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No. 1663713

Old: >>>/ot/1376950

Discuss why you think the following phenomena exist:
>Harassment of the creators of the content fans purport to enjoy
>Pro/Anti shipping drama
>Outlandish woke fanart/headcanons
>Parasocial relationships with actors, often involving stalking
>Fans dogpiling each other over petty bullshit, like having a "problematic fave."
>Autistically detailed knowledge of lore, but zero understanding of themes
>Acting completely unhinged in public spaces (conventions, meetups, etc.)
Include examples of these behaviors if necessary; they do not need to be recent.

Remember that while the following topics are relevant and it's fine to discuss them, they also have their own threads:
Tumblr: >>>/ot/1245504
Twitter: >>>/ot/1362168
Tiktok: >>>/ot/1291087
Reddit: >>>/ot/1347741
Fujoshis: >>>/ot/227162
Transwashing: >>>/m/235564
Western Animation Industry: >>>/snow/1585248

No. 1663717

>>1663699
>Nonnas itt point out the fact that only digimon tamers fit the criteria of action/adventure with no focus on relationships
>Sperges about BL
Why are you like this

No. 1663728

All this talk in the previous thread remind me thatif I were to write a story I'd make it about female main characters without a second thoughts. I like a lot of female characters from all sorts of stories and they tend to not be very popular or they're controversial, like Yukari from Persona 3 just on top of my head. But I do admit, I'm a fujoshi and have a bunch of husbandos on top of that kek, if I decided to write my own stuff I would just write what I wish I could read or watch and that would mean more main female characters among other things.

No. 1663747

Some of these I haven't seen in quite a while so idk if they hold up but here's some more female centric or ensemble cast. I feel like no matter what I put it's going to get nitpicked but maybe anons will like some of these idk.
Sakura wars
Bubblegum crisis
Michiko to hatchin
Slayers
Rayearth
Appleseed
Ergo proxy
Deca dence
Galaxy Express 999
Witch hunter robin
Eureka 7
Black lagoon
Hellsing

I feel like my preference for scifi is coming through here lol. Wasn't sure if ghost in the shell would count either because major is pretty well the only female character but I still really like her. I feel like the lack of action based shows with women had to do with people saying no one will like this stuff but the women I talk to do want this stuff so it is frustrating. I'd hope with the success of shows like Arcane there would be more consideration for female centric action/fantasy.

No. 1663783

>>1663728
Same here. I have a small story idea buzzing in my head and so far almost every character is a woman. I didn’t do it intentionally as some part or #girlbossfeminism it just came naturally.
It makes me sad knowing that if a story like mine got published it would be largely ignored because men don’t cate about female-dominated shows (unless it’s moe shit) and women don’t care about female characters in general and you have to cover it up in social justice speak for people to give a damn about it, but now that likely backfires can you imagine someone calling you misogynistic because you weren’t interested in the MC of Forspoken.

Last thread’s discussion was kind of miserable. I remember how most fans are hyped over the male prostitute character in Hazbin Hotel compared to any other character. He’s unfortunately the most interesting one so far.
Maybe this is too much hyperbole.

No. 1663789

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People complaining about dragon maid's bunny figure are so weird to me, like the show's been scrote lolicon shit since day 1 but you're for some reason surprised they're making a playboy bunny figure of Kanna?

In general I notice there's a lot of people who collect obvious loli figures and watch obvious lolicon anime but then are like 'I'M NOT A LOLICON THOUGH THAT'S DISGUSTING' like why are you supporting it then?

No. 1663791

>>1663783
>Women don't care about female characters
This isn't true at all. If anything it is basically women who care about female centric shows. Despite what was said in last thread, and granted these tend to be smaller circles compared to bigger fandom but I've never had a conversation with men about shows like killing eve but I have with several women. Write your characters I'm sure more women than you think would be interested.

No. 1663795

I always wonder why a woman wrote heartstopper about men instead of women. It really is gay fiction for girls. Like they took an actual girl in an already written story and replaced it with a boy, I forget the bottoms name. I think there are ways for writers to make appropriate fiction for teenagers that still has a tasteful way to add realistic intimacy without making it pornographic, instead of making everything so sterile and asexual.

No. 1663802

Phone posting but Re Red Garden: Are you guys thinking about a different anime or because they aren’t always fighting monsters in every scene it is slice of life? By this logic Naruto is slice of life kek. Also, Kino is adventure but not action, just because it’s not action heavy doesn’t make it slice of life. You must be thinking of a different anime. Not to mention other action and or adventures with women either well written or at least as well written as the men: Ghost In The Shell, Devilman Lady, Claymore, Cowboy Bebop, Psycho Pass, Noir, Inuysha, etc.

>Inb4 ‘they aren’t well written!’

They are well written as the male characters.

It’s just goal post shifting:
>There are no well written female characters!
Yes there are
>Well not in the genres I like!
Yes there are
>Well they don’t count for (minuscule or outright untrue reason including they’re multiple genres)!

Instead of trying to explain away every legit point, why not tell us which action/adventure shows you actually like and watch?

Thinking you’re oppressed for being called dumb online for opinions is peak underage twitterfag.

No. 1663804

>>1663717
Because the ones saying women are never written well are the fujos that posted in unpopular opinions or confessions in ot about hating female characters. They literally post that its them in their own thread so the point is brought up to say women are well written, they just don’t seek that sort of media out.

No. 1663813

>>1663804
They say women aren't written well and then proceed to write men acting like women, which in turn contributes to how fiction like twilight convinced a whole gen of teenage girls into pining for a man who doesn't exist. Women want men who act like women because they've consumed fiction like that their entire developmental lives kek.

No. 1663828

>>1663813
Women want to read about men who act like women because men who act like men are unpleasant

No. 1663836

>>1663828
I understand that but I've already met and spoken to not one but multiple women that have acknowledged that reading twilight completely fucked up their standards of men and now they're depressed about it kek. I'm pretty sure I've seen an anon mention it like ages ago even. It makes it easier for men to manipulate young women and for them to keep themselves in toxic scenarios in the name of 'true passionate love'. I understand escapism but this just reinforces a fantasy that young women need to know isnt true early on.

No. 1663860

>>1663795
god it'd be so nice if we had more stories like heartstopper but with women, i feel like a lot of western f/f couples i come across are either non-canon and declared "canon" by fans or outrageously sexual/male gaze-y. i don't think i'd read it if it was by the original heartstopper author though because she's a major nlog type and her fanbase is both annoying and rabid.

No. 1663892

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AO3 2023 ship stats is probably mostly what you'd expect

No. 1663901

>>1663728
>likes female characters
>fujoshi
>has husbandos
Based, you're me fr

No. 1663903

>>1663892
>Wednesday
>latino
What? Netflix made them latin? Still white either way. And is Dream the guy who was exposed as a fattie? Good for him.

No. 1663906

>>1663747
Nice list. I'd like to add some shows like w.i.t.c.h. and its comic, winx club, sailor moon, manga like innocent and innocent rouge by Sakamoto shinichi, early shoujo manga by the pioneer of the genre Moto Haigo, she has some cool female centric sci fi stuff

No. 1663913

>>1663903
Wasn't the father in the movies latin? While the mother french (white)? So it makes sense that Wednesday is latin since she's mixed.

No. 1663922

>>1663901
I feel like this is most old school fujos that have grown up and expanded their tastes

No. 1663935

>>1663903
>Dream the guy who was exposed as a fattie?
That was a false identification, and he did a face reveal later that you can look up. As far as I can tell he's not fatty, but internet discourse broke out on whether he was ugly KEK

No. 1663940

>>1663913
>wasn't he latin
Well his name was Gomez so at least a little bit.

No. 1663948

>>1663935
Wasn't that him but from several years ago? So he lost weight between then and now.
>>1663892
How is Soap/Ghost number 5? Who the hell writes this much cod fanfiction?

Despite the viral "boycotting" of the evil TERF series Harry Potter among fan spaces, it's still the series that comes up the most. Twitter/tumblrfags need to start checking which of their mutuals are secretly aiding the genocide of trans lives.

No. 1663952

>>1663892
Only ship I like here is Creek honestly…

No. 1663955

>>1663836
Maybe not Twilight but I don't know about faulting girls to having (maybe not men acting like women but in name) higher standards of men who have higher emotional intelligence lol. I agree about unrealistic expectations set by fiction bc most males irl are so immature and are looking for bangmaids.

No. 1663971

>>1663804
If you just want to sperg about how much you hate fujos and act in bad faith instead of genuinely making suggestions and being a part of the conversation then go to the containment thread instead of taking your retarded bitterness out here.

>>1663747
Slayers is actually the only one out of that list that imo fits the criteria of having messy female characters getting into action without it being some tender philosophical journey, and I hate how it's like 30 years old at this point and nothing similar has entered the mainstream since. I've always been GNC myself and I fucking hate how rare female GNC characters are, if they're ever included their entire personality is being comedically butch. Give me a goblin mode tomboy woman who's not a manic pixie dream girl! Like Lina!

No. 1663974

>>1663922
>>1663901
I always liked a lot of female characters and grew up reading shojo manga and watching some really old 80s shojo anime on TV like my life depended on it. CLAMP basically raised me kek. And I think the vast majority of my fujo friends irl, the ones I met in high school and uni are like that too so maybe it's a matter generation as well because shojo manga aren't what they used to be it seems. Or they're published in Shonen magazines. In high school the girls I talked about could sperg hard over Sephiroth/Cloud and then talk about how their favorite character in the entire series by far is actually Aerith or Yuna.

No. 1663978

>>1663971
Suggestions are being given and your having a shitfit about them being given as proof women are written well and seething when it's pointed out you don't think they're written well because you don't care about media. No one gives a shit about fujos enjoying BL, just retards like you seething that female characters are all shit like a moid. You can enjoy BL without hating women but seem to have a problem with women. It's why anons make fun of fujos being protot ftms. The sperging in the fujo thread about terfs doesn't help too. It is very scrotish.

No. 1663980

>>1663978
This post reads like a machine translation

No. 1663983

>>1663971
Samefag but:
>y-you're not making genuine suggestions!
>after the post mentioning tamers was offering genuine suggestions you disregarded with the most nonsensical excuse why they don't count including calling Red Garden slice of life
>muh bad faith
>this whole thing started because fujos leaked their containment thread and started seething about all female characters being shit (something untrue most anons realise)
Kek, fuck off underage twitterfag.(derailing/infighting)

No. 1663984

>>1663983
>>1663978
I think you should put down your phone for a moment and fondle grass a bit until you calm down, nonnie.

No. 1663989

>>1663980
>trying to pretend that everyone who thinks you're a retard is pakichan
Cope. Many anons shat on your dumbass opinions. This is why the fujo cringe thread exists. The original post that started the shitflinging can be found here >>>/ot/1425222 and multiple anons called it retarded, which caused the retard anons who posted about hating female characters to seethe that they're oppressed like SJWs and then cry in the fujo thread about evil terfs and feminazis calling their opinion on female characters retarded and underage.

No. 1663990

>>1663789
This is insanely common among younger zoomers. I think they don't even watch the source material a lot of the times so they're oblivious to it? It's why suddenly there's been an explosion of people collecting eroge loli figurines simply because the characters are cute.

No. 1663992

>>1663984
It's retarded to pretend the suggestions being given weren't genuine. Bl was brought up since the anons who think women are written poorly don't actually seek out the media where women are written well, leading them to believe something untrue yet mad when they are told it's not true on an anonymous imageboard including multiple thread derails over the span of a year and a bit. They leaked containment and got called retarded and then have shat up multiple threads since and continue to seethe in their containment thread to this day, including posting in meta about how anons shouldn't hate trannies so much (because the only anons who hate female characters are the underage twitterfag kind) making the site worse.

No. 1663994

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>>1663990
>a lot of the times so they're oblivious to it?
They like to make that argument, but this and several other obvious loli figures are on her MFC wishlist.
https://myfigurecollection.net/users.v4.php?mode=view&username=skittlescore&tab=collection&rootId=0

No. 1663995

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>>1663994
And then in the same breath she's like

No. 1663996

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No. 1663997

>>1663996
>No argument so just posting: "W-well you're mentally ill!"
Sorry you were proving wrong.

No. 1663998

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>>1663994
>>1663995
Yeah, this is my experience with such girls too. I think they're just pretending to be oblivious to be given benefit of the doubt once they inevitably get "exposed" since navigating zoomer socmed spaces is a tricky thing.
If I'm being generous, like 80% of those figurines come from moid centered media and then they dare to act surprised on their socials it panders to disgusting coomers when they know exactly what they're doing kek

No. 1663999

>>1663789
They like what they like but don't want to be cancelled for it so they have to let everyone know that they think lolicon is gross whilst still enjoying the media they enjoy I guess. It's a very zoomer thing imo because of how prevalent "cancelling" is.

No. 1664000

>>1663998
Forgot to say pic related is from her collection, apparently.

No. 1664001

>>1663971
>Slayers is actually the only one out of that list that imo fits the criteria of having messy female characters getting into action without it being some tender philosophical journey,
ntayrt, but how come black lagoon and hellsing doesn't count? they seem like a perfect fit for that description.

No. 1664003

>>1663998
Kind of adds to the annoyance that most of the stuff they buy figures from they don't even watch/read, like if you're not even going to look into the source material for 90% of the figures you buy then why are you picking the obviously lolishit ones? They can't pull a 'BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE THE CHARACTER' when the character is fucking pastel ink kek (who she does own figures of).

No. 1664004

To the anons who hate female characters and think they're poorly written, which shows do you like that you think have well written male characters?

No. 1664005

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>>1663999
How pathetic, most of these figures look like shit on top of that so they literally just exist for loli coom.

No. 1664006

>>1664001
>Mfw realizing all the shows with cool female characters are decades old
What happened? I couldn't imagine Balalaika or Integra existing today, if Hellsing got a remake she would probably be a blushing tsundere at Alucard or something.

No. 1664007

>>1664006
They realized the most profitable thing was pandering to moid isekai shit. It's why shoujo is dying out.

No. 1664011

>>1664005
I think this is cute but I am detached from these spaces

No. 1664012

>>1664006
Everyone knows Alucard is gay

No. 1664023

>>1663892
Their blatant racism and how the users accept it never ceases to amaze me. Perhaps they ban anyone who tells them to remove it or tone it down.

No. 1664026

>>1664023
Is this the right thread? You're replying to a list of AO3 ships.

No. 1664027

>>1664023
>Their blatant racism and how the users accept it never ceases to amaze me
What are you even talking about?

No. 1664029

>>1664007
>Badass masculine/androgynous female characters got replaced with mommy dommy fetish pandering
>Shoujo is just crap high school romcoms with lazy self insert writing
>All animes coming out are isekai harem light novel adaptations
>Anime originals becoming rarer and rarer, the only ones are soulless Netflix originals made to be palatable for normie westerners and trying to be deep and/or replicate Shinkai's work who's trying to replicate early 00's visual novels himself
No wonder people are just into vtubers and gacha games now.

No. 1664030

>>1663983
>after the post mentioning tamers was offering genuine suggestions you disregarded with the most nonsensical excuse why they don't count including calling Red Garden slice of life
So only one of your recs was of any value, yet you feel offended because your deliberate misdirection, if not trolling, was pointed out?

Go screech how nobody appreciates your help - your help does more harm than good. Sometimes it's a better choice to keep your mouth shut than make fool of yourself.

>Kek, fuck off underage twitterfag.

Get a trip, so I can filter you, troll.(newfag)

No. 1664031

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>>1664004
Thunderbolt Fantasy

No. 1664032

>>1664030
Did you even read the post, many recs were given including more since and all in the specified genre yet were denied for miniscule or nonsensical reasons including trying to pretend they were different genres. Just because I specifically mentioned red garden as being egregious, doesn't mean the others weren't also good suggestions. Your whole position seems to be
>get suggestion
>don't like the suggestion
>class it as trolling when it's the genre asked for for seemingly no reason other than as an excuse to continue holding a nonsensical view
>your help does more harm then good
Lol what? Are you retarded. Sorry you were called a retard for dismissing the given suggestions in the genre for no reason other than to continue reeing about female characters being bad because you'd rather do that than just admit you want media with hot men.

No. 1664033

>>1664030
>reddit spacing
>reeing about trolls
Confirmed kek.

No. 1664036

>>1664030
>get a trip, so I can filter you, troll
Why do so many posts lately read like a teenage girl who decided to Google imageboard etiquette and is taking the role extremely seriously

No. 1664037

>>1664032
NTA but when people say they want shows with no focus on relationships and romance and you suggest Utena of all things nobody is going to take your recommendations seriously. Talk about misunderstanding the assignment.

No. 1664039

>>1664036
Newfag twitter users failing to integrate. It is summer in the Southern Hemisphere from what I understand?

No. 1664041

>>1664037
It wasn't asked for for them to have no focus on relationships or romance, just action/adventure.

No. 1664042

>>1664039
Kek, I mean Northern.

No. 1664044

>>1664039
I find zoomers fascinating. They have that detached, selfish, and shallow worldview very distinct to a teenager with no life experience yet they've been raised on the internet so they know to try to use oldfag verbiage to try to camouflage the fact that everything they say is retarded. They're still easy to seperate from genuine posters though, their need to insist they've 'been there' all along is so funny

No. 1664045

>>1664041
The entire discussion was about how shows for women center around relationships and romance while more action-focused genres don't feature (well-written) female characters, just read a few posts back before entering a conversation and then reeing and throwing a tantrum because you yourself misunderstood the topic at hand.

No. 1664047

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Whoa, >>1663983 proved to be a mod.

See, the mental illness and bizarre fujo hate is coming from within!(ban evading newfag)

No. 1664048

>>1664045
The recs given don't focus on the romance/relationship or at least have an equal amount of action/adventure. And again, this is only referencing anime and not the wealth of media beyond anime that features action/adventure with well written female characters that are seemingly ignored in favor of complaining. Plus, this doesn't mean female characters are not well written.

No. 1664049

>>1664044
The other day one of these zoomer cows tried to imply that Terry Davis was viewed as a loser until after his death, which is verifiably false and something that a newfag that wasn't around would say.

No. 1664051

>>1664047
>claiming poster is mentally ill
>thinking anon is a mod because you got banned for being a newfag
KEK. Imagine trying to claim I'm mentally ill when you're a schizo who thinks being banned for being a retard means the person you're replying to is a mod and that you aren't the retard. Also, way to prove your ban evading newfag retard.

No. 1664052

>>1664047
Christ. I was starting to suspect as much because the mentally ill obsession with fujos never cops a ban yet the husbandofag cringe thread was locked in an hour with no explanation and bans like this are handed within minutes. I can't wait for fujochan to return if the mods are this petty, please spend more time banning racebait in /ot/ than dropping trips to fight with users over chinese cartoons.(derailing/take it to meta)

No. 1664054

>>1664044
It's like they're animals at the zoo, they I assume are newfags coming from fujochan since it's been down >>1664052 >>1664047

No. 1664059

>>1663971
These were just my own personal suggestions anon I don't really care about fitting your criteria perfect give that seems fairly impossible if you won't venture outside anime. Like I said before I don't watch a ton of anime but those were some I enjoyed and liked the female characters. I could give bounds of suggestions if it weren't just about anime.

No. 1664060

>>1664054
I thought fujochan was up? The main complaint I have seen is that adminjo removed the shota board.

No. 1664062

>>1664060
I thought it was down. Don't know, never visited but saw some anons mention it. Maybe it's back up now.

No. 1664063

>>1664060
It went down for maintenance a few weeks ago following a scrote raid and they're apparently installing mechanics to prevent them. It's just taking a good while and it's still down.

No. 1664065

>>1664029
But those things are also incredibly mediocre and repetitive?

No. 1664067

>>1664027
>>1664026
They are really desperate to pigeonhole fictional character on the basis of their (willy-nilly assigned) race - to the point they are not only wrong, but also racist/xenophobic. Especially when it comes to anime characters with weird hair and eye colours - I guess 'race' is now whatever you identify with or what kind of name (the sacred BLOODLINE that many societies fetishise) you have rather than a set of physical characteristics. It's even more obvious when a character with blond hair and blue eyes gets classified as 'Asian' (like what happens wherever Naruto appears) because they sort of have a Japanese name? Which means that the Japanese can ONLY be of the Asian race, brown-skinned people with Japanese citizenship can never be Japanese? The wet dream of netouyo and other xenophobes. It's so regressive and sloppy that I'm embarrassed to still see it in 2023.

No. 1664161

>>1663892
soukoku ftw

No. 1664205

>>1663892
interesting that there's so much hp.

No. 1664235

>>1663892
>Harry Potter still tops the charts, even for characters we never meet in person in the books.
Based. JK stay winning kek.

No. 1664283

>>1664004
I don't hate female characters per se, but get kinda annoyed at the wasted potential in shows aimed at boys. Like iron man armored adventures Pepper and Whitney. Pepper could've been cooler if she wasn't obsessed with being Tony's girlfriend and jealous of every girl and even boy who talk to him the entire time, that quirk about her makes her irritating sometimes. But other than that she can be reasonable and smart and really kindhearted and I love that about her, and love how goofy she can get and how unapologetically she's herself. But she also suffers from a mild case of NLOGism unfortunately, hating feminine girly girls because they're a "threat" to her future relationship with Tony. So much so that these characters get written out of the show eventually so she's the only possible love interest for Tony, even though others where better options, especially Whitney. Whitney was smart and strong and capable she almost killed iron man with a bunch of prototype incomplete weapons and fought an assassin targeting Tony all by herself, and paid him more money than his employers to save Tony. She's just perfect and amazing, and her daddy issues add to her character to me because she craves familial love like any kid/teenager out there but her dad is insane and too far gone to see it, but she stays by her side until the end and chooses him over Tony when he gets in a coma, which is sad because I loved her with Tony but she has the right to choose family over love I guess and trying to 'fix' her dad, even though he's not worth it but whatever.
Other female characters I like are from media aimed at girls like W.i.t.c.h. and winx club, as well as some seinen stuff like Naoki Urasawa's female characters like Nina from monster, and Marie Josphe Sanson from innocent/innocent Rouge, she's the most relatable to me and I find her super hot kek. And while some people hate them, I love the women from jojo's bizarre adventures, some are perfect and flawless and I don't mind, and others are flawed and go through a lot and I love all of them, minus the yandere blue print girl.

No. 1664290

>>1664054
>Fujochan residents are newfags
Not saying there aren’t newfags from Fujochan, but a lot of Fujochan residents started out on cc or lolcow. Also can someone post the original unpopular opinions comment that started the whole “fujos hate female characters” argument. I looked in the unpopular opinions thread and only saw ya novel discussion.

No. 1664304

>>1663892
>dazai/chuuya so popular even dazai & chuuya places
i really hate this toxic ass shit of two characters who hate each other's guts to the point if you locked them in a room together they'd tear each other to shreds like two really hungry pitbulls, being shipped. holy fucking shit if you want me to like yaoi can't you develop ONE DECENT YAOI SHIP that isn't "these two guys hate each other. that secretly means they want to kiss."

if yaoi's fanbase aren't delusional toxic mentally ill retards, explain why they always favor ships between two guys who hate each other and not two guys who like each other. why are they obsessed with toxic ass shit like dazai/chuuya and not something that's at least wholesome like dazai/atsushi or atsushi/kenji.

it's a violation of humanity. i feel like if i went in to the office and said, "you know greg in accounting? I can't stand that asshole," there are going to be 100 people following me around writing porny fics of me and greg swapping body fluids. it's fetishizing abuse and dysfunction and is an abomination. "wholesome healthy relationships? no thank you. i want to wank to the moral equivalent of pedophilia." i've seen two gay guys IRL doing battle trying to kill each other to the point they got arrested. it isn't sexy. it's horrifying and traumatic. i think the antis are right. anyone who likes toxic ships needs to touch grass and unfuck their brain chemistry.

No. 1664333

>>1664304
The first two ships are literally friends to lovers. Stop being retarded

No. 1664336

>>1664304
My new favorite copypasta

No. 1664337

>>1664333
>the first two
on the chart? i'm not talking about them. i'm talking about how 99% of bsd fanart/fic is just horny for dazai/chuuya, which makes me not want to even admit i like the series lest i be associated with them. it's fucking gross.

No. 1664338

>>1664304
You might need to take your own advice on touching grass.

No. 1664345

>>1664337
> if yaoi's fanbase aren't delusional toxic mentally ill retards, explain why they always favor ships between two guys who hate each other and not two guys who like each other. why are they obsessed with toxic ass shit
You should’ve clarified you were talking about bsd’s fanbase and not yaoi fanbases in general

No. 1664348

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the booktok drama from last thread got me thinking: do you think girls and women who go apeshit over all those spicy romance books are pornsick? while i'm anti-porn, i always treated written erotica differently because no real people are harmed in the process of the creation (unlike porn actresses). but seeing how insane these women go over spicy books and how they consume so much of them, i'm starting to wonder… or is it just because these women are usually normies who have never encountered porn focused on the pleasure of the woman, while weebs easily find reverse harem r18 material online or consume other r18 content (fanfic, fanart, explicit djs)?

No. 1664351

>>1664337
I keep thinking I should try reading/ watching bsd cause I'm an irl Dazai fangirl but i never get around to it, i guess i wouldn't interact with the fandom either way.

No. 1664352

>>1664345
you're being disingenuous pretending most yaoi ships aren't toxic between two guys who hate each other. it's never two guys who were friends, no. always either outright hate each other or at best rivals. the overwhelming majority of yaoi ships are toxic, and it's handwaved by calling any criticism "homophobia." het isn't always great but people aren't afraid to criticize a bad het ship. ironically the sapphics tend to be the least toxic and their ships the most healthy.

No. 1664353

>>1664352
>sapphic
You almost had a point there, but you’re obviously just mad that some women enjoy toxic relationships. Fuck off tiffany

No. 1664357

>>1664353
>wow, this ship between two guys who treat each other like crap and abuse the shit out of each other is so hot
>oh no why is my husband (a toxic loser i chose because he's like the guys i ship) beating the crap out of me and our kids?
I'm the one here who actually has empathy for women that they shouldn't be flooded nonstop with this polluting mentality. It's the female version of being pornsick and it does ruin lives. Toxic ships aren't cute–the fans need therapy and a good role model. Antis are right about some things.

No. 1664362

>>1664348
I think it's more like there's something special about people who focus on irl people rather than fictional characters. Kinda like the insane supernatural fans.Tho hockey romance novels seems so niche that it feels like autism.

No. 1664364

>>1664304
You have a point. Don't mind the nonnies disagreeing with you. I ship one toxic ship and I feel super bad about it because IT IS BAD and reflects some stuff about me that I'm not willing to address properly yet.

No. 1664366

>>1664304
My anon they're not real

No. 1664372

>>1664351
>irl dazai fangirl
You mean the writer? If so the show makes no good references to his works or him, it just uses his name for a character and his book "no longer human" title as the name of the character's power. And makes the dazai character suicidal but as a joke where he always attempts it but never succeeds. Other than that it's not worth it if you're looking for nuanced literature related stuff. Watch "ever green literature/aoi bungako" instead. But if you want the action and super power stuff and mafia vs some law enforcement agency who use super powers for their work then go ahead and watch it.

No. 1664381

>>1664366
Right? That nonna seems autistic and can’t differentiate reality from fiction. Why would she argue that women get with toxic men because of shitty fanfics about romanticized toxic relationships if she wasn’t retarded. Most people can tell the difference between fiction and reality

No. 1664388

>>1664304
Men cant love like women they can only hate eachother and then rip their buttholes apart with dicking. Thats the appeal of yaoi.

No. 1664397

>>1663892
Fujos will really act like victims as if every fandom space isn't filled with content just for their liking huh

No. 1664398

>>1664372
BSD promised me literary references and smart mystery plots in a comfy detective agency, but delivered dragonball Z and chuunibyouism. However, nonna should watch Dark Era, a self contained 4 episode (iirc) mini-arc set before current events. Only good thing to come out of the series in the end. Now it's gone and jumped the keikaku doori shark and everyone is a 300 IQ mastermind with no character development or motive. It's just powerwanking and shouting catchphrases into a camera.
>>1664381
So you support lolicon? because that's the argument they use. Fucking gross.

No. 1664401

>>1664357
I would be much worried of all the straight relationships in most mainstream media normalizing and romanticizing women sacrificing themselves and being abused by a slob of a husband without ever asking anything in return and it being portrayed as wholesome starting from The Simpsons days to modern times than a fujo enjoying two male characters hatefucking kek but this is pretty obviously bait or a kiwiscrote going nuclear

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No. 1664404

>>1664304
enemies to lovers is one of the oldest tropes in the books. including for heteros. The 1st het ships on that AO3 chart is classic enemies to lovers. And the imaginary scenario you're describing happens to girls and women literally all the time. How many of us here had some experience of getting bullied or harassed by boys in school and, when we express annoyance, getting our concerns totally dismissed by adults because "aww, he's only doing that because he likes you!".

No. 1664407

Considering its on topic with the current sperging. Why is it that yaoi/fujos started to get hated amongst women lately? I remember in my late 00s early 10s fujo days men hated fujos because yucky women liking boys kissing, now it seems like most men dont give a fuck and instead its women hating yaoi for being "problematic" and accusing it of being the source of all sexism/homophibia. It seems so out of nowhere considering men have developed worse and more harming fetishes through the years(like hyper focus on race, femboys, sissy shit, borderline legal teens, feet) and that shit like bdsm has become so popular thanks to the push by hollywood(50 shades). It seems so pathetic to attack a small group of female nerds. I am glad i got to enjoy my fujo days in the 00s/10s.

No. 1664409

>>1664401
>everything i disagree with is bait or a scrote, depending on my mood that day
lmao
And no one is afraid to criticize bad het ships, but you say one thing about toxic yaoi ships and they lambast you as a gayphobe to deflect deny and reverse victim and offender.
>>1664404
enemies to lovers is different than an unhealthy relationship forced by fans between two characters who clearly hate each other and don't want to be in each other's company, whether or not their affiliated groups are in conflict. at this point the audience is raping the characters. if you had a love story between two opposing sides of a war, you wouldn't get dazai/chuuya, you'd get romeo and juliet. enemies to lovers is not necessarily toxic because it isn't the characters who hate each other, it's their groups who hate the other side. completely different thing.

No. 1664412

>>1664407
Is the hate really that big? I feel like outside of a small subsection of puritan zoomers, BL is more popular then ever before.

No. 1664414

>>1664412
It isn't that big and if anything that ao3 stat pic proves how popular slash and yaoi is lol.

No. 1664416

>>1664412
I got out the fandom when the discourse of yaoi fetishizing gay men started being thrown around

No. 1664419

>>1664409
>you are raping the characters
And i will keep raping them and you will see them get raped in front of you in your twitter feed in form of shitty mspaint doodles mwahaha *twirls moustache(*le posts without integrating)

No. 1664424

>>1664409
>at this point the audience is raping the characters.
i fail to see the problem

No. 1664427

>>1664407
people sperging about this get lots of twitter engagement and attention which motivates them to keep going.
and as per usual, nothing men do will ever be criticized. everything degrading to women and in favor of men's interests is super empowering and should be lionized and vehemently defended. for some reason.

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No. 1664429

>>1664052
>all that random husbandofag sperging was from salty fujos
Oh.

No. 1664434

>>1664427
in this same thread we're talking about how scrotes only care about media for potential coom value. you're deflecting. both genders are disgusting. for the record, i think male fans are more disgusting, but it's getting pretty close.

all i want is healthy stories i don't feel guilty about reading and a fanbase that won't make me vomit. instead i get toxicity, militant fujos, shock value edgelording, and whatever the fuck you want to call the masturbatory bridge troll that is colleen hoover (not that grrm isn't worse, but i don't expect that kind of material from a female author as i do a fat old moid.)

No. 1664437

>>1664434
>colleen hoover
Who?

No. 1664439

>>1664437
basically all the BTS mafia AU one direction werewolf millionaire fanfics on wattpad condensed into an authorcow and actually published on dead tree pulp. bad fandoms beget bad writers who beget more bad fandoms. modern culture is a toilet bowl.

No. 1664440

>>1664434
We dont commit 98% of crimes we earned the right to like hot anime men buttfucking eachother

No. 1664442

>>1664434
>both genders are disgusting.
you said the quiet part loud mister

No. 1664443

>>1664434
>all i want is healthy stories
Congratulations there’s thousands of cottagecore boring romances out there, go read those and stop purposefully looking for toxic relationship fiction. And don’t act like those aren’t popular. Heartstopper and Red Royal and Blue are both wholesome cottagecore yaoi books.

No. 1664446

>>1664304
I hate Bubgou Stray Dogs for ruining every online search for classic lit writers and trooning out teenage fujos that think a nasty moid like Osamu Dazai is literally me

No. 1664448

>>1664442
is being a horny goblin better when a woman does it? every single book published, every fic written, every fanart drawn, all of it is pornsick.
>>1664443
you took everything from me and give me cottagecore as a consolation prize?

No. 1664451

>>1664434
Unless you exclusively play online games you shouldn't care too much about fanbases tbh.

No. 1664453

>>1664448
>is being a horny goblin better when a woman does it?
Yes

No. 1664454

>>1664443
>Red Royal and Blue
Be real with me, is it secretly a Hetalia fanfic? It has to be.

No. 1664457

>>1664448
You said you wanted fiction that is healthy and doesn’t make you question your morals. So basically fiction that doesn’t challenge your brain for more than 2 seconds. It’s okay to like uwu cute romance, but don’t shit on others for wanting something less boring and more challenging

No. 1664469

>>1664457
>but don’t shit on others for wanting something less boring and more challenging
funny you say that because only the opposite is a thing

No. 1664470

>>1664469
Yes because people like you shit on the ones who like toxic and challenging romances, so those type of people feel the need to defend themselves by shitting on boring romances. You are perpetuating the cycle

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No. 1664473

>>1664457
is the only way to "challenge your brain" to be a trashy horndog? you're acting like sex-crazed klance fanfic is on the level of dostoyevski. i want modern media that offers something more than softcore pornography. look at genshin. it's all about dangling sexually appealing half dressed characters in the face of horny fans to milk cash out of them. why is this accepted as normal? it's gross and people who like this shit should be ashamed. and their own products aren't enough. they walk into every fandom and nonstop hornypost about it. horny fanfic is just as bad as horny scrote fanart.

i can't look up fanart without 99% of it being shipping and coomerism. and not even cute ships! just horny porn ships!
>>1664470
that anon isn't even me, more than one person disagrees with you

No. 1664477

>>1664473
>why is this accepted as normal?
Most people just don't actually care that much.

No. 1664480

>>1664473
>i want modern media that offers something more than softcore pornography
there is plenty of that

No. 1664487

>>1664473
>i want modern media that offers something more than softcore pornography.
you're gonna have to leave ao3 for that. good media exists, especially books.

no1curr but i used to be like that a teenager. would read trashy romance novels, yawn my way through the romance, and devour the descriptions of historical stuff. took me an embarrassingly long time to switch to historical fiction and military history.

No. 1664495

>>1664473
Why are you pretending as if coffee AU unproblematic slice of life with no conflict arent the norm? The vast majority of popular het ships are like that. Now try having real problems like me, like not having one single piece of media were the het ship is between a cool woman and a cute male. I even have to write/draw my own.

No. 1664496

>>1664487
the last historical fiction I read was song of achilles, and it was just a fujo fantasy. the positive reviews are forced corporate accounts. people are coming out saying how the female characters were all written as horrific awful bitches to get them out of the way so the author could write smut scenes between achilles and patroclus. i just wanted something set in ancient greece for escapism. (I didn't pay money for it at least). I mean, they took a story about a woman so beautiful a war was started over her, wrote her out of it, and turned two ancient soldiers into wooby twinks sneaking off to have buttsex.

No. 1664499

>>1664496
Nta but read a better historical book. I haven't read that but everything I've come across talking about it kinda makes it sound like greek themed YA.

No. 1664502

>>1664496
>Song of Achilles
My brother wants to read it because he loves greek history, but I don't have the heart to tell him that it's literally just a romanticized grecian gay romance

No. 1664504

>>1664502
Please dont tell him and buy it for him on his next birthday

No. 1664507

>>1664504
don't buy it. shoplift it. don't give money to these people. but yes, traumatize him with it and tell him to post a vent review on goodreads/youtube for me to laugh with.
>>1664499
it's wattpad fanfiction being labeled as adult literary market historical fiction. i'm not hysterical for saying they've taken everything from me, because they really have. if i pick up 10 books to read, 9 of them are like this. i picked up another one ostensibly about vikings and instead it was about brother-sister incest with graphic sex scenes. every time i go to the library i am traumatized.

No. 1664510

>>1664507
There are little girls being sold as child brides anon. Get real problems.

No. 1664511

>>1664507
>don't buy it
He already got it for free from his wife that works as a school librarian. It was in the trash pile because it was unsuitable for kids.

No. 1664513

>>1664507
YA/NA smutty books are ridiculously easy to spot by their title and covers alone. You can find plenty of books that aren't that if you don't just look at the featured section in a bookstore.

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>>1664304
>can't you develop ONE DECENT YAOI SHIP that isn't "these two guys hate each other. that secretly means they want to kiss"
Just watch stuff with white hair guys

No. 1664515

>>1664511
Why did they even get it? Isn't the main selling point the gay sex?

No. 1664516

>>1664507
>every time i go to the library i am traumatized.
god i wish i had your problems

No. 1664519

>>1664473
So you walk into a sex shop, and complain that there's too many dildos?
I don't get it, I don't even read fanfiction or get off to fiction and I read about a ton of healthy or healthy-ish romances in books that don't focus on romance. Just go read literature? There's plenty of good shit out there, wtf.

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>>1664352
>ironically the sapphics tend to be the least toxic and their ships the most healthy
Not me hehe
Sapphic is cringe as fuck though

No. 1664526

>>1664515
The school library? Probably a donation or because it had the ya stamp. It's a junior high school so ya novels like hunger games are common.
>>1664519
Goodreads has a tagging system too. So it's not that hard to find what you want and the less popular books have genuine reviews to see if you would like what the novel is selling.

No. 1664528

>>1664522
Arent most western lesbian ships toxic as fuck? I remember people calling out she ra and su for this a lot. Just proves anon is fucking retarded since the vast majority of western gay ships are actually over healthy borinf mixed race dads. Give me my yaoi catradora hollywood.

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>>1664507
I like you, anon. You remind me of my husbando.

No. 1664532

>>1664528
Some of those ships are canon ships too. A lot of the toxic gay ships are never canon, unless it's specifically a story focusing on the toxic relationship of two guys (like some korean bl webtoons)

No. 1664533

>>1664473
You might want to get off the internet for a bit nona, you're taking this way more seriously than anyone else. We know shitty porn and impure fanfic are not the pinnacle of literature. We're saying that nobody gives a shit about it existing.

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>>1664528
Dunno, I don't engage much with western shows outside of reality TV and South park, but my favorite movie (black swan) does have that toxic yuri element.
>>1664530
>YAOI FANFICTION HAS LEFT ME IN DESPAIR!

No. 1664541

>>1664473
You're not alone. Anyone who thinks someone who prefers non-explicit content is a prude/doesn't like deep media is just pornsick. You can't change those people's minds. Besides, the most they'll contribute to the world is a sassy twitter thread and a non-con fanfic nobody will read.

No. 1664542

>>1664348
As someone who's pretty involved in book groups/the bookish community online I swear on my life these kindle unlimited smut books that blew up on tiktok have broken peoples brains. The combination of porn and instant gratification they get for plowing through a 150 page wattpad-tier story in a few hours is a potent duo. They don't even know or care about what makes a book good (plotting, prose, character development, etc.), they only care about the next "spicy" scene. In a way, I think some of them are a bit pornsick but not in the same way males are pornsick. It's mostly harmless and isn't destroying relationships and families as far as I know.

I feel like the rise in demand for these books was due to the pandemic since people were locked up at home with nothing to do. Add in shortened attention spans caused by social media addictions, and an aging female reader base who are looking for fulfillment in novels because their IRL scrotes suck and that's how you end up with this craze for smut imo

No. 1664543

>>1664398
You're right about it. I enjoyed the first 2 seasons when there was a plot and characters' had motivations and backstories or something important happening in the present. Then it stopped doing that and it became all about evil guys doing bad stuff and the good guys stop them each episode and all the good parts about the series were thrown out the window. After the dead apple movie I stopped watching it, and found some people who are obsessed with the pedo mafia boss and think he's hot/cute so now I'm off put by the series and its fans and characters

No. 1664544

Can someone explain me the psychology of the recent sperg out itt?

No. 1664549

>>1664544
>be bored
>mention fujos
>guaranteed hour long arguing ensues
>sit back and enjoy

No. 1664551

>>1664543
the original story that was based on was basically the japanese version of The Immoralist, and was supposed to be a criticism/confession of that behavior. Instead the anime fans decided it's cute and hot for an old scrote to groom a loli. In the original story the girl was like 17 btw and the guy more like 30, the manga artist drew her as a 10 year old and him as like 45 to be extra disgusting and coombaity. The writer wants credit for referencing classic literature without understanding that literature. They do the same thing with Fate namedropping historical and mythological characters just to make them into consoomable waifus and husbandos. It's just low quality derivative work. And the west does the same with the latest rewrites of greek myths into YA gay smut.

I wish they would just write honest porn and not bait us with a story then deliver cumrags.

No. 1664552

>>1664304
You and Greg from accounting are my OTP

No. 1664554

>>1664544
Fujos have a frail psychology, that's it.

No. 1664558

>>1664542
>It's mostly harmless and isn't destroying relationships and families as far as I know.
If anything it's probably giving women higher standards for men, which is a good thing imo

No. 1664561

>>1664551
What a shame, I was interested in fate because of the magic aspects and the references. Also the Greek thing happens with straight ships too, like lore Olympus or whatever it was called with this woman self inserting herself in a relationship with a fucking greek god. I'm torn between thinking it's based or insane, maybe both.

No. 1664562

>>1664496
>the last historical fiction I read was song of achilles
kek i was right. IT'S NOT HISTORICAL FICTION, SISTER. IT'S A HISTORICAL ROMANCE. read Maurice Druon, ffs.

No. 1664568

>>1664561
Is lore olympus just an office romance? It looks like one considering Hades wears a suit in some of the promotional material. Honestly, maybe if it came out pre-2010s I might have thought it was based, but now I just think derivative work like that is cringe.

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>>1664052
See? You angered the deranged mod too. Meanwhile her raging posts where she calls other users names are left untouched. This is so childish. This is the reason why jannies and mods should never get involved in discussions on boards they are policying. Can't have a healthy board culture when the rot comes from deep within.(derailing/infighting)

No. 1664572

>>1664568
I guess he's some CEO? It's basically greek mythology+god CEO x poor normal girl who is also a god+bad boy and "I can fix him!"+modern society but in the underground world. It's cringe and has a rape scene so the girl (who's barely legal while the greek god is 100 years old or something) isn't a virgin anymore and would have some "experience" when she gets to sleep with him. It's just so weird.

No. 1664574

>>1664570
I dislike fujos but husbandofags are objectively much worse. We have never had a fujo send her nudes or a fujo spam her fantasies of fucking kirby. Most of the annoying namefags husbandofags and there's a reason why, they're all deranged.
Inb4 mod tries to redtext me, no this isn't derail. Both hisbandofaggotry and fujos are usually centered around fandoms and I'm discussing the psychology of husbandofags.

No. 1664575

>>1664572
>rape scene
Oh yeah, I remember it was Apollo. I remember thinking it was stupid to choose Apollo when Dionysus is right there, ripe for the picking of being a sex-crazed asshole.

No. 1664578

>>1664574
Haha are you jealous LC is husbandofag land?

No. 1664579

>>1664570
Meanwhile the anon screeching about horny women being just as bad as coombrained scrotes and how fujos "literally rape characters" for hours baiting and derailing the discussion for shits and giggles doesn't get redtexted and I doubt even banned. Who will police the police?

No. 1664581

>>1664578
nta but as a yume/husbandofag I feel like even on LC there's only a few of us

No. 1664583

>>1664572
It's kinda hard to imagine all that in that gaudy artsytle or how someone can take it seriously.

No. 1664586

>>1664574
we have insane fujos who transition in the tif threads

No. 1664589

>>1664579
>people who write on topic and break no rules should be banned if i disagree with their opinions
>>1664574
>spam her fantasies of fucking kirby
i have seen obsessions over really weird characters. south park, osomatsu-san, tmn turtles, and transformers are similar. however the reality is probably there is one yume who wants to fuck kirby and 2000 fujo who want yoshi and kirby to fuck.

No. 1664591

>>1664579
At this point, Imma just ignore them and hope other nonnas do the same. I'm tired of the fujo discussions.

No. 1664597

>>1664574
>spam her fantasies of fucking kirby
when did kirbyanon do this…? i think i remember the posts about the slit but i don’t remember her spamming it.

No. 1664598

>>1664597
Maybe she's confusing kirbyanon with rancefag?

No. 1664602

>>1664578
Why would I be jealous of someone whose greatest joy is day dreaming about someone that doesn't exist?
>>1664579
That's actually weird tbh.
>>1664586
Yeah that's true but the ratio of crazy to normal is much more messed up for husbandofags. I also knew a Leon husbandofag who doxxed a user from this site. Fujos at most are annoying and self sabotaging but the husbandofags spam, harass and in general derail a lot of discussions. Don't you remember how rancefag derailed two whole boards for one whole day because she spammed her nudes?

No. 1664603

>>1664598
Idk I saw some of kirbys horny posts on unrelated threads but I guess she's not around anymore, I hope she gets better and I'm not targeting her specifically but her case is an example to how coddling husbandofags ends up bad for them, she literally told her therapist about her sexual fantasies and had to stop theraphy after that, if this stuff wasn't so normalized for her she wouldn't have told the fantasies in such detail and embarrassed herself like she did.

No. 1664604

>>1664586
Are tifs even fujos if they hetbend their gay ships? Like yeah, they might've started out as fujos and developed some weird porn brainrot, but I feel like once you start hetbending, your basically a spicy yumejoshi.

No. 1664605

>>1664603
Lol no one here is going to take responsibility for that, because we shouldn't.

No. 1664608

>>1664604
Whats a hetbend?
>>1664605
I'm not saying anyone here is responsible like how no one is responsible for rancefags actions but husbandofaggotry shouldn't be normalized and they shouldnt be allowed to namefag on other threads.

No. 1664609

>>1664604
Again with this "ackchyually yumes are the tifs", not even you believe that.

No. 1664611

>>1664608
Hetbending is when you change a same sex ship into a straight ship. It used to just be simple rule63, but now it's common to see m/m ships actually be ftm/m. Tims do with lesbian ships too.

No. 1664613

>>1664611
Oh ok thanks. And yeah I guess that doesn't make them fujo then. And again fujos are annoying but they're not malignant so I don't understand why some anons keep trying to fight with them, just ignore the fujos if you dislike them.

No. 1664616

>>1664613
There are certain posters here who intentionally try to rile up fujos or shit on them throughout threads on /ot/ and /g/. It’s probably best to ignore them(derailing. Just report and move on.)

No. 1664619

>>1664616
>There are certain posters here who intentionally try to rile up fujos or shit on them
Then again THEY never get banned. Weird, huh?

No. 1664625

>>1664611
I mean, those are still fujos at the end of the day. You can't just try to blame yumes for everything, we already get ridiculed by every fanbase and now you're trying to spin cringey TIFs on us too?

No. 1664631

>>1664625
That's like blaming straights on the spicy straight phenomena. We shouldn't blame yumes (or fujos) on tifs starting out as pornsick fujos and becoming spicy yumes. Maybe there should be another term for spicy yumes?

No. 1664639

>>1664616
>>1664619
They used to be banned, not anymore i guess. It's just best to ignore them.

No. 1664644

>>1664631
Mousou, a Japanese word meaning delusion or wild idea, since all tifs are delusional. And it fits with the theme of dreams (yume) and other states of mind! Kek

No. 1664654

>>1664639
Fujos actually believe that people who don't like yaoi should be banned.

No. 1664655

>>1664644
I see the kanji are delusion and concept so I think if you add a kanji for women it could work, but I'm not japanese enough to know how to add kanji and pronounce the newly made word.

No. 1664657

>>1664290
It was posted already, please read the thread >>1663989

No. 1664662

>>1664654
are you really defending the sperg who thinks shipping charchters is practicality raping them? if the other anons were banned she should be banned as well simple as

No. 1664664

>>1664654
That's some drug-induced projection. 1/10 bait.

>>1664625
Have you considered that these people are both? They like BL and are also self-inserting husbandofags.

No. 1664666

>>1664654
Yeah kek. They claim anons who hate this kind of spergy retard behaviour, not even fujoshi just autist fujoshi that hate female characters, leak containment when they've derailed the whole thread for an hour and constantly ban evade and ree about trolls like retard twitterfags. They can't keep the autism to their own thread and instead have to leak containment.

No. 1664669

>>1664657
The follow up can be found in the fujo thread reeing about terfs being incels because they said they have internalized misogyny for hating women so much.

No. 1664671

>>1664669
>Terfs hate women
Literally what?? Lol

No. 1664673

>>1664657
That original post sounds like an underage user. I feel like only an underage woman would unironically think women make boring female characters because they only consume children's media. Although I do agree there needs to be games with better written women that aren't pure visual novels.

No. 1664676

>>1664544
Underage posters/twitter users start using lc while fujo-chan is down.

No. 1664679

>>1664676
Okay but fujochan's only been down for a month. This discussion started over half a year ago according to this post >>>/ot/1425222

No. 1664689

>>1664507
>every time i go to the library i am traumatized
KEK.
>>1664407
Has it? I only really see anons saying hating women is dumb on here but not much talk elsewhere. And the problematic thing is because everyone became more woke but women are more empathetic and less mental-gymnastic-y than men so they try to position their enjoyment of yaoi as not fetishy while men just don't care and will continue to fetishize lesbians.
>>1664348
No, just autistic/have no life.

No. 1664695

>>1664671
Their logic seems to be that saying women are dumb for hating female characters when they are so varied due to not having a sexual interest in them is trying to force women to want something sexually that they don't (because saying hating something is stupid is the same as saying they should be forced to consume it right…) and that women who are critiquing them are policing womens sexuality/scrotes hate yaoi therefore women should support it (something I kind of agree with, just not the other 'policing sexuality').

No. 1664696

>>1664695
Samefag and they say anons 'policing their sexuality' are terfs because this site has a no tranny rule/tranny hate.

No. 1664697

>>1664689
>not much talk elsewhere
Tifs on twitter and tiktok hate fujos and men on twitter hate women in general. Pretty much any large fandom will have these types.

No. 1664699

>>1664679
True. It just flares up and I assume they tried to post here once but felt unwelcome so stuck to fujo chan, but came here since it got messed with. This is all just a guess though.

No. 1664701

>>1664673
Yeah, absolutely. Just seems underage.

No. 1664702

>>1664697
They hate fujos while admitting to being ex-fujos I assume to pretend they totally didn't transition to live the fantasy, though the rare one does like fujos.

No. 1664706

>>1664697
Samefagging, but the east is a little different in that fujos and yumes tend to fight a lot from what I've heard.

No. 1664717

File: 1692050221270.jpg (15.09 KB, 1032x115, le.jpg)

Raping characters is not allowed!
>>>/ot/1664419(derailing, report them and move on.)

No. 1664721

>>1664717
Did anon get banned for the twirls mustache part

No. 1664722

>>1664717
Why did this get redtexted and not the various pakichan (or pakichan adjacent) infighting posts? I get the "twirls moustache" is cringe and should get a redtext, but why not redtext the infighting?(derailing, report them and move on.)

No. 1664734

>>1664722
Do you refer to everyone who doesn't like fujos as pakichan
>>1664602
Was this when rancefag got doxxed and revealed to be an abdl fan? I remember that happening. But rancefag isn't only a yumejo, they post a lot in the fujothread and about shota.

No. 1664735

>>1664721
Jannies are the real newfags(derailing)

No. 1664755

>>1664473
Nonna. It's Dostoevsky. Not DostoYevsky. You keep bringing him up in every literature discussion across the site and you're very easy to spot, kek. Is he the only lit author you know? Sorry that you have trouble reading things above elementary school level and want to shit on us smug intellectuals that are able to read actual books and shitty fanfic at the same time kek

No. 1664757

>>1664717
cant even joke anymore?, no wonder this site has been infested with unfunny infights and people that thinks teh internet is serious business(derailing/take it to meta)

No. 1664831

>>1663892
>Aizawa and Deku
Since when was THAT a ship wtf

No. 1664866

>>1664304
theyre pixels , nona. they dont exist
>>1664446
kek i feel you nona tho ill admit the akiko yosano girl is cute

No. 1664870

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>>1663892
>mfw not a single good pairing on this list (imho) and most of the fandoms are boring

Maybe Sirius and Remus should spice it up and have a TEHM (? gay male "terf") foursome with James and Regulus

No. 1664880

>>1663892
im confused why is the race of the characters relevant here

No. 1664901

>>1664602
>I also knew a Leon husbandofag who doxxed a user from this site
Wtf details on this? How would that even be possible unless they had admin powers?
>>1664608
>they shouldnt be allowed to namefag on other threads.
Most of them don't, and the one who does (rancefag) always gets banned for it.(derailing)

No. 1665029

>>1664602
She is actually insane. She's talked about wanting to be a farmhand to find more info about anyone who shittalks her. If she were less careful with her info, she'd have a thread here for sure.

No. 1665034

>>1664602
Rancefag is a fujoshi too, not just a husbandofag.(derailing)

No. 1665035

>>1665034
No she's not. She just wants to see Rance raped by men because she's literally that obsessed with him. She got told to fuck off from the fujo thread when she tried posting her Rance coomfantasies there.(derailing)

No. 1665044

>>1664901
Kirbyfag also used to namefag in other threads. The leonfag learnt info about the other farmer on discord and I know it's leonfag because while arguing about how she was based for harassing that farmer, she sent smutty pics of leon lmao.(derailing)

No. 1665049

>>1664831
You talking about the one with the & symbol? It’s a friendship tag so I think it’s because a lot of bnha fics have found family themes and aizawa is a fan favorite I guess

No. 1665348

>>1664608
>>1665044
Do you guys know what namefagging is? I have never seen either poster use a name. Avatarfagging, sure. But that's not exclusive to husbandofags at all, we've had other kinds of avatarfags.
>>1664574
>two attention whores who happen to be fucked up and have fucked up husbandos start personalityfagging
>"all husbandofags are like this!!"
Kirbyfag is just an autist who got too comfortable getting attention and Rancefag is literally mentally ill and grew up on /r9k/. There's dozens of different husbandofags on this site, but you probably don't notice them outside containment threads because they're just like any other poster. And before those two appeared, the only notable one was Komaeda-chan. On the other hand there's more than one fujo who is waiting for fujochan to come back just so they can talk about shota yaoi in their safe pedo space

No. 1665361

>>1665348
Identifying as x-fag/x-chan and replying when your name is mentioned is namefagging.
The schizo husbandofags are:
Kirbychan
Rancefag
Leonfag who doxxed an anon
Komaedechan
These arw literally half of the namefags we have and they're some of the most destructive namefags.(derailing)

No. 1665364

>>1665361
Samefagging to add that as I said, I also dislike fujos. I can both dislike fujos and yumes, both are attention whores who like derailing shit but somehow the mods ban any yume/husbandohate.

No. 1665376

>>1665365
your parents don’t love you.

No. 1665378

Just ignore and report the avatarfagging. Responding to avatarfags only encourages them to post more.(derailing, take it to meta)

No. 1665380

>>1665378
Are mods asleep? I reported all the avatarfagging derailing 30 minutes ago.(derailing/take it to meta)

No. 1665386

>>1665361
Holy shit, that's not what namefagging means you retarded newfag.
Namefagging is when you put something in the "Name" field of your post.
Being recognized and named by other posters isn't namefagging. What Rancefag does is avatarfagging, and what all of those other posters do has been dubbed "personalityfagging" here on lolcow. It's even in the info page now. I swear, sometimes when I browse lolcow I feel like I'm going insane with how wrong some posters use imageboard terminology.(derailing/infighting)

No. 1665391

>>1665376
Don't reply to it omg.
>>1665386
I'm not a newfag, stop accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being a newfag. Why are all of your replies so argumentative and aggressive? Maybe you should take a break.

No. 1665394

>>1665376
Imagine replying to Rancefag. You're just as retarded as her.

No. 1665397

>>1665391
Sounds like the autist in the meta threads that gets serotonin for minimodding like fuck and gets warnings from mods to stop reporting so much lol

No. 1665419

>>1665386
And adding to this Leonfag is not even a personalityfag, we have a bunch of leonfags who are indiscernible from each other and unrecognizable outside of husbando threads. This anon is saying one of them doxxed a farmer but I haven't seem that at all and I waste way too much time one this place, post milk.

No. 1665425

>>1665394
And it's such a weirdly violent reply too lmao.
>>1665397
I agree.

No. 1665426

>>1665419
AYRT, I agree with you. This is the first time I've seen this "Leonfag" being mentioned.
>>1665397
That ain't me, several people can be fed up with retarded newfags.

No. 1665464

>>1665361
ko-chan barely posts anymore and there's a dozen leonfags.
>destructive
idk only rancefag really fits that description, the rest are usually chill. there's way more destructive personalityfags without husbandos.

No. 1665491

>>1665348
>so they can talk about shota yaoi in their safe pedo space
shota has been banned on fujochan for quite some time now

No. 1665535

>>1663892
I haven't been involved in fandom for almost a decade now but I'm sureprised to see Harry Potter still dominates as one of the larger fandoms. Not because I expected people to boycott HP for transphobia but because I genuinely thought another franchise would had taken over by now as the biggest fandom.
Seeing a Top Gun ship on there is funny when you consider how old the movie is and never had a big fujo following until they made the new movie decades later.
I'm also genuinely sureprised to see a South Park ship. I know South Park always had a big fujo following and creek is the biggest ship in the fandom but I never knew that the South Park fandom was that big. I always got the impression that the fujos where just a loud minority in the fandom. Its even weirder that creek is new on the list because the show has been running for so long. You would think their rise in popularity would had happened when the yaoi episode was released. did something happened recently that might had attracted more people to South Park? because south park has become irrelevant for the general public

Anyway am I the only one that finds it weird that the character's races are listed? Unlike stuff like gen, m/m, etc. their race don't say what type of relationship it is. I know interacial couples has to deal with racism but fics with interacial couples rarely explores this. I guess they wanted to show the characters races to spark discussion about representation in fandom spaces? but then they should had made a separate list instead of cramming it into relationship list

No. 1665543

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>>1665535
It's really weird that fujos are attracted to south park. The characters are drawn like muppets and implied to be in, what, grade school? And it's a comedy skit about shits and farts. But fujos are drawing BL fanart of south park characters and having massive headcanons and husbando'ing them. It's like having the hots for those Rice Crispies elves or Ronald McDonald.

I googled an image and apparently it's such a big problem they had an entire episode on the weird fujo fans shipping.

No. 1665554

>>1665543
Sorry to be pedantic but it’s not implied but an explicit fact that they’re in 4th grade. That’s one of my favorite episodes though, it’s so good. I actually don’t think the South Park fujo stuff was very popular at all when they made that episode in 2015, but actually took off after they made Tweek and Craig canon and zoomers latched onto it

No. 1665666

>>1663892
>Call of Duty at Number 5
I didn't expect that at all

No. 1665690

>>1665666
There was literally a term for this on tumblr, "when you dad or brother shows you a film or makes you play a game and you end up surprisingly liking it" so that's how you get people shipping characters from Jaws or irrelevant action movies.

No. 1665708

the level of infighting, derailing, baiting and general toxicity this thread is generating is absolutely ridiculous. 90% of the posts here are reported and breaking rules. For that reason we are locking this thread.



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