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Happy 4th of July!
>ignore bait>be a good American citizenPrevious threads:
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How fortunate that the new thread starts on Alfred's birthday! Happy 4th!
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President Donald Trump announced a UFC fight will take place at the White House next year to celebrate America’s upcoming 250th birthday.
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>>2590592>The demographics of St. Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans, and Detroit is mostly latam? Seems like a different ethnicity is responsible for these.And its definitely not the irish or any european immmigrants.
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>>2590776Sorry.
Happy day of Burger.
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>>>/ot/2585645>"White is more of an American, or in general, a New World concept than it is a European one”.>”Johann Friedrich Blumenbach (11 May 1752 – 22 January 1840) was a German physician, naturalist, physiologist and anthropologist. He is considered to be a main founder of zoology and anthropology as comparative, scientific disciplines. He has been called the ‘founder of racial classifications’.”>”Blumenbach's classification of the single human species into five varieties (later called "races") (1793/1795):>the Caucasian or white race. Blumenbach was the first to use this term for Europeans, and he also included North Africans, Middle Easterners and South Asians in the same category.[17]>the Mongolian or yellow race, including all East Asians.>the Malayan or brown race, including Southeast Asians and Indigenous peoples of Oceania.>the Ethiopian or black race, including all sub-Saharan Africans.>the American or red race, including all Native Americans.How is “white” so much more of an American concept if Europeans were the first to start classifying race?
>If you wanted to apply this question to the American sensibility, for example, then ask: Are people from Jersey City considered New Yorkers?You space your points like a redditor. Also, you’re comparing two people of the same nationality to two people from different countries and continents when the question was about race.
>>>/ot/2585659>Euros have always been more focused on nationality than race, in my experience>in my experience>indingenous people of the Americas had been targeted and raped so hard that we have modern day mestizos; which are basically a racial admixture historically born from Spanish men forcibly impregnating native women>French men had punished black slaves so severely in places such as Jamaica that one form of punishment involved forcing slaves to defecate in each other’s mouths>Modern day: Europeans make monkey noises and throw bananas at black soccer players in racist gesture>African player in Portugal had to leave game because of racist harassment>”Racism towards Black people is growing in Europe, with Germany, Austria and Finland showing the highest rates of discrimination and harassment, a survey of first- and second-generation Black immigrants in 13 EU countries published on Wednesday found. The European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA), which commissioned the survey and analyzed its findings in a report, said that in the space of six years since the previous study the proportion of respondents who had felt racially discriminated against in the past 12 months had risen by 10 percentage points to 34%. In Austria and Germany the proportion was 64% - almost twice the previous level of 33% in Germany and a significant increase from the 42% recorded in Austria six years earlier. The next worst was Finland with 54%. "It is shocking to see no improvement since our last survey," FRA Director Michael O'Flaherty said. "Instead, people of African descent face ever more discrimination just because of the colour of their skin." The proportion of respondents who reported feeling racially discriminated against over the past five years rather than 12 months rose to 45% across the 13 countries surveyed, an increase of six points from the previous study. The top three were the same, with Germany's rate the highest at 76%.”Saying that Europeans care less about race is not true. Not after a point in the past, not today. Europeans aren’t different from Americans when it comes to racism, and that’s at BEST.
>>>/ot/2585660>This particular neurosis regarding 'race' that blights the New World societies is a result of colonialism, specifically the institution of caste and the institution of slavery.You mean the social system that Europeans invented and continue to engage in the first place? Why are you blaming Americans for what Europeans introduced to this world? Also, you keep bringing up nationality as if European xenophobia cancels out racism. That’s not how that works.
>>>/ot/2585672>”She still doesn't get it, Americans are wild”>fail to address how Europeans view the classification of what is considered “white” and how Turks may or may not fall into the social category>”omg Americans are wild!”Is this why more international students flock to the USA than any European country or country in general? I don’t blame them if this is average Europoor intellect despite stats.
>>>/ot/2585682>You're asking about apples vs oranges when the conversation is about airplanes. The concept of "white" as you understand it isn't how it works over there.Your analogy falls apart when you are aware of the fact that it was Europeans themselves who invented and continue to use this label.
>over thereAre you even European? Why are you speaking on behalf of a group of people you’re not even a part of?
Bro thinks she’s part of the team KEK>>>/ot/2585679>Anon you won't understand it no matter how hard we try to explain it.You never answered my question and you failed to even get your facts straight.
>Just play a song you like and dance for a while and enjoy your life and forget these things that you can't comprehend.>never addresses race classification being a European toy that they used to justify numerous atrocities across the globe>doesn’t read the news and look at modern day European acknowledgement of race>dodge the question to define what “white” means according to Europeans>”you’re too stupid to comprehend it!”Don’t be a teacher, PLEASE. Also,
>66% of the songs on Spotify's Global Top-50 playlist were recorded by US-based artists. American acts are leading the industry.Americans mog European artists anyway, so dance and sing I will.
>>>/ot/2585690>They're just the nationality that they are nona.Can’t answer the question but still spoke.
>>>/ot/2585700>Please read books more.You mean like books on Europoor history? Okay, here’s a synopsis.
>Europe->No history whatsoever > Romans discovers them living in shit covered holes in the ground >Romans attempt to civilize them, but fail>Destroy Roman Empire and doesn't know what to do with Greco-Roman knowledge.>Return to barbarism >Cope by calling "Dark Ages">Get invaded by Moors>Moors reintroduce classical Greco-Roman knowledge >Cope by calling "Renaissance">Sail around the globe with Moorish maps & navigation technology to plunder just like Barbarian ancestors.>Cope by calling it "Age of discovery">Spend the next 400 years looting the world.>Can't agree on how to divide stolen loot.>Engage in large-scale tribal war & destroy own nations >Cope by calling it "world war">Blame Jews for destruction >Launch another large-scale tribal war because why not>Attempt to co-opt Greco-Roman history> Cope by inventing imaginary progenitor Aryan race> Attempt to pass off marauding hordes of raiders as glorious Viking civilization for further cope.>Deflect attention from Europe's lack of any prehistory by belittling African history.>Largest pre Roman construction in all of Europe is a pile of rocks called “The Stonehenge”Interesting books indeed when history is just full of you being embarrassing whores. Even Hitler thought European history was a nothingburger:
>”Why do we call the whole world’s attention to the fact that we have no past? It’s bad enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone axe he finds…..We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these revelations.”Sad whores.
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>>2590795>>>/ot/2585701>can’t explain a European concept despite supposedly being either European or knowledgeable about the subject>”You’re stupid and I’m funny so here’s a Patrick Star meme!”Bill Burr is unironically funnier. Yikes.
>>>/ot/2585704What a nothingburger response. If uneducated, why speak at all?
>>2585705>>>/ot/2585705>WW2 was more about nationality and religion. Americans haven't been toe-to-toe in conflicts like Europeans have, so it's easier for you to see this as one race versus another.Again, you are bringing up nationality and religion to derail what the original question was about. Also, you are downplaying the significant regard of race that Nazis and Europeans in general gave about race.
>”The Nazi's cornerstone precept of "racial hygiene" gave birth to their policy of "racial cleansing" that led to the murders of millions. It was developed by German physicians and scientists in the late 19th century and is rooted in the period's Social Darwinism that placed blacks at the bottom of the racial ladder. This program was first manifested in the near-extermination of the African Herero people during the German colonial period. After WWI, the fear among the German populace that occupying African troops and their Afro-German children would lead to "bastardization" of the German people formed a unifying racial principle that the Nazis exploited. They extended this mind-set to a variety of "unworthy" groups, leading to the physician-administered racial Nuremberg laws, the Sterilization laws, the secret sterilization of Afro-Germans, and the German euthanasia program. This culminated in the extermination camps.”Jews were not the only
victims of WWII. Europeans were not done terrorizing those outside of the white race just because they were also occupied with jews. Read more.
>>>/ot/2585708>stantwitter meme because of one’s own failure to properly answer a questionIf only Europeans cared more about being less racist to black people and Asians than America instead of using random memes with black women on them. My goodness.
>>>/ot/2585713>you areI’m not arabian.
>>>/ot/2585718>Answer too complex and not simpleIt’s either you’re not European yourself, or you just don’t know enough of what you’re talking about. There’s no reason for why the question is this hard, unless you’re one of those two things.
>>>/ot/2585725>>>/ot/2585788>>>/ot/2585789>>>/ot/2585815>>>/ot/2585824>examples adding up to number 2947238975983759 of how scrotes mog women in comedy despite being responsible for 90% of violent crimes>>>/ot/2585726>I so, so desperately want you to understand that I can't even be mean.The problem is that you simply don’t know enough of what you’re talking about even though you so, so desperately want to be a historian.
>”Good luck navigating life with your reading comprehension skills”>spent several posts bringing up irrelevant points to not answer what was simply: “Do Europeans think of Turks as white?”“Ugh, you have no reading comprehension!”
This is like a teacher being asked by a student “what’s 2+2”, talking in redundant circles about apples, oranges and the space-time continuum and calling the student dumb for “just not getting it”.
>I hope you enjoy your senior year of high school next year.I graduated high school a year early. Also,
>the average four-year high school graduation rate in the United States was approximately 87.4%. In the EU, the average share of people aged 20-24 with at least an upper secondary education (similar to high school) was 84.3% in 2024.Have YOU graduated? Oh wait, you’re most definitely not even European. My bad.
>>>/ot/2585729You're not gonna get it until you let go of the word "white". It just doesn't apply. There is not a "white equivalent" in Europe. It is just us vs them.
This is just false. Not even arguably false. With everything I have provided, you are objectively just incorrect.
>>>/ot/2585735>I should have clarified I don't think they see race in regards to other Caucasian, light-skinned people. Obviously people with darker skin or distinctly different facial features always face additional levels of prejudice based on that alone. It still falls into the category of us vs themRacism is a form of prejudice that implies the ability to see race if there’s even a possibility to create a bias based on it. Yes, there is “us vs. them” in Europe. Not just in nationality, but also in race. You basically just admitted that there’s racism in Europe, meaning that European perspective on race isn’t that different from racism literally anywhere else. This means that Europeans do see race, so the question was how do they view Turks in terms of race?
>”I don't think they”So you’re not European. Why were you ever speaking? Why didn’t you properly read that my question wasn’t meant for someone like you to answer in the first place? I thought you had superior reading comprehension. I guess my American nationality put a dent in it.
>>>/ot/2585765>Another American moment. Biracial people aren't half, they're double.I’m not taking biology lessons from someone who descended from a group of borderline neanderthals who needed Romans to make them stop fucking their own fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins and random animals in swamps. Or from a demographic of women who had to be told to stop prostituting themselves to sell their own babies into slavery for being part black.
>”…for as much a[s] diverse Freeborne English or Whitewoman sometimes by the instigation Procurement of Convievance of theire Masters Mistres or dames, and always to the Satisfaction of theire Lascivious and Lusftfull desires, and to the disgrace not only of the English butt also of mant other Christian Nations, do Intermarry with Negroes and Slaves…”>>>/ot/2585921>Idk about anyone else but I’m not denying that Europe is racist as shit it’s just its own unique history of racism that can’t be understood through an American lens of “whiteness.”Because Europeans definitely never had or at least transported slaves based on a sense of racial superiority into the 17th century just like Americans did. Nah. Let’s just lie about history to make Europe look so different from America.
>>>/ot/2585948>this is a question that can be answered with a yes or no you ameritard.>There is the group with heavily slavic genetics, the one with middle eastern genetics and the one who still has mongolian genetics although the last one is rare. So no, it depends on the person, their whole ethnicity as a nation can't be classified as one ethnicity due to the diversity in it. Some are very white nordic looking, some look arab, and some look like a mix of those two.>”It CanT bE AnsWerED WitH a YeS or nO yoU AmEritArd!>Proceeds to answer the question with a very simple answer.So basically, the answer is that yes, Turkish people can be white and will be seen as white depending on the individual’s race. You answered the question, but you honestly don’t strike me as that intelligent.
>>>/ot/2585967>here's how europe divides it's whiteness. ultra white: pig snout nose, Whoville lips, natural platinum blonde, icy blue eyes, flat. white: dark blonde hair, blue/hazel eyes, button nose but not as snouty. ambigious/exotic: luigi mangioni, olive skin tone, wavy or curly hair, dark brunette, dark eyes, aquiline nose, prominent eyes. Not-white: anything that's not the first two and sometimes the third one. Also it depends on which part of europe you are because in some parts the luigi mangioni phenotype is considered white but in other parts he is not.You do all that when you don’t even have the largest genetic diversity. You guys don’t even come in second place.
>”You are giving such a 4chan /pol/ stench, also look at a american calling someone a mutt”>has a problem with politically incorrect statements about racial admixture>proceeds to be politically incorrect on the assumption that an American can’t be one race with one ethnicity>ignore the fact that there’s an entire European country known as the “United Kingdom” that is composed of ethnic mutts due to invasion by different groups of other ancient Europoors.Strange behavior.
>>>/ot/2585976>”I told you you’re arabs”I’m not arab and if I could switch out the “European” DNA in me for anything else, I would go with East Asia. Not necessarily proud to be an American, but glad I’m not European.
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>>2590798>What is something you love about America?It looks like a happy little creature
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What are you bringing to the cookout nonnies? I'm bringing the ribs
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>>2590811Aw, super cute. I've always liked the shape of Oklahoma for some reason. Looks like a hand with a finger pointing West to me.
>>2590812The coleslaw!
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>>2590812I’m showing up with a nice, tailgate sized serving of perfectly seasoned fries for all my nonnies to enjoy of course!!
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>>2590812I made a crumbcake nonnies!
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>>2590795This is what happens when you call a Turk an arab. Noted
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>>2590798The individualism we have. Film, fashion, and other art mediums can flourish here.
t. is huffing the hopium and pretending AI doesn't exist
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>>2590812Cumin lamb skewers
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Happy Bday American nonnies from Britain
Im not serious about pic rel it made me kek
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Is there a Russian bot takeover? Even during the election pro trump crap wasn't drilled that hard. Even then I live in a heavily red area and people never react that way irl and my entire family is republican
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>>2591245same way i felt the last two days
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>>2591245I feel bad but I guess all I can do is be good to others, try to stay healthy and stay at a job with good insurance
>>2590798Our freedom when it comes to creative expression, we can kind of do whatever we want vs getting arrested or decapitated in other countries if anything is too offensive. I've been listening to the Assassins musical soundtrack all day, can't really imagine another country where a show like that could be made kek
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>>2591317Terrence Mann did such a good job on the recording I don't blame you
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>>2591359So the united States is right next to Mexico, it’s on top of it. The majority of illegal immigrants are usually from Mexico and other countries in South America, so it kinda makes sense why they’d argue the most about Mexicans. But I also see people getting just as angry about indians, Asians, Middle Easterners all the time
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>>2591359i agree, i think all of them should be deported as well
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>>2591471It’s also probably a good amount of retail worker PSTD from Black Friday consoomerism, tbh.
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what do y'all think about this? makes my skin crawl..
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>>2591404>>2591553Just put everything into low cost index funds. Ignore line going up or down, only sell if you actually need the money, so long as the economy grows in the long run you will inevitably get a return it's only a question of when and how much. Make sure it has a low expense ratio (somewhere around 0.1% or less) so the cost of managing the fund doesn't eat too much into your profits
There are various ones you can choose, some of the most popular are VOO, SPY, VTI, IVV, etc you can find one yourself easily if you look around
Put some money in foreign index funds too to protect yourself in case the American economy ever goes to shit. For the past decade or so American stocks have produced excellent gains but there is no guarantee that will last forever, American stocks have had extended periods of producing no profit either (dot-com bubble, 2008 recession) and past performance is not a good indicator of future success. Some common foreign index funds include VXUS, SWISX, VTIAX, etc
Another common strategy is to just put money into VT (world index fund) and then buy other indices from there
Decide for yourself based on your age how you want to distribute it. Some go 70 American 30 Foreign, 80 American 20 Foreign, etc. Putting everything in American or foreign will be riskier
Put some money in bonds too. As you grow older, you are going to want more stable income, since index funds are still volatile. Common truism is to subtract your age from 100 to 110 to determine the percentage of your portfolio that should be in stocks. So if you are 30, having 70-80% of your portfolio be stocks, the rest in bonds is a decent number. It doesn't HAVE to be that way that's just common advice. If you are younger, you can afford to take more risks since even if your stocks don't work out you can always work more to recoup your losses.
Have some savings in a bank account, enough to last you at least 6 months so in case you lose your job and the stock market goes to shit you won't be forced to sell your stocks at a loss to survive
You don't have to pay tax whenever you buy stocks, but you do have to pay tax whenever you sell. If you held those stocks for under a year whatever profits you gain will be taxed as regular income. If you held for over a year you have to pay a capital gains tax, which will usually be smaller. Consider the taxes you will have to pay if you are going to sell stocks as you don't want the IRS chasing after you (this is one reason why constantly buying and selling is a limited strategy, you have to keep paying taxes)
Over time you may genuinely be more interested in being an active trader (i.e. buying individual stock). Start off small, do research, put money in companies you think will genuinely make profit in the future, only put in money you are willing to lose because buying individual stock is riskier than indices. If you want to trade things like options and futures just be very careful and really make sure you do your research because many people have been financially ruined doing that
Crypto is kind of a meme, it's filled with scammers, isn't regulated, and is even riskier than individual stocks. Like above, if you are going to get into it only put in money you are willing to lose, ignore any "influencer" endorsements because they are all scams, be wary of rugpulls (they happen literally all the time).
If you have an IRA (like a Roth IRA) don't forget to buy stocks with it too
Do this as consistently as you can, time in the market is more important than timing the market. There are various other investments you can make but this is a good foundation for 99% of Americans
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>>2591553If you have 70k sitting in a savings account, you're shooting yourself in the foot. Hire a financial advisor and start investing. You'd also qualify for a down payment on so many condos in so many cities across the country. If you have 70k in savings and you're still living at home, that's really a self-own. Follow the advice
>>2591602 gave you, or hire a financial advisor to handle the investment for you if you're uncomfortable with doing it yourself.
>>2591491The kids are dumb and prideful nowadays. They wanna play nihilist but when they wake up and they're in their 30 with no assets, then they'll be crying. Oh well. Cycle of poverty forever I suppose.
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>>2591544Let me inject some positivity into this assessment. I am travelling there to visit family and I cannot wait to eat an ungodly amount of sweet corn. Is there some website that lists all the upper midwestern corn fests? I want to go to a corn fest so badly.
Corn in Europe is sad. It's nothing like what's available in the Midwest.
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>>2591690NTA anon's recommendations are very good and a solid strategy for retiring. Index funds are extremely low risk and safe, nowhere near 'gambling' since they essentially follow the market which has a historical return of like 6-7%. You are thinking of picking stocks, which she does mention and specifically says to be very careful because it can ruin your finances.
It's not an ideal strategy if you need money soon, it's a long term 'set and forget' thing, so I agree it's not ideal for people with no disposable income at all. But if you care about your finances at all you'd be better off looking into what she suggests rather than having a knee jerk reaction to the stockmarket as if it's only for wallstreet moids or something. It's actually very accessible and useful for normal, risk averse people.
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>>2591708Literally. There's no point in having more than a couple of thousand dollars in a savings account, just enough to cover emergencies. If she kept 10k in a savings account and invested the 60k into a simple lazy portfolio, she'd be at 120k in no time. It's so tiring hearing ignorant people complaining about never being able to afford to buy a house or retire, but then simultaneously ignoring and deriding all advice offered to them.
Responses like
>>2591690 are so derivative. She could have thanked the anon that offered the advice but instead she has to go on the defensive and talk down to the person that knows more than her. A lot of poor people stay poor because they hate admitting that they don't know crap or that they're harming their future with their inaction.
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>>2591572There's no proof but it's a very compelling theory (regarding the potential for illegal human experiments). Not like that hasn't happened before in multiple places around the world by multiple governments.
The part about slashing existing public funding then funneling it into private contracts with tech companies is definitely happening I mean it's not even a theory it's literally on paper now. They always said they would do that and have done it and now they are doing it more.
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>>2591892 is good advice
nonnie but
>>2591868 is talking about a traditional IRA where it's taken out pre-tax. A financial advisor should be able to guide you on which one would be more appropriate for your situation.
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>>2591889Read
>>2591602 then go to a reputable financial advisor.
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The defunding of NWS laid the groundwork for the disaster going on in Texas right now. Who knows how many more will be reported dead but I'm hoping the missing teen girls are somehow ok.