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For the nonnies who kept asking for a Calli threadpic.
>>431411Compared to Advent where I had a lot of initial interest but couldn't get into any of them, I was totally lukewarm to Justice when they debuted but they all grew on me over time. I think Cece is the only one I don't watch a lot of but even then I think she's still a good addition to Holo.
Raora unexpectedly really funny, and Liz has evidently been a huge hit with the female fanbase, aside from the sheer vocal talent she brings.
But Gigi was the big surprise for me. I was super turned off by both her model and her debut but she's my favorite in the gen now and likely my second favorite in EN after my oshi. I love how fun she is and the way she seems to get along with just about anybody. Several members of EN have admitted to being obsessed with her and I can totally see why.
No. 432049
love the threadpic, thanks nonna.
>>432038i am one of those fans. it really doesn't feel like her anymore
>>432045i have to actually seriously watch one of them. i liked liz' debut but i think that's about all i saw
No. 432053
>>432049Shilling Gigi specifically, her birthday stream was really creative and fun.
She's honestly great in any collab, though. I got into her through her strong performances in both the AmeSame Spelling Bee and ENReco.
No. 432283
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nonnas i want to be a vtuber but will i even have a chance to grow an audience without pandering to insufferable unicorns?
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Alleged leaks of DMs with Twisty from NijiEN are circulating
No. 434603
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Hello nonas.
Apologies for the incoming autism as this has become somewhat of a fixation but I also wanted to ask if any other US anons engaged with the Round1 x Hololive collab? I was quite honestly really put off by the first and second “waves” of the promotion, first a $50 holo towel only available for purchase if you buy $50 of game credits, and second a free keychain with a $120 game credit purchase, so I only went for the plush promotion.
They only had Fuwamoco, Gura, Fubuki, Ina, Okayu, and IryS. I went on opening day of the plush promo to my semi rural local Round1 and was DISGUSTED buy the coomers who attended en mass and swarmed the fuwamoco machines.
Each plush machine was locked to hit payout, so you had to play a lot in order to guarantee a plush. When I tell you these neckbeards would load 15+ games on a machine, not get the plush, walk away, buy another $100 in credits and go to a different machine. Appalled. I got my Gura, Okayu, Fubuki, (and fuwamoco after i saw people are selling them for $200) and left grossed out. I am excited for the January wave of all JP plush though.
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gumpai is my favorite lolcow self poster. I think she does a lot of good for the community actually.
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The Holostars discussion board's management temporarily shut it down because it was apparently too toxic(???), if we get newfags in the coming days like the one who tried to make a shit duplicate thread, it's because of that.
No. 436658
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Another Holo graduation. Any JP nonnas able to say if there were warning signs?
Ultimately unaffected by ongoing developments as long as Korone and Fauna stay, personally. They both seem pretty happy where they are, though.
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>>436658*she's not graduating, she's going the affiliate route like Ame. Seems fair, I believe she's also one of the members who had serious issues with stalker fans so I'm not surprised she wants to leave behind the idol arrangement.
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>>436619>The Holostars discussion boardthe what now?
No. 437029
>>436855After NYFCO went down, somebody created a StarsEN centric forum in the style of NYFCO for fans to continue congregating. It started out alright but discussions naturally grew more contentious as the site grew. Nothing insane but most of the people hanging around are the types who want to have their cake and eat it too with anonymous discussion sites so you can surmise how things went down.
Site was elysium.baby, we'll see if it comes back.
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I dont closely follow fauna but a bit surprised people are acting like she's anti-unicorn when her past content was like this?
It's never okay for male fans to be nasty, but making this kind of content is definitely not going to help you grow a respectful audience imo.
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Patiently waiting for Gura to dip and the whole Holo EN powder keg explodes
No. 437230
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>>437191>>437211Highly curious. I don't closely follow Aqua, Fauna, or Chloe, but as far as I knew, they were hardworking and had consistent stream output, unlike Gura or Ame who'd be more obvious choices for graduation.
Ofc no job is perfect but they literally got to play video games and make 6 figures a year. Something pretty wrong must be happening.
I feel bad but simultaneously I am ready for the shitstorm.
No. 437235
>>437230>literally got to play video games Like it's not just that. They have meetings, emails to follow up on inane shit, restrictions about what they can play because of Japanese copyright laws, work trips to Japan and idol stuff like concerts to work on.
If they can leave and take their fanbase with them and not have to deal with all the corpo shit on top of Cover taking (last I heard) a third of their donos, I'm surprised that more don't jump ship once they pump their numbers up. Kson is doing pretty well since leaving.
No. 437238
>>437235I'm sure that stuff is hard and annoying, especially if any of the talents are getting older and hoping to settle down and travel less. But I would still counter that there's not that many careers you can do full-time from home (outside from work trips) for 6 figures AND no formal education.
But tbh vtubing has been on the downswing for a while now. The writing might be on the wall. Aside from going indie, I don't think any talents would be insane if they wanted to go get a college degree or some type of formal job training.
>>437234Regardless of how you feel about randon (personally haven't followed him since he left holo) I think the clip seems fair. Sounds like what basically everyone in hololive alludes to, they just can't come out and say it as clearly as he can.
No. 437299
>>437235vidrel is laplus giving a breakdown of these things
>fauna graduatingi'm sorry for the nonas itt that enjoyed her, but i've been having fun watching the /vt/ melties
No. 437380
>>437379I wonder if some of the growing discontent with Holo EN/Holostars EN came from covid vs. post-covid expectations.
For HoloMyth, I imagine it was a pretty cush job - I don't think any of them were traveling back then. No expectation to fly to Japan multiple times a year to film concerts. Probably a few online meetings a week but otherwise, sit there and game.
I wonder if some other talents signed up, thinking they'd have that experience and it could even be a side job (like Sana doing it secondary to gacha artwork) but then expectations began to quickly change.
Being a full-time college student and streaming and having meetings a few times a week would be busy, but doable. But throw dance lessons and regular international travel plans into the mix, and it becomes way more complicated.
Rrats?
No. 437383
>>437379I don't think it's an issue, at least with Cover. We've had multiple talents pursue higher education and all have been allowed to take long breaks if they feel it's needed.
It was in menshi, but Kiara also stated today that the issue isn't necessarily the workload as, again, they're allowed to opt out of almost any event, the only thing she wasn't sure about was Fes. Not that she claimed there wasn't a
valid mangement based issue for talent complaints– she said there are multiple factors, in fact.
She wasn't able to get very specific but TLDR she said that the job, while having a heavy workload, is a relatively easy one for the high income they receive. But she also said that there are factors beyond those when it comes to leaving a job.
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Did we ever get confirmation that Gura aka Samantha Dillon Howard was one of the victims of David Matterson, convicted serial rapist in Nantucket?(obsessed schizo)
No. 438209
Time to doompost? I got shamed for it last time…>>437224
>>437299>>437380Comments on the linked YT video suggest Korean capitalism. I didn't know dance lessons were involved. If the talents have to pay for then it is that gets deducted, that's already a no.
Plus, they've realized that there's groundwork already done by people who recently went indie like Dokibird & Mint. Even Sayu. They'll never be broke.
Regardless of whether or not Hololive is neglecting them support offer whether it not the flights, lessons etc are a concern, they now know they don't need the company.
Plus, they are more than a few indies who are doing great thanks to having their own staff. Earlier it was Shylily and Shoto. Maybe a few ex- VShojo members like Nyanners. Now, even ex-Niji and ex-Holo members are finding their own footing. In terms of collabs, they get more options in the form of former co-workers. It'll probably be the same vibe but without a company taking money.
I guess the question is whether fans liked their personalities or just models.
No. 438372
>>438209If you're who you sound like you are, you didn't get shamed for doomposting. You got shamed for throwing random spaghetti at a wall to see what stuck while getting basic facts about the talents involved incorrect.
But that's beside the point. I'd agree that the past year has made indie vtubing a provably sustainable route for those who have an established fanbase but are unhappy with management. "Build a strong fanbase with corpo platform" -> "go indie and take full profit" has been the obvious emerging meta for a while now, though, even prior to the Dokibird situation this year.
No. 438710
Seems like all of the Aster stuff that drip leaked over the past year was legitimate.
>>438562Big utaite going vtuber isn't anything that crazy but mafumafu and soraru have both done a fair amount of it. If we're talking big seiyuu I know Ono Daisuke also used a rigged vtuber model when he interviewed with Roberu a while.
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how did this guy ever get accepted into a corpo he's a complete pr nightmare lmao
imagine vagueposting about the rumors of another member being a sexpest/sexual harasser is legit then backtracking and going "yeah im just stupid my bad"
No. 439058
>>438562Vtuber models are simply a means for people to stream without their human faces. KSon had one for just the face (not shoulders) for when she didn't wanna do makeup. Ironmouse said she used a model so people wouldn't see a sick person.
Utaite like nqrse, eve, etc have used it at one point or another.
If you look for old clips of VAs, they frequently have only audio and the image of the character they're playing. That's partially why Mikeneko didn't really have an issue there. VAs don't need to do face cam and some actively hide their faces so as to "not ruin immersion".
Even mangaka like Aka Akasaka and producers like Kanaria have Vtuber models. Shigure Ui is also a mangaka and I'm sure you've heard her famous song.
Point is, it's just a medium. Anyone who can afford a model can become a Vtuber.
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No. 439297
>>439292They're going to fire Twisty and claim that Aster's just a
victim of slander, calling it now.
No. 439439
>>439292Coming from the agency who let one known rapist walk scot free but got arrested an anti just for posting shit on 2chan or whatever I can only see this going awfully for the actual
victims. (Scarle, Twisty gets no respect from me)
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>>439715The noteworthy thing here is the uneven application of punishment for leaking. Back during the Raziel statement, it was abundantly clear that Luca had been the source of several past leaks, but Niji never so much as acknowledged the fact. It's odd that they're now making a point to say they're investigating unauthorized leaking. It seems leaking is not an issue when one of their big males does it repeatedly on the issue of internal drama and major upcoming events such as 3D, but DOES constitute and issue when a woman feels compelled to speak on sexual harrassment.
TLDR: given NijiEN's past treatment of confirmed leaks, it's reasonable to be suspect they're only mentioning a leaker in order to have somebody take the fall for the situation. Even if this doesn't happen, it's further evidence of favoritism from management.
No. 439772
I just wanna know why the fuck they didn’t drop Aster after the flopfag went after one of their top earning talents, Scarle. I can’t believe he’s got enough company clout to remain and just how much Scarle seems to be sidelined by this company.
>>439766Twisty would’ve done great in phase based off this
>>439743 exchange.
No. 439779
>>439293Shinri and Oga from Holostars have really low singing voices
but I wouldn't say they're especially amazing singers or anything. There's Chogakusei (a utaite who streams with a vtuber model and does lots of covers with Nijisanji JP livers), but he shows himself (masked) in most of his covers so that might be a deal breaker if you're not interested in real men kek
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>>440366two because flood ugh
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What’s your vtuber pet peeve, nonas? For me, it’s when vtubers use 3D models. Pic very much rel.
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