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No. 7671
Kpop Critical # 15 - "Couples Edition"
Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.
· Don't sperg, complain or pick fights.
· Don't racebait.
· Don't fangirl, save that for the Kpop General thread here:
>>301262 · Don't derail about dumb shit. If it doesn't directly have to do with Kpop, don't post about it here.
· This thread is not about shipping or fangirling. Save that for the general kpop thread here:
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>>7684>>7686As much as I don't like Somi, I'm still worried that if she goes solo she might still have a chance. Just look at Sunmmi, she's not a good singer but she has the looks and lucked out with 3 good songs in a row.
I hope she falls by the wayside like Yubin
No. 7692
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>>7684Somi is pissed she lost because it would have been Miss A (Suzy and the girls) all over again, especially with that visual hole chaeyeon
No. 7694
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Is ITZY Twice 2.0 though? All of them seem to be counterfeits of other gg members. For instance this girl reminds me of Tzuyu.
No. 7702
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>>7694She looks like kyulkyung more than anything
No. 7705
>>7703I liked her produce 48 video. her nose is so sad though.
>>7704well most of trainees from sixteen have already left JYP. idk who else they could've chosen.
No. 7706
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>>7692This Chaeryeong girl looks like Twice's Chaeyoung, their names are also similar. Weird.
No. 7710
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>>7702Oh right she does. This pic especially. Idols are really morphing into each other.
No. 7712
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So sunmi used to look like this before she became a walking skeleton
No. 7729
>>7694Yeah they're trying too hard to go for the 2NE1 image and failing, because honestly JYP isn't good at making "badass" girl groups - WG and Miss A didn't have the "luxury swag" concept.
That said if they're real competition to Black Pink I'm all for them because they've been robbing an empty house with their "girl crush" image and I'd like to see blinks get salty when the inevitable fan exodus occurs
No. 7730
>>7681I don't doubt that Taeyeon and Yoona got better contracts, but I think Taeyeon at least signed a 2-year contract in 2017 and that was probably under immense pressure. I was expecting her not to renew after the Jakarta airport incident where SM let her face crowds with just one guard, but I guess SM's blackmailing worked.
They're not above using emotional manipulation to get people to sign contracts.
No. 7732
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>>7712nah she's always been a twig but did have a rounder baby face as a teen
No. 7734
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hansol scares the shit out of me. no wonder sm didn't debut him
No. 7741
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>>7734i always thought hansol looked like a more feminine version of yuta before they both fucked up their faces. when i first saw him as a rookie i thought he was the prettiest one around but now he looks downright terrifying.
pic related is him from his smrookie days
No. 7746
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>>7745I don't understand why she stayed. She talked about being confused when WG disbanded and I guess that plays a big part. But the other girls were right to leave, I guess Sunmi and YeEun already had their solo debuts under JYP and knew how much he stifled their creativity and potential. Yubin is probably only now realizing that pretty much any label would treat her better than this. Anyways, she renewed two years ago so hopefully, her contract isn't much longer.
On a related note, there's been reports about Sunye singing with a label and returning to Korea to make music. Way back in the day, Sunye was actually my first bia in the group but then she chose to become a missionary and a mother/wife over her group before her contract was even up… and now that everyone else has gone solo she wants a piece of the action? She has a life in Canada with 3 kids and has denounced fame before. I don't understand.
No. 7750
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>>7734he looks like the one girl from rainbow
this one
No. 7751
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i know these retarded channels have been brought up before but damn this channel always pops up in my recommendations and i literally don't even watch anything related to vkook, k-pop ships or whatever. i don't understand why armys keep whining about their poor boys getting their privacy invaded yet believe in and give clout to these channels where they make 20 minute analysises on every breath they take. like i checked out this fujo's videos to see if she actually makes a point but her editing is laughable and she doesn't even make any sense, she just tinfoils about how v is depressed because he drank water and looked skinny during a performance or how south korea supports them coming out because vkook is a popular ship in korea and 14 year old pansexual enby armys are crying in the comments because muh lgbt representation
No. 7755
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>>7699they look the same tho.
Sakura was so overrated looks wise it's crazy
No. 7757
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>>7755All of Izone has overrated visuals imo. They praise Hyewon (girl in pic) even though she is ugly. The laugh lines make her look so awkward to look at. There are so many visual holes with them its crazy
No. 7763
>>7762western fans perceive any woman who is unapologetic about hopping on a dick as some sort of queen or something
they did the same thing with sulli despite her questionable behavior
No. 7765
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>>7757Irene's got them too and she's praised like crazy
No. 7767
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so people have been accusing that one guy from suju of being a predator because he put his hands quite low on irene's back during a choreography… thoughts?
No. 7776
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>>7775he was praticallly jamming his dick inside the original singer…
No. 7783
>>7779leeteuk as a whole is just,,,, unfortunate.
I want to feel bad for him after seeing that clip of him talk about his fucked up childhood (and his dad eventually murdering his grandparents and all that) but thats obvs not an excuse for any of his pervyness, yeesh
No. 7785
>>7782this literally took a minute to search for and find, there’s more instances of her interacting with him just fine. wouldn’t be that convincing otherwise but it’s about irene and her fans claim she is terrified of men and doesn’t hide how much she hates being around them. if it’s so amazing that she ever seems okay around a man then… she seems fine?
i was surprised to see any news to do with him at all since i thought he was the one who had to miss some of the chile dates because he had enteritis? if that was a day he was there then the guy was probably just focusing on not shitting himself
No. 7790
>>7757>>7765Huh, I didn't know we still do this nasolabia thing.
well, this is lolcow
No. 7793
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>>7792This one is especially awkward
No. 7811
>>7767I was in that concert and I saw Irene dance with other guys with no problems, she was smiling and everything…. this is how the coreography goes, that's it omg
I get this thread is for critiques but this is so nitpicky
No. 7813
>>7793Isn't she like 15? God some anons here have such a vendetta against nasolabial folds and features like that, they are not even that noticeable since she's so young. You all sound like incels you ugly hags. I can get the hate for Hyuna or Jhope but come on, even Irene looks fine.
It just goes to show that people here hate the ps culture from kpop idols but you then give them enough fuel to feel like they need it, and then make fun of them even more. It's digusting. First threads were definitely a lot better before you jealous bitches came to nitpick on every female idol under the sun.
No. 7815
>>7814Maybe best to post on the General thread? Critical will shit on every video and call Scoops a hunchback over and over before talking about the song. I actually really liked it anon, I think Seventeen is a talented group but I will admit I've never checked their b sides much. I did like the chorus, it had that wholesome feel. Didn't care much for the "home" move they do with their arms during it lol kind of too literal.
Just to add to the critical before anons foam at the mouth, I really don't like the berets idols are using lately. It's just too anime bishounen for me.
No. 7819
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these kids are younger but taller than bts in average lol i want to see them standing next to them. half of them speak english too
No. 7829
>>7812Nice try Suju stan, but 20-something Leeteuk hitting on 14-year old Yoona and Krystal is not just SJWs being loud, it's creepy no matter how you try to spin it.
If it was, say, Heechul grabbing Irene's waist it'd clearly be a case of RV stans overreacting, but since Leeteuk is always fucking creepy it's natural to be suspicious of whether Irene allowed him to touch her or not. It's not a vendetta against old people, it's a vendetta against creeps.
No. 7832
>>7829So you're saying Heechul can touch girls, but Leeteuk can't?
Beside, its choreography - of course she allowed it. Dont act like she's 20 or something
No. 7833
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anons in this thread who said that they don't like the absolute masterpiece that is idol are just ignorant about korean and south african culture and you guys just don't understand how deep and genius it is..
No. 7837
>>7836I’m guessing you guys have never watched those Korean variety shows where fat men in their 40s will kiss girls that are practically toddlers.
Age gaps are not considered controversial in Korea and a grown man “waiting” to marry a girl once she’s legal is commonly accepted. It’s just like when western fans act appalled by sexist behaviour even though variety show hosts will literally hit female idols on their heads repeatedly during broadcasts both in Korea and Japan.
>2:55>Ye Eun literally has to pull the child away from the host >3:15 he goes to kiss her again, ye eun covers her mouth No. 7844
>>7813And i was talking about her blank expression not the nasolabial folds since anon above me mentioned about the awkwardness
>less about the lines and more about the awkwardnessI wasn't the one talking about her folds, and why do i have to explain myself it's lolcow dammit. Don't get so butthurt over silly things.
No. 7845
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>>7835honestly i don't think his issue is that he's ugly, just pledis keeps forcing the same pretty boy with lip tint makeup on him that they put on every other member and it really does not work at all. his features are too masculine as opposed to someone like pic related.
No. 7851
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his new forehead is too small
No. 7856
>>7837almost all asian men are pedo freaks and it doesnt make it any more ok
theres nothing ok about someone 18+ fantasizing about fucking/marrying/doing basically anything with a damn 13 year old
No. 7861
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>>7851He really did have a big forehead but his new implants look ridiculous. Also it is save to bleach fresh haur implants?
No. 7862
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>>7851Looks like doll's hair.
No. 7864
>>7849>>7856You guys are insane if you thought anyone was justifying anything. I have not seen a single person in this thread say that was ok nor did I make any attempt to imply that (it’s not acceptable under any circumstance wtf). That post was critical of the social behaviour demonstrated on public broadcasts, it’s literally backing up your point of culturally accepted sexism being an issue in South Korea, hence why some anons are concerned about certain men and the repercussions on the women around them.
Critical discussions don’t always require oversimplified complaints like:
>muh men are fucking creeps gross>korean idols r disgusting Sometimes you can just add to the conversation as an extension of a topic. Same reason I’ve seen other anons bring up that show where callers ask for advice on personal issues and unfortunately the guests often spew toxic bullshit at them instead of being any sort of real help, because it’s a symptom of a wider problem in Korea.
No. 7865
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>>7851>>7861His new hairline here looks fairly decent though? So what happened between then and now? That recent pic looks…like garbage
No. 7868
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>>7851You sure that ain't shopped? I found another photo of his forehead and it doesn't look like that
No. 7872
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hmm maybe he didn't get a hair transplant
No. 7876
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creepy fucker
No. 7898
>>7876how do these bitches tolerate that after buying a shit ton of albums to get in. I would've punched this bitch so hard, it'd have fixed his whole damn face.
no way in hell would i put up with that - even if i was brainwashed.
No. 7900
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>>7876this isnt creepy, its just sad because its obvious he cant see her and has to get a closer look to even know whats in front of him
No. 7903
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>>7876Imagine looking at him up close
No. 7908
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>>7874Some Armys are so desperate for western approval that everytime their oppas interact with anyone from the US they jump with joy. The don't care if is a C lister singer like Halsey.
No. 7911
>>7864i lost brain cells reading those anon's posts. how could anyone think your post was supporting those creepy korean men?
>that was a whole justification"whole justification" - this is why we dont want fucking dumb spergs from twitter here
No. 7915
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>>7855Lmao nope, Minho did it first.
No. 7917
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BTS' house retard will make his solo debut soon, can't wait for him to wail like he's being castrated while trying to hit high notes
No. 7919
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Sometimes off in this picture
No. 7925
>>7924It's not like a proper solo I think, just a single. Maybe it'll have an MV but I don't know whether he'll promote it or anything.
Regardless it will be a fucking trainwreck.
No. 7927
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>>7919Scoups looks like Grimes' long lost brother
No. 7929
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>>7917>It's another episode of "ARMY wants to talk shit about her least favorite BTS member but she doesn't want her twitter friends to know she isn't uwu ot7 so she comes in this thread and posts something no one but ARMYs would care about"You know, if it was an actual MV I could get behind discussing it but a fucking twitter video? You bitches are obsessed.
No. 7943
>>7913Why are you so paranoid. I only ever stanned girl groups and that was many years ago (probably gave myself away with that WG clip from 10 years ago).
>>7914Yeah most posts are either about (1) a specific member of x group being "ugly" (usually they look fine or it's a purposely unflattering shot), which begs the question why one would care so much about a random idol's facial features if not because they're invested either as fans or "antis" (forgive the term but you know what I mean)
(2) x idol is gay, lesbian, hates the opposite sex, or is autistic around the opposite sex, or is stupid for being caught dating or choosing to publicly date
If you deviate from calling out specific idols for any of these reasons then it's totally off topic, don't bother discussing the wider issues of plastic surgery in SK just laugh at how every female idol has the same face over and over again, don't point out any systemic problems within the entertainment industy because anon only wants to bitch about x company or x group, any comparisons are off topic. Like fuck off.
No. 7944
>>7942and where was OP criticizing and not being a hater exactly with that post? please enlighten me dear anon.
>>7943 There have been a few interesting, original discussions about the industry in a bunch of threads but they ALWAYS get drowned out by shit like
>>7908 and it's obvious that it's some ESL dumbass stan that is fed up that twitter's hated kpop group of the week isn't the one they hate.
Of course you need to have some certain level of investment on the topic to be able to discuss it but these anons just refuse to hide their power level and frankly I don't see why they would have to come here to make those posts they do. Literally just badly disguised stan speak.
(Derailing) No. 7945
>>7911Are you for real? I wasn't using "whole" in the stan twitter language, I was using it synonymously with entire, because it was an entire piece about how her idol wasn't a creep, every man in Korea's a creep (which isn't necessarily wrong, it is a culture thing, but the entire thing felt like a justification for Leeteuk's actions: as in 'he's not bad, he's just raised that way :(')
>>7864The complaints aren't unfounded, anon. And most of us KNOW that's its a cultural thing, I just question why you brought it up again. It seemed as if it was a way to defend Leeteuk as
>>7913 said. We all know it's a wider issue there, we were just talking about the specifics instances of that idol as we routinely DO in these threads.
No. 7947
>>7945I don't even know the specifics about Leeteuk. I know nothing about him other than he's from Suju. My knowledge of the group is limited to that 'sorry, sorry' song they had forever ago. I wouldn't have even remembered his name had you guys not brought him up.
>I just question why you brought it up again, It seemed as if it was a way to defend Leeteuk Already answered that for you:
>Sometimes you can just add to the conversation as an extension of a topicAnyways I won't make any more posts on this subject because I don't want to derail but you guys need to chill or else this thread will become an actual echochamber if you're getting paranoid over anons that agree with you in the first place.
No. 7952
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Looks like a lace front tbh
No. 7953
>>7950Technically they’re discussing the current state of the threads.
Anyway, why are some idols so poorly dressed in comparison to other members in their groups? Do their stylists hate them?
No. 7954
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>>7953i randomly remembered this irene's outfit (even tho she's not usually poorly dressed, it's just bad).
No. 7956
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>>7952SM idols always have the worst wigs/extensions and I don't understand why.
>>7953I mean that's kind of subjective. I remember Lisa stans always throwing a fit about her outfits for a while but I think I recall her saying she liked her them? Anyway, I don't think any stylist have a serious vendetta against their clients lol
No. 7958
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>>7953Kpop groups have centers and visuals, people they want to stand out more than the others. But, most of the times it's because the stylist has no fucking fashion sense whatsoever and one member just gets lucky.
No. 7960
I heard
>>7953stylist tend to dress the least popular members in the ugliest outifts for whatever reasons
No. 7961
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>>7958Blackpink's stylist are fucking shitty. They cut up expensive/beautiful pieces and call it fashion. Bonus: they hate Lisa.
No. 7971
>>7957yeah, that was during party so 2015.
>>7961>Bonus: they hate Lisa.again with this meme. don't believe the instagram stans.
No. 7972
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You guys can't have a discussion about terrible outifts without mentioning nct
No. 7973
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>>7971Anon, look at the shit they put her in
ik it's a meme but you cannot tell me they don't hate her ass kek
No. 7977
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>>7972It's a rite of passage for SM idols I believe.
>>7973..That's literally what her sponsor (Celine) gave her.
I think Jennies wrinkled Chanel dress and Jisoo's bulky blazer are worse. Again, this is subjective.
No. 7988
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So JYP is gonna debut three more groups in the next two years. Isn't too much?
No. 7994
>>7919This some shit you see out the corner of your eye when you got sleep paralysis
I really need these fucking stylists to stop putting red eye makeup on top of these too pale foundations
>>7988Does JYP realize that money isn't infinite no matter how big of a company they are? I mean Twice makes them a decent amount of money, along with like their 3 other groups, but where is the money to debut 5 groups coming from?
No. 7998
>>7995tHEY REALLY SITTING THERE ACTING LIKE IT'S NOTHING
He should be reported and arrested, not made to seem like a comedian. This is sick
No. 8007
>>7995this made me physically ill.
apparently a bunch of kpop fans on twitter are contacting the channel that airs this mess of a show. i'm glad they are doing something nice and productive for once.
No. 8008
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i don't know why SM is known for their visuals when they have monsters like these… not to mention the boy groups of years past
No. 8009
>>7995sage for OT
Honestly that show is just hard to watch in general, they make light of some actually serious topics instead of helping, and the hosts sometimes sympathise with or play devil's advocate for some really questionable people. I remember seeing one clip on YouTube of a son who says he doesn't think his dad loves him, with his dad fully admitting to prefer one child over another. It just feels so wrong seeing real problems made into light "entertainment"
No. 8010
>>7995"He's old fashioned"
Ew what? More like predatory. Did anyone in the audience question why he's diddling his kid for 10 minutes? Just because he's publicly announcing it as if it's no big deal doesn't mean he's innocent.
No. 8017
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>>7995The hosts literally laughed after the father said this. None of them thought that it's creepy or realized that this was an unnecessary thing to say, I mean it didn't explain why he had that moronic habit in the first place. What a backward society.
No. 8021
>>7995Oh my god as someone who also had an abusive father this made me feel fucking sick. That fucker literally openly told them what he's done but even if he didn't everything about how he and his son acts screams red flag as well. How the fuck do you talk about this on a national program? He is so obviously abusive, said what he's done himself and this is how these so-called counsellors react? That child couldn't even talk or look at people and said that he hates it and they can't even see how fucked up it is? I really hope some Korean lawyer in their mind sues them and an actual therapist helps the boy
I remember seeing some other clips from the show, there was another teenage girl who talked about how she was getting beaten by her father and literally no one took it seriously, it was edited with these dumb texts and effects Korean shows use. What the fuck is wrong with this show? I understand making a lighthearted show with people who have basic dumb problems but seeing domestic abuse victims and people with mental illnesses treated like this is just disgusting. It's sickening that domestic abuse towards kids seems so normalized
No. 8022
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>>8008This four look like clones.
No. 8026
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>>8023I found this one under that news. Seriously they need to stop with the whole uwu baby fantasy. It's sick af. He's 26.
No. 8029
>>8024Same poster, if you ignore the dumb animations and keep watching, actually 60% of the audience look shocked and disappointed as all the awful things he does keep rolling in, (20 minutes so far) and he even lies right on camera about how he "helps" her. Plus the hosts are disapproving of everything. So it is not as bad as it first looks (and they even introduce a member of government or something from Singapore who disapproves too.
This guy is super abusive, even making her clean while heavily pregnant, every thing he does is awful. Sexually harassing and groping her and even his own mother. Someone needs to beat some sense into him. The "kissing" his son while he is held down for 10 minutes is mighty concerning. It is ok because "they are mine". Like wife and child are toys to do whatever he wants with.
Overall, terrible but at least she could put this on tv and tell everyone
No. 8030
>>8025Jennie is going to top brand rankings again because of the buzz the breakup will generate.
Their management probably did this after seeing that nobody gave a shit about them dating - no angry blinks, no mad EXO-Ls (the possessive ones left around the Krystal era), no pressed media.
No. 8032
>>7995This is sickening. I knew that they laughed off abuse, but I didn't think they would do it even with sexual abuse and pedophilia.
I see kpop fans have made a #endhellocounselor hashtag, but aren't they all international fans? I'd really like to know what actual Koreans think of this.
No. 8033
>>8026This squishy baby narrative infantilizing these idols is so creepy. I doubt anybody would refer to an American guy in his 20s-30s as a ~smol chubby whiny lil baby owo~
This whole perfect idol thing has made these fans forget these guys are real adults, who likely do messy adult shit. The "he's so qt lil baby" image they use to protect themselves from this isn't going to change anything.
No. 8036
Whenever I scroll past that OP, I keep thinking that if they were non-korean celebrities everybody would have written them off as druggies already (which they likely are). But because they're precious k-dols they're so "woke, yas, slay, queen&king, couple goals,…".
Same with
>>8026Even if a let's say american celebrity would be a decade younger than Chanyeol people would already say he's either a pussy or rude/entitled for making a fuss about something so minor.
In the twitter thread of that hello counselor pedo scandal the top tweets are all saying "it's not a cultural thing". Yes it is! Why is it so difficult to grasp that Korea is a less than ideal country, that there are many bad koreans and that nobody does shit about that?! Parents beating their children, husbands/bfs beating their female partners, kids commiting suicide en masse either because of academic pressure or unimaginable bullying (not just namecalling, they're literally trying to beat classmates to death) has been rampant for decades already, and yet society always turns a blind eye to these issues. They don't give a fuck about their own people, and even less about some dirty foreign k-drama or music fans. But try explaining to a kboo that their Oppas are not innocent and soft and so much more gentle than the boys in their countries. "Koreans are kind, they respect elders and help each other!"…
Making fun of idols and their orbiters kind of stopped being funny; it's just sad.
No. 8041
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homegirl looking like a fish
No. 8043
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what the actual fuck was going on with his hand
No. 8053
>>8043>>8052Yes. But this is old, it has been posted before.
And poor baby Jungkook survived this brutal injury, so let's not freak out…
No. 8054
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>>8053Idk what it is but it looks pretty weird. Makes me remember of Daehwi's ear starting to bleed during a performance and it was cause by his earbuds or something like that. Some other members reacted immediately when they noticed it which is shocking for k-pop
No. 8062
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>>7995Imagine if this was on American TV. They would’ve arrested this guy on air. I don’t understand why they would have people with no education on these kinds of topics to give advice.
No. 8065
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Top kek V was left out some shitty tribute video and now armies are throwing a hissy fit and saying that big hit has some vendetta against the autist.
No. 8066
>>8038if you ask westerners the "scandal" they're hiding is apparently irene being a lesbian, possibly with jennie lmao
seeing so many people project their weird "irene hates men and is a proud feminist/misandrist" fantasies onto her now and its getting really annoying
No. 8068
>>8036>>8037Basically this, Koreans are the new fetishized ethnicity and give crazy stans an outlet to dehumanize idols as they please so even implying that there is fault in their culture will get you dragged by kboos, if the twitter didn't make that statement kpop stans would swarm her calling her racist or something (not even mentioning the child or subject at hand that was abused) and clearly this is an apparent issue in the kpop fandom that no one wants to talk about.
Then again once kpop's international appeal dies out they'll mass exodus to anything similar that gains traction and see the same thing again.
No. 8081
>>8071Who directed this and why does she look like a cringy ghost?
>>8074This actually reminded me of Ariana. She said love me harder at 1:06, which is an Ariana song. And honestly this sounds like a dangerous woman reject.
No. 8082
>>8081kek at Dangerous Woman reject. Tiffany is so fucking cringey, idk who told her she looked good trying to be sexy but it just doesn't work. I truly think she should have just gone the irrelevant MC/show host route instead of trying to make some sort of an
American solo singing career for herself.
Am I the only one who has realized that the GP doesn't even respect the so-called 'legendary' SNSD anymore. All of this time, I thought they were 'legendary' to the public for songs like Gee, Oh!, RDR, Genie, etc, but I guess the recent comments towards SNSD members in their solo ventures reflect the attitudes towards girl group members after their time is up. They're no longer the "Nation's Little Sisters" or whatever gross peso shit they can come up with to infantilize them. The only member who gets positive comments is Yoona but she's nowhere near the level of fame in the public eye that people (Sones) thought she'd have years ago.
And I apologize if this is all irrelevant, but girl groups truly have the shortest shelf-life, no matter how fans try to make excuses, "Oh, they're still popular!" AOA has fucking tanked since Heart Attack, EXID kinda died after Ah Yeah, Girl's Day was popular for like a year maybe. It's basically a known fact at this point that being an idol is just being a puppet for years and then being left with no education (except if you "study" Acting or Music at some "university" like they all do kek). BP and Twice fans act as if they've surpassed 2NE1 or SNSD, which were far more influential in their time, and yet 2NE1 and SNSD don't have the longevity of solo careers afterward. Twice already has that same pedo-bait image, and once a scandal breaks out, or when they've gotten too old, they're done for, unless they somehow pull an APink and keep trudging on, but idk. Seems like 3rd Gen Kpop fans don't realize that this is gonna be their idol's reality soon.
No. 8083
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I dig this song but I lose my shit every time I watch the video. Sorry if this was covered before.
No. 8085
>>8083I meant to sage this, sorry.
>>8084Lip and Hip by Hyuna
No. 8094
>>8082It is a weird feeling to see that snsd is pretty much like..not even a thing amongst kpop fans anymore.
They were THE biggest girl group and everyone considered them the nations gg even(except for fans of male groups that thought the girls got too close to their oppas) and now they basically arent even acknowledged. Its almost sad in a way even though Im not a fan. It really shows how fast time goes go by and things change. But kpop is weird now anyway. Seems like Twice is really being pushed as the new nations GG, and they have non korean members and were formed on a talent show. Really just weird.
No. 8097
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well, looks like it happened.
No. 8103
>>8094It happens. TVXQ are still selling 100,000 seat Japanese concerts, but they aren't the fad that they were anymore. Their last Korean comeback didn't even chart. Big Bang has been overtaken by BTS, and in the future some other boygroup will overtake BTS.
>Seems like Twice is really being pushed as the new nations GGAll they have now are rabid Japanese fans tbh, their title tracks haven't had that universal public appeal like TT or Cheer Up did. They're Kara 2.0 basically.
No. 8105
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This isn't suprising at all.
No. 8107
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>>8105That’s so sad. Not to be a stan but I’ve always found him as the most handsome member of exo. I don’t think he’s had any big surgery to fix himself up tho. If you see his pre debut pictures, you kind of get it. SM recruiters really do see diamonds in the rough.
No. 8114
>>8111>>8113Same fag but here is the actual interview source.
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/0So5sKS0ez880HZpihAM_g its in chinese though
No. 8117
>>8110The only groups AKS actually care
about are the 46 groups and it really shows. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was a left over from one of the other 48/46 groups.
No. 8121
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>>8105a trainee who almost got into SNSD, Stella Kim, had something similar to say about the bodyshaming that goes on at SM
https://nextshark.com/stella-kim-snsd-interview/ No. 8131
>>8130But the 13 year old girls' money is what most companies are chasing. Lots of artists who do well digitally, like Melomance or Bol4 or Ailee, are only as relevant as their last hit song. They likely won't make much money from songs alone. The only real way to make any money is through CF deals, album sales, and concerts - all of which only artists with a fandom get to have.
I doubt Hyuna's druggie image is landing her any CF deals and she was never a beauty like Sulli (who continues to land deals on her looks alone) and her last song barely charted. I don't want her to fail but let's be realistic, her time in the spotlight is almost over.
No. 8133
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Jimin from AOA straight up looks like a skeleton
No. 8136
>>8132definitely not middle aged men. older women, sure but they're still a small audience.
>>8131there's korean pop music outside of the idol world, anon
No. 8143
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>>8133What happpened? She looks like Mary Kate Olsen.
No. 8151
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>>8133Actually depressing because she was actually cute on unpretty rapstar and that was only like 3-4 years ago
No. 8156
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>>8154Where's Chris Hansen when you need him
No. 8169
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I think edawn looks like Steves from people just do nothing? Just an overall crackhead vibe
No. 29117
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rap monster’s english is so fucking cringy omg
No. 29437
>>8154I know kpop groups are desperately trying to get attention but I can't understand why anyone thought this would work.
>>8150when have the even spoken about female empowerment anyways? the only thing I remember is that song 21st century girls but that song is just laughable.
No. 29456
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i know this has been said so many times and it doesn't add anything new to the topic but RM's face is so punchable
No. 29572
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Ok what the fuck
No. 29582
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it's kinda sad how much she's damaged her face, she was kinda pretty when they first came out
No. 29587
>>29582i used to find her the prettiest member; now she’s the same brand of plastic as taeyeon and jessica.
red velvet’s visual charm (imo) was that the members all had very distinct looks from each other and stood out in their own way; nowadays wendy looks like your typical surgeyed up kpop barbie
No. 29588
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who allowed this
No. 29590
>>8146>the following lyrics, which RM wrote: “Yeah, you’re the best woman, the best vagina / So good are you at doing it, the best vagina / But now that I think about it, you were never the best / I will stop calling you best and instead call you gonorrhea.”Ah yes, the talented genius rapper went all out I see.
Did his feminist professor help him out with this one too?
No. 29592
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>>29582Yeah. Starting with ICC Dr. Kim really did a number on her face. I'm guessing they were trying to lean into this "rich foreign exchange student" aura she was assigned to. The plastic surgery wasn't as obvious as it is now because of the bleached hair and overall styling (and because it was fresh) but the problem with these extreme procedures such as a jaw shave is that it requires constant maintaining which ups the risk of fucking up.
Not to armchair too much but with her fluctuating weight and plastic surgery girl seems to be very insecure. Shame because I really liked her kind look she had when she first debuted and she's undoubtedly one of the best vocalists of her generation.
>>29587>red velvet’s visual charm (imo) was that the members all had very distinct looks from each other and stood out in their own wayFunny that you say that because literally all people would talk about during their debut was how similar they all supposedly looked.
No. 29606
>>29605What is everyones thoughts on this video? It was linked in the video the anon posted and it explain the hello counsellor situation in a sort of cultural point of view.
My issue is they and other people a like keep saying that touching/playing with kids penises is normal in korean culture but why would you want something borderlining pedophilia apart of your culture in the first place…
No. 29618
>>29606It's incredibly upsetting and fucked up that someone would choose to bring a pedophile man who abuses his kids and his wife to a TV show so the audience can laugh at the situation. The mother needs to divorce him and he needs to be far away from her and the kids, perhaps in jail.
The culture stuff is just an excuse for abusers.
No. 29626
>>7671>>29606yes something being part of a certain culture gives it context but that does not free it from criticism.
ive noticed its mostly non-koreans pulling the culture card though lol how absolutely cucked do you have to be to be willing to excuse pedo shit for another culture just so you can continue to jerk it to your korean idols in a peaceful mindset? call me when this show gets taken off air and the man is in jail.
No. 29628
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lol is his favorite artist picasso now or something
No. 29629
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>>29628That feel when your oppar can't paint for shit.
No. 29631
>>29627Its kinda funny how its considered racist to critique a certain aspect of a culture but patronizing and speaking over the people of said culture is… woke. I guess!
>>29628Well what was his favorite artist before then, army-chan?
No. 29638
>>29637That is kind of weird, I wonder what the beef is.
Aren't Fansites some of the biggest cashcows for Idol groups?
No. 29645
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>>29639Hey, but at least he's got one of that little french artist hats! Next thing he's going to try and grow a mustache
Also, their fans always whine about them being overworked, meanwhile Oppars have time to replace every single bone in their body with plastic and make meaningless "art"…