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No. 2252408
This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.
>What is gender ideology? Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.
Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.
Previous threads:
>>>/ot/2191693>>>/ot/2121106>>>/ot/2037097>>>/ot/1894283>>>/ot/1941872>>>/ot/1991983>>>/ot/2097274Relevant /snow/ threads:
>>>/snow/2046188 (MTF general)
>>>/snow/2041204(FTM general) No. 2252417
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i'm playing agatha knife and it fills my terfy heart with joy
No. 2252509
>>2252458There are probably people who feel the same way you do. If you have a good relationship with people charge, and they haven't drunk the koolaid, ask them to keep the trans talk in check, because all the troon talk crowds out talk about the people in Gaza or whatever other discussions would override their cater to troons reaction.
Or try to find the others who hate all the trans talk and try and take them with you to start your own group.
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had the misfortune of stumbling across this ugly mug eugh
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why are these people so hellbent on ruining everything
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I know this thread is going to be biased here but the tinfoil thread is the most unmedicated thing I've ever seen so I ask here: do we think this is actually the work of troons, or is this transparently a psyop? I just feel like troon sentiment is more likely to be "4B is an inclusive movement for ALL women!" and this is just attempting to poison the notion by tainting it with the terf label.
No. 2252771
>>2252752A tranny definetly wrote that. I've been seeing first hand the women interested in joining the 4B movement in the west but absolutely no talk of troons is there. Take notice of the fact that troons are immediately painted as the
victim and are mentioned on the wiki page before there's any context of 4B's history or why it's a movement to begin with.
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>>2252548West 4B is a hate group for moids and tims, that's the difference.
No. 2252795
>>2252771It’s not surprising but I am so sad to see the discussion of 4B move from the subject of women’s oppression to focusing on the exclusion of TiMs.
Not that long ago wasn’t there a story about a TiM Wikipedia editor editing articles to be trans inclusive at the detriment of the article itself?
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>>2252752>misandric websiteKEK
Only slightly related, but a while ago me and a friend were looking at the GC feminism wiki page to see how biased it was, and we were surprised that 4B wasn't mentioned or linked in the South Korean section. Maybe because this this quote from picrel:
>"the radical stance of today's [young] feminists has a tendency to emphasize the identity of the 'female body' as based on the category of the 'biological woman,' taking an attitude of excluding 'biological' men refugees, and transgender people"Is directly at odds with this part from the 4B wiki page:
>The 4B movement is meant to serve as a direct opposition to South Korea’s patriarchal state and combat its pro-natalist policies, which view women’s bodies and reproductive abilities as tools for the state’s future. No. 2253381
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>>2252752>>2252771trannies stay telling everyone that they are moids in disguise kek like way to make sure everybody knows that trans women aren't real women at all with the way they insert themselves into a conversation like this
No. 2253674
>>2250687late but is this bait? no need to exaggerate things or make them up, that just gives fodder for trannies claiming everyone's out to get them and everything bad said about them is made up. op can just tell that a male being present made her uncomfortable and felt inapproppriate.
also wtf "he felt able to be silly with you", that's so unprofessional and inaproppriate in the situation.
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What's the best site to peak people? For me it's
https://transcrimeuk.com - just a single glance leaves the person unsettled. Then you can add that every single one of them has the legal right to be imprisoned in the facilities of their 'declared gender'.
>>2252458Can't he be reined in by the wrangler-in-chief? There are narc people out there who just love making everything about themselves and turn groups into their personal circlejerks - the staff should know better.
>>2252509Or just approach it from a professional standpoint - everybody should get equal time to talk about their problems without interruption and derailing.
No. 2253781
>>2253224>[women] feel the need to be radicalized but don't have the experience and information to pinpoint the true source of their sufferingThat shit is so so SO insulting. At this point any libfem who doesn't flinch reading stuff like that has had her brain too fried to be saved. Imagine claiming that women who (rightfully) think that being born female is the root of their suffering at the hands of males are just lacking experience and information. Then whining about muh white feminism on top of that. Bitch you're the one who hasn't stopped to think even one second about non-western countries. On what basis do you think women are discriminated against from birth and married off as children? You're crying about your labels and identities on tumblr ffs. You
cannot make any other movement look more self and US centric than your own.
>>2252819>>2252752Not sure where to ask this but where can we find actual 4B communities online? or even just social media accounts? I'd love to be able to follow a bunch of like-minded women on mainstream social media like insta but it seems impossible
No. 2253888
>>2253761>Does she truly believe that they're female brained or is she just being nice?I think she thinks they have "female coded" brains. She understands they're biologically male, but that they have gender dysphoria which makes them have "female coded" brains so they're trutrans and the transition is the only cure. She'd agree with every single point I make against trans, but still turn around and go "and think of the poor real transwomen getting lumped in with these degenerate AGPS". I'm scared it will alienate her if I straight up go "um actually they're equally bad". She knows who Blair White is so I think that's the cohort of troons she's thinking of.
I've brought up pretty much every thing you can think of: the homophobia, transing gay away, autism overlap, fetishes, misogyny, opportunistic surgeons, untrue stats like 42%, detrans rates, abused kids… and she agrees! And then still goes "but REAL trans people…" I just don't know how to make that last part click for her! I think perhaps what she needs is for some famous troon she (presumably) watches like Blaire to come out and detrans while explaining they've always been men and trutrans was never real.
No. 2254055
>>2254034>how a person becomes so obsessed with their body and sexuality- OCD
- AGP
- being a narc
- autism and the love of categorisation that comes with it
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God forbid women have friend groups that don’t include men.
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Maybe trump getting elected was a good thing if these freaks join the 41 percent. But they’ll probably just go back into boymode
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>>2254230What gets me is that it's not even that trannies are
just mentally ill and think they're in the "wrong bodies". Trannies seem to regularly be horrible and dangerous people that need to be isolated from society. Like, holy shit. A coworker told me all these horrible things about what her "sister" got into and what her "sister" would do to her and their mom. Then, the coworker tells me that her "sister" is trans. Suddenly, the drug addiction and perpetration of domestic violence makes sense. When she basically told me that her "sister" was actually a male, it all started making sense.
No. 2254281
>>2253224>cis women terfs are going to try and recruit you>recruitFUCKING KEKKK
>all men are your violent oppressorsBut that's the truth, Tiffany.
>divine feminineWe don't talk about that libfem nonsense.
No. 2254293
>>2254163Or maybe they don't want males in their group because men and women are different, male trannies are porn-obsessed freaks without fail, and women with similar interests stick together, and even female gendies subconsciously pick up on that despite trying to force themselves to accept porn-addicted males.
>the group is trying to make itself unsafe for trans womenYeah I'm sure those oversensitive enbies who have never been to a gym in their life are intentionally trying to appear threatening to hulking men, and not trying to protect themselves from members of the sex that is more likely to have rapists and predators, or sticking together because they actually understand each other and have many things in common like any normal group of friends (touch grass tranny)
>there's this fun double standard where trans women are not allowed to discuss the social dynamics of assigned gender>callenging social dynamics assigned gender queer spacesAll this pseudointellectual nonsense just to say that you're offended that women don't want to be around you because you're a fucking creep kekekek
No. 2254305
>>2254281>>divine feminine>We don't talk about that libfem nonsense.Unfortunately there are a lot of idiots on Xitter who call themselves radfems or GCs but believe in that tradfag shit. They make such compelling arguments as
>these girls are just confused because they need to nurture their divine feminine energyor something like that. How is that not the same logic conservative tradfags use and making the problem worse?
No. 2254504
>>2254034It's because the trans movement is a cult that promises cures and betterments to all and every problem a person could possibly have.
Lonely? Trans family and community will always be there for you!
Feeling like you're not one of the cool kids? You can be the most rare person, trans!
Hate your body? It's because your body is wrong, cut it up and take hormones, look how hot you could be (never mind the photoshopping done here!)
Female and hate male sexual advances? It's because you're really a man! And if you transition into the man you're meant to be the harassment will go away!
Male and hate how other men are harassing women? You're clearly not a real man then, you must be a woman too and not an evil cis straight man
Feeling like you want to sexually harass women too but it makes you feel guilty? Don't worry, you're just a transbian and not an evil sexist cis straight guy like them so it's ok when you do it!
Gay and hated for it? No, no, you're just straight and trans
White and feeling guilty about racism? Don't worry you're also oppressed as a trans person so you're not the oppressor anymore
Ugly? Of course you don't fit into cis beauty standards, you are above that because you're a holy trans who can't be judged
Into kids and animals? Don't worry, the trans movement will cover for you!
And remember, everyone else hates you and wants you dead. Only us trans accept you, and we love you. They will drive you to kill yourself. But we can save you. What do you have to lose little egg, when the only other option is that you kill yourself?
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I was watching the video of that faggot Nick Fuentes and found this comment replying to another comment saying "W Nick" and agreeing with him. My tranny radar went off. That profile picture, the she/her pronouns on it's bio and the "NatSoc" in it's username. When it replied to me I realised I was right kek. They're so fucking obvious and they don't even know it. Forget about passing in real life, you can't even pass in a measly youtube comment section, filthy trannoid.
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I like sneaking in the word "self-id" when going crypto in discussions since the first results on google show matter of fact statements that are hard to interpret as "ebil terf propaganda". hopefully trannies dont catch on and do damage control by vandalizing the wiki page
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tl;dr putting trans people in camps… won't include putting trans people in camps??..
if you know you're not getting put in camps then stop fucking saying it. there are actual people being tortured in camps right now because newsflash idiot WARS are still a thing. but of course trannies in a first world country have it just as bad as them! trannies have it so bad they can be considered camp prisoners without ever being to a fucking camp! listen and learn, cissoids
No. 2255635
>>2255498Damage control looks like pretending that a man masturbating in a woman's bathroom and uploading it to Reddit will only be arrested for public indecency because he wore a dress in public. Damage control looks a hell of a lot like the freakout the TIMs had when pedos got the death sentence in Florida.
They know their movement is losing support. I can't wait for the tranny ass licking phase to end and all the 'I want to put women through the woodchipper and shit on the remains lololol uwu' posts to have actual consequences.
>>2255503With the backlash from Imane's case, this might actually be implemented. Fingers crossed.
No. 2255673
>>2254507Tbf he’ll probably have a significantly better chance with those guys.
>>2255498They may have been assigned privileged at birth but they identify as oppressed. How dare you question their declared identity? Transpressed people don’t owe you actualgenocidenormativity, bigot.
>>2255510I kept seeing this with criticism of child drag queens, too.
>Oh but you’re fine with child beauty pageants!??No I’m not, those are horrible too. But unlike child drag queens and drag queen story hour, child beauty pageants don’t exist where I live so obviously I’m not going to focus on them. Likewise circumcision of infants is extremely unpopular where I live but FGM is still practiced by certain communities and is also objectively worse.
They’re purely gotchas by people who don’t actually care about the other problem either and just want to shut feminists up.
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>not a mental illness, guys!
No. 2255833
>>2255673Can we add in the gotcha of
>Oh, but you’re okay with cis women getting boob jobs and rhinoplasties to improve their appearance?No, I think that anyone who’s getting plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons should be forced to undergo a psychological evaluation to address the underlying issue of why they hate their body before jumping into an unnecessary surgery, and that cosmetic surgeons are vampires who prey on people’s insecurities.
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jennie hodgers was a poor immigrant who had to dress as a boy to work in an all-male shoe factory, she joined the union army for financial reasons and was placed in a battalion of mostly teenage boys, after the war she still hid her gender for her veteran's pension, she has never been a trans man
No. 2255968
>>2255803TIMs would definitely harvest women's organs if they could
>>2255858Don't let them ruin it for you nonna. I just see their puppygirl shit as entirely separate to any of the cute animals they try to appropriate.
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Total tranny death.
No. 2256068
>>2256058This is "not true" meanwhile the moment you say that asexual people do not exist they always go "well, they face corrective rape!!"
Sexual assault repackaged
No. 2256679
>>2256058kek every male attention whore online has always either been like
>"I'm a girl!!! boyz plz msg me"or
>"RAPE!!!! LOL U MAD?"and literally every single one is born to die alone because no one can stand them.
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lol at this academically renowned troon admitting it in 1994, modern troons clap and cheer
No. 2257016
>>2255967>>2255970>>2256257Even a fictional story like Mulan (not the Disney version) is treated like "she knew she was a man all along", not because she wanted to save her dad while going to war and in fear to be caught and killed by the same army.
TIFs and TRAS ruin everything.
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>>2257016The Disney version of Mulan also attracts TIFs like flies to shit even though the message of the movie is explicitly that women can be just as brave and heroic as men, if not more so. Mulan drops the man disguise the second she doesn’t need it anymore yet they’re still convinced she’s TIF representation. The training montage song especially brings out the brainworms.
>it says to be a man you have to be swift as a coursing river, it doesn’t say you have to have been born with a penis!!1Funnily enough, most TIMs I know who’ve seen the movie hate it and say the scene where the guys from the army dress up as ugly women is transphobic.
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Then why people are so obsessed into "breaking eggs", Jarvis?
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>>2257184>If a tif gets bottom surgery, does the period still come?Ftm bottom surgery typically involves getting a hysterectomy to remove the uterus. A period is the lining of the uterus getting shed and bled out, so they no longer get that.
If the tif (often non-binary, but sometimes a regular tif) chose to keep their female parts, but also add a sausage skin tube "dick" to their crotch above it, they could still possibly get a period from their vagina as normal.
However they likely also take hrt which COULD be making them infertile, but it's not guaranteed. Picrel is an irresponsible ftm who accidentally got pregnant while taking testosterone, which has resulted in her baby seemingly having some developmental issues (she's a terrible mother in many other ways too, but I digress). If a woman takes testosterone regularly she will HAVE to get a hysterectomy within about 4 years as it leads to vaginal atrophy and other complications. If not, she could fucking die.
On a similar note, there are detrans (and likely some who still identify as trans) who have removed their breasts only to then get pregnant and find out their bodies still have milk ducts that produce milk - which is now trapped inside their chests and can't get out because the nipples are typically removed and placed in another location on the chest. Detrans women report this is
incredibly painful. And since it's a new phenomenon there is no medical professional who knows how to deal with it, so they're stuck with this horror without help.
No. 2257554
>>2257505That poor baby. And damn, the mother does not pass even remotely. She might be the most cutesy, baby-faced adult TIF I’ve ever seen and that’s saying something.
I’d never heard of post-mastectomy mastitis but that sounds excruciating. Mastitis is painful enough when the sufferer has functional nipples to expel the milk from but when the inflamed ducts are covered in layers of scar tissue? Body horror. I suppose doctors could puncture the individual ducts through the scar tissue but that would just be asking for further infection. I know a woman whose mastitis was so resistant to other forms of treatment that doctors decided to cauterise the affected milk ducts. Maybe they’ll start doing that as part of TIF mastectomies too, just in case.
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Said by someone who close their eyes at the news of children being abused, TIMS crying gender shit and more because "it doesn't represent the whole collective".
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>>2258591>trans people existing does not harm anyoneI think these people beg to differ.
No. 2258675
>>2257709>"long hair is not an expression of femininity for me"So close to getting it, yet so far.
God it must be so fucking tiring having to justify every single little thing you do, even things that are automatic like the hair that grows on your head. Even if they don't tell anyone just having to do it to yourself must be so exhausting, I can't imagine going "I-it's n-not(!!!) to be feminine!! It makes me feel uhh like a shrekian creature of the dark!! Yes, not Fiona, but Shrek!!! Pink shoes uhh no I'll wear the grey ones, that's more manly I mean enby, don't want people thinking I'm too feminine or anything! But if I do add a pink flower that's because I AM expressing femininity, but only a tiny bit as I'm not a woman and all women only express femininity all the time, I'm just a super special non-binary"
They should just peak, detrans, and stop caring so they can enjoy the world instead.
No. 2258679
>>2258591I have a male
tw/X mutual with a following who very aggressively posts shit like this ALL the time. It's always "trans people have zero negative impact on my life, if you have a problem with them you're just a bigot who should die". Yeah of course you as a man can ignore the harm trans people do to women, children and mentally ill people. And of course it benefits you to throw vulnerable people under the bus to uphold fetishists when they pay your social media salary as long as you keep screaming their political propaganda…
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Why are TIMs and especially TIFs act more stereotypically masculine or feminine respectively? I've never seen a TIF into guns, sports, or vintage computers. TIMs sometimes try to skinwalk stereotypically female interests but always end up dropping them out of boredom. I've never seen a TIM write 100k+ gay slowburn or knit proficiently. Picrel is an adult TIF I found on the LPS subreddit who recommended an e-therapy service that will churn out a letter for a titchop a day after your appointment.
No. 2258886
>>2257505She sounds insufferable. I can't remember her being posted in the TIF threads, we need more cows like her. I feel so bad for her daughter. Being born retarded because of her mom's narcissism, doomed to be treated like a toy because of her mom's hatred of women. I hope she breaks free from her in the future and learns to love herself as she is without feeling like she has to destroy her mind and body for attention from internet strangers.
>>2257565That's dangerous and good on you for working on undoing the damage. Keep working on it, it takes time but you sound like you already made good progress.
No. 2258895
>>2258591"Does nothing negative to your life", meanwhile everyone has to walk on eggshells around these freaks and play along with their delusions otherwise you're a bigot and should be raped and killed. Even excluding all the shit they're pushing onto gnc, mentally ill people and kids, I can't even be in online groups or fandoms anymore without some tranny shitting things up and being a nuisance. Or read medical information about women without some retarded term like "pregnant people". But surely they're "doing nothing negative to my life".
They really want to pretend they're the same as a gay or a black person with this rethoric but it just doesn't work when their movement is literally about forcing others around them to perceive them the same way they do. If a black person was alone on a deserted island they would still be black, you can't say the same for a tranny whose whole existence relies on capitalism and other people's perceptions 24/7. Without asspats, validation and gender roles that are socially enforced, they would have nothing. Their existence relies on being a nuisance to others but they will still hypocritically say shit like this and I'm sick of it.
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>>2258853I'm so tired of seeing that ugly titchop BJD. She did a horrible job painting the head. Thick swaths of acrylic paint on resin(If it's even printed in resin to begin with) is a terrible idea and there's no blushing. I also hate seeing the most cutesy shit ever of a male character with top surgery scars slapped on. Picrel is a Fortnite character kek
No. 2258914
>>2258899So ugly
>>2258903Not those anons but for unfollowing it can be difficult if they ask you why or you have mutual friends, at worst they can even accuse you of being transphobic and try to ostracize you from your groups. Muting though, yeah. I've muted basically every person that ended up trooning out so I don't see their retardation on my timeline
No. 2258922
Is all the cutting off breasts thing caused by porn? If these women weren't exposed to porn where breasts are so fetishized, would they even get the idea that they want to remove a body part to stop being sexualized by disgusting moids?
>>2258902Hopefully it's done by a machine lol that thing is atrocious
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>>2258899Disgusting, as a freelance dollmaker of cotton dolls like this, such nonsense angers me so much. I would've immediately blocked anyone who tried to commission me such crap. I took it up as a hobby because it was mostly Asian women who didn't subscribe to gendershit, is nothing sacred?
>>2258935>>2258922It is possible to hand embroider, but at factories the embroidery is done by embroidery machine (vidrel). However, stitching together the body parts is done by a person using sewing machine. So while some poor Chinese person did have to touch that crap, at least they didn't have to spend top much time on it.
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>>2258955Disturbing how TIFs make titchop scars into a fashion accessory. Same social contagion as self-harm scars. Same demographics too. He/him they/he members of edtwt, shtwt, and MPA are mentally ill but who are they trying to fool? I hate this ideology with a passion
>>2258899OT but can these lazy fucks attempt to make the dolls themselves instead of buying more garbage from China? There's step-by-step instruction books and guides you can copy off of
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>>2257150>Mulan drops the man disguise the second she doesn’t need it anymore yet they’re still convinced she’s TIF representationSpecially in this scene:
>Shan-Yu : The soldier from the mountains… TIFs were "see? He doesn't yell 'a woman destroyed my army?', he's an ally". No shit, Sherlock. Mongol women even went to war if needed. It doesn't make them "men in disguise", it make them female soldiers.
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>>2258981You would think that a cheaper and less drastic option to that "fashion accessory" would be an underboob tattoo, but nah, "boobs bad, must remove to feel like man".
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Context: This was left on a video by a woman talking about her not wanting to date or befriend men again after the elections because she, rightfully so, believes that most men either voted for Trump or are silent fans by not voting/voting third parties. Why is it that these females who would slit your throat open if you even so much as suggest that they are just naturally masculine females still feel the need to barge into spaces that has said absolutely nothing about trans people? I don't get why this idiot can't just detransition and come join us fellow women again if it's so hard to see us congregate and discuss our issues and not participate?
No. 2259660
>>2259046>I s2g, if women are such pussies that you’re afraid to even unfollow someone on social media how the fuck do you ever expect to get literal men kicked out of women’s bathrooms? Chill out, you don't have to be so rude about it. Also, I don't really expect that to happen (or not anytime soon, anyway), and me unfollowing troons on social media with like 100 followers wouldn't really make it happen either. I also don't really consider them my friends, it's more like I have several social groups online and some of them happened to have people who trooned out, they're more like acquaintances to me at best. So it's not that serious to me really, even with non troons or just people I don't talk to that much or like a ton or anything I wouldn't unfollow them unless they did something to me, I just mute them and move on. Good on you for peaking and being open about your views, and sure, ideally I'd be all for speaking up openly but I don't really feel like dealing with all that stress just because some troon acquaintances I barely interact with post dumb shit on the internet, at worst they're a nuisance (not really if I've muted them) and at best they're a source of milk. You could use some more empathy for others and their situations instead of acting like unless everyone acts exactly like you they're a retard troon enabler or something. It's not like I'm going out of my way to lick troon ass by not unfollowing someone on twitter if I barely interact with them otherwise compared to the average handmaiden, so this just comes off as silly and annoying to me. I don't consider anyone on the internet my actual friend outside of a handful of people that aren't troons, so you're really assuming a lot here.
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Today on /r/thatHappened
Sure, buddy.
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>>2255009pretty sure i saw the post youre talking about and wanted to vent about a similar thing. 4b has been getting more steam on tiktok but every single time theres an outspoken misandrist woman who has a large following, she's a tirf. recently discovered that professionalsassatron has an enby brother, captioning posts with "not a man btw" and shit like that and it truly boggles the mind. HOW!!! It is so blackpilling that so many women are cowards and retards. How do you follow along with ts but then suddenly stop as soon as someone suggests that 'changing pronouns doesnt mean you arent a man anymore'
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The repeated misgendering sounds kinda funny to witness but this enby scrote would be SO insufferable to deal with irl. At least you can talk shit about him with your fellow based coworkers though. I would kms if I was management though
No. 2259770
>>2259686if there's enough oppositional pushback against the 4b movement in america then eventually the conservative movement will win and women will be back to living in the 1960s and prev years - nothing but women stuck in
abusive marriages with no way out and where most women of all ages has a man in her life and if you don't, you would be put into a mental hospital to straighten you out. i don't recall which thread this was but a
nonnie talked about where in history, whenever there was a strong sense of gender normative practices where men ruled society and women were the silent subservient class, that troonism was basically nowhere to be found. but when women started gaining rights and became more publicly visible in society, that's when troonism comes through to try to shove women back in. in a trump era, we are probably going to see less and less of troonism as women revert back to being second class citizen.
No. 2259780
>>2258899what a fucking waste of materials and resources. The audacity to act annoyed that the doll "doesnt look right" when you didnt even do the effort to draw a
back view of the doll which is bare minimum for doll designs.
Insufferable and inconsiderate like their shitty ideology, I feel bad for the seamstress who had to cobble this mess with what little reference they had from the shitty procreate mock up only to get their business slandered because an ungrateful tranny couldn't even put an order down right
No. 2259797
>>2258899>gladly i didn't pay extra from this sellerIf I were the seller I would place you in a blacklist for being an insufrable entitled customer.
Besides the "chest scars" looks like shit and more like belly scars.
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>>2259762>elder homeoh boy
No. 2260198
>>2259185I don’t know if calling the hospital like that will help, but you could try to spread word around town about what’s happening so more people are aware of it.
I used to work at a hospital without realising that it was the #1 gender hospital in my country. I did encounter a lot of genderspecial-looking patients on my rounds but it’s a big city, so I figured that was just the state of the world now. Then one day they started renovating large parts of the building which meant everyone had to take different routes and waiting rooms got different temporary locations, and the ‘gender care’ posters directing gender patients to that department stood out like a sore thumb. The posters directing people to the oncology dept, GI dept. etc. were super generic easily readable black text on white printer paper. The gender department posters, on the other hand were large, multicoloured (very expensive to print) and had childlike anime characters on them. And this was the adult wing. The paediatric gender department (ugh I know) was in a different building, so these uwu x3 xD loli/shota posters were aimed at adults. It was unnerving, and a lot of other employees thought it was bizarre but nobody felt comfortable expressing those thoughts because the slightest criticism of gendershit could and would get you fired for ‘creating an unsafe environment’. I’m really glad I don’t work there anymore.
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This made me cackle. I can't believe they admit to being braindead idiots. Of course they don't fucking read. They're too busy destroying their attention spans by mindlessly watching tiktoks and getting all their shitty info from some pedo tranny's tweets kek. They always lose in arguments and counter by screeching about evil terfs are
No. 2260623
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amazing how everything he said is wrong and can be easily disproven by simply looking at reality (underage trannies getting hrt sent to them by adults, that one surgeon doing titchops on kids on tiktok, detransitioners talking about their underdeveloped genitalia due to puberty blockers, etc etc you all know it already)
No. 2260702
>>2260623Jazz Jennings got his micropenis inverted on national television when he was 17. I don’t know his timeline by heart but it wouldn’t surprise me if he started HRT before age 16, either.
Anyway
>literally nobody is transing kids!>okay well let’s ban it just to be sure>NO HOW DARE YOU No. 2260722
>>2260623Why do people say this when TIFs often openly have a mastectomy as teenagers? And start T? And TIMs can easily get estrogen online?
>HRT is only available to teens 16-17Not true. Therapy is usually just virtual appointments for a letter. Plus teens are minors? Plus their own ideology wants to remove all guardrails to have people "medically transition" as easily as possible?
If something isn't happening, then why freak out over banning it?
No. 2260814
fiona apple was right. there is no hope for women.
No. 2260826
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94yo co-founder of La Leche League steps down because of a new focus on including men in the mission of the group. I searched but didn't see this posted anywhere. The pic is not the best resolution but I couldn't locate a better one.
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I was reading picrel on Internet Archive. It’s a collection of works about how women have been harmed by TiMs and feel pressured into remaining silent due to fear of being labeled transphobic. Except today when I checked I get a page informing me it was removed, either because the uploader took it down or it violated Terms of Service. I don’t believe there is a way to confirm the reason for its removal, but if it was due to being transphobic I am going to be so mad.
No. 2260913
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>>2252408TRANSLATION: WHO THE F
CK ALLOWED YOU TO SPEAK,TERF? YOU PLACE IS IN THE FCKIN JAIL AND WE WILL VIOLATE YOU!
No. 2260973
>>2260814i'm not taking advice from someone who says uhhhhh and ummmm every other sentence
>i'm giving you some dogwhistles you can look out for so you don't engage with that contentgod forbid you engage with something that might threaten your beliefs. god forbid you encounter anything contrary to your ideas and dare to analyze it using critical thinking and decide for yourself whether you agree or not. don't ummm interact with these evil radfem terves and ummm stay uh safe guyss yeahh ummm!! xoxo
No. 2260975
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>>2260814don't worry nona, she is a true feminist hero who has done so much to help other women, such as… waiting for 5 minutes when her neighbor is yelling at his wife or something? we are saved
No. 2260983
>>2260973She claims to hate the gender binary in another video, but her whole worldview and frame of thinking is broken into a "good/bad" binary. Trannies = good, TERFs = bad, etc.
>>2260975Such a feminist savior. Whatever would we do without her activism?
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>>2260884I don't want you to be right but I believe you are. The only other explanation is if the publisher requested for it to be taken down. I cobbled together the screenshots I took of one story from the anthology, picrel. I hope a new pdf becomes available again.
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>>2260913>communistAlways gets me. Enjoy being in the Gulag.
No. 2261184
>>2260623I literally saw a documentary on ABC that featured an 11 year old being given puberty blockers and testosterone, but ok.
>>2260814She is actually fucking stupid, holy shit. What do you mean talking too much about female genital mutilation is a bad thing? Absolutely retarded as fuck, how can she think the feelings of a disgusting man matter more than a little girl has her genitals altered because she lives in a society that is afraid of little girls potentially being whores? She talks about how women who were excited about Harris were isolating women who live in the global south, but how is shunning women who talk about genital mutilation not doing just that, but in the most egregious manner possible? Almost every woman I've seen talk about female genital mutilation has been a black woman and any white woman I've seen bringing it up is usually just sharing articles about the experiences of said black women and letting them do the talking. The experiences that women of colour face at the hands of misogyny are always based on "bio essentialism", you can't bring them into the conversation with addressing it and accepting the reality of human biology. When i see people talking about white feminism, this is the type of dumb bitch that pops in my mind. She literally wants women to stop liking and discussing anything that's mean to troons or challenges anyone in any kind of way. She actually makes me furious and want to a-log, holy shit i cannot take this level of retardation. I bet she thinks we can't talk about what's going on in Afghanistan because it's disrespectful to non-binary people. She unironically linked being excited about having a biracial woman president to perpetuating fascism, i CANNOT with these bitches. They are reaching so fucking hard because they are fucking retarded and needs to bend logic to seem more enlightened than they actually are whilst not hurting moids fee fees, when all they are doing is spreading stupidity.
No. 2261218
>>2260814This has fully convinced me that gender ideology is a psyop to dismantle any real feminist action. It’s been wild seeing so many women speak so positively about 4B and openly shit on men without a million qualifiers, even in normie spaces. I thought that the one silver lining of the US election is that many women have woken up to how much men hate them. And of course, like clockwork, I’m starting to see the criticism rolling in from libfems about how the 4B movement is actually super
problematic and Korean feminists are really terfy and extreme. So fucking annoying. We get one step closer to class consciousness and trannies have to make it all about themselves. On the bright side, I’ve also seen a lot more pro trans sentiments get downvoted in feminist spaces on Reddit. A wave of upvotes will bring them back up after a while, but they start off in the negative and often stay low. One tim was even complaining about how he noticed it and it bothered him lol.
Also this girl has the same photobooth twirl cashew face as Dasha. Love that for her. Must be some kind of weird physical manifestation of pickmeism
No. 2261314
>>2261184>>2261218both of you explained exactly how i've been feeling since i posted that video. i was actually super excited to see so many normie american women
terf the fuck out and are finally realizing the weight of how misogynistic men really are on the inside, and i get giddy when i see straight women talk about creating women-only spaces to get away from men further. but of course fucktards like that woman and her troon friends have to swoop in at the last second to wreck everything. like i said before, she should just join the GOP if men and dick are so fucking important to her. conservatards love troons so i don't understand why she's pretending to be some marxist commie gorl power stereotype since she clearly doesn't care about women in all honesty.
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>>2261218>Also this girl has the same photobooth twirl cashew face as Dasha. Love that for her. Must be some kind of weird physical manifestation of pickmeismShe has a very asymmetrical face. I’m curious if she has hemifacial microsomia it’s that severe. Anyways, I tried to find more pictures of her and ended up finding her Reddit account. Nothing much there but she claims to have BPD.
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>>2260814>Fiona Apple was rightWhat you said made me look up what you were talking about. Fiona is a fucking genius. The more I learn about her, the angrier I get at the way media treated her. She deserves to be recognized as a genius, but because she's a woman, she was called crazy instead. She deserved so much better.
Source:
https://www.spin.com/featured/fiona-apple-tidal-november-1997-cover-story-girl-trouble/ No. 2261566
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>Birthing parent
I hate working in tech.
This is from OpenAI (not surprised since their CEO is autistic as fuck and I imagine is getting part of his funding from the likes of Blackstone)
No. 2261588
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>>2261566https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/this-is-what-family-looks-like-for-us-a-trans-mans-pregnancy-journey-in-aotearoa/THNC76Z2ZJPORPW76JZQ3RFTCY/They want you to believe that 'trans men' birthing on tv is normal even though this is clearly an once in a blue moon situation (sorry for shit video, it's what I could find)
No. 2261727
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>>2260828>>2260884>>2261135>>2261589Here it is re-uploaded, I recommend everyone to download the PDF in case it goes missing again
https://archive.org/details/kitty-robinson-you-told-me-you-were-different-an-anthology-of-harm-ugly-truths-pAnd you can also buy the original book from the collective for as cheap as 6 bucks
https://store.ugly-truths.com/ No. 2261732
>>2261184I felt your rant. The myth of 'white feminism' is simply leftist/non-white women's version of 'foreign men are awful, unlike my angelic white christian husband'. It's always about defending their men, and their men only, because most violence and control of women occurs within your ethnicity or religion (with some exceptions like sexual harrassment). Feminists are offensive to these women because they question the power and actions of men from their ethnicity and religious background. They can't lie about their men being generally lovely because anyone with an IQ over 60 can see just how horrible these societies are for girls and women. It's really a show of tribal loyalty, hence why they're happy to shit on white men but anything that even comes close to touching their moids is Hitlerian
TERF homophobe colonialism. They're anti feminists, so there's no hope to lose with them
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They’re so fucking homophobic
No. 2261797
>>2261756i'd rather be called a traitor than a rapist. trying to coerce someone into having sex with you when they're not even attracted to the genitals you posses is reprehensible behavior yet by calling it transphobia they're able to portray themselves as
victims of anyone who refuses to give them sex
No. 2261835
>>2261592When women are mothers it’s boring and lame, but when ‘men’ are ‘birthing parents’ it’s cool and subversive. It’s the same reason some TIFs are suddenly comfortable with wearing makeup/skirts/the colour pink again after declaring themselves nonwomen.
>>2261675Ngl every time TRAs turn on each other and eat their own I think of Artemis and Actaeon. Unfortunately it doesn’t happen to TIMs nearly as often as they deserve.
>>2261733Women with elevated testosterone from PCOS don’t reach even close to the levels that TIFs inject themselves with.
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>>2261727Anon thank you so much!
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This was a comment about a TRA post being removed on a lesbian sub. Because gay women wanting our own spaces away from men is somehow equivalent to nazis at a bar. I can’t take it anymore nonnas.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LesbianActually/s/vb2DwfZHce No. 2261872
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>>2261867The comment was comparing “cryptoterfs” to nazis, sorry for the lack of context. It wasn’t comparing nazis to TRAs. Here are the previous comments.
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Is this why 'puppygirls' with age dysphoria are so common? I wouldn't be surprised if the next trend was turning physical disability into a desirable sexual trait
Another bit, still from this book (Masochism and the Self):
>despite the lingerie and makeup, the male transvestite masochists remained masculine masochists
>on two of three measures, the transvestite male masochists were farther away from female masochists than the other male masochists were
Kek
No. 2261914
>>2261850It's that specific kind of bigotry which everyone who misuses the term "intersectionality" is riddled with.
>Straight men murdering gays and troons in several countries and getting away with it? Meh, whatever, it's a shame but it's nothing new, at least it wasn't me!>WHAT?! Some gays/women aren't mindlessly praising me for existing?! But I have GRACED THEM with my PRESENCE and ACTIVISM! How dare they not elect me as their spokesperson!! Fucking traitors!! They're supposed to coddle me for being just as oppressed as them!!They also love to pull this gaslighting bullshit on ethnic minorities, hence why the average tranny is racist.
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>Is an ep about a TIM joining the female-only volleyball team.Good. Way to tell little girls to leave their dreams or teams aside for boys who cannot win against other moids.
https://archive.org/details/na-the-gatekeeper No. 2263025
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>>2262890>>2263016Holy shit, for a cartoon telling girls "you can be strong and beautiful and smart", this feels like a big slap with "moids dressing as women are
valid like you. Shut up and listen to them only".
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>taking the Mary sue test for the lulz
>Immediately cringe at the way everything is worded
>"Something's very off, I can feel it"
>Check "about me"
>Picrel
Kek so a woman? I knew it kek. You're into RP, fanfiction, Star Trek and are desperately "socially conscious" and "mindful of how your words affect others"?? FEMALE, cut the bullshit, "enbi person" my ass. Nothing wrong with these qualities, I just find it so ridiculous to pretend to be a genderless being when she shares so many traits with other nerdy women
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>>2263091Lmao she changed the pronouns on the questions from "their" to "xir" (the Alexandria's Genesis point is funny too, you can tell this was made by and for Tumblrinas)
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>>2263110"Trans girls competing with other girls because they're mediocre moids is a myth!".
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>>2261756Now Why is it worse to be transphobic than homophobic? Hmmmm
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>>2263433I've been wary of bluesky because for the past few years, the userbase has been at least 80% TiMs making it into their own little jerkoff puppygirl incest drama bubble, because twitter got too hateful and dangerous for them to post that stuff there. They've actually started raging a bit because normal people are ruining their fun.
Not sure how much you can say about gender before you get outright banned, but a UK barrister/the head of sex matters has all her posts labeled as "intolerance" by default, by the bluesky mod team.
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>>2262513I wonder if they pulled the episode because they didn't want to draw attention to the current news about the San Jose State women's volleyball lawsuit. A bunch of players are suing the school, the head coach, and the athletic conference that organizes the volleyball games for violating Title IX by letting a male player on their team. Opposing teams keep forfeiting games rather than play against a male. It's pretty much the big trans sports controversy in the US right now, so the episode could've added fuel to the fire, and I don't think Disney wants to be in the middle of that.
No. 2263760
>>2263621I believe the target audience is still girls and women, but this time targeting the particular crowd who believe if a MAN is doing something it MUST be empowering. I've seen "pole fitness" ads using the same gimmick of "we have MALE pole dancers so YES it IS empowering!" but in reality the target audience of the makeup ad is still women in order to drain them of their reduced paycheck because they're told if they look youthful and please everyone by looking good with [makeup product] then everyone will like them and respect them despite that never happening throughout the history of the entire world. I trained as a MUA and beauty therapist waxing clients, performing manicures, pedicures, and applying facial treatments with masks and massages, and not a single client within those 2 years I had was male kek. Back when I trained I was in the kpop fandom and a lot of girls I was in mutuals with on twitter/tumblr would buy the sponsored clothes and makeup of male idols (designer clothes, high end makeup, imported korean skincare) because it was men they found attractive wearing and using them. Honestly if these makeup companies REALLY wanted to sell their shit, they'd make male models apply their products and not bearded dead eyed moids.
It's basically selling the fantasy that "Makeup IS gender neutral!!1! Which is why, ladies and enbies, you should buy our empowering gender neutral products just like the superior men do!1!!" When in reality I have lived the proof that noooo male is investing in that shit kekkkk. Actually after I finished training I quit and never wore makeup again, it's such a waste of time and energy. It was the equivalent of studying the bible back to back and then leaving the church shortly after kek.
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I know I said this in the last thread, but I really do think that Democrat's recent losses are what's going to spur them to drop the most controversial parts of the trans agenda and overall usher in a mass peaking (or, rather, accelerate the peaking that is already occurring). The New York Times published this opinion piece on the topic just a few days ago:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/opinion/trump-democrats-transgender.htmlUse the archive link if you can't get past the paywall. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't imagine a left-leaning newspaper like the NYT would let a columnist call for trans "common sense" like this even a few years ago; clearly, the "most oppressed group" label is starting to fade even among the most well-meaning liberals. The tide is turning for real.
>In my reporting, I’ve spoken with many parents of gender-dysphoric kids, overwhelmingly liberal and Democrat, who told me they felt betrayed by Democrats and by the Biden administration on this issue. They resent being labeled “anti-trans” for questioning whether it’s right to simply accept what their children say about their gender, especially since those children often suffer from other mental health issues.>This is not because Americans are “uncomfortable” with the existence of transgender people or need to get with the program. About 44 percent of Americans already know someone who is transgender. Indeed, polls show that people have become less supportive of progressive ideas about gender identity as they have become more widely publicized and understood. According to Pew, 60 percent of Americans in 2022 said gender is determined by the sex at birth, up from 54 percent in 2017. Democrats’ opposition to allowing trans girls and women to compete in women’s sports increased to 48 percent in 2023, from 41 percent in 2021, according to Gallup, while independent voters’ opposition increased to 67 percent from 63 percent.>“Democrats spend way too much time trying not to offend anyone rather than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face,” Seth Moulton, a Democratic representative from Massachusetts, told The Times last week. “I have two little girls; I don’t want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete, but as a Democrat I’m supposed to be afraid to say that.” No. 2263816
I had a stupid dream where I was on LCF and someone posted about or linked another imageboard with some drama. So I went to that imageboard to check it out and it was full of trannies.
I replied to a troon that kept talking about technology that will supposedly make it possible to turn into a female, absolutely delusional. I asked him why he keeps chasing a "goal" that he knows full well is impossible to reach, and told him to just accept that he'll never be a woman, and turning into the opposite sex is impossible. But a tranny in real life would never, ever give an honest, straightforward answer to this unless he was just starting to transition or was one of those self-aware AGPs.
>>2263768>On Transgender Issues, Voters Want Common SenseWooow you don't say.
>>2263760NTAYRT but thank you for your input. Very interesting indeed. No male that isn't gay or whose livelihood literally depends on his attractiveness (male idols and models) would even think about investing in his physical appearance to look prettier, as males aren't conditioned from birth to do so. Regular straight men could do that, for a change, but of course they don't give a fuck, and deep down they, including the moids being used to advertise these things, probably realize that makeup and other female-exclusive products and beauty standards (pole dancing, lingerie, etc.) aren't made with women's best interest in mind, but men's, so there's no way in hell they'd ever believe it's actually empowering. Straight troons just make this more obvious.
>>2263621It sounds like a psyop tbh. Both in the way it's trying to convince women that there's nothing sexist about it, and that it's trying to target AGP males as a secondary target demographic without pissing their main demographic off.
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Nonnas…
No. 2264279
>>2263433Basic research would tell you to pre-emptively avoid it, because it will get nasty:
>Treat others with respect. For example, no:>Harassment or abuse directed at a specific person or group, including but not limited to, sexual harassment and gender identity-based harassment>Promoting hate or extremist conduct that targets people or groups based on their race, gender, religion, ethnicity, nationality, disability, or sexual orientationhttps://bsky.social/about/support/community-guidelinesIn other words, you're safer from the thought police on Twitter.
No. 2264657
>>2263621I get it for skincare, it's expanding to target men with 'manly' marketing. Makeup ads for men though..? It's probably put out by out-of-touch libfem marketing graduates who think men in a tutu is revolutionary. They're not thinking about haggard AGP moids, they believe that it's so inclusive and wonderful that men get to wear makeup too, which includes troons (because even their handmaidens know they're men after all)
>>2263833>Let TiMs own the runway looking anorexic and haggard while real women move past it. I agree but sadly we're seeing famine-tier anorexic models walking alongside normal weight models and male models in feminine clothing. It feels like it's gotten worse since the 2000s, they've injected 'diversity' by putting old/chubby/gay male models here and there but it doesn't cancel out the absolute state of thin models these days.
>>2264646Thanks nona!
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No. 2265657
>>2259762>I work at an elderly care homeJesus
Christ. Imagine being Edith and Albert, 89, and some moid wearing a shirt that says "THEY/THEM GANGBANGED UR MOM" strides in to wipe your ass.
No. 2265671
>>2260814Of all things, she picks…talking about FGM to whine about? I can just tell this woman is extremely fucking racist no matter how much time she's spent ~unlearning her upbringing~ and thinks black women (because if she's hearing soooo much about this subject then she's obviously heard multiple black women's stories) should just quiet down because it makes her and her precious white men uncomfortable. Or she's actually done no research whatsoever and just picked an exclusively female issue to patronise about for essentially the same reason. Btw, isn't it a coincidence how
every single woman like this always has a sob story about how they were raised super conservative?
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>>2265587It will never cease to amuse me that faggots and trannies genuinely think they're more attractive than women. He had to draw a little shota femboy to win that competition in his fat and aged forehead. KEK
No. 2265762
>>2265136They genuinely are less of a menace than real moids though. They're assholes and cultists, yes, but they're far less likely to commit a violent crime than a male.
TIMs only pretend TIFs are as dangerous as real men because it allows them to pretend that they're as inoffensive as real women. No TIM is actually scared of a TIF.
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Kekkkk
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>>2263131He's 18, and he notes in the article from an interview how he's "suddenly" been vastly improving his speed lately, which has surprised him.
Hm, almost as if boys start actually hitting puberty and growing large/larger amounts of muscle/even sprouting chest hair around that exact same time.
I remember boys all starting to get big after senior year. What an interesting time to suddenly gain a significant physical advantage, around the final year of high school where these kinds of physical competitions matter the most for getting into an ideal college. How harrowing
No. 2266226
>>2266128Original post asked for detrans perspective, which I am not. But I do want to add on to this nonna's reply
I look around tranny socmed accounts for milk, with tumblr being the easiest to access. (I could probably make some threads, but I don't want to be put out to pasture for shit ops kek)
There is extreme backlash against terms like "transandrophobia" because it "centers AFAB experiences over that of [TIMs]". The prevailing attitude is that transmisogyny should be focused on above all else, and talking about female hardship "takes away" from male problems. You saw TIFs parading themselves as good little men who knew how to decenter themselves for the benefit of their trans sisters KEK. Blocklists for "transandrophobia truthers" still get passed around. I've seen people peak off of this drama alone
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>>2265886i don't understand his logic. if trans women are women (kek no), then a so called cis woman could enjoy her womanhood and it wouldn't be such a big deal to trans women since they are on the same team, right?
right?
No. 2266289
>>2265978desisted nona. Yes, it was. something that is widely known but not spoken out loud is that everyone knows exactly who the women and the men are and the rest is just layers of denial to pretend the obvious isn't there. If you're not completely retarded, eventually the cognitive dissonance gets under your skin. It also depends on the type of tranny you were. fujotifs are the most obnoxious and cope the hardest and tend to take the most time to get fed up (and often are in a group of all tifs which makes the surveillance even tighter), gnc autist-to-trans pipeliners tend to adopt a not like other trannies attitude and if you're one of those and smart, eventually it clicks into place you're doing advanced NLOGism and you stop.
It's all verbal, vapid virtue signaling. A lot of the fujotif type, who already had primarily female social groups and probably trooned out with their friends all at the same time, would never really treat a tim as an equal, nor would he be interested in being around a group of all girls. tifs and tims cluster together with their own ilk with very little overlap, and tifs pay lip service and surveil each other until either they grow up, end up splintering over minor disagreements on any one cause du jour, or the abuse becomes impossible to ignore so they peak, usually by means of a tim boyfriend (an experience common enough there's an entire book about it). Tims are an imaginary oppressed concept to be united with your own group defending them and the unpleasant reality breaks a lot of people eventually.
There is at least one term to speak of it now, transandrophobia. I wanna think this means they're becoming self aware, but often, they're not. They drop the fight at the lightest pushback. If you already have an assertive temperament it becomes fucking insufferable to see these pusillanimous women roll over at anything, and you usually desist and
terf out. kek
No. 2266565
How have other nonnas here dealt with creating lives in alignment with their values re: gender ideology? Most of the people I know, in my general "queer" social milieu, are trans/nonbinary and/or brainwashed, to the point of believing in some of the more obscure religious beliefs about trans, including ideas about god-given gendered souls, how there are "no differences" between female and male bodies, and the beauty of the mutilated body. I had (or struggled to have) similar beliefs. I was a they/them, but have slowly desisted over the years as the logical inconsistencies of gender ideology added up. I only recently fully peaked and stopped trying to "just make it all make sense". Is the only solution just to be open about my views, and let myself get kicked aside? How do I make new friends when living in a liberal U.S. city, where this stuff is everywhere? I know a popular choice for many is just to keep their views private. However, I would like to take responsibility for myself. Has anyone else been a similar situation?
No. 2266615
>>2266565What
>>2266597 said. But this is where you must have courage, and grab hold of your tism to prevent it from sabotaging you. Every time you feel that you must be "true" and "responsible", remember that many women have been fired, harassed, assaulted, stalked, and blacklisted for expressing even the most normal and inoffensive opinions. Even when you agree with a troon, he will find a reason to attack you, because he is insecure and his life revolves around misogyny.
Join some groups, take the classes. Don't think about gender retardation. If the topic comes up, say you don't understand it and don't care in the blandest way you can. Emulate boomer zen and move on from it. People will filter themselves into and out of your life accordingly.
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>>2266852
Go be retarded somewhere else troon. Posting pics of women and saying they're trannies is peak cope.
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lol, I guess the god who wants people to sacrifice the blood of other would fully support troons
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No. 2267054
>>2267051Is your friend a male or a female? Have they ever had sex with said troon? What is she it he being accused of?
If the friend group is full of gendies there’s nothing you can do, they still suck TIM’s cocks even when they do the raping, so imagine if they’re whining about being the
victim kek.
No. 2267056
>>2267054If it’s a male I’d suggest him to troon out for a couple of months kek, troon on troon crime always ends up being pushed under the carpet.
If she’s a female goddamn, too bad, they already see her as a “”TME” kek.
No. 2267068
>>2266565>Is the only solution just to be open about my views, and let myself get kicked aside? I did this personally (once I peaked I became open about my views on social media) and a lot of people did unfriend me (I haven’t talked to them since). Plenty of people didn’t unfriend me, either because they’re not online enough to be reading my posts all the time, or because they agree with me ig, so I focused on spending more time reaching out and hanging out with them.
>How do I make new friends when living in a liberal U.S. city, where this stuff is everywhere? Join groups that don’t have the word “queer” in the name. Join groups for art, or a sport, or an activity, and make an effort to talk to the people in the group who don’t have blue hair and a septum piercing. Also, early on as you’re taking to them, try making an off-color, non-PC joke, like “I identify as an attack helicopter” or “lol I don’t know what any of those woke terms mean” and see how they react. Or show up to the group wearing a Harry Potter t-shirt (I literally do this even though I’m lukewarm about the books).
No. 2267431
>>2267000kek I wonder why the standard TIF is name is something cutesy like Ash or Ollie or Bean while TIM troons name themselves stripper names
>>2266862They want to exist without being sexualized and feel like a person instead of just "the girl". FujoTIFs want to self-insert into yaoi instead of feeling guilt for being a straight [white] woman.
>>2266565I don't ever bring up gender stuff but refuse to play pronouns or recite TWAW. I'm not going to contribute to this mess anymore. Please join a normie hiking group or pickleball group or something. If some handmaiden or TIF asks for pronouns, just say you're a woman but you don't care how other people refer to you. If someone (online) gives you shit for not virtue-signaling, make sure to double down and stand your ground and state that you aren't here to discuss politics. TIFs especially are meek and will back down from direct social confrontation.
No. 2268016
>>2267927nonna, there's nothing feminine than a woman, period.
There are various ways to express femininity but men cannot since they are not women.
We should also stop calling faggots "effeminate" because they cannot be effemminate, they're not woman. Only women own those terms. Feminine men don't exist, it's an oxymoron.
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I can't believe I finally realized this, I feel so slow.
The reason why so many middle schoolers or younger people latch onto modern gendie shit is because it's fundamental concepts are compatible with that stage of human development. When a young person is in a stage of their life trying to develop an identity that's unrelated to their family, it's no wonder they want to opt to troon out. Gendieism is so rooted in this constant never-ending focus on the self, putting your selfish desires on a pedestal, that's so easy to access through consumption, and can be the physical manifestation of developing a new identity detached from your own life through plasic surgery. So many autistic people or people who are generally developmentally behind, so many pedos who pretend to be little kids, so many retards who were denied a typical social upbringing. They choose gendieism because they're all developmentally behind trying to forge a new identity through the most childish ways possible; never by actually growing up, but by never ending consooming. Gendieism has only exploded in popularity because of the new age of kids not having a social upbringing and having less friends because of social media. I know other factors are also included (misogyny, homophobia, porn addiction) but I don't think I've seen this specific aspect discussed.
No. 2268137
>>2268089I read some radfem comment on some website that said something like “In the 80s, angsty teenagers would piss off their parents by listening to punk rock, modifying their bodies with Black Flag tattoos, and experimenting with drugs like heroin and cocaine. Now the teenagers are listening to trans influencers on Tiktok, modifying their bodies with SRS, and the drugs they use are estrogen and testosterone.” Same shit, different decades.
The only difference is that in the 80s there weren’t DEI workshops in schools and workplaces trying to “normalize” the punk rock lifestyle and mandate that you respect people’s punk identity. And it’s easier to cover up a shitty band tattoo than to regrow your boobs or penis.
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>>2266915reminds me of this shitty comic, as well as the indigenous third-genders she mentioned
>The "third gender" term from Hawaia, Māhū, is a male to female identification used by (primarily homosexual) males who teach hula (they were allowed to perform in some temples that women weren't), and were known to "always be available for sexual conquest by men"; It is a role for gay men who act as performers and sex objects for other men>The "third gender" term from central america, muxe, is a male to female identification used by (primarily homosexual) males who dress in "female" clothes or otherwise behave "like women". They do jobs associated with females. It is a role for homosexual and GNC males.>The "third gender" used in Samoa, fa'afafine, is supposedly an identification used by males to signal "being between male and female", but the term itself means "in the manner of woman". So, once again, it is a male to female identity. Fa'afafine are known to do housework, care for families, and only having homosexual sex (sex with other men). It is a role for homosexual males. No. 2268569
>>2268490Exactly. It’s all rooted in misogyny. The roles for gnc gay men were invented because men can’t tolerate other men performing woman-like societal and sexual roles and thereby soiling the superior Man category. Note how the gay/bi men who fuck these men aren’t considered non-men. It’s being penetrated that’s considered degrading.
The roles for women were invented because men designed their societies so that women cannot participate in society without men, and families without sons therefore need to create a pseudo-man proxy that allows them to handle money and sign contracts. Note that these women are not allowed to marry and are stripped of all their privileges once a man enters the picture. Their privileges are a necessary, temporary facade, and nothing more.
No. 2268671
>>2268467It's ironic that all examples she listed are male while she's a woman herself
>>2268490yeah exactly what I thought too
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Kek
No. 2268854
>>2268064love this. i think the fact that millennials that had to deal with helicopter parents who tried to cut our social lives down in the name of safety also fucked us over and the next generations as well; we never had to learn how to deal with social setbacks like trying to fit in properly, or how to deal with being the new kid on the block, or how to participate in a community that doesn't have to do with dressing a certain way or listening to a genre of music, or how to deal with bullying with healthy assertiveness, etc, it all went to the parents and teachers and other adults that are also dealing with their own issues to then step in and make everything worse instead of better. labels do not help us find ourselves, if anything, it hinders us and limits us and our potential as we get into our adulthood years.
i feel this could be remedied by much stronger communities and caring for children's and teenager's social development, but that would require adults getting over themselves and quit with the whole "well i never got to enjoy that in my youth so now you younger people can't have it".
No. 2268880
>>2268870Yeah, I remember one of my (moid) college professors saying something like
>And they can't even get jobs while looking like erect crossdressers! So they have no other choice but to prostitute themselves… Poor souls. Kek are you kidding me? Do you know the amount of women who hate shaving, high heels, make up, etc but have to compromise to these sexist double standards to even get a decent job? And moids can't even handle not living out their sissy diaper fetish during their work hours??? Get a fucking grip.
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Got vid on the left in my recommended. It's actually a man who thinks he's a woman. It's incredible how degenerate men get the stunning and brave treatment for trooning out.
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so apparently there's a new text message going through the phones of gay, lesbian, and bi people that they will be rounded up and sent to a 're-education camp' aka conversion therapy and of course the trannies are seething because the T wasn't mentioned in the text. they're now wringing their wrists crying and wondering if this means that trans people will just be automatically killed off instead, despite zero evidence that a trans genocide is going to happen or if it's even under trump's plan once he's sworn in. i swear to god these people have the worst victim complex ever and love having persecution fantasies even though most people refuse to physically come near them in the first place. they really saw something that is hateful towards same sex attracted people and go "okay but what about me?" scum.
No. 2269192
>>2269154Although a tinfoil i feel like maybe the
sharty may be behind it 4chan has gotten way too mellow to pull a stunt like this anymore
No. 2269532
>>2269481Yeah, how the fuck is that thread even allowed on this site?
>>2269491They want to be quirky and oppressed. I bet they've never even been called faggot in their whole life and if they were, they'd probably enjoy it because muh gender euphoria kek. The only fag I know is my brother and he thinks those tattooes are retarded as fuck.
No. 2269597
>>2269481Have you tried asking this in the complaints and suggestions thread?
>>>/meta/85300It sounds like a reasonable request to me
>>2269491This is the paradox of the tif. They know they're using a slur that they "shouldn't be" because they are female. However, they get a pass bc "trans men are real men" or whatever. To use your example, it would be like a white guy getting away with saying "the n-word with a hard r", and getting asspats for it. There's a thrill to it for them.
To answer your 2nd question: the gay moids around me use it as an insult, or derisively towards themselves. Other nonas might have different experiences.
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lol no.
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from a tiktok vid of a girl cutting her hair into a mullet after watching i saw the tv glow… ever since peaking and recontextualising the gendie movement as a cult i can't help but see it in all the comments
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>Mourn the dead trans people
>If you're a bigot, die.
No. 2270129
>>2269001Does he actually, or is he an intersex fetishist-faker like other trannies?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254365507_Pretense_of_a_Paradox_Factitious_Intersex_Conditions_on_the_Internet>>2269006She's dropped the ball on a few videos. In her Wonder Bread Guy video she didn't challenge him on what he said in his Kiwifarms thread.
No. 2270320
>>2269630Good. Seeing Tim McBride cry about it has been nice. Dude thought because he got a pity win as the first tranny into Congress, he could just barge his way into the women's. We have to enact laws now to stop men from entering our spaces now. It's wild to me that this is something we have to do.
Also, my mother is so…milquetoast Dem normie. She's like 'I didn't even know McBride was born a man! She looks like some women I've known!' And I'm like. Seriously? He doesn't look like a woman even with a wig and I had to sincerely ask her 'okay so, that's what being a woman is? Just, you kinda look like one so you are?' She just seems to think that TIMs are harmless because one time she met a nice old tranny (one of the first in Hollywood or something) and because he was a nice old geriatric man for a few hours of meeting him, that absolves the fact disgusting fetishists are trying to hijack our gender, change our language and put women into danger. I don't care how nice this dude was. I still don't want men in my bathrooms, in my lockerooms, in my sports.
She's the type of nice that will actively get herself hurt like a lot of women… Because I love my mother but this trash nice mentality is asking women to not trust what they see, or what they feel and go against all danger sense that has been inbuilt to just go 'yeah sure, men come into our bathrooms and don't question it'. I don't know how the woman who taught me as a kid not to trust strangers and strange men would then adopt this almost Darwinian attitude of 'they just wanna pee!' Acceptance that is against her own safety, the safety of other women including her daughter and granddaughter. I can only imagine it's just all the trash MSNNBC shit she listens to. Like the inverse of FOX news I stg.
I'm trying to find some normie peaking materials that isn't too radfem hard so she can at the very least come back to some sort of sense.
No. 2270478
>>2269219They target kids because it's their fetish/because they're narcissists and want the attention/because they have severe autism and cannot understand that a little girl who likes cars is anything but a boy/because they are completely brainwashed by social media and are terrified of being hunted for sport if they don't cheer on a 10 year old who wants hormones.
Mostly it's the first and second reasons. Being trans is a free pass to do anything you want without any consequences. It's much easier to groom kids as a TIM than it is as a man who doesn't wear skirts. TIMs can work at daycares and it's so stunning and progressive and brave, and look, they get to make children explore their true identities! No, the kids aren't Elsa or a dinosaur, they're the opposite gender, because Mr Cat Ear Fetish said so. If the troon has a conviction, it's purely based on transphobia, and you're a bigot if you want your kids to be safe.
And it's so easy to be showered in asspats and attention as the parent of a trans child. Look at how many troon mothers put their 'seahorse dad' birthing videos out there, how many troon men get praised for pretending they can breastfeed (it's chestfeed for everyone else! Only men can have boobas!). Once the attention from one gimmick runs dry, they can troon their kid, and provide updates for the internet on their child's sexual development, which is a totally normal thing to do, obviously. The commenters desperate to know if their child has had a period or an erection and what their chests look like are definitely NOT pedos, how could anyone ever think that.
There's a lot of overlap but they won't ever stop going after kids. If you get them before they develop critical thinking skills, you can make more money from the hormones and surgery they'll need as adults to mitigate the damage of the hormones and surgery they had as kids.