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No. 2577801

Previous: >>>/ot/2554367
Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
op artist: Evgenia Antipova
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454
https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2
>where to find art
https://www.wikiart.org/es
https://artvee.com/
>other useful sites
https://film-grab.com/
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
https://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheel
https://freephotomuscle.com/
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili

Frequently Asked Questions
>Where can I download brushes and CSP assets?
Resources such as /dbag/ are easy to find online.
>How do I schedule my art?
Professional artist's schedules are easy to find online, however these may be unsustainable long term and it might be better to use them for references for you to build your own rather than attempting to follow them to a T.
>Is drawing furry or porn profitable? Will it give me clout?
It can be, but the market is incredibly saturated and coomers and furries already have artists they want to commission. You will be competing against thousands of people, consider what makes you stand out and if you really want to sink time and effort into something you may not enjoy even a little.
>Questions regarding AI
Both the AI thread in /m/ or the AI Debate thread might be more suitable.
>What is this style called/who is this artist?
Use reverse image search (yandex, tineye, etc.) or the Help Me Find thread.
>What are your thoughts on…?
Look through older artist salts or give context.

No. 2577837

>>2577801
beautiful OP pic

No. 2577841

>>>/ot/2577696
/m/ has a thread created specifically for posting our art. I would venture to say only about 5 or so of us post there.

No. 2577844

Someone on art fight just told me they usually don’t care for female characters but they liked my ocs kek, the nerve of self hating misogynists. Or at least im 80% sure this user is a woman too

No. 2577846

>images have been broken on artfight for like 3 days now
At this point I’m thinking it’s an inside job

No. 2577847

>>2577844
They arent real anon they are just characters, chill.

No. 2577851

Pardon me for asking, but are all of you really participating in Artfight? Didn't a bunch of people here get banned and their accounts deleted for simply being found out as LC users last year? That automatically made Artfight a no-no for me.

No. 2577852

>>2577847
Nta but read the post again sure they aren't living characters but it was a snide comment at nonas ocs,what's with the ic and cow wks lately? Can you not consume anything without projecting yourself onto it and feeling offended about it?

No. 2577859

>>2577851
It only happened because of some self hating troon snitch that tattletaled on tumblr. Who knows if that gendie is still lurking here, I did suggest that nonas figure out a new tag to identify themselves with earlier before the event started but nothing happened
>>2577852
Yeah that person probably thought it was a flattering compliment but personally I wouldn’t really appreciate some self hating misogynist complimenting me like that. Kinda wish I could tell her to fuck off kek

No. 2577860

>>2577841
Two threads actually, and one of them is filled with more artists than the other. Add on nonas I saw with my own eyes during last year's Art Fight attempt I'm going to guesstimate that there's at least thirty different artists whom consistently draw which is probably not dissimilar to the amount of people who use this thread weekly pre-summer.

No. 2577862

>>2577841
I think more nonnies would post if being associated with LC wasn't a social detriment. Maybe in actuality it's not that bad but people can be paranoid.

No. 2577867

>>2577851
The incident put a really bad taste in my mouth ngl. I'm in a sewing mood and would love to make one or two small plushes for AF but I don't want to make any for gendies so I probably won't do it this year

No. 2577944

>>2577862
kirdede chan posts her art here and on twitter and hasnt gotten cancelled, paranoid anons probably dont draw anyways

No. 2578078

>>2577846
Oh it's gotta be. My schizoid take is that the mods are stalking these threads and found out some (2) nonas are early prepping by drawing pics ahead of time, so they just "oopsie daisied" the images suspiciously close to the opening time of Artfight.
If that is the case then kek. Dumbasses have no idea how YCHs work, and that we can just set shit up early anyway. (it is not the case)
>>2577851
Yes. I wasn't part of the ban wave since my paranoid wouldn't let me connect my online identity to the site anyway. I just want to draw people free shit without them thinking I'm open for requests.
>>2577860
>pre-summer
Where have all the nonas gone… (BETTING the brujo containment thread kek)
>>2577862
Better paranoid than careless, I guess. I was thinking about making a cow OC but I don't know if they'd automatically hone in on it because of how recently it'd be posted. I mainly use this imageboard to talk to semi-normie women, since I already get involved with so many fucking gendies on a regular basis. The fact that I don't wanna be is considered a crime is insane.
>>2577944
I draw, and I'm paranoid!

No. 2578118

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>looking for tutorial on art topic
>Mr. Beast editing style
worst part is when it has useful info

No. 2578119

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what the fuck is this shit

No. 2578134

>>2578118
Post it

No. 2578150

>>2577867
Make one for me please

No. 2578162

>>2577846
Only some of the images are broken for me, and even then I can click on the broken ones and see them in another window. Is that how it is for everyone?

No. 2578228

>>2578209
I've done it for the past two years and I've heard so many complaints about a bunch of different things, but honestly I've been doing just fine and having fun so I'll be participating again this year. The only issue I've had in the past is that I do start to stress a little about my art skills being too shitty and I worry that I can't churn out art fast enough to revenge every attack that I get, but I'm gonna try to remind myself more often that it's all just for fun and I should take it easy this time around. Plus I have a job now which takes up a lot of my time, so it'll kinda force me to be more casual when it comes to my AF participation this year.

No. 2578348

>>2578119
the ghost one is so cute. i don't get the point of the rest cuz, who really owns the oc's design here?
>>2577851
the ban wave gave me a bad taste in my mouth too but i still look forward to the event because there really isn't nothing like it online, unless you make a circle of artist friends and… in this economy, really? i also want my oc children to get some love so i'm hoping fingers crossed to get noticed by some really good artists.

side note, is artfight good to translate the attention you get there to the socmed you post art to the rest of the year?
>>2578228
> I do start to stress a little about my art skills being too shitty and I worry that I can't churn out art fast enough to revenge every attack that I get
this is me! this year will be my first time participating, so i'm doing it as a test to my discipline. gotta take advantage of unemployment until it lasts.

No. 2578362

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How do you nonnas improve your traditional art skills? For example: what is the best technique for coloring with pencils? Or shadow with normal black pencils?

Did you improve independently (self help book and videos) or did someone help you in a art class or one on one? (Or maybe both)

No. 2578383

>>2578362
>How do you nonnas improve your traditional art skills?
I recently got into acrylics. Like, hardcore got into instead of elementary school tier enjoying myself putting pigment on canvas. Truly the key is to look up stuff on youtube. Just dedicate yourself to looking up random video made by people that are like Bob Ross but better at explaining things and copy what they do.
>Did you improve independently (self help book and videos) or did someone help you in a art class or one on one? (Or maybe both)
That's a tricky question. It's more a matter of
>self help via using my own time to find tutorials made by other people
I don't consider that "self-taught", personally, but that's what I'm doing and have been doing haha. You learn a lot by digging through tumblr archives too.

No. 2578392

What's a character design philosophy you personally hate? It doesn't have to be popular opinion either. I'm kind of mixed on "less is more" as a concept. Done well, designs look memorable and iconic. Done terribly, It looks like a plain mess imo. Deliberate detailness is a better way of handling something but that's again my opinion.

No. 2578424

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>>2578392
I've always had a gripe with the shape language principle and how limiting it is

No. 2578431

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>>2578424
It can be less gay if used by a not-retard I think

No. 2578496

>>2578392
Not really a philosophy but I hate the trend of over-designed gacha shit. Particularly with a lot of genshin characters they have so much crap on them that they all look the same, the only thing separating them is colors

No. 2578685

>>2577846
There's no question. A lot of nonnas I know, myself included, like to do ahead prep for AF. These fuckers KNOW very well what they're up to and don't want nonnas to be ahead of the game.
>>2578162
Yes. I'm able to click some and load them up.
It just makes it a bit more tedious, but it is what it is.
>>2577851
I'm gonna do it but only because my mutuals are too. More fun when you have friends to do it with.
I'm not going as hard as last year though. Last year I went full-on apeshit and only got 3 revenges for every 7 attacks I completed.
Not really sure how nonnas can find one another though when there's some snitchy tranny lurking about.
>>2578431
I like this a lot, nonna.
>>2577867
PYW?!
Very based btw.

No. 2578690

>>2578424
The man would be an upside down triangle (the best body type for a man) so this is extra retarded.

No. 2578695

>>2578496
What do you consider a great example of averting this though?

No. 2578698

>>2578685
>PYW?!
What does this mean

No. 2578712

>>2578698
ntayrt but Post Your Work. Nonna wants to see!

No. 2578714

>>2578712
Thanks! I’d love to see as well, but that might reveal her identity…

No. 2578716

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Of course they put “transphobia” before racism, sexism, and homophobia. Sigh…

No. 2578737

>>2578716
>use of slurs
>ableist views
Time to narc on all the 4channers that participate this year

No. 2578758

>>2578716
They really don't care it seems.

No. 2578770

>>2578737
>racist views
>sexist views
So the entirety of 4chan and its trannies

No. 2578848

>>2578770
ban everybody because even the tiktok kids think its quirky to say faggot rn kek

No. 2578941

>>2578424
>>2578431
I agree with both. I hate simplified shape language, it looks shitty and ugly 99% of the time. But it can be used well if the artist know what they're doing.

No. 2578948

>>2578716
very telling of the userbase and staff. most of them are rich white kids that haven't really struggled a second in their lives but since they have a ~spicy~ identity they think their suffering is above them all and that's why they take troonphobia so much deeply than actual bigotry and hatred, they haven't been actually discriminated against… maybe this very obvious fact is better fit for another thread, kek, but it seriously pisses me off how they put troony loony stuff as the #1 thing on everything.
honestly? this makes me more eager to participate, because i'm le evil terf having fun on their pwecious kweerio website and they probably would be very upset if they knew that.

No. 2578995

>>2578716
I bet you they'll only enforce these rules against terfs for wrongthink and play stupid for everything else.

No. 2579015

>>2578995
I mean they did, we all saw it in action. Just the crime of being associated with terfs got anons banned.

No. 2579059

>>2579015
Yea, I'm surprised people are still going back after last year. Fuck AF

No. 2579472

>>2579059
Free art go brr

No. 2579486

>>2579059
im doing it so i can shill my ocs, im tired of being the only person who cares about them kek

No. 2579487

>>2579059
Just join and don't do returns if you can get away with it.

No. 2579489

Where did you people come from? I've been stalking this thread for a while because I want to talk to someone about art kek
>>2578119
samefag I was thinking about doing a funny and designing OCs for these people that are subtly related to lolcows.

No. 2579506

>>2579489
I’ve known about lolcow and have been lurking for years, including other art generals such as the bad art general, but only kinda recently found out about this general a few months ago. Now it’s my main place in confiding about my art related salt unfiltered since I can’t talk about this anywhere else kek. It’s nice to see others shit talk artists I’ve always had some problems with

No. 2579510

>>2579489
From Holly Brown and RacistUncle bullshit.

No. 2579547

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>>2578424
Shape language autists are such a cancer, these ugly designs never look good and instead look amateurish and corporate. They think shape design is the only thing that matters, so as long as you make your character round like a balloon or square like a fridge its clothes or hair doesnt matter. There is a very popular youtube video on youtube that preaches about the importance of shape language, meanwhile picrel is them ''fixing'' a character. The ''improved'' version is the right one that looks like a tranny btw. I dont know how these retards manage to fuck up such a simple concept as shape design, which is meant to enhance a good design. The average townie from the PPG or My life as a teen robot looks 10 times more interesting than that shit.

No. 2579553

>>2579547
I think the style on the right could work in a cartoony, Psychonauts-ish kind of way, but this execution is bad. The design became way more boring, too.

No. 2579554

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Am I crazy or is this very obviously traced/using AI??

No. 2579559

>>2579554
yeah seems like it.

No. 2579560

>>2579554
it even got the trademark ai piss filter kekkkk

No. 2579561

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>>2579547
i keked so hard when they showed this reedit after emphasizing how conflicting shapes shouldnt be in a certain shaped character kek this is supposed to be a femme fatale character yet they chose a bos for her face? it shouldve looked like this

No. 2579571

>>2579561
I always wondered why western animators are so reluctant to add three-dimensional to their designs. I see no point to make the belts look like they are tattoos instead of actualy objects in perspective.

No. 2579586

>>2579547
How on earth is the right one and improvement? It looks so bland and ugly compared to the design on the left.

No. 2579587

>>2579554
not ai but referenced from a real picture very likely. which is kindof a non-issue and has been done for hundreds of years

No. 2579588

>>2578424
I blame the obsession with shape language on Tumblr back in the day. Everyone was going through an anti-anime phase and same face syndrome was a popular topic. It turned into those Homestuck character line ups where everyone tried to have the most unique headcanon for the characters (the female characters always conveniently still had a small cute face and hourglass figure though until drawing them like hulking troons became popular) which then infected every other fandom

You can always tell who's really phoning in shape language in their art, there's definitely people who understand it well but I feel a lot use it as a crutch to avoid learning their fundies

No. 2579591

Ok so nonna, about erotica:
I like to draw erotica/sexual themes because for me erotica or sexual stuff is either animalistic as in raw action (esp. nudity, I like to draw nudity as the simply state of existing), connection for two persons or simply having fun. Sex and flirting in fun but of course, me drawing erotica gets me exposed to countless moid that like my characters. I only have girl ocs and of course my public pages are public to get engagement but how I can get my erotica art less appealing to moids? So far what I noticed is:
>Moids like embarrassed or surprised situations like uwaah! You walked in me changing! Oh no, this monster is going to fuck me!
>Moids like characters looking at them, not complicity. They like titty character staring at them or at the genitalia of other males
>If it's yuri, they like both girls looking at the viewer
>In straight fucking, only the cock is needed, they don't like to see another moid's face
>Casual nudity has to include a random fetish for them, that's over ly exaggerated (ex. a nude girl but she has weirdly detailed feet)
>Of course, ahegao or weird turtle faces, sweat clouds, overly blushed areas
So far these are my points about what they like but doing a complete 180 on this stuff, puts me into tumblr style, weird tif art. So far my reach got slightly better when I drew confident women that do not look at the viewer but I wonder if anynonna here has some other tips?

No. 2579596

>>2579591
>draws female characters in sexual situations
>omg why am i being followed by moids?
are you for real kek

No. 2579599

>>2579596
Women also like erotica, I want to appeal to them. Do not pretend that women do not engage in erotica, come on kek

No. 2579606

>>2579599
Women like yaoi and husbando stuff. Unless you are aiming to draw stuff for lesbians, which fair but they are miniscule amount of the population and lesbian porn is more popular with men than with SSA women.

No. 2579615

>>2579606
And? Yes, I want my miniscule niche, what's strange about it? My question is: how do I make erotica (which is different than straight up mindless porn but I guess that if you cannot tell the two apart, then you probably don't understand what I do) appealing to women or towards the female gaze more? I don't care about popular shit because I already do popular shit under a different name and I know what the average girl/woman on the internet likes, I want to know how to NOT to appeal to men without going full tumblrina/twitter art because not only I don't want to do ugly shit (I refuse to give moids pretty things), I don't want to learn a new artstyle. Is it really that bad trying to fight off this shit? I don't care about how big my public is gonna be or niches, I'm here to get some opinions about patterns and stuff that men don't like so they would fuck off, they aren't even useful but if I block them, I can say bye bye to my career and my side gig, I'm also a crypto so I know what I'm going through, I just want a more curated space.

No. 2579618

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Actual question; why are skinny and tall/elongated drawings of humans universally seen as more attractive? As soon as it's any level of stylized/cartoony like fashion drawings or in anime it just looks better to people if the character is skinny and super tall. Usually what in reality would be comically long legs like picrel is just accepted as normal and attractive. It seems weird because people don't usually yearn for comically long legs the same as they're into big boobs or whatever. Like proportionally so much of the body is put into the legs… idk I'm definitely overthinking it.

No. 2579619

>>2579615
Nta maybe just make your chacaters slightly radical feminists. I think men will be put off if the characters insult men in a radical feminist type fo ways. You said you are crypto so just insult men and not trannies.

No. 2579621

>>2579615
What makes you think you dont have your miniscule niche audience already? if you want to completly cull off men that's impossible and they will always be more than lesbians since straight men are most of the world's population. As long as you draw sexy women men are going to flock to it like flies to shit.

No. 2579622

>>2579619
>anon doesnt know about men into femdom
oh poor innocent nonny. Men literally pay women to insult them.

No. 2579623

>>2579622
I know that's why i said radical feminist type of way because that stuff cuts deeper than the vast majority of men who are into femdom want.

No. 2579625

>>2579615
A someone not into erotica, the only erotica I can find appealing as art is realistic but stylized nudity of women chilling. I imagine realistic proportions ward off most moids by default

No. 2579626

>>2579623
It really doesnt kek. Those men literally like to get ballbusted you are insane if you think a few mean words coming from cartoon girls is going to affect them. Some of them come here just to get their fix of women insulting them. We literally have a gross moid who selfposts his videos of him in a diaper on the cringe thread so anons can insult him.

No. 2579627

>>2579622
Kek, was just about to say that. Unfortunately what makes one moid go into a homicidal rage gets another off, or makes him get off and homicidal rage.

No. 2579629

>>2579626
Some come here yes, that's the ones she will never get rid off, but spending my time selling art to horny moids most of them don't want feminist stuff they get triggered, it's funny.

No. 2579630

>>2579627
Not only that but most women into self-sexualization are super mega pickmes who would cancel nonny at the mere hint of misandry. The only way to appeal to women is drawing pastel pink moeblobs with big fat tits like that ugly shit super sonico. But that's also going to attract tons of moids.

No. 2579631

>>2579591
Men have really low standards so this is hard but I guess the the more work it takes for them to coom, the better, as they are more likely to click off your work and seek out quicker gratification. Maybe you could try more dialogue heavy and scenario/character development heavy sex scenes (plot with porn) and focusing more on male bodies instead of female bodies. If you have to focus on female bodies, make them have normal proportions. No gigantic tits or crazy curves and use angles to hide tits/ass like how they always do in moid gaze media with the men.

No. 2579632

>>2579629
Yes i am sure moids are super triggeed by your feminist porn anon. They must feel super owned by a woman drawing sexy girls and calling it feminist, not like men constantly make fun of how libfems who think the sexual revolution of shaking their asses and dressing in provocative clothes is totes feminist and owning da men.

No. 2579639

>>2579632
God you're an assuming retard. I don't draw feminist porn, i'm saying that when they see feminist porn that hurts their ego they don't like it, because that's what 15 years of my market research statistics show me. I draw porn they want because i love to take their money for me listening to podcasts and drawing in my cave, that's all there is to it. I don't care about libfems or shaking asses or whatever has nothing to do with what i talk about.

No. 2579641

Is twitter really the only place to post art? I see so much ugly slop get popular that I'm salty it's not me. I'm tired of getting zero engagement elsewhere. And why is every art discord filled with trannies?

No. 2579650

>>2579639
>feminist porn
>for men
topkek sure anon you are soooo based for drawing coomshit for men instead of drawing stuff for women, you seriously are showing them by being paid to make them cum! reminds me of another line of work were women get paid for the same thing, it's the oldest profession after all.(baiting)

No. 2579652

>>2579650
Why do you belive i want to "show them" that's what you imagine in your head because you don't understand written text longer than one sentence. I just want to make money from men who have higher wages and live my life in peace. I don't need to show anything to anyone, how difficult is it t understand that i don't live with an agena?

No. 2579654

>>2579621
Why do you have to be so negative, why do you believe that people already begin with a following? Let people begin and grow, why the fuck are you so bitter

No. 2579657

>>2579652
Then stop claiming it hurts their ego because we both know it doesnt. You are lying to justify drawing coomslop for men.

No. 2579660

>>2579654
I am not the one that wants to draw male gaze porn and not attract moids. She needs to accept it's going to attract 99% moids 1% women or stop clogging the thread with the most retarded question yet.

No. 2579666

>>2579657
As i said I did my research and most men just don't like radical feminists insulting them in their porn in my experience. I'm not "justyfying" how i make money with this statement in any way because it's not a statement to justify aything, it's just what my research showed. It's two different things. Again you think i have some agenda of justifying porn, i don't, couldn't care less. I'm just saing my experience as a person involved in the trade with information that somebody could use.

No. 2579667

>>2579657
get a bf who eats u out, taking this shit so serious

No. 2579669

>>2579667
ew wtf is wrong with you to be gross.(infighting)

No. 2579671

>>2579625
Yeah I also noticed that men don't like women just existing out of their ahegao fantasies kek
>>2579631
I already keep my proportions realistic (or maybe on the more cartoonish style but always balanced because I don't draw realism) but the fact is that they see shit where it isn't. Just like I don't believe in modesty shit, I don't believe in only drawing fridge bodies with a bedsheet would make them scram but since they always rely on fantasy and since I'm not a porn brainrotted moid, I wonder what kills those fantasies without limiting myself. We already limit ourselves too much for moids (in the industry, people told me to not too make bodies too detailed or drawing nipples in general because men would harass irl artists because they would come up and say weird shit at signing sessions like what the fuck lol)
I just really, really like women and I like bodies. I like to allow them to exist in my art in a non pornified way and if you, >>2579632 , believe that all sexuality or sex is porn then I'm sorry for your sad view of it, if you actually believe that two people having intimacy that's carried on by feelings and mutual attraction is the same as coomslop with titty characters and tentacles, I'm sorry for you. There's a difference in being antiporn (which I am) and being sex negative. Sex is fun, can be a nice moment, can help people discover themselves and that's the vibe I want to give in my drawings, that was my question and you said abloobloo you want to cather to moids ablobloo as if they're the only ones to enjoy sex kek and pretty drawings are not only for men, stop kicking your own box because the differences are there, I just asked how to make them more obivous.

No. 2579673

>>2579666
>i did my research
>just trust me bro
yeah sure, your ''research'' holds more weight than the common knowledge that men will fuck anything and especially women they hate just to 'own' them. Men literally make AI porn of hilary clinton and anita sarkeesian.
>>2579671
>if you actually believe that two people having intimacy that's carried on by feelings and mutual attraction is the same as coomslop with titty characters and tentacles, I'm sorry for you.
If that werent the case you wouldnt be complaining about moids following you and cooming to your totes not porn art. You are stupid if you think men see the beauty in the female porn. Playboy didnt show bush in their magazine until the 80s and even then most centerfold continued to be just naked women. Its still porn. Sorry to burst your bubble but it's the truth. Women who enjoy sex like sexy husbandos, not looking at naked women. I dont know why you are convinced straight women want to look at women in their porn.(infighting)

No. 2579675

>>2579673
>If that werent the case you wouldnt be complaining about moids following you and cooming to your totes not porn art.
I'm aware of this and I asked how to make it less appealable. I know that reading comprehension is hard but I didn't believe to face this absymal level of understanding and where did I say that I want to appeal to straight women only?

No. 2579677

>>2579673
If it holds weight for you or not that's not my problem. I said what's my experience and it's on everybody to take that in or not. And yes it's research of 15 years. If you want to make money you have to research the market and find what works the best. It's not difficult to do researches for people who can understand written text and aren't automatic assumption machines.

No. 2579679

>>2579675
>nonnies how do i make my male gaze porn not appeal to men??
Do you read yourself? just own drawing the shit you like instead of jumping through impossible hoops. ''erotic'' content is just porn, but people grew so accostumed to an ever growing hypersexualized society that what was playboy centerfold worthy in the 60s is now considered artistic nudity lmao.

No. 2579682

>>2579677
Again, you keep going on and on about your ''research'' but show no proof of said research. I can say i did research for 20 years to prove the earth is flat and that doesnt make it true unless i can show you objective proof that the earth is flat. It's like you dont realize your supposed research isnt a valid argument because unless you actually prove it, it means nothing.(infighting)

No. 2579683

>>2579679
nta and I agree, but at the same time I'd like it if women were able to create erotic content just for women that men didn't have access too. It's like talking and giggling about sexual encounters or hot guys you saw with your girl friends, and then you notice a fat pig moid pressed up and breathing on the window with his dick heard listening in. It just wasn't meant for him or any moid.

No. 2579686

>>2579683
>women were able to create erotic content just for women that men didn't have access too

Noo nonny nooo if women in the drawing are not puritans then it's porn and it's always for men noooo because women's naked bodies, no matter the dimensions on how they're portraited, it's always sexual and porny, naked women are only for men nooooo

No. 2579689

>>2579683
>I'd like it if women were able to create erotic content just for women that men didn't have access too.
It has existed for decades and it's called yaoi.

No. 2579690

>>2579689
But what if I don't want men in my erotica

No. 2579691

>>2579690
Why are you talking about women as a whole then. Just say lesbians. Lesbians are a minority, i am sure they have tons of yuri and coomshit at their disposal too.

No. 2579692

>>2579689
Yaoi is literally only for porn rotted fujos, I was talking about regular women.(fujo sperging)

No. 2579693

>>2579691
Bisexual women exist. Women who enjoy other women aesthetically exist. Women who want to see and read more women centric stories exist. Claiming that women are for men only and women only have to enjoy gay porn is a retarded take.

No. 2579694

>>2579692
50 shades of grey and other booktok slop exists for self inserters too.
>>2579693
>Women who enjoy other women aesthetically exist
topkek no, if a moid told he me aeshtetically enjoys men i would call him a fag because he is. If you like looking at sexual pictures of women you are at the very least bisexual. Straight women dont like looking at sexy pics of women.(derailing)

No. 2579695

>>2579691
Nta but why would straight women not want straight women portrayed in their erotica to identify with? Normal straight women aren't actually turned on by gay men or their gay activities, most women aren't turned on by anal sex or blow jobs either.

No. 2579696

>>2579694
>Straight women dont like looking at sexy pics of women

Oh sweet summerchild, you have no idea. Being straight doesn't mean going "EWWW!!" when a sexy woman walks in front of you as a woman, top kek

No. 2579697

>>2579695
But why do you want to look at sexualized women in your porn unless you are bisexual? yaoi is also immensely popular so women prefeer looking at two hot guys than a single hot guy.(derailing)

No. 2579698

>>2579696
Yes it does, that's what OSA is. If you find sexy women attractive you are gay, same sex attraction is literally defined by the attraction towards people of your same sex. I dont know why you think finding women sexy while being straight it's normal but it's really not. When i see an attractive woman i feel nothing because i am not gay.(derailing)

No. 2579699

>>2579694
>Straight women dont like looking at sexy pics of women.
It's literally just self-inserting and a lot of women do it. That's why they always make the female lead cute or sexy because it's a female power fantasy essentially to be attractive and beautiful.

No. 2579700

>>2579697
Why do you want to look at the sky if you're not a pilot? Why do you want to look at the sea if you are not a marine biologist? Why do you want to go to museums if you can't draw?

No. 2579702

>>2579699
>self inserts as a sexy woman
>nooo why is my porn attracting men
I dont understand why anons problem is? like what does she expect. If you are going to draw female characters that adhere to the male gaze they are going to attract men. There is a reason why fags had to make bara, because it's aesthetics filter fujos into female made aesthetics. Women could do the same and draw women with realistic proportions, unsexualized and with body hair riding hot guys but none of you actually want that, you want the male gaze.(derailing)

No. 2579703

>>2579694
>>2579697
The art is like an avatar for women, including straight, to project themselves onto. Women much more than men do this as we're more socially inclined, it's why females on an a much greater scale like playing dress up with dolls, making OCs, playing the sims and such. If the avatar is pretty then I'm pretty, if she's sexy I'm sexy. It's not in any way a new phenomenon. Part of the reason why violent porn is so off-putting is because it's very hard to no identify with the woman being abused, rather than as a straight woman being turned on by he hot guy whose doing it and ignoring the woman.

No. 2579706

>>2579700
How is any of that comparable to sexualizing women? if a straight women told me she found me sexy i would think she's a creep. If a moid told another moid he finds him sexy but no homo he would beat him to death. Its not normal to feel sexually attracted to the same sax if you arent bisexual/lesbian and it's weird you are claiming it is.(derailing)

No. 2579708

>>2579706
Projection and sexual attraction is not the same though.

No. 2579709

>>2579703
Yeah i can get that, that's why i dont understand what anon means by making porn involving attractive/pretty women that doesnt attract men. If you are adhering to moid aesthetics you are going to attract moids, simple as.
>>2579708
Why do you need to project onto women its weird, but ok. Wish women could exist without being sexualized even by supposed 'straight' women.(derailing)

No. 2579711

>>2579702
men could draw themselves as hot yaoi guys, they simply believe that all beauty is gay, that's why they don't kek it's not that deep and no one would stop them
>>2579706
>How is any of that comparable to sexualizing women?
Again, reply, why would you go to a museum if you can't draw? Because you like to LOOK at stuff. People like to LOOK. Do you believe that to appreciate a museum you have to be good at art? Do you think that to enjoy a nice sunset you have to be a scientist? Do you think you have to be an animal fucker to find animal beautiful or cute to look at? Weird!

No. 2579713

>>2579700
>>2579696
>>2579693
nta but kek what in a tumblr tier response are these
>>2579686
you know, i think you'd have a point if men weren't able to jack off to a stick figure with boobs. you cannot make an image focused on a naked woman and claim it's feminist or femgaze, it'll attract men anyway(infighting)

No. 2579715

>>2579709
Quick question, how old are you? You remind me of guys in middle school that immediately get with their back on the wall after learning that one of their classmates is gay and go "B-But you don't find ME attractive right, you creep??"
Learn how to divide sex from porn. You believe that all sex is porn. I know you're into babby's first radical feminist lessons but learn to see the difference in objectifying and sexual feelings.

No. 2579716

>>2579711
>men could draw themselves as hot yaoi guys
if they did this and then claimed its not for women/fags everyone would laugh at them, so i dont understand why anon is having such a hard time grasping the fact most men are straight and they like attractive women.
>People like to LOOK.
but why do you like looking at sexy women if you are not gay? whats the appeal? looking at what people consider sexy women just makes me sad, seeing them contorting themselves like worms, fully shaved for men it just makes me feel gross. I dont get it. Whats considered ''attractive'' in women is always dictated by men and thus i dont hold women to those standards, and if someone did that to me i would feel bad.

No. 2579718

>>2579715
But anon is claiming she's totes not a lesbian though? which is what i dont get. Also sex is not porn, because we are talking about people having sexual relationships in the privacy of their home. But we arent talking about sex, we are talking abour drawn pornography that's posted to be consumed on the internet. It's not the same.(derailing)

No. 2579720

>>2579716
>if they did this and then claimed its not for women/fags everyone would laugh at them
Their loss, skill issue kek
>but why do you like looking at sexy women if you are not gay? whats the appeal?
Aesthetic. Beauty. Oh no, why are beautiful people beautiful??

No. 2579723

>>2579716
Women and men experience sexuality different because they are different, I don't get why we are trying to compare 1:1. It's just a fact that a lot of women self-insert into the sexy woman in the story because feeling attractive/an object of desire is part of sexuality for women. On the other hand men are so afraid of being gay that they will even refuse to look at another man.

No. 2579724

So if I drew sexual content centered on men of various presentations, I'm a porn addict? Basically ignoring the wide swathes of degrading fetish of art of women? Yet the moment a woman draws tasteful erotic content that's too much?

No. 2579728

>>2579720
I can find attractive people beautiful without sexualizing them though. I dont know why you jump to sexualizing them.
>>2579723
Thats fine but then why complain about how drawing sexy women attract men? it doesnt make sense. Either dont draw sexy women or draw them and accept its going to attract men no matter what.
>>2579724
>tasteful erotic content
that's the point, there isnt such a thing as tasteful erotic content, its still porn. You are free to draw whatever but dont wax poetic about how your porn is empowering then cry when it attracts moids. Men have been adding ''tasteful erotic'' scenes to movies for decades and it's clearly just porn kek, i am not falling for that moid excuse.(infighting)

No. 2579731

>>2579723
>>2579703
wtf no, i like pretty female avatars but i don't like them sexualized, simple as that. what's this weird push that women like to look at softporn imagery of their own sex?
>>2579720
beauty doesn't mean sexy

No. 2579732

>>2579728
>there isnt such a thing as tasteful erotic content

Please just leave the thread, then. If you can't divide the two, then you have no idea about how to even look at art or the context, to you a pussy it's automatically porn like those weird religious moids. To you, women's bodies are porn. Ick.

No. 2579737

>>2579731
>what's this weird push that women like to look at softporn imagery of their own sex?
Didn't say that women like the look at soft porn of other women. It's that when there is female-orientated porn, for example hetero josei smut, when women self-insert into it they want to self-insert into an attractive and sexy woman. It's that simple. Not defending the medium but women like that exist and calling them lesbians or bisexual is unfair to actual SSA women imo.

No. 2579739

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>>2579732
Erotic content is literally sexual what are you talking about. There is a difference between a nake potrait and erotic content. Anon isnt talking about drawing naked pictures of women she's talking about drawing erotic content, which is indeed sexual.

No. 2579744

>>2579709
>If you are adhering to moid aesthetics you are going to attract moids, simple as.
A woman making art she likes for other women is not "moid aesthetics." Why don't you think women are allowed to complain about those men when they just wanted to make art for women anyway? Just because it happens doesn't mean it's not frustrating, like if you get catcalled just for existing as a woman we're not gonna go "well duh, should have stayed home and never left the house if you didn't want that to happen".
>>2579709
>Why do you need to project onto women its weird, but ok
If humans didn't project we'd have no stories with humans in them ever. No movies, no books, no art. You sound a bit anti-social or autistic perhaps.

No. 2579745

>>2579739
>Using wikipedia as a source
>Wikipedia still doesn't define erotica as porn

Yes nonny, yes. erotica and sex are connected because they are the same thing. Erotica and porn is NOT. Porn is a manifactured product that's aimed at a consumer for their pleasure only, if there's a sex scene in a book or movie that portraits, even explicit-ally (I'm an esl retard) two people being invested in each other or just naked, chilling, doesn't automatically mean porn due to their nature. Nudity isn't automatically porn, women's bodies aren't porn, rape isn't porn because everything needs, again, CONTEXT. If you can't grasp the CONTEXT, then you are media illiterate, that's it. Sex is a natural part of humanity, as well sexual attraction, porn stemmed from puritan views and weird moid projecting their shit morality. We are born naked. Yes, our society got pornified, no, having sex and drawing it is not automatically porn. I'm feeling like I'm explaining this stuff to a retarded kid, I'm tired.

No. 2579746

>>2579737
Pickmes is more of an apt term for those. They are also a minority, Teen Love is really niche and will never come close to the popularity of yaoi. Claiming those women's sexualities is the norm is just untrue. There are more women in BL and booktok cringe than women into TL, it's an extremely niche market.

No. 2579751

>>2579732
>to you a pussy it's automatically porn
or maybe nonna isn't interested in looking at a pussy? how odd is it that straight women don't what to look at female genitals
>>2579737
yeah, but there's a difference between sexy and sexualized. sexualization by definition cannot be empowering

No. 2579753

>>2579745
>ree erotic content isnt porn
>but also i must depict my women in my porn, i mean erotic content, as male gazey approved women otherwise it's tumblr tif art! wait waah why are men following
lmao, sure anon. Your porn is totes not porn it's ackshually something deeper that us mere mortals wouldnt understand, you need to have a very high IQ to understand porn. Btw if you search erotic content in google all you get is obvious porn kek.(infighting)

No. 2579755

>>2579753
Quick question, do you believe that women in african tribes that barely cover their chests (some don't) are pornified just because they bare their chests so their portraits are automatically porn? You sound so terribly autistic.

No. 2579758

>>2579745
Like, why are some nonnas weird about people having normal, natural sex? How is it comparable to porn? I take two normal people being intimate with each other over pornslop where SEX SEX SEX is the only thing that matters. Erotica will always be more empowering for treating both sides as equals.

No. 2579760

>>2579755
How is a naked woman just existing comparable to erotic content meant to arouse the viewer? it's like you are too dense to understand erotic content is sexual in nature, otherwise it wouldnt be erotic it would just be naked photography/art. You remind me of moids at my art classes who claimed their naked drawings of women were totes not pornography they were art and were just appreciating the naked body, but then would never show interest in drawing men or the male body kek. Interesting how erotic content always focuses on the sexualized female body and the male pleasure and it's never about a sexy man or a woman being pleasured. Totes not porn tho.

No. 2579761

>>2579554
Who's the artist?

No. 2579763

>>2579758
Because they are illiterate. They believe that sex is porn like moids but try to have a radfem approach so both are bad for some fucking reason. They don't see context, sadly is that simple.

No. 2579764

>>2579758
No one is talking about having sex, they are talking about depicting sex through a medium(in this case art) which is pornography. It's insane to me that people dont know the difference between intimate sex and sex as a product.

No. 2579765

>>2579760
>How is a naked woman just existing comparable to erotic content meant to arouse the viewer

And what the fuck I've been saying? I want to draw BOTH nudity AND (and, meaning at the same tìme, meaning that they're not mutually exclusive) erotica and since I'm not a retard that believes that nudity means sex or porn but moid do, how can I make my nudity pieces less appealing to them? That was my first question, you just went on a super autistic retarded ramble about how nudity automatically appeals to men, as if naked women only exist for men and women can't find it attractive or aesthetically pleasing for some fucking reason that you cannot comprehend. Make up your mind or stop being in a tunnel.

No. 2579766

>>2579764
So having sexual themes in your story or art is bad regardless of how it's depicted? Is thinking about sex the only time it's fine? What if I make content in a private discord where only my followers see what I make? I'm not saying we should shove sexual art out in the open where kids are, but it's werid you're likening non-hyperseuxalized depections of sex to porn when the whole point of porn is how fake it is.

No. 2579768

>>2579765
>how can I make my nudity pieces less appealing to them?
idk draw body hair, very old women, give them cellulite. You are basically asking for men to stop being straight and finding women attractive and thats impossible.

No. 2579769

>>2579766
Absolutely no one is saying that? please read the thread before responding. Anon wants to draw porn involving women and not attract men kek

No. 2579770

>>2579760
>Interesting how erotic content always focuses on the sexualized female body and the male pleasure and it's never about a sexy man or a woman being pleasured

have you tried looking out, for that stuff? Because I can make a list. Just because you've been socialized with moids (to the point that you believe that a woman calling you sexy is the exact same as a moid doing it) and only consume moid-made shit but come on, you have the object permanence of a baby, just because it's not in your field of view, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

No. 2579772

>>2579770
>to the point that you believe that a woman calling you sexy is the exact same as a moid doing it)
is it really that weird to you that some women just dont want to be sexualized jfc. Also feel free to recommend your totes not porn, they probably feature hideous men.

No. 2579774

>>2579755
nta, but what a dishonest comparison. bare chests of tribal women aren't porn, they simply don't appeal to straight women. is it that hard to grasp?
>>2579765
but why are you expecting women who are not ssa find your nudity pieces appealing? female form isn't something special that has to be admired universally by both of the sexes

No. 2579777

File: 1750945165512.jpg (Spoiler Image,303.27 KB, 813x1163, RCO094_1486108928.jpg)

>>2579772
If you think that this is straight appealing porn, despite being a lesbian love story with erotic elements, then you are purely retarded with no grasp of media literacy.
Stuff is out there, go fetch. Some women want to draw other women fucking, that's it.

No. 2579778

>>2579724
Let's skip the argument and get straight to the answer with the most sense: no.

No. 2579780

>>2579774
yes but some do and I want to do stuff for them, if you do not like it why do you even care? Just don't look at it, lol?

No. 2579781

>>2579777
>anon doesnt know yuri exists
lol, lmao even. I dont know why you think some text is going to filter some men from fapping to pixar baby faced lesbians with alt hair.

No. 2579785

>>2579781
Yes, of course, just like men won't stop raping women even in muslim countries where they have to wear the burka, so what do we do? Stay inside?

No. 2579791

>>2579780
so why do you care if your art will attract moids? they like to look at naked women no matter how shittily drawn they are

No. 2579792

>>2579781
It is now forbidden to enjoy things and ask women what they like or find appealing in erotica because men fap to it anyway. Got it.

No. 2579793

>>2579791
Because I want to appeal more to women and find the right audience because I know there's a niche that likes the same stuff that I like. It's not that weird. If putting some body hair will make some moids go away, it's still a moid less that's following me and I want to appeal to women for any reason because I don't care about what women do with my art, because they're not moids. It's not that deep, you brilliant mind.

No. 2579796

>>2579792
So you acknowledge men will fap to it anyways, so why get angry when men follow you? just draw whatever you like, you are not going to filter moids unless you draw very tif adjacent stuff like unappealing women that dont fall under whats considered 'erotic'. You can literally block comments from people that you dont follow you on shitter if you dont want moids commenting.

No. 2579799

>>2579793
Then just draw whatever the fuck you like? why are you making a mountain out of a molehill. Research what women like and draw that, jesus it's not that hard.

No. 2579801

>>2579796
Men will fap to a puddle or a steak in a radiator, we can't do much about it in general but we can make stuff LESS appealing for them. Women don't have to get ugly or gross only to avoid getting hit on by men, that's tif logic, what I asked is that there is a method, without falling into tumblr art that's recognizely gross, to draw erotica without making it a porny product.
>>2579799
And that's why I asked this shit on lolcow, where moids are instabanned, and asked other women itt what they like but no, you came to shit your morals on the table without getting a single strand of grasp of the context. If you can't help, don't reply, that's simple.

No. 2579808

>>2579801
You came to the worst place because lolcow anons notoriously hate sexualized female self inserts in their coom, hense why the fujo vs yume wars exist. Maybe you should ask in the waifu or lesbian thread what they want to see.

No. 2579810

>>2579808
You're the only one itt making a big fuss about it. It's not a matter of waifu, it's a matter of ART and ART THEMES in general, I believe you're the one so rotted in porn that you don't see anythign than porn and waifu, you're a lost cause.

No. 2579812

>>2579801
>Women don't have to get ugly or gross only to avoid getting hit on by men, that's tif logic, what I asked is that there is a method, without falling into tumblr art that's recognizely gross, to draw erotica without making it a porny product.
I mean you clearly belive that women that dont adhere to male ideals of beauty are ugly and gross, so ofcourse you are going to attract male followers. It's so weird that you both claim to hate moids but also hold women to male imposed beauty standards. You are always going to attract men if you dont draw what you consider gross women, ask yourself why. I honestly dont understand why you just dont draw what you find attractive, who cares if men like it too.

No. 2579816

>>2579810
I am not the one calling women who arent sexually appealing to men gross and ugly kek to me all women are just humans, because i am not gay and i couldnt give less of a shit if a woman is attractive or not. You hold women to male standards then get angry when moids like your art. Say whatever about tif art but they do manage to filter moids by drawing women they consider ugly.

No. 2579820

>>2579812
>I mean you clearly belive that women that dont adhere to male ideals of beauty are ugly and gross

What are you, twelve? I was talking about tumblr ART STYLE that's notoriously gross in general with shit proportions, often yellow teeth and purple eyelids/dark circles, gross genitals and overall a grimy, dirty vibe. Again, why do you talk if you can't grasp the context? What I meant is that we don't have to resort to ugly things or ugli-fy ourselves so men will leave us alone. Yes, I believe that tifs that transition to escape "womanhood" due to trauma and give themselves horrible beards and scars due to the mastectomies are fucking gross, because it's all connected. You don't know my beauty standards kek

No. 2579821

>>2579801
>>2579793
but you've already admitted that "osa" women who are into female nudes are unusurprisingly a minority and you think you can build an audience this specific. it's impossible to post a drawing of an attractive, naked woman and not have men follow you at the same time. better to accept it and move on.

No. 2579823

>>2579591
>but how I can get my erotica art less appealing to moids?
Judging from what the other nonas are saying; you can't. Due to men being just as varied as women (the shocking truth), you'll get stragglers hanging on no matter how you shake them. It might just be a matter of you blocking any you com across.

No. 2579828

>>2579820
No one said anything about the artstyle, i was talking about drawing hairy, fat, cellulite women, which men find gross. You can draw it in your artstyle if you want. You claim to want to filter men but also dont want to draw things that would filter them because you consider them ugly lol.

No. 2579831

>>2579828
>No one said anything about the artstyle
I did. In the first question. Tif art stems from tumblr art. Know your enemies, nonna. I never said that I consider certain features ugly, this is the art thread, I was talking about art styles.

No. 2579838

What the fuck happened to this thread. I would rather see the ari brujo sperging back in this thread than this retarded argument again for the 100000th time

No. 2579843

>>2579838
Are you participating in Art Fight, nona? I too am surprised to see this shit here kek

No. 2579844

>>2579831
Then if you know whats unnapealing to men just draw that? anon pls. I dont understand why you dont just simply draw for yourself, regardless of what moids think.

No. 2579848

>>2579844
Because that's like saying ohh men fap to women, then why don't you draw gay furries since they're not females or human?

No. 2579851

>>2579848
It's mostly men fapping to gay furries too kek

No. 2579857

>>2579848
No one is saying you shouldnt draw women. Your problem is that men will fap to it, which is a given because most men are straight. There is nothing you can do about it, might as well accept it.

No. 2579866

>>2579843
No I'm not. I was one of the nonnies that got banned last year kek! I thought about doing it again with friends under a new username but I changed my mind.

No. 2579902

File: 1750951484554.jpg (253.25 KB, 947x1200, velinxi.jpg)

I was in love with someone's art style many years ago, it was unique and soulful to me but she changed it to one that skinwalks a catalog of popular coom artists. I want to keep her old style alive, so I stole it (technique, not actual works). She's been inactive for years and deleted her old work, whether that makes it better or worse. Picrel is not her, just another artist with copycats. Hope she's doing okay but if she isn't using it anymore, it's free real estate.

No. 2579940

>>2579591
gonna hope my attempt to answer your question doesnt trigger another shitstorm:
>the big one is drawing non-feminine women. anything androgynous, bifauxnens, butch women. especially if its two non-feminine women together.
>avoid making the non-feminine women ultra-roidpigged "muscle mommies" though, thats just another form of unrealistic proportion bound to attract certain types of moids.
>avoid having straps involved, and if you do certainly dont have them refer to it as their "dick" or anything similar, youll draw the futashitters and troons in (speaking of troons, probably should make it clear your characters are all unambiguously female and that you have no interest in drawing futashit ever).
>having one or both parties stay more "clothed" with sports bra/boyshorts as opposed to always doing really skimpy lace lingerie.
>avoid drawing women, even your feminine women, like drag queens (really garish emphasized makeup/lipstick).
>dont draw only erotica, draw other stuff that showcases their personality and history too
>dont pose them like theyre female superheroes breaking their backs on a marvel/dc comic cover, consistently ask yourself if the pose would look dumb or weird if it was a man doing it, same with angles and composition and such.
>have fun and be yourself idk.
also its a little hard to explain why but if youre the anon that posted it, i dont find >>2579777 to be the best example of femgaze f/f. something about the camera angles and the amount of body shots with no face visible? again, hard to explain, a lot of this is "vibes" in the same way you could tell an artist draws hentai coomshit even on sfw pieces. related to my second to last point, i dont feel like id often see this type of composition with male characters.

No. 2579948

>>2579799
Where do you begin it comes to making men sexy under the female gaze?

No. 2579967

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Please let's bring back bullying in art spaces. 2 to 5 years ago, these "autists" didn't exist and everyone adapted and grew up on a silent etiquette in art spaces, losing art sites like newgrounds, deviantart and tumblr (yes this is still up at a fraction of what it used to be) and making everything social media based created these entitled monsters, this one in particular believes that you have to be her friend but at the same time she is taking a social media break, what the fuck. I can give you countless examples of people that do not understand that artists are merely workers and not random people that are your friends, I miss less connected times and people being more on the shy side of autism instead of being entitled. I have these problems with (surprise!) furry customers (they're the most paying people and I'm cleaning their dirty money by putting them in my terf piggybank) but oh god, after years of art being not only art but useless and weird conversation, I'm totally burned out, we need another space to simply be.

No. 2580014

>>2579967
>Please let's bring back bullying in art spaces
What is stopping you from doing it? And there's plenty of bullying in the tiktok art community. Your own fault for 1) going on tumblr and 2) yumeblr. You're like the dumbass anons going on artfight, famously THE tranny furfag site™️, to complain about the userbase that made it what it is.

No. 2580029

>>2580014
what oddly specific assumptions towards that anon kek

No. 2580049

>>2580029
What are you even talking about

No. 2580058

>>2580014
this was on facebook, which is surprisingly full of these type of autists and no, you are not aware of how the slightest rude reply could kill your career in corporate internet

No. 2580060

>>2580058
If you really cared about bullying harmless autists into not sharing their interests on the world wide web you'd make another account just for that purpose. Tch

No. 2580062

>>2580060
I am but one soldier without an army…

No. 2580124

>>2579967
>Love and Deep Space
of course

No. 2580224

There’s no way this thread has infights every single day. Anyway, for the nonna that asked, I don’t think there’s a particular way to make your art less appealing to men, specially when it features women, and I understand not everyone wants to do yaoi (specially if it is just to avoid men). But what you can do is base your art/take inspiration/etc on work/art that has more of a female fanbase and that has a female author.
For example
-Sex and the City
-Vintage romance movies, specially with female screenwriters
-Anais Nin’s work
-Vintage Josei
-Anne Rice
-Violette Leduc
-Angela Carter
-Leonora Carrington
-Blue is The Warmest Color (not sure about the movie, but the comic is very good)

Sorry I would recommend more but my mind is empty right now. I’m not going to infight about this but erotica is definitely different from porn (or at least the classical view we have of it). Some anon is going to reply to this saying yaddayaddayadda male gaze but this is just my opinion, and also I’m not sure there is ever a way to escape the male gaze, even living your life avoiding it is also living to it in a way. What we can do is live despite it, and do the art you love with all your emotions…

No. 2580253

>>2580224
>There’s no way this thread has infights every single day.
Literally just summerfags doing what they do, I cannot believe any of these people use LC for more than a couple weeks per year and look at boards besides /ot/. You can tell because usually the normal insights are about art related topics and not random fucking derailing bullshit like it has been coincidentally when schools out or almost out.
>>2579967
Is this something you've been sent or on the profile of someone who sent you something? If I find a client annoying and overly friendly I'll pull a "I have a low social battery and anxiety you're literally twiggering me!!!" Don't know if that's something you'd want to stoop to nor has this been tested out on uber autists.

No. 2580311

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The Redditsexuals are fighting

No. 2580314

>>2579777
It still depresses me that the creator of this comic trooned out.

No. 2580316

>>2579591
Would probably just be easier to block the guys that follow you, you can also block and unblock to simply dislodge yourself from their following list. Otherwise things to consider
>pose the female figures with attractive men
>use a more realistic art style with strong emphasis on backgrounds
>sexualized body parts should take up no more than 30% of the composition
>draw/post boring things like still lifes and what you ate that day

No. 2580349

>>2579940
I agree with the point about the faces being cropped out in the earlier image. That and the fact that the women look like twins and have the same kind of "cherubic" face.
Women seem to like detailed, expressive, unique faces more than men, who prefer having more generic or minimized faces (hence coomer art styles typically having super-detailed bodies and tiny heads with cartoony faces). Men also like more childlike features on women (gross), whereas women who like women seem to prefer more mature features (not speaking for straight women, some seem to want to project on tiny cherubic women, but just speaking from a f/f perspective). Though anon might think having unique facial features are too TIF-y lol, having adult-looking and well-characterized faces in focus is something men tend to find offputting.

No. 2580367

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Not sure if it's the correct thread for this kind of question but is there any way to write female loser NEET character that won't attract the "she's literally me fr" crowd, troons and coomers? I don't plan to make super realistic webcomic story, it will be slightly Watamote inspired but with adult characters

No. 2580376

>>2580367
Have the character absolutely loathe troons. Or if you want to be more stealth about it, hide it behind "modern ideals" or something like that.

No. 2580383

>>2580367
Coomers will show up if the character is attractive to them. You can kinda sorta control this to an extent depending on the design and styling. Like have her dress very bland and she's into yaoi or something.

No. 2580387

>>2580367
I feel like the writing thread might be better for this, as there would be more anons that would be able to give you good advice and also to avoid sitting through another four hour infight.

No. 2580391

>>2580367
Maybe this is dumb but give her some traditionally feminine interests? Whenever I see those coomer NEET female characters she always has nerdy moid interests. Which I have too kek but maybe give her some feminine ones.

No. 2580393

>>2580367
Maybe making her gnc would scare them off

No. 2580396

>>2579547
ngl the right is ugly but it's drawn really well. >>2579561 this edit is the best version

No. 2580397

>>2580367
short answer: no
you will attract a lot of women too though.

No. 2580400

>>2579777
Thank fuck this was spoilered, nearly threw up in my mouth before I could cover it back up again

No. 2580402

>>2580391
Really good point.

No. 2580437

>>2580367
no, the "she's literally me" crowd latches onto anything, random designs, pictures, memes, and shows and books they havent even read. And trannies/coomers go after simple tropes and anything female without development or characters thats are just quirky enough or if they have something in common with them
can i ask whats the point of your question?

No. 2580438

>>2580367
There's no totally foolproof way to do that just in writing, you'd be better off heavily shittalking men who reply to you. Don't use overdone archetype signifiers (men who are into neets are moreso into a certain "vibe" and stereotypical look). Hard to explain but look up "femcel" on pinterest or tumblr, and avoid fitting in with that aesthetic.
Tell us more about the character.

No. 2580441

>>2580400
Why? The sex is beyond inoffensive.

No. 2580451


No. 2580477

>>2579547
tranny squidward

No. 2580479

>>2580451
Why suggest the dead dupe thread and not the actual one? >>231750

No. 2580487

>>2580349
Is it weird to prefer more simplified and "cute" faces as a (non-straight) woman? I prefer it for male characters too.

No. 2580490

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>>2580441
NTA. Some of us are extremely prudish and/or straight, please understand.
>>2580487
I don't see why that would be weird, especially if you also like more cartoony or simplified art styles. No need to get neurotic about stylistic preferences.

No. 2580494

>>2578424
I always hated these boring ultra simple examples. Id prefer to see people take existing character designs and make annotations about it's shape language

No. 2580554

>>2580367
Her nerdy interests are collecting husbando merch and studying biology. That should at least keep the troons away.

No. 2580557

>>2580311
Why not just call them straight? It’s what they are. The aidens and fujos will stop pestering you for representation if you just stop baiting them with your “queer” shit.

No. 2580558

>>2579510
Man I miss the Holly thread KEK. Brujo's feels like her spiritual successor in terms of art regression but her milk isn't half as entertaining.

No. 2580576

There's an artist I hate purely because of some spiteful reason. Their art isn't bad at all, just purely mediocre. But holy shit every time I see it I want to go on a fucking rampage because I hate fat OCs KEK
>>2580479
Because I am an illustrator and not a writer; I don't go on threads I have nothing to contribute towards.

No. 2580592

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>Looking through Art Fight characters.
>Saw this cute little cat-fish creature.
>Wanted to know more.
>Immediately assaulted with tits.
>Sobs into hands.

No. 2580629

>>2580576
>fat OCs
So you want everyone to be skellie basically?

No. 2580633

>>2580629
Loving your
>You like waffles so you must hate pancakes
approach. Let me clarify; no. I prefer chubby over spherically obese, borderline blueberry fetish.

No. 2580703

>>2580576
Is this twitter or some other platform where you can block them get on with your day? I don't get being annoyed with a specific artist when it's never been easier to avoid them outside places like close-knit discord servers where you have too many mutuals to be able to discretely mute/block. I do have a few personal art cows that fall under the latter category, my only solace is that I have an art friend I can bitch about them to kek

No. 2580713

>>2580592
nothing wrong with big tits on a character but why does she have minecraft cube tits kek

No. 2580736

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>>2580703
>Is this twitter or some other platform where you can block them get on with your day? I don't get being annoyed with a specific artist when it's never been easier to avoid them outside places like close-knit discord servers where you have too many mutuals to be able to discretely mute/block.
Yes. And normally I do! But unfortunately I am weirdly addicted to hating on this individual. Still trying to clock if TIF or stinky moid and I can't stop checking. I usually bitch to a friend about them too but they keep saying
>Please do yourself a fucking favor and forget they exist ffs
kek,

No. 2580758

>>2580592
I get the feeling this is one of those closed species ocs.

No. 2580760

>>2578695
NTA but the "overdesign" is easy to avoid, as I'm very sure Genshin and other gachas do it on purpose to make the character look expensive. It's different if it's something ornamental and decorative, but excessive on a story-backed character.

Detailed or simple, the design of a character should serve to tell their story, either their own or the world around them. The Genshin and similar gacha designs don't do that; they're designed to rob an addict's wallet.

No. 2580763

>>2580576
Did you reply to the wrong post because I could not write a more nonsensical answer if I tried.
>why did you link to a obviously defunct thread no one has ever used?
>because I'm an illustrator teehee

No. 2580764

>>2580763
Nah. I was saying I linked to the wrong thread because I put minimal effort into finding the right one. Literally
>writer thread go brr

No. 2580775

>>2580736
Ah, as much as I hated the transvestigating in the older artist salt threads, I admit that I'm addicted to doing it with users I come across in the wild. If only I knew you personally nonnie, I'd love to waste time transvestigating them with you, all my art friends are TRAs, so I have to keep that to myself kek

No. 2580786

>>2580775
>transvestigating
Agreed. It's kinda annoying ITT but individually just sitting down and spending an hour speculating if they're LARPING in one direction or another is so fucking funny.

No. 2580822

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>>2580736
god I’m the same, but probably more of pathetic about it. For whatever reason an artist and fic writer who I really admired who is a tif but honestly I loved her art too much to care became best friends with another tif with an artstyle comparable to that of a literal ten year old despite being in her mid 20s and a very outwardly spedtard tier way of writing the characters from the fandom they were in and I watched as she parasitically sucked away at everything that made the admirable artist so great- her letting her insert her shitty writing and headcanons into all her subsequent work and her artstyle plummeting to boring tasteless shit despite it so unique and inspiring before. She fucked off and barely posts anymore but I’m addicted to checking on her friend to see whatever new shit she has to pump out and seethe about it. I’ve been doing it for a couple years at this point and have speeded about it at great lengths on this site before. I also wish I could stop but I’m still too autistic about the characters she ruined

No. 2580854

I kinda miss twisted disaster chan. Where is our kind TD nona? I feel an absence in our last thread and hope she's OK lol.

No. 2580880

>>2580822
Your sign to be the person with the artstyle comparable to that of a 10 year old doing the befriending in the future kek. A lot of fandom artists and writers don't care about skill level, they just want someone to regularly share ideas with. It doesn't evem matter what size their following is, if you see an artist who is not interacting much with mutuals they're very likely not talking to anyone in that community.

No. 2580909

>>2580880
the reasonable part of me knows that but unfortunately I’m too mentally ill and hating this person is a literal addiction. I was even back and forthing on the compulsion to jump at the opportunity to sperg about her in this thread but ultimately caved, but honestly i’m kind of thankful it’s not being met with enablement

No. 2580920

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>>2580822
ayrt this literally sums up how I view the interaction between punipunchu and mcsiggles back in the Homestuck days KEK
Granted, McSiggy is boring as shit after you see her struggling with whatever for the umpteenth time and I dropped off back in 2018.

No. 2580980

>>2580758
you're right, its a species called succubuns https://succubuns.com

No. 2580982

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This moku person has been making weird somewhat schizo vagueposts for a day and it seems like this was the reason kek, has anyone else been seeing this? She was straight up tweeting “I win hehe” to her 13k+ followers

No. 2580986

>>2580920
>punipunchu
I was so obsessed with her rusame works omfg

No. 2580991

>>2579615
Sorry but it's impossible to not appeal to men, even if you draw yaoi gay moids will still follow you, men will masturbate to anything

No. 2581005

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>>2580991
This needs to be beaten into anons' heads as has been done itt however it should be said that you should not let that unfortunate fact hold you back. You need to be secure in yourself and your work, you let moids win if it stops you from making things. Anons are telling you this because if your methods of warding them off doesn't work or backfires you'll be at the very least be incredibly upset by it.

No. 2581042

>>2580991
Nah, fags had to make their own version of yaoi(barashit) because they got filtered by light sabers and sparkly bishies. It's kinda funny how both pickmes and straight moids consider the same type of women attractive meanwhile fujos and fags taste differ so much. Men really hate pretty men, they like bloated hairy corpses with monkey faces.

No. 2581051

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>>2580982
it’s a shame that this reply got reported kek

No. 2581081

>>2579489
i use to lurk on ic but i was always upset, there wasnt any deep discussion about art as seen thought the lenses of fandom culture and critique of gendie stuff

No. 2581082

>>2581051
>>2580982
What could this possibly be about kek

No. 2581084

>>2580760
What if I'm not the biggest fan of plain things but also hate drawing overly detailed slop? What If i'm in the middle when it comes to this? It's not that either side is bad, but it seems like both see their point as objectively good while the other is objectively bad. There's never a 3rd option. You either go do this or don't bother. I'm a huge fashion lover and nothing pisses me off more than piss simple coomer designs where the girl is in bikini and shorts or a outfit that exist solely to show skin and nothing else. There can be iconic fits made from this approach but most of the ones I've seen always came off as underwhelming like a wet fart or a dry cough.

No. 2581089

>>2581082
she is convinced this memi girl accused her on being trans and that broke her and now is actively stalking her, has a whole Instagram highlight dedicated to this autistic girl when she has twice the following

No. 2581107

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>>2580982
funny that she accused that girl of being a pedophile despite shipping herself with the shotabait character from dungeon meshi lol

No. 2581121

>>2581042
I used to go to myreadingmanga way back and logged on recently. It's infested with bara shit and american comic book style BL. it's honestly disgusting.

No. 2581131

>>2581121
I will never forgive MRM for comment banning me because I told a troon translator to stop putting pics of his disgusting micro dick at the end of chapters.

No. 2581133

>>2581131
those bastards comment banned me too. I'm still trying to figure out why, but MRM has gone downhill in the last few years and i severely blame the shift from eastern BL/Yaoi to western garbage ruining it.

No. 2581179

>>2581133
I remember reading stuff on there and seeing shitass TIFs thinking that some monster alien was "me for real". That site is in the dumps yeah. There ARE still uploads of nonwestern, nonbarashit. I haven't been on there as often after that one zombie comic concluded though. Some western comics have decent styles. Some.

No. 2581198

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>>2581051
>>2581082
>>2581107
I’ve been following moku for a while now and holy kekk just realized memi is the same person who went on a based terf rant, she said “what is a woman guys” with a followerbase filled with gendies in this digital art community which caused moku to have a meltie. What a legend honestly

No. 2581205

>>2581198
Meo clearly full of self hate and swinging at kindness kek
This is some wild shit.

No. 2581206

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>>2581198
Please tell me someone else witnessed this last year kekk it was so funny watching it unfold

No. 2581208

>>2581206
nta Every troon that ruined Homestuck coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches KEK

No. 2581209

>>2581198
She's right though. Trannies are self hating retards that still hate themselves after they mutilate. They really hate hearing the truth. 41% really needs to be closer to 100%

No. 2581213

>>2581208
It really is a sight to behold. Like, wheres the rule that you have to be a troon faggot in order to like Homestuck? kek

No. 2581222

>>2581198
I'm reading her page and this girl is kinda funny, her posting style reminds me a bit of earlier twitter

No. 2581238

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>>2581222
I absolutely cackled

No. 2581248

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>>2581206
maybe i think this way to hype myself up or cope with the loneliness of being gc in a gendie fandom, but there's something so powerful about being a terf and consuming… even enjoying! content by gendies. my main fandom is a webseries with a HUGE gendie fandom, like it's expected for you to become a person of gender after being in a while (which is so fucking sad!) and some fans eventually went to work on the webseries, soooo many of them gendies, eventually adding their poison in the content (which is so fucking bittersweet!). it reminds me of homestuck in that context, so i kind of see myself in that girl. and of course there's the constant overflowing stream of trans gcs and fanart and memes and it's all so fucking tiring… but at the end of the day i think it's kinda funny i can enjoy their shit, make silly little fanart (that doesn't get any attention because it isn't coated in thirty layers of poorly designed pride flags) and just pretend to go along with the tq+ stuff, meanwhile these pussies would absolutely explode if a friend or idol of theirs liked a microsecond of a harry potter movie, how ironic!
as for why i'm still here when the creators would probably hate me, idk i've made friendships that have lasted years because of that, and things that you get into during middle school stick with you forever.

No. 2581249

>>2581042
When I was a teen I had a male fag friend who was into yaoi and otome games,they do exist

No. 2581271

>>2581248
I like the way you type. It is very strange.

No. 2581275

Every mediocre at best OC artist thinks their OC is sO uNiqUe and different. This has always been a think but the quirky arrogant posting style of so many artists these days is utterly insufferable. No one gives a shit about your OCs, post them (if you must) and move along.

No. 2581278

>>2581271
>>2581248
She's very cute in a way. Thank you for your thoughts, Snoopy nona

No. 2581314

>>2581275
ngl, you gave me good reason to only original art. I really don't like the press let alone spergs who get mad you drew their husbando wrong kek.

No. 2581325

>>2581314
Ayrt I love OC art and I encourage you to post it! Its what I mostly look at because I dont watch anything recent or anything that really has active fandoms. What I dont like is those shitty OC artists who act like their poorly drawn uninteresting OCs and the artists shitty arrogant personality are a gift to someone. A shitty personality and an annoying OC takes a lot from an artist imo

No. 2581327

>>2581248
Felt good to read this and know i'm not alone, except i don't play along with their stuff i'm just crypto and edgy sometimes.

No. 2581329

>>2581238
Why are you selfposting

No. 2581357

I don't want to make a twitter but it seems like it's what I'm going to have to do.

No. 2581637

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I made a new account on twitter for posting art of a very popular series, have been posting good art of a very popular character under popular tags but i still seem to have absolutely no reach at all. Hat am i doing wrong?? The amount of growth I'm not having feels unnatural,i haven't even broken 5 followers and its like people don't see what i post even under popular tags?
I even had a interaction with a popular artist that would've put my post on her followers' feed, but nothing lmao
I try to be active and comment on other peoples' posts which get a little interaction, but alas
What am i doing wrong here nonnies please save me!! Is it twitter? Or me?

No. 2581640

>>2581637
I think twitter is testing new accounts if they're bots or not

No. 2581708

>>2581329
Nona don't be schizo. I am not selfposting. Why would you even jump to that conclusion?
>>2581640
nta This. I had made my Twitter account earlier this year and it was definitely being sabotaged by the site itself. 6 months in and I have some posts with over 1k retweets. It's likely to shill their checkmark nonsensen.

No. 2581742

>>2581708
nta but because of the profile picture? not saying is you
but idk what retarded attention whore would use elsie as their profile pic though even if they changed it

No. 2581778

>>2581742
Holy shit I didn't realize that was Elsie. Selfposting implies it was me though I don't know how else I was to interpret it…
But real talk nonas, which one of you was actively harassing moku KEK
I was about to follow the memi account when the other nona >>2581222 mentioned it was like early twitter posting. But then I checked the follower count and I'd probably be seen as a TERF

No. 2581799

>>2581708
Yeah, if you start retweeting other people's stuff, twitter should send you a message in a week, it was mentioned in one of artist salt threads

No. 2581817

>>2581005
i agree, im not gonna let hypothetical moids stop me from having a good time, they do that irl but my art is mine, im not gonna give them that headspace + i dont like bl, fujos or drawing moids at all

No. 2581818

>>2581637
Probably because there are a lot of people posting art of the series, so your stuff unfortunately gets lost in the sea of other people’s art

No. 2581822

>>2581799
>Yeah, if you start retweeting other people's stuff, twitter should send you a message in a week
A message about what? What does this mean

No. 2581823

>>2581275
i only follow people for their oc content nowadays cause most fanart is either lame twitter memes, derivative pinterest art or gendie butchering. most ocs are lame and derivative but as long as the artist knows their shit instead of just posting character sheets full of flags and useless facts, you can have a good time browsing.

No. 2581825

>>2581822
that you're no longer shadowbanned

No. 2581829

>>2581825
I thought shadowbanning was a rumor and not something that social media sites actually notified you of?

No. 2581851

>>2581829
No it's definitely for real, though the point is that they don't notify you. Usually they try to play it off as just random glitchiness, and when they do admit shadowbanning is real they often claim it's only meant for bot accounts and any human who gets shadowbanned has been the victim of an unfortunate error. Anyone talking about how shadowbans are used deliberately to silence legitimate users is smeared as a conspiracy theorist. Alternatively some have admitted they use shadowbans against perceived "trolls" and otherwise "harmful" users, and if you complain then you must be a troll too.

IDK about twitter's implementation but shadowbanning is verifiable on reddit and tumblr. New reddit accounts start out shadowbanned a lot (probably to do with whether they like your email domain (anything not gmail must be a throwaway for a spammer, right?) and your past account history), so if you post something and check it while logged in, it will look normal, but if you log out and check, the comment isn't there. If you message the subreddit mods (and they're decent, competent people), they'll usually tell you outright that your account is shadowbanned sitewide and manually approve your comment. On tumblr, users who are shadowbanned can't send messages or mention other users, and their comments and asks aren't received, and their blogs don't show up in searches, and when they interact with any post they don't show up in the notes, and their original posts won't show up on their follower's dashboards.

No. 2581899

>>2581851
nta Yeah, my friend tested it and said my account had no posts when seeing it from their side on Twitter.
On Tumblr I got shadowbanned for tagging a picture as crossdressing, and a friend of mine (different) was rambling about getting shadowbanned for talking in excess about her BL ship.

No. 2581909

>>2581851
I hate when Instagram users complain about people liking too many of their art posts because they think they’ll get shadowbanned for it. Petty and ungrateful

No. 2581916

>>2581248
This is so true. It's just the more healthy thing to do. Like sure i could restrict my social circle by 99% because people are stupid, but that ends up just stifling my enjoyment. Just curious, what fandom are you in? for me it's deltarune which is embarrassing as hell because the fandom is majority kids but there are some chill adults

No. 2581946

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Tried to look up RCDart, and found their locked resume thing. I wanted to see if there was any change in art style over the years, but kind of curious if something happened to her (?) irl.

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>>2581946
samefag Inspired by this post I'd seen on her KYM entry. I actually never looked into RDCart beyond the initial Captain America thing.

No. 2581955

>>2581946
the girl with the cap and maybe the crocodile are the only ones that arent ugly as fuck, amazing its like she made an effort to make them bad

No. 2581961

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>>2581198
I don't really get what the drama is but this girl seems kind of insane to me and this other acct >>2581238 is using an Elsie profile picture from here >>>/m/248479 (which she changed after it was called out) so … yeah it seems like someone's selfposting lol. Not that the other girl isn't retarded too I just think that they might all be retarded

No. 2581973

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>>2581961
>(which she changed after it was called out) so … yeah it seems like someone's selfposting lol.
I found this person's quote in picrel so I have no idea how old it is. Whether or not it was changed after being called out here or on moku's post is beyond me. I'm not going to identityfag to show it wasn't me selfposting, but believe what you will.

No. 2581979

Does anyone remember the old art confessions/art gossip tumblrs? Places like artists-confessions, artist-gossip, etc… A few of them closed down because some people went on a crusade against them because they saw it as bullying (which some of the posts were but there was also a lot of other posts that were actually milk) and others just… died from inactivity. They were my daily source of drama for awhile.

No. 2581987

Hate-watching this fucking scrote's stream again. Dude bashes on anime so hard. It's fine, it's fine. I don't care much. But seeing him try to grift is so fucking funny. He's heavily reliant on references and that's fine I don't see that as being an issue. But man, it's wild how much he harps on and on about it.

No. 2582007

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>>2581997
And the other nonas thought I was you huh.

No. 2582017

Twisted Disaster did another video and even though she started out fine, she still ends ups saying something dumb and even delusional in her case. For starters, it's so annoying how she says that the world is currently on fire. She's been saying this a lot recently, more than likely because she kept hearing it from her retarded zoomer friends or is just spending too much time on Twitter but nonetheless, I can't stand when westerner people say this because it's just tone deaf and not true. I'd understand if she lived in a place like Iran where things really are unstable and scary because of the war but no. Granted she did have the California fires but even according to her, her area wasn't affected by it as she didn't have to evacuate at all so I mean, I just can't help but feel like she's just being an overly dramatic dumbass.


As the video kept going, she talks about AI and her take, while not anything special, was okay but then she sprinkled in some delusion. She talked about how frustrated she gets when she talks to people around her age or older about what she does for work which is "being an artist" and how these people don't tend to take her seriously and would say things like how it's good that her husband has a real job to bring stable income into their household and she says that she's been doing freelance art for a decade and has been making enough money to cover her bills and to that, I call bullshit as someone who does listen to her streams from time to time.
I don't deny that she probably has been able to make enough to cover things like her phone, internet, and insurance but let's be real, if her husband didn't have a decent high(er) paying job, there's no way her art would cover her expenses to where she'd be living as comfortably as she does. She lives in southern California near Los Angeles and I know the rising costs of living there is ridiculous, even she's complained about that a good few times.

Anyway, I just think it's pathetic that even after all this time, she still feels the need to lie about the reality of things in her life. If her art really was able to cover all her costs consistently, she wouldn't be trying to find an actual stabler job which there's no shame in but seriously, just own it, it's fine. Most of us are doing just that working a conventional job while doing art on the side. I think she just has insecurity because her siblings actually got real jobs and are doing quite well for themselves as I think she said her brother went to law school and her other brother works a conventional job that he's moved up in and they make enough money and more to have a stable lifestyle, at least much more stable than her own and I can understand feeling a little insecure there but flat out delusion isn't the way to go.

That aside, you get to see her abuse the symmetry even more so er, enjoy? kek.

No. 2582033

>>2581829
I recently made an account for a fandom and had this happen. I liked some posts and made a couple of comments, and it let me loose after a few days. The message said something along the lines of "Good to Go" and explained how new accounts start out restricted.
It's absolutely part bot-sniffing, part shilling. Funny when you realize a lot of bot accounts have the checkmark…

No. 2582036

>>2582007
what was the post?

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No. 2582041

>>2581979
I miss them. Though I look forward to binge reading Artfight Confessions after the event is over.

No. 2582042

>>2582038
i hate these newfags
she really felt the need to announce herself based on a couple posts kek

No. 2582051

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>>2581979
Just like you, I used to read them daily especially if they were about an artist I knew, likes and dislikes aside.
Sadly, like you said, most of these have either been deleted or have been taken over and all their posts wiped, supposedly to stop the bullies and such. A shame, since they serve as a time capsule of that time imo.


https://kawaiiartistconfessions.tumblr.com/

https://kawaii-history.tumblr.com/

No. 2582061

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>>2582038
>Jungle theme
picrel
>>2581973
My bad for thinking it was you nonna, I understand now. This current generation is so scary, they're such massive faggots

No. 2582069

>>2582061
>your picrel
ayrt x2 We are all monke here. Chimpe, even. I do not hold it against you. They scare me too kek

No. 2582081

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>>2582038
>>2581973
God everyone involved is a retarded faggot. At most optimistic this memi chick is a bippie kiwifag.

No. 2582099

>>2582081
sucks that edgy retards constantly try to pass as terfs (did she claim being a terf or is she just shitposting about everything?) because they talk shit about trannies like they do any other group or situation
i dont think a kiwifag would actively harass and interact directly with a cow tbh even if they make fun of them
did she say where she got the discord screenshots from? i wouldnt even trust whoever got those, what were they doing on racist twansphobic discords?

No. 2582119

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>>2582051
That art style really was a plague though I think it looks cute when done well. It sucks that so many of the prominent artists dropped off the map tbh I wonder what their current art looks like.

No. 2582133

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>>2582099
She did say she was a TERF, I can't be arsed to log back in and get caps. My thoughts exactly about the discord screenshots (picrel). 505core didn't say where she got them.
>i dont think a kiwifag would actively harass and interact directly with a cow tbh even if they make fun of them
That's exactly what White Glove did, I don't think it's far fetched others have done and do that.

No. 2582213

>>2582119
Oh shit I loved that (face) style as a kid. I didn't know it got as popular as it seems to've. Either that or my retarded ass thought it was all by one person kek

No. 2582228

>>2581947
A lot of people are also missing the context that the most infamous Rob Liefield drawings were made when he was 18 and freshly hired. Impressive he managed to get a job straight up at 18, but frankly very few people are fully skilled until 24-26

No. 2582236

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>>2582228
Idk nonnie, even in that page they posted the feet still look retarded to me. Maybe I just hate his style

No. 2582724

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They just added a free search function to Art Fight.

No. 2582744

Is there a tag for artfight this year? I want to attack nonnies

No. 2582749

>>2582744
someone take her out back

No. 2582752

>>2582744
Nice try but Not this time, always remember nonas what happened last time

No. 2582755

does AF ban 4chan users too or just the evil lc terfs

No. 2582756

>>2582755
only women because its run by misogynistic trannies

No. 2582757

>>2582756
Figures.

No. 2582792

>>2582755
4channers also participate?

No. 2582804

>>2582792
Yes they had a thread where they shared their profile links.

No. 2582806

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>>2582792
Nta but there's a 4chan tag on Art Fight that has a good handful of characters in it, though it's more likely made up of characters that are labelled as 4channers because it's le dark and edgy rather than because it's characters made by actual chan users.
They seem to at least tolerate the existence of 4chan being mentioned on the site because I imagine if you made a character and said that she uses lc it would very likely get you banned for twansphobia

No. 2582817

just report 4channers who use art fight as being part of the racist internet hate machine website, they'll get banned too kek

No. 2583083

im so excited for art fight but i kind of wish i could attack other nonnas instead of random kids and gendies

No. 2583100

>>2583083
If you look hard enough, you can find adults with no pronouns (or even the word “female”) in bio

No. 2583101

>>2582806
the way underages romaticize 4chan is so odd to me like can we just be honest and admit it was always edgy anonymous reddit

No. 2583172

>>2582817
We tried. Artfight mods don't even ban diaper fetishists or obvious eight year olds because they're lazy fucks.
>>2583101
4chan and Reddit used to be on a similar level of edginess prior it being corporatised. I think it's more apt to say it is a regular Anglo image board with a moid majority userbase, it just happened to be the biggest one with a lot of splinter groups and captured very specific eras and groups of the internet. The whole "image boards are so freaking edgy and evil!!" thing is such a weird hold over.

No. 2583272

Can I still gain followers on a Twit account that I've had for a while but is dead? Or should I make a new one?
Same with Insta, will the algorithm punish me for reviving an old account?
I'm not looking to market for money just want an online art friend group and I always feel humiliated and lame starting a fresh account from zero.

No. 2583278

>>2583272
>Can I still gain followers on a Twit account that I've had for a while but is dead? Or should I make a new one?
Old account is better. New accounts are shadowbanned. I recommend scrolling up ITT to find out how other nonas have reviewed alternative sites for posting art.

No. 2583280

>>2583172
>Artfight mods don't even ban diaper fetishists or obvious eight year olds
That's a concerning combination

No. 2583287

>>2581946
She probably just failed into break into the industry after acting like a retard in college

No. 2583288

>>2581637
>have been posting good art of a very popular character under popular tags
You need to be a little more niche. Start off with something that has a super dedicated autistic cult following instead of whatever popular thing is the FOTM

No. 2583290

>>2583287
I recall her resume/cv had listed that she worked on an animated commercial. Besides beanmouth slop or viral indie cartoons it seems like the only animation jobs are for medical advertisements

No. 2583292

>>2583288
and it's better to get into a popular series before it gets an anime announcement or right when a movie comes out

No. 2583303

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>>2581198
>>2581206
Kek I remember this. Also
>How do you like homestuck but ur a TERF?
Do these retards not realize that a lot of people read Homestuck back before it and the fandom became infested with gender nonsense? Some of these Xitter users probably weren't even born yet when the comic began. With the exception of Davepeta, who only appears for a little bit at the very end, gendershit is totally absent before the epilogues. It's very easy to read and enjoy Homestuck on its own (not the epilogues, not the sequel, and not the dating sim slop) as someone who doesn't subscribe to gender ideology. Meanwhile these children shit their diapers when Karkat says retard or John calls Bro white.

No. 2583307

>>2582228
No, his art still sucked for quite a long time after that, trust.

No. 2583415

>>2583303
There are/were multiple terfs on the Hiveswap team.

No. 2583458

>>2583415
Elaborate (unless you don’t want to reveal their identities)

No. 2583540

>>2579902
sameeee. theres an artist who i used to follow obsessively because i loved her art style but she dropped them and got a new persona and has been doing sakimichan esque paintings lately. ive been wanting to steal her art style for years now but i thought it was weird… but your comment made me think that its probably normal.

No. 2583622

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I need a second opinion on this nonnas, sometimes i draw sfw artworks and other times i draw more nsfw stuff (nothing too explicit, just spicy) but most of my followers followed for the sfw stuff, and i've been posting more and more spicy content, should i just create a new account to post nsfw stuff separately or continue with the same account and just post whatever i like? I'm torn apart because i don't have many followers on my main already, so growing followers on a secondary account would be a chore.

No. 2583704

>>2583622
Depends on the goal. If your spicy stuff is BL, I would recommend making a second account. There's been some weird children online (assuming they're kids) harassing people for drawing BL. Everything else it would depend on if you're trying to get views and association to your spicy content. It may attract an unwanted audience like how some nonas ITT hate moid followers. That would warrant a second account where you can post to your heart's content without fear of the unwanted attention (selective viewership). If you want to post for the numbers, I say just continue as you are.

No. 2583777

>>2583458
ipgd/V/ctset are the same person and she is a terf. The gendie troll in Hiveswap really pissed her off because it was her design kek. She eventually got kicked off the team for being a controlling asshole and never getting over being friendzoned by Hussie.

No. 2583922

>>2583622
In my opinion, you should keep it all on one account, just because I think it's kind of based when artists are bold enough to have their nsfw and sfw accounts on the same page. But like >>2583704 said, a second account can be nice if you care about that sort of thing. Ultimately though I think it's cool haha.

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nonas, tumblr nona from last week here. i kinda followed what you all suggested (being more social by reblogging some stuff on the fandom i'm into, being more careful with the tag placement, etc etc). posting on Sundays boosts posts a lot too! and making a fresh post is better than reblog as well. i'd appreciate more tips to conquer this beast though!

No. 2584075

>>2581206
does anyone know what her art looked like

No. 2584080

>>2581916
>>2581248
how do you deal with that though? there's no way they don't shit on terfs, women in general, suck troon dick, general male worship, etc. do you really enjoy that atmosphere? i was crypto for like ten years and it was fucking miserable lol. made some friends and it was miserable being around they/thems and he/theys and other tras obsessed with controlling how you speak about them and interact with media…it was a cucked mindset and i'm glad i'm free now, i hope you both find normal people to interact with

No. 2584091

>>2584080
I'm feeling this way too. I just want normal artist friends that aren't gendies. I'm very lonely and every discord server I find is plagued with them.

No. 2584151

>>2584091
is it possible to set up a discord channel for /ot/s? like the friend finder thread?

No. 2584168

>>2584151
I wish we could, I’d join. I really want new art friends but i have no idea how to find servers without weirdos. But even if we did make a server, there are lurkers here who would ruin it

No. 2584189

>>2584168
maybe we could do kinda like a terrorist art cell lmao. someone creates the channel, but members are only accepted if another member has given a referral. we could use something based on the friendfinder thread, giving dc usernames, add them as friends, chat for a bit to see if they are /ot/s and then refer to the channel admin. is this too complicated? maybe i guess.

No. 2584201

>>2584189
it's completely ridiculous that rfs have to jump thru hoops like this. like it's easier for racists and pedophiles to connect over shared hobbies than it is women who admit sex is binary. holy shit what a clown world

No. 2584207

>>2584201
tbh, i don't mind the loops, i rather be on something more private where people are good with gatekeeping a space than having a free for all. popular spaces suck because they are popular, where everybody thinks they are entitled to belong there.

No. 2584211

>>2584151
>>2584189
If we did, I'd love to join any kind of server or something if there was a way to keep other people out. I want to actually talk about art without being bombarded by troonshit every day.

No. 2584214

One of the things I miss about these threads is the milk from Artist Youtubers like Baylee and Waffles. I assumed their milk have dried up but it's weird there's no new milky artists around anymore (or nonnas just stopped caring about it).

Speaking of an old cow, Kasey Golden is now having some kind of quarter-life crisis(?) and starting a year ago getting face piercings and a shitload of tattoos.

No. 2584295

>>2584214
I still can't get over her painting with blood, then making a fake post claiming she's painting with urine in her next video only to be like, "haha it's dyed water you nasties! Did you seriously think i would paint with pee" As if she didn't make a previous video painting with her bodily fluids. She definitely was upset that people found her blood video disgusting

No. 2584366

>>2584295
Kinda unrelated but this post reminded me of this girl on deviantart back in like 2013-2015ish who would post vent art self portraits painted with her own self harm blood all the time. She had long black hair and blunt bangs and was kinda chubby and (obviously) had a lot of sh scars. I wish i remembered her username because even over 10 years later i still remember her works… If anybody remembers lmk

No. 2584370

>>2584189
Alternative idea. We have an entry requirement
>draw Elsie in your honest style and put up a certain hand sign next to your screen or drawing
>take a photo
that way TIMs can't ever possibly pass into it, and any TIFs in there have to do something fucky in order to get in, which will hurt their credibility.

No. 2584374

>>2584214
I mean, our beloved Twisted Disaster nona just posted not too long ago. >>2582017 ,
there was the whole moku thing >>2581973 , and I had mentioned RDCart ITT. Nobody's doing anything exceptionally milky afaik.

No. 2584396

>>2584370
I like this idea. even though I have seen so many LC dickswords come and go. or more accurately explode. We could congregate somewhere on the site other than this thread too like the moovie room, and share contacts

No. 2584439

>>2584201
>it's easier for racists and pedophiles to connect over shared hobbies than it is women who admit sex is binary
Honestly what’s stopping us from creating a discord exactly? I’ve seen lolicon servers get banned because they had channels dedicated to posting porn, some of it was loli and that’s against discord rules. Afaik there are no rules on discord that’s against having terf views right? All you have to do is just follow the rules and the server should be fine.
Are people just afraid of being discovered and getting cancelled on social media? I’ve said it countless times here before, but cancellations don’t do jack shit. The most people could do is send anon hate and have a bunch of tifs block you, people will forget and move on very fast. I can understand if you’re a famous artist in the industry, or hoping to break it into the industry which would blacklist you.
Maybe nonas can just use aliases when using discord so you don’t have to link to your social media accounts if you’re worried about that, and just DM your socmed usernames to other nonas who you’ve grown close with and trust. I also like the idea
>>2584370
mentioned, posting your hand and a drawing is a good way of getting obvious moids out. I know of another anonymous female only board that also made people post their hands as proof kek

No. 2584443

>>2584214
I already miss the juby and genice drama. I’m hoping it can revive a bit when genice finally decides to publish her Eden’s gate (or garden) project so we can watch juby go on another bpd meltdown kek

No. 2584444

>>2584439
The problem isn’t getting banned on discord but being flooded by trolls and larping moids and troons who ruin it for everyone else

No. 2584459

>>2584439
Misgendering is literally against Discord's TOS.

No. 2584463

if there's any chance of the discord actually being made, is it going to be art focused or just an lc server?

No. 2584470

>>2584463
Check the thread name.

No. 2584476

>>2584463
Has there ever been a LC discord server in this site's history that didn't completely end in disaster? I don't think this would be a good idea

No. 2584482

>>2584476
no, but i think being art related might mitigate the insanity and infight a bit

No. 2584483

>>2584476
nta Fair. We could just happen to stumble across a freshly made AFAB-Only server that mysteriously only has cis women in it that draw.

No. 2584484

>>2584476
it's going to be invaded by a gendie and immediately every artist inside of it will be exposed for being a terf

No. 2584491

>>2584484
maybe sage your posts talking about this nona..

No. 2584492

>>2584482
Honestly wouldn't that just do the opposite effect? It could possibly go either two ways, hugbox where theres hesitance to criticize or speak against another nona's art in fear of getting retribution for your work or hurting each others feelings, or crab bucket where everyone is out to get one another or a specific person in the server. This is based off patterns I saw in previous LC discords, the removal of anonymity in a discord inevitably leads to drama and animosity between members in the server. I don't see why nonas can't use the general art threads here when moids are unbothered about using /vg/ or /ic/ for advice on how to create their media. Makes me wish CC wasn't the way it is so women can be linked back to a niche imageboard rather than a less niche drama centric imageboard known for its open anti-troon rhetoric

No. 2584499

>>2584370
this sounds good nona, i agree. let's keep on chatting here until we all agree how to set things up.

No. 2584500

>>2584499
pls pls sage i dont want the hidden troons magnetized to this

No. 2584504

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>>2584500
10-4 10-4 nona

No. 2584508

>>2584492
i just want a board to post art, learn, critique and chat. gossip art content already has a home here. by using discord instead of lc people can feel free-er to talk about their creations and improve (all depending on how the nonas behave though)

No. 2584511

>>2584492
yeah maybe
also, now that i think about it, there's definitely tranny cocksuckers on lc that stay here on any thread to get dirt on whoever they dislike but jump at any opportunity to shit on a "terf" site and keep their woke points while shitting on people within their circles

No. 2584514

>>2584500
not to be accusatory but the timing of the discord being planned on summer and nonas being really quick to approve of a discord makes it seem that many were not around during the creation and downfall of multiple LC discord servers created years ago.
You're better off making connections via the friend finder and making the group from there than starting from scratch and recruiting from a LC thread

No. 2584517

>>2584508
nta Might I interest you in a little something dearest artist nona?
>>>/m/485635

No. 2584532

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This talk about creating a discord is strange because this >>2584517 thread and the critique thread exist and we are hopefully about to experience the first CowFight event soon, there's no reason to go off-site that wouldn't have similar risks as here. Maybe you guys could email each other using friend finder and see if you actually like each other before starting a server kek.

No. 2584623

I have experience with running servers so I will share my two cents for anybody who wants to make their own.
1. Asking people to post work for access is your greatest filter. No lurkers should be allowed, they are a death sentence and will only bring drama.
2. No beginners or people who have just started drawing should be allowed inside, or at the very least ask for finished illustrations. No sketch shit and no unfinished work. Moids who can't draw will scribble/trace anything to larp as a woman and gain access.
3. Ban off vibes alone when needed. If somebody is acting weird, then please, for the love of god just kick them. By the time they break a hard rule the majority of your artists will have jumped ship.

No. 2584627

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>>2581271
>>2581278
aww thank you nonners. i have a lot of feelings about the topic at hand so i suppose it bleeds into the way i use words. here's my last snoopy pic so i don't get banned for avatarfagging kek.
>>2581327
i don't play along either. i like to "misgender" nb characters or ignore their existence and none of my tra friends have suspected anything afaik. i'm sure you're not completely alone in your fandom nona, knowing the pushback they'll get many people stay silent.
>>2581916
exactly, at the end of the day i'm a social creature and i want to discuss the media at hand with fellow fans! i'm kinda shy of mentioning my own fandom since it's even more riddled with kids than ut/dr. it's supposed to be an all ages series after all, and i've kinda outgrown it but i've been here for so long it's so hard for me to leaveeee kek. it's not the cookie run fandom but think of it like the cookie run fandom, they have a lot of member overlap too.
>>2582081
man she's a fucking loser and i thought she was some outspoken stacy. sigh.
>>2584080
i'm lucky that the friends i've got are fairly normie, at least normie compared to the majority of the fandom. and also we're older than the fandom average, late teens to early twenties, so they're less likely to get really brainwashed by the gendie virus. the most radical thing they do is saying trans rights or using they/them unironically, beggars can't be choosers. it does get isolating when i want to vent with someone i personally know about this whole gender ideology bullshit, i use lc for my gc fix but it's not really the same. at the end of the day i can't really say i'm miserable, but i do feel a little silly by partaking in a fandom that would advocate for my (virtual) hanging if they knew how i actually felt (but it's made of really young people so you can only hope to grow out of those views fast). i'm pretty sensitive so i wouldn't know how to deal with social death, at least i'm unpopular so i wouldn't have to lose a huge following and possible money source.

i like the idea of a server in the sense of improving and giving each other advice in a more personal form, posting the artwork we actually share on our named accounts (shoutout to kirbyanon and that other nona who makes fanart for the homie game). but i'm also very paranoid, and also worried that many of us would clash because we don't have many things in common outside of art and being anti troon.

No. 2584628

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So on Artfight, I'm trawling through characters to draw with my friend. She discovered there's an incel tag and it's fucking blatant misogyny everywhere. Picrel. I don't get how these female artists draw these characters and live with themselves afterwards. They must really just hate themselves.

No. 2584641

>>2584623
i'm willing to host one and i don't mind doing all of that. i'm probably going to just make an alt to host the server if there is interest since i wanna meet other artist nonas.

No. 2584649

>>2584623
Good takes nona. These, especially no lurkers and ban off of vibes are big ones for me. I have seen really fun, comfortable servers go completely south because everyone ever was allowed to sit in and because weirdos and spergs were not dealt with immediately.

No. 2584650

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>>2584628
Incel ocs have been a kind of new phenomenon in the oc scene tbh. I’ve seen people making memes about it

No. 2584653

>>2584650
Right one looks like the lovechild of Asmongold and MoistCritical kek

No. 2584654

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>>2584650
It’s probably mostly zoomers who are obsessed with old internet culture or something, mainly 4chan, while they themselves have never used 4chan in their lives. They just think it’s so quirky and edgy, makes them look cool. It’s so cringe. Reminds me of that canihavepromo girl. Zoomers who are obsessed with the 4chan incel aesthetic and pandering to that crowd are so cringe and huge pickmes

No. 2584656

>>2584628
I don’t see anything wrong with making an incel character, if he’s treated seriously and not like a quirky husbando. But for some reason these girls think incels are just nerds but edgier. Imagine if someone made a rapist oc and acted like it’s cute and silly, they’d cancel them in hours. Also half of them are ripping off Eltingville and Ranfren, but made them worse people to seem ‘original’.

No. 2584659

>>2584656
the thing is it's literally a fetish for them

No. 2584666

>>2584659
I wanna put the girls who have this fetish and a fat smelly incel who is balding and thinks marrying 12 year olds should be legal in the same room and see how it goes

No. 2584669

>>2584623
>Ban off vibes alone when needed.
Please, if you are all making a discord do not make this a rule. Just ban people after they have broken the rules, banning people off of "vibes" will just make the server into a circlejerk of whoever the admin likes the most or a hugbox for them.

No. 2584673

>>2584650
Left just looks like a tif to me

No. 2584679

>>2584628
I figured it was a "pathetic chewtoy you're meant to abuse" type of oc.

No. 2584682

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>>2584628
THIS IS A FUCKING JOJO CHARACTER

No. 2584688

>>2584656
Its just the female version of guys who are into "femcels". Basically its just hot weirdos.

No. 2584707

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More "Bluford" shit.

No. 2584708

>>2584707
This niggas oc name is bluford

No. 2584711

>>2584688
minus the hot part.

No. 2584712

>>2584628
They'll grow out of it once they date someone who actually behaves that way and realize the """chad""" abusers and the incels are the same people.

No. 2584714

>>2584708
Fucking Bluford and the color isn't even blue. It's purple.

No. 2584715

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fandoms: columbo, the bible…

No. 2584740

>>2584715
Not very politically correct in this day and age to woobie Joshua the Israeli militant.

No. 2584754

>>2584712
You KNOW nobody's going to date them.

No. 2584758

>>2584715
Seriously, fucking night court?

No. 2584760

>>2583100
same, can attest to it

No. 2584787

>>2583100
same, can attest to it

No. 2584792

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>>2584623
>>2584641
>>2584649
Anyone who is planning on hosting an LC discord should read this article as an inoculation for the crazy drama that typically comes with an LC discord.
https://plausiblydeniable.com/five-geek-social-fallacies/

No. 2584812

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Admittedly the most petty grievance I have as of today, what program did the artfight designer use to make the card?

No. 2584814

>>2584812
MS Paint or FireAlpaca, something about those pixels are very familiar.

No. 2584821

>>2584654
Canihavepromo and it's consequences have been a disaster for zoomer artists. Also can we get Lottie/Canihavepromo thread since she turned 18?

No. 2584850

>>2584476
>>2584792
I’ve been in several Discords hosted by LC/CC anons that were friendly and didn’t end in drama. It’s possible.

No. 2584954

>>2584669
Yes, but an admin hugbox >>>> an "egalitarian" server where one or a few problem users constantly make things awkward or bring down the vibe. It's impressive how good those kind of users are at being obnoxious without actually breaking any rules. I'm kind of against the idea of making a server (even though I would like to meet you nonas), but any server absolutely would have to be locked down, post hands, post finished art, and luck out and not have an admin that's too retarded to recognize certain scrote tells since males would be the biggest issue to contend with imo (gendies could easily get filtered by a VC interview where they have to explain how and why they're GC). I'm especially skeptical that the last requirement can be met just because of all the recent summerfaggotry in this thread.

No. 2584985

>>2584439
troons own and contribute to every IT thing to ever exist nona

No. 2585696

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Uh huh. Hm.

No. 2585736

>>2582051
>clicks link
>cutesy pixels
>small kawaii font
>glitter following the mouse
dear fucking lord i miss 2012-2014. i feel like every year after that just hasn't been real.

No. 2585737

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Random Character clicking yields fascinating backstories.

No. 2585738

>>2585736
Late 90s and early y2k I want to say had more of that stuff on every site even.

No. 2585739

>>2585738
This. Anons on here must've been zygotes when all that shit was ACTUALLY popular on the internet.

No. 2585740

>>2585738
>>2585739
My birth year is 1998 so I'm in a weird sweet spot where I can remember the shit younger zoomers and alphas are becoming nostalgia elitists about but then I also have no idea wtf it is YOU'RE talking about.

No. 2585742

>>2585740
Nona that is sad and pitiful and I wish you were born in the golden age. The site I used this stuff on was fc2, where a lot of my favorite artists posted their quaint little blogs. Some neopets shops went apeshit with it too. It was in the most unlikely places like uhh… My Space, Geocities or whatever.

No. 2585759

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Realization my artstyle kinda looks like lacryboy's art minus the pedoslop… and the trannyslop. aaand the weird enlongated snatched waists.

No. 2585761

>>2585742
Yeah, I remember being like, 11-12 years old and browsing all the cool internet shit I saw teenaged millenials doing in the 2000s and feeling SO envious. You guys had it so good, even zoomers who weren't alive to naturally come across what you guys were doing by virtue of getting online in adjacent era are noticing. I wanted to experience oekakis and neopets roleplay and peak ATLA fandom and sheezyart and old deviantart/neopets layouts and I just felt like I missed out on all the good stuff back then.

No. 2585791

>>2585759
This is fine. Steal the art style and use it for good. I want to steal a certain lolicon's coloring style and he can't fucking stop me.

No. 2585794

>>2585696
I always thought that removing the visible points but still keeping the percentages anyway is so pointless. What even is the point? Take percentages away too or don’t hide anything at all

No. 2585800

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>>2585761
>ATLA
What an odd thing to mention. Not the war between Link fangirla versus Sephiroth/Cloud fangirls kek?
Deviantart was the shit for me for like 10 or so years. I was proud of that. Rooting for its redemption arc. Tumblr is kinda working on theirs imo

No. 2585803

>>2585800
As long as pooners and trannies and groomers still infest tumblr, it'll always be shit.
>>2585761
ATLA wasn't really that popular, it only got popular later on. Oekakis were the shit, though.

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>>2585800
>Rooting for its redemption arc
Its all AI and NFTs nowadays i am afraid.



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