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This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping> Ao3 Censorship and TOS> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters> Debates over death of the author> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creatorsRelated threads:
Fujo vs. anti-fujo discourse:
>>1978406Fujocoomer cringe:
>>1959358Previous:
>>2443295 No. 2459690
>>2459686I never understood why they did this shit to daniil who is a total hyper-logical rude autist from the early 1900s who would probably misgender a tranny and tell them theyre an abomination
>>2458911I know jojo is known for having tons of character color palettes but didnt Dio always have orange-brown eyes in the games and anime? i really hate when authors cant make up their mind on important shit like that
No. 2459710
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Have you heard of the AniList cow emporium? That site has been revealed to be modded by trannies who crack down on any anti-trans sentiment (they even banned the use of the word 'trap').
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/anilist.212728/ No. 2460041
>>2459710I’ve been using anilist ever since i got permabanned from MAL years ago, never knew but holy shit kek. MAL had insane individuals but it was never overcensored
>>2459881GUP isn’t really porny though, iirc the creator actually specified to add no panty shots. But this was made by the same scrote who created strike witches so make of that what you will.
No. 2460061
>>2460029But all my jonadio fanart has dio with brown eyes… so its all wrong? this is
triggering my autism so bad help
No. 2460221
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I was pretty neutral on the “should otome games have a gender option” argument but this is so fucking stupid
>actual queer men in mind
Ignoring that this person is an obvious fakeboi, neither would otome even with gender options kek it would bring in more fujos if anything. There’s not even a huge difference in the general structure of BL and otome (minus the obvious) other than BL is far more likely to have R18 scenes.
>cishet women love joining queer spaces
It’s the opposite, I can’t think of any space that’s more straight than otome games kek.
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>>2460221Oh there's stuff for queer men. It's just that it's shit like pic related KEKKKK
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>>2460221The replies to this are actually insane kek. Did they forget that in the early days of fandom it was largely heterosexual housewives who liked Star Trek and made and distributed KirkSpock zines and mailing lists to share fics? What do they think early fandom was like? Stonewall? A drag show? I'm sick of these retards, go play BL or Galge if you cannot stand playing as a woman.
No. 2460284
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>>2460280I mean they do, they’re just usually shit like validate
I can’t deny that there’s some Jap gendies that make kamige like Mamiya though.
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>>2460284>ValidateThis brings flashbacks…
No. 2460355
>>2460343kinda creepy
>>2460348i like both of those things. fantasy genders are fun. a big strong man with a pussy is hot
No. 2460378
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I'm tired of posting this image why cant you monkeys stay in your shitfling containment
>>2460300The same is happening to the date everything datesim too kek the one where you can literally date a toilet
No. 2460434
>>2460412They're doing the same with infinty nikki too I'm sick of posts like these
>I'm a twans man and infinity nikki helped my femininity Yeah no shit you're a woman
>um guys can you stop asking for Male npcs? It makes me uncomfortable as a gay manAgain you have a vagina
>unfold is so bigoted for not having a Male option for nikki!Boohoo based Chinese devs
No. 2460464
>>2460434they always do the "this makes my uncomfy as a gay man [sad face]" thing to guilt other people, not my problem. same with crying about evil straight women fetishizing gay men. based chinese devs.
>>2460441i support that decision as a fujo. you have your games, we have ours.
No. 2460473
>>2460441The another based thing they did was when they banned retarded yumes who were sending threats in game to other yumes
they should've used Twitter retards kek they all got their accounts banned with no refunds kek infold really doesnt tolerate retardation
AND I HOPE THEY DONT ADD THE NON BINARY SHIT TO IN LIKE THEY DID IN SHINING NIKKI No. 2460479
>>2460475NTA but as a
casual arcane fan they deserve it for existing
No. 2460513
>>2460280Because they just like complaining and acting like a
victim. Plenty of indie games (that may as well be and should be otome) have their stupid gendie options but they don't play them because they're dishonest and retarded.
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>>2460257Trap slop is for bisexual and tranny chaser men. Gay men are into bara crap like picrel
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Moids are so braindead and broken
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>>2460221The otome game Velvet Bite has a female protagonist and 3 male + 3 female love interests, and got some poor reviews which I was checking out. This one made me roll my eyes. Indie devs should drop pandering to gendies and drop the LGBT/Amare tag even when trying to cater to the few women who like F/F in their otome games. It just invites an audience that doesn't give a fuck about women.
No. 2460906
>>2460865What the fuck is that nonna
Also from last thread
>>2458911Latest Jojo part had a tranny character and everybody clapped because Araki was incloosive so there you are.
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>>2460284Part of me really believes that this was an elaborate psyop trying to scam gendies out of their allowances. There’s too much explicitly racist shit and all of the NPCs were leagues more attractive than the “datable” options.
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>>2460794There’s actually been a recent rise in TIFs being into barafaggotry but I have no clue whether their interest in it is genuine or if they’re just trying to skinwalk fags. I know one IRL myself.
>>2461056Isn’t there a (black) LI who works at Popeyes, is a deadbeat and gives you his mixtape? Also why are western games incapable of creating attractive darkskin characters when Japanese media can do it just fine?
No. 2461077
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>>2460871Oh I remember that game, Im surprised it even launched at all and assumed it was another doomed kickstarter project. Im a bit disappointed they swapped artists and didnt go through with vaccum's art, seems a bit of a waste to scrap all of the finished assets. iirc most of the review bombing is because many kickstarter pledges never got delivered and people expressing frustration with the art style change
No. 2461264
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The double edged sword of mass produced games lately is that there's so many flooding the market with so many fanservice female characters that they need to make actually interesting characters to stand out. While this gives a surface level of "coolness" and standing out, the issue is that those women are still written by men for men and shallow beneath the surface.
But a lot of women on twitter and else fall for it, because why is there no badass soldier character in girl games? "Don't you see, GFL/Nikke is achually celebrating women and has more interesting female characters." And that's how you get the fangirls who are willing to ignore the loli fanservice and everything being catered to men.
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>>2461264you could have at least posted one of the actual cool gf girls
No. 2461297
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>>2461294most of the well written female character content Ive seen came from other women's oc works. I can see why people would be reluctant to post their oc works to a broader audience, moids are fucking barbaric and sexualize anything. I would kms if I came across deviantart feitsh artwork of my characters, look what happened to ryoko kui's stuff; no amount of world building and characterization saved her female characters from being reduced to coomer tropes.
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>>2461264Latest character in NIKKE by the way. Ofc coomers and handmaidens are celebrating fat representation because at least moids are cooming over cellulite and stretch marks! Even if it's just another moeblob.
>>2461294The well-written female characters by men
>sad>mentally ill>personification of a fetish>sexualized>self-insert but sexualized/coomifiedNot sure where you're seeing the good writing here.
No. 2461307
>>2461297Well she did that herself because the demographic of that work is seinen so her editor makes her pander to waifufag moids anyway.
>>2461301No one is saying that they are well written. In fact, I don't think you should look at anime for well written characters. If you think your favorite husbandoslop character is well written that's pretty much your coom speaking.
No. 2461312
>>2461307Harta, the magazine Dungeon Meshi was published in, seems like it aims for a pretty gender neutral demographic.
It wasn't until the anime that Marcille started getting lots of this sort of sexualization despite having been published for almost 10 years.
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There was already a gachashit with female characters aimed at female fans and it flopped hard within a year. And it wasn't some low quality KR/CH shit, it was funded by Square Enix. Most JP women don't wanna read a glorified ludomania VN with lesboerotic content and that's ok, prob over 95% of JP women are heterosexual and would rather read shotaslop.
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>>2461321Yes, two of the main girls (picrel). They are shipped with each other so it's butchxbutch yuri.
No. 2461326
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>>2461323It is pick-me behavior to engage in d&d and fantasy themed media. Women are only allowed to play animal crossing and cozy games.
No. 2461330
>>2461320Counterpoint: Path to Nowhere exists and also the thing is that it's painful to read female characters in works targeted at women being reduced to blandness.
>>2461327Exactly
>>2461326>>2461329Yes, look specifically at her taste in characters in this pic
>>2461326Zevran and Fenris are the only truly based answers, the elven girls are moidslop.
No. 2461331
>>2461326Liking Solas is a major red flag of shit taste,
nonnie.
No. 2461337
>>2461331>>2461330The picture is just fanart of well known western elves, its not a display of her tastes. Solas and Astarion are labelled as "popular with the fans".
The only ones that I could translate(?) as her outright favourites are Camellia, Fenris, and Sera
No. 2461348
>>2461344No, it was terminated years ago. You might be able to find the story in some YT channel or blog, maybe. But it was never translated.
>>2461346Sorry they aren't 300lb overweight.
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>>2461367
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>>2461367
This thread truly is the honeypot for autists.
No. 2461393
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Tbh sometimes it really seems like the word "pickme"'s usage is getting pretty ridiculous.
I didn't watch pic related, the thumbnail just made me laugh
No. 2461398
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>>2461392Look at the designs, the fanbase takes yuri and feMC as canon and the moids were gated because there's not enough straight man pandering
>>2461396Why are you seething so much? Nobody cares about the male characters and I haven't spent a single cent on these games lol
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>>2461431
>Hetfoids
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>>2461431 was right and she got banned for telling the truth.
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>>2461431
You don't like Nikke, straggot femoid?
Heh… Nothing personnel kid…
No. 2461533
>>2461529I love you
nonnie KEKK
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>>2461519Along the lines:
>you can bitch all you want about female characters being this or that, aimed at coomers etc. but you'll never confront men about any of it off-line or even on-line (even if you are behind 7 proxies), instead you bitch on a female image board; you'll also keep on excusing/ignoring your future husband/boyfriend watching teen porn and even raping kids while you bitch at women liking fictional female characters for being moid fanservice No. 2461572
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Still wish I knew which slop moidbrained nonnie likes
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>>2461546WuWa's new character, who was recently featured in a borderline pornish trailer, where she was eating a cherry suggestively to say the least.
No. 2461597
>>2461572This is why the gameplayfags here are hilarious. There are so many games of every genre like shooters and strategy games and whatnot and you’re telling me this is the one with gameplay so amazing, better than any other game, that you can overlook
that monstrosity and the unfiltered coomerism of moids.
No. 2461611
>>2461605>What is the point of gacha gamesMoney sink
>why are they so popularEasy to get into
>Can't the industry return to having proper games with good stories and charactersGamers don't really like waiting 5 years for the next game, play it for the next 72 hours and keep it dusted in their library forever.
No. 2461621
>>2461605Overwatch, FIFA and Counterstrike did it years ago with lootboxes and crates and nobody stepped up because of money
The big issue is all games transitioning to live service subscription models like spotify or netflix
No. 2461632
>>2461426Where did I whiteknight moid games?
>>2461597Blue archive’s gameplay is incredibly simplistic and easy. Maybe the integration of gameplay elements makes it more enjoyable but LADS has more complex gameplay and those scrotes love to shit on that
No. 2461640
>>2460927>you bitches have just as bad of games as we do! you have period trackers!meanwhile, games for men:
>half-naked loli in a wedding dress with her legs spread openthe cognitive dissonance and mindgames moids will do to avoid accountability for their degen porn addiction is insane
No. 2461722
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Why are k-popfags like this(kpop is a banned topic on lolcow)
No. 2461726
>>2461722Who the hell gets
triggered from a cigarette?
No. 2461759
>>2461605Because portable consoles won't ever be a thing anymore and people (specially asian) want something to play on long train/bus rides. Also the sense of community that comes from reading and discussing story/event chapters together as they come out or sharing gacha rolls with each other, oh and also gambling addiction/sunk cost.
The reason there are so many is because gacha games are incredibly low maintenance and have the potential to have absurdly high returns over a prolonged period of time, FGO is one of the prime examples, during the peak of its popularity it raked in more cash than anything else Type Moon had ever made and probably still does today, and that game was cheap as hell to develop.
No. 2461993
>>2461056As hilarious as that would be, I think Validate is just a bunch of people quadrupling-down in response to criticism for their hokey idea. And some of the characters (like Yolanda and Alonzo) look slightly better in the promotional art
>>2460284 posted than they did in the lineup art.
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>>2461895The game isn't cancelled, I'm playing it and feeling confused by all the reddit raging over the art, it looks great imo.
No. 2462255
>>2461578Its a fun game with good voice acting and story which you can expect since one of the lead writers is an actual woman. You might find it more enjoyable most gachas too. The gameplay is quite in depth so its not actually an AK clone. The game anniversary is close so this is a good time if you wanted to start. As for the fanbase, you might see the usual suspects on twitter going crazy over drawing/imagining the female characters with penis but the koreans and japanese artists usually dont entertain this idea. Im also sick of seeing Rahu or Deren with cocks
>>2461496She probably thinks women in lesbian medias should be covered up like hijabis. Its not the lesbians fault that moids (and trannies, but im just repeating myself) found the design attractive as well, though there are moids who cant handle some of the womens personalities like Coquelic and Chameleon lol. Chinese incels even reported the game to the government to the point of getting a female character temporarily removed.
>>2461426The ayrt are just trying to be dense for no reason. Its obvious that the character design and artstyle are tasteful and not as pornographic as moidslop gachas. Theyre not a bunch of bootlickers like you said. Not explicitly moid pandering too since theres also the princely/bodyguard type woman that has exclusive dialogue to female MC in her story
>>2461501Lol youre right they will lose their puritan opinions if that is the case. You can already guess their excuses for being like that too
>>2461510>>2461513I wish there are more people like you here nonas. I swear this board lately gets kneejerk reaction whenever yuri stuffs get mentioned to the point of getting homophobic lol
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>>2462228The pink haired one! I don't understand why they made such a pretty FL and then excluded her from all promotional art and gave her no sprite. Self-inserters would mald over her being in CG and non-self-inserters who want to read the story like a romance would mald over her face not being seen during 80% of the game. Still, the funniest thing about the situation is this game being promoted as LGBT+ and the gendies reeing over how it's mislabeled due to lack of twans. Maybe now they realize why LGB and T need to be separate.
Spoilered for cg, forgot to do that last time
No. 2462260
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>>2461077>they swapped artists and didnt go through with vaccum's artSucks for her but otherwise I do not see the downside honestly
No. 2462295
>>2460795You’ve read my mind anon. They know deep down that if they sat down to work together to make a game, it’s gonna inevitably have to look like this
>>2460284 for virtue points. I remember that retarded yansim “overthrower” game where the MC was made into a fat girl, oh sorry, a fat thembie to please the virtue signallers.
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>>2462271The company is under Infold, the creators of Nikki and LADS, so that's why
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>>2462295Oh my goodness, the Love Letter drama! And then the artist who came up with "Bow-chan" threw a shitfit on Twitter and bought a patent for the character so the rest of the team couldn't use her (not that they were any better, I think one of them was a groomer scrote but I might be thinking of something else). Your post just made it all come flooding back to me kek
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>>2462368It's because of people like the crazy sperg in this thread that they have to hide it
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>>2462365>definition of incel panderingI think you got the game wrong lol
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>>2462373Thanks
nonnie for bringing the Asino and Paper relationship to my attention, I found some hella crazy discourse from 2 years ago thanks to it kek. Imagine this much shitslinging based on a virtual outfit design's theme
https://old.reddit.com/r/PathToNowhere/comments/11dxxaq/whats_going_on_in_the_korean_fandom_a_thread/ No. 2462407
>>2459690>I never understood why they did this shit to daniilBecause like that curiously banned anon said, he's the fandom bottom. Everyone loves shipping him with Artemy and everyone wants to fuck Artemy, so there you go.
>>2459710>That site has been revealed to be modded by trannies Yeah, this explains a lot. I remember I tried to get Ryuuji Ayukawa's bio to say that he's male and not non-binary and basically got a couple of stern reprimands from the mods, even after I posted proof of the author straight up calling him male. Also complained that characters like Kino were also being referred to as nonbinary instead of female and the thread was locked after a few people came in to agree with me.
All this happened when I was like 19/several years ago, I swear I'm not arguing with people online about cartoons. No. 2462510
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repost, to better acknowledge some things. I know that Robo Ky was always a comedic character, and that he lost his body in Xrd, but this new retarded toaster design is genuinely annoying me. Alongside the covered up, censored Venom, I know they never would've given us a cute, shippable male duo in this game. They'll turn sexy male characters into ugly waifus (Testament), but won't even let fujoshi have decent ship bait. There were tons of female fans that wanted him to return with a body and a decent design, fuck this game. It's the ultimate fanservice for males, but nothing for female fans. The fandom pretending go eat this up reminds me of the Big Man cope in the Splatoon fandom, kek.
No. 2462526
>>2461398I know some anons look at this and go say "moid pandering" but honestly, the designs aren't so bad.
Yeah they show skin in places like the tummy and boob area but they're more fashionable than coomer to me. They're not doing retarded poses either to emphasize the A&Ts. Comparing it to stuff like NIKKE is like night and day.
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Lmao
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>>2462741god just play the fucking dressup game and do your wish dailies, why does everything have to turn into social or political commentary
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>>2462741I'm actually so glad infinty nikki is Chinese so troons shit will never be added I'm also glad theres also pushback to posts like these by the normies in the subreddit so much so theyre asking the troon mods to lower these attention whore posts I just want to see the new outfits not your mentally ill ass trying to suck her own fake dick
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>>2462871Trying that since even my opps told me "just block xD", but apparently everyone takes it personally and gets
triggered when you start blocking shit you don't want to see. I started mass blocking lolicon and furry porn artists and it upset them.
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>>2459582Yumetwt and yumes in general are the most unhinged freaks I have ever seen. Overtime I go in there they always fight about such nonissue stuff.
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Because of Addy's thread I just remembered something from over 15 years ago. How people first saw this scene and thought it was the dumbest shit ever, but then because Lucky Star is popular in Japan they convinced themselves that it's subversive and funny, because they're such otaku and cute girls doing cute things is the best. Similar with the pantyshot in the first episode of Bakemonogatari, every sane person thought it was dumb, but then people started saying how exactly because it's so stupid and unnecessary it's brilliant. Same shit is still happening today lol
No. 2463658
>>2463274For one of my main fandoms, which has a decent male population of fic authors:
Male Authors:
>genfic mostly is broad or world-focused, if it's about a single character it's usually about them growing in power or otherwise coming out on top of a situation, less interest in internality unless it's an angstier tone. Usually action or adventure.>shipfic is usually het canon couples, sometimes including canon gay couples as a background element. Non-canon ships tend to be the most obvious other het option, not a lot of variation>porn has a weird division from those who write shipfics, and feels more generic, has a weak understanding or amount of attention given to female anatomy or sensation in comparison to a blatant fixation on dicks, balls, and cum, reads like someone trying to describe a panel of hentai. kinks are clearly just there for the author and add nothing else.>prefer crossovers over AUS>fixits are usually re-scripts or otherwise about changing the whole story on a broad level, often more a plot outline than an actual storyFemale Authors:
>genfic is more often about interpersonal relationships/smaller slices of the setting, more interest in internality of the cast involved regardless of tone. Much wider range of genres and points of divergence from canon>shipfics are varied, with much more flexibility in pairings and how they're depicted. More crackships, rarepairs, and levels of how seriously they're treated, and stories will have overlap with the same kinds of genfic female authors put out, following similar situations but with a focus on a romantic relationship>porn is intertwined more with shipfics, and has a better balance of erotic description regardless of if it's het or slash, more likely to include kinks that both appeal to the author and match the characters and tone of the fic. PWP tends to have a less… idk, greasy feel>prefer AUs over crossovers>fixits are usually character or scene focused and written as normal prose, sometimes combined with shipping or not, more about a character being done dirty or a dynamic falling apart/not happeningObviously this is a very generalised list, but they're the trends I've noticed (and may not just be common to the fandom but also the characters I personally look for stuff about kek). Other fandoms I'm in either have no obvious male population of writers, or only have autistic crossover fics and commissioned porn fics that have blatantly male authors, nothing in between. Tims and Tifs also have their own tells that make them stand out from the rest of their sex, though imo tifs can be harder to spot due to numbers and most fic authors being women, but it's usually obvious by tags/kinks, typing styles, and sometimes character choice
No. 2463795
>>2463751if you want to tour a moidy fic environment, trawl through the Metroid series tag on AO3- it's got pretty much all the bad or retarded/embarrassing moid fic writer traits on like, the first page kek
>>2463754maybe, especially when the media involved has some actual link to each other, and there's also the autistic 'mash all the things I like into one place' aspect too for the mega crossovers. Arena fics are then what happens when powerscaling gets involved, I guess.
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>>2463751the first thing that immediately came to mind was the breeding ground by megamatt09 on ao3. one of the highest word count of all hp fanfictions with 2000 chapters of poorly written pwp.
The difference between moid works in hp and women written works is night and day (one thing to look out for is whether they depict Harry as the movie version or book version. moids always chose the movie version for coom)
No. 2464061
>>2463802seconding the TIF vs TIM analysis, the wish fulfillment I've seen is like
>I'm gay and I love you the way you are with your pussy, let's talk through our feelings and become a family togethervs
>lesbian sex, "lesbian" sex with penis, forcefem garbage No. 2464875
>>2463802Okay, here are my observations of tif and tim fic writing traits from across various fandoms, attempting to leave out the most obvious ones like futa or cuntboy– it's by no means exhaustive so anons please add or correct me on anything you disagree with
Both:
>Degradation is a key theme of nsfw in particular, but can turn up in the undercurrent of sfw fics as well. Tifs tend to have the POV character be subject to it, Tims either the POV character subjecting a canon female character to it, or the same as tifs if it's an oc/self-insert>Affirmation and praise is also a common element, in a weird coddling way throughout the entire text. It's hard to describe, but imo you can tell when you're reading it>Generally worse understanding of the sex they pretend to be than most regular male or female writers manage towards their opposite sex>Ego or narcissism– if it's not blatant on the surface of the text, then it comes through the writing in a way that makes the fic feel like it's not for you, a fellow fan, to enjoy, but rather only the author or other trannies in the same clique.>Furry overlapTims:
>Common in rpg and ttrpg fandoms where there is no set player character (eg elder scrolls or dnd), likely to be posting in the original work category as well on AO3>Pretty much just post porn, I don't think I've ever encountered a sfw or genfic that was obviously written by a tim in any of my fandoms– though I have seen male writers that used to post non-porn stop doing so once they troon out>On that note, have never seen them post a work with multiple chapters that isn't a pwp drabble collection>Proofreading is a foreign concept>Will post twitter horny posting threads as fics, won't even bother to expand on ideas or write it out in a way that doesn't read like a frenzied coom thought, as if this is good enough to share across multiple sites>Male characters are either a tool to degrade and punish a female or futa/tim self-insert, or a target of seething>Uses 'yuri' as a tag or descriptor in non-weeb fandoms, while non-tim authors will use other terms like f/f, femslash, or just list the pairing/its fan name in the same fandom>Tags use porn site terminology and are repetitive, will include more fringe or fantastical, deviantart-tier fetishes>Particularly into mindbreak and hypnotism, bimbofication and idk turning into inhuman shit like sex dolls >Redditor prose styles and memes>Feels less like a fan of a character and more their aesthetic>Worst understanding of female anatomy and sensation, ludicrous understanding of orgasms and erogenous zones>Audience is other tims trawling fetish tags, not fansTifs:
>Harder to spot due to numbers and more variation, but the most obvious ones are usually found in current/very popular fandoms with women and not in ones popular with men, gay or straight. Shocking, I know.>Some seem more likely to hop to the next 'in' thing than stick around as well>Writing can be very good due to being veteran fic authors, or can read like a schizo stream of consciousness>On that note, have noticed a tendency to write AUs that are more divorced from canon with minimal initial set up to introduce a reader to it>They coddle and infantilise their favourite/self-insertion target in a way that is kind of cloying and different from regular woobification>Older ones are usually harder to spot and blend in with regular fans, younger ones (either in age or fandom experience) are more obvious>Tumblrisms/twitter jargon in either the tags or prose>Uses the 'author is x' tags more than anyone else ime>Tendency for recent or current online slang/meme phrases to turn up in prose or dialogue, even if that makes no sense>Quirky soft boy bugs dirt frogs snails messy teehee goblin child (and other 'boyish' tweeisms from women who were either never friends with boys or tomboys themselves)>Omegaverse is an obvious favourite, particularly its more unhinged and elaborate variants>Seem more likely to jump on fic trends and bandwagons than other female authors (not saying they don't or can't enjoy them as well, it's more about the adoption speed/trend-hopping aspect)>Prose often attempts to have a strong lyrical or lurid quality, hard to put into words here but it reminds me of tifs favouring religious imagery and theming in their art, an odd attempt at elevating their work or interests. Sometimes outright 2deep4u territory or borderline incoherent>Honestly, many of them can be clocked by the lyrics etc they pull their titles from kek>Themes of cannibalism, gore, dehumanisation, age regression, children/childbirth, discomfort, isolation, acceptance/praise, monstrousness, and sexual exploitation/oppression are common in nsfw and sfw fics>Don't think I've ever seen them take a female character and write her transitioning into a tif, it's always a canonically male character being revealed as having been a tif all along>Pet issue PSAs in unrelated stories or porn>Also seem more likely to write original fiction than other female fic authors, where any pretence of hiding that they're self-inserting or projecting onto a male character is droppedThere's probably more I could list but I think I've sperged enough kek
No. 2465156
>>2463283Nowhere is it more obvious that moids lack a soul than when they try to write fanfic. Women will write absurdly long, emotional character studies and romances, whereas moids only write autistic crossover crap or PWP that reads like a 12-year-old wrote it. I've read fics that are
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind AUs, and
Peggy Sue Got Married AUs. A moid would never do that kek.
No. 2465289
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I'm so sick of headcanons being a literal cancer to all fandoms. I feel like they have always been there but within the past 6-7 years it's been way more intense. It's one of the biggest topics to discuss now, which is insane because it's all unrelated to the source media. Why get involved in a fandom in the first place if you are just going to project your subconscious OC/W onto a pre-existing character/world? I'm not getting involed in a fandom to entertain you, I want to talk about the character/world and what is actually shown in the original source. It's always some gender woo-woo crap and nothing of any substance that's worth any consideration. I wouldn't hate this so bad if it weren't everywhere, in the fanfictions, in the art, the edits, the videos, the debates or discussions. There are so many fandoms that have fallen victim to this and it's very difficult to undo a "fanon" version of things. I used to like participating in fandoms bit this is my biggest gripe and why I just abandoned them in the end.
No. 2465466
>>2465456>its one of those shows where unless you watched it during the time it came out when all the refs and stuff it talks about was relevant, it won't hit hardNTA but I think this applies to a
lot of anime from the same era. I watched Clannad when I was younger and thought it was (mostly) okay, but I tried to watch Air a couple of years ago and gave up at episode one. Many of the "classic" series haven't really aged well.
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Trans “women” doing it for fetish reasons kek
No. 2465819
>>2463607Lucky Star's release was always a watershed moment in my eyes. After that show came out, more and more anime shifted towards gooning and representing otaku culture, Sword Art Online added the popularity of light novels and thus the entire industry was ruined.
>>2465148Same. I feel like popping a vein in my head when people are talking about what a genius classic it was when it was slop back then and it's slop today, just more outdated.
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>>2466061Eva definitely helped but, to its credit, the show's narrative didn't really push that, at least from my perspective. The marketing/merchandising, on the other hand…
No. 2466301
>>2465289>Why get involved in a fandom in the first place if you are just going to project your subconscious OC/W onto a pre-existing character/world?>I'm not getting involed in a fandom to entertain you, I want to talk about the character/world and what is actually shown in the original source.It's so exhausting. You can't even disagree or step aside because since they're literally projecting into the characters they take it as a personal offense. I just don't really give a shit anymore to be honest, normal people with headcanons are so few and far between that I just assume any fan I encounter who constantly talks about headcanons are just self inserting narcissist idiots.
>It's always some gender woo-woo crap and nothing of any substance that's worth any consideration.I'm so tired of this covert literally me self insertion crap in every fandom everywhere all the time whether it's trannies or not. Does making out with your own reflection 24/7 not get fucking boring? Not everybody wants to make out with your reflection either.
No. 2466316
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How come people don't write fic with this specific OTT noughties style of prose anymore? Or is it still fairly common and I'm just not reading enough M/M?
No. 2466346
>>2466222>>2466232If anyone has this interview I feel like some big names talked about this, but basically
In the 80s people who read more books and saw other types of media made anime. Nowadays a lot of people who make anime and LNs consume only anime media, so tropes and fanservice are regurgitated. Producers encourage this because shit sells.
This applies to every industry and niche, you need to expand your horizons if you want to make fresh art and entertainment.
No. 2466357
>>2466346Honestly, I think when it comes to storytelling, manga/ln/anime writers wear their influences on their sleeve. It's not that they don't read outside media, hell more than one anime has had all their episodes or characters named after books, movies, or authors. Characters, even in isekai surprisingly, do name drop classic lit and history from time to time.
Though to my point, I just feel like it should be emphasized that its more a problem with visuals. The reason why series like Sailor Moon, Jojo, or old shoujo were so iconic was because illustrators were looking through actual fashion runways. They were researching and creating a visual style.
Nowadays, the genshin/vtuber style is everywhere and people use white void backgrounds and assets as a major crutch. That sort of style sucks the life out of any anime, no matter how good it is otherwise.
People won't pay attention to an anime that doesn't look good.
No. 2466403
>>2460221>queer men (girls who identify as men) get what, DRAMATICAL MURDER? okayAnd what's wrong with that? Most otome games are crap and they have horrible relationship dynamics where the female protagonist is always the submissive virgin who falls in love with a guy who abuses or takes advantage of her. If that's what this TIF wants, why doesn't she play one of the dozens of BL that allow you to play as an uke? I bet most BL games have more interesting plots too. Or is the fact that it's a fujo genre too ~
problematic~?
>I don't mind fujoshis that muchMy dood, you are a fujo. You are female. The reason you want to self-insert in otome games is because you are female (the target audience) and are attracted to the male characters that were designed by women, for women.
The actual genre for actual queer men is called bara. Go ahead, play bara games instead.
>cishet women love joining queer spacesNo, women who aren't gendies made these spaces in the first place. Troons are the ones invading spaces and demanding to be catered to by normal women.
What a hypocrite, she acts like she and her tranny cult own female fandoms and hobbies, but instead of playing BL games made by/for women and featuring male protagonists like she wants, she wants to force the devs of otome games also made by/for women to twist the genre into something it isn't, just because she wants to play as a male without the ~
problematic~ fujo association.
>don't act like most BL was made with actual queer men in mindNeither was otome.
It's like a male tranny complaning that yuri games weren't made with trannies in mind and asking for female protagonist options in straight eroge. Those troons just shut up and coom to yuri.
Why are fakebois so obsessed with being "represented" in otome? Why otome specifically? I haven't seen this many Aidens cry about BL games not having fakeboi protagonists. No, they want the games that were made for women to self-insert into a cliché heterosexual romance, where the protagonist is constantly treated a certain way just because she's female. It's like they can't stop signalling how female and heterosexual they are, even though they pretend they're not. Total cognitive dissonance. Do they ever stop to think about this blatant contradiction?
They don't wanna play BL presumably because they hate non-gendie fujos and because the protagonist has male genitals. If that bothers them so much, how do they manage to play games where the protagonist is explicitly female and treated as such?
>b-b-but yaoi is made by stinky cishet women who fetishize gay men!!1>so I'm demanding this genre by cishet women who romanticize male-on-female abuse and sexism to pander to me instead!Pathetic retard.
>>2460412>do men ever do this shit and cry about eroge and galge being exclusive?No, they don't.
Neither TIFs nor TIMs pester moids in their spaces like this. They only invade and ruin female-dominated spaces. It's because they know men won't give a fuck and women are more easily pressured into doing their bidding. I hate it.
>>2460421>and the male love interests being stronger than the MC and lifting her up and stuff like thatThat's so fucking weird to me because they want to play otome where this constantly happens explicitly because the protag is female, and not BL where there's a lower chance of that happening. There are many more BL games where you play as a seme than otome games with a female seme protagonist. All they want is a stereotypical het romance, but with a tranny coat of paint (other characters calling her a man). Literally nothing would change except for the pronouns.
No. 2466410
>>2466394tbf both the majority of the fandom and JKR have/had appalling taste in pairings. Sirius/Lupin was inescapable for many years and it's one of the most powerfully retarded pairings I've ever been subjected to. The only really compelling HP ships I can think of right away are
Sirius/James and Snape/Harry>>2466316>screaming like a banshee when you ejaculate What the fuck is wrong with some fictional moids
No. 2466412
>>2460871This is so dumb, you can make something "LGBT" without including every fucking letter of the alphabet. The fact that there's 3 female love interests already means there's a high amount of lesbian content. Why does it need to have 100 different kinds of trannies as well?
>>2461077This game looks absolutely stunning. That's why it made troons and TRAs so mad. They want only the good shit to pander to them, and they know deep down that most of the time, gendie-made media is mediocre at best.
In other words, they're jealous, but they don't want to actually make something of that quality themselves, because it would mean not pandering to their own with ugly, disgusting and boring ideas, and they don't wanna get cancelled for transphobia, racism, fatphobia, and every other kind of bigotry for making something that's actually appaeling to them.
No. 2466425
>>2466061>>2466073Evangelion was actually subverting waifubait character tropes that were already becoming common in anime when it was made. Of course, it backfired, and things only got worse because of its huge success and the male otaku's inability to self-reflect and self-improve. Thanks to this, the character archetypes that both Rei and Asuka were supposed to be a reinterpretation of became more and more exaggerated and devoid of substance, and waifu culture exploded.
>>2466346It was Hayao Miyazaki who said that, if I'm not mistaken. He said something along the lines of
>creators these days don't draw from real life, they only consume media by other otakubut I don't remember the exact quote.
I think Tomino might've commented on it a few times, too.
>>2466357>>2466381Filling your manga/anime/LN with references to other fictional works (whether you are a true, hardcore fan of those works or not) is not the same as writing an interesting and complex story inspired by those other works.
You could use that inspiration to write something with a powerful message and gripping drama that changes a whole generation, or you could use a bunch of names of songs by your favorite western band to name your Sailor Moon hentai doujinshi series. These days, manga and LN authors are more interested in pandering to their fellow coomer waifufags rather than writing a good story. They want to live in their otaku bubble forever.
No. 2466446
>>2466405Of course, but come on, what about the adult couples? I feel like either JKR or the editors didn't want to ick out the young audience with romance- and by that I mean book 6 and 7. Tonks and Lupin just thrown in there?
As a kid I appreciated it because I was also in the team "romance is cringe", but there are kissing scenes and they feel like they're there just because some people needed to end up together and ofc they stayed with their highschool sweethearts.
No. 2466509
>>2466446Wizarding society seems so small that it is probably more realistic for them to stay married to high school sweethearts. Divorce in their culture must SUCK.
>>2466394Yes. But I had a really bad instinct for these kinds of things as a child so I thought Harry would end up with Luna and when Ron and Hermione together I was extremely confused because the buildup went over my head.
No. 2466593
>>2466567Wtf??? Is the vibrator in-game or was that edited?
Azur Lane was never even
that coomerish when it launched… I even played it when it was still pretty early since I thought it looked cute.
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>>2466593The vibrator is from another game (of course it's Brown Dust 2 lmao) but Azur Lane got way more coomerish nowadays too. This is the newest skin.
No. 2466802
>>2463751I don't think you can really tell if the writer is good.
https://archiveofourown.org/users/paraTactician/pseuds/paraTactician is a guy who wrote fic and there's in his work that really says "MALE".
No. 2466824
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What the fuck is wrong with the Arcane fandom? Or is this just Musk era twitter
No. 2466835
>>2466567>the fucking linkBut tell me once again how LADS is borderline pornography/rapey/coomshit.
>>2466595I think Brown Dust 2 is setting an unprecendented at the moment. I can't wait for "genfriendly" gachas to fall into that kind of debauchery.
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>>2466567wtf men have torture simulators in their gachaslop and dare to call women gooners for having a period tracker?
No. 2466851
>>2465186I phrased that poorly, sorry. These are AUs that take the
premise of Spotless Mind or Peggy Sue and apply it to characters from whatever fandom the writer is in. So like, having characters from Teen Wolf or something erase all the memories of a relationship only to get together again. That sort of thing.
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>>2466824I think it's because Viktor and his storyline was accidentally written like a peak TIF self-insert material in an already gendie-friendly setting and it all went downhill from there and now you can't look directly at whatever they have with jayvik there or you will go lovecraft-mad.
No. 2466859
>>2459582okay but like, what compels these women to emasculate their favorite male characters ("babygirl", etc) or even turn males into females this way (all the cervix talk, etc)? is it just pornsickness?
>>2465669I always wondered why Haruhi Suzumiya's production was so hellbent on sabotaging itself, what was the deal with that?
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>>2466849Not only that but the dialogue is fucking retarded too. Moids are really satisfied with a writing that rivals the one of a 12yo discovering Wattpad.
No. 2466862
>>2466852He was just your typical poor nerdy
is that why? moid gone mad I dont why tifs related to him so much but season 2 did nerf his woman love interest
No. 2466921
>>2466478>Anno himself hates the series and its fanbase to the point he ended Rebuild with the most spiteful ending he could give to them.Also he just can’t write for shit anymore
Rebuild was hot garbage from the start and any Anno simp who pretends that it’s actually good is retarded.
No. 2466949
>>2466945Most anime IS slop there to either sell toys or figures to otaku though, I don’t see how that’s a particularly hot take.
Obviously it worked on me since I own anime figures kek.
No. 2467019
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Why do fandomtards seem to fear calling themselves straight when they clearly are?
No. 2467045
sage because im not sure if this is a right thread for this, but i just went to my first con in just under a decade, and maybe its just my internal bias, or maybe i just went to a particularly shitty con, but it was so depressing compared to the ones i went to before.
there was barely anything to do. i used to go pretty regularly to my local con back in the day, and they used to have interactive/fan led panels that were entertaining and went on one after the other pretty much the whole day, there were also multiple cosplay competitions, free workshops and activities, etc. the only events they had at the one i went to this week were panels by random online influencers that no one cared about (most of the audience were people who just sat down in the audience seats to eat, some of them were even facing away from the stage lol), a "performance area" that people used to film tiktoks (the most popular area), and some board games, which were admittedly quite fun but there was a limited number of them.
the artist alley is a lot bigger than i remember it being, which is both good and bad. i think its good that local artists are able to get more exposure, however some of the art i saw was of very questionable quality and it was very jarring to see them next to the work of artists who were talented and put a lot of effort in. maybe it was just because i was much younger, but i dont remember this being the case at the old cons i went to, the artists were always pretty solid. also, there was a lot of overlap between stalls, which i guess is understandeable if that's what sells, but it was very tiring seeing the same stuff over and over and over again especially because the area felt so much larger than it was before.
i will say that i feel like a lot more people are in cosplay like which i enjoyed, as i love seeing all the different costumes people wear. i was with some friends, and we were planning to stick around for the cosplay parade they were going to have in the evening, but there was just so little to do that we ended up leaving as it was still in the early afternoon and we didnt want to stick around for 3+ hours just for the parade.
No. 2467081
>>2467019>girliest girl to ever girlThe only reason why she says this is because this grown, muscular adult man has long hair, no beard and no receding hairline so why would anyone take her and other similar fans seriously.
Or maybe they read too many headcanons about how his technique is a reference to pregnancy but that's still stupid because he hates it.>>2467048>im so confused if they like this character as a woman why is the fanart always a moid?There is some art of him as a woman but it's usually a reference to a specific scene near the end of the manga.
Half of them are depicting Kenjaku and not Geto himself though. No. 2467551
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Saw this and immediately thought of the threadpic. This would be weird enough if it were referring to a fictional character, but it's actually on a post about a real-life hockey player hanging out with his rookie teammates. Wtaf
No. 2467572
>>2467563Fucking insane that we've normalized men neglecting their girlfriends to such a degree that the concept of a boyfriend being empathetic about your period is considered some kind of sick and twisted fetish. All while men are fed a steady stream of serial-killer-esque shit like
>>2466849 and if any woman even criticizes it a little she's called a frigid prude. Male loneliness isn't an "epidemic," it's an deserved consequence, and I hope it gets worse for them.
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Why do scrotes on 4chan even have a thread on IN? Oh right to post Nikki's feet and troon out
No. 2468132
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>retarded mod wants to flag yuri photo posts as NSFW, so let's rebel by…sexualizing Nikki into an exhibitionist
This community is a joke.
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>>2467858>>2468142yup
tldr he tried to deny the neil gaiman stuff because the first source to come out about it was a
terf podcast iirc
No. 2468163
>>2468132Its incredibly aggravating, not only do I have to see their absolutely shit taste in clothing there's this garbage too.
I regret choosing the American server. So many coomers and AGP.
No. 2468298
>>2467817Noralities was kind of an annoying woke retard but the people going against her both before and now are far worse and just loli gooners upset that she called out their cunny porn
Honestly why are these the only two sides in fandom these days? I don't want to side with either the tumblr retards or disgusting degenerates
No. 2468425
>>2467817>>2468298She was mildly annoying sometimes and defenitely woke, but I remember her being tolerable, and I tought it was interesting to have a female perpective like hers, so I honestly miss her
even if she would defenitely be guaranteed to be at least a she/they nowadaysThe moids seething at her were turbogooner spergoids and their arguments were flat out retarded and bad faith. I remember one of the main arguments they had basically boiled down to "oh, she says she finds high school girl pantyshots annoying and she thinks the blatant loli shit in dragon maid is gross? well… one time she drew two BNHA boys kissing, HYPOCRITE MUCH???". She basically got cancelled for being a run-of-the-mill fujo shipper.
I don't even remember her actively trying to start drama with anybody in particular. There's a particular type of anime moid (particularly shonentards) that gets supremely autiscally offended if you criticize whatever shounenshit he likes. Noralities was starting to get traction at the time, so she felt onto their radars and had to fall
victim to male weeb tard rage.
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>shitty titty robot
Be so for real now
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>>2467604You're absolutely right, the person was probably just being hyperbolic for comedic effect. It's still super weird to conjure up imagery of a man un-birthing his teammates though. I do not need the mental image of a hairy man in his late 30s doing that kek
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>>2467769Men really think shirtless men is more lewd than this?
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Ugh
No. 2469278
>>2468132Is there a way to report these guys and get their accounts banned? Like if they have their in-game ID somewhere in their reddit comments.
I remember infold banning chinese scrotes who tried to make nsfw mods of the lads mc
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Somebody appeared on iShowSpeed's livestream cosplaying a blue archive character who is a "toxic gamer" and said the n slur, nexon is now going to sue them kek
No. 2469340
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>>2469245Nukani, and even then its way wayyy more mild than any waifuslop you can find on the playstore.
No. 2469343
>>2469340I said it in another thread, but I was legit surprised when lolcow got a nukani thread considering people used to say it's for gay moids, at least a few anons who complained in /blog/ or /joseimuke/ lol
I'm not judging, I don't play it that's just the first impression I got based on the beefy cleric
No. 2469366
>>2469365His torso is freakishly long, kek
There's better out there
nonnie, don't limit yourself to slop.
No. 2469369
>>2469365>i'm disappointing he ain't fully nakedwait until you find out which game he comes from
>>2469366no1currs about your opinion
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Lmao
No. 2469408
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>>2469394If you actually opened a yaoi manga you'd know there's no such thing as one "yaoi style", there's fujos that draw gintama doujinshi and those that draw thin slender kawoshin. There's junjou romantica, umibe no etranger, doukyusei and yuri on ice. The faces and glossyness look a bit more western to me personally.
No. 2469410
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>>2469388Philistine, his pecs can also be used as a lovely pillow. Also, I personally like the idea of watching him give another hot moid a titjob kek.
No. 2469417
>>2469395Cum? In
my yaoi game? It's more likely than you think.
No. 2469534
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>>2469471ofcourse kiwiscrotes and ''antiwoke'' mentally stunted coomers on twitter are crying about how its le based to coom to this garbage where women get beaten and violated with objects.
No. 2469538
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>>2469471Why do all these gamergaters have bizarre troon tendencies? One of my personal cows constantly complains about muh woke and women but has an anime girl profile picture and uses anime girl thumbnails every single video, they are all closet AGPs I swear
No. 2469543
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>>2469434Stop arguing with the uninformed baiter
nonnie, she likes to use terms without having any idea what they actually refer to, your point will simply not go across.
That said, webtoon canvas really has a lot of rather unappealing looking "romance" stories. I know a lot of people in this thread blindly hate all webtoons but some korean BL have extremely high production quality, but the western ones mostly look so amateur it feels weird to have them on the same site.
No. 2469545
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>>2469394It's not like there aren't games for gay men, you'd have to be blind to think NuCarni and pic related look similiar.
No. 2469587
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>>2469555I have a friend who goes on /BLOG/ who’s like this for the most part.
It’s kinda hilarious how she called Slow Damage having a CG of Towa’s dick ‘scrote imagery’ but openly calls Saya no Uta a masterpiece kek.
No. 2469596
>>2469579It looks perfectly normal to me, maybe it's because they use live 2d so it looks slightly off to you?
No offense, but tbh the nitpicking always seems weird, like people don't like the idea of the game or something, same case with this post here.
>>2469587 No. 2469598
>>2469596Nta but finding an art style ugly isnt nitpicking
I'm glad nukani exists and I hope more games that are unashamedly for women release but that doesnt mean anons cant talk badly about it either
No. 2469599
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>>2469562That guy is so fucking annoying and disingenuous. During the genshin boycott he made a video misrepresenting some comic about it, literally skipping the portion saying to quit playing it to push the wokies bitch but still play thing. Not even wrong, just not in that case. Picrel also annoyed me. The misogyny at ubisoft was a huge deal when the allegations came out in 2020 but I guess trying to do better is woke brainrot. Then I saw some video where he covered v-tuber drama and defended loli saying it's just a bodytype! It doesn't have anything to do with age!! Fucking weirdo
No. 2469604
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>>2469596Yeah, tons of nukani pics have come up on this thread at different points and they always latch on to specific awkward poses to nitpick. I love this game and post on the dedicated thread whenever possible but even I don't bring it up as often as some certain anons with a hateboner for it do.
No. 2469606
>>2469599Kek the cross necklace as if Jesus wouldn't hate this degenerate AGP
>>2469603Is this person from the LC fujoshi discord? Seems familiar
No. 2469608
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>>2469600Her reasoning is that because VNs for moids have a focus on genitalia and sex that if a game for women does the same (or even just does so in the H scenes) then it’s automatically scrote tier framing
No. 2469611
>>2469598Sure ig, but after hearing "its ugly actually!" "Gross!" "Aren't rhe characters a bit too bara?" "Seems more like a gay man thing" "this game is probably flopping anyway" "boring" "the characters are actually bland" "it actually doesn't go far enough" over and over again, in the most random of contexts, you start thinking if its actually that bad or if some people have a weird hang up about it.
Glad the game exists, but is there actually anything good about it?
No. 2469619
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>>2469608While stuff like pic is not scrote framing because there’s not as much emphasis on genitalia (or it’s not shown at all)
No. 2469641
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>>2469543They're both the same picture compared to more anime artstyles
No. 2469642
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>>2469625Gotta love how the one that’s more “female gaze” has worse art too kek
>>2469633Accurate meme is accurate
No. 2469653
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>>2469545Oh how the times change
>>>/m/189262 No. 2469660
>>2469657It was half fakebois seething because “le ebil fujoshis preventing true and honest gay men from going to a yaoi cafe!” and half straight men seething because “I’m not allowed to go in and harass women so I’m basically being oppressed!”
There was probably a few James Somerton style gay guys who fell into the fakeboi category but as per usual I doubt most of them have a shit.
No. 2469665
>>2469659Maybe that’s why they got so mad at the period trackers, because men can’t get periods kek.
Guys kind of get overly upset at the idea of being left out of anything it seems (WHY NO INTERNATIONAL MENS DAY?)
No. 2469668
>>2469658Iirc when the game first released, the creator team gave out a statement about how they were specifically aiming for a game made for women, by women, with what women would like in mind (though more the Asian market like Korea, China, Tawain, and Japan instead of the west).
It caused a fuss for a bit because gendies at the time were naking lots of titoks bashing women for playing a mlm game meant for men.
No. 2469680
>>2469673I think it makes sense if you look at certain twitter fujoshi artists, that "youthful, but very slutty and muscley" look has gotten popular in certain circles. At least, I've seen it before. Hell, isn't Yuuji from JJK sort of that type?
He looks way too bishounen for bara, which is probably why I've never seen a bara artist draw him (only seen a couple do Quincy). Maybe if they changed his design to be muscle shota, but I've never seen it.
No. 2469689
Nona, stuff like
>>2460782 is what gay men enjoy, or at least what gay men make for each other to read. There do exist gay men who like yaoi, but stuff like Nukani is not made specifically with them in mind.
No. 2469692
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>>2469649Because she's being obtuse on purpose and comparing still story panels with official art with sparkly gradients + paying zero attention to face proportions and the like being similarly animu bishie in both nukani and her example. At this point I'm convinced that it's just bait, I'd suggest not engaging.
No. 2469694
>>2469689They like muscle shotas too, just look at camp buddy
I do agree that stuff like Nucarni is for women though
No. 2469702
>>2469599Agree with everything you wrote. I also hate the way he confidently calls people tourists and acts like people are fake fans when 90% of his anime-related content is about hentai and FOTM garbage.
>>2469657I was thinking the same thing. It seems like such a nothing problem because there is no way that could ever actually affect him unless he wants to go to a BL cafe.
No. 2469708
>>2469704Nta but he's not a shota.
Its degenerate, but recently I've noticed the "barely legal/16-18 basically an adult, but still cutesy/naive/kinda retarded" being considered as it's own archetype in fujo shipping and art. Garu is that type. He's an adult and not a shota, but he's meant to be cute.
To compare it to moidspeak, he's not a loli but a JK.
No. 2469713
>>2469709Garu looked more muscle shota to me(which is why I think a lot of nonnies were saying he looked like a character from a game for gay guys) while Aster is just regular shota.
But I guess
>>2469708 has a point in that he’s more inbetween
No. 2469717
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>>2469713Now that I think about it that’s kind of the body type that Kalim in twisted wonderland falls under (I just consider Riddle and the other three short guys to be shota characters though)
No. 2469721
>>2469716If you go on /vt/‘s archive and search up rev or hero hei then you’ll instantly find them talking about how much they hate them
Moids even got super upset when someone made AI art of a vtuber burning a trans flag when she got bullied off the platform for playing hogwarts legacy because “she wouldn’t want us to hate this isn’t what our smile of joy stood for” and other autistic dribble.
No. 2469728
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Women who buy this shit are so fucking cringe
No. 2469733
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>>2469722Doesn't Jack count?
No. 2469739
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>>2469727I don't think you guys know what muscle shota actually looks like.
Maybe its hard to tell, but there's a difference between what's been posted and pic related.
(shota sperging) No. 2469752
>>2469739I want to know what type of shading magic gay artists do that everyone seems so weirdly pudgy and squishy looking despite the muscles???
Also I wanted to research muscle shotas so I went to a general hentai website and looked at the yaoi tag, I feel unclean. Anything that wasn't clearly BL made by women was pure pedoshit and/or furry, absolutely disgusting. I can't even share screenshots, I'd be banned so fast
No. 2469756
>>2469737Serious answer but because they're cute and on a surface level they're not sexual. Don't get me wrong it's tacky and the panty shots are obviously meant to be sexual, but it's still very close to kawaii shoujo that's genuinely appealing to a lot of young girls (and some women). That's why males mimic it in the first place. If you can look past the panty shots either from not finding anime girls sexual, being inexperienced, or being sexually stunted it's then just cute art. It actually takes a certain level of anime porn knowledge for it to register as sexual, if you're new to it you can't spot it yet. When I was a teen I would probably have liked it, because I had zero knowledge about anime being used as porn. To me anime was just like sailor moon, card capture sakura or digimon, innocent and fun. It literally wouldn't have occurred to me that anyone could find it sexual, I had to see the anime community first hand to learn about it.
But as
>>2469742 said I think when it's more overtly sexual it's projection by women onto the anime girl as if she's an avatar that reflects them. They live in a fantasy world and think if they are the anime girl men will think they're hot
No. 2469758
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>>2469756>but it's still very close to kawaii shoujo that's genuinely appealing to a lot of young girlsIs it though? When I think of kawaii shoujo I think of otome/shoujo manga heroines and magical girls not oppai lolis.
Granted you have a point where a lot of girls might not even realize that it’s meant to be pornographic/erotic material.
No. 2469759
>>2469732Let's not lie here. Also reminds me, one of my personal VN cows is a huge Rance fan and is a confirmed woman. Lo and behold, she's obese. I swear women who tend to gravitate towards galge and their aesthetics are always fat.
>>2469756It does not require copious amounts of anime porn knowledge to realize cleavage, panty shots and lingerie are sexual. You were probably just slow
No. 2469765
>>2469759>Let's not lie here.How am I lying kek, the typical girl who collects this stuff is a ED chan who wears mezzo piano
>I swear women who tend to gravitate towards galge and their aesthetics are always fat.The ones into stuff like euphoria are usually fat (and a lot of them are also black women for some reason), the ones into stuff like Totono and this
>>2469740 are usually anas.
No. 2469768
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>>2469717The characters are all more buff in the card art, their models are a little limiting when it comes to muscle due to being rigged, and a little older. A good amount of the characters are more fit/muscular than they seem in this art.
No. 2469780
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>>2469739muscle shota hardly counts as actual shota anyway. garu does resemble one though, not everything gay men like is entirely repulsive.
(shota sperging) No. 2469782
>>2469778There’s a chick on a visual novel discord I’m on who does this constantly, she regularly tries to get some moid who’s also there to abuse her or bragging about how much loli rape doujins she’s going to buy while she’s in Japan (or whining about being fat obviously)
I’ve seen a couple of others like her but she’s definitely the main one that comes to mind.
No. 2469788
>>2469731>>2469732>fat whores >Ana chans Both the main demographic of pedo pandering BPD monster level loli baiters. Whenever you see those disgusting NSFW twitter accounts called puppycxnt or something it's always
>>2469728 aesthetic alongside NSFW style posts that even Soren Hayes had the decent to at least pretend they were sad about
No. 2469808
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>>2469704if he was shota he’d look like this
(shota sperging) No. 2469948
>>2469343That's so retarded. The /blog/ I remember would've called it based and god-tier.
>>2469555>>2469492Last time I went there, they called themselves "sluts" constantly, it was kind of off-putting.
>>2467769>you should never have to worry about IN getting censoredYeah, because Infinity Nikki is neither an otome game with sex scenes, nor a coomer gacha game for scrotes. It's supposed to be family friendly and it's not a waifubait game. Typical scrote behavior, thinking that the mere existence of a cute girl is inherently sexual/meant to arouse moids, and the same as coomshit like the recent female designs in Genshit. Retarded scrotes like these make me want to A-log.
>>2469278Based Infold
No. 2469977
>>2469408NTA but there are yaoi styles (female-oriented) and there are bara styles (gay male oriented). It is a thing. Women and men draw people in different ways, and they draw different body types in different ways too, so, muscular != bara. The only exception is when a woman or gay man intentionally tries to learn the other style.
There may not be a singular BL style or body type, but every BL style looks different from bara and leans towards ikemen/bishounen; I think that's what that anon was getting at. There was no need to "correct" her, especially since she was just saying that anyone who knows the difference between BL and bara can see that NuCani is for women just from the art style, which is true. It doesn't matter if you think it's too "western-looking", what matters is that it's for women and looks the part.
I've always thought the art style of this game is boring and bland like Genshit. I know they're trying to make it as coomer as possible, but it doesn't hold a candle to moid hentai. It needs better rendering, more detail around the bits that matter. The crotches, for example, are really boring to look at. I feel nothing when I look at NuCani art. Maybe it's just me and I've just been spoiled by better art and BL manga, or maybe it's actually lacking something, who knows. And no, it's not the gloss nor the pecs, I don't see either as a problem, and neither of those things give a "western" vibe since those can be easily found in East Asian fujo art as well. I also just don't like the faces but that's just my taste.
I support what this game is trying to do, but I think the art could be better.
Anyone who thinks it looks "nasty" or "gross" because it's "too coomer" is clearly outside the target audience so their opinions are irrelevant. So are the (psyopped like so
>>2469625 ) women complaining about it looking like it's "for gay men" only because the art actually focuses on the male body and gives them retarded sexy outfits.
No. 2470009
>>2469408the homestuck day birthday is
triggering me
No. 2470011
>>2469994I don't see it being western at all, what are you guys looking at? Imo, if I have to say, then Korean?
Though, pretty sure it's tawainese.
No. 2470017
>>2469653Even 3 years ago there were many anons who weren't familiar enough with BL or bara or other Asian genres to tell the two apart. There were also anons who were so used to stuff for women featuring non-sexualized males that their brains short-circuited when they saw bishies/ikemen in slutty outfits and thought it must be for gay men. We can still see people like this today.
>>2469673>>2469689There is some overlap. Visually, BlackMonkey-Pro is about the closest it can get to BL while still being bara, and viceversa for NuCani (or that one Asian fujo who draws a lot of muscular guy rape whose name I forgot, she was posted on /m/ once with several anons calling her a moid because of her content). It's also possible for both genres to influence each other, which seems to have happened a lot since the 2010s.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, and not to say women can't like some bara styles or gay men can't like some BL styles. It's dumb and childish to judge women for it. East Asian fujos seem to be way less judgmental about those things (and more degenerate).
No. 2470023
>>2469728You'll never see the opposite with men
>>2469756Yes, what they find appealing about moe and loli art (huge overlap) is the "cute shoujo" aesthetic that pedo scrotes stole from shoujo manga. They don't know or care that moe/loli is a disgusting corruption of something that was initially innocent and actually meant for girls.
>if you're new to it you can't spot it yetIt depends. If you're an absolute normie who has never been exposed to anime, you'll definitely think it's weird and creepy. If you're a kid who's interested in anime and grew up watching shows with mild fanservice or sexy characters, you'll probably think it's normal and innocent when little girls are drawn and posing in sexualized ways.
No. 2470030
>>2470011Lots of retardation ITT tbh
>thinking that run-of-the-mill Asian fujo art looks western (if anything, said western art it reminds them of was heavily influenced by Asian art)>refusing to believe that bara shotas are shotas because they said so, even though every gay moid artist calls them shota ("I can't schlick it to it, therefore it doesn't count!!")>saying bara shotas look just like the average adult anime protag because they don't know that children and adults are drawn differently in different art styles (or "muscle + brown hair = same as that adult character I know" kek)>"No one gives a shit about 3DPD rapeapes" even though pedo bara artists base their muscle shotas on that exact type, which is what the other anon was saying>unironically shilling shotashitIt reeks of underage or a womanchild under Dunning-Kruger effect. It's always the shotafags, isn't it.
(stop talking about shota) No. 2470042
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>>2470009There is no escape
No. 2470050
>>2470042Oh my god kek. Morvay is even a
valid troll name…
No. 2470061
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The morvay related posts are kinda funny because imagine using the ONE npc design with a weird expression out of 100+ designs released so far to make flat judgements on the art.
>>2470042 is the only correct usage of that pic kek.
For any curious passersby, let me share some funny info about him. He has consistently been the least popular character due to
>the look in >>2469408 being his design in the easily accessible main story and event stories>unlike the other characters mc (Eiden) seems to develop romantic relationships with, his sex scenes with mc is mostly him pestering Eiden for bjs because as an incubus cum is his energy source. It's hilarious cuz one of Eiden's SSRs (picrel) looks more incubus like than the actual incubus morvay lol>only getting a single SSR so far which had sex scenes with kinks unpopular among majority of fansThe small number of fans he does have even admit that his personality so far is mostly just cum-obsessed reluctant workaholic himbo and are hoping the devs will give him more character development and screen time. His VA is active on twitter and is one of those rare fans, man was very sad when redditors had a poll about character popularity (with morvay being rock bottom as usual) and idiots shared it on twitter where he could see it. I felt lowkey bad for him kek.
No. 2470075
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No. 2470105
>>2470061I don't know about the other anons but my opinion about the game's art isn't solely based on that pic or that character.
Thanks for the extra info, though. It was an interesting read.
No. 2470163
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I thought this was appropriate for this thread too, moids and their cope about gooner games
No. 2470177
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>>2467019cause for some reason, they harbor an irrational hatred towards any straight ships, unless those ships are "queer" in some way.
No. 2470195
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>>2470177>>2470183>unless those ships are "queer" in some wayI know we all hate that malewife sword of damoclestweet because fannys posts it, but it's true: they obviously like heterosexual couples but feel they have to 'subvert' it in some way, and it just comes across as unbearably cringe
No. 2470197
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>>2470177>>2467019Straights took over being gay because they felt excluded. Plus the fandom conditioning.
No. 2470273
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>>2469599>genshin boycott TBF, that was a whole shitshow
No. 2470502
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>>2470195>akilah, literally the most feminine girl in the entire cast, is the 'butch' apparentlyI swear these people are probably more racist than matt walsh
No. 2470618
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Why is this game attracting such gross people im so done
No. 2470669
>>2470659yes, but slapping a pussy on a man they want to see railed is misogynistic, and if gendies can be misogynistic they
will be, ~transphobia~ be damned
No. 2470676
>>2470670>>2470672Kek your precious game got overrun by pedo trannies and all you can do is cope.
>This gaslit brainwashing into believing things for women aren't for women isn't the cool shit you think it is, its just kinda pathetic and depressing.Not so tough when you're on that side of things for once huh? Lmao.
(bait) No. 2470700
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>the classic world was pretty chill with u being gay
the damage caused by the "greek mythology fandom" is beyond outrageous, your all romanticizing an extremely patriarchal society that disdained women and raped little boys
No. 2471105
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AO3 adventures: rich incest man hires a struggling younger woman to be surrogate for him and some random woman completely different from the canon. Having your womb rented out is very fluffy and meet cute. Also rich incest man gets raped by the woman who's canonically raped, I guess because he needs to be sad or something. Wordcount: a lot
No. 2471130
>>2471123It's not that it's untame (I agree that it isn't), more that it's extremely misogynistic trying to pass itself off as adorable. ASOIAF fandom is very libfemmy though so I imagine most fans support surrogacy uncritically
>>2471126DA but sounds like M/M for sure
No. 2471327
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>>2467019This is exactly the kind of shit that makes me end up hating an otherwise interesting character or homoship. I hate how fandom insists on making the designated bottom the "woman" in the relationship, slapping them with tropes that have no basis in canon. Like, I remember seeing super sincere essays about Geto's femininity just because of his long hair and technique. So many fics on ao3 typecast him as some yass-queen seductress slut, even though he is canonically a sperg who called Yuta a womanizer. I do not mind creators giving their own flavor to a character, but it becomes annoying when everyone in the fandom starts to believe that that is how the character actually is in the story.
Very unrelated schizo rant incoming but as someone who still plays Shart Rail, I was actually looking forward to Mydei/Phainon yaoibait specifically because I wanted to see the writer’s self-insert, Phainon, take it up the ass. But of course, fandom has collectively decided that Mydei is the bottom. That alone would not bother me, except that they immediately shove him into the same cookie-cutter "designated bottom" archetype. Because fandom insists on making Mydei the 'pseudo-woman' in the relationship, they twist everything he does into proof that he is basically a woman. Oh, he likes pink drinks? He is a woman! Oh, he plays with children? He is a woman! It is insane. And since they have already decided he is the "woman," they slap on the usual designated bottom tropes - every other fanart or fic turns him into a semen demon experienced slut, while Phainon is the virgin golden retriever puppy simp. Which is completely OOC, considering Mydei is canonically an awkward autist who gets flustered at the mere idea of romance.
And then there is the overwhelming amount of cuntboy fanart and troon headcanons. Every other fic has a Mydei has a vagina tag. Every other fanart on poipiku is just cuntboy art. I hate bottom Mydei specifically because of this, because fandom tries so hard to force the idea that he is some kind of woman. It is exhausting.
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I'm seriously not the one to say this type of thing, as I used to have so many female friends in fandom back in the day and those sure were good times, but nowadays, I'm dreading the fandom I'm in to become female dominated. Don't get me wrong, women do add a certain flair to communities that is needed and in some ways even contribute with insanely creative trends, and I'm NOT particularly fond of male dominated communities either because they tend to radiate pure autism and pornsickness, but it really depends on context as of late. The fandom I'm in is very chill, no ship wars, no trannies or tranny fanart, no "I WANT TO IMPREGNATE HIS CERVIX" type of shit, no call-outs, no race debates, no moralfagging. Just discussion here and there and memes, it's very ideal considering today's climate, and it hurts me to admit as a women, that the moment any sizeable amount of female fans joins us it all will go to shit in no time
No. 2471434
>>2471414I'm guessing it's either sci-fi or some sort of videogame. It's probably outside my usual interests because I can't think of anything more specific than that. Maybe Helldivers?
I'm guessing it's something that doesn't lend itself well to streaming for for secondaries.
No. 2471441
>>2471440Honestly, let them. If gay men are using the words "cunt" and "dyke" and whatnot
Not to mention drag circle lingo like "fish"
No. 2471451
>>2471441I don't care how/if it affects gay moids, TIFs aren't doing shit to them by calling their husbando a faggot on tumblr. I just can't stand the hypocrisy of these girls thinking they're oppressed disprivileged
victims with the moral highground while saying slurs and acting like legit feminists and/or lesbians are evil bigots for knowing biological sex is real. How the fuck do they get away with it in this environment of policing every bit of language and every possible kind of discrimination, it's fucking crazy.
No. 2471544
>>2471530I don't think it's just that, every youtuber needs to point out they're a specific minority or have ADHD/depression or aren't straight, otherwise nobody in their hipster circle will see them as
valid lol
No. 2471630
>>2471327These types are a plague on fandoms and a big reason why fujos aren't beating the "straight with extra steps" allegations.
>>2471402Condolences, nona. We need to bring back gatekeeping and bullying to keep this kind of retardation at bay specifically. Modern brainrot fujos are abhorrent.
(fujosperging outside of containment) No. 2471633
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They need to stop sending this shit to themselves to make a "hit tweet", how are they not embarrassed.
No. 2471652
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>>2471182it's always been a fetish, they just claim disliking it is transphobia now
>>2471206>>2471305agreed, shit sucks. i hope this anon from 2x doesn't mind me posting her shit here but it's really sad what's happened to (western) female communities online. i wish i could read cn/jp/kr, they're having a ball over there.