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Previous Threads:
Marilyn Manson #1 : Fuck You Edition:
>>951424Marilyn Manson #2 : Chin of Sin Edition:
>>958209Marilyn Manson #3: In Search of Lost Tooth Edition:
>>969968Marilyn Manson #4: Fake PR Moves Edition:
>>982539Marilyn Manson #5:
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Old thread bio updated.
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By popular request, one unified thread to collect all milk on Marilyn Manson, 51-year-old drug addict, washed-up rocker, serial abuser, and rapist still trying to live vicariously through his glory days of the 90s when he was still young, and the drugs hadn't completely fried his brain.
> Accused by multiple ex-girlfriends including Evan Rachel Wood of rape, physical, sexual/emotional abuse, torture, forced confinement, and forced drug use.> Uses his barely legal fanbase to find young girls to groom, abuse, and take advantage of while dangling the same one liners of helping with their careers, putting them in a music video, or wanting a serious relationship.> Long term on-and-off relationship with Lindsay Usich, 35 year old NEET and Dita skinwalker who met him when she was 25 and has been implicated in verbal abuse and stalking herself, using his phone to send nasty message to other women he is dating or friends with, and being violent to fans.> Publicly talked about wanting to beat Evan Rachel Wood's skull in with a sledgehammer.> May or may not be using multiple sockpuppet emails to harass and stalk girls. Also alleged to have fake Model Mayhem account to find 18 year old girls to groom under the guise of photographing them.> May have had a sexual relationship with Lilith Levisis (also a cow; see thread) when she was underage, and tried to pit her against his other girlfriend at the time, Gabriella (@sourgirrrl).> Has an assistant (sockpuppet?) named Judd who has been implicated in verbal and emotional abuse and stalking towards young girls.> Got liposuction and tried to claim the bruises were from being beat up by Lindsay.> Torpedoed his marriage to Dita Von Teese over 10+ years ago and is still trying to remake every girl he dates into her image.No significant social media links, except for the official @marilynmanson.
Lindsay Usich's instagram is @lindsayusichofficial, comments disabled.
Discussed in First Thread:
> Receipts from multiple accounts discussing accusations of abuse/assault by Evan Rachel Wood, Esme Bianco, Clare Buley, Louise Keay Bell, and Ashley Morgan.> Harassment and death threats from Manson and his orbiters including ex-assistant Judd and anonymous “online troops.”> Horrorshow performances from Lindsay and her mother, Hope Harvey, harassing and talking shit about and to Manson fans.> A discussion about who is the controlling one in Manson and Lindsay's relationship.> @mansonisabusive kindly shared many receipts and info.> Paranoia and suspicion a-go-go about the general circus that surrounds El Chinno Manson and his Hollywood Hareem.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>951424Discussed in Second Thread:
> More receipts, maybe from trolls, maybe from genuine victims of abuse.> Lindsay concentrates all of her efforts into sharing updates from blissful quarantine cohabitation: plants, cats, and the usual boring posts, but most importantly – usually flashing what looks like an engagement ring.> Also shares a post from her cousin, who speaks of an encounter with Manson, when he referred to Lindsay as his “fiancé.”> Farmers work out this anecdote actually reveals that the engagement happened around six years ago.> It's decided that Madelyn is a deluded pick me, although entertaining. Farmers made a half-hearted attempt not to give her any more airtime as she self-posts and encourages orbiters to post.> A slew of other batshit fans come to light.> @mansonisabusive IG account visits and shares very interesting caps. We thank her.> Still waiting for the @666fearless full story.> Die Antwoord/Zheani/Manson connection is mentioned. Zheani has dirt on Manson, but no one knows what.> Discussion of Linday's catfish accounts including Ticklish Witch, Mina Lowry, and multiple others.> Talk of a super-fan turned super-hater, Tiziana Collins, aka Titti, and whether she faked her own death to return as her own mother.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the second thread for:>>958209Discussed in Third Thread:
> Receipts Lindsay fought with ex-side-chick, Viktoria (Twitter: @LaPetitMort_), and made her personal information public via her Twitter.> Receipts from Viktoria's twitter of Manson talking shit about John 5 (with whom he was about to tour).> Extensive evidence of Lindsay's full-of-cheap-bots followership, poor PR, and desperate attempts to build a fake last-minute career for her.> Manson and Lindsay's engagement announcement (with zero media coverage no matter how hard they tried).> Louise Keay Bell, one of the victims, came to the thread to milk her trauma and change the narrative of her experience with Manson when no one had been talking about her.> Receipts Manson sent legal threats to Louise Keay Bell and more of her and Jessicka Adams claiming Lindsay grooms underage girls for Manson.> A social statement of Louise Keay Bell saying Lindsay was part of Manson's sexual assaults.> Even though Louise Keay Bell was very vocal on her recent abuse case when nobody actually asked her, she was not brave enough to address anything from the above.> Proof of staff molesting female fans and abusing their position.> Michelle's (@666fearless) abuse case was fully revealed. Some anons questioned her credibility.> More evidence of his abusive, toxic, racist, misogynistic behavior from various interviews.> Proof that Manson forces his orbiters to sign NDAs.> Poor fake and full of shit PR moves.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>969968Discussed in Fourth Thread:
> A video of Manson admitting to fucking underage girls on stage.> Madelyn was accused by anons of sitting outside of Manson's house in her car on Lindsay's birthday. A photo Madelyn had taken of herself in her car and a few of Hope Harvey's tweets (quoted) from before she went privately were posted as proof.> Questioning why Hope went private in the first place. Deduced that Manson's lawyer probably reached out to her because she was sharing too much personal information.> Talk of an account (@_noname666_) that commented on one of Madelyn's posts, mocking her and her “relationship” with Manson.> Suspicion of whether he and Lindsay are already married or not after he posted a photo on his IG page, wearing what looked like a wedding band with the caption, “The Price of Darkness.”> Receipts of now deleted hate accounts and subscriptions that Louise Keay Bell posted. @666fearless was also being harassed. Both blamed Judd/Manson for it.> Screens from a website claiming Lindsay had a “baby bump.” Debunked as a hoax.> Dawn (@miss_dangerx, @guitargunn, @dawn.slays and possible other accounts) splurging and accusing Manson of being a pedophile. Also claims that he had a fake FB account (Mark Peak II) and harassed her, using her personal phone number. Was passed off as a troll.> @_noname666_ joined the thread for a bit, revealing that Manson's was (allegedly) formally diagnosed with both bipolar and narcissistic disorders. He was prescribed lithium that he sometimes forgets to take, which is supposed to be an excuse for his behavior. They also alluded to Manson being Lindsay's financial supporter and main source of income, even during periods where they weren't living together.> A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>982539Discussed in Fifth Thread:
> Manson finally released his single, “We Are Chaos.”> Speculations that Manson/Lindsay post in the threads after someone dropped a private picture of Lindsay. Anons couldn't find a source.> Screens from Reddit of people saying that Twiggy/Manson had sex with them while they were underage.> An anonymous ex-side-chick leaked some messages and shared some information on Manson. She claimed Lindsay harassed her during the entire period of their relationship via fake IG accounts. Anons finally got an answer to what “Baby Manson Time” is.> The full album was finally released. Lyrics are derivative of his older works and most of the songs read as digs against his accusers/Lindsay.> @mansonisabusive finally made their account public again.> Lindsay posted in her story that her mother, Hope Harvey, passed away. Cows made sure to milk her death as much as possible.> Their marriage was confirmed in an interview he did with Nicolas Cage.> Manson incriminates himself after hanging up on a journalist and refusing to answer any more questions after being asked about the Evan Rachel Wood situation. Rose McGowan posted screens of a message she sent Manson in her story on IG and tagged Evan, claiming she, “wouldn't be used as a shield,” not long after.> A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1012472 No. 1082079
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Thanks for the new thread anon!
Lindsay liked several photos from oatmealosbourne3, the same person who’s attacking and faking DM’s from Mansonisabusive. There’s no way Lindsay’s unaware of what they’re doing.
No. 1082131
>>1081947I think some details were left out. I also think this thread should have been named: Marilyn Manson Part 2 ‘The Prison’ Edition. Lol
I still can’t get over ‘Baby Time Manson’ shit. How pathetic & cringey.
From previous thread:
>It's interesting how recently he actually texted her, It is interesting , isn’t it? But I believe she said it was her that texted him.
I also find it interesting in the last thread about an anon saying something about things are going to blow up in the media about Manson…and then that metal magazine comes out. Is this an insider? I wonder if that’s someone in touch with the media and knows something.
No. 1082138
>>1082131>But I believe she said it was her that texted him.“Do not use the fact that you texted with me recently after many years as a way out.”
>>1081852It’s unclear who texted who first.
No. 1082145
>>1082138Okay I misread that. It seems he’s been texting
her recently, but she sent the text she put in her IG story to him just yesterday.
Yes, it’s definitely weird he contacted her & has been texting with her. Looks as though he is trying to use her as a shield. She’s smart picking up on that. I love that she told him.
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>>1082145When it looks like the fur is about to fly, what’s the first thing someone with a guilty conscience does? They try to protect themselves. Some people do it by hiding in plain sight, telling half truths and even talking about the subject themselves, as if to say “well I wouldn’t be part of the problem if I’m bringing it up now, would I?”
Cast your mind back to the Channel 4 interview he did at the end of 2017. Now watch it again and pay close attention to the part where he talks about the Me Too movement potentially encouraging people to trash the careers of others who don’t deserve it.
Some people might think he was talking about his special friend, Depp. I think we can safely assume he’s predicting the future, talking about himself, and this is the start of his self-protection campaign.
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>>1082131>>1082138Lol just look at the timings.
A cap from the second thread and a quote from
https://loudwire.com/marilyn-manson-refuses-comment-evan-rachael-wood/Manson, are you that dumb? You knew they were after you in April already and you thought it was fine to release the album with incriminating lyrics like in Perfume?
Don't do drugs or say goodbye to your cognitive skills and logic.
>>1082169this.
I am still struggling with the fact he created the Triptych.
No. 1082189
>>1082172Triptych was also a group effort. For example he took numerology/tarot from Pogo. But I get what you mean, lyrics and themes were so much different. Now he just repeats one line three times and calls it a verse. Also the way he used to talk.
Remember when he was all about Nietzsche and "I am my own god" thing… this seemed so cool at the time, it even helped some people. But maybe that actually made him even worse. Be your own god, sure, but Manson actually tried to be someone else's "cruel god" multiple times.
You know it's kind of sick he could actually get out of this if accusations didn't include rape. If it was only psychological bothering, hitting, threatening with a knife/his own suicide he could potentially by forgiven by a lot of people, especially if he apologized Evan & others, sincerely or not so. But raping/sexually using a sleeping girl, which basically equals unconscious girl… Idk what his old "fuck it past is past now is now" kind of tweet refers to but it's hard not to treat this as a reaction to Evan, or at least MeToo.
Is that the extent of his texting with Rose? Comment under her post on Insta? April 2020. Wow.
No. 1082192
>>1082172Yup, it’s so transparent why him and Lindsay were all up on Rose’s IG being kiss-ups. Two conniving snakes in the grass. Looks like it backfired and he can’t
use Rose now, and she would be in support of any
victims.
No. 1082209
>>1082131The media needs to write up a piece on “Baby Manson Time”. That make for a really good headline and article.
>I also think this thread should have been named: Marilyn Manson Part 2 ‘The Prison’ Edition. Maybe by the time there’s another thread… that’s where he’ll be, and that would be a fitting title.
No. 1082246
>>1082189>Triptych was also a group effort.I don't want to downplay anybody's contribution, I love Pogo's music, I also loved John 5 but none of those who left the band had a successful solo career. I don't want to say they couldn't get employed or anything like that but they could never climb higher. Manson used to have a talent to get the right people do the right job.
I see he's been into bots recently, cheap ones. What do they want to achieve? It's ridiculous and embarrassing. He should have got rid of every single one from his PR and management teams long ago. I am not rooting for him, just don't want to see this poor show.
No. 1082259
>>1082255ntayrt
it is originally from dms from Manson to a girl MIB kindly shared with us.
then his former lover explained what the f that is, see
>>1027734>Yeah lol it’s basically code for role playing. He obviously fetishizes younger women. From my experience it means he is daddy and you are his daughter. Just take a minute or however long you need to process that. No. 1082274
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>>1082259… thanks, I think
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>>1082246>I see he's been into bots recently, cheap ones.I didn’t even notice until you brought it up, I think you’re right. Low followers, same pictures on their accounts.
Lindsay, shopcete, now Manson.. it’s insulting they think people won’t notice.
No. 1082312
>>1082255personally i think he meant "i will act like a baby and you have to cuddle me and be sweet", not like an actual baby fetish on his part, just the way grown men take advantage of women who adore them. lindsay is probably too over his shit to baby him, lay there and pet his back, stroke his hair, all that shit.
but yes he does fetishize younger women, but this is not what "baby Manson time" meant, even though a former lover explained it as such
No. 1082437
>>1082312I agree with anon, it’s definitely not something sweet. He’s a sick fuck who’s into incest.
I think ‘Baby Manson Time’ is him role playing as an actual baby fetishizing his girlfriend to be his “mother”.
He probably goes around wearing a diaper and bib, going “goo-goo-ga-ga”.
No. 1082458
>>1082406he gets women to that point by lovebombing them. making them bond with him by being "sweet", petting etc is part of the narcissistic m.o. it's not like he asks a girl to come over for movies and then chases her with an axe…he builds up to that.
just speaking from personal experience and putting it out there to anyone experiencing similar
abusive tactics
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From today.
No. 1082570
>>1082437Nah he doesn't seem to be submissive, he probably is "daddy" and his girls are treated as "baby Manson"… baby daughter Manson (yikes). Ddlg became so normalized that incest stuff is interwined and completely acceptable… Someone introduce him to Yungelita, they're made for each other.
>>1082538They surely know what's going on with him and Metal Hammer.
It seems like there's no hope for Manson fans/ex-fans who wished it wasn't him. If he was innocent ERW would clarify it long ago. She interacted with Esme today, that's quite telling. Unless they interact a lot discussing trauma/are friends on regular basis, but I doubt that.
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Scott Putesky used to talk about the abuses he endured in the band.
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>>1082983Manson fucked over several ex band members. Scott Putesky, Brad Stewart, and Stephan Bier all sued him for being squeezed out of royalties.
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>>1082983>>1083014>>1083443Agree about Stephen Bier. It was already discussed a few threads back but Manson sued Bier’s ex girlfriend, Seraphim Ward, for supposedly claiming she was engaged to Manson. She countered that Manson stalked and harassed her for months.
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>>1083760Idk, Lindsay’s claimed sobriety before. There’s another cap of her denying she’s ever been to rehab that I can’t find atm.
No. 1083832
>>1083760
>Legendary frontman Marilyn Manson’s wifeoh my
>and talented photographerlol what?
She speaks about being sober now as if it is a great achievement for her.
No. 1083837
>>1083832Don’t forget
famous movie director Hahaha
https://metalheadzone.com/marilyn-manson-implies-hes-next-in-line-for-ozzy-osbournes-throneMetalhead Zone has such a boner for Lindsay, it’s ridiculous.
No. 1083852
>>1083760>>1083837So someone finally called her his wife since he didn't have a time to praise her publicly in these six months of marriage.
LOL, I posted the famous movie director article, glad it's mentioned again.
No. 1084340
>>1083888I’m convinced Lindsay’s a beard.
She returns to social media just months before they get married, buys herself 300k+ bots, drops subtle hints of marriage without an official announcement, supports hate accounts meant to intimidate MIB and his
victims, shows her wedding ring that’s a Dita copycat, all while pushing the ‘good guy/happy couple’ narrative when there’s plenty of evidence Manson treated her like shit. Mentally ill serial abusers don’t suddenly change, his abuse allegations will follow him forever. Lindsay is either very foolish or paid.
No. 1084483
>>1084469I might be in the minority here, but I don’t think Lindsay has any control on Manson or his account. He wants to promote the happily married image to counter the abuse allegations. If his new wife says he’s a good guy he can’t be capable of such atrocities, right? (eye roll) It’s PR.
Lindsay follows and likes @oatmealosbourne, an account that bullies and fakes evidence against
victims.
No. 1084535
>>1084521I'm sure hes on his insta lots too but there's no way Linds isnt all up in his business running his account too, probs checking all his dm's and posting that cringy stuff on his stories. I think it works against him because who's he trying to fool? He's marilyn fucking manson. Pretending hes all picture perfect now just makes him look worse and even guilty.
Idk about all of yous but I liked the apple interview he did a while back. He did seem more sincere and sober than usual. I'm fine with that but coloring his entire image beige like he is doing with all this sappy shit is such obvious clean up work by his people. Everyone he follows now is all clean industry people now and acting like hes above it all but then like he's sucking up to fan accounts and I cant even tell if their made by him, Linds or legit fan accoutns anymore.
I get what he or his people are trying to do but theyre laying it on a bit thick imho 😂
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Aww Lindsay. So the old slutty fuck has been somewhere the whole night and messaged you early morning? The day was shitty bc you tried to find out where was he and was asking him if he's looking for new troubles?
No. 1084693
>>1084483You got it in one. This is exactly what’s going on and has been since the first (UK) lockdown began. So what was that…April?
It’s a cover up operation.
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>>1084712From Lindsay’s IG.
>>1084658 No. 1084776
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>>1084767With Lindsay though? Same skyline. What’s the point of quarantining together outside their home? Either they both stayed overnight at a hotel (?) in LA or Lindsay’s alone and took the photo herself.
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>>1084776I think I know that hotel. It’s the London hotel in Hollywood. She said it was the anniversary of her mom dying right? Maybe she just needed to be in a different place than her house, understandable.
No. 1084805
>>1084797>She said it was the anniversary of her mom dying right? Maybe she just needed tocelebrate?
I am sorry for this.
No. 1084810
>>1084797I suppose if her house is
triggering. Just seems a bit odd when LA just ordered a stay at home when she appeared to be so careful of social distancing in previous IG stories.
No. 1084816
>>1084810If anon
>>1084731 is right then the house in which they are living now is
triggering indeed. He fucked Gabriella, Clare, Lexus and who knows how many more women in this house.
Did her mother live with them? Why is the house
triggering if we think there is a connection to her mother's death?
I don't think it was a hard day for her, I think half of what she says in stories is made up just to portray Manson as supportive and caring partner whom he never was.
No. 1084848
>>1084819he wakes up before the crack of dawn. that anon is right…looks like they’re both just staying at the hotel together, and he woke up before her, and sent that text.
> I don't think it was a hard day for her, I think half of what she says in stories is made up just to portray Manson as supportive and caring partner whom he never was.This. You hit the nail on the head. She sounds so fucking fake. Their sick relationship is based on anything but “love”.
No. 1084886
>>1084871I suppose but it’s conjecture. I mean, we are to believe they stayed overnight at a hotel nearby defying a stay at home because her mother’s one month death anniversary, who Manson seemed to hate when alive, upset her enough to leave their house. Manson, a self-proclaimed homebody, texted her a sunrise photo in the same room while Lindsay slept away.
I guess anything’s possible, I wasn’t there.
No. 1084899
>>1084886That sounds so fucking ridiculous, though. He isn't that thoughful, no matter how hard she tries to portray him as being that way. She probably took the picture herself, like she's done before. And I doubt her mother's death was
that upsetting, especially to Manson.
No. 1084927
>>1084916Probably when everybody starts touring again, he will too.
We here just hope he is going to get cancelled and will never tour again you see.
No. 1084996
>>1084925>>1084927>>1084940>>1084960Covid was massively profitable for digital entertainment, it's a lot easier to keep everyone home and make them pay to stream their entertainment than it is to put on a live show people only have to pay to get into. I doubt live shows will be a thing again until next spring after all the profitable holidays are over and people
want to pay to go out and play again.
No. 1085004
>>1084930You should write "sage" in the email field every time when you don't post anything important (=milky) on the subject. Please, avoid using emojis. If you follow the rules, you won't get banned next time.
Welcome to the thread regardless.
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Laney Chantal gives her opinion.
I sense a lot of rumbling going on under the surface, because of this interview.
No. 1085347
>>1085335I wonder if Dita will change the side. That would be hilarious.
I am glad Laney finally spoke. But I don't like that she kept giving him new girls when she knew he was
abusive af.
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>>1085354Laney is being more vocal on her make-up account. She’s posted a series of stories.
Ending with “I stand with my friends”.
No. 1085364
>>1085354Corgan is a POS. It is so silly to make friends with him now.
>I don’t think she was ‘giving’ him new girls tbf.there was a detailed post by anon explaining why they didn't like Laney in one of the threads, and I agree with them. Ofc she was not literally giving them to him but she was introducing them to him and she
knew how that would end. Again I am just glad she spoke on the matter, but that's it for her from me.
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Cap repost from first thread.
>>1085347Laney introduced Lexus Amanda to Manson, I don’t believe (or we know of) any other women Laney introduced. In her defense she was married to Jeordie at the time and Lexus wanted to meet Manson. Could she have warned her, yes. But I imagine she didn’t want to make waves against her husband’s boss within that fucked up circle.
No. 1085528
>>1085502Gabriella?
They paid Metalhead Zone?
>Marilyn Manson’s Wife Pens A Romantic Letter To Show How Grateful She’s To Have Marilyn In Her Lifehttps://metalheadzone.com/marilyn-mansons-wife-pens-a-romantic-letter-to-show-how-grateful-shes-to-have-marilyn-in-her-life/amp/Manson, dear, it won't help you. It's fake and staged.
No. 1085590
>>1085528Was it established she introduced Gabriella?
Metalhead Zone is a c-level tabloid, they often post Lindsay’s stories.
No. 1086100
>>1085502Gabriella. She had been close friends with Laney long before she met Manson. Laney is the only link between them. Gabriella was never his fan and it is unlikely he found her on Model Mayhem or searching Instagram.
>>1085486
>Hindsight is a wonderful thing, anon.it is a good thing but it doesn't undo actions which were harmful to other people. The same applies to Ashley Walters tbh. They are two women I cannot bring myself to sympathize with.
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No. 1086213
>>1086036I noticed it’s the same journalist who keeps publishing Lindsay’s stories like it’s news. Metalhead Zone doesn’t report on Ashley’s stories who’s also married to a rockstar. My only conclusion is the journalist is a fanboy and sucking up to Manson.
>>1086154His girlfriend was in a major car accident and that’s all he has to say? Not thank goodness she survived but “I don’t like people who kill my cars.” His compassion is overwhelming.
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>>1084776>>1084797That’s the same hotel balcony. She’s so upset about her mother that she’s modeling for Maisonatia?
No. 1086501
>>1086154Interviews from 90's and 2000, anon. Especially Hollywood era. Video interview on youtube, articles. 2003 ones were entertaining too in the sense that he talked a lot about 20's and 30's art and cinema. But that's about it. His current interviews sound like an aged white fuckboy and you cannot seek any intelligence in them.
That comment on Esme's car crash is nauseating.
Sage for blogpost but I hate how he portrays himself as bad women's
victim in his songs. No matter what he's the one "hurt by love" and destroyed by woman (Threats of Romance, THEOL album). And now he's poor cause some reckless woman wrecked his toy, even managed to spoil Games of Thrones for him, poor Manson.
No. 1086534
>>1086360Like I said, they are sidling up to Corgan and Chloe, another branch of the happy families wholesome front. She’s supporting Mason Atia, they via Chloe are sharing stories from Cete. It’s an orchestrated puke fest. Seems right now people are gearing up and placing bets on which side to be on.
Tinfoil is that if this ever goes to go, ‘this’ being multiple girls alleging abuse, Manson’s defence will be that it was all consensual and role playing etc. He won’t deny the Esme stuff if it came to the crunch, and, as anon said the ‘flogging’ marks look just like shibari rope ties which countless goth ethots and boring bdsm fashion whores share relentlessly. It’s going to be hard to pin anything on him.
No. 1086644
>>1086534Why do you people keep beating a dead horse? It’s too late for Evan or Esme to take Manson to court. Unless something happens where a bunch of women start coming forward. The only other thing they really can do is out him in the media, or they can be used as witnesses to testify against Manson if something has come up about him.
And the defense regarding the Bdsm will be that maybe these women did consent, but he mis-used “Bdsm” to abuse them.
No. 1086760
>>1086644> Unless something happens where a bunch of women start coming forward.…multiple girls alleging abuse.
> but he mis-used “Bdsm” to abuse them.… It’s going to be hard to pin anything on him.
So I think we’re at an impasse.
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Because I keep seeing fan accounts claiming Evan supports Amber Heard to discredit her, that’s bullshit. In 2016 Evan defended AH’s bisexuality. That’s the only time Evan ever mentioned Heard.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/evan-rachel-wood-attacks-press-coverage-amber-heard-s-bisexuality-a7055051.html No. 1087712
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>>1086534>>1086932Pertaining to bdsm.
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Apparently, he was replaced on The Stand.
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No. 1089260
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I noticed Madelyn was called out. lol
>>1089119Evan tweeted that around the time she testified for the Phoenix Act. 2018, I believe.
>>1089161He lost a
lot of fans over this, the abuse allegations have become mainstream knowledge.
No. 1089321
>>1089260Hahahahaha. It’s funny these accounts are calling her out - but isn’t the whole “stalker” thing Manson’s spiel he lies about and tells to other girls? This is what he must be
feeding to Lindsay while he talks to this Madelyn behind her back.
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>>1089161I don't know what's going on but I don't think he was replaced due to the allegations, because he joined another TV series. But why did he release and shortly after removed from the internet the song he had covered for The Stand?
No. 1089356
>>1089330He’s in a show called
“Creep show” Hahahaha. No way. How fitting.
Seems suspicious that they would remove him from The Stand - a very famous movie, and then he deletes the song. Whatever he’s trying to hide by deleting it… it’s out there and people still know he did the song.
No. 1089430
>>1089356I dont really see it as suspicious. That song came out like last year and it had to be pulled I assume because of the Doors copyrights. That's what someone mentioned on reddit anyway. And the Stand is a tv show.
Im kinda mad he's in Creepshow though cause I love the original.
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>>1089259“you were warned” - MIB should report the threats.
>>1089312I think he has. He’ll always have a diehard core fanbase but I’m seeing more ‘cancel Manson’ posts on social media lately, especially tiktok and reddit.
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>>1090873What do you mean anon, her new follows look totally legit. Kek
Apparently she doesn’t care how it looks or what people think, it’s all about the number. If she truly had 435k followers her posts would average more then 15k likes.
Manson started with the bots too, idk whose bad idea this was.
No. 1092674
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Happy Thanksgiving
No. 1092819
>>1092674LMAOOO
Love it, anon.
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>>1095111
Illma Gore reposted Evan’s testimony several times on her Twitter and specifically called out Manson.
You’d have to be in denial or an idiot to think Evan and Esme aren’t talking about Manson, the problem lies with fans making excuses for him no matter what.
No. 1095898
>>1095828That could be his fans.
>>1095336This is hilarious. I think he told Lindsay to do so.
4:19 trashes his
victims on Instagram
4:20 complains about Madelyn talking trash to his fans
No. 1097000
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I know that many are going to get angry, but, I think we should be more impartial, and not just blame the men always, because the women are not totally saints:
Asia Argento, who began the #MeToo movement, was acussed ironically of sex abuse for a young actor, Jimmy Bennett,
some links:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-jimmy-bennett-argento-20180822-story.htmlhttps://pagesix.com/2018/08/19/asia-argento-accused-of-paying-hush-money-to-silence-sexual-assault-allegations/(offtopic) No. 1097001
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And Jessika Adamms has questionable behavior too, and a boy commented about some experiences with her:
No. 1097015
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>>1097000Asia Argento didn’t start the #metoo movement? I’ve never even heard of her tbh. Either way, you’re taking a few stories about women potentially being exceptions to the rule, that men comment like 98% of violent sex crimes, and pretending it evens out the scale. Women can be evil, doesn’t mean that men are responsible for way more shit in the world.
No. 1097018
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Evan is the same, she wasn`t a saint neither, experiences of some fans:
No. 1097088
>>1097018I think it was
toxic all the way around. No matter how young she was at the time, 18-year-olds know not to fuck married men. It seems like she's embarrassed about what happened between them and now she wants to play
victim. And that's not to down-play whatever happened to her, but she's no better than him if everything that's been written about her is true. The abuse wasn't as one-sided as she tried to make it sound.
Honestly, it doesn't sound like any of the women he's been with weren't shitty to at least some degree. Rose is pretending to be an abuse advocate, Dita's not as classy as she pretends to be (e.g. Amie Nicole Harwick's messages with @mansonisabusive). And what hasn't Lindsay done? It almost makes me feel bad for him, not to white-wash his image. If he would've gone to therapy and lived a normal life, maybe he wouldn't be where he is now.
No. 1097128
>>1097000>>1097001>>1097017>>1097018You're doing a real shit job of trying to discredit
victims by posting strawman arguments. Regardless of if they were
toxic, that in no way justifies the things they've described he's done to them. Fuck off.
No. 1097131
>>1097000Asia Argento is Manson's best friend. If you wanted to defend Manson with that silly post, you failed.
>>1097001We agreed she is a cow and unstable herself. It doesn't cancel everything she said about Manson though, especially given the fact that many of her words proved to be true by other people.
>>1097018He was whoring around and she was not supposed to be jealous? Dan Cleary literally said Manson broke Evan over 1 year. You could guess she could be unstable at some moments given how much pressure he put her under.
>>1097088> but she's no better than him if everything that's been written about her is true.what was written about her? wanna bring some caps? He raped and tortured several women, probably had sex with underage girls, drugged them, abused his fans, and you say she is no better than him? Your post here can't earn you +1 like from Lindsay or Manson, it is anonymous, little wk.
>>1097128thank you.
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>>1097018Would be great if you would share the link to that YouTube video.
Also, Jeordie White and Andy Gerold played guitar and bass during that tour. No Tim there.
Manson saying "I didn't even do anything." is the most ridiculous "evidence" I've ever read about. If you really believe that you are fucking dumb.
Evan herself said that because of the abuse she acted out a lot which would make her seem crazy to others.
Of course she's ashamed! That's why it took her years to talk about it.
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>>1097259I agree people should take responsibility but the problem is Manson never has. He hangs up on reporters asking abuse questions, talks trash about his
victims, continues to abuse people. Asking his
victims to forgive him because he was abused himself would be difficult if he refuses to help himself or change.
No. 1097852
>>1097128And, then, when she going to take responsability for herself and all her acts?, anything is blame of him?,
But if he does some, they say it´s only is blame of his, but if she does some, all is blame of others?
She was age of majority , she was 20 years old when lived with him, an adult, even 18 is age of majority, you already have adult responsibilities. I'm not say that him is a pigeon, but this girls enter in strange games too, many times too. They are age of majority,
When, then, the girls to take responsability of her acts too?
Evan had low self-esteem, before to meet to him, but Manson too, Manson HAS low self-esteem in his serious relationships too, in this case the imbalance is of both, they were both unstable, many people have low self-esteem, and is for this reason that in many occasions, all of us commit foolish acts, and they aren`t exception, these problems often come from childhood. He is insecure too, he seems to have a emotional dependency,
Even that silly threats of death, seems to be desperate attempts not to be abandoned, but not real. If that had been, simply he would have.
On the other hand, she say that the people insulted her, when was with him, and for that she felt bad too, but, how many times he had been insulted for many people?
How many times he had been threatened with death, true threats of death?.
Like all people, I think that they should check themselves internally. This is something difficult because these problems often come from childhood,
But it is possible, this isn´t the product only of a relationship. And for this, precisely one of the first steps is to take more responsibility for themselves.
Many of our decisions are also failures of us, and they are internal failures,
I think that he is afraid of being abandoned, this causes him to do silly things, he should to work his self-esteem too, and not having emotional dependence on anyone, and trusting more in himself in a relationship too,
I'm sorry to say it, but romantic ideas in the Shakespearean style or Bonnie and Clyde are silly, it is pure emotional dependence, and therefore catastrophe for a couple and breaks the stability of someone who precisely does not want to be abandoned. Sometimes we must even learn to be alone too, and not depend on another, love ourselves more to be better with ourselves and maintain better relationships, learn that breaking up with a partner is not a tragedy.
This is their inside job. They should take this as an apprenticeship
We are here to learn.
I'd like both of them to apologize, and try to improve within themselves
(newfag) No. 1097855
>>1097848Here:
>>>/snow/935041Please sage your post if you’re not posting a screenshot.
No. 1097868
>>1097858Type “sage” into the email field.
What about them? What does that have to do with Manson?
>>1097852You’re dismissing or not addressing that Manson has several other
victims. You’re asking us to sympathize with someone who has intentionally hurt many people.
No. 1097880
>>1097878They didn’t agree to be abused, his
victims have said he grooms them first. Being chased with an axe
>>1082406 and being emotionally destroyed is not sadomasochism gone wrong. Having spyware unknowingly downloaded on your phone and your life controlled is not “regret.”
No. 1098100
>>1097878Please just face the fact that Manson drugged and severely abused several women mentally and physically and shut up. What these women did while they were suffering doesn't matter.
Let's not forget that he locked them in rooms for hours, controlled their weight, publicly humiliated and cheated on them. Of course he's to blame.
No. 1098291
>>1097770I was probably one of the few ppl that did believe about his fake accounts when it was first brought up a couple of threads ago.
I think the only ones that are saying nasty things to and about
victims, and defending & lying for MM is: 666fearless, Lindsay, & Manson… or any other of his “people”.
No. 1098300
>>1098291@leslee_lane talks so much shit about his
victims on Discord as well. She's completely mental. Claims she had threesomes with Manson and Dita/Evan on Discord. Batshit.
https://discord.com/invite/9jnQqFX No. 1098365
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>>1098300Crazy. Lindsay follows two @leslee_lane accounts, are they friends? They also targeted Madelyn.
>>1089260 No. 1098527
>>1098497It’s certainly sketchy. Either Lindsay is behind that account or she’s friends with a mentally ill fan spreading outlandish rumors. Either way it’s clear Lindsay and Manson want to discredit his
victims anyway possible.
No. 1098685
She has a YouTube? Can you link it pls.
>>1098681>But after taking a closer look at her account, I think it's a different person.You might be right but what makes you think that? Her account seems pretty generic, just pics of Lindsay and Manson with basic hashtags.
No. 1098700
>>1098685Not OP, but her channel isn't hard to find. It's right here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTV-D65qnMc6lsB56BhHVLwAnd
every fan account is like that. They all post the same edited pictures of them together with some lovey-dovey quote from one of his songs. Very few fan accounts are actually interesting anymore. They all kiss her ass now.
No. 1098701
>>1098300Why don't you post caps?
It's unsafe for anybody from us to join their discord now when you announced it.
Fucking loads of newfags have found the thread again. Nothing new, only dumb people.
No. 1098756
>>1098751Yep. Bought a ton of albums, merch, went to one of his shows (which was laughably bad btw). I read his autobiography and teenage me was so taken with it. Weirdly enough the way he talks about women and groupies in that book disgusts me today.
He was king of the edgelords. We all grew up, he deteriorated
No. 1098849
>>1098835you literally said the time when you spoke with her and the topic, she'll find who you are if she finds the threads anyways.
>>1098845sad.
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>>1098835Nevermind. If she found the thread, I'd be doxxed anyway. I unsent my messages and blocked her too a little bit after I realized she'd blocked me.
No. 1098977
>>1098908this
>>1098874and I don't think they meant fearless. She didn't delete her account, it is still up. In addition to that, I don't think Lindsay or his fans wanted to remove her account, I am very confident she works for MM.
No. 1098996
>>1098874“He’s all about personal responsibility.” Lmao By hanging up on reporters?
The mental gymnastics used by his fans to defend him would be comical if it wasn’t sad. Suure, the allegations are all Mansonisabusive’s fault.. never mind that she uses public information.
Maybe they mean LKB?? She didn’t delete her account but she went private.
No. 1099120
>>1099081Yes, and now she’s saying Judd “stole” her information from Manson which implies Manson did nothing wrong here. She previously posted a ton of screenshots and accused Manson of being a narcissistic creep. Why is she protecting him now?
Additionally, I used to follow her when she posted the Manson screens. Never talked to her. She removed almost all of her followers and blocked them, me included, when she deleted the screens and went private.
No. 1099270
>>1099120Stole from Manson? Lol
What's about that crazy girl who spammed her email? What was her name? Darcey?
Yeah, Manson did nothing wrong. 100%.
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>>1098671You’re right, it’s not….
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The cow is seeking help again.
Look who is trying to make it up with John 5.
Rose turned her back on him, I don't think John will do anything better than just a like or a thank you.
No. 1100056
>>1099270Exactly, the Darcy email:
>>958672>>958675In those caps she said Manson passed her email around and let Judd and Lindsay use his phone to harass her. How would she even know Judd stole her info unless Manson or Judd told her that and why would she believe it after everything they put her through.
>>1100020I honestly can’t tell if that’s a compliment or not.
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>>1099270>>1100056Do you mean Marcy?
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>>1100345Yes, it’s Marcy. Sorry.
I’m genuinely sorry fearless is being stalked/harassed but put the blame where it belongs. Judd didn’t have to steal shit.
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Last December they even tried to send Lindsay’s mom to talk to Dawn, but she never accepted the message, and then Hope deleted it.
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Has anyone ever actually gotten a response from Lindsay and kept the messages? Because I'd love to see how often she's active on IG. It's like she has nothing better to do. I wonder how she finds the time to be so well-read, spend with “her man,” and be that vain.
>>1100559>>1100553How is everyone getting so much information about Dawn? I follow her on IG and she hasn't posted anything about Manson in a while. And regardless of Michelle's intentions, the caps she posted were still legit.
No. 1102121
>>1100596She probably has nothing better to do than being on Instagram around the clock. Work doesn't seem to be an issue either.
I don't understand how they always call her a "photographer".
Professional training? Photo jobs? Nothing. Her photos are completely amateurish btw.
No. 1102610
>>1100596I sent her a message about two months ago when I saw she posted a couple of posts in her IG story that were from mansonisabusive & that’s when I got the the information. I’m guessing she probably hasn’t said much about him because she’s just been working on the lawsuit against him & nothing will be out about it until sometime next year.
>>1100559That is sketch as fuck. It sounds to me like fearless is trying to manipulate
victims by trying to act like ‘one of them’ to gain their trust just so she get information out of them. Because that doesn’t add up why she would care what anyone says about Manson when she went around saying awful shit about him. I agree with what another anon said, I think she really works for him.
No. 1102739
>>1102693Who’s this “we”? I’m my own person. I’ve been following her story since last year, & dm’d with her, & I don’t see anything inconsistent about what she says.
She has a lawyer. I’m sure she has a lawyer because she’s ”making things up”.
> I sent her caps from a random account on Twitter and she actually believed that it was Manson. Post the caps. Not sure why you would do that, but that’s shady, & it’s not far-fetched since he does use fake accounts.
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>>1102739There's nothing shady about it. I only did it to see if there was any method to her accusations. And there wasn't. She had no reason to believe that they were Manson. They changed their handle to @fleurnymphet and went private after I let them know about Dawn.
No. 1102785
>>1102780She didn’t say anything about believing you. She just asked you questions about how you came about it & that it wouldn’t surprise her.
Why would you even have to let that account know about her? She’s never even spoke about that account. She’s posted about a different porn account.
He acts like some black guy on that account & posts about porn that fetishizes race. That’s racism. And it doesn’t sound too far off that Manson would be behind such a detestable & vile account like that considering the accusations about him being a racist piece of garbage.
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He's definitely trying to suck up to John now that Rose is done supporting him. He doesn't have anyone else to cover his ass, besides maybe Sköld or Johnny Depp, but he hasn't talked to Tim since he left the band in 2008 and Depp isn't a reliable alibi anymore.
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They mean the podcast barely about music.
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>>1102460It's so ridiculous if it weren't so embarassing how she always puts her simple-minded nonsense underneath exactly after his posting. Can't she say it to his face? No, she has to hang out on Instagram around the clock. Must be a very exciting marriage.
Also interesting how comments are deleted that don't kiss her ass. I wonder who does that
irony offShe really likes every single ass-kiss comment. Well, she has the whole day off.
No. 1103603
>>1103462Wanted to post about that too. His post is dedicated to John Lennon, he died on that date. Her emotional intelligence must be below zero.
>>1103545I don't think they are friends anymore. I noticed Manson got rid of the matching tattoo on his wrist.
No. 1103619
>>1103603They are still following each other on IG and Lindsay is following Depp too. I think they are still friends but he just didn't give his friend public support for obvious reasons.
Removed tattoo? Any pictures where we can see that?
No. 1104008
>>1103881It looks covered.
Lindsay posted a lot of photos of cats with his hands, I think I'll look through them to see the tattoo.
No. 1104097
>>1104008His wrist wasn't visible in any of the pictures she saved to her highlights. This picture:
>>1103654 was from July. I don't think there are any more recent pictures where his tattoos were showing. Why would he have it removed anyway?
No. 1104519
>>1104354But he never tried to distance himself during divorce proceedings. He even made a statement about it:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/marilyn-manson-johnny-depp-amber-heard-divorce-he-was-completely-crucified-unjustly-a7225936.html Last time I checked, they still follow each other on IG.
>>1104465Obviously, he never got over Dita in the first place. And he doesn't show up in the likes on most of Lindsay's posts.
No. 1104799
>>1103462Didn’t her mom die? What the fuck is this bitch always on IG posting acting like nothing? And that everything is butterflies and rainbows? The fake ass gold-digging bitch should enjoy it while she can because both of the worlds are going to come to crumble. The worthless slut should just slit her fucking wrists. Fuck both of these wastes of oxygen who do nothing for the world.
> Her emotional intelligence must be below zero.And Manson has third-grade level intelligence.
>>1103445Like I’m sure John Lennon cares about his pathetic tribute. He’s probably rolling in his grave that some racist sick pedophile is doing a tribute to him.
No. 1104858
>>1104848Yes, the grief must've been immeasurable. But you have to set priorities. Instagram is more important.
Very funny also all these ass kissing accounts like for example "Lindsayusichfanclub". I seriously wonder, are these stupid 12 year old fangirls or is she behind it herself. Without a job she has all day. Oh, sorry, I forgot, she's one of the most talented photographers in the US!
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>>1104858She used to make hate pages against herself to get attention from Manson, so it's definitely not unlikely for her to run her own fan accounts.
No. 1104889
>>1104870I wouldn't put it past her.
And every time you think the film can't get any worse, you're proven wrong. Just under 500k followers. I estimate 75% bots and the rest are Manson fans. It should probably be made to appear that she has a career. Pathetic.
No. 1104976
>>1104895Of course she's nothing without him. It's just a mystery to me how a person can be so pathetic to live at the expense of her partner. Honestly, I'd be ashamed.
Probably she finds herself "so edgy", while she is obviously completely boring and uninteresting without any personality.
>>1104928Wtf? This is completely sick.One could scream with laughter what a charade is happening on Instagram.
Walmart-Xena Leslee defends her Joan of Arc with full force. How cute. Not!
I am downright fascinated to watch the stupidity of these mentally deranged broads.
A middle aged woman who enjoys being adored by young fangirls, if you're on that mental level, you've really made it.. congrats!
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>>1104999Apparently, that wasn't just a troll and they did find the thread. But why did they black out the comment section and the file name for the header image? That makes no sense.
No. 1105394
>>1105347They lived in her house.
>>1105309It doesn't matter for me. It could be just one episode when she managed to stand up for herself. I am sure their relationship was a lot like a rollercoaster but seeing photos of her scars and reading his interviews is enough for me.
I mean even if you are willing to ignore Evan, Esmé and other
victims, how do you cope with what he says in interviews?
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>>1105394>They lived in her house.This is the only article I can find about her brother being kicked out. Evan defends Manson because I assume she was forced to or afraid of the consequences if she didn’t.
https://people.com/celebrity/evan-rachel-wood-defends-marilyn-manson-breakup/ No. 1105489
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WARNING. Stay away from these accounts and do not interact with them: Leslee Lane, Oatmeal, and palliatian.elixir. Especially the Palliatian account. I know for a fact they are not who they say they are. Their pics are fake and they even lied about their first name. It’s either an associate or someone that works for Manson who set up that account on IG for him to use. As shown, there is a consistent pattern of that palliatian.elixir account and his real account posting at the same times.
No. 1105757
>>1105423That article is only partly true.
She lived with Manson at the time, but he never owned a guest house during that time. He lived in an apartment above a liquor store in West Hollywood.
It is true that he was
abusive though.The source stated that in the article. Even back then! Let that sink in.
I'm sure Manson didn't like Evan's brother because he wanted her completely isolated.
She said that when she tried to get away the first time Manson only gave her an hour or something to pack her things and that the people who helped her were literal lifesavers. I'm sure her brother was there and got in a fight with Manson, which is why people reported all that stuff to the magazine. Again, not all of it is true.
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>>1105757They split the first time in October 2008.
NME reported that her brother was the reason in early November.
No. 1105829
>>1105801Evan never invited him to live with them lmao
Half of the article is a lie.
No. 1105853
>>1105829Anything to back up your words?
Like I don't know anything. There are articles with conflicting information, idk why you guys are so confident when you talk about that incident. I just assumed she invited him to live with him bc idk it's just a random thing that popped up in my head.
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>>1105610At first I thought I met him back in 2015 through the fake Satan account on Twitter (not the S8n one). Nikki Sixx follows it, who when I had twitter I used to also follow.
But it wasn’t until March of this year - after the whole search warrant thing and I found out Manson made these insane allegations on me, that he actually knew who I was way before 2015 through a relative of a guy I knew when I used to live in Cleve. He found my account through him dating all the way back to 2012.
I ended up finding this all out because that guy I met in OH posted something very weird on his FB, along with another FB account, who I was friends with. Which was really weird that he posted what he did because I was always suspicious of that account having something to do with Manson, but I was never sure.
They both made similar posts about “looking for recommendations” for “contractors” at exactly around the same time, about two and half weeks after the cops came and served me the warrant. I was like what the fuck is going on here?
So why was that weird to me? Because when I was being questioned by the cops, they were questioning about who I lived with and what they did. And I told them that my now ‘ex-roommate’ did contracting work. These fucking cops or someone involved with this whole thing told Manson personal information about me and my roommate that had nothing to with his allegations that even needed to be said to anyone. For one, my roommate had no idea what the fuck was going on or any involvement. And them sharing his information that had nothing to do with anything, that ‘s not right. That’s unprofessional and shady shit. So I told my lawyer about this and showed him the posts, and he thought that was seriously fucked up too, And that’s when I did research on that guy I met in OH and found out he’s related to Manson.
No. 1106643
>>1106121I’m not her. If I was, wouldn’t they have deleted my post? Why so mad? Is it because she really is speaking the truth about your pathetic idol?
What doesn’t make sense? She said she first thought he found her account through a fake account on Twitter, but when she found out he made allegations on her, she found out he found her account through a guy she met that he’s related to.
No. 1106707
>>1106643Obviously, you are her because no one else is dumb enough to buy into her bullshit. They didn't delete your original post either. And you still never explained why he supposedly made allegations against you.
You never said anything about him making false claims against you until the last thread. Before that, you were trying to say that he used one of your IG captions. “Master the chaos in you,” and, “We Are Chaos,” have one (1) word in common. The quote you used was by someone named Mama Indigo anyway, so he didn't steal anything from you in the first place. If anything, you're the one that took that quote from them because you never gave credit. And don't start with the intellectual property theft bullshit again because there's no proof anywhere that he was ever actually on your account. If you can take him to court for that, so can every other brainless, middle-aged woman that uses those stupid quotes in their captions.
I definitely don't doubt that he uses fake accounts to groom girls and harass his accusers, but there's no way that I believe anything you're saying. Either post some viable proof or shut the fuck up.
No. 1106755
>>1106707Again, I’m not her. Don’t they delete her posts? They didn’t delete her original post because they didn’t start deleting them until towards the end of the last thread.
Where are you even getting that she is middle age, lol? What does that have to do with anything that you would even bring that up? Because that’s a lie, she looks nowhere near it.
How do you know no one believes her? Do you know everyone that talks to her? Her friends and other people on her social media seem to believe her. When she posted about the ‘We Are Chaos’ song, that was just one example. She said he used conversations and posts from her FB on more songs, like don’t ‘Don’t Chase The Dead’. And how do you explain what he said in that interview he did for that Italian article?
No. 1106869
>>1106755I'm genuinely convinced that you're her because if you would've seen what “she” posted in the last few threads, you wouldn't believe anything she says either. Maybe you're new, I don't know, but if you are, you need to go back and read the previous threads. There's more information there besides the shit about Dawn.
Anyway… He never said anything about her in that Italian article. And it doesn't matter when her posts started being deleted in the last thread. Moderators can delete them whenever. Apparently, her ban is up, so she's posting again regardless of whether or not you're her:
>>1106013I meant “no one” as in other anons, at least not the majority. I'm not sure why anyone would. She hasn't showed any legitimate proof for any of us to believe her. If she had any, I'm sure she would've posted it by now. It wouldn't hurt her credibility in court any more than posting on a gossip forum already has. But I doubt she has a case anyway.
No. 1106972
>>1106869Nope, I’m someone else, but think what you want. I thought they were still deleting her posts.
She has posted proof, mostly on her social media. I just find it hard to believe that someone who isn’t legit would post about this in front of everyone she knows and have a lawyer.
I didn’t mean he talked about her in the article, I meant this
>>1025612When he talked about what his new album was going to be about, it sounded like that conversation.
No. 1107026
>>1106972I follow her social media accounts and I've never seen her post about anything besides a few of his alleged fake porn accounts in her story (and that wouldn't be illegal even if he did/does have one, so I don't understand why she posted about it in the first place).
Some of the anons in the previous threads thought she might've been a sockpuppet or someone on Manson's payroll, trying to discredit his real
victims. And I doubt she has a lawyer. I might be wrong, but I think she said Casey Anthony, the same lawyer that represented Harvey Weinstein at the beginning of his case, was her attorney. That's very hard to believe.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but I think everything she's said here is bullshit. I think if you knew everything she's posted in the past few threads, you would too.
No. 1107081
>>1107026A lot of it is on FB, but she’s posted some stuff in her IG stories too, more than just about that porn account. Maybe you missed it. And you must’ve missed the part about why she was posting about that account. She posted about it, because, it is illegal. He’s using fake accounts to solicit minors. And he made gross comments to one on that account. That account definitely sounds a lot like him, especially with him being a predator and with so many people saying about how he’s a pedophile.
I don’t know who Harvey Weinstein’s lawyer is, but he couldn’t be her lawyer because she doesn’t live in NY. So they must’ve been talking about someone else.
I don’t see how she isn’t a real
victim. He made allegations on her that aren’t true.
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She's really doubling down.
No. 1107377
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lmao didn't he used to follow fan accounts like every fucking day? Now it's all industry people. Def staying on the downlow while whatsherface is squeezing out every bit of attention she can get lmfao
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>>1107377He still follows some fan accounts, search Manson on his follow list.
I noticed he slighted @mrperou’s book in his recent post, yikes.
No. 1107541
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Speaking of Lindsay, @mansonisabusive posted this about her. I don't doubt she was abused, but I can't feel sorry for her anymore because she's had multiple chances to leave him. At this point, it really is just her fault.
No. 1107846
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>>1107772Lindsay Usich was a famous film producer.
Lindsay Warner is a film photographer. That's a downgrade, I agree.
I can't believe they did everything they could to promote her as Lindsay Usich and she changed her last name and wants to be known as Lindsay Warner. So it wasn't for his image? It was and is for her vanity.
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She completely ruined her nose. Her face doesn't even look real, especially not compared to Ashley's.
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>>1107224When his album came out, I saw at least hundreds of comments on Twitter calling him a pedophile for dating Evan Rachel Wood.
Who knows for sure… but it is odd how that account and his real one seem to post at the same times. Also, seeing this tweet was very weird, and the response to it made me think of ERW.
No. 1107994
>>1107846Vanity? Do you really think someone with a face like that is vain? Honestly, she can have thousands of fillers injected into her face and lips, it won't help her.
You can be a fan or not but you have to admit, all the women Manson showed himself in public with were beautiful.
She doesn't fit in there at all. And he married her of all things?
>>1107935Omfg. The next embarrassing attempt.
No. 1108061
>>1107431Yes I know he indeed still follows the fan accounts. He just hasn't done that in a while now while Lindsey is still following anyone who gives her any bit of attention lmao there's new ones that are showing up that she follows immediately and its probably made by her. But whatever the truth is, now he's all into following industry people. Im surprised hes still following the fan accounts from before.
I just think it's interesting cos he's trying to clean up his image. So now it's all follows for singers, actors, directors, publicists, producers, writers.
Just pointing out that his game has chhanged. And if hes trying to distance himself from Johny Depp then LMAO that would be my favorite move. Like everyone knows why.
And Lindsey is such a narcissist omg. I'm so positive that shes creating all those lindsey+manson instagrams because seriously who would even give a fuck about her? Manson has two types of fans. Those who love his music and those who hate lindsey because they're obsessed with him. It's so dumb. And her account is full of bot follows.
It's obvious that she knows the person on that one website , metalheadzone. It's the only website that posts about her and they write an article about her sharing a flower on her insta stories LMAOO as if anyone cares. She's a nobody and the bots make her AND him look so bad. How tf is he not embarrassed by her? It's so sad. But color me shocked for him not seeing right through it. Hes not as smart as he thinks. He married someone so vapid and vain. Definition of the types he used to hate. Hes a sell out. SAD.
No. 1108065
>>1107994 lol right? How did he end up with someone so hollow? I dont care if she's not as attractive as his previous exs but when someone so blah comes with such a shitty personality, it's like oh I see.. Manson is into someone so lifeless, basic and boring. Bless her though. She tries so hard lol
I love that this website is one of the top results when you type his name in. Its how I discovered it and you lot are the best. Must hurt that no one but metalheadzone cares and it has nothing to do with her not being famous. Shes just boring.
He obviously got married to clean up his image because if he seriously loves someone so hollow, then he's lamer than I thought. Whats next? A baby? For sympathy? LMAO I would love to see him sink that low. He's already sinking faster than the titanic with this obvious display of desperation. He either cant find someone better than Lindsey now or her brainless self appeals to him for those reasons alone. Color me stunned.
No. 1108074
>>1108061I disagree with you, anon, I certainly think he is smart and I'm sure he could find someone better.
I try to express myself in a civilized way, I think he has his reasons to have married such a dull person. Whether that reason has anything to do with "love" is another matter.
I can well imagine that she is behind many of these ridiculous M&L accounts. Who else would do this and for what reason?
No. 1108110
>>1107986IDK, but this does sound like something he would say. I don’t know anyone that would think that way. What a sick imbecile freak. I knew he needed psychological help, but if that’s his account, he really REALLY needs it. This is seriously disturbing.
You have Lindsay with her fake lame ass and posting selfie’s - and then Manson running some porn account and jerking off 24/7 a day. This is just sad. Two useless losers in society.
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>>1108110Maybe, but it seems unlikely, especially considering the person that owns that account is supposedly black. If he was going to post his nudes, I don't think he'd use someone else's. He even posted a video of himself having sex on IG, so why would he start trying to hide now? Narcissists are exhibitionists. It wouldn't make sense for him to do that. And he's racist. He has no motive to own an account like that.
No. 1108129
>>1108082don't get it.. When I was a teen who was swooning over him, I used to think he was the smartest man alive. I'll be 40 in less than a week and what experience taught me is that a lot of fake-intelligent men are drawn to really dumb airheads. that's one way to ensure you have the upper hand in a relationship. I'd really like to see a smart dude being unafraid to be with a true equal. Then again the other thing age has taught me is that the ones I thought were smart once were far from it .. they just learned well how to come off as smart.
Can't expect people to see you as intelligent when your fragile ego can't handle anything better than a sad attention seeking vapid airhead.
No. 1108163
>>1108150>>1108139>>1108132>>1108131>>1108129>>1108123>>1108110>>1108151STOP TALKING TO DAWN.
In the last thread a mod warned that anybody who talks to her must be banned.
What the fuck now? What are the mods doing? Did anybody go to meta?
If there's no milk, just let the thread rest ffs. If you post one hundred more times why Lindsay is useless and wouldn't get any attention without him, it won't count as contribution.
Sage for losing my shit.
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She's still milking her mother's death.
No. 1108850
>>1108823She don’t give two shits… Look how fake that post sounds.
Yeah someone who is sad continuously posts on IG like —“look at me!” Look at me!” “I’m so great!” “I married a gross cheating racist pedo!”
No. 1108862
>>1108846Tears are already dripping down my face.
The grief must be infinite when, two weeks after Mother's death, you're in the mood to take mirror selfies with a "Mrs. Warner" stocking on Halloween.
My guess is "Mrs. Warner" would have "Mrs. Warner" tattooed in bold letters on her forehead if she could. It's so ridiculous if it weren't so pathetic.
The main thing is that Instagram ass kissers applaud "Mrs. Warner." Let's see how long "Mrs. Warner" will "stay Mrs. Warner".
No. 1109543
>>1109396 Yeah he probably got it from Dawn lol.
I wonder if he’s referring to her or mansonisabusive in that interview.
No. 1109571
>>1109543LMAO Dawn has shown
zero proof she knows Manson. She’s too stupid to realize false accusations and bogus evidence helps him.
This was her ‘evidence’ that Madelyn still talks to Manson.
>>989059 Dawn thinks she’s an alien, she’s clearly mentally ill and wants attention.
Stop trolling these threads with your bullshit, you’re not helping yourself or anyone here. No attorney would advise you to act insane on a public board and share dubious screenshots.
No. 1109579
>>1109558Ugh… not her… and he knows who she is because he made allegations on her. She’s one of main people that speaks out about him,. So stop trying to discredit her, ANGELA… or is it Manson?
>>1109571Nobody is acting insane. And so what if someone is mentally ill? Quit shaming. Even if someone did have mental illness, it doesn't make them stupid and liars. It’s actually a FACT that people with certain mental illness such as depression and anxiety are intelligent.
No. 1109584
>>1109581Is it fun to talk to yourself, Dawn?
It sucks, by the way.
No. 1109595
>>1109579Who the fuck is Angela? Someone else you're trying to accuse? Posting fake evidence just discredits his real
victims. You don't need to fake shit to incriminate him—there's enough out about him already. Go be an attention whore somewhere else.
No. 1109619
>>1109595Listen lady, you’re nuts that you keep accusing me of being her. Go watch a nice Hallmark Christmas movie and calm your tits, instead of jerking off to porn 24/7. No wonder you’re so angry. Porn addiction causes violence.
Maybe you don’t think she’s a real
victim, but I do.
No. 1109633
>>1109191Oops lmaaoo
Anyway, it's nothing you didn't already see.
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https://instagram.com/theyarealwayssomethingtofear?igshid=12hf7iu4dndlzSpeaking of Dawn. Someone made a tribute page lol and it's definitely someone from lolcow
They also changed the name already
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Callmemrpretentious looks more suspicious. Perou responded after Manson called Reedus' book the best of the year.
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More versions of what has happened in Denny's 1/2
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2/2
No. 1110031
>>1109994It’s the same incident when Manson got punched in the face at Denny’s. Sounds like he deserved it.
>>1109978He is so gross, that’s the second time I’ve read he called them bitches for turning down sex. Imagine being so drunk/arrogant/disturbed he does this
in front of their boyfriends. No. 1110068
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From 666fearless
No. 1110315
>>1110294Saging is for when you're not contributing to the thread. Just type “sage” in the email field before you post, unless you have milk. Posts are automatically anonymous, so you can just leave your name blank.
And that's really weird. I doubt it was a coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a fling or something, especially since there were some rumors going around lately that she'd been on a talk show with bruises on her arms and apparently she made a gesture for other
victims to recognize.
No. 1110833
>>1110803It really can be. Like I said, it's a common phrase. That's like saying two singers who have used the phrase "a chip on your shoulder" in their lyrics can't be coincidental just because they've interacted in some capacity before.
To think that one shared (and again, very common) phrase means anything happened between TS and Manson is just reaching.
No. 1110850
>>1110068Fearless is full of shit.
>>1110294The lyrics in both of the songs are nothing alike. The only similar verse is “champagne problems”. That’s it. That’s like Dawn when she posted about “We Are Chaos”.
Also, Taylor Swift is not friends with him. They met at some award show a couple years ago. Just because you meet someone once doesn’t mean you’re “friends” or know them on a personal level.
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I've never seen her smile before, but somehow it's even worse than her regular resting bitch face.
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>>1111108I’d be willing to bet she knows who that person is because she has their number, just like Manson does.
It’s evident he’s on that account. What he posted, that’s on that computer about “change”, is what he said in the Jan. 2020 Italian article, and part of the lyrics to Keep My Head Together.
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the irony
No. 1111675
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I’m genuinely confused by what she means here, is this a positive or negative for 2021? Why is she so cryptic.
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TL;DR I found a woman who wrote to fearless at Manson's request.
I'm trying to catch up with the threads and I was pleasantly impressed with that post
>>1077285It is a pity, however, that anon did not bring any proofs that Manzin does not like Lindsay, I decided to find it myself and started with his Facebook. The plan was like that: check his posts 2012-2015, comments, then go see his Instagram but Facebook was just enough.
I was looking through photos and came across this one, it's in the pic too:
https://www.facebook.com/manzindotnet/photos/photo-by-tater-tot-skye9815nashville-tn/882732065125846I saw Grazioso and thought it was familiar. I did my best to remember where I saw it and I knew I definitely saw it online because such last names are not common at my place. I gave up.
And then a few days ago an amazing anon posts this
>>1100345Grazioso! Well of course kinda strange I didn't remember right away but whatever. Well in short, I decided to google and found this
https://www.menhavingbabies.org/surrogacy-seminars/ny/program/Not very promising, isn't it? An article about a kind woman who gives birth to kids of gay couples but there is one moment that deserves attention:
>marcy is a three-time surrogate from connecticut who has worked with same-sex male couples on two occasions. She is the mother of one daughter. Being a surrogate has provided her with so many meaningful experiences and wonderful memoriesThere is also a photo of this kind-hearted woman (see pic related).
I thought it was a bit surreal. A surrogate mother is a flying monkey of Manson? That's too much. But I went on to google their names together. I found an obituary:
>We'll always love you-Andrea,Andrew, Marcy and Tatianahttps://www.legacy.com/obituaries/palmbeachpost/obituary.aspx?n=fred-campagnuolo&pid=86219987but that didn't prove anything, and it still seemed crazy to me that a gay surrogate mother could help Manson. I abandoned that idea and continued to dig up Manzin's photos. At some point I found myself lurking on his website and looking at a very inetersting photo, see pic related.
Holy shit, right?
But there's more!
No. 1111855
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>>1111852Now let's take a little closer look at Tatyana Tater Skye Grazioso.
She has photos with William Corgan on Facebook. Her FB
https://www.facebook.com/votreesclaveShe is also credited on mansonwiki, on the photo from 2013.
https://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/2013/01/25_Wallingford,_CTAnd most importantly! I was procrastinating and scrolling Instagram feed and spotted nobody but Tatyana Grazioso in a video from Manson's birthday! She is holding the cake! And it's 2020.
If fearless went to his birthday parties before 2018, then obviously she could have met both Tatyana and her mother since Tatyana is clearly a longtime friend of Manson's. Was it really a surprise for fearless to receive an email from someone with Grazioso as their last name?
Is it a reach?
No. 1111896
>>1111879Why insane?
>>1111852Thank you! Could you link manzins website?
No. 1111984
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We are about to dive into an ocean of milk.
No. 1112007
>>1111704She’s Manson’s primary
victim, why not read into it. I doubt she can speak freely.
>>1111852That’s crazy, good investigation work. I have to wonder why a friends mother would help him? Maybe they just used her name?
>>1111984Looking forward to this.
No. 1112160
>>1112148Lol
I am just happy somebody's gonna talk about the abuse. His videos get 100k views on average.
No. 1112459
>>1111855You're mixing things up, anon.
I don't know who this Tatyana is but she is definitely not the woman holding the cake at Manson's birthday party. Her IG is paulababy1, a longtime friend of his.
>>1112046I think she will never allow comments because then she would have to deal with negative comments as well and then her perfect world shit show would break apart and her true bitch behavior would come to light again.
She prefers to let the fangirls do that, who defend her on their ridiculous M&L accounts with their "hate will be blocked" postings. Unless, of course, she's behind them herself.
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>>1112369Some comments on the video.
No. 1112469
>>1112369>>1112422Manson said in an interview that he learned how to fight in case he does go to prison because he doesn’t want someone to make him his “bitch”. I don’t get it. You would think he would want that because he says he likes dick.
I’m also completely disturbed that he actually bragged and said no one talks about the
real illegal shit he’s done. All that comes to mind is that he raped a minor or something.
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>>1112459I took a look at paulababy, it's definitely not her. But that girl looks exactly like Tatyana.
No. 1112518
>>1112511Random fan's mother helped Manson? Random fan has a lot of merch with autographs? Random fan has a long friendship with manzin? Random fan has been to William Corgan's bd?
She's not a random fan.
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>>1112518How would Tatyana have fearless’s email unless Manson gave it to her? He either passed her info around or he’s making shit up.
Hardcore fans collect his autograph and befriend Manzin who’s well known in the fandom. She posted this in MMC a year ago, around the time she supposedly attended his birthday. Why wouldn’t she have anything recent is she’s fiends with him?
No. 1112524
>>1112520In your screenshot she says anything to spare. Isn't "to spare" about something you don't need anymore? It doesn't mean she didn't have anything recent.
>Hardcore fans collect his autograph and befriend Manzin who well known in the fandom. Hello SHE WAS PARTYING IN 2013 WITH MANZIN AND NICK KUSHNIR. She probably fucked Nick, see that lipstick all over his face
>>1111852I thought it was her mother who obtained fearless' email, not Tatyana.
Where's OP? Any clarifications?
No. 1112525
>>1112524Couldn’t she just ask for another autograph if she sees him often? Why wouldn’t she have any to spare if she can just ask.
Lots of fans party with Manzin.
How would Tatyana or her mom obtain fearless’s email unless Manson gave it to them? There’s no evidence that fearless and Tatyana know each other.
No. 1112527
>>1112525I am confused. Are you the anon who says it's not Tatyana holding the cake?
Who said Tayana and fearless know each other?
I do believe Manson gave her or her mother fearless'email address.
>Lots of fans party with Manzin. And all of them have photos like that one
>>1112481 ?
No. 1112531
>>1112527I don't think Tatyana ever emailed Michelle? The emails that she posted about were from someone named Marcy, unless there were more from someone else that I didn't see.
And that's definitely @paulababy1 in the picture. She's looks a lot heavier than Tatyana did in the pictures that were posted of her trying to skinwalk Lilith.
Also, what does Manzin have to do with any of this?
No. 1112535
>>1112322Most reasonable people here believe he had at least hooked up with her once, then rapidly lost interest when he realized how crazy she was. He already had Lindsay, so.
After participating in this thread I have my own tinfoil that there are roughly three types of girls/women he targets and stays in contact with:
1. Girls that remind him of Dita or ERW (Gabreille, Esme, Dr Ami). These seems to be the only ones he really invests any time or emotions in and doesn't completely fuck over.
2.Girls that can offer him something transactional, social resources, introductions to other girls, ect (Lilith, Jordan, Courtney Canon, Coco Teale).
3. Introverted, passive girls with low self esteem that he can mindfuck with for some kind of sadistic sexual enjoyment ( LBK). The leaked emails with LBK showed real emotional anguish on her part and response vs Madelyn's kind of dead, wooden "muh monster I lub you".
>>1111855Am I fucking crazy or is that early culey from squidbillies on his birthday cake. This is a 50+ y/o man.
No. 1112678
>>1112535yeah definitely Early from squidbillies. Unknown Hinson, the voice actor for Early, was fired this year for posting nasty shit about the BLM movement and, of all the people to attack, Dolly Parton. I'm sure Manson stands in complete solidarity with his tantrums and has made him his personal hero of 2020.
I think it's doubly pathetic that he looks to this character as a role-model, he thinks there is nothing cooler than being a white trash bigot and yet he has removed himself SO far from what he came from… He's embarrassed of that fact and tries to be 'cool'-by-association via other bigots, both real and fictional (like fellow Florida redneck neonazi Norman Reedus)
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Is anyone else curious why he tells people not to share pictures from his parties? Like, what could've went on during his birthday that he wouldn't want people to know about? Or maybe he was just having a bad chin day or he didn't want to be photographed with Lindsay (if she was even invited).
No. 1112867
>>1112852Probably cause no one likes to see pics of themselves wasted / on coke / various other drugs. Especially not when you don't know people are taking pictures of you. So that's one thing I understand.
About Tatyana. She does strike me as Madelyn No 2. Wasn't her account full of Manson posts ages ago? Why does she post about other musicians and not Manson? Strange.
Then she started the Schiele shit + cryptic posts. Similar to Madelyn.
They probably shagged once or twice and she's hopelessly in lub with her monstuh. Like Mads kek.
No. 1112878
>>1112868lol that's true
but the connection between Manson and Marcy is proved though. He used his fangirl's mom to stalk fearless.
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>>1112881Like I said, her accounts were full of manson shit back when she went by Tater Skye. Or Tater Tot.
This took me a 5 sec google search.
Note that she posted this pic on the forum herself.
Makes me wonder why all her manson posts are gone now lol
No. 1113018
>>1112974I don't think he ever really meant to hurt them. Narcissists
do feel remorse and empathy—their emotions are just muted. He has a lot of problems mentally and he didn't get help when he needed it. Everyone in his circle has fed into his fantasies for so long that it's turned him into a lost cause. Even in interviews, he sounds like he's given up on himself. Like, “This is who I am. Take or leave it.”
No. 1113035
>>1112974You forgot to add Rose McGowan. She’s the ONLY woman I know of he didn’t fuck over, abuse, and cheat on. She was probably his ideal.
I remember when I first saw her with him. I was like… how is someone so pretty dating THAT.
No. 1113163
>>1113018Agreed.
I think if he finally had a real woman by his side, who's with him for his sake and not for his money, things would be different. You can hate me for this, anons but I wish him that he still finds this woman.
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Patricia Arquette tweeted this today. lol
No. 1113205
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Her caption reads like a thinly veiled cry for help.
I think the thing that honestly annoys me most about them is that both of them could've had so much potential if they would've made better choices, but instead they do shit like this. If he would've gone to therapy and checked himself into rehab, he might not have turned out to be an abuser. And Lindsay didn't have to be a gold-digging whore. She could've had a normal life, like Ashley (which isn't much of an improvement, but still). Some of her photographs really aren't that bad, even though they definitely don't look like the work of someone that's supposedly been a photographer for 20+ years. And both of them have just gotten progressively worse since they've been together, like they feed into each other's toxicity. She looks like an amateur beekeeper from everything she's done to her face and I doubt Manson ever releases another good record, especially if the last one was any barometer. I know I'm in the minority, but I really do hope that they split up and work on themselves, even though it's not what they deserve.
No. 1113218
>>1112965Nta can you link with caps? It is from 2020, follow the link, it'll take you to Paula's account, the date is there. The other one is from 2017, and the cap is above. At this point it doesn't even matt tbh, if anons agreed it's not Tatyana.
Why are some anons upset over posts about Tatyana? It's great it was proved one more time that he orders his fans to do shady things for him. It's definitely her mother was emailing fearless. It's hard to deny it.
I think anon mentioned fearless, implying that if both Tatyana and fearless used to go to his bds, fearless must have known Grazioso and that would have proved she's a liar one more time, but that's not Tayana in the video. (I have to admit though, the woman looks a lot like her)
No. 1113220
>>1113205> I really do hope that they split up and work on themselves, even though it's not what they deserve.No fucking way.
Or he'll go to jail for men and she'll go to the one for women. I have no mercy or sympathy for these ugly abusers.
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>>1113035lmaoo he cheated on Rose with at least Dita Von Teese.
In January 2001 he invited Dita to one of his concerts while he was STILL with Rose. Dita stayed on his tour bus for 5 days. Courtney Love talked about how Manson constantly had girls backstage on tour while he was dating Rose.
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a71/dita-von-teese-0507/ No. 1113223
>>1113018He never really meant to hurt them????
He doesn't give a fuck about others. He deliberately cheated on each and every one of them, physically tortured them, locked them in rooms for hours on end, verbally and mentally abused them.
How fucking stupid can you be?
This is exactly what he does. Manipulate people so they think that he's the
victim. Unbelievable.
No. 1113368
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Found a random Lindsay cap while looking around MMC. The comments said she deleted it within hours.
No. 1113416
>>1113192She’s comparing Manson to Susan Powell, a Trump lawyer. Basically calling him crazy.
>>1113205>>1113368Compared to how Lindsay used to post she’s so wooden now, devoid of real personality. Her account is so strange now, imo. No comments, bot followers, vague, bland posts. It’s like she’s a prop.
>>1113218>Why are some anons upset over posts about Tatyana? It's great it was proved one more time that he orders his fans to do shady things for him. It's definitely her mother was emailing fearless. It's hard to deny it.I’m not upset but OP was kinda aggressive pushing a conspiracy that’s not true. I searched all of Tatyana’s posts on MMC and there’s no indication she knows him beyond a fan. If she attended Manson’s birthday wouldn’t she brag about it on social media like she did for Corgan? Paula did and she’s his real friend. Why would Manson ask a fan’s mother to email fearless and expose himself like that? Imo, the more likely scenario is they just used her name or it’s a coincidence.
No. 1113446
>>1113433It's not Tatyana or Paula. They don't have a mole or piercing beneath their lip.
I don't think we should continue discussing it, it doesn't matter anymore since it's not Tatyana.
>hey just used her name or it’s a coincidence.that's very unlikely imo, given his record.
No. 1113681
>>1113368I remember that Manson was so pissed bc she posted about Lily being sick. She even says it in the caption.
She had to delete it almost immediately.
No. 1113879
>>1113222I don’t think he cheated on Rose. She would’ve said if he did. I mean…maybe he did, and she just didn’t know.
It says in the media she broke up with him in 2001, but it doesn’t give a month. It must’ve been at the very beginning of Jan., but most likely she broke up with him before that and that’s just when they announced it to the media.
Then he got with Dita soon after. She was the rebound relationship from Rose.
He bounces from relationship to relationship, and either gets engaged or married to the first woman he starts dating.
>>1113223Exactly. He’s a full blown narcissist, and seems like he could also be a sadistic psychopath. They have no remorse or empathy. He is literally the lowest form of inhumane shit on the planet. He has no redeeming qualities.
If he did, he would’ve gotten help a long time ago, instead of marrying Lindsay and thinking that’s going to do anything for him.
>>1113220 This. They both belong in prison.
No. 1114029
>>1113995Judging by her livejournal, she was already mentally underdeveloped before she met him, but I feel like her finally having someone famous to latch onto just exacerbated all of her craziness. I mean, he obviously doesn't love her and there's no way to sugar-coat that. And she obviously doesn't love him either or she wouldn't continuously post about their relationship like it's some rare, amazing spectacle instead of just
being with him. It's like if no one sees it then it didn't happen. Most 36-year-olds at least have jobs and some form of their own income. It's pathetic.
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>>1113879There's even an exact date! Lmao
Of course Dita was the reason they split up a week after Dita spent five days with him on his tour bus. It's a little too obvious.
No. 1114056
>>1114029This live journal was a true literary masterpiece. Rarely have I read such a bunch of bullshit in one sitting. And she hasn't evolved in any way. A conversation with her must be about as interesting as with a slice of bread.
This whole show is so unbelievable and embarrassing. I'm curious when she'll post a picture of stained bedding. As "proof" of how unbelievable and unattainable for everyone the night with "my love" was, lol.
My ass, isn't it disgusting enough to parasitize your way through life at the expense of your husband at the age of 36? I remember an interview where he said he was attracted to strong, independent women. She's neither one thing nor the other.
No. 1114413
>>1114043Interesting. Well, that could just be when they announced it to the media. I don’t know , maybe the piece of shit cheated on Rose, too, but she never said. She just said she broke up with him because of his cocaine habit.
If he did cheat, and Dita knew about Rose, then Dita deserved getting cheated on, and Manson deserved getting shitted on by her for being a pathetic low-life. Dita was only with him to make a name for herself anyway.
No. 1114494
>>1114029You’re right about that…. there is nothing about that relationship that’s based on love. She’s with him for his money, and
he’s incapable of love. He doesn’t love no one. So he married a stupid looking slut who puts up with & is okay with all the vile shit he does. He probably thinks she’s with him and stayed all those years because she does love him.
>>1113893Manson is pure fucking evil, and even boasts about it. That’s why he’s into all that Satanic shit. Those people are immoral and that’s why they thrive off of doing sick shit. People who are empathetic don’t go around raping, assaulting, and abusing others.
No. 1114849
>>1114798He couldn't control Dita. Which was why he was constantly drunk and on drugs and ultimately looked for an easier
victim.
Then he blamed Dita and said she wanted to change him although he wanted to change her.
Jordan Arentz said on her blog that he is obsessed with appearance and how he and his partner look together. Dita suited his image/appearance perfectly. An articulate high class stripper that looks like snow white. He tried to change every single woman that came after into her.
Rose McGowan and Dita were the only seemingly independent women he ever dated. Rose probably only dated him for attention (she herself said that Manson's ugly and that she wasn't interested at first), Dita wasn't interested at first either and probably also only dated him for fame.
How other people see him and his reputation seem to be the only things that matter to him. Typical narcissist.
No. 1115004
>>1114990I don't mean to defend Manson but I lowkey love the golden age of grotesque and read a lot about the era.
He had that burlesque vibe before he met Dita, he obsesses over Bettie Page. It's sad to say but deep inside I think he chose Dita because she would make (and she did) a good accessory to the visuals of the album. If you read Dita's book, you'd know Manson helped her with her style, perfected it.
I love her style too, and I used to love her personality. Now I feel so wrong about it.
No. 1115007
>>1115004 Well, looks like his “visuals” didn’t do so well, because that album totally bombed. Lmao
> And sure he loved Dita's image, so much that he basically ripped her burlesque/silent movie star vibe for Golden Age of Grotesque.She said he used her to “write” that album. He sure loves to rip off other women.
No. 1115015
>>1115004Anon i absolutely get it, Manson sometimes looked like clown in that era but it felt fresh then with the videos, cinema references, cabaret burlesque vibes, plus the website, felt just fun to explore. I know he liked those things but with Dita probably he felt finally bold enough to embrace it even if fans wouldn't like it. I see what you say about her being nice accessory to him. He used her as an extra for videos (mobscene), they went to red carpets alot.
Damn Manson actually had a woman with similar interests that was able to inspire him and then he let it go just like that for a young, completely different girl. Dita in a lot of ways was ready made "dream girl" material while he had to progressively change Evan to his liking. Guess in the end he preferred someone still growing and naive so he can mold them however he wants. Dita was too strong for him. But it's stupid when people say "Dita broke him down" or something, he brought it all upon himself.
>>1115007It seems it's 50/50, it's funny how this one's considered both a flop and his last good era.
No. 1115051
>>1114849while you're probably right about all of that, I do think Dita probably had feelings towards him because it was pretty obvious she was very hurt by him cheating on her, hence the moving out
on Christmas day. Maybe they all 'started' to date him for a reason but eventually got feelings.
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I honestly can't understand how anyone is attracted to him. He looks seriously diseased. The blotches on his hip remind me of the ones you see on AIDS patients. Or maybe they're just bed sores because he's basically a vegetable.
>>1115106Lilith being underage when he actually fucked her is debatable, but that's not what I was talking about. I meant girls that are really young, as in less than 15-16. Being a pedophile and having sex with older minors are two different things. Pedophiles are attracted to childlike characteristics. Lilith was physically mature and already a junkie by the time they were together. That obviously doesn't excuse the fact that he pretended to be a teenage girl to groom her or all the other shit that went on between them that we don't know about, but he isn't a pedophile.
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You really don't know whether to laugh or vomit. What has she done to her eyes? At some point, they're probably vertical in her strange face. Horrible. It's a mystery to me how anyone can find anything beautiful about this person. The sight of her makes me sick.
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I mean her pictures are always heavily photoshopped, even polaroids, but you can clearly see that Manson is completely fucked up and doesn't know what's going on. And she smiles like everything's fine. They are both fucking sick.
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This is the most hilarious fucking thing I've seen all day. He looks high out of his mind—I doubt he even dressed himself. I don't think anyone could handle her sober.
No. 1115198
>>1115179LMAO
A YouTuber has announced a series about his
abusive behaviour, and hus biggest attempt to claim innocence is that pathetic T-shirt?
Lol these idiots can't understand that his
abusive behaviour towards Lindsay has been documented itt and nothing that they'll do now can help
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>>1115179A much more realistic version a few years ago.
No. 1115235
>>1115129Don’t try to normalize it with this sick shit. A minor is a minor, there is no difference. It’s not like he’s only a few years older, they’re children compared to him.
Lilith did NOT look like no matured woman. She looked like some nasty ass child midget troll.
Just FYI, he IS a sick pedo who is also attracted to like 11 year olds and thinks they’re “hot” and uses fake accounts to solicit them. Especially ones who live in these foreign Asian or Middle Eastern countries.
No. 1115246
>>1115235There is a difference. It doesn't make it right, but being attracted to a 10-year-old and a 17-year-old is not the same thing.
Lilith might be ugly, but she was physically mature. And she was probably 18 when they had sex. He's not a complete idiot. He knows better than to have a high-profile relationship with a minor.
And you implying that he's a xenophile makes your other accusations even more unrealistic. I thought you said he was racist? Racism and fetishizing other races are different things too. The more you lie, the more unbelievable your story becomes. No one believes you. GO AWAY.
No. 1115253
>>1115246Omg stop trying to normalize or justify it in your sick mind with this “xenophile” shit. That’s just semantics. A child is a child no matter what word you wanna use - and it’s REPULSIVE!
YES fetishizing a race is RACIST! Again, don’t try to justify racism!
No. 1115304
>>1115301I know about schizophrenia but she had dementia too, it developed closer to her death.
And yet he came across sober and a bit more realistic about himself in interviews this last year. So it's hard to say.
>>1115300I am so sorry for that, anon. I wish I forgot it.
I am shocked they spent Christmas with Ashley and her husband, though he is not in the photos. Did Ashley take her kids to Manson's house? Is that bitch crazy too? She let her sister go like that, and now her kids?
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>>1115106 This issue has been done to death, read the old Lilith Levisis threads. They didn’t physically meet until she was 18 and living in nyc for college, before that she lived in bumfuck nowhere in Kentucky with her rich republican mom and wasn’t even “goth” until she met him, just some tumblr era alt girl blue hair shit. Their meeting happened 100% by accident thru her friendship with internetgirl.
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This is why no one speaks out about him.
No. 1115472
>>1115460Exactly,
victims and whistleblowers get bullied and harassed.
They’re making fun of Edwin for being gay? That’s fucked up. How much proof do they fucking need, Edwin used testimony and verified sources. Whoever is behind @oatmealosboune is legit deranged and way too invested in defending a celebrity who doesn’t care about them.
No. 1115482
>>1115472The ironic thing is that his fan-base is supposedly judgement free while they're using “gay” as an insult. I think if Lindsay didn't constantly ask fans to harass people that don't like her or encourage the shit that accounts like that do, it wouldn't be as bad. The community is
toxic enough without her help.
No. 1115500
>>1115415sage for ot/bg info:
The older guy was some local junkie she hooked up with. She wrote about how she had no friends in high school so she would spend all her time with her "older boyfriend". I can't believe I've wasted braincells remember this trash info, but for some reason I remember this pretty clearly.
I'm sure she and manson communicated online, but she didn't meet him until she was 18 and he toured in nyc/nj area where she was college.She specifically said she met him for the first time in his NYC hotel room (where was lindsay? lol) and they hooked up that night. Even if she wanted to I have no idea how she would have met him sooner, her mom moved them to some tiny town in 2008 in kentucky. According the mansonwiki the only time he has every played in Kentucky within the last 20 or so years was in 1997, 2018 and 2019. Him meeting and having sex with Madelyn when was underaged actually makes more sense to me, at least she was from a large metropolitan city (charlotte) where musicians tour more often.
The music video thing has never made sense to me because as a minor, she would need the signature of parents and a chaperone to go do his video in LA, so what would be the point?
I don't think he is a pedo or even an hebephile. I think he sucks, he is a whackjob and a creep, but I think he is simply trying to recreate his relationship with ERW in these girls and she was 18 when they met. Which is gross and says nothing good about him, but is legal. He is clearly either trying to recreate Dita or trying to recreate ERW in all his relationships in the last 10+ years, except Lindsay. In soviet russia, Lindsay recreates YOU.
No. 1115661
>>1115533No he wouldn’t be dead by now. But he did get an STD in the summer of 2017. Maybe it is AIDS and that’s why Lindsay has been the only woman he’s been seen with since 2018; hence, why he married her.
>>1115177 And here it is… the slut’s Christmas IG story pathetically showing off
as anons predicted.
>>1113995This is the cringiest shit. I hate fake bitches like her. “Look at me, look at me!” “what a perfect life I have!” while these two fucking low-life pieces of shit think they can fuck over other people. Hang yourself, fucking bitch.
Right… he “loves his wife” that’s why they have a sick open relationship and he fucks around on her.
>>1113523 No. 1115664
>>1115641There aren't any laws about sending sexually explicit messages to minors in the United States. It's only illegal if he met up with her before she was 18 or sent/received nude pictures, which I doubt he did because he knew he could've gotten
in trouble. If he really did pretend to be 16, that is illegal.
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>>1115692Sexual videos were sent.
No. 1115705
>>1115700But we still don't know if that video was sent before or after she turned 18. Him having sex with her was obviously wrong because teenagers aren't fully capable of consenting, but I don't think he did anything illegal with her.
And I thought she said that they met when he messaged her and pretended to be underage? She keeps changing her story.
No. 1115709
>>1115705You don’t know if that video was sent before or after she tuned 18 and you’re sure he did nothing illegal? You contradict yourself, we can’t know for sure. Based on the dates it’s
very close and according to Lilith it was sexual from the beginning.
No. 1115725
>>1115709I didn't mean that he's completely innocent in whatever situation went on with Lilith. He shouldn't have had sex with her, even when she was legally able to consent because she was still too young, but I don't think he did anything illegal with her because he waited until she was 18 to meet her. And I didn't say I was, “sure he did nothing illegal.”
>>1115714They
>>1115712 aren't OP.
No. 1115732
>>1115725My comment was intended for that comment, I don’t know who is OP.
>I don't think he did anything illegal
>And I didn't say I was, “sure he did nothing illegal.”I don’t see much of a difference but whatever, last post arguing about this.
No. 1115816
>>1115714There are two anons arguing with you.
Where do you get the idea that I'm trying to defend him? also how the fuck do I "discredit" her when she literally has never accused him of anything, still simps for him to this day and posts all the time about how wonderful he was lmao. Please integrate and read Lilith's old threads and the old soundclout/layla shapiro threads. She is not a a reliable narrator AT ALL, just like Madelyn. Since it's a known fact he doesn't speak to her anymore , it's reasonable to assume her impression of him is embellished to kiss up to him public, in the last 1-2 years she lost a lot of friends and clout and he was her most high-profile social connection.
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I know we're trying to ignore Madelyn, but her making fun of Lindsay for having so much work done when her lips literally look like they're about to pop is it's own brand of funny. It's so strange to me that he's apparently obsessed with his partner's appearance, then he can go sleep with women that look like this. She's one of the most disgusting women that I've ever had the displeasure of looking at, up there with Lindsay and Clare. She looks clean in most of her photoshoots, but she always looks like she hasn't showered in days whenever she posts spontaneous selfies.
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>>1116434Which one are you talking about? Either way, it's pretty obvious if you look for older pictures of them. Both of them have lip injections and Botox. Plus, Lindsay had an eyelid-lift a few years ago and Madelyn has breast implants (according to @_noname666_).
I think one of the reasons that Lindsay looks so bad now is because goth doesn't suit her. I mean, she was ugly before, but being starch white just shows off her blemishes, not to mention the lipstick and fried hair. Madelyn wouldn't look so bad either if she didn't cake on so much foundation and washed her hair once in a while. I don't understand how he was ever attracted to either of them.
No. 1116479
>>1116459I guess not many people here want to read this, but I think it would be great if Manson got back together with Dita. But I doubt that will happen. I like her, she has style, charisma, beauty, business, everything Lindsay doesn't have. The current "Mrs. Warner" loses to absolutely every woman he has ever been spotted with. What I also find interesting, if this so overwhelmingly happy relationship has lasted for 10 years, as she always wants to make believe on IG, then why has he kept dating various other women? Googling sometimes helps, but the IG community is apparently resistant to that and kisses her ass.
No. 1116489
>>1116479What is wrong with you??? HE ABUSED WOMEN, hadn't Dita had guts to leave, she would have probably been raped and tortured just like ERW and Esmé.
Goddamn fucking fangirls everywhere.
These threads are to show that Manson and his orbiters, including Lindsay, are pieces of shit who must be kept in prison..
This is not a place to whine about why Lindsay is not as iconic as Dita (who's also a very questionable persona).
Manson wouldn't fuck you anyway.
I can't believe there are anons like you. Didn't you read the threads? Not a single woman will or would be happy and safe with him. He's basically human scum.
Ready to get banned for losing my shit.
No. 1116492
>>1116490Samefag
>>1116488 why did you delete? I think it's the second time I see somebody posted very similar to my opinion almost simultaneously with me, and then the post gets deleted.
No. 1116493
>>1116479You’re right, nobody wants to read this. He isn’t getting back with Dita. He’s married to Lindsay, and Dita would never support his cheating & pedophile lifestyle like Lindsay.
> What I also find interesting, if this so overwhelmingly happy relationship has lasted for 10 years, as she always wants to make believe on IG, then why has he kept dating various other women? Because she lets him be with other woman, and apparently they have some disgusting open relationship.
If that anon in the other thread was really an “ex”, she said him and Lindsay play some sick game with other girls together.
From observation… before I even heard that, I was even thinking it was something like that myself.
That’s all Dita has is her “beauty” & “business” —superficial shit. Her personality is probably dull and she doesn’t have any depth to her.
No. 1116495
>>1116489Just shut the fuck up, Dawn. You have no proof and only show your pathological hatred for Manson. You have reached the lower limit of ridiculousness, you can only lash out in despair when you read other opinions.
You suck!
No. 1116507
>>1116495I am not Dawn lol. I would have never thought I can be mistaken for a native speaker but ok, there you go.
Tell me where I am wrong in my post.
No. 1116629
I'm OP:
>>1116459 All I meant was that Dita has a shitty personality too (per @mansonisabusive's messages with Amie Harwick—they're in one of the other threads if you haven't seen them). She's obviously done well for herself and she's an amazing businesswoman, but she's definitely not this great person everyone seems to think she is.
No. 1116740
>>1116629That's why she became friends with him again. For media attention.
And that's also why she won't say anything negative about him now.
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Damn he's probably got cirrhosis or wtf with him
No. 1116795
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>>1116790Lmao more like dementia?
Ngl I would be drunk 24/7 too. Just look at them.
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> Don't ever do drugs.
I love the way she taunts them in her captions lmao.
No. 1117183
>>1117024I'll just hope it's not schizophrenic we.
>>1117170Whoever advised him wear this T-shirt must be fired lmao.
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>>1117170Honestly, this is the funniest shit ever. Lindsay is 100% Kathy Bates. I stg he’s currently strapped down to an at-home hospital bed, under heavy sedation, so she can wheel him out for a photo op later. I’m living for this.
No. 1117352
>>1117235Ok wow so all the people on yt were wrong, he doesn't even mention Evan.
Thank you!
No. 1117506
>>1117430Because "art imitates life" applies here in that she has been accused of crying wolf. This role, if I had done it would - at the very least- make me cringe, looking back.
Does that make sense to you?
>>1117452I think I got it
No. 1117515
>>1117506I don't think any of her jobs make her cringe. They were just jobs.
Her relationship with Manson is probably the only thing she regrets.
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he's seriously using his mugshot to promote merch
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>>1117586I think a lot of his teen fans are still holding out that they can unearth this version of him from the early 90s, buried under all the fat or something lol. He used to be decent looking in trailer park, Lana del Ray kind of way
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how vain does someone have to be to have 2 separate ppl draw them
No. 1118450
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She's still interacting with hate accounts. There's no way she doesn't know about what they do, especially since she follows the account that they messaged + she still follows @oatmealosbourne.
No. 1118454
>>1118433I don’t what you mean. I’ve only read what she posted in the threads. She didn’t start posting until I think July, in the third thread, and said she only found out about the allegations sometime at the beginning of the year.
She does have a case if he legit tried to make allegations that weren’t true. That’s real serious shit.
No. 1118552
>>1118503I really don’t know. She did post some search warrant, but it’s possible she could’ve got it off Google.
She really is insane if she went to such lengths, & saying Manson made allegations on her if he didn’t.
The only thing that has me question that maybe he did, is that she posts about it on her real account.
No. 1118565
>>1118552Just because she posted about it on IG doesn't mean that it's real. Maybe she actually does think he made false allegations against her, but the stuff she's posted about it makes no sense and she's always changing her story. First, she said he stole one of her captions, then she accused him of using fake accounts to solicit minors, and now she thinks he's making false allegations against her. And she just expects everyone to believe her without posting any real proof. All she's doing is discrediting real
victims.
No. 1118616
>>1118576Yeah… that’s true irony right there. A criminal going to the cops accusing someone else of being a criminal. Especially with abuse accusations out there in the media about him. If he did though…. that was a stupid stupid move.
> Just because she posted about it on IG doesn't mean that it's real.No- but doesn’t seem logical someone doing that, unless they really are nutso.
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from a post on her old account, @lindsay.usich.
No. 1118708
>>1118673So, he married a “fan?” Then it’s definitely true that he finds and meets women on social media.
Looks as though he found the “one” who is as much of a low-life loser as him.
I don’t remember where I read this -it might’ve been posted somewhere in these threads, but there was an article where he was talking about a woman he met from MySpace and said she was a psychopath and that he shouldn’t have used his real name. That had to have been Lindsay he was referring to.
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>>1118849
Okay this is what I can remember but here goes:
I agree she was pretty and had interesting taste in movie and literature compared to most SG models but her personality and own output was incredbily cringey and that was my point of reference for this. Had she been doing was she was doing now she would a top cow on here. At some point she was taking drugs that made her completely nuts and paranoid, she started thinking everyone from lady gaga to Mosh to random egirls on tumblr, alt models that tried to work with photographers she had worked with were ripping off her unique, never before seen style. It was during that period that Manson contacted her. He appeared in her top8 and I even vaguely remember him leaving comments under her photos. Then he disappeared and she wrote a long blog about how he contacted her on myspace, saying everyone in LA was sending him her photos and tell him to contact her (under the impression to use her as model for a video or muse or something). He took her out to dinner and they hung out when he was in europe, she claims he told her he just got divorced and was "auditioning" another girl to be his girlfriend (ERW) but he preferred her and would pay her to move to LA but she turned him down because she had some skinhead boyfriend she didn't want to leave for him. I remember it ended with a rant on ERW calling her a "mongloid retard" and I think saying something nasty about stoya too before accusing Manson of ripping off her (NRB) in something, some shitty myspace photo cover or something. That's all I remember. She was active for maybe a year tops after that before wisely leaving the internet forever.
As much as I dearly wished I could find her old blog post on waybackmachine and bring a milkmas miracle, I couldn't find it, here are some fragments of her profile and her in manson's Top8 on myspace. She reminds me of a less stupid Lindsay with ERW's face : rich girl NEET doing drugs and "alt" art, no IRL friends, milky/edgy af, contacted on myspace to maybe do a creative collab, typical Manson chick. Wild this happened in 2009 lol.
No. 1118949
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>>1118947Her in Manson's top8 circa 2009
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>>1118949Manson in her top8 vs the dude she actually wanted to date (top right)
No. 1118987
>>1118947Thank you so much anon. I have never read anything close to your post before. It's probably not so milky rn but the potential is huge.
That girl was lucky to escape from him.
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>>1118947>was "auditioning" another girl to be his girlfriendI remember reading he “auditioned” women on an old gossip site, this was around the Stoya/Nana time.
https://www.voy.com/85692/6/7579.html No. 1119006
>>1118950She actually moved to Amsterdam for the top left dude. That's when I noticed how incoherent and paranoid her postings had become.
I like to think she would have been a little too genuinely nuts at the time for MM's Floridian carcass if they actually hooked up.
No. 1119011
>>1119006Sorry I am legit dyslexic. Yes you are correct. He still runs his art website at drtenge.com, he seems like a solid dude.
>>1119008She escaped the internet and purged everything years ago but I still have many memories I can post, IDK if it's appropraite for this thread tho.
No. 1119017
>>1119008A lot of it is lost to time, I think she deleted most everything when she went "normie."
She still gets brought up here on lolcow infrequently and anons will jump in with memories and fragments still available on google image.
tl;dr she was a popular Suicide Girl but her photosets tended to keep to a gross sexually assaulted minor theme. Someone noticed she had slipped an SS pin (people claimed it was a genuine article, not a replica idk) on a hat into one of the sets, Suicide Girls denounced her and she became infamous for a while.
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>>1119017samefag but this is right up front on google images as I type. People took some striking pictures of her outside of the Suicide Girls bullshit, but a lot of it was just needlessly provocative.
Probably what MM saw in her.
No. 1119033
>>1119024Lmao anon your image title, I'm dying
from the waybackarchive of her myspace re: the infamous rape set that got her banned:
"Plus, I was wearing an SS pin. Well, they lurked in all my possible net versions to get to understand my connections with the NeoNazi movement.
No matter if I tried to explain the meaning I give to the nazism, the allegoric references I put in it, the fact it symbolizes The Beast Of Prey to myself, where the Prey incredibly supports the Beast (and this might make us think about our own strange nature as humans…)
No matter, they just screamed "Yuck yuck a nazi girl!"
Shallow… :)
My set stayed up for no more than 24 hours and then, as many other SGs went like "ohhh my goood I feel so hurted by this set, I have been raped and this set is hurting my sensibility" and so on (fundamentally they played the role of the offended ones as they became a herd/a flock of sheeps, and many of them just started whining close to the sheep who had its reasons (?) to whine because of her past experiences) wanted me to leave the site as nobody fucking cares about most of them there… "a popular girl less").
Enjoy censorship once more .
I'm not angry - I know I will ever have to fight censorhip if I want to express myself in my life. I've learned the lesson, a lesson I actually knew I would learn on my skin as even Christ did, knowing it all from the beginning but not really expecting it till the very end. I expected it since last early spring. And I've always been coherent. Go read at least the first 2 parts of this interview. It's in italian ok, but wordreference.com will give a great help to all of you who want to get it.
I won't give up."
This is gonna be my last post on her tho unless other anon ask, because I don't want a ban for derailing lol
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kek at how "classy" she is lmao
No. 1119354
>>1119286Why would you expect class? She’s the usual disgusting and trashy type of classless whore that he’s with.
Rose and Evan were probably the only women he’s ever been with that weren’t.
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>>1119444Look at how ugly the both of them are. Fucking
gag! Two sick piece of shit whores that look like they got herpes & HIV.
This was her pre-plastic surgery. Her ugly ass has had A LOT of work done.
Also, I don’t know about you, but when someone is inwardly ugly, they appear physically ugly to me as well.
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>>1119453She’s for sure ugly. She looks like a Sandra Bernhard look alike.
If Manson is so obsessed with appearance, you would think he would do something with his nasty lookin’ ass. His hair looks fuckin’ stupid.
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>>1119444I think it's just that (1) you don't get to see many candid photos of her (2) she used to be average but that cheap Dita style made everything about her worse.
I made two collages. The first is 2011-2016, you see in the pic with 2011 she looks exactly like her sister. You can tell they are twins without a doubt. It's true she was never beautiful but she was kind of okay.
Now she's botched and looks like she's pushing her late forties. And the contrast between candid and Instagram is insane.
Another big miss of her is that she never worked out her body. She was a jelly even in her twenties which is yikes.
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Someone attempted to hack LKB's Facebook on Dec. 24. I'd love to remind that all shading Manson messages she wrote via her FB, and let's not forget she reposted Edwin's Generation's story about Manson.
AND
Edwin's Twitter got hacked today.
A coincidence or consequences?
No. 1119494
>>1119488samefag
I forgot about the timeline.
It's her candid and Instagram 2018-2020.
No. 1119507
>>1119503lol whut?
do you get it you are on lolcow?
tell me you think he wore that t-shirt because he loves her so much
>>1117170 so I could laugh harder
No. 1119519
>>1119507Yeah I do get it. Do you? Where’s proof? Show caps of these alleged “allegations” Lindsay made and that’s why he married her. Because that’s the dumbest fucking shit I have ever heard why someone would literally marry a person. If that was the case he would’ve married her years ago.
No, Manson doesn’t love her. He doesn’t love anyone. He’s incapable of it, because he’s a sick narcissistic fuck.
No. 1119524
>>1119519who said
>“allegations” Lindsay made?you read what you want to read, calm down.
No. 1119549
>>1119491Damn! This is definitely no coincidence! I bet anything Manson got him hacked. They’re also trying to flag Edwin’s video.
This hacking is probably also a method Manson uses to get all these fake accounts.
No. 1119563
>>1119548omg my bad. should have sobered up before posting.
>>1119549it's a coincidence at this point. I posted bc I thought the timing is funny.
No. 1119681
>>1119487She definitely never worked out.
Every feature of her body looks saggy and untrained with a bloated belly.
No. 1119913
>>1119776She posted a photo of herself at like 7 in a ballet tutu once. The ballet meme was big in the 90s, I remember me and all my friends did childrens ballet as well, but no one was good enough to even seriously consider doing it past 10-11 and I would never say I was a ballerina.
I think it's just part of her Dita skinwalking; she actually did study ballet professionally, but also weird gothy hipster chicks have a ballet fetish. I have never understood it but I've noticed a pattern over the years.
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>>1119563I totally disagree. Edwin also put in his story that this Red Russian Hurricane account sent him a DM. Then a few hours later his account is getting hacked. No I don’t think that is any coincidence.
That account also made a post saying Edwin is committing a crime. What a fucking idiot. These people don’t understand freedom of speech.
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>>1120009The guy that hacked Edwin - I’m starting to think definitely has something to do with Manson.
I’m seeing tweets of people saying that guy is racist and he apparently he was saying the “n” word, and also Edwin’s account is being retweeted by gay porn.
Ok. There is no coincidence going on here:
1) Manson is a racist
2) Dawn has talked about him being under a gay porn account(s) and a racist porn account.
These porn accounts also tweet about incest with other relatives, like sons and fathers. I seriously wanna a puke. Manson is on a whole other fucked up level of fucked up. Did he want have sex with his own father?
No. 1120064
>>1120048If he does have a porn account, I would say it’s no big deal, but this is just really really sick stuff!!!
>>1120009This must be the allegations Dawn keeps talking about that Manson made on her.
No. 1120946
>>1120743Not true unfortunately.
People look for porn that equals their sexual preferences. Porn doesn't make criminals, the criminal potential is already there.
No. 1121540
>>1120946No, not to people who watch it moderately, but when someone developes an unhealthy addiction to porn it’s a known fact that it re-wires the brain just like drugs.
It seems Manson’s addiction first began by his warped grandfather, and then Manson became just like him.
> And there aren't any laws on “obscene” porn in the United StatesYes, actually there is. It violates the federal obscenity laws. Why the government isn’t enforcing it, I do not know.
No. 1121602
>>1121576Also on that note:
Manson, or any of these other idiots don’t have any right saying people like Edwin are committing “crimes”.
>>1120009He’s protected by the first amendment, even if people do say derogatory or hateful things.
What the first amendment doesn’t protect is if people are threatening violence and making death threats.
No. 1121639
>>1121631I agree 100%. Those morons on those accounts that are making those accusations literally have a below average IQ.
But let Manson falsely accuse and go after someone for slander and he’ll see what’ll happen.
No. 1122492
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@oatmealosbourne is still hung up on the allegations against them That's one of their other accounts. It's funnier than it should be that they're so obsessed over 2 washed-up junkies that aren't even aware of their existence.
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>>1122563
They almost remind me of the candy bracelets they sell at gas stations. It doesn't seem like either of them are really invested in their business, honestly. If they were, they wouldn't have tried to sell whatever this is.
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A list of all of oatmeal's accounts that I could find. There are probably many more.
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He looks drugged-up as usual.
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Completely off topic, but a while ago someone made a post about a new private account that popped up on IG around a week ago (@whoresarealwayssomethingtofear) because whoever runs that account is obviously somehow connected to the Manson drama. Anyway, they posted this old photo of Lindsay earlier and it seems to be a private file. I went through Lindsay's old LiveJournal, her Tumblr, fans' posts, and all of the IG accounts she abandoned years ago and I can't find it anywhere else. Also, there was a comment underneath one of their earlier posts, accusing them of being Lindsay (by one of Madelyn's alleged accounts, but I think she might be over Manson or she's at least pretending to be because there was no, “Happy birthday, my monster,” post this year). I'm only mentioning it because I thought the account might actually belong to Manson/Lindsay or someone affiliated with them.
No. 1123817
>>1123669Is she sure that movie is a good reference?
Manson is so fucked up. He was borderline okay just a few years ago.
>>1123773Isn't it Ashley? Lindsay has tattoos on her arms.
>>1123802Idk for real but I bet they were threatened. Probably by fans aka Lindsay asked fans.
>>1123695LMAO
No. 1123857
>>1123841I remember seeing a screencap from her story being passed around by fan accounts where she said both Norm and Manson tattooed her fingers.
>>1123802It's been forever since I've seen a fan account make a hate post about Lindsay. I don't ever remember seeing @marilynmansonnews harass her or anything though. There were the sort of passive aggressive posts they made about her collaboration with that perfume brand, but nothing extensive. She follows them now and likes almost all of their posts, so I don't think anything's going on between them now. But it definitely wouldn't be out of the ordinary for her to tell them to stop or to get fans to message them.
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For those wondering who the mysterious @lilacs20 is, it’s Courtney. Remember how this account had no pp? It does now. It seems as though Manson outed her accidentally this morning. She wished him a happy birthday from the account, and he shared it. Later deleted and replaced with this one from the official Courtney Love account. I didn’t cap it this morning cause I was sure one you anons would have been hot on it, but no.
1/2
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>>1123902Here’s her private.
No. 1123914
>>1123902>>1123832Her fingers were done by Normloveletters(?), who passed away a couple of years ago.
I don't think it's Lindsay, the haircut is something Ashley would have.
>>1123902That's really interesting, thank you!
No. 1123922
>>1123880Whoever runs that account is lurking here. So…
… c'mon, dude, join us and share your milk kek.
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>>1123902Here ya go, anon.
>>1123880I noticed MIB follows that account too.
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>>1123861Here are pictures from 2005 when they "modeled" for American Apparel. There's her ugly flower tattoo and the weird one on her chest.
Just believe me when I say stuff. I'm usually right.
No. 1124201
>>1123926She's been outing herself for days n weeks now. Responding to comments with her private account etc. Don't think it was ever meant to be a secret.
Just shocking how she keeps defending M under her birthday post with her private account.
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No. 1124686
>>1124511Exactly anon. IIRC she ditched the tour for that very reason.
All these people are dumpster fires.
No. 1124770
>>1124511Agree, I don’t understand how Manson “rescued her from addiction” when he himself is a junkie. Last year Manson said in an interview they were “tentatively friends” and said this: “We've always been weird with each other, because she's slept with pretty much every one of my friends, supposedly. Not me, though.'
Adding passive aggressively: 'She, one time, told me she was mad at me because I didn't want to f— her and I was smarter than her. I said, "Well, you kind of proved your own point right there on that one."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7857631/Marilyn-Manson-says-tentatively-friends-rocker-Courtney-Love-following-feud.htmlTinfoil but it’s like Manson asked her to say something nice about him or something.
No. 1124791
>>1124770It’s good for business if Courtney sticks up for Manson.
Manson and Courtney are represented by the same booking company (bookingentertainment.com)
and probably have other business ties that someone smarter than me can figure out.
No. 1124837
>>1124821That’s a given, Courtney has a lot of skeletons. Even
if her defense is genuine, she’s never slept with him, never been in a relationship with him, and is not privy to what goes on behind closed doors. Narcissists are notorious for being charming to everyone but their
victims, Evan even stated that in her testimony.
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Reddit find.
No. 1124929
>>1124928Samefag
I got it.
His housemate is Rudy Coby. He supported Evan, right?
No. 1125137
>>1123773I saw that account. It’s private. “whoresaresomethingtofear”- that name tho is hilarious, and that person also puts in their bio as “Madelyn” for their name, lmao.
They also follow Miss Danger. So weird. I think they might be associated with Manson too.
>>1123880That hair in this pic kinda looks like the hair of who was posting fake pics of some chick on that palliatian.elixir account.
I don’t know for sure what’s going on, but it looks like this woman was/is helping Manson do sketchy shit.
No. 1125245
>>1125137>>1123773I thought maybe that account is Madelyn. It’s most likely not, but she does have other fake accounts. Then lies about it. Cats and devils is 100% her which she used to spread hate about Lindsay, and also Mansonisinnocent to spread hate on Evan. Which bitch, don’t lie about it and be a hypocrite.
>I think she might be over Manson or she's at least pretending to be Omg I would hope so! Seriously, how fucking dumb is she?! Regardless of whatever the situation is between Lindsay & Manson… it’s like hoe he’s still fucking Lindsay! And IS married!
> I noticed MIB follows that account tooOh wow… they’re definitely mixed up with the Manson drama.
>>1123958THIS! It’s also fucking lame. What does that bitch think? Real life is some movie? Might seem cute now, but wait till one of them actually goes to prison. Then see how cute she thinks it is.
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>>1124928>>1124911Looks like a shady place.
No. 1125282
>>1123905So even Manson’s friends use fake accounts too. Interesting.
>>1124201And anons here trying to say Manson doesn’t have one. Yeah, okay….
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>>1125137There's this other photography account, @bornfromtheflowers (reminiscent of Lindsay's old Tumblr/LiveJournal username, @bornfromthedirt). They have the same link in their bio, plus they posted the same watercolor painting of Lindsay. But the accounts are complete parallels. They defend Manson and the other account, @whoresarealwayssomethingtofear, just seems like a parody account.
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>>1125137Yes, it seems Manson has quite a few woman that “help” him.
>>1123880There’s a woman by the name of Michelle that does something for him. She works for Oprah.
Manson was saying a bunch of weird shit about Oprah in this DM, and talking about how he knows her. Which now makes sense why he brought her up in those messages on the @palliatian.elixir account, and has deleted most of the conversation, except for this.
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>>1125391He also has his homeboy Shane helping him, and now trying to cover for him and think he could pull one over. How fucking stupid does Manson think people are?
No. 1125404
>>1125391>>1125400Manson never said that he knew Oprah. The fan that owns that account said there was someone in the background of the picture he posted that looked like Oprah. And that's not how he types and he wouldn't have a reason to disguise his writing style because no one would suspect it was him.
If you did know Manson on some scale, why did you keep talking to him after he did whatever you're accusing him of? You could've just blocked his number and made your accounts private.
No. 1125426
>>1125404Oh, you mean the “fake” fan account. Since he deleted most of those messages, I don’t remember, but I’m pretty sure when he was typing in third person that he said, “Manson knows Oprah.” And also saying a bunch of other shit like “Manson fucked Oprah”.
Manson seems to have 3 typing styles: incoherent, imbecile, and articulate.
As far as I knew at the time, I didn’t talk to him., and I didn’t know that palliatian account was associated with him.
When I was contacted via text that was a year later out of the blue and I wanted to know why he made those BS allegations.
No. 1125482
>>1125471Manson recently commented one of his posts on ig, old one, and Rudy was more than friendly with him. His support of Evan is questionable now, imo.
Unfortunately, I can't post caps rn.
No. 1125489
>>1125482I see the comment now, it seems more like Manson sucked up to him and he responded “thanks brother.”
https://www.instagram.com/p/3rWM-sKW5t/?igshid=w90l8rkyfhd2I know Manson started following him after he retweeted Evan’s testimony.
>>1050262 Why would he support Evan for years and suddenly change his tune? That doesn’t make sense. Manson probably knows he’s fucked if Rudy made a statement against him.
No. 1125491
>>1125489Yeah that one.
Sorry I couldn't post caps and you had to search for it.
The timings are as you said, maybe I am bad at men's language but isn't "brother" too much to call someone who you believe abused your friend or someone you support?
No. 1125493
>>1125489And yeah, it's obvious Manson has been searching for allies and contacting people who witnessed his
abusive behavior and could say a bad word about him. It's like he's checking "r u on my side?".
Pathetic. I wonder what people who know him irl think about it.
No. 1125503
>>1125491“Brother” can be slang like “thanks, man.”
I guess he could have ignored the comment but what else do you say in that situation.
No. 1125506
>>1125503Agreed then.
Thanks for clarification.
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That's what I meant.
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Lindsay liked one of his posts too. They're networking. But I don't understand why he thinks it's important to have Rudy on his side. He's relatively unknown with a small following. Nothing he said about M would get much media attention unless he had hard evidence against him.
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>>1125599Interesting, he doesn’t come up in the likes for me. Can another anon check, please?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJqnIoeJ9qZ/?igshid=1gk1tx7h1m2ma>>1125726Rudy was his housemate when he dated Evan. If he firsthand witnessed the abuse and made a statement that would not be good for Manson. His IG following is irrelevant, a statement would get attention.
No. 1125809
>>1125770It's not showing for me either. He must've unliked it.
I wasn't talking about his Instagram following. I meant fan-wise. He's hardly a well-known celebrity. Most people wouldn't believe him if he made a statement without any proof to support his claims, even if they were roommates. And Manson fans are notorious for harassing people that accuse him of anything. He has no good reason to bring up the allegations against him.
No. 1125818
>>1120009Sorry for necro respond, I am catching up with the thread.
That account is hilarious, I mean red russian hurricane. I love that #russiaformarilynmanson when she and her autism-mates nearly got banned for shitposting (aka agitation texts and pro-manson propaganda) in the biggest Russian community, now they get bullied every time they post, it is both sad and hopeful to say that a big number of people in the ru community agree it's highly likely that ERW talks about Manson, the best part is that even a few adms think it is him and do not defend him. The translator of one of the communities is actually pro-Evan, and I am gonna assume that some screen caps which mansonisabusive has that are in Russian she got from that translator, I don't know for real but I believe it's close to the truth. The girl documented a lot of the drama with Gabriella & Lindsay & Clare & Titti & Courtlyn Cannon, now many of her posts are gone, I think they deleted them when she became an adm.
I talked to red russian hurricane's brother from two fakes (don't ask me anything about it lol) and I can say that their idea of what's happening has changed twice, from
everybody is lying, his exes are jealous cause he got married to Lindsay, they are so cute together uwu to
manson is in trouble, they all are trying to get attention and help their careers by ruining his career, and Lindsay is a bad person too, a manipulator, "look! she is copying Dita!", etc, etc.What's important is that it is 100% they get everything they know or claim to know from Leslee Lane who's been brought up already. She's like the headquarters who talks to Lindsay and gets orders from her, as far as I understood Manson is never literally involved, he doesn't talk to fans, Lindsay is somewhat a manager of hate accounts, she feeds them information and tells them what to do and what not to do. I can't help laughing because they really dislike Lindsay but keep licking her ass, thinking they can do something good for Manson.
I am sorry I cannot post any caps, first of all they are in Russian anyway, and second, I don't want my fakes to be in the spotlight, if they read the thread (and I think they do). I am sure I am one of the many people who messaged them so I feel safe posting what's above.
Now I have only one question: did anybody go to check Leslee's discord? It could be tasty.
No. 1125820
>>1125809That must have been a quick like and unlike, I follow Rudy and Rob Zombie and never saw it.
>Most people wouldn't believe him if he made a statement without any proof to support his claims, even if they were roommates.That’s a lot of assumptions, we don’t know if he has proof. Since they lived together it wouldn’t be far fetched if he did.
No. 1125843
>>1125818Did they send any caps from their conversations with Lindsay?
If they read the thread, it's probably not a good idea for anyone to join Leslee's server unless they used a fake or posed as a fan.
No. 1126302
>>1125820>>1125809For some reason it won’t always show up when you type the name if you want to check names on a post or following. I followed that Rudy guy and it still shows up that he liked this post.
>>1125599 Just because he retweeted Evan’s tweet doesn’t necessarily mean he is pinpointing it to Manson, unless he has specifically said. But you do have to be a complete idiot not to know she is talking about Manson in her testimony.
> manson is in trouble, >Lindsay is a bad person too, a manipulator, "look! she is copying Dita!", etc, etc.>>>1125818You got two things right in this post: Manson is in trouble, and about Lindsay. I’m sure she’s involved with what he does and is just as sick and corrupt. I would highly recommend that people don’t associate that Leslee Lane person.
No. 1126386
>>1125818> they all are trying to get attention and help their careers by ruining his career, Manson ruined his own career by being a fraudulent disgusting piece of shit. It’s called karma catching up with him.
But rather than taking accountability and getting help for himself, he lies and tries to cover up.
No. 1126460
>>1126302His like doesn’t show up for me or my friends either but I guess IG can be wonky.
> Just because he retweeted Evan’s tweet doesn’t necessarily mean he is pinpointing it to Manson, unless he has specifically said. But you do have to be a complete idiot not to know she is talking about Manson in her testimony. Not trying to be rude but your point is it can be anyone but obviously it’s Manson? Evan hasn’t named him (yet), I doubt he would pinpoint Manson unless she does first.
No. 1126545
>>1126513OP here
>>1126460I’m in complete agreement, obviously it’s not Jamie Bell. They share custody of her child, if he was that
abusive I really doubt Evan or the courts would let that happen.
https://www.moms.com/how-evan-rachel-wood-jamie-bell-co-parenting-their-son/I didn’t understand what
>>1126302 means by not pinpointing Manson. Evan and Esme pretty much spelled it out it’s Manson.
No. 1126626
>>1125493Has he been searching for allies?
The people he follows on Instagram are defiantly different and more proper than before. It’s most celebrities now and peeps in the industry.
I noticed an Annie chick he followed which seems his type to a T but it was right after he followed JJ Abraham’s and it says she does public relations so in think it’s also business.
I fall off the wagon for a while and came back to posts he makes just for promo things and its all colored in a professional way.
He used to be more lax about this sorta stuff and I think now only the follows are allowed to comment???
If he wants to make it more obvious he’s guilty he’s doing it now by restricting comments lmfao but good thing he’s associating himself more with the industry people now bc it means that he’s staying away from poor young impressionable girls.
There’s good in everything I guess
No. 1126643
>>1126626I don’t look at his account. I get disgusted even looking at him.
> it means that he’s staying away from poor young impressionable girls.No it doesn’t , that’s what his
fake accounts are for.
>>1126545Well I know that it does… and anyone with a brain does… It just seems really odd and doesn’t make sense why that Rudy guy would retweet Evan’s testimony, and is now liking that birthday post about Manson.
No. 1126651
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>>1126626If you're talking about this girl I followed her months ago but she blocked the whole lot of us a couple of weeks ago and I think she went through a purge so I cant see her posts anymore.I took screen shots of what he liked up to then. Its interested he never liked her Times Up stuff because she's involved with her studio with them.But it's also interesting he liked some of this stuff even though its a private profile for no one to see so its not publicity for him actually. If anyone else managed to stay a follower I'd really like to know if there's more. Im more curious about the private profiles he follows than the rumored accounts he made and I do think he makes them tbh but it's hard to prove for sure
No. 1126652
>>1126643>It just seems really odd and doesn’t make sense why that Rudy guy would retweet Evan’s testimony, and is now liking that birthday post about Manson.Maybe he’s friends with Zombie, maybe Manson threatened him, maybe he doesn’t want to get involved anymore. I don’t know. Rudy has liked and retweeted support for Evan since her testimony in 2018, fans have talked about it often. Liking a single Zombie post (and apparently unliking it) pertaining to Manson’s birthday doesn’t convince me he’s suddenly on Manson’s side. He’s shown more support for Evan.
>>1126626I agree his account has become pretty sterile in the last year but anons have posted caps of him trying to make friends with Rose McGowan before she told him to piss off. It’s obvious he’s trying to present a squeaky clean image now.
No. 1126655
>>1126654K but if I was a
victim and a friend supported me but then liked stuff posted by my abuser, I'd be pissed.
No. 1126707
>>1126626Do I misunderstand your question or you mean he has NOT been trying to be friendly with people who could potentially put him in trouble if they spoke out about their experience around him and his
victims?
It's not about the people he follows, it's about the comments he leaves.
He tried to be friendly with Rose like anons said. Then he went to John 5, in the comments again, now it's Rudy Coby.
Who knows whom else he messaged to recently or not recently, many of what he does remains unknown for anons.
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>>1126683idk but I'll post all I got. She removed me just after christmas so I can't see anything else but I wonder if anyone else can. So here goes all I got.
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>>1126683And the very last he didn't like. So the posts I noticed he never liked are the ones about MeToo, Times Up and posts that support him and his career. The album one was even liked by the official bowie account but not Marilyn. I kinda felt bad.
No. 1126722
>>1126719Right? I feel bad. I’m curious but I feel bad coz her profile is privaté.
Appreciate it though anon only cause it gives some insight to his non public friends and interests. I’m trying to be real and even though I want justice to be served for breakfast for him I still like to see the behind the scenes. Didn’t expect him to like some of those but I guess you do that with friends but it’s rude he didn’t like the one about him cause it’s unrespectful. Did she ever post about him befor or after?
No. 1126730
>>1126728Evan was Jewish too right? I dont think hes antisemitic necessarily ? She worked on Lovecraft Country and they used a lot of his music. Like four songs. So maybe thats the connection?
>>1126719Fair enough. I thought I'd provide some insight but sorry if this is nonsense. I was just curious if anyone else is able to see her posts still. I'm curious because it isn't the norm behavior for him right?
No. 1126741
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He follows a ton of private accounts.
No. 1126765
>>1126763If someone is not attractive enough, he'll just drink more vodka or do more drugs, c'mon. One doesn't have to be attractive to go to bed with him.
>>1126730I am fine with these posts, I was worried I missed something about that girl.
We don't have anything else to discuss now, who knows, maybe digging his follows might be productive.
No. 1126766
>>1126765“ If someone is not attractive enough, he'll just drink more vodka or do more drugs, c'mon”
Like his wife? Lmao Lindsay is so basic. This MeToo chick should run far and away if he’s hunting. Hard to believe he’d have real female friends
No. 1126779
>>1126775I used to draw swastika just for fun, out of boredom in school. I am not a nazi or a fascist.
Manson is just a stereotypical southerner.
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>>1126768lmao I kinda find her Evan-y tbh. But this is the only photo of her I saved because he liked and then unliked it so I sent it to a friend i know from reddit & discord. my friend was blocked too.
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Interesting.
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Why she always kissing Ditas ass lmao wtf. I’m convince she wants to clam jam her as well.
No. 1127441
>>1126797I think he’s afraid of anything more complex and intelligent than a bimbo. Even if they’re intelligent they need to be subservient or he’s out. It’s curious someone associated w/ times up would be friends with him though.
And that narcissisti related Instagram is something Evan mentions a lot in her stories. Been following her for years
No. 1127448
>>1126651I’m guessing the private profiles are probably just more of his friends that have them, like Courtney Love -or maybe bimbos he met off of one of his fake accounts.
>>1126990Manson definitely must’ve messaged that guy blowing smoke up his ass, like he was trying to do with Rose.
>>1126686This explains why he’s into that sick incest shit. The real reason he writes sick songs like that is because he’s a pedophile himself and actually does want to promote child molestation, and his abominable behavior proves that. Of course he’s not going to publicly admit why he writes songs like that, so he tries to disguise it as something else.
No. 1127452
>>1127448>This explains why he’s into that sick incest shit. The real reason he writes sick songs like that is because he’s a pedophile himself and actually does want to promote child molestation, and his abominable behavior proves that.What proof do you have that he's a pedophile, besides his so-called fake accounts? You're making a ton of accusations with no evidence. There are enough allegations against him without you trying to make more. All you're doing is discrediting real
victims.
No. 1127455
>>1127452I’m not discrediting anybody. My situation has nothing to do with anyone else. Lets just leave out about the accounts.
The fact that he’s already dated Evan and that Lilith, does in fact make him a predator.
Other people have also said he was talking to Lilith when she was 17 and he was under an account pretending to be a teenage girl. If he was exchanging sexually explicit stuff with her that’s child pornography.
No. 1127461
>>1127452Someone recently posted a screenshot of an interview where Manson says he's not "for or against" child abuse.
Courtney Love said in the 90s that there were a lot of underage girls backstage.
He makes jokes about child pornography (a tinder for kids called "kinder", the interview on Fleischer's universe,..)
Then he was "friends" with a few children in 2012 or something. Reminded me of the Millie Bobbie Brown/Drake situation.
No. 1127496
>>1125843Unfortunately no. The guy doesn't speak English well, communication mostly goes through his sister as far as I understood. I did my best to talk him into giving me caps but meh, failed, he is a hard person to talk to, not pleasant, I'd say he has a suffocating personality, if there is a way to say it like that in eng.
>If they read the thread, it's probably not a good idea for anyone to join Leslee's server unless they used a fake or posed as a fan.This. I am so pissed at that anon
>>1098300 why didn't you drop caps? given that we know one of their retards came here and tried to lure anons in their dms, it seems like a bait now.
Don't tell me we are gonna have another round of
manson is a pedo followed by
nope he is not. Everyone is gonna keep their opinion anyway.
No. 1127518
>>1127477Honestly, I don't care much about that debate. He's disgusting either way.
But the way he always paints women with childlike features kinda says a lot.
I know that Evan was obsessed with Lolita way before she met Manson and that Manson basically stole that idea from her but the fact that he basically made a whole album about his fascination with that book makes one think..
I mean, he could've tried to groom those kids and failed. We'll never know.
No. 1127526
>>1127518>But the way he always paints women with childlike features kinda says a lotWtf? Have you seen his paintings?
Lolita is too popular and famous to say Manson stole the idea from Evan.
I remember he said he was reading Lolita and Evan decided to wear her Lolita-like glasses for fun, that's how she ended up wearing those glasses in the video.
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>>1127526Yeah, have you seen his paintings?? Lmao
No. 1127740
>>1127528Alice in Wonderland was written by Lewis Caroll. Someone who was obsessed with kids, especially Alice Liddell, who is speculated to be Caroll's inspiration for Alice in Wonderland. She was 10 years old.
Manson tried to make a movie about him called Phantasmagoria.
No. 1127771
>>1127730And? Where do you see childlike features?
>>1127740Unfortunately, Alice in Wonderland is a big thing in the literature world.
I posted to correct anon, cause to say
> he basically made a whole album about his fascination with that book means you know nothing about the album.
I don't want to continue this conversation tbh, I think I am derailing with this post already. Twisting facts just to push the pedo version is funny but doesn't contribute to the thread.
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Saging because it’s not actual milk but Manson just joined the “new MySpace”
No. 1128194
>>1128188To cast new
victims?
No. 1128511
>>1128215Ok.. why are you shitting on Rudy?
That video is from 2012 when they were still friends, Manson even tweeted about it.
>>1037991No caps because I don’t own the book but I’ve read from fans that Manson refers to a “shithead magician” in his Perou book.
>>1037991 Apparently they had a falling out.
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>>1124206I see Manson either unfollowed or was removed from Courtney’s private IG.
No. 1129005
>>1128983Lowkey hope she's done her research and finally found out what's up with Manson but it might as well be coverup action while still supporting him in private.
Her
abusive man and 'saved by Manson' story was such an unbelievable thing, in a "this Courtney Love?" sort of way. Courtney had a love/hate thing with this band, probably because of a mix of jealousy, relationship with Jeordie etc. but also disgust for their groupie lifestyle. I remember the story how she visited Manson's tour bus while some girl fans were there and told them to stop acting like that and better form their own band and in a few years they (MM band) will come to their tourbus begging for attention. I think it comes from Manson's book
Even without very solid proofs of him abusing Evan and Esme there's enough shady things he did/said to reconsider supporting him, people won't forget her that whiteknighting fast
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>>1127477> Having sex with underage girls doesn't make someone a pedophile.Not if there’s only a few years age difference . But this sicko was already in his late thirties -and now fifties. And according to Courtney Love (in an article where she talked about canceling the tour because of it) he’s been doing that since his twenties.
And seems a lot of other people agree that does make him a pedo.
Manson is pathetic. And it’s completely embarrassing, sick, and disgusting to be having relations with minors.
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>> Lilith/Evan's bodies weren't underdeveloped or childish.>>1127477I would say this looks like a child in this unedited full body shot. This childish, midget looking body type is also the same one as that reminds me of her
>>985433>>1127518Why are people glamorizing that Lolita crap? It’s gross and should be banned. I don’t know how that’s not illegal.
No. 1129195
>>1129107Unfortunately nothing will come of it unless an underage
victim charges him.
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>>1129185Omg how did Manson go from Rose & Dita to THAT, and Lindsay?!! Evan did look older, but nonetheless, she was a child compared to him.
No. 1129261
>>1129185That's not unedited. The pictures she posts on her page are always photoshopped. She has a normal waist in real life and she's not short.
It seems like a lot of you have this weird obsession with him being a pedophile when there's no evidence saying that he is. Move on.
No. 1129266
>>1129261I think it's just Dawn again.
Farmhands used to mark her posts, idk why it's different now.
No. 1130802
>>1129261That picture is definitely not edited, and in her pics she looks like that midget height, like a child is.
Bullshit. Don’t say there’s no evidence and defend this sick predator, because there’s evidence posted right in front of you.
No. 1131030
>>1130977Add in all the other factors, e.g., him making a sick comment that there should be a dating app for “sexy kids” and getting arrested in Canada for making another sexual comment about 8th graders.
Also, the lyrics of some of his songs like “Kiddie Grinder”. Then he says in this article he’s not for or against child abuse.
>>1126686 Like
what in the actual fuck?! Any rational, normal thinking adult would say they’re against sexual abuse of children.
It’s not about small statures… it’s about her being 17 or 18, and also looking like a child because she WAS a child.
So add in his sick comments about children, lyrics, and the fact that he’s having relationships with children. Even if Evan and Lilith were 18 I don’t care what’s considered “legal” that’s still a child compared to him, and there’s some serious malfunction. I think that’s a lot of red flags going off. Because normal adult men over the age of 21-25 do not have relations with children.
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>>1129256reaaaaaal interesting development. I posted the screenshots of that Annie account. Manson liked a tons of photos of hers. She either blocked him or the other way around since last week cos she's not on his follower list anymore but now she's followed by none other than Illma Gore. Where's mah popcorn???????? 2021 will be interesting. Somethings brewing.
No. 1131175
>>1131045lol
Evil anons won't let grandpa hook up with girls anymore.
No. 1131360
>>113103018-year-olds are still legally able to consent, regardless of whether you agree with the morality of his relationships with them or not. Lilith and Evan were adults when they were with him.
This article:
>>1126686 was from 1995. If there ever is a case against him for sexually abusing a minor (and I doubt there will be), that wouldn't be a viable piece of evidence because that was something he said over 20 years ago. The comment he made about making a dating app for kids was obviously said as a joke. And I don't know if you've ever actually listened to “Kiddie Grinder,” but the title is the only thing about the song that's even remotely sexual.
Focus on the things he's done that are actually illegal instead of trying to accuse him of being a pedophile when you have no evidence. If you really believe the things that you're struggling to prove, then you're legitimately mentally ill and you need to get help instead of posting your bullshit here.
No. 1131474
>>1131360I 90% agree with you but it’s likely Lilith was underage when she started talking to him. There’s some proof she was sexual with him by March, 2015
>>986152and her birthday is in April
>>1009697 making her 17. Even if they haven’t physically met yet sexting with a minor is illegal. Unfortunately I doubt Clare would ever press charges though.
No. 1131747
>>1131713Not debatable, Manson asked her to be in the Mephistopheles of Los Angeles video which was filmed in March, before her 18th birthday.
He would also be subjected to California law in addition to Kentucky. I can’t find any reference to a 17+ law that you say, it’s just stated as “minors.”
https://baldanilaw.com/kentucky-teen-sexting-laws/Clare stated she sent him a sexual video soon after he asked her to be him his music video which would be before her 18th birthday.
No. 1132043
>Clare stated she sent him a sexual video soon after he asked her to be him his music video which would be before her 18th birthday.That would be child pornography which is ILLEGAL.
>>1131360> The comment he made about making a dating app for kids was obviously said as a joke.No it wasn’t… that’s their MO to make it seem like “jokes” as way to normalize it. This also wasn’t just
one sexual comment he ever made. What about the comment he made on stage saying “no I never been with underage girls”, where he also tried to make it seem like a “joke”. What about when he got arrested in Canada? You think they thought it was a “joke” enough to arrest him?
People are not letting these sickos in Hollywood get away with these type of sick comments about children anymore. Look at what happened to Shane Dawson.
The only reason Manson hasn’t yet is because he’s not in the spotlight and people have not held him accountable and called him out for it.
>Focus on the things he's done that are actually illegal instead of trying to accuse him of being a pedophile when you have no evidence. If you really believe the things that you're struggling to proveThat’s exactly what I’m doing. I’m not struggling to prove anything. It’s not what I believe, it’s what I KNOW.
No. 1132133
>>1131045Don’t wanna diverge but omg I actually think this is really interesting development. Illma is helping Esme and Evan and probs other
victims so now Manson isn’t her friend no more but Illma is? Lord please let this be the beginning of his downfall pleaseeee
No. 1132207
>underage childrenkek
>>1132185nta. I think anon wanted to say everybody is tired of you and your posts. Ok, you think or you know he is a pedo. Ok, everybody got it. Now move on.
No. 1132213
>>1132207Why is >underage children funny? So… there’s posts I’m tired of… Not sure why it’s such a
trigger. It was actually another anon who brought it up.
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>>1132270Love how you just dismissed everything I said regarding the sexual comments he made, which I would consider
proofAnd how you keep dismissing this little fun fact
>>986152 Lilith was in FACT 17 years old when he was communicating with her and was exchanging sexually explicit material -which is ILLEGAL and makes him a PEDO.
No. 1132391
>>1132366Ever since you haunted these threads you’ve been
obsessed with pinning pedophilia on him. I agree some of his comments about children are shady but it’s not illegal. Clare will not press charges against him. Why keep beating us over the head with anecdotal evidence and your “sick pedo” mantra when nothing can come of it unless a
victim charges him.
Everyone is already aware of Clare, his comments, and Courtney, these points have already been made. The only thing you’re proving is you’re an obnoxious troll.
No. 1132446
>>1132366The only pieces of evidence you have are caps from random accounts that you can't even prove ever belonged to him. His jokes might be in bad taste, but that in itself doesn't make him a pedophile. And we already clarified that he was talking to Lilith when she was underage, but unless she suddenly has some divine epiphany that what he did to her was wrong and decides to press charges against him within the next 4 years, he's not going to be penalized for whatever went on between them.
Even if he is a child predator (I doubt he is, but I'll humor you), it's still not your place to try to legally punish him for what he did to someone else. I agree that everyone should be aware that he's
abusive so they know what they're getting into when they walk onto his tour bus, but that's not a reason to try to prove something that isn't true or speculate on his supposedly friendly relationships with children he's worked with when they've never even insinuated that he abused them. You're not a
victim. You don't get to make that choice for them.
>>1132436Everyone knows when it's you. The way you type is so telling.
No. 1132533
>>1132446Everyone knows who's typing, jfc.
Dawn,stop that mf bullshit. You have no fucking proof at all. It sucks.
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>>1132183Are you blind? They followed each other. This girls Insta was public two days ago but I guess she made it private again . One of her last posts last week was about times up and men being afraid .and then he was gone lmao Oop
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Omfg,how pathetic is this?
Is she sitting at home counting the days they've been married?
And not to forget, we're so happy it hurts..
No. 1133057
>>1132446I’m not denying it. I meant this was a different anon
>>1132400 anons are not always accurate every time, and I’m not the one who posted about the
children he worked with.
Child pornography is illegal in itself, she doesn’t have to press charges. I seriously can’t believe that no one said anything when people saw that and reported it.
>His jokes might be in bad taste, but that in itself doesn't make him a pedophile. And we already clarified that he was talking to Lilith when she was underage,You think they were jokes but yet he’s sexting and exchanging illicit material with a minor and that’s not telling enough?
No. 1133078
>>1133049What does it say?
Pny happy 8 months wife Lindsay?
What does PNY stand for?
And I don't get it, she brought these flowers for him?
No. 1133080
>>1133078Lol I got it now. It's not PNY, it's a shadow from the other card.
The first card is ‘To Manson <one word missing> Wife Lindsay’ and the second is ’Happy 8 months’.
She really gave him flowers.
Usually it's vice versa sis.
No. 1133087
>>1133049Who is this bitch kidding? She doesn’t know what love is either. She is just as phony as him. She loves his money & fame.
>>1132898It didn’t show up for me at first, but it is now.
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What’s up with this account.
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I'm convinced she's never going to shut up about Hope. It's been months since she died and she's still milking it.
No. 1133783
>>1133721Soo.. Lindsay enjoys being called a pig and being cheated on by who knows how many other women? Is that why she relentlessly harassed his side chicks in the past?
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding you but crave? You’re implying his past
victims are bdsm gone wrong because he’s into torture? Bullshit. The most important rule of torture play is consent which Evan and Esme specifically stated there was none.
Manson is a big boy who should know restraint as most adults do but refuses to accept that responsibility.
No. 1133797
>>1133721Genuinely happy? Are you kidding? I remember him calling her a pig and trash and now she's the ultimate queen? C'mon that's ridiculous.
I think the whole thing is an absolute fake show. Just as credible as her profession is photographer. She has absolutely nothing to show. Probably sits at home and is liking her favorite ass kissers on Instagram around the clock.
This must be a very exciting marriage. This "wife" is as exciting as a bucket of sleeping pills.
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How is one supposed to take whoresarealwayssomethingtofear seriously?
No. 1134065
>>1134014So? It's their account. They can post whatever they want. I don't think they meant for it to be taken seriously anyway.
>>1134050They haven't accused him of anything specific. They seem like just another troll account or an lolcow parody. Most of their posts are just random, Manson-related pictures with cryptic captions. There's nothing particularly interesting about their account.
No. 1134703
>>1129250 These people are retarded.
None of these girls look like children. Lilith's face looks like a 27 y/o Amber Heard. Evan looked young when she was with him (as she was) but clearly not a child.
The pedo vs no pedo argument on here will never die, maybe the mods should. just lock the thread temp. to dissuade all the crazies from visiting this board.
No. 1134792
>>1134050Well first there was "Manson 100% hit me" in their bio which is an accusation, then they accused Lindsay of "helping him" which she does. But they don't give any proof.
Plus I read that they brag about stalking people who speak out about Manson. So basically another crazy person.
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>>1134792I'm not sure where you read that, but I've followed them since they were first mentioned here and I've never seen them brag about harassing or stalking anyone. Also, they posted this recently. It could be fake, but I thought it was worth mentioning. One of Madelyn's supposed accounts, @glitter7830, follows them and comments on most of their posts.
>>1134860They never posted any porn videos. They just recorded some videos inside of Manson's house. They changed their user a while ago, but I think they might've finally deleted their account or gotten suspended because I used to follow them and I can't find them anymore.
No. 1135155
>>1135030Sad
I hope people took screenshots. I remember Lindsay commenting under one of their posts.
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Did she just weirdly shopped a boobcrack?? The fuck is this picture?
No. 1135651
>>1135588Maybe she's hoping for a second one? The celebrities will surely be begging to be allowed to work with Mrs. Warner. After all, almost half a million people follow her on Instagram.
Her artworks, which were offered for sale for $5000, have surely all been sold long ago.
I sincerely apologize for my sarcasm. Not.
No. 1136058
>>1135995Welp, there's at least one apparently retarded fan
>>1116479 and
>>1105215, and Dawn. Who knows how often they post.
Edwin said there would be one more video in January/early February. Since LKB reposted his video, I hope she has worked with him and anons will have a lot of milk soon.
No. 1136065
>>1135995There’s a fine line between catty and jealous but Lindsay deserves the criticism.
Some of his
victims accused her of participating in the abuse and of blackmail. She supports hate accounts that stalk and make shit up about his
victims. She used fans to bully people. She buys bot followers and is clearly trying to make herself look relevant. It’s been suggested she lies and covers for Manson.
So yeah, she gets hate.
No. 1136161
>>1133721What the actual fuck am I reading? Is Manson writing this? Who else would watch and know about torture porn sites?
FYI- Monarchies are DEAD. The only immense pleasure Lindsay gets… is what she gets off Manson… his MONEY. She’s a dumb worthless gold-digging whore who has never had a real job, and THAT is the only reason a woman would not care about if a guy messes around with other women. That is not a definition of “happy”. You’re seriously deluded.
No. 1136216
>>1136183Lol attacked her? She posted here voluntary and got many responses, not all of them were positive. If somebody from lolcow went on to insult her in dms on ig, twitter or elsewhere, it's not my business and, most importantly, it's not ‘anons’ then.
I don't care for Louise personally. What I am really into is how much damage she can do to Manson if she speaks or has spoken to Edwin. That'll hit MM hard I believe.
No. 1136302
>>1136183I can’t comment of her assault but she posted many screenshots and Manson bought her art. There’s an article about him supporting her film.
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/marilyn-manson-helps-fund-glasgow-13111753>>1136216I agree she shouldn’t have posted here but some anons called her a prostitute
>>972471 and went out of their way to discredit her.
>>972366 I would say that’s insulting.
No. 1136487
>>1136302Louise Keay Bell is the least credible person in this thread. Does anyone read her twitter? looney tune. Her motivations seem self-serving and monetary and she admits it.
Louise Keay bell talks nonsense to herself online, openly and publicly on her twitter. Much like the homeless man outside the bus stop, talking out loud thinking people are listening or giving a shite
Louise Keay Bell is the definition of a gaslighting trolling narcissistic wee little cunt. She uses her social media to tell tall tales and cyberbully, much like other keyboard warriors on this thread.
Louise Keay Bell is the only person to like and reply to her own tweets. Schizo tendencies = 100% believable 👍🏾
Louise Keay bell uses Twitter to tell the world when she isn’t able to obtain or has been off of her MEDICATIONS (with an S!!). That’s who I usually trust most: people that need medication to get through their day. Those are usually the people with the best grip on reality.
sarcasmIMO there is not a less trustworthy person than LKB to try and use as some sort of justification or crutch to accuse anyone of anything, ever. She’s an attention whore and a complete joke of an “artist”. Clearly she’s able to con high profile people into giving real money to her fake projects she never finishes.
Hey LKb, i bet you read this page because you’re an attention whore - When does “Tea Leaves” premier?
No. 1136540
>>1136487>Louise Keay bell uses Twitter to tell the world when she isn’t able to obtain or has been off of her MEDICATIONSPerhaps she needs medications because she was abused by not only Manson but an ex-boyfriend. Lots of people are on medications for a variety of reason, it’s not shameful.
>Clearly she’s able to con high profile people into giving real money to her fake projects she never finishesDid you not see she
gave the money back to Manson? Jfc.
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>>1136520She’s posted zero PROOF that she had any encounter with anyone ever. She’s made a CLAIM that she had romantic encounter and that she went on tour together even. That’s a pretty outrageous CLAIM. She also accuses a boyfriend of allegedly ass raping her, ON TWITTER. She posted the convo., and the guy actually apologized and thought she was Into it. Didn’t seem rapey at all. Where’s the proof of any wrong doing?? Calling it like I sees it - Louise Keay Bell is a lying attention whore that takes meds has zero cred.
No. 1136563
>>1136556Again, I don’t see how taking meds discredits her. Esme admitted to taking meds on IG, it’s not uncommon for abuse
victims. She posted screenshots and texts from Manson and Judd, you’re claiming it’s all bogus? Why would a media source cover that Manson donated money to her film if they had no connection.
>The American rocker has praised the film and has contributed £750 to Louise's crowdfunding page to produce the film.https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/marilyn-manson-helps-fund-glasgow-13111753 No. 1136567
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>>1136540Perhaps is an odd word to use when making accusations about people. Perhaps she was taking medications before she ever met him. Perhaps none of what she says is true at all. Perhaps it’s all made up because shes a naive superfan. Perhaps all your speculation are just based on some women hopping on a bandwagon and lying to get some attention.
She says that after a sending it back, that she ended up got the money, did you not see that part? Jfc
Who is she even talking to though? LKB is a comoletely insane delusional person if I’ve ever seen one.
No. 1136575
>>1136567>She says that after a sending it back, that she ended up got the money, did you not see that part? Jfc At his insistence after Judd was rude to her and she sent it back.
Mason followed her on IG, as well.
Why are you so hellbent on calling her a liar because she takes meds? What has she gained from lying about it?
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>>1136575Ok. So Judd was rude…by sending her money? Uh huh. Go onnnnn. Say that out loud and it sounds insane.
What’s to gain for her? Uhhhh, Attention???? and fulfilling her own
abusive tendancies. So She had the attention of a celeb and then it went away, probably because she blew it by being annoying or obsessive. Now she’s butthurt. Case closed.
If he followed her on IG, that would be a good or nice thing to do. what’s your point?
No. 1136601
>>1136563You don’t see how taking mind altering drugs affects the credibility of any eye witness accounts, memories, or stories a person may have??? Do you understand how alcohol affects your judgement, vision and memory?? It’s the exact Same concept except usually in pill form. She even says in her tweet that she’s withdrawing and is “turning into a crazy person”
What she says is at best exaggerated, or PERHAPS completely made up.
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>>1136591Judd wasn’t rude? Obviously she was uncomfortable enough to send it back.
What are you trying to prove with that screenshot? She makes fun of Manson, so what. Case closed? You weren’t there and you can’t speak for either of them.
She gained negative attention speaking out, it certainly didn’t benefit her career.
Manson following her shows a connection when you’ve claimed there was none.
No. 1136608
>>1136605Yeah. That post is from sept 2017. The Glasgow article is from May 2017. May is 4 months before September. Guess she must have been telling the truth, for sure. Fucking losers. Proving my point for me.
ALSO, the bottom half of that screenshot seems to not be in line with the top part. As if it had been typed by someone else and then placed there. If just the top part is actually what Judd wrote (IF), it doesn’t seem very rude at all. That bottom part is clearly pasted on from somewhere else. Terrible photoshop skills
Louise Keay bell is a liar. End of story.
No. 1136613
>>1136591I've been scrolling her twitter for the past hour now and wow she brings up MM and Judd ALOT. It's obsessive.
How does she even know if they're the ones harassing her? No proof. It is pretty funny though.
This bitch is definitely crazy. Her entire twitter SCREAMS "I'm a
victim, woe is me". Everything feels as if it's to demand attention.
How many time does someone needa bring up the fact they're on medication. We get it girl.
The text from her ex that "raped" her is VERY telling. She really exposed her self with that one. He literally said that SHE is the abuser, not him.
No. 1136617
>>1136608>Yeah. That post is from sept 2017. The Glasgow article is from May 2017. May is 4 months before September. Guess she must have been telling the truth, for sure. Fucking losers. Proving my point for me. But you just said:
>She explained that she reached out to the paper and misspoke by using the mm namedrop. So what happened was that she got ahold of a paper and told them a lie about something that had yet to happen. Louise’s actual words: “ you can Google it, (Glasgow Live) he got pissed at me for the article, I ended up apologising and crying on the phone like an idiot, he decided he was no longer going to "help" me like he initially offered.”
>>972448
>Louise Keay bell is a liar. End of story.You don’t get to decide that for everyone.
No. 1136634
>>1136613Why is it obsessive to being up your abuser when you’re being actively stalked? She doesn’t have proof but 666fearless claims to be stalked too and there’s two people connected to Manson.
Attention from who though? I certainly don’t see attention given. It’s her Twitter she can post whatever she wants.
>>1136626The texts on the left does make her ex look like a creep and admits to not asking first.
>>1136628The point is the article took place before Judd sent the money and explains why.
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>>1136626Poor guy is apologizing to his girlfriend while she’s accusing him of rape. I’d say that’s an interesting relationship dynamic. Zero about his messages was aggressive. He Just trying to explain himself. Did she say no??? Or try to stop??? Like, a screenshot of a guys apology isn’t really convincing me that he is responsible for a rape. Sounds like a relationship miscommunication, and a regretful next day by a girl that just took it in the ass and then just HAD talked about it on Twitter to play
victim and get attention.
Meanwhile, alleged “rape survivor” Louise Keay Bell has decided its probably safest in 2021 if she try dating with internet strangers. 👍🏾🤦🏽♀️
No. 1136644
>>1136640“A lot of girls like it, and without asking first.” Is pretty damn aggressive.
>Did she say no??? Or try to stop??? Like, a screenshot of a guys apology isn’t really convincing me that he is responsible for a rape. Sounds like a relationship miscommunication, I don’t know, neither of us were there.
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>>1136634“>>1136613
Why is it obsessive to being up your abuser when you’re being actively stalked? She doesn’t have proof but 666fearless claims to be stalked too and there’s two people connected to Manson”
See the pic, lkb likes pics on 666fearless page. For sure the two of them are directly connected. No mm necessary. Perhaps they talk and collude to make things up together. Sounds viable to me and is like something obsessive super fans would be doing.
No. 1136657
>>1136644>>1136640“A lot of girls like it, and without asking first.” Is pretty damn aggressive. “
You’re right. But when you put the entire statement together and give it its full context:
“A lot of girls like it, and without asking first. You don’t, and I know that now. So I won’t do it again”
That DOES NOT sound agressive. Sounds regretful and genuinely sorry. Point made, again.
No. 1136658
>>1136640You’re whole argument that she’s a fraud and liar is because she takes antidepressants, talks about her abuse on Twitter, used Manson’s name in an article (that she claims was at his suggestion), her screenshots are probably fake (without proof that they are from you), and she went on a tinder date for the first time.
Not exactly convincing she’s completely full of shit.
>>1136652Now they’re both frauds because they follow each other? You’ve made countless excuses to discredit
victims, take that shit elsewhere.
No. 1136663
>>1136613> How does she even know if they're the ones harassing her? No proof. It is pretty funny though.But Michelle was being harassed too. Either Manson/Judd really was stalking her or it was some phenomenal coincidence that 2 of his alleged
victims were both being harassed at the same time.
And I don't know why any of us are even arguing about this. Louise does play the
victim, but Manson is also a known abuser. Both hypotheses are viable. None of us were there. We don't know exactly what happened between them.
No. 1136666
>>1136658>>1136605100% this is a fake screenshot. The font sizes between page one and page two are two completely different sizes. Gtfo
Fraud.
No. 1136676
>>1136668When has she said she’s been harassed for years? She posted the whole email from Marcy with the header. Your argument is all his
victims are liars, you clearly have an agenda to discredit them.
No. 1136684
>>1136683What part of
without asking first do you not understand?
No. 1136687
>>1136680If my BOYFRIEND put it in my ass without asking and I didn't want it, id make it known right then and there.
I wouldn't turn around and accuse him of rape and tell the whole world about it and ruin his life. Some guys just don't think about these things. Yes ofcourse he should have asked.
But this does not sound like your typical violent rape that someone deserves to go to prison for.
I dunno man i get vibes off this chick like shes seriously unhinged.
No. 1136696
>>1136687I’m sorry but you think it’s not a big deal for a man to put his dick in your ass with no reason to believe you might want it there and no consideration for asking you first? Could avoid having to ask him, after he’s already shown disregard for your feelings and comfort, to take his dick out of your ass if he didn’t think he’d just get away with it. The definition of non-consensual penetration doesn’t change just because you personally would keep fucking a man who disrespected you like that.
Even beyond that,
>>1136680 makes it pretty clear to me that he didn’t just forget to ask. Sounds like a man who knows he’d get told no and decides to ask forgiveness rather than permission.
No. 1136698
>>1136687AMEN TO THAT. Some women are always playing the
victim because they’re too weak to take responsibility foe the fact that they make bad decisions from time to time.
At least we all learned that Louise Keay bell has taken a cock in her ass at least once.
No. 1136704
>>1136693Exactly. God i feel sorry for men these days.
I can only imagine how scary it is to even hit on a woman without being accused of sexual harassment.
I think of the BDSM community especially
. You can have wild consensual sex to only have the girl cry abuse later when she decides it was wrong after the fact.
No. 1136708
>>1136693She just says he didn’t ask for permission, but she doesn’t clarify if he forced it in, and if she told him to stop and he just kept going.
>>1136698It’’s true, there’s bitches who try to play
victim, but… some women just ARE a
victim.
And Manson is cry bitch boy who plays
victim himself.
No. 1136709
>>1136696No. No no no. Not at all actually. It sounds like the exact opposite of that kind of man. It sounds like a man who apologized, showed regret, a then furthered that apologist by committing to never let it happen again. Your reading skills are questionable at best.
Clearly some boundaries were failed to be put up, and if you’re in the act of having sex, consenting about each thing you do during sex is an absurd idea. Being involved together in a sexual way is consent enough. Getting specific about what is and isn’t ok is the sole responsibility of each person, personally. If Louise Keay bell didn’t specifically react immediately when a cock got put in her ass AND also failed to establish a no-no zone or any sort of rules going in…her expectation of further consent beyond the consent of sex is completely unreasonable. If you’re having sex, there’s always a risk something may end up in your butt. You are an idiot if you think otherwise, and also probably a horrible lay.
No. 1136712
>>1136693>Sounds like Louise Keay bell was getting fucked by her boyfriend and he threw a kink in it by slipping it in her ass, without specifically asking if that were ok. That’s not rape. If she didn’t consent or want that, yes that’s rape. You make a lot of assumptions about a situation you’re not part of. We don’t know if she said no at the time or how he went about it.
>>1136704What the fuck does the BDSM community have anything to do with this. If participants didn’t clearly consent to it before play it’s not BDSM. That’s why you’re supposed to discuss limits beforehand.
No. 1136713
>>1136696If he was her boyf and they were already fucking, consent has been granted. When he stuck it in she should have said no in that moment. But sounds like she just let him do it while she lay there taking it, hating it.
Wouldn't surprise me if that were on purpose so she could cry
victim again.
Poor dude had no idea till afterwards and was remorseful. Then she blasts him online like she did with Manson. Girl needs to learn to take some responsibility for her role in not establishing boundaries for herself.
If she said no during, and he keep going then yeah, id call that rape. But judging from the messages that is not what happened here.
No. 1136720
>>1136712I brought it up because this is a fucking MM thread and he is into some pretty violent sex acts which I think most of the allegations against him were to do with.
They go along with it all coz its MM and they're swept up in it. Then cry abuse now coz of this metoo movement BS.
So it has everything to do with everything if you pay some fucking attention.
No. 1136722
>>1136563Again, taking meds discredits you in that you are taking mind altering substances and then trying to give an accurate account of a situation. Those two things don’t go together and that is obvious for anyone with two eyeballs and the ability to read words. So, you telling me that Esme takes meds definitely discredits her story a bit. Idk her story at all, so can’t speak to specifics, but for sure…I’d be taking whatever she said with a grain of salt knowing now that she were on mind altering psychoactive medications at the time of either recalling the events or at the time the events occurred. 100,000,000%
And How are screen shots considered PROOF??? How does a screenshot prove who sent it?? I can text myself something and make a screenshot and say someone else said it. What do you want me to say?? Give me a script, I’ll make you a screenshot. This is why half the country believes conspiracy theories. Like, Wow
No. 1136724
>>1136714Why would you assume all women want that. If you’re regularly slipping it in without consent yes that’s rape.
>>1136720Being cut with a knife without consent, locked in a room, bearing chased with an ax, having your phone and every movement controlled is NOT bdsm.
No. 1136728
>>113672211% of Americans are on antidepressants, 7.3 million in the UK. None of them are to be trusted to remember abuse or events clearly? Bullshit.
What kind of proof do you require if don’t trust screenshots?
No. 1136737
>>1136731Antidepressants are not “fucked up on drugs.” How do you think these people work and function while taking them. There’s also been studies that they help improve memory.
But whatever dude, I still believe Louise despite your bullshit. If she says he assaulted her with Lindsay’s help I’ll believe her because Manson has assaulted many others. His narcissistic treatment of her is too consistent with other
victims and it’s too elaborate to be a hoax to gain.. $500 bucks and harassment from fans. You keep believing whatever you want though.
No. 1136744
>>1136737“ Antidepressants are not “fucked up on drugs.” “
Yes, that’s actually exactly what that means. Read Louise Keay bell crazy ass Twitter. Does she sound like she’s functioning at a higher human capacity??? Hahahahhahabaa
Gtfo. She’s a lyin’ wee little cunt always looking for an angle to get herself some attention. “ feel sorry for me. I’m such a
victim”.
No. 1136760
>>1136737 Because a story is too elaborate is a reason to just blindly believe it??? Sure.
Would Louise Keay bell the broke crazy person that’s off her meds Create a hoax For $500? Simple answer: Yes. The harrassment from fans she surely could not have anticipated.
No. 1136776
>>1136617“Louise’s actual words: “ you can Google it, (Glasgow Live) he got pissed at me for the article, I ended up apologising and crying on the phone like an idiot, he decided he was no longer going to "help" me like he initially offered.” >>972448“
OK. SHE OPENLY ADMITS THAT SHE LIED TO THE GLASGOW PAPER. That’s fucked up. Fuck her. She should never have gotten any money wtf
Luckily we did all learn that louise keay bell can take a dick up her asshole without being asked.
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Her full statement:
“Another time M told me to use the press about him for publicity for my film, and when an article was released (you can Google it, Glasgow Live) he got pissed at me for the article, I ended up apologising and crying on the phone like an idiot, he decided he was no longer going to "help" me like he initially offered. I think he just liked playing around with power.”
Much of their correspondence was over the phone. You can’t screenshot that.
>>1136760But according to you it’s all a hoax and she never received anything.
Manson bought her art for $500, he didn’t give it to her. He set the price and insisted she have it.
No. 1136792
>>1136781RE: that screen grab
Her bf’s response is more telling than what she wrote after. Looks like a woman that regrets a decision and is making up any excuse to be the
victim.
No. 1136801
>>1136792If she repeatedly told him no that’s rape. Full stop. How are you getting, “woman who regrets a decision” and “she plays it off like it’s ok” from that cap? He admits in the other cap he didn’t ask first and she told him no.
We get it, you’re into anal rape and don’t believe women.
No. 1136803
>>1136781Nobody said she never received anything. She did lie about it though and admits to lying about it. She said in May that she had a movie that had been backed by a celebrity to the tune of 750 pounds. That wasn’t a true statement per her own screenshots. She didn’t get any money until September. So in May, she was lying. Even If he gave her permission to use his name, she definitely did not go about it well. What it seems more likely is that she did gaslight him into donating his money to her movie by making a false press statement that would make him look like a jerk for backing out of. Just saying. Use your head.
Most of the correspondence was Over the phone? Sounds like an excuse to be able to make up large segments of a story.
No. 1136808
>>1136802That’s like the age old saying
“Guilty until proven innocent” ♀️
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>>1136806“Both during and after we had sex I repeatedly asked you how you were doing and if it was good for you. Every time you told me it was good for you”
Sounds like she consented, several times.
No. 1136812
>>1136806>>1136804> Up until that, she’s acted consensualFrom the cap, “I really didn’t like it when you decided to do anal sex on me without asking first and didn’t stop the first time I said no.”
She told him no multiple times.
>>1136803She never received any money except for the $500 for her art. If Manson told her to use his name in the press that’s what she did. He can’t be salty about her using his own advice.
>>1136805How does she have fraud all over? Has her association with Manson benefited her career? Nope. Has she received a settlement? Nope. Attention from the press? Nope. Negative attention? Definitely.
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Justin "Judd" Sherman is obviously on here trying to assassinate victims' characters. By defending LKB's rapist, who isn't Manson. Mods need to ban him.
Note the similarities between the hate page created by Judd and what's been posted here. They both made fun of her art and accused her of liking her own posts (which she's never done lol, it's such a funny and odd thing to attack someone over). I think Manson's camp are becoming unhinged.
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Found Judd's Etsy and he liked this item, yikes.
https://www.etsy.com/uk/people/juddlyduddly No. 1136960
>>1136948I am
>>1136935 don't lump me in with Judd pls.
I am shook how much flood there's from him.
No. 1137111
>>1136919>>1136948If that’s really Judd and he works for Manson (was he ever fired?) then I completely understand why
victims are afraid to speak out. This is serious shit. His employee is stalking, threatening, and attempting to discredit. So Manson assaults and has his people clean up after him. Disgusting.
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LKB still lurking.
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>>1137770I think it was after -which makes her accusations about Manson seem wishy-washy.
He must not feel threatened by Louise, because he never reported her. He just sends his boy Judd to harass her. This also made me laugh.
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>>1137155He follows a Juan.
> has his people clean up after him. Disgusting.Yup. Fucking creep. Then he thinks people are fucking stupid.
No. 1137934
>>1137818So she continued to read the threads and did not answer a single question about fearless which anons asked her? Ok, Louise. Good to know.
She needs to change her therapist or block that anon from here who keeps summoning her to read the thread. Lurking won't help her mental state at all.
No. 1138104
>>1138026Maybe because (1) she didn't go away ffs anyway, (2) fearless is questionable af?
She kept posting bs nobody asked her about but couldn't answer simple questions.
All I want to know is why Judd, if it's really him, does his best to show Louise in the worst light possible but doesn't do the same to fearless. All we have read so far is that he posted photos of her home and her private information somewhere on Instagram on his private account. Oh really? Is that how you bully somebody?
We read all kind of bs about Louise from supposedly Judd but there's NOTHING about fearless. Nothing!
On the one hand I wouldn't love anybody to go through what LKB's been through, on the other hand it just makes fearless even less credible than she was.
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>>1138104There was a hate page made about her at the same time for LKB.
>>985291She’s legit because Manson tagged her in a post but her overall behavior is odd, imo. She claimed Judd stole her info from Manson and anons pointed out that that can’t be true due to the Marcy email. Idk.. I don’t see the point of her posting very spam email on her IG.
No. 1138142
>>1138026she’s obviously out for attn if she’s posting about it online
>>1138116maybe 666fearless is just tagged because she took the photo. same angle as a video she had posted around the same time. that photo is right around the same time her 666fearless account was whining that manson wouldn’t let her in the backstage (probably because he had the other hotter chicks in the photo ) this tagged pic doesn’t make her story legitimate it just makes her the one that probably took the picture
No. 1138178
>>1138142Rape troll is back.
If she took the photo and he posted it they obviously know each other.
No. 1138217
>>1138178that’s 100% not true. a tagged photo is not proof of any connection other than that she might be the photographer. a tagged photo does not provide any legitimacy to any story unless the question is “has 666fearless ever been tagged in a MM photo?”
Any thing else beyond that is purely speculative
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She keeps exposing her pathological lying ass all the time. She had a normal fucking cat and never complained about allergies. The only reason she got Devon Rex cats is Manson. Weird thing to copy but hey.
I know Madelyn is old news, but this is just one of the reasons why you can't believe anything she says. It gets more and more clear that she's never even met Manson and is really just a delusional fangirl, lmao.
No. 1138306
>>1138240Sage your shit if you insist on staying.
Do you have proof that 666fearless posted that photo first? Manson, himself or management, usually credits professional photographers. As far as I know he’s never reposted a fan photo on his IG, it’s all behind the scenes, personal photos, and professional shoots.
No. 1138331
>>1138104So much bullshit.
Louise and Michele are in touch, ask her. They are both being bullied by the same people. And Louise is sure that it's Judd.
Posting someone's address online without consent is in fact bullying.
Stop talking shit.
No. 1138350
I an OP of>>1138104
>>1138116I didn't question if she's legit, she definitely knows him irl, she had posted his not-seen-before painting more than a year prior to him (that's how manson got his first thread btw), what I question is if she's anti-Manson at this point or not, given how inconsistent her behavior was (and is).
Any caps of the hate page Judd made for her? So far only words, I want to be clear, I am not attacking you, anon, I don't get it why Judd treats fearless differently from LKB. Just compare, posting her address somewhere on Instagram and posting here, where surely many people will see his writing, are on different levels of bullying.
>>1138271She doesn't matter, pls don't post her, she's not the cow and it's not milky.
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>>1138350This is the only cap I caught, maybe other anons have more.
I believe she lives in LA and claimed Judd stalked her at her home but I don’t think she elaborated or posted further about it. II agree the online harassment seems more targeted towards LKB.
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>>1138350this painting. public post from September 2014 by the apparent framing company. has 22 likes rn
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>>1138350wonder how much coin 666fearless dropped on this
No. 1138468
>>1138462>>1138429Who said she brought it? Idk if she owns it tbh, but she definitely was close enough to take a good quality pic of it. She claimed she was his platonic friend, he could gift it to her.
>>1138457This.
>>1138462>>1138459She def had the photo in better quality than that.
Is that Michele is the Michele lol? Why didn't you post before?
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Excuse me? Yikes forever.
>blood, URINE, sugar-free (lmao) drink
No. 1138480
>>1138333First you said “666fearless is just tagged because she took the photo” then you back-peddled with “any connection other than that she
might be the photographer.”
And further claim “so Mm saw a fan photo after a show and posted it and tagged for credit…??”
If you can’t prove she posted it first then how else would Manson have access to it or know to tag her? Yes, the burden’s on you to back up your claim.
No. 1138491
>>1138480the burden would be to prove how being tagged in a photo makes a statement that two people “obviously know eachother” when it obviously doesn’t.
And a dm off the top of my head. glad we were able to tackle that mystery. good thing you’re not a lawyer, you’d suck at it
No. 1138494
>>1138486Michelle would easily disprove that.
Manson posts and tags random fans on his IG when he’s never done that before? Ok.
No. 1138511
>>1138505It's lame anon.
Once I complained about fearless not being dragged down by Judd enough, suddenly you are here to fix it. Should have waited just a little bit to be more credible.
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>>1132067When did Jessicka call him a pedophile?
(use new thread)