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No. 363062

Kpop Critical # 15 - "Couples Edition"

Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.

· Don't sperg, complain or pick fights.
· Don't racebait.
· Don't fangirl, save that for the Kpop General thread here: >>301262
· Don't derail about dumb shit. If it doesn't directly have to do with Kpop, don't post about it here.
· This thread is not about shipping or fangirling. Save that for the general kpop thread here: >>301262

Las thread >>349793

Previous threads:
>>232967
>>241117
>>252094
>>263689
>>280708
>>288008
>>295475
>>302973
>>310316
>>321283
>>330275
>>336991
>>344649

No. 363063

You forgot to mention the 14th thread
>>349793

No. 363064

The best thread pic till now

No. 363065

So someone on the last thread mentioned Taeyeon's departure from SM >>357806 and I found this

>And whilst I don't know how true it is but I have heard in the past about Taeyeon & Yoona having different contract terms and lengths that were signed back in 2014.. Apparently in those 2014 renewals whilst the other members of SNSD signed on for an additional 3 years to 2017. Taeyeon & Yoona's ran for an extra 2 years, putting them both into 2019. We're now in 2019 and whilst it seems that Yoona has renewed her contract. Taeyeon has held out on doing. That is if it is true that they both signed 5 year contracts in 2014.


I wonder how and why both of them have different contract lengths than the rest of SNSD?

No. 363066

>>363065
Probably because they were the most popular (and thus profitable) SNSD members.

No. 363067

>>363065
>>363066
This and SM knows it, it's why I wouldn't be suprised if they try to hold them hostage and try to scare them into staying or leave the industry all together

No. 363068

I'm cackling about how Somi and her attention seeking white dad lost out on JYP's ITZSY group, especially since they seem to be going for the girl crush image that she loves.

No. 363069

>>363066
I wonder if Jessica was offered the same but she rejected it and that was what made her leave SM? She was a big deal too back then

No. 363070

>>363068
I wonder when Somi will get her debut, we all know how shit YG is. Idk if leaving JYP was good, but entering YG is a stupid move.

No. 363071

>>363069
Possibly

No. 363072

>>363068
>>363070
As much as I don't like Somi, I'm still worried that if she goes solo she might still have a chance. Just look at Sunmmi, she's not a good singer but she has the looks and lucked out with 3 good songs in a row.

I hope she falls by the wayside like Yubin

No. 363073

>>363068
She could have left JYP exactly because she was told she wouldn't be debuting with ITZSY.

No. 363074

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>>363068
Somi is pissed she lost because it would have been Miss A (Suzy and the girls) all over again, especially with that visual hole chaeyeon

No. 363075

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Is ITZY Twice 2.0 though? All of them seem to be counterfeits of other gg members. For instance this girl reminds me of Tzuyu.

No. 363076

>>363074
The girl in ITZY is Chaeyeon's sister. Chaeyeon probably got booted out of JYP because of her looks.

No. 363077

>>363075
Itzy doesn't remind me of twice. The girl crush vs innocent concept is an obvious reason but also no itzy members are foreign to Korea iirc and talent was held in a higher regard than visuals for choosing members

No. 363078

>>363075
god the lip make up for the promo is so bad

No. 363079

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>>363075
She looks like kyulkyung more than anything

No. 363080

How do you guys feel about Grazy Grace?

I like these "expose" videos and her personality of being straightforward and honest about the industry, but I sometimes feel like she's still fake herself

No. 363081

>>363076
Lol she still looks worse than her sister, she must have talent to still debut over Somi

No. 363082

>>363080
I liked her produce 48 video. her nose is so sad though.
>>363081
well most of trainees from sixteen have already left JYP. idk who else they could've chosen.

No. 363083

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>>363074
This Chaeryeong girl looks like Twice's Chaeyoung, their names are also similar. Weird.

No. 363084

>>363083
God she has such a punchable face

No. 363085

>>363080
Idk who grace is but both their noses are so botched

No. 363086

>>363084
How? She looks fine.

No. 363087

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>>363079
Oh right she does. This pic especially. Idols are really morphing into each other.

No. 363088

>>363080
I really enjoy these sorts of videos but I didn't like what I saw of her on UPR. Also I don't find her music to be that good.

No. 363089

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So sunmi used to look like this before she became a walking skeleton

No. 363090

>>363089
Holy fuck I thought this was Seulgi for a second.

No. 363091

>>363079
Holy shit she does

No. 363092

>>363090
Is this why she likes Seulgi so much kek

No. 363093

>>363075
Yeah they're trying too hard to go for the 2NE1 image and failing, because honestly JYP isn't good at making "badass" girl groups - WG and Miss A didn't have the "luxury swag" concept.

That said if they're real competition to Black Pink I'm all for them because they've been robbing an empty house with their "girl crush" image and I'd like to see blinks get salty when the inevitable fan exodus occurs

No. 363094

>>363065
I don't doubt that Taeyeon and Yoona got better contracts, but I think Taeyeon at least signed a 2-year contract in 2017 and that was probably under immense pressure. I was expecting her not to renew after the Jakarta airport incident where SM let her face crowds with just one guard, but I guess SM's blackmailing worked.
They're not above using emotional manipulation to get people to sign contracts.

No. 363095

>>363092
Because seulgi reminds her of her younger self? Lol

No. 363096

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>>363089
nah she's always been a twig but did have a rounder baby face as a teen

No. 363097

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hansol scares the shit out of me. no wonder sm didn't debut him

No. 363098

>>363097
he's botched like yuta though and yuta looked scarier at some point, ig they fucked up both of them and got rid of one of the clones

No. 363099

>>363072
Personally I hoped that Yubin would be the one doing better… I've always found her more interesting than Sunmi. But I also understand that she's 30 now so the industry is more likely to push her aside

No. 363100

>>363099
Yubin also doesn't pander to men's fantasies of lesbianism despite being actually bi/lesbian, so she didn't have much of a chance anyway.

No. 363101

>>363098
I could never tell the difference between Yuta and Hansol

No. 363102

>>363097
He always looks so miserable. I watched The Unit and I don't remember ever seeing him smile.

No. 363103

>>363062
Kek he looks like a baked cheetoh

No. 363104

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>>363097
i always thought hansol looked like a more feminine version of yuta before they both fucked up their faces. when i first saw him as a rookie i thought he was the prettiest one around but now he looks downright terrifying.

pic related is him from his smrookie days

No. 363105

>>363099
JYP doesn't care about her. Her last single came out by the end of November and was only released on Spotify less than a month ago.

No. 363106

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>>363105
I don't understand why she stayed. She talked about being confused when WG disbanded and I guess that plays a big part. But the other girls were right to leave, I guess Sunmi and YeEun already had their solo debuts under JYP and knew how much he stifled their creativity and potential. Yubin is probably only now realizing that pretty much any label would treat her better than this. Anyways, she renewed two years ago so hopefully, her contract isn't much longer.

On a related note, there's been reports about Sunye singing with a label and returning to Korea to make music. Way back in the day, Sunye was actually my first bia in the group but then she chose to become a missionary and a mother/wife over her group before her contract was even up… and now that everyone else has gone solo she wants a piece of the action? She has a life in Canada with 3 kids and has denounced fame before. I don't understand.

No. 363107

>>363106
And isn't Sunye getting hate exactly for that reason? She's often pointed to as the one who destroyed WG

No. 363108

>>363107
Idk i've never thrown hate her way and JYP destroyed the group itself, it's none of the girls' fault. But her actions confuse me nonetheless. Polaris says she'll have broadcasted promotions.. of what though? gospel music?

No. 363109

>>363107
>>363108
iirc she re-signed with jyp at a time when she knew she was about to leave the country and industry. it's not her fault wonder girls were fucked over, but she definitely extended their hiatus by making it seem like she'd be back soon when that wasn't her plan. it's weird how much more shit yg gets for 2ne1's downfall when wonder girls have been a mess behind the scenes since the beginning and were abandoned for a new girl group too

No. 363110

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>>363097
he looks like the one girl from rainbow



this one

No. 363111

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i know these retarded channels have been brought up before but damn this channel always pops up in my recommendations and i literally don't even watch anything related to vkook, k-pop ships or whatever. i don't understand why armys keep whining about their poor boys getting their privacy invaded yet believe in and give clout to these channels where they make 20 minute analysises on every breath they take. like i checked out this fujo's videos to see if she actually makes a point but her editing is laughable and she doesn't even make any sense, she just tinfoils about how v is depressed because he drank water and looked skinny during a performance or how south korea supports them coming out because vkook is a popular ship in korea and 14 year old pansexual enby armys are crying in the comments because muh lgbt representation

No. 363112

>>363109
It's so ironic to watch this interview now. Timestamp 00:53, the interviewer just says out loud that JYP doesn't care about them ("He prefers other unnies, right?"), the girls agree and Yeeun says "There's also TWICE on top of that now" and jokes about the fact that he "coaches them more closely". They knew it.

No. 363113

>>363112
Yeah it's common knowledge that they were thrown under the bus for Twice

No. 363114

>>363111
That's a lot of views. I wonder if they are just conspiracy theory-ing in order to make bank.

No. 363115

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>>363076
they look the same tho.
Sakura was so overrated looks wise it's crazy

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No. 363117

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>>363115
All of Izone has overrated visuals imo. They praise Hyewon (girl in pic) even though she is ugly. The laugh lines make her look so awkward to look at. There are so many visual holes with them its crazy

No. 363118

>>363116
her nickname was 'chucky' on 4chan /kpg/ for that very reason lol

No. 363119

hyuna and edawn come off as very attention seeking and stupid for what they did. obviously there's nothing wrong with dating, but coming out about your relationship when you know it'll just damage your career is such a dumb move. at least wait until you're getting married. it makes me think they only came out about their relationship so they could post couple photos on instagram. why do international kpop fans want everybody to feel sorry for these idiots?

No. 363120

>>363119
western fans perceive any woman who is unapologetic about hopping on a dick as some sort of queen or something

they did the same thing with sulli despite her questionable behavior

No. 363121

>>363115
To be honest, I cannot stand Sakura, she's way to overhyped.

No. 363122

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>>363117
Irene's got them too and she's praised like crazy

No. 363123

>>363121
Me neither. I guess it's the peak of japanese members in kpop, like after this I can't see anyone else getting that kind of popularity, not to mention that most japanese members before her were so bland and uninteresting, take the Twice girls for example. It was unique at first to have japanese members in kpop but it's become so overrated.

No. 363124

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so people have been accusing that one guy from suju of being a predator because he put his hands quite low on irene's back during a choreography… thoughts?

No. 363125

>>363124
its leeteuk so we already know he's a creep and he probably did do it on purpose

No. 363126

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>>363125
he was praticallly jamming his dick inside the original singer…

No. 363127

>>363124
I don't get why they had her perform with super junior when she's so uncomfortable around men in the first place. he's already shown predatory behavior but that's a reach imo.

No. 363128

>>363124

Is that Leetuk? He's a known creep. He is known for sliding into much younger girls' insta DMs.

No. 363129

>>363128
and into their dormitories

No. 363130

>>363124
rv stans really just manage to make irene seem like even more of an autist by acting like she was terrified doing the choreography they’d rehearsed. leeteuk’s sleazy but he’s literally just doing the choreography, already edited to be more conservative, and the two of them are on good terms as it is.

No. 363131

>>363130
How do you know they are on ''good terms'' kek?

No. 363132

>>363128
leeteuk as a whole is just,,,, unfortunate.

I want to feel bad for him after seeing that clip of him talk about his fucked up childhood (and his dad eventually murdering his grandparents and all that) but thats obvs not an excuse for any of his pervyness, yeesh

No. 363133

>>363132
Holy shit, I didn't realize that happened to him, that's pretty fucked up.

No. 363134

>>363131
this literally took a minute to search for and find, there’s more instances of her interacting with him just fine. wouldn’t be that convincing otherwise but it’s about irene and her fans claim she is terrified of men and doesn’t hide how much she hates being around them. if it’s so amazing that she ever seems okay around a man then… she seems fine?

i was surprised to see any news to do with him at all since i thought he was the one who had to miss some of the chile dates because he had enteritis? if that was a day he was there then the guy was probably just focusing on not shitting himself

No. 363135

>>363134
you're an absolute moron. you can't tell anything from a scripted commercial. acting friendly towards each other is part of the whole fan service thing. you must be like 14

No. 363136

>>363135
like i said, there’s other videos too, i picked the first one that came up, i’m literally just going off of seeing people who are fans of the two of them saying they’re close. i’m not a fan of either of them, i don’t know much about either of them. almost all i know about leeteuk is that he’s creepy but multiple female idols still seem to talk nicely about him, and all i know about irene is that she looks like she’s being held at gunpoint most of the time, whether or not she’s meant to be fake nice for fanservice, so any time i see her acting happy i assume she is at least fine

No. 363137

>>363124
Irene is seen as an unapologetic lesbian queen that hates men. As usual kpop fans love projecting.

No. 363138

>>363115
As much as Koreans like to lie to themselves, they LOVE J-pop idols

No. 363139

>>363117
>>363122
Huh, I didn't know we still do this nasolabia thing.

well, this is lolcow

No. 363140

>>363130
ngl when I look at irene I can't help but think she must be a secretly autistic

No. 363141

>>363139
Irene looks pretty when they're not visual but Hyewon just has an unfortunate face regardless. Its less about the lines and more of the awkwardness of looking at them

No. 363142

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>>363141
This one is especially awkward

No. 363143

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No. 363144

>>363143
She looks terrified in every picture I've seen of her

No. 363145

This thread has really gone to shit ever since the obvious non-farmer stans raided it as a place to air their unpopular opinions. I can’t believe I’m seeing shit like “visual hole” posted unironically. I could entertain the BTS shit because the Armys are milky as fuck. This thread has declined so hard from what it started out as.

No. 363146

>>363145
Then rant about something kpop then shitface

No. 363147

>>363145
It's crazy how much nicer the first 3 or 4 threads were rip

No. 363148

>>363145
Be the change you want to see anon

No. 363149

>>363130
I don't doubt Irene is overreacting but Leeteuk has a history of being creepy to women and young girls

No. 363150

>>363119
I just think they should of waited until they both had another source of income lined up. All they are doing is showing the world how jobless they are.

No. 363151

>>363124
I was in that concert and I saw Irene dance with other guys with no problems, she was smiling and everything…. this is how the coreography goes, that's it omg
I get this thread is for critiques but this is so nitpicky

No. 363152

>>363149
Nah, it's more like he has history of being accused of being a creep. Kpop stans hates old people

No. 363153

>>363142
Isn't she like 15? God some anons here have such a vendetta against nasolabial folds and features like that, they are not even that noticeable since she's so young. You all sound like incels you ugly hags. I can get the hate for Hyuna or Jhope but come on, even Irene looks fine.

It just goes to show that people here hate the ps culture from kpop idols but you then give them enough fuel to feel like they need it, and then make fun of them even more. It's digusting. First threads were definitely a lot better before you jealous bitches came to nitpick on every female idol under the sun.

No. 363154

Any snarky thoughts on SVT's new comeback?

No. 363155

>>363154
Maybe best to post on the General thread? Critical will shit on every video and call Scoops a hunchback over and over before talking about the song. I actually really liked it anon, I think Seventeen is a talented group but I will admit I've never checked their b sides much. I did like the chorus, it had that wholesome feel. Didn't care much for the "home" move they do with their arms during it lol kind of too literal.

Just to add to the critical before anons foam at the mouth, I really don't like the berets idols are using lately. It's just too anime bishounen for me.

No. 363156

>>363154
I usually like svt's stuff but this song is kinda bad and the song doesn't really fit the video imo.

No. 363157

>>363155
Its called critical for a reason

No. 363158

>>363154
I thought it was just boring. Their music kinda fell off for me after 2016 though.

No. 363159

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these kids are younger but taller than bts in average lol i want to see them standing next to them. half of them speak english too

No. 363160

>>363154
Home shouldn't have been the title track, it's boring even though the instrumental is nice. Most people thought Good To Me or Getting Closer deserved title, and I can't help but agree with that. Shhh was the best song on the album but it's a unit track so it wouldn't have gotten to be the title.

No. 363161

>>363159
kek i always assume idols' height is about 5 cm shorter than they claim, they lie too often about it

No. 363162

>>363159
Kai seems kind of cool, just very different from other idols that have been copy pasted everywhere, just judging from his past to the languages he speaks. The rest are boring and forgettable unless they really play up Beomgyu's rocker shit.

No. 363163

>>363159
I wonder if they'll be a band, considered one member used to be in one and another plays the guitar. Unlikely, but still.

No. 363164

>>363159
I wonder if they'll be a band, considered one member used to be in one and another plays the guitar. Unlikely, but still.

No. 363165

>>363163
would be cool if they were a band, i wish groups playing the instruments and writing their own songs like day6 were more common

No. 363166

>>363152
Nice try Suju stan, but 20-something Leeteuk hitting on 14-year old Yoona and Krystal is not just SJWs being loud, it's creepy no matter how you try to spin it.

If it was, say, Heechul grabbing Irene's waist it'd clearly be a case of RV stans overreacting, but since Leeteuk is always fucking creepy it's natural to be suspicious of whether Irene allowed him to touch her or not. It's not a vendetta against old people, it's a vendetta against creeps.

No. 363167

Thoughts?


He needs to get a new mic, the audio sounds like shit.

No. 363168

>>363167
His voice is too tragic for any mics to help it

No. 363169

>>363166
So you're saying Heechul can touch girls, but Leeteuk can't?
Beside, its choreography - of course she allowed it. Dont act like she's 20 or something

No. 363170

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anons in this thread who said that they don't like the absolute masterpiece that is idol are just ignorant about korean and south african culture and you guys just don't understand how deep and genius it is..

No. 363171

>>363155
>scoops a hunchback
Well they’re not wrong

No. 363172

>>363152
ah yes, making jokes about being obsessed with yoona when she was 13 and planning to marry her isnt creepy at ALL its just those darn netizens!!11 and since yoona joked about it too its perfectly ok!!11 because victims of sexual assault/abuse/harrassment dont EVER make light of the situation or joke around about it as a cope or because they're raised in a society that completely ignores females who are victims of said incidents and pretends its not even a thing

No. 363173

>>363172
I’m guessing you guys have never watched those Korean variety shows where fat men in their 40s will kiss girls that are practically toddlers.

Age gaps are not considered controversial in Korea and a grown man “waiting” to marry a girl once she’s legal is commonly accepted. It’s just like when western fans act appalled by sexist behaviour even though variety show hosts will literally hit female idols on their heads repeatedly during broadcasts both in Korea and Japan.

>2:55

>Ye Eun literally has to pull the child away from the host
>3:15 he goes to kiss her again, ye eun covers her mouth

No. 363174

>>363173
Anon, just because it's normalized there doesn't make it not fucked up?

No. 363175

>>363174
Do you think anyone is implying it’s okay? We’re clearly all in agreement here. But you could spend all day trying to single out specific Korean men when it’s clearly a widespread cultural issue.

No. 363176

>>363173
Age gap is okay if both people are adults. This example is so bad and have nothing to do with this discussion

No. 363177

>>363151
wena nido

No. 363178

>>363153
Do you have something more interesting to talk about then? Funny how you all keep whining about how the earliest threads were so much better than this but you keep coming back here even when you know this thread is heavily invested with jealous newfags. You could have just started a new topic or something, it's not like those so-called annoying topics are gonna last all thread. Plus the earliest threads weren't that better anyway, there were obvious attempts of fangirling and such.

No. 363179

>>363144
She had the same terrified/blank expression on during the majority of pd48.

No. 363180

>>363153
And i was talking about her blank expression not the nasolabial folds since anon above me mentioned about the awkwardness
>less about the lines and more about the awkwardness
I wasn't the one talking about her folds, and why do i have to explain myself it's lolcow dammit. Don't get so butthurt over silly things.

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>>363171
honestly i don't think his issue is that he's ugly, just pledis keeps forcing the same pretty boy with lip tint makeup on him that they put on every other member and it really does not work at all. his features are too masculine as opposed to someone like pic related.

No. 363182

>>363175
Implying? That was a whole justification, don't act coy.

No. 363183

>>363181
I think Scoop is kind of hot in an uggo way. I really can't explain it, but the lip tints and such really highlight how ghoulish he looks, it's terrible.

No. 363184

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his new forehead is too small

No. 363185

This is crazy

No. 363186

>>363184
is this the first botched kpop hair implant surgery?

No. 363187

>>363173
almost all asian men are pedo freaks and it doesnt make it any more ok
theres nothing ok about someone 18+ fantasizing about fucking/marrying/doing basically anything with a damn 13 year old

No. 363188

>>363187
oh no we aren't going Anti-asian thread now are we?

No. 363189

>>363187
Shut up!! This is the anti kpop thread not the Anti Asian Thread. You are so fucking annoying.

No. 363190

>>363184 who is that?

No. 363191

>>363188
>>363189
good god it was one reply thats actually completely related to the post in question

No. 363192

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>>363184
He really did have a big forehead but his new implants look ridiculous. Also it is save to bleach fresh haur implants?

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>>363184

Looks like doll's hair.

No. 363194

>>363182
>>363187
You guys are insane if you thought anyone was justifying anything. I have not seen a single person in this thread say that was ok nor did I make any attempt to imply that (it’s not acceptable under any circumstance wtf). That post was critical of the social behaviour demonstrated on public broadcasts, it’s literally backing up your point of culturally accepted sexism being an issue in South Korea, hence why some anons are concerned about certain men and the repercussions on the women around them.

Critical discussions don’t always require oversimplified complaints like:
>muh men are fucking creeps gross
>korean idols r disgusting

Sometimes you can just add to the conversation as an extension of a topic. Same reason I’ve seen other anons bring up that show where callers ask for advice on personal issues and unfortunately the guests often spew toxic bullshit at them instead of being any sort of real help, because it’s a symptom of a wider problem in Korea.

No. 363195

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>>363184
>>363192
His new hairline here looks fairly decent though? So what happened between then and now? That recent pic looks…like garbage

No. 363196

>>363195
isn't this picture a couple years old? was definitely before his hair transplant, so that's shopped lul

No. 363197

>>363194
>>363191
>>363189
>>363188
>>363187
Knock it off with the infighting. Take you bullshit elsewhere if you can't stay on topic.

No. 363198

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>>363184
You sure that ain't shopped? I found another photo of his forehead and it doesn't look like that

No. 363199

>>363196
Did some searching and it is an old pic from 2017 lmao for some reason ratmies were talking about it a few days ago and i thought it was new

No. 363200

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hmm maybe he didn't get a hair transplant

No. 363201

"YoU'rE OuR pReSeNt" cringe

I'm suprised bts fans didn't start a shitstorm about this unless they did and I'm just out of the loop

No. 363202

>>363198
you could be right, fansites are known for bad shooping

No. 363203

File: 1548301249518.gif (4.96 MB, 350x350, download.gif)

creepy fucker

No. 363204

>>363203
how do these bitches tolerate that after buying a shit ton of albums to get in. I would've punched this bitch so hard, it'd have fixed his whole damn face.

no way in hell would i put up with that - even if i was brainwashed.

No. 363205

>>363204
You underestimate the limits fangirls do

No. 363206

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>>363203
this isnt creepy, its just sad because its obvious he cant see her and has to get a closer look to even know whats in front of him

No. 363207

>>363191
Lmao i hope those dimwits realize its impossible to criticize kpop without considering the nation's culture. Plus it was totally relevant to the topic.

No. 363208

>>363207
its because this thread has loosely become a kpop "fan" thread instead of a kpop critical thread, so even if someone is posting critiques here there seems to be a ton of "not ALL koreans" apologists in here anytime anything critical of korea as a whole comes up even though its directly related to the kpop industry

No. 363209

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>>363203
Imagine looking at him up close

No. 363210

>>363209
I would have nightmares for the rest of my life

No. 363211

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>>363201
Some Armys are so desperate for western approval that everytime their oppas interact with anyone from the US they jump with joy. The don't care if is a C lister singer like Halsey.

No. 363212

>>363184
he looks like a 50 year old drag queen. never understood what armys see in him that makes them go "he's the most handsome man in the world!!", some others in bts look better if you ask me but they don't look like a fujo's wet dream so they aren't as popular

No. 363213

>>363194
i lost brain cells reading those anon's posts. how could anyone think your post was supporting those creepy korean men?

>that was a whole justification

"whole justification" - this is why we dont want fucking dumb spergs from twitter here

No. 363214

>>363204
She got into the signing BECAUSE she likes bts, of course she doesn't mind you sperg

No. 363215

>>363213
She obviously wrote that long response to take the heat off the Suju creep because she likes them.

No. 363216

>>363194
Not surprising. This thread is less “critical” about Kpop and more about sperging out about groups or idols you don’t like.

No. 363217

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>>363186
Lmao nope, Minho did it first.

No. 363218

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BTS' house retard will make his solo debut soon, can't wait for him to wail like he's being castrated while trying to hit high notes

No. 363219

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Sometimes off in this picture

No. 363220

>>363218
>self-composed
this is going to be a goldmine. don't understand why they gave him the first solo out of all the vocalists tho

No. 363221

>>363220
It's not like a proper solo I think, just a single. Maybe it'll have an MV but I don't know whether he'll promote it or anything.

Regardless it will be a fucking trainwreck.

No. 363222

>>363218
i'm ready for some bland acoustic ballad with vocals that sound like white noise

No. 363223

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>>363219
Scoups looks like Grimes' long lost brother

No. 363224

File: 1548355951660.gif (3.64 MB, 480x468, 1523739613113.gif)

>>363218
>It's another episode of "ARMY wants to talk shit about her least favorite BTS member but she doesn't want her twitter friends to know she isn't uwu ot7 so she comes in this thread and posts something no one but ARMYs would care about"

You know, if it was an actual MV I could get behind discussing it but a fucking twitter video? You bitches are obsessed.

No. 363225

>>363224

this thread is for criticizing, not for "haters only"

No. 363226

>>363215
Why are you so paranoid. I only ever stanned girl groups and that was many years ago (probably gave myself away with that WG clip from 10 years ago).

>>363216
Yeah most posts are either about (1) a specific member of x group being "ugly" (usually they look fine or it's a purposely unflattering shot), which begs the question why one would care so much about a random idol's facial features if not because they're invested either as fans or "antis" (forgive the term but you know what I mean)

(2) x idol is gay, lesbian, hates the opposite sex, or is autistic around the opposite sex, or is stupid for being caught dating or choosing to publicly date

If you deviate from calling out specific idols for any of these reasons then it's totally off topic, don't bother discussing the wider issues of plastic surgery in SK just laugh at how every female idol has the same face over and over again, don't point out any systemic problems within the entertainment industy because anon only wants to bitch about x company or x group, any comparisons are off topic. Like fuck off.

No. 363227

>>363225
and where was OP criticizing and not being a hater exactly with that post? please enlighten me dear anon.

>>363226
There have been a few interesting, original discussions about the industry in a bunch of threads but they ALWAYS get drowned out by shit like >>363211 and it's obvious that it's some ESL dumbass stan that is fed up that twitter's hated kpop group of the week isn't the one they hate.
Of course you need to have some certain level of investment on the topic to be able to discuss it but these anons just refuse to hide their power level and frankly I don't see why they would have to come here to make those posts they do. Literally just badly disguised stan speak.(Derailing)

No. 363228

>>363213
Are you for real? I wasn't using "whole" in the stan twitter language, I was using it synonymously with entire, because it was an entire piece about how her idol wasn't a creep, every man in Korea's a creep (which isn't necessarily wrong, it is a culture thing, but the entire thing felt like a justification for Leeteuk's actions: as in 'he's not bad, he's just raised that way :(')
>>363194
The complaints aren't unfounded, anon. And most of us KNOW that's its a cultural thing, I just question why you brought it up again. It seemed as if it was a way to defend Leeteuk as >>363215 said. We all know it's a wider issue there, we were just talking about the specifics instances of that idol as we routinely DO in these threads.

No. 363229

>>363181
I think that’s joshua.

No. 363230

>>363228
I don't even know the specifics about Leeteuk. I know nothing about him other than he's from Suju. My knowledge of the group is limited to that 'sorry, sorry' song they had forever ago. I wouldn't have even remembered his name had you guys not brought him up.

>I just question why you brought it up again, It seemed as if it was a way to defend Leeteuk


Already answered that for you:
>Sometimes you can just add to the conversation as an extension of a topic

Anyways I won't make any more posts on this subject because I don't want to derail but you guys need to chill or else this thread will become an actual echochamber if you're getting paranoid over anons that agree with you in the first place.

No. 363231

>>363229
>as opposed to someone like pic related

No. 363232

>>363227
i don't contribute that much but honestly the most annoying posts are about how (anti)armys have come here and ruined everything and it's brought up in every fucking thread, aren't you tired of derailing? why can't everybody just post whatever they want, nobody stops you from having deep conversations about the true nature of kpop industry or whatever

No. 363233

>>363226
>>363227
>>363232
now you guys are complaining about complaining and theres no discussions happening

No. 363234

>>363218
Do you guys think the reason bts is producing so much solo work is because big hit is going to debut a new group soon..so bts are going to disband soon and want to secure a future for themselves?

No. 363235

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Looks like a lace front tbh

No. 363236

>>363233
Technically they’re discussing the current state of the threads.

Anyway, why are some idols so poorly dressed in comparison to other members in their groups? Do their stylists hate them?

No. 363237

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>>363236
i randomly remembered this irene's outfit (even tho she's not usually poorly dressed, it's just bad).

No. 363238

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>>363235
SM idols always have the worst wigs/extensions and I don't understand why.

>>363236
I mean that's kind of subjective. I remember Lisa stans always throwing a fit about her outfits for a while but I think I recall her saying she liked her them? Anyway, I don't think any stylist have a serious vendetta against their clients lol

No. 363239

>>363238
holy kek is that sunny? how long ago was this?

No. 363240

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>>363236
Kpop groups have centers and visuals, people they want to stand out more than the others. But, most of the times it's because the stylist has no fucking fashion sense whatsoever and one member just gets lucky.

No. 363241

>>363219
Why do they all have the same whack style. They look like clones.

No. 363242

I heard >>363236
stylist tend to dress the least popular members in the ugliest outifts for whatever reasons

No. 363243

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>>363240
Blackpink's stylist are fucking shitty. They cut up expensive/beautiful pieces and call it fashion. Bonus: they hate Lisa.

No. 363244

>>363239

This photo is from 2015

No. 363245

>>363241
the really do. Don't get me started on the awards shows where idols have to wear all black and the female idols almost always arrive in tennis skirts.

No. 363246

>>363243
They probably hate her because she's not korean kek

No. 363247

>>363239
yeah, that was during party so 2015.
>>363243
>Bonus: they hate Lisa.
again with this meme. don't believe the instagram stans.

No. 363248

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You guys can't have a discussion about terrible outifts without mentioning nct

No. 363249

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>>363247
Anon, look at the shit they put her in

ik it's a meme but you cannot tell me they don't hate her ass kek

No. 363250

>>363248
im- is this legit? Kpop companies must really love sticking several identities onto idols during promotions.

No. 363251

>>363243
>>363249
Can you jpeg some more please? Where in the world do you find these

No. 363252

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>>363248
It's a rite of passage for SM idols I believe.
>>363249
..That's literally what her sponsor (Celine) gave her.
I think Jennies wrinkled Chanel dress and Jisoo's bulky blazer are worse. Again, this is subjective.

No. 363253


No. 363254

>>363234
yes. suga and jungkook have been vocal about being insecure for their individual futures.

No. 363255

>>363252
Wait I actually liked SHINee's outfits during Juliette era… But yeah it seems like every single sm group has a fashion terrorist as their stylist

No. 363256

>>363248
I unironically like a lot of NCT's outfits, I just think they look like really out there manga designs and I can respect that.

No. 363257

>>363234
That's not unique to BTS, though. Look at EXO's solo activities, GOT7's or even Shinee's back then, just to name a few BGs.

No. 363258

>>363243
Someone out there definitely hates Lisa, just look at her outfits in the DDU-DU DDU-DU MV.

No. 363259

>>363243
their stylists are trying harder to make them look expensive than fashionable. i like rose's look in the pic though

No. 363260

>>363259
that's definitely true. YG is known for flexing

No. 363261

>>363247
Koreans really do hear SEAs though

No. 363262


No. 363263

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So JYP is gonna debut three more groups in the next two years. Isn't too much?

No. 363264

>>363263
no because idol fans are getting stupider and stupider. they don't care about anything except buying things so it makes sense to cash in on that.

No. 363265

>>363263 I feel bad for whatever group ends up not being an instant hit bc they're gonna get tossed aside and locked in jyp's dungeon.

No. 363266

Did anybody discuss this already?

No. 363267

>>363263
apparently one of the groups is going to be another korean girl group. seems kinda weird to debut another girl group so quickly but it'll probably just be a group like twice

No. 363268

>>363219
This some shit you see out the corner of your eye when you got sleep paralysis
I really need these fucking stylists to stop putting red eye makeup on top of these too pale foundations
>>363263
Does JYP realize that money isn't infinite no matter how big of a company they are? I mean Twice makes them a decent amount of money, along with like their 3 other groups, but where is the money to debut 5 groups coming from?

No. 363269

https://twitter.com/soft2seok/status/1088585279949152258

this isn't kpop per se but what the hell

No. 363270

>>363269
WHAT THE FUCK

No. 363271

>>363269
>husband keeps touching and kissing his 5 year old private parts even when the child express he doesn't want it
Welp, I knew Hello counselor was a shit show but making comedy out of pedophilia is just too much.

No. 363272

>>363269

tHEY REALLY SITTING THERE ACTING LIKE IT'S NOTHING

He should be reported and arrested, not made to seem like a comedian. This is sick

No. 363273

>>363269
Well that was hard to watch

No. 363274

>>363269
That show is fucking garbage. Why the fuck are they joking around about clear child abuse/paedophilia? That nigga needs to go to jail and get his ass beat. Why is that show still on the air? They're not professionals and their advice is shitty. Half of those cases on Hello Counselor need real professionals and law enforcement involved not a bunch of washed up comedians and botched idols joking around about serious issues and giving half assed advice smh

No. 363275

>>363269

Why is everybody laughing? A guy touching his kid for 10 minutes is sexual abuse. I hope someone helps that poor boy.

No. 363276

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No. 363277

>>363269
this made me physically ill.

apparently a bunch of kpop fans on twitter are contacting the channel that airs this mess of a show. i'm glad they are doing something nice and productive for once.

No. 363278

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i don't know why SM is known for their visuals when they have monsters like these… not to mention the boy groups of years past

No. 363279

>>363269
sage for OT
Honestly that show is just hard to watch in general, they make light of some actually serious topics instead of helping, and the hosts sometimes sympathise with or play devil's advocate for some really questionable people. I remember seeing one clip on YouTube of a son who says he doesn't think his dad loves him, with his dad fully admitting to prefer one child over another. It just feels so wrong seeing real problems made into light "entertainment"

No. 363280

>>363269
"He's old fashioned"
Ew what? More like predatory. Did anyone in the audience question why he's diddling his kid for 10 minutes? Just because he's publicly announcing it as if it's no big deal doesn't mean he's innocent.

No. 363281

>>363266
holy shit

No. 363282

>>363266
Lmao I remember when Tiffany's livejournal got leaked

No. 363283

>>363269
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

No. 363284

>>363269
>They like it for a bit…

I don't even know what to say

No. 363285

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>>363269
The hosts literally laughed after the father said this. None of them thought that it's creepy or realized that this was an unnecessary thing to say, I mean it didn't explain why he had that moronic habit in the first place. What a backward society.

No. 363286

>>363269
He also likes to "prank" his children by doing things like hitting them for no reason and throwing nasty socks at them because he likes to see them cry and also basically sexually harrasses the mom :/

No. 363287

>>363269
I found the whole episode if any one is curious. It's really worse than that 2 min twitter video makes it seem. The kid is terrified of the dad and cries when he has to sleep with him.

No. 363288

>>363287
Mother of fucking GOD what the actual fuck is wrong with these people?! How could these sick fucks LAUGH at a little kid being sexually abused by their own fucking father?! This shit is sick on so many levels, the police should have been called imminently and this sick fuck should never be allowed around children ever again.

No. 363289

>>363269
Oh my god as someone who also had an abusive father this made me feel fucking sick. That fucker literally openly told them what he's done but even if he didn't everything about how he and his son acts screams red flag as well. How the fuck do you talk about this on a national program? He is so obviously abusive, said what he's done himself and this is how these so-called counsellors react? That child couldn't even talk or look at people and said that he hates it and they can't even see how fucked up it is? I really hope some Korean lawyer in their mind sues them and an actual therapist helps the boy

I remember seeing some other clips from the show, there was another teenage girl who talked about how she was getting beaten by her father and literally no one took it seriously, it was edited with these dumb texts and effects Korean shows use. What the fuck is wrong with this show? I understand making a lighthearted show with people who have basic dumb problems but seeing domestic abuse victims and people with mental illnesses treated like this is just disgusting. It's sickening that domestic abuse towards kids seems so normalized

No. 363290

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>>363278
This four look like clones.

No. 363291

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/kai-jennie-breakup-dating
sm confirmed that kai and jennie broke up

No. 363292

>>363287
This is dystopian as fuck, it's literally like the shows in One Million Merits or whichever that Black Mirror episode is called. I'm gonna assume he got inspired by this kind of show. Really horrific how they are laughing about abuse, and all the cute silly stuff on the screen despite the topic

No. 363293

>>363291
lmao this shit was obvious PR from the start

No. 363294

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>>363291
I found this one under that news. Seriously they need to stop with the whole uwu baby fantasy. It's sick af. He's 26.

No. 363295

>>363292
Same poster, if you ignore the dumb animations and keep watching, actually 60% of the audience look shocked and disappointed as all the awful things he does keep rolling in, (20 minutes so far) and he even lies right on camera about how he "helps" her. Plus the hosts are disapproving of everything. So it is not as bad as it first looks (and they even introduce a member of government or something from Singapore who disapproves too.

This guy is super abusive, even making her clean while heavily pregnant, every thing he does is awful. Sexually harassing and groping her and even his own mother. Someone needs to beat some sense into him. The "kissing" his son while he is held down for 10 minutes is mighty concerning. It is ok because "they are mine". Like wife and child are toys to do whatever he wants with.

Overall, terrible but at least she could put this on tv and tell everyone

No. 363296

>>363293
Jennie is going to top brand rankings again because of the buzz the breakup will generate.

Their management probably did this after seeing that nobody gave a shit about them dating - no angry blinks, no mad EXO-Ls (the possessive ones left around the Krystal era), no pressed media.

No. 363297

>>363296
i was looking at exo-l and blinks' tweets and some of them think they might've been forced to break up because of knets and dispatch but idk

No. 363298

>>363269
This is sickening. I knew that they laughed off abuse, but I didn't think they would do it even with sexual abuse and pedophilia.
I see kpop fans have made a #endhellocounselor hashtag, but aren't they all international fans? I'd really like to know what actual Koreans think of this.

No. 363299

>>363294
This squishy baby narrative infantilizing these idols is so creepy. I doubt anybody would refer to an American guy in his 20s-30s as a ~smol chubby whiny lil baby owo~

This whole perfect idol thing has made these fans forget these guys are real adults, who likely do messy adult shit. The "he's so qt lil baby" image they use to protect themselves from this isn't going to change anything.

No. 363300

>>363299
Everything about the the uwu lil baby thing makes me gag. It also doesn't help that they write fanfics that seem to have underlying pedo themes (they seem to force said themes on Jungkook which is disturbing as heck.)

No. 363301

>>363300
i understand all the babying if the idol is a minor or has a genuinely childish personality (doubt) but it's even weirder when it's with someone like chanyeol (the guy is like 6'1" for fuck's sake) or jungkook who are both bulked up adult men

No. 363302

Whenever I scroll past that OP, I keep thinking that if they were non-korean celebrities everybody would have written them off as druggies already (which they likely are). But because they're precious k-dols they're so "woke, yas, slay, queen&king, couple goals,…".

Same with >>363294
Even if a let's say american celebrity would be a decade younger than Chanyeol people would already say he's either a pussy or rude/entitled for making a fuss about something so minor.

In the twitter thread of that hello counselor pedo scandal the top tweets are all saying "it's not a cultural thing". Yes it is! Why is it so difficult to grasp that Korea is a less than ideal country, that there are many bad koreans and that nobody does shit about that?! Parents beating their children, husbands/bfs beating their female partners, kids commiting suicide en masse either because of academic pressure or unimaginable bullying (not just namecalling, they're literally trying to beat classmates to death) has been rampant for decades already, and yet society always turns a blind eye to these issues. They don't give a fuck about their own people, and even less about some dirty foreign k-drama or music fans. But try explaining to a kboo that their Oppas are not innocent and soft and so much more gentle than the boys in their countries. "Koreans are kind, they respect elders and help each other!"…
Making fun of idols and their orbiters kind of stopped being funny; it's just sad.

No. 363303

>>363302
There's a variety of reasons why people will never accept that Korea is less than ideal because 1) they're afraid of being called racist, xenophobic or whatever the fuck is the new popping word at the moment 2) they're a koreaboo who doesn't want to admit or see that their fairy tale land is not what has been marketed to them through the korean media they have consumed 3) pride in believing that the thing they support (kpop or korean media) is woc and therefore can do no wrong, aka sjws who believe their gay trans bois are fighting the system even though they're just a bunch of marketing tools 4) they're fucking stupid or they actually don't care and just want their Kpop fix.

No. 363304

>>363293
It really looks like they did that in order to hide a potential Irene dating scandal.

No. 363305

>>363301
i dont see what being bulked up has to do with it, and trust me, they do it to all of them, they are all adult men, and it's equally gagworthy

No. 363306

>>363305
They look like normal adult men and nothing like a child

No. 363307

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homegirl looking like a fish

No. 363308

>>363290
not really, no

No. 363309

File: 1548437591178.gif (4.56 MB, 320x388, 928131ee399b2cad3cc979b01adcd2…)

what the actual fuck was going on with his hand

No. 363310

>>363307
ive been a huge fan of hyuna for years, but i can admit i havent been diggin her appearance since triple h began. one of the main things that i cant stand is the way she wears lipstick now. she just smears it around and goes over her cupids bow as if she applied it in the dark. i know she is going for the dead/heroine chic look but it just does not suit her. the only time it did was during the now promotions with trouble maker. her hair has been an absolute tragedy and she needs to stop going back and forth from bleaching it and darkening it cause she is balding. and the whole thing with the scale pic, the ig pics/lives of her eating high calorie foods, saying shes gaining weight, just seems like bs to me. she is looking like a damn skeleton these days. her face has been so sunken in and her arms and legs are sticks. shes always been fit and thin, but she just looks ana tier now. this all makes me wonder if she is just struggling mentally from being kicked out of cube, or if she is trying to rebel from the clean and sexy image they pushed her in all these years. its probably both tbh.

No. 363311

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No. 363312

>>363309
Wait is he bleeding?

No. 363313

>>363309
>>363312
Yes. But this is old, it has been posted before.
And poor baby Jungkook survived this brutal injury, so let's not freak out…

No. 363314

File: 1548442108472.gif (1.55 MB, 352x250, 05043932901938.gif)

>>363313
Idk what it is but it looks pretty weird. Makes me remember of Daehwi's ear starting to bleed during a performance and it was cause by his earbuds or something like that. Some other members reacted immediately when they noticed it which is shocking for k-pop

No. 363315

>>363309
What is going on with that guy's eyes in the background?

No. 363316

>>363315
He's trying to be sexy

No. 363317

>>363314
Which members reacted, I can't tell in that small gif?

No. 363318

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>>363269
Imagine if this was on American TV. They would’ve arrested this guy on air. I don’t understand why they would have people with no education on these kinds of topics to give advice.

No. 363319

>>363304
What dating scandal?

No. 363320

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Top kek V was left out some shitty tribute video and now armies are throwing a hissy fit and saying that big hit has some vendetta against the autist.

No. 363321

>>363304
if you ask westerners the "scandal" they're hiding is apparently irene being a lesbian, possibly with jennie lmao

seeing so many people project their weird "irene hates men and is a proud feminist/misandrist" fantasies onto her now and its getting really annoying

No. 363322

>>363318
man it's not like you need to be educated on the topic to know that this is fucked up. i'm pretty sure 90% of the people outraged right now aren't educated experts which just baffles me like is everyone on that show retarded and/or soulless???

No. 363323

>>363302
>>363303

Basically this, Koreans are the new fetishized ethnicity and give crazy stans an outlet to dehumanize idols as they please so even implying that there is fault in their culture will get you dragged by kboos, if the twitter didn't make that statement kpop stans would swarm her calling her racist or something (not even mentioning the child or subject at hand that was abused) and clearly this is an apparent issue in the kpop fandom that no one wants to talk about.

Then again once kpop's international appeal dies out they'll mass exodus to anything similar that gains traction and see the same thing again.

No. 363324

>>363298
koreans on naver seem as disgusted as international fans about this

No. 363325

>>363291
That relationship was so weird. Almost PR.

No. 363326

Her voice is so gratting. She looks super pretty with blonde hair and dark eyebrows though

No. 363327

>>363321
What I read is that Irene is supposedly with an actor much older than her.

No. 363328

>>363326
Kek does she not know what enunciation is?

No. 363329

>>363328

If Ariana Grande doesn't, why should she

No. 363330

>>363326
This is so boring and generic, I almost fell asleep.

No. 363331

are hyuna and edawn just attention whoring or are they actually on drugs?

No. 363332

>>363331
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's just their ~edgy aesthetic~

No. 363333

>>363326
I like her personality and root for her because she's been through a lot with her family, but she always sings like she's got something stuck in her throat.

No. 363334

>>363331
it's just the rich korean hipster aesthetic that all of them are doing over there rn

No. 363335

>>363330
I kinda agree but I think the beginning sounds nice.

No. 363336

>>363326
Who directed this and why does she look like a cringy ghost?

>>363329
This actually reminded me of Ariana. She said love me harder at 1:06, which is an Ariana song. And honestly this sounds like a dangerous woman reject.

No. 363337

>>363336

kek at Dangerous Woman reject. Tiffany is so fucking cringey, idk who told her she looked good trying to be sexy but it just doesn't work. I truly think she should have just gone the irrelevant MC/show host route instead of trying to make some sort of an American solo singing career for herself.

Am I the only one who has realized that the GP doesn't even respect the so-called 'legendary' SNSD anymore. All of this time, I thought they were 'legendary' to the public for songs like Gee, Oh!, RDR, Genie, etc, but I guess the recent comments towards SNSD members in their solo ventures reflect the attitudes towards girl group members after their time is up. They're no longer the "Nation's Little Sisters" or whatever gross peso shit they can come up with to infantilize them. The only member who gets positive comments is Yoona but she's nowhere near the level of fame in the public eye that people (Sones) thought she'd have years ago.

And I apologize if this is all irrelevant, but girl groups truly have the shortest shelf-life, no matter how fans try to make excuses, "Oh, they're still popular!" AOA has fucking tanked since Heart Attack, EXID kinda died after Ah Yeah, Girl's Day was popular for like a year maybe. It's basically a known fact at this point that being an idol is just being a puppet for years and then being left with no education (except if you "study" Acting or Music at some "university" like they all do kek). BP and Twice fans act as if they've surpassed 2NE1 or SNSD, which were far more influential in their time, and yet 2NE1 and SNSD don't have the longevity of solo careers afterward. Twice already has that same pedo-bait image, and once a scandal breaks out, or when they've gotten too old, they're done for, unless they somehow pull an APink and keep trudging on, but idk. Seems like 3rd Gen Kpop fans don't realize that this is gonna be their idol's reality soon.

No. 363338

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I dig this song but I lose my shit every time I watch the video. Sorry if this was covered before.

No. 363339

>>363338
what video anon?

No. 363340

>>363338
I meant to sage this, sorry.
>>363339
Lip and Hip by Hyuna

No. 363341

>>363338
Nta but Here's the video is anyone is curious

No. 363342

>>363341
it's sad that even though she looks disgusting in this, she still looks better than current day

No. 363343

>>363342
Yeah, this song showed up in my youtube recommendations and I was shocked by how she looks compared to her Bubble Pop days (I never followed her obv). Now I'm curious what she looks like if 2017 is good compared to today.

No. 363344

>>363341
Unrelated but why does her voice sound so different from 00:53 to 1:05?

No. 363345

File: 1548550279715.png (525.74 KB, 507x598, Capture.PNG)

>>363343
here you go

No. 363346

>>363345
How is it possible that she looks worse and worse every time I see her?

No. 363347

>>363344
Sounds good to me. If that's really her singing voice she needs to stick to singing Her rapping voice is real grating on the ears.

No. 363348

>>363337
It is a weird feeling to see that snsd is pretty much like..not even a thing amongst kpop fans anymore.
They were THE biggest girl group and everyone considered them the nations gg even(except for fans of male groups that thought the girls got too close to their oppas) and now they basically arent even acknowledged. Its almost sad in a way even though Im not a fan. It really shows how fast time goes go by and things change. But kpop is weird now anyway. Seems like Twice is really being pushed as the new nations GG, and they have non korean members and were formed on a talent show. Really just weird.

No. 363349

>>363348
Wait for a few more years and Twice will be as irrelevant as SNSD is now

No. 363350

>>363348
I believe TWICE's popularity is going to gradually fall soon especially due to IZ*ONE which seems to be really popular due to PD48 and seems to cater to the same crowd as TWICE. Also because their contracts are like 2.5 years long instead of just 1 like Wanna One or IOI.

No. 363351

File: 1548573543677.png (857.18 KB, 719x734, hyuna p nation.png)

well, looks like it happened.

No. 363352

>>363348
It happens. TVXQ are still selling 100,000 seat Japanese concerts, but they aren't the fad that they were anymore. Their last Korean comeback didn't even chart. Big Bang has been overtaken by BTS, and in the future some other boygroup will overtake BTS.

>Seems like Twice is really being pushed as the new nations GG

All they have now are rabid Japanese fans tbh, their title tracks haven't had that universal public appeal like TT or Cheer Up did. They're Kara 2.0 basically.

No. 363353

>>363351
What a tragic decision, Psy will regret this as soon as he sees loud Twitter stans won't buy their albums

No. 363354

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This isn't suprising at all.

No. 363355

>>363354
That's fucked, has he gone on to get any dodgy surgeries? because if that's what happens then no wonder no one has their old face in sm

No. 363356

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>>363354
That’s so sad. Not to be a stan but I’ve always found him as the most handsome member of exo. I don’t think he’s had any big surgery to fix himself up tho. If you see his pre debut pictures, you kind of get it. SM recruiters really do see diamonds in the rough.

No. 363357

My Kpop prediction: Hyuna gets in a big drug scandal or she breaks up with that zombie of a boyfriend and her career goes to shit

No. 363358

>>363356
Yeah he looks pretty much the same from then to now. Some people say he got very minor ps done on his nose but I'm not so sure

No. 363359

IZONE released a new song which sounds like outdated trash from AKB

But then again I guess Japanese market digs this.

No. 363360

>>363354
Source?

No. 363361

>>363348
kpop grew so much though. It's not so that people forgot about snsd more that there are now so many new people post-bts that never knew about gen2.

No. 363362

>>363360
Its from his gq magazine interview for the feb 2019 issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/eternallyixing/status/1089197605551169537?s=21

No. 363363

>>363360
>>363362

Same fag but here is the actual interview source. https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/0So5sKS0ez880HZpihAM_g its in chinese though

No. 363364

>>363354
It’s no wonder idols end up mentally fucked when they’re treated like this.

No. 363365

>>363357
The only reason Hyuna is still relevant is because of Edawn and his fans from when he was in Pentagon. If Hyuna breaks up with Edawn his fans will drop her immediately.

No. 363366

>>363359
The only groups AKS actually care
about are the 46 groups and it really shows. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was a left over from one of the other 48/46 groups.

No. 363367

>>363365
its s the opposite most of edawns fans left him after the dating scandal and even other members fan sites closed down hyunas fanbase was largely unaffected

No. 363368

>>363351
Hyuna and E'Druggie look like two crackheads you'd find infront of the popeyes on 3rd avenue in the bronx begging for money for their kids to eat (even though there are no kids insight) and then get snarky and upset when you buy them food instead of give them money.

No. 363369

>>363354
Not surprising. I think most professions in Korea do this and its really fucked. You have to send in model like photos when applying for jobs at a damn grocer unless you are related to or friends with the owner lol. Its sad though for sure.

No. 363370

File: 1548607158144.png (15.83 KB, 796x121, Stella Kim.PNG)

>>363354
a trainee who almost got into SNSD, Stella Kim, had something similar to say about the bodyshaming that goes on at SM

https://nextshark.com/stella-kim-snsd-interview/

No. 363371

>>363365

It’s amazing how wrong you are in just two sentences.

No. 363372

>>363365

It’s amazing how wrong you are in just two sentences.

No. 363373

>>363365
Lol what? Edawn fan detected. She's waaayyyy more famous than he is. He's a nugu to sk.

No. 363374

Hyuna was very famous, and for sure is more famous than E'dawn - but let's face it, it's all gone now. her career is over. fake twt stans don't count
I hope they'll disappear. I like psy but he's stupid if he thinks that they will do anything

No. 363375

>>363374
Not really. If they release a catchy song, people will like it.

No. 363376

>>363373
Nugu internationally too.

No. 363377

>>363373
his only achievement is being hyuna's boyfriend

No. 363378

>>363375
They might like the song but will they buy the album?

No. 363379

>>363378
no one buys albums in korea anymore except for 13 year old girls so its not important if they're separating themselves from the idol world

No. 363380

>>363379
But the 13 year old girls' money is what most companies are chasing. Lots of artists who do well digitally, like Melomance or Bol4 or Ailee, are only as relevant as their last hit song. They likely won't make much money from songs alone. The only real way to make any money is through CF deals, album sales, and concerts - all of which only artists with a fandom get to have.
I doubt Hyuna's druggie image is landing her any CF deals and she was never a beauty like Sulli (who continues to land deals on her looks alone) and her last song barely charted. I don't want her to fail but let's be realistic, her time in the spotlight is almost over.

No. 363381

>>363379
i thought the albums sells in sk were mostly from middle aged men and women bulk buying to get into fansigns

No. 363382

File: 1548622364946.png (1.28 MB, 1162x784, Screen Shot 2019-01-27 at 3.49…)

Jimin from AOA straight up looks like a skeleton

No. 363383

>>363381
definitely not middle aged men. older women, sure but they're still a small audience.
>>363380
there's korean pop music outside of the idol world, anon

No. 363384

>>363383
don't girl groups have male sasaengs and fansites or are their fansites women too?

No. 363385

>>363382
WTF is that actually her? I feel bad for her.

No. 363386

>>363384
depends on the group, but most male fans of female idols these days are teenagers or in their early 20s

No. 363387

>>363382
wtf happened lol??

No. 363388

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>>363382
What happpened? She looks like Mary Kate Olsen.

No. 363389

>>363287
they took the video down

No. 363390

>>363389
It was predictable, they had already hidden the like/dislike ratio and the comments were ALL negative. They're doing damage control.

No. 363391

Korea expose coming through with some solid journalism on BTS misogynism

https://www.koreaexpose.com/korean-feminists-argue-kpop-stars-bts-are-misogynists/

No. 363392

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>>363391
omg those tweets…

No. 363393

>>363391
>koreaexpose.com
A new anti-korean website I can check out, thnx!

No. 363394

>>363393
There is klownisms too his rage towards the country is pretty funny but he dosen't post anymore.

https://klownisms.wordpress.com

No. 363395

>>363391
It's appalling and deceiving to have a very obvious sexist male band speak about female empowerment. I dont understand anyone who likes BTS already because only lurking these days in the past few months, there is so much evidence against them. so gross

No. 363396

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>>363382
Actually depressing because she was actually cute on unpretty rapstar and that was only like 3-4 years ago

No. 363397

>>363396
I think she's the leader so she feels like shit after her group has gone downhill without Choa, can't say I blame her

No. 363398

>>363382 where is this pic from?

No. 363399

>>363391
Oh wow this is beyond disgusting

>And its depiction of under-aged girls—who perform under the label of “idols”—has come under fire for encouraging pedophilia. A performance by Bonusbaby, a South Korean girl group, last year had members wear pink bibs while dancing to a song entitled “If I Become An Adult.” Jeon So-mi, from I.O.I., another prominent all-female K-pop group, revealed during a 2016 interview that the stage outfits they wore for some of their performances were in fact children’s clothes.

No. 363400

>>363399
I think the FBI is gonna knock my door after watching this.

No. 363401

File: 1548647268111.jpeg (72.08 KB, 350x400, higiugi.jpeg)

>>363399
Where's Chris Hansen when you need him

No. 363402

I didn't know that ARMY stands for  “Adorable Representative Master of ceremonies for Youth” before… this explains everything

No. 363403

>>363402
im sorry WHAT? why is Bighit so fucking bad at naming things?

No. 363404

>>363403
Yup.. and TXT stands for “ Tomorrow X Together,” with the "x" being read as "by. You'd think they would learn a thing or two after their huge success but no…

No. 363405

Lmao this is just too funny

>When questioned about BTS’s speech, two different spokespersons for UN Secretary-General António Guterres, who spoke at the event and launched “Generation Unlimited,” responded with “who is BTS?” and “what is BTS?” Even after hearing an explanation of who BTS was, the spokespersons continued to repeat “who is BTS?” and “what is BTS?”

No. 363406

>>363380
uh..what deals are sulli landing exactly? last i saw shes literally doing porn..

No. 363407

>>363406
she has a fashion line and a photobook that sold really well

No. 363408

>>363391
>One South Korean feminist who asked to be unnamed for this piece reached out to me privately to share her experience of being cyberbullied for publicly criticizing BTS on Twitter on the grounds that the group did nothing for the LGBTQ community in South Korea and yet used its pro-LGBTQ image as a marketing strategy to appeal to international fans.
oh my god armys need a reality check because this is the fucking truth. stan twitter turns them out to be feminist gay legends when they literally have never openly said anything about being pro-lgbt. if you actually care why aren't you speaking up for the lgbt people in your country? i was waiting for their shady shit to be called out by someone with a big influence, hope that happens

No. 363409

>>363408
b-but suga said "nothing is wrong" when he was asked if he's pro lgbt!!!!

No. 363410

>>363405
Thank fuck that guy probably doesn't have Twitter so armys can't spam him….then again I don't doubt they'll be making angry calls to the UN demanding an apology from the fucking Secretary General of the UN of all people

No. 363411

>>363410
https://www.twitter.com/KoreaExpose/status/1089515124765782019
they're all like "these are very old, they were just kids and that's just a cultural thing but they've changed a lot!! they apologized, they are not like that anymore!!" as if they didn't just start going all social justice because it's the trendy thing right now. it's not like they were 12, they were around 18-20 and knew what they were doing

No. 363412

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I think edawn looks like Steves from people just do nothing? Just an overall crackhead vibe

No. 363413

Kpop-Critical is now certified /weeb/

No. 363414

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rap monster’s english is so fucking cringy omg

No. 363415

>>363414
i have a strong feeling that he spends a lot of time on army twitter and picked up stanspeak from them

No. 363416

>>363399
I know kpop groups are desperately trying to get attention but I can't understand why anyone thought this would work.
>>363395
when have the even spoken about female empowerment anyways? the only thing I remember is that song 21st century girls but that song is just laughable.

No. 363417

>>363416
they say that rm wrote that song with a feminist professor or something like that but it has such basic lyrics, if they were trying to write a female empowerment song they could've done much better

No. 363418

File: 1548673153364.jpg (41.49 KB, 600x402, 5fe3bd053549f0889de1e399b1f18a…)

i know this has been said so many times and it doesn't add anything new to the topic but RM's face is so punchable

No. 363419

>>363398
The newest episode (ep. 436) of Running Man

No. 363420

File: 1548685701672.png (53.63 KB, 743x321, Screen Shot 2019-01-29 at 1.26…)

Ok what the fuck

No. 363421

>>363420
Woke feminist kings… they were misguided, punching women is just a cultural thing.. They are actually just criticizing the mistreatment of women within the K-pop industry here…

No. 363422

>>363418
I still cat believe that there are army’s who seriously believe that RM is attractive. I get that beauty is subjective, but dude looks like a rat and he doesn’t even have a decent enough personality to make up for it.

No. 363423

>>363411
People are really defending them like their lives depend on it by devaluing the writing and saying they were just "kids"….Yikes.

No. 363424

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it's kinda sad how much she's damaged her face, she was kinda pretty when they first came out

No. 363425

>>363424
i used to find her the prettiest member; now she’s the same brand of plastic as taeyeon and jessica.

red velvet’s visual charm (imo) was that the members all had very distinct looks from each other and stood out in their own way; nowadays wendy looks like your typical surgeyed up kpop barbie

No. 363426

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who allowed this

No. 363427

>>363391
>the following lyrics, which RM wrote: “Yeah, you’re the best woman, the best vagina / So good are you at doing it, the best vagina / But now that I think about it, you were never the best / I will stop calling you best and instead call you gonorrhea.”

Ah yes, the talented genius rapper went all out I see.
Did his feminist professor help him out with this one too?

No. 363428

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>>363424
Yeah. Starting with ICC Dr. Kim really did a number on her face. I'm guessing they were trying to lean into this "rich foreign exchange student" aura she was assigned to. The plastic surgery wasn't as obvious as it is now because of the bleached hair and overall styling (and because it was fresh) but the problem with these extreme procedures such as a jaw shave is that it requires constant maintaining which ups the risk of fucking up.
Not to armchair too much but with her fluctuating weight and plastic surgery girl seems to be very insecure. Shame because I really liked her kind look she had when she first debuted and she's undoubtedly one of the best vocalists of her generation.
>>363425
>red velvet’s visual charm (imo) was that the members all had very distinct looks from each other and stood out in their own way
Funny that you say that because literally all people would talk about during their debut was how similar they all supposedly looked.

No. 363429

What the actual fuck is this

No. 363430

>>363426
RV stylists give Seulgi the worst clothes/styling because of her "girl crush" image.

No. 363431

>>363427
So that's what he meant when he said he's gonna beat that pussy like you never ever felt before

No. 363432


No. 363433

>>363432
What is everyones thoughts on this video? It was linked in the video the anon posted and it explain the hello counsellor situation in a sort of cultural point of view.


My issue is they and other people a like keep saying that touching/playing with kids penises is normal in korean culture but why would you want something borderlining pedophilia apart of your culture in the first place…

No. 363434

>>363414
LMAO is he a 12 year old girl?

No. 363435

>>363433
It's incredibly upsetting and fucked up that someone would choose to bring a pedophile man who abuses his kids and his wife to a TV show so the audience can laugh at the situation. The mother needs to divorce him and he needs to be far away from her and the kids, perhaps in jail.
The culture stuff is just an excuse for abusers.

No. 363436

>>363062
>>363433
yes something being part of a certain culture gives it context but that does not free it from criticism.
ive noticed its mostly non-koreans pulling the culture card though lol how absolutely cucked do you have to be to be willing to excuse pedo shit for another culture just so you can continue to jerk it to your korean idols in a peaceful mindset? call me when this show gets taken off air and the man is in jail.

No. 363437

>>363436
Because then these morons would have to accept that Korea is not this happy fairy tale land that they've been spoon fed but the Korean media they consume. It honestly tells you the current climate of things when people are excusing pedo shit as "cultural" or whatever buzzword they fancy. I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread is in full agreement that this asshole needs to be thrown in jail and the show needs to be taken off the air. Now.

No. 363438

File: 1548710060819.jpg (45.93 KB, 480x640, GkjK4gajysM.jpg)

lol is his favorite artist picasso now or something

No. 363439

File: 1548710277563.jpg (95.87 KB, 470x470, xgfgfcdrdcfcfcfh.jpg)

>>363438
That feel when your oppar can't paint for shit.

No. 363440

>>363437
Its kinda funny how its considered racist to critique a certain aspect of a culture but patronizing and speaking over the people of said culture is… woke. I guess!
>>363438
Well what was his favorite artist before then, army-chan?

No. 363441

File: 1548712676231.jpg (14.55 KB, 480x480, 1499105604515.jpg)

>>363438
>some manufactured idol who is in car commercials pretending so desperately to be an artiste

No. 363442

>>363429
This is kinda old, and when I first saw it I thought it was a joke.

No. 363443

https://twitter.com/jkgoldenbunnies/status/1088832596488933378
this army is saying that bts' manager told fans that bts themselves don't want people with dslr cameras in concerts. i wonder if these rich fansites have some money beef going on with bighit because they blacklisted some of them too

No. 363444

>>363443
That is kind of weird, I wonder what the beef is.
Aren't Fansites some of the biggest cashcows for Idol groups?

No. 363445

>>363438
These dudes literally don't have an ounce of talent.

No. 363446

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>>363445
Hey, but at least he's got one of that little french artist hats! Next thing he's going to try and grow a mustache

Also, their fans always whine about them being overworked, meanwhile Oppars have time to replace every single bone in their body with plastic and make meaningless "art"…

No. 363447

Do you think with how underweight idols are, they get their periods?

No. 363448

>>363447
I doubt it. It's probably considered it a plus, the girls can wear skimpy outfits any time without periods being an issue. The men that run these agencies don't give a fuck as long as they're making money.

No. 363449

>>363446
he's been bragging about growing a beard for a while now

No. 363450

>>363428
Who is that in the picture? Don't tell me it's Wendy…

No. 363451

>>363447
Pretty sure that only happens if you're Ashley-tier. Your body doesn't just stop functioning because someone's a little underweight, hamplanet.

No. 363452

>>363447
>>363451
most idols are probably on birth control, so even if they are a healthy weight they don't have one.

No. 363453

JFC Amber just come out and say your gay, SM and Korea don't give a fuck about you anymore anyway.

No. 363454

>>363453
>surprised sm still has a contract with her.
>thought Imthe thumbnail was a guy for a sec.

No. 363456

Of all the shit that YG has been involved in, this has been one of the scummiest, most nauseating scandal that deserve to bring them down once and for all.

https://entertain.naver.com/ranking/read?oid=076&aid=0003374454

No. 363465

>>363456
Can we get some context
> can't read korean le cri

No. 363480

>>363465

The staff of Seungri's club Burning Sun are being accused of sexual assault. A video that was uploaded in late December last year has come to surface. The video is of a guard at Burning Sun dragging a struggling woman, which the video explains has been drugged by the guard and is being dragged to the VIP room. The woman can be seen trying to get help by grabbing the computer, but the staff does nothing but put the computer back.



The woman tried to report the sexual assault to the police, but the police did nothing, and Burning Sun deleted the CCTV record. The video was taken by a Burning Sun staff member before the video was deleted, and the video has been passed through many hands. Burning Sun is accused of having paid the police a large sum of money to keep things quiet and to not investigate Burning Sun. Reportedly, this kind of sexual assault happens at least twice a day at Burning Sun. There is another video where the police has admitted to violence happening at Burning Sun.

——DISTURBING VIDS——

someone tried to help the poor woman but he got beat up and arrested by the police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxKgQywuFRc&ab_channel=%EC%97%AC%EA%B8%B0%EC%9E%87%EC%8A%88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPKuKTxo3w&ab_channel=ksk487

No. 363482


No. 363483

>>363482
>>363481
>>363480
JFC that's terrible!

No. 363489


No. 363503

>>363110
Looks like the Korean Cracky-chan

No. 363511

>>363480
Twice a day? What the fucking fuck? Seungri really will just employ anybody I guess

No. 363513

>>363450
Yes it's Wendy

No. 363515

>>363480
One of the videos has already been taken down. They're really working overtime to cover this up

No. 363522

>>363351
If you saw Hyuna in Bubblepop and then saw this stuff you would've even know it's the same person.

No. 363524

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I wanted to ask, whats the big deal with (G)I-dle? No disrespect, I mean I've heard their stuff, it's okay.

But I see them being pushed everywhere and winning all these awards and I was like where the fuck did this come from?

No. 363555

>>363524
soyeon is essentially young hyuna's less sexy replacement.
she raps nearly the same and cube started pushing her extra hard after the scandal.

No. 363560

>>363524
Stan Twitter wanted a girl crush group to stan during Blackpink's hiatus + Soyeon being hyped as this badass talented rapper because she writes her own raps + their songs are the kind of sound Korea is into right now (trop house)

Personally I think they're just okay, their songs are pleasant enough to listen to.

No. 363562

File: 1548751550695.jpg (90.01 KB, 720x546, w9.JPG)

>>363480
They don't let foreign males in it either, just women.

No. 363565

>>363456
>>363480

I read another article saying a witness claims that this is something that happens at least twice A NIGHT. This is so fucking disgusting.


Also inb4 Seungris escape to the army.

No. 363580

>>363351
I'm gonna be optimistic and say after signing with Psy, they'll split and Hyuna will decide to better her appearance.

No. 363581

>>363524
They're literally just another girl group for stan twt to throw away, which I don't mind since they're all extremely boring except Soyeon.

Soyeon and her backup dancers lmao

No. 363589

>>363580
I thought Hyuna lost her stylist and makeup artist that were contracted to her by CUBE. So now she has to do her own stuff.

No. 363594

Poor overworked and bullied baby Jungkook just bought himself a 2 billion won apartment
>he deserves it!1!1

No. 363595

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I honestly can't remember if Treasure (tacky ass new yg boy group produced from yg elimination show) was discussed itt but apparently yg is debuting another one. They already have so many bgs going on and couldn't take care of the mixnine winners, why?

No. 363603

>>363594
I like how some sjw stans unironically think they are woke communist legends when they are literally working in the k-pop industry and have million won apartments

No. 363607

>>363603
>million won apartments

kek anon, this would make them woke communist legends because million won is only $900.

Jokes aside, so not only do they own their own luxury apartments but also BigHit CEO bought them a huge apartment in one of the most elite and well-guarded parts in Seoul.

But they totally care about injustice and poverty in the world guys!

No. 363617

>>363607
Sorry youre right im drunk and i was thinking about it as in a million dolalrs. Looking it up the articles say that his apartment is 1.95 billion KRW (1.75 million USD). They probably just keep the group house so that fans can be like "they are millionaires yet they still live together, family goals!!"

No. 363624

>>363607
the dorm (which is reportedly worth cca 6.5mio usd) is rented

i also dont think 1.7mio usd is a lot for an appartment. bts members net worth is seriously low lol

No. 363626

>>363624
Suga bought a 3 billion dollar won house. Not rented. But yes BTS allegedly has shitty contracts.

No. 363634

i wonder how the total income of a k-pop group is split since they have a lot of members and i'm sure companies take a fair share of the money. like do all members get paid the same amount or the ceo favourites get paid more?

No. 363635

>>363513
She looked gorgeous, what the fuck. What did they do to her? People are supposed to get PS to look better, not worse…

No. 363655

>>363634
It largely depends on the company. Smaller companies might force the more popular members to share the money they get from individual gigs. Overall K-pop idols get paid dust anyway, AOA had a string of hits from 2014-15 and Seolhyun is very popular, yet they didn't pay off their trainee debts until 3 years into debut.

No. 363657

>>363624
BTS bragging about the money they earn when they make around as much as your average company vice-president is topkek

No. 363663

In which world is nearly 2 million for an apartment not a lot of money…?
They're only in their 20s, many of their songs aren't produced by them, they don't do anything on their own. Why should their company pay them more?
If they're willing to spend such a large sum they very likely have much more in savings on top of that.

No. 363666

>>363663
Exactly. The ppl itt are sperging out about it not being a lot of money. Yes, probably compared to how much Western stars make. Dropping that much money on an apartment is a shit ton and i wouldn't be surprised if they had even more due to the fact Korea's real estate is cheaper than cities in America.

No. 363667

>>363663
they constantly wear ugly label clothes too but it might be bighit's flexing choice

No. 363668

>>363634
Idols make most of their income from advertising deals.

No. 363686

>>363562
Korean clubs are notorious for this, when I went to clubs on "foreigner night" only girls got in for free, and it was really awkward seeing black people turned down (keep in mind this was advertised as a HipHop club)

No. 363688

>>363686
It's a supply and demand thing, like regular ladies nights. Foreign women are rarer and more sought after than foreign men, so you need to offer them an incentive to come to your club, like free entry.

No. 363689

>>363635
What I don't understand is that WHY change your face once you debut at SM? They're visual as fuck so the fact that you where pretty AND (in Wendy's case) talented enough to not only become a trainee but DEBUT as well in one of the top 3 entertainment companies, it makes no fucking sense.

She has to REALLY be insecure

No. 363690

>>363689
honestly her look was fucking beautiful and she'll never get that look back as we can see that she tried after losing weight and removing her full face bangs

No. 363696

>>363524
the league of legends song helped them a lot

No. 363713

File: 1548779690467.jpg (71.56 KB, 509x636, 160514_Red_Velvet_WENDY_02.jpg)

>>363689
Do you think SM might have it in their contract that the idol would have to get PS on their "suggestion"? It's the only explanation for SM's busted idols. Wendy looks objectively 10 times worse now. With the botched jaw shave her face is now shaped like a foot, and they managed to turn her perfectly fine nose into a weird hooked nose that somehow gets worse at every comeback. They fucked her up big time.
Compare this…

No. 363716

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>>363713
…to this and >>363428

No. 363723

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>>363713
They did her SO dirty. If I were her I'd sue

No. 363727

>>363713
no, most idols get surgery by their own admission. especially sm idols.

No. 363729

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>>363713
she got shit for being the ugliest member even before all this despite making irene look downright masculine by comparison. i definitely think the retarded fans who constantly put her down are to blame despite her being the only genuinely talented member that made them stand out against other ggs.

she looks straight up barbie-like now, pic related.

No. 363731

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No. 363732

it's funny that people think idols only get botched surgeries because of their evil CEOs and not because they're fame hungry young people with too much money

No. 363737


No. 363742

>>363723
you can barely see her features because of the whitewashing

No. 363752

>>363732
Exactly, they're always the victims.
I already said this many times, but nobody holds them to the same standard as they do to non-koreans.

15 yo Justin Bieber can't sing - just kill yourself.
26 yo (or 27?) Jin can't either - poor dude, he probably is depressed now.
Some freshly turned skinny 18 yo american, who got fake tits and posts lewds - disgusting slut lol.
20-something yo old female idol, showing her panties on stage - omg, her company forces her to do sexy concepts, she's clearly uncomfortable! They completely destroyed her self esteem, she even got plastic surgery… Does she have an ED too??

And not just their stans, people here do exactly the same.
American artists are also told to get ps, to lose weight, to be sexier etc by their companies - every preteen knows that the show business is hard, so why do you feel sorry for kids from wealthy families, who're greedy for even more money and fame?
We know that kpop is shady, but koreans know as well.

No. 363793

>>363752
it's the idol industry marketing working.
>look see!! they're just regular kids just like you!

No. 363796

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>>363696
The LoL song isn't even same group. It's kind of sad that this random group they put together put out a better song than (g)I-dle.

No. 363814

>>363796
That is Soyeon and Miyeon in the song though? Sure it was a collab with Madison Beer and other chick, but that's their voices in that song too. That's probably what anon meant by the song boosting their popularity

No. 363832

>>363595
I watched the first couple episodes of that show and it was super boring. The editing was bland and the guys seemed basic as fuck (though that could’ve easily been down to the editing). YG really needs to get some tips from pd101’s creator if they’re going to make survival shows a regular thing.

No. 363852

>>363595
I think he only announced plans for another bg so the leftover trainees wouldn't jump the ship. There's male Produce edition this year after all, and Cube would always welcome them with open arms. Doubt they'll debut two boy groups anytime soon, even Treasure's debut is probably late 2019/2020. Every YG release is a years long struggle.

No. 363856

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Ik it’s already been discussed that all bp fans are wannabe ana chans but to see them claim that’s rosé spoopy body as not only attractive but one of the best bodies in kpop is so SAD

No. 363859

>>363856
How ANY of BP's bodies are goals is beyond me. I'm on mobile so I can't find the image but Jennie recently performed with a dress that pushed up whatever little fat she has to high heavens and she was pushing her arms together to create the illusion of boobs. Stan Twitter creamed themselves all over that image, calling her body goals. How is she going to pull off the "sexy free and single" image when she's a starved dungeon slave IRL? As much as I think Hwasa is cringey, she has the body to pull of the skimpy outfits she wears. BP just look like little girls who raised the nearest Fredericks of Hollywood.

No. 363881

>>363856
>>363859
blackpink are styled a lot to look like they're very skinny but curvy, rather than just very skinny. it helps them seem like 5'10 goddesses instead of 5'4 skeletons

hwasa's body isn't anything special either though, she has as small an ass as any other girl in kpop which looks weird when it's on someone with bigger thighs. she stands out from the other girls but that's it

No. 363903

>>363689
Well think about it. Remember the post a couple of days ago about how trainees are scrutinized and demeaned and put down over their looks and weight? Now imagine you make it into a group. The magnifying glass is probably MUCH more, because your every move will be analyzed and documented in photos, interviews and video. Imagine seeing yourself in a photo from a day you feel fat or ugly or gross. Now imagine seeing that every day, multiple times a day. Imagine taking a pic where you look fat not just to yourself, but to everyone else. And you come to the dorm and one of your coordinators or stylists or even your manager harps on you to lose weight FAST. Or seeing that one netizen made fun of your nose or your eyes or your jaw. Im sure its not plesant and you have to be super strong to deal with that every day and not give in to the temptation of South Koreas "quick fixes". They're known for plastic surgery that heals within days because theyre so proficient at it. Its a recipe for disaster.

No. 363907

>>363859
this one, anon?

No. 363919

>>363907
it sucks jennie has nice legs but literally no ass

No. 363926

>>363903
I'm in tears, anon… My heart is bleeding for her.

No. 363927


No. 363928

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>>363903
They invented a procedure using threads inside skin to hold things together

No. 363932

>>363928
Cant help but be nervous that one of these days, somebody's ps is gonna malfunction on stage or some shit and their organs are just going to fall out. I remember the blind item about the idol whos implants busted and started spilling out everywhere and Im really surprised nothing like that has happened on stage yet.

No. 363939

>>363903
or they could learn how to write songs themselves and post it on soundcloud like everyone else, instead of signing up to be an idol so they can depend on a team of 200 people to make rich and famous for having a face

No. 363941

>>363939
you..do realize most trainees are children..correct?

No. 363944

>>363941
and there's tons of children in korea who work hard at becoming musicians, not idols. i don't feel bad for them because you're forgetting that they're all spoiled rich kids.

No. 363947

>>363939
Ok I get it. Idols are horrible people who should all just get over the oppressive beauty standards or le kill themselves~
The person I replied to asked why someone post debut would fuck themselves up beyond recognition, and I answered. Doesnt matter if you feel bad for them or not. Thats beside the point.

No. 363983

>>363932
I havent thought about it and now that i do its so scary

No. 363984

> BTS performing and shit
> JHope's nose falls off mid performance
> RIP in pieces m8

No. 363995

File: 1548806494033.gif (2.97 MB, 480x270, giphy.gif)

>>363984

Anon you made me remember this episode from South Park.

No. 363996

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>>363907
Her boobs looked like they're forcibly pushed lmao it's sad, even sadder when you see posts like pic related

No. 364001

>>363983
It would be like Paris Hilton in Repo! lol

No. 364007

>>363881

I guess the standards are so low that any girl idol that's not a walking skeleton and not behaves like a little girl is gonna stand out.

No. 364019

>>363939
But these children want to specifically be idols/performers. There wouldn’t even be a major difference between lyrics written by them and a group of men.

No. 364051

Can anybody here explain to me why Kang Daniel is popular? I didn't watch PD, but he isn't that good-looking. Yeah he's tall, he's got ~proportionzzz~ but so are lots of other idols and his face is whatever
I want to understand

No. 364055

>>364051
"Personality". I don't get it since I don't speak Korean.

No. 364068

>>364051
Because early on it was decided he was the Somi of Produce 101 Season 2

No. 364116

>>363919
I follow several boy groups and I've noticed that they often have good asses (sue me lol) so why do the girl idols have so often none at all? Do they starve themselves more than guys and that's why? Do boys wear pads? Or maybe they are allowed to bulk up a bit more, but I don't see a reason why korean guys would not like a girl idol with a bigger butt.

No. 364124

>>364051
Not trying to fangirl or stan just answering the question so don't rip me to shreds, but he's very cute in an honest and genuine way unlike 99% of idols you see, a lot of his moments were captured and broadcasted on Produce101 which allowed fans to put trust in him and grow closer to knowing the "real him." Not saying his personality isn't fabricated, just that it appears more real than other idols. He's also humble, hardworking, a good dancer. He's handsome in that he's quite masculine and fits the Korean standards quite well, he seems soft faced at first but his looks start to grow on you. He's just a really nice, cute boy really. Silly, humble, goofy, mischievous, fun. He reminds me a lot of Chanyeol in those ways who's also a very popular idol domestically.
>>364068
This was actually Samuel, they even compared him directly to Somi multiple times throughout the show and it was shocking that he didn't make the Wanna One lineup.

No. 364151

>>364051
Because he looks and acts like a puppy and Koreans find it endearing. His face shape freaks me out tho

No. 364155

>>363713
I cry every time I see Wendy. I keep lying to myself to see her old face but it's NEVER coming back

No. 364156

>>363859
If you go to myproana you will literally see threads dedicated to kpop idols with a recent focus on "thin" idols like all of Blackpink, Wendy (for her yo-yoing), Sunmi and other randos. It's crazy

No. 364157

>>363903
Got damn no wonder some people call Korea "Hell Korea" and others meme the North as "best Korea" (when it isn't but you get the jist)

No. 364178

>>364019
They want to be idols for the fame and glamour, if being an actual musician was equally glamorized they'd run to get songwriting lessons. I don't disagree with you though, it's apparent that there's not much actual passion for music there.

No. 364180

>>364116
The boys are presumably allowed to eat a little more than the girls because their dance routines are more physically intensive? Also the Korean public probably thinks curves on Korean women are disgusting and slutty. Jennie's outfits are equally as skimpy as Hyolyn or Hwasa but she gets much less hate because she fits beauty standards and those two don't

No. 364236

>>364180
>Jennie's outfits are equally as skimpy as Hyolyn or Hwasa but she gets much less hate because she fits beauty standards and those two don't
Am I the only person who’s surprised South Korea is so obsessed with Jennie’s visuals? She doesn’t look like the SK ideal at all. She looks SEA to me and if I didn’t know better I’d think she was from there… which isn’t a negative thing for a normal person but South Koreans are obsessed with putting down SEAs and using it as some sort of insult towards any female idols they accuse of “looking SEA”.

No. 364254

>>364236
Well BP have an actual SEA group member so she gets most of the hate? Jennie might look SEA (I don't see it but then again I'm not from there) but she is fully Korean, and that's better than being SEA by blood to them

No. 364257

>>364155
F

SM sabotaged her face so she won't steal the spotlight from Irene I'm sure of it

No. 364260

>>364254
does lisa get a lot of hate in sk? she seems like the most popular one internationally

No. 364271

>>364260
Lisa is only popular in thailand not really anywhere else and yeah sk shits on her for being looking SEA

No. 364321

>>364260
Not outright hate, not enough people know who she is to hate her, but her heritage isn't working in her favour.

No. 364332

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Dia’s yebin and cherry bullets Bora look so similar their singing voices are even similar

No. 364358

I'm so tired of Youtube recommending this fat fuck to me. He's always making super critical videos about everything to annoy fans. Now, I get that triggered fans are stupid, but why go out of your way to annoy them? He's even married with children, dude get a life, stop annoying 14 year olds on Youtube. The female idol one is even more disgusting, he just goes "No" on every one of them like he's prince charming.

And before someone says I was triggered because he didn't like one of the idols or something, no, I just find his attitude disgusting. Same goes for a lot of anons here that nitpick every small feature of an idol, like if they have any visible lines around their mouth or if they have "fat" calves.

No. 364363

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>>364332
Unrelated but Yebin looked really cute when she had short boyish hair. Makes me sad cause most girls with this hairstyle irl are fakebois.

No. 364366

>>364358
The kpop fags in the comments are not even angry at him, so why are you? No big deal. He doesn't even have a big audience, this isn't going to cause some preteen armys suicide, so who cares?
For a million comments of calling oppa the most handsome oppa in the world there's only lolcow and that single video calling them ugly.

No. 364369

>>364236
There really isn't one ideal face. She has a small face and her face is nicely proportioned. It's like asking why sk is obsessed with sana even tho she has strong cheekbones.

No. 364385

>>364369
I never understood the love for Sana either

No. 364388

>>364254
i'm not trying to race bait, but koreans love sea features (like big eyes) and hate actual sea people. same with mixed race koreans; a lot of people criticized somi for looking mature which, according to them, is a result of her being half white. yet they praise idols who are 100% korean, but look stereotypically mixed.

No. 364397

What's going on with Jay Park?

No. 364401

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there was a terrifying moment in Taemin's Move MV where he looked like Gackt and I see that's continuing with his upcoming comeback. at least it's a little different from yet another Sunmi/Chungha big shoulderpads and velvet 80s-ish concept, since that's that's been one of the go-to concepts lately

No. 364402

File: 1548870318740.jpg (14.84 KB, 250x176, 26s20003_1.jpg)

Idk whether this has been posted before, but I looked up YG's first girl group and I think it's strange how much the girl on the far right, whom he broke up the group just to marry, looks like Jennie… I'm betting on a similar scandal happening with Blackpink, given the extent to which he favours her right now. Dude creeps me out

No. 364404

>>364402
i don't see it, anon. i bet you're one of these bp fans who think that all the industry is molesting them

No. 364410

>>364332
Cherry Bullet is full of girls who look like other idols. I saw one girl who looked like Jihyo, one a bit like Yeri, and one girl looked kinda like Yeonwoo. It's like their company thought using popular idol lookalikes will get the public to notice them. Their debut song was okay but the group is way too big.

>>364385
Sana knew how exactly to act like a shy helpless sex kitten, exactly how uncle fans like their women to be, so she got popular.

>>364397
He went overboard defending his right to wear dreads. Can't find the exact image but at one point he said that non-Koreans using the words "oppa" and "mukbang" was tantamount to cultural appropriation.

No. 364414

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>>364397
Pretty much for this, I think he also made a long "sorry not sorry" apology on Twitter

No. 364416

>>364410
she's not popular among uncle fans, retard. she's popular among sk's equivalent of a 4channer.

No. 364417

File: 1548871969761.png (473.51 KB, 884x590, SESEugene.PNG)

>>364402
Actually rumours say that he was obsessed with SES' Eugene (pictured), going so far as to name his daughter Yoojin because it sounds like Eugene. Girl on the right, aka YG's wife, was said to look a bit like Eugene but I don't see it in that picture. Don't know how true this all is though.

No. 364418

>>364416
You could be right, but you're trying to tell me that uncle fans don't like the sexy retard persona? That's like 90% of Twice's fanbase

No. 364419

>>364414
>people who arent korean doing mukbang

Eating in the presence of a camera is racist now.

No. 364420

>>364332
Not seeing it. They have similar hair, that's all.

>>364363
I wish idols would try the tomboyish look more. There's not a lot of them doing it, so it would make them stand out.

No. 364424

>>364385
Sana is sexy cute, so she's an acceptable level of non threatening sexy.

No. 364426

>>364419
Eh I do think there is a discussion to be had about obese/bulimic Americans who took mukbangs and made it a viral "western" thing on youtube when its clearly exploitation of a cultural phenomenon for clout and to gloss over their obvious eating disorders when they cant even pronounce the word correctly much less know anything about its origin. I dont think its necessarily comparable in the context he's trying, but it is a thing so he's not completely wrong.

No. 364427

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>>364402
Middle one is the wife

No. 364429

>>364424
yeah, it’s the same kind of thing you see on r/kpopfap. looking like you’re actually trying to be sexy is too scary and slutty, instead those types go for someone like sana who is still actually doing it intentionally, but the gifs make it seem like she’s just innocently bending over and doesn’t know there’s going to be upskirt gifs of her

No. 364440

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Maybe he should school his friends too.

No. 364452

>>364440
What would he even school Jay Park in? Being more ingnorant? Hanging around more racist people?
Why do army and BTS have to inject themselves in to every situation, even when it makes no sense

No. 364518

>>364427
damn she kind of resembles dara

No. 364519

>>364414
For someone who want to curry the favor of blacks who rule to rap and hip hop industry, he's not doing himself any favors kek

No. 364583

>>363796
god madison's plastic face looks way worse than soyeon and miyeon..

No. 364584

>>363713
I can't believe anons itt are crying about her "old" look based on obviously edited photos and videos. This candid "botched" photo resembles how she looked in her predebut high school pictures.

No. 364639

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>>364584
Even in candidates she looked much better

No. 364640

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>>364639
Candid*

No. 364641

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No. 364642

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>>364641
Whatever they did to her face, they messed her up

No. 364644

>>364414
Tbh imo he’s kind of right. These same fans that are ragging on him are the same ones who say Oppa or jjinja and get mad because cosmetics for Asians don’t cater to deep skin tones. That’s cultural appropriation too.

No. 364645

>>364640
>>364641

This is what the Korean public considered grossly overweight? Jesus christ. She was never astoundingly beautiful but she also wasn’t the hideous hamplanet everyone seemed to complain about.

No. 364648

>>364642
The makeup style was so much better during those times

No. 364650

>>364644
>>364414
I agree with him. kek @ cheap ass bundle weaves. Truth.

No. 364654

>>364644
>anons itt make fun of Korean girls for wearing chalk white foundation
> “don’t get mad because cosmetics for Asians don’t cater to deep skin tones“

Anon you realize Asians come in various shades of brown too? It’s not just foreigners who are petitioning for Asian brands to start carrying darker shades.

No. 364665

>>364654
Lol dont be dense. You know they're talking about primarily black girls, who rage about asians appropriating their culture but appropriate various Asian cultures themselves and play it off like its not the same thing.

No. 364671

>>364645
not the korean public, 13 year old girls with a superiority complex on pann

No. 364672

>>364671
ah yes, a country where almost all clothing stores are one size fits all and that size is the equivalent of a size 2 or smaller in the US but its kids on the internet

No. 364676

>>364672
damn clothing stores were bashing wendy? fucked up if true

No. 364680

>>364676
le im being purposely obtuse teehee~

No. 364686

>>364645
No, not really. I see heavier Koreans on the daily, these are just neckbeard netizens who scream about how idols are meant to be ~uwu flawless dolls~ all the time. That's the real issue here. It's the creepy people who breathe down people's neck all the time who complain that an idol gained 1kg over a break period. They just want submissive, tiny, flawless girls to fawn over like most incels. It's just that they have a broader audience to show that toxic shit to since idols are everywhere here.

Koreans push a certain image for body and face, but every country has that "ideal" type. You just only hear shit people kicking up a fuss.

>>364672
Also what? Anon, one size clothing fits tons of people here, even up to size 18.

No. 364687

>>364639
She looked better that the overrated Irene.

No. 364696

>>364640
Wow…she actually looked like a genuinely pretty girl and she looked healthy too

The Koreans rlly do have no taste. No wonder actual pretty bitches fuck up their faces for no reason.

No. 364702

>>364639
I can't pinpoint when her face was fucked… I look at her fancam in dumb dumb (which was after ice cream cake) so it might have been between that and OOTN.

Also her eyes were fucking pretty too idk what the fuck is up with korea

No. 364705

>>364696
I saw a few comments saying Nana (After School) "overcame" the tragic flaw of having a square jaw.

Nana, of all people.

No. 364709

File: 1548916194399.png (1.15 MB, 1080x1812, Screenshot_2019-01-31-01-27-07…)

What the actual fuck? Why is CNN reporting about the autist releasing music…?

No. 364711

>>364702
If you check out this mix even seulgi looks different, idk if it's because of age and stress that they don't look as "fresh" as their debut

No. 364717

>>364709
he was trending on twitter yesterday and armys were saying that it's such a poetic and well produced song. i checked it out and it has very simple lyrics and production, it sounds like your typical boring bts ballad

No. 364736

>>364709
For views anon. They don't necessarily care about him or his group.

No. 364756

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sorn looks so off this comeback and i can't work out what it is but yikes

No. 364773

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>>364645
These were before her weight gain. She started gaining a lot of weight and criticism after ice cream cake I think? Or before dumb dumb

No. 364775

>>364654
Literally what >>364672 said. Asian come in various shades of “brown” as you said, but not all shades of brown. Yes, girls wear pasty foundation but that’s because they want to look whiter, not because they don’t have options suited to their coloring. Ofc these companies aren’t going to making shades darker than most Koreans are, but if they want a darker shades, stores like Etude House have a pretty broad range.

>>364672
Have you ever been to Korea or are you just going off hearsay?? Koreans actually really like oversized clothings so the ‘one size’ is actually pretty big. I’m a large to extra large and had no problem when picking out ‘one size’ tops and other plus size Korean youtubers have said the same.

No. 364802

>>364773
And even so, she looks perfectly fine. I wish the most companies and neitizens would just realize that idols are not gonna keep the weight off through crash dieting/ depriving themselves of calories by eating 300-800 a day. The companies shouldnt be allowing that for their idols, especially since they all claim to be overworking them to the bone.

But it's not like they're gonna change their ideals anytime soon, over there they praise a girl starving herself more then turn around in order to mock a fit one whose calories are 1200-1600 cals.

No. 364804

>>364709
His song is fucking boring. Armys will really say anything bc they're in denial. They know they stan untalented hacks.

And the press will continue to mention BTS, cause they want armys sucking their dicks.

Besides, I thought Taehyung listened to soul artists such as Daniel Caesar and Gallant. The members with no musical talent, "vocal" line, should really stick to producing more songs and improving their voices, but with army validation, I'm pretty sure they've figured it's unnecessary. Just like artists who see no point in improving due to the people following them for their "style".

No. 364809

>>364804
I HATE how breathy he sounds, I can almost feel his spit in my ears.

No. 364811

>>364756
Sorn has always been really beautiful to me, I know not many will agree but I see it. seeing this pic I wish they would style her to her full potential… CLC is one of the only groups I've liked enough to follow but with G-Idle debuting like 50x more successfully and overshadowing idk how many more years they'll muster

No. 364813

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>>364687
i honestly think a huge chunk of the hate she got was because she overshadowed irene by being both prettier and genuinely talented. sm had gassed irene up as some visual goddess since before debut but there were still people who thought wendy was the visual.

in a lot of ways irene is quite similar to jennie re: being favorited by their companies and shoved down everyone’s throat (like how yg forced g-dragon and seungri to feature jennie on their albums) until people finally started to swallow it up.

at least irene seems to have work ethic.

No. 364816

>>364809
all of bts vocalists sound breathy, even in studio versions. idk if that's how bighit taught them to sing but they are painfully mediocre singers, you'd think a group who claims to practice everyday would improve

No. 364839

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>>364584
No, her face looked different. Her current pictures are also heavily edited, but she doesn't look like her old self anymore. Look at the jaw, cheeks and nose in this gif compared to >>364639

No. 364842

>>364756
She looks like Chloe Moretz

No. 364874

>>364756
it's the hair. she doesn't have the face for that parted fringe + long hair. her facial structure/features look like they'd suit short hair way more

No. 364884

>>364813
My dead grandpa has more work ethic than Jennie, that's a low bar tbh anon

No. 364885

>>364874
she had this style of hair for hobgoblin and looked fantastic. honestly cube is so hit and miss with their styling

No. 364890

>>364885
must be the hair color then, few people can pull off that rust shade

No. 364934

>>364884
read the post again

No. 364965

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Finally tumblr said something good for once

No. 364967

>>364885
Sorn's got shafter for styling during hobgoblin too. The make up did not work for her at all. Honestly think its the middle part combined with an overabundance of volum at the roots tapering to nothing. Gives her a bubble headed look. Throwin a lot of Christina Ricci vibes with the open forehead middle part.

No. 364976

>>364965
on point. the salt in the notes must be amazing

kpop fans who think all asian guys are like male kpop idols are hilarious. they actually think putting on makeup, talking in a high pitched baby voice, acting effeminate, doing gay shit with each other is something all asian guys do and they'll see twink oppars banging all around as soon as they arrive sk

No. 364983

>>364965
sounds more like a crybaby to me. it's a shame because she had a good reason but poor arguments

No. 364992

>>364813
>Irene
>Work ethnic
Bitch have you seen her on stage? She and Joy are terrible with facial expressions unless the camera is in their face and ready for it.

Wendy and Seulgi always give 100% on EVERY single stage handsdown

No. 364997

>>364813
>crybaby

Nah she's calling it what it is.

No. 365006

>>364997
Music genre is keeping them up at night, it's not normal just as much as kpoppies

No. 365057

>>365006
I doubt they meant it literally anon…

No. 365060

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>>364992
huh, my bad. i haven’t followed them very closely but all other sm artists i’ve followed have been held to a very high standard…

then again the only red velvet members i’ve been somewhat invested in are the two talented ones: seulgi and wendy, as you mentioned.

No. 365062

>>365057
i know, but they still look pretty concerned about it

No. 365110

File: 1548983125981.gif (1.07 MB, 250x250, sorn.gif)

>>364811
i thought she was really cute during no oh oh

No. 365133

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An army on twitter posted about their new grandchild and made her middle name Namjoon. Probably the most clapped name I’ve never seen

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No. 365136

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>>365133
Please tell me this is a joke. No one could be that cruel to some innocent baby.

No. 365154

>>365133
lol this is obviously a joke. grandparents don't name their grandchildren.

No. 365170

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>>365133
The koreaboos saying namjoon is a beautiful name for a non korean baby are fucking retarded.

No. 365180

>>364965
She's not wrong, but I mean…literally all of this is true about the western pop industry too kek

No. 365206

>>364992
Irene looks like she has either extreme anxiety or straight-up autism. She's honestly not a bad dancer, technically good enough to keep up with Seulgi sometimes, but she just looks so fucking BLANK. Her body and face express two different moods. I've never seen someone so painfully self-conscious.

No. 365207

>>365180
Western pop gets called out for abusing singers on a regular basis though. Everyone knows how shady it really is. Kpop isn't held to the same degree of accountability, because so much is hidden, and so fans think it's automatically better than degenerate Western pop when it's equally bad - in some aspects even worse, because of its secretive nature and the Asian culture of subservience.

No. 365224


No. 365242

>>365224
So not only is he the most useless BB member, but he's also an enabling piece of shit? And here I thought he was the least offensive of the group. Good riddance tbh

No. 365248

>>365207
Are you kidding? All kpop fans ever do is hold kpop companies 'accountable', crying 24/7 about the dumbest shit they consider mistreatment of their favs and refusing to accept the possibility of any idol having any agency. One second their oppar is a poor overworked slave, the next he's being sabotaged by his company and not getting enough work. Their oppar doesn't get paid enough but the company also isn't spending enough on their MVs. And so on and so forth. Most fans dont understand the role of management companies, they dont understand the contracts, and they sure as fuck dont know what's best for idols. They automatically believe any bad thing they hear without fact checking (all kpop fans thing there's a 90:10 split in SM's favour, for example, despite public documents proving otherwise), and all logic goes out the window when they think their fav is suffering.

Entertainment is a trash industry everywhere but kpop fans are a special kind of retarded.

No. 365262

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The new Clc album actually sounds cohesive and I like the group but I can’t get over this Eunbin girl… she looks so awkward and out of place and her expressions make her look like she’s terrified 24/7 even when she’s smiling

No. 365265

>>365248
Also, "their manager is mistreating them!"

Imagine being in your 20s (most managers and stylists are very young and ridiculously underpaid) and having to care for a dozen wo/menchildren. When idols only get to sleep 3 hours per day and some of that time is spent sleeping in the car - while the manager is driving, just imagine how little rest they get. They have to get up earlier than the idols themselves, have to make sure that they all get up and ready (god knows how many idols drink or take drugs), they get blamed if they're late, they're either hated for not protecting oppa/unnie enough - or for being too rough with fans. And all this without getting the money, fame and love from fans that idols receive as compensation for their troubles.

You constantly hear fans call for getting stylists etc fired because they don't like what their darlings "are forced" to wear (as if the idols themselves know how to Dress better… see Hyuna) and so on. I don't believe one second that idols are as innocent as they try to present themselves as. If they bully each other, just imagine how badly they treat their staff.

No. 365274

>>365265
i don't think all idols are uwu innocent babies or evil spoiled brats, it really depends on the person and i believe that some k-pop staff are abusive but other than that, their managers aren't involved with groups only on a business level, they are like their parents. i remember some boy groups talking about how they can't get out in public so their manager does all the shopping for them, they arrange the maids who clean up the dorms and stuff.

No. 365284

>>365224
The fact that there is cameras in tbe bathroom is creepy as fuck. Seungri better kiss his career goodbye.

No. 365323

Honestly though the report about seungri practically raping the prostitute should have been enough to cancel his ass years ago. People want to act like male Kpop idols need to be babied and uWu protected. Bitch, they're still fucking men and they still do what men do. And in Korea its practically LEGAL and the government and any male in power will literally help you get away with this shit. You dont even have to have connections to literally sue your victim for "malicious lies" or "slander" and WIN. Fuck that backwards ass society and anybody caping for Seungri right now.

No. 365345

I love how even now fans are still shielding him
>Oppa didn't know! He's got nothing to do with it, he was only a shareholder
Meanwhile Seungri was out there, playing Gatsby for years already. I don't get how anybody didn't see him as super fishy…

But thanks, for showing the world once again that kpop fans are absolute retards!

No. 365349

>>365262
I liked her in oh no no but the styling for that comeback was cuter and more colourful so it fit her (as she is the youngest iirc) but ever since hobgoblin she looks uncomfortable or she can't pull the facial expressions needed to seem "bad ass" so she has a blank stare.

No. 365351

>>365224
Nah he's a man and you know how korea/ the world is with them; he'll just lay low and enlist or something

No. 365410

>>365323
I've been saying for years that he's fucking fishy based on that report and every time people told me to calm down.

He choked her without warning or consent. And people just laughed about it and wrote it off because "some women like that!" even though she clearly didn't.

No. 365420

>>365224
How is anyone even surprised? Didn’t he get outed a few years ago for beating his Japanese girlfriend or something?

No. 365423

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>>365420
Sorry for the double post but

>>The gossip magazine alleges that the pictures came from a woman who spent the night with him, with the woman purporting that Seungri had a habit of choking her and being violent during sexual intercourse.


The magazine also quoted the woman as saying, “He ejaculated on my chest and just threw me a towel and didn’t even wipe [the semen]. He didn’t even kiss at all [during intercourse].”

So far, YG Entertainment has not spoken about the matter nor has a confirmation been made the person in the pictures is Seungri but many netizens are saying the pictures are unmistakably the Big Bang member.

Netizens have also been divided in thoughts and opinion over the matter with some saying the story sounds fabricated and fluffed, especially since it comes from a gossip magazine, while others are alleging the article was made to purposely try and bring the singer down.

https://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/9841486.html?page=4

No. 365425

>>365423
Damn what happened between 5 or 6 years ago on ontd and omona and now? Its like a completely different site. Imagine if people made those disgusting comments and shit now on that community lol.

No. 365454

>>365224
not a fan, but jesus, anon, get your facts straight.

No. 365466

>>365425
>Damn what happened between 5 or 6 years ago on ontd and omona and now?
95% of their posters disappeared and the ones still there grew up, mean teens aren't joining livejournals in 2019

No. 365559

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an acc making edits like pic related has about 16k followers on twitter. how.

No. 365578

>>365559
I don't know why kpop fans make these kinds of edits like they would actually date heavily tattooed idols; there's a reason most of these groups don't go for that look

No. 365708

>>365410
>He choked her without warning or consent. And people just laughed about it and wrote it off because "some women like that!" even though she clearly didn't.

and this is why the whole ~sex positive ~~empower~ movement is a joke. In a lot of Asian countries, especially Japan and Korea, men (esp idols) can do whatever they want and the women are always to blame. Seungri is scum. it's crazy how i used to think he was the least offensive member of that shit group, cuz i forgot he existed.

No. 365712

>>365224
That was extremely hard to read. and sadly, we live in a world where over 90% of rape cases end without the rapist being jailed or arrested. Look at the other case they were talking about where the woman committed suicide and even then, nothing was done.

Korea is a shithole society, filled to the brim with sexism. Men can do anything they want there.

No. 365769

>>365708
>it's crazy how i used to think he was the least offensive member of that shit group
I know about TOP's and Daesung's scandals but what have GD and Taeyang done?
Genuinely curious, I'm not really into Big Bang.

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>>365769
not that anon but from what i know, both have done some racist stuff (blackface, using the n-word, etc) as well as gd plagiarizing songs

No. 365803

>>365769
i'm not really into them either so i don't know if it's true but i've seen some sjw kpop stans talking shit about them for being homophobic and racist

No. 365940

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Hyuna posted this, and a video in the same outfit.
>eyebrows came back to life
>she looks like she showered
>flattering outfit
>flattering hair
>flattering makeup
What's going on? Is the druggie era finally over? Did Psy tell her to finally get a bath and look decent?

No. 365943

>>365940
Oh my God, she came back from the war.
It's obvious that the drug-look didn't bring her fans, so she have changed that. E'dawn still in his Soundcloud-Cobain-mode tho.

No. 365946

>>365940
she probably has a stylist now that made her look better

No. 365947

>>365940

didn't the whole crackhead look go to an extreme level after she left cube? i guess it makes sense that now that she has a new agency, they would tell her to cut the shit and look like a human again.

now if someone can convince e'dawn to get some eyebrows…

No. 365954

>>365940
Someone in the comments is saying that these pictures are old (from October), I hope to god they're not.
Guess we'll have to hold our breath until the next pictures she posts. I don't want to see those fucking bleached eyebrows, awful hair and lizard lenses again.

No. 365963

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>>365954
i mean this picture is 2 days old and she looks awful..

No. 365983

>>365963
shes just ugly tbh
she requires a shit ton of tan, makeup and styling to even be anywhere near an attractive individual

No. 366104

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>>365963
Who knows… at the end of the day, it would only take her a visit to the hairdresser and one to a makeup artist for that change to happen. I want to believe.

No. 366129

https://twitter.com/BTS_twt/status/1090628060322254848

Why does he seem like an attention whore who couldn't let V have his moment for like an hour?

No. 366130

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>>366129
who the fuck cares

No. 366154

>>366129 who the fuck is that and why the fuck should we care, anon? Leave.

No. 366155

>>366154 oh fuck realised it's jongkook or whatever, but still think this is more of general thing lol

No. 366160

>>366129
not trying to wk but it just seems like friends teasing each other, nothing serious

No. 366178

>>366129
I had to read the comments to find out he's actually JK… why does he look so different? I thought he was a random guy

No. 366205

>>366178
I thought it was one of the TXT clone boys Idk

No. 366241

>>366129
It's obvious JK had a nose job. Why people deny it? Look the tip and the bridge.

No. 366244

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Thoughts?

No. 366245


No. 366248

>>366244
Don’t they have a lot of female trainees that have been training with NCT memebrs for years? SM must really think they can last with what they have now

No. 366251


No. 366254

I wonder why taehyung changed his personality… now he's a serious guy who listen to jazz/classical music and likes van gogh… what a joke

No. 366258

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>>366254
I'm pretty sure it was the fans pushing that identity that made the company decide that he should stick with it

Pic is of his "art", but fans started freaking out cos there's a juul too

Nigga should've just stayed at his farm kek

No. 366272

>>366178
because he looks his age without all the uwu styling for once

No. 366273

>>366258

Is this great piece of art made by a 23 year old man?….. Wow, I'm shocked at how talented he is

It seems like he discovered european art/music yesterday and wants to be part of it because it's ~cool and different~

So embarassing

No. 366275

>>366258
LMFAO HE JUULS

No. 366276

>>366258
looks like the anons calling him an autist weren't just memeing

No. 366293

>>366258
armys are in denial. they're saying its a pastel holder and not a juul lol

funny to see that they are ALWAYS trying to find excuses

No. 366294

>>366258
Lmao his paintings look like they were done by a 15 boy who only took art bc it was mandatory so he just fucks around the whole time.

Also
>The juul
Armys are going to throw a fit. They got mad about one of Jimins friends for just vaping too close to home.

No. 366295

>>366244
Big hit doesn't have any female trainees so obviously they won't be launching a new girl group.

NCT is still flopping so SM really wants to push them into becoming the next EXO, and Red Velvet aren't the #1 girlgroup but they're not showing any signs of a decline in popularity just yet.

YG will probably focus on his new boygroups this year instead.

No. 366297

Can't attach screenshot because I'm on mobile but what the fuck?

https://twitter.com/jiuenbells/status/1091897972059709441?s=19

No. 366308

>>366297
WHAT have BTS done that is deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize? None of practice what they preach nor have I ever seen any of them go out of their way to organize their own charity, it's always their company controlling that shit.

The fans are deluded and need to step outside for some fresh air.

No. 366333

>>366308
Their moronic fans have deluded themselves into believing that their precious oppars are woke gay trans baby cow boi communists who are all uwu and are fragile yet sexy macho men. I hope these fuck bois don't get it, just to see their fans have the biggest melt down known to men. I want Kpop to be canceled this year and this might be the moment for the world to see how cancerous it really is.

No. 366340

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>>366297
Fake news apparently

No. 366342

>>366258
Why does the moon have a dirty sanchez on its mouth area

No. 366344

>>366342
Idk but my guess is that apparently Taehyung is trying to imitate the paiting style of his new favorite artist: Basquiat lol

No. 366361

>>366258
do you think he left it in the frame on purpose? i don't know why he would do that but he took the time to add effects, he could've cropped it out

No. 366365

>>366361
he's trying to get out his good boy image it seems. his fans still think he doesn't drink alcohol lol.

No. 366367

apparently juuls are illegal in sk?

No. 366373

>>366367
if it's really illegal in sk v is an absolute retard for posting it online

No. 366376

>>366258
I can't see shit, where's the juul?

No. 366387

>>366376
bottom left

No. 366391

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>>366376
Nta but Here's the juul

No. 366410

>>366391
He deleted the pic from fancafe and now stupid armys are trying to delete evidences of it and make people believe it's a pastel holder

No. 366411

>>366410
lol he could've bought a similar looking pastel holder and played along to the lie, deleting the pic just confirms that it was a juul

No. 366414

File: 1549194861440.jpg (559.98 KB, 1204x964, he's literally so innocent y'a…)

>>366293
their excuses remind me of blinks' excuses about jennie. they want him to be an innocent pure uwu baby so bad they can't see the reality. there is even a grown ass mom defending him against twitter stans lol

No. 366416

>>366411
Oh no, i saw that he had deleted his post on FC but it turned out he didn't

But armys are still pressed about the juul and are trying to protect their little baby who doesnt even know what smoking is uwu

No. 366417

>>366414
>uHm aCkchUyUallY mY OpPaR iS dEaThLy aLLurGic To evEry dRug iN eXistEnCe aNd aLsO vApIng anD crImE sO aNtIs neEd to STfU
holy shit this is turning out to be the funniest bts drammu of all time

No. 366419

>>366414
lmao it'll be glorious if he loses it and stops pretending he's not your typical fuckboy who drinks and goes clubbing, i hope it's just the beginning

No. 366420

>>366417
>>366414
isnt he a grown ass man? whats the big deal if he smokes or uses a vape or whatever?

No. 366423

>>366414
"Go smoke your shit and leave people alone"

Lmao shit that your oppa was smoking too

No. 366426

>>366420
i don't think anyone here cares if he smokes or not but the excuses fans make up are hilarious. it's a big deal for fans because it damages the ~~pure baby boy~~ image in their eyes

No. 366430

>>366426
I do, the fact that "vante" vapes is fucking hilarious. It adds another layer of cringe to his gay persona.

Please god let the juulgate milk keep flowing.

No. 366432

File: 1549197322812.jpg (64.58 KB, 684x727, taemin-jimin-1.jpg)

>>366430
it's also funny because they came at evil taemin for vaping around jimin and being a bad influence lol

No. 366444

>>366414
>drinking alcohol is hard for him
Isn't him a party kid though? I remember there were some pics of him at some clubs a couple of years ago.
Also, no way his accelerated aging isn't due to booze and cigs.

No. 366448

>>366414
Jesus who cares whether he smokes or not he's a grown ass man

No. 366451

Apparently Armys are fighting over a fandom colour now, because some Blink mistook it with Blackpink's(?).
They're seying it's so MeAniNgFul tO tHeM and are attacking her even after she apologized.

No. 366453

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No. 366456

>>366414
It's really creepy how they speak, as if they know him personally and are close to him to say that he "absolutely" doesn't like alcohol, coffee and tobacco.
Also, the irony of telling someone to get a life when your own life is dedicated to a boyband who doesn't even know you exist.

No. 366486

>>366258
>>366414
What's the big deal about this? I'm not familiar with juuls at all, are they for smoking weed? It's the only way I could comprehend (not justify) this amount of autism

No. 366488

>>366423
Not her Oppa, she's already a mother. But that somehow doesn't stop her from being obsessed with him…
https://mobile.twitter.com/AngieGraceLA/status/1091415590307127296

I love how they blur parts of 'smoke' as if it's some big forbidden word lol

Let's hope that one day innocent countryboy is caught visiting a "massage" salon. But I bet they'd even somehow try to spin that around…

No. 366492

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No. 366493

>>366486
Juul is a brand of e-cigarette

No. 366494

File: 1549209769912.jpg (220.56 KB, 481x630, 185700.jpg)

>>366488
lmao wtf is she doing

looking at her tweets literally makes me cringe. imagine being a middle aged mom and actually throwing a tantrum over poor taehyungie being accused of vaping

No. 366495

>>366494
I hope he shows himself vaping in his next Twitter post tbh

No. 366498

forgive me if i'm wrong but isn't smoking really really popular in korea and considered not that big of a deal?

i assume it's only international fans freaking out since the anti-smoking mindset is more prominent in the west…for a fandom that loves to scream "it's their culture don't judge them!!!" they'll sure go full autist when an idol does something they don't like

No. 366500

>>366498
idk about general public but idols smoking is considered scandalous for some reason

No. 366503

>>366500
But it's bad for oppar's health, anon, unlike starving and overworking themselves to the point of collapse.

No. 366504

>>366498
yeah smoking is popular but idols are supposed to be good role models since majority of their fans are kids/teens so people get mad when they smoke. they're like disney channel stars.

No. 366509

>>366494
>>366488
Wtf she's a mother and has a husband. Is this woman mentally sane? Why is she obsessing over a korean boy band? so creepy

No. 366514

>>366492
Jimin is always drinking and is basically an alcoholic and yet she is worried about Taemin's influence ok then

No. 366516

>>366492
>he's trying to draw you & the others into homosexuality.
taemin is probably more straight than everyone in bts with their fake woke gayboi agendas combined

No. 366527

>>366498
>>366500

Idols smoking is only an issue for International fans, not koreans.

Men smoking is not an issue is Korea and a good, large chunk of Korean guys smoke. Women, on the other hand rarely, smoke in public, if they do they are shamed for being unladylike. Smoking room in clubs are usually only for guys, girls have to smoke in the toilets.

No. 366531

>>366527
>Idols smoking is only an issue for International fans, not koreans.
lol literally not true. idols smoking in early generations of idols was a scandal.

No. 366536

>>366531
In early generations even talking to other idols was a scandal

No. 366538

>>366536
nah, idols went on variety with each other all the time. tbt to snsd and 2pm's love affair.

No. 366560

>>366414
I honestly think it's a pastel holder but this shit makes me wanna go apeshit on these fools. I don't know what's worse, this, or pic related.

No. 366562

File: 1549219802902.png (118.14 KB, 374x810, tumblr_pmd5kvuv0Y1wvcf7b_540.p…)

>>366560
Whoops, forgot to attach.

No. 366565

>>366538
1st generation idols couldn't talk with eachother, and they said it several times

No. 366580

File: 1549220898335.jpg (30.88 KB, 500x500, juulkit.jpg)

>>366560
it does look more like a juul than a pastel holder though. it has the tiny dot in the middle and it has the lighter but the lighter looks kind of skewed

No. 366586

>>366538
It was a scandal though. SNSD got ripped apart simply for being in the same company and Super Junior. The girl who threw the note on stage to Tiffany saying she killed her mom was a Super Junior fan who hated Tiffany because she was so bubbly in her interactions with SJ. Kpop fans are mentally retarded.

No. 366587

File: 1549221571161.jpg (51.82 KB, 540x459, tumblr_pm6addk5ve1qeou26_540.j…)

>>366560
it's a juul
>>366562
but holy kek

No. 366618

red velvet would be better as a group if it was just seulgi, wendy and irene. the other 2 are ugly and useless. at least irene has her face.

No. 366621

File: 1549228249027.jpg (47.95 KB, 749x734, DydXDt-V4AM4cHg.jpg)

this dude literally wears a hair piece lel
(it's v btw)

No. 366624

>>366621
i guess the new kpop trend is balding i blame ariana

No. 366633

>>366621 you don't understand, growing hair is hArD fOr hIm, he would never try to deceit his fans!!1

No. 366644

>>366621
old news

No. 366658

File: 1549233727289.jpg (138.96 KB, 1242x1242, 547bcea1-f508-467e-9cb4-824744…)

What the fuck is wrong with this dude…he can't even smile normally.

No. 366662

>>366658
people cant help their smiles though

No. 366667

>>366658
My grandma wears earings like those.

No. 366669

>>366661
are you the person sending her asks talking about lolcow? wtf, leave her alone you weirdo. just laugh at the cringe, dont start harassing some random girl on the internet like a psycho

No. 366671

>>366670
well somebody is

No. 366672

>>366671
nta, and not any anon sending this person asks, but honestly who cares?
no use for moralfagging here especially considering these people are fucking psycho themselves and harrass, stalk, dox and get hordes of other fans to join them if someone says anything about their precious oppas, including critcism that's warranted.
cowtipping is against the rules so thats the only problem with someone here mentioning lolcow

No. 366673

>>366672
because its just pathetic really, although it was the mention of lolcow that i thought was the biggest problem

No. 366674

File: 1549235188881.jpg (47.47 KB, 640x640, 00a8625b-9ad1-4443-8ecb-8e066f…)

Anybody know if this a real picture of Jimin or shopped?

No. 366675

Why does he needs to "sing" like this? He sounds as if he has some kind of speech problem.

And the lyrics… What can i say about them…

"You are dead
You are dad, but you are dead
Dead dad you don’t listen to me"

Only a genius could have written this

No. 366677

>>366669
The screenshot has been up for 4 hours and your post >>366661 was made at the exact same time that girl got an influx of anon hate. We all know you don't need to have a tumblr to send anon messages, just make it less obvious next time and don't mention lolcow jfc

No. 366678

sorry, last reply was meant for >>366670

No. 366679

>>366674
it’s obviously shopped wym

No. 366680

>>366675
Bts members are sub-par lyricists. Always have been always will be. The song is not good and neither are the vocals. I really don't see any one of them having a successful singing career after bts disbands. Actually no seeing as no one really cares about Rap Mon I don't see Rm having a successful solo career the others I'm not sure about.

No. 366772

>>366618
Irene is overrated. She just cannot be arsed a good 99% of the time to give any effort for anything, people just overlook it because of her face. She's also a severe autist who can't suck it up and show some enthusiasm while performing (see 2:46 on vid related). Yeri and Joy, tryhard as they are, are RV's saving grace on variety shows because the other three are boring as shit.

No. 366785

people actually stan this and pay money to look at this

No. 366787

>>366785
she sounds like she can't breathe and looks like she can barely move her face muscles

No. 366870

>>366675
>You are dad but you are dead

Shakespeare just sat up in his grave and began sobbing in jealousy.

No. 366874

This weekend I found out that my little sister is into blackpink and now I'm worried that she might think she also needs to be as skinny as them, seeing as she already as rather low confidence in general and EDs are common in my family…

I hate how this is supposed to be okay.

No. 366915

>>366772
Holy shit she looks so bored to be there and it's on a "bigger" stage than the music shows, can't even pretend to be bothered.

No. 366916

https://twitter.com/snapfinger42/status/1092343897076842496
luna is even more annoying in person than she is with her ‘uwu my pretty waist just keeps getting smaller..’ captions on instagram. so quirky and unique

No. 366931

>>366916
This is why her solo debut flopped. It's not really because of her looks, it's because of her personality. She's the annoying theater kid personified.

No. 366951

File: 1549290680652.png (173.88 KB, 465x261, adrian.png)

>>366675
>"You are dead
>You are dad, but you are dead
>Dead dad you don’t listen to me"
Holy fuck I'm howling

>>366772
She only puts some effort during her parts, it's like she believes she's invisible when the other members are singing

No. 366960

>>366951
>adrian on lolcow
Anon, I think I may be in love with you.

No. 366969

>>366675
>You are dead// You are dad, but you are dead// dead dad you don't listen to me//
I thought maybe these were translated from Korean since translations always sound weird and off to me but it wasn't rat writing is just cringy

Also I see he decided to fully jump on the clouty sad boy trend and makeing songs with bold statements about wanting to die/be dead.
Maybe that's they're next concept, edgy soundclout rappers. They're claiming enough mental illness for it.

No. 366971


No. 366974

File: 1549294464067.jpg (153.04 KB, 1080x923, 20190204_223336.jpg)

>>366969
No anon, those aren't translated parts but his original lines…

No. 366977

More idol dating stuff. They published a list: https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/02/enter-talk-cha-eunwoo-is-dating-sowon.html

i-fans act scary asf when it comes to the possibility of idols dating. Not just the ones who lose their shit because their fantasies have been destroyed, but the ones who are overcompensating and go over the top in praising and defending idols talking about "i'm so happy my faves are getting laid!!" Either way it's creepy koreaboo shit.

No. 366978

>>366969

Seriously idk what he was thinking when he wrote this. Probably he wasnt thinking at all. Not to blogpost but personally i find the following quiet offensive, not to mention that there are many religious uwu bts fans (i can tell by lurking on the vigilant citizen forum, many claim to be muslim christian etc). This came out in 2017 yet no one pointed out how shitty this song was (from religious POV and general), its like BTS can get away with murder.

>If I ever meet God, I would tell him this

>That life is coffee that I never ordered
>I would grab him by the collar and tell him
>Death is an americano you can’t refill
>Are you sure that you’re alive
>Then, let’s prove it somehow

No. 366981

>>366974
>>366978
I don't get it. How does this deserve a Grammy?

No. 366985

>>366981
I'm more surprised they were allowed to represent unicef on "love myself" campaign but at the same time they are promoting suicide, arrogance, and hatred through their songs and activities. Shit i missed when kpop was just pop music and nobody tried to give a deeper sentimental uwu meaning because at the end of the day its fucking useless and misleading.

No. 366987

>>366977
Half that list is fake anon, it was a Pann post that was edited to include Kai and Jennie moments after the news broke.

Anyway Eunwoo is honestly prettier than almost every female idol, any girl who dates him is going to look ugly in comparison.

No. 366997

File: 1549297036567.png (26.43 KB, 811x186, Luna.PNG)

>>366916
To add: https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/01/luna-says-shes-envious-of-the-attention-on-the-other-fx-members-gets-startled-when-asked-about-sulli-on-radio-star

Krystal gets attention because she's pretty, simple as that. Her cold/lazy persona is also true to who she is. I honestly didn't know how fucking annoying Luna was before this, it's probably a good thing that SM is keeping her in the dungeon.

No. 367001

>>366978
i looked up the song's entire translation out of curiosity and it's about him wanting to die but i still don't see what the dead dad lines have to do with anything. i don't think the lines about god are inherently offensive though, it's just some 16 year old edgy atheist boi bars i wonder what the religious armys like the ones in vigilant citizen actually think about rm and suga since they are both openly irreligious lol

No. 367012

>>366997
this is sad honestly
she's the ugly girl who sits and obsesses over other girls all day and copies them instead of just being herself
pretty sure she was a lot more likeable as the tan slightly chub(for korean standards) happy girl than she is now with this quest for perfection shit shes doing

No. 367019

>>367012
She was sitting next to Hyolyn and Hwasa who've got as much shit as she has for their looks, yet they're doing well because they're confident in who they are. They focused on their stage presence and charisma, meanwhile Luna is bragging about losing weight for each comeback. She'll never have Krystal or Sulli's looks. The sooner she accepts that she'll never be at that level of beauty and just work on developing herself as a singer more than a visual, she'll be happier

No. 367020

>>367019
it kills me because she was KNOWN for being happy and smiling all the time and encouraging the girls when they were down and stuff and now shes such a damn drag

No. 367027

>>366916
I hate how her fans are all "she's finally spilling the tea about sm", when she's actually just an incredibly rude and ungrateful employee. Talking like this about your bosses wouldn't be okay for normal people.
She made it into the top company in Korea, that's a lot bigger chance than most other aspiring singers even dare to dream about. Yet she's not successful. Because she's simply nothing special.

>>367019
She has made this one video in which she talks about massaging her legs for around an hour every single day. Doesn't she get that this is completely unrealistic for her young fans? Plus even with all that ps and starving she's still not pretty. People would be a lot more sympathetic if she was just a tiny bit more humble. She could have easily gone for a cute and likeable girl next door persona, yet she decides to play the eternal, but loud and boisterous victim.

No. 367030

File: 1549300958179.jpg (214.15 KB, 1920x1080, luna-1.jpg)

i genuinely thought she was adorable in f(x)

i think she just couldnt reconcile the fact that she was just CUTE and not a sex icon or something
its not like all the girls who are considered ~sexy~ in korea even are tbh, just look at hyuna
its about attitude and personality mostly, and sure your looks play a part but not everyone can carry that niche

No. 367032

>>366987

That's too bad because Jimin x Nayeon would have made for a hilarious meltdown from their stans. They would have matched as well since they both look like they're melting.

No. 367035

>>367030

If Luna had played her cards right she would have been a more successful Eunji. She's not considered pretty either, but having a good voice and a cheerful attitude will win over fans eventually. If she'd stayed on that humble track and just put out boring ballads she could have gained a fanbase, then when you're popular enough give your new fans a free somebody. But her desperation ruined it. She should have stopped dieting and changing her face after Rum Pum Pum era.

No. 367037

>>367035
eunji from apink? i thought she was considered pretty..not like NAEUN pretty but she definitely wasnt ever considered a visual hole the way namjoo and hayoung were

No. 367042

here is an interview with an ex bts sasaeng and it's very fucked up. like i've always found sasaeng shit disturbing but seeing it from a sasaeng's perspective is even more disturbing. there are also some screenshots from sasaeng accounts in the video and they sell all kinds of weird shit, they even have +18 videos of idols and a pedophilia rumor about nct's taeyong um what the fuck

>I finally stopped when I found myself being so resentful that I contemplated something so embarrassing and illegal I don't want to reveal here but I will say that for some sick reason I desired revenge against the members.

>The reason why illegal flight information is so popular amongst sasaengs is because in that situation the members are so vulnerable, they can't escape. That's the only place where they can't escape from sasaengs. We are all trapped in the same small enclosed space for hours and that situation makes it so attractive for sasaengs.
this is fucking dark

No. 367043

>>367042
koreans are fucking wild man..if you pulled anything like this in america you'd be arrested and either locked up or put in a mental institution at least for awhile

No. 367053

>>367042

Is this where they said everyone in BTS has a small dick except V and Jin?

No. 367055

>>367053
them selling info about dick sizes is kinda hilarious but the ex-sasaeng said that the sasaengs in the plane went to the toilet when a bts member went so i wouldn't be surprised if they put some hidden cameras to see their dick

No. 367057

>>367055
imagine not being able to take a piss anywhere for fear that someones installed a camera lol
korea is bound to have a fappening event at some point

its just considering that a lot of idols start real young and much like with jiyeons camming nudes, these people have proven they dont gaf if the person was underaged because their laws are much more lax and they will still leak the stuff

No. 367059

>>367057
>imagine not being able to take a piss anywhere for fear that someones installed a camera lol
Already happening.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45040968
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45388759

No. 367066

>>367059
one of japans biggest porn categories is spy cam shit
from toilets, to massage rooms,gynecologist appointments etc
i thought it was all faked(like porn made in america, where even amateur and voyeur stuff is actually mostly staged because of our laws) but because japan has very few laws pertaining to this and the laws they do have are rarely upholded because ~its just wimminz crying and we dont care~, its becoming even more of an epidemic, so its no surprise its becoming a thing in korea as they tend to just copy other countries trends and cultural experiences and they pretty much have the exact same laws and stances on women and privacy that japan does

the only difference is koreans arent SUPPOSED to earn money or film something sexual in nature to distribute, but more and more koreans are breaking those laws so it will be interesting to see where it leads and if stricter laws actually get enforced but im not holding out hope tbh

No. 367067

>>367043
I don't understand why companies don't take legal action towards them. Is it really worth the money? They are stalking and selling information about idols' families and company staff too. The sasaeng in the video said that she even thought about doing something illegal to take revenge against the members. They can get very close to idols, some psycho sasaeng might even try to kill them if they make a relationship public or something

No. 367075

>>367067
There was a post in the last thread i think that explained it. Some idol spoke out about it and the companies discussed that they establish a relationship with the richest site owners and fancammers basically. And all of those people are saesangs. To them it really is about profit and exposure. It goes deep and theres a ton of stuff out there if you search that shows just how fucking greedy and insane the people running kpop companies are. They dont give a FUCK about idols. Idols are a product. Whether or not they are in danger is not a concern. Hell, the fact that they make idols walk through crowded airports KNOWING these motherfuckers are perched and there have been tons of incidents where idols have been physically harmed is proof enough. Remember what happened to Jessica right before she left snsd? Her own bodyguard knocked her out in the damn airport lol. And Im pretty sure he didnt get fired or face any repercussions.

No. 367076

>>367075
samefag but by crowded airports i mean airports where fans are given notice and a schedule is given to these fansite saesangs and it spreads and mass mobs of the fans gather like vultures and can barely be physically contained when the idols walk through

No. 367077

>>367042
I didn’t watch the video whats this pedo rumor

No. 367079

File: 1549305220365.jpg (39.17 KB, 540x540, luna11.jpg)

>>367035
To me she's pretty and fits Korean beauty standards well, I don't think her problem is in the looks. But she does seem desperate for attention, and she can't find a niche or stick to one persona. She could've kept a likeable persona or found someone high enough to push her, see Jennie

No. 367080

>>367077
Considering how much Armies hate NCT (and EXO and Seventeen and basically every other boyband) I'd take it with a large grain of salt.

No. 367083

>>367077
Maybe the dating rumours with him and Yeri? They have a 4-year age difference and since Yeri was a trainee since she was 11-12 or so, maybe they're trying to insinuate that he's liked her since she was a child.

This is just my speculation so take it with a huge grain of salt

No. 367085

>>367083
that could be quite the scandal

No. 367086

File: 1549305568695.jpg (65.78 KB, 720x1280, DC2oL2gUAAEIfA2.jpg)

The Taeyong pedo thing is based on this image.

It's not from an interview or anything though, it's just some random fan's guess that they wrote down and a lot of people took as fact for some reason.

No. 367088

>>367079
Luna should have realized that she'll never have the idol glam image and try to be a trot singer or soloist like Yoon Jong Shin or Hong Jin Young. She'd probably find a wider audience too, since old people in Korea don't give a fuck about the looks of non-idol singers.

But she wants to be a tall sexy glamazon like Sulli/Krystal/Victoria were - and that's just not realistic. She's not got the self-confidence to pull that off.

No. 367089

>>367086
Kek @ Mark trying to date someone born in 1992. Shooting right for the noona fans' wallets I see, he has his priorities in order

No. 367092

>>367027
Luna stans are quick to blame SM for not promoting her, but there's really nothing that can be promoted. If she was under a smaller agency she'd never get this second chance at a comeback after her first one flopped. SM is honestly giving her more than what she's entitled to, I doubt solo promotions were part of her contract.

And if she really thinks SM is doing her dirty she's free to leave at any time and Release music under a smaller label to see whether SM was really holding her back.

No. 367093

>>367086
lol these always kill me. the bts one is funny too.
>>367089
it's not real, anon

No. 367094

>>367092
>And if she really thinks SM is doing her dirty she's free to leave at any time and Release music under a smaller label to see whether SM was really holding her back.

mte like..all the other girls are pretty much done with sm except for her and amber and ambers at least TRYING to make an effort to promote herself outside of sm and korea even

i kinda feel bad for her because all the others are recognizable and have ties to other countries/have made a name for themselves in other industries but she has no excuse for not trying

and making posts on social media about her eating disorder type lifestyle all day aint it

No. 367111

File: 1549309056930.jpg (53.5 KB, 1000x500, nejpg.jpg)

>bom, minzy, and cl release a congrats video for dara on her new mc job
>literally cant recognize any of them
lmao

No. 367117

why are some anons ITT are so desperate to hate on individual idols that they start praising their shitty agencies in the process? Luna might have an annoying personality that was soured by her ED brain, but her speaking up about getting bullied, neglected and underpaid isn’t a bad thing. I mean I doubt one woman complaining about her paycheck on a talkshow is going to produce tangible change, but at least she’s showing other girls that it’s okay to stand up for yourself. the other woman in the clip even chimed in about how her company wanted to take some of the profits she earned from her personal Youtube channel or whatever. the more people speak up about this shit, the better.

No. 367118

>>367111
>>367111

the superior yg girl group. they actually looked alive while on stage

No. 367119

>>367117
Thing is anon, everyone and their mother know by now how shitty idol agencies are. And they're not going to change anytime soon, because they've been making lots of money off these shady business practices.

Everyone calls out bad agencies all the fucking time. Amber did the exact same thing last year, Key called out SM for showing extra favouritism to Taemin and Onew, Taeyeon regularly shits on SM whenever she gets a chance. She's not the first SM idol to call out her agency and won't be the last. Despite all this complaining, SM will not do jack shit because their business practices aren't even out of line by Korean standards.

I think Luna is stupid for staying with an agency that she's so unhappy with. If she hates SM so much she shouldn't have renewed her contract two years ago.

No. 367121

>>367117
the problem is she still has a contract slave mentality
until she's willing to go out on her own and do her own shit shes always gonna be their product

its completely redundant when all the other girls in the group grew up and branched out except for her and shes not bothering to do shit for herself other than create a weird channel on youtube about controversial methods to lose weight and make yourself look more appealing to korean beauty standards, but is still whining

No. 367123

>>367121
Mte, lots of smaller agencies would sign her on but she wants the power and prestige of the SM name behind her.

If she wants the SM backing, she's got to accept whatever conditions they have - many agencies wouldn't even offer failing artists a renewal contract, and I'm not just talking Kpop here. Hollywood actors get dropped by their agencies all the time if they're not booking gigs. Luna had the choice to walk away and find another agency like the three SNSD girls did, but she didn't. So there's really no point complaining about a cage that she built for herself.

No. 367127

>>367118
they look alive but they look like damn impersonators lol
especially minzy wtf

No. 367132

>>367127
Looks fine to me

No. 367136

>>367132
>>367130
not saying shes ugly or anything at all just that she looks like a completely different person

idk how to embed instagram vids so i'll just link it
https://www.instagram.com/p/Btd-ca6hiLw/

No. 367141

>>367119

The irony is I think Luna is the only one who will renew her contract with SM once the 10 year mark is up. Her and Sulli, I guess.

No. 367148

>>367141
sulli is still with sm?

No. 367153

>>367136
she got work done like years ago. she looks the same.

No. 367156

>>367148

she's still with sm as like an actress though sh left fx years ago. she's been with sm since she was a kid. there's that semi creepy pic of her celebrating her birthday as a kid with lee soo man and yunho hovering over her…I doubt they'd let her go now esp since her face prints money

No. 367158

>>367156
creepy..especially considering what kind of acting roles shes taking lately

No. 367165

>>367164
less than a day old

No. 367168

>>367111
I thought this was old, because I was suprised to see Minzy with 2ne1. I check the link anon posted.

No. 367169

>>367168
well 2ne1 is basically done for good and they are all doing their own things now, its a video for dara because she got a new MC postiion

No. 367173

>>367119
>>367121
I would agree with both you if she got herself into this mess as an adult, but she's been with SM since she was like 14. her self esteem has clearly been destroyed in the past decade, she probably thinks she can't make it in the industry if she leaves SM and tbh she's probably right since SM has a reputation for sabotaging idols who leave the company. i don't think staying with SM makes her a hypocrite and i don't think that's reason enough to sit back and just be satisfied with getting paid scraps. idk maybe i'm just not jaded or cynical enough for this thread.

No. 367175

>>367173
i see where you are coming from and i bet shes really hurt by how certain members could do whatever and still have sm's backing

especially sulli who basically said "lol fuck f(x) i want dick" and stopped showing up mid promotions but sm still has her signed? i didnt know that at all and it is pretty fucked up if true

No. 367183

>>366874
Anon, blaming kpop groups for causing EDs is army-levels of mental retardation. She has confidence issues since before she knew what BP and that's probably because of her shitty family or shitty school environment. If you're so worried talk to her and be a sister instead of blaming famous people for things that haven't even happened yet

No. 367191

>>367173

I don't think she is a hypocrite either. The industry has a way of tearing people down who aren't perfect visuals. Some people can take it but some can't. Look at Jimin and how he looks like a wax figure of Chaz Bono now. Or Uee chopping up her face and body because she thought she'd make for a better 'actress'. The industry has a way of chewing you up and spitting you out. Not to mention SM probably told Luna she was ugly, fat and useless every damn day. This is the same company that used to beat TVXQ and most likely starved their female (and male idols).

Luna probably just didn't have the support circle she needed to withstand being in the same group as Krystal and Sulli. Even Jihyo probably has it better because it's not like the other members of twice are that much prettier than her and hell some of them aren't even as pretty. Plus she gets the cheerleader effect. But f(x) was always known as the group with three of the best visuals in kpop. It's not like you're a Hyoyeon in a group with Sunny, Tiffany etc. I'm not surprised she went off the rails. Not to mention SM PR goes out of its way to make their idols feel like you're nothing without them and then reinforce that by picking and choosing who gets work while the group is still popular (thus setting certain people up for future success and stunting others). It's a messed up world and I don't blame Luna for what's happened.

No. 367194

>>363254

Wait when/where did they say this? Was it recently?

>>367055

This skit they did for mnet made jungkook look big though. Guess they lied!

No. 367207

>>367194
suga was in some interview idk. and jungkook basically cried in some vlive about it where he's wearing a leather jacket and hat.

No. 367251

>>366244
They're waiting to see wtf JYP is doing

No. 367254

>>367075
What
>Jessica knocked out by her own bodguard
When the fuck did this happen?

No. 367309


No. 367310


No. 367331

>>367310
I bet the only members who truly care and know about grammys and billboard are Suga and RM. The others seem too dumb for it

And the replies under this tweet… how can armys be so stupid

No. 367338

>>366680
I also doubt bts are going to have sucessful solo careers after disbanding. They're not talented or interesting enough

No. 367376

>>367338
Don't @ me for saying this, but I think Suga had potential. I can't imagine any of them doing well solo now though, outside the already established fans.

No. 367379

>>367338
You're right, people don't care about them on a individual level. Most of they're fans are they're for the ships or the 'brotherhood/bff' shit, not because they think they have talent

The only one who has a chance at a career in the industry afterwards is Suga, with producing. He's already won an award for it with that Suran song, so Korea thinks he's competent enough

No. 367383

>>367310
>"we are NOT desperate for western validation"
>their designer gets a nomination for the album package
>"umm guess we'll go too"

No. 367388

>>367376
>>367379
At producing, I think Suga has the most potential. RM and J-Hope not much.

The others don't even know how to write their own lyrics without help, so I don't think they'll gain attention from the public lol

No. 367390

>>367194
i mean, its a funny skit, i dont think youre supposed to take it at face value

No. 367392

>>367388
suga is only good at buying things that make him look like a good producer

No. 367393

>>367194
faggot-ey

No. 367394

>>367379
>so Korea thinks he's competent enough
a bought award from an idol music award show is not an accomplishment

No. 367400

>>367310
Can't wait for the other 6 to stay mute on stage while RM does his horrible imitation of a "hip-hop" while speaking English.

They have no personality as a group when they're outside their comfortable bubble of Bighit-produced YouTube vlogs and shows. Monsta X and GOT7 recently did US promotions and even though most of those groups aren't fluent in English they were still much more engaging and interesting than BTS.

No. 367404

>>367310
you know Bighit is going to put them all in the ugliest Gucci shit to show off their ₩₩₩

No. 367407

>>367392
I know there's better producers than him. I think he has potential (although he's not versatile) if you compare him with the other members.

No. 367413

>>367400
Bighit must be crazy to think BTS can be successful in the west when they can't even bother to learn english.

It's getting more and more evident that they only care about international fans and awards when it comes to money (and mediaplay).

No. 367419

>>367173
SM doesnt block idols who finish their contracts and leave. The Shinhwa members, chaos with their group name notwithstanding, still appear on TV to promote. Seohyun and sooyoung aren't prevented from promoting either.

While I do feel for Luna as a person, the cold hard truth is that she's just not selling and she's not that marketable. SM is a business and at the end of the day they will want to focus on more profitable acts to promote.

I agree that SM hasn't given her the promotion she deserves, but SM hasn't given most of its artists promotion. She's not alone in that aspect and it's not the responsibility of the general public to purchase her music out of pity for her situation.
I just think it's unprofessional to publicly whine about her situation when she decided to renew her contract despite knowing how badly SM promotes her. If Luna wants better promotion and more control over her content, she should not be under a label whose first priority is idol groups.

I think she needs to find a niche to flourish in, like Key with fashion and Hyoyeon with DJing. She was doing well as a musical actress, she should have stuck to that and given up on trying to be the next Taeyeon. It'll be better for her sanity in the long term.

No. 367420

>>367413
um no shit? it's all about fame in korea.

No. 367425

>>367420
Yeah but in BTS' case, Korea only paid attention to them after they got international coverage. Other groups are free to ignore their international fans because their bread and butter is in Korea. BTS owes much more to their international fans than idol groups, it wouldn't hurt for them to at least act like they appreciate it.

No. 367431

>>367425
lmao why? this is a money business not a charity project

No. 367479

>>367379

Suga's success as a producer comes from BTS fans mass streaming his songs. Just like the success of BTS's solo songs. It's not because Korea recognizes their music. Their songs still aren't very high up on year end charts for a group of their caliber. YG groups like IKON and Winner have more listeners among the Korean general public than BTS.

>>367425

BTS is bringing a lot of money to the Korean economy because of their appeal to international fans. In theory they and bighit should treat them as more than just atm machines but it's the international fans themselves that happily allow themselves to be used for whatever reason. It's like they're all in some kind of cult where they've convinced themselves that their purpose in life is to make sure bts succeeds in the West in all their endavours. As long as they remain gullible and pathetic sheep they will continue to be treated like the sidechicks who have to take the alleyway out of the hotel while BTS/Bighit walk out of the front door.

No. 367480

>>367431
It's hardly "charity" to show some enthusiasm when promoting outside of Korea, anon

No. 367486

>>367413

BTS are a fad with zero public recognition in the West but are getting by off fan support and American media support (and by support I mean American media outlets have figured out that army are massively easy to make money off of and they want in before the bubble bursts). That's all well and good and helps BTS make money but regular people aren't listening to fake love and they're not taking BTS seriously. Their one English speaker sometimes sound incomprehensible and the rest of the group look and act like aliens. People acknowledge that they're a huge online thing but unless BTS can score a real hit in the West - and not a funny viral song but a song regular ppl don't mind listening to on the radio on their way to work - then their buzz will fizzle fast.

The Grammys has zero big names and no hype and falling ratings. People that watch the show that aren't Kpop fans are more likely to clown the group than praise them esp if they're just showing up to stare bug-eyed and waxy into a crowd of ppl who don't gaf about them but will take pics for social media engagements.

No. 367491

>>367486
Their fame is the Emperor's new clothes

No. 367501

>>367480
they're "promoting" in the states to promote to koreans in sk. why would they hault the money production to make fans happier when they're happy enough as it is?
getting US promo = articles in sk written about them = more popularity = getting car commercial deals

No. 367505

>>367501
I get that, and if I had the choice to earn boatloads of cash by doing the bare minimum I'd do it too.

Still, it's amazing how the international fans are so content with such little tbh.

No. 367517

>>367479
>YG groups like IKON and Winner have more listeners among the Korean general public than BTS
lol this is exactly why i laugh at anons who insist that yg is sooo bitter about bts. winner and ikon's success is the exact type of success yg is looking for. they're known for having good hit songs among the gp, not for autistic 12 year old fangirls.

No. 367587

>>367400
I watched some short interview Monsta X did with an American outlet and it was like night and day to compare them to BTS. Their English was a bit broken but they were all trying their best to talk, actually smiling, and engaging with the interview. Meanwhile everyone in BTS who isn't Ratmon just sits there silently looking like they're being held at gunpoint for US interviews.

No. 367593

>>367032
Nayeon the chinless wonder gets uglier every comeback. How the fuck anyone could be attracted to her is beyond me, even if it is Jimincel

No. 367599

>>367505
>>367480
I agree, they barely acknowledge their international fans. They use twitter to post selfies with stupid captions and always in Korean. On fancafe, they write long messages to the Korean fans saying how much they miss them and things like that, especially when they are touring in a western country. I-armys are just sides chicks but they haven’t realized it yet. Lol

No. 367603

>>367517
>winner and ikon's success is the exact type of success yg is looking for.
Eh, it's valuable to have public recognition, yeah, but if they actually care about making big money they need another Big Bang/GD doing huge tours. Popular songs in Korea don't get you that.

YG has made so much off BB they don't really have any need to be bitter, but to argue that Ikon or Winner are anywhere near BTS (or Exo, or a bunch of other SM groups doing much bigger concerts than them) in terms of profitability is just lol. And to argue that YG cares more about reputation and hit songs than money is also just lol.

No. 367678

>>367191
It's not the "industry", because if it were those people wouldn't have been selected in the first place. In America plain girls never become whatever the american version of idols are, kardashians or whatever, full stop.

No. 367690

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hope they do something about her nose

No. 367696

>>367690
Eh, she looks okay. Not a typical idol visual for sure, but much prettier than her sister

No. 367702

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>>367690
Considering how Korean nosejobs can come out, I wouldn't…

No. 367709

>>367486
Don’t Koreans think they are mainstream in America?

No. 367714

>>367690
as much as that’s a weird nose, there’s no way she’d really look better if she got a straight kpop nose instead. it’d just highlight the fact that the rest of her face is a bit strange too, at least her nose kind of fits with her upper lip and stuff. better to have a ‘unique’ look overall than ideal features contrasted with less ideal ones. it’s like how irene’s shitty skin is more noticeable because her individual features are nice

No. 367717

Bighit staff insider got paid by saesang to wear Jimincel's clothes and even got to sit next to the boys on an airplane for a pretty penny.

This is why I don't get the fans who act as if Bighit paying Dispatch is going to save their oppas from having their dirt spill out. Deals with Dispatch aint a guarantee when your own staff workers are willing to sell you out to crazies for cash.

https://twitter.com/jjimvely_1013/status/1092799973798891520

No. 367718

>>367690
come on, her nose looks fine. if anything, the kpop industry's insane beauty standards (that eventually will go out of fashion) should be criticized, not encouraged.

No. 367725


No. 367734

>>367717
why do these retards pay so much money on idols when at the end of the day, even if they get recognized, are just one psycho sasaeng amongst dozens.
it might be some people from the bighit staff selling a lot of the private information sasaengs get. i wonder if they'll fire the one who sold jimin's shirt. if they don't fire them it's like confirming that they all sell shit to sasaengs so they don't give a fuck

No. 367738

>>367717
Staff and stylists are always severely underpaid and overworked, they'll take any chance to make some money. They know they're doing the wrong thing but poverty really changes people's priorities.

The companies could just offer their staff a decent living wage to reduce the risk of them being tempted to pull shit like this, but 90% of Kpop (and hell, Korean) companies seem averse to the idea of functioning normally

No. 367750

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Blackpink is gonna debut in Good Morning America. How the hell are gonna promote in the US if they only have like 6 songs?

No. 367757

>>367750
It's only morning show debut, they don't need more songs. I would rather worry about their lack of personality

No. 367773

>>367750
Appearances aren't a big deal, they'll just sing Ddu-du-ddu-du and maybe another song. The actual interview will be a whole new level of cringe because they have no actual personality despite knowing English.

No. 367790

>>367757

Ding ding ding

The biggest issue with blackpink, aside from the musical production of their title tracks being so poor and outdated for actual real people in America to enjoy (and not brain dead Kpop fans), is their utter lack of personality. Americans won't be into 4 ana looking waifs that look like they can't string two sentences together without receiving instruction from their company first. They look and sound like awkward ninth graders in their interviews, who is going to believe them when they start acting 'hard core' on stage? Especially when they don't have the performance ability, stage presence or calorie intake to pull off the amount of energy they'd need to convince people they're viable performers?

If anything all this Kpop in America is just going to annoy a vast amount of people from the American general public because as much hype as the groups have, if regular ppl can't get into the music or the performances, then it's just weird shit kids are into that the media is throwing a bone because that's how terrible American mainstream music is now.

No. 367811

>>367690
she looks fine. just because she doesn’t look like an animu character or over-plasticized gg member doesn’t mean she’s ugly. her nose also suits her face.

No. 367813

>>367690

She's cute and looks like a mouse.

Better than these botoxed, dead-eyed top female idols who get called beautiful after chopping up their soulless faces.

No. 367830

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those lenses look so dumb kek

No. 367859

>>367830
Lots of idols wears lenses now, I don't have problem with it but yeah, it looks weird

No. 367865

>>367709
Yes. They are Korea's national pride at the moment, without anyone in sk actually knowing any of their songs except maybe fire (or wtv it's called)

No. 367911

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>>367032
Speaking of melting.

No. 367917

>>367911
Wait why did you post a cap from superstar bts instead of the full pic?

No. 367924

>>367865
That's kinda of sad lmao. They're fame is practically an illusion

No. 367936

>>367924
This thread has higher standards than most people… Idol music is not respected or popular outside of its niche even in Korea.

No. 367946

>>367936
but there are plenty of idol songs the public loves. and yet bts who portray themselves as god-tier have songs most ppl in the public don't care about meanwhile lesser boy groups have more public relevance with their music. that aint a good look

No. 367971

>>367936
A few dozen of kpop songs still reach the public. Also I know there more to music in Korea besides Kpop but does anybody know of any that’s really popular? I always see kpop, a few Korean rappers and American stars.

No. 368000

>>367971
boring acoustic ballads by random solo artists are the most popular

No. 368030

>>367750
No body in their target demographic will be watching good morning america, they'll be in fucking school anyway.

No. 368031

>>367773
Inb4 Jennie, Rose and Lisa's Australian/ Newzeland/ Thai accents make their English come out as gibberish.

No. 368032

>>368000
The interesting thing is that even though acoustic/ ballad/ coffee shop song artists are the rage in Korea, they don't seem to be flowing in money. Or maybe they are and it's a hidden secret.

No. 368053

https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/unbelievable-real-horror-story-idol-group-violent-producer/

Has anyone heard of this story before? A lot of people are saying it's a group called "Peernine". I really hope its not true but after hearing about that group The East Light I wouldn't be surprised..

No. 368086

>>368032
Music overall doesn't make the artists much money now. The real cash is in selling concert tickets and albums, and the general public isn't going to fork over hundreds of dollars for a digitally popular korean artist like Urban Zakapa or Bol4. The only exception to this is probably IU, but she was initially marketed like an idol and kinda still counts as one to most Koreans. Idols make more because they have fans willing to spend more on them.

No. 368270

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/02/ateen-kpop-group-asking-for-help
Apparently a rookie boy group called Ateen is accusing their CEO and his wife of sexual abuse.

I honestly hope speaking out about abuse and mistreatment in the kpop industry becomes a trend.

No. 368291

>>368053
Would be more credible if it wasn't written like a creepypasta.

No. 368299

>>368053
>Industry insiders explained that although it was a very rare scenario, B’s debut was incredibly successful.

Either it's not Peernine or it's Peernine but the account is hugely exaggerated, because Peernine weren't "hugely successful" anywhere, by any stretch of the imagination.

No. 368303

>>368270
And the day when # for them was trending, armys preffered trend their selca day. They really like bitching about justice and real problems, but when they actually can do something about it - they don't care. Just like their idols

By the way, if it's true - poor boys, I hope they'll be okay and other idols will open up about it too

No. 368304

>>368299
Maybe their debut did better than the company expected, which is "hugely successful" by their standards? Idk

No. 368308

https://twitter.com/cocoadiosa/status/1092856392141234177

i'm disgusted so i don't feel like screenshotting this i'm sorry

No. 368313

>>368308
Thanks anon, I'm now officially scarred for life

No. 368315

>>368308
Ugh.
I had seen a lot of porn videos on twitter(where armys were pretending they were with bts members), with thousands of favs and rts. It's so disgusting. And i didn't search for nsfw - i only looked up their names. Imagine if little kid found something like that

No. 368316

>>368308
i puked

No. 368342

>>368315
Jimin probably beats off to the nsfw edits armies make of him

No. 368374

>>368315
I want a link

No. 368376

>>368374
Just look up any amateur Korean/east Asian gay porn and read some fanfic on top of it. That's basically what it is.

No. 368385

>>368376
i don't really watch gay porn but k-pop fans invading gay asian porn videos has been brought up here and i've looked it up, there were more k-pop fujos than actual gay men commenting lol. i remember armys losing their shit over perez hilton tweeting something like "is anyone in bts gay?" and cupcakke tweeting about sucking jungkook's dick. they get mad when people do the exact same thing they do on twitter everyday

No. 368391

>>368376
I want to laugh at the people making it not make it myself.

No. 368397

>>368385
On Tumblr there used to be whole porn blogs dedicated to porn of idol lookalikes.

No. 368400

>>368391

Nta but I found this twitter acc https://mobile.twitter.com/incubts its nsfw obviously

No. 368404

>>368000
>>367971
>>368032
My guess is that the Korean GP is like the American GP in that most people will say that they hate pop music and only like x indie artist for cool points (esp in Korea where image is everything) but really secretly jam to whoever's the most popular when they're alone and without the judgement of others, especially with the connotations being a fan of idol groups brings

No. 368405

>>368400
Oh goodness that Twitter makes these comparisons like "they look so much like yoonseok" when these random gay asians don't even look like their faves.

I can't tell if they're just so ignorant that they think all slightly effeminate asian dudes look the same, or if they're just projecting so they can believe it more when they touch themselves.

No. 368407

>>368405
>projecting
i mean a lot of fujos have fakeboi tendencies

No. 368432

>>367750
Tickets for the european tour got on sale recently and the cheaptest seats are almost 170 euros lol. 170 euros for lazy jennie, her backup dancers and their 6 songs.

No. 368449

>>368432
Lol, the most expensive ticket for the Epik High European tour is for 180€ and just one of them standing alone has more charisma than the whole BP put together

No. 368551

>>368400
Fuck I need brain bleach now, eww.

No. 368614

>>366785
Ughh, I don't know what it is but Joy irritates the hell out of me. She acts like she's hot shit because she's both an idol and actress but she's so bad at both. I'm not sure why she was given the "sexy" image but she's anything but.

No. 368620

>>368405
A lot of these blatant fetishists actually think all Asian dudes look the same. I've seen Kpop fans rave about Asian men saying "all Asian men are SO hot!" "Korean guys are all so handsome!" etc. just making it clear they have race-based face blindness and only obsess over these men as exotica.

No. 368623

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>>367911
You're forgetting this

No. 368636

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Commercial talk shows are so weird. Stephen Colbert used to be an actual comedian but I doubt he’s going to make any jokes at their expense since they threw around a bunch of money to be guests.

No. 368641

>>368636
Blackpink will be in America the same time as Red Velvet. Call me a conspiracy nut but YG was probably mad that RV would set foot in American soil first and wanted BP to leech off of that international attention too, shifting the spotlight off of RV. There's really no reason for them to go on American TV Shows right now when Coachella is in April, plus they have almost all of March free.

No. 368666

>>368614
I like her voice tone, but she always looks like she's in pain when acting sexy. She got a bit of attention from wearing short dresses and let that go to her head despite all her variety shows and dramas flopping (except WGM). She looks like a fucking frog without the heavy Peekaboo era makeup too.

I feel like she's the fakest out of all the Red Velvet members because her sexy persona is a far cry from who she really might be as a person.

No. 368670

>>368432
The concerts are in the middle of exam season too, they'll be performing in half-empty arenas. But watch YG mediaplay about how BP successfully filled a 20k seat arena and how they're so much better than BTS etc etc

No. 368677

>>368670
yg talking shit about bts is amusing because neither bp or bts make amazing music but isn't it true that they make better numbers than bts? idk about concerts but they debuted 3 years later and have like 3 songs, but their total view count is almost the same as bts.

No. 368686

2 other YG groups are better in numbers than BTS too. Armys streaming doesn't count after week, because at the end, rest of Korea don't care.

No. 368768

>>368686
Its hard to gauge public interest of a K-POP group from chart data since it’s so easy to manipulate.

No. 368769

>>368686
It's not like Korea cares about Blank Pink either, all their views are from SEA and they stan-stream as much as armys.

No. 368800

>>368677
YouTube views literally do not matter. IU doesn't get anywhere near the numbers BTS does. Neither do most mainstream Korean artists who are actually liked by the public. YouTube views are just the result of stans zombie streaming to feel like they contributed to their faves success somehow.

No. 368803

>>368769
They're definitely well-known in Korea but reputation and likeability wise it's Twice first, then Red Velvet and GFriend before BP. I remember blinks getting salty over this one critic who said that twice/RV/GFriend are the top three girl groups in Korea.

No. 368806

>>368614
I think she's really cute, but her voice is so… not nice to hear. It sounds like a frog with a plastic ball stuck in its throat. Worst voice of RV for sure

No. 368811

>>368800
of course internationally popular groups have more views than artists who are only popular in korea? how else do you determine if a song is popular or not, views do matter in order to show how many obsessed fans a group has and they are the ones making bank

No. 368816

>>368803
gfriend stagnated very early into their career though. they peaked before fingertip came out and have barely done anything of note since then. they just debuted quite early for that gen of girl groups (before ioi) and got notable very early on for debuting with a better version of into the new world, then got viral for the fancams of them falling. me gustas tu and rough were big hits, and since then they’ve been steady but that’s about it. gfriend are more established but i’d still bet on blackpink doing better overall in 2019

No. 368830

Saged for ot, when the anti Korean culture thread got locked did it also become a banned topic? Asking here because this thread is closest in relevancy

No. 368831

>>368816
You're righg, fingertip flopped and so did sunny summer, but Time for the moon night did pretty well. They're not a big 3 company group with readymade bandwagon stans so their popularity largely depends on how well their their songs do, like Mamamoo.

Personally I think JYP's new group, itzy, will probably be the biggest competitor to blackpink when it comes to sound and image - BP have been robbing an empty house because there really wasn't any other "girl crush" group to compete with. G-idle are too new and not from a big 3 company.

No. 368833

>>368806
She can't enunciate properly at all. I saw some scenes of a drama she was in and every time she talked like she had marbles in her mouth. I used to think Yeri had the worst voice in RV, but she's been sounding less nasally in their recent songs so that dubious honour goes back to Joy again

No. 368864

>>368811
Koreans don't use Youtube. Clicking on thr video =/= buying the album/merch/concert ticket
 

No. 368867

>>368641

There is no spotlight on Red Velvet in America because no one cares about them. YG threw money around to try and get these girls gigs out of his insane jealousy towards BTS and this was probably the only time they could slot them in.

I don't know why kpop fans 'debut' in Late night shows like it'll do anything. Most of the people who watch Stephen Colbert are older liberals 30+ of age they won't be interested in an ana girl group from korea. GMA also doesn't do much unless you're already a huge artist or you have a viral moment. The only people who consume these performances are people who are already fans.

No. 368868

>>368811
Melon/Mnet charts are a very good way to gauge how popular a song is, Koreans actually use those platforms. One deranged fan viewing a song 5000 times doesn't make her 5000 views authentic

No. 368871

>>368867
nta but I think that anon meant spotlight from Korean media. K media will go nuts over anything Korean gaining any kind of American attention - see BTS, most Koreans don't listen to their music but appreciate them because they think BTS is big in the West.

I don't think SM even wants to try and advance RV in America (honestly I feel like the whole group was set up for failure and was just a means to get Irene and Seulgi attention, but now they have a few hit songs and are outperforming NCT so SM can't get rid of them), they're doing this tour so they can mediaplay about it to the Korean public.

No. 368872

>>368670

no they'll fill the arenas in the same way they filled tokyo dome - by discounting the fuck out of the tickets and giving away the rest.

No. 368874

>>368769

Plus blinks have less videos to stream. Kinda easy to rack up the views when your fave group only has 5 videos to watch

No. 368875

>>368872
All that just to brag about BP doing a Dome concert before Twice? That's actually pathetic.

No. 368878

>>368875

and yet yg still has stans!

No. 368879

>>368878
I swear he was born with a horseshoe up his ass, he's lucked into having multiple successful groups under his belt despite knowing nothing about business and being a fucking creep

No. 368887

Despite being a jerk, YG is businessman, of course he wants to promote their groups. I don't know why you're so pressed about it guys

No. 368896

>>368887
You call him Papa YG too, don't you anon

No. 368917

>>368896
Well, no. Maybe I respect him as an artist, but he's an asshole and some of his decisions are stupid (which is funny thing too, because some stans are acting like he's the only one in charge). You don't get my point tho

No. 368922

File: 1549560097769.gif (1.49 MB, 405x270, YG dancing.gif)

>>368917
>I respect him as an artist
Ah yes, such talent

No. 368928

>>368887
yg gets a disproportionate amount of hate for what he does compared to other CEOs/founders. and i don't mean that he gets criticised unfairly, i mean it's weird how issues with jyp or sm groups are just issues but any issue with blackpink is yg's fault, personally. like when the lazy jennie videos were being taken down and people really believed it was yg himself sitting in his office and copyright striking them. i want to see as many people making digs at jyp for throwing TWO older girl groups under the bus, pimping out an underage tzuyu, that mess with the taiwan flag, everything like that under every twice accomplishment the same way that every blackpink article gets the same 2ne2, yg loves jennie, dungeon comments.

yg and his groups get the kind of harsh criticism it'd be nice to see aimed at every shady company and group. blackpink are one of the only groups i can think of where the kind of things people say about them here are still the same things that neutral people would say about them on other sites

No. 368943

Can someone please give me the 411 on Bts? Are they extremely popular in the west and Korea or not? Or is it just very good media play? Them selling over a million copies for their album(s)((?)), the yt views, all their daesang awards, the fact armies are every where like roaches ,all the articles about them and other stuff made me think they are really popular (like 1Direction level of fame) but some people keep saying they're not and others are and I'm really confused.

No. 368945

>>368941
Yg's a pedo who sabotaged his wife's group so…I don't feel even the tad bit sad for him

No. 368946

>>368922
I'm talking about SeoTaiji&Boys, his voice and dacing weren't that bad + it was 20 years ago. Why are you so angry at me anyway? I'm not his fan, just trying to discuss things

>>368928
That's what I'm talking about. I had seen 20k people wishing him death. And it's funny for me when YG is blamed for /everything/. He did a lot of shit personally, but it's not like he's the only one deciding about things. I understand that you're angry, but wishing a man death because your uNnIeS didn't get comeback is pathetic.
Literally no one cares about JYP who is the just as much an asshole.

No. 368947

>>368928
JYP and SM don't insist on shoving their ugly faces into every aspect of their groups though - okay, JYP does, but do people even remember what Lee Soo Man looks like?

The hate for YG is because he is so unbelievably narcisstic that he takes all the credit for his groups' successes and is an overall unpleasant fuckhead to deal with. People wouldn't think he runs everything at the company if he didn't give them that impression.

SM is shady and abusive but Lee Soo Man himself isn't known to be as vile a person as YG, I wouldn't trust him with my bank account but that's about it.

I agree with you about JYP though, he's very good at putting on a fake humble "family-friendly" facade which is extremely irritating.

No. 368948

>>368945
No one said he's innocent

No. 368951

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VIPs acting like Seungri is a victim when he was advertising that rape central club right and left, visited the place regularly (with photographic evidence), and is best buds with real owner.

No. 368955

>>368951
Fans have canceled tickets to his concerts, thank fuck it's hitting him where it hurts

No. 368964

>>368922
Is he having a seizure?

No. 368966

>>368666

Wow, so I'm not the only one who noticed Joy being completely full of herself at one point. Don't know why, she's failing at pm everything she's being given.

No. 368968

>>368943
They are popular anon, that's just it. I don't know why are you giving it second thoughts. The ones that say they are not are probably other kpop fans who are salty about it but eh

No. 368971

>>368943
anons itt might not want to admit it, but bts are easily at 1d’s level of fame now. you can find their merch at walmarts in bumfuck ohio and the cheapest back-end brooklyn boutiques. rest assured though, their hype will die down within a year or two when they start leaving to the military and a new edgy/flower boy group will take their place. who knows, maybe we’ll be begging for armys to come back when txt’s toxic fandom explodes. like how crazy exo-ls don’t seem that bad in retrospect compared to ratmys now lol

No. 368975

>>368966
Two flop dramas, missed out on North Korea and many important group schedules, and she still thinks she's hot shit. Not gonna lie I wish I had that kind of confidence kek

No. 368976

>>368943
They are popular in general as a group but not as popular as 1D's members as individuals, there's not going to be a BTS member who'll do as well as Harry Styles or Zayn after BTS starts to flop. These album sales mostly come from bulk buying, if it was the count of the purchasers and not purchases it would be way lower than a million and their views also mostly come from mass streaming, but at the end of the day they still have these numbers attached to their name.
I know that they have a lot of Korean sasaengs obsessed with them and they are seen as the "internationally popular group", but I don't know if the general public takes them seriously

No. 368977

>>368971

I'd say BTS is a step below 1D right now. They're not selling the same amounts of albums (though it's hard considering that gaon and hanteo aren't really legitimate charts for counting sales) and the most important thing: they lack American hits. 1D had public relevance in America because of one or two hits that were known in the country and thus which gave them hits that were known world wide. Harry Styles was also a house hold name in America for a time.

BTS's music is largely consumed by their fans. Even the general public of Korea would rather listen to other boy groups before BTS. Aside from their fans and media oulets who have to learn about/tweet about BTS to better make money off of their fans, few regular people care about them.

No. 368983

>>368976

Yes they lack general public relevance. I'm curious to see how their appearance at the Grammys will work out. If Bighit was smart, they would have released a song with Ed Sheeran or whoever this week so at least regular people watching the show (the few that will bother to watch the Grammys in 2019) have something to go by. Right now most people among the general public don't know who they are and if they know a bit about them it's that they're a weird asian group kids and otakus seem to be obsessed with. They're basically an internet fad to most regular people. It would have been way smarter for them to introduce themselves via the Grammys through a performance of a song that people can download so people can see what they're actually about.

No. 368985

>>368983
They're not confirmed to be performing yet but I wouldn't rule that out, seeing how desperate the grammys are to salvage their failing TV ratings. Plus most big stars like Drake, Ariana and Beyonce won't attend either.


>people can see what they're actually about

The West doesn't actually give a flying fuck about letting BTS "prove themselves" or whatever. They just want whatever clout they can leech from fanatic armys. It's why they gave them the most inconsequential Grammy "nomination" (that isn't even for them, it's for their designers) because they think of BTS as a weird fad that they don't want to give any legitimacy to.

No. 368987

>>368977
This is very true. Even with just Gangnam Style, psy seems to be more famous on a tangible level with the American GP.

No. 369030

>>368987
PSY never had such a large fandom to back him out. It was the internet curiosity about what he would do next after the viral hit that was Gangnam Style. Even his collab with Snoop Dog did fairly well with general interest but started to fall off a lot after that.

No. 369032

>>368975
The fact that she missed out on North Korea and the Olympics for her terrible acting career. I get that she was currently filming a drama but she definitely lost out on some good opportunities. The only thing she has to show for it is her shitty acting and frog like face.

No. 369045

>>369030
Right, but people still do know his name. And he is still a superstar in Korea, bigger than even BTS. He'll likely outlast BTS in the long run - he doesn't need another viral hit to have a great career.

No. 369053

>>368968
>>368971

Are they really though? Their latest albums barely sold 200.000 copies in the US. I'm not American, but is that a lot? Compared to the millions of albums 1D sold in the US? I still believe that it's mostly the internet echochamber thats amplifying their popularity.

No. 369067

I thought y'all were exaggerating with joy's acting skills so I looked them up and it's worst than I thought. She looks constipated half the time and lacks emotion and because of that a lot of her lines fall flat. I'd be so embarrassed if I was her. Oh god.

No. 369068

>>365940
Update: Hyuna posted new pics and the flattering look was indeed an old pic. She's looking same as always, brassy ratty hair, hobo clothing.

No. 369074

>>369053
Ariana Grande's last album also sold 200k copies in the US and she's the top pop girl right now. CD sales are just dying in general.

No. 369086

>>368977
>Harry Styles was also a house hold name in America for a time.
Exactly this.
People know the individual members, or at least recognize them as "this is the guy from [insert group/band]". Put a bts member or any other kpop idol somewhere alone and not even koreans will be able to recognize them. They're not seen as individuals, people only know and like them when they come with the whole package - all their other members.
Girl/boy groups only last a short time and seeing how no one but ratmonster makes an effort to learn english… good luck trying to book gigs on c-grade korean comedy shows in 10 years. Nobody in america will ever remember you.

No. 369095

>>368977
Harry Styles was never a household name. I didn’t even learn the name of the 1D guys until after they broke up and it was on gossip sites. I wasn’t interested in them so it was really easy to tune them out. BTS is probably the same to most normies who don’t know kpop, they just tune it out.

No. 369108

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Who was in charge of izone's come back? The dumpster site is not kawaii at all..

No. 369110

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>>369067
And of course one of the comments has to be about Joy being lesbian. Why some kpop fans talk about idols as gay kings and lesbian queens?

No. 369126

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>>369068
idgi, does she genuinely think she looks good or what

No. 369142

It's weird to watch this vanilla little girls trying to act tough.

No. 369148

>>369110

The obsession with painting every single idol as "uwu smol bottom gay bean" or "confident man hating lesbian in love with all her group mates" is so cringey. Of course not ever idol is straight but the obsession kpop fans have with idols' sexuality is so weird. Maybe I'm just nitpicking idk.

No. 369150

>>369142


The concept doesn't really fit them imo.

No. 369158


No. 369164

>>369158
TOP FUCKING KEK those tattoos look like shit.

No. 369165

>>369158
Girl gets retarded tats. Ratmys immediate reaction:
>uhm, but did you ask for big hit's permission? Are you stealing Oppas' art?

V is probably having a good laugh. All those western "whores" fawning over some shit he came up within 30 seconds and then sold as "deep" art.

No. 369187

>>369142
It feels wrong watching this when they're barely 18… and the nasally rapper voice doesn't help at all. Feels like another boombayah-type song. Empty.

No. 369201

>>368951
Seeing this gif makes me realise how ugly jennie actually is

No. 369203

>>368975
In all honesty she's giving me sulli 2.0 vibes with the try hard sexy image and missing out on rv's promotion. Wouldnt be surprised if she ended up like her.

No. 369210

>>369203
she even looks like sulli… it's scary…

No. 369211

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>>369158
I got secondhand embarassment reading this, like seriously? People gets Mona Lisa tattoo all the time and nobody is giving the credit to ol man da vinci but then its kind of a big deal when some kpop autist makes the art (i wouldnt bother calling him an artist)

No. 369253

>>369211
how can anyone consider Taehyung’s childish drawings as art

No. 369255

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>>369201
Yes, she’s not attractive. I don’t understand the hype

No. 369256

>>367392
Yeah. I will never understand why people make Suga out to be this genius producer. I won't deny he is good, however. It's just that we have never actually seen him solely produce a hit all by himself. The (PROD. SUGA) on Wine – aka his only hit as a producer that was mainly fuelled by ARMYs – is decieving, since Supreme Boi was also credited for it in the production department. Apparently he produces a song every day, yet we never see these make the album final cuts. It's always Pdogg we're seeing in the credits list.

He's a better producer than he is a rapper, at least. I find him very overrated in that department.

No. 369258

>>369255
tbh she's going to age really poorly. she has no real bone structure to back up how fleshy her face is. she's already getting jowls. no disrespect to her, but that kind of sucks.

No. 369261

>>369258
Exactly, she has a thin body but her face is round and fat, it doesn’t match very well

Her face is this pic reminds me of rapmonster lol

No. 369267

Also i think it’s funny how Koreans love to say they age better than westerners when the truth is that their skin only looks “better” because it’s darker and not pale as they think

And they’re more prone to sagging thanks to their bone structure than others

No. 369271

>>369211
did taehyung get permission from the artists he copies in all his drawings?

No. 369272

>>369255
She has nice features but her face does look really doughy and shapeless. If this is how fat her face looks when she's so skinny, she's going to get five chins if she gains a little weight.

No. 369274

>>369142
I liked the floor choreography but that voice, good lord. Also the girl in the middle's expression looks like a fake FaceApp smile.

No. 369278

>>369203
She's not going to have anywhere near Sulli's level of recognition, not when Irene is in the same group and Seulgi and Wendy keep getting songs and collaborations. The only thing giving her any relevance is We Got Married, and the guy she was partnered with is now one of Korea's biggest rising actors while she's literally a nobody to most Koreans.

No. 369279

So who is this generation's Suzy? Is it Nayeon?

No. 369280


No. 369320

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>>369274
Lmao yes

No. 369321

>>369261
Did she get a jaw shave? I wonder what caused such sagging skin

No. 369323

>>369142
The girl at the end look absolutely insane, jump scare material.

No. 369334

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>>369320
Is this yuna btw? Girl only looks good when she keeps her mouth closed

No. 369335

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Apparently blinks sperged out in dj snakes dms about not following all of the members of blackpink (he only followed Lisa) to the point where he cancelled a possible upcoming collab with them and unfollowed Lisa as well lmao

No. 369336

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No. 369344

>>369335
>>369336
god blinks are retarded. some groups don't have individual accounts to avoid this kind of dumb drama, fans would throw a tantrum if someone they collaborated with didn't follow all 10 members

No. 369346

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>>369158
Embarrassing.

No. 369347

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Should've just gotten actual Basquiat tattooed (or maybe even Keith Haring) instead of one irrelevant man's tacky doodles. I just love how Taehyung is so quick to take "inspiration" from black men.

Well… he's at least got the misogyny most of them harbor down.

No. 369374

>>369335
My god I can never understand drama about not following people (or following the 'wrong' person for that matter), why do they give a shit? Not just Kpop but in general this is insane to me

No. 369459

>>369142
That rap is atrocious and the girl in the middle has the most uncomfortably fake smile I've ever seen. What a bad teaser.

No. 369460

>>369255
Looks like a mouth breather

No. 369462

>>369280

And she's nowhere near Suzy's relevance. Hell, she couldn't even pull a Hyeri or a Seolhyun at their peak. Netizens are still calling Irene old and short. Yikes, this generation's a bust.

No. 369464

>>369335

Blinks saying DJ Snake is "unprofessional" and using BlackPink for clout when Taki Taki outsold all of Kpop in 2018. BTS would die to have a Taki Taki. They would sell Jungkook to get one.

It just goes to show that when Kpop fans insist that their faves (like Blackpink) can make it in America, they're saying this from a perspective of being so delusional about the American market they can assume someone with hits like Lean On and Taki Taki needs a Kpop group to boost his career when all they can boast is that Dua Lipa collaboration snatching Top 10 in Ireland or something LMAO

No. 369471

>>369335
>>369336
LMAO, they basically sabotaged the group they love so much. Well played, blinks

No. 369482

>>369374
I believe it's become a competition. Just like how people compare the followers count of each snsd members. I do think it's dumb and unnecessary, but it's the way it is.

No. 369492

>>369464
they called Dua Lipa a cloutchaser for working with them too. Dua Lipa and DJ Snake don't need BP's clout that consists of 12 year old Korean girls and SEA kboos. Songs like Taki Taki, Lean On, Turn Down for What and New Rules probably outsold Blackpink's entire 5 song discography lmao what do you mean

Blackpink would benefit a lot from working with a DJ who has produced multiple massive hits but you know the autistic fans have to ruin everything. It's like k-pop fans don't want their faves to interact with any other celebrity and socialize like normal humans

No. 369515

>>369462
She's still the most relevant out of all third gen idols except Kang Daniel though. Her face is plastered all over Korea and she just replaced IU as the face of a soju brand. I'd say she's pretty relevant. Knetz calling her old and short won't change the fact she earns lots of CF cash.

No. 369572

>>369492

YG is shoving BP down everyone's throats as much as possible - even booked them a Grammy pre-showcase. But they're using the same tactic as sm did with NCT back in Sept-Oct. Let BTS go to America, drum up hype about "k-pop" and then once they leave American soil, let another k-pop group swoop in and try to get the tail wind of American interest in the k-pop narrative. The second BTS left America, NCT was in LA for their whirlwind American promo that ended up being a total flop. And at least they had something to promote - a new album, a new song. Meanwhile, BP are going to be performing I'm assuming the Korean version of Du-Du-Du at the showcase on Saturday, GMA on Monday and Stephen Colbert on Tuesday. The problem is, only K-pop fans and Koreans with bad taste actually find those songs enjoyable to listen to. NCT's "Regular" sounded more Western that D4 and they even had an English version. None of it helped.

The songs are stale and dated, the girls have zero performance/singing skills, they all look like weird ana anime characters and the second they open their mouths for an interview, viewers will be shocked and disgusted by how they sound like scripted 10 year olds. Nothing about this project makes any sense whatsoever, but SM and YG just can't let it go that BTS pulled the rug out from under them.

If anything, all the K-POP promotions in the West will only expose how subpar the content is and how crazy and annoying the fans are. The DJ Snake vs. Blinks incident is just the beginning. That entire fiasco occurred because just like the companies, the fans overestimated their faves' potential for the American market.

Strangely enough, JYP is the only company that doesn't seem to care anymore about getting American validation. I guess they learned their lesson.

No. 369573

When will kpop fans realize America doesn't take their faves seriously. When DJ Snake saw it was more trouble than it was worth he shoved that collab into the trash. BTS doesn't even get mainstream respect. Why do they think BlackPink will?

No. 369609


No. 369612

>>369572
Unlucky for Blackpink, BTS will likely snatch all the spotlight because the American media is more familiar with them and the armys are a million times more fanatic than blinks.

>JYP is the only company that doesn't seem to care anymore about getting American validation

JYP probably knows that Twice's sound and image is too cutesy for the American market. If Itzy have a promising debut he'll likely try to push them in America.

No. 369814

>>369464
Right lmao. They claim that BP "doesn't need" DJ Snake, when a relevant DJ with actual GP support and real radioplay is exactly what BP needs to make in the West. These appearances on daytime TV shows aren't going to boost the public support, just look at BTS. Well, the Blinks just shot themselves in the foot by pissing him off and potentially scaring off any other popular Western musicians that may take an interest in collabing with BP.

No. 369819

>>369492
>It's like k-pop fans don't want their faves to interact with any other celebrity and socialize like normal humans

They really don't. I've seen posts begging BTS to not go to a Grammy afterparty and engage with the "sinful activities the Americanz will be doing", even though it would be a perfect chance for their faves to gain some connections in the industry. If they slunk back off to their hotel to do a Vlive it'd make them look bad.

It's like they forget these kpop idols are grown adults that can have friends they may dislike, and not children for them to handhold & guide away from any potential ~danger~. I hope we one day see a kpop idol start dating a "Scandalous" Western Celebrity. The breakdown that clash would cause for Koreaboos would be so funny.

No. 369821

I had no idea that blackpink have instagram and holy shit, how come they have so many followers…?

And judging by their pictures they really don't work or rather don't do anything at all…
Imagine spending years learning just 5 songs, but making millions with that…

No. 369843

>>369819

How much networking can the whole group do when only one speaks coherent English?

No. 369846


No. 369863

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This is where BTS will be sitting at the Grammy's and AMRY are already complaining about how they split them up.

No. 369910

I wonder if the BP girls secretly cursed at blinks when they found out they had been cancelled by dj snake lmao. It was a chance for jennie's backup dancers to stand out then boom their own fans ruined everything

No. 369914

>>369863
you know one of the evil womynz sitting around the pure innocent oppars without the halal kpop gap is going to get shit either way, armys will be mad whether they are too further apart from bts or too close to them.

No. 369918

>>369572
Apparently this is YG's prediction on BP's success in American and European markets lol. They really think BP can replace Spice Girls.

https://www.kpopmap.com/yg-entertainment-announces-next-blackpink-solo-debut-more/

>How do you forecast BLACKPINK’s entry in the US market as a producer?


“This is only my personal and subjective analysis.

There haven’t been popular girl groups in the US and Europe for the past few decades,

as the last group I remember is ‘Spice Girls’, the 5-member girl group that made debut back in 1996.

It is probably because not many girl groups made debut itself, due to the cultural system.

Therefore, I am hoping and expecting that the US and European market will be a blue ocean for BLACKPINK.

These expectations came from the data analysis on BLACKPINK.

When you look at the YouTube view analysis by country of “DDU-DU DDU-DU”, BLACKPINK’s latest release, the largest amount of revenue was generated in the US. The US was ranked at no. 5 on the number of view counts, Brazil and Mexico at no. 7 and no. 9, and France, Russia, UK, and Germany all ranked within no. 20. If BLACKPINK’s overseas promotion begin in full-scale, we are expecting those numbers to rise accordingly.

When I recently met Lucian Grainge, the chairman of Universal Music Group, and president John Janick of Interscope Records in the US to discuss terms,

I felt that they have a lot of affection towards BLACKPINK and reaffirmed that they are passionate on setting up a successful promotion plan.”

No. 369922

>>369846
How do you even make a college course solely about a random third gen kpop group? Has BTS really even 'accomplished' anything relevant other than that dumb UN speech? By relevant I don't mean breaking Youtube view records or selling X number of albums, because that's just their delusional fans who are doing the work.

>"Additionally, we will dive into the intricate world they have created through their album concepts and videos, also known as, “Bangtan Universe."


So they're basically going to be harping on about fan theories of their music videos which can literally be found on Tumblr. Hard to believe that people who got into Cal are wasting their money/time on a bullshit course like this.

No. 369924

>>369918
>last group I remember is the Spice Girls

Um what??? That’s a fucked up analysis.

Destinys Child became one the best selling girl groups of all time with both touring and album sales. BP would not even be a faux-rnb-pop group if it weren’t for DC.

The pussycat dolls also did well in touring and sold millions of records for years. Korea was obsessed with them at their peak. UK groups like Little Mix and Fifth Harmony weren’t huge by any means, but their hit songs did receive significant radio play and public recognition even here in North America. I could go on and on.

No. 369926

>>369863
Why do I get the feeling that Grammy officials seperated them on purpose kek

Im pretty sure since they're in America they'll be like deer in headlights, communicating with nobody. That's why they skip the after parties…bitches only like em for their fanbase.

No. 369927

>>369918
>There haven’t been popular girl groups in the US and Europe for the past few decades, as the last group I remember is ‘Spice Girls’, the 5-member girl group that made debut back in 1996.

I can't believe he thinks his car crash of a group could do better than destiny's child, girls aloud, pcd, little mix or 5h. It sounds like 1996 was the last time he even bothered paying attention to international ggs. Just because something doesn't happen right under your nose doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

No. 369955

>>369126
hyuna seemed so normal up until lip & hip era. she's like a completely different person now.

No. 369974

>>369918

The whole analysis is fucked, but this: "When you look at the YouTube view analysis by country of “DDU-DU DDU-DU”, BLACKPINK’s latest release, the largest amount of revenue was generated in the US. The US was ranked at no. 5 on the number of view counts, Brazil and Mexico at no. 7 and no. 9, and France, Russia, UK, and Germany all ranked within no. 20. If BLACKPINK’s overseas promotion begin in full-scale, we are expecting those numbers to rise accordingly."

Made me laugh out loud. This man will die before he admits most of BP's hype and profit comes specifically from South East Asia.

No. 369976

>>369927

Don't forget TLC. They started in the early 90s but they had hits into the early 00s. I'm pretty sure YG's girl group Swi.T (the one he sabotaged to marry one of the members) was based off of them too.

No. 369978

>>369843
Ngl I forgot about their lack of English language skills because I've never sat through a full video of their American promotions. Mb.

No. 370012

>>369863
I like how the other artists are named but BTS is just BTS. They couldn't be fucked to Google member names kek, I guess they'll just shove random members into seats

No. 370032

>>369914
For her sake I hope Anna Kendrick stays off Twitter on Grammy night

>>369918
I heard similar glowing plans of Western advancement with 2ne1. Look how that played out.

>France, Russia, UK, and Germany all ranked within no. 20

Johnny Johnny Yes Papa videos rank higher than that, no.20 is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. He should stick to ripping off SEA fans.

No. 370035

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yeah because the woman has nothing else to do than listening to bts act autistic all night to give twitter stans the reports

No. 370076

>>369974
I am just amazed at how these racist koreans insist on hating SEA fans when they make up the majority of their fans lol

No. 370120

>>370035
DOLLY MF PARTON, self-made legendary singer and songwriter, and Taehyung, another over glorified soulless boy band member, AN ICONIC DUO?

The ignorance of that fucking statement.

Why not bring back backstreet boys and have them do a colab with frank sinatra's ghost while we're at it.

I haven't been this disproportionately offended about mediocrity leeching off greatness since Madonna sampled ABBA. jfc

No. 370133

>>370035
Armys really think everyone lives on Twitter like they do huh

No. 370200

So BlackPink, Red Velvet, BTS, Crush, Wanna One's DaeWhi and maybe Lay will all be in L.A. today. It will be a Koreaboo haven with fans, media, fansites and saesangs all trying to get a glimpse of their mediocre faves.

Shippers are already going wild but worst of all are the rosekook shippers who insist Jungkook and Rose from BP are fucking. There's even been some Chinese saesangs who said they dated from March to September already. I wonder if they share botox secrets and compete over whose singing is more disastrous.

This weekened will be very annoying.

No. 370204

>>370200
i actually wish someone in bts dated publicly so that armys can calm the fuck down but what's so special about this goo goo gaga emo manlet that makes everyone ship him with a lot of people way out of his league

No. 370207

>>370204

Is Rose really out of Jungkook's league? Looking at those predebut pictures idk…

No. 370212

>>370207
idk what she looked like predebut but i think she's okay in her current form. i've seen him getting shipped with iu, yeri, eunha, lisa, tzuyu, well everyone in bp and twice in general, and it's always him in particular. most of these girls are pretty cute and deserve better than a socially inept manchild imo

No. 370215

>>369918
>>369927
Has Blackpink even sold more than twice?

No. 370217

>>370212

Just like fanboys overate their botoxed female faves fangirls overate their ugly male faves. They all probably have shit personalities anyway. Though I agree JK is a socially inept manchild, but none of it matters anyway. When JK gets out of the army he will be after girls half his age meanwhile all the female idols once they are 25 and older will either try to secure an actor, doctor/dentist, or a ceo. It's the circle of life.

No. 370279

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>>370215
No, Twice is the best-selling girl group in Korea, like of all time, if we're talking about gg who debuted after the 90s.

They've completely outsold SNSD and no group is even close to touching them. I'm genuinely surprised this fact gets overlooked, especially in this thread when the conversation is constantly RV vs BP even though the top girl group is not even a competition anymore.

I really don't know how JYP did it but now the real question is whether Itzy can bring in those types of sales with the right kind of marketing or whether Twice was a total fluke. Prior to 2016, I never would have imagined that any group even had a chance at outselling 1st and 2nd gen groups. Just goes to show that the kpop market is still malleable despite being oversaturated.

No. 370290

>>370279
i’m not familiar with kpop before about 2005, did albums in the first gen have photocards and stuff? twice albums are absolutely crazy with the amount of versions and photocards and everything, an album that only has one version and minimal collectibles is going to have far more organic sale numbers. i think it’s oricon charts that limit numbers to be like 3 sales max per person, i’d love to see what bts and twice’s numbers are like if each buyer only counted as one sale. i can’t do the maths, but if anyone’s into that i’d love to see what it looks like if 10% of the audience buys 3 copies, 20% buy 2 copies etc. seeing grown men on reddit ask if 7 copies of a dreamcatcher album is enough this time is hilarious, it’s not sustainable

No. 370301

>>370279
Anon, seriously? Learn to differentiate between physical and digital sales.

No. 370312

>>370301
…What on earth does that have to do with how well Twice albums are selling.

No. 370336

>>370279
>I really don't know how JYP did it

Multiple versions/photocards plus Japanese fans bulk buying, that's how. I remember at one point SM had 30 versions of the same EXO album out, which was a major factor in boosting their album sales.

No. 370349

>>370290
It's hard to say for certain because it would depend on the group and company in question.

But even in the early 00's Shinwha, SS501, tvxq etc fans were accused of lining up at record stores even days in advance before drop dates to bulk purchase copies and sometimes fanclub owners would secure thousands of copies to sell back to community members, I guess to cover fans who couldn't make it to the shops on release days.

I'm not sure how S.E.S or Fin.K.L albums were packaged in terms of photocards but i'm sure SM and DSP didn't fuck around when it came to marketing and enticing fans to purchase bulk copies. At the end of the day, companies will do what they can to make fans purchase as many copies as possible, it's the sales charts such as Gaon and Oricon that are held accountable in terms of evaluating the autheticity of a product's popularity (whether it be albums, singles, DVDs etc).

>>370301
Their methodologies have adapted to the digital era. Whether we're talking Billboard, Gaon, Oricon or whatever, the onus falls on them to analyze sales in a consistent manner, even if the purchasing formats have changed over time.

I mean, obviously Katy Perry, Rihanna, Ariana have never sold as many physical albums as Michael Jackson or Madonna. Yet they still have just as many billboard #1 releases and singles that have sold millions of digital copies, which is considered comparable because otherwise it's apples vs oranges.

Anyways, if you look up press reports you'll find that Twice's sales are considered remarkable by every measure.

https://www.sbs.com.au/popasia/blog/2018/12/06/twice-are-first-girl-group-surpass-3m-sales-gaon-charts

>They've become the first girl group to ever surpass 3 million in total sales. Counting sales on 10 releases from October 2015 to November 2018, they've sold 3,048,409 copies!

No. 370362

>>370279
>I'm genuinely surprised this fact gets overlooked
I haven't really seen anyone claim that Twice don't sell, anon. A lot of people here just don't like their music that's why there's not much talk about them.

No. 370366

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half of them look like pimps while the other half looks like they are on their way to a religious cult meetup

No. 370369

>>370366
Someone please tell RM that jutting his nonexistent chin forward won't make it look any bigger

No. 370370

>>370290
> seeing grown men on reddit ask if 7 copies of a dreamcatcher album is enough this time is hilarious

Link?

No. 370386

>>370366
Jimin looks like a flasher in that trench coat

No. 370389

>>370366

So did they all run blindly through a florida branch of jc penney to get these looks or…?

No. 370398

>>370366
Jin’s outfit gives me Indian or Middle Eastern dad vibes

No. 370449

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>>370035
>REEE Disgusting westerner with her gigantic tits out is sitting next to Tae!!! Look at his eyes, our poor baby is so uncomfortable, she really should have educated herself about Korean culture beforehand…

No. 370453

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>>370366
i couldn't believe how fugly those outfits were so i looked it up and it's supposed to be "DIOR HOMME spring summer 2019 menswear". surely they get paid for promoting the clothes? pic related is them wearing Saint Laurent spring collection

what i don't get is it looks downright horrible side by side. i mean i guess their stylists don't care as long as they pay, but what are people at dior thinking? let's just throw the whole collection on, kill 7 birds with one stone?

No. 370454

>>370366
I've seen shit from aliexpress looking less cheap than these "outfits". Tf, they don't even look the right size.

No. 370460

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>>370386
kek anon he looks so creepy.

No. 370465

>>370290
I doubt they did because SNSD didn't have albums with photocards until 2010. I've always wondered where the photocard thing started tbh

No. 370468

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Why the fuck would they choose this image for a teaser? There must have been a better one.

No. 370471

>>370468
i mean that's a specifically bad photo but it's not like she was going to get much better, that's still her face. she tries for a sexy, eyes half shut, lips parted face a lot when she only looks half decent when her jaw is clenched shut and her makeup artists have a particularly good day

this video of her grabbing a fist full of her hair when she was eating always grosses me out in a weird way. just tie your nasty extensions back or something. how did this make her the token 'unconventionally attractive' idol of the moment?

No. 370484

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>>370471
>>370468
she looked almost decent with shorter hair, still the most overhyped visual in kpop, but decent.

No. 370492

>>370468
>dat fake lashes
>dat eyeliner
>dat tragic undereye makeup
>those "dots" of white in the inner corners, unblended, different sizes, different shapes
>dat Miranda Sings lip overline
Mother of God… the worst makeup artist in the world

No. 370493

>>370366
getting strong michael jackson vibes from the far right

No. 370494

>>370366
did suga gain weight or is it fillers? he looks bloated

No. 370502

>>370494
Most likely gained weight. They all seem to yo-yo diet viciously, and after an anon spotted laxatives/diet pills in Jungkook's bag, I wouldn't be shocked.

No. 370503

>>370366
J-Hope never fails to terrify me, and just when I thought Taehyung's look could have been the best it's ruined with loose fitted pants, stupid fucking sneakers, and inability to pose properly.

Why do none of their pants fit?

No. 370505

>>370366
Hoseok looks like Michael Jackson

No. 370572

>>370366
Wow it’s jarring to see their actual skin tones in comparison to their overly shooped photos people spread around. Especially V
And honestly they all look like they’re in a cult. I’d consider ARMYs a cult tbh

No. 370592

>>370572
They look like the cult leaders with all the flashy clothings

No. 370603

>>370453

These pictures…are a fucking reality check. Like I thought at least JK was cute but he looks so freaky here. Kpop visuals are such illusions.

No. 370695

>>370468
She looks like a tan version of that Olivia chick from loona

No. 370734

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Why do they hate women so much? Armys keep shitting on every female western celebrity that breathes near their oppas but Camilla is more deserving and talented than those rat faced bastards

No. 370736

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>>370734
god i thought this was just some random army tweet and wanted to check it to see the salt but it has almost 10k likes. they are so insecure about other women in the disguise of ~~owunin da bureederz and purotectin da curoseted gay babybois from heteuronormatibwity~~
some others are saying that camila is problematic because she said the n-word to normani or something like that, i don't know but i really, really doubt that bts members heard about it and hate camila because of that lmao

No. 370747

>>370734
Not @ how they have a loona icon whose stans praise them for being lesbeANS when none of the members have been vocal about LGBT rights because in reality that would bring complete death to a Kpop girl group.

I like Loona, but the only reason I don't keep up to date with them is the stans ramming "GAY UWU DRAG QUEENS LOVE EM LOOK THEY EVEN HAD A SONG PLAYED AT PRIDE" down my throat every second.

But I cant help but feel (and this goes for most if not all Kpop stans) they've got a lot of internalized misogyny built up. Especially when it comes to Loonarmys who seem to like the idea of Loona and Bts being together, or even being related, because "they're on the same level of talent" which is far from the truth since some of the Loona girls have showcased far more talent than all of the BTS members combined.

Sometimes it feels like Kpop bg group stans are stanning ggs bc they envision themselves in the ggs place to be closer to their oppars more than anything. That's why they're so territorial.

No. 370751

>>370747
>BTS
>talent
Lol I'm not a fan of Fifth Harmony, Little Mix, 1D and the alikes but these groups came out of singing contests and have members that can actually fucking sing. Camila made an international hit at the beginning of her solo career. You have armys insisting that they are more talented than the evol western groupz but I really don't see it. They also see them as superior to other k-pop groups but their vocals are painfully mediocre compared to most groups, only 2 members out of 7 are good dancers. I'll give it to them that their rap is okay for k-pop but that's all, they are nothing special.

Some fangirls self-insert themselves into girl groups and analyze 0.2 millisecond eye-contacts with male idols at award shows like the SEA stans who self-insert into Lisa. The others self-insert themselves into the overly feminine quirky ftm oppars, ship them with their bandmates and get triggered by anything female that breathes around them.

No. 370826

none of them suit this concept it's laughable and the song is just weird

Do any of you think ITZY will last?

No. 370830

>>370826
I expected the bare minimum and I'm let down tbh. They still rap like fucking children despite being a "girl crush" group. Wonder Girls was sacrificed for this?

No. 370831

>>370826
he'll ignore them for twice by the end of the year
jyp can't have more than one active girl group at a time

No. 370833

>>370826

It's so inconsistent. The girls look like they belong in a cute group like Twice, but they have a "strong/badass" concept that look straight out of a BlackPink's MV, with a hint of Red Velvet.
I kinda like their voices, but this song is bad.

No. 370836

>>370826
This song is terrible. They're trying to change up beats like Red Velvet songs do but it's just not working. The dancing is nice enough but the girl aren't pulling off the "luxury badass" image.

I don't think they'll be a threat to Blackpink anytime soon

No. 370840

>>370826
Yikes, good luck with that. Uncatchy, overly loud and headache inducing beat + thin, grating voices. Only 2 of this girls sound listenable, the song is legitimately unpleasant experience.

No. 370842

>>370826
Okay so I hate the song so far. It's far more cutesy pop than I expected.

Based on the girls pre-debut clips, it's clear that they all thrive with the girl crush concept. In terms of sheer talent, they seem comfortable with "empowered" or "badass" dancing and vocal styles.

I was impressed that JYP seemed to be going for a concept that was based on their personal styles rather than forcing cute concepts with high-pitched vocals and easily repeated hand movements, which he did with Twice and WG. But it looks like that's exactly what's happening once again, just with a little extra rap in the verses. Overall disappointed.

No. 370843

>>370826
did k-pop companies realize that all fans are mentally unstable or something, what's up with all these groups going for self love concepts? it's so ironic considering how the industry is

No. 370844

>>370826
this is the most generic quirky girl crush song and concept you could come up with, the lyrics about being different make it hilarious

No. 370846

>>370842
Samefag, just adding that the sets, props, cinematography, editing and post-editing effects are ALL AWFUL.

The styling is so inconsistent as well. It's a visual and auditory nightmare. Even Twice gets better produced tracks and decently directed videos.

They better release a b-side video asap if they want Itzy to recover from this nonsense debut.

No. 370850

>>370826
For a big 3 company group this whole MV looks and sounds awfully cheap. Also chick in the white top and pucca hair has the worst singing/rapping voice out of them all.

No. 370851

>>370831
that's what i was expecting but apparently JYP has a "company within a company" system. It's what he used with TWICE and is what he's going to do with the 3 other groups he plans on debuting this year.

They're all gonna have separate teams.

No. 370854

>>370603

idk what it is but jk looks strange now. he messed around with his face too much and is now looking ALF when he smiles. It's….disturbing.

No. 370862

>>370826
I questioned Somi leaving JYP with guaranteed debut in sight but she probably heard the song and bailed out.

No. 370870

>>370862
my theory is that she saw how little resources/effort was going to go into the group and fled to where she she'd be a priority and not a twice leftover just getting scraps. that or she was aiming for a solo and remembered how awful jyp is with solo artists. people clown on yg for lee hi and cl but jyp's track record with treating his solos well is appalling too. baek a yeon and the 15& girls jimin and yerin aren't exactly what somi is probably aiming to be.

lee hi's career is dead because she was under the highgrnd subsidiary and tablo bailed on it, and he was already to her what teddy are to blackpink. somi's under the black label and could get more attention and resources since they she's the only idol like that under the subsidiary

No. 370871

>>370850
It's a shame because I was actually looking forward Yeji predebut, but this is just awful.

No. 370872

>>370826
It's so messy that even kpop stans in the comments are saying it. They should've stuck with the first beat and only ONE beat change in the 3/4 part.

No. 370873

>>370871
I saw a bit of Ryujin on Mixnine and was impressed with her dancing. This song is honestly so bad it makes RBB sound decent.

No. 370876

>>370870
Jimin got lucky with that MC gig. Baek Ayeon's songs always do well, I don't know why JYP wouldn't give her regular comebacks considering she appeals to the general public rather than idol fans, so it's a nice way to diversify their company portfolio.

But I guess JYP is sticking to its policy of prioritizing idol groups only and forgetting about the rest.

No. 370887

>>370826
This sounds like JYP's attempt at making I Got A Boy and failing

No. 370905

>>370826
0:47 is incredibly pedo

No. 370912

>>370905
how? she's 18, and acts her age

No. 370916

>>370826
Aside from sounding awful, the lyrics and sets (and the rainbow puppy…) make this song seem like it's for really young girls, but the outfits and dances make me think that any sane mother of an 10 year old girl isn't letting her daughter watch it.

Some parts of this video definitely seem like they're meant for preteens, while others seem pretty indecent. I don't really understand who they're trying to target with this. It's too much for actual kids, but too juvenile for teens or adults. I can't see any 16 year old finding this cool.

Also that one girl's huge mouth is terrifying

No. 370919

>>370916
Which is a shame. I was hoping for Itzy’s fan base to be mostly teenager girls so it would fit their concept, but now I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s going to make up tons of grown ass men like twice. Imagine profiting and majority of your fans are men when you’re a high school freshman? Yikes

No. 370922

>>370873
I tried to look her up and… she really doesn't seem that good.
I find her the prettiest of the group though

No. 370931

>>370919
Grown ass men would still prefer Twice and GFriend, this concept isn't appealing to anyone really. Young girls will stick to Red Velvet and Blackpink, women to Mamamoo. Itzy will have a pretty tough time trying to snatch any of these key demographics with a song this bad

No. 370947

>>369335
>>369336

Oh wow, DJ Snake is behind tons of international summer hits, collab with him could actually help BP get known, or at least get them a world-wide hit.

Good job BP fantards. You fucked up your group

No. 370954

>>369863
Are armys already sperging out over dirty western pig slut Anna Kendricks getting to sit and contamine one of their pure baby boys?

No. 370988

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BTS are attending the Grammy's which are starting soon. Get ready for the potential milk ladies

No. 371013

>>370988
predictions
expensive terrible clothing
jimin looking dead inside
rm managing to include a fake deep speech somewhere
suga flexing
2 white women getting cancelled by twitter stans for breathing in the same room with bts

No. 371032

>>371013
I hope Dolly and Anna don't even look at them kek
All those twitter stans thinking V is going to get along sooo well with her (unless she speaks Korean, how?) and Ratmon will hold super deep conversations about songwriting as well…

No. 371042

>>371013
I can already hear armies autistic screeching about bts sitting next to either one of these women. R.i.p their social media accs

No. 371061

>>371013
RM will embarrass himself in front of Anna Kendrick, she'll make a light-hearted joke about it, triggered armies will gun for her blood online

No. 371075

https://twitter.com/RecordingAcad/status/1094701352498806784?s=19

Kek so they didn't even win the pity award they (or rather their designers) were nominated for

No. 371081

>>371075
why do kpop fans reply with cringy videos of idols dancing to everything

No. 371098


No. 371099

>>371081
promoting their faves, even though i really don't think many people have ever gotten into a group because they saw fancams spammed. it's just people who are already fans pretending like 'wow, who is that in the blue dress?' so they can get 'blue dress girl' trending like anybody else cares

it also means they don't need to answer with any argument if they just reply 'anyways bts paved the way/stan loona' and post a fancam. if you know you're going to lose a discussion, don't even bother trying and just get your fellow roaches to like your tweet so you can feel like you won

No. 371101

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>>371075
I'm dead

No. 371115

Wasn't the grammy nom for the designer of the album?? Why do armies keep making it seem like bts themselves was nominated for the grammy and not…the designer?

No. 371118

>>371115
Same fag. I think thats a bit disrespectful considering bts was only there as representation… idk I sound nitpicky

No. 371120

>>371075
>all the replies from army in the st vincent retweet
ew

No. 371124

>>371120
Ew what? All im seeing is them sayin congrats am i missing smtg?

No. 371139

>>371124
I'm just nitpicking cause I dislike when they flood comments, I admit.

No. 371146

>>371139
Ohh Lmaooo . I'm suprised on how civil they are acting. I was expecting death threats and just a clusterfuck of hate but I haven't seen any yet.

No. 371196

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>>370826
what kind of mess is this? It's like JYP is trying to make a twice version of 2ne1

No. 371225

>>371075
They were nominated? Jesus the grammys keep getting worse.

No. 371236

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They look half decent except for the retarded hair colors.

No. 371239

>>370366
>>371236
Pff Jin seems to only have one face. RM needs to stop tilting his head up, it makes him look like there's no separation between his face and neck.

No. 371240

>>371236
Why does the guy in th middle smile like that

No. 371245

>>371225
Im almost positive they were only nominated for clout.

No. 371278

>>371236
They should’ve all stuck to neutral hair colors, it looks weird when only one or two members have crazy colored hair. Also RM’s English seems to be getting worse somehow, but jungkook is getting better and his pronunciation is pretty good. Here’s the interview of them on the red carpet: https://twitter.com/kimparkdaily/status/1094745948411121665?s=21

No. 371287

>>371236
>>371278
to me light brown looks the worst on any idol, especially a bland colour like suga's

No. 371294

>>370826
Did the 5 of them go to the same plastic surgery clinic? they look like each other and they have the same wonky uneven botch nose job going on. It's super noticeable in their debut teasers

No. 371295

>>371278
Damn that 148 iq really failed him today. Jungkook's english is really good I was plesantly surprised. Although why is it that all there oversea interviews so..awkward? They all look so uncomfortable and half of them looked like they didn't even know what was going on. Not a good look.

No. 371299

>>370826
The song is hot garbage and the video looks bad and kind of cheap. Unless they become super popular soon,Jyp is going to forget about them and just focus on Twice instead.

No. 371307

>>370826
Was that opening shot with the security cam a good idea considering the molka/spycam shit that's been going on over there? I can't believe no one thought that might be in bad taste.

No. 371309

>>371278
Namjoon sounds retarded…Maybe he hasn't been watching enough friends recently

And Jungkook has always been an overachiever so I'm not shocked at the fact his pronunciation got better. It just shows me he wants Western media's attention more than any of his other members, which is not a bad thing since most of them never look like they want to be there.

No. 371360

>>370826
I watched the video twice trying to figure out why it was so incredibly jarring to me, and then I realized
the members have zero chemistry. They look so awkward together, it's not even funny.

Their style reminds me a lot of GLAM, like bubblegum pop with a slight edge rather than full girlcrush.

Ik people here don't like Chaeyeon but I've always found her really charming and I was a little upset that her sister was the one who made it into a "permanent" big 3 group. I don't really feel bad now lmao

No. 371408

So BTS went straight to their hotel room after the Grammys to do another Vlive. Armys are creaming themselves over how humble BTS are that they think of their fans first.

If anything I'm sure all 7 of them are fed up of not getting to go to the afterparties, where the real networking happens. Western artists won't take BTS seriously unless they get to know them better beyond generic "We love our fans" shite.

No. 371410

>>371360
If Chaeyeon had stuck around I'm sure she would have been part of this group too. In hindsight leaving was a very good decision considering how well Izone are doing.

No. 371420

>>371408
i remember seeing armys saying that they don't go to afterparties because jungkook wasn't old enough to drink openly in america but now he's 21, i thought they would attend the party, like you said it's a good chance for networking. they could've done a vlive for armys the next day or something.

No. 371423

>>371420
>wasn't old enough to drink openly in america
Lol more delusional bullshit. Jungkook has probably been drinking in Korea since puberty, age restrictions probably won't be a big deal. That "excuse" is just something armys made up to convince themselves that they're #1 priority in BTS' eyes, and I'm sure Big Hit is encouraging this charade.

What's even the point of going to big events if you can't have any fun? To get big collabs with Western artists, you need to befriend them, not just jerk over how much you love them. And the informal setting of an afterparty is the best way to do that.

Besides, I'm sure most Western artists think that BTS devotion to their fans is a bit creepy given the bad experiences they themselves have had with overbearing fans.

No. 371427

>>371423
The interview just casually inserted how crazy their fans are which says a lot about how use to they are with their crazy ass fans. The response was bs too because how can any key be blessed with people who follow them 24/7?

No. 371433

>>371408
lol @ believing this. as soon as they go offline, they go to the parties and will go back to their hotels with hookers like rich and famous men do.

No. 371544

>>371423
>Besides, I'm sure most Western artists think that BTS devotion to their fans is a bit creepy given the bad experiences they themselves have had with overbearing fans.

do you think anyone even knows about vlives and shit? i don't think so.

No. 371545

>>371236
they would look normal if only for the natural hair color. i have a feeling the stylists dyed their hair for people to be able to tell them apart tho

No. 371570

>>371236
Rap Mon is weird like always
Jin have literally one face and Jimin looks dead inside
Hoseok for some reason looks worse and worse every day. What happened with them

No. 371571

>>371544
Nta but maybe anon meant that Western artists don't thank their fans as regularly as BTS does. Could you imagine Celine Dion starting and ending her speech with a thousand mentions of her fans?

No. 371575

>>370836
Lol exactly this sounds like a dumb dumb dumb or power up knock off. I mean they dont sound alike but its obvious where the inspiration came from.

No. 371592

>>370826
it's a shame it sounds like it's going for the same kind of vibe that clc just nailed. at least clc are permanently stuck with nobody caring while itzy are going to get a lot of attention because clc really did the "i'm so unique and different, i love myself and don't need a boyfriend!" song better

No. 371601

>>370826
Is this JYP's version of "As if it's your last"? Kek

No. 371619

>>370826
Fuck I actually enjoyed this, but I FUCKING HATE the over processed vocals. I find it cringey when a group does this badass concept but can't sing to save their lives

No. 371624

>>370826
It seems that it was a success. It's apparently #1 trending in Korea, 13.9M views in its first day, 880K likes in 24 hours and #1 most viewed K-pop group debut M/V in the first 24 hours, doing even better than Izone:
1. DALLA DALLA — 13,933,725 views
2. La Vie en Rose — 4,559,202 views
3. District 9 — 4,274,649 views
4. Energetic — 4,034,795 views

Thoughts?

No. 371640

>>371624

Damn Twice's chances of ever doing a girl crush concept are FINITO lmao poor girls they clearly hate their concept but since Itzy is successful with "teen crush", once they get older they will clearly transition into a more mature girl crush route. I guess Twice can always try something more elegant like La Vie on Rose.

Sad that the debut song of IZONE, a rookie girl group with a centre 10 years younger than the centre of TWice is also much more mature than any title track Twice has put out

No. 371641

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>>370826
This girl needs to never smile again.

No. 371646

File: 1549902703627.jpg (1.22 MB, 2400x1474, BPbGdvFdk04bG.jpg)

army pls stop doing this it's embarrassing

No. 371651

>>371575
I studied music only for a few years so I'm not expert, but the chord progression kind of reminds me of Russian Roulette. That was a well put-together song (and one of RV's best), this is a fucking mess.

No. 371653

File: 1549903369038.png (109.38 KB, 639x842, Annoying drivel.PNG)

Not even 24 hours into debut and their stans act like this fucking hell

No. 371654

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No. 371655

As the days pass, Jungkook is starting to look more and more like Super Junior's Leeteuk from certain angles….oh god.

No. 371657

>>371624
YouTube views don't matter that much. That just means international stans were streaming, Koreans don't use YouTube much. If it charts within top 30 on Melon that's an indicator of a good debut.

No. 371658

>>371655
the guy's going to age horribly because of constantly getting messed up with ps and chemicals since puberty

No. 371660

>>370468
>>365133
thread pic nominations

No. 371662

Seconded >>365133

No. 371663

>>371662
Yes please

No. 371666

>>371641
They're very similar to Blackpink in that only one member (in BP's case Lisa, in Itzy's case white top girl) can pull off the concept they're going for.

No. 371669

>>371545
Or Jimin got his hair dyed just so that he can get the sweet validation of his retarded fans larping as normal people and massposting
>Who is the guy with the purple hair?!
>Omg the one with the purple hair! I didn't know BTS before, but I need to know his name!1!1 Plz help
Alternatively:
>The one with the glasses somehow looks sooo intelligent! And his English is sexy too hehe

No. 371673

>>369320
My next thread pic vote

No. 371676

>>371669
Does any other fandom do this shit? Like I imagine so, but it's so common with ARMY for some reason

No. 371682

>>371676
red velvet fans have done it before, joy fans especially. "omg, girl in the ____ dress so fine"

No. 371703

>>371669
They were definitely larping. When I looked at the screencaps of so-called "normies" reacting, half of it was the exact same phrase, down to the same grammar, copy and pasted. It was creepy. Who the fuck coordinates something like that?

No. 371706

>>371653
The gatekeeping in these fandoms is so retarded. You can only stan if you're ready to sacrifice your first unborn child, understand all of the feminist lyrics in each of their songs and stan ALL of the members !!!

No. 371716

>>371278
jungkook probably just memorized some sentences for possible questions but his pronunciation is okay, at least you can understand what he's saying. i think rm got too confident with his english, stopped trying to improve and that's why he became so incomprehensible

No. 371719

>>371653
This is the type of shit that triggers me beyond belief. When these idiots try to paint a non-issue as something anti-feminist and accuse normal people of something as serious as internalized misogyny for simply thinking a song is bad. “Woke” kpop stans need to be tranquilized.

No. 371756

File: 1549912994013.jpg (24.24 KB, 275x211, 1451297404180.jpg)

>>371646
God they can't be serious with this shit. They're all using the same script too.

No. 371761

>>371653
Maybe if their song wasn't dated recycled trash more people would like it?

No. 371784

>>371669
yeah, everyone was able to spot it instantly too. im just wondering if any of this is ever planted by the company. like the republican who created redpill subreddit

or is it all just the retarded ~stans~

No. 371800

>>371784
it's retarded stans

No. 371802

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No. 371817

>>371802
Lmao that's beyond pathetic.
There did you get this from, are there more?
I really wished somebody would have called her out, but her tweet is still up and has nearly 2000 likes

No. 371821

>>371624
Meanwhile, Loona's debut is only 7,3 mln views (Favorite) and 20 mln (Hi high) after 6 whole months. Itzy dunked on Loona even without all the hype and the "complex lore", even though Loona stans are everywhere and stream so much.

No. 371832

>>371817
I made the collage myself. I just took the twitter names from >>371646 and entered them on a website that does a deep search of twitter accs. Entered in the keyword bts and those tweets came up. Out of all the names those are the only two that prior post of bts.

No. 371834

Thoughts?

No. 371836

>>371834
I liked the video and the song a lot. The b sides on the album however not so much. Honestly his music has been declining in quality since his 1st album which is sad. I do think it was better than Key's solo though.

No. 371838

>>371821
A lot of views are coming from twice fans though so its no suprise itzy's video has a alot more views than Loona anon. Also youtube views mean absolutely nothing.

No. 371841

File: 1549921467469.png (291.41 KB, 912x338, taemin.PNG)

>>371834
I honestly think Taemin was hot as hell in Move, but he looks really weird here, especially in certain angles when you see his eyelids. Why does he look so puffy? The song is really repetitive for me, the hook when he says "Will leave you wanting more" will get old for me fast with the instrumental.

I still really like him as a soloist, I just wish he stopped touching his face. It's odd how quickly idols go from pretty to uncanny. I don't get it. Most celebs take years to fuck up their faces, but kpop idols do it in like a year.

No. 371842

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>>371802
oh my god

No. 371844

>>371836
press it was such a good album. ace was nice too but his latest releases are kinda mediocre. same goes for other shinee members' solos. i don't get it because as a group they have solid discography.

No. 371855

>>371841
I agree in Move he looked good. I liked the little eyebrow thing he had going on. I hope he quits with the plastic surgery or whatever he is doing because he's ruining his face.

No. 371856

Army aside looks like there were no major embarrassment at the show.

No. 371862

>>371646
>>371802
What is even the point of doing this?
To make it seem like BTS could gain the interest of non armys?

No. 371866

>>371862
yes. they do it every single time and the members find out and brag about it in interviews.

No. 371871

>>371862
Yeah, and it works.
Korean media is talking about it.

https://news.nate.com/view/20190211n17366?mid=n1008

Article title translates as:
>Grammys:"Who's the guy with the green hair?" - Interest in BTS' V is suddenly increasing

No. 371875

>>371871
fucking lol. kpop is so fucking retarded.

No. 371881

File: 1549926599986.png (269.58 KB, 555x400, won2.png)

wonwoo from seventeen was a snsd anti and made pic related. men who make a living thanks to women should never be forgiven for misogynistic behaviour, it's disgusting

No. 371897

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>>371821
Loona's company doesnt seem to care about promoting them since they're approaching them as a "project". I'm hearing that they're comeback is supposed to be unique to Kpop, but it's not like any of that matter when they have this alien in their group

No. 371901

>>371881
He was young and just trolling. His actions were in poor taste but he has since apologized a lot and hasn't done anything bad since.

No. 371902

>>371901
found the oppalogist. i bet he's the type who secretly thinks about how unfortunate looking and annoying his fans are kek

No. 371906

>>371897
at least she looks better with that hair color + bangs combo. i hope she keeps it.

No. 371909

>>371821
What even is Loona’s lore? They got extremely defensive over it being compared to EXO’s and after looking at their picture it was just cooor theory on acid and animals. Nothing “complex”. It makes it wonder if these read or have at least read any form of literature besides school requirements and gay fanfics.

No. 371913

>>371592
I'm sad that people sleep on CLC. Hobgoblin and Black dress were both really catchy "girl crush" songs

No. 371914

>>371909
They're lore is not complex at all. Their stans are just overdramatic.

Loona's lore is mostly about girls traveling through time/dimensions, trying to find one another. And with this, the company can find a lot of combos to play around with.

No. 371916

>>371901
seventeen's music is for retarded theatre kids

No. 371945

The more "stans" are defending that mf "Dalla dalla" song, the more i hate it. How can you be so brainwashed already to be shielding a song (and MV) so bad from a group that just debuted? that's some level. The craziest thing is, they surely know deep inside this song its fucking horrid but wont admit because that's how deep they're into k-pop delusion.

No. 371960

>>371945
People don't really care about the "music". The girls look good and the style is cute and that makes the whole thing subjectively good even though the song is really complete garbage.

No. 371964

>>371960
You are right, this is k-pop stans we are talking about, they can easily ignore the music/ mute the video and just watch their "visuals" lol (i can't even watch that shit, my head hurts from all the colors and cheap effects, it almost competes with that horrid "IDOL" video). Their voices better be good at lives.

No. 371988

>>371881
Well it is their natural/original faces..

No. 372000

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This pic of luna is terrifying

No. 372003

>>371641
I think they'll do something with her teeth for their next comeback and boom a totally different person yikes

No. 372017

>>371834
I really loved the song and video, and I do think that he looks good in the video itself. However, I saw the stages and he looked so weird. I don't know why he keeps getting shit done to his face but he has to stop. He used to be very cute and handsome and now I actually find him kind of repulsive to look at if he isn't edited to perfection in a music video. So I've just accepted the fact that I admire him as an artist though don't find him attractive anymore. The b-sides on the album were alright, the best one for me was Artistic Groove.

No. 372022

>>371945
idk how anyone can defend that song, it sounds like meghan trainor tried to do i got a boy but had predebut twice sing the vocals

No. 372079

File: 1549949351904.jpg (67.16 KB, 636x589, Capture.JPG)

Kek

No. 372102

File: 1549951962628.jpg (175.59 KB, 681x522, 20190212_070619.jpg)

How is it even possible that he looks here more like NCT Lucas and Sechskies' Jaejin than himself?
I really like him but you're right, he should stop touching his face or it will get worse

No. 372114

saw blackpink's performance. rose is so terrifyingly skinny…her legs look like straight pixie sticks and her head is too big for her body. Giving me tiffany vibes

No. 372120

>>372114
They still look half-dead while performing. 2ne1 died for this?

No. 372138

>>372114
>>372120

>No stagepresence

>Aabsolutely no personality shining through what so ever

They are going to flop so incredibly hard in the US. It was like watching cardboard perform.

No. 372158

Kpop companies need to realize that success in the west it’s not only a matter of having members who can speak English or not. They keep debuting groups with no personality, no singing abilities… and still want the west to accept it? Idols can’t even voice their own opinions, it’s all fake.

I know the west have bad artists too, but they have some kind of personality and most likely didn’t went to a company to be trained in singing and dancing for years like kpop idols do.

No. 372178

Just saw this blind item on CDAN (grain of salt, etc):

GRAMMY AWARDS: A member of this foreign born A+ list group started screaming at a translator?!? to the point where the woman started crying.

Bets? I'll say Suga.

No. 372182

>>372178

My bet is on Jimin

No. 372183

>>372178
Really, really doubt CDAN would refer to them as A+. For comparison, he calls Justin Bieber a foreign born A+.

No. 372186

>>371913
Hobgoblin is the only ClC song that got popular. It was pretty much their peak.

No. 372199

>>372178
>>372183
what other foreign groups were there that would need a translator? arashi were, and if it’s just a member of a foreign born group without the whole group there then lay and yamapi were too

No. 372209

>>372178
Definitely Jimin or V.

No. 372218

is this all they did? come, dance and sing lifelessly, get the guy to advertise the album and leave? or did they have an interview?

No. 372219

>>372199
Lay speaks enough English to manage without a translator so I doubt it was him. But BTS is really the only A-list group I can think of, I doubt CDAN knows the status of Japanese groups

No. 372220

>>372218
End of show performers rarely get interviews. Anyway what would they even talk about? Not like they have any personality

No. 372224

>>372178
if it's about bts, rapmon's ego probably doesn't allow him to interact with translators so i don't think it's him. idk why but can't imagine j-hope, jin and jungkook yelling at a translator. as much as jimin comes off as an asshole sometimes i think he's too much of a pussy to yell at a translator too. i'd say suga or v?

No. 372226

>>372178
My bet is on V 100%. She probably triggered him by using informal speech or something doing something trivial and he sperged at her

No. 372228

I checked the CDAN comments and a lot of people are saying Bts didn't have a translator and don't use them (I assume bc Rat Monster knows english) but Lay did have a translator so….oof>>372178

No. 372229

>>372218
Oof, jennie looks hella bloated

No. 372234

>>372228
is he still a part of exo? it says a member of an a+ list group

No. 372237

>>372234
Yes he is still a member of Exo. He just can't do group activities/promotions with them in Korea because of the whole Hallyu ban I believe.

No. 372239

>>372228
They're not being truthful then, because BTS do have a translator and that translator was with them.

No. 372242

>>372228
Lying ARMYs.

BTS's translator Nicole went with them to the Grammys. You can see her in footage: https://twitter.com/choi_bts2/status/1094804374910525442

No. 372243

Anyone else watching BP on GMA right now? The fans are acting a bit crazed as expected and idk why they picked Jennie for the English voice over Rosé, she sounds awful omg

No. 372246


No. 372247

>>372243
Kek im watching rn

No. 372248

>>372246
Maybe. Either a translator or his manager.

But it was BTS mentioned in the blind item. The fact that BTS fans are now actively lying to try and rule them out makes it pretty obvious.

No. 372253

Blackpink's performance was okayish I guess. Jennie's half assed dancing kinda ruined it and the girl with the white sneakers is looking a bit skelly. The people on the sides who obviously didn't know wtf a blackpink are killed me with their unenthusiastic faces though.

No. 372255

Same anon as >>372243
Blogpost but if anyone is wondering the perspective of an actually unbiased watcher of the American GP, my bf has no vendetta against K-pop and said BP was annoying and sounded stupid. Good luck YG on western advancement

No. 372257

>>372248
There's not a doubt in my mind that its bts mentioned in the blind item. All the armies lying are pathetic but I'm not surprised.

No. 372258

>>372178
If it's true I wonder why any of the BTS members or Lay would yell at a translator to the point of making her cry, it sounds terrible. Like learn english yourself or something then, asshole

No. 372259

>>372178
If this was really BTS (and who else could it be?), then it's 100% Suga.
Like >>372224 said, the 4 Js seem to be too much of a pussy to ever do something like that, they rather walk off and collect pitypoints by looking sad in front of the camera, Ratmon can speak English and probably also has enough common sense to know that this would be a very stupid move.
V might be a sexist countrybody, but he's also childish and dumb af, doubt he could make anybody cry even if he wanted to lol
But Suga thinks of himself as a rap god, he seems to literally hate everybody and everything. I can definitely imagine him acting all high and mighty and even verbally abusing staff…

No. 372260

>>372255
TOP KEK. The performance was bland and the song is just terrible. They are definetly going to flop and then woke twitter is gonna blame it on people hating girl groups rather than the lack of talent bp possess.

No. 372263

>>372259
It could just be an act but Suga seems too sulky to actually yell in public. He seems more like the type of man who acts like a sulky teenager and gives you the silent treatment the second something doesn't go his way. You know the type.

No. 372267

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>>372114
old school snsd thinspo lol

No. 372271

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>>372114
>>372267
blackpink are the skelly queens of this gen, but i didn't notice that plenty of other girls aren't that much better. twice are absolutely tiny too but their clothes don't draw attention to it the way blackpinks do. i thought they were all skinny and blackpink were extreme even for kpop, but if they were dressed in more standard kpop silhouettes they wouldn't look as scary

No. 372272

>>371881
Thread pic nomination for me, this is hilarious.

No. 372274

>>372178
I'm betting on Jin. He looked sulky the whole time.

No. 372275

>>372272
I second that

No. 372279

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I was watching a video about an ex bts saesaeng and this came up. Does anybody know anything about Taeyong being a pedophile? I remember somebody posted a pic of all the age range the members would date and Taeyong allegedly said 2002 but it looked sketchy since it was typed in iPhone notepad and had no verifible source.

No. 372281

>>372271
Who's this? Damn, her right leg is defeating anatomy… it's a completely straight line of the same width from top to bottom

No. 372282

>>372281
Sana from Twice

No. 372283

>>372279
That's been brought up here before. Basically it was some fan's random speculation, not something any of the NCT members ever actually said. For some reason a lot of dumber fans (mostly kids and SEAsians) took it as real, despite it having no source and every single NCT member giving a very precise, exact age range instead of the usual "Anyone who likes me is fine :)" idol cop-out.

No. 372289

>>372279
i've watched this video too and it was so disturbing, the sasaeng mindset is fucked. the rumors from sasaeng accounts were weird like the 18+ videos and shit, they are probably fake but i wouldn't be surprised if sasaengs were finding a way to put hidden cams to spy on idols. idk what's the truth but this rumor about taeyong creeped me out the most, i hope it's not real

No. 372295


No. 372298

>>372295
The smoking gun that points to this being fake is the fact Hansol's included. He didn't even debut with NCT, but Johnny was only added to the group during Limitless promotions (after debut). If this came from an interview it'd either be pre-debut (so it would include Hansol but not Johnny) or after debut (so would not include Hansol).

Basically, it's not real.

No. 372301

>>372289
I remember a Yunjae sasaeng claimed to have broken into a hotel room they shared and took pictures of the bed and room. Easy to fake when you're so delusional that you need your ship to be real, it's not hard to get pictures of a hotel room and claim it's an idol's, but Jaejoong's had people break into his apartments and molest him in his sleep, so I absolutely buy that sasaengs have planted cameras in the hotel rooms or homes of idols, it's just probably restricted to the handful of groups with the most absolutely insane stalkers on cassiopeia levels.

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