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No. 2290853

This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.

>What is gender ideology?
Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.

Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.

Previous threads:
>>>/ot/2252408
>>>/ot/2191693
>>>/ot/2121106
>>>/ot/2097274
>>>/ot/2037097
>>>/ot/1991983
>>>/ot/1941872
>>>/ot/1894283

Relevant /snow/ threads:
>>>/snow/2063201 (MTF general)
>>>/snow/2058104(FTM general)

No. 2290875

Kek at the thread pic op. Perfectly describes my feelings on this debate

No. 2290890

threadpic made me kek though I still don't think mizuki is trans

No. 2290898

Okay I swear when I looked at thread 8 it was at 1196 posts. Now it's at 1160. Mods, don't kill me.

No. 2290915

What are some good ways to stop gnc and autistic girls from pooning out?

No. 2290926

I hate trannies and I wish they would finish castrating themselves so they inevitably kill themselves. I have little to zero empathy for TIFs too, they’re males little henchmen

No. 2290935

>>2290915
Spreading misandrist propaganda, they will get too busy hating men instead of trooning

No. 2290944

>>2290942
TIFs aren’t GNC and I disagree with GNCfags on socialization theory

No. 2290955

>>2290944
>GNCfags
Oh christ, it's you again.

No. 2290957

>>2290955
Who is it anon, tell me

No. 2290964

>>2290939
you're straight and would suck dick too if you weren't a turboautist

No. 2290975

>>2290915
We need more misandrist spaces like lolcow. I say this as an autistic gnc woman who thankfully never wanted to troon out but used to be a 4chan user and was on the verge of becoming a pickme, this place made me reach the nirvana.

No. 2290976

>>2290944
Then what are you doing in gender ideology hate thread, retard? Go back to reddit

No. 2290978

>>2290939
We called you a sexually repressed handicapped autist because you literally admitted to being suicidal because other women had sex kek

No. 2290980

>>2290957
The only anon who says "gncfags" (yes, I am very confident of that) is the imane khelif sperg who whines that it's actually the gnc women who are upholding gender roles.

No. 2290985

>>2290975
Were you a r9k poster or something? I never understood why so many women that post on 4chan end up becoming pick-mes other than because they want validation from bottom of the barrel men who hate them, always saw most 4chan scrotes as pathetic

No. 2290987

>>2290980
Mwah thanks anon.

No. 2290988

>>2290976
Irony when you should go back to tumblr with your attention-seeking bullshit. Nobody should care about your NLOG gender dysphoria but unfortunately we have created threads to have cows like you proliferate on these boards. No wonder why this website has turned to shit, they keep allowing undesirables we usually laughed at on here because males wouldn’t be this open about having tifs on their platforms, wouldn’t they? It’s all about having to hear about retarded ass women and make spaces for them when all they’ve done is just destroy more shit and use women like TIMs do. This shit is so ridiculous, TIFs are beyond helping and play into the gender matrix because funnily enough they think dressing in stereotypical male fashion is gender nonconforming, not women joining careers and acting in certain behaviors that are only allowed in the opposite sex but now some trendy idpol bullshit where you wear some overalls, read gay manga and call normal women “cunts” and “bitches” to sound male that makes you “gnc”. Hahaha(bait)

No. 2290991

>>2290985
Nah, thats why i didnt become a pickme. I used chill boards.

No. 2290992

>>2290915
I just try to reinforce that women and men can present themselves in whatever way they want without needing a gender about it. I had all the risk factors (into anime, isolated/no friends, gnc and alienated by gender roles in general, used to be fat), yet I still never did because to me it just sounded retarded to even need a gender to just say I didn't relate to other women and didn't have the same interests, and I never believed that made me a man since I didn't relate to them either. I had seen gnc people growing up and in media and understood they were just different types of women and men, which I think helped. I think to really troon out you also have to be kind of retarded and delusional in some way though, so idk if it can really stop someone who is already far gone.

No. 2290993

>>2290975
>autistic
>GNC which is just code for NLOG tomboy playing into ridiculous male stereotypes and think it’s gender-defying when it only upholds maleness
>would’ve trooned out
>feels entitled to “misandrist” spaces so they can bloodsuck off the welfare and kindness of women so they can further destroy themselves and never fix themselves (bait)

No. 2290994

>>2290992
>gncfags admitting to being fat and ugly
Kekkkkk this thread is too easy, they should just shut it down or move it to /2X/ ffs(bait)

No. 2290996

>>2290993
learn to read i never said i wanted to troon out, the rest is just simply projection because wtf

No. 2290997

>>2290975
Yeah it's great to have a site where you can feel real with other women.
>>2290996
delete this it's baiting lmfao

No. 2291002

>>2290994
I said I used to be fat, not that I am now. And that I was gnc aka didn't wear or act like other girls my age when I was a child, not that I was ugly.
>>2291001
What? You must be replying to the wrong post since I never said any of this.

No. 2291004

>>2291001
Did you reply to the wrong post? Where did she say any of the things you just mentioned.

No. 2291005

>>2290988
What possesses you to think that we don't want women in male-dominated professions? Or try to larp as men with misogynistic slurs? Where did you get this strawman?
>>2291002
I did, reposting.

No. 2291007

>>2291002
It's a baiting faggot, nonna, ignore it. Also I don't think there's anything wrong with fat women, you don't have to defend yourself from random anons on that account. Fat women are still women and deserve respect, etc etc.

No. 2291009

>>2291007
Yeah, I guess so.

No. 2291028

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>>2290988
Yeah yeah take your spergout back to /2x/. GNC women are the opposite of TIFs kek

No. 2291049

>>2290915
Stop calling them nlogs or secretly a man for their personality traits or hobbies and mocking their appearance would be great, this site is guilty of all of these things btw

No. 2291065

>>2291049
Yup.

No. 2291071

>>2291049
>this site is guilty of all of these things btw
No it isn't. There's no GNC cowsthread (as much as redditard upthread would like it to be) and nobody makes fun of GNC women for being NLOGs. The only women we call NLOGs are those who claim their "boyish" hobbies make them non-women, aka women who have already trooned out and can't be considered GNC, because trooning out and calling yourself "demiboy" is already very much conforming to gender. Try again.

No. 2291074

>>2290915
Set a good example, and make sure they have an offline social life and real achievements/goals to base their identity on so they don't have to resort to internet communities and "innate" political identities.

No. 2291176

>>2290915
Confidence and self-assurance. Just giving them a sense of worth and comfort with who they are so they don't need to feel like their body and personality are something inherently broken and needing to be fixed. Finding a hobby or something to feel a sense of purpose from

No. 2291188

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What are some women in history that get trooned out? i am so tired of female history being erased

No. 2291201

>>2291188
Every single lesbian.
>This is one of the earliest examples of a trans man!!!!
>Literally just a butch lesbian crossdressing so she doesn't get stoned to death for holding hands with another woman

No. 2291294

I am seeing more handmaidens peaking, and it's such a relief, but they can't get past trutrans.
A couple weeks ago my friend confessed to me that she doesn't believe hormone therapy should be available to people under 18. She almost seemed ashamed to say that and I told her immediately that she isn't crazy or evil and lots of women agree with her. I think she has more gender critical views than even she realizes, she just feels bad about it because the troons told her to.
This morning, a different friend who used to be a hardcore TRA told me she thinks gender ideology is taking us backwards in time. And again, it seemed like this was hard for her to get off her chest for fear of ridicule. She's still a believer in the trutrans thing but she's at least awake to the threat perverted men pose to women.
Does anyone have personal experience with helping women peak fully? So far they are receptive to every radical feminist theory I propose, but they can't stop defending the "real" trans people. I don't know how to get it through their heads that they aren't evil for thinking males in dresses are still male.

No. 2291340

>>2291294
If they're sympathetic to trutrans they might be receptive to the "gender identity is homophobic" angle. It's true and it is a very sympathetic opinion. Like sure, that feminine little boy has been exhibiting femininity since he was very little, and he ended up liking men when he was older, but does that mean he's secretly a woman? Are naturally feminine men just misplaced female souls in male bodies? Is it wrong for him to exist in his male body while being feminine and loving men? Or is it the society we live in that say it's wrong, is it the society we live in that says life would be easier for a feminine gay boy to pretend to be a female, and for masculine gay girls to pretend to be male? Just spitballing some things to maybe bring up to them. Also you could bring up how predatory the SRS industry is, but to people who aren't really in the know it WILL come off as schizo because they just don't know that stuff even though it's all real.

No. 2291343

>Find a cute life story animation online
>Looks sort of like me
>Girl is disheveled and autistic and seems genuine about it
>Feel relief because she might actually be this way and not just larping for moids who jack off to Tomoko
>See trans flag in background

Every fucking time. Can't win.

No. 2291365

>>2291294
Hm I suppose it depends on what angle you want to go with, but IMO my go to is pointing out how we don't treat other mental health issues like body dysmorphia or trans-racials with affirmations. You might affirm a person with dementia because there's not much else you can do and you don't want to scare or provoke them, but nobody actually believes whatever false flag their brain came up with. Doctors don't sign off on people who want to become quad amputees just for the lulz, and if they did most people would rightly see that as corrupt or motivated by greed/lack of care in some way. And a reminder that although many doctors approve gender affirming care, malpractice like lobotomies have been a thing in the past, or dealing out drugs they shouldn't have been, etc. Doctors are humans like anybody else which means they can be just as dumb or crooked or selfserving if they are so inclined.
Even the most passing TIM has only suffered the secondary impacts of femininity being associated with women, wrt society viewing effeminate men as lesser-than because of their proximity to what they see as womanliness (nevermind the fact that women are not inherently feminine). They still never face the same social conditions living as a female has, regardless of how well they pass, because they were not percieved by others from the get-go in such a way. They were not raised in the world in a female body, and can't live as one in adulthood regardless of how much hrt they take or surgeries they have done. Their experiences are fundamentally different, and it's vice versa for TIFs.
Explaining this in a way that emphasizes it isn't out of malice and it's still possible to feel compassion for people struggling with gender dysphoria, but that supporting the idea of trutrans ultimately stagnates actual progress.

No. 2291454

>>2291188
I can’t stand these freaks trying to troon out influential women in history like Margaret Ann Bulkley or Mary Read who only hid their sex because of extreme misogyny at the time. trying to spread the trans label on dead people who can’t defend themselves and never claimed it is disgusting

No. 2291515

>>2291071
Nta but I've seen people make fun of women who just don't relate to other women and don't have female friends on here before, even saw them saying they must be closeted troons when the women themselves never said they wanted to troon out or that they were non women in any way.

No. 2291593

genuine question: has a tim EVER been murdered by a woman for being trans? ever? ive literally never heard of this happening, but trannies seem to have this delusion that women are out there culling them. when in reality, every murdered tranny ive heard of was murdered by a man or another tim…

No. 2291716

>>2291593
Maybe in self-defense. But I've never heard about "terfs" harming or killing toons ever. Yet troons kill and harm women and kids on the regular.

No. 2291724

>>2291294
Make them watch detrans interviews. A lot of handmaidens think the low regret rate is real and that basically no one ever regrets trooning out. It's especially useful when the person in question talks about all the abuse they got from troons after detransing and how they felt like they left a cult.

No. 2291739

>>2291294
I was a handmaiden, thinking back to things that made me fully peak (while my friend who peaked me is still a trutrans believer)
>watching trutrans youtubers, like blair white and buck angel making fun of gender trenders (my friend never made it past this)
>learning about trans surgeries in detail, that a neovagina smells of poop and is literally just an inverted penis
>the mtf thread on lolcow
>seeing rational people like Helen Joyce talk about how it harms women
>seeing gay people talk about how it's homophobic
>seeing what former trans people aka detransitioners have to say about it
>after learning about AGP, seeing "trutrans" people and handmaidens defend it as if they're equally trans
>learning the harms of puberty blockers, and that they're lying about it (so what else are they lying about?)
>reading what JKR said and realizing she was nothing but polite and I agreed 100%
>having my friend point out AGPs (despite her thinking trutrans is real) which gave me permission to see that they're men with fetishes and it's ok to say that
>listening to "Gender a wider lens podcast"
>watching a lot of interviews about gender on Benjamin Boyce youtube channel: detrans, gay people, terfs, whistle blowers, AGPs, trans people, people who got cancelled by TRA

I think it helped that I'm an autist who got fixated on the fact that nothing TRA say added up and they're always contradicting themselves. A toddler boy cannot be signaling he's actually a girl by playing with pink ponies if "boys can like pink too" is true. And I was firmly on the side of "gender non-conforming kids exist" because I was a tomboy kid.

No. 2291757

I got nowhere else to talk about this so I'll do it here. I think it's really weird that Anya from Mouthwashing is voiced by a tim, because her pregnancy was a huge part of her story and it feels almost insulting that her actor will never understand how she feels. I dont know if this is bitchy or not though

No. 2291766

>>2291757
Thank you, I'll pirate it then.

No. 2291776

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I've noticed that when TIFs join Discord servers or online groups, their introductions won't focus on the topic of the group. Instead they will divulge a bunch of information into pronouns, mentioning personal medical information when they don't need to, giving warnings about how to interact them, trying to subtly gender themselves in third person as men, etc. One TIF joined my hobby discord server and wrote a Russian novel about how visually impaired she was so we can't use emojis around her. Another wrote about how she's an autistic gay man who wants to see other male fashion doll collectors like just her. Are all of these people so inwardly focused???

No. 2291777

>>2291757
The more I hear about this game the less I want to play it

No. 2291786

>>2291776
kekk what the fuck i have only had one interaction with a TIF on discord years ago and she was the same fucking way and ended up getting banned too because the discord was 97% male and none of them could put up with her. (they praised and loved every TIM in there though! strange…)

No. 2291793

>>2291757
kekkkk as if i didn't hate this game enough already
tbh i think you're nitpicking here, voice actors don't need to understand entirely what their character is going through. but it's annoying to see a tim get a job meant for women.

No. 2291834

>>2291515
You mean anons saying that about cows? Well yeah, it's kind of a given cow's threads are to laugh at them and it's common for cows to get nitpicked or troonfoiled. But there's support threads for women who struggle to relate with other women on /g/ and no one's making fun of anyone there.

No. 2291841

>>2291757
If Anya is really voiced by a troon I have 0 desire to play this game anymore

No. 2291845

>>2291757
Voice? The game has no voices.

No. 2291854

>>2291845
nta but the game got an official trailer with voice acting recently

No. 2291861

>>2291854
Trannys doing voice acting is actually insane, their voices are literally their biggest challenge when it comes to passing since estrogen doesn't change your vocal cords like T does and the only way to get a more feminine voice is with high risk vocal cord surgery.
Are we just gonna start getting female characters who sound like corpse husband doing a retarded falsetto because trannies are too ugly to do real acting but want participation trophies anyways?

No. 2291870

>>2291854
KEKK skip to 54 seconds, it sounds like a gay teenage boy

No. 2291875

>>2291861
It was funny when they got a troon to voice the troon bartender in the new Harry Potter game and even TiMs were upset at how husky his voice was some even designing a voice mod to make him sound less manly

No. 2291941

>>2291870
kek the young dude’s voice is higher pitched than the troon’s

No. 2291949

>>2291793
>>2291757
Naw that's actually fucking crazy if she is considering her whole story and the fact its the entire motivator for the plot of the game. What the hell were they thinking.

No. 2292004

>>2290915
Sports and ecology. I'm thinking more for autist girls, but really anyone benefits from it, which is developing a good relationship with the physicality of your body, as well as a studying the greater context of the world around you that is far more expansive than our itty human history and infrastructure. Also, learning about non-human oriented stuff is just really interesting and rarely super depressing. Thinking about geologic time is cool and makes me feel better at least because I know the world technically doesn't end due to human destruction, it just goes on without us kek. In terms of being physical, it obviously doesn't have to be playing sports but just learning to move in ways that are challenging, where you can feel the different changes in strengths and limits of your body is super valuable. Could help with other issues I notice autist girls having with recognising hunger/pain/sleep cues. Having these kinds of skills and insights helps immensely with the dissociation that if left untreated can lead to all kinds of health problems, both physical and mental.

No. 2292020

>>2291071
I've been called a moid/moid-like on here for everything from not being able to read between the lines to enjoying mechanically complicated games to drinking monster energy of all things, its absolutely a thing

No. 2292030

>>2290915
Have you tried stop calling them "autists" and unlikeable freaks who only exist to be laughed at?

No. 2292033

>>2292004
I just can't take any kind of feminist discussion on this site seriously. You say that women need to develop a good relationship with their bodies but then go on /snow/ to nitpick women's bodies and insult their appearance. What you say about a "lolcows" body affects all women reading it with a similar body. Funnily enough men's repulsive bodies are hardly ever criticized in this supposed man hating site outside of the ugly man psyop thread. And even there anons are constantly accused of being too mean and shallow for not liking dadbods.

No. 2292050

>>2292033
Yeah, because we can definitely be sure that the exact same people are participating in all threads, that lolcow is a hivemind where everyone shares the same opinion, and any random post should be judged by how consistent it is with another random fucking post in a totally different part of the website. Retard.

No. 2292056

>>2292050
Kek I was coming in here to say exactly this. We share a website with the dumbass who keeps escaping her /2X/ containment to sperg about sucking penis, and kirbychan. The spectrum of experiences is wide and varied.

No. 2292190

>>2292033
Nayrt but I remember lcf admins stating that /ot/ users do not use /snow/ threads that much. In my experience there are more kwf users that use /snow/ than /ot/.

No. 2292200

>>2292020
Post caps because I doubt you just jumped into a thread to say you liked monster energy drinks and someone called you a moid. You sound very autistic and might've accidentally worded things in scrote-ish sexist ways. One time an anon said something pretty logical about a cow choosing abusive moids for the thrill, but worded it in a very incel way sperging about the "nice guys" she ignored in the process, which definitely warrants scrotefoiling imo.

No. 2292226

>>2290915
Probably being openly GNC in public and actually piping up whenever you hear a woman talk about how not being some hyperfem bimbo is proof she's not female. Unfortunately straight and/or male aligned women outnumber us like 10000000000 to 1 so good luck with that

No. 2292262

Seeing actors "come out" as non-binary now is so embarrassing. It's nearly 2025, the tides are turning how the fuck do you think now is a good time to join the child mutilation cult? I'm genuinely embarrassed for them

No. 2292275

>>2291870
On top of the tim, the voice acting is terrible the whole way through. Which idiot decided these characters should get voices?

No. 2292280

>>2291875
why did JKR allow a tim to voice in her game?

No. 2292293

>>2292280
She had to be kekking at Syrona

No. 2292300

>>2292280
She was barely involved in the making of the game if at all. She's just cashing in money on it. Also, I think people sometimes forget that Rowling isn't actually opposed to trans people. She doesn't hate them. She just doesn't want kids to transition and wants to avoid giving up women's spaces and safety to transwomen, outside of that she has no issues with them.

No. 2292307

>>2292280
better question: what TIM would agree to voice a character in the evil terf game?????

No. 2292309

>>2291834
No, I meant other anons. Not that it happens 24/7 or anything, just that I definitely saw people throw around those comments before at just random people here.
>>2292262
Non binary "identities" are just retarded and even their fellow troons make fun of they/thems and say they'll change once they get a job or go outside kek

No. 2292311

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>Facial "feminization" surgery
>It's a 7k brow lift, an optic illusion you can get by waxing your brows, maybe a nose job in case of really ugly mugs.
I wish I was a surgeon to sell lies, it's so easy to make money off of them it's almost insulting. I also love how the "after" pictures are the exact same but with makeup/long hair and never in the same exact setting so you can see a difference at all.

No. 2292314

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>>2292311
Do they think that people are that stupid or

No. 2292322

>>2292311
So what is he on in the left pic?

No. 2292329

>>2292311
Holy shit he's so fugly, good job getting all that invasive surgery just to look like a flaming faggot KEK

No. 2292332

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/05/gender-critical-student-connie-shaw-radio-leeds-university/
>daring to criticize troons being given free makeup money by the student union on ones own private blog can get women fired
bleak.

No. 2292360

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>>2292322
Lacking pic rel

No. 2292361

>>2292033
i don't get why retards here always get mad over cows of this site being mostly female. this is also true for men, they follow and watch mostly male lolcows. if this site were mostly male lolcows, you'd still call it male obsessed or something. haven't you thought that maybe, intrasexual competition plays a part? that these ugly and GNC autist women you like to bully are trying to learn which behaviors they shouldn't do, as so do males?

No. 2292368

>>2292311
He's still an incredibly fugly moid, but I admit they improved slightly on his unhinged AGP Dylan mulvaney serial killer stare. Did he do 100 lines while taking the before pic?

No. 2292436

This video showed up for me, an artist that uses a male character to represent her online and people are now calling her an egg and telling her she is a trans boi in denial, she's clearly annoyed by it and uncomfortable if you read the comments. Trannies always say they are nothing like a cult btw

No. 2292441

>>2292300
And all started because she disliked the women erasure with "people who can menstruate" in an article. TIFs can whine and all, but women are the ones who can give birth or menstruate.

No. 2292831

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there's gonna be a troon in squid game

No. 2293489

>>2292831
They still cast a male actor lol

No. 2293507

>>2292831
not very convincing is he

No. 2293515

>>2293507
Yeah just like the real deal kek

No. 2293576

>>2292332
shit like this is why right backlash is upon us

No. 2293738

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>>2292436
Meanwhile others use the "egg" metaphor way too seriously.

No. 2293743

>>2292831
South Korea picking a terrible time to jump on the bandwagon kek

No. 2293745

>>2292831
He looks like Korean Severus Snape

No. 2293748

>>2290890
he isn't kek. everyone understands this but westerners

No. 2293751

>>2292311
>>2292314
femsoc coming in hard tonight because i feel bad for them lol. even the "best passing" trannies just resemble androgynous twinks (hunter)

No. 2293784

>>2292831
this is so funny, like people are going into the games for cancer treatment and this character is going to get his dick chopped off

No. 2293788

>>2293489
>>2292831
Tras are seething about the troon being a normal man instead of a troon, as if that would be an easy task to accomplish. Saw another viral tweet saying that he needed some lashes, as if they would have said that about a normal woman.

No. 2293848

>>2292831
I wish tv would just go back to token gay characters instead of this shit. it’s so bizarre that a korean show would do this when it’s not as prominent over there

No. 2293874

>>2293848
I feel like this era of Netflix produced Korean shows has made Korean show writers pander to an American audience, and that's already on top of how much South Korea absorbs American culture. Still, it's insane because I still have yet to see a lesbian character in a prominent K-drama, but sure, okay, we can have a fucking TIM I guess. Whatever.

No. 2294049

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>>2291188
Can gender ideology leave her alone? The damn Tsar knew she was a woman, and nothing in her diaries indicated that she felt any differently about the matter.

No. 2294054

>>2292831
It makes me so secondhand embarrassed when they put trannies in shit that like, normie 55 year olds watch. Like at least contain it to Euphoria or whatever please, you're just making everyone's aunts and uncles in Florida more conservative and homophobic with these inclusions.

No. 2294056

>>2292831
This is bro's last role ever. South Korea doesn't play with that shit. He's gonna get demolished by the netizens and his entire family. He can only be cast in western produced movies from now on

No. 2294063

>>2292831
this guy is like 180cm he's going to tower over all the women

No. 2294127

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For those who are feeling doomed and think peaking won't happen any time soon; the lawsuits have started! Those child butchers better start running, because legal justice is coming for them.

No. 2294158

>>2290926
based

No. 2294169

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>>2290915
Show them photos of pooners who got the chop. Nobody wants to look this gross.

No. 2294179

>>2291188
Why are TIFs always “gay” and TIMs always “lesbian”? “SSA” trannies are really just spicy straights kek.

No. 2294180

>>2292200
I'm not going back through months of threads to find this, you don't have to believe me but it happens frequently enough. Real ones remember the days long infight about it being "manly" for a woman to have a job.

No. 2294187

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>>2294169
hey we all thought it

No. 2294189

>>2294169
You guys have zero theory of mind. To a tif, this is hashtag gender envy transition goals.

No. 2294192

>>2294169
is anyone else truly horrified at the normalization of showing mutilated female bodies?

it's not even about it looking good or bad, just the fact that it's literally a female-only body part that they mutilate and you're not allowed to say anything negative about it, you even have to celebrate it

No. 2294196

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>super trans
Tell me when a mammal, not an homo sapiens, thought that changing its sex will help it with its survival.

I'll wait. No, lionesses with mane do not count since is a hormonal issue.

No. 2294200

>>2294196
I know the clown fish has the ability to change its sex, but just because a fucking fish can do it, doesn't mean it is or should be natural to humans.

No. 2294265

>>2294200
>I know the clown fish has the ability to change its sex
Not even really true, clown fish are born with both sexes and just expresses one at a time. So they never "changed" from one to the other, they always had both. Humans and most other animals simply don't.
>>2294196 is also such a stupid take, sex is so binary that we can literally grab any plant and know what sex it is because of how ancient and binary the system is. They're so mad that nature is against them that they have to lie about it. And if anything nature is super straight, so straight that gays can't reproduce at all (except for maybe some rare freak species or if you count asexual reproduction in lizards) and most species existence revolve around straight mating strategies.
And what the fuck is
>"the vast majority of sex is done for fun"
So what? That has nothing to do with troons not being the biological sex they claim to be. Always trying to change the goalpost.

No. 2295121

>>2294196
Kek sex is only fun for human most of the time, animals mate to procreate and have children. It’s only humans and some other mammals maybe who bond over sex.

No. 2295295

File: 1733613392992.png (414.02 KB, 718x1123, 1643599375942.png)

how do they know the baby is male?

No. 2295308

>>2295295
You can see the gender with an ultrasound around 3 to 4 months

No. 2295316

>>2295308
Yeah but if it's "people" and assigning the gender to a baby is a horrid crime, then how do they know that the baby is a boy?

No. 2295317

>>2295308
Anon…

No. 2295323

>>2295317
Shhhhh I’m not good with sarcasm kek

No. 2295326

>>2295295
fun fact! Women with female babies were and still are encouraged to eat less during their pregnancy so the baby will be born "small"(aka underdeveloped ) and boys the opposite, boymoms are groomed from the start to cater everything to their moidlings

No. 2295518

>>2294200
The difference is that the fish doesn’t need a ton of surgeons to do it. Imagine the little fish surgeons…

No. 2295853

>Ermmm, that's not lesbianism bigot, if you're attracted only to cis women you're GYNOSEXUAL!
>Ermm, you're not just a woman, you're a CIS WOMAN!
Holy fuck how much cognitive dissonance do these faggots have to not comprehend that they can't just change the definition of pre-established categories to force their way into them? Not how it works. If you wanna make up a fake identity so bad, how about you make up your own terms and leave women and lesbians alone? If someone's into MTFs, they're not gay or bi, they're Phallosexual. Makes a lot more sense considering the chasers who are into you always dump you once you get the rotpocket, they're clearly there for your phallus! And you're not "trans women" either, let's call you Phallofolx so we can avoid confusions in the future.

No. 2295858

>>2295326
Fact! Women who bear moid children get 2-5 more years shaved off their lifespan when compared to mothers who only have female children.

No. 2295861

>>2295326
It's so fucking hard not to alog sometimes.

No. 2295934

>>2290853
>>2288957
>>2289002
This yuritroon fantasy is hilarious, because no one ever mistakes a TIM for a woman in real life, especially if you spend more than 5 seconds with him. In reality, when a troon "comes out" as a tranny, he's always "presenting male". It's always a hulking man basically telling his loved ones that he's obsessed with the idea of becoming a woman, not a girly, perfectly passing "woman" confessing to "her" friend that "she" was actually born with a dick and the friend was clueless all this time. The latter never happens and will never happen. MtF trannies will never be yuri characters and their lives will never resemble yuri.

No. 2296200

>>2295308
>ultrasound around 3 to 4 months
I think this is extremally fallible. I was deemed a male before I was born.

No. 2296201

>>2295858
Any studies to back it up?

No. 2296245

File: 1733659813397.png (7.02 KB, 435x79, thumb009.png)

https://x.com/4ANGELMODER/status/1864788593576640938?t=SjjMCRU5cB7joj_KgM9UTQ&s=19
I know this is a troll post to get empathy and asspats like "noo we're a big family!!" but dude lol, you are forgetting that people can and will reply with "Yes" kek

No. 2296249

>>2296245
Considering how trans refuse to date trans at a much higher percentage than heterosexuals…

No. 2296328

>>2295295
Assigning gender to children before they are even born. What a cruelty!

No. 2296450

>>2294189
Don't they generally want to look like conventionally attractive young twinks? I thought them embracing baldness and fatness and "bears" was a cope for when T didn't do what they wanted.

No. 2296492

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>The TERFs are mad again
…I’m honestly confused. Am I misunderstanding something here, or are these redditfags seriously that retarded to think that TERFs or radfems are “liberals”?? KEKKK. This subreddit is so fucking stupid. It’s for MLs/Communists who are against “liberals”. These people support Russia/Putin, China, North Korea, etc…but also support trannyism, which doesn’t make any sense to me at all, because I highly doubt trannies would be accepted in any of those places. Can we NOT have a fucking left-wing space that is contaminated by gender ideology. Plus a lot of Marxists/MLs/Communists seem to hate radfems for some reason, a lot are even just straight up misogynistic, yet they LOVE those trannies, which I will always find so damn weird. This type of shit is seriously pushing me away from the left but I definitely don’t want to become a right-winger either. I’m tired.

No. 2297203

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started playing an indie game just to find out it was made by a tranny. and not just by any tranny but an especially annoying twitter famous one. scrubbing that shit off my steam library as we speak. good thing it was free

No. 2297234

>>2297203
What game?

No. 2297244

>>2297234
nightmare kart

No. 2297255

File: 1733690794292.jpeg (1.09 MB, 1170x1548, IMG_9213.jpeg)

>>2296492

No. 2297270

>>2297244
dammit, i've been following that game forever and it's so cute. what a shame

No. 2297295

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>>2297255
The original post is in a trans subreddit and these are one of the comments under it. Apparently trannies love Russia now kek.

No. 2297330

Is anyone else surrounded by people who most likely would be against troons but who just refuse to believe it's happening?
I have close family who just see me as a crazy conspiracy theorist because surely they wouldn't allow self ID, give kids blockers after a 30 min session or let rapists into female prisons just because they said so. Trying to show them proof just makes them roll their eyes like it's all fake. Legit don't know what to do, it's so frustrating.

No. 2297363

>>2297330
why do you want them to care so bad? it's not like they support it. maybe they're rolling their eyes because they are just tired of you sperging about trannies
most of the time people don't care about things that don't affect their daily life. if you really want them to listen you should appeal to something they actually care about or might have encountered IRL. someone is a sports fan? talk about how unfair it is to let males compete in women's sports. someone has a teenage child? talk about gnc/gay kids getting groomed into trooning etc etc

No. 2298426

>>2297244
of course it's made by a lilith. it's like they always pick their name from a bag but the bag only has three papers.

No. 2298453

>>2298426
lilith, amy, sophie, luna are the
4 in my social scene's bag

No. 2298491

File: 1733719841021.png (322.24 KB, 666x611, childabuse.png)

TRAs: Conservatives are so stupid if they think we "brainwash" to kids to discover their gender.

Also TRAs:

No. 2298495

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>>2298491
Bonus track: Trump couldn't do the "TrAnS GeNoCiDE" during his first run and most of the "trans killing" were against each other. Why these people think he'll do it in his second run: Electric Boogaloo?

I know their answer is for delulu

No. 2298533

>>2298491
even 10 year olds arent free from the troon fashion curse wtf. why is he being dressed with the wardrobe of a female senator pushing 60?

No. 2298543

I'm so sick of trannies in my friend groups oh my god. Crazy how they can just say the most creepy/fetishy shit but if you call them out on it you're being a bigot. Just being a bitter loner with no friends seems more attractive than keeping up the charade at this point

No. 2298601

>>2298491
He's so fucking ugly omfg. Ten years old already with the +50 yo AGP who troons out after a mid life crisis phenotype. So much for chemically castrating little boys early on so they can pass better.

No. 2298639

>>2297295
It has to be bots. I know they’re deeply incurably retarded, but no way they’re caping for the country where LGBTQ activists are doxxed and hunted for sport.

No. 2298651

>>2298453
how could you forget Alice???

No. 2298802

>>2294192
It's the woke equivalent of the African breast ironing.
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/7/30/its-evil-breast-ironing-leaves-long-term-scars-for-women-in-nigeria
>When children turn 10, their first double-digit milestone is usually a time of excitement. But not for Elizabeth John, who could only feel dread about what was to come.
>A day after her 10th birthday, three older women held her legs down firmly as her mother pressed a burning hot pestle against her still-developing breasts, unyielding even as the child screamed in pain.
>John said her life changed after her mother forced her to undergo breast ironing in an attempt to shield her from sexual abuse.
>Breast ironing, or “breast flattening”, is a cultural practice whereby young girls’ breasts are ironed or pounded down with brutal or heated objects to delay their development or disguise the onset of puberty, according to the Africa Health Organization.
>Some 25 to 50 percent of girls in countries like Cameroon and certain parts of Nigeria are affected by the practice, according to data from the journal, Annals of Medical Research and Practice.

No. 2298966

>>2297330
Practically everyone I know is like this. They’re either hardline TRAs who spout that none of this is happening (but if it is it’s a good thing actually) or normies who acknowledge that it would be awful if it were happening but refuse to believe it is because that would be too awful. Circular reasoning all around.
I don’t sperg out about trannies out of nowhere but I do bring it up when it’s relevant, like when I saw a bunch of trans flags in the elementary school a relative’s child attends. I just wanted to warn the parents that activist teachers who trans children behind their parents’ backs have legal protection to do so but everyone looked at me like I was crazy because they don’t believe child transition would be allowed to exist. I pointed out a national celebrity who was famously transitioned as a child as well as the fact that the hospital I used to work at has a paediatric ‘gender identity disorder’ department that boasts about prescribing puberty blockers and hormones and referring young girls for double mastectomies, but they refused to listen. They simply don’t want to believe it. They’re going to keep sticking their heads in the sand until it happens to someone they care about and then they’re going to act surprised and scandalised that nobody warned them about it.

No. 2298974

>>2298543
You gotta shit talk them to mutual friends in private. Don't even mention they're trans, just be like "sorry can I vent a bit? Athena just always says the most uncomfortable overly sexual things…" every time they say something, until you all secretly hate them kek even if they're sympathetic at first once you start pointing it out to them they often start to notice it too and eventually join in. If you're lucky another person may turn out to be brave and point out something like "if Athena wants to be seen as a woman maybe she should stop talking like a man to us, sorry but it's how I feel" I've seen similar things said from women in super woke groups who were just about to peak or had secretly peaked already.

No. 2298978

>>2298802
God I really wish someone did a serious documentary on it that pointed out how these things are all connected and how sick it is.

No. 2298993

>>2297363
>why do you want them to care so bad?
Innocent kids are quite literally being mutilated nona. Women are being raped in female-only spaces and having our rights stripped away. It could happen to you, it could happen to your niece or the 5 year old girl down the road. It did happen to someone I know. And they can't even go "wow that sounds bad IF it's true". They just go "no way, that would never happen".
>you should appeal to something they actually care about or might have encountered IRL. someone is a sports fan? talk about how unfair it is to let males compete in women's sports.
I have. Do they give a shit? No, because to them it "doesn't happen." It's really infuriating living with people who sweep everything under the rug and refuse to talk or believe you no matter what you say. I don't keep sperging about it either like you accuse me of, I just bring it up when it comes up such as like around the olympics, or if someone mentions anything related to it.
>>2298966
>I just wanted to warn the parents that activist teachers who trans children behind their parents’ backs have legal protection to do so but everyone looked at me like I was crazy because they don’t believe child transition would be allowed to exist.
I still like to think planting the seed is at least something. If their kid starts to say they're trans and they ever start to doubt it, they've at least now heard it before and that could push them to do research. Hopefully one day these people will be saying "I didn't believe it when I first heard about it, but now I see it"

No. 2299353

File: 1733770723486.png (3.79 MB, 586x7216, IMG_4036.png)

tifs and tims projecting their degenerate fetishes

No. 2299403

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>>2296201
NTA
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2013.12516
They attribute it to boys needing to be breastfed more but they forgot to factor the soul sucking nature of males kek

No. 2299766

>>2299353
Never thought BBC Sherlock would be colonized by TIM fetish posters instead of TIF ones

No. 2299890

>>2299403
>at least for the individuals the team looked at — Finnish villagers in pre-Industrial Scandinavia
Fake news then.

No. 2299899

>>2299890
Eeyup typical "studies"fag posting the most irrelevant and poorly done studies that they only just barely skimmed themselves KEK.

No. 2300030

>>2291949
You just know that if you bring it up as a complaint people will just argue that it's the future so they can transplant wombs or something and then they'll somehow talk about how these theoretical future troons getting raped have it harder than actual women

No. 2300099

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Incredible that they truly blame JKR for everything.

No. 2300101

>>2300099
God I sure hope this trannoid is right! Fingers crossed!!!

No. 2300277

>>2296492
>a lot are even just straight up misogynistic, yet they LOVE those trannies
The two are correlated. They love trannies because they're misogynistic, because they categorically refuse to take women seriously, because a lot of them have an unconscious solidarity with other porn addicts.
>This type of shit is seriously pushing me away from the left
Avoid, ignore. Most online leftists are utterly useless anyways and normie, older socialists of a certain age are generally better on this question (might be very hard to find them if you live in the US). And don't expect anything from leftist men or women when it comes to women's struggle, they've never been good on this question. If you put in the work they might listen when you push back against their bullshit but you can expect a scolding from female socialist wimps. You also risk being banned because while they're happy to claim feminist leanings, they really are allergic to any kind of feminism in their orgs. There are exceptions but they're pretty rare
>>2300099
Damn that's a lot of arrows for very little thought

No. 2300305

>>2300099
people are far more tolerant towards trannies than women, the new millennial right will welcome trannies in for their skills in surveillance. No need for them to worry

No. 2300448

I really wish I had just one female friend who wasn't a handmaiden or a pickme. Or weird in general (met a girl who was neither a handmaiden nor pickme who ended up admitting to me that she lost custody of her 4 year old for beating the shit out of him on Xanax).

Maybe it's because I'm in a conservative shithole, and before that I lived in a liberal shithole.

But it would be great to have someone to talk to who isn't gonna put men on a pedestal. Libfems pretend to be pro women but will say foul things about terfs and uplift ugly fags in makeup. I just want to cry sometimes. I'm pretty open about my views (I don't talk about it alot though) and haven't really received any backlash, even from trannies. But it would be nice to meet someone normal

I also hate that my hobbies attract trannies and handmaidens. I can't even watch video essays about my favorite tv shows without random shilling to troons.

No. 2300455

>>2300448
Samefag but alot of conservative women here are just as bad as the libfems. Like Yea we both don't buy the tranny shit but theyre still pro life male worshipping retards who only hate gay males. I just want a friend who hates all males

No. 2300797

trannies are seriously ruining my mood and hobbies holy shit all they can talk about is being trans. everything they do connects back to their speshul identities…don't you get fucking bored

No. 2300811

>>2300797
i mean seriously i have 100% whined about this here earlier but…fantasy world, you can be anything. you could write a fucking dragon wizard, i don't know, but you want to be a they/she troon? you want to rp using glamors to be more ~femme~? shoot yourself already goddamn 41% let the ffs cripple you somehow i am sick of it!

No. 2301086

File: 1733799510699.jpg (202.12 KB, 1080x729, 1000005279.jpg)

"How can I keep people from learning about my criminal history?"

No. 2301594

>>2300797
Seriously. I went to a store for my hobby and over half the people working there were TIMs. The hobby is moid dominated anyway, but I can’t even complain about the scene being so unfriendly to women without some handmaiden saying ‘but what about Lilith?’ Ugh.

No. 2301754

File: 1733837694330.png (275.46 KB, 662x607, hate.png)

Hate to break it on you, but people have more problems than caring of a John Doe in a dress's pronouns.

No. 2301763

>>2300811
Troons are never happy. If they get to play a tim troon they'll make it about how they should just be a woman and not have to be identified with the trans part because "twaw". If they get to play an actual female character they cry that it's troon erasure to make everything cis and headcanon her as trans. Troons don't actually care about being seen as women, they just want the power and control over people. They care about people pretending to see them as women.
They're not mad their old name came up, they're mad you didn't play along.
They're not mad they look like men, they're mad you won't pretend they don't.
They're not mad about not being allowed in female only spaces, they're mad women won't let them in when they demand it.

No. 2301857

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Not being able to talk about his "many relationships" with young girls who need mentoring is gatekeeping and gives him dysphoria.

No. 2301917

>>2292311
They did file down his lower jaw.
>>2293788
Yeah, he looks like a man, that is the reason he participates in the game. He needs the money to get feminisation surgeries. And with should he wear false lashes, in a game of life and death? Their hive mind really share only one braincell between all of them.

No. 2301929

>>2298491
And why do they think they will be murded? Who told them that? (it's a hypothetical question, we all know who it is)

No. 2301936

>>2301857
So, dysphoria is actually jealousy then.

No. 2302192

>>2299353
In my experiences, most people who do these genderbending trans “headcanons” are usually straight women who call themselves lesbians. They slap on the “butch trans lesbian” label onto male characters they thirst for and get asspats for how super gay and kweer they are for wanting to fuck a masculine male. Trannies usually keep the character the same gender (making a male character FTM)

No. 2302316

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How are you supposed to find radfem friends in real life? I’ve known some people who you would never expect to be radfem in a million years who later revealed their true feelings to me in private, but it’s not like any young women actually go around advertising that they’re a radfem in public. All the things that used to be associated with radfems (short hair, etc) are now associated with enbies.

No. 2302338

>>2302316
Is it bad if the woke soldier turns me on

No. 2302344

>>2302316
the closest i got was working at a small mom and pop shop that was mostly females. one girl was very loud about politics, but it was mostly normal right wing trad stuff and some of us would murmur about our own takes, which were much less right wing. none of them were radfem but it was the closest i got

No. 2302360

>>2302316
I feel like it's impossible. I either find handmaidens who would drop me if they found out I don't worship trannies or women who are gencrit but trad. There's no winning. I've only been able to find other radfems online.

No. 2302375

>>2301857
How selfish. Outreach programs like what he is describing are always desperate for male volunteers and mentors. Men are very much needed as mentors but rarely do they have enough to meet the number of boys in the program. If he was truly interested in being a mentor then it shouldn’t matter and he would be volunteering now. But instead he’s viewing the program as some sort of validation for his degeneracy and life choices, rather than as a means to help people.

No. 2302376

>>2299353
I can't believe one of them tried trooning out Shu. Leave Itsuki alone.

No. 2303138

>>2302338
yes

>>2302316
It really depends where you live nonnie, but I think the best way to spot a radfem (or potentially normie/radfem adjacent woman) is to look at how little she conforms to beauty standards. I tend to find women (gender conforming or not) tend to be a bit more accepting and understanding when I talk about radfem topics if they already do things like not wear makeup, don't particularly shave, seem a bit more laid back when it comes to how they dress. There's subtle cues, but you have to learn to pick them.

No. 2303848

File: 1733929009417.jpeg (1.56 MB, 1290x1240, IMG_2141.jpeg)

MN house of representatives appointed a TIM to their reproductive freedom committee, everyone please clap.

No. 2303858

>>2303848
The colour palette is so retarded kek

No. 2303934

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>>2292156
>>2292157
most “pro-trans” men are like libfems, naive liberals but any man whose passionate about trans-rights, is usually a pervert and a sex pest

No. 2303939

>>2303934
he looks like a chaser John, like the exact type of guy who travels to Thailand to fuck trans lmao

No. 2303990

>>2303848
Please tell me your pic comes from that guy's blog/carrd/site and not from a gov official page, what the fuck are those colors

No. 2304148

File: 1733943377519.png (1 MB, 1213x1632, GeiMHVEWIAA1VTe.png)

Trannies on xitter are currently seething over Imogen Heap being GC lmfao

No. 2304151

>>2304148
I haven’t heard of Imogen Heap in forever. Based

No. 2304153

>>2303934
Those ladyboys are prostitutes who know a John when they see one. Dude probably tweeted that with one hand down his trousers.

>>2304148
Aw good for her

No. 2304204

>>2304148
Oh my gosh, I love her music. Now I love her even more. Thank you for posting this here!

No. 2304217

>>2304148
Imogen Heap I love you forever and everrrr!!!
I wonder if the recent uptick in troons finding her music (Headlock went viral because of a stupid Mouthwashing edit) and shitting up the comments to her music videos contributed at all to her liking that tweet lol, with how terminally online-ness and fandom brainrot are comorbid with genderism.

No. 2304222

>>2304148
>i'm gonna be that one friend that's too woke and remind y'all that fuckin white lady is a TERF!
god they're all so fucking annoying. just remember that musician you like? she's a heckin white lady who needs to be condemned and you should feel bad for listening to her music! they're all so tone deaf they don't even hear themselves. always ready to point out someone's white, you already know what the rest of their tweets look like

No. 2304224

>>2304148
just needed to add that "white" in there as if that justified the hatred towards a woman with common sense
Also this obsession they have with blaming white people for twansphobia is so retarded because people of all races hate trannies

No. 2304231

can someone explain to me why east Asians latched on so much to trans? they are typically tradcon, but I would think their proximity to STEM would mitigate the Kool aid drinking, compared to Latinos who are tradcon but primed for magical thinking via religion. but they are pretty up there with handmaidening and pandering. is it bc of the Thai ladyboys so it's easier to accept as a concept? sucking up to whitey? anime influence?

Asian LGBT are also super insufferable and batshit

No. 2304247

>>2304231
I know that with China it's because of the huge sex-ratio imbalance. With Japan, perhaps because of how much female beauty and "moe" is worshipped?

No. 2304249

>>2304231
I haven’t noticed Asians being more into gender ideology than other races? I don’t think the ladyboy subculture really exists outside of a few SEA countries (like Thailand), and I’ve seen just as many white weebs troon out due to debilitating hentai addiction as Asians. I’m not Asian and don’t live in an Asian country tho so maybe I’m missing something

No. 2304280

File: 1733949630202.gif (1.69 MB, 220x391, IMG_4850.gif)

Why do FTM keep calling themselves dykes or butch? I thought you were suppose to be a man so why are you calling yourself a DYKE Or BUTCH?. Why do spicy straight women call them self butch they wore a t-shirt? Why do ACTUALS MALES TROONS cal themselves butch dykes? Lesbians who are female and doesnt have troon delusions have gone extinct.

No. 2304286

>>2304148
>I'm gonna be that one friend who is REALLY ANNOYING AND HATES FUN

No. 2304293

>>2304231
Are you asking from personal experience or thinking of in/famous public figures of some kind?
This pertains to the diaspora/immigrated population in the West, but a popular cope I've seen from all races is "we got colonalized back in the day and the white man brought the knowledge of two sexes with him," which ties in neatly to all those other ahistoric claims that say shit like "sexism and homophobia didn't exist, or was sooo much tamer, in our cultures before the white man came."
It's all cope tied up with the genuine racism they suffered. Troons and TRAs of all races are intellectually lazy, they want One Solution and One Big Bad Guy they can blame so it's an easy thing to seethe at and blame, while at the same time allowing themselves to throw up their hands and go 'the problem is too big! We can't do anything about it!'
Another explanation is misogyny is such an iron-clad presence that they can't really see a world without gendered stereotypes and attacks being intertwined with sex. So to try to opt out of one, they opt out of the other as well. It's really weird because most women recognize that it's a bullshit game and try to play in a way that benefits them one way or another. Troons are doing the same thing, just in a sometimes more demented way.
>>2304280
I'm not dead yet nona, don't give up hope.

No. 2304308

>>2304231
Any conservative society is already primed to accept gender ideology because gender ideology is tradcon roles for the sexes repackaged. Someone who already thinks a woman MUST be feminine and a man MUST be a macho caricature finds it less dissonant to process that some faggot is actually a woman because he’s effete and sexually interested in men. It’s why the “third genders” are almost universally gay men who “failed at being a man” and are pushed to be a third, secret thing. Lesbians are less readily re-categorised like that but it’s also easier for them to see it as a form of correction. From then the spicy straight AGPs and fujotifs simply latch themselves to that understanding opportunistically to shill their own fetish-motivated pseudoreligious cultlike ideas.

It’s also why I know a bunch of fujotifs in fandom despite being in Latin America. Gender ideology is conservative.

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No. 2304442

>>2304404
My condolences to the transformers nonnies here who have to put up with this and also can't easily filter out the word "trans" on ao3

No. 2304479

>>2304404
My jaw actually dropped watching this kek what the fuck. "People who aren't female or male" is insane, talk about moving goalposts. Wtf happened to "gender and sex are different mkay!"

No. 2304590

>>2304308
>Gender ideology is conservative.
It's literally just this.
You can't accept that men can become women, and women can become men, unless you see men and women as nothing but walking stereotypes and rigid gender (actually sex) roles. It's the horseshoe effect, woke progressive people are so far gone they circled back to being more conservative than the conservatives.

No. 2304605

>>2304280
>Why do spicy straight women call them self butch they wore a t-shirt?
Most of them are so entrenched in beauty culture they consider clothing the only indication of femininity/masculinity. They don’t consider a full face of makeup or perfectly styled hair as feminine, they see it as being female.
“Butch” FTMs operate on the logical conclusion of that thinking. They think women are intrinsically hyperfeminine, and thus being GNC makes them not women.

>Why do ACTUALS MALES TROONS cal themselves butch dykes?
Mediocre men want to be congratulated for merely existing, in this case for being a gender-confirming heterosexual. Standard moid behavior.

No. 2304609

>>2304404
Oh my god, the cringe… Nobody fucking talks like this, but I fear for a future where autistic who copy everything from cartoons and tv will eventually normalize this robotic (no pun intended) "Xer pronouns are xe/xir!" bullshit. Do kids who watch these cartoons even know what they/them means?
>Someone who isn't male or female
We're all either male or female. Yes, even intersex people still primarily present as one sex and only have certain attributes of the other. The retardation…

No. 2304612

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>>2304404
>me watching this and knowing this will finally give conservatives the final incentive to make hostile 1950s level homophobia come back

No. 2304613

>>2304280
>Why do FTM keep calling themselves dykes or butch?
Because they wanna have their cake and eat it too, they want to get the privilege of identifying as trans, but don't wanna let go of the lesbian label because having to identify as a straight man wouldn't sound very woke, kweer and oppressed of them. So they keep moving goalposts and now claim FTM can be lesbians.
Honestly would be pretty based if they used the same logic to tell male trannies they cannot identify as lesbians because it's still a label based on your sex and sexuality, but of course lesbian has just become this meaningless umbrella term that all trannies appropriate as they please with zero regard for actual homosexual women.

No. 2304618

>>2304612
Am I crazy for thinking this will probably be the best outcome? I hope lesbians don't face any negative consequences from it, but those videos of gay pride where moids were literally pissing into each other's mouths and waving their micropenises around while wearing fetish gear in broad daylight with kids just a few feet away radicalized me. It's gotten to the point where lesbians have less and less rights every day, yet gay men are allowed unprecedented levels of public degeneracy. The whole LGBT movement is becoming a male supremacist hugbox to normalize male degeneracy and push lesbians and normie bi women out.

No. 2304620

>>2304404
This is so ridiculous. How is this real? I doubt any kid would watch this slop kek. And why do they always make the female characters into themby kweerios while the male characters get to stay as normal male characters

No. 2304679

>>2304404
DISGUSTING. This is how troons win, by brainwashing children. This is aimed at preteens, isn't it? The thing they want the most at that age is to feel unique, they're just developing their personality and ideals, and media is shoving this shit in front of their faces and saying "you can be special too! Be non binary! Be trans! It's so cool, all your favorite heroes are doing it!" The whole generation is lost. They don't stand a chance. A generation of castrated lifelong patients. I'm not a conspiracy theorist usually but there is something nefarious behind this bullshit. Population control, eugenics, stuff like that. There's no way this shit just blew up organically to the level we see now in only 10 years.

No. 2304736

>>2304679
I dunno, they might be shooting themselves in the foot. Kids want to be different, and once they relize every one of their friends and their mom too is a flavor of trans it won't be cool anymore, once everyone is special, nobody is.

No. 2304740

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>>2304404
The 21st century is the most embarrassing time period in all of human history. The elites are planning something, aren't they? What are they planning? It feels so obvious but WHAT IS IT?

No. 2304809

>>2304740
They want the almighty dollah in exchange for prescription drugs and cosmetic surgery revisions.

No. 2304842

>>2304740
the culling

No. 2304985

>>2304231
"their proximity to STEM" is an insane thing to say about an entire ethnic group that includes most of the population of some of the largest countries in the world

No. 2305052

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I wonder for how much longer can the tranny mods and their dick worshipping sycophants carry on censoring the GP true feelings about trans shit? Obviously female centered subreddits are too infested with those freaks to ever be for women ever again but in other subs I will randomly see people speak the truth about how retarded it all is and it's like the mods either don't notice or care. I saw people getting fed up with "non binary" actress Emma Darcy (plays Rhaenyra in house of the dragon) because she keeps projecting her identity onto a character she doesn't understand on a fundamental level. She wants to change Rhaenyra even more than she's been changed to be a nonbinary masc sword wielding ruler who doesn't give a fuck about her kids. And some of the people in the sub aren't having it

No. 2305055

>>2305052
Samefag but if shit wasn't so censored by trannies all over the Internet less people would feel pressured to go along with it.

No. 2305165

I'm convinced that TIFs don't have autism but another, worse thing. Maybe a personality disorder?
I thought I about this while working with girls with autism and asperger: either they are actually mentally retarded to the point that they need support even to write/read and have the needs of a child or they cannot believe this bullshit.
Aspie girls are really against telling lies and a main trait of theirs is that they're blunt and very analytic and critical. For them saying that a woman can be a man is equal to telling a lie, which is to the core, but their brain are so against it that they cannot even say it. They feel out of place but surely not because of gender, in fact, to them "gender" means nothing at all. Feeling out of place isn't a diagnostic criteria but being too critical, with a strong sense of justice and preferring honesty over feelings kinda is.
I'm so sad that these very intelligent girls that use critical thinking to the max are being lumped up with girls playing pretend.

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Excellent, now ban HRT.

No. 2305203

>>2304404
Good luck to localizers and translators all over the world who have to put up with this shit, and thank god I gave up on becoming one long ago.

No. 2305222

>>2305165
>Aspie girls are really against telling lies
Man dont be delusional, the biggest liars in my life were aspies. They just lie for convenience or thrill, then sperg out about how lying is bad but actually have extremely elaborate tactics about the lies they make and they keep track of all of them so they never get caught. Until they can't do it anymore and it causes insane meltdowns with arguments like "autistic people can't like" and acting like a literal 5 year old caught doing something bad. Seen it too many times.

No. 2305228

>>2305190
This and the bathroom bill being enforced are actually incredible hopefuel. I used to be a doomer who rolled my eyes every time GC women would see a comment section of women peaking and claim the tide is turning, but is the tide finally turning for good? I think they're gonna quietly try to turn everything back to normal (and shove all the horrible medical malpractice they've been doing on preteens under the rug).

No. 2305230

>>2305222
Literal speaking and thinking is literally a crucial diagnostic criteria, that's why aspie girls are often seen as "rude", keep in mind that asperger moids are often misdiagnosed when in reality they have bpd

No. 2305234

>>2304148
anons are praising her for being cool but i also heard she's a trumpie. so it might be based "i understand women as a sex class" gnc-ness it could be more tradfaggy and conservative

No. 2305236

>>2304679
yeah i agree with >>2304736. i think more corny, hamfisted dialogue around gender shit in media as well as blatantly false statements (neither female or male) will make not terminally online children/teens/etc. cringe away from it or think it's another embarrassing sjw thing. whatever the term for sjw is now

No. 2305242

>>2305234
Honestly, who cares? Tradfag trumpie women are currently doing more for feminism than any girlcock guzzling libfem.

No. 2305259

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It’s crazy that TRAs can just say something, without any backup and they’ll all believe it kek. It’s just cultish behavior.

No. 2305262

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>>2305259
If you associate with Harry Potter you’re a terf apparently.

No. 2305266

>>2305262
are the wokies still cetegorizing JK as a terf? Do they not know in the game Hogarts Legacy you don´t choose a gender?

No. 2305267

>>2305259
I love seeing people immediately switch up on her lmao . I was getting tired of her new TikTok headlock mouthwash fans anyways kek

No. 2305268

>>2305266
I think they took 1 thing and ran with it as per usual

No. 2305273

>>2305230
man idk what you're replying to but I had actual diagnosed autistic women sperg out to me about how skillful they are at lying and tricking people. I've also been on the receiving end of this so it's just a myth that is quite easy to uphold.

No. 2305275

>>2305267
Nonnie, headlock has been trending on tiktok for over a year now, it has nothing to do with mouthwashing.

No. 2305293

>>2305165
Some of the most persistent liars I've dealt with have been both male and female tists at work who hide behind the whole 'but I'm honest to a fault' stereotype.

No. 2305314

>>2300797
If they participated in hobbies normally while happening to be troons I could ignore it but trans is literally all they talk about. Any discussion about any form of media devolves into discussing which characters are trans. They can't even complain about work or the weather like normal people, it always loops back to trans. I've tried to be nice and relate to them and they've told me I'm also trans and should go get my tits cut off.

No. 2305317

>>2305314
With TIFs, I think it's genuinely a cope most of the time. Most of them get to the point where they (subconsciously or not) realize they made a huge mistake, but it's too late to back out now because they'll never look like normal women again and they're stuck with beards, baldness and atrophied enlarged clits incapable of orgasm. Most TIFs who are into women end up being T4T not out of genuine attraction, but because they feel inadequate and freakish being with lesbians who actually look and function like normal women, they can't help but be reminded of what they've lost. It's that same sentiment that makes them try to troon out every normal woman so they don't have to feel that bad about having fucked up their bodies permanently.

No. 2305319

>>2305273
One woman vs. a diagnostic criteria. Statistic, girl and actual liars don't brag about being liars, that wouldn't be beneficial. Actual liars and malignant liars do not expose themselves.

No. 2305330

>>2305319
This is derailing and has nothing to do with the thread but you're eating up their bullshit. Statistics can be also altered because no one would confess to being a liar. How exactly are these things measured? Is it a test where people answer questions about themselves? That's nuff said then. If they trust you and treat you like an insider they will sperg out. Gosh it's like you never met one. Autistic people can and will lie, they can also be extreme assholes and manipulate others to get what they want while pretending to be smol innocent beans. Get over yourself.

No. 2305331

>>2305314
This is so true. Anytime I saw troons discussing media they always tried to make it into either a trans thing or shitting on "cishet" (bleh) people or whatever, it's like they're incapable of talking about anything that doesn't revolve around trooning once they've done it. I'd be having a normal conversation with someone else online then in comes the troon talking about how actually (insert piece of media) sucks because it doesn't have enough troon representation or some other bullshit like that. Like nah, that makes it better and it doesn't need that retarded garbage in it that will age like milk once people get over this shit. Or just talking about how he took hrt that day and saying stupid women stereotypes. It's bad enough that even the well meaning normies I knew started getting tired of their shit after a while kek

No. 2305341

>>2305165
I agree, but I also wonder if it's more complicated. A lot of aspie girls are also into nerdy media, and if you are, all your friends will be TIFs. I know for me, I didn't really understand the social rules, so I constantly upset them by asking questions about what they mean by "he's so gender," why they think women can't like "masculine hobbies," and how they avoid doubling down on gender norms. I just didn't understand I wasn't supposed to ask, but they guilt tripped me and were so upset when I did that I learned to stop asking. Aspie girls will probably be called "agender" by TIFs, or at least I was. It's their way of convincing you their system accommodates you. I can see lonely aspie girls convincing themselves of this system (it does have categories and rules that might be appealing) or being pressured into masking their discomfort because they don't want to be alone.

No. 2305347

>>2304618
This is why as a bi woman I don’t associate myself with the LGBT anymore. It really is just a movement mainly for gay men and the trans now, plus homophobia towards lesbians seems to be on the rise while I hardly hear about or see homophobia towards gay men anymore, and trannies are treated better and get more respect and privileges than women now. I don’t know why exactly but it seems like misogyny has gotten incredibly worse in like the last decade or so, maybe even shorter than that. The right and the left are currently expressing misogynistic views, which can feel pretty alienating to women and like nobody really gives a fuck about us.

No. 2305364

>>2305234
Luckily not I can't find it but she said that she follows literally anyone and she seems to just be a centrist. She follows 26k people
>>2305242
not really

No. 2305399

>>2305364
also samefag but I forgot to mention she also has a song about how terrible trump is, she doesn't like him lol she just follows anybody

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>>2290853 ah mb i didnt know, my point still stands though. i've loved imogen's music for years now and i hate seeing people "cancelling" her now

No. 2305437

>>2305347
>I don’t know why exactly but it seems like misogyny has gotten incredibly worse in like the last decade or so
Apparently it's a cyclical anti-feminist pushback that happens every decade or so, for every few years we get to experience a small, but significant feminist boom; we get like another decade of malding and male supremacist backlash. I do agree it seems to be aggravated by the utter degeneracy porn and the internet in general have brought along this time.
>>2305364
>not really
I mean, Nancy Mace is passing a bill to keep bathrooms sex segregated. Trumpies are passing bills to stop giving puberty blockers to minors. What are libtard women like AOC doing for women and kids being groomed by trannies and big pharmas besides asking people their pronouns?

No. 2305438

>>2305190
I was just reading about this, this is amazing. The government can't sort anything else out but at least they're saving children from fucking their lives up on a whim.
And there's a good chance that the kids who get trooned out by their attention seeking parents will now manage to escape physically unscathed instead of being mutilated for life by the people that should have protected them. Now that the UK is seemingly more proactive with addressing mental health issues, we might even see more trannies desisting or detransing once they're no longer depressed or terminally shut in.
>>2304736
Agreed, this is too goopy to be cool. Plenty of adult women will fantasize about being Sam and making friends with a super cool genderspecial robot who's just like me, I mean her, but kids are way too cynical to unironically enjoy this slop. Sam looks like the personification of social suicide, she has no personality aside from pronouns, if anything this shit is going to peak kids out of being thembies.
It should be in the animation thread, it's almost as boring as that retarded Tom and Jerry bootleg.

No. 2305445

>>2305347
I just cannot support the lgbt activist organization (that organises/funds also most of events, gay bars etc) in my country because they are pushing for trooning out children. Sad because they have done so much good in the past like helped legalise same sex marriage and parental rights for both mothers in lesbian couples.

No. 2305461

>>2291757
it is weird but that was mostly for a promotional nomination game awards video. same person also voice daisuke. there is no voice acting in the actual game itself

No. 2305544

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downvoted for being too gender = scary

No. 2305580

>>2305437
>What are libtard women like AOC doing for women
Expanding reproductive rights/health, acknowledging things like pay gap, protecting rights for minority women. We may be in the gender ideology thread but feminism isn't just hating troons. Republican women are handmaidens, not for trannies, but for old pedophiles like trump. Anti trannyism should be bipartisan but it's not the only pressing women's rights issue rn

No. 2305581

>>2305341
>It's their way of convincing you their system accommodates you. I can see lonely aspie girls convincing themselves of this system (it does have categories and rules that might be appealing)
This. I spent my whole life not fitting in with other girls and women and being told that I’m not doing it properly, where it is ‘being a girl’. They could never articulate what I was doing wrong exactly, just that I was doing it wrong. If someone had come along and told teenage me that this was because I had a male or non-binary brain in a girl’s body I would have eaten it right up. I do click better with other aspie girls and if all the other aspie girls are identifying as non-binary too then well, doesn’t that prove that we really are a different category?
>being pressured into masking their discomfort because they don't want to be alone
This, too. I long ago learned to defer to others when it comes to social matters that don’t make sense to me. Don’t ask why you have to shake people’s hands, just do it. Don’t ask why it’s rude not to make much eye contact, it just is. Stop asking, it’s annoying and makes you unlikeable. Just believe us and do what we say. I doubt I would ever have truly believed TWAW or TMAM or that penises can be female or whatever, but I (and I guess many other ASD girls) have been primed to shut up and not question things that the majority of people are telling us ‘just are like that’, especially if asking too many questions results in being ejected from the only social group who will have you.

No. 2305830

>>2305445
Yeah they DID really do good, in the past - now they're hurting the very people they claim to help in inexcusable terrible ways. Its important to be able to spot when something that used to be good turned bad and to be able to admit to it and turn back.

No. 2305840

>>2300099
amazing how trannies take offense at any sort of basic feminism but then get mad when you point out how the trans movement is detrimental to the women’s movement

No. 2305866

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>>2305830
nowadays supposed “lesbian” organizations like National Center for Lesbian Rights just focus on defending violent pedophiles like picrel and making sure they get their fetish surgeries paid for by taxpayers

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>>2305544
I read this retarded post. What a stupid bitch. Back on the “scary lesbian sub” people rightfully told her to go back to her hugbox subs and stop telling them how to feel and what to say in their space. It’s literally this meme all over again.

No. 2305969

>>2304618
ayrt, sadly this means lesbians and bi women will also face horrific levels of misogyny-fueled homophobia too. we used to be locked up for wanting to have sex with other women. we couldn't get housing with our partners. this is more than just the marriage thing, it affects every part of our lives. i've gotten nearly fired a few times in a couple of jobs in the past just because someone is lesbophobic against me and wanted me gone. no one deserves to live like this, even if gay men are fucking annoying.

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>>2305866
Where is that 2.5 million even coming from? Why is a child rapist getting 2.5 million? Why is a child rapist even alive to get that 2.5 million? This world is a goddamn circus.

No. 2305984

>>2304618
I think it’s probably because of overall misogyny.
That being said, I really hate how some gay moids use the worst feminine stereotypes ever, and the overall sassy and catty shit. It screams of misogyny and yet they don’t see it and don’t reflect on it. I would even say, they are worse than straight moids in some aspects because the mask is off. They don’t want anything from women and therefore don’t feel the need to play nice.

No. 2305987

>>2304618
No it would not. Lesbians get misogyny AND homophobia thrown at us. We aren't just magically exempt. God I find fags annoying but I get suspicious of people who are fine with setbacks because they hate fags.

No. 2306015

>>2305165
Funnily enough nearly every single detrans female I see at least claim to be on the spectrum. Autists do get roped into it more easily (due to being vulnerable), but they're also the first to peak and call it bullshit in my experience. I truly don't think most crazy tifs are autists either.

No. 2306023

>>2305293
If they're such persistent liars they likely lied about being on the spectrum nona, especially when literally using that stereotype as leverage to lie. That's just too calculated and manipulative.
>>2305314
>If they participated in hobbies normally while happening to be troons I could ignore it but trans is literally all they talk about
Oh my god same, I'm so sick of them turning everything about troonity and nobody is allowed to call it out or they risk being called transphobic and oppressive. I can't think of any other group that is this level of self-obsessed and devoted to their cult.

No. 2306028

>>2305969
I really don't think there's any chance of things regressing back that much, nonnie. The way things are going, transactivists are actively making it easier for women to get fired for being lesbians considering lesbian=TERF in a tranny's pov, even if you walk on eggshells around them and don't even mention trans people. Women have already gotten fired for simply stating sex is real, even in medical fields. I think gay men, and by extension trannies, losing their immense privilege over both straight and SSA women will only be a win for us considering they're constantly using that privilege to destroy women's rights and enforce their right to be public degenerates, which makes all homosexuals look bad as a whole.

No. 2306031

>>2305866
What is the source? This reads like rage bait.

No. 2306156

>>2305981
tax dollars
>>2306031
you could just search up the title instead of asking nonas to spoonfeed you but here
https://reduxx.info/child-rapist-awarded-2-5-legal-settlement-over-gender-affirming-care-access/
and here’s the NCLR article which hilariously enough completely omits his crimes or his victim’s statements on the matter
https://www.nclrights.org/about-us/press-release/19164/

No. 2306170

>>2305866
Are these people really so fucking evil they unabashedly help make child rapists lives easier, or are libtards such fucking retards they keep "accidentally" picking the only minorities who happen to be child rapists to campaign for? They literally do this every single time. Remember when everyone was campaigning for this TIM to get transferred to a woman's prison and get hormones or whatever and he'd brutally raped and dismembered a little black girls corpse? Or the black man arrested for domestic violence wokies got released, who immediately went on to commit femicide against his victim hours after becoming free?

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>>2305866
This reminds me of when GLAAD stopped all funding for lesbians and focused all on trannies, and how afterellen published an article about "sense8" showing "representation" of a lesbian and tranny kissing, and how autostraddle ("lesbian" publication) released an article about how to have sex with a pre-op tranny (written by a tranny in detail with pornographic language).

No. 2306387

>>2304148

This is how they peaked JK. They kept trawling through her likes for wrong think BS and lambasting her for innocuous shit she favorited. I hope she doesn't back down and tells them to fuck off. This policing of what she's allowed to like or believe by the perpetually online is annoying AF

No. 2306477

>>2306170
For reference, the TIM you mentioned is a Latin Kings gang member called Luis Morales / Synthia China Blast and his victim was 13-year-old Ebony Nicole Williams. Laverne Cox campaigned on behalf of Morales / Blast by referencing his character on Orange Is The New Black, a TIM incarcerated for credit card fraud, which added to the illusion that TIMs in prison are nonviolent and harmless. But like you said, practically every TIM who TRAs campaign on behalf of has turned out to be a violent sexual predator. Apparently even they can’t find any nonviolent TIMs to campaign for and settle for simply ignoring the fact that their latest project is a serial murderer or child rapist. You’d think that at some point they’d look at themselves and wonder, “Are we the baddies?” but no.

>>2306387
Remember when her PR team tried to write off her liking GC posts as a ‘middle aged moment’, just a silly middle aged lady not knowing how Twitter works and liking things by accident?

No. 2306524

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I have no words. The dude looks like such a creep.

No. 2306542

>>2304404

No. 2306553

>>2306524
Why do so many het couples both troon at the same time?

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>>2290853
saw this on ig yesterday. for context, these two are a 'queer' couple (two women) who have a video series where they 'explain' things to their baby like the baby is an adult. normally it's cute stuff like the olympic games or whatever but one of them is a genderspecial and got the titchop, so they made a cutesy video 'explaining' it to the baby and calling her breasts "daddy's lumps." of course, because of the titchop she won't be able to hold her own child for weeks.

i really worry for the children of these sorts of parents.

No. 2306556

>>2306387
Insane to me that they're still talking about what's in someone's likes now that likes on twitter aren't even visible publically anymore. They can't really do this policing anymore with current tweets at least since it doesn't show you what someone liked
>>2306553
Seems like it's either their cope for the partner trooning out, or they also have an "awakening" from seeing how their bf/gf says they're trans because (insert not fitting into gender roles super rigidly). Maybe they feel like they can't leave so end up doing that instead.

No. 2306562

>>2306553
They hate gay people. They think that identifying as a different sex changes one's sexual orientation. So they can still be queer but straight but better than straight because they are T4T.

No. 2306579

>>2306555
Tgat titchop money shouldve gone to a weight reduction surgery god, she can't even close her legs.
Hope their child grows up as normal as possible, both in the gendie and health way.

No. 2306598

>>2306553
Usually the man goes first and makes no secret of the fact that he believes woman = misogynistic/porn tropes, so a sufficiently brainwashed wife may end up questioning whether she is a woman at all. I mean, if husband Lilith Athena knows he she is a woman because he she loves scratchy lingerie and getting cat called and is too much of a ditzy bimbo teehee to work, where does that leave her, who doesn’t identify with any of that? Plus they see their husbands being lovebombed by everyone around them just for identifying as trans and probably want some of that, too. By the time they realise it only really works that way for TIMs and not TIFs it’s too late and the sunk cost is too high.

>>2306579
If a woman that size wanted a breast reduction surgery she would have been turned away and told to lose weight first, not least because surgery and anaesthesia are far more dangerous for morbidly obese people. But if she’s genderspecial those risks disappear apparently.

No. 2306602

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https://x.com/PunishedAG/status/1867247619837440347
Oohh right! Now troons care so much about children with precocious puberty! And you were believing that they were transing children?
God they're such bad liars

No. 2306621

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I love when they eat each other.

No. 2306645

>>2306602
lol the consequences of using pubety blockers on healthy kids and teenagers to troon them out remind me a lot of when kids have a delayed puberty because their pituitary gland barely works, so clearly this talking point of theirs is bullshit. They don't give a fuck about anyone with actual hormonal issues regardless of what it is and don't mind seeing young adults suffering from osteoporosis just to prove a factually incorrect point. This is also the same issue when MTF tards compare themselves to menopausal women who genuinely need hormonal treatments. These men don't give a fuck about these women because they don't mind stealing resources from them.

No. 2306646

>>2306621
noticing that TIMs can boss TIFs around and make fun of them while also acting like the victim. wonder if the troon hierarchy gets annoying to TIFs as well. almost like changing your pronouns to he/him doesn't make men respect you

No. 2306652

>>2306646
>wonder if the troon hierarchy gets annoying to TIFs as well.
Probably, it's not like they'd say anything publicly though. I've always seen that a lot of TIF detransitions involve TIMs to some extent.

No. 2306654

>>2306646
>wonder if the troon hierarchy gets annoying to TIFs as well
It is, but every time the few brave tiffies dare speak up about it, male trannies REEEE about how they're just like terves for daring to criticize the holy penis-owners, and go mask off and say stuff like "typical from an AFAB".
To combat being called terfs, tifs made up their own ridiculous version of transmisogyny, "transandrophobia". Which of course prompted TIMs to endlessly mock them for being MRAs and thinking men are oppressed (the irony KEK, you can't make this up), and berated them for being oppressive transmisogynistic AFABs again. Go through the transandrophobia tag on tumblr if you wanna have a big laugh.

No. 2306671

>>2306646
Tiffanies are inhaling a shitload amount of copium. They are too far into their delusion and are afraid of being seen as oppressors if they detransition, like jeovah witness that get basically exiled after leaving the cult, that I think that personally they will not detrans but I'm sure as hell that they're starting to notice that the male entitlement is still there, even under layers of estrogen. Males also know how to guilt trip, they love to call other people traitor and stuff like that, the bad thing is that tifs are morally weak and deep into a crab mentality and if they weren't, they weren't tifs to begin with, and yet it takes a drop to agitate an ocean, tims just need to dig their own grave even more.

No. 2306674

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>post online about an obscure album i listened
>months later the musician somehow finds this post and replies to it, ranting about how their music isn’t for bigoted terf losers like me or whatever
>do a deep dive on said musician
>apparently he’s a tranny pedophile who got dropped from his record label for grooming allegations
the jokes write themselves

No. 2306689

>>2306646
TIFs notice the hierarchy and sometimes try to talk about it as "transandrophobia" or "transmisandry" but they quickly get shouted down by TIMs and the TIFs who worship them.

No. 2306698

>>2306689
tifs gets shut down because the rethoric is that they "choose" (kek) to be the privileged class so since misandry doesn't exist in woke species and misogyny does, tifs now have the power and tims are poor little angels with a lot of struggles and tims use that at their own advantage of course but since going against a troon is transphobic no matter what and being labeled as a transphobe means worse than death, they are basically chained in the cage of lies, they simply have to truly wakeup and connect the dots.

No. 2306737

>>2306602
The precocious puberty use is already controversial, there's tons of women who have come out about having used puberty blockers to treat it only to end up with severe osteoporosis and joint problems in their late 20s and 30s. Like break your hip, lose teeth, jaw joint begins to erode level. The bone problems were never disclosed when it was prescribed and wasn't even a listed side effect. Even worse, they only recommended those women be on the drug for a couple months at a time and acknowledged long-term use was risky. But for transing, because a child might get some cosmetic benefit down the line, we should just ignore all that and prescribe it for years on end. Idk those drugs are so fucked, there was a really great article maybe 5 years ago about women who had precocious puberty treated with it, then in adulthood were calling for them to get banned, but it's basically impossible to find now cause of the trans stuff. Some of them women were saying they had more surgeries at 30 than their grandparents at 80.

No. 2306740

>>2306621
KEK. They really have no actual oppression going on in their daily lives and need to invent ways to feel like those nasty women are hurting them

No. 2306752

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>>2306645

No. 2306767

>>2306752
Aren't people with actual physical health issues also put on a list unless they seek medical care in private hospitals in the UK? Am I supposed to feel sorry for a retarded teenage boy killing himself because he thought he was sooo special and unique?

No. 2306769

>>2306752
did this neanderthal think that puberty blockers were going to fix his shitty premature aging moid genes? mf looks like a 40yo child predator

No. 2306787

>>2306752
Moids realise they're ugly and start using trannyism as a cope.

No. 2306862

>>2306674
This is funny because I feel this all the time for my own stuff (not a musician but I do art), yet I don't act retarded and tell people they can't look at it just because they're a troon. Sounds so conceited to try to control who listens to your music, he should be grateful anyone even cares about his shit despite him being a disgusting troon.
>>2306752
They always call themselves names like "Alice" or "Lily", it's so gross. I hate the phrase "gender affirming care" too, it's not care at all it's literally just mutilating your body because you're mentally ill and think you can become a woman. Delusion affirming care. If this fugly stunted retard was so sensitive he died just because society didn't enable his delusions enough he wasn't going to survive in the real world anyway.
>>2306787
True kek. I think TIFs do this too, they don't fit into the beauty standards so they troon out instead.

No. 2306894

>>2305259
Kek Imogen has issued a statement where she denies she is a terf and basically says that the whole thing is stupid and she doesn’t have time for it, she’s busy with her own life.
TRAs are saying that she’s committing DARVO and the fact that she doesn’t openly prostrate and say that trans rights are absolutely human rights then she’s lying kek. These people are so cultish, they always act like rabid dogs , but somehow only to women. I never see these campaigns against men.

No. 2306906

>>2306752
>Puberty blockers at 16/17
KEK they would have done absolutely nothing at that age.

No. 2307003

>>2306752
the language and arguments sound so dumb post-peak
>let kids have hormones or else they will commit mass-suicide!!
also
>her body she didn't want
next time you read pro-troon slop, notice how many times TRAs refer to bodies as some possession to easily modify and match an eternal subjective gender soul. as if you are not your body. as if there's a parallel universe where troons have the "correct" body and god made a mistake.

No. 2307324

>>2291593
It happened once in Japan

No. 2307325

>>2291593
>>2291716

No. 2307346

>>2307325
I've seen this before and she was so based for this. I laughed when I saw comments saying something like "and yet they say this never happens." kekkkk.

No. 2307362

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>>2307346
Yeah it happened… once lmao. They will conveniently ignore all the moids who murder troons because they couldn't handle being seen with a man though.

No. 2307365

>>2307346
>and they say this never happenes
women murdering troons or troons raping lesbians? because its not a good idea to use this gross rapist to defend your cause

No. 2307370

>>2307325
This troon raped her, he deserved it and based dad too for helping her. Women dont need to kill any troons since most of the time they do that job themselves

No. 2307384

>>2307362
Reminded me of something that happened in the city nearby me. A man dating a troon got into an argument with them, then beat them to death and left their body in a ditch by a gas station. Their secret hatred comes out eventually somehow. You never heard of troons finding true love, they die really fast by suicide or getting murdered by someone.

No. 2307409

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You wouldn't be thrown under the bus if you didn't post fetish shit or CP while crying about transphobia.

No. 2307419

>>2307325
there's some recent comments that are saying she was just as psycho as her victim (new info from the court case)

No. 2307515

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maybe you should get some real problems dude

No. 2307518

>>2307419
>she was just as psycho as her victim
>her
are you referring to the tim as a woman?

No. 2307524

>>2307518
i dont think she is

No. 2307526

>>2298601
You're being unnecessarily mean to a child that is getting brainwashed by predatory adults. Trans kids, even male ones, are victims of grooming.

No. 2307562

>>2307526
These retards aren’t groomed. They watch porn and sissify themselves into being degenerates who think they’re women. They fetishize women’s pain too.
The only ones I can have pity on are TIFs in certain instances, but a male committing suicide? Good fucking riddance, there are way too many scrotes anyways.

No. 2307563

>>2307562
My bad , thought you were referring to the 16 year old TIM kek. But still, my point stands, I don’t give a fuck.

No. 2307619

>>2307324
>>2307325
I always heard about this case that the dude wasn't even a troon, he was just an occasional crossdresser that liked to pressure lesbians into sex. Not really much of a difference per se, but a part of me want to separate him from regular troons so tims don't get more ammunition they can use to turn themselves into victims - even if that creep was right to be murdered.

No. 2307623

>>2307518
Learn to read English.
She (the woman) … her victim (the woman's victim)

No. 2307653

>>2307409
How are they even thrown under the bus in any way? Almost everywhere you go online except sites like these bends over backwards to satisfy them. Twitter still hosts them and their bullshit despite Elon taking over too.
>>2307515
This DUDE needs to shut the fuck up kek. I've been called dude or bro by random guys as a woman and I don't throw a tantrum about it.

No. 2307662

>>2306752
This guy died from being surrounded by asspatting enablers who convinced him he was a true woman instead of telling him to get therapy for whatever issues he was actually dealing with that made him troon out in the first place.
Moidlets who troon out can suffer from porn addiction but there's usually something more sinister happening alongside it, like that 16 year old who was stabbed in London who was a coke addict. Clearly his accepting and loving parents weren't doing a great job since he was going out to get high in the middle of the night, you have to wonder what else was going on in that household. Same with this one, he was probably going through some unrelated shit, saw enough estrogen memes to think that inverting his dick would save his life, and killed himself because nobody offered actual help.
>>2306555
Imagine hating yourself for being bi/lesbian that you get the tit chop and hold your own actual child and pretend it's a cutesy widdle thing that all parents of indeterminate gender get.
I follow a TIF lesbian who's married to a 'queer' woman (gay but her wife's a man and she's self aware enough to know she doesn't like dick) and it's just this. Them and their circle of fellow TIFs and TRAs patting each other on the back for their surgeries, cheering at the testosterone redness and acne, throwing parties for transition days. These women include women who were treated like shit by their own families for being women, girls who escaped forced marriages when they were in school, women who were raped and gaslit by their moids and wanted to change their bodies to get rid of the memories. It's insane. I get TIFs doing this with other TIFs but when actual lesbians are involved it's sickening, what the fuck? These women watch their fellow women destroy their bodies and brainwash themselves into thinking it's a replacement for therapy and they're all happy about it. Nightmare world.

No. 2307792

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Trannies are subhuman. What is this shit?

No. 2307805

>>2307419
they say this about any women who isn’t a total doormat

No. 2307845

I was thinking about something, last year at my uni class there was a TIF, she never mentioned it. However some of my classmates were like "he's the man!" or "he's the best dude ever!". They don't do it anymore, but I wonder, were they trying to be supportive or to convince themselves this short woman with short hair and makeup is a man?
Similarly I ask cuz there's a new classmate this year who is also a TIF but she doesn't even try, the only thing she has going for is that she's taller than all other girls in my group but she has super long hair and dress the most casual way possible (just jeans and hoodies, like come on). She always says things like "I'm the best son ever" or "I'm just a guy". Does she actually believe she's a man or is she trying to convince herself? I think she just trooned out this year before joining my course cuz a lot of teachers still misgender her and even her deadname is still on the uni database lol. Side note but whenever she's not present and my teachers refer to her as a woman by classmates are always like "HIM! HIM!", it's so funny lmao

No. 2307934

>>2307365
AYRT my bad for vague wording it was 4am when I wrote the post kek. It was lesbians saying "and yet [TRAs] say [transwomen never assault lesbians]" when they commented "and yet they say this never happens." It was tongue in cheek.

No. 2308000

>>2307792
effects of porn brain rot

No. 2308003

>>2307419
I don't care if she was

No. 2308025

>>2307653
Here we use "bro" on anybody and I have never seen a woman correct me saying "call me sis", just "I know, right?". Imagine being so sensitive to cry over a "bro".

No. 2308191

>>2307515
Aren't "baeddels" the openly MRA troons who started the idea of AFAB privilege? Their opinions can be discarded even faster than other troons' can.

No. 2308197

>>2291593
i recall brianna ghey was partly fixated on by his female murderer for being trans specifically, and she seemed to be the ringleader between herself and the boy who killed him.

No. 2308198

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They complain about their parents yet they give their own parents hell with their decisions. GAC isn't just surgeries and hormones. These teens that want to be trans so bad… Cannot wait until they are 18? If Mom says no to a lip ring, why would she say yes to a procedure that she's most likely going to fork out thousands for? Even porn stars take out loans, get the cosmetic surgery they've always wanted, then pay it off with onlyfans. Is it really that unattainable? At this point, they just want money, or to see that people around them care.

Someone I knew complained about how white trans people get more money than those of color in GoFundMe. And somehow that applies to them. The real reason why nobody donated to their GoFundMe, is because nobody knew them and they already discarded 90% of the people that cared about them over being trans or adopting that Tumblr hivemind personality they got at a young age.

>>2306752
Some of these suicides come across as tantrums. GoFundMe is not a magical fairy you can summon once you utter that you want someone to pay for your body modification.

No. 2308208

>>2307792
What. The fuck. "Black New World Order"? "Black Baby Factory"? "White Genocide Black Supremacy"? And the black baby dolls… I'm speechless. When will this freak's house burn down with him in it?

No. 2308211

>>2307792
There's a ton of troons into bnwo and BBC shit, typical wm shenanigans tbh

No. 2308213

Somebody explain it to me why gender is a social construct and not biological

No. 2308221

i think i said this before on lc but i honestly think that if women lose all rights and the only thing we're meant for in life is to be bred like animals and chained to a home, with zero career options, zero ways to travel, the whole nine yards.. trannies would no longer exist. think about it. they think being a woman is fun because we're basically free in the western world (not for long i fear), but once that turns around, will they stick around or will they destransition and pretend that none of that happened? being a woman is all fun and games when it's about makeup and getting fucked by a straight chad moid, but when it's about being forcibly stuck in a subordinate role doing boring shit like keeping house and child rearing all the time..

No. 2308230

>>2308221
>>2308221
Your conclusion is correct but your logic probably only applies to a tiny minority of passing HSTS, men who don't pass would never be expected to adhere to rules for women.

If women were forced to be broodmares there would be no transcel AGP trannies because they'd get their govt assigned bangmaid and no longer need to 'become the gf' as a cope for being undesirable. The married men who troon out probably wouldn't bother either since they'd have so many other options to freely abuse their wives. The remainder of trannies would have a fetish for the situation, but there aren't enough men who want a tranny wife so they'd go prison gay for each other and LARP the life of a woman with no rights.

No. 2308243

>>2308213
Gender and sex are intertwined and cannot be separated. Gender is merely a list of non-biological traits or stereotypes that are associated with their retrospective sex. It's either a way for enforcing actual biological essentialism i.e woman = homemaker, man = likes cars or it can be just a bunch of sociologists trying to understand why certain traits/interests are associated with either sex. It's a fairly outdated concept and it was never supposed to mean that you as an individual could have a say in what you gender is because it's something that's ultimately decided by society.

No. 2308252

>>2308243
>Gender and sex are intertwined and cannot be separated.
It's even simpler than that imo. Gender and sex are the exact same thing, gender is just a euphemism so we didn't have to use the word sex all the time. Like, 'gender roles' sounds more polite and academic than 'sex roles'. Crazy how trannies turned a semantic quirk into a identity-defining philosophy that their whole lives revolve around.

No. 2308257

>>2308213
Gender does not exist, at least the modern definition. It was a synonym for sex since sex obviously refers to intercorse as well. Gender roles come from cultural stereotypes and expectations for men and women because of our biological differences. Same with sexism, men oppose women because we are physically weaker and bare children.

No. 2308450

>>2307845
They treat gender like an accessory because they're boring as fuck. I think it's a good thing that younger people are essentially treating troonism like a handbag, because it's less likely that they're going to take hormones and get surgery, the most they usually get is a haircut and a few new clothes.
Nobody would think these women were men even if they did cut their hair and wear men's clothes. All the 'He's the MAN!!!!' is for virtue signalling only. See the TIF threads for how little women pass even when they've been mainlining T for 34 years. Ellen Page has had face surgery to make her look like a man, she's rich enough to get the best gendie treatments, she's on T, and she looks like an old depressed woman, literally nothing at all like a man. Pronoun pins exist because troons know they don't pass at all.

No. 2308490

>>2308221
I thought about this before too. I think it would definitely stop being as trendy as it is now, because as it stands men think being women is life on easy mode and assume if they became us that their life will automatically improve, which they can't say as much if women have no rights anymore or are brought down by men. The irony being that it never really became easier to be a woman even if some of us have rights now. I constantly see incels, male feminists (lol) and in general failmales thinking if they troon out they'll be able to start an OF and get money from other men (could've just done that as a dude) and live a great life without making any effort, since they assume every single woman has model tier looks, no dignity and that all she has to do is show her ass online to live a cushy life modern day when this isn't even accurate at all to the average woman's experience and most of us work normal jobs. All while dealing with misogyny and male threats of violence, harassment, ageism, menstruation, pregnancy…That said, I bet a lot of them would still fetishize the whole wife with no rights thing and being submissive and beaten since they're freaks. And maybe TIFs would want to troon out even more to try to escape being female like they're already doing now.

No. 2308493

>>2308230
>The married men who troon out probably wouldn't bother either since they'd have so many other options to freely abuse their wives. The remainder of trannies would have a fetish for the situation, but there aren't enough men who want a tranny wife so they'd go prison gay for each other
Married men with AGP would do what they have always done; wear their wives’ lingerie in private and cheat on their wives with other (pseudo)bisexual married men. Gay men will probably do the same, only getting married for the social and domestic benefits and fucking other men behind their wives’ backs. A lot of gay men my parents’ age did this before same sex marriage was legalised.

>>2308450
I wish this were true, but many transtrenders who treat transgenderism like an accessory treat hormones like an accessory too. I know more young women who casually use testosterone to ‘just masculinise their jaw a bit’ or ‘just lower their voice a bit’ than women who get fillers.

No. 2308506

>>2308213
Sex is a biological attribute. Humans are either male or female. Intersex conditions are genetic defects the same way as having 6 fingers is a genetic defect, and the existence of people with 6 fingers does not mean that humans have between 5 and 6 fingers. Gender is the expectations that your society places on you because of your birth sex. They are socially determined. For example, western society dictates that people born of the biological female sex must have long hair, wear makeup and wear dresses. This is called a gender role, and it varies according to time and culture. For instance, in historical eastern societies, having long hair, wearing makeup and wearing dresses was something that both male and female biological sexes were expected to do, and not associated with one particular sex. However, having lotus feet (in the case of ancient China) was socially expected of the female sex, and was thus a gender role. If a male had lotus feet, he would have been gender non-conforming, because he was adopting the gender stereotypes of the opposite sex instead of his own. However, having lotus feet does not change his biology into that of a woman. In this way gender is socially constructed but biological sex is not.

No. 2308513

>>2308257
The correct phrase in English is “bear children” not bare. Sounds the same but different meanings.

No. 2308547

>>2308506
I've been seeing Swyer syndrome being tossed around, and I looked it up. Apparently they're classifying people born with XY chromosomes as "females" who don't have any formed ovaries. The whole research is confusing, and it seems like there's a defect in the Y chromosome? I'm honestly skeptical that it's a Y chromosome at all, and it's a deformed X.

No. 2308582

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my gorgeous beautiful stunning twitter mutual started hrt. another one bites the dust.. i'm so tired anons
we're in eastern europe how the fuck did she even get on it??? i was hoping this cancer would stay in the west but clearly it's spreading

No. 2308624

>>2308582
I found out yesterday that one of my mutuals is likely poisoning herself too. She's in her 30s, older than me, she should know better. When will it end…

No. 2308625

>>2308582
Not from eastern europe but where I live it's like they're copying what the americans have been doing for a while with all this troon shit but like 10 years late. It's like being sent on a time machine to when troonery was starting to get big because I already saw this shit from being online and engaging with americans for years. It definitely feels bad to see especially when I also didn't think it'd reach here.

No. 2308679

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I already said I suspect one of my friends of wanting to troon out. She had to move back to her country two years ago and I haven't seen her irl since then, and healthcare where she lives is shit according to her so I have no idea if she can medically transition, but she keeps making grammatical mistakes in our first language that make it look like she's talking like a guy and it's happening more and more often so now our other friends are also suspecting something. I'm not talking about third person pronouns the way English speakers do, but about adjectives and nouns in first person. The issue is that they're all TRAs except me. So when our other friends and I talked about her this week irl the one who said "maybe she's transitioning" looked like she was already happy for her. The friend I'm talking about would fit the "privileged sheltered fujoshi from a third world country who may be autistic and has too much anxiety to have a normal conversation irl" stereotype to a t, this is so uncanny. If anything like this happens in 2025 I'm mentally preparing myself to not consider any of them my friends anymore depending on their reactions.

No. 2308692

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>>2308213
>Somebody explain it to me why gender is a social construct and not biological
Picrel Sources:
>gender knot 3rd edition https://files.catbox.moe/ynnayc.pdf
>https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-11-21-mn-59217-story.html

No. 2308712

>>2308213
gender in the sense of the roles society assigned to certain sexes IS a social construct, but that construct would not exist with sex existing first. if anything, you can't have "gender" without sex. theyre inherently linked too each other. personally I feel like the problem with transgenderism is trying to define "gender identity" due to the vagueness of it and the implications that one decides what their gender is based on certain social roles or being a man or woman. majority of people don't have an inner sense of being their sex like TRAs claim, they just are that sex regardless if they choose to conform to said social roles or not.

No. 2308722

>>2308712
>if anything, you can't have "gender" without sex. theyre inherently linked too each other
It's true. Society is not tolerant of people of a certain sex adopting the gender of the other, there is no such thing as a biological man whose gender is feminine; if he adopts feminine gender roles he is not a "female man" but a gender non-conforming man. That descriptor itself contains a judgement value, that of which he "should" be confirming to his gender roles but is not, and that makes him deviant and an "other". For a society that rejects the existence of GNC people there is only one reality, the one where you follow the gender roles attributed to your sex. And if you can't follow them, you must change your sex. Gender ideology 101.

No. 2309022

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stolen from kf but this is precisely why I'm glad the UK did what they did with puberty blockers and the U.S desperately needs to follow through with the same. how anyone not seeing how this is blantant child abuse is beyond me. no child can "choose their genders" and fucking their endocrine system with cross sex hormones during a critical stage of development isn't going to make them go through the opposite puberty either. I really do feel for these poor kids who get groomed into this

No. 2309115

>>2308582
>>2308625
Asian countries have already been affected. I’ve read that about a year ago Japan’s government said it was “unconstitutional” or something for there to be transgender bathroom restrictions and that trannies should be allowed to use the restroom that matches their gender identity (despite gay marriage still not being legal there kek). Middle Eastern countries have always been more lax and accepting of trannyism, obviously more than gay people and the female sex itself. If this fast spreading cancer hits Eastern Europe next, especially Russia, then I feel like the world is going to be really fucked by then, and it would honestly really surprise me, cause that’s the very last place anyone would expect it to exist there. It’s like anything that’s a big trend in America will soon spread out literally everywhere else because America is such an influential country. This shit honestly fucking scares me.

No. 2309213

>>2308252
This, gender and sex are the same thing. My native language literally had to invent a new word for "gender" because of troonism (which still contains our word for sex). Splitting them was only done because English uses sex which also means to have sex, and thus is too crude to say out loud. Gender roles are roles based on sex, gender stereotypes are stereotypes based on how the two sex behave, gender doesn't actually exist separately from sex because they both refer to the same thing.

No. 2309309

>>2308722
If society became less strict about gender roles do you think there would be more or less trannyism? Right now I feel there is a horseshoe effect for those who are GNC where trads expect theme to be forced into the stereotypes of your sex and troons expect them to troon out. I don't think either is a good solution for those with social discomfort around those stereotypes.
Being a GNC female is punished by both men and by women who fill the expectation more easily, this site is full of women who scream "NLOG" at every little thing. If people were more accepting of being GNC, I wonder if it would be easier to accept "I don't fit the popular idea of how my sex should be, but that doesn't mean I'm the opposite sex" and such people can accept themselves as individuals first without hinging their self-image solely on whether or not they fit stereotypes. It feels to me like people just want to identify with a group. I'm sorry if I sound retarded and idealistic but this matter is genuinely very confusing to me.

No. 2309357

>>2304280
I am still here, it's lonely though

No. 2309361

>>2308722
>>2308712
>>2308506
Well put, this is very important because in a public forum if anyone wanted to change the minds of other intelligent people around them, one must to bring up gender and sex to show how transpeople are a mix of sexist kinksters and self-hating homosexuals that were groomed and turn into groomers.
It's important to poke holes in trans logic this way otherwise nobody is really going to see and know TERF positions at all, the use of only looks-bashing as a strategy is not enough and pushes others away from seeing the truth.

No. 2309377

>>2308625
>>2308582
I'm not eastern european but I feel like I already know what kind of people do this, super terminally online weebs who are so obsessed with western politics and culture that they think they are liberal westerners

No. 2309383

>>2309309
Yes, I wholeheartedly believe this nonna .

No. 2309384

>>2309022
They really think that these drugs are harmless

No. 2309457

Unpopular opinion but it feels like the mainstream troon movement is dying down. We could just be seeing a backlash. Anecdotes but I’m seeing less pronouns in bios and normies not talking about it as much. Doesn’t mean the damage hasn’t been done

No. 2309460

>>2309457
it used to be cool and trendy but now it's too mainstream especially with both political sides of the culture war using it as talking points. so naturally it will die out slowly with hipsters and only autists behind on trends will keep trooning

No. 2309529

>>2309457
I saw some freak out posts on tumblr because of the growing use of the word detransition by people who don't identify as trans anymore, along with people using they/them pronouns more often to completely bypass having to call a troon by their preferred pronouns

No. 2309547

>>2309457
I think that the more the most normie "surface" level talks about troonism, the less is appealing. Being trans was and still is to some degree the cool thing but not the cool niche thing with a strict community, idk if I'm putting that right. I think that most of the tifs on tumblr most likely grew out of it but since they made it big the first time and the tumblr ban made people flee to twitter which is a more normie site, made this cool and totally unique niche get on the surface and so only autists (which are paradoxically too autist to realize how bogus that is, this type of autism is like a mild mental retardation) and porn addicts take the bait. Gen Z is less and less interested in sex stuff and on the other hand, being trans is not cool because it's so normalize now, that it all lost its appealing. It's the normal trend circle but this is destructive because I just know that it will leave behind a shitton of corpses with mauled breasts and frog voices with back fur. You can't exactly go back from this as idk, being emo and this is why it's scary but I'm glad it is slowly losing its appeal.

No. 2309655

>trying to explain to someone that gender identity is harmful: “it’s not considerate to sell someone a lie”
>”you see it as a lie but I see it more as an identity that should be allowed to be seen”

What???

No. 2309688

>>2290853
>>2308582
nta but as someone who had the displeasure of being friends with a tif (also in eastern europe) who overshared everything about her life, it's not as hard as it looks sadly. anyone who wants hrt without years and years of psych evaluation just orders testosterone online via those seedy websites. those roided gymbros apparently do the same all the time, and because eastern europe is lacking on drug laws one can reasonably get away with it.

No. 2309703

>>2309457
I think it's dying among normies but I don't see it dying among autistic nerds any time soon. It's too firmly entrenched as the only way to make friends in those communities and too many people have medicalized and fallen prey to the sunk cost fallacy.

No. 2309772

>>2309703
Yeah that's similar to why they get so mad over the use of "detransitioned" picking up politically because it implies that the person has rejected being trans, but it's almost a bit contradictory because they want everyone to be experimental with transness. Some people are going to see how ridiculous or a lifelong commitment it is and decide it's not for them.
At this point I think most normal people are realizing that trans employees/graduates are personality napalm and it's starting to effect where they can work or behave, hence some really starting to tone it down as they get older.

No. 2309773

>>2309457
Honestly I will only say that it will be done on a mainstream level when self-ID gets abolished and a public official statement is made regarding males in female spaces (from healthcare , prisons and even toilets). We are still not done here.
I never cared about trannies when they just used to stay on their lane and I don’t care if a scrote wants to chop his dick off and take estrogen as long as he pays for it with his own money, same with a woman.

No. 2309774

>>2309457
Yup, every year I see a tiny bit more resistance to troonism but this year really escalated it a lot more! Puberty blockers are being banned in more and more places, the cass review now exist out in the open, athletes are finally being heard and people publicly boo at troons winning sports, detrans people are being seen and heard in more mainstream places and they've got lawsuits going now, pronouns are silently disappearing from bios. And it's now been around for so long the kids are getting bored of it, it's no longer cool and the would be future trans kids can now clearly see that if they go down that path they'll be just like the rapidly aging green haired, fat, bearded and smelly overly emotional themby down the street. It's just not as appealing when you can see the reality of it.

Even WPATH knows their days are numbered as they've switched the narrative from "it's lifesaving care" to "it's a journey of body goals" kek they know they're fucked

No. 2309775

>>2309213
The word gender can also be about grammatical gender, so having separate words for "gender" and "sex" in some languages is normal but many languages don't work that way so there's no real reason so have separate words for them.

No. 2309841

>>2309115
>It’s like anything that’s a big trend in America will soon spread out literally everywhere else
True, it fucking sucks.
>>2309377
That fits the ones I've seen from my country trooning out. They're usually people who spent way too much time online and absorbed all this american shit as a result. Weird because I also spent a lot of my time online in similar western spaces and more around foreigners than people in my own country, yet I still didn't fall for troonism. It's also ironic because they'll say they hate america and capitalism but simultaneously adopt tons of liberal western shit like troonism (which they got from americans due to being terminally online) and buy shit constantly aka feed into capitalism and consoomer culture to validate their "gender identity", as well as buy tons of other shit they don't need with mommy's money and supporting "sex work" when that's just supporting capitalism and women being commodities for men. Again, all this while saying they hate capitalism and america, and they don't even realize how contradictory this is. Any time you point this out they'll act like they have no choice but to do this or some other bullshit like that when you DO have a choice to not be a massive consoomer ordering shit from shein every week for example if you supposedly hate capitalism so much kek.

No. 2309853

mini vent because the thread on the other board doesn't really exist anymore. i rarely ever check the TIM threads on /snow/ because i don't like to see those nasty, ugly, freakish hulking troons and i enjoy hiding those threads to preserve my eyes and mental health. plus, whenever i check and see something in there it's usually horrific. if i check, i'm bored or hoping to laugh at their ugly mugs and complete failure at setting out to do what they can never. just saw something in there that encouraged me to keep it fucking closed indefinitely, men are absolutely disgusting and can't hide their gross fetish for trying to skinwalk women and they could never be one. nasty ass freaks. people need to do something about it but men will absolutely never care about women's rights and do everything they can to prevent women from having them

No. 2309966

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This YouTuber here just attaches being trans to different shows including children shows. The KOTH episode is my favorite as it's about Peggy finally feeling feminine given the features she was born with through her new drag queen friend. But here comes the troon community making the episode about them. There's no trans person in this episode.

Skimming through their channel, all I can say is, if all of these shows have transphobia, don't watch them. And you should give the creators the same amount of terror like you would to small time artists for drawing a character in a way you wouldn't like. Most of these speculations from his channel are extremely cherry picked.

>This show has transphobia, this show failed to represent us correctly.. BUT ALWAYS SUNNY DID IT RIGHT YOU GUYS! I CAN NEVER TURN MY BACK ON SUCH A GOOD SHOW!!

No. 2310096

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nothing is sacred

No. 2310106

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>>2309966
KEK this loser is the reason for this meme

No. 2310121

>>2305242
>>2305234
i hate this timeline

No. 2310313

>>2310096
pathetic

No. 2310469

>>2309775
Gender in grammar isn't the same as gender meaning "magical sense of self that dictates what your true spirit is disregarding your physical reality" so I find it stupid the same word is used there too. It was just never meant to be like that.

No. 2311024

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I also sleep on my back. I guess I'm a man now. Report me and put me out to the pasture, nonas…

No. 2311033

>>2311024
beyond parody

No. 2311090

>>2311024
Real men should sleep on their stomachs to hide their boners and expose their asses to demons. And I guess I'm not a real woman from the last one as well because I use disinfectant and dishwashing soap for everything then.

No. 2311110

>>2311090
> Real men should sleep on their stomachs to hide their boners and expose their asses to demons.
hot.

No. 2311187

>>2311110
KEKK

No. 2311302

>>2311024
I’m also a man too according to this. They somehow always end up being so sexist in their retarded comparisons
>farting makes me feel like a man
>burping and scratching my ass makes me feel manly!
This is how they sound like kek

No. 2311537

>>2310096
The simpering teehee uwu what if momma said noooo nature of this post is how you know it's part of the fetish. How the fuck does someone read this and not see that this is what he gets off on?
>>2309774
>pronouns are silently disappearing from bios
Yes, I noticed that too. Most of my personal lolcows are gendies, the older ones have quietly sidled back to their real pronouns some time ago and now the younger ones are following suit. There's less TRA shit being posted or talked about, even if it's big news like puberty blockers being banned.
I saw a post about shinigami eyes being actively harmful because it discriminates against intersex and transmasc folqxz and how it doesn't even work because it goes apeshit at random words like 'butterfly' because it has terf in the middle. Women are slowly fighting back in the most retarded and roundabout way possible. Hooray for progress. IMO it's because a lot of them have either peaked or gotten fed up with TIM histrionics so they're looking for a reason to uninstall it and maybe unfollow a few particularly insufferable moids.

No. 2311613

>>2311537
>'butterfly' because it has terf in the middle.
oh i love that, cute new terfy animal

No. 2311623

>>2309841
Because almost everyone is a fucking hypocrite. Most people who say they hate capitalism are pampered, upper-middle-class, white zoomers who probably get things handed to them on a silver platter and hate poor people in real life, at least ones in the West. People need to realize that most shit on the internet is a LARP and that a lot of self-proclaimed, online “socialists” or “communists” are not actually true socialists nor communists. They all talk the talk but don’t actually walk the walk.

No. 2311638

>>2308582
>>2308624 same nonas… a friend of mine has started T and now is a bearded woman with boobs, makeup, skirt, and all… you have to be reeeeally ill to be happy about looking like a sideshow. don't get me wrong, i am a very hairy woman and i love hairy woman but she's gone too far w it and on purpose. RIP our mutuals

No. 2311651

I have a noncommittal she/they mutual who considered T after someone told her it'd cure her depression but decided T wasn't for her and she liked her body. She got a bunch of replies to that tweet saying she was cheating herself out of happiness and to just try it. I hope she doesn't listen, or she tries it once and feels like shit and doesn't touch it again.

No. 2311672

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In this post, idiot waxes philosophical about people not choosing his scrotal self as he tiptoes around the obvious.

No. 2311821

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It's funny how the TIFs are pressed about still supporting feminism despite trooning out. I've seen this quite a bit online but it's the first time I've seen it in Youtube comments. I hope it continues to spread- TIFs are the biggest handmaidens and being hated and shunned by the women in their family as well as being ridiculed by the men might just make them come to terms with reality. The one who whines about ebil cis women is fucking funny, like no, you don't get gendie care because your self inflicted titty yeet isn't important enough to push some woman's actual life saving double mastectomy back.
Also kek at the fujo who trooned out to be like her yaoi men, if fandom hadn't turned into a moral crusade against women who objectify fictional moids she and all the other fujo TIFs would have stuck to cringe crossplaying instead of trooning out. It's sad, but absolutely hilarious because they have no qualms with saying they want to be IRL Aragorn and IRL Lance and IRL Gojo when they're 4"2 and look like Fanny's pedo OC with a sunburn. That's the trans rep we all need kek.
I'm just happy that there's finally some pushback on their bullshit, online and IRL.
>>2311672
So chanting TWAW in front of the filtered mirror selfies didn't manifest a partner. That's so traumatic and sad. Perhaps he should ask his fellow ladies about it on the lesbian subreddits, I'm sure they can give him some girl to girl advice on how to find a partner who's totally not a chaser.

No. 2311836

>>2311821
Youtube comments are always shit

No. 2311841

>>2311821
You can always tell the difference between men and tifs because men want to be included in feminism and make it all about themselves, like a dental patient going to chemo and getting assmad that there aren't any dentists there. Meanwhile tifs are like cancer patients who keep ignoring their symptoms and eventually die from it.

No. 2311870

>>2309966
Of course, a Lily with frizzy hair. It's a global phenomenon.

No. 2311891

>>2298651
late reply but I literally guffawed. I wonder if that name got less desirable after people learned American McGee's horror story of his mom literally abandoning as a teen to run off with a mtf. Or maybe his cash-grab dysphoria bunny won them back.

No. 2311949

The other day I 'misgendered' a they/them coworker. She wasn't in the room at the time but someone asked me, "Why is this item in this place?" and I replied, "W put it there, she is coming back to get it."
Time seemed to freeze and several people just stared at me like I had just dropped the n word or something. I just let the silence go on and walked away slowly. But damn it was tense. I know someone told her, too, because she has been avoiding me since "the misgendering." Bet she thinks I'm a conservative fascist now or something. Fuck.

No. 2311963

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>>2311821
I have lose the count on how many tifs trooned for Will Graham.

>>2311949
What is she going to do about it? Complain to HR? Call for a "Transphobia sucks meeting?". Jeeze, she sounds insufrible even if you make a honest mistake.

Picrel: Can you guess which is the NB/TIM/TIF in the team?

No. 2312004

>>2311672
>Most of them would work through their cis partner getting SRS if one day their partner woke up with a penis
WHAT?

No. 2312006

>>2311949
i'm annoyed on your behalf, that's ridiculous

No. 2312046

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i keep forgetting most people haven't seen over 999999 troon online profiles and simply can't notice the patterns i do. they'll see someone who makes breakcore music with loli album covers and has she/her pronouns in bio as a true and honest woman and i'll sound like a schizo for pointing out the obvious. honey that's a MALE.

No. 2312066

>>2311821
>transmasculine people get denied healthcare because they are not women
Kek no you get denied tranny surgery because you're just a physically healthy WOMAN who wants to get rid of perfectly healthy female body parts to validate her delusions of wanting to make her husbandos come true and skinwalk fictional characters, whereas other women who aren't retarded like you need mastectomies to save them from ACTUAL life-threatening conditions like cancer
Why are TIFs so fucking dumb?
>I trooned out because I wanted to be like my favorite male characters so I became a man like them
>I trooned out because I wanted to have a sense of community and I thought that's innate to women so I became a woman
Why are they so obsessed with things they can't biologically have and delude themselves into thinking they can actually have them and gain magical properties they associate with the opposite sex. You can be inspired by people of the opposite sex and try to have the same traits as them without mutilating your body and pretending that your brain doesn't belong in it kek
Do they not know that you can be cool and strong and dress how you want without having a penis, or that you can be empathetic and not selfish and have friends without having a vagina?
>5D chess move
>becoming a man so you can show other women that men can be better so hopefully they start holding men to a higher standard
The thing is that everybody knows you're not a real man and if someone is fooled at first, you're only disappointing them when they find out you're female after all kek

No. 2312088

>>2312046
this but when i tell my art friends that the ''gay man'' they follow that draws FOTM husbandos is actually a tif

No. 2312089

>>2312066
>I trooned out because I wanted to be like my favorite male characters so I became a man like them
Don't they have male relatives like a father or brothers? Because they're not going to become in a bishie character if their moid relative are ugly af.

No. 2312107

>>2311821
>my experience for my whole life was that men were eternally alone and had no emotional outlets except through their romantic partner.
i hate men so fucking much holy shit. this is probably why so many men have zero qualms about abusing their romantic partners, cheating, or openly monkey branching from one woman to the next with zero guilt. men can't see women as human beings with a complex inner world, they see us as they mythical beings who can't feel pain, only sexual pleasure. they're also angry that they feel 'had' in life because of their faggoty ass rule about men not allowed to show emotions, and so they take it out on all of us instead of dismantling the patriarchal structure that they pretend to be oppressed under instead of, you know, actively benefit from at the expense of girls and women worldwide.

No. 2312108

>>2312089
They think T will make them skinny asian gay boys but actually it makes them fat and bald with a neckbeard.

No. 2312166

>>2312004
They're so obsessed with their magical sex change hentai they even use it in their retarded analogies in normal conversation kek
Also, if that could actually happen I'd just end up dumping the person because I don't want to sleep with someone whose genitals I'm not attracted to OR someone who has mutilated their healthy genitals. But trannies keep trying to gaslight people into thinking that genitals are not a factor at all in sexual attraction.
>>2312046
It's the same as recognizing whether something was made by/for male coomers or not kek all male trannies are coomers so it checks out
>>2311963
Nta but today I heard a radio ad on a local station about government measures to respect tranny identities (changing their sex in their passport, etc), I'm not even first world, I'm worried that it'll become a punishable offence to misgender them, especially in contexts like the workplace

No. 2312277

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>>2312108
>Tons of tv shows/stories/reports about danger of T in sports, real life, etc.
>"It won't happen to me because it will make me a handsome man".

No. 2312488

>>2311949
Yeesh anon that sucks. TIP’s very existence in the workplace makes it a hostile work environment where you have to twist your brain into a pretzel just to do your job. Is this the first time she’s been ‘misgendered’? In my experience most people (including gendies) struggle with single person they/them pronouns so mistakes are common and more forgivable, but it sounds like your coworkers are pretty captured if they reacted like that. And what kind of an asshole would tattle on you? Even by gendie logic that’s a shitty thing to do because it upsets the theythem for no fucking reason.

>>2312088
Same.
>omg my fandoms are full of sensitive, soft-spoken gay men who draw wholesome ship art of our cinnamon roll husbandos and write comfy coffee shop AU fanfic UwU
those are women love

>>2312277
I mean you need a terminal case of Not Like Other X syndrome and an unhealthy dose of magical thinking to seriously identify as trans in the first place so are you really surprised?

No. 2312651

>>2311949
I think you doing that and acting like nothing was a power move kek it's good for people see you didn't die from misgendering her

No. 2312671

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>>2312089
>>2312108
even if you have attractive men in your family you are still going to be ugly if you transition, buck angel was a very hot androgynous butch woman but testosterone turned her into an almost gremlin like thing, when she stands next to real mmoids, she looks so tiny next to them as well

No. 2312677

>>2312671
Damn she was beautiful before.
Also isn’t this the TIF who had a severe complication from the continuous usage of T? Was it vaginal atrophy?

No. 2312682

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>>2312671
She said that in many photoshoots they were telling her to act more feminine, but she always envied the male models.
I have a theory, might be dumb though nonnas, but do you think that some GNC women, especially the ones who don’t abide to femininity at all , who are told that they must abide to femininity and who are pretty much attracted to men, feel the need to become TIFs because at least a gay relationship is seen as more serious than a “woman who looks like a man” with a man.
As much as I hate to say it but the way our society is structured greatly influenced the rise of gender ideology.

No. 2312687

>>2312682
It has been said a million times that a portion of troons, mostly the older ones from the 90s/80s/00s are GNC women/men with conservative or homophobic parents. Women cant be gnc without either being sexualized(tomboys) or being bullied for not fitting in. Women are literally forced to shave as soon as they hit puberty to remain prepubescent looking forever, thats bound to fuck up a lot of women.

No. 2312702

>>2311623
Yes it's definitely a LARP just like their gender one, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
>>2311672
The male entitlement in this post is crazy kek. Your partner being infertile can actually be a deal breaker for a lot of people, like what is he even talking about? Not many people would be fine with their partner having SRS or suddenly waking up with different genitals either, they would most likely just break up and feel bad about it. Most aren't attracted to extremes and people who get botched surgeries and implants outside of porn sick men who see it as a novelty or something to gawk at. All of those traits are dealbreakers even in normal people kek. Being trans is even worse though because the person actively lives in a delusion that they expect you to validate every single day, at least with the other ones you can chalk it up to it either being unintentional/unavoidable (like being infertile) or being able to classify it as a mental illness without being called a bigot (women who get crazy implants). You could also break up with someone who "randomly woke up with a penis" without it being transphobic too, and it wouldn't have been their fault either so it falls under the unintentional thing as well. What's uniquely messed up about trans ideology is how you're basically choosing to do this to yourself and no one can say anything negative about it, choose not to fuck you or leave without you throwing a tantrum and writing all this retarded shit to justify being an undesireable faggot. I don't want kids and I still don't want to date a troon because I would have to validate their delusions and engage with their LARP instead of being with a mentally healthy person or at least someone who I can try to get help for without being told it's healthy to be mentally ill. I know what trans people are and they're still repulsive, even the most passing ones are still delusional and should just live as gnc people. The "vibes" that are off are that you are all a bunch of insane people who need others to play pretend and who thrive off of recreating sexist stereotypes and being homophobic kek.

No. 2312708

>>2312702
The comparison between an infertile woman and a TIM always felt disingenuous to me, even when I was a TRA. A woman who is infertile is still a woman, a child free person would be okay with them or even someone who wants to adopt, but a TIM is a man to anyone and unless you’re a flavor of bisexuality or gay if you’re a man then you’ll never be remotely interested because you’ll always think “oh this person was born a man…this person is a man”, there are certain characteristics that we unconsciously pick up, from the gait, to the feel of their body that at a certain point you can’t really miss. If you choose for some reason to be with a TIM you have to be able to stomach this.

TIM are registered as a man who wants to be woman to the average citizen and the courtesy of pandering to them is out of societal pressure and just basic human desire to get it over with. I was giving lip service as a TRA but I never believed the words I was saying to a T kek.

No. 2312709

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Re: the TIM movie

None of these movies tell to kids to respect the qt+ pronouns or htr/testosterone is a magical thing that helps you to fuck your body and makes you end up in the 21%, for heaven's sake! Besides Frolo is a villain and what he did to Esmeralda in the scene it was what a villain would do!

No. 2312711

>>2311672
Yes, yes everyone thinks you’re not women enough when it comes to shag you and being in a relationship. It’s easy to shout TWAW when you don’t have to bring one back home kek.

No. 2312716

>>2312709
also pretty much every person will in some way be affected by death regardless of age, this is shit logic.

No. 2312721

>>2312708
Yeah, they're two completely different things, it's just a retarded comparison. Being infertile as a woman doesn't magically turn you into a male, they say "TERFs" are the ones reducing women to their reproductive functions when they're the ones constantly trying to use that as a failed gotcha and implying any woman who can't have kids= same as a troon aka a male when that's not true at all. They just come off as entitled, rapey and homophobic when they complain about other people not being attracted to them too as if it's some form of hate speech kek, incel mentality really. They also do already have people who will fuck them: other troons and chasers. So they should just shut the fuck up and stop trying to force themselves onto everyone else when we don't want them.
>>2312709
The difference is putting troon shit into movies is just going to age horribly kek, it'd be like exposing your kids to lobotomies and saying they're a good thing in their cartoons. The issue isn't really showing kids serious topics, it's trying to indocrinate them into self harming and delusions from a young age.

No. 2312782

>>2312708
>The comparison between an infertile woman and a TIM always felt disingenuous to me, even when I was a TRA.
Especially because girls and elderly women are infertile by default and at no point has anyone questioned if they're still female

No. 2312882

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>>2312721
"See Jimmy? There are people who believe they're in the wrong sex and deserve hormones and surgeries to become in their real sex, otherwise they might kill themselves. You can even join them someday… Or today, I have seen you playing with dolls. Are you sure that you are a boy? Because boys don't play with girl's toys, that's gay".

No sane parent ever.

No. 2312885

>>2312782
Is like if you're infertile or have menopause, you have your woman card revoked. But they claim that terfs are the ones doing that.

No. 2312997

mass peak fucking when i am so tired of seeing troons gab on about gender. it's so ridiculous how generic they all are, it's BEYOND parody, i swear to god everything i see the current crop of troons infesting my latest hobby space talk about is practically word for word what gets picked apart here and in other rf spaces
>ermm i'm such a she/her femme baddie with my tits hanging out but i still get he/himed wtf!!!! (said troon being a clocky uggo with frizzy hair and a pig nose?!
>i'm very obviously a typical woman with poorly dyed hair but i swear everyone thinks i'm a gay boy futch
>haha yeah i post on r/malelivingspaces i'm totally just one of the boys see the way i cheer on guys saying any hole's a goal or calling my female friends bitches hahahahaha i'm just a normal dude please clap
how do i kill them all

No. 2313017

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nonnies i genuinely don't know how much longer i can keep seeing shit like this on my feed. aside from the obvious (turning taking life-altering drugs into a cutesy thing) "don't die wondering" was literally a slogan from the gay/lesbian rights movement. is there ANYTHING these people won't co-opt?

No. 2313024

>>2312997
>>2313017
I feel the exact same way. Nerdy hobbies have been hit with a fucking gendie nuke.

No. 2313026

>>2313017
Saw this on the front page and said wtf out loud.

No. 2313173

>>2313017
I hate these posts more than I can express. So many autistic women who openly have no dysphoria or interest in the effects of T consider it now because they think it's going to give them a spiritual epiphany and eliminate their disability. Genuine cult shit.

No. 2313190

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Probably because the fetish/porn sick ones were the louder ones? And you didn't stop them, but also encourage them to take women places? And don't give me that "third gender" crap, it was a way to cover homophobia back then and you know it.

No. 2313211

I can't help but wonder how female youtubers who're outwardly pro tran truly feel whenever they start to get a swarm of
> omg girl you're my transition goal..
Comments. Extra creep points when it's under a 2/3 hour long vid on a serious topic but all the troons can talk about is wanting to wear your skin tho. Flattering?

No. 2313268

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>>2311963
I hate that they're being purposely obtuse with this because how do you think telling children that "some boys were actually born girls and some girls were actually born boys, and that's totes valid!" is not all confusing considering children are already self aware about the differences between boys and girls, and I'm not even talking about in stereotypes or in a social kind of way either. gender which is a set in stone blantly obvious, can't be changed thing, and were having shows aimed at them telling them the opposite that they can change it if they feel "off" or don't fit in with their assumed gender roles. that's something more harmful than helpful and it astonishes me how TRAs don't seem to get that.

picrel somewhat related. retarded for the sake of being retarded. for anyone confused, they're saying Gazelle is trans because only male gazelles have longer and thicker horns than the female ones. this is the back at the barnyard "Otis is a trans cow" all over again. ironically though these are like the rare times they admit there's gender differences between males and females kek

No. 2313395

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>>2313268
I remember a comic about how the artist never knew that her student was being SA until very late, and it would have been so sad if wasn't because she draw a scene of her telling to her students (I guess 6-7 years old?) that "some girls have penises and some boys have vaginas, so that's why I'm calling you 'kids' (in a 'neutral way' in my language)".
I understand telling to kids about SA and how adults shouldn't touch them without consent and even then, is wrong, but why is important the crap about "boys with vaginas and girls with penises"? So they can understand why a 'girl' is dressing in the same room and his "funny willy" is there?.

No. 2313403

>>2313268
If Gazelle was trans, she wouldn't have been voiced by a woman (Shakira) in first place. And even then, Kim Petras sounds and sings like shit.

No. 2313428

>>2311949
I have a coworker who keeps (accidentally, I assume) misgendering a he/him TIF coworker as they/them. I kind of want to be like “Uhm ackshually SHE identifies as a man!” for the lulz but also I don’t want to start drama at my workplace, I just want to show up, get paid, and go home. Already I’m one of only maybe 10% of people in our woke 200+ person workplace who doesn’t put pronouns in my email signature (and one of only maybe 5 non-pronoun-havers who is a white woman, not a man or a WOC, who I feel like have more leeway to not adhere to the pronoun shit) so people probably already suspect something’s up with me but idgaf.

No. 2313566

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>A moid is more important than-

No.

No. 2313612

>>2313428
>accidentally misgendering a he/him TIF as they/them
it might be deliberate, i know thats what i do if im confronted with pronoun bullshit but don't want to start a whole debacle. ive also seen more sane but still unpeaked people do it when they dont buy a particular troons LARP (i.e: chris-chan) but want to avoid backlash from the "misgendering is violence no matter what" crowd. overall its a good sign.

No. 2313626

>>2313428
I’m legitimately just retarded and kept doing this at my last job on accident. I don’t wanna start anything or make anyone upset. I actually wanted to be the TIF’s friend kek. Was wondering why I never got a text back when I asked to hang sometime and kept getting the cold shoulder. I would correct myself after making the mistake and say sorry but did it a lot. I hate that so many of these larpers pretend to be autistic cause if they actually were they’d be more understanding of actual autistic people like me slipping up.

No. 2313935

>>2313626
This is where transgender ideology and autism fakers play into each other. Actual autistic people are very likely to have difficulty with non reality-based pronouns (and genderism in general if they haven’t been sucked into it themselves) but they are shouted over by neurotypical autism fakers claiming that “Well I identify as autistic and I have no problem remembering all my friends’ neopronouns!”.
Even the autistic TIFs I know trip over pronouns constantly, including their own. They’re always self-flagellating over it. I wish I could shake them out of it somehow.

No. 2313996

>>2313626
I'm also an autist and I keep accidentally calling famous/public troons by their real sex pronouns. I can't help that once I know a man is man (or woman is a woman) my brain defaults to seeing them as one even if they pass half decently. I've been called out for it online a couple of times but I just waited a couple of days and then silently deleted their comments. So far I've been lucky enough that 99% of people haven't cared but I'm not sure what excuse to use to get me off the hook if some unhinged TRA comes at me

No. 2314016

>>2312882
Kek, cursed.
>>2313190
The thing is I knew about trannies and crossdressers when I was a kid, but they weren't being actively celebrated like this nor was the message in the media that they're totally real women/men. They were usually just used as the butt of a joke, or when represented seriously it was still acknowledged that they are crossdressers not actually the opposite gender/sex/whatever. What's innapropriate to show kids is all the fetish shit and also this idea that if you become a troon everyone has to see you as a real woman/male and this delusional idea that that is even attainable at all.

No. 2314024

>>2313935
The rigid thinking in autism is actually a significant contributing factor to why autists have a high degree of transgenderism. That and a large portion of autists are actually mentally stunted like CWC.
That said, I’ve also noticed the phenomenon where troons don’t get each other’s pronouns correctly or even their own. The biggest thing I’ve noticed there though is MTFs will be completely shocked and outraged and want people who get their pronoun wrong once to be social pariahs, but will consistently forget to use they/them for specialer genderspecials and will still call FTMs she and everyone is supposed to let it slide. It’s interesting it’s like they don’t actually buy into anyone’s garbage except their own.

No. 2314055

There needs to be a study on why so many TIFs are overweight or obese. Like surely a normie's gotta have noticed a connection between them hating being fatties and trooning out.

No. 2314106

>>2314055
Yeah, I think it's a mix of two things. One is that testosterone makes them hungrier so they eat more and gain weight. They're under the illusion that testosterone will give them more muscles, which in turn makes them burn more fat so eating more is "fine". And thus they overeat and rapidly gain weight.

The second thing is quite obvious in a lot of them like you said, they didn't fit into female beauty standards of being thin and pretty so they went the "rebel route" and go "well then I'm not even a woman so I can't be an ugly woman, ha!" as a cope for being fat and/or "ugly"

No. 2314181

>>2313626
>I actually wanted to be the TIF’s friend kek.
She got angry at knowing you "misgerdering" by proxy, I feel like being friends with her is like walking over eggshells made with legos.

No. 2314209

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even troons seem to realize that the larp is ending soon

No. 2314244

>>2314209
And even here, they couldn't include TIFs. It's always me me me.

No. 2314464

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Of course David would do that. Anybody not saying shit or saying the opposite of what they want to hear is a "terf" or "traitor".

No. 2314605

>>2312682
the dominatrix that convinced her to troon out was jealous of her high fashion butch look and conspired to take it away from her.

No. 2314941

>>2314464
I for one am loving how he's destroying his own reputation, the day his child detroons will be glorious

No. 2315065

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Do these girls really think them indentifying as trans change reality?

No. 2315162

>>2315065
The naïveté of TiFs is so annoying. I don’t know how these girls are so sheltered they don’t understand a man will call himself gay as much as he has to get you to sleep with him. That will not deter a scrote, you are in fact feeding him the exact strategy to manage to take advantage of you.

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I’m sure this is already common knowledge, but even AI is made to not hurt the wittle feefees of the trannies, but of course that is to be expected. Imagine us actually getting humanoid robots in the future like fucking Detroit: Become Human where they’re assuring moids in dresses that yes they are women and that real women shouldn’t complain about them invading their spaces because the real women are being “transphobic”, KEK. “No misogyny”, even though the AI will give a misogynistic answer if you ask it about trannies, KEK.

No. 2315345

I honestly wonder what makes trans people so high up on the social justice hierarchy and how the fuck they even got there in such a short amount of time. Is it because our toleration had gone too far? Is it because our empathy was taken advantage of? I don’t even think gay people got this much pampering, special rights and privileges like the trannies do now. Being transphobic is literally the worst thing you could be in modern day society, worse than being misogynistic, racist and homophobic. It’s all so fucking weird and insane to me.

No. 2315387

>>2315345
The movement is led by psychotic men and is based on fetishism. Every scrote, even the higher up politicians, understand what being a sick fetishist is and a lenient on it while women are mass guilt tripped into catering to men's feelings, as always. There is also fucktons of industries that are profiting out of this movement as it is based on outward appearances.

No. 2315453

>>2315065
>>2315162
They sadly will have to learn it the hard way as they refuse to listen to evil terfs warning them. It will be so embarrassing for them to look back on having posted this online for all to see it
>That will not deter a scrote, you are in fact feeding him the exact strategy to manage to take advantage of you.
They're making nice guys stay away from them by being delusional and insisting they're gay, while the filthiest kind of men who want to take advantage of them by lying are handed strategies on a silver plate. They're going to happily be the bottom for those "gay" males and after a dozen of times figure out maybe there was supposed to be more to sex than a man using you for anal

No. 2315459

>>2315345
>I honestly wonder what makes trans people so high up on the social justice hierarchy and how the fuck they even got there in such a short amount of time.
Who's in power? Generally conservative, sexist and homophobic old men.
Troonism offers you a highly sexist conservative view of men and women while also being homophobic. Troonism is promising to turn icky gay people into straight citizens, they're advocating that real women are made by a dress and makeup, and not only that but you get unwanted social groups (minorities, gays, mentally ill people) to BEG you to sterilize them so they can't pass on their own genes. Women beg you to take your lady boner into their private spaces and changing rooms, and you don't even have to transition or shave your beard. It's fucking brilliant for them! Troonism has largely been a men's right activist group since the beginning, they've always been vocal their main enemy has always been terfs, aka feminists. Yet, they get to blame feminists as if they caused it all when it all goes bad.

No. 2315470

>>2315459
Yeah, that actually makes so much sense. No wonder troons hate terfs or just women who don’t abide to them more than anybody else. I never see them hate a man for being “transphobic” as much as they show hatred for “transphobic” women. I also remember a fellow nonna saying before that trannies only “hate” conservatives/right-wingers in name only. I have come to fully realize that gender ideology is actually conservative, but for some reason it’s shown and acted like a “progressive”, “leftist” thing, most likely to trick and deceive people. Just like a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

I also curiously wonder if gender ideology is actually conservative, then why would conservatives/right-wingers hate it?

No. 2315504

>>2315345
this video i listened to a while back both exposes the issue and touches on the whys a little in laymans terms, but tl;dw lobbying, troon billionaires and a top-down approach (note: moid in vidrel is a gc leftist and not some tradtard). if you want something more in-depth, i remember seeing a more comprehensive article on the matter floating around. i think it was this one by jennifer bilek but im not sure http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/Transgender-Astroturfing.pdf

No. 2315512

>>2315504
I can't use this link nonnie, it's a pdf and it won't download

No. 2315528

>>2315512
I can download it fine, I reuploaded it to pixeldrain, does this work? The download button should be on the top right, beside the printer icon
https://pixeldrain.com/u/q8rzJHTD

No. 2315538

>>2315528
That worked, thank you anon. I think it's just an issue with my phone.

No. 2315601

>>2315470
>I also curiously wonder if gender ideology is actually conservative, then why would conservatives/right-wingers hate it?
It's basically a different brand of conservative views, they've turned the progressive people so progressive it goes all the way back to being conservative. The right says "women should wear makeup and dresses", while troonism says "wearing makeup and a dress makes you a woman". So they're VERY close in views, they just don't agree on the wording. Normal right leaning people who are not on the extreme ends had a natural protection against the leftist propaganda from the start which is why some of them are able to be against it. While normal leftist people who don't agree weren't allowed to speak against it, or they'd be kicked out of the community - and often they did end up kicked out and called rightist by the left. The top rich right people and extremists can often see that if they just silently support troonism things actually go their way in the end.

No. 2315718

>>2315601
>they've turned the progressive people so progressive it goes all the way back to being conservative
horseshoe theory strikes again

No. 2315777

>>2314055
Considering how many are also anorexics there is a pretty large correlation with autism/self harm/eating disorders and trooning out

No. 2317103

>>2315459
this makes a lot of sense. i think, at the same time though, there's a layer of manipulation coming from the rich old scrotes that most people don't see until it's too late. and we're now at that point with trump's presidential winning, which means that america will no longer be giving out hormones or surgeries to trans people, either completely or make it as difficult to get them as possible. the old scrotes only gave the green light to troonism until women started losing their places in scholarships, leadership roles, private areas like bathrooms and locker rooms, getting cancelled or fired if they are even the lightest bit of gender critical, and of course silencing women from speaking too much about the loss of roe v wade because bringing up biological female bodies is too transphobic.. now that most of the competition from real women have been curtailed thanks to the trannies, the same old rich homophobic scrotes can throw them under the bus and be the ultimate status quo again.

No. 2317107

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(1/2) Comparing incels to radfems, truly a Tumblr moment

No. 2317108

>>2317107
kek that whole spiel about thinking everyone of being evil and wrong while staying insulated in tightly knitted online communities and behaving in cult-like behaviors is quite literally the trans rights movement but okay

No. 2317109

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>>2317107
(2/2)

No. 2317114

>>2317107
>>2317109
I've seen people make this corny ass comparison before and it's always just pathetic. Radfems aren't out there killing people just because they don't fuck kek, and radical feminism is completely different from being an incel, it's literally just about women's rights and oppression from males which is an objective thing that exists, while incels just made up that moids are opressed because some of them don't get pussy or whatever and le women inferior because they said so and to justify their violence, sexual assault and general terrible treatment of women. Yet retards will still act like they're in any way comparable just because muh misandry is just as bad as misogyny type of retarded mentality. Even the most blackpilled doomer radfem isn't as dangerous as the average incel (or hell, even the average man).

No. 2317123

>>2315345
There is A LOT of money behind them. There are a surprising amount of AGP billionaires/millionaires pouring funds into trans orgs, far more than L, G, or B organizations combined. Jennifer Pritzker is the biggest name among them. Here’s a quote from an article about it that I’ll link below.
>The rise of transgenderism is not simply a spontaneous social tsunami that happened organically. A handful of very wealthy activist contributors has funded and nurtured the movement and tried to make it mainstream. I have tracked the flow of the money through public records, charity and foundation filings, and reports from ground-breaking reporting from other journalists, such as Jennifer Bilek. This is only a snapshot of a much larger story.
>Many of the richest contributors were significant donors to LGB organizations long before T was added. Unless a grant is earmarked for trans issues, it is sometimes difficult to determine how much of a gift to an organization such as The Human Rights Campaign, might be put to transgender matters.
>Hundreds of new transgender specific charities and advocacy organizations have opened in the last decade. In 2013, less than $2 million went to groups such as the Trans Justice Funding Project or the Palm Center for Transgender Military Service. Annual contributions to transgender associations surpassed a hundred million dollars by 2020, about eight times faster than the increase for overall LGBT funding.
>The single biggest contributor to the movement is Jennifer Pritzker (formerly James, born male at birth), a cousin of Illinois governor, J. B. Pritzker, and a member of a $37 billon family fortune built from nursing homes and Hyatt hotels. Other key financiers include the Soros family; Warren and Peter Buffett; United Therapeutics CEO, Martine Rothblatt (born male but identifies as a transhuman/transgender woman); software programmer, Tim Gill, the first openly gay man listed on the Forbes 400; Canadian venture capitalist, Mark Bonham; the Tides Foundation creator, Drummond Pike; Jon Stryker, the billionaire heir to the Stryker medical technology company fortune; and the estate of Ric Weiland, who was the second employee at Microsoft.
>Many of these billionaires fund the transgender lobby through their own charitable organizations. They also pass significant money through Pike’s Tides Foundation and other anonymous funding groups. Large corporations, other charities, and individual philanthropists, send money to the Tides Foundation, specify where the funds go, and their gift is then delivered anonymously. The Tides Foundation acts as a combination of a legal firewall and tax avoidance for foundations and the wealthy. A snapshot of the charitable contributions to LGBT foundations in 2020 reveals the largest donor was “anonymous;” $31 million in 112 grants that were disbursed through groups like Tides (the second biggest contributor, at $30 million, was the pharmaceutical firm, Gilead, a pioneer in HIV/AIDs medications).
>These financiers do not simply write checks. Their money almost always comes with conditions. Jennifer Pritzker, for example, gave millions to the University of Minnesota for the creation of a Program of Human Sexuality. The Pritzker Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Health at Lurie’s Children Hospital, which includes research for gender non-conforming children, got over $20 million in Pritzker gifts. The University of Chicago’s Pritzker School of Medicine was one of the first in the nation to offer a complete series of gender affirming courses. At Canada’s University of Victoria, Pritzker endowed the first ever chair in transgender studies. The University of Toronto got $20 million to create a center for Sexual Diversity Studies. Pritzker wrote a $25 million check to the University of California at San Francisco, and it opened a children’s psychiatric unit that specialized in LGBT care. Besides underwriting major institutional endeavors that further the transgender ideology, Pritzker gives millions in research grants to influential physicians, from Northwestern University’s chief of pediatrics, Cleveland Clinic’s Pritzker Foundation Chair for Functional Medicine, and Baylor University’s Endocrinology chief. When Pritzker gave $25 million to a military academy in Vermont, a faculty member told me it felt as if the directive was to develop a program to “make military transgerderism a reality.”
https://www.justthefacts.media/p/the-transgender-money-pipeline

So not only is there a lot of money behind them, there’s a lot of money to be made from them. Once they start hormones, and especially after surgeries, they become lifelong patients.

No. 2317143

>>2317109
aw you love when people try to use a bunch of big words to sound smart but they actually have not a single thing to point out, feels like i'm reading insecure disorganized gibberish
>>2317107
projection at it's ripest
>where people don't try to gaslight me into questioning these truths
what the fuck are they even saying??

No. 2317180

>>2317109
So it's incel blackpill behavior when women look at history and see that they've been oppressed for millennia and feel down about that, but it's perfectly normal for troons to whinge about genocide when they've existed for less than a hundred years and gotten everything they've asked for in record time.

No. 2318490

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Sorry for venting but a a few years ago I had a male autist troon (non-binary) friend who sexually assaulted me and he turned into a stalker for like 2 years after I finally cut all ties with him. I've been free for like a year (sure hope it stays that way). He was fully aggressively a TRA extremist, he called himself a righteous feminist and called me un-feminist for being anti a group of "women" aka male troons. Lately he's come up in my mind a lot so I can't seem to let it go. I fully think he was being honest and that he as an isolated autist enby troon accepted other troons as a form of women because he literally never had to meet them in person and thus it was easy to pretend that they truly were women. It bothers me not knowing if he'll ever realize what he did to me and other women, that he threw real women under the bus so his fellow men could get into female spaces and pretend to be us. I just so badly want him to one day realize what he did and said was wrong, even if he never admits it out loud. The thought that he's gonna grow old and still insist that rapist men are women just because they said so and that me and every other gc person are still wrong just makes me want to hurl, I can't express enough how much it's truly sickening to me. I don't know why it's suddenly back in my mind and I don't know how to get rid of these thoughts and feelings. If anyone has any tips or ideas please share, I need it all

No. 2318499

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>>2318490
nonna, give me his adress and name, i'm getting my baseball bat ready.

No. 2318546

>>2317123
So basically at the end of the day it’s all about money and capitalism benefits greatly from trannyism (and vice versa). How ironic considering so many so-called socialists and communists support trannyism that it’s a meme now. Kek.

No. 2319068

god i'm so sick of troons ruining every women only gaming discord servers and the handmaidens that allow them in. Why do I have to listen to some man cry about not sounding "girly enough" in vc? Don't even get me started on TIFs crying for a he/him role to be added.

No. 2319223

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Crazy that they make posts like this but can't understand why we find posts about wanting to rape and kill TERFs alarming.

No. 2319317

>>2319223
>baeddel
Wtf is this word? Never heard it in my life, did some Tumblr 16yo come up with it

No. 2319318

>>2319223
Why would a hulking troon be afraid of thembys microdosing T?

No. 2319329

>>2319223
>Tifs should be able to kill trannies because they won't stop being fucking misogynistic towards us
Based.

No. 2319330

>>2319317
Extremely mentally ill and deranged subcommunity(?) of TIMs, which is saying a lot considering how psychotic they already are. From my understanding they think masculinity/maleness is basically the root of all evil, so all males should be feminized and turned into trannies like them. They shit on TIFs since they're transitioning into men. Whenever I've come across them it more or less seemed like forcefem fetish shit masked as "radical feminism".

No. 2319336

>>2318490
If he's autistic enough to fall for this shit he's autistic enough to be seriously affected by the shit TIMs say to each other. There are screencaps in the old TIM and gender critical threads of troon Redditors calling themselves trannies, malding openly about how their rotpockets are completely different to real vaginas, getting pissed off that they can be welcomed by all the handmaidens on the planet into any woman's space but they still feel miserable because it's obvious that they're men and these women are only doing it for brownie points. They know they're men and don't belong in women's spaces.
If fellow moids are scary and he only hangs out around women, he'll still be bombarded by reality. It can be a passing comment about men in dresses, a scribbled message on a bathroom mirror, anything, if he can pick up on it you bet your ass he'll freak out about it. Ironically hanging out around handmaidens can make this worse. They can pick up on microaggressions (women pushing their kids away from him, people doing double takes or looking at him funny, the sort of shit he might not notice) and tell him about it so he knows just how oppressed he is. Autists ruminate a lot, he probably thought you were the only person who thought he was a man, and now you're gone and he's still being called sir despite the stripper heels. He's got to be having a hell of a bad time.

No. 2319337

>>2319318
Tifs vs tims has been the big hot discourse on tumblr for quite a while now.
Marginally related i think it's embarrassing that so many women go along with it and willingly emblazon themselves as TME and therefore all potential perpetrators of horrible misogyny against tragic female+ troons. Ironic considering how much troons rally against "men bad" bioessentialism.

No. 2319362

I’m subscribed to a jobmail for a local university and its medical centre. It often feels like half the jobs listed for the university have diversity/intersectionality/inclusion somewhere in the title but this is the first time I came across that in the UMC jobmail: a PhD project in a new research group about Diversity and Inclusion in palliative care. I check it out and the description has a long spiel about the intersectionality of race, religious background, class, gender identity, ‘sex differences’ (which I’m 99,9% sure is being used to refer to DSDs and not sex, which is not listed of course) and poorer quality of care yada yada and then I scroll down to the list of advocacy groups they’re collaborating with and it’s ALL trans or LGBTQI+ groups. I check out the LGBTBBQ. groups and they’re all focused on trans, too.
How many transidentified people are currently dying in hospital that they felt the need to create a whole new research group focusing entirely on this issue? Is this just same old same old “trans most affected” or are they actually dying in droves already?

No. 2319364

>>2319362
It’s easier to work in a field where almost nothing exists. They’re choosing a subject that’s trendy and easier to navigate. It’s pure laziness and downright egotistical to pour so many resources into something that’s essentially fiction.

No. 2319376

>>2319364
Meanwhile at the same university, research into climate change-resistant food crops is being smothered by budget cuts. Dystopian.

I kind of hope you’re right, though, because the alternative is that scores of TIFs (you know it’s gonna be TIFs and not TIMs) are at death’s door as we speak, and that’s only the first wave.

No. 2319422

How the hell did the tifs at my school unironically feel like boys when the entire school especially the boys was violently normie/neurotypical? You're a girl with short dyed hair who likes anime and sits alone on your laptop, how do you feel you're the same as the boys kicking soccer balls on the school oval and playing testicle cum tag in the boys' bathroom and talking about their achievements in their basketball teams outside of school?
Like my question is just how do tifs come to life even in that environment where they're nothing like boys? None of the "trans boys" would even go near a real boy. I get it comes from not feeling like a girl, but even autistic and ethnic me when I was 14 who didn't feel girly at all as a result just decided I didn't feel girly and suffered but never felt like a scrote.

No. 2319440

>>2319068
Their nonsense about girly voices is part of what peaked me because I have a deeper voice for a woman yet kept seeing them talk about how they need to make their voice girly and kawaii uwu to be female. They don't even seem to realize most women don't naturally sound like an anime character.

No. 2319443

>>2319440
I remember hating my naturally low voice (accentuated by my ethnic accent so I don't sound like a high pitched cartoon fairy too) as a little girl and now seeing moids attempt to have the same issue is just tiring.

No. 2319449

Thanks to this thread for introducing me to these guys… blanchardians are a bizarre little niche.

No. 2319452

>>2319443
Yeah, it just feels insulting.

No. 2319498

>>2319422
they never actually talk to real boys so they have an idealized soft boy version in their head, and when more tifs troon out and they're just like them (because they're girls) they take that as confirmation they're "just like the other boys"

No. 2319510

>>2319317
The idea that transmisogyny is the worst oppression to ever exist and can only be experienced by males, therefore females have privilege, especially TIFs since they're female "men"

https://nothorses.tumblr.com/post/668329111105814528/just-wondering-what-is-a-baeddel-ive-never-seen

No. 2319557

I swear there always has to be a “fan theory” somewhere in a piece of media like a movie or a kids cartoon that a character is possibly transgender because trannies love to shove themselves into literally everything. One of my favorite childhood movies has been affected by this, the 2003 movie “Holes”. Apparently there is a theory that the character Mr. Sir is actually transgender only because he has a name that’s “traditionally for girls”, which is Marion.

No. 2319578

Nonnas, I need someone to talk. I have a classmate (adult education, software developement) who is 25 I am significantly older. We sit next to each other and vibe on some level with each other. I came to talk to him about his partner, I assumed was a woman, because he dated women before. But he told me it was a man. And I asked, if it works (well). And he said, yes, surprisingly, well. The whole time I was imagine him with a man, and it was kind of strange to wrap my head around, but I was happy for him. His boyfriend is 29 nearly 30. Well, last Friday, after school we went into the same direction and he met with his boyfriend at the same bus stop I would wait for the bus. His boyfriend is a GIRL. A woman with shortish hair styled up like a mohawk without it being an actual mohawk cut). I just saw her for a short moment. Now I know why this relationship works so nice for him. I am just… I swear this school class. We also had a TIM, stereotypical software dev tim with frizzy hair and the occasional kawaii school uniform dress. Was still very young and took transitioning actually serious (medically, not looks-wise). He was focused solely on himself and trains, kek, didn't give sex pest. That's what happens when young people are terminally online and getting groomed in trans spaces.
I have the impression, from my interactions with him, that my classmate with the "boyfriend" just prefers being dominated by women. Of course, he will respect her chosen pronouns then, lol.

No. 2319581

>>2319449
Why Dakota, why not Arkansans?

No. 2319583

>>2319557
Every "Andrea" in Italy is trans, got it.

No. 2319587

>>2319422
>likes anime and sits alone on your laptop
They’re probably engrossed in media and fandom 24/7 and their idea of ‘boys’ comes from whatever media they consume, not actual male humans in real life. These girls often have an idealised view of men and boys based purely on fiction and tend to identify more strongly with fictional characters than with real people.

>>2319578
I’m surprised he actually pretends she’s a man when she’s not around to hear it. Most men I know who’ve dated TIFs don’t bother playing along when their girlfriend or her friends aren’t around to witness it, like at best they’ll call a he/him ‘they’ and at worst they simply use female pronouns. Could it be he thinks you’re a TRA?
>just prefers being dominated by women
Maybe, but in my experience TIFs tend to be even more meek and submissive than normal women. Even the ones who get off on using their identity to bully others will almost exclusively pick on other women this way.

No. 2319693

>>2319587
He is a very insecure guy and just wants to be liked. So, he is doing the "right" thing, in respecting her chosen pronouns, I guess. The very short moment seeing her, gave me the impression she was a bit aggressive. But maybe she tried to seem "manly", idk. If you would see her, you wouldn't think she presented as a TIF. More like a mega edgy woman (being aggressive and edgy are not signs of a secure individual, if you think that was my thought/impression). I would consider that the common TIF could be perceived as a butch lesbian, if she prefers women. She was different, and she prefers men. I hope, he doesn't think to troon out himself.

No. 2319731

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>troons headcanoning an 11 year boy in baggy clothing as being trans/enby
It's funny how clueless they are about how creepy this comes off

No. 2319755

>>2319362
Well, there are TIMs and TIFs in nursing homes freaking out about their missing dicks and breasts and getting upset when the staff use the wrong pronouns instead of the correct, twansphobic ones. Old fetishists with dementia forget that they're really a woman/boi/genderless gremblin gorblino and live their last days out in a nightmare of their own making. I predict that we'll be seeing a lot more of that.
The issues unique to the trans community also play a big part. Like dying from surgery complications after trying to attach a rolled up piece of arm flesh to the mons pubis to pretend it's a dick. Or getting some horrendous infection after jamming a dilator too hard into a rotpocket and letting shit leak through. Or having serious issues with health from prolonged hormone use and puberty blockers. A lot of trans deaths are from being hit with the reality train and then roping, but so many more deaths are caused by the pure bullshit these people are doing to their own bodies. Not to mention that a lot of the trans community could really benefit from the help of a psychiatrist and maybe CPS, and the many, many unaddressed issues they have can contribute significantly to the presence of trans people in palliative care.

No. 2319758

>>2319731
>troons not being creepy and pedophilic towards children challenge impossible

No. 2319786

>>2319731
>underfed preteen boy forced to wear his spoiled fat cousin’s oversized hand-me-downs because his abusive aunt and uncle refuse to buy him clothes of his own
>gendies: is this a lesbian???

No. 2319857

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my sister is a veterinary and a friend from highschool she hasn't spoken to is years dm'd her to ask her to cut his balls as this retard think it's the same as castrating a dog. The tranny has been so desperate he has mutilitated his balls in hope to get a free sex change in the hospital, i hope he dies trying to cut his dick in his kitchen

No. 2319862

>>2319731
>Never has an eleven year old boy looked so lesbian
It would cost them zero dollars to stop doing whatever the fuck this is.

No. 2319866

>>2319862
They said it like they thought that's never been said before and not a huge stereotype.

No. 2319867

>>2315065
>pretty woman with luscious, deliberately styled feminine hair
>cleavage-baring top
>im a man

okay. Her insistence she's a a bloke reminds me of pt kek

No. 2319874

I know that this would be a better reply in the hidden board but I need more insight on this phenomenon: Did you have a friend/saw someone close who totally (and I mean totally) wasn't into this shit, or even better, made fun of troons when tumblr and engaged in dank memes/gendie humor when it was around (Did you just assume my gender?? type of 2016 shit) and now they're pushing 30 and fell into this shit? Because yeah I can excuse a single friend being secretely mentally ill but now more and more people are talking about discovering their "true" selves. Is it some sort of hysteria? I can get it in younger people: they want attention and community, primordial needs but younger to middle millennials? They lived throught the insanity of what tumblr was, saw countless gender stuff and always made fun of it and then bam, post covid they're changing pronouns, taking hormone blockers and talking about "respect". I get it, you can grow, you can mature and cringe at your old self, fine, but at almost 30 you have to have a crumble of common sense and think about shit, I cannot believe that so many are falling into the troon pipeline. Or maybe I'm just sad, because I saw some old pictures and this friend, who I loved so much, who was a nice guy, slim and funny now it's a fat blob with moobs and poorly applied lipstick and unsufferable personality. It's horrible but I'm wondering if this troon shit hooks itself at already weak individuals or it's just the more exposure phenomenon, on the same level that when you saw a product too much on ads, your brain wants it or to escape the past?

No. 2320027

>>2319874
Midlife crisis? 30 year olds nowadays still struggle to find affordable housing, jobs in the areas they want to work in, they have way less savings than their parents' generation, there's a loneliness problem among everyone of all ages and both genders plus everyone being terminally online makes it easier for a depressed 30 year old to get bombarded with a bunch of ice cold takes from retarded teens who think that being a butch nonbinary male-presenting lesbian but with a vagina has fixed all of their woes. So they troon out hoping that this will give them a new direction in life, instead of buying a sports car or getting regrettable implants. It doesn't work out but the cult has a hold on them by the time they realize that and the sunk cost is too much, or they burned all their bridges and feel stuck.

No. 2320033

My friend and crush has an appointment to start T now. This happens every time I let myself start falling for someone. Being a lesbian in current year is fucking bleak.

No. 2320034

>>2319874
I think it's just that the more desperate and mentally ill a person is, the more likely it is that they're sold a lie and their age doesn't matter that much. If you're depressed for any reason and people around you keep going "we know why you're depressed/unhappy and we have the only cure to it" they're gonna take the bait.

No. 2320035

>>2319857
Ew, frankly that should be reported as sexual harassment and as him being a physical threat to himself.

No. 2320040

>>2319874
It's just the porn addiction they leaned into during covid. Happened to a moid I was friends with for 8 years.

No. 2320348

>>2319874
Yes, I knew a bunch of people like this, except this happened to them even quicker than the pandemic hitting. As soon as the edgelord stuff in 2016 wasn't trendy anymore, so around like 2018-2019, they all suddenly started saying they've changed and started to hate their past "evil" selves, but the pandemic does seem to have intensified that stuff in general. It's like all of a sudden there was this shift where the correct take became doing the exact opposite of before, so not being edgy at all, not being bigoted and so on, which sounds good on paper, but it was taken way too far and we ended up with all this insanity being validated instead, this idea that if you counter how anyone else feels no matter how stupid it is, you're evil. It feels like an overcompensation for the edgy phase before. I also think it's basically people not having any ideals of their own so they latch onto whatever is trendy at the moment, and it feels kinda blackpilling to think so many people just…Don't have that for themselves, like their moral compass hinges on whatever is fed to them through social media. It confused me too and still does, since I'd chat with them and we were on the same page for trans stuff only for them to become like this, while I never really changed because my morals aren't based on whatever is popular to think online at any given time. Like, of course I've grown over time and become more knowledgeable and evolved my views, but never really in the same way as them where they just seem to have moved sides to whatever will gain them the most social brownie points online without considering if it's actually good or not. The biggest proof of this for me is when these people aren't good human beings in every area of their life but still virtue signal a lot, like being a piece of shit that treats others poorly but they're still on social media sucking trans cock. It's like they use it as a replacement for actually being a good person and think that's good enough, so it doesn't matter to them very much what it is or if it's actually good or not, what matters is that they are seen as a good person, hence why they were able to switch sides like that and call you an insane bigot anytime you question anything. It just feels like watching a person become religious and then calling everyone else evil and uneducated, I know I got that from those types of people. I agree that it also has to do with mid life crisis like >>2320027 said, as well as there just being a lot of men who basically absorbed feminism stuff in all the wrong ways, where instead of it making them want to be a better man and not hurt women, they'd rather just stop being men entirely like cowards, so they don't have to change their actions or take any responsibility. That and just wanting to live out their fetishes without any repercussions too, which all this libfem talk about porn being empowering and good just emboldened. None of them want to grow up and become men so they went the route of becoming trans instead to try to escape it even though at the end of the day they're still men and only harming women even more, despite pretending to be soo much more educated than when they were a bigoted misogynist in their edgy years.

No. 2320419

>>2290853
I don’t even know where to start with this one.

No. 2320485

>>2320419
>shorts my mum saw my female friend wearing so it's ok for me to wear (i actally really like them though
how do tifs simultaneously claim clothes have no gender and often embrace being "gnc trans femboys" but also experience crises over liking a pair of shorts that happened to be from the womens' section. jesus christ

No. 2320612

I’m starting to have a suspicious feeling that my lesbian best friend of like 13 years is going to eventually turn into a gendie. Me and her usually send funny stuff to each other but a lot of the “funny” stuff she sends has to do with they/them shit or whatever genderwoo, especially here recently it seems. Idk it’s hard to explain, but it just makes me a bit worried since lesbians are increasingly going extinct.

No. 2320672

>>2320612
Maybe try to talk to her if she feels lost or so. Idk how old you are, but as anon mentioned, a quarterlife crisis can mess you up. Tell her you feel/felt lost, too. And if she opens about her having gender concerns try to answer/help as most realistic as possible. Like, that it normal to feel like this as a woman, that a lot of women go through this. Because of how the world is for women and having to feel like a second class citizen. That wearing non conforming clothes is absolutely fine and a way to express yourself and male/female (clothes, fragrances, haircuts,…) are just labels. I usually would suggest visiting a doc and psychologist but yeah, atm, maybe not the best solution if she is unsure about her gender identity. Talk with her, how men act and think (idk if you date men or not) and if she really thinks the same way. And she has to reflect what the root cause of her thoughts are. Fe. if you feel you don't belong to other women as a group, maybe there is some trauma going on. Listen to her and don't diminish her feelings but answer as rational as possible. This also means, that you have to let go of the fear, that you will lose her, at least as long as you talk about her feelings/thoughts. And try to get her out of the online trans echo chambers, so that she can at least entertain a different perspective.

No. 2320731

I started spending more time on this one website for people struggling with severe depression and felt so understood, there's a lot of autistics too and talking there feels better than therapy sometimes. But then I noticed more and more that it's flooded with trannies, and to add to that one mod is extremely behind them and gave me warnings two times, once for stupidly trying to help somebody and pointing out their emotions might have gotten out of control because of taking estrogen and second one for disagreeing on something with a bpd mtf. It ruined the entire site for me and I'm so pissed. I wish they'd go complain about their issues on dedicated sites instead of flooding every place with their agenda. It's disturbing that they can openly wish the worst and a-log about people who disagree with their ideology and mods protect them, but I get a warning for suggesting something might be harmful out of concern for vulnerable people. Fuck this shit

No. 2320742

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tif friend admitted she has been having an identity crisis for some time now, and wants to talk to me and a couple of other friends about it tomorrow. Here's to hoping she's thinking of detransing and not that she is thinking of another wardrobe change!

No. 2320761

Just a curious thought, but do you nonnas think that all this genderwoo shit will eventually come to an end or won’t be as popular and that people will finally realize how stupid they were in supporting or defending it and that trannies will become the laughing stock of society again? Or is that being too optimistic? Idk I’m just trying not to go too deep into the doomer mindset kek.

No. 2320767

>>2320761
I hope that after more people get surgeries and drugs that mess with hormones and experience side effects the more awareness there will be and the public opinion will eventually shift. It has to end some day, maybe some new movement starts like post genderism kek.

No. 2320770

>>2320731
That sucks, you didn't even do anything wrong. Going to a place like that and just seeing trans people being annoying would make anyone even more depressed than they already are from having to deal with them. You could be the nicest person and they'll just spin it as bigotry every time if it doesn't match their agenda.
>>2320761
I think it will come to an end eventually because it's simply not sustainable long term, everyone knows men are men and women are women and this is just a trendy fad. Once it stops being as popular and something else replaces it I think it'll go back to how it was before with these people existing but being a lot rarer and out of the spotlight. My main concern at this point is just how long it's gonna take, I'm tired of waiting this out but it does feel inevitable.

No. 2320790

>>2320761
Absolutely. Women are more wary than ever of men, so there's more backlash against TIMs. I've seen women turn against TIFs for being gender traitors, accuse them of being misogynists, exclude them from female spaces which you'd think they would want but they don't. Trannies thrive on muh suffering but only the kind that happens in their minds not IRL, they're not happy about the pushback. The Cass report happened, puberty blockers are banned in the UK for under 18s, more and more people are untrooning and talking about how insane the cult is, moids like Honter are looking suspiciously male despite the bolt ons to the point where even faceblind normies notice it, and Ellen Page is a joke. The amount of TIMs going around in public is enough to peak normies just by seeing them, troons are accepted based on the lie that they're really the opposite gender and you can't tell but seeing a hulking hon in what moids think is girl clothes stomping around really shows that trans women do not pass at all and are extremely male. I'm not that sober so sorry if this doesn't make sense. I've seen a few TRA friends post gendercritical stuff but passed off as not gendercritical, like how TIF health is seen as less of a priority than TIM health, TIMs speak at women's events but TIFs don't speak at men's events, talking about the lack of research into women's issues, that sort of stuff, it's like they're peaking but veeeery slowly. Nobody likes troons IRL. Control freaks, hysterical crybabies, bullshit everything to get what they want, backstab everyone all the time, talk shit then cry when confronted. They stick to the internet because nobody can stand those fuckers IRL. They need to control something so they mod chatrooms and develop EDs. The more crazy a troon is online the more hated they are IRL, and the closer they are to either detrooning or roping. They are reaching their mental limits now that lockdown is over and the hormones have not done magic, the mirror and the public don't lie.

No. 2320795

>>2320348
Extremely well said. I personally don't have anything against transgenders at all. Body modifications and identities don't phase me. But the cult mindset on how it affects our friends truly breaks my heart. They become angry yet sensitive at the same time. They discard everyone who loves them. Their own people make them look like a joke with neopronouns and new keywords coming out every week. You're constantly walking on eggshells not to offend them and lose them forever. Once they alienated their whole support system, and damage their bodies with hormonal therapy and end up not looking like what they expected. Then what? How soon until a huge wave of women getting top surgery regret it and cry about the decisions they made online?

No. 2320813

>>2320761
I think troonism as a mainstream thing supported by major medical organizations will end but that it will keep existing in new agey pseudoscience circles. Same thing that happened with multiple personalities and repressed memories.

No. 2320820

>>2320790
>I'm not that sober so sorry if this doesn't make sense
Nonnie, it makes perfect sense, kek.

No. 2320882

>>2320761
Yes but it’ll go out with a whimper, not a bang. You can’t just demand and demand increasingly invasive things from regular people without pushback. The Achilles heel of trannies is that they’re more annoying than they’re vulnerable, and everyone eventually gets fed up with annoying people and stops entertaining them. Institutionally it’s already being questioned and anecdotically I have seen a tick-up in how ok it is to make fun of the histrionic behavior of trannies. It took an entire decade of escalating insanity to get to this point though so don’t be surprised if it takes another decade to snuff it all out. I also don’t think it will disappear entirely it will just be a well understood and mocked crazy minority like anti vaxxers or flat earthers.

No. 2321036

it's so weird when "cis" people are so invested and involved in calling "transphobic" behavior in other cis people when they have nothing to gain, aka a trans relative or partner. for example, i have an online friend that occasionally points fingers at the sooper evil transphobic jokes, or says that x character would be so much better as trans, or makes the kind of jokes you'd expect of a gendie, not a regular cis genderconforming straight guy. he probably has bigger fish to fry, as we all do, so i wonder what does he expect with being an ally? and he doesn't give me any "egg" vibes fortunately, if i were to tell he's probably trying to impress someone. he's a pretty average moid, and the average moid doesn't just fight for a social reason out of the sheer kindness of his heart.

No. 2321052

Why are trannies so bad at picking names? If this is your new super cool identity, shouldn't you really think about your name before transitioning?
In my uni field there's plenty of TIFs and a small minority of TIMs, recently I found out the deadnames of 3 of them:
Sara -> Sam
Charlotte -> Charlie
Marie -> Victor

Outside of the last one, it's just lazy and those 3 are common nicknames for women, so I have no idea why they're so surprised whenever they get misgendered cuz they sure as hell don't look like men and they chose names who don't remind anyone of men. I'm suspecting the one who changed her name to Victor did it cuz of Arcane cuz I know she loves that show but I have no proof about it, it's just a feeling I have.
And the other trannies in my field have ridiculous names as well, like Zaac, Aodren, Echo, Eden… All real names they call themselves. Like really why, this is the same as picking whatever tattoo and not caring if it looks stupid on your body (now thinking about it, a lot of them have ugly tattoos and piercings so I guess it's consistent). If you're gonna troon out, spend more than 5 minutes thinking about your retarded new name.

No. 2321053

>>2321036
Because they've been memed into thinking the hypothetical tranny in the room's feelings are worth more than your actual, real feelings in the situation. Like how some people get really riled up over how you're transphobic for not wanting to date a tranny, no matter how gently explain why it wouldn't work out for you.
When they flail around like your friend does it kinda makes me feel like they're doing it out of guilt, like they're overcompensating for their own passing "transphobic" thoughts and feelings, and instead leaning into and exploring those thoughts and feelings they overcorrect. Like how everyone tried to overcorrect anything slightly racist in the 2000's.

No. 2321262

>>2321036
Your friend could also possibly be a chaser. Might be considered reaching, but I can’t help but get highly suspect when an “average straight cis gender-conforming” moid defends trannies like that or talks about them in such a way, like a character would be “so much better” trans or something.

No. 2321266

>>2321036
He's either a chaser or using transphobia accusations as an excuse to shit on women/people he's jealous of.

No. 2321285

>>2321262
seconding this. i know hes your friend and not ours, but regular straight men will just never mention troons out of the blue like that. hes either an "egg" getting groomed on preddit or a chaser.

No. 2321312

>>2320795
Thanks nonna. It sucks, I've seen people ruin their lives over this many times myself. I think there's already more detransitioners today than a few years ago, but still doesn't seem like enough to stop this unfortunately.
>>2321036
Like other nonnas said he's probably a chaser if he's not an egg himself. And if he's not either of those then he's probably just trying to look like he's a good person and following the crowd. I know guys like this, one gives me the likely to troon out vibe and the other seems like a chaser.

No. 2321362

i've posted before about how my boyfriends sister is a TIF and on a waiting list to get a frankendick, but today was wild. For months now i've been hearing about his sister's boyfriend and all I knew was the boyfriend was muslim. And i was surprised because what muslim man is going to want to date a TIF.
Anyway, I met the "boyfriend" this morning. The "boyfriend" is a TIF as well, idk why I didn't expect that. She even has blue hair.
And I accidentally found a comically large buttplug in his sister's bedroom drawer while looking for something. It's so surreal getting an in depth glimpse at this.

No. 2321385

>>2321362
Lol, welcome to the club, I posted a few days ago about a classmate with a boyfriend and me believing he was suddenly bi. Then I saw the boyfriend. It is a woman.
It's nuts.

No. 2321852

Always hilarious how every troon (especially AGPs) is indistinguishable in their speech and behaviors from the regular male coomer despite crying about how they have a ~female soul~. They're just so incredibly male in every single way, can't go one day without posting coomshit like every other degenerate male but they'll still pretend they're not like the other men kek.

No. 2321857

>>2321036
He is going to troon out or he’s into shemales, aka a chaser faggot.

No. 2321860

>>2321362
>Comically large buttplug
Kekkk now I want to know the scale

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>>2320882
It will go out the same way kink Tumblr and ddlg Tumblr did. There were hundreds of ddlg blogs and even more Instagram accounts. A little after the "no kink shaking!!" era, these accounts were disappearing and getting abandoned as so many people involved were being told that their boyfriends were pedophiles and they were being disgusting trying to act like babies while trying to be seductive. Now you hear nothing from the community. The only people left that practice ddlg openly on social media isn't "daddieskttenuwu" it's back to being "subqueen1989" with a private account with a link to their FetLife in bio.

This gender ideology trend will be no different and be for sure a whimper. Accounts will be wiped, people will avoid talking about it, and they will call everyone who is still trans an age player. Maybe a few "being trans ruined my life" people crying about their own actions

No. 2322108

>>2321036
I don't care if it's a force of habit, the moment I hear anyone say c*s I just tune everything they say afterwards out

No. 2322184

svu needs to stop making tranny episodes. Like there is no way in hell the six foot tranny with linebacker shoulders and a caveman brow was the uguu sad wittle victim of rape who just wants to pee. Get real. I miss transphobic olivia from the early seasons

No. 2322295

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Putting this on the list of things that never happened, also tras clearly don't know their enemy and I find this shit so funny

No. 2322315

>>2322295
>idea that someone would fight that hard to be a woman
She probably cried from laughter kek

No. 2322376

anyone else feel a bit flattered about trannies existing?
it's kind of nice knowing thousands of people (derange but still) would kill to be me
like i'm just an average girl hanging out making putting 0 effort in my appearance while some people have to devote years of their lives and thousands of money to try and be me
idk.. kind of crazy to me

No. 2322381

>>2322376
I've never actually believed the whole "they'd kill to be me (average woman)" thing. I don't think they'd kill to be me, they'd kill to be some pornified version of me kek.

No. 2322384

>>2322376
Now realize that what you just described doesn’t just stop at trannies. It extends to all men, past and present.

No. 2322390

>>2320742
How did it go anon?

No. 2322417

>>2322376
Not really, but it’s because trannies have skinwalked me so I just find it unnerving. They don’t really want to be me but whatever weird version they have created in their head. It’s demeaning at best and terrifying at worst.

No. 2322513

>>2322376
Like other nonnas said, they mostly just want to become the pornified version of us in their head, I don't think they want to live the life of an average or even below average woman because to them it's like we don't exist, they see women as only being a set of stereotypes and pornified ideas they have in their head. They would hate to actually have to exist as an average woman despite all their whining otherwise.

That said, I do find it funny how so many men claim women (or what they think a woman is) are inferior but then they end up wanting to become what they supposedly hate, the incel to troon pipeline is hilarious. They spend all day hating women and projecting only to troon out and wish they were the thing they hate. There is also a certain feeling of "lmao look at these losers who desperately wish they had body parts I naturally have" to it, so I think I get what you're saying.

No. 2322538

>>2322376
No, they don’t troon out because they love women so much and admire us so much. They literally troon out because they’re either so misogynistic and can’t cope with being faggots that take it up their ass that they delude themselves that they’re women (HSTS) , since you know, only women are the ones getting fucked or they watch so much porn they end up developing a fetish (Transbians and AGPs).
They repulse me profoundly each and any of them, there are no good trannies out there because they’re all cut from the same cloth.

No. 2322732

>>2322376
no these men are still raping and abusing their female partners and women in their social circles, as well as bullying lesbians into sleeping with them

No. 2322783

>>2322376
that's like asking if any women feel flattered by catcalling. no, i don't like being perceived and treated as a fetish object whose primary purpose is men's sexual gratification

No. 2322833

>>2322376
If they envied us out of genuine respect and admiration maybe I'd feel this way, but they don't. They're either incels who think we have easy privileged lives or pervs who think being female is inherently degrading and get off to it because they have humiliation fetishes or both.

No. 2322992

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I'm tired of gendieshit jumpscares in books. There's so many nowadays. I'll just randomly start reading something that seems interesting and then boom random gender nonsense. So far, this happened in Fantasy, Sci-Fi, and literary fiction. I'm reading a short story collection with a friend and one of them is about being genderqueer and I have no idea what I'm going to say to her when we get to that one.

No. 2323025

File: 1735335804584.gif (2.39 MB, 498x270, tenor-4151637734.gif)

>at the holiday christmas party
>former co-worker/tenuous friend mentions her niece's budding "queerness"
>proceeds to explain that her niece wants to go by they/them pronouns and a different name. also wants to wear boy clothes. decided she was a theybie because the internet "inspired" her and her friends reaffirmed it over and over. the aforementioned co-worker proceeds to say she is helping her niece have a smooth "transition" and won't tell her parents about "their little secret"
>i ask how old the kid is
>twelve
>twelve years old
>mfw preteen girls can't just wear comfortable boy clothes without having gendie retards shove bullshit onto them

No. 2323030

>>2322992
>sci-fi/fantasy
autists love sci-fi and escapism through fantasy also goes along with escaping your problems through identifying as trans
>literary fiction
trans is in vogue and the most interesting thing these people have going for them, they have nothing to say otherwise

No. 2323035

>>2323030
None of the authors of the books I've complained about are trannies though. It's both male and female authors as well. It's just fucking everywhere

No. 2323038

>>2323025
Blackpilled again

No. 2323042

>>2323025
When I was 12 I wore my dad’s old clothes because I was too fat for my sister’s. Good god I would’ve been forced to become a tranny or walk around with my flat tits out.

No. 2323050

File: 1735337151302.png (227.7 KB, 627x634, ohshutup.png)

>“When it comes to animated content for a younger audience, we recognize that many parents would prefer to discuss certain subjects with their children on their own terms and timeline”
I mean, sexuality is always hard to talk about when you have children, but I don't blame them for speaking about transgenderism or the cult behind it, when there are people in Internet telling to minors that daddy or mommy doesn't love you for not being in HTR or T in such young age or "you're already trans if you think so".

No. 2323053

>>2322295
Any sane woman would be grossed out to find how men want to experience periods, genital mutilation, "girly childhood" and more under the pretext "I want to feel like a real woman", when we know is for fetish reasons. That mom probably cried because her daughter is an idiot.

No. 2323054

>>2323050
>HTR
This is the second time you've typed it like this. It's "HRT" retard. It stands for "hormone replacement therapy."

No. 2323056

>>2323025
Anonymously tell the parents. I'm serious. Used a burner e-mail or something. This is grooming.

No. 2323057

>>2322992
The key is to read something written before 2010, nona

No. 2323060

>>2322295
People born with cocks need to shut up about womanhood, actually, since they do not and will never experience it no matter how hard they LARP. "Transmisogyny," is just homophobia, because people see a moid in a dress and just assume he's a fag.

No. 2323061

>>2320419
kek, I like how she starts the video with "minus stuff my mom bought me to make me dysphoric" meanwhile all the stuff she got are the most female-coded things. Do they ever think about if any cis men are getting bath bombs, "queer coded" literature and pretty boy cosplays for christmas?

Off topic but, I'm suprised her room doesn't elicit dysphoria either. How many men have photo collage walls in their room? These mofos always have the most feminine mannerisms for people claiming to be men lol.

No. 2323062

>>2320761
I think it will die off gradually, the way the hippie movement and recovered memory did.

No. 2323065

>>2321036
It's virtue signaling or the person is a future troon himself.

No. 2323069

>>2323035
oh in that case it still applies, as trans people are big in the online sci-fi/fantasy communities so these authors can get readers and also not make be as big targets for harassment. And the same goes with literary fiction, no one wants to tackle anything of substance about today's society so they write nonsense about gender identity instead.

No. 2323076

>>2323054
I wonder if it's the same anon who keeps typing 3DPG kek
I didn't want to say anything because I don't want to be mean and she didn't do anything wrong but now that someone else mentioned it, her typing style is so recognizable, in particular her atrocious use of prepositions

No. 2323087

>>2322108
I hope you don't work in organic chemistry, kek.

No. 2323088

>>2322295
Because a man fought to be a woman, woman are worth being… Cute.

No. 2323093

>>2321036
Personally I think a lot of male supporters get off on knowing they're making women uncomfortable. They get to boss people around with pronoun correction and shove male fetishism in peoples faces with minimal consequence. It's a power rush. Once I observed male friend groups who don't identify as trans pulling this shit, about how they hoped a trans woman would be "more masculine" in order to "make transophobes uncomfortable" it all clicked to me.

No. 2323181

I got kicked out of my nail polish group for saying men aren't lesbians. I want to go nuclear.

No. 2323206

>>2321362
>accidentally
what were you looking through her drawers for, hmm?

No. 2323234

>>2323181
This is the worst. I'm sorry you dealt with that bs. Truth is now condemned by these pick me bitches.

No. 2323238

>>2320790
Do you think Ellen page will detrans or 41% in 2025?

No. 2323245

>>2322184
I can't believe SVU is still going. I cannot fathom why any woman wants to watch a show soley based on sexual crimes. I only saw a few episodes years ago, and one of them was a tranny killed a man who found out he was a dude at a party. He didnt want to get 'outed' then the tranny got sentenced to a male prison and gang raped. kek

No. 2323246

>>2322992
Buy older books. Anything before 2012 really doesnt have gender bullshit. Most of my books are Tolkien or Stephan King.

No. 2323255

For 2025 I hope that my TIF coworker detransitions and that my TIM coworker quits and/or kills himself.

No. 2323271

File: 1735348476343.png (207.53 KB, 633x827, terf.png)

>>2322295
>TERFs hate trans women because they hate all women and womanhood itself.
No, we hate them because they're moids trying to appropriate stuff they don't belong to.

No. 2323279

>>2323271
The original post is really sweet when you’re a young, naive “ally” and don’t realize it’s a fetish for so many of them.

No. 2323288

>>2323238
I think she'll double down on the trooning and make a million movies and documentaries about how hormones saved her from being a lesbian. Then when tranny shit is well and truly forgotten about she'll either quietly detrans.
I think she was on the verge of suicide long before she trooned out, and if she doesn't get therapy she's going to eventually 41%, but I don't think it'll be any time soon. She's been in the middle of a very long mental breakdown for years, the trooning is just another stage of it. When/if she detranses she's probably going to join another cult.

No. 2323292

>>2323271
whats womanhood? high heels and make up? because moids cannot experience true womanhood, which is painful and not sold at wallmart in a sparkly pink package

No. 2323296

>>2323271
>"my mom thinks transwomen are empowering because they broke her cycle of internalized misogyny!"
I'm trusting my intuition that this just never happened at all. This stems from projection, partially made up on the spot, and is thinly disguised as a "point" to throw at a group of women they do not understand.

No. 2323408

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>>2323245
ayrt its one of the main shows they play at the blood donor clinic by my house and now im invested. it’s also good background noise for when im working. Unrelated to you but kek to this being in my recommended tab

No. 2323439

>>2323255
Oooooh encourage him to make a photo collage of his transition timeline! Face and body pics! Himself in his dream outfits now vs in 6 months! He'll be thrilled with your idea and you'll be thrilled with the results.
Not sure how you can help your TIF coworker, but I hope her brain cells start to function soon.

No. 2323463

>>2323271
>Nobody adores gender stereotypes and performing hyperfemininity like a transwoman and nobody will fight as hard for it
>We're the best possible allies you could have against the patriarchy
Male moment

No. 2323519

>>2323271
"Nobody adores disability like an unemployed munchie scammer and nobody will fight as hard for it. They're the best possible allies you could have against ableism."

No. 2323520

>>2323519
KEK

No. 2323533

>>2323271
The stereotypical trappings of womanhood that moids can perform don’t need to be fought for. They’re backed by multibillion dollar industries. Call me when a transwoman does something for the half of the population that gets fucked over every which way on the basis of their reproductive system.

No. 2323537

>>2323245
It's probably because the criminals are clearly portrayed as the bad guys and the whole main cast hates them and often succeeds in catching them so it might be cathartic to the women who watch it

No. 2324162

File: 1735425158540.png (2.53 MB, 1378x1026, f-you-trannies.png)

I saw picrel while on a walk. It's just blatant misogyny, like the trannies are not even pretending anymore. And this cultist dogma is inescapable–I was out in nature when I saw this ffs. I took it down but it must have been there for awhile bc the text of the sticker left a residue on the metal ugh

No. 2324223

>>2324162
>A sticker for those who have run out of words for the insane stupidity of pretending men can be women.
https://www.letwomenspeak.org/men-make-better-women-sticker
You removed a terf sticker. LMAO

No. 2324224

>>2324223
They need to make better stickers

No. 2324226

>>2324223
Nta but I don't get the point then? I know it's probably meant to be black propaganda, but even then it doesn't really work for me. It just looks like a typical feel good slogan that troons use, something handmaidens would eat up. It doesn't make me angry enough to be considered good black propaganda. Maybe a better way to do it would be "MEN ARE BETTER AT BEING WOMEN THAN WOMEN" because then it would add a lot more overt misogyny and help the handmaidens to come out of their delusions.

No. 2324228

>>2324224
one of the art nonas should design a better sticker lol

No. 2324233

>>2324162
I feel like this could have been done better, because I only got sexism and not terfy vibes from the sticker.

No. 2324234

>>2323245
Kekk. If it would air now the trannies would seethe and call it transphobic

No. 2324249

TIFs who are overwhelming oldest (firstborn) daughters almost always proceed to destroy their bodies with their little sisters enabling this bullshit, but TIFs who have older sisters, their older sisters are almost always against it for whatever reason, including non gender-critical ones (e.g. i want her to be a cute little sister not some masculine woman like me). What is this phenomenon?

No. 2324257

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_posh
I have no suitable pics but here's an article i came across
Can't help to wonder what if in a given family with a "Bacha Posh", one of the OTHER daughters come out as trans? This ain't addressed but it's thought worthy.

No. 2324265

>>2324257
Bacha posh isn't comparable to troonism. The societies in which bacha posh happens aren't infected with troon ideology.

No. 2324268

>>2324226
Idk how you could confuse it for being pro-tranny, when would they EVER admit to being men?

The target audience of that sticker is most likely offline normies, not radfems or troons. A normie is gonna see it and go "wtf that's dumb, is that what transgenderism is all about??" and be turned off the entire concept.

No. 2324272

>>2324265
I mean my point was originally in extreme cases where families with one daughter raised as a boy to whatever extent (can even be simple examples such as given duties in the household reserved for boys etc.), what if the daughter who ISN'T the one raised as a boy comes out as TIF.

No. 2324278

>>2324268
it's just a little unclear, I've definitely heard trannies say how "girls with penises are better than c*ssies!!" and the sticker 100% sounds like something a chaser would say lol

No. 2324283

>>2324278
But its probably something created by a moid to troll troons

No. 2324286

File: 1735432441852.png (184.09 KB, 1028x574, sticker ideas.png)

>>2324268
>When would they ever admit to being men
It's pretty common line in pro-troon spaces online, stuff like "men are better women," "boys are better at being girls," etc., I see it a lot from edgy zoomer troons especially.

I just don't think it works as a piece of black propaganda because it's not as overt as it should be. Most normies would see that and think "aw, so brave and stunning! I will now take the knee for this byootiful hon!" because normies are brain dead, that's the whole reason why the troon cult became so successful to begin with. If you want to make a good piece of black propaganda, it has to be more overt and inspire more rage.

I only spent <5 minutes making picrel, but I think these stickers would be better because they're more rage-inducing. You want the audience to be angry or upset by the propaganda, that way they can abandon the troon cult quicker. It's not enough to confuse, the audience must be angered.

No. 2324292

>>2324268
Speaking as a former handmaiden who had tranny friends they do genuinely think and speak like this. I’ve heard stupid shit like this with retarded reasoning like they appreciate being a woman more than actual women therefore do it better. Sorry sis this sticker just doesn’t get the point across that it wants to.

No. 2324300

>>2324292
Fair enough, lets say trannies do say things like that. But then wouldn't that make the sticker more effective? As I said, I assume it's intended for normies who don't really know anything about gender ideology, not as an empowering message to GC women. An average person sees a man claiming hes better at being a woman than a woman, and they're gonna find it offensive, bizarre or amusing. They're not going to be like 'so true, I'm definitely in favour of trannies now'. They're gonna be very much against it. Nobody but trannies could see that as a positive message, it makes them look extremely bad.

The biggest thing troons have in their favour is that most people genuinely don't know how bad they are, that's the only reason they get away with it despite 99% of people knowing that men cant become women. They force team with legit causes (gay rights), they play innocent with 'we just want to pee!', they let people think they're all just effeminate gay men who are no danger to anyone. If you really think about it, the best campaign against trannies would be for their words to be used against them so everyone can see what they're really like.

No. 2324369

>>2324268
>Idk how you could confuse it for being pro-tranny
If I saw it in the wild I'd think it was a forcefem sissy fetish thing. Troons used to claim those people were chasers fetishising them but most troons seem to support them now and consider them eggs.

No. 2324396

>>2324286
i really like your takes on black propaganda nonna, but three out of these four stickers have unfortunately become common dogma now. i could only see "real men prefer trans women" having an effect because it's not asking women to bow down as per usual, it's asking something of straight men, though i might add a dick to really drive the point home kek.

if we want to talk black propaganda, i'm still of the belief that a lot of women (TIFs included) would have some serious questions if they saw what was being said on /tttt/, trans supremacy blogs on tumblr, comments on r/mtf and egg_irl, and basically anywhere very heavily male-dominated where troons dont have to hold back their true feelings. TIMs put up a progressive veneer on twitter because they know women are watching, but what many dont know is that those very same TIMs either come from or retreat to these spaces later.

taking jabs at the predatory nature of egg-cracking culture (present in both TIMs and TIFs) would also be a good move, because i don't think normies would appreciate the notion of some troon(s) gathering to speculate on their (or a loved ones) transness and forming plans to manipulate them. exposing the practice and its prevalence would sow some well-earned distrust.

again, no manufacturing required, just finding some short and sweet authentic troon caps and slapping "trans approved" on it with the flag colors to draw the viewer in. perhaps that addition will even prompt a brief moment of reflection in whichever troon tries to take it down (especially if its a TIF). most likely though, it's going to be a normie noticing that it's been taken down and realizing that the creeps approving these messages may just be walking amongst them.

No. 2324479

>>2322992
Also very unfortunate to read a great book from a female author and proceed to look up her other works, only to find out this 40ya woman is now tweeting about being non-binary and protecting trans kids.

No. 2324925

>>2324396
I like that idea, maybe add a code, that if scanned with a mobile phone, brings them directly to the source of the quote. They then could read the whole shit for themselves.
Or some trans awareness pro-trans seeming sticker, like "if you are interested in information about the trans community and how to support them follow this" and the code/s links them to source/s.

No. 2325010

>>2323238
He will live like kings while you terf hags will age like shit while smelling your own period blood, seethe(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 2325126

Lmaoooo

No. 2325390

>>2324479
Ugh, you reminded me of Janelle Monae. Now I can't listen to her music without being reminded of what a massive pickme she is. It's a little bit more understandable when an author does this on Twitter since they could be trying to drum up an audience of gullible gendies who buy everything that has kewl pronouns, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I see that an author I like is a misogynist who supports male rapists in women's prisons. We need to go back to the days when publishers hired separate people to deal with publicity.

No. 2325395

>>2324479
I don't know why only women go through this bullshit phase. It's so disheartening.

No. 2325399

>>2323288
It looked like she was already under eating during the filming of Umbrella Academy too. What a shit choice for that role. Now her character is rewritten in the show to be a tranny

>>2324234
kek, tras would be like "omg, the brave transwomen was just trying to protect herself from the transphobic cis man!!1"

No. 2325624

>>2323060
That’s charitable of you. In my experience most ‘transmisogyny’ is actual homosexuality i.e. lesbians not wanting to sleep with them, and people getting fed up with TIMs because of how gross and annoying they are. I rarely see them refer to actual persecution or violence as transmisogyny. It seems to be a word they invented especially to pressure TIFs and handmaidens (those nasty tmes) into falling in line.

>>2323238
Like >>2323288 said I think she will double down initially. Her entire life and career now revolves around transgenderism and “trans rights”. She wrecked her relationships and her health over it. Crawling back from that would be extremely difficult even for someone who still has a support system and isn’t a public figure.
I hope for her sake that she manages to turn it around and detransitions, whether she becomes a detransition spokesperson or disappears from public view entirely to live her life in peace. But I think it’s far more likely that she’ll become a trans martyr, either through her own wishes or posthumously through the opportunists and enablers who’ve latched on to her. Her “coming out” was timed to obfuscate the Keira Bell ruling and it wouldn’t surprise me whatsoever if the announcement of her death or the release of her suicide note were used in a similar way. To some of the people currently enabling her, she’d probably be more politically useful dead than alive.

No. 2325736

>>2323238
>>2325624
The average detransition time for women is 3-6 years (and for men it's a bit more, up to 8 years) so it's a bit early but close to that for Ellen to realize, internalize, and being brave enough to take the step to actually detransition and become public with it. She transitioned in December of 2020 (so basically in 2021) meaning she's just entering the most likely detransition years. I'm guessing for public people like her it will take more years rather than fewer, but I can't see her make it past a decade as trans, she looks far too miserable all the time.

My prediction is that when her time comes she will silently enter a butch lesbian era, publicly pretending to still be a transman for while but in private starting to go by she/her again. She'll likely first identify as non-binary for a while too and ease into it while getting used to being seen as a woman again.

Ellen's ex-wife was pretty butch so I think that was a big reason she wanted to troon out, she is attracted to and wanted to be butch too but "couldn't" because she was the fem one in her relationship. I think if Ellen ends up dating a fellow tif (which is very likely) she'll stay delusional longer, but if she gets memed into dating a "woman" tim she'll peak in an instant.

No. 2325999

>>2325395
Nona I don’t know if this will make you feel better or worse but I’ve been seeing a small handful of moids in “protect trans kids” shirts/patches at live music shows recently. They don’t appear to be tims or tifs either, like full blown males. I do wonder if it’s chasers, moids trying to appeal to handmaid libfems/tifs, or a mix of both

No. 2326471

File: 1735605708353.png (205 KB, 608x799, based.png)

If those kids could read they'd be very upset.

No. 2326778

File: 1735624083673.jpg (88.69 KB, 1024x768, 1000001130.jpg)

It will forever baffle me how they'll force their identity on innocent cis characters like Spider Gwen and other obvious cis characters. But never want to actually use a character like Tweedy that's neither gender, and shows feminine and masculine traits. I just feel like they don't really care to look into media and find what really is their representation or what can be. They just want the most popular or beautiful character. Not to mention claiming cross dressing trap characters as "trans". If they make their own stuff, it usually turns out like Owl House, a larp where the gendies that have opposite aesthetics end up liking each other.

No. 2326917

File: 1735632951335.mp4 (4.82 MB, 480x854, re8foO0.mp4)

what did he hope to accomplish here?

No. 2326930

>>2323025
Thank god, i was born in 1998, i’d hate to be a kid now

No. 2327140

>>2326778
Tweety is girl you chaser

No. 2327169

File: 1735664035016.jpeg (36.58 KB, 736x736, D1D9F5BF-91D3-487C-9D24-E6FE4F…)

My TiM brother is visiting for the holidays. Last night I was giving him a hard time for referring to my hobby (knitting) as fiber arts. I asked if he knew I knit or crochet and what the difference is. He gave a decent response so I mentioned he now knew more than the husbands who have been married to their wives for a decade and don’t know what hobby she has still. He then got offended and said he was a wife not a husband. I was so taken aback because that was literally not the fucking point of what I said at all. I hate troons so much.

No. 2327212

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I’m playing a new farming/creature collecting sim called Moonstone Island. It’s very cute, but of course at least three of the romanceable NPCs are genderspecials. The carpenter, called Paolo, is apparently a non-binary they/them and probably considers himself latinx (dios mio!).
Usually these games try to make the theythems at least a little bit androgynous, or theythem is just an edgy woman with a choker and dyed hair. This is the first time I’ve seen a whole ass hairy lumberjack get the theythem treatment.
Bless Stardew Valley for not caving to pronoun bullshit, seriously.

No. 2327258

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I howled at this, they tell on themselves so much. Yeah, that little boy who escaped reality is now a grown man still escaping reality but with a woman/crossdressing man this time. The little boy was allowed to be happy too, and so is the grown man he became, but he's not a she and that's not going to change no matter how much he copes and seethes.
>>2326917
I cannot wait for the day when this shit is used to hold these men and their handmaidens accountable for their bullshit. Seriously hoping that 2025 is the year that more pandemic trannies detrans and talk about how vile the TIMs are, the more we speak up about how entitled and narcissistic they are the less likely it is that there will be pushback against anti-troon laws.

No. 2327505

File: 1735685390750.png (76.98 KB, 624x625, transfamine.png)

>Every trans adult was a trans child.
Every trans adult was a gay child who was told that being gay is a sin/horrible/fetish.

No. 2327508

>>2327258
That little boy spent his time wearing his sister's underwear because "onichan is being kawaii and hentai".

No. 2328188

File: 1735754379548.jpg (94.4 KB, 752x417, ttp.jpg)

I found an interesting read elaborating on why trannies tend to be psychopaths:
https://www.the11thhourblog.com/post/the-psychopathology-of-transwomen

>How ‘TW’ display psychopathy
>Impaired empathy and remorse: ‘TW’ do not consider the impact of their behaviors on others. They assert their ‘right’ to invade all aspects of women’s lives. From sports, to toilets, to breastfeeding and stillbirth groups. It matters not that their presence is causing disruption, discomfort, fear and anger. The mirror neurons that would normally trigger empathy are either absent or dysfunctional. The ‘TW’ therefore does not experience the negative emotions their presence is causing to others. They are incapable of feeling empathy.
>Boldness: These men’s low response to stress means they are not inhibited by fear (at least, not of women). They go anywhere and do anything they please. We have seen this recently with a group of ‘TW’ filming themselves dancing in the female toilets in the House of Congress. They are enraged at Rep Nancy Mace’s Bill which would (officially) bar them from the female toilets. But this pathological boldness is not only shown by their transgression into female spaces. It is shown in their aggressive response to what they perceive as any attack on ‘Trans Rights’. This is why academic meetings are shut down; it is why ‘GC’ women are chased and hounded in the street; it is why women now need police protection to discuss their rights; it is why Kellie Jay Keane had soup thrown over her and why JK Rowling and has had thousands of death and rape threats. It is why any woman who challenges these men does so at the risk of her livelihood and safety of herself and her family.
>Sadism: I add this as a new specific trait in my definition of psychopathy as it relates to ‘TW’. I believe many transvestite men have a profound hatred of women (probably a result of disordered primary attachments). As such, they are motivated by sadistic urges to ‘punish’ any woman who will not meet their psychological ‘needs’ (i.e. to be accepted as female). Why else would a ‘TW’ insert himself into a group for mothers grieving a stillbirth, or film themselves carrying out sex acts in women’s toilets or threaten ‘Terfs’ whilst carrying knives and guns?
>Disinhibition/Immunity to stress: This is a classic manifestation of TTP. We see this most typically in the increasingly common ‘bathroom selfies’, where ‘TW’ post online videos of themselves masturbating in women’s toilets, often in the full sight of women. We see this in the ‘TW’ who shaved in a @PlanetFitness ladies’ toilet, or the ‘TW’ who walked around naked in @WiSpa_USA in Los Angeles. As well as these more extreme examples, this trait is on show every time a ‘TW’ leaves the house dressed in female clothing. Most of us would be too inhibited to appear in public dressed in a way that so wholly flouts the norms of our culture. Test yourself: If you are white, would you wear an afro wig? Would you wear a sari or a thobe, or say, traditional African clothing? Would you black up? The answer is likely to be “no”, (and if “yes” would you not feel even a slightly bit self-conscious?). Your stress hormones would be activated. You would sweat, you would feel embarrassed and uncomfortable. Other people’s feelings and reactions would matter to you. But in the TTP none of these neurobiological or behavioral reactions occur. They don’t even break a sweat. Their disinhibition renders them uncaring and indifferent to the feelings and reactions of others.
>Egocentrism: To the TTP the only thing that matters is the fulfillment of his own ego-drives. This is why they typically break social boundaries and insert themselves into women’s spaces. It also explains why the Autogynephile will demand their wives and children now accept them as ‘female’. They are quite happy to force their children to call them ‘Mum’ and to destroy marriages by insisting they have changed sex. This thinking also allows men to ‘chest-feed’ their children and even their grandchildren. The TTP is living in his own universe. He is the star around which everything orbits. Literally nothing and nobody else is of any consequence to him.

No. 2328196

>>2326778
you don't have to say "cis" nonnie it's ok I know they'll try to convince you it just means not trans, but then you have to realize youre just playing into their ideology by implying there are female born woman and "male born woman". also not to nitpick but tweety bird is a boy. you could argue how they like to claim bugs bunny is genderfluid because he crossdresses for laughs

No. 2328402

>>2319449
You're welcome. Looking at that thumbnail and
>self-aware AGP
KEK, this guy appears in interviews with lesbian-themed jewelry, LARPs as lesbian while acting concerned for lesbian spaces, goes on and on about how 'fembrained' he is in comparison to other AGPs (people lie about having desirable traits all the time). In reality he comes across as a weak, odd yet obviously masculine male, like most troons. A big tell is how his voice breaks into a very masculine range, compared to him Shapiro and Peterson sound like Kyary Pamyu Pamyu
I kekked when he coped by saying
>these other malebrained agps are awful, it's all sexual and they will get bored! Unlike me and my romantic, trve anatomical AGP
Actually sex pest AGPs just keep chasing the high. There's no such thing as asexual, romantic AGP, you can't have a romantic relationship with a fetish object, romance happens between people.
>blanchardians are a bizarre little niche
Yep, they’re funny. The obsession with Blanchard might be because he's a scientist who acknowledges their sexual drive and is sympathetic without the pretense of LGBT rights (this is likely where TiM advocacy is headed towards). To me it looks like they're trying to soften the blow of GC discourse by ignoring the breakdown of boundaries that occurs when you indulge publicly in a fetish. Enter the 'romantic AGP’, 'asexual AGP' ‘AGP is sexual orientation, not just a fetish’ and 'paraphilias are genetic' discourse that occurs in that corner. Blanchardians are basically regular troons who are capable of some introspection, but they use the same old rebuttals such as calling people who disagree 'repressors’. As if not crossdressing in public as an AGP is anything but basic social etiquette.
Anyways, it's funny to see them craft their arguments because it's still about making it into a kind of legitimate sexual orientation, it's still about concealing the fetish mechanism (by watering it down) and it's still about stressing how urgent it is to let a bunch of fish eyed men LARP as women in public without pushback.
Oh and that Phil Illy guy who interviews him is such a creep, his american psycho vibes and attention whoring really shine in longform content, my god.

No. 2328901

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>>2327212
>Usually these games try to make the theythems at least a little bit androgynous, or theythem is just an edgy woman with a choker and dyed hair. This is the first time I’ve seen a whole ass hairy lumberjack get the theythem treatment.
this reminds me of scarlet hollow which is an amazing horror visual novel save for a genderspecial thembie moid character. picrel is literally a grown ass man with chest hair on full display but i'm supposed to see him as neither male or female, yeah sure.
on the bright side his obvious maleness makes it easier to tune out the pronouns and enjoy the game, especially since it's never pointed out - the whole town somehow magically knows to they/them him and it's never made a big deal.

No. 2329000

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pathetic honestly

No. 2329006

>>2329000
Sorry but people who try so hard to get likes through memeart look desperate as fuck

No. 2329010

>>2329000
>>2329006
What does this have to do with this thread's topic? I don't get it.

No. 2329014

>>2329010
It's jk Rowling babes, Twitter retards think it's cool to harass and obsess over her since she's a terf

No. 2329022

>>2329010
Tras accused her of having black mold in her house and ever since then, that's been their go to ad hominem attack against her. I think it's extremely ironic considering i've never seen a tranny barring the classic hsts troons with a clean room, they all usually live in squalor.

No. 2329024

>>2329022
It was obvious it was wallpaper too. They forcememe anything involving her

No. 2329131

>>2327169
Have you ever asked him if he stole your underwear?

No. 2329162

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Uh oh. I am shocked.
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/31/almost-two-thirds-of-trans-women-prisoners-sex-offenders/
>Out of the 245 trans women inmates, who are legally recognised as male, a total of 151, or 62 per cent, had committed at least one sexual offence.
>It was not clear where these inmates were held within the prison estate. A Ministry of Justice spokesman said: “Well over 90 per cent of transgender women in custody are held in the men’s estate and those who’ve been convicted of sexual or violent offences – and/or who retain male genitalia – cannot be held in a women’s prison unless in truly exceptional circumstances.”

No. 2329166

>>2329162
I wonder when will mainstream media start to realize this. The “womanly inner feeling” doesn’t explain why these scrotes still behave like males.


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