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No. 1727907
For all the attention seekers, grifters and other assorted idiots in the alternative community
Most recent cows:
-Jake Munro aka Snake aka Fake, extremely unoriginal "musician", after his Casey Neistat imitation vlogs didn't take off he got famous from doing TikTok react videos. Known for copying the aesthetics of many musicians such as MM and Dir En Grey. Music is really unoriginal too, his most successful songs are covers. Has an obsessive cult fanbase of tweens and lonely middle aged women, calls himself "goth daddy" after saying all goths are cunts. Got his channel started by leeching off his gf, Kaya, then dumped her when he got famous enough
-ToxicTears (Kaya), veteran youtuber, one of the OG "goths", used to get hundreds of thousands of views but her channel has dwindled, now she constantly makes excuses not to film and when she does it's usually an unboxing or a Q&A or GRWM. Has been pretty active on TikTok lately
-Kat Paine aka Skat, married tattoo artist who Jake cheated on Kaya with, has a kid. Traces her tattoo designs, vocab includes "shots!", "drinks", and giggling
-Jude Bishop, OF thot and ddlg pedo-pandering pickme who is also "goth", has her own thread but crosses over here too, publicly thirsts for Jake
-ItsBlackFriday (Freyja), goth youtuber, country hopper, terrible planner.
-Psychara, witchy instagoth who fries her hair
-Of Herbs and Altars (Dorian), goth youtuber who does videos on her ana and drugs past (now published about it too), believes she can fuck ghosts
-Adora BatBrat, instagoth who likes posting provocative stuff for shock value
-Ruadhan, youtuber, rambling shit stirrer
…and other cows who are discussed but not necessarily producing significant or frequent milk.
Updates from last thread:
>>>/snow/1671530 Jake opens a NSFW account for anyone who wants to see their last meal again.
>>>/snow/1673680 >>>/snow/1673691 More colouring book tattoos from Kat.
>>>/snow/1675419 Jude has lost another "daddy".
>>>/snow/1681536 >>>/snow/1681537
>>>/snow/1681539 >>>/snow/1681541 Jake chimps out at a viewer, claims Kaya scams her viewers for money and praises himself for not airing out their dirty laundry so soon after the breakup.
>>>/snow/1682072 Chimp out number 2, Jakes life is great and yours is not.
>>>/snow/1686821 VR content from Jake is yet to be seen at time of this post.
>>>/snow/1687844 Chimp out number 3, Jake claims Kaya has stolen equipment from him, criticises her tattoos.
>>>/snow/1688957 Chimp out number 4, he's still obsessed with Kaya.
>>>/snow/1690867 Jake puts out a shitty mix of a cover song and admits to all that he didn't even try. Months in the works, btw.
>>>/snow/1699517 IBF gets denied boarding a flight to New Zealand, e-begs to fund a new ticket.
>>>/snow/1708769 >>>/snow/1709314 Jake drops a 2 hour video detailing his and Kayas relationship.
>>>/snow/1709312 Kaya drops a 3 hour response.
The abundance of milk caused people to split off and take the discussions into a new Kaya/Jake/Kat thread. These threads contain excellent summaries of the videos and archives of various things, however nothing major has happened since. Anons are split on keeping the threads separate or returning to Altcows, and I know for sure any updates about the two will likely be posted in both threads, so do whatever you feel like I guess.
The summary of this thread largely focuses on Kaya/Jake, because not much else has been happening. Please feel free to update us on forgotten cows or introduce new ones.
>>>/snow/1705825 Kaya/Jake thread #1
>>>/snow/1715677 Kaya/Jake thread #2
Previous thread:
>>>/snow/1668686 No. 1727968
>>1727909You need to add "," after a link like this
>>>/snow/1673680 ,
>>>/snow/1673691Since we are in /snow/, you can link the posts like this:
>>1673680,
>>1673691(kekk I fucked it up myself too)
No. 1727972
Fixed OP
Updates from last thread:
>>1671530 Jake opens a NSFW account for anyone who wants to see their last meal again.
>>1673680,
>>1673691 More colouring book tattoos from Kat.
>>1675419 Jude has lost another "daddy".
>>1681536,
>>1681537,
>>1681539,
>>1681541 Jake chimps out at a viewer, claims Kaya scams her viewers for money and praises himself for not airing out their dirty laundry so soon after the breakup.
>>1682072 Chimp out number 2, Jakes life is great and yours is not.
>>1686821 VR content from Jake is yet to be seen at time of this post.
>>1687844 Chimp out number 3, Jake claims Kaya has stolen equipment from him, criticises her tattoos.
>>1688957 Chimp out number 4, he's still obsessed with Kaya.
>>1690867 Jake puts out a shitty mix of a cover song and admits to all that he didn't even try. Months in the works, btw.
>>1699517 IBF gets denied boarding a flight to New Zealand, e-begs to fund a new ticket.
>>1708769,
>>1709314 Jake drops a 2 hour video detailing his and Kayas relationship.
>>1709312 Kaya drops a 3 hour response.
The abundance of milk caused people to split off and take the discussions into a new Kaya/Jake/Kat thread. These threads contain excellent summaries of the videos and archives of various things, however nothing major has happened since. Anons are split on keeping the threads separate or returning to Altcows, and I know for sure any updates about the two will likely be posted in both threads, so do whatever you feel like I guess.
The summary of this thread largely focuses on Kaya/Jake, because not much else has been happening. Please feel free to update us on forgotten cows or introduce new ones.
>>1705825 Kaya/Jake thread #1
>>1715677 Kaya/Jake thread #2
No. 1727976
>>1727968Last time I tried that they were all green, must've found some new way to mess up. Thank you for teaching me anon!
>>1727972Thank you both (or same anon), very much appreciated
No. 1727979
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These stories are from yesterday, but IBF is/was in hospital, hopefully she and her baby are okay.
No. 1727982
>>1727979Any date earlier than 38 weeks can be
problematic, but if she goes into labor the baby has a 95% chance of survival.
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Herbs is about to drop a video on her spicy straightness and nlogism. I don't know if I'll watch it at some point. I suppose it will be 70 % muh autism, 29% fangirling over Oscar Wilde and 1% British politeness.
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A musical collab between racist alt celebricows that no one wanted or asked for is coming to assault our ears much like Marilyn Manson assaults his girlfriends kek
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From the comments
No. 1728156
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>>1728146I thought that too but it turns out she just quits it sometimes. She's too quirky to be a woman unless doing X as a woman sounds cool and it could give her more views.
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>>1728270I dunno
nonny, as much as I hate elvis I think MM is uglier. I'm assuming Kat is using an older photo of them together unless he got a facelift recently or something.
Seems unlikely since he just bought a new house priced higher than the last one he just sold though.
https://www.dirt.com/gallery/entertainers/musicians/marilyn-manson-house-glendale-1203602858/manson3/ No. 1728581
Mother of goff, "goff zhanrass", here we come again. Yes, goth and industrial are two separate things. Also "other stuff" and goth are separate. But when Americans enter the topic of "genres of goth" the gates of madness open.
Why murricans are so obsessed with teh zhanraz? OK, mostly oldest part of US millenials and some pars of "mid millenials" are. The USA gen X pretty much called everything "deathrock". Yes, even Siouxie and the Banshees been called that back in the days. Just fucking ask any US gen X who actually been around as the part of the scene back then. For hug sake.
Millenial burgers don't even understand that post punk and new wave were synonymous and almost no one was using term "goth" outside the UK back in the 80s. Most Europe called gothic rock "coldwave" or "darkwave". Yet every murrican tuber must at some point produce a video about 666 zhanrass of goff - where they with straight face differentiate between "post punk", "new wave", deathrock, coldwave, darkwave while to the most people who actually remember the '80s post punk and new wave were just two terms for the same stuff just used in different regions and also deathrock was the US term for what UK called gothic rock and what most of continental Europe (Soviet Union included) called "cold wave" or "dark wave" (that term is older than actual synthesizer lead goth bands). And that gothic rock/dirge/deathrock/darkwave/coldwave/zimna fala/Todeskunst was a subgenre of New Wave a.k.a. Post Punk a.k.a. Neue Welle.
And try to explain that to these genre obsessed murricans. Good luck, they claim how genres are so freaking important yet they are resisting to facts that they are getting terminology totally wrong. Heck they are not even able to come with consistent classification for which band played which of their imaginary subgenres. Which for anyone with above room temperature IQ should be a dead giveaway that there is something fundamentally wrong with such claims. Heck even originally UK bands who burgers agree that played gothic rock had in many cases very different sound and only common mood and themes plus descending from punk scene wee only common factor they shared. The most ridiculous attempt I seen was classification of a band as "[their vision of]deathrock genre" by the fact that at least one member was sporting a mohawk/deathhawk hairstyle. If you want to imagine my reaction to that - picture a person hysterically laughing and rhythmically hitting table top with their head.
But no, burgers are resistant to such arguments. They just repeat that bullshit over and over everywhere they can and get butthurt every time you counter their narratives. If someone don't believe me - try interacting with them on reddit's r/goth. You can measure time between start of conversation and getting banned in hours at max. They managed to transfer their genres retardation to non USA based online dwellers who mostly never been around any actual scene members who remember pre millenials scene. As these people constantly ridicule and mock nonsense these millenials fanatically preach.
No. 1728910
>>1728581>Why murricans are so obsessed with teh zhanraz? OK, mostly oldest part of US millenials and some pars of "mid millenials" are. The USA gen X pretty much called everything "deathrock". Yes, even Siouxie and the Banshees been called that back in the days. Just fucking ask any US gen X who actually been around as the part of the scene back then. For hug sake.Okay I'll bite as a murrican who does care about sub-genre breakdowns and it's as simple as just wanting to make it easier for people to understand as well as having interest in learning about music in general. I like helping newbies get into the music and when I was a teenager, there was practically not much information on what actual goth music was. I would see bands like Evanescence, Rammstein, Coal Chamber, HIM, Manson, and even Slipknot and MCR referred to as "goth music" back in the early 2000s And as a dumb teenager, I just didn't know where to go to find proper information about goth music. So I take what I observed an listened to in order to help better under the music when I finally got around to finding actual goth music. I personally break it down because I like studying music as well as helping newbies dipping their toes into the genre, giving the information that I wish I had growing up.
And I'm sorry but there is a difference between Deathrock and Goth Rock. Sisters of Mercy and Catherine's Cathedral don't sound like Christian Death or Dystopian Society for example. And people who call Siouxsie and the Banshees "Deathrock" nowadays may not now what Deathrock actually sounds like.
No. 1728985
>>1728910Lemme guess, you are from the USA or Australia?
>And I'm sorry but there is a difference between Deathrock and Goth Rock. Yes, one term originated in the US other in the UK. That's about that about difference between them. Neither presented any coherent sound and only common thing was hat they sounded like darker/sadder/gloomier "punky stuff".
>Sisters of Mercy and Catherine's Cathedral don't sound like Christian Death or Dystopian Society for example.Neither The Chameleons sound like The Dance Society or Sad Lovers and Giants or The Specimen or Alien Sex Fiend. And these bands come from same country and originated around the same time - 1980/1981 few years after Siouxie and The Banshees and Bauhaus. I never seen anyone even attempting to not call them gothic rock, tho I do not remember '80s so keep that in mind.
> And people who call Siouxsie and the Banshees "Deathrock" nowadays may not now what Deathrock actually sounds like.It does not sound like anything in particular. It's just a term that originated in the US for darker gloomier punk, many of these bands sounded nothing alike when that term was born (Christian Death and Morticia are two separate sounds).
I don't even remember anyone using that term here in Europe anymore for quite few years. It was "trendy" term back in the '00s, but it's popularity faded since. And I hang around quite a few goth rock festivals in Europe. Yes, a lot of people do call Christian Death just "goth band"/"gothic rock band" here.
Please do not try to prove to me that the US been somewhat very separated from the UK (as I have seen that trick pulled out several times already as an "argument" that "Deathrock" was "unique unblemished snowflake"). It was not. In 1981 there already been a mixed band Lords of The New Church. Also both scenes shared '70s influences, yes they also had local ones that were unique but does it constitute different subgenres? If yes then every country in Europe should represent different "goff zhanra" which would be insane. Yes, Polish People's Republic and Soviet Ukraine (Soviet Union Republic back then) had bands that were called back then "cold wave" (tho Poland had few times more than Ukraine) tho they presented rather different sounds. Also Soviet Lithuania sounded different than Soviet Ukraine. There was also Yugoslavia that ha own sound - also called coldwave back then. If I would ever had to "average" sound of all these "Iron Curtain" bands excluding eastern Germany I would say they sounded somewhat close to Virgin Prunes (which on it's own was a very diverse sounding band) which was the UK band of pretty early genealogy among goth bands. That that would mean I ignore a lot of unique features like influences of local folk music and local "iron curtain" "big beat" ("commie bloc" term used for rock'and'roll) on them.
The only reason that someone even been using term Deatrock outside of the US back in the '00s was because it was trendy. Just like back in the '90s it was trendy to call yourself coldwave in Europe and deny having anything in common with "gothic rock". Of course when asked musicians were enumerating various bands from the UK that even you would call gothic rock. The whole "'00s Deathrock Revival" was rather "older millenials fantasy about how the US scene sounded and looked back in the '80s" with very narrow selection of sound and looks than it was actually played and worn back in the "original deathrock days" and also introducing quite a lot of new elements while totally ignoring many elements.
And don't even make me start on Germans and their obsession of creating zilions of special snowflake dark and gloomy genres created especially to label music of a one or two bands. 99 percent of terms they came up with no one remembers anymore. German goths to this day also use the term "grufti" for members of subculture. Does it magically make them "not goths"? I don't think so.
(learn2integrate) No. 1729009
>>1728961Shit, nona, really? I see your post is unsaged and I can't believe what I'm reading. Did
vampires really make her realise she's just not like other girls? Did she explain at any point why she keeps calling her evil imaginary friends
vampires when, according to what she narrated one year ago, those entities had nothing in common with actual vampires? Is there any mention to Poppy Z. Britte? Because someone mentioned her in the Fakebois thread today and I couln't help but think of our favourite excrackhead. Damn, to think that Herbs fits perfectly in ProAna Scumbags, TiF/Fakebois and the Alt thread all at once…
No. 1729059
>>1729009NTA, but I just listened myself and it's about accurate.
> Is there any mention to Poppy Z. Britte?She states that she took her middle name some character from her books, but doesn't actually talk about Poppy.
Other fun details.
>wrote fanfiction about her vampire characters, including full lyrics to their vampire songs (and maybe recordings, too?). >claims the vampires wrote these songs, not her. they simply control her as if they are muses.>created a character whose singing voice changed when she became immortal. dorian's singing voice inexplicably began changing on its own to be deep and raspy as well>is convinced her sex dreams with a penis were accurate to having a real penis >'the mostly gay boy i always should've been'>non-binary people don't owe you androgyny blah blah >says she pretends her name isn't Dorian when people are shit-talking about her online >says she has two secret names that she'll never tell anybody that she considers to be her true names. bitch, what's in a name? but also
>alludes to the constant UTIs that FTMs get after phalloplasty>says if you don't want to be misgendered, you should try harder to make people assume your pronouns or just stop caring>warns that transition regrets can be massive and that you should be very careful when considering transitioning No. 1729649
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No. 1729650
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Proserpina doesn’t like to be called out for her negativeness
No. 1730273
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Wait, previously she was claiming it’s all gifted and now says it’s a waist of money. That’s not adding up
No. 1730494
>>1729732The timing was suspicious as fuck. She got human hair extensions, hair installed in the salon which included colour and bleach, high end haircare, a bunch of skincare her followers recommend her and fillers. She's probably on disability because she doesn't work and lives at home but it'd be around $600 AUD a fortnight. Hardly enough to be splurging like that unless she saved previously and her parents don't charge her anything. But if that's the case it makes her asking for money for vet bills look even worse.
>>1730273She's always been a massive grifter, she can't ever keep her story straight. The only time I've ever believed one of her stories was her dog who did in fact need surgery and unfortunately passed away. She didn't deserve to lose her dog but her irresponsible spending and previous history ensured she had to post a bunch of angry/crying stories defending herself from accusations. (Ofc she would just blame her bpd if anyone brought this up). What doesn't make sense in my mind is the fact she said she was too late, so her dog passed away, which I assume means she wasn't able to spend the entirety of the 8k on the surgery or was partially reimbursed and claims to have spent the rest on cremation. I may be wrong but I suspect some of that money didn't go to where she says it did, but it's not like I'd expect her to give it back at that point either.
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>>1730494Samefag. Here's her crying about one of her new skincare items her followers recommend actually having temporary side effects in order to see results (why she didn't research vitamin A beforehand is beyond me) and complaining she can't get multiple plastic surgeries because the surgeon refused her. How she can afford expensive surgeries for herself and not her dog I don't understand? Maybe she was going down the tranny route by trying to get it done through Medicare for ~muh mental wellbeing~ but was refused, idk.
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>>1730496Her chin isn’t really a problem, having Jeffrey Dahmer and co on her arm is. she would look fine without her hideous makeup and body mods.
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>>1730767As much as I like excessive bodymods sometimes I agree she'd look so much better without hers. Her overdone lips are what makes her chin look too small. And her tattoos are an absolute mess, she needs to laser them off or have them blacked out. There is still plenty of negative space she could use for something nice like picrel. Don't know what she could do for that ugly thing on her forehead though besides maybe hiding it under a fringe.
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Speaking of overdone lips
No. 1731204
>>1731166Oh my god help-
It looks horrid.
I’m actually usually a fan of Jazmin’s looks but this is just not cute whatsoever.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Wigs/comments/tjnqmn/need_help_creatingstyling_a_wig_that_looks/Weird that Kai Decadence is gc (his latest Reddit comments are arguing about Buck Angel) but uses reference pics of herbsandalters. He posts more screen caps of Dorian in the comments. First time I’ve seen a gay man try to look like someone who id’s as a gay trans man instead of the reverse.
Kai’s pretty hypocritical imo, he claims to be a radfem ally and against men and womens spaces but used to (and probably still does) post on lolcow knowing it’s female only (spelling Goth with a capital G and promoting his channel and cadaverkellys in the same sentence are some of his giveaways), iirc there was a ‘female’ user on kiwi farms who was suspected to be Kai who would comment about goth in between the Blair White threads. He also used to post his selfies on the sissy subreddits.
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>>1731166Her lips make her look like a tiny chin toad fr
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Avelina De Moray has been quiet other than still slinging her “goth” influencer bags and working on her music… and it is TERRIBLE. She posted this cover and her voice doesn’t seem to suit any song. She needs to be stopped.
No. 1737425
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Jazmin talking like she's gonna sell jewelry that looks as melted as her lips will become
No. 1738378
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Mamie at it again with something that looks like a 10 year old worded it, and the “something bad happened to me, I need you to know, don’t ask what, but it was traumatic and you needed to know”
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Still laughing at ugliness of this picture.
Name my band, lolcor.
No. 1738458
>>1738391Kek. If that's true a large chunk of her audience, edgy 14 year olds, can't afford that.
>>1738394It's giving British
No. 1738758
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Seems like Manson celebrated his birthday yesterday at Kat Von D house
No. 1738771
>>1738758He’s so bloated and fat. It’s genuinely hilarious that Kat Von D is his only friend now.
Given her propensity for starfucking, her delusional aspirations of being a musician, and taste for men who are ugly as shit… I am keeping my fingers crossed for cheating scandal milk. Can you imagine the prayers guy going full cholo and trying to gangbang on Manson kek
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Haha wtf
No. 1738841
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>>1738787KVD is cringe as fuck. Of all the assholes to simp for, she goes for MM?!?
No. 1738862
>>1738841Jesus. Her ability to judge people’s character is hilariously bad. How many times has she been friends with or dated a total piece of shit and it caused her career completely avoidable damage? I know she’s irrelevant now compared to the heyday of her makeup line, but she still has at least one halfway successful shoe business to think about.
Can’t wait to see how this implodes.
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It’s all fun and games until Manson beats your kid with a bat. Seriously side eyeing this parenting choice of having Leafar stand so close to the piñata and MM. or just Leafar being there at all.
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>>1738816unfortunately, it does look like joe mangianello and manson have a preexisting friendship. sofia vergara deserves so much better.
>>1738816 No. 1739063
>>1738872their relationship is giving Dom Mommy Little Boy vibes. she threw him a bday party like a child! and he’s so fcked up with mommy issues… like other anon said they’re probably screwing.
There was some chola chick wannabe Dita Von Teese looking burlesque “model” and aspiring actress who was his assistant. I wonder if her instagram is still public. she posted every b day party she attended. Paulababy is the name. she was his big defender on some derange pick me youtuber when the allegations became public
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Your mental health is gonna come with you girl, it's not a bag you can sell on depop
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IBF has had her second baby, named Montrose Cyril
No. 1741129
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>>1741128Montrose seems to be a surname as well
No. 1741727
>>1738841>>1738862>>1738887She's not misjudging people's characters, don't be naive. This is not a mistake, she knows who and what they are and chooses to be friends with them exactly because of their shittiness, the same shit she herself thinks. No one is fooling her into anything. Assholes are friends with assholes.
>>1739063100% KVD is doing this for him to see her as not-like-the-other-girls, the ultimate alt pick-me Manson's mummy/last woman on earth still pampering him. It's super clear that if they're no fucking she is heavily laying the groung for it… I bet she's already planning on moving to the next husband…
>>1741118Sounds like a name for a drink.
I gotta be honest and say that even considering the whole goth factor, to me her babies names just sound like she's insane. Not even in a tacky or dramatic goth way, fucking weird name combinations. Who in their right mind names a child Montrose? Is he a gay tennist in the 40's? wtf
No. 1742389
>>1738787Late but the Mickey Mouse piñata in the background sent my sides into orbit
>>1738872I don't know who this party looks worse for. KVD for the optics of a Manson party just for the sake of him being "cancelled" as well, or Manson reduced to a child-friendly birthday party with a Mickey Mouse piñata and grocery store cake
No. 1745740
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She claims people have been asking to get tattoos of her mediocre art so she made a flash sheet. Each is £70. Kekk
No. 1745990
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>>1738758I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Vanessa Alexander. She is an ex suicide girl who has had some drama in various circles in the past. She was an extra in Manson's heart shaped glasses video and came out in support of him suddenly which resulted in her being invited out of the blue to this birthday party despite not speaking to him previously for years. She immediately went around social media telling everyone about it too.
No. 1746001
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>>1745990Here's something from an old OT thread that summarizes some of her old milk fairly well for those interested on some of her backstory.
No. 1746185
>>1745990Wow he really was scraping the bottom of the barrel for people to invite. I'm glad to see him lonely and friendliness aside from the pickmes and users ready to pounce on his desperate for friends ass. I have a feeling if we see any more of him it will be almost exclusively with a rotation of people using him for clout then dropping him when they realise he's not valuable anymore. Of course he probably has a couple dedicated scrote friends who've probably raped women and girls too
>>1746001Sorry for spoonfeeding but what is this miscarriage photoshoot? I tried searching for it but just got depressing news articles of girls commuting suicide from miscarriages
No. 1746285
File: 1673903321962.png (Spoiler Image, 882.25 KB, 631x830, vanessaalexandria.png)
>>1746185It's probably been wiped from the internet at this point since it's so old, but I remember seeing the photos ages back when she was still a suicide girl and groupie of the band. Basically it was a sexualized photoshoot themed around a prom miscarriage? Like in a stall, blood on the walls, holding a doll or something. She took it down pretty quickly after a backlash.
This is one of the only old suicide girls photos I could find of her, thankfully due to the farms. Also, I spelled her name wrong in my initial post, it's "Vanessa Alexandria" not Alexander, lmao.
No. 1746524
File: 1674066797681.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 54.79 KB, 399x599, DDBA55F6-FC5C-4F43-9AFD-3CAEC9…)
Oh this shit?
No. 1747879
File: 1674088801940.png (Spoiler Image, 315.2 KB, 606x672, vanessaolddrama.png)
>>1746524that's the one. There were other photos from the same set, but this is definitely from the set mentioned. Thanks anon!
I know the farms are up and down a lot lately so it's hard to keep up on the threads, but here's some other related screenshots in relation to this old cow for anyone interested.
No. 1747883
File: 1674088971689.png (581.28 KB, 733x914, vanessathrowback2006.png)
>>1747879She posts her old photos all the time and retells this story a ton too (popcorn and slimfast). Feels like at least once a year? The claim that girls were eating cotton balls covered in Vaseline is pretty wild though.
No. 1747888
File: 1674089178262.png (Spoiler Image, 1.02 MB, 673x1200, vanessayesimmorbid.png)
>>1747883Used to post a lot of weird shit like this and weird close up photos of herself crying all of the time. Especially around her birthday begging for gifts because "no one loved her". She deleted a lot of those posts but she left a handful of the crying photos up.
Reminder that she's like 40 years old now. So she was like 32 in this specific post. kek
No. 1747892
File: 1674089388445.png (637.89 KB, 756x749, vanessa_accidentalhitlerphotos…)
>>1747888Okay last one for now. She deleted the text that went along with this photo for whatever reason, but the gist of it was that she did a photoshoot with a photographer dressed up as what was supposed to be Edger Allen Poe. The photographer gave her the photos, but said he wasn't comfortable sharing them online because she looked like Hitler in them. This made her go into full blown meltdown mode and post on FB trying to drag the guy and get ass pats per the usual. The comments are all still there. lmao
No. 1748453
File: 1674168640716.jpg (38.16 KB, 407x612, gettyimages-103193262-612x612.…)
>>1748132>>1748143>>1748155There might be an old thread on lolcow somewhere, but this was livejournal era milk so it might be difficult to find. She was a groupie and fucking Die from the japanese band Dir en grey when they first started coming to america to tour. She became obsessed and started trying to tell people she was his girlfriend and Harry from Jrock House eventually turned her away at some point during the tour. She proceeded to have a meltdown about it online for a few years after, but hasn't said much about it in a while now.
No. 1748499
>>1746524Holy shit wtf? I get that few things were off limits for Myspace and Suicide Girls shoots but what kind of an adult would think of teen miscarriage as an edgy tantalizing shoot? Sounds like an idiot coming up with as crazy nonsense as she can for attention
>>1747888>yes that's real bloodKek, Hammer film colour, no smears and clean drips, minimal blood after two hours and nothing dried and brown. Sure Jan
No. 1748575
>>1747879So was she a groupie of 30 Seconds To Mars too?? She says in the post they "were family" to her at a point in time. Or she’s just saying that for attention?
I mean, considering what you’ve Nonnas already shared here + knowing Jared Leto’s nature, wouldn’t be particularly outrageous…
No. 1748593
File: 1674187267634.png (360.37 KB, 394x646, manson2004.png)
>>1748499>yes that's real blood>yes I'm morbidI just think it's hilarious some 32 year old woman thought taking bloody nose photos was edgy and cool.
>>1748486Me too
nonny. The jrock fandom was full of deranged obsessive cows too.
>>1748575Having followed her since her early drama, she was notorious for being a groupie and exaggerating her connections with artists.
No. 1748597
File: 1674187453282.png (443.7 KB, 579x663, mansonnudes.png)
>>1748593He took nudes of her around this time too.
No. 1748602
File: 1674187759729.png (466.08 KB, 897x445, openvagshots.png)
>>1748597Here's another time she shared this exact photo and a fun comment about how Manson took many "open vag shots" of her.
No. 1748760
File: 1674206544460.png (1.08 MB, 592x889, definitelynothitler.png)
>>1747892Found a photo from her "poe" photoshoot. lmao
No. 1748762
File: 1674206763909.png (229.61 KB, 376x503, edgarapoe.png)
>>1748760Poe had a full mustache and curly hair. Like???
No. 1748788
File: 1674213235238.png (62.31 KB, 666x703, deadsy.png)
>>1748763She's definitely like a less cracked out Amanda in some ways. Vanessa still lives at home with her 70yo mother and works part-time jobs at Spirit Halloweens or random events. Still calls herself a model even though she all her shoots are for fun and never published anywhere. Has a really difficult time holding any kind of real job. Her drama peaked during her suicide girls groupie days and into her alcoholic years. She's a little boring now that she's sober, but she still goes around claiming to be besties with random band dudes constantly even though she's like 40 years old now. lmao
No. 1748794
File: 1674214475679.png (165.95 KB, 901x927, vanessafarms.png)
>>1748132>>1748453Found more info on the Die situation on another old jrock post in the farms for those interested in a few more details.
No. 1748818
File: 1674216548113.png (52.85 KB, 667x589, diepregnancy.png)
>>1748794Did some digging and couldn't find the video mentioned, but did find this post she made in 2016 talking about the whole thing.
No. 1750200
File: 1674401425498.jpg (498.96 KB, 1080x2306, Screenshot_20230122_010205_Twi…)
19 year old jazmin is now dating a 25-ish year old.
No. 1750478
File: 1674445574588.jpeg (583.36 KB, 1125x1990, 7682A1D2-0ACC-4B49-AD32-66C703…)
Kat is definitely the new MM cult princess. Rafael must be sweating that his meal ticket might get tired of his irrelevant untalented ass.
No. 1751363
File: 1674561598743.jpg (765.39 KB, 1079x1868, Screenshot_20230124-115436.jpg)
Cow on Instagram, pedo pandering and generally just retarded looking. Has a free onlyfans. Sends orbiters after haters.
No. 1751364
File: 1674561632204.jpg (119.29 KB, 1048x590, Screenshot_20230124-115350.jpg)
samefag
No. 1751366
File: 1674562336893.jpg (134.98 KB, 1080x802, Screenshot_20230124-121052.jpg)
>>1751364double samefag for more pictures
so alternative…..
No. 1751931
File: 1674648169798.jpg (581.81 KB, 1079x1409, Screenshot_20230125-120248.jpg)
>>1751363Bestgirlkatt is retarded, ugly and a cheap whore!
No. 1752245
File: 1674679460533.png (951.39 KB, 1000x1000, Untitled19_20230125204116.png)
>>1752223No1curr nona, its always cheap factory smelling garbage in the end that you never keep for too long, mostly just impulsive buying. I bought a shirt from there once and it smelled like chemicals. Didn't feel like cute clothes to me when I'm being knocked out by the smell..collagechanning
No. 1752818
File: 1674753203454.jpg (446.92 KB, 1078x1915, Screenshot_20230126-190201_Ins…)
If ya want more cows here maybe we can post Astrid here. She used to be posted in instagrammers you hate, But there wasn't a new tread made after the second one. Astrid is going back to her black metal roots again if anyone here knows the milk about her.
Also someone should check on Adam the nationalist. How is he doing after the break up?
No. 1753411
File: 1674783327772.jpg (884.06 KB, 1080x2280, Screenshot_20230121_022519_Twi…)
Pls she's overfilled her lips so much that it's migrating to a ring around her mouth
No. 1754588
File: 1674896012769.jpg (264.29 KB, 1080x1641, Screenshot_20230128-195233__01…)
She's been baiting deactivation since well before the new year but this genuinely made me die of secondhand embarassment.
No. 1755849
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No. 1755852
File: 1675011223819.jpeg (122.44 KB, 811x1080, 7786583E-C2F3-41CD-BAD1-13BD43…)
Mamie’s OF content has leaked, and besides besides her boobs and stupid lingerie poses there is this gem.
No. 1755937
File: 1675020550487.jpg (219.26 KB, 1080x876, Screenshot_YouTube.jpg)
>>1755865Same, among her mostly mediocre stuff she has some good ones and I like her aesthetic, but this ain't it. This was what she started with
No. 1755998
File: 1675024187534.jpeg (173.55 KB, 689x695, A53E528B-EDED-4876-BC8E-ABAC70…)
Just type in “mamiehades onlyfans leak” into google image search.
Amusing to think someone who begs for money every month is going to be able to hire a lawyer with the competency to track whoever leaks her shit and successfully sue them.
No. 1756019
>>1755937wow, never knew she was actually kind of cute under the stupid looking makeup, she really ruined her face.
>>1755852>>1755998I don't know what it is about this particular cow, but it always smells like a selfpost to me when she pops up even though I know it likely isn't always the case. She just gives me the biggest "anything for attention" vibes.
No. 1756193
>>1756000She has some chronic pain disorder. She typically uses it for pity points, since it’s the only time she brings it up.
>>1756019She is the queen of needing attention. She posts about how bad 90% of her life supposedly is and throws a tantrum at every corner.
No. 1756201
>>1755849'i contacted the site i had photos leaked to' is it just me, or does that make it sound like she had photos intentionally leaked? either that or miss girl is bad at grammar kek it wouldn't surprise me if she had pics leaked for attention. especially unsurprising with how crusty and ugly she looks. from the leaked pics i've seen, it's all very low-effort, much like jude bishop. not sure why she's making a big deal of them being leaked. cry about it? kek
>>1755852ah yes, much inspired, not low-effort at all. she thinks this is… worth money? kek she has an average/pudgy body, is either bare-faced which needs a jumpscare warning or has her shaky-handed sharpie elvira wanna-be makeup on.
>>1755998as a fellow bisexual disabled person… we don't claim her kek this is not the way to go about it if you want to make money. she needs to quit complaining on the internet, get off her lazy ass, and get a full-time job like the rest of us. sage for blogposting but god damn, she's such an annoying cow
No. 1756387
File: 1675066976994.jpg (227.8 KB, 1419x1080, 20230101_161008.jpg)
Raven apparently has a TikTok these days & it's her most active platform. But I don't use that app & the link on her YouTube is broken. Still with Josh, living in a garage with 10 (TEN!!) cats. She's a registered foster cat mom in the state of Michigan, bc of course she is. Both unemployed, Josh is selling plasma for money. So it's safe to assume the 25 Christmas gifts did not happen this year. Most of her YouTube is contacts, makeup & wig reviews now, but she still rambles about personal shit through most of them. No idea how she affords so much shit when she claims she's never been this broke (she has codes for the contacts, so she seems like she's sponsored? But she has hardly any viewers anymore). She's started taking Zoloft for depression (started self harming again), & wishes she'd taken it sooner, claims it might've helped her have a better relationship with her parents. She keeps falling & injuring herself, in the most recent YouTube video (Dec 30) she seems like she might be on something. Very sluggish & out of it.
Was debating posting some videos to back up these claims, but most of the more interesting/related ones are already around a year old. Have a picture from her most recent video instead!
No. 1756661
>>1756626It used to be arachne.araneae but that's defunct now. I've been searching but it's hard without an account.
Public Instagram is a.dream.undone & she uses it frequently
Facebook is facebook.com/Icon.of.pale.bone
No. 1762810
File: 1675757357410.jpeg (453.2 KB, 1123x2077, 6C23BEA0-4005-43A0-8C0B-91E626…)
Stumbled upon IBF commenting under Llewelyn’s post about his painting for Manson as his birthday gift. I thought maybe she just likes the artistry but…..
No. 1762816
File: 1675757539947.jpeg (80.52 KB, 1125x894, A39591C7-75D9-486C-B5B8-1F5BDA…)
……it seems that Freya is still a fan of MM, the alleged rapist and nonce.
No. 1763391
File: 1675816410688.jpg (817.87 KB, 1274x1920, 23-02-05-19-32-55-972_deco.jpg)
Well,this comment did not stay up for long.
(picture from Gwens Instagram last week)
Coalcandy's girlfriend Gwen Refurin (not sure about her name) is definitely a mini-me of Adora Batbrat now.
It's a bit creepy if he used to have a thing with A.B.
Not sure if this is gossip, but it is news worthy. If not, I'm sorry.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1763435
>>1763391Don't cowtip anon, cowtipping is when you post or tag a cow to provoke them and screenshot it.
You'll get a ban for the above but you're right that her makeup looks like adora's, particularly the inner eye lines.
No. 1764834
File: 1675999402646.png (2.07 MB, 1170x2532, E074F1D0-383A-4307-8D97-F00039…)
Can’t be assed to do her job of making content, will make questionable spending decisions.
No. 1765968
File: 1676148883290.jpg (182.42 KB, 1080x498, Screenshot_20230211_215016_Twi…)
She's too broke now to have proper food? Is she trying to get pitty from people?
No. 1766075
File: 1676160680783.jpg (798.08 KB, 1080x2019, Screenshot_20230211_184927_Ins…)
Jazmin's friend is detransitioning after being on hormones as a teen. Better late than never I guess but the amount of lasting damage.
No. 1767273
File: 1676302769938.jpg (371.88 KB, 1080x1285, Instag.jpg)
>>1766663Serving cunt is just an expression. But I agree, while I guess it's sad he might've been pressured as a child, he'd better not be supportive of troons after this.
>litle man titsKek
>>1766997Same
>>1767028Oh? I know Salvia's original account got deleted so his pics are missing. Didn't know jazmin deleted hers. I checked and their latest picture in her feed right now was in 2021. Wonder what happened, the detransition or just grew apart. With parma I think salvia broke up with him.
No. 1768435
File: 1676441729314.jpeg (210.56 KB, 856x1496, 73B472C3-CEA6-4D62-870C-E75FB9…)
Corny ass mf’ers. I guess KVD and Rafael are committed to the MM cult. Even after this new suit was filed against him:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/marilyn-manson-sued-sexual-assault-minor-1234670671/amp/ No. 1768438
File: 1676441981405.jpeg (333.88 KB, 1125x1990, DD308068-BBC1-49A8-91C6-856374…)
I guess Raf is wearing platforms tonight?
No. 1768464
File: 1676445970129.jpeg (1.63 MB, 3465x3465, 1EF90EE0-E264-4ED4-92AD-066087…)
Found very recent unphotoshopped photo of Victoria. I don’t understand why she’s photoshopping so much, she’s not ugly at all
No. 1768484
>>1767915I get what you mean, but this is an actual issue she talked at lenght about and for years, it's important to her, it wouldn't be a reach if she watched the movie because she liked the theme and chose the name from there. As it could be harry potter too, I guess. whatever
>>1768438I see this lindsay yu is part of the KVDMM clique, she's always there, always commenting on stuff from them, has posted pics on her profile supporting MM… Who is she? any milk on her?
>>1768464wtf? she's actually pretty. I guess that she is obssessed with the extreme plastic surgery/fillers look but doesn't have the money to actually get shit done. Clearly she wanted to be half her size and weight so she must see herself as if she was Luna Slater
No. 1768652
>>1768484Ayrt and yeah, I mean, one thing doesn't exclude the other, the movie could have had some subconscious (or not that subconscious) influence on her.
>>1768438Is it the curse of the B-C-D…Z list alt woman to be a pickme and date/marry hideous men? I know that for many girls it's almost inevitable to suffer at some point some sort of nlogism because any alternative scene that isn't female-only is sexist as hell and mixed friend groups have the worst dynamics when it comes to women interacting with other women. Not that pickme and nlog are the same but you know what I mean, these women date trash and are proud of it.
No. 1769683
File: 1676575796674.jpg (Spoiler Image, 557.94 KB, 2880x2880, 20230216_192712.jpg)
>>1769437And now he's a they/them, and recently been wearing ugly bdsm inspired outfits for media attention. Such outfits can look really cool but these really don't, and they look chafing kek. All the people yass kweening posts about it act like they're so cutting edge for liking him now and everyone else is a karen, but an eyesore is an eyesore.
No. 1770469
File: 1676663966441.jpeg (291.96 KB, 1122x2004, AC9FB34A-BF41-4DBD-8233-35DB0F…)
MM isn’t the only nonce that Kat von D has been supporting. She can’t say that: oh, don’t fall into the trap of cancel culture when you don’t know the situation.
Bitch, Mr. Kitty admitted to the accusation.
https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2021-07-08/after-dark-singer-mr-kitty-exchanged-explicit-messages-with-underage-fan/ No. 1773916
File: 1677045239303.jpeg (300.71 KB, 1124x1566, 4DF2F071-B18C-44BA-9F23-EC61D8…)
Reeree is back on IG after a 3 year hiatus.
No. 1774054
File: 1677056491179.jpeg (1.48 MB, 3829x2872, 69095922-73EF-41D3-B1F3-0FE972…)
cp bump don’t scroll
No. 1774098
File: 1677063309470.jpg (235.06 KB, 1080x1867, Screenshot_20230222-125330_Fac…)
She also lurks here for years now.
No. 1774211
File: 1677077919003.jpeg (226.71 KB, 828x1364, 966ACDC2-A37D-4079-9FE9-631D2C…)
>>1774177She’s doing a q&a right now
No. 1774340
>>1774305Not the anon you’re responding to, but that’s what you said and implied. You also didn’t sage which would give the impression that it’s milk but you didn’t elaborate. Maybe you don’t know what “lurk” means?
Anyway, I’m happy for her. It’s nice to see one of these “cows” make something of themselves in the real world…especially when they have children to take care of. I personally never considered her a cow at all. Just seemed like anons were mostly angry that she kind of clung on to the goth tag for content when she was really just a metalhead. I don’t recall anything actually milky happening with her.
No. 1774510
>>1774125Ive been following her on her private account @igotamultipass for a few months now, she mentioned going to court for an
abusive relationship, so I wonder if this was @alterd_mind, the father of her child and her ex who used to take all her pictures, or someone else she dated in between breaking up with him and now.
No. 1774522
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>>1774510100% someone else. She also responded to a question about making an OF which seemed to imply this rancid ex. I highly doubt she would talk about Mr. Phillips in such a positive light if it were him she was talking about.
No. 1774524
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No. 1775223
File: 1677176204286.jpeg (403.04 KB, 1124x2003, 66DD7339-A49F-4112-A996-0E8C09…)
This is weird af, doesn’t adora have the same or similar tattoos?
No. 1775855
>>1775751Yess give us nothing hunty!
You need to attach an image or something, OP of what? Posting what?
No. 1776445
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No. 1776605
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No. 1776640
File: 1677352470023.gif (3.36 MB, 498x331, not-waynes-world.gif)
>>1776605Oh, we'll listen..
No. 1777760
File: 1677429933799.jpg (504.67 KB, 1080x1761, Instagram_022023.jpg)
There was discussion itt of jazmin and salvia not being friends anymore, I guess they still are and just not as close as before. They both look awful kek, and because of jazmin's overfilling she looks like she's eating a lemon
No. 1779401
File: 1677615380362.jpg (64.11 KB, 480x270, hqdefault.jpg)
Does Jade the Libra have any milk on her.
I've started watching her content for cleaning and enjoy seeing someone who is alt/goth in that niche on youtube.
No. 1781338
File: 1677813670676.jpg (600.38 KB, 1080x2019, Wut.jpg)
>she looks like she's eating a lemon
Looking more like she's about to throw up
No. 1782908
File: 1677997963572.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 464.4 KB, 828x981, 5D4FB540-7B9E-4C44-A8DB-90F65B…)
Has anyone ever talked about this cow? I only know her because she models for forest inks clothing and I happened upon her in my Twitter recommended. Anyways seems her boyfriend and her have just broken up and she’s been all over Twitter and the gram thirst trapping and subtweeting about needing a boyfriend and being depressed. She has a bunch of kids. Her body is hilarious. Picrel. Just curious if anybody else has observed her milk. Unsaged for possible milk. Her @ is vampxgore.
>>1779401 Also about jade i do not have milk but after watching a few of her videos randomly after classes she seems like she’s a hoarder or has serious depression issues, even in the depths of my own emotions I’ve never let my home get to the quality of hers. Disgusting.
No. 1784103
>>1784099She has kids by multiple men so she seems to be fairly good at relationships
Her latest saga she keeps posting things like “someone take me out” or like a scrote will ask her anonymously if she would like be interested in going out with them and she’s like “my dms are open” it really reads as desperate, to be fair I think women can be fat and still attractive but she’s got a real hatchet face kek
No. 1784693
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I would not let Mamie touch hair if she thinks this one tone dried out mess is a success.
No. 1784972
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Dorian proves yet again to be a lurker. Posted this comment in r/ofherbsandaltars and later posted a rant about the same thing on instagram. People on Reddit found old blogs of Dorian and people he has romanticized the fuck out of in his story times (Ash/James).
No. 1784979
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No. 1784981
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No. 1785397
>>1784981This sounds so retarded. She’s a grown arse woman, and far not the most intellectually challenged one, and here she is acting all immature with the whole morally superior edgelord spiel
> how would you fucking feel if someone read and discussed your baby sister’s diary online?Well, if you don’t want people to go through your "underwear" or "your baby sister’s diary" then don’t publish it online ffs. Especially on platforms that are
intended for people’s interaction and forum-like discussions. If you want to keep something private, then just keep it to yourself, like how hard can it get??
You can’t have cake and eat it too, Dorian, since you’re lurking here. You
chose to be in the public eye as your job instead of having a regular, more private one. This is just part of the gig, take it or leave it.
You had no issue hardcore capitalising off of Ash’s "underwear", both in video and written format, and still are gaining a regular income from it now, day in and day out. Even though, by your own word, he "never put himself out there" and "values privacy the most".
And somehow now, the nasty mean people on the internet – your own followers – are the ones at fault because they google his 'name', and all this shit that you have exposed comes up, and they are able to lurk? The people are the ones invading his and your other friends’ privacy by reading something that is already out there, not the one who plasters their shit all over the web and capitalises off of it? REALLY? Kek, check your own morals.
No. 1785422
>>1784972Dorian sure is crazy and romanticizes stuff but I agree with her in this one, it's true.
BUT! Right after he sounds like a legit lunatic in this one!
>>1784979This is fucking bonkers! just delete the posts if you don't want people to read them, for fucks sake!!! "If I delete my diaries, huge projects will be canceled!" BITCH POUH-LEASE! "Consensual reading"!!! For real, this is pure delusional madness.
>>1785397100% this, thank you for speaking what I could barely put into words because of how shocked I was at this
No. 1786488
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Wow, so fascinating a moid who raped and murdered his little sister. When is she going to drop the edgy obsession with the literal scum of this planet?
No. 1786695
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Kat Von D Birthday party
No. 1786697
File: 1678552987512.jpg (8.59 KB, 300x300, 31h5l5GAUKL._SY300_.jpg)
>>1786695Who wore it better
No. 1786821
>>1786695So… are they..??
>>1786697Kek
No. 1787687
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>>1787336As embarrassing as it is I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one. I always had a thing for guys with horse faces
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>>1787687are you the yoshiki posting anon by any chance?
>>1788215she was bragging about her other groupie behavior all over fb recently again too.
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cp on the mtf thread don't scroll
No. 1788827
>>1788457Do you not realize that when mentally ill women get their egos bruised by anyone they go on full blown years long disingenuous smear campaigns to ruin their lives?
Evan has BPD. Amber has BPD. Same with every other ego driven batshit insane girl in the goth scene. Figure it out
(sage your shit) No. 1788828
>>1788457Do you not realize that when mentally ill women get their egos bruised by anyone they go on full blown years long disingenuous smear campaigns to ruin their lives?
Evan has BPD. Amber has BPD. Same with every other ego driven batshit insane girl in the goth scene. Figure it out
(sage your shit) No. 1788830
>>1788457Do you not realize that when mentally ill women get their egos bruised by anyone they go on full blown years long disingenuous smear campaigns to ruin their lives?
Evan has BPD. Amber has BPD. Same with every other ego driven batshit insane girl in the goth scene. Figure it out
No. 1789151
>>1788896AYRT, she was actually 19 but I do get and understand the discomfort, it was a huge age gap and I don't approve of it but she was not a minor, that's just the reality.
He's scuzzy for dating women half his age and that will always be unsettling to me but by the law, it's not a crime.
That aside, I'm still taking my time looking into this so I'm not on anyone's side at this time and want to continue looking more into the case.
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>>1789534I bet you’re even okay with women calling their boyfriends daddy in bed lol that’s literally incest sweaty
(sage your shit) No. 1789830
>>1763052Youtube was trying to make me watch this video for like fucking weeks. I was really confused as to why there was a following for this band at all because the frontwoman had like zero charisma, but I was like 'maybe the live shows are better'. Now I know.
>>1788896My theory is that it was consensual, if creepy, at the time. 19-year-old girls are impressionable and BDSM is edgy. Manson at 30 was - what, 1999? so was also at his peak celebrity (looks as well imo). Most of the 'abuse' she describes sounded like lifestyle BDSM activities that she might've committed to and then had regrets about later. And sure, Manson's a creep for dating a teenager, but it also kind of feels like ERW is doing this for clout because she no longer has a career. Her accusations are never going to result in a court case or legal consequences for Manson, but they do keep people discussing
her.
No. 1790081
>>1789945She probably had to sign a contract to be in that video half-naked how could she possibly raped on camera
Also regardless of whether he is a rapist or not he's still a degen for being into BDSM in the first place. The "BDSM lifestyle" shouldn't be thing, even if it's consensual anyone who gets off on seeing their partner in pain should be locked up
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She's been posting about this for like two weeks now
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Please someone make a new Kaya thread. She just admitted that the patreon money is there to pay her bills kek
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BUMP, Don't scroll nonnies CP!!
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>>1802572>>1802617This is from her patreon. Did she state somewhere else what the patreon was now for? This information could be unupdated, in that case she should be more explicit about the actual purpose of the patreon. I wonder if we should expect new fluctuations of patreons.
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Her biggest selling point for her Patreon is links to her streams, which isn't even listed on the description for her tiers. The discord is something she literally said she wants to delete because it frustrates her, so completely ignore that description.
But you don't need to be a Patron to watch the streams, you just need the link because it's unlisted. Also, she never streams. But yeah, support Kaya's Patreon because she wants to party and doesn't want to work to pay bills.
https://www.youtube.com/live/tRzyLHdBAZc?feature=sharehttps://www.youtube.com/live/tRzyLHdBAZc?feature=share No. 1802636
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No. 1802645
>>1802639It's for whatever the fuck the creator decides to put it towards, retard. There's no golden rule of patreon, or ANY content creation site, that says you have to put the money you make towards only your content and nothing else. If you think that's what all creators on patreon do with earnings, you are genuinely stupid and inexperienced.
Also, Jake was donated the money on a STREAM, not Patreon. Or must all youtube stream donations legally go towards content creation as well? These Jake wk's are incapable of critical thinking.
No. 1802649
>>1802646Simping for who? I was just making a comparison between using money on rent & monster trucks KEK.
Meanwhile this retard
>>1802639 thinks virtual clothing and big trucks that go vroom is a good use of donations.
No. 1802654
>>1802642Ntayrt but if she says here
>>1802636 that her patreon is for
showing support for her channel but almost nothing she spends that money on reaches her channel in any form (no Vlogs, no GRWM, no nothing) then she's simply lying. If she wants to spend all that money on bills and trips that's fine but she better not pretend that her patreons are helping her making more and better YT content. And the
gain eternal love is just laughable when there's no interaction between her and her patreons. Stumpy is in a whole different level.
No. 1802656
>>1802645>>1802642>>1802641Calm down, you can still be Mommy Kaya's special little Patron sugar daddy, no obligations required to put out.
>>1802649Is there a new Kaya thread? This is exactly why they were separated, all of the Kaya WK's junking up the Altcows thread, frothing at the mouth.
No. 1802661
For the nonas complaining about no milk. Scamming people for money is milk and having the audacity to even admit it so blatantly is cow behavior.
>>1802656Do you have better milk to post? No? Thought so.
No. 1802663
>>1802659Nta, but she doesn't like being called mommy because of how big she is and how she's mentally 18, so that's supposed to be an insult,
nonny, but it went over your head.
No. 1802678
>>1802668Promising to spend his donations on content isn't that milky, if anything it's showing off how he's getting more support than Kaya nowadays. She barely got donations in her last stream, and her YouTube view count has tanked from inactivity. Patreon is her only significant income, and she just shamelessly promoted it when she's posted nothing on it in months. Fake might not get a lot of views nowadays, but he's still putting out more regular content than her, bar the sickness he was whinging about last week.
But this is how these cows both have always operated. Kaya has never released regular content in her life, not even now when she isn't spending all of Fake's money for him. Now she's spending her Patron's money instead, kek.
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>>1802654>>1802625Kaya hasn't updated her Patreon description in years, even when she's promised to do so after the breakup. She still has this tweet from 2015 pinned, which makes it look like that's the last notable thing that's happened. And she still uses images from her teens and early twenties to advertise, the Twitter banner and Patreon banner are both dated too. It's amazing how much low effort content she can put out and still pretend that YouTube work is so hard. She's freshly back in Belfast and already crying on Instagram that she doesn't yet have travel plans in April.
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>>1802486Well getting pets seems a better option, I didn't even know assisted murder (c'mon, the goverment knocking you off is nothing else) was legal in Australia
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>>1802719fake hasn’t changed his much either, hasn’t vlogged in idk how long and barely posts any content outside. his last patreon post was feb 25; he’s using old photos on all his banners and ppl are still subscribed to his onlyfans even though he doesn’t regularly update that either.
what exactly is he giving ppl that are donating to his streams/patreon? last youtube vid was him seething over ppl making “vain writhing” tiktoks and bitching about his hair yet again. oh and claiming he got scammed for that avatar and how much he spent etc.
No. 1802842
>>1802638>renting a monster truck for a music videokek. I'm sorry, but what? This is such a weird white trash American thing to do
>>1802678>it's showing off how he's getting more support than Kaya nowadays.While I think Kaya is still kind of a cow, this just isn't true. Just take a peek at any of their social media pages or income through those canals. Jake is still bleeding subs, Kaya's semi-inactivity mostly just has her at a standstill as far as growing her channel. She also updates her social media far more often than Jake does his, but he does do more youtube uploads though he likely does a similar amount of actual filming for them considering he splits up one video into three separate ones to upload. They're both kind of lazy in different ways if anything.
No. 1802930
>>1802646you keep saying this after posting something critical about Kaya then comparing her negatively to Jake, when Jake does the same damn shit AND is an actual bad person. this makes YOU sound like a Jake simp, as being lazy is never going to be worse than having delusions of grandeur and being actually nasty and
abusive to others.
you can't gas light other farmers into thinking theyre white-knighting kaya whenever you end a sentence with "at least Jake and Skat do xyz."
if you want to see less pushback, try saying "kaya did… " without bringing up jake. as long as you keep bringing up Jake in a positive light, you're going to get comments that read as "defensive" over kaya. because who on this green earth would defend Jake except Jake or skat or some moid or pickme who identifies with him or the dumb as rocks side chick? get it?
No. 1802961
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I was feeling artistic.
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New Jake video out now. How anyone stans this retarded scrote the world may never know.
No. 1803035
>>1803015remember the funny comments left by his ex snacc on HIS onlyfans porn page? "daddy!" "
meow" "I'm so wet for daddy" the fact that it was a man with a crush was too funny. he should be laughing hard at himself, but if I recall correctly he ended up blocking and refunding men, ha
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Kaya did another Q&A while traveling back home from London. She addresses the traveling expenses again and claims that she hasn't been spending as much as it might seem? Impossible to say if true or not though for any skeptic anons.
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She also gave a rough update in regards to when to expect a new YT video, Sunday or Monday. So in a few more days if she follows through. She still seems to be planning on sorting out the vlogs, but I guess we will see? She also said she doesn't have anymore travel plans for the rest of this month, just preparing for the events in May.
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>>1803035>>1803015I don't know about you all but I think he's been killing it with his recent uploads tbh. kek
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This week, on Jake's Bad Takes: a fundamental misunderstanding of how the human body works! Misogyny, and advocating for sexual harassment! He thinks men should be able to walk around showing their boners, and equates it to women having hard nipples, as if they are comparable in the slightest. A very interesting take, considering he claims not to view breasts sexually. Just when I thought my ick for this guy couldn't get any ickier.
No. 1803215
>>1802961>>1803143Very nice!
>>1803110Any bets on what kind of video it will be?
No. 1803239
>>1803183I had to look for myself after seeing that, kek.
Nonny took it out of context, it's clearly a joke. What a letdown, it's just him reading the scrote comment and making fun of it. Sounds more like he's insinuating there are other, more important double standards a person could complain about.
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>>1803252This is talking about her basic bitch alt getup she wore to Slimelight, of all events. Coincidentally, the nipple reveal she did at Monster Queen was kudos to a cheap AliExpress top completely falling apart on the first wear. Can't wait to see what this goth fashion icon wears to the next event she hosts, kek.
No. 1804132
>>1803263>cheap thighs and lingerieBleak
>>1803189Kek
No. 1804135
>>1803239Watch it again then. He straight up agrees and calls the comparison double standards. There's literally no other way to spin it. Actually can't believe you're making excuses for that scrote, unless you are one. Disappointed in you,
nonny.
No. 1804180
>>1803273I agree tbh, she clearly has an issue with procrastinating. Though it definitely would have been near impossible for her to do all the recent vlogs since she was traveling so close together this time around. She could have gotten started on Vegas though at the very least.
>>1803288When was the last time she actually used these excuses? I swear it's been at least a year or more now. I feel like ever since she moved into the house we haven't been hearing them. Funny how things always mysteriously "broke" when Jake was around though.
>>1803263>kaya needs to stop wasting patreon money>kaya needs to spend money on more clothesThe outfit was bad (mostly due to the ugly high wasted panties and awful eyeshadow) but it's kind of understandable she's trying to keep costs low right now. Most the clothes in her closet already aren't really club wear either.
No. 1804312
>>1804180>When was the last time she actually used these excuses?I guess I can't prove it because she always puts said excuses into stories and I don't screenshot her 20 odd daily posts, but she definitely has done things like this recently. Didn't she forget her part 2 of opening subscriber gifts video? There were months between them. The london blog was never made, was it? I'll try to save these in the future, anyways.
>>1804197This is somewhat relevant because she posts a story about being too lazy to work about once a week.
No. 1804401
>>1804312sorry
nonnie. I try to click through her stories as often as I can be bothered to remember to and I don't remember seeing any of those excuses in particular, but I could have missed them too.
>>1804312>>1804329She posted part 1 & 2, but I also vaguely recalled there being a part three too? She originally didn't want to post the part 2 because she hated how she looked with her makeup running in the harsh lighting, but she went on to post it anyway much later. I just clicked through it and she doesn't seem to mention a part three so maybe there wasn't and we're just thinking of how long it took for the part two? Correct me if I'm wrong though of course.
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>>1804401Found it, it was her pinned comment that made me think there was more
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Out again.
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>>1804922Agee I don't understand she gets so much free stuff from killstar every month.i not yet seen her in anything only hoodie she has Sinch she was 12 years old. Those fishnets shorts are bad. I don't know what she going do when she turns 30
No. 1804992
>>1804989Kek are you writing "Jake is a bad guy" fanfiction or something? Post proof, not all these assumptions. He gives plenty of milk. MAG is gone except for one out of context clip about child discipline, not exactly a lot to lurk on there.
Maybe Kaya just like having her ass and tits out right now because she's hyperfixating on lingerie as an aesthetic. She has style seasons she flips through depending on what grabs her dodo bird attention span, something she's stated numerous times before.
No. 1805003
>>1804954Idk about other nonnies, but I'm mostly judging mid-thirties Kat for using things like gaming, kawaii, and e-girl subcultures, for porn. When she actually has never had any interest in those things at all before. She doesn't dress that way or partake in those subcultures outside the bedroom. It's incredibly laughable in the gaming community for girls to pretend to be into videogames for male attention. (see gamer girl stereotypes). And it's offensive in the kawaii community to conflate it with porn, which she does. It is different if that person lives the kawaii lifestyle, but to be a normie who fetishizes the fashion is a huge red flag. This mid-thirties woman with a child is openly into DDLG, which is a kink rooted in pedophilia. For her to be into this things all of a sudden, is truly pathetic and creepy. Kaya on the other hand had always had this fashion style, and had never used video games to attract male attention. For example, when she streams games she usually dresses down. We all know how many girl gamer streamers are, so for her to do that is actually commendable. She doesn't have a partner or a child, so she can travel and drink and even sleep around if she wants.
No. 1805011
>>1804992Lol ok newfag. Tell me you've never seen any MAG content or been in these threads before the breakup without telling me.
>are you writing "Jake is a bad guy" fanfiction or somethingWhere did all these scrotey Jake WKs come from? Go back to cucking for your Daddy's adopted family. The proof is all in the pudding, retard.
No. 1805020
>>1804989You need to go outside or take a pill or something. Adults don't suddenly do the opposite like a rebelling teenager unless they are fully retarded. This is just tinfoiling like the other
nonnie said
No. 1805039
>>1805025MAG viewer here, i don't remember Jake insulting her breasts. He was very vocal that he doesn't find breasts sexual at all, and especially doesn't like large ones. If Kaya found that offensive, it's more likely because she likes her own breasts more than he would have liked her ass. It's not like she posts any photos of her ass, i doubt she finds it to be her best angle. Because it isn't, looking at her from the rear is like checking out a linebacker, kek. They are two deeply incompatible people who made each other miserable, but that doesn't mean not finding boobs sexual is inherently weird. Jake is so easy to criticize, why is this the hill you're dying on,
nonnie.
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>>1805074I actually remember reading this ages ago, figured i would add it to this charcuterie board nonnies are building.
No. 1805087
>>1804954poor Jake was bashed why cant we bash kaya more wahhhhh!
AT LEAST JAKE DID THIS AND JAKE DID THAT! lay off my cheating piece of shit hero.
kaya went partying with friends again, she's such a horrible person. and that's that!
No. 1805128
>>1804992>writing "jake is a bad guy" fanfictionThe Jake WKs itt are wild. Like this isn't old news. kek
>>1805087>Kaya is a dumb lazy whore if she stays home. >Kaya is a dumb lazy whore if she goes out. >Kaya is a dumb lazy whore if she makes content.>Kaya is a dumb lazy whore if she doesn't make content.I don't think it really matters to them what she does and doesn't do at this point. The "on Jake's dime!" anon is clearly a WK whose hung up on her doing literally anything at this point. Tbh, I think Kaya still has a lot of growing to do as a person and that she is still a big procrastinator. However, considering this is her first time free of the miserable scrote always bringing her down, it's unsurprising she's enjoying her new found freedom for a bit. If she's still pulling this same exact shit within another year I might change my tune though.
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New mini vlog from Jake's trip to the tattoo event where Kat tattooed him. Tbh, the vlog itself is incredibly boring and not really worth a watch as you mostly just see footage of random people getting tattooed at the event with some basic music put over the footage. The later half of the video is just him riding around the countryside on his bike, but he does provide a few minor updates. He's selling his other bike, the Honda Rebel, to pay for the next music video because, in his words, he lives in a creative and cultural wasteland where he cannot find videographers who are willing to work for cheap or for exposure. He will be traveling to film the next video because of this and he is selling his bike to fund this, but he does not say where. Also, any extra money leftover is going to tattoos I guess? Otherwise the only other interesting information he provided is that his vtuber "persona" is literally "Munro", the "solo artist" whatever that means and that he won't be doing vlogs anymore in the future, even when he's away on holiday, because he doesn't like doing them.
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>>1805175half the people in the crowd at the show she went to are wearing shorts or short skirts too, who cares. This isn't milk.
No. 1805196
>>1805176…. she didn't go home, ohhh, shamey shamey jk. she didn't go home once, which is even more understandable that she chose to wear those shorts for the club, after her "cold" visit to the beach.
you would be freaking out over all the ass cheeks and bare torsos, and bikini tops you'd see in a beach town or even the gym with workout bras and body suits and see-through tight leggings.
amish anon, just move on. kaya wearing shorts and showing some side titty at a club isn't milk. it's barely colostrum or even artificial creamer to put in 'tea'.
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Sure why not she gets money from begging from people who feel sorry for her out with her friend doing her hair she have pay for that .but sure that's ok as she special not a cow .soon enough people see true this I'm victim.no I don't support Jake or Kate as they are all as bad .in it for free money.but she milking been victim using it .I give it year she still be acting like child
No. 1805207
>>1805206I have but I don't need fools to pay my way I work and pay for my lifestyle.i don't need to come on internet begging people to pay my rent .or fix my car .but she playing good actress for now been
victim.not cow anymore
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>>1805176>still coldShe hopped in the ocean in October. Cold doesn't seem to phase her. She's a bamf.
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No. 1805388
>>1805270The creative ways anon(s) try to phrase "normal girl going out and having a social life with their friends" as if it's a bad thing is astounding, just know you sound pathetic and jealous kek
Nothing she's doing is harmful or unusual
>b-but her asscheeks! Get over it chump
No. 1805391
>>1805341>screenshotting your internet upload speeds like it's interesting contentMost boring man alive, and I follow a bunch of programmers (who are incidentally very interesting and creative, unlike this tosser)
Has he shown his avatar yet? Surely that is of more interest to your followers than your upload speeds.
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>>1805396Maybe she should ask flat Skat on how to bend yourself to pretend to have curves.
No. 1805413
>>1805396Yeah, she's been tits and ass out long before the breakup, idk why that one
nonny is trying to blame Jake for Kaya going full slut. But her dancing in video was the opposite of sexy
No. 1805425
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>>1805395she clearly has cheeks whereas kat you can see an entire thong laying flat on her. These nitpicks are getting ridiculous. She's tall and a bit boxy, but c'mon.
>>1805263She was wearing a mid-thigh sweater/hoodie under her jacket. It was pretty obviously caught up under her jacket in the beach clip, but pulled back down in other clips. I don't think she actually had her cheeks out walking around, but
>>1805314 is definitely attention seeking behavior.
>>1805396Tbh, she looked to be around her heaviest in that music video. She looked absolutely miserable the whole time from what I can remember of it.
No. 1805433
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I'm sorry if this gets the "patreon money" anon sperging out again, kek, but her Youtube isn't pulling much lower numbers than Jake's despite the less consistent uploads. He's lost another couple thousand subs on his channel bringing him to 430k this month. Jake's current fanbase is a handful of deeply dedicated hardcore "snaccs" as seen in his discord channel or in his streams. His vtube attempt and selling the motorcycle for the next video seems like his career is in it's early death throes and he's trying to make that "switch in content" he promised forever ago in order to try to turn things back around. It's definitely not a great sign for him that he's openly resorting to selling off his toys already and makes the tinfoiling about him wanting the laptop and camera back to sell it more plausible too.
>>1805391He hasn't. In the video
>>1805139 is from, he mentions it's finished already, but didn't go into any detail about it. Said he has a world made that no one is going to be invited to (kek) and that the persona is "the solo artist Munro", which I guess is him, but isn't him? I don't entirely get it tbh. He's going to be debuting it "soon" but I don't think he gave any real date or time.
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Out again guess patreon payment are in this month.
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No. 1805681
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>>1805641Does he only work out his shoulders and biceps? I'm genuinely confused by his proportions rn.
No. 1805695
>>1805681LMAO!! spot on, nonna. I love how baphomet looks like it's rolling its eyes!
I am always shocked by how stumpy and short he looks without a top on. he has to be even shorter than he says… I'm a short woman but my arms aren't that stubby. maybe because he's built them up too much?
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>>1805695It's like how he only tattooed his arms and neck at first. Now he only works those areas out I guess? It makes absolutely zero sense that his pecs are so small and sad in comparison to how gargantuan his traps and biceps are. Does he think it makes his waist look smaller? He looks uncomfortable, like he can't put his arms down, and his neck looks even more nonexistent these days. I can't comprehend it.
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No. 1805797
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Out till 4am, and the bed they're sharing doesn't belong to any one them, from the audio in her stories. The friend's names are Fifi and Lisa, although nonnies can correct me on the spelling of Fifi if I've assumed that wrong.
No. 1805805
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>>1805314For the nonnies who don't see her stories, Lisa is the one who looks like a drug addict and Fifi is the truck stop hooker. A cosmetologist and a chef, respectively.
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No. 1805981
>>1805797>>1805805Are you new? It's the same two she always hangs out with. Ari went with her to London too recently.
>>1805816I guess they went to go see Kristian Nairn DJ?
>>1805919Ngl it's funny that there's anons upset that Kaya is accepting $1-$10 monthly donations via her patreon from her hundreds of followers, but somehow Jake accepting entire paychecks from his broke southern USA snaccs like Lady Allura isn't questionable in the least? His handful of hardcore snaccs seem to be the only thing paying his bills right now. It's no wonder he's leaning so heavily into sub-only streaming.
No. 1805993
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>>1805990She seems pretty young too and still lives at home, but is completely obsessive over Jake. It's interesting because he follows these two, but not her?
No. 1806001
>>1805981I wouldn't objectively compare their e-begging, Kaya doesn't come out on top and her WK's will get butthurt. The difference being Jake doesn't ask for superchats and Kaya begs for Patrons,
nonny, so don't be deliberately dim. Not to mention Kaya gets superchats too and, unlike Jake, doesn't let anything under $10 be read out loud automatically. The only time he promotes his channel paywall is reactively, so whenever people become a member so they can watch his stupid playlist. Kaya plugs her Patreon at the end of every sob story, so i guess you could say she has a similar reactive habit. They both hide their streams behind paywalls, but Kaya's is laughably easy to break.
No. 1806011
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>>1805993JESUS Amy jump scares me every time. IT looking old ass hag. He also follows Aiden, another mod. So Lady Allura is the only mod he isn't following kek. Anyone know much about Aiden? Apparently they've been around since MAG and are convinced that "Kaya is the
abusive one." No pictures of themselves or anything they do anywhere so I'm assuming they're boring and ugly as sin.
No. 1806213
>>1805756>>1805786>why is there a urinal.They were at a gay bar with unisex bathrooms.
>>1805797>the bed they're sharing doesn't belong to any one themYou know this how exactly? Do you really think all three of them went home with someone from the gay bar? kek
>>1806104It's been getting kind of out of hand lately. The particularly tinfoily clueless one rehashing her friends names must be completely new since they've been around for over a year now. The salty one is a thread staple unfortunately, and the clearly illiterate one is new too. Makes me wonder if Jake has been namedropping the farms again in his streams or something.
No. 1806218
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>>1806211She's not trans, that was some other snacc that eventually turned on him and posted in thread a while back. Lady Allura abuses filters, but seems fairly young (especially in comparison to his other hardcore snaccs like these two
>>1805993 ), but also appears to live at home still which allows her to spend all her money on Jake throughout the month. She seems pretty obsessive so I wonder if maybe she's overstepped a line at some point? The "thirst trap" channel in his discord is mostly just her posting his ugly selfies.
No. 1806283
>>1806213How do you know it was a gay bar? Also, that
nonny said the info came from story audio, read again.
>>1805805Also this anon was right to clarify, i haven't read these two mentioned here very much by name despite how often she goes out with them. It helps keep things straight if they lose the "friends" generalization. Not to mention the potential future cow material these two might be.
No. 1806293
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No. 1806308
File: 1681132835365.png (151.69 KB, 864x1527, forever procrastinating.png)
Any bets she doesn't do any of this? Also, how messy is her house if it's prioritized above working out, which doesn't even make sense anyway.
No. 1806309
>>1806283>How do you know it was a gay bar?It's the libertine bar, Kaya posted the name with this photo
>>1805816Also the friends have been brought up a bunch before and haven't proven to be milky in the years time they have been present already, but okay. I guess if we're spelling things out for all the newfags pouring in. kek
No. 1806313
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>>1805820Found it, kek. You're not wrong
No. 1806323
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>>1806313Oh god, Lisa's smile reminds of this clown, kek
No. 1806362
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I found this in her Twitter likes, and it's exactly how Kaya approaches content, kek.
No. 1806363
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The video about his sexual harassment was taken down because he threatened to sue.
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No. 1806378
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Publicly naming his victim of sexual harassment: Nicole from Eyes of Nocturne.
No. 1806381
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Whatever he said to this woman was bad enough to bother her for more than a year straight. And he was able to convince her that his sexual harassment was a case of "cultural misunderstandings". That is extremely sketchy. Abusers will go through any length to silence their victims.
No. 1806385
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Jazmin claims she isn't an industry plant and got her start from friends willing to work for free, and interscope records just magically contacted her. How likely is this?
No. 1806386
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Also, tragic.
No. 1806418
>>1805341Jake is an actual fucking idiot kek
He went out and got fast DOWNLOAD speed, but streaming involves UPLOAD speed which looks to be pretty bad for what appears to be an expensive fiber plan (he fell for a common trick these companies do which is sell a package based on the download speeds but they'll shaft the upload slowing the whole internet experience). If you're getting fiber (or any internet) you're so much better off going for upload/download balance over getting swayed just by speed. Most people don't need gig internet, their internet is just crap because their upload speed is capped at 10-20 which hinders internet usage. Jake at 100mb might be fine while streaming, but he probably didn't get many benefits if at all from this upgrade unless the idiot Youtuber actually went for slower upload before now
No. 1806457
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Leaf boy rocking the double PX insignia. These two seem to be going for the Most Christian Goth title. I know Kat has always flirted with religious iconography, but has he? Never followed him so have no idea if this is part of his new alt right persona or was always there.
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No. 1806479
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Apparently Herbs went to a festival, Resistanz or something like that. This is from her IG. I find quite ironic that, as someone who claims to be non-binary and prefers he/they pronouns, she posts this picture which you can bet a hundred pounds it was taken at the women's restroom. Intimidatory bullshit like this is only aimed at women, and, despite the fact that she prefers to support actual males occupying female spaces, at the end of the day she is yet another Aiden-woman that still chooses the safest restroom for herself, not the one intended for the gender she claims to be. Maybe I'm assuming too much but I just can't stand fully grown up women doing this shit anymore.
No. 1806493
>>1806457he's walking around in his own merch, that is the logo for his band Prayers.
It's his version of the Chi Rho cross. I was trying to find more meaning behind it, but got distracted by what he said in some old 2015 interview…
https://www.vice.com/en/article/6azgd4/meet-prayers-the-san-diego-cholo-goth-duo-who-want-to-break-down-every-barrier-in-sightQUOTE:
"Seyer’s previous two trips to NYC resulted in an arrest and a court appearance—evidence disappeared, charges dismissed—but the city was good to him this time. “We fucking destroyed it,” he says. “It was like 9/11 all over again. We were tearing buildings down with our music, our presence.”
and other such lines as -
"I would ask people for fucking beats and they would laugh at me and say, “Oh, I can’t put my name on that.” Now they wanna be my fuckin’ roadies. They wanna suck my dick. But it’s too late. You gotta pay me to suck my dick now. You can’t suck my dick for free. My dick is like a magic wand that could give you power! My staff gives live. And now I’m gonna be like just spilling my seed on the unworthy, on those who didn’t believe in me?"
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No. 1806512
>>1806448I can see 100 being the best he could get, but I'm going to assume he could get 100mb upload (or similar) from a cbeaper/simpler plan if that's what his mega plan is capping off at since it's all in on advertising that download speed instead of going for a good balance. Also it's pretty clear he thinks the 900mb download is what's gonna be killer for him to bother waiting on streaming for. Honestly unless he's constantly torrenting shit I don't know why he of all people needs that download speed. He doesn't actually seem to do anything that would require it at all. Does he even play games that take up over 20gigs on his computer? Unless it's for
porn but most scrotes don't download it nowadays unless they're into something fucked
No. 1806575
>>1806572The promoter who made the post made it obvious who it was, so that takes five seconds of half decent detective work,
nonny. All he had to do was message the band, it's not exactly a huge leap of logic.
No. 1806578
>>1806575How so? They didn't name any names, or insinuate whether the
victim was even a fan or band member. The only person it could have been obvious would be Jake. Stop downplaying the situation.
No. 1806613
>>1806592All I did was ask for clarification kek, chill. The post still doesn't insinuate who the
victim was at all, only that the band blew the whistle.
>There are two scrotes in this story, nonnies. Maybe they both suck.ALL scrotes suck, newfag.
>>1806593Thanks! The wording in this is very important and proves that Jake must have known exactly who the post was talking about. He probably tried to get with Nicole and ended up creeping her out because he doesn't know how to flirt without objectifying.
No. 1806666
>>1806653Ikr he made this woman feel harassed and was basically like "didn't mean to" and thinks that's some sort of excuse.
>misunderstood in a cultural context Wtf does that even mean? They aren't from different cultures KEK.
No. 1806682
>>1804896>>1804909>>1804927>>1805314>>1805341>>1805462>>1805464>>1805756>>1805816>>1805919>>1806313>>1806466>>1806503I think you are right,
>>1806577 . This all looks like the same anon trying to bury any mention of Jake with lazy mobile screenshots.
>>1806378>>1806653>>1806666This isn't even the first time he's had women saying he acted like a creep or made weird comments towards them. Judging by his "I made a vagina out of playdough at a child's bday party" tier of "humor" it's unsurprising he makes attractive women uncomfortable. I wonder if that's how his and Kat's relationship begun, with him making a creepy comment and her taking it as flattery instead? Seems like he had been trying to cheat all along, but most didn't want his stumpy self, just Jude and Kat.
No. 1806689
>>1806682Those all seem to be from the same phone too (file names all formatted the same, same screen dimensions). What gets to me is their replies like this
>>1806559 - how the fuck were we supposed to know that? Not all of us use IG or even have it to begin with; add context, post actual milk, or don't post it at all. I thought that was common sense but apparently saying that makes me a Kaya whiteknight. Kek the absolute state of this thread..
No. 1806700
>>1806689They've brought up old "milk" if you could even call it that like her two belfast friends and how one is missing a tooth like it wasn't discussed and brought up by "belfast trash" anon a bunch like a year ago. Tbh, screenshot anon definitely seems like a snacc if that superchat screencap tells us anything. Makes sense they would be trying to derail any Jake discussion.
>>1806503>>1806559Also having seen the clip that this screencap is from, I'd hardly call it a striptease. She's wearing baggy sweatpants over her clubbing outfit and she jokingly takes the pants off? I'm not opposed to discussing Kaya either, especially if she does anything actually milky.
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>>1806713>>1806702Him rushing to delete a bunch of videos around the drama definitely isn't something an innocent person does. It's a shame that there's no backup anywhere, but I remember the vibrator thing too. It caught me off guard with how out of place the comment was. This is an old tweet, but relevant in regards to how he acts around Kelly.
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>>1806743Also found this in the first Jake & co thread. The video was still available just four months ago, but was conveniently deleted after being mentioned.
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>>1806751And yet he kept these other videos with her up from around the same time. Funny how he only deleted the one that people were using as evidence of his creepy behavior, nothing to hide at all, clearly.
No. 1806794
>>1805139late reply but wanted to add that he is going to be replacing his irl youtube content with vr videos, and claimed he doesn’t feel the need to vlog all the stuff he does. hilarious that he said he will keep a regular upload schedule but won’t even start until next month.
anyway, kat is going to be doing more tattoo work on his leg, he’s getting the other side of his face done & is traveling to get others. cannot wait to see how bad it all is.
No. 1806799
>>1806794So wait, let me get this right. He's planning to phase out his actual face and just do a weird vtuber version of himself to make the same old content he's been making? I can't imagine there's actually a market for this. Is slathering himself with clown paint a couple times a month to film for a couple hours really too much for the dude?
Tattooing the other side of his face is also a fascinating choice given how poorly received his head wound seems to have been.
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>>1806855He starts with a more "basic" one and then goes ham on the second look. He does not do this all the time, but often enough. Moving an X on completely white base does not require you to do your face again especially with the filters he uses
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Kek, who bet that Kaya wouldn't do anything she promised before the weekend started/when she was in London? Someone fire her from the internet. She's been on vacation since mid-March, and had a fun filled weekend since then. Now she's giving up editing a video seven hours before she would schedule it to be released, what a fucking failure.
No. 1806892
>>1806879This tinfoil is ridiculous but keep going
nonny, maybe one day you'll find actual proof
No. 1806959
>>1806799ayt - that seemed to be what he was saying, being particularly cocky about having his own world that no one else has access to. how much do you have to hate your life to pay ppl to make one for you lol.
also, after claiming that his video for that dull ‘the tide’ song would be “phenomenal”, he admitted that he doesn’t like it and once again says he’ll do better next time.
No. 1807073
>>1806762The fact he looks so much younger in these thumbnails holy shit
The booze (and drugs, possibly) have hit him hard. I remember how tasteless these titles seemed too considering he was with his long term partner, imagine your LTR posting videos called I'VE MADE A DECISION and IT'S ALL OVER, seems even worse now we know he has a history of being a lech
No. 1807091
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Someone please take Amy‘s internet access away, this is super weird
No. 1807146
Kaya admitted to walking around Barcelona sick with covid. Claimed she wasn't positive when she went to London, got tattooed maskless, and shared drinks with people at Slimelight, but even if that's true, which i doubt, Barcelona was bad enough. She went into restaurants and bars, so even though she tries to downplay it she has still exposed people.
And she spent the first part of the stream basically responding to her lolcow criticism, kek. She actually tried to say being in London is cheaper than being in Belfast, kek.
https://www.youtube.com/live/2Urmg_loaXM?feature=share No. 1807185
>>1807146Did she admit to having covid on stream or where are you getting this from?
(Still irresponsible as fuck to spread your germs even if it wasn’t covid, but I’d like to know if it was confirmed)
No. 1807476
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The only person FORCING these "challenges" on yourself is you, dumbass. He sets the challenge and has full control over it.
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>>1807476I saw that too. Sitting on this for a while,
nonny? Slacking, kek. Here's the current thread on that comment. I was interested when i heard "forced" so i went and watched the video that "forced" him to do it. He was definitely asking for an excuse to make the songs, since that was the second video where that challenge was used. And he reacted to something retarded that he is historically guaranteed to laugh at. With context, it sounds more like he is forcing himself to make time for it now that it is assigned via lost challenge, not that he doesn't want to do it. Not really milky, so i didn't share originally.
No. 1807534
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She just started doing actual work and complaining immediately. Nobody is forcing her to do YouTube ffs
No. 1807576
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Get a job
No. 1807600
>>1807399>>1807422There are people that still care about covid? No one cares anymore, not even governments of countries since drug administrations are like “we fucked up with covid big time”.
Please do complain about it online, at least we will see the cowtipper
No. 1807854
>>1807748>>1807750It's pretty obvious there's at least a couple of them in here samefagging endlessly and talking back and forth amongst themselves. It's funny they just casually ignored
>>1807394 and kept at it. At least the farmhand banned one of them temporarily. Jake most have namedropped lolcow again.
>>1807576This is also the same anon as seen in
>>1806682 No. 1807891
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>>1806762Jake went on a deleting spree after this was posted. Guilty as fuck and the snaccs itt are just trying to distract from it.
No. 1807943
>>1807864I'm probably the only one, but I think it's quite a matter of antisocial behavior to go out while having covid. Even though governments don't see Covid as a threat no more. But I'm sick for 2 years now with post-Covid syndrom, which unfortunatly is still a thing and people are still getting it and it fucks up your life big time.
Sage for covid sperg.
No. 1808002
>>1807998Post something about it if you want to talk about it, but nonnies are right to call out her irresponsibility with the virus too, especially since a bunch of virus sharing retards splurged and made it sound ok to walk around in public for fun, knowingly sick. It's the altcows thread, if you've got milk, share it. Right now, all this supposed Jake burying is being complained about by nonnies who haven't said anything furthering the topic they are complaining about.
It's obviously deleted videos, but because it's deleted videos, it's hard to say exactly what he deleted to splurge about unless you've got proof of what it looked like before. Seeing as that is apparently nobody, yeah, kinda hard to talk about it.
No. 1808431
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>>1808425Unsurprised that some of the videos he deleted were vlogs featuring Kelly. I wonder if he cleared out the old Kaya ones to look less suspicious or just a "might as well" while he was at it. kek at the anon acting like it's not milky that he went on a huge deleting spree the very same day videos were mentioned here as evidence though.
>>1808428I found this old screencap an anon shared in a previous thread. One of the videos he deleted was his third most viewed video, featuring Kaya. The now missing vlogs had much less views so not as noticeable. He seemed to have deleted a bunch though in order be down over two and a half million views.
No. 1808433
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>>1808428>him making the ugliest faces with an obnoxious yellow borderThis reminded me, but have any of you noticed the weird trend with his most recent (top row) photos lately? He seems to have shifted from his usual handsome squidward face to whatever that creepy sanpaku eyed expression is in the top row.
No. 1808831
>>1808830KEK
nonny it does
No. 1808901
>>1808896She smokes cigarettes? Or weed? The more I hear about her the more I realise her and jake are the same with smoking and drinking habits and I was going to say they are both lazy but jake puts more ‘effort’ into his content even if it the same video every week least he uploads
>>1808734Wouldn’t put it past her to have tried it now she’s in her party era
>>1808433He needs eyebrows
No. 1812965
>>1812801Yeah I watched and I had to roll my eyes. I understand not being in ideal living situations but with a drifter like her, she should just be happy that she was able to find a home within her family's price range and not having to worry about being homeless in a shelter.
I will say that I was surprised to hear all this though because I forgot that she was living on a VISA passport when staying in Scotland. I read her journal explaining the situation and it does seem like she really did have bad luck there when they didn't alert her that she would need a specific Visa when crossing the USA. So I do feel for her that, I couldn't imagine how scary that must've been.
With all that in mind, I really think she needs to stop with trying to move to the UK, it's clear that they're not financially stable to do that, especially with cost of living and travel on the increase.
Here's the website entry for anyone curious
http://www.itsblackfriday.com/2022/11/you-saved-us.html#comment-form No. 1813052
>>1788215Lol
I hope she gets sued
No. 1813728
>>1812801>Also, Mister Owl works as a cleaner?!?! I thought he had a masters degree?What degree was it, that's bleak especially with two young kids
>>1812840Sounds like her belongings are in Wellington NZ, where she used to live before any of the country hopping, but she's now on the opposite side of the country. She did used to have stuff left in her Scotland flat, and it got burgled during covid, but I'm guessing she's moved that all to Wellington too now?
No. 1815260
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Idk if it's considered necro to post in the jude thread or not now so I'm posting this here. She just styles herself worse and worse, but what else can you do when your only pastimes are OF and gaming with no job or aspirations. She'd be perfect for jake.
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Funny jude just got mentioned, cause… I've been seeing this chick on my feed who looks quite like her…(newfag)
No. 1815342
>>1813728In my country, cleaners are paid a lot and have a super strong union. It's a job nobody wants to do, so it's well compensated. I would guess that it's similar in NZ, since they're a pretty progressive country.
>>1815260She's so ugly, yet she looks like the cat that ate the canary. The smug expression is unreal.
>>1815289Wow, she even has the gross slug tongue mastered. Impressive skinwalk.
No. 1815471
>>1812801girl never heard the saying "beggars can't be choosers"
also her hands look very splotchy when she waves the around in the vid. looks almost like liver spots. is she genuinely old enough to get those? damn, time is flying.
No. 1815676
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Surgery? As in plastic surgery? To “achieve the skin I feel comfortable in”? Reeree is so objectively attractive so I can’t believe she’s that insecure about herself to resort to going under the knife. Body dysmorphia really is a bitch.
No. 1816050
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She’s not getting a tummy tuck. She posted bikini photos many times and as you can see, there is no loose skin whatsoever. She has mentioned wanting to get a breast reduction/ implants though.
No. 1816208
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Permanently looking like she's smelled a fart.
No. 1818280
>>1817827Yeah they are quite unhinged. I’ve been following her private account and she spills quite a lot in her stories and live hangouts. Most of it revolves around family drama; her parents have serious health issues (one of them has terminal cancer) and so one of her many siblings lives with her. She is 19 years old and Reeree often posts stories about her not going to school & not working. On top of that she doesn’t clean up after herself, leaves huge messes and is very conflict prone. Meanwhile Reeree is pulling 12h shifts as a nurse and then has to come home to a mess.
Other than that she has said that she wants to get impregnated by her new boyfriend soon and wants it to be a son this time.
No. 1818346
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>>1816208The unsuitable fringe, the botched fillers, the clown makeup, the random fashion choices that pretend to resemble an alt style… Does she purposely want to look like shit? I almost feel sorry because she clearly seems to have low self-esteem. She could have worked with her natural features in an actually original way, not against them. She looks so cheap.
No. 1819160
>>1812801God, everything about this video is so… Trashy? Retired?
I still don't understand the entire timeline of her moving from Europe to NZ and back and forth for like 6 years but the place is pure agony to look at.
The fact she has to paint everything black and include skulls and other random GOTH objects as decor is horrendous. Haunted house vibes. She could do so much better. It's definitely a far cry from her place in Germany during her heyday + she got burgled + some of her stuff is still in storage + she has two kids + they are FLAT. FUCKING. BROKE! Freyja is virtually unemployed and her boyfriend is a cleaner. Who told them that having two kids amidst this chaos was a good idea? God, I feel terrible watching this. It's so fucking bleak.
No. 1819191
>>1818559Agreed. Honestly I never understood the desire to have everything painted black in your home. Black walls, black furniture, etc. I like black as much as the next person but I don't think I could live in a house that was black everything, some color is nice every once in awhile.
I feel like she only wants to paint everything black to have her uber GOFF street cred (or whatever).
No. 1819197
>>1819160A lot of us were hoping that she was in a stable situation to have kids. I mean we've all hear stories of how some parents may not have been in the best financial situation when having kids and how in the end it did work out despite the obstacles. Hopefully it will be the same for Freya's children but on the outside looking in at this time, they really weren't prepared. One kids? Sure. But two? That's just excessive considering their unstable living situation.
Does Freya make money doing her livestreams? Because if not, yeah it really does look bleak that she really is unemployed and in this day and age when raising a family, unless you are well off, you can't support a full family unit on one working income unless you're living super frugally and knowing Freya and her taste, I don't feel that will be the case.
No. 1819215
>>1818559Agreed. Honestly I never understood the desire to have everything painted black in your home. Black walls, black furniture, etc. I like black as much as the next person but I don't think I could live in a house that was black everything, some color is nice every once in awhile.
I feel like she only wants to paint everything black to have her uber GOFF street cred (or whatever).
No. 1819586
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>>1819215she's just unimaginative and defaulting to painting generic throwaway furniture black to be "goth" and slapping a few bats on the white walls while she's at it. The carpeting is pretty ugly, but it would be a fun challenge to try to style around it with using some of the oranges and browns or greens to put a little whimsy and color into her decor. Also, she could just get area rugs to toss over some areas to tone it down a bit or to liven up the brown carpeting?
No. 1819734
>>1819586AYRT and OMG that is a gorgeous room! It has a dark but lively feel to it and I would sooner decorate my space like that over an all black with bats n the white walls aesthetic that Freya does.
I agree that she could totally try something more experimental for the home she is in right nw, decorate around the carpet and all that like you suggested.
The other thing too on why I wouldn't want a pitch black room is because imagine what that looks like at night? lol I don't think I could handle intense blackness like that kek.
No. 1820456
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>>1819734The only practical reason for doing "everything black" is "I suck at matching things and colors". The whole all black furniture and everything trend came like from early to mid 00s and back then it was mostly a meme.
>>1819197
>I feel like she only wants to paint everything black to have her uber GOFF street cred (or whatever).There are various interviews with ubergoffs dating back to the 90s and early 00s. No one of them had all furniture painted black back then. Dark wood, wrought iron (the most likely items that were actually black elements), even a truckload of brass (what was the last time you have seen modern goff anywhere near brass items?) was norm. You can see also quite a lot of 80s rooms photos with barely any black stuff other than clothing and posters.
tl;dr; "all blek goff" was a meme that became reality. The more back we look the more color we see.
No. 1822274
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>>1745990Small update on this cow that I almost forgot to post. She's turning 40 and having a meltdown that her family isn't throwing her a special birthday party. Mind you she still lives at home with her mom.
No. 1822284
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bump don't scroll cp
No. 1823933
>>1823724>>not-so-subtly fishing for compliments ('I'm not beautiful enough to be featured in their magazine…')So obnoxious lol Like girl not even you can say that with a straight face and as annoying as she can be, there's no doubt that she would make for a good model for the magazine. I've gotta admit that I love her makeup here, I can't lie kek.
I tried watching the video but only got about 3 minutes in and clicked off, it just had this boring energy to it but at least it was something?
No. 1824002
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Looks like Reeree’s ex threatened to leak her nudes so she made an onlyfans.
No. 1824003
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No. 1824097
>>1824002Strangely, her ex (alterd_mind) still follows her on Instagram. Why is she allowing that if she's so traumatised and afraid of him (she said she used to be in a relationship that made her fear for her life in a story only a few days ago) ? It doesn't make sense. Sometimes it feels like she's talking about someone else because her giving her "abuser" access to her every update is a really unusual way to react for a
victim…
No. 1825060
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>>1824526But she sure is drumming up some sympathy so someone pays her way.
No. 1825074
>>1825060girl. you should be raising money for your kids, not travelling to a different country for a goth fest.
but she always had fucked-up priorities.
No. 1825655
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>>1825060She has a couple bids on two of the paintings, but it's not nearly enough to cover the very pricy plane ticket out to Germany and back. Absolutely absurd she's hoping to fly halfway across the globe to WGT when her living situation is already so unstable and she has two very young children.
No. 1826269
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Did anyone else catch Victoria "accidentally" posting a nude to her Instagram the other day? It was followed by a bunch of thirst posts and censored nudes kek. Regardless here's her sympathising with a troon murderer because child murderers should be exalted and studied in her mind. It almost reads like her validating the killing spree because it was a Christian school. You'd think she would've changed after all these years.
No. 1827368
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Why do niggers make up 13% of the population but commit 60% of homicides?
Why does the endless mud flood of Mexicans displace the white population but you can’t comment on it?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1828857
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Kat Von D recently started following Christian and right wing pages on IG and Roseanne Barr?!?!?!?
No. 1830081
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??? Did anyone actually leave negative comments or is she just fishing for compliments?
No. 1830247
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Samefag but Frodo has apparently sold all her ugly paintings and is now auctioning another item. Check the hashtags lol, I can't believe she has the guts to sell this crap at that price and then attempt to look humble. It's been said already but this mother of two needs to set her family's priorities straight. If I were the relative that lent her the house I would seriously consider kicking her out. I bet that if she doesn't raise enough money to travel she will spend it on black paint/furniture/tacky decor.
No. 1831217
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>>1830242 >>1829661
>>1829479Here's her winded explanation. Basically she didn't like how it came out and there were errors.
No. 1831324
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Since when is Reeree so genuinely fucking retarded?
>How dare you leave comments regarding my body when it's the majority of what I post and talk about! My DAUGHTER is on here!
>Literally sexualizes herself and advertises her OnlyFans account.
Bitch, why are you exposing your daughter to your body issues and porn to begin with and then blaming other people for the way it might affect her? I'm sure that you saying shit about how you "won't be comfortable in your own skin" without your copious cosmetic surgery is great for her self esteem!
No. 1831660
>>1831324>won't you think of the childrenWomm't you?, Instead of teaching your daughter that the Internet is like this and how best to navigate that, let's teach her to cry at every less than positive comment kek
>I'm happyThen why do you, apparently, want cosmetic surgeries
No. 1831860
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>>1831324"My daughter is on here"
No. 1831929
>>1830242Has she admitted to having work done?
It has been awhile since I've watched her videos and I don't follow her socials. Not sure if it's filters or fillers or what but she's looking a little, uh, different these days
For as much as she wants to be the internet's eldergoth queen, one would think she would try to be a positive example for people in her age group that the don't have to look forever 21 to be goth.
(emoji) No. 1832076
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She even posted a picture with her daughter for pity points. It amazes me how shameless some people act. Imagine e- begging to go to a festival when you can barely provide for your kids.
No. 1832088
>>1832076This really pissed me off this morning. I’m assuming if she needs ‘care for her babies’ then that means Mr Owl is going as well, who is she leaving her two very small children with? Family? Babysitters? Surely if money is as tight as she’s constantly making out then the money she’s made off her paintings would be better spent at home not on fucking off to the other side of the world to go to a festival.
I really hate to be one of those ‘won’t someone think of the children’ people but for fucks sake Freyja!
No. 1832150
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>>1831929I don't think she has, she doesn't even show her bare face so I doubt she would acknowledge such thing either. She's been really going hard with smooth/whitening filters lately so maybe it's just that what's really making her look odd. My tinfoil tho is that she had some minor work done, fillers basically. Maybe I'm biased because she's italian but she's starting to give me some botched Madonna-alien vibes.
>For as much as she wants to be the internet's eldergoth queen, one would think she would try to be a positive example for people in her age group that the don't have to look forever 21 to be goth.Couldn't agree more with that.
>>1832075We were talking about Angela not Reeree, anon!
No. 1832209
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>>1832076She has backtracked. It's just a joke folks! There are some not so happy critical fans calling her out, as well as a swarm of sympathizers lashing back in the IG comments on the now edited* post. Her latest post after that is some soap for world goth day, which might also be a little cover up to get the heat off her. She's a mess.
>>1831929I walked into one of her live streams over a year ago and she was going on for a while about wanting a breast reduction. It was odd. So the anon who says she has falsies, idk.
No. 1832230
>>1832088>I really hate to be one of those ‘won’t someone think of the children’ people but for fucks sake Freyja!No anon, your annoyance and concern are totally
valid here and I feel the same way. Looking at that post pissed me off as well. Freya really is a piece of work. She's now learning the reality of what being a parent is like and realistically YOUR wants do not override that of what's best for your child, let alone two children that she now has.
I'm not saying that people with children can't have nice things or go out and do things but you have to plan for them and make sure that you have the budget for them which Freya and her husband are (clearly) not in this position at all. If they're worrying about making ends meet since they're only operating on one stable source of income which is her husband holding an actual job while she's living off of donations (in other words handouts) then yeah, you're not in a financially stable position.
Just watch, let's say that she does end up going to the festival; how much you wanna bet that when it's over and she returns home she's gonna be whining about how she doesn't have enough money to afford an actual thing that her or her children actually need?
I'm sorry, I try ot to judge but she's really being ridiculous here. Freya, you've got two children now and are in a shaky financial situation, you chose this life and it's no longer about you anymore. Do what's best for your children and your own current situation and if it means you'll have to miss out on parties and events because you don't have the budget for it, oh well you'll just just have to miss them for the time being.
No. 1832231
>>1832088>I really hate to be one of those ‘won’t someone think of the children’ people but for fucks sake Freyja!No anon, your annoyance and concern are totally
valid here and I feel the same way. Looking at that post pissed me off as well. Freya really is a piece of work. She's now learning the reality of what being a parent is like and realistically YOUR wants do not override that of what's best for your child, let alone two children that she now has.
I'm not saying that people with children can't have nice things or go out and do things but you have to plan for them and make sure that you have the budget for them which Freya and her husband are (clearly) not in this position at all. If they're worrying about making ends meet since they're only operating on one stable source of income which is her husband holding an actual job while she's living off of donations (in other words handouts) then yeah, you're not in a financially stable position.
Just watch, let's say that she does end up going to the festival; how much you wanna bet that when it's over and she returns home she's gonna be whining about how she doesn't have enough money to afford an actual thing that her or her children actually need?
I'm sorry, I try ot to judge but she's really being ridiculous here. Freya, you've got two children now and are in a shaky financial situation, you chose this life and it's no longer about you anymore. Do what's best for your children and your own current situation and if it means you'll have to miss out on parties and events because you don't have the budget for it, oh well you'll just just have to miss them for the time being.
No. 1832237
>>1832088>I really hate to be one of those ‘won’t someone think of the children’ people but for fucks sake Freyja!No anon, your annoyance and concern are totally
valid here and I feel the same way. Looking at that post pissed me off as well. Freya really is a piece of work. She's now learning the reality of what being a parent is like and realistically YOUR wants do not override that of what's best for your child, let alone two children that she now has.
I'm not saying that people with children can't have nice things or go out and do things but you have to plan for them and make sure that you have the budget for them which Freya and her husband are (clearly) not in this position at all. If they're worrying about making ends meet since they're only operating on one stable source of income which is her husband holding an actual job while she's living off of donations (in other words handouts) then yeah, you're not in a financially stable position.
Just watch, let's say that she does end up going to the festival; how much you wanna bet that when it's over and she returns home she's gonna be whining about how she doesn't have enough money to afford an actual thing that her or her children actually need?
I'm sorry, I try ot to judge but she's really being ridiculous here. Freya, you've got two children now and are in a shaky financial situation, you chose this life and it's no longer about you anymore. Do what's best for your children and your own current situation and if it means you'll have to miss out on parties and events because you don't have the budget for it, oh well you'll just just have to miss them for the time being.
No. 1832243
>>1832076Is she freaking serious? She's using her child as a sympathy prop? Wow, I have no words except she really is shameless isn't she?
She's acting like not attending WGT is gonna kill her, newsflash Freya, you'll survive, it's not the end all be all kek
See this is what I was afraid might happen whens she confirmed her first pregnancy. I wanted to hope that motherhood would mature her but a part of me felt like she wouldn't change and would use her kid as some sort of prop to get more money out of her devoted fanbase. It's still early and who knows? Maybe she will change and finally be parent but it's shit like this that doesn't give a good impression.
No. 1832244
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Karen to the rescue. Seems like people aren’t letting IBF slide this time with her ebegging attempt.
No. 1832247
>>1832209>It was just a jokeOh fuck off Freya, not even you believe that. She's been complaining about it since the month began and was obviously trying to sell her paintings to raise money to go the trip and since they haven't been able to ear enough for the trip, she's ow resorting to pity e-begging.
>What is your problem and why the needless sarcastic commentYour daughter is being an irresponsible and she's not above criticism. She showed her ass and now she's dealing with the fallback.
No. 1832317
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Someone had very good weekend in London….other love bite
No. 1832360
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>>1832317Kaya has been getting it, lol. Tbh imo she has more sex appeal than both Kat and Jake combined these days. If she started an OF and just posted sexy boudoir type shots I bet it would leave Kat & Jake's pathetic attempt at OF in the dust.
No. 1832462
>>1832418Agreed. I don't like Kaya and though I am glad she got out of her
toxic relationship with Jake, she is still showing the lazy traits that made her ridiculous in the first place but she really doesn't do much of anything these days that can be seen as cowish. Until she start e-begging like Freya seems to be doing, there's not much to really say about Kaya.
No. 1832782
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Don't know if anyone keeps up with fashy Lauren now she's gone quiet, but Adam her ex is having a baby so guess they both moved on pretty quick.
No. 1833075
>>1832782I've missed these cows, they're so entertaining. So kvlt and trad to immediately get married/have a baby after leaving your so-called "soulmate".
>>1832794Could you please post the pics if you have them
nonnie? Was she doing her typical inbred bucktoothed expression?
No. 1833167
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>>1832150Speaking of Italian, looks like she's going the Madonna route.
No. 1833547
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>>1833546forgot to add the photo
No. 1833924
>>1833547>>1833549Thank you anon!
mwah Aside from her unfortunate molerat face, she actually looks pretty here. Does anyone know if she's still a raging white supremacist? I'm assuming so, since that kind of leopard rarely changes its spots.
No. 1834425
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>>1830247Did she really think she would get enough money to take her whole family to WGT? How delusional is she?
No. 1834564
https://www.instagram.com/die__herzogin/There's 2 underscores.
So they(he) were also with Kaya at the Shard having drinks.
No. 1834750
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>>1834564>>1834443She went to Slimelight with a bunch of gays she hasn't met before. That's why she didn't post many pics or stories while she was in London. Apart from drinks at The Shard it didn't look like she did much - a boring trip.
There's still no video of her implied collab with Roly 3 weeks on from when she visited him. I wonder if that'll ever get posted.
No. 1834905
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>>1834810That thread got rebooted and now it's only for milk on Jake and Kat - the drink spiking infighting was the final nail in the coffin. Most of us seemed to agree that Kaya doesn't need her own thread.
She's been so boring lately, the only thing that caught my interest was someone admitting they liked her on her stories and giving hints of their identity.
No. 1834948
>>1834920Ok but it's still blatantly just the one anon (you) who suddenly decided to separate Kaya from the thread.
People minimodded the jvlogger thread into a trashheap.
imo it's preferable anons just let things flow organically rather than letting singular anons decide what's best. There's absolutely no reason to separate Kaya from the milk, it wasn't long ago Jaketard made that shitty video about Kaya which forced her to make a 3 hour response video, it's not like this has all been over for years.
All that's happened as a result of the attempt to separate the cows is people continue posting about her in both threads regardless. Like one anon can't just decide "no milk" and magically a cow stops being a cow, people do this constantly in /w in an attempt to shut down discussion. I would say hide the thread but it seems you do want to keep reading about altcows/kaya/jake/kat and are just minimodding for no reason.
No. 1835008
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Is jude a cow anymore? Sometimes I remember her but the milk seems stale, she doesn't post content anymore except the odd ddlg shit or her latest ugly look picrel
No. 1835282
>>1834948>>1834917Aw look, the shit starter is back and pissed that they can't infiltrate Jake's thread with bait anymore so they're gonna shit up the alt thread now.
It's actually not just "blatantly one person" who wants to split the threads. There are a lot of us. Have you even checked the Jake thread? It's popping off with opinions. You gotta be delusional to think it's just some samefag running that whole thread.
Kaya has been mentioned in Jake's thread, but mentioning her name isn't off limits retard, she isn't fucking Voldemort KEK. If you're so desperate to seethe about her, you can post milk about her here. The idea was to separate the infighting, not protect her. Or you could attempt your own thread, nothing is stopping you. But go ahead and see how long a thread full of drink-spiking apologists lasts here, dare you.
Honestly, the new thread has been pretty nice without the scrotey shit starters. It has been for the best so far imo.
No. 1835670
>>1831324how fucking retarded is she? doesn't she realize she can just… you know,
delete the negative comments and move on? truly braindead behavior here.
>>1832075i couldn't place my finger on why ibf e-begging pissed me off so much, but i think this is exactly it. she wants money? she can go get an actual fucking job. she chose to have children, she has an obligation to care for these humans that she CHOSE to bring into this world. she's up there with kaya and fake for e-begging, imo.
>>1832076wow, this is actually disgusting. fuck off freyja, you'll survive if you don't get to go to your stupid festival one time. your priority should be caring your children, not using them as fucking props to e-beg for an overrated, expensive festival. she chose to have crotch goblins, she can't just up and travel halfway across the world on a whim anymore. she needs to plan and budget for these things, and take her children into account as well.
>>1832370remember anon, she spent most of her adult life thus far in a relationship with jake. she wasn't allowed to have friends or go out and party or do most of the fundamental (and slightly stupid) things you normally get to do in your 20s. she finally gets to do that now and just happens to be sharing it on the internet. i don't get the weird hateboner for kaya, but i say let her live her life and get it out of her system. she'll calm down eventually, she's just having fun for the time being.
>>1835580exactly, i miss harmony's old videos. i used to watch her back in like 2016? 2017? and i guess i didn't realize she deleted half of her channel. that sucks :(
No. 1835770
>>1832247This is the one time that the e-begging got to me. It is incredibly expensive to fly anywhere from NZ these days, they'd be looking at the best part of 10 grand for two adults, and the childcare thing is odd. I can't imagine they wouldn't take the kids so maybe she's thinking of hiring some childcare service in Germany for those nights out without them? It's fucking insane. The oldest has special health needs, I visualize all manner of terrible things happening and I'm not even a parent.
If anything they should save that money for some potential move away from NZ which seems to be what she wants ultimately. Then festivals would be affordable.
(Sage) No. 1835809
>>1835770I find it bizarre for her to ask now - this is an annual event, 26th-29th May this year, she literally had a year to save and plan for it so why ask a few days before? Everyone knows that flight and accomodation is cheaper and available in advance, no chance you would be able to do this event on a few days notice unless you lived nearby.
I understand her need to go to the event since it's a big one on the goth calender so…plan for it like everyone else who goes to it?
No. 1835816
>>1835770yes! This is such an unnecessary expensive trip, like Kardashian level rich short trip, I don't get why she thinks she is entitled to it?
Most people probably will never be able to go to WGT not once because they are broke as fuck, and she thinks she has some right to go every single year while being unemployed and living in a very remote place to travel to and from.
No. 1835821
>>1835815Right? Nobody suggested separating it until one anon right before the thread was full so there wasn't really time to discuss it.
And I like how they assume anons who wanted to keep related cows in their relevant threads must have a hateboner. I'm on Kayas side, it's just illogical to take a cow out of her thread when she's gonna be constantly posted in it regardless, since the only reason anyone is even looking at Jake is because of his ten year long public association with her.
No. 1835860
>>1835809I mean for the flight tickets, and the WGT Bracelets, definitely agree with you there.
For the accomodation however she could even have chanced it either through the WGT forum (there's always someone posting accomodation offers), or a buncha town folk put their bedroom or apartment on eBay Kleinanzeigen offer board this year for the pentecostal weekend.
There were so many events happening together with WGT this year (last year were two Rammstein concert, this year Depeche Mode, football and a classical music festival) that subletting definitely is an interesting investment if you trust strangers enough, it can be a win-win.
No. 1835965
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>>1835670>>1835596I first found her through a pretty face click years ago and I still miss her content - she had an easy-going personality and a self-awareness beyond her years. I appreciated that she treated Youtube like a full time job and made an effort to diversify her content in order to draw more people in, she was good at keeping up with the trends and staying relevant (lookbooks, react content, minimalist lifestyle etc). She was always evolving but in the last couple of years she was on an introspective journey dedicated to healing herself: by the end she had transformed into an introverted and principled young woman, much more at peace. I don't blame her for leaving Youtube to seek her joy - she had long hinted she was losing her passion for it and I'm sure therapy and lockdowns made her reassess a lot of shit. Whenever I see 'Wicca' at a bookstore I always think of her - it seems like she's living in Brighton these days and I hope she's flourishing there.
For the nostalgic nonnies earlier…she has a hidden playlist with lots more videos in the community tab, I think she only keeps the videos she's proud of on the main page. There's a lot of vintage content on there but I personally really loved the later stuff (I've watched her smartphone and sobriety videos multiple times).
No. 1836055
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I genuinely felt sorry for her until she posted this vapid shit after the other 100 stories about it. I am a fool
No. 1836085
New video from Freezer. Black Friday & Avelina de Moray jewelry collection. Boring. Brief recap:
>"I know this is another unboxing video, but this is a "special box""
>it's a ring, necklace and earrings in coffin shape with bat wings and a big stone
>stones are cubic zirconia and come in different colors, band is stainless steel or sterling silver
>"Avelina is super nitpicky with materials and stuff"
>the box contains more boxes, velvet pouches and a written note from Avelina
>you can hear Montrose in the background, Freezer apologizes for it
>you can PRE-ORDER this collection now, demand is super high, order now plz
>also, the Black Friday bags/wallets are back
>the jewelry looks like epic shit, looks shein level and not high quality at all, price point is insanity
>big ad at the end for Avelina de Moray
The jewelry looks like stuff you get on Shein or Temu for a buck each. I don't know the quality of Avelina's bags or the other shit but most of the stuff you find on her site look trashy and gimmicky. I'm no expert, but the jewelry seems overpriced. In my country you can get stainless steel rings with cubic zirconia for ~10 bucks. No clue if the quality makes it worth it though, so if you ever purchased anything from Avelina and can attest to the quality, let me know.
No. 1836340
>>1835965omg, thank you
nonnie! i miss her content a lot, i'm glad it wasn't all deleted. time to go get comfy and sit down and watch through straight up nostalgia lol
>>1836055still a fucking cow, through and through. imagine vagueposting about trying to off yourself a week ago… that's just gross. if you need help and support, go to therapy or talk to your friends. don't vaguepost about it in a 'pity me' kind of way to your online following. that's just icky
No. 1836465
>>1836421Suicide attempt with paracetamol??! KEKK.
Is she 15? Is she serious? If you’re gonna make a whole arse performance, at least make it somewhat believable / resembling real life.
No. 1836518
>>1836353When it came to the old "Goth" Youtubers, KazlovesBats was my most favorite. She actually listened to goth music and just had this positive energy about her. She tended to stay out of drama as well if I'm remembering correctly and she never shamelessly e-begged. She was pretty good and I was sad when she became less active and dropped YouTube entirely.
I know she's active on TikTok but I refuse to join that app because of how
toxic it can be and how it kills attention span.
No. 1836538
>>1836085I thought the new blackfriday video really weird. She kept repeating how “I can trust her” “she can be trusted”
Like wtf is that about? What are we missing?
(Sage) No. 1836779
>>1836538AYRT here, I agree, which is why I said if someone ever bought anything from her and can attest to the quality, please correct me. I've heard similar tales that the wallets and bags are bad quality and not worth the price. To be honest, they look the part. They look like run of the mill Killstar-level "Goff" bags with bat wings, ankh symbols and the like, it's just not a good look throughout for Freyja to associate herself with her like this but money's money and she desperately needs it.
It seems to me this is why she stressed "it's difficult to put your name into someone else's hands" or something like that in this video multiple times.
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I’m a little bit unsure if this really fit here in this thread but I can’t get over it. Some person brought a fetus skeleton to WGT to basically hash for attention. What’s your guy’s opinion on this? I’m sad it doesn’t even have a nane apparently.
No. 1837324
>>1836779> it's difficult to put your name into someone else's handsIt is. But you don’t have to, if you don’t want to, or your gut feeling’s telling you it’s sketch. There are plenty of ways to earn money, even within the "influencer" realm. Kek, you can make more paintings and sell them on e-bay. Evidently, there is a demand for that. Among other things.
Freyja is so annoying with constantly acting and self-pitying as if she’s this perpetual
victim of circumstance, when 99% of the time it’s down to purely her own choices and shitty decision-making.
No. 1837360
>>1836779I have purchased the blackfriday wallet when it first came out. It still looks perfect. I never heard of the quality being bad cuz the wallet is amazing.
Wonder what the trust things about? It can’t be about the quality
No. 1837979
>>1837915In her story she literally says she witnessed that one of the girls who was invited to the pre-party had been clearly drugged and had given Till blowjobs, and that Till was being violent and some of the girls were obviously terrified. And she
still went to the afterparty? Jfc.
She also says she has girlfriends in other cities who confirmed before all this happened to her that Till arranges orgies with tons of drugs and that several girls almost died during these events. And she still wanted to attend one of these orgies? Ew. Pickmes never thrive.
No. 1838008
>>1837979I don't think she's a pickme, it seems to me more like she naively thought it would be more of an organic party fun vibe and less trafficked prostitutes vibes, based on the stories she reposted it seems like girls go from shy to hooker in 30 mins due to consuming the spiked drinks he passes around. Like none of these girls truly consented to sex if they don't remember any of it and are doing it under heavy influence. Super rapey and not fun at all despite the pickmes bursting our of the woodwork to let us know how 'fun' these parties are.
She basically didn't anticipate the level of rapey evil involved imo, seems quite emotional and childish. I can't access her Instagram since she's on private and I don't wanna send a request, but she made a pinned stories called 'rammstein evil' and truly just seems too innocent to be involved in all of this.
she seems neurodivergent imoThe stories about what marilyn manson and trent reznor used to do are horrifying, like insane levels of abuse and they are all buddies.
girl needs to do her research next time.
I'm glad she's posting about it since it seems many girls are surprised by the nature of these parties.
No. 1838012
>>1837915One thing is "rock n roll" groupies and backstage shenanigans x getting drugged – it always existed, both at these bigger festivals and also in niche smaller clubs, and, unfortunately, always will, because of enabling scrotes, band / label connections, and simply brushing stuff under the rug so that the shows at the venue can go on. Some bands are
known and notorious for this shit (
>>1837979 kek, ikr) some may be more of a shocker. Sometimes the lines are blurred, sometimes it’s outright assault. Nothing excuses what those pieces of shit do, but at the same time, it’s mad naive to be living in 2023, with all this info plastered right in front of you (unlike it was back in the day when it was just word of mouth, sometimes with no solid proof) and go backstage to see Till Lindemann or Manson and expect to be okay. Why would you want to arrange a meetup with those haggard pervert scumbags at all??
>>1837979> Pickmes never thriveYou’re absolutely right, Anon. What about dignity, self-preservation instinct, and looking one after another as part of the bloody gig culture? Pickmeism is probably the only explanation.
But what’s more of a question – what the heck does this story have to do with Kaya? Kaya didn’t go to a festival, didn’t go backstage to meet some perv band, she was just out and about clubbing with her friends like on a regular Tuesday.
The fact that this Shelby girl had a horrible experience adds
nothing to Kaya’s case. And I’m
convinced some anons questioned Kaya not because they’re not inclined to believe a young woman can get drugged at a club and potentially assaulted. It’s just when she elaborated, there seemed to be grey areas / inconsistencies to the story. To me, personally, a lot of the story sounded ridiculous, but later on, quite a bit of local nonnies confirmed that this is how your healthcare system and club culture works, so that made me, personally, change my mind for the most part, even though some bits of it do still sound strange. You can’t blame, you know, foreign fags for disbelief with this one, because the healthcare part alone sounds like Stone Age to some of us. It’s not how it works in other parts of the world, of Europe,
at all. Has nothing to do with everyone’s favourite "hate boner", just the story, for a non-NI resident, does sound ludicrous, honest to god. That’s all. People are allowed to be sceptical. And Shelby’s news story has nothing to do with anything.
Sage for essay.
No. 1838019
>>1838012I'm the anon who made the Kaya comparison, it's more a fellow NI goth girl + spiked + bunch of doubters claiming she was "just drunk" or spiked herself on purpose that seemed similar to me. Seems like Shelby did a drug test and came up negative, probably because it was too many hours later, and had a difficult time with the police too.
Imo Kaya is a much more sensible girl than Shelby and I can't see something like this happening to her, but the reactions from h8ers you see in her Twitter replies definitely reminded me of the ones I saw here.
Also glad to read the part where you changed your opinion after hearing about the shitheap NHS and club culture kek.
No. 1838031
>>1838019People attacking and doubting a woman put in a dangerous situation by scrotes is misogyny and
victim blaming at it's finest. I cannot understand how anyone is shocked Till is a whole rapey scrote given his obvious behavior. Even the idea of him organizing a bunch of barely legal girls to come backstage to get absolutely wasted with him is obviously suspicious behavior for a 60+ year old man.
No. 1838076
>>1838031Why the fuck would you go backstage to the Till parties
after witnessing and hearing all about other girls being drugged and raped? Bear in mind these were not girls who turned up for some random event thrown by random scrotes that went horribly wrong. These are hardcore long term Rammstein fans who know all the lyrics, are obsessed with all the members, know all the lore, seen all the extremely explicit creepy videos, have read all the backstage and horror stories. Till has always been known as a misogynistic sex addicted creep since the 90s. These girls describe personally witnessing other girls being drugged and raped, knew stories of girls almost choking to death on their vomit after being facefucked by Till at preparty and still decide to go to the afterparty? Those scrotes deserve to die, but some personal responsibility from the girls who knew all this has to be taken here. And probably dragged their friends to come too. That’s fucked up. Stop enabling these scrotes. Anyway, I’ll try not to derail.
No. 1838099
>>1836790Grufties back in the day were also stealing stuff from cemeteries.
>>1837286Doesn't dead fetus count as "medical waste" in most of Europe? Also maybe it was sold from some liquidated medical education institution if it is authentic to begin with.It doesn't look too typical. Lacks of any separation between bones.
No. 1838165
>>1838076The thing is, its not fans all of the time.
The girl for row 0 gets approached as if it was a ”modeling” gig, and some of them know of the band but don’t listen to the music. Shelly was a fan, but I have seen story times from the gig from others who were not and was just there for the experience.
How ever, people are always in denial of bad things said about people they idolise so wouldn’t surprise me if hardcore fans just think it is lies for attention.
And further more, as I understand it, they get escorted everywhere they go when they are inside the consent hall, would they be able to leave just as they wish? Do they dare to try?
I know 10-15 years ago someone I new got to one of these after party’s. She was just about 18, was at the gig as a fan, front row and time one came and out a wristband on here and other girls for this party. Back then it was the whole band and not just till. I don’t know if anything happend, I just know that this has been going on forever.
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>>1838012The first time I heard about this was Sunday one of Kayas mates from monster Queen post about it.i think this is same girl that gave Kaya the love bite .
No. 1838380
>>1838293Not even surprised by this I seen a video of him fucking multiple women who were flopping all over the place they looked extremely drunk he was slapping them and choking them and they would just like melt into the floor like they were limp and out of it it was a horrible video it used to be on Reddit years ago I have no idea if it was real or staged.
Tbh he looks like the type pervy old man with a high status who think they can just get away with this. I hope he gets black listed and I hope all the girls were ok . This is why you always bring a plus on to concerts and don’t drink what people give you
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Apparently jude is doing OF again. I didn't even know she stopped, but it was full of weird ddlg shit and bruises and scratches on her body (there's leaks in her own old threads if any nonas wanna subject themselves to that), I wonder if her starting again means she's pounced on yet another "daddy" who's ashamed to be seen with her but is still with her bc she's an easy lay
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Confirming that Reeree wants a boob job
No. 1838500
>>1838390It's not misogyny. The main problem is the drugging someone without contest tho. Group orgies before, during and after gigs are far less
problematic if participants take both part in orgy and their drugs willingly. In such cases it's the problem mainly for them and their therapists. When someone adds stuff to someone's drinks/food without their consent that's an assault. An assault that is unjustified is a criminal activity.
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>>1838587>>1838573It also seems she came out with the allegation in reaction to the "star fucker" song he released which alludes to both her and MM? Also, what is with Trent's Asian fetish? I don't follow him very closely by any means and I can't seem to easily (or safely) google this. kek
No. 1838814
>>1838599Wouldn't trust courtney all that much. she's been loopy for a long time.
I've been in the NIN-adjacent corners for years, and I've never had heard any talk of it besides from her and MM who are obviously bitter about their own fucked-up shit.
Like, you'd think there would be ANY proof besides the words of two people who are abusers themselves, but not a single
victim came out since.
Sorry for being a Trent whiteknight on main, but like. I loved his music and been around in his "bandom" or whatever for more than a decade, and he seems like a genuinely okay guy? After he stopped doing drugs ofc. He just seems like a depressed older dad these days, while Till and MM still try to fuck everything that moves at their age.
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>>1838814From a 2010 interview with Ogre from Skinny Puppy. It’s not rape orgies, but it shows an indifference towards their female fans
No. 1839375
>>1838784I agree with you, I’m not a fan of Courtney either. Her daughter is a huge mess too btw. But, idk, the obvious cow behaviour on those particular instances still doesn’t overwrite her experiences with these scrotes, and the behind the scenes knowledge, like she
knows these fuckers for who they truly are.
Her cowism and the fact that she’s been witch-hunted for most her life sure washes out some credibility to these stories in the eyes of the general public, but, in a micromanaged world of yes-men, I’m still glad she’s vocal about it. She does carry "a reputation", but she’s definitely not a nobody in the rock scene, and she’s one of the few names who do have something to say, and can be trusted on said truths as first-hand witnesses. And thankfully, at times, they do come crashing these echo-chambers of undeserved praise and "recognition" of the self-proclaimed talents, achievements and characteristics of these literal pieces of shit.
No. 1839385
>>1839010Well, if you think about it this way,
theoretically one can suffer a horrible death from nearly anything. But that’s just theory. Realistically, the probability of you succeeding dying by paracetamol suicide is super slim for the exact cases you’ve stated yourself. It’s a long arse process, and you have to consume a whole bunch, and you will start vomiting and getting admitted to have your stomach pumped etc to top off with the stuff that comes after they realise you did it on purpose… It’s pointless, and people who claim attempting this are usually just edge-lords seeking attention (not really meaning to die).
Think about this too, paracetamol is one of the most accessible (in the Western world) otc medications you can think of. If "paracetamol suicide" was
really a thing, then why all these terminal patients suffering through
horrific pains and endless torture every living second of their life, begging to legalise euthanasia, are forced to just stick through it until their time comes on hardcore prescription drugs (that barely work) and street drugs, when they can just down some paracetamol for 2 weeks and call it a day? Because there’s little practical application. Apologies for slight derail.
(Derail) No. 1839422
>>1839385This is way offtopic anon, take it to OT. In the uk you can only buy small packs of paracetemol, in the us you can buy bottles of hundreds. It is legally limited for safety reasons even if you don't take it seriously. Even long term daily use of just one or two tablets causes stomach damage. No idea why you're discounting the seriousness just because it's not "extreme" enough for you.
The altcow that prompted this discussion has already asked her doctor to euthanise her(!) so I think she is pretty damn serious actually
No. 1839753
>>1838092This is the sad truth. We can document and archive all the shit that
problematic and
abusive bands/musicians/etc. do but young girls will never listen. They think they'll be the exception and unfortunately learn the hard way. We can't force them to not go to these events so the best we can do is keep archiving and hoping some girls will be smart not to get involved in this and pray for the best.