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Marilyn Manson #1 : Fuck You Edition:>>951424
Marilyn Manson #2 : Chin of Sin Edition:>>958209
Marilyn Manson #3: In Search of Lost Tooth Edition:>>969968
Marilyn Manson #4: Fake PR Moves Edition:>>982539
Marilyn Manson #5:>>1012472
Old thread bio updated.
By popular request, one unified thread to collect all milk on Marilyn Manson, 51-year-old drug addict, washed-up rocker, serial abuser, and rapist still trying to live vicariously through his glory days of the 90s when he was still young, and the drugs hadn't completely fried his brain.
> Accused by multiple ex-girlfriends including Evan Rachel Wood of rape, physical, sexual/emotional abuse, torture, forced confinement, and forced drug use.> Uses his barely legal fanbase to find young girls to groom, abuse, and take advantage of while dangling the same one liners of helping with their careers, putting them in a music video, or wanting a serious relationship.> Long term on-and-off relationship with Lindsay Usich, 35 year old NEET and Dita skinwalker who met him when she was 25 and has been implicated in verbal abuse and stalking herself, using his phone to send nasty message to other women he is dating or friends with, and being violent to fans.> Publicly talked about wanting to beat Evan Rachel Wood's skull in with a sledgehammer.> May or may not be using multiple sockpuppet emails to harass and stalk girls. Also alleged to have fake Model Mayhem account to find 18 year old girls to groom under the guise of photographing them.> May have had a sexual relationship with Lilith Levisis (also a cow; see thread) when she was underage, and tried to pit her against his other girlfriend at the time, Gabriella (@sourgirrrl).> Has an assistant (sockpuppet?) named Judd who has been implicated in verbal and emotional abuse and stalking towards young girls.> Got liposuction and tried to claim the bruises were from being beat up by Lindsay.> Torpedoed his marriage to Dita Von Teese over 10+ years ago and is still trying to remake every girl he dates into her image.
No significant social media links, except for the official @marilynmanson.
Lindsay Usich's instagram is @lindsayusichofficial, comments disabled.
Discussed in First Thread:> Receipts from multiple accounts discussing accusations of abuse/assault by Evan Rachel Wood, Esme Bianco, Clare Buley, Louise Keay Bell, and Ashley Morgan.> Harassment and death threats from Manson and his orbiters including ex-assistant Judd and anonymous “online troops.”> Horrorshow performances from Lindsay and her mother, Hope Harvey, harassing and talking shit about and to Manson fans.> A discussion about who is the controlling one in Manson and Lindsay's relationship.> @mansonisabusive kindly shared many receipts and info.> Paranoia and suspicion a-go-go about the general circus that surrounds El Chinno Manson and his Hollywood Hareem.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>951424
Discussed in Second Thread:> More receipts, maybe from trolls, maybe from genuine victims of abuse.> Lindsay concentrates all of her efforts into sharing updates from blissful quarantine cohabitation: plants, cats, and the usual boring posts, but most importantly – usually flashing what looks like an engagement ring.> Also shares a post from her cousin, who speaks of an encounter with Manson, when he referred to Lindsay as his “fiancé.”> Farmers work out this anecdote actually reveals that the engagement happened around six years ago.> It's decided that Madelyn is a deluded pick me, although entertaining. Farmers made a half-hearted attempt not to give her any more airtime as she self-posts and encourages orbiters to post.> A slew of other batshit fans come to light.> @mansonisabusive IG account visits and shares very interesting caps. We thank her.> Still waiting for the @666fearless full story.> Die Antwoord/Zheani/Manson connection is mentioned. Zheani has dirt on Manson, but no one knows what.> Discussion of Linday's catfish accounts including Ticklish Witch, Mina Lowry, and multiple others.> Talk of a super-fan turned super-hater, Tiziana Collins, aka Titti, and whether she faked her own death to return as her own mother.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the second thread for:>>958209
Discussed in Third Thread:> Receipts Lindsay fought with ex-side-chick, Viktoria (Twitter: @LaPetitMort_), and made her personal information public via her Twitter.> Receipts from Viktoria's twitter of Manson talking shit about John 5 (with whom he was about to tour).> Extensive evidence of Lindsay's full-of-cheap-bots followership, poor PR, and desperate attempts to build a fake last-minute career for her.> Manson and Lindsay's engagement announcement (with zero media coverage no matter how hard they tried).> Louise Keay Bell, one of the victims, came to the thread to milk her trauma and change the narrative of her experience with Manson when no one had been talking about her.> Receipts Manson sent legal threats to Louise Keay Bell and more of her and Jessicka Adams claiming Lindsay grooms underage girls for Manson.> A social statement of Louise Keay Bell saying Lindsay was part of Manson's sexual assaults.> Even though Louise Keay Bell was very vocal on her recent abuse case when nobody actually asked her, she was not brave enough to address anything from the above.> Proof of staff molesting female fans and abusing their position.> Michelle's (@666fearless) abuse case was fully revealed. Some anons questioned her credibility.> More evidence of his abusive, toxic, racist, misogynistic behavior from various interviews.> Proof that Manson forces his orbiters to sign NDAs.> Poor fake and full of shit PR moves.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>969968
Discussed in Fourth Thread:> A video of Manson admitting to fucking underage girls on stage.> Madelyn was accused by anons of sitting outside of Manson's house in her car on Lindsay's birthday. A photo Madelyn had taken of herself in her car and a few of Hope Harvey's tweets (quoted) from before she went privately were posted as proof.> Questioning why Hope went private in the first place. Deduced that Manson's lawyer probably reached out to her because she was sharing too much personal information.> Talk of an account (@_noname666_) that commented on one of Madelyn's posts, mocking her and her “relationship” with Manson.> Suspicion of whether he and Lindsay are already married or not after he posted a photo on his IG page, wearing what looked like a wedding band with the caption, “The Price of Darkness.”> Receipts of now deleted hate accounts and subscriptions that Louise Keay Bell posted. @666fearless was also being harassed. Both blamed Judd/Manson for it.> Screens from a website claiming Lindsay had a “baby bump.” Debunked as a hoax.> Dawn (@miss_dangerx, @guitargunn, @dawn.slays and possible other accounts) splurging and accusing Manson of being a pedophile. Also claims that he had a fake FB account (Mark Peak II) and harassed her, using her personal phone number. Was passed off as a troll.> @_noname666_ joined the thread for a bit, revealing that Manson's was (allegedly) formally diagnosed with both bipolar and narcissistic disorders. He was prescribed lithium that he sometimes forgets to take, which is supposed to be an excuse for his behavior. They also alluded to Manson being Lindsay's financial supporter and main source of income, even during periods where they weren't living together.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>982539
Discussed in Fifth Thread:> Manson finally released his single, “We Are Chaos.”> Speculations that Manson/Lindsay post in the threads after someone dropped a private picture of Lindsay. Anons couldn't find a source.> Screens from Reddit of people saying that Twiggy/Manson had sex with them while they were underage.> An anonymous ex-side-chick leaked some messages and shared some information on Manson. She claimed Lindsay harassed her during the entire period of their relationship via fake IG accounts. Anons finally got an answer to what “Baby Manson Time” is.> The full album was finally released. Lyrics are derivative of his older works and most of the songs read as digs against his accusers/Lindsay.> @mansonisabusive finally made their account public again.> Lindsay posted in her story that her mother, Hope Harvey, passed away. Cows made sure to milk her death as much as possible.> Their marriage was confirmed in an interview he did with Nicolas Cage.> Manson incriminates himself after hanging up on a journalist and refusing to answer any more questions after being asked about the Evan Rachel Wood situation. Rose McGowan posted screens of a message she sent Manson in her story on IG and tagged Evan, claiming she, “wouldn't be used as a shield,” not long after.> A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1012472
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Thanks for the new thread anon!
Lindsay liked several photos from oatmealosbourne3, the same person who’s attacking and faking DM’s from Mansonisabusive. There’s no way Lindsay’s unaware of what they’re doing.
I think some details were left out. I also think this thread should have been named: Marilyn Manson Part 2 ‘The Prison’ Edition. Lol
I still can’t get over ‘Baby Time Manson’ shit. How pathetic & cringey.
From previous thread: >It's interesting how recently he actually texted her,
It is interesting , isn’t it? But I believe she said it was her that texted him.
I also find it interesting in the last thread about an anon saying something about things are going to blow up in the media about Manson…and then that metal magazine comes out. Is this an insider? I wonder if that’s someone in touch with the media and knows something.
>>1082131>But I believe she said it was her that texted him.
“Do not use the fact that you texted with me recently after many years as a way out.” >>1081852
It’s unclear who texted who first.
Okay I misread that. It seems he’s been texting her
recently, but she sent the text she put in her IG story to him just yesterday.
Yes, it’s definitely weird he contacted her & has been texting with her. Looks as though he is trying to use her as a shield. She’s smart picking up on that. I love that she told him.
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When it looks like the fur is about to fly, what’s the first thing someone with a guilty conscience does? They try to protect themselves. Some people do it by hiding in plain sight, telling half truths and even talking about the subject themselves, as if to say “well I wouldn’t be part of the problem if I’m bringing it up now, would I?”
Cast your mind back to the Channel 4 interview he did at the end of 2017. Now watch it again and pay close attention to the part where he talks about the Me Too movement potentially encouraging people to trash the careers of others who don’t deserve it.
Some people might think he was talking about his special friend, Depp. I think we can safely assume he’s predicting the future, talking about himself, and this is the start of his self-protection campaign.
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Lol just look at the timings.
A cap from the second thread and a quote from https://loudwire.com/marilyn-manson-refuses-comment-evan-rachael-wood/
Manson, are you that dumb? You knew they were after you in April already and you thought it was fine to release the album with incriminating lyrics like in Perfume?
Don't do drugs or say goodbye to your cognitive skills and logic.
I am still struggling with the fact he created the Triptych.
Triptych was also a group effort. For example he took numerology/tarot from Pogo. But I get what you mean, lyrics and themes were so much different. Now he just repeats one line three times and calls it a verse. Also the way he used to talk.
Remember when he was all about Nietzsche and "I am my own god" thing… this seemed so cool at the time, it even helped some people. But maybe that actually made him even worse. Be your own god, sure, but Manson actually tried to be someone else's "cruel god" multiple times.
You know it's kind of sick he could actually get out of this if accusations didn't include rape. If it was only psychological bothering, hitting, threatening with a knife/his own suicide he could potentially by forgiven by a lot of people, especially if he apologized Evan & others, sincerely or not so. But raping/sexually using a sleeping girl, which basically equals unconscious girl… Idk what his old "fuck it past is past now is now" kind of tweet refers to but it's hard not to treat this as a reaction to Evan, or at least MeToo.
Is that the extent of his texting with Rose? Comment under her post on Insta? April 2020. Wow.
Yup, it’s so transparent why him and Lindsay were all up on Rose’s IG being kiss-ups. Two conniving snakes in the grass. Looks like it backfired and he can’t use
Rose now, and she would be in support of any victims
The media needs to write up a piece on “Baby Manson Time”. That make for a really good headline and article.
>I also think this thread should have been named: Marilyn Manson Part 2 ‘The Prison’ Edition.
Maybe by the time there’s another thread… that’s where he’ll be, and that would be a fitting title.
>>1082189>Triptych was also a group effort.
I don't want to downplay anybody's contribution, I love Pogo's music, I also loved John 5 but none of those who left the band had a successful solo career. I don't want to say they couldn't get employed or anything like that but they could never climb higher. Manson used to have a talent to get the right people do the right job.
I see he's been into bots recently, cheap ones. What do they want to achieve? It's ridiculous and embarrassing. He should have got rid of every single one from his PR and management teams long ago. I am not rooting for him, just don't want to see this poor show.
it is originally from dms from Manson to a girl MIB kindly shared with us.
then his former lover explained what the f that is, see >>1027734>Yeah lol it’s basically code for role playing. He obviously fetishizes younger women. From my experience it means he is daddy and you are his daughter. Just take a minute or however long you need to process that.
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… thanks, I think
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>>1082246>I see he's been into bots recently, cheap ones.
I didn’t even notice until you brought it up, I think you’re right. Low followers, same pictures on their accounts.
Lindsay, shopcete, now Manson.. it’s insulting they think people won’t notice.
personally i think he meant "i will act like a baby and you have to cuddle me and be sweet", not like an actual baby fetish on his part, just the way grown men take advantage of women who adore them. lindsay is probably too over his shit to baby him, lay there and pet his back, stroke his hair, all that shit.
but yes he does fetishize younger women, but this is not what "baby Manson time" meant, even though a former lover explained it as such
I agree with anon, it’s definitely not something sweet. He’s a sick fuck who’s into incest.
I think ‘Baby Manson Time’ is him role playing as an actual baby fetishizing his girlfriend to be his “mother”.
He probably goes around wearing a diaper and bib, going “goo-goo-ga-ga”.
he gets women to that point by lovebombing them. making them bond with him by being "sweet", petting etc is part of the narcissistic m.o. it's not like he asks a girl to come over for movies and then chases her with an axe…he builds up to that.
just speaking from personal experience and putting it out there to anyone experiencing similar abusive
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Nah he doesn't seem to be submissive, he probably is "daddy" and his girls are treated as "baby Manson"… baby daughter Manson (yikes). Ddlg became so normalized that incest stuff is interwined and completely acceptable… Someone introduce him to Yungelita, they're made for each other.>>1082538
They surely know what's going on with him and Metal Hammer.
It seems like there's no hope for Manson fans/ex-fans who wished it wasn't him. If he was innocent ERW would clarify it long ago. She interacted with Esme today, that's quite telling. Unless they interact a lot discussing trauma/are friends on regular basis, but I doubt that.
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Scott Putesky used to talk about the abuses he endured in the band.https://twitter.com/StratOfSphere/status/915289022162984962
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Manson fucked over several ex band members. Scott Putesky, Brad Stewart, and Stephan Bier all sued him for being squeezed out of royalties. https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/worship-satan-but-protect-your-assets-6360575
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Agree about Stephen Bier. It was already discussed a few threads back but Manson sued Bier’s ex girlfriend, Seraphim Ward, for supposedly claiming she was engaged to Manson. She countered that Manson stalked and harassed her for months. https://musicfeeds.com.au/news/seraphim-ward-releases-statement-refuting-marilyn-manson-engagement-claim/
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Idk, Lindsay’s claimed sobriety before. There’s another cap of her denying she’s ever been to rehab that I can’t find atm.
>Legendary frontman Marilyn Manson’s wife
>and talented photographer
She speaks about being sober now as if it is a great achievement for her.
Don’t forget famous movie director
Metalhead Zone has such a boner for Lindsay, it’s ridiculous.
So someone finally called her his wife since he didn't have a time to praise her publicly in these six months of marriage.
LOL, I posted the famous movie director article, glad it's mentioned again.
I’m convinced Lindsay’s a beard.
She returns to social media just months before they get married, buys herself 300k+ bots, drops subtle hints of marriage without an official announcement, supports hate accounts meant to intimidate MIB and his victims
, shows her wedding ring that’s a Dita copycat, all while pushing the ‘good guy/happy couple’ narrative when there’s plenty of evidence Manson treated her like shit. Mentally ill serial abusers don’t suddenly change, his abuse allegations will follow him forever. Lindsay is either very foolish or paid.
I might be in the minority here, but I don’t think Lindsay has any control on Manson or his account. He wants to promote the happily married image to counter the abuse allegations. If his new wife says he’s a good guy he can’t be capable of such atrocities, right? (eye roll) It’s PR.
Lindsay follows and likes @oatmealosbourne, an account that bullies and fakes evidence against victims
I'm sure hes on his insta lots too but there's no way Linds isnt all up in his business running his account too, probs checking all his dm's and posting that cringy stuff on his stories. I think it works against him because who's he trying to fool? He's marilyn fucking manson. Pretending hes all picture perfect now just makes him look worse and even guilty.
Idk about all of yous but I liked the apple interview he did a while back. He did seem more sincere and sober than usual. I'm fine with that but coloring his entire image beige like he is doing with all this sappy shit is such obvious clean up work by his people. Everyone he follows now is all clean industry people now and acting like hes above it all but then like he's sucking up to fan accounts and I cant even tell if their made by him, Linds or legit fan accoutns anymore.
I get what he or his people are trying to do but theyre laying it on a bit thick imho 😂
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Aww Lindsay. So the old slutty fuck has been somewhere the whole night and messaged you early morning? The day was shitty bc you tried to find out where was he and was asking him if he's looking for new troubles?
You got it in one. This is exactly what’s going on and has been since the first (UK) lockdown began. So what was that…April?
It’s a cover up operation.
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From Lindsay’s IG. >>1084658
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With Lindsay though? Same skyline. What’s the point of quarantining together outside their home? Either they both stayed overnight at a hotel (?) in LA or Lindsay’s alone and took the photo herself.
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I think I know that hotel. It’s the London hotel in Hollywood. She said it was the anniversary of her mom dying right? Maybe she just needed to be in a different place than her house, understandable.
>>1084797>She said it was the anniversary of her mom dying right? Maybe she just needed to
I am sorry for this.
I suppose if her house is triggering
. Just seems a bit odd when LA just ordered a stay at home when she appeared to be so careful of social distancing in previous IG stories.
If anon >>1084731
is right then the house in which they are living now is triggering
indeed. He fucked Gabriella, Clare, Lexus and who knows how many more women in this house.
Did her mother live with them? Why is the house triggering
if we think there is a connection to her mother's death?
I don't think it was a hard day for her, I think half of what she says in stories is made up just to portray Manson as supportive and caring partner whom he never was.
he wakes up before the crack of dawn. that anon is right…looks like they’re both just staying at the hotel together, and he woke up before her, and sent that text.
> I don't think it was a hard day for her, I think half of what she says in stories is made up just to portray Manson as supportive and caring partner whom he never was.
This. You hit the nail on the head. She sounds so fucking fake. Their sick relationship is based on anything but “love”.
I suppose but it’s conjecture. I mean, we are to believe they stayed overnight at a hotel nearby defying a stay at home because her mother’s one month death anniversary, who Manson seemed to hate when alive, upset her enough to leave their house. Manson, a self-proclaimed homebody, texted her a sunrise photo in the same room while Lindsay slept away.
I guess anything’s possible, I wasn’t there.
That sounds so fucking ridiculous, though. He isn't that thoughful, no matter how hard she tries to portray him as being that way. She probably took the picture herself, like she's done before. And I doubt her mother's death was that
upsetting, especially to Manson.
Probably when everybody starts touring again, he will too.
We here just hope he is going to get cancelled and will never tour again you see.
Covid was massively profitable for digital entertainment, it's a lot easier to keep everyone home and make them pay to stream their entertainment than it is to put on a live show people only have to pay to get into. I doubt live shows will be a thing again until next spring after all the profitable holidays are over and people want
to pay to go out and play again.
You should write "sage" in the email field every time when you don't post anything important (=milky) on the subject. Please, avoid using emojis. If you follow the rules, you won't get banned next time.
Welcome to the thread regardless.
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Laney Chantal gives her opinion.
I sense a lot of rumbling going on under the surface, because of this interview.
I wonder if Dita will change the side. That would be hilarious.
I am glad Laney finally spoke. But I don't like that she kept giving him new girls when she knew he was abusive
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Laney is being more vocal on her make-up account. She’s posted a series of stories.
Ending with “I stand with my friends”.
Corgan is a POS. It is so silly to make friends with him now.
>I don’t think she was ‘giving’ him new girls tbf.
there was a detailed post by anon explaining why they didn't like Laney in one of the threads, and I agree with them. Ofc she was not literally giving them to him but she was introducing them to him and she knew
how that would end. Again I am just glad she spoke on the matter, but that's it for her from me.
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Cap repost from first thread.>>1085347
Laney introduced Lexus Amanda to Manson, I don’t believe (or we know of) any other women Laney introduced. In her defense she was married to Jeordie at the time and Lexus wanted to meet Manson. Could she have warned her, yes. But I imagine she didn’t want to make waves against her husband’s boss within that fucked up circle.
They paid Metalhead Zone?
>Marilyn Manson’s Wife Pens A Romantic Letter To Show How Grateful She’s To Have Marilyn In Her Lifehttps://metalheadzone.com/marilyn-mansons-wife-pens-a-romantic-letter-to-show-how-grateful-shes-to-have-marilyn-in-her-life/amp/
Manson, dear, it won't help you. It's fake and staged.
Was it established she introduced Gabriella?
Metalhead Zone is a c-level tabloid, they often post Lindsay’s stories.
Gabriella. She had been close friends with Laney long before she met Manson. Laney is the only link between them. Gabriella was never his fan and it is unlikely he found her on Model Mayhem or searching Instagram. >>1085486
>Hindsight is a wonderful thing, anon.
it is a good thing but it doesn't undo actions which were harmful to other people. The same applies to Ashley Walters tbh. They are two women I cannot bring myself to sympathize with.
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I noticed it’s the same journalist who keeps publishing Lindsay’s stories like it’s news. Metalhead Zone doesn’t report on Ashley’s stories who’s also married to a rockstar. My only conclusion is the journalist is a fanboy and sucking up to Manson. >>1086154
His girlfriend was in a major car accident and that’s all he has to say? Not thank goodness she survived but “I don’t like people who kill my cars.” His compassion is overwhelming.
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That’s the same hotel balcony. She’s so upset about her mother that she’s modeling for Maisonatia?
Interviews from 90's and 2000, anon. Especially Hollywood era. Video interview on youtube, articles. 2003 ones were entertaining too in the sense that he talked a lot about 20's and 30's art and cinema. But that's about it. His current interviews sound like an aged white fuckboy and you cannot seek any intelligence in them.
That comment on Esme's car crash is nauseating.
Sage for blogpost but I hate how he portrays himself as bad women's victim
in his songs. No matter what he's the one "hurt by love" and destroyed by woman (Threats of Romance, THEOL album). And now he's poor cause some reckless woman wrecked his toy, even managed to spoil Games of Thrones for him, poor Manson.
Like I said, they are sidling up to Corgan and Chloe, another branch of the happy families wholesome front. She’s supporting Mason Atia, they via Chloe are sharing stories from Cete. It’s an orchestrated puke fest. Seems right now people are gearing up and placing bets on which side to be on.
Tinfoil is that if this ever goes to go, ‘this’ being multiple girls alleging abuse, Manson’s defence will be that it was all consensual and role playing etc. He won’t deny the Esme stuff if it came to the crunch, and, as anon said the ‘flogging’ marks look just like shibari rope ties which countless goth ethots and boring bdsm fashion whores share relentlessly. It’s going to be hard to pin anything on him.
Why do you people keep beating a dead horse? It’s too late for Evan or Esme to take Manson to court. Unless something happens where a bunch of women start coming forward. The only other thing they really can do is out him in the media, or they can be used as witnesses to testify against Manson if something has come up about him.
And the defense regarding the Bdsm will be that maybe these women did consent, but he mis-used “Bdsm” to abuse them.
>>1086644> Unless something happens where a bunch of women start coming forward.
…multiple girls alleging abuse.
> but he mis-used “Bdsm” to abuse them.
… It’s going to be hard to pin anything on him.
So I think we’re at an impasse.
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Because I keep seeing fan accounts claiming Evan supports Amber Heard to discredit her, that’s bullshit. In 2016 Evan defended AH’s bisexuality. That’s the only time Evan ever mentioned Heard. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/evan-rachel-wood-attacks-press-coverage-amber-heard-s-bisexuality-a7055051.html
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Pertaining to bdsm.
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Apparently, he was replaced on The Stand.
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I noticed Madelyn was called out. lol >>1089119
Evan tweeted that around the time she testified for the Phoenix Act. 2018, I believe. >>1089161
He lost a lot
of fans over this, the abuse allegations have become mainstream knowledge.
Hahahahaha. It’s funny these accounts are calling her out - but isn’t the whole “stalker” thing Manson’s spiel he lies about and tells to other girls? This is what he must be feeding
to Lindsay while he talks to this Madelyn behind her back.
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I don't know what's going on but I don't think he was replaced due to the allegations, because he joined another TV series. But why did he release and shortly after removed from the internet the song he had covered for The Stand?
He’s in a show called
“Creep show” Hahahaha. No way. How fitting.
Seems suspicious that they would remove him from The Stand - a very famous movie, and then he deletes the song. Whatever he’s trying to hide by deleting it… it’s out there and people still know he did the song.
I dont really see it as suspicious. That song came out like last year and it had to be pulled I assume because of the Doors copyrights. That's what someone mentioned on reddit anyway. And the Stand is a tv show.
Im kinda mad he's in Creepshow though cause I love the original.
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“you were warned” - MIB should report the threats. >>1089312
I think he has. He’ll always have a diehard core fanbase but I’m seeing more ‘cancel Manson’ posts on social media lately, especially tiktok and reddit.
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What do you mean anon, her new follows look totally legit. Kek
Apparently she doesn’t care how it looks or what people think, it’s all about the number. If she truly had 435k followers her posts would average more then 15k likes.
Manson started with the bots too, idk whose bad idea this was.
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Love it, anon.
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Evan's close friend Illma Gore followed @mansonisabusive.
Now his fanbase can't say they don't know who Evan is talking about or sHe nEVeR SaId iT wAs MaNSoN.
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Illma Gore reposted Evan’s testimony several times on her Twitter and specifically called out Manson.
You’d have to be in denial or an idiot to think Evan and Esme aren’t talking about Manson, the problem lies with fans making excuses for him no matter what.
That could be his fans.>>1095336
This is hilarious. I think he told Lindsay to do so.
4:19 trashes his victims
4:20 complains about Madelyn talking trash to his fans
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I know that many are going to get angry, but, I think we should be more impartial, and not just blame the men always, because the women are not totally saints:
Asia Argento, who began the #MeToo movement, was acussed ironically of sex abuse for a young actor, Jimmy Bennett,
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And Jessika Adamms has questionable behavior too, and a boy commented about some experiences with her:
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Asia Argento didn’t start the #metoo movement? I’ve never even heard of her tbh. Either way, you’re taking a few stories about women potentially being exceptions to the rule, that men comment like 98% of violent sex crimes, and pretending it evens out the scale. Women can be evil, doesn’t mean that men are responsible for way more shit in the world.
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Evan is the same, she wasn`t a saint neither, experiences of some fans:
I think it was toxic
all the way around. No matter how young she was at the time, 18-year-olds know not to fuck married men. It seems like she's embarrassed about what happened between them and now she wants to play victim
. And that's not to down-play whatever happened to her, but she's no better than him if everything that's been written about her is true. The abuse wasn't as one-sided as she tried to make it sound.
Honestly, it doesn't sound like any of the women he's been with weren't shitty to at least some degree. Rose is pretending to be an abuse advocate, Dita's not as classy as she pretends to be (e.g. Amie Nicole Harwick's messages with @mansonisabusive). And what hasn't Lindsay done? It almost makes me feel bad for him, not to white-wash his image. If he would've gone to therapy and lived a normal life, maybe he wouldn't be where he is now.
You're doing a real shit job of trying to discredit victims
by posting strawman arguments. Regardless of if they were toxic
, that in no way justifies the things they've described he's done to them. Fuck off.
Asia Argento is Manson's best friend. If you wanted to defend Manson with that silly post, you failed. >>1097001
We agreed she is a cow and unstable herself. It doesn't cancel everything she said about Manson though, especially given the fact that many of her words proved to be true by other people. >>1097018
He was whoring around and she was not supposed to be jealous? Dan Cleary literally said Manson broke Evan over 1 year. You could guess she could be unstable at some moments given how much pressure he put her under.>>1097088> but she's no better than him if everything that's been written about her is true.
what was written about her? wanna bring some caps? He raped and tortured several women, probably had sex with underage girls, drugged them, abused his fans, and you say she is no better than him? Your post here can't earn you +1 like from Lindsay or Manson, it is anonymous, little wk.>>1097128
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Would be great if you would share the link to that YouTube video.
Also, Jeordie White and Andy Gerold played guitar and bass during that tour. No Tim there.
Manson saying "I didn't even do anything." is the most ridiculous "evidence" I've ever read about. If you really believe that you are fucking dumb.
Evan herself said that because of the abuse she acted out a lot which would make her seem crazy to others.
Of course she's ashamed! That's why it took her years to talk about it.
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I agree people should take responsibility but the problem is Manson never has. He hangs up on reporters asking abuse questions, talks trash about his victims
, continues to abuse people. Asking his victims
to forgive him because he was abused himself would be difficult if he refuses to help himself or change.
And, then, when she going to take responsability for herself and all her acts?, anything is blame of him?,
But if he does some, they say it´s only is blame of his, but if she does some, all is blame of others?
She was age of majority , she was 20 years old when lived with him, an adult, even 18 is age of majority, you already have adult responsibilities. I'm not say that him is a pigeon, but this girls enter in strange games too, many times too. They are age of majority,
When, then, the girls to take responsability of her acts too?
Evan had low self-esteem, before to meet to him, but Manson too, Manson HAS low self-esteem in his serious relationships too, in this case the imbalance is of both, they were both unstable, many people have low self-esteem, and is for this reason that in many occasions, all of us commit foolish acts, and they aren`t exception, these problems often come from childhood. He is insecure too, he seems to have a emotional dependency,
Even that silly threats of death, seems to be desperate attempts not to be abandoned, but not real. If that had been, simply he would have.
On the other hand, she say that the people insulted her, when was with him, and for that she felt bad too, but, how many times he had been insulted for many people?
How many times he had been threatened with death, true threats of death?.
Like all people, I think that they should check themselves internally. This is something difficult because these problems often come from childhood,
But it is possible, this isn´t the product only of a relationship. And for this, precisely one of the first steps is to take more responsibility for themselves.
Many of our decisions are also failures of us, and they are internal failures,
I think that he is afraid of being abandoned, this causes him to do silly things, he should to work his self-esteem too, and not having emotional dependence on anyone, and trusting more in himself in a relationship too,
I'm sorry to say it, but romantic ideas in the Shakespearean style or Bonnie and Clyde are silly, it is pure emotional dependence, and therefore catastrophe for a couple and breaks the stability of someone who precisely does not want to be abandoned. Sometimes we must even learn to be alone too, and not depend on another, love ourselves more to be better with ourselves and maintain better relationships, learn that breaking up with a partner is not a tragedy.
This is their inside job. They should take this as an apprenticeship
We are here to learn.
I'd like both of them to apologize, and try to improve within themselves(newfag)
Please sage your post if you’re not posting a screenshot.
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What about them? What does that have to do with Manson? >>1097852
You’re dismissing or not addressing that Manson has several other victims
. You’re asking us to sympathize with someone who has intentionally hurt many people.
They didn’t agree to be abused, his victims
have said he grooms them first. Being chased with an axe >>1082406
and being emotionally destroyed is not sadomasochism gone wrong. Having spyware unknowingly downloaded on your phone and your life controlled is not “regret.”
Please just face the fact that Manson drugged and severely abused several women mentally and physically and shut up. What these women did while they were suffering doesn't matter.
Let's not forget that he locked them in rooms for hours, controlled their weight, publicly humiliated and cheated on them. Of course he's to blame.
I was probably one of the few ppl that did believe about his fake accounts when it was first brought up a couple of threads ago.
I think the only ones that are saying nasty things to and about victims
, and defending & lying for MM is: 666fearless, Lindsay, & Manson… or any other of his “people”.
@leslee_lane talks so much shit about his victims
on Discord as well. She's completely mental. Claims she had threesomes with Manson and Dita/Evan on Discord. Batshit.https://discord.com/invite/9jnQqFX
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Crazy. Lindsay follows two @leslee_lane accounts, are they friends? They also targeted Madelyn. >>1089260
It’s certainly sketchy. Either Lindsay is behind that account or she’s friends with a mentally ill fan spreading outlandish rumors. Either way it’s clear Lindsay and Manson want to discredit his victims
She has a YouTube? Can you link it pls. >>1098681>But after taking a closer look at her account, I think it's a different person.
You might be right but what makes you think that? Her account seems pretty generic, just pics of Lindsay and Manson with basic hashtags.
Not OP, but her channel isn't hard to find. It's right here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTV-D65qnMc6lsB56BhHVLw
fan account is like that. They all post the same edited pictures of them together with some lovey-dovey quote from one of his songs. Very few fan accounts are actually interesting anymore. They all kiss her ass now.
Why don't you post caps?
It's unsafe for anybody from us to join their discord now when you announced it.
Fucking loads of newfags have found the thread again. Nothing new, only dumb people.
Yep. Bought a ton of albums, merch, went to one of his shows (which was laughably bad btw). I read his autobiography and teenage me was so taken with it. Weirdly enough the way he talks about women and groupies in that book disgusts me today.
He was king of the edgelords. We all grew up, he deteriorated
you literally said the time when you spoke with her and the topic, she'll find who you are if she finds the threads anyways.
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Nevermind. If she found the thread, I'd be doxxed anyway. I unsent my messages and blocked her too a little bit after I realized she'd blocked me.
and I don't think they meant fearless. She didn't delete her account, it is still up. In addition to that, I don't think Lindsay or his fans wanted to remove her account, I am very confident she works for MM.
“He’s all about personal responsibility.” Lmao By hanging up on reporters?
The mental gymnastics used by his fans to defend him would be comical if it wasn’t sad. Suure, the allegations are all Mansonisabusive’s fault.. never mind that she uses public information.
Maybe they mean LKB?? She didn’t delete her account but she went private.
Yes, and now she’s saying Judd “stole” her information from Manson which implies Manson did nothing wrong here. She previously posted a ton of screenshots and accused Manson of being a narcissistic creep. Why is she protecting him now?
Additionally, I used to follow her when she posted the Manson screens. Never talked to her. She removed almost all of her followers and blocked them, me included, when she deleted the screens and went private.
Stole from Manson? Lol
What's about that crazy girl who spammed her email? What was her name? Darcey?
Yeah, Manson did nothing wrong. 100%.
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You’re right, it’s not….
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The cow is seeking help again.
Look who is trying to make it up with John 5.
Rose turned her back on him, I don't think John will do anything better than just a like or a thank you.
Exactly, the Darcy email: >>958672>>958675
In those caps she said Manson passed her email around and let Judd and Lindsay use his phone to harass her. How would she even know Judd stole her info unless Manson or Judd told her that and why would she believe it after everything they put her through. >>1100020
I honestly can’t tell if that’s a compliment or not.
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Do you mean Marcy?
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Yes, it’s Marcy. Sorry.
I’m genuinely sorry fearless is being stalked/harassed but put the blame where it belongs. Judd didn’t have to steal shit.
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Last December they even tried to send Lindsay’s mom to talk to Dawn, but she never accepted the message, and then Hope deleted it.
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Has anyone ever actually gotten a response from Lindsay and kept the messages? Because I'd love to see how often she's active on IG. It's like she has nothing better to do. I wonder how she finds the time to be so well-read, spend with “her man,” and be that vain.>>1100559>>1100553
How is everyone getting so much information about Dawn? I follow her on IG and she hasn't posted anything about Manson in a while. And regardless of Michelle's intentions, the caps she posted were still legit.
She probably has nothing better to do than being on Instagram around the clock. Work doesn't seem to be an issue either.
I don't understand how they always call her a "photographer".
Professional training? Photo jobs? Nothing. Her photos are completely amateurish btw.
I sent her a message about two months ago when I saw she posted a couple of posts in her IG story that were from mansonisabusive & that’s when I got the the information. I’m guessing she probably hasn’t said much about him because she’s just been working on the lawsuit against him & nothing will be out about it until sometime next year.>>1100559
That is sketch as fuck. It sounds to me like fearless is trying to manipulate victims
by trying to act like ‘one of them’ to gain their trust just so she get information out of them. Because that doesn’t add up why she would care what anyone says about Manson when she went around saying awful shit about him. I agree with what another anon said, I think she really works for him.
Who’s this “we”? I’m my own person. I’ve been following her story since last year, & dm’d with her, & I don’t see anything inconsistent about what she says.
She has a lawyer. I’m sure she has a lawyer because she’s ”making things up”.
> I sent her caps from a random account on Twitter and she actually believed that it was Manson.
Post the caps. Not sure why you would do that, but that’s shady, & it’s not far-fetched since he does use fake accounts.
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There's nothing shady about it. I only did it to see if there was any method to her accusations. And there wasn't. She had no reason to believe that they were Manson. They changed their handle to @fleurnymphet and went private after I let them know about Dawn.
She didn’t say anything about believing you. She just asked you questions about how you came about it & that it wouldn’t surprise her.
Why would you even have to let that account know about her? She’s never even spoke about that account. She’s posted about a different porn account.
He acts like some black guy on that account & posts about porn that fetishizes race. That’s racism. And it doesn’t sound too far off that Manson would be behind such a detestable & vile account like that considering the accusations about him being a racist piece of garbage.
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He's definitely trying to suck up to John now that Rose is done supporting him. He doesn't have anyone else to cover his ass, besides maybe Sköld or Johnny Depp, but he hasn't talked to Tim since he left the band in 2008 and Depp isn't a reliable alibi anymore.
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They mean the podcast barely about music.
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It's so ridiculous if it weren't so embarassing how she always puts her simple-minded nonsense underneath exactly after his posting. Can't she say it to his face? No, she has to hang out on Instagram around the clock. Must be a very exciting marriage.
Also interesting how comments are deleted that don't kiss her ass. I wonder who does that irony off
She really likes every single ass-kiss comment. Well, she has the whole day off.
Wanted to post about that too. His post is dedicated to John Lennon, he died on that date. Her emotional intelligence must be below zero.>>1103545
I don't think they are friends anymore. I noticed Manson got rid of the matching tattoo on his wrist.
They are still following each other on IG and Lindsay is following Depp too. I think they are still friends but he just didn't give his friend public support for obvious reasons.
Removed tattoo? Any pictures where we can see that?
It looks covered.
Lindsay posted a lot of photos of cats with his hands, I think I'll look through them to see the tattoo.
His wrist wasn't visible in any of the pictures she saved to her highlights. This picture: >>1103654
was from July. I don't think there are any more recent pictures where his tattoos were showing. Why would he have it removed anyway?
But he never tried to distance himself during divorce proceedings. He even made a statement about it: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/marilyn-manson-johnny-depp-amber-heard-divorce-he-was-completely-crucified-unjustly-a7225936.html
Last time I checked, they still follow each other on IG.>>1104465
Obviously, he never got over Dita in the first place. And he doesn't show up in the likes on most of Lindsay's posts.
Didn’t her mom die? What the fuck is this bitch always on IG posting acting like nothing? And that everything is butterflies and rainbows? The fake ass gold-digging bitch should enjoy it while she can because both of the worlds are going to come to crumble. The worthless slut should just slit her fucking wrists. Fuck both of these wastes of oxygen who do nothing for the world.
> Her emotional intelligence must be below zero.
And Manson has third-grade level intelligence.>>1103445
Like I’m sure John Lennon cares about his pathetic tribute. He’s probably rolling in his grave that some racist sick pedophile is doing a tribute to him.
Yes, the grief must've been immeasurable. But you have to set priorities. Instagram is more important.
Very funny also all these ass kissing accounts like for example "Lindsayusichfanclub". I seriously wonder, are these stupid 12 year old fangirls or is she behind it herself. Without a job she has all day. Oh, sorry, I forgot, she's one of the most talented photographers in the US!
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She used to make hate pages against herself to get attention from Manson, so it's definitely not unlikely for her to run her own fan accounts.
I wouldn't put it past her.
And every time you think the film can't get any worse, you're proven wrong. Just under 500k followers. I estimate 75% bots and the rest are Manson fans. It should probably be made to appear that she has a career. Pathetic.
Of course she's nothing without him. It's just a mystery to me how a person can be so pathetic to live at the expense of her partner. Honestly, I'd be ashamed.
Probably she finds herself "so edgy", while she is obviously completely boring and uninteresting without any personality.
Wtf? This is completely sick.One could scream with laughter what a charade is happening on Instagram.
Walmart-Xena Leslee defends her Joan of Arc with full force. How cute. Not!
I am downright fascinated to watch the stupidity of these mentally deranged broads.
A middle aged woman who enjoys being adored by young fangirls, if you're on that mental level, you've really made it.. congrats!
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Apparently, that wasn't just a troll and they did find the thread. But why did they black out the comment section and the file name for the header image? That makes no sense.
They lived in her house.>>1105309
It doesn't matter for me. It could be just one episode when she managed to stand up for herself. I am sure their relationship was a lot like a rollercoaster but seeing photos of her scars and reading his interviews is enough for me.
I mean even if you are willing to ignore Evan, Esmé and other victims
, how do you cope with what he says in interviews?
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>>1105394>They lived in her house.
This is the only article I can find about her brother being kicked out. Evan defends Manson because I assume she was forced to or afraid of the consequences if she didn’t. https://people.com/celebrity/evan-rachel-wood-defends-marilyn-manson-breakup/
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WARNING. Stay away from these accounts and do not interact with them: Leslee Lane, Oatmeal, and palliatian.elixir. Especially the Palliatian account. I know for a fact they are not who they say they are. Their pics are fake and they even lied about their first name. It’s either an associate or someone that works for Manson who set up that account on IG for him to use. As shown, there is a consistent pattern of that palliatian.elixir account and his real account posting at the same times.
That article is only partly true.
She lived with Manson at the time, but he never owned a guest house during that time. He lived in an apartment above a liquor store in West Hollywood.
It is true that he was abusive
though.The source stated that in the article. Even back then! Let that sink in.
I'm sure Manson didn't like Evan's brother because he wanted her completely isolated.
She said that when she tried to get away the first time Manson only gave her an hour or something to pack her things and that the people who helped her were literal lifesavers. I'm sure her brother was there and got in a fight with Manson, which is why people reported all that stuff to the magazine. Again, not all of it is true.
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They split the first time in October 2008.
NME reported that her brother was the reason in early November.
Evan never invited him to live with them lmao
Half of the article is a lie.
Anything to back up your words?
Like I don't know anything. There are articles with conflicting information, idk why you guys are so confident when you talk about that incident. I just assumed she invited him to live with him bc idk it's just a random thing that popped up in my head.
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At first I thought I met him back in 2015 through the fake Satan account on Twitter (not the S8n one). Nikki Sixx follows it, who when I had twitter I used to also follow.
But it wasn’t until March of this year - after the whole search warrant thing and I found out Manson made these insane allegations on me, that he actually knew who I was way before 2015 through a relative of a guy I knew when I used to live in Cleve. He found my account through him dating all the way back to 2012.
I ended up finding this all out because that guy I met in OH posted something very weird on his FB, along with another FB account, who I was friends with. Which was really weird that he posted what he did because I was always suspicious of that account having something to do with Manson, but I was never sure.
They both made similar posts about “looking for recommendations” for “contractors” at exactly around the same time, about two and half weeks after the cops came and served me the warrant. I was like what the fuck is going on here?
So why was that weird to me? Because when I was being questioned by the cops, they were questioning about who I lived with and what they did. And I told them that my now ‘ex-roommate’ did contracting work. These fucking cops or someone involved with this whole thing told Manson personal information about me and my roommate that had nothing to with his allegations that even needed to be said to anyone. For one, my roommate had no idea what the fuck was going on or any involvement. And them sharing his information that had nothing to do with anything, that ‘s not right. That’s unprofessional and shady shit. So I told my lawyer about this and showed him the posts, and he thought that was seriously fucked up too, And that’s when I did research on that guy I met in OH and found out he’s related to Manson.
I’m not her. If I was, wouldn’t they have deleted my post? Why so mad? Is it because she really is speaking the truth about your pathetic idol?
What doesn’t make sense? She said she first thought he found her account through a fake account on Twitter, but when she found out he made allegations on her, she found out he found her account through a guy she met that he’s related to.
Obviously, you are her because no one else is dumb enough to buy into her bullshit. They didn't delete your original post either. And you still never explained why he supposedly made allegations against you.
You never said anything about him making false claims against you until the last thread. Before that, you were trying to say that he used one of your IG captions. “Master the chaos in you,” and, “We Are Chaos,” have one (1) word in common. The quote you used was by someone named Mama Indigo anyway, so he didn't steal anything from you in the first place. If anything, you're the one that took that quote from them because you never gave credit. And don't start with the intellectual property theft bullshit again because there's no proof anywhere that he was ever actually on your account. If you can take him to court for that, so can every other brainless, middle-aged woman that uses those stupid quotes in their captions.
I definitely don't doubt that he uses fake accounts to groom girls and harass his accusers, but there's no way that I believe anything you're saying. Either post some viable proof or shut the fuck up.
Again, I’m not her. Don’t they delete her posts? They didn’t delete her original post because they didn’t start deleting them until towards the end of the last thread.
Where are you even getting that she is middle age, lol? What does that have to do with anything that you would even bring that up? Because that’s a lie, she looks nowhere near it.
How do you know no one believes her? Do you know everyone that talks to her? Her friends and other people on her social media seem to believe her. When she posted about the ‘We Are Chaos’ song, that was just one example. She said he used conversations and posts from her FB on more songs, like don’t ‘Don’t Chase The Dead’. And how do you explain what he said in that interview he did for that Italian article?
I'm genuinely convinced that you're her because if you would've seen what “she” posted in the last few threads, you wouldn't believe anything she says either. Maybe you're new, I don't know, but if you are, you need to go back and read the previous threads. There's more information there besides the shit about Dawn.
Anyway… He never said anything about her in that Italian article. And it doesn't matter when her posts started being deleted in the last thread. Moderators can delete them whenever. Apparently, her ban is up, so she's posting again regardless of whether or not you're her: >>1106013
I meant “no one” as in other anons, at least not the majority. I'm not sure why anyone would. She hasn't showed any legitimate proof for any of us to believe her. If she had any, I'm sure she would've posted it by now. It wouldn't hurt her credibility in court any more than posting on a gossip forum already has. But I doubt she has a case anyway.
Nope, I’m someone else, but think what you want. I thought they were still deleting her posts.
She has posted proof, mostly on her social media. I just find it hard to believe that someone who isn’t legit would post about this in front of everyone she knows and have a lawyer.
I didn’t mean he talked about her in the article, I meant this >>1025612
When he talked about what his new album was going to be about, it sounded like that conversation.
I follow her social media accounts and I've never seen her post about anything besides a few of his alleged fake porn accounts in her story (and that wouldn't be illegal even if he did/does have one, so I don't understand why she posted about it in the first place).
Some of the anons in the previous threads thought she might've been a sockpuppet or someone on Manson's payroll, trying to discredit his real victims
. And I doubt she has a lawyer. I might be wrong, but I think she said Casey Anthony, the same lawyer that represented Harvey Weinstein at the beginning of his case, was her attorney. That's very hard to believe.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but I think everything she's said here is bullshit. I think if you knew everything she's posted in the past few threads, you would too.
A lot of it is on FB, but she’s posted some stuff in her IG stories too, more than just about that porn account. Maybe you missed it. And you must’ve missed the part about why she was posting about that account. She posted about it, because, it is illegal. He’s using fake accounts to solicit minors. And he made gross comments to one on that account. That account definitely sounds a lot like him, especially with him being a predator and with so many people saying about how he’s a pedophile.
I don’t know who Harvey Weinstein’s lawyer is, but he couldn’t be her lawyer because she doesn’t live in NY. So they must’ve been talking about someone else.
I don’t see how she isn’t a real victim
. He made allegations on her that aren’t true.
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She's really doubling down.
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lmao didn't he used to follow fan accounts like every fucking day? Now it's all industry people. Def staying on the downlow while whatsherface is squeezing out every bit of attention she can get lmfao
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He still follows some fan accounts, search Manson on his follow list.
I noticed he slighted @mrperou’s book in his recent post, yikes.
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Speaking of Lindsay, @mansonisabusive posted this about her. I don't doubt she was abused, but I can't feel sorry for her anymore because she's had multiple chances to leave him. At this point, it really is just her fault.
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Lindsay Usich was a famous film producer.
Lindsay Warner is a film photographer. That's a downgrade, I agree.
I can't believe they did everything they could to promote her as Lindsay Usich and she changed her last name and wants to be known as Lindsay Warner. So it wasn't for his image? It was and is for her vanity.
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She completely ruined her nose. Her face doesn't even look real, especially not compared to Ashley's.
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When his album came out, I saw at least hundreds of comments on Twitter calling him a pedophile for dating Evan Rachel Wood.
Who knows for sure… but it is odd how that account and his real one seem to post at the same times. Also, seeing this tweet was very weird, and the response to it made me think of ERW.
Vanity? Do you really think someone with a face like that is vain? Honestly, she can have thousands of fillers injected into her face and lips, it won't help her.
You can be a fan or not but you have to admit, all the women Manson showed himself in public with were beautiful.
She doesn't fit in there at all. And he married her of all things? >>1107935
Omfg. The next embarrassing attempt.
Yes I know he indeed still follows the fan accounts. He just hasn't done that in a while now while Lindsey is still following anyone who gives her any bit of attention lmao there's new ones that are showing up that she follows immediately and its probably made by her. But whatever the truth is, now he's all into following industry people. Im surprised hes still following the fan accounts from before.
I just think it's interesting cos he's trying to clean up his image. So now it's all follows for singers, actors, directors, publicists, producers, writers.
Just pointing out that his game has chhanged. And if hes trying to distance himself from Johny Depp then LMAO that would be my favorite move. Like everyone knows why.
And Lindsey is such a narcissist omg. I'm so positive that shes creating all those lindsey+manson instagrams because seriously who would even give a fuck about her? Manson has two types of fans. Those who love his music and those who hate lindsey because they're obsessed with him. It's so dumb. And her account is full of bot follows.
It's obvious that she knows the person on that one website , metalheadzone. It's the only website that posts about her and they write an article about her sharing a flower on her insta stories LMAOO as if anyone cares. She's a nobody and the bots make her AND him look so bad. How tf is he not embarrassed by her? It's so sad. But color me shocked for him not seeing right through it. Hes not as smart as he thinks. He married someone so vapid and vain. Definition of the types he used to hate. Hes a sell out. SAD.
lol right? How did he end up with someone so hollow? I dont care if she's not as attractive as his previous exs but when someone so blah comes with such a shitty personality, it's like oh I see.. Manson is into someone so lifeless, basic and boring. Bless her though. She tries so hard lol
I love that this website is one of the top results when you type his name in. Its how I discovered it and you lot are the best. Must hurt that no one but metalheadzone cares and it has nothing to do with her not being famous. Shes just boring.
He obviously got married to clean up his image because if he seriously loves someone so hollow, then he's lamer than I thought. Whats next? A baby? For sympathy? LMAO I would love to see him sink that low. He's already sinking faster than the titanic with this obvious display of desperation. He either cant find someone better than Lindsey now or her brainless self appeals to him for those reasons alone. Color me stunned.
I disagree with you, anon, I certainly think he is smart and I'm sure he could find someone better.
I try to express myself in a civilized way, I think he has his reasons to have married such a dull person. Whether that reason has anything to do with "love" is another matter.
I can well imagine that she is behind many of these ridiculous M&L accounts. Who else would do this and for what reason?
IDK, but this does sound like something he would say. I don’t know anyone that would think that way. What a sick imbecile freak. I knew he needed psychological help, but if that’s his account, he really REALLY needs it. This is seriously disturbing.
You have Lindsay with her fake lame ass and posting selfie’s - and then Manson running some porn account and jerking off 24/7 a day. This is just sad. Two useless losers in society.
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Maybe, but it seems unlikely, especially considering the person that owns that account is supposedly black. If he was going to post his nudes, I don't think he'd use someone else's. He even posted a video of himself having sex on IG, so why would he start trying to hide now? Narcissists are exhibitionists. It wouldn't make sense for him to do that. And he's racist. He has no motive to own an account like that.
don't get it.. When I was a teen who was swooning over him, I used to think he was the smartest man alive. I'll be 40 in less than a week and what experience taught me is that a lot of fake-intelligent men are drawn to really dumb airheads. that's one way to ensure you have the upper hand in a relationship. I'd really like to see a smart dude being unafraid to be with a true equal. Then again the other thing age has taught me is that the ones I thought were smart once were far from it .. they just learned well how to come off as smart.
Can't expect people to see you as intelligent when your fragile ego can't handle anything better than a sad attention seeking vapid airhead.
STOP TALKING TO DAWN.
In the last thread a mod warned that anybody who talks to her must be banned.
What the fuck now? What are the mods doing? Did anybody go to meta?
If there's no milk, just let the thread rest ffs. If you post one hundred more times why Lindsay is useless and wouldn't get any attention without him, it won't count as contribution.
Sage for losing my shit.
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She's still milking her mother's death.
She don’t give two shits… Look how fake that post sounds.
Yeah someone who is sad continuously posts on IG like —“look at me!” Look at me!” “I’m so great!” “I married a gross cheating racist pedo!”
Tears are already dripping down my face.
The grief must be infinite when, two weeks after Mother's death, you're in the mood to take mirror selfies with a "Mrs. Warner" stocking on Halloween.
My guess is "Mrs. Warner" would have "Mrs. Warner" tattooed in bold letters on her forehead if she could. It's so ridiculous if it weren't so pathetic.
The main thing is that Instagram ass kissers applaud "Mrs. Warner." Let's see how long "Mrs. Warner" will "stay Mrs. Warner".
Yeah he probably got it from Dawn lol.
I wonder if he’s referring to her or mansonisabusive in that interview.
LMAO Dawn has shown zero proof
she knows Manson. She’s too stupid to realize false accusations and bogus evidence helps him.
This was her ‘evidence’ that Madelyn still talks to Manson. >>989059
Dawn thinks she’s an alien, she’s clearly mentally ill and wants attention.
Stop trolling these threads with your bullshit, you’re not helping yourself or anyone here. No attorney would advise you to act insane on a public board and share dubious screenshots.
Ugh… not her… and he knows who she is because he made allegations on her. She’s one of main people that speaks out about him,. So stop trying to discredit her, ANGELA… or is it Manson? >>1109571
Nobody is acting insane. And so what if someone is mentally ill? Quit shaming. Even if someone did have mental illness, it doesn't make them stupid and liars. It’s actually a FACT that people with certain mental illness such as depression and anxiety are intelligent.
Is it fun to talk to yourself, Dawn?
It sucks, by the way.
Who the fuck is Angela? Someone else you're trying to accuse? Posting fake evidence just discredits his real victims
. You don't need to fake shit to incriminate him—there's enough out about him already. Go be an attention whore somewhere else.
Listen lady, you’re nuts that you keep accusing me of being her. Go watch a nice Hallmark Christmas movie and calm your tits, instead of jerking off to porn 24/7. No wonder you’re so angry. Porn addiction causes violence.
Maybe you don’t think she’s a real victim
, but I do.
Anyway, it's nothing you didn't already see.
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Speaking of Dawn. Someone made a tribute page lol and it's definitely someone from lolcow
They also changed the name already
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Callmemrpretentious looks more suspicious. Perou responded after Manson called Reedus' book the best of the year.
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More versions of what has happened in Denny's 1/2
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It’s the same incident when Manson got punched in the face at Denny’s. Sounds like he deserved it. >>1109978
He is so gross, that’s the second time I’ve read he called them bitches for turning down sex. Imagine being so drunk/arrogant/disturbed he does this in front of their boyfriends.
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Saging is for when you're not contributing to the thread. Just type “sage” in the email field before you post, unless you have milk. Posts are automatically anonymous, so you can just leave your name blank.
And that's really weird. I doubt it was a coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a fling or something, especially since there were some rumors going around lately that she'd been on a talk show with bruises on her arms and apparently she made a gesture for other victims
It really can be. Like I said, it's a common phrase. That's like saying two singers who have used the phrase "a chip on your shoulder" in their lyrics can't be coincidental just because they've interacted in some capacity before.
To think that one shared (and again, very common) phrase means anything happened between TS and Manson is just reaching.
Fearless is full of shit. >>1110294
The lyrics in both of the songs are nothing alike. The only similar verse is “champagne problems”. That’s it. That’s like Dawn when she posted about “We Are Chaos”.
Also, Taylor Swift is not friends with him. They met at some award show a couple years ago. Just because you meet someone once doesn’t mean you’re “friends” or know them on a personal level.
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I've never seen her smile before, but somehow it's even worse than her regular resting bitch face.
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I’d be willing to bet she knows who that person is because she has their number, just like Manson does.
It’s evident he’s on that account. What he posted, that’s on that computer about “change”, is what he said in the Jan. 2020 Italian article, and part of the lyrics to Keep My Head Together.
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I’m genuinely confused by what she means here, is this a positive or negative for 2021? Why is she so cryptic.
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TL;DR I found a woman who wrote to fearless at Manson's request.
I'm trying to catch up with the threads and I was pleasantly impressed with that post >>1077285
It is a pity, however, that anon did not bring any proofs that Manzin does not like Lindsay, I decided to find it myself and started with his Facebook. The plan was like that: check his posts 2012-2015, comments, then go see his Instagram but Facebook was just enough.
I was looking through photos and came across this one, it's in the pic too:https://www.facebook.com/manzindotnet/photos/photo-by-tater-tot-skye9815nashville-tn/882732065125846
I saw Grazioso and thought it was familiar. I did my best to remember where I saw it and I knew I definitely saw it online because such last names are not common at my place. I gave up.
And then a few days ago an amazing anon posts this >>1100345
Grazioso! Well of course kinda strange I didn't remember right away but whatever. Well in short, I decided to google and found this https://www.menhavingbabies.org/surrogacy-seminars/ny/program/
Not very promising, isn't it? An article about a kind woman who gives birth to kids of gay couples but there is one moment that deserves attention: >marcy is a three-time surrogate from connecticut who has worked with same-sex male couples on two occasions. She is the mother of one daughter. Being a surrogate has provided her with so many meaningful experiences and wonderful memories
There is also a photo of this kind-hearted woman (see pic related).
I thought it was a bit surreal. A surrogate mother is a flying monkey of Manson? That's too much. But I went on to google their names together. I found an obituary:>We'll always love you-Andrea,Andrew, Marcy and Tatianahttps://www.legacy.com/obituaries/palmbeachpost/obituary.aspx?n=fred-campagnuolo&pid=86219987
but that didn't prove anything, and it still seemed crazy to me that a gay surrogate mother could help Manson. I abandoned that idea and continued to dig up Manzin's photos. At some point I found myself lurking on his website and looking at a very inetersting photo, see pic related.
Holy shit, right?
But there's more!
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Now let's take a little closer look at Tatyana Tater Skye Grazioso.
She has photos with William Corgan on Facebook. Her FB https://www.facebook.com/votreesclave
She is also credited on mansonwiki, on the photo from 2013. https://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/2013/01/25_Wallingford,_CT
And most importantly! I was procrastinating and scrolling Instagram feed and spotted nobody but Tatyana Grazioso in a video from Manson's birthday! She is holding the cake! And it's 2020.
If fearless went to his birthday parties before 2018, then obviously she could have met both Tatyana and her mother since Tatyana is clearly a longtime friend of Manson's. Was it really a surprise for fearless to receive an email from someone with Grazioso as their last name?
Is it a reach?
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I don't have any ideas how to comment on that. Just that Jen Mazza is not a popular artist.
Tatyana's ig is @measurelessliar
Thank you! Could you link manzins website?
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We are about to dive into an ocean of milk.
She’s Manson’s primary victim
, why not read into it. I doubt she can speak freely. >>1111852
That’s crazy, good investigation work. I have to wonder why a friends mother would help him? Maybe they just used her name? >>1111984
Looking forward to this.
I am just happy somebody's gonna talk about the abuse. His videos get 100k views on average.
So Madelyn really did have a fling with Manson? If Tatyana is friends with him, she would've known that he was having an affair with her. And she wouldn't have had any other reason to copy her unless Madelyn was actually with him, even for just a little while.
It seems like Tatyana was only friends with with because she had a crush on him and she thought it would lead to them being in a relationship. I really don't understand how she could know him, find out he's an abuser, then still want to be with him after that.
You're mixing things up, anon.
I don't know who this Tatyana is but she is definitely not the woman holding the cake at Manson's birthday party. Her IG is paulababy1, a longtime friend of his.>>1112046
I think she will never allow comments because then she would have to deal with negative comments as well and then her perfect world shit show would break apart and her true bitch behavior would come to light again.
She prefers to let the fangirls do that, who defend her on their ridiculous M&L accounts with their "hate will be blocked" postings. Unless, of course, she's behind them herself.
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Some comments on the video.
Manson said in an interview that he learned how to fight in case he does go to prison because he doesn’t want someone to make him his “bitch”. I don’t get it. You would think he would want that because he says he likes dick.
I’m also completely disturbed that he actually bragged and said no one talks about the real
illegal shit he’s done. All that comes to mind is that he raped a minor or something.
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I took a look at paulababy, it's definitely not her. But that girl looks exactly like Tatyana.
Random fan's mother helped Manson? Random fan has a lot of merch with autographs? Random fan has a long friendship with manzin? Random fan has been to William Corgan's bd?
She's not a random fan.
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How would Tatyana have fearless’s email unless Manson gave it to her? He either passed her info around or he’s making shit up.
Hardcore fans collect his autograph and befriend Manzin who’s well known in the fandom. She posted this in MMC a year ago, around the time she supposedly attended his birthday. Why wouldn’t she have anything recent is she’s fiends with him?
In your screenshot she says anything to spare. Isn't "to spare" about something you don't need anymore? It doesn't mean she didn't have anything recent.
>Hardcore fans collect his autograph and befriend Manzin who well known in the fandom.
Hello SHE WAS PARTYING IN 2013 WITH MANZIN AND NICK KUSHNIR. She probably fucked Nick, see that lipstick all over his face >>1111852
I thought it was her mother who obtained fearless' email, not Tatyana.
Where's OP? Any clarifications?
Couldn’t she just ask for another autograph if she sees him often? Why wouldn’t she have any to spare if she can just ask.
Lots of fans party with Manzin.
How would Tatyana or her mom obtain fearless’s email unless Manson gave it to them? There’s no evidence that fearless and Tatyana know each other.
I am confused. Are you the anon who says it's not Tatyana holding the cake?
Who said Tayana and fearless know each other?
I do believe Manson gave her or her mother fearless'email address.
>Lots of fans party with Manzin.
And all of them have photos like that one >>1112481
I don't think Tatyana ever emailed Michelle? The emails that she posted about were from someone named Marcy, unless there were more from someone else that I didn't see.
And that's definitely @paulababy1 in the picture. She's looks a lot heavier than Tatyana did in the pictures that were posted of her trying to skinwalk Lilith.
Also, what does Manzin have to do with any of this?
Most reasonable people here believe he had at least hooked up with her once, then rapidly lost interest when he realized how crazy she was. He already had Lindsay, so.
After participating in this thread I have my own tinfoil that there are roughly three types of girls/women he targets and stays in contact with:
1. Girls that remind him of Dita or ERW (Gabreille, Esme, Dr Ami). These seems to be the only ones he really invests any time or emotions in and doesn't completely fuck over.
2.Girls that can offer him something transactional, social resources, introductions to other girls, ect (Lilith, Jordan, Courtney Canon, Coco Teale).
3. Introverted, passive girls with low self esteem that he can mindfuck with for some kind of sadistic sexual enjoyment ( LBK). The leaked emails with LBK showed real emotional anguish on her part and response vs Madelyn's kind of dead, wooden "muh monster I lub you". >>1111855
Am I fucking crazy or is that early culey from squidbillies on his birthday cake. This is a 50+ y/o man.
yeah definitely Early from squidbillies. Unknown Hinson, the voice actor for Early, was fired this year for posting nasty shit about the BLM movement and, of all the people to attack, Dolly Parton. I'm sure Manson stands in complete solidarity with his tantrums and has made him his personal hero of 2020.
I think it's doubly pathetic that he looks to this character as a role-model, he thinks there is nothing cooler than being a white trash bigot and yet he has removed himself SO far from what he came from… He's embarrassed of that fact and tries to be 'cool'-by-association via other bigots, both real and fictional (like fellow Florida redneck neonazi Norman Reedus)
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I am OP >>1111852
Did my post hurt somebody's feelings? Suddenly there are a few anons who diligently post about Paula.
It is NOT
Paula. It is Tatyana.
If you think it's Paula then your level of being delusional is close to that of Madelyn lol.>>1112494
You linked a video in which Paula is clearly seen wearing an outfit which is nothing close
to the one the girl (Tatyana Grazioso) who's holding the cake is wearing. Then you posted a picture of Paula, specifically the one in which she's wearing an outfit similar to that of Tatyana, it means you had to go to her page, scroll her account until you found something similar to Tatyana's outfit, put it into a collage and posted. Did you think I would be too lazy to check the links? Why do you try so hard to assure everybody it is not Tatyana? The pic of Paula with a bottle is from 2017
, the video I posted is from 2020
. You should try better next time.>>1112451
First of all this >>1112487
>The Tatyana situation is indeed confusing. If she’s a “long time friend of Manson” she certainly comes across as a fangirl in the MMC.
He is surrounded by yesmen and fangirls, people who worship him, he doesn't tolerate anybody else. There is nothing strange about Tatyana selling merchandise or being a fan.>>1112525> There’s no evidence that fearless and Tatyana know each other.
I just assumed she could know Tatyana. It can be they never met. In the end, Tatyana mostly goes by Tater Skye nickname. It is possible fearless would have never learnt her last name had they met.>>1111879
Tatyana knows him personally. Madelyn, however, is questionable.>>1112322>And she wouldn't have had any other reason to copy her unless Madelyn was actually with him
I don't think she copied her, I think Manson hasn't changed his grooming strategies and keeps feeding girls the same pseudoromantic bs.
I posted pictures of Tatyana and Clare to show that he keeps going after the same type of women. I didn't mean Tatyana skinwalked Clare, lol whut?>>1112531
Reread my original post. If it doesn't help, go ask your parents to buy you this for Christmas https://www.amazon.com/Primarily-Logic-Grades-Judy-Leimbach/dp/1593631227/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&
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Is anyone else curious why he tells people not to share pictures from his parties? Like, what could've went on during his birthday that he wouldn't want people to know about? Or maybe he was just having a bad chin day or he didn't want to be photographed with Lindsay (if she was even invited).
Probably cause no one likes to see pics of themselves wasted / on coke / various other drugs. Especially not when you don't know people are taking pictures of you. So that's one thing I understand.
About Tatyana. She does strike me as Madelyn No 2. Wasn't her account full of Manson posts ages ago? Why does she post about other musicians and not Manson? Strange.
Then she started the Schiele shit + cryptic posts. Similar to Madelyn.
They probably shagged once or twice and she's hopelessly in lub with her monstuh. Like Mads kek.
lol that's true
but the connection between Manson and Marcy is proved though. He used his fangirl's mom to stalk fearless.
she could fake it for style.
and like >>1112878
said it doesn't change much. >>1112881
She's been to Billy Corgan's bd. Manson has been to a few. It's possible they could meet there but as I said it doesn't change much.
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Like I said, her accounts were full of manson shit back when she went by Tater Skye. Or Tater Tot.
This took me a 5 sec google search.
Note that she posted this pic on the forum herself.
Makes me wonder why all her manson posts are gone now lol
I don't think he ever really meant to hurt them. Narcissists do
feel remorse and empathy—their emotions are just muted. He has a lot of problems mentally and he didn't get help when he needed it. Everyone in his circle has fed into his fantasies for so long that it's turned him into a lost cause. Even in interviews, he sounds like he's given up on himself. Like, “This is who I am. Take or leave it.”
You forgot to add Rose McGowan. She’s the ONLY woman I know of he didn’t fuck over, abuse, and cheat on. She was probably his ideal.
I remember when I first saw her with him. I was like… how is someone so pretty dating THAT.
I think if he finally had a real woman by his side, who's with him for his sake and not for his money, things would be different. You can hate me for this, anons but I wish him that he still finds this woman.
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Patricia Arquette tweeted this today. lol
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Her caption reads like a thinly veiled cry for help.
I think the thing that honestly annoys me most about them is that both of them could've had so much potential if they would've made better choices, but instead they do shit like this. If he would've gone to therapy and checked himself into rehab, he might not have turned out to be an abuser. And Lindsay didn't have to be a gold-digging whore. She could've had a normal life, like Ashley (which isn't much of an improvement, but still). Some of her photographs really aren't that bad, even though they definitely don't look like the work of someone that's supposedly been a photographer for 20+ years. And both of them have just gotten progressively worse since they've been together, like they feed into each other's toxicity. She looks like an amateur beekeeper from everything she's done to her face and I doubt Manson ever releases another good record, especially if the last one was any barometer. I know I'm in the minority, but I really do hope that they split up and work on themselves, even though it's not what they deserve.
Nta can you link with caps? It is from 2020, follow the link, it'll take you to Paula's account, the date is there. The other one is from 2017, and the cap is above. At this point it doesn't even matt tbh, if anons agreed it's not Tatyana.
Why are some anons upset over posts about Tatyana? It's great it was proved one more time that he orders his fans to do shady things for him. It's definitely her mother was emailing fearless. It's hard to deny it.
I think anon mentioned fearless, implying that if both Tatyana and fearless used to go to his bds, fearless must have known Grazioso and that would have proved she's a liar one more time, but that's not Tayana in the video. (I have to admit though, the woman looks a lot like her)
>>1113205> I really do hope that they split up and work on themselves, even though it's not what they deserve.
No fucking way.
Or he'll go to jail for men and she'll go to the one for women. I have no mercy or sympathy for these ugly abusers.
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lmaoo he cheated on Rose with at least Dita Von Teese.
In January 2001 he invited Dita to one of his concerts while he was STILL with Rose. Dita stayed on his tour bus for 5 days. Courtney Love talked about how Manson constantly had girls backstage on tour while he was dating Rose.https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a71/dita-von-teese-0507/
He never really meant to hurt them????
He doesn't give a fuck about others. He deliberately cheated on each and every one of them, physically tortured them, locked them in rooms for hours on end, verbally and mentally abused them.
How fucking stupid can you be?
This is exactly what he does. Manipulate people so they think that he's the victim
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Found a random Lindsay cap while looking around MMC. The comments said she deleted it within hours.
She’s comparing Manson to Susan Powell, a Trump lawyer. Basically calling him crazy. >>1113205>>1113368
Compared to how Lindsay used to post she’s so wooden now, devoid of real personality. Her account is so strange now, imo. No comments, bot followers, vague, bland posts. It’s like she’s a prop. >>1113218>Why are some anons upset over posts about Tatyana? It's great it was proved one more time that he orders his fans to do shady things for him. It's definitely her mother was emailing fearless. It's hard to deny it.
I’m not upset but OP was kinda aggressive pushing a conspiracy that’s not true. I searched all of Tatyana’s posts on MMC and there’s no indication she knows him beyond a fan. If she attended Manson’s birthday wouldn’t she brag about it on social media like she did for Corgan? Paula did and she’s his real friend. Why would Manson ask a fan’s mother to email fearless and expose himself like that? Imo, the more likely scenario is they just used her name or it’s a coincidence.
It's not Tatyana or Paula. They don't have a mole or piercing beneath their lip.
I don't think we should continue discussing it, it doesn't matter anymore since it's not Tatyana.
>hey just used her name or it’s a coincidence.
that's very unlikely imo, given his record.
I remember that Manson was so pissed bc she posted about Lily being sick. She even says it in the caption.
She had to delete it almost immediately.
I don’t think he cheated on Rose. She would’ve said if he did. I mean…maybe he did, and she just didn’t know.
It says in the media she broke up with him in 2001, but it doesn’t give a month. It must’ve been at the very beginning of Jan., but most likely she broke up with him before that and that’s just when they announced it to the media.
Then he got with Dita soon after. She was the rebound relationship from Rose.
He bounces from relationship to relationship, and either gets engaged or married to the first woman he starts dating. >>1113223
Exactly. He’s a full blown narcissist, and seems like he could also be a sadistic psychopath. They have no remorse or empathy. He is literally the lowest form of inhumane shit on the planet. He has no redeeming qualities.
If he did, he would’ve gotten help a long time ago, instead of marrying Lindsay and thinking that’s going to do anything for him. >>1113220
This. They both belong in prison.
Whether he feels remorse or not doesn't matter. If you get raped, assaulted, screamed at, harrassed and stalked it won't make you feel better if your abuser "feels bad". I think 51 years old is a good fucking age to take some fucking personal responsibility for yourself.
I'm an abuse survivor and I struggle with flashes of violent rage, guess how many people I have raped or tortured? 0.
However I'm not sure if prison is the place for Manson. The mental ilness and addiction are both so obvious in this case that I think a psychiatrist is the option that makes the most sense. He was always an entitled aggressive little shit, but the drugs and booze have made his brains into eggnog and demolished all self-control, as evidenced by his Uncle Fester dad bod and chins.
He literally talks like a 5 year old. "A good woman" isn't going to love it out of him, I think all of these dozens of girls loved him. I propose an ayahuasca shaman, a psychiatrist, therapist, exorcist and the black guy from the movie Cruising to slap him every time he oppens his gob.
He wrote in his book that his father was a veteran and he still wasn't around when he was discharged, so his mother made him dress like him and called him by his name. I don't think he ever said anything about his father hitting her, but he did say that he threw a perfume bottle at her once and split her lip open. There were a few more things he did, but he never went into specifics. And she did have MSBP, but she never made him have his earlobes clipped. She suggested it, but he was an adult. He did it out of his own free will.
I remember him saying something about his father telling a girl that he'd introduce her to him if she gave him her underwear on Jay Leno(?) sometime in the late 90s-early 2000s. And there were some caps in one of the other threads of Hugh asking girls to send him nudes on Twitter. He just seemed like a typical dirty old man.
Judging by her livejournal, she was already mentally underdeveloped before she met him, but I feel like her finally having someone famous to latch onto just exacerbated all of her craziness. I mean, he obviously doesn't love her and there's no way to sugar-coat that. And she obviously doesn't love him either or she wouldn't continuously post about their relationship like it's some rare, amazing spectacle instead of just being with him.
It's like if no one sees it then it didn't happen. Most 36-year-olds at least have jobs and some form of their own income. It's pathetic.
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There's even an exact date! Lmao
Of course Dita was the reason they split up a week after Dita spent five days with him on his tour bus. It's a little too obvious.
This live journal was a true literary masterpiece. Rarely have I read such a bunch of bullshit in one sitting. And she hasn't evolved in any way. A conversation with her must be about as interesting as with a slice of bread.
This whole show is so unbelievable and embarrassing. I'm curious when she'll post a picture of stained bedding. As "proof" of how unbelievable and unattainable for everyone the night with "my love" was, lol.
My ass, isn't it disgusting enough to parasitize your way through life at the expense of your husband at the age of 36? I remember an interview where he said he was attracted to strong, independent women. She's neither one thing nor the other.
Interesting. Well, that could just be when they announced it to the media. I don’t know , maybe the piece of shit cheated on Rose, too, but she never said. She just said she broke up with him because of his cocaine habit.
If he did cheat, and Dita knew about Rose, then Dita deserved getting cheated on, and Manson deserved getting shitted on by her for being a pathetic low-life. Dita was only with him to make a name for herself anyway.
You’re right about that…. there is nothing about that relationship that’s based on love. She’s with him for his money, and
he’s incapable of love. He doesn’t love no one. So he married a stupid looking slut who puts up with & is okay with all the vile shit he does. He probably thinks she’s with him and stayed all those years because she does love him. >>1113893
Manson is pure fucking evil, and even boasts about it. That’s why he’s into all that Satanic shit. Those people are immoral and that’s why they thrive off of doing sick shit. People who are empathetic don’t go around raping, assaulting, and abusing others.
He couldn't control Dita. Which was why he was constantly drunk and on drugs and ultimately looked for an easier victim
Then he blamed Dita and said she wanted to change him although he wanted to change her.
Jordan Arentz said on her blog that he is obsessed with appearance and how he and his partner look together. Dita suited his image/appearance perfectly. An articulate high class stripper that looks like snow white. He tried to change every single woman that came after into her.
Rose McGowan and Dita were the only seemingly independent women he ever dated. Rose probably only dated him for attention (she herself said that Manson's ugly and that she wasn't interested at first), Dita wasn't interested at first either and probably also only dated him for fame.
How other people see him and his reputation seem to be the only things that matter to him. Typical narcissist.
I don't mean to defend Manson but I lowkey love the golden age of grotesque and read a lot about the era.
He had that burlesque vibe before he met Dita, he obsesses over Bettie Page. It's sad to say but deep inside I think he chose Dita because she would make (and she did) a good accessory to the visuals of the album. If you read Dita's book, you'd know Manson helped her with her style, perfected it.
I love her style too, and I used to love her personality. Now I feel so wrong about it.
Well, looks like his “visuals” didn’t do so well, because that album totally bombed. Lmao
> And sure he loved Dita's image, so much that he basically ripped her burlesque/silent movie star vibe for Golden Age of Grotesque.
She said he used her to “write” that album. He sure loves to rip off other women.
Anon i absolutely get it, Manson sometimes looked like clown in that era but it felt fresh then with the videos, cinema references, cabaret burlesque vibes, plus the website, felt just fun to explore. I know he liked those things but with Dita probably he felt finally bold enough to embrace it even if fans wouldn't like it. I see what you say about her being nice accessory to him. He used her as an extra for videos (mobscene), they went to red carpets alot.
Damn Manson actually had a woman with similar interests that was able to inspire him and then he let it go just like that for a young, completely different girl. Dita in a lot of ways was ready made "dream girl" material while he had to progressively change Evan to his liking. Guess in the end he preferred someone still growing and naive so he can mold them however he wants. Dita was too strong for him. But it's stupid when people say "Dita broke him down" or something, he brought it all upon himself. >>1115007
It seems it's 50/50, it's funny how this one's considered both a flop and his last good era.
while you're probably right about all of that, I do think Dita probably had feelings towards him because it was pretty obvious she was very hurt by him cheating on her, hence the moving out on Christmas day
. Maybe they all 'started' to date him for a reason but eventually got feelings.
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I honestly can't understand how anyone is attracted to him. He looks seriously diseased. The blotches on his hip remind me of the ones you see on AIDS patients. Or maybe they're just bed sores because he's basically a vegetable.>>1115106
Lilith being underage when he actually fucked her is debatable, but that's not what I was talking about. I meant girls that are really young, as in less than 15-16. Being a pedophile and having sex with older minors are two different things. Pedophiles are attracted to childlike characteristics. Lilith was physically mature and already a junkie by the time they were together. That obviously doesn't excuse the fact that he pretended to be a teenage girl to groom her or all the other shit that went on between them that we don't know about, but he isn't a pedophile.
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You really don't know whether to laugh or vomit. What has she done to her eyes? At some point, they're probably vertical in her strange face. Horrible. It's a mystery to me how anyone can find anything beautiful about this person. The sight of her makes me sick.
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I mean her pictures are always heavily photoshopped, even polaroids, but you can clearly see that Manson is completely fucked up and doesn't know what's going on. And she smiles like everything's fine. They are both fucking sick.
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This is the most hilarious fucking thing I've seen all day. He looks high out of his mind—I doubt he even dressed himself. I don't think anyone could handle her sober.
A YouTuber has announced a series about his abusive
behaviour, and hus biggest attempt to claim innocence is that pathetic T-shirt?
Lol these idiots can't understand that his abusive
behaviour towards Lindsay has been documented itt and nothing that they'll do now can help
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A much more realistic version a few years ago.
Don’t try to normalize it with this sick shit. A minor is a minor, there is no difference. It’s not like he’s only a few years older, they’re children compared to him.
Lilith did NOT look like no matured woman. She looked like some nasty ass child midget troll.
Just FYI, he IS a sick pedo who is also attracted to like 11 year olds and thinks they’re “hot” and uses fake accounts to solicit them. Especially ones who live in these foreign Asian or Middle Eastern countries.
There is a difference. It doesn't make it right, but being attracted to a 10-year-old and a 17-year-old is not the same thing.
Lilith might be ugly, but she was physically mature. And she was probably 18 when they had sex. He's not a complete idiot. He knows better than to have a high-profile relationship with a minor.
And you implying that he's a xenophile makes your other accusations even more unrealistic. I thought you said he was racist? Racism and fetishizing other races are different things too. The more you lie, the more unbelievable your story becomes. No one believes you. GO AWAY.
Omg stop trying to normalize or justify it in your sick mind with this “xenophile” shit. That’s just semantics. A child is a child no matter what word you wanna use - and it’s REPULSIVE!
YES fetishizing a race is RACIST! Again, don’t try to justify racism!
So last year, I noticed something that made me believe Evan and Esme.
He was doing the 2019 summer tour with Rob Zombie, and the first few nights he was OK, like he clearly tried hard to at least keep his vocals in shape. Then the Phoenix Act passed, and the very next day he was sloshed, and he stayed sloshed for the remainder of the tour. People talked about cancelled meet and greets, he didn't show up for a song once (Rob Zombie said it was due to a "cold") and he just looked like a dying whale, forgot lyrics, pulled down his pants on stage, and didn't hit a single note for the rest of summer. There was also some weird thing with Lindsay. She wasn't with him until the middle of the tour. Hope tweeted something like "Here she goes to be with her man", then Lindsay was spotted and people began reposting that one picture of her backstage. Then Rob Zombie quietly ditched him for this year.
I really don't like how people say that Dita or Evan made him go off the deep end, or that a woman could have fixed any of it, especially one of those broken teenagers, or put the blame on them. Manson is a narcissist. They get in your head. They do a cycle of love bombing and abuse and people get trapped in that shit for years, even when they are in a relationship with some nobody who lives in a trailer park. They have a way of making their victims feel worthless and powerless. Manson has Hollywood connections, gang connections and a shitload of money on top of being 10 feet tall. He is a lot scarier than some nobody in a wife beater. He's a broken person, but it's not some random woman's job to fix it. It's not Lindsay's job either. He's had decades to develop self-awareness and self-control and he didn't.
I've been listening to Killing Joke lately, and damn. I know he's a huge fan and he keeps comparing himself to them, but it's like night and day and HUD fucking sounds NOTHING like Killing Joke. It's actually a little insulting. Jaz Coleman is 9 years older than him and he still makes better, more relevant music, and the lyrics are very clever, even though he's a conspiratard now. At least he's aware of his surroundings and interested in something other than the lint in his own navel. Most industrial musicians have matured into really interesting people and continue making fantastic music. Their interactions with fans are humble and cordial, their interviews are really interesting, and their lives are private. Manson just keeps digging inside his dickhole and revealing all the horrors that he finds in there and expects people to pay for it. I don't understand why people think he's a genius tbh, compared to real industrial Manson's music was always the kindergarden version and dumbed down and his whole aesthetic isn't new or invented by him. He just made it mainstream.
Basically, Lindsay joined him on tour when he needed a nanny? JFC
He should have known better anyway. Just like you said, it was and is his job to fix himself.
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I've been watching their relationship through @marilynmansonews on insta and it's clear that there's something very fishy going on. From what I put together, he dated mostly other women in 2015-2016, then dragged her back into his life in 2017 when his father died, and things were OK, she was spotted in public with him a lot, but then they started fighting constantly.
If you look at the body language of the photos of them together it looks really really sinister. I think they went to Greece together for Valentine's like a real couple, then had a massive fight. Somebody said she was writing with lipstick on his walls or something. Around that time someone started an IG account for Lindsay and it was all pictures of her with captions like "starting over".
Then literally like clockwork every time Evan did something, Lindsay was dragged into the spotlight. He took her to some fashion show and got Dita von Teese to pose with them and speak about him in an interview. From what I understand, that was the first time he got Lindsay out in public in a magazine a long time. Then they began to attend parties together and the body language is all creepy. They almost looked like someone was forcing them together. He's stiff and pissed off and she's clawing at his hand like a handler at the zoo.
For example this party with Taylor Swift, he came there with Ashley and Lindsay and notice how he looks like he's about to explode and barely holding it in.
@marilynmansonews was mostly trashing Lindsay but around autumn last year it stopped. I think they were told to stop. Now they're barely posting.
I think their relationship is mostly real, but very mutually abusive
, codependent and unstable, and there's also some sort of publicity thing and possibly a contract involved. I think she's got some blackmail on him too. It is also very possible that he has some sort of brain damage from drugs. At some premiere there was a video of them where Lindsay says "Hold my hand" and she comes off like a fucking nanny. People who talk about meet and greets frequently say things like "He didn't seem to understand where he was", too, and when he talks he very often goes completely off the rails.
His mother had dementia. He could take it after after.
It's creepy though. There was somebody who posted a scene from Misery by King, and oh my… Can it be real for him?
I remember there was a video from his birthday, Manson was eating a cake, then Lindsay wiped his mouth with her finger AND ATE IT. I could never unsee it! It literally looked as if she was his mother and he was 5 y.o.
I know about schizophrenia but she had dementia too, it developed closer to her death.
And yet he came across sober and a bit more realistic about himself in interviews this last year. So it's hard to say.>>1115300
I am so sorry for that, anon. I wish I forgot it.
I am shocked they spent Christmas with Ashley and her husband, though he is not in the photos. Did Ashley take her kids to Manson's house? Is that bitch crazy too? She let her sister go like that, and now her kids?
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This issue has been done to death, read the old Lilith Levisis threads. They didn’t physically meet until she was 18 and living in nyc for college, before that she lived in bumfuck nowhere in Kentucky with her rich republican mom and wasn’t even “goth” until she met him, just some tumblr era alt girl blue hair shit. Their meeting happened 100% by accident thru her friendship with internetgirl.
I don't doubt that she's hard to tolerate, but maybe he was just mugging for the camera like he always does. There are plenty of pictures of him and L together where he looks pissed of though.
And I don't think he has brain damage so much as he's just always high. He seems fine in interviews, especially the current ones, but that could be an act too because of the accusations resurfacing.
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This is why no one speaks out about him.
and whistleblowers get bullied and harassed.
They’re making fun of Edwin for being gay? That’s fucked up. How much proof do they fucking need, Edwin used testimony and verified sources. Whoever is behind @oatmealosboune is legit deranged and way too invested in defending a celebrity who doesn’t care about them.
The ironic thing is that his fan-base is supposedly judgement free while they're using “gay” as an insult. I think if Lindsay didn't constantly ask fans to harass people that don't like her or encourage the shit that accounts like that do, it wouldn't be as bad. The community is toxic
enough without her help.
sage for ot/bg info:
The older guy was some local junkie she hooked up with. She wrote about how she had no friends in high school so she would spend all her time with her "older boyfriend". I can't believe I've wasted braincells remember this trash info, but for some reason I remember this pretty clearly.
I'm sure she and manson communicated online, but she didn't meet him until she was 18 and he toured in nyc/nj area where she was college.She specifically said she met him for the first time in his NYC hotel room (where was lindsay? lol) and they hooked up that night. Even if she wanted to I have no idea how she would have met him sooner, her mom moved them to some tiny town in 2008 in kentucky. According the mansonwiki the only time he has every played in Kentucky within the last 20 or so years was in 1997, 2018 and 2019. Him meeting and having sex with Madelyn when was underaged actually makes more sense to me, at least she was from a large metropolitan city (charlotte) where musicians tour more often.
The music video thing has never made sense to me because as a minor, she would need the signature of parents and a chaperone to go do his video in LA, so what would be the point?
I don't think he is a pedo or even an hebephile. I think he sucks, he is a whackjob and a creep, but I think he is simply trying to recreate his relationship with ERW in these girls and she was 18 when they met. Which is gross and says nothing good about him, but is legal. He is clearly either trying to recreate Dita or trying to recreate ERW in all his relationships in the last 10+ years, except Lindsay. In soviet russia, Lindsay recreates YOU.
No he wouldn’t be dead by now. But he did get an STD in the summer of 2017. Maybe it is AIDS and that’s why Lindsay has been the only woman he’s been seen with since 2018; hence, why he married her. >>1115177
And here it is… the slut’s Christmas IG story pathetically showing off
as anons predicted. >>1113995
This is the cringiest shit. I hate fake bitches like her. “Look at me, look at me!” “what a perfect life I have!” while these two fucking low-life pieces of shit think they can fuck over other people. Hang yourself, fucking bitch.
Right… he “loves his wife” that’s why they have a sick open relationship and he fucks around on her. >>1113523
There aren't any laws about sending sexually explicit messages to minors in the United States. It's only illegal if he met up with her before she was 18 or sent/received nude pictures, which I doubt he did because he knew he could've gotten
in trouble. If he really did pretend to be 16, that is illegal.
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Sexual videos were sent.
But we still don't know if that video was sent before or after she turned 18. Him having sex with her was obviously wrong because teenagers aren't fully capable of consenting, but I don't think he did anything illegal with her.
And I thought she said that they met when he messaged her and pretended to be underage? She keeps changing her story.
You don’t know if that video was sent before or after she tuned 18 and you’re sure he did nothing illegal? You contradict yourself, we can’t know for sure. Based on the dates it’s very
close and according to Lilith it was sexual from the beginning.
I didn't mean that he's completely innocent in whatever situation went on with Lilith. He shouldn't have had sex with her, even when she was legally able to consent because she was still too young, but I don't think he did anything illegal with her because he waited until she was 18 to meet her. And I didn't say I was, “sure he did nothing illegal.”>>1115714
My comment was intended for that comment, I don’t know who is OP.
>I don't think he did anything illegal
>And I didn't say I was, “sure he did nothing illegal.”
I don’t see much of a difference but whatever, last post arguing about this.
I don't think he had Lindsay around at the time of his father's death. I remember an interview where he said he was visiting a strip club with his cousin that day. That was in 2017, she always so pathetically insists he's been "her man" for 10 years. But she apparently not "his woman", because otherwise he would hardly have to visit a strip club, lol.
She seems very desirable, lmfao.
There are two anons arguing with you.
Where do you get the idea that I'm trying to defend him? also how the fuck do I "discredit" her when she literally has never accused him of anything, still simps for him to this day and posts all the time about how wonderful he was lmao. Please integrate and read Lilith's old threads and the old soundclout/layla shapiro threads. She is not a a reliable narrator AT ALL, just like Madelyn. Since it's a known fact he doesn't speak to her anymore , it's reasonable to assume her impression of him is embellished to kiss up to him public, in the last 1-2 years she lost a lot of friends and clout and he was her most high-profile social connection.
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I know we're trying to ignore Madelyn, but her making fun of Lindsay for having so much work done when her lips literally look like they're about to pop is it's own brand of funny. It's so strange to me that he's apparently obsessed with his partner's appearance, then he can go sleep with women that look like this. She's one of the most disgusting women that I've ever had the displeasure of looking at, up there with Lindsay and Clare. She looks clean in most of her photoshoots, but she always looks like she hasn't showered in days whenever she posts spontaneous selfies.
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I'm sorry for further derailing the thread, but Maddie posted this a while ago and I've been sitting on it unable to share with anyone. I'm becoming her biggest fan.
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Which one are you talking about? Either way, it's pretty obvious if you look for older pictures of them. Both of them have lip injections and Botox. Plus, Lindsay had an eyelid-lift a few years ago and Madelyn has breast implants (according to @_noname666_).
I think one of the reasons that Lindsay looks so bad now is because goth doesn't suit her. I mean, she was ugly before, but being starch white just shows off her blemishes, not to mention the lipstick and fried hair. Madelyn wouldn't look so bad either if she didn't cake on so much foundation and washed her hair once in a while. I don't understand how he was ever attracted to either of them.
I guess not many people here want to read this, but I think it would be great if Manson got back together with Dita. But I doubt that will happen. I like her, she has style, charisma, beauty, business, everything Lindsay doesn't have. The current "Mrs. Warner" loses to absolutely every woman he has ever been spotted with. What I also find interesting, if this so overwhelmingly happy relationship has lasted for 10 years, as she always wants to make believe on IG, then why has he kept dating various other women? Googling sometimes helps, but the IG community is apparently resistant to that and kisses her ass.
What is wrong with you??? HE ABUSED WOMEN, hadn't Dita had guts to leave, she would have probably been raped and tortured just like ERW and Esmé.
Goddamn fucking fangirls everywhere.
These threads are to show that Manson and his orbiters, including Lindsay, are pieces of shit who must be kept in prison..
This is not a place to whine about why Lindsay is not as iconic as Dita (who's also a very questionable persona).
Manson wouldn't fuck you anyway.
I can't believe there are anons like you. Didn't you read the threads? Not a single woman will or would be happy and safe with him. He's basically human scum.
Ready to get banned for losing my shit.
>>1116488 why did you delete?
I think it's the second time I see somebody posted very similar to my opinion almost simultaneously with me, and then the post gets deleted.
You’re right, nobody wants to read this. He isn’t getting back with Dita. He’s married to Lindsay, and Dita would never support his cheating & pedophile lifestyle like Lindsay.
> What I also find interesting, if this so overwhelmingly happy relationship has lasted for 10 years, as she always wants to make believe on IG, then why has he kept dating various other women?
Because she lets him be with other woman, and apparently they have some disgusting open relationship.
If that anon in the other thread was really an “ex”, she said him and Lindsay play some sick game with other girls together.
From observation… before I even heard that, I was even thinking it was something like that myself.
That’s all Dita has is her “beauty” & “business” —superficial shit. Her personality is probably dull and she doesn’t have any depth to her.
Just shut the fuck up, Dawn. You have no proof and only show your pathological hatred for Manson. You have reached the lower limit of ridiculousness, you can only lash out in despair when you read other opinions.
I am not Dawn lol. I would have never thought I can be mistaken for a native speaker but ok, there you go.
Tell me where I am wrong in my post.
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Dita's done very well for herself and she deserves better than that creep. He didn't abuse her because she wouldn't bend for him. I wonder what made her even start talking to him again. Looks like he's reached out to all of his exes in the hope of making character witnesses out of them when the time comes.
Just look at that fucking smile. Says everything.
I'm OP: >>1116459
All I meant was that Dita has a shitty personality too (per @mansonisabusive's messages with Amie Harwick—they're in one of the other threads if you haven't seen them). She's obviously done well for herself and she's an amazing businesswoman, but she's definitely not this great person everyone seems to think she is.
That's why she became friends with him again. For media attention.
And that's also why she won't say anything negative about him now.
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Damn he's probably got cirrhosis or wtf with him
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Lmao more like dementia?
Ngl I would be drunk 24/7 too. Just look at them.
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> Don't ever do drugs.
I love the way she taunts them in her captions lmao.
I'll just hope it's not schizophrenic we.>>1117170
Whoever advised him wear this T-shirt must be fired lmao.
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Honestly, this is the funniest shit ever. Lindsay is 100% Kathy Bates. I stg he’s currently strapped down to an at-home hospital bed, under heavy sedation, so she can wheel him out for a photo op later. I’m living for this.
Ok wow so all the people on yt were wrong, he doesn't even mention Evan.
Because "art imitates life" applies here in that she has been accused of crying wolf. This role, if I had done it would - at the very least- make me cringe, looking back.
Does that make sense to you?>>1117452
I think I got it
I don't think any of her jobs make her cringe. They were just jobs.
Her relationship with Manson is probably the only thing she regrets.
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he's seriously using his mugshot to promote merch
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I think a lot of his teen fans are still holding out that they can unearth this version of him from the early 90s, buried under all the fat or something lol. He used to be decent looking in trailer park, Lana del Ray kind of way
Teen girls are dumb.They are just discovering their sexuality and fall in love with anime, singers and fictional characters all the time. I think they fall for his angsty lyrics and voice (and he does have a nice voice) and then try to overlook the 7 chins and abuse allegations because they're stupid children.
We should really warn off kids when we see this shit, no one deserves to get raped and peed on because their frontal lobes aren't developed yet.>>1117657
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how vain does someone have to be to have 2 separate ppl draw them
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She's still interacting with hate accounts. There's no way she doesn't know about what they do, especially since she follows the account that they messaged + she still follows @oatmealosbourne.
I don’t what you mean. I’ve only read what she posted in the threads. She didn’t start posting until I think July, in the third thread, and said she only found out about the allegations sometime at the beginning of the year.
She does have a case if he legit tried to make allegations that weren’t true. That’s real serious shit.
I really don’t know. She did post some search warrant, but it’s possible she could’ve got it off Google.
She really is insane if she went to such lengths, & saying Manson made allegations on her if he didn’t.
The only thing that has me question that maybe he did, is that she posts about it on her real account.
Just because she posted about it on IG doesn't mean that it's real. Maybe she actually does think he made false allegations against her, but the stuff she's posted about it makes no sense and she's always changing her story. First, she said he stole one of her captions, then she accused him of using fake accounts to solicit minors, and now she thinks he's making false allegations against her. And she just expects everyone to believe her without posting any real proof. All she's doing is discrediting real victims
Yeah… that’s true irony right there. A criminal going to the cops accusing someone else of being a criminal. Especially with abuse accusations out there in the media about him. If he did though…. that was a stupid stupid move.
> Just because she posted about it on IG doesn't mean that it's real.
No- but doesn’t seem logical someone doing that, unless they really are nutso.
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from a post on her old account, @lindsay.usich.
So, he married a “fan?” Then it’s definitely true that he finds and meets women on social media.
Looks as though he found the “one” who is as much of a low-life loser as him.
I don’t remember where I read this -it might’ve been posted somewhere in these threads, but there was an article where he was talking about a woman he met from MySpace and said she was a psychopath and that he shouldn’t have used his real name. That had to have been Lindsay he was referring to.
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Okay this is what I can remember but here goes:
I agree she was pretty and had interesting taste in movie and literature compared to most SG models but her personality and own output was incredbily cringey and that was my point of reference for this. Had she been doing was she was doing now she would a top cow on here. At some point she was taking drugs that made her completely nuts and paranoid, she started thinking everyone from lady gaga to Mosh to random egirls on tumblr, alt models that tried to work with photographers she had worked with were ripping off her unique, never before seen style. It was during that period that Manson contacted her. He appeared in her top8 and I even vaguely remember him leaving comments under her photos. Then he disappeared and she wrote a long blog about how he contacted her on myspace, saying everyone in LA was sending him her photos and tell him to contact her (under the impression to use her as model for a video or muse or something). He took her out to dinner and they hung out when he was in europe, she claims he told her he just got divorced and was "auditioning" another girl to be his girlfriend (ERW) but he preferred her and would pay her to move to LA but she turned him down because she had some skinhead boyfriend she didn't want to leave for him. I remember it ended with a rant on ERW calling her a "mongloid retard" and I think saying something nasty about stoya too before accusing Manson of ripping off her (NRB) in something, some shitty myspace photo cover or something. That's all I remember. She was active for maybe a year tops after that before wisely leaving the internet forever.
As much as I dearly wished I could find her old blog post on waybackmachine and bring a milkmas miracle, I couldn't find it, here are some fragments of her profile and her in manson's Top8 on myspace. She reminds me of a less stupid Lindsay with ERW's face : rich girl NEET doing drugs and "alt" art, no IRL friends, milky/edgy af, contacted on myspace to maybe do a creative collab, typical Manson chick. Wild this happened in 2009 lol.
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Her in Manson's top8 circa 2009
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Manson in her top8 vs the dude she actually wanted to date (top right)
Thank you so much anon. I have never read anything close to your post before. It's probably not so milky rn but the potential is huge.
That girl was lucky to escape from him.
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>>1118947>was "auditioning" another girl to be his girlfriend
I remember reading he “auditioned” women on an old gossip site, this was around the Stoya/Nana time. https://www.voy.com/85692/6/7579.html
She actually moved to Amsterdam for the top left dude. That's when I noticed how incoherent and paranoid her postings had become.
I like to think she would have been a little too genuinely nuts at the time for MM's Floridian carcass if they actually hooked up.
Sorry I am legit dyslexic. Yes you are correct. He still runs his art website at drtenge.com, he seems like a solid dude. >>1119008
She escaped the internet and purged everything years ago but I still have many memories I can post, IDK if it's appropraite for this thread tho.
A lot of it is lost to time, I think she deleted most everything when she went "normie."
She still gets brought up here on lolcow infrequently and anons will jump in with memories and fragments still available on google image.
tl;dr she was a popular Suicide Girl but her photosets tended to keep to a gross sexually assaulted minor theme. Someone noticed she had slipped an SS pin (people claimed it was a genuine article, not a replica idk) on a hat into one of the sets, Suicide Girls denounced her and she became infamous for a while.
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samefag but this is right up front on google images as I type. People took some striking pictures of her outside of the Suicide Girls bullshit, but a lot of it was just needlessly provocative.
Probably what MM saw in her.
Lmao anon your image title, I'm dying
from the waybackarchive of her myspace re: the infamous rape set that got her banned:
"Plus, I was wearing an SS pin. Well, they lurked in all my possible net versions to get to understand my connections with the NeoNazi movement.
No matter if I tried to explain the meaning I give to the nazism, the allegoric references I put in it, the fact it symbolizes The Beast Of Prey to myself, where the Prey incredibly supports the Beast (and this might make us think about our own strange nature as humans…)
No matter, they just screamed "Yuck yuck a nazi girl!"
My set stayed up for no more than 24 hours and then, as many other SGs went like "ohhh my goood I feel so hurted by this set, I have been raped and this set is hurting my sensibility" and so on (fundamentally they played the role of the offended ones as they became a herd/a flock of sheeps, and many of them just started whining close to the sheep who had its reasons (?) to whine because of her past experiences) wanted me to leave the site as nobody fucking cares about most of them there… "a popular girl less").
Enjoy censorship once more .
I'm not angry - I know I will ever have to fight censorhip if I want to express myself in my life. I've learned the lesson, a lesson I actually knew I would learn on my skin as even Christ did, knowing it all from the beginning but not really expecting it till the very end. I expected it since last early spring. And I've always been coherent. Go read at least the first 2 parts of this interview. It's in italian ok, but wordreference.com will give a great help to all of you who want to get it.
I won't give up."
This is gonna be my last post on her tho unless other anon ask, because I don't want a ban for derailing lol
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kek at how "classy" she is lmao
Why would you expect class? She’s the usual disgusting and trashy type of classless whore that he’s with.
Rose and Evan were probably the only women he’s ever been with that weren’t.
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Look at how ugly the both of them are. Fucking gag
! Two sick piece of shit whores that look like they got herpes & HIV.
This was her pre-plastic surgery. Her ugly ass has had A LOT of work done.
Also, I don’t know about you, but when someone is inwardly ugly, they appear physically ugly to me as well.
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She’s for sure ugly. She looks like a Sandra Bernhard look alike.
If Manson is so obsessed with appearance, you would think he would do something with his nasty lookin’ ass. His hair looks fuckin’ stupid.
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I think it's just that (1) you don't get to see many candid photos of her (2) she used to be average but that cheap Dita style made everything about her worse.
I made two collages. The first is 2011-2016, you see in the pic with 2011 she looks exactly like her sister. You can tell they are twins without a doubt. It's true she was never beautiful but she was kind of okay.
Now she's botched and looks like she's pushing her late forties. And the contrast between candid and Instagram is insane.
Another big miss of her is that she never worked out her body. She was a jelly even in her twenties which is yikes.
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Someone attempted to hack LKB's Facebook on Dec. 24. I'd love to remind that all shading Manson messages she wrote via her FB, and let's not forget she reposted Edwin's Generation's story about Manson.
Edwin's Twitter got hacked today.
A coincidence or consequences?
I forgot about the timeline.
It's her candid and Instagram 2018-2020.
do you get it you are on lolcow?
tell me you think he wore that t-shirt because he loves her so much >>1117170
so I could laugh harder
Yeah I do get it. Do you? Where’s proof? Show caps of these alleged “allegations” Lindsay made and that’s why he married her. Because that’s the dumbest fucking shit I have ever heard why someone would literally marry a person. If that was the case he would’ve married her years ago.
No, Manson doesn’t love her. He doesn’t love anyone. He’s incapable of it, because he’s a sick narcissistic fuck.
who said >“allegations” Lindsay made?
you read what you want to read, calm down.
Damn! This is definitely no coincidence! I bet anything Manson got him hacked. They’re also trying to flag Edwin’s video.
This hacking is probably also a method Manson uses to get all these fake accounts.
omg my bad. should have sobered up before posting.>>1119549
it's a coincidence at this point. I posted bc I thought the timing is funny.
She definitely never worked out.
Every feature of her body looks saggy and untrained with a bloated belly.
She posted a photo of herself at like 7 in a ballet tutu once. The ballet meme was big in the 90s, I remember me and all my friends did childrens ballet as well, but no one was good enough to even seriously consider doing it past 10-11 and I would never say I was a ballerina.
I think it's just part of her Dita skinwalking; she actually did study ballet professionally, but also weird gothy hipster chicks have a ballet fetish. I have never understood it but I've noticed a pattern over the years.
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I totally disagree. Edwin also put in his story that this Red Russian Hurricane account sent him a DM. Then a few hours later his account is getting hacked. No I don’t think that is any coincidence.
That account also made a post saying Edwin is committing a crime. What a fucking idiot. These people don’t understand freedom of speech.
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The guy that hacked Edwin - I’m starting to think definitely has something to do with Manson.
I’m seeing tweets of people saying that guy is racist and he apparently he was saying the “n” word, and also Edwin’s account is being retweeted by gay porn.
Ok. There is no coincidence going on here:
1) Manson is a racist
2) Dawn has talked about him being under a gay porn account(s) and a racist porn account.
These porn accounts also tweet about incest with other relatives, like sons and fathers. I seriously wanna a puke. Manson is on a whole other fucked up level of fucked up. Did he want have sex with his own father?
If he does have a porn account, I would say it’s no big deal, but this is just really really sick stuff!!! >>1120009
This must be the allegations Dawn keeps talking about that Manson made on her.
Not true unfortunately.
People look for porn that equals their sexual preferences. Porn doesn't make criminals, the criminal potential is already there.
No, not to people who watch it moderately, but when someone developes an unhealthy addiction to porn it’s a known fact that it re-wires the brain just like drugs.
It seems Manson’s addiction first began by his warped grandfather, and then Manson became just like him.
> And there aren't any laws on “obscene” porn in the United States
Yes, actually there is. It violates the federal obscenity laws. Why the government isn’t enforcing it, I do not know.
Also on that note:
Manson, or any of these other idiots don’t have any right saying people like Edwin are committing “crimes”. >>1120009
He’s protected by the first amendment, even if people do say derogatory or hateful things.
What the first amendment doesn’t protect is if people are threatening violence and making death threats.
I agree 100%. Those morons on those accounts that are making those accusations literally have a below average IQ.
But let Manson falsely accuse and go after someone for slander and he’ll see what’ll happen.
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@oatmealosbourne is still hung up on the allegations against them That's one of their other accounts. It's funnier than it should be that they're so obsessed over 2 washed-up junkies that aren't even aware of their existence.
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They almost remind me of the candy bracelets they sell at gas stations. It doesn't seem like either of them are really invested in their business, honestly. If they were, they wouldn't have tried to sell whatever this is.
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A list of all of oatmeal's accounts that I could find. There are probably many more.
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He looks drugged-up as usual.
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Completely off topic, but a while ago someone made a post about a new private account that popped up on IG around a week ago (@whoresarealwayssomethingtofear) because whoever runs that account is obviously somehow connected to the Manson drama. Anyway, they posted this old photo of Lindsay earlier and it seems to be a private file. I went through Lindsay's old LiveJournal, her Tumblr, fans' posts, and all of the IG accounts she abandoned years ago and I can't find it anywhere else. Also, there was a comment underneath one of their earlier posts, accusing them of being Lindsay (by one of Madelyn's alleged accounts, but I think she might be over Manson or she's at least pretending to be because there was no, “Happy birthday, my monster,” post this year). I'm only mentioning it because I thought the account might actually belong to Manson/Lindsay or someone affiliated with them.
Is she sure that movie is a good reference?
Manson is so fucked up. He was borderline okay just a few years ago.>>1123773
Isn't it Ashley? Lindsay has tattoos on her arms.>>1123802
Idk for real but I bet they were threatened. Probably by fans aka Lindsay asked fans.>>1123695
I remember seeing a screencap from her story being passed around by fan accounts where she said both Norm and Manson tattooed her fingers.>>1123802
It's been forever since I've seen a fan account make a hate post about Lindsay. I don't ever remember seeing @marilynmansonnews harass her or anything though. There were the sort of passive aggressive posts they made about her collaboration with that perfume brand, but nothing extensive. She follows them now and likes almost all of their posts, so I don't think anything's going on between them now. But it definitely wouldn't be out of the ordinary for her to tell them to stop or to get fans to message them.
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For those wondering who the mysterious @lilacs20 is, it’s Courtney. Remember how this account had no pp? It does now. It seems as though Manson outed her accidentally this morning. She wished him a happy birthday from the account, and he shared it. Later deleted and replaced with this one from the official Courtney Love account. I didn’t cap it this morning cause I was sure one you anons would have been hot on it, but no.
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Here’s her private.
Her fingers were done by Normloveletters(?), who passed away a couple of years ago.
I don't think it's Lindsay, the haircut is something Ashley would have.>>1123902
That's really interesting, thank you!
Whoever runs that account is lurking here. So…
… c'mon, dude, join us and share your milk kek.
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Here ya go, anon. >>1123880
I noticed MIB follows that account too.
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Here are pictures from 2005 when they "modeled" for American Apparel. There's her ugly flower tattoo and the weird one on her chest.
Just believe me when I say stuff. I'm usually right.
She's been outing herself for days n weeks now. Responding to comments with her private account etc. Don't think it was ever meant to be a secret.
Just shocking how she keeps defending M under her birthday post with her private account.
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Exactly anon. IIRC she ditched the tour for that very reason.
All these people are dumpster fires.
Agree, I don’t understand how Manson “rescued her from addiction” when he himself is a junkie. Last year Manson said in an interview they were “tentatively friends” and said this: “We've always been weird with each other, because she's slept with pretty much every one of my friends, supposedly. Not me, though.'
Adding passive aggressively: 'She, one time, told me she was mad at me because I didn't want to f— her and I was smarter than her. I said, "Well, you kind of proved your own point right there on that one." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7857631/Marilyn-Manson-says-tentatively-friends-rocker-Courtney-Love-following-feud.html
Tinfoil but it’s like Manson asked her to say something nice about him or something.
It’s good for business if Courtney sticks up for Manson.
Manson and Courtney are represented by the same booking company (bookingentertainment.com)
and probably have other business ties that someone smarter than me can figure out.
That’s a given, Courtney has a lot of skeletons. Even if
her defense is genuine, she’s never slept with him, never been in a relationship with him, and is not privy to what goes on behind closed doors. Narcissists are notorious for being charming to everyone but their victims
, Evan even stated that in her testimony.
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I got it.
His housemate is Rudy Coby. He supported Evan, right?
I saw that account. It’s private. “whoresaresomethingtofear”- that name tho is hilarious, and that person also puts in their bio as “Madelyn” for their name, lmao.
They also follow Miss Danger. So weird. I think they might be associated with Manson too.>>1123880
That hair in this pic kinda looks like the hair of who was posting fake pics of some chick on that palliatian.elixir account.
I don’t know for sure what’s going on, but it looks like this woman was/is helping Manson do sketchy shit.
I thought maybe that account is Madelyn. It’s most likely not, but she does have other fake accounts. Then lies about it. Cats and devils is 100% her which she used to spread hate about Lindsay, and also Mansonisinnocent to spread hate on Evan. Which bitch, don’t lie about it and be a hypocrite.
>I think she might be over Manson or she's at least pretending to be
Omg I would hope so! Seriously, how fucking dumb is she?! Regardless of whatever the situation is between Lindsay & Manson… it’s like hoe he’s still fucking Lindsay! And IS married!
> I noticed MIB follows that account too
Oh wow… they’re definitely mixed up with the Manson drama. >>1123958
THIS! It’s also fucking lame. What does that bitch think? Real life is some movie? Might seem cute now, but wait till one of them actually goes to prison. Then see how cute she thinks it is.
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Looks like a shady place.
So even Manson’s friends use fake accounts too. Interesting. >>1124201
And anons here trying to say Manson doesn’t have one. Yeah, okay….
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There's this other photography account, @bornfromtheflowers (reminiscent of Lindsay's old Tumblr/LiveJournal username, @bornfromthedirt). They have the same link in their bio, plus they posted the same watercolor painting of Lindsay. But the accounts are complete parallels. They defend Manson and the other account, @whoresarealwayssomethingtofear, just seems like a parody account.
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Yes, it seems Manson has quite a few woman that “help” him. >>1123880
There’s a woman by the name of Michelle that does something for him. She works for Oprah.
Manson was saying a bunch of weird shit about Oprah in this DM, and talking about how he knows her. Which now makes sense why he brought her up in those messages on the @palliatian.elixir account, and has deleted most of the conversation, except for this.
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He also has his homeboy Shane helping him, and now trying to cover for him and think he could pull one over. How fucking stupid does Manson think people are?
Manson never said that he knew Oprah. The fan that owns that account said there was someone in the background of the picture he posted that looked like Oprah. And that's not how he types and he wouldn't have a reason to disguise his writing style because no one would suspect it was him.If
you did know Manson on some scale, why did you keep talking to him after he did whatever you're accusing him of? You could've just blocked his number and made your accounts private.
Oh, you mean the “fake” fan account. Since he deleted most of those messages, I don’t remember, but I’m pretty sure when he was typing in third person that he said, “Manson knows Oprah.” And also saying a bunch of other shit like “Manson fucked Oprah”.
Manson seems to have 3 typing styles: incoherent, imbecile, and articulate.
As far as I knew at the time, I didn’t talk to him., and I didn’t know that palliatian account was associated with him.
When I was contacted via text that was a year later out of the blue and I wanted to know why he made those BS allegations.
Manson recently commented one of his posts on ig, old one, and Rudy was more than friendly with him. His support of Evan is questionable now, imo.
Unfortunately, I can't post caps rn.
I see the comment now, it seems more like Manson sucked up to him and he responded “thanks brother.”https://www.instagram.com/p/3rWM-sKW5t/?igshid=w90l8rkyfhd2
I know Manson started following him after he retweeted Evan’s testimony. >>1050262
Why would he support Evan for years and suddenly change his tune? That doesn’t make sense. Manson probably knows he’s fucked if Rudy made a statement against him.
Yeah that one.
Sorry I couldn't post caps and you had to search for it.
The timings are as you said, maybe I am bad at men's language but isn't "brother" too much to call someone who you believe abused your friend or someone you support?
And yeah, it's obvious Manson has been searching for allies and contacting people who witnessed his abusive
behavior and could say a bad word about him. It's like he's checking "r u on my side?".
Pathetic. I wonder what people who know him irl think about it.
“Brother” can be slang like “thanks, man.”
I guess he could have ignored the comment but what else do you say in that situation.
Thanks for clarification.
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That's what I meant.
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Lindsay liked one of his posts too. They're networking. But I don't understand why he thinks it's important to have Rudy on his side. He's relatively unknown with a small following. Nothing he said about M would get much media attention unless he had hard evidence against him.
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Interesting, he doesn’t come up in the likes for me. Can another anon check, please? https://www.instagram.com/p/CJqnIoeJ9qZ/?igshid=1gk1tx7h1m2ma>>1125726
Rudy was his housemate when he dated Evan. If he firsthand witnessed the abuse and made a statement that would not be good for Manson. His IG following is irrelevant, a statement would get attention.
It's not showing for me either. He must've unliked it.
I wasn't talking about his Instagram following. I meant fan-wise. He's hardly a well-known celebrity. Most people wouldn't believe him if he made a statement without any proof to support his claims, even if they were roommates. And Manson fans are notorious for harassing people that accuse him of anything. He has no good reason to bring up the allegations against him.
Sorry for necro respond, I am catching up with the thread.
That account is hilarious, I mean red russian hurricane. I love that #russiaformarilynmanson when she and her autism-mates nearly got banned for shitposting (aka agitation texts and pro-manson propaganda) in the biggest Russian community, now they get bullied every time they post, it is both sad and hopeful to say that a big number of people in the ru community agree it's highly likely that ERW talks about Manson, the best part is that even a few adms think it is him and do not defend him. The translator of one of the communities is actually pro-Evan, and I am gonna assume that some screen caps which mansonisabusive has that are in Russian she got from that translator, I don't know for real but I believe it's close to the truth. The girl documented a lot of the drama with Gabriella & Lindsay & Clare & Titti & Courtlyn Cannon, now many of her posts are gone, I think they deleted them when she became an adm.
I talked to red russian hurricane's brother from two fakes (don't ask me anything about it lol) and I can say that their idea of what's happening has changed twice, from everybody is lying, his exes are jealous cause he got married to Lindsay, they are so cute together uwu
to manson is in trouble, they all are trying to get attention and help their careers by ruining his career, and Lindsay is a bad person too, a manipulator, "look! she is copying Dita!", etc, etc.
What's important is that it is 100% they get everything they know or claim to know from Leslee Lane who's been brought up already. She's like the headquarters who talks to Lindsay and gets orders from her, as far as I understood Manson is never literally involved, he doesn't talk to fans, Lindsay is somewhat a manager of hate accounts, she feeds them information and tells them what to do and what not to do. I can't help laughing because they really dislike Lindsay but keep licking her ass, thinking they can do something good for Manson.
I am sorry I cannot post any caps, first of all they are in Russian anyway, and second, I don't want my fakes to be in the spotlight, if they read the thread (and I think they do). I am sure I am one of the many people who messaged them so I feel safe posting what's above.
Now I have only one question: did anybody go to check Leslee's discord? It could be tasty.
That must have been a quick like and unlike, I follow Rudy and Rob Zombie and never saw it.
>Most people wouldn't believe him if he made a statement without any proof to support his claims, even if they were roommates.
That’s a lot of assumptions, we don’t know if he has proof. Since they lived together it wouldn’t be far fetched if he did.
Did they send any caps from their conversations with Lindsay?
If they read the thread, it's probably not a good idea for anyone to join Leslee's server unless they used a fake or posed as a fan.
For some reason it won’t always show up when you type the name if you want to check names on a post or following. I followed that Rudy guy and it still shows up that he liked this post. >>1125599
Just because he retweeted Evan’s tweet doesn’t necessarily mean he is pinpointing it to Manson, unless he has specifically said. But you do have to be a complete idiot not to know she is talking about Manson in her testimony.
> manson is in trouble, >Lindsay is a bad person too, a manipulator, "look! she is copying Dita!", etc, etc.>>>1125818
You got two things right in this post: Manson is in trouble, and about Lindsay. I’m sure she’s involved with what he does and is just as sick and corrupt. I would highly recommend that people don’t associate that Leslee Lane person.
>>1125818> they all are trying to get attention and help their careers by ruining his career,
Manson ruined his own career by being a fraudulent disgusting piece of shit. It’s called karma catching up with him.
But rather than taking accountability and getting help for himself, he lies and tries to cover up.
His like doesn’t show up for me or my friends either but I guess IG can be wonky.
> Just because he retweeted Evan’s tweet doesn’t necessarily mean he is pinpointing it to Manson, unless he has specifically said. But you do have to be a complete idiot not to know she is talking about Manson in her testimony.
Not trying to be rude but your point is it can be anyone but obviously it’s Manson? Evan hasn’t named him (yet), I doubt he would pinpoint Manson unless she does first.
OP here >>1126460
I’m in complete agreement, obviously it’s not Jamie Bell. They share custody of her child, if he was that abusive
I really doubt Evan or the courts would let that happen. https://www.moms.com/how-evan-rachel-wood-jamie-bell-co-parenting-their-son/
I didn’t understand what >>1126302
means by not pinpointing Manson. Evan and Esme pretty much spelled it out it’s Manson.
Has he been searching for allies?
The people he follows on Instagram are defiantly different and more proper than before. It’s most celebrities now and peeps in the industry.
I noticed an Annie chick he followed which seems his type to a T but it was right after he followed JJ Abraham’s and it says she does public relations so in think it’s also business.
I fall off the wagon for a while and came back to posts he makes just for promo things and its all colored in a professional way.
He used to be more lax about this sorta stuff and I think now only the follows are allowed to comment???
If he wants to make it more obvious he’s guilty he’s doing it now by restricting comments lmfao but good thing he’s associating himself more with the industry people now bc it means that he’s staying away from poor young impressionable girls.
There’s good in everything I guess
I don’t look at his account. I get disgusted even looking at him.
> it means that he’s staying away from poor young impressionable girls.
No it doesn’t , that’s what his fake
accounts are for. >>1126545
Well I know that it does… and anyone with a brain does… It just seems really odd and doesn’t make sense why that Rudy guy would retweet Evan’s testimony, and is now liking that birthday post about Manson.
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If you're talking about this girl I followed her months ago but she blocked the whole lot of us a couple of weeks ago and I think she went through a purge so I cant see her posts anymore.I took screen shots of what he liked up to then. Its interested he never liked her Times Up stuff because she's involved with her studio with them.But it's also interesting he liked some of this stuff even though its a private profile for no one to see so its not publicity for him actually. If anyone else managed to stay a follower I'd really like to know if there's more. Im more curious about the private profiles he follows than the rumored accounts he made and I do think he makes them tbh but it's hard to prove for sure
>>1126643>It just seems really odd and doesn’t make sense why that Rudy guy would retweet Evan’s testimony, and is now liking that birthday post about Manson.
Maybe he’s friends with Zombie, maybe Manson threatened him, maybe he doesn’t want to get involved anymore. I don’t know. Rudy has liked and retweeted support for Evan since her testimony in 2018, fans have talked about it often. Liking a single Zombie post (and apparently unliking it) pertaining to Manson’s birthday doesn’t convince me he’s suddenly on Manson’s side. He’s shown more support for Evan. >>1126626
I agree his account has become pretty sterile in the last year but anons have posted caps of him trying to make friends with Rose McGowan before she told him to piss off. It’s obvious he’s trying to present a squeaky clean image now.
K but if I was a victim
and a friend supported me but then liked stuff posted by my abuser, I'd be pissed.
Do I misunderstand your question or you mean he has NOT been trying to be friendly with people who could potentially put him in trouble if they spoke out about their experience around him and his victims
It's not about the people he follows, it's about the comments he leaves.
He tried to be friendly with Rose like anons said. Then he went to John 5, in the comments again, now it's Rudy Coby.
Who knows whom else he messaged to recently or not recently, many of what he does remains unknown for anons.
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idk but I'll post all I got. She removed me just after christmas so I can't see anything else but I wonder if anyone else can. So here goes all I got.
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And the very last he didn't like. So the posts I noticed he never liked are the ones about MeToo, Times Up and posts that support him and his career. The album one was even liked by the official bowie account but not Marilyn. I kinda felt bad.
Right? I feel bad. I’m curious but I feel bad coz her profile is privaté.
Appreciate it though anon only cause it gives some insight to his non public friends and interests. I’m trying to be real and even though I want justice to be served for breakfast for him I still like to see the behind the scenes. Didn’t expect him to like some of those but I guess you do that with friends but it’s rude he didn’t like the one about him cause it’s unrespectful. Did she ever post about him befor or after?
Evan was Jewish too right? I dont think hes antisemitic necessarily ? She worked on Lovecraft Country and they used a lot of his music. Like four songs. So maybe thats the connection? >>1126719
Fair enough. I thought I'd provide some insight but sorry if this is nonsense. I was just curious if anyone else is able to see her posts still. I'm curious because it isn't the norm behavior for him right?
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He follows a ton of private accounts.
If someone is not attractive enough, he'll just drink more vodka or do more drugs, c'mon. One doesn't have to be attractive to go to bed with him.>>1126730
I am fine with these posts, I was worried I missed something about that girl.
We don't have anything else to discuss now, who knows, maybe digging his follows might be productive.
“ If someone is not attractive enough, he'll just drink more vodka or do more drugs, c'mon”
Like his wife? Lmao Lindsay is so basic. This MeToo chick should run far and away if he’s hunting. Hard to believe he’d have real female friends
I used to draw swastika just for fun, out of boredom in school. I am not a nazi or a fascist.
Manson is just a stereotypical southerner.
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lmao I kinda find her Evan-y tbh. But this is the only photo of her I saved because he liked and then unliked it so I sent it to a friend i know from reddit & discord. my friend was blocked too.
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Why she always kissing Ditas ass lmao wtf. I’m convince she wants to clam jam her as well.
I think he’s afraid of anything more complex and intelligent than a bimbo. Even if they’re intelligent they need to be subservient or he’s out. It’s curious someone associated w/ times up would be friends with him though.
And that narcissisti related Instagram is something Evan mentions a lot in her stories. Been following her for years
I’m guessing the private profiles are probably just more of his friends that have them, like Courtney Love -or maybe bimbos he met off of one of his fake accounts. >>1126990
Manson definitely must’ve messaged that guy blowing smoke up his ass, like he was trying to do with Rose.>>1126686
This explains why he’s into that sick incest shit. The real reason he writes sick songs like that is because he’s a pedophile himself and actually does want to promote child molestation, and his abominable behavior proves that. Of course he’s not going to publicly admit why he writes songs like that, so he tries to disguise it as something else.
>>1127448>This explains why he’s into that sick incest shit. The real reason he writes sick songs like that is because he’s a pedophile himself and actually does want to promote child molestation, and his abominable behavior proves that.
What proof do you have that he's a pedophile, besides his so-called fake accounts? You're making a ton of accusations with no evidence. There are enough allegations against him without you trying to make more. All you're doing is discrediting real victims
I’m not discrediting anybody. My situation has nothing to do with anyone else. Lets just leave out about the accounts.
The fact that he’s already dated Evan and that Lilith, does in fact make him a predator.
Other people have also said he was talking to Lilith when she was 17 and he was under an account pretending to be a teenage girl. If he was exchanging sexually explicit stuff with her that’s child pornography.
Someone recently posted a screenshot of an interview where Manson says he's not "for or against" child abuse.
Courtney Love said in the 90s that there were a lot of underage girls backstage.
He makes jokes about child pornography (a tinder for kids called "kinder", the interview on Fleischer's universe,..)
Then he was "friends" with a few children in 2012 or something. Reminded me of the Millie Bobbie Brown/Drake situation.
Unfortunately no. The guy doesn't speak English well, communication mostly goes through his sister as far as I understood. I did my best to talk him into giving me caps but meh, failed, he is a hard person to talk to, not pleasant, I'd say he has a suffocating personality, if there is a way to say it like that in eng.
>If they read the thread, it's probably not a good idea for anyone to join Leslee's server unless they used a fake or posed as a fan.
This. I am so pissed at that anon >>1098300
why didn't you drop caps? given that we know one of their retards came here and tried to lure anons in their dms, it seems like a bait now.
Don't tell me we are gonna have another round of manson is a pedo
followed by nope he is not
. Everyone is gonna keep their opinion anyway.
Honestly, I don't care much about that debate. He's disgusting either way.
But the way he always paints women with childlike features kinda says a lot.
I know that Evan was obsessed with Lolita way before she met Manson and that Manson basically stole that idea from her but the fact that he basically made a whole album about his fascination with that book makes one think..
I mean, he could've tried to groom those kids and failed. We'll never know.
>>1127518>But the way he always paints women with childlike features kinda says a lot
Wtf? Have you seen his paintings?
Lolita is too popular and famous to say Manson stole the idea from Evan.
I remember he said he was reading Lolita and Evan decided to wear her Lolita-like glasses for fun, that's how she ended up wearing those glasses in the video.
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Yeah, have you seen his paintings?? Lmao
Alice in Wonderland was written by Lewis Caroll. Someone who was obsessed with kids, especially Alice Liddell, who is speculated to be Caroll's inspiration for Alice in Wonderland. She was 10 years old.
Manson tried to make a movie about him called Phantasmagoria.
And? Where do you see childlike features?>>1127740
Unfortunately, Alice in Wonderland is a big thing in the literature world.
I posted to correct anon, cause to say> he basically made a whole album about his fascination with that book
means you know nothing about the album.
I don't want to continue this conversation tbh, I think I am derailing with this post already. Twisting facts just to push the pedo version is funny but doesn't contribute to the thread.
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Saging because it’s not actual milk but Manson just joined the “new MySpace”
To cast new victims
Ok.. why are you shitting on Rudy?
That video is from 2012 when they were still friends, Manson even tweeted about it. >>1037991
No caps because I don’t own the book but I’ve read from fans that Manson refers to a “shithead magician” in his Perou book. >>1037991
Apparently they had a falling out.
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I see Manson either unfollowed or was removed from Courtney’s private IG.
Lowkey hope she's done her research and finally found out what's up with Manson but it might as well be coverup action while still supporting him in private.
man and 'saved by Manson' story was such an unbelievable thing, in a "this Courtney Love?" sort of way. Courtney had a love/hate thing with this band, probably because of a mix of jealousy, relationship with Jeordie etc. but also disgust for their groupie lifestyle. I remember the story how she visited Manson's tour bus while some girl fans were there and told them to stop acting like that and better form their own band and in a few years they (MM band) will come to their tourbus begging for attention. I think it comes from Manson's book
Even without very solid proofs of him abusing Evan and Esme there's enough shady things he did/said to reconsider supporting him, people won't forget her that whiteknighting fast