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>>>/ot/2550003 No. 2589583
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This is so fucking funny
No. 2589599
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>>2589583Samefag. I love the outcry for the "natural body type" of a cartoon bat. Methodology in learning anatomy? Just say you're mad your childhood goon fantasy isn't sexy anymore, Noone is going to hurt you. Funniest part is that she still has big honkers in the idw comics and some recent games so it's not like the censorship accusations hold much water.
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>>2589583>>2589599>nowAre these people retarded? It's been over 20 years.
No. 2589617
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>>2589583I have been seeing genderbent rouge and ngl it's kind of hot.
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>>2589599>A female character's breast size is reduced>"SEGA just took away everything interesting about her!"Perhaps there is something to be learnt from this.
No. 2589632
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>>2589599>>2589583I don't really care too much about her boobs either way. I personally love Rouge because she tried to murder Chris Thorndyke and then used Shadows PTSD against him in order to get a shiny rock.
She then proceeded to shamelessly flirt with human women.
Rouge is a man hating, woman respecting queen.
No. 2589640
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>>2589583Nobody on Earth should be this concerned with something as meaningless as the cup size of a fucking cartoon bat. Jesus Christ, men these days are fucking worthless.
No. 2589644
>>2589640Men dont belong in the sonic fandom.
Literally all they know about the female Sonic characters are either their breast sizes or how often they have seen their panties.
Also like 99 percent of adult male Sonic fans are pedophiles.
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>>2589583>>2589599I guess these uber autistic retards forgot about Lanolin The Sheep. in some comic panels her bust size is exaggerated and large. All they care about is their boring ugly bat Waifu who barely has any personality. Search Lanolin Sonic in Google images and you'll see she gets a lot of boob fetish art just like Rouge.
No. 2589679
>>2589655Lanolin was made by Adam Bryce Thomas who is a notorious coomer.
Actually its really disturbing how many Sonic coom artists are in IDW Sonic,
including this one girl who drew porn of Tails fucking her underaged OC, who she later put in the IDW comicI wish I was kidding.
No. 2590766
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what's nonnas opinion on takopi? saw nonnas liking it(wrong thread)
No. 2590922
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I miss what fandoms used to be. Pre-kweer, pre-moralfag, just before any of that stuff. I don't associate with people like that but it doesn't matter if I do or not, these brigades ruin the quality of fan content. It infects fan art, fanfiction, and in some fandoms it spreads it's way into the media itself (harassing the creators). At the moment I consume mostly eastern media but now and again something I'm into suddenly gets popular with that particular crowd. I can't ignore them and it angers me too much, I do not want to share a space with them. It feels like nothing is safe and I'm honestly considering just making something of my own so it's just for me, and nobody can get the chance to ruin it for me.
No. 2590935
>>2589632I think the cartoon is why people think Rouge is more of a seductress than she actually is. Maybe I just don't play enough Sonic material, but does she ever actually flirt with or try to seduce people all that often in the games?
I recall her just sneaking around and being smart enough to hack into places on her own. Not flashing her tits around to get people to do shit for her.
No. 2590966
>>2590935Sperg incoming but imo in the games she's in she's like the slightly tacky but actually rich aunt who unironically likes pink leopard print. She's sexy, she knows how to use it, but she's not interested. She likes money and luxury and that's it. Even her banter with Knuckles is more like her teasing him because she might find him cute but he's stupid. She's not like people portray her and she's super smart. She works for the government while also working with Robotnik if I remember correctly. The external media lost that subtlety but combined with her playable levels and personality in the games it makes me pretty sad.
Unfortunately a character who's sexy in any capacity is always overblown by fans and cooms.
No. 2590981
>>2590922I agree. Media used to be about the media not people projecting all their mental illness and moral failings onto it. Its hard to just talk about a fucking series, as it is, or even fanart that isn't something that's the creator wearing the fandom's skin to talk about themselves or project onto.
Paired with the remakes being made of older series with significant plot differences and fanfic tier changes there's a lot of this new type fan infesting comfortable fandoms who don't know how to act. Even obscure fandoms get infested because some YouTube retard made a 5hr deepdive about ooh weird game they haven't played that people watch and then bother fans of because it's cool to say you know it.
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No. 2591350
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South Park yaoi fanart controversy is always funny to me because it's (usually) not worse than what is in the actual show kek
To give the tiktok op credit though, picrel clearly has fetish motives whereas the show doesn't
No. 2591423
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>>2591350I mean in this case specifically, I'd argue that it's worse because Tweek is apparently a TiF having a period here. But yeah if we're just speaking strictly in terms of how "sexualized" the characters are, it's pretty absurd to pearl clutch when the "yaoi art" in the source material involves Tweek and Craig sticking their hands in each others' pants. Not to mention all the other instances in the show of kid characters getting raped, jerking off, doing drugs, etc. At least the fanartists typically age the kids up, while Matt and Trey themselves have no such compunction kek.
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>>2591182>please don't call people narcissists just because they're self centeredThese kids are in for a nasty surprise when they find out where the word "narcissist" comes from
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>>2591423Almost every source I could find was saying the original was guro of him chopping off his own penis. I couldnt find the original post by the artist so I assume it was deleted, but the artist is sp_owo who is believed to have a gore fetish (spoilered image being proof)
No. 2591689
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Kek it literally never stops with this show and its retarded fans.
I remember they said all the sexual assault scenes would end in season 1 too but here they are in the replies claiming that this is the last time a teenage girl gets assaulted, I s-swear guys it’s totally necessary for the plot haha
No. 2591692
>>2591689It's always Momo that keeps getting assaulted. How come the boys don't get assaulted just as much? Male sexual assault
victims exist, no? Or perhaps their genius author doesn't show that because… he can't coom to it and would legitimately make him (and his scrote audience) uncomfortable.
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>>2590922sorry to be all old woman yells at cloud but it's genuinely just the young(er) generation(s) ruining everything by ignoring all the rules and demanding to be made the fandom overseers. i've been playing ts2 ever since its release and now that it's been re-released a bunch of zoomers started playing it and are trying to break 20 years old traditions around custom content. people TRY to make them understand and teach them that they're going about it all wrong but instead of understanding that oops, they are newbies, they should stfu and learn from their "elders", they throw a fit and accuse everyone of being crusty old bitches who hate on poor/kweer/disabled new cc creators. picrel:
https://pooklet.tumblr.com/post/786735658242867200/a-quick-guide-to-the-community-culture-of-the-sims No. 2591723
>>2589599Notice how men only seem to care about women’s issues, body positivity, anti discrimination, and feminism when they imagine the
victims are super sexy women, being oppressed for their super sexy bodies. You will never hear them talk about how women are discriminated against/maligned for their “natural state” if they’re ugly.
I don’t think they think there are sexy big boobied queens out there crying every day because the world is so mean to them.
Ironically, it is, but the cruelty and dehumanization is not coming from “jealous uggos”. It’s coming from these very same men, who objectify them.
I swear they all have this nice guy savior fantasy where ugly hags are tormenting hot young women, he comes to defend her honor, and is rewarded with her love and sex, of course.
If Rouge started out more plain and was bimbofied over time, no men would be crying about “misogyny”. They are so cynical and pathetic. There’s nothing I hate more than people who are transactionally moral. Just say what you are and go. Stop pretending to care about female representation.
No. 2592527
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>>2592512They are a very
toxic couple it was bound to happen.
No. 2593090
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>>2593025>>2593038American McGee founded Plushie Dreadfuls right? The same man whose turbo pickme mom abandoned him as a teen to pay for a troon's surgery? Fucking disgusting, I honestly wonder what happened to them and I hope they both died. Anyway, he has severe Stockholm syndrome with these faggots, nothing but getting hurled insults from the people he panders to the most. Anyway as an autist picrel is super cute and I wanna get one.
No. 2593101
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>>2593098I just saw that, sad and depressing. If a Gamergater faggot actually targeted his sister that's fucking vile. I don't have sympathy for scrotes most of the time but his life seems horrifying.
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>>2593038>This is pseudoscience Do they know there’s psychologists who think DID and gender dysphoria are pseudoscience? I don’t know enough about psychology to have an opinion, but it’s a weird stance. Sidenote, I’d find these plushies pretty cute if it weren’t for the corny themes.
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>>2593090kek this reminded me of the drama with lolcow rin
No. 2593366
>>2593355The contrast between MTFs and FTMs on the "easy to please" scale being reversed is kinda hilarious
MTF troons literally schizo so hard that they convince themselves futanari manga is "le representation!" while fakebois aren't satisfied by people directly shilling their mental illness in a way made only for them (bunny rabbit dolls in this case, something only a fakeboi would buy or have interest in)
No. 2593473
>>2593472>because the original was "infantilising"She literally put a rattle in hers as opposed to just having it be a typical plush kek
Even the colors make it read more as a toy for infants.
No. 2593778
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Deleted all my fandom accounts (kept an empty one just to follow JP fanartists kek) because everyone in my fandom is a massive retard and the discourse kept pissing me off. I know I made the right decision but it feels so lonely, nonnas. I just want to talk to people about this thing I love but the fandom made it impossible. Tell me I'll eventually get used to just consuming fanart on my own pls.
No. 2593797
>>2593778You'll get used to it… I've done a similar thing,
nonnie. Honestly, it was an instant relief for me. I used to get angry to the point where I started to dislike the media itself. Stepping away from the fandomspace made me feel so much better. I've been able able to navigate my own ideas about the media without having some retard or gendie's take clouding my ideas. It was a little different not being able to openly posting about it, but I've used lolcow and other chan sites to air out my ideas.
No. 2593804
>>2593797This was me a few months ago. I just couldn't stand the retarded takes and character butchering any longer, and like you, I have no regrets. I can finally enjoy the franchise and characters again, so
>>2593778 nonna, while it can still be lonely, you'll see that you made the right decision.
No. 2594039
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Unappealing baby versions of popular husbandos being made into plushes is not a fan-merch market that I think would be lucrative in the slightest.
No. 2594075
>>2594065Tbh I dont remember rin making it because the original was infantilizing, I remember people were pissed at her because
her redesign was infantalizing. I feel like that anon had it mixed up
No. 2594084
>>2594039…Why are western artists so scared of making things that look good?
The concept is pretty cute, I love the certificate thing and is a funny little trinket, but was it so hard to make the design appealing instead of looking like a 50yo who works 20 hours daily?
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>>2594039Why did they make it look like a baby that just came out of the womb?
No. 2594137
>>2593778Being so annoyed with fandom it made me start disliking the source has happened to me more times than I can remember. I avoid social media (always have), stay away from Reddit subs for the fandom for the most part, and NEVER join Discord servers if it’s for something I really like, unless it’s a very tiny fandom and the fans happen to be cool. (Uncommon.)
I just collect fanart I like and write fics. Once in a blue moon I draw some fanart myself, but I don’t post it anywhere big, just share it among a few people. It can feel a little lonelier but it’s much better for continuing to appreciate the source.
No. 2594403
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I don't necessarily disagree with the artist's point here, but I checked on her profile expecting her to be a teenager. In my experience, only children tend to care about this shit enough to make seethe comics about it. But she's 28. You know what? If you were born during the fucking Clinton administration, you're now at a point in your life were you almost certainly have more important shit to worry about than Harry Potter fans complaining about anime fanart online.
No. 2594491
>>2594403Retarded take on the comic part. Assuming you have to do a deep search next time you like someone's art is police state mentality.
Not only that but if those people had a clean place from where they can get normal fan art/fiction you wouldn't see as much cognitive dissonance as its presented in strawman comic.
I hate it when characters get tit chop scars and randomly exclaim "____ rights are human rights" but the clean pool is soo small that I have to make compromises if I wanna look at more than the same 10 pictures. So why is it any different to the le bad characters in the comic? (Excluding the obvious
problematic themes like pedophilia and incest)
This is the culture we live in. Artists always took inspiration from folklore, literature, art, music, theater, philosophy, religion, literally anything you can get your hands on. No suprise we're where we're at with fandoms. Everyone is drinking shit water and making shit. Yeah Michael Aftom is a tim and that's as far as anything goes. White background and all.
Damned if you do damned if you don't.
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>>2594084Isnt Sunday a very handsome bishie from honkai star rail? It's so utterly stupid how they made him look how the mc in the benjamin button movie looked right after birth. As someone who makes plushies and frequently turns her fav anime boys into their cutified mini versions like picrel, I find that pic so offensive that I have to restrain myself from punching my screen. The idea of a birth certificate isn't unique either, it's pretty popular in among chinese/Korean fanmade dolls. Trust Western fandom to ruin everything
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>>2594039>>2594084>>2594757I don’t know these characters so I had to look him up and holy shit. They make him look like a mollusk, emerging from his shell due to inadequate salinity in the water.
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>>2589027the threadpic is pissing me off so bad. what even was the patient 0 for the stupid wing ears thing. earliest example i remember personally seeing is how mcytards started drawing grian's mc skin (picrel).
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>>2594761>>2594039the whole thing about this plush is that it's a meme version since baby birds are ugly and fucked up looking. 'ugly baby sunday' was a thing on twitter for a few days. i dont know why you would make a plush of this meme but people are crazy i guess
https://x.com/ibanyaoi/status/1775869914064056323 No. 2594961
>>2594403>but I checked on her profile expecting her to be a teenager>In my experience, only children tend to care about this shit enough to make seethe comics about it. But she's 28.This is an unpopular opinion on top of my experience being opposite to yours, but so many older fandom people drank the kool aid and they can be the most stubborn self-righteous assholes. A teenager hopefully grows out of it or is nothing more than an annoyance, but old fandom dogs clearly can't fucking learn new tricks and it's even worse when they hold strong community positions.
>were born during the fucking Clinton administration, you're now at a point in your life were you almost certainly have more important shit to worry about than Harry Potter fans complaining about anime fanart onlineAside from that I think this is true kek I'm so over this type of self infantilizing arrested development presence in fandoms. Stop making these shitty comics.
No. 2594999
Is it me or do kids/zoomers nowadays have zero fandom vocabulary? I saw some guy on insta joking that he couldn't name a shounen with a female mc and there a bunch of people in the comments very confidently correcting him that "erm shounen means the lead is a boy if the lead is a girl it's a shoujo". The most basic ass anime terminology, and they don't even know that.
Seems like nowadays the only words fandom kids know are either the ones that are turned into memes (probably the only reason they still know the words yaoi and yuri) or whatever academic-LARP buzzwords are currently pushed by youtube video essayists (like "media literacy").
>>2594039As the other nonnas said, ugly baby Sunday was a meme for a while. I agree I wouldn't imagine it to be very lucrative, though. Seems like a bizarrely specific thing to be making merch of (and plushies out of all things).
No. 2595021
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>>2594999Not exactly the same, but It baffles me when people use japanese terminologies for something in the subcultures they participate in and then newcomers get butthurted over It for whatever reason.
No. 2595022
>>2594999I think it's worse than just younger fans not knowing shit, I think it's everyone at this point– so many people have a mentality where they only take in information from some short-form content retard, who also did no research and is going off of an assumption and some random sentence-long factoid before making authoritative statements regarding it, and then lack the base curiosity to look further into it or check to see if it's true.
Just a horrid game of telephone with no one wanting to look anything up of their own volition and instead take any random comment as gospel truth.
No. 2595086
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The poster better be a troon because if it's a biological woman that's fucking embarrassing. Literally the same talking points as misogynistic men who get mad over muh DEI and female characters not being hot enough. This entire point essentially translates to
>i hate when women don't dress in ways that make me coom or fulfill my autosexual fantasies, but at least they're hot because i hate when foids are ugly in my video games! perfectly acceptable for the scrotes to be hideous though
Also, "serving cunt" is a sexist dogwhistle that pressures women into performing femininity, otherwise you're not cool and a puritan, namely wearing revealing clothing and 10 pounds of makeup.
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>>2595086Probably a real woman. Moids are allergic to Leon because they feel emasulated by his good looks.
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>>2595086She's a french edtwt girl so that explains why she's so casually misogynistic. Literally self hating.
No. 2595102
>>2595091Kek embarrassing
>>2595095France is the land of pedophilia and degeneracy and French women are massive pickmes as a result, not surprising at all. She'll never reach her UGW
No. 2595124
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> autistic fan writes and draws a fuck ton for her own AU
> fandom really likes her stuff, she gets small following within the fandom
> "i'm sick of hearing about this fic" "recommend other things"
> writer now being guilt tripped for…writing
this is happening in a fairly small fandom (cult of the lamb) but i feel like i see this happen to other authors too. their writing blows up on ao3 and suddenly people treat them like a content creator (either worshpping them and constantly demanding more of them or absolutely hating them)
i've started to see some people argue that ao3 allow hiding kudos, hits, etc. to reduce this but i feel like that would just make it even harder for less popular fics to get attention (because then you'd seem like an attention-seeker just for turning kudos on)
thoughts? imho there's some merit to both arguments but it would definitely help if tumblr artists stopped being sensitive little babies
(also 'confession' accounts will literally always cause drama, literally one of the most catty and toxic things in fandom)
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>>2595102>France is the land of pedophilia and degeneracy completely true statement
No. 2595235
>>2595124People who bitch about fanworks being popular are never the sort to actually do the work of promoting or finding and enjoying other fanworks themselves– instead of going and looking through ao3 for what they want to see, they whinge and ask to be spoonfed recs, and recs will always be the fics with the most broad and accepted appeal, since then the person recommending them doesn't risk anything by doing so. Either make your own stuff or publicly praise other's work that you enjoy and help it gain attention, it's not that hard.
I don't think hiding features on ao3 is the solution, since that would only effect a portion of uses that pay attention to those numbers and not things like tags, characters, summaries, etc. Instead, people should simply tell those who complain about others' success in fandom or works being recommended frequently to get over it and look for fic themselves instead of being lazy.
If they're a writer and that concerned with a lack of attention towards their own works, then they need to either realise that no one
owes them more attention, especially not because someone else is getting more, and to maybe reflect on
why they might not be attracting readers to their stories– not so that they can change to write something designed to appeal to what other fans are clearly enjoying in popular fics, but sometimes it helps to recognise that what you like to create is niche and will get a niche response and that's okay. Also, in my experience, these types of complaints rarely come from people who actually do write as well as they think they do (same for artists tbh), and often write fics that are the wrong kind of self-indulgent for other fans to enjoy.
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I hate husbandofags and fujoshits that solely have oshis and otps from shounenslop and moidbait gachas like hoyoverse properties, it’s extreme tourist behavior (shounenslop is always the shit getting whored out to the western gp esp recently, fucking garbage like demon slayer and jjk get massive global fandoms while even long term dedicated anime fans will struggle to name a shoujo series that came out in the last five or even ten years) and stifles the traction and recognition of female BL manga, Otome and shoujo romance/bishounen shoujo creators in favor of male pedophiles who either coincidentally center male characters in his story because hes too much of a chauvinist that can’t resonate with or relate to women to even create waifuslop or waifufags that were mandated by corpo to add some bishies for the Chinese Stacys to whale over, I feel like one of the only tangibly feminist proponents of the church of husbandoism is that we are relating to stories made by women, supporting female creators and supporting female artisans in our community, with shounensloppers, you’re funneling millions into the pockets of japenises because you like their male self inserts, and are setting a trend for more male stories by male authors and less female stories or female gaze stories by female artists. Though I am guilty of having garbo taste in husbandos from moidmedia, some of my ult hubbies are Inuyasha (I moralize this bc Rumiko Takahashi made him and Inuyasha is one of her least scrotey series) and Hawks (I started husbandoing him after finding a terfblr blog themed around him years ago LMAO) so even if I don’t agree, I understand the inclination, also I tend to like shounen art styles a bit more than some generic BL and manhwa ones, the vibrant and avant-garde characters and sometimes cutely deformed styles really appeals to me.
Nonnas, do you prefer your Husbandos or BL OTPs to be from dedicated BL media, Otome games or other female made genres, or do your Nigels tend to be from Shounen or other Male target demographic media like most vidya, etc?
No. 2595454
>>2595328Tbh it's only very recently that I started paying that much attention to demographic, magazine, or tags. I've always been the type to go to the updates page on a manga aggregator site and pick any random title that seems like it'd be a time waster, isekai and twitter one page romcoms included. Tgat being said, since shoujo gets translated less I guess I would lean more on the moidy side?
That being said, I feel like I have enough of a specific niche type that I'll eat wherever it manages to pop up regardless of origin.
No. 2596075
>>2595328Characters I enjoy for BL I never enjoy for husbando purposes. I tried getting into otome and I just can't deal with the popular character archetypes, tropes and writing conventions popular in it. A lot of the love interest characters are just way too mean, Japanese users also seem to have a preference for characters who are contrary to their original presentation so even if you go for the sweetie-pie route he always busts out some unwelcome dom shit. I do like manga written by women when it isn't focused on romance because in romance series I
always prefer the losing option, my tastes are just not aligned with what Japanese women like.
In the West romance novels are huge and they are mostly written by women, so it isn't as if there aren't likeminded women whose preferences would align with yours it's just that prose lacks the visual element that is core to fandom culture and husbandoing.
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Things moids would never consider arguing about regarding their waifus.
No. 2596123
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>>2595328Dedicated BL or otome media for me all the way. I'm peak canonfag, 99% of the time if the canon ships in a story doesn't interest me, I will simply not bother to ship anything from that franchise and enjoy it outside of a shipping context. My life is busy and stressful as it is, can't be bothered to put extra effort into manifesting imaginary relationships. It's not like I hate derivative works by principle, I write fanfics myself. But for me it's always an extension or exploration of the existing worldbuildling and character relationships, instead of just "what if X and Y kissed" when X and Y have literally never met and only share the common feature of being 2d hot guys, kek. I can't bring myself to give a shit about fanons that run counter to canon and most of shounen shipping falls in that category. Plenty of my friends are into that type of shipping though, listening to them sperg out over it can be funny. Idk about nonnies in this thread but pretty often they lose interest rather quickly, sell off merch of their past otp and latch on to the next fomo anime, so I don't take it too seriously
(fujosperg outside of containment) No. 2596143
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>>2595328It's been ages and my OTPs are still Style and HaruYuki. I dont know if it's arrested development or i just peaked too early but the heart wants what the heart wants.
No. 2596172
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>>2595328Counterpoint: homofying some moid's favorite character and making him take a dick up his ass/shove his dick up some other man's ass is feminist praxis.
(fujosperg outside of containment) No. 2596294
>>2596088I joked about Link being Zelda’s dog, and both moids and a handmaiden got
triggered and had some fucking hilarious “let men be dominant!” “Let women be submissive” ass response to it like that isn’t the status quo. There is evidently nothing people hate more than me taking their male fave and making him submissive and devoted to one woman and one woman only. It
triggers them like nothing else. They literally sooner defend lolishit and making bishounens into violent burger moid insert roidpigs, or with titchop scars, but femdom or men being the submissive partner to a woman where they draw the line in the sand omegalul. I love making the male characters virgins and the woman experienced as well lately because they constantly do the opposite and it pisses them off “nooo! Only the man is supposed to be experienced! It’s his right as a man! The woman is supposed to be pure!!!” They completely fail to notice the double standard they have kek
No. 2596334
>>2596172Exactly, if scrotes can corrupt MLP, magical girls and other girl-targeted media with their moid touch why can’t fujos and yumes do the same to scrote media?
>>2595328Imo the insistence of enforcing a certain level of purity on what media is acceptable to consume for husbandos and shipping is counterproductive because then what are we left with that lives up to those standards? Utena, a show that farmers would unanimously agree is a feminist classic, was made by a man who arguably has a lesbian fetish. One could also argue that a lot female gaze media made by and for a female audience (Western romance lit, otome games, some shoujo manga) is also ripe with misogynistic tropes.
Genre shifts don’t happen overnight; the girl-ification of the shounen genre was a gradual shift that occurred over decades. Femgaze content is a relatively new genre so it needs time to develop its footing. TL;DR the existing female-targeted content for women is not going to be ideologically perfect so we must continue to be the change we want to see and iterate on the stuff we do like to encourage change.
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>>2595328I personally don't watch shounenshit or play moid gacha because it doesn't interest me and a lot of the male characters are ugly, plain, or not to my taste at all personality-wise. It does annoy me that a lot of other female weebs tend to avoid shoujo/otome/BL and gravitate towards eating crumbs that fall off of shounenshit but I guess that's a result of anime/manga/games becoming mainstream.
(fujosperg outside of containment) No. 2596531
>>2595328tbh as much as i like to indulge in otome/bl sometimes, it's really hard for me to get attached to the characters from those games enough to husbando them. i've tried a lot of them and even when there's a guy who's my type, i just don't feel for him as strongly as i would for a guy from non-romance-related media. i guess them being made mostly to be an object of desire is my roadblock, i like my 2d men with a life outside of MC-chan.
my favourite husbando source for that reason is rpgs with romance elements, i feel like they strike the perfect balance where you can see your favourite character from both sides: the way he acts in situations completely unrelated to your (MC's) relationship with him and also through a love story.
the main con of this is that you'll have to get used to seeing a lot of yumeart with other people's characters. not a problem for some but once i started getting a bit too autistic about my hasu i stopped looking up fanart of him for that reason. oh and that for most nonas men in western rpgs are too ugly, which i'm not gonna dispute - i guess the closest to a bishie equivalent of this would be the P3P femc routei know my main hasu is written by a woman though so i'm good in that regard i guess.
No. 2596550
>>2596520understandable. a lot of stuff gets labeled as shounen or seinen even if it doesn't even meet most of its tropes just to be marketed for a general audience or just because they have a style that's slightly different. it's actually way more varied than BL or shoujo as a result.
>>2596514except that won't change that there isn't that much variety in its styles or stories, with some exception. I don't like slice of life, romance, or any fluffy school stories. there's some fantasy ones I like regardless, like Yona of the Dawn, that I'm happy to support but the characters look like 15 year olds so I'm not really attracted to them and I really dislike Hak which makes the romance even worse to witness.
No. 2596559
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(Im dwelling on this because of Ethel Cain being cancelled) I feel like a creator getting cancelled for saying the N word is so dumb when they have a backlog of sexual perversions & misogyny that went ignored. Maybe I'm bitter. But I see it time and time again in fandoms, especially with people who make content such as pedophilic fanart of incest ships or super-gooner depictions of women. Why is it so cool and valid and artistic to be a pedophile or a misogynist to the core, but saying "nigger" for edgy points is where the line is drawn? Fandom & the way people engage with media is so poisoned
No. 2596579
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>>2596559I think proship/anti discourse is dumb but I think it's really funny when proshippers who coom to rape start acting like they're holier than thou over the most banal jokes ever. I can't find the exact screenshots since the girl who started it all was suspended. But basically she posted picrel, got backlash, someone joked "The CP is all yours broski" and she and her followers got mad and said that they were basically encouraging and accusing a minor of having CP. Like sure it's a crass joke but you're the one who brags about liking boku no pico.
Bonus, this is a 15 y/o girl bragging about what hentai she likes. Bleak.
No. 2596592
>>2596551I don't care kek. it's very unlikely many meaningful new properties will be developed under current corporate circumstances and even less likely genres will by fully redefined, which is why a lot of old classics are now being rehashed so much. if you got what you wanted it's likelier that more "new" tropey stories, dumb merch and soulless gacha being developed deliberately to pander to audiences would become far more common. good stuff would still remain niche or only rarely be picked up. also I don't like when my husbandos are automatons designed in a factory for me either and I don't even buy anything from his franchise. why would I want to encourage the machine to shoot out more slop for me by buying more plastic?
>>2596570same. what wonderful news.
No. 2596598
>>2596579I think having your real age on the profile you use to ragebait and shock audiences and then complain people wont take easy on you is such a retarded behavior.
I don't mind most proship interests since I'm technically one too, but now the only people who continue this anti vs pro debate on the side of proshipping on social media are only there to ragebait and cry
victim when people start thinking It's retarded to be so vocal about liking shotas or whatever. I mean, if you are going to post about It, then learn to either block or not act so affected (which only serves to make you receive more negative attention, but I think that's part of the appeal to them).
No. 2596602
>>2595328I'm a fujo and I probably have autism regarding this, but I basically tend to enjoy m/m ships and their fancontent (regardless of canon status) in most media I consume, however I will draw a line regarding my ''investment'' and interaction with fandom depending on whether the anime/game/whatever was made with a fujo audience in mind or not.
Basically, I'll enjoy gacha fotm ship content from a distance, but I won't engage with the fandom more than that, and I definitely wouldn't spend money on the game (or merch), make content for it myself, etc. I do wish fujos had higher standards in general and didn't settle for slop, but it's not like I can change their minds and get them to draw content for my ships instead.
I don't enjoy original BL that much, but it's mostly because I have specific preferences and it's easier to find ships that 100% suit my tastes in fujo-pandering-but-not-outright-BL shows. Sadly it's been a bit dry these days when it comes to anime of this kind, but at least we got Blue Lock(just ignore the s2 animation), and hopefully Hikaru ga shinda natsu ends up being good (I haven't read the manga).
(fujosperg outside of containment) No. 2596676
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Nonnies, what impact do you feel video essays have had on fandom spaces?
>Have you joined any fandoms because of a video essay?
>Has your fandom been infiltrated by zoomers because of a video essay uploaded about it? >Has the discourse, headcanons and general consensus around the lore of your fandom been heavily influenced by popular video essays?
>Do you feel like video essays could provide any positive impacts to your fandom?
Picrel is referencing when y2k zoomer grifter Izzyzzz got into a spat over this video with an established Doll YouTuber Xcanadensis because she stole her photos and documentation of prototypes for an unreleased doll line. I feel like Izzyzzz is the most egregious example of insufferable detached video essayist implanting themselves in niche fandom spaces and overloading them with 13 year old genderfuck retrosexual sparkledogs with DID, god I pity any nonna who’s fandom or niche interest she’s covered. Her are a guilty pleasure for me but it’d be better if she quit YouTube to fully focus on her studies in clown college
No. 2596677
>>2596559Being racist is pretty bad, and it's not a surprise that so many sex pest trannies are also racist, but I understand that some of you are racist or are low IQ pickmes who "had an edgy racism phase omg stop being so mean!!" so being reminded of this is
triggering or something, kek. I don't feel bad at all.
No. 2596690
>>2596676I only really watch video essays if I either know of a subject and want to revisit it or am not going to ever get into it but want to know about it anyway.
I'm in a fandom with a bunch of video essayists that I didn't even know about, and I had wondered where all these retarded supposed lorefags that are wildly off came from, but once I started seeing the videos recommended everything made sense. Zoomers, gendies, racist moids, it's literally just brought the worst of everyone and nobody is even correct when they talk about the lore because none of them have actually ever engaged with it outside if video essays.
If Izzyzzz covered my fandom that would be a upgrade sadly kek
No. 2596696
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>>2596676>Have you joined any fandoms because of a video essay?No, I don't watch them. I tried a few times but it seems like no matter the subject it's always going to be inaccurate or missing key details. Youtubers appeal to algorithms most of the time so I don't trust them to cover my fandom well.
>Has your fandom been infiltrated by zoomers because of a video essay uploaded about it?Nope, thankfully! I have noticed a lone few zoomies but they do a fine enough job of integrating and don't insert all their bullshit within the fandom.
>Has the discourse, headcanons and general consensus around the lore of your fandom been heavily influenced by popular video essays?No but a fandom I had been in had this problem. It's difficult to have any meaningful discussions when this happens because everyone parrots the exact same opinion for the exact same reasonings. They don't actually think for themselves and therefore can't actually participate much.
>Do you feel like video essays could provide any positive impacts to your fandom?Hm, difficult to say. There's a lot of historical and folklore elements that are important to the media, if the video essay focuses purely on that aspect, I could see it being an insightful video as long as proper care is taken into researching it. That being said, video essays are watched by mindless consoomers. They care less about franchises and more about "planting their flag", for lack of a better term, they want to dominate fandoms with their morally rightous selves and leave once the newest FOTM, video essay bait franchise comes out. I wouldn't want them in my fandom because they're only good for numbers, you know those seagulls in Finding Nemo that irritatingly scream "Mine" over and over? They're a lot like that, literal hivemind.
No. 2596711
>>2596676It's mostly just newfound appreciation if it's a topic I knew little about (like a video essay I watched on OS-tans)
The stuff that gets discussed in Izzyzzz videos is usually way too uncreative for me to have any real respect for it so I usually just walk away thinking it's mildly funny like the norm of the north twitter account.
No. 2596725
>>2596707I agree with you, and I don't get the logic of some anons on this. So, because a sad number of women refuse to do anything about misogynistic white scrotes, black people need to accept being called slurs? What is the connection there, kek?
The problem lies with Macon's fellow white scrotes, his mother and all the female fans who were defending him with their lives, talking about how his fetish shit was "female rage empowerment music", "yasss kweening" that misogynistic Tumblr rant and saying he totally understands women's experiences. That is the issue, not that racism also got him in trouble eventually.
It's not everyone's job to accept anything just because one community decided to fold their hands and let a woman-hater get famous.
No. 2596823
>>2596559Wokies have a long history of defending literally everyone
but women, I don't know how you're shocked at this point. The people who run in those circles get what they deserve when the leopards eventually eat their face. That's the path Macon chose when he trooned out. Inshallah.
No. 2597101
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>>2597091That male ribcage expansion is truly inescapable
No. 2597147
>>2596725>>2596735>pedophilia and misogyny is normal and okay in fandoms but racism is not so pedophiles and misogynists are allowed to run rampant unless they said something racistAre you genuinely struggling to understand what is being said here or why it's a problem? Do you grasp that in order for a pedophile or a misogynist creator to be dealt with seriously, you have to hope someone has a screenshot of them saying something racist? Ethel Cain is just one example of someone who got away with drawing NSFW torture of kids for
years and it's only now being viewed unfavourably because someone found out he said nigger 8 years ago
No. 2597151
>>2597147>Do you grasp that in order for a pedophile or a misogynist creator to be dealt with seriously, you have to hope someone has a screenshot of them saying something racist?I feel like this is disingenuous. There are plenty of racist moids that are allowed to get away with their behavior. There were still fans of Ethel's excusing his racism. Nobody gave a shit about his supposed pedophilia or misogyny because he's a tranny who claimed to be a
victim of pedophilia and sexual assault. His fans will excuse everything he does because they believe that he's a woman and a
victim of misogynistic crimes. I've seen handmaidens say that his horrible actions are the result of "internalized misogyny". It's harder to defend his racism because he's white, but they'll still try to do it anyways
No. 2597159
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>>2596676It's so shitty when "informative" YouTube channels steal pictures or videos without credit. I know sometimes it's not always feasible to ask for permission, but at the very least they could embed credit within the video. Everything came from somewhere. The hobby content people spent $$$ and hours creating isn't there so some uninvolved stranger can mine it for views and cash.
No. 2597164
>>2596559Just my two cents but I partly blame the libfems for this. Like those Genshin "feminists" who swear up and down that their precious goo erbaint queens are totes not goonerbait because something something "she [a fictional character] can wear whatever what she wants!"
Or those who use the "muh trauma coping" to pull degenerate sexual stuff (often involving the pain of women).
No Black person is gonna go and give a non-Black person a pass for saying the N-word or perform mental gymnastics to say that blackface can be "reclamation" for past historical racial trauma.
No. 2597190
>>2597151Nta. I think ayrt is generalizing, not saying that racism is
always taken seriously in lefty fandom spaces online. There are plenty of racists being allowed to run amok, but a person is just way more likely to be canceled due to racism or troonphobia than due to misogyny. That's just objectively true, because he's been blatantly misogynistic with no pushback from anyone but GCs. I imagine there are retards defending his racism, likely other TiMs who have skeletons in their own closets and are defending Macon as a proxy for themselves. But if we look specifically at the types of people who stanned Macon only to cancel him now, it's evident they don't take misogyny as seriously as racism.
No. 2597194
>>2597180I'd say worse, because dragging a woman around by her hair is a lot more likely to happen in domestic violence situations. And generally when hair-pulling happens as a kink thing, it's during sex when both people are actually naked. The fact that they're fully dressed almost makes it seem
more like domestic violence, frankly (not that things like hair-pulling cease to be violent and demeaning during sex, but you get what I mean). I've seen some retarded cope about how it's meant to be a "parody" or "satire" of misogynistic ads from the 60s, but I don't buy that. Satire is supposed to be funny or subversive, it's just a replication of whatever the source material is. If it were "satire," the man would be on his knees getting his hair pulled, or something similarity subversive. You can't just copy something wholesale and call it satire, and Sabrina has a long history of mindlessly copying whatever shit she sees on Pinterest because she's a shallow retard with no sense of creativity or individuality. That's why her lyrics read like an ESL porn addict with a head injury wrote them.
No. 2597206
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>>2597194It would be satire if she was freshly showered and lying on her stomach in a fluffy robe, and a man was pulling her hair strands as he blows them with a dryer. As it is, it's just domestic violence for gaslit retards.
No. 2597214
>>2596559Men can't get cancelled. Does anyone remember the amber/johnny trial and how all handmaindens were rooting for johnny? he actually misgendered one of amber's tranny friends on the trial topkek. Ofcourse trannoids didn't change his stance on him or even cancelled him, he's still a poow widdle baby
victim of a woman half his size and age.
No. 2597595
>>2597431>>2597530As we all know, only men can be "of color". All women are white. Racists are only ever racist toward men, and if (by some horrible miscarriage of life) you're a woman and
not white, you need to accept racism, sweetie! How dare you not be okay with the racist troon? You should only dislike him for being a troon.
My god, some of you are stupid.
(baiting) No. 2597634
>>2597616>>2597626I barely even know who Ethel Cain is and I sure as shit don’t know what he said, I'm talking about in general. I'll start to give a fuck about racism when moids of all races stop being rapists, so never. What's next, you're gonna tell me how "white woman tears" are a super sewious issue and that they're oppressors? Kek. From the sounds of it you care more about him being racist than being a misogynist which is telling.
>>2597621Scratch an intersectional feminist and a pickme bleeds
No. 2597655
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>>2597643>>2597650All this teenage girl tier squabble over a tranny that wants to be LDR. Just make out or something.
No. 2597659
>>2597638I’ve been here for 7+ years. I’ve just come to recognize when pickmes like you screech over racism like a tumblrtard while not even caring about his misogyny.
>>2597640Where did I ever even imply that? Your low self esteem is showing. Not every white woman is out to get you despite what your retarded friends and influencers you follow have to say.
>>2597643There it goes
(infighting) No. 2597703
>>2597683Nobody is “screeching” about anything. It’s true that misogyny isn’t taken as seriously as it should be but unless you’re in retarded libfem or moid-dominated spaces idea that people don’t care about pedophilic artwork or fanfiction is untrue. Macon was given a pass for everything because he’s a troon who claimed to be raped or something. Literally every criticism he received was brushed away because his fans believed in supposed
victim status. There’s nuance to this conversation that’s being lost somehow. Every public condemnation of Macon’s misogyny was brushed off by his fans because he claimed to be a female
victim.
No. 2597783
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>>2597683The crazy thing about the Ethel Cain stuff is that he was uplifted by troon-loving white libfem women who enjoy his specific brand of misogyny, not black and Latina women. He obviously has some non-white fans, but we all know what the majority of his fanbase looks like, who put him on and who he's copying. So many white radfems on places besides LC who knew about him could've put him on blast long ago for his vile lyrics and generally horrible attitude. They just had to be willing to deal with the sperging from their fellow white women and a bunch of MtFs. It's almost like after Ethel responded to one radfem on Tumblr, every single one went scurrying and would only discuss him in passing or hushed tones. That's a problem. Your real problem isn't that he was scolded for the racism, it's that
>noooo they'll call me a terf and harass me if i speak outAnd black women routinely get called horrible things, harassed and abused for speaking up about racism and misogyny by people who engage in both. So fucking what? Being aloof and detached about it clearly did nothing but let that troon thrive. He really could've been sent into the ether just like Onision and that one creepy, fake-positivity van tranny if he'd been gathered in time.
I know some black radfems had already been talking about how he's just another misogynistic tranny before the racism came out, but honestly? We didn't blame you for not helping us end Kevin Samuel's career (another misogynistic scrote) because you probably don't even know who he is, and that's an in-community discussion. Ethel Cain is your in-community discussion, and no one should be expected to be okay with his racism just because so many in your community accepted the sexism. Ultimately, it's
also still white libfems who are going to save his career, and you'll probably let it happen again and only complain when his racism is brought up. It's annoying. Either be glad someone finally whacked the piece of shit scrote, or deal with him yourself and handle the inevitable misogynistic tranny/libfem tears.
No. 2597814
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Has anyone talked about the tribute art to Rurouni Kenshin? For those who don't know, the mangakas was convicted for several DVDs containing child porn, he was handed a fine of ¥200,000 (the equivalent of $1900 in Yen), and has not stepped in jail, and his manga is still being serialized. Anyway I don't want to spam the thread, but I can show a few examples since picrel is kind of low res
No. 2597820
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>>2597814Horokoshi (mha mangaka)
No. 2597821
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Man why can't you guys just relax and laugh at the wokescolds and troons cannibalizing each other? Why does this have to turn into an autistic debate about who is the Most Oppressed?
No. 2597822
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>>2597814Araki (JoJo mangaka)
No. 2597863
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>>2597814Gege (jjk)
>>2597831There's not any that I know of. Possessing child pornography was only made a crime in Japan in 2014, and softcore child pornography can be purchased in some stores
No. 2597885
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>>2593109Imagine getting into bed with an emofaggot bunny rabbit next to you instead of cuddling with Bartholomew after taking a bubble bath and lighting a scented candle to rest from long day of work and errands. Fugly ass neurodivergent lagomoprhs mogged by the based English ursidae. Bunny rabbits are for bippies who make Sanrio traumacore memes on Pinterest.
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fandom brainrot like this needs to be studied because there's so much going on here
No. 2598140
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>>2597159Needing to get permission for content is a captialist hellhole idea, and for that ill post a photo of a TV that has a youtuber watching a tiktok with a cake with a stolen comic panel, fuck you
No. 2598183
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>>2598105They were, it's a contractual obligation
>>2598076He didn't even color in the lines, it's easy to contrast it to his other tributes
No. 2598320
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>straight man
>bl is different to me
Not everyone will like otome games but this is an overcompensating and pornsick TIF isn't it kek
No. 2598381
>>2598320Sounds like a self hating bisexual girl/woman who doesn't want to date men irl because they did some abhorrent shit to make her troon out, but she is still attracted enough to look at 2 of them bone. At least she's not identifying as a lesfujo about it.
>>2598362That's a really good point. The history of eroge VNs compared to otome games are completely different. I remember learning otome games were like CYOA text games girls could play on their phones and expanded from there, where as eroge VNs needed the visual element from the start. Like how that biographical manga 16Bit Sensation illustrated it.
No. 2598397
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>>2598362Oh I don't disagree with that point. The origin of the discourse was someone bemoaning the lack of "big visual novel releases". Of course this caused people to bring up otome games, BL games, ADV-hybrid, indie games (both english and japanese) since those communities are still chugging along more than commercial eroge. VNs as a medium has always been niche and the age of big "kamige" bishoujo-ge/galge is pretty much over with most writers working on gacha/LNs since they are more profitable/cheaper to produce respectively. Even for otome games, the peak was around psp-vita era. Still, otome and BL fans tend to be more connected and have a stronger community (eroge "community" is a cesspit in comparison). I've met more female vn fans that are more "omnivorous" than men, and in my experience most male VN fans (both EOP and JOP) don't actually keep up with the scene and just jerk off Subahibi and Muramasa for the 100th time.
No. 2598441
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Wednesday and Enid is a popular ship but they're very delusional if they think a Tim Burton Addams Family series is only popular because of a ship. Shippers always over inflate the power they have when heartstopper is the only majorly successful shippy show and it still gets outstreamed by bridgerton even tho bridgerton has less fan content
No. 2598506
>>2597783I mean, beyond being called a
terf, a callout from radical feminists would have 0 impact. People would immediately dismiss it as transphobia, it had to come from his fans and better yet it had to come at a time when he's famous enough for loss to hurt. If this kills his career, if this blackens it even remotely, that's so much more satisfying now than it would be had he been crushed ten seconds out of the gate. Relish in that.
No. 2598647
>>2598615I wonder if we can use the genshin feminist response if they get pissed about it, something like:
"Oh, you hate him in this skimpy outfit? Errrr sweaty, don't you see you're being really misandrist right now? Can men not express their sexuality now? In 2025? Why are you so sex negative? Sex negativity is aligned with Christofacism and purity culture don'cha know?"
No. 2599042
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>>>daddy
Idk about the other guy but isnt gojo like 27? Will this daddy nonsense ever die out?
No. 2599600
File: 1752275796601.mp4 (7.08 MB, 1080x2408, 1000038828.mp4)
>>2598686Speaking of sexualization an nucani, they are currently rerunning the last summer event and the way this character is introduced made me kek to death
No. 2600046
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No one in this movie has sex appeal but particularly not this guy
No. 2600372
>>2600317Nta I remember watching this series because I was excited that Korra and Asami got together but from what I remember about the series (in no particular order)
>Korra and Mako are dating>He's busy with his job>They fight and she kicks over his desk at his office>Something something opposing pole water tribe where she has the most "chemistry" with the evil water tribe leader (I don't ship them, I just think writing-wise that's just how it turned out)>Korra and Bolin partner up to save Mako who got kidnapped by anti-benders (she has the second most "chemistry" with Bolin imo but I also don't ship them)>Korra and Asami pass the bechdel test twice I think, both times when Korra is hurt. First time is when they write letters to each other after Korra goes AWOL, the second is during a fight with Asami's dad(?) and Asami asks if Korra is okay. All other times they discuss Mako or some guy.>Epic fight>The endKorra's most shippable relationships in order (even though I don't ship her with any)
>Water tribe leader (too old though)>Bolin (too chubby)>Mako = Asami (both equal in terms of unsatisfying/mid writing)In my opinion she should have ended the series single.
No. 2600526
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What's wrong with kids these days? They're either pornsick or incredibly reppressed. And I have the feeling that either way won't protect them from being groomed online.
No. 2600542
>>2596559Macon isn't being cancelled unfortunately. His handmaidens are currently going berserk cancelling anyone who dares speak out about him. Moids like him make "art" about being a pedo misogynist but if a woman made vent art about her being a
victim of pedo misogynist shit she'd be cancelled to hell and back for being pwobwematique. Men get no repercussions for what they do
No. 2600967
>>2598397On the topic of VN and a little off topic. I've been thinking about this a lot since a topic similar to this kind of comes up whenever a western indie VN like Date Everything gets popular, or some company makes a April Fools VN and other people complaining that no one makes non-ironic indie VN in the west.
Because I could go on Kickstarter right now a pluck two or three non-ironic indies that are being funded every month or so, or I could find plenty of them scattered about all over itch.io. But they're also mostly Otome/Amore, do people still use Amore, VNs so they don't get counted or overlooked by the VN audience.
Like Touchstarved had an insanely successful kickstarter campaign, probably the most money made for a VN on the site, but most of the discussion for the game I saw came from Otome circles, even though it wouldn't classify as an Otome game. And not a single post about the game in the general visual novel sub which skews more male.
It makes me think the complaint about non-ironic indies is more about how there isn't more indie VN geared towards hetero men.
No. 2601107
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why do fujos always get the sexual dimorphism hate/snark when 99.9% of hetero content looks like this? big bulky guys x hamsters with tits(fujosperging)
No. 2601145
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>>2600967>It makes me think the complaint about non-ironic indies is more about how there isn't more indie VN geared towards hetero men.I've thought about this before too: men overlook stuff made for women - they're not interested so it doesn't count to them. But there's no equivalent to Otome Jam, the VN patreons that could outmatch a dev like GB Patch are probably porn game ones, there's simply less energy for indie dating-sims/romance vns for men in comparison to what women are putting out for Otome and BL. But I'm not really sure why.
No. 2601153
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>>2601127NTA but seriously. I can't get into korean shit because it's just so ugly. Sad that I'm probably missing some good stuff but I just can't deal, it reminds me of older yaoi trends mixed with current
kpoop idols plastic surgery looks.
No. 2601154
>>2601153>missing some good stuff the writting is usually even worse than the art.
Koreans are weird, is like they try to do the same thing japanese people do but it always comes up 10x more souless and uncanny.
No. 2602348
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I will never understand asexual fandom discourse. Why would anyone want to read about characters who are "100% sex repulsed" having sex to please their partner? That just sounds creepy and depressing.
No. 2602769
>>2602755she showed me it a long time ago before she got like this and it's still there
>>2602758she wants to act like she isn't a fujo on main i suppose. i don't give a fuck at all and don't participate in fandom, i don't care what ships people have. but it's funny to see her xitter posts pop up on my feed about it
No. 2602908
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Just ran into a dude on reddit writing 20 comments about how a safe waifu character ACHUALLY outsold the hot male character because of my schizo math that's more accurate than all websites tracking that shit.
Just take the L and end yourself, chinese incels are insane.
No. 2602917
>>2598723I always found the skintight latex catsuit scene so weird for a Tim Burton work (in Wednesday when they're having the canoe competition?)
Author's fetish on display lel
No. 2602956
>>2602911yeah idk why anyone would spend that much time raging about ships but ig they’re jobless
speaking of antis i always assumed they actually secretly like the thing they’re always screaming about. do you guys agree?
No. 2603223
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lol, of course a "transbian" posted this. I'm not going to pretend these romances are well-written, but getting angry that the female character didn't end up with a roman woman is something I've only heard troons and men woids will become troons complain about.
>she shouldn't be with chad, she should be with a soft woman (like me)
No. 2603338
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>>2602360Maybe she just didn't appreciate being pressured into have sex with any of the crystal degenerates
No. 2603367
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>>2603338Cowardly writing choice for this show to routinely use fusion as an allegory for gay sex, then pull out and say "oh no, it's meant to represent ALL relationships" when Steven fuses with his dad. Nah man, the shows already dead so they need to own up to Steven having alien gay sex with his dad.
No. 2603377
>>2602360I don't think that makes sense. If fusions represent all types of relationships then it shouldn't have been a problem for Peridot to fuse if she's supposed to be asexual and not interested in romance in particular. She still should've been able to fuse with her friends like Steven. Wouldn't that imply she's also not interested in any other types of relationships like friendships? I doubt we have any diehard Steven Universe fans here of all places who could explain that to me though
>>2603338who's the artist?
No. 2603471
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>>2603223>marionette and golden freddy holding a tranny flagMy headcanon is that William Afton would dead name any tranny before throwing them in a springlock suit and
triggering the locks so they can "transition" as animatronic slaves for his nightmare company. The one based thing William would ever do. Fuck this "xyz character says tranny rights" nonsense, let's pile up all the characters we think would be "transphobic".
No. 2603477
>>2600317Korra was kind of a slut honestly kek, she gave off
strong "I only want what I can't have" vibes throughout the show and especially in the first two seasons
No. 2603495
>>2602956Depends. Some of them sound more like they're super autistic about their landmines.
The ones who go hard on the moralfaggotry probably secretly like what they're complaining about because you don't need a reason to dislike something beyond "it's gross to me"
No. 2603508
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just sick and tired of the constant infantilization & hand holding that's now commonplace in fandom and creation. i've been getting into VNs more lately and came across one called "the kid at the back" that seemed promising despite being in progress until i found out the creator keeps insisting people to enjoy & view the VN exactly the way she does. i understand wanting your intentions and overall vision to be understood & honored by your audience, but getting so worked up over some people thirsting over your yandere character that driving them away from your VN essentially becoming a goal of yours is insane. like, that should never be part of your creating process whatsoever. it's genuinely so retarded to me. yanderes & dark tropes overall aren't okay in reality, but they're interesting to explore and play with in fiction anyway. and i say that as someone that experienced an equivalent of a 'yandere' before among other stuff. that and people will thirst over any and everything on here. i don't understand how dark fiction creators like her don't accept these simple truths and instead opt for giving themselves the headache of trying to control how people engage with their creations. and for this creator it's especially hypocritical and hilarious when she says the VN isn't a romance one in picrel but in her twitter bio it literally says, "The Kid at the Back is a Romantic Yandere Thriller Indie Visual Novel". i keep coming across shit like this in fandom from all angles no matter where i go or look and it always feels like i'm being lectured to by old, religious people that can't handle seeing skin without fainting. it's so bizarre.. even more so knowing said creator is around my age (20+). i know the reasons behind why fandom is the way it is today yada yada but it sincerely sucks that it's so difficult to find things/spaces/people that are inherently mature and don't undermine your intellect in any way for weird reasons. it's unserious. and tbh i might still buy and play it since i'm in love with the art style and mystery but it doesn't have that weight to it that it did to me before finding this out. like the whole VN is silly to me in a way rather than this genuine, cool thing it was apparently supposed to be. sigh
No. 2603584
>>2603377Having Peridot try to fuse with Garnet to represent "asexuality" was always a fumble in my opinion. If you ignore that episode, then fusions representing all kinds of relationships makes sense. Steven and Amethyst always had a brother/sister kind of bond and that's especially the case when they fuse in the show. Jasper literally only fused with Lapis because she needed the utility of being bigger and stronger
(and that's all Jasper really cares about when she's begging Lapis to refuse with her later in the show, there's 0 physical attraction shown or implied; she just wants to be a big fuck that can fly again kek). Even Amethyst and Pearl fusing earlier on in the show is framed in a mainly platonic way where they're just getting over their differences to achieve a common goal. Honestly, outside of Ruby/Sapphire and Steven/Connie, it was pretty uncommon for fusions to have romantic connotations imo. Peridot not fusing because she's "asexual" was always so retarded to me and that part of that episode was always so uncomfortable to watch. My only cope is that Sugar wasn't credited for any of the writing and maybe wasn't there to tell them that this was a retarded thing to imply given the entire rest of the show.
No. 2604038
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Why does this show have a fandom? It's just a boring ass children's show that aired in the UK almost 20 years ago. Why do zoomers care about this? Is it the same strain of autism that causes childless adults to be "fans" of Bluey?
No. 2604110
>>2603508Too many Millennial and older Zoomer creators want to be the word of god and the BNF who transcribes it for the commonwealth. Both groups would be 10x less insufferable if they'd just post updates and never,
never look at any fanworks until well after the release of whatever they made
No. 2604159
>>2603508>treated him as their babygirl and literally called him a 'green flag' for a yandereWhy is the dev surprised by this? The bar for a yandere to be called a "green flag" is extremely low. All he has to do is not kill the MC and retards will call him that.
That being said, this is another thing I can't stand in fandom, calling characters "x flag".
No. 2604240
>>2604159ayrt it's really funny you say that because so far in the VN (spoilers)
the MC finds out he killed the other love interest by finding his corpse then is killed by the yandere's bestie accomplice that then kills the yandere because he says he can't live without MC now that they're gone and wants to die with them, so you're right about that in a way lol. but same gosh, i hate that "x flag" shit even if it's 'right' in a sense. it always just waters down the character's complexity and intrigue in favor of tiktok, twitter brainrot trend bullshit. that and it's always presented as this profound thing no one else realized. so annoying
No. 2604428
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the "nonsense" being disgust towards pedophilia
No. 2604507
>>2604474I feel like it's projection, men have been doing it towards women since the stone age. THEY are the ones who mostly go to media just to either look for or make porn of it (simply look for most men's fanworks, they're often just NSFW shit, or discussions of which female character is hotter).
Think back, lots of female mythological characters boil down to 'This sexy woman has sex with men and then kill them!!!', and who is the one doing that in real like? Men. More recent, just looks at all those 'White women fuck dogs' "jokes". Who is the demography who most often rape animals since the medieval ages? Again, men.
They just love to dump all their shit onto us so they can feel superior.
No. 2604528
>>2604474idk it definitely feels like
some shippers (het, slash, whatever, doesn't matter) really do only care for the objects of their ship/desire and not the story as a whole. They don't necessarily make up the majority (that's very fandom dependent), but they do tend to be obnoxious and so end up being more memorable and become the stereotype (especially to retarded moids who'd rather seethe and bitch than get along peacefully with regular fangirl antics, tarring everyone with the same brush)
No. 2604746
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>>2604531So true
nonnie, I'm very afraid of this and have started using gallery-dl to archive every artist I follow once a month at least. It's always the god tier asian artists who nuke their accounts too, I miss you everydaysleep queen
No. 2605205
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I hate the current state of fandom drama. all of it is happening in gay little discords, but they'll post about it on tumblr anyway, trying to get some literal who cancelled. like either do this all publicly so I can get caught up or quit clogging up the tags. it's a slow fandom aswell, so I get jazzed when there's a new post, only for it to be some bullshit nobody cares about
No. 2605287
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>Generic moeblob galge for moids
>Never see any moids even speak of it
>Cutecore girls (and a few fakeboi girls for good measure) absolutely obsessed with it
What causes this?
No. 2605315
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>>2605287My schizo hypothesis is that moeblob characters are made to appeal to women in the way women wear makeup.
That means that moeblob characters are, well, cute, and women usually like cute things, by making the fetish scenes seem comedic or the sorts, then they make some women lower their defenses
>it's just a joke>it's because that would've definitely happened >he feels sorry and embarrassed!Add a nice color palette that's not assaulting your senses, cute as fuck music to sing and dance to about falling in love and finding true love or even happiness, and tropes that makes it easier for anyone reading/watching/playing it to self-insert
>happy go lucky girl>sad girl>angry girl>clumsy girl>tomboyish girlIn which it focuses entirely on how the cute girl is cute "she's literally me! I also love to decorate my room or I also lash out at people when I feel awkward!" And then you have a bunch of girls idealizing the moid character who is bland like a beige mom house, because the moeblob character likes him, therefore, if you're really the genki sad uwuwu anime girl you projected yourself into, then you should like him as well.
So women cosplay the cute characters and try to get their protagonist loser with no particular interests and no friends bf, because they are the anime girl.
I would say it's like a bear trap, because the designs have ruffles, cute colors, cute details, big ass eyes, cute names and cute patterns, you barely notice that you can't feel your leg once it got you, you don't notice the underwear, the random moaning, the squeaky voices, the unnatural poses, the bizarre proportions, the retarded themes, the nasty fetishes and so on.
I fell for that shit back in the 2000's, this was bound to happen again, I would even dare say that moeblob is some sort of propaganda made to tell women that you too should also be more kawiwi and less normal.
No. 2605324
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>>2605315I don't think that's what they were originally thinking of when they made the games, Jap moids just like moeshit and are fine with covering their walls in pink moeblob scrolls, figures and plushies while in the west that's only becoming more acceptable from men within the past few years with fumos and crap.
There are women in Japan who are also into moe galge characters (see: otasa no hime) but I'm not sure when that also started to bleed over to the west (see: cutecore girls)
No. 2605332
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>>2605326Both the artists for the game they were talking about are women. There’s lots of women involved in eroge/moege/etc. But since most people on here don’t like moe,
clearly only scrotes can like it
No. 2605339
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>>2605326The idea is that it all started when scrotes decided to wank to 70s/80s shoujo shows. Magical Princess Minky Momo, for example, had a huge pedo moid audience even though it was originally targeted at little girls, which prompted anime and manga creators to insert similar design elements into stuff made for moids.
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>>2605339There's series that came out pre minky momo that already fell under the moe umbrella though
In the modern day pretty much all moeshit traces back to Rei Ayanami anyway.
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>>2605346>wanting to insert their penis in Fluttershy's horse pussyFuck
nonnie my sides
>>2605347Most of modern otaku culture can be traced back to Eva and Rei was basically the default moe character for a while, famously when they were originally trying to sell merchandise of Eva the actual units didn't sell nearly as well as the figures of Rei in bandages.
Obviously there was stuff before it but Eva as a series really streamlined how modern otaku shit would go down with waifushit and fujoshit as the main pillars.
No. 2605398
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>>2605353Ayrt, ty for explaining! That made me check Rei’s mfc page to see just how intense it was. Can’t believe there’s over 1000 figures of her, you weren’t kidding. I don’t know how that keeps selling, eventually people have to have enough of the same character..
No. 2605404
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>>2605398It's a good thing I'm super picky with Eva figures or I'd be broke kek
>I don't want any Shikinami figures>I don't want any Mari figures or obviously rebuild figures>I don't want any in their plugsuits>I don't want any that are too old and ugly>I don't want any that are too moidyI got rid of most of my Eva figures and now I'm only down to ballet Asuka and some nendos kek, I still want the matching Rei though even though I hate Rei
No. 2605425
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>>260533980s magical girls used to pander really hardly to scrotes. They did several crossover ovas, which sound cool in concept, but the ovas are filled with sexual undertones, in one of them the girls get attacked by fucking tentacle monsters. I really like Minky momo, creamy mami, emi and Persia but fuck the ovas were weird.
No. 2605495
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>"female" first thing in bio
>lolifag
>all their favorite anime is shit with a near exclusive troon fanbase in the west
How painfully low effort can your LARP be? At least say you're a trans"woman" ffs. I've met lesbian lolis (actual women) and not even they have these tastes. It's so obvious
No. 2605501
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Why do smut authors (and their consoomers) have the weirdest priorities ever? They'll slap scary tags like "DUBIOUS CONSENT" on fics because two adult characters get drunk before they fuck, but at the same time, they'll completely fail to mention shit like body horror, niche fetishes, or even "just" trannyism. Based on a true and recent story.
No. 2605795
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>"I'm tired of being forced to play as a female"
>"The whole genre is already saturated by women-only games"
>An Otome game
>A type of JOSEImuke game
I'm fucking sick and tired of yume TIFs and gendies
No. 2605837
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>>2605404Nonna these are gorgeous, I want them now. What other Eva figures did you own/like? I love Asuka but like you I'm so picky and so many are moidy. I don't understand how moids can have something like picrel (and there's far worse) in their house and not feel ashamed.
No. 2605887
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What is the general opinion of GL artists like Rangrarii for example?
Aside from the fact that most people says that outside of smut, their works are very mid
No. 2605919
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>>2605287i wish there was a female equivalent of moeslop including cutesy male characters. i’m not a fan of the typical ikemen in otome games. if only there were more cute male characters with figures there would be less sonico consoomers
wish they went the 18 plus route with this game kek but women can’t have anything No. 2605990
>>2605887This series was so ass I actually spoiled everyone in the comments section kek. It starts bleak, temporarily gets better, but then it becomes bleak again and ends that way. Literally just
>Redhead is a "duke" who buys FL (white hair) to pay off FL's father's debts>Redhead is believed to be male player>Maidservant (black hair) goes with her because she loves FL and wants to protect her>They get to the estate, FL is fully prepared to just be a plaything for this duke.>Redhead is revealed to be a duchess and not a duke>Yay this means the player rumours were all fake>Redhead tells FL she loves her>Maidservant feels weird and is like "I think she's lying. Let's go home.">FL questions everything>Then FL decides to believe redhead and agrees to stay loyal to her>but then the redhead cheats on FL with multiple women, turns out the rumours weren't fake after all>FL just accepts that she will never find happiness and stays with the redhead.>The end.Anyway I actually liked her more lighthearted stories, just wish she would never attempt to do "angst" ever again.
No. 2605999
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>>2605887I haven't read that series but judging from above anon's description I probably won't now. Bad Thinking Diary was recommended to me by my friend who is a fujo because she knows I want more good GL. I've noticed it's quite popular even with straight girls. I think this is because all the girls are drawn very pretty, are fashionable and fit nicely into different tropes. Like Kang is the cool one (who reminds me of Murasame from Sasameki Koto and maybe even Alex from OITB KEK,) Minji is the cute, unaware one that is probably easy to self-insert into and Hyera is the bad bitch, pretty fuck boy. I loved the dynamic between Hyera and Minjae because it was really hot to me and wanted to see more tropes like that in GL. Like a pathetic inexperienced girl lusting after her player senpai and getting toyed with but the senpai ends up actually returning her feelings. But all that said I dropped it because I got bored. Also I wish there was more variety in how they looked and they had bush. The sex scenes were pretty good but not enough for me to keep reading. If I was a teenager I would've been really into it though. I just need a more interesting plot, less sanitized story and more deep characters for me to get invested these days.
No. 2606102
>>2606087I feel like there should be a difference between liking the idea of something and being a fan.
I wouldn't consider myself a fan of a band if I just happen to like one or two songs on the radio, I would just say I like the song. What's wrong with taking that same approach to other forms of media?
If you like a YouTube video about a story but you cant be assed to read the actual source material then you're not a fan of the story, you're a fan of the YouTube video.
No. 2606146
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This guy pisses me off
>noooo you can't ship those fictional characters, the game mechanics means it makes you a bad person
Nevermind that we get plenty of hints of Kris's real personality and feelings, and we know for a fact that they care a ton for Susie and Noelle. He has such a holier than thou and moralistic vision of shipping in general.
No. 2606183
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>>2605332Just because women are involved in making art for moege does not mean they are the target audience. Some of the best hentai artists are women too. It does not change who the content is made for. Let’s be real. The primary audience for moege is lonely, depressed male wagies. And just because some women genuinely enjoy moege does not mean it was made with them in mind either. It is the same kind of logic shitterfags use when they say the CEO of Azur Lane is a woman or Kashino's skin was drawn by a woman so somehow Azur Lane must be aimed at a female audience. It is a cope.
No. 2606363
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Genderbend discourse 5-8 years ago
>Actually genderbending is bad because it's transphobic. I feel so triggered because you just made a genderswap without taking MY issues into account. Just call it sexswap because genderswapping is problematic
Genderbend discourse now (with more post-COVID neets and genshit impact pixelright tards)
>Actually genderbending is misogynistic because you male-centered freaks are ruining a beautiful franchise with beautiful generic moeshit/goonerslop women with your cock-obsession. I love yuri, TWAW, and I'm an autoproclaimed radfem. Pixel moids die smfh.
No. 2606390
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>>2605837I used to own this one but I gave it away a few days ago
There’s a prize figure of her as a child with sunflowers and her plush Monkey that I wish they would make a full scale of since it’s so cute yet melancholic and the figures of her in her school uniform/maid costumes are passable (not that cute though)
That’s kinda it for Asuka kek
I have nendos for Kaworu and Shinji and I used to have that figure of Kaworu holding a black cat (based on the manga illustration) before selling it because it didn’t age well (sticky from plastic aging+old figures just look kinda off compared to new ones) and the really gay 3.0 one is kinda cute (Shinji’s face is a little bit off) but I don’t like rebuild hahaha
I think a lot of the big issues with Eva figures comes down to that they’re not posed super interesting and they’re just the characters in their plug suits standing there/in a sexy pose if it’s one of the girls so they’re pretty boring looking. I’d prefer to see more based on Sadamoto’s artwork like the Ballerina and gothic ones.
No. 2606395
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>>2605919Coming from the fujo perspective, it's unfortunate how the biggest and famous BLVN company (N+Chiral) refuses to put any male characters in their game (at least not anymore) that aren't ikemen or ugly old men like Mink or Takuma, with maybe one or two exceptions. Even the young characters look old as fuck (not pic related). Maybe that's why N+C games are so popular with newfag fujos or at least DMMD and Slow Damage, because it's safe yaoi for people who are vanillafags at heart but aren't interested or are too insecure to (admit they) like actual vanilla slop. It fulfills a false sense of edginess without stuff like shota, incest, or even just younger looking characters or anything else too "
problematic" being shown sexually in their vns.
>spoilerThe artist for the Nekopara otome spinoff is a moid apparently, maybe that's why. What an emasculated pussy (lol) faggot.
No. 2606398
>>2606395I thought this was a redraw of someone's anime twink OC from 2007. Gives me 'designed by a teenager girl who loves MCR, Shugo Chara, and Black Butler'
though it'd probably be more interesting to look at if that were the case.
No. 2606400
>>2606395NTA but the only popular BLge I can think of with shotas are TNC (which you already posted) and Shingakkou
>The artist for the Nekopara otome spinoff is a moid apparentlyLooks like it, the art style is way worse than the original honestly (I’m aware it’s pre AI but they all look AI generated)
>>2606398If you think he looks dated you should see his brother kek
No. 2606403
>>2606146I remember this guy from vidrel. He complained about how some running gag from fucking Chowder of all things was normalizing domestic abuse of men (kek) while also loving similar jokes in other cartoons like the Kanker sisters from Ed edd n eddy.
>>2606363As a lesbian I wish twitter himejos would get it into their heads that straight women are women too and therefore their interest in men is also scorned and shamed. They have every right to express their attraction to men through art. Women are way more sexualized in media so I don't see why they think it's such a crime to do the opposite. Just ignore it.
No. 2606407
>>2606403Kek, I remember this guy
Seems in character for him to make tweets like that for sure.
No. 2606421
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>>2606363>that number of likesUgly fanart but what's with the immense seethe over female to male genderbend fanarts. I remember seeing a similar seethe post over a genderbent fanart of Arcane women that had around 30k likes. It's bizarre that these people are given a platform and even encouraged to bully artists. Pisses me off because the scene is completely flipped when it comes to male characters. I like a fotm yaoi pairing and I see sooo many genderbent art of it daily, drawn by both western and asian artists. They are praised and even encouraged to draw more. There are artists who don't engage with actual yuri media but only draw yuri art of whatever yaoi ship is in the fad. Feels bad that female to male genderbend fanart is already not that popular and the little amount of art that we do get is met with a lot of backlash.
You are completely right about the shift in the narrative kek. Tumblrinas would flip at the existence of genderbend art. Artists had to specify that the characters are troons and not genderbent. Now it has become female to male genderbend bad, male to female genderbend good all fictional characters should be woman and everything is yuri.
No. 2606447
>>2606363As someone with a husbando that got an official genderswap, I hate mtf genderbends so much kek.
My only issue with ftm genderbends is that they tend to be uncreative with the design in general, like the exact same hairstyles or outfits just on a man body.
No. 2606461
>>2606421The narrative, while staying faithful to troonpandering, has been doing mental gymnastics to dance around the backlash the troon movement faces, it seems. To label yourself as a radfem from 5 years to last decade was too uncool for the masses. Now thanks to Genshin being these zoomies' first gacha, labeling yourself as a radfem/himejoshi/yurislop enjoyer has become trendy, since to them, moeshit/goonslop in media is a feminist fantasy. It becomes even worse when you have trannies LARPing as radfems, but unfortunately for them, they're too easily clockable.
Same as 15-20yo himejoshis on Shitter, despite them flashing the lesbian flag and stapling their Genshin/Honkai fav on their strawpage all over, they will always take the safest route and fight against pixelated bishonen. They won't put as much effort against incels and even less against troons (because they believe they're the same).
No. 2606472
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i'm just being bitchy but the anons talking about liking coom proportions in the art salt thread because they're more "realistic" reminds me of the moids commenting about this heckin' wholesome anime series made by a studio known for its ecchi series, and acting like anyone bothered by the mc's physique and obvious male pandering (including foot fetish scenes) are prudes.
No. 2606498
>>2606472>She's got shouldersKek
where? Her design isn't even that bad by itself, but SURELY they can see the weird shading/emphasis on her boobs and butt and connect the obvious dots?
No. 2606504
>>2606480even if a woman did have larger proportions it's a completely inappropriate outfit for being out in the woods to
checks synopsis study rocks. she'd be dressed up in prana or patagonia gear, not skintight jeans and an office blouse.
No. 2606574
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>>2606472I hate anime sexual dimorphism so much. No woman looks like that in tucked in shirts and pants.
No. 2606619
>>2606363I really dont get this one considering they were male to begin with and was genderbent for a waifu gacha game.
Stuff like Twisted Wonderland and Hype Mic get so much gb art too. Its just annoying to say its a political issue.
No. 2606651
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>"[thing] mentioned!" "OMG [thing] PFP SPOTTED!"
SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUP CONTRIBUTE TO THE ACTUAL CONVERSATION AT HAND OR DON'T ENGAGE AT ALL. NO ONE GIVES A FUCK IF YOU LIKE THE SAME THING AS ANOTHER POSTER IN AN UNRELATED POST.
No. 2606665
>>2606642I'm fine with it, but the trend of giving every character giant boobs and slut wear drives me up the wall.
In one case I saw, artists asked a moid creator and even he stated "well, genderbent wise, this character would probably have small boobs. They're athletic and it doesn't seem like it'd fit their personality otherwise lol"
They still give them massive honkers. Its annoying and it looks wrong.
No. 2606746
>>2606741Bad
nonny. Only self diagnosis is
valid.
No. 2606770
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>>2606746I self diagnose her with autism.
No. 2606808
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>>2606741yeah i know that
No. 2606898
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Why are yurifags like this
No. 2606914
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>>2606898I went to find this post just to check the notes and make fun of them but there's nothing there? How tf did you find this kek?
No. 2607034
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>>2606992Yes. Men can go read slop where the male characters are hideous an unsexualized like kaiji or baki. Women have to live being sexualized from birth, i just want what moids have for one microsecond without moids ruining it. Just let me have my power fantasy literally me moment.
No. 2607054
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Copying male degeneracy and calling themselves based for it is peak pickme behavior and showcases a lack of IQ and social development. It's hilarious how they act confused when other female fans don't want to hear about the same nasty tropes they have always been subjected to by moids. "but but I flipped the genders, it should be ok right?" is such a pathetic cope, we don't want to smell poop because poop smells bad, not because who did the shitting
No. 2607058
>>2607054So you want all men to be in business suits with the personalities of cardboard? This is why we'll never go anywhere with female aimed media. It's always the same modest, "women sexy, men designed by a prudish church nun" bullshit that's been shoved down our throats for the past several decades. Just stop please and give us more men in risque yet stylish clothes.
>inb4 I'm just a nobodysay that to the countless pickmes parroting this shit?
No. 2607155
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Remember that this user aside from being exiled from the CKR fandom for drawing a F/F proship, she has (or had) another unlinked account where she drew zoophilic Gundam yuri
No. 2607167
>>2607054>blah blah women are low IQ pickmes for creating whatever content they want, how dare they, etcget a life already
>but but I flipped the genders, it should be ok right?yes. cope and seethe
No. 2607196
>>2607139>based smutWhat she likes.
>low IQ smutWhat she doesn't like.
No. 2607285
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I'm so scared for Bo Bragason, I just know Honter Schafer fans are gonna harrass her nowbthat she's been cast as Zelda
No. 2607322
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>>2607285In a way, I felt like the nerds and incels on Twitter were happy with the actress's casting and would side with her; only the handmaids and trannies were really raging. But I was very relieved; the actress is beautiful, but it seems like that hideous Hunter thing never had a chance, because he's a weird millennial, with a square, hard face despite the plastic surgery.
No. 2607541
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>>2607034Grappler Baki is a big fat sweaty gay yaoi cartoon for ladies stop telling lies you kuso gaki or else I'll will have to unleash my autistic rage on you
No. 2607554
>>2589583>>2589599I got recommended a video about this, kek.
I never had an issue with how she looks in SA2, but I wish people would stop pretending like they care about women's body positivity or whatever the fuck this is. In the end they reduce a woman's value and femininity to the size of her breasts, which is still misogynistic.
No. 2607574
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>>2607285How are they so delusional they actually thought a busted 5'10 giant-shouldered male was going to be cast in the role of a dainty young princess? Not to mention loz is for.. Literal children. Why would they cast a male as a character thats meant to be a role model to young girls? This sort of thing really makes me realize how much of an isolated hugbox these people live in. Their sense of reality is totally fucked.
No. 2607634
>>2607054you're right, also the use of porn or drag queen terms, those are from men for men. who wants to emulate that, disgusting.
>>2607058she never said anything about business suits? where do you get that from?
No. 2607678
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One of the most hilarious things to happen in the ALNST fanbase is Vivinos dropping a scribble of Luka in a dress and Hyuna in a suit for their wedding, just a day after a huge discourse was happening around how Hyuna would never wear a suit and gendies were busy deciding what kind of dress she would wear.
I have never been one of those retards who keeps pushing barefoot and mpreg Luka x girlboss Hyuna. But the people who keep trying to turn her into this bastion of femininity, constantly harping on about how feminine and girly she is are equally insufferable almost cult-like in how obsessed they are with performative femininity.
No. 2607818
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>>2607761I think it all began with picrel. Someone thought it would be a good idea to seethe in the qrts over a fanart of Hyuna in a dress. The artist made a post about it which somehow found its way to the "Black and brown characters especially women get masculinized because of racial stereotypes" crowd.
The end result is more women seething about fanon Hyuna getting masculinized than actual masculinization happening in the first place.
>>2607723Alnst is not anything spectacular, but worth checking out. Just avoid the cancerous zoomer fanbase. One wrong take and they will crucify you.
No. 2607907
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>>2607818jfc i thought this character was a black woman but apparently picrel is the og design? wtf
No. 2607909
>>2606651More obnoxious than this, why do kpopies and other musician stans camp out in the replies of random posts just to take a word out of context that so happens to be the name of whatever garbage song or music video of their bias and then spam it in the replies like
>"IS [song title] WHAT?" No one thinks this is funny.
No. 2607920
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Uuuugghhhh
No. 2607922
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>>2607054Criticizing random women you don't know on the internet because they don't fit your model of womanhood is peak pickme behavior. Free yourself, nona. It does not matter.
No. 2608063
>>2607960Its just anything nonna isn't into lol.
There really is a genetic urge to make their bitching morally justified.
No. 2608069
>>2607541your picrel is so unbelievably ugly
>>2607907it’s just lighting. stop being dramatic
No. 2608109
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>fandom friend is a well-meaning liberal normie type, supports troons but has probably never met one irl
>discuss a story where a male character gets his dick cut off (it's not what it sounds like mkay)
>"hey Anon, I've been thinking of doing a fix-it for this, maybe I should do some research on phalloplasty"
Please fucking let her peak please please please
No. 2608270
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>>2608232>SCPFeelsbad. It started out as a fun creepypasta site with a scientific backdrop, then went to autistic power-level OCfagging with a side order of trannyism and barely disguised fetishes. The Gorillaz lore also became super normiefied over the years to the point where the characters barely have personalities now. Most of it is definitely just the writers getting lazier but I think the newer fanbase has something to do with it.
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>>2608154Me two years ago: "man, it'd be nice if dungeon meshi got an anime, it could look so cool"
No. 2608312
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>>2608288Anime on streaming services was a mistake
No. 2608317
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>>2608302lol what, female sexuality has always been shaped by men, even before porn. I dont envy my mother or grandma and i am glad i get to be a woman in the era of lads and nukani so i never have to please a single man in my life.
No. 2608323
>>2608312i wish burgers never got to anime and it stayed a weird nerd thing only.
All the netflix anime is terrible too.
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A whole month later and they’re still fucking coping, holy shit.
No. 2608408
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>>2608376b-b-but fusions are not analogy for sex
No. 2608455
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>>2608417Zoomers are weak as shit we millenials grew up on this. My sexual awakening was to a Rocko's modern life episode where he gets ugly bastard'd by the fat female frog neighbour.
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>>2608376Remember when Steven fused with his dad and sung a love song? I remember.
No. 2608473
>>2608472I think they're specifically talking about the people who
continuously rage about the thing they hate to the point where it lives rent-free in their heads. I also don't believe they're always secretly into it, but it does come across like they're obsessed.
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>>2608457What if it happened with anime but on tv? Is that more zoomer or more millennial?
No. 2608497
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>>2608084See you in the friendfinder
No. 2608509
File: 1752789806473.mp4 (1.75 MB, 640x360, FUCK BEES (Remastered).mp4)
>>2608505don't open that can of worms
No. 2608522
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>>2607034>kaiji90% of its fanbase are fujos with mass psychosis where they ship the protagonist with a man in an entirely different series and 30 years his senior I have not seen a single male kaiji fan who is into it beyond zawa zawa and kino anime reasons. anything can be sexualized and female gaze if you put your heart to it.
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>>2608522samefag, never underestimate the power of fangirl autism
No. 2608536
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>>2607070>>2608520>>2607959nta, but she's clearly referring to this kind of bullshit, this weird "fandom sexuality" where you can't even talk about the normal biological functions of men and women, everything has to be subverted, even if it defies biological reality.
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>>2608408A lot of the fusions in the show don't occur between couples. Steven fuses with all of the Crystal gems, and the gems fuse with each other for utilitarian purposes several times. Also, way to sound like a Fox News correspondent in 2004 by implying that marriage equals sex, therefore showing married
gay couples on TV is functionally the same as airing gay porn. What about all the Disney movies that end with marriages? Are those teaching kids about sex?
>>2608376That's not sex, that's an innuendo. Shit like that has been in cartoons for ages. Is picrel also an evil showrunner putting sex in a kids' show?
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>>2608542Thats fine
nonny, apology accepted.
No. 2608552
>>2608536I figured it was a snide remark on the husbando/waifu threads because of
>>2607187.
No. 2608561
>>2608538the post they're replying to doesnt say its about lolcow specifically though half this threads are shitting on fans on twitter/tumblr, i thought she was complaining about that sort of behaviour from fandom in those spaces, especially since its been discussed before how so many characters get this treatment
>>2608536 and just get feminized for like no reason kek
also i keep seing comments like that from people that arent into mpreg like whats the point then? why not just say you want to fuck him or something?? No. 2608564
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>>2608544Mpreg is funny as shit anyone who sees mpreg and has deep thoughts about it instead of having a laugh at the absurdity of it is mentally challenged. It's like having a hatred towards vore or other autistic fetishes, it's so fucking retarded you sound as dedicated to it as the spergs that get off to it.
No. 2608582
>>2608562They're talking about fingering an actual male celebrity. Is everything okay as long as it's just talking? George Carlin is just talking, is that okay for kids to watch? Not to mention, there are instances were straight crap for kids involves physical sexual gags: Who Framed Roger Rabbit has several of these jokes.
Just admit you're only assblasted about this because the showrunner is a woman and/or you're disgusted with lesbians.
No. 2608592
>>2608578>turn any straight woman into a lesbian and any actual lesbian couple into a troon x lesbianayrt and all the ways people try to have the moral highground is so anoying, i personally dont mind the lesbians ships of random female characters but when they make it tropey and act like its revolutionary it is a bit dumb, making one of them a troon does gross me out though, no matter if its a canon ship or not, same with the yaois, dont dislike fujos but i cant stand the tifs kek
trannies in fandom make it all one gigantic narc space to get their egos stroked under the guise of acceptance and progresiveness, cant enjoy anything ever unless its about them
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>>2608536it's related but not exactly the same phenomenon, this is a result of projecting onto male characters
and reading too much porn about their feminized forms, which makes you forget that they are actually male, it's weird with 2D characters but with 3D men it becomes delusional
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>>2608578>you can not just like something you have to be subversive about itTo be fair, if you're a woman genuinely into something unconventional or niche, you just get shit on.
>turn any straight woman into a lesbian and any actual lesbian couple into a troon x lesbianI blame this phenomenon on the retards that convinced fandom as a whole is inherently queer.
No. 2608609
>>2608593Not really, because you only have a finite amount of hours in the say and time on this Earth. I've used this metaphor before, but getting angry at women over mpreg while men are doing shit like raping shaved orangutans is like trying to fix a broken toaster
and trying to put out the giant fire engulfing your house at the same time. Obviously it's not a
good thing that the toaster is broken, but the house being on fire is a way more pressing issue, and trying to juggle both those problems is plainly idiotic.
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>>2608588I've seen mpreg and mbirth (???) art drawn by male barafags. Let me tell you, the shit drawn by TIFs is fucking
nothing in comparison.
No. 2608618
>>2608610I think the most traumatizing factor of barafag mpreg is that it either looks like shit
in a literal sense or it comes out of the uretha. moid brains are broken
No. 2608623
>>2608610The thought put into anatomy is both impressive and unnerving.
I'm very happy to stick to time skip stork flown babies.
No. 2608639
>>2608596Uh yes it certainly does. If you went into ANY thread here and said
>Durr lolcow is politically neutral, not everyone here hates troonsYou'd be fucking dragged to hell and back. Also
>L-leave the poor lesbophobe aloneNo,
she should leave lesbians alone. Gay women are not degenerates, and lesbians should be permitted to marry like any other couple. Two women getting married has no affect on your ability to be a barefoot pregnant housewife to some walled moid. You're still free to share a bed with the architects of your oppression as much as you like, you just shouldn't be able to force gay women to do that.
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>>2608618>out of the urethraSomething about that is so weirdly male but I can’t really explain why
No. 2608650
>>2608639Nta but true. I reported those posts.
>>2608642Nta KEK reminds me of my friend years ago sending me a picture of her pregnant male sim with "HE GOT ABDUCTED??????"
No. 2608652
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>>2607054Reactions like this is why I'll never care about "copying male degeneracy." The most benign horniness gets enough shit.
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>>2608618I can understand why an autistic woman might like mpreg but i will literally never understand why a moid is into that shit, it feels depraved instead of goofy
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>>2608508the description on this video is weird as fuck.
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Does anyone else feel there's been a dearth of fan content beyond low effort memes? Like I actually find this funny but I miss when fans drew silly comics of plausible AUs or in-universe events instead of just sticking a character in a tweet.
No. 2608707
>>2608672I'd bet money that I've been here longer than you. Also, any anon on this site who advocated for polilez or admitted she was one would be viciously clowned on. A lot of the most ardent radfems here are volcel or 4B, not lesbians. The actual lesbians here tend to be less extreme. And in any case, the non-cow threads are covered in BP and radfem rhetoric. This would be an absolutely miserable website to use for someone who wasn't at least sympathetic to radfem talking points.
There's no reason for anons who hate lesbians to be here when Kiwifarms exists.
No. 2608710
>>2608692Good point. I guess I was thinking of western fandom when I asked the question. It's like something happened in the 2010s where the quality of western fan content started declining…
>>2608694That makes sense for this context kek ty. NGL I have noticed that danganronpa fan archives barely exist. Is that a reflection of the quality of them at the time? (e.g. not good enough to preserve, or lost media because of site deletions/blog deletions, or it just didn't exist in the first place because they were all kids?)
No. 2608727
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Nonnies where did all the high quality anime gifs go all I get is tenorshit
No. 2608748
>>2608728Yeah, a lot of people are genuinely just very dumb and self-absorbed. I don't know how else to say it, they do not think about the bigger picture. I've accepted that there isn't really much hope for women as a collective because not only are there too many retards, people are being
made retarded, and our sex has been beaten into compliance so long that those of us who don't think that way will always be dragged down by idiots who do unless some kind of mass anti pickme eugenics program is enacted. It's not just race, it's practically anything. So many women will target and disregard each other for male crumbs, or just no reason at all, then wonder why nothing's getting better for any of us.
The seething bait reply you got just hammers the point home further (assuming it was even made by a woman, you know we can't even have female spaces on the internet), kek. But let's talk about something more lighthearted nonna.
>>2608652"Omg so weirddd" and she's probably dating a man who gets off to something far worse. Everything they come up with as examples for large numbers of women being "just as bad as men" ends up being so tame. The LADs controversy just highlights the difference even more, but they keep trying to force something that isn't there.
No. 2608763
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This thread is either weirdly cosy despite the relentless autism or an absolute schizo spergfest with baiters saying horrible shit, there's no in between
No. 2608764
>>2608753I think this is exactly what
>>2608731 meant, i suppose they just want to be left alone instead of being brought up by retards to validate their shitty arguments
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>>2608760
>I won't feel bad if/when "she" gets beaten and brutalized by stronger men
thanks nonna, i like you so much more now
No. 2608783
>>2608772i'm
>>2608751, i'm not involved in that racial discussion wtf
No. 2608787
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>>2608154"i wish more people would watch more obscure media!"
No. 2608798
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>>2608786Found his face. He was shilling his YouTube channel here and there, and even /fit/ didn't like him for his retarded demeanor.
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/71454452/https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/71377408/So many scrotes are literally too low-IQ to cover their tracks, and they always try to damage control with the most transparent excuses. If you suspect someone's a scrote, don't doubt it.
No. 2608800
>>2608797What exactly did you google to get that reaction image with that filename? Why do you still type and act the same faggot way?
Who said anything about black men raping you? It's shocking how he "mutt's law" thing is absolutely true when it comes to brain-dead, porn addicted moids.
No. 2608829
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Based nonnies. THREAD CLEANSE.
No. 2608830
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No. 2608835
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No. 2608837
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No. 2608838
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>>2608829We march on nona
No. 2608840
>>2608829Before I clicked the thumbnail, Bakugou's hand position made me think he was
also pregnant. Has that ever happened in a fic/dj/manga before?
Both characters getting mpreg at the same time?
No. 2608848
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>>2608829MPREG WON(i have no idea whats going on)
No. 2608858
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>>2608732If they depict it half the fandom is going to be "this is such a realistic portrayal we need more attention brought to female on male rape, it's just as bad!" and the other half is going to be "god that is so hot, I wish a hot dummy mommy did that to me". Guess which genders will be saying which.
No. 2608864
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>>2608858When did male rape stop being a funny and absurd concept and became something moids unironically cry about. Why are men so week nowadays, i swear the average scrote is constantly competing with tumblrinas to see who is the most opressed snowflake.
No. 2608882
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>>2608858>OH NO HOT WOMAN RIDING ME NON CONSENSUALLYWOW idgaf. Even the woman on male rape depicted there is super tame in comparison to when a man does it to another man. Men want to be oppressed so badly lul
No. 2608925
>>2608882>OH NO HOT WOMAN RIDING ME NON CONSENSUALLYExactly, lmao.
>woman gets raped, portrayed with only regards to the man's pleasure>man gets raped, portrayed with only regards to the man's pleasureHMMM
No. 2608938
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>>2608925It’s so funny that they make his rapist this super sexy woman with giant boobs instead of an actual ugly/beastly woman. Maybe that one anon was right about how maybe “ugly bastard “women should start being a thing. Maybe then moids will be able to see how awful rape actually is. This shit is so lukewarm.
No. 2608950
>>2608858You can tell this was made by a retarded leftist man trying to figure out “what if the shoe was on the other foot….”
Like her porny way of speaking, his flat “no”s, the fact that she’s hot, his immediate and on-the-nose emotional reaction. Idk how to describe it exactly, but it’s just a perfect distillation of how leftist moid coomer mind interprets rape. No one else would write something quite like this.
It bothers me the target audience/fan base is the exact same kind of man and will call this a masterpiece.
No. 2608984
>>2608692Have you not noticed that it is only the asians who do that quality art of Link and Zelda? The americans are too busy being completely retarded and wanking over muh heteronormativity, then making Link into a std-riddled troon in a badly drawn shitty calarts artstyle.
You’d expect the Japanese fandom to be the one with the more degeneracy but they’re the minority. It’s all americans pushing the worst shit. I even saw some whine over Link’s actor for the movie not being some walled american scrote for their filthy redneck selves to project onto
No. 2608991
>>2608858Kek even if they try to make it look serious it just looks so ridiculous because this type of rape doesn't even exist in real life. No man gets "raped" that way because they can overpower women any time. No man is getting raped by a woman riding them.
If they wanted to show that they're
victims of rape, they should have a male rape another male because that's what actually happens. But no, that's not sexy! That doesn't make their dicks hard like this does!
No. 2608997
>>2608979They think all sex is good sex and rape happens when one party just randomly decides to say “for no reason at all I choose not to consent”. They’ve listened to enough women in their lives/in the media say how rape is the most traumatic thing ever so when they write rape it’s just this.
Man is having sex with super hot chick and randomly says no, she doesn’t listen, then he immediately bursts into treats in a horrific emotional breakdown. It’s so stupid. They really do not get it at all.
I think men just simply lack that instinct to protect their reproductive organs, and the fear associated with someone “usurping” them in some way. Females having so much at stake from any sexual encounter causes some primordial aversion response. Men just don’t hate this, sex is basically consequence free, in fact, a huge bonus for him reproductively speaking.
I think that’s why the violation seems to be centered on some sort of perspective dissonance. “You thought I wanted you but I didn’t”, upset that the woman would insist “he wants me”. It’s not like he has anything else at stake.
I also think this is why “consent” is praxis in leftoid spaces, it’s the only way males can really understand what “rape” is themselves. The worst possibility is having a firm “no” contested. It’s not like they are being taken advantage of, just disregarded.
No. 2609018
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I'm so tired of fandoms treating every character interaction like it's BDSM act in disguise. I'm not pornbrained enough for this bullshit.
No. 2609052
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>>2607993Baki Hanma is more attractive than the entirety of the Jojo cast
the rest of Baki are all ugly as shit though i agree No. 2609057
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>>2609018Agreed,
nonnie. I've started to ignore friends when they start going oooh daddy slap me uwu and only reply when they talk like normal human beings. Constant fandom shitposts like picrel annoyed me enough that I pushed jjk all the way to the end of my watch list, I will only watch the show once the hype dies down
No. 2609391
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>>2609374Nta, but I particularly like reverse ryona because I have a savior complex and I want to fix him and be the only person who cares about him.
I love the idea of a hot anime guy being so helpless and traumatized to the point that he wouldn't let anyone touch him except me because I'm different and not evil like everyone else. I wouldn't want to hurt him, I don't even want to hear or see him getting hurt, but I do want to see the aftermath of the pain.
I really doubt any person with empathy would want to actively hurt someone they love, which confirms my hypothesis of moids being soulless husks.
No. 2609412
>>2609374Tbh it had nothing to do with intentionally trying to subvert the patriarchy or anything political, even as a kid I would rewind and play back clips of men in pain, suffering or what not.
I think I just like the look in a man's eyes, the desperation, lack of control, being unable to run away and excuse themselves from suffering etc. (I had a boy mom, so) In my edgier younger years I thought of a man's tears as exceptionally precious because in media it was usually considered "wrong" to show.
No. 2609446
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>>2609374Personally I don't see it as revenge porn, reverse ryona isn't something I got into out of man hate. I just find that 2D guys look cute and vulnerable when they get injured from fighting or something like that. It makes me want to take care of him. I also like it when 2D guys are soft and kind so when these overlap it's especially good.
No. 2609461
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>>2609001>"fans" only joke about mpreg because of Geto's powers Oh its not a joke. They are sincerely convinced he is a woman. I am not even in that fanbase anymore but just today some new clips came out, and they all were gushing over how pretty he is, just like a woman. Many of them keep calling him a woman and a girl and they all use she/her pronouns for him. Its strange. And of course, there is that proshitter account getoswomb who is completely on a different level of mental illness.
No. 2609467
>>2609374i jusf think its hot when men get hurt and cry. human sexuality is not that intellectual, but no amount of asserting
i like it cause its hot will get fandomheads and antifujos to listen
No. 2609470
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>>2609450She also
allegedly drew this picture of Pearl and Greg fucking with bizarre rapey undertones, but it's even worse because it feels like the artist thinks this situation is cute kek. Repoast because I forgot to spoiler it.
No. 2609474
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>>2609450It's not that much of a crazy idea tbh, I think Rebecca Sugar really likes the idea of being deceived or deceiving someone by disguising as someone else, or just deceiving/being deceived in general.
No. 2609480
>>2609450she also seems to have a thing for characters being some kind of distraught/crying during those comics kek, like there needs to be some kind of emotional upheaval and stress all the time when it comes to intimacy. Don't know if this is the case for 100% of her smut doodles, but she does seem the type to thin angst and tears makes things deeper and more 'real' by default.
Not criticising her for this really, she just seems to have some concepts that repeat across her work (that aren't unique to her, but imo aren't done very well by her)
No. 2609482
>>2609477Yeah, I'm not outraged over it or anything I just think her smut is autistic and funny
>>2609478Nobody is 100% sure, a lot of people think she
is the artist but it's never been confirmed
No. 2609485
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>>2609470This makes me sick. Fucking hate that ugly ass scrote. Isn't Pearl a lesbian too? I guess it's not explicitly stated and gems are have no GeNdEr or whatever bullshit but the way she obsessed over that dumb fatty Rose/Pink Diamond and got a crush on that human that looked like her, then started flirting with Bismuth, it's just implied she is one. I use to watch this show as a teen so I have a bit of a soft spot for it but yuck Rebecca's mind if that is her art…
No. 2609490
>>2609412>>2609374I was that troublesome kid who enjoyed beating boys when I was a kid, It gave me a little rush in both seeing myself as the dominant one and them as the submissive sobbing/feeling hurt.
It was no surprise to suddenly grow up to enjoy something similar in a sexual way.
No. 2609496
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>>2609470GOD I forgot to mention this too! So fucking weird. I don't know why she would do Pearl dirty like this.
>>2609477I'm not saying she should be cancelled, it's just weird. I know plenty of creepy male animators and cartoon creators (I'm sure all of us here have at least heard of John K.).
>>2609479So true but also bums me out after a while.
>>2609480Lowkey think I have a thing for this too but even I think it's unsexy. Now that you mention it yeah, it happens a lot throughout the show. If, big if, I wanna see/read RosexPearl smut I do NOT wanna have to get through "weewaawaa Rose doesn't love me back" I just wanna see big pink lesbo fuck twiggy white lesbo.
>>2609495So true Stacey!
(ai outside of containment) No. 2609529
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>>2609524
My dad used to watch a lot of war and boxing movies and it completly ruined me. Now i just see men being hurt as manly and attractive and i cannot fix my brain. It's probably why i like himbos too, to me an intelligent man is just a gay nerd and real men are beating the shit out of eachother and dying in war. Thanks, dad.
No. 2609656
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Fujos, yumes, himes, they will never never understand the pain of being a childhood friends to lovers truthers. We are the most opressed class.
No. 2609670
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>>2609659I somehow managed to get cucked twice in an anime. Twice. How is that possible.
No. 2609687
>>2609052lies
>>2609374I like male vulnerability in general so him being in physical pain is just an extension of that
No. 2609708
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>>2605339>>2605425>>2605495Kinda off topic but I will always hate that the first ever hentai heavily featured lolicon and popularized it. It all traces back to Lolita Anime 1984. I don't think lolicon would have been a thing that's known for today if it weren't for this. Very disgusting of Japan to feature child characters in porn animations.
No. 2609719
>>2609687>>2609391This, I like male vulnerability and being the only one to save a lonely, desperate (cute) moid. Who's also of course obsessed with me beyond measure.
And will feverishly inflict ryona onto other moids if he feels insecure.
>>2609374For the reasons above, it's really really really hot. The idea of a deeply traumatized moid that clings to you and will do anything for you is immensely erotic (maybe not in real life tho because then hed keep sperging out).
No. 2610044
>>2609708Lolicon was alrady a thing by then
nonny. It started in comiket as a way for moids to colonize a space for women and make it degenerate.
No. 2610072
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Getting back into undertale after the recent release of chapter 4, and it is crazy that characters like temmie were sexualized, and not just because she's am avatar of a real person. At least Asriel kinda made sense, shes humanoid, temmie just registers as a dog thing to me, it's probably because shes female
No. 2610073
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>>2610057I recommend ''Otaku and the Struggle for Imagination in Japan'' talks about how moids started fetishizing the shoujo art-style and infiltrating shojo mangazines, eventually leading to them making lolicon and publishing it on comiket to spite female bl fans. Funny how moids cry about women ruining everything when they were the first ones to infiltrate shojo and make it degenerate and pedophilic.
No. 2610091
>>2610073Men are so fucking evil jfc. It really says a lot about them as a species that their reaction to women drawing boys kissing was to spam thinly-veiled child porn.
In that same vein, why does a conservative culture like Japan tolerate the complete oversaturation of porn, often including particularly heinous stuff like incest and pedophilia? I remember once reading an article where the journalist interviewed a guy who made child gravure and asked him how he'd feel if his own kids were filmed like that. He said he'd kill himself out of shame. What the fuck kind of cognitive dissonance is going on there? He should kill himself out of shame regardless of whose kid it is. How can a culture so full of shame also be totally shameless like this?
No. 2610115
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>>2610091yup, the term ''lolita complex'' originates from a shoujo manga written by men and published on a shoujo magazine. Wada Shinji is the author of sukeban deka, who did art for the lolicon magazine petit apple pie. When women are allowed in ''boy's clubs'' the worst thing we do is get rid of some sonic furry's tits, when men are allowed into female spaces they create drawn child pornography
No. 2610139
>>2609890>>2610044Even so, you got to admit it's super messed up the first ever released Hentai had these child characters. even in one episode there was this scene with
a little black boy (he was literally drawn black) that was making out with the green haired girl (the protagonist) in a bedroom just disturbing and repugnant.
No. 2610157
>>2610139sorry
nonny to be pendantic but it's based on a manga published on a lolicon magazine lol
No. 2610196
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>>2610166Yeah. I feel sorry for the woman that was forced to participate in this putrid shit.
No. 2610215
>>2610166The most popular animated Hentai series was Cream Lemon and func fact it actually was one of Hideaki Annos first times directing, he made two or three OVAS for that and it was notable since he was the one coomer so proud to work there that he is the only staff member credited with his real name.
Project A-Ko was supposed to be the third ova for Cream Lemon and then was made into its own thing, and that was a very influential piece of work.
Where i am going with this rambling is anime tropes and history is simbiotic with lolicon hentai. and no one who knows anything can ever deny it.
No. 2610242
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>>2608520i don't run anything, everyone can do whatever say whatever and be into whatever they want kek. i can't give a good response to this question either because i'm into stuff that would get me/has gotten me called a tranny here. just do whatever you want. i can't stop you kek
No. 2610250
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>>2610115This Alice in Wonderland shoujo manga is also where the term Lolita Fashion may have had originated from, unfortunately. If it wasn't for that manga, the fashion would be named something completely different. That man did not only infiltrate a shoujo magazine but ruined the name of an entire alternative fashion for women.
>The term "Lolita complex" was first coined by Russell Trainer in 1966 in his book by the same name. This book was something of a sensationalized, tabloid style, faux-psychological piece that was meant to titillate and was simply piggybacking off of a much more popular book.
>Shortly after publication, this bit of trashy reading was translated into Japanese, the term was then referenced in the 1974 shoujo manga Stumbling Upon A Cabbage Field, an Alice In Wonderland parody. Already do we have Alice, the Lolita's patron saint, being mingled with the word "Lolita"! After this first usage, in the late 70's and early 80's, "lolicon", as it was then shortened to, was used in reference to fan-favorite girly characters. Many early anime characters that had the otaku term "lolita" aimed at them were often simply cute female characters, largely from shoujo series, and there seemed to be significantly less stigma against the term at the time. It seems to have had a much "tamer" definition than it is infamous for now. Although the Lolita fashion would not be named such until many years later, both of these ideals had their roots in this era.
>While, as far as anyone seems to be aware, the term "Lolita" for the fashion didn't get placed on it until the early-to-mid 90's, the aesthetic connection between these cute young shoujo heroines, Alice in Wonderland, and these young women wearing romantic and childlike dresses was already there. While nowadays outsiders to the fashion like to make the connection from the extremely OTT Sweet Lolita outfits to the risque otaku term neither of these things were as extreme as they are now when the fashion first got its name.
>Why did Lolita's accept the term in the first place?This is another unknown, but Lolitas in Japan are frequently as annoyed as Lolitas in the west are for the connotation. Lolitas in Japan even adopted a different spelling to the word to differentiate themselves, at the very least online. While Lolita is normally written "ロリータ", many Lolitas choose the variation "ロリィタ", in which the usual "i" is substituted for a small "i". However, many publications and webshops use the typical "ロリータ". This practice reminds me of years ago, when in the west Lolitas would frequently refer to the fashion with the Japanese pronunciation/spelling of "rorita" for exactly the same reason.
>>2610226Found it (quoting it above)
http://www.fyeahlolita.com/2013/11/why-is-lolita-called-lolita-does-lolita.html?m=1 No. 2610261
>>2610226>>2610250>I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that blogpost. The term Lolita had a big boom in Japan in the 80s, so indirectly yeah it would if that’s the origin. I don’t think it’s like it was directly inspired by this manga though and more like the term osmosis-ed into the culture. I don’t remember if it was the same blog or a different one but I also remember an entry discussing a magazine from the 80s the described the “lolita girl” as a type of woman who dressed and acted very girly and cute and was immature and self centered, with some examples of girly fashion from the time.Yes exactly
nonny, still pretty sad a moid indirectly influenced it
No. 2610273
>>2610261>The term "Lolita complex":>summary:>Through the use of case histories, professional opinions, court transcripts, interviews and police records, the author investigates the activities of real-life Lolitas and Humberts and offers insight into an important social problem. The book provides an abundance of case studies of such relationships in different parts of the country. These real life dramas demonstrate the prevalence of sexual experiences between young girls and older men, and the reasons for such relationships are carefully analyzed.
>Shortly after publication, this bit of trashy reading was translated into JapaneseOkay so the
origin of lolita in japan is lolita in the west. That makes sense
No. 2610278
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>>2610250This reminded me, I have seen it said that characters like Lum and Minmay were originally considered to be "loli".
No. 2610291
>>2610273The ultimate irony in all of this is that Lolita (the book) was meant to be
critical of men like Humbert.
No. 2610304
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>>2610278>16 year old Clarisse d'Cagliostro from Studio Ghibli's The Castle of Cagliostro (1979). One of the first characters to be considered "Lolicon". About a million degrees removed from the modern term.from the blog linked above
No. 2610306
>>2610286>Japan isn't conservative like that because of religion though so I'm curious as to what the fuck happened here exactly.There's things that aren't socially acceptable to talk about but happen all the time. It reminds me of the honne tatemae thing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne_and_tatemaeProstitution and degeneracy is so common and normalized and yet it's something people don't really talk about in Japan. Like an open secret. And rumours can quite literally ruin a person's life over there
No. 2610325
>>2610309Have you read the book? Because reading Lolita and siding with Humbert is sort of like watching Bojack Horseman and siding with Bojack. Like the main character is so clearly a reprehensible human being, you really don't need Nabokov to add a footnote being all like, "Hey everyone, this guy is a Bad Person and I do not endorse this behavior in real life." Yes, the novel was nonetheless interpreted by a lot of retards as being a "romance" (a characterization Nabokov himself rejected) and that Dolores was a "seductress." Believe it or not, shit media literacy was a problem even back before the internet was invented.
I prefer when these sorts of narratives about sexual abuse are written by women, obviously. I find that moids mishandle this subject matter 99% of the time. However, I do think Lolita has merit as an examination of the thought processes of predators. Can I be certain Nabokov's motivations for writing it were 100% pure? No, but I think it's a story that warranted being told, and the outsized moral panic over the book is largely why it became so famous.
No. 2610332
>>2610309The book Lolita is about a pedo's memoir, published post-humourously after he died in prison, defending himself on why he shouldn't be in prison while sounding exactly like the type of predator who should be in prison for life. The author wrote it to show people how psycho pedos are by using their charm to manipulate the people around them. Also it showed how much people ignore any signs of abuse because the girl was more miserable as the story went on.
The author even said "Do not put a girl on the cover. Only show Humbert looking sad and miserable in prison." What did publishing companies do? Market it as a forbidden love story and put a sexy girl on the cover. It was so fucked.
No. 2610333
>>2610306So the logic is just "be as depraved as you want as long as you don't talk about it"? Or something? There are literally skyscrapers with giant posters of anime tiddy waifus in Akihabara, how is that "concealing one's true desires," as the philosophy stipulates?
^Btw this is what
>>2610316 and
>>2610319 are replying to. I deleted because the anon I replied to deleted her post to edit it.
>As for prostitution being normalized I still can't get over that time in Shibuya where I saw a soapland right next to a small police stationThis tracks. Japan was found to be non-compliant with TVPA human trafficking law standards for nearly every year since the State Department started publishing the TIP report. Japan's approach to sex crimes seems to be to just pretend they're not happening until some uniquely heinous crime make international news.
No. 2610340
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>>2610316Social pressure and bullying is just that intense in East Asia, even more if you are female. Family reputation is also very important, if your family member does something wrong you're also part of the problem. You can't stand out and you must do your best to never bother others.
I will never forget the time they made an idol shave her hair to apologize to her male fans.
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>>2610336Chris Hansen also seems to be "consumed with the idea of pedophilia" but I sorta doubt he's a pedo himself (although he's a moid, so there's always a nonzero chance).
No. 2610350
>>2610344>it's not like westerners are talking about porn and onlyfans in the officeMainly because that's a great way to get BTFO by Human Resources and lose your job kek. When burger moids feel like they can get away with it, they absolutely talk about sex and porn at work. Ffs, one of our presidents literally got away with fucking one of his interns in the damn White House, and that's to say nothing of the degenerate
currently in office.
No. 2610351
>>2610333>I deleted because the anon I replied to deleted her post to edit it.Sorry nonna, I spelled something wrong before
>Japan's approach to sex crimes seems to be to just pretend they're not happening until some uniquely heinous crime make international news.It annoys the hell out of me. They can't protect women, sometimes they don't even listen to them even if they're getting stalked and harassed. This is why I don't believe in the opinion that Japan is "safe", not for women at least
No. 2610589
>>2610351It's safe in the sense if you drop your wallet somewhere you can probably come back to that place and still find it. But like you said, there's so many issues with incompetent police, molestation, how openly you can find degenerate shit. I remember going on exchange when I was 14 and having an outing with my host and her friend. We went to a store that sold anime merch and manga. The top floor, which we could access, had a whole section of hentai out in the open.
>>2610352Also seconding this. Worked at a call center and one of the stupid scrotes that was showing me the ropes casually mentioned pornhub when he was talking about what websites not to access. I don't care if it was a joke I didn't laugh. Hate when that sort of thing can be mentioned so casually.
No. 2610593
>>2610589>Hate when that sort of thing can be mentioned so casually.That's tame compared to what I've heard in workplaces before, and I wouldn't be surprised if he mentioned that because someone else tried it, was caught and probably fired. A lot of people don't realize that companies can easily check what employees do with computers. In my case I had to deal with former coworkers telling me about having sex in way too many details, their favorite "feminist" porn videos, etc. I think in all the companies I worked with coworkers would say tmi all the time because they don't give a shit or even wanted to be fired, they're best friends with other coworkers and think everyone in the office needs to hear their private conversations, or they think it's normal which most other coworkers agreed with.
>I remember going on exchange when I was 14 and having an outing with my host and her friend. We went to a store that sold anime merch and manga. The top floor, which we could access, had a whole section of hentai out in the open.A few years ago I went to Osaka and visited some stores, found what looked like a normal nerd store selling figurines, keychains, graphic tshirts, just anything related to mainstream anime and video games on the first floor and when I saw what was written in Japanese on the elevator's door for the other floors it was all either porn or sex toys. I can already imagine someone clueless just expecting more things like manga, clothes, more figurines, etc. and taking the stairs or the elevators. I just left the store before seeing anything and showed the list of degeneracy to my friends, we had a good laugh.
No. 2610606
>>2610593AYRT and I worked in a really open office, as in no wall dividers or anything. You could easily see what was on people's screens and also hear their calls. If that was the case and someone did try it that's both pathetic and gross…Also sorry you had to work with so many nasty retards. I probably would've just given them rbf or ignore them. That's the kind of thing you should be able to report to higher ups but they sound like the type to make a big deal out of it if they found out it was you, ugh.
Also about those hentai stores, they should really monitor who goes in and out of them. I think in retrospect I'm not shocked they exist but just that we were able to access it when we were underage.
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>>2607993It’s wild how y’all seem totally cool with hedgehog/monster/kirby fuckers, but relentlessly and systematically clown the nonnas into roidpigs — and let’s not pretend JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure isn’t just the same lineup of dumb muscle freaks fighting each others ,but dressed like bargain-bin drag queens on top of that kekk
>>2609052Wrong. You forget Jack, Doyle, Retsu, Sikorsky, Katsumi and Pickle.
No. 2610743
>>2610683Because roidpig fags are cringe whereas kirby and sonic fuckers understand they are cringe and have shit taste and dont act like
victims when anons mock them.
No. 2610775
>>2610747In fandom discourse not even that long ago a
nonnie sperged for hours that her ryona-shota fantasy being criticised is misogynistic behaviour after she admitted she liked incest between mothers and their underaged son got more wks than any "road pig tard" ever has. Nobody likes massive hairy gorillas but it's very obvious that a lot of you are weirdly okay with excusing shotafags by calling anyone who disagrees a "roid pig tard". Get bent, faggot lover
(infighting) No. 2610840
>>2609656“Losing heroines” made fun of it immediately. Losing is quite literally the purpose of the childhood friend character unless they are actually the main LI.
It’s also kind of realistic though. There’s been studies on how if you’re raised with someone closely like that, you’re less likely to be attracted to them because your brain basically filed them under family.
No. 2610931
>>2610924No worries, it's an easy mistake to make. I don't think that anon's incestuous fantasies are worse than other husbandofags, as she said, Kojima was most likely projecting his fetish into that whole plotline. I think it was supposed to make people unsure whether to get turned on or disgusted by the ordeal he went through and his continuous issues with dealing with women.
He was 17, 364 years old, 23 hours and 59 seconds old, the sick fuck.
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>>2608599It's always funny when they do this with these big, manly guys. they try to find the most "feminine" picture of themselves they can, but it's still just a clearly large adult man, but their yaoi-addled brains can't grasp that, it reminds me of the dwight mastectomy tumblr post
No. 2611464
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>>2611461Holy shit anon who IS that guy??? What a ride damn
No. 2611478
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>>2610683I only know Baki from random pics I see onilne and I'm very confused about what it's supposed to be about. I thought it was a standard shonen magic MMA but the villain is raping Trump and Musk. What
No. 2611499
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>>2611478>the villain is raping Trump and Musk. WhatFucking. Based.
No. 2611516
>>2608858>>2608938I've read fanfics written by women that depict female-on-male rape as a traumatic event and they all tried to handle it WAY more tastefully than this kek. It was more believable as actual rape too, not just "AAAAAAAAAAARGH A SEXY WOMAN WITH BIG TIDDIES IS RIDING ME MAKE IT STOP!" Women truly,
truly have too much sympathy for males.
No. 2611531
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>>2610743It's funny how all the losers come out of their lonely caves like roaches to make fun of us roided muscle-crackhead enjoyers.
I'm feeding my pig carcinogenic protein dust by the spoonful and he let's me punch him in the jaw because he's too poor to buy his own MEGA BIG-BOY PROTEIN EXTRAVAGANZA CHUM BUCKET from Decathlon. I don't have to worry about when to dump him because his heart will give up on him before I do.
You will be buying diapers for cartoon animals with your own retirement money in a couple decades but MUSCLEPIG will already be six foot under & STILL mogging your faggot even as a skeleton.
Imagine being too scared to drop kick your Nigel becuase he might fucking die. Couldn't be me! Mine is already dying. A heart attack wouldn't be out of the ordinary in an autopsy situation.
Bucktooth Becky's stay seething over the PIG-PUNCHING Stacy.
No. 2611619
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>>2611542So that's why there are so many bucky barnes fanfics on AO3…
No. 2611867
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>>2611461people's ideas of femininity, masculinity, and androgyny are so fucked now. i've seen people claim this guy and other long haired dorito faces from genshit/mihoyo games are androgynous. not remotely, he's just a dude with long hair…
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>>2611867Most genshin players are normalfags who dont watch anime or only watch mainstream anime. They are incapable of understing character designs that dont have very obvious, exagerated sexual dimorphism.
No. 2612054
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>>2611867They have the most conservative fucking views on gender roles, and they lack the self awareness to recognize it. This is legit right-wing conservative church man rhetoric. But us evils terfs are the bad guys for calling them out. Can they get a grip.
No. 2612087
>>2610931>>2610878It wasn't that
nonnie, it was the one from when we were discussing incest in fan media and then it took a left turn into shota when a
nonnie was talking about her incest fantasy about mothers molesting their sons (no specific character involved it was just the premise)
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Zelda fandom is truly entertaining to hate read. Even the modding scene is an absolute clown fiesta.
Gooner moids turning on each other now because this nsfw mod is taking taking years to release and taking patreon subs that whole time (I still can't believe Nintendo hasn't shut them down yet), and adding nude models of all the underage characters and random npcs. And the dev responding is always just "if you don't like it don't pley" and "our vision". And of course bad-mouths the normal, non-furry autist pedo mod. Those devs gave up, sure, but at least they did it for free and didn't take people's money, and didn't put the all the birdmen and children in the game in nude outfits
No. 2612099
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>>2611546Yujiro doesn’t actually rape Hillary Clinton — he just threatens to if she doesn’t swear loyalty to him, like he does with every U.S. president. And of course, she’s all flustered about it, kek. But hey, he does rape — and absolutely traumatize — this random ugly dude in another chapter instead !
No. 2612118
>>2612108Who could have done this?
Wonder how long they'll keep making excuses to keep the money flowing kek
No. 2612145
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>>2612121It's about totk. One of multiple dramas in the modding scene of that game alone. They've been arguing over who is the more based or chud modder with a better mod
No. 2612189
>>2611696Same here, I only buy fanmerch when their products are all based on 1-2 characters/ships max because even if they want profit, at least I know all the art is fueled by their autism for said characters/ship rather than just for money. If the shop was a big variety of stuff, I pass because I know they just view the series as a quick cash cow (even moreso if the series is niche, it's easy to capitalize on them as people will buy from you because you're almost the only one who sells things of it)
This reduced from who I "can" buy from by 90%, it pretty much stuck me with overseas artists only because western ones focus too much on cash.
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It's weird that fandoms oriented around small cute characters are full of malicious discourse. What is it about Sanrio/Tamagotchi/Animal Crossing/Chikawa/etc that brings out the evil in people? There were gore spams and death threats sent to cinnamoroll supporters during the Sanrio popularity contest and apparently this is a yearly occurance. What dots am I not connecting?
No. 2612272
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>>2611696I remember being utterly horrified when I realized that youtube videos suddenly pausing the convo to shill random products was supposed to be a normal thing now. The worst offenders imo are the fandom channels that discuss recent discourse regarding game/animanga, they all seem to discuss the same points like they're trying to copy each other's homework in middle school. You can totally tell that they have pretty much no actual passion about the fandoms they claim to be obsessed about
>>2612219For me it depends on the genre and the character dynamics. For example, free! has so much fujobait between every character that I don't fault anyone for having several ships. I also play a lot of BL and otome VNs, and I often find that well-written mcs manage to unlock different facets of their personality and have uniquely entertaining relationship dynamics with several characters. In such cases I often end up getting invested in more than one ship. But I think I understand what you're talking about, my current fandom has tons of annoying multishippers who give absolutely give zero fucks about the original content or how the characters actually act, and insert themselves into convos like "I want them all to be in a pansexual demiromantic polycule!!" or worse "I want them to be in an orgy and
vividly describe bdsm fantasy that nobody asked for in a public space". Their tourist behavior completely alienates the passionate fans of those media, then they wonder why nobody gives a shit about their shitty fanons. Idk about other fandoms, but I blocked all the western multishipper fans for my fandom and immediately found my feed pretty much free from pointless drama over imaginary sjw issues and troonery. Maybe transphobia is the answer to everything after all, kek
Pic not related
No. 2612285
>>2612219Imo multishipping is good or cringe depending on the "seriousness" of the fandom. Like if youre into kirby or sonic or some other kiddy shit and you take the shipping super seriously its kinda disturbing. But in those sort of fandoms the more normal people wont really care about the ships or just be like "oh thats a cute idea" when you see certain ships. Maybe have a preference but not going to freak out about it or whatever. But in the case of something more aimed at teenagers and older then yeah its usually cringe.
t. somebody who has seen more retarded infights about sonic shipping than anybody should in their life
No. 2612290
>>2612265I think it's because they attract some
toxic fandom archetypes:
>The turbo-consoomer who fills the black hole inside them with merch and constantly flexes their wealth>People who want to appear wholesome and cutesy to cover up their anger issues>Severely mentally ill autopedos or run-of-the-mill pedos No. 2612292
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>>2612265Tbh mental illness. As someone who always been into Kawaii things (especially before the pandemic) it always attracted mentally ill people like flies. Cute characters make people feel happy and safe so it’s only natural. Not every one of course, but ever since Sanrio characters exploded I’ve noticed I run into to way more unpleasant people than usual. Also Christ sending gore over a Sanrio character? That ls psychotic kek
No. 2612300
>>2612219I'm technically a multishipper because I love to analyze character dynamics, but I like to divide them into "OTP" "Fannish" and "Observer", both for me and others.
"OTP" is as the name says, the favorite ship and the one who occupies all the brainworms, it tends to overshadow every other ship. Shipper is very active on its fandom, join its fan events, and create and consume fanworks of it.
Then "Fannish" are ones the person simply likes, they still create and look up works for it but don't interact too much with its fandom except for the people they already follow who enjoy it as well.
Then "Observer" is just for ones the person think "cute!" when art of it pops up on their TL, but they neither create or search works for it.
For me OTP is the one that counts as true shipping, and fannish can count depending on how the person approaches it. Observer doesn't count as shipping something.
The issue is that people tend to put all of these together, and so they claim they ship something even though all they do is to RT stuff sometimes and simply think they look cute together, all superficial.
I'm only comfortable buying from people who focus on their OTP, and if they show they like their fannish ship enough, then that is fine as well.
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>>2611542>>2611556It's not traced, anon's just being a retard and assuming that all manhwa is traced.
No. 2612649
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>>2611696Absolutely. I miss how sovlful fanart on Deviantart used to be when everyone used Sakura pens for lineart and Prisma pencils or Copics for color. Also I miss Deviantart's old layout more than I miss some dead relatives.
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>>2612649>opens up dA's homepage for the first time in 10+ yearsWhat fresh hell is this
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>>2612752>>2612691>DeviantArt went from soulful artists who had fun in their autism niches to an AI data farmFeelsbad
No. 2612984
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RIP DeviantArt one of my core childhood memories was playing games that let you customise your own emo wolf OC or warrior cats adoptables
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>>2608599misogyny and porn brain-rot
No. 2613317
>>2611867Argenti isn't really the worst example, though. He does have a pretty boy anime face that could be read either way, and I could see this design being used in a Lady Oscar type bifauxnen character (although this doesn't apply to his voice, demeanor and backstory at all). If anything, the most "not androgynous" obviously male thing about his design is that he's a fully covered hoyo character and his armor doesn't have a boob window, zettai ryoki and arm pit holes
I still think the people that genuinelly tought he was gonna be female before launch were retarded for not having enough basic pattern recognition to notice that.
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>open m/f femdom fanart/fanfic/any media
>look inside
>male character is given a vagina
Why is this so common? Sometimes there aren't even any ftm tags, the male character just has a vagina.
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>>2613633I hate this so much. I don't want to see/read about vaginas on a male character.
>>2613642I think it's because a lot people think it's only REAL sex if some penetration is involved. It's retarded.
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>>2613666To paraphrase Reggie: if pegging isn't fun, why bother?
No. 2613958
>>2608991>Showing male on male rapeExactly. I can't stand this obvious gooner coomer scene being treated as "a good way to show male trauma" and the performative hatred spewed on Anissa by the male fans, yeaaaahh sure you definitely hate her.
The fact that Anissa has a "redemption arc" of sorts involving her raising their rape baby just shows that even the creator doesn't genuinely believe female-on-male rape is actually that bad, kek.
No. 2613968
>>2611478This scene shows the TRUE consequences of rape on male
victims. Invincible wished it could be this profound and deep.
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>>2608858>>2608938Your expectations matched exactly mine when I thought about how this show's fanbase is gonna go if or when it's time for Mark to get raped. Women taking the cartoon rape more seriously than actual men do, and men wishing they were "raped" by a hot woman. I get that this is just a dumbass comic but fuck it is so hard to take the idea of a woman raping a man seriously even in a hypothetical scenario where she really does overpower him. Also in the comics, Eve is pissed off when she learns that Anissa raped Mark. She's more willing to fight and kill Anissa than Mark himself is. I think this is an unintentional yet accurate representation of how women vs. men actually treat males getting raped: women taking it more seriously in the end, and men downplaying it because even they know it's not that serious.
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>>2613968This one is even better
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>>2610683>PickleOkay this is the only one i may agree with you on, but just because he has a cute face, his body is horrendous, criticism like this is funny when you are talking about Baki since they all have ridiculous bodies but Pickle is beyond ridiculous kek he looks like a giant chimpanzee
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>>2614059He just gets that male-on-male rape is fucking hilarious like 10/10 pure comedy gold, I love him
>>2614075I’m shamelessly shipping Pickle with Jack — they’re both total freaks made for each other. At first, I was like nah too, but now I just ignore how objectively ugly they both are — them and basically every other character kek. I actually find them kinda cute in a weird way, like when I was a teenager shipping Jason Voorhees and Freddy Krueger. Feel me?
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>>2612984I remember feeling horny for the first time when I played a dress-up game on DeviantArt as a kid where this anime girl with headphones was laying on her stomach and you could take all her clothes off and I kept putting them on and slowly taking them off kek. There was also that sailor senshi maker on there that I played a lot.
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>>2612984HOLY FUCK I used to loooove the DA dress up games when I was a kid holy shit. I loved the really old pusheen one, a Gaia one, and this furry Sonic OC one kek I would print my little OCs out to play with and put into my binders. Good times I want to go back
No. 2614459
>>2612265Outside of normies, kawaii character franchises tend to attract these kinds of fans
>consoomers who easily latch onto flavor of the month consoomer products in lieu of a personality>coquette DDLG girls with mental illnesses who insist on making hello kitty edgy and whatnot as part of their aesthetic>gen z / alphas with busted attention spans who can’t be bothered to learn the lore so they substitutes memes for engaging with the actual content So you end up with a crowd with the worst possible traits in a fan base, especially since most of their engagement is superficial at best. Case in point: Chiikawa. Before it took off outside of Asia circa late 2024, the English speaking fandom was pretty small and cozy. After it blew up, all the new fans were consoomers who barely interacted with the OG material who could only regurgitate memes. Western Chiikawa memes are oddly mean spirited too, which isn’t present in the Eastern side.
For a kawaii franchise, gaining popularity is basically the kiss of death. I’ve never had this issue with Sumikkogurashi or Rilakkuma fans and I suspect this is due to the fan base being small (because San-X barely acknowledges their fans outside of Japan kek).
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>>2610775He was 16 when he happened and looks like picrel, we don't even know what he looked like as a teen. Get over it.
>>2610878Erm akshually you're confusing Hal and Huey Emmerich with each other. Hal (Otacon) is the rape "
victim".
>>2610922*16. Based Julie Emmerich!
>>2610931Based
>>2611516We need more F/M rape made by women that is just blatant, unapologetic coom. Men literally get turned on from the thought of being raped by women. Not only that, but they are deeply autopedophilic. My ex sent me a picture of himself when he was 14 and was disappointed when I said he was ugly at that age and shyly told me he wish I had shown (sexual) attraction. My boyfriend also told me while he was drunk that he fantasized about being a younger teen and getting groomed by me at my current age. Seriously, why is this so common with moids?
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Ok so, what's with himejoshis and their inferiority complex? Do they forget that moids don't consume fujo content? Seems most himejos themselves don't even like the stuff they claim to like. They just want to get through with it to fulfill their sense of superiority over all those icky cock-addict women because at least there's no disgusting moid in it.
I can think about several types of people consuming yuri:
>TRVE LESBIANS, the last level of political lesbianism they can reach
>actual lesbians who find the characters hot and the story captivating
>APG troons
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>>2614513>My ex sent me a picture of himself when he was 14 and was disappointed when I said he was ugly at that agewtf this happened to me too except it wasnt an ex just a random scrote i was friends with and whom i made the mistake of telling i liked shorter guys. Disgusting fleshies are all whores. Its why i stick to aminu.
No. 2614560
>>2614533Yeah woke people are incredibly naive when it comes to other countries. They're shocked to learn a
POC immigrant family all voted for Trump, so they must just have been tricked and mislead and too dumb to understand Trump hates them for being
POC. But yeah no it was actually super predictable… because they're literally recent immigrant from a very conservative country with conservative values. They voted conservative - because they are conservative. In fact most of the world is more conservative than the lefties in the US. Heck even lefties in left-leaning Europe tend to be milder and further centrist than them.
No. 2614583
>>2614532Personally, the best explanation I can give after talking about yaoi with these types and then getting hit with the "oh I'm lesbian !!" when I try to talk to them about M/F: is that there are a subset of fellow straight/bi women on twitter, who are disgusted with porn addicted men irl and in their mentions, who try and claim a "lesbian identity" on the internet because they think it's like this "Asexual Girls Club Yakuza Protection Bracket"
…but then can't maintain the ruse so to speak because they are literally attracted to men, and then get a rude awakening when real lesbians are like "uhh so you're telling me you're a lesbian who gets off to yaoi? Not very lesbian are you? You're a faker." And the fakers are like "uhh what the hell? Are you being queerlesbophobic to me right now? You're probably a
terf, or my mom, or my ex boyfriend who tried to control me all the time. You mean lesbian!" Honestly you can tell these fake "lesbians" on twitter are faking because they don't even e-date each other despite allllll these supposed lesbians being in one space at once. Even disgusting discord mods have gfs but not one twitter lesbian has a twitter gf.
For example one of these types tried to claim she was a lesbian and then wrote a whole fucking self insert kpop fic of her "bias" sucking her strap on and she got ran off of the internet and this was 7+ years ago. I was like "what exactly were you expecting?" but these retards are allergic to claiming responsibility for their own actions so they persist. It's like they think lesbian can be a stand-in for "I'm in my man-hate phase!" Or "I'm actually into femdom" instead of just saying what they fucking mean.
Tbh I remember even Dorkin claimed a "lesbian identity" despite being straight, and she got so mad that real lesbians called her out for not even being into women that she wrote an essay acting like lesbians were class traitors for gatekeeping. Now you have twitards acting offended that lesbians are saying "no you are literally not lesbian if you're getting off to yaoi" Same shit different decade. Honestly I feel bad for the "real" himejoshis because imagine following a self proclaimed lesbian himejoshi and all you get is dickposting? That would be on par with cuntboy to me.
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>>2614583What if they only draw cuntboyx cuntboy?
No. 2614606
>>2614583Not to derail but i never liked Dworkin and idk why so many radfems like her. I acknowledge and respect her but she was a crazy bitch, i especially hated how she attached and connected the most innocuous things to rape because it felt disrespectful to actual
victims of sexual abuse. And like you said she was painfully straight too but deeply ashamed of it.
No. 2614639
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>>2608536is this fandom sexuality?
No. 2614678
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>>2614583I'm glad to be a bit of a loner and just enjoy my badly made
self insert art and fics and follow some good artists that don't always make what I'm obsessed with, but I appreciate it anyways because I know it's made from a genuine place. Just reading about these retards drains me but I've also interacted with nerdy girls irl who claim they like girls but it all feels very performative in comparison to the kpoop men and anime bishies they fawn over. I hate it when you think you've found someone who will be interested in what you like, just to be let down like that. There are fujos who are genuinely bi though, but so far only found one and she prefers femdom with twinks kek, but I appreciate her honesty. It's fine if they don't actually like yuri, I think the actual numbers of those that genuinely enjoy it (like the actual numbers of bi girls/lesbians,) is pretty small. I tried as a teen to get off to Dramatical Murder when it was really popular and my online friends liked it, but I sadly couldn't because no pussy, got bored and uninstalled. I tried to roleplay yaoi with them too but dipped when it got to the sex part. That's probably how these fake himejos feel about real yuri or f/f. They should stop pretending and just embrace what they like and it will save everyone from suffering, but it's so easy now to turn your straight with extra steps into something qWeEr to deflect criticism. I especially hate when they go "But it's not hurting anyone!" or "How does it affect YOU personally what this random chooses to idENTIfY as?!" They're so defensive off the bat because they know that if you dug a little deeper into their retarded logic it would all just fall apart.
No. 2614701
>>2614651Yoko would be German
because the aryans of the east shit. And if it's swapped and they've turned white into
poc then she would become
poc to white.
No. 2614762
>>2614639>Everyone gets a new name except RingoWould Ringo work as a lady's name back then?
>>2614667Yeah, but a lot of art surrounding real people is supremely weird. Especially when it involves child actors or they start shipping them together. And I've seen too much much art of John and Paul fucking each other to rank this on the low end of weird Beatles art.
No. 2615059
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Panty wouldn't look like that if she was a male. Come the fuck on, man. Panty would not have facepubes. She just wouldn't. When people genderbend female characters, the interpreted male versions always look older or uglier in some way. When artists do this, is this their drawings telling on their brains registering men as more expired and "walled" than women are even if they may not realize that they perceive this? I think the way a person draws the opposite gender for a character can tell on the way they perceive that gender.
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>>2615059This one also gives Panty facial hair, though it's otherwise a better design. I do love the popped collar, I feel like male Panty would be frat-dude-adjacent.
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>Shipping Link with the blandest female NPCs in the game: What do you hate women? Women don't have to be girlbosses or written with a personality! She's cute so who cares!
>Shipping Link with Sidon (and his wife in a threesome), Zelda with the woman who held her as a baby or Ganondorf: Queer representation! If you don't like it you're just a homophobic bigot
>Shipping 17-25 year old Link with a 12-16 year old Girl: Just Fiction! Freedom of Creativity!
>Shipping Link with Zelda: Perverts! Freaks!
What the actual fuck is wrong with these people. Why is the most normal, "vanilla" ship hated the most while it's crickets for everything else including the fucked up shit?
Polygon are the same morons who called Tears of the Kingdom "anti union" and "imperialist propaganda" because it has a fantasy monarchy.
Why can't people be normal about this game in ANY capacity. It's been two years of complete bullshit over every single aspect of this game and series and now the movie is igniting more stupid as fuck discourse. "Ew why isn't Link a walled roidpig? I can't project my roidpig harem fantasy on that" "He's a brunette he should be blonde". People grifting on both sides over Hunter not being cast. Shitting on the poor girl who was. Miyamoto getting sent death threats by people who wanted Hunter. I want to fucking kill myself. Take me out of my misery.
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>>2615530>>2615059Can't suggest anything for Panty's fit albeit it's godawful. picrel hairstyle on the left would look much better though and fit with the theme imo.
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>>2615530He's supposed to be wearing a mini top hat and ouji fashion. Male Stocking would resemble an early 2000s visual kei musician or just an "alt" male in general.
Like 2011-2015 is when PSG genderbends peaked. Picrel was one of the nicer ones. I feel like western female artists are too addled with ugliness (and particularly, ugly male fetishism) these days to make good genderbends of pretty female characters.
No. 2615592
>>2615548>you freaksHow is shipping hero/princess remotely controversial kek
>Across social media, fans are expressing concern about the age gap between the two, saying it will be hard to forget in the theater, and that it’s weird to cast a “love interest” so much older than the main character.The actress could be only a year or two older and people would still seethe. The psyop is real.
No. 2615600
>>2615235>>2614979Some people read "women are conditioned to get off to the man getting off" and take that to mean women can't ever have their own sexual desires at all. In their minds we're all just psyop
victims, and the ones with "unconventional" tastes are either faking or it just resembles a male fantasy with the genders switched so it doesn't count. In my opinion it plays into the Madonna/Whore complex, because the issue entirely hinges on whether sex makes you uncomfortable or not. Society does try its best to give women sexual neuroses (and anything is better than libfem "empowerment" bullshit) but surely fingerwagging at any and all expressions of female sexuality isn't the best way to combat it. They're telling us to stop faking it by…continuing to fake it kek. Repoast because typo.
No. 2615608
>>2614979>Women like Andrea Dworkin were undoubtedly traumatized so I suspect this was their way of coping.I don't think trauma automatically makes a feminist's input invalid, because women like Dworkin experienced the horrors of male nature firsthand so they have some valuable insight.
However, it should be taken into consideration when you analyse their opinions.
No. 2615655
>>2615608It becomes invalid once it borders on woo territory imo. The trauma is the drive to action but one's words can easily get lost in the mental psychosis of the mind hence we get shit like some "radfems" believing women can meme themselves into lesbianism or believing shit antithetical to gender critical ideology. It just so happens jose who have this woo don't even stay rad for long and go down the tradthot pipeline while still clinging on to feel edgy.
I often rather of being a radfem just make sit harder to enjoy media when so many works that supposedly feminist aren't good enough for some.
No. 2615717
>>2615699Touch grass and meet people at public spaces about this. People always would go to festivals, parties or circles to meet people back then. I can't tell you how much happier I am not knowing "the discourse" since leaving social media. I get whatever I want out of any narrative without having the dumbest chronically online gooners or pearl clutches ruin it for me anymore.
You have to learn how to protect your peace.
No. 2615806
>>2615743>Uni daysNot the anon you're replying to, but we are adults with jobs now, it's harder to convince people like you did when you're 30 and the people toy see often are normie coworkers, I don't think any of them want to hear about robot pregnancy kek.
That said, the healthiest (and hardest) thing to do is to mix both online and offline.
>>2615736 I'm on a similar boat as you, my interest are all weird VNs and what I did was to look for people who like it near-ish me. People nowadays are super open about their life online so it's doable. I talked to them and clicked with a very small group and we meet irl from time to time. I tried to meet people at cons, but everyone here only knows pikachu and sonic ao social media was the way to go.
So yeah, the key to fandoms is just to follow a very small percentage of people and ignore everyone else, I have fun even on terrible fandoms because I only follow and interact with non-combative people and forgein artists.
No. 2615839
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>>2615743I've never had much luck tbh.
Usually what happens is that I rec something, and two years later when it gets an anime adaption and an influencer recommends it/it makes the rounds on social media the person finally watches it.
No. 2615844
>>2615740I've just personally been down the path of spending my time hating other people online who don't really matter. I just want to nudge people into better habits that worked out for me so they can have healthier relationships with the things they love. I see myself in a lot of these posts getting into being angry about things that are dumb and inconsequential.
Like if you're going to talk about your fujo stuff or self-insert fan ficts you owe it yourself and everyone around you not to post rage bait. You're not above being effected by things.
No. 2615880
>>2615806Tbh, trying to befriend your coworkers is always a bad idea, mostly because you don't know who may end up getting fired next week.
Plus, if your coworkers are normies, just make normie friends, it's nice to pretend to be normal sometimes, and if a normie friend likes you a lot, no matter how weird the things you like may seem, it won't be that much of a big deal for your friend to get into the same stuff you like, because when you like someone you want to be on the same page, even if that means trying out something new.
You would have to be into some very, very fucked up shit to not be able to tell a random normie that you like it and that she should try it out too.
In any case, I would just try to find nerd spaces to make new friends with, I made a new friend at some DnD café and we get along just right, we play the same game and such.
Plus, sometimes some normie spots can have people into niche stuff, like the gym or some workshop.
I honestly don't use social media because it tires me out quickly, even if I love my online friends to hell and back, I still tend to feel too tired from my chaotic irl life to respond properly, or at least the way I want, which is by sending long ass messages to them and maybe doodles and such.
In the end, the issue is that you will always need to know how to keep weirdos into retarded Fandom discourse at bay, because not everyone takes the time to think about the reasons why the arguments exists at all or their validity.
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>>2615839I'm like that kek, but what has made me try out what I'm recommended is having the person asking me about it, at first I have a hard time trying it out, but then I get easily engulfed by the plot and such.
Maybe try doing so, or you could even meet up and turn the meet up into a sort of book club or the sorts.
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>>2615548I don't think link should be shipped with sidon, I want to have sex with him instead
No. 2615923
>>2615890Same. Someone with a single piece of tasteful merch like a keychain, phone case, badge, etc = probably a fan who knows how to act like a normie, or a normie who has some fannish interests.
For some reason ultra weebs are super clockable even in this day and age
>99% of the time overweight/obese >stringy, greasy hair dyed in a bright color with no upkeep >poorly fitted unflattering clothing>decked out in weeb symbols like weeby fashion and ita bagsI swear it’s like being overweight is a prerequisite for being cringey weeb
No. 2615943
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Can someone with pony knowlege enlighten me why Big Mac, Fluttershy and Trixie are the ponies who're most transed? I'm getting back into the fandom and I'm confused by seeing all of this.
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>>2615943>FluttershyShe was one of the biggest
victims of porn addicted moids, I'm sure you can connect the dots kek. Plus the whole dainty shy thing (which she evolved from anyways).
>TrixieThe stallions only had one white spot in their eyes, the mares had two. Trixie in the earlier episodes she was in only had one white spot, so people really latched onto that as "proof". I'm pretty sure they fixed her eyes later on in the show.
>Big MacProbably jokes like picrel. He's a hardworking stallion and probably one of the only "masculine" horses in the show, so there's at least a few jokes that feminised him (like crossdressing and becoming Princess Big Mac). I could be wrong but if this is why then TRAs are truly more retarded than I took them for
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>>2615955Samefag, it's the eye dot AND the gradient kek
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>>2615943there was one episode where Big Mac dresses as a mare to help Apple Bloom with a race (or something like so, I don't remember)
So retards automatically fantasized about him being trans, or a drag queen.
No. 2615972
>>2615943>Big MacTransformed into an alicorn in one of his dream sequences, and alicorns are shown to be an all-female group, also he crossdressed for Apple Bloom in one of the Sisterhooves Social episodes.
>FluttershyI'm assuming it's because her filly design strays from the conventional filly type—with hers being tall and lanky. Tall and lanky probably meant = male child pony… even though both foal body types are the same regardless of sex.
>TrixieNow
this one is very silly—it's because of her early season design of having only one catchlight in her eyes, just like the stallions! Which is funny because the later designs updated her catchlights to be two just like the standard mare design.
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>>2615691I come here sometimes for interesting discussions (rather than just looking at the latest dumb take on shitter that made you mad) so I second this notion, But also, given all the talk of "feeds", "tl" and "mutuals", I think the topic itself unfortunately self-selects for social media tourists who come here to complain about their she/they friends they secretly hate.
No. 2616296
>>2615691Agreed. The whole reason I'm on Lolcor and not mainsteam social media is to get away from the kind of human-centipede-level fart-huffing that goes on in popular fandoms. The older I get, the more mystified I am at the degree to which people get invested in meaningless shit like the exact hex code of a character's skin color, or whether women who like gay shipping need to be burnt at the stake for crimes against representation. I wonder what sort of lives these people have where they have so much time and energy to waste on these things. So often in this thread I'll read a screenshot of someone being retarded and think
>Kim, there's people that are dyingBut then the anon who posted the screenshot is actually someone who's weirdly invested in the same debate and wants us to validate their perspective. It's so tiresome. Who cares about any of this shit? At least when cows act retarded, it's funny. But with fandom slapfights, it's just exhausting.
I'm not opposed to fandom meta discussion, I'm just tired of it cycling between the same five social-justice-related topics.
No. 2616539
>>2615600>In their minds we're all just psyop victims, and the ones with "unconventional" tastes are either faking or it just resembles a male fantasy with the genders switched so it doesn't count.I find this sentiment so prevalent on this site and other radfem sites (im looking at you ovarit). It's a pity since as
>>2615235 expressed, if every expression of female sexuality can just be reduced to patriarchal influence, then what agency do women have, even in our own fantasies? You would think that radfems would support femgaze media produced by women, for women, but no, you get endless chastising and the same tired arguments. I kind of understand with the Ovarit crowd since they tend to be boomer normie women (a lot of whom skew conservative…) so they just don't "get" fandom culture like fanfic and shipping, but this site isn't much better. In a nutshell:
Fujos and M/M shippers
>Nooooo it's just heterosexuality with extra steps!!!!111>Fujos are just TIFs in training!!! (The "fujoism is a TIF pipeline" sentiment that's prevalent in a lot of radfem spaces is so disingenuous since it ignores factors like upbringing and societal pressures that actually cause women to troon out, instead pinning troondom on a convenient bogeyman)>There's no women involved so its misogynistic!!Yumejos, husbandofags and selfshippers
>How dare women have varied taste in men! If you don't like walled roidpigs then you must like shota or vice versa! >You can't be a TRUE and HONEST radfem since you're still centering fictional moidsFemdom lovers and women with other unconventional tastes
>You're just as degenerate as those scrotes!!>Femdom is inherently a scrote fantasy!!You just can't win. Nothing is ever good enough.
>>2615608Her writings on pornography and male depravity are still
valid, but that unresolved trauma means you should take her decisions with a grain of salt. Unresolved trauma leads to forming neuroses which leads to bizarre coping mechanisms like some radfems believing women can become lesbians through sheer willpower.
No. 2616692
>>2616685No, unless your way of participating in a fandom is by creating porn of characters from shows for babies like bluey. I think the issue is that people usually assume
>Fandom = shipping = pornSo they think it's weird for developed adults with real life issues to be into a piece of media.
No. 2616879
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>>2615059hell no. i always hated these interpretations of male!panty as a disgusting pubefaced geriatric shitbag when he would definitely not let himself go like that. though stocking looks cute; i have to admit he would look like a bishie.
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>>2614639This is the western equivalent of when japanese people turn airplanes and ships into anime waifus.
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I hate american political brain rot so much. yes, the model(thomas schmidt) here grew up in a rural area was lower-middle class and supports the conservative party, just like everyone else where he comes from. that's just a thing in latin american countries and someone being "conservative" by latin american standards doesn't necessarily mean they're a trump supporter.
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>>2617222unrelated but how come brazil can shit out such an cutie but this is the best hollywood can offer
No. 2617306
>>2617222> being "conservative" by latin american standards doesn't necessarily mean they're a trump supporterThat's kind of irrelevant. The replies specify he's brazilian, so if they're talking about Bolsonaro he's already a very diviside figure on his own without any Trump association. I remember some years ago that Piccolo guy that draws a lot of Beastboy x Raven art getting almost pseudo cancelled for being pro Bolsonaro or something like that, and I think something similar happened to a big brazilian youtuber with some ex girlfriend drama mixed in. You can't blame everything in the world on USA brainrot,
nonny.
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>>2617226>>2617237tbf it's just the lighting of this photo, in real life he looks like a typical fuckboy
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>>2616879Stocking looks too childlike there (fashion-wise). Here's a male Stocking drawn by the same artist from upthread.
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>>2617360>>2617381It's not untrue. since yuri Shipping became popular, we've seen the exact same tropes we see in yaoi, only reverse. so Instead of a male character becoming hyperfeminized, we see a female character becoming masculinized and being male in everything except pronouns.
No. 2617603
>>2614979>>2615600I actually thought the opposite, I find it really hot when guys cum but I thought its like how guys find it hot when girls cum, I thought a girl finding it hot when a girl cuts more the psy-op, like adoting a male sexual gaze sort of.
>>2614979I noticed this too I got chastised for looking at yaoi once cause "all porn is misogynistic including yaoi and brainwashes you into accepting unhealthy dynamics… like wtf am I supposed to do just not like anything sexual at all? I dont really even get mad if another woman likes bdsm, I dont blame her, although I think shes brainwashed into it usually by society encouraging the idea that violence to women (like choking, hitting) is sexy. But anyway I wouldn't shame a woman into it so much as I see it as a symptom of a larger issue, and I definitely think its a bigger issue with men being into choking than women.
No. 2618151
>>2618129If only they turned that energy towards doxxing
actual creeps in the fandom.
No. 2618197
>>2618151The creeps are their best friends and moids who give them the attention they want, so of course not. They only go after le evil
terf!1!
They think they won by me deactivating my account, but I am just tired of the fandom in general and the backstabbing, two-faced "friends""oomf"mutuals" who I knew would drop the hammer on me sooner or later over some dumb shit. I am finally free.
No. 2618213
>>2617540>Media focused on yuri appears>Zoomie himejos and himetrannies can't stop talking about dick, impregnation and strap suckingThat checks out. It's like the retarded fujotifs who need to make male characters pregnant, give them titscars, pussies and refers to male characters as "wives".
>>2618197Going after a
TERf is easier than going after coomers, fetishists and lolicons because we all know women with strong opinions are more dangerous and nazi-coded than actual creeps and predators who can cry like impotent faggots (and still be forgiven anyway) when caught in the act.
No. 2618237
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>>2615059This artist should stop with the ugly moids and continue her stocking yume adventures
No. 2618747
>>2618306oldfag here - kenshin was what got me into anime and it was babby's first anime for many a millennial. it's a shonen manga that surprisingly has an adult protagonist and it was emblematic of "bishonen jump" syndrome, which is why it had many female fans back in the day. in other words, there's nothing glaringly scrotey about it like lolis or fanservice. if you read the author's other manga busou renkin, there's also nothing obviously scrotey.
however, this is an example of how male degeneracy is so embedded in japanese society that even creators who seem innocuous can be just as degenerate as unabashed coomers.
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>>2618237Looking like genderbent Juandissimo Magnifico
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>>2618993
So true
No. 2619008
>>2615059>>2615455You really realize the psyop we've been through in the last years if you compare these to genderbend fanarts from 2010
>>2619004I deleted to find a proper image but thank you kek
No. 2619069
>>2618720Why do people freak out over this so much? Do you vet every vendor of everything ever just in case a pedophile produced it? I'm paying for a product not a person's beliefs. As long as the product doesn't have pedophilia what's the issue?
>>2618747Female mangaka and character designers are like this too. It's not as bad but not caring about women is a critical part of manga, all the girls have the shortest skirts ever while men are dressed head to toe.
No. 2619081
>>2619073But
why though. Works DO exist independently of their authors, that's why you get so many interpretations and fandoms, why some works attract gendies and qweers and others don't.
Pedophiles do need to contribute to society whether it's as slave labor or creative pursuit.
No. 2619137
>>2619096That's fair enough, however you might be supporting a pedophile unknowingly, whether through ad revenue or Amazon or buying groceries.
You can argue that it's okay if you don't know about it, but the fact is you have and will be funding a pedophile's lifestyle at some point unless you somehow make sure to only buy from women-owned businesses.
Oh, but most definitely that scrote mangaka should have received a harsher punishment for his crimes. How would I even communicate that? Perhaps his works don't deserve to be recognized after all in light of a society that doesn't care.