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No. 506118
Join us for the ongoing saga of 41-year-old horrorcow Raven (née Diana) Dawn Sparks and her 31-year-old future husband #5 Josh Bradley in their barren Love That Was More Than Love Shack mobile home in rural Saluda, South Carolina.
Raven originally achieved notoriety for her outrageous horror goth appearance and exhibitionism, her immature and aggressively defensive demeanor which alienates everyone in her life, and her relationship with husband #4 Logan who was 16-years-old and 19 years her junior when they became engaged and was a school friend of her son Dorian who is 8 months older. She has disowned her son after subjecting him to a childhood of neglect and many years of emotional abuse.
Each successive relationship is The One™ which will rescue her from her terrible life and give her a "fresh start." Several of her relationships began while she was still married to and, in some cases, financially supported by the previous husband. She has moved across several states and twice overseas to be with men whom she met online. Once she is established in a new relationship she is quick to denigrate the last with accusations of neglect and abuse despite having been the manipulator, an example of how she continually rewrites her personal history to feed her narcissism and validate her victimhood.
Her addiction to finding new love is closely rivaled by her addiction to acquiring new pets, toys, and clothes which she soon abandons in her hoard (or rehomes in the case of her pets) once their novelty has worn off.
As in real life, she exhibits her Jekyll/Hyde personality online: superficially sweet to her sycophantic followers and crassly vitriolic to anyone who dares to disagree with her. An overwhelming number of her Youtube videos are rants directed at people whom she perceives as having crossed her and at "the haters" on lolcow and Kiwi Farms.
Previous threads:
>>>/pt/12332>>>/pt/20741>>>/pt/321974>>>/pt/400701>>>/pt/415881>>>/pt/438380>>>/pt/447573>>>/pt/462983>>>/pt/471830>>>/pt/478795>>>/pt/491874In the course of the last thread:
>In yet another video filmed in their Bed That Was More Than A Bed, Raven announces, "I have a real life friend now!" Her new friend is presumably the same friend who bought them groceries.>Josh did not qualify for unemployment. He has applied online to about a hundred and fifty jobs. "He's going to be working hopefully soon, or we're camping out on the street.">While they may not be able to pay their rent, electric bill, or car registration and insurance, Josh bought her two cases of her favorite Monster Slim Jims which she proudly showed off.>She announced that she would be withdrawing from social media and Youtube for lack of having anything to post and because she doesn't want to "surround herself with negativity.">She lost another Patreon patron and is now down to two.>Her photos revealed that they are now living in a different mobile home.>She adopted an unnamed golden retriever black lab cross from the same woman from whom she adopted Meg the tabby kitten. She returned the dog a few days later when his family changed their minds.>After receiving a comment on Instagram from a throwaway account (suspected to be Gir the Alien Goldfish/Placebo who was subsequently ridiculed and banned on Kiwi Farms) criticising her history of pet ownership and threatening to contact the police, Raven posted a video to enumerate the "unfortunate" events which have resulted in her losing her pets and to explain her philosophy of pet ownership to validate how frequently she rehomes her animals.>She admits her fault in the disappearance of Azzy. She says that she briefly left her alone outside to answer a phone call from Josh, and in that time someone must have stolen her.>Two days later she announced the arrival of Doja, an 11 year old blind and hearing impaired purebred pit bull whom she acquired through an unnamed dog rescue organisation. She said that a member of the organisation (who turned out to be the person who transported him) conducted an in-home interview. He arrived with an eye infection and in need of vaccinations and grooming. His blindness, caused by his eyelids folding inwards, could have been prevented with surgery.>Raven created a Facebook page for Doja:https://www.facebook.com/Gentle.Giant.Doja>Her video of Doja revealed just how old and rundown their new LTWMTL Shack is. Josh mentions that it smells. Gnats and flies visibly swarm in front of the camera. The power is out during part of the video. They moved their king size bed into the cramped living room "so that they could keep an eye on him" and because their bedroom is not large enough for him to sleep on their floor.>The next day she posted a video pleading for donations towards Doja's medical expenses, including the link to a Facebook post by Autumn Fralix of the dog rescue organisation. Autumn stated that she was not made aware of Doja's additional health problems prior to arranging the adoption. Donations can be made to Autumn's Paypal account and directly to the vet in Saluda.>In the same video she says that Josh has just started a new job.>Enough money was raised for Doja to be groomed, examined, vaccinated, and tested for heartworm.>On April 3rd Raven announced that her mother had died after having a third stroke. She posted a video which includes a recording of their last phone conversation and says that she knows that getting to the funeral is her responsibility and that she doesn't expect to receive donations and will refund any donations she does receive if they do not go.>Her mother was cremated in Colorado where she and Raven's half-sister and half-brother live. Her ashes will be divided to be interred in El Paso next to Raven's step-dad's grave, shared amongst her family members, and sent to Thailand.>During the following week she posted three more videos about her mom's passing which center on herself. She set-up a GoFundMe with a goal of $500 to cover the cost of a rental car, hotel accommodation, food, and a "modest" dress for the funeral. When the goal was met she increased it to $800. She says both that she intentionally low-balled the goal amount and that she underestimated the cost of the trip. She shows their overdue electric bill marked "Final Notice" and states that she will use the donations towards the bill and overdue rent if they are unable to go. She will still refund people if they request it.>Renting a car is the only option due to her tailbone injury, her agoraphobia, and need to have Josh with her for emotional support since she is "not close" to her siblings.>Doja will be cared for by the dog rescue while she and Josh are away.>She expected the funeral to take place on the 22nd, but her sister emailed her on the 11th informing her that it would be on the 15th. Raven was angry that her siblings did not consider her hardships when setting the date.>Her pleas were successful, netting $850 on GoFundMe and an undisclosed amount via Paypal and bank transfer.>On the funeral home obituary page someone posing as Raven posted the link to a video entitled Meet My Mom in which she describes her mom and their tumultuous relationship in less than flattering terms. Raven posts a foul-mouthed response on the obit page, declaring "I would give anything in my life to have everyone in your families die slowly while you have to watch and suffer.">On Friday the 13th Josh took off early from work for their departure. Raven posted a pic of herself in their Jeep on the way to pick up the rental car.>She announced that she would be deactivating her Facebook profile and community page and taking an "extended break from social media" due to the haters harassing her over her treatment of her mom and in the aftermath of an unrelated drama on Facebook which started when Raven mentioned having been accused of pedophilia for her relationship with Logan. Cy Samael then made a lengthy post about Raven, and Ash Sangre and Zombgora Lilith defended Raven.>After Ash and Zombgora were discussed in the thread, a flame war erupted with new anons strongly suspected to be Ash and Zombgora themselves.Countdown to The Wedding That Was More Than A Wedding:
https://www.theknot.com/us/raven-sparks-and-joshua-bradley-sep-2018https://www.amazon.com/wedding/raven-sparks-joshua-bradley-columbia-september-2018/registry/3U5SA3QRSRSFVFacebook:
* deactivated or closed accounts
https://www.facebook.com/Official.Raven.Sparks (community)
https://www.facebook.com/the.moon.follows.me.home (new primary account)
https://www.facebook.com/you.were.born.to.die.like.this https://www.facebook.com/0nly.the.blind.follow.me https://www.facebook.com/the.modified.doll https://www.facebook.com/i.am.the.dream.forgotten.in.the.morninghttps://www.facebook.com/I.love.my.Marmaladehttps://www.facebook.com/Vv.Raven.vV * (old primary account)
https://www.facebook.com/blood.upon.my.soul *
https://www.facebook.com/crisp.black.kiss.upon.my.skull *
https://www.facebook.com/gorgeous.gothic.ghouls (community)
https://www.facebook.com/Goth.Boys (community)
https://www.facebook.com/x.metal.men.x (community)
https://www.facebook.com/Ravaged.by.Raven (community)
https://www.facebook.com/darkly.odd (community) *
YouTube and Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/c/RavenStarblood (current)
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/raven/ (current)
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSilentmourninghttps://www.youtube.com/user/RavenStarbl00dhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TheRaven0us1https://youtu.be/gwAiXPmMoJQ (unlinked birthday 2014 video about being cyber-bullied by a fake website, now in the archives) *
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj9C5ZUyNC5_kBK2A8-93hEIOfQ2F0S9g (10-part "My Story", some now in the archives) *
https://www.youtube.com/c/RavensGastricSleeveJourneyhttps://www.youtube.com/user/LeonbergerLoverNZ (her pets and Ryan's dogs)
http://www.dailymotion.com/raven-sparkshttps://vimeo.com/starbl00dArchives of leaked videos from
>>>/pt/400701 and others:
https://archive.org/details/RavenJoshuahttps://archive.org/details/ravenjoshua2Social Media:
https://www.instagram.com/crimson.rapturehttps://www.instagram.com/the.crimson.queen *
https://www.instagram.com/modified.doll *
https://www.twitter.com/starbl00dhttps://plus.google.com/116345106967394608871https://plus.google.com/+RavenSparks-Starbloodhttps://plus.google.com/+TheSilentmourninghttp://starbl00d.tumblr.com *
Image Galleries:
http://starbl00d.deviantart.comhttp://starbl00d-stock.deviantart.comhttps://raven-revamped.deviantart.comhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/bloodbathory *
https://www.flickr.com/people/raven0ushttps://www.flickr.com/photos/ravenskittens http://s27.photobucket.com/user/StarBl00d/profilehttp://s932.photobucket.com/user/Raven-Portfolio/profilehttp://s623.photobucket.com/user/goregirls/profilehttps://goregirls.deviantart.com/gallery/11478991/RavenOther:
https://www.patreon.com/_Raven_https://graphtreon.com/creator/_raven_ (ranking of her Patreon account)
http://a.co/158y4sg (Amazon wishlist)
http://a.co/aK3qVyK (Amazon wishlist of household items)
https://www.hottopic.com/showotherwishlist?WishListID=13d7157a74a3ad791e29755890 http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://raven-official.webs.com:80/apps/bloghttp://www.mywedding.com/ravenandlogan/stories.html *
http://www.mywedding.com/ravenandlogan/galleries.html *
http://www.classmates.com/people/Diana-Raven-Sparks/8733278988https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/46610196-raven-sparkshttps://disqus.com/by/Starbl00dhttps://www.last.fm/user/starbl00dhttps://nz.linkedin.com/in/raven-sparks-7451a1a6 *
https://nz.pinterest.com/vvravenvv/wishlist *
https://about.me/x.raven.x *
Commerce:
https://www.etsy.com/people/ravensparkss *
https://www.depop.com/starbl00d *
https://touch.trademe.co.nz/profile/view/4354482https://www.redbubble.com/people/starbl00dJoshua Manning Bradley:
https://www.facebook.com/j.bradley.80.sixhttps://www.instagram.com/jbradley80sixhttps://www.twitter.com/jbradley80sixhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt9lj5U7JQS_F_hinzqaRlQhttps://plus.google.com/105441917571298337943 No. 506123
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Ashley and Zamboni are being discussed in the altcows thread right now.
>>>/snow/557059Should we keep it there or come back here? Altcow regulars seem to be confused as to why they're being posted there, but some anons here were getting pissy about shitting up Raven's thread, even though these two (probably one, just Ashley) inserted themselves into her drama.
No. 506126
>>506123I was quite happy for them to be mentioned here since we found them through association with Raven as long as it didn't become repetitive and we MAINLY focused on Raven, but everyone seemed angry and said it was derailing, so I went over to alt cows since that's what was asked by the majority, but apparently they aren't interested and do not even claim to know who Raven is, nor are they interested despite some anons providing links ect.
I'm not trying to derail, but it's something I noticed and was wondering the same thoughts as you anon. Maybe a farm hand could actually let us know instead of all this backseat modding?
Besides, do we still mention them in the alt thread if Ravey mentions them? Or if they mention Raven in the future?
Again, not trying to shit stir or derail, I would like to know officially because it's confusing.
No. 506130
>>506126Their interactions with Raven should be discussed here.
Ash is in the process of erasing her internet presence, so there won't be anything to discuss.
Zombgora, along with her band, is enough of a cow for the Altcow thread which is intended to be open to discussing new cows.
No. 506192
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From the Altcow snow thread. Hopefully it's about Gravy.
No. 506203
>>506192Maybe, but Raven never apologizes for anything, so. Also, we didn't say anything about either of those other people she mentions, just Jeremy Goodman that dumbass who said he
>Want me to stab them in stupid face ?So I am not sure. But it would be funny if it was about Raven, considering Ash claimed not to know anything about her misdeeds because she hadn't done any research.
No. 506213
>>506203Your point about Gravy never apologizing is legit. But "And why don't you quit pretending to be offline. You were just on your fake account" makes me want to believe it's her.
It warms my heart that Gravy asks her friends to stand up for her to internet bullies, but then when they become the subject of these threads, she is nowhere to be found.
All aboard the Gravy Train, toot toot! But those of you who expect anything in return from her can get the fuck off right now.
No. 506225
>>506192I reckon what happened is that Gravy read here while she was 'offline' because let's face it, she always reads here.
Then I reckon her and Ash either spoke and Gravy didn't believe her, OR Gravy just removed her from her friends list without saying anything. I'm guessing the latter.
Raven is a dumbass, but it was extremely easy to tell Ash's samefagging and posts so I'm sure, Raven being the paranoid person she is, just deleted her and this in turn has annoyed Ash hence her post.
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>>506192From this
>>504551 to shittalk you in two days? You lost the general of your army Raven, what did you do?
No. 506306
>>506288Yeah there is no way in hell they left the funeral and drove all the way back to saluda straight through. The funeral was sunday afternoon. that video looks to be filmed between noon-4 Monday. No fucking way.
>they're just jealous because they don't have stuff.Ha! Got us! I pray everyday I'm hit with a overdue electric bill. Damn Raven! She has everything.
No. 506321
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Ok guys, I know we had that whole "The hate sites posted the video that I made about my mom against my will" thing going on, so it may be that spiel again, BUT
Acording to Susan, Ravens sis, she did not went to the service, and 'were missed'.
Not that we did not know that already, but now there is confirmation. She scammed the hell out of those stupid people and is lying through her teeth.
Off you go spend those dollah Graven.
No. 506328
>>506321Damn that's a really beautiful urn and flower display. My heart hurts.
I have to take the second "SSC" with a grain of salt because it's not the same way she made her name and location as the photo post.
No. 506331
>>506328Exactly what I though, but, I'm gonna stick with that for now since Raven cannot confirm she WAS at the memorial.
I mean, look at those flowers. Can you imagine Raven NOT taking a pic of that and posting it to instagram if she were there?
No. 506340
>>506278So wait. She's claiming they left Friday afternoon, drove 24+ hours, went to the memorial on Sunday, then drove another 24+ hours and was home on Monday? Just want to make sure I have this straight.
Assuming she actually went to the memorial, why didn't she just stay for the committal service on Tuesday?
She took & posted a bunch of pictures before they got to the rental car place, says she took a bunch there too, but then says this wasn't the kind of ~woohoo road trip~ where you take a bunch of pictures… so she just didn't take a single other picture on the entire trip to El Paso, none once she got there, and none on her way home?
Yeah, not buying this shit at all. If I were one of the idiots who donated to her, I'd be fuming.
No. 506344
>>506340Like honestly, if you squeeze that much money and sympathy out of that many people, they deserve some real evidence that you actually used it the way you promised.
She's keeping up this racket because she told everyone that if she couldn't make it, she'd return the money to anyone who asked. But she never planned to go,
or to return any money.
And she's probably so salty in that "final" video because she just bought all this new STUFF that we're all so super jealous over, and she can't even show it off. And without being able to show off her STUFF, what's the point of being on the Internet?
No. 506351
>>506346Yeah I don't get it either. Her fans are either really dumb or naive. If I was a hardcore fan of someone, I'd probably still google them to see if they had scandals. Especially if said person had mentioned lolcow or 'hate sites' This is after all, the era of 'exposing culture'
It's crazy that they take this bitch's word as gospel and continue to give her money with such little return as well.
She's horrible to most of the people in her youtube comments.
She even
said in her latest video that she can't trust anyone even her friends, but then goes on to thank her 'supporters'
So you don't trust them enough to make content for them, but you trust them enough to give you hand outs and money?
I bet she didn't even end up mailing out their giveaways. She was such a cunt about that too. 'People are telling me which item they want! HOW RUDE'
Nah bitch. You are the rude one. When Josh dumps your ass or you have noone left, not even your son because you isolated him too, you'll come begging back to the internet and guess what, you have cried wolf too many times for people to take you seriously.
People here don't bully you for no reason, if you actually were capable of not being a victim all the time and blaming other people you could change your life, but you won't.
Fuck you Raven. You are actual scum.
No. 506359
>>506351look at some of the fans we've seen. zamboni the ebegger, ash the saccharine sweet shit stirrer, and various retards like ryan. dregs attract dregs.
this memorial thing is fucking hilarious. gran is so thick, which limits the damage she can do, and makes her so fucking obvious when she cooks up something. definitely some 'Josh' posts coming from the library soon.
(throwback to something earlier - did anyone else think the ween on the memorial page was Gir / Placebo? the 'julay goffic' seemed like a retarded callout of KF and I don't think Gran has any fans over there who would do that other than Gir)
No. 506367
>>506366This. They probably moved in with josh's mother and that's also why she can't film. I can't see her actually paying bills. Plushies ce first.
I honestly am glad her mother spent her last hours and had a lovely service put on by her children that care and love for her. Raven would have caused drama at the funeral anyway
No. 506387
>>506381Yeah she's kind of done everything she can to isolate him.
The faked miscarriage with no evidence.
He no longer seems to see his family.
He is her only support system and I feel like even though Josh is a bit of an asshole, he's empathetic and doesn't exactly wanna dump her because there's no nice way of doing it and she'll threaten suicide.
No. 506400
>>506278Might have to wait for transcript anon, but did the Hagraven actually say the words "I went to my mother's funeral" or did she just heavily imply she did? Because I agree with
>>506370 that Josh does/did seem a little more morally inclined. Maybe the Hagraven is meeting him halfway by not explicitly lying by saying she went, while not confirming she didn't go either.
But yeah. It's pretty obvious she didn't go. If she did, we'd get a 40+ minute video of her crowing about "da h8ders tried to stop meh but I made it!!1!" along with her whining about how much pain she was in during the non-stop drive, some candids from Chico's Tacos, and her showing Couch the sites. Oh, and also it was physically impossible for her to make it there and back in her time frame.
>>506367 To me it sounds like her internet hiatus may be partially to appease Josh. She mentioned multiple times in this video that Josh feels negatively about her online shenanigans and that he was instantly on board to delete his social medias. And she never fully commits to being offline (like she did when she moved). She said she will still be online to check her youtube comments just not "obsessively" - we know Gran isn't self aware enough to see her behavior as obsessive. Also, if
>>506192 is to be believed, she will still be online all day on her fake accounts.
>>506330She's 100% trying to re-write history. Which is funny because she picked the absolute worst incident to lie about. There are receipts galore and I'm pretty she herself admitted to posting her death on D's page. I knew she was a moron but this is taking it to another level. When I have time I'll compile the evidence so we can all rub it in her face and kek, assuming no one else gets to it first.
All in all, a good conclusion to the Gravy Funeral Saga. 10/10 did enjoy.
No. 506402
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>>506400Same fag. I forgot to add that she isn't confirming anything in her comments so far. People are offering her condolences and she does not address it.
No. 506424
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>>506330Alright so there are way too many receipts to post. I'll post the two most damning: Dorian confirming that yes indeed she faked her own death, and a screenshot from KF where someone appears to have transcribed her facebook status where she herself confirms she faked it - unfortunately there was no screen cap posted of it at the time and she has since deleted it so there is no way to 100% confirm that she said this.
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>>506424Also this one cuz it is a fine work of art and should be revisited from time to time
No. 506432
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>>506192Ash Sangre made another post about Gravy:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209232489123982&set=a.1807174473829.75315.1673953190&type=3
>And to those who are reading this, if you wish to see the things she’s said, wish to see that she has been online or wish to know her fake account (the one I know of) message me. I won’t post it here, but I will gladly share it.>>>/snow/557941 No. 506438
>>506434She goes on to say
>and not wanting to see me before she doeswhich sounds like she was anticipating her mom's death all the way back in 2014. But then she can't really act like it was such a shock that her mom finally died of an illness she had been dealing with since
at least 2014. It just makes her look like an even bigger piece of shit, because she knew her mom was dying the whole time, and spent all her money on useless garbage instead of actually bothering to go see her. Then she used it to scam people out of at least $1,000 and loads of pity once she actually died.
No. 506448
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>>506432Yep, momma couch is pissed at Raven. We were right.
No. 506449
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>>506278Final update
Published on Apr 16, 2018
Um, this is gonna be my very last update for a while. I am making this update for all the people that are wondering what has happened, where I went, again, and what happened with my GoFundMe and stuff like that. So I will try to make this short. No promises, though.
First of all, I did meet my goal not once, but twice, so thank you to everybody who helped me make that goal and to those who sent last minute donations which greatly helped us with gas.
I took a couple of pictures on the way to the car rental place and um, I mean, I only took like three or four pictures, but I'll upload those. This wasn't a trip for us to be like, woohoo road trip or woohoo this or woohoo that. So there's no photos aside from us when we first left.
It's been a very kind of traumatic and really hard weekend. This was the weekend my mom was laid to rest. This was the weekend to, you know…I said my goodbyes and now I need to try to find closure. It's gonna take me a while to come to terms with all this still. When Josh is here I'm fine. When I'm distracted I'm fine. When he's not here it's really, really hard on me. I don't want to talk about my mom. I don't want to talk about the dog. I don't want to talk about anything at the moment.
The only thing that this video really is going to talk about is why I am not gonna be on social media again for a while. I don't know this time when I'll come back. The other times I've left, I've left, you know, for pretty much the same reasons, though not as extreme. But I've had really nothing, and so I've come back and I've come back and I've come back. And this time I really can't see why I would come back, to be completely honest with you. Like, it just hasn't appealed to me for a long time, and this has just pushed me over the edge. I just, I just can't keep doing this. One of us has got to stop, and the fuckin' people that stalk me are never gonna stop. And I'm tired of this back and forth, back and forth, me trying to justify my life, and them just doing these things that are getting worse and worse and worse.
What they did this time is, I had posted an update and my mom's obituary. And I guess from the obituary page it linked to her memorial page which I didn't even know. I thought it was the same thing on different pages, so I didn't know until the day that we left. And they had gone and taken one of my really old videos and they posted it on her memorial page as me.
And this was an old video where I was talking about me and her and how we didn't have a great relationship and kind of the hardships of growing up and, you know, things like that. Like, when I started my Youtube I started it for stupid…you know, it was nothing. It was because I was dating somebody. It was my ex in New Zealand. I was dating him, and it was a way for him to see me. And then people started watching me, and it just kind of went from there. It turned into this dumb nothing for me to show him. I, I was real stupid about the way the internet worked. I didn't know that what you uploaded was visible to, like, everybody. I was just, you know, like a kid, you know. I hadn't really used the internet before, and I didn't really think anything of it, that things come back to haunt you, and other people could see shit, and they'd they be interested or wanting to watch your life. And, and then I started being watched.
And it turned into, like, therapy for me because in New Zealand, you know, I was all alone. I was alone for the whole time I was there. I didn't have any friends. I mean, I had people I talked to ish. I could never a hundred percent trust any of them, so I sat in my house alone. Logan didn't really talk to me. Dorian didn't talk to me. At the time I was with my first ex, he didn't really talk to me. We didn't really have anything in common, and so I sat there by myself. And then I realized, you know, I've got this platform where I could just vent and just talk. And it really was therapeutic. I just sat there and I talked about whatever I needed to get off of my chest. I opened my mouth and I just let myself talk about whatever it was, and I felt so much better. I got feedback, I got support, and I got to get it out. Unfortunately that made me a target because apparently you're not supposed to do that. And I overshared or whatever and was hated for it which makes absolutely no sense to me because it wasn't hurting anybody. It was just me talking for my own good, you know. And over the years I've had to watch what I say and how I word things because I've been judged for every single thing that I've ever said or done. Like, I'm like the world's most horrible person. And I am not.
I've recently come back under attack because on Facebook I was tagged in a post, and it was one of those where the person goes and they tag like everybody on their friends list. He's mutual friends with somebody. And they said, oh, this person's a pedophile, block them, you don't want this trash on your friends list, yada yada yada. And I had a look into it, and this guy was dating this girl that was five years younger than him. And I was like, for one, that's not a pedophile, and for two, I'm not gonna throw somebody under the bus, block them, delete them, make their life hell, especially over something that I get called all the time.
Now these people are on this whole pedophile thing because of Logan. And it's like, a pedophile is somebody who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. I was in a marriage with somebody who was younger, and I understand completely that you hear the age gap and you're like, what the fuck, that's disgusting. You can think it's wrong, morally wrong, blah blah blah blah blah. But it is not being a pedophile. It was something that happened that neither of us are even in anymore. It's been almost a year since we have been split up, and I'm still getting hell for it. He was willing, whether he knew what he was getting into or not. The fact is we both wanted that relationship, we both got into the relationship. It wasn't for me to manipulate him, hurt him, or sexually abuse him or anything like that. It was just two people that thought they were in love and they got together and after just about six years it didn't work out. But we were married. We had a relationship. It was not sex-based or anything like that. And I'm sick to death of being torn apart about it.
And yeah, I'm not gonna do that to somebody else. So I commented, I said, you know, I don't agree with this, there's not a huge age gap. I had a 19 year age gap with my ex, and I will pay for that relationship til the day I die, and I'm not doing that to somebody else. And because I did the right thing…People read my comment and they were like, oh, oh, that's disgusting… [cut] And all this shit just started all over again tenfold just because I refused to do what's been done to me to somebody else. And I don't regret my decision because I'm not a bully and I'm not gonna go and and judge somebody else for their decision, you know. I'm just not. I'm not gonna do it.
And yeah, because of that they tried to get my GoFundMe taken down. They said it was a scam, it was fake. So then I linked to the obituary and they, you know, they went to her page and they did that.
And it's like, you know, they did the same kind of shit, hurtful shit when I had my ectopic and my miscarriages. They took the pictures of my, my baby before I lost it and said that I aborted them and, like, real just obnoxious bullshit stuff. I also have screenshots of when my mom first had her stroke back in 2014 and I was trying to get money to go see her, and they were like, you reap what you sow, pedo. Like my mom deserved to have a stroke because they think I'm a pedophile. So I know they have no respect for anybody. But to to disrespect the dead like that, it's just, I don't…I can't even come to terms with that. I just can't do it. I don't understand how somebody could be so hurtful and hateful. [the light dims] I have no idea why that just dimmed. Yeah, I have no idea why somebody…how somebody can be so disgusting that they would stoop that low. But I mean, I shouldn't put anything past them at this point, honestly. I just…yeah, it's been…this is the seventh year that I'm going through this kind of bullying and stalking and hearing the same thing about me being said constantly constantly constantly constantly. I'm not in that relationship anymore. I'm not in New Zealand anymore. My mom died. They're trying to say that I'm trying to use her to get sympathy. No, I was explaining that she died, I'm freaking the fuck out. I was so fucking upset because I, I never got to make it to see her one last time, and I desperately needed to get to her funeral. And that's not using people, that's…it's facts, that's just what it is.
And uh, they don't understand how facts and emotions work. They don't understand that you could have a bad relationship with your parent but still love them and not want them to die, you know. Just because we didn't have the perfect relationship doesn't mean she's no longer my mother, you know. It's something my own son could learn. And yes, I did tell him. I, I contacted him, I told him. You know, he didn't even ask, mom, how are you doing, how are you feeling, nothing. Like, he just…he's so goddamn selfish still. He has nothing to say to me. But whatever, I did my, my part and I let him know because I felt he had the right to know. So you don't have to ask about that.
But, you know, your parent is always your parent, good or bad. I mean, unless they really really fucked you over and even then there's that desire to still them to love you, you know, want them to be your your parent. And my mom and I have had a really up-and-down relationship. But I understand for the most part because she…You know, her parents died when she was six years old. She didn't have role models or parents, and she told me many times, I don't know how to be a mom, I didn't have a mom and dad. And I always felt really bad for her even if I resented her growing up because, I mean, it kind of sucked. But um, I never wanted her to die. And I wanted to be able to say my goodbyes. And thank the fuck I have so many, just so many good people out there. You guys help me.
Um, but like I said in my last video where I said I don't, like, I don't have the heart for this anymore or whatever. I just can't keep doing this to myself. This was, like, the last straw. They can go online and pretend that I've killed myself again or said that I'm dead or whatever. So I'm putting this out there: whatever you see from "me" [air quotes]. It doesn't matter how authentic it looks: pictures, recent Facebook URLs, email addresses. They make shit similar. When I disappeared when I moved here, I got emails from "Emily Boo" which was her email address plus, like, a dot at the end, something really, really minute. The thing is is I know her email address because we used to email, so I knew it wasn't her, but they pretended to be her to write me. They're real, real slick and really fucking sneaky. And when they see that I am not online, they will go nuts talking about me and faking screenshots and all this stuff.
And it sucks that I have to say this, but I do. The last time I disappeared, not when I came here, but before that, they made a page saying that I had killed myself. It was a rest in peace Facebook page saying I OD'ed on insulin. And then when my friends recognized that that was not my handwriting or the way that I write, they came on and said, oh this is the real Raven Sparks, I, I didn't really kill myself I faked my own death for attention or to see if anybody cared or some bullshit. And they're still talking about that. It's like there are different groups of people that are doing hate sites about me. And one of these groups did it, and the other group was like, there…she's just trying to say that there's more than one hate site about her, who the fuck does she think she is? Like, as if I don't have hate sites about me. But yet there's a handful of them that are doing all this shit to me, and they've been doing it for it now going on seven years. So yeah, they're fucking obsessive, and they did that to me last time. I wouldn't put them past it to reuse that again because they can't get over the pedophile thing. They can't get over any of that even though I'm with someone that's only ten years younger than me now.
But you know, I have a life here now. I've got a doggie to worry about. Me and Josh, we have our life. We talk, we watch stuff together. We, we don't really go out, but we have a damn good life. And I'm not gonna let what's happening online affecting me to the point where it's gonna affect our relationship. This relationship means more than anything else in the world to me, and I'm not, I'm not gonna let it keep tearing me apart the way that it is.
So my Facebook and my Facebook page…I still have the…I left the horror page and the humor page up because I have other admins on those pages. Goth Boys I don't run. Metal Men and all those pages I don't run so…or there's other people that run them for me, so those pages are still up. But I cannot be contacted through those pages. My fanpage is not up. My YouTube is just gonna be left as is. If I have lingering videos that are scheduled then, then they're scheduled, I'll leave those. If not then not. I'm not even going to check. I don't even want to check am I scheduled. I just want to get this up and out there and just forget it.
And yeah, that's about it. I don't know when. L4ike, Josh, out of respect for me, has also removed his facebook because we're kind of on it for each other. And if I'm not on there's really no reason for him to be on. His choice, not mine. I didn't make him do it. He said, oh, you're gonna deactivate, I'll deactivate, too. He's been wanting to get offline for a while, anyway. He sees social media as fucking evil, and I agree. We used it, we met each other. There's really no need for either of us to be on it. I stayed on it for my supporters, you know. Every time I wanted to leave I have all these people, but don't go, I miss you, I miss you. And I kept putting everybody else first, and it was just making me more and more and more miserable.
And what they've done on my mom's memorial page is just the last straw for me. And they're not taking anything else from me. Not my time, not seeing what I'm up to. They can go batshit fucking crazy wondering what is happening in my life. And good.
So thank you everybody who has supported me over the years from back in 2011…no, I first got on in 2007. So 2007 on, thank you so much for being here, being around, listening to me, relating to me, liking me, whatever, watching me go through all my different life stages and changes, and your support. Thank you for your help with the getting to my mom's funeral, the…that fund, funding donation thing. I didn't even think it would work and it did. And you guys came through for me and in a way I'll never ever be able to repay. And um, that helped, it helped me so much. You guys don't even know.
And um, I know that you will understand why I just need to get the fuck off line. This is too much, and it's not worth my mental or emotional health, and it's not worth affecting my relationship. It's not worth what it does to me to have to see myself dragged through the mud, especially for doing the right thing and not being a bully. Um, I just can't take it anymore. This doesn't mean they've won. It just means that I have better things to do with my life than to keep feeding into their bullshit and keep going around in this circle with them. I post, they post, I post, they post, I defend myself, they post and they rip it apart and they keep on with the same old same old same old. I want to be free, and the only way for me to be free is not to be online which is fine.
We've got a wedding to plan for which unfortunately everybody's gonna miss, but it is what it is. I will of course come back and check my Youtube comments here and there. I'm not gonna obsessively check it every day, but I will check it and, you know, accept the comments as they come in when I see them when I am online.
I don't really have anything else to say. This has droned on a bit. I thought this was gonna be like five minutes, but it never is. Fitting for a goodbye video. But yeah, the haters are gonna have to just drive themselves crazy wondering what the fuck I'm up to now. And they're gonna say, we don't care what she's up to, we don't care what she does, oh good for her, let's see how long she'll be gone now, yada yada yada. But they're gonna go crazy and they're gonna be looking online, hoping to find me somewhere, hoping to find some dirt on me that they haven't already found. And then when they don't find me online and they don't find anything they're gonna be like, oh my god, this is her. And then they're gonna make fake profiles of me as they do and as they've already shown that they did last time. So I already know what to expect and you guys know what to expect. I don't want to hear it. If you see, oh my god, Raven said this or Raven did that. No. Unless you see my face attached to it saying, by the way I'm back online, this is my profile or my profiles are back, do not believe it. Unless you see Josh online saying Raven is dead or something has happened to her, do not believe it. It's just them. So don't fall into it. They…they're obsessed, like psychotically obsessed. It's just gone way past the point of unnatural. And they can play by themselves now because I'm not playing anymore.
Take care you guys, and I will see you who knows when. I might just never come back. Shit, it already feels good not to be online. So I'll see you around if I see you around. If not, take care. And um, [she cracks her knuckles] just don't believe what you read online cuz people are fucking stupid and they have no life and they're jealous of people that have support and have stuff that they will never have. That's the sign of an empty, lonely, pathetic person. And you should really feel sorry for them because they just, they have nothing. Bye.
No. 506451
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>>506449Screenshots included at the end of the video.
No. 506454
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>>506449Pics included at the end of the video.
No. 506462
>>506449Sooo she
didn't go to the funeral?
No. 506463
>>506278>>506449This video was posted on YouTube Tuesday, 04/17/18 at 04:19:17 GMT (so 12:19 a.m. EDT, her local time). It was obviously filmed during the day though, so I guess Monday. Her mom's memorial service was Sunday the 15th, ending at 3 p.m. EDT. So she immediately got in the car afterward and drove 1,600 miles, 24+ hours back to Saluda? And somehow made it back in time to film this video during the day on Monday?
>>506454>>506455>>506457lol so the only pictures she took on her trip were still in Saluda County. Okay Gravy.
No. 506465
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>>506448Ash is pissed and REALLY does not know Raven at all. kek
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>>506449
>I'm with someone that's only ten years younger than me now.But I shop him to look twenty years younger.
No. 506471
>>506462I think it's safe to assume.
>>506468She also said she wouldn't publicly talk about it, and then 10 minutes later….
But Ash isn't getting any hate from me. Girl is pissed and rightfully so. Drag Gravy to filth, Ash!
No. 506484
>>506482This isn't a video. It was a comment on the memorial page.
>>506465LOL! Maybe you should quit while you're ahead, Ash. Getting a little cringe.
No. 506485
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>>506473I'm curious where this will lead. With his family against Raven, I wonder if he will dump her. But in Raven's mind, I believe she thought Couch was her final destination - she snagged him with the little remaining "good looks" she had left and is ready to settle in for the rest of her life. She knows her prospects are rapidly disappearing. And she has zero prospects except maybe Ryan (old screen cap).
So like, what happens to her? Does Josh drive her ass to El Paso and dump her off?
No. 506517
>>506321We all knew this was what she was going to do, but can you imagine being such garbage that you use your mom’s death to score money for junk food and fucking toys.
This cumrag. She is so vile and I hope she gets dumped by her current patsy real soon.
No. 506523
>>506521Luckily they were capped.
Ash needs to go to KF imo, that way she can get verified and spill without everyone bitching that what she’s saying is bs.
I have a tinfoil that the person who was derailing last thread was fucking Gir/Marion/etta because that bitch can’t stand not being in the spotlight where Raven is concerned. She’s a cow herself.
No. 506525
>>506521I really think she is one of those people that regret ranting, she always delete the aggravated posts she makes (sha also deleted those
>>505714 and >>557477) remember to always cap rants, people. kek
Also, by the time we posted, Raven must have used one of those 454840 accounts to harass her.
No. 506534
>>506533Oooh she’s sneaky. That’s the only way to wipe convos on FB, but how the fuck did she ge them to respond that fast?
CAP EVERYTHING ASH!
No. 506535
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>>506529She posted Ruby Woo in one of her rants. Earlier today Ruby was from Saluda but I guess Hagraven removes that and I did not get a screen shot.
No. 506536
>>506534Ash, if you are reading this and cannot respond for that allegedly ban:
Dump all the screenshots and txt somewhere like a MEGA link. We will grab it, then you can delete it and be move on with your life.
No. 506544
>>506536@ Ash, you could also use
https://imgur.com/ for images or
https://pastebin.com/ for text.
Or you could email julay@lolcow.email and I'll post.
No. 506548
>>506544If this is Gir with the julay shit please fuck off.
If it’s someone from KF trying to help get the milk, thanks, but we’re a little gunshy since that ‘julay goffic’ comment was left. Gir is not welcome here.
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No. 506562
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>>506544She will do it. Lets give her time.
No. 506567
>>506562It's late o'clock at my turf, but the anticipation of the sweet, creamy milk flowing in frothing waves stops me from going to bed.
And #prayforjosh, he might be a couchie extraordinaire, but I don't think he deserves to have his life ruined by this bruja.
No. 506568
>>506567I'm torn on whether I believe Josh deserves this or not.
On one hand, he seems a little slow. Plus I wouldn't wish Gravy on my worst enemy.
On the other, he was fucking awful to Claudia, and supports (or at least goes along with) Gravy's latest scam.
No. 506571
>>506551Why was she banned?
Ash, go to KF (Kiwi Farms) and grab a mod, there’s always someone on. They will help you to get verified, and also help you with image hosting, etc.
That way you don’t have to worry about posters/mods here reporting/banning you.
Unreal. She wants to spill milk and we ban her.
No. 506583
>>506571according to her in
>>506432 she was banned for no-sage quite a while back in another thread.
>>506551 seems to be a new ban? for samefagging with the goth defense force last thread. no-one knew she was gonna flip.
>>506578that was always weird, on the one hand he was all fight me, nerds. on the other hand, gran was already moving into control mode and telling him he mustn't look. and since he looks more and more dead inside with every appearance, and seems to have been cut off from his family, I think he's more likely to attack her than defend her.
No. 506591
>>506585yeah and she begged on an official site. I think we can at least report her to gofundme because of scam.
Her sisters message, that she's been missed at her mom's funeral should be proof that she didn't use the money, she begged for, to go there?
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>>506527>>506585https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604694-Reporting-a-GoFundMeI think someone would need hard evidence that she committed fraud. Right now, even though we're all pretty certain she didn't go, it's just speculation based on the timeline not adding up, along with her history as a terrible person.
No. 506596
>>506585>>506591can we please not turn into the JSBS thread?
no, it is not illegal. she stated that if she couldn't achieve getting to the memorial, she'd use it for bills, so that's covered. also, you must be new to gofundme, anon #2 - they have zero shits to give about scamming because it makes them a lot of money. you'd be very, very hard pressed to gather enough evidence to make them do anything.
No. 506615
>>506610>Firstly I want to say I feel bad doing this. Even though she’s done this to me 3 times now, I still feel guilty giving information >I’ll get to the messages I have saved in a moment. But let me give you the accounts I know of>Raven Sparks>Raven Bradley>Ruby Woo>Aurora Baphowitch>The Bradley messages are somehow unable to be seen. I could see them before but as of today, I cannot. >These specific messages I will not post on my personal Facebook because of my family, friends and coworkers. They need not see the drama that I was brought into. >The car accident. She messaged me the day after and told me that she wanted to go to Walmart which is a ways away from her and stop and get shakes and fries. Josh had just gotten off a 16 hour shift due to the holidays but still wanted to make her happy since she was stuck inside all day. So they were using his mothers car for him to get back and forth to work. So while he was driving back home, he fell asleep at the while while she was videoing herself. And he hit an elderly coming coming towards them. I know for a fact she wasn’t pregnant because they burned her tubes after her last eptopic to stop anymore pregnancies that could cause her to become ill. But this is how she traps men. With faux pregnancies. So Joshs mom was very upset, no insurance, he was at fault. She quit talking to Raven. And apparently Josh as well and refuses to help anymore. But in order to keep him. She said she had a miscarriage and he was at fault. It made him depressed. She sent me photos of her stomach saying she put a tiny bit of weight back on and it made her look pregnant. Also raven was not injured aside from slight whiplash. She wanted to get money out of it but found out that would require suing her boyfriend. >About a month later she messaged me asking about opiates. I’m a CNA and k ow about most medications and she asked how she could go about getting more from doctors by saying she was in pain. I told her if she is legitimately in pain to go to a pain specialist. She then confided in me that she was fine and that Josh had been taking them constantly and that was why he was fired from Fedex due to a random drug screen. She says that is why he was looking so haggard and that he acted her because if he didn’t have these pills, he would go into a rave and he had slammed her into the wall screaming in her face. But she said she couldn’t leave him because she hasn’t nowhere else to go and no one to help her. I don’t m ow if any of this is true, but it is what she told me. If it is true. I feel bad for him. And he needs help and to get away from her. >The reason why I am so angry, she and I do have mutual acquaintances. One of them was kind enough to tell me that Raven had a master plan this whole time. To scam for money and go hang out with her because she lives in the same state. She also started talking about me saying I jumped into the CY Samael fiasco to gain a following. I do not want people to follow me. I am private aside from posting photos. I do not want notoriety. Heaven forbid anyone have attention aside from her. I guess she figured this mutual pal wouldn’t send me a message. And honestly, I was shocked she did as well. >But I am glad I now know. I never delved deep into her past. I never knew what I do now. And frankly I’m aghast at the things she has done and said. I work with people who are mentally and physically disabled, she is not one of those people. I also do volunteer work with my local shelter every so often. And to see that she abuses animals makes me so mad. I just can’t even speak about it. But after reading through all of her threads, I get why she is on there. No. 506626
>>506619I've grabbed all of them. So if no one posts until later, when I have time, I will dump them, just have to put them in order.
TLDR she confirms we got EVERYTHING right. Adresses, jobs, personal data and info. She lurks here EVERYDAY, there is even a message from Josh telling her that we've won and to let us be and stop worrying about us.
>I'd make them all answer for it and then torture them and their families slowly while make them look me in the face.I'M DYING. This is the best milk in ages.
No. 506628
>>506609Thanks Ash! Good luck dealing with the Hagraven. I knew she was mental but this….this is on a different level.
Good to get confirmation that literally everything that Raven publicly says is a lie! Not at all obsessed with the haters, eh Gravy?
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>>506643Thanks for dropping by and for releasing the caps!
I don’t believe Josh was taking her pills or beating her. Diana is a pathological liar, as these lovely caps show. She’s just laying groundwork to move on from him when she finds someone with more money.
Her sister is so pretty!
No. 506659
>>506619Wow these caps remind me of a crazy bpd friend that used to use me whenever she was fighting with a boyfriend or something. She was so similar to Raven.
I get the vibe from Ash's responses, that she merely pitied Raven. Notice how her responses are a little bit restrained. She still says stuff like 'cyber stalkers' but a lot of it seems like oh wow, that's terrible. Very generic responses. I used to be the same after my crazy friend burned me several times.
I feel like Josh needs to know about the fake pregnancy, from Raven's posts he kind of seems like a piece of shit, but it
is Raven after all. I feel bad that she has isolated him from his family. Josh needs to get the fuck out of there and leave this troll to rot in Saluda somewhere. Without internet she wont be able to snag another victim and pretend she had a miscarriage.
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This is what bothered me so much. It seems like she was just using Josh for a way back home. Not because she truly cares.
No. 506668
>>506649Sorry anon, I meant gravy is a dirty fighter and I don't trust even a milimeter of her. She has the ability to twist and manipulate everything she comes into contact with. I'm happy that this IS out there now, my intent was not to disparage you personally in any way, apologies if it read that way.
You're doing godbears own work anon. TY.
No. 506673
>>506664Wow, this is like partially admitting that she uses people to get to different places.
Poor Josh.
It's almost like she is like 'yeah I've tried to use people to get where I want, lucky this time it's someone I actually tolerate and like'
No. 506677
>>506666Nice quads, anon. Looks like she’s saying what she did was illegal, so…draw your own conclusions!
I love seeing narcs talking to people they think they can use. So different.
Thanks for the milk, Ash.
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>>506694I did have these. They were in my messages on her Raven Bradley account. They disappeared late last night. I should have saved them.
No. 506697
>>506690Female.
>>506610 says "To scam for money and go hang out with her because she lives in the same state."
Julie-Ann is the only friend in SC Raven has mentioned.
No. 506705
>>506692I don't want to believe it, but I cannot tell since he has been known to have slurred speech.
Either way, I hope he gets away. I'm not taking Raven's side, trust me.
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Reposting the best ones. Here is confirmation they lied about their break up to divorce fast
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>>506709Talking about Logan being hurt from the break up, it wasn’t mutual
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>>506710Raven hurting Logan more, with that girl who was talking to him.
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Whose work is this!? I nearly died when I saw she screen shot it! Legendary.
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>>506711The 500 a month trailer they cannot afford
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>>506714Youtube money is needed!
No. 506716
>>506705I don’t see why he wouldn’t have slurred speech back when he was working sixteen hour days. Also, everything that was said to Ash still came from Raven first, it’s not like Ash herself met them or anything.
It’s a lot easier for me to believe Raven was taking them over ‘He forced me to get him more and more pills while I was struggling with the tears in my liver and with the horrors of the accident and MUH MISCARRIAGE!’
No. 506717
>>506706not to knock trailer living but jfc she's so proud of that trailer. "look what i scammed up this time"
The new trailer they're in is even worse.
No. 506721
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>>506535Shows when you search it up
No. 506733
>>506731Wait, wait, she pretends to be married couples? As Facebook profiles? She is fucking batshit crazy. Wow. I’m impressed.
She really is a horrorcow.
No. 506750
>>506738Okay, this is officially creepy as hell. She even writes all the comments? I can’t even imagine all the time it must take to do all that shit and make sure you don’t make any mistakes. On forty plus profiles.
I wonder if any of the sock accounts were friended by the other socks? This is getting more and more interesting by the minute! Thanks for milk!
No. 506763
>>506716She was definitely on her oxycodone during two of the videos she filmed after the accident.
>>506709Of course they lied about the length of their separation when New Zealand makes it so easy by only requiring a sworn afadavit.
>>506713I posted the cake. I found it in Google image search.
No. 506775
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everyone on pencreek is going to hear her hollering kek
No. 506777
>>506713The pathetic thing is she probably could have had a nice life with Josh if she just stayed offline. The screenshot shows that he is trying to warn her not to feed into the stuff online (little does he know, it's very useful dirt on her)
Also other anons have commented on his fed up appearance when she starts talking about hadddurs.
Even Logan got to the point where he'd roll his eyes.
She even claimed that money isn't a big deal and that her and Josh are happy with each other.
Yeah so happy that you can't keep your fat fingers off the camera for a minute because you
need money from your
supporters (aka dumb kind souls that just wanna help out and are blinded to your bullshit)
No. 506784
>>506763Yeah, she was high as a kite in a couple of videos. I’m not buying that she’d even let Josh get his hands on that, surely that shit was her precioussss while she was getting them.
One hundred percent she is laying the bitchy groundwork to dump Couchie. She has a long history of shittalking everyone else and if the bloom is already off the rose to the degree that she guilts him about a never-was baby, she’s definitely on the lookout.
To be a fly on the wall in that filthy hovel tonight. I hope there are no guns in the place, seriously. She’s going to go ballistic.
No. 506785
>>506784Right? Can you imagine her bellowing about the vicious liessss spread about her online?
Josh needs to wait till she's asleep, grab Doja and get the fuck out of there.
No. 506786
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OP anon here. All I did was Google various combinations of her name and known handles.
No. 506793
>>506784And he cares too much about her to take her meds and let her suffer. When she enumerated his injuries he downplayed them.
Despite lacking the motivation to work fulltime to support himself and get off his mom's couch, he has always seemed determined to do so out of his love for her.
No. 506802
>>506738holy shit kek
do you know any of these profiles?
No. 506808
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Gravy's sister (or someone posing as her) posted again, which means that if it really
is her, she saw the post about Diana not being there, and she left it, so they're either both legit, or both fake.
For anyone here from Kiwi, where there seems to be some confusion, these are Raven's mom's memorial links.
1. The Sunset Funeral Home page, which was trolled and then deleted:
https://archive.is/2018.04.11-10:54:15/http://www.sunsetfuneralhomes.net/obituaries/Kim-Sparks/2. The new one:
http://www.sunsetfuneralhomes.net/obituaries/Kim-Sparks-2/3. The Legacy.com/El Paso Times guestbook:
https://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/elpasotimes/kim-s-sparks-condolences/188715023 No. 506809
>>506804It’s always a good thing to keep your lip zipped around narcs, they love gathering info so they can use it to fuck with you.
Do all of the profiles she uses have a photo that tells people it’s her? Like, was that picture with the spiders supposed to be super seekrit Raven code? I mean, she’s got the maturity of a twelve year old, it’d fit.
No. 506813
>>506328>>506278God she's so retarded.
She did not go, she kept the money.
Her statement of "there were no photos taken!" Is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
She took photos of, AND SHARED, when her cat was run over by a car.
She took photos of, AND SHARED when her fetus was aborted.
But her mothers funeral is not occasion enough to take photos?
>>506345>>506331She would have been like a paparazzi in that funeral if she DID go, and she would have made a video an hour long and 2 mins at least to talk about every single minute detail of the funeral, how sad she was and how beautiful the flowers and urn was and wishing she could take it all home, her dress and what she wore, we all know. And of course the video would be all about her in every aspect, and not about remembering her mother.
Also of course she would bitch and moan about how gruesome her family is and how horrid they treat her.
There is every reason in the entire world to believe this to be true
>>506321.
How in the fucking hell is it possible they drove there and back, non-stop, (which even if we do give it the benefit of the doubt is a serious drive within the time frame) and she can post a video THIS soon and not look worse than normal, and on top of that NOT complaining about muh tailbone and whatever else.
When has Raven NOT posted a lengthy video, describing her adventures and rambling on and on?
When has she NOT posted ca 1452 pictures of EVERYTHING it included? (On every platform, none the less.)
The rental car, how awesome/horrible it was to drive, pics of her and couchboy in the car, pics of travelling along the way, the gas station slim jims, the taco bell lunches, etc.
When has she ever let such an opportunity for asspats just slide on by?
-When its all lies and deceit.
She takes pictures of and posts every gruesome thing she can for attention, yet this there is NO evidence whatsoever to prove she went.
Noone should believe she went from her pictures in the Jeep that is more than a Jeep. That was 100% a plushie and slim jims run to walmart.
Sorry if this is samefagging alot of what has been said, I havent read everything quite yet. But her egregious lies about this kind of shit is incredibly infuirating, not only to the poor people who donated for the funeral but also to her mother. Which deserved so much more since she did after all birth, take care of, and put up with this sack of lard posing as a human being.
No. 506814
>>506808Thanks for the heads up, anon.
So.
How soon do you figure this thread will start to derail? There’s no way she’s going to be able to keep herself from rageposting tonight.
No. 506819
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>>506813yfw you get caught up
No. 506821
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How Josh found Shack #1.
No. 506823
>>506321While it's obvious she did not leave her trailer, I'm still not convinced her sister's post is not a troll. For one, her sister hates her. Why would she go out of her way to make Raven feel special or include her in any way? As far as trolling, pretending to be someone at the funeral and outing Gravy for not going seems like a pretty good way to get another freakout rant.
But yeah. Either way she didn't go.
No. 506827
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Forgot about this
No. 506829
>>506821She just treats people like utter shit. I genuinely feel bad for him. Everyone in her world is a useful idiot.
I bet Josh’s mom would rather have him on the couch tbh. He seems slow to me. It’s just gross.
No. 506870
>>506844>>506832>>506834>>506836>>506840>>506843>>506844Victor is Dorian's father.
Chris was her first husband. She expressed much regret over their relationship in the My Story video quoted in a previous thread.
Andres Perez was her second husband. Her name reverted to Sparks after their divorce
>>>/pt/12471.
Ryan Cradock was her third husband.
Her name was Diana Dawn Sparks. Sparks was her stepfather's surname. She changed her first name from Diana to Raven after she moved to New Zealand. Her name appears as Raven Diana Sparks on her marriage certificate to Logan.
No. 506873
Whoa, Raven's flubbery wild ride! I'm aghast. Mostly, we anons are sort of…worst scenario, skeptical bitches. To find all of our wild hypotheses of Raven's malfeasance are actually true has sort of blown my fucking mind. This is the milk that was more than milk. Fuck, Ash, this was such a good read. Btw, Ash, we can be pretty decent at lolcow but once you stop providing milk some of us get quite shitty and will accuse pretty much anyone of attention whoring. So the drop was great and we all appreciate it. You did god's work. I know you may have stupidly defended a shit stain, but any person who's a bit naive and has had a toxic person in their life can sympathize. I know I've been dumb enough to support a shit stain. Sometimes you just want to believe the best in people. Whatever. This is gold. I'm so happy.
Anons, I, along with other oldfags, traveled here from mass exodus to mass exodus during the /cgl/ purge. We may have lost our queen, Pixyteri, but let us stop lamenting the end of the Golden Age of Pixyteri. For now we have the Fall of the Shack of Raven. An age of spooky spiders and milky saggy titted cakes of glory. Let our fields be plentiful, fellow farmers. Ash, great prophet. Realize the greatness of the Word (screenshots). Amen.
No. 506875
>>506872This thread is a goldmine. So Raven was pissed because his mom was sad she didn’t have a car anymore? So she blocked them?
Kek am I actually reading this right? This is insane.
No. 506876
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>>506870Her birthname is Diana Dawn Camerlin, as you said, she adopted her stepfathers name (Sparks) when she went to live with her mom.
Also, Chris was Christopher Rivera and just so Raven can be even more pissed, here's a blast from the past.
No. 506886
>>506878Dude, she fucking brags happily how hurt he is. Is pissed off about him having a new girlfriend, but then victorious about her being a farmer (some of us warned that dumb bitch). She was so happy that she left him broken. This is one fucked horrorcow. Fuck.
And Josh…his mother pretty much left him because of Raven. Josh WAS THAT FUCKING WORTH IT?!?! WAS GOTH SAGGING PUSSY WORTH YOUR MOTHER?!!? The irony of Josh yelling at Dorian for his attitude toward his abusive mother, yet he lets a woman fuck over his own mother. A mother who let a fucking 30 year old son crash on her couch. Raven didn't even let her teen son do that. I hated Josh for the way he treated Claudia, but no one deserves Raven, not even his hick ass. The guy worked 16 hours straight, tried his best to take Raven's fatass out for the most embarrassing reasons and still had the nerve to blame him and pin a fake pregnancy on him when it was her fucking fault?!?!
Couchie, bro…bro! What are you doing?! Go back to your poor southern momma. Make up for those poor "lost" strays by taking care of Doja. Sleep on her couch and use your money to repay her for her car instead of feeding an ugly sloth. Dude, you're still young. Young enough for a predator. Go fix your life. There's time! Claudia was so pretty…Your family looked lovely. Fuck, man…
No. 506894
>>506892Hmm, I wish she had told you more about the dogs and the cats, that bugged me.
(try not to use emojis here, friendly tip!)
No. 506901
>>506899That's actually bad enough, but maybe I'm just a dog lover. And Josh's identity seems to be big on dogs. No wonder he looks dead. She's killed a big part of who he is.
Anything about the small dogs she got or Doja?
No. 506902
>>506819Damn this is why every time Raven goes "REEEE IM GETTING OFF THE INTERNET!!!" Secretly I'm afraid she ACTUALLY will. But then I remember all evidence proves she never does.
This milk is gold…
Can hardly wait for her to spin a web of lies to cover her ass on this one, and post a ragevid.
It will be glorious.
The only thing I wish, if there were wishes to be had, was that this whole thing with Ash would go down AFTER she could get the milk about the funeral saga.
Imagine if Raven spilled the tacos to Ash about pocketing the money and not going and she had those screenshots to post too..
Oh well, Ash put up with it for long enough. She deserves a medal.
No. 506903
>>506901No. Not at all.
She told me when she got the one cat but that was it.
No. 506905
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No. 506906
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Holy shit this bitch is hella manipulative.
She wants to talk about how obsessed we are all the time but she's been obsessed with us the whole time.
No. 506912
>>506908She's so focused on herself throughout this whole thing. Did she ever bother to ask how
you were doing?
No. 506916
>>506908I know what you mean, I've had friends who are very similar to Raven but not as malicious as her.
I am glad you got out before she swallowed you whole, don't get me wrong.
It just seriously irks me with this funeral thing. With her whole cryfest I really did have high hopes she would actually give enough fucks to go.
But nope, not Raven.
No. 506918
>>506917Whoops, meant
>>506908I think we all need to Q and A with Ash, like we did with Dorian's fiance? I think she's proved enough receipts to correlate her claims. Since we're missing accounts, I bet you know about some pretty milky shit outside of what you've dropped, Ash!
No. 506922
>>506920Man, if I ever had a hate boner it would be now. Did Logan find out? Did she complain to you about the porn stuff? Did that happen while she was cheating?
>>506921Understandable and you're a good person. Just know if you did, we know it's lies and it would only reflect badly on Raven. If anything, we're good about not doxxing family members or believing anything about them. No one had anything bad to say about the family photos with Raven which was posted here. They seemed nice. If you're set on not discussing it then that's a good decision, but know that not one person would ever assume or believe anything Raven has said about them. Even if you can vaguely say what she's said about people and not mention who, it would be great to exposing her character. Even provide proof to others who trust her. I know I'm trying to to convince you, but whatever you decide you've done so much. I hope anons have your back from now on. Not as a personal army, but just laying off.
No. 506926
>>506920I can't believe this fucking bitch accused Logan of cheating because he watched porn like every dude on the planet, and aired all his dirty laundry, including his particular tastes in porn, when she
actually cheated on him—multiple times, in real life and online.
Also, I hope Josh is aware that this relationship will end the exact same way it began. She will begin talking to some other dude online behind his back, fall madly in love with him, pull away from Josh, air
his dirty laundry to anyone who will listen, slander his name with bullshit accusations about how he rapes and beats her and he's addicted to drugs and weird porn, and then she'll run away with this new man. Wash, rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.
No. 506933
>>506922No. Logan doesn’t know. Yes she did mention the pornography addiction. It really made her mad and she made him call his mother and tell her that he had an addiction. I think that is when it started to go downhill. As much as she is online, I doubt the poor guy could even attempt sex with her. She’s lucky he only resorted to visual pleasantries instead of sleeping around.
Two people, I won’t name them, are mutual online friends. She talks badly of his girlfriend (very pretty girl) and gave private information that he trusted her with about their sexuality life. Very wrong in my opinion. And they still back her up. I don’t have the heart to tell them. Recently married happy couple. Good people just mixed with a bad apple.
His family. Sad face- She said his mom was great to her but she really didn’t like her or trust her. She said his mom smelled like dirty diapers and the House was gross and she was too lazy to clean. Called her fat and jealous of raven taking josh away from her. She said his brother is a meth head that works illegal jobs. And that he tried to hit on her during thanksgiving. I don’t know if she said sister, or sister in law, but said something about her being a drug addicted wanna be nurse that has fake teeth and looks like skeletor from he-man. She had nothing nice to say about them. She said josh is better off without them in his life because they brought him down and made him feel less of a man. She stated they reminded her of the family in Texas chainsaw massacre (I’m a horror fan but never seen that film) so I have no clue on what she’s means about that. She says she loves Josh but she feels he isn’t ready for a committed relationship like she expected and that he has to grow up a lot and quit playing video games and work like a husband should.
That’s about all I remember because it was a long conversation after his mom blocked her. I feel like a really cruddy person. I bet they are truly good people.
No. 506935
>>506933Don't feel bad. All of this reflects badly on Gravy, not Josh's family. Plus we know she's full of shit, so I don't believe a word she says about them. They're probably nice, normal people.
This ungrateful bitch.
>works illegal jobsAt least he works.
>he has to grow up a lot and quit playing video games and work like a husband shouldI fucking can't.
No. 506936
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>>506933Gif related - This is how I feel about you right now, Ash.
No. 506950
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>>506933this fucking milk
No. 506953
>>506933Man, all the narc stuff about isolation was incredibly on point.
Ash, you must know you weren't dealing with a normal person. It's easy to feel like a fool in hindsight, but Raven designs herself to be able to pull in everyone.
And she's only lying about his family to justify her isolation tactics. The projecting is far more telling. We know nothing about his family no matter what Raven says. Kek about the clean house projecting and how she expects Josh to support her fatass. She knew she was getting a guy who just moved out of his mom's house on Raven's whim.
No. 506956
I think one major thing that Gravy refuses to accept about this site is that no one is being shit on for just their looks. It's always their online antics—generally being awful, idiotic, scammy, attention-whorey, and so on. We often wind up picking apart people's looks as a result, but that's not why they're here in the first place. But Raven continually refuses to confront the fact that she is fucking terrible and actually do something about it. For a lot of cows, it's not too late. They're young, they can still change. Sometimes they even have redeeming qualities (gasp), and we can acknowledge them. But Raven is so set in her ways at this point, so far gone, and with so few good qualities (does she even have any?), I just don't see it ever happening for her. She's hopeless.
No. 506959
>>506948You know she is sitting in a dark, stank trailer, staring with horrified fascination at the glow from her laptop, screencapping
everything.
I can’t believe how much time she spends here.
No. 506962
>>506957It’s no problem really. I’m sure plenty
Of people on here are actually just like me, whom have been caught in her crosshairs.
I pretty much keep to myself but I have a couple great people in my life and that’s all someone truly needs. It’s too bad Raven couldn’t have seen that as well. If your a good person, you get treated well and rightly so. I think it’s deaperation for her, to have so many people come to get and feel bad for all the things she claims to have been through. They flock to her. Lots of young people especially. I hope she doesn’t rub off on them. She really needs to stop, contemplate what she’s done and what’s wrong with her life, come to terms with it, get much needed help and reinvent herself. She’s bottoming out on all the lies and scams. It can only get her so far.
No. 506971
>>506933Oh man. The projection is strong with this one.
>Says mom is lazy, won't clean, house smells<Is Ravens exact situation now and in the past
>Says brother has a drug addiction< Is actively looking for oxys
>Says sister is an ugly wannabe< Raven is an ugly Emily Boo wannabe
>Says Logan cheated on her<Raven physically and emotionally cheats on him multiple times
I guess we can find the truth in what she says now: anything negative she says is absolutely true but only about herself.
No. 506973
>>506970Misogyny caused by extremely low selfesteem.
She hates every woman that is prettier than her (like, every female on the planet) at the same time she tries desperately to copy them in order to receive the same praise as them.
No. 506974
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No. 506976
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I found this a bit funny after re-reading
No. 506979
>>506976I was just thinking about this while I cleaned up the kitchen, haha.
I don't find any of her boyfriends attractive, looks- or personality-wise, but I am really puzzled as to how she gets them in the first place, and how she manages to keep them ensnared after they break up.
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>>506979Her amazing makeup skills?
She sent me that saying you all tear her apart for her looks.
No. 506991
>>506982Her make-up has a similar effect to Melisandre’s necklace.
I have to wonder when Josh will see her in all her fat heavy metal Filipino grandma looking glory. I bet she sleeps in 10 layers of make-up trying her best to keep up the facade.
It must be exhausting to be so utterly ugly and fake both on the outside and inside.
No. 506992
>>506990Castor oil, bb.
>>506920>I guess the guy quit messaging her afterward. She blamed it on LoganImagine sleeping with someone, and then finding out this
>>506982 is what they look like underneath all those layers of makeup. But yeah, it was probably Logan's fault.
No. 506996
>>506979Her first husband was 21 when he married her. He was prob the only 'normal' relationship she had. She said previously she caused the end of that marriage by provoking him to the point she almost got him jailed for 'kidnapping' Dorian when he went to pick him up at school.
Her second husband cheated on her all the time. He was the goffik king that married her on his lunchbreak from a hair saloon job. That was not an healthy relationship either.
Third husband… again… do we need to say anything about Ryan? A glance at him and you can tell he has a mental disability of sorts.
Fourth husband… a 16yo…next.
Josh thought he was getting a internet famous goth girlfriend. Never forget his face at the ticket revelation vid.
It should go without saying, but is not like those online exes like CJ, or real life boyfriends of her earlier life, like the guy who was into zoophilia are making any of us jealous.
>>506982Ah, the marvels of asian genetics.
No. 506997
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>>506990Get a stencil! Also Benefit eyebrow powder like this. It has two tones to make it look a little bit more natural.
(derailing) No. 507001
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I don't want to get on Raven's looks since I'm white with a half-filipino daughter who looks more asian than her dad (and is also named Diana so that triggers tf outta me when I see Raven's real name). Aging is natural, but I don't think Raven is doing herself any favors with how she treats her face. Just taking some of the hardware out improves her appearance imo.
No. 507011
>>506920Ooooooooh, the rest was pretty expected but this
>She had him at her house while Logan was at workis juicy as it gets.
No. 507017
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>>506996Her relationships with husbands Chris, Ryan, and Logan each lasted four to five years.
The story of her relationships on her blog ends with her leaving Andy and hooking up with David.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110528081201/http:/raven-official.webs.com:80/updatedinfoaboutme.htm[select all] as much of it is clear text.
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>>507017She picks up the story in this lengthy post from 2011 [spoiler for images of self-inflicted cutting and blood].
No. 507027
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Until very recently Raven's primary account was still listed as a crew member or mod of Goth Boys (I don't recall the exact term).
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1982135005149644&id=306000459429782Deactivating her primary account has deactivated her community accounts:
https://www.facebook.com/Gentle.Giant.Dojahttps://www.facebook.com/gorgeous.gothic.ghouls No. 507029
>>507026I don't think she will return to youtube so soon. She will lay low until people forget what she did, and when she does comes back, she will have a sob story, like Doja dying, being homeless etc so no one comes asking for the money.
As for facebook, she never left. She is just using a account we don't know of.
Also, she has lurked here everyday of her life. Her life has no purpose without us. She is screencapping the shit out of this thread.
No. 507035
>>507026There won’t be any wedding or marriage. We already thought the date goal post being moved was a big red flag but now with what Ash has shared its obvious Raven will have to work overtime to keep Josh from bailing. I have a feeling these money scams were part of trying to prove some value to Josh. If she used the fake miscarriage to guilt him, she will now use the dead mom for pity. But its a desperate ploy, you can’t guilt someone into staying
with you for long.
If Josh isn’t a total POS, and he might very well be, seeing Raven using her dead mom just to scam money should have him running for the hills within a month. I can’t imagine a bigger red flag than Raven’s latest stunt to confirm (if he had any doubts) she’s a nasty, lying, manipulative hag who has the morals of a rabid hyena.
I think Josh might be a total POS too, but even if he is, he won’t be sticking it out with Raven, it just may last a little longer. The $800 might have bought her an extra month or two.
I have a feeling Ash was one of the few ppl Raven had to talk to. Raven closing her SM and having next to no friends mean she has no one to rant and rave to besides Josh, so that could hasten the trailer eviction.
No. 507055
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>>506775Where did you get your intel? Their shack is gray and white.
Does Josh have scoliosis? His right ribcage has a pronounced hump.
No. 507076
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Your pedo/ephebo is showing Raven.
I don't believe her story about Josh becoming addicted to the meds, being violent for more and getting fired because of them for one second. That's Raven's excuse for asking how to get more for herself. Josh got fired because the accident was his fault and she got addicted to the meds, that's all.
No. 507094
>>507089No. They adopted Doja after they moved to the second mobile home which was confirmed to be in Saluda by Autumn's posts looking for transport for Doja.
Prior to that I speculated that they moved to Aiken when Josh posted on Facebook looking for a job there.
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she even liked the slim jim page from her fake profile!
No. 507118
>>506979>I am really puzzled as to how she gets them in the first place, and how she manages to keep them ensnared after they break up.I think after her first two husbands, whom we rarely hear about, she's learned to target more impressionable men. Those that are stupid, or very young, or in a shitty place in their life such as being longterm unemployed and living on their mum's couch. Narcs do this shit, so they can ensure that someone depends on them. I swear people like Raven can smell vulnerability in a person the way the rest of us can smell cheap plastic perfume on her.
I hope all these guys, as shitty people as they may or may not be in their on right, are able to break free of her, because her actions if they do are going to be hilarious and pathetic at the same time.
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>>506535She named her account for a shade of MAC lipstick.
No. 507124
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Is Josh's old account [pic related] still up?
>>507114My bad, I typed "Lilitu" which is the alternate name on the account.
No. 507137
>>507131You left out the that we have screen shots of her admitting to scamming people for money to meet online friends.
I don't buy her getting sick of thu h8urz and going offline for a while. Nope, Hagula wants to lay low until this newest issue blows over then she will be back, probably to scam money for Dojas funeral or who the fuck knows. (I can see it, "here Doja, drink this water, don't mind its sweet taste, that's not antifreeze")
If you anons want some sort of relief, unless she snags an ultra wealthy new parasitic host, her golden years will suck. I work long term care welfare cases like her get their room and board, they have to learn pain management because they give you the BAREST of minimum of pain killers and a monthly stipend of $30. (Depends on your state)
She only looks younger because she puts black makeup around all her wrinkles.
Drink up fellow anons, she's going to buy herself a month of breathing room while she lurks here. Her social media addiction will get the better of her and she will be back. Addicts always go back to their drug unless they are really ready, and she's not. Fresh milk for all.
No. 507184
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This screenshot belies her claim that Josh abused her meds and got caught by a random drug test.
No. 507188
>>507173That grossed me out so bad. What the fuck is that even about? She didn’t like that he looked at porn, so she made him call his other mommy to confess his sins? If I were Logan’s mother I’d have been like ‘Honey, I don’t give a fuck about the porn, do you see what I mean about this crazy bitch? Please get the fuck away from her.’
Raven is so stunted emotionally. She’s like a ten year old. The whole idea of getting your child bride in trouble with his mommy is so bizarre. She’s out of her mind.
No. 507203
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Light interjection but clock the whipped cream can next to the bed!
And with gravey you know it’s nothing kinky it’s purely her fat ass squirting it into her mouth whilst in bed.
ALSO I’m the anon who found Ryan’s profile ( I wasn’t hard sparky ) and the fact that I now know she seen it and it really annoyed her has made my fucking week!
Ps I’m also the uploader of the putting on makeup screen caps! Soz graven.
She acts like we go to dire lengths to suss out her circumstances, You shit post and dox yourself you fucking Behemoth
We’re not Cicada.
No. 507211
>>507205I don't think that anon was questioning Ash. Sounds like they are the op anon (?) and were simply stating there aren't any screenshots to curate for the next thread (which is likely coming up soon due to The Fall Of the Shack of Hagraven).
I think most everyone agrees that the evidence provided is enough to believe Ash about the rest of her interactions.
No. 507225
>>507202>>507205>>507206>>507208My statement reiterated what Ash herself said and was, in part, in response to
>>507137 who stated, "We have screen shots of her admitting to scamming people." I reread all of the screenshots in an attempt to verify this before I replied.
>>507199Ash, I did some digging into why messages are blocked and marked. While Facebook itself offers no explanation (it appears to be an all purpose error message), you may be able to retrieve the messages by downloading your Facebook Data.
https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=10202365217831296Would a WK be trying to assist Ash in retrieving the blocked messages?
No. 507228
>>507211OP anon generally changes from thread to thread, they’re not static so meh.
>>507225You sound autistic. It will be great if Ash can get the wiped texts off of FB, but she came through regardless. We aren’t CSI Lolcow ffs.
No. 507244
>>507242Please do, I literally had to go to bed early to muster up the energy and excitement to read this threads milky goodness
Bless you, Saint Ash
No. 507247
>>507242Fingers are crossed that you’ll be able to grab something, sometimes it works and sometimes not. I had the same situation and was able to get part of the texts I wanted as receipts back but not all, which makes no sense.
And good on you for avoiding the obvious shitstirring!
No. 507249
>>507242Thanks, Ash! If anyone else has advise for her, make sure to message her instead of putting it on this thread so Raven can't take counter measures. She reads the replies before Ash I'm sure.
>>507231Lay off, it's OP. I'm sure OP is just trying to sort out confirmed vs non-confirmed because Raven can't say Ash is just being a bitter liar with screen shots. The other stuff, Raven will lie about and cry about bullying. No one here thinks Ash is lying, but the only thing that will hold up with the most adamant of defenders are Raven's messages. Who cares about what's confirmed. We got a waterfall of milk here.
No. 507283
>>507209Have you forgotten about her "real life friend" Julie-Ann who is most likely the person who bought them groceries in their hour of need? Granted, she started out as an orbiter, but she sent presents to Raven in NZ.
And why is Raven screencapping the threads? They are not going anywhere. Is she so much of a masochist that she preserves them to ruminate on when she is offline?
>>507203That's a standard aerosol can. See it in better lighting
>>506449 and
>>>/pt/497481. I glimpsed the label in another video but have forgotten what it was (alas, it was not bug spray).
Agreed on her naiveté regarding having publicised her own deets. For example, her TradeMe account; she posted it when she was selling belongings to raise money for her trip here.
And she still thinks I write the transcripts manually!
No. 507291
Photos of the conversation we had April 2017
https://m.facebook.com/johnnie.hoolio.5The post is public so you can see everything
No. 507298
>>507291Thank you Ash for doing all of this!
I love how she just casually thows in that her and Logan were not together anymore, as if. She just didn't wanna admit she was cheating.
She's truly pathetic. Every guy is "the one" and she falls in "love" after one FB convo. Paaaathetic.
No. 507303
>>507298No problem. The first time she and I had a falling out is because she tried sending my bf nude photos of her. She has a hard on for guys with long hair especially goth guys.
I forgave her for that. I shouldnt have.
No. 507305
>>507193She has also either deleted or privated all her content in the old youtube channels described in the OP
Those are gone:
https://www.youtube.com/user/RavenStarbl00dhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TheSilentmourningThose have being privated:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRaven0us1https://www.youtube.com/c/RavensGastricSleeveJourneyAlso, some of the newest videos that are gone from her main chanel
Funeral day is now known
Help for Doja
New winners drawn
Congratulations winners!
Giveaway additions!!!
10k subscriber givaway
2017 year in review
Zaful and Dresslily site FAIL
Doctor Who gifts
How quickly things change
Crash update
Giveaway ideas?
Makeup removers and cleansers review
A small makeup review/Concentrated foundation and blur powder
My makeup collection
Update
We were in a car accident
Basically all the videos regard that giveaway that we called would never happen are gone and the clips about her e-begging for her moms funeral and Doja are gone (proof that she scams her fans), some clips of her hauling things are gone (proof that she takes the money and applies it into futile things), the videos about the car accident also gone (where she blamed it on Josh and got momma couch pissed).
This, farmers, is what I call damage control.
But Raven is TOTS offline, she never visits the farms. Top fucking kek.
No. 507306
>>507298That's also what she did when she announced her and Logan were breaking up, when it was immediately clear that she had been talking to Joah (e.g. cheating on Logan
at least emotionally) for months. Seems like it is her go-to rationaliztion. "We were broken up (even though we're living together and he's still supporting my lazy, broken-tailbone ass) so I can do whatever I want even though I am atill married." For that matter, she's STILL married, as far as I know.
No. 507309
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I actually have no idea which photo is first.
No. 507310
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2/5
No. 507311
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3/5
No. 507313
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4/5
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5/5
No. 507323
>>507303Wtf, girl!!! You forgave her? You don't forgive that. Were you practicing on becoming a Saint? Surely you're anointed as one after all these deets anyways. Man, you're nuts for forgiving her, but we've all been in your shoes.
And fucking kek at this guy just fucking her and leaving. "MY HEART IS BROKEN. HE WAS THE ONE. I WAS READY TO PACK MY BAGS." Uh, hear any of this before? SEE ANY OF THIS BEFORE?! This woman is a real fucking piece of work.
Anyways more deets on how she tried to seduce your bf? I mean obviously, he isn't going to leave you for that thing, but did she just offer? Who does this?! I know…Raven, but man, every time I think the milk has reached it's peak.
No. 507325
>>507321Oh good, thanks!
I really wonder what level of panic and rage Hagraven must be right now. She did it to herself and Ash probably wasn't even the only one she messaged on multiple accounts.
Were you at all suspicious as to why she had so many accounts throughout your friendship or only towards the end, Ash?
No. 507338
>>507305TheRaven0us1 has not had any videos for as long as I have been the OP since thread #5. After her last round of damage control, the videos on the other two channels were mostly of her pets and had already been uploaded to her main channel.
The associated Google+ accounts are still open.
All of her videos since the end of November are still mirrored on the other site. Can they be downloaded? I am not on a computer to do so.
No. 507339
>>507333men
not me. Usually I don't bother corrections without sage, but I thought this one mattered. puke*
>>507329You don't even have to worry about Logan having romance because it'll eventually happen. What's best is that he has his mom back. Seeing that picture with him and his grandma was great. The healing must be monumental because of the distance. I know there's bank account speculation, but seeing how Raven ran this huge scam, I'm sure Logan isn't giving her much. I mean his mother got reins back I'm guessing.
No. 507349
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>>507305I have a couple of those from that list if they're needed.
No. 507355
>>507351Do you have to ask anon? Pedophilia. Funny thing is that she falls in "love" with young men, but they're the least likely to take care of her which is what she wants. It would be good if she dated a guy in his 60s that owns a house and is financially secure…however that guy is probably way out of her league. Even if dumb, a 60 year old wouldn't be that naive.
>>507353She better be gone for a long, long time because lolcow is waiting. Justice for Logan and Dorian! Not really, but let's make sure to let this cow know the internet never forgets.
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No. 507359
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>>507357>all speculation and lies>so far caps prove everything we suspectedSure, Raven.
No. 507363
>>507331Yes, I was trying to remember where I had saw that same story (it was here
>>442478 and
>>442482) and was the guy Dorian told us she had cheated on Logan with prior to Josh (>>442462)
I also have a faint memory of Eddies girlfriend posting either here or on kiwifarms, but could not find it.
But it was all online. So… still waiting on the NZ guy milk.
No. 507373
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She's not on the internet, guyz
No. 507377
>>507374ha!
>>507373And why is she asking people to buy her MORE shit as of yesterday? Raven, use that $800+ you stole and buy it yourself.
No. 507387
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>>507384This is publicly available; I am not logged in to Facebook.
No. 507389
>>507368More Eddie stuff
>>449795>>449805 Found the girlfriend stuff
>>452937>>507385Eddie was american. Ash said she fucked a NZ guy named "Ricky".
Also, blast from past threads, top kek at her having all her exes facebook pages linked so she can stalk them
>>404704Top kek at
>>507384 having a picture with a Black Friday t-shirt on.
No. 507391
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>>507384Was Raven an active mod of the Goth Boys page when this and the previous pic were posted?
No. 507392
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>>507384The last and latest pic of him on Goth Boys.
No. 507396
>>507391>>507395Also, the actual mod of the page stated that while he is in charge of the Goth Boys page, Raven is still very much apart of it and he gets her approval to post things (
>>507027 )
No. 507402
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You know the easiest way to tell the diff between a normal person and a toxic psycho? Toxic people have the energy to fight you for hours, days, YEARS. They'll stay up to plot against you. They feel alive and awake when they manipulate. They are unwilling to let go of any slights against them. Slight PL but I've had two narcs I haven't contacted in ten years trying to talk to me now, trying to manipulate again. Shit's draining and enraging. People like Diana/Raven are broken beyond repair.
I feel so sorry for D and Poor Kid, because this bitch is harder to get rid of than herpes. She will never stop talking about them. She will never let go of them. Her hatred of NZ is their saving grace. You need to put as much fucking distance between yourself and pieces of shit like her.
Please stay strong, Ash. DO NOT CONTACT HER EVER AGAIN. I know you know that already but maybe you could use the echo from a friendly stranger. She can't change.
On a more positive note, I am loving this week's episode of Lolcow: Narc Hunter Edition so much. It's so damn vindicating.
It's over, Raven. You'll have to uproot and find a fresh batch of innocents to scam and exploit online. And I think not even your fellow pieces of shit are gonna hang around while you get cornholed by your own damning words and videos.
No. 507409
>>507407Another anon mentioned it before but gofundme won't give a damn and there's no real evidence that she didn't go. She also covered her ass by saying that the money would go on bills if she didn't go to the funeral.
On the bright side, she's going to have a hard time coming back after all of this milk.
No. 507410
>>507388Good point about scaring people away
. I appreciate where you're coming from. Maybe just a free wix site or something.
>>507397And also good point. I'm a dumb.
No. 507425
>>507411This. And it would really be up to the donors to file complaints since they are the victims of said fraud.
In addition to the report page
https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604694-Reporting-a-GoFundMeGoFundMe has a guarantee
https://pages.gofundme.com/guarantee-faq No. 507433
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I’m sorry guys. I was hoping it would work but it shows nothing she says. She covered her behind really well reporting the conversation. I really wanted everyone to see this proof
No. 507435
>>507433The answer on the page linked to
>>507225 says that it won't work if you are no longer friends.
No. 507440
>>507433>>507435Other sites and Facebook community help pages say that messages are blocked when the other user has deactivated or deleted their account or if their account has been suspended. I am still unable to find an official answer from Facebook itself.
She didn't report the conversation. The error message you received is the error message for all situations resulting in messages being blocked. Why Facebook uses that error message has been mystifying and confusing users for years.
No. 507451
>>507446The other anon used archive.org (see the OP).
Have you or anyone else downloaded the mirrored videos?
No. 507460
>>507454The ones on bitchute.
Does streamable respond to copyright takedowns?
No. 507465
>>507407Any reporting should be your own decision and these threads can't be used to organise it, see /rules.
If you personally donated to a GFM, then reporting your concerns with it is effective in my experience. But they run on the back of scams so they aren't going to respond to outsider reports really.
No. 507469
>>507460I can't find any info about that. It's easy to use at any rate, let me post some there and also archive them.
I have some of the bitchute vids for sure, not all.
No. 507475
>>507465Example - We were in a car accident:
https://streamable.com/9kvn3. Cute but only works for vids under 10 minutes though. Not the ideal solution.
No. 507476
>>507465It's not even worth it. It's less than what a minimum wage job brings in a month or a part time job brings in. I mean the fatass paid a little bit of rent while Josh pays video games and beats her up for pills.
Anyways, Ash, no worried about the conversations. The few things that were verified with screen caps were enough and your spilled milk is a gold mine. I believe you and anons suspicions are more than confirmed.
To be one of the multiple flies on Raven's trailer's walls. I wonder if she can even rant to Josh about this stuff because him white knighting her or getting him curious about what's said would force him to read about her DOCUMENTED claims about pills and her fucking men around the time she met/started talking to Josh. Plus, he would see the shit she said about his family. I mean, she must have complained about his family in some way to isolate him. Maybe about how his mother treats him, etc. You know Josh hasn't tried to reach out to his mom for a reason. Raven is fucked and it's beautiful.
Anything else you can remember, Ash? I'm sure you spilled the best stuff, but I've gotten greedy. You've just gotten better with each info drop.
No. 507511
>>507506Here, I copy pasta'd it…
From Ash:
Not so much anything juicy that I can remember. It’s been such a long time with so much ranting. It’s hard to wrap my head around it. She did tell me cj messaged her last year saying he was sorry and the reason he did what he did was because he thinks he liked men. She has had a few abortions during her marriage with Ryan because he didn’t want children and she thinks that is why she kept having miscarriages. She blames him for that. Her rape claims were all false. She allowed sex and felt dirty afterwards and one guy she liked had a girlfriend so she claimed rape. And that is how she ended up with a bad reputation in her hometown. She’s very racist and hates most other ethnicities because she wants to be white. She tried to date guys off model mayhem while she was with Ryan. I’m
Not sure if that panned out. She wasn’t originally supposed to be with Josh. There was another older guy in Texas she was going to move in with but he had a 17 year old daughter and she said she didn’t want to compete with that She doesn’t want dogs but said Josh gets depressed and it rubs off on her. Oh! I forgot. His ex (I forget her name), she said she made a fake account of Josh saying he never loved her and that he cheated on her with Raven and said he hated her kid. And that she did that so she and josh would hate each other enough to never speak again. She said a lot of bad things to her. And josh doesn’t know about that. She did tell me that she knew Josh lied about owning his own home and she said he was a mommas boy that wouldn’t get out and get a job so she used her sm following to call him out so he would get a job and a home for her.
That’s all really. Nothing too too bad.
No. 507528
>>507523She posted it by accident and we grabbed it.
It is on this playlist
https://archive.org/details/RavenJoshuaIt's an hour long video of Josh being on the phone with Claudia, screaming, throwing a fit, telling "I did not cheat on you Claudia", and you could her she was in tears.
Raven was casually recording everything (she was still on NZ at that time, they were skyping) while she played around in her facebook.
She doxxed herself a lot in that video, she clearly had no intention on publishing it.
No. 507532
>>507515This is even better than the first one! Fuck she cheated on Josh too!!! No wonder she hates sluts and whores, the competition must be unbearable.
If only Josh could believe what this woman did to him. But I'm sure living with her and being with her during this scam, he should know enough. I wonder if he's full blown Stockholm syndrome? And another hilarious example of Raven calling someone fat when she's this huge whale. Poor Claudia. She's so pretty and it must have been devastating thinking Josh said he hated her kid. Raven goes to the jugular and attacks children while crying about bullies. I love to hate this cow.
No. 507541
>>507531Yeah. We thought someone from the farms had tipped Claudia, but it was all Ravens doing.
Now I'm thinking if it wasn't really her who posted that video to her moms memorial so she could be overdramatic about it and throw a smoke screen.
>>507530It was already bad when we thought she had posted a private conversation between Josh and his ex.
We hated Josh for how he treated Claudia on that vid.
But knowing that Raven said so much crap to her to make her flip, and make her sound crazy paranoid, and did it without telling Josh, lying to both of them.
I can't.
No. 507555
>>507551When Josh and Raven started talking, he still had pictures with Claudia and her kid on his facebook.
That was prob what Raven needed.
No. 507568
>>507562She does not want a boyfriend.
She wants a cuck slave that will do and say as she pleases and will work to provide plushies, slimjims and tacos for her sorry fatass to be laying down sperging on the internet.
No. 507576
>>507571In my opinion. I am thinking she may have made things public about him so you all COULD go and find out if he was lying about a house or not. I don’t know. But this is just things she’s told me. A lot of the time I take what she says with a grain of salt and listen to her. And it’s omay to think I could be lying. You all don’t know me. Your just being cautious and I can understand that.
I’m hesitant to talk about it anymore if I find anything else or remember something. I don’t want to have anyone thinking I’m making things up or causing problems. I’m not into that. Sorry if you think that is the case here.
No. 507595
>>507576>>507580Yeah. Not that Ash is lying, but prob Raven was lying to her.
Raven is known for feeding people false info and lying to her teeth to gain sympathy. I, for instance, don't believe Josh was popping her pills and assaulted her for more. I think she was addicted to it, and wanted a excuse so she could ask you for it. One that you would me sympathetic for.
No. 507601
>>507598I don't think Ryan gives a flying fuck for her pregnancies. He does not strike me as the dad type.
I really think the spiel with him were blowjobs and now nudes.
Josh, on the other hand, may fall for the 'you killed my babies' guilt trip. Southern families and all.
No. 507604
>>507532Didn't she call her a n
**r too? She's accused at least two ex's of being racist. Talk about projection.
No. 507630
>>507605The hilarious part is right now she is ranting and raving about not being able to trust anyone and how everyone turns on poor Raven. She has no friends and all her family members hate her but never for a second will she think the problem lies with her, it’s everyone else who has problems and is awful. She’s an evil scumbag but also a professional victim.
She puts all her energies into manipulating dumb dudes. It’s a good thing she’s so dumb and shallow she ended up with Josh. If she had any sense she’d try to nail down an older sugar daddy, but ofc sugar daddies want cute, younger girls not suicide girl rejects well past their prime and 70 lbs overweight. Josh was just stupid and vain enough to finally fell into her “get back to USA” trap.
No. 507665
>>507637Josh went along with the funeral trip scam, watching her beg for money for a trip knowing damn well they weren’t going anywhere. He’s right there in one of videos
where she’s blathering on about it. He’s also watched her hoard and get rid of pets. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but he’s shown himself to be a redneck scumbag. I mean the first big red flag was that he found Raven an human being he wanted to date, but his complicity in her BS makes him typical white trash, not a country boy.
He’s certainly not the kind of evil narcissistic garbage person that Raven is, but he’s a trashy, dumb, lazy redneck who moved in with a lowly grifter just because she thought he was so purdy
I’m glad, it would suck if Raven was using a decent guy but it’s hilarious she’s with a shiftless, broke, chainsmoking redneck with the IQ of warm oatmeal who’s main hobby is video games
No. 507673
>>507668I don't know if this makes sense but… Some people just don't understand the internet. I wouldn't be surprised if Josh was just nodding his head to her bullshit while he didn't even know what she was talking about. I know a lot of people who don't even understand how twitter works (and they're 20, not 40) so I can only imagine someone like that being told about lolcow haha.
As we can see (for the millionth time) Raven is extremely manipulating. I think Josh is a POS too but then again I wouldn't be surprised if Raven was actually telling him they're going to the funeral until the last second when her taibone magically started hurting more than even and she asked Josh to stay so he did. I do think he's dumb and not hard to manipulate, especially by someone who has yeeears of experience under her belt.
No. 507712
>>507704She might have packed some Slim Jim's, but only to tide her over on their drive to Walmart to spend that sweet sweet GFM cash.
I think what bothers me most (a bold statement) is her capitalizing off of child abuse. She posted tons of videos REEEing and crying about what monsters we were for making fun of her miscarriages. First of all, I'm convinced she lied about the miscarriages with Child Bride and that she stole pictures of from the internet and used them as "proof". Second of all, weens aside, I've never seen anons or Kiwis stoop that low. And yet here we find out that SHE is in fact the one harassing others about their actual deceased child and trolling Josh's ex about hers. And probably countless others.
Not to mention that She knew she couldn't get pregnant during the Ryan era, and then years later blamed another faked miscarriage on her own son because he washed the dishes.
She really does project 100% of everything that comes out of her fat mouth. I used to think she was a piece of shit, but now my eyes have been opened to what a fucking monster she really is.
I said it once, and I'mma say it again. Attention Raven: You. Are. Nasty. And. You. Need. Jesus. And please, screen shot this you hag. Maybe it will start to sink in while you're stewing over it.
No. 507737
>>507712Wait did I skip this part or was it too long again…
She blamed her son for a miscarriage because he did the dishes?! Whaa?
No. 507741
>>507737Yeah she reckoned when dorian did the dishes he left draino on the plates and didn't rinse them or some shit and then she 'supposedly' had a miscarriage a week later after eating off the plates.
1-probably a lie
And 2-who can't tell if a plate is rinsed properly? Get off your fat ass and do your own dishes if they aren't up to your standard you ugly cow.
No. 507752
>>507750Oh OK gotcha, although it's still dumb. It's not a teenager's responsibility to know everything about everything. This is where a responsible parent (e.g. not Raven) steps up to the plate and says "Wait a sec, we should probably redo those because I forgot about the chemicals we used in the sink.
But honestly, at this point I don't think she had a miscarriage anyway; it was just likely a ploy to control and manipulate Logan and Dorian and pit them against each other.
No. 507755
>>507752Hell no she didn't have a miscarriage and shame on her for even using a nasty excuse like that. A lot of women have issues with fertility so for her to use that line for the sake of a lie is disgusting.
On top of that, others in the household would have gotten sick as well and I doubt a little residue is enough to cause a miscarriage.
No. 507756
>>507541Don't let Josh off so easily. He expressed the desire to physically harm Claudia.
>>507714>>507716Raven had an ectopic pregnancy with Logan, so she has only one tube left. She documented her stay in the hospital with photos and video.
>>507737>>507741In her most recent retelling of the story she says that she blamed him at the time because she was so upset. But she stops short of apologising for blaming him.
>>>/pt/467171
>As far as the whole Dorian causing me a miscarriage thing. Way back when I first lost the twins. I've also explained that. I didn't say a hundred percent he did. But, you know, when you go through a loss you always question, you look for answers wherever you can. It's part of the grieving process to try to put an answer to why. How did this happen to me. You try to just look for something in your world that makes sense. And I was reading online different things that could cause it, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah. Wondering if I did something wrong, wondering what the fuck could have happened, cuz I felt so pregnant. Everything was going along swimmingly, and then suddenly they were gone. And it mentioned drain cleaner, poisons, things like that. Well, conveniently right before I lost the babies we had had a stopped up drain. We filled the sink full of drain cleaner, and next thing was Dorian's turn to do dishes. I asked Dorian, did you scrub the sink before you did dishes, did you clean the sink at all? He said, no, he did not. So every dish we were eating off of pretty much was covered in drain cleaner. He didn't even rinse it down. Come a couple days, a week later, whatever, my babies are dead. In my grieving mind it made sense. If you can't understand that, then you're a fucking idiot. End of story as far as that goes as well. No. 507763
>>507756Thanks for clarifying anon. So we can confirm that her last real pregnancy was an ectopic with Logan and that her tubes were singed. Making it extremely unlikely if not impossible for her to get pregnant again?
Now to go back and see how many pregnancies shes fake since. Two it seems: The Draino and the car accident pregnancies. Am I missing any?
No. 507772
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>>507763She found out she was pregnant in September 2012 right before their commitment ceremony.
https://youtu.be/hBbm5PlsaqQ No. 507783
>>507772Funny she found out she was pregnant “right before the commitment ceremony” guess she thought a fake pregnancy would seal the deal and double the attention for her. She could rub her belly at the ceremony and pretend to be a young, fertile bride and try to distract from the whole mother of a teenager marrying a teenager thing.
Sad she lied to Logan and he believed all this shit. She’s such a vile ugly cunt. Thank god Dorian is the only child that will have to bear the burden of her as a “mother” and that he’s as far away from her as possible
No. 507801
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>>507787She says that the doctors told her that she has "scarring on her uterine wall which is what has been giving me my miscarriages" and that her remaining left tube "is really, really bad and most likely not functional…With one tube not functional and scarring on my uterus I can't have IVF, in vitro, I can't try for a baby. Pretty much, I'm done. Sixteen years of trying, and all I wanted was to be a mom again. And now that dream is gone."
>>507788She did not say that they removed her remaining tube.
No. 507802
>>507788God her web of lies is so dense it’s mind boggling.
She might of actually had a ectopic only because I can’t imagine she would lie about something that could prevent her from faking future pregnancies..or she just didn’t think it through when she was milking the drama. She had to keep upping the drama with each pregnancy ploy twins, ectopic, sterility, etc..
Makes her lies to Josh about him causing a miscarriage extra hilarious.
If there was ever a case for forced sterilization it’s Raven.
No. 507804
>>507774Dorian is 23 now. His birthday is in January, and he is 8 months older than Logan.
>>507777Logan was 16 when they met in February 2012.
No. 507808
She posted photos of the embryonic remains on her wedding website iirc. They might be capped in a previous thread.
>>>/pt/467171
>As far as keeping my dead babies in a jar, I was given my babies after my surgeries, my DNC and my ectopic surgery. The doctors did that. They said they always offer the tissue or the baby back to the parents so that you can properly bury your baby. What the fuck is so wrong with that? I got little wax encased blocks with my babies' remains in it to bury. Logan and I had no home of our own. We had nowhere special that we knew our babies would be safe, so therefore we were told just to leave them in the freezer until we knew what to do with them. We had no fucking idea. I'm damn sure you're not gonna throw my babies away. Whether they were alive for long or not, they were still alive, they were in me, they were growing, they were something that could have been. They were children we could have had together. And it was very hard on us to lose those babies for whatever reason. And when we were given their remains, of course we're gonna keep them. We're not gonna just say, oh, this is just the remains of our babies. Pfft, trash. Who the fuck does that? So we were given these two, and they were in a brown bag, sealed in wax, in hospital sterile containers, little little things. And they were left in the freezer until came a time when we had somewhere to bury them. End of story. I don't keep babies in jars, and it's nothing sick or disgusting to be ashamed of. They were my babies for however long they were in my body. And the doctors in New Zealand offer you your returned tissue so that you can bury your babies. No. 507815
>>507808Remember this is from a person who has claimed to have multiple abortions. Holy twins vs. fetal abortion trash? What a dumb shit. I'm not advocating pro-life vs. pro-choice, etc., but the level of convenience for this whore is mind numbing.
>>507813You know, she's got no creativity. Josh felt so bad about my miscarriage and accident! He waited on me hand and foot. Logan did this and that. Imagine being a man in her life and her expecting that treat day in and day out. She often would brag about how Josh would hug her and say he loved her every day and that's what she needs. I wonder if the expiration date on that one will be cycled through quicker. He has half the resources Logan did and is now cut off from his only safety net, his family. I wonder if Josh found out and believed what Raven said about his family and said TO Claudia if he'd stay. Hmmmm. Mysteries of life.
No. 507818
>>507815>>Holy twins<<The period that was more than a period
*I apologize for this terrible joke to everyone but the Hag
I wonder if she will continue faking pregnancies into her 50s, 60s, and 70s kek.
No. 507838
>>507832Just in case, anon. I'm not too savvy when it comes to data retrieval.
So do anons believe that Raven's disappearance is because to avoid questions about her mom's funeral and to keep the cash or because of Ash's revelations?
No. 507839
>>507808Actually doctors don’t give you miscarriage remains so you can “bury it”, that’s just a lie, they only do that with stillbirths (babies past 20 weeks) Medical anon there are usually three routes for when no heartbeat on ultrasound, go home an let it occur naturally, two be given a drug to miscarry at home and down the toilet it goes. The other is a DNC and no one offers “remains” from a dnc. At even 12 weeks you are dealing with something the size of a pea, it’s not some tiny little baby you can see with the naked eye it’s a bunch of expelled tissue. Miscarriages are sad but no one offers to bury them, they are usually referred to as “products of conception” and get sent to pathology or down the drain. Stillbirths are very different and many doctors will offer to let you hold the baby/give you the remains for burial if you want them.
Could you ask a doctor for what’s sucked out during a DNC? I’ve never seen it happen but I guess you could, but as others have said it’s basically just a heavy period.
It’s these lies and her elaborate theater around these “losses” that convince me it’s all just bullshit. She doesn’t act like a woman grieving miscarriages she acts like a woman performing elaborate grotesque theater for online attention and manipulation of partners.
I’m kind of wonder if she didnt put a period in a jar after the car accident so she could yank it off the shelf if Josh shows some backbone. I also wish we could ask her where these precious jar babies from NZ are now. She was so dedicated to the grief theater, but the second she decided she was done with Logan I bet they went in the trash. They were only useful to elicit pity and manipulate Logan with, tho the idea of her unpacking them in her trailer along with her plushies is pretty funny.
No. 507841
>>507838Without a doubt, that’s exactly what she has done and had planned all along, she never had any intention of going to El Paso
Ash spilling tea was just an extra bonus but Raven has already pulled her disappearing act with the dead mother scam money before Ash did anything.
No. 507894
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>>507773Raven’s purple ass seventies romance novel prose lol.
I hope that Dorian, Logan, LG, hell, even Josh, his family, and Claudia can maybe see this someday and know that there was nothing they could have done differently or better about this pig.
Raven is a shitty garbage creature and you all got sucked up into her orbit. Victims of a seasoned, insane narc who needs a fuckton of supply. I genuinely feel for everyone this bitch has thrown her shit at. Ash, too. What a fucking horror show she is.
No. 507898
>>507838At first, she ducked out because of her mom and fantasies of all the Slim Jim’s she could eat while reading the thread and laughing at all the dumbfucks.
Now she’s hiding out because she’s scared. She doesn’t have a clue how to spin this to put her in a less shitty light. The catfishing alone is difficult to explain away, and that’s one of the lesser foul things she’s done to people.
How many times has Raven self posted in here? Creepy just to think about it. She’s definitely become one of the very worst cows I follow.
No. 507902
Did anyone download the "My life so far" video published April 2, 2016? It was posted on one of the channels she has deleted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf2z1pgC00MI briefly discussed it in
>>>/pt/501975 but regretfully did not download the transcript.
No. 507903
>>507870>>507895Google reverse image search doesn't even return ultrasound images.
Her name is not on the image she posted.
No. 507904
>>507887She necroed the thread herself because she wasn’t getting enough attention.
How many times has she done the same thing in here? Hundreds, I’ll bet.
No. 507955
>>507944Has she pretended to be you before?
I almost wish the mods would give you a trip because it would be so easy for Raven to come in here and start stirring shit.
No. 507976
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The list of purchased items was empty when I checked it last week.
No. 507982
>>507782Given the fact that Raven has had multiple "miscarriages," the tactful thing is to wait until after the first trimester to announce a pregnancy. However, that would mean Raven can't be a pretty pregnant princess for extra online attention!
And don't you usually get ONE scan in the first trimester (if that)? A doppler is used to detect a heartbeat and then there's blood tests for whatever levels and to make surethat the woman isn't Rh-negative or showing signsof gestational diabetes. So her stories on ultrasounds seems pretty sus.
>>507839The size of a pea? At 12 weeks? Not to blogpost, but that isn't right. I had two abortions cuz i r teh dumb and when waiting for the pill for the medical abortion, I was looking at my file and it could just be the place I went to, but the remains from the first one went into a mass grave. I think a lot of hospitals have a thing with cemeteries where remains from miscarriages go to a mass grave. Some states have it so the parent has to sign over fetal remains to the hospital for final disposition. But you can't take a miscarried fetus home since that's still considered y'know, still human remains/medical waste.
No. 507984
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I totally forgot about this.
No. 507997
>>507994Just once. It’s in the screenshots. Basically saying she doesn’t copy her looks but everyone here thinks she does.
I think she does. After she showed me Emily, I checked her YouTube. Raven always did the more classic goth with latex clothing and long black hair. She changed her look drastically. She did resemble Emily quite a bit on the hair and clothing style.
No. 507999
>>507995Ohh, wait, so that account was Raven also? I knew ashesanddust was, but thought that second one was actually you there to clear things up.
So… does that mean that RAVEN herself posted that she made Dorian take close up photos of her vagina?
No. 508005
>>507992>>507995The CinderHella account was also Raven?
https://kiwifarms.net/members/cinderhella.6663/https://kiwifarms.net/search/1678327/The ashesanddust account was created a month after the thread started, but she did not use it until May 2015. Does this mean she had plotted to impersonate you 7 months in advance?
https://kiwifarms.net/members/ashesanddust.3954/ No. 508010
>>507912>>507914The Ally saga ruled. So sad that I didn't save any of those vids, because those vids very milky and shit went south very fast. User I Just Want to See Attachments on KF supposedly has the Ally videos on a hard drive. That was good milk.
Ally was a little shit to Raven the entire time. It was so damn satisfying to watch Raven try and manipulate Ally into behaving the way she wanted to on videos but Ally acted like a teen and was very loud and childish.
I still for the life of me can't understand the logic behind taking in a teenage girl, when Raven supposedly hates "the competition" and she would have raged the entire time the girl was there because Logan would talk to her and maybe laugh with her. The disrespectful little cow! She probably did it for the sympathy points, like with Doja. See? I'm an adoptive mom!
Not only was a super shitty thing to pull on a 16yo girl who had no place to stay, but it was also incredibly stupid on Diana's part to underestimate how difficult it is to raise children. Almost as if, dare I say it, she has no experience in raising children.
Ally was "messy and disrespectful" and even if that was true, and it was unbearable, a good person would still power through it instead of kicking her out, because that's what a good person who genuinely wants to help does. They act responsibly, they compromise, they try and work with what they have. Not that Gravy has an ounce of any of those qualities.
If y'all can stomach the atrocious grammar, this is what Ally's fiance shared on KF about Raven faking her death and the whole Ally drama:
>>Righteo, Hi everyone i am the infamous Rob (Allys fiance').I plan to tell the story of my history with Miss Raven Sparks.
I met her many moons ago long before she was married to logan.
I met her through logan and my at the time partner knowing each other.
Raven befrieneded both my partner at the time and and myself.
Only she only ever messaged when she needed something like at the time a smoke when her and logan still smoked.
I went to their house a few times and watched Dorian be treated as basically a house elf, the slave not only to Raven but to his friend and to be step daddy Logan.
He was expected to take orders from someone younger than himself.
Anyway we all drifted apart me and my partner at the time split and that was that until……
You may all remember the rants and raves she had about the person who had a nut at her about messaging at ungodly hours of the morning well that person is my ex the mother of my son.
ALthough the relationship between my ex and i is volitile to say the least i still defended her and had one of the many rant and rave videos removed.
Then i didnt hear anything from her for a long time until i hear about her apparent death on Facebook.
I messaged DOrian and logan with my condolences but their responses seemed off so i did a bit of digging and eventually they admitted that the whole thing was a hoax.
I assured them i would keep it quiet and infact helped them keep up the roose of Raven being dead.
During this time Ally and i had gotten alot closer and started a relationship.
Then when Ally ended up homeless i asked Raven if ally could stay there and explained the situation she was fine with it.
As for her saying i am angry at them for 'kicking me out' when i asked Raven if Ally could stay i amde sure to point out that on the days i dont have my son i would be there also she had no issue with this.
In the beginning Ally with no income was expect to provide her own food etc so i did this for her i also gave Raven and Logan money towards power.
They then decided i was no longer welcome and the 'lets control ally' game began.
It started by saying when and where she could and couldnt go (remember at this stage she was just a boarder) then came the offer of a family.
Them knowing full well that it was the one thing ally had always wanted.
Ally had a few issues along the way of this but never wanted to give up as she felt it was her one and only last chance at a family.
And because she didnt feel comfortable she wouldnt mention them to Raven or Logan.
SO instead of seeing my fiance upset and feeling trapped i would go to Raven only to be heavily abused and attacked myself.
Then we get to recent events.
I was sent a message from a 'Cristopher Holbrook' (account is now gone) pointing out about Ravens 'asking for help status'
Ally was here at the time so i mentioned it to her and she was deeply hurt that Raven had gone behind her back and said some pretty nasty lies about her.
And so it began.
The rest im sure you have seen or heard by now if you watch her videos and Allys.
But Raven has now decided to direct her attacks upon me and my family.
So far she has rung my parents and made up lies which they saw straight through.
So that didnt work ….hmmmmm….. what next???
SHe has now filed complaints against me about my son for abuse.
She has never seen or heard me around my son so she would have no idea however it is still lies anyone that knows me and my family and how i parent will be able to tell you that including a Family Court Psychologist.
She has also broken a few laws along the way that are being investigated that i cannot mention due to legal bindings.
Now as you are probably all aware i have stayted right out of this since ally was kicked out of that house.
But now Raven has crossed a line i felt i had to say something.
I know many of Ravens victims and im sure a few of them will be surprised im commenting on here.
Also i only turned 26 on june 2nd.
Ally and i did start dating 2 days before her 16th birthday however we were not sexually intimate untill around christmas time.
The police have already investigated this and closed they case with no charges being laid.
Raven you gave Ally her final warning to collect her gear or you will post the video however now that the police have contacted you and told you they are collecting it tomorrow you still upload the video AFTER the police told you to stop.
So Raven here is your last warning from me LEAVE ME ALLY AND MY FAMILY THE HELL ALONE!!!!!
No. 508012
>>508005Whoa. No it wasn’t me. She said it was another girl we were both friends with whom I no longer speak to. 7 whole months. Crazy
She knew I didn’t go on the sites. So it’s possible she figured she was in the clear. fortunately I found out and quit talking to her the second time. But I forgave her again. She said ashes and dust was her. But the other one was someone we both know. Her reasoning was that it was an easy way for her to spy without someone knowing it was her. She apologized and I let it go.
No. 508014
>>507984if CinderHella is Raven, then Raven is the origin of that made up 'fact' that she had Dorian take pictures of her vag. Dorian told us himself with LG that this never happened.
Raven is a sick fuck.
No. 508021
>>507982Depends on the country how they dispose of products of conception or fetal tissue. A 12 week fetus is about 2 inches, 8 weeks is an inch. They used to have to wait until 8 weeks to preform DNC abortions because they couldn’t be sure it was removed because they were dealing with something so small.
Ultrasounds usually aren’t done in the first trimester because such little detail can be seen, usually only IVF and high risk women get ultrasounds before 12 weeks.
A heartbeat can usually be detected by 7 weeks and a gestational sac seen, sometimes a fetal pole.
No matter what there is nothing visible to the naked eye after a DNC or miscarriage before 12 weeks but a bunch of bloody tissue. At least where I’m at “burial” is only offered to women who experience stillbirths. If doctors felt the same about miscarriages they wouldn’t give cynotec to women to cause a miscarriage at home on the toilet, it would be far too traumatic.
We tell women that Miscarriages during the 1st trimester are very similar to an extremely heavy period plus extra terrible cramps. I’ve never heard of a woman “saving tissue” from a miscarriage unless she suffers from RPL (recurrent pregnancy loss) and is directed to by her doctor to have the tissue tested for genetic issues.
I’ve worked at OBGYN and RE offices for years and Raven was the first person I ever heard of “saving” a miscarriage or asking for the tissue from a DNC to take home.
Of course I was in a big American city, things might be different in other places
No. 508027
>>508019catching the same vibe, not going to say why i think it but yeah, watch the replies, i don't think some of these are ash.
ash, you should get to the discord, ask someone to verify you and then ask if you can use a tripcode only for answering questions. there's some fuckery going on.
No. 508034
>>508027Not Ash but, interesting. I think I see what you mean
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No. 508048
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>>508012I was about to ask you about the video "you" said that you had made to prove that she had been online.
Why would she direct people to your blog?
No. 508052
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>>508048CinderHella's last post.
No. 508080
>>508069Sounds like a good idea. You can always just answer a bunch of questions in one post and add a picture of your fb wall or do a timestamp or whatever.
That would prove it's you and not Raven fucking around. Thanks for all your help!
No. 508093
>>508019>>508027I wish we had a "cow among us" sound like we do with Ashley the Skeletor. just seeing "rattle rattle" made me kek every time. What sound should Gravybones get?
flap flap?
No. 508110
>>508100Be careful with that FB message ash. Sounds like the Hagraven attempting to impersonate a human.
Also, good on you. She is clearly trying to misslead you down to her level. Thank you for protecting your friends.
Kek at Gravy calling herself Gravy. I was hoping that named bothered the shit out of her. Glad to see it does! PS go fuck yourself Gravy!
No. 508112
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>>508100Ash verified by facebook post.
I don't even know if that is possible. Can a farmhand tag or name all the posts that came from that IP? Since we know that one belongs to Ash herself?
No. 508126
>>508122No because I don't know Raven. I just read her thread.
I've already gotten ahold of her and my identity has been verified. I understand worrying about sock puppets though.
No. 508129
>>508125Going on Raven’s terrible stolen ultrasound photos I doubt her shooping abilities, but I could totally see Raven knocking on a trailer down the road and asking them to hold this sign and let her snap a photo for this hilarious online prank.
maybe a quick YouTube or Facebook live thing would be an easier solution
No. 508132
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I'm laughing so hard at the thought of Raven sitting and screaming at the screen for the last few days while playing facebook games on her sock accounts and reading here. Of course with her trusty slim jims.
No. 508134
>>508132fuck. actual lol
hahahahahahaha
I thought the saggy tit cake should be next thread's op but this one is just as good.
No. 508138
Good intution, Ash. You're a good person.
>>508132MORE ART AND EDITS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
No. 508140
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>>508093>>508109Flap flap it seems we've summoned the Hag
No. 508161
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>>508138Raven, come play with us. We have farmville trades and candy crush lives for you.
No. 508169
>>507995>>508083She / CinderHella also imitated your tendency to use short and sometimes incomplete sentences, to start sentences with "So" and "And", and to conclude paragraphs with a one- or two-word sentence for emphasis.
In the "Ugh" video while she was chatting with Claudia from Logan's account, she bragged to Josh that she pretended to be Logan all the time messaging his mom, and his mom never knew.
How long has she been honing her talent? I envision her as a child forging school notes from both her parents and teachers.
No. 508174
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This bitch.
No. 508204
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>>507772She named her miscarried twins Ciel and Sebastian after "Black Butler" and her ectopic zygote Miracle.
She then had these plaques made which is even more ridiculous.
I tried to find the pics of their waxed remains, but anons only posted links to Logan's Facebook, and the gallery pages and images from her wedding website are not archived. Apparently she posted the pictures on the Christchurch Brides group, too.
No. 508213
>>508204okay what in the hell?
"unborn
awaken in the night
hearing screams that don't exist
my arms are aching to hold you
thinking of all that i've missed
your name is a moan
drifting softly from my lips
i feel my heart breaking
as i dream of your kiss
is this something
that was never meant to be?
why, oh why,
were you taken away from me?
there is nothing quite like
all the love that i will miss,
in the arms of a child that
does not exist…"
that poem doesn't sound like it was written for an unborn baby, what the fuck! that's like a chick writing to her lover or some shit! she is NASTY holy fuck
No. 508215
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>>506836>>506870>>506876
>she is now going by her original name from the US which is Diana PerezShe legally changed her name to Raven Diana Sparks while she was in New Zealand [pic related]. When she moved back to the US she talked about the complications her name change presented in getting a revised Social Security Card and state ID (her US passport bore her previous name, presumably Diana Dawn Sparks as her surname reverted to Sparks from Perez after her divorce
>>>/pt/12471).
Legally changing her name to Diana Perez in South Carolina would have required a police background check, an appearance before a judge, a sworn affidavit, and several related fees.
https://statelaws.findlaw.com/south-carolina-law/how-to-change-your-name-in-south-carolina.htmlhttp://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t15c049.php No. 508229
>>508215Your name doesn’t revert after a divorce, you have to legally change it all over again back to your maiden name.
Whatever name changes she made in NZ wouldn’t do her any good unless she had them legally changed on her passport. The US federal govt doesn’t care what paperwork you file in other countries about the name you use there, what’s on your US passport is what you name is as far as the USA is concerned. Not surprising she never bothered to change her name in the country where she was actually a citizen.
I have no doubt her laziness and multiple name changes have made life and getting residency/ DL in SC an epic pain in the ass. That’s what sloppy paperwork gets ya.
No. 508232
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>>508204Proudly displayed in their home as a reminder to everyone of her victimhood.
No. 508245
>>508232The poem is just more proof that all the miscarriage shit is just pure awful, narc theater.
What’s bizarre is that the two bottom tiles have been tacked on to the creepy poem tile. The poem tile has small baby foot prints with dates going back to 2001. So she’s claiming her poison womb has had five victims if I’m counting correctly all the years on there. Logan must have enjoyed seeing her display her lost pregnancies by various other dicks, and the icing on the cake is the first one was probably just a few years after he was born.
Must be weird to think your wife was out fucking random guys while you were still in diapers.
No. 508253
>>508231I don't believe that's a mass produced poem. It certainly sounds like some sappy glurge Raven would write. Also disturbing. I don't think she has the faintest understanding of the love a mother has for her child. It sounds more sexual than not.
>>508245I feel like her narcissism is on par with Venus' mother. They're close in age too.
No. 508265
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>>508229Reverting one's surname during dissolution of marriage is usually included as part of the court filing. The person(s) who changed their name is given the choice to keep their married name or revert; they cannot change it to a third name.
Of course she was too lazy and too poor to get a new passport with her new name from the US consulate. But the name on her passport didn't matter when she returned to the US. All that mattered was that it was valid. US passports are valid for ten years. Her's must have been close to expiring.
In order to have legally changed her name in New Zealand, she had to have been a citizen or permanent resident.
https://www.govt.nz/browse/nz-passports-and-citizenship/changing-your-name/changing-your-own-name/#overviewChanging her name with the SSA was the necessary first step before she could get any other IDs [pic related].
https://faq.ssa.gov/ics/support/kbanswer.asp?QuestionID=3749 No. 508270
>>508265A lot of women keep their married name after a divorce if they have children so that they all have the same surname. It’s totally up to the woman, but a good portion of divorced women I know didn’t revert back to their maiden name mostly because of their kids.
Ofc Raven doesn’t give a fuck about her son so that wouldn’t factor into her thinking. I don’t want to drag any extra details about Dorian into this but I didnt think he and Raven shared a surname. She’d would have had to file no less than eight surname changes (never mind the first name stuff) if she took her the last names of all her husbands and then reverted back to her maiden name in between marriages. We all know she’s too lazy for that but what a mess her paperwork must be as a result. People like her like to have regular name changes though because it helps them hide their shady past and “start fresh” conning new ppl every few years.
No. 508272
>>508266Oh there’s no way that’s anything but pure cringey garbage by Raven. There’s some bad poems printed on mass produced stuff out there but nothing that bad. Seriously that poem would get angry “what the fuck is wrong with you” letters to any company that printed anywhere.
Only Raven would write something that awful and then think it good enough to print up on a wall hanging.
No. 508309
>>508265
>too lazy and too poorRyan's parents paid for her passport to go to New Zealand.
>Her's must have been close to expiring.Does anyone know when she moved to New Zealand? I know she moved there sometime in 2007. In one of her life story videos she says that she went back to the US with Ryan that November to see her dad before he died the following January. She stayed for 6 months and returned to NZ with Dorian. All on Ryan's parents' dime.
She returned to the US on October 6th last year, so how was her passport not expired?
>>508296See
>>508215.
No. 508311
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>>508308And entire groups were created by victims of her harassment.
No. 508318
>>508296I don't think she bothered changing her name when moving to NZ nor moving back to US.
She was Diana Dawn Perez (from her second marriage) when she left US.
In NZ, she changed from Perez to Craddock (from Ryan).
Then back to Sparks when she divorced Ryan.
Then Marshall-Sparks with Logan.
No. 508328
>>508318In
>>>/pt/12471 she says that her name reverted to Sparks when she divorced Andres and that her dad was angry that she was using his name.
There is no evidence that she legally changed her name when she married Ryan or Logan. I have never seen her use Cradock. She and Logan hyphenated their names on Facebook, but Facebook does not require proof of name unless the account is reported and suspended for authentic name verification. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did legally hyphenate their names.
No. 508345
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>>508204
>>Ciel and Sebastianmaybe the twins sensed their mother was a tryhard mall goth weaboo and lost the will to live
in b4 REEEEE LOLCOW IS CELEBRATING MY MISCARRIAGES
No. 508352
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This image belongs between
>>506709 and
>>506651.
Raven went on benefits just before October 2016 which may be due to Logan being laid-off (the year without Christmas).
She and Logan lied about the date of their separation to hasten their divorce, telling the court that they split in October 2015. Couples are allowed to cohabitate for 5 months out of the required 2-year separation (hence her comment about living together being illegal).
Whoever made those posts scared her enough about getting caught in her lies to ask Ash for advice and reassurance.
But the Customs Service had already informed the benefits department that she had left the country. I wonder if she tried to pursue receiving overseas benefits if she qualified (or by lying in order to qualify)?
tl;dr Raven did not commit benefits fraud unless she did not inform the department of the change in household income when Logan became reemployed in 2017.
No. 508357
>>508345 if she actually had any miscarriages the fetus was just making the wise choice to vacate the premises.
It’s a good thing Dorian had his grandmother raising him until Raven took him to NZ, because Raven is the type of woman who either accidentally or on purpose would raise a serial killer. She would love all the infamous press attention once they were caught.
She should never be trusted to care for a baby or small child.
I hope Dorian totally dumps some of the goth stuff he picked up from Raven and becomes an Alex P Keaton type guy. It would be awesome if he became super successful and Raven tried hitting him up for money and he could enjoy telling her to get lost.
No. 508359
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>>508352This image belongs before
>>506709.
No. 508375
>>508358These two I though were Ashs, and they are not.
>>507192>>507199Apart from that, nothing sus.
No. 508406
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>>508328I perused her chat logs with Cj. She mentioned two Facebook accounts, one of which was /raven.cradock. She told him he could send mail addressed to her as either Sparks or Cradock.
So much of what she said to him was identical to what we heard her say to Josh in the leaked videos [pic related]. Over time she began to mimic his typing style and vocabulary.
They had known each other for four years prior to the beginning of their romance.
https://pastebin.com/w0qTA9zs No. 508417
>>507839>I’m kind of wonder if she didnt put a period in a jar after the car accident so she could yank it off the shelf if Josh shows some backbone. Raven was incredibly lazy this time around. She claimed she
knew she was pregnant because "all the signs were there". She didn't even bother getting her grubby mitts on a pregnancy test. Literally just "These Slim Jims are making my gut fatter and my period was a couple days late after the car accident. OMG JOSH YOU MADE ME MISCARRY!!!!!!!!!"
No. 508420
>>508407Well it's almost impossible for her to have flown without a valid passport so either it wasn't expired or she had it renewed. There's no way Customs would overlook that. If NZ is anything like Australia it's all electronic - so there would be no chance for user error - the computer would've flagged it.
What's possible, but pretty unlikely, is that they saw she was returning to her home country, which doesn't require you to have a valid passport to enter, and let her go. Considering how long she lived in NZ/residency status the odds are super slim.
Either way it's a pretty minor issue in the sea of gravy.
No. 508430
>>508401>my nakednessShe doesn't seem to mind getting naked any other time.
>>508401>I'm diabeticSo Hagraven has diabetes? I don't think she's mentioned taking insulin within the past year, has she?
No. 508439
>>508406She uses strategies to capture and manipulate a man. She may be an idiot, but she's not quite as stupid as Vicky and any idiot can be a genius at one specific thing with practice and cultivation. Not to say she's a genius since she uses the same god damn word for word manipulation for every guy. "HE WAS THE ONE! I'VE NEVER FELT THIS WAY ABOUT ANYONE! IT'S JUST SO BLAH BLAH BLAH"
And regarding her fake pregnancy. I don't know why Josh would even feel bad. He didn't want kids and Raven said the same in a video. Plus, maybe it's because he's really uneducated, but a woman in her 40s is more likely than not to have a child with a genetic disorder especially downs syndrome. Imagine Raven and Josh having a downs kid?!
No. 508442
>>508401This just demonstrates how dedicated Raven is to these fake pregnancy dramas and how badly she does them. She made some stupid mistakes here that totally show she's lying, including naming tests/units of measurement she'd never have in NZ. So she obviously started reading some pregnancy forums and picked up on a few terms/tests and then stupidly tried to weave them into her story to make it more believable. The only part of the story I believe is the nurse giving her the eyeroll because she was "insisting she was pregnant" when she was not.
I don't want to give her tips so she can make up better stories - but I'll point out two really obvious lies.
If it was ectopic no "sac" would have ever been seen on a scan because it would have been in her fucking tubes, that's the whole definition of a ectopic pregnancy ffs.
But the big things is she posts what are "beta blood test" levels - you don't get four "beta level" tests unless you undergo IVF treatment, you just get a standard yes/no HGC test.
Also those beta test "dates" she posts are all wrong. If you're having those tests done they have to be done every 48 hours to mean anything. What they are looking for is the number/level doubling - not just rising or a particular number. In a healthy pregnancy Beta levels are supposed to double every 48 hours, so no doctor would test her one day apart, then a week apart and then 3 days apart. It's just utter bullshit because she didn't even take the time to read the science and reasoning behind these tests, but she thought it sounded good and added extra authenticity to her lies. The ultimate irony is if she did have an ectopic pregnancy her levels would have skyrocketed - ectopic pregnancies cause explosive rises in HCG levels. In fact having a level that's too high/rises too fast is a sign of ectopic pregnancy, so she got that totally wrong too.
She even adds the caveat that she noticed she missed her period and miscarried "two days later" - that's not how it works!! That's not a miscarriage, at most it would be called a chemical pregnancy because the only way any one ever knows there was even the hint of conception was because of a chemical test showing HCG in the blood. Literally chemical pregnancies are only a term that was invented after at home urine pregnancy tests because that's the only way they are detected. Until at home tests they were just regular periods to every woman.
You can hear her trying out various scenarios to the board to get feedback so that she could then see if they would work online or with doctors/Logan.
It's all just so obviously stupid narc lies.
I did love the delicate modest Raven adding the nurse didn't even let her "cover her nakedness." That was a real special add on Raven to show the board what a sweet, innocent little lady you are.
No. 508446
>>508444Kektacular. Pathetic. I usually feel the upmost pity for any person who has trouble getting life saving drugs in the US since we're shit when it comes to covering disadvantaged communities, but fuck if Raven isn't the one person who doesn't deserve free meds. I say this as a person who thinks every human being deserves medical treatment. Raven isn't human however.
The fact that she's drinking sugary alcohol drinks like Tequila Rose, popping opiates, and getting Josh into accidents for fries and shakes shows that she'll probably be getting dialysis soon.
No. 508448
>>508446Exactly my thoughts.
The reason she was no longer taking insulin after her surgery was from not being able to eat enough to get a high glucose, therefore no insulin was needed at the time. But she does seem to have a very unhealthy diet consisting of Cereals, pop, alcoholic beverages. And countless others. And your definitely not supposed to drink alcohol while being diabetic. It can cause low sugar. Sorry if I sound like a tyrant here. I’m type 1 since early childhood so I’m pretty adamant on helping people sustain a long life while being diabetic because it is no picinic. But I’m thinking her weight gain, poor diet and no exercise, her diabetes is most likely progressing. Eventually her vision will get worse, neuropathy, renal disease and other countless issues that arise if you manage it poorly. I see it every single day with patients. It’s sad but someone can live a full life if they take care of it properly. I don’t think she will though.
No. 508451
>>508443I don't know what "burning the lining of your uterus" even is other than something Raven made up. No one burns uterine linings. Every month a uterine lining is grown and then shed when you have a period, no medical procedure burns the temp tissue in there.
You still have a period even if you don't have tubes, because its just a lining being shed (difference with no tube is that no egg travels into the uterus, so you can't get pregnant. You do however still grow and shed your lining. Basically you've just lost a connecting road btw uterus and ovaries but they still function)
Maybe you meant her tubes were "burnt"? An ectopic usually causes a fallopian tube to rupture, which requires immediate surgery where the doctor will remove it.
That's the odd thing about Raven claiming ectopic pregnancies. 99% of women have no idea they are ectopic until they start feeling intense pain because of a rupture, it's actually terrible dramatic and scary.
Until that awful event happens most women just think they are having a totally normal pregnancy, if they even know they are pregnant yet.
You have to be rushed into surgery because its life threatening. I just can't imagine Raven not giving every drama filled detail about such an event and never shutting up about it - a narc would be in heaven.
You actually can't detect a ectopic with an ultrasound, only sometimes the lack of a sac in the uterus is a tip off but so very few women have scans that early on that its generally only women going thru IVF treatments that get any forewarning a pregnancy could be ectopic due to all the extra tests and monitoring.
Even then it's difficult because at 5 and 6 weeks its hard to see anything on a scan, so not seeing a sac in the uterus could mean ectopic or that it's still too small/not in an easy place to see it with the ultrasound equipment. (Many women uterus and ovaries can get tucked in some weird place making scan difficult, not to mention some uteruses are oddly shaped making scans harder.)
No. 508452
Regarding her pregnancy with Josh: she had at least one period prior. In a video posted on November 29th
>>>/pt/469952
>I've got this guy that treats me like I'm the most beautiful woman in the world, with makeup, without makeup, fat, not fat, on my period sick first thing in the morningTheir car accident was December 3rd. In the aftermath video
>>>/pt/477542
>I had the same belly that I had when I was pregnant with the twins. Everything was the same. Missed periods, implantation bleeding, nausea.Missed
periods, plural. She arrived on October 6th. Eight weeks and two days is not enough time for one period and missed periods.
>>508442That was her pregnancy with twins that ended in miscarriage
>>507772. Her (apparently second) ectopic was the following year.
>>50844341 is in perimenopausal range, but natural menopause typically starts closer to age 50 and lasts around 10 years.
Did she undergo endometrial ablation? I don't recall her ever saying that she did, and she would not continue to experience heavy bleeding if she had.
No. 508453
>>508450Oh my gosh she's terrible! I bet she would have moved in with him had it been a son instead of a daughter. Drama and shit would have still ensued, but she wouldn't have been as insecure.
That's shitty that he sent her phones and cash ect.
Before you stopped talking, did she say there was any other dudes she had on the side apart from Josh? Like do you think she has other dudes on her list right now if Josh falls through?
No. 508456
>>508450this makes sense with Raven and her creepy parent/child views, she sexualizes the relationships.. ew
If it was a son raven would have tried to fuck him, no doubt in my mind
No. 508458
>>508450I don't buy that story about her "choosing" not to go or the details about this guy. I mean her being jealous of a daughter sounds totally in line but no way she'd let that stand in the way of living in a "big house" and getting presents. I'm betting the guy was a lot like Josh, but maybe he actually owned a home. She didn't have some rich sugar daddy in Texas, no way. Raven just isn't the type of girl who appeals to a rich sugar daddy. Even one into gothic or SM shit could do far better than her if he was looking to "take care" of some chick and wouldn't need to import goff granny from NZ. I think he just wised up to the trap Raven was setting for him. She thought it was in the bag but it wasn't.
I mean she was ready to jump on a plane to come to a guy who lived on his mom's sofa - it's not like she has standards. It's a beggars can't be choosers situation. But her ego wouldn't allow her to tell you the real story, so she said it was all because of the daughter.
No. 508459
>>508451She did record a short video after her surgery
>>507801 and posted about it on Facebook.
What strikes me as curious is the fact that this was her second ectopic according to
>>508401, yet both tubes were still intact after her first ectopic and she did not mention her first in the video. She said only that her remaining tube was "really bad and most likely not functional."
No. 508460
>>508454She sold them and scammed a person out of one of the phones. That guy invested money and she fucking left security for a hick in a fly invested trailer. I'm happy for the daughter of the Texas John. Poor thing being pulled into Raven's drama while going to university would have been awful! That's already a tough time.
Ash - Interesting that she was so up and ready to leave poor kid for just about anything. Was she sick of him that she needed to leave him for just about anyone or anything? Or was it just a desperate grab for the States and taco bell?
No. 508466
>>508459See I wouldn't believe anything Raven said "filming from a hospital" because she can just lie all she wants and we know she's a pathological liar. She could have been in there for hemroids or something to do with her WLS surgery, but privacy laws ensure she can lie her ass off and we only have her lying ass's word believe as to what's actually going on.
Narcs love medical privacy for this reason, it allows them free reign to lie with no medical professional able to say a word. This is why it would have been so easy to fool Logan too. She goes in the hospital for constipation but tells him she lost a baby. Probably why she likes them young and/or dumb, easier to fool with this drama. A older or smarter guy would ask the type of questions, or see some of her charts, and could blow it out of the water.
No. 508467
>>508457That would be endometrial ablation.
The condition of the uterus does not cause ectopic pregnancy.
Don't feel like a retard, anon. Knowledge about reproductive health is important to have. But we are quite OT now.
No. 508468
>>508456Not only that, she would just get jealous of someone younger and or prettier. Even if said texan's daughter wasn't a daddy's girl she'd simply get jealous that she was younger and in her vicinity. Hell, even if the daughter was older and or ugly, she'd still find reasons as to why she needs to go. She can't stand not being the centre of attention to whoever she's dating hence they aren't allowed to watch porn or already have kids.
Extremely hypocritical because she is a single mother and pursues relationships but won't date someone that has kids of their own.
No. 508470
>>508461I tried getting it for my absolutely painful endometriosis, however, I don't have children and even though I don't want any, doctors nope right out giving you. Ablation destroys the uterine lining. I think it's just the functional layer (the one involved in shedding during your period).
Raven never mentioned this. The procedure she got involved her tubes (if what she told Ash is true) and she can't get pregnant, but probably has regular periods. 40 is too young to go through menopause.
No. 508477
>>508469Mannn aren't they ALL the 'one that was more than the one'? Like literally every dude is her
true love until she fucks it up somehow or moves onto fresh meat.
No. 508481
>>508463I second this. ALSO Raven is a serial bullshitter and even if she ended up with an over weight juggalo who lived in a tree, she'd find a way to boast about it.
For example-
Fat guy
he's sooo cuddly/tankWeirdo
he's a creative typeThere's many more examples I could use but I think you get my drift.
She loves to not only act like they are
the one but also loves to boast about everything and anything, so anon is right, the house probably isn't even that fancy.
No. 508482
>>508478No…wait…THIS is the one I was waiting for my whole life. The other one? You mean the one I was talking about in my last video? Oh he tried to rape me and beat me up. He wasn't the one at all.
But THIS one…
No. 508488
>>508464After we voiced our skepticism, she posted comparison photos of her pregnant belly
>>>/pt/479850.
>>508466Oh, of course she could have embellished or fabricated the incident. I'm just presenting what she has said. In the first thread is a pic of her in a hospital bed with large blood stains on her compression stockings. And in the video she included an interior laparascope image from her surgery which I did not post.
Her gastrectomy was three years later in 2016 iirc.
>>508474Logan needed a sponsor for his visa since she could not sponsor him. She said that they had one lined up but the arrangement fell through, as noted by a previous anon.
>>508465The dress that was more than a dress was a Lip Service design from about ten years ago, so replacing it would be fairly impossible. But she pushed the point beyond eliciting sympathy from even the most diehard Lippy fanatic by making its loss the focus of two videos.
No. 508491
>>508486Sex is just another tool in the narc manipulation box for Raven. It's to be used to get what she wants out of men.
But I could totally see her being into rape fantasies only because she is that dedicated to being a victim in every aspect of her life - even in bed.
No. 508495
>>508488Yes, photos of her holding her gut one way and holding her gut another. It's hilarious she thinks those photos show anything but a very sad deluded woman.
That Logan needed a "sponsor' is just mind blowing because Raven is an American citizen. For him to get a greencard she would have just needed a minimum wage job to sponsor him herself, but you can tell how important Logan was to her that she couldn't even been assed to get a job for a few months. Raven work? Never. It's only the glamorous life of e-begging, scams and welfare for Raven.
No. 508517
>>508458>>508460>>508481Yeah, she definitely was not the one who called it quits. It's probably closer to something like: he was a normal older man who had a job and a house. not some super wealthy dude. he found her online via her slut photos and decided to send her money/gifts to get more nudes and attention. he offered her to come live in his house as he was under the impression she would be his personal goff sex kitten (barf). she found out he had a daughter and REEEEd about it so he dumped her crazy ass for the next online ho willing to suck his wrinkly dick.
And she moved onto the next sucker who bought into her shooped nudes aka couchy
No. 508528
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I don't think she was ever pregnant with twins. Here
>>507781 is her supposed ultrasound of her "twins" at 9 weeks (I think). And attached is what you get when you google "ultrasound twins 9 weeks".
Now again, I am no medical expert. But as
>>507920 said >that only shows one sac, not two as you would have with twins.< I assume the sacs appear as the black space, and yeah, there is only one (that my untrained eye sees).
Given Raven's need to exaggerate, I think it's safe to conclude she was never pregnant with twins. It MIGHT have been one. Maybe.
No. 508542
>>508528Na, it wasn't even one. See how the identifying details had to be scribbled out on that scan? See how Raven purposely posted a blurry ultrasound with no patient details? It's because it's just took some random online ultrasound photo and claimed it was hers. She wanted so bad to prove to people her latest fake pregnancy is real but cut out all the details and text that would have shown it was her scan and not some random woman's? Sure, sure.
Raven was doing fake pregnancy dramas like most people celebrate birthdays, it's a once a year kind of performance for her. They are usually spurred by something at home (partner not paying enough attention, fighting and threats of break up or simply needed some online drama in her life)
She follows the narc fake pregnancy drama script like a pro every single time. I'm sure some people might give her the benefit of the doubt and think she really did have a loss at some point, but not me. The only thing I would believe is that she had two abortions while she was with Ryan, that sounds about right. (Also Ryan didn't force her to get any abortions, it was just as much her decision because child rearing is hard and thankless, but fake pregnancy drama is easy and gets you attention/pity.)
No. 508558
>>508549Depends on the doctor and region. Fetus is the correct term but baby is used to make it easily understandable to all women.
Weirdly enough the pro-life fanatics hate anyone using the term embryo or fetus, even though that’s exactly what you have at 8 weeks. A baby technically has to be out of the womb. It goes embryo, then after 8 weeks it’s a fetus and when it’s born it’s a baby. There’s a push to have two day old embryos in Petri dishes called “babies” by the same people.
No. 508560
>>508542You're probably right. Which makes it even funnier that she faked both and used an ultrasound showing one baby and not twins kek. She has all the time in the world to research and she still can't get this shit right. Or even remotely close.
>>508549Ya idk I just wanted one showing the two sacks vs the one sack she showed.
No. 508562
>>508554I think Anon meant that it was bullshit that he stopped being nice to her in 2013 since she got married in 2014, not that it was bullshit she said that or that your screencaps are BS.
She was just per-emptively throwing him under the bus, like she did with Josh. Just in case.
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>>508496Gravy confirmed for bodice ripper reader
she wants every relationship to be like Sweet Savage Love shit
No. 508597
>>508572OT it is a very expensive nightmare for people who work or own businesses. Not so much for a broke leech like Raven. The irony is broke jobless ppl are some of the few that can get free healthcare via Medicaid. I’m so glad Raven’s documents and names are such a mess that she hasn’t been able to leech here just yet.
It’s also why her leaving NZ is so fucking hilarious and shows how stupid she is. For a lazy bint who doesn’t work only maybe Sweden would be better choice than NZ. She could have sat on her lazy ass gotten free healthcare, subsidized housing and collected decent cash welfare benefits. But instead she left and came to SC where a lazy bint like her can easily end up on the streets and there is no generous social safety net like NZ. But she gets to shop at Wal-Mart with her e-begging money lol!
No. 508598
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>>508541She announced at the end of February in
>>>/pt/490850 that she had gotten her state ID.
Now that she has her ID and has established residency, she needs to apply for Medicaid.
https://www.benefits.gov/benefits/benefit-details/5941https://www.scdhhs.gov/Getting-StartedHer hospital bills from their car accident were most likely covered by MIAP.
https://www.scdhhs.gov/eligibility-groups/medically-indigent-assistance-program-miapShe is even more despicable for ebegging because they have not signed on for benefits. Their power bill would be a fraction of what it is if they utilized South Carolina Low Income Home Energy Assistance (LIHEAP). They could have free phone and internet service through the South Carolina LIFELINE Program. Julie-Ann wouldn't have to feed them if they received SNAP.
Now that we know she was on benefits in New Zealand until she left, she cannot claim that signing on is beneath her or embarrassing.
But apparently she would rather validate her victimhood by exploiting her viewers' finite resources and goodwill instead.
I can't decide if she is more of a cunt or an idiot.
Plot twist: They are raking in the free assistance programs and she is greedily ebegging anyway, in which case she is both a cunt and an idiot.
No. 508608
>>508597This. Although not all states opted for Medicaid Expansion under the Affordable Care Act or provide Medicaid to people solely for being poor (people must also be pregnant, disabled, or a caregiver to qualify). South Carolina did not opt in, but their program encourages everyone in need to apply.
South Carolina does not offer cash welfare to solely indigent adults, so at least she can't buy more plush unicorns and Tequila Rose on the tax payers' dime.
No. 508612
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>>508598Aaah I missed that particular development, thanks. She's still going to have a hard time getting benefits though. SC did not expand its medicaid coverage, and without a documented disability, cancer or minor children that's going to be a tough road for the hag.
South Carolina has an eligibility form you can fill out, so I did. It really only asks your name, age, number of children and on her own and with no income, she doesn't even qualify for SNAP benefits. Two able bodied adults with no kids don't usually, not in my state and not in SC. In my state, you can get ebt for yourself as an adult only if you have a job that pays practically nothing and even then you get like $64 a month. Certainly no cash benefits either, they hardly even give them to single moms much less dried up goffs who should be working a fucking job.
No. 508628
>>508612Like I said in
>>508608, their program encourages everyone in need to apply. Her diabetes may tip the scale as a chronic condition or at least qualify her for subsidized prescriptions under their prescription program.
Together, she and Josh would probably qualify for SNAP. SC does not require recipients to be pregnant or have minor children.
https://scmapp.sc.gov/popups/BenefitsInformation.aspx#FoodStampFAQI used a different eligibility assessment site and gave them a combined gross household income of $1200, and they qualified for SNAP and LIHEAP. Their eligibility for Medicaid could not be determined with the info provided. People who qualify for SNAP and/or Medicaid are eligible for LIFELINE.
But we both know that our efforts here amount to no more than an intellectual exercise. Unless it is necessary to satisfy some whim, being a responsible adult is simply not one of her pursuits.
No. 508651
>>508633I only post this info in the hopes of revealing to her followers just how much she is taking advantage of them.
Raven is so possessed by her hatred of the haters that she would refuse to utilize any resources we present on principle.
Josh may have some twisted sense of southern pride and chivalry preventing him from accepting charity and welfare lest it make him less of a man. Alas, his perpetually dulled demeanor provided no insight into how he felt about Raven's shameless pleas for donations. Perhaps he does possess a functioning moral compass, but it is impeded by a less than astute intellect and the blindfold of love.
And as long as he is taking care of homeless dogs, he can reassure himself that he is not a homeless dog himself.
No. 508668
>>508652In one of her videos made in NZ she was responding to h8ers and said she had jobs when she was younger. But she's not to be believed so.
She also prostituted herself to bring CJ over to NZ. While not an 8-5 job, it's still work.
No. 508713
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Look how happy Josh was with C ! Before he was dead behind the eyes.
Raven you ugly succubus!
No. 508718
>>508698OT but the level Raven aspires to is the evil succubus grifter who has her hooks in famous fighter and test pilot Chuck Yeager. Key is to focus on older men grieving the death of a wife they were with for decades.
Luckily Raven being a bargain basement Marylin Manson groupie means she’ll never be a successful grifter of anyone but rando losers she meets online. I mean look who she’s with now and she thinks she done good. Kek
No. 508723
>>508714I wish he would cut his hair just so Raven would shit bricks and realize she’s with a totally average broke redneck. Like the immature teenage girl she mentally is, she thinks long hair makes him irresistible and purdy. It’s like his hair has blinded her to everything about him.
He’s like Samson, only instead of losing his strength, he could lose 225 lbs of goffix tatted granny if he shaved his head. Well as soon as she has a new mark set up, grans won’t be given up a meal ticket till there’s another lined up.
Much like Raven he won’t age well. most rednecks don’t due to lifestyle, lots of summer sun, genetics and the added bonus of chain smoking.
No. 508743
>>508732Oh she sure is looking to replace him. She’s very high maintenance. Not in the classy sense, but in her Pop Vinyl, scary dolls and expensive clothing and tattoos sort of way. If josh cannot provide this, she will be on the hunt for someone that can give her what she wants. She has the mentality of a 16 year old spoiled child who thinks she’s entitled to the world.
And owed something. She will never get off her high horse. It’s all about what she can gain. I don’t think she is capable of actually loving someone at all. She’s barely been with josh long enough to know him. But she’s already found things to judge and nitpick at. Such as:
He doesn’t clean
He has bad sleeping habits
His family doesn’t support them
He doesn’t have that much in common with her
And then she’s claiming he attacked her over medication?! I now know that if that would have happened, she would be posting about it and making him look like crap. She a damn mantis, gets a little then kills them. I feel bad for him, BUT, he’s a grown man that should have known better.
No. 508746
>>508743Yeah people tried to warn him and he belittled and called them names so it's his own fault.
Makes you wonder why he didn't jump ship when she said that she booked a flight.
No. 508751
>>508746Because he was documented by us. That's why he couldn't make an excuse.
She didn't know he was a poor redneck until later in their relationship. He lied to her about money. Remember when she made some comment about his ex and how she wast going to get his money or something?
No. 508771
anons you are S A V A G E
>>508754yeah, what exactly do Josh and the Me-Monster have in common?
all cheap jokes aside:
-Josh is apparently a horror movie fan, albeit a bandwagony kind (the new Chuckie fad, the IT t-shirt, even being a Goodfellas and Scarface fan is trite already).
But even tho Diana sports all the horror movie fan merch, I don't remember her ever making a "my favorite horror movies" or any other horror-devoted video. All her videos are about the Me-Monster herself (srsly, she must've redone the "My Story" video forty times already)
Like, even if she did retcon now (Hi, Raven!) and make a horror movie tag video or something, she'd end up somehow making it about herself again, and she actually could have gotten a decent chunk of views and subscribers doing what any other gothtuber does: talk about her goth interests and lifestyle. She could have taken advantage of living in NZ and checking out all the great NZ horror movies the U.S. fans might not know about. There's literally tons of them.
-Josh doesn't appear to be into metal music or any kind of edgier music Diana is into. He comes off as a generic Best of Nirvana and maybe Foo Fighters listener, or some older classic rock like the people around him. Point is, he doesn't appear to be an independent music afficionado. I think he's fine listening to best ofs and oldies.
Raven appears to be into some more underground goth music judging from the background music she put in her older makeup videos but those are probably the bands her ex-friends and exes were into, and she's mirroring other people, as personality disorders are wont to do. Remember she has a big tattoo on the back of her right forearm of Logan's favorite band that she admited she wasn't really into listening.
Like, fucking…the two main things a couple might initially bond over, movies and music, they share little or nothing in common. They might like the same shows, I guess. I think Josh enjoys Supernatural but I also think Raven probably comments here or there about how HAWTTT the Winchester brothers are.
-Josh loves dogs and probably likes or tolerates other animals. Nuff said.
-They're both lazy??? But they won't outright say they are, so again, not something to say they have in common.
-Food. Discussing fast food joints. I'm sure Raven can talk your ear off about all her favorite fast foods and restaurants because she's been slobbering over ones she was missing the ten years she's been deprived of them in NZ.
We know Raven can't cook for shit. Maybe Josh likes to cook unless he's Mama's boy and doesn't cook at all.
I mean, fuck. What do these two talk about all day? I'm sure the Me-Monster talks about LAWLCOW BULLIES but does Josh even have topics he enjoys going over with her?
No. 508794
>>508717When was the last time we saw him with as broad and relaxed a smile in a video?
>>508743
>He doesn’t clean>He has bad sleeping habits >His family doesn’t support them >He doesn’t have that much in common with herIn 5 months she has achieved the same level of utter disaffection and disconnection focused on identical criticisms that required 5 years to achieve with Logan.
>>508752No. Her only misstep was not notifying the benefits department of her departure. Their system worked and she did not receive any funds she was not entitled to
>>508352 No. 508799
>>508795She posted a few memes referencing horror movies on her fan page.
>She could have taken advantage of living in NZ and checking out all the great NZ horror movies the U.S. fans might not know about. There's literally tons of them.So much this. So many missed opportunities hiding in her house for ten years. And she could have reviewed movies hiding in her house.
Have you seen the house tour video? Such a shallow existence focused on stuff.
No. 508803
>>508771
>Raven appears to be into some more underground goth music judging from the background music she put in her older makeup videos but those are probably the bands her ex-friends and exes were into, and she's mirroring other people, as personality disorders are wont to do. Remember she has a big tattoo on the back of her right forearm of Logan's favorite band that she admited she wasn't really into listening.https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0XxSopIJmUOuBV6VytK7JnPvIIrOpbuKShe posted more videos on one of her other, now closed accounts.
That was the Psyclon 9 logo. I perused her chatlog with Cj again yesterday, and noticed that she recommended them to him.
If you have chance, check out their chats. She used the same tactics of seduction and nurtured the same tightly codependent web that she does now.
https://pastebin.com/w0qTA9zs No. 508815
>>508771>Raven appears to be into some more underground goth music No she isn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orrF3xDri6QIn this clip she says she thinks goth music is very 'dull', and describes that she likes catchy things like
Enrique Iglesias- Balimos
Jon EK- Cold world
Kaoma- Lambada
Katy Perry- I kissed a girl
Keane- Somewhere only we know
Kelly Clarkson- Behind these hazel eyes
Seal- Kiss from a rose
Shakira- Whenever wherever
Shania Twain- You're still the one
No. 508830
>>508815oh dear god she likes fucking Bailamos.
she seems to be an average 41 year old in every way besides being an abusive leech. do we know why she still dresses and tries to appear "goth" even though she has fuck all to do with the subculture?
No. 508833
>>508830In that same clip she said she does not consider herself goth.
She go "into it" in her late-twenties, for the aesthetics, she hates all the other aspects.
Basically she is just like all the basic hot topic goths, if they were 50yo asian grannys.
No. 508834
>>508830Even the most metalheads I know have a soft spot for a couple of top 40 hits, but Raven takes the cake. She has no real interests in the culture she claims to live. She only talks about alt/goth stuff when she's on the hunt for a new guy.
What she needs to do is take out all her piercings and wear normal makeup and settle down with some 50 year old dude named Larry who works in accounting and they can listen to Seal and Shania Twain while they drive to walmart to buy Raven her nightly mechanically separated chicken meat stick. He just better be ok with Lorelei.
No. 508835
>>508830She is quite ugly, so being goth allows her to wear pancake theater make up to best hide her features. It’s a vanity thing. Make up has evolved but when she was young there wasn’t a lot of choices if you wanted use make-up to lbecome an almost entirely different looking human being. Goth allowed her to literally create a false mask to hide behind. She hated being ugly, poor, dumpy trailer park teen mom Diane. She couldn’t compete with normal girls and she wanted to be some unique, exotic, snowflake and she wasn’t smart but is ironically very vain. In the 1990s being goth was the easiest and best solution to her problem. Hot Topic had just opened, there was a growing teen subculture of it, etc… the look also attracts a lot of attention - which is oxygen for Diane.
If she had been smart or ambitious she could have had a very different life, but she’s a vain lazy narcissist so is living her life as a character that is totally based on physical appearance. It’s a bit rare because usually goths get into the look because they are first attracted to goth music, books, movies, games, etc…. Diane only cared about the superficial look and style.
Diane could find other niche goths to copy and gets attention for it. Her constant copying of Emily Boo is a prime example. The goth stuff is small enough that most ppl would think she was at least being unique and original with her schtick.
Lastly small subcultures are great for narcs because it’s members people are welcoming to almost anyone who shares their look/interest. It’s a us vs them mentality and dressing a certain way makes members think you are one of them. It allows Diane to integrate into groups more easily. But for 15 years this has been an online only thing for Diane because she can control and manipulate more easily. She has basically created a character to play and tailors it to each person she tries to cultivate a relationship with.
Tl;Dr Diane is a shallow, vain, narcissist with no actual personality- her personality is parasitic and adapts to her victims. Being goth allowed her to play a character 24/7 in full theater make-up and gets her the attention she so badly craves.
No. 508840
>>508834The irony is that Diane’s goals are really low level. She just wants to be a regular consumer of cheap pop culture goods. Most vain narcs want $20,000 purses and clothes and shoes that start in the four figure range. Diane is the ghetto goth version of a gold digger. She’s happy with Wal-Mart and Hot Topic, not Prada and YSL.
I only came to realize this listening to her brag about really cheap crap and clothes. When she pulled her dead mom scam for $800 I realized that was really a lot of money to her, so much that she thought it was worth destroying the entire online persona she had been trying to build for years.
There’s a big irony that someone so poor is so obsessed with buying stuff to make her special. The actual cool goths out there make their own clothes or shop vintage, what she craves so badly can’t really be bought but narcs never understand that.
I always find it funny that nasty greedy narcs like her spend epic amounts of time trying to manipulate and scam gifts, money, etc… when they could make so much more just working a crappy part time job. For all the time and effort Raven has put forth its got her a dirty trailer, that they can’t even afford, with a mattress on the floor…oh and some dumb redneck dude with hair she likes. I mean that’s super low even using a white trash measuring stick, it’s just one rung above being in a homeless shelter. Imagine what she would have if she wasn’t so greedy, narcissistic and short sighted.
No. 508862
>>508857I'm curious it if was indeed Josh's idea to delete his FB, or if that was another lie. We know Raven impersonated Josh at some point to tell C that "Josh" didn't like her kid. After Ash gate, it would be a good idea for Raven to delete his FB so more of her slander wouldn't come to light.
Although, I believe Ash said that Raven created a new facebook account in order to pose as Josh. And we have screenshots of him having two accounts. I guess it could be a combo of both: Josh not really interested in being online and Gravy wanting to cover her fatass, so she killed two birds with one stone.
No. 508885
I’m not sure how to to the thing where you reply to multiple posts, but I’ll try to get it all.
The mutual friends thing, they will take her side, so I’m not even going to involve myself with that. I deleted every mutual friend we had. She has a way of getting people to feel sorry for her. There is no point in attempting this. If they are smart, they would realize it in their own.
The Goth thing, she’s never truly been Goth-Post Punk. She was more into industrial but liked the aesthetic of the Goth look. I’ve talked with her about multiple bands that she didn’t even m iwnwziated that are very well known in the subculture. The only thing she knows is albums that have the word “Goth” associated with them.
Josh and her have musical interests, as of what kind, I have no idea. Movies I guess, maybe tv shows?
If josh k owe ahebacammes people, they deserve each other. If not, I wish him well and hopefully he can somehow get away from her mess and get back in touch with his family.
As I’ve read through here, and I’m finally finished, it looks like she does isolate the men in her life from having mothers around. A bond she wants to break. It’s easier for her to mold and manipulate when they have no one there to tell them what she does is wrong. She’s truly despicable.
I won’t be on here much, but when I am, I will answer questions you all have.
It’s far past due that her “Gravy” Train be put to pasture, so she cannot keep hurting people.
No. 508888
>>508885So sorry for the grammar mistakes. The goth part
She didn’t know these bands existed
The josh part if he didn’t know she scammed people
No. 508917
What really cracks me up is for a greedy wanna-be gold digger she really chose a terrible style to achieve those goals. Goths generally aren’t rich people who care a lot about money and consumer products, kind of goes against the entire point.
Raven should have taken up a hobby like golf or coin collecting to try and met easy marks with resources to leech. Being a gym or yoga buff would have worked too but that requires being out of make-up and not being incredibly lazy, so no dice there. I think goth stuff attracted her in part because she didn’t have to compete with average women - she’s trying to be a big fish in a small bowl. But she latched onto a subculture mostly comprised of the young, and her particular “style” might work for 14 year old but is just silly on a 41 year old.
On the bright side all her very visible tattoos have permanently exiled to either goth or biker/metal niches. Word about her travels in the online niche of goths, on top of the fact any goth guys over 30 know to stay away. (This is why she preys on boys that could be her son)…so this has left her with a dating pool of white trash or biker/metal head types. Obviously the typical men in those groups (like Josh) won’t be providing Raven with much beyond a trailer or bedroom in mom’s house. Even that’s too good for her but it’s nice to know her dwindling options get ever worse by the day.
The next tens years are going to be really really rough on old Raven. The only asset she has to offer is her physical appearance which is entirely a facade. It’s a facade that will grumble as she rapidly ages these next few years and packs on more pounds. You can’t be a goth gold digger at 46 and 300 lbs.
>>508885If your friends can’t see Raven for what she is and can’t bother to the read documented information offered then they are A. Dumb and B. Not worth your time. C. Probably a lot like Raven
No. 509267
>>509113The thing about goth is it’s a culture of the weirdo kids who no one got. Those people tend to be vulnerable which makes them easy to attract and manipulate.
Teenage goth boy who never had many friends. Never been popular. Maybe family doesn’t understand them. Expressing themselves through goth culture.
Along comes a hardcore older edgy goff lady called ~Raven~ she’s so cool and goffic. She’s so sexual and experienced because she’s /older/
See where it’s going? Raven will never give up her
GoFfIC lIfEsTyLe because how else will she attract vulnerable young goth boys?
No. 509517
>>509502I hope her return will be swiftly, but she was able to stay hidden for a month when she came back to the US, so who knows.
She's definitely online still, with her dozens of sockpuppets. But we sadly don't know what they are.
The question is for how long is she able to stay silent and not make a video.
I wonder if she will be updating her patreon and telling her loyal subjects whats been happening?
JK she won't.
>>509503Ash, were you on her pateron? Do you know if there ever was any milk there that she never publicly posted?
(Also, to reply to multiple people, you just click on the number of the OP you want to reply to and it will be added in your quick reply.)
No. 509602
>>509590Is she really going to disappear off the internet?
Or is she hiding from the interwebz boolies who are just so evil, they want to know if she actually did go to the funeral?
Although we all know she didn't go.
No. 509610
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>>509590Damn, it would be a shame if someone felt like she was about to do this and saved a bunch of videos that she still had up involving drama or just general bullshit.
I wonder if the screenshots Ash dropped with Raven talking about lying about how long her and exhusband had been living apart to speed up the divorce had anything to do with the take down of most of the videos.
No. 509630
>>509610Nice job! Did you grab the videos from her other accounts such as the "My life so far" video
>>>/pt/501975.
The incriminating break-up videos are still up. The NZ government won't pursue them for perjury. No one was harmed by their actions to file a complaint.
I suspect she removed the videos of Logan to reaffirm her commitment to Josh.
No. 509639
>>509629In your screencaps she said that she, not Logan, was on benefits. She didn't specify what type of benefits.
She said that they were living together which is in violation of the terms of separation.
See my explantion in
>>508352.
Aside from possibly not informing the benefits department of Logan's reemployment, her only misstep was not notifying the benefits department of her departure. Their system worked and she did not receive any funds she was not entitled to.
No. 509642
>>509641Ha, so she and Josh both thought they’d be living off NZ welfare benefits in the Love trailer. Boy between no YouTube money and no NZ welfare money I bet Josh was pissed. Dude was totally thought she’d be bringing some regular income into this shit show but he was dead wrong.
You’ll recall Josh didn’t send Raven a penny to get to the USA. She had to save up her welfare money (and give Ryan blowjobs) while living rent free with him to even get to SC.
I can almost hear here crying to Ryan about the awful abuse and begging for ticket back to NZ. She fucked herself so bad it’s beautiful
No. 509643
>>509641She was cut off independent of an anon contacting the authorities. At the time anons had no confirmation that she was even on benefits. I think she was faking her distress and sent you the scare posts just to prove to you how evil we are.
>>509642He said that he repeatedly offered to send her money, but that she refused.
No. 509645
>>509643Only a moron like Raven wouldn’t have known in a small country like NZ that they totally monitor when a permanent resident milking the system leaves the country and your benefits stop they moment you leave. If she hadn’t been such a scammy bitch she might have milked a few more weeks out of them had she noticed them she was leaving but claimed it was for a family visit.
I’m sure Josh was just begging her to take his money but Raven with her pride and work ethic would never hear of it! Josh must wait until she arrives in SC before she takes all his money.
No. 509652
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Old screencap from the old drama when Raven brought Ally into her house then threw her out on the streets.. A 16yr teenager.
Ally states in the screencap posted to KF that Raven told her all about the sockpuppet accounts that she's in control of aswell as multiple accounts belonging to her ex husbands and poor kid.
No. 509654
>>509645I can't believe Raven thought she was going to be able to live off New Zealand's welfare system while living in another country.
It doesn't work like that Raven, as soon as you step foot out of the country your benefits are stopped, even if it's for a one week holiday or a family funeral..not that Raven would know anything about that.
No. 509659
>>509654I can. This fat retarded trailer trash bitch thought she could get away with scamming people out of money using her mom's death. Like there wouldn't be a friend or two who found out and actually had moral compass. It's why she got so much fucking absurd shit dumped out in the open. Now she has to be a little scared Josh might come here and believe what Ash posted about Raven's comments about his family. It shouldn't be hard to believe considering that Raven is the reason why he doesn't talk to his family or her attitude toward his family. This dumb bitch thought that she'd come to America and a perfect man would be ready to take care of her for life while she sat on her fat ass and got tons of money from kiwis/farmers for her 30 minute shit talking.
How funny that she came here thinking she had Ryan's money, Logan's bank account, NZ welfare, youtube money, patreon cash and a guy willing to give her room and board as well as dick to satisfy her rape fantasies. Of course every single thing fell through and judging by her rage about Logan saying he wouldn't have sent marmalade, I'm sure his end was running dry. Josh loses his job pathetically and wasn't going to get struck by the job fairy twice so he's now probably doing minimum wage, petty hours for his uncle or something. All her plans fell through and she made a cash grab at her mom dying but that didn't amount to much and the Doja shit didn't amount to anything at all. Her scummy ass ended up in the gutter where she belongs. I'm glad Ash confirmed how unhappy she actually is despite all her pretend "i'm getting off line because I just want to be with Josh" bullshit. Confirmed that she despises him for not spending 16 hours a day while she stunk up the house. Filthy whore.
No. 509707
>>509502I will make a ballsy bet and say she returns sometime come summer without Couchie. She'll come up with a thirty plus minute UPDATE video where first she'll shit on LOLCOW without going into the very damning details, whilst laying in a bed of new plushies and sequine comforters.
Then she'll spin the inevitable Couchie bowing off the crazy train in a way that makes her the victim: he was physically and emotionally abusive. He isolated her from her BBF Ash by impersonating her and sending texts as her to Ash, which made Ash believe all the BULLSHIT that's being told and left poor Raven all alone and accused of things she WOULD NEVER DO OR SAY. And Ash then turned into a complete CUNT (her favorite word, sorry Ash <3) and ran to LOLCOW.
She might even retcon and say Couchie lied about everything before Raven even moved in with him, which is true but she didn't believe LOLCOW because she only believes in the goodness of people and thought despite every red flag that Josh was a good, kind guy who wouldn't do what seventy other men before him did, which was abuse her trust and her body.
She'll also mention how Logan is PISSED OFF and in fight mode that Raven's done dirty like this because HE STILL LOVES HER AND CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT HER and wants no other woman. "He actually found a job and he's working his fingers to the bone to save up enough money to come visit me and hug me, so I'm really looking forward to that."
Finally, she'll act all uppity as she tells us her current living situation without actually doing a 360 with the camera (and she totes would but she's finally managed to mount the camera on three plushies so it might fall if she moves it around too much!!). But TRUST, she's in a much better place right now, staying at a never-before-mentioned but somehow one of her oldest and dearest best friend's place. And she can stay here for as long as she needs to because Raven's just that unintrusive as a person.
I should've greentexted it but I'm too tired sry guys it's the thought that counts.
I also know she lurks here so I've effectively lost the bet already so let's appreciate the high probability of this scenario for kek's worth.
No. 509720
>>509707As much as Gravy hates that lolcow has her number, she isn't creative enough to deviate from the ol "my ex was super abusive and raped me and threw down the stairs" excuse, so I'm pretty sure your bet will be spot on no matter what.
I love how the only reasons she hated NZ was that stuff want big enough and it didn't have Taco Bell. She'll be a materialistic fatass until she dies.
No. 509722
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Raven be reading this thread knowing she can't reply to it directly like
No. 509761
>>509676Actually I believe Josh has issues with pills. Only because his entire life and the way he looks matches the profile to a T. For awhile all the boards assumed he was strung out on something, it was only him working at FedEx that made ppl stop believing it because of their stringent drug testing. Him getting popped by a random and fired is hilarious.
I mean when we were intro to Josh he was 31, was living on his mom’s sofa, no assets of significance, no job, chain smokes, terrible credit. The most likely reason someone ends up in that situation at 31 is substance abuse issues and the south US has a huge opiate addiction epidemic rt now. Not to mention he seemed high and out of it in some videos - he mumbkes like a guy who eats pills and smokes weed regularly.
Josh probably hoped Raven with her NZ welfare and youtube celebrity (lol) would fund him laying around and taking pills in his own trailer instead of mom’s house.
It really is fantastic that she left her tugboat in NZ for living in a gross trailer with a hillbilly pillhead where they will stay broke. I’m sure a couple hundred of that $800 went for Josh’s pills. The only upside for Raven is she can control Josh easier if he’s an addict
No. 509775
>>509705I am so glad I did too.
>>509707Lol it’s cool. And your most likely correct.
>>509722This is the best thing I have seen all day.
No. 509828
>>509766Narcs are rarely into drugs, or become addicted to them, because they already found their fav High with attention, drama and manipulation. The pills would be far more interesting to her as a carrot to control Josh with.
I will find it amusing if her big fake medical drama she created got Josh back on pills. He obviously had quit, was working & passing screens at his job. Raven faking pain for drama resulted in her getting some painkillers, which caused Josh to fall off the wagon, lose his job and he’s now back in a cycle of using. Given what he made at FedEx and now has some crap job they shouldn’t be in dire straights. Their expenses are very low but Raven was desperate enough to pull two scams to try and get ahold of cash which screams drug habit to me. Raven could also be using pills, but I’d say josh definitely is flushing all his money down the drain to get high.
These two are on going down the crapper fast anyway but a pill habit would be like a bullet train down the shitter. Got my popcorn ready!
No. 509923
>>509828I love it when anons try out their creative writing lessons in here
This bedtime story is the best!
No. 509934
>>509828lmao you sound like a bloody idiot.
being a narc doesn't fucking offset the addictive affect that addictive substances have you loon.
No. 509939
>>509828>>narcs are rarely into drugsNope, there's plenty of narcs with additions. They tend to stick with booze and coke, though (inflates their personalities and their self aggrandizement), rather than opiates: "Narcissistic personality disorder is associated with substance addiction – particularly cocaine .1 In one study consisting of about 35,000 participants, nearly 12% of those diagnosed with a substance addiction also met the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. Just over 64% of participants with the disorder had also abused a substance."
https://www.recovery.org/topics/narcissistic-personality-disorder-substance-abuse/https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/tech-support/201610/is-he-or-she-addict-first-or-narcissist-firsthttps://pro.psychcentral.com/exhausted-woman/2015/06/the-addicted-narcissist/Raven isn't really much a pillhead, I would assume she uses the pills to manipulate Josh (either because he's not helping her get more of them, or because if she's the source for HIS pills, he owes her big time and can never leave her, she can lord it over him, etc)
No. 510252
>>509939I said rare, as you said it’s usually coke or booze (gambling is a big one) that narcs gravitate towards if they get addicted and I agree.
Addiction is about activating a pleasure/need. The ego of a narc is their drug. Coke and booze can boost and feed ego so that’s their addictive appeal. Opiates are a far more rare choice, though I’m sure it happens I don’t see Raven going down that route. People who use opiates and benzos usually like them because it calms anxiety (even just normal anxiety). Narcs don’t get anxious like normal people thanks to their ego and therefore don’t get the same pleasure from opiates as an average person.
Josh is a typical pill head type of guy. The appeal pills will have to Raven is mostly as a control method for Josh. I could very well be wrong and would be thrilled if I was. Both Raven and Josh going down the tubes like typical pillbillies.
But Raven is 41 years old and has never shown addictive behaviors towards substances - no smoking, occasional drinks, brags about some drug use in the past but mostly for attention. Raven’s drug of choice is her ego, vanity and attention. Also the fact these two are broke as fuck is going to make funding a pill or heroin addiction for two ppl difficult.
In fact, thinking about it I bet Raven needed the $800 for bills because she doesn’t get Josh’s paychecks. Josh can spend his paycheck on whatever he wants and a small paycheck like his can go poof on just one weekend pill binge. I’d say the blowing paychecks on drugs is why he was living on mommas sofa with destroyed credit even when he supposedly had a job.
(armchair) No. 510409
>>510252I'm not trying to further this specific conversation, so there is no need for another analysis or reply.
However, Raven did actually smoke in the past. She quit sometime after she and L got together or they quit together.. I dont recall clearly. But it's out there on some videos.
She has talked about this in a couple of them.
But I do find it odd that she accepts that couchie smokes. (sorry for tiny blogpost) I used to smoke back in the day and I can't stand the smell for a second, it's horrific.
There also has been studies that show that those who used to smoke tolerate the smell less than non-smokers in alot of cases, so I do ponder what their trailer must reek of.
Anger, BO, old cigarettes, dirty dog, Slim Jims, and anxiety?
Probably also hair spray. I bet you can smell that shack a mile away.
No. 510413
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Guess who was "dumped"? Or should I say, "rehomed"?
No. 510420
>>510413Well, I guess now we know why she keeps deleting everything that had to do with him.
I wonder how depressed Josh is gonna get now, and how much of a downer he will be kek.
This is actually really good news for Doja, and potentially us too.
If she got rid of the dog, Josh is going to be a mumbling finger-sniffing pity-party, da haydurz won't stop "harassing" her in her time of
sorrow, the money is running out/gone by now, is that not the perfect recipe for ranting in a video?
>We had no money to take care of him bc I broke the bank on plushies and taco bell! No. 510423
>>510413Can you keep us up dated on Doja, anon? I'd love to see a happy end to this pupper after being in Raven's evil clutches. The home he's at now looks nice and clean and his kennel has white fluffy blankets. His bed is cleaner than Raven's.
I bet she told the "rescue" or whoever she could that she was burden by her mom's sudden death. I swear the timing was just right for Raven. What an evil whore. I'm really glad that Logan is out, Dorian is out, Doja is out and Raven's family got to put their beloved mom to rest without that train wreck.
Hey Ash, what was actually said again about what Raven was doing with the scam money she got for her mom's funeral? Visit a friend in Texas and hang out or something?
No. 510436
>>510430That dumb bitch has no business being a "rescuer." slShe was obviously trying to pawn off the old blind deaf unneuteted pitbull to the first people who wanted him, regardless of how shitty they were, because otherwise she would most likely be stick with him for a long time. Hope she's being overloaded with "told you so" comments.
Poor pup.
No. 510445
>>510413>>510414>>So heartbreaking.It's not. It's great news.
I guess Raven is going all out, zero damage control. You'd think that burning one bridge would make her try and balance out all the other things in her life, but nah. Steal moneys, delete videos, delete social media, stay anon online but also shit up your fragile relationship w boyfriend who is really getting sick of your shit by getting rid of the one thing that probably makes him happy to live, his dog. This narc is failing at narcing, she's so wound up. She's losing all control.
It was foolproof but I called it on her first Doja vid, and her little stans got all huffy.
No. 510447
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>>507357Updated info.
All hell is breaking loose, she won't be back guyz! Let's have fun!
No. 510452
>>510446She's just protecting herself from you! /s
>>510447>>fake screenshots and backstabbing friendsWell fuck if we don't know Raven like the back of our armchair keyboard stalker hands.
>>509707 No. 510459
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No. 510464
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I don't think she is friends with Raven anymore, eh?
And that was a short 'forever', for sure.
No. 510471
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Oh, well, Autumn, if only someone would have WARNED YOU THAT RAVEN WAS SCUM. RIGHT?
No. 510485
>>510480But in the final update video we can see Doja
>>506449So he never left the shack? Or he did, then went back to it, then got 'pulled' by the rescuers?
No. 510490
>>510486Exactly my point, so Connie never had to 'babysit' Doja, as we can see him after the funeral scam, still at Ravens.
Something went down after, maybe a follow up visit as the anon suggested. I wonder how Josh is feeling about it.
>>510488That bitch had anons sending her emails about Raven.
She laughed it off
>>497858 No. 510494
>>510490>>I wonder how Josh is feeling about it.She probably put him on the spot, like she does. She put him on the spot with every other animal victim before, all were probably SURPRISE! pets after Josh came home from work.
I can't be arsed at the moment but I'm sure if you looked at the months Josh was working full-time and when he was unemployed after Fed-Ex, you'd see that every pet Raven got was while Josh was working, and none while he was at home with her all day long, because Raven likes to go around her cocktoys and make a big decision for the both of them, most likely to avoid any reasonable, rational objections. Another layer of scum on the evil deadite queen.
edited to add: I wish someone sent Autumn those screenshots. She deserves to be put on blast in that group. Trashy cunt.
No. 510512
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Ash might have been blocked by Connie.
Funny thing, all Ash said is "hearsay", but Autumn herself called Raven a shit person.
No. 510519
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>>510518Those were the last comments before they took the post down.
>15 people that known her.BITCH, WHO? 15 sockpuppets accounts, for sure. kek
No. 510528
From
>>510464
>his new home where he is going to be treated like a kingTo
>>510519
>short-term foster that didn't work out>>510512
>I know the couple that had him I know the issues it is not hearsayWhat issues are those, Connie?
Raven solemnly promised
>>>/pt/497479
>He's gonna be babied and loved and live out his days with us, and it will be great! No. 510541
>>510481there was no organization, or even a first visit, only Autumn the fuckup.
I think the phrase 'pulled back' is just colloquial, and possibly an attempt to save face. Gran would've been aching to get rid of him.
No. 510564
>>510560I know, and the poor fella can't see because all these fucks are too broke or have different priorities to spend a few hundred dollars on helping his vision. He obviously was bonded with Josh too.
I'm very interested in what this signifies. She did do it with the cats I guess so they don't all go missing, but with the dogs, none of them were returned or re-homed. This would have involved an uncomfortable face to face, I can hardly see Raven doing it.
I guess what I'm wondering is, are Raven and Josh over already?
No. 510575
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So I was poking around looking for a police blotter for the area and found this. If I thought she had any initiative
No. 510622
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>>510579It's so possible.
No. 510701
Ash proved all our past assumptions about Gravy correct, and once again our predictions that Gravy would dump Doja as soon as she realized he wasn't her internet cash cow have come true. Raven should really pay us for our services.
>>510697I think his mom didn't want dogs? We all know it's just a matter of time before they're over anyway, but it is fun to see how many times she will prove us correct! We haven't been wrong yet so….
No. 510705
>>510701His mom has her own pit or pit mix and allowed Josh and his brothers to keep their dogs (and the myriad strays) on their shared property.
But remember that Doja does not get along with other male dogs, as per Autumn's description.
Speaking of dogs, we never did find out the identity of the cataract-ridden chihuahua in a sweater that Josh was holding in photos around Christmas.
No. 510715
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This lovely and heartfelt obituary has been posted on both sites.
Meanwhile Raven couldn't think of a single thing that reminded her of her mom.
No. 510719
>>510713Prior her penultimate video ("My heart isn't in it anymore") she was fully planning to regularly make videos with Josh, and he appeared excited to be included.
In at least a couple of videos she said that she wasn't spending time online (exclusive of uploading videos) and that she no longer enjoyed it until boredom overcame her while he was at work.
I suspect one of the primary reasons for her withdrawal is that she does not have fast or regular internet service. She has been using her phone as a hot spot and mentioned more than once that uploading a video took hours.
Raven purported Josh to be the white knight she never had, but aside from his initial show of bluster he encouraged her to take the high road and ignore the haters because we are not worth the stress. Read the transcripts of the Q&A series they recorded prior to her move.
No. 510740
>>510455I'm leaving. I really am leaving. See? This is me leaving. I just popped back to make sure you know I'm leaving. That's it, I'm really going and never, ever coming back. You just watch me go. Umm - you are watching me go, aren't you? You'll be sorry when I've gone, so I need to make sure you definitely know I'm leaving so I can watch you all be sad.
it's like a toddler leaving home and making sure everyone knows. Raven, you came back from the dead, so excuse us for being somewhat cynical.
(Have they noticed I've gone yet?)
No. 510978
>>510459Where was Raven keeping Doja "in a dirty 3 foot space"? Didn't he have the run of the shack?
>>510870Newfags who don't know what a tripcode is.
No. 511005
>>510762The same 85 videos are still up as the last time I checked
>>509590.
Interestingly her Bitchute account is still up. Could someone else have set up that account? I couldn't find any info regarding what credentials are required for mirroring.
>>510791All of her Google+ accounts are still open. Closing those would be the real break.
I suspect she lost the log-in for TheRavenOus1 and LeonbergerLoverNZ, two of her oldest accounts. She herself said that the OP lists accounts she doesn't even remember having. What a tangled web she's woven!
>>510790Her LTRs have averaged about 5 years, the last year of which spent hunting the next.
No. 511104
>>511092She's probably still talking to Raven. She might have gotten references (15 people is a lie. No rescue would inquire more than 3 and especially not a one man rescue tard) from Josh. And I think Josh can put a good face forward and is a dog person. People would at least vouch for him saying he loved animals, even if the moron just kept strays around. Raven comes off as an asshole, and while she can manipulate naive or well meaning people, she can't keep the facade for long. Look how her exes and Josh's family hate her.
I think they're just trying to save face for embarrassingly botching Doja's rescue. They would rather defend an animal abuser than say they were negligent in their placement. I can gripe all I want about those morons, but they are least trying, as half-assed as it is. I hope Doja gets a good home despite these incompetents. Doja might be difficult to home because of his age and disability, but he's also very beautiful. A nice dog lover that isn't as fucking useless as Josh may take him in.
No. 511250
>>511241She deleted them or made them private over a week ago.
>>511244You are missing several. They are all still on Bitchute.
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/raven/ No. 511253
>>511252That's not my account. I assumed it was hers when I first found it, but since it is still up apparently it is not.
Other anons have downloaded most of her videos
>>509610.
No. 511260
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From Autumn’s fb page. At least Doja is being taken care of and safe finally! They are still begging for donations for his care but I’d rather give them money than a gremlin who would disappear him after all the hype died down.
No. 511261
>>511250>>511252>>511253I put many of the bitchute videos and a few extras up on
https://archive.org/details/Raven_ should they ever be required.
No. 511272
>>511260Finally a comfy replacement for that flat blue blanket his original owners relegated him to and the tangled pile of sheets and lumpy pillows Raven threw on the floor.
>>511262When Raven had him donations went directly to the vet and to Autumn's Paypal account. Whether Autumn sent the donations she received to the vet or to Raven is unknown. At least Connie accompanied her and Doja to the vet so hopefully Raven couldn't pull any shenanigans.
Autumn appears to have a savior complex. She has gotten involved with other such causes aside from dog rescue.
Most of my anger is still directed at the original owners who allowed him to become blind and otherwise neglected his vet care and many basic needs while declaring how much they loved him.
No. 511273
>>511261Thanks! I have your account listed in the next OP.
Can someone who is on Facebook confirm whether Josh has deactivated his account?
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>>511273This is what I get when I look at his mother’s friends. When I click on those I don’t see anything. I used to see pictures etc.
No. 511314
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This one is still open. I think it is one of Gravy's sock puppets
No. 511396
>>511314The first time this account was posted here an anon noted that it had not been updated since 2013
>>>/pt/449466. Is this still the case?
No. 511444
>>511314What is the URL of his old account?
>>511401When the deactivated account (j.bradley.80.six) was first identified it had old posts and pictures which were public
>>>/pt/398043, so it is his account.
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Nothing but the best for Gravy. Isn't 400$ like three months of rent for her?
No. 511948
>>511832That fan has been on her list for a couple of months. She must have deleted it and readded it.
Raven, shouldn't it be on your wedding gift list? Only 142 days left for your 15 friends to save up!
>>511513Thanks. Will add to the next OP.
>>511841Speaking of the next OP, I already have it written, but do we want to hold off on posting the next thread until she returns like we did the last time?
No. 511958
>>511948It's a good idea, in my opinion.
Not that I don't like talking with y'all but I'm afraid that Gravy will come and shit the thread like she did last time (with the "countdown to couchland" saga I think)
No. 512103
>>511948>>511958>>512065I agree, waiting will make her come running back faster, to make sure we all saw that she left. Hopefully she will have a glorious excuse for her thieving ways, and Doja. Maybe even Josh finally grew a brain and left her and she will introduce us to this backup-Texan.
There is no milk for now, so there would be little reason to open a new thread until there is. The sooner the better, stop lurking here and hop on over to YT and get going on that video Raven, we're waiting.
No. 512913
>>512878>>512901>who's to say what a good and proper person isbla bla, of course she has no idea.
anyway she seems desperate for a new thread.
No. 512930
>>512878Goddamn - a fucking half hour video? What the fuck is wrong with this creature that she cannot ever be succinct? No detail is too inane for her to leave out, plus she repeats stupid shit ad nauseum. This is why I’ve never gotten through a single video of Raven’s.
I’m just going to have to wait for the transcript.
No. 512956
>>512930The beginning is
>You don't know if I still have doja..(smirk) >You don't know if I'm pregnant.. Reee You dontknownuffink.
The middle is:
>I'm not a paedo, but I like younger men. Trolls, stalkers and haterz oh no.The end is (ad verbatim)
>I don't deserve to be accountable for the mistakes in my past.
>[To the hate sites] your world has just ended because I left..and now we wait, wearing our very best goffcloffs like an emo Miss Havisham for gravy to return to our
desperate junkie obese lives (her words btw).
No. 512985
>>512971if you're going to accuse people of lying about you faking your death, don't then describe the ways in which you considered faking your death. it's not normal to consider such a thing.
this is a pile of lies from the pledge to fully sign off; to saying doja isn't gone; to being unbothered; to reading books all day in a state of bliss.
No. 513012
>>512971The way she uses Ash's personal problems as ammo is disgusting, but what else is new?
Also, she spends the first few minutes talking about how this video is closure and her final video she can leave on her channel etc. to address everything but then deletes it within a few days? It makes me think she said something suspect in it, but jesus christ I can't finish it.
Thanks for saving the video btw anon <3
No. 513083
>>513081I thought she already said that she was pregnant and lost it during the crash. Ash only said that Raven admitted to her that she lied about it to Josh and faked it because she gained weight.
And holy hell, she's really, really desperate to not show her weight gain. The new video, she's balled up as tight as possible trying to narrow her body, like we can't tell all the fat that's been added on. She must have made a big taco bell run with that 800 bucks!
No. 513086
>>513057Says she's not online and hasn't seen Ash's screenshots, but knows exactly what the screenshots say.
Also around 33:58 she confirms that she's read very recent lolcow/KF postings about her being ungrateful for Logan. But she's totally not online.
No. 513087
>>513083oh did she? My bad then, I missed that part. I thought this was something she only told Ash.
There is 0 room for doubt that she made it up though. Making up pregnancies is her favourite thing in the world, particularly when she can blame the inevitable miscarriage on someone else.
No. 513116
>>513090>"Dorian is old enough to know better and not be so selfish"That part pissed me off so bad. She blamed him for a miscarriage, admitted she was incorrect, and then refused to apologize. But please, tell us again how everyone is selfish but you, Hagraven?
I like that she was embarrassed by the epic opera music in the last video kek.
And holy shit, I died when she said this last video is "her legacy" and this is all people will remember her by! Does she not realize all people will remember about her is the crazy shit they read on "hate" sites that SHE directed them too in her legacy video. Amazing.
No. 513117
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>>512971Transcript and OP anon here. If you upload the first video to one of these sites I can download the transcript.
I will start editing the transcript to the second video now and post it at the beginning of the next thread.
And I thought my job here was done forever!
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Her jowls fucking kill me.
No. 513128
>>513116
> … holy shit I died when she said this last video is "her legacy" and this is all people will remember her by…Gravy is such an extreme narc, she thinks all she has to do is speak and everyone will accept what she says as gospel. Delusion at it’s finest.
And everyone knows she’ll be back. She can’t live without “da haydurrrs”.
No. 513135
>>513132Yeah, with a whopping 12 threads, she sure is the biggest cow here!
Get fucked Raven.
No. 513297
>>513142Where is all this info coming from that she's living with a abdl/little couple? I almost finished all of the first video while it was still available, or is it in the second video?
And to your question its md/lb when the female is in the dom role.
No. 513312
>>512971Goes on about how people are lying about her being a horrible person but then says the only downside to her losing a long-time friend (Ash) is that she's annoyed that Ash will never send her makeup. She also downplayed the fact that Ash even defended her in the first place. What a bitch. She literally just proved that she only uses people so they give her shit.
Also, I laughed because I thought she'd lost weight, but then realised she had the camera perched up high at a fat girl angle hahahahaha
No. 513319
>>513093You are right Ash, she does go around in circles trying to convinve people she has a life. I found it hilarious when she started talking about her day without 'being online' and kind of runs out of things to say halfway through. She's like- I get up, watch some videos…..uh….we have a couple of books, I'm
reading now. It's like she can't think of anything to say.
No. 513325
>>513138Notice she says she's 'popular' for superficial things like her piercings and hair, not anything to do with her personality. Same with all the men she picks up. She just cares about how pretty they are.
Newsflash Raven, you look like a gothic bulldog with terrible tattoos and fried hair. I doubt people compliment you, and if they do, it's probably about your tattoos ect because you have the most abrasive personality ever. Also, your men are ugly, noone wants them.
No. 513339
>>512971>>513117Video is here temporarily until transcript can be grabbed, but I can't seem to get the auto transcript up, perhaps it's still generating? If there's anything I need to be conscious of in settings let me know.
I understand the desire to talk, but by filling up this thread with reactions to her videos, you're guaranteeing the creation of a new thread which is exactly why these videos have been released by her now. Any new thread is guaranteed to be a garbage fire while she's taking a break. Please think before you add to this thread.
No. 513447
>>513339She keeps saying that when she "leaves", we will do ANYTHING to get her back again. She never said "yeah you will fail" lmao, the bitch is 100% sure we will do it again and she will talk to us again.
What was even the point? In both of these videos she said what she always says (her history, we abuse her, BLA BLA)…. Raven, what was the point?
No. 513448
>>512877>I will tell my friends not to update meWow, after 7 years she still won't admit that she has no friends who read back her lolcow to her, but that she does read here everyday kek
Keep dreaming Raven. See you next week.
No. 513453
>>513339Transcript and OP anon here. I downloaded it just fine. Thanks!
I will post both transcripts here which may require 3 or 4 posts due to their lengths. I have almost finished editing the longer one, and nothing she says is worth disputing because it has all been said and disputed before.
The only comment I have is regarding her fertility and the likelihood of having been pregnant in December because I have evidence that has not been posted. She only talks about the ectopic pregnancy she had with Logan. But in her old blog she twice mentioned having had an earlier ectopic pregnancy and several miscarriages.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110414180831/http://raven-official.webs.com:80/apps/blogSee the entries for December 17, 2008 and October 22, 2010.
The fallopian tube is usually severely damaged if not destroyed completely by an ectopic pregnancy. In the video discussed in
>>507801 she says that her left tube is most likely not functional which may have been the result of her earlier ectopic.
I have the OP for the next thread already written, but I agree that a new thread is not warranted until she resurfaces. I suppose we could use the thread request thread to debate the merits of starting a new thread to prevent filling up this one and reserve the remaining posts for genuine milk.
If this is truly the end of the Raven saga, it has been a pleasure, fellow anons! Contrary to her opinion that this site is useless bullshit, in fulfilling my roles as transcript and OP anon I learned a few new research tricks, acquainted myself with new file management tools, and was able to exercise my writing skills which had been neglected for some time.
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>>513453Thank you anon for the hard work.
Sorry farmhand, if I'm out of line for posting this.
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>>513339>>512971>>512877We all need the right to be forgotten
[first version which she deleted]
Published on May 1, 2018
I'm not back, so let's just get that out of the way first. I woke up a little while ago and decided to go ahead and throw on my face and make this video just to get it out of the way. I know that the last video I uploaded I said that that was gonna be my final goodbye. But I decided that's not the last video I want to leave up on my page that has to do with my mom and my mom's funeral and her death, and that's kind of not what I want my last video to be. So I thought I would do this updated kind of, what really happened, why I'm leaving for good, put it all together in one video since I've removed most of my videos and explain it for good and have this on my YouTube.
So as you guys, anybody who has followed me knows, I have been stalked by this fucking group called lolcow and this other group called Kiwi Farms and then other individual people here and there for going on seven years now. Now, they think that everything that I do is wrong and I am a disgusting person and a pedophile and a predator and a bad mother and an all around horrible human being. Now, this is what they think of me based on their own inner talkings and the way that they've twisted my words around. There's no changing their mind. I've tried, I've tried to reason with them. I've tried to change myself, change my life. I've gone through a lot since they started following me, and nothing I have done has mattered. To the point where now I'm not online, and I have not been online for probably, I'd say, close to three weeks now.
But I do have friends that I am in contact with offline. They have my cell phone number. I actually went to go see one of my friends for her birthday yesterday. Josh and I went and took her out to eat. And she updated me on what's going on online. And it turns out that another person who I had thought was a longtime friend of mine decided to run to the hate sites and run her mouth lying and lying and lying because I'm not online to defend myself. And this is just another reason why I don't want to be online. Now, this person…what had happened was, I was tagged in a post calling this guy a pedophile and asking, you know, to block him and pretty much bash him for being a pedophile. Now, this guy is in a relationship that's only a five year age difference. And I said, I am not gonna condone this, I'm not gonna take part in it, I have been thrown under the bus for my past relationship, one relationship with a huge age difference that apparently means that I'm this disgusting pedophile. I'm not getting into that. And I said, I'm not gonna do that to somebody else. Now, I know I could have just ignored it and left it. But you know, you don't get anywhere in life by not speaking up, and I wanted to speak up and make my point clear that it is not okay to just bully somebody based on their…the age difference in the relationship. There was no reason for it. So I said I didn't approve, and that drew attention to me in a way that I naively did not expect.
And this person blasted me, went and got my pictures, got my statuses, talked about my old relationship, did the whole pedophile predator thing, on and on and on. It became this big thing online for a couple of days which I really didn't need with my mom having recently passed. And I did not ask any of my friends to stand up for me. I asked them to report the post. That was it. I did not ask a single person to go on there and defend me. I would not do that because defending me publicly means that you can come under fire, and I would not do that to any of my friends. This one person did not necessarily defend me. All she did was say, I don't condone bullying on my page. And she didn't really…she didn't name me or specify it was about me, it was just the whole situation. But I thanked her anyway because I knew, even though she didn't say the words, that it was about me.
And then I mentioned I was going to get offline because the hate sites had been posting on my mom's memorial page as me, causing drama, things like that. And I just I was like, this is the last thing I need to see, this is the last thing that needs to happen, I'm just getting off line. And once she figured out that I wasn't around to defend myself she went online and blasted me. She made so many accusations and allegations about things that I've said that conveniently she has zero screenshots to back up. None. So uh, that's a laugh, and it's ridiculous. And it shows me that I can't trust anybody, you know. And I'm tired of pretending that I trust people or having people pretend that they trust me. I mean, I knew this person since MySpace days, so it's been a great long while. She was jealous because the guy she's with was hot for me back before he met her. And I don't even remember him, but he was hot for me. And also it turns out he's been kind of trying to cheat on her saying that he loves his ex-girlfriend behind her back, so she's taking out her unhappiness on me which isn't my fault. It's not my fault your life is miserable. You don't go around throwing your friends under the bus because your life sucks. It just shows what a pathetic and just really really really sad person you are. And the only thing that sucks about losing her as a so-called friend is all the makeup she said she was gonna send me. Piles and piles of makeup that she pretended she was going to send, and she never did. Yes, her makeup was worth well more than her friendship ever was, so no great loss there. Just makes me realize exactly what I'm getting away from.
So onwards. These hate sites have been on me. They will not stop being on me. People turn on me left and right, left and right. They see something in me, and when I'm not around to defend myself they're there, they're on me. I mean, it's, it's been so much. They've taken every single thing I've ever done, everything I've ever said, they twisted it, they turned it. They have faked screen shots, they've faked profiles and faked conversations, everything to keep themselves entertained. And they've played around with my life for a great, great long while. And one of us has to stop. And I'm here in America. I'm in this wonderful relationship. So I decided it's gonna be me. You know, I don't mind. I wanted a real life anyway. I've been saying for I don't even know how long I was going to get off line. And this bullying shit. It's just they're, they're just rabid with their own inflated self-important…sense of self-importance, you know. They act like they are the end all to everything and everybody is beneath them, they are better than everybody else. And I've seen a great number of them, and they're no one to talk and muck other people. Not one of them is attractive. Not one of them looks like they are a well-adjusted human being. They are junkies or they're fucking ugly, and they just…you can just tell by looking at them that they have nothing in their life, and it's no wonder they go after me and people like me. And I'm tired of being their scapegoat. I'm tired of being their entertainment.
And they think that I have a bunch of fake profiles, that I'm online still checking everything. Let me assure you, I had one profile that I had used when I first moved back because I didn't want anybody know where I was, and that profile's deactivated. My profiles are all deactivated. Josh's profile is deactivated. I've deactivated whatever I can. As far as my YouTubes go, I've hidden most of my videos. I am leaving online, and I have no intention of ever coming back. So in this way I do feel like I've won because I'll still be living my life and doing everything exactly as I was, but I won't be posting about it, so they will have no idea. Do I still have Doja, do I have any other pets, am I pregnant?
By the way, this person said that I faked a pregnancy with Josh to keep him or whatever because they burnt my tubes to stop me from getting pregnant when I had my ectopic. I don't know where the fuck this bitch got that information from because it's wrong. I still have a tube. They took out my right tube. I still have my left tube. I can still get pregnant. Just because I have issues and problems doesn't mean I cannot get pregnant.
And just a bunch of other shit she said. Like, I'm sitting there and I'm like, how can somebody write this stuff knowing, knowing that they're lying? How can she bring herself to type this shit knowing that she is 100 percent full of shit? Where are the screenshots, where are the screenshots saying that I said I was gonna sue Josh for that crash? Where the screenshots saying that Josh kicks my ass and he beats me because I don't have drugs to give him? Where are the screenshots that say that I was not actually injured in that crash and I was lying to get drugs for him? I was fucking injured, and I have the fucking doctor's paperwork to prove it. I'm not gonna go looking for it because it's just not worth my time. I'm not gonna get into the whole, this is my proof, this is fake, they're lying. I know I'm telling the truth, and anybody that matters knows I'm telling the truth. They can see the bullying for what it is. So all this and everything else you guys know about.
You know, yeah, I was in a relationship with someone much younger than me. Yes, it was kind of "taboo" and it looks really wrong, and it just kind of makes you say, ew. But you know what, that relationship's been over with for almost a year. I'm not even in the same country anymore. Drop it. The person I'm with now is almost 32 years old. There is no reason to keep on with the pedophile shit. I was not even a pedophile to start with because pedophilia is a sexual, like, obsession with prepubescent children. Yes, I always have and had a thing for guys younger than me, but that doesn't mean I'm some kind of disgusting predator. It just means I like younger guys. Guys sometimes like younger girls. Usually chicks like older guys. I just never did. I liked my age or younger. I've dated both older than my age and younger, actually dated all three. I just prefer younger guys, you know. And it's not like I seek out guys that are younger than me. It just so happens that the people I find interesting or attractive have happened to be younger than me. So it's just ridiculous to make a mountain out of a molehill as far as that's concerned.
And my relationship with my son which is non-existent. You know, we…there are reasons for that as well. And he is 23 years old. He is only enough to take responsibility for his own part in everything.
I am tired of taking the fall for everyone and everything around me. I'm tired of logging in online and seeing myself torn to pieces. Every single thing I say, every single thing I do ripped apart, twisted, turned. And, you know, it's just, it's just too much. And it wasn't doing my mental health any good, it wasn't doing my relationship any good. I was more concerned with what was going on online. And oh, we have to remake this video because if you look too tired they're gonna say you don't want to be with me. If you say this thing wrong they're gonna read into it, you know. It was falling under the same exact, you know, however the relationship was with my ex, you know. It was going through the same motions, like having to watch everything. And it was getting really aggravating, and it was just…it wasn't fun anymore. And I don't want to do anything that's not fun, you know. I…it's not worth my time to sit here and have to double think every single thing I say and every single thing I do and end up having it twisted and turned anyway. So like, what the hell is the point? What joy am I getting out of being online? None. And I haven't for a great long while.
But I have a lot of joy being here and being with him, you know. I mean, every day is better and better and better and better. And the wedding is still on, everything is still happening, and it's just, you know. I have the cell phone numbers of people I do trust. They have my cell phone number. My email address is still out there for people that really want to contact me.
There have been…there's been the hate sites trying to contact me pretending that, pretending that they've sent me stuff from Amazon. I knew you were, you were a troll. I'm not stupid. That's why I didn't write you back. Pretending that they care about me or they're worried about me. But if unless I recognized your name I'm not going to reply to you. And even then it's kind of iffy because I can see how people change. I'm very careful who I replied to. But I'm not really even checking my emails that often. Like, I flat-out have nothing to do with being online. I wake up and I, you know, do animal stuff and I watch videos and I do other stuff, and you know what I mean. I just…we got some books, and I'm reading. And I just…I feel this great pressure off of me now not having to worry about my every move being watched, even if it's something innocent or something that we think we've done good at, like saving a dog from certain death in the shelter, you know, something we thought we were doing a really good thing. And then they went absolutely batshit crazy trying to get him taken away from us, you know. Trying and failing, I might add.
And then, you know, having my mom's memorial page desecrated like that, and then apparently commenting as a supporter trying to take a dig at me by saying, well at least you have two children who care about you. I guess meaning my brother and my sister but not realizing that my mother only actually had me and my sister, so he was still talking about me and her. My brother is from my stepdad. That is not my actual brother. I only have me and my sister, so thanks for the support. Heh heh. And, and then the fake posts as my sister as well, all designed to throw me under the bus.
So my parting words here are don't believe any screenshots you see from me, any posts, anything. It doesn't matter what it is. Unless I'm speaking to the camera, Josh as well, unless either of us are speaking to the camera. We will go to YouTube first if we ever decided to come back online. You would see a video of us saying, look, we're gonna be back online, this is where we can be found, or it's my old profile yada yada yada. Aside from that it would be a profile that they set up that they are faking under my name to entertain themselves. You cannot trust any screenshots that you see no matter how old it supposedly is. So if you guys see anything that's supposed to be from me that I have not talked about in a video, it is not from me unless you know for a fact you've seen me speak about it before. Anything else, I don't care what it is or how authentic it looks, it's not me, and it's not real, and it's not…or it's not Josh. We are not online. And since not even on any fake profiles or anything like that, we have no idea what the fuck is happening, who's out there, who's saying what, shit might be popping up here, there, anywhere, everywhere.
But life is just passing me by worrying about this stuff, and I can't be bothered worrying about it anymore. I can't be bothered wondering, did they make a fake website about me, did they make another fake this so that they can fake that, so they can say this and they can say that, you know. I can't be bothered with what people are saying. They're just big talkers on the internet who have nothing else to do. I'm tired of playing their games. They can play their games without me. And for a while they'll be like, I know she's here watching or whatever, and they'll be saying stuff designed to hurt me or to draw me out or whatever the hell they think they're going to do. And after a while, months are gonna pass and months are gonna pass and they're not gonna here for me, and then they're gonna start to go crazy and they're gonna up their game trying to draw me out more. And then they're gonna get bored, and then they're gonna start making fake screenshots and profiles of me as me.
For all I know they might even say I'm dead again which they are so fucking stupid because when I disappeared back in 2015, somebody made a fake Facebook page saying that I killed myself. And then when my friends stepped up and said this is not her, she's alive, the person who made the page posted as me saying, this is the real Raven Diana Sparks and I made this page just to see who who cared about me or as attention or whatever. And they're spreading that screenshot around as if it's true and as if it was me. And I've said…I can't even count how many times I've said that was not me, and I have never faked my death. I've talked about dying, I've talked about giving up, I've talked about suicide. And I said, when that page went up I found out about it and I let it be because I thought if they thought I was dead maybe they would finally leave me alone. I thought, whoever put that up there did my job for me, I will just leave it there, they'll think I'm dead, and this will all be over. But I did not create the page, I only allowed it to continue until they posted saying that they were me. And I was like nah, you know, I'm not gonna have people thinking that I would do something like that. And then I reported it, and then I got it taken down.
I had toyed with the idea of faking my death because, again, I thought that would be the way to get them to leave me alone. But there was no way I could legally do it because I couldn't post an obituary in the paper because then I would need a death certificate and all this stuff there's no way I could do, so I just left it. And then after that the death page came up. So they want to still hang on to the idea that I would fake my death even though I've specified here I did not and I thought about it, but I did not do it.
So it just shows you how low and how idiotic they are. They…they're like, they're like a dog races, you know. They follow the rabbit. They go in this one circle, and they don't have the ability to branch off and think for themselves. They only follow what everybody else in the site says and what, what their idea of me is. And they're stuck on that rut, and they refuse to see or think anything differently, and that's their big problem. But that's their problem, that is no longer my problem. It actually never was my problem, but I made it my problem because I've always been a people pleaser and I've always not wanted people to see me in the wrong light, but they always have.
But those days are done. And I tell you, these few weeks of being offline I've felt so good. Like, I can wake up [she cracks all of her knuckles against her chest, pic related], I can live my life, and I can know that no matter what's going on, it's online. And unless I log in, it doesn't affect me. They can sit there and they can talk and debate and lie. But, well, they can't reach me or access me. It doesn't affect my life at all. And it doesn't matter what they think they can do or say to Josh. Josh would never leave me. My true friends would never leave me. I've got a person in real life that I can go see. And then I've got some other friends that are pretty close, fairly close by that I'm planning to meet up with as well.
And it's just like, you know, I've got, I've got this, I've got this life, and I'm not letting it go for anybody or anything. I'm gonna hold onto this happiness, and nobody is gonna take it from me. And if that means that I have to get off line and away from the drama, then so be it. I welcome the absence of social media with open arms, I tell you that much, I really do.
So please, you guys, don't believe a single thing you read about me or you hear about me no matter how real it looks or how convincing their arguments are. They do this for a living. I had…I have had other YouTube accounts, and on one of them I haven't used it for well over a year. And I had a video on there, the story of my life. And nine months ago, almost ten months ago, Josh commented on that channel, and I didn't know because if I don't login I don't see it. But a couple weeks ago I went there and I checked the comments and I saw it and I approved it and I was like, oh my god, you know, blast from the past. And this is a channel that I don't use, I don't upload to, nothing like that. And when I commented they found it. They found this channel that hasn't been used in that long within, like, minutes or at the very top a couple of hours after I approved this comment that I didn't even know had been sitting there. There should be no notification that would tell them that I approve somebody else's comment or replied to somebody else's comment. But somehow they knew. That level of stalking just [exploding head hand motion] it just blows my mind, it really does. How did they know every move I make and when I make it?
[That channel has been listed in the OP since thread #5. It was purely a coincidence that I happened to look at that video four hours after she approved his comment. See
>>>/pt/502366 ]
When I was last on Facebook I was trying to distract myself, you know, while I was trying to get the funeral handled and all that stuff. And I watched some random video on a random Facebook page that had, like, millions of likes, and it was some girl and she said something like, I'm shook. And I was like, oh my god does she just say I'm shook? And they found that comment, like, within minutes of me posting it. How the hell can somebody see what somebody else posts in a comment of random comments on a page that has millions of views? How do they do this shit? I'll never know, and now I don't even care. But that's the shit that I'm going through here. I mean, it's just it's mind-boggling how far they'll go to talk shit about me.
And I've got the most threads on the site from what I saw. I went to catalog once, and it was Raven person person Raven person person Raven person person Raven person Raven person. I've got so many threads about me because they are obsessed. They can be obsessed now, and I won't be around to see it or contribute to it. And I'm very proud and happy to say that I'm taking my life back. I have taken my life back.
And the only reason for this video is to fully and realistically update the people that actually care in a good way what had happened and so that I can remove the one about my mom's funeral because I don't want that update to be the last update. I want it to be a standalone kind of goodbye update. So this is it, this is goodbye. I don't know if or when I will ever see you guys again. Who knows, maybe in five, ten years' time, I don't know. Only time will tell. As of right now I've got zero intentions of coming back. I feel no need, no urgency, no desire. I'm quite happy exactly where I am. And I'm only sorry that I haven't been able to be around and stay around for the cool people. But it's just not worth it to me, I'm sorry to say. I have got to think about myself and my relationship first, and that's what I'm doing.
But take care of yourselves, and thank you for being here. Thank you for all your support. And the ones of you that know that those sites are full of shit, thank you for understanding and having an open mind and being able to think for yourselves. Thank you for the well wishes on my mom's death. And thank you for all the help getting to her funeral. And just thank you so much for everything over the years. And I'm sorry I have to go out this way, but it is what it is. It was inevitable. And it's time to go and live a real life and enjoy a real life which I'm quite happy to do. And it feels weird that I'm never gonna see you guys again, but it is what it is. And I'm confident that this is the right decision, I really am. So um, don't forget me. If you do, you do. But if you don't, don't forget me. Remember me fondly. [laughs] Know that I tried. I did try.
I'm just a human being with imperfections, and I've made mistakes just like everybody else has. I've tried really hard to correct those mistakes and become a better person. Some people will not let that happen. Other people just wait for you to vanish so that they can throw you under the bus to make themselves feel better, and that's just really sad, it really is. And other people just have got nothing better in their lives but to bring other people down. And I, I can't stand seeing the ugliness in the world anymore, you know. I want to surround myself with love and happiness and appreciation and the smiles and, you know, be stress-free. I don't want to wake up cringing at what nasty comment I'm gonna wake up to for things that I've done when I was a completely different person. I don't deserve to have to pay for the mistakes of my past. None of us do.
As long as you do try to better your life and better yourself and you actually make an effort to improve yourself and improve your life, I think that's what matters because like they say, life doesn't come with a handbook, you know. Not all of us grow and learn and understand things at the same rate. And some of us fuck up a great many times before we learn, you know, how to be. And I mean, really, who's to say what being a good and proper person really is. I mean, that's up to the individual to decide what you think your best self is, and you work towards that. And that's all I've ever tried to do. And failings aside, I'm confident that I have done my best in trying to erase the person I used to be and be a better person. And, you know, this is just the next step on my journey.
So uh, I guess that's it. Josh is in the living room. He let me do this by myself, but I know he would say bye as well and thank you guys for the support. I don't want to walk out there and bother him just for that.
But I'll upload this. And take care. I'm sorry. And um, have fun, hate sights. Have fun because this is the last glimpse of my life you will ever get. So have fun running away with your theories and your ideas and your, you know, your fake screenshots and fake profiles or whatever else you have to do to keep yourself entertained because your world has just ended because I've left. So, yeah. Wonder what you're gonna do with yourselves now that I'm not around. It'll be interesting. Too bad I won't be around to see it!
[she smirks and waves]
No. 513566
>>513556Don’t you love her bullshit? I just can’t imagine how pathetic she has to be to not only invent a friend but then claim the friend spent her birthday telling Raven all about her thread. The fact Raven even thinks this is a plausible scenario shows why she has no friends.
Remember how thrilled she was that someone showed up to her first trailer with some food? She was in such a hurry to brag about a irl person she took a photo of the woman and posted it. But not a word about this irl birthday friend that they spend their non-existent money on taking out to discuss Raven’s thread till now.
We all know she reads these threads obsessively but her constant lies to pretend she doesn’t is extra entertaining.
No. 513589
>>513339She looks haggard, I wonder if she’s lost any sleep over the Ash reveals.
I think her staying offline is really killing her, which leads her to make these insane videos. An hour of this shit is ridiculous.
No. 513610
>>513057We all need the right to be forgotten
Published on May 1, 2018
“So for now I say goodbye to this chapter of my life and I look forward to what comes next.”
“One day at a time, this is enough. Don’t look back and grieve over the past for it is gone. Do not be troubled about the future, for it has yet to come. Live in the present and make it so beautiful that it will be worth remembering.”
“It doesn’t matter if you have five friends or five hundred friends. When it all comes down to it, popularity means nothing. All that matters is that you know those five will be there holding your hand, as the five Hundred walk by.”
“Today, I close the door to my past… Open the door to the future, take a deep breath and step on through to start the next chapter in my life.”
“It feels right. But it’s emotional. Saying goodbye to anything you’ve done that long is hard.”
"The more social media we have, the more we think we're connecting, yet we are really disconnecting from each other."
"Using social media to hurt and destroy is callous, acted out by cowards hiding behind computers. My advice is to ignore negativity. Focus on the love around."
"We live in a culture where everyone's opinion, view, and assessment of situations and people spill across social media, a lot of it anonymously, much of it shaped by mindless meanness and ignorance."
[transcript]
It's like four o'clock in the morning, and I'm here making this video again. I'm really sorry if you guys caught my first round or have already watched it a couple of times. It's been so long since I've like made a proper video. I was trying to rush all the information out there assuming everybody knew everything that was going on. And when I rewatched it, to me it didn't actually make a whole lot of sense. I felt like I left huge chunks out. And this video is going to be the last video that's up. So people that know me and people that don't know me, this is the information they're gonna be left with, and so it needs to be as exact and full as possible. I know I look really tired, and it's just because I haven't been sleeping lately and my insomnia has kicked in again. So excuse me ahead of time. That's not stress, that's just days and days of no sleep. Um, anyway…So I'm gonna try to make this a little bit easier to understand, and I'm gonna leave out the background music. I tried to make a proper video like everybody else and have nice background music. And to me it's always really distracting because the background music overrides your voice, and it just it's hard to focus on one or the other. And I just wasn't happy with the video as a whole, so I'm gonna try again. Please bear with me. I am really sorry I have to put you through this again.
So starting from the start: I am leaving social media. I have left social media. I have not been online for about two to three weeks now. I do not have any other profiles. I do not have any other pages. I don't have anything open at the moment. I do not plan on having anything open for the foreseeable future. I've got no desire to be back online. I've actually been having a really good time being offline. Holy shit, I look tired. And as far as I know, I'm gonna stay offline. Josh and I are both offline. We're both intending to stay offline. Start from the start, from the start start start.
For those of you who don't know because I've removed most of my videos, I have been stalked and harassed and hassled and bullied and everything else by a few hate sites online called Kiwi Farms and lolcow. And then there are, of course, individual people that are either from the site or not from the site, but they do the same thing. Now, these people have all targeted me. They targeted me about seven years ago. And I don't know what it is that brought me under their radar. Something did, and I have not been able to skip them since. I didn't know that they existed at first. I only found out years later, when I was with my previous husband, that these sites even existed and that I was apparently very, very popular on them. I've gone through periods in my life where I wasn't necessarily a great person or a nice person or even a respectable person, you know. As we all do we grow and we learn and we change. And I've gone through many, many stages of growth in my life. And I've tried to listen to what they had said about me and use it to improve myself, improve my life. I try to take the positive out of all the negative. It didn't make a difference. Nothing that I did mattered. Nothing I did changed anything. They just kept on with the same old stuff, or they turned it around.
They said I was basically too fat to be alive because in New Zealand I'd gained a whole bunch of weight. I got weight-loss surgery, but apparently I'm undeserving of weight-loss surgery and I'm still a fat and I'm disgusting, I'm old, I'm too old to look the way I do, dress the way I dress. But others are. It's apparently okay for them. Although I really think that they've got issues with gothic people in general because they, like, mock every golf person out there except for Adora Batbrat. They seem to love her, unless I'm missing something. But everybody else they can't stand.
And they didn't like my relationship with my son who is 23 years old and who was old enough to know better and to make the right decisions in life and to maybe not be so selfish. But he will not take responsibility for anything that he has done and instead has joined their ranks and has turned on me and also lied his little butt off with the help of the little girl that he is seeing.
They have called me a pedophile because my ex-husband was 19 years younger than me. Now, I am 41 as of the date of this video. I'm 41 years old. I'll be and as a maid I'll be and months. And I have always had an attraction for people younger than me. I'm not a pedophile. I've never been a pedophile. There's no sexual fetish there. It's nothing sexual at all. I just I've never felt my age for whatever reason, and I've always gotten along better with those that are younger than me. Some people like people older, some people like people younger. It's just a matter of taste. I've dated people my age, I've dated people older, and I've dated people younger, and I've just always gotten along better with the younger ones. Now, my relationship with him was very odd as far as the numbers and the ages went. And I tried to be understanding and say, oh I, I can see why people would have a hard time with it. But the fact is I've been out of that relationship for almost a year. I've left New Zealand, I've moved back to America, and I'm in a new relationship with somebody who is almost 32 years old. And I still get hassled and called a pedophile and a predator and all this other stuff. The proper definition for pedophilia is someone who has a sexual attraction for somebody who is prepubescent, and I have never been into children. Liking somebody younger than you does not mean that you are a pedophile. And I have taken the blame for that for our whole relationship, almost six years together, and I'm still taking the blame for it even now, even though I'm no longer in that relationship. So that has been an area of stress for me over the years, many many many years.
So my weight, my age, my motherly…mothering skills, or lack thereof according to them, the way I express myself, the way I did my makeup, the way I dress, my tattoos, my piercings: every single aspect of my life has come under fire. Nothing that I have done has taken the heat off of me. Ignoring them, not ignoring them.
I vanished offline in before I got my weight loss surgery, and while I was offline somebody made a fake page saying that I had killed myself. And my friends posted on there saying this doesn't sound like her, this is not Raven, she's still alive. And when that was posted whoever made the page came forward and said that they were me and that I did indeed make the page but I did it for attention or to see if anybody cared about me. And the hate sites say it wasn't them. It was definitely somebody. And they say that that was me, that was me, that was me. And I have stated on countless, countless occasions that I did not fake my death. My son says I faked my death. He knows better. I did not fake my death. What I did was I said, do not answer if I'm alive or if I'm dead, because I thought at the time that it would be a good idea if they did think I was dead. When the page popped up I thought that it was a good idea just to let it go because if they thought I was dead they would leave me alone, so I thought at the time. And all I did was to tell my husband at the time and my son, if anybody asks you if I'm alive or dead tell me who they are, I'll tell you if it's safe to tell them the truth, otherwise answer securely, do not let them know, that way you're not saying I'm dead, that way you're not saying I'm alive, and then maybe they'll just go away. And it did not work.
I have thought about faking my death. But I actually went as far as to call the newspaper and ask what you would need to post a picture in the paper, and that's when I found out that you needed, like, a doctor's certificate cause of death and death certificate and all that stuff, so I would not legally be able to do it, and that idea was scrapped. Soon after I called to find the information out is when that page went up and so if it right with what I was trying to do anyway. And I thought it would be a good idea, it'll be way for me to kind of get off the radar. And it did not work that way. But I promise you I did not make that page and I did not fake my death. That…that's also haunted me for years because apparently I did.
I guess that's the past all caught up. Pretty much it's all you need to know is that I've tried to get away from it, I've tried to do everything anybody suggested, I've tried to see the positive in it. I've tried and I've tried and I've tried and I've tried. And this is now the seventh year of my life that they are stalking me. And if you go there and you go to catalogue you'll see I have more threads on there than anybody else. It's me me me. They take the most unflattering screenshots of me. And they just talk so much shit. They lie and they fake screenshots and they faked profiles and they faked conversations and they twist and turn the truth around.
For instance, Josh and I took in this eleven year old blind dog. And we thought we were doing a commendable, really good thing by saving this dog's life because we were the dog's only hope. Nobody wanted him. He's…he was old, he's blind, he came with a lot of health problems nobody knew about. And instead of saying, oh they're doing a good thing, they went off the wall calling the vet, calling the dog rescue, calling everybody, calling and emailing and facebooking to try to get the dog taken from us. They failed. Um, they for instance used something I said in a video, something that I said when I was about years old in a video that I uploaded about to to years ago. They tried to link to that, use that against me.
They took some statuses I made when my cat Marmalade was still alive and she had her kittens. They snipped parts of one of my statuses to make it look like I was selling kittens off to go out to dinner which wasn't what happened at all. What happened was those kittens were spoken for before they were born. And somebody picked them up I guess as a Valentine's Day present, and when this woman picked up her kitten and paid we were able to go out to Valentine's dinner that day because she happened to pick up her kitten on that day. But they were already sold, they were spoken for. I mean, it wasn't like that at all. We didn't specifically just start selling off kittens. I mean, we tried keeping as many as we could, but in the end we knew either I was going to come to America, we were gonna come to America, we were gonna split up, and so we had to get rid of everybody. But I'm not going into that. I don't need to explain my past anymore. That's not what this video is about. This video is about filling in people that might not know what all has happened. Um, so what else, what else, what else.
Recently, as you guys know, my mother has passed away. That's been really hard. I've got a lot of emotions happening in my head. I, I still…I'm not quite sure how to handle myself or what to do, how to deal with. Maybe that's why I can't sleep, I don't know. It still doesn't feel real. I'm still trying to cope with the whole thing myself. It just feels like I could just pick up the phone and call her at any time, you know. It doesn't feel like this has happened. I, I walked through the house and I'm like, she's gone, my mom's dead, she's gone, she's gone. And I just, I just can't really come to terms with it. It just doesn't feel…it's not, it's not a sentence you ever think you're gonna say, you know.
And right around this time, I think either right before or right after, I found out I was tagged in a status by somebody on Facebook, and they were asking me and everybody else on the friends list who's mutual friends with this one guy to block him and to bash him for being a pedophile because this guy was in a relationship that had a five-year age difference. And, you know, I decided to speak up, not just to ignore it, but I wanted to speak up. And I said, you know what, I don't condone this, I don't approve of it, I'm not going to bully somebody for a five-year age gap, I don't think it's right, and I'm not gonna do it. I did not think that I would come under fire the way that I did. I thought I made a pretty valid argument. I explained my last relationship ish. I didn't go into great detail. I just said I had a 19 year age gap. I mean, it was legal and everything, but I did get hassled for it because he was quite young. We're not together anymore. I'm gonna pay for that relationship for the rest of my life I'm pretty sure. And I came under attack from one person because of that. And I was just like, I really don't need this right now. I did not ask any of my friends to go and defend me because if somebody defends me or comments on anything or sticks up for me or whatever it puts them at risk of coming under fire from the hate sites, so I usually tell my friends not to because I don't want to put them in that position. That's not what being a good friend is.
And this one girl who I've known since MySpace days…she really doesn't deserve a mention, but she's part of this whole story so that's the only reason I'm talking about her…she says she defended me but really all she did was say that she didn't condone bullying on her page or her friends list. I thanked her because I knew she was, in her own way, trying to stick up for me even though she did not name me or name the situation. I thought, well at least, you know, she's a friend of mine, it's still nice that she said something. And then I went offline. I had mentioned that I was gonna go offline and I did go offline after that because I'm like, I don't want to be drawn into this bullying, I don't want to be drawn into this drama, I don't need it in my life right now. I just…I'm just over all the negative hatred online and the maliciousness and people being petty and the power trips. I just didn't want any part of it. I had announced that I was going to be going offline, so it should have been no surprise she popped up saying I fucked her over, I did something to her, I betrayed her, she should have known better. I don't know what the hell she's talking about because I didn't do anything to her. The only thing I did was get offline.
She apparently came under fire because she defended me. And once she came under fire and she realized that I was no longer online to defend myself she put me on blast. And she didn't put me on blast by telling the truth. She put me on blast by lying. And a lot she told were complete doozies. Now, I caught a glimpse of what she was saying before I got offline. And after that I have a…I do have a friend around here that I've seen. I saw her yesterday. Her and her fiance, we took…Josh and I took her out to dinner for her birthday. And she let me know kind of what was going on and that this person has gone around blocking everybody or blocking the profiles that they know about as far as way what they have and that they were going online trying to expose me and saying certain things. And the things that she is saying are completely off the wall like that I wanted to sue Josh for the crash and that Josh is a junkie and he held me against the wall and beaten me up because I wasn't actually injured in the crash, I was only getting medication to give to him because he's the junkie, and when I couldn't get more medication he kicked my ass. And that is so far beyond ridiculous. It's…I can't even laugh about it. Josh not only is not a junkie even though the hate, the hate sites like to say he is, he's some kind of druggie junkie. He does no drugs. He smokes, and he isn't a smoke cigarettes, he smokes the Juul which is like a vape that I got him for an early Valentine's Day present. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he doesn't do any of that. He is the most nonviolent person you will ever meet. And he would rather welcome from trash than to lay his hands on me. I was indeed hurt in the crash. As you guys know I had a broken rib at a broken rib, bruising on my brain, bleeding in my liver, a lacerated kidney, and a partially deflated lung you so you tell me how that's just whiplash and I lied about all that. I'm pretty sure I even had a video up where you can hear my rib cracking as I breathe because my rib was popping in and out. So those pills were for me, and I needed them to sleep because I couldn't move because my rib was broken. Um, I would not sue Josh. Why the fuck would I even think about that? And other stuff that I don't even want to get into.
She is so full of shit. Every single thing she said was a lie. And she has posted screenshots apparently of conversations we've had. I don't know what the screenshots are. I was just told that she's posting screenshots of things that were said, but that conveniently enough none of what she showed were any of the allegations of things supposedly I said. So all these really really really bad things that I supposedly said she hasn't even shown proof of those. She's done proof of things that aren't even important. So I thought that was a great big laugh. And I suspect that the reason she's actually doing all this, aside from the fact that she's a and she can't actually handle getting talked about…welcome to my world, you know, whatever. I think that what it is is because apparently I used to talk to her boyfriend or fiance before they were together on MySpace many many many many years ago. And I don't remember him whatsoever, but apparently he used to have a thing for me. She told me this and she's probably jealous because of that which makes no sense. And she also told me that he's been going behind her back talking to his ex-girlfriend saying that he loves her, she's the only one he's ever loved and wants to be with and all this. I was trying to be a good friend to her. I said, you don't deserve to be treated that way, you deserve someone who's gonna love you the way you love them and maybe it's time to live for yourself instead of hanging on to somebody that obviously doesn't love you. And I said, whatever you decide to do I'll support you, I'm here for you because that's what friends do. And she stayed with him. I didn't ask her, I didn't judge her, I just, you know, whatever. I saw that they were still together, she took him back, and I just figured well, you know, she must either really love him or just really be desperate and but it's not my place to judge because it's her relationship. And you can tell she's miserable because only miserable people do the kind of stuff that she has done to me.
And the only thing that I'm gonna miss about her so-called friendship is all the makeup that she said she was gonna send me. I said this in the other video and I think it's funny enough I'm gonna say it again. She showed me boxes and boxes and boxes of, like, this makeup she promised she was gonna send. And I knew she was full of shit at the time. But I know for sure she's full of shit.
As is the person that tried to troll me and say, oh by the way I bought you something from your Amazon wishlist. I wrote back and I said, thank you. And then they wrote again and I, I ignored it. I knew that they were from the hate site. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. I always say thank you because it's the polite thing to do. I don't want to just, like, leave a message and not say anything, so I do try to write back at least to say thank you. I did that, but I checked out her profile and she pretty much was only following me in my videos and only the really kind of offensive ones, and so I knew right then and there that she was a troll.
Hoo, what else. My friend told me that they are laughing and saying that I have like seven fake profiles that I'm online with right now and I'm watching everything they're saying and doing. So I just want to reiterate that neither Josh nor I are online on any profile. Not a fake profile, not anything. We are not online period. I checked my email every couple days. Um, I don't check it very often anymore so I'll have, like, 50, 60 spam in there, just boom boom boom because I'm checking it so rarely now. I don't log into Facebook. All my Facebooks are deactivated. Even the fake one that I did have, which was the I contacted bitch face on, when I first moved here because I didn't want anybody to know where I was and that I was online, I just wanted some peace and quiet. So I talked to her on there because I trusted her because I thought she was my friend. And that's been deactivated. Everything else has been deactivated. And if I did reactivate it was only so I can log in on my phone and deactivate Messenger because now you have to deactivate through the Messenger app, you can't just deactivate online and have Messenger gone, too. So we've done that. So there's no reaching me, there's no reaching Josh. We're offline.
As far as my other video went, I've gotten a few questions. I'm not answering any questions. If you want to ask you something that's direly important, then email me. My email is around for those that know where to look. But I'm not opening my comments for questions and answers and communication because that means I'm gonna be sticking around online to be responding to people, and that's not what I'm trying to do here. I'm trying to say a goodbye to everybody and explain what has happened and why I'm leaving and kind of wrap everything up in a nice tidy bow. And, and that's about it, you know. I'm not trying to get into conversation with people. I'm very sorry if that seems rude, but I've got to cut it somehow. And I'm not going to cut it…be able to cut it if I keep coming back to respond to you guys so I'm just, I'm just not.
You want to know where Doja is and if we still have him, you want to know if we're getting married, if we've gotten married, if we've gotten more pets, if we're getting more pets, if we're moving, if we have moved, if we're gonna move, if I get pregnant, you know. I acknowledged this in my the video, and I'm gonna say it again.
Uh, fuckface there had tried to say that um…because I didn't talk about this, I don't think. But during the crash I was pregnant. I was pregnant. Because of the crash and or the medication or just because my body's fucked, I lost it. She tried to say that I lied and I faked a pregnancy to guilt Josh and make him stay with me or something stupid like that. For one, I don't need a fake pregnancy to keep him with me. He loves me. He will never leave my side. I have never felt so sure of somebody's love like I do with him. I love him as much as he loves me. And he's not going anywhere, so I don't have to lie or pretend or fake anything to keep him. She said that apparently when I had my ectopic they burnt both my tubes so that I could never get pregnant again which is kind of funny because that didn't happen. I had my right tube removed because that's where my ectopic was. My tube burst, had ruptured, and I had internal bleeding. But I still have my left tube. So it just goes to show how full of shit she is. She's sitting there talking about my life as if she knows my life, and she's fucking wrong on every front. So there's that. Things that you hear and you read are not true. They are just twisted half-truths as I've always said.
I'm trying to think if there's anything else I need to say, what I said in my last video. To give you two recent examples of how much they stalk me. I had commented on a video on one page on Facebook before I shut everything down. It was a like page that had millions of likes on it so it was quite a big page which means quite a bit of traffic through it. And it was some video with some girl and she said, I'm so shook. And I was like, oh my god does she actually just say that? And so I commented that, did she really just say that? And somehow on this very busy, very popular page, they saw that I commented and they screenshot it and they said, wow, you know, in the middle of her mourning she's commenting, talking shit, or something. They said something along those lines.
I was sent a whole bunch of screenshots, by the way, of a lot of the shit that was going down because I wanted to know what was being said without visiting the site myself. So this time around I haven't been…I don't know, like, word for word all of what's being said. I only know what's been passed along to me by my friends. And I just thought that was really weird that they would know what I posted right after I posted it on a page like that. And see, like, I monitor my friends list, and I don't accept anybody who's got less than, I'd say, 500 friends, 500 to a thousand friends. I don't accept. And if you have that many friends your feed would be pretty full. I don't see how you'd see every move I make. It just doesn't make sense. They stalk me that much.
I also had a few other YouTube channels as you guys might know. And on one of them I posted the story of my life, and that's a channel that I don't use. It was, like, a backup channel. And I had only posted my story there because at the time I wasn't able to upload videos longer than, like, 15 minutes on this channel, and that video happened to be like an hour long because it's, you know, my whole life. So I uploaded it there, and I had denied all comments. And then I allowed comments and I saw that nine months ago, almost ten months ago, Josh had commented on that video. And I hadn't even known because I don't use that channel. So it's been at least nine months if not slightly longer. And I went and I saw it a couple weeks ago and I approved it and I said, oh my god blast from the past, you know. I was just like, wow this is so cool, it's a comment from him before we even started dating. And on this random obscure channel that had, like, one video on it, that had had comments disabled for the last nine months, the moment that I accepted comments and accepted and responded to his one comment, they found it and they, they put that on their site. How the hell would they know that unless they were stalking, like, every single link I have constantly? It just boggles my mind that they would put that much effort in. I mean, to catch something like that that they would have no right to know because I didn't even know I had a comment on that page I use it so rarely, you know what I mean?
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>>513610It's just, the thing with this ex friend of mine, the thing with them going onto my mom's memorial page and posting as me, posting as my sister, posting as a supporter trying to say…trying to take a dig at me and say that, well at least my mom had two children that loved her, meaning my brother and my sister, not knowing that my mom only had me and my sister. My brother is my stepdad's son from somebody else, and my brother and my sister are together and they have a kid together. He's not my real brother, he's only my stepbrother. And he's not related to my sister at all because my stepdad adopted me, did not adopt her. So uh, yeah, that was supposed to be a dig at me as well. And to think that they would be so low as to go onto someone's parent's memorial page and start shit. It was just, that right there was the final straw for me, and that's when I decided, like, I just can't do this anymore. I'd sit there and I'd be on my phone monitoring shit constantly. Josh would be trying to talk to me, and I'm so worried about what's going on online. It was taking my time and my attention away from him.
And our relationship was falling into the same routine as mine and my ex's, too, where if we made a video together and Josh was tired from work or he didn't look too happy, I couldn't post it because they'd say he didn't want to be with me. They were trying to read into every expression on his face. They still tried to say that he didn't want me to come here because when I told him that I bought the ticket he was in the middle of working. He was shocked, he couldn't hear, he was in training, he had somebody with him, and, you know, I didn't want to wait to tell him. But we had already discussed that I'd be buying the ticket that day, so he already knew and everything was fine. And obviously he wanted me here, you know. It was all either of us wanted was for me to come here. And they try to act like they know how he felt and that he didn't want me here. And they listened to his ex-girlfriend who said that he lived on a couch and lived off of his mother when in fact he had his own place. And before that he had his own place and his ex actually stayed with him, her and her daughter stayed with him at his place, and occasionally his mom would come and stay with him. But he was not living with his mother. And even if he was, who gave a shit?
They think that I should be embarrassed because we live in a trailer. It's like, at least I have a roof over my head. I like trailers. And yeah, the trailers that we've lived in might not be brand new or expensive, but you know what, it's a roof over our head. They…I saw a screenshot where they said that in New Zealand I had a cute little house and a much better looking place and I gave up my marriage to come here and live in a shack. And it's like, my marriage sucked, it was not good, I was neglected, we were getting bullied, I was not right for him, he was not right for me. We thought we're right for each other, but in the end we were not. We were two totally different people who were just trying to make it work, and it was doomed to fail. And the house was not nice. If you call breathing in black mold and falling through the floor because there's holes all under the carpet and bugs everywhere, if you call that a nice house then you've got issues.
But I'm happy here. I mean, I don't care. As long as we've got power and we've got food and we've got four walls and a roof and we have each other. That's all I need. [cut] Sorry, my camera cut out. But um, I don't actually need a lot to be happy, contrary to popular belief, you know. All I really want is a family of my own or to be loved, appreciated, someone I can get along with and talk to, someone who's gonna be there for me, understand me, not judge me, and I have all that and more. What else do I need? We have a vehicle, we have a fridge full of food. I cook all the time. I have a man that's the most beautiful guy I have ever laid eyes on.
And yeah, you know what, in a lot of my relationships I felt like they were the one or I'd hoped that they were the one, and I had really high hopes. I thought that I loved them, but I just wanted it so bad, you know. I wanted to be wanted so badly that I lied to myself. I put them on a pedestal. I wanted to believe that they wanted the same things that I did, and if they told me that they felt the same as me I wanted to believe it. I wasn't gonna just sit there and say, oh he's lying, you know. I, I wanted to believe them which is…I don't see anything wrong with that, you know? And if they ended up lying to me and hurting me, I was a fool for believing it. But…[she adjusts the camera] sorry…it's just, it just, it didn't work out, you know, and there's nothing I could do about it. I go into each relationship with the same mindset, I guess, and it usually fails pretty quickly, the signs start showing pretty quickly. And in this relationship I, like…it's like coming home, you know. I've said it so many times. Josh and I have actually been together almost a year already, and nothing has changed except that we're learning more about each other all the time. And we're actually closer and closer and closer. We're closer than we were before. And we're so comfortable with each other. We have, like, the best relationship, and I don't want my problems with social media to take that away. I don't want to have to have him check his expression if he's tired or the words that he says because they might get twisted and turned and people finding ugly stuff in everything he or I say or do. Our relationship doesn't deserve that.
And I never wanted to be a public figure in the first place. I never intended on it or tried to be anything other than what, what I am which is just a girl trying to live her life, you know. I made videos for my ex so he could see me just doing stupid stuff, saying hi or counting my piercings or showing what tattoos I had, like real dumb childish stuff. And then I started getting people following me, and so I started talking. And then I used YouTube as a sounding board.
And I never got into the…I really don't get into the whole putting music in the background. I've done it two or three times total, and the only time I actually liked it was on the Christmas video because it was Christmas music in the background. But aside from that I hate music in the background. I hate cutting and editing my words because if I've said it then obviously I want it to be said. I hate jump cuts. I hate over-editing. I just…it is what it is. You're gonna listen or you're not going to listen. This is my platform, this is my space to use, and if I want to have a 30 minute video or an hour video then I'll do it, you know. Nobody has to watch it.
I just don't want to live like this anymore.
And now that I'm here and I've got people I can see in real life, I've got friends that are close by, I've got a good friend that is close, and I've got some other friends that are close. I have an upcoming wedding. I've got, you know, babies to look after. And I've got books to read. And, you know, we've got places to go and things to do. And it's just I don't have time to dwell on petty people and their lies and their bullshit because they are sad and they're miserable and they're, you know, they're lonely and they've got nothing else. And, you know, being able to put a face behind a lot of their names, seeing who they actually are, it's just made the whole thing even more ludicrous to me because these people are not one to talk about other people. They're nothing special. They don't look like their lives are stable enough that they can sit on their high horse and judge other people. And it just goes to show you that they are truly miserable inside themselves because these are not actions of people that are happy with themselves or their lives.
And I will be the very first one to admit that I have made a whole bunch of mistakes in my life. I've made bad decisions. I've been a horrible person. I've said nasty things. But we live and we learn and we grow and we change and we evolve, and I've done that. I've done my fair share of that, wand I know I have. And I'm very proud of the person that I've become. And yeah, I might be almost 42 years old so, you know, maybe a bit late for self-discovery. But you're never too old to learn, you're never too old to grow. And as long as you live your life and you're not trying to hurt other people then I don't see what the issue is. You look the way you want to look, you dress the way you want to look, you do what you want to do. As long as you're not trying to take somebody else's free will away and you're not trying to bring somebody down, make them kill themselves, hurt themselves, hurt them, you know, you just live your life and do what you need to do to be happy within yourself, and I don't think anybody should tell you that that's wrong. It's what I do. There's so many people who say I'm too old to look the way I do. But you know what, what is it hurting you? This relationship doesn't hurt you. What I eat or don't eat, does that hurt you? If I want to move, if I want to live in a trailer, if I wanted to camp in a tent outside, how does that affect you? If I like Walmart and teddy bears and Taco Bell, how the fuck does that affect you? I'm not gonna be ashamed of the things that I enjoy in my life because there's nothing wrong with it.
There are people out there…I was actually watching a video with Josh today and I was like, you know what, why are they on the hate…why are they not on the hand sites, but I am? Like seriously, it's just, what the fuck. And it's the adult babies, you know. They suck on pacifiers and they wear their, their little baby pajamas and they carry around their stuffed animals and they talk baby talk. Daddy, where we going, oh oh there's a puddle, daddy, you know. But that's okay, right? I mean, that's okay, and people that act like that and that act like so many people I see that cross my feed when I was on Facebook, that I saw crossing my feed, and it's like, the things that these people would say and the pictures they would take and the things that they would do. But they're not on the hate sites.
But me, I am. And I'm one of the most popular people on there. For what? They have this, this version of me that's on there that they've talked up and up and up into this monster. And when people come on they're like, who is this Raven person? They'll be like, oh go check out her threads. And they'll read all this bullshit and they'll be, oh my god oh my god she's insane, she's like the worst person on here, holy shit that bitch deserves to die. And I'm like, you do know that everything you're reading is not true, right? You do know that they've taken everything out of context and they've twisted it and switched it and they've made me seem really bad when I'm not actually that bad. But they don't care because drama, drama is all that matters because anything to fill their empty little lives.
And like I said in my other video that I uploaded earlier today, I consider this a win for me because I'm still here. I'm living my life. I'm in America. I'm happy. I get treated like a celebrity around here. Everywhere I go, everywhere I go I get people stopping. Oh I love your hair, oh my god I love your piercings, oh my god I love your tattoos. FYI these piercings [points to her cheek] are the most popular piercings here. Everybody asks about them, everybody wants them. They're like, oh my god I drink so much, I love your tattoo, are you a tattoo artist, oh you look so amazing. And it's just become an expected thing. And they'll say, oh my god I love you so much. And Josh is like, everybody does. He's like, everybody loves her, everybody talks to her. And you know, it's just, it's such a good feeling. Like, I'm so happy here. I'm happy in general.
And I still get amazed by the prices of stuff. And we can go out and like, you know, oh my god there's catfish. And you know, I'm hooked on this grass-fed beef tenderloin. Like, I've been making that and it's just like, oh my god, it's so good, melts in your mouth. And fast food can't even compare to the shit that I cook at home. And he loves everything I cook, and so I cook and I cook and I cook. And, like, actually just yesterday I made him egg and sausage sandwich for breakfast and some scrambled eggs with cheese put in a little container for him to take to work to eat for breakfast. And then I made him two, like, melted cheese and turkey sandwiches for lunch, and he ate it all up. Makes coffee and everything. And yeah, I'm so domesticated now. But I can do these things for somebody that loves it and appreciates it. And it just, it just makes me want to do more.
And I'm just so happy, and my life doesn't deserve to be brought down by a hate site and insults and having to wonder every time I come online am I gonna come across this or this or this or that being said about me. And I felt more freedom in the past couple weeks than I felt in years. And I have his support and I have the support of people that I have personal contact with, and they have my phone number, I have their phone number or my email address or whatever. And it's just nice. It's really really really nice. And I can't see why I'd ever give this feeling up. That's why I'm so determined to have a good, like, a perfect goodbye video, why I got rid of the other one to upload this one because this is, like, my legacy. This is what I'm gonna leave behind. And if I were to die or anything were to happen to me, this is what people are gonna know, so this has to explain everything just perfectly. So that's why this is long, and that's why this has been redone. But I haven't had much happiness in my life, and I damn sure I'm gonna hold on to it with everything I've got, and I'm not giving this up.
This has just popped in my head. I just wanted to say…I'll take a picture and I'll put it in if I can remember to. But I was actually…I, I get laughed at for saying that I have agoraphobia because apparently I don't which people think that agoraphobia is how it is on the movies, where you can't go outside at all, and that's not true. Read up on it. I'm not going to go into it here, I don't have time, but I was actually diagnosed with that in 2008.
So I got my medical records today from New Zealand, and I was diagnosed with that, so that's in my records. Um, just thought I'd drop that off there and say that. [screenshot of her diagnosis] But everything I've said is true. I don't sit there and I don't lie and I don't turn, twist shit around. What I say is how it is. And if you choose to twist that then that's on you, and you need to get a life or learn how to listen to the actual words somebody's saying.
Lastly, I would like to close…second to lastly. Second to lastly, I'd like to close and say if you…I hate the fact that I have to say this again, because I know that I'm repeating everything I repeated in my other video but hopefully explained a little bit better. But only, like, less than 200 people saw that video so I'm hoping this one will hit more people and nobody will have really seen that one. But if you see any comments, posts, statuses, Facebook pages, death notices, whatever from me or Josh, do not believe it unless you see one of our faces saying that, oh my god Raven's dead, which would not happen because we've already had that talk. If I was in an accident or had a heart attack or something like that it would not be posted because I know that they'd run away with it and laugh. So if I ever or whenever I die it's not gonna be told to anybody, so just getting that out of the way. But it doesn't matter what it is, it doesn't matter what the date on it is, it doesn't matter what picture's next to it, what name is next to it. You can easily fake screenshots, you can easily make a fake profile, put somebody's picture by it and fake a conversation. Whatever you see from me or from Josh, unless you see us speaking it here, don't believe it because it will not be true.
I know what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen is they are going to still think that I'm watching everything that they're doing which I'm not. And then once they realize I'm not around and they have no idea what's happening in my life which is my win, by the way, because I can still do everything, but they won't know what I'm doing, they won't know anything, and that's gonna, that's gonna drive them crazy, you know what I mean. They've been following me so long there's, there's no way they can just break away from me like that. And I'm forcing them to break away from my life, and they're not gonna like that. They hated it when I did in 2015, and they fucking hated it when I moved here and I vanished to the point where they made profiles as me posting fake statuses as me pretending…I don't even remember what they said, but there's something about me and Logan and…or me and Josh, me and Josh broke up or I don't even know what the fuck. But they like to post as me and say that I say stuff just make me look worse. They do it to amuse themselves or to call me out or to convince other people that I'm a fucking monster. I've always admitted readily everything that I've ever done. Whatever mistakes I've made I've admitted to you. If I have said I didn't do something, I didn't do it. And having neither of us online able to defend ourselves or to intercept what might be out there, just a warning to you guys: don't believe anything you see unless you see a video. Then you'll know for a fact that it is me or it is Josh.
Now lastly, I would just like to say again once more I'm really sorry, you guys. I know that there are some really nice people out there, and I know that there are people that do follow me and now me and Josh because you genuinely do like us, relate to me, you love my videos, you feel like you know me and that you understand me and that I'm, I'm real and down-to-earth and everything else you guys have written to me. And you guys have been there for me, and you've helped me so much over the years. You've helped giving me a place to vent, to talk, to get advice. You've helped me with money to go, you know, to the funeral. You guys have, above and beyond, been there for me. And I'm really sorry. I've tried over the years to stay online just for you guys. But there has to come a time when I have got to put myself first. I have got to. And I cannot do this any more. It's not fair to me. And all that's gonna happen is we're gonna go around and around and around in circles, and they don't deserve my life. They don't deserve to use my life for their entertainment. They've had seven years. They're not gonna stop anytime soon. Every single suggestion that I've done, the fact that it hasn't worked has shown me that they're never gonna go away, so I choose to drop out of it, live my life, love Josh, and be happy.
Somebody did comment and say that they hope they get at least one wedding picture, so maybe towards the end of the year I might pop in with a video and show some pictures from our wedding. It all depends. We're actually gonna have two ceremonies. We're gonna get married first ourselves, and then later on in the year when we can get, like, the clothes and the rings and all that stuff we'll have a proper wedding with, like, his family and all that except that won't be a wedding, it'll just be, like, the ceremony, but we will already be married so the date won't count. But it'll be something so that we can include his family and everything. But um, we just kind of want to have the actual date just for ourselves. And there are people that are going to come see the wedding at the end of the year, but they know how to contact me which is cool. And there are other people that I hope will come that need to contact me, but if not it's still gonna go ahead, they're both gonna go ahead. And I might or might not post pictures or snippets or whatnot. It just all depends on my mindset, how I feel.
I've hidden most of my videos. I've taken away most of my Youtubes. My Instagram is gone. All my Facebooks are gone. I still have my email, but I don't check it all the time. And what else. Patreon is still there, but I only have two people left on there, and I haven't actually uploaded anything because when I was nobody was talking to me or responding, so it was kind of like a waste. And I have told both people that they don't have to, they don't have to pay, to send money, they can just stop at any time, no hard feelings. I don't expect, contrary to popular belief again, I don't expect people just to throw money at me, so they are under no obligation to keep paying.
I know that the hate sites have ways of getting into my videos. They've gotten into private videos before. And people have gone to my Patreon, paid, taken my content, and then left. And so that's not a very safe place for me like I thought it was which is why I don't use it. So I don't expect anybody to just give me money and do that, you know. It's just, it's there, but it's just there, you know. Hey, if I do post wedding pictures I might just post them there if those people are still hanging around. If not I'll just see how it all works out. I mean, I've got no plans as far as anything goes. The only plan I have is that I'm not gonna be online.
But you guys that have been there for me and are now there for me and Josh, you guys have been wonderful. You've been great. I'm really sad that this has happened to the point where I can't enjoy being online anymore. I can't enjoy being there for you guys. I've lost my platform, you know, my venting stage and all that stuff. But there has to come a point where you have to rejoin the real world anyway, and I've spent the last ten years living online online online and not enjoying real life. And it's about time that I, I go outside and feel the sunlight and enjoy just living a real life. It's long overdue. And I don't mind one bit. I do feel bad for the people that are gonna miss me because I've gotten a lot of comments on the other video that I didn't, you know, I didn't approve but I did read. And I, I don't know what else to say except that I'm sorry and I hope you guys understand. In the comments you guys do you understand. I'm gonna miss the cool people. Um, but I have to do what I have to do. Um, I apologize. I really appreciate everything you guys have ever done. I will think about you. You think about me. Don't forget me. Try not to forget me. And I might see you, I might not. I probably won't unless something really big happens. You'll just have to forgive me for that.
And just remember, don't be like them. Don't just try to hurt people, you know. If something is that wrong in your life, how about you try to fix yourself before you try to attack other people. It's just not a cool way to be. I mean, and I know when you're sitting alone by yourself and you're thinking deep inside, you've got to know it's wrong. There's no way you cannot know that what you're doing is wrong and really, really low. And I know that they don't believe that I'll be gone for good.
But I mean, the only reason I've uploaded this is because I want a proper goodbye video. I didn't do it because I want to be back online. I did it because I think that the people that follow me deserve a proper explanation and a proper goodbye, and so this is for them, not for anybody else. And here's to living the real life, being with the one you love, and getting away from hate. So take care, you guys. I don't really know how to end a video when I know I'm not gonna come back. It's really weird. Like, how the fuck do you say goodbye? I forgot how I even said goodbye in the last one. I think I was gloating because, um, I was saying that I was gonna live my life, and they will never know what I'm doing, and they're gonna be talking, but I won't be around. That's why I said, I said that they'll be yabbering and talking and I won't be around to hear it. And I was like, hahaha. Well, so just think of that. But I'm gonna be laughing because I know…it's like I, you know, what I picture is an anthill that you stick a stick into and they're all running around all crazy, like, looking for the disturbance. That's gonna be the hate sites, like, running around all crazy. Where is she, where is she, oh my god she's got to be online somewhere, I know she's watching, let's, let's do this and this and this and call her out. And, you know, they're going to be running around like chickens with their heads cut off basically, trying to get to me, and I'm not gonna be anywhere to be found because I haven't been. And I'm gonna tell my friends not to actually update me because nothing that they say, nothing that they do at this point can hurt me or take anything away from me. Like, Josh will never leave my side, I will never leave his side, and that's all there is to it. That is just…you can't hurt me anymore. And that's, that's true winning right there. I win, you lose.
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>>513588 see
>>513613That's why transcript anon requested space not because of some imagined self - importance but to provide a valuable contribution, which the majority of us are eternally grateful for.
Take a note from gravy and be as selfless and gracious as her, I mean she's just thriving..
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>>513621For being so grateful you sure are willing to contribute your irrelevant post.
Transcript anon could just repost the whole thing in the new thread, or link in a pastebin. I don't understand why they insist on everyone ceasing discussion for 2+ hours while they upload their transcript. Not that it isn't appreciated.
>>513619Does she use this as proof of her agoraphobia diagnosis? I don't think this is a diagnosis, just a write up of whatever symptoms she reported.
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>>513627>>513683I didn't "waltz off into the sunset." I had other obligations and ate lunch.
I wanted to get the transcripts posted in this thread for continuity since the videos were posted in this thread.
As I stated earlier, I already have the next OP written. I write each OP as events unfold.
In the past, every time she declared that she would be leaving the internet we let her thread max out and didn't post a new thread to starve her of attention until she reappeared.
On one hand, I have a few observations on her videos I would like to make now that I have finished the transcripts.
On the other hand, posting a new thread will fulfill her characterisation of us if thirsty anons start shitposting, posting fake screenshots, and weening out as has happened in the past when the milk has dried out.
On the third hand, someone on KF posted that they saw a video of Doja enjoying a walk in the sunshine, and it would be nice to keep up with the pup.
>>513684I notated in the transcript where they appeared in the video using [x].
>>513660He may have voluntarily deactivated his account but not without intense emotional pressure. She has been grooming him from day 1, and her blatant tactics were exposed in the leaked videos.
Another thread connecting him to his family members has been severed. Her mention of his family in the context of their wedding is the first we have heard her talk about interacting with them since Thanksgiving iirc.
>>513627Yeah, that's just a summary of self-reported symptoms, not a diagnosis.
I suspect that she is collecting her medical records in order to apply for SSI.
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>>513726Thanks for your work on the transcripts.
While there are no doubt multiple reasons, I personally am wondering if she's trying to make sure Josh doesn't hear about the extent to which she was cheating on Logan, having what, three? Online boyfriend at once3 and a real-life one coming over while Logan was at work. I have a feeling that information will really set Josh off, and by deactivating his profile he doesn't really have a way to hear of it.
It's nice to hear of Doja getting a walk but we don't need a thread about it imo. His life will now be with someone who is not Gravy. KF threads never end so there's a place to read and comment and react and kvetch.
It's been proven that if we hold back on a new thread in times of drought, she'll eventually re-emerge to try and get a new one in her honour. She just did that with these videos as we had let things go quiet.
As much as I'd like to talk shit in a thread, Doja going for a walk is not worth what we'll lose. Last time we chatted a bit in 'thread requests'
>>>/pt/486300 before the new thread was made once enough info came to light. There's no reason why we can't do the same this time.
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>>513610Raven's diatribe choked my text editor, and the edits I made in this section did not save. Here is the corrected version:
Ooo, it's like four o'clock in the morning, and I'm here making this video again. I'm really sorry if you guys caught my first round. I rewatched it a couple of times. It's been so long since I've like made a proper video. I was trying to rush all the information out there assuming everybody knew everything that was going on. And when I rewatched it, to me it didn't actually make a whole lot of sense. I felt like I left huge chunks out. And this video is going to be the last video that's up. So people that know me and people that don't know me, this is the information they're gonna be left with, and so it needs to be as exact and full as possible. I know I look really tired, and it's just because I haven't been sleeping lately and my insomnia has kicked in again. So excuse me ahead of time. That's not stress, that's just days and days of no sleep. Um anyway, so I'm gonna try to make this a little bit easier to understand, and I'm gonna leave out the background music. I tried to make a proper video like everybody else and have nice background music. And to me it's always really distracting because the background music overrides your voice, and it just it's hard to focus on one or the other. And I just wasn't happy with the video as a whole, so I'm gonna try again. Please bear with me. I am really sorry I have to put you through this again.
So, starting from the start: I am leaving social media. I have left social media. I have not been online for about two to three weeks now. I do not have any other profiles. I do not have any other pages. I don't have anything open at the moment. I do not plan on having anything open for the foreseeable future. I've got no desire to be back online. I've actually been having a really good time being offline. Holy shit, I look tired. And as far as I know, I'm gonna stay offline. Josh and I are both offline. We're both intending to stay offline.
Starting from the start, from the start start start, for those of you who don't know because I've removed most of my videos, I have been stalked and harassed and hassled and bullied and everything else by a few hate sites online called Kiwi Farms and lolcow. And then there are, of course, individual people that are either from the site or not from the site, but they do the same thing. Now, these people have all targeted me. They targeted me about seven years ago. And I don't know what it is that brought me under their radar. Something did, and I have not been able to escape them since. I didn't know that they existed at first. I only found out years later, when I was with my previous husband, that these sites even existed and that I was apparently very, very popular on them. I've gone through periods in my life where I wasn't necessarily a great person or a nice person or even a respectable person. You know, as we all do we grow and we learn and we change. And I've gone through many, many stages of growth in my life. And I've tried to listen to what they had said about me and use it to improve myself, improve my life. I try to take the positive out of all the negative. It didn't make a difference. Nothing that I did mattered. Nothing I did changed anything. They just kept on with the same old stuff, or they turned it around.
They said I was basically too fat to be alive because in New Zealand I'd gained a whole bunch of weight. I got weight-loss surgery, but apparently I'm undeserving of weight-loss surgery and I'm still a fat fuck and I'm disgusting. I'm old, I'm too old to look the way I do, dress the way I dress. But others are. It's apparently okay for them. Although I really think that they've got issues with gothic people in general because they, like, mock every goth person out there except for Adora Batbrat. They seem to love her, unless I'm missing something. But everybody else they can't stand.
And they didn't like my relationship with my son who is 23 years old and who was old enough to know better and to make the right decisions in life and to maybe not be so selfish. But he will not take responsibility for anything that he has done and instead has joined their ranks and has turned on me and also lied his little butt off with the help of the little girl that he is seeing.
They have called me a pedophile because my ex-husband was 19 years younger than me. Now, I am as of the date of this video, I'm 41 years old. I'll be 42 in [she counts] May, June…I'll be 42 in 4 months. And I have always had an attraction for people younger than me. I'm not a pedophile. I've never been a pedophile. There's no sexual fetish there. It's nothing sexual at all. I just, I've never felt my age for whatever reason, and I've always gotten along better with those that are younger than me. Some people like people older, some people like people younger. It's just a matter of taste. I've dated people my age, I've dated people older, and I've dated people younger, and I've just always gotten along better with the younger ones. Now, my relationship with him was very odd as far as the numbers and the ages went. And I tried to be understanding and say, oh I, I can see why people would have a hard time with it. But the fact is I've been out of that relationship for almost a year. I've left New Zealand, I've moved back to America, and I'm in a new relationship with somebody who is almost 32 years old. And I still get hassled and called a pedophile and a predator and all this other stuff. The proper definition for pedophilia is someone who has a sexual attraction for somebody who is prepubescent, and I have never been into children. Liking somebody younger than you does not mean that you are a pedophile. And I have taken the blame for that for our whole relationship, almost six years together, and I'm still taking the blame for it even now, even though I'm no longer in that relationship. So that has been an area of stress for me over the years, many many many years.
So my weight, my age, my motherly…my mothering skills, or lack thereof according to them, the way I express myself, the way I do my makeup, the way I dress, my tattoos, my piercings. Every single aspect of my life has come under fire. Nothing that I have done has taken the heat off of me. Ignoring them, not ignoring them.
I vanished offline in 2015 before I got my weight loss surgery, and while I was offline somebody made a fake page saying that I had killed myself. And my friends posted on there saying this doesn't sound like her, this is not Raven, she's still alive. And when that was posted whoever made the page came forward and said that they were me and that I did indeed make the page but I did it for attention or to see if anybody cared about me. And the hate sites say it wasn't them. It was definitely somebody. And they say that that was me, that was me, that was me. And I have stated on countless, countless occasions that I did not fake my death. My son says I faked my death. He knows better. I did not fake my death. What I did was I said, do not answer if I'm alive or if I'm dead, because I thought at the time that it would be a good idea if they did think I was dead. When the page popped up I thought that it was a good idea just to let it go because if they thought I was dead they would leave me alone, so I thought at the time. And all I did was to tell my husband at the time and my son, if anybody asks you if I'm alive or dead tell me who they are, I'll tell you if it's safe to tell them the truth, otherwise answer obscurely, do not let them know, that way you're not saying I'm dead, that way you're not saying I'm alive, and then maybe they'll just go away. And it did not work.
I have thought about faking my death. But I actually went as far as to call the newspaper and ask what you would need to post an obituary in the paper, and that's when I found out that you needed, like, a doctor's certificate, cause of death, and death certificate and all that stuff, so I would not legally be able to do it, and so that idea was scrapped. Soon after I called to find the information out is when that page went up, and so it fit right with what I was trying to do anyway. And I thought it would be a good idea and it would be way for me to kind of get off their radar. And it did not work that way. But I promise you I did not make that page, and I did not fake my death. That…that's also haunted me for years because apparently I did.
I guess that's the past all caught up pretty much. It's all you need to know is that I've tried to get away from it, I've tried to do everything anybody suggested, I've tried to see the positive in it. I've tried and I've tried and I've tried and I've tried. And this is now the seventh year of my life that they are stalking me. And if you go there and you go to catalogue you'll see I have more threads on there than anybody else. It's me me me. They take the most unflattering screenshots of me. And they just talk so much shit. They lie and they faked screenshots and they faked profiles and they faked conversations and they twist and turn the truth around.
For instance, Josh and I took in this eleven year old blind dog. And we thought we were doing a commendable, really good thing by saving this dog's life because we were the dog's only hope. Nobody wanted him. He's…he was old, he's blind, he came with a lot of health problems nobody knew about. And instead of saying, oh they're doing a good thing, they went off the wall calling the vet, calling the dog rescue, calling everybody, calling and emailing and facebooking to try to get the dog taken from us. They failed. Um, they, for instance, used something I said in a video, something that I said when I was about 13, 14 years old in a video that I uploaded about 10 to…9 to 10…7, 8, 9, 10 years ago. They tried to link to that, use that against me.
They took some statuses I made when my cat Marmalade was still alive and she had her kittens. They snipped parts of one of my statuses to make it look like I was selling kittens off to go out to dinner which wasn't what happened at all. What happened was those kittens were spoken for before they were born. And somebody picked them up I guess as a Valentine's Day present. And when this woman picked up her kitten and paid we were able to go out to Valentine's dinner that day because she happened to pick up her kitten on that day. But they were already sold, they were already spoken for. I mean, it wasn't like that at all. We didn't specifically just start selling off kittens. I mean, we tried keeping as many as we could, but in the end we knew either I was going to come to America, we were gonna come to America, we were gonna split up, and so we had to get rid of everybody. But I'm not going into that. I don't need to explain my past anymore. That's not what this video is about. This video is about filling in people that might not know what all has happened.
Um, so what else, what else, what else.
Recently, as you guys know, my mother has passed away. That's been really hard. I've got a lot of emotions happening in my head. I, I still…I'm not quite sure how to handle myself or what to do, how to deal with shit. Maybe that's why I can't sleep, I don't know. It still doesn't feel real. I'm still trying to cope with the whole thing myself. It just feels like I could just pick up the phone and call her at any time, you know. It doesn't feel like this has happened. I, I walk through the house and I'm like, she's gone, my mom's dead, she's gone, she's gone. And I just, I just can't really come to terms with it. It just doesn't feel…it's not, it's not a sentence you ever think you're gonna say, you know.
And right around this time, I think either right before or right after I found out, I was tagged in a status by somebody on Facebook,. And they were asking me and everybody else on their friends list who's mutual friends with this one guy to block him and to bash him for being a pedophile because this guy was in a relationship that had a five-year age difference. And, you know, I decided to speak up, not just to ignore it, but I wanted to speak up. And I said, you know what, I don't condone this, I don't approve of it, I'm not going to bully somebody for a five-year age gap, I don't think it's right, and I'm not gonna do it. I did not think that I would come under fire the way that I did. I thought I made a pretty valid argument. I explained my last relationship ish. I didn't go into great detail. I just said I had a 19 year age gap. I mean, it was legal and everything, but I did get hassled for it because he was quite young. We're not together anymore. I'm gonna pay for that relationship for the rest of my life I'm pretty sure. And I came under attack from one person because of that. And I was just like, I really don't need this right now. I did not ask any of my friends to go and defend me because if somebody defends me or comments on anything or sticks up for me or whatever it puts them at risk of coming under fire from the hate sites, so I usually tell my friends not to because I don't want to put them in that position. That's not what being a good friend is.
And this one girl who I've known since MySpace days…she really doesn't deserve a mention, but she's part of this whole story so that's the only reason I'm talking about her…she says she defended me but really all she did was say that she didn't condone bullying on her page or her friends list. I thanked her because I knew she was, in her own way, trying to stick up for me even though she did not name me or name the situation. I thought, well at least, you know, she's a friend of mine, it's still nice that she said something. And then I went offline. I had mentioned that I was gonna go offline and I did go offline after that because I'm like, I don't want to be drawn into this bullying, I don't want to be drawn into this drama, I don't need it in my life right now. I just, I'm just over all the negativity and the hatred online and the maliciousness and people being petty and the power trips. I just didn't want any part of it. I had announced that I was going to be going offline so it should have been no surprise. She popped up saying I fucked her over, I did something to her, I betrayed her, she should have known better. I don't know what the hell she's talking about because I didn't do anything to her. The only thing I did was get offline.
She apparently came under fire because she [air quotes] "defended me." And once she came under fire and she realized that I was no longer online to defend myself she put me on blast. And she didn't put me on blast by telling the truth. She put me on blast by lying. And the lies she told were complete doozies. Now, I caught a glimpse of what she was saying before I got offline. And after that I have a…I do have a friend around here that I've seen. I saw her yesterday, her and her fiance. We took…Josh and I took her out to dinner for her birthday. And she let me know kind of what was going on and that this person has gone around blocking everybody or blocking the profiles that they know about as far as what they have, and that they were going online trying to expose me and saying certain things. And the things that she is saying are completely off the wall. Like, that I wanted to sue Josh for the crash. And that Josh is a junkie, and he held me against the wall and had beaten me up because I wasn't actually injured in the crash, I was only getting medication to give to him because he's a junkie, and when I couldn't get more medication he kicked my ass. And that is so far beyond ridiculous. It's…I can't even laugh about it. Josh not only is not a junkie even though the hate, the hate sites like to say he is, he's some kind of druggie junkie. He does no drugs. He smokes, and he doesn't even smoke cigarettes, he smokes the Juul which is like a vape that I got him for an early Valentine's Day present. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he doesn't do any of that. He is the most nonviolent person you will ever meet. And he would rather walk in front of traffic than to lay his hands on me. I was indeed hurt in the crash. As you guys know I had a broken rib. I had a broken rib, bruising on my brain, bleeding in my liver, a lacerated kidney, and a partially deflated lung. [3 screenshots of her medical chart from the hospital] So you tell me how that's just whiplash and I lied about all that. I'm pretty sure I even had a video up where you can hear my rib cracking as I breathe because my rib was popping in and out. So those pills were for me, and I needed them to sleep because I couldn't move because my rib was broken. Um, I would not sue Josh. Why the fuck would I even think about that? And other stuff that I don't even want to get into.
She is so full of shit. Every single thing she said was a lie. And she has posted screenshots apparently of conversations we've had. I don't know what the screenshots are. I was just told that she's posting screenshots of things that were said, but that conveniently enough none of what she showed were any of the allegations of things supposedly I said. So all these really really really bad things that I supposedly said, she hasn't even shown proof of those. She's shown proof of things that aren't even important. So I thought that was a great big laugh. And I suspect that the reason she's actually doing all this, aside from the fact that she's a pussy and she can't actually handle getting talked shit about…welcome to my world, you know, whatever. I think that what it is is because apparently I used to talk to her boyfriend or fiance before they were together on MySpace many many many many years ago. And I don't remember him whatsoever, but apparently he used to have a thing for me. She told me this, and she's probably jealous because of that which makes no sense. And she also told me that he's been going behind her back talking to his ex-girlfriend saying that he loves her, she's the only one he's ever loved and wants to be with and all this. I was trying to be a good friend to her. I said, you don't deserve to be treated that way, you deserve someone who's gonna love you the way you love them, and maybe it's time to live for yourself instead of hanging on to somebody that obviously doesn't love you. And I said, whatever you decide to do I'll support you, I'm here for you because that's what friends do. And she stayed with him. I didn't ask her about it, I didn't judge her, I just, you know, whatever. I saw that they were still together, she took him back, and I just figured well, you know, she must either really love him or just really be desperate and…but it's not my place to judge because it's her relationship. And you can tell she's miserable because only miserable people do the kind of stuff that she has done to me.