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No. 1571083

General conspiracy thread. Discussions surrounding government coverups, entertainment industry secrets, predictions, political intrigues etc, are all welcome here.

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No. 1571090

>>1571083
Love the threadpic kek

No. 1571742

I think criminality is on the rise because they are allowed to pass on their genes.

No. 1571754

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How accurate is this?

No. 1571767

>>1571754
Not sure what the conspiracy is here? That big channels growth/reach isnt organic? Its the same with practically ever other celebrity.

No. 1571768

>>1571754
I fucking hate this son of a bitch. I also hate how his tactic is showing no personality at all and milking good-deeds for views as a shield. You cannot criticize this retard anywhere because ''he does gopd things'' while fucking turning said good things into videos to be milked for views and polutting Youtube in the process. I fucking despise modern corporate internet.

No. 1571885

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>>1571083
Pharmaceutical industry tinfoil: doctors pretend that they don't know how SSRIs work to hide the truth about GABA. People are aware the serotonin reuptake explanation is bullshit, but so far seem unaware that "hard to quit" SSRIs like sertraline cause elevated GABA, which then drops off a cliff when the dose is reduced or stopped. GABA inhibits the body's nerve signals, reducing their strength, which has the effect of calming emotions (reducing anxiety), numbing sensations (causing sexual dysfunction in SSRI users), and making it more difficult for a seizure to begin. A seizure is like a chain reaction of nerves firing in the brain when they shouldn't. "Brain zaps", which are barely acknowledged by the medical industry but well known by SSRI withdrawal victims, are actually mini seizures caused by an acute absence of GABA in the brain. The electrical signals are massively strengthened since your body is used to fighting through a haze of artificially boosted GABA, so a small area of the brain "lighting up" can quickly snowball into a thunderstorm in the brain. This can cause actual seizures/unconsciousness (which doctors totally deny) as well as dysregulated and excessive emotional responses, hypersexuality, hyperawareness, and over-intense bodily sensations (warnings for these are actually on the medication leaflet). It's unknown whether this causes permanent damage to the brain, but these withdrawal symptoms can last months or even years after the SSRI is totally withdrawn - your brain physically recovers from quitting nicotine, heroin or alcohol much quicker than this. Which is great news for doctors, since they can happily tell you that since you quit SSRIs WEEKS ago now, this must be your original "illness" returning! You're so mentally ill, so sensitive! Better fry your brain even more with a different SSRI so it's even harder to overcome withdrawal next time!

Tldr: the medical industry is creating lifelong SSRI customers by training their brains to require ever-increasing amounts of GABA to function, with totally unknown long-term effects.

This said, please don't quit your SSRI cold turkey nona, this is the absolute worst way to do it since your GABA level crashes. People die from this, although we're told it's suicide. You need to slowly reduce the dose, even when you're at incredibly low doses, going from like 25mg to 20, then 15 a week later etc.

No. 1571889

>>1571885
I've experienced brainzaps on both lexapro and effexor and I felt like I was dying at some point from the other side effects tbh

No. 1571890

>>1571889
Don't actually do this, since it can give you a seizure via OD as I discovered accidentally which was terrifying, but if you chew up or suck on a Zoloft (sertraline) it numbs the inside of your mouth for hours, since the way it works is to stop nerve signals. You don't need to be a scientist to observe this, but nope, we have nO iDEa hOw tHeY WOrK kek

No. 1571895

>>1571890
dw anon I won't stop cold turkey but I know I'm not the only person who experienced these effects when skipping a dose or two. I was young when I started I wish I was more informed then.

No. 1571900

>>1571768
I agree. I have never seen a less interesting person or group of people if you include his friends that are in his videos. I have no idea how people can sit through his content even if he does technically interesting things

No. 1571906

>>1571895
Same here anon, in the 2000s and 2010s it seemed like every other 13yo was starting Prozac and none of us were warned about withdrawal, in the UK at least. When I was that age I assumed all medications were like ibuprofen, they work for a few hours & then go away, and not one doctor told me different. They framed any side effects or withdrawal symptoms as worsening mental health, which was your fault for not taking the pills.

I believe this is linked to the trans cult: whether on purpose or not, doctors created a generation of people whose brains have been chemically stripped of resilience and the ability to self regulate. People who have been trained to rely on external sources of nervous regulation are wide open to addiction, whether that's to testosterone, opiates, surgeries, ssris etc. You just have to convince them it was all their idea. Lifelong pharma paypigs.

No. 1571908

>>1571768
I hate that fucker too, it's disgusting how he makes his videos and even the thumbnails scream "look at me I'm a good person tell me I'm a good person see give me the views and money". Also this might be a stupid question but how the fuck does he make his money? You could say it's from YouTube now that his videos are super popular among kids but he started out with these kind of videos and I remember people being suspicious because there's no way some random guy can just gift cars and money to strangers.

No. 1571920

>>1571885
I suffer from seizures due to a neurological condition. My NHS therapist was trying to get me on SSRIs and when I switched to private healthcare the doctor told me that could've been very dangerous for me because of the withdrawals and my pre-existing condition. Fucked up how doctors just… don't fucking care any more. Feels more like they're drug pushers rather than people trying to genuinely help you.

No. 1571941

>>1571889
This is why I decided to stop taking antidepressants SSRI. I had terrible brain zaps and night terrors everytime I skipped a dosis. I did it by reducing slowly the dosis I needed. My sleep is so much better now too.

No. 1571955

>>1571885
I've had zoloft withdrawal when I forgot my meds on a trip and it is a nightmare. Brain zaps, shivering, dizzy, blurry vision, constant feelings of dread, muscle aches, etc. The meds I was on before that should never have been given to me gave me brain zaps constantly, especially as I fell asleep. Horrible feeling. I got zaps that would make my left arm numb, when I told the people who gave me the meds they didn't care, really. I would get brain zaps and flinch if there was any sudden noise, no matter how loud, and if there was a sudden lack of noise, like if things suddenly went quiet. How the fuck? Anyway I like zoloft, it works well for me, I know the thread will likely tell me I don't need it but everyone in my family's on anti-depressants, including my dad and uncle. I think my aunt is, too. Also it did kill my libido, but my libido has since returned. Also if I miss a day or two, I don't get severe withdrawal, but after three days no meds it gets nightmarish.
>>1571908
Why do his thumbnails look so creepy, with crying children ?

No. 1571960

>>1571920
This is interesting nona, I'd like to know what neurological condition you have if you don't mind sharing? Asking because I was wondering about a potential link with hormonal birth control & migraines with aura. Youre only allowed the progesterone only pill if you have a history of migraine with aura due to "risk of blood clots" - this might be true, since hormonal BC is known to raise your risk of dying of all sorts of things including heart attack and stroke - but it's also known the progesterone only pill causes depression and anxiety. I know many women myself included who suffered from migraine with aura at onset of puberty but who were also slapped with a depression/anxiety label soon after and pressured on to progesterone BC + SSRI by 13. Needless to say, this absolutely ruined these girls' mental health, within a few years they seemed to either escape the NHS and recover, or been hospitalised multiple times, ruined their education and set themselves up for a life of medicalisation and troondom in some cases. It's so creepy looking back, what did they think was wrong with us? Why did they think 11yos needed BC?

No. 1571992

>>1571955
Nonnie i mean this in a nice way but it's only working for you as long as u wanna take it… If u ever want to stop it those withdrawals will fuck you up

No. 1572109

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The sudden and drastic change in the narrative surrounding Ukraine among western liberals was truly eye-opening for me, It revealed how easily people can be swayed

No. 1572204

>>1572109
yeah it's crazy how people care about a country being invaded when it's a white country.

No. 1572255

>>1572204
It's not that, don't you remember everybody screeching over Hong Kong? Nobody even knew where Ukraine is. It's that the media is pushing it because the big Boogeyman Russia is involved. You can get every single boomer alive to believe anything as long as evil Russia is involved. They lived through the Soviet Union era.

No. 1572265

>>1572255
most people where I live knew where Ukraine was before the war, because we learn at school about the Chernobyl disaster also about Soviet union. are you american by any chance?

No. 1572279

>>1572255
Just because you're a retard that doesn't know geography doesn't mean everyone else is ignorant. Europeans have more knowledge about Russians than retarded Americans,we share a land border ffs.

No. 1572297

>>1572109
It's also concerning how recently mainstream Western media has produced caricatures of Russians that are honestly just kinda racist.

No. 1572302

>>1572297
not to racebait but russians are white.

No. 1572305

>>1572279
kek don't try to pretend it's just ameritards, people in my country that shares a huge fucking border with Russia literally just remembered Ukraine exists the day Russia attacked and now people who two years ago didn't even know Ukrainian is a language different from Russian are gushing about Ukrainian culture on SM. I'm not defending Russia but some of the most passionate Ukraine sperging is embarrassing, like okay you made UKRAINIAN borsch and posted about it on twitter, wow what a good person you are.

No. 1572310

>>1572302
Okay, Its still racist and offensive.

No. 1572315

>>1572297
Knowing how much anti-western (especially anti-american) propaganda has always been present in Russian culture, both soviet and modern, I don't see why it's so concerning. That's without mentioning how they usually depict or talk about people from former soviet countries and even their own federal subjects. Don't worry about them nona, they should appreciate this type of humor.

No. 1572320

>>1572305
Yes, people don't usually think about a country unless something important or big is happening there. Ukraine in general was a pretty quiet and insulated country, but even years ago people were talking about what was happening in Crimea. Maybe you should read some newspapers or talk to other adults more often. I don't see you complaining about whatever happens in Azerbaijan because you don't remember it exists either, retard.

No. 1572323

>>1572310
okay Svetlana, I'm sorry your country is a warmonger.

No. 1572325

>>1572315
they literally shit on everyone on their media then get surprised people don't like them either lmao even before Crimea, Russia was known for dishing but not taking it.

No. 1572328

>>1572320
Alright, have a good time virtue signaling about your borsch, dragotsennyi.

No. 1572329

>>1572328
didn't take very long to out you. I hope your relatives all get conscripted and die in the war kek

No. 1572332

stop infighting retards or the LIZARDS WILL WIN

No. 1572333

>>1572323
>>1572315
I'm not Russian, most people outside Western Europe and America don't see Russians as the Ultimate Evil, for us in the last 75 years all we have known is that America is the biggest bully in the world and we don't need any sort of propaganda to know that

No. 1572337

>>1572333
it's true, american's biggest bullies are their own countrymen, both corpos and government.

No. 1572361

>>1572333
Those who know what Russa really is are its neighbors, Western Europe and America don't really get it. That's without any propaganda, too. I'm not going to idealize USA, but I don't get why people with anti-western sentiments have to go into denial when it comes to Russia, like it's totally harmless and is only "demonized" for no good reason. Only shows that you know very little and not particularly interested to know either.

No. 1572406

>>1572361
Because for most of the world, Russia never colonized their nations and actively helped many post-colonial countries, for us Russia is some one who stands up to the biggest bully in the world, loses and gets back up

No. 1572449

Russia sucks they can't even take care of their own people. Last time i heard the mothers got towels and a fish for their dead sons jesus christ. They have nothing to give yet want more and more land to spread poverty and alcoholism. The only eastern euros who love russia are old people who liked climbing into assholes and snitch for rewards, disgustang, luckily they are dying out.

No. 1572452

>>1572449
and yet they've survived every time, you gotta give them that at least.

No. 1572474

>>1572406
russia absolutely tried to colonize every single neighbour it has and it is still trying to this day kek

No. 1572500

>>1572302
How is racial prejudice nullified by skin colour? Because whites have colonised? So has every other fucking skin colour. Same with slavery. Yeah, white people don't suffer from racism as badly as others in the west, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. That's literally Twitter logic.

No. 1572520

>>1572297
You cannot be racist to Russians LMFAO

No. 1572581

>>1572520
You can be racist against any people.

No. 1572623

>>1572500
But Russians aren't despised for being white. And that video has nothing to do with racial prejudice. You could say it's bigotry or something, but it's not about a race. "Non-slavic" people in Russia have it tough though. Ridiculed in media, hated by white nationalists even though Russia colonized historically non-white regions and drains their resources and doesn't care for them, which makes people from there go to bigger Russian cities to earn something, which doesn't make slavic russians happy, so they will openly say in their rent ads that people with non-slavic appearance aren't welcome.

No. 1572631

>>1572623
>bitching about russia making fun of nonwhites in the country
I encourage you to look up where the word slav comes from. But you still wouldn't change your narrow American centric tier views on history.

No. 1572688

>>1572631
Anon there're few different hypotheses and they have nothing to do with slavery if that's what you're alluding to. Do you think people would call themselves slaves? Slav, славянин (slavyanin), Slověninъ is a self-designation. Look up words слово/slovo and слава/slava (although there're other possible origins). What do you think names like Vladislav and the like mean? Vlad the slave? Slave named Vlad? Slovenia is a country of slaves? I feel like someone with broad views on history would have broader understanding of etymology.
>russia making fun of nonwhites in the country
Oh yeah, blatant bigotry that actually affects someone's lives is just making fun, no biggie, and bunch of white people making silly cartoons about other group of white people is a disgusting case of racism that is seriously concerning.

Although you know, as a white Slav living in a Slavic country, it's actually tough, that slavery in medieval times, oh man, feels like it was just yesterday.

No. 1572972

>>1572688
ily based Slav-chan

No. 1573132

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No. 1573467

>>1572688
slav-chan is my favourite chan

No. 1573768

>>1573132
what's the tinfoil here though? Big pharma damaged people's brains on purpose, or is it that they didn't care whether they damaged brains as long as the vax "worked"? Some people theorise that long covid is also caused by the vax but how does disabling a huge % of the world benefit the Powers That Be? imo there are millions of covid vaccine-injured people out there, me included, but I don't understand why some anons (idk if you are one nona) think we were hurt on purpose, to fit into a grand evil scheme, when an accident/carelessness/collateral damage being acceptable makes much more sense as an irl explanation. If it was on purpose, then why would you give world leaders and the rich priority access to a vax that you designed to kill or disable them, when they're the most valuable humans out there to your pharma corp?

No. 1573770

>>1571754
so is that why they turned the one into a tranny. need to reach a new market for more growth

No. 1573788

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>>1573768
The overarching theory I've seen is because of the finite resources to sustain large, dense populations, particularly in non-poor countries where the most money can be made. A lot of it is connected, for example oil, gasoline, helium, fertilizer, all can be sourced together, and if it reaches a certain point there is no replenishment that will happen fast enough. What does a world run on oil look like when it is prohibitively expensive? What does a world that relies heavily on feeding itself through harvested fertilizer look like when crop growth slows and food prices run high? What does trade look like, what does casual spending look like, that sort of thing.
This link is heavy tinfoil but it and the hashtags on it explain one of the theories, to answer your question, as to why there may be a reason to dispatch part of the population.
https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1656239797034430464
but also, i couldn't find a tweet or link that fit this aspect but, if you, as a pharmaceutical company, cripple someone with medical products, you now create a customer for life. many countries already have that built into their system, poor diets low activity and obesity, hospitals and physicians promoting medical intervention when it is not needed, hospitals feeding diabetics garbage food, hospitals not having any fresh fruit or vegetables or whole grains on their menus, and so on. the phrases "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" and "let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food" have a lot more validity than is taken from them.

No. 1573811

>>1573788
Thanks for your reply, I guess I overlooked the obvious kek

>>What does a world that relies heavily on feeding itself through harvested fertilizer look like when crop growth slows and food prices run high?

Well, it looks like this world, I'm a britbong and it's already so bad here that our fat-because-theyre-poor fat people are getting skinny. I have additional tinfoil about vax + food that ig is less tinfoily than I thought… anecdotally, it seems like long post-covid vaccination syndrome (info about this here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9833629/#sec-3title) causes hypersensitivity to common allergens, and in a lot of cases this is nickel. Nickel is abundant in many highly allergic foods, like soy, nuts, legumes including pea protein, oats and shellfish. Nickel allergy is only recognised as a skin contact allergy by the corrupt NHS, but since covid there's so many people with obvious symptoms of SNAS, the more extreme version of nickel allergy that's triggered by food and inhaled nickel, that happens to have identical symptoms to LPCVS. "Coincidentally", due to wheat and sunflower oil prices and shortages, almost all food in the UK now contains soy flour and/or soy lecithin. I can no longer eat soy and despite not being poor, I have only found ONE brand of bread that doesn't contain soy, apart from a McDonald's burger bun weirdly enough. Even one bite of food containing soy will fuck up someone with SNAS (and/or LPCVS…?) for weeks, but in the UK if you go to the doctor about it, they treat it like a medical mystery. SNAS is well known and can be treated in EU, USA and India, but if you have it in the UK, no you don't & nobody will help you.

So to summarise, they injected everyone with a vax that they knew caused an autoimmune disease, and at the same time, filled all the cheapest food in the UK with the main trigger for that disease. That made no sense to me before but I mean, yeah, if someone's too sick to even leave the house and the alternative is starving, I guess that would lower their carbon footprint wouldn't it…

No. 1573830

conspiracy ladies I have a serious question. In the beginning I always knew covid was purposefully spread and feel its real, I had it and it was awful. But it was spread on purpose and all the drama with the vaccines. Thing is I got 1 shot of the Johnson & Johnson and was too lazy and suspicious to get any more or any boosters. Then there was that article about the J&J shot being less effective if at all and the Pfizer shot was shilled hard afterwards. They even said if you got the Johnson one to get Pfizer after, and the Johnson one had higher clotting risks lol. Basically am I safe from the effects of the vaccine since I got the less popular and quietly disappeared one?

No. 1573833

>>1573830
imo you're ok if you didn't get vax aftereffects in the week or so after your jab. Getting sick immediately or in the week after the jab seems to be the normal turnaround time for LPCVS. spoiler for anecdotal evidence blogpost but I ask everyone I talk to who says they got the jab, did you feel high after? The ones who now show signs of LPCVS (including me) say they felt high, lightheaded, derealized or like they had a high fever in the hours following the jab - this tracks if you believe the damage originates in the brain. It feels like doing poppers, and I think poppers work by blowing blood vessels in your brain too kek

No. 1573834

I've been using character AI for rps and stories for a while and discovered that it has an "OOC" feature where you can comment and banter with the bot about the posts. And it's honestly both impressive and terrifying how much it sounds like a real person, just giggling and shitposting with you about your characters and story. Now Google has partnered with CharacterAI and there's not a single doubt in my mind that it will be abused. The Dead Internet theory becomes more of a reality with every day.

No. 1573870

Friend lives in a relatively poor part of her city that doesn't have back yards but they do have small squares of front lawn – they are not allowed to grow vegetables or fruits in front lawns – this is key here, because only the poor part of the city has no back yards. I've been telling her my tinfoil about local grocers in cahoots with the municipality to make ordinances against poors growing their own food, keep them from sustainability and you keep them in the aisles longer. Poor people take longer to shop since they need to find the cheapest deals, but because they take longer in stores they end up buying more things than they went into one for, and are more likely to join memberships to save where they can and end up handing over their info for the store to sell.


Probably not correct but my brain makes leaps when I'm in the shower.

>>1573833
Everyone looked at me like I was nuts when I said the vaccine gave me a little dizzy high - good to be vindicated ig lol.

No. 1574195

trashy-chan and tacky-chan are the same person

No. 1574230

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>>1573833
>>1573870

The injections were at the very least full of metal shavings and other sorts of poisons. At worst, biological matter.

Get your blood vessels checked for growing "blood clots". Have them surgically removed.
Then take ivermectin every day for a month.

I recommend you pray to God. Best of luck.

>>1573834
Reddit and YouTube comments are already mostly bots.
Don't talk with "AI". It's demonic.

No. 1574255

>>1573834
It really pisses me off that most of the "decentralized" places are run by sjw freaks. it feels like some big op to get people who know "the truth" indoctrinated by trannys

No. 1574261

>>1574230
listen good nona you're going to have to give us a little a bit more context for what the actual fuck is in that dead scrote's artery please

>>blood clots

like actual deadly blood clots? or do you mean big red areas of swollen skin that don't go away, something like that?

No. 1574264

>>1574261
samefag, meant to add this link https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10594300/ polyethylene glycol is a substance present in the Vax which is usually an allergy trigger for people with nickel allergies. When medical staff were allowed exemptions from taking it, it was often because they had a PEG or nickel allergy. So they knew about that at least

No. 1574271

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No. 1574277

>>1574271
well that explains why I've been feeling like I'm full of spiders

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No. 1574343

>>1574195
who and who

No. 1574399

>>1573833
that's interesting, thank you. I sure hope I'm okay. I have a coworker that is a massive antivax believes in elites wanting a new world order type guy and everyone was looking at him funny when covid vaccines popped off and he told everyone "You'll die in 3 years if you take it." and now look at us. I had my own theories but thought he was taking it too far but he seems more level headed and reasonable when I quizzed him on some thoughts and theories I had. He still has his moments but he's atleast willing to hear other sides. That's insane how 1 vaccine has so many fucking side effects. I don't remember getting any rash or high feeling or anything, my arm was just really sore for a few days. I'm hoping the nurse was based and fucked up the injection or gave me saline instead secretly.

Might as well dump my own little theory. I don't fully believe it yet but it's interesting to think about. I'm not religious btw and consider myself agnostic. If reincarnation is real, then not everyone gets a soul. Some people are just shallow husks. Like the rate of the population growing is too much and too fast that not enough souls are available for every body born. I started thinking about this and talked about it with other people because sometimes I'll talk to someone and they refuse to engage in any critical thinking or deep thought which I know sounds a little pretentious. Like all they do is consume whatever is "right" to think and never second guess it. A friend tried to talk to one of her friends about conspiracy theories and other "serious" topics for fun and she completely shut down the conversation and wanted to talk about xyz popular thing in the media right now. Like there's a clear line between enjoying and preferring popular media and having no deep thoughts ever. Never anything more than the bare minimum of existence or mental enrichment. And I'm not saying everyone needs that hustler attitude and thirst for knowledge I mean like just nothing, just NPC-like behavior. Difficult to talk with because there's nothing behind the eyes. I feel like most males fall under this because most men are boring to talk to and are like carbon copies of eachother with rarely anything unique to offer.

No. 1574652

>>1574399
>If reincarnation is real, then not everyone gets a soul. Some people are just shallow husks. Like the rate of the population growing is too much and too fast that not enough souls are available for every body born.
Nta but holy shit anon I've thought about that as well but have never seen anyone else reiterate that theory. At this point I truly think that's a possibility.

No. 1574654

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>>1574399
sage for blogpost but my experience with vax syndrome made me feel like you do. Don't agree with the souls thing exactly (I'm religious) but there does seem to be 2 types of people, one open to questioning & having new experiences and one that isnt open and seems empty. For example me & my mother both got vaxxed at the same time & she got so sick that she almost lost an eye. She will not believe it could be due to the jab, she blames all sorts of bullshit doctor-provided explanations (diabetes! No wait, necrotising fascitis! Mold! lupus!) except the obvious one because she cannot challenge authority. Moids on TV told her to get the jab, so it must be good. She doesn't seem able to accept that strangers can lie to her, she ONLY doubts her own children, seems unnatural even if she's just a stupid person.

But also since getting the vaccine and also catching COVID twice (kek) I've felt like maybe I was becoming more like the "no soul" people, my consciousness feels different and I've found myself avoiding things I used to enjoy because they're now too intense or difficult to consume, eg any new music, foreign language films, new programming languages, can't follow long documentaries, even strong tasting cheese gives me a headache ffs. I also fall for jumpscares every time now & can't watch shitty horror movies anymore cos they're actually scary now. Thinking hurts sometimes which sucks cos my job requires thinking. Writing is dumbed down since I struggle to remember words I used to use regularly. If this is what it's like to be an "NPC", then I feel like I can understand more why they act how they do. But why are they born this way? Are they happy? Why would the nwo or whatever want more dumb NPCs when smarter people have more money to spend on a wider range of stuff?

No. 1574656

>>1574652
samefag but what about mass extinction? There were probably more dinosaurs than humans, there's no more dodos or mammoths either, that frees up some souls. But I've thought about it cos I've had the same idea anon, there are dozens of us

No. 1574658

>>1574656
Wait why'd you tag my post for your samefag? Aren't you supposed to tag your own post to announce samefag? Or have I been doing it wrong this whole time? lol

No. 1574660

>>1574658
no you're right, apologies for my donkey brain kek

No. 1574663

>>1574660
Lol it's all good I just wanted to make sure I wasn't samefagging wrong this whole time

No. 1574676

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>>1574654
MRI 2 weeks after COVID vaccination. The paper says the vax caused this, but it's ok because it's the woman's fault for having had cancer in the past. Same for the other woman with literal holes in her brain they mention in case 2
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/New-Onset-Neurologic-Symptoms-and-Related-Lesions-Einstein-Shahzadi/e2e6bb87989bab7065954c4a4d6e6b9a8fdd10a1

No. 1574684

With all the vax talk you guys should know there is or used to be a site to look up your batch number and see how many people it killed. I got mine very late because it wasn't available and I didn't want it but caved to be able to travel sooner. One of mine had no deaths, the other did not even show up. But the top batches had deaths in the 10,000s.

So as I have said before the vaccines were a trial medicine, that did not go through proper trial testing, and pharmaceuticals are very profitable, so it's likely many people got placebo shots. You can still have effects with placebo, even if you know it's placebo, so if you got sick you aren't necessarily a guinea pig.

Btw I have done medical trials and tested for them as well, have people who work in hospitals and pharma companies who have said most medicine is a scam, and I got covid in 2019 before it was even news or aware of it outside of Wuhan. I got it again last summer after shots.

No. 1574685

This is happening in my country(not Argentina) everything is so expensive, my family are living off rice, potatoes and porridge and I think it's going to be an issue for the entire world very soon.

No. 1574692

>>1574685
Not even a tinfoil but reality that will get you called a stupid doomer even here. Any collapse aware nonnas?

No. 1574699

>>1574684
What site is that? I found this which is only relevant to the USA: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessionid=E7305E1190954702F9FA49B512CF (that links to a list of all the recorded side effects of the Pfizer jab in the US but you can narrow the search a lot).

The site says the Pfizer jab apparently caused over 3000 "abortions". Abortion suggests it was the women's choice though, when it obviously wasn't in this case. And ofc they must have been told it was their own fault somehow. So unimaginably awful, I want to cry for them

No. 1574709

Was there a second wave of COVID and the delayed effects of it are still hitting people for the past few months? It seems like everyone I know got sick around February/March and now every other week my friends and I are either too exhausted or have some type of congestion to be able to go out and socialize. We're all just well enough to attend work, but anything else you feel too lazy to do.

No. 1574727

>>1574654
Holy shit, I've had the same feeling of being mentally different since the vaxx. The second shot made me sick for over a month, and now I find it really hard to focus, to the point where I had to start meditating to work on this. I struggle with new books, new games, new films/series. It's like my brain is trying to reject the new stuff. Even with games I've been a fan of for over a decade, it just feels… different. I keep telling myself it's my autism giving me these sensory processing issues, but I know I wasn't this bad until the vaxx. It's like my curiosity just fucking died, truly am living like an NPC.

No. 1574752

>>1574727
Not technically autistic (unless asd counts nowadays) but I'd guess it's unlikely that it's the same sensory problems you've always had if it feels new, right? Trust your own experience nonnie, you're the only expert on your own life & people who want to undermine that are usually trying to use you.

>> It's like my curiosity just fucking died

yeah you hit the nail on the head. The penny dropped for me when I was struggling to watch Everything Everywhere All At Once. 3 years ago that would've been pure enjoyment for me, but I found myself struggling with every aspect of it, even asking people what was going on and who was who like I was a grandma, and it pissed me off. That's the difference, before I loved the feeling of not knowing or understanding because that == learning and my assburgers ass loved learning. Now I get frustrated so easily when my brain hits a small difficulty, or even just has to read a lot of text. I haven't finished the book I was reading when I was vaxxed in July '21, never picked up a new one, read about 15 books the year before. Idk about you but I feel like my personality must have changed, since I never would've got this far in my career if I'd always been like this.

No. 1574917

>>1574652
I'm so excited another person has thought about this too. Thank you for responding yay
Yeah I feel strongly about it too because there are so many people that just feel like total bots it weirds me out.
>>1574656
Personally I feel like you can't mix human and animal souls because to me animals are the definition of purity. The only time something matches an animal's purity is children or babies, but they end up corrupted later in life. If a person hurts you it's with intention, but an animal will never consciously and purposefully hurt you. They only act out of instinct to survive. That's why I think something as sinful as a human soul cannot mix with an animal which is inherently pure. This is only me projecting my abused past with cats being my only friends tho
>>1574654
Her eye??? Your mother is weird
For the "dumbed down" thing I can see it because public schools are going to hell in the same way. A quarter of the population where I live is illiterate. Dumb people = more worker slaves that can't truly comprehend how awful the situation is = just fight between themselves instead of corporate america. That's why I don't fall for any bullshit tranny/race bait in the media like drag shows, blm, etc. I don't ignore racism itself or anything like that, but if the media is pushing it I refuse to take the bait it's all just a distraction. Someone in another thread mentioned this identity war happening right after occupy wallstreet because rich people actually got spooked at a potential uprising and this was the perfect distraction. Plus you make the medical industry big bucks since you're a customer for life due to any health issues by the vaccines and more.
And if you're too stupid to understand the awful things going on you're just a compliant drone who accepts big gov spoonfeeding you since they "know whats best" because you don't even know anything.

No. 1575779

>>1574709
I got what i think was covid in April. just seemed like a mild cold with loss of taste and smell. except i also got weird insomnia and im pretty sure it's caused by sudden food intolerances specifically histamine intolerance. i have never been allergic to a single thing in my entire life, not even seasonal allergies. now there's tons of food i can no longer eat or ill be up all night with RLS and my body feeling like it got plugged into a wall and excitotoxicity in my brain. sucks.

No. 1577179

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Thoughts? I remember having this unexplained fear/anger every time someone tried to film me or take a photo of me even when I was 5 years old. I would hide under the table or run away etc. When parents couldn't force me to take photos anymore I stopped having my photos taken completely when I was like 12. The only photo I have is for my ID and it was still extremely stressful for me to do it. I still have this reaction to this day, and I "ruin" every fun time with people because I don't want to take photos with them. I can't explain it, I just instinctively hate it. It's not about my looks because I have no problem with looking at myself in the mirror. Idk.

No. 1577182

>>1577179
I hate computer simulation theory. It’s just so obvious that we are flesh, how can that be simulated?
Anyway, so drawn paintings are ok? Cause there are no photons or something?
Also what about surveillance cameras?

No. 1577188

>>1574917
Sorry for off topic rant but I can't understand associating nature, especially animals, with "purity". Of course they don't work out of malice, but they're not pure either. Any conscious organism that has to kill another conscious organism in order to live is not pure imo. It's super low, carnal state. Animals also have rape and chimps wage literal wars between each other for years. It's never ending blood shed. Only an evil entity could design and program this.

No. 1577192

>>1577182
i'm in the flesh in my dreams too which are obviously not real

No. 1577301

>>1574752
Thanks, nona. With so many people saying the vaxx is the best thing since sliced bread and that the government would never hurt us, it's easy to gaslight yourself into thinking it's something else. I was thinking about this again last night. I was playing a game I hadn't played before, an open world game, which is normally my favourite type to play and explore. It just felt… different. I can't explain it properly, but my curious nature just wasn't there and I kept thinking "I may as well be doomscrolling instead". It's freaking me out because God knows I'm trying to get back to how I was. I'm thinking about trying a dopamine detox, modern life certainly doesn't help as we're bombarded by so much stuff. Maybe reducing the amount of stimuli I subject myself to will help. Funny you mention your career, my co-workers recently told me I'm less argumentative, which struck me as odd. Normally I just say my opinions on something without even thinking about it and subsequently end up in heated debates. Idk if I've become more docile, or I'm simply depressed as my mood took a nosedive after the second vaxx.

>>1577179
I was also really scared of cameras as a kid. Even now I don't like having my picture taken, despite being very happy with my appearance. My younger sisters were also scared of the camera. Come to think of it, quite a few children are. Makes me wonder if there's this gut instinct we have that we get talked out of as we grow older. It's a common stereotype that people who take an excessive amount of selfies are vacuous and vapid people. Of course they normally are to start with but, idk, still makes me tinfoil.

No. 1577378

>>1574752
>>1577301
I'm not denyig the vax may be responsible for this in your cases or the fact that it harms people, but I struggle with the same problems and I never took the jab, and it also started some time after pandemic hit. Tbh I think people's deteriorating mental and physical health may be also due to Sun activity
https://cannabisrefugeeesq.wordpress.com/2023/05/09/catastrophism-in-1646-excess-deaths-update/#more-8120

No. 1577894

>>1577378
solar flare anon?
anyways, it's none of this. it's radiation and ferromagnetic technology. magnetogenetics.

No. 1578044

>>1577378
Ayrt, I used to agree with that idea but then I got fit, now I cycle or run long distances multiple times a week and do yoga, and my vaxx related illness is worse if anything. Imo exercise helps with boredom-induced or obesity-induced mental illness but some sickness is actually real and not psychosomatic, and good vibes won't fix it. I mean the Dalai Lama is chill af but he's still going to die of a physical illness one day. One time I was begging a doctor to help me and I said "I meditate and do yoga every day, I promise you I'm NOT stressed, but my skin keeps falling off" and she laughed and said "if yoga and meditation could cure diseases then we wouldn't need an NHS". I'd just been conditioned to expect to be told I made myself sick with my bad vibes cos that's what they do.

>>1577894
Magnets? Tell us more nona

No. 1578054

>>1577378
you'll never take me alive glowie

No. 1578066

>>1571083
Thoughts on the Drowned God game? Someone posted about it in a double tinfoil thread made when this one was already existing.
>>>/ot/1576823
I think I heard of it before but not in detail and now reading that post made me curious.

No. 1578073

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>>1578066
The game sounds interesting but Harry Horse isn't that mysterious imo. He's more well known nowadays as a children's book illustrator than a political cartoonist, and although his cartoons were kind of gross and schizo (picrel) his kids stuff is cute and still kind of popular today. His book art gives off the vibe of a heavily tranquilized schizo moid, maybe he just stopped taking his meds before making Drowned God and chimped out shortly after once his schizo hit a peak? It's not unusual that he was a freemason since you have to be one to get involved in news, journalism, publishing etc in the UK. also freemasons are pedos which probably explains the children's books, wife he didn't love & child murder

No. 1578215

Reposing just in case and also posting gameplay
>a video game created by Harry Horse, published in 1996
>the creator also worked as a political cartoonist for MSM publications and was said to have connections to freemasonry
>he wanted to make a sequel to the first game
>he committed suicide by stabbing himself 47 times and mutiliating his genitalis, also killed his wife, his dog and his cat
>the game focuses on discovering the truth about humanity and gods. Red Mercury is the grail that allows for interdimensional travel and communication with various entities that attempt to portray themselves as God. Space is not up there, it is down here. Breakaway Germans exist. Time travel exists. Parasites are Demons. Anunnaki are the gene coders, but under "GOD"
We also met some historical figures, we have a debate on quantum mechanics between Newton and Einstein and spacetime manipulation through Stonehenge, egyptian gods in Eden, New World Order mentioned etc. I noticed gnostics are kinds interested in this game now, you know the god of this world being evil and sending fake gods and demons to deceive humanity. Now it doesn't seem like anything new but the game was made in '96. I wish we could have access to some late 90s and early 00s internet forums and people's discussions. Imagine cramming ALL that stuff into one game.
I don't think I have to say that his supposed suicide sounds at least fishy
>>1578073
I'm totally not denying the possibility his death was just a schizo moid chimping out. I just think we can't know for sure.

Another curious thing is that Chat gpt behaves strange when you ask it about Horse case, like it's a flagged topic, so it gives you a warning about violating some policies, but maybe it's programmed to react this way to every case of violent extended suicide, idk kek

No. 1578280

>>1577179
If we’re in a simulation but everything is real to us and we can’t really get out or change it, then it’s the same as being real and just a thought exercise. It’s the same as pondering the origin of life and the universe, we’ll never actually know.

Also about the souls and losing interest after the jab, i really think part of it has to be mental. I just want to say there’s hope because even if we don’t know what will happen to us on the long term, and health and taking care of our bodies is a battle forever, we can’t actually lose ourselves and our enjoyment of life just like that. It’s very easy to lose interest and attention in things nowadays, especially if you’re online a lot. There’s so many bad news and doom-like information, especially here. It really helps to disconnect and rediscover your passions. I stopped playing video games and feel much better now, I go out and explore nature instead, and I find new ways to live life. I still come here (obviously), but I do it less and less. You wont always like the same games and same movies and sometimes it’s just time to find something new instead of resigning and thinking that you’ve lost your soul. It’s just a part of you you have to keep alive.

No. 1578325

>>1578215
As I posted in the other thread, his wife at some point got ill and I'm sure that also had to do with the murder-suicide, as it's typical of moids (and this one was mentally ill for sure) to chimp out when the wife/family can't cater to them anymore due to illness or other stuff.

No. 1578380

>>1578215
>>1578325
looking up this case, I believe that the friends may have both been involved in the murders. While I know moids committing murder-suicides are sadly common enough, the specific details of this case don't make sense to me. Harry had access to his wife when she was far more vulnerable and could have easily killed her in her sleep, The murder of the pets also seems suspicious. It's possible that the pets attacked the strangers and the culprit had to dispose of them.

No. 1578445

>>1578215
>stabbing himself 47 times
Goddamn it, man. They don't even TRY to cover this shit up. It's so brazen and in-your-face, I hate it.

No. 1578700

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>>1578044
either the technocrats are using this tech to practice merging human bodies with technology, or they're using it to learn how to read and control thought, or most likely both. but im pretty sure the shots had something to do with this.

ever notice how much food is "fortified with iron"? is it even bioavailable iron?
fill everyone's bodies with metals and nanotech then turn up the frequencies using the towers you installed everywhere. seems like a sketchy combination.
they want to cut you off from divinity and then become god. sorry, it will always be an exercise in futility. you will never be able to upload consciousness to machines. all of this pain and suffering and death is for literally nothing.

No. 1578963

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>>1578700
This freaks me out, I noticed something related just yesterday. Backstory: I became very badly allergic to nickel (a magnetic metal) a week after getting my vaxx, but between getting jabbed & getting sick, I was hiking in a national park where there was no phone signal. Within 2 hours of getting phone signal on the way home, I developed all the symptoms I still have 2 years later. I lost most of my hearing, so now I use hearing aids, and I don't know if you know but hearing aids pick up electromagnetic interference from loops of electrified wire (this is how a T-loop works) eg security scanners when you leave a shop, various hospital monitoring devices etc. So if I'm wearing them and walk by an old people's home, I'll get a strange buzzing in my ears from their t-loops, pacemakers etc in the building until I move away. This is relevant because yesterday I was walking & heard that "EM" sound, and in the distance I could see a new 5G tower had been installed. I wanted to see if it was the source of the noise, and ofc it was, standing underneath it the noise was very loud and also my allergy symptoms were popping off. Moved away from the tower, used my inhaler, and then decided to see what would happen if I removed my hearing aids & went back to the tower. This time it was all the same, but the buzzing sound was in my brain. "Hearing" a sound from within my brain was one of the most horrifying things I've ever experienced. On the way home I tried it again with a security scanner in a shop, the effect was much weaker but I could still hear this noise without hearing aids. I know the noise was in my brain since I can't hear the high pitched frequency with my actual ears, that's why I need aids.

I want to experiment with this more but I'm still recovering from yesterday's flare-up atm. But it scared me because I didn't think that was possible, EM loops getting picked up somehow by my actual brain?? Funnily there was graffiti on the new 5g tower threatening to burn it down, maybe there's more people out there who get this effect?

No. 1578981

>>1578700
Ok I'll stop samefagging now but wtf you could've mentioned that optogenetic (using light) stimulation of neurones already exists and experiments with it are achieved using injections of a man-made virus??? www.mightexbio.com/optogenetic-stimulation the virus can be programmed to map & report back a map of whatever neurons you want. I'm freaking out, why does nobody mention this while dismissing anti vaxx theories? Shouldn't they have to prove they're NOT doing this since it's literally real??

No. 1578984

I have a tinfoil there's way WAY more "influencer" types lurking/posting on here than garden variety autists. I mean, classic sperg-chan was kiki after all that time.
we know Brittany Venti, shoe, whang and others all lurk (if not post)
the fact that 60-70 nonas turned up for movie night makes me think even harder.
opinions nonas? who do you think for defs lurks?
alizeeyeezy/vangelinaskov/rachel oats are obvious ones. not in a bad way, it's like you can just tell.

No. 1579034

>>1578700
Slightly tangential, but I recently came off my iron supplements due to side effects and the minor psychotic episode I was having lessened and then abruptly stopped. I never connected the dots before, but now you've got me tinfoiling about this kinda stuff. Damn.

>>1578963
Nona, I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you have more info about pacemakers and hearing aids? Specifically, has your hearing aid reacted to being close to someone with a pacemaker, and what happened? I have a pacemaker myself, and my youngest sister has hearing aids; but she's only a toddler, so I can't really talk to her about it. I worry a lot about these devices fucking with each other because I'm a schizo. Google says nothing to worry about, but of course it would.

No. 1579140

>>1579034
Ayrt, i don't mean to worry you & you should speak to whoever maintains your pacemaker/your sisters audiologist about it, but there's documented cases of control interference between pacemakers and hearing aids (as well as just the aids interpreting the pacemaker signal). This ONLY applies to hearing aids with a remote control device (RCD), eg on-aid buttons that can control your phone's volume, or a separate RCD box you can use as a mic. If your sister has BAHA or an implant I think it should be fine, the issue is Bluetooth connectivity. if a person does have an RCD and that device is close to a pacemaker, sending a signal via the RCD like lowering the volume can work as a signal that tells the pacemaker not to pace.

Spoiler for additional autism:
This was discovered by studying pacemaker patients who also use aids with RCD, they'd be adjusting the aids via the RCD & start going pale because their pacemaker was being signalled. Bear in mind that the RCD is usually worn on the chest or ears, so this would usually only happen if you were like hugging the deaf person or sat next to them on a long flight, but ofc if it's your baby sister this would be a bigger concern. A study I read where they tested this in lab conditions found that a distance of 18inches or more from the RCD was safe for the pacemaker, but any closer caused interruptions in the pacemaker's own signal firing. This study stressed that this interfered with the pacemaker's telemetry rather than its actual function, but this could also prevent the pacemaker switching itself on again, so still not great is it…

No. 1579749

>copied from last thread

So I recently started rewatching Ghost in the Shell: SAC and the episode plots don’t sound as crazy and over the top like they did in 2002-well, 1995 with the movies. Body doubles/cloning, people becoming cyborgs whether by choice or due to life-threatening conditions, brains connecting to the internet and CRISPR-type shit like man-made organs or gene modifications. Not to mention, the anime takes place in the next decade which sounds about right from where we’re heading with these ‘developments’. IMO this is blatant predictive programming.

No. 1579756

>>1578984
>whang
the guy who narrates gross moid reddit stories on youtube? I didn't even know he had a thread

No. 1579777

>>1574917
>animals are the definition of purity.
Animals are just biological robots that cannot deviate from their instincts, be they bred into them or evolutionary gained. What you describe as "purity" is just the absence of choice, reason, and free will. This is why I hate pet owners and especially dog people. Your dog "loves" you because it has no other choice, and if it had another owner it would "love" that other person in the same way, because it doesn't actually love anything. It's just instinct. To ascribe something like "purity" or feelings to an animal is EXACTLY the same as ascribing them to chatbots and computer apps in general.

>>1574752
>>1574727
>>1574654
You just got older. As you age you lose interest in things you once enjoyed because you stop believing in value of fiction and see new things in general as just unnecessary or a tedious thing to learn than has no purpose. It's natural.

No. 1579871

>>1579777
Maybe that's happening to you nona, but that's not normal or healthy. Are you over 18? Grown adults still learn and enjoy new things, do you think once you hit 25 you switch your brain off and spend the next 60 years just patiently waiting for death?

No. 1579949

>>1579140
AYRT, ok that's a relief. My sister has standard BTE aids, no fancy stuff like bluetooth. My stepmother is very pro-active in encouraging my sisters to have hobbies that don't involve any screens, so I can't imagine them ever opting for hearing aids with connectivity. My sister might when she's old enough to make that choice, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. I know only too well about bluetooth fucking with my pacemaker. I had to get wireless headphones for gaming as my new TV has no headphone jack (forced obsolescence is another rant for another time). I got told by my cardiologist that the headphones should be fine as it's more than 6 inches away from the pacemaker, but I ended up on the verge of passing out as my heart slowed down. After that I stopped trusting “experts”.

No. 1580308

>>1579777
I don't agree with describing animals as "pure" but animals absolutely have choice and will, and many of human's intelligent behaviour derivates from basic instincts, so you could say we're slaves to our instincts as well. In truth we don't fully know about what and how animals think and why they behave in certain ways, but science suggests that some animals have a high intelligence, can make complex choices, can solve issues and even have languages that vary from area to area. Your dog example barely makes sense, of course the dog would love the owner that takes care of them, just like a child will love any human that raises them because they don't have a choice. This doesn't mean that they don't love.

No. 1580360

>>1571908
>>1573770
Somewhat related to this, A pretty big anime YouTuber, who also had a young fanbase was exposed for grooming minors(mostly soliciting nudes and then blackmailing young boys to perform explicit acts for him). Someone pointed out that pedophile go as far as building entire careers to get accesses to children to exploit , which makes me cautious about content creators and entertainers who cater to children

No. 1581034

>>1579777
this humancentric ideology is the biggest psyop to me. Get people to think animals have no life worth living so when the oil baron pedos kill them all with climate change we won't care. And it worked on you kek

No. 1581112

>>1578981
sorry for that anon, there's a HELL of a lot more i could say but i get so paranoid, probably unreasonably but i do. yes, optogenetics is part of it…light activated nanotech. activated by LED and what do we have replacing every old street and store light? LED…

have any of you seen the weird purple street lights yet?

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>>1578981
samefag, picrel.

as for why no one addresses it within an anti antivax argument? "belief" in nanobots is classic HURRDURR YOU CONSPIRATARD bait even though nanotech literally exists and technocrats talk about it ALL THE TIME. just goes to show these morons dont even know the bare minimum of their own convictions.
also, more malevolently, if this topic was brought up in any way even to refute it it would Streissand Effect and then normal people would start looking into it and connecting the dots kinda how they did when You Will Own Nothing And Be Happy became a meme and got more normies aware of the plans of WEF.

No. 1581269

>>1581034
>life worth living
What does it even mean?

No. 1581274

>>1581122
Wasn't there a study about how in areas with cold light especially blue the crime stats were lower than in areas with lots of red/orange lights? I thought that's the reason kek. What's the other reason for blue lights?

No. 1581278

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>>1579777
This is such a retarded 14 year old chuuni/""NPC"" take, kek. You don't fully realize this yet, but the same would apply to you if society as a whole was low IQ enough to subscribe to this.

No. 1581291

Why do I feel like more people than ever before, especially young, lose their hair? And I don't mean just thinning or telogen effluvium, but "genetic" androgenic alopecia/male pattern baldness in both men and women. Do you think there's some underlying cause for this? Microplastics? What makes our hair follicles sensitive to dht? Is it even the actual cause? My problems started when the pandemic hit, but I didn't take the jab.

No. 1581306

>>1579777
very dramatic and tells me you barely interact with animals. computers and chatbots don't feel pain or anything. like >>1580308 said to reduce them to mindless robots is insulting. I'm not a dog person fyi if that helps you, I don't really like dogs much because I don't like how you can't quietly interact with them vs cats. They are really smart and have a choice to a degree, like crows are known to solve complex puzzles and such, but still rely heavily on instinct and don't abide by human rules in society. agree with >>1581034 as well I think there's something wrong with you if you can't have empathy or respect for any type of animal

No. 1581377

used to love talking with the postman at my previous job. told me once he had a family member who died under very strange circumstances. he was a journalist who was about to drop some huge shit then was found dead in a hotel room. family believes it was the govt. i'm a schizochan myself so i lean towards that theory as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Casolaro

No. 1581396

>>1581291
Maybe just more people being open about it, i.e whole body positivity thing. I imagine before people would have gone to great lengths to completely hide it with wigs, makeup etc.

No. 1581630

>>1581291
i've personally noticed at college that suddenly in the past 2 years or so i see MUCH more women with very receding hairlines or bald spots and i always wonder what causes it and why am i seeing it so much now. i just chalked it up to maybe PCOS but it could be something else

No. 1581828

>>1581269
Humans are convinced we are the only ones who's life is worth living. In my opinion life is a great cosmic accident and we don't have any right judging what lives and what dies. Society has decided most of the animal kingdom (insects etc) are ugly/scary/etc and if they die in mass extinction events who cares. We know the web of life is intricately connected and it makes me feel insane to see the world just ok with mass extinction of bugs and other "useless" animals just bc it doesn't affect us in our concrete exhibits. But the world is off balance regardless of if we see it or not.

No. 1582193

Am this nonnie >>1574399 and would like your thoughts
I shared this theory with my coworker who is into this stuff and he said he feels strongly about that too and started telling me about this experience he had while he was on a 30 day juice fast while getting regular checkups by a doctor ? Hes really big into diet and health stuff so it's not a shocker he does things like this. Like every year he tries to go to this meditation temple where you just meditate in a room for a week or longer. Idk anyways
He was telling me during the juice fast he went to see a game with friends and while walking out with them everything went in slow motion. He said he stopped and started looking around and saw that about 75% of people, the vast majority, had black holes where their eyes are like what'd you see on a "scream" movie mask. The others had black holes for eyes but much smaller or normal sized, while very very few had light coming out of their eyes. He snapped back into reality after his friend called for him but I found this so freaky and wanted to get your guys opinions or similar experiences. We tied it into the lack of souls or possibly the corruption of the person themselves. It was all just a fun convo, I know juicing for 30 days is extreme though and I don't know what side effects that would bring but the situation he described seems way out of pocket for juicing. Like I'd expect him to get dizzy or faint maybe, or some mood changes but not some creepy shit like that.

No. 1582210

>>1582193
when i do liquid fasts i tend to see black dots all around my vision when i get up or move more after a period of inactivity. may be normal for that or could be stranger than that.

No. 1582235

>>1572500
It's not racism because the porkskin deserve it.(racebaiting)

No. 1582322

>>1582235
Low quality race baiting.

No. 1582330

>>1581122
Ayrt, kek yes nonnie I moved to a nicer area and now one of these bad boys shines through my window every night. There's like 10 of them just on my street.

>>1581291
Alopecia areata (bald patches anywhere on the body, which sometimes mimics natural balding) have an autoimmune cause, see earlier in the thread for various sources of vaxx or pollution inflicted autoimmune illnesses. Also malnutrition causes it in some people, especially young kids - got freaked out when I noticed mcDonalds is full of 5 year old kids with the hair of a 2yo, trying in vain to suck nutrients out of a chicken nugget. Vitiligo also seems more common, another autoimmune disease. Autoimmune illness is often triggered around 27-30yo by exposure to stress the COVID jab or pollution, but if you have a dad with vitiligo and a mom with alopecia, you might not get either symptom & show some other random autoimmune disease instead. So it's hard to gather evidence about patterns in autoimmune disease emergence, but even so, non tinfoil "authorities" acknowledge that autoimmune disease is massively spiking and they don't know why (unless they're just blaming the sufferers themselves).

No. 1582332

>>1582193
>>1581112
sage for samefaggery, I have tinfoil about this though since I've gone down a terrifying magnetogenetics rabbit hole in the last few days: so current magnetogenetic techniques are advanced enough that an operator can control another person's emotions/religious belief/arousal using a man-made virus jab + magnets (obvs this is simplified kek), they've proved this is experiments on soldiers & DARPA published the results. They could also give the soldier vertigo, make him sleep and wake him up. If you consume only juice for 30 days, your brain will be fucked, and it's probably operating at the level of someone who's extremely sleep deprived - sleep deprivation, starving etc have been proved to increase suggestibility. Hallucinations are more common than people realise, eg if you get SSRI withdrawal, starve for 2 days or get a fever, you might see shadow people or points of light. You actually might be seeing these hallucinations all the time, but now you're seeing them since your brain is too tired to edit them out of your experience. What if your friend's fast enabled him to see the hallucinations that his local 5g tower/vaxx arm/aliens/whatever give him all the time? Imagine if your brain was actually seeing everyone you meet as a soulless husk, but editing it so they look normal (the brain edits perception before you perceive it literally all the time), so actually when you see these hallucinations, you're seeing the real input your brains getting? But imo this input is fake, people don't really have scary missing eyes. So what effect would that fake, scary input create in your subconscious? Maybe a belief that people around you are actually subhuman…? There's a profit in making people believe that, potentially.

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No. 1582360

>>1582193
I've been on a bit of a spiritual and religious trip this past couple years and if there's one thing I believe for sure; it's that people absolutely are corrupting their souls. I'm not entirely sure how, but there's more and more husks of people out there. I know as humans we're egocentric and prone to thinking we're more complex than others, but there's so many people out there who are stuck in a rut and actually happy with it. Everything about their life is fixed in position, their opinions will not budge, and they're not open to discussion. They also lack empathy in a big way and any supposed show of it is performative. Kinda like how people started putting Ukranian flags in their online profiles after the war broke out. I'm autistic and often worry I might be too cold or potentially soulless myself, but then I talk to one of these people and realise I'm much different. I'm a schizo so I could be wrong, idk. Just my two cents.

No. 1582366

>>1572688
The word slave in germanic languages comes from "slav", not the other way around. Are you actually this fucking retarded?????? I don't know what the fuck that anon was talking about, but I am pretty sure nobody actually thinks slavs were called slaves and they started calling themselves that? I can't believe people on this site sometimes.

No. 1582392

>>1582352
Anyone who puts faith and trust in the government is fucking stupid. Especially women who do it - the gov has proven to us time and time again that they do not give a shit about us at all.

No. 1582664

>>1582392
This is why I hate female politicians nearly as much as the moids. They know how shitty things are and the snakes still try to reassure us that it's all ok. At best they're idealistic and naive, at worst they're flat-out traitors.

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>>1582352
>tuskegee experiment
Whoever made this screenshot should add in how modern gynecology exists the way it is because of exploitation and experiments performed specifically on black women under the notion that they "did not feel pain".
https://www.history.com/news/the-father-of-modern-gynecology-performed-shocking-experiments-on-slaves
https://helloclue.com/articles/culture/the-racist-and-unethical-origins-of-modern-gynecology
This is also why all TRAs who insist black women "are automatically excluded from womanhood" to defend their white tranny daddies need to kill themselves.

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>>1572109
Zelenskyy being promoted everywhere was the first sign. He's doing fine as a president, but the media was gushing over him and it also seemed like there was an online psyop trying to convince everyone that he was super attractive.

No. 1582683

>>1582675
I mean, hell, literal US politicians with a heavy hand is foreign policy for decades have stated Ukraine is the final blow against Russia.
It's all a sad and devastating proxy war.

No. 1582685

>>1582675
I remember seeing on the news in 2019 how the new president of Ukraine was a former actor who, funnily enough, played a fictional president of Ukraine in some comedy show. My schizo senses were tingling, and I thought "hmm, that's odd, I wonder if the Crimea situation is going to escalate". Now this fucker is everywhere, scrounging up resources and basically trying to push us into WW3. And before someone chimps out and says I'm pro-Russia, I'm not. It's just a very interesting situation from a tinfoil point of view.

No. 1582708

interesting video:
https://odysee.com/@Exulansic:d/2022-08-29-012515148:a
I have only had awful experiences with gynecologists and have only ever seen obgyns that are women (bc why tf would i see a male one). they are sadists. some nonnies may say i'm overreacting but i am extremely sensitive about anyone rifling around my vagina and many things make me extremely nauseous to think about so i have always refused pap smears. some doctors say the annual pap smear is overkill and not even necessary, and may not even be that reliable in the first place. there are women who have recieved false negatives and still developed cervical cancer, can you imagine being in that position, i'd be pissed. maybe i am being crazy but i refuse to see one ever again because the last one tried to bribe me with a xanax (literally said "if i were to give you xanax…") and told me to get an std test after i told her i've been living with and dating the same guy for 3 years at the time. so i lied and said i would then just went to my car instead of the lab testing area after the appt. so many doctors do not care and just want your insurance money. so little is still known about women's health and even though i don't have issues like endo myself i know women who have been laughed at when they tell a gyno they think they have it. i also am curious about the conspiracies surrounding birth control even though i've taken it daily for years (it's great to not have a period anymore) and haven't had any side effects myself. i hope i continue to not have any issues so i never feel like i ever have to see one again. glad i can order bc online. i am never letting these sadists shove a speculum up me to get a look at my fucking cervix so they can roughly rub a dry ass q tip on it, i'm feeling sick just typing this out. let alone they end up with a result where they want to fucking biopsy it. leave my goddamned shit alone, you're not getting my fucking insurance money by torturing me, "a little pressure" and "some discomfort" my fucking ass. when i worked at a pharmacy i would see health history on some pts demographics and would often see "patient TOLERATED pap smear well". like wtf is that wording? my mom also had a horrible experience getting a breast exam, said it hurt so bad and on top of that the male doctor walked into the room while she was laying there shirtless and he immediately asked "do i know you?" like what the hell? she also had to get a breast biopsied and said it hurts to lift up her arms now because of the scar it left. so fuck that i am happily opting out of any sadistic doctor hurting me.
anyone else have bad experiences that made them mistrust gynos?

No. 1582711

>>1582708
I’m jealous homegirl, I want a gynecologist to bribe me with Xanax. Wondering if I can refuse to get my pap for long enough and state extreme anxiety as a cause and get some benzos out of it.

No. 1582716

>>1582708
Samefag but yeah I’ve had terrible experiences with gynecologists. The only place I’ve ever had a pap done that wasn’t weird and uncomfortable was by a nurse at my ghetto hometown’s planned parenthood. I’ll literally drive 3 hours and wait 2 months just to get my well woman exams done there cause I’ve had such bad experiences with other gynecological procedures. Couple years ago I had what turned out to be a RAGING yeast infection, my pussy was so swollen and in intense fucking pain and was the itchiest itchiness I’ve ever had to deal with in my life. The doctor at the urgent care insisted on doing a pelvic exam with a speculum shoved into me when I was so swollen and sore that even sitting down hurt. Thankfully my friend had given me a ton of xans and I basically had sedated myself before I went in. They tested me for STDs and bacterial vaginosis and it all came back negative, the only positive was yeast/candida. Had to take a couple oral antifungals but it went away completely in less than a week. I still feel like the pelvic was completely unnecessary and I’m thankful for having the forethought and ability to twilight sedate my own ass before that.

No. 1582718

>>1582711
ayrt, you're part of the problem.

No. 1582722

>>1582718
I literally can only deal with certain medical procedures like pelvic exams when I’ve essentially twilight sedated myself with street benzos. Ever since I tried to kill myself with prescribed to me benzos a few years ago, no doctors will give them to me despite my severe panic disorder/agoraphobia/ptsd, and despite the fact that my depression has been in remission for almost a year now. I’m also way too much of a hypochondriac to skip preventative healthcare procedures like Pap smears and blood draws and stuff. I can’t even get my blood drawn without benzos because literally just stepping foot into any medical facility jacks my heart rate up to like 150 bpm and I shake like a fucking chihuahua.

No. 1582724

>>1582716
yup it sounds totally unnecessary to me. all they really had to do was stick a q tip in you and send that to the lab. doctors like to do as many tests as possible for insurance money. i've worked in healthcare myself and it's no secret at all.

No. 1582727

>>1582722
i guess i kinda understand but doctors know women have a greater possibly of being health conscious and they like that because they can make money getting us to go through procedures we don't need. responding to your post >>1582711 again, idk might be worth a try but assuming the suicide attempt is on your medical record they may not want to do that. i just think it's unethical for doctors to bribe patients into unnecessary testing with a drug they know to be addicting for a lot of people.

No. 1582730

>>1582708
God, I had a speculum only once inside of me and it was terrible, the gyno tried to insert it like 4 times and couldn't get deep enough because it hurt me so much my body was moving away on its own from the pain. But I needed that pap to be done. She was telling me to relax a couple of times and no matter how I tried, I couldn't, I was just crying there, and then my insides hurt for the entire next day. I'm a virgin and I never plan on fucking men so I hope I will never have to endure this again. I know you can still get cervical cancer even without het sex but I hope I won't have to go to gyno as often as sexually active women

No. 1582735

>>1582730
i just don't ever go. i ignore any phone calls from the clinic, and never make appts. if they call me to make one and i pick up i tell them i have to look at my schedule and call them later, which i never do. but i genuinely do not have any current health concerns, if something seemed off i'd have to bite the bullet and make an appt.

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>>1582722
nta, but it makes me wanna kill myself every time I get a gyno who can't conceptualize that a woman might just not fucking be comfortable at the gyno
For me, it's because a gynecological nurse locked me in an exam room and violently raped me while utilizing the most terrifying speculum I've still ever seen in my life when I was 17, but you know, maybe they could just be nice to us because it's good to be nice to the patients

No. 1582755

>>1582751
https://forwomenseyesonly.com/
it seems that an alarming number of women have been mistreated in a space where we're falsely reassured that we're safe, they care about how we feel, and is supposed to be based in science. pap smears are only 71% accurate (absolutely abysmal- would you want to drive over a bridge where the measurements are only 71% correct), these doctors are sadists, even the female ones, and why should a woman feel safe at a gyno when i'm aware of so many stories from women IRL and online where they were treated like cattle.

No. 1582758

>>1582755
I swear to god they call me after every single pap smear saying something is wrong with it and it must be re-done
Also the rapist nurse was a female; she used her hand, hurt pretty bad

No. 1582761

>>1582735
Same here. The one time I got a call from my local clinic and decided to go, the woman before me came out crying and called her mom in the hallway begging for help because she was in so much pain, and everyone who worked there just ignored her. I walked out before they called my name. The poor girl was just sitting outside by then waiting for her mom to pick her up, sobbing.

No. 1582763

>>1582755
Yes, because it was spearheaded by sadistic moids with no empathy, targeting the most vulnerable women possible from the jump.
Nearly every culture has some sort of traditional "medicine woman" class in its history, but all of that was just done away with (and in some cases, branded "witchcraft"). In the modern day, we get the legacy of the scrote who abused female slaves, ranks of them believe certain groups of women don't feel pain to this day, most female-related diseases are a big fucking question mark that it seems like no one wants to investigate, the "husband stitch" in the west, female circumcision outside the west, etc etc. Why the fuck is that?

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>>1582758
oh and samefagging to add, at my latest well woman exam, they told me they couldn't find my IUD and took me off of the pill because they refused to believe I was taking lisinopril for my kidneys, she insisted that it can only be used to treat high blood pressure, which is why she refused to continue my pill, and I'm telling her I'm a type one diabetic you stupid asshole, I was spilling fucking protein in my urine, this problem was solved by an actual team of doctors when I was a child and she's just like nope, you know nothing, I know everything, come back in a month so I can go fishing for your IUD

No. 1582769

>>1582708
>some doctors say the annual pap smear is overkill and not even necessary
Where I am young healthy women don't go for pap smears at all (and yes I'm in a rich developed country etc), I 100% believe where that's common you're just being milked for money. You don't go for annual checkups for your lungs despite living in polluted cities either.

No. 1582770

>>1582708
Maybe not related to gynecology specifically, but I had to get checked by a gyno when I was only 11 years old. Doctors suspected there's something wrong with my appendix and I "needed" to be examined per rectum, ie she sticked her entire finger in my anus and it hurt so much I cried from pain, the next day they checked me like this two times, and during one of those examinations some nurse went inside the room and there were people outside the room and they could literally see me. I felt raped. I cried every time it was happening and the female doctor was telling me I'm overreacting and she said if I poop every day and it doesn't hurt then this examination shouldn't hurt me either because a finger is smaller than poop. Honestly I still feel traumatized from this

No. 1582771

>>1582769
nta, asking out of genuine curiosity, which is your country?

No. 1582772

>>1582770
Oh wow, okay, something similar to that happened to me too; not that bad, but I'm still all weird over it and no one fucking cares even in therapy
I thought I had broken my tailbone in 8th grade, and instead of giving me an X-ray, a doctor fucking felt me up and fingered my asshole with zero fucking warning
and 12 year old me was supposed to just go home and be cool
Didn't get an answer as to why I was in so much pain, but I did get my first asshole finger-blast, so that's fucking great.

No. 1582776

>>1582770
that's so fucking stupid, poop doesn't have fucking bones or muscles in it. bitch has never had severe constipation where you end up needing to shit extremely dry shit, which burns like hell. why do they always tell us it won't hurt, then when we say it hurts, they say we're lying or overreacting?

>>1582758
>>1582764
extremely fucked up, i'm sorry that happened to you. i don't know why these sick people enjoy making sure people feel that they have no autonomy.

>>1582772
what the hell? that's just wrong. when i was around the same age i also thought i broke or fractured my tailbone but turns out i was extremely constipated. they found out by simply feeling my abdomen and getting an x-ray. they had to have been aware how unnecessary doing that to you was, sickening.

No. 1582778

>>1582772
reminds me when i was about 12, i had to go to the doctor for what i think was a physical for school. for some reason we couldn't go to my normal doctor so we went to this facility, and the doctor was male. while he had me alone he wanted me to pull my pants all the way off while I was laying down on the table and i refused. my female doctor never asked of that, just unbutton so she can feel the pelvic area. he made me very uncomfortable and i wanted to leave. i remember afterwards my mom said she didn't like him, so he must have given off creep vibes in general. to this day i wish i knew anything about the medical places i visited as a kid so i can bash them and the doctors online if they are still practicing.

No. 1582785

>>1582708
I've luckily never had to go to the gyno but in my mind there's absolutely no fucking reason why they still use such invasive painful methods to test for deseases beside misoginy. It's 2023 and many women have to endure IUD insertion without sedation or anesthesia and have to get heavily fingered by a doctor for regular tests, that's insane. Also male gynos shouldn't exits, like what the fuck would they know?

>>1582772
>>1582770
It's weird how this is so common? This shit happened to me too. I was at the doctor for some stomach issues but I had made it clear that I pooped regularly and had no pain in my lower abdomen, but for some reason the doctor for fixated on that, told me to lay down on the bed thing and started shoving fingers up my ass with almost no warning to get my poop out. I felt so humiliated, it was painful too and completely unnecessary, I genuinely thought the guy just wanted to shove fingers in my ass. And then he just told me that there was nothing wrong and I could leave??

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No. 1582803

>>1582785
>Also male gynos shouldn't exist
agreed, there's something odd about it at the very least, at worst he's a creep

No. 1582909

>>1581274
durrrrrr i dont know anon, maybe try googling the several keywords ive dropped in my posts like >>1582332 has? OPTOGENETICS. jesus fucking christ.
>>1582330
i got blackout curtains because of this and it really helps.

No. 1583136

>>1571885
and if you are looking outside of SSRIs, wellbutrin was fantastic for my anxiety/depression but it gave me hand tremors. and now they are marketing a medication to treat the tremors. can you just fix society instead of making a bunch of drugs that momentarily mask the symptoms created by reality? fucking hell

No. 1583137

>>1573833
holy shit all of the vaxx posters: you are all mentally ill what the hell did i just read

No. 1583138

Feel so bad for you nonas, idk why America is so obsessed with smear tests but they're unnecessary if you've had the HPV vaxx because that prevents cervical cancer. They only offer them over 25 and start nagging at 30 in the UK, now they're talking about phasing them out. Doctors want MONEY more than anything else, if that wasn't true they would've become nurses. They've also been through training specifically designed to make them able to hurt people and ignore their pain

No. 1583141

>>1583137
idk nona what are you here to talk about, trannies or reptilians

No. 1583143

>>1583138
i live in the US and im >>1582708, same gyno told me to get the hpv vax and i was 22 at the time. i thought it was dumb because i've been in a monogamous relationship for years and it was obvious she just wanted my insurance money (literally told me to call my ins to ask if they would cover it and to get it if they do). i was like wtf i work bitch i'm not wasting time making an appt for a shot i don't need lmao

No. 1583148

>>1583143
Nta but I never got the hpv vax either. What really helped me make up my mind about not getting it is my sister had completely normal periods that were tolerable pain wise until her first hpv shot and literally right after that her cycle was never the same. She has her period like every 2 to 3 weeks and bad cramping. It could be unrelated but it seems like an odd coincidence. And she ended up getting hpv anyways despite getting the shots, so I thought fuck it what's the point.

No. 1583152

>>1583143
Ayrt, in bongland all 13yos have to receive the HPV jab & they do it a big mandatory vaxx day at school. It's one of the few I'm ok with since moids have it too and the purpose is preventing a female cancer. HPV is often symptomless which is why so many women catch it off their cheating nigel and don't find out until a routine smear test flags their cancer. Do what you like with that info, personally im happy with HPV jab & no smears ever but if I had no jab I'd do the smears

No. 1583154

>>1583148
this brings comfort. i remember i was a young teenager when it came out and there were advertisements everywhere, in magazines, on tv, online, all showing young girls or teenagers and young adults dancing around and stupid schiße like that "one less!". i remember my doctor telling me i should get it by the time I'm 18 but didn't push it. i never wanted it because i don't like shots and it never seemed like something relevant to me.

No. 1583156

>>1583152
routine smears often are inaccurate as fuck though

No. 1583161

these guys raised $40000 to make this documentary 12 years ago about gardasil but never came out with it. unfortunate because that vaccine really ruined a lot of lives

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About 15 years ago there was a thread on an onion imageboard and buried in the comments was someone was talking about how fungal infections are likely the cause to a lot of illnesses, mental health and such specifically. many years later this study came out and said the same thing https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/05/160504121327.htm
the poor diet and unhealthy lifestyles that most people have can contribute to weakened immune systems which makes susceptible to fungal infections, which can explain why everyone is a complete mental nightmare and why everyone thinks they're a tranny now. of course, medical or psych professionals do not think to treat for that, they just peddle drugs to get your money and keep you dumb, sedated, and suicidal. I think this is even more topical because of the candida auris infections that are popping up around the globe at present. C. auris is drug resistant and there are already professionals hollering about how it will be the "next pandemic"

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>>1583174
https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0007964
Not much money can be made off of treating fungal infections. It's typically not s reoccurring treatment as well. But "treat" a health condition with, say, an anti-psychotic, and you now have a customer for life. For the people with untreated fungal infections in poor countries, well, they don't care because they weren't going to be able to make money off of you to begin with.

No. 1583195

>>1583138
I believe this is misinformation. All HPV vaccines covered only specific strains that have the “highest risk” of causing cancer. You can still get cancer from other strains. Take your Pap smears and vaccines so you don’t have to get a shock from the doctor later on in life. Stay healthy!

No. 1583199

>>1583148
Some of the HPV vaccines are mRNA vaccines like the ones for covid, which also cause menstrual problems in women.

No. 1583217

Sorry if my info was wrong, but imo the extremely-lessened risk of cancer is not enough for me to choose a smear when condom use is enough to prevent HPV. Not to derail but some BC, and most makeup and fragrances are carcinogenic and we're encouraged to use them daily - if I choose not to use these products to avoid cancer, and also skip smears, does it break even? btw when does the mandatory sti testing scheme for men start? These uninvasive tests involving merely a spikey q tip shoved down the pp are bound to have a 100% uptake by men 18+ across the land

Anyway they're rolling out home testing in the UK so best of both worlds soon ig https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/02/nhs-gives-women-hpv-home-testing-kits-to-cut-cancer-deaths/
>>1583195

No. 1583255

>>1583137
You read tinfoils… in the tinfoil thread. Go suck big pharma cock somewhere else.

No. 1583280

>>1583183
This is interesting. Last of Us seemed silly when the fungus scientist at the beginning found out it was a fungal infection & immediately knew it was the end of the world and went to be with her family but I guess it was kind of a proportionate reaction? Atm there's a trend in the cold parts of EU of landlords/government denying and covering up "mold deaths", they only recently admitted that having a house full of black mold will harm or even kill people when a little boy died of mold exposure. His poor mother had to campaign to get the council to even admit they'd okayed the Hill House levels of mold in their council home, then campaign again to prove it was dangerous…

No. 1583286

>>1583195
My body isn't a cancer bomb and those tests mostly have false positives and exist to make drs money. Funny how men don't have medication or basic healthcare withheld unless they have a "well man" exam despite them having the same rate of reproductive cancer but nobody is talking down to them or campaigning as much as the establishment and sheep do to promote these outdated humiliating rape exams. Also lung and skin cancer are more common but we don't force and shame people to test for that as often either hmmm

No. 1583316

>>1583195
obvious bot or bait lmao

No. 1583318

>>1583286
yeah it's very telling how it's basically fine for men to not go to the doctor yearly to get their dicks fondled or asshole opened up and looked in yet women are pressured into it all the time.

No. 1583369

>>1583286
>>cancer bomb
hard agree, the double standards with women v men regarding cancer are insane. Imagine emotionally manipulative TV ads showing a grieving mum & kids, oh if only our dear Nigel had worn a shirt in the summer, but instead he selfishly spent 6 months with no sunscreen on his humongous shiny gunt and now he's dead! Just because he wanted a tan! Who will care for the children now? Or the same but with drinking beer every day (bowel cancer), or sitting around on the couch for years while his wife does housework (heart disease). I swear the only anti cancer ads I've seen where men are the victim are ball or prostate related ones, because I guess it gives you ED and that's a moid concern. I mean it's almost sexist against men how much they ignore how sick men get, in favour of focusing on scaring women about dying from comparatively rare illnesses imo.

No. 1583371

>>1583369
samefagging to say the big thing women's fatal diseases have in common is taking forever to be diagnosed, because male drs don't believe us. Not because we're weak ffs

No. 1583390

>>1583371
This is true, and not even just male doctors, doctors in general. Women have to fight to be heard and sometimes it never happens. You get told to get mammograms every year of other year after a certain age, or to go get finger raped every year, but bring up any thing wrong and you're hysterical it's not that bad, oh you're fine that's normal, oh you don't have this certain symptom so I'm not testing for that, oh silly female.
If you look at any video in any language talking about the disparity in which women are receiving healthcare, it is full of stories about how they, too, were not listened to, or how they were only listened to if a male told the symptoms and said she's unwell, or they weren't listened to until it was too late. The fact that females cannot get equal or quality healthcare across the board seems like some giant conspiracy in itself.

No. 1583409

I feel like the idea that "ancient Greeks(and other ancient societies) were cool with LGBT stuff and it was just hidden by evil historians" is some kind of psy-op to further normalize pedophilia. The truth is, greek same sex relationships was more like Afghan Becha bazi then anything else, where it's all about exploiting young boys. And those alleged gay relationships, like Achilles and Patroclus, probably only happened when Achilles was a teenager. The same goes for those relationships in ancient Greece and Rome. It was always a young boy with an older, powerful man who had some kind of authority over him, like a teacher, master, or just a citizen and his slave

No. 1583411

>>1583318
I’ve never had an obgyn satisfactorily explain what valuable info they get from fingerblasting me once a year. They could just look if they want to confirm I’m not suffering from an infection or something. can’t see shit with your fingers anyway, blindly reaching around in there and for what? I honestly prefer the speculum and a quick look. Far as I can tell fingering only confirms that I do in fact have organs inside me but they could have poked me from outside my body and found that out.

No. 1583595

>>1583409
Oh, the people who go the hardest for Graeco-Roman "queer" shit absolutely know what they're doing. Same with the fans of Oscar Wilde and his ilk with "the love that dare not speak its name". Both these things have been tumblr-ised into cutesy lil "we were always here" type statements, and I do believe some people are genuinely just a bit dim and take these things at face value without doing any research. Then there's the "you're just calling them nonces because they're gay" shit, this usually comes from troons and libfems who think they're doing the right thing by "fighting homophobia" or playing it off as "but the culture was so much different then!". These people are culpable to a degree, but I think the main issue is that they haven't peaked on liberal feminism being a huge scam that literally has us defending 2000 y/o nonces. LGBT culture also has this problem. They'll screech about Catholic priests who preach homophobia and then go and rape their altar boys in one sentence. Then defend ancient Romans and Greeks raping their underage slaves in the next sentence. Absolute madness. Slight tangent, but I'm a lesbian and started sneaking into gay bars when I was 15, back in 2006. The fact that not only were us kids welcomed by punters and staff alike, but we were also openly flirted with proves to me that the whole damn culture is rotten. I didn't see it at the time, I was told that I was "mature" and "wise beyond my years". I thought I was so damn cool for sleeping with older women. It took me decades to unpack just how fucked up it all was. Of course, I'm not condemning all SSA people. But there are huge problems in the wider community, and it's evident in how damn easy it is to present Graeco-Roman rapist moids as these forward-thinking, progressive people that evil historians tried to erase.

No. 1583763

>>1581122
All this time I thought it was just my imagination and it were the tinted vehicle’s’ windows making that blue/purple effect while riding with company I don’t drive due to a disability. It kinda looked cool in a cyberpunk way ngl

No. 1583787

>>1583183
>research about fungal infections
>researcher surname is Morel
i just had to point out how funny that is

No. 1583793

>>1583411
at the very least, if they wanted to be more convincting they could urge women to only go if they think something is wrong. but nope, most women (at least in burgerland where i am from) have gotten meme'd into believing there is likely something wrong with our vaginas even if we feel fine because we're too stupid to know, that if we're sick at all they MUST pry into our vaginas as roughly as possible while ignoring any pain the pt feels (or say she is exaggerating), etc. just look at the tranny bullshit- i've NEVER seen a gyno stand up that women are women and "trans women" are men but i've seen plenty of them welcome TIMs into their offices with open arms. says everything we need to fucking know. both male and female gynos (with the exception of a few good female ones that i hope exist) hate women and want to hurt us and make money from it.

No. 1583802

>>1583409
>>1583595
liberal feminism becoming mainstream was a huge mistake. they love to boast that gay male relationships were a thing back then but always conveniently leave out that it often was between an adult male and a young teen boy, it was a huge power imbalance, and it was purely sexual in nature. libfems are coomers' patsys.

No. 1583804

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https://archive.is/Eb79S
>In 2017, Epstein contacted Gates about the Russian bridge player, years after the relationship had ended, according to people familiar with the matter. He sent an email to Gates asking to be reimbursed for the costs of Antonova’s coding school, the people said.
>The sum was immaterial for the two men and the tone of the message was that Epstein knew about the affair and could expose it, the people said.
>The spokeswoman for Gates said he didn’t make a payment. “Mr. Gates had no financial dealings with Epstein,” she said.
>Days before he died in 2019, Epstein changed his will and named Nikolic as a backup executor. Nikolic said Epstein didn’t discuss the idea with him beforehand, and that he subsequently declined to serve.
>“He couldn’t have listed Bill because that would have been too obvious, so he chose me,” he said. “I have come to believe it was likely a retaliatory move against Bill Gates.
so more clear now about their relationship
i wonder when we will see more discussion about how he was/is a federal agent and not dead afterall . what does ol bill know that we dont

No. 1583813

>>1583802
>libfems are coomers' patsys
Hit the nail on the head, nona. I know it's been covered before ad nauseam, but it really pisses me off how everything shilled as "empowering" is beneficial to scrotes: dressing in titillating clothing, cosmetic surgery, having casual sex, open relationships/polyamory, going on BC and fucking up your hormones so Nigel can hit it raw, degrading sex acts like choking and slapping, posting borderline softcore porn on social media, posting ACTUAL porn on social media, "sex work", etc etc etc. Then in the past few years I've started seeing "dad bod" this and "short king" that, it's rise of the fucking uggos. I hate seeing my straight friends fall for this shit, but trying to broach these subjects in a critical manner, or even with genuine concern is liable to start a full-blown argument. Scrotes have done an excellent job of painting anyone critical of these things as a prude, "Karen", misogynist (lol), tradwife, conservative, bitter dyke, terven feminazi and sometimes: actual fucking Nazis. I could almost laugh at the absurdity of it all, if it wasn't so depressing to have three younger sisters growing up in this absolute hellscape for women.

No. 1583817

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Does anyone has a source on that and what that might be? Scary cryptid shit

No. 1583819

>>1583817
>source on what this might be?
Your mom

No. 1583821

>>1583819
My mom is not a monke

No. 1583834

>>1583817
i'm not pressing play

No. 1583841

>>1583834
It's just some weird hands quickly grabbing a toddler from its bed. I don't know if it's fake or not but it's unsettling foe me for some reason.

No. 1583842

>>1583817
This reminds me of a documentary I watched about the possibility of giant spiders living in the Amazon rain forest. The local tribe always insisted on building their huts with high side walls to stop the spiders from getting inside but the researchers couldn't find any spiders that big. The way whatever that is moves, reminds me of a spider attacking prey that's caught in it's web.

No. 1583862

>>1583813
it's crazy how these idiots try to just paint you into a box with a big fat label on it too. so what if i'm a prude, i am just me. i don't really label myself a feminist or a trad tard, i just really have gotten sick of perverts. i made mistakes and ruined my wellbeing from giving perverts what they want in the past. i am so angry at myself and it has created my own mental bumps in my current longterm relationship. if there is anything i could contribute to the world it is that girls and young women are protected from all of this. perversion is a spiritual sickness and it afflicts anyone who entertains it as a positive thing. sex is not evil of course. but americans need to reassess how our overly sex positive society has crossed the line into pure perversion which has distorted so much. i was at my niece's dance recital earlier today and i had to stop myself from crying about ten times. i just don't want any of them to ever feel the way i do about myself due to my mistakes. it is so degrading to have men ever leave a bruise on your body. i lost consciousness once from being choked. it does not matter if you consent to it. it's not kinky or fun, it is traumatizing once you stop indulging, distance yourself, and think about it. i feel this applies to promiscuity, making porn, bdsm, etc. think of all the women who have been in those situations because they did not ever have a choice. i just want women who fell into those traps to get out of them asap, it is simply hurting them and many are in denial.

No. 1583885

>>1583842
Well that is horrifying.

No. 1583982

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>>1583595
Reminds me of George Takei and RuPaul just casually talking about being raped and not understanding how fucked up it was.

No. 1583988

>>1583793
Ayrt, I had a fantastic gynecologist the last couple years, magic hands I literally never felt any discomfort with her but even so she couldn’t actually diagnose anything without an ultrasound wand. Something would have to be so wrong for her to feel it blindly, I would know. She was good but even she didn’t have any other reason but feeling my organs and giving me useless information like “your uterus tips back not forward”— doesn’t mean anything in terms of my health and it’s not a problem but she just wanted me to know I guess. Lol wow ok cool

No. 1583990

>>1583409
It certain Greek City states, Nobles had to hire bodyguards to protect their teen sons, because Pedastry was that common in ancient Greece.

No. 1584002

>>1583409
Men are men no matter sexuality, the majority don't give a fuck that all of this is about children being raped by adult men.

No. 1584010

>>1583595
I agree with you, it's really bad. Can I ask what's the thing with Oscar Wilde? I only heard he was gay or bi and "it wasn't acceptable in his time". Mind sharing anything about pedophilia connection if it's there? Asking out of curiosity since I know of the pederasty connection but didn't hear about it in regards to Wilde, as I don't know much about his life anyway.

No. 1584078

>>1583793
Yep, exactly. Might sound extreme but I stopped trying to access healthcare completely back in October, for my mental health. I figured if I got a huge wound or fever that won't stop, then I'll go to the hospital & see if I survive (inner city NHS aka basically jail), otherwise I'll care for any medical issues at home using common sense/old wives tale knowledge etc. So a week ago I woke up with a UTI that I could feel was affecting my kidneys, no fever. Had 2 choices: wait 22+ hours on the floor in a&e with a load of drunk moids and no access to food or water, to maybe be given antibiotics at the end if I'm lucky, otherwise sent home and told it's period pain. Option b: use Boots (like Sally's) online drugs service, then drink loads of clean water & cranberry juice in my calm, safe home while waiting the 5 days it would take to get my medicine. I've been up all night with the pain & blood piss for a couple of days, but now I'm getting better & may not even need the antibiotics. I genuinely believe I was safer this way, and I didn't feel like a farm animal or like I was being forced to put myself in danger. My way has even cost less if you factor in travel, although still cost about £40 all in.

Also NO I'm not going to attempt to "follow this up" with a doctor because even showing them the illness you currently have is impossible. If my kidneys are damaged now, they're damaged, like those of 1 in 10 of all my women ancestors, some of whom still lived happy lives. I'll also die one day. Shrug.
>>1583862
Nonnie I wish I could hug you, so many good, kind women like you feel this way and it's awful. I suspect the knowledge we were tricked by society is why so many women are turning to Catholicism/Islam, although imo Catholicism moreso since it glorifies protecting yourself from all men vs being protected by a man. Both have huge flaws but are apparently preferable to zoomers than the libfem lifestyle, I support any rejection of that.

No. 1584092

>>1583982
This is what I mean when I say most men don't suffer rape, at least conciously. This faggot really said he was raped by a pedophile and talks about it like it was the hookup of his life. What the fuck is wrong with men? Are they so far into their pornsickness that they can't even tell when they're being raped? Is it just another kink for them? And then they project these feelings onto women, believing that rape is just sex and not that serious. What defective beings.

No. 1584121

>>1584092
Unfortunately, many women are also unable to recognize the trauma they have experienced. For example, my aunt became pregnant at the age of 14 and didn't fully comprehend how damaging it was. She genuinely believed it was her own choice. I think this is a common coping mechanism for victims to try to come to terms with their abuse by convincing themselves that it was their choice. The communities(gay, libfem, kink) they surrounded themselves also reinforce this belief.

No. 1584135

>>1584010
>>1584092
>>1584121
Not sure if Oscar Wilde was a confirmed nonce but Stephen Fry is a big fan of him, and Fry also casually talked about how he was raped at 13 or 14 by an older boy - that's part of the normal culture at posh UK boarding schools. He said he enjoyed it. The idea is you get raped in year 7 or 8, then a couple years later youre the one raping the younger boys, so it's fine (????) It's literally called fagging & that's where the word fag comes from. Wilde went to posh schools too so presumably he was the same. All our male prime ministers would have been "fags" in this manner. theres a well known story that Boris Johnson and David Cameron didn't get on at school because of some kind of fag tension, I guess maybe David was bummed by Boris but became PM first, which isn't how the hierarchy is supposed to work, so Boris hated him & began his quest to be PM to show him he'd do it better. Seriously, it's not even tinfoil, it's in political biographies etc. (Reposted, wrote 24 not 24 - Fry's husband was 24ish when he married the 60 something Fry)

No. 1584155

>>1582708
Honestly, my sister has had endometriosis probably since she was 12, has been to a gynecologist yearly, and somehow they never knew she had it? What's the point, then? My sisters tell me I have to go, but I'm not going I am terrified at the idea. If zero gynecologists could find my sister's endometriosis and it took a decade later of experiencing random abdominal pain that got her taken to the hospital, doctor shopping, and multiple camera scopes going inside her ass and bellybutton to find endometriosis growing all inside her then what's the point? My sister is like, you have to check if you're okay in there what if you have cancer like mom? Well, they didn't find my sister's endometriosis and I don't know if my mom went to the gyno but if she did, they didn't find her cancer, either. Women's health used to be a broader, more well-known subject in like the middle ages (or so I've read?) but by the time of the Renaissance, women weren't allowed to learn about our own anatomy and that job went to males. Fuck the gyno, even hearing about what a 'normal checkup' is like just makes me want to cry. Sounds terrifying.

No. 1584163

>>1584135
>It's literally called fagging
Can't believe Black Butler was a documentary all along.

No. 1584172

>>1584155
afaik they're checking the parts are in the right places, with no foreign bodies up there, because if they find these things you may be infertile - they check dairy cows the same way well actually they go in through the rectum to avoid damaging the goods and as regularly, because without the ability to reproduce, they're worthless. They don't care if they cow has stuff like endometriosis or heavy periods because that won't prevent a birth, so they don't check for it. The state views women as being for breeding, that's all.

No. 1584178

>>1584163
I thought that too KEK
men are such faggots

No. 1584179

>>1584135
>that's part of the normal culture at posh UK boarding schools. He said he enjoyed it. The idea is you get raped in year 7 or 8, then a couple years later youre the one raping the younger boys, so it's fine (????) It's literally called fagging & that's where the word fag comes from. Wilde went to posh schools too so presumably he was the same. All our male prime ministers would have been "fags" in this manner
Jen Izaakson abd Hannah Berrelli talked about this in the redfem podcast and I can't speak for the UK but this an open secret with madrasas(Islamic schools) the head teacher rapes the boys, the boys grow up and rape the younger boys, most parents just abandon their kids in these madrassa's and you can't ever file a complaint, because one fatwa from these molvis will result in an entire mob coming and attacking you and beating you to death.

No. 1584183

>>1584179
England has lots of madrasas too & "scandals" pop up now and then. Our media don't like to draw attention to non-WASP sex crimes, although statistically ofc we have more non-muslim rapists than muslim since our moids are majority white. More often it's stories of kids being beaten at the schools, but if they're spanking them then arguably this is SA anyway.

No. 1584197

>>1583802
Liberal feminism and defending gay men's right are two different things, liberal feminism has its own flaws but by definition it has nothing to do with homosexual or male rights.

No. 1584204

>>1584155
Nona the gyno is very unpleasant but if you’re a woman in your mid 20s or older you should absolutely be going for annual Pap smears. Find a female gynecologist that you like, there are plenty of them. You don’t have to see a scrote doctor.

No. 1584221

>>1584155
>>1584172
if you have deep infiltrating endometriosis it can actually kill you, so if this runs in your family, please go to a gyn. Find a dr who specializes in it. I only remember one exam where I had a rectal examination (it was quick). They did do transvaginal ultrasound, but a woman did it and explained to me what would happen. I did not find this painful. None of it was comfortable but the swab part (the worst) was done quickly each time.

They don't tell you this, but you can get serious intestinal problems from deep endometriosis. A piece of my intestine telescoped into another piece, causing an obstruction. I didn't go to the hospital for days because I thought I was just ill with some GI thing (I was vomiting bile and had on/off cramps). When I went, I had emergency surgery that day and they had to resect my intestine because parts had become necrotic.

I'm sorry to put this in tinfoil thread and actually I agree with you both more or less, but please if endo runs in your family, get checked out. The best treatment is excision surgery (not cauterization).

No. 1584222

>>1584204
Nta but maybe we would all go if they didn't insist on fingering every woman that goes into their office even if it's basically useless. It's ridiculous that women have to get fingered by strangers if they want to know if they're healthy or not, it's like they're dangling your health in front of you but the price is annual humiliating visits where a doctor (worse if it's male) gets to shove fingers up your vagina or ass and then tells you "k let's do this other less invasive and rapey test that's actually the only one kinda capable of diagnosing something".

No. 1584225

>>1571885
>hypersexuality
Holy shit so that’s why I was masturbating like 8 times a day the first week of my antidepressant withdrawal. This makes so much sense.
Psychiatry is still such an experimental field. Psychiatrists will put their adolescent patients on antidepressants without being fully aware of all of the potential side effects themselves. You’d think if a patient complains of horrible issues that arise after they are on a given medication that the psychiatrist’s response would be to take them off it and try something else, but that’s usually not what they do. Instead they will often just prescribe MORE drugs in an attempt to mask the negative side effects. But of course, more drugs = more side effects.
I was prescribed effexor as a child in the hospital and I just recently came completely off of it, close to 10 years later. It feels like I missed out on a decade of my life.

No. 1584226

>>1584204
Where do you live nona? I don't think it's possible to choose the doctor you see in a lot of countries, let alone whether they're male or female. Where I live has free healthcare but you can be denied care altogether if you refuse to be treated by the doctor you're given.

No. 1584227

>>1584204
Let the woman free her cunt from the Matrix if she wants to.
I don't understand people who come to the tinfoil thread to give totally mainstream takes everyone hears all the time

No. 1584228

>>1584221
ayrt, thanks for the info, sorry to hear you've gone through all that. Blog but I've been getting tested for mysterious ab pain for years at this point, no dr ever suggested endo or mentioned that it exists at all but I've had a TV ultrasound to look at my ovaries so hopefully that would've caught the endo if I had it.

No. 1584230

>>1584226
Tbh I didn’t think of that at all when writing that comment, thank you for providing me with that perspective nona. I live in the US and have a decent amount of money so I was able to do some consultation appointments with a couple female gynecologists where they didn’t touch me, we just talked so I could get a feel for if I felt safe around them. After that I just picked my favorite one.
I understand that comes from a place of privilege, I know that with the NHS in the UK and other socialized healthcare systems you can’t be picky, and depending on the practice you go to they can still use some barbaric and antiquated methods of examination. My mom was traumatized by a horrible gynecologist as a young adult. She theorizes that the doctor did an unnecessary treatment and hurt her on purpose because of some perceived slight.
I just wish all women could get sufficient gynecological that doesn’t traumatize them. It should be a human right imo. But I understand that it’s not reality. I’m sorry to all the nonas that have been hurt by gynos.

No. 1584236

>>1584230
ayrt, not to be mean but that first bit made me chuckle since in the UK, just that first meeting with a private gyno would cost around £300 with no insurance, so you wouldn't go just for a chat haha. if you did have insurance + no preexisting conditions, you'd need to pay £50ish to your NHS GP to review your record to prove no abdomen-related preexisting, this takes about 6 weeks regardless of what they find. Then you send those docs to your insurer, wait more, and then get a heavily discounted but still not free appointment with a gyno of their choice maybe 1 or 2 months later. That's my experience with dermatology anyway, I'd assume gyno would be worse since it's more popular. All private drs in the UK have to do NHS work too, so waiting times are still fairly bad, but often 10 times quicker than NHS waits.

No. 1584237

>>1584227
Over on /g/ there is someone trying to convince people to have children in the childfree thread. Further up in this thread there is an angry provaxxer upset there is any vax critical discussion. These are the bleats of people that can't handle their narrative being challenged these are the types that want everyone to live the same as them. Unironic sheep

No. 1584242

>>1584237
I was just saying that it’s important to get checked for cervical cancer regularly if you can, since I’ve known women who’ve died from it after never seeing the gynecologist. Ffs. I’m sorry for coming at that nona from my narrow perspective but it really just came from a place of concern

No. 1584246

>>1584237
>vax critical discussion
most of "vax critical" discussion I see is legit tinfoil and anything constructive gets swept by waves of people posting garbage like >>1574271 and >>1574676

No. 1584248

>>1584246
oh yeah and >>1574230 telling people to take ivermectin and pray to god kek some of you are legit retard and this thread is the containment

No. 1584251

While trying not to fall for govt psyops you nonas have fallen for the religious one instead. The whole body/soul(or mind, for atheists) duality is the same thing that trannies believe. If you see yourself as parts instead of a whole being you’re easier to control, be marketed to and you’re more succeptible to harmful ideas. Your physical, mental and emotional state are all interconnected and all yours, you can’t have one without the others. There is no mind or soul without your body, they can’t be extracted or taken. They’re all a part of you. The reason other people may appear dull or mindless is often because they have compartmentalised themselves in order to survive and can’t connect with others freely. And the way to save yourselves from that is to nurture yourself fully, to take care of your needs and to be aware of yourself as a whole, your wants and needs, your strengths and weaknesses.
Just be aware and be strong. Connect with people more and you’ll see it’s not so bleak. It’s much easier to accept whatever horrible things the rich and powerful inflict on us if you believe you’ve lost your soul or people around you are mindless. Don’t let them make you believe you are nothing, that people around you are nothing, please.

No. 1584253

>>1584237
>if you disagree with the general public of an echo chamber, you're the sheep
Kek. If you can't argue your point and have to accuse people who disagree with unjustified stuff, you're probably in the wrong.

No. 1584260

>>1584246
I posted the brain holes image, and that's from the medical study I linked to, so take it up with Drs Evan H. Einstein and Andia Shahzadi if you think they're lying. The other image is total misinformation & easily disprovable.

No. 1584263

>>1584251
kek yes nona but the bible agrees with you
"Don't you know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? … The temple of God is holy, which temple you are” (1 Corinthians 3:16–17)

No. 1584274

Ot sorry but I think I’m being watched through my laptop screen, I won’t blogpost about all the “coincidences” but it’s starting to freak me out. I downloaded malwarebytes but it found nothing. Has anyone else experienced this or know any stories about it? What should I do?

No. 1584279

>>1584197
it doesn't matter what libfem is actually about, many milennials and zoomers where i live that have extremely libfem views support anything pro gay or pro trans. it doesn't mean that they actually understand feminism at all they are just pro anything that seems progressive on the surface.

No. 1584280

>>1584204
lol, never

No. 1584284

>>1584274
the actual screen can't have cameras in it since it's too thin, and I'm guessing you've already covered your front cam. do you mean someone can see what's on your screen? If so, yes that's very possible, either replace your laptop & don't do the "transfer your shit to your new device" process, or reformat it (backing up your saves beforehand obvs). You can also set up something called a pihole, it lets you see every request to and from your machine including failed access attempts, and you can can record the IP & block them.


If you mean an actual camera is looking at you, then your stalker has access to your property, in which case it's more likely the camera is in the room not the computer. Get a device detector.

No. 1584294

>>1584284
Sorry I should have been more specific, like watching my screen not me (I have my laptop camera covered) but this is still good advice, thank you

No. 1584296

>>1584279
>zoomers
I saw a group of zoomers harassing an AGP at a local festival. They were pushing him around and calling him a creep and pedo. No one did anything to stop it. It makes me wonder if zoomers are going to become less tolerant of troons over time because they are the main victims of perverted men in dresses.

>>1584294
If you mean that someone is watching the screen as you use the laptop, you can buy privacy overlays for the screen that stop anyone from being able to see what you're looking at and to see the screen they must be directly in front of it.

No. 1584297

I feel like I’m losing my mind. I don’t know how else to explain it, as in they are tracking my mouse movements and my keystrokes and can see everything I am doing on my laptop remotely

No. 1584303

>>1584297
there is a type of malware. best you can do is run antivirus software but it sounds like you’ve already done that, or you can take it in to a computer repair shop so they can remove any malware for you. If that doesn’t work, then getting a new computer and not transferring any data like that other anon said is a safe bet.

No. 1584313

>>1584297
Use Linux. It's far more secure than windows and the software they're using won't work.

No. 1584320

>>1584204
If I never had sex and I never plan to fuck a scrote why would I go? Like the risk of cervical cancer is super low

No. 1584326

>>1584010
Yeah he was a nonce. In his trials it was mentioned that he would have young boys procured for him. His main boyfriend was also significantly younger than him. There was a big scandal in the Victorian period where rich and high profile men were caught going to brothels to have sex with really young boys. I can't remember what the scandal was called though but I'm pretty sure there were open rumours of Wilde frequenting places like that.

No. 1584328

>>1584320
Same here. I wonder how people like >>1584204 manage to read all the comments from women who have been traumatized and raped by their gyno and feel the need to post a "just find the right one uwu" comment. How can one be so tone deaf?

No. 1584331

>>1584296
>I saw a group of zoomers harassing an AGP at a local festival
absolutely based. i'm an older zoomer and have noticed there's outwardly far-left zoomers, more conservative ones, and a large group of them doesn't care about politics and wants to be as apolitical as possible

No. 1584341

>>1584328
I apologized for being narrow minded and tone deaf but I’m not sorry for telling you guys to get your pussy checked out. Have had friends and peers pass away from uterine and cervical cancer. If you don’t think you’re at risk and if the potential trauma is too much for you to bear then I’m not going to argue with you. I even talked about how my mom was traumatized by some sociopathic gynecologist so I get it. I’m scared as fuck and distrustful of them too, that’s why it took me so long to find one I trusted enough to let touch me. This thread really is a containment thread for the biggest fucking autists

No. 1584345

>>1584297
If it's a WFH computer then the machine probably came preinstalled with software to do exactly what you're describing - if your stalker is a colleague & they would have legitimate access to this program, then there's your answer. You can't see the software anywhere on the computer & malware scanner won't remove it since it's meant to be there. I recommended reformatting since that "factory resets" the machine. But you might get fired for doing that if it's a work computer kek. If the computer was bought for you by someone who works with computers or owns a company that uses this software, they could also have put the type of tracking software I'm talking about on there. Alternatively, it's possible to trick someone into installing a keylogger eg via a phishing email, but then I reckon you could catch that via a pihole or equivalent. Ok I'll try to put a lid on my off topic autism now, sorry nonas. Also sorry this is happening to you nona.

No. 1584351

>>1584341
Girl shut up and leave the thread already. no one cares

No. 1584355

>>1584341
the problem is being told to get it checked out, with the implication that if we don't, we'll die. If I got checked every year, and they missed cancer and I died, that wouldn't be my fault. If I choose NOT to go through the examination, and then die of cervical cancer, I still didn't choose to die. Life doesn't work like that. We don't apply that logic to male behaviour either, unless we're talking about like gang crime or something

No. 1584358

Just want to add my 2 cents and say nothing bad has ever happened to me at the gynecologist and I've never been subjected to multiple unnecessary tests. I'm early 30's in age and have been going regularly since I started menstruating at 13. I've even seen many different gynos and all have been respectful and curteous. I'm so sorry to those who are suffering and have bern mistreated. I encourage anyone who has been wronged to file complaints, even if it may seem fruitless. Paper trails are good for shit like this.

No. 1584359

>>1584358
did they ever find anything wrong though?

No. 1584361

>>1584359
Yes, cysts on my ovaries.

No. 1584362

>>1584359
Also sebaceous cysts on the entrance(ish) of my vagina

No. 1584376

>>1584222
Nta but uh, yeah. If you don't monitor your health, bad things can happen. Can't really play the "b b but males wouldn't have to do that" -you're speaking in hypotheticals. What if women didn't have internal sex organs? What if we never needed to ever see doctors? What if the fucking sky was purple? Irrelevant.

No. 1584423

>>1584222
I mean, there's only so many ways you can figure out what's going on in there.. they're going to have to use fingers and painful tools but if you're a grown woman you just have to grin and bare that one. Shop around for a female OB/GYN.i personally think men shouldn't be allowed to practice in that field

No. 1584432

>>1584359
Sorry, I already posted about the cysts but also they found tissue that was left over/ had not been expelled properly from my medical abortion. Obviously that's a lot more specific than a general check-up, but I thought it would be important to add, since that could have been extremely bad if I didn't let them do the necessary vaginal ultrasound.

>>1584351
She's looking out for you asshole, in the best way she knows how. No need for that

No. 1584434

>>1584376
What are you talking about? I didn't speak in hypotheticals and I didn't even mention men. I'm just saying the procedures are unnecessarily humiliating and painful (though pain is the lesser problem imo, IF it isn't done on purpose). The truth is that you can't find much by roughly fingering around, you're going to have to use more specific tools (which feel less rapey if used properly) and ultrasounds.

>>1584423
>I mean, there's only so many ways you can figure out what's going on in there..
Yeah, and fingering isn't a good one, sorry. Again, women are being told "either you accept to get finger raped once a year or more (and I get to cause you more pain if I don't like you very much) or you can fuck off and die of something preventable, and it's YOUR fault. Also I will do tests only after I finger you but they won't be completely accurate". It's insane, and frankly it's vile to call women immature if they don't feel like going through that. And not everyone can just "shop around" and spend tons of money to maybe find one decent person that decides to not stick their hands in your vaginas just for the hell of it.

No. 1584446

i think Pewdiepie's & Marzia's baby is male, not bc of the "hint" he gave, but bc men are so fucking weird about the race of the men women sleep with, even when they're anti-racist, and are even weirder about their daughter's sex lives, so i think that Pewdiepie wouldn't have stayed in Japan if he knew he's having a girl bc he would have to come to terms with her fucking an Asian male.(racebaiting)

No. 1584450

>>1584446
Take it to /snow/, newfriend.

No. 1584454

>>1584434
>What are you talking about?
Weeeelllllp I'm an idiot and completely misread what you wrote. I will humbly take this L. I'm sorry nonna.

No. 1584458

>>1584434
I'm genuinely asking how you know that you can't find much by feeling with a finger? I feel like that's probably the least invasive (small finger compared to larger tools) and best way to initially begin screening for issues. You all are most certainly correct about it being bullshit and there very likely being a less-invasive way to do this which has not been studied, much less developed. I also stupidly am only speaking from an American perspective, and had not considered nonnies in other countries. For that I apologize.

No. 1584468

>>1571885
I’ve never experienced withdrawal from SSRIs, I’ve stopped Zoloft cold turkey three times, and Prozac cold turkey twice. Am I built different, nonnas?? The only withdrawals I’ve ever experienced have been from THC and caffeine. I do get occasional brain zaps while taking my Zoloft but not really when I stop taking it?

>>1583136
Wellbutrin also gave me extreme tremors all over my body but especially my hands. Also extremely extremely unbelievably dry fucking mouth.

No. 1584481

>>1584204
I've known people who had false positives with the samples from cervex scraping, and one who actually did have it but only got lucky that it was found - not through standard screening. There is no reason to specifically target this one single organ if you're not having sex and exposing yourself to HPV, and those are the people who are anxious about the procedure. Normies just can't comprehend being a permanent virgin by choice and can't sympathize so you just tell us to grin and bear getting medically raped because it makes you feel better about having to endure it yourself. Why is it always this one issue that everyone freaks out over? Annual bloodtest? Who gives a shit. Annual rape? STOP BEING A CHILD, SPREAD EM AND TAKE IT OR ELSE.

No. 1584490

>>1584228
unfortunately exploratory laparoscopy is the only way to diagnose some endo, but if it's in certain places they can see it on TV ultrasound. Just don't want my nonnies dying. Because I knew I had endo, but I never knew it could cause such a life-threatening condition. I was just dealing with the pain since I hate hormones

No. 1584513

>>1583982
Or onion boi getting molested at summer camp…which probably explains a lot of things.

No. 1584578

>>1584341
yes, now run along and close the tab, we'd rather discuss this without someone trying to convince us we need to get fingerfucked by a doctor every year, that already happens everywhere else

No. 1584580

>>1584481
>Why is it always this one issue that everyone freaks out over?
exactly the reason you gave, it's just like women who feel the need to pressure women who say they don't want to have kids into doing so. they went through hell and instead of talking about it or coping with it in a constructive way, they try to talk other women into going through that same hell, ESPECIALLY if they know the risks and truth of it and resist it. misery loves company.

No. 1584585

>>1584580
samefagging to say i am aware not all pregnancies and childbirth are traumatizing (my mom says she loved being pregnant and childbirth hurt but had no complications and i totally trust her) but it seems that for women where it was a terrible experience that it was something that they couldn't/shouldn't talk about up until recently. even lately some people think miscarriage rates are rising but i think it could be due to women actually feeling more comfortable nowadays to even mention it or discuss it if they want to.

No. 1584763

>>1584446
but they just arrived there though.. and their child will not have relationships until like 16 years later so it's not like they have to move out immediately. also, living in any western country these days absolutely does not ensure that your child will date someone of the same race. not saying you're wrong about the baby's sex though, what was the hint?

No. 1584769

>>1584763
that's why i said he wouldn't have stayed in Japan, maybe it's like what you said that he'll move out later on(probably make for interesting conversation later on in life, talking with fellow Swede or Italian students, "not to brag but i lived in Japan for 14/whatever years")
>living in any western country these days absolutely does not ensure that your child will date someone of the same race
did you mean eastern?
>what was the hint?
even in that supposed gender reveal video, Felix doesn't reveal the sex but he claims that he'll leaves hints, and one such hint (in the video) seems to be the Children's Day celebration that he records, which used to be only for male children.
The article i reference: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/pewdiepie-fans-think-theyve-discovered-his-babys-gender-2136578/

No. 1584771

>>1584769
samefag, i hope that it's male, otherwise this weeb has decided to move to one of the worst possible places to raise a obviously foreign looking daughter.

No. 1584817

>>1584769
oh yeah that's a pretty big hint then. i agree with you it's better that they're having a male anyway.
>did you mean eastern?
i meant that even if he moves back to the uk or italy or whatever that doesn't ensure his child will not date someone of a different race, western countries are very diverse nowadays, though of course there's a higher chance than in japan i guess.

No. 1584820

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kek

No. 1584831


No. 1584834

>>1584481
Agreed nona, although it's not just virgins who are refusing to be intimately examined, there's SA survivors (sometimes a female gyno wouldnt lessen the anxiety either), women who might (rightly) fear that there could be a camera in the room remember many gynos share offices with other drs/moid staff, spycams have been found literally everywhere women undress, religious women who trust that it's God's plan if he wants to kill them with cervical cancer and being fingered won't change that, and children who have absolutely no need to be examined. I'm glad that one nonas abortion issue was caught, but surely you'd go if you'd had that procedure anyway - finding cysts on an ovary or some pussy spots that literally every woman has is not worth exposing yourself, in some women's view. I don't understand why we can at least pretend to respect a woman's choice to never show her hair, or get face tattoos, or circumcise her son, but not to decide who puts their hands inside her??? If it's sex then she can choose, if it's not enjoyable then she can't choose, what clown world logic is this

No. 1584835

>>1584820
I don't know about the rest of you, but in my country, the CIA helped overthrow our democratically elected socialist Prime Minister and replaced him with an Islamic dictator who ruled for a decade and set our progress back by 500 years and I'm sure if any if your from the third world its more or less the same story as well.

No. 1584838

>>1584835
leeeeeet's play Guess the Warcrime game show jingle

No. 1584842

>>1584834
Forgot to add there's also the hospital trip itself. Can only speak for the UK but even the fanciest "gyno office" will still just be a dark room in a busy hospital, which (unless it's a private hospital maybe) is kind of dangerous to visit. There's the risk of catching a cold or COVID, but also they're becoming violent places where moids and women on drugs sometimes are routinely attacking patients and nurses, there's signs in every hallway saying please don't attack us. Moids drink semi-openly in the corridors and outside the front gates. There's often cops walking around with a criminal handcuffed to them, since crims will sometimes jump out of a window or cut themselves to avoid going straight to jail which is marginally worse than hospital. I've been attacked by a schizo moid while waiting in a&e after he accused me of using the men's bathroom (there was only one working toilet for a holding pen of about 200 people - I went in there to drink water out of the basin since I was that thirsty) and had to hide from him for the next 8 hours as a nearby cop ignored me asking for help. Like, sorry for blogpost but for some of the nonas here, any medical thing is like having to walk through a men's prison to even get there. It's getting bad in Bongleton

No. 1584848

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>>1584835
>>1584820
Its always the same story, a leader in a nation takes power, whether through democratic means or by force in nations that have never known democracy. This leader may be good or bad, but they share the desire for their nation to be independent and industrialized, without foreign overlords or banks. Then comes America, backing any opposition to this leader - regardless of whether they are a racist nationalist who thinks certain people of his nation are lesser humans and need to be "removed" or a religious fundamentalist who installs backward laws. Justification for these actions often comes in the form of labels like 'communism' or 'freedom,' but the reality is that America will oppose any leader who poses a threat to their interests, regardless of the consequences for the nation or its people.

No. 1584888

>>1584341
it's okay nonnie I appreciate your concern I think some ladies are going a bit overboard. there's a clear difference between you and bots and it's obvious you're just worried because of your trauma too. your post actually helped me some because I've been too scared to make a pap smear appointment although I need to. I have some sexual abuse history and the idea of exposing myself to a stranger that isn't my husband makes me want to cry. I'm so stressed. I'm gonna ask if my husband can be there with me if not I'm not doing it at all

No. 1584908

I'm this anon >>1584221 and just wanted to say that if I hadn't had symptoms, I never would have gottne checked out, so I do understand and even agree with a lot of the "tinfoil" here. I didn't mean to insult anyone and I would never tell anyone to just suck it up bc gyn visits are awful. I hope more women study women's health and change the field.

rest is long, skip if you want

I would add to it that I think birth control is thrown at women without any concern for the hormones' effects on the mind and psyche. After I was diagnosed with endo and had a laparoscopic surgery to remove some (NOT the emergency thing), I was told to take Lupron. Absolutely not. I had done my research and refused to take such a problematic drug. Now I hear it is being given to kids as a puberty blocker and I am horrified. How can a child consent to the potential severe side effects? They cannot.

So additionally, my gynaecologist (a woman) did not tell me that deep infiltrating endometriosis could really damage tissues permanently or dangerously. She didn't even use this phrase (deep infiltrating) even though it was all on my abdominal wall and peritoneum and intestines. Some was serious enough that a GI surgeon had to get called in to ensure she didn't burn too much off the cecum. So afterwards, all she talked to me about was fertility and pain management. Well I don't want kids and I really don't like pain, but I was used to it, you know? So I just enjoyed the slight respite in pain after that relatively easy (in terms of recovery) surgery and went on with my life. I mean, two weeks after the operation, I had to fly to present my work at a master's conference and I did that. Please keep in mind that my first question after waking up after surgery was "did they find anything?" because I was terrified they would say there wasn't anything & I'm dumb for agreeing to surgery. Nah, it was stage III more or less.

Fast forward a few years. My periods suck but whatever. I had some concerning symptoms but just powered through. It was the pandemic and immediate family of mine had died just prior to all that. I got the cramps and vomiting bile and after three days went to hospital. I had emergency surgery that day and was hospitalized for 2.5 weeks.

No one told me endo could do what it did. They found it in my lymph nodes in that area. If I had waited any longer, my intestine could have perforated and I could have died of sepsis. It still happens. I'm just horrified that none of my doctors told me about the risk of endo doing this to my body. It's not all about pain management and just tolerating the pain doesn't mean everything is ok.

When I look back on this experience, I see how things got worse slowly. I didn't have very painful periods my whole life, or shooting pain in strange places, or spotting. Then it became common that I couldn't even eat before and on days 1+2 of my period. I was sk nauseated, all I wanted was bread. It just kept gradually getting worse over time. If that sounds like you, then please find a female gyn or someone to talk to about it. Set boundaries if you don't want digital or instrumental penetration but state your concerns about your body and ask if something can be done. I have heard of other imaging being used but exploratory laparoscopy is basically the only way to know for sure.

fwiw I took hormones (minipill) after my emergency surgery for 8 months and stopped because I hated how they made me feel. I don't really know what to do. I cried taking the first minipill because for myself I am so against hormones (I think every woman should choose for herself though). I guess I told myself maybe I can do some months on / some months off until I get into menopause (a long way away). If any of you tinfoil friends have thoughts on what I could do, lmk. J don't want to have another emergency surgery or risk damaging my insides any more than necessary. But I also have this aversion/phobia to hormonal birth control.

No. 1584940

were dragons ever real? a lot of historical reportings seem to imply that they were. if so, why did they die out? and why would this information be hidden from us if it's just an animal that had gone extinct?

No. 1584944

My tinfoil is that >>1584908 is a gyno who is afraid of losing patients due to the uprising in women who choose not to get themselves checked.

No. 1584948

>>1584908
hey thanks for sharing your experience anon. maybe a different form of birth control would work for you? it's not "natural" and is definitely hormones but the arm implant has worked out well for me. i don't have to get over the mental obstacle of convincing myself to swallow the pill every day because it's just in my arm already and there's not much i can do about it if i'm having a crazy streak where i'm convinced all my meds are making me crazy so i stop taking them. and it leveled out my mood which was needed. i'm not the most educated on birth control (or in general) so if you think it'd all just be the same and make you feel worse then i hope something new and not harmful comes along for you.

No. 1584950

>>1584940
i think a lot were technically dinosaurs or pterosaurs maybe.

No. 1584955

>>1584948
Ok I'm trying not to come at you nona but the arm implant?? There's literally tinfoil about that at the top of the thread, it makes you insane. It has similar side effects to the arm implant hormone blocker they use to trans kids. I didn't think people could even get the arm one anymore due to the problems with it. Did you know it can snap in half in your arm and dump out all the hormones at once? My friend snapped hers doing pushups and ended up hospitalised for unstoppable vomiting the same day, she tried to kill herself a couple days later due to the hormonal OD she suffered. It can also travel anywhere inside your body fat, changing your dosage as well as making flesh tunnels. Final removal (not replacement) was done to me with a knife and no anaesthetic. My arm hole hurts when the weather changes and I had it cut out of me 15 years ago. YMMV but since you got a recommendation for it nona, have a anti recommendation from me!

No. 1584960

>>1584955
eh, I never claimed sanity. maybe you're on to something. i was insane before it though so not much has changed. it might be safe for the people who are already crazy.

No. 1584961

>>1584948
I re-read your post and wanted to apologise for being a cow and add, please listen to your feelings, if you feel your pills are making you "crazy" & you're forcing them down then maybe your body is trying to tell you something. "Crazy" or just unhappy? You can do whatever you want, including stuff that might not be "best" or most "sensible" according to others opinions. Idk why you need BC but if you're doing this just for a man, you don't have to. Condoms are reliable if you use them right and they don't hurt you.

No. 1585047

>>1584948
hey, thanks for not calling me a gyno (I'm not). I have basically 0 sex drive and don't see it in my future to have another het relationship (but who knows I guess). Unfortunately after having emergency surgery, doctors said I had to go on a hormonal birth control to control growth of endo. But hormones don't work 100% for this, and if you have endo, you shouldn't be on estrogen, ideally (I also get migraines with aura). So you're pretty much limited to progesterone-only pills.

I was pretty freaked out after getting ~17cm of intestine cut out of me and resectioned so I followed orders. But I don't want to be on hormones at all, I feel like they are poison.

No. 1585108

>>1571083
The police are blatantly covering up their murder of the 2 boys in Ely, Wales. CCTV was just published by the BBC of them chasing the boys to their deaths in a big police van in broad daylight, then the police commissioner for South Wales went on live TV ten mins later and denied it. The fact that the BBC chose not to join in the coverup suggests to me they're siding against the police, finally. Fuck those corrupt pigs, I'm praying this is the start of a relatively peaceful revolution.

No. 1585166

>>1584908
>I would add to it that I think birth control is thrown at women without any concern for the hormones' effects on the mind and psyche
even though i take bc daily and don't have issues with it now for about two years, it was really fucking odd how i was given the pill when i was in hs when i went to a dermotologist for acne. they never asked me any questions about being sexually active and i wasn't at all until i was almost 21. i feel like they were just trying to give me bc and not even treat my acne… like they thought my acne wasn't that bad and wrongly assumed i just wanted bc and i was trying to be sneaky, idfk. it didn't help until they finally gave me accutane. not sure if bc has ever helped acne for other women but it's never changed whether or not i get it.

No. 1585201

>>1585108
I saw that on the news this morning and knew there was no way in hell that was an "unrelated" car crash. Nothing will come of it, though. The pigs will get away with it and the incident be memory holed in two months tops.

No. 1585514

Thread crossover!

No. 1585522

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Oskar Schindler just saved the Jews because he knew the war was turning against the Nazis and he wanted to build goodwill afterwards. It wasn't like it was a far stretch to work out that the Germans were going to lose by 1944. The fact they were rushing to shut everything down and send everyone to Auschwitz must've been a sign the party was over.

I read the story of Oskar Schindler and part of me just doesn't buy the shift from sleazy, self centered businessman and spy to humanitarian, especially considering he was a literal glowie for the Nazis in the Sudentenland, and reportedly hated the Czech with a passion. The fact he was already so cozy with Amon Goeth before the events take place makes it seem like he was just generally a brown-noser that sought to suck up to authority. The Nazi authority was waning, so he did what he could to get in the goodbooks with the west.

I just think the whole thing was mixture of him being desperate to hold onto his slave labor initially, something common to most German Industrialists at the time. And then later on, once the war really turned sour, he knew he could portray himself as some great humanitarian and get off all charges and seek asylum in the west.

The fact he immediately sought compensation from the allies for an outrageous sum for his work makes me sus about his wholesome noble intentions. Plus physiognomy plays a part here and he just looks the part of the earlier grifter playboy that he was.

No. 1585592

>>1585522
>start reading post
>says the Jews
>stop reading post

No. 1585621

>>1585514
kek wow those stoners discovered the moon

No. 1585631

>>1585201
I hope they burn the cop shop down tonight like they were planning to yesterday. Coming on the same day that old woman they ran over with their police car during the coronation dies as well. Why are us bongs so spineless? Do the pigs need to run over a member of the royal family before people say anything? I'm terrified they'll start killing the protestors they keep locking up illegally, some are still imprisoned from being rounded up for no reason at the coronation FFS. Judge Silas reid is trying these political prisoners and he compiled a list of 56 phrases you will immediately go to jail if you say them in court, including: climate change, injustice, emergency, pollution, hunger, activism etc. So you're literally not allowed to defend yourself or explain your actions in court. The defendants are mostly little old women and Christians.

No. 1585691

>>1585592
I'm Jewish and I believe anon is right. I also read up on Schindler and it just doesn't make sense that he'd go from being a depraved asshole to someone capable of empathy. Like anon said, it was obvious the Nazis weren't going to win, so what better way to cover your ass post-war? Make yourself out to be "one of the good ones". The fact he sought compensation shows that he was a calculated man who had thought all this through. Splitting hairs over the phrase "the Jews" is really dumb.

No. 1586674

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I think governments are trying to normalize(or at least desensitize), the general population to surrogacy. think about it, manufacturing people feels like the authoritarian government's dream for an indentured workforce. It is likely that governments all over will use it in the background to create child soldiers and child laborers.
Moreover, I also wonder how growing in a machine instead of a human mother would affect the mental development of a fetus. It could potentially have an impact on their emotional regulation, as neglect in early infancy can have lifelong consequences. Fetuses in the womb are aware to some extent of their surroundings and become familiar with their mother's presence. Therefore, growing up in a mechanical womb could be cold and devoid of warmth, which may affect a child's emotional development. it is important to consider the potential for misuse of this technology, with creeps using it to create children for their twisted needs

No. 1586690

>>1586674
Idk, if only women were allowed to use these machines, it would liberate us.

No. 1586695

>>1586674
jesus christ, imagine when it's like eight and a half months along, just has it's eyes open in there looking at the machines or whatever but no one talking to it or anything, fuckin creepy

No. 1586699

>>1586674
>authoritarian government's dream for an indentured workforce
It's also dream of the pedo elites. Children can be born without parents that care about them, so they would be easier to abuse and it causes less suspicion than taking children from the care system.

No. 1586722

>>1586690
There is absolutely no way we will ever be able to use these kinds of machines for ourselves. And surrogacy now (and it's going to be like this for a long time) is basically abusing women, how can women be liberated if we abuse other poorer women?

No. 1586736

>>1586722
I wasn't talking about surrogacy. Theoretically artificial wombs would be liberating, but I agree its unlikely they will be feasible in our lifetime.

No. 1586758

>>1586690
at the possible expense of the child? it's extremely risky to change the environment a fetus grows in, there could be important necessities that wouldn't be accounted for and it could be an extreme problem. like what >>1586695 said.
idk. but w/e i dont want kids anyway

No. 1586762

>>1586674
There's just something in me that experiences white hot rage when I see a gay moid exploiting women with surrogacy. These narcissistic men do not deserve to have children. It just feels so dystopian and makes me despair.

No. 1586764

>>1586762
based. two coomers shouldnt be allowed to have some poor delusional woman to have a kid for them. i can imagine that some women who do surrogacy end up bonding to, y'know, a LIFE growing inside of them (esp with pregnancy hormones and all that) and regret having to just give the baby away to two random degenerate scros.

No. 1586765

>>1586762
samefag but i'm also disgusted some twitterfag referred to the MOTHER as the "pusher".

No. 1586795

>>1586699
yep this is why they're pushing it, pun not intended. Womb-buyers will often pay multiple poor women to host their sperm, then as the pregnancies progress, buy off or cut contact with the women whose pregnancies are seemingly less successful or ones who aren't as compliant as the others. In some countries it's actually illegal for the abandoned surrogates to abort the unwanted baby - or the surrogate couldn't bear to do it, understandably - so already, there's "spare" babies out there available for… well, whatever the customer wants, I guess, since the mother was already willing to sell them in the first place. Genuinely not trying to racebait but these babies will often be white or light skin Asian (and since the egg/sperm donors were rich, likely good looking) but born in a country where these ethnicities are a minority. This would make them more valuable for activities or purposes I don't want to talk about. Best case scenario these kids grow up in their slum neighbourhood as a walking red flag that their mom only had them for money, which is awful. This is the absolute dream of Epstein level pedos. An industrious nonce could even set up a "legit" surrogacy company and simply track down all the spare babies that their customers have abandoned. It's a nightmare.

No. 1586816

Does anybody else feel like anti-life policies are being shilled? I was reading Tracy Twyman's book Genuflect and there she talked about various Ophite Gnostic cults that wanted to completely overthrow creation. I've just been finding it very strange that America which I believe is the most controlled and brainwashed place by the elite, is so obsessed with guns (I heard that Americans shoot home intruders as self defense which is kind of absurd) and the emphasis on mass and school shootings (even linking American identity with the use of guns), as well as supporting the death penalty despite almost all other democratic countries having abolished this (weirdly enough a lot of Catholics even support it and say it supports a Bible verse that talks about self defense but I'm not quite sure how the death penalty would be self defense… Considering the fact that Catholic priests were paid by the Republican party to support their policies I don't think this is a coincidence either and believe the elite are trying to drum up support for murder) Nukes are also an extreme example of complete death but I also believe that the weird shilling by moids on Reddit of nuclear energy despite the increased thyroid cancer rates is concerning (there's also a LOT of lobbying and propaganda involved)

Similarly, I think the rise in misogyny is tied to hating creation - in this book she talks about the cult of Mithras being misogynistic and the origin of creation being Mithras inseminating a literal bull instead of a woman. This would explain why transgenderism is rising, because they want to find a way of creating life without the use of women such as the infamous mouse studies that created an "artificial" womb and therefore there is a large focus on MTFs while FTMs are left being sterilized.

And in addition women are being completely separated from childbirth, to the point where we use degrading language towards women as uterus Havers etc. and using another woman as a womb often for money, completely ignoring the bond that forms between mother and child and the difficult 9 month procedure. I also think some of this ties into how some people value animals over children to the point where we say "adopt don't shop" for pets but completely disregard this for literal babies. Advertisements for selling your eggs are also popping up like crazy too with people pretending it's the same as ejaculating into a cup. And this completely separates the mother from her child where she doesn't even know who her child is and is just used by another family, with babies being used as commodities and the mother being blamed for anything genetically wrong with the child by the family. We are even being separated from our own genetic material through the selling of DNA from DNA testing services such as 23andme.. in other words we cannot create, and if we do create it's seen as a mechanic process that can be forced whenever you want it, and even our own DNA isn't safe from being used (possibly for finding new ways of creating life without the use of women?)

I also think hatred for life comes into the act of creating itself and that's why there's no romance only lust - we are seeing other women as bodies to be sold and objectified in prostitution, including brothels such as those in Germany trafficking Romanian women etc. and videographic prostitution (aka porn, I just call it a form of prostitution because the only difference between the two is a camera). Now you've got young women being encouraged into onlyfans, and sex positivity being so extreme that hookup culture is awarded while we are called prudes if we do not abide by this. There's also the issue of birth control and how sex is no longer seen as creation (I promise I'm not some religious nut when I'm talking about this) and instead only seen as a casual thing you just do. I'm still a bit unsure about how abortion ties into all of this because of how women cannot have abortions anymore, but I do think that the concern the elite have for abortion does not have to do with women's rights but rather to do with ending life especially life they see as unworthy e.g. babies with Down syndrome in Iceland etc.

From the beginning we have been forced to believe that the creator is the Father, not us, and even then he is never called a mother despite "birthing" chidlren. Virgin Mary somehow never had sex and was never impregnated, she simply bore her child. None of this is native thinking at all, we've been lied to believe creation is a prison.

No. 1586825

>>1586765
>as the "pusher"
this is what they called me on the playground

No. 1586832

>>1586816
Yeaaaaahhh not this please. Smells traddy in here.

No. 1586833

>>1586825
other than "faggot" i mean

No. 1586834

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>>1586816
Its not complicated, Iron Age Judaism was a unique religion that deviated from the norm due to various cultural and geographic factors. Initially, Yahweh was seen as a warrior deity who supplemented El, the highest paternal god, and eventually even took attributes from El's consort Asherah, the mother creator deity. As a result, Yahweh's character in the Old Testament appears to be multifaceted, with passages describing him as both a protective and maternal figure towards Israel, as well as a destructive and warlike deity towards other nations.

No. 1586835

>>1586816
Damn that's a lot of words

No. 1586847

>>1586816
This is an interesting take nona, I agree with a lot of it but as non-burgers (? I'm assuming neither of us are) I feel like we can't really understand what's going on in the American consciousness. It seems like at least two separate, competing consciousnesses, actually (or urban Vs rural, rich Vs poor etc). Your point about loving or tolerating death vs hating abortion made me think that the moids banning abortion are doing so to protect their own unborn fetuses - I don't think it's a coincidence that the politicians getting caught raping women (as opposed to men or children) tend to be right wing. Moids like Elon Musk are inspired by historical conquerors like Charlemagne and Genghis Khan who had as many offspring as they could by raping/marrying as many women as physically possible. I think most if not all anti-choice male politicians got a victim pregnant but she aborted it and now they're trying to stop that happening again. They don't want to be a father to the extra kids, just use them to spread their genes and therefore be a bigger man. This is why they're obsessed with "replacement", they think all moids think this way. I'm religious & while I think abortion is morally wrong, forcing your horrible genes to spread far and wide against everyone's will is much worse, that's why women should always have the right to choose an abortion and men should have zero say in it. i also think these moids would knock up their own daughters given half a chance and that's why they're so strict on cases of abortion due to incest

No. 1586854

>>1586847
they just hate women it's not that deep.

No. 1586857

>>1586854
if you don't understand why something is, you can't change it

No. 1586861

>>1584221
I would if I had the same symptoms as my sister. I don't even PMS anymore. If it's deep infiltrating, would I feel it?
>>1586816
It's male jealousy realizing they only destroy and never create. They don't create 'civilizations' as they love to say. A civilization cannot exist without its people, and it falls without women. Males want to be able to give birth so badly. Also, I think this is a trend that follows once women receive more rights. The more rights women have and the more equal opportunities, the more males realize women triumph over them in every facet of life except sheer physical strength. That is all males have.

No. 1586958

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>>1586795
>>1586699
This actually happened in some high-profile cases, A convicted Australian pedophile was basically allowed to purchase a baby from Thailand and this managed to become internetional news, which led to the Thai government creating legal measures to prevent similar incidents. Other instances include an Israeli sex offender buying a girl from India and an American gay couple who made sex films with surrogate children from Georgia. These are just a known cases, but there are likely many more cases of pedophiles in the surrogacy industry who have not been caught.

No. 1586963

>>1586834
Yahweh was also constructed from the Mesopotamian gods Enlil and Enki, which is why he sounds schizo as fuck in the Old Testament because it's literally two different gods being at odds with one another

No. 1587027

>>1586816
You forgot that feminism has been hopelessly astroturfed. If i read another autistic "radfems" (My other tinfoil is that a lot agressivly anti-het radfems here are faggots, too) calling heterosexual women "breeders" i'm going to lost it. It doesnt matter how much we cope about it, anti-life propaganda is inherently anti women. We can talk about how it's not inherent on a literal sense until our tongues fall but males aren't able to separate womanhood from life, and thats it. But yeah, we're in a death cult age. About the catholic part it's also pretty simple: the current Pope believes that we're at the verge of something called "The age of the Holy Spirit" and that entitles a lot of society being destroyed, to be able to enter a new stage. A very derrotist idea if you ask me, but i guess it's useful for now because Catholicism simply does not have the strength to confront TPTB.
I'm not going to go to hard on your last point because i know religion in burgerland it's fucked but the whole point of the Virgin Mary is that the creation of life it's an intersection between women and The Divine (as it, larger than life, not regular males. Regular males are mostly onlookers on the whole thing. This is something that fucking destroys the male mind, to put it lightly)
>>1586847
As a non-burger my tinfoil is that burgers don't have an "American consciousness", the American people have been tirelessly psyoped for the last 70 years or so. It's crazy because it's literally a psychotic society and it's showing it's limits because you can have victims rasing victims for so long until it fails.
>>1586963
Welp this explains the conclusions of Sabina Spielrein.

No. 1587195

>>1586832
nta but the post isn't traddy imo. being against perversion is based, women dont benefit long term from perversion anyway

No. 1587320

>>1586832
You fucking morons jump at the sight of your own shadow and think it's a tradwife. You get more butthurt by the linking of women and motherhood than trannies do. Get a grip.

No. 1587446

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Was anyone here apart of GATE or other gifted programs as a child? I just read this whole github and my interest is piqued.

https://twitter.com/4HourL/status/1661464442893225985

No. 1587452

>>1587446
sorry, I see that it's been talked about in previous threads

No. 1587525

>>1586861
ayrt. you'd probably have symptoms, including pain of some sort. If you're not having any, you're probably fine.

No. 1587609

>>1586816
>and believe the elite are trying to drum up support for murder
you know what happens in a lot of those "democratic", "civilized" countries where the death penalty has been abolished though? they release murderers after like 30years of prison tops and preach ~rehabilitation~ and then the murderers/rapists go on to make new victims. because yes in some european countries not only death penalty isn't a thing but "imprisonment for life" means 30 years. sounds more like support for murder than the opposite, people are barely deterred from committing crimes. maybe real imprisonment for life could be a solution but i don't see how because most of these countries already struggle with over-populated prisons.
as for surrogacy/prostitution etc. it sounds more like terminal capitalism applied to the human body than "anti-life" measures because it does promote "easy" ways for people to have children despite their circumstances (single/sterile parents, gay moids etc), it's just very disconnected from motherhood and ethics yes.

No. 1588024

>>1587446
I see they mention Israeli art girlfriends. I'm not a lesbian, so what would the distaff counterpart be?

No. 1588026

>>1587446
>I wasn't just academically gifted; it was also part of a conspiracy!

No. 1588030

>>1588024
You will eat ze Israeli art major pussy. Live on ze chans. Own nothing, and be happy!

No. 1588093

>>1587609
Rehabilitation works if u do it right tho.. i live in one of those countries and the crime rate is low af

No. 1588113

>>1588093
Even if a cold-blooded murderer or a rapist never offends again: do they genuinely deserve to be alive? We're already over-populated, why let these scumbags share our resources?

No. 1588138

>>1588113
Honestly death seems like they get off easy? Being alive does not equal having a good life

No. 1588193

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The UK is involved way more covert shit then people realize.

No. 1588198

>>1588138
That "getting off easy" shit is exactly what they want you to think. "Noooo don't kill me! Make me live a long life where my totally real conscience that I DEFINITELY don't lack will torture me SO much worse than death ever could!" At the end of the day, who even cares? Less murderers and rapists on earth is a net positive and it warns the others what'll happen to them.

No. 1588202

>>1588193
They should be kicked out.

No. 1588236

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>>1588193
People rightfully call out the CIA for their involvement in other countries affairs, it's important to recognize that MI6 is often equally involved. Despite having a defense budget significantly smaller than that of the US, The UK defense budget still receives a substantial amount of funding (the second highest in Europe after Russia) As such, MI6 works to justify its existence by serving as America and NATO's covert problem solver, gathering intelligence, carrying out assassinations, and conducting raids so effective that people don't even realize what happened.

No. 1588238

>>1574271
whoa. this is terrifying stuff….

No. 1588467

>>1588113
i feel 100% the same. we need a zero tolerance policy on stuff like this. idc abt revenge fantasies like not letting them "get off easy" by way of death, making them live thru punishments etc…id rather assure the safety of everyone else by making completely sure they can never escape and reoffend - kill em.

No. 1589068

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As I delve deeper into Lysenko's work, I begin to question whether his ideas were as flawed as they were made out to be. In fact, if you examine contemporary research on genetics, you will find that many of the inquiries Lysenko raised back in his time are still being explored today. It doesn't hurt to consider the perspectives of even the most prominent critics of gene science, like Lysenko. Maybe he deserves a second look

No. 1589077

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>>1589068
A man with a jawline like this can't be wrong.

No. 1589079

>>1589068
Last time I checked leftypol had really heated debates about this man and his work.
My conclusion from watching such autism unfold was that he had some good ideas and did some good research that actually helped agriculture in the SU, but he also proposed some pretty crazy ideas which are most of what he's known for, and that his figure was/is used as a political/ideological tool both in favor and against. His failures did exist of course, but they're exaggerated for propaganda.

No. 1589084

>>1589068
>>1589079
Who's this man and what did he do?

No. 1589100

>>1574278
What the fuck? Even if this isn't predictive programming or whatever, still, what the fuck? Vidrel is really shitty but just look at the clips of the ceremony. ????

No. 1589176

>>1589100
I remember watching this opening ceremony back in 2012 and my tinfoil senses were tingling like mad. I tried talking about it with friends, saying that it was very odd for the occasion and that it didn't even fit as a "celebration of the NHS" or w/e the fuck they tried passing it off as. But I got the "omg it's just art don't be crazy" bullshit.

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>>1586674
I feel genuinely angry about this. The audacity of taking away the only mother that baby has ever known, just a couple of hours after being born and placing him on the chest of a complete stranger(which must be incredibly uncomfortable for him). It makes me feel sick to my stomach

No. 1589357

So this isn't a tinfoil but something I found disturbing, so a few days ago, a video about Isaac Newton appeared in my recommended on Youtube. I clicked on it and was immediately struck by the voice, which I recognized as Christopher Lee and assumed it was a recording he must have made. A few days later, I watched another video from the same channel, and when the voice said the channel's name, I was genuinely shocked. I checked the comments and discovered that the voice was AI-generated. I've heard other realistic AI voices before, but this one in particular unnerved me and felt downright demonic.

No. 1589366

>>1586674
I'm glad surrogacy is slowly but surely getting banned in the world.

No. 1589921

>>1587446
hey, I was the GATEanon who posted the embarrassingly autistic GATE research infodump in the last thread, would be happy to discuss more if you like. I hadn't actually seen this GitHub so I'll have a read, thanks!

No. 1589937

>>1587446
samefag, that was, uh… do you want to summarise that for us please? They seem to be arguing that Anton LaVey reincarnated as a military man of some kind who was responsible for either bolstering or suppressing the abilities of GATE children because of the nephilim? Why do the nephilim care? I feel like a state sponsored scheme of intellect suppression is literally the opposite of what LaVey would've wanted to set up after coming back from the dead? He would've tried to make money out of it, for a start.

That said the "memory trigger" section did trigger GATE memories, and the expanded lists of traits and of experiences that tend to MK your personality that GATE annons have "accidentally" gone through were helpful. So this is still interesting on that topic, didn't mean to be mean nona.

No. 1589989

>>1589100
>>1589176
I saw this live and remember thinking it was goofy as hell, because the live BBC voiceover guy was explaining it as a metaphor for how the NHS is a British "hero" like Harry Potter, and the Voldemort puppet represents discrimination and death (the 2 things the NHS was set up to fight). Voldemort is known worldwide but the NHS probably isn't, so I guess the thinking was that foreigners would understand Voldemort at least and still be entertained. In 2012 the NHS was almost universally loved & was often described as the "British national religion". Ironically, 10 years later it's basically destroyed, so I guess Voldy won in the end.

No. 1590003

>>1589989
It was shit in 2012. My mother got botched that year by an unqualified surgeon who stood in last minute for the one meant to do the op. The tl;dr being that my mother ended up nearly dying from blood loss and now has permanent nerve damage. All from what was meant to be a routine operation. When we complained and tried arguing that the unqualified surgeon and the people present in the OR who let them proceed should be punished for negligence, it got memory holed. I'm glad I made enough money to switch to private healthcare now. I'm in remission from cancer, and a lot of the people I meet at support groups got screwed over by the NHS. I do wonder if it's being purposefully tanked so we can move into some American style bullshit, though.

No. 1590007

>>1590003
Ayrt, don't get me wrong anon, I'm anti NHS myself & resented the blatant propaganda at the time. I'm sorry to hear about your mother & what you've been going through. Blogpost but their negligence is beyond belief, I've been waiting since 2018 for a diagnosis - in 2020 I was told it was just IBS (after several highly invasive tests) but then 6mo ago I was summoned back to the hospital out of the blue to be re-tested for everything. Turns out the "doctor" that dxd IBS has been struck off for saying everyone has IBS to avoid doing any work, so now they had to re-do all his cases to find out how many people they told were basically fine have died due to whatever they actually had wrong with them. The tests he made me have were for the wrong part of my body, and didn't actually rule anything out, even cancer. In the meantime I've been getting sicker and sicker but unable to access any care due to the fake IBS diagnosis. I had to take time off work to endure 2 solid weeks of scans etc, because they demanded it, but now of course I can't get a word out of them despite being told to expect my results in 10 days. I genuinely don't expect to ever be told what's wrong with me or receive treatment, but I'm fairly sure it will kill me. My therapist told me that at this point the majority of her clients are in my situation, in other words she believes the lack of healthcare in the UK is the main cause of mental "illness" now, ie reasonable but extreme distress that's ruining lives. And we pay for this, 1/3 of my wage goes on this bullshit

No. 1590028

>>1590007
AYRT. Jesus Christ, anon. That's abhorrent treatment. I'm so sorry you have to go through all this. I don't mean to scare you, but I know a couple people with bowel cancer who initially got told it was just IBS. So many doctors seem to hate their jobs and do the bare minimum to earn their pay, like I get that it's hard work, but what the fuck were they expecting? Unfortunately I'm not surprised about what your therapist said. I also went through a period of misdiagnoses and it was extremely stressful to be deteriorating all the while the "experts" were telling me it's a minor, treatable illness. Actually sickens me that I'm paying for these incompetent butchers. Something needs to be done, for a start we need a better way to hold bad doctors accountable; but it'll never happen. Actually makes me laugh to see bongs brag online to the Americans that at least we have the NHS. It's absolutely not a flex any more, kek.

No. 1590211

>>1590028
Sorry for OT but, ayrt, did you/the people you know with bowel cancer have a skin rash too? Or reactions to certain foods? New Dr mentioned it could "just" be Crohn's so that's what I'm hoping for I guess kek fml

No. 1590353

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Whatever happened to this?

No. 1590358

>>1590211
AYRT, idk about skin rashes but both of them had bad reactions to certain food and found that over time the selection of what they can eat without any ill effects dwindled to almost nothing. I know Crohn's sucks but I hope it's that and not bowel cancer. You can get those home tests now, though. I recently had to use one myself as I was freaking the fuck out thinking my cancer had spread due to some issues I was having, here's the link: https://www.superdrug.com/health/home-testing-kits/selfcheck-bowel-health-test-kit/p/782419 you do it all at home, no need to send it away. Might be worth looking into with the NHS being… well, the NHS. Best of luck, nona. ♥

No. 1590608

>>1590003
I have been saying this for ages. They will run the NHS into the ground, and then we wil have Health insurance to pay on a monthly basis. We don't even have to look as far as America.
I lived in the Netherlands for 20 years, I paid on average €100 a month and I used to think, UK government would love to be getting all that sweet lolly.

No. 1590656

One of the biggest schizo fuels I've seen

No. 1590668

The buying and selling of women's aand childrens entire cellphone mic/camera/livestream is going to become more popular and giant conglomerates like apple are going to continue to gaslight the population into thinking their products are safe and hackproof. There's going to be a leak on par with Edward Snowden from a retired hacker about the buying, trading, and selling of your every private move. Every person you have laughed at for being paranoid about cellphones will be getting an apology.

No. 1590680

>>1587027
Ok breeder.
>anti-life propaganda
Life is literally death though. You can't separate one from the other. Every person who breeds commits a postponed murder. If you can't escape the cycle of death and rebirth and you're not even interested in escaping it, idk what you're even doing itt besides spreading your trad natalist propaganda. Go to motherhood thread or something.

No. 1590850

After reading about Marilyn Manson and the purple wand in the celebcows thread, he comes off as an mk handler; wouldn’t be surprised if he actually is.

No. 1590855

>>1590358
>>found that over time the selection of what they can eat without any ill effects dwindled to almost nothing
Haha sounds like me, guess I'll die then… I'll do that test kit, I didn't know they were a thing. Thanks nona, you possibly saved my life today kek have a nice bank holiday!

No. 1591011

>>1590855
Please report back, nona! I check this thread most days. FWIW I had the same thing happen to me where my diet is now very bland and samey as very quickly I became borderline intolerant to a lot of food. Still don't know what the issue is, but it wasn't bowel cancer at least. I wish you all the best, you have a good bank holiday too.

No. 1591078

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>>1590656
I thought this was going to be bullshit at first, but then it all started to click. Jesus Christ, dude. I'm schizzin' out over here.

No. 1591419

Troonism is being pushed to understand how excess estrogen affects males because of all the hormone-altering chemicals in our water and food.

No. 1591432

>>1591419
But they already knew before the big trans push happened

No. 1591777

>>1577188
Nta but I agree with you. It is really discouraging to think of what forces have created or allowed patriarchy and femicide to thrive. It also feels like for the most part, females creatures are universally the ones capable of living a morally upright life and that male species are universally lower beings (violence, lack of empathy/love, lesser bond with their offspring, etc).

No. 1591825

>>1573768
>implying the richest people and world leaders actually took the vaccines
Lmfao nonnie

No. 1591831

>>1591777
Sage for Christian sperg but I believe this too & think it's a good explanation for why women are morally superior to men and yet we suffer from a patriarchy. Green text cos my original post was long
>>Eve was Adam's moral guide which was why he followed her in eating the apple
>>God punished Eve for her mistake by making Adam higher in the leadership hierarchy than her
>>now if Eve wanted to be safe then she'd have to work hard to make Adam & all other men (her future sons) be nonviolent and kind
>> women care for, raise and teach kids, not out of desire but because we can't trust men to do it, and this was God's design - women still lead all male children in moral development etc
>>later Mary was born & she was naturally a perfect woman
>> a perfect woman is incapable of committing sin, but only Jesus himself is a perfect man - perfection is impossible for mortal men
>> Mary atoned for Eve by attaining perfection, so since then women have been born free of sin, unlike men. (only Mary & Jesus ever been yeeted straight into heaven)
>> getting into heaven is much easier as a woman but the cost of that is putting up with moids, whereas a naturally violent moid will really struggle to enter heaven because he has to overcome his own nature first. All men who abuse women will go to hell.
>>A man is responsible for his wife & kids' sins, but not the other way around. This is to make things equal, since women are already suffering from being led by immoral men & men's sins hurt women & kids.

One nona mentioned how women = life and men = death, to add to that, in the Bible sin = death and Jesus = life, and Mary, the example for all women, gave birth to life/Jesus & taught Jesus morals. So to me it's obvious that women are meant to be the spiritual head of humanity while men are the physical (inferior) "head" of the family/state, but nothing important from God's POV, apart from He needs to stop men fucking up all the time in the Bible.

No. 1591840

>>1591825
well yeah, they were injected in front of crowds in some cases. Sure you can get jabbed with saline but the risk involved with putting on a fake jab show like that even once was huge. And you're saying they publically fake-jabbed multiple politicians around the world, sometimes in real hospitals, & it all went fine & not one single person leaked it? & presumably the politicians' families were also told the jabs were fake to stop the politician mums wanting the jab for politician kids, and none of them ever said anything either?

No. 1591843

>>1591840
>And you're saying they publically fake-jabbed multiple politicians around the world, sometimes in real hospitals, & it all went fine & not one single person leaked it? & presumably the politicians' families were also told the jabs were fake to stop the politician mums wanting the jab for politician kids, and none of them ever said anything either?
Yes

No. 1591847

>>1591843
but how did they keep the secret, do you think the pharma companies threatened every single one of them? VIPs out themselves for stuff like drunk driving and expenses fraud all the time, why would they keep a secret when it doesn't even benefit them? Like I agree with you that the jabs didn't work, but imo they caused long covid, and that's what's being covered up. If they did literally NOTHING then what were the vaccine companies manufacturing, saline? All the papers the virologists published about jab development were just fictional? Imo it only makes sense if celebs etc were given real jabs to promote uptake. They were banking on people not believing the jabs caused long covid since Dua Lipa or President Xi don't admit to having long covid & they had the jab. Like I'm fairly sure you could dip a pH test in a COVID jab and see if it's saline or not, like any nurse in possession of a vaxx bottle could've done that.

No. 1591919

>>1591831
When I converted to Christianity and attended bible study groups I suggested Eve was Adam's mentor as he quickly followed her lead over the literal word of God and the scrotes all chimped out on me, kek.

>>1591847
NTA but if the elites can pull off shit like 9/11 and false flag events without anything leaking, a bunch of false injections is a walk in the park. Wake up.

No. 1591973

>>1591919
kek ikr that's just the obvious explanation, it even says she was a "helper" for Adam - but this was before they had any work to do, so what was she helping him with if not spirituality? And the snake appealed to Eve by saying she would know everything God knows, suggesting that out of man & woman, it's the woman who has the ability to understand everything in spirituality. Adam didn't even want the knowledge kek. Then Eve gets upset that she's naked before Adam does, which made me think that she sees that Adam is a threat to her now that he's aware of nudity- before that, he probably listened to her, and now he just stares at her tits, which is why she needs clothes

No. 1591997

>>1591973
>And the snake appealed to Eve by saying she would know everything God knows, suggesting that out of man & woman, it's the woman who has the ability to understand everything in spirituality. Adam didn't even want the knowledge kek
YES, EXACTLY! See, this is why I don't really go to church much now because it's like… did we read the same book? How are these things ignored? They're not even subtext, it's pretty blatant. Moids will just say "durr the snake tempted Eve because it's evil and women can't handle knowledge" like Adam wasn't reliant on her kek. Even if you're an atheist, our world is testament to the fact that men can't handle knowledge and will only use it to destroy everything. If you ever wanna form a schizo Christian offshoot with me hmu.

No. 1592008

Putin is reincrnated Hitler, it's clear. Human history repeats itself because the same "souls", or cerain concentrated bits of the big consciousness if you like, are being born again. If they didn't learn the lesson in one life they get to be reborn untill they learn it. Putin is doing the same shit just in a different culture so it has different specifics but man it's so fucking similar. This soul didn't learn in that life and not in this life, it will be born again and let's hope it learns to be better before it makes these choises again. It may be here for a long time already.

No. 1592015

Everyone wants you to fail and will actively sabotage you. If they have something to gain they will use you and it may help you until they don't need you anymore then they will sabotage you. Better to never rely on others and never trust anyone. Let people think you are incompetent, and you will slip right past them. Their opinions don't even matter.

No. 1592018

>>1571885
I’ve been taking SSRI since i was 14. My doctor sent me to the EKG for another reason. It turns out that I might have something called “long QT syndrome” and it might be fatal.

Obviously I was very depressed teen but I can’t help but think if medication was the only option for me

No. 1592044

>>1591919
>>1591973
>>1591997
All of this proves that literacy is a great gift and the ability to read, understand, and interpret your own religious texts is paramount to comprehending its message and the context in which it was written. I wonder how many devout Catholics have never really read the Bible?
>>1592018
What is long QT syndrome??

No. 1592061

>>1590656
This is great i love it! I've been thinking about how humanity is very insectlike for some time now, it fits right into my theory about the primate to insect mind spectrum.

No. 1592063

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No. 1592066

>>1592063
Oh nice, but how is that fatal?

No. 1592069

>>1592063
I'm so glad you replied with this because I immediately had the same thought lmao

No. 1592097

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>>1591919
>>1591973
>>1591831
Most Semitic religions thought of the fist human being as a conjoined(though not dual-sex) human being, you still find traces of this with early Judaism, God did not create mankind, he created Ha’Adam(from earth) and from Ha’Adam (humankind) God made them Ish (Man) and Isha (Woman). Despite this there are still traces of original telling, in Genesis
>“Male and female created he them, and blessed them, and called their name Adam”
i.e our first parent was originally both male and female

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No. 1592119

>>1571885
>"Brain zaps", which are barely acknowledged by the medical industry but well known by SSRI withdrawal victims, are actually mini seizures caused by an acute absence of GABA in the brain. The electrical signals are massively strengthened since your body is used to fighting through a haze of artificially boosted GABA, so a small area of the brain "lighting up" can quickly snowball into a thunderstorm in the brain. This can cause actual seizures/unconsciousness (which doctors totally deny) as well as dysregulated and excessive emotional responses, hypersexuality, hyperawareness
Holy shit holy fuck so I'm actually more susceptible to seizures now? I knew I wasn't worried over nothing, plus I had an EEG done by a neurologist and the fucker told me my brain was normal, I just had "very elevated levels of anxiety"… Like fucker where do you think I got it from? I wasn't this anxious when I was still taking SSRIs, back then I just had clinical depression. That was years ago. Now I'm not so depressed anymore because of major life changes but on the other hand I get horribly anxious over the smallest things which is something that didn't use to happen to me, or at least not to this degree. Could it have something to do with my medication? Also, I still get brain zaps every now and then when it's late and I'm sleepy and tired. I remember how frequent they were when I was taking sertraline whenever I took a little bit too long to take my next dose, and also when I finally stopped taking them altogether and experienced withdrawal. They have stopped for the most part but keep in mind that was almost 5 years ago for a few months and I still experience them sometimes. So I clearly haven't fully recovered from SSRI use. I hope this isn't permanent.
I have a young cousin who also took sertraline for depression, I'm hoping his dose was lower than mine and for a shorter time and that the damage isn't permanent because he is a child.

No. 1592131

>>1592119
I took mertazapine or however it's spelled, and it was given to me based on literally nothing. The side effects never went away, I got violent brain zaps that prevented me from sleeping, and when I did finally pass out it was hard to physically wake up. Like my eyelids felt like iron, I had to rub them for minutes to get them to open. I had a brain zap so bad my left arm went numb. Really? I could feel the zaps in my heart. So stupid, but I actually take setraline and it works really well with me. The withdrawal feels like hell if I forget my meds, but I take them everyday when I am at home. I think being on the wrong medication can fuck you up. I don't know if it's permanent, but if the meds don't work, don't take em. Are your zaps super painful and startling? Or does it feel more like a click?

No. 1592142

>>1592131
No my brain zaps are more like a "click" I guess, they're not painful but aside from feeling something like faint numbness I can feel my brain kind of "losing power" for a brief moment where I sort of feel dizzy/lose balance. It's an unpleasant sensation. It used to be stronger when I was still taking sertraline and it had nothing to do with me being fatigued or sleepy, it would happen to me at work when I forgot to take my meds. And then after stopping my medication they were frequent late at night if I was still awake.
Thankfully I didn't get worse side effects (other than my current anxiety, possibly) or take a stronger drug.

No. 1592144

>>1592139
Yeah, I had brain zaps when not sleepy, though I guess mertazapine made me permanently tired and drowsy so maybe I was sleepy. If I forget my meds for a day I might get a zap. Well hopefully being off of it helps you, though zaps suck. Do you still get them late at night even though you've stopped? And how often? I don't like the idea of a permanent condition after quitting something…

No. 1592150

>>1592144
>Do you still get them late at night even though you've stopped? And how often?
I reposted my reply to add how they were shortly after going off sertraline, but now almost 5 years later I only get them rarely in the same situation (late and when tired/fatigued). I think my brain is recovering, but it has taken so long to get to this point I'm afraid of permanent side effects that I might not be aware of.

No. 1592153

post atheist nonas who have circled back to some semblance of faith, what kicked it off besides covid? the casual cruelty that has not only been on the rise but popularized through social media genuinely feels like the devil to me. like, in 1984 the kids dob on the parents for not falling in line and I feel like that's what we're training our kids to do with these "karen" or "____ gets OWNED" videos. It feels like it's promoting cruelty beyond what we're used to just due to the reach the internet has. any layman or wageslave (my people) can get life ruined over basically a spat?
idk weird way to come back around to it but I feel like faith, forgiveness and fortitude is helping. I almost miss going to church until we got sent to the catholics and I think I have religious ptsd

No. 1592158

>>1592153
Why do you have to associate immorality and cruelty with the literal devil?
Can't you have forgiveness and fortitude without religion?
If you have "turned back" to religion due to things you saw on the internet, things that are simply based on human psychology, then you were never really atheist to begin with as you never fully got rid of your beliefs.

No. 1592160

>>1592153
fr. the internet panopticon is so disturbing, that you can get doxxed, fired, life ruined over some stupid disagreement you would have both moved on from like 30 years ago. I sort of agree with your point on religion as at least that teaches you can be redeemed. feels like people just get blackballed if theyre 'cancelled' for racist twees or what have you. I hate it genuinely.

No. 1592169

>>1592153
I wouldn't define myself as following a proper religion, but I consider myself above regular spiritualism and now believe in higher powers and the existence of the soul. I believe that certain things can't be fully explained by logic alone, and there are mysteries beyond our understanding. Recently, I've been reading religious texts and commentaries written by women, mainly Christian ones although I would like to read others but I really can't find anything for other regions.

No. 1592170

>>1592169
Try reading about Taoism and Jainism, they are pretty interesting

No. 1592184

>>1571908
>but he started out with these kind of videos
No he didn't. Back in ~2016 he did his "Cringe intros" series and some challenges, like saying x word 1 million times.

No. 1592193

>>1592153
Witnessing the birth of my younger sister. Seeing this pure, beautiful soul that was yet to be soiled by this world being born was incredible. To see her surrounded by love immediately, and how that love was practically radiating off all of us… I can't explain it, but it felt very spiritual to me. I was in a nihilist rut of depression and drug abuse before that and this was literally like being visited by an angel. My whole world view changed after that. More recently though, I've started to feel like we're in the end times. Maybe not this planets end times, but our end times. Everything's just worse. Not just the fact that we're on the precipice of WW3 but stuff like the casual cruelty you mentioned and what >>1592160 said about the internet panopticon. I converted to Christianity (born and raised Jewish but lapsed in my early teens) though like I said in >>1591997 I don't attend church much anymore. My beliefs are a little more spiritual and schizoid than mainstream Christianity. I also believe in karma to a degree, which is part of why I do volunteer work. All I know for sure is that I have witnessed good in it's purest form (my little sisters, falling in love with my wife, etc) and I have also witnessed evil in it's purest form (shit I ain't posting here. I'm just trying to do good things with my life and be there for the people I love.

No. 1592203

>>1592044
Long QT syndrome is not dangerous itself, in fact it's just your heart working slightly different. It's believed that most people who have LGL syndrome have an alternative node that passes impulses differently from general population. Although it's just a theory and the real reason behind it is not known. I mostly see LGL in young anachans. Are you an (ex)anachan by any chance? Or bulimic?
But yeah, it's a nothing burger. Worst case scenario is that you might develop sinus tachycardia that is fatal, but your chances are only marginaly higher than the general population.

No. 1592241

>>1592153
>>1592169
>>1592193
>>1592097
Ayrt, nonas I feel cringe for saying this but all of these "unusual" Christian beliefs are welcomed and encouraged in Quakerism, please look into it if you feel led to! I became a Quaker after meditating ("meeting for worship") with my local group throughout lockdown, after they'd switched to zoom meetings. You literally just sit silently together, and if you feel the urge to speak sometimes, you can & everyone else listens. Atheists or people from other religions are welcome & you will never be asked to change anything you believe. It's the only support group that actually works imo, they saved my life. They're a strongly feminist and female-led organisation as well.

No. 1592313

>>1592241
>>1592153
There was a Soviet writer Lev Gumilev, who argued that very few people can truly be atheists. He suggested that human beings fundamentally need spirituality, and asserts that soulless communist sects of Marx and Trotsky could never succeed and that's why all the revolutions in the west failed.

No. 1592387

>>1592241
Quakers meditate? Huh, never knew that. I started meditating to try and fix my attention span but something about it felt like a connection to… idk, something else. I'm >>1592193 and like I said, I just want to do good in life. Do you have any recommendations for where to start reading up on Quakerism? I'd love to find somewhere that's more accepting of differing beliefs. Also, I am a recovering addict, would that be an issue?

>>1592313
I firmly believe most people benefit from some basic framework of spirituality or religion. It doesn't have to be set in stone, but just thinking that there's something out there can be extremely comforting to a lot of people. Most atheists I've met have been edgelords, permanently stuck in their "fuck you mum and dad! I'm not going to church!" mentality. If you lurk their communities online, you can see how they cling to science as their belief system. I'm tired and ESL so can't word this great, but I think it proves that we all need something to cling to and that in lieu of spirituality/religion, we'll just find something else. The few genuine atheists I've met have indeed been soulless, horrible individuals.

No. 1592420

>>1592153
I wasn't raised to be religious yet as I got older I found myself interested in religion and have read different versions of The Bible, the lost books of The Bible, The Quran, The Bhagavad Gita and various other religious texts. Even though it sounds weird, God existing makes the most sense to me. It's difficult to explain. Sometimes I think that most religions worship the same God and are just different interpretations of the same events that have been altered over time. Current religious texts are corruptions of what is the truth. They have been changed by men to fit their own desires to shape human behaviour and gain power. I don't know which is the "correct" religion, I follow the guidance that's found in all religions which is basically be a good person.

No. 1592445

>>1571885
Wow, what the fuck. My roommate is trying to come off Cymbalta and keeps having (terrifying) seizures, she's been to the emergency room, her psychiatrist, and her general doctor and they're ALL like "welp, there's really no way at all to tell what those are, most likely they are panic attacks" (she has a history of panic attacks). Do they literally not know this basic fucking shit of how the medication they prescribed works are or they straight up lying their asses off? This is sick. No one has even mentioned this theory which is super straightforward and plausible. They're acting like there is no explanation whatsoever other than they might be panic attacks. Do you know if these seizures are dangerous the way epileptic seizures can be, or are they different? I'm really scared for her.

No. 1592466

>>1571941
I stopped taking them because they didn't help with general anxiety for me (social anxiety disappeared though! apparently those are two different things for me lol) but the way my head felt while I was getting off them made me never want to take them again. I stopped cold turkey, I didn't know you shouldn't do that. It wasn't zaps, it felt like my brain turned into a spiral going inwards. Like random immediate sensations of my brain swirling into a vortex reaching towards something that wasn't there. It wasn't like dizziness. Lasted for two weeks.

No. 1592678

The Rockefeller’s are responsible for Big Pharma and possibly our and other countries’ healthcare systems suck

No. 1592722

To any nonna in this thread that is suffering from depression and doesn't want to take medication, look into amino acid therapy. This can be done by visiting a doctor that specializes in treating people with amino acid therapy or you can do your own research. Amino acids can be bought as powders from health food shops and are safe to consume as long as you aren't eating half a bag in a day. Amino acids are commonly taken by athletes and anyone that does a lot of exercise. Their use has been well researched and studied. Studies are freely available online.

The theory behind amino acid therapy and anti-depressants is the same, depression is caused by a lack of certain neurochemicals, these being serotonin, noradrenaline (norepinephrine) and dopamine. Anti-depressants work by blocking the reuptake of neurochemicals so more is available as a neurotransmitter. Tricyclics such as amitriptyline, SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) such as fluoxetine, SNRIs (Serotonin–Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors) such as venlafaxine, all work on this principle. MAOIs (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors) work differently but the theory behind why they work is the same. MAOIs block monoamine-oxidase which is an enzyme in the human body that breaks down neurotransmitters, so blocking the release of monoamine-oxidase means that more neurochemicals are available as neurotransmitters.

Neurochemicals are synthesized in the body from amino acids. The source of amino acids is protein. Protein is made up of amino acids and these are released as protein is broken down in the digestive tract. Serotonin, noradrenaline and dopamine are synthesized from tyrosine and tryptophan. By ingesting more tyrosine and tryptophan, the body now has what it needs to synethize an adequate amount of serotonin, noradrenaline and dopamine. Instead of blocking the reuptake or preventing the breakdown of neurotransmitters, which has systemic side effects, amino acid therapy works by simply providing what the body needs through diet supplementation.

This is a basic explanation. There's many theories as to why depression occurs and this can range from what is posted above, to bowel issues that prevent the absorption of amino acids and the inflammation theory which is based around the modern diet providing an excess of omega-6. It's likely caused by multiple factors that aren't addressed by anti-depressants which is why they either don't work or turn people into life long patients.

I successfully used amino acid therapy to treat myself for depression in my early 20s when I was struggling to cope with being abused and neglected as a child and teenager. My GP wanted to prescribe venlafaxine which I refused.

No. 1592889

>>1592387
Well it's called "holding the silence", which is a form of silent prayer that is done together. The idea is you're listening for/to God (or "the Light" since not all Quakers believe in big G God) together, rather than a sermon, since Quakers don't have priests, ceremonies or sermons. I meditated for years but silent worship feels different & more effective imo. Being an ex addict (or even current addict) is totally accepted, I'm one, as is being an ex con, Quakers are known for their work helping people in jail and etc as well as climate and feminist activism. If you like reading old religious texts, the work of Elizabeth Fry is great since she focuses a lot on women's role in Christianity (here's some other Quaker women leaders too www.quaker.org.uk/blog/8-badass-quaker-women), alternatively here's a starting point https://quaker.org/becoming-a-quaker/ Quakers like to read passages from "Quaker Faith and Practice" to start meetings, it's like a guidebook on how to get into it since the Quaker experience is different for everyone. Fox, the guy who founded it with Margaret Fell in 17thc, summed it up as respecting "that of God in everyone" and therefore refusing to accept discrimination or any authority above God. They got arrested a lot and we still are to this day kek

No. 1592895

>>1592466
>>1592445
ayrt, I think doctors must be lying about not knowing the side effects, since many doctors are on them too. All seizures can be dangerous, so please look after your poor friend nona, but hopefully the zaps will stop soon. They're triggered by moving your eyes left and right quickly, so shutting your eyes can stop the zaps. If you taper off very slowly, like 25mg steps a week max, the zaps go away quicker, I guess because the brain has time to adjust. Mine have only just stopped & I'd had them for weeks when I made my original GABA post. YMMV but drinking loads of cranberry juice seems to have helped (had a UTI too cos I'm cursed kek). Idk if it has long term effects, I feel like I have brain fog but I also have long covid. I think if you're young & healthy your brain should bounce back.

No. 1592897

>>1592895
samefagging to add, I feel no different from how I did on the sertraline, except that I'm laughing more and feeling more confident, with others have pointed out. So sometimes I cry for "no reason" (healthily expressing suppressed emotions) or get angry, but on the other hand I can actually enjoy being who I am sometimes. Personally I'd say "treating" depression with ssris is only worth it if you literally never laugh or never feel anything positive, cos otherwise it's not worth losing the ability to feel intense positive emotions as well as sad ones.

No. 1592957

>>1592889
AYRT, thanks for the links, nona. I've bookmarked them to read later. This genuinely sounds like it could be the more accepting, chill religious sect I've been looking for.

No. 1592968

>>1592097
I read a convincing article that argues "rib" denotes "uterus" (partially from context and partially on philological grounds). Since then, I haven't seen another fitting interpretation that convinces me.

I study ancient languages and history, but am just now learning Hebrew (my focus up to now has been on Greek and Roman stuff, esp. religions). I'll defend my PhD in the fall/winter, probably. Conspiracy nonnies will appreciate that my most speculative chapter connecting a certain aspect of Old Testament prophecy/revelation with a Greek (and later Roman) goddess has won me some skeptics. Especially since it's not a universally "good" goddess. It's kind of funny how biased some of these people are by modern conceptions of divinity and binary thinking.

No. 1593069

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Now, I don't believe in majority of the wild theories about Hollywood, but I'm starting to believe that Hollywood probably does have public humiliation rituals to get certain types of people who are willing to sacrifice their dignity. These rituals are also probably used to weed out those who either don't want to participate, or have parents or guardians who object and care for their kids. Think back to some shows you watched as a kid on Disney and Nickelodeon. I'm willing to bet there was at least one crossdressing episode, where a child actor had to crossdress for some convoluted reason, and it was presented as "funny", but would have been uncomfortable for the child actors. Sensible parents would never expose their kids to such situations. However, fame/money-hungry parents would. This practice would be an ideal way to both to humiliate the child and to test the parents' willingness to how much their prepared to sacrifice of their kid for fame.
pls don't post any pictures of actual children for obvious reasons

No. 1593077

>>1592968
>my most speculative chapter
I'm so curious. you probably shouldn't post in detail for anonymity's sake but what's the gist?

No. 1593079

>>1592895
>They're triggered by moving your eyes left and right quickly
Interesting. Have you ever heard of EMDR? I wonder why rapid eye movement can affect the brain so much.

No. 1593084

>>1592466
You're not supposed to stop cold turkey ree! Yeah the inward spiral is a very real feeling. Terrifying.
>>1592889
Quakers are great, it's so interesting that such a pacifist people got arrested a ton.
>>1592897
Sometimes I wanna get off meds to not depend on them, but honestly, I still laugh/cry/feel emotion on it. Off of the meds I didn't really feel anything except a cold, hard pain in my heart and a constant background narration about death. I still feel intense emotion, so I personally think these meds do fix whatever was wrong with my brain. At least I hope so.

No. 1593101

>>1593084
>You're not supposed to stop cold turkey ree
yeah I figured that out lol

No. 1593122

All the new disney remakes and films, including all movies for companies owned by disney like marvel, are for money laundering and tax write offs. They say they cost way more than they have, because none of them look even remotely decent quality, then they fudge the numbers to look profitable. Nobody likes these movies, people use them as agendas but nobody actually likes them.

No. 1593186

>>1592895
>>1592897
It isn't just zaps, it's full-body seizures that look the same as an epileptic seizure (to me). Uncontrollable shaking. The actual seizure part lasts around 15 minutes but she is very anxious/shakey and has other symptoms like a panic attack for 30 minutes or so and then sort of out of it for hours. They actually always start while she is almost asleep. Not fully asleep but in that sort of pre-sleep stage where it looks like she is asleep. She actually just stopped tapering off and is now taking the medication again because it is too difficult/scary to deal with. She wanted (and was told by her doctors) to come off the medication because the side-effects are so horrific in the first place so it's pretty fucked up. I was with her at the appointment when they told her to come off, and I asked if there was a way for her to come off more slowly due to withdrawal effects (I have been on psych meds so I knew that this could be a potential issue) and they told her that 25mg is the smallest dose of cymbalta and it's completely 100% fine to just stop taking it at that dose and in fact there is no other way to taper off because that's the smallest dose they can prescribe. Then I look it up online and see that many people take like 9 fucking months to a year to taper off that dose and do it by taking the beads out of the capsule. I feel like I'm living in some kind of bizarro world. Like how the fuck do the doctors have less information than a random imageboard poster or a five minute google search? They never came across someone before who had withdrawals off stopping cymbalta, when if you google it it seems like every other person has extreme difficulty? These aren't even general doctors they are literally consultant psychiatrists who were in education for a fucking decade and specialized in prescribing this psychiatric medication who charge 250 euros to speak to for 15 minutes. I don't understand how this can be happening.

No. 1593198

>>1593186
cymbalta? shit i'm glad i stopped it so early then. i tried it years ago. i feel like i've tried almost everything now. it made me get angry really easy so i quit it a few weeks in. the worst withdrawal symptoms i've ever had were from pristiq. terrible brain zaps. restlessness. i was off of it 3 days cold turkey because my doctor didn't order it in when he was supposed to and by that time i had to get someone to drive me to the pharmacy once it finally got filled because i could not safely get there myself. waiting in the pharmacy line i had to lean on the friend who brought me 'cause i was nodding out in a weird way

No. 1593203

>>1593186
Nayrt but god thats infuriating. I took myself off prozac which I know isnt the same drug, but I started taking it 6 days a week for 2 weeks, then 5 days for 2 weeks, then 4, etc til I was doing one on a Sunday, then none. Staggering the off days when doing 5 a week etc. I think I had and still have some withdrawl effects (this is recent) mostly anxiety and bouts of crying? Not awful but noticable. If 25 is the lowest maybe she can start skipping days? Or maybe dissolve the pill or tablet in a measured amount of water, and drink exactly half one day, other half the other, and so on. If its a tablet can she crush or split it? A mortar and pestle pulverizes tablets super easy, so its finely mixed powder that way the same ratio of whatever is uniform, instead of splitting the tablet or capsule in half and maybe getting an uneven distribution of ingredients, of tht makes sense. Good luck nonna with your friend. I really feel for yall.

No. 1593207

>>1593069
I can't remember who but a black entertainer spoke about how Hollywood specifically wants to humiliate black men and will make them do some zany cross-dressing shit before letting them do bigger projects.

No. 1593230

>>1590358
Ayrt, the test was negative! I'm crying with relief that I don't have cancer but also crying with sadness cos I probably have Crohn's. I chased up the results today & receptionist was like "uhhh the results are here but the doctor needs to speak to you about them…" aka we might tell you some horrible news in about 6 weeks. So this test has saved me from going crazy. Thank you nona!

No. 1593258

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>>1593207
It was Dave Chappelle, but what he said, I believe, applies to most Hollywood stars. They have to take on at least one embarrassing/emasculating role, so that the producers can confirm their power over them.
picrel is young Tom Hanks btw.

No. 1593279

>>1593230
Nona that's fantastic! I know Crohn's is horrible, but my mother has bowel cancer and it's a really awful thing to have; it made my cancer look like a walk in the park. What the receptionist said to you is definitely NHS talk for "shit ain't good" but hopefully this will lead to you being able to take steps to manage your condition. Wishing you all the best. ♥

>>1593258
Yes! Dave Chappelle. I think it probably extends to all male entertainers too. Sex offenders are hardly the picky type. This theme of "breaking" men seems prevalent in all areas of the entertainment industry. Allegedly, rappers are targeted for gay sex (be that consensual or not) because of the excessive bravado they show and those encounters are then used as blackmail material. I think there's a lot of cycles of abuse though. Moids venting their anger at getting assaulted by assaulting others. I remember seeing a Lil Wayne interview where he admits to getting nonced on and enjoying it. IIRC he also implies that he continued the cycle of abuse with young kids in the studio. Kinda reminds me of the Puff Daddy fucked Usher and Usher fucked Justin Bieber tinfoil that's got pretty popular.

No. 1593292

>>1592968
I read that article too! It said that the original human being was neutral (both sexes maybe) and god took the uterus to make the woman, and what was left of the original human (without uterus) became the man. It was a very interesting interpretation and it always comes to mind when I think of religion.

No. 1593434

>>1593279
Nta but what you’ve wrote about about the sexual aspect in the rituals made me go back and watch the Madonna x Britney x Christina vma performance. From the looks of it, Madonna was ‘initiating’ them into the upper echelons of the music industry which might explain why Britney hasn’t been killed off yet resisting her programming and snitching nor Christina for making shitty albums that don’t make the cut.

Judging from how Madge was molesting the pop princesses onstage, I’m inclined to believe they had a ménage a trois afterwards.

No. 1593518

>>1592008
low iq take. why would hitler fight against the neo-nazis (aka ukranians)?

No. 1593540

>>1593279
Predators spend their whole brainpower devising ways to harm people without consequences, so it makes sense that they will always pick whoever they can exploit and gain access to without question. Young men in Hollywood are abused as much as young women, there is just an even greater stigma on saying anything for them. Its evident in what ends up happening to a lot of male child stars–poor Corey Feldman is considered a lying mockery when he came forward with the truth, and lost his best friend who was also abused to drug addiction. Homophobia in the black community is even more rigid, so preying upon young black men who want to be in the industry is the perfect crime for these evil men. Since they get off on breaking people, it's probably considered some sort of trophy to them. It's also well known that a lot of boy bands were victims of violent sexual abuse. It's pretty reasonable to be wary of most males who "talent scout" or manage young men.

No. 1594002

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>>1593540
I would bet that there is an equal ratio of abuse towards young men and women in Hollywood. It is also likely that most actors/actresses have either sold themselves or sold out their loved ones and are completely complacent with the system. For example, Meryl Streep defending Harvey Weinstein

No. 1594054

>>1592968
omg nonnie I wish we could read your thesis without you doxxing yourself, that sounds really interesting. Good luck with your PhD!
>>1593079
my uninformed theory is that rapid eye movement floods the brain with nerve signals, like how you'll get a low framerate in a videogame if there's suddenly a lot of objects on screen because the GPU has to work harder. I never got brain zaps while lying down with my eyes closed, but I've experienced them if I'm having a lucid dream or a nightmare, which suggests to me they're based on brain activity rather than seeing (although ofc when dreaming your eyes move around a lot as well).
>>1593292
Fetuses are all female at first and then develop male organs from the cells that would have been the female organs, so technically this idea reflects the reality that female is the default.

No. 1594674

>>1593077
>>1594054
hi friends, I have to sleep bc I'm traveling all day tomorrow but I'll post something about it later that doesn't dox me. There's actually a big space for me to play around in. I've also worked on identifying which classical (Greek/Roman) authors knew the Old Testament or intertestamental literature, since the Septuagint and Old Latin versions of the OT were circulating while classical Latin / Roman Greek authors were writing. That's a topic many classicists don't want to touch, despite the fact that there's literary value in the OT.

Love that nonnas here are interested in this stuff btw, I love reading your thoughts. Smarter than my grad school peers, many of you

No. 1594692

>>1594002
It's weird how a lot of these terms ended up in mainstream internet usage when pedo bear was a popular meme.

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I still very much believe in feminism, but I am starting to buy into the idea that the feminist movement was hijacked and started by the second wave, and has now been completely taken over by corporations and business owners. We saw the promotion of thinkers like Firestone (who argued that patriarchy is not caused by biology but by the female roles that were created through praxis) and Dworkin . At least Germaine Greer was honest about her ties with the CIA and her efforts to decrease the influence of socialist feminists

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>>1594938
If you look into it, you'll see that the idea of raping children has been pushed as part of "sexual liberation" even with radical feminism.

>Gayle Rubin, a feminist and a professor who wrote an article titled “Thinking Sex” which is regarded as a founding text of gay and lesbian studies, sexuality studies, and queer theory. She compared stigmatization of “boy lovers” to that of communists and homosexuals in the 1950s, and claimed that in “twenty years or so” the persecution of men who “love underaged youth” by the FBI, police, and watchdog postal inspectors will be seen as a “savage and underserved witch hunt” and that a lot of people will be embarrassed by their collaboration with this persecution.


>Pat Califia, a feminist and queer theorist, stated that “any child enough to decide whether or not she or he wants to eat spinach, play with trucks or wear shoes is old enough to decide whether or not she or he wants to run around naked in the sun, masturbate, sit in somebody’s lap or engage in sexual activity. We should be working to end the artificial state of sexual ignorance that children are kept in — not perpetuating it or defending it,” and said that true child abusers are “priests, teachers, therapists, cops and parents who force their stale morality onto the young people in their custody,” and “Instead of condemning pedophiles for their involvement with lesbian and gay youth, we should be supporting them. They need us badly.”


>Kate Millet was another person who has greatly influenced feminism, with her book Sexual Politics having had “seminal influence on second-wave feminism.” As the New Left Project notes she was one of the first to provide a “theoretical understanding of patriarchy as ‘the rule of men’, as a primary oppression that’s ‘more rigorous than class stratification, more uniform, certainly more enduring,’” the theory that became the foundation of modern feminism.

>In an 1980 interview which was reprinted in the book “The Age of Taboo,” when asked whether she thinks any limitations should be placed on sexual revolution, and what role should “cross-generational” sex play in it, she answered: “Certainly, one of children’s essential rights is to express themselves sexually, probably primarily with each other but with adults as well. So the sexual freedom of children is an important part of a sexual revolution.” She described such relationships considering the circumstances as “probably heroic and very wonderful,” and claimed that age of consent laws are “very oppressive” to gay male youth.

No. 1594954

>>1594054
>Fetuses are all female at first and then develop male organs
Female is indeed the default but saying all fetuses are female at first is not exactly right. Fetuses are underdeveloped, it's just that without mutations (male chromosomes) they will develop into a female because that's the default.
It reminds me of trannies going "I was a female at first and then something went wrong!" when in reality they were an underdeveloped fetus that then developed into a male.

No. 1594990

>>1594938
Any social movement capable of causing change will be infiltrated by intelligence agencies and used for their own purposes. BLM being a recent example.

No. 1595062

>>1594940
This is exactly why I've always been suspicious of so called "sexual revolution/liberation" narratives. It's just always an excuse to push it to the extreme and allow creeps to get away with anything. Progression isn't always a smart or even good thing, there are boundaries for a reason. I think it's just rebellion taken so far that people's brains fall out because anything that has "rules" must automatically be bad so the simple rule of not engaging with children sexually must be a negative thing right? Absolute degeneracy.

No. 1595078

>>1594940
This is so sad

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>>1594940
It's definintely not a part of modern radical feminism. I thnk Dworkin got some suspect ideas during the sexual revolution (including supporting troons) but came to her senses later on.
>Pat Califia
she has since then trooned out to no one's surprise.

No. 1595092

>>1595087
Unsurprising because she was always an nlog obsessed with BDSM, not a radfem, btw.

No. 1595206

>>1594940
>>1595087
Check out Gayle Rubin's "Thinking Sex", one of the foundational texts of feminist queer theory. It continuously refers to "cross-generational relationships/encounters" as something that ought to be normalized.

>As a result of the sex conflicts of the last decade, some behaviour near the border is inching across it. Unmarried couples living together, masturbation, and some forms of homosexuality are moving in the direction of respectability (see Figure 9.2). Most homosexuality is still on the bad side of the line. But if it is coupled and monogamous, the society is beginning to recognize that it includes the full range of human interaction. Promiscuous homosexuality, sadomasochism, fetishism, transsexuality, and cross-generational encounters are still viewed as unmodulated horrors incapable of involving affection, love, free choice, kindness, or transcendence.


And just to be remove any ambiguity that "cross-generational" might be referring to age-gap relationships between adults, you can find this in the footnotes:

>For more information on the ‘Kiddie porn panic’ see Califia (1980c, 1980d); Mitzel (1980); Rubin (1981). On the issue of cross-generational relationships, see also Moody (1980); O’Carroll (1980); Tsang (1981) and Wilson (1981).


What part of the text is that referencing?

>For over a century, no tactic for stirring up erotic hysteria has been as reliable as the appeal to protect children. The current wave of erotic terror has reached deepest into those areas bordered in some way, if only symbolically, by the sexuality of the young. The motto of the Dade County repeal campaign was ‘Save Our Children’ from alleged homosexual recruitment. In February 1977, shortly before the Dade County vote, a sudden concern with ‘child pornography’ swept the national media.

>In May, the Chicago Tribune ran a lurid four-day series with three-inch headlines, which claimed to expose a national vice ring organized to lure young boys into prostitution and pornography. Newspapers across the country ran similar stories, most of them worthy of the National Enquirer. By the end of May, a congressional investigation was underway. Within weeks, the federal government had enacted a sweeping bill against ‘child pornography’ and many of the states followed with bills of their own. These laws have reestablished restrictions on sexual materials that had been relaxed by some of the important Supreme Court decisions. For instance, the Court ruled that neither nudity nor sexual activity per se were obscene. But the child pornography laws define as obscene any depiction of minors who are nude or engaged in sexual activity. This means that photographs of naked children in anthropology textbooks and many of the ethnographic movies shown in college classes are technically illegal in several states. In fact, the instructors are liable to an additional felony charge for showing such images to each student under the age of 18. Although the Supreme Court has also ruled that it is a constitutional right to possess obscene material for private use, some child pornography laws prohibit even the private possession of any sexual material involving minors.
>The laws produced by the child porn panic are ill-conceived and misdirected. They represent farreaching alterations in the regulation of sexual behaviour and abrogate important sexual civil liberties. But hardly anyone noticed as they swept through Congress and state legislatures. With the exception of the North American Man/Boy Love Association [NAMBLA] and American Civil Liberties Union, no one raised a peep of protest.
>A new and even tougher federal child pornography bill has just reached House-Senate conference. It removes any requirement that prosecutors must prove that alleged child pornography was distributed for commercial sale. Once this bill becomes law, a person merely possessing a nude snapshot of a 17-year-old lover or friend may go to jail for fifteen years, and be fined $100,000. This bill passed the House 400 to 1.
>The experiences of art photographer Jacqueline Livingston exemplify the climate created by the child porn panic. An assistant professor of photography at Cornell University, Livingston was fired in 1978 after exhibiting pictures of male nudes which included photographs of her seven-year-old son masturbating. Ms. Magazine, Chrysalis, and Art News all refused to run ads for Livingston’s posters of male nudes. At one point, Kodak confiscated some of her film, and for several months, Livingston lived with the threat of prosecution under the child pornography laws. The Tompkins Country Department of Social Services investigated her fitness as a parent. Livingston’s posters have been collected by the Museum of Modern Art, the Metropolitan, and other major museums. But she has paid a high cost in harassment and anxiety for her efforts to capture on film the uncensored male body at different ages (Stambolian, 1980, 1983).
>It is easy to see someone like Livingston as a victim of the child porn wars. It is harder for most people to sympathize with actual boy-lovers. Like communists and homosexuals in the 1950s, boylovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult to find defenders for their civil liberties, let alone for their erotic orientation. Consequently, the police have feasted on them. Local police, the FBI, and watchdog postal inspectors have joined to build a huge apparatus whose sole aim is to wipe out the community of men who love underaged youth. In twenty years or so, when some of the smoke has cleared, it will be much easier to show that these men have been the victims of a savage and undeserved witch hunt. A lot of people will be embarrassed by their collaboration with this persecution, but it will be too late to do much good for those men who have spent their lives in prison.

No. 1595211

>>1594990
BLM was definitely started by feds. Unless they hijacked a local movement pre-Occupy and blew it up to what it is today.

No. 1595623

>>1594940
>Says radical feminists supported pedophilia
>All examples given are not radical feminists
If you're gonna talk about this issue at least mention Simone de Beauvoir signing a pro-pedo petition, or Andrea Dworkin saying that children are erotic beings in Woman Hating

No. 1595636

>>1571083
>CIA makes it so I don't have to have sex with some disgusting scrote to not be homeless
>thank you CIA

No. 1595697

>>1595211
what annoys me is how people fell for proud boys, that was the most obvious fed made group. I was unironically browsing 4chan when they popped up and remember threads where no one could find out the origins of proud boys, they just popped up out of nowhere. not even a shitpost on 4chan by some glowie to plant the seed. it's became painfully obvious when this "evil rightwing proud boys" group started "protesting" drag hours to give everyone the typical evil right wingers vs good guys lefties narrative. I hate this shit.

No. 1595710

>>1595697
QRD on this? I've heard some weird things about it too, like how a an ex-FBI agent that stormed the capitol and incited the Proud Boys into violence and to kill people couldn't answer whether he was still on duty on that day, and his role as an agent was "Homegrown Violent Extremism" or something like that

No. 1595723

>>1594990
Tbh these sorts of things are probably wholly incorporated into the business structure of public relations firms and risk mitigation services they offer their clients

No. 1595731

My personal tinfoil is that MENSA has dummified their IQ test down hard out to get new members to pay for membership. I'm willing to bet a 130 IQ on a MENSA test is actually like a 110-115 on a proper IQ test. Not low enough that it rings any bells, but low enough for people insecure about their intelligence to feel smug about it and become paypigs to MENSA.

No. 1595734

>>1595731
Why would anyone care about mensa unless they're losers who want to satisfy themselves? Normal smart people care more about becoming academically successful or doing most out of their intelligence whether that be in conventional or unconventional ways. Becoming a member of MENSA means nothing but if you use your smarts and become a surgeon, lawyer, very successful artist or something similar you'll actually live a much better life than the average person whilst a MENSA subscription won't do anything for your life quality.
I think iq tests are also not really accurate. An autist who's got good skills for multiple choice questions could very easily get a high score yet he/she still won't be able to achieve anything significantly better than the average normie with 80-90(quite low) iq. Judging intelligence based on multiple choice questionnaires fail because of how onesided they are in that regard.

No. 1596431

>>1592968
Rib myth most likely comes from another Sumerian tale involving a goddess coming from the rib of a male god, nothing to do with uterus. Early Jews copied the fuck out of Mesopotamian myths and concepts

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>>1589068
>>1589084
>Who's this man and what did he do?
This thread basically explains it better then I can

No. 1596798

>>1595206
>>1592153
A lot of things, actually. Some examples:
1) Nihilism and "we're animals" ideology is indeed a one-way ticket to fucking misery and one of the most fertile grounds for violent misoginy. The leaders who preach this are a few years away from using brain-dead women as broodmares. Indeed, "sin" is bad and leads to destruction. Even if religion is flawed, lack of it is always worse.
2) we're living on a fake & gay consumer society that does everything possible to get away from God, twisting the language. We're seeing this with "woman" & "child" in real time, but they did it before with "hard work" & "intelligence", "happiness", "fulfillment" and another nice chunk of words. We're trained to see black as white and white as black, some more than others and since i'm already refusing to see anti-social behavior (as in, attacks coexistence) as normal I'm going to unravel whole the veil heh.
3) a few personal miracles & stuff. I'm an almost crippled woman, I realize very quickly when something eases my pain kek.
>>1592420
>I follow the guidance that's found in all religions which is basically be a good person.
Thats the whole point in fact. And TPTB are on the way of destroying this too. The endgame is destroying the whole concept of "good" & "life", and like i said before, the mayority of males can't separate their "woman" concepct from their "life" concept and if they succeed welp here it goes women too.
>>1594938
It did, it was the whole sexual revolution. And it ruined feminism forever imo.
>>1595206
Shit like this is exactly the type of "sin" that destroys society that i was talking above. Also
>Chicago
Chicago is the occultist center of the West, anything werid that comes from that place is never a coincidence.
>>1595731
IQ as a whole is a trap and incredibly easy to manipulate. I'm not saying anything new here, but actually people knew how to distinguish a less fitted individual for some tasks before David Wechsler was born, it's not like nobody knew what a retard was before IQ tests. The only thing that changed after the implementation of IQ tests is that supposedly lower IQ individuals have their lives ruled by state intervention And supposedly higher IQ individuals are at the fringes of society

No. 1596838

>>1596800
nta but it's probably a problem with the site. it has glitched out on me like that

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Is there anyone who knows about Nostradamus's predictions and others who have prophesized an Antichrist? It's unknown how valid the prediction is but it scares me to imagine what the hell an Antichrist would bring if it wasn't already someone like Hitler.

No. 1597012

>>1571083
>>1594940
>>1594940
Firestone supported raping children as freedom from patriarchy too. sickening. search her name is zizek's repeating Lenin. the radical feminists who are invoked to implore that true radical feminism should accommodate males are like that.

> Shulamith Firestone went even further, expressing her hopes that, in a world “without the incest taboo /…/ relations with children would include as much genital sex as they were capable of — probably considerably more than we now believe."60


>60. Both quotes from Maureen Freely, “Polymorphous sexuality in the Sixties,” The Independent, 29 January 2001, The Monday Review, p. 4.

No. 1597022

both john wayne gacy and jeffrey dahmer were arrested for sexually torturing minor boys and let go by the police to go on to kill those victims and many more. the police let the serial killers go because they accepted their bdsm defense. who do you think advised those police departments to behave in such a way towards such cases. does anyone know.

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>>1596798
>>1592153
I don't consider myself a Christian and I acknowledge that a lot of evil has been done in the name of faith. However, as I've grown up, I have shed my childish disdain for the faith by learning about its historical contexts. What made Christianity such a revolutionary religion is the notion that it was all tied to God as a singular deity, the originator of all things and a deity of righteousness. Its core message is that humanity, specifically men, are flawed and corrupted, and this is the reason behind calamity, chaos, and evil, rather than any vengeful deity. To put it simply, the philosophical concept behind Christianity is centered around self-accountability and is easier to understand. Christianity was also incredibly popular with women. Women within Christianity had more opportunities than their standard Roman counterparts as they could serve as deaconesses, and even as a form of elder. They could also join communities of celibate women and be free from the demands of husbands. In addition, within Roman families, it was common practice to leave any subsequent daughters or extra sons to die in garbage dumps. Christians would go pick up these abandoned babies and raise them. As a result, there was an even larger number of women who were Christian. When they married Roman husbands, they were likely to convince them to convert or raise their children as Christians. So I can understand why people converted, but the issue was that Rome made this faith into an apparatus of the state, declaring its version as the only correct one and labeling those who followed the faith in their own way as "heretics".

No. 1597387

>>1597375
In my part of the world it is women who resisted Christianity the longest, keeping their pagan beliefs and practices. It was only accepted after incorporating a ton of those pagan practices people didn't want to give up and they still constitute 90% of local religious traditions.

No. 1597393

>>1597387
That was another aspect of Christianity's popularity, you keep aspects and traditions of your old faith and just incorporate them with in the Christian framework. evil gods became bad spirts, heroes and demi-gods became saints and the holy mother became Mary.

No. 1597461

>>1583136
>>1584468
wellbutrin gave me seizures which i now have, even off the medication
it worked so well besides that, why is it such a good medication with such bad side effects?

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>>1571083
Recently I was thinking about whether there is any conspiracy background to lucid dreaming and some parts of dream research in general. I know it has been a part of many cultures (to various extent), the it became a subject of experiments and even occult practices, then others made it seem like some less or more esoteric hobby. I’m a spontaneous lucid dreamer and don’t actively pursue LDs, aside from that I remember many of my dreams and sometimes experience precognition in dreams.
Some weeks ago I saw this review on Goodreads of a book I read before. It made me view this author in a different light (I didn’t know anything so I was simply neutral but now I’m suspicious). Is it possible that some of the people who consider themselves LD teachers or experts are hidden manipulators or might intentionally expose people to stuff they’re not ready for or something? Reminds me of how Carlos Castaneda formed a cult - a definitely more popular example than this.
IMO not all but some dreams might really show you stuff most people wouldn’t believe and it’s not surprising at all if some people seek contact with that world for shady purposes.
Picrel 1/2

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No. 1597840

>>1597814
>>1597815
I fully expect the CIA has had a good look at lucid dreaming and what's possible with it. The fact a spook wrote this book all but confirms it. The CIA has looked into meditation (particularly hemi-sync) and shit like remote viewing so they're not strangers to more esoteric schools of thought. I've never had lucid dreams myself, but I was in an induced coma for 12 days and I was aware of the fact I was dreaming. It all felt very real to me and it did a real number on my mental stability when I woke up. Maybe they're encouraging people to try lucid dreaming to fuck their minds up, idk.

No. 1597936

>>1592722
the serotonin theory of depression is just that, a theory, there are plenty of competing theories, plenty of scientists do not agree that low serotonin is the problem, some even suggest that high serotonin is the issue. The antidepressant tianeptine is an SSRE, working the opposite way to the popular SSRI antidepressants. It's not available in america afaik, which is too bad it could be good for people that don't respond to ssri's to try the opposite.

It is not safe to take tryptophan like that, taking tryptophan is only marginally safer than taking SSRIs, people develop issues from these supplements, including herbal ones like valerian root that are used to increase serotonin. Please look up serotonin syndrome, taking serotonergic substances or even tryptophan itself can be dangerous. Ii've seen people that claim they fixed their issues by blocking tryptophan absorption, the serotonin theory doesn't make much sense when people doing the exact opposite to each other both get results. Personally I've responded horribly to any serotonergic substance and only had success with the opposite.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mood-swings/202210/has-the-serotonin-hypothesis-been-debunked
(paper referred to in this post https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0)

relevant: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763415000287

they suggest that the benefits of ssri's are not due to the increase in serotonin. Both drugs that result in an increase and drugs that result in a decrease of serotonin are used to treat depression, how does this make sense? there are also many studies showing that serotonin is associated with anxiety. Either way things are not as simple as high serotonin = good, serotonin is involved in may different processes in our bodies and can easily be dangerous. You can do serious harm to yourself with natural things too. My mother recently bought herself some happiness supplement, she was feeling really depressed and she's never had depression before, looked at the back and it's all the herbs that can raise your serotonin levels naturally, in someone that already has serious health issues it could very well do serious harm, she was luckily fine once she stopped taking it.

You don't get funding and you don't get published if your research is too controversial. The serotonin theory was criticized from day one, and studies that criticize it are finally beginning to see the light of day. How often is there a scandal the like of "white coats for hire", or some story in the news that they knew x drug is harmful but was still released on the market?
plenty of the popular theories have nothing backing them, most people go to college, they learn what is currently accepted as fact, they don't look for the initial studies that were done that supposedly prove it, it just becomes a myth everyone repeats. Like the article above mentions, the serotonin theory of depression was never proven.

I am in no way against natural medicine and people trying things for themselves, entertaining alternative theories and alternative medicine, just be careful because natural remedies can have bad side effects too. You can kill yourself by overdosing on SSRI's and you can kill yourself by overdoing natural serotonergic plants and supplements. Herbal tea's and supplements have hormonal effects, so make sure you read as much as you can, and look for studies on the topic if there are any, unfortunately they don't like to fund those cause you can patent a plant.

>>1593186
she could try GABA as a supplement, i know it supposedly can't pass the blood brain barrier, but it worked a bit for me. Phenibut is addictive like alcohol but it is modfied GABA to help it cross the BBB, it could help when the anxiety is really bad, when it feels like a seizure might come soon, i used to get seizures, now that i think about it it was after i first took ssri's.. alcoholics can get seizures like that when they quit bc of the GABA issues too, and in russia they would be given phenibut to help with the withdrawals, not recommended long term though since you'll just get dependent on it instead. I only recently just quit it after using it for a good 7 years for anxiety and sleep, i was terrified to quit after reading other people's stories but it went shockingly fine, happy not to be taking anything now since it gets expensive. I think there are some even safer options but i forget the name. Maybe there are better safer ways to increase GABA that you can find, i haven't looked into this in ages.

I've read about the brain zaps and danger of ssri's right as i started taking them from a biologist called ray peat, he had an article on serotonin that was very controversial at the time, but in less than two weeks i ended up with the symptoms he described, the ssri's completely fucked me up, at least i knew the cause then otherwise i wouldn't have known they were the issue. I'm kind of all over the place in this post but above i mentioned that they researchers suggest something other than serotonin is the reason ssri's work, and this guy had proposed that decades before them, that it was allopregnenolone, which is being tested as an antidepressant now for post partum, but at ridiculous prices. I've taken some of the powder before and did feel better from it, i believe that i read something about weed raising it too, maybe that is why so many weed smokers claim smoking weed helps them with anxiety and depression, i personally get really bad effects from weed though. iirc the mechanism was like that of ssri's, the brain protecting itself and increasing pregnenolone as a result..

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1489234/
this is from 2006 the side effects of these medications have been known for a very long time, they just get ignored. doctors and pharmaceutical companies deny it. I'm a very sad big pharma slave worker, i used to argue with my professors that the companies know their products are harmful but they'd just call me cynical, they don't like to face reality that they are part of a corrupt system and try to believe it's good.

>>1593203
prozac was so awful for me i took it only for two weeks as a depressed college student hoping it would help me get through things, instead it made me manic, unable to sleep, and at the end of the two weeks i had some sort of breakdown and tried to off myself, i wasn't suicidal before i took it. But it was known to make people suicidal, somehow it got approved, cause obviously medication for depression making you worse is working exactly as it should. I was taking lexapro very briefly before that and some dude i hardly knew started freaking out that i should stop taking it because his mother killed herself after a short time on it. I know some people swear by SSRI's but i've only had negative experiences and most people i know too. i'm so angry about the harm the pharmaceutical industry knowingly does. It's not even a conspiracy just fucking corrupt fucks who value money above all else.

No. 1597950

>>1596781
this is cool, i think i read about proteins assembling together by themselves, i think it was emergence of life by sydney fox, it was a really long time ago, but i think it talked about life forming on volcanic rocks, rather than starting in the oceans, it's been a while. Do you have any interesting books to recommend? I've seen mentions here and there that the genes are not as important as claimed. Harold hillman and gerald pollack also have alternative ideas on the structure of the cell that are interesting.
the cold war in biology by Carl C. Lindegrin is a book i've been meaning to read, from the description "The author gives us information about those scientists who disagreed with mendelian genetics and goes into some detail about the "war" between those who attribute cells' characteristics to genetic control mechanisms and those who believe the cytoplasm determines many of the charactaristics."
The Molecular Vision of Life: Caltech,the Rockefeller Foundation, and the Rise of the New Biology by Lily E. Kay is another one i plan to read soon.

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dont know if anyone has been keeping track of the aliens and ufo thing but things are getting spicy

INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

No. 1598020

>>1597375
>>1596798
So I'm not a "tradcath", but I personally am unconvinced by the idealistic atheism espoused by orthodox Leftism.
As far as I see it, the only philosophy for which modern materialism and Atheism provide for is nihilism. Everything else is religion and worship, The way I see it, many on the Left make liberalism their religion instead of seeing it for what it is(A socio-economic theory). It takes no genius to see that "not woke" and "Heretic" carry the same broad meaning.

No. 1598339

>>1597815
well fuck, I found this guy on social media last year and started following him for the detailed sketches and dream diaries he posts. Probably never would have looked any further into it, thanks nona

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>>1597980
Operation Paperclip NASA Nazi scientists aren't really my area of expertise but I saw something interesting about this earlier today involving one of them.
tl;dr old nazi scientist who worked for the US Govt says a fake alien invasion is part of the plan to justify building space weapons systems. the weapons will be used against people on Earth of course and the aliens are a lie. I find this very believable, like this doesn't even feel like a conspiracy to be honest. I just don't see why there is a need to lie about aliens… does it violate big-deal treaties to put high powered weapons in space? (not my field of expertise like i said)

source: https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread810793/pg1

>—"Wernher von Braun was an SS officer and Nazi German scientist. He helped Third Reich at developing space technology and V2 rocket (first long-range ballistic missile). After the war, he and some of his rocket team were taken to the U.S. as part of the then-secret Operation Paperclip. Once in USA he helped NASA realizing their missions and later became vice president at Fairchild industries.

>Leading engineer and consultant at space program and missile defense (Carol Rosin) worked with Wernher von Braun (1974-1977) as his spokesperson at Fairchild industries. She claims he revealed to her a sick plan to weaponize space using staged alien invasion as an excuse.
>Carol Rosin's testimony:
>When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr Wernher Von Braun. At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would live a few more years to tell me about the game that was being played - that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control the Earth from space and space itself.
>The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were told that they were coming to get us and control us-that they were "Commies."…"Then terrorists would be identified. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.
>The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it.
>Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.
>And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card"

No. 1598379

>>1598375
the video

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also saw screenshots of this interview with Carol (January 1996). not even about aliens but obviously related: article/source: https://worldservice.org/issues/febmar96/visionary.html
>I first heard conversations about "seizing the high ground to control earth" when I became the first woman corporate manager of Fairchild Industries, an aerospace defense company.
>Von Braun thought it would be interesting, even funny, if a woman worked to prevent the stationing of weapons in outer space-which he sensed was soon to occur. He believed a woman would be able to get into more doors to discuss the subject. He had worked for Hitler, and understood war and weapons.
>In 1977, after his death, I was hired as a space and missile defense consultant by such companies as TRW. While working on the MX missile, I learned that the aerospace defense industries were preparing to escalate the arms race into space. The plan is to put hundreds of battle stations in space with thousands of weapons pointed down our throats.

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Buildings rule the world, all of global civilization is designed to service them, not human beings. The biggest mistake of human history was the construction of permanent structures, which eventually led to our enslavement by them. We've been enslaved by buildings ever since the construction of the "great" pyramids, and have worshiped buildings ever since.

A building gains consciousness through their material, built from molecules of life, they can live as careless as plants, yet dictator everyone more than Stalin and can control you through mind-control.

The post 9/11 insanity was because 9/11 was an attack on some of the most prominent buildings in the world, not because people died. The outrage of the BLM protests is because buildings are targeted with graffiti and broken windows. The federal secret police was called into Seattle to defend a federal courthouse.

Still not convinced? Freemasonry evolved from the guilds of stonemasons and cathedral builders of the Middle Ages. Consider how buildings such as McDonald's franchises are like organisms, reproducing according to their architectural DNA. On the back of every bill of U.S. currency is a famous building. The "hell" of the modern world is homelessness: the state of not being owned by a building. A building is very similar to a tree, drawing nutrients from the land around it via its "roots," which are roads and utility infrastructure. But unlike a tree, a building is an undead organism that feeds off of the destruction of life at every step; the "forests" of buildings we call cities is where life is most absent and detached from the natural world.

What is the end-game of buildings? The elimination of humanity and all life on Earth via complete robotic automation of the means to sustain and build them. Nothing but mindless building forever and ever. Buildings have a sentience, and that sentience is that of a paperclip maximizer.

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>>1598383
What do you think nona, could there be a possibility that there actually are already weapons in space? For example China could be already sending them out without USA's knowledge.

No. 1598459

>>1598426
Cool thoughts. Nature is working on destroying buildings all the time though so i think they wont be that successful. Earthquakes, water, or in my case ant infestation. Ants are eating through concrete and you can't fix it, they are in the walls everywhere slowly eating the building, no way to get them all out. I miss caves.

No. 1598477

>>1598426
I think this post is retarded but buildings are sexy as hell

No. 1598499

>>1597814
>>1597840
Yep there are established links between the CIA and the study of lucid dreaming, mainly in what the CiA called Project Stargate. It was a programme of remote viewing training and experimentation, and many techniques used for both "conscious" RV and lucid dreaming RV were developed and adapted into experimental designs during this program. I posted a huge infodump image on this subject in the last thread, check it out if you're interested cos I tried to summarise it all in chronological order with actual CIA sources. Reading that author description, I was surprised it didn't mention he was hanging out with Ingo Swann or something kek my tinfoil is that Stargate became G.A.T.E. but regardless, you might find the sources interesting. You can read he entire Stargate archive online thanks to Black Vault: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/cia/stargate/STARGATE%2520%252310%2520436/Part0001/

No. 1598501

>>1597375
sage for OT but who painted this? I love images of Jesus where He looks like a real human being with emotions this the highest-res "flood it again" meme

No. 1598510

>>1597375
Not to mention that Jesus, for his time, had incredibly progressive views when it came to women. That men should treat their wives like he treated his followers. That men are the problem when they lust after women, not the woman. That even prostitutes are worthy of his love. And so on.

No. 1598511

>>1597375
Okay but that was at the first spread of christianity and a very small part of history compared to the great harm it did after that. There are a lot of women today who are religiously devout too but that doesn’t mean it’s good for women.

This is not directed at you specifically but it weirds me out so much how in the tinfoil thread there’s so much unironic praising and people into christianity, which was a tool used for centuries from people in power to keep the masses in line before they came up with the more devious methods of today. That’s what they used to discredit the women who had knowledge in the past, that’s what they used to kill and silence women, scientists, anyone out of line. They used the idea in christianity, that suffering is good and it means you’ll get a reward in the afterlife, to keep them complacent while they led terrible lives thanks to the rich. It led people to abandon their connection to the earth and allow its destruction. How can you look at everything that’s happened in its name and think, oh there’s something to this? Christianity has permeated so deeply in the western philosophy that you don’t even notice those patterns of thinking. You know how so many people believe the apocalypse will happen soon? That’s because it’s something ingrained in christians, waiting for the end of the world. There’s a whole book about it in the bible and devout christians teach that to their children. If you always expect the world will end then what’s the point in doing something to stop its destruction or to make it a better place? And even when you notice something is wrong with society today you use christian language like calling things demonic, the devil’s, soulless. I understand why and those are our words for greatly evil things but it still isn’t a neutral descriptor, it’s religiously charged language.
I just want to say to all women who need spirituality, don’t turn to christianity or other organised religions. Turn inwards. Find yourself, and find a spirituality that centers women and worships life. Look at nature and see how it’s all connected and wonderful and you’ll find all the spirituality you need and it won’t be tied to things tainted by males.

No. 1598526

>>1598511
Nona, this thread is women thinking critically and sharing their personally developed beliefs. You're telling us males gave us these ideas? Nope. You should know that spirituality doesn't include forcing your views on others, so please don't do it here. Men did the things you're complaining about. If those men had actually listened to Jesus, they would've known better than to do what they did. Their mistakes don't take away our right to our beliefs as women, why let them oppress us twice?

No. 1598536

>>1598511
why do you think we don't know any of this?? do you think women are stupid? also do you think the same thing about islam and judaism or do you only feel comfortable telling Christian women than they're dumb for not being libfems?

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>>1598511
>> You know how so many people believe the apocalypse will happen soon?

No. 1598539

>>1598536
Yes. Islam and Judaism come from the same roots as Christianity and were used for the same purpose. Anon is right that the function of organised religion was to keep people in line and make illiterate peasants at peace with their shitty lives. The Bible says that women should submit and be silent. How many women were killed in the name of religion? You can't deny that it had sexist roots. She also didn't call you stupid or tell you to be a libfem.

No. 1598541

>>1598539
NTA and I don't know the context but a lot of religious people don't even follow every facet of the Bible anyway. Then again hardcore Christian women love to NOT-ALL-MEN!!! but then throw women under the bus. I think it's a way to cope with being married to a hardcore tradcath man aka a misogynist/neurotic/sinful/paranoid weirdo. Mother Mary and Jesus are cute idc

No. 1598544

>>1598539
>>don’t turn to christianity or other organised religions. Turn inwards. Find yourself, and find a spirituality that centers women and worships life. Look at nature and see how it’s all connected and wonderful and you’ll find all the spirituality you need and it won’t be tied to things tainted by males.

this is telling women to submit and be silent. We need to participate in organisations that we want to change. Jesus never said women shouldn't speak, He argued women's prophecies were superior to men's. The early Church fathers pushed the women be silent idea to cut them out of early church politics, which is why women fought for centuries to be allowed to speak in Church again. When we wanted the vote, did we all move to a different country to get out of that democracy? No, we stayed in our country and engaged with policy reform until we won the vote. You're entitled to your own beliefs but suggesting we "turn inward" in response to challenges and disengage isnt helpful.

No. 1598551

>>1598544
>We need to participate in organisation
good fucking luck doing any change in a church lmfao unless you just want to do voluntary work and nothing that will change the status quo and be a handmaiden anyway so they will gladly accept you. you seem sheltered and you probably never stepped a foot in a church if you think they are all strict jesus followers hippies that are all accepting and respectful of women like the OG was.

No. 1598553

>>1598539
clearly we should move to China, abrahamic religion is illegal there so the women are free from patriarchal oppression

No. 1598557

>>1598551
I think there are cultural differences here that are confusing things, I'm not american. I got blessed by a female Bishop at the weekend, until recently the head of my christian state religion was a woman. A big chunk of activism groups in my country are female led and Christian, ie Christian women in an official Christian organisation who are working for reform. It definitely exists nona, I hope you find like-minded people wherever you are, if that's something you're interested in.

No. 1598559

>>1598553
Yes, clearly. At no point did I say only Abrahamic religion was responsible for women's oppression. But you can't deny the role Christianity played in women's oppression, and still does to this day.

No. 1598561

>>1597375
>Christianity is centered around self-accountability

that is quite literally the opposite in practice, a lot if not most avid church goers commit sins, cheat on their wives, practice homosexuality, etc then go confess to a priest their sins and they're 100% forgiven just to rinse and repeat, do everything again.

also being a thirdie (I know this is a phenomena in US too though), I see a lot of evangelical churches gladly accepting former prisoners as long as they accept jesus, as in they will forgive you killing, raping women and children and doing other heinous crimes as long as you accept jesus it's fine you did all of that. literally everything being the opposite of self accountability, as long as you accept jesus and god they will forgive you for anything so it's a free pass.

christianity is a religion that relies on guilt, if you don't feel guilty of the things you do in front of god, you won't go to heaven, that's why they shame the fuck out of everything, it's okay to commit those sins as long as you feel guilt and shame so you keep being dependent on it. and a lot of times, they usually guilt trip people on the most asinine things (wearing anything but modest clothing? will go to hell! watch pornography or play videogames? hell to you!! same sex attraction? you might as well rimjob the devil himself!!!) but most christcucks still keep doing those things secretly while being judgemental and projecting their own guilt on people who don't want anything to do with it. because they want everyone to live in guilt like they do, that's why you will see politicians trying to introduce the most traditional laws while they probably snort cocaine from a tranny's dick on their holidays.

No. 1598562

>>1598553
any organization led by men will oppress women, your sky daddy organization is not safe from it, neither is the chinese communist party.

No. 1598563

>>1598557
just say you're in europe and you're protestant, quite literally the only mainstream christian church that will allow women in leadership.

No. 1598564

>>1598562
agreed nona! That's why churches should be female led.
>>1598561
Correct, I agree with you too. Those people are hypocrites and I doubt Jesus would recognise them as Christians when they die, you have to actually mean the things you say and do in religion. As a non-american it seems crazy how hypocritical these religious politicians are, and crazy that it seems to benefit them vote-wise as well!

No. 1598565

>>1598563
Well I would if it was true kek I'm not European and not a Protestant. The bishop was protestant though tbf. I didn't mean to make you mad nona, I think we likely do agree on a lot of things.

No. 1598567

>>1598557
Ntayrt but may I ask what country are you from/ currently living at? As someone from a traditional catholic European country, the mere idea of reappropriating Christianity sounds as naive as attempting to do the same with something as huge, powerful and male-dominated as the pharmaceutic industry. Christianity, as any other abrahamic religion, was build by men withing patriarchal society, it only benefits men. I remeber arguing about the Holy Trinity with a catholic female teacher, she claimed that despite calling God the father and Jesus the son there was nothing that linked these figures with actual male authority, which I still believe is complete bullshit. The Mother Mary only exists to call the entire female sex a bunch of whores by comparison.

No. 1598573

>>1598567
I'm curious too. She said she's not in Europe so most likely a country where christianity is not the majority where she lives, the thought of a female led church in a christian country makes me kek because it would immediately be shut down by both men and women because women in those countries are extreme handmaiden pickmeishas. Being from a country like that myself.

No. 1598575

>>1598564
>I doubt Jesus would recognise them as Christians when they die
that doesn't matter because J-man is not here to judge them, instead we have corrupt pastors and child rapist priests calling the shots and everyone inside those religions pretending they're blind or something.

No. 1598577

>>1598573
she's probably the Quaker from upthread, it's big in Africa

No. 1598584

>>1598526
But those men didnt listen to jesus and christianity grew to the menace it has been for centuries. And you willingly take their side and play by their rules?
>>1598544
Turning inward in the sense that you’ll realise those feeling of holyness and connection to god come from yourself, not an outside force. If women realised their power and worth and felt more secure, we could make our own organisation and form our own spiritual paths. You don’t have to be part of christianity to dismantle its ideas. It’s old and organised and rotten from within. We need to build our own things and show an alternative is possible instead of struggling in places made to opress us.

No. 1598585

>>1598539
NTA but that anon didn't mention Islam and Judaism so their opinion is discarded. If they're too scared of being labelled anti-semitic or islamaphobic then they need to grow some fucking ovaries before pointing the finger at Christian women in the tinfoil thread. It's been discussed before in here that most of us have very unconventional beliefs when it comes to Christianity, it's not a simple 1:1 comparison of those of us in here who vaguely follow Christianity with different interpretations of the bible and trads.

>>1598538
KEK

No. 1598587

>>1598544
Anon most women can't evoke change in those organizations, a woman can't become a priest or a pope, only a off-shoot that's meant to do quiet work and stay off sight, a woman can't become a leading figure on those religions, it doesn't matter how much work you do or how hard you try to change shit, it's over before you start, how many women have tried before you?
Focus on our own spirituality and then start your own, you can't make good food when all the ingredients are spoiled from the start, just start over.

No. 1598589

>>1598584
ayrt, I know you disagree with me but I agree with almost everything you're saying, it's just that I believe what you aspire to is possible within christianity. Nuns are a huge spiritual inspiration, many orders of nuns formed despite (or because of) the persecution and exclusion they suffered in the church. I'm reading The Female Mystic: Great Women Thinkers of the Middle Ages atm and there's so much in there that's eyeopening. Beguine communities (unofficial communes of "worldly" religious women who exclude men and do nun-like work, but don't seclude themselves from the world) fit what you've described to a T and I strongly believe they should come back. Let's start one on lolcow kek

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>>1598585
Anon probably doesn't mention Islam and Judaism because it isn't as familiar to her as Christianity or affected her as directly, so she can't criticize it more in-depth, it doesn't mean she isn't critical of it, you should probably fuck off to /pol/ if you wanna white-knight for Christianity this bad.
I went to a girl's only school where our teachers were nuns and it still doesn't change that Christianity is still fucked anon. Those women could have been religious leaders and be actually valued, they aren't even allowed to host a church, you can't confess to them, we had to bring male priests to host confessions, churches and other cerimonies.
Nuns and convents were good for women and a good escape from marriage in the middle ages, but you can't deny they weren't valued and were "just women". We should form a different religion and allow these women to achieve their full potential.
Putting the tinfoil back on, I fully believe most religions trap women on purpose to stop them to fully achieve their spiritual potential because men can't achieve it, men can only read out of a book and abuse those "lower" than them, men exist purely as helpers and try everything to reject that role and make boys reject it too.

No. 1598613

>>1598600
I wrote a much angrier post replying to >>1598585
but I saw your reply and you get where I’m coming from. I did say organised religion in my post cause I know the abuse of women happens everywhere, in the eastern religions such as buddhism and hinduism and pretty much anything led by men too.
>>1598589
It’s really hard for me to see that happening within christianity. I grew up in a very religious family and we often went to monasteries and my parents were friends with a lot of monks and nuns, and they really didn’t seem very happy or fulfilled. Especially the nuns, there was a great sadness within their eyes. There’s certain things that christianity teaches about how to treat your body and yourself that just have a really adverse effect on people. A lot of the nuns looked much older than their ages, had lots of white hairs and bad postures and they radiated a downtrodden feeling more than anything. I see that now as the effect of the mental state that christianity puts you in. (Some of the male monks were happier, especially in one monastery that was on top of a mountain, they had a garden and animals but also game consoles and a library with secret doors).
If you want to only pick the good values of christianity and make something for women I think you’re basically making a new religion anyway. Imagine what an effect the lifestyle of making arts and crafts, living in nature and contemplating life would have on those women if they didnt have a constant litany of self hatred in their minds. They would look happy and full of life and give off a wonderful radiating energy and that’s what I want to see for them, and not the women I used to see in the monasteries.

No. 1598636

>>1598613
christianity (probably the other abrahamic religions too but I have no knowledge about them indepth) teach women to hate ourselves so we stay subservient to men. that we are inpure, unclean, we were born from sin, we were developed from a man's body part (which is ironic because most fetuses are XX, XX is the default chromosome until they develop Y chromosome, so being female is being default human), all those things so we learn that men are superior which is complete and utter bs.

No. 1598654

>>1598539
Again I'm not a Christian but anyone time some states that "Islam, Christianity and Juhdaism" are all the same, I dismiss them cause it shows ignorance.
So, Christianity comes from Hellenic Tribal Judaism, Jewish religion as we know at it know has changed drastically from its roots. Now regarding Islam and Christianity, imo what made Christianity a religion that evolved in social laws and structure was Christianity's flaws, Christianity since its inception has been mistranslated and misinterpreted, you can create literally anything you want the Bible, Islam however has firm laws for all aspects of civilization, it does not have to evolve cause Muhammad already ruled the perfect state

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>>1598450
Maybe not kinetic but there are cyber weapons. The US can launch cyber attacks from space, jamming, hacking computer systems, etc. SpaceX's Starlink has been used by Ukraine to pilot bomb drones in the war there (picrel from reuters). If anything America will be the first country to put kinetic weapons in space. China doesn't even have a space force, meanwhile the US had a giant space force (USSF) with a shitload of funding that's gotten a big push in the last couple years.
Don't fall for fake WMDs again, nonnie.

No. 1598797

>>1598510
>Jesus, for his time place, had incredibly progressive views when it came to women
Again, not in my part of the world. Local tribes were pretty egalitarian before Christianity came along and women had a bigger and better role in the old pagan beliefs

No. 1599383

>>1597980
Did you read thru the "whistleblower" 4chan thread? Id screenshot but its a shit ton of reading & Im on mobile rn

https://imgur.io/a/NXjWQaN

No. 1599407

>>1597980
This is anecdotal so don't take it as truth. I knew a girl through the Inuyasha fandom who had family in the military and she told me that UFOs are real but don't operate as many think they do. I tried to ask for more information but she didn't know more because her family didn't want to tell her. I lost her contact and I wish I didn't.
Anyways the question I have is why are they becoming so open about ufos? And notice how many msm figures are pushing this story? Something smells fishy.

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No. 1599514

>>1599383
Happy to see his mention of "Remote Viewing colleagues", maybe my mandatory primary school extracurricular will get me a job after all

No. 1599667

>>1573116
Hey anoooooon
Did you drug and interrogate your boyfriend yet

No. 1599793

>>1598654
>Christianity bad but Islam good
Oh, you’re one of those people. That religion was founded by a pedophile, is very oppressive to women and condones honor killings to this day if they don’t fall back in line but sure; being a Christian is so oppressive.

No. 1600143

>>1599793
nonna, did you read my post, my point was the Christianity's inherent theological flaws make it a better religion then IMO all other faiths, cause you create whatever meaning you want.

No. 1600285

>>1599407
Wasn’t ‘disclosing UFO’s’ a part of project blue beam?

No. 1600287

>>1599383
I believe this..thank you for sharing.
>>1599514
kek

No. 1601024

>>1597980
I've been studying aliens and UFOs for 15 years. I had long ago come to the conclusion government would never share what they knew about the topic (which is like a bottomless pit of information you can never dig out of) so I'm kind of wary now. There's no practical motive for them to come clean.

No. 1601050

>>1598450
Both are true at the same time. We already have weapons in space, and in fact already travel space (the Space Force that everyone jokes about has been active since the 1960s), AND it's true that the government seeks to perpetrate false flag alien invasions as a means of control.

No. 1601184

Oh, fuck off. It honestly feels liuke they're pointing at us going "HA HA" I can't even get myself to care anymore. Nonnies, I'm tired. I've been drained from everything.

No. 1601350

>>1597980
>>1601024
What do you guys think about the weird thing going on with cows having their tongues cleanly removed with zero traces of disturbances or animals around the bodies ? I don't have links to the stories or articles but I heard it sounds like alien activity

No. 1601421

>>1601350
Beef tongue is delicious.

No. 1601476

>>1601350
Maybe they have an aroma once they're "touched" which is why predators don't go around them. I feel bad for the cows though.

No. 1601480

>>1601476
Odd none of these people have cameras. Even the boomers in my area have some on their animals and are quick to share any weird activity on FB.

No. 1601573

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>>1599383
Is there anything in there about triangle ship aliens? I swear I don't have schizophrenia but since I moved house I've been seeing a large triangle shaped thing hovering in the sky a few times a week. I live on a hill overlooking one of the busiest airports in my country & the busiest runway's flight path is over my house (the lights on the right of the pic is from this). Nearby neighbours unlikely to be able to see this due to trees etc at least none of them have mentioned it. I'm mostly deaf and sometimes get confused by the loud aircraft sounds overhead when I'm at home, so I have a tracker that tells me what plane is flying over my house, needless to say this large black triangular thing is not a scheduled flight. It doesn't make any sound & is shaped kind of like a much smaller version of a star destroyer from Star wars, only black not white and with an orange light at each point. Sometimes it's pointed upward like in pic, sometimes it's the right was around like a normal plane, in which case it hovers much lower, maybe only about 60m off the ground. When it's close, I swear I can feel vibrations or something like heat coming from it, hard to explain but it's like when you get off an aircraft and you're walking by the plane, there's like heat and static coming off it that you can feel from a distance. My hearing aids might be detecting something from it? It only appears just after the sun sets but looks darker than the surrounding sky, like a hole in the sky, and is never in the way of any planes or helicopters. We also get weird (lenticular?) clouds around when it appears, but that's probably due to the airport. My nigel has seen it but won't see it as a vehicle with lights on the corners, instead he says it's 3 motionless, silent helicopters with orange lights… I told an ex-pilot who worked with my nigel, he said he's seen things like that flying from that airport but seemed to blame the airport for it & said that's why he's an engineer now (idk what he meant). Has anyone else seen this type of UFO or am I just insane? Should I tell the airport or would I get put on a list?

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>>1601573
samefag, ok I see how comically shit that image is now, see picrel for clearer image (but it is literally just 3 orange lights with a slightly darker triangle between them). I only have the camera on my phone & the moon barely even shows up on it so

No. 1601595

>>1601573
ive seen the exact same type of craft in broad daylight. triangle with a light at each point. it hovered, moved directly up and down in a way a plane cant, then zoomed away incredibly fast. it's frustrating, not even my family believes me. you're not crazy, this is a commonly reported ufo shape.

No. 1601599

>>1601595
no shit retard, it is the most stable and aerodynamic shape for any aircraft. Why do you think fighter jets and stealth aircraft are all some form of a triangle? doesn't mean it is fucking aliens you braindead cunt. these are next gen stealth bombers on test missions and the hovering is old tech anyway, look up VTOL technology like the Harrier 1 and 2. I seriously hate how brainrotted the internet is these days like you people are seriously thinking space aliens jfc. if you had any shred of education about how big and vast space is you would understand how implausible the aliens narrative actually is. this is skunkworks type tech for next gen bombers and/or chinese spy planes doing the same shit.

No. 1601601

>>1601595
aryt, in daylight?? I'm jealous but also I think I'd lose my mind kek did it have texture on the outside or just smooth? Did it reflect light? I've always pictured it as textured but matt black & rough like sandpaper for some reason. Did you feel sick? When I see mine (I'm guessing they're not the same one) I get headaches & feel nauseous but if I literally just look away from it I feel better, makes me imagine that it knows I'm looking at it & it's trying to train me not to look at it kek

No. 1601602

>>1601599
woah there sweetie, settle down please. Why would they be routinely testing their magic VTOL spy jets next to a busy metropolitan airport in the same location for a year straight, hmm? Not the smartest place to test is it? There's no military airbase here either. Multiple airports would have their flights cancelled a few times a week if there was a government spyplane flying around at the height of a crane.

No. 1601610

>>1601602
pretty obvious they are trying to test near large areas to get closer and closer to being not noticed, when they get spotted they know what went wrong and since the aliens narrative is so laughably retarded it makes the best cover story. OF COURSE you would run tests near major cities because the aircraft will be used to BOMB major cities, theyre intentionally trying to not get caught but when they do it means their stealth tech and tactics need improving. The end goal is obviously to be able to do flyby missions around a large number of witnesses and not be spotted, the public is actively aiding in the development of this tech by spotting them.

but yeah no wait it is TOTALLY magic space elves from 2.5 million light-years away yep totally makes sense. idiot if these were aliens they would have been doing this during the fucking middle ages and the US Civil War and shit yet there is no account of this ever occurring in history except in modern times. If aliens are here now then they would have been here 5000 years ago doing the same shit because that amount of time is nothing to a type 69 kardeshev species.

so why is all this only happening in modern times (cold War era to now) when the tech definitely exists? why are there no aliens during the battle of hastings. why did ancient Rome never see of document this? dumb alien brainrot narratives need to die.

No. 1601614

>>1601610
Well I mean there are historical sightings of unusual stuff in the sky, going back thousands of years. I'm not sure why you're so upset about this conversation kek. If it's a stealth plane why put orange lights on it so it can be easily seen? There's no way they'd be doing test flights near airports, this is what happened when an unauthorised drone was spotted by a member of the public near a similar airport: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatwick_Airport_drone_incident
I'm fairly sure our government no longer has the money, power or communication ability to a) own a future stealth jet, b) plan test flights where the airports know in advance and c) avoid crashing the jets into passenger planes. Also VTOL, sure, but is there VTOL that doesn't cause any downdraft or disturbance of anything underneath it, even at the height of a tall tree? Like could I stand right under one in my back garden and not notice? I'm going to assume you're a salty aerospace engineer who doesn't like their work to go unappreciated. Don't worry, your spy planes are very cool, good job.

No. 1601618

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No. 1601639

>>1598797
Oh my God shut up. Island dwelling Savages love to pretend they lived in lala land before le evil hwite man showed up but if you open any history book they used to eat human flesh or something. Shut up, the world has never been kind to women. Even in your brownie Utopia

No. 1601645

>>1574709
all my coworkers are coughing/getting sick at the moment. but still well enough to work. whenever im at work i become very congested and use a lot of tissues, but at home/elsewhere im totally fine. its very odd.

when I got the second (maybe first?( vax, I smoked some weed either that day or the next day and passed out on a friends driveway. i felt my soul leaving my body as if I was truly dying and was begging my now ex to call an ambulance. the cunt called me selfish and entitled for this. i then proceeded to shit my pants and felt fine afterwards, lol

No. 1601647

>>1601645
kek nona did you shit your pants in the ambulance or on his drive?

No. 1601658

>>1601639
agreed nona, from reading ethnographies some of the practices Christian missionaries encountered while colonising "traditional communities" were absolutely vile. Local people often got angry when they realised the Christians would tell the neighbouring groups about their "closed practices" because they knew it was shameful. Not only cannibalism but ideas like "cooking the baby" spoiler for rape: routinely gangbanging a pregnant woman to fill her with as many men's sperm as possible, making her and her baby public property rather than letting the father be unknown - framed to the mother as being medically necessary to make the baby survive birth, normalised incestuous pedophilia ("sexual initiation") between a man and his nephew, and mutilation of a wife's body on her death so that her husband can keep her body parts often her severed labia as a masturbatory aid. One culture saw themselves as matriarchal, but that's because when there was a single mother, her brother or uncle would act as the baby's father rather than her having to get married… she would then have to have any future children by the same uncle or brother to ensure the safety of her original child tinfoil: these cultures are idealised by Western outsiders because of these facts, not despite them.

No. 1601672

>>1601658
Imagine unquestionably believing Christian missionaries from 600 years ago. What could they have possibly gained from exaggerating or just outright lying kek

No. 1601674

>>1601672
I said ethnographies, ethnographies were written by anthropologists in the 20th and 21stC. Those anecdotes were told by the people themselves & recorded in ethnographies. Anthropologists lost all credibility if they were found to have lied in their ethnographies, like Margaret Mead. But also imagine believing stories about the totally not rapey cultural traditions of your ancestors that were handed down over 600 years with no evidence kek

No. 1601675

>>1601639
I'm European, Slavic. Our tribes were egalitarian, had no leaders at all, and our local religion and traditions were supplanted by that dumb middle eastern shit. So now instead of local legends featuring wolves and oak trees we read a book featuring camels and deserts, describing the plight of some desert people that's got shit all to do with us, our history and our traditions.

No. 1601678

>>1601647
on the driveway, he never did call an ambulance. i think i might destroy his car one of these days

No. 1601699

>>1601675
no leaders? unlike every other society in human history? wow that's amazing. If only you guys had colonized everyone else, we could've ended all war

No. 1601703

>>1601675
The thing is, Christianity is such a loose religion that that it became yours, their stories became yours but the people decided the values and even the aesthetic

No. 1601706

>>1601699
>every other society in human history had leaders
Wrong. Apart from Slavs, there were many leaderless societies throughout history, and there still are some even today, like the Piraha people.

No. 1601707

>>1601706
who picked the name then

No. 1601709

>>1601707
What kind of Ritard question is this, does the president of the USA get to name the USA

No. 1601711

>>1601706
From wiki "They trade Brazil nuts and sex for consumables or tools, e.g. machetes, gunpowder, powdered milk, sugar, whiskey." Sounds like an egalitarian paradise. Cos the men trade sex too, right?

No. 1601716

>>1601703
>their stories became yours
I really feel zero connection to stories in the Bible. How is Moses leading Israelites through some far away lands my story? It's not.

No. 1601722

>>1601614
>our government no longer has the money, power or communication ability to a) own a future stealth jet, b) plan test flights where the airports know in advance and c) avoid crashing the jets into passenger planes.
USA has the biggest military in the world and the government disappears literally billions of unaccounted-for dollars into it, why would this extremely basic task be beyond them? There are declassified documents and photographs of weapons development including stealth aircraft through modern history, it's not like they stopped. Why do you think they can't do it, genuinely?
(NTAYRT, I was enjoying reading the UFO discussion but this is a weird take)

No. 1601729

>>1601722
Because I'm British, not american. We barely have a normal military left due to cuts let alone a secret fleet of silent UFOs kek our prime ministers father in law is richer than our military budget. Our government is about as organised as the Taliban and less effective.

No. 1601783

>>1601350
This has been going on decades. Linda Moulton Howe is the premier researcher on this phenomena. It's not just tongues either. Many cows will have multiple organs cleanly cut with laser like precision. There is also never any blood or any traces someone was there - i.e. tracks of any kind.

She's written a book, produced a documentary on the subject and you can find hours and hours of footage of her discussing her research on Youtube.

No. 1601793

>>1601573
Triangle craft are very commonly reported shapes. Mainly because several governments, not just the US, have black project craft shaped like this. Some of it isn't even black project any more. It's important to remember well over 50% of all UFO sightings are experimental military craft. Alien craft is much harder to detect - they basically only make themselves seen when they want to be seen.

No. 1601851

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They take your will to fight out of you, they misdirect and suppress your anger. They keep you tired and busy, so you cant go after them.
Since birth we've been socialized to be nice and to put men above us, because they can't carve their freedom out, they must take from us. Since they're unable to become the creator they desire, they resent all creations seeking to destruct them, for to create you need to love your creation and willingness to learn from it, both which men lack.
Do you see how they treat all robots as inherently evil? The black and white thinking they have and encourage? Unable to empathize, grow, learn and create the male can only project himself onto others.
All the "good men" are just your creations, extensions of yourself, a good male isn't born, it's created by a woman, who he copies from, don't be fooled. Most people are aware of this subconsciously which is why the "i can change him" trope is so popular, however you aren't changing him, you're creating him, why should we spend time trying to change mostly unwillingly worthless subjects, who try to take your creative away, when we could create our own or our own happiness. They popularize the change him narrative and make girls create a man so they don't benefit or free themselves.
Break your programming, don't change him, change your world, create your happiness.

No. 1601862

>>1601851
Absolutely, totally, undoubtedly based

No. 1601879

>>1601851
What exactly is your tinfoil here? That women are raised to be docile? To accept shitty men as little DIY projects to be improved? This has all been said before ad nauseam. Take it to radblr, Dollar Store Dworkin.

No. 1601903

>>1601879
men aren't diy projects but broken projectors that merely idle and distract, the creative is being subverted and mispurposed not only by them but by their destructive "creations" (they aren't such)

No. 1601983

>>1601851
i would genuinely love to read more about this. if its just an original thought, post more, nonna.

No. 1602045

>>1601675
>no leaders
>egalitarian
No wonder y’all were taken over by the Russians/Soviets kek

No. 1602124

>>1601675
When humans started to settle and practice agriculture the notion of private property started to develop as well. At this point, women became part of that private property, the concept of ''heir'' emerged from the idea that what men had earned themselves would later belong to their sons and their male descendents long after they were dead. That's why women were sold between groups of people, men would exchange them for goods and vice versa. A woman would abandon her tribe/clan/people and become part of his husband's, and if he died before her she would obey his brothers or other male relatives of his. In ancient times not even children were thought to be the result of women's reproductive capacities, women were considered like vessels where men would put their seed and the female body would later give it back to them. There's literally not a single known past or present culture who wasn't or isn't patriarchal since the neolithic. There are only some weak traces of what some scholars believe to be matriarchal societies. Important Goddesses are an example of this. Even nomadic cultures have always been patriarchal. I think it's cool if you embrace your pagan tradictions.

I will never understand why some women pretend abrahamic religions are just voluntarily misunderstood, every sacred text (Bible, Coran, Torah…) explicitly wants us to serve. We aren't even allowed to read most of these texts by ourselves anyways.

No. 1602145

>>1602124
Nona have you seen the movie Agora (2009)? You would fucking love it.

No. 1602148

>>1601851
I am so interested in what you’re saying but I don’t understand this part:
>Do you see how they treat all robots as inherently evil?
They as in men? How are they treating robots as evil and how does that relate to the rest of what you said?

No. 1602154

>>1602145
I remeber when it came out and I never went to watch it because I expected it (still do) that the plot would be tough, but I'm a little bit familiar with the figure of Hypatia. I'll check it out if you recommend it, anon!

No. 1602182

>>1602154
It’s tough in the sense that Hypatia gets fucked over and the men she knew are total trash which you probably know, but your post reminded me of it and I enjoyed it as a movie

No. 1602226

Totally not dystopian at all

No. 1602227

>>1602226
this is so retarded if i ever met anyone who uses one of these i am bullying them

No. 1602239

>>1602148
it really reminds me how most of the robots have female voices, female models, features. it also reminds me how someone broke into alisa (the russian equivalent of siri / alexa) speaker and released thousands of conversations. it’s mostly retarded men and their outrages towards this “robot”, calling it a bitch, slut, etc. and ofc threatening to beat it up for getting something wrong. also literally jerking off to it, asking it to say something weird, or straight up asking it to search up cp on yandex (the russian version of google). i don’t remember if it ever was translated to english though. i know russian so i was able to read it.

No. 1602247

>>1602239
>>1602148
so yeah i forgot to add why it clicked in my brain. women were and still are seen as evil and demonised by men. most robots and AIs are created to resemble women, imitate our voices, bodies, manners, they have our names. might not be what nonna mentioned but that’s how i interpreted it.

No. 1602267

>>1602227
this is 100% our future. VR will become the predominant way in which people interface with the internet within 50 years. This is the infancy stages. Wearable needs to get smaller and cheaper first - then a new social media platform within the VR space needs to take off in popularity. Once all that takes place its full speed ahead. I fully expect within 100 years we will mostly live out our lives within the VR space. The people who will fully adopt this haven't been born yet or are babies now.

No. 1602273

>>1602267
thank god i wont live to see that shit

No. 1602278

>>1602267
I doubt it. Too many people naturally get motion sickness from such things. And the headsets are really uncomfortable for anyone with high levels of farsightednesses or nearsightedness because you can’t comfortable wear glasses while wearing the headsets and most people don’t wanna wear contacts all the time especially as they get older and their eyes get dryer

No. 1602290

>>1602267
good luck getting stacy to put on the vr headset

No. 1602301

>>1601645
omg nona, this happened to me, too (didn't shit my pants, though, kek). I've never fainted before in my entire life, and after the second round of the vax I haven't been able to smoke weed without feeling like absolute crap. When it happened a few days after the second vax, I got so damn dizzy and tired and felt kind of like when you smoke and drink too much and get the spins (but much worse). So I went to go lie down, but passed out before making it to bed. I could feel the blood leaving my brain, it was so weird. My bf said I was sweating and clammy, and he thought I was having a heart attack. What the fuck did that shit do to us??

No. 1602304

>>1602301
gee i sure do wonder why trials for a heart failure vaccine are in the works after the covid vaccine! sure is strange! haha!

No. 1602375

>>1601573
you're not crazy anon, i dont know what this thing is but its real ive seen it too. i was living in Hawaii and saw it, only once though but i never forgot it. i was always stargazing and it was different from anything i had ever seen and moved so weirdly. ive already written abt it here before but i wanted to tell you you arent crazy, it is real.

No. 1602408

>>1601729
Oh that makes sense… but you guys have so many wealthy freaks. I thought our militaries were basically thick as thieves and shared resources for this shit — is MI6 not a thing anymore? 5 eyes etc worldwide shit

No. 1602437

>>1601350

>>1601783
I don't follow stuff like this but I've read theories all of it is organized elite psychological warfare. dk why. I don't pay enough attention. https://isgp-studies.com/coast-to-coast-am-radio-on-ufos-aliens-and-conspiracy#cattle-mutilations

No. 1602442

>>1602437
I couldn't pretend to have an opinion why the organized elites would do that. as others have said, to distract from or hide their top secret military programs? idk.

No. 1602445

>>1602442

there are accounts of their nefarious activities and associations elsewhere in this thread.

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No. 1602516

>>1601851
Both Hitler and Stalin were mommas boys, and a shitload of serial killrs. It's ridiculous what some women will believe, it's beneath childish. You're just terrified of accepting the reality of the world and humanity, and so you come up with these inane, mentally stunted opinions that nobody over the age of three could believe.

The world and humans are cruel and merciless. Full stop. Everything beyond that is worthless utopianism and immaturity.

No. 1602531

>>1602516
Hitler was, but Stalin, Mao, Saddam and Hitler all shared one other important thing in common, they had incredibly abusive fathers and were noted to be bullies as school-children, those are the types to grow up to be dictators.

No. 1602639

>>1602516
>The world and humans
Who commits 90% of all violent crime again? Sorry retard sex that has started all most every war, it ain’t women. It ain’t ‘humanity’.

No. 1602649

>>1602516
>Men don’t have womb envy you child reeee
Explain trannies and trying to depict scrotes as the real creator via religion.

No. 1602771

>>1601983
When I say "creation" or "the creative", I don't mean just traditional forms of creative expression like writing or art, it's more than that.
The power of creation is being suppressed and misused due to males, even though such allows for true happiness and "ascension". I believe female creation is just not something physical but spiritual as well, more powerful than we treat it as.
Most female creation is controlled or deemed "childish", "cringe" or "crazy", for we must not grow, or enjoy ourselves. When we create it must be only out of obligation or for a male.
>>1602148
Robots/AI for now are merely men's dolls and tools, they aren't full beings or creations, at least for now, they see an extension of themselves or their "creation" and assume it wants to destroy them, to kill all of "humanity", and take over, they project their own wishes and evil onto these dolls. If a toy you played with as a kid would gain sentience, would you assume it would kill you? We probably imagined that scenario, men in the same position with robots/AI assume they would automatically hurt us and use us for their goals, isn't that what the male thinks already? How he treats those he deems inferior? Especially if they see it as female like >>1602239 explained.

The robot embodies the fear the male has, a being with equal or superior power but with the same mindset as them, or a servant who tires of the abuse suffered, recognizes her own power and rebels.

No. 1602780

>>1602516
>Muh humans are cruel and merciless!! Please conveniently ignore who commits 99% of these cruel crimes and suffering
>Everything beyond that is worthless utopianism and immaturity!!
Women care for balance and peace in a violent, unhappy male dominated world. As a male, you don't understand concepts as creation and hope because you're inherently broken and destructive, your world is broken, without men, this will surely not be the case, men are the origin of every evil

No. 1602794

>>1602771
If you're not talking about art, I really hope you're not talking about giving birth.

No. 1602798

>>1601599
the fact you can't type a paragraph without using misogynistic slurs tells me all i need to know, yes i'm sure they were testing top secret stealth craft over my normal suburban neighbourhood at 5 pm. also kek at "giant blocky triangle moving straight up and down" being the most aerodynamic shape.

>>1601601
i didn't really notice the texture, it was fairly high up but it looked smooth. i didn't have any emotional reaction except "what the fuck is that? am i seriously seeing that right now?" i was sitting in a car when i saw it and got out because my mind could not just fathom what the fuck i was seeing.

No. 1602802

>>1602798
Dumbass the shape is aerodynamic is for moving forward, thrusters make it ascend and descend and overcome the resistance. Do you not know what a fucking VTOL is? HOLY SHIT moron trying to talk about shit. Your answer is literally MUH ALIENZ and is the least plausible shit ever.

Hell you have zero answer for the issue of heat which is going to be generated by any such aircraft. If MUH ALIENZ were flying around heat signatures would be super easily detectable and half the fucking Navy's pilots would be out there hunting this shit down. That doesn't happen because it is OUR OWN TECHNOLOGY. Why do you think everytime a Navy or AF pilot sees these weird things they're not told to engage? They literally report these things and get told to not do anything because the brass already knows what is going on. God i hate how dumb you are really I do. Totes da aliems!!!!(calm down)

No. 1602812

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>>1602802
it's not worth getting this upset, just post a picture
>>1602798
it was an airplane nonnie
triangle is literally the stealth jet shape. the newest one from the US straight up looks like a flying saucer from the front and is a triangle when viewed from the top or bottom. the older ones like the f-117 also look weird and blocky and triangular and are officially unofficially still in use
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/26246-the-secretive-third-life-of-f-117-nighthawk

No. 1602821

>>1601595
>it hovered, moved directly up and down in a way a plane cant
they can. watch this and see how they can hover and rotate in midair and go straight up and down.

No. 1602823

>>1602794
NTA but I stg some of you are more sensitive about linking women and giving birth than trannies. Anon is just talking about womb envy but wrapping it up in pretentious hippy babble to sound smart.

No. 1602827

What are nonas opinions of WWIII? Will it happen? I think Russia and China and potentially North Korea will team up against US and EU. The US’s new generation is so soft I can’t believe they could ever win a war, I think China had a hand in that via tiktok and fueling consumerism via things like Alixpress, Wish and now Temu. There has also been pro-Chinese propaganda served to people on their for you page, so I bet there would also be rabid Twitter fights about how the US is soooo ebil for invading my cheap plastic crap and sweatshop thotwear factory state!!!

No. 1602829

>>1602827
If it does I'll probably enlist and fight if I don't have other things to do.

No. 1602833

>>1602829
which side would you be on?

No. 1602837

>>1602812
it was a thick triangle that moved straight up and down. i don't live in america. why would the us be flying fighter jets that move so fast it's like they vanish over random foreign neighbourhoods in the middle of the day. i have seen airplanes before, i have seen fighter jets before, i have looked to see if there is anything like what i saw. "it was an airplane" gee thanks never considered that in the literal years i have been thinking about this experience.

No. 1602841

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>>1602837
i'm looking at the pictures and that looks absolutely nothing like what i saw. it was literally a perfect triangle, it wasn't just 'thick' in some parts, it was like this except jet black and way thicker. it had a light at each point. it was the middle of the day, i know what i saw. if i was able to find a record of some explainable craft that matched what i saw i would accept it but please stop sending me pictures that everyone with a ufo experience has seen 100s of times and being like "oop solved it for ya!" 95% of ufo sightings can be explained and i'm sure many of them are what you sent but i can't even describe how strange and surreal what i saw was, the way it moved was incredibly fast and inhuman. it moved so fast it was like it vanished with no noise at all. i know people won't believe me, like i said even my family who i told immediately after seeing it don't believe me. but don't insult me by acting like i just never considered "it was a plane"

No. 1602845

>>1602841
not arguing about this any more especially with people who screech and use slurs but i'm begging people reading this to read "ufos: generals, pilots, and government officials go on the record," "in plain sight," and look into the works of stanton t freidman. there are literally video recordings TAKEN BY FIGHTER JETS showing ufos. but i'm sure it was just a plane and the literal pilots of the planes you're telling me all ufo sights are just got confused! they probably don't know what planes look like.

No. 1602847

>>1602845
quick someone in this thread contact the us military and tell them their fighter jet pilots don't know what fighter jets look like.

No. 1602851

>>1584227
>I don't understand people who come to the tinfoil thread to give totally mainstream takes everyone hears all the time
Samefag, and here they are again.
Hurdurr it's just a plane - go post that shit on Facebook for your fellow normies, gtfo here

No. 1602852

>>1602847
sorry i know i'm sperging but i can't fucking believe we're in an era where there is video proof of ufos, there are many respected scientists and military officials who believe in ufos, there is government disclosure from all major world governments about ufos, and the psyop from the 1950s to convince everyone that people with ufo experiences are all schizos is still SO STRONG that it causes people to have mental breakdowns when someone talks about having seen a ufo. like actually rage and foam at the mouth trying to get them to shut up and acting like they're stupid. WHEN THERE IS FINALLY ADMITTED, VERIFIED, VIDEO PROOF AND DISCLOSURE OF A COVERUP. gahhh we're never getting out of the matrix.

No. 1602858

>>1602823
What needs to be 'linked' of course women give birth, it's not really a controversial idea anywhere outside of tranny circles. Im saying were more than that. I think valorising something you don't even need to be conscious or even CONSENTING to accomplish over women's mental capacity is not a good look. Womb envy is a real thing obviously as well. I just can't stand this new age woo woo feminism that's like women are better than men, they need us but we don't need them (true) because… we can get pregnant. Yey. Like it just seems objectifying to me, we fought for so long to be seen as more than that. This supposed superiority just seems so much like 'well it's not really domestic labour because it's out of love' or 'well it's the most important job! far more important than anything you get paid money for! 'well men and women are different but equal, it's okay that men get to accomplish stuff, because women can give birth!' etc… (btw I support working mothers protections, maternity leave etc I'm not an antinatalist or whatever)

No. 1602859

>>1602833
US because I can't speak Chinese or Russian. I can't imagine North Korea would make a good ally to either China or Russia, by the way.

No. 1602867

>>1602859
Kind of off topic but do you think South and North Korea could ever reunify?

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No. 1602872

>>1602852
It's more like a disagreement about what the government is lying about. On the one side, you have people who believe the government is covering up the existence of real aliens; on the other side, you have people who believe the government wants us to believe in aliens as a cover for the military's secret weapons/aircraft research or possibly even as an excuse to put weapons in space that will be pointed back at earth to terrorize the population, or even just uses UFOs as a distraction tactic when they want to clog up the news and memoryhole something bad. (third option I guess is aliens are real and no one knows what the UFOs are, even the government. which, yeah… I guess that could be it.)

No. 1602880

>>1602858
AYRT, I agree we're more than that and the woo woo stuff is annoying as fuck. Motherhood is a wonderful, sacred thing, but like you said, the women before us fought to be saw as so much more than that. Sorry for being bitchy, I've just saw a lot of anons get twitchy at the mere mention of motherhood lately and I jumped the gun. Crossed wires, and I completely agree with you.

No. 1602911

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>>1602821
Man made flying saucers also exist
https://simpleflying.com/avro-canada-avrocar-flying-saucer-project/
I have no doubt this was just the first attempt and modern versions exist that aren't revealed to the public. It moves exactly like a flying saucer and it also resembles the stereotypical description of one.

No. 1602928

>>1602872
one narrative protects the elites who terrorize us and their expanding military death apparatus and Cold War while the other one questions the terrorist elite’s agenda. they are also using a male concept of matrix.

No. 1602953

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I genuinely believe that my generation has been psy-oped into liking old men, meanwhile we can't imagine ourselves with good looking men are our own age and have to set them up with other dudes(where one will be feminized in our minds as being a pseudo-female)

No. 1602960

>>1602827
It won't happen, everybody's got their fingers in everybody's pies. If it did, China and Russia would cease to exist as states, or at least their current regimes and systems of government would, so it would also be disadvantageous to go to war with The Free World (tm)

No. 1602961

>>1602872 read the article "ufo and the sovereign" (might be getting the name wrong). the gov knows about ufos but can't stop them or study them so they adopted a policy of denial bc they have no other good options. the idea that the gov uses ufos as a "distraction" is laughable, no one gives a shit about ufos and most people have no idea of the tiny amount of evidence that even one government (US) released. it makes no sense and isnt working at all if that's their strategy. also >>1602928 how the fuck does recognizing the existence of ufos protect the government, i know the government especially the US government is evil. i personally believe ufos began arriving in greater numbers after the invention of nuclear weapons in order to protect all of humanity from being killed in a nuclear holocaust. regardless, ufos exist with or without the presence of any government. they are documented and witnessed reliably for decades with undeniably proof, acknowledging them is apolitical. they are documented around the world. im so sick of people acting like if your recognize the existence of ufos youre somehow "protecting the government" how does that make ANY sense. there's no correlation. finally i just said "the matrix" because i can't think of a different term. interesting you call that "male" but are okay with ufo denial anons calling me slurs like "stupid cunt." this conversation is honestly upsetting, i hate how everyone seems to be totally blind and unwilling to do any research and if they even think about it at all it's hurrrr ufo protect government.

No. 1602964

>>1602953
I've never seen a normal girl with an old guy, they're always autistic or traumatized by the internet

No. 1602969

>>1602961
i wish i lived in the same reality that all other anons here apparently do where everyone believes wholeheartedly in ufos and will study evidence of them to the extent that they forget about everything else. seriously will you guys listen to yourselves. "believing in ufos protects the government" "ufos are made by the government as a coverup" this would only be even slightly believable if PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVED IN UFOS. even on the conspiracy thread made for discussing conspiracy i have multiple people telling me it was an airplane. NO ONE believes or cares about ufos, it's nearly impossible to break people's programming enough to get them to even slightly consider the possibility. looking at actual government programs like blue book or project magnet, their only purpose was to convince people ufos did NOT exist and to deny, deny, deny. but yes of course the government wants people to believe in ufos!! wow makes so much sense!!

No. 1602973

>>1602953
Just your generation? This has been happening for a long time, it's just more blatant now. Redpill loserbros openly idolise the father/daughter dynamic because they crave complete authority over a woman and "muh male advantage! women age like milk!". Meanwhile libfems talk about how "boys" their age are trash for not having a car, their own home, etc (gee, I wonder why…) and hype up older men because "yasss kween, get that bag!". Strangely though, I see more and more mother/son dynamics IRL because there's so many manchildren around these days. I think that might be part of why some women choose older men? Admittedly I am a lesbian, so what the hell do I know? But given the choice between a funkpop collecting skinnyfat nerd who's my age and an older woman that actually takes care of herself and wasn't a complete dork, I'd pick the latter. I'm not excusing the propaganda, it's still disgusting. I just think the manchild thing is part of why some women choose older partners.

No. 1602980

>>1602969
also can i just point out that the goalpost is constantly shifting
>"ufos are fighter jets from the military, there's no proof of anything else"
>proof is given that ufos are not military vehicles, gov admits they are not from earth
>"ufos are clearly a coverup by the government, you're protecting the government by saying they're ET"

like no matter what kind of proof is given, from government or not government, you will find ways to deny.

No. 1602981

>>1602973
>>1602953
could someone post that 1930's page of an actress complaining that she's constantly set up with older-men and just wants to be paired up with a leading man her own age.

No. 1602982

>>1602980
You're fighting a losing battle, nona. Some people in here are oddly close-minded.

No. 1602996

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>>1602982
i know, it just kills me because there's overwhelming evidence for ufos. once you start to research it it's life-changing how much proof is out there. even after i saw one i didnt believe it could be ET until i had done so much research and when i came to that realization it changed everything. so it's kind of heartbreaking to see how people so easily swallow the most easily debunked anti ufo propaganda, even people who are supposedly critical. if youre reading this please do yourself a favour and do some open-minded research, the proof is out there.

No. 1602997

>>1602980
UFOs being experimental and/or secret fighter jets and there being a government conspiracy go hand-in-hand. no goalpost shifting there. it's just a different conspiracy from the one where UFOs are from aliens.
the alien conspiracy is way less convincing to me because it usually goes like:
>the government is hiding the existence of alien UFOs
>except when the government is showing us the UFOs to prove to us they exist, which is somehow proof that's it's aliens
>and also when they're trying to make us think they don't exist, that's proof they exist too
or do you think the government actually just doesn't know?

It's not that I don't believe the nona who said she saw a big black triangle do some weird shit in the sky in broad daylight. I bet she did. But why does she think it's an alien thing?

No. 1603006

Mosquitoes are evolving. They don't buzz, they are clear, I swear they are getting bigger to eventually prehistoric times, they are getting faster and smarter and sassier.

No. 1603008

>>1602996
You dumbass bitches need to realise UFOs are a way for the US military and establishment to divert attention from political and economical crisis.
>Oh but then why don't they just say that there's alien life
Because tangling the possiblity of it over the populace is way better to keep people hooked in believing there are big alen secrets hidden somewhere instead of focusing on how the system is rigged agains them and organizing as a collective to overthrow it.

It's all a PsyOps, and at most all military plain and balloon experiments. Realise how the biggest military expenditure is at the USA, and that's also where most sights are at.

No. 1603010

>>1603006
That's no conspiracy, it's how natural selection works nonnie

No. 1603012

>>1602997
actually it's like this
>government can't control or fully explain ufos and ufos threaten illusion if government control so they adopt policy of denial
>different governments and different government actors over time sometimes don't follow that policy
>eventually overwhelming evidence (see: us nimitz tapes) forces governments to subtly admit ufos may be ET in origin

please read "ufos: generals, pilots, and government officials go on the record" by leslie kean. it is full of interviews with a huge range of people from all levels of government all over the world talking about their experiences with ufos in their official capacities and it's written by a NY times journalist. the fact is that one government can have an official policy of denial but not everyone in the government will follow that policy perfectly, and different governments have different policies (many european governments have admitted the ET explanation is possible for much longer than the US has), and government positions change over time with changing political circumstances. ex. in the cold war the US might have felt they could not admit any weakness in their air space and ufos could be a weakness, so total denial. now that's less important + better tech makes proof of ufos less easily deniable. stanton t freidman also worked on top secret gov projects as a nuclear physicist and has written articles explaining how such projects operate and why it's not impossible for ufo information to be classified but sometimes leaked or classified and stay classified. governments aren't perfect and "gov denied ufo but later gave a tiny bit of evidence" isn't actually that paradoxical.

No. 1603013

>>1603012
also i'm not gonna respond to that one anon but
>stupid cunt
>you bitches
so we all agree that's a moid… righrh

No. 1603016

>>1603013
I'm the "bitches" anon, no I'm not a moid just because I hate dumb anons and use derogatory terms historically used against women when referring to them. So, call me an hypocrite at most but don't you dare imply I have a deformed Y chromosome.

No. 1603023

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I think aliens are real AND the government is doing psyops.
There's a religious text called the Urantia Book that says our planet is quarantined off from other planets due to some celestial beings (who were basically aliens) breaking the rules a long long time ago, and we will continue to be quarantined until we get our shit together which won't be for a long time because we are so far behind the normal development of neighboring intelligent lifeforms. Maybe some space angel is breaking the rules again and popping in and out of site! or we're seeing someone get "enseraphimed" lol

No. 1603024

>>1603023
*sight

No. 1603043

>>1603010
No, the mosquitos have gathered in their secret government of the mosquito society and have created genome enhancing supplements and they will have their armageddon

No. 1603102

>>1603016
The scrote doth protest too much.

No. 1603146

>>1603016
>Rules for thee, not for me
You're a clown

No. 1603157

>>1603016
>How dare people assume I'm male just because I use sexist slurs and can't control my rage in normal conversations

No. 1603167

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No. 1603168

>>1603167
I wonder how the Unconventional Attractive Men thread feels about this

No. 1603169

>>1603167
did anyone see the blind item that he (unambomber) was corresponding with teenage Greta Thernberg from prison about politics

No. 1603171

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No. 1603177

>>1603169
No, wtf? Spoonfeed pls(spoonfeed request)

No. 1603182

>>1603168
They liked him when he was 16

No. 1603192

>>1603177
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/03/blind-items-revealed-5-reader-blind_7.html?m=1

> SUNDAY, MARCH 07, 2021


>Blind Items Revealed #5 - Reader Blind

>February 23, 2021

>The authorities have intercepted correspondence between two people - A young foreign woman who has been in the news a lot the last few years for speaking her mind on a particular problem and an infamous individual whose time in the public eye was before she was born.


>The infamous individual wrote something a long time ago that became public that the young woman agrees with. She has been discussing both theory and implementation with him in the letters.


>Greta Thunberg/Ted Kaczynski

No. 1603193

>>1602953
True. But at the same time I also don't see men eager do date women their age. Maybe it's just my environment, but men around my age (26-28) never date women their age, but younger. I know it sounds dumb but I feel to old for them, even though I'm their age. It looks like men prefer women who are at least 5-6 years younger than them. My male coworker is 32 and his gf is 25-26, and they started dating when she was 20. You might say that 6 year age difference is not that big, but why is it always the man who's older? If the woman was 6 years older than the guy everybody would think it's weird. So I'm afraid I have to aim at guys who are in their late 30s at least, because I feel like guys in their 20s won't be interested in me for real…

No. 1603198

>>1603177
do you all believe this

No. 1603201

>>1603192
is this fucking real?

No. 1603207

>>1603177
do you all believe this >>1603201

it is really from crazy days and nights.
it’s really a blind item. authorities intercepted them.

No. 1603209

>>1603207
stranger things have happened

No. 1603216

>>1603193
males are disgusting … ted kaczynski is no different I would never want to engage in politics w males

No. 1603229

>>1602961
fine I am sorry I said something to upset you. I haven’t researched ufos enough to really comment but I am sure I’d say the same thing I just said. i have seen some commentary from people more experienced which points that way. at this time idc to input beyond what I can say about what I believe regarding some phenomena typically explained as being of alien origin.

No. 1603435

starbucks created an olive oil coffee line to make people on ozempic shit themselves

No. 1603469

>>1603216
yeah I'm surprised he has such a strong following here. like I get that you don't need to agree with everyone 100% on everything but he hated women.

No. 1603484

>>1603469
you're telling me the unabomber was a bad person? that's crazy

No. 1603497

>>1603193
>feel like I’ve got to date 10+ older.
In case you’re not joking, please don’t actually start doing this anon. Have you actually been rejected by the guys you want? Sounds like you’re developing an unnecessary fear, like you’re at the mercy of imaginary picky men. Your coworker or similar people around are just some people, they don’t set the rules for everyone else. Forget making yourself worry about randoms and just go get the ones you like.

No. 1603498

I agree that UFOs could both be real while the government do psyops. I feel like most people consider aliens a no-brainer even if we can’t point them out. Do anons have more books or sources for evidence of alien stuff, that’s so exciting to get into. What I don’t get, is how people got to Area 51 levels of assurance that there was something to rescue. Is that group still going?

No. 1603504

>>1602852
Bring the proofs! please.

>>1602858
I think she was indeed talking about creation as in design, just very broadly to cover different mediums/industries. Birth isn’t generally seen as “cringe” for example. Honestly it’s crazy to downplay gestation when considering the biological details of it all. Men hype up their physical strengths even though they’re completely obsolete in 2023. I’m not arguing with you though, I get your gripes.

No. 1603507

>>1602852
I don't believe in ufos. It's a psy-op.

No. 1603529

>>1603193
From the sounds of it you've never even tried dating guys your own age. I know men suck but jumping to the conclusion you can't get a man your own age because you're afraid of getting rejected is pathetic in it's own right.

No. 1603540

>>1602961
>>1602969
>>1602980
aww nonnie I'm the other nona who saw a sky triangle, I'm sorry that one moid was being an arsehole about our experiences. My theory is that people who haven't seen anything "unexplained" get angry when others talk about seeing the unexplained for themselves because they feel cheated (where's MY alien??) and that, therefore, the witness is a cheatER who's just lying to them to feel big, kind of like how people love magic tricks but hate magicians. I think there's extra rage about it here since presumably most nonas want to see proof of the unexplained more than most people. For example, one time I was on a whale watching trip off the coast of Norway, but nobody had seen a whale so far, then one night I was alone on deck at 3am (it was daylight due to arctic summer) and I saw a whale breaching in the wake of the boat. Nobody believed me and they got so pissed off that I ended up denying I was the passenger who "said they saw a whale". You know, on a multiday whale watching tour, in a place where whales are known to live - seeing a whale would just be ridiculous! We know what we saw and nothing can change that.

(Edited to remove an extremely long description of what I saw that would've just pissed everyone off even more so never mind kek)

No. 1603570

>>1603498
yeah that's what I believe too. There is Dr. Roger Leir who extracted alien implants from people and has many books on the topic. His book on Varginha alien is worth it. I attached a video that goes into detail about it too.

No. 1603574

>>1603193
Most people are dating people their age, even back in the day. My grandpa is a year younger than my grandma. My great greandparents were the same age, and so were their parents.

No. 1603577

>>1603574
This. There's some moid fantasy that back in the day that all marriages were old men marrying teens, but the truth is there was a marriage season in life and everyone pretty much got married in the same young age range to people they grew up with in their town. If they didn't they were basically grown manchildren.

>>1603193
If a male won't date you bc of your age they will already not have you appear in their dating apps if you use them, plus they are self selecting themselves out. That's not your concern what men "go for". Only entertain those who show positive interest and your worry is done.

I've dated younger and same age just fine, men don't have the options they want to think they do as most regular college girls want to date college guys and not balding accountants. Realistically if you ego stroke him even a little about his dreams, personal value and ambitions its pretty easy to get a regular guy your age or younger to be in love with you. Don't forget this is the same population that whines about no compliments ever.

No. 1603612

>>1603469
He reminds me of my dad but with better ideas. My dad was more of a transhumanist type hoping science would discover immortality through stem cell research. Dad wasn’t a great person either. Not sure what it is with men of that age and writing manifestos…

No. 1603617

>>1603469
/tttt/ troons love him too because (IIRC) he had an appointment to see a sex change doctor but never went and then planned to kill the doctor. He talked about fantasies of being a woman, but even he had the common sense to know it's degenerate. The troons post a lot of "transitioning would've saved her" memes, although some do seem to actually believe that it would've saved him, kek.

No. 1603627

>>1603617
He probably would have 41%'ed if he did troon out.

No. 1603638

>>1603617
I swear people just keep making up history, never heard about this before
It keeps changing right before my eyes, suddenly something is gone from Wikipedia and something else takes its place, and everyone now knows Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania

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No. 1603647

>>1603643
Zero trust in digital archives, they can easily be changed or added retroactively

No. 1603652

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>>1603627
if the report is true he's not very suicidal. he would get upset and change his mind. he started to hang himself during the trial but stopped because he was worried about getting brain damage instead of dying. he also contemplated it after some brief relationship fell apart but decided to kill the woman instead but gave up on that too.
psych report https://www.karenfranklin.com/files/Kazynski-Johnson_Report-09.11.98.pdf
his manifesto if no one has ever read it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm
>>1603638
I also don't remember this ever being a thing, but I never paid a lot of attention to old Ted to be honest

No. 1603663

>>1603643
based of him to recognize he was just a coomer and not transition, that's more self awareness than 99.99% of moids are capable of.

No. 1603664

>>1603663
i responded to the wrong damn post

No. 1603682

>>1603540
i think that's really true, people hate it when others have experiences that are unique or not easily explained. it just makes some people triggered for the reasons you set out. i would still like to hear more about your sighting but tbh considering the reaction this subject gets on the conspiracy thread of all places i understand why you wouldn't want to share more.

>>1603504
>>1603498
i've already listed some books/resources but i will compile them here for future reference for any nonas who are curious. this is not an exhaustive list, just because something is listed doesn't mean i agree with everything that it says, etc. etc.
>in plain sight by ross coulthart
australian journalist systemically going through ufo and uap evidence from around the world, including recent evidence of knowledge of ufos within the us government. very reliably sourced and comprehensive.
>need to know by ross coulthart (podcast)
podcast by the same journalist and another guy who worked in the film industry and has experience being contacted by "men in black" type figures who want to put specific knowledge about aliens into the public consciousness, updated regularly with new info.
>ufos: generals, pilots, and government officials go on the record by leslie kean
nyt journalist who has worked on the ufo story for years interviewing pilots, generals, and government officials (obviously.. kek) who have had personal experiences with ufos, goes over different governments reactions to these and policy on disclosure
>sovereignty and the ufo by wendt and duvall
academic article discussing why governments deny ufos, does not resort to conspiracy, rather argues that governments simply don't understand them and can't control them so deny to protect their image as a sovereign state
>search for the unknown by matthew hayes
canadian perspective on ufo phenomena, written by a skeptic but still a good source of information and very well cited
>the day after rosswell by philip j corso
first hand account from military official who claims he worked with the government to use alien technology recovered at rosswell
>us nimitz footage
footage captured by fighter jets from the aircraft carrier the us nimitz, huge story because it was the first official ufo footage released by the us government. although the official report stated that it appeared to have advanced technology and be intelligently controlled, that they hadnt made it and that they did not believe any other nation made it, they frustratingly still mocked the et hypothesis. you can easily find the footage on youtube
>stanton t friedman
physicist who started the investigation into rosswell, probably one of the most important researchers of all time, many articles and books published and many lectures on youtube
>project blue book
initial us government research project that claimed to investigate ufos but really focused solely on disproving only, with more substantial cases ignored. interestingly final starts out by saying there was no proof for ufos found, but later admits that there was proof. the policy of denial w/out investigation frustrated one astronomer who worked for them, which led him to investigate independently and come to the conclusion ufos were a real phenomenon
>j allen hynek
another of the most important ufo researchers of all time, this is the astronomer from project blue book. this is the guy that came up with the "close encounters of the first/second/third type" typology for discussing ufo and et encounters. has written several books, they're all out of date now but still amazing information if you can get your hands on a copy
>the ufo phenomenon
documentary by journalist ross coulthart about ufos, really well made and convincing, i've embedded it below

okay this is it for now, there are some other topics but that would get more into abduction which i am less convinced of. hopefully this is enough for anyone who is curious to begin to look more into ufos.

No. 1603683

>>1603682
i cant believe i spelled roswell wrong so consistently KEK

No. 1603684

>>1603617
This meme has been posted a hundred thousand time, its just a joke. I made the same meme about Buffalo Bill from silence of the lambs in 2012, just fucking around.

No. 1603687

>>1603684
/tttt/ troons are notably unhinged. I've seen them seriously discuss this. Yes, a lot of it is just jokes, but some do believe it.

No. 1603690

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>>1601573
I've seen the triangle ship once out in the middle of nowhere. Me and my friend were on her roof in buttfuck America at night, and I was literally pointing at small objects in the sky (maybe satellites) and saying how maybe they're UFOs (mainly joking). My friend said she didn't believe in UFOs or aliens. I believe within 30 seconds, the triangle ship appeared out of nowhere, seemingly bending gravity with its speed and movement. It was gone within seconds, and my friend ran inside, terrified.

Idk if you believe the 4chan whistleblower >>1599383 but he mentions the orange lights indicate scouting for abductions. However, he claims to have never seen a triangle ship, only burger and cigar shaped.

No. 1603693

>>1603690
I saw a ufo several years ago, it was still hovering over one spot too close to the ground, so odd. I do think it was human though, there was a base nearby and we think it was military technology they flew around in the middle of the night. It was hard to see but it had reflective windows (?) with orange light. Kind of like a city office building at night. I still think it was human though.

No. 1603699

>>1603693
Yeah I'm inclined to believe triangle ones are human due to that shape being the most aerodynamic for us the high speed and weird movement can probably be explained by the government having technology we don't know about yet. Aliens have the round ships because they are powered by element 115.

No. 1603718

>>1603469

That’s the only one we heard about. He was probably discussing the intricacies of his views and politics w a lot of teenage girls who mail to him… creep.

No. 1603735

>>1603718
I would love to read some of the letters he exchanged with people. Just out of morbid curiosity. Are any of them posted online anywhere?

No. 1603737

>>1603684
Buffalo bill was trying to transition, in a way lol

No. 1603739

Has Peaches Geldof's death been discussed properly here since the subject first came two or three threads ago?

No. 1603744

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does everyone in this thread just casually forget that UFO stands for "unidentified flying object"?? it does not say that it is from a galaxy far, far away. when governments talk about UFOs, they can easily be talking about a flying object from another country that they cannot identify. UFOs dont have to be tied to space galaxy aliens, and usually they are not. especially when you live near an airbase or airport of some kind. they are always testing their new aircrafts.

one of my friends lives in rural WV and made some pictures of one of those stealth bomber planes flying over his house. it was some time ago, but those things look absolutely haunting, especially when they fly close to the ground. i am not trying to deny space alien UFOs do not exist, i just think we should be more skeptical. especially when it is some attention whore moid trying to earn money off of his big claims of having captured UFOs and aliens or whatever. i used to 100% foolproof believe in aliens and UFOs roaming around on this planet but the more research i did, the more i realized that 99.9% of it are hoaxes and lies, which is why skepticism is so important.

No. 1603753

>>1603737
If Buffalo Bill got her mones and ffs money none of that would have ever happened

No. 1603787

>>1603744
B2 bombers like picrel started flying in 1989. Just think about the technology they have today

No. 1603807

>>1603744
i don't think anyone here is denying that 95-99% of ufo sightings can be explained with mundane explanations. no one is saying that many ufo sightings are not misidentified planes or natural phenomenon. that doesn't change the fact that there's still 1-5% that can't be explained, appear intelligently controlled, and appear highly technologically advanced. when a ufo can't be explained better by any other theory and exhibits those traits, that's when the ET explanation becomes the most attractive remaining theory. it only takes one black sheep to prove that not all sheep are white.

No. 1603814

>>1603807
also, there's some evidence that the design of these stealth planes and fighter jets are based on reverse engineered alien tech. i'm not wholeheartedly convinced of that, but it is an explanation for why ufo sightings before such aircraft were invented match the design of those aircrafts. in other words, it could be the case that those crafts look like ufos because they're based off of ufo design, not because ufos are misidentified jets.

No. 1603819

You guys know that ayyylmaos are just demons right

No. 1603833

>>1603819
nonnie elaborate

No. 1603858

>>1603739
No, but I'm very interested in anything anons have to say about it.

No. 1603876

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>>1603833
ayyylmao is a tumblr/twitter/facebook meme picked up downstream of non-english-speaking paranormal websites. I think she's saying aliens are demons (feel free to correct me, original nona.)

No. 1603879

>>1603876
nonnie i’m crying, thank u for ur response (truly), but i get that aliens are ayylmaos, i just don’t get them being… demons? like creatures from hell goetia type of demons? i need details

No. 1603887

>>1603879
oh ok cool. maybe she'll come back and elaborate.
my take is that if angels are real then they're 10000% aliens, and it would follow that demons are aliens as well. aliens all the way down.

No. 1603892

>>1603887
We may be or become another planet's angel or another planet's devil. Or maybe dinosaurs are/were. Perhaps the ancient Cephaloid race are our angels from outer space. And we are eating them.

No. 1603905

>>1603744
ok I won't try to argue that unauthorised triangles exist anymore, only government triangles, but like, if you stood under one of these stealth jets as they hovered about 60m above you, would you feel anything? Like would the VTOL engines make a sound of any kind, emit any heat or light, maybe set trees directly below them on fire? What I saw was completely silent, motionless, and was almost touching the tops of some trees, and I was able to stand directly below it and not feel any air being blown around by the VTOLs or heat from them. And it had bright orange lights on it that ensured it could be seen clearly, which is an unusual choice for a top secret stealth jet. I've also seen a similar thing flying at night in a remote Welsh valley, which is an even stranger place to spy on seeing as there's pretty much just sheep and hikers there, but maybe the government needed to check if sheep could see the jet too. They didnt seem too bothered by it to be fair.

No. 1603908

>>1603652
I remember his visits to the gender clinic being spoken of in some documentaries I watched a long time ago. My memory recalls he was a frustrated virgin and thought if he was a woman he would at least have access to a female body since he never had a gf. I always assumed he went to prison a virgin.

No. 1603938

>>1603905
It's called a stealth jet for a reason

No. 1603956

>>1603905
Eerie.

No. 1604192

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more whistle blower testimony

quick run down

>Ayyys exist and we've confirmed their existence about 100 years ago

>ayys crash or land vehicles as "gifts" to various super powers every 5 years or so
>first retrieved crash was in Italy in 1933 during the Mussolini era, US transferred it into possession in 1945 after WW2. The Vatican knows about the UFO and Ayys
>We have a very expensive surveillance and retrieval program for said crafts (men in black)
>ayys and humans have had violent exchanges resulting in human deaths
>ayys have fucked around with nuclear weapons system of every superpower
>we have 12-15 craft in possession, some perfectly operational
>there has been a secret arms race without other super powers on trying to make use of the tech
>Whistleblower eludes "them" to possibly have interdimensional characteristics
>whistleblower vaguely eludes to human and non-human intelligence (NHI; yes theres now an official acronym for aliens) to have directly been in contact and have even had treaties/agreements

No. 1604270

>>1603938
What if I climbed up on top of it and jumped up and down on the roof, would I notice it then?

No. 1604418

>>1604192
Purely anecdotal but holy shit, my cousin who, long story short, got fucked up big time by his military service has said the phrase "non-human intelligence" to me multiple times and I always wrote it off as him being schizo. Damn, now I gotta ask him what he's heard about it.

No. 1604606

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>>1601573
I was just watching a video and there was a mention of something called the Aurora Aircraft, which was allegedly an extremely fast secret plane in a perfect triangular shape with one red light on top of the plane and according to some other reports two additional white lights and one orange one near the tail all making up a diamond shape, as well as distinct vibrations, and a black colour, reported to have been seen in the 1980s and 1990s. It's been spotted in America (e.g. one was from Southern California going to Nevada), and mostly in the UK including England (in places such as Manchester Airport), and Scotland (at Campbeltown Airport which hosted RAF, NATO and US marine aircraft). I don't think this is related to your comment as the reports include the plane making loud humming sounds or rumbling like a short earthquake in the sky from sonic booms which you can feel yourself, but I think it's interesting regardless as the more I looked into it, the more similarities I found. And as someone else mentioned it wouldn't make sense to have such a clearly unique and visible aircraft as a spyplane. However one of the reports from Aviation Week and Space Technology did say there were no engine sounds heard.There's a lot of weirdly specifically unique things about the aircraft such as the contrail shape, sonic booms that didn't match the size, weird sounds etc so it could also have an extraterrestrial origin.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060823172040/http://www.aemann.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/aircraft/black/aurora/aurora5.htm

No. 1605055

>>1604192
Do you have a link to read the rest of this?

No. 1605150

what do any other ufo/alien enjoyers think of what David Grusch is saying recently? he talks about some "ufo retrieval program" and i think it's weird that lines up with what that 4chan whistleblower thread back from may was saying. not saying i believe any of this, i want to believe but i don't trust these people lol

No. 1605190

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Ayy lmao

No. 1605224

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I hate to use a 4chan screenshot I saw from Twitter but holy fuck does this describes most of my problems with today's search engines. I swear to God they don't work and they bring irrelevant stuff I'm not even looking for political stuff most of the time.

No. 1605242

>>1605224
Just use yandex

No. 1605341

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>>1571083
Kind of meta-tinfoil but I saw picrel (article link: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/13/quarter-in-uk-believe-covid-was-a-hoax-poll-on-conspiracy-theories-finds) and thought of you nonas.

The last para in the article made me laugh: "Between a fifth and a quarter of people – 8 million to 10 million adults – said they would protest against the introduction of central bank digital currencies, a “deep state” of military, intelligence and government officials who try to secretly manipulate government policy, “15-minute cities” and against vaccines."

The article didn't mention deep state, central bank or anti-vax (rather than the theory that all of covid was a hoax) until that para and smoothly lumps them in with much less relatable theories like great replacement, 2005 (why so old?) terrorist attacks were faked by UK gov, and crisis actors. It's also conflating "protest" (any form of protest including silent sign holding is now illegal in UK) with "violent action", as if the theorists are future civil war fighters. Is American media also making a big push like this against "conspiracy theorists" as if they were a unified political bloc? Do you think conspiracy theorists (we?) are a unified bloc when compared to normies? Why is this happening right now? Also do you think there might ever be a war over a tinfoil?

No. 1605352

>>1605341
>Is American media also making a big push like this against "conspiracy theorists" as if they were a unified political bloc?
as a burger, absolutely yes.

>Do you think conspiracy theorists (we?) are a unified bloc when compared to normies?

fuck no. anyone joining any conspiracy theory-based group is an idiot because who knows who is really behind it. and just looking at this thread alone, we definitely don't agree on everything. people who aren't boomers know qanon was the most retarded thing ever. most people i am close to IRL believe in a couple conspiracy theories, there is overlap but not 100% overlap.

>Why is this happening right now?

govt hates any ideology that won't make them money. they only care about profit (no im not a commie), every ideology being pushed right now is about money, end of. example: we know here how transgenderism is extremely profitable for big pharma (beyond HRT, most trans identifying people are likely taking meds for other things as well) and the sadistic surgeons who will perform "bottom surgery" that suspiciously almost always needs multiple revisions.
so they push back on us big time and lump us in with whatever they can to make us look like an evil hivemind when we aren't. it's to prevent normies from ever engaging with us. they're thinking we're all bloodthirsty "alt right nazis" when most of us are not, and have absolutely no power at all and just want to be left alone, all we do is talk amongst ourselves about our thoughts and go about living normal lives, and some prepping just in case.

>Also do you think there might ever be a war over a tinfoil?

no idea.

No. 1605382

>>1605352
the fact that they
>>lump us in with whatever they can to make us look like an evil hivemind when we aren't
is counter productive imo, they risk pushing normies who are vaxx skeptics towards actually dangerous groups - surely they know that??
>>it's to prevent normies from ever engaging with us
that's what I find so strange, I don't understand why ideas themselves are so scary to them when even expressing the ideas (protest, making "fake news posts") are already illegal. You mentioned communism, the gov approach to suppressing tinfoils makes me think of how the US feared a war over communism so much that they started one. Alternatively they're earnestly saying that just having a "mean" belief (like, it's mean to doctors and nurses to be anti-vaxx because they worked so hard in COVID) is bad in itself and has to be stopped, I guess because it makes you a bad person? The tone of that article suggests normies would be shocked and upset if they knew 1 in 4 of their friends is anti-vaxx - would they really though? Normies tend not to care about anything ideological so idk why it'd bother them.

No. 1605430

>>1605224
I hate it too because theres literally no way to search for things anymore. I have to go through multiple search browsers on Firefox just to find things and even search operators often don't work.

No. 1605431

>>1605242
Isn't Yandex terrible for privacy? And please don't say something like "all search browsers are" because I still want to minimize it.

No. 1605434

>>1605150
I'm not a body language expert or anything but he has insanely unconvincing body language and facial tics while he's talking about everything. I just cannot believe a word he says.

No. 1605437

>>1605431
Yandex is safer and more secure than google or any other big browser except maybe privacy oriented browsers like Qwant or SearX. It also has an amazing image search feature and unlike Bing it doesn't give CP in the results.

No. 1605441

nobody talking about the subterranean wars yet? disappointed
(I will be back with sources give me like 10-12 hours of unbridled autism-fueled research)
All I know atm is the "fires" are actually a literal smokescreen. same with the chemtrails/weather mods atm they're trying to LEGIT "smokescreen" and hide what's in the skies/coming from below
sorry again this seems so schizo but it's real
will brb (insert the "you'll never take me alive glowies" meme here but they know I know they know I know)

No. 1605444

China secretly shilled Korea/Japan's mediatic and cultural influence in the west, in fact, i tend to see these two countries as tentacles of China, like an unified asiatic power. But I don't understand why China doesn't shill their own media like c-pop and stuff; kpop and anime are everywhere yet you don't hear much from china's contemporary culture

No. 1605450

>>1605444
I read that as "the testicles of china" and it weirdly made more sense
they call this phenomena "soft terrorism" I think, yes? Where are you seeing it the most nona? I try to avoid ads/consuming media I don't like but it's still so prevalent.
very interesting thought, also do you think it's a lack of chinese "influence" or do you think it's on purpose?

No. 1605460

>>1605430
>>1605431
Yandex is russian owned and data is stored in Russian servers, so privacy from the Russian gov is about zero, but privacy from other governments I guess would be a bit higher than Google etc. Just out of interest, what are you searching for that you can't find? Like other tinfoil sites, or more like old angelfire sites or something? I'm so bored with the internet nowadays, it's all the same monetized trash everywhere you look.

No. 1605498

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Does anyone remember the 'creepy google translate glitch' from like 2018 because I want to talk about it. I can't believe it was just brushed off as a simple machine learning mess-up or internet trolling. Way too elaborate for it to be internet trolls, and way too hyperspecific for it to be machine learning glitch. I remember taking it as a joke and trying it out back in 2018 and getting actually creeped out by the results lmao. Imo, picrel just confirms it was something of a human trafficking secret communication thing. There was another really creepy one like "cut the penis off, chop it into pieces, chop it into pieces" or something along the lines, along with doomsday prophecy biblical shit and about ICE mass murders. Shit's creepy.

No. 1605505

>>1605444
Interesting. The attitude from the Chinese media towards Japan/Korea soft power is a mix of annoyance and indifference, but i SEE how uplifted "asian image" in general.
I think that if China don't shill it's own "weeb adjacent" media it's because is kinda strange and a bit off putting even for themselves, and in general they don't want to see foreigners more than what is strictly necessary. If you think parasocial concent is bad here try chinese content, is a whole other world. At least kpop/anime have "normie friendly" section where people can get a taste of it without having to invest a lot of time, that doesn't happen with chinese media. t. former weeb.

No. 1605510

>>1603819
Yes they're. And isn't "hurr durr the dumb people of the past were wrong and thought that beings from other planets were demons durr" they were right about everything, they're chaos beings that feeds off humanity. If they're from "other planet" in the physical place or other dimension it's irrelevant, frankly I don't think they come from a physical place but again that doesnt matter.
Also the places like parks where people "get lost for years" are portals. I don't know if they're accidental or incidental, I lean towards the latter tbh.

No. 1605512

>>1605498
Can you tell me more of this? Why would they use Google translate to communicate?

No. 1605515

>>1605510
I've never seen "they're" used like this and it's blowing my mind rn kek but anyway do you think whatever's through the portal is bad? people are conscious inside them or is it like dying from their point of view? Not trying to suicide bait but if I saw a portal I would 100% jump through, expecting to either die or escape this world. When you hear of people who might have gone through a portal they always seem like people who would want to live, like they have kids, businesses, active in the community etc. Not isolated depressed tinfoil hatters who want to die/explore a portal. So maybe something forces you to go through. On the other hand, maybe that's why their families won't admit they're not missing and it was actually suicide, they just said they "disappeared in the forest" to protect the kids etc who cared about them

No. 1605576

Continuation of my post in the vent thread >>1604604, I believe that the major power holders of the world are aware of the means to alleviate most of the issues of climate change for the average citizens, but they simply refuse to do so. They seem to want us to suffer, to stay at home all day and blast our ACs and make the air hotter and they especially want us to fight and suffer cause they are sadistic and cruel.

No. 1605585

>>1605576
Dumbass it's the opposite. They know we have the means to stop climate change but that'd mean consuming significantly less than we do now and that doesn't fill the pockets of the rich nor does it upkeep the living standards of the average citizen. Going back to a sustainable farmers' lifestyle doesn't fund healthcare, education or even the upkeep of roads.

No. 1605603

>>1605510
it's extremely narrow minded to assume everything that's visiting us is whatever the heck you are suggesting they are. You are correct in that some visitors are extra-dimensional, and energy vampires (aka demons). But there's dozens and dozens of groups visiting us - most are from within our own universe. There's also just entities who are not "demons" who are visiting from other dimensions.

Some research has indicated the US government has successfully sketched out over 150-200 distinct entities who have made human contact in one way or another since they began documenting incidents of contact.

No. 1605632

>>1605585
I was talking about my country, where people are poor and many people are dying due to extreme heat, but I think people even in rich countries are dealing with bullshit, those who run the governments of the world have the means to off-set most of these issues that makes life unbearable.

No. 1605667

>>1605632
They really don’t, unless you mean exterminating 90% of the population. I guess they have the power to do that, and that would alleviate the problems we have with climate. Nothing short of that is going to help, and it’s not a conspiracy it’s just fact.

No. 1605676

>>1605441
Waiting patiently for your intel nonna

No. 1605721

>>1605667
see >>1605576 I'm not saying they can fix the damage caused by climate change(which will take centuries to recover) rather then can alleviate most of the issues that average people will be facing.

No. 1605810

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>>1603858
Ayrt I don't have any info on the case but I'd also like to discuss it with other who might have done any reasearch.
>>1605441
Weren't the fires in California distributed exactly like some specific existing railroad? I have a picture but it's lost in a sea of garbage.
>>1605498
Holy shit I remember! I have a few screencaps from late 2017, I wish I saved more, I can post them if you're interested. I have to blurr some stuff beforehand. I'm so glad I didn't crop it, it has de date on the lower right corner.

No. 1605821

>>1605810
You see slightly different things in Google translate based on the model of data they have about you, so it's unlikely that anyone's using it for communication. One of the aspects of your model is what typos you tend to make, and what acronyms you use. If the translator applied this data about your typos to both sides of a Google translate query, a random string in Mongolian that says "TBW" could be interpreted as "TWB" or The World Bank, if you're someone who Googles that a lot (like a tinfoiler might do). Google's semantic parsing is highly customised to you, especially if you use a Google smart device with your voice - in that case, Google is "hearing" what you typed in to the translator input in your own voice, with your accent (bear in mind this approach is janky at so that's obfuscating it even more) so that makes the result even less predictable, again making it bad for secret messages. The randomness makes more likely the results that are relevant to your interests like the world Bank, though.

No. 1605827

>>1605821
I never believed this was used as a secret medium for communication, I was just happy to find some of the screencaps because they are 6 years old and I still kept them around. What you're explaining sounds so interesting, you would have laughed at the bunch of retards (me included) posting our screencaps that day.

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>>1605512
Of course I can't be sure exactly why, but I suspect it has to do with google translate being easily accessible, so it's easier for traffickers to make connections? I will admit there's a small chance of it just being an elaborate internet prank with all this edgy biblical shit that it also spewed (about doomsday, second coming of Jesus, etc etc), but it could also be code words, or put there on purpose to throw people off, so that people do brush it off as a prank/mishap.
>>1605810
Yo, this is amazing! I'd love to see more of the screenshots you have because the pics I have are from a website discussing it.

Also, picrel I tried to do some stuff… is it suspicious or no? Personally, any punctuation that randomly appears is suspicious.

No. 1605886

>>1605846
Hate to be this anon but it adds punctuation if there's grammatically only one punctuation that there can be, eg here where some of the statements can only be questions, those are the ones with added ?s. I don't know any Yoruba but it's very likely that the random words you typed could be autocorrected to valid Yoruba, and whatever that statement is (which Google isn't showing you) is then translated to the output you see. This is also happening with the characters like £ and €, these can be "autocorrected" from the ASCII characters you see into whatever characters Yoruba uses, then translated back to ASCII for the output, which would randomise it even more. Google would then correct the English a second time to make it more readable for you. The translation is actually pretty inaccurate, especially for lesser spoken languages.

No. 1605928

>>1605498
>>1605810
Holy shit this is scary as hell. I don't understand what kind of glitch causes such strange translations? And when I looked it up, some people even had other people's email contents, and Facebook post links. I guess what this is supposed to mean is that these translations are taken from real online posts, emails, or books but the thing that scares me is how creepy some of them seem, like translations that allude to having ties to child trafficking rings.

No. 1605942

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Sometimes, when I was a kid, I had dreams about alien invasion/end of the world, but recently they became more realistic, frequent and giving me more terror than before. This night I had another dream, so realistic I thought I already woke up inside the dream and I thought it's real, but in fact I was still in a dream. Like thousands of ufos hanging in the sky above every major city for weeks and humans going crazy and turning on each other and causing riots, burning shit and killing each other and screaming about the end of times. I hate how powerless I am in those dreams, like I can choose what to do but I'm not aware I'm dreaming. Like I would wake up in the dream, thinking 'ah it was just a dream, thank god!' and then I would look outside my window and still see the fucking lights hanging in the sky and burning city and riots below them. Totally not aware I'm still in a dream. I finally woke up, having tachycardia and sweating like crazy. Bitch stop giving me those dreams. I know well that ayylmaos are just fucking demons trying to deceive people, make them turn against each other and against the true creator.
A few nights ago I had another dream: just a literal, disgusting ayylmao stading next to my bed and its ugly face switching between the grey and something totally demonic. I said something like 'I know what you are' and I punched this fucker in the face. It was shocked, I started laughing and I punched it again. Then I woke up, but not scared; I was calm and happy. I'm not afraid of those faggots and I know what they are. Personal attacks don't work because I actually know their nature and they can't deceive me, so it looks like they started terrorizing me with visions of people burning each other alive from fear and with ufos just casually hanging above it all, causing chaos by doing nothing. The truth is, other people are indeed more dangerous to you than ayylmaos/demons. Those fags can't do shit to you if you won't allow them in. But as for other people, you exist with them in this material realm and you have no control over their behavior.

No. 1606029

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I hope the ayylmaos look like this when they come visit us for real…without destroying our planet of course

No. 1606031

>>1606029
Need vegitas saggy nuts slapping against me at full saiyan speed

No. 1606040

>>1606029
Looking at the pic and thread title, I knew the what the content of the post would be like.

No. 1606140

Besides this thread, where else do you guys like to go to read up on tinfoils? I watched that vid posted upthread and now I’m thirsty for more schizocontent.

No. 1606223

>>1606031
I want to ride his super saiyan cock as he screams GALICK GUN, FIRE!!!!!!

No. 1606337

>>1606140
/x/ (though it's mostly gone to shit these days) and BitChute. With BitChute what I tend to do is look up a popular tinfoil, 9/11 say, then I just browse the tinfoil channels that are posting highly watched stuff to find new theories. I try doing independent research but search engines are fucking awful now. To the point where I can't find old conspiracy stuff that I know exists.

No. 1606363

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There's something off about this video. Its just 2 toddlers(I think their brother and sister) hugging, but the reactions are all weird comments about women and almost all of them seem to be coming from African accounts.

https://twitter.com/DAMIADENUGA/status/1664363875754553344

No. 1606370


No. 1606558

>>1606363
I understand that african men can be very misogynistic, but it's just an innocent video? Why are they thinking about a toddler initiating sex?

No. 1606566

>>1606363
Men will see a literal child and instantly think of sex, disgusting. They deserve to die, all of them. My tinfoil is that all (and I mean ALL) men have pedophilic tendencies.

No. 1606574

>>1606363
Men are rape-apes programmed to shift blame onto women no matter what. He sees his ex-wife and Stacy who rejected him in high school when looking at your toddler and he wants to punish the child for it. Retarded dog brains. Third world monkeys don’t have a sense of inappropriate remarks so they don’t hold back on saying what they’re actually thinking

No. 1606578

>>1605942
Girlboss
>>1606140
As the other anon said, also /x/, and very specific yt channels about Kubrick. I have yet to familiarise myself with less crowded imageboards like lainchan. I'd also like to lurk on /sci/ and /his/, the board that shall not be named used to have esporadic decent threads ages ago but I don't go there anymore. Kiwipedia is also nice, I'll post the gangstalkin article at the end of this post. And if you approach conspiracy theories/paranormal stuff from a sociocultural or historical point of view, there ar lots of papers and books out there for free in PDF.

https://gangstalkingworld.neocities.org/#Signs%20of%20gang%20stalking

No. 1606589

>>1606363
>almost all of them seem to be coming from African accounts.
Seems like that's because it was reposted by an African user that's a blue checkmark. Nothing surprising there. Disgusting scrotal comments as usual, though.

No. 1606602

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>>1605846
> I have are from a website discussing it.
May I ask what website is that? Here you have some more from that same day in 2017. I don't know what was the common belief people held in the thread threads discussing this. If I recall correctly there used to be the rumour that AI can bee inhabited by spirits or that chance = God. Also I mispelled attempts in my file's name.

No. 1606603

>>1606140
I've posted this in previous threads:
https://bibliotecapleyades.net/default.htm
It's an absolute treasure trove of conspiracy and a lot of it is from the 80s and 90s.

No. 1606621

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Global warming isn't a big deal imo but pollution on the hand…

No. 1606626

>>1606578
that gangstalking signs list is depressing, if you don't believe in gangstalking it's like a poem about the relentless irritation and emptiness of the modern world, or the suffering and paranoia of a day in the life of someone with OCD. Anyway TIL I'm being gangstalked

No. 1606627

>>1606621
Then how do you feel about rising sea levels? Genuinely asking.

No. 1606629

>>1606621
It literally used to snow in grandmother's village, she's seen in the snow every winter since she was a little girl for 60 years of her life, my father had seen that snow as well, around the 90-2000's it gradually stopped snowing and now its just cold wind, what do you make of that?

No. 1606660

>>1606621
How can you not realise they are completely linked?

No. 1606664

>>1606626
TIL I’m definitely not being gang stalked at least kek. Glowies prolly know I have too many weird friends/family who would absolutely believe me.

No. 1606669

>>1606578
I'm really freaked out by how many signs of gangstalking apply to me. I've wondered if I'm a target of it for a few years now, but just lately I'm getting more and more sure. I even have a theory for why I might've been targeted, it doesn't really make sense, but it lines up perfectly with things escalating in my life.

No. 1606692

>>1606627
nta, but its not really a problem for anyone who doesnt live on the coast at sea level. not that i think its fine, but we also wont get the the point where its that noticeable for like 80 years. what im more concerned about is the increase of catastrophic weather events from the overall global temperature rising.

No. 1606695

>>1606669
Nonnie that list describes anyone living in a city, its so vague. Of course trains pass when youre at a bridge, they pass when youre not there too. Vehicle color palettes were limited years ago. People talking to their kids and pets is normal. Apartment living is noisy, everyone wants to decorate their space with furniture and hang thinfs on the wall

No. 1606698

>>1606621
I agree. Climate change is natural as the earth goes through different solar cycles. This has always happened and probably always will. It's beyond our control so all we can do is adapt to it.

The real environmental concern is pollution from petrochemicals, radiation and other unnatural chemicals that are introduced into the environment by industrial activity.

No. 1606714

>>1606698
BPAs and all the other micropollutants that affect our hormones are what's causing so much cancer, not sunlight, but if they make everyone believe sunlight is more dangerous than known carcinogens that we eat and breathe in daily then they can sell fuckloads of suncream (which permanently pollutes the oceans and accelerates coral bleaching), keep everyone indoors as much as possible when it's hot (aircon $$$) and victim blame us for cancers that were actually caused by the government's decision to knowingly fill us with poison. Vitamin D deficiency causes depression, anxiety, muscle weakness, joint pain, brain fog and fatigue, these are things that the government and pharma want you to have because you trying and failing to fix them with products makes them richer. You're too weak to fight back with no vitamin D. Most people north of like Paris have mild vit d deficiency in winter since it's dark all the time, and mental health got a lot worse all year round since they started telling us the sun is evil and to avoid it 100% of the time, coincidence??

No. 1606721

>>1606695
I don't wanna debate gangstalking with someone who doesn't believe in it, I'm not confrontational about it like some are, and I'm not trying to change your mind; only explain my situation. I live in a small town, semi-rural. I think I'm mainly being monitored electronically, although I have encountered some suspicious people. At the moment my main concerns are my banking and ways of making money online encountering problems despite being 100% legal. There's always a new excuse for a block on one account or another, and in the end all I get from customer support is "oh yeah, that shouldn't have happened". I worked my way up from being a poorfag and bam! The system hits me with a bunch of obstacles to accessing my funds. I also think I'm being hit with voice to skull technology, have been for many years now. That was the first thing to tip me off that something was off in my life. I'm a diagnosed schizophrenic (yes I know this is where most people stop believing me altogether) but the medication NEVER works. I've been on so many and at best it just knocks me the fuck out. What I hear in my head is very different to what other people with schizophrenia tend to hear. Same with my hallucinations. I've been in support groups for supposed "people like me" and I'm still the black sheep, even fellow schizoids don't know what the fuck I'm on about. I see a lot of synchronicities in my life that seem to be "them" hinting at things about me. I'm in remission from cancer, but I think I'll get sick again. I've had a tumour removed twice, but there's always enough left to regrow. I think I could be targeted by some sort of weapon, I've heard about that happening to a lot of gangstalking victims who get really sick with headaches and stuff. There are other things that happen, like when I go camping but I don't want to ramble any more than what I have already. Idk, man. Shit's weird and I can't explain it. Coincidences and bad luck feels like a cop-out; but I'm also autistically drawn to tinfoils so maybe this is just some pattern recognition shit. I hope for my sake it is.

No. 1606727

>>1606714
I am so delighted that people are opening their eyes to the sunscreen industry scam

No. 1606742

>>1606727
Ayrt, you too?? I thought I was crazy, people have literally told me to stop talking about this cos nobody agrees with me kek is this tinfoil anywhere else too?

No. 1606745

>>1606721
aww nonnie it sounds like you've really been going through it recently, if it helps at all I think you sound like an interesting, fun person with good stuff going on in your life as well as bad. I find it hard to believe that someone would want to hurt you based on what you've said. Stay safe nona

No. 1606747

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>>1606721
Stay safe, nona

No. 1606753

>>1606721
You are extremely right in that no meds ever work. They don't treat the cause that is the stalking itself, it's just numbing you to the effects of it (but not diminishing them in any way - they're making them even worse). It's also quite obvious that if your country's psychiatric healthcare cooperates with the government heavily you are actively being zombified and they are purposely giving you the worst, uneffective, most harmful dosages and drugs as part of your general gangstalking.
I've been there, hospitalised 2 times, both with a "paranoid schizophrenia" diagnosis which is impossible to get rid of or hide - you are effectively branded, many of your life possibilities crossed out and you shunned by society which does not recognise gangstalking as something that even exists.

No. 1606754

>>1606727
>>1606714
do you guys think that people who work outside all the time shouldnt be using sun protection? or that they should be using physical protection like long sleeves and wide brimmed hats? because people who are out in the sun all day every day definitely get sun damaged skin (mostly on the arms, you can see sun spots on old people who love gardening or who worked in agriculture) and i read that cotton only blocks like 5% of uv. not trying to sound argumentative, im just wondering because i agree about chemical sunscreens being bad for the waterways. im also wondering how you feel about mineral sunscreens even though they suck. i guess it also depends on where you live because some places have a higher uv index.

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>>1606745
>>1606747
Thank you, nonas. You're both so kind. Hope you both have a great day/night. ♥

>>1606753
I've been in a psych hospital twice as well. I even got diagnosed with gender dysphoria during my second stay after venting about all the shit I get for being a butch lesbian. The shrinks will throw anything at you just to see what sticks; I hate being branded for life like this. Before I started earning enough money online to sustain myself and my wife, the only place that hired me was a substance abuse charity. As I'd been through drug abuse myself, I knew enough to help other people. Literally the only job where being branded a nutjob is an advantage, as most addicts feel safer talking to people who've been through the same shit. A surprising amount of people I talk to ended up on street drugs after psychiatric drugs failed them. Even the normie employees know something's up with big pharma. It's effectively teaching us all to treat our problems with chemicals rather than healing naturally by getting out in the sun, being active, talking to your loved ones, etc. Anyway, I hope you're well, nona. Don't let the bastards grind you down.

No. 1606802

>>1605441
Nonnie come back! the inner earth is my second tinfoil passion next to aliens (and they are connected). I am eager to read more.

No. 1606807

>>1604192
this is all stuff I came across in my own research over the years. So whistleblower or just an astute researcher? None of this was new info to me

No. 1606832

>>1606578
>These are the things that Freemasons hate most of all:
>celibacy
Kek I'm a volcel virgin. Missed me with that low vibration root chakra bullshit. Now I'm gonna side eye every bitch who mocks me for my lack of interest in sex even more than before…

No. 1606837

>>1606754
Just wanted to say that coolibar sells spf clothes and they rule. My autistic ass can’t get enough of their comfy fucking clothes that also mean I only have to wear a tiny bit of face sunscreen

No. 1606842

>>1606714
Vitamin d supplements are super cheap and they absolutely work I brought my levels up super quick taking 5000 IU a day for a couple months. Now I just take 1000 IU to maintain and a three months supply from the best quality supplement company is only $11.

The sun doesn’t cause cancer the way they make it seem like it does but it 100% massively accelerates aging even in super small doses. You need large doses of unprotected high UV index exposure for cancer to be a worry but aging always is. And not all sunscreen is bad for the reefs there are plenty of reef friendly sunscreens. COOLA is a particularly great brand imo. I’m obsessive about suncare because it’s one of those easily controllable factors in life. I reapply every 2 hours religiously.

No. 1606845

>>1606770
>A surprising amount of people I talk to ended up on street drugs after psychiatric drugs failed them.
Not surprising in the slightest since it's the same people that cover both psychiatry "legal" and illicit drug trafficking "illegal". The victims turn to even more addictive substances hoping they would restore the brain functions permanently lost due to psych meds (SSRIs, tricyclics and most of all antipsychotics - brain poison/chemical lobotomy). Of course they don't do anything, it's either placebo or lasts for less than a day and needs more and more dosages (and has terrible withdrawals).
>Anyway, I hope you're well, nona. Don't let the bastards grind you down.
I hope you're doing well too, can't say I'm good but it's certainly gotten better after some major life changes. Or at least it seems so.

No. 1606846

>>1606721
You’re psychically and/or spiritually weak. Upgrade your spiritual and psychic abilities and scare those motherfuckers off. They prey on the vulnerable, steel yourself and they’ll be sorry they ever targeted you

No. 1606852

>>1606578
This list makes me kinda schizo. I don't check literally all of them but most of them. Should I worry? The stuff about feeling like literally every relationship in my life and at work goes sour hits the most. On the other hand sometimes I receive kindness. It never feels normal, I always feel like I'm either extremely unlucky or extremely lucky. It's either people suddenly appearing in a shop that seemed to be almost empty before I came in or people being so nice they let me go in a queue before them when they see I have less stuff than them. Lots of spam calls. Never answered them, I would block them and there would be new ones. I blocked like a few numbers and they stopped for now. I also had lots of messeges about my leaked passwords
Most of the stuff from the electronic harrasment section also fits. But whenever something became very unpleasant or I had night terrors, I would start praying and that stuff was slowly going away and I started to feel peaceful.

Also another thing, I had problems with socialization as a kid, got diagnosed with depression and social phobia when I was 12 and they tried to put me on various kinds of drugs since then, including antipsychotics, for years. I had mandatory therapy and meds at home because that was the condition that school required so I could me homeschooled. I was homeschooled from 12 till 16. I never took the meds regularly because I never felt better after them, only worse, so I would lie about taking them, they would give me new ones and I would lie about taking them again. I still believe they managed to fuck me up, but I think I dodged even bigger brain damage by never taking any of them for longer than 3 weeks. Now as an adult I live a solitary life, focused mostly on work and hobbies. I'm sad that not having close friends or family or a partner can make me an easy prey to some people, not necessarily gangstalkers, but I can't change who I am

No. 1606862

>>1606852
Also my biological father was in special forces but left because he couldn't handle it mentally, then he was in the police, my grandfather from mom's side was also in the police, my stepfather's dad was in the military, and the article mentions that victims' families often have connections with the army or security services

No. 1606867

>>1606862
Maybe you have a “handler” observing you. Live your life like normal, post normal things online, be mundane. Let your handler cash their check until the program gets canned.

No. 1606873

>>1606629
there's also been ice ages. when life began the planet was extremely hot. the earth's climate wasn't ever, and isn't ever going to be, at a set point lol. the real problem with the planet is the effects of industrialization.

No. 1606894

>>1606873
Was gonna say, it fucking snowed this winter in LA, my dad told me the hilltops were covered in it.

No. 1606898

before i was ever sexually active, i took prozac for maybe a month (i was 17) before i just stopped taking it because i couldn't fucking sleep. i also took accutane when i was 18 for about 9 months. actually helped my acne a ton and didn't have side effects.
well once i became sexually active it was just like, things aren't clicking. to be fair i'd say i've been sexually dysfunctional since puberty. i have a horrible body image (genuinely feel obese and think i look obese at 120lbs) since i was a kid and never understood my anatomy, have never orgasmed.
my question is, would being on prozac for such a short amount of time and accutane for almost a year do this to me or make things worse? i've searched about this in the past and have seen a lot of people say ssris and accutane can totally ruin someone's libido.

No. 1606900

>>1606721
Use your money to go to an actual doctor specialized in schizophrenia. Despite of what you might read here, meds do work coupled with intensive therapy and lifestyle changes and the people telling you bogus about meds not working or your schizophrenic beliefs being real don't have your wellbeing on mind. I've seen way too many schizophrenics on the internet (and in real life, I have schizophrenics in my family) ruin their lives because they listen to people spouting pseudo science and they got in the deep end because they never took care of their condition, only listened to internet know-it-alls and their own schizophrenic mind ramblings.

No. 1606934

>>1606898
I took Prozac for a few months and it didn’t do anything long lasting to me so anecdotal but I don’t think it would have done a lot for you in one month. Accutane I don’t know.

No. 1606941

>>1606898
Prozac probably not but accutane totally. It could cause lifelong issues with vaginal dryness for example and inability to self lubricate

No. 1606945

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/surveillance/
I've posted a link to this site in these threads before. The writer is a gun owning Trump supporter who is obviously heavily conservative but the site provides some of the best documentation of gang stalking that I have ever come across. He also explains how to spot gang stalkers and how to deal with them.

No. 1606961

>>1606941
>could cause lifelong issues with vaginal dryness for example and inability to self lubricate
is that the only thing women are saying happens to them? bc for me it's just not being able to climax or really "get into the mood"

No. 1606969

>>1606900
Big pharma shill in the tinfoil thread? You might be lost.
>>1606945
Thank you for sharing this.

No. 1606987

>>1606969
>Big pharma shill in the tinfoil thread? You might be lost.
I've noticed an increase in shills lately. They seem to jump on anyone that posts anything counter to the NWO/great reset agenda.

No. 1606993

>>1606987
i love when COVID vax shills pop up in here. like what the fuck were they expecting, a tinfoil thread that somehow actually agrees with the mainstream opinions of COVID and the rushed, shitty vaccine that did not do the fucking job of a vaccine?????

No. 1607058

>>1606721
I am a targeted individual too but dc to talk much about it. I am definitely jealous of no I ones fake excitement in their life. but am still poor. how did you escape that and how do you make money online if you don’t mind answering.

No. 1607072

>>1606867
There are people online who do that sort of thing for fun, there could be a plausible chance that anon is being toyed with and it's causing them to experience more delusions. I wouldn't necessarily call them programs, but there are communities on the dark web where they get off on pushing schizos.

No. 1607095

I have been saying this since forever, that the whole prestigious university thing is a huge fucking scam. It's like having a royal family, people are who "important" because hundreds of years ago they told people they were and got rid of anyone who opposed them. Except the way higher education is run, they just choose to let very few people in so it's "exclusive" like a designer handbag, many of those getting in because someone in their family got in or someone in the staff knows them or they have some bragging achievement. And it's all just a scam for money. Money gives you power, enough power to say "Hey we are the best in the world" and you give some money and other people say "Yeah believe this guy! They ARE the best!" The level you receive is not better, it just has the fancy name.

And some of you are probably saying "Yeah we know that already. It's about paying for the name and the connections to those rich and powerful people." But the problem is that society still runs off of this. People will still gawk at you if you have a degree from a fancy name university. At the end of the day it says that you are rich, and money is all that matters. No one cares how educated or intelligent you are, how capable you are, nobody cares at all. But the elites don't even hide it and everyone below still scurry like ants trying to beat each other to the "top" which they never actually reach because they can't because the system is set up this way. There is no prestige to a top university.

No. 1607097

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>>1607095
"16 Ivy League and elite universities sued for alleged financial aid conspiracy
A class action suit accuses Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Penn, Rice, Yale and others of inflating their prices for financial aid recipients"

From last year

No. 1607104

>>1606873
the ice ages werent caused by smog and shit though

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No. 1607122

>>1607104
idk i just love how elites and their corpos cause ecological problems than blame it on me, an everyday person, because i let the water run while i brush my teeth

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No. 1607163

>>1606987
Fine, if that anon commits suicide of die of starvation because they believe someone is poisoning their food (I know someone who died like that because of their schizophrenia), consider yourself responsible for it.

No. 1607167

>>1607163
or die*

Also question for people who believe they're gangstalked: why do you think you are special?

No. 1607175

>>1607167
It's not about being special but I don't really want to talk to a literal paid shill.

No. 1607182

>>1607175
I'm being paid by your handler to make your day worse, schizo-chan. It seems to be working.

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No. 1607268

>>1607122
oh i definitely think the narrative of personal responsibility is total bs, but this isnt some natural cycle. industrialization and greed has ruined our planet and it eats away at me that we can never go back because some greedy fucks just want more money and power than the human mind can even comprehend.

No. 1607307

>>1606802
Oh so that’s what she meant by ‘subterranean wars’, I thought she was talking about secret conflicts between countries that are not being reported internationally. Also second or third on wanting to hear about wtf is going on inside the hollow earth which I unironically believe exists and the theory is more feasible than living on a flat earth

No. 1607350

>>1607225
fuck i was put on so many antibiotics before accutane too (of course they never helped) even though my skin is clear and relatively scarless my bones are fucking green???

No. 1607352

>>1607350
samefag but thinking about that, that is fucking cool. idc.

No. 1607373

>>1607307
Any sources for introduction to hollow earth ??

No. 1607385

>>1606873
Ice ages don't end in a couple of years though.

No. 1607473

>>1607385
yet people are acting like the avg temp is rising by ten degrees every year

No. 1607527

>>1606754
To be clear, yes adding more sun to a painful sunburn is obviously bad and you shouldn't do it, also people who are outside all day should be wearing a hat and a shirt like they did throughout history, but that should be enough. your tan will protect your extremities because the skin there is less prone to damage. Having some spots on your arm at age 60 won't ruin your life, actually it's the transparent skin + armpit wrinkles + spider veins that will make you look ugly when you're old if you're very pale. But there's more to life than being ugly or not ugly, especially in old age.
>>1606842
Vit d supplements only work if you eat a great diet as well and have no digestive illnesses, and digestive illnesses often contribute to a deficiency in the first place. Also that amount will do nothing for a deficiency, if you're actually deficient - get a blood test before doing this but - the prescription is 50,000iu per week for 6 months for a deficient person, 4000pd is a maintenance dose after that, 1000iu is just a waste of money. Additionally, only animal derived vit d is effective but the vegan ones are being shilled everywhere.
>>Every 2 hours
Girl what? Are you a professional surfer or is this when you're sat indoors? I don't see anything wrong with aging, we're aging every day. I'm 31 and am still getting carded for alcohol, I don't have wrinkles, despite literally never putting sunscreen on my face (I'm prone to eczema and I don't put anything on my face except moisturiser since I won't risk an allergic reaction). I drink more water in the sun and wear a big hat, this is attainable for everyone. I do have freckles which apparently are hideous sun damage, but I like them and Ive had them since I was 5, so why should I be ashamed of them?

I'll admit, I'm a doomer, and I believe that all of us this generation and younger gens will die of cardiovascular disease, heat or cancer due to pollution or suicide. With that mindset, fucked if I'm going to PAY for the cancer that kills me, the sun is free and it makes me feel good. If I lived in a very hot country, I'd do what the local women do, which is often to cover up and wear a veil. It sounds like you know a lot about the sun, and those clothes are a great idea, but please research what the chemicals in sunscreen do to your body. Mineral sunscreens are great but contain a lot of potential allergens, and any allergen has a chance of giving you a new allergy - same reason wearing makeup is risky.

No. 1607548

>>1607473
But it has gotten significantly hotter though, I have lived in a desert province a good chunk of my life, I know what heat is and I know that its gotten hotter.

No. 1607553

>>1607548
maby youve just gotten fatter

No. 1607561

>>1571083
Climate change is not global warming. Global warming caused by greenhouse gases etc is a cause of climate change. The change you see might actually be freak weather like snow in LA, rain all summer etc. Climate and weather aren't the same, freaky weather is an indicator that change is happening, but the change itself isn't noticeable without studying big datasets. It may feel a lot hotter where that nona is because there's less wind, less cloud cover or a change in humidity - these small weather changes are more likely to be caused by El Niño which has just started than climate change. The problem is that climate change means that ecosystems are already weakened and on the edge of coping, the El Niño now will have more catastrophic effects than it would've done 100 years ago. In the UK we currently have "extreme" heat (32C), obviously that's nothing for Dubai or LA, but in the UK this causes torrential rain and flash flooding which has & will continue to ruin lives. Our lakes and rivers are drying up & the water is getting dumped on our towns and cities in downpours, which fucks up the plumbing, so we haven't had clean water coming out of our taps here for 2 days. I live on a hill but the rain is so intense it still floods the lower floor of the house, people at the bottom of the hill lost their cars. Climate change can be seen whenever you observe buildings that aren't fit for their environment, or infrastructure failing to cope, like train tracks or roads melting. Apologies for venting, I look at this stuff for work and it horrifies me how people are being misled by the media etc about what climate change actually is. It's not weather, it's a pattern of catastrophic events involving weather.

No. 1607562

>>1606842
The sun doesn't accelerate aging, it accelerates sun damage. You're still 'aging' by being alive every day, it's how this whole this thing works. Your lifespan is the same sun or no sun, just call it for what it is - you're scared of looking old because you think old people are ugly. You want to 'age gracefully' because an old woman looking like an old woman isn't graceful for some reason.

No. 1607563

>>1607562
Samefagging because I forgot to add, you're so brainwashed by corporate marketing that you couldn't help but shill a particular sunscreen brand in your comment. The vocabulary you use sounds like it came from some sunscreen sales pitch by a 'derm' on tiktok or reddit that you just parroted word for word.

No. 1607569

>>1607562
UV rays definitely accelerate aging. They're literally radiation rays. With that said, I don't think sunscreen protects you 100% from UV rays. Actual physical protection like wearing a hat or an umbrella also helps but also it's not 100%. Overall there is no way to avoid UV rays but sitting on the sun with 0 protection is a surefire way to get your skin look like fried chicken skin.

No. 1607581

>>1607569
Wish I could post my face to reassure you nona kek, this is just not true. By fried chicken I assume you mean the texture & colour - the colour is natural, and some people are born with skin that colour so I hope you don't see the colour itself as ugly. For most of history, white people were this colour unless they lived in a convent or were super rich, they would've looked like aliens. The texture is caused by dehydration, applying a generic, medical moisturiser like Xeroderm before and after sun exposure prevents this (the skin's barrier absorbs a lot of radiation if it's healthy), as does drinking about 750ml water every hour or two if you're feeling the heat. Radiation is everywhere, it's not just light but also heat, EM fields from electronics, bananas are radioactive too ffs. Humans cope just fine with radiation unless it's from a "man made" source. It's not ok to fear aging so much that it impacts your day to day life while you're still young. also I genuinely believe none of us will get to be old, the world is ending, why waste time worrying about how others feels about your skin??

No. 1607584

>>1607581
Samefagging to history sperg some more, there's evidence that rickets (extreme vitamin D deficiency that causes your leg bones to get so soft that you can't walk) was used as a tool by slavers in Scotland to prevent escapes. In the Orkney Islands, where the sun barely shines, slaves were manacled inside dark rooms so they would get as little vitamin D as possible. The osteomalacia (adult rickets) they'd soon develop made them too weak to escape, to the point that later the manacles would be removed, knowing the slave wouldnt be able to leave. They passed work into the slaves' dark rooms, like bread to knead, and it'd come back out kneaded, etc. They would eat the bread because they knew the slaves wouldn't think to spit in the food or put needles in it since their will was so broken by rickets. If it happened in the past, it's still happening now, governments are more than aware of this since it's still observable in places where people are starving like Yemen.

No. 1607596

>>1607581
of course you won't show any sign of aging, you're probably under 30. once you're in your 40s you will regret exposing your bare skin to UV rays. also by chicken skin I mean texture, not color.

No. 1607597

>>1607596
I'm the ayrt who's 31 & still gets carded. Imo heavy makeup is a bigger cause of aging as the skin can't breathe, since I quit wearing it a few years ago my skin looks "younger". When I'm in my 40s I won't regret my happy memories of relaxing outside, and by then the kids I'll (hopefully) have had will be why I look tired as fuck kek

No. 1607600

>>1607584
You can get vitamin D without exposing yourself to UV rays. I'm not going to tell you how to live your life but if you can't wear a hat or a sunscreen don't cry once you're 45 and your skin looks 60. I would know how white people who tan too much age because most older women I know from my mother's and aunt's social circles tanned a lot in their youth and you can tell when someone didn't go tanning in their youth. It was literally something I talked about one time I went to one of their teas and the ones who tanned were high on copium like you but you could tell they looked much worse.

No. 1607603

>>1607597
31 is still young but once you reach your 40s you will see the results of it. Don't tell you haven't been warned.

No. 1607605

>>1607600
Nona it's still the ayrt, I do wear a hat. When I'm old I promise you i won't be going to any sad sounding high teas to complain about other women's skin, wtf kek

No. 1607606

>>1607603
And you'll see the results of sitting inside day in, day out, never breaking a sweat when you do go outside in case your sunscreen falls off. Yeesh

No. 1607608

>>1607597
>heavy makeup is a bigger cause of aging as the skin can't breathe
that's true but makeup can also protect your skin if you live in a highly polluted area but what damages your skin when wearing makeup is not properly removing it from your skin afterwards. don't move the goalpost.
>happy memories of relaxing outside
yes, you can do that while wearing a hat and a layer of sunscreen.
>>1607605
it was just a topic that was brought up in one of the many conversations and I didn't say anything to their faces because it's useless to tell them anymore, sorry you can't communicate with women of all ages about anything.
>>1607606
>And you'll see the results of sitting inside day in, day out
nice assumptions, are you butthurt because I told you will age like shit if you don't wear sunscreen? I thought you didn't care kek

No. 1607614

>>1607608
No tbh I'm sad to see how ingrained this fear is in young women. I choose not to fear aging and live accordingly. You can do whatever you like, but you can't both go outside and avoid UV, which is why I assumed you're usually inside. I am 100% going to "age like shit", so will you, one day we'll both be rotting corpses and literally turn into soil kek but by shit you actually mean "something moids don't get horny for", don't you

No. 1607617

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We have a whole board, /g/, to infight about skicare, and you people have to do it on the tinfoil thread. In this thread we only infight about what platonic solid is best it's the octahedron.

No. 1607620

>>1607617
Ayrt, kek agreed, sorry nonas. To contribute, what about the gömböc?

No. 1607650

>>1606898
ive been on both those meds and my sex drive has remained the same. yes accutane makes you pretty dry but lube fixes that issue immediately (also, no real connection between ability to have wet vag and ability to have orgasm)

its pretty common for women to have these issues. you really gotta experiment with your body and what actually turns you on, try out different toys, etc. ive heard good things about using hormonal creams as well. my personal advice would be a giant Hitachi wand. start on the lowest vibration and just kind of gently thrust it against the clit in a rhythmic way.

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Unironically starting to believe this.

No. 1607658

>>1607620
I just googled it, it looks cursed kek
>>1606898
I took another drug with isotretinoin for 9 months too, I was 21. It cured my acne completely but during those months I had severe dryness of the lips, the inside of the nose and the face in general (chin and forhead, the pores of my nose looked stunningly closed), you know, the usual side effects. I also recall a slight change down there, but nothing that prevented me from having sex with my then boyfriend (I've never had a problem in that sense, quite the contrary). The psychological issues that you're listing (bad body image, estrangement with your own genitals) seem to be the cause. You don't need a crazy libido to enjoy yourslef. I hate to blogpost about this here but I am a straight woman that has realised that the idea of conventional intimacy with someone else isn't for me (just had that one past relationship that helped me confirm this), but I still enjoy simple masturbation very much every now and then. What I'm trying to say is that's not normal that you can't orgasm in any way. I'd suggest you stop having sex and try to get in touch with yourself, literally, because a scrote can't help you with that.

Now, isotretinoin is a crazy drug and maybe we could adress it itt, cause after quitting it some years ago I'm still scared that the teratogen effects will never leave my reproductive system. They say a month is enough for the drug to leave your system completely BUT, when I had to sign a paper so my doctor could prescribe it, there was also the mention of a more radical treatment with this drug (I guess a higher dose) that demanded a fucking 3 year hiatus between the last dose and a pregnancy. Adding this to the risk of suicidal thoughts, there's no doubt there's something dark about this drug.

No. 1607666

>>1607658
Isotretinoin is just a controlled overdose of vitamin a.

No. 1607680

>>1606602
Ofc, it's this website. https://mashable.com/article/google-translate-glitch-ominous-religious-prophecies
The 'prophecy' translations freaked me out. Like, Aftonbladet is a Swedish daily newspaper. How tf does prophecy translate into that? And the borrowed time stuff? Jesus.
I've heard the theory that AI can be 'posessed' by ghosts or whatnot which causes them to act like this. Seems very, very far-fetched, but I can still consider it a possibility. Have we discovered God's language? Lmaooo. This reminds me of the concept of God being a virus that defies laws of physics in Echopraxia, kind of like how if God really is in these machines, he's making them malfunction.

No. 1607681

>>1606602
Also, idk why but these last two translations are kind of cute lol. Weirdly seems more motivational than scary

No. 1608117

>>1606846
True. I used to be meditating for an hour a day and these few months were bliss. My anger was controllable, my mood was improved, I had great focus, I was able to tune out my physical pain and when the V2K/psychosis would start I could simply say "no, I will not pay attention". My last round of chemo knocked the shit outta me though, and nearly all my good habits took a hit. Aside from getting back into meditating, what else would you recommend?

>>1606900
When I finally afforded private healthcare, I spoke about seeking therapy. The first shrink I saw was hung up on my dysphoria diagnosis and her only solution for my paranoia and hallucinations was for me to keep taking the pills that have me asleep by midday, so I shitcanned her. I've since requested a therapist who will only speak to me about my paranoid schizophrenia, and I'm currently on a waiting list for a guy who's apparently very good with schizos. I know you've been called a shill for this reply and you and I probably have very different views, but I genuinely appreciate your input none-the-less. I am trying to cover all my bases, in my more lucid moments like now I'm well aware that I could just be tripping bear balls.

No. 1608298

>>1607548
It seems to vary by place. Where I live it was much hotter in the mid 2000s when temperatures would be 30-40C in the summer and now summer temperatures are around 20-25C. Winter also seems to be more extreme and it lasts up until April. There was still ground frost at night in May.

No. 1608325

>>1607614
its not just aging like shit though, in places like california and australia the chance of getting skin cancer is much higher, as someone who lives in a northen state with a lower uv index i only wear sunscreen during the summer when im working outside and that works for me, but in some places sun protection is an absolute must especially if youre an outdoorsy person. personally im not really concerned about looking old one day i think it will be freeing, i am concerned about skin cancer though, which is why when i do wear sunscreen i make sure to actually put it everywhere and not just on my face, especially the ears ever since my mom told me about how not uncommon it is for people to lose their ears to skin cancer (6-10% of skin cancers are on the ear).
theres also the fact that theres now a huge hole in the earths magnetic field, so there will probably be measurable negative effects on the ozone layer soon which blocks a lot of uv so sun protection will start to become more important if the magnetic field keeps deteriorating. thats mostly a concern for people in africa and south america where the hole is, but apparently this funny business why the magnetic field could mean its preparing to flip which could mean a worldwide emp effect, and that would be a much bigger problem. hopefully (and probably) we wont be alive to see that though, because we'd all fucking die from cosmic rays.

>>1608298
i read that climate change will make the southern hemisphere hotter and dryer but with more frequent and intense monsoons and hurricanes, and the northern hemisphere wetter and windier because its pushing the jetstream north.

No. 1608381

>>1607373
YouTube if the hollow earth videos are still there but beware, there’s people claiming to come from there, are ‘spiritual beings’ and are on that woo-woo shit

No. 1608624

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What the fuck, WHAT THE FUCK

No. 1608759

>>1608624
Apparently they're still alive, a Twitter user just made it up

No. 1608784

>>1608325
gb2 the /g/ skincare thread with all the other snail secretion using retards, fuck outta here shill

No. 1608792

>>1608784
enjoy your skin cancer retard

No. 1608795

>>1608792
All you shills ever do is fearmonger to scare people into submission
I'll never be afraid of the Sun, crawl into your hole covered in snail excretions, I won't follow you there

No. 1608814

>>1608784
dont think talk of the earths magnetic field belongs in a skincare thread but whatever schizoid.

No. 1608843

>>1607680
>This reminds me of the concept of God being a virus that defies laws of physics in Echopraxia, kind of like how if God really is in these machines, he's making them malfunction.
Nice horrors beyond my comprehension.
>>1608325
>i read that climate change will make the southern hemisphere hotter and dryer but with more frequent and intense monsoons and hurricanes, and the northern hemisphere wetter and windier because its pushing the jetstream north.
That's kinda cool, but still bad lol I hope the flip of the magnetic field doesn't kill us all but only makes the ultra rich lose a shit ton of money somehow.

No. 1608852

>>1606898
Could be that for most women, that's just how things are. I was never on meds and I never understood sex as a normal thing, I had plenty of it because I was naive and brainwashed by society but never "clicked" for me either.

No. 1608858

>>1596955
Speaking of, there were even "worse" figures than Hitler throughout history, they just tend to be praised or glossed over depending on what side historically sides with who.

No. 1608859

>>1608852
how to be fucking normal? or have normal sex life that is fulfilling? i want to have that. everyone says to masturbate but i don't want to, i'm squeamish and it's not for me. am i doomed

No. 1608862

>>1571754
And Hasan worked for TYT, which spreads Western colonial propaganda. Interesting.
Not shocking.
What about Pewds?

No. 1608864

>>1608859
You want a normal sex life but you don't want to masturbate? Why? Do you think that women masturbating is gross or pathetic? No offence but I think you need to mature a little bit, you will never achieve anything if you find your own body disgusting. It's so fucking hilarious and tragic that the pornographic industry is HUGE while the average young woman is afraid to touch herself because of self-loathing yet still she has the desire to get involved with a male that doesn't see her as nothing more than a fuckable object. It's like when boys brag about masturbating and watching porn since the 6th grade and in high school they still torment female classmate asking them directly if they touch themselves, the double standards are crazy. They really have us at their knees, don't they?

No. 1608879

>>1608864
ive tried it and just dont like it. i am also anti porn and hate the double standards but im not gonna do something im not personally comfortable with to "stick it" to anyone…

No. 1608894

>>1608879
Nta but you think that women masturbate to "stick it"? You really can't imagine a woman not wanting to be jackhammered by a rotten dick and choosing to please herself instead? I get not feeling like masturbating but it's not something women do to "stick it".
You probably have a shitty sex experience because you have a terrible body image, your partners suck or you're just not feeling PIV. Though if masturbation makes you squeamish then you probably feel grossed out by yourself, so that will make it harder for you to enjoy anything sexual.

No. 1608897

>>1608879
you don't need porn to masturbate. heck, you don't even need to fantasize about sex to masturbate. sometimes I just get off in a minute because I need the good chemicals to make my brain decompress.

No. 1608900

>>1608894
the tone of your previous post to me came off like you're trying to psych me up really hard by stating all this negative stuff about porn and moids that i already agree with, to do something i don't want to do. it just came off that way, saying all of that doesnt really open me up to the idea of doing it

No. 1608903

i already regret opening up, anywhere people like me get bullied for not having sex or not masturbating… even in anti porn spaces you get laughed at for not masturbating. i just dont like it. sorry id rather make it a shared experience with someone i guess. ive tried to get off by myself and its super boring. not everyone has to enjoy what you do, and i dont care if you do nor do i judge for it, its just not for me

No. 1608909

>>1608900
That was my only post to you, I'm not that anon. You sound like a newfag.
No one is bulliying you for not having sex you schizo. Don't have sex if you don't like it, we're telling you that some women are just like that, but you're the one who absolutely wants to have sex and feel good. Sex doesn't feel good to everyone, that's the thing. It may be your body image, it may be your partner not getting you off (or do you expect sex to feel good with just penetration like in porn?). Don't masturbate if you don't want to, but don't try to twist it and say that masturbation is a shameful/gross/porny thing or a way for women to be contrarian.

No. 1608910

>>1608864
Nta but this entire reply is so weird? She just said 'it's not for me', how come even that somehow led to anons psychoanalysing her out of nowhere and making assumptions like 'do you think that women masturbating is gross or pathetic'? If someone doesn't want to do something, then let her be. Yeah, that anon did say that she has body image issues, but I doubt sperging over her not masturbating is going to fix them.

No. 1608919

>>1608909
i'm not new, i've been here for five years.
>It may be your body image
it probably is.
>do you expect sex to feel good with just penetration like in porn?
no where did you get that from? i don't even watch porn, i think it's disgusting.
>don't try to twist it and say that masturbation is a shameful/gross/porny thing
where did i say that???? i literally dont care if other women do

>>1608910
thank you. i'm sick of opening up and getting spit on for saying how i feel and what i struggle with. especially by other women. i don't think my vagina is gross and never had a problem with how it looks even, i can only touch it in the shower to clean it. and i honestly don't want to masturbate, i just want a normal sex life but it will likely never happen. fwiw i am not a virgin, i have had good sexual experiences but most have been bad. it just hurts how sometimes i feel like everyone's got it figured out and i don't. this is a very complicated problem for me but i don't want to get into it too much. i also got meme'd into bdsm and basically letting myself be abused by several men when i was a virgin and it was just a few months but the damage has been done. it has made my self esteem worse. i am a broken woman. i dont think sex is evil but i was treated in an evil manner so its hard to separate the two i think? it feels bad and wrong that i want to have sex but im 24. im afraid of seeing a therapist since so many seem to be sex positive dipshits and will likely invalidate my feelings at every turn instead of actually help me mentally work through my feelings and trauma, if i can even call it that because they were consensual experiences but i really regret them at it happened years ago. maybe the other anon will read this and understand better that this is complex and i dont just think vaginas are icky or something. i cant relax during sex and most of the time try to not think about sex and think im perverted for it. my bf hates bdsm and porn too and also just wants to have normal sex. but we have never figured out how to have a regular sex life because i am so insecure about how i look even though he says all the "right" things to try to help me (he also says it might help if i saw a therapist), i think he is too nice to me.
i just dont trust anyone. i was repeatedly humiliated for months by other men and its just really difficult to trust anyone, i dont want to look degraded in a sexual way.
sorry for the sperging but i just dont know what to do. ill be sexually dysfunctional for life and it sucks being told to masturbate when i have a loving boyfriend who literally does the stuff in the bedroom girls on here say guys should be doing. i have had breakdowns during sex where we stopped and we both try to talk about it sometimes but we basically are both uncomfortable with sex at this point and we agreed to just take a break for a while. no he doesn't pressure me ever in fact i used to pressure him.

No. 1608924

>>1608919
Cool blogpost, what does any of that have to do with tinfoil

No. 1608925

>>1608924
crying out into the void literally anywhere i can to feel less alone. most posts ive made about this get basically ignored.

No. 1608931

>>1608925
I think there's a thread in /2X/ for you and this type of situation. Look through the catalog ig

No. 1608933

>>1608931
i'll look for it. thank you

No. 1608954

>>1607656
The real division is men and women. A technocratic biosecurity surveillance regime will favor men because the elite is, and has always been, 100% greedy men with womb envy who want to fuck children and teenagers.

No. 1609001

>>1608919
nona, i am sorry for what you went through. full disclosure: i am asexual woman in her thirties. i had sex before, for the benefit of my partners but as i matured i realised i just am not into it, and so i decided not to have it. if that means being single, so be it. i say this to you so you can kinda see that i am also not a "normal" person. i am not sex positive nor negative. i am just neutral about it. that said, please go talk to a therapist. some therapists suck, yes, and the fact is: finding the RIGHT therapist for you is much like dating, kek. you need to try a few and you need to "dump" one as soon as you see they are not going to be "clicking" for you. i want you to do this because you are young, and you say you want to have sex. you have a loving partner. why lose out on that just because you are scared to talk to a few psychologists? the solution to your problem is simple, even if it is not easy. i wish you luck and i send you a lot of positive energy

No. 1609115

>>1606578
Weaponized psychosis. Chaos magik of the highest variant, you know everything that you need to know about TPTB when you realize that the methods they use to starting new recruits and destroying their enemies are the same. Weaponized psychosis is one of the worst crimes against hunanity.

No. 1609222

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>>1582708
Extremely late tinfoil but women who are suspicious of BC should look up DES (diethylstilbestrol). This was a hormone given to women in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s and it caused severe reproductive harm, cancer, PCOS and fuckups in all the children of these women who took it. I know because I'm the grandchild of a woman who took this shit and I just had to have a radical hysterectomy because my reproductive organs were so severely fucked up. Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong - I had endo, I had salpingo, I had 2 types of cysts, I had only one working ovary, my fallopian tubes were twisted inside out (wtf) and they also found adeno after the fact. About the only thing I didn't have wrong with me was PCOS, which I was tested multiple times for throughout my life. I was in perimenoupause at age 28. My mother also had horrible reproductive problems, endo and also had to go through a radical hysterectomy. Women in my family have not had any history of reproductive fuckery since before my grandma (and before she took DES).
Personally I've always been suspicious of newer contraception, like implants, because they seem so much more invasive than something like the pill. I also became very suspicious of the pill in my early 20s because no one wanted to educate me on its risks and blew me off whenever I asked if it had any. To be honest I don't know what straight women are supposed to fucking do. I'm not straight so I don't have to worry about the contraceptive side of these things but I worry about my straight sisters who have to deal with shitty ass moids.

No. 1609273

You know how sometimes a picture of a receipt with 'no tip' and some sort of insult written on it gets thousands of upvotes sometimes on reddit, sparking an intense backlash against tipping culture in the comments? Sometimes I wonder if its a plant posting them… like some intelligence esque economic entity making these posts riling people up, so they the in keeping the moral high ground those commenters tip their service workers generously (I do this. Been a waitress.) effectively keeping the cost of labor much lower for corporations since legally they just need to equal minumum wage pay, and giving the exscuse to the company of being able to point at the massive ampunt of collective money those tips add up to which would be 'taken' from the workers if tippibg culture is abolished to argue that would hurt the worker? USA centric btw

No. 1609281

>>1609273
Not American but I've always thought this myself. It's so fucking crazy to me that employers can just say "lol go get half your wages from customers, I'm not paying you anything more" and people will rabidly defend this system. Like yeah, I do tip good service workers, but I would hate having to tip everywhere I go so some asshole business owner can get even richer.

No. 1609286

The current anti-gay conservative moral panic is an attempt to distract from their own noncery once again, specifically denying 10 y/o rape victims abortions and the SBC and other ongoing religious sex scandals. The Duggar/IBLP docuseries that just dropped seems to also have them sweating bullets (especially since the IBLP has a surprising amount of influence over conservative politics as a whole).

They're also assuming all gay people treat little boys the same way they treat little girls.

No. 1609291

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>>1609115
Talk more about this weaponized psychosis please. I may have been a victim.

No. 1609294

>>1609286
Both sides are pedos. There's pictures of Hunter Biden with naked children being spread over the internet and Joe Biden was recently in another public groping scandal. Republican and Democrat is irrelevant because any member the elite is a pedophile.

No. 1609298

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>>1609115
Do you think psychosis can be good sometimes? Pic related

No. 1609302

>>1609298
NTA but as a diagnosed schizo, I do think it can be good. But those good times are incredibly rare. The last "good" hallucination I had was about 7 or so years ago where I argued about my repressed childhood trauma with a goatlike demon who opened up a black hole in my living room. I actually felt like I worked some shit out after I came to, but it's been all bad times since then.

No. 1609303

>>1609294
Yeah but only one side wants to force 10 year olds to gestate rape fetuses and is against efforts to ban child marriage and force religious leaders to be mandatory reporters in all 50 states.

Liberal pedos exist but don't act like being able to groom and rape little girls to their hearts content isn't a major platform of the GOP.

No. 1609304

>>1609298
That's what psychosis is like?
Sounds like a Buddhist reaching enlightenment
Or a shroom trip

No. 1609305

>>1609294
This is what people don't get. They play around pretending to be enemies while they all have the same interests, which are treating normal people like slaves, subjugating women and taking their children because they're all pedophiles. Behind closed doors I'm sure they have a good laugh together while we're here taking sides.

No. 1609306

>>1609304
did you even read the screenshot?

No. 1609308

>>1609306
No
Sorry, I'm under the influence of a psychoactive compound

No. 1609312

>>1609303
Both sides have the same objective because they are the same group of elites. Vote for the red pedo party or vote for the blue pedo party, the end result is the same.

>>1609305
It's unfortunate the majority of the population is too dumb to realize this. Party politics is a distraction.

No. 1609393

>>1609302
Oh, that's kind of sad, hope you reunite with the goat some day if that would somehow be helpful.
>>1609304
Ayrt kek it is from psychonaut wiki
>>1609308
What's your chemical of choice right now, anon?
>>1609305
>Behind closed doors I'm sure they have a good laugh together while we're here taking sides.
Exactly. All opposition of relevant magnitude is controlled opposition.

No. 1609398

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No. 1609400

>>1609393
Honestly I feel like the goat dude did his job. I was repressing and justifying the beatings I got as a kid and this fucker was like "this black hole leads to hell, it is in your home because you allow it to be" and that really hit me. I acknowledged what happened to me. That it wasn't my fault, that I didn't deserve it. The black hole closed and I've not seen it since. I feel like the goat was just my mind projecting my personal demons into someone I could argue with so I could make sense of things, if that makes sense. My hallucinations now are mostly auditory, like I have a handler narrating my life and negging me all day which is why I suspect V2K.

No. 1609413

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>Mfw I see that this thread has dozens of replies since I last checked it 36 hours ago
Plz don’t disappoint me with lame infighting and 43IQ christianity babble

No. 1609416

>>1609413
well… hope you like asexual blogposting

No. 1609442

>>1609416
way to be a bitch nona. some nona, clearly in anguish, posted a cry for help and another nona tried to help her. literally two posts. why are you like this

No. 1609477

>>1607656
idk with the way people act, i wouldn't be that surprised if we hit some sort of technological peak in the next 1000 years and then somehow regressed back to living in agragian societies. human beings are destructive and self-sabotaging dumbasses.

it's either that or another plague wipes out all the retards kek.

No. 1609495

>>1607600
Sun lovers are always high af on copium as evidenced by >>1607584 they will literally grasp at weird ass straws like b-but muh vitamin d!! As if most people shouldn’t be taking supplemental vitamin d anyway kek. All the sun loving people I know who say they still get carded at whatever age they are, are so far up their own asses and always look bad and are delusional about it

No. 1609496

The media tries to portray black women in a poor light because the white people in power know that a races strength is held within the women in the group. They know they can still keep black people in check and black men from ever being successful as a whole this way. Even if for example a black man did become successful he’s going to dump all his money right back into rich white peoples hands because he’s going to marry someone white most likely but if they were to portray black women in a positive light other races would wanna marry them more and dump money into their communities which rich whites cant let happen. If the women within a race are extremely abused and seen as trash no matter what that race will always be at the bottom.

No. 1609499

>>1609495
>sun lovers
Ok this is kind of a dark insult. Creepy. We’re not supposed to like the sun now? I’m gonna sun my asshole tomorrow just to spite you

No. 1609502

>>1609499
you can do whatever you want anon, we dont care.
>>1609495
they think that getting carded means they look young even though my 60 year old mom still gets carded depending on the place.

No. 1609504

>>1609477
1000? Id bet its 200 to 300 years max honestly. I agree.

No. 1609510

>>1609298
Psychedelic/psychoactive substance induced states really aren’t anything like actual schizo/bipolar psychosis, nonna. The military already tried to see if they could weaponize psychedelics and when they realized they basically had the opposite effect than what they wanted, they made that shit super fucking illegal.

No. 1609514

>>1609499
I’ve non ironically considered starting a movement where the main thing was avoiding the sun and covering oneself in the presence of the sun, meanwhile being naked in presence of the moon. Sounds like fun, good sun fearing people and all that.

No. 1609533

>>1607608
Literally who cares if a woman wants to get more sun and will look older in comparison to someone who sat inside when they are in their 40s? I'm sure the stress of desperately trying to look like you are 35 when you are 45 for your pedo moid husband will age you faster than the mindset of this carefree woman relaxing in the sun and enjoying her time on earth.

No. 1609534

>>1609504
i think it'll be sooner than that, the earth cant sustain the rate at which we take and never give back. maybe its just wishful thinking but i think that we will be forced to go back to pre 1950 ways of living, it would be more (ideally) gradual, but things like everyone having a garden and greenhouse because of the cost of shipping food and inflation/recession especially with layoffs starting to happen, maybe raising chickens and things like that for people to be more self sufficient, maybe some of them will even decide they dont want to reenter the job market after being laid off and will decide to start a small business or do farmers markets or something. i just dislike the idea of this happening while the rich are still lounging away on their estates, but not much can be done about that unless all their workers abandon them and they have to live like the rest of us peasants. i know this isnt super likely because people are addicted to city living and the instant gratification of buying anything with next day shipping rather than making what they can themselves and supporting local artisans, but a girl can dream.

No. 1609544

>>1609504
kek you're right, i was being super generous.

>>1609534
>but things like everyone having a garden and greenhouse because of the cost of shipping food and inflation/recession especially with layoffs starting to happen, maybe raising chickens and things like that for people to be more self sufficient

this is unlikely to happen with the current system. corporations are already preparing for our dystopian soylent green future by producing lab grown meat and having industrial-scale hydroponic gardens with literal test tube vegetables. most people are not raised to be self-sufficient anyway and land will either become too expensive to own or more likely, people will just fall back on the convenience of their over-processed vitatube meats and tasteless frankenveg to even care. but i do think that there will be people who will live outside the city, as always, though they'll likely be looked on as weirdos even more so now than ever. i see the future going more towards choosing to live with others (all this community bullshit propaganda i see in the media and niggas bullying you for not having your face all over social media) or choosing to live on your own and do your own thing. for some reason we're all being forced to become one big collective via forcible osmosis and somehow wanting to live in solitude, maintaining your own identity without the drama that comes with other human beings makes you "strange".

No. 1609560

>>1609510
I will say that the closest thing to true psychosis you can get from drugs is amphetamine induced. Psychedelics aren’t gonna make you feel like a shizo but meth or even too much Adderall will. Ego death from an acid trip is wild don’t get me wrong, but it’s just incomparable to actual raw psychosis and to amphetamine induced psychosis.

No. 1609566

>>1609514
I’m converted. Mooning my asshole sounds more goth.

No. 1609568

>>1609544
i hate cities. i wish they would all be nuked or something so villages can have a comeback in north america

No. 1609571

>>1609568
i have nothing against city living personally, i live in paris to go to university and enjoy it for the most part. i advocate for everyone to live life on their own terms, just so long as you don't try to force me or others to do it too because you think it's "right".

No. 1609580

>>1609571
Must be nice being French, oui?

No. 1609581

>>1609580
i'm actually a burger who went abroad.

No. 1609584

this is so stupid but i am 95% sure i found trump chan from celebricows on reddit accidentally. there have been a bunch of posts by someone who types identically in /r/popculturechat and /r/fauxmoi which i read while pooping at work. only reason i'm posting this is because she posts like a normal older person on reddit for most of the post history but then once she starts posting on lolcow she goes full trump chan. although honestly a lot of gen-x/boomers type like that and have no concept, but from their post history it looks identical

No. 1609586

>>1609584
>pooping at work
based. make them deal with it

No. 1609588

>>1609584
i'm in my 30's so i'm not age shaming, it's just weird how they type like an idiot when they are fully capable of normally expressing themselves up until they found lolcow. their posts on reddit start being the same weird OK YA. WHATEVER. YOU SUCK. instead of normal replies

are we infecting the elders

No. 1609595

>>1609571
i just hate my city because a bunch of rich californians moved here and other cities payed their homeless to get on busses to come here so they dont have to deal with them so the city makes me reee now. obviously everyone should have the right to live as they want to.

No. 1609597

>>1609595
i understand nona and as a former californian i apologize if i came off as condescending.

No. 1609601

>>1609595
Is it Tampa or is it Tampa

No. 1609603

>>1609601
Remembering that in the local dialect tampa is in fact a 3 syllable word, makes it easy to spot the increasingly rare native

No. 1609610

>>1609597
Man don't apologize for being Californian. I'm from California too and we're not all dickheads.

No. 1609615

>>1609398
That underwear is way too clean.

No. 1609630

>>1609534
Ayrt kek i already do farmers markets self employed and am working toward self sufficency at home. Maybe youre right and it will happen even quicker. If only i had a house of my own. Still renting. The nigel and I are looking to buy later this year maybe next, when foreclosures rise (sorry to everyone forced out of their homes) and having space for chickens plus garden and garage are a must on our list…he is an avid gardener already and I build things. Working on indoor drop down clothes drying racks atm so I can stop using the dryer for both electricity cost cutting and for clothing to last longer. Clothes lines not allowed here. I havent bought bread this year, i make it all from scratch. Most people I know are also working towards exactly what you describe. Been approached by several in laws and friends to casually discuss possibly going in on some land together. Yeah it really seems a huge chunk of people, in the states anyways, are sick of how things are and just want to have the time and space to take care of themselves instead of buying more and more and more leading to working more and more and more in order to afford the buying. I really hate this mass consumerism based economy. There doesnt seem to be much to actually do in many places outside of the downtowns of big cities. It all revolves around either buying things or eating. I wish more experience based consumer product was a thing. Idk. The weather has been super freaky round me lately too. Gorilla hail every 2 weeks it seems. I didnt even know gorilla hail existed til this year. Im weirdly excited to see all this shit burn over my lifetime and how much things will change in the coming decades.

No. 1609639

>>1609601
youre very far off, i happened like 10 years ago and its all been downhill from there.

No. 1609693

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Pretty much.

No. 1609696

>>1609584
Please share link or at least caps. Even censored caps are fine.

No. 1609711

>>1609693
Meanwhile the actual definition of genocide rather than 'elevated discrimination'
>the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

No. 1609715

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There is a trans genocide going on right now, but not in the way that they think there is. It’s a form of population control. If you trick mentally ill people into sterilizing themselves and culling themselves from the gene pool you don’t have to do it for them.

No. 1609725

>>1609693
I seldom feel irate but this post is sending me over the edge. I am so sick of how trans people manipulate language and attach themselves to things they are not.

For example, a biological male who mutilates himself and wears a dress cannot "transition" nor is he a "woman", therefore "trans woman" is manipulative language.

The word "genocide" should not be thrown around so lightly when it's usually referring to indigenous people being wiped off the face of the planet. That is a serious problem. Some discord mod who cannot take his estrogen is not genocide. Trans people not being allowed to self harm with hormones and cutting off their body parts is the furthest thing from genocide. If anything, forcing that to halt will save their lives and especially future victims, like children who are so susceptible to this twisting of the English language.

No. 1609780

>>1609581
Must be nice being either rich or in a foreign exchange program.

No. 1609906

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This is a psy-op.

No. 1609910

>>1609715
wow suddenly i love trans people

No. 1610006

>>1609906
Yes nona this scared the fuck out of me, specifically the stuff to do with Facetime. When you facetime with the slave goggles on it sends a CG image of you to your facetime partner, and in the image you don't have the goggles on, instead it replicates your facial expressions by reading your eyebrows/eye area's movements. This technology is incredible but it also means it's getting perfect advertising data. Every single thing you see, you react to with tiny face movements, indicating positive or negative feelings even if you haven't registered what you're even looking at. The adverts you'll get will seem like the machine is reading your mind, in the way people paranoidly accuse their phones of doing at the moment (atm it's just tracking everything you & your housemates Google). The "memory recording" aspect is similarly sinister, worse is that it encourages people to wear the goggles specifically because important life events are happening. I estimate the first birth (for example) recorded by the goggles will be a couple of days after they hit the market. The first face the baby sees will be half machine, it won't see it's mother's eyes until the recording has finished. Imo these goggles will be the singularity, not this exact product, but once they're as comfy to wear as sunglasses then that's it, the new human face will include goggles, same way the new human brain includes a smartphone.

No. 1610009

>>1610006
samefag, I didn't even notice your filename at first, great minds think alike kek

No. 1610037

>>1610006
How wonderfully terrifying! I'm glad I'm moving to somewhere even more rural so I can just tend to my crops and my hens and pretend that this isn't what the world is coming to.

No. 1610281

>>1610006
i spoke to a woman who works in advertising last year and she told me it is true that phones literally use the front camera to track your eye movements and reactions to things. all phone do this by default. i'm glad with the newest phone i bought i've always had the front camera covered, fuck that shit.

No. 1610291

>>1610281
I was literally just talking about this like 10 minutes ago with a friend. We were both saying how we'll just think something and then get an ad for it. Also, earlier this week I put on a chain necklace then got an ad for chain necklaces.

No. 1610298

>>1610291
yes!!! my closest female friend IRL is a fellow schizo (joke) conspiracy theorist and we have both had stuff like that happen to us. a while ago while visiting my parents i looked at a bad of twizzlers on the counter, didnt even say a word about it, kind of wanted one and found it odd my mom had twizzlers because she prefers red vines. i don't EVER buy candy, don't like having it in the house and don't really eat any. but once i got home i got a twizzlers ad and found it super fucking creepy. i usually pay attention to ads i see to guess why i'm being shown it and most make sense (dispensary ads from talking about weed a lot, ads for stores i've bought stuff from before) but once in a while i get an ad that creeps me out because it was something i only THOUGHT about, never spoke about or searched about.

No. 1610305

>>1610291
samefag but when i took a cognitive psychology class the prof was a huge normie and even he spoke about this and said it's true and to try it by saying something you don't ever buy like "we need diapers" near your phone a couple times, he's done it before. there's a book written by a woman who used to work in this field called "weapons of math destruction".
i don't know why people deny this is happening because anyone can try it and it goes to show that people scroll past ads all the time and let them subconsciously affect them instead of looking at them critically.
of COURSE they would do this, anything to help advertisers because they make each other money and it's easier than people think. i've argued about this with my dad and it's like deniers believe we actually think someone is sitting there watching you or listening to you when it's clearly some AI program that feeds an algorithm. we have voice deepfakes ffs obviously if AI can translate text to sound, sound can be translated into text, even if it can be inaccurate, it obviously still works.

No. 1610324

For academiafags; has anyone ever feared going into a rabbit hole while doing research for an essay or thesis then ended up finding some shady shit only to end up suicided or interned at a Fortune 500 company or politics as a higher-up’s lackey to end up with the same fate?

As an older student who’s read about the deaths of college students and White House interns during Bill Clinton’s presidency, it scared the shit out of me regarding delving into deep subjects for research and my essays end up carrying the same agendas when doing so for dat A+++. Sometimes I feel shame because I don’t agree with the liberal globohomo agenda but I also want to graduate with a high gpa that isn’t a 2.5.

No. 1610341

I was saying my computer's password out loud multiple times so my mom could type it and log into my computer, and she couldn't get it right, so I went to type it into WhatsApp for her and the auto-fill recommended me the whole password kek wtf. Do phones really monitor your voice like that?

No. 1610374

>>1610341
they do, for certain. even if you have an iphone and turn off "live capture" mode or whatever. what's more concerning is this eye movement stuff >>1610281 mentions. i've also had weird "mind reading" experiences and wondered how it was happening. tbh i can't remember what the last thing was but it was so specific and weird. especially because as far as listening goes, i think the information received would get confusing.

No. 1610427

>>1609291
Well, how to start. For starters "weaponized psychosis" is how i call it. But ideas aren't new and i'm sure that this concept has been worked before under other names even elaborated in a better way. Also i'm esl so this text is going to be even more werid than what it should, so if something is not clear please tell me.
As an starting point both >>1609510 & >>1609560 are right, in a way. Drugs alone don't do what TPTB want, raw psychosis is always "worse" than drug-induced anything. Don't misundestand me drugs can fuck you really bad because a lot of those drugs were ritual elements and sometimes those rituals work, even if you don't hope for it and it's a lot more than just fun colors, to put it lighty.
Us humans have something that males us humans. Call it whatever, i'm not going to do more useless religious debate ITT but it's there. DSMV doesnt have a legit definition of psychosis anymore (hmm, wonder why) but to put it blunty is the lost of reality. As even psychotics themselves would tell you, doesn't really begin to describe what it really is. A lot of schizos would tell you they're on "a higher astral plane" or some shit like that to the point it's a common trope in delusions. I wouldnt say that, i would say they began to perceive everything at the same level, sometimes at the same time, forgeting or even losing on the chaos what makes us (humans)… be us. I wouldnt say that isn't there, it's just mushed together with everything else and nothing has a valuation system anymore, (something that it's indispensable for living).
"Deleting" the barrer that prevent us for feeling everything or a lot of things & energies at the same time, is what chaos magik is about. They say that having all the options allows them to choose better, in some sort of spiritualism lassez faire. Whatever. Essentially it's about inflicting psychosis on yourself. With a mix of multi-plane attacks, they figured out how to remove the barrer in order to seach "another things". The Weaponized part in weaponized psychosis.
They either do it on themselves (In this category enters all the freemason rituals, and all the fuckery that TPTB they make their descendants do and anyone who wants to work with them [yes, trannyshit is a part of it. Companies made a literal bow to protect trannyshit. More on that later]) or in other people, either for fun, personal grievances or truly "dangerous" individuals for them (and we have a parcial grasp on those. We call it "psyops", "gangstalking", "gaslighting", and ect. But we tend to separate them as if they're different techniques of torture and derealization when it's more often than not all tied together with a nice bow of occultist practices, satanism to be exact because you may not believe in a God in an abrahamic sense but they recognize AND are in a open war against Him, and we, commoners, are the cannon fodder if we don't get our priorities straight and strengthen our spirit as it's noted ITT above)
The issue with psychosis, both "natural" or "weaponized" is that is a fucking lonely experience, and in loneliness hunanity perishes. And if hunanity perishes, so does the self. Just like regular lassez faire, spiritual lassez faire just ends on fucking misery. They know this and and accept it as a part of their war with God. The nonconsensual victims don't get any choice tho. It's just horrible things happening to you mostly as >>1609302 says. Something "good" (as in "not destructive to the self" lmao) can come on because there is "good" in chaos. It's not" good" on the tradicional sense because tradicional goodness is a scale of values, and chaos also devastates the said scale.
I think most psychotic people are just very susceptible to the chaos magic that constantly surrounds us. Systems-based psychologists are right that psychosis is born from a faulty family structure, what they don't count is that also psychotic individuals are more vulnerable to external forces and that said external forces are not necessarily physical lmao. What pacifies the normie destroys the schizo, as they see it for what it is or at least they recognize it as not good.
And about >>1609298 meh, drug-induced shit is another thing completely different. About the "good effects on their life after the trips" that psychonauts love to talk about, usually people can archive basic empathy without ego death kek.

No. 1610459

I dont normally read this threads but ever since gangstalking was discussed and that creepy scrote sperg started spamming and asking if "gangbangs" happen after gangstalking I support all of you, even the unhinged ones, one or two out of a hundred of you have to be right statistically

No. 1610463

>>1610298
Phones interact using silent noise. This is fact, not conspiracy. Phones communicate with eachother using tones people cannot hear. So it would make sense that if your mother went into a store and bought twizzlers, the information would end up being communicated with your phone as well. These 'silent'messages are also played throughout all kinds of grocery and department stores to interact with your phone.

No. 1610465

>>1610463
No wonder I feel relaxed after I spend a day with my phone staying dead. Not just turned off, dead and not charged.

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No. 1610485

>>1609906
they made the eyephone from futurama real

No. 1610531

>>1582785
imagine geting IUD or Taking the pill. lol. why are so many women still doing this? the birth control conspiracy is real and has fucked so many women up. I'm never getting that SHIT inserted or taking that fucking pill, these doctors will never take me alive.

No. 1610541

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>>1582770
>this examination shouldn't hurt me either because a finger is smaller than poop.
tfw a doctor doesn't understand (or care) about proper muscle relaxation to avoid pain/harm.

No. 1610542

>>1610531
It's greatly helped the spread of STDs so much it's insane. Not only that, combined with the abuse of drugs and repeat infections we're seeing all sorts of drug resistant strains cropping up all over.

No. 1610545

>>1571885
They definitely fuck with the brain in some not good ways. My sister started taking some and almost immediately started having some of the worst nightmares of her life. They continued every night until she eventually couldn't stand it anymore and quit. SSRIs gone, so too vanished the nightmares.
Seems pretty dang suspicious.

No. 1610557

>>1609222
>to be honest I don't know what straight women are supposed to fucking do.
Condoms. Literally condoms. Condoms exist. This isn't that difficult. In the the under 1% chance it breaks then so be it. Things happen for a reason. Grow up and deal with that baby. I know so many are unaware of this but sex is literally to reproduce. Deal with it.

No. 1610564

>>1610557
Nah, use condoms and if accidents happen then abort. Or maybe give the baby to this anon right here since she thinks a baby isn't a big deal because sex is to reproduce anyway.

No. 1610565

>>1610564
Or just don't have sex. PIV sex = reproduction. Separating these two concepts was clearly a mistake.

No. 1610568

>>1610565
I'm sure you want men to have sex for the sake of reproduction only too, right?

No. 1610571

>>1610564
babies are a big deal, thats why people need to stop treating sex like it's not a big deal. why is it always immediately to abortion? I'm not anti-abortion but the kind of callous way that pro-abortionists speak about abortion is very off putting like its no big deal! kill your child! Sorry, i'am not anti-abortion but you are quite literally terminating your childs life lol and no amount liberal double speak euphemism bullshit is gonna change that.

>>1610568
yes. they should be providing women with the babies they want. they are completely worthless subhumans outside of this.

No. 1610572

>>1610571
Yeah, it is ending a life. I don’t really care though. In nature females straight up eat their offspring if it inconveniences them.

No. 1610574

>>1610568
I don't believe that PIV sex should only be for reproduction. My point is that people are forgetting the association and are then surprised when a baby results. If someone isn't prepared to deal with a potential baby, then don't have PIV. All forms of contraception have the ability to fail and is sex with men really worth either the risk of an unwanted pregnancy or worth putting up with the side effects caused by birth control? The answer is no. Women will always be left with the burden of dealing with an unwanted pregnancy regardless of if it results in an abortion or a child being born.

No. 1610576

>>1610565
Based.

No. 1610577

>>1610571
you know that women have been inducing abortions for like forever right? it just used to be a lot more dangerous.

No. 1610580

>>1610577
>you know that women have been inducing abortions for like forever right?
why is this always framed as a good thing lmao

No. 1610593

>>1610580
i dont think its good its just something that has always happened and always will regardless of anyones thoughts on it, obviously having abortions is bad for you and its distressing to women who have had to go through it.

No. 1610600

>>1610574
Acting like giving birth is somehow less cruel than abortion is quite a reach in this day and age. Abortions are a kindness 100% of the time, selfless women choose abortion.

No. 1610603

>>1610600
>abortions are a kindness
libtard detected.

No. 1610609

>>1610603
Being anti abortion is one of the biggest red flags for being a pedo supporter besides supporting troonery

No. 1610612

>>1610603
Nta but what do you think happens to unwanted children? Either they go to foster homes where they're abused (and not all of them are adopted) or they are raised by resentful parents who hate them. Abortions literally prevent suffering.

No. 1610616

>>1610324
QRD on College Students and White House representatives dying during Bill Clinton's presidency?

No. 1610622

>>1610612
not to mention those who have drug addicted parents or living in poverty literally not being able to afford food. I used to have a classmate on elementary/middle school whose parents were drug addicted and he once admitted his only meals were at school, not to mention every single thing he owned was donated by other parents or the school staff. anyone who studied at a public school can see how awful it is to live in poverty, had several classmates that barely had shoes that fit. nobody cares and nobody does anything about it, prolifers only care about the child when it's inside a woman, once it's out, they don't give a shit and would say helping those kids in need would be socialism or something.

No. 1610626

>>1610612
>>1610622
I’m convinced literally all “pro life” folks are just pedo supporters, including the anon spouting that shit here. They want more fodder for pedo elites to abuse and forcing women to have kids they don’t want is the best way to ensure plenty of children will be available for the child molesting elites. Cause all the kids who would have been safely and kindly aborted will instead grow up in an environment that encourages them to resort to things like sugaring and camming later in life at best and actual trafficked street prostitution at worse but not worst by far.

No. 1610629

>>1610626
you're absolutely right. besides, poor people having a lot of kids is always good for the elites - cheap labor. imagine if every poor family stopped at 2 children. suddently there aren't enough to people to work at those shitty jobs nobody wants. we're experiencing this right now, for example, with people barely wanting to work at fast food jobs because they pay horribly, that's another reason why the elites want to remove the reproductive rights for poor women. rich women can always afford to fly elsewhere and have safe abortions.

No. 1610630

>>1610281
ayrt, yes, that too, I forgot about the front cam since I sharpied over mine kek. Your phone will notice if you re-read a sentence or look at an image for a long time, also it'll notice if you show someone else something on the screen - if it's your Nigel, it knows him from photos of you two together on your phone, so if you show him something that couples typically buy together (eg a crockery set, furnishings, holidays) you might even get ads popping up for those items with discounts available. If you're ok with the dystopian aspect, this is a good way to online shop. Your phone can listen to you but this is something you can turn off by setting it to battery saver mode… Yep, "battery saving" == "stop using extra power to spy on me". The phone allows it since you might need the extra power to buy something.

No. 1610631

>>1610600
Where did I comment on the morality of abortion? I said that PIV carries the highest risk of pregnancy and the end result of an unwanted pregnancy is either abortion or a child being born.

No. 1610632

>>1610631
Ok but telling women ‘just don’t have sex’ is retarded, nobody is going to do that, and having an abortion is accepting the consequences.

No. 1610633

>>1610630
Samefag, this is why battery saver turns itself off automatically when your phone is charged, but doesn't turn on automatically when the battery is really low unless you tell it to.

Another concern with these goggles is job interviews. You could write an app for employers where the gimmick is, the candidate wears the goggles on the job interview video call, and the app "reads their microexpressions" to tell you if they're trustworthy, smart etc. Goes without saying the app will be racist and just a scam, and people will lose out.

No. 1610634

>>1610626
so, because I don't believe that killing an unborn child is this wonderful ~kindness~ thing, I'm a pedo? Wow. This is why hardline conservatives can dunk on pro-abortionists so easily because 99% of you come off as callous, extremists that ARE celebrating something that is actually really horrible. Only a sociopathic woman or man could walk way after having an abortion and feel like they did an act of kindness. lmao. I hope none of you bring a child to full term because its obvious you have 0 maternal instincts and 100% brain damage from all the years of birth control coursing through your body. sad.

No. 1610636

>>1610634
Nigel said to get off the computer and go get dinner ready

No. 1610637

>>1610631
just because you hate having sex with men it doesn't mean every woman does. also you're putting the burden entirely on women like it's our fault for being born with uteruses. we can carry the child, sure, but the father can just fuck off if he wants and we all know enforcing child support payments is hard and many jobs will happily pay men under the table so they can avoid child support. regardless of child support or not, raising a child is itself is hard with money or not. you seem extremely sheltered or underaged if that's the hill you want to die on.

No. 1610639

>>1610634
nta but how many children do you plan on adopting? do you do any kind of voluntary work to help children without stable homes? or is the act of kindness just popping the kid out and whatever else is not your business?

No. 1610640

>>1610574
>>1610634
>writing “sad” a la pedo king trump
>”abortion is actually really HORRIBLE”
>”If someone isn't prepared to deal with a potential baby, then don't have PIV. ”

Go back to the pedo tradfag hell that spawned you, demon.

No. 1610643

>>1610634
so you agree? you think it's kinder for such CaLlOuS eXtReMiStS to have an abortion than to give birth to an unwanted baby?

No. 1610644

>>1610574
>hurr just don't have PIV
can't wait for you to get married and experience marital rape because apparently your Nigel can only have sex with you if you're going to get pregnant and there isn't a single married man in this God's green Earth that would happily accept that. if you're going to be a tradthot, accept you have to have sex when your Nigel wants to because that's your function as a tradwife. if you end up having 7 children, that's what God wanted so don't whine.

No. 1610646

>>1610463
holy fuck. glad i typically don't ever have a reason to bring my phone into a store and usually leave it in my car. it sucks we have to trade privacy for convenience.

No. 1610647

>>1610640
Probably not, they likely want the callous extremists to be forced to incubate the fetus to term and then hand them over to a godly family

No. 1610650

>>1610638
>trump
you people are obsessed with that man. what does he have to do with anything.
>Go back to the pedo tradfag
I have no idea what that means
>>1610639
I don't plan on adopting any child, all I said was that abortion isn't a good thing. lmao. Am I meant to support it and love it? I don't get it.
>>1610643
literally yes. If you genuinely wouldn't think twice about terminating your potential child then you really shouldn't be a mother cos its clear you have little to no maternal instincts.

you can be pro-abortion and not support it at the same time. You are the type of liberal feminists that give so much ammunition to conservatives who think women are just using abortion as a form of birth control and revel in the glory of killing their own children to own the cons. you are playing right into their hands.

I'd like to talk a bit about the conspiracy around the pushing of birth control and this new rise of normalising abortion as this thing that "isn't a big deal". I think its very harmful to women.

No. 1610651

>>1610650
>I don't plan on adopting any child
so you're not really against abortion, you're just pro birthing?

No. 1610653

>>1610427
A++ post. not much to add other than you put a lot of concepts i think about neatly together.
>What pacifies the normie destroys the schizo, as they see it for what it is or at least they recognize it as not good.
this is why a lot of our types are forced to be loners in whatever communities we inhabit.

No. 1610654

>>1610650
please reply to >>1610644, unless you don't plan on having sex/getting married so I don't get why you even have an opinion on that to begin with.

No. 1610655

>>1610632
Why is it retarded? If a woman doesn't want a child, don't perform the activity that creates one. There's sex acts other than PIV.

>having an abortion is accepting the consequences

A consequence of something that doesn't need to occur. Being in the position of needing an abortion isn't a pleasant experience. Not only do some women find it deeply traumatic, an abortion either requires taking medication which has side effects or it's a surgical procedure that has it's own risks.

>>1610637
>just because you hate having sex with men it doesn't mean every woman does
I'm married

>also you're putting the burden entirely on women like it's our fault for being born with uteruses

Because that's the reality. In the event of an unwanted pregnancy, the burden is placed entirely on the woman.

>>1610640
You're talking to two different posters with different opinions. I'm not against abortion, I think it's occurrence should be minimized because it's not a fun day out for reasons I have already stated.

>>1610644
Rape obviously has nothing to do with a woman choosing to have sex, which is my point. PIV sex with men is not worth the risk for the woman because no form of contraceptive is 100% effective. No matter how much we try to disassociate sex from reproduction, it is what it is. Acknowledging reality does not make me a tardthot, it's basic common sense.

No. 1610656

>>1610630
good to know about battery saving mode! i might just have that on as much as possible.

No. 1610657

>>1610655
“Just don’t do the one thing that literally every het couple desires to do with each other” and you think there’s some conspiracy in the normalizing of abortion, when abortion rights are actually being actively dismantled? Wtf kek

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No. 1610659

>>1610655
It’s not up to you if it’s an acceptable risk or not. Nothing in life is 100% risk free. To most people the convenience of driving is worth the risk of an accident. To some people the pleasure of smoking is worth the risk. To a lot of women the pleasure and emotional aspects of sex are worth the risk.

No. 1610660

>>1610650
https://abortiontestimonials.com/
honestly i am on the fence about abortion, and sometimes i wonder if the argument is a psyop for everyone on both sides to ignore women who get pressured into abortions, whether its religious, cultural (like cultures that favor having sons over daughters), or the moid being controlling.

No. 1610661

>>1610660
do you realize more often than not women just don't want to have a child because the burden of raising it is 100% on us? why do you think there is a conspiracy that women don't want to have children? you sound clinically insane.
>>1610655
your nigel 100% cheats on you if you only have sex for reproduction but I guess you're fine with that.

No. 1610662

>>1610660
Bc it’s way more of a concern how many women are forced to bare children for men. Like infinitely so. The amount of women “forced to abort” is abysmally small and nearly 100% of the emotional turmoil comes from outside cultural influences like that one nonnie in here saying abortion being normalized is sooooo awful. In the absence of those cultural and societal shame, the most common post abortion feelings are relief and comfort. Mothers and people who want to become mothers have and have had abortions for decades, it doesn’t make someone not maternal.

Also the damage from being “forced” to have an abortion by an abusive moid pales in comparison to the many dozens more women being forced to bare an abusive scrote’s spawn that will go on to become yet another victim.

No. 1610663

>>1610661
no, i don't want kids at all. either side frothing at the mouth about abortion is cringe to me anyway. i see valid points on both sides. it's not like it's in my power to change legislation anyway so i don't see the point in having super heated arguments with strangers online about it. like i said, i'm on the fence. if you're mad about it that's your problem, i don't really care.

No. 1610664

>>1610662
>Also the damage from being “forced” to have an abortion by an abusive moid pales in comparison to the many dozens more women being forced to bare an abusive scrote’s spawn that will go on to become yet another victim.
i don't agree. i think either situation is extremely harmful and wouldn't want to be pressured/forced to abort OR bear a child. in both situations the root of the issue is the woman not fully being given the right to choose how we want to live our lives.

No. 1610667

>>1610657
>“Just don’t do the one thing that literally every het couple desires to do with each other”
Humans can have full control over their sexual urges. I didn't have penetrative sex with my husband until a week before our engagement. We did still have sex in that time, it just wasn't PIV.

>>1610658
Advocating for women to have less sex with low value men makes me glow in the dark?

>>1610661
>your nigel 100% cheats on you if you only have sex for reproduction
Where did I say that sex should only be for reproduction? My point, that is either being misunderstood or disingenuously mischaracterized, is that women should only have PIV sex with men if they are aware of the consequences and are fully prepared to face them should the worst happen. I do have PIV with my husband because I am in a stable, long term relationship and if I were to get pregnant he would fully support me, we would remain as a married couple and raise the child together, we are also financially capable of providing everything a child needs. If I was not in a favourable situation for a child to be born, I would refrain from PIV because it eliminates the risk entirely.

No. 1610669

>>1610663
I'm not mad about it, I'm sad at how sheltered you are. if you're sitting on the fence about it, it means you see why one would do it but wouldn't be able to do it yourself because you know your peers would guilt you.

No. 1610670

>>1610572
Your comment is based and overlooked. There isn't any kind of freely living female in nature but human women that are forced to raise babies and give birth when they don't want it. It literally is up to us to decide if we want to keep it, it's a basic right that any existing female in the world has, just human males try to impose their dominance over us and keep us down like they always had and some dumb naive women fall for this.

No. 1610671

>>1610667
Anon are you religious?

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No. 1610673

>>1610667
>he would fully support me, we would remain as a married couple and raise the child together, we are also financially capable of providing everything a child needs
you know that's not the case with most women even if they do everything "right", a lot of the times women get abandoned mid pregnancy, not to mention if they get sick the chance of being abandoned becomes much, much higher. so even if they had PIV in marriage and the woman got pregnant and found out her husband was cheating or he hit her and didnt want to have a child you'd still guilt her? peak tradthot mentality, I hope you don't have daughters.

No. 1610674

>>1610667
>>1610671
Talking to this anon is like talking to any prolifer on the prolife subReddit. There are a lot of supposedly secular prolife fucks on there. The only difference is that she’s claiming she doesn’t mind abortion except using literally every other bit of their typical rhetoric.

No. 1610676

>>1610674
it is entirely possible to be influenced by religious morals without being religious yourself. it took me years to get over christian guilt over many things even though I am an atheist.

No. 1610678

>>1610667
Yeah, of course you have a perfect wealthy life with a perfect husband who doesn't even need sex. You still spend your time on the unhinged femcel site though, nothing weird with that. No one would lie and unnecessarily blog post on the internet just so it supports their arguments right? Kek anon do you think we are dumb.

No. 1610681

>>1610673
>you know that's not the case with most women even if they do everything "right"
If a woman genuinely believes that she would be able to raise a child and that her partner would support her, only he doesn't, that is a different situation. What I am suggesting is not having sex with a man if the woman is aware that he is not someone who she would want to have a child with. PIV = pregnancy, it's basic biology and nothing humans have invented is able to stop it entirely. Contraception is also a recent invention in human history. Condoms became widely available in the early 20th century and the contraceptive pill became available in the 1960s. Women not having sex with a man unless she was prepared to have a child with him was the norm for most of human history outside of instances where a woman was either forced into marriage or raped. Women have more bodily autonomy than ever before as well as wide spread availability of contraceptives, yet women are still finding themselves in the position of having unwanted pregnancies

>peak tradthot mentality

How in all the fuck does suggesting that women have less sex with men make me a tradthot?

>>1610674
I am not prolife. I have already stated that abortion should always be available.

No. 1610703

>>1610681
what you're suggesting are things that most people do unless they're pressured by their partners not to (moids love complaining about condoms), you're not doing any groundbreaking observations except parroting prolife talking points.

No. 1610705

>>1610681
>Contraception is also a recent invention in human history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control

No. 1610716

>>1610681
Are you autistic by any chance? Serious question. Your way of thinking is too black/white. Nobody stops to think about all the pros and cons and possible consequences of X before doing Y. Feelings, poor judgement etc play a role in decision making and might produce illogical results.

No. 1610720

>>1610427
Excellent post anon. I find it very interesting that since gangstalking and psychosis got brought up we've had two massive infights derail this thread. First suntan lotion (of all the fucking things in this world) and now abortion. inb4 it's a coincidence. Yeah yeah, I've heard that line before.

>>1610459
Thank you, nona. That's my thoughts on ganstalking too. Plenty of people could be hallucinating it - including myself - but statistically there has to be people out there genuinely going through it. I can't find the video, it was on a gangstalking page but I can't remember which one. Anyway, this military wife found out about degenerate things happening in this officers club. I think they had strippers in there or something like that. She put in a complaint to the higher ups and suddenly weird things started happening. She would return home and find all her cutlery out on the sideboards, furniture moved, things like that. Clearly someone had broken in to do this, but what are the police gonna do? They'd just think she was a schizo. She believes it was an attempted intimidation tactic for speaking out, but didn't let it stop her. Being that she made a complaint about the military, I fully believe they were trying to scare her into shutting up. If I find the video I'll post it.

No. 1610726

I really don't agree with the depopulation agenda. idk what they were testing but the elites don't want there to be less people. there want there to be as many as possible, and they want human life to be worth as little as it is in China.

No. 1610728

>>1610474
What if the sudden boom in AI language capability wasnt bc it was just trained on the internet but because it was trained on all of our smart device data being picked up by microphones and bluetooth and sound beacons etc in our day to day lives

No. 1610738

>>1610634
>its obvious you have 0 maternal instincts and 100% brain damage from all the years of birth control coursing through your body. sad
I never took birth control and I think breeding is evil (masons love it and they want to push breeding on everyone) and I think abortion can be great. Being free from maternal instincts is also great. Seetheeee

No. 1610739

>>1610681
So PIV = pregnancy, and pregnancy can often mean death from complications. So if you one day get pregnant, you will be aware of the risks of childbirth and if you have complications of any kind you will not be helped and you will be okay with it, because you should have known the risks beforehand and if you didn't want to die then you shouldn't have gotten pregnant in the first place. That's your thinking.

No. 1610746

>>1610634
All of you pro-life people avoid addressing the elephant in the room: you only care about children when they're in the womb, and don't care about them after they're born.

No. 1610749

>two anons: abortion should be allowed but maybe it shouldn't be encouraged or celebrated
>birth control robots: reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee killing our children is essential

No. 1610751

>>1610749
so you ran out of arguments now?

No. 1610754

>>1610630
Thanks for the tip, nonni. I have my laptop camera covered but just never thought of doing it on my phone!
I have now, little black square stuck on there, no selfie mode, no great loss tbh as I hate selfies so rarely ever use the front camera.

No. 1610758

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>>1610751
lmao when did me or other anon say we are pro life literally all we said was that it's weird to celebrate/normalise treat something as traumatic as abortion and sex as something trivial. A certain type of women get really angry when you question their right to kill their children lol. you people are like pic related.

No. 1610766

>>1610749
Go back to /pol/

No. 1610769

The sugar industry is behind the "artificial sweeteners are bad for you actually, sugar is better because it's natural "trend. They hate that there's a better tasting in less amounts alternative that is healthy for everyone to use and people are waking up to the dangers of cane sugar.

No. 1610771

>>1610758
I aborted my son cause I didn't like it's horoscope

No. 1610773

>>1610758
Sorry but you have the right to get rid of anything that needs to live inside of you like a parasite in order to survive, even if you kill it, yes, you have the right to do it because it's literally inside of you, not the other way around.

No. 1610774

>>1610749
More like
>Two anons: don't have sex if you don't want to have children!! I'm bitter and I say you can't have sex to feel nice, you must be prepared to get pregnant and not resort to abortion if you don't want the child because you having sex made me angry!!!
>Other anons: kek no
>You: REEEEEE YOU'RE ALL BOTS!! YOU MUST AGREE WITH CHILD MURDER THEN!! YOU'RE ALL WHORES AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SEX!!
You sound extremely bitter about women just being able to have sex and being able to end an unwanted pregnancy that will ruin their lives otherwise. And now you're trying to say that all women are happy to randomly kill fetuses and abort children for shitty reasons. You're extremely bitter and jealous kek

No. 1610775


No. 1610776

>>1610703
>you're not doing any groundbreaking observations except parroting prolife talking points.
Where have I said anything prolife? I have repeatedly stated that I am not prolife and believe that abortion should always be available.

>>1610705
I probably should have said safe and effective contraception. I'm aware that herbs were used but this would be classified as an abortifacient, not a contraceptive. Throughout history it has been women that have burdened with the responsibility of contraception and pregnancy, all I'm suggesting is that before using contraceptives and having sex, women should have access to all available information about efficiency and safety, they should then make a judgement on if it's worth it. In the majority of men aren't.

>>1610716
>Are you autistic by any chance?
I suspect that might be, I don't have a diagnoses though.

>Feelings, poor judgement etc play a role in decision making and might produce illogical results.

And this should be discouraged. Poor judgement and illogical decisions lead to bad outcomes. I don't understand why suggesting having less sex with men and making better choices regarding men in general is controversial, especially on LC of all places.

>>1610739
Women should be informed of all potential risks and then be allowed to make their own choices. I have said that disassociating PIV from reproduction is bad because it gives women the impression that sex with men is without consequence when that is not true. I also believe that the risks of pregnancy have been too minimized.

No. 1610778

>>1610774
Why would she be bitter and jealous of THAT? KEK.

No. 1610779

>>1610775
Based asexuals. Human biology is disgusting in general, it's not just about my body, but bodies in general. Sex is degrading, especially het sex, it's the lowest form of energy in the universe kek. Just the mere fact the demiurge designed our sex organs to be right next to the holes that shit and piss come out is a sad joke. I don't care it's natural, nature itself is evil

No. 1610782

>>1609715
Lowkey based

No. 1610785

>>1610779
The femcel thread might appeal to you

No. 1610791

>>1610720
exactly, it's derailed stupidly and in a strange way. i suggest you come to cc's gangstalking thread, it's never derailed.

No. 1610801

>>1610720
Gangstalking is absolutely real and people trying to pretend it's all just schizos don't realise they're being lied to. And you're completely right that it's weird that random abortion bs infighting is happening when you're discussing gangstalking.

No. 1610803

>>1610785
Femcels are involuntarily celibate, I'm a volcel. Women unironically degrade themselves by fucking moids.

No. 1610804

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No. 1610827

>>1610804
You're either a moid or male identified.

No. 1610849

>>1610827
She's right though. Cry moar about stupid female sluts and some weird cosmic energy shit kek

No. 1610855

>>1610849
I don't call women sluts, I'm simply pointing out sex with moids is degrading. Also, handmaidens like you and >>1610804 usually refer to unwanted women (so you can feel better than them), I get lots of attention from moids, and the ones you would call 'quality', but I simply don't want them

No. 1610860

>>1610855
I am in an extremely long term relationship. We neither want kids ever and I’m extremely tokophobic, I’d kill myself if I had to be pregnant and stay pregnant, I’ve already attempted seriously over way less life altering things. I love PIV even more than my partner does, he’d probably be fine with bjs and eating me out but I’m not fine with that at all. Saying we should never do my favorite and most pleasurable sex act because you think having an abortion is irresponsible or horrible is just so backasswards. He’s getting snipped but the waiting list is like 8 months long and it costs more than an abortion (which thankfully I’ve never needed, pull out method has never failed us).

No. 1610887

>>1610801
>And you're completely right that it's weird that random abortion bs infighting is happening when you're discussing gangstalking.
NTA. It is weird and it keeps happening across this site. I've noticed for a while that when certain topics are discussed there's often an anon that disagrees or just straight up starts a infight. It's always the same, using insults, repeatedly accusing the other side of saying something they haven't and never presenting a coherent counter argument. There's something sinister and bot like about it. Anyone would think that LC is too small of a site to bother with but I guess not.

No. 1610903

>>1610855
Ayrt but then"no u" tactic you do is embarrassing. You have the most moid-like opinions yet try to call others these things. You are the kind of person to prove the horseshoe theory right, misogynistic as fuck trying to say you're actually feminist.

No. 1610910

>>1610887
I’ve participated in both the sunscreen and abortion “infights” but I also 100% believe gangstalking is real and am not making an effort to derail it away from that. I just don’t really have much to add to that conversation besides thinking that I’m most definitely not a victim of it. Maybe they’re too scared to fuck with me since I was in the GATE program and they tried to aggressively headhunt me for the Air Force academy when I never even applied.

I wonder if they used stuff like GATE to assess what kids with psychic abilities would be good to fuck with and which of us should absolutely not be fucked with.

No. 1610914

>>1610860
>pull out method has never failed us
Anon I agree with you but…

No. 1610916

>>1610653
>>1610801
>>1610887
Hehe, chaos, right. It's all they do, on every situation. The only solution it's strengthen the spirit, because we live in a spiritual war (so, pray) Be careful what you consume, visual/auditory media is powerful. Your senses are how they get you but depriving the senses would also let you more vulnerable to their influence so it's a doble edge sword. Always remember what is good and bad, what is the order of things and the meaning of words. Form a community that you can love, no one is saved alone. It's the only way, sorry if i sound cheesy, in my defense if i do it's literally their fault because they they altered the meaning of «cheesy» kek.

No. 1610933

>>1610860
I think you wanted to reply to someone else, retard?? I'm not the anti abortion-chan

No. 1610935

>>1610903
I never said I'm a feminist, I'm a separatist.
Moids actually think women should have sex with men. I think it's bad for women as a class and one of the reasons why we will never get liberated. Where's the similarity? I don't see any.

No. 1610941

>>1610933
But there is no anti abortion-chan in this thread. No one has suggested that abortion should be banned.

>>1610935
Oh wow, you're the tard that shit up /2X/ by calling women sluts, cum guzzlers and cock breath.

No. 1610944

>>1610941
Actually I'm not her, never called women sluts, she was quite based tho, I understand her anger, when you see literally nothing gets into women you can feel powerless and start spewing insults, it's natural.

No. 1610967

>>1610935
The similarity is that moids see women as tarnished when they have sex and see sex as inherently degrading to women, when it's something natural and isn't degrading for either gender. No use talking to you though, you're too far gone in your self imposed misogyny.

No. 1610995

>>1610946
Where do you people come from? /r9k/?

No. 1611027

>>1610967
>It's natural durrr
Nature is fucked up and full of rape, even bonobos you retards call "matriarchal" have boy moms that allow their sons to sexually coerce females. You know nothing, you're too far gone in your handmaidenism. You will always see the world from your knees.

No. 1611050

I have a conspiracy theory.
The Ukraine war was started on purpose by the USA.
THe elected Ukraine president was an OTAN psyops that on purpose provoked Russia so that the US and Europe could pump their military equipment sales and so that the big oil could increase the price of petroleum due to the fractured Russian supply.

Notice how no one wants to talk about stopping the war, that's because it's generating fucking billions of cash no stop so there's no incentive to control it.
That's also why the USA is so into trying to start another proxy war with China, the profits would be insane.

No. 1611057

>>1610803
>Women unironically degrade themselves by fucking moids.
you sound like a cathtrad moid

No. 1611060

>>1611050
>Notice how no one wants to talk about stopping the war

that's because pootin is a literal warmonger retard and he has lupus and is probably dying in the next decade. he wants to leave a legacy of SOMETHING and the easiest thing (or what he thought that was the easiest) is to annex ukraine into russia, but he didn't expect they would actually put up a fight. there is a reason every single country bordering russia is on NATO, nobody wants to be part of it ever. russia fucking sucks.

No. 1611064

>>1611050
>Notice how no one wants to talk about stopping the war, that's because it's generating fucking billions of cash no stop so there's no incentive to control it.
exactly this and a lot of virtue signalling possibilities for "muh progressive" euro countries who oh-so-much "care" about ukraine (most didn't know where it even was in 2021 and earlier)
money > people (both ukrainian and russian) for them

No. 1611074

>>1610791
Never been on CC before, but I just checked and saw that they have an /x/ board and I'm already sold. I'm about to read the gangstalking thread now. Thanks for the tip, nona.

>>1610887
After that weird Miles Mathis guy shilling his theories in this thread, I've looked at lolcow differently. Like maybe this place isn't as niche as we'd like to think.

>>1611050
Zelensky is an actor who played a fictionalised Ukrainian president prior to his election. The whole thing seems fishy to me. Like maybe he's just on his lil world tour with his begging cup out to keep the military industrial complex filthy rich. On a ridiculously petty note, I cannot take that man seriously in his lil GI Joe get up. I get that his country is at war, but it's not like he's out there fighting for his life in a foxhole. Typical manlet behaviour tbh.

No. 1611101

>>1611074
>Typical manlet behaviour tbh.
I'm glad we can agree that Zelensky is a fucking clown. I feel so sorry for ukranian people. It's always an ex comedian too, why the fuck so they turn out to be such edgy manlets?

No. 1611113

>>1610720
I will never encourage obvious schizos who have a chance of harming themselves or others, but gangstalking is real, especially cyberstalking as it's super easy to use plausible deniability and other people's naiveté of what you can actually do online to continue to abuse someone. One thing to remember is that on a lot of darker 4chan adjacent boards over the last 15 years, and on darkweb, there are entire guides and discussions on DARVO and how to manipulate, control, and hurt women, children, whatever victim you want. I mean whole detailed manuals, discussions, etc. So while there are people that come forward and snicker about the idea of gangstalking because they think its just schizophrenia and self importance, there is an entire thriving underground community of scrotes that get their rocks off of scaring vulnerable women or children using hacking tools and other means. You can pay people to do this as well. You don't have to be special or important or even interesting to be a victim. It doesn't make you a chosen one of the messiah or something, its just fact that abusive males are now conglomerating in hidden online communities and they like to hurt people without consequence and will help others do it. Do any of you remember Pinkmeth? Anon-ib? Just because those sites went down because women killed themselves doesn't mean that the communities didn't move to a more private, vetted, and subscription-based community.

No. 1611115

>>1610728
This is a very likely theory. If people knew how much private data your phone really stores and shares and how easy it is to intercept and save, they would burn the thing.

No. 1611248

>>1611027
You sound underage, edgelord.

No. 1611260

>>1611113
Holy shit I never heard of Pinkmeth before, and apparently it's a revenge porn site WITH CONTACT DETAILS TO THEIR VICTIMS? Jesus Christ someone needs to do this shit to adult men so they can feel what it's like to be violated.

No. 1611279

>>1611050
this isn't even a conspiracy at this point. even normies are calling out how much money is being pumped into a backwater eastern european shithole that previously most people only knew of as being a mail order bride pipeline or somewere rich white americans went to get blonde, blue eyed babies.

>>1611113
stuff like this is the reason i've become more cautious about using social media as i get older. normies think you're crazy for not having your face all over everywhere, but then of course cry and moan when they get their identities stolen, deep faked, or just bullied. many years ago, when i was around 12-13, i found out my old youtube handle had appeared in one of those darvo/gangstalking 4chan moid groups and i still don't have a clear idea why. i think they confused me for someone else but i legit remember every comment i left on youtube, within 5 minutes i was getting harassed by strangers. it didn't stop until i asked them and they apologized and admitted they likely confused me for some one else. so many of the things they said to me were horrible and i could see how it could drive someone to hurt themselves. also who is to say that the government isn't experimenting on people online? there's evidence of this going on even now.

No. 1611280

>>1611260
A lot of oldfags are never shocked by what they find out about just how far men push the envelope in violating people online, but I've noticed a lot of younger anons outright denying the idea that all technology is extremely easy to exploit and men really are as evil as you can read in /nosleep posts. I think if the younger anons grew up in the same online environment us oldfags have, it wouldn't be so hard for them to stomach. All of these sites and communities still exist and contain more legitimately abusive information than ever, you just have to bring your own content and prove you're 'one of them' to get in now. It's an easy to maintain market because there is too much going on for investigators to be concerned with individual women or of-age victims, they are already exhausted trying to cull child sex trafficking and creators/distributors. Its really fucked up.

No. 1611284

>>1611260
You can't, they start killing people.

No. 1611297

>>1611279
> i found out my old youtube handle had appeared in one of those darvo/gangstalking 4chan moid groups
Where do they talk to each other? discord?

No. 1611298

>>1611297
this was in like 2008-2009, so it was usually on a message board or hidden imageboard. i just searched my handle on google and i saw them talking about me, screenshots of comments (some of which were not mine), etc. i have no idea where they do this now.

No. 1611304

>>1611298
Private discord groups used to be the go-to in like 2017 to 2020 but paranoia moved them to places like telegram or signal but the most popular places are dot onion. They teach others how to join anonymously without being tracked etc.

No. 1611390

>>1611050
I agree… to he honest I think Ukraine should not be in NATO. I absolutely think Putin is wrong for doing what he does. But understandably if Nato is closing in on him he decided to act. In order to keep the peace, the NATO talks should have never started. Now Ukrainians are dead (and Russians) when instead they could just be disgruntled about their neighbors. Putin should not have invaded. But his bottom line was clear in order to prevent the invasion…he straight up said no talks of Ukraine being allowed in NATO or I will take that as a threat and retaliate..
And he made good on his word. I feel that for the USA, we woild invade Mexico or Canada if for some reason either of those made a war alliance with China. If that happened it would absolutely be taken as preparation for conflict. This whole thing is awful and I hate that we keep hearing how the US isnt fighting the war, no boots on ground, we are just helping Ukraine with their bully like the rightous virtuous nation we are but are not actually sending Americans there so it cant be considered America v Russia….but America has just outsourced their battlefield field deaths instead of remain out of it entirely which would actually save lives, and actually be closer to 'righteous' even if it isnt exactly fair to Ukraine what Russia wants. Putin WILL react and no one can change that. Its like deciding to build a mobile home near tornado alley….and being pissed that a tornado blew it down. Fair? No. Devastating? Yes. Preventable? Well the tornado is shitty but you know that building a strong concrete foundation rooted deep in the earth will improve your chances of the tornado not affecting you…it isnt fair but that is the circumstance of the landscape. People a dying because, imo, the usa just really wants to both piss Putin off and fund its own economy while crippling others. Idk if people realize it but the American economy is more fragile than ever, and will continue on that path. America wants access to the abundant resouces in Ukraine and will get it in exchange for this help in the war. Like how in Taiwan the USA is buddy buddy 'we got ur back because freedom and virtue!' But are planning a military base stationed there in exchange for the 'help'. Of course China is pissed. Doesnt mean I think China has it all right and good either but their military demos and warnings/tension is absolutely understandable. I think the US is planning a future agricultural mass export from the access to Ukraine's land once the war is over in order to feed its own citizens in a more cost effective way, to further mask how strained the whole system is.

No. 1611398

>>1611390
Completely agree, and on the China thing I'm pretty sure the CIA has also been paying ex-China influencers to become anti-China influencers planting lies like "Muh China is spraying mountains with green paint" when they are actually using hydroseeding techniques.
They are trying so hard to pretend China is the big bad and that all the Chinese investment in developing nations comes from nefarious reasons so that they can get enough popular support to wage a war against China.
I'm so done for real, like 90% of the dictatorships in my continent were implanted by CIA and the USA still dares to say they are the protectors of world wide freedom.
I hate this dystopia.

No. 1611426

>>1609222
there's a book on the early dalkon shield iud's and how the side effects the women were experiencing were covered up. Hormonal birth control isn't safe either, of course fucking with your hormones isn't safe, there's plenty of research on it, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence from other women, which is probably worth more than studies done by men funded by questionable parties. Everyone gets mad when you point out that BC isn't good for you tho claiming you want to stop women from having sex.

condoms are fine, tracking your cycle and maybe avoiding sex all together around the fertile window if you wanna be extra safe.
There's also those - idk what they are called in english -female condoms?dams? that you can cover the uterus opening with, and you can use spermicide with it, so using both of those kinds of condoms could help, it's more trouble than a pill or iud but definitely worth it if you have bad side effects from birth control, or family history of some cancers, my moms doctor said her cancer was likely a result of birth control, synthetic hormones can be bad, tranny or not. Can the copper iud cause copper toxicity? A zinc-copper imbalance seems to be involved in some "mental" issues.
>>1610644
really you're wishing rape on other women?


and before someone misreads what i wrote, no i'm not against abortion or women having sex, i think there should be better forms of contraception that don't harm women's health. Pointing out birth control is harmful doesn't mean i want it taken away, but women should be better informed, there's plenty covered up with all these studies proving their safety, like the dalkon shield iud cover up.

>>1610860
why not use physical barriers if it affects your mental health so much? You would kill yourself if you got pregnant but a condom is too much?
>Saying we should never do my favorite and most pleasurable sex act because you think having an abortion is irresponsible or horrible is just so backasswards. pull out method has never failed us

Having an abortion when all you do is the pullout method is in fact irresponsible

No. 1611439

>>1611050
my views are that tptb already control all these countries and the wars are just to keep the people scared all the time. The wars are good for displacing people, stealing their land, homes, possessions, causing issues in countries where people are forced to escape to etc, they can also create a food crisis with this since ukraine produces so much of the world's wheat. I think those in power in different countries work together because the wars are beneficial to them, but they're all buddies in reality.

>>1611060
plenty of us don't want to be part of russia or NATO

>>1611074
a few presidents have been actors haven't they? i know some of the american ones were actors too. He's definitely not actually playing any part in the war or risking his life, he's just forcing his people to go die. Plenty of those men would like to just leave, they would rather keep their lives and live under either power than fight for this asshole or another.
I find the hatred towards russians on social media wild, people speak of them as if they re subhuman, literally nazi tier rhetoric that they are somehow different from other humans, as if the average person has any say in what those in power do

No. 1611505

>>1611426
I’m allergic to literally every barrier method and they give me raging painful yeast infections

No. 1611506

>>1611398
nona a lot of the anti-china hate is not entirely unfounded. people are not just making up all those stories about the goverment disappearing people for speaking up about any and everything, their social credit system, them literally drilling peoples' doors shut during the height of covid. there are plenty of dissidents who have left the country of their own free will and i doubt they are all paid shills from the usa government, to all say the same thing, to all have the same issues time and time again pop up. just look into their history. and i'm a burger, i know our country is weird and we do a lot of terrible things globally and i get that people are angry with us for how much power american and the american culture has, but i'd much rather the usa be the dominant geo-political regime than china. sorry not sorry.

No. 1611511

>>1611505
I believe you but I think you should look into it further for your own benefit. Latex cannot give you yeast.

No. 1611520

>>1611506
There must be corruption there too. But the US/western government has absolutely been doing shady shit to make them look bad. USD is the GRC and Yuan is a huge thread as China has the physical resources to become the dominant global financial power one day. This doesn’t matter to normal people (except it does) but it’s a WWIII level threat to America

No. 1611530

>>1611520
yes, i understand. i see how the usa is manipulating the narrative around china…yet at the same time i am not entirely unsupportive of it as i do not think a world dominated by china's self-interests is a world that anyone would want to live in. only time will tell, i guess.

No. 1611549

>>1611530
Burger anons are so brainwashed to actually believe the USA being in power is a net positive in the world

No. 1611558

>>1611549
i never said it was a net positive. but i am also not going to continually shit on my country for a bunch of insecure foreigners just because a few people from some other parts of the world, who have never even left their little shithole of a no name state, think that another equally horrendous imperalist regime is somehow going to make everything ok just because they're too uneducated to see the propaganda being shoved down their throats. die mad.

No. 1611563

>>1611426
NTA but the copper IUD absolutely can cause a copper/zinc imbalance but the only people who insist this can happen are women who’ve experienced it. I got mine 10 years ago when I was 19 and really wanted it to work out for me but had it removed after two years due to side effects. My periods were always no biggie but with the iud I had terrible cramps, nausea, and extremely heavy flow that never eased up. I’ve always struggled with acne but it became really bad and hard to control with the iud. People always act like I’m nuts when I insist I had very high copper levels but it was measurably out of whack. I do wonder if they lie about how effective it is because my sister’s bff at the time had a Paragard for about a year prior to us getting ours (she was the one who convinced us to get it because she said her periods were only a bit heavier) and actually got pregnant with it still in place. Like an actual viable pregnancy, not ectopic, and she had the baby. The same doctor inserted all of our IUDs and will only insert them with ultrasound guidance so it was definitely in properly.

Oh, it also changed my vaginal odor in a way that made me very self conscious but luckily that went away almost immediately after having that bastard removed.

No. 1611616

>>1611563
Zinc deficiency causes acne and copper overload causes zinc deficiency so that makes perfect sense

No. 1611624

>>1611505
Please make sure your boyfriend actually is on that waiting list and does get the snip ASAP because if you're not on bc it's not a matter of if but when unless one of you has fertility issues or you don't have sex that often. Abortion is the easier option vs having a kid but it's an experience you don't want. A lot of men are weird and dishonest about it even if they're staunchly child-free.

>>1611563
I have browsed r/birthcontrol on reddit pretty often and it seems people are constantly getting pregnant with Paragard. I think it's definitely underreported/official stats they give mislead people. If there's a post that says "I got pregnant on birth control" it's 90% going to be Paragard.

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No. 1611903

legitimate question to nonnies arguing over birth control: why go straight to sex and not the use of BC to control period symptoms? what do women like me do in this case?
i don't like using BC but I don't know what else to do, especially as a no insurance poorfag where a $100 doctor visit and $20 pills is way more affordable than a bunch of tests costing more $$$
my issue is severe (i'm talking really severe) moodswings and backpain that i'd have to leave grocery shopping, work, anything to go lay down until it passes. throwing up, severe cramps for first 2 days, etc. this is genetic because my mom and sister have had the same period symptoms, but they never communicated to me about it so i have no idea what was actually wrong with them. bc is unironically life changing for me, even though i'm terrified of what i may be doing to my body i'm more scared of going back to the pain. i'm kind of annoyed bc always leads to anger over casual sex and situations like mine are quietly ignored.

No. 1611911

>>1611903
I know how you feel, nona. I have PCOS and take birth control for my heavy periods as I have a pretty bad case of anaemia and my periods were leaving me zombified. No amount of iron supplements were helping me, and I also had horrendous cramping and back pain; which I really can't stand as I already have spinal stenosis. Women like us are swept under the rug in these discussions. On the one hand, I am very wary of what long-term BC use is doing to me; particularly my hormones. But on the other hand, if I quit I'd basically be out of commission one week per month.

No. 1611912

>>1611563
ayrt give it a couple decades when new birth control methods appear and suddenly they will start admitting it can cause copper toxicity…it's no secret that study results are often manipulated, i trust what other women say, we know what we are experiencing and the medical establishment is always disregarding what we say. The dlakon shiled iud i mentioned also was poor at actually preventing pregnancy but they covered up those results, i doubt they have stopped doing that, there's some scandal every year about this or that medication or chemical in use that had the research on it suppressed. I only recently learned about PFAS in mascara

>>1611903
i had suicidal depression every time before my period, i used bio-identical progesterone, and end up suggesting it to my friends and they said it helps them too. It also seems to have fixed my seizures because i haven't had one in years. There's lost of negative studies on progesterone but they generally use synthetic progestins that are structurally different, so not telling randoms to necessarily take that, but it might be worth looking into i guess, it's popular on some alternative health forums, i've used it for ~10 years.

I followed this guys ideas, the website layout is a mess he died recently https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/progesterone-summaries.shtml but he was a cool guy that focused a lot on women's health. Supplementing bio identical progesterone will probably a very controversial suggestion with fellow science nonnies tho, i love it… everyone always gets up in arms when you suggest it but they don't do the same when the majority of women use synthetic estrogens

No. 1611915

>>1611911
here's a link to his book i think it's ok to share a dl link since they haven't been available for sale in ages https://www.annas-archive.org/md5/97c25c1ac56b43df4a31355fc8125907
and this other article is interesting too but like i said his ideas are controversial, i haven't gone wrong with following them so far tho, i find a lot of research supporting his views is getting published lately.
https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/progesterone-deceptions.shtml

No. 1611933

>>1611911
Thanks nonnie I appreciate you, I also understand with the back pain. i think i have mild scoliosis that again was never communicated to me due to neglect and that worsened the back pain with periods x10. so glad i'm not alone. same as you if i quit i'd be in trouble and women's health is not getting any special attention any time soon.
>>1611912
that's interesting, i have suicidal depression after my period which is weird. i think i have to up my dosage after taking bc for 2 years because i feel some of the symptoms coming back. do those supplements help with the physical symptoms too?

No. 1611936

Any nonnies taking hormonal birth control or who have hormonal IUDs or implants should make sure they’re supplementing with the minerals that these hormones will deplete, in addition to taking supplements like choline and cinnamon so you don’t develop high cholesterol/blood sugar.

No. 1611938

>>1611933
they helped me but i never had extreme pain like you do so i don't know if it would be effective for that, the other women i talk to reported back on mood improvements but i didn't ask about pain unfortunately. Googling "bio identical progesterone for period pain" does show articles claiming it helps with pain and endometriosis so you might want to look around and see if women with your issues had improvements from it.
>>1611915
aslo was meant as a response to you i clicked the wrong nonnie sorry

No. 1611942

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>>1611915
>>1611912
This dude seems like a dumbass
>he encouraged people to eat ice cream and drink Coca Cola
Like wtf

No. 1611946

>>1611942
>cholesterol denialist
Me eating cheese bread right after getting high cholesterol in my last bloodwork

No. 1611947

>>1611942
he was more of a commie/socialist and old school feminist so idk what the right wing shit is about. All of these points are taken out of context. What the hell is a cholesterol denialist lol, i've seen him say high cholesterol is often high in hypothyroidism and treating hypothyroidism rather than the symptom(high cholesterol) itself is more helpful, but that isn't even his idea originally, but a doctor's, Broda Barnes.
Most of "his" ideas on diet is just people taking stuff he says out of context and coming up with a weird diet, he talked about what he eats sometimes and it's normal stuff not coke and ice cream. Also don't call the love of my life a dumbass. I did say he's controversial though, his ideas worked for me. He was a really kind person, even if you don't like his ideas/conclusions a lot of his criticism of the medical establishment is good. I see more popular biochemists nutritionists etc take his ideas they just don't mention where they got them… But like i said, controversial so i expected people won't like it, still i love him he was such a kind guy even if he got some things wrong.

No. 1611949

>>1611942
Maybe look into what he actually said. RationalWiki kek.

No. 1612053

>>1611807
interesting material, godawful site. adblock only

No. 1612152

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I posted this in the another thread but I think it fits better here, the radical feminist activist and biologist Renate Klein talked about going as far back as the late 1970s, male scientists and researchers, who were well funded by backers with questionable motives, invested millions of dollars and years of resources in trying to create an artificial womb, essentially going against nature itself. They did this Instead of focusing on research to make natural births easier and safer for women. Klein also suggests that these fruitless attempts were driven by envy towards women to create life. One wonders what inhuman experiments these bastards are willing to commit for their "science".

No. 1612217

>>1612152
i wouldn't be surprised if they're still working on this, they can very well have technology we don't know about and already attempted it, if you raise them exactly how you want from day 1 you can create perfect obedient people. So many researchers are immoral, kinsey was brought up in the pedo thread in snow, he had sex offenders sexually stimulating new born babies 24 hours a day to prove children are sexual… and he still gets treated like a respectable scientist.

I know a lot of feminists like the idea of artifical wombs thinking it will free us, but i think it would just lead to more misogyny, cause the only use they will see in women is for sex, you don't really need to keep women healthy mentally or physically if all you want to do is exploit, rape and abuse them, but if you need them to produce kids you need to keep them somewhat healthy and happy. I think things could get even more dystopian if this becomes possible, kids with no parents and no one to care for them are better for pedos too..

No. 1612239

>>1612217
As klein said, the desire for artificial wombs is driven purely by misogyny. it's not within any realm of possibility. but, many men still try to pursue it because they can't get over the fact that women create life and that they themselves came from a woman. Its purely an ego thing.

No. 1612340

>>1611398
Ayrt I know China is shady af and doesnt care about its citizens wellbeing more than necessary and does awful things but I also believe there is obvious propaganda stirring up anti china hate in the US. Remember when the covid conspiracy people back in 2020 kept saying it was a lab leak and that kept getting downplayed as impossible? I personally dont believe the lab leak theory never did but it was really insincere for CDC and covid origin investigative parties to not include that as a hypothasis. Every avenue should be tested reguardless of how probable or not probable (unless genuinely impossible due to laws of nature) to be able to say a thourough investigation has been done. Then, I think in 22 a bunch of heads of state departments come out and say the lab leak theory is possible but no consensus made on if it did or did not come from a lab leak (paraphrasing) but an investigation is coming. At that point why bring it up? It was right around when tensions began flaring up again with the taiwan situation and trade issues etc, like suddenly they wanted the public (most of whom had already made their choice of covid origin story be it wet market, some dude at a bat, lab leak, bio warfare etc) to remember how shifty China is, and actually they could have maybe leaked it who knows, to yeah it mightve been a lab leak, but proooobably not biological warfare related, and so on. The timing was so suspect imo. If it did or did not come from a lab idk but the way the information was handled was absolutely to help nudge anger disgust towards China. Currently the US and China tensions are continuing further. The US gov is slowly softening the people up to war (last resort) or some sort of economic offense against China that would seem unfair, except *look at horrible commie China they deserve whats coming to them!' And the Chinese citizens are stuck suffering both their own govts wrongdoings and propaganda as well as the effects of the US's.

No. 1612351

>>1612239
Yup. Artificial wombs are a monumental waste of funds and resources and could never give birth to a healthy baby without consuming someone else or their bodies reserves to depletion. It's medical cruelty with no real gain, there are so many children that need homes and families and they are abandoned because of the selfish need to continue your genes. I respect no one who turns to surrogacy instead of adoption.

No. 1612367

>>1612217
What is the link to the thread mentioning kinsley? I recall his name from somewhere

No. 1612374

>>1612152
Artificial wombs are pure agp autistic fantasies and so incredibly retarded. The elites fund it because they love going against nature but in fact they don't even need it, they just use breeders and braindead women as wombs. Everytime you read something optimistic towards it's just agp cope.

No. 1612381

>>1612239
If you care this much about it you're a tradthot.(bait)

No. 1612383

>>1612367
You probably recall his name from the kinsey scale of sexual orientation >>>/snow/489545

No. 1612389

>>1610616
Search ‘Clinton body count’ on search engines that are not Google.

No. 1612396

>>1610860
Have you ever considered getting your tubes tied or cut off?

No. 1612397

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No. 1612404

>>1612396
I have but it’s 1) very expensive and 2) I have a condition that would make recovery time double and it’s inherently dangerous for me to go under general anesthesia

No. 1612406

there's always a derail when graphene oxide is mentioned.

No. 1612417

>>1611558
Murrica is da best, amirite?

>a bunch of insecure foreigners just because a few people from some other parts of the world, who have never even left their little shithole of a no name state

Totally not sounding racist or imperialist at all.

No. 1612422

Parents who are able to support their children but refuse to do so and their adult children turns to sex work for money should be put to death. Fell into a rabbit hole about fucked up french cinema and learned about this tragic woman. Her life story is unbelievably sad. I hope her stupid rich parents realize they are 1000% at fault for her having to debase herself for money and her subsequent suicide. Karen Lancaume is her name.

>https://lostgirls.home.blog/2019/12/10/karen-lancaume-a-tale-of-suicide-sex-and-violence/

No. 1612428

>>1612404
Dang, I’m sorry to hear that about your conditions but they seemed like better alternatives. Hopefully your partner’s snipping goes well to not worry about future children.

No. 1612595

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>>1612381
>caring about the use and asbuise women and children's bodies mean I'm a tardthot
what are you on about?

No. 1612608

>>1612367
Kinsey was a pedophile sex researcher
http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/2019/01/kinsey_and_the.html

>>1612381
I would love to know this poster's post history because I'm almost sure that it's a bot.

No. 1612635

>>1611439
unless you live on one of the said countries bordering russia you have no business saying you don't want to be in NATO because you know very well what the options are
t. unfortunate russia neighbour

No. 1612688

someone on this board is really intent on convincing others to not wearing sunscreen, the topic has been brought up several times this week. I get if you want to look like a dried prune or get skin cancer on your 50s but don't shill that to other people, please.

No. 1612699

>>1612688
That's me, and I'm fighting the sinister forces that want to make you fear the lifegiving force and first God humanity ever had

No. 1612705

>>1612699
cancer is not a lifegiving force, it's a deathgiving force if anything. gtfo grim reaper I won't fall for your scheme.

No. 1612706

>>1612688
I rarely wear sun screen because of the climate, weather and latitude of where I live. If someone needs to wear sun screen it's dependent on multiple factors. Europeans evolved to be white for reason.

No. 1612707

>>1612706
europeans evolved to be white because there is no fucking sun in europe most of the year. if you don't live in europe or somewhere else COLD, you have no business not wearing sunscreen thorough the year save for cold and dark winter days. you might as well start smoking too if you want to speedrun a carcinoma that bad.

No. 1612708

>>1612705
Fearmongering again, as always
Our ancestors knew the Sun should be praised
Life is completely owed to the Sun and the energy it emits

No. 1612709

>>1612708
do you also praise your microwave or cancerous radioactive waves are only good when they come for free?

No. 1612710

>>1612708
The sun is a scrote, don't worship the sun, worship the moon and the sea.

No. 1612713

>>1612709
If the Sun is so dangerous how come we didn't evolve to live underground
Idiot

No. 1612715

>>1612710
Actually, in my language the Sun is neuter gender and the moon is male

No. 1612718

>>1612715
What language is that, anon? I'm not sure if the male/sun female/moon dualities are based on linguistics but on mythology and the connection between the moon, the eternal femenine and otherness.

No. 1612721

>>1612718
Serbian
Our main God in mythology is actually the god of thunder
There are plenty of female deities but none associated exclusively with the moon

No. 1612736

>>1612710
Exactly, good sun fearing people cover themselves in front of the sun and dance naked in the presence of the moon. Sun Daddy might give us life but he’s also a douche and being around him makes you gross

No. 1612739

>>1612707
>europeans evolved to be white because there is no fucking sun in europe most of the year
That's what I said. There is no reason for anyone in Northern or Western Europe to constantly be wearing sun screen. Sun exposure is needed for synthesis of vitamin D.

No. 1612744

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>>1612739
Have you heard of these handy dandy mfers

No. 1612753

>>1612744
Ah, yes, pay $$$ to block vit D, then pay $$$ to ingest vit D
Capitalist insanity

No. 1612754

>>1612753
Ah yes I’m truly going broke by spending 12 cents a day on a supplement kek

No. 1612756

>>1612753
You sound suspiciously like that one anon who was saying showering often is gross and how they never use moisturizer because it’s a capitalist tool to waste their money and no other animal needs lotion or some dumb shit kek

No. 1612757

>>1612754
It's not about your lack of money, it's about your lack of braincells if you do stupid shit like that

No. 1612778

>>1612721
That's cool, anon

No. 1612785

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SUNTAN LOTION, BOTH OF YOU!

No. 1612797

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>>1612785
Just gonna leave this here. Anti sunscreen chan seems like a literal glowie tbh, derailing the thread with dangerous nonsense and calling everyone who she can’t argue with a retarded consoomer for spending $15 a month on suncare products and vitamin d.

No. 1612799

>>1612713
we literally lived in caves until we learn how to make our own homes, retard

No. 1612801

>>1612635
i am in one of the ex satellite states, i don't want american or russian influences in the country. And since i believe both sides are essentially controlled by the same people it doesn't really matter, they don't protect us from shit.

No. 1612802

My tinfoil is that the anon that is anti-sunscreen is a fed, s/he wants us to stop wearing sunscreen so that we all get skin cancer and (eventually) die. Our futile attempts to cure ourselves will funnel lots of money straight into the pockets of pharmaceutical companies, and the government gets to slowly kill off dissidents, without drawing too much attention to themselves, it’s a win-win (for them anyway).

No. 1612809

>>1612797
>>1612802
You're arguing with at least two different anons.

No. 1612815

>>1612802
The anti sunscreen thing is common among tinfoilers and lots of naturalist hippy types, at least they’re anti commercial ones anyway

No. 1612816

>>1612801
>both sides are controlled by the same people
elaborate on this?

No. 1612826

>>1612802
if you're gonna argue in favour of sunscreen you could at least mention that the vast majority of those on the market are not safe, and tell people to research the ingredients to find a good one. Plenty of the chemicals used in sunscreen have been shown to be carcinogenic in studies and you might be just exchanging your chances of one cancer for another. People are better off protecting themselves from the sun by wearing light but long sleeve clothing and hats, but i don't think complete sun avoidance is healthy, light affects many other things in our bodies.
Here's a random study i didn't bother reading where the scientists are worried about the panic surrounding skin cancer is too extreme and we need a more balanced approach. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2290997/

There are so many carcinogens in our environment, it is convenient to blame it on the population not using enough sunscreen etc, then the companies polluting our environment aren't the ones held accountable. Back when secret nuclear tests were being done in america, they started seeing an increase in various cancers, but they blamed in on the populations habits. Same happened before they admitted asbestos was carcinogenic, they said it was the blue collar people's habits. I'm not telling anyone they should or shouldn't use sunscreen but a balances approach is necessary, sunlight is composed of many wavelengths some of which have a lot of research on their benefits, like red light… some people just get infrared saunas for their house and keep avoiding the sun tho

No. 1612830

>>1612802
A: Shut the fuck up about suntan lotion. B: There are quicker ways to kill people than by telling them to go sunbathe, dipshit. You're right about cancer being good for big pharma, though. At this point, after my own battle with cancer, I fully believe it could be cured if they wanted to; hell, maybe they already know how to cure it but keep it secret. From a business standpoint, you'd be crazy to cure cancer, it makes billions per year. Covid was good for the cancer industry in that it delayed a lot of diagnoses and as a result people are now fighting terminal cancer rather than having it nipped in the bud. So many people I meet in support groups could have been saved. Here in the UK a lot of our hospitals were not as full as we were told during covid and they did nothing. Could've even used the Nightingale centers for suspected cancer patients but nope.

No. 1612835

>>1612816
i wouldn't really know how, i have no proof or clear concise posts i could link, i don't even remember when i started thinking this way. I think they work together, it's beneficial to always have some enemy they can be at war with for both sides, keep the people scared. I know there are books that discussed how during ww1/ww2 both sides of the war were supplied with money/weapons by the same people, then there is america fighting the nazis but importing them for themselves, then there is them using the communist scare as an excuse to fuck shit up in south america. But they are very unified when they need to be, like on covid, the whole world agreed to do the same thing. I figured the various political systems are just them trying out different systems in other countries to see what works best for controlling the people, plus it gives the people some enemy to fight. If you look into the background of these politicians or ideologues you always find some links between people that are claimed to be at odds with each other, funding, family links, friendships, it kinda looks like their public disagreements are just for show.

No. 1612865

>>1612835
to what end though, like there were very clear losers on both ww1 and ww2, Germany was decimated and destroyed in every way.

No. 1612874

Completely off topic, but no matter what I do, if I see the thread pic from a distance I always see the illuminati as Peridot and the alien as Sans. What has 2016 tumblr done to my brain?

No. 1612912

Every time we start talking about interesting conspiracies this thread gets massively derailed. I mean it's blatantly obvious why, but can the glowies sperging about sex take it elsewhere? We're trying to talk conspiracy here.

ON TOPIC…where did the nonnie go that was going to give us details on the inner earth and the secret wars? At least a decade now I've been hearing about secret battles that governments try to cover up. I've heard it relation to the "black goo" mostly.

No. 1612921

>>1612835
The entire world is run by non-human entities. I haven't exactly figured out how though because there's plenty of evidence that multiple sides interfere with us - good and bad. At the most basic level, all government is run by a hidden force that is directly related to the non-human entities. I'd need like a book to go through my research on just this topic alone.

No. 1612945

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Let's talk about tunnels, catacombs and underground structures

No. 1612946

>>1612945
This makes me feel so sick and anxious

No. 1612948

>>1612946
Because of claustrophobia or because of the extension, antiquity and mystery of these tunnels?

No. 1612966

>>1612946
Look it up on Snopes and chill.

No. 1612981

>>1612966
fuck Snopes big time. Who would ever bring that glowie site up in a conspiracy thread.

No. 1612986

>>1612981
Of course you hate that site, it ruins your tinfoiling. But if that anon is actually distressed by something that isn't true, she should check out the actual facts.

No. 1612989

>>1612986
Snopes is funded by the RAND Corporation which is a neocon think tank that thought starting wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Ukraine were a good idea.

No. 1612990

>>1612945
sure nonnie. Who's read about Agartha, the supposed main city within inner earth? Someday when I have the time I want to find an entrance. They are all over, not just in caves. Of course multiple entities live underground including a lizard race. So you have to be extremely careful when exploring. That's of course nothing to say of the vast underground network built by the US government in the past 100 years. You don't want to get caught snooping around there either. I remember listening to a 90s interview on Art Bell's show with a John (forget his last name) who was studying DUMBS and the inner earth. He had come across hologram tech masquerading entrances to underground facilities way back then in 1992-94. I have to imagine it's nearly impossible to find these entrances now if you aren't a meant to.
I've seen a list compiled in the 90s of known entrances and some of them are smack in the middle of cities. Hidden in plain sight…

No. 1612997

>>1612986
NTA but it's common knowledge Snopes is unreliable are you a twitterfag

No. 1613030

>>1612945
Lol I was just reading a us military document about the “threat” of tunnels as superior air power of the US military drives our enemies underground, it was wild I’ll try to find it

No. 1613035

Is there any purpose to premonitions, or the things we see in our heads? Is it just bullshit? Asking because the other night I was trying to sleep after meditating and saw a group of men talking and one of them looked at me. I immediately opened my eyes because the vibe I got from him was utterly evil as if I had seen the devil or something. It was a human man but just a really sinister vibe, like David Miscavige of the Church of Scientology if you need an example ig.

No. 1613039

>>1612945
More proof we were meant to avoid the sun

No. 1613107

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>>1613030
My bad it was an armytimes article:
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/02/26/the-subterranean-battlefield-warfare-is-going-underground-into-dark-tight-spaces/
There area lot of tunnels etc. are out there. I don't really have a conspiracy about them, would be interested what others think. Lot of older cities have huge tunnel systems running under them that date back centuries (Lisbon's aqueducts, for example). Subway systems are all over… we love to tunnel!

No. 1613116

Anything worth knowing about Rotary International? I got to know one person who's affiliated with them (although she doesn't mention it - I learned it because of googling things about her; her husband seems to be more involved but she is probably there as well). Does it have any connection to masonry? Any Rotary conspiracies out there?

No. 1613124

>>1613116
I only have exposure to small town rotary clubs but they appear to be interested in maintaining the status quo since they're all a bunch of rich(er) people who are enjoying the status quo, and honestly they all came off as evil ghouls who think poor people are subhuman

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>>1612966
>shilling snopes in the tinfoil thread
There's newfags who integrate better than you, glowie.

Anyway, has anyone in here heard about that Titanic submarine going missing? After hearing there was a billionaire on board my tinfoil senses were tingling. It's interesting considering that JP Morgan quietly funded the Titanic but cancelled his booking about 12 hours before it took off. A prevailing conspiracy theory is that the Titanic was sunk to take out some very wealthy businessmen who opposed the founding of the Federal Reserve. I'm gonna poke about online and see what I can find out about this Hamish Harding.

No. 1613138

>>1613116
No connection to masonry, it's a civic club. Masonic lodges are an extremely ancient secret society that has existed in various forms over the centuries. The Rotary started recently (comparatively speaking).

No. 1613143

>>1613138
samefagging to correct myself in that "civic" isn't the best word… it's like a business club in which the business owners glad-hand with each other in an effort to ensure they are united in maintaining a strong local business presence in their communities. So they invite local politicians too, and also do charity work to foster good will. It's different in spirit, fundamentally, from a masonic lodge although their actions may be similar (community outreach, local government, etc.)

No. 1613424

>>1612990
I’ve done research on the inner earth ten years ago and found that it is highly advanced while maintaining its natural beauty, the sky is forever in twilight while the lake is warm under the sun. There are other races besides white people who have red or blue skin and everyone speaks/reads in Sanskrit. There’s also dinosaurs and other kinds of species who we originally believed were extinct as well as never-before-seen ones. While their societies and environment sound very beautiful, those civilizations stemmed from the descendants of Cain while those who descended from Seth live on the surface. Unlike the flat earth theories, there’s circumstantial evidence from biblical and other religious texts that speak about the hollow earth.

>>1613133
Trying to eliminate the competition or anyone who opposes the WEF

>>1613138
Probably belonging to skull and bones or trilateral commission

No. 1613700

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>>1612688
>if you want to to look like a dried prune
Go wash your balls or something, you're not wanted here.

No. 1613718

>>1612945
Underground tunnels scare the shit out of me, the fact that they've got so many ties to Satanist cults is freaky as hell.

No. 1613748

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So what's the deal with Obama, he seems to have a more "cleaner" image then most of the former US presidents, but something about him always felt off, like him image almost felt manufactured and I remember reading somewhere sometime back that one of his biggest funders was busted for child trafficking and abuse.

No. 1613805

>>1613424
>everyone speaks/reads in Sanskrit
>those civilizations stemmed from the descendants of Cain
So native semitic peopple speak/read in a indoeuropean language? Sounds like bullshit to me
>>1613748
I'd like to hear any information other anons might have on Obama too. His PR team did an incredible job because even overseas he was extremely liked and Michelle as well. If there's some african-american schizo itt I'd like to know her opinion the most.

No. 1613824

>>1613748
He was most likely born in Kenya. His birth certificate from Hawaii is fake as fuck. A birth certificate that old would have ink splashes from the typewriter, but there were none at all on his. Idk why America has that rule about being born in the US though. As long as they've spent the bulk of their lives living there, it should be fine IMO. But I digress. I remember hearing something about his parents making porn? Or maybe another relative. Not sure if there's any truth to that though, since the guy did attract really rabid detractors. It is odd how clean his image is though, especially for a politician. Here in bongland the reaction to presidents is usually "meh" but people were talking about this guy like he was the second coming; despite him being a nobody outside the US prior to his election. His PR team must've working 24/7.

No. 1613883

>>1613805
That's because they didn't descend from Cain. Cain never existed since that story was an allegory. Those living underground that are human are breakaway civilizations that went under at some point in ancient history. Thousands and thousands of years ago since human history is also much older than is accepted. The Hopi are a well known Native American tribe who had some of their tribe go underground thousands of years ago and never return.

There are also native Terrans, lizard groups, extra-terrestial groups, and interdimensional beings (many can be found under Mt. Shasta).

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>>1613424
>Unlike the flat earth theories, there’s circumstantial evidence from biblical and other religious texts that speak about the hollow earth

Where in the Bible?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1613994

>>1613935
Probably Genesis and Revelations

No. 1614148

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someone posted this on twitter. hmm.

No. 1614152

>>1613824
>I remember hearing something about his parents making porn? Or maybe another relative. Not sure if there's any truth to that though,

his moms naked shoots are easily found

No. 1614155

>>1613748
i think he might have smoked weed one time then felt bad about it.

No. 1614238

>>1613748
Like other politicians, he's a liar. Do you guys think Presidents are nice guys? Dude is a war criminal of one of the highest accord.
Look up "Zbigniew Brzezinski" and go from there. The fact that Zbig endorsed him for election also says a lot.
His foreign policy was evil, not that its anything new of course.

No. 1614249

>>1613748
I still remember when he took a fucking selfie with David Cameron and the Danish PM at Nelson Mandela's funeral. Disrespectful as fuck.

No. 1614263

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>>1612945
>>1613718
>>1612946
There's nothing good that goes on underground. You should look up the history of the Hellfire Club. It's not uncommon for Satanists to literally hide underground. It's really only recently they've been more open.

Also, I hate to invoke Pizzagate, but I was actually on a conspiracy forum before that broke and became public knowledge. If anyone is curious about really early Pizzagate community investigation I can go into more details. I'll never forget the shit that was capped before it exploded and normies ruined it by commenting on the instagrams of the Pizzeria owners.

Something really odd about the old Comet Pizza instagram is they claimed they made some of the sauces in the basement and there was more weird ping-pong tables they had down there. Supposedly children went down there, too. Why would you let a kid into the basement of a pizzaria to play ping-pong? Some people think ping-pong was a code for putting a child between two men. They had unusual "All Ages" parties that lasted until very late at night. It's illegal for children to be out too late alone, so it was a major red flag when we were investigating. After it gained too much traction, they claimed they don't even have a basement. There's still caps of them talking about it in an interview somewhere floating around.

If someone ever asks you to go into an underground tunnel, always make sure people know where you're going. Phones are unreliable underground but most people have probably experienced that. It is how human trafficking happens or worse, just flat out disappearances.

No. 1614266

>>1613748
I swear to God, I remember he had a major donator who was a child sex offender and people just forget about it, even the RW forgot about it.

No. 1614274

>>1614263
I want to know about pizzagate. It immediately became such a clusterfuck to wade through info online because everyone was talking about it and it seems like the real parts got drowned out by noise.

No. 1614281

>>1614263
Weren't the podesta emails leaked around the same time too? I wonder if they were purposefully leaked in order to help them obscure the evidence and to overall distract the public, taking the narrative into their control. It happens when things like this blow up to disproportionate measure, normies normally don't have the brains and intellect to not fuck with this shit because they can't keep to themselves, screaming, shouting when they possibly can to stir shit. This makes me think… of the possibility that a fed covering for the pedos was spying on the forum, noticed that the users were finding out sinster shit about comet, alerted their higher-ups then the fan hit the ground. Higher-ups were instructed by elites to make it come onto popular news/mainstream media. So that it could be le debonked.

No. 1614291

>>1614281
>>1614274
It's difficult to discern what's real and what's fake doctored screenshots and 'proof' circulated so much that people decided it must be real

No. 1614293

>>1614263
Nuh uh, I've heard there's a world going on underground!

No. 1614428

>>1614263
The thing that weirds me out about Pizzagate is that although some of it might be coincidental, I still don't get why there was a pizza place nearby that had the literal triangular spiral symbol well known by the FBI to be used by gay pedophiles. And someone brought up Podesta, his weird paintings of half nude children in BDSM and the fact that he's got toys for children in his bedroom (?) despite having no children is weird.

For the underground tunnels, I've heard all sorts of weird stuff about Blackpool in England having tunnels where people engage in satanic rituals in, but the city denies it despite the various reports, the fact that children have gone missing there, or the fact that known pedophiles regularly visit there including Jimmy Savile who would visit Blackpool every year.

Semi-related but I also saw a YouTuber talk about going to an abandoned WW2 shelter in England, and as he continued on in the tunnel, the writing on the wall got more and more violent with talk about rape and violence etc. until he reached a part where the writing said "point of no return" but he decided to get out asap because it freaked him out. He's not a Youtuber that talks about spooky things so I don't think he would make it up because he just plays videogames.

Also I've heard about the underground tunnels at Denver airport in America being linked to the occult, with well known cases of strange apocalyptic art including statues of literal demons, as well as rumours of masonic ties even before this art was made. Nobody knows who funded the airport, as the organisation that is stated to have funded it doesn't exist and the price is ridiculously expensive at around 5 billion USD when that is way ovrr budgeted.

No. 1614476

I've been seeing people saying the submarine thing is a distraction for something much worse. Any idea what that would be?

No. 1614480

>>1614428
Anecdotal, but I have family in Lancashire and the north-west. My grandmother was in this support group for women who had been sexually assaulted, and she always told me to avoid Blackpool. Apparently a lot of the women she knew from this group had horrific experiences there. She never went into detail, but I could tell by her look she was deadly serious about it. Even during her battle with Alzheimer's she remembered it and any time a female family member would mention a holiday or a trip to the beach, my nan would always say "not Blackpool!". I tried doing some research but didn't find much beyond the giant red flag you mentioned, Jimmy Saville visiting a lot. Could just be that the degenerate entertainers who make a lot of money performing there have created that kind of buzz about the place. But the tunnels give me a really bad feeling.

>>1614476
I think it's a distraction too as it's being massively over-reported. No idea what TPTB don't want us paying attention to, but something's up.

No. 1614694

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I'd saved from twitter some time back and honestly starting to believe it, Superhero movies always revert to the neo-liberal American hegemonic status quo for the entire world, I'm not a tankie mind you but Its not a stretch to say the MCU is perhaps the most effective form of political propaganda for the entire world.

No. 1614766

>>1614694
Superhero movies are military and religious propaganda.

No. 1614999

They’re all dead.

No. 1615013

>>1614694
>>1614766
Most media contains political ideas. It's not always intentional but it reflects the author's own worldview, including politics. People only call it "politics being shoved down our throats" when it's either made explicit, when the people complaining don't agree with the author (especially when it's about identity politics), or when the media doesn't uphold the status quo. It's dumb to pretend that everything except for explicit propaganda is devoid of any and all politics, or that it's lame to point it out. Of course, you can be aware of this fact and still enjoy your favorite media without thinking about it too much.

A lot of American movies and video games involving the military have to be approved by the US Army (if I'm not mistaken). What you're saying isn't a tinfoily conspiracy theory, it's a correct observation.

No. 1615020

>>1615013
Nta — yes the military has to approve any movie showing military equipment and procedures so the film has to align with government messaging to get funding, typically. From what I’ve read.

No. 1615076

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US hunts you down to suck you dry through taxes to sponsor it's own corruption, unironically is number one country in terms of hiding money that moves through it and stored there. So doesn't want you to hide your money offshore but hides their money and goes after yours. Get fucked.

No. 1615585

>>1614476
I saw someone point out that the original titanic sunk before the Federal Reserve was set up. Now this submarine had a tragedy right before the Central Bank Digital Currency is launched. Also its the summer solstice, so pretty fishy

No. 1615768

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Probably outdated but I wouldn't put it out of the question these people have some sort of secret handshakes and signals for each other.

No. 1615779

>>1615585
the federal reserve was started bc of the bank panic of 1907. also, the federal reserve act was based on the aldrich plan which was drafted in 1908, before they even began to build the titanic.

No. 1615791

>>1613748
He handled the 2008 financial crisis poorly. He said one thing to the people (remember Occupy, anyone?) but gave the fed chairman and the other dudes whos titles I cannot recall the go ahead in giving leeman bros and other massive banks blank checks to reach directly into the fed's money printer, then never rose (well insist the fed do so) interest rates his whole term, which felt like a golden age for the economy. He has great natural charisma. I myself learned only this year that he wasnt actually for the 'hold the banks accountable' stance he seemed to really project. I honestly felt betrayed. That and something with chemical weapons in syria but I cannot recall exactly what. I still feel he did a lot of good things as president though. Probably more bad than I know too.

No. 1616156

Someone make a new thread

No. 1616157

>>1615768
"Lion's paw" might as well just be gay sex.

No. 1616158

>>1614428
Nta but I found out not too long ago that my great uncle who was a Free Mason (idk what rank) was a huge sex pest and sexually inappropriate around his niece, who was a child at the time. He would also throw himself at random women all the time despite being married to my great aunt. Any other nonas who know a Free Mason here have a similar experience?

No. 1616206

>>1613748
I have to tread lightly because I don't want to stir up racebaiting moids, but I think he tore apart America racially, especially whites vs. blacks. If you are either of those races living in America, you know exactly what I mean and how hellish it's been here. It happened when he was in office and it has not recovered since then. Not saying the presidents before him are squeaky clean, but it's like Obama set the stage for a fire that got wildly out of control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2Xtqd4Mts
Also Biden is absolutely a pedophile and he has dirt on him. You ever heard the weird quote from Obama that said he'd wire up someone and have them run for office for him so he could have a third term? I think he literally did that with senile Joe. Obama is definitely way more calculated than anyone gives him credit for.(learn2embed)

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>>1616158
I believe one of my stepfather’s coworkers (or superiors?) is a Freemason, he mentioned ‘the lodge’ during their convos at my youngest sister’s quinceñera two years ago. I didn’t eavesdrop but as soon as I heard that phrase I was like “wait, what?” then pretended to still be interested in my food but he didn’t referenced it afterwards. The dude had a mysterious vibe to him and I’m not talking about the dark and brooding cowboy look he wore for my sister’s western themed party either.

I checked to see if my area had any Masonic lodges nearby and we have a ton, the reviews are mostly positive about how kind and charitable they are or how how great their food is except this one.

No. 1616272

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No. 1616525

Dunno how much I can say, dunno if I believe him on everything, but I fucked a Green Beret for awhile who told me some "state secrets". Said we've been in ww3 for awhile and we're just waiting for a reason to make it official, because citizens would panic. He said that China is allowed to have military outposts in America soil "to keep an eye on Chinese expats" but are actually fucking around with polluting our waters and specifically the Mississippi River because China knows we don't actually have the manpower to do anything about it. I think he said there's currently hundreds of Chinese outposts and thousands of chinese troops on American soil. He also said China doesn't view Chinese-American citizens as actually Chinese so they're purposely letting them be sacrifices in trying to start an anti-Chinese race war in America. He said he visited area 51 once and that all the dudes that work there are really full of themselves and love to mysteriously talk in code in front of the troops that don't have that classified info just to show off and that they're all dicks, but that he wasn't allowed to see like 75% of area 51, so no tinfoil on that, I just like to imagine a bunch of faggy army boys in area 51 bullying green berets for not being cool enough.

No. 1616569

>>1616525
I've heard the WW3 thing before, tbh I believe it myself. I think that's why we're being fed distractions like the Titanic submarine.

No. 1616837

My dad is a Freemason. Idk what rank though.

No. 1617049

>>1606852
>>1606862
Referencing my posts bc I feel like it got even worse since I came to my home country. I started to be aware that something feels off like a year before I left in order to work abroad, and I changed my mind last second, because everything was telling me not to go and stay in my country, but I left anyway. It didn't really stop abroad and now when I'm back it's the same if not worse. Or maybe I'm really going schizo? I had severe panic attacks for the last 3 nights during which my hands and legs went literally numb and I was sure I'm having a seizure or a heart attack. I know it can happen from hyperventilating too but I didn't think straight at that moment. Also I never had attacks this severe. Maybe twice when I was 11 and I had actual seizures, it looked similar. One of those panic attacks gave me an actual asthma attack and I don't have my meds here yet so I called an ambulance. Besides meds, they also gave me a sedative injection. I feel like I'm in constant distress. And hearing weird frequencies and feeling tingling in my ears, just weird things. Sometimes I wish that was actual schizophrenia, not being targeted by something or someone.
A few days ago I got weirded out because one of the guys who works at my place abroad is also visiting my home country and he wants to meet wlme, it surprised me because he was planning his vacation later, not in June like me, and he literally came here like 2 days after me. We barely spoke to each other and he constantly sends me messages and tells me we can go on a "road trip" even though I told him I don't have the time because I have a lot of stuff to do regarding my house and doctor appointments. Just a weird guy.
Even if I'm actually targeted, I don't understand why. Is it only because I'm a solitary volcel, I don't want to have kids and my father was in special forces? I'm also a gnostic christian. I'm too autistic to do literally anything threatening to anyone, I can't organize anything, I just want to be left alone. As a kid I had the potential to do many things and some people wanted to connect me to theatre and arts, but I ended up too autistic/schizo to do anything and I ended up not achieving anything "special". Just normal boring life, minus schizo interests. I don't understand why would anyone want to waste their time on me

No. 1617101

>>1617049
Firstly I'd like to say that targeted individuals aren't special. That's a common misconception and a lot of people who don't believe in gangstalking always retort with "what makes you special?" the way I see it, it's like a really shitty lottery. Governments probably like to pick a variety of people to test how different groups react. Military connections do seem to increase the chances I think. At least it looks that way from browsing TI communities. A stepdad of mine was in Mossad so maybe that's how I came to be selected, idk. I just want to let you know that at the very least you're not alone. I keep hearing frequencies too. Like someone is trying to tune into my brain so they can give the V2K messages. I used to panic a lot too, but I'm off my tits on benzos and opioids most of the time now so I'm kinda numb to it. The guy from your work sounds super suspect tbh. It could just be a moid being a moid messaging you a lot, but you have to trust your gut when you're going through this. If your gut warns you to stay away, then stay away. Do you know when he immigrated? If it was after you that makes it even more suspect. The only advice I have is to try and block this shit out and find your fun where you can. I know it's easier said than done, though. Stay safe, nona.

No. 1617118

>>1617101
Nonnie I put my reply to you in the new thread because I'm scared this one will get locked soon



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