badly about her it wasn't pieced together until recently. I had to block her Oct 2023 and left mutual servers because of her behaviour so limited caps but here's another for proof I know her along with >>343236

For years she's played sides with her friends and changed her personality based on who she's with and was always very selective with replies, often just ignoring questions. She turns people against one another with lies in DMs like above, has posted "friends" without consent while terrified to get posted herself, befriended people in the oldschool server to get access to cheap brand and make fun of them like above, begged for a mod position in a friends-only discord server and for its admin to implement a bot that auto deleted messages, shared screenshots from that server often but kicked people for even mentioning the name of her own server, blocks her friends on her alt socials so we won't know about them, and would check my socials and get others to after I blocked her. She's genuinely mentally ill.

She also said her bf knows about this thread and would make her stop talking to people if she got posted again. All while she was self-posting to the cgl good coords thread kek. When called out for self-posting she still refused to private her public twitter because she wouldn't gain more followers. She wants recognition and attention badly and envies those who do have it. As you can see she lies about having internet access by her last.fm and while sitting on discord which requires a fucking internet connection. She clearly has the money to pay people back, she's sitting on it. She might be a victim of abuse but you can see why with all the lies it's hard to believe. That's one story of hers I hope is a lie. Most of who she did this to she met in person before and talked to regularly on the phone. OP who lent her $ for brand had no reason to think she wouldn't be paid back, no one who got scammed did because we'd bought/sold to her many times in the past without issue.

No. 343275

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to make matters worse, i found out that what i bought from her she got for only 35$

No. 343276

>>343208
Her build and the guns… Is this ESL-chan from >>243119 ? Sorry if it's tinfoiling, but can anyone confirm my hunch?

No. 343278

>>343271
If her bf reads this thread i hope he talks her to pay me the fuck back before I take her stupid ass into court. I already reported her to the police department and am looking into a private investigator to look into her and serve her the court papers so she can't pretend she didn't get them. The more she waits the worse this is going to get for her. She still has all the items, she has thousands of dollars in brand and she could settle this all tomorrow if she really wanted to but she wants to steal people's money instead.

No. 343279

>>343271
im shocked how psychotic and pathological she is she was so sweet in the old school discord

No. 343280

>>343278
no doubt her boyfriend is in on it. she used his paypal account when scamming >>343182
does anyone have a pic of that account? the posts mentioned his name is greg

No. 343287

>>343276
Yes, Sachary is ESL chan. Notice how >>343271 said “if she got posted again.”
She was caught self posting on 4chan and being part of LOC in a previous post where her IG and Twitter were leaked. >>301643
There’s also another post with links to archived posts of coords she posted to CGL. >>301846

No. 343288

>>343286
>>343287
Are they though? I feel like this would've been figured out years ago.

No. 343289

>>343287
Different anon, but I remember her panicking once about getting posted to /cgl/ when it was just a coord photo with her face blocked out from Instagram that someone reposted. I never knew about esl chan or put it together. I think she just hates not being in control of what is posted where, I don't know why she posts herself to cgl all the time but if someone else does it she loses her mind and starts deleting things everywhere.

No. 343290

>>343286
She’s ruining cute coords by being a degenerate. Why do so many women that empathize with racist incels like this fashion? It’s embarrassing for them and makes them look trans when they are posed up with guns

No. 343291

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>>343276
Yes she is ESL-chan and hid from most people in the old school server that she is a LOC member
Her CGL self posts
>>301846

No. 343292

>>343291
*WAS a LOC member.

No. 343293

>>343291
Bottom left looks like the same gun in >>243119

No. 343295

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No. 343296

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>>343280
She was using her fiances Paypal [redacted] to scam. Picrel he's in the middle and other LOC members on the right >>257397(doxxing)

No. 343298

>>343296
is it safe to assume that the people posting screenshots are likely members of LOC?

No. 343300

>>343295
She's trying to be white and fit in with the 4chan incel edgelords so bad kek. Old schoolers are the worst yet again. Prayers for the nonnies who got scammed by her and I hope you drag her to court successfully.

No. 343302

>>343298
Just to clarify loc hasn't been a thing in quite a while. Anyone who still talked to her wasn't supportive of her joining the os server. Some people stopped talking to her altogether because she seemed sketchy by doing that. No one was aware of what she was doing. She acted completely alone. She also scammed people she knew from loc during this same time. A couple of the people who came forward here are her former friends from loc. The girls who were part of loc made some dumb troll posts but they don't scam their friends. They also don't keep posting their friends photos to image boards. That is presumably other people she scammed doing that, which I can understand them doing because there are a lot of people upset by her lies and thieving.

No. 343303

>>343298
She was in a lot of smaller discord groups. I can think of at least 3 she was in that weren't LOC or OS.

No. 343304

>>343302
This reads like damage control. Chill out LOC chan.

No. 343306

>>343295
Kek. Melissa, isha, and Deedeezeta must be so proud :) That entire group is nothing but a bunch shittards in the Egl community.(emoji)

No. 343307

>>343304
Great observation. It literally is damage control… people who were also victims of hers (see caps) don't want to be associated with her henious behavior.

No. 343308

>>343295
the process church necklace oh god she’s edgy. her last fm page is ridiculous too kek. is this what happens when your brain stops developing after 17

No. 343310

ffs can you faggots quit infighting & get back to the old school scammer & people coming forward with what happened

No. 343393

>>342475
Why is my pure innocent usakumya being used for this filth(sage your shit)

No. 343493

>>343306
what if her shirt actually says 'grape' and her sweater is just covering the G.

No. 343494

>>343493
Are you retarded? Just zoom in and you'll see that there are no other letters

No. 343498

>>343493
even if it did, the whole point of the photo is to make it look like it says rape.

No. 343674

File: 1738356101506.jpeg (525.04 KB, 828x1462, IMG_1539.jpeg)

So Is Lolita Collective getting kicked out for not paying their rent? There’s no way a landlord can randomly get you out unless something happened where the renters broke contract.

No. 343677

>>343674
You're reaching for milk. In the US, a landlord can end a lease with no renewal by simply not renewing it, as long as it's notfue to discrimination or retaliation. They don't have to specify a reason, as long as they provide the required notice, which it sounds like they did, judging by their reel.

No. 343678

>>343674
That's a lot of blame on her when there isn't any indication this is true? This feels like scummy landlord sold lots honestly.

No. 343680

>>343674
They're located in an outdoor mall alongside some bigger national brands, so maybe another business wanted the space and is willing to pay more for it? But from google maps it looks like there are several empty storefronts in that mall if the landlord wanted more tenants. It's not out of the question that they did something annoying and are getting kicked out.

No. 343681

>>343678
How is the landlord scummy? They did give her a notice to vacate and gave the shop owner other locations for rent. It seems like another shop is taking over, so they’re telling her to be out for another shop taking over, or maybe they’re selling the shopping center lot. The landlord did nothing wrong here. You can check the deets on her GoFundMe, where she's asking for 5k.

No. 343687

>>343674
They probably couldn't pay rent like KSK. Opening an independent lolita store in the middle of nowhere US isn't a winning business model.

No. 343689

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>>343674
Why post this when the video you got the screenshot off says the owner just decided not to renew the lease and they're not behind on payments? https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFgGwv0Sxdq/ This can happen to anyone renting whether it's commercial space or their apartment. You must be bored manufacturing easily disprovable "milk"

No. 343690

>>343674
Who cares tbf, its all fatty indie brand and markup taobao anyways.(sage your shit)

No. 343692

>>343680
My money is on they did something annoying. Come on. Lolita Collective is suddenly 'worker's owned' and then this happens? It suggests someone in the hierarchy was acting out. [/tinfoil] but the timing is sus.(tinfoil)

No. 343707

>>343674
Funny this happens after a particular one from KC gets more involved with it. She jumps from business to business and each ends up a failure. Her lifestyle doesn’t seem to ever take a hit from it either.(sage your shit)

No. 343708

>>343707
This isn't your Discord chat, you can namedrop here.

No. 343710

>>343239
That's just the old school community. They are all paycheck to paycheck/in debt to impress each other over who has the most dresses that appeared once in a niche foreign magazine that came out before they were born.

No. 343713

>>343692
>workers owned
This has got to be some kind of scam, right? I've seen a few workers owned businesses, but usually it's food, not a niche jfashion business that's unsustainable.

No. 343814

>>343708
KKKristen and her gang

No. 343821

>>343707
interesting. what other failed businesses was she involved in?? sounds milky. spoonfeed a nonny pweeze.

No. 343841

>>342475
>despite being a minor
>beckattack
they got me, I kek'd

No. 344140

File: 1739187459018.jpeg (567.11 KB, 1284x1102, IMG_5335.jpeg)

Does anyone know more about this?

No. 344144

>>344140
>makes public statement of her relationship like shes in congress
>Admits DV is involved (bc why else would you talk about physical safety)
>”Please don’t ask me about it or harass the person I just stated was an abuser tysm uwu”
Everytime with these people

No. 344148

>>344144
Have some compassion. When DV victims leave they fear retaliation. She's probably worried that if the scrote gets harassed, he'll hurt and blame her. It seems they were both involved in the (church) community so it makes sense to publicly confirm the divorce. This message is for the people who know her IRL, not anons. I admit I don't know this cow and she really could be a crashout attention seeker using her divorce for BPD points. But this mentality is common because it's based in fear and anyone who's courageously leaving her abuser will feel afraid

No. 344150

>>344140
This is really sad, probably why she was/is an ironic alcoholic. I hope she resumes her activities once she's safe from the scrote
>>344148
Kek yes, the whole point of a marriage is everyone in your community knows who you're with, so it makes sense to let people close to you know you're divorced

No. 344151

>>344144
Mte anon, mte

No. 344153

>>344148
the church is a dallas industrial club lol

No. 344158

>>344148
If that's the case she wouldn't bring it up at all because that's all most abusers need to go off. She brings it up to get sympathy and pity points, keeps it vague so she has plausible deniability, and tells people not to bother the ex so they don't get the other side of the story she's not telling you
>t. seen this scam many times

No. 344170

>>344158
There's an actual fake abuse scammer (Sahari) upthread who scammed at least 4 different people out of hundreds/thousands of dollars for "safety" and way more with regular scamming, then blowing it on dresses with dozens of caps backing it up. Why are you choosing to tinfoil about someone else with 0 proof or caps

No. 344172

>>344170
nta but some of you are gonna get scammed and manipulated over and over again huh? good luck

No. 344173

>>344172
#BelieveAllWomen kek

No. 344176

>>344173
"One woman lies so that makes all women liars"
Absolute moid behavior of these pick mes. People have suspected something was going on with Tyler and her Nigel for a while. It was discussed in previous threads when she was posting about men being shitty and to not ruin yourself for men. I'm not surprised he's like every other male and is violent towards women.

No. 344192

>>344148
Yeah cause an abuser would see their spouse calling them out for physical violence and totally be cool with it because “she told people not to harass me”. Thats not how they operate, it’s why mentioning it in the PSA is supremely retarded and makes it hard for me to take her seriously over her supposed “safety”, I’m not the anon saying she’s lying btw, just that the way shes going about it lets me know she isn’t actually worried for her life as much as shes worried about public perception lmao. Its FB, she wrote the statement like people who do not know her will read, at that point just text your actual friends and support system about it, you’re not a public persona, just a person in a community.

No. 344194

>>344192
That’s a good point, it’s kind of weird to write those things publicly rather than just saying she’s having to take some time away or something. I would think an abusive man would be equally pissed by the post she made just as he would be if it called for others to actively harass him. Either way it’s calling him out to the public when she could have easily made it a limited status for close friends and family.

No. 344195

>>344194
It is a dangerous choice that could easily lead to retaliation on his part if it is as dire as she’s made it sound.

No. 344202

>>344192
Ia but also, if you read it carefully, she never actually accused him of anything. She says "prolonged duress," which could mean anything, it could mean they argued too often. She then says she worries for her safety at events, but she doesn't say it's from him. She could just as well mean from a friend of his or someone else. Everybody gets the impression there's spousal abuse from this message, but she never actually said that there is.

No. 344208

>>344176
Point is considering her alcoholism she probably also perpetuated abuse, physical or mental or emotional. I doubt it's all him like she is posturing.

No. 344209

>>344192
There are nuances to abuse, she's not in a situation where she fears for her life (otherwise she'd lay low) but might be seriously afraid because of shitty behavior or occasional violence. If a man who's noticeably stronger than you swings at you once or regularly threatens you, you'll be scared for a while even if there's little to no chance he'll kill you. Anyone who's in a stressful situation for long enough will have a really heightened sense of fear and it's not rare for abused or stalked women to publicly talk about what is happening to them, to make sure people know what's up in case something serious goes down. Weird how you can't understand this
>>344202
Yup it could be a dire situation for reasons that aren't entirely related to her ex

No. 344256

>>344140

>> heavy drinking

>> sudden change in appearance
>> silent on Patreon for a year solid
>> bisexual flag appearing in videos

It felt like something was up. When she dyed her hair, I wondered if she'd divorced him already.

I like Tyler and I hope she finds her footing. It's possible that there's no physical abuse, but that her man was a typical moid leech and she's been juggling all household responsibilities, and finally has had enough.

No. 344257

>>344176
there has been a heck of a lot more women that lie than just one. dont be so naive nonny.

No. 344258

>>344202 Clearly she is alluding to him whether she outright states it or not. Every person who reads this has been lead to believe it's him. Not sure I believe the abuse is real, but she sure wants everyone who sees this to believe that.

No. 344279

>>344257
you know who also lie a lot? moids. I'd rather believe a woman than a man at any day. women may lie but it's men killing us and not the other way around. I have no empathy for moids who get divorced, not snap and harass/kill your ex is like the bare minimum and many still fail.

No. 344342

>>344140
Is she referring to her camera man boyfriend or someone else?

No. 344408

>>344140
In her last LWLN video, she specifically showed a picture of a baby doll when talking about getting rid of anything that stands between yourself and happiness. I had always figured that there was something personal there. I wonder if he tried to make her have children.

No. 344445

>>344257
Why are you obsessed with women lying about domestic abuse nonnie? I would always rather believe a woman than a moid. Did you bandwagon when Depp was lying about Amber Heard too?(sage your shit/derailing)

No. 344453

>>344194
I think it's an accountability thing, where she's putting it out there so that there's no question that he's responsible if he hurts her again. Yeah, abusive men don't like when you publicize their abuse, but it can act as a safeguard in some respects because the moids are being scrutinized more closely.

No. 344637

>>343814
You still lurk?



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