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No. 1727907

For all the attention seekers, grifters and other assorted idiots in the alternative community

Most recent cows:
-Jake Munro aka Snake aka Fake, extremely unoriginal "musician", after his Casey Neistat imitation vlogs didn't take off he got famous from doing TikTok react videos. Known for copying the aesthetics of many musicians such as MM and Dir En Grey. Music is really unoriginal too, his most successful songs are covers. Has an obsessive cult fanbase of tweens and lonely middle aged women, calls himself "goth daddy" after saying all goths are cunts. Got his channel started by leeching off his gf, Kaya, then dumped her when he got famous enough
-ToxicTears (Kaya), veteran youtuber, one of the OG "goths", used to get hundreds of thousands of views but her channel has dwindled, now she constantly makes excuses not to film and when she does it's usually an unboxing or a Q&A or GRWM. Has been pretty active on TikTok lately
-Kat Paine aka Skat, married tattoo artist who Jake cheated on Kaya with, has a kid. Traces her tattoo designs, vocab includes "shots!", "drinks", and giggling
-Jude Bishop, OF thot and ddlg pedo-pandering pickme who is also "goth", has her own thread but crosses over here too, publicly thirsts for Jake
-ItsBlackFriday (Freyja), goth youtuber, country hopper, terrible planner.
-Psychara, witchy instagoth who fries her hair
-Of Herbs and Altars (Dorian), goth youtuber who does videos on her ana and drugs past (now published about it too), believes she can fuck ghosts
-Adora BatBrat, instagoth who likes posting provocative stuff for shock value
-Ruadhan, youtuber, rambling shit stirrer

…and other cows who are discussed but not necessarily producing significant or frequent milk.

Updates from last thread:
>>>/snow/1671530 Jake opens a NSFW account for anyone who wants to see their last meal again.
>>>/snow/1673680 >>>/snow/1673691 More colouring book tattoos from Kat.
>>>/snow/1675419 Jude has lost another "daddy".
>>>/snow/1681536 >>>/snow/1681537 >>>/snow/1681539 >>>/snow/1681541 Jake chimps out at a viewer, claims Kaya scams her viewers for money and praises himself for not airing out their dirty laundry so soon after the breakup.
>>>/snow/1682072 Chimp out number 2, Jakes life is great and yours is not.
>>>/snow/1686821 VR content from Jake is yet to be seen at time of this post.
>>>/snow/1687844 Chimp out number 3, Jake claims Kaya has stolen equipment from him, criticises her tattoos.
>>>/snow/1688957 Chimp out number 4, he's still obsessed with Kaya.
>>>/snow/1690867 Jake puts out a shitty mix of a cover song and admits to all that he didn't even try. Months in the works, btw.
>>>/snow/1699517 IBF gets denied boarding a flight to New Zealand, e-begs to fund a new ticket.
>>>/snow/1708769 >>>/snow/1709314 Jake drops a 2 hour video detailing his and Kayas relationship.
>>>/snow/1709312 Kaya drops a 3 hour response.

The abundance of milk caused people to split off and take the discussions into a new Kaya/Jake/Kat thread. These threads contain excellent summaries of the videos and archives of various things, however nothing major has happened since. Anons are split on keeping the threads separate or returning to Altcows, and I know for sure any updates about the two will likely be posted in both threads, so do whatever you feel like I guess.
The summary of this thread largely focuses on Kaya/Jake, because not much else has been happening. Please feel free to update us on forgotten cows or introduce new ones.
>>>/snow/1705825 Kaya/Jake thread #1
>>>/snow/1715677 Kaya/Jake thread #2

Previous thread:

No. 1727909

I keep fucking up the links… Sorry anons can't remember how to do it properly, I don't wanna keep deleting and flooding the boards. Happy goffmas to all, anyways

No. 1727968

You need to add "," after a link like this

>>>/snow/1673680 , >>>/snow/1673691

Since we are in /snow/, you can link the posts like this:

>>1673680, >>1673691

(kekk I fucked it up myself too)

No. 1727972

Fixed OP

Updates from last thread:
>>1671530 Jake opens a NSFW account for anyone who wants to see their last meal again.
>>1673680, >>1673691 More colouring book tattoos from Kat.
>>1675419 Jude has lost another "daddy".
>>1681536, >>1681537, >>1681539, >>1681541 Jake chimps out at a viewer, claims Kaya scams her viewers for money and praises himself for not airing out their dirty laundry so soon after the breakup.
>>1682072 Chimp out number 2, Jakes life is great and yours is not.
>>1686821 VR content from Jake is yet to be seen at time of this post.
>>1687844 Chimp out number 3, Jake claims Kaya has stolen equipment from him, criticises her tattoos.
>>1688957 Chimp out number 4, he's still obsessed with Kaya.
>>1690867 Jake puts out a shitty mix of a cover song and admits to all that he didn't even try. Months in the works, btw.
>>1699517 IBF gets denied boarding a flight to New Zealand, e-begs to fund a new ticket.
>>1708769, >>1709314 Jake drops a 2 hour video detailing his and Kayas relationship.
>>1709312 Kaya drops a 3 hour response.

The abundance of milk caused people to split off and take the discussions into a new Kaya/Jake/Kat thread. These threads contain excellent summaries of the videos and archives of various things, however nothing major has happened since. Anons are split on keeping the threads separate or returning to Altcows, and I know for sure any updates about the two will likely be posted in both threads, so do whatever you feel like I guess.
The summary of this thread largely focuses on Kaya/Jake, because not much else has been happening. Please feel free to update us on forgotten cows or introduce new ones.
>>1705825 Kaya/Jake thread #1
>>1715677 Kaya/Jake thread #2

No. 1727976

Last time I tried that they were all green, must've found some new way to mess up. Thank you for teaching me anon!
Thank you both (or same anon), very much appreciated

No. 1727979

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These stories are from yesterday, but IBF is/was in hospital, hopefully she and her baby are okay.

No. 1727982

Any date earlier than 38 weeks can be problematic, but if she goes into labor the baby has a 95% chance of survival.

No. 1727983

that's scary, hope it will be okay

No. 1728136

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Herbs is about to drop a video on her spicy straightness and nlogism. I don't know if I'll watch it at some point. I suppose it will be 70 % muh autism, 29% fangirling over Oscar Wilde and 1% British politeness.

No. 1728146

Maybe Im wrong but I thought she dropped the whole genderspecial thing now shes tryna milk it again? She comes across as a huge grifter.

No. 1728150

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A musical collab between racist alt celebricows that no one wanted or asked for is coming to assault our ears much like Marilyn Manson assaults his girlfriends kek

No. 1728152

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From the comments

No. 1728156

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I thought that too but it turns out she just quits it sometimes. She's too quirky to be a woman unless doing X as a woman sounds cool and it could give her more views.

No. 1728270

He's starting to look like late stage Elvis

No. 1728529

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I dunno nonny, as much as I hate elvis I think MM is uglier. I'm assuming Kat is using an older photo of them together unless he got a facelift recently or something.

Seems unlikely since he just bought a new house priced higher than the last one he just sold though.


No. 1728581

Mother of goff, "goff zhanrass", here we come again. Yes, goth and industrial are two separate things. Also "other stuff" and goth are separate. But when Americans enter the topic of "genres of goth" the gates of madness open.

Why murricans are so obsessed with teh zhanraz? OK, mostly oldest part of US millenials and some pars of "mid millenials" are. The USA gen X pretty much called everything "deathrock". Yes, even Siouxie and the Banshees been called that back in the days. Just fucking ask any US gen X who actually been around as the part of the scene back then. For hug sake.

Millenial burgers don't even understand that post punk and new wave were synonymous and almost no one was using term "goth" outside the UK back in the 80s. Most Europe called gothic rock "coldwave" or "darkwave". Yet every murrican tuber must at some point produce a video about 666 zhanrass of goff - where they with straight face differentiate between "post punk", "new wave", deathrock, coldwave, darkwave while to the most people who actually remember the '80s post punk and new wave were just two terms for the same stuff just used in different regions and also deathrock was the US term for what UK called gothic rock and what most of continental Europe (Soviet Union included) called "cold wave" or "dark wave" (that term is older than actual synthesizer lead goth bands). And that gothic rock/dirge/deathrock/darkwave/coldwave/zimna fala/Todeskunst was a subgenre of New Wave a.k.a. Post Punk a.k.a. Neue Welle.

And try to explain that to these genre obsessed murricans. Good luck, they claim how genres are so freaking important yet they are resisting to facts that they are getting terminology totally wrong. Heck they are not even able to come with consistent classification for which band played which of their imaginary subgenres. Which for anyone with above room temperature IQ should be a dead giveaway that there is something fundamentally wrong with such claims. Heck even originally UK bands who burgers agree that played gothic rock had in many cases very different sound and only common mood and themes plus descending from punk scene wee only common factor they shared. The most ridiculous attempt I seen was classification of a band as "[their vision of]deathrock genre" by the fact that at least one member was sporting a mohawk/deathhawk hairstyle. If you want to imagine my reaction to that - picture a person hysterically laughing and rhythmically hitting table top with their head.

But no, burgers are resistant to such arguments. They just repeat that bullshit over and over everywhere they can and get butthurt every time you counter their narratives. If someone don't believe me - try interacting with them on reddit's r/goth. You can measure time between start of conversation and getting banned in hours at max. They managed to transfer their genres retardation to non USA based online dwellers who mostly never been around any actual scene members who remember pre millenials scene. As these people constantly ridicule and mock nonsense these millenials fanatically preach.

No. 1728604

Who cares? Where’s the milk?

No. 1728631

There isn't any, there's just an anon that pops up in Altcows from time to time sperging about what's real goth and what isn't with no actual milk, just report the derail and ignore.

No. 1728834

I think Angela should take it easy with the Chinese AI filters.

No. 1728882

I know she and her husband have fucked up views on children being able to "consent" to rape skewing her view on these relationships, but anyone with two braincells can see the accusations and Mason's history targeting girls who are then clearly isolated and then pushed into skin walking Dita and realize he's probably a creep at the very least. Kat actually knowing him probably gives her more possible experience seeing him control his partners. But no, Kat just needs to act like every other idiot who asks people to "read for themselves" while possessing no critical thinking skills to actually read into the whole story then combine facts to a better picture. "read for yourself" usually just means "read whatever the mainstream isn't accepting and totally accept that as fact instead". Kat never grew out of her contrarian high school persona and it shows

No. 1728883

I really don't have the patience to sit through a 40+ minute video of Dorian waffling on about but with how stupid gender ideology is, I find a video like this to be really telling of where some of Dorian's issues come from.

If anyone here is willing to take a hit for the team and watch and summarize, it would be much appreciated for those of us who don't want to listen to her talk for a prolonged amount of time.

No. 1728910

>Why murricans are so obsessed with teh zhanraz? OK, mostly oldest part of US millenials and some pars of "mid millenials" are. The USA gen X pretty much called everything "deathrock". Yes, even Siouxie and the Banshees been called that back in the days. Just fucking ask any US gen X who actually been around as the part of the scene back then. For hug sake.

Okay I'll bite as a murrican who does care about sub-genre breakdowns and it's as simple as just wanting to make it easier for people to understand as well as having interest in learning about music in general. I like helping newbies get into the music and when I was a teenager, there was practically not much information on what actual goth music was. I would see bands like Evanescence, Rammstein, Coal Chamber, HIM, Manson, and even Slipknot and MCR referred to as "goth music" back in the early 2000s And as a dumb teenager, I just didn't know where to go to find proper information about goth music. So I take what I observed an listened to in order to help better under the music when I finally got around to finding actual goth music. I personally break it down because I like studying music as well as helping newbies dipping their toes into the genre, giving the information that I wish I had growing up.

And I'm sorry but there is a difference between Deathrock and Goth Rock. Sisters of Mercy and Catherine's Cathedral don't sound like Christian Death or Dystopian Society for example. And people who call Siouxsie and the Banshees "Deathrock" nowadays may not now what Deathrock actually sounds like.

No. 1728912

I don't understand why she uses them, she looks fine imo. That's part of why I miss her old videos when she didn't film with them because it's kind of distracting.

No. 1728961

talks about how vampires making her write male characters made her realise she was a 99% gay male but how in 2010 she could not go on low dose testosterone to achieve an androgynous look and phalloplasty is not at a stage that would fulfil her aries big dick energy

No. 1728985


Lemme guess, you are from the USA or Australia?

>And I'm sorry but there is a difference between Deathrock and Goth Rock.

Yes, one term originated in the US other in the UK. That's about that about difference between them. Neither presented any coherent sound and only common thing was hat they sounded like darker/sadder/gloomier "punky stuff".

>Sisters of Mercy and Catherine's Cathedral don't sound like Christian Death or Dystopian Society for example.

Neither The Chameleons sound like The Dance Society or Sad Lovers and Giants or The Specimen or Alien Sex Fiend. And these bands come from same country and originated around the same time - 1980/1981 few years after Siouxie and The Banshees and Bauhaus. I never seen anyone even attempting to not call them gothic rock, tho I do not remember '80s so keep that in mind.

> And people who call Siouxsie and the Banshees "Deathrock" nowadays may not now what Deathrock actually sounds like.

It does not sound like anything in particular. It's just a term that originated in the US for darker gloomier punk, many of these bands sounded nothing alike when that term was born (Christian Death and Morticia are two separate sounds).

I don't even remember anyone using that term here in Europe anymore for quite few years. It was "trendy" term back in the '00s, but it's popularity faded since. And I hang around quite a few goth rock festivals in Europe. Yes, a lot of people do call Christian Death just "goth band"/"gothic rock band" here.

Please do not try to prove to me that the US been somewhat very separated from the UK (as I have seen that trick pulled out several times already as an "argument" that "Deathrock" was "unique unblemished snowflake"). It was not. In 1981 there already been a mixed band Lords of The New Church. Also both scenes shared '70s influences, yes they also had local ones that were unique but does it constitute different subgenres? If yes then every country in Europe should represent different "goff zhanra" which would be insane. Yes, Polish People's Republic and Soviet Ukraine (Soviet Union Republic back then) had bands that were called back then "cold wave" (tho Poland had few times more than Ukraine) tho they presented rather different sounds. Also Soviet Lithuania sounded different than Soviet Ukraine. There was also Yugoslavia that ha own sound - also called coldwave back then. If I would ever had to "average" sound of all these "Iron Curtain" bands excluding eastern Germany I would say they sounded somewhat close to Virgin Prunes (which on it's own was a very diverse sounding band) which was the UK band of pretty early genealogy among goth bands. That that would mean I ignore a lot of unique features like influences of local folk music and local "iron curtain" "big beat" ("commie bloc" term used for rock'and'roll) on them.

The only reason that someone even been using term Deatrock outside of the US back in the '00s was because it was trendy. Just like back in the '90s it was trendy to call yourself coldwave in Europe and deny having anything in common with "gothic rock". Of course when asked musicians were enumerating various bands from the UK that even you would call gothic rock. The whole "'00s Deathrock Revival" was rather "older millenials fantasy about how the US scene sounded and looked back in the '80s" with very narrow selection of sound and looks than it was actually played and worn back in the "original deathrock days" and also introducing quite a lot of new elements while totally ignoring many elements.

And don't even make me start on Germans and their obsession of creating zilions of special snowflake dark and gloomy genres created especially to label music of a one or two bands. 99 percent of terms they came up with no one remembers anymore. German goths to this day also use the term "grufti" for members of subculture. Does it magically make them "not goths"? I don't think so.(learn2integrate)

No. 1728987

no1curr, take your chimp out and redditspacing elsewhere

No. 1729009

Shit, nona, really? I see your post is unsaged and I can't believe what I'm reading. Did vampires really make her realise she's just not like other girls? Did she explain at any point why she keeps calling her evil imaginary friends vampires when, according to what she narrated one year ago, those entities had nothing in common with actual vampires? Is there any mention to Poppy Z. Britte? Because someone mentioned her in the Fakebois thread today and I couln't help but think of our favourite excrackhead. Damn, to think that Herbs fits perfectly in ProAna Scumbags, TiF/Fakebois and the Alt thread all at once…

No. 1729023

This is an image board not fucking reddit.

No. 1729059

NTA, but I just listened myself and it's about accurate.
> Is there any mention to Poppy Z. Britte?
She states that she took her middle name some character from her books, but doesn't actually talk about Poppy.

Other fun details.

>wrote fanfiction about her vampire characters, including full lyrics to their vampire songs (and maybe recordings, too?).

>claims the vampires wrote these songs, not her. they simply control her as if they are muses.
>created a character whose singing voice changed when she became immortal. dorian's singing voice inexplicably began changing on its own to be deep and raspy as well
>is convinced her sex dreams with a penis were accurate to having a real penis
>'the mostly gay boy i always should've been'
>non-binary people don't owe you androgyny blah blah
>says she pretends her name isn't Dorian when people are shit-talking about her online
>says she has two secret names that she'll never tell anybody that she considers to be her true names. bitch, what's in a name?

but also
>alludes to the constant UTIs that FTMs get after phalloplasty
>says if you don't want to be misgendered, you should try harder to make people assume your pronouns or just stop caring
>warns that transition regrets can be massive and that you should be very careful when considering transitioning

No. 1729411

People like this are what’s wrong with the subculture with your weird Reddit sperg gatekeeping? Please never come back

No. 1729450

Someone should explain to her what internalized misogyny is so she could finally make one plus one with her depression, her self harm, her ED… Long ago she posted a video about asperger or autism symptoms where she acknowledged she was female (didn't she? I never saw it because it's not the kind of her content I watch) . It'w weird that she's comfortable describing herself as such and then continues larping as a gay man. It also amuses me that she claims to have sensory issues with clothes, accessories and makeup when she's always seen wearing multiple pieces of cheap crap while sporting the heaviest makeup looks (now she even wears stickers around her eyes). Sorry for the rant.

No. 1729534

I've seen a lot of alt TiFs claim to be "vampire gender" for some reason, which is weird because vampires tend to be pretty gender conforming.

No. 1729575

Yeah, maybe it's because male vampires are sometimes portrayed in mainstream media without facial hair or even without body hair, and their appeareance is heavily manicured. I'm having Anne Rice vampires in mind. But I don't think vampires are really androgynous either, people get fooled by period fashion and apply XXI century gender bias.

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No. 1729650

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Proserpina doesn’t like to be called out for her negativeness

No. 1729732

This absolute grifter. I don’t have the caps but I remember she begged people to pay her vet bills and buy shit from her eshop and whatnot. Then one day she gets expensive human hair extensions, high end hair products, skincare. All while living at home? And she claims she gets everything for free because she’s an influencer? Look at her failed Instagram. Fuck outta’ here and her cunty ass attitude.

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Wait, previously she was claiming it’s all gifted and now says it’s a waist of money. That’s not adding up

No. 1730277

Kat von d should keep her mouth shut because she has nothing of intelligence to say. From being anti vaxx to pro supporting rapists. wtf

No. 1730311

All the greentext at the end sounds somewhat sensible from her, but this same woman also believes she has imaginary friends who are real and have control over her. Get it together girl.

No. 1730494

The timing was suspicious as fuck. She got human hair extensions, hair installed in the salon which included colour and bleach, high end haircare, a bunch of skincare her followers recommend her and fillers. She's probably on disability because she doesn't work and lives at home but it'd be around $600 AUD a fortnight. Hardly enough to be splurging like that unless she saved previously and her parents don't charge her anything. But if that's the case it makes her asking for money for vet bills look even worse.
She's always been a massive grifter, she can't ever keep her story straight. The only time I've ever believed one of her stories was her dog who did in fact need surgery and unfortunately passed away. She didn't deserve to lose her dog but her irresponsible spending and previous history ensured she had to post a bunch of angry/crying stories defending herself from accusations. (Ofc she would just blame her bpd if anyone brought this up). What doesn't make sense in my mind is the fact she said she was too late, so her dog passed away, which I assume means she wasn't able to spend the entirety of the 8k on the surgery or was partially reimbursed and claims to have spent the rest on cremation. I may be wrong but I suspect some of that money didn't go to where she says it did, but it's not like I'd expect her to give it back at that point either.

No. 1730496

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Samefag. Here's her crying about one of her new skincare items her followers recommend actually having temporary side effects in order to see results (why she didn't research vitamin A beforehand is beyond me) and complaining she can't get multiple plastic surgeries because the surgeon refused her. How she can afford expensive surgeries for herself and not her dog I don't understand? Maybe she was going down the tranny route by trying to get it done through Medicare for ~muh mental wellbeing~ but was refused, idk.

No. 1730580

I don't understand it either, especially since she seems to present herself as knowledgeable in skincare and was on TikTok basically bragging about looking young for her age. Does anyone remember back in the day, on her Patreon she said she was going to use money for injections/fillers and do vlogs about it. I never gave her my money so I have no idea if she got filler or not.

No. 1730728

>how dare you not give me the unnecessary surgeries that I see people on Instagram advertise for insecure bitches like me???

But there are surgeons willing to do troon surgeries, and whatever the hell they did to ollie London, she'll find one eventually.

No. 1730767

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Her chin isn’t really a problem, having Jeffrey Dahmer and co on her arm is. she would look fine without her hideous makeup and body mods.

No. 1730806

No WK but something can be a waste of money even if it wasn't money belonging to the person who got gypped.

No. 1730820

I remember this miserable pig, wow she's still terminally online and sporting those terrible serial killer tattoos!??? Holy shit lol. And dying at the post above where she's crying "you guys just have to accept me for who I am" not really? She's been getting shit on online for YEARS over her tattoos, scams and terrible, horrible attitude towards everyone and everything. Get fucked, Victoria.

No. 1730882

I think Angela seems to be one of those women who look good for their age and love to subtly brag about how young they still look. Sometimes these kind of women end up obsessing so much about maintaining a youthful appearance that they eventually go too far with this and end up botching themselves or overusing filters/photoshop to the point they'll look worse than women their same age who don't take care of themselves so meticulously. It's sad that youthful = pretty to so much women.

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As much as I like excessive bodymods sometimes I agree she'd look so much better without hers. Her overdone lips are what makes her chin look too small. And her tattoos are an absolute mess, she needs to laser them off or have them blacked out. There is still plenty of negative space she could use for something nice like picrel. Don't know what she could do for that ugly thing on her forehead though besides maybe hiding it under a fringe.

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Speaking of overdone lips

No. 1731204

Oh my god help-
It looks horrid.

I’m actually usually a fan of Jazmin’s looks but this is just not cute whatsoever.

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Weird that Kai Decadence is gc (his latest Reddit comments are arguing about Buck Angel) but uses reference pics of herbsandalters. He posts more screen caps of Dorian in the comments. First time I’ve seen a gay man try to look like someone who id’s as a gay trans man instead of the reverse.

Kai’s pretty hypocritical imo, he claims to be a radfem ally and against men and womens spaces but used to (and probably still does) post on lolcow knowing it’s female only (spelling Goth with a capital G and promoting his channel and cadaverkellys in the same sentence are some of his giveaways), iirc there was a ‘female’ user on kiwi farms who was suspected to be Kai who would comment about goth in between the Blair White threads. He also used to post his selfies on the sissy subreddits.

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Her lips make her look like a tiny chin toad fr

No. 1734266

But why? That's like the ugliest haircut Dorian has ever pulled out of her sleeve. It's like a failed Final Fantasy haircut gone full karencore (nothing against women who righteously complain about poor services).

No. 1734721

Are Jake and K still friends? Haven't seen him mention her in a while

No. 1734818

He stop talking about k after he went to see them in Germany and they said they were to tired to do anything and jake was alone eating sad nugget. I think the video called my wallet was stolen

No. 1734884

K is a woman

No. 1734966

Crooked grammar anon, is that you again?

No. 1737219

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Avelina De Moray has been quiet other than still slinging her “goth” influencer bags and working on her music… and it is TERRIBLE. She posted this cover and her voice doesn’t seem to suit any song. She needs to be stopped.

No. 1737425

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Jazmin talking like she's gonna sell jewelry that looks as melted as her lips will become

No. 1738378

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Mamie at it again with something that looks like a 10 year old worded it, and the “something bad happened to me, I need you to know, don’t ask what, but it was traumatic and you needed to know”

No. 1738391

>each costs £90+
Lol delusional much?

No. 1738394

File: 1672977377312.jpeg (1.16 MB, 1242x1770, 18496A81-E2B9-48AF-9CAC-CDE5CA…)

Still laughing at ugliness of this picture.
Name my band, lolcor.

No. 1738421

Filth Pigs

No. 1738449

why does she repeat the same thing like 4 times, jesus fuck she could have stopped after the first paragraph.

No. 1738458

Kek. If that's true a large chunk of her audience, edgy 14 year olds, can't afford that.

It's giving British

No. 1738550

is that hoso terra toma in the front?

No. 1738575

This is so embarrassing

No. 1738758

File: 1673028313019.jpg (Spoiler Image, 54.93 KB, 720x771, FB_IMG_1673028151517.jpg)

Seems like Manson celebrated his birthday yesterday at Kat Von D house

No. 1738771

He’s so bloated and fat. It’s genuinely hilarious that Kat Von D is his only friend now.

Given her propensity for starfucking, her delusional aspirations of being a musician, and taste for men who are ugly as shit… I am keeping my fingers crossed for cheating scandal milk. Can you imagine the prayers guy going full cholo and trying to gangbang on Manson kek

No. 1738786

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No. 1738787

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Haha wtf

No. 1738816

Joe Mangianello and David Lynch behind him? Kek I hope I'm wrong

No. 1738840

Unfamiliar with the first person, but definitely not David Lynch.

No. 1738841

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KVD is cringe as fuck. Of all the assholes to simp for, she goes for MM?!?

No. 1738862

Jesus. Her ability to judge people’s character is hilariously bad. How many times has she been friends with or dated a total piece of shit and it caused her career completely avoidable damage? I know she’s irrelevant now compared to the heyday of her makeup line, but she still has at least one halfway successful shoe business to think about.

Can’t wait to see how this implodes.

No. 1738872

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It’s all fun and games until Manson beats your kid with a bat. Seriously side eyeing this parenting choice of having Leafar stand so close to the piñata and MM. or just Leafar being there at all.

No. 1738887

>> 1738841
She’s like this because she’s stupid and will believe any sob story a moid tells her. She’s a narcissist who gets off on thinking she can see “misunderstood” people for who they really are when actually she’s just retarded and projecting.

While yes, she’s also a piece of shit herself, I think the main reason she both befriends and publicly simps for him (and other losers like her husband) is because they have her totally fooled. Bitch legit thinks Marilyn Manson is an unproblematic cinnamon roll who needs her protection. He does not give a shit about her, and it’ll be funny to see how she reacts when she finally realizes it.

No. 1738888

Since when is Manson’s idea of a party been a wholesome family get together with piñatas and little kids? He looks like he’s cringing internally in all these pictures kek

No. 1738911

As someone who actually liked Dorian's hairstyle that you linked during that uh, era(?) of her hair phase even though I would never personally do it because I prefer having longer hair, I can kinda see the appeal? But then again, I also unironically like the "Karen" haircut kek.

No. 1738913

File: 1673049566236.jpeg (48.27 KB, 970x510, download.jpeg)

unfortunately, it does look like joe mangianello and manson have a preexisting friendship. sofia vergara deserves so much better. >>1738816

No. 1738915

She sure ends up with some awful men. Chris Paciello, the guy who tried to steal her eggs, a Manson bff etc.

No. 1738919

>Kai’s pretty hypocritical imo, he claims to be a radfem ally and against men and womens spaces but used to (and probably still does) post on lolcow knowing it’s female only
You really are a fucking idiot for posting this anon.

No. 1738965

I saw a picture of MM recently and it looked like he stole Yoshikis honey brown color weave

No. 1739063

their relationship is giving Dom Mommy Little Boy vibes. she threw him a bday party like a child! and he’s so fcked up with mommy issues… like other anon said they’re probably screwing.
There was some chola chick wannabe Dita Von Teese looking burlesque “model” and aspiring actress who was his assistant. I wonder if her instagram is still public. she posted every b day party she attended. Paulababy is the name. she was his big defender on some derange pick me youtuber when the allegations became public

No. 1740641

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Your mental health is gonna come with you girl, it's not a bag you can sell on depop

No. 1741118

File: 1673343620533.jpg (42.73 KB, 484x748, 049735.JPG)

IBF has had her second baby, named Montrose Cyril

No. 1741128

When he’s 25 he’s gonna change his name to billy bob and become a conservative christian trucker

No. 1741129

File: 1673345506505.jpg (15.98 KB, 338x137, 8343.JPG)

Montrose seems to be a surname as well

No. 1741236


Montrose is a place up the coast in Scotland, a small very hicky fishing village lmao.

No. 1741244

Cyril Montrose would sound really cool imo I'm not sure why she did it like that

No. 1741474

Nice to hear the labor went will and the baby is okay. But I'm curious if she's gonna pop out anymore kids or if this one will be her last.

No. 1741727

She's not misjudging people's characters, don't be naive. This is not a mistake, she knows who and what they are and chooses to be friends with them exactly because of their shittiness, the same shit she herself thinks. No one is fooling her into anything. Assholes are friends with assholes.

100% KVD is doing this for him to see her as not-like-the-other-girls, the ultimate alt pick-me Manson's mummy/last woman on earth still pampering him. It's super clear that if they're no fucking she is heavily laying the groung for it… I bet she's already planning on moving to the next husband…

Sounds like a name for a drink.
I gotta be honest and say that even considering the whole goth factor, to me her babies names just sound like she's insane. Not even in a tacky or dramatic goth way, fucking weird name combinations. Who in their right mind names a child Montrose? Is he a gay tennist in the 40's? wtf

No. 1742389

Late but the Mickey Mouse piñata in the background sent my sides into orbit
I don't know who this party looks worse for. KVD for the optics of a Manson party just for the sake of him being "cancelled" as well, or Manson reduced to a child-friendly birthday party with a Mickey Mouse piñata and grocery store cake

No. 1745740

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She claims people have been asking to get tattoos of her mediocre art so she made a flash sheet. Each is £70. Kekk

No. 1745990

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I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Vanessa Alexander. She is an ex suicide girl who has had some drama in various circles in the past. She was an extra in Manson's heart shaped glasses video and came out in support of him suddenly which resulted in her being invited out of the blue to this birthday party despite not speaking to him previously for years. She immediately went around social media telling everyone about it too.

No. 1745991

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No. 1745993

Here's the interview she did that apparently got her back in his good graces. It's kind of funny because she doesn't actually debunk a whole lot of anything and admits to everyone being drunk or on drugs at the time of filming.

No. 1746001

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Here's something from an old OT thread that summarizes some of her old milk fairly well for those interested on some of her backstory.

No. 1746185

Wow he really was scraping the bottom of the barrel for people to invite. I'm glad to see him lonely and friendliness aside from the pickmes and users ready to pounce on his desperate for friends ass. I have a feeling if we see any more of him it will be almost exclusively with a rotation of people using him for clout then dropping him when they realise he's not valuable anymore. Of course he probably has a couple dedicated scrote friends who've probably raped women and girls too
Sorry for spoonfeeding but what is this miscarriage photoshoot? I tried searching for it but just got depressing news articles of girls commuting suicide from miscarriages

No. 1746211

Any celebrity can pay some sellout idiot to lie on their behalf anyway

No. 1746285

File: 1673903321962.png (Spoiler Image, 882.25 KB, 631x830, vanessaalexandria.png)

It's probably been wiped from the internet at this point since it's so old, but I remember seeing the photos ages back when she was still a suicide girl and groupie of the band. Basically it was a sexualized photoshoot themed around a prom miscarriage? Like in a stall, blood on the walls, holding a doll or something. She took it down pretty quickly after a backlash.

This is one of the only old suicide girls photos I could find of her, thankfully due to the farms. Also, I spelled her name wrong in my initial post, it's "Vanessa Alexandria" not Alexander, lmao.

No. 1746524

File: 1674066797681.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 54.79 KB, 399x599, DDBA55F6-FC5C-4F43-9AFD-3CAEC9…)

Oh this shit?

No. 1747879

File: 1674088801940.png (Spoiler Image, 315.2 KB, 606x672, vanessaolddrama.png)

that's the one. There were other photos from the same set, but this is definitely from the set mentioned. Thanks anon!

I know the farms are up and down a lot lately so it's hard to keep up on the threads, but here's some other related screenshots in relation to this old cow for anyone interested.

No. 1747883

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She posts her old photos all the time and retells this story a ton too (popcorn and slimfast). Feels like at least once a year? The claim that girls were eating cotton balls covered in Vaseline is pretty wild though.

No. 1747888

File: 1674089178262.png (Spoiler Image, 1.02 MB, 673x1200, vanessayesimmorbid.png)

Used to post a lot of weird shit like this and weird close up photos of herself crying all of the time. Especially around her birthday begging for gifts because "no one loved her". She deleted a lot of those posts but she left a handful of the crying photos up.

Reminder that she's like 40 years old now. So she was like 32 in this specific post. kek

No. 1747892

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Okay last one for now. She deleted the text that went along with this photo for whatever reason, but the gist of it was that she did a photoshoot with a photographer dressed up as what was supposed to be Edger Allen Poe. The photographer gave her the photos, but said he wasn't comfortable sharing them online because she looked like Hitler in them. This made her go into full blown meltdown mode and post on FB trying to drag the guy and get ass pats per the usual. The comments are all still there. lmao

No. 1748132

If it's actually dir en grey does anyone have a link to the thread?poor die

No. 1748143

Who is this die? what band are we talking about?

No. 1748155

I think it's dir en grey,japanese visual KEI/metal band.he is a guitarist

No. 1748453

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There might be an old thread on lolcow somewhere, but this was livejournal era milk so it might be difficult to find. She was a groupie and fucking Die from the japanese band Dir en grey when they first started coming to america to tour. She became obsessed and started trying to tell people she was his girlfriend and Harry from Jrock House eventually turned her away at some point during the tour. She proceeded to have a meltdown about it online for a few years after, but hasn't said much about it in a while now.

No. 1748486

>livejournal era milk
OT but I miss this era in music and online gossip. It was the golden age of drama.

No. 1748499

Holy shit wtf? I get that few things were off limits for Myspace and Suicide Girls shoots but what kind of an adult would think of teen miscarriage as an edgy tantalizing shoot? Sounds like an idiot coming up with as crazy nonsense as she can for attention
>yes that's real blood
Kek, Hammer film colour, no smears and clean drips, minimal blood after two hours and nothing dried and brown. Sure Jan

No. 1748575

So was she a groupie of 30 Seconds To Mars too?? She says in the post they "were family" to her at a point in time. Or she’s just saying that for attention?
I mean, considering what you’ve Nonnas already shared here + knowing Jared Leto’s nature, wouldn’t be particularly outrageous…

No. 1748593

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>yes that's real blood
>yes I'm morbid
I just think it's hilarious some 32 year old woman thought taking bloody nose photos was edgy and cool.

Me too nonny. The jrock fandom was full of deranged obsessive cows too.

Having followed her since her early drama, she was notorious for being a groupie and exaggerating her connections with artists.

No. 1748597

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He took nudes of her around this time too.

No. 1748602

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Here's another time she shared this exact photo and a fun comment about how Manson took many "open vag shots" of her.

No. 1748620

KEK the way absolutely none of this shit is brag worthy but she’s still bragging is cracking me up, I love a mad cow

No. 1748666

yikes is it like a requirement for every woman to copy Dita von teese in order to stand beside him? I’m surprised KVD isn’t doing her hair like it’s the 1930s now that they’re buddies. even his assistant had the DVT look and was a burlesque dancer.

No. 1748760

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Found a photo from her "poe" photoshoot. lmao

No. 1748762

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Poe had a full mustache and curly hair. Like???

No. 1748763

The way she brags and rambles in the captions heavily reminds me of Amanda Bret.

No. 1748774

This is just Hitler in the alternate reality where he became a painter

No. 1748788

File: 1674213235238.png (62.31 KB, 666x703, deadsy.png)

She's definitely like a less cracked out Amanda in some ways. Vanessa still lives at home with her 70yo mother and works part-time jobs at Spirit Halloweens or random events. Still calls herself a model even though she all her shoots are for fun and never published anywhere. Has a really difficult time holding any kind of real job. Her drama peaked during her suicide girls groupie days and into her alcoholic years. She's a little boring now that she's sober, but she still goes around claiming to be besties with random band dudes constantly even though she's like 40 years old now. lmao

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No. 1748794

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Found more info on the Die situation on another old jrock post in the farms for those interested in a few more details.

No. 1748818

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Did some digging and couldn't find the video mentioned, but did find this post she made in 2016 talking about the whole thing.

No. 1748868

Idk what it is but something about this bitch is so grotesque and off-putting and I can’t put my finger on it. It’s like you can see the mental illness radiating from her aura. That and the huge greasy fivehead.

No. 1750200

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19 year old jazmin is now dating a 25-ish year old.

No. 1750202

Samefag, name is Brooks Ginnan

No. 1750478

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Kat is definitely the new MM cult princess. Rafael must be sweating that his meal ticket might get tired of his irrelevant untalented ass.

No. 1750624

Can't MM change the tire lol

No. 1751363

File: 1674561598743.jpg (765.39 KB, 1079x1868, Screenshot_20230124-115436.jpg)

Cow on Instagram, pedo pandering and generally just retarded looking. Has a free onlyfans. Sends orbiters after haters.

No. 1751364

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No. 1751366

File: 1674562336893.jpg (134.98 KB, 1080x802, Screenshot_20230124-121052.jpg)

double samefag for more pictures
so alternative…..

No. 1751385

>when he buys you cheap shit off aliexpress just to have sex with you

No. 1751391

tayrt, her orbiters say that she is "building her life", well, alright…

No. 1751792

She isn't really alt/goth, this nobody belongs in the OF or e-girl thread if anything.

No. 1751853

tayrt i wasn't too sure, I assumed she fit into the category of ali-express alternative

No. 1751931

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Bestgirlkatt is retarded, ugly and a cheap whore!

No. 1752220

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No. 1752223

Aliexpress is honestly good for cheap cute clothing though lol

No. 1752245

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No1curr nona, its always cheap factory smelling garbage in the end that you never keep for too long, mostly just impulsive buying. I bought a shirt from there once and it smelled like chemicals. Didn't feel like cute clothes to me when I'm being knocked out by the smell..collagechanning

No. 1752571


The hell is milky about buying fast fashion? She seems like a fuckwit bore.

No. 1752572

This is dumb and I’m glad you’re outing yourself as an idiot for buying garbage.

No. 1752585

This isn't the e-girl thread, stop posting this shit here.

No. 1752818

File: 1674753203454.jpg (446.92 KB, 1078x1915, Screenshot_20230126-190201_Ins…)

If ya want more cows here maybe we can post Astrid here. She used to be posted in instagrammers you hate, But there wasn't a new tread made after the second one. Astrid is going back to her black metal roots again if anyone here knows the milk about her.
Also someone should check on Adam the nationalist. How is he doing after the break up?

No. 1753411

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Pls she's overfilled her lips so much that it's migrating to a ring around her mouth

No. 1754588

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She's been baiting deactivation since well before the new year but this genuinely made me die of secondhand embarassment.

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No. 1755849

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No. 1755852

File: 1675011223819.jpeg (122.44 KB, 811x1080, 7786583E-C2F3-41CD-BAD1-13BD43…)

Mamie’s OF content has leaked, and besides besides her boobs and stupid lingerie poses there is this gem.

No. 1755865

i like some of her songs but her lip fillers are sooo jarring to look at. shes got a permanent monkey like pout now.

No. 1755937

File: 1675020550487.jpg (219.26 KB, 1080x876, Screenshot_YouTube.jpg)

Same, among her mostly mediocre stuff she has some good ones and I like her aesthetic, but this ain't it. This was what she started with

No. 1755998

File: 1675024187534.jpeg (173.55 KB, 689x695, A53E528B-EDED-4876-BC8E-ABAC70…)

Just type in “mamiehades onlyfans leak” into google image search.
Amusing to think someone who begs for money every month is going to be able to hire a lawyer with the competency to track whoever leaks her shit and successfully sue them.

No. 1756000

How tf is she disabled?

No. 1756019

wow, never knew she was actually kind of cute under the stupid looking makeup, she really ruined her face.

I don't know what it is about this particular cow, but it always smells like a selfpost to me when she pops up even though I know it likely isn't always the case. She just gives me the biggest "anything for attention" vibes.

No. 1756109

>Employer followed Alt-Right accounts

I have to ask how she'd know that but then again, I thought it was common practice to not follow your coworkers and/or employer on social media but that's just me i guess.

No. 1756193

She has some chronic pain disorder. She typically uses it for pity points, since it’s the only time she brings it up.

She is the queen of needing attention. She posts about how bad 90% of her life supposedly is and throws a tantrum at every corner.

No. 1756201

'i contacted the site i had photos leaked to' is it just me, or does that make it sound like she had photos intentionally leaked? either that or miss girl is bad at grammar kek it wouldn't surprise me if she had pics leaked for attention. especially unsurprising with how crusty and ugly she looks. from the leaked pics i've seen, it's all very low-effort, much like jude bishop. not sure why she's making a big deal of them being leaked. cry about it? kek

ah yes, much inspired, not low-effort at all. she thinks this is… worth money? kek she has an average/pudgy body, is either bare-faced which needs a jumpscare warning or has her shaky-handed sharpie elvira wanna-be makeup on.

as a fellow bisexual disabled person… we don't claim her kek this is not the way to go about it if you want to make money. she needs to quit complaining on the internet, get off her lazy ass, and get a full-time job like the rest of us. sage for blogposting but god damn, she's such an annoying cow

No. 1756235

Yo that is not a five head, that is like a fourteen head

No. 1756271

Don’t forget Mamie also has said that a person can only wear a nose ring with a chain if they claim Romani descent, otherwise it’s racist. I guess fuck all other cultures that do that…

No. 1756387

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Raven apparently has a TikTok these days & it's her most active platform. But I don't use that app & the link on her YouTube is broken. Still with Josh, living in a garage with 10 (TEN!!) cats. She's a registered foster cat mom in the state of Michigan, bc of course she is. Both unemployed, Josh is selling plasma for money. So it's safe to assume the 25 Christmas gifts did not happen this year. Most of her YouTube is contacts, makeup & wig reviews now, but she still rambles about personal shit through most of them. No idea how she affords so much shit when she claims she's never been this broke (she has codes for the contacts, so she seems like she's sponsored? But she has hardly any viewers anymore). She's started taking Zoloft for depression (started self harming again), & wishes she'd taken it sooner, claims it might've helped her have a better relationship with her parents. She keeps falling & injuring herself, in the most recent YouTube video (Dec 30) she seems like she might be on something. Very sluggish & out of it.

Was debating posting some videos to back up these claims, but most of the more interesting/related ones are already around a year old. Have a picture from her most recent video instead!

No. 1756395

Whoops, still forgot to mention that the only reason she's not trying to kill herself is the cat that's more than a cat. So seems like her & Josh are doing well.

No. 1756626

What her tiktok handle

No. 1756661

It used to be arachne.araneae but that's defunct now. I've been searching but it's hard without an account.
Public Instagram is a.dream.undone & she uses it frequently
Facebook is facebook.com/Icon.of.pale.bone

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No. 1762810

File: 1675757357410.jpeg (453.2 KB, 1123x2077, 6C23BEA0-4005-43A0-8C0B-91E626…)

Stumbled upon IBF commenting under Llewelyn’s post about his painting for Manson as his birthday gift. I thought maybe she just likes the artistry but…..

No. 1762816

File: 1675757539947.jpeg (80.52 KB, 1125x894, A39591C7-75D9-486C-B5B8-1F5BDA…)

……it seems that Freya is still a fan of MM, the alleged rapist and nonce.

No. 1762860

Omg thank you!! Her gross recipes tagged as healthy, annoying Josh & the cats, showing off crusty makeup, gross out resin crafts, cheap goth tat, cashapp in the description. Raven truly keeps on cowing through it all

No. 1763052

Jazmin did an acoustic of some songs and she actually sounds better than the tryhard edgy way she originally did the songs. She looks like a mouldy cat lady while doing so though lol

No. 1763391

File: 1675816410688.jpg (817.87 KB, 1274x1920, 23-02-05-19-32-55-972_deco.jpg)

Well,this comment did not stay up for long.
(picture from Gwens Instagram last week)
Coalcandy's girlfriend Gwen Refurin (not sure about her name) is definitely a mini-me of Adora Batbrat now.
It's a bit creepy if he used to have a thing with A.B.

Not sure if this is gossip, but it is news worthy. If not, I'm sorry.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1763392

for future reference, don't put things in the subject line.

No. 1763395

Thank you for helping out.

No. 1763410

She needs to learn breath control. Her only getting a record deal because of her musician mom really shows in not just her MySpace tier songs but her beginner singing

No. 1763435

Don't cowtip anon, cowtipping is when you post or tag a cow to provoke them and screenshot it.
You'll get a ban for the above but you're right that her makeup looks like adora's, particularly the inner eye lines.

No. 1763724

cowtipping involves announcing that you're the one commenting. even if you assume anon did, it's not cowtipping.

No. 1763728

OPs icon matches the commenters. Nothing to assume.

No. 1764819

Any new Jake and Kaya and skat thread? Thanks

No. 1764834

File: 1675999402646.png (2.07 MB, 1170x2532, E074F1D0-383A-4307-8D97-F00039…)

Can’t be assed to do her job of making content, will make questionable spending decisions.

No. 1764845

>mouldy cat lady
The frizzy grey dyed hair and ratty boa really sell the aesthetic and not in a cute way

No. 1765968

File: 1676148883290.jpg (182.42 KB, 1080x498, Screenshot_20230211_215016_Twi…)

She's too broke now to have proper food? Is she trying to get pitty from people?

No. 1766001

Eh she's a parent of two young children, that sounds like all you can cram in sometimes while chasing after them

No. 1766032

>I'm mostly living on toast and cereal
Well, that explains a lot

No. 1766044

Yeah, especially one having special needs

No. 1766073

wait one of her kids is special needs?

No. 1766075

File: 1676160680783.jpg (798.08 KB, 1080x2019, Screenshot_20230211_184927_Ins…)

Jazmin's friend is detransitioning after being on hormones as a teen. Better late than never I guess but the amount of lasting damage.

No. 1766313

Yeah, her first kid Severine has a genetic microdeletion. Completely random chance, it's really sad. She said at one point she's hitting all her milestones but it does sound like she needs a ton of extra attention. No wonder all IBF has time for is cereal and toast.

No. 1766416

Sage for slight derail but this is just sad. Hope he can have some type of surgeries to remove what the hormones did (physically at least). Can't help but feel like he was peer pressured into it, if you're artsy you must be some type of member of the lgbt alphabet or else it doesn't count.

No. 1766465

I totally had a brainfart and didn’t look close enough so I thought this tweed was from Jake and anons trying to say Kat has two kids and the one with disability is Jake

No. 1766585

Maybe. The people he hangs out with, jazmin and parmaham, are genderspecial too and when I first came across him he wasn't identifying as a troon. Or maybe he did but wasn't open about it. Either way yeah it's sad and I hope he can recover.

No. 1766663

I cant feel bad for a misogynist genderspecial male that types shit like ''femenine cunt''. You play stupid games, you win stupid prices. Next time don't pretend that you grasp even the tiniest bit of what womanhood is. Hope his little mantits remind him of that every single day. I have no sympathy for any detransitioner that doesn't go publicly GC, specially the male ones. He can bleach his hair in hell.

No. 1766997

Completely agree, anon. Maybe I'm just sick & jaded from troon nonsense, but I really have no sympathy for the tims unless they were robbed of any choice of their own & transed as children. But even then, once they start going crazy trying to push & promote it to other/younger kids, that quickly vanishes (Jazz Jennings is a good example of that)

No. 1767028

Tinfoil but I don't think they're friends anymore. Most of their photos together on their IGs have been deleted and I haven't seen parma ham or Jazmin in his IG stories for ages

No. 1767273

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Serving cunt is just an expression. But I agree, while I guess it's sad he might've been pressured as a child, he'd better not be supportive of troons after this.
>litle man tits


Oh? I know Salvia's original account got deleted so his pics are missing. Didn't know jazmin deleted hers. I checked and their latest picture in her feed right now was in 2021. Wonder what happened, the detransition or just grew apart. With parma I think salvia broke up with him.

No. 1767447

Jazmin still seems to follow Salvia though

No. 1767807

Since we'be been talking about IBF's choice of baby names lately, I was just watching the movie Belle de Jour and the main character is a woman called Séverine who loves her husband but doesn't want to have sex with him, I found it very interesting because we know IBF said a lot of times that she loves mr owl (and has loved other bfs) but doesn't like sex, she'd do it for reproducting but it's not very fond of it. That's a bit more credible name origin than the previous theory that it was because Severus Snape.

No. 1767898

I mean she did a cringe video where she screamed in a field when Alan Rickman died iirc, she could've been inspired by either.

No. 1767915

I wrote a long as fuck paragraph with my sperging about this but I think it can be boiled down to: of course she doesn't like sex, she's insecure about her appearance and married those two guys. I support the Snape narrative.

No. 1768435

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Corny ass mf’ers. I guess KVD and Rafael are committed to the MM cult. Even after this new suit was filed against him:


No. 1768438

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I guess Raf is wearing platforms tonight?

No. 1768464

File: 1676445970129.jpeg (1.63 MB, 3465x3465, 1EF90EE0-E264-4ED4-92AD-066087…)

Found very recent unphotoshopped photo of Victoria. I don’t understand why she’s photoshopping so much, she’s not ugly at all

No. 1768471

All I can hear is her breathing in and out

No. 1768484

I get what you mean, but this is an actual issue she talked at lenght about and for years, it's important to her, it wouldn't be a reach if she watched the movie because she liked the theme and chose the name from there. As it could be harry potter too, I guess. whatever

I see this lindsay yu is part of the KVDMM clique, she's always there, always commenting on stuff from them, has posted pics on her profile supporting MM… Who is she? any milk on her?

wtf? she's actually pretty. I guess that she is obssessed with the extreme plastic surgery/fillers look but doesn't have the money to actually get shit done. Clearly she wanted to be half her size and weight so she must see herself as if she was Luna Slater

No. 1768527

Victoria used to be skinnier, she's put weight on and she's on a bunch of different diets now. A couple of weeks ago she was doing some water fast.

No. 1768589

Lindsay Usich is Manson's most recent wife. From what I can remember from the Manson threads, she's a photographer and was an on and off girlfriend for ages now. Her behavior is very much so like Skid of the Jonny Craig thread, sort of a psychotic semi secret girlfriend who would lash out at fans and groupies orbiting Manson. He finally married her in more recent years I guess. You can probably still find a lot of the information in the old MM threads here on the farms.

No. 1768652

Ayrt and yeah, I mean, one thing doesn't exclude the other, the movie could have had some subconscious (or not that subconscious) influence on her.

Is it the curse of the B-C-D…Z list alt woman to be a pickme and date/marry hideous men? I know that for many girls it's almost inevitable to suffer at some point some sort of nlogism because any alternative scene that isn't female-only is sexist as hell and mixed friend groups have the worst dynamics when it comes to women interacting with other women. Not that pickme and nlog are the same but you know what I mean, these women date trash and are proud of it.

No. 1769309

Same with Kim Petras. He was trooned as a child and in his interviews, it was so obvious his parents pushed him into it when he exhibited interest in "girls" things. But my sympathy only runs so far for him because he's a grown man in his 30s now pushing the ideology and the music… It comes off a bit misogynistic, the themes and the expectation that he should be seen as some "woman" sex symbol.

No. 1769405

It's all incredibly misogynistic. Kim quite literally just won a grammy for a song about misogyny.

No. 1769437

OT but that song makes me vomit, two ugly troons gloating about misogyny and male degeneracy. Not to mention musically it’s a god awful droning mess. I’m annoyed with myself for liking Sam Smith when he was just a gay R&B crooner.

No. 1769683

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And now he's a they/them, and recently been wearing ugly bdsm inspired outfits for media attention. Such outfits can look really cool but these really don't, and they look chafing kek. All the people yass kweening posts about it act like they're so cutting edge for liking him now and everyone else is a karen, but an eyesore is an eyesore.

No. 1770004

Wtf did I just see

No. 1770469

File: 1676663966441.jpeg (291.96 KB, 1122x2004, AC9FB34A-BF41-4DBD-8233-35DB0F…)

MM isn’t the only nonce that Kat von D has been supporting. She can’t say that: oh, don’t fall into the trap of cancel culture when you don’t know the situation.
Bitch, Mr. Kitty admitted to the accusation.


No. 1770651

Obviously, she agrees with their ideas and positions. That MM's exes are just exaggerating bdsm and that there's nothing wrong in an adult dating a "young woman". Remember she's an alt-right conservative now, and these people are heavily biased towards men in any situation of sexual abuse. Go to any "trad" anything thread and it's pretty clear that it's part of their culture.

No. 1770655

Ok,so it was a teenage boy, not a teenage girl, my bad. But conservatives also tend to believe teenagers can consent

No. 1773916

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Reeree is back on IG after a 3 year hiatus.

No. 1774013

>>1767807 Oh dear! I assumed the name came from the song Severina by The Mission.

No. 1774032

Oh dann i missed her. I predict she will delete it again in a month though.

No. 1774054

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cp bump don’t scroll

No. 1774098

File: 1677063309470.jpg (235.06 KB, 1080x1867, Screenshot_20230222-125330_Fac…)

She also lurks here for years now.

No. 1774125

I wonder what happened to her, I remember she had a twitter at one point and talking about a new job(?)

No. 1774177

Yes, I believe she became a nurse or something similar. I could be wrong but I swear that’s what I remember seeing.

No. 1774211

File: 1677077919003.jpeg (226.71 KB, 828x1364, 966ACDC2-A37D-4079-9FE9-631D2C…)

She’s doing a q&a right now

No. 1774212

How is this screenshot supposed to proof her lurking? Am I missing something?

No. 1774305

I meant she's on facebook, Not lurking here.

No. 1774340

Not the anon you’re responding to, but that’s what you said and implied. You also didn’t sage which would give the impression that it’s milk but you didn’t elaborate. Maybe you don’t know what “lurk” means?

Anyway, I’m happy for her. It’s nice to see one of these “cows” make something of themselves in the real world…especially when they have children to take care of. I personally never considered her a cow at all. Just seemed like anons were mostly angry that she kind of clung on to the goth tag for content when she was really just a metalhead. I don’t recall anything actually milky happening with her.

No. 1774510

Ive been following her on her private account @igotamultipass for a few months now, she mentioned going to court for an abusive relationship, so I wonder if this was @alterd_mind, the father of her child and her ex who used to take all her pictures, or someone else she dated in between breaking up with him and now.

No. 1774522

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100% someone else. She also responded to a question about making an OF which seemed to imply this rancid ex. I highly doubt she would talk about Mr. Phillips in such a positive light if it were him she was talking about.

No. 1774524

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No. 1775223

File: 1677176204286.jpeg (403.04 KB, 1124x2003, 66DD7339-A49F-4112-A996-0E8C09…)

This is weird af, doesn’t adora have the same or similar tattoos?

No. 1775227

Yeah, Adora also has crosses (just more basic design)… synthia slowly turning into her mum

No. 1775751

The OP has been posting this on Reddit.
Thought it would be good to be known here.

No. 1775855

Yess give us nothing hunty!

You need to attach an image or something, OP of what? Posting what?

No. 1776445

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No. 1776605

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No. 1776640

File: 1677352470023.gif (3.36 MB, 498x331, not-waynes-world.gif)

Oh, we'll listen..

No. 1777760

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There was discussion itt of jazmin and salvia not being friends anymore, I guess they still are and just not as close as before. They both look awful kek, and because of jazmin's overfilling she looks like she's eating a lemon

No. 1777779

if you see pics of jazmin bbefore the fillers and/or surgeies, she looked exactly like her dad (ginger wildheart), like a white uk person, she's looking more and more asian, which I think it's to resemble her asian mother, they look alike now, but it used not to be the case, so I think it's intentional.

No. 1777839

Why is this girl a cow tho? The ugly surgeries and the nepobaby-ism?

No. 1779401

File: 1677615380362.jpg (64.11 KB, 480x270, hqdefault.jpg)

Does Jade the Libra have any milk on her.
I've started watching her content for cleaning and enjoy seeing someone who is alt/goth in that niche on youtube.

No. 1779406

I've never heard anything milky about her, she's super popular for decor hunting during Halloween and was in some advertising at Spirit Halloween. I think she keeps her nose clean, I've only ever seen some minor speculation that she's anachan but nothing major.

No. 1779608

>>keeps her nose clean

what a weird thing to say out of nowhere! don't even know who this is, but now I'm almost sure she does coke

No. 1779858

Are you ESL, anon? No judgement if so, but to "keep your nose clean" is a common idiom in English which essentially means to stay out of trouble.

No. 1780074

Good to know, rather not waste my time giving views to a pos. (the alt community or the one on youtube seems to be filled with them)

No. 1780674

Nothing milky really but her whole face is full of injectables and she is an anachan. Her old tumble was full of her transformation to what she is now. I am wondering if she still an anachan now that she’s pregnant and due to pop soon

No. 1781324

yes! thank you for teaching me, I didn't know that

No. 1781338

File: 1677813670676.jpg (600.38 KB, 1080x2019, Wut.jpg)

>she looks like she's eating a lemon
Looking more like she's about to throw up

No. 1781498

When doesn't she look like that?

No. 1782908

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Has anyone ever talked about this cow? I only know her because she models for forest inks clothing and I happened upon her in my Twitter recommended. Anyways seems her boyfriend and her have just broken up and she’s been all over Twitter and the gram thirst trapping and subtweeting about needing a boyfriend and being depressed. She has a bunch of kids. Her body is hilarious. Picrel. Just curious if anybody else has observed her milk. Unsaged for possible milk. Her @ is vampxgore.

Also about jade i do not have milk but after watching a few of her videos randomly after classes she seems like she’s a hoarder or has serious depression issues, even in the depths of my own emotions I’ve never let my home get to the quality of hers. Disgusting.

No. 1783094

No. 1784099

I used to be mutuals with her on instagram and she used to just post somewhat 'cute' outfits and just general goth stuff, but then she did a 180 and just started posting shit like that so she lost some followers and is probably upset

No. 1784103

She has kids by multiple men so she seems to be fairly good at relationships
Her latest saga she keeps posting things like “someone take me out” or like a scrote will ask her anonymously if she would like be interested in going out with them and she’s like “my dms are open” it really reads as desperate, to be fair I think women can be fat and still attractive but she’s got a real hatchet face kek

No. 1784693

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I would not let Mamie touch hair if she thinks this one tone dried out mess is a success.

No. 1784972

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Dorian proves yet again to be a lurker. Posted this comment in r/ofherbsandaltars and later posted a rant about the same thing on instagram. People on Reddit found old blogs of Dorian and people he has romanticized the fuck out of in his story times (Ash/James).

No. 1784979

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No. 1784981

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No. 1785177

The first paragraph is pretty good, then the second paragraph is self indulgent teenage whining. Much like all of Dorian's writing, ig.

No. 1785269

Did anyone catch the URL to the blogs before the reddit user deleted everything? I am intrigued

No. 1785397

This sounds so retarded. She’s a grown arse woman, and far not the most intellectually challenged one, and here she is acting all immature with the whole morally superior edgelord spiel
> how would you fucking feel if someone read and discussed your baby sister’s diary online?
Well, if you don’t want people to go through your "underwear" or "your baby sister’s diary" then don’t publish it online ffs. Especially on platforms that are intended for people’s interaction and forum-like discussions. If you want to keep something private, then just keep it to yourself, like how hard can it get??

You can’t have cake and eat it too, Dorian, since you’re lurking here. You chose to be in the public eye as your job instead of having a regular, more private one. This is just part of the gig, take it or leave it.

You had no issue hardcore capitalising off of Ash’s "underwear", both in video and written format, and still are gaining a regular income from it now, day in and day out. Even though, by your own word, he "never put himself out there" and "values privacy the most".
And somehow now, the nasty mean people on the internet – your own followers – are the ones at fault because they google his 'name', and all this shit that you have exposed comes up, and they are able to lurk? The people are the ones invading his and your other friends’ privacy by reading something that is already out there, not the one who plasters their shit all over the web and capitalises off of it? REALLY? Kek, check your own morals.

No. 1785410

No. 1785422

Dorian sure is crazy and romanticizes stuff but I agree with her in this one, it's true.
BUT! Right after he sounds like a legit lunatic in this one! >>1784979
This is fucking bonkers! just delete the posts if you don't want people to read them, for fucks sake!!! "If I delete my diaries, huge projects will be canceled!" BITCH POUH-LEASE! "Consensual reading"!!! For real, this is pure delusional madness.

100% this, thank you for speaking what I could barely put into words because of how shocked I was at this

No. 1785562

I can't imagine how embarrassing it would be for my high school posts to become publicly attached to my name, but that's when you immediately private the account or archive and delete it to prevent anyone else from seeing it (unless they want to dig deep which you just can't stop but don't bring attention to it or everyone will know about it). Then just start a new personal account under a username people don't know (ideally some generic Goth shit that'll pass under the radar).
Also sorry if this was mentioned before but what kind of TIF is Dorian? She's clearly willing to lurk here and doesn't even look fakeboi lite. I figure some form of anorexia related issues but I don't know her history nor her gendie claims well enough to know if it's anorexia plus misogyny or a fear of sex

No. 1786488

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Wow, so fascinating a moid who raped and murdered his little sister. When is she going to drop the edgy obsession with the literal scum of this planet?

No. 1786626

I remember this story, the mother seems like a massive cow herself and still defends her deranged little moidlet. Boymoms stay losing.

No. 1786695

File: 1678552617452.jpg (54.33 KB, 720x963, FB_IMG_1678552511253.jpg)

Kat Von D Birthday party

No. 1786697

File: 1678552987512.jpg (8.59 KB, 300x300, 31h5l5GAUKL._SY300_.jpg)

Who wore it better

No. 1786821

So… are they..??

No. 1787115

Did he lose weight?

No. 1787160

kek at Kat trying to be the goth kim kardashian

No. 1787188

Engaging in intimate intercourse with eachother? Yeah, possibly

No. 1787190

Just thinking about this slug-like guy's hand on my side makes me sick

No. 1787336

I can’t believe i used to have such a crush on him. I always thought his appearance and branding was for show but he’s actually perverted and insane.

No. 1787687

File: 1678671162628.jpeg (51.46 KB, 640x628, DA5F8EB2-6717-4C84-801F-5C5835…)

As embarrassing as it is I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one. I always had a thing for guys with horse faces

No. 1787959

Same here nonna don't feel bad.at first I really thought this was another amber vs Jhonny since one of the lawsuits dropped but too much conflicting

No. 1787972

My crush was Twiggy Ramirez, not much fucking better.

No. 1788215

Vanessa just did an interview about the Manson case.

No. 1788229

File: 1678769409340.png (671.93 KB, 690x1071, 23894759.png)

are you the yoshiki posting anon by any chance?

she was bragging about her other groupie behavior all over fb recently again too.

No. 1788281

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cp on the mtf thread don't scroll

No. 1788457

I'm honestly still not sure what to think about this tbh anon. After the latest turn of events with Ashley Smithline recanting against her previous accusation, it's really making me start to wonder.

No. 1788827

Do you not realize that when mentally ill women get their egos bruised by anyone they go on full blown years long disingenuous smear campaigns to ruin their lives?
Evan has BPD. Amber has BPD. Same with every other ego driven batshit insane girl in the goth scene. Figure it out(sage your shit)

No. 1788828

Do you not realize that when mentally ill women get their egos bruised by anyone they go on full blown years long disingenuous smear campaigns to ruin their lives?
Evan has BPD. Amber has BPD. Same with every other ego driven batshit insane girl in the goth scene. Figure it out(sage your shit)

No. 1788830

Do you not realize that when mentally ill women get their egos bruised by anyone they go on full blown years long disingenuous smear campaigns to ruin their lives?
Evan has BPD. Amber has BPD. Same with every other ego driven batshit insane girl in the goth scene. Figure it out

No. 1788841

They probably saw that text evidence about wanting to set you on fire, drown you and rape you is still not enough "proof" for the people who live in rich men's assholes

No. 1788896

At the end of the day Manson still was late 30s married man when he met barely legal 18yo Evan. He also likened their relationship to the pedo novel "lolita" with heart-shaped glasses? I don't understand how anyone still guns for this guy when he's obviously a predator of some kind, proof of physical abuse or not. Normal 36 year old people don't date barely legal teens.

No. 1788899

also obvious scrote

No. 1788905

Stop diagnosing every woman that does something you deem crazy with BPD, tiktard.

No. 1788912

oops this was directed at the spamscrote

No. 1789116

You're not alone. At the time i was into the "breaking standards" thing. He was unusual, he did unsusual music (or so i thought at least), wasn't afraid to tap into controversial topics like drugs, men wearing makeup, etc. I didn't see how much of a shithead he really was.

No. 1789151

AYRT, she was actually 19 but I do get and understand the discomfort, it was a huge age gap and I don't approve of it but she was not a minor, that's just the reality.
He's scuzzy for dating women half his age and that will always be unsettling to me but by the law, it's not a crime.

That aside, I'm still taking my time looking into this so I'm not on anyone's side at this time and want to continue looking more into the case.

No. 1789306

She was 18 when they met and 19 when they went public with the relationship. It doesn't matter that it wasn't illegal, he's obviously preying upon a literal teenage girl. It's straight up onision logic tbh. His use of lolita imagery for their relationship also strongly shows how he viewed her, a "legal" child.

No. 1789332


No. 1789435

Yeah a 36 year old man roleplaying a pedophilic relationship (the main character in lolita was only 12 year old) with his 19 year old girlfriend is definitely a totally not creepy or predatory thing to do. Scrote logic.

No. 1789461


No. 1789534

I bet you defend shit like ddlg too don't you

No. 1789542

Scrotes gonna scrote.

No. 1789668

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I bet you’re even okay with women calling their boyfriends daddy in bed lol that’s literally incest sweaty(sage your shit)

No. 1789830

Youtube was trying to make me watch this video for like fucking weeks. I was really confused as to why there was a following for this band at all because the frontwoman had like zero charisma, but I was like 'maybe the live shows are better'. Now I know.

My theory is that it was consensual, if creepy, at the time. 19-year-old girls are impressionable and BDSM is edgy. Manson at 30 was - what, 1999? so was also at his peak celebrity (looks as well imo). Most of the 'abuse' she describes sounded like lifestyle BDSM activities that she might've committed to and then had regrets about later. And sure, Manson's a creep for dating a teenager, but it also kind of feels like ERW is doing this for clout because she no longer has a career. Her accusations are never going to result in a court case or legal consequences for Manson, but they do keep people discussing her.

No. 1789945

Being sexually assaulted on the set of a music video where there is no intimacy coordinator present is not what a BDSM lifestyle is about.

No. 1790081

She probably had to sign a contract to be in that video half-naked how could she possibly raped on camera
Also regardless of whether he is a rapist or not he's still a degen for being into BDSM in the first place. The "BDSM lifestyle" shouldn't be thing, even if it's consensual anyone who gets off on seeing their partner in pain should be locked up

No. 1790083

NTA, and I feel like it's hard to say if she was or wasn't. Even Vanessa, who is on Manson's side, said she wasn't there for the actual sex scene and that everyone was drunk or on drugs.

No. 1790238

No longer has a career? Are you delusional? Why do MM supporters keep saying that?

No. 1790323

That’s some weird fucking logic, dog.

No. 1792552

Can't believe we're still in the Christmas edition thread

No. 1793245

Does anyone know what's the real tea between these Louisemarie666 and Eleshaalicethorn? Who copied who and what's the thing?


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