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No. 2313494

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Discuss art and related topics such as:
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
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Useful youtube channels:
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https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2
>where to find art
https://www.wikiart.org/es
https://artvee.com/
>other useful sites
https://film-grab.com/
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
https://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheel
https://freephotomuscle.com/

MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili

No. 2313557

>>2313494
the outdated painting source is finally gone kek
threadpic is "Afternoon in September" by Frank Weston Benson

No. 2313637

>>2313413
In 2018 people were making fun of me for even thinking my art might be good enough for artist alley and in 2023 my anatomy was good enough that it was the first thing people complimented a lot of the time. It won’t take decades to get good at anatomy if you just sit down and dedicate yourself. Find some photos on Pinterest that seem cool and reference them to draw your favs for some fun studies.

No. 2313723

>>2313071
what's the scar? did she get an oophorectomy or something?

No. 2313764

>>2313723
Mostly likely appendectomy

No. 2313796

>>2313723
she got her kidney stolen

No. 2314001

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You cannot get any straighter at first glance with these two. They are drawn stereotypically straight.

No. 2314009

>>2314001
I don't get why it's so wrong to call them "straights" even. unless you count the fact that alex is actually woman, but she's weak to admit that

No. 2314150

>>2313637
I do that, but i only started drawing 2 years ago. I am not dumb, i know it takes time to get good.

No. 2314216

One of the most annoying trends in art lately is trying to emulate an old style and claiming its lost media. I mean, why? its so attention whory and it clogs actual lost media tags. Probably my least favourite art trend next to those shitty anal horror clips. The mv stands on its own, its good, but claiming its lost media so it gets in the algorithm of people who actually care about lost media is so obnoxious i always leave it a dislike even if its good.

No. 2314259

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sorry if this has been asked already (I’ve looked through the old threads and haven’t found much) but are there brushes nonas would recommend for this kind of painterly style in procreate? I adore the rendering style of picrel but I have had trouble getting the hang of it on procreate. I use a hand-me-down iPad and don’t really have the spare money to buy a drawing tablet, so I’d like to work with what I have— but all the artists I admire use sai and that’s not available for iPad (unless there’s some trick I’m unaware of). I’ve imported some custom brushes but haven’t yet found anything that can recreate this nice smooth painterly effect. The painting tutorials I’ve seen for procreate don’t produce the look I want.

No. 2314318

>>2314001
the way I absolutely rolled my eyes at this. I really wish people called her out in the comments but ofc it’s all fakebois

No. 2314507

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i may be dumb and unknowledgeable about these topics but this just seems petty

No. 2314512

>>2314507
yeah these rugs were awesome.

No. 2314532

>>2314507
I mean if she’s Russian what’s wrong with romanticizing her OWN culture? OP sounds salty to me

No. 2314534

>>2314532
op is salty because she didnt get an awesome rug to lie on as a kid.

No. 2314541

>>2314507
The retweeter is Ukrainian, simple.

No. 2314543

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I am disappointed as many people who know how to draw and even popular artists use AI and nobody realizes, if their drawings did not have a soul before now a lot less
Left is the new drawing, it doesn't even have the ability to trace, what is that lineart?

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>>2314259
disclaimer I'm relatively new to digital painting myself, and couldn't find a high enough res image to really pixel peep, this was the highest res file: https://64.media.tumblr.com/72b64f8e6a29f159eddd806e1ceaa521/14ba220858d15f5a-8a/s1280x1920/8954981a87ffe14defd02d630d968888ab4e3f0c.jpg, but…
I don't really think any particular brush is going to get you the look you want. if you look closely at the linked file around the characters' feet and compare the grass and clothing textures, you'll notice there are least 4 or 5 different brushes being used. the trick is that everything is layered and nothing is a totally flat opaque texture, there's gaps and opacity allowing the other layers to show through (like traditional oil painting), and because the artist is rotating between so many different brushes it helps stop it from looking too digital with perfect uniformity, there's some "randomness".

Secondly, use several different hues of a similar value, even within parts of the picture that should be the same color. Look at any little section of one of the dresses where there is no shading, and notice that it's not just blue, but green and grey and brown and blue and purple, all of similar value and layered over each other. Try using a small zoomed in section as a reference layer on your own drawing and play with the color picker, going pixel by pixel adding all the different colors to your palette.

picrel is the only part where I found a non standard brush texture, where you could try making your own custom brush to recreate

No. 2314615

>>2314543
What a fucking downgrade

No. 2314621

>>2314532
It's actually an american woman living in kazakhstan

No. 2314629

>>2314543
Left just reminds me of Ilya's art

No. 2314639

>>2314507
Is she retarded? What exactly is bad about commie blocks except for how they look? I'm currently living in one and sure they are ugly, but they are also cheap and have greenery between them which can't be said about most high density housing. They were also a huge improvement in quality of life for a lot of people when they were built in the soviet era, even if they are outdated now.

No. 2314749

>>2314150
But you're acting like it takes literally forever when it doesn't. 2020 and 2022 were my biggest leap years in terms of improvement because I actually told myself I would sit the fuck down and actively tackle my faults. You're looking for ways to get around them.

No. 2314940

>>2314001
She absolutely wanted to make them straight. She wants that TIF money and attention though. Or she could be just doing this to fill her “my ocs are totally lgbt guyz don’t forget” quota to not lose followers.

No. 2314945

>>2314749
I literally said i draw everyday. I do at the very least a minimun 30 mins of figure drawing. I congratulate you for beign artistically gifted but not everyone is like you, i struggle.

No. 2314963

>>2314945
It's not about who's artistically gifted and who's not. 30 minutes is an extremely short amount of time, it's all about who is dedicated enough to learn the craft. I see people complaining about how young people have it so easy these days and how they're so much more talented, but I guarantee you that 17 year old who draws at a professional level was probably extremely dedicated to drawing shit like Sans or Yandere Simulator fanart since age 9. I struggled too, and my art got dogpiled hard by people when I posted it online, but I took that criticism to heart and decided I'd get so good at art nobody could ever make me feel that way again. I was always the worst artist out of all of my other artist peers, and something changed in the last 3 years, that something being that I actually sat the fuck down and drew a LOT more than I was previously. Then I became the person that was suddenly "too cool" for others just because of my art skill, an extremely stark contrast that's still jarring to me. You just need to dedicate yourself more.

No. 2314967

>>2314963
I swear none of you read, i said at the very least i study 30 min a day. You clearly dont read my posts and are just acting condescending when you dont even know how my art looks.

No. 2314974

>>2314967
Pyw then so people can actually help you?

No. 2314978

>>2314974
No, you guys will just parrot the same shit ''uwu u just need to practice more tehehe'' as if i already dont do that everyday. I dont know if you guys are larping or just have chinese level talent. Its worthless to take criticism from someone if i cant see their art anyways.

No. 2314986

>>2314216
It's just a joke. I don't think they intend for it to be taken as actual lost media. Autists, I swear to God.

No. 2314991

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>>2314507
The rugs were hanged in walls because most of the Russians back in the old days couldn't afford a stove, so having a rug help it to keep the apartment warm, also they worked as sound proof since the walls were thin af. It wasn't only for decoration. Same with the "commie blocks". Be salty AF, Sasha, but please take a lesson on Russian culture first?

No. 2315002

>>2314986
Its not funny its just annoying because my algorithm pushes it to me when i am watching actual lost media content. If you were looking for animal videos and instead you got recommended some anime cat girl you would be pissed too. Its also a bunch of underage zoomies doing this and trying to create the next internet mistery.

No. 2315003

>>2314978
>chinese level talent
Lol you realize the "superior asian art" meme just comes from the fact they have a much more hardcore work culture than we do in the west, right? Therefore they are more inclined to spend more time grinding shit out than us. Just try to copy one of their drawings 1:1, unironically. It's good practice, and it'll help you learn the rendering skills you want.

No. 2315005

>>2315003
Yes, I know. I do all that. Thats why i don't want to post my art here, retards just make assumptions just because they think one can easily become instantly talented with just one or two years of hardwork when it takes years.

No. 2315014

>>2315005
Pewdiepie tho? Though imo pewdiepie is still clearly beginner tier and people were shitting themselves over nothing kek. You're getting super defensive when told to just practice more. I get it's frustrating but it's the only way to become better. Why don't you try some of those xiaohongshu tutorials? Though I'm sure you'll say again I'm just """assuming""" you're not doing shit when you came here looking for help in the first place.

No. 2315022

>>2315014
>say i practice a lot
>you need to practice more!
see what i mean? you dont know how much i practice. I even do the tedious shit no one else wants to do like drawabox and peter han. Its so annoying when people think your lack of skill correlates with your lack of effort.

No. 2315026

>>2315022
I've literally never done either of those because shit like that is nonsensical to me. I just draw what I like and it makes me a lot more invested in my practice, therefore, more knowledge gained. If I don't know how much you practice, then why not just go day by day telling me how much you practiced during December?

No. 2315033

>>2315026
A lot. Its kinda annoying when people negate talent isnt real, i know some people use it as a cope, but it has nothing to do with that. Some people are just naturally better at other stuff. Like how some kids are more inclined for math or for sports. Some people just have to work for harder and longer, and sadly i am the latter.

No. 2315035

>>2315033
>A lot
No anon, I'm asking for actual times. Just an estimate is okay. I also had to study a lot more than my artist peers and I felt bad about my work a lot. Delusion about being a rich and famous artist someday is what kept me going, lol. How much are you ACTUALLY studying?

No. 2315040

>>2315035
52 hrs 32 min according to timer-chan

No. 2315046

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>>2315040
So approximately 3 hours per day. Just keep at it. If that's all you're able to dedicate, and I genuinely don't mean to be condescending what I say this, try to cut down on studies that are "tedious shit" to you and do more art you're personally invested in. I learned a lot more about art obsessively drawing fanart for Genshin Impact than I ever did actually taking art classes. Best of luck.

No. 2315049

>>2315014
Jeez, I'm glad that nonna is not in /ic/.

No. 2315063

>>2314543
I do not care for either of them

No. 2315096

>>2314259
look through here and download whatever you find interesting
https://vk.com/free_brushes

No. 2315178

>>2315046
Sorry for lashing out anon i was having a bad day. I will keep practicing thanks for the encouragement.

No. 2315202

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>>2315096
Not that nonna but thank you for the link! I found the ones I was looking for a while. Hope you have good Festivities.

No. 2315235

>>2314606
Ayrt, thank you for such an in depth explanation, this made a lot of things click for me! I used to love working with colors when I was a teenager and doing traditional art with pastels, but I’ve had a hard time getting the hang of it on digital. this was really helpful (I forget how to insert the little heart thing we have but pretend it’s there)
>>2315096
Thank you! I’ll look through these— I previously found some through the procreate forums but most of the artists making custom brushes there aren’t actually at a high skill level and their brushes are pretty wonky. What you’ve linked looks better, thank you nona (vk is a lifesaver generally)

No. 2315400

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I really wish Kiyo Kyujo went back to her old method of colouring. Her digital artworks just dont hit the same as her older works, im disappointed

No. 2315405

>>2314507
Sorry for late reply but commie blocks and those rugs aren't exclusive to russians kek (the artist is from kazakhstan) pretty much everyone in eastern europe has had some kind of irl exposure to them. Not only that but they didn't disappear after the soviet union fell, plenty of us have never lived a day under communism but still appreciate having our day to day lives represented in art
>t. romanian with family in moldova who's had plenty of experience with post soviet stuff and loves her art
>>2314541
you'd think they'd know better than to call someone from an ex soviet state russian kek

No. 2315510

>>2315400
Digital will never compare to traditional

No. 2315519

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>>2315022
If you’re practicing consistently and not seeing improvement you might need to focus on learning how to learn. Plenty of people on DAD have years of daily drawings and they never improve because they aren’t actually learning. Skills are like muscle groups and just focusing on one part of the skill will give you diminishing returns and you risk burning yourself out. Picrel was useful for developing my artistic eye and breaking down subconscious patterns in my art habits that were holding me back. I share this out of love nonna because I have been in your place before and I understand how frustrated you must feel.

No. 2315521

>>2315519
Thanks nonny, i remember reading this but i will give it a second try.

No. 2315550

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I am struggling so much to come up with an art name. How did you nonnies choose yours?

No. 2315576

>>2315550
I thought of what would best capture the attitude or style of my work, made a word bank of stuff I thought would sound good, and then played with combinations. Don't be afraid to spell words "wrong" as well for style. My username has a word starting with C that I swapped with K so my name would have alliteration.

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>>2315519
Ntayrt but this is a great bit of advice, thanks nonnie! For any painters in the thread, I highly recommend James Gurney's book on light and color theory. Very succinct, easy to understand and covers a ton of topics. Hands down one of the best practical books for the fine arts I've ever bought.

No. 2315590

>>2315550
I just do a pun or a set of random words

No. 2315744

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This came up on my tl and I was shocked to see it had 13k likes because it looks like utter shit lmfao?

No. 2315836

>>2315400
Does she go by different names, bc I thought the top was by a different artist

No. 2315839

>>2315744
Besides the face looking like it's going inwards, it looks fine to me for a loose sketch that was likely done in a few minutes. Joey is very clearly skilled. I like the fluidity of her lines a lot

No. 2315919

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She is just never gonna stop seething.

No. 2316077

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>>2315400
They will never look the same because they’re two different artists. The first one is even signed, you can see Thores in the bottom left corner.

No. 2316080

>>2316077
Ah I had the presumption that Kyujo did all the art for trinity blood, thanks for elaborating

No. 2316393

>>2314967
Nonnie 30 mins a day no where near enough to justify your crashout ITT

No. 2316498

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>>2315919
This was posted already >>2309722. But yes, she's stuck talking about how she's a victim on a loop. Now she's vagueposting about someone else tracing her art, she said in the comments that she might actually show something this time.

No. 2316499

>>2316498
samefag but I accidentally included an unrelated post about her talking about her OCs making her happy when I cropped the Marvel one kek, ignore that.

No. 2316503

>>2316393
Why are anons incapable of reading…

No. 2316507

>>2316498
>it may very well come to that, in due time
what a massive cunt kek. A perpetual victim indeed. She sounds insufferable and extremely mentally ill.

No. 2316517

>>2316503
I don’t think you’ll get the response you’re looking for on here, nonna, you’re just wasting time that could be better used on drawing something new (not just grinding fundies) Trying to be right on the internet is a fool’s errand…

No. 2316519

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>>2314507
ukrainians are going to be petty and salty about people romanticizing soviet union forever, just get used to it and move on
i know it sounds ridiculous to outsiders but if you lived in the same cultural context you'd understand. you never will though and that's ok. not sure what she tried to achieve by tweeting that in english

No. 2316532

>>2313480
She's nothing like Kratos. she doesn't have a hideous beard and doesn't brutally rape and dismember women for fun. How can you judge her personality from a 1 minute teaser anyways? Learn to use your brain and form your own opinions instead of parroting whatever neckbeard influencers tell you.

No. 2316544

>>2315744
does it look like she has a huge pinocchio shaped ear to anyone else?

No. 2316556

Nonas, do any of you feel insecure about your art? Especially when your fellow artist peers are making meaningful art and I'm over here drawing my ocs & my favorite fictional characters doing dumb shit

No. 2316591

>>2316556
yeah a lot more lately. like I don't relate to artists I see irl at all.
I feel like my work is immature compared to everyone else, like I didn't really grow up from liking colorful animals since I was like 6 and feel ashamed for it. things like that

No. 2316594

Do any nonas here like to animate? I always thought I was never that interested in animation until this year I've been questioning whether my art really fulfills me emotionally or not. I realized what I truly feel passionate about is just seeing my ideas come alive in art format and I'm thinking about trying to animate something small to see if I find it fulfilling. Should I just trace over an anime gif to try it out? What are your experiences with the emotional/time investment in animating vs just drawing?

No. 2316599

>>2316594
There's an animation thread on /m if you're interested

No. 2316654

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>>2316556
>>2316591
I also feel this way. This is what was my biggest insecurity for years. I'd draw a lot and despite having dozens of drawings at any given time I'd really have nothing to show for it. It has pushed me to start trying to make more "serious" pieces recently. I haven't stopped drawing my ocs nor do I think I ever will, but I now try to make art that portrays them more interestingly than "guy just standing there on blank background" either by trying more interesting poses or compositions.

It's still lesser in the eyes of irl normies and trad artists who expect me to paint landscapes and realistic portraits but it's helped me get over not even having anything of value to show people when they ask me what I draw. Something like picrel is simple in appearance and not conceptually complex but has enough appeal that it's not a public humiliation ritual to show around. Personally if I'm not rendermaxxing a piece and keep it lightly cell shaded I add a bunch of texture overlays and it makes it looks more interesting to the eye. You don't have to stop drawing your ocs for people to take you more seriously, even if you enjoy slice of life, silly, casual kind of art. I do those too sometimes and what I realized helped its appeal was to portray it as candid shots of the situations you draw like you'd see in photography. Two friends just sharing food or something can be a very nice image if posed and composed nicely.

I do understand though that it all mostly depends on your art style, and people often don't take more cartoony work or work stylized in certain ways seriously at all, but as tired as it is to bring it up once you grind your fundies you can get over that hurdle. I'll use brujoari as an example here because anons are familiar with her work. She has cartoony art that isn't really anything that would be too hard to execute with some practice but it seems to have enough appeal to people that it got its own show, despite her just drawing silly situations of her ocs doing dumb shit as you put it.

I hope I didn't come off preachy, it is not my intention to be some arbiter of new groundbreaking knowledge because god knows I'm not some art savant either, but this is what helped me become more confident and to improve without really changing my subject matters all that much. Good luck anons!



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