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This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping> Ao3 Censorship and TOS> Slapfights over shipping> Carrds, DNIs and call-outs> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters> Debates over death of the author> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creatorsRelated threads:
Fujo vs. anti-fujo discourse:
>>>/ot/2584462Fujocoomer cringe:
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Btw I have follow-up milk to the threadpic. Like 50% of Kockaine's art is FtM pregnant Gojo btw.
No. 2619336
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>>2619325The horse is literally male in real life anon
No. 2619357
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>>2619350I'm not into Uma Musume but I love how fucking retarded horses are. Best animal.
No. 2619359
>>2619352Gotta admire a cow who manages to piss
literally everyone off at varying points, from wokies to neckbeards.
No. 2619365
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>>2619352You mean this one? Different artist
No. 2619376
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Actually nuking myself was the funniest thing I've done yet as the Zelda fandoms fav lolcow. The schizo teenage boy tim who whines no woman wants him and wears cheap amazon femboy fetish shit as though it makes him a woman is now accusing any innocent random account of being me, evil terf chan
No. 2619396
>>2619336>>2619349>>2619353My bad. Idk anything about the horse, I was agreeing with the quote tweet about ftm genderbends being annoying.
>>2619340I was thinking of my favorite magical girl franchises always getting genderbent by fans and trying to make male OCs with the powers of the female characters because they can't stand not seeing a male on the screen in the media they watch. They're very annoying and they demand the creators of the media to add male characters as main characters with female powers or else sexism and misandary!!! I hate those handmaidens and faggots so much. This is also related to a vent of mine about fandoms where they can't discuss or enjoy anything about a piece of media if they can't find the characters attractive or can't ship them, and majority of fan content being "x is hot" "I ship A and B.", it gets boring real quick.
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>>2619376Not even my account. How many innocent people are they gonna accuse out of paranoia? I'm laughing so hard.
All this because I refuse to call obviously fetishistic agp men women or join their haremfagging and was mean about their fish waifu/husbando
They could roast me for being a psycho autistic bpdemon, but it's all purely me being an "evil
terf" and "racist"
No. 2619410
>>2619405This the same energy as "you cant argue with me online, I'm a minor!"
These people all use the tranny arguement because no one can argue against it online, apparently.
No. 2619416
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>>2619396Oh, so stuff like pic related? Tbh, I never figured it was anti women, more men seemed pissed when it happened.
No. 2619439
>>2619420just filter out keywords instead of individual tags
>>2619396you’re still retarded and ftm genderbends are still less common too.
No. 2619445
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>>2619420I feel you 100% anon. Putting
>PIV sex>vaginal sex>trans [character A name]>trans [character B name]>trans character>trans male characterIn the "excluded tags" field usually filters out most of the slop. But some troonslop still gets through, and I typically just block those writers on sight. It's very tiresome to always have to enter all that shit in, though. There might be a browser extension for it but I'm too lazy to look.
No. 2619470
>>2619409Literally lmao. It's like they don't know what to do with themselves now. I guess they wanted me to hold on longer on main and I deprived them or something. It really seems like they constantly think about me and were even jealous over my retarded shitposts that kept getting thousands of likes for whatever reason (even though I don't give a shit about that myself, and why I have no qualms deleting every social media account finally)
It has certainly been a learning experience for me though. The "fandom influencer" life isn't for me. It was one thing when it was just a small circle of friends/"friends" reacting to whatever bullshit I felt like posting when I was bored, not literally an entire fandom and whatever normies the movie news brought in. I'm not even sure how I became that "famous" because all I did was be extremely autistic about a video game for a couple of years.
No. 2619487
>>2619467Sleeper handmaidens kek
I'm not that hopeful. Fandom is just about sucking troon dick now and probably will be into the foreseeable future
No. 2619507
>>2619499I hate that you are probably right.
It's so prevalent irl as well that, among other reasons, I no longer want kids. Imagine being the parent to a screeching tim or tif who kills themselves early with the botched procedures. No thank you.
No. 2619528
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I had a discussion with a moid over romance for women and i shit you not the moid claimed romance for women is ''degrading'' to men. I burst out laughing, he even said men in romance for women are all meek and let women walk all over them and that all the women are always domineering girlbosses. I cant beli the shit i just read.
No. 2619538
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>>2619528>men in romance for women are all meek and let women walk all over them and that all the women are always domineering girlbossesAaand where can I read these romances? Asking for myself.
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>>2619517Doesn't matter, honter is le heckin trans representation! and so the role rightfully belonged to him and Bo deserves hate for being an actual woman or "cishet heteronormative breeder". Apparently.
No. 2619548
>>2619528Kekkk I would also like to know where these romances are
I suspect it's usual projection. They hate the idea of it being turned around.
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ayrt and damn, i feel less insane seeing your replies, thanks nonas, i guess ive been lurking too much on twitter where everyone gives eachother asspats for their "omg basically canon transmasc fic!!"
>>2619445yeah thats usually what i have to do everytime nona and like you said, some troonslop still slips through, can get even worse when theres like a handful of people writing some niche fetish i dont care about and have to filter that extra slop out too
>>2619435do you know any asian fic sites nona? i know asian artists arent retarded on twt like western ones but i know besides twt, pixiv has gotten infested with westerners and their uggo art
>>2619454im not as into f/f but have a few ships, and yeah, the fandom is chronically rife with "trans headcanons" for them which is annoying, particularly because a lot of reasoning is because both characters arent really comfortable with who they are, like sorry didnt know only troons can hate themselves
>>2619521not even ABO nona, i guess a bunch of fujo to ftm aidens just self insert onto the ship and have to ruin the tags but thats every M/M ship these days
>>2619439i might be stupid but what do you mean by filtering out keywords
>>2619437i miss the good old days so much nona, i hope if i ever create a piece of media that its fandom isnt as retarded as most are these days, i feel like fandom was the one niche where girls could express their desire and sexuality towards men the way they wanted to and now its just a cesspool taken over by retards like all good things started by women
No. 2619556
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>>2619376>>2619399Do you really read T4T fanfic
nonnie No. 2619611
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yes i'm yet another dumb zoomie and yes i'm gonna brag about how i liked house md (because of my mom kek) before it became a meme. ironic house md fans got to be one of the most annoying fandoms, fandoms about ips starring old men are already annoying but these have to be the absolute winners of the insufferable olympics.
some things are just meant to be enjoyed by yourself.
No. 2619642
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>>2619528>men in romance for women are all meek and let women walk all over them and that all the women are always domineering girlbossesthen why are images like picrel made claiming women’s romance is all about getting abused and sexually dominated while men’s romance is all about the humble desire to have 100 girlfriends.
No. 2619683
>>2619655You dont bid on them
nonny they just run and win careers there is no gamba involved sadly
No. 2619699
>>2619655Honestly I can see why they made all the horses girls. It would be a little weird if the horses were the same sexes as their IRL counterparts, because you'd have males competing against females, which is normal for horses but horrifically unfair for humans. Plus there's unfortunately just more money to be made off of male neckbeards than female legbeards. So all in all, it makes sense that it's all female. But I wouldn't be opposed to an all-male spinoff. I've said this many times before, but most women are straight and enjoy looking at hot guys. It only becomes misogynistic for women to prefer male characters or all-male media when they use misogynistic rhetoric to justify it.
I'd prefer it if a concept like Uma Musume (as-is, with an all female cast) were written by women for women, but that's unfortunately not the world we live in, at least not as far as Asian media is concerned. All-female casts in media for women is more common in the west, but it's often either extremely low-brow or terminally woke. We just can't win.
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Where did this weird cope come from? Moids are so fucking weird.
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No. 2619771
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>>2619751TL;DR moids ruined it.
No. 2619783
>>2619745And what did they supposedly ruin?
>>2619775Kek
No. 2619790
>>2619558It yearns to be walked over and "emasculated" (actually masculated), even if it pretends to tooootally hate it.
>>2619771Reeeing at this stupid cucked world, but link?
No. 2619810
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Imagine being the kid that asked "do you have any F/F headcanons?!" and getting the response "YES!! I love trannies!! This masculine male character would be BUTCH!! All these characters are so gender. This other character would be an amab transmasc" the whole thread actually cracked me up at what a nothing-answer it was.
No. 2619817
>>2619808Thank you,
nonnie! ♥
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>>2619831Isn't that a lot of tournament manga? Sure, not all of them are good looking guys but there's usually at least four. One being the mc, one is a rival, one is fodder, and then a sneaky guy.
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>>2619365This one. But I get why you'd think it was that one, all the female designs of him look the same to me
No. 2619912
>>2619528I knew a moid who said this as well and humored him. It’s true in a metatextual way. In the sense male characters are literally contrived to only want the female mc, and be everything the mc already wants. They often act unrealistic and unlike actual men, to such a degree where it is difficult Ito suspend your disbelief. So, I can see how men could be at least a little miffed over “improper representation”, especially when it’s clear these characters are created to reflect and serve female interests.
I assumed he would apply this principle universally, but was completely oblivious to the fact that most of his favorite franchises feature female characters written the same exact way, even worse.
>“It is dehumanizing to read stories about sexy millionaire vampires falling in love with plain women and dedicating their entire lives to her and serving her needs. No man would act like that, and I don’t like how it implies men are just things for women’s pleasure and amusement, and they have to do so much to please them”>“Don’t you recommend me series where all the female characters are absurdly sexy, and their personalities and plotlines revolve around joining the mc’s harem?”He got embarrassed and apologetic afterwards, kek.
They are extremely blind to dehumanization when it comes to women, and exceedingly sensitive when it comes to the dehumanization of males. Some of the series he recommended feature women who are blatant misogynistic stereotypes, not even the more harmless ones, but malicious ones. He just accepted it as fact.
I think most women understand billionaire vampires obsessed with pleasing them aren’t a realistic representation of men, that they’re just a fantasy. But apparently men can read stories where women are willing prostitutes who do it just for fun and nothing more, or do it because they want take advantage of poor, unsuspecting men by predating on their lust. For men, these characters aren’t
problematic for being reflections of the male perspective, but accepted as believable depictions of women.
It’s irritating talking to men when they just can’t seem to grasp the concept of females as autonomous humans by default. It’s especially irritating when they are otherwise very thoughtful. it’s like they completely lose their ability to analyze and critique effectively when women are in the picture. At this point I am absolutely convinced the neurons required to do so are just shut down. Something on the Y chromosome programs their brains to be structured in such a way where they just lack the capacity to humanize women.
Dworkin talked about this in Pornography iirc. A man could be reduced to tears looking at a tree when contemplating the profundity of the natural world, but will be forever deaf to the voices of women. They just cannot understand a woman’s perspective. I swear I’ve never seen one successfully conceptualize it.
No. 2619933
>>2619912Damn you put it beautifully
nonny. Please keep writing i could read your posts all day.
No. 2619949
>>2619771Biosperg incoming because I have to.
>females are more strongly influenced by resources, and males by the distribution of femalesThis is a very presumptive. Females and males are equally influenced by “resources”.
It’s more true to say women are artificially kept in a state of resource scarcity, by men. Male resource hoarding will make women more strongly incentivized to procure resources, because that’s the point. She only has access to resources through a literal middleman.
Males uniquely view females as a resource, the inverse being untrue. They also are not incentivized by “distribution” of females, but for the individual male to access females himself. Individual males are not motivated to ensure other males have equal access to women. Equal distribution just happens to be a system in which males can more reliably access women. It is like saying “people are motivated to cook, end statement”. No, they cook because they are motivated to eat food. It’s a means to an end, not the goal in itself.
Maybe it’s a nitpick, but it needs clarification, since it’s likely for the average reader to interpret this as “women be shopping, men be passing women around like party favors”.
>with males exerting controlover female distribution through the control over resources.
True, but this implies that males used the female population as a genetic sandbox, if I am to believe this is an explanation for human sexual dimorphism. Women cannot simultaneously be an evenly distributed resource and also the mechanism through which genetic specialization is realized. The majority of women, including those under these conditions, passed down their dna. It is more accurate to say that males specialized themselves via sexual competition. Men did not manufacture women to be weaker, but manufactured themselves to have a competitive advantage over other males, and to more easily impose themselves on females.
This is accepted as fact when observing highly dimorphic mammal species. For example, male elephant seals did not engineer female seals to be comparatively smaller. They developed to be larger in order to compete with other males, and to intimidate females into submission.
Most sexual dimorphic traits in males were evolved not under the “equal distribution” model of post-agricultural societies. If anything, modern male human specialization occurred primarily during pre/early agricultural societies. Where 1 male passed down his dna for every ~20 females. But this “warlord” model of reproduction influenced our hominid ancestors well before they were ever able to implement social structures based around collective male resource hoarding and enforced monogamy.
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>>2619959If the proportions of that DON'T look fucked to you, you need to go outside more.
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>>2619325Usually I hate the other way around (which is way more common) where male characters especially ones with zero sex appeal gets turned into a big titty waifu in skimpy clothes that looks way off from the orignal. They just can't design a female character without making it fuckable for scrotes. Not only that but a troon fantasy for them as well. Ftm genderswaps are usually for husbando fun and are less offensive compared to mtf genderswaps unless it's trap femboy shit where they just look exactly like the female design but without the boobs and slapped a dick on it.
No. 2620051
>>2619976Sometimes I wonder. I think empathy is second-order to them, they have to actively override their default functions to engage it. Either through deliberate mindfulness, or upon request. This is assuming he isn’t already resentful and resistant.
If you can manage to get the gears turning at all, it’s not a guarantee he will actually be capable of understanding.
Assuming you can manage both, the same process has to happen every time. He must be repeatedly reminded to proc his empathy protocols, and given some time to work it out. Like counting on his fingers. Maybe he can learn to better optimize if it’s consistently required of him, but for most of them, it isn’t.
I would say women are often more neurotypical in that empathy is easily accessible to them, it happens without actively thinking, and it takes a very short time for new perspectives to be understood. Once a model is formed, it is internalized. This is a skill consistently required of them, either through socializing, or threat assessment.
You probably flush the toilet after every use without even thinking about it. It’s just reflexive. You do it so much and so consistently, it’s routine, your brain makes shortcuts for practicality and efficiently. Now imagine you only ever flushed the toilet after forcing executive control. You had to sound out the words “flush. the. toilet.” and think about all of the reasons you should before you can be convinced. You’re probably going to have a backed up toilet very frequently. This is men and empathy.
Unlike a toilet, where shit puddles are an active and easily identifiable detriment to your life, men can move through the world relatively functionally without having to consider women.
This only becomes an issue for men who are in environments where women’s autonomy has a greater effect on their lives. In societies where women are beholden to men, he doesn’t think about what they think. If he does, it’s a recreational activity. Speculation and superstition hold just as much merit as the truth. In societies where ineffective communication with women means you lose opportunities, men with underdeveloped empathy skills are left confused and frustrated. They infrequently realize that the issue is theirs, and not the fault of “illogical” or “malicious” women.
What is substituted for empathy in more pressing times is projection. Philosophers of the past who waxed about “the female condition” certainly included projection in their analysis, but would also conjure fantastical theories the same way they might ponder the cosmos. Theoretical, inconsequential, unbeholden to the creatures they remark upon. Men of today, who are in more ways subject to women, but still lack the capacity to empathize, rely on projection and paranoiac spirals. He has to figure out the creatures who vex him, but lacks the skills required to observe and record them. He is hypersensitive to all the ways in which women impede his prospects (specifically, romantically, since women are required participants), and in his frantic efforts to figure her out, makes a projection of himself with a more uncharitable twist. Ironically, he creates a woman of himself and a man of the woman. This will forever be lost on him, since flipping the script in his mind requires the very empathy he lacks.
This is how you get men stressing over their plight of male objectification in romance novels as they unquestioningly treat women as objects, objects whose intended use is more cruel by several orders of magnitude.
>>2619991If a typical man imagines himself as a sexy billionaire vampire, he would see himself fucking every attractive woman in sight, the only retardant being his own refractory period and the time required to sleep, eat, and evacuate. Every woman is plain in this way. No single woman is of high enough quality to compete with the fantasy harem.
At the very least, his love for the woman could not include sexual (and often romantic) exclusivity. When men write fantastical heroes like this, he may have one true love, but will also enjoy more casual encounters with other women.
A man sees excessive devotion to a single woman when he has infinite options as an absurd investment, to the point of distress, even anger at the suggestion.
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>>2619611House having a modern zoomer fandom is so weird. I liked it when it was gaining traction and people were just talking about the show, but now everytime I like a normal house post, tumblr shows me cutesy anime shipping art of the two guys. Lots of trannification art too ofc, which just seems extra retarded considering it had several episodes where sex and hormones are incredibly relevant to the illnesses/treatments.
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>>2619553>>2619445the search within results bar also has an exclusion feature so instead of typing out a billion different tags with the word “trans” in them you can just type -trans in the search within results bar. you can also add the
symbol to it like -vagina so it excludes any spelling of it like “vaginal” or “vaginas” but I would keep in mind that doing this with words like “trans” (though effective) will also exclude words like “translation”, “transfer”, or “transformation” and any other word that has the word in it.
ngl its kinda crazy to me how many people don’t know this just because they’ve never bothered to press the question symbol next to it No. 2620130
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>>2620126for the second part I’m referring to the asterisk symbol
I forgot about the post styling lol No. 2620164
>>2619611I'm a House MD autist myself and the "old man yaoi" shit really gets my goat too. I went to a con, found House MD merch at the artist alley, but it was a complete joke at the expense of the "old men yaoi" trope instead of actually trying to express any level of enjoyment for the show they're selling merch of… Granted, I can't tell if I'm just an oversensitive sperg but I wish people could just enjoy a show and not have to hide behind "ironic enjoyment" or trope-y catchphrases. People can't just treat media with a ounce of respect nowadays, and fandom feels like a competition for who can spoof (and disregard) on the source material the most.
I think it's based on the idea that "caring" is cringeworthy or something, or an inherent defence mechanism for like what
>>2620093 said about House having
problematic themes.
No. 2620177
>>2620143If the male is written to be devoted, then it’s not like he is being violated when expressing said devotion. The husbando consented to sex with his waifu only. Insisting he must have sex with other women is attempted coercive rape and sexual conversion therapy. That is not very sex positive.
Unless they are implying these characters are sending a harmful message to society. Men are being abused when women expect monogamy in a relationship? Yeah they would unironically say this.
No. 2620273
>>2620223Pickmes will do anything but sympathize with women. Even fictional scrotes made BY women are afforded more humanity than actual women.
This is one of the results of a culture that centers the male perspective and vilifies the female one. Women conditioned to better understand men in every context (including not being real) than their own, or other women. Every human emotion she feels is related through the scrote, often resulting in beliefs that work directly against her. It’s frustrating.
“I don’t like being called sexist pejoratives”
>After being processed through the male centered brain“Men are oppressed for not sleeping with whoever they want”
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Media is just made for tumblr users now huh
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>and neutrals
why do these faggots want everyone to have a militant stance on fictional characters?
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>>2620408You can't just post the text without showing whatever shitty art they're aggressively defending. God, I love how the donut steel crowd always have art no one would ever want to steal.
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>>2620925it’s a “semifictoromantic” TIF that ships herself with a pony and 53 other characters. i’m not even exaggerating, she has a google doc
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>>2620993kek she's a grown ass adult too. embarassing
No. 2621190
>>2621145Zoomers/gen alpha are also allergic to primary sources since they just regurgitate whatever they hear, usually Tumblr or a slop YouTuber, without fact checking and they pick and choose whatever suits their agenda. It’s how someone like James Somerton got away with plagiarism for so long.
>>2621149In the West, the LGBT connection is only true for furries kek the OG slashers were a bunch of Trekkie housewives.
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>>2620093Wait, wait, why is House popular with zoomers now? (Do they even know about the lupus meme?)
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>>2620093I hate cutesy art like this for stuff like this and breaking bad, it comes off as so fake weeb try hard to me.
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>>2621588They will never be based unironic westaboos
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New moid schizo meltdown over perceived pinch emoji just dropped.
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>>2621717I wish there was a page that compiled all of these incidents, or we could have a thread about it because it's hilarious.
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>>2620285what are those three art styles, nonna? I'll take a guess, it's
>that super ugly art style with the shaded nose and forehead, swirlies on their cheeks and brujoari slit eyes that;s popular with tifs >xiaohongshu homogenized renderfagged manhwa styled art with muddy blue shading >Lottie clones with cute and funny samefaced moeblobs. also renderfagged usually>>2621151how do these fandombrained tiffanies who never go outside always have a girlfriend, it's like reverse prison gay where no faggot would ever touch them so they end up dyking out with a fellow fujo. the only positive of gendieism, maybe.
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>>2619842it didn't get localized or fan translated so you'll either have to machine translate it yourself or brush up on your nihongo skills, but duel love is a DS otome game where you can date boxing bishies and even watch them while they're showering, totally naked except for no peen, total femgaze fantasy
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>>2621748this was our foremother's love and deep space.
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I’m vehemently enjoying these stupid fucking trannies seething and malding over their puppy girl incest simulators getting wiped off the face of the earth. 2025 is truly our year, ladies.
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>>2621759I can't believe these handmaidens are bending over backwards to defend
literal fucking rape simulators for what? these prostate examiners would find more issue with a game disavowing their rape idoelogies of cotton ceiling like how they routinely humiliate and deplatform rusty hearts for making lease bound than find any issue with literal fucking rape simulators. because
terf violence against trans women is so much more widespread and must be quelled at any opportunity, right? I can't with these fucking blue sky whore mongers who decry Twitter for being a 'literal Nazi platform' for allowing conservative commentators and marking cis as a slur, but will die to the blade for their Japanese child rape simulators to be freely dispersed. I enjoy BL eroge from itchio on occassion but I'd gladly see them getting censored or banned if it meant that subordinating and rape culture propagating garbage gets nuked off the site and the faggots who have that shit on their hard drives get swatted.
No. 2621778
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>>2621759I'll be a bit sad about the female-oriented media that will be lost due to the bans but on the other hand it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make if it means seeing tranny moids seethe about losing their god given right to futa incest cuckoldry rape shovelware.
No. 2621889
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>>2621821Boxers aren't actually that buff. Picrel was the world heavyweight champion for a while.
No. 2621900
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>>2621892Lower weight division boxers aren't that meaty. A lot of them look purposely make themselves underweight to get into a lower division. I would say the twinks are more accurate to boxing than bara.
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why are they so ashamed of liking a straight-lined ship?
No. 2621968
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>>2621955what's even funnier is that these same people apply heterosexual biology to gay relationships. when have a ship between two women, one will always be a gigantic bodybuilder a foot taller than the other(basically reverse yaoi). they're clearly heterosexual, but they're ashamed of it and brain-rottten by porn.
No. 2621971
>>2621963>they might take down porn with adults inGetting arrested and fined, not just "they took your dumb porn big whoop, now pay the fines stupid woman".
But its not like women aren't already getting arrested/fined for saying
terf things online, censorship can never backfire.
No. 2621973
>>2621968So they fag up hetero ships and, and straighten out gay ships.
what the fuck do these people want? Do they care about the actual dynamics of the characters and ships they think they understand? Or are they just "playing with dolls" to get attention in fandom spaces?
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>>2621968>goatedsaminatorShe was roasted by TERFs on the TL for trooning the Barbie-lookalike. And of course she made a genderbent version of him with titscars and a vagina.
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>>2621976Its not just about porn, its as dumb as seeing pic related and going "its fine because these laws will combat misogyny online. This woman simply shouldn't have said anything, if she hadn't said anything, only misogynists would get arrested."
"Just don't use social media? What's the problem? Are you defending misogynists and sex offenders by refusing laws that may protect women?
No. 2622052
>>2621778I hate rape slop too but fuck off with this bullshit. I might as well share my shit in catbox files until that gets seized.
>inb4 stop being a goonergayshit is next until all that's left is christcuck propganda where we're all expected to be baby factories for the patriarchy. Why even have this belief in the first place? I wanna play other people's self of expressions of sexuality, not using my dogshit art skills and writing to make what I want.
No. 2622058
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>>2622052You flag yourself every time you type out christcuck, kek. Collective Shout isn’t a Christian organization and has not made any indication since their inception that they want to get rid of depictions of homosexuality. Literally no one gives a shit about yaoi
No. 2622086
>>2622075Nta but have they said anything about taking the Detroit thing back?
Tbh its one thing to have different views, but if its to the extent of something like that then I'm not going to out my eggs in that basket until I know for sure exactly what their specifications on banning anything is.
People are way too easily manipulated when you dangle the promise of morality in front of them.
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i found a little milk on ENA twitter. van_gato (van_cat787/ENAfucker69) is a they/them nonbinary ENA yoomer/artist that was recently caught sending porn to a minor. a few days later she accused mezo (usagimarumei) of being a pedo. van_gato has been tweeting about mezo since 2022, probably because she has more followers and nicer art. mezo is a japanese waifuist that’s been posted in the husbando thread, she’s a bit of a cow in her own right but not as much as the TIF with ENA colored anime hair.
No. 2622113
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Recently a popular online AI generator showed their list of what to remove by Visa/Mastercard, so people were using that to get a better understanding of what type of games they were after.
No. 2622290
>>2621297Tumblr. Older people that already knew the show would make posts about it, and people that weren't familiar with the shows, including zoomers, would react with something like "what the hell is going on in that show", so they started watching it out of irony poisoning because of the wacky meme reputation the show has on tumblr.
>>2621594>ColumboMaybe you've seen worse stuff than me, but the way tumblrinas blorbify Columbo at least feels less irony poisoned and less filled with people that never watched the show than the BrBa and House zoomers (I'm not counting the crappy voice acting memes).
No. 2622311
>>2622298The crazy thing is women
have complained about the double standard of censorship when it comes to games for years, about how its difficult to find media that panders to women, how scans are always a bitch to find, that many go full crab in a bucket and hide media behind pay walls, passwords, and discord, but for some reason none of that is worth thinking about, its totally going to be perfectly fine this time?
No. 2622381
>>2622302>The only thing stopping them from corrupting/ruining Columbo is the fact that they all think the world didn't exist before the year 1990Exactly why Columbo feels safer kek. Also because the only character of note across the entire show is Columbo himself, which means they can't do any "old man yaoi"/"
toxic yaoi" memes with him, which is always the main vector of infection.
No. 2622384
>>2622378You're never going to be able to defend anything if you can't have anything bad be related to it.
Laws for murder? Are you on the side of abusers and criminals?
This sort of thinking is incredibly childish, I'm not going to cut my own nose off to spite some other guy's face because it'd be very stupid to do so, especially since as people posted, it doesnt actually affect them much in the long run.
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>>2622386Zoomers really can't help themselves, can they
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>>2622397Help themselves with that? Wanting a more safer and better gaming store? Very suspicious that you think it's wrong to properly moderate it
No. 2622411
>>2622393Do you think that if you keep repeating your very simple emotional plea that it'll guilt trip others into agreeing with you?
"If ur against me ur 4 rape!!! So, shut up!!" is so fucking stupid. The more you guys act like this, its no wonder things are only going to get worse.
>>2622402Mask off, nore like you never wanted women to be given access to porn because its degenerate.
>>2622403Is it really crazy to use the saying as its normally written? Or do you not recognize it?
No. 2622412
>>2622363There's several anons here (me included) who already stated they're fine with making sacrifices and long as porn addicted moids hang themselves.
>>2622377KEK
No. 2622413
>>2622408Its not "defending the moids" its being cautious about policy changes because
nobody will defend you or your interests.You are not the mainstream, you are the scapegoat.
No. 2622417
>>2622413First they came for the gooners, and I didn’t stand up because I’m not a gooner.
Then they came for the ryonafags, and I didn’t stand up because I’m not a ryonafag.
Then they came for the otomes, and I didn’t stand up because I’m not an otome.
Then they came for Pokémon Puzzle League, and nobody was there to stand up for me…
No. 2622418
>>2622384Kek what is that example, people arguing for the removal of the death penalty were very much for upkeeping the lives of criminals out of their own moral code.
>>2622411>nonna questions your stakes and level of involvement>muh emotional pleas, muh guilt trippingCertain people should have never had access to therapy language. Stop hiding behind Yaoi, we all know what you are.
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>>2622064You already know this because it was certainly you posting the link, but the article that exposed the dbh thing was written by that disgusting fucking tranny Ana Valens, interesting as to how you treat his every word as gospel.
its getting so hard not to screech and scrotefoil you retards >>2622402I truly do hope it gets banned, actually, I don’t think any pornography should be accessible to children and BL is literally one of the most poignant examples, the girls growing up internalizing and idolizing these relationships have become insecure obsessive pooners mutilating their bodies because they think they can live out irl yoai. Slash Stacys in the 70s-90s during Nixon, Reagan and the aids pandemic and when having sex with other men could get you arrested + parcels were routinely analyzed and suppressed for indecency were still diffusing their spokirk zines within a small group of likeminded adult women, I’d infinitely prefer if my hobby wasn’t shitted up by internet addled children posting about old man yaoi, actually, so I’d be fine with having to yknow go the fuck outside and talk to other people to get access to this content. I can’t take seriously the nonnies who act like BL getting banned is the absolute litmus test of whether or not these bans are an actual slippery slope into hitlerville or not, like nooooooo they banned my gay cartoon rape game. noooo they banned the cartoons that make little girls transgender.
No. 2622445
>>2622431Don't project your thoughts on women onto me. Fact is
>>2621781 is already an example in reality.
Men are the ones running the companies. Use your brain, do you think a company ran by moids who probably jerk off to loliporn themselves aren't going to push things in their favor and treat men and women equally?
No. 2622468
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>>2622363>Scrotes invent the porn industry dedicated to raping women for the purpose of masturbating to it because they want women to suffer>Scrotes meddle with otome games giving the female leads huge tits and no focus on the male characters because they want women to suffer>Scrotes arrest fujos for making even vanilla BL because they want women to suffer>Scrotes destroy even yuri porn by giving female characters penises because they want women to suffer>Scrotes then make and buy rape games about women because they want women to suffer>Scrotes get themselves b& >WAAAAAH WOMEN HELP US HELP US GET OUR RAPE PORN ABOUT YOU UNBANNED, IT'S UP TO YOU TO HELP US GOON, WE'RE NOTHING WITHOUT OUR RAPE PORN ABOUT YOU, THINK OF ALL THE TIMES WE SUPPORTED YOUR PORN BEFORE NOW (never)What makes you think I would fall for this?
I can't even find porn that is actually for me anymore and you're saying "think of the future"? Think of the last decade, retard. Women haven't had shit the entire time even when it was uncensored because scrotes kept bulldozing anything women took interest in.
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>>2622426They wouldnt touch the incest yaoi… right?
No. 2622474
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>>2622461Tbh it's more doubtful that the "fujos" that are totally okay with things getting censored are fujo, especially with such replies as
>I don't watch porn>bl makes pooners No. 2622478
>>2622400>>2622408Agree. Moids always have to take muh freeze peach to absolute extremes like child porn and snuff films, but for
some reason, trying to reign in that behavior is always treated as a slippery slope, often to the detriment of women who act reasonably. Scrotoids are ingrates who always have to push the boundaries of what they're given until literally everyone loses basic privileges. If I were queen of the world, women would have complete freedom of speech, but men would hbe highly restricted. Men are 99% of the reason restrictions on speech have to be made.
No. 2622492
>>2622468"It can't possibly get worse!"
>said right before it gets worse, not to mention>Scrotes arrest fujos for making even vanilla BL because they want women to sufferHow did they manage that?
My original point wasn't even to fight with the moids anyway, you people project too much, my point is that you shouldn't demonize women that are
cautious about policy changes as "siding with the pedos".
Cautious.
No. 2622514
>>2622505Exactly. I understand it gets messy when we have to start creating boundaries of “good” porn and “bad” porn because everyone has different morals. But
nothing changes if we’re not even willing to have a conversation about it because… men might start arresting fujoshis somewhere down the line?
No. 2622520
>>2622514Demonizing the other side as "pro rape loli porn" makes
you the one unwilling to have a genuine conversation about it.
No. 2622531
>>2622526Frankly, I just wish they were upfront about their exact qualifications and how exactly they're planning on doing it. They should have been upfront about the exact things they're planning on banning instead of nonnas relying on chatgpt of all things. There wouldn't be a need to be cautious if they spelled it out for people to begin with, I think that's my biggest issue and why I'm not necessarily happy about it. I'm not counting my eggs before they hatch and its aggravating to see people already call it as a solid win.
As for as what should be banned and what shouldn't… that is a bit more difficult. Of course, there should be a r18 section, and frankly the policies on bl can be a bit looser, but moids take it way too fucking far. If you give an inch, they take a mile. Tbh I wonder if there would be a way to count comments since the comments are always mask off with how they feel about women irl.
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I don't understand how they determine what is allowed or not because they still have games like this available to purchase.
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>>2622363Moids didnt care when that FF twink got censored despite constantly shitting the internet with their whiny posts about gamergate censoring babes in vidya. Why should i care about them and their gooner problems they obviously only care about muh freeze peach when it affects their ability to harm women and children.
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>>2622402I hope i live to see the al capone of yaoi
No. 2622574
>>2622559I am not.
I am way too introverted to deal with black market fujo trading. Oh god, imagine having to make deals with the tif mob in order to get a volume, needing to show proof of official payment and also a donation to Palestine.
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>>2621781Using China as an example is disingenuous because china enacts censorship policies because they are a misogynistic, conservative country. I dont understand how china jailing BL authors because they hate women so much they have been aborting baby girls for decades is even remotely comparable to a feminist organization removing incest rape games off steam to improve the quality of life of women and girls. It's like you don't understand what drives China(an authoritarian, misogynistic commie shithole) to ban porn isn't the safety of women, it was to protect chinese traditional values.
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I don't even have a problem with yuri but I don't get this cope
Yes, there is yuri by women but it's still majority for men.
Even series like Utena that you would expect to be more popular with himejoshi have a bigger male audience (at least in Japan)
No. 2622620
>>2622599>Comparing Collective shout, a feminist organization to the CCP is ludicrous.Don't put words in my mouth, I never did that.
I said America and Britian and you twist it into being slander over a feminist organization, that's just sad.
Frankly, yeah I'll admit, I've been pretty cynical recently after the Epstein shit and the President basically being found to be a pedophile, maybe I'm taking it badly and am not trusting messy policies and laws to hold actual offenders accountable instead of only going after those that can't back themselves up. but this twisting shit in order to make me a strawman comparing feminist organizations to the fucking CCP is so fucking frustrating.
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>>2622624They weight more than me. Is it mostly new doujins? i hope you get to find some rare gems there. Also where did you buy them
nonny? i want to start collecting doujins since they are the only imported goods that arent a pain in the ass to import in my country.
No. 2622640
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>>26226130.1% of chance, 99.9% of faith, but if you end up with picrel me + a bunch of tumblrinas will owe you our lives if you scan (or take pics!) of it.
It's a Ryomina doujin by Sogabe himself. Backstory of this guy is that he got hired as the mangaka for the Persona 3 manga because editors saw him selling Persona 3 yaoi at a con.
Later after being hired, he continued his fanish adventures and made this doujin for a Ryomina fan event held in Japan and it's exclusive from it. So we are searching up and low to preserve it (there are no scans of it sans the cover and a sample page), both because it's Persona 3 story and for the fan event scene back then.
No. 2622672
>>2622640>RyominaBased taste
nonnie, I'm guessing doujins like that sell for a lot though kek (Yana's Togainu no chi doujins sell for a LOT)
No. 2622699
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>>2622672Ryomina isn't my main ship (…I say this as I wait for 2 different orders of ryomina fanmerch kek) as I'm not a m/m fan, Aikoto was the one that stole my heart. But I love the Moonlight Bridge trio and all their interactions, plus asian fans' love for Ryomina is contagious so with the years I ended up enjoying them as well haha. Congrats to them for being my first yaoi.
I do wonder about the price as I have never seen it for sale yet but Ichigo-Chan Say Goodbye (picrel, the other Sogabe doujin we are aware off) sells for very cheap, Sugura has it currently on stock for just 600 & 1k yen. It was sold twice though, one in comiket and another in the Ryoshu event, so that might affect its price. But I think overall these doujins aren't too valued by the general public, it's just a few of us hardcore Sogabe P3 fans who really want it.
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anons itt who aren't realizing the bigger picture here probably haven't actually seen the wording of what's being banned, because it's not just porn. if you look at the current itch.io guidelines you'll notice how it doesn't mention if there are exceptions to media that is critical of these topics, and not glorification, which means that they aren't making distinctions. so assuming that steam and itch have to follow similar guidelines the following games couldn't be published:
the witcher series
silent hill
yakuza
elden ring
dark souls
baldur's gate
game of thrones
life is strange
you see how fast this can become a problem? this isn't about porn because it doesn't stop AT porn. the writing doesn't even mention the words 'adult content' in them. it says 'ANY works'. that's not even a slippery slope argument because it's already here.
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For all the loons going on about needing to secure the existence of our yoai and a future for our fujoshis, literally where are the BL games getting shilled out on slop troughs like steam and itch.io? also tell me so I could buy them literally every single one of the current h games getting promoted on steam’s 18+ page is literally the lowest common denominator moid titillation, either 3D egirl nekomimi waifu rapesim or 3D hyper realistic Hawk Tuah barely legal teen rapesim, the closest I could find to sexual content of males and not for males was a literal fucking futa and femboy fucksim, and a game literally called ‘cumrooms’ that’s a schlocky sub zero effort scf porn parody in the backrooms consisting of nothing but big titty monsterfus, I could only barely consider it higher than the other moidslop bc the art was certainly drawn by a pooner and the male playable character has some residual influences from the bakudeku art she used to draw. inb4 ‘WUT ABOUT NITROCHIRAL??’ Did you faggots forget that sweetpool dmmd etc didn’t make it to steam until it was officially translated by companies like vshoujo that primarily translate moidslop, there’s basically no female created localization teams besides otomate and any BL/otome games get filtered along with cunny destruction 3: futanari festival. This isn’t even considering that both nitrochiral and JAST, the official translators for nitro, are both subsidiaries of larger male dominated and male marketed companies that have made some of the most grotesque and misogynistic games of all time, and have been doing so for decades. These games were distributed by official websites or in person with age verifications like at comikets or manga stores, and for westerners the few games that did have a fan translation would require
>1. being in the know on jp femgaze media and following blogs and forums for quite a while to discover the games and that fan translations are in development for them
>2. being able to torrent the original copies >3. Be able to patch it in, all of this needing hardware that isn’t as accessible to children or locals, needing laptops and desktops instead of smartphones
and if you wanted to play the majority of the games that didn’t get translated you’d have to either be mostly fluent in Japanese or be willing to pick up a Japanese dictionary and/or textbook while relying on the rudimentary and tumultuous machine translations of the time. I fully am in favor of there being a barrier of entry for BL, I don’t give a fuck if 9 year olds from Guatemala no longer are aware of BL and can’t post Aoba along with their pjsk yaoi memes anymore, get a fucking education.
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>>2622716On your point, they in fact DO mention that its not allowed if it is glorifying. And that its not an invitation to push the boundaries.
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>>2622716>rape>vomitMy husbando is illegal.
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>>2622716What will actually come out of this are moids doubling down and making even MORE loli incest rape games just on different platforms with different payment methods like crypto. Rules like these do absolutely nothing useful.
No. 2622772
>>2622729>cunny destruction 3: futanari festivalThis whole reply is gold but this made me kek so damn hard.
>>2622716They can still post this stuff; they just don't get paid for it. They're not removing games that fall into these categories that don't also violate an actual removal worthy rule.
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>>2622716This is the clarification that they do allow adult content, but it doesn't say anything about the new rules applying ONLY to adult content. they can enforce them on anything hosted on site.
to add on to this the owner of gelbooru posted a list of terms that get flagged by payment processors. so this would also include games like resident evil, metal gear, and if were just talking about glorification then mortal kombat and GTA.
>>2622733the list says implied content as well so shawshank wouldn't be allowed under these new rules, or something like westworld, or most crime procedurals.
No. 2622787
>>2621762>>2621778Cuck behavior or psyop. Can you not have one or the other?
>>2621768>drawn child pornI'll bite the Tumblroid bait and say that shota and yaoi are more intertwined than you think. The first BL manga was shota and it has always been part of fujo. But lemme guess, you're a crypto-handmaiden who thinks that women masturbating to fictional anime women equates to them wanting to rape your tardlet brother.
>>2622058NTAYRT but the founder of it is Christian and despite how much she'd like to separate it, her beliefs unconsciously show in her beliefs and activism. Why else would she be prolife?
>>2622402Same energy as moids cheering about BL being censored
>>2622429No one cares YWNBAM-chan. Go suck KF scrote dick
>>2622543One of the devs advocating for censorship of this character was a woman. Hope she gets molested on a train since she loves to suck up to men so much.
>>2622763This might be ideal actually
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>>2622787>the founder of it is Christian Not any of those anons but she hasn't been on the board of directors for 5 years. She resigned in 2020.
You can check their financial reports on the Australian charity register
https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity/charities/8f14b7df-39af-e811-a963-000d3ad24077/documents/ No. 2622829
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>>2622810Sure ig, but its constantly posted as a loli game with pedos involved. Brown Dust 2, pic related, is also Korean.
No. 2622830
>>2622828You're
very welcome nonna ♥
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>>2622838>basically no video games for women or girls existed in the west before 2005No, sorry. Stop talking. That couldn't be further from the truth. You sound like you were born in 2009 or some zoomer year. Get on my fucking level before you spout shit.
No. 2622879
>>2621973> Do they care about the actual dynamics of the characters and ships they think they understand?Hahaha, no.
They turn all characters into the exact same heckin
valid poly swinger troon original character do not steal
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>>2622853Nonnie I was being hyperbolic, of course I knew games like Purple Moon, chopped suey and HER interactive existed, just that they were an
outlier to the majority of male focused video games on the market. I specifically pointed out 2005 because it was a time period where video games that correlated to traditional female interests like nintendogs and cooking mama started getting western releases, and the first western released Otome games like yojinbo and JAST/hirameki’s female focused games started getting released, around 2005 was the time the ‘pink’ shelf started being stocked for games, before that point it was mostly a select few licensed shovelware products slipping between the cracks of ‘war simulator no.2983’ and ‘KEWL game for little BOYS boy only ew cooties!’, and the very select few original titles being created by female devs for young female gamers like purple moon, Trina Robbins’ Hawaii high, All about me etc didn’t see widespread popularity and would go into obscurity because no one believed that girls would play video games, just look at the post crash of ‘83 marketing for games, it’s all featuring and targeting little moids. From Barbie to Mortal Kombat is one of my favorite books, I didn’t say ‘no games for girls EVER existed until Barbie horse adventures’ because I’m uneducated on the subject of games for girls kek
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i'm confused, so all this panic is because payment processors have made stricter content guidelines?
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I hope Australia bans more games. I don’t care if the lady from collective shout used to be in some christian group or almost went after david cage’s movie game tripe. Lolicon seppos can get fucked. Call us evil authoritarians for having actual morals. Bring up our lockdowns for 600th time. Cry that we call you pedophile gooners (literally just the truth).
Don’t care. Cry more. In fact, I don’t even care if Ao3 gets banned here. It’s all moid and gendie handmaiden moidslop these days anyway.
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>>2623097They were expelled and have an eternal stain on their reputations
No. 2623124
>>2623114Oh I know I am nona. At least I don’t protect pedo moids and defend their slop if not straight up catering to them.
As if the degenerates running Ao3 will ever clean it up. They allow real person fiction of actual children.
No. 2623206
>>2623202Nta but I thought nonna was speaking
as an Australian
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Thought about it and im glad I live in an irrelevant third world country where this retarded shit that's discussed in this thread doesn't really affect me. Enjoy having to upload your IDs and personal info to literal whos just to see smut lmao.
No. 2623291
>>2623279Kek completely ot and not completely sure it was the prime minister or whatever but this reminded me of this silly YouTube edit made, pretty sure during covid, that edited clips of a female politician speaking saying she was mega hitler and was going to kill 10 thousand babies.
I know nothing about Australia but it was a well made edit.
No. 2623302
>>2623284Starving isn’t exactly what I’m thinking of.
>>2623279Hahaha you really do all believe the propaganda? I wasn’t locked in my house or “camp” or forced to get a vaccine at all. Only people I saw get arrested were bogans starting shit with/attacking cops or going out of the way to throw big parties during an outbreak. Are you one of the anti-vaxx schizos
nonnie? I’d rather be on “prison island” than your obesity-riddled “muh freedum”christfaggotry lands that births all the annoying “polyamorous she/it/faeself” tumblr fuckers
No. 2623314
>>2623298Kek’d. Hardly relevant now tho. Covid was years ago now and again, nothing even happened to you if weren’t deliberately doing dumb shit like a big house party.
Inshallah, our anti-lolicon empire will rise
No. 2623320
>>2623310Only anti-vaxx retards think there was “vaccine camps”. I think I’d know if I or anyone I knew had been put in a camp.
I’ll say it more simply. Your country is full of overweight woke morons who are responsible for shitting up all fandom and media and want everything to only reflect them at all times. Your country is under christian fascism. Call mine an authoritarian “prison island” all you want for us banning rape games, I’d still rather live here than over there.
(infighting) No. 2623330
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>>2623324I dont play loli rape games Aussietard and I dont care if that gets axed or whatever. Imagine living in a country where you have to give up your identity to literal strangers just to browse the internet to "own the lolifags". Id rather kill myself.
(bait) No. 2623338
>>2623329I'm talking about content that's only hidden for Europeans, not nuked, I'm not talking about games that were completely banned on itch. I have plenty of hobbies that don't involve yaoi, I'm just making a point that rules are badly implemented. It's reminding me of the porn ban on tumblr, good in theory, so badly implemented in practice that it backfired and there was still plenty of porn in there but normal pictures that weren't NSFW in the slightest were considered porn by a shitty bot based on colors so a mostly orange sunset picture could be flagged as porn but bdsm porn gifsets weren't as long as they were in black and white. Honestly, I think everything is halfassed right now because of a recent criminal case in France where some nerdy scrote in high school stabbed to death a teacher aid, Macron started sperging that video games make kids violent and social media is bad for minors so it must had sped up the whole process to get that new EU law ready. Macron was then seen in Japan Expo, which was full of violent manga and video games and asked autographs from Dragon Ball voice actors but shhh it's fine as long as he's doing it, don't question it. I really want kids to gtfo of social media because they're annoying as fuck and can see things they should have access to here, and have their own safe spaces far away from online predators but the way twitter is handling this is worrying me in general.
No. 2623340
>>2623333I get your point but it's too idealistic. Even a good parent is going to have a hard time regulating their kid's internet usage in today's era where have a tiny computer in your pocket at all times is the societal norm.
>>2623338>I really want kids to gtfo of social media because they're annoying as fuck and can see things they should have access to hereI wish kids and adults had separate social media spaces but I know that's pretty much impossible because the second anything is 18+ it just turns into pure pornography
No. 2623375
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>>2623357>>2623359Why the fuck are you retards comfortable with giving random strangers your personal identity on the internet. I dont want to be apart of ANY databreaches regardless of content. This shit has nothing to do with porn why the fuck are you tards like this. Lack of self preservation? Kill all anti fujos ffs.
(infighting/fujosperging) No. 2623395
I wouldn’t even fully blame it on the parents (it’s still their faults to a certain extent) but social media is designed to be as addicting as possible. Kids have shocking content like porn shoved onto their feeds, gore has even shown up on youtube kids before. The issue these lawmakers really can’t grasp is that most kids aren’t seeking porn out, you used to have to seek it out anyways. it gets shoved onto them by recommendation engines. Those engines (and in what contexts they’re used in) have to be restricted. Also kids need their own spaces online, this can be done by making sure a few people don’t have the internet in their hands. People should make their own websites, and kids companies should make websites for kids. You can’t shove everyone into one space with the same exact rules, especially with kids around.
I support any laws banning profiting off of porn and banning porn (that exploits women), but this doesn’t restrict the creation of porn. It just puts it behind a barrier. Which can work as a deterrent, but also doesn’t when people know how to get around it. The internet should be free to roam, exploitative pornographic content should be stabbed before it can even get off the ground.
So as much as the parents are at fault (and mind you, most kids platforms like youtube kids are filled to the brim with mind numbing slop) the way the internet is regulated is a big factor as to why this actually sucks. Kids don’t deserve to stumble into porn and gore because big tech knows it’ll keep their eyes on the screen, that’s the issue. You guys can always do your own part by staying away from big sites like twitter and making your own sites with your own rules. It really pisses me off how governments around don’t even realize what the actual issue is, how much do you guys wanna bet the elsagate content that borders on fetish content won’t get harmed?
No. 2623400
>>2623393You know that they don't have to store your ID online either, right? In theory the government just needs to enforce protection laws and have regulations against storing customer ID on file, like most already have.
>Would you give your ID to whoever the fuck is running this site? Dont be retarded.No, but lolcow isn't a site for viewing porn? And again, is also a luxury. If tommorrow I couldn't browse lolcow because you need to use ID on here then so be it? It's a small sacrifice for the greater good of NOT EXPOSING CHILDREN TO PORN. Some people I swear have grown so attached to being able to be a retard completely unregulated online. If you were born before the internet and couldn't gossip online and read yaoi and degen fanfics, would you an hero? Obviously not. You would have actual healthy hobbies and irl interests, go outside and read or touch grass.
No. 2623409
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>>2623400Why the fuck are you insisting that me and others are porn addicts that has 0 other hobbies because I dont trust strangers on the internet having access to peoples personal info? "Think of duh children whos gonna jack off to digital circus roblox porn on youtube anyway and everyone else is gonna suffer for it".
No. 2623414
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>>2623375Can I just say that I feel so terrible for the women that are having their faces leaked and pitted against each other for how attractive one is over the other? God, it's such a stupid fucking move to give your ID AND motherfucking selfie away all nilly willy like that, but I still feel so awful for the women getting their faces bullied all over the internet. One of those instances where cyberbullying exceptionally becomes real.
No. 2623416
>>2623404It's funny because I'm a fujo and I still support age verification online. If you're so lost in fujo sauce that you can't comprehend how less porn exposure is inherently good for society, then you've taken cooming one step too far. Yes, I would give up my precious anime boys if it means children don't have to get groomed into violent porn from age 10. No question about it.
>>2623409You're missing the point where I said porn online is a luxury. Just go buy porn irl? Epitome of a first world problem.
No. 2623468
>>2623414It's bottom of the barrel moids who in reality would fuck anything with a hole and made the website to rate these women so they can feel a modicum of power and "getting back at them" for the mere possibility these women exchanging their experience with fellow
abusive garbage XYs. Which ironically just proves all of us right.
When we're getting beaten, kidnapped, tortured and violated it's "REEE your own fault for picking shit men, you should have known!" and when women exchange the first names, cities and faces ofthose shit men to protect eachother it's "REEE how dare you gossiping lying witches doxx me-I mean poor innocent men!"
They just reveal themselves.
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Is this some new retarded term to involve more trannyshit in an otherwise cock-free setting?
No. 2623689
>>2623679That's the claim. It doesn't mean it's true or trustworthy.
I don't get why people are so supportive of internet ID verification when there's plenty of other ways to protect children that don't infringe on adult privacy.
Children don't need to engage in fandom online, and children don't need smart devices.
No. 2623790
>>2623738The issue is that websites for children are usually shit. The internet had spaces for children (like the barbie website, cartoon network website, or those huge ass game sites with millions of random flash games) but nowadays, specially those spaces, are plagued with terminally online adults who won't stay in their lanes.
Like why the fuck is an adult playing fucking roblox? Even those who are playing it because they think it's funny or whatever are obnoxious. That shit isn't for us, it's for the kids. We have better stuff to be autistic with.
I do think kids shouldn't use social media and that social media should be 18+, but I think kids need their own spaces with no interaction with each other like back then, where you could just spend the day playing games, printing random activity sheets, and not even wonder if there's other people at the other side of the screen. Like, kids don't need to interact with anyone other than their family, schoolmates and teachers. Chat functions are utterly unnecessary for kids.
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rambling ahead.
did an experiment where I only follow/like japanese fanartists on my twitter to see how fast my algo changed. It worked.
Its nice to not see the usual western fandom drama, and just see cute fanart of my faves without politics being shoved onto it, or normies that happened to come across a post giving their two cents when no one asked. It feels like old school fandom again where people simply just enjoyed the media they consumed instead of trying to turn it into activism.
like pic rel. western fandom seems to be fighting over the ethnicity of this character for some reason, meanwhile japanese fans are just happily drawing him with no drama attached. its such a relief
No. 2624009
>>2623790The fact that the roblox team is now trying to add dating to roblox makes me sick, kids have literally nowhere to go. That’s one of the reasons i don’t like the law, because it doesn’t get rid of the porn problem (doesn’t actually cut the production of it) but it
also doesn’t recognize the root of the problem. The fact that kids online are grouped together with adults. There’s so much porn on roblox now and it’s disgusting. I highly doubt anything will be done about it, roblox already has an ID system and it hasn’t helped kids in the slightest. they still stumble onto porn and get harassed by pedos. See, roblox’s rules aren’t for kids anymore despite it being
for kids. So now there’s a shitton of kids playing roblox with adults who can get away with shoving adult content in their faces. This is why kids having their own spaces online is so important, this is also why tech/online literacy needs to be pushed in schools.
A lot of people online act like kids search for nsfw content and go into “adult spaces” on purpose when in reality it’s pushed onto their feeds because they liked something about a kids show or some shit. It’s not their fault. You can’t have a “space” on a site using a recommendation algorithm.
Look into the new elsa gate, these kids are becoming retarded because youtube can’t keep up with the gross slop disguised as funny/kids content being forced on kids’ feeds. People have to wake up.
Im for nasty incest rape games being taken off of steam (cuts off the distribution, so yeah, ban it.) but I don’t like ID laws like this online (only cuts off the access, but not fully). For one, you don’t just show these websites your ID, they have to store the ID and review it. Meaning it’s stored in a server somewhere (like the tea app). Two, roblox implemented ID and the pedophile problem is still extremely bad, arguably worse. Roblox is kind of unique since it’s a kids space turned into an adult’s space, but roblox has just completely given up on protecting kids (they never really did to begin with because they’re fucking lazy). They know adults are the ones spending money, so of course they pander to adults leaving kids in danger. Again, kids spaces are extremely important online as is tech literacy. Protect them from porn by banning the distribution of porn for everyone and giving them their own spaces with their own rules online. I wish people cared about this tbh
No. 2624247
>>2624241"Dni" is the stupidest shit in general. I dont know how such entitled newfag behavior got enabled across the internet. I get tons of "proshit dni" retards interacting with my posts, well shouldnt it go both ways? Makes me think theyre just pretending to hate "le
problematic" shit as a virtue signal but like it behind closed doors kek.
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>>2624260I see it a lot but seeing it in the comments for this figure made me laugh so hard.
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>>2624272>LOLI/SHOTA DNI>has this kit in her collectionOk then.
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>>2624294I genuinely want to know how people like this convince themselves that obvious loli/ecchi or even full on porn figures are somehow unrelated to what they're depicting.
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>>2624303Still not as funny as claiming Nekopara loli figures are feminist.
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>>2624329Speaking of which, the cope over her album cover was fucking hilarious.
No. 2624352
>>2624242Just skip to the timestamps and look at the content he shows as examples. I'd recommend looking at the minions AI shit if you wanna see something that'll make you a doomer KEK
>>2624146Does major game shops banning a shit load of these games not count as cutting off the distribution? I don't necessarily disagree with the ID thing, (although I will never trust "X corp" or fucking "meta" with my information lmfao. I dont look at porn or anime nsfw content though as I have sex with my girlfriend) it's just it doesn't really fix the issue of porn being shown to kids. Porn is trojan horse'd to them through fake kids content meant to scare them and in return, giving the content farms more views and more money. That's when they develop fetishes and actually seek out the illicit material. So yes, blocking kids from seeing full on
porn is really good but it actually isn't preventing the issue we're seeing in the modern internet age. Kids get shown porn through telegrams now too, (see: minion AI gore/CP rabbithole).
Also, people's IDs are stored in servers. (See: Tea App.) It's really REALLY retarded to leave it up to individual platforms to handle people's IDs. Honestly it'd be better if you could just ID yourself when you first get your computer and then get some sort of random code to enter into websites if you're of legal age to view any of this stuff (of course, probably not the best idea as I just made it up on a whim.) However, individual platforms should not be handling user's data like this. Meta, X, ByteDance, etc have all gotten into trouble about this kind of stuff.
In my opinion, the Gov should have planned a system that would have users safe from having to lend their personal data to corporations like this. Especially when these corporations already use that data to influence politics and sell users shit based off of their identity.
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>>2624338>meant to show it as exactly as misogynistic as the men areYes I'm sure this was also meant to be "satire" and totally not a fetish thing
No. 2624396
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Physical media fags cant stop winning
No. 2624426
>>2624364you know it’s not actually gonna protect kids right? it’s extremely stupid to write off privacy concerns as “coomer shit”. people shouldn’t have to deal with a nanny state just because parents don’t wanna look after their kids
>>2624396lolifaggots gtfo
No. 2624451
>>2624423Why would they raid me? they arent banning porn just making it hard to access to children online, buy nothing faggots are getting BTFO because they are lazy and wanted quantity over quality. Now the landfill of gooner unity assets flips on steam are coming back to bit them in the ass. No one is going to knock at my door for ordering physical doujins and VNs just like how no one is getting arrested for buying old playboy magazines.
>>2624426eh? just because i posted a random anime girl dancing i am a lolifaggot now. I am not even a homo, i like men.
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>>2624396Youre not worried about physical media becoming illegal/difficult to import and are willing to eat up localizer shit?
There's already been a case where a relationship between a guy and a trap was translated to sound more like a transgender relationship.
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>>2624469>just go to Japan if you want to read anythingNonna normal people can't do that practically.
No. 2624487
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The only solution to keep kids away from getting exposed to porn and being groomed is to keep them offline. We need to bring back that going outside in the sunshine is cool and spending all day in front of a screen is for losers, the internet just makes people retarded in general. We need to find a middle ground between being without internet and no places for annonymous discussion and social media schizoprenia and fried attention span. I don't know how things were pre-social media but when i was a kid there were no "third spaces" that i could hang out in and my friends lived far away so i quickly became addicted to tv and the computer, i had other toys as well but i was defintely glued to a screen and if i was a kid today i would've been an ipad kid.
So the solutions are either:
>Make internet corny and for kids with no aura, we go back to flip phones and nokias and stop socializing through social media, kids go back to playing with actual toys
>creating a dumber smartphone or computer for kids that has only has game apps and or games downloaded on to the computer but no browser and is offline and so are the games, so no interaction with the algorithm and other people online. Like a bigger and smarter tamagotchi or nintendo. Games can range from how they usually work on apps to old 2000s websites for Barbie, myscene, monster high but it is only limited to the website. The point is no internet but what kids want out of the internet.
>Create a deadly virus that targets the creatures with the Y chromosome
No. 2624523
>>2624515Damn, never knew posting on lolcow took the same effort as it does to learn Japanese, the amount of money needed for classes, basically free frankly.
Or do you think Duolingo is enough to learn Japanese with?
No. 2624533
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>>2624487>Make the internet "boring" again (reduce the amount of traffic on certain sites by allowing users other options, slower traffic means more people go outside instead of anticipating for new content all of the time). >Put content curating in the hands of the human again. >Antitrust laws so three corporations cant own the entire internet (google got in trouble for shoving down smaller forums). >get kids in coding classes so they can make their own personal websites (the internet should be vast like a city). Also teach kids internet safety (again) duh The internet right now is too overstimulating, yet all of this is contained within few social media platforms, there is too much going on. Restrict the use of recommendation engines with sites that have ads too. The internet should not be one big walmart supercenter, it needs to be multiple small businesses.
No. 2624551
>>2624539Not the same thing at all, any kid who types "boobiez" on google gets infinite results and that itself is a gateway to dig deeper for more and more content from the infinite wellspring of increasingly niche and fucked up porn of the internet.
Also I don't remember hearing of a single kid back in the day whose dad had playboy magazines, it's clearly not nearly as consistent of an ocurrence as internet porn usage.
No. 2624564
>>2624556I'd support it only if there's a way to prevent overpopulation without resorting to artificial culling. Let the sun finish us off instead.
>>2624557Take meds please.
No. 2624574
>>2624539>it was a pretty mainstream joke that little boys would look at their dad's playboy magazines.It was only a joke for those who weren't on the receiving end of those moidlets' sexual harassment, anon. Boys consuming porn doesn't exist in a vacuum, there are actual child
victims who suffer. COCSA is a term for a reason.
No. 2624627
>>2624586So
you spend hours on this site, neetnona. Its addictive to
you. Please don’t project onto me thanks.
No. 2624638
This is your first message
>>2624502 it's from an hour ago, you have been here defending the access to porn and then complaining you dont have enough time to learn japanese. An hour is how long a Japanese class with a professional teacher lasts btw.
No. 2624768
>>2624638The concept of doing other things and checking a thread you replied on and off alludes you.
Multitasking also, is something that you can't really do during lessons.
Frankly, I'm shocked that "not everyone has time or money to take Japanese classes or go to Japan because they want to read manga" would be that unpopular and "lazy" of an opinion to say.
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In extremely late news Aethys' American webmasters had announced it's closure at the start of the year, due to the American election results intimidating them. Somehow it still survives by virtue of a European troon bankrolling it back into perpetuity so it is still active
>>2624768in the company of idiots reason is rebellion or whatever the quote was
No. 2624981
>>2624960Nta but I'm wondering if neurosis is a predecessor to amazing art skill and you can take the art pill but at the sacrifice of increasing your neurosis at the same time. That's how it feels to follow artists on twitter.
Btw what kind of things have they said that stuck with you, or basically can you share any examples?
No. 2625255
>>2624543NTA but I have been trying to lesrn japanese (by myself, the schools and online courses over here suck a ton from what I've told) for awhile now and I have been kinda lost, so thanks a ton for that link!
English's speakers hate towards learning languages fascinate me, it's always "I don't have time" or the usual "I can't because I'm too old!!" as excuses when all it takes is 2 hours a week for awhile to learn basic grammar/vocab and then jump straight into talking/reading online and trying out series/ganes on your target language, in around 4 year you will be able to speak it well (and this is the slow/leisure way). But I guess if anything takes nore than 3 days to archive it means it's impossible to do.
No. 2625281
>>2625246Japanese fans are more normal and chill than the mentally ill americans. Yes, there's the occasional loli gooner otaku you have to avoid but that's it and if you only follow women, rare.
Meanwhile western fandom people are constantly pushing
>muh polyamory(haremfagging by another name they can claim you're a "homophobic bigot" for not liking)>performative politics>t4t and troon headcanons you're not allowed to disagree with>cancelling people for being apostates/not bending to their ideology >erasure of canon characterizations and story under "up to interpretation! I can see this character as literally me in every way if I want! I don't care what the creator said!" No. 2625492
>>2625326The best example of this is My Little Pony. For some god awful reason, when Friendship Is Magic came out in 2014, I believe, men immediately flocked to the show. Even worse, trannies took it over and hypersexualized literal cartoon horses made for cartoons, particularly little girls.
I think adult spaces can be fine, but it's men who hypersexualize everything for no reason.
No. 2625514
>>2625281real…It's almost impossible to take part in western fandom if you don't care for a popular headcanon and don't incorporate it into your fanart/fics. God forbid you dont see a gay headcanoned character as gay.
I used to like headcanons a lot more when they werent treated as absolute truth at most, just developed into AU's to play around with.
No. 2625650
>>2625281Why can't anyone talk about their experience with fandom tards in other parts of the world without someone going "but Americans are worse!!"
We know that already. Let people talk about something other retarded Americans for once.
No. 2625897
>>2625326You're right, it's why kids new their own spaces where they can't interact with anyone, because it's just too easy to create an account saying that you're definitely 12 years old, while with ID verifications, it's harder for a kid to pretend to be 18 years old.
And like, the websites shouldn't allow user-made content or customizable personal pages, because that also fucks up the whole thing and puts kids in danger.
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Zelda fans truly never stop being retarded. This person is 28 by the way. Honter is also white, but I guess being a troon moid with an american accent makes it "diverse"
No. 2625989
>>2625979It would better help to gatekeep the zoomertards from finding it anyway
>>2625983IHNMAIMS prison rapes Mouthwashing in both story and gameplay. Even IB is more fun than Mouthwashing. Cry about it.
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>>2625949Great things happening
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>>2625949>>2625968To be fair Collective Shout have only ever wanted to target rape/incest/abuse simulation games against women and children like No Mercy where it's from a male POV and the entire point is gooning to degrading women and children.
They never actually mentioned ~all mature games or games that tackle mature topics.~ Any removal of games outside of rape simulation games are Steam's/Itch's decision.
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>>2625994Looks like you go through a creep's computer who was obsessed with a porn actress. It looks pretty graphic from the trailers.
>>2625960Like the whole point of the game was the MC scrote dealing with the fallout from committing rape offscreen. It's not a good game by any means but it was hardly shoehorned in.
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Half hoping this gets enough momentum to stop the sale of GTA6 next year. The meltdown would be hilarious.
No. 2626084
>>2626075Not even
mentioned, it's implied. I don't like Mouthwashing for a lot of reasons, but one thing it gets right is not shoving the rape down our throats.
No. 2626085
>>2626077I believe itch.io took down all adult games at once for manual review to be put back up later. However now extra games are being taken down.
I'm guessing the initial take down was because they need to be a lot more cautious than Valve since they don't have a lot of extra money lying around.
No. 2626088
>>2626077I wonder if some of the staff are going overboard with the de-listings on purpose, as a means of stoking backlash against
all content restrictions. Just have a separate fucking platform for the goon games ffs.
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>>2625281Kek truly the words of a weeb who knows fuckall about Japanese Otaku. Otaku react to idols having boyfriends the way troons reacted to JK Rowling saying that there are two sexes.
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>>2623417Update: just banned them all. The brats kicked up a fuss as expected but I will say it is very gratifying to see them clawing at my DMs and friend requests for a justification while I sip coffee and ignore the lot of them, kek. So sorry that being an obnoxious TikTok brat isn’t tolerated everywhere you go online. Some of us have our limits.
No. 2626141
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I can't believe this person is actually 24 years old. It's the same tif that tagged her pregnancy announcement as mpreg
No. 2626149
>can't see some yaoi related posts on twitter because of the new UK and European laws anymore, I remember the tweets were nsfw so it makes sense even if it's annoying>seeing different artists on my fyp than usual but for the characters and pairings I like>checking one artist in particular because I like her style>checking her media tab on my computer so it looks like a grid like on instagram, most of her pictures are visible with just a few ones hidden>suddenly past a recent date literally all her tweets with pictures and videos are hidden, I get curious and check her profile one nitter>everything I can see on nitter past that date is normal, twitter's AI just flagged normal drawings of normal guys wearing clothes and normal pictures of dolls and plushies of Cinnamon or Hello Kitty standing in front of plates or bowls of food as adult contentHas anyone noticed similar issues? The more I learn how these new laws are applied the worse it gets.
>>2626124Anon was obviously talking about fandoms for fictional stories and characters and not idolshit made for degenerate male otaku. It would be more accurate to compare Japanese idol fandoms to other celebrities in the music industries and their insane fans. Fans of fictional characters are insane in their own specific ways.
No. 2626152
>>2625949Seeing a bunch of alleged radfems cheer for the censorship of games, including games that merely depict implied rape in a way that doesn't glorify it (i dont even like mouthwashing either) makes me question my beliefs. At this point it's not about protecting women, it's pro-censorship of anything I don't like, even stuff that plays no part in the exploitation of women. Also why the fuck do so many of you hate fujos and want their media censored?
Also the main sponsor of the pro censorship Kids Online Safety Act is an Israel shill and you cannot tell me this is just the Ziobots attempt (of many) at trying to censor any pro-Palestine sentiment. Call me a schizo but this is what it looks like to me.
No. 2626165
>>2626160So many retards on here have extremely black and white thinking, I've said something along the lines a couple times of
>i'm glad no mercy got banned and other realistic rape games are following suit but i'm worried about how this will affect femporn and even non sexual games that depict rape>so you think lolishit should be allowed?Tiresome
No. 2626183
>>2626167Same energy as lolifag moids celebrating Trump winning knowing he's gonna censor their porn, kek
>>2626169I'm relieved knowing I'm not alone. Agree with everything you said.
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>>2626152If it helps, these are examples of the type of games Collective Shout actually want removed, the ones that use incest and child abuse to facilitate arousal.
https://www.collectiveshout.org/child-protection-experts-on-steam-abuse-gamesAnd Itch have already said they're introducing and enforcing new content standards so that most likely requires them to evaluate all previously marked adult games regardless of content.
>main sponsor of the pro censorship Kids Online Safety Act is an Israel shill What do you mean?
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>>2626008>>2626210collective shout also said this about one of the most blatantly exploitative pieces of media of real little girls i've ever seen. so pardon mean if i don't think their intentions are exactly what they say they are.
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>>2626229That's not a game so it doesn't count. Now Detriot Become Human, a game where you rescue people from abuse situations, that needs to be banned.
No. 2626297
>>2626280Nta but I dont see why you wouldn't if the tweet is still up.
Not like its hard to delete a tweet, if its still under the organization's name then that's that.
No. 2626333
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>>2626280ayrt I get that but I meant the person in particular (Reist) who made the tweet. She's the founder so she probably wants to keep it up, since it links to her own article, even if she doesn't make the charity decisions anymore. Also I checked who the latest directors are using that register link and none of the directors on that 2020 list are at the charity org anymore so they're not making these current campaigns on games or anything.
Anyway here's the article that the founder wrote and linked in that Cuties tweet
https://www.abc.net.au/religion/melinda-tankard-reist-the-ethics-of-mignonnes-cuties/12718886 No. 2626489
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someone improve this
No. 2626601
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>>2625949https://bsky.app/profile/itch.io/post/3lv2gsf3jlk2xohhhh so that was a fearmongering twisting of the truth and mouthwashing wasn't available on itch long before any of this shit went down wowwwwww
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>>2626617Yeah because itch are redoing their content standards, meanwhile purchased games are still available as long as game devs haven't removed files themselves
No. 2626838
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>>2626152Your post legit gives the same vibes as those troons mad they can't groom children anymore.
No. 2626880
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>>2626838didn't you read what she just typed? are you retarded?
No. 2626962
I don't have a problem with "uncomfortable" topics being banned because otherwise it's just masturbation fodder for scrotes and pickmes whether it's explicit or implied. This might offend a lot of nonas bit at the end of the day videogames, movies, tv shows, manga, comics, and art in general it's just entertaintment.
>but nona if it's well done it makes people THINK!
Why do need a game to think? Why is entertaintment where women are abused, implied or explicit, so important? The vast majority of the time the creator gets exposed for being a creep and even the game itself ends up being typical fetish shit that gets hyped up by gendies, and regardless of what the creator is like, the piece of media always ends up attracting porn addicts. Watching movies and playing games isn't activism and you aren't some enlightened genius for consuming media like this. You're not any different than the retards that post watermelons and link donations for Gaza and then go back to their regular life.
If only women were allowed to create art then i would consider otherwise but the normal creators would be drowned out by the pickmes since that's the type of people that type of media attracts. If rape and abuse of women was taken seriously irl then my thoughts might differ but it isn't, and no i don't know playing a game and talking about it will help with anything in real life.
>inb4 but why does it have to help irl?
Because otherwise you're just sensationalizing the abuse of women as entertaintment and desensitizing people to it. I'm just sick of media being full of rape and abuse shit and now i have to see it media again and then have to see retarded takes and fetish fanart of it AGAIN.
No. 2626967
>>2626962This is gonna make a lot of people mad. I don't disagree with you though. If people truly cared about games' messages and used them to think about other people, society and the world and shit, why did so many scrotes throw a tantrum about the Silent Hill remake "not having the rape
victim be hot anymore"? If people truly cared about what these games are saying, they wouldn't have reacted that way.
No. 2626977
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The UK ban adding to this and people whining they can't see their precious porn fanart on twitter is making me kek hard. So glad I stopped caring about being a part of fandom. You can all lose for all I care. It's what you people deserve.
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I don't care about not being able to see wholesome fanart of ships like zelink either. Wah wah. None of you truly appreciated those works made by people with actual talent either because in truth you just see all main characters in all media as your disgusting insert for your degenrate lifestyles, collecting women like trophies. You don't have the right to complain when you never actually cared or appreciated such wistful and beautiful ship works in the first place faggots. You didn't deserve any of it. I'm sure tumblr, bluesky and ao3 still has your "poly" harem porn, so stop crying
No. 2626992
>>2626967>>2626962Exactly this. Trying to make it about "the message!" is a fools errand anyway.
It always comes down to self insert validation and porn. People are incapable of anything else. You expect too much from them.
No. 2627007
>>2621149>Fandom in the east was created by fujos(straight women)Fandom in Japan was created by women and men separately. The men were covert pedophiles (proto-lolicons who were still too ashamed to admit they were attracted to shoujo protagonists) and the women were just shoujo manga fans and some were even authors themselves. They'd hold conventions dedicated to shoujo manga. Then, yaoi was made and a lot of female otaku became fujos, while lolishit was made and it caused a lot of degenerate scrotes to come out as pedophiles, some of which were even professional animators.
Either way, most of these people were straight and not trannies. A lot of them had jobs and families and stuff. The father of manga, Ozamu Tezuka, was a furfag, but he was still straight and had a wife and a child. Actually, I think his fans predate the both the shoujo manga and yaoi fandom stuff.
>and in the west by furfaggots(zoophiles) and fujosNah, it's even older than that. Western fandom in the 20th century was started by science fiction (literature) fans. Not many of them were furfags or slash fans at that point, but both furfags and western fujos did have some relation to science fiction fandom. IIRC both came about after SFF expanded to include "media" (TV and such).
Still, you're right about the supposed LGBT connection being fake on both sides. It was mostly straight people.
>>2621230The first furfags were mostly straight IIRC but shortly after they started their own IRL groups and conventions it attracted a bunch of bisexual moids and other sorts of degenerates that would be classified as "LGBT" by retarded gendies these days (BDSM apparently is "queer" so it's LGBT lol)
>>2621261Pretty sure some people used to think Link was a girl in OoT, probably because they weren't used to Japanese-style male characters, but that's it.
No. 2627027
>>2622716>yakuzatbf those games have a real issue with glorifying prostitution, pornography and the dehumanization of women kek
There's probably way more pro-porn content than anti-sexual abuse content in them.
>>2622729>needing laptops and desktops instead of smartphonesBased, keep the technologically illiterate out of our online spaces.
Agreed with everything you said. A bunch of other R18 joseimuke VN companies (whether they make BL or otome) are subsidiaries of moid-oriented VN companies. Moids control the VN, video game, manga, anime(…) industry. Moids control practically everything, which is why the world is so shit for us, even our fucking entertainment for the purpose of escapism, and I'm sick of it.
>>2621778I hope the dev who made these finds another way to distribute them
or at least I hope someone includes them in a torrent. I never got a chance to buy them.
No. 2627034
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Upset american furries calling for Canberrans to protest. Laughing. We don't do that here, sir. When was the last time canberrans protested anything? Maybe some zoomies for palestine. Genuinely don't remember. Everyone is too busy clocking into the office to protest.
Also putting aside most normies wouldn't know nor care, most women here would agree with collective shout's stance save for maybe the gendies who looove the ugly tranny roundabout. Just got a goodie bag from this org the other day:
https://au.linkedin.com/company/the-female-leader-ausCanberra women upset worldwide gooners and tras. Surreal. Finally something putting this boring place on the map.
No. 2627036
>>2627034I hate situations like these because scrotes are subhuman and
will harass and threaten women in real life over something as stupid and trivial as not being able to jack off to a particular rape video game anymore.
No. 2627048
Just so you know: if you use DLsite, you can use crypto to buy points now, you just need to set up a compatible crypto wallet. I did it the other day and it was really easy.
I think crypto might become a good workaround in the future for this sort of thing.
>>2626008At first I thought Collective Shout was in the right. I read their posts about their anti-prostitution activism, criticism of OnlyFans, responses to scrotes who cried over the rape incest game that got banned on Steam, and didn't think there was anything suspicious about them like their detractors said). But this situation has definitely gotten out of hand.
Up until a few moments ago, I would've fully agreed with
>>2626005. Porn isn't a necessity, and it's fucked up that it has turned into such a huge "market" that some people's livelihoods depend on it. We can live without buying drawn pornography on the internet. Of course, moids would massacre thousands of people before giving up their woman-hating and pedo porn, so this is easier said than done. A world free of porn would be nice, but maybe we're all so pornsick (regardless of sex) that we can't even imagine and aren't willing to accept such a thing. Anyway.
It looks like Collective Shout had good intentions. After all, they're right about how media influences people, and how moids (and unfortunately some women and girls too) will learn to see women, children and animals alike as sex objects the more they're exposed to the fetishes of sick fucks, and this affects us in real life. We all know it's true. But yeah, there was no way that payment processors would actually give a fuck and only ban misogynistic, pedophilic and rape-themed porn. Of course they'd blanket-ban ALL kinds of mature sex-related works. Innocent erotic works and stuff that isn't even meant to be erotic (stuff that actually criticizes rape instead of glorifying) have been caught in the crossfire, it seems. I hate that this has ended up affecting women whose content has nothing to do with what this organization is supposedly targeting. And I also agree with the nonas who said this could be easily manipulated to censor good things that aren't porn.
But I don't think it's the organization's fault. I mean, we can all see it's not their fault, right? There's a clear difference between misogynistic pornography and criticism of misogyny. There's a difference between a moid jerking off to rape incest fantasies and a woman calling out abusers through a fictional story. This wouldn't have happened if scrotes weren't so fucking disgusting and didn't constantly fantasize about hurting and dehumanizing others for their own pleasure to such an extent that they put their fetishes on full display for millions of people to see and to promote their degeneracy.
>>2625968>>2626044A Japanese indie otome dev I follow on Twitter has been tweeting about these news occasionally. It seems that Japanese otaku have already caught wind of what's going on over here. Some of them call it "cultural invasion" (I rolled my eyes when I read that, tbh). This dev I follow hasn't actually made any R18 game, and the game she's working on will be on Steam, but she feared that it'd be banned due to these regulations. I also rolled my eyes at this because her game has no explicit content (the protagonist does sexually harass the love interests, but it's not shown visually), so I thought it'd be impossible for it to get delisted or anything. But now, I'm not so sure. She also uploaded one of her other SFW games to Itch.io and she said it might've gotten delisted too because she accidentally tagged it as "adult".
And now it's scaring me too because I'm making a porn game where you can abuse the male love interests. At first, I wasn't planning to charge for it, then I changed my mind, then I thought it'd be better if I just made it free but uploaded it to itch.io, and now I've decided to distribute it for free in some other way.That said, this has nothing to do with the Collective Shout/porn ban thing, but this dev I'm talking about has been trying to learn about the western indie game scene, and in the process, she has learned what Amareshit is. I'm afraid that I might be watching this based dev I support turn into another Japanese gendie in real time. I've seen another Japanese indie dev on Twitter who's in the same "circle" and who is also making a otome game, but her OC's profiles include retarded LGBTQ+ labels and flags.
I hate how troonshit has influenced even Japanese otaku,
especially female otaku, and now these women are more familiar with troonshit ideas than with the most basic feminist ideas.
No. 2627057
>>2627048>stuff that actually criticizes rape instead of glorifying>There's a difference between a moid jerking off to rape incest fantasies and a woman calling out abusers through a fictional story.So tired of this cope. What will playing videogames do for actual rape and abuse
victims?
No. 2627070
>>2627048>>2627057I know a woman personally who has been affected by the itch ban. She’s hopping mad that her rape themed game has been delisted and she feels like her income has been threatened. But she’s a hikki who’s never had sex and only writes rape hentai games because she’s a coomer fujoshi. I supported her when it was just about female freedom of expression, but it’s admittedly annoying now to watch a virgin complain about how rape games are actually important for the artistic milieu or whatever. Bitch you just want to jerk off, go jerk off somewhere else instead of acting like a tentacle rape simulator is deep just because a bishie is the
victim.
No. 2627093
>>2626838AYRT are you a schizo?
>>2626945It's a known fact that Zionist lobbies and the politicians that take their bribes love censorship of any narrative that opposes them. The Tik Tok ban had Zios rallying behind it as well. It's just noticing patterns. Do you also think JFK's head just did that?
>>2626977>>2626978>>2626980Of course Britbongs are cheering for this. Has your lineage living on the same island for hundreds of thousands years leading to eventual inbreeding cause your cognitive skills to decline?
>>2627057NTAYRT but frankly I don't give a fuck about what'll happen to them or helping them because I just wanna sit back and enjoy my yaoi rape games. Not everything has to be a political statement.
(infighting) No. 2627124
>>2627057AYRT, there
is a difference and you cannot compare the two. I was thinking of
>>2625968What you're talking about is another topic: whether or not it's ok to talk so much about women being raped/exploit the topic for entertainment (and I am also tired of it, by the way). We all know about it but that's not what I was talking about. I'm talking about the fact that women who weren't producing pornography but rather were explicitly criticizing it are also affected by a ban that was supposed to target actual porn. I'm talking about the fact that it wasn't Collective Shout's fault that this happened.
No, it doesn't do anything to save real
victims, I know. Can you tell me where I implied that I think fiction that criticizes sexual abuse equals activism? I don't believe it's activism, but I don't think these women should be censored, either. Should artists like Suzzan Blac be censored too, just because they are expressing their real emotions that happen to be related to sexual abuse?
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Does Collective Shout being anti any depictions of incest mean that brocon and any incest femgaze works are targeted? I'm convinced the only women cheering for this are tradcucks who were already pro-censorship to begin with and revile fujos and any other women who dare express themselves sexually, especially if it's in a way that isn't patriarchal faggotry like maledom.
>>2627132>rape victimKEK. No wonder you hate fujos, they can actually enjoy content with moids sexually without getting PTSD spasms every 10 seconds. Counselling will help a lot!
(fujosperging) No. 2627144
>>2627139Bleak. You really can't win with pro-censorship rape
victims. Everything taboo is bad, even if it's for women and the man is the object of attraction.
No. 2627145
>>2627135Where did I say I was a
victim of rape kek? That's just the headcanon you made up right now because you can't imagine a woman not obsessing over yaoi like you do. And no, I'm not a "tradcuck" either and I hate maledom obsesssed pick me retards. You're just crying because some trashy yaoi game you were obsessed with got removed.
No. 2627148
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>>2627124Rape shit just attracts porn addicts. It's almost impossible to make media where rape doesn't end up being glamorized somehow, because media itself is first and foremost for escapism and entertaintment. Unless the game or media ends up with the rapist being explicitly brutally murdered, it's just one more piece of media featuring torture porn.
>Should artists like Suzzan Blac be censored too, just because they are expressing their real emotions that happen to be related to sexual abuse?Yes, not everything needs to be made into a movie, game or art piece.
No. 2627154
>>2627145Implied it, if you aren't then that's even embarrassing. Just another asexual faggot who hates women having sexuality in the slightest, and for what? Combat your aliment instead of trying to bring women down with you.
>>2627150>thinking women can have porn addictions>thinks women liking two men buttfucking each other is anything to close to having a porn addictionYou sound like one of those pickme retards who thinks women reading erotica is the same as men masturbating to porn of women being raped and abused. Why are you against women having their own masturbation material so bad?
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>>2627124>Suzzan BlacThis is the shit you pro-porn retards are defending? Kek
No. 2627164
>>2627157Stop with the false equivalency of Chinese finger paintings of moid rape being the same as real porn. Also most NSFW games On Steam have an age verification process. Why No Mercy didn't? I don't know, I think that's weird and disgusting. Collective Shout should just stick with realistic rape games and even moid targeted slop in general instead of stuff for and by women.
>>2627161It's the bigger picture of so-called radfems celebrating women having their NSFW content removed. I don't even use Itch.io or Steam (for gooner content), but women deserve NSFW content for them as well. Either way, I don't see the issue with a woman being "addicted" to femgaze porn beyond wrongfully equating male porn addiction to female "porn addiction". Shit like this makes it so hard to be a radfem, so many of you just hate sexuality and want women to be asexual political lesbians.
No. 2627165
>>2627154>making fun of rape victims/using it as an insult Typical day on here
>>2627157This, kek
No. 2627250
Is setting up qtorrent too hard for some of you or something?
>>2627235That's literally 95% of their campaigns kek you fuckwit.
No. 2627318
>>2627312No but I was dumb and impulsive as shit at eighteen and you were too.
>>2627314Not forgiving the behavior of teen boys, just having a shred of compassion for the 20% of boys in this specific scenario who realized they were taken advantage of and filmed by an adult woman.
No. 2627330
>>2627318What are even the consequences for a boy, lmao? I really doubt anything that happens to girls/women after appearing in pornography would happen to them (unless it's gay pornography).
>>2627314It is so likely that this 20% wouldn't give a fuck about girls and look the other way (after masturbating), so i don't care either, kek
No. 2627339
>>2627331You've missed the rest of the discussion kek.
>Inb4 "ugh getting billboards taken down is nothing"You have to remember the
massive difference in size and influence between Collective Shout and porn companies. Baby steps is still movement.
No. 2627348
>>2627345If you chose to scroll up you would see that they
are calling lawmakers and punishing pimps and their financial backers. Guess it doesn't fit your narrative that Collective Shout is a bunch of old Christian ladies or whatever though kek
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>>2627252>>2627331Collective Shout's accomplishments within the past 5 years if you're intrigued. Turns out they've been campaigning for age verification for pornhub since as far back as 2019 but their government keeps blocking even that.
Also turns out Collective Shout actually get a lot of pedoshit shut down and removed (such as actual pedophiles and child sex doll accounts like picrel).
>https://www.collectiveshout.org/wins-and-highlights-2024>https://www.collectiveshout.org/wins_and_highlights_2023>https://www.collectiveshout.org/wins_and_highlights_2022>https://www.collectiveshout.org/wins_and_highlights_2021>https://www.collectiveshout.org/wins_and_highlights_2020Also here are all their campaign submissions for reference
>https://www.collectiveshout.org/submissions No. 2627385
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>>2627375
NTA but both those paintings are her (admittedly clumsy imo) critiques of the porn industry. Picrel is more her usual art which is based on her own experience.
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What female oriented non-rape non-incest games have gotten canceled over this craziness? Can anyone list some titles from steam or itch.io? I checked out all horny otome on steam I know of like picrel and they all seem fine? I just keep seeing redditard and twittard virtue signallers going MUH FREE SPEECH and making conspiracy theories about everything under the sun getting banned (90% of the time calling CS big bad puritan TERFs), and the only actual dirt they could manage to find about CS was misidentifying detroit human as a rape game. Am I missing something or is it just coomers being coomers?
No. 2627417
>>2627245Of course they only go after OF when the poor teen moids are being “exploited” by the evil OF whores. Pickme organization. Also
>18 year old boy>boyThese are grown ass men. The fact that it’s tagged with “sexualization of children” is even more comical.
>>2627399The issue is rape and incest femgaze games potentially being targeted. I don’t want vanillaslop to be the only thing allowed.
No. 2627422
>>2627419Why else would be they defending the welfare of the poor 18 year old “boys”? I bet you retards think men can get raped as well
>>2627420I care more about yaoi rape games being removed than sex trafficked women. Not my business. One of them directly affects me, the other doesn’t
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>>2627422>"PICKME PICKME PICKME">"Btw I care more about my yaoi games than sex trafficked women, sex trafficking is none of my business"Obvious bait is obvious.
No. 2627442
>>2627432How does caring about if the poor teenage boys are sexually exploited not make you a pickme? I’m not a politician or an activist, of course I’m going to care more about my yaoi.
>>2627437Since I’m not a moid, I really don’t care if a woman willingly chooses to have sex with barely legal scrotes or not
No. 2627454
>>2627440No you schizo. Also being glad yaoi is being censored is the opposite of being a fujo
>>2627444I care about what’s immediately important to me. Sex trafficked women are not important to me or my priorities. You sound like a zoomer who seethes when Palestine isn’t being talked about 24/7.
>>2627448I’m glad the billboard is gone, don’t get me wrong, but they rallied for its removal for the wrong reason. Teen boys can’t be “preyed on” by adult women. Wouldn’t be surprised if the new head of the organization is a boymom. I can’t believe Collective Shout is saying that some OF whore saying she likes fucking barely legal 18 year old men is harmful and predatory. Should go after the moids who seek out 18 year old girls instead.
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>>2627454Samefag, this is what they want you to feel bad about. Based stepmom
>>2627459They spent the entire article crying about how moids are getting taken advantage of before bringing up the real issue, which is the sexualization of schoolgirls and teachers.
No. 2627467
>>2627454>You sound like a zoomer who seethes when Palestine isn’t being talked about 24/7And
you sound like a Tumblrina who thinks that a company doing 1 thing you disagree with makes them evil kek
No. 2627472
>>2627467I don’t like that the company takes male rape “
victims” seriously, which will eventually lead to the removal of femgaze rape games where moids are the
victims. It’s a fatal flaw.
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>>2627440>I love yaoi>Also I don't need yaoiWhy are fauxjos everywhere, go away poser
No. 2627481
>>2627476Oh, you’re a pickme who thinks pubescent and post pubescent moids can get sexually abused. Average Collective Shout clit rider tbh. If you feel so bad for scrotes why don’t you rally with them to unban No Mercy from Steam? You love defending them
>>2627479More pickmes thinking female porn addiction is real. So called “radfems” saying porn addiction can happen to women and capping for male abuse “
victims”.
(bait) No. 2627488
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>>2627481It literally does not matter what you think kek, you're trying so embarrassingly hard to act like a based radfem manhater when you have ALREADY ADMITTED that you don't care about
real female rape
victims. Your opinion means zilch. You are a retard.
No. 2627510
>>2627499Visa and Mastercard requesting the content stop being sold would probably be the only issue, but I do hope there's more sites that pop up soon. I get it's easy for people, but I don't think majority of digital games should be sold on like three sites max.
>>2627503No, I must seethe and mald on lolcow dot farm.
>>2627504God I was wondering about that, I pirate my games and every now and then I'll see some insane shit like "Hentai Party" up for download. I thought they were homebrew because they looked so cheap lmao
No. 2627518
>>2627503I'm in a waiting room. I have already hit rock bottom as far as "boring use of time" goes.
>>2627490I genuinely think AO3 will be fine unless there's a ban on
all porn all over the internet, which is never going to happen.
No. 2627536
>>2627532All i asked was "do you anons really believe women can't develop porn addiction?" Because they most certainly can.
like the ones in this thread hellbent on defending their yaoi incest rape porn because its the only thing that gets them off anymoreI don't give a fuck about a normie woman reading junjo romantica or whatever it's 2025 equivalent is.
No. 2627538
>>2627500>>2627513Yes but there's going to be a legitimate workaround where you'll be able to pay the developers directly at some point, and if you're desperately yearning for Room No.9 and can't get it during that interim DDL and torrent are your best friends.
The banning of VPNs is possible and a viable concern, however there's enough incentive to ban pirating already and they still can't do that properly. Even in my privacy free hell hole they can't.
No. 2627539
>>2627532Imo if you're consuming erotic content of any kind
and you're also addicted to it, well yeah, you're a porn addict lol
No. 2627547
>>2627536>hellbent Nta but you need to go outside if you think arguing on lolcow is being "hellbent on defending".
Unless Collective Shout is in the thread, then theyre just as hellbent as the nona in a waiting room.
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>>2627547>theyre just as hellbent as the nona in a waiting room.Oh come on all I did was be optimistic about AO3
No. 2627563
>>2627537Imo media companies like Disney would probably love it if they could ban A03 that disgraces their properties and pirating which take cuts form their profits. As technology and AI evolve, media conglomerates like Disney and Google will do what they can to make it so that "fanstuff" has them involved, giving them money. They already do what they can to make being Disney into a lifestyle.
They'll just stamp the same "if you're against this then then you're a rape porn addict that wants children to be unsafe" label on it.
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>>2627548>>2627530>>2627490Fret not, derailanons, collective shout doesn't give one single fuck about yaoi or ao3.
Proof of what they have actually been focusing on for the past 5 years has already been mentioned in the thread.
>>2627354 No. 2627586
>>2627571I think you're severely overestimating how often women masturbate to erotica.
The women who end up being fucked up coomers watch irl porn can get off to harmful shit like misogyny kinks.
No. 2627590
>>2627578I mean you mentioned the site. There ARE threads on self improvement on the
site.
No. 2627592
>>2627584Exactly this.
>>2627582Thank you for clearing that up, anon.
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>>2627580Literally picrel
No. 2627634
Why is the major focus of this censorship in this thread just about yaoi? We clearly see that most of the games getting name dropped or removed have not at all been yaoi. I highly doubt they're targeting things for being gay when their main focus as a group is targeting material that features female abuse. And seeing their track record, I don't know why anyone is jumping through hoops to think that they will target a fanfiction website that they have not once mentioned, nor even show that they are aware exists. Why does everything always go back to yaoi discussion itt?
>>2627621Until one exists, or until you can name a single one, then it doesn't matter and you're just scaring yourself.
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>>2627634Someone's just trying to run a psyop in this thread thinking they can get to women to turn against Collective Shout if they make themselves seem totally relatable by talking about yaoi and fujo rights.
No. 2627653
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Pornographers will have to be forced to create real art if they can’t profit from coomslop. If you really think your unity asset rape incest VNs are “art” and have some profound message the needs to be shared with the public, then you’d make them for free. Porno creations would have to be made as passion projects.
This weeds out 95% of coomslop made just to collect coin from retarded horny scrotes. The remaining 5% will be art, along with some hyper specific fetish fixation content made by rich neet paraphiliacs who draw inflating knee vore through the sheer power of autistic commitment alone. I’m ok with this outcome.
This affects my life very little. Most of the erotic content created by women is done so out of passion, drawing sexy bishonen men and yaoi isn’t very profitable. All the girls who do it aren’t making bank, they just love drawing their sexy little skrunkos.
The way I see it, porn art and porn artists will be less compulsive and shallow. If you can’t open a restaurant just to serve microwaved beans and defrosted patties, the only people who will want to pioneer a food establishment are going to be passionate chefs and hyper autists who need their hyper specific samefood menus.
On top of that, we have generative AI now. The moids who just want to jackoff to shiny flesh spheres can make thousands of slop pictures/videos to sate their “needs”. Coomslop “artists” are increasingly becoming a redundant and irrelevant.
When AI can do your job more efficiently with the same results, and the avenue for you to profit from creating coomslop is all but dried up, what’s left? Probably just databases of cheap & infinite pictures of AI oily anime girls, and real artists who are specialized enough to gather a fanbase.
This is a good thing. Become a real artist or flounder. The only people who will thrive are husbandofags and gay furries. Default male sexuality is not going to be marketable to artists. It demands infinite oily spheres of low quality and increasing degeneracy. Generative AI and payment processors defunding degeneracy will kill the moid coomslop artist.
Only a retard wouldn’t celebrate.
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I used to wonder why I don't participate in this thread as much as I used to. Reading the comments upthread, I think I understand why
No. 2627670
>>2627662This. It's been like 3 days of autistic meltdown on a topic that has zero consequences for us, BL consoomers and content creators. Can we move on and make fun of trannies and gendies again?
>>2627653Based Vergilposter. So eloquently put.
No. 2627675
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>>2627594>>2627614Ayrt I actually did search up "fanfiction" and "homoerotic books" etc but all I could find was Australian Border Force blocking imports of underage hentai for sale in Australia specifically due to laws already in place:
>Japanese law exempts manga and anime from exploitation laws because the images do not depict real children, but in Australia the production, possession and distribution of abuse material depicting a representation of a person who appears to be under 18 is illegal.https://www.collectiveshout.org/australian_border_force_hentaiAs for fanfiction it was moid fanfic revolving around "daddy issues" and a moid grooming an 11 year old girl on Spotify. So yaoi and ao3 is untouched once again.
>>2627621Nayrt but AO3 actually uses its donation money to put towards legal protections for its creators. That's actually AO3's origin story and how the site came into existence. It's a transformative works site that defends itself with the law by consulting lawyers that help them write the TOS. For example they apply the "Illegal? Just don't read lol." rule to their works.
>What does it mean for AO3's Terms of Service (TOS) to be governed by the laws of New York? What if I am a resident of a different state or country?>AO3 operates under the jurisdiction of Manhattan, New York in the United States. As such, the interactions between AO3 and its users, as well as the definitions in the TOS, will comply with U.S. legislative interpretations. If you reside in a different state or country, it is your responsibility – not AO3's – to know about and follow the laws in your local jurisdiction. For example, if certain content on AO3 is restricted under your local laws, it is not AO3's duty to delete that content for you; instead, it is your responsibility to avoid accessing that content.https://archiveofourown.org/tos_faq#ny_law No. 2627683
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>>2627653Why do I feel like Dante is holding those binoculars backwards?
No. 2627736
>>2627690This, its not like this is something new. Movies had an era of being basically porn under the label of horror/thriller/being real.
Exploitation movies exploited people.
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>>2625975>>2626020>>2627048>>2627124>>2627523Have any of you faggots actually played this game? I don't really give a shit about women being censored when on paper they're creating something that's almost indistinguishable from a scrote who thinks he's being subversive and artistic.
>inb4 acksually it's satire and criticizing misogynyThe real slippery slope you should be paying attention to is the "making fun of/criticizing/depicting a realistic picture of misogyny" to just blatantly creating and doing misogynistic imagery.
No. 2627784
>>2627658Yes. The Internet is a social platform, it functions as both an environment and as a collective. It is subject to change, and will adapt to new conditions, including conditions it manifests for itself.
Male sexuality has gone uncontested for a very long time. It has become so bloated to the point it is beginning to collapse under its own weight, at least as far as “content creators” (those who can profit from it) are concerned. Even if payment processors weren’t kicking at its heels, the male coom market cannot remain a stagnant monolith. Not with generative AI and other low-effort products to saturate the market with. Not with economic disincentives to create more vile content, not with female audiences increasingly becoming a factor to contend with.
I see the writing on the wall. I see r34 sites pumped to the brim with low-effort indistinguishable iterative ai coomslop. I see upstart coom artists drawing the same “sexy woman standing there, maybe some floating cocks orbiting her vicinity” hand over fist. You have to be exceptionally talented, or in some way unique, to make a living for yourself. One form of uniqueness is creating more degenerate content, i.e, incest/rape/gore/scat/etc. Payment processors are further nipping that niche in the bud, and accelerating the process of gutting and polarizing the coomslop market. Men should find a way to make their coom content unique and NOT disgusting/borderline illegal, least they fall into the endless abyss of AI coomslop and cheaply slapped together incest rape simulators.
To all of the nonnas panicking over defunding the yaoi industry, I have to ask, when was it ever “funded” in the first place? A man making a delisted baby rape simulator is economically/socially no different than a fujo obsessively making shonen ship art on her priv alt. That’s where the majority of this content comes from, in the west at least. Western fujos are not bolstering the eastern yaoi doujin industry either, even if they wanted to. Most female gaze/yaoi already fits the criteria of being exempt from everything I’ve discussed. Actually, now that baby rape sims are all but forced into the backwater alleyways of social media, fujoshis should be more bold. They already hardly make any money, and now they can post their cringe ships with with even more impunity.
Fujoshis never said they’d stop creating yaoi if they didn’t get paid for it, never panicked over the yaoi industry collapsing or the end of western social values disintegrating because they don’t get paid for making yaoi. Men say this about coomslop. If they are telling the truth, rejoice, since apparently they’ll find something else to do if they cant get rich from incest rape porn. If they are lying, just stop responding to them, they’re just having another mantrum and want a captive audience.
Btw, I’m speaking in generalizations. Some fujos make a living with yaoi. Most don’t. The yaoi market in general is less profitable than the moid coom market if we’re looking at them as a whole.
I am selfish and want more than just negative reinforcement for my opposition. I would like positive reinforcement for my own interests. I can’t see into the future, but the prognosis is becoming less bleak. I won’t list examples, but anyone with a keen eye will notice female sexuality becoming a contender in the public sphere. I have seen things created now that would never have existed even a few years ago. The market for male coomslop will always exist, men will always be horny, but they can’t pretend like female input is irrelevant or invisible forever. They also cannot pump out massive amounts of low quality slop and think they can thrive in the environment they themselves created.
>>2627690Rationalizing coomslop as art is a thing men do and have always done to spare themselves from critique and embarrassment in their social spheres. It’s not just Hollywood, they do this everywhere. Most are not bold enough to argue incest rape VNs are high art, but if they could, they would. Some still do. Most consumers are not watching these movies assuming anything more than the obvious, despite what the creators suggest. Even the men arguing to its merit do so cynically. It’s a big lie and everyone either knows they are lying, or isn’t even aware they’re being lied to, they just consume product as it is presented with no nerd emoji disclaimers involved.
Legacy media is going to be some of the last affected by this sort of social change. This is happening first with indie and “nerd” media, where the most content is being made by “lesser” people, less insulated and more subject to burgeoning social developments. Billionaire producers, directors, and actors aren’t subject to the same environment as indie devs and graphic artists with a commission sheet and patreons.
Even so, there are movies and television series being created today that better fit the criteria. Not a lot, but they do exist.
Thirdly, as a nonna already said above, “artful” chattering among billionaires is more frivolous now than ever. Most people, especially young people, care more about involved Internet discourse than they do rich people giving meaningless awards and accolades to other rich people.
>>2627683>>2627721Dante is smart and looks inward for strength and answers to life’s most pressing questions. That’s why he’s the main character.
No. 2627786
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>>2627769>I don't really give a shit about women being censoredYeah, we know.
That wasn't a game CS was after and don't pretend that game is on the same level of degeneracy as moidslop like this.
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>>2627865>>2627868You’re right, I don’t have eyes. In the context of photos of real women, it makes sense this got caught in the crossfire because CS aren’t gamers and saw this and immediately assumed it’s moidslop rather than progressive subversive woman slop. Not that it’s a good thing Steam wiped her game with no remorse of course, but it wasn’t adding up until “simulated kidnapping photos” joined the convo kek
No. 2627989
>>2627868I’m tired of coomslop but I am equally as fatigued with art that presents itself as deep commentary on female sexual exploitation, even when it’s made by women.
I would like more media created by women for women to just enjoy, not just some plea to have the public recognize their struggles, and for women to be humanized through depictions of their suffering. It rarely works. It’s often just torture porn consumed by an audience that lacks the moral foundation to even recognize what it is in the first place. It’s pointless and depressing.
Countless women are tortured, raped, and enslaved in real life. We have the majority of human history to look back on that tells the same story. There’s enough horrid material to ponder over if you have the mind to ponder it. This doesn’t make men any more sympathetic to women. Men have proven consistently they can live in the midst of the worst kinds of female suffering and pay no heed to it, in fact, the majority of them thrive in these conditions. You can’t plea to their humanity if they refuse to recognize it outright. Torture porn that posits to ask “deep, introspective questions” to its audience doesn’t work. At best, it’s just a self-indulgent wankfest for its female audience, and a quirky little story for men to half-absorb and forget the moment they start doing something else. At worst, it it’s just reliving trauma for women that will never be resolved, and for the men, filed away as more degenerate spank material and/or an affirmation for his misogynistic beliefs.
It’s not as bad as the explinations given by the BDSM and kink community but it serves the same purpose. I do not want to wallow in suffering to no end. If these women want to make a scathing commentary on the female experience, they’d be better off writing a damn manifesto about it. Something honest and straightforward, something men can’t easily masturbate to.
No. 2628067
>>2627835It's just a rendering program. People can make horrendous fetish slop, or cute wholesome stuff and everything in between.
It's sorta funny how a lot of the official forums is just old grannies and grampas.
No. 2628156
>>2628135Nta by that logic might as well start making media about detailed rape, for the sake of media, who cares if scrotes jerk off to it they jerk off to anything. Woman getting money by being brutalised on camera? Who cares, they get off to anything anyway, it’s not promoting it, they’d just find something else to get off to, right?
Where do you draw the line?
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I have seen through the anti-censorship sophist arguments, made by people who really just want to get off to degenerate porn and simply can't admit that.
ohhhh, they're censoring free speech, creativity,imposing on our rights! Australian
terf hags!
what about all the women who don't have rights and are having it taken away by actual schizophrenic troons?
what about the rights of girls, our right to grow up not being seen as sex objects to be groomed by adult men?
>>2627786and nothing of value was lost. A small price to pay for salvation
No. 2628288
>>2626165agreed. I don’t have any interest whatsoever
in porn games and have never even used steam or itch.io (torrenting4lyfe) but I’m still extremely pro freedom of speech. at least none of these shit games are actually being deleted from peoples libraries I guess? typically when sites do this alternative sites will start to rise in popularity so as long it’s not a legal ban people will move on.
gooner tears are funny though I will admit even if I still don’t like censorshipfags>>2628194black and white thinking
No. 2628374
>>2628340This. It doesn't matter what your intentions were. What the message is "supposed" to be. The same people get off to it for the same reasons.
Conservative incel moids were giving kudos to the "kweer""poly" fics the libfems/tifs wrote in my fandom because it aroused them for the exact same reasons as any other harem fic written by another moid. It fulfills the same fantasy. If it is indistinguishable, it does not matter if you were b-but going for a progressive angle! The moids do not care what your angle was. If there is no real difference, you failed. You aren't putting moids off at all. They're filing it with the rest of their porn.
No. 2628388
>>2628351Collective Shout will be the scapegoat regardless because people hate women more than anything else.
>None of the people arguing about free speech even care about it in the first place. All of these people are upset because they want their porno material to stay up.Indeed, but they will try very, very hard to obfuscate that and pretend otherwise. They cannot be honest. If people were truly all about free speech, they should be campaigning against the very concept of cancel culture rather than engaging in it the moment someone is too much of a feminist for their liking or disagrees with gender ideology.
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Honestly the fake talk I've seen on the internet about "women deserve to tell their stories about raep!!1! And that's why we should not ban rape games." just brings back unwanted memories of how moids subjected me to sexual abuse throughout my teenage years, and as a result I have never desired to play a game where the female character has rape as a backstory.
Every time it happens I just stop playing. I never have faith that anyone can pull it off, so I don't even bother. With games like "Vile Exhumed" it just proves how even ~horror~ games just fall into "boys plz like me, I am into the same degenerate porn you watch too, isn't that cool? Am I cool?" Instead of making actual games for women with real critique on abuse.
There's no subtlety. It's just so blatantly glorified for titillation. I can tell she only made a big deal about getting her game delisted (despite it still being up) to garner moid attention. It feels like such a betrayal when women like this will market themselves as "for women" while not standing for women at all. The trailer made me feel sick because the images just remind me of the type of shit I was shown as a kid to scare me. She's never experienced that otherwise she'd do it with more seriousness. To me she comes across as a pickme poser who cares more about gooner moid attention than what actual female survivors have gone through, otherwise she would have switched up how the story was presented after feedback during play testing.
>>2628374>If there is no real difference, you failed. You aren't putting moids off at all. They're filing it with the rest of their porn.Nta but you took the words right out my mouth.
No. 2628407
>>2628392I completely agree nona. I absolutely loathe the mainstream pornbrain narrative that ‘akshually women LOVE retraumatizing themselves, they find it cathartic and feel control again over their sexuality when enacting the most traumatic sexual experiences of their lives!’.
Like fuck no. Most people I know with sexual trauma would start having a panic attack at the very idea of reenacting what happened to them.
We need to end the idea that complete sexual permissiveness and willing self retraumatization is what most traumatized women desire. I blame the loud vocal minority of bpdchan pickmes who often invent completely fabricated abuse stories anyway and then use it as a way to reel in perverted moids. I know girls like this who invented incest and CSA backstories for themselves and then fetishized it as a way to attract degenerate moids. Meanwhile the women I know who’ve actually been through that shit never want to revisit the topic again. Especially not framed in a titillating porngame scenario.
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>>2627910>I can’t fap to images of women’s torsos cut open and bound and gagged crying women with blood all over their faces???>WTF THIS IS LITERALLY 1984! NAZISM! CENSORSHIP! MEDIEVAL EUROPE CHRISTIAN FASCISM! Reminder that no matter how much you hate men, it’s never enough.
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>>2628416And that right there is exactly why I don't care anymore
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>>2628416Is the dev a troon by any chance? That AGP smirk and shitty hair. If not a troon then you just know this bitch would be the type of pickme to offer up her infant daughter sexually to the lead singer of some dogshit poser metal band.
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>>2628429I’m gonna say it’s a troon until proven otherwise. I actually thought the narrator’s voice in the ad was a man pretending to be a woman too. Had that nasal valley girl tranny tone.
No. 2628474
>>2628438Being a female artist in a moid industry is transgressive in itself, but this doesn’t mean I’m going to support pickmes glamorizing and profiting off of female sexual trauma.
I will pick Artemisia Gentileschi over Frida Kahlo every time. The latter does not represent me or any brand of feminism I agree with. There were women philosophers accepted into the pantheon back in the day, and they were all mirroring their male peers. I shouldn’t be expected to pedestalize these women for being the token female mouthpieces that moids tolerate in their spaces.
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Troon alert
No. 2628479
>>2628451whats the thing with this:
>I did research into it and it has ties to that fucking pedo forum All The Fallen and found out it's just a way for moids to masturbate to a mindbroken raped loli. I am not in the goonerverse at all so im curious as to what the deal with this is?
Never heard about this (Although Ive heard about the game), so im kind of curious. I didnt know there was a big controversy around that game?
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>>2628478I think she's just a porn rotted bpdchan who thinks tranny "culture" is amazing.
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>>2628478The hands look female to me, think she’s just ugly.
No. 2628517
>>2628392the only games that didn't instantly
trigger me and made me close the window when explaining/implying female CSA/SA were Yume Nikki and LISA, and the last one was made by a scrote. both emphasize on the mental anguish the
victims had too, instead of fetishizing it again
No. 2628524
>>2628416I don’t buy that these men care about censorship. I know a few years ago there was a stink about racist games being delisted on steam. The only men who were in uproar about the implications of censorship and “muh slippery slopes, muh free speech” were actual racists. The outcry from moids across the political spectrum defending rape games just tells me that moids are sympathetic to rapists. All of this happens while these same men demand that the Tea app be delisted for its ethical implications, free speech be damned. This is not about free speech at all.
All I know is that men fight for their own interests every time, every time they talk about morals and society, I know it’s just a way for them to argue for what’s best for them while trying to sound like that’s not exactly what they’re doing.
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She's a woman
No. 2628545
>>2628520Don't bother. Even if you're in favor of getting rid of misogynistic content off storefronts that children use, you're still in the wrong wanting mature content for women.
>>2628534There's an obvious answer but that's still wrong apparently.
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>>2628520Is it that hard to imagine? Just think if virtually all hetero anime porn was focused on male bodies on display being assaulted by floating vaginas. We can start there.
No. 2628580
>>2628576I think
>>2628563 was being sarcastic
No. 2628582
>>2628126>>2628520>>2628525>>2628541>>2628542>>2628545No one here wants yaoi or female pandering games to be banned or censored, nonas just want obvious torture rape porn like
>>2627910 rightfully banned and censored. I know you're traumatized after countless infights but no one wants fujos to be persecuted.
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>>2628561What if instead "uuuu raped woman exploited woman
victim woman" game we had an aileen wuornos simulator where we determined whether the John was hostile and we had to kill him and steal his shit and make sure the cops dont get us so we can rack up a high score.
Title in pic rel
No. 2628588
>>2628562>You can have mature themes without ever centring on rape and gore material.I'm absolutely for that but that's not what
>>2627910 is
No. 2628593
>>2628590no it has to be like a choose your own adventure game. It can have a simple interface where you get a minimal amount of information from your john (like you can ask him up to 3 questions) and you have to determine if he is hostile.
If you don't kill a hostile john its game over, but if you kill too many non hostile johns and you dont have a high score (kill count) you have a higher likelihood of getting arrested.
It's a better ending in theory to just kill all the scrotes u can, but your score won't be as based.
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>>2628479Seems Vrel's got his own ED page. And ATF really is a loli/shota forum with focus on lolicon.
I was going to post the screenshot of the google search results that show ATF hosting their own DoL mods but the favicon is a loli's vagina.
>https://www.edramatica.com/Degrees_of_Lewdity>https://edramatica.com/AllTheFallen.ninja No. 2628607
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Why is there so much confusion in this thread? No one gives a shit if you like bishie rape simulator 1000 or moids jacking off to Pokemon. The criticism is about violent misery porn where women are abused.
No. 2628616
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>>2628574I have to live in a vacuum to express heterosexuality? Men did not invent sexual objectification, they just had a monopoly over our culture for the past millennia and insisted their perspective was the universal one. I have more in common with a female bird of paradise then I do with a scrot jerking off to loli rape hentai.
Deprogram the male interpretation of reality from your mind. Wanting to have sex with hot men shouldn’t be maligned as just a direct inversion of male sexuality.
No. 2628637
>>2628392I want to make a male horror game that tackles their sexual trauma. I would just bombard them with images of sexy Chads having consenting relationships with attractive women like fnaf jumpscares, while the male MC is terrorized by grotesque female monsters that make him pay for dates with no sex afterwards. It would be like a resident evil style fixed camera game. Instead of getting killed or raped, the monsters would just pick his pocket for money and buy hot chips. When he’s all out of money the game over screen is just a tombstone with “here lies (player name), he never scored”.
Wouldn’t it be amazing if most of the horror genre that features male protagonists was just this? A girl could dream.
No. 2628680
>>2628663The stuff I actually want to see being made isn’t effected by the policies being implemented by these payment processors. I actually don’t have to accept any of this bullshit. You can make games that are insightful and respectful towards women without being caught up in a porn defunding initiative, in fact, this should be the standard.
If pickmes and coomer men have such important stories to tell, they’ll continue to tell them without profit incentives. It’s not like they are being banned from creating anything, they just won’t be paid to sell porn games any longer.
I tolerate the existence of a minority of people catching debatably unwarranted strays if it means an even more pressing issue is solved. I would also be fine with a more liberal approach to locking up rapists, even if it means a few “innocent” men are caught in the crosshairs. The damage done to society allowing the worst perpetrators to act with impunity is not worth sparing a minority of perpetrators who aren’t as bad. I’d rather have 99% of rapists and 1% of those falsely accused to be imprisoned than let the 99% to walk free in order to spare the 1%. The pain and harm inflicted on so many innocent women is worth it to me. I care more about them.
No. 2628688
>>2628607Let me try to explain this…
Company lazy, company has to censor games, policy is vague and leaves it up to company, company will just censor whatever it feels like will make things go away, why would company give a fuck about the difference between male gaze and female gaze? People worry over policies being vague.
Does this make sense to you?
No. 2628699
>>2628680I just think it should be illegal to be male.
Males should have to pass constant rigorous tests of woman respect and subservience from the time they are born. If they slip up in the slightest, then we put them in the mines.
No. 2628720
>>2628714>female gaze isnt icky or needs to be illegal>but you need to learn to live without itJust say you think women shouldn't desire for sex already, its stupid to try to hide it like this.
You don't want porn period, you dont want women to have access to it. "I'm not saying it should still be illegal BUT" is just lying about your intentions. I'm tired of these antis pretending not to to be antis in this fucking thread, its obnoxious.
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Nonas is my 2000+ page sonadow yaoi erp illegal or no?
No. 2628730
>>2628724>>2628726Read what its replying to
>>2628714>female gaze porn isn't some icky horrible sin that needs to be illegal>illegalThat being said, considering its this difficult to understand why others wouldn't immediately suck company policy cock because good intentions then maybe it makes sense.
No. 2628732
>>2628720Did you even read the rest of my post? i don't think porn aimed at women should be taken away but no you don't need porn to live and no one should have easy access to it. Like i said every bishie rape game there are a 1000 others consisting of lolis, incest and rape (against women) so no i don't care if some of the non violent porn gets caught in the crossfire. Collective Shout isn't perfect but it's something. What alternatives do you propose? Or do you think that
>>2627786 should be left up?
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>>2628720Nta but I hope all porn you like gets NUKED from the internet and you are forced to get off this imageboard and find a submissive boyfriend who lets you fuck him in the ass just to get your daily fix of femdom female seme simulator 3000.
No. 2628739
>>2628732Your post answered this post
>>2628688 which is explaining how people can be rightfully cautious about policies with "just live without porn lol"
Being cautious does not mean "so you want rape games?!", it means you shouldn't be acting like those that are worried are retarded porn addicts, which you clearly are if the only thing you seem to reply with is "so you cant live without porn".
No. 2628752
>>2628751So you avoid the point again and bring up women getting raped.
At this point, that must count as exploitation.
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sage for venty blogpost but I cannot stand people who're political in how they handle fandomshit and take fandomshit too seriously. My brother is the worst example of this. I've recently gotten into Deltarune and I love Krusie, but he always feels the need to ride my goddamn ass over how I shouldn't depict/see Kris as a woman because she's nonbinary or whatever or that I'm erasing her nonbinary identity or someshit when I mention anything related to Krusie or Kris herself. I don't just see this with my brother, but with fans online. Who the hell thinks that fictional characters have rights that need to be respected?
No. 2628763
>>2628688Most women already make female gaze content without having an audience to support them financially. The only thing this will do is put degen moids in the same position as fujos. They’ll live.
Female gaze content never even got off the ground, idk why there is this assumption there is going to be some fujo renaissance so long we continue to allow moids to make make money off of rape porn. Deincentivizing men from making rape porn will even the playing field, if it were to effect fujoshi at all.
Every time similar events happen there’s always this scrambling to give amnesty to disgusting men, with implication some gooner paradise will serve as a fertile ground for female expression to blossom. The only thing that ever happens is men flooding the scene with content that scares women off.
You can look at what happened to comiket and Japanese fujoshi when men deliberately collaborated to flood the market with loli porn. The result was women getting bullied and scared off of a platform they once had a firm grasp on. Unchecked male degeneracy only stifles female expression.
If you isolate the variable free expression and nothing else, it doesn’t paint a clear picture of reality.
It is easier for women to create in an environment where they aren’t bombarded with the depths of male depravity constantly. Most women want to make tasteful coom art, the kind of art that doesn’t include morally abhorrent depictions of sex. Female gaze erotica generally falls in line with what most people consider amoral, the type of pornography not being delisted by these payment processors.
Men can still draw sexy naked women having non-
problematic sex and get paid using most major payment processors. Equating loli incest rape gore porn and “female gaze” art is just flat incorrect. You can draw a woman with her tits out and get paid still, you can draw yaoi men with their dicks out and still get paid. Most women are not drawing yaoi men goring and raping children.
>>2628720I’m perfectly fine with women being unable to make money through depictions of abhorrent sex acts. You should be able to express your sexuality without needing to see shotas/lolis getting incest raped. No one is coming after pornography in general. Payment processors have been perfectly fine supporting the sex industry all this time, vanilla porn isn’t under threat, and if you think it ever will be, you don’t know anything.
>>2628728I’m sure when the production of real child pornography was legal in many countries, moids used the same arguments in its favor. Yet somehow we have legally banned the production of CSAM and it never crashed the entire industry. Men will panic over anything that takes even 1 orgasm opportunity away from them. You’d be a fool to take any of their doomsday schizo rants seriously.
>>2628732Men will never illegalize pornography as a whole. If they can still draw sexy anime women and not be imprisoned for it, fujoshi are fine.
No. 2628770
>>2628765I said "people have the right to be cautious about policies", you taking that as "you're so porn addicted you see misogynistic shit get taken off shelves as a negative" is so dishonest its genuinely disgusting.
You have this sense of porn so stuck in your brain that people could sell you a pile of shit of they added a "will stop rape" sticker onto it.
No. 2628771
>>2628371And they draw the characters with titchop scars and ship them with each other KEK. Zoomers are so interesting
>>2628756Nonna no offense is your 'brother' a TIF? I don't know a single man that actually gives a shit about Kris' gender.
This is why Suselle is better, you don't have to deal with (as many) angry trannies KEK No. 2628775
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>>2628745only if its this picture
No. 2628783
>>2628774What evidence am I basing my assumption that the CENSORSHIP BAN is going to CENSOR and its worth being cautious? Experience ig.
>>2628778Personally, at least force companies to be more transparent with how they're going about things, force them to give official lists on what exact titles they're banning and the reasons for why theyre doing so.
No. 2628784
>>2628764I kid you not, the only thing he talks about is
>talking about writing, drawing, getting a job etc. instead of actually doing those things and making passive aggressive comments about how I can write and draw well and how I've been able to score a job and job interviews despite having less education than him.>fandom political shit like not they/themming characters, ace erasure or how women who like high-school bishies are the exact same as moids who want to fuck baby peach>gay moid culture>LGBTQ politics like kink at pride or trannies >worrying himself sick and sharing about the latest shit in politics because he spends his time glued to the computer 24/7 on bsky>doctor videos from tiktok or twitter so he has a reason to be a hypochondriac over tiny things he once made my mother take him to urgent care late at night because his balls felt funny and he was worried that he had ball cancer or a testical torsion or some shit ON HER GODDAMN BIRTHDAYIronically despite being so liberal that it hurts he's done shit like outing me to my mother
not even referring to me as a lesbian but ""qweer"", gets upset when I point out the issues with porn culture, or make implied jokes about how lesbians don't do dick. I love him, but holy shit he can be annoying.
>>2628771No, he's just a really faggy liberal moid. He would fit right in Portland or California.
But I don't like Suselle, Krusie is cuter and more relatable to me. No. 2628791
>>2628765I’ve read the list of what these payment processors are blacklistimg. No sane person should feel under threat. Women can still have their yaois. You just can’t send your credit card info to fujoshis who are making incest rape scat gore yaoi. I doubt most of them were doing that in the first place.
>>2628770Any and every policy has the potential to be implemented in such a way where it arguably shouldn’t be. I am not in favor of legalizing crimes because there are specific cases where criminal acts are justifiable.
>>2628772MLP is a good example. No female pony fans were inspired to be more creative as degenerate coomer moids flooded their fandom with their degenerate coomer garbage. Not enough of them, at least. The female fans willing to stick around just mirrored their degen moid counterparts. What they created was not an authentic representation of female creativity, but a handful of pickmes mirroring moid degeneracy to fit in to an unfriendly environment. Most women and girls were scared off, if not by the content itself, but the cantankerous moids who targeted and harassed them for encroaching on their newly colonized space. More girls were prevented from expressing themselves, not given a free platform to create whatever they wanted.
No. 2628795
>>2628785I accidentally spaced the "hurts" and "he's" wrong, he's not a TIF
but I can genuinely see him going nonbinary or even going full TIM at some point with how hard he capes for trannies. I honestly don't even think he's gay, it all seems performative in the sense and he says he would fuck a TIF but gets upset that I would when I mentioned that some TIFs look like cute butches before they take T and I'd fuck one for a one night stand and I will never and can't find TIMs attractive. Literally, the basis for all of his attraction to men is gay furry porn he looked at from a young age to now.
No. 2628797
>>2628791Nonna i'm
>>2628765 i'm on the same side as you kek
No. 2628804
>>2628781You presume these companies are inevitably going to ban all pornography. Why? Your argument only holds up assuming your doomsday scenario inevitably takes place.
In my experience, giving men carte blanche to record, depict, and express every malicious interest they want only ever results in women being exploited and female creatives being shut down or scared off.
The major deterrent for women is not exercised through legal or financial means, but social ones. Most women don’t fear poverty or imprisonment when expressing themselves, they feel unwelcome, and afraid of emboldened men harassing them.
>>2628797Sorry I either misread or misquoted, I’m too lazy to reread the convo and figure it out.
No. 2628806
>>2628804Nonna…
>>2628781 also is arguing the same points as you are…
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>>2628637Kek
nonnie this sounds beautiful
>>2628616>>2628574Other than one possibly fundie nona calling even a single portrait of a hot man goonershit
>>2628561, nonnas aren't complaining simply about the heterosexual aspect. Most women are simply disgusted by rape and pedophilia in fiction even if lolishit is replaced by shotashit and old bastard rape on big boob teenage girl is replaced with old bastard rape on teenage twink. Anons who must have those sort of kinks to "express their sexuality" just have to accept that they are not going to have the average otome/shoujo smut enjoyer cape for their shit even if those women like casually sexualizing men like picrel. Trying to gaslight other women that they need to support everything just because of shared biological sex is simply not going to work.
No. 2628847
>>2628837alternately or in addition you could also provider links to sex education or guides about safe sex.
A lot of people are ignorant about that stuff.
No. 2628855
>>2628846It’s not an issue of censorship, it’s a cybersecurity issue. Not even the lolicon scrotes are saying this has anything to do with censorship, since none of this content is being banned, just behind additional security measures. It’s a government policy that could lead to private data breeches that would leak extremely sensitive PII.
They are the similar in that both are argued as measures to protect children from being exposed to harmful content, but are very different in practice. It’s like sex shops IDing people at the door vs trying to buy a dvd called “raping my futa loli daughter to death” in the store and your card being declined.
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>>2627784>Dante is smart and looks inward for strength and answers to life’s most pressing questions. That’s why he’s the main character.KEK. As a Dante-fan, thank you.
No. 2628873
>>2628851I dont see how theyd have an issue with links to sex education being put in porn games.
am im thinking to highly of people?
No. 2628879
>>2628877yes, its silly, but i think its better than doing nothing.
The least one can do is tell the people consuming "rape your mom simulator":
>Dont rape your mom in real life. No. 2628891
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> you can't get rid of the degen moid shit, it might lead to xyz being taken out with it
At this point I'm ready for the goonercide for the annoying faggotry in this thread alone.
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>>2628879Tangential but I literally just found a VN where the true ending is basically "don't project your hatred from moid loneliness onto women" (only after you read about the protagonist kidnapping and raping her). Moids rate this shit 10/10.
No. 2628907
>>2628894>spend hours jerking off to the rape, torture, and murder of a woman>I learned a lesson today. Remembering how I raped, tortured, and killed that woman affects my mental health too sometimes. Plus it sucks that she winds up dead or not fun to be around anymore.>But it’s all ok. In the true ending she would have fucked me consensually anyways.>(never thinks about how the woman suffers as an individual, never has to confront the idea that he could ever be rejected, that he would have to accept it and move on)This is the maximum amount of empathy you will get from moids who create and consume media revolving around female suffering. Feeling bummed out their shiny new rape toy got used up before it could fill the void in his soul. Comforting themselves over the idea the woman would have let him use her even if he didn’t resort to rape.
Every time I see men try to tackle the subject of female suffering it just ends up being something like this. They’re so wrapped up in their own egos and coom compulsions they just can’t think about anything else.
I’d love to see a game where the female mc falsely accuses and divorce rapes a man into despair and ends the story with a monologue about how seeing him suffer really bummed her out, but at least she learned to not do it again maybe. In the true end he says he would have given her unlimited access to his bank account anyways.
No. 2628919
>>2628763But "you can still make normal porn" that's not enough for people, though. They are too far gone. They apparently
need to go for the most immoral, the most underage. My experience with the Zelda fandom was proof of that. It didn't matter if I agreed with the pick mes on their normal coom material, the moment I went against them deciding to start sexualizing the youngest female character in the game, or turning it into a harem, I was their enemy.
As a friend told me "there are no "good gooners" with limits". Normalcy becomes "boring" to them and they seek out worse and worse things. They'll even say so themselves.
No. 2628929
>>2628923I thought it was a moid issue. But apparently libfem women literally will A) create that same fucked up content themselves, for loser moid attention or otherwise B) defend anything in the name of "pro fiction", "pro kink" and "sex positivity". I'm sure they're panicking and whining over this news and I don't care.
>>2628909>>2628916It just comes down to this. "I don't think we should be allowing the promotion of material that portrays underage girls as sexual objects for men to groom and rape" REEEEE HOW DARE YOU TAKE AWAY MY PORN!!! PURITAN!!!
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>final fantasy twink gets de-slutified
>original nier game only gets ugly roidpig release in the west because moids are too insecure to play as a cute twink
>BL authors get arrested in China
>testament gets trooned out
honk shoo honk shoo mimimi
>steam bans rape incest shovelware
WOW THIS IS LITERALLY 1984!!!! THE WEST HAS FALLEN THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT'S LEADING ONTO A FULL ON DICTATORSHIP THANKS TO THE FEMINAZIS!!!!11!!
As per usual, moids only care about free peach when it affects something they care about. Yawn. A while ago a had a discussion with moids about censorship in videogames and brought up the examples above, did they care? no, they all reasponded ''lol based ccp'' ''banning faggotry is based tho ecksdee''. I dont care about freedom of speech anymore, i want moids to perish.
No. 2628943
>>2628929Pickmes are male spirited.
>>2628937These same men will want to ban games like LADS while jerking off to loli porn, but as soon as their loli porn gets delisted on steam they will claim anyone who doesn’t sign their petitions are anti free speech, complicit in totalitarian government control, and will soon get sniped by cia operatives for getting caught reading anything but the holy Bible.
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>>2628952I don’t need performance enhancing drugs, wall scrolls, or dual monitors, all I need is to imagine kissing and dry humping Leon Kennedy to mechanically abrade my pussy out of commission for several days.
Moid gooners are smalltime. Their hearts aren’t in it like mine is. All of that effort for one pitiful, unsatisfying orgasm and bi-weekly wellness checks called in by concerned neighbors. One sesh for me, that’s 20+ orgasms to reminiscing over the texture of his pinky finger. Each one has me seeing the face of god.
You think I’m not on their level? They’re not on my level.
No. 2629020
>>2627148Well I admit, that
is disturbing. When I mentioned her, I was thinking of her other pieces, the ones about her own rape, since rape
victims touching on the subject of rape was the topic being discussed. Tbh I forgot about this and the other piece that was posted.
I guess your argument is that horribly traumatized women who choose to vent through stuff like art should be completely forbidden from doing so, and instead bottle it up and hide their trauma because moids will masturbate to anything, and because it makes people uncomfortable, even though the art is clearly not meant to titillate at all (again, talking about her other artworks here,
not the ones you cherry-picked, since we were talking about rape, not about the sexualization of children).
https://artofericwayne.com/2019/12/16/the-harrowing-figurative-paintings-of-suzzan-blac/https://nordicmodelnow.org/2022/08/12/suzzan-blac-discusses-her-life-trauma-and-extraordinary-art/I see your argument and find it somewhat
valid. It's unfortunate that sick fucks exist and that they can profit off of the subject of rape (or from rape itself) and masturbate to it, but there's nothing we can do about that since moids will always exist. But I don't think just censoring every woman who wants to deliver an anti-rape and anti-porn message, or women who are just venting all their rage through art, is right, either. Suzzan Blac in particular is not someone you can usually find without actively looking for her art, so it's not like she's constantly trying to remind other traumatized women of their pain by shoving her art in everyone's faces, she's just doing her own thing in her own corner. And it's also not like there aren't women who have experienced rape or abuse and find comfort in mainstream works of fiction where the topic is handled well (for example, by making it subtle enough that dumbass scrotes can't even pick up on it).
Please keep in mind that I'm making a clear distinction between women who make art and/or criticism and moids and pickmes who actually get off to rape and try to pass it off as "art". If you choose to assume that everyone who defends women's rights to create legitimate vent art or art that is meant to send an anti-porn message is not being genuine and possibly a tranny trying to defend his rape porn, that's on you. This isn't aimed at you in particular but at every retard in this thread that is incapable of critical thinking.
>>2627155>pro-pornIn my first post, I implied that I support the censorship of all kinds of porn, even if women's porn is included. I even said:
>A world without porn would be niceRead before replying and stop assuming everyone has a black-and-white retard mentality like you. Not everyone has Twitterbrain and not everyone thinks you have to pick sides or else you're with the enemy. Even better, people can disagree on some points and still be on the same side.
>>2627769Yes, you're right. I didn't play the game and just made assumptions based on what had been posted in the thread so far. I obviously don't support pickmes creating shock and pornographic content for scrote attention.
If women who are just making their self-indulgent bishie games with no misogyny involved aren't being affected by this ban, then that's pretty cool.
No. 2629042
>>2629020I don’t think traumatized women should be exempt from making art. Unfortunately women tend to internalize victimhood, in cases where they should be externalizing.
Men do not sympathize with or uplift traumatized women who actually make them uncomfortable, instead they treat them with callousness or cruelty. Men will tolerate traumatized women whose coping mechanisms involve titillating or serving them in some way. It’s a perverse incentive, one that women should question more. Even if you are a pariah for it, at least you lose the hatred you’ve reserve for yourself as a woman.
Instead of sexualizing themselves and other women in grotesque and violent artistic depictions, they would be better off depicting men being subject to grotesque and violent treatment. Instead of doing either, the healthiest way to cope is by creating artwork that cultivates a positive message, something that reflects a world that they want to live in.
I’m not saying women can’t to what they want and they have to be perfect all the time, but I do not think women who primarily create what is essentially an abstracted version of self harm are healthy.
If it is men who traumatized you, and your artwork doesn’t offend them where it counts, then I don’t think you’re progressing. You are doing more harm than good.
It’s very similar to women who cope with kinkshit. You aren’t helping anyone by reenacting your molestation with some random man. You are conditioning yourself to think you still deserve that same treatment, and reinforcing misogynistic beliefs in your partner, as well as everyone else you spread the message to. I don’t agree with it. These women should raise their self esteem, not continue to relive their past but in a more controlled setting.
No. 2629092
>>2629078I will give u a quote from the late, great Valerie Solanas that I think sums everything up:
“Daddy’s Girl, passive, adaptable, respectful of and in awe of the male, allows him to impose his hideously dull chatter on her. This is not too difficult for her, as the tension and anxiety, the lack of cool, the insecurity and self-doubt, the unsureness of her own feelings and sensations that Daddy instilled in her make her perceptions superficial and render her unable to see that the male’s babble is a babble; like the aesthete “appreciating” the blob that’s labelled “Great Art”, she believes she’s grooving on what bores the shit out of her. Not only does she permit his babble to dominate, she adapts her own “conversation” accordingly.”
No. 2629331
>>2629241He might be apart of some official sonic thing because I recognize that Sonic puppet from the official Sonic the Hedgehog social media.
I wish the Sonic fandom wasn't filled with gendies and handmaidens. I love Sonic and the non political Sonic fans (aka pure fans) can produce incredible stuff.
No. 2629522
>>2629078Same reason why men like rape
victims who cope by fashioning themselves as kinky sex kittens and want to have BDSM sex where they roleplay being molested all over again, instead of rape
victims who cope by being more scrutinizing and defensive towards men.
If men have to choose between art that calls for introspection and art that calls for boners, they choose boners.
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I'm against video games being censored and shit, but when I see groomers seethe over their exploitation of women being removed it makes me happy. The LGBT movement is a pedo psyop and all of these happenings is really bringing out their true colors.
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>>2629731Masturbation as a form of praxis
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>>2629731>13 year olds looking for a communityOn fucking XHAMSTER?