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>>>/ot/2476846Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
Frequently Asked Questions
>Where can I download brushes and CSP assets?Resources such as /dbag/ are easy to find online.
>How do I schedule my art?Professional artist's schedules are easy to find online, however these may be unsustainable long term and it might be better to use them for references for you to build your own rather than attempting to follow them to a T.
>Is drawing furry or porn profitable? Will it give me clout?It can be, but the market is incredibly saturated and coomers and furries already have artists they want to commission. You will be competing against thousands of people, consider what makes you stand out and if you really want to sink time and effort into something you may not enjoy even a little.
>Questions regarding AIBoth the AI thread in /m/ or the AI Debate thread might be more suitable.
>What is this style called/who is this artist?Use reverse image search (yandex, tineye, etc.) or the Help Me Find thread.
>What are your thoughts on…?Look through older artist salts or give context.
>Painting: Poem of the Soul - One Evening by Louis Janmot (1854) No. 2503961
>>2503778>Purely out of curiosity though, how do you feel about the shift? Do you prefer professional over commissions?I love art so it's not like I mind either. They both have pros and cons. When you're a pro artist at a company like I was the deadlines are serious, so it's odd for me to not get one for commissions. It still shocks me seeing artists who take commissions that they might finish in 4 months, half a year, or maybe later, who knows! The worst ethics of some artists shock me.
The worst thing about working for a company is the art is more often than not their property now. I can't post it or share it. But it's also so highly customised to their brand that it doesn't necessarily feel like my own art anyway. It's cool to work on so many different projects! Seeing your art out in the wild at a real company is an amazing feeling!
Commissions are fun because I get to work directly with people who are passionate about their OC, or whatever they want me to draw. It feels more personal and I love the excited reactions from people. I've been lucky enough not to run into creeps or weirdos yet, but I imagine it's less fun having to deal with them myself rather than having my boss handle it for me.
I prefer doing both at the same time, which I did for a period and will aim for again in the future. You'd think I'd burn out but I have a workaholic personality when it comes to art so it doesn't tire me out.
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>Kasanemichael
Of course
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>>2503961ayrt Thank you so much for the input! You're doing my absolute dream job and I love hearing about your perspective. Thank you thank you!
This insight will motivate me to keep striving for it I hope!
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>>2503961Nta but I agree with you regarding artists commission deadlines. There have been several artists that I've wanted to commission and planned to tip high (bc their prices were really low for the quality) but I chose not to when I got to the part where they basically might not ever finish my commission or could decide to drop it at any given time.
As an aside to the other anon, I love the kind of client who just loves your art and lets you go. My favorite client just told me to do whatever, draw her characters or don't just "show off" basically. She paid extremely well, tipped into the hundreds and never bothered me about anything. I felt like a Renaissance artist sponsored by the Medici family lol.
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>>2504067Glad to inspire someone!
Honestly one of the best pieces of advice I can give is to simply stay professional/neutral online. I see sooo many artists who ruin their own reputations! Don't shitpost too much, please do not throw self-pity parties as it makes you look incredibly whiny and unable to handle normal stress. Don't post about how slow you are at drawing and that you're months behind on commissions (I see so much of this!). You can still be fun and quirky and have your own personality, but it's gonna look better if you drop anything that isn't "brand friendly" so to speak: don't post about doing drugs, don't post thirst traps, don't beg for money, don't post/repost sexual things, don't be too political.
>>2504087>There have been several artists that I've wanted to commission and planned to tip high (bc their prices were really low for the quality) but I chose not to when I got to the part where they basically might not ever finish my commission or could decide to drop it at any given time.I had it happen to me as a kid, before I got a job. One of the very first (and few) artists I commissioned as a wee 15 or so year old made a public post cancelling all current commissions without paying any money back. I woved then to never do that myself, and I'm still incredibly critical of people who don't finish the work they take on now. That artist is also the reason I was fairly distant and unknowing of the commission scene until I evetually started doing it myself.
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>>2504087i feel like i've seen that happen more than once (with the same artist) and i always wonder how do they get away with it? is it because they get their commissions from really close fans or something like that? or do people not care depending on the money they spent?
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>>2504587Ime of being a flake, it's always the first. I've since recovered from my ways (outside forces also excerbated things) but some people really make it too easy to procrastinate commissions. I feel like if they'd pushed I would have finished them faster but not a peep after even 1.5 years of silence on my end.
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Navimoons made a portfolio. Wow, such diverse and unique artwork on her personal works tab
https://navimoons.weebly.com/ No. 2504887
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>>2504882100 cheesecake pinups and old pirate OC shit make the cut but i see her old equally coomy work doesn't kek
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>>2504887why is it this specific OC she wants annihilate from existence kek
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>>2504882the difference is like night and day, the sovl is gone
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>>2505003https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2446383924Her past broadcasts expire after a certain amount of time, I know a nona here archives them
>>2504997Kek it’s only been a few minutes and I found some. Near the 51:00 mark
>there was a lot of projection, you know the ones in the comments, the ones who are thinking they are being self righteous about “oh she’s clearly mentally ill” and I’m just like okay No. 2505021
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>>2504920despite her retard compulsions, her yume spirit shows through still, i want to beli in her, please free my sister of her shackles "Porn" and "Moids" and show her the light of yooming.
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>>2505004Why do coomer twitter artists always use this weird shading, like dark spot with a highlight in the middle?
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>>2505036I didn't even realized that it's supposed to be blushing. Art like picrel makes characters looks like their skin is in oil, I see western artists doing that
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>>2505024KEK that
totally happened. Yep. Absolutely.
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>>2504005"those with periods" WOMEN! Just say women it's not a bad word
this would be so cool if she wasn't such a woman hater
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A tiny amount of people said they found the Mary thing weird, she could easily ignore it. I don’t feel sorry for the bullying she got, she needs to toughen up if she’s gonna do “unconventional” topics and have a show.
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>>2505576She at least detransed, she had more tweets about her feelings on it but they seem to be deleted. I would think she peaked because she quit the gendie crap in her art altogether, too bad it ended up being a monkey’s paw situation
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>>2505630Kek it was so funny when anons claimed ladt thread that the previous style was better. The Hazbin waist and stretched out legs do not look good
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>>2505646I liked her old art but I think her new art is better. I like when women look reasonably human. Nitpick but sometimes she does things like picrel that completely break the illusion, I can't imagine anyone could secure an office job with bright red hair. I like the new change, but I think there are character design aspects that she needs to let go just because they're still too animu.
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>>2505731"For personal reasons, I prefer not to draw (characters with) masectemy scars. Thanks for your understanding "
This sounds more like it's a
trigger thing than the truth and may go over better.
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>>2505739Wouldn't people think it's weird that she finds mastectomy scars
triggering though? It'd only work if anon larped as a gendie on main and said it's because it gives her body dysphoria or something.
Imo she's better off just turning down people who ask for things like that by saying she's busy
>>2505646I like the way she drew both bodies tbh it just feels weird on a character like Kate. Maybe if she had an older woman OC it wouldn't look so odd? Or maybe I'm too used to Kate being a twig idk
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>>2505751>Wouldn't people think it's weird that she finds mastectomy scars triggering though?NTA but maybe, though the important part is that it sounds like enough of a personal matter that no one will want to ask about it publicly. I've seen this a few times online and it seems like the only way to have a non-sexual non-wrongthink "won't draw" without being forced to explain yourself. I personally think that's fine enough for that anon's purposes, but I guess she could go with
>>2505750 and say no surgical scars at all if she's feeling really paranoid about pushback from gendies
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>>2505646Prefacing this by saying I am not really keeping up with this chick. I think her new style is
alright. It's not as bad as the anons who have emotional connections to her old art claim it is. However. The absurdly pointy tits and the over abundance of piercings draws away from the appeal of the new design…? The old art
is charming though. I tried combining her old style with the new design to see what it would look like. Suffice to say, I'm not a fan. Something about the skinnier design is more appealing.
>>2505788holy shit kek
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>>2505797Yours is really cute but it doesn't resemble her art style at all it's too much of a departure. I don't get why she's changing her art style so much now that she is supposedly working on an animated project, she has the fans she does for her old art style not for her current experimentation. Her new art style is looking less distinct and more modern and generic. I believe the person who suggested she was making these changes to avoid being accused of giving teenage girls eating disorders might be correct.
>>2505660The red hair is too iconic a part of the design, she can't just change that.
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>>2505646imo the her older, more exaggerated styles have a stronger sense of appeal– not in a personal sense, but in that of the animation principle. I don't think that her new style is necessarily
bad, but I do think it feels like it's not quite there yet to be something that looks eye-catching or stylish when animated or used in a comic, and her newer art feels like it has less flow and energy than her older stuff (pretty normal for an artist trying to improve fundies to over-correct like that though or have their art turn more 'mundane' or stiff).
tbh I mostly just think it's odd that she'd choose
now to make a major stylistic shift in her work, but otherwise I don't have strong opinions on Brujo/her art.
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>>2505797Woah, so cute! Yours is definitely my favorite variation, and has the best anatomy.
>>2505817I think it looks great as a sweet spot between the two designs, but I can see why you would think it isn't distinctly brujo-esque, especially trying to imagine it in isolation. It would be interesting to try bringing back a little more from each side, like pushing it a little more towards the exaggerated skinny shoujo proportions in the old version, leaving a few more wrinkles and slight messiness like the newer one, and making her a touch more pointy over all.
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>>2505817That makes sense.
>but it doesn't resemble her art style at all it's too much of a departure.I was beginning to notice that too. It was fun to do though, and I think I have a bit of a better understanding what's missing in her new art style. Lowkey? I kinda recommend everyone who hates her new art style to do this too; it's pretty enlightening and might give everyone a better idea of what it is that they
miss about that style.
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>>2505797I kind of really like the long legs, but that's just because I like spaghetti legs in general. There's an appeal to them that was what initially drew me to brujo's art. For better or for worse it's the kind of stylistic choice an artist has to make. Some anons here like realistic bodies, some like heavy stylized.
The triangle tits are terrible though. They only worked
because everything else was so heavily stylized. When she tried to make her art style more realistic features like long doll legs also stopped working or looked wonky.
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>>2503946Nonnas how could I achieve this look in my sketches? I like the 2010s tumblr sketch style but mine lacks the fluidity. Whenever I go into a piece thinking I'll post it as a sketch, it ends up looking stiff with bad line weight. My sketches are too messy to clean up, and my finished art is too time consuming and neat to look loose. I use an outdated version of manga studio so my brushes are either too soft: airbrush, lighter pencil and watercolor, or the pen and oil brushes which are too sharp. Looking for a good brushpack but I know a bad artist blames her tools, so I want to practise technique first.
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Has any of you seen this?
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>>2505646The newer art is more stiff and boring to look at. Her style in-between was a nice middle-ground.
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>>2505646i don't like when people criticize art for having exaggerated proportions. 'where are her organs!!!' mfs. i like the new body type better but I also love when people stylize female bodies in cartoons (unless it's coomer shit). i have no strong feelings about her art but it does seem like her improvement has stagnated. the dull colours over a grey background are not helping.
haven't been keeping up with brujo as much as other nonnies so correct me if I am wrong - but kate is supposed to be a social outcast? i think that shows a but more clearly in her new design. she used to be just as skinny, pretty, and feminine as the popular girls but she was a nlog outcast for uhh. liking rock music and having dyed hair or something. i do not like the way she is smirking at me in picrel though lol. also seems like her new art has a lot of unnecessary extra lines.
>>2506267tiktokers and normies have recently discovered the word lolcow. i think a lot of them think it just means 'person lots of people make fun of online'. maybe they actually are a lolcow, but I doubt it. likely they just got bullied a bit online.
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>>2506309yup it's her, check out the twitter account attached
https://x.com/TOONGlRL No. 2506466
>>2506091This is a take that is made after just waking up, but I think this is less to do with "2010s style" and more to do with that era of artist being more willing to upload any ans everything during that period. On Tumblr, everyone had less professionalism, and would upload their WIPs, tutorials, and resources openly.
That being said, the fluidity you seek is likely acheivable through brute force. My own sketches were really stiff for a time as well, but doing
daily, timed gesture drawings will loosen you up. The shorter the time period given to draw, the more you'll be forced to draw what you believe are the key parts of the subject. I know it sounds irrelevant, but once you build this warm up into your daily routine, it becomes a habit. The faster you draw, the more loose, and then you'll be doing the same thing in casual sketches.
May I ask what tablet model you use? I also recommend upping the sensitivity of your brushes (presuming Manga Studio is in fact Clip Studio Paint) so that the line weight is more openly reflected by your strokes.
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>>2506267This bitch is trying too hard to fit in. I hope her followers know that this is the "
twansphobic" site not the 4troon one so they can fuck right off
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>>2506091samefag as
>>2506466>My sketches are too messy to clean up I took a second glance of your post and only really answered two of your concerns kinda. The key to a clean sketch is to use fewer lines overall. The chicken-scratch method can end up
hurting more than helping, so learning to achieve things with fewer lines (i.e. two lines for the arms, one line for the neck, fewest strokes imaginable) should help too. I can post some examples in a bit when I get back to my computer.
>my finished art is too time consuming and neat to look loose. This one is curious. I wonder if you are hard-locking yourself into a specific way of rendering finished art products. May benefit you to experiment a bit, but I think that's where new brushes come into play. If you start using CSP, I can throw you my "graphite" brush that glides beautifully for screen-less tablets like the Intuos. Though, settings vary per person.
>I use an outdated version of manga studio so my brushes are either too soft: airbrush, lighter pencil and watercolor, or the pen and oil brushes which are too sharp. Looking for a good brushpack I highly recommend making your own brushes. Texture could help, since traditional media seems to rely heavily on textures. (oil versus watercolor, charcoal versus ink, etc)
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>>2506541Sweet; we would have the same setup if you do end up switching to CSP. I can spoon feed you tips and tricks on CSP if you're interested in the other thread so I don't much this one up with screencaps and drawings kek
You can also move windows around to mimic your manga studio layout!
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>>2506633nta I wonder what it's like to have a skinwalker. I got frustrated with my own friend for taking my characters and swapping their aspects around. To have someone full-on skinwalk me seems terrifying.
Though a style I THOUGHT I came up with in the earlier days on tumblr is commonplace. Maybe I am not creative.
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>>2506460when will she fucking leave the internet for good? im dead serious
this canihaveapromo shit has been running since 2023-2022, and i still see this artcow everywhere, she was milky in like early 2024, but every 1/5th post on art tiktok drama is about this one girl, you cant search “anime art” without getting trillions of reposts of her low quality artwork on pinterest either, when will it fade until irrelevancy ?
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>>2506709samefag, another niche artcow for comparison, this artist (in the picture) got cancelled on tiktok for like a few months, and sure there were some artstyle replicas, dramas and reuploads that went on for a bit too long, but then after a while she faded into irrelevance, and everyone forgot about her and her artwork and moved on. that simple.
the thing is canihaveapromo is a self admitted attention seeker and people still keep giving her “all press is good press” clout. she got outed as a “
problematic” YEARS AGO and her name is still brought up which i really dont get in comparison with other hated artists. not even brujo ari is this annoying because her artwork isnt crammed and reuploaded in everyones for you pages and she doesnt engage with trolls or haters.
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>>2506713Miku doesn't need to be drawn with more balls tyvm. Testicular torsion Gakupo though…
>>2506674Lack of creativity and envy, either due to being a child or being lazy and shallow. These types of people find something they like and want to have it and be as popular as them. For example when Dollieguts drama was at its peak, the amount of skinwalkers was also at its highest because so many people wanted a slice of attention pie. I have a friend who gets regularly skinwalked and sometimes they copy shit like her bio and her interests (she mentions how she likes green apples one day, skinwalkers make a huge post about how much they like green apples the next), it's very bizarre and abnormal behaviour.
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>>2506709Her last post on twitter was from 16 Dec last year. Is she offline or she is talking with internet friends on discord?
>>2506736Imo all her problems came from the fact that she built up a chronically online tiktok audience at a young age and inability to stop feeding the trolls
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>>2506267I remember seeing the loli gijinka somewhere but not on toyhouse.
lolis are banned on toyhouse, she shouldn't be up
>>2506329she owns characters made by her though
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>>2506826I mean loli as in lolicon and shotacon, normal child characters are okay.
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>>2506737>For example when Dollieguts drama was at its peak, the amount of skinwalkers was also at its highest because so many people wanted a slice of attention pie.Kinda what happened with that fatfurry kiwifams cow
who i wont name because she always self searches, and actively reads her thread btw now shes completely unapologetic to being a degenerate into diapershit, interacting with paraphiliacs, and being okay with her polish tranny boyfriend being racist while she cries about how calling her out for intracting with freaks is "queer/tim/
poc persecution" and "pedojacketing"
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>>2506960I know i can but she's so obnoxious i don't even want to kek
Also dont want the thread to derail into pro/anti discussion
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oh shit genice responded nooo she shouldve kept ignoring her
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>>2507027She was doing so well, really should have just left it be. At least she seems far more reasonable than Juby.
Anyways archived link just in case:
https://archive.is/durvd No. 2507097
>>2507027that retard she couldve just ignored it
>>2507089thank you for your service nona i cant listen to that bpdemon for more than a minute.
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>>2507092I definitely plan to! The context was that in March, Genice was at Kawaii Kon in Hawaii. She had previously attended with Juby and they tabled together in 2024. Juby got
triggered by this and was jealous that Genice was enjoying herself in Hawaii while she was stuck working under a deadline and suffering from a kidney infection. I found the clip for you. Later on in the stream, she basically blamed Genice for causing her kidney infection and making her sick
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>>2507029>The language I used in that document is inappropriate outside of Christian contexts, and should have only been exchanged among trusted individuals, with consent from all parties.i wouldn’t say it’s appropriate within a ”christian context” either, trying to invoke jesus in a fight over donut steel OCs seems like blasphemy if anything kek.
she really shouldn’t have adressed the schizo manifesto at all, claiming juby gave her symptoms of psychosis makes genice sound ridiculous. she should’ve just ignored it or said she was trolling. i can’t wait to see how juby will sperg about this though.
>>2507089doing god’s work nonna
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>>2507138To be fair, a lot of people said that Genice seemed like she was having a psychotic breakdown and criticized Juby for annotating the manifesto. She might have addressed the manifesto because of that. Definitely excited to see Juby's response. She often streams at this time so she's probably awake right now. I'd love to be a fly on the wall and listen to her reaction kek
>>2507142No problem! I'm actually not even sure Genice was at Kawaii Kon this year. I don't think she posted about it on social media, but I could be wrong. It'd be funny if Juby had that meltdown over nothing.
>i wonder if they gave sympathy to genice which is why juby sperged out about thatUnfortunately, I don't think we'll ever know. Juby did mention that a mutual told her Genice was defending herself, so she has at least one person keeping tabs on Genice
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>>2507027Noooo, it was so obvious that Juby was desperate for a reaction, I thought Genice was at least subconsciously aware of this and purposefully not giving her what she wanted. Juby is probably beaming inside right now.
To be fair, it seems Genice gets more professional work than Juby, so maybe she was more concerned about potential commissioners/employers finding Juby's callout post (average company is probably not gonna delegate a whole person to comb through all the docs and comments and quote tweets and go hunt for 6 months worth of twitch archives to verify that the billion page callout wasn't made by a semi-schizo BPDemon out for blood over a petty vendetta) and missing out on work opportunities, rather than just the internet shit flinging side of it. Juby did say she wanted to ruin Genice's career.
I can't completely call her a retard for responding, but I really hope she actually sticks to "not making further comments".
>>2507142The way Juby sperged about it, it sounded like the "lies" were just Genice saying something like "I did not copy her OCs on purpose as part of a machiavelian scheme to ruin Juby's life" and Juby getting mad that she couldn't convince their mutual friends that Genice is a literal demon. It was also obviously just an excuse to publically name Genice, so it's too dumb and meaningless to bother responding to at all.
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>>2507029semi-ot but the protagonist for eden's gate is really cute. a shame the whole thing had to be scrapped because of a bpdemon from an artist 10 years genice's senior.
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>>2507321Yeah I correct myself, they met in person when Genice is roughly 17-18 years at 2016 and became close friends at 2018 at 19.
No. 2507345
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>>2507262Yeah, before Juby’s callout, from how much she ranted I was expecting the mcs to look similar or something. But from what’s been shown so far, Genice’s project actually looks quite different (and possibly more interesting) kek??
No. 2507549
>>2507397Wasn't Juby's story just about what a poor widdle
victim her self insert is because she's just too nice kek
No. 2507772
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I know v1v404 was discussed last thread, but are there any other artists who do anime characters with realistic rendering like a figure that this thread would recommend?
No. 2508338
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>>250833314 hours no sweat. My body gives out before my will does (my legs fall asleep).
No. 2508393
File: 1746232508393.jpg (Spoiler Image,122.38 KB, 1046x1200, turkey.jpg)
is this the first time she's drawn them fucking unironically?
No. 2508402
>>2508393What the fuck did I just look at
>>2507799ayrt In a perfect world, it'd be something like a tutor helping another artist on a one-on-on level. Something about a personal approach feels better than just sitting in a class and potentially getting left behind.
No. 2508479
>>2505488Wow that makes a lot of sense lol. I wonder if they'll ever find out how Brujo had a meltdown over people preferring Mary to Kate way back.
>>2507089Thank you nonna.
>>2507345Oh wow, I was harsh on Genice for the weird manifesto and because she admitted to it but looking on this now she was likely trying to placate Juby or something. Visually speaking Juby's project looks more generic in comparison. These characters don't read the same at all let alone the style. This was no doubt about Genice nearly releasing her project before her, my sides.
No. 2508541
File: 1746241299597.jpg (Spoiler Image,87.04 KB, 1348x1004, kate.JPG)
>>2508393>skinny girls look good in clothes>curvy girls look good nakedCringe as hell kek
No. 2508559
>>2508499god youre right kek and theyre both painfully unsexy
>>2507772theres a japanese artist called kinutaku on twitter who shamelessly ripped off her artstyle if you really want more of it
No. 2508560
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I'd like these characters better if they were lesbians rather than a spicy straight couple with a TiF and a man.
No. 2508561
>>2508393Like the other anons pointed out, long as fuck broken arms, the scary pitch black rape dungeon void background, the positioning being incorrect so the only way that could work is it being anal. Jesus christ, should have just drawn them fingering each other.
>>2508541This one I do like though.
No. 2508777
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I want to a-log pickme artists so fucking bad, there's this one I came across who drew horse and dog bestiality of her self insert and tweets about brocon and lolishit games constantly although at that point it could very well just be a troon/male larping. It's so fucking cringe to try to be the sexy relatable cool girl for absolute bottom-tier retard coomer males. She(?) tweets about being married. Also, apparently her family used to be in a cult.
No. 2508780
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>>2508777If I had a nickel for every degen artist that talks about showing their family porn (Fanny, Dickishly's friend and now this lady) I'd have 3 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened 3 times right?
Jokes aside, it can't be this normalized to show your family porn you make in these coom artist circles right?
No. 2508825
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have nonas seen this meme trying to bait mossa? kek
No. 2508840
>>2508829I'd guess it was a scrote considering how racist and sexist it is except for
>professional and published guy with family draws armour the popular art of knights and armor is mostly all AI now, too
No. 2508894
>>2508393>>2508890it's because they're fucking in the void
>>2508850obviously a woman because she babygirls male characters but she's a pussy for not calling the armor guys autistic faggots.
No. 2508895
>>2508825Kekkk, she is
so fucking jealous of whoever the "rococo blogger" is supposed to be
No. 2508934
>>2508908Yeah, just draw what you're into. I love how bodies lay and how fat disperses when meeting with a surface and being pulled down by gravity. I used to get paid to draw coom so my shit is probably lifeless, but I enjoy drawing spicy art of my favorite characters.
I'm not gonna pretend that I can make something with sovl, so I try to make up for it by being anatomically sound.
No. 2508966
>>2506091>sketches too messyMy sketches also used to be
very messy, I 'fixed' this by adding some limitations when I drew– no erasing/using pens only, and starting the drawing again if I fucked something up rather than editing it. It's rough at first, but it teaches you to both get the line you
want to put down right first, and to also not be so precious about sketches (eg thinking that you've drawn the arm perfect and will never match it again, even though you fucked up the torso/perspective and then trying to edit into looking right. You drew it right once, you can draw it right again, and the practice will make you more likely to do so next time as well).
>general lack of fluidity/finished art not retaining sketch fluidityGoing off the above, try and get your sketch lines to be roughly your 'final' lines– keep them clean, using as few as possible, and make sure the information they convey is 'focused' (sketches can often appear to have more fluidity due to an abundance of lines, which allows your eye to sorta fill in blanks and see the best forms by averaging them out, which you can lose when you clean the sketch or do lineart. Having fewer, more confident and decisive lines in your sketch will help to avoid this). Try to incorporate more long and flowing/energetic lines/shapes while constructing your forms.
>picrelimo this sketch was likely done over the top of a rougher or construction drawing layer, and has had some clean up/line thickness added as well in key areas. Only bringing this up because a lot of 'sketch' art will not be the
literal first sketch and will instead have a couple of layers or rounds of editing behind it that you don't see, and that's good to keep in mind when setting goals for your art. Familiarity with a subject will also allow you to draw them much more cleanly and fluidly than if you're hopping from subject to subject, which can be particularly noticeable with fanart.
>brushesYour picrel looks like it's been done with a simple hard round brush with pressure based opacity and thickness. Imo, the best brushes to sketch with are the ones that 'feel' best to use, which sounds weird, I know, but you'll get it once you find one.
Lastly, the other anon is spot-on about regularly doing timed gesture studies, and I'll also suggest looking into resources/exercises for animation and breaking down a sketch with the kind of flow you like to figure out what's making it work as well. Hope any of this waffle was helpful, and good luck with your sketching anon!
No. 2508974
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>>2508850damn her men are ugly
>>2508894>she's a pussy for not calling the armor guys autistic faggots.Truth. Incredibly cringe she insults other women while giving autistic white moids obsessed with history a free pass
No. 2509049
File: 1746289791843.png (Spoiler Image,1.15 MB, 1046x1200, lesbians.png)
>>2508393Whatever
(spoiler) No. 2509056
>>2509049Better but please spoiler nonna
>>2508393They never draw TIFs with accurate proportions, y so much upper body? Is jotaroTIF supposed to be a gym bro. This looks so stiff.. maybe she is an aceggot
>>2508432Sometimes strap can stimulate the clit (sometimes) but I doubt brujo was going for that and she just wanted it to be a robopenis
No. 2509063
File: 1746290780578.png (413.72 KB, 622x633, 532025.png)
lol at his friend drawing him as a hulking mass compared to everybody else when hes pretty open about wishing he was a le delicate uwu anime girl
No. 2509107
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>>2509063can you aussie fucks edit your photos for the rest of us?
No. 2509307
>>2508541Figure drawing is fun. Stylized cartoon characters like Trent from Daria and Patti from Doug are fun to draw. Cartoon head on realistic body is always so uncanny though. This could have been two different sketches and she might even have gotten some practice rendering facial features from different angles, but no. It's 3/4 angle Patti Mayonnaise with cellulite time.
Kind of tangential, but everything this woman does shouts "BDD/ED/intensely preoccupied with women's bodies" to me. I like the art styles she's going for and everything, but
>>2508541 is just about body and
>>2506432 is just about clothing and even the teaser clip of Jotaro and Kakyoin answering fanmail (?) had her replying to a letter about her boobs. It's not a crime or anything but it feels like an odd fit for someone who got a tv show instead of someone who just draws pinups
No. 2509380
File: 1746301750265.png (1.96 MB, 1142x1510, dfghjk.png)
>Anon, can you check out this drawing my favorite artist made? I think she made the hands a bit weird
>Check out picrel
>Notice all of the anatomy is shit, not just the hands
I wish I was an autistic renderfag who gets hundreds of thousands of followers. It's also weird because the artist isn't even that bad with anatomy, so I don't know how she fucked up this much in this specific piece?
No. 2509455
File: 1746304130047.jpeg (251.16 KB, 1400x1355, FPRp3tGWQAIE2Ws.jpeg)
>>2507772rofortyseven and achoooshi
No. 2509600
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>>2508825Good time to bring this up. There's this one animu historical artist who gives off a lot of Mossa vibes called Wass_nonnam. And of course he has a baraag account, but the way he draws lolis looks like he traces from cp, he seems to be Ukrainian because he retweets Ukraine news and artists so he definitely looks at candydoll or something similar for a reference which is fucking disgusting. I'm obviously not going to post this shit here but you can look it up yourself, his baraag account is under the same name, view at your own risk
No. 2509613
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>>2509307>Jotaro and Kakyoin Is THAT who they originally were?
No. 2509620
>>2509614she made nsfw art of her 13 year old ocs but was around the same age at the time in her defense and the art was leaked by a friend who had a vendetta (it was kept private)
honestly she got blasted for mistakes most people make as a kid. The callout doc was the final straw and as far as I know she never came back after it.
No. 2509695
>>2509614There were two callout docs, I remeber the last one being really pathetic and full of Tumblr "oh that's weirrrrrrd" hand wringing. The writers of the doc also complained about her "appropriating" the Japanese language while achoooshi herself is Chinese iirc.
>>2509687Must be nap time for the /ot/ jannies.
No. 2509698
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>>2509687Whatever you say discreet-baiter anon
(infight bait) No. 2509707
>>2509695>while achoooshi herself is ChineseIsn't she Russian?
>>2509607>I thought she DFEIdk, her twitter is still up?
https://x.com/Achoooshi No. 2509725
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>>2508908There’s no hard and fast rule for what is sexy since it’s subjective but if I were to draw a couple like that (childhood friends to lovers) I’d at least have them make eye contact or embrace, or be giggly and have little sexual preferences after knowing each other for so long . They don’t seem comfortable fucking each other at all. Their non sexual intimacy is more believable.
No. 2509817
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People say that you need to study masters to get good at drawing but what masters exactly? Classic ancient painters?
No. 2509820
File: 1746315418126.jpg (Spoiler Image,83.02 KB, 734x734, 91622836.JPG)
>>2509758>>2509762The character’s always been a tif, that’s been one of the reasons people shit on ari on these threads kek
No. 2509826
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>>2509770It’s nlog baked into her character but woke. Ari slaps the most common female tropes onto Kate but with pronouns to make her stand out and keep her gendie audience. Take away the pronoun soup and she’s a mildly quirky girl.
No. 2509861
>>2509820They look so dirty.
>>2509846Pixiv, illust.daysneo, crepu.net, Xfolio, poipiku… but most Jap artists will still be using twitter, just because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not there. Instagram is also really popular.
No. 2509862
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? Having seen this artist’s work before, I think she’s pretty good at making grounded expressive characters, but her style is kind of the last thing I’d praise. I’ve always found it generic and a bit boring, it’s the typical sketchy fauxnime which I’ve been kinda tired of seeing from western/indie comics artists.
No. 2509865
>>2509862I saw this too
nonny, I thought this was so odd when this was on my feed. I'm betting it's just one of those moids who want to act like they know more than you about lesbians or something.
No. 2509921
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i had no idea kemono or whatever its spelled leaks patreon content, I would kill for an archived link of Koko's safe storyboarding/art works though.
No. 2509932
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>>2509874>>2509865I don't know about whoever is QRTing, but the artist is a TIF.
No. 2509935
>>2509857This (
>>2509049 ) nona did, but she was silenced (forgot to spoiler)
No. 2510070
File: 1746329949384.jpg (Spoiler Image,565.11 KB, 1170x1130, “comphet lesbian” sucking dick…)
>ive drawn clare sucking dick a few times and i think it made some terf adjacent/gold star lesbian ppl really mad but its not my fault she looks good doing it
Yeah, fuck this artist lol
No. 2510157
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>>2509613Oh
nonny… you didn't realize that Brujoari's OCs are Mexican/Japanese femboy tif Kakyoin and male-passing tif Jotaro in a gay trans t4t Y2K AU? Kek
No. 2510166
>>2509817it depends on what you mean by "get good", but if you mean being able to draw a wide range of things well (regarding colour, composition, anatomy, poses, perspective), studying ancient artists is certainly one way you could do it. studying artists that are proficient (or artists that you like in general) is just as good. it's important to keep in mind what you intend to improve when doing these studies, which is why i personally divide my studying into categories (figure drawing one session, recreating the values of a painting i like the next, dicking around and seeing how i've improved the next next). plus, ancient artists didn't have loomis or anything and just studied from life a lot of the time. most importantly, have fun
No. 2510207
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>>2510070Actually pissed me off so bad I had to draw this to calm me down (Basically telepathically sending the energy back to them by drawing something worse)
No. 2510229
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>>2508825You guys forgot to add mossa’s response
No. 2510320
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>>2510275How I wish this scum was in jail, and how I wish I were Korean so I could make it happen. We literally have his face, his date of birth,
and maybe an approximate location based on his old photos and selfies (and it's obvious that his banking information with his real name and address is linked to his fanbox account) and his baraag account full of evidence of him drawing things that are literally illegal in Korea.
No. 2510365
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>>2510275If there was any female artists who had the guts to be this type of gross and condemnable and didn't care about sucking up to a proper image + had same level of expressive talent; I'd be her stan till the end of days. Feel free to share or be. Proliferation of soshite made questionable art way more appealing and I hate that women always just do whatever suckciety says.
No. 2510531
>>2509817You are looking in the wrong places for advice, I think. Fuck the "masters", tutorials that help expand your mind can come from literally anyone and everyone at any given point in your life. Study reality itself, "fundamentals" such as basic shapes and 3d objects, and open your mind to the rules of nature so that you can break it as you please.
That is how you get good!
No. 2510630
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didnt this sick bitch use the same watercolor pic for her old banner?
Without context I thought this was one of her many pedo oc pairings but turns out its how she depicts HERSELF and her ugly husband, what the fuck
No. 2510725
>>2510717if it doesnt compare why even bring it up by saying something like
>If there was any female artists who had the guts to be this type of gross and condemnablewhen talking about some pedophile drawing little girls getting raped? it doesn't seem like its implying "a woman and a man having sex" because whats gross and condemnable about that??
No. 2510726
>>2510653speaking of which, is there like a popular female counterpart artist? even the most raging shotafags ive seen dont get this degenerate but then again ive not seen many
or they kept theirs under lock and key, who knows
No. 2510737
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>>2510730not sure if it belongs here but the shotafag talk reminded me of this chick
>becomes viral overnight in the height of the Pandemic because she'd promote her family's farmer market's avocado stand dressed in picrel's costume whilst singing and dancing to the top of her lungs on social media>a performing arts academy grants her a full ride scholarship after she makes it to the news outlet, get a song made about her lines by a popular music producer in her country>somehow people found her facebook where she'd DRAW and share explicit older woman x little boy animu art>dfe and is never heard/seen of again No. 2510900
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>>2510861Got curious and found out her name is Rubí Guerra Huisa. You can easily find her abandoned twitter that has some sketches like picrel and it seems like she's active on tiktok but she doesn't post anything related to art. I really wonder what the stuff she was called out for must've looked like
No. 2510927
>>2510374here's an archive
aHR0cHM6Ly9ib29ydS5hbGx0aGVmYWxsZW4ubW9lL3Bvc3RzP3RhZ3M9dGJyYWlucm90
No. 2510944
>>2510932Are we pretending that there isn’t a whole category of women that go into teaching and nursing specifically so that they can prey on children?
The average woman would be disgusted by kiddie exploitation material yeah, but the ones who follow it are also the ones more likely to be impregnated by forcing themselves onto their fourth graders
Are you retarded? Just because it isn’t AS BAD doesn’t mean that’s it isn’t bad.
(derailing) No. 2510998
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>>2510365Does snugglepuff counts as prolific degenerate female artist? Gender isn't stated but I feel like she's definitely female/tif due to her obsession with bishounen characters like Scaramouche and Thirstle
No. 2511006
>>2510998literally what I was talking about in here
>>2510971, she's definitely a woman, iirc she had a carrd with info about her ocs and most of them were some flavor of gendie, so there's that too. I've never seen a moid do that with their ocs.
No. 2511103
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>>2511090>possummachineSnuggle is mutuals with them. They post cosplay photos under Possumposse99, she seems to be a woman but maybe I'm retarded. If poss is a woman then she's an ultra pickme who panders to porn addicted moids
No. 2511120
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>>2511112Samefag, shitty collage but these were the accounts they followed
No. 2511122
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Also self admitted pedo
No. 2511129
>>2510998>also draws loli Degenerate yes, but not the kind I'd support though, so doesn't count to me personally, I want male ryona art.
>>2511047Male anyway
No. 2511145
>>2511120Christ, I wasn't expecting to be jumpscared by
real children. Lolifaggots should all face the wall.
No. 2511166
File: 1746404336070.jpeg (593.1 KB, 3264x1836, IMG_8744.jpeg)
Saw this tweet on my timeline. My first thought was if his sister could’ve possibly been trans but that was probably me being terminally online. I searched for mentions of sister on his account and well…
Side note, I remember this guy bitching about anime expo’s newest artist alley rules where they introduced a lottery system this year, and how veterans like him were getting fucked over because it was their livelihood. What did we think about the new lottery system, was it ever discussed here? Personally I think it was a nice change, I saw so many big entitled artists be upset at anime expo not inviting them again. Mind you these people have been getting invited to the largest anime con in America for consecutive years. At the same time, I saw many people get invited for the first time, so that’s nice
No. 2511243
File: 1746407455018.png (Spoiler Image,1.65 MB, 1300x975, 1719244982.grau_edenref_postiz…)
Spoilered for furfaggotry
Thoughts on using AI-generated backgrounds with intent to blur the everloving fuck out of them to make as backgrounds for refsheets? I think it would beat using images scavenged from Google without credit, especially if done for a paying client that is focusing on the characters presented.
No. 2511292
>>2511273I am
relatively sure this specific artist just takes things from Google without crediting photographers, and then charges up the ass for it. You could also just use the airbrush, but using a free AI generator to make some mutated image with neat colors, plop it on the back in several seconds seems like it'd be convenient in my opinion. So, in essence, for convenience.
No. 2511323
File: 1746411805588.png (Spoiler Image,300.91 KB, 687x574, airbrush dookie.png)
>>2511292NTA but it takes less time to do random airbrushing than it would to generate a image and then gaussian blur it (picrel took 1 minute with a mouse), also stock images exist…
No. 2511326
>>2511243If you blur or paint over the background it doesn't really matter imo especially for a character ref sheet where the character information should be the most important part
Unless drawing backgrounds by hand is something you regularly do and a part of your artist image I guess
No. 2511458
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just saw an artist with the shittiest unsexiest porn art ive ever seen with almost 20k followers… drawing porn really is a hack to getting popular, tf
No. 2511750
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I know I'm being petty here. I am positive of it.
But whenever I see beginner level artists getting expensive set-ups, it is insane to me. All that money so that you can just fucking suck ass on expensive equipment. It's not for you, it's for assisting people who actually can fucking draw. I remember seeing an extremely expensive screen tablet go to some 15 year old coomer womb-tattoo artist and god I need to find the screen cap. Her art was atrocious and she refused to listen to the older members of the art server to stop posting sexualized coomslop.
Yes. I am bitter because I can't afford it.
No. 2511752
>>2511714You are only a furry if you have a fursona. It's like kissing another woman. You kissed her. Are you a lesbian now? No. Only if that's what you
prefer. The Sailor Moon artist drawing art for Brand New Animal doesn't make her a furry. Hope that helps.
No. 2511754
>>2511714yes but it's okay
>>2511750People watch movies while drawing?
Isn't that distracting?
No. 2511763
>>2511714No, you are not a furry for drawing anthropomorphic characters. Not even coomers who draw furry coom just sometimes are.
Being a furry means being part of the furry community. It means having a fursona, actively partecipating in furry communities and basically mostly getting into media that features furries. It's an alt lifestyle and a cringe-ass one at that, with many disgusting people that only the most autistic would be ok with associating with.
The whole "If you draw anthros it means you're a furry!!!" scare is a relic from the old internet where furries were bullied and they desperately needed material to clapback at trolls by showing them how even normal artists like Beatrix Potter were furries. It also is part of their cult-like behaviors where they scream ONE OF US! ONE OF US! at anyone who enjoys drawing furry-adjacent things ranging from anthros, cartoon animals, et cetera.
Then retards who hate furries also started calling everyone who draws anthros furries and they extended this idiocy to characters with animal ears, basically doing the work of furry fandom zealots for them.
Hell, if we want to make real life examples, have you ever seen VivziePop call herself a furry despite drawing the cringiest sparkledogs of all time? She even sexualizes them (ew).If she isn't a furry, neither are you.
It's all about your attitude, what you do, what you draw and how you live it.
tl;dr: no, draw your cute anthros in peace and don't give furfags attention.
No. 2511770
>>2511750unless I completely missed the mark on what model that tablet in your picrel is, it's only a couple hundred bucks? I believe in your ability to save up for that anon! don't let your screen tablet dreams be dreams!
also tbh I kinda hate the idea that you have to reach a certain arbitrary skill level to be 'worthy' of a piece of tech or type of art supply, but if it really bothers you so much, think of it instead as a potential opportunity– artists with little to no skills who rush to jump into the deep end of set ups tend to also be the type to get bored and eventually sell their otherwise fine tablets etc for cheap on the secondhand market.
No. 2511776
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>>2511770My Intuos was 50USD and that wiped my account. I appreciate the support. Being poor is stupid. I don't know, I'm just fuckin jealous. I've been using this goddamn thing forever. I love my tablet and all, but seeing this guy just start drawing last year or whatever and go "I'm one of you!" I wanna snap his neck.
I know it's petty and makes no sense. I know! But I can't shake this feeling.
>artists with little to no skills who rush to jump into the deep end of set ups tend to also be the type to get bored and eventually sell their otherwise fine tablets etc for cheap on the secondhand marketGimme that sweet, sweet second hand screenie tablet. (Watch my ancient ass be unable to figure out how to use it kek)
No. 2512019
File: 1746469485144.jpg (68.32 KB, 675x675, huh.jpg)
>>2508338kinda late but any tips for your hand not hurting? i just have to stretch mine for some time and massage my arm and then rest for a while or stop drawing
idk if any other nonnies have this too, i know it happens to everyone but i dont think it happens in short periods of time (2 hrs) and kind of like…intensely?
No. 2512064
>>2512026oh i dont mean like that intense just like my arm being overall tired despite not drawing for too long and holding my pencil right, although i admit i had a shitty way of holding pencils since i was a kid and stopped it to draw better. i guess its not like an intense pain its just like the muscle feels a bit tight but its all individual, but i'll ask at my next check up, thanks
nonny!
>>251202i think most people on social media just want constant compliments on everything they do, and since they're so used to getting praise, at some point they just arent able to handle criticism and they also dont care since their art already gets them the attention they want so they act like any criticism (even when positive and somewhat obvious) is hate
>>2512053maybe look up some fashion magazines that were active during that era and look them up by name and year/number? anna's archive has a filter for magazines if that helps, you could also try to look up on blogspots
No. 2512065
>>2512053Hey nona here's one link
https://archive.org/details/i-d-magBut I do all my searching for that on archive.org. if you're into jfashion its all there. There's tons. I wouldn't bother with Pinterest. Best of luck
No. 2512073
>>2512019ayrt I was taught not to have a death grip on my pencil for this very reason. Try to loosen how hard you're holding things. Stretches help a lot. Heating packs kek I had to wear a wrist support brace during the roughest times. I think I have some sort of issue with my knuckles, but I power through it because I have a problem.
>>2512027Absolutely. Most artists can't kek
No. 2512200
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it's incredible how often i've seen this image used as a reference or just straight up traced onto some random character without any credit
No. 2512222
>>2512019I used to have an L shaped desk and monitors scattered about my desk, so drawing always had me in an uncomfortable position that led to wrist pain. Changed desks and monitor layout and no more wrist pain. Try adjusting your drawing area so your hand is resting where you find it comfortable while you draw, make sure it's to your eye level, basically any advice for proper typing applies to drawing if that makes sense
Other than that idk pain meds before you start drawing or taking a hot shower to loosen your muscles
No. 2512242
File: 1746477607128.jpg (556.31 KB, 1512x1945, slop.jpg)
>aifag training AI on idolomantises’ art
And nothing of value was taken
No. 2512365
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>>2512073>>2512222thx nonnies i guess ill try to watch my grip and the way my hands are positioned!
No. 2512391
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>>2512239trigger warning for the most ruined piece of artwork in the world
No. 2512407
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>>2512391Got you beat by a country mile.
No. 2512416
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>>2512413Anon please find that drawing my fucking sides.
No. 2512424
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>>2512407So many pieces of art ruined by over appropriation. It's less common nowadays but it still physically pains me whenever I see a Scream repaint.
No. 2512425
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>>2512416NTA but if it's another one besides this I'm gonna kek. Bonus misspelling.
>>2512424Let's not even get into the matter of poor Starry Night…
No. 2512429
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>>2512407>>2512391>>2512424Also this recent vintage pinup. I'm so tired of this "redraw a character or your oc in this image" trend with zero creativity put into it, online spaces feel less fun nowadays and most artists just want to farm free likes and virtue signal
No. 2512439
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>>2512391it's this one for me kek
No. 2512459
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>>2512416here
>>2512425sure is. also, disgusting
No. 2512472
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>>2512391birth of venus and all of old masters famous paintings that get "troonified" plus the last supper
No. 2512492
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>>2512391For me it was this photoshoot. It would've been easy enough to make something inspired by it but no, everyone just redrew it 1:1. It's lost all appeal to me since
>>2512453Yeah, it's the same as fandoms condensing characters down to the same few tropes and it really shows how little creativity the artist has
No. 2512519
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>>2512251>>2510630this might be the most damning and blatant piece of evidence, I had no idea she used the fame lolishit patron as a uwu cute daily live blog. I hope she gets exposed soon
No. 2512526
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>twitter screencap thread
anyone know what the context of this is?
No. 2512557
>>2512528it was mercuriangel, its just so weird seeing such shitty stiff art with thousands of followers when i see better artists with less than 500 followers all the time. algorithms are so weird. id post a picture but its nsfw obvs
>>2512542that video linked the voice actors and the fox was an actual guy
No. 2512561
>>2512526This artist was a pro storyboarder, when the animation industry went down the shitter she attempted to make and market her own original story, Enceladus V. She posted it to youtuber, twitter and notably, tiktok. It was made in a vertical format. Well, tiktok took down her video and banned her account because the automod thought she was reposting commercial content and she wasn't able to get it appealed. She had the most engagement on tiktok so losing her account was a big blow.
She's been really open about how time consuming and expensive indie animation is. Generally people only notice the ones that are successful, those that fail recede from memory and the creators fade away. I think she's been as vocal as she has because the success of things like Murder Drones have given a lot of people unrealistic expectations for the future of indie animation. Anna is frustrating to follow not because she's a cow but because she obviously feels negative about her experiences and because she's not bitching about nothing, she just keep getting L's. For her sanity I think she should delete all social media and pivot to a completely different industry.
No. 2512588
>>2512580yeah, someone made a thread about her on /co/
>>2512576She was just a storyboarder not a director or writer I don't think she had a lot of pull to insert her fetishes (also isn't she a lesbian married to a woman?). I vaguely remember reading the /snow/ thread where she was discussed and it was screencaps of the characters standing close together so if that was fetish shit it was pretty mild and not something I was able to pick up on so I don't really care. I will agree I think her story pitch felt really generic and lacked the appeal to become popular. Would have worked better as prose but I'm still skeptical.
No. 2512591
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any nonas here familiar with shortbox comic fest?
>shortbox is a month long digital event where artists debut a new comic for people to purchase
>creator of the event had a melty when cartoonist coop revealed a similar event in may where artists can also debut comics online for purchase
>she said that anyone participating in events that “plagiarized” her hard work would be blacklisted from applying to shortbox
>may is here and artists who got in the cartoonist coop event are sharing and announcing their comics
>already seeing artists who’ve participated in shortbox (and got invited for more than one year) be involved in the event
kekk i wish more nonas were familiar with shortbox because this whole situation has milk potential, the creator is genuinely milky. i’m dying to know what her reaction is to artists she’s accepted to her shortbox event “backstab” her by joining the cartoonist coop event
No. 2512607
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>>2512591more info on the creator, zainab akhtar. typical sjw, called a comic event held in england “too white”
https://youtu.be/SjOSezvQ1zk?si=_f9vRV7PzgwoaGne and canceled her appearance at a con because of some guy
>The person behind ShortBox (Zainab Akhtar, who is a Muslim woman) told Thought Bubble that they weren't comfortable with Frank Miller being a guest due to his anti-Muslim work. Thought Bubble decided to keep Frank Miller as a speaker anyways so she announced that she would no longer be attending Thought Bubble, not wanting to give a platform to those who espouse hatred of any kind.>ShortBox is pretty notable and award-winning, so their absence is kind of a big deal. So, with ShortBox bowing out, Thought Bubble had the publicity to drop Frank Miller.and more info about shortbox itself: basically it might be the biggest online art-centered fair and it is highly competitive, the amount of applications it gets each year rises and this year it got +1.9k applications, but only around ~130 get accepted. mind you, zainab will often re-invite artists who got in for consecutive years, while countless artists will keep getting rejected kek.
so this event is pretty damn hard to get in, the indie comic scene is already a place that needs as much support and uplifting, so having her be a narcissist and gatekeep more ways of artists to spread their work is laughable.
there’s a 95% that the new event cartoonist coop announced last year is the reason for her melty in the previous reply, called “nib & ink festival”
>A new member-run online comics fest happening ALL OF MAY!!! Featuring a marketplace to buy digital comics, free comic zines, plus panels, workshops, & other events throughout the month! No. 2512611
>>2512317Oi I didn't give up I still use it every day, it just pisses me off kek. Working with a screen tablet is hard though, I have such a bad posture while drawing with it. Problems specific to this tablet are that sometimes the cursor is just not where the pen tip is, and the pressure is, idk how to phrase, not smooth? There's a huge jump from "light touch/featherlight line" to "slightly lighter touch/much thicker line" and it's annoying as hell.
>>2512311Kamvas 13. It's the only huion I've tried so take it with a grain of salt
No. 2512615
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>>2512607zainab will often accept people with the shittiest and most amateur-y art into shortbox kek, which is pretty common in the indie comic scene i guess
when it’s application response season from shortbox, it’s so funny how artists like these will get accepted while countless artists with genuinely good art will tweet “ah got rejected from shortbox again :/“
she certainly has no problem accepting most artists with a huge following though kek, that tranny @jdebbiel got in 2023
No. 2512772
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>>2512557Checked her account out and I found it weird that most of her drawings only had ~700 likes. Then I saw that these are her most popular posts. She probably gained the biggest chunk of followers from these, relatable or meme slop is the real shortcut. I had one silly doodle blow up to 30k likes overnight and it got me like 4k new followers (which made me feel weird because they couldn't have been interested in my actual art but whatever). But she's also had the account since 2019 which means it took her 6 years to get to around 20k followers. Nothing to get salty or jealous over imo
No. 2512823
>>2512772Did you actually notice an increase of likes on your art post from all those new followers that came from a shitpost? My follower influx periods are usually around 50 to 200 new followers in total, and this rarely happens since I flop so much. And my increase in likes doesn’t seem very different to me, maybe like 3 or 5 more likes than usual…so a total of 30 likes kek.
It pains me when a big artist says they’re sad their stuff doesn’t get any engagement anymore, and I check their media and their posts still get an average of over 100-200 likes….i can’t even reach 50-60 likes on a good day
No. 2513317
>>2513305Yeah, I’ve considered it, but it seems pointless to make physical stuff if you’re not going to mail it to people. I wouldn’t mail stuff to underage users (a big chunk of the site), and it would still feel weird to mail stuff to adult gendies as a crypto-
TERF. Guess I could just not send the things and keep people’s OCs living in my house, kek. I also no longer post OCs of my own so it would be weird to participate at all
No. 2513761
>>2513618NTA, I did it last year and got minimal responses
besides the ones from nonnies who were lovely and the only reason I can point out why is because the teens who joined because it was a tiktok trend only joined because it's a tiktok trend, if that makes sense? They don't want to do it for the fun, they want to do it because it's "cool" and they get free art for low effort. Last year was really bad imo compared to other years and it's mostly newbies acting this way and it was mostly them crying about not getting a million attacks on the first day.
No. 2513819
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I LOVE Tarokunn's art and characters and I am so glad she dropped this fucked up head proportions she drew for a while
No. 2513969
File: 1746577329909.jpg (1.15 MB, 2436x3445, 20250506_192003.jpg)
>>2513819Wow I'd never heard of her before but her art is so cute and detailed!
No. 2513978
>>2513763"OP IM GONNA EAT THIS ASHHSJSHHWJWJKKAKS"
"omg so sigma poggers"
"i love your art please dont go bald"
Modern artists are npcs that are incapable of providing meaningful commentary or making interesting observations. The tiktokfication of language and artistry.
No. 2513981
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>>2513552>>2513618>>2513761People who leave soytier replies and actually gush about the attacks they get still very do exist, you’re just not in the right side of af probably. These people are the older gen z or millennial group, so not the average tiktok zoomie who leaves low effort comments. Just find some autists on twitter or tumblr who really, really cares about their ocs, and they’ll leave replies like this on every attack.
Of course, there’s also a chance that your attack just wasn’t that amazing…I’ve made high effort attacks in replace with quantity, such as including backgrounds often, and most if not all responses I got were genuine. I don’t think I’ve had someone never reply to my attack/revenge. Another thing to check to make sure they leave a comment and don’t ghost you is to check the attacks they’ve gotten and see if they reply on every single one. If they reply on their attacks and ghosted yours, they probably didn’t like it. Or simply forgot to reply
No. 2514022
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>omg this oc trend is so ugly amirite guys XD
>uhmm akshally it was obviously a harmless joke, my tone was playful :///
>im hiding replies that are being negative >_< this was clearly playful fun guyss i dont hate this overused trend at all!!!
Such an obnoxious cunt i want to strangle her(a-logging)
No. 2514029
>>2514022A bit related but does anyone have that drawing or meme where its like
op: ugh i hate this oc trend
reply: omg does my oc count?
[pic of oc with the trend]
op: no no your oc is gorgeous!!
It was so funny and accurate kek, I’ll be thankful for any nona who has it
No. 2514230
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allegedly 2000s accurate aiden stuff
No. 2514315
>>2514312meanwhile their facereveals always show them as an obese white woman which is why they never pass and they're constantly complaining that normies treat them as the overweight women they look like to literally everyone with eyes kekk
They are always so delusional and I bet they only trooned out because they thought it would be an out from being seen as an ugly woman (instead of just, you know, not giving a shit about society's retarded beauty standards)
No. 2514383
File: 1746617327689.jpg (2.86 MB, 2401x3000, 9780593886496.jpg)
Nonas I wanna get good at drawing anime/manga weebshit because I'm a weeb at heart. I grew up on tumblr art so I have that issue where even if I try for manga it looks like that typical tumblr western cartoon mix and I honestly despise that style so I just trash the drawings.
The question is, would it help if I literally just traced over anime drawings I like until my brain/hand remembers how to copy it by default? Or is that just lazy and bad? Obviously I wouldn't post traced drawings, they'd just be for me to practice. Does anyone else have a good/bad experience with tracing for practice?
No. 2514389
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>>2514230kek being a teenage TIF was almost unheard of in 2000
>>2514383Don't trash your style just because it's fauxime. Maybe go on Pixiv and reference how Eastern artists draw features. You'll also start to see how you draw differently from them. The artist in your picture draws noses and lips very Western but also draws different too. Stuff like that.
No. 2514420
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>>2514383Use the Japanese how to draw manga books. The ones with Japanese author names. You can find them on archive.org. they give a more authentic anime style than the how to draw books with western authors. The style is dated, but that's imo one of the positives about it. Each book has a different style. Also check out manga materials and naoki saito channels on YouTube. Live your anime dreams nonna.
No. 2514422
>>2514389>>2514418This is untrue, the verbiage was just different (I was there and one of them….) If anything, you were butch first and then might not have words for it but you just "wanted to be a guy" and got irritated when you continued to be referred to as a girl. Some people grew out of it and some people didn't and grew up to be kind of middle aged looking but ultimately normal transmen. I just don't it's possible for any zoomer to imagine it because "being trans" was a secret, there was no flag and you were trying to pass or transition and go on with your life. Most women you'd call tifs these days were also not straight. Not relevant to me anymore as I got it figured out and am just a butch lesbian now kek.
To keep this on topic, I only know this artist from these threads but the way she repeats herself through drawings (ref sheets over and over, hasty redraws of older, better works) it's not about the anatomy or the style it just looks like someone burning out in real time. She could have fattened her old style up so to speak I think she just has no idea what to do with herself.
No. 2514478
>>2514418>Why do zoomers even like the early 2000s so much if they were too young to even remember shit?you could say that about any generation. there's like a trillion nostalgiaslop shows and movies that have been made since last decade that are all essentially different flavors of
>damn remember how good the 80s were ? remember this thing from the 80s ? what about this 80s song ?!!there were literally tons of 90s nostalgia tumblr blogs in like 2012 made by highschoolers. it's not unique to any one generation but now we've got endless amounts of archival footage and blogs so millennials and the generations that came after them have more to work with than previous gens. yes it's a problem and it's getting tired because it seems as though everyone's just rehashing things and no one's innovating anymore, but that's a separate issue. i'm just so irritated by this type of comment it's not even about brujoari or zoomers. i can't stand people being willfully obtuse. ummm i mean, kids these days !
No. 2514617
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>>2514420These books are so outdated I find it funny they've been glorified over time. People scan/rip current manga how to draw books and they're far better
No. 2514621
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The backlash to this artist (llizukki)’s enderman humanization seems like a huge overreaction? Yeah her design is very basic but there’s so many posts going viral for dunking on her and now a few artists are quote retweeting her with their “better” designs, I don’t get the need to humiliate someone en masse over something this trivial.
No. 2514622
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>>2514621A lot of complaints are also about the humanization being a white man, because this minecraft mob must be black because of their color scheme kek??? And the comment about llizukki being russian is because vtory is ukrainian kek
No. 2514672
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Apparently Lottie/canihavepromo is still online and is suicidebaiting on twitter. She's not getting help anytime soon
No. 2514690
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>>2514621i don't hate the idea of a personified enderman being black, but it'd be very funny if he had an afro shaped like a block with the top flat like picrel kekk
No. 2514759
>>2514622>apparently black people can't be paleYes? Especially cuz I'm assuming trying to make a black person look pale would involve making their skin tone greyish, which would be "ashy" and an absolute no-no in online art spaces.
>>2514728This I would understand, but nowadays you can't just say a drawing is ugly/boring so wheneve twiterinas see some really lame drawing like this they always have to somehow twist it into being about some social justice crap and then get way more upitty and
triggered than they have to.
No. 2514820
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(1/2) Kaneoya is selling body pillows (I want one really badly), but she confirms that her main character is inspired by Paul McCartney. Paul and Kaneoya sisters, how do we feel about this? We have won. I’ll post the screenshot where she confirms it in the comments, she likes the comments that says she was inspired by him.
No. 2514821
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>>2514820(2/2) this is where she liked comments saying she was inspired by Paul.
No. 2514959
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Moids be training AI models on your art specifically because you hurt their ego now. This complete diarrhea of a male, faggot of course too, admited it because somebody said the classic line "you rob artists by using Ai" How spiteful can one get? How fragile the male ego is? This man is over 30 years old and this is what he does with his time because somebody send him a quite polite bit of disagreement. It is an easy way to get absolutely nobody to disagree with you, nobody will dare to speak to him about anything and he will bask in his egoism until it gets too boring and he will start programming AI on your art unprovoked. I'm physically sick, i was meditating today and felt great but this crap pissed me off again.
No. 2515007
>>2507345Came here for something else but holy shit, it's soo stupid. The desighns looks nothing alike even if the stories are, why is Judy foaming soo much? We really lost potential for something interesting over anime sameface thin line gray-ish colors pinterest clothes art no. 57 .
No wonder ker kidney is sick with how much bad karma she accumulated lol.
No. 2515065
>>2506459If anything, the new style feels
more coomerish and exaggerated to me with the thicker busts and thighs. People like to say it's more realistic, but is it really? Every female character still has an idealised "thicc" figure with a small waist. And no, giving Kate some half-assed fat rolls in ugly porn pictures doesn't count. At least the old style's lanky proportions produced unique (and period accurate, cartoon-wise) silhouettes. Nowadays Brujo's style looks like every coomer artist except she tries to jigsaw the realistic anatomy together with sharp, stylised y2k art tropes, and in my opinion it just doesn't look good at all.
>Inb4 "muh fundamentals/why do you think certain body types are inherently sexual" No. 2515204
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babe wake up the nyc retard rightoids are trying to revive futurism
No. 2515244
>>2515065>Nowadays Brujo's style looks like every coomer artistit really does, i get she's trying to make it diverse but the hourglass, busty and big hips body-type shit is not unique, especially not after every coomer on the internet tried to pass it up as fat representation or whatever
i dont think its more coomerish but it all looks weird to me because in trying to mix all those aspects shes also trying to make kate simplified, realistic and chubby/voluminous? and somewhat ideal too but not skinny but also i dont think she even wants to make her fat because she keeps giving her those weird hip lines and she even asked if/why people thought she was fat kek
but i do agree with
>>2514422 and
>>2514465 i really dont think she thought about anything getting this far and all these changes are just an attempt at trying to adapt to an actual project
No. 2515522
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>>2514315>>2514316this is literally brujo lol
trans? check. autistic? check. white? check. fat? check.
No. 2515909
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>>2515703>what is the plotVibes. It could be an episodic/semi-episodic comedy, but with this premise (picrel) it would require a lot of creativity and good comedic writing to come up with engaging episodes that don’t feel like a tired rehash of every other teenage comedy/drama/romance.
It would really help if Brujo fleshed out characters beyond just Kate and Alex, as well as developed those characters’ relationships with Kate/Alex. Because the best shows often have a well-established main cast and multiple compelling dynamics and personalities within that cast, which provides a lot of potential for episode ideas and fun interactions.
And frankly, Kate and Alex’s dynamic alone just isn’t that interesting, mainly because of Alex having the personality of sopping cardboard. There is potential if Brujo develops the dolls, that short chubby girl, and Kate’s friend group (idk if Brujo cares about them anymore, but it’d be fun having a gang of loser/outcast girls in the main cast. They could be a foil to the dolls and maybe even Kate, maybe she’s the only annoying nlog in their group kek). Alex’s friends could be interesting as side characters who appear occasionally and have their nerd/band shit going on as a subplot.
No. 2515981
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>>2515591 it also looks like shit.
the thing with these right wing fashy avant garde aesthetics is that they all think theyre say douglas p or martinetti but douglas p had a vision and it was born out of homosexual neurosis which is at least interesting . martinetti's manifesto was objectively incredibly written and a stylistic bomb despite its contents , balla and palazzoni's art for the futurist movement was also great for the time. these people think grok and anime are edgy and live in NY on daddy's check , theres nothing revolutionary about any of this
No. 2516041
File: 1746693563136.png (17 KB, 390x160, brujo.png)
>>2515983TBH I feel like the only people who care about her are zoomer artists, beginner artists and non artists. I follow over 300 artists on twitter (the great majority of them are professionals and the rest are well known and talented artists) and none of them follow her or talk about her at all.
No. 2516050
>>2515909Tbh with the title are visuals I figured there'd be some sort of supernatural thing going on, in the same vein as cartoons like Danny Phantom or Teenage Robot.
Like one of them was a zombie or something.
No. 2516055
File: 1746695262842.jpg (1 MB, 1578x2274, 01282028.jpg)
>>2515983Very deserved, the art she posts currently looks so weird and stiff and to make matters worse her coloring is shit too. And she somehow got worse at drawing the way shirts drape over boobs
No. 2516091
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>>2514820>>2514821Not to dismiss this but it seems she just mass likes any comment, even this chain of comments which I am certain is untrue. Her self-insert character has always been a slightly butch-looking white rabbit. Also, the dakis were made for an exhibition back in the early 2010s IIRC and only a very limited number were actually sold, none of them online. There are no plans to actually produce and sell them as far as I am aware.
No. 2516097
File: 1746701018854.jpg (987.27 KB, 685x1305, bio translated.jpg)
>>2516091For reference, a short bio from her latest book, translated.
No. 2516148
>>2516041I also really like using the people I follow as an indicator. I follow over 800 artists, and when visiting brujo’s page it shows that 9 people I follow are following her. Not the lowest average, but typically when I view a supposedly famous artist, there will be about 20+ followers on their page. Super popular and well known ones at +100.
From those 9 people, only two professionals/industry people are following her from my list, manny_oe and Kat Tsai.
300 following is still a pretty low count for any platform nona so it’s not too surprising that no one you know is following her. But I’m also pretty terminally online and I’ve honestly never heard of brujo or even seen her art anywhere until I started visiting these threads.
Most popular artists with like 30k and above followers will usually have at least one or more people I follow following them, so it does make me puzzled when I see an artist with tens of thousands of followers having zero people I know following them. It reminds me that there are quite a few sides of art twitter that I have no idea about
No. 2517259
>>2516764I do this… I feel like I have to post
something since I'm going through some sort of dry spell. I really envy artists that just post art without saying anything. kek
No. 2517778
>>2517360Eh I don’t know about this…I rarely post art because I’m often busy, so maybe one new post every month or two. And I always notice my follower count goes down when I’m not active. This actually happens to most art accounts out there, they’ll just gradually lose followers the longer they’re inactive. I’m not sure how people know about this, maybe they use some app tracker that tells you which inactive accounts you’re following. Or perhaps some people really do notice when an artist hasn’t posted in a while.
For me, I do slowly realize that I haven’t seen someone in a while
No. 2517879
>>2517869Ayrt this guy is not an autist ay least, he will use it for his business so I get him wanting control and to tweak things but I wish he'd just ask me to do it instead… feels like he doesn't trust me as an artist and that he's not actually happy with my work.
My layers are such a mess too (I used 600 ish layers), I will have to do extensive work to clean them all up and merge them down and pretend like they were neat like that all along.
No. 2517902
>>2517879Kek give him the 600 layers, let him figure it out if he wants to mess around with things so badly.
>>2517870Why do you even follow people like that, they're always just looking for reassurance so they don't completely abandon whatever shit they're working on.
No. 2517926
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Nonas who use art fight and are familiar with bbcode, I need help. I’m trying to change my text to this size, but when I change it to [small] or [size=1] (these are the same size), the text ends up being too small than picrel. If I change it to [size=2], it just shows up as the default font size. Everything above 2 is large text. So how did this person get this font size? [size=1.5] didn’t work. I inspected element on this page and it says the font family is arial so I made sure to use that font family as well, but it’s still not the same size
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No. 2518086
>>2506432Is Kate supposed to be a stereotypical nlog pickme?
>>2509826Seriously she sounds like a parody of a gendie.
>>2510162>>2510157Why are they both mexican-japanese americans? That's so specific. Are they cousins or something?
>>2514230The first two look absolutely ridiculous. What are those proportions? The first one is just a clearly male character with breasts.
>>2515983Her choice to change her style after already having put out animation in the previous style is baffling. Completely shot people's confidence and expectations on what they would get from it.
>>2516192Troons are always gender essentialists. Her oobsession with high school mean girls is so weird to me though. Maybe she was bullied and turned that into the hatred of women we see currently?
Idk why Brujo is so interesting to me. I wish she had her own thread but I guess she's not exactly milky.
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Nonnas, I'm seriously considering getting out of this bubble of mine but I don't look forward to all the trend-hoping just to get money flowing. Is there a method to drawing art that doesn't make me want to kill myself while getting eyes on me or should I just become a wagie?
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>>2517259Idc if its an occasional thing but I meant more like artists who do it literally everyday. Picrel is a good example of a retard who needs to stfu
>>2517902nta but I dont, I follow them and then unfollow when they do that obnoxious shit lol
No. 2518178
>>2517778Yeah, I think that's just bots/suspended accounts like
>>2517883 says, I've personally never heard of anyone unfollowing an artist purely because they started uploading stuff less often. If you're noticing unfollows from real accounts, I feel like it has to be because they just don't like your new art and are just cleaning house.
>>2517870These kind of artists are a big reason why I don't use twitter or bluesky for art. I know everyone's there and the websites I use are ghost towns, but I prefer my notifications to be filled with finished art, not blogposts and micro-updates I don't give a shit about.
No. 2518184
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>makes reddit bisexual OCs blatantly based off a hetbend of your otp
What possesses an artist to do this?
No. 2518199
>>2518184Another boring girlboss/guyfailure OC ship. And the woman is a gendie, how original. Also the floating cigarette doesn't match the rest of the style at all.
>>2518189KEEEEKKKK they do look like them!
No. 2518208
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>>2518184Better than drawing that and pretending it's still the original characters kek. It happens because people just get attached to a character/ship (or the attention they get from drawing them). If there is no more original media to consume they get into fanfiction and then just personal interests. At that point the characters will be almost unrecognizable but they don't let go of them because they fear losing followers or don't have any original ideas to replace them with. That's why brujo took forever to change Kakyoin to Kate and why her story has no actual substance. It's literally the zoomer version of those vapid coffeeshop AUs.
No. 2518227
>>2518214I think most people will just never know or care. I’ve posted a drawing on /ic/ even though im in several groups where i could be canceled for doing so.
I must emphasize that i have never, ever seen a callout of any kind that showed an artist posted to lolcow or 4chan, and im pretty terminally online. The only time ive seen people get “canceled” for posting on lolcow was the whole art fight debacle where some tumblr troon snitched on nonas to the mods because they were scary terfs.
So think of it this way; some might want to cancel you for posting on lolcow if it’s behind the guise of anonymity, like the tumblr snitch. And it was a group thing, not a singular user thing. But afaik no one who got suspended from AF was affected on their main social media accounts, probably because they didn’t post their socials on their profiles though. But even if they did, so what? Someone would have to make a callout post publicly and say “hey guys this person posts on a
terf website” which I’ve never seen happen before. Because it’s kinda hard to get people to care about that kind of stuff. If a lolcow callout post were to actually happen then your account still wouldn’t be affected tbh, because at most only a handful of people would actually care, and they’ll do what, just block you lol?
Honestly even “big” callouts that gain a lot of attention ultimately lead to nothing. Just look at the amount of infamous artists out there who’ve been canceled but are now posting normally with no harassment. People are quick to forget
No. 2518241
>>2518214If you’re going to post it on both sites, don’t be dumb and reveal ANY personal info, better safe than sorry
I am infamous on LC and within certain fandom spaces, so sadly as an artist I can never be a public figure like that because the dots would be connected so easily that it just wouldn’t be worth it in the end. I just stick to myself
No. 2518258
>>2518214>I've been wanting to start drawing again but I posted here a few times Simply don't post whatever you posted here elsewhere or if someone accuses you of using LC, just get away with a "Yeah I did in the past, but I have grow up/realized my mistakes. It was a bad period of my life, I don't want to remember that" or similar.
I'm on a similar case, I used to post my art here a few years back and my style hasn't changed, but I think more people than we realize are ok with an apology if your current user can't be traced to be on "terfy" activities, we all make mistakes.
No. 2518292
>>2518227>I must emphasize that i have never, ever seen a callout of any kind that showed an artist posted to lolcow or 4chan, and im pretty terminally online. How could you forget CreepshowArt??
>>2518262Post something people would search for. If you use tumblr you can just add generic tags and
someone will eventually see it. On twitter it's kind of impossible unless you do fanart or join some trend (assuming you've already left the new account shadowban)
No. 2518323
>>2518214I don't really care of what people say about or to me because I know that they know that we both know that they don't know who I am and that's the most important part. Plus, it isn't like I draw for professional reasons so I have nothing to truly fear or worry about. I come here mostly to post my fanart and get critique. The only thing I've posted here that could be seen as contentious are those vaginal mascots but even then there's nothing offensive about them unless you're supremely retarded. Regarding LC, most of the people who use LC wouldn't care and the people who don't like LC or are extremely sensitive usually aren't going to browse here and find my work. It's a natural cover if that makes sense. Really, I think you shouldn't post art to LC if you're worried about how people will perceive you.
>>2518241>I am infamous on LC and within certain fandom spaces, so sadly as an artist I can never be a public figureYes you can, unless there's a way to find your real identity stop giving a shit over what internet people think of you or will say about you.
No. 2518386
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Everything this artist draws it literal eye strain.Those lines and over use of saturated colors is eye bleedingly bad.i had to step back and rub my eyes cause the colors hurt my eyes way to much.(wrong thread)
No. 2518414
>>2518214I'm going to get in trouble anyways eventually because of what content I'm naturally drawn to and draw and write so I don't really care. None of my personal information is online because even when I was growing up I was excessively neurotic, no real consequences for me to be honest if I ever get "cancelled".
>>2518407Wasn't she shit talking her sister/family too? I don't think she talked about many of her friends besides Ready To Glare, who was presumed to also be posting in Shannon's threads kek.
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>>2518537>furaffinityYeah if you can tolerate furfag and cub shit I seriously wouldn't recommend it at all no matter how good of a reach it gets the cost you pay is too high to justify it
i was into creature design and I thought furaffinity was a good place to post (this is before I knew the full horrors of furfags and troons) was immediately greeted with some furry requesting dog gentilia on my creature No. 2518559
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This is retarded for obvious reasons but the cherry on top for me is the porn artist boob rendering on a t-shirt
No. 2518572
>>2518543If I put my foot down I say I only draw anthros with human genitalia would that get me less clients than someone willing to draw it? I haven't been on that site for years and frankly, I don't want to go back unless they fix their fetish porn seeping through the filters problem. A weight gain pic went through my search results when I specifically said general audiences only but I guess furfags have a different idea of nsfw than the general human population.
>>2518565I feel you nonna. The list of places to post art has been weaning since the porn ban and I wish deviantart wasn't so kill lately.
No. 2518602
>>2518572Never was a deviantart enjoyer. I used to post when I was younger and the credit/lama system always confused me. Instagram was way better for some reason but now I don't even want to touch it.
I don't care about a career in it, it feels more freeing knowing I don't have to make it work. I just want connections with people.
No. 2518646
>>2518633Seconding for weeb shit there's Xfolio and crepu.net
But I'm not sure how far the reach is for those sites, I've seen artists post there alongside the usual big sites
No. 2518657
>>2518572>If I put my foot down I say I only draw anthros with human genitalia would that get me less clients than someone willing to draw it?No. I have no idea why beyond a few tinfoil theories, but I haven't gotten a commissioner in years that wanted animal genitalia (when it used to be the case that I had would-be clients who'd try to
insist on it before being told to fuck off)
>fetish porn seeping through the filters problem.They finally implemented a tag blocking system last year and I couldn't be happier about it. I've trained myself to only look at my notifications when I use the site after all these years so I can't speak on how the browse page looks, but it's nice not to get flashbanged by pure degeneracy the second I'm looking at a profile of someone I don't already follow. It's pretty easy to add to as well, all tags have a "+" by them, so if I encounter something disgusting that isn't already blocked, I just look at the tag list and click the + by whatever tag I think covers most bases regarding the subject matter. Like you said, the basic sfw/nsfw filter was basically useless given all the deviantart-tier fetish art that's "sfw" just because genitals weren't on display kek
>>2518543>creature designI think this is the one thing that the current tag blocking system is bad at, because artists who do creature design on FA tend to tag their art "feral" just because they aren't anthro and there's no distinguishing tag for people who do sexual art of ferals, at least one that's widely used afaik. I've had to settle for blocking the tag and only daring to click art (blocked art still displays, but it's blurred out unless you click on it) from artists I already follow and leave everything else by the wayside so I can enjoy the site. So I wouldn't recommend furaffinity for people who do creature design, unless you're okay with dealing with a non-zero number of zoophiles and your discoverability wrt non degen creature design enjoyers being handicapped by the current tag blocking system.
No. 2518731
>>2518214Not at all. I've been a frequent poster on /ic/ and the only problems I ran into were on-board because of men who were angry that women had a space to post work. As far as I'm concerned, I do not care if some mentally ill man feels a type of way over women having a dedicated art space that doesn't revolve around them, and the whole "but what about the gendies" shit is just a bullshit excuse to further silence women and make sure we can't ever have our own communities, while men get to go wherever they want no matter how destructive they are. I want more women's art spaces and our threads on /ic/ can't exist without men and pedos coming out of the woodworks to try and shit it up time it starts to revive. If I can help cultivate another women's-only art space here then I double don't give a fuck if some permabeg shitheads wanna put me on the naughty list, especially when men on 4chan can openly act like women-hating pedophiles and never have to deal with any backlash for it, big accounts and all. I'd even go as far as to link my socials here if it didn't warrant a ban lol
>>2518235>>2518241It's always good to practice good OPSEC, but honestly just don't be an annoying asshole and nobody would even care to begin with.
No. 2518806
>>2518759unfortunately i cant name that character because he used to be my entire personality in the past and hes relatively niche and will inevitably get me outed as a lolcow user
>>2518778thats part of the reason why i did what i did, i realized that the source material wasnt even good and that i was basically putting more thought and effort into it than the original creator kek. also being a fandom autist is kind of pointless, like whats the point in wasting your time on something that will never truly be yours? its like fucking someone elses wife, thats why people turn their waifus and husbandos into ocs. some of yall suck at psychoanalysis
No. 2518821
>>2518806NTA but I'm doing this right now. There was a story I had been working on for the longest time. The world and setting is complete, with smaller characters but no focus/main ones.
I got into a couple of fandoms and favored a few characters. Over time, I realized their traits would be what I needed for my setting. Originally, I was going to make a fandom AU. But I decided it'd be a waste; I'd rather take the ideas for myself and keep going instead of doing some big AU project that disappears into the void that is fandom.
No. 2519092
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People who post shoddy wips with text like "am I cooking chat" and "feeds y'all" and (doing nails emoji), etc. even if the art is good, which it usually isn't, it's such an insufferably arrogant gesture. It's fine to like how something is coming out but finish the picture and preen later if you must.
No. 2519108
>>2519069NTA, my 10/10s are pieces of media that I will continually revist and dissect and find as much behind the scenes information and background context as possible and look into its major inspirations and I'm always finding new things or new interpretations of things upon each revisit as the years go by. This is all kept private because it's frightfully autistic and I want to gatekeep it all to myself, but I never tire of it.
The thing is that these ratings are entirely personal, you can tell the difference between a good, a great or a bad piece of fiction in an objective sense but whether one enjoys it or finds resonance within it is entirely up to the person. You brought up Breaking Bad which is an objectively good show, can't argue with that. Still hated it personally though.
>>2519092The artists who do this are always procasinating hard. Stop playing on your phone and finish it so you can get your desired dopamine hit and the dozen "eating this" comments that you've been so desperately procuring faster.
No. 2519109
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i was looking at genice’s page again to see how she was doing and looked at the quotes of her response to see what others are saying and saw this, does anyone know about this? it seems like new material
https://pastebin.com/FQm550HK No. 2519110
>>2519092There's this one artist who had a sudden follower grow (we talking from 100s to 10k) and now can't stop doing that, I feel all the "Why do you have no followers, your art is so good" ""When XZY posts" meme" comments back when he was underground feed his ego too much kek.
Now he keeps posting random tweets and WIPs with "I'm cooking again for XZY nation" "The best XZY will be done soon" captions, pretty much all his tweets are like that. He draws very good, posts actual finished pieces relatively fast and he seems like a nice guy overall, but it got kinda annoying.
No. 2519253
>>2519240people always talk about preparing character refs for art fight. a lot of people do it too late and end up rushing it before the event, so be smart and prepare all your reference sheets as early as you can so you don’t have to rush anything. there’s also customizing user profiles and character bios, people can be creative with coding there.
as for reach, i actually noticed an increase in the amount of likes i get during artfight season, i normally get under 100 likes but two of my pieces received +1k likes when i shared them, probably because i was posting more frequently during af season
No. 2519381
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I found this style adorable and had been comissioned by a person who claims to "recreate an idealized childhood" through artwork. At first sight i found it moving and even sad…and then you scroll down and find what is blatant foot fetish art (mind you, all the characters in the account are little siblings) and it felt like being hit by a Freight train.
No. 2519565
>>2518825That's generally the only way it would work. Typically it comes from an AU that's at least a canon divergence. I started mine out as a 'what if my favorite characters were in the setting I've developed' and realized I needed to take it and run.
Sometimes, you can really tell when it's just a search and replace, though.
No. 2519645
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Hate it when artists post their art allong with 100 gorillion deepfried irony memes. You'd think there's more but it's just…I don't even know why tf do they do it?
Worst part is that I always expect there to be more and I always joke myself. I hate this stupid trend, please just post your art, I guarantee the shit you have saved on your phone ain't worth sharing. That plus it degrades your art.
No. 2519688
>>2518575There is a thread for this
>>>/ot/243951 but it's been dead for a while. If you make a new one, I'd definitely frequent it.
No. 2519735
>>2519726>>2519730is it because you’re forced to let the mistakes and errors stay?
it does makes sense, having good skills on traditional means it can easily be transferred on digital, but the reverse isn’t as accurate because digital drawings have a lot of crutches that artists rely on
No. 2519740
>>2519718>>2519735Traditional of course, but here's some reasons why. It teaches you to be intentional about each stroke and get things right the first time. You have to work with your tools in their imperfections rather than tweaking settings trying to find a shortcut (and in general it's not as easy for you to get distracted playing around with the program or switching to other stuff on the computer).
Though you can do traditional studies from a digital reference, life studies also help by training your eye to understand real things instead of copying photographs without no motion or real perspective. Since there isn't an objective digital version of the image, you have to interpret it yourself.
Also, most people's drawing tablets are pretty small, while with traditional work you can use a really big sketchbook or an easel, so it's easier to draw from the shoulder which is a very good habit. On that note, you can't zoom in on traditional work, so you'll always see the whole drawing in context, which helps you to maintain your proportions and to keep the finished piece in mind instead of getting bogged down by details.
No. 2519749
>>2519740Oh and traditional is also better for teaching you stuff like how pressure and pen angle affect your line, since you actually get physical feedback from using different tools and methods, and there's no software jank.
>>2519743Life studies are more effective. If you just use photos, your studies will not be as effective. However, you don't have to always aim for maximum efficiency all the time and trying to will just make you hate art and quit drawing. Keep these things in mind and draw traditionally from life when you can, but if a photo catches your eye and makes you want to draw it then do it and get the benefit of your passion. Sometimes you'll want to study specifically the composition of an image or someone's painterly technique and in that scenario of course you'll draw from the photo, or sometimes you'll want to draw something/someone you just won't ever see in real life and you've got to take what you can get. Also, you can improve the usefulness of digital references by using multiple photos of the same thing, or videos.
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>>2519718I think this post needs to be broken down because there are some implications that smell awfully /ic/ to me that I think we should deflate immediately.
>which drawing style is better This answer can only be given based on your own preferences. Sure, most of us prefer one way or another, but art is purely a subjective field, not objective.
>studies and practicingIn my opinion, studies and practicing are two different things. Studies likely involves analyzing things like environments, still life, anatomy, composition, etc. You are learning a concept. Practicing means you are likely just analyzing the medium that you're working with, and trying to familiarize yourself with techniques.
>digital: can adjust anything, can undo strokes and flip canvas It smells like you're already walking into this with a bias, with a predisposition. Why ask if you already have it in your mind which has more benefits?
>traditional: every stroke is permanent, canvas is fixed The fuck are you smoking? Several mediums have erasable things or ways to correct mistakes. Working in ink? Sure, your strokes are more permanent. Pencil? Erasable ink?
Acrylic paint? Those are things you can correct. You have to be a bit more specific and honest with yourself if you're considering the two. Digital has multiple programs with various tools you can use to help you make pieces, but
traditional art has a nearly unlimited number of combinations and mediums. It's not just all oil paints and ink. Again, fucking pencils erase. If you think every stroke is permanent, you probably should be starting with value sketching to understand that some things may require a lighter touch instead of trying to caveman carve you way through a piece of paper.
>>2519735>is it because you’re forced to let the mistakes and errors stay? I am genuinely surprised nobody else is getting as riled up as I am with these remarks. Use an eraser!! Kneaded erasers, even!!!!
Now that I'm done seething over miner stuff kek, I think both are fine. I do gesture studies digitally when I'm at my computer, but I also carry around a sketchbook and doodle gesture drawings of passerbys. If you have eyes, references are everywhere and shouldn't stop you from ever trying to draw. If you see a rock in front of you, blammo! You have a muse kek
No. 2519903
>>2519878nta but
>In my opinion, studies and practicing are two different things.well yeah isnt that why she named them separately? wdym by that?
No. 2519976
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>>2519936"unhinged". now I feel crazy since I do the exact same thing. I even do this on digital when just sketching. I will see some of my friends draw and obsessively undo every missmark during just the planning or sketch phase and that's what seems unhinged to me. If I'm feeling more decisive i just take my messy sketch layer and lower the opacity and start sketching on a new layer. I only start erasing if there's so many lines even I can't read my own marks anymore.
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>>2519998
ayrt you can relax nona that was just an extreme example(usually when im trying to capture movement and am also feeling indecisive). Don't worry i know when to erase, use undo and how to use minimal lines.
No. 2520345
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To any nonas who are animal artists, do you have people telling you all the time you have to learn to draw humans as well?
I don't know why they even do that when I do art for a hobby on my free time and never plan to try making money or a comunity out of it, but ever since I started drawing as a kid I keep having people (both in real life and online) telling me that and it's getting tiring. It wouldn't be as annoying if they had the same energy towards artists who only draw people, but apparently only knowing how to draw humans is ok but animals are not.
I ignore them because I don't find people as fun to draw (and if I want to make myself some merch of my favorite characters, I can do chibis fine), but I don't understand why they don't accept some artists prefer to draw things like cute cats and random fictional critters. It's not even furry art, I do normal animals…
No. 2520660
>>2520632No, in fact I do the same thing except I abuse it a bit so I can charge more kek
I tend to finish comisions in 5 hours max, but always delived it 1-2 weeks after so they think they're paying me under minimun wage (so it seems cheap to them) when in reality it just took me a few afternoons and they paid me a very premium $/h.
No. 2520711
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>>2520697Gsony24, she deleted all of her accounts but you'll easily find posts exposing her tracing out there. She also scammed some people out of commissions.
No. 2520758
>>2520752>>2520746I suppose the main issue that op didn't mention is that this artist is selling all of her traced pictures entered a heavily traced/edited artwork where portions were photobashed off official art to an international contest and won, faked timelapses to try to prove her own innocence, scammed people out of multiple commissions and merch sells, and more. It's not really a tracing problem anymore kek
She also admitted herself that she traced nearly all of her artworks in one of her tweets, because now that her account is deleted I'm trying to find an archive of it.
No. 2520839
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>>2520822the fugly ass commission in question kek. iirc the person paid 50 dollars for this, it took gsony24 one year to deliver it because she forgot about it, then when the person asked her for a refund she drew this in 20 minutes and thought it would suffice.
No. 2520914
>>2520910Gsony's biggest issue is that she very clearly traces to save time/out of laziness, not because she's trying to learn from other artists that she likes. In some posts calling her out, she quite literally cropped pieces of artwork (if I remember right, Bakugo's hair from an official artwork) and pasted it on her own drawing. She didn't even try to draw over it to cover it up, at most she blurred the edges a bit to hide the JPG-ness. In the end her fundies are actually pretty shit because she doesn't even seem to have a proper grasp on basic things such as lightning or shadows since she has been relying to much on just going with whatever the piece she's tracing has without actually thinking about why it is the way it is.
And then she has the gall to sell those artworks in cons and on her online shop (which she has deleted), and that's where the problem is.
No. 2520971
>>2518493>>2518731These are going on the fridge.
>>2518235I get your paranoia but think of it like this. Are you really worth doxxing? Not everyone online has the skill too do so. Plus, if you are nice and not self absorbed, the chances of people having a need to ruin you is way way lower cause there's no gratification.
Nona, I think as long as you keep your personal and art life separate and are nice to people online, no one will give a shit.
No. 2521002
>>2520997If you're making your own 3D scenes to use for your own art it's not a problem. There's this idea that to be an artist you need to be a master in everything (background, characters, animals, plants, compositions, materials, lightning, furniture, objects etc) without having to rely on models or premade assets, but I find that balls to the wall insanity. If you're able to create your own 3D assets to aid your art process, go for it.
No. 2521052
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>>2521038Typically because they're either following family members, post details of their personal life that is extremely identifiable, say what art school they're going to or post photos around or where they live- often a mix of these. If you want a good example of how easy it can be look at the early Fanny threads. If you want to be safe online just don't post anything that can be identifiable in any way, if you have to sperg about something then try to obscure information and be purposefully misleading. Also Payapl transactions can be used to doxx artists.
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>>2521052I am VERY technologically illiterate nona I was under the impression people just had their accounts hacked/logged in and thus the doxxer somehow found all the private data this way.
Regarding picrel, do artists tend to use 3d models for this kind of detailed objects?
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>>2521056@_Tamomoko! I keep mixing her up with Tarokunnn but it turns out they work together a lot and hang out irl too. Both are women.
No. 2521062
>>2521054>I was under the impression people just had their accounts hacked/logged in and thus the doxxer somehow found all the private data this wayIt does happen but usually it's not really targeted though the potential of that happening is a good reason to have seperate emails and passwords for art and personal accounts.
>>2521060Then stay aware of what you post. And I know it's obvious but don't post pictures of where you live, way too many artists have been doxxed from photos of their doors or the park near their house.
No. 2521120
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I’m not sure if this is the appropriate thread but I can’t think of any others.
So my dad was a starving artist and he abandoned me and the family when I was very young to pursue an art career, he hasn’t made any contact since the day he left so he was a complete non-entity in my life. I recently found his information, including his art studio and gallery.
I don’t want to write him some long sobby letter begging for his attention and lamenting the loss of a life with him I never had. I wouldn’t want to make him feel important enough for that. I want to take his art and redline it, give him scathing critiques, and make him feel like shit. He dumped his family to chase his dream, just to be above-average with middling recognition and an upper middle class life. I want to make him suffer in a way I know will strike him where it actually hurts.
I know he doesn’t care about me more than his vision. I want to destroy it. I want to be the one to do it. I want him to know that I did it. I’m going to surpass him and the only legacy he will have is my passive remarks on how he’s a nobody. I want him to know he’s a washed up old man who already reached his unremarkable peak, and any recognition I get will be mine alone, if anyone asks about him or my upbringing I won’t have any positive thing to say. Not even that I admire his skills. Nothing.
Is this cringe? Should I do it? I know any attention I give him at all is attention he doesn’t deserve, but I still feel enough towards him to make me want to shit on his dream.
No. 2521183
>>2520345>To any nonas who are animal artists, do you have people telling you all the time you have to learn to draw humans as well? Yeah. I caved. It was really before social media and I wanted to be "good" so I wasn't allowed to draw anime or too many animals, so I met them midway and drew furries as a teen. Furries an kemonomimis anyway. Vowed earlier this year to never draw furries too much since I'm a mechfag and would rather have people here to see me spam the wire brush on everything kek
>>2520632>Does that make me bad?Makes you responsible. If you enjoy what you do, your pieces come out better, and you'll probably even get a chance to glance back at it and check for errors. I do the same thing. I even announce to the fuckers that watch their pics get done on stream "gotta let it bake for a few days". They never question it because they don't draw I guess.
>>2520689That's fucking funny. I'm waiting for my furry exfriend to get exposed for playing her gendie audience. It's coming one of these days; she acts an awful lot like Juby.
I just had a foul gooner clock me as one of my old, abandoned identities. Thinking about playing with their mind for a bit because I feel like torturing someone for a few months.
>>2520695nta rip kek Wouldn't be so bad if most of my clients weren't autistic moids that try their damnedest to flirt with me to get a discount. Give what you get I suppose?
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No. 2521260
>>2521191>>2521199i think she's saying she tried to put this projection of who she is on the internet, but separated from the real her so she could profit from it and be honest, REAL and AUTHENTIC and not some character like those other artists
so yeah it doesnt make any sense.
If people loved the personality she put out on the internet, technically, they loved HER, this being the firt mistake and kind of a confusing thing in the comic because, did she do it for attention or for honesty? i think the former.
And since it goes both ways the hate also got to her,she got tired and realized it was retarded way of getting attention.
The comic has massive narcicistic vibes to me because, its either you or it isnt, you're the one drawing and posting, not some like-you entity. It's not like you're making a character loosely based on yourself if its "your way to communicate" thats personal.
Its not possible to have some alter ego/vessel/whatever and also be the same as you, idk why she needed a whole sappy comic to admit she wanted attention really bad
No. 2521333
>>2521260>its either you or it isnt, you're the one drawing and posting, not some like-you entityShe's obviously speaking in metaphor to make an abstract feeling about identity and social performance understood in a more concrete way. Whether she's doing that well is another thing but it's quite obvious she's not talking literally.
Just like when people say stock phrases like "I wasn't myself…" Obviously no matter what you do you are 'yourself' but it this example, it's meant to communicate a gap in how you act vs. how you conceptualize yourself
No. 2521340
>>2521120I assume he's one of those gallery artist, insurefable creatures really. A big portion of them who make it their life goal of "getting big" shmooze and felate their humanity away for exposure. Not to mention that the crowd you need to latch yourself too will turn you pretentios and 3deep5you. I've seen it in professors and students. If your "dad" had the stupidity in him to leave for his art career I doubt he's any different. If he trully loved art, he could've done it while in your life.
If it helps, I have an art firend who has the same story as you more or less. Men have the potential to do soo much good but choose to be the scum of the earth most of the time.
Anyway, my point is. If you pursue art for the sake of revenge you'll end up hating it, and that would be work for nothing. Do it becaue you want to make pretty pictures or pretty pictures with meaning and don't let the hunger for fame/money cloud your vision if you still have the competitive drive to outmatch him. Be wary of snakes.
No. 2521609
>>2518047Nitpicking but I cannot stand the way Shen fucking draws now.
It's sad to say he showed better understand of line work and shape design back when people called him 'bike cuck' than he does now.
No. 2521641
>>2521481>>2520331I'm going to call it now and say she's running a scam. Because who the hell is she? Her only online presence outside of this project is her IG which is just full of selfies and model pics of her trips to other countries, and the youtube channel that only talks about sketchtube.
Her patreon has 2 tiers, one of them is a $3 a month tier where YOU can buy HER a coffee. Who's developing the site? is she just Rich? I'm not joining the server, but I can't see this ending well.
She just shows up and starts asking for money out of nowhere. She doesn't even have a portfolio of work. people will just give their money to anything nowadays sight unseen, huh.
No. 2521705
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She kind of gives me pumpkin gentlemen vibes (the tif narcissism) but with way more skill
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>>2521705Looked up this person and I do see the appeal. It's mostly self portraits but i understand the following compared to pumpkin
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I realized that I don’t draw anymore because the only people who follow me on socials do so because I used to draw porn, and I’m afraid of starting over, especially since the world of social media is so fucking hostile to artists. Please nonnas… tell me I’m not the only artfag who feels this way…
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>>2514672her mental health was already poor beforehand (and catcel just made it worse) but now she'll forever be known for drawing shit like picrel and being a chronic sperg
No. 2521924
>>2521333I think the best approach to this metaphor would be to at least make the projected version of herself look different so that it better illustrates that she was
performing rather than putting her true self out there and saying she is a performance.
>>2521470nta ironically I think deviantArt once again is the safest place to post. Since damn near every website is already feeding our creations into algorithms, might as well use nightshade and call it a day kek. I wish the site looked like it used to though; its Eclipse upgrade scrambled my brain too hard to return. I miss the groups; met some really fabulous people pre-gendie era.
>>2521789I started over again and lost all of my followers doing so. However, being the massive autist I am, I draw the same exact shit (minus porn) and the True and Honest fans found their way back to me. It's a cleansing feeling. Then again, I might've lucked out because of what I draw chases moids away and only attracts fellow idiots who ship garbage like me.
>>2521889Yeah. Instead of saying 'git gud', I like to say "brute force" it. Keep bashing your head on that wall and eventually it'll cave
>>2521896nta thank you nona. Should the redline thread be remade or rolled into that one?
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>>2521923Same, though it's mostly rooted in nostalgia.
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Comicker nonas, whats the average amount of time you take on a panel? I have no idea what I'm doing but I can only do a panel under 10 minutes if I'm doing a shitpost.
No. 2521976
>>2521924Thanks for the suggestion. I guess all kinds of art depend on time investment and just powering through the bad times
>>2521931I don't know. In my mind I can see a dynamic pose, but when it comes to putting each line on the paper they lose the movement and become flat. I feel like I become too invested in that small section and can't maintain focus on the bigger picture.
>>2521956That sounds hard as fuck but also a great exercise. I like the suggestion of acting out the pose and feeling the weight. Thanks
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>>2521990nta another way to do it is to draw a square where the character is standing as if on a carpet. Trace the lines forwards and then you'll maybe met together to find the horizon. A bit scuffed of a method though.
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>>2521976It is quite hard but I promise the workout will be worth the effort. If you're having trouble rotating the shapes or figures, you can try posing a 3D model like the reference, doing the exercise, and then checking your work with the 3D model. (note that depending on the field of view the model may warp slightly differently, so just look for general similarity not absolute perfection). If you do go that route always try and figure it out yourself first! Noticing where you went wrong and noting the corrections is the most effective way to lock in what you've learned.
Another exercise you can try - draw a box to contain your figure, and then split the box into different planes (drawing diagonals through the corners will find the center point). Try and figure out where the planes would intersect on the figure.
>>2521990You 100% need mileage on drawings. A few tips that helped me:
>1 point - the object is facing you and you are looking straight ahead. 2 point - the object has rotated and you are looking straight ahead. 3 point - the object has rotated and you have looked up/down.>If you can see the top of something, it is beneath the horizon line. If you can see the bottom of it, it is above the horizon line.>Unless in a fisheye(heavily distorted/unnatural) lens, you won't see more than 1 vanishing point on the page at a time*. You pretty much always have to roughly guess the general direction of the other two.*for objects facing the same direction - more on this later
>Try drawing rooms that you are actually in. >Try drawing a horizon line and box to contain whatever you're drawing. This alone will be surprisingly helpful in reminding you where your subject sits in 3D space and what parts of it you should/should not be able to see.More advanced stuff: Traditionally when you learn perspective, you draw a bunch of boxes that are all facing the same direction, but in reality, many objects are facing random directions. Each object that is facing a different direction will have its own vanishing points - but they will all share the same horizon line. When an object is perfectly facing you, it is flat. When it rotates to the left or right, the vanishing points also move to the left or right (in the opposite direction). Likewise, when it rotates up or down (not to be confused with moving/sliding up or down!), the vanishing points also move up and down (again, in the opposite direction) - yes, they go off the horizon line! It can be very confusing when you're using a photo to study and don't know this can happen.
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>>2522028ayrt Entire life, too. Like
>>2522036 it wasn't until studies came into play that improvement was noticable. Art college was effectively useless for me, so I don't think school is it either. It just takes the willingness to start studying and a genuine interest to improve. I have a book next to me at all times with human anatomy in it, look up tutorials as a hobby, constantly trying to do things differently to challenge myself instead of hunkering down and drawing any one thing. I'm not that fucking good either, since my idols are leagues ahead of me and sometimes younger.
Other nona took the words out of my mouth (and is more eloquent in describing things too). I wanna help people as well! I've always been told that in teaching, you, too, will learn.
No. 2522088
>>2522077Depends on how unhinged you were. If your followers dogpiled you or if it was recent, you might want to lay low for a bit. The collective conscious is mighty forgetful, believe it or not. No callout post? You're fine. So long as you don't repeat the mistakes, I think you're able to move on.
The best point of reference is Omocat. She was hated by the internet and then made a game with a gendie following. It might seem like it stings a bit at first, but I believe in you nona.
No. 2522099
>>2522088thank you it feels better to talk about this someplace where people "get" the stupid fandom scene
>>2522095it wasn't my followers that were an issue but the people I got into arguments with. The only screen shots I think are of me acting schitzo to someone that was harassing my friend who pulled the minor card and someone who screenshotted innocent hand holding ship art of an """""incest""""" ship. I don't think there's an issue but I could theoretically see some insane person managing to dig these things up.
No. 2522127
>>2522122Ignore her, she's probably just shit stirring. Try to see if said artist has actually drawn any of that content by going through their accounts just in case, but pay no heed to her and if she bugs you about it just do either "ooh sorry I get so many messages" or "ooh I get so anxious when people message me boo hoo" routines.
>>2522101Based nona, wish you luck going forward.
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Is there any actually good alternative to toyhouse for us ocfags? I don't like right-wing politics at all but even I can recognize that something like picrel is retarded. Is there anywhere that doesn't encourage tribe mentality or cancel crusades? I just want to have a neat time in art spaces ffs.
No. 2522328
>>2522310Does it really matter tbh? How do these people find all the right wingers, are they famous or is it mostly just their friends snitching on them? Either way, as long as you don’t talk about politics on your socials and focus on posting oc stuff on toyhouse you should be left alone.
It’s been a while since I used toyhouse so I don’t know if there’s an option to upload characters privately, or make your entire profile private, if there is, i recommend enabling those features so no one can bother you for whatever reason.
When I uploaded some OCs for the first time, I got some notifications from randos. Maybe my OCs showed up in some “newest characters” section and that’s how people found me, since I didn’t really share my user anywhere.
But anyway, if you somehow get added to these type of lists, what are they gonna do? I skimmed some of the thread and they’re just adding people without harassing them, sure it’s catty behavior in how they gossip about users in the thread but that’s the most they’ll do kek, most toyhouse users don’t know about that thread anyway.
Do you care because you want to be an active member in the toyhouse forums nona? If not, I really don’t see a reason to care. Finding art communities online that aren’t super sjw is kind of impossible so you’ll have to stick with anonymous boards like lc and 4chan, or find terfy groups yourself which is uncommon
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>>2522101thank you, that's a very good point, because I've also noticed that the majority of people barely actually give a fuck about le fandom discourse.
maybe just sticking to that idgaf mindset, internally or otherwise, is truly the key to happiness.
No. 2522549
>>2522175I downloaded a lot of artbooks commonly used in artschools and went through them one by one. I would take notes and create cheat sheets to use later. If they didn't have exercises, I would pretend I was a teacher and make up assignments myself. The list in OP is a good one. I would alternate the subject depending on my mood, although I've heard it's more effective to stick with one subject for a longer period of time.
The most valuable exercises for me involve the following steps:
>attempt to do something on my own>study>identify how my study is different/incorrect>try againFor example:
>try to draw a turtle>gather images of turtles and copy them>analyze how my copies are different from the photos and correct them>try to draw a turtleYou can apply this approach to anything.
Exercises I found valuable (I focus on the figure and costume design so please note that this advice is very limited in scope):
>daily timed figure sketches, with time allotment increasing. for example: start with 1-2 mins for 10 figures, then 3-5 min for 5 figures, and finally 10 min for 1 figure>drawing the outside/contour shape only - good skill for quickly checking measurements and defining the space a figure should fit inside>tracing anatomy onto nude photos>breaking figures down into simple geometric shapes and trying to reconstruct them at different angles>posing 3d models like reference photos and drawing them from a variety of angles>drawing + rotating lots of boxes in perspective>photo studies. humans, hands/feet, shoes, clothes, folds, hair, materials, accessories, etc. don't just copy but break the objects down into simple forms. trace the contours and plot the perspective. try and understand what you're drawing.>find an artist you love and try your very best to create a new image perfectly mimicking their style. You will fail, but try your best anyway. Compare your work with theirs and figure out what you're missing (hint: it's usually not coloring technique or magic brushes, but something more basic like form or composition). Study that subject and try again later. (Naoki Saito credit for this technique)Special Mention:
>Scott Robertson's How to Draw bookIt may take several attempts over time for the concepts to click, it's okay to not fully get it at first. Try your best and keep coming back to it. All the technique in the world will not hide bad form, and the ugliest chickenscratchiest lines atop good form will still look 'right'. Check Feng Zhu/FZD school's youtube channel, mfer is the messiest draftsman but you can't deny he's good. He also explains his entire school's curriculum on that channel so you can just do it yourself if you really want to. If Scott is too hard, Artwod's program seems similar in approach, and his format may be easier to understand. Draw a Box as well, but it may exhaust/demotivate you.
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My subconscious misandry is seriously effecting my art. All my mind wants me to draw is women and the poses, designs, and compositions come naturally. But when I sit down and try to draw my husbandos my mind is blank and I start worrying that the end result will be shit.
No. 2522724
>>2522713nta but
>Some people just might not have the resources or live somewhere with good art classes, my case specificallysame i just had to look up art books and online pirated lessons because everything near me is just painting classes for kids or straight up careers on art with barely any job opportunities
No. 2522789
>>2522788holy shit they were actually there nona! thank you so much, this was also the main site i was thinking of since it was posted here before.
it's not up to date as it's missing the latest posts from the past few months, but it's better than nothing for sure. i'm hoping the person or people who updates this artist will post the newer posts eventually, unless they stopped subscribing
No. 2523072
>>2523069Yup I saw her posts about it on social media
>no vod Hmm you’re right..past broadcasts were always posted to her switch after a stream ends, does this mean she actively chose not to archive it? I wonder if it’s because she read genice’s response about how she spergs about her on twitch, so she decided to not archive them anymore. This was her first stream ever since genice responded I think
No. 2523109
>>2523072This is what I was thinking. I remember at least a couple people on her callout post (like
>>>/ot/2499760 ) brought up her multi-month twich spergout so maybe she realized those twitch streams were terrible optics and ruined her whole
victim act so she's trying to save face by making the milk less openly available.
If any nonna saw it please tell us what the stream was like please please please.
No. 2523259
>>2523145If it's a stock image you don't need to credit it anyways, that is the point of them and there's so many of them available without watermarks for free out there. I have no idea why anons keep saying that it's better to use AI images instead of stock images when the things being considered issues are already solved by stock images existing the first place.
>Oh but AI stock images are everywhere so who carestype in thing you're looking for and then before:any year between 2020 and 2009
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normie here, the fuck dose the highlight word mean
No. 2523681
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>>2523565i have never seen a piece of modern media even depict a wendigo correctly. they are not 10 foot tall skinny werewolves with deer skull heads. they aren't whatever the fuck until dawn made. they don't have any animal features at all. i don't know where the deer skull thing came from, probably the same people who made that stupid dog skull SCP.
skinwalks suffer the same treatment, being shown as giant pale things. neither of these pieces of folklore have ANY animal traits in their original descriptions. wendigos look like emaciated human corpses. skinwalkers in their normal forms also look like humans but they wear an skin of an animal, usually a coyote. they are also clad in traditional garments and have been described as dressing like "witch doctors". when the skinwalker transforms it usually takes the form of a dog, coyote or a wolf. some have been seen as humans with dog heads. the overuse and watering down of these things is so boring and borderline offensive.
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oh and since we're on the topic of mythical creatures i'd like to propose possibly my favorite of them all, the pishtaco. they remind me a lot of the wendigo and skinwalker myths, which to me represent cultural fears and warning more than actual living things, and the pishtaco dials that up to a thousand. they come from the andes of south america and are described as white men in black outfits with wings who use electric weapons to paralyze the native people to steal their organs and extract their fat. the pishtaco doesn't attack in the daytime or when lights are around, only in the dark. this to me seems to represent a fear of colonialism and the taking of the literal essence of native cultures by white people. it's a really fascinating myth. you can see children's drawings of them because their parents warn them about it, and it's both sad and really interesting. sorry for offtopic but i love talking about how supernatural things relate to cultural fears. plus they're way scarier to me than a wendigo or skinwalker
No. 2523772
>>2523716I guess no real damage its done if these blatant traced pics are not for a professional portfolio but at least they could explicitly mention the original pictures.
Reminds me of that Game of Thrones artist who recently got called out for tracing almost EVERY pose/picture of her entire gallery.
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>>2523716Oh wow. I feel like this photo composition is unique enough that the reference should have been mentioned. This is basically a study. This is not just a reference.
In case anyone cares, no it does not line up, the artist might have sketched the frame against the original but she seems to have drawn it.
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>>2521705Ohh, okay. I looked at this screenshot but hadn't read the name. So this is Colehairlesscat. So many younger artists on a discord I am sperg about this artist, post up every time she posts and go on about how good she is, how much of her stuff is so interesting but I see she's just another (straight? Idk) stud looking gal pretending to be a man and heavily referencing photos for her unique art. Crazy stuff. I don't have twitter so I can't go look but regardless of how good she is I see a lot of this comes down to cult of personality.
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>>2523759but it would be OOC nona….or would it…
No. 2524151
>>2524131Her in-between style was super cute and interesting, even if it still had doll proportions. If she had made a comic out of that I would’ve read it.
>>2506432 this, even though the anatomy is shitty, is fun to look at and has a lot of movement.
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>>2523888sure, the wendigo and skinwalker lore is mostly just what i described, but there's a lot of fucking bullshit that's been woven into both of those myths by people over the years who don't understand the culture. algonquian native tribes are the ones where the wendigo myth originated from, and i believe it was mostly a warning from mothers to children about running off into the wilderness and playing. if they got lost, they might become a wendigo. it was also assumed that cannibalism = becoming a wendigo so that was a cultural fear meant to encourage people to cooperate and not become greedy. you can see the effects of this myth throughout history. this is just a theory of mine, but when you hear stories about like, the donner party you hear that once the white people were starving and resorting to cannibalism, some miwak guys who were helping them were appalled and refused to do that even though they too were starving. they went off into the wilderness to forage (and were later killed by the donner party members, way to fucking go). the wendigo is not really considered a living threat anymore. talking about them doesn't beckon them to you.
skinwalkers are a navajo myth but have spread around a bit too, and i believe they're a warning against practicing black magic or "evil" spirituality of any kind. skinwalkers are people who devoted themselves to evil, kind of like the christians view satanists and their dark occult powers. unlike wendigos, many native americans do believe that talking about skinwalkers can beckon them to you, as you are talking about evil forces. kind of like some christians think you can open yourself up to possession by thinking too much about demons.
the pishtaco is entirely focused on andean areas, especially peru. i haven't ever seen american media take them on, aside from supernatural which seemed to just depict them in name only because the creatures they made were not at all like the folklore describes. i think the pishtaco can be likened to american "men in black" figures. mysterious, intimdating men who can appear and do terrible things to you. unlike the wendigo and the skinwalker, the people of peru very deeply believe in the pishtaco to the point that raider parties will be sent out periodically to try and find them and kill them. children are warned not to go out at night, and if they have to, to stay in the light. i personally have no doubt that this myth comes from their lands being invaded by white colonists. also, them extracting organs = black market sales, and extracting fat = removing nutrition, which is of course highly important in a society with no access to supermarkets and other outside forces to get easy food.
further reading, a paper made by a woman who was investigating this topic:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349522464_White_men_and_electric_guns_Analysing_the_Amazonian_dystopia_through_Shipibo-Konibo_children's_drawings?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6Il9kaXJlY3QiLCJwYWdlIjoiX2RpcmVjdCJ9fQif you make OCs i would love to see them!
No. 2524197
File: 1747289086281.png (51.63 KB, 748x328, 1GcAZsC.png)
>>2523988Who gives a fuck. Do you think moid coomers care about personality or setting when they draw pin-ups or porn of their favorites kek
No. 2524268
File: 1747298997103.jpg (702.9 KB, 1959x2068, brush.jpg)
Sure it looks good but I don’t get how this brush is blowing even artists’ minds to this extent? At least it’s cheap but it just looks like a soft round brush with lowered opacity. Possibly some texture but the “pencil” effect people are seeing is mainly thanks to the paper texture it’s being drawn over. It makes me wonder if these people have ever seen a pencil drawing.
No. 2524269
File: 1747299154941.jpg (433.37 KB, 1170x1523, brush2.jpg)
>>2524268Samefag, some people bought the brush and it really just looks like something anybody can make on their own in 2 seconds kek
No. 2524273
File: 1747299863319.jpg (999.97 KB, 1170x2096, brush3.jpg)
>>2524269>To those who have been stealing and reselling my brushes: Be aware that my brushes are licensed through Ko-fi, and I have the legal right to take action against anyone who violates this license. I can easily identify who you are and your location through PayPal or any other payment methods used. Tracking you down is simpler than eating a banana. Consider this a serious warning: I will not hesitate to pursue legal action if this behavior continues. Respect my work and the effort I’ve put into creating these brushes.Damn kek, her right though.
No. 2524300
>>2523681>they aren't whatever the fuck until dawn made.As a native I think Until dawn's portrayal is pretty decent. They took some artistic liberties but overall stay close to descriptions of wendigos.
>>2524173>the wendigo is not really considered a living threat anymore. talking about them doesn't beckon them to you.Actually, that depends. Lots of older native people fully believe in stuff like Wendigos and skinwalkers and will not ever speak of it due to fear they will come for them. To most younger native people it's treated lightheartedly.
I actually think non native people get more scared of wendigos and skinwalkers than natives do at this point in time lol.
No. 2524712
>>2524449Unironically start drawing handsome adult men or yaoi to get them to fuck off. You do not want that crowd, believe me. They are the worst, more worse than gendies. I will sometimes shoehorn subtle miss dry/radfem stuff without anyone recognizing to get those kinds of men to fuck off, and it works. I had this one guy who flat out denied rape on Korean women in the war because he disagreed with me thinking amber heard wasn’t
abusive. These men do not care about art, they are coomers who would probably get off at the fact a woman is drawing something and use it to defend themselves.
No. 2524977
>>2524968maybe try taking inspiration from interesting things you see in real life or artists/photoshoots? if you want character design ideas i found this gallery of poses with costumes recently, haven't gone through it yet through (
https://huaban.com/boards/74860524)
No. 2525004
>>2524975Another game that's good for that is Rimworld. It's a colony sim that's a "story generator", I love putting my OCs in it
and watching them starve during a long winter and have mental breaks and commit war crimes to survive… It's great
No. 2525042
>>2524968Look at prompts lists and use random generators.
Try stuff that seems like it's beyond your skill level.
Expose yourself to lots of different media and subjects, especially ones not directly related to what you want to draw and that aren't your usual interests. Figure out how to apply them to what you want to do, or make them appealing to you. Or even without acting on them directly, just marinating in different stuff than usual should help to break you out of a rut.
Steal a really good idea and decide how you would make it even better, or how you would make something totally unrecognizable that still encapsulates what you like about the original.
Challenge yourself with limits and rules, like making a whole group of characters who must be distinct while all wearing red dresses.
Pick two or more objects or concepts that you think don't go together and make it work. Making gijinkas usually counts, since you're combining whatever + human.
Make a mirrored opposite or variation of an object or concept, along whatever imaginary axis you like. Maybe a goldfish could turn into a silver whale or a cash bird.
If something gives you a really obvious and basic idea, discard it and force yourself to come up with a new way to apply it. E.g. instead of seeing a cool hairstyle and drawing a character with that hair, figure out how to draw that hair style as an outfit or character in and of itself.
Write down your ideas in one place, and revisit them later. Maybe you'll think of new angles on them, or seeing them in context together will spark something new.
Remember that even if you "fail" one of these challenges, you're still developing your creativity by trying, so don't be upset.
No. 2525152
>>2524268>>2524269Update, she made a video explaining how to use the brush because a lot of people who bought it couldn’t figure out how to make strokes like hers
No. 2525154
>>2525152>Here comes a little advice for everybody, if you see a brush you really really like, don’t purchase it right awayKEK nothing against this artist, she’s a teen who overhyped a brush she made and she clearly learned from this, so whatever.
I’m just amazed by the stupidity of so many people who paid for a basic brush expecting to create art emulating traditional pencil sketches, when they barely pick up a pencil themselves.
No. 2525194
File: 1747374987428.jpeg (282.68 KB, 613x858, IMG_8955.jpeg)
Will constellor/navimoons ever post her reworked oc of her tif persona publicly kek? This has been on her toyhouse for a while, she probably doesn’t want to cause a potential melty becuase a lot of people really liked it when this oc was a fakeboi
No. 2525207
File: 1747376497975.jpg (1007.53 KB, 2000x2500, orion karo.JPG)
>>2525194Considering the different name, I think she could pass it off as the sister of the tif oc. I can imagine a total melty if she pairs Vela with the tif’s blue haired boyfriend kek
No. 2525416
>>2525325For some, but regrettably I don't think it's that noble for most of these people, because that would require some mastery or at least grasp of the afformentioned medium.
Plenty of artists do what you're suggesting, probably more than those that don't. But I also have heard so much from younger gen artists who don't want to "bother" with paper, pencils are too messy, I don't want to erase, I don't know where to find them (I'm dead as a doornail serious. I was shocked) etc, etc, etc. Anything not to reach for something other than the thing as close as possible and try something new. I've seen people remark that traditional is boring…. I see a lot of people (not that many in the grand scheme of things) reaching for digital more out of convenience. Supplies can be expensive, but they also absolutely do not have to be, so even that imo isn't an excuse. There's nothing wrong with digital, I'm a tradart Nona and am old enough to remember when people on DA would call digital art "not real art". I don't feel that way and do it myself and want to get better. But people definately have a very strange and limited view of just picking up a pencil.
No. 2525464
>>2524813I don't think they're relevant at the moment. The could be, but I believe OP mentioned
>loliconso, in my experience, once I stopped drawing that character, they went away like a bad itch.
>>2525416>But I also have heard so much from younger gen artists who don't want to "bother" with paper, pencils are too messy, I don't want to erase, I don't know where to find them (I'm dead as a doornail serious. I was shocked) nta That is absolutely horrible. I usually mimic the tools I've personally used irl in a more controlled setting (erasing watercolor is a dream…!), but this new generation seems powered purely by instant gratification. I'm wondering now if this all goes deeper than we initially thought, that there is some sort of mass brain rot being affected by digital media being accessible at young ages.
My cousin is around 2 and was given an iPad to do some coloring with his finger. I felt this was so odd, since crayons and coloring books are available and rather cheap. Perhaps these artists are a result of parenting like that.
No. 2525574
>>2524968Other anons have given you better advice and I struggle with it heavily myself so I can't give you much. I really like art with visual storytelling and visual motifs but I can't do it very well most of the time. Even art like this
>>2525207 is impressive to me, which is stupid because in my head this registers to me as an easy and simple cupid image, but I would've likely never thought about it until now. The best thing you and me can do is get some mileage with drawing cool ideas rather than waiting for that really cool amazing idea to magically materialize and blow everything out of the water. Maybe creativity really is a muscle.
No. 2525871
File: 1747424182683.jpg (542.92 KB, 1040x2041, grok.JPG)
Really hate this trend of aifags doing this shit in the comments of people’s artworks
No. 2526108
File: 1747436164282.mp4 (8.23 MB, 752x576, v14044g50000d0i19i7og65td8sras…)
>corny animation about child sexual abuse
>look into profile
>it’s a tif
Every single time. These fujos who are obsessed with boys/men can’t really hide the fact that they probably get off to fantasies of boys getting molested under the guide of muh morals. The amount of times I’ve seen tifs have prettyboi ocs who have a ~tragic~ backstory of them being abused by an older man is crazy kek, it’s so obvious that it’s their fetish
No. 2526113
>>2526108It was seen before but it was OK. It got really, really heavy handed at the end.
I agree that unfortunately this kind of thing is a common trope that's not good to see.
No. 2526141
>>2526137I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the anons that used to talk about waffles and Kasey have moved on tbh, the artist salt thread doesn’t really strike me as one that has the same anons in it years on
I did feel really bad for Waffles when I watched this video of hers though, so many problems that those with chronic illnesses have are made worse by doctors that give them medication with ridiculous side effects
No. 2526179
>>2526169I remember that nun discourse from a while ago where a girl posted a drawing showing that sexualized nuns weren’t okay and a billion corny troons scoffed at it and said it’s always okay to sexualize priests and nuns because it’s ~woke~ and super cool to do. I hate defending Christianity but these subhuman shitheads are so embarrassing and corny, thinking they’re cool shit for drawing ugly prettyboi priests kissing as an attempt to “get back at their oppressors” (yes I literally saw someone list that as their reason) and refuse to see why sexualizing a woman who made it her lifestyle specifically to not get sexualized is wrong. I fucking hate that type of libfem crowd so much.
But of course these ugly trannies wouldn’t dare sexualize hijabis because disrespecting Islam is totally not cool kek. Hypocrisy at its finest
No. 2526185
>>2526181Is it really the ultra woke sjw pronoun artist crowd that have sexualized hijabis before? As in the average twitter artist? When I said ugly trannies I didn’t mean troons specifically, but it does apply to a lot of artists nevertheless
I just personally haven’t seen sexualized hijabi art on the tl, and actually I saw a poor soul trying to make ~inclusive~ art by making a character hijabi but people got mad at her because she drew her wearing a skirt KEK. These lowlifes can’t ever be satisfied. I wonder if those same people also don’t support sexualizing nuns, I sure hope they do..
No. 2526193
>>2526186Yeah it’s not like it’s
problematic, it’s just that the people who do it are ftm troons who are so fucking lame and pathetic thinking they’re hot shit for drawing something forbidden kek. Like no girl, you are not a girlboss for making yaoi just because you hated being raised Christian.
And I have a negative perception of nuns being sexualized because it’s most likely from some anime and japs don’t know anything about Christianity so it’s literally just Halloween costume tier. Maybe if someone actually put a lot of research on the religion and didn’t make costume tier stereotypical outfits, I’d be okay with erotic content regarding priests and nuns. It just has to be tasteful in a way, but unfortunately tasteful erotica is a rarity. I also really didn’t like how these retarded libfems dismissed the “nuns dress conservatively and dedicate their lives to not being sexual” argument and supported the sexualization of them anyway, that’s pretty much rape culture in a way, sexualizing the women who don’t want to be sexualized instead of literally any other group
No. 2526231
File: 1747447559694.jpeg (782.78 KB, 1179x1412, IMG_7783.jpeg)
>>2514672for the “business”? who does she think she is? was the years upon years of edrama and grooming worth it for 300$ dollars? its gets sadder when you realize shes 18 and still doing the things she was doing since 13. safe to say she will be in this cycle forever with no job and people still glorify it in the comments to this day
No. 2526277
File: 1747451728649.jpeg (230.16 KB, 1170x1992, IMG_8969.jpeg)
This alphons guy has been getting cooked for “wrongfully” accusing this artist of using ai, but idk nonas that wip is super unnatural to me. Who the fuck renders like that? Pixel art is rendered similarly to normal art and those incoherent stages of rendering in that pic doesn’t add up
No. 2526282
>>2526281My bad, it’s not my pic.
https://x.com/brothersmiler/status/1923385254124851367 I don’t know why people are so defensive of that artist when I’m pretty sure he hasn’t posted a speedpaint that would absolve him of all ai accusations. At least some people are agreeing with alphons in how that artist either has the strangest method of coloring or they’re using ai
No. 2526296
File: 1747453773439.png (1.6 MB, 1500x1403, omocat.png)
>>2526290Omocat is the most based female artist in the current era. She doesnt give a shit about the opinions of trannies and moralfags, proudly likes '
problematic' shit, made a successful shota game that got a manga adaptation and official nendoroids, has never apologized for anything and constantly collabs with big vtubers. They have tried to cancel her numerous times and failed because shes too much of a stacy to give a shit about what losers on the internet think. Mad respect.
No. 2526313
File: 1747454725475.jpg (177.17 KB, 1012x668, Screenshot 2025-05-17 115603.j…)
In a topic somewhat related to religion, I really think it's dumb as hell for gendie/woke artists to try and make hijabi characters that mesh with their own tastes and beliefs. Picrel as example I found. The thought of this artist designing a woke hijabi OC and then finding out her design is getting bashed by actual Muslims sounds hilarious to witness tbh, I would love to see the artist's reaction for a similar scenario out of curiosity. Do they start kowtowing or fighting for their queer Muslim peers?
Honestly woke artists should all just give up on that aspect of inclusivity, there's just so many ways to draw their hijabi characters wrong that will piss off rando pure-as-snow Muslims that they should just give up entirely imo. Technically they could make a halal hijabi character if they did the research, but honestly a gendie making an OC that cannot be part of the 'queer' community in any way, dresses appropriately according to Muslim standards and doesn't show her neck or ears, doesn't listen to music (yes some Muslims believe this) and doesn't even wear nail polish sounds laughable to me for some reason. Having a character like that in a typical 'diverse character' cast sounds like a pain to write too.
No. 2526426
>>2526277Oil painters frequently paint like this due to mixing colours (you don't want to keep mixing the same colour again and again over days especially if you can't make the same colour so you use the colour around the canvas when you've made it). You then paint with the mixed colours you have made to fill in the various parts a bit like paint by numbers then blending to make it more cohesive at the end.
Digital art doesn't require that method because you're not making mixing expensive paint that will dry out or anything. Its uneconomical to paint bit by bit and render in small sections. You work big to small. Big sections then pull in to the details at the end. Details at the start then big sections is more time consuming and as a pro who has to work to deadlines, its just kind of…not smart. It looks fine but it probably isn't the most economical flows or uses of their time. I'm going to imagine this painting took them double the time it should rendering like this.
As to rendering over loose sketches? Absolutely. I don't do fine detail line work when I paint mostly. Why would I? It's getting covered up with colour or BW painting anyway. The only time I stop to do refined line art is when I intend to do a line drawing specifically like a BW line drawing with zero colour. Otherwise, I'll line over the rendering if I want emphasis. But in rendering digital paintings, the sketch is a guide. The intention is already in the head and usually formed and we know what we want.
I don't think it's AI. Just badly optimised flow and bad understanding from this artist. That's all.
No. 2526443
>>2526313What I hate about woke artists is their double standard when it comes to art, their pandering ocs can be as inaccurate as possible since they are queer whereby they would nickpick any minor inaccuracy in other ocs and cancel them if said oc looks "cis" or "straight"
minor blogpost
I straight up seen a person depict a character from my culture with the clothing from the neighboring country and when I pointed it out she said "Womp Womp, it was the first picture on Google", like nobody asked you to draw this character in traditional clothing but you did it anyways and got 2k likes on it despite depicting the wrong clothing No. 2526503
>>2526438There's
https://tegaki.pipa.jp/ but 90% of users are japanese (as it's a japanese site) and there might be questionable things here and there, but overall I like visiting it, there are fandom groups and such to categorize people's drawings.
No. 2526555
File: 1747482530847.png (342.03 KB, 480x640, 1746439479516_82381.png)
>>2526503seeing this artstyle in 2025 blasted me all the way back to 2015..good days..
No. 2526651
File: 1747490863986.jpg (1.08 MB, 1200x1697, FUABDsSaQAAZMKj.jpg)
Hello nonnas, I really like @AngryNum's artworks and I wonder if you guys could tell me how I can achieve the same look in my artworks. I see that they are confident in their lineart, but what else could help me learn their artstyle? I am really good at anatomy and dynamic-studies, but I want to learn to draw artworks that don't have to depend on flashy colors, either black/white or flat-colored artworks with pressured lines.
No. 2526704
>>2526137I wish she’d done some real therapy and self-reflection instead of just turning back to religion. But mormons hate critical thinking. She’s never struck me as someone particularly worldly or intelligent though.
Glad she’s back to art and doing better though. Maybe she’ll let herself branch out and try new art styles/mediums/challenges/etc. she’s always tried boxing herself in too much.
No. 2526721
File: 1747495739649.webp (55 KB, 570x428, IMG_5751.webp)
>>2522806Right pic is clearly a dead shrimp why do people never draw shrimp alive reeeeee
No. 2527108
File: 1747515095096.jpg (48.57 KB, 680x680, e6320ae01935cd3e6d6e5c4066c74c…)
>>2526277There's no one specific way to make pixel art much like there's not just one way to make any other art. Some artists start with a block of color and refine the shape with lighting and shading, some start with a sketch and refine it into lineart.
https://www.derekyu.com/makegames/pixelart.htmlPersonally I don't see anything wrong with this artist's process that really screams AI
No. 2527159
File: 1747517311285.png (11.41 KB, 1000x1000, GluuvLjWoAAEYoM.png)
>>2526277What happened to him between March and May, what the fuck
No. 2527196
File: 1747519342073.jpg (457.44 KB, 1080x2400, 1000009451.jpg)
>>2527121You can make gradients in mspaint very easily
No. 2527378
I don't want to defend this because it's ugly as sin coomslop made by a tranny faggot but, this
>>2526277 looks like it was made in MS Paint and this
>>2527159 was made in a actual pixel art program (Asesprite, GraphicGale etc.).
I'm pretty confident in my assumption for retarded autistic reasons no one wants to read Though the possiblity that he is referencing AI is still pretty high, rendering in this really fucked way does make sense if he is using Paint. From my experince doing the exact same thing, it is just easier to do it like this so you're not losing the sketch. He's still a fat retard with ugly art.
No. 2527415
File: 1747532116218.jpg (396.04 KB, 1638x2048, 1614272870296.jpg)
If I do artfight this year, I'm going to make a character wearing plaid, in honor of the Scottish Supreme Court's ruling.
No. 2527421
File: 1747532392194.gif (1.3 MB, 230x498, 1647969855489.gif)
>>2526277Nobody does shit like this unless they're using an Oekaki, MAYBE. Max 1-2 layers. Otherwise, this is just a retarded way to work on something. You normally do it like:
> sketch> solid color layer BELOW the sketch layer> lower sketch layer's opacity> new layer on top of colors, clipping mask it, start adding shades/lighting> render the whole thing at an equal rateNobody fucking renders something fully one part at a time; it ends up making the whole thing look disjointed and at varying levels of detail.
No. 2527456
>>2527439I remember learning about this in my art history classes in college. Muslim artists (even during the Golden Age) could circumvent the rules by doing calligraphy that
just so happened to be in the shape of something, like a lion. Or they'd just take up tilework and make intricate mosaics and arabesques. I've seen a ton of illuminated manuscripts depicting Mohammed with a veil, too (although some of them looked painted on after the fact).
No. 2527528
File: 1747540136972.png (50.8 KB, 707x535, monochrome layer property on a…)
>>2526663nta A thin brush, likely a screen tablet judging from the hatching. Very simplistic. Could even be a default brush in CSP. I want to say that this art style from this image specifically is a dime a dozen, very often seen. The scales are most likely a brush as well. Alternatively they drew with one brush and then altered it into a monocrhome image, adjusting some of the values to shortcut into that effect like picrel
No. 2527533
File: 1747540674422.png (276.15 KB, 1920x948, wehu2f.png)
>>2527386Alright, I made a diagram so it'd be easier to understand where I got that from.
No. 2527544
>>2527533Based nona, I wish you could post this on Twitter to add to the discussion
>>2527541I know so many “Muslims” in your average woke spaces who consider themselves lgbt allies or are gay/trans themselves including artists (where art is forbidden), and still claim to be a proud Muslim and think Islamophobia is bad. What exactly is their story, do they get to pick and choose which parts of their religion they want to follow? Do they pray and ask for forgiveness or something? Are they just a casual follower? It’s just so many conflicting beliefs in one person so it’s not adding up.
I remember this one fan page for a kpop idol or group who closed down because the group did something cancelable and in their post they mentioned that they planned on no longer listening to music because it was against her religion, so props to her for actually following it I guess. The rest of these Muslims probably break that rule
No. 2527592
>>2527549Not mine, the space looked empty so I used the first LC related thing I had on hand which happened to be a very old drawboard drawing
I hope the nona who drew it is still around>>2527539More acculmative than extensive, if you mess around in different programs often you will eventually be able to clock what other people use.
>>2527544Maybe some twitfag might steal it kek.
For your questions about Muslims, I think it might be how they grew up. Some families, in particular Western 3rd or 4th generation migrant ones where they tried to assimulate, are more lax than others about it and sometimes to the point were they could be considered nonpractising in everything but name. And also fakers online muddying the water, Muslim is the new Tumblrite "Jew".
No. 2527614
File: 1747548112428.jpg (1.14 MB, 850x1063, sample_6346e43bb7ec4beeaef777d…)
>>2526472>>2526810kek literally proving my point.
No. 2527658
File: 1747554936616.png (305.51 KB, 367x337, 1644566955196.png)
>>2527654>comparing a ryona porn game to a sfw rpgmaker game just because its made by a woman you dislikewtf why are women always held to these insane standards that men are not.
No. 2527701
>>2527690That makes sense. I guess I’m too used to the art history side of it. Most artists painted those things because they had to, not because they wanted to. The art industry was pretty controlled so to be able being able to make a living off of it the subject matter of the painting had to be approved by many parties during the times. Church, commissioner, galleries, art societies. Depending on era and the painting of course. I forgot that people will look at it and only think of their own religious context and not the context it was made under.
I’m still confused on why they attribute every thought or spark of creativity with god though.
No. 2527775
File: 1747571430830.jpg (15.04 KB, 502x538, line-drawn-reaction-images-v0-…)
>want to draw my dream project
>Art skills are decent but not quite there
>Start having episode over being cancelled for shitty art
>Realize you have to spend 10 years getting good at fundies to avoid that fate
>Decide to cancel it for my sake
I wish I had the balls to draw my shit apologetically but I guess I'm not a sperg lol.
No. 2527793
>>2527746I haven't posted anything to social media yet but I know that as soon as someone accuses me of Ai I'll throw them a
>fuck youand never post the wip. The burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused, they can go fuck themselves for getting their panties twisted that an artist is making art and not paying them for it.
No. 2527836
>>2527654Completely unreasonable comparison but please continue..
Can't she just be shitty? Men are always worse. She isn't good, no, but putting her with something like this just looks insane and makes no sense.
No. 2527971
File: 1747587941053.mp4 (271.8 KB, 320x270, 0LXgYV07WS6bQaPy.mp4)
How does one post videos with music on Twitter without worrying about dmca and copyright issues? I’ve always heard horror stories of accounts getting suspended because they used a song in an edit or something. And I know people can be deranged so they purposely report someone’s content to get them suspended but I’m not sure how they do this, when I click on report, there’s no category for copyright stuff. So maybe they submit a claim to another website instead?
I’ve seen some artists post vids with music like picrel and they’re fine though, so I’m wondering if I’m overreacting. But you never know, it could still hit you and you’d lose your account forever and twitters current support contact is shit.
These are some ideas and workarounds I’ve thought about
>post the videos on another account and just embed those videos to your main, so if the videos get taken down for copyright, only the side account gets affected (probably)
>use instrumental versions instead, but unsure if this would make you copyright strike safe since they could still get you
>use sped up or slowed down versions of songs (I think this would work because I’ve seen original songs get taken down on YouTube, SoundCloud etc but sped up and slowed down versions always stayed)
>similar to the last idea, use different covers of a song, such as a piano ver or music box ver
I just really want to know how copyright/dmca strikes work on Twitter. I wish I could talk to the edit side of Twitter cuz they constantly post edits with songs on them, I wonder what their experiences are
No. 2527992
File: 1747589113034.jpg (174.89 KB, 800x459, shotastacies.jpg)
>>2527675>>2527661>>2527658>>2527654>but putting her with something like this just looks insane and makes no sense.wholeheartedly agree, what is with female shotafags provoking such unhinged comparisons from other women?
I am not a fan of their subject but the fact they can make bank while making art that doesnt appeal to moids makes them based
No. 2528053
>>2527992Its funny because despite being a shotafag omocat treats her male and female characters in omori with more respect than lolifags do. Compare how her characters look to stuff mean for kids like pokemon where the female protagonist is always more sexualized than the male counterpart.
>>2528013Men like trapshit or self inserting shota, not unsexualized shotas like omori.
No. 2528268
>>2528241Female and male degeneracy are two different things.
I don't care about what women draw, because women aren't men.
Men aren't even capable of not being influenced by a morally gray character.
No. 2528277
File: 1747607100777.jpg (209.93 KB, 828x1200, 1000081865.jpg)
>>2528268Every female weeaboo over the age of 25 watched kuroshitsuji, loveless, or ouran and turned out fine.
No. 2528303
>>2528268Men commit mass shootings because of my little pony and danny phantom. They are so easily influenciable and schizo i have no idea how they are allowed to watch anything with more violence that bluey. Actually it wouldnt surprise me if we have a moid blueyfag shooter in the future.
>>2528241The problem is that moids never get this level of scrutiny. If you are so against degeneracy why do you even watch anime in the first place? its funny because all of these women who want to stone omocat are okay with the degeneracy of anime, they just draw the line at a sfw game made by a western woman.
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>>2528302
>so what if they draw little kids being raped and gored to death?
Can you post proof omocat drew little kids being raped and gored or is a mother clone now on the same level as euphoria because you say so. This is what gets women put on the same level as moids who make games where you are supposed to rape and murder women btw. A tshirt with a face that says shota. This equals rape snuff porn.
No. 2528309
>>2528295I literally only didn't watch it during the heyday because I don't like cats kek
>>2528303Wasn't there a shooter that looked at porn of that one alphabet dog? It was a targeted shooting and the creator of the very stuff the shooter ingested was part of the demographic he tried to take out. Moids are very fucking retarded.
I genuinely think that female shotacons aren't nearly as bad as moids. I couldn't actively say how many shotacon women end up grooming little boys, but the one friend I had that I learned
was grooming a little girl and wasn't a moid did not like lolicon or shotacon. She was more into Steven Universe artwork. Hate what you want, it's definitely poorly decided to say they're equally the same.
No. 2528329
>>2528324Its about omocat making this tshirt
>>2528308 that alone makes omori on the same level as euphoria
No. 2528333
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>>2528307I agree that loli and shota shit are gross. But sorry I just really don’t care about female shotacons as much as moid lolicons. I have a lot of weeb interests such as anime games and figures and let me tell you something, there are countless loli rape games out there such as picrel which is an explicit game of raping a girl and it’s so popular that there are subhumans out there posting YouTube guides and reviews about, and third world teenage moids playing this garbage on their android phone because the apk file is easily distributed. How many shota games are out there that are dedicated to raping little boys? As far as I know, there are none.
And what about loli anime figures? There are countless figures of completely naked little girl characters with sculpted nipples and vagina, I’ve seen the buyfag thread on /a/ talk about ways to hide their package in case they get “busted by customs”. Now how many shota figures are out there that are completely naked? Literally none.
And mind you in japan there is an entire magazine (used to be monthly but is now bimonthly) called COMIC LO which is solely dedicated to artists drawing loli rape hentai. AND it’s often available in convenience stores and most bookstore chains. How many shota focused magazines are there? Absolutely none. And this is about real life children next, how japan has an entire culture of sexual gravure dvds of young preteens and children posing in bikinis, in fact just visit this link of a popular store that still operates, meaning people can walk in and purchase these dvds right now, and tell me what you see: [Removed by Farmhand]
This isn’t even the only store that sells these kind of dvds. I learned about the existence of junior idol content from 4chan, and some moid in /a/ was talking about how he saw a dvd that was actual cp in this site, not the “normal” gravure kind, but little girls were clearly naked and spreading their legs but was censored with a sticker or something.
I could go on about this pedo subculture in Japan that very much still exists today with literal child idols having their photos and videos taken by moid creeps but it would be too off topic. But there has never been a subculture of little boys being treated like this in the same scale as little girls.
If you think female pedos are just as bad as male pedos you clearly have no idea of the true horror and normalization that goes on in moid spaces. I am not saying female pedos are doing nothing wrong, they obviously are because no child should ever be sexualized, fake or not. But I just really don’t care about wanting to “reprimand” them anymore when that energy could be going to moids instead. They don’t get enough backlash, not even close. Sexual loli art will get like 100k likes all the time on Twitter while sexualized shota art will never be that popular or normalized. You need to wake up
(don't link that shit here) No. 2528338
>>2528329this can't possibly be the only thing she's done that gets her this criticism, right? it's the head of a boy and it's captioned the japanese word for boy and it's not a sexualized picture at all. like
>>2526296 shows an actual disgusting and obviously sexual picture of a little girl and the artist was obviously lying and justifying this when she said "girls being comfortable in their cute panties is nostalgic to me" and they're comparing that to a badly drawn cartoon boy head?
No. 2528343
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>>2528333Omori is literally a sfw game that has a fucking switch port anyone comparing it to loli porn games, let alone fucking euphoria is fucking insane. The characters in omori arent even sexualized. Disagea is way more popular than omori in jprg circles and i have never seen tarada takehiko being hit with the same level of hostility as omocat. They only hate her for being a female weeb that doesnt hide behind 20 layers of irony and hipocrisy to admit they like anime despite of all the
problematic things about it.
>>2528338>this can't possibly be the only thing she's done that gets her this criticism, right?Yes thats literally it. This is the original callout post.
No. 2528345
>>2528338Watch this video nona, it shows most if not all the tweets that got her “cancelled” every time drama about her comes up. It’s like she gets canceled every other year with newfags learning about her shotacon past. Recently there was drama from a dev who worked on omori that was calling her out for not paying her properly or something, I could look it up if you’re interested, I don’t remember who it was but she was artist. And that drama caused people to have an excuse to shit on omocat more. She has a bad rep with a certain side of Twitter, they spam fake edits of her posting pedo or weird tweets like “I like ships that aren’t incest or underage” and she’s quoting it saying BOOOORING kek, not the mention Epstein edits.
Anyway, she got heat for making the tweets in this vid because in some of them she was talking about real life boys. And apparently she was a teacher when she made these so she was constantly around kids, not too sure about this though it’s been a while so I don’t remember where that source is from
No. 2528349
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>>2528338Nta but while I think Omocat is just doing her own business and it whatever, it is true that it is "shota" ish in the way female shotacons do things, it's never as sexualized as loli but rather a lot of it ie more subtle stuff like idk, having them wear cat ears or wear shorts, an emphasis on angst and ryona, maybe some sexual expressions here and there, or some panels that emphasis their collar bone, armpits, or ribs in just a
slightly sexualized way compsred to male shotacons that go balls to the wall with nudity and hips.
Pic isn't omocat's work, but its from the official manga. It's not sexualized, but I'd consider it shota pandering.
No. 2528352
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This Omocat shota sperging is making me remember that the most pressing issues on tumblr back in 2013-14 weren't edgy shotafags tricking their friends into watching Boku no Pico (considered a type of shock content back then kek), but that porn blogs with urls like "daddysbabyslut", "kingcock", and "epictumblr" weren't reblogging gifs of fat people fucking and were receiving asks like "are u, uhh, kinda fatphobic???? I don't see any fat ppl on ur blog so…"
NGL I've never seen Omocat actually draw sexual images of boys. She had a business image to protect back then and lived at her parents, so if they walked in on her drawing shota they'd have probably disowned her kek.
No. 2528353
>>2528343> i have never seen tarada takehiko being hit with the same level of hostility as omocat.That’s one of my main problems about the whole thing too.
On TikTok, the kids there will be so disgusted at this series called nekopara for whatever reason. It’s popular with the cutecore figure collecting girls and I guess that’s how it got a lot of attention, it’s a porn game with young looking characters so people will freak out if they see someone have merch of this series.
It’s such a fucking random series to be hyper aware about. I’ve never seen it get mentioned on 4chan for one kek. Meanwhile there’s anime like monogatari with the most obvious lolibait but no one ever talks about it, and it’s because the tiktok kids have never heard about the series.
Omori and omocat is very popular on tiktok so of course omocat caught a lot of heat when her canceled era was happening, it makes me shake my head. Sure shitting on omocat and calling her a pedo is fun but it’s just sad these dumb kids don’t truly know what worse stuff is out there. It’s simply a matter of being blissfully unaware.
No. 2528355
>>2528341Also
>some moid in /a/ was talking about how he saw a dvd that was actual cpThat site has multiple dvds like that, idk if you should be linking it
No. 2528357
>>2528345God this moid is insufferable. Also zooms zooms would explode if they ever had to grow up in the 00s internet like omocat did, where everyone was making pedobear memes, showing eachother shock videos and boku no pico and being as edgy as possible, which explains her retarded sense of humor that the zoomies who grew in an hyper sensitive internet wouldnt understand.
>>2528353Reminds me of how addyharajuku has a hateboner for Hetalia for being
problematic but collects figurines from erogers like totona and saya no uta. Moralfag weebs are pathetic
No. 2528361
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>>2528354It’s some game where you try to “bond” with a girl by raping her and perform a series of sexual acts with some meter, like a love/heart scale or something. It’s not really a visual novel, more like a flash game I guess with animations. It’s popular with the hentai games community and moids will make YouTube vids about it like it’s the most normal thing.
That’s why I get disgusted seeing posts about how female gooners are worse or just as bad as male gooners. Sure that tweet that’s like “women are doing the most fucked up shit in video games, they perform eugenics on their animal crossing island if a villager is ugly” is a funny joke and all but lmao these people truly have no idea.
(derailing) No. 2528367
>>2528343>>2528345>>2528349thanks for the context nonas. when one of the tweets in the callout is "I wish I was a drifloon so I could steal children" it's really tempting to call everyone who hates her a moron, but the post about how shotacon dogwhistling works is pretty upsetting.
>>2528357insufferable and a fucking moron
>she said she wasn't a fujoshi but then RELEASED A SHIRT THAT SAYS FUJOSHI ON IT>shows a shirt that says fudanshi>can't comprehend the idea of someone selling a shirt that isn't about their deepest desires No. 2528370
>>2528355I saw it before, it was like the first result when you searched for “junior idol” and can confirm of its existence. I didn’t see it this time though. Maybe it was officially taken down since sold out items will still stay up on the site. Does mandarake really have dvds of actual cp though? I thought owning and distributing cp is illegal in japan now starting from 2018 or 2013
>>2528359True, mandarake being a “normal” shop that anyone can visit is what makes this whole thing even more grim. The sexualization of young girls is so normalized, japan in particular can be so fucked up because of the whole gravure and lolicon culture.
I’ve heard about how there are entire floors and sections of stores that female visitors can’t visit lmao, that’s probably where they keep the most suspect stuff. So funny how moids know that the shit they jack off to so disgusting to women so they have to bar them from entering their safe spaces
No. 2528372
>>2528369That’s basically the whole loli hentai genre of games tbh, if no one is passing laws that forbid childlike characters from being featured in 18+ media then nothing is really going to happen.
Lost Life in particular is worse because of its more realistic art style though
No. 2528470
>>2528333>>2528361reminds me of one artist that people thought was posting real cp/gore because he did like hyper realistic
i might be remembering wrong rendering of cadavers with maggots and shit, i remember some youtuber did a video explaining the "pictures" weren't real but wouldnt show the drawings either
dont remember the name idk if any
nonnie knows what im talking about, his drawings always had some creepypasta with it and he excused his art with saying it was trying to tell some horror/crime story with notes from the killers pov
>>2528433same
No. 2528485
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>>2528470>his drawings always had some creepypasta with it and he excused his art with saying it was trying to tell some horror/crime story with notes from the killers povMight be UrbanSPOOK you're talking about, I've seen most of his paintings and while he might have looked at gore/medical photography for reference for some of them (as in stuff you can find on PubMed super easily) they're really just normal edgelord tier art that you don't really need reference for. He's a gross fuckwit who chimps out if anyone criticises him and I don't really get why people keep saying his art is soooo hyperrealistic and well rendered while so many artists like Suzzan Blac absolutely mog him while not being shitheads like himself.
No. 2528503
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>>2528485sorry
nonnie i completely misremembered those parts, the creepypasta was by someone else using his stuff
and it wasnt drawings it was realistic 3d renders depicting the kidnapping, inbetween, and aftermath of what hapenned to the little girls
>they're really just normal edgelord tier art that you don't really need reference foryeah this was worse but i think it got wiped off the internet thankfully
>Might be UrbanSPOOK heard of him and his drama, shithead seems fitting
No. 2528547
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>>2519381Come to think of it, what
is it about this art style being somehow "clockable" for being loliesque?
Under the surface it
looks innocent… but something about is off and I can't pinpoint where.
I think I lot of us have some sort of six sense when it comes to this, animu-styled art of girls like picrel doesn't really raise any alarm bell, so does Kamome Shirahama's or Posuka Demizu's art of their young female characters. But art of someone like the Dragon Maid and Made in Abyss pedos does.
No. 2528561
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>>2528547I’ve noticed a few things that I think make it obvious. It’s always overly pastel and cutesy (not everything pastel is lolicon, but all lolicon is pastel). The priority is making characters look innocent in place of traits that would show an actual personality. The emphasis is on body parts that are only emphasized in porn, the waist, belly button, armpit, feet and crotch usually. Also the proportions are different, the waists are thinner than on real children and sometimes they have big hips/butts. The outfit will either be a school uniform/swimsuit, or little girls clothes. Different from cutesy manga made for women, which emphasizes what a girl would feel cute in (not what a man would want to see her in). I think part of it is the artists they’re referencing too. A lot of shoujo artists were inspired by other shoujo artists, so their art looks similar to something like sugar rune or fruits basket. But lolicons were inspired by other lolicons, so their art looks more like popotan or moetan. Picrel is moetan, which has almost everything I mentioned
No. 2528654
>>2528338>it's captioned the japanese word for boyNo opinion on the subject, but just wanted to note that "shota" isn't actually the word for "boy" in Japanese, but a given name.
It became a slang for "young boy" only after a bunch of people got obsessed with a character named "Shotaro". They had a "Shotaro complex" for that one character and the term stuck for any young male character.
So the word is definitely associated with shotacons and is not as neutral as "boy", especially not for non-Japanese people who only know it in that context rather than knowing it as a normal name that was just co-opted to mean something else.
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I thought it would be fun to host an art competition at a regularly occurring event (since my group were already hosting some other things and it was an easy addition), it was a huge success with the event visitors! The problem was my group insisted we're all judges for what was supposed to be my art competition, but fair enough I'm happy they show an interest. But none of them are artists or actually interested in art so they all kept outvoting me so that shitty meme drawings won all the prizes for the lulz. They were similar to picrel, but with even worse art and even less funny texts. And the actually nice art by real artists didn't get anything. It was frankly so embarrassing to have to have my name and face on those shitty drawings being picked while all the good artists had to find out they lost to THAT. I'm gutted that what was supposed to be a fun celebration of art is now just chasing away the real artists who think it's a stupid meme doodle competition and more dude bros are going "my coomer meme drawing can totally win"
No. 2528759
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>>2528561Glad that I'm not the only one who noticed the constant pastel colors in lolishit illustrations
No. 2528803
>>2528735ayrt I thought that too because Shouta is a real name and seems quite obvious but the few places I see talking about its history claim that the name came from the character Shotaro from Tetsujin 28-go specifically.
But I know well known info like this from such a different language and culture, and before the internet can often end up being wrong even if its quoted everywhere, so maybe I'm wrong!
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>>2528735>>2528740just google it omg. it's an abbreviation
No. 2528896
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>>2528333im not going to go out and serach for little kidde porn games to disprove you but half of the shit you said is fucking false
> How many shota focused magazines are there?alot so much theres a whole ass list on them, just go on this thread and look for yourself
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/lolicon-shotacon-defense-force.199230/> But there has never been a subculture of little boys being treated like this in the same scale as little girls.because pedo nips have cared about which gender of pedoshit they goon off too right? dont mind the whole tag of shotashit on pixiv and the stalkers that stalk actors children.
>Sexual loli art will get like 100k likes all the time on Twitter while sexualized shota art will never be that popular or normalizetheres a bl shotashit anime being made in this very year and shotashit porn still gets sold in comiket, you arent fooling noone here. trying to divert attention from pedopickmes who draw kiddie porn by sperging about lolishit doesnt mean they still arent complacent in this pedo trade,you tell others to wake up while youre still living in delusions than living in actual reality. female pedophiles arent welcome and they never will be, theres no such thing as a virtuous pedophile.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 2528933
>>2528896The point is not that it doesn't exist, but that it isn't as normalized. Come back when you can buy porn magazines of little boys at the corner store the same you can do with girls. At least most women are only into drawings, unlike men who go after real kids and even using their loli games as inspiration to comit actual crimes following its story.
>>2528898Female pedophiles definitely exist and do harm (I have had firsthand encounters with them), but yeah it's not nearly as bad/spread as lolicon men.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 2528956
>>2528896nona you need to stop being retarded and obtuse. that’s funny as fuck you had to pull up an ancient vintage magazine of your so-called “shota” magazine, judging by the picture it’s extremely tame and sfw, compared to the infinite amount of pedo magazines and dvds that straight up show little girls in bikinis and hentai comics of lolis naked. stop acting like women stalking little boys has ever been a wild spread problem worldwide compared to moids stalking little girls, the junior idol industry is completely upheld by moids photographing elementary school girls and posting their raunchy photos onto twitter like it’s nothing. you will never see this happening with little boy idols.
>female pedophiles arent welcome and they never will be, theres no such thing as a virtuous pedophile.op literally never said that? no shit female pedos aren’t welcome either but it’s funny that you complain about pedopickmes when you’re acting like a huge pickme right now, trying to convince us that female shotacons will ever be as bad as male lolicons/pedos. just like the other nona said, most shotacons never go after real boys while lolicons are often lusting after little girls
No. 2528963
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>>2528352>>2528343>>2527992speaking of closeted shotacons, Devil's candy artist is a unique case. She has drawn popular shotabait characters but , to my knowledge (or she just hides them very well), she has never drawn anything explicit nor suggestive…but some panels certainly display what she gets her rocks off to (she does not does this with female characters for example). The comic has a male writer but both creative parties have never dipped their toes into any genderwoo nonsense EVEN though it has plenty of male and female androgynous characters (more importantly, the male writer sometimes crossdresses BUT also included some jokes about the ridiculousness of demanding randos to respect snowflakes pronouns, etc).
No. 2528967
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>>2528963omg yes i’ve always thought tsulala was an obvious shotacon as well, thanks for bringing her up
i have read the comic books after purchasing them irl, there were these panels of kuzu the main character where his tummy was exposed and being dragged in a weird position and i have another image to post
No. 2528969
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>>2528967this is probably the most damning evidence tsulala is a shotacon, she posted this publicly so did she not find anything wrong with drawing a boy naked like that? when she drew this she was most likely in her 30s. weird bitch
No. 2528973
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>>2528967>>2528963>>2528349what early exposure to kuroshitsuji does to a mf
No. 2528985
>>2521340>>2521356I should have prefaced that it was a coincidence I ended up being an artist myself, or maybe it’s some sort of inherited trait lol.
I didn’t know his story until recently, long after I had already established my own interest and pursuits. I felt something when I looked at his work, and that I surpassed him already by just being myself.
I won’t do anything about it, I guess it just felt nice to feel something at all. I knew so little about him my whole life and this was the first time I could latch onto something and start formulating my own opinions..
Thanks for your advice nonnas.
No. 2528987
>>2528969I will never understand shotacons. Outside of the child stuff, he looks like a pool noodle with a bobble head. How could you be attracted to this?
If you want a submissive innocent retarded anime boyfriend you can just have that in an adult man’s body. At least he’d have some meat on him. How do you even fantasize about fucking shotas when they look like that? I’m sure he’s got a 3 inch erect dick that when flaccid over his balls looks like a wet macaroni on top of a mochi ice cream. Fucking goku baby dick. Makes no damn sense.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 2528996
>>2528987>he looks like a pool noodle with a bobble head. How could you be attracted to this?People will say the same thing to stylized character art in general. It having strong real life correlation makes art, even of adults, less attractive.
Plus, it's fictional. Who is to say the shotas don't have big dicks when they aren't a representation of real life.
No. 2529003
>>2528996We’re all anime poisoned here. I’m not talking about turbo normal people, I’m talking about people in or who are familiar with the online art scene.
If you already draw anime style characters idk why you would be attracted to little noodle boys over perfectly sculpted anime males who are at least grown enough to have some anatomical definition.
No. 2529017
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>>2529003>perfectly sculpted anime males who are at least grown enough to have some anatomical definitionI hate muscles.
No. 2529054
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>>2528987That mental image is oddly specific, anon..
No. 2529066
>>2528352shotashit aside it's insane to remember these disembodied heads doing numbers on 2014 tumblr. at the time it was confusing and depressing not being able to lock on to whatever secret sauce omocat had that her absolute chickenscratch sketches would get thousands of notes
>>2528547disgusting facial proportions
>>2528561disgusting subject matter and disgusting hand
No. 2529084
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>>2528987>How do you even fantasize about fucking shotas when they look like that? I’m sure he’s got a 3 inch erect dick that when flaccid over his balls looks like a wet macaroni on top of a mochi ice cream. Fucking goku baby dick.Anon.
No. 2529085
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>>2529077Wouldn't call the Black Butler shota innocent though, it's more that by the time it's vol. 1 he's already emotionally broken and incredibly cynical in a very "fragile" sort of way.
Same goes for Hanako, who is shown as flirty and rather unnerving but eventually becomes fragile.
Meanwhile the loli posted all have those cutesy pastel colors, are less pale, and are chubby in comparison to the pool noodles.
No. 2529095
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>>2529085i think pedomoid lolishits like to take inspiration from real little girls, like the belly of youth or the innocent chub that comes with all decently fed children, as well as how you said about the cutesy colours sort of emphasising on the uncorrupted little girl. meanwhile shotacons like to paint young boys in a sort of way they wish real males could be; see with how hanako or any other shota has traits of boyish playfulness whilst also having a grasp of the world, whether its a veiled perspective or not; not putting so much empasis on the vunerable and exposed figure of them, though they still are drawn to be physically weak yet valiant.
unlike the males, attracted to the poweless and incapable figure of a small girl. they feed off of this trait, whilst i think women whilst also pedophilic kind of resent the modern rapeape moid and long for the childhood fragile-but-tsundere type of male that is extinct later in life
No. 2529106
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>>2529085even fma had their tuberculosis evil child character thats ackchyually 10000 years old.
Looking back, the scenes with the first anime's Wrath were…weird. Unlike picrel they didnt have the older-than-they-look excuse, they had an actual 11 year old feral boy prancing around in skintight spandex shorts and a fucking croptop
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>>2528987I know what you are
No. 2529114
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>>2529106You can probably count Ed too in the same way, at least for a bit before he grows up and becomes very fit.
No. 2529117
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>>2529085The most popular lolis are actually the opposite of innocent. They're either an emotionless stoic, like Renge from Non Non Biyori or Kanna from Dragon Maid, or they're secretly evil like picrel.
Meanwhile, I think Hanako-kun is innocent. He's mischievous, sure, but he never does anything I would actually call evil. He gets happy about smallest things and smiles and laughs a lot. I don't even think he's fragile.
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>>2529114Holy shit, I forgot Eddy was like 12 when the series began. Little widdle smug baby
No. 2529133
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>>2529130I liked it when he was shorter than Winry.
No. 2529138
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>>2528987at least nona spared us from describing Nemo's
No. 2529146
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>>2529144Devil's Candy webcomic by Tsulala, its also gendie-free!
No. 2529152
>>2529146KEK this is tsulala? This
>>2529138 is such an obvious shotabait drawing I'm surprised she hasn't been cancelled yet. I'll check out her comic it looks cute
No. 2529170
>>2529152Peep the naked kuzu drawing on the bottom right here too
>>2528969Such an obvious shotapedo
No. 2529174
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>>2529133listen I know its ambiguous whether Alphonse is mentally aging or not, but the fact his two love interests in the series and games have been preteen girls always seemed weird. Is this why they made Mei so tall in the epilogue?
No. 2529192
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Japanese shotafags are harmless, its the mf Brazilian shotafags you should be genuinely disgusted with, they grab lights and camera and drop the whole lets have a twenty something play a 12 year old kid
Yes I am talking about that movie Xuxa tried to delete from public knowledge.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 2529211
>>2528987>How could you be attracted to this?they are cute
>If you want a submissive innocent retarded anime boyfriend you can just have that in an adult man’s body.tall, muscular bodies arent cute. I like both shotas and bishies but bishies cant be cute, only sexy. Bishies have vulgar bodies and shotas have elegant pretty bodies. Only the latter can be cute.
>Makes no damn sense.shotas are cute and the size difference is cute. You cant have size difference with bishies, it would look mega retarded which is why kaneoya sachiko draws furfags alongside her bishies instead of normal women. But i am not a furry and i dont want to self insert as a fat wolf furry when shotas exists and the size difference doesnt look weird with normal women. Instead of pestering women who like fictional males you should ask why 3DPD moids like women to be fully shaved and are afraid of muscles.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 2529228
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>>2529216And they look like shotas in anime because the artstyle is so simplistic
>>2529219I forget there are still women who unironically like 3DPD men in this day and age. I will pray for their souls.
No. 2529231
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>>2529211He has a childlike spirt, no muscles, no vulgarity in his body, and small in comparison to an average human woman. He’s also a great artist. You should hop on the sponge train. He has it all.
No. 2529232
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>>2529211You don't think this is cute?
No. 2529235
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what the everloving fuck is going on in the ART thread?!
No. 2529283
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the fucking state of Latino fantasy novels..
No. 2529300
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>>2529085Average female shota artist vs average male lolicon artist
Neither of the swimsuit images are nudity, I blanked them out anyway though because the first one had what
>>2529085 described with realistic stomach fat and ribs poking through.
No. 2529321
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>>2529300Ngl this feels just a bit biased, going into swim suit figures for the loli while having group shots and only the face for shota.
At least pick something like pic related (which I forgot to post the first time, my bad.)
No. 2529331
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>>2529321Here's another one for Hanako that I think demonstrates it better.
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>>2529342>If you are a pedo no one else needs to know!Damn, someone in the farmhand team must have been cursed with boymomhood to be capping for cartoon men this badly. Go watch this and then dare to compare cartoons written by women to 3DPD rapeapes you cape so hard for.
(ban evasion) No. 2529498
>>2529300Note that Omori's shotas are allowed to age and get older. Lolis shall always be made for the pedo-gaze.
Even Hanako had an adult version on himself that was drawn in canon.
(ignoring a farmhand warning) No. 2529600
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I hope whoever makes the new thread adds a rule banning this shit, this infight has been ongoing since 2018 I am so fucking tired of it and it gets more retarded the more time goes along
No. 2529707
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>>2527775I am in the same boat. Honestly just do it. Some of the most popular franchises started looking like utter shit. You wont get anywhere if you dont push your limits and try new things. Good art also wont make you instantly popular. Using Tsulala as an example, her art is amazing, yet Devil's candy is barely popular and is hanging on a thread, probably hasnt been finished/cancelled yet because its the passion project of the author.