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Last time on the "Yep, same shit as always…" Edition…
>Jared returned Heidi's games, but instead of dropping them off he decided to splurge to mail them (so much for not having money anymore)>Jared was really salty about it on stream afterwards, whining about having had to "spend money to be left alone".>Jared continued the tragedy of his horrible, horrible fashion choices. So many horrendous looks.>Jared used the excuse of "an instagram glitch" to whine about the drama some more.>Jared and Holly got trolled hard with concerns about "wife".>Heidi did witch-themed crafts for Halloween on her store, simps declared "SHE COPIED HOLLY", who owns every patent and copyright on witches ever.>Jared fished for sympathy again talking about how he feels no one likes him.>Holly fished for sympathy asking why people still follow her, complaining about lost followers and lost subscribers.>Holly also published mean DMs for more sympathy-fishing (why even have them open when you're controversial??)>Simps kept on simping, simps kept "But heeeeeeidiiii"ing, world went 'round>SadOldMagician opened his yapper a bit too wide and started saying Ross was just as bad as Heidi. Oop.Quick Synopsis of PigeonGate:
>Jared "the Wormdick" Knabenbauer was a semi prominent personality on the gaming side of youtube. He was involved in many communities such as NormalBoots, Game Grumps and Dice Camera Action as a member of the D&D campaign "Waffle Crew". >In May 2019 he released a tweet saying he and his wife were separating and to give them space…except he hadn't told his wife and had her blocked the entire time.>His then wife Heidi O'Ferrall proceeded to reveal to the public he had been gaslighting and abusing her for years, and in the twist no one saw coming, was cheating on her with his DCA co-star, previous cosplay juggernaut Holly Conrad.>It was revealed through internet sleuthing she had also been cheating on her husband Ross O'Donovan of Game Grumps fame before their divorce. Although it was at first amicable, the joint tweet discussing their separation has since been deleted and Ross refuses to hardly utter her name. >Holly checked herself into a mental hospital from being cancelled too hard>Fans came out of the woodwork revealing Jared to be a sexpest who had been soliciting nudes for years, some of which were underage.>Holly came back to throw herself to the wolves by trying to equate her suffering at being cancelled as to Etikas suicide (didn't work, she got dragged harder). Jared went into hiding to try to salvage his image. >Jared released a video, "You've Been Lied To", to youtube detailing the "true events" and successfully manipulated his way back into his fans good graces. >Heidi spoke her truth on a regular basis and stuck to her guns, and Holly tried to mental gymnastics her way into everyone loving her again.>Jared and Holly moved in together and continue to this day to baww about Heidi being an evil witch and being cancelled including releasing a shirt saying ~CANCELLED~For More On Holly Conrad's Dubious Past:
>A History of Holly: >>838840 (Source: PULL) Links to the Clowns Involved in this Circus:
>Jared Knabenbauer/ProJared:https://twitter.com/projaredhttps://www.youtube.com/user/DMJaredhttps://www.instagram.com/projaredgram/
>Heidi O'Ferrall/AtelierHeidi:https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidihttps://www.youtube.com/user/AtelierHeidihttps://www.instagram.com/atelierheidi/http://www.atelierheidi.com/
>Holly Conrad/Commander Holly:https://www.instagram.com/commanderholly/https://twitter.com/HollyConradhttps://www.youtube.com/user/CommanderHollyRoss O’Donovan
Do Not Bother Ross O’Donovan
>Game Grump and animator You May Support and Subscribe at:
>Ross O'Donovan/RubberNinja:https://twitter.com/RubberNinjahttps://www.youtube.com/user/RubberNinjahttps://www.instagram.com/rubberninja/Image Credit:
>>1038655Thread Credit:
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>Subjects have to be 16+ to be discussed on lolcow. Do not include Holly's 15 year old friend’s face or social media posts here. >This is also a reminder that cowtipping is also against the rules, do not contact the girl or her parents because of her relation to Holly.>Keep whiteknight posting to when they actually spill milk. No. 1079089
>>1079086I know, I am ashamed of my goof up.
For the thread's sake, and next thread starter, remember to grab this!
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I mean, doesn’t IG do the same as FB, showing you more of what you’d like to see based on what you’ve looked at? Maybe he needs to stop being horny on main, lol.
No. 1079336
>>1079332I noticed that as well. He really seems to have a thing for redheads that look similar to Heidi, doesn’t he?
>>1079315Yeah, it’s amazing to me that so many people still do watch his videos. I don’t want to be watching content from a sexpest.
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Still looks like a narcissistic sexpest to me.(nitpick)
No. 1079774
>>1079722ew
That haircut is absolutely horrendous, it's showing way too much skin on the right side, like there's a serious indent there and his hair just is gone. The eyebrow muscles look outlined like some cartoon character, and his goatee is more like a donut or a coffee ring staining his face than facial hair. He looks umkempt with the fuzzy hair all over the right side of his neck, like a rotting fruit, and his skin has this yellowish sheen to it that makes him look jaudiced.
>"I worked with my stylist to give it more volume"yeah, good luck with that haircut when you're balding, Jared
(and why did he tag this shit "seattle")
No. 1079948
>>1079632I think it’s the opposite. If he wanted to wash his hands if his oversexed image he could simply not bring these subjects up, but he can’t help himself. He wants to talk about nudes and porn and sexy cosplayers but he knows that he can’t do so as openly as before without getting backlash, so he does it in a roundabout way.
>hehe guys don’t send nudes to my business account heheMost YTers/streamers/influencers don’t talk about nudes at all, especially if they have even a hint of an underage audience. They avoid the topic as much as possible and the decent ones probably just block and ignore sexual DMs. Jared on the other hand really likes talking to his audience about being horny and getting nudes and it’s probably killing him that he can’t be as blatant about it as before.
No. 1080042
>>1079948Agreed. He continuously makes reference to his fans being horny and offhand comments about sliding into DMs that make it sound like he's missing his SinJared days. They could easily read as an invitation to some people. It's like a druggie joking about doing a hit of something out of nowhere… unless, ya know, you want to wink wink.
He's claimed issues with sexual addiction in the past so he could be getting back into his old groove. Or, at the very least, not saying no to nudes. Him divorced, who would care that much unless minors were involved (besides Hoelly)? He has to have learned to be careful about age.
Speculation of course. He could be genuinely joking but old habits die hard. like
>>1079319 let's pretend recommendeds are totally random. Seriously, why bring attention to it?
No. 1080059
>>1080042Just as an aside:
>He continuously makes reference to his fans being hornyLiterally everyone who is on Twitch and Twitter says this, it's currently memeculture so surprisingly it's not that deep. Really, watch any streamer who plays games that aren't fortnite and shit and you'll hear "horny" 'horny jail' etc, especially by chat depending on game content (for example Yakuza currently is a hot topic.)
>>1079319I tried this with a new account, fresh connection and different device even through a VPN, and it shows me what's "hot/viral" and most are women and dogs/dumb viral shit pushing "reels" or whatever. I searched up neither and have no followers/following on that account.
I had a friend share a post of something off their timeline, a cosplayer, and clicked on it, didn't interact with it (other than view) and bam..e-thots everywhere after refreshing the page. So if he's EVER looked at Heidi's stuff in the past the algorithm already tied this kinda stuff to him, simply because "cosplay" and "aesthetics" these days tend to be this kind of stuff. So it doesn't 100% mean he specifically searched it up, it could be residual shit. If you use Twitter or FB you should know it can immediately toss things at you that you never even looked at before simply because you came across it at one point in time and that's only if Ads slip through.
>>1079807Depending on thread though, people find it nitpicky/annoying and not really milk when you have to twist something that isn't negative into a negative.
No. 1080153
>>1080147"we're just here to laugh at them"
>post that laughs at Heidi"But she's a queen and awesome, not to be laughed at! Her clothes that look like a child's pajamas are honestly really cool looking and perfect"
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The shorter hair brings way more attention to his fucked up hair line. Why did he think this looks good?
No. 1080230
>>1080201Look at how he dresses.
He's just naturally tacky.
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Idk if this was posted. "I have never shared anything they didn't want shared"
No. 1080336
>>1080313My mistake.
It's still pretty weird sadold jokes about Ross being the
abusive one. Didn't Ross in the past say that he was drawn to controlling women?
No. 1080347
>>1080294so he’s admitted that he had the ok from hoelly and wormdick to start shitting on ross and saying him and an “unfixable abuser” deserve eachother despite him saying he didn’t want to be dragged into the shitstorm from the very beginning. so kind of them uwu
also it’s funny he’s so scared of the backlash he’ll get from stans on twitter that he can only say this shit on tumblr. they’re playing a dangerous game trying to start a smear campaign on ross knowing how many people adore him
No. 1080518
>>1080359It has to do with the way he was raised by his mother. This happens a lot to people who have fucked up relationships with a parent. Lets not call
victims weak for being manipulated.
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Again treating a friend better than his own gf for their birthday lmao.
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>>1080628Yep. Guess we can't accuse the guy of not having a type.
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>>1080630>>1080628>>1080609He could never afford to bang her though since I doubt he can afford the flight to Australia to show his dick in person, and I doubt she'll want the embarrassment of flying to Seattle to give him a pity fuck.
No. 1080890
>>1080628I can post an entire list of white girls with red hair that looks the same, I get what you're trying to say but it's like pretending many asian women don't look alike. It's not that weird.
>>1080868Probably, NONE of us know any of these people's private lives as much as we want to pretend we do. Obviously when drama starts up you don't want to start dragging others into it, why do you think jared's editor bounced and none of us knew who she was until AFTER the fact?
No. 1080945
>>1080890True, a lot of white girls with red hair look the same. But if Heidi was just so
abusive that he and Holly were terrified of her, one would think he wouldn't willingly associate with someone who could be her twin.
No. 1080946
>>1080923Considering SOM claims that he didn't know any of these people personally before the drama broke, it reads as Princess Holly Do-No-Wrong (love the nickname btw) filling him full of whatever makes her look like the
victim and everyone else the bad guy.
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Do yall think he understands that this post could be read just as much about him and Hoelly as it can Heidi? Lolll
"Dont trust how people act and what they say, the could be abusive. Not me tho"
No. 1081495
>>1081489That last line is a LOT.
> If you only know someone platonically you might not know them at all.Coming from Jared? I -
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i was scrolling through jared’s (heavily moderated) comment section from his latest video and spotted this
he’s totally only ever targeted an 18+ audience though guys!
No. 1081874
>>1081816That's heavily anecdotal though. Most of my folks in HS were amazing people I miss every day because we grew apart as we got older.
>>1081821Using more than 2 braincells you'd understand it's referring to approachability and someone you know you can have a convo with.
Maybe this will be easier for you: Have you ever talked to anyone in their 40s+ and see the SEVERE disconnect with today's world? Let alone having to teach them anything?
So it's really not a bad comment or something worth digging into.
No. 1081913
>>1080923>>1080946i genuinely don't get it, especially because he's never met ross. like i get some people didn't like the "i'm just a troll / gamer gremlin" persona that he leaned into for gg and steam train. but when you catch his twitch streams now, he's super chill and laid back, gives good artist and creative advise while streaming mario maker, vr chat or creative stuff. like ok, you don't like the version he played but unless you know him for real, dude is legit really low key and is squeaky clean drama wise.
oh wait! he has that one story of shitting himself while shopping in china town. i guess that can be his drama.
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Such a class act
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Makes me wonder if she didnt want to be as sexual as Jared pushed her to be. Reminds me of in Heidi's stream when she said that reading their messages made her realise he is just as bad to Holly that he was her. Ignoring messages for days, giving short disinterested responses, etc. Maybe that was his punishment whenever she wasn't falling over herself to pretend to be sexual to please him
No. 1082177
>>1082124Wasn’t she supposedly asexual before all of the DCA stuff anyway? I’m not surprised she’s posted something like this. It seems to me like she can only really think about getting sexually/romantically involved with someone only if it involves her characters. Ross with ME, and now Jared with DCA. Since DCA got cancelled, maybe now the magic is starting to fade.
>>1082121Yep, probably so. He’s just trying to get a reaction. Or he’s putting out a not so subtle message that his DM’s are open, lol.
No. 1082239
>>1082124This might be the start of Holly's "Jared was
abusive to me but only me because I'm special and always fall into
abusive relationships" saga.
No. 1082250
>>1082185It does line up with the SadOldCuck hinting that Ross wasn't the husbando the majority assume he was, but
>>1082239 wouldn't be surprising. Even if she does not accuse ProDick of being
abusive she may be setting herself up to look like the poor
victim who just couldn't say no and should not hold any accountability for the physical relationship between them.
Sagin' for speculatin' but if their relationship comes to an end and they announce it, it will draw a lot of attention and require the Lord's PR team to let it rest. Someone will be blamed for the relationship ending (even if it's advertised as amicable). That can't be Holly. She's so fragile, so vulnerable, such
victim…
or it could be #notthatdeep lol
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Weird how she says she was just caught in the crossfire. Like let's be real she was full on canceled, Heidi literally @ed her from the start
My theory is that Jared is super douchey about being a victim of the drama and whenever she laments her own cancellation he snaps at her that she has no idea what it really was like to be truly canceled
No. 1082350
>>1082349What i find interesting is that she said false
assumptions, not accusations
No. 1082357
>>1082350My bad anon. The way she said she lost everything makes me think her and Jared are on the rocks and she is regretting a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if this is her planting the seeds of her
victim story for when her and Jared break up like
>>1082250 speculated.
No. 1082424
>>1082349She's not wrong though surprisingly, even here on lolcow people went (and continue to go) off the rails on speculation and spinning anything into a negative. Neither are good people but think about how literally anything they do is seemingly nefarious in intention down to the way they choose to dress is somehow a plot.
The whole "cancel culture" thing does get people caught into it simply by association, look at how people tried to cancel PBG for being friends with Jared and how they tried to throw Jontron into the middle of it despite being ABSOLUTELY unrelated to everything aside at ONE POINT being a part of normalboots/Gamegrumps.
>>1082412>but there are steps you can take to ensure that you don't fall into bad relationshipsWhile I know your comment was mostly to dig at holly, it's actually not that easy to "avoid" that kind of situation depending on how deeply rooted it is, as you may easily trust someone who seems "right for you and not
abusive" but they end up the most
abusive person you've ever met.
No. 1082513
>>1082424PBG was "cancelled" because of his tweets against Heidi without knowing the full situation. "If you don't know what's going on and it's not about you, then sit down and shut up" should be common sense but it's not
Jontron's 'involvement' in the drama was people pointing out the hypocrisy of Jared's behaviour, because when Jontron got kicked out Jared was like "begone racist evil!" but when Jared's under the spotlight suddenly he's an uwu
victimand as far as the
abusive relationships, yeah it's not easy if you have not gone to a therapist and have lower emotional intelligence. And I'm not saying that a person is dumb, but not aware of the red flags and the signs that someone is
abusive, beyond what they show you. I am sure Jared is looooooovely to Holly Con-artist, but if she can't see the bouquet of red flags in front of her, as a supposed mental health guru, who has apparently been to therapy and is advertising herself as someone emotionally intelligent, then yeah, it's on her
People get into
abusive relationships because they don't enforce boundaries. That's it.
Abusive people are more likely to trespass your boundaries whereas "normal" people will respect them, but if you reward the assholes by allowing them to be near you then you end up cultivating a vicious cycle of only letting abusers near you. And I don't mean boundaries like Holly's "boundaries" meme. I mean having an understanding of yourself and understanding of human nature so that you can recognize what is
abusive and what isn't.
I'm pretty certain Holly is love bombing Jared because he's a precious hurt little bird to her. She doesn't have the upper hand in this relationship, not by a long shot, but she is coddling and spoonfeeding Jared all her mental health phrases that he loves using lately. Honestly, take any post from Jared, and edit in Holly's profile picture and username, and tell me if you can tell the difference. She makes Jared feel validated, Jared gives Holly some minimum attention. Her relationship with him will always be tainted and they will never be able to forget that.
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Yikes
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Sorry for her birds and all but her dramatics are off the rails. People were threatening to kill her birds and now they're dying and she hasn't had a career in a year because she built said "career" on being likable and fucked it up. But of course she had nothing to do with that
No. 1084214
>>1084204Holly is going through this with her beloved birds and is clearly having another (understandable) breakdown and meanwhile Jared is… replying to sexy cosplayers. Gee, what a good guy.
"I didn't have any say or choice in" yeah I didn't think you personally asked Heidi not to call you out but that doesnt mean she shouldn't have. That's like a rapist whining over going to trial over a case they didnt have any say or choice in partaking in. Like if you're gonna be the other woman you gotta own up to it when you're called out, its hard to get people to feel bad for you when you're always whining that you had to say in being called out. Like yeah I'm sure you didnt want Heidi to find out or tell anyone, but you know what would be a good way of stopping her from doing that? Not fucking her husband and being a pickme
Dont get me wrong, I do feel bad for her and her birds. Its obvious she loves them alot and I hope they all recover, but not every fucking thing that ever happens to her is a result of the drama, and even if she thinks it is she really doesn't have to post her tinfoil theories
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Guys we have to stop pointing out her manipulation, she apologized for being human. Wrap it up, everybody
No. 1084235
>>1084204>slept with a married man after the wife said no multiple times"I didn't have a say in this scandal and I was just caught in the crossfire!!"
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
No. 1084238
>>1084217Looks like lolcow is over guys, time to go.
I do feel bad for her birds, I don’t want to see animals suffer. But for her to say that her career got ruined because of a scandal that she didn’t want any part of? She is the other woman, I don’t know when she’s going to ever get it through her head that she was an active part of it all along. Sleep with a married man, and reap the consequences, that’s how that works.
No. 1084244
>>1084235If you dont want to be in a scandal dont do scandalous shit.
Jared did uwu reply to her being all sweet but idk its like… yall live together and are probably in the same room. Just go comfort her lmao. So performative
No. 1084288
>>1084244If he didn’t post it we would just laugh about how he totally ignores her. Phoney public words of affirmation are holly’s love language so, I’d say he made the right call posting that obviously coordinated shit. Knowing him, he probably drafted It between flirty IG messages with low tier thots.
>>1084262She knows nobody hurt her birds. Shes just Trying to guilt trip anyone who enjoys her histrionics by shouting “ARE YOU HAPPY??!! I bet lolcow LOVES that my birds are dying! It’s as if you all did this with your mean words!” Like, no, that does suck but maybe try not being a hysterical masochist in public for once in your life if you can’t handle the attention.
No. 1084316
>>1084238They were happy flaunting their affair during streams and at conventions and stonewalling Heidi whenever she tried to talk to Jared. They are both just mad they Heidi flipped the power dynamic they had built. They were happy with their fans worshipping them and didn't want pesky Heidi to disturb that. Imagine blocking your own wife from seeing the divorce announcement you are making about your marriage. This, after weeks of Heidi begging him to let her speak about their split since fans kept asking her why they weren't seen together in a while.
Like I said, they are just pissed they couldn't continue to stifle Heidi like they had already been doing. They thought they could since they are e-celebs and she wasn't.
No. 1084344
>>1084217>any time i'm vulnerable it's a feast for thembecause you never stop woe-is-me-ing holly and checking this place or taking solid advice we give on here. too bad she will never stop because shes a huge narc and a fiend for martyrdom. im starting to think the holly/jared defense force is literally her coming here and being
triggered by what we say since it's been confirmed over and over she reads what we say.
No. 1084347
>>1084288>She knows nobody hurt her birds.Exactly. I can't believe she even made that tweet. The levels she will go to to make herself a
victim even in coincidental unfortunate circumstances is astounding. What's happening to her pets is sad, it's also sad that she feels like she can't focus on that without spiraling into talk of the drama and blaming the internet for it all.
No. 1084408
>>1084204>>1082124Sounds like it's starting to sink in that she might have felt pressured to sleep with Jared, not absolving her of any blame, but I noticed she isn't talking about how she was "Just trying to help a
friend in need!" or propping 'poor wittle Jared' up as a martyr anymore.
…Maybe after a year with Jared the blinders are finally starting to fall off…
No. 1084415
I only feel bad for the birds themselves, and I already felt bad for them before since they’re owned by a pet hoarder. I don’t feel bad for her at all, she’s the one who got them all, it’s easy logic to figure out that lots of animals = lots of medical issues, and that only compounds when you keep them all in an enclosed space. Besides, it’s clear she’s extorting their pain for twitter sympathy points which makes me want to scream. I knew she was bad, but can you imagine whoring out your supposed-loved pet like that? Holly, this is why people don’t like you, not rumors, not “wrong assumptions” or whatever, it’s your ego and victim complex. And I hope she’s reading here so she can read this. It won’t ever sink in, though, of course. If it hasn’t sunk it for over a year, it never will.
No. 1084462
>>1084214Exactly. Heidi knew Holly socially. If I had hung around with me + my husband and a woman and her husband and she then had an affair with my husband, I would absolutely assign more blame than I would to a random girl he met online. I would absolutely put her on blast for that.
Part of that is you can kind of see how someone could compartmentalize their affair when they've never met the girlfriend and she just exists in whatever jared says. But Heidi was a real person to her and she still didn't give a shit.
Even if she TRULY believed Heidi was
abusive the answer to that would be for Jared to leave the house then break up with Heidi at a distance for his own safety.
I'm a casual reader of this thread but the fact every time I come in here she is STILL talking about this on the very platform that she claimed nearly bullied her to suicide is fucking insane.
No. 1084466
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>>1081489kek at jared regraming a monroe bergdorf post, another male that doesn't understand boundaries, especially with children on twitter. Birds of a feather.
>It emerges that the celebrity has a history of asking children in emotional distress to contact them online. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/munroe-bergdorf-the-nspcc-and-the-failure-of-the-media(derailing) No. 1084481
>>1084395Careful there anon with
>>1082124 she might start saying she was manipulated to have sex it Jared thus making it rape.
>>1084415My main issue with holly and her pigeons is that they're all wild animals and she doesn't have the proper licencing to be a rehabilitator. she owns them strictly as pets and keeps them in a small aviary for how many she keeps. Having them all in that small shack will cause more health issues since they can get each other sick.
No. 1084525
>>1084217she truly can’t stand that she can’t control what we say on here. i don’t even think it hurts her feelings, i think it just eats her up inside that she can’t get away with sending her orbiters here to harass people into silence and that we critique her and call her out on her bullshit freely. her “i’m human and mentally ill uwu” shit only works on her echo chamber and she hates that she can’t suicide bait anyone here into shutting up
i feel for her birds though, they’ve always been another way for her to feel in control of something helpless and now that they’re at risk of dying i think the reality is setting in that they’re not as well looked after as she thinks/she can’t afford to help them when they’re sick so she’s trying to place the blame on someone else despite it being her fault for hoarding a bunch of birds in a tiny kennel so that she could larp as her d&d oc
i hope they recover and that holly pulls her head out of her ass, stops blaming lolcow for all her problems and sends them somewhere where they can thrive
No. 1084574
>>1084539The thing I just can't believe is that she really blames "cancel culture" and the drama for her loss of income at this point and still doesn't connect the dots that her massive freakouts on twitter and in YT comments are what make her unemployable. She's doubling down on the thing causing her this problem because she has to tell herself she can't do anything wrong. If she's faced with being wrong, she either doubles down or starts her song and dance of "I'm sorry, will you leave me alone now?" or "my bullies and haters want me to apologize to an
abusive person but I will never say sorry for things I didn't do! I wasn't wrong!"
No. 1084580
>>1084466This doesn't seem like derailing? The fact Jared is following people like these is important. I didn't know who he was.
You guys have been inactive to all other derailing/rule breaking but turn up for this.
No. 1084592
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>>1084539this reminded me of pic related from an older thread. why doesn’t she go back to being a barista if she loved it so much?
No. 1084616
>>1084592>>1084610like, I have never met a single living soul who actually enjoyed being a barista at a coffee shop. Not a single one. It was a job they could do, it was a subpar salary, and it was customer facing, which is hell on earth and I say this as someone who has been customer support and sales on the floor.
If Holly thinks having usernames on the internet say bad things about her is horrific, wait till she gets screaming customers,
abusive jerks, flirtatious creeps or cranky boomers. To her face. Not behind a screen. Not on "hate forums". Right there, right now, in front of her. Her fragile mental health couldn't take it.
No. 1084645
>>1084626I mean to be fair..Heidi likely said the same thing as she's poly, all she did was go with his bullshit of she can't be with others.
>>1084638Based on how our government refuses to help us? I don't have to imagine it, many of us are in this exact situation lmao.
I don't know what "truth" she's talking about though.
No. 1084740
>>1084638As clueless as she is, this tweet is from last June fresh off the drama. Peep the old profile picture (back when she changed it 3 times a day lmao)
>>1084736Wonder how well those pins would have sold without her guilting people saying the money made from them would go to her poor dying birds
Something about someone who lives with another content creator and has a successful patreon complaining about money and guilting people into buying their ugly pins doesnt sit right with me, especially during lockdown part 2 electric boogaloo
No. 1084958
File: 1605651842076.jpg (209.25 KB, 1080x1195, Wat.jpg)
Oh please. If you didn't want Ross to be attacked you wouldn't have implied that he was abusive. So much for the "Ross is supportive of our relationship" lie. Why people believed Jared when he said that while providing no evidence is still beyond me.
No. 1084967
>>1084958I'm sure Jared and Holly would be offended by this, right guys? Ross totally supported them through it all and is one of Jared's closest bros, right? Can't imagine why SOM wouldn't like a fellow Striath shipper
"Jared and Holly approve of and know what I say on this blog"
No. 1084984
>>1084958He can shut the fuck up. If he didn't want Ross getting shit, he would have kept his mouth shut instead of making sly comments about how awful of a person Ross allegedly is.
>"I kinda hate the punk"Ross, the soft dude who cried a lot and slept on friend's couches after his wife left him to bang his married ex-friend, is a punk? Okay, sadold. Try to slander harder.
No. 1084990
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Imagine being the kind of asshole who literally compares who gets more death threats
"Jared got WAY more!!"
Who gives a fuck?? Also love that he claims he never harassed Heidi, despite the whole bit of him having to apologize to Jared on twitter for replying to Heidi, but okay.
No. 1085199
>>1084958SOM is such a POS. We all know why he doesn’t like Ross, it’s because he absolutely drinks up everything Holly and Pedodick tell him. Holly’s butthurt because Ross still has a thriving career after trying to steer clear of the drama, and hers just keeps on sinking into quicksand. So she pushes the “THEY WERE
ABUSIVE” storyline wherever she can to gain pity points.
>>1084990He sure forgot really quick about the time he went at Heidi over some of Jared’s shit, didn’t he? What a hypocrite. No one should get death threats, but whatever Heidi’s supposed crime was, it wasn’t nearly as bad as Jared using his influence to prey on his fans in order to get spank material from them.
No. 1085275
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>>1084204Can’t stand the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen.
She was happy being an internet public figure, she decided to fuck her colleague, another public figure, who was MARRIED to yet another, smaller, public figure. She really thought Jared blocking Heidi would make it all go under the rug uh. They’re both ridiculous. I’m glad Heidi didn’t back down one bit.
I’m tired of internet hoes who are trying to achieve some e-celebrity status then whine when people treat them as such.
Obviously people are going to look at your personal life when you career is around putting your life on display.
And where and when did people even threaten anything to her pets? lolcow anons are cunt for sure, but we barely cowtip anyone, let alone would want anything to happen to animals. And is she trying to imply that her birds dying is somehow the fault of … her haters??
Even if I were a hoelly Stan I’d find this leap kinda concerning.
No. 1085290
>>1084539she's not well liked in those circles anymore. she was notoriously difficult to work with when she was on that cosplay show and there was a lot of drama WAY back then with a lot of the other people strongly disliking her. she burnt a lot of bridges with the emmy thing too because she presented it like she did everything and was the driving force/main creative when she wasn't. then she scammed Samara's voice actress and lost credibility as being reliable. Not only that but the entire situation was so shitty on her part that she's looked down upon a lot by that community.
Honestly, I'm not sure if she actually could get a job in the field anymore. I think that's why she leans more on her Wizard's connections. She's had too many scandals in the costuming/prop making community.
Sometimes I wonder if she doesn't focus on the affair thing SO intensely to hide all the other really nasty things she's done like suicide baiting over and over again, scamming a cancer patient, claiming other people's work as her own, claiming other's accomplishments as hers and hers alone, being
toxic and purposely starting drama in the cosplay community by spreading lies to turn people against each other, presenting herself as a mental health expert when she has no actual education or experience to reflect that, and offering really dangerous mental health advice to minor. Definitely seems to work to keep the focus on constantly talking about the affair.
No. 1085434
>>1078014Are you talking about this?
https://web.archive.org/web/20190908001838/https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/12725-holly-conradcommanderholly/If so, to save you time in the future anon, you don’t need the archive link to get to the archive if you have the original link. Just paste the original url into archive.org to find the previous snapshots. If this wasn’t the link you’re looking for, please ignore my dumbass.
No. 1085480
>>1085434thank you, yes! that's it! I had tried to put the link directly once but it didn't work, I'm not great at archiving
the threads at the time were on /cgl/ and there are screenshots in the PULL thread, too
No. 1085632
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sage because OT but this is from another cow's thread and I swear to fuck I thought it was holly at first
No. 1085918
>>1085434it’s crazy how in depth this summary is. i had no idea the scammed cancer survivor being mentioned was rana mcanear, or that the jessica girl from the older threads had scammed rana alongside holly and then went MIA the same way she did after getting backlash for trying to smear heidi’s name (alongside holly lmao)
also i know it’s such a nitpick but her bizarre hatred of blonde/redheaded women is so much funnier now knowing that not only did the character she got popular cosplaying get an update with red hair, but that the weirdo she’s obsessed over for god knows how long also has a very obvious preference for redheads
No. 1086168
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Oh, I bet it gave Holly ideas all right, but not about the decor
(spoilered because it's nsfw art of striath)
No. 1086227
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>>1086178I had to delete again cause I forgot to spoiler, sorry farmhands.
No. 1086514
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I didn't see this posted yet and wanted to add it for archive purposes. We sometimes make fun of Hored for Jared not supporting Holly. Here is a time when he actually did. It's likely in response to the recent emotional posts Holly made since the dates match up.
>>1086227PS one vote for that not to be the thread pic because spoilered thread pics are annoying.
No. 1086519
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I won't look at the replies; Money says Hoelly stans like SadOld are just STEAMING and thinking that Ross is stealing nature from her.
No. 1086842
>>1086674I THINK the implication was that Heidi having the information of them cheating was her blackmailing Holly into silence about outting her as an
abusive monster. Like, Heidi was "blackmailing" her into not calling her
abusive publicly by holding the affair over her head. Which is hilarious because like she agreed to do it all discreetly until Jared went and blocked her and posted a statement without her input. But no, in their world she is a comic book supervillain who has an evil plan to expose the poor innocent Striath for their truwu love
Atleast that's the only thing I can think of that he would mean by blackmail
No. 1086877
>>1086842Which makes Holly's "I had no choice" lie all the more hilarious.
Heidi: "I won't talk about your affair and agree to keep the divorce peaceful if you don't spread that lie that I abused Jared"
Holly spreads lie about Heidi being
abusiveHeidi exposed affair
Holly is shocked by this betrayal
No. 1087008
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This was one of Ross's likes. Knowing how petty Holly is I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason why she started feeding sadoldmagician the lie that he was abusing her.
No. 1087013
>>1087008Pretty sure holly, heidi and jared liked similar tweets too recently and got shit on for doing so..with the exception of heidi of course.
>>1086842By literal definition she was blackmailed by heidi, there's no ifs or buts about it, if you state you can/will/would release information if someone does xyz, you're blackmailing them into silence/being obedient, period.
Considering holly dug her own grave, no one cares but you cannot deny that's exactly what happened. Otherwise, there could be a lot more going on that none of us know about because we know none of these people personally.
>>1086838>in order to get more pity Twitch subs from it.Looking over his stats, he seem to be getting subs just fine like every other twitch streamer who does virtually nothing to earn them.
No. 1087019
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Even kiwi farms, who were pretty forgiving of her up till now, are tired of her "woe is me crap".
No. 1087021
>>1087013>"She was blackmailed by Heidi"Oh get off of it - Someone saying "Don't spread slanderous lies about me being
abusive" isn't blackmail, it's just asking them to be honest for once in their life.
They were doing some real mental gymnastics and emotional abuse towards Heidi and she finally snapped. Admittedly (by heidi herself!), she could've handled things differently - but a person can only take their husband's whore lying about them being
abusive for so long before they start to swing back. Holly swung with lies, Heidi swung with evidence of Hoelly and PedoDick's lies.
No. 1087027
>>1087017I wouldn’t put it past her.
>>1087019Good on KF. Glad to see that others see past Hoelly’s and PedoDick’s BS.
No. 1087049
>>1087013By that logic you could say Holly was blackmailing Heidi by being like "say anything and I will out you for being an evil abuser"
Lets all just agree that there was no blackmail, just three people who knew bad things about the others. Was heidi supposed to just forget the affair so she couldn't be accused of blackmail? There was no blackmail, just a showdown of information.
I know people like to think that Heidi was behind everything including the pedo stuff but all she did was say that Jared cheated on her. It's not her fault other people came out of the woodwork to share their experience with Jared. She was just lucky that everyone else took her lead and outted him
No. 1087069
>>1087049But we know that it was Heidi who told Holly not to speak, not the other way round.
Just accept it was blackmail and stop trying to change the definitions of words.
No. 1087072
>>1087069Fine. Just feels weird calling it blackmail when it's literally someone being like "hey, please dont tell these lies about me to the public. If you do I'll have to tell the truth about what you did to me to defend myself" especially since Holly and Jared had a large platform that Heidi definently did not have. I'm sure she was scared, she lost her marriage, had to pick up everything and move, and had to live with the knowledge that at any time her husbands mistress could tweet her lunacy accusations about Heidi being a monster and send her large fanbase after her.
I guess I'm just having a hard time seeing Holly as the
victim No. 1087101
>>1087069>But we know that it was Heidi who told Holly not to speak, not the other way roundNo, there is no evidence of this conversation ever taking place. Neither has actually claimed this, either.
"Blackmail" implies that Jared or Holly had a personal secret that was their own business to keep private. Calling this situation "blackmail" assumes that Heidi had no right to talk about
her own experience that was incredibly devastating and life changing to her personally. You're basically making the claim that she OWED Jared and Holly her silence because it only pertained to them, and she was somehow wrong for sharing her own experience. But it wasn't their own private secret that didn't affect her. Holly and Jared were not
entitled to her silence.
Jared and Holly explicitly framed this as "blackmail" because they feel entitled to do and say whatever they want with no consequences or retribution. They're using this word to insist on their victimhood. It's all a part of their campaign to control what info gets out, and how people talk about it. "We were blackmailed" is their mental gymnastics version of, "we should be the only ones allowed to speak".
No. 1087251
>>1087244There’s a difference between retaliation and blackmail. I’ve seen no proof of any “arrangement.” The most we have is Heidi trying to get Jared to talk to her.
In terms of releasing shit, Heidi retaliated to the claim that their split was amicable with the truth, the claim that it wasn’t cheating cuz poly with more context, and so on…
for it to be blackmail, she would have said “you better stop or ill release the n00dz” and this didn’t happen.
No. 1087265
>>1087251That's not how blackmail works. It only has to be a threat of reciprocal action based on non-public information.
As an example: Heidi blackmailed Jared when she said she would ruin his career by releasing the information that he's a cheating piece of shit. She could have just gone public with it without the warning and it would not be blackmail or any other kind of manipulation. However, giving a threat with a qualification is blackmail.
Is she wrong for doing it? Heck no. Was it still blackmail. Yes, by definition. Does it matter that she did? Not really.
No. 1087316
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>>1087019Well, for once I
actually agree with something said on KF
Ross
absolutely deserves to come out on top in this particular situation!
No. 1087386
>>1087316He sure does, good for him. Hoelly must be seething.
>>1086514Yes, PedoDick is showing some support here, but it sounds like something anyone would say to any of their friends. I would think there would be more, considering it’s towards his supposed girlfriend.
No. 1087436
>>1086514This is literally just him trying to make her revert to backpedaling the second he noticed her on the cusp of coming to terms with the actual reality of her life. Classic avoidant behaviour where he neglects her for the most part and then when she shows any sign of disillusionment (shes super delusional to have come this far tho) he half asses some lies to feed her so she can scrounge some self pity enough to stay complacent in a shituation.
Classic avoidant anxious relationship which ends in the anxious becoming super bitter and the avoidant dying alone.
Also they were clearly sub-posting each other with that lame ass psuedo intellectual garbage about "we have been hurt, we need to heal" quotables on pastel backgrounds.
Youd think if lolcow and the ~internet~ was such a source of pain these clowns would get a damn diary
Also sorry if i saged wrong im so crap at this
No. 1087554
>>1087519HOlly + jaRED.
It's like Bennifer, Brangelina or Destiel.
No. 1087574
>>1087436Not to mention a HUGE hint: "you didn't do anything wrong"
because if she had… then it's another story. Holly "didn't do anything wrong"…
to himJared is the one person I truly believe would be able to slap some reality into Holly. She is so deep in her delusion that she is "saving" a man who really, really doesn't need to be saved. He is fine. He is still thirsty, he's still got his platforms, he's still got his fans, and he still gets money, maybe a bit less than before, but enough to live by.
Jared never changed. But Holly is never going to realize that he depends on her to keep it that way. Two
toxic, shitty people found each other and all they have are each other patting on the back saying they are
victims of the world, while they ruined the relationships of those that cared for them.
And Jared will never, ever let her see that she really did choose poorly. Holly gives him buzzwords and mental health mantras to drown out the sliver of conscience he could have had. Jared gives his scraps of validation to a narcissistic, mentally ill woman who scorched the earth for him and nobody will touch her with a ten-foot pole online, all because they played a DnD game together.
No. 1087633
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The one thing that continues to shock me is that people are shocked that he hasn't changed. That leafyishere tweet should have been a big hint.
No. 1087656
>>1087633That's just it (and fuck yall for making me agree with kf) - If Jared had just voted in a poll or something, nobody would be saying anything. The fact that he's going out of his way to make sexual jokes, to hit on women and tell them about the thirst? That says he hasn't learned a single thing from what happened and is just waiting for everyone to move on so he can go back to doing it again.
Hoelly went full scorched Earth and for what? A weird wormdick who may or may not be rubbing one out to nudes of minors that he abused his fame to solicit, fucking anything with a pulse that will hold still for five seconds, and condones her bird hording. You literally ruined any semblance of a career because you were….idk too cheap to go buy a good dildo. Jesus christ, that's depressing, Hoelly.
No. 1087745
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>>1087730There was a short Twitter thread where people were discussing cancel culture and someone casually brought up ProJared and this alt came out of nowhere defending him.
No. 1087746
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People accused it of being Jared's throwaway but I think it's Galvin White again because this account was created the around the time he became inactive, about a month ago. And he uses the same language Galvin White used from that tweet Jared liked.
No. 1087750
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This hasn't gone unnoticed either. As this guy noticed it too. There's another one that of course retweets sadoldmagician.
No. 1087780
>>1087711I don’t think Holly would actually be comfortable with an open relationship but she has painted herself into a corner. Jared has openly stated that he considers polyamory to be part of his sexual identity and they’ve called Heidi
abusive for not being 100% supportive of this, so what is Holly going to do? If she tells Jared that she’s not okay with him waving his dick at other women she’s being just as “
abusive” as Heidi was.
No. 1087787
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>>1087780Advice for Holly, for when she lurks here
No. 1087791
>>1087780I guess polyamory is alot easier to swallow when you're the other woman outside of the relationship. Once he is all yours you gotta be the Heidi, so let's see how it goes when the new Hoelly arrives and starts pushing her boundaries.
It's one thing to be okay with his totally unique LGBTQ+ identity of polyamory, but its another when he is publicly thirsting after hot cosplay/twitch girls, especially when she is going through a crisis with her birds. That's just embarrassing, he is straight up humiliating her but she doesn't care because he is Diath uwu
No. 1087836
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I'm confused, wasn't she just begging her fans for money because she couldn't afford her birds? But the next day she's taking in more birds? Has the money situation been solved?
No. 1087870
>>1087836The bird hoarding thing is just indicative of her complete lack of boundaries or priorities.
She literally waddles around parking lots trying to catch random injured pigeons. These are not domesticated animals, they are not pets, and they have nothing to give back to a caretaker or to the world at large. They aren't suited for adopting out or releasing back into the wild. They're the bottom of the food chain, prey animals that would die if nature ran its course. But Holly insists on collecting them to "save" them from the natural cycle of life.
Then they live the rest of their useless lives as a drain on her resources. The pigeons don't even like her, they fear her (she has made jokes about how she's a "big kaiju" who stomps into the coop to clean it, which terrifies them). I'm sure she "cares" about them in the sense that it hurts her bleeding heart to see an injured pigeon hopping around, but there are literally too many to even have names or distinct personalities. Being a "rescuer" is a part of her identity and reputation, but it's debatable of it's actually helpful to anyone. She takes good care of them, but what's the point? So they can live a little longer in captivity? It's more of a feel-good vanity project than it is reasonable… so of course she's completely dedicated to it and prioritizes it over everything else in her life, including getting a job or producing anything.
No. 1087878
>>1087836if only five days ago she was struggling so hard financially and was concerned for her birds’ well-being, then what could have possibly happened between then and now where her birds are all fine again and she suddenly has room for another one?
i’m guessing her emotionally manipulative twitter sperg for pin sales worked and now she can backpedal and act like she wasn’t implying her birds were dying less than a week ago. once a scammer always a scammer
No. 1087888
>>1087750Oh yeah, that definitely sounds like Gavin White to me. Seems like he’s got a few alts to harass anyone who dares to say anything bad about PedoDick. I saw him say something about how he fights so hard for Jared because he had something similar happen to him, and I just roll my eyes.
>>1087836I thought the same thing. She was crying about money so hard, but she’s able to take in another bird that will potentially drain her of more money? Makes me think that her money problems weren’t as bad as she’d been making them out to be.
>>1087884The fan who came out to say that Jared fucked her and left her, supposedly sent screenshots/proof to Heidi. Being as Heidi was going through the divorce process, she was smart enough not to put that out there. So there is stuff that isn’t out there on the internet. Same with the stuff that Heidi pulled from Jared’s old phone.
No. 1087890
>>1087836Birds are not that expensive to keep/care for just like many "Rescue" dog/cats. When did she beg for money though (legit curious since her tweet storms pushes things out so quickly)? I know she mentioned her income was down and things are tight, but I'd sooner believe holly than most "big name personalities" telling you to go their patreon /onlyfans because youtube is paying them $13k instead of $13.5k because a few vids get demonetized.
>>1087884Probably not. Just words we have to believe from Heidi but no one else.
No. 1087894
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>>1087890What were you saying about birds not being expensive?
No. 1087895
>>1087884i’m pretty sure she either still has a case open against them or she’s unable to post them for legal reasons. i remember people nagged heidi to post the private messages a lot when this all started but seemed to forget she was in the middle of a divorce process where she had to provide proof that there was infidelity involved, so she’s probably not gonna be able to share those messages
she did post a shit ton of messages between her, her best friend, holly and also messages she had with her counsellor a few threads back that definitely give a better insight into the situation though
No. 1087898
>>1087890This whole post is wrong. Congrats newfag.
>>1087894She's such an idiot. She deserves all of this.
No. 1087906
>>1087890You’ve obviously never had pets.
And Heidi ended up getting alimony, to the chagrin of Jared’s defenders, so that ought to tell you something.
No. 1087907
>>1087888 I’m reluctant to refer to that fan encounter as a good example because after Jared apologized to her and sent her screens, she ended up defending his case.
>>1087895I agree, there are hundreds of messages out there that we will probably never see, which is fine. I was just wondering if anon knew something I didn’t.
No. 1087908
>>1087907Washington law, it's illegal to share someone's texts or conversations like that without the consent of at least one involved member. Holly could share all her cherry-picked garbage because it was between Heidi and Jared, the latter of whom consented, but Heidi obviously wouldn't be able to get consent from either Jared or Holly to release those texts publically.
In a divorce case though, that's fair game.
No. 1087928
>>1087894Her smug faced profile pic is killing me with this text.
And why do anons always show up to rehash unfunny bullshit about Heidi whenever Holly's drama is getting good? I just want to laugh at Holly's crazy ass, I don't care about Heidi
No. 1087958
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>>1087944Kinda looks like she did ask for donations tho?
No. 1087964
>>1087958She did, but its heidi, so we have to ignore things like that.
(Ko-fi is literally a donation platform.)
No. 1087971
>>1087908it’s funny that even in the eyes of the law jared absolutely cheated while he was married to heidi, i don’t doubt for a second that he tried to use the “b-but we were poly!” excuse during the divorce process as well but whatever evidence heidi had in texts, photos etc proved that it was bullshit, she wouldn’t have gotten alimony if he was the innocent party out of the two of them
but his whiteknights would probably rather accuse the legal system of being gaslighting abusers than admit holly and jared are liars
>>1087928i truly believe it’s the same anon over and over again pretending to be unbiased but subtly pulling a “but heidi!!1” after almost every post in this specific thread lmao
No. 1087988
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interesting that she’s started publicly throwing jabs at ross not long after her whiteknight got called out here for doing the exact same thing. it seems like she’s been encouraging the narrative that he was abusive behind the scenes like we’ve been speculating
No. 1087995
>>1087988Not to sound too much like a stan, but if her idea of an
abusive partner is someone who took part in her bullshit ego projects like HoC, helped shield her from the drama that followed, put up enough with her narcissistic bullshit to marry her, then helped rebuild her image by getting her involved in his projects, then sign me the hell up for getting abused by Ross.
The fact that he stayed neutral when he could have tried to go scorched earth after she cheated on him with Spoony Jr and didn't tells you everything about the reality of their situation.
No. 1088011
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sorry for samefag and bad cropping, but gavin white is still lurking through the projared tag and pestering people, fucking hilarious that he’s calling them nobodies as if he isn’t
nothing says “i’m a somebody” quite like spending every single day butting into conversations amongst random twitter users to bully and harass them on behalf of two people who don’t give a shit about you
he’s also in another thread agreeing with people calling heidi crazy and talking about how he wants a psychologist to review the livestream she did a while back, he’s an absolute loser
No. 1088041
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>>1088032i’ll post it here for the sake of archiving. he admits he knows nothing about “psych stuff” yet happily feeds into the narrative that heidi is some unhinged bipolar abuser
but holly spergs on twitter about how online gossip forums are trying to kill her birds or has a meltdown over clown emojis and it’s radio silence from her stans
No. 1088045
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>>1088041idk who @fruityass21 is, but they're on a roll today!
No. 1088050
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>>1088045I love how this one's getting all riled up & running a whole thread of tweets responding to a tweet from a
year ago.
No. 1088053
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>>1088050"Only
I can tell who was abused & who isn't!"
No. 1088057
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>>1088053>>1088050>>1088045…But of course Jared's audience is
strictly 18+!!!
(I was wondering why this person had been on Twitter since 2009, yet writes like a tragically naïve 14-year old…
No. 1088059
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>>1088057Hey kid, that was
the point. Congrats for falling for it hook, line, & sinker.
No. 1088060
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>>1088057Hey, mom of 'Crazel', it's time to either take your account back or delete it, because your kid is using it to harass someone!
No. 1088066
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>>1088060Your child's obsession with this man is beyond concerning
No. 1088067
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>>1088066>>1088060Seriously, this is
not healthy
No. 1088090
>>1088060they literally described holly in that first tweet, if this is actually a child they need their internet shut off
worse yet, they’ve used the projared tag multiple times in these rants and yet none of the orbiters who lurk the tag have said anything about it, just fuelled it
as long as they can spin their narrative they’d turn a blind eye to a possible kid becoming unhealthily obsessed with two creeps in their thirties
No. 1088107
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>>1088082Their tweets prior to
>>1088057 are about multiple subjects, then once 'Crazel' supposedly took over it's been nothing but Hored vs Heidi crap.
No. 1088117
>>1088108This.
Seriously, cheating-crap aside, the man was
exposed for having parasocial relationships with his fans.
Sadly, I think their probably a teen, because their tweets seem to fluctuate with intensity.
No. 1088127
>>1088122…And yet I keep seeing
teenagers go after Heidi on Jared or Holly's behalf…
No. 1088131
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I don't get why Galvin White locks his main account to create another doing the same thing that got him hated in the first place, harassing strangers who don't like Jared. Well Jared liked one of his tweets so clearly he approves of this toxic behavior.
No. 1088134
>>1088131lmao dude actually went 'private'?
What the fuck did he expect after writing all that inflammatory shit???
No. 1088151
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>>1088134Sure did, just to run to his alt
No. 1088170
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This user seems to just be vomiting the shit Jared/Holly stans posted a year ago. Like, they link the "truth blog", a tumblr that hasn't been updated since sept 2019 and not the bullshit blogs of sadoldmagician/heidiofans or something actually recent.
No. 1088182
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>>1088101I think he tried to use "this is my identify now" as an uno reverse when Heidi asked to close the relationship. That way suddenly Heidi was the abuser for making him change who he was and go against his sexual identity
This is also why I guarantee an open relationship was his deal with Holly. He seems too attached to the idea to let it go, and she is too attached to him to deny him any thing he wants.
No. 1088185
>>1088118They sure sound like it, yeeesh. But hey, remember that Jared’s content only draws 18+ viewers, everyone! /s
Whoever that kid is, they’re going to end up getting their account shut down due to harassment.
No. 1088191
>>1088003Holly didnt just ask for donations for her birds like Heidi did. If she did I wouldn't care like I dont care with Heidi, it's normal for people to ask for that. My problem is that she brought up the drama yet again for more sympathy points.
There is a big difference "hey my pet has an expensive vet bill so here is a dono link or a link to my business if you wanna help out" and "MY PETS ARE DYING AND MY LIFE HAS BEEN TERRIBLE SINCE THE DRAMA. PEOPLE THREATENDED THAT THEY WOULD KILL MY BIRDS AND NOW THEY ARE DYING. PLEASE GIVE ME MONEY" especially when less than a week later she is posting about her new bird
Besides, heidi has long since quit the influencer game and is focused on her small business and is living on a single small income, I believe her when she says she needs money for an unexpected bill. I have a hard time believing a moderately successful influencer who has a patreon, store, AND active twitch chat/donos needs help with a vet, especially since she lives with another moderately successful influencer (who is currently lamenting that he couldn't drop hundreds on a new console…)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: whenever Hored are lamenting about their finances it's because they cant live the same bougie lifestyle they used to. They are fine financially, they aren't losing their house or anything anytime soon. But now they cant go out to dinner every night and buy expensive niche witch decor and get expensive coffee at niche indie coffee shops three times a day, boo hoo :(
No. 1088211
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Fucking seriously
No. 1088218
>>1088211This is a 30-something adult man asking for simp-style gifts. I would feel way less negatively if he asked for game suggestions that he hasn't yet shown with a place to submit suggestions but also offered a PO box where people could send him things. This entire trio is just the picture of unprofessional. They're a slideshow of everything not to do as a public figure or business owner.
Also, is he asking for stuff because Holly recently begged and got what she wanted and he saw that and wants it for himself, or is there a bit of financial difficulty in the Hored household?
No. 1088226
>>1088067Saying Jared reminds them of Rose Quartz is hilarious since most of the SU fan base thinks of her as a selfish abuser that seemed to have good intentions but only did what she did to fulfil her own curiosity.
>>1088191This. Holly comes off as those munchies that are always asking for donations for their medical bills and then they show off their haul of expensive rare collectors items. It's even worse since she has the means to have a more viable income but she keeps ruining her own chances by making most of her streams pity parties and doesn't do anything interesting.
No. 1088380
>>1088154I feel a lot of empathy for Heidi so I have a bias towards supporting her trying to work through trauma via twitter but she REALLY needs to find a healthy outlet because the comfort from venting is very fleeting. The people who criticize her here aren’t always wrong to-but unfortunately they have been childish about it and super reactive so they don’t end up making any good points or adding anything valuable.
I’m not gonna pretend like I find Holly likeable but she clearly has this need to feel “wanted” and to “fix” things. Birds, people, probably friends too. She clearly sees herself as a super good person and a helpless
victim when facing consequences. She doesn’t see her actions as anything but good intentions, like other anons said.
Could be the issue with Ross, he didn’t need her even though he loved her. Maybe they were
toxic to each other. My only impression of Ross comes from when he joins Vinny’s streams, so who knows.
>>1088191> My problem is that she brought up the drama yet again for more sympathy points.Even despite the money between both her and Jared if she was pushing for people to buy pins or whatever for a less important reason or just because she enjoys creating that’s respectable. Shame the self-pity has been working in her favour.
Good luck to her birds, regardless.
No. 1088442
>>1088211W E L P
I guess Heidi's games really were mainly props for him.
No. 1088444
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there is a difference between just liking sexy cosplayer pictures and replying to one saying they are your thirst follow lmao
No. 1088510
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Oh please. If you want the drama to be over cus it happened so long ago then why did you go out of your way to follow a blog made a year after the drama happened? And why do you continue to shit talk Holly and Jared's exes? If you cared that much you wouldn't answer any asks about the drama but you continue to do so because out of all the asks on your blog it's ones about the drama that get the most likes on your empty blog.
No. 1088511
>>1088510Motherf literally started his tumblr blog to get his business up into the drama.
Guess super-besties Hored are realizing he's doing them more harm than good and are pressuring him to stop.
No. 1088543
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>>1088440A lot of people don’t want to be talked about or have their lives poked at on LC. Even you are not leaving him out of it, posting about him and then saying he asked not to be involved in the same post.
What I meant was he wasn’t a “project” Holly could take on which wasn’t a dig that he didn’t measure up somehow. She didn’t feel important as “Ross’ wife” or whatever her excuse was for chasing the high of getting attention from an ugly, lanky nerd during a literal game that spilled from fantasy into a fucked-up real life situation. Instead of communicating properly, acting appropriately (or any other mature options one would expect from a thirty-whatever year old woman in a marriage) she decided to cheat, manipulate, lie, omit facts, and the list goes on.
Ross is a grown ass man, I’m sure he can handle being mentioned occasionally especially when SadOld can’t resist implying he knows something bad about “the punk” to prove he isn’t actually just a weird fan with a VIP hiking pass from Hored but TRULY a close friend who is confided in.
No. 1088569
>>1088510>"Fuckin why does anyone care anymore"Maybe because the one you're simping for brings it up every time she faces a negative consequence to her actions. Maybe because, over a year later, you're now trying to slander Ross to make him out to be
abusive when even Hoelly herself had admitted to being
abusive in the past.
No. 1088653
>>1088637"I just want to point out that the people who accused me are E-Begging! - don't you guys think that's pretty sus???"
1 year later
"Hey guys, can you send me some games, pls?"
No. 1088671
>>1088510-Makes Tumblr blog to keep talking about the drama, specifically to talk shit about Hored’s exes.
-Gets mad when people continue to talk about the drama.
Oookay, SadOldSimp.
>>1088637Yeah, this is just gross and pathetic. I don’t care how expensive GameCube games are now, don’t go begging your fans for them.
No. 1088686
>>1088679I don't think it's sad anon, she had good moments with her grandpa, but it explains her bird obsession. It also explains her weird savior complex on animals she clearly can't afford to take care of properly which isn't only harming the birds, but stressing herself out too
Instead of keeping things under control and caring for birds she can budget for and give them space she's just hoarding them and then begging for money. She's 1 person not a bird society, she doesn't have the space nor the money nor the equipment to be a bird rescue
Fixing birds won't fix her problems anon, no need to feel sad about it
No. 1088986
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“I don’t know how I keep running into all these tweets that mention ProJared, my Twitter defaults to the search bar.”
Suuuuuure, Gavin White. Trying to pull the Boomer excuse.
No. 1089040
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>>1088986the full version is even funnier, this was in response to the user further up the thread who called him and the other throwaway accounts out for lurking the projared tag. this dude cowers away the minute he gets the same level of aggression directed back at him and tries to desperately backpedal, just like his best friends holly and jared
No. 1089065
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People are actually donating games to him? Wow, WTF.
No. 1089096
>>1089071It's just a gross abuse of his e-celeb status (and before the stans come for me, I'd say the same thing about anyone else in a similar financial position as Jared). If you CAN afford the games, look 'em up and buy them your damned self; Don't ask your fans to not only send them to you, but to have to also pay the cost to ship them to you.
THIS right here is why I tend to think more of his collection belonged to Heidi than the stans want to admit, if dude is hardcore begging fans for their free leftovers. Then again, looking at his choice in things like women and games, leftovers just might be what he prefers.
No. 1089097
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>>1089065He has a (presumably) complete version of one of the most expensive DS games. I can understand a collector not wanting to part with something like that but if volume really is the goal he could get like 5 or 6 ds games selling that
sorry for deleting and reposting accidently selected the wrong snip
No. 1089125
>>1089096It really is. Just using his fans as usual, I shouldn’t be surprised by now.
I also believe that it’s pretty likely that Heidi owned more of the collection than what was presented.
No. 1089140
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Not only is SadOldSimp modding for ProDick these days, but he's also apparently modding (or holding a higher rank? idk) for Hoelly Conartist too. Apparently him publicly slandering her ex is paying off with Hoelly.
No. 1089149
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>>1089125Heidi indicated that his collection was largely separate from hers.
No. 1089150
>>1089140Scarletmoth is the "anonymous" source that told petitiondan about Ross being the real
abusive one and who talked about how even though she is ace Jared talked her into sending him nudes. Kinda funny that Hoelly still has her clinging on, you'd think she would be intimidated by a more attractive woman who has sent nudes to her boy toy before
No. 1089203
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>>1089197Hored in a nutshell
No. 1089224
>>1089214You forget, Anon, that these are the same people who accused Heidi of initially coming forward for some kind of profit, but saw nothing wrong with Hored selling those bs "cancelled" shirts less than a year later.
"Standards are for thee, not for me" -Hored, probably
No. 1089269
>>1089096He can get fucked for his hypocrisy, but despite some being rare (maybe even holding sentimental value for the person gifting the games) it just seems incredibly the norm. Gamers love sending games to YouTubers, YouTubers in general use their fans for their own gain on the daily.
Am I annoyed he’s getting things he wants so easily? Yeah, it’s irritating.
Is it an abuse of power? Maybe, but it would mean every person who’s fanbase contributes financially or sends gifts because of parasocial relationships could be viewed the same light. If the only reason it’s wrong for him to ask for games is because he’s a disgusting, creepy abuser-I 100% fully support everyone being pissed off about it.
>>1089071Yeah, even despite him outright asking people instead of just getting them every now and then it’s because he said “games they don’t want anymore” which makes the difference here to me. There’s no emotional breakdown before it, and it’s not disgusting or taking advantage of anyone like how he was soliciting sex/nudes.
Other anons are right for saying he should have tried to buy the games himself first because he most-likely has connections he could use along with his own finances available to do so, but putting it out there is always worth a try. The whole “Asking your neighbour for a cup of sugar” thing, if you will.
No. 1089275
Now that the divorce is done, can't Heidi finally release those texts/conversations she was alluding to between Whorey and Propeen? Or is there suspicion she signed an nda? If not, finally releasing that proof would be amazing to see.
>>1088211What a privileged fuck.
No. 1089279
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lol hi sadoldmagician. This anon is too mad for it to be anyone else.
No. 1089360
>>1088211Holy shit, they really are just props and he almost got away with stealing the only valuable games in his collection from Heidi.
All the games here that stand out to me aside from well known Nintendo or Capcom ones were definitely no more than $10.
I've seen that Bratz gamecube shovelware game for literally $2 at pawn shops in recent years.
I'm unfamiliar with his youtube but I have trouble believing a grown man with a not satirical gaming channel would unironically play "Bratz Diamondz" and put it on display, kek.
Another spergy nitpick of mine is that quite a few of those GameCube games are PAL region only like Darkened Skye, which isn't a bad thing sometimes Europe exclusives are technically rarer but it means there's no way he was able to play them without importing a GameCube from Australia or Europe because it's a regionlocked console.
Darkened Sky is basically only rarer by default due to it's limited release but it's on ebay right now for 35$ so not actually rare or anything worth flexing about.
I don't know if I got good deals or not but I've seen the furry DS game with the chunky box Sola to Robo for 10$ or less second hand at EB games many times, not that exciting just thought it's kind of weird that he probably hasn't played more than 5 minutes of it so he has no clue so mentioning this is a reach but iirc it has lots of uncomfortable loli furry harem scenes with sexual harassment.
People always bitch about "fake gamer gurlsss" but I dunno, man. fake gamer guys seem more common or just as common.
No. 1089421
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Sage because off current topic but I found this post on /r/DiceCameraAction that's hilarious in retrospect
They are discussing the idea of Heidi guesting on the show to play Diath's abusive ex lover
No. 1089436
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"You're right, anon, she IS batshit crazy and evil!"
He went from saying that he believes Heidi and her friend are some of the main anons in this thread and saying that he regularly tells Holly to stay off here to being addicted himself lmao. He obviously compulsively checks this page as well as has notifications set for HOF since he replies to their posts the minute they go live. Dude is unhealthy obsessed with simping
No. 1089441
>>1089360>Holy shit, they really are just propsHate to show the "little man behind the curtain" but 99% of gamer youtubers/twitch streamers use their collections as props as they are literally just that: a collection, they're not to be played. This is why with AVGN even though he use prop versions for certain stuff he actually breaks out his collection FOR use for his video. He's one of the few of that does and it's not just sitting making the room look full.
>People always bitch about "fake gamer gurlsss" but I dunno, man. fake gamer guys seem more common or just as common.It's because fake gamer gurls are in your face, plastered everywhere making money pretending to be gamers while obviously only there to jiggle their tits and shill their OF/Patreon more so than actually playing the game properly. "Fake gamer boiz" aren't really a thing in the same context.
No. 1089458
>>1089436Considering how obsessed he is with this thread, HOF thread, etc, sounds like SadOldSimp could stand to take some of his own advice.
“Most of the internet is on our side.” LOL. Maybe he needs to take a swim through Twitter like Gavin White and his alts do, he may want to reconsider that statement.
No. 1089513
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>>1089456the passion of their defense is laughable when you take a step back
"the two people with a
problematic history spanning a decade are possibly
problematic yet again? No, it's the ex-spouses who haven't had a single instance of drama who are wrong!"
No. 1089587
>>1089436>calling someone batshit crazy and evil>signing off with concern about OPs mental healthSo…uh you're "batshit crazy" if they don't like you but uwu mental health if they do. It doesn't work that way, empathy and sympathy for mental health is not a case by case basis.
Or…they are just calling Hedi crazy because that is their excuse for treating her like shit, when anyone who read her Tweets or saw her streams could tell how kind and sane she is? Yeah, it's the second one. Her only mistake was being too lenient with his pedo "body posi" nude accounts and "open" relationship garbage when he's just a sex pest.
No. 1089597
>>1089441Yeah but a collection that includes a fucking Bratz game and games that are region-locked for different countries makes is glaringly obvious they are just decorations, rather than games that even hold personal value or significance.
At this point he could just buy empty cases and print the covers off since they're
only for looks.
No. 1089612
>>1089587Yeppp. People like Gavin White have also been pushing the narrative of Heidi being some crazed, unhinged person, so I’m not surprised that others have been choosing to do the same. It’s gross the lengths they go to in order to defend a sex pest.
>>1089604Right? It’s absolutely an abuse of power or whatever he has, efame or influence I suppose. The answer is yes.
No. 1089617
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>>1089610SOM: Move on from the drama! IT WAS A YEAR AGO!
Also SOM: -see screenshot-
Is it possible to get a notification when a blog you follow on tumblr posts anything? This dude is up HOF's ass within MINUTES of them making a post
No. 1089633
>>1089624Everyone is emotionally unstable at different points at their lives anon. I didn’t know that claiming that someone is probably not hysterical or batshit crazy is now considered WKing.
eyeroll SOM and Gavin White and whoever else trying to push that narrative ought to be careful, that’s stepping into slander/libel lawsuit territory.
No. 1089638
>>1089617Yeah you can set notifications on the tumblr app for when certain accounts post. SadOldSimp absolutely has them set for HOF.
He said he recently got a job working from home, I wonder how much of his work time is spent monitoring the drama
No. 1089645
>>1089637But Heidi
yelled at Holly on the phone! Being angry once means you're
batshit crazy but being mentally ill every day of your life means you're uhm…
No. 1089659
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>>1089613He was on Nickelodeon so he knows he has an underage audience. That and when people wouldn't send him nudes he would try to pressure them.
No. 1089675
>>1089637don’t forget her using a man’s suicide to rant about her own experience of getting spammed with clown emojis, or when her fellow dca member’s ex husband passed away and instead of paying respects, started manically replying to people criticising her and liking tweets about how “just being alive is enough uwu”
but heidi is super unstable and scary for yelling at holly once while telling her to stop trying to fuck her husband
No. 1090127
>>1089944Now now.
#BeKindToMeAndMyFriends
Remember when Adam Koebel turned out to be a gross creeper too and she tried to gaslight the
victims and downplay the shit he pulled because cancelbaduwu and "it wasn't that bad I was aboosed for real"?
No. 1090132
File: 1606199781810.jpg (314.04 KB, 1028x1564, Stil.jpg)
Take your own advice SOM
No. 1090871
File: 1606262067648.jpg (182.83 KB, 720x899, Screenshot_20201124-185259_Tum…)
Is he just living in an alternate timeline where there isn't almost 1 and a half years of him bitching and whining about Heidi?
No. 1090961
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we're not the only ones who noticed the two faced shit of SOM these days.
No. 1091128
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TWC/HollyComrade pointed out how hypocritical SadOld is, got this shit in return where he continues to not see the irony.
No. 1091153
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Imagine thinking other people should be more responsible for Hoelly cumrag’s mental health than she is.
No. 1091169
>>1091153Dont yall understand that you aren't allowed to critique people (unless they're Heidi)?!?!?!
Am I supposed to believe SOM didnt send this anon? Because I dont lmao, has his writing style all over it, as do alot of the submissions on HOF. Like it or not SOM you're the biggest dramatube fan here
No. 1091177
>>1091171HOF has at least two other named followers besides SOM. I'm sure they're somewhere in the list of people asking him questions. There's also the occasional obvious troll asks, but even SOM isn't good enough to get trolled.
Speaking of, at least HOF went on record saying that Jared's nude blog was a stupid idea. SOM won't even say that much. I think that's why HOF gets more people paying attention to his blog, he's the more sensible of the Hored stans.
No. 1091277
>>1091271Really? That's why they're so invested? Because they're literally self inserting themselves into internet drama?
If only it was just the cheating people would be way over this by now…but the predatory behavior, manipulation of fans, baiting low self esteemed girls with "body positivity" blogs so he could hand pick his harem, those parts were the actually milky parts.
Don't get me wrong cheating still sucks, but it's not the scarlet letter they think it is.
No. 1091353
>>1091348I think the issue some are having with this argument is you can't 100% correlate that no matter if you like or hate jared. Markiplier's loudest fans are female (underaged ones at that) but no one goes around saying he ONLY has underaged female fans because that would be dumb, so using that logic you'd say Mark only has under 18 female fans and him selling his "tasteful nude calendar" is peddling to underaged girls which should get him in a shit ton of trouble. "But markiplier is wholesome and not blah blah blah", doesn't change laws my friend.
So at the end of the day we should really drop what his fan base is/isn't because that's literally the weakest argument that can be applied to SO many youtubers/twitchers/tiktokers etc that do risque shit on the daily.
>>1091277>Really? That's why they're so invested? Because they're literally self inserting themselves into internet drama?Most definitely.
No. 1091360
>>1091353While I can see the first point you made, (also not the anon you replied to), and I am also definitely not the target demographic either for a nude calendar or markiplier, I feel like the difference between those two creators is the insidious intent. Mark is not making videos for an underage audience, and he is within his rights to make a tastefully nude calendar for sale in his shop, but he's very clear about it: it's nudity, and it's for sale officially and not through a donation or some shady means.
Whereas I really don't like when creators are open and encouraging to ask or even accept nudes from their fans. Mark is willingly printing and selling the nudes in a way he is consenting to and there is a legal "on the table" monetary gain for him. The tumblr/snapchat nudes were consented to, sure, but there was no officiality to it, there was no receipt, no "proof", there was nothing to make this feel legitimate and safe. There is also no way to verify age short of the fans sending pics of their IDs or official documentation. While there isn't for the calendar either, you can at least have a paper trail of the transaction.
There is also Jared's direct transaction: compliments and flirting. Compliments and flirting when he liked how you look, a generic feel-good word when you were just "okay". That goes beyond an email confirmation saying "thank you for your purchase!" Mark is not right there looking at every person who bought his calendar and judging them on their appearance. If you were lucky enough you may even get banged, like unogirl. And even if you take screenshots, "oh they can be faked!" You can't even delete or hide your blog anymore because you'll be accused of lying. Which doesn't prove anything, because the blog not being there doesn't mean there wasn't evidence in the first place. It's like saying "well there's no body here, so there clearly wasn't a murder"
It's miles apart in how these situations are handled.
No. 1091385
>>1091360are you smoking crack?
you can’t compare a grown man selling lewd photos of himself above the table to a man soliciting nudes from fans off of a tumblr blog. the power dynamic is completely different in those scenarios: one is providing a product while the other expects others to be the product. I don’t even like markiplier (or any gaming YouTuber for that matter) but he didn’t publish the calendar with the expectation that his fans would reciprocate with their own nudes like Jared did with his blogs.
No. 1091408
>>1091295Oh wow, they sure are. And who would choose to cheat on their SO with a basement dweller like SOM? Yikes.
>>1091348Yeah, I do have a little more respect for HOF than the average Hored because they do admit that Hoelly and Pedodick did some things wrong.
>>1091153We all know that this is SOM sending an ask to HOF, it’s pretty easy to tell. If he really wants to be a good friend to Hoelly, then he needs to encourage her not to seek out this shit. Not attempt to censor people what they say on their own blog, or insert himself into drama only to create more drama.
No. 1091498
>>1091385you quoted the wrong reply anon, I am the post saying that you can't compare them because they are obviously different. Next time look closer at who you're quoting
I literally said everything you just mentioned lol
No. 1091551
>>1091353This is different. One is someone selling their lewds transparently and the other was soliciting nudes under the guise of “body posi” and then reciprocating. Come back when markiplier starts soliciting the people that purchased his calendar for their nudes.
And I’ll just say, markiplier is a fucking dumbass for doing a lewd calendar wtf is he thinking? Just reminds me of the women who have a platform and decide they’d get more money by starting an onlyfans. He’s fortunate enough to be a guy, he doesn’t have to sell his body!
No. 1091593
>>1091551Yeah, and don’t forget that PJ was not only expecting nudes as reciprocation, he was also pressuring people for nudes by sending them his own risqué pics first. Ugh.
>>1089659If someone wants to sell their nudes or risqué pics that’s one thing, but it’s a whole different and predatory thing when you’re sending risqué pics in hopes of getting nudes in return.
No. 1091710
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We're all onto you, SOM.
No. 1091780
>>1091602Thanks for the clarification, anon. I should have known that HOF wouldn’t have been so scathingly truthful about SOM, lmao.
>>1091710Yep, definitely sounds like SOM. His crusade to wipe the internet clean of any negativity towards Hored just isn’t going to work.
No. 1092032
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And this right here is how you should handle "bad brain days", Hored. Take notes from the one you both fucked over.
No. 1092723
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I guess I should feel honored to be posted on HOF blog, lol.
This is such a shit take because it’s just false. At least, I haven’t seen people actively telling anyone to go @ Hoelly or Pedodick about their sins. I also haven’t been through all of the threads, but from what I’ve seen, others have also been against any sort of direct harassment. What I do think is rich is that one drama blog believes that another drama blog just shouldn’t exist because they don’t like what is said on here.
I stand by what I said: Holly has chosen as her career to be an Internet personality. It is not my responsibility or anyone else’s responsibility if she chooses to go to places that will likely have negative things said about her. Regardless of mental health status. If this is something she can’t handle, then she needs to go down another career path. Places like lolcow have existed as long as the internet has existed, and they will continue to exist.
No. 1092743
>>1092729I've noticed that a majority of the submissions on that blog are in his writing style. Never the asks, always submissions, because god forbid he have a character limit. Maybe I'm just tinfoil but take a look at any submission and you can tell its him, especially the ones about Heidi. And you cant submit anonymously on tumblr, so the way HOF is posting it is just copying and pasting the submission into a text post. That means when he sends these in he is requesting for it to be anonymous.
Also explains
>>1091710. It's not like TWC/Hollycomrad is gonna post his submissions anonymously like HOF does ever so sweetly, so he has to resort to asks to remain anonymous
Dude stalks Heidi just as much as we do Hored lmao
No. 1092783
>>1092778Uh, Anon, I don't know what threads you've been reading, but when it's
valid criticism, we're all about it. No one has ever said Heidi is a saint, just that on the pyramid of shittiness, Hored is at the top and Heidi is way down that food chain for being able to admit and recognize when she fucks up.
No. 1092797
>>1092791which is funny bc I don't recall there being some rule that we have to be equally judgmental on both parties. So even if all we did was shit on Hored all day, so fucking what? They also shit on Heidi all day. Try and tell them that they should be as critical of their stans as we should apparently be on Heidi lol. Also cowtipping isn't allowed and any frequent board members know that
The idea that you can go on a public space and complain that "yeah but you don't talk about X uwu" is hilarious. They don't even bring a good or decent point to the table about Heidi.
I'm sorry that the decade of evidence that your stan is a shitty person overwhelms the weak arguments you're trying to make
No. 1092811
>>1092778When did I ever say that people not defending Heidi are automatically Holly stans? Don’t put words into my mouth, anon. I will say that people like Gavin White/PzykoPath/IngramVermillion don’t make the Hored stans look good just because they are out there actively harassing people on Twitter who don’t support Holly and Jared.
>>1092797Exactly. I don’t agree with HOF opinions but I’m not on a crusade to shut them down because they post things I don’t like. At the end of the day though, Holly really has left a trail of shittiness and drama over the decade she’s been a thing. To me, it just goes to show that a leopard can’t change their spots.
No. 1092845
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SOM: The most I've done is comment!"
SOM in May 2020: -goes on TWC to tell them they're indulging in self harm behavior while excusing Hoelly Cumrag of publicly saying she does the exact same thing-
No. 1092882
>>1092723Correction:
Lolcow:
Stalks Hored Holly: "I'm having a bad brain day!!! I can't believe that people wish my birds dead. Please buy my pins and I'm broke because of all the drama, but I DID NOTHING WRONG!!!"
Lolcow:
nitpicks and bashes No. 1092883
>>1092845The best thing this man could do is get the fuck off tumblr, lmao. He is making himself and Hored look so bad. Why did he randomly become obsessed with HeidiOFans this year, well after the drama? Imagine spending your day seeking out terrible things people are saying about people you care about, fucking weird
Just like
>>1092723 said, websites like lolcow will always exist. For some reason Holly thinks she is the worlds first cow and that her and her simps can put an end to drama threads by playing the mental health card, sorry Hoelly but for once your mental health sui bait isn't gonna win you whatever you want.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: a majority of the internet is all for Hored. They think Jared was falsely accused of EVERYTHING and that Heidi made up the pedo stuff and is a crazy slut and that Jared and Holly are beacons of defeating cancel culture. Her and SadOldSimp have to go way out of their way to find sites like this that criticize Hored yet it seems to be the only sites they visit.
Maybe they are mad that even Kiwifarms is getting sick of Hoellys shit
No. 1092887
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Ew. KF is right, ProDick hasn't learned a single fucking thing about keeping his horniness off of public websites.
No. 1093000
>>1092923Those people replying are weird too but atleast they aren't content creators with an audience of people of all ages following them who probably dont want to see that shit on their timeline
I guess he cant be horny on tumblr anymore so it's off to Twitter
No. 1093297
>>1093272It's not "the narrative we want to be true" - It's the narrative that IS true. There is no denying that he used the internet and his e-celeb status to fulfill his sexual needs, including but not limited to meeting up with fans to have one night stands and getting them to send him nudes under the guise of "Body positivity"
It isn't outside the realm of positivity that he is once again publicly using the internet to fulfill a sexual need, especially considering the recent incident with his instagram recommended and now him saying a lewd drawing "makes him feel something"
No. 1093323
>>1093296He needs a private friend Twitter if he wants to joke around with friends that way. It’s not that hard.
Publicly making sexual jokes and responses to girls, even if friends, gives the impression that he is someone one can talk to casually about sex. He then has a history of accepting these advances and making spaces to solicit nudes specifically. He’s opening the door to say “oh these people started the convo! I didn’t ask for it. Still cool tho!”
No. 1093330
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Someone sent HOF a message about how lolcow apparently just wants Hored to not have an online presence anymore and look who was there within MINUTES. Either he has an alert set for when they post, or homeboy mcasshole was the one who submitted the ask(s) himself.
No. 1093336
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>>1093330"perhaps Jared should self-reflect and think more before he posts things on his public profiles and Holly should see a therapist to stop using manipulative tactics on her followers"
"ThEy should NOT have presence ANYWHERE they are blocked, BLOCKED from the internet! Never again! Lolcow hates them, off with their heads!"
I hope SOM gets a new hobby because jesus christ man, at least we all have lives outside of this thread. Do they do
anything else with their life other than orbit around Hored? This is just sad at this point
No. 1093394
>>1093359You hit the nail on the head.
>>1093330For someone who tells all of us here to get a life, move on, etc, SOM sure does jump on those posts of HOF really damn fast. He needs to take his own advice for once.
No. 1093551
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Just gonna leave this here.
No. 1093581
>>1093330I enjoy primarily lurking but god this is sad.
Sadold, if you read this - and you will, I'm sure - just quit while you're ahead. People want your shitty friends to not only be held accountable for the harm they've caused, but hold THEMSELVES accountable. You are enabling them by never holding them accountable for cheating, which, yes, is a form of abuse, never holding Jared accountable for the nudes blog/soliciting nudes from fans, the list goes on. If they took time away from the internet to re-evaluate themselves and their behaviour, of course anons here will be wary and nitpicky but the threads will at least eventually die. Sods like you keep this thread alive by feeding the fire because you're unable to stop yapping about two people who'd never defend you the same way you do for them. Anons have said in these threads many times what the two turds should do if they wanted these threads to die, if they want to be less shitty people.
Just learn to read something that isn't asspats, basically.
No. 1093591
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When you contradict yourself in two posts or less in a bid to defend someone who is CLEARLY just using you to boost their own ego
No. 1093897
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Holly: THE DRAMA POISONED MY BIRDS
Heidi: lol move the fuck on to bigger and better, bitch
No. 1093932
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>>1088108>>1088185Someone very kindly told this obvious child to calm down about the drama a few days ago, but of course, it appears they just couldn't help themselves…
No. 1093991
>>1093984People don't stop dreaming as soon as they hit 30 you know.
Some people don't get their dream jobs until their 40s be it through circumstance, lack of opportunity or just not settling on what it is until then.
Quit nickpicking
No. 1094027
>>1093920>my birds are dying because of the internet So we were supposed to just sycophantically follow Holly and love her just so she had income to take care of a hoard of birds she chose to take in by herself probably against most professionals opinion? Normal people face consequences for their actions. It feels like Holly lives in a bubble where she was so coddled by being in the GG fandom she truly believes shed an "uwu bird mom"
You dont have to lie to be a bad person. You can straight up say with your whole chest "I am a self absorbed, self pittying woman who has no respect for others but myself" and it doesn't make you any less of a shit person for admitting it. You're a shit person, your morals are shit and what you and Jared did to Heidi is shit. Cope.
No. 1094101
>>1094048Because she's successfully manipulated people into thinking she's the true
victim who's being bullied by by the whole world. Idk how someone can look at Holly/Jared's videos like to dislike ratio compared to Heidi's videos and still believe Holly's narrative.
No. 1094133
>>1094101Last time I looked, Jared simps made quick work on the like/dislike ratio on
all of Heidi's videos.
No. 1094531
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"They are fanfiction writers about real life"
This is rich, coming from the guy defending two people who took their weird dnd roleplay into real life.
No. 1094568
>>1094531To be fair nobody here has any receipts, it was just
>>1091271 and they never posted any evidence to back it up
No. 1094769
>>1094623Right? Like, no one had even talked about him and geraldo being cheaters in a few days. If a random person was going to ask him about it, why would they wait several days? This dude is legitimately just pissed that being a mod of PJ2 doesn't actually make him popular at all.
I just don't get why they are so determined to try and fight Hored's battles on the one corner of the internet that doesn't lick their assholes. Every time they TRY, they just wind up making themselves look even dumber.
No. 1094877
>>1088211Holy shit, they really are just props and he almost got away with stealing the only valuable games in his collection from Heidi.
All the games here that stand out to me aside from well known Nintendo or Capcom ones were definitely no more than $10.
I've seen that Bratz gamecube shovelware game for literally $2 at pawn shops in recent years.
I'm unfamiliar with his youtube but I have trouble believing a grown man with a not satirical gaming channel would unironically play "Bratz Diamondz" and put it on display, kek.
Another spergy nitpick of mine is that quite a few of those GameCube games are PAL region only like Darkened Skye, which isn't a bad thing sometimes Europe exclusives are technically rarer but it means there's no way he was able to play them without importing a GameCube from Australia or Europe because it's a regionlocked console.
Darkened Sky is basically only rarer by default due to it's limited release but it's on ebay right now for 35$ so not actually rare or anything worth flexing about.
I don't know if I got good deals or not but I've seen the furry DS game with the chunky box Sola to Robo for 10$ or less second hand at EB games many times, not that exciting just thought it's kind of weird that he probably hasn't played more than 5 minutes of it so he has no clue so mentioning this is a reach but iirc it has lots of uncomfortable loli furry harem scenes with sexual harassment.
People always bitch about "fake gamer gurlsss" but I dunno, man. fake gamer guys seem more common or just as common.
No. 1094899
>>1094877We've already been over this anon.
>People always bitch about "fake gamer gurlsss" but I dunno, man. fake gamer guys seem more common or just as common.Guessing you're the same anon as before: No, "fake gamer boys" doesn't exist in the same context.
No. 1094901
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>>1094877Looks like a couple of suckers really did send him games too.
No. 1094986
>>1094958The whole idea of making a post about it just reeks of the same shit he'd pull with the nudes.
He didn't seem to grasp that people were sending him nudes to get his attention (and not because 'body positivity!' or what the fuck ever), and he seems to not be grasping or caring that they're sending him games for the exact same reason.
No. 1095118
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Holy balls, the mental gymnastics that the Hored stans pull of is unreal.
"Things they never said"
There's literal evidence of Holly saying "And now my birds are dying, which is what people threatened to do - kill my birds", but okay, Jan. We're really the ones making shit up.
Also, judging by the random capitalization of the words, I no longer think SOM is sending messages to himself - I think it's this person who also likes almost every post that both SOM and HOF makes.
No. 1095121
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>>1095118"lolcow makes things up, but not us! we only tell the truth! we never ignore facts or twist events to fit our narrative, nope"
also it's funny because they are misunderstanding the very nature of lolcow; this is an entire… forum, I guess? this board is full, FULL of internet personalities, hundreds if not thousands of anons all over the world, it's not built exclusively for Holly, as opposed to some tumblr blogs who are literally 1 person talking about a specific subject
it just highlights how sad they are. The only attention they are thriving from is from us. Otherwise they are just sad little yappy dogs trying to bite the ankles of anyone who dares criticize their uwu
victim Holly. They would be so sad if we stopped paying attention to them because so many of their replies and submissions are trying to get a reaction out of us;
meanwhile we can just bounce to another thread and talk about someone else lol sorry you're not special
No. 1095124
>>1094948All youtubers and streamers are conning their fans with this logic which isn't wrong, they make money and still get handouts. "but it's different they're not hored!"
>>1094986It's no where near the same thing, most creators have a po box for fans to send shit in this must be the nitpicking thing an anon earlier spoke about.
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uhhh…..
No. 1095198
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>>1095118>Also, judging by the random capitalization of the words, I no longer think SOM is sending messages to himself - I think it's this person who also likes almost every post that both SOM and HOF makes.You're right about that one. What's with all these spastic fucking Holly stans? If its not reeing behind anons pretending to be someone else then it's alt accounts on Twitter.
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>>1095219
> this is giving me so much secondhand embarrassmentThis dude has been making me cringe for a while now. They often like to admit their fantasies of HOF and how they picture them and such.
Now the Cow's Simp has a Simp. It just never ends
No. 1095259
>>1095198I think it’s similar to how people get deep into conspiracy theories. Hored are shitty people, with documented proof that they’re shitty people, but because someone likes something that they do, instead of just accepting that they’re shitty people, they have to come up with something to nullify or justify their shittiness. And that also means that they need to come up with all these alts/anons in order to attack anyone who dares to bring up their shitty acts, in order to keep the word from spreading that they’re indeed shitty people. It’s kind of sad.
Im sure that there are plenty of other streamers /YouTubers who have similar content but who don’t solicit their fans for nudes or cheat on their spouses for some weird self-insert dnd RP, go follow them instead.
No. 1095422
>>1095353This is a bit much, anon.
These losers just cling to each other because they're all desperate for friendship. They clearly don't understand relationships, boundaries, or decency if they idolize Hored, so it makes sense that they're awkwardly looking for acceptance wherever they can get it.
No. 1095495
>>1095255>>1095282>>1095353>>1095422>>1095448I'm going to be a dick here, but all of you are doing the exact thing this guy says we do. Making wild mass guesses about him because he agrees with/likes HOF's posts and doesn't like lolcow. Saying he's "creepy" "doesn't understand boundaries" "must work a miserable job" and "desperate for attention"
just because he said mean things about us makes his accusations that we make up assumptions and say it's fact sound more legit.
No. 1095601
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He'll never apologize for calling Ross abusive cause that would mean he lied.
No. 1095604
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There's so much hypocrisy and lack of self awareness in this that I don't know where to begin.
No. 1095661
>>1095578Plus when people live a somewhat a public life and put more of themselves out there, then there’s more information to glean off of. I’m an anon here, but even in places like Twitter/Tumblr etc, I make it a point to not to put out too much information about myself out for anyone to see.
>>1095601So I guess that means Pedodick really is just a horny sleazeball.
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Milk has been pretty dry so here’s a pun inspired by Holly‘s “my birds are sick which is what they wanted” merch promotion reminding people she has pins or whatever.
It’s a pain in the ass more than ever to find milk on Hored when the replies are almost completely being about this endless cycle of SOM replying to LC anons via Tumblr and anons replying back to SOM here.
No. 1095859
>>1095824I don't know SOM letting it slip that Hored is calling Ross
abusive behind his back is pretty milky.
No. 1095861
>>1095859That's just too good for words, considering Hored really tried to push the narrative that Ross knew and approved of PedoDick and Hoelly fucking around. Hard to push the narrative of him being a supportive husband while also calling him an
abusive punk.
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It's the self-victimization for me.
No. 1096815
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All right everyone, clearly he’s doing fine on money, no need to donate games to him anymore.
No. 1097042
>>1097039
Holly isn't even that much of a gamer in the traditional sense. I don't think she'll even care that much to use the console as he would.
I know she had her let's play channel but you can tell she was only playing a very specific genre of games and none of them were particularly demanding or specific (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I just remember certain lets plays of hers, not all of them)
to be fair there aren't a lot of games yet on the ps5 exclusively that I could see Holly playing
(deleted and including to add: not that I'm calling Holly a fake gamer girl or whatever, just that it doesn't seem like a big purchase that would be a fun bonding moment for them. It's like that one AITA post of the guy who used a bunch of his own money, like 5k or 10k or something insane, so he could buy himself a guitar that he wanted. Of course his partner flipped and he was a whiny baby about it on reddit. Of course you can't compare 600 dollars to 10k, but if you are together and seem to care for each other, that 600 could go towards your rent, your bills, your life, or her birds, for instance)
No. 1097102
>>1095893you know, a gaggle of women paying attention to his every worthless word? better than this greasy basement-dweller has ever had it. you might be onto something anon!
>>1096815i can't stop laughing, he looks six years younger
holly's going to start propping her phone up on the PS5 for selfies, just watch
No. 1097548
>>1097232You mean what a lot of youtubers and twitch streamers did during the great PS5 launch? (The ones that didn't get one for free that is.) It just means he got help locating it/bought it off someone. No one is gifting PS5s, anon.
>>1097528I'm sure you'd buy scalped over priced items too, right? If not seriously, this isn't milk in the slightest.
No. 1097616
>>1097548Does it really matter what I, a non-professional gamer, would do?
Jared is the same person who was e-begging for people's DS games less than two weeks ago. It's ironic that he didn't have the money to just buy those himself (why would he when he can get his fans to give them to him for free?) but he MAGICALLY finds $600+ to spend on a new PS5 that he wants (not needs, since his career revolves around playing older games)
Also, you literally contradicted yourself. In one breath you said "the ones that didn't get one for free that is" and in the next, "no one is gifting PS5s". Which is it?
No. 1097669
>>1097639That's sort of the point, Anon. Sony obviously thought Jared receiving a product didn't stand to bring in any additional purchases that would justify giving him a free console. Instead, he bitched to the right people/fans and shmoozed his way into getting one, likely discounted or free (otherwise he wouldn't have had to point out that 'generous people reached out to help') rather than waiting or shelling out the exorbitant costs on Ebay like the rest of us plebes.
THe picture bragging about getting one - while asking which additional $50-60 games he should get, on instagram is just a weird-ass flex, considering he was just e-begging for DS games (which I'd imagine are significantly cheaper that a $600-700 PS5 setup).
No. 1097818
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Can’t say I feel sorry for him if he doesn’t get invited to cons ever again once we get past this pandemic. Actions have consequences and I’d say him using his e-status or whatever in order to gain nudes from his fans should be enough to where he shouldn’t be invited as a guest to anything ever again.
No. 1097829
>>1097818>"It was the only way I was ever able to get face time with those that support me"You know, except for when you solicited them for nudes.
And when you hooked up with them at cons.
He's really pretending that shit never happened.
No. 1097881
>>1097108His main channel focuses a lot on older games yeah, specially in the Nintendo realm of things and his LP channel seems to be a mixed bag but this is like saying AVGN shouldn't touch any console beyond 1980s despite "retro games" are now up to 2005 consoles.
>>1097055Whether we like it or not, it is indeed a work related expense. Just like people write off their computer builds as such.
>>1097853>But you don't really get to use cons as a breeding ground for your next one-night-stand He, like most people who went to cons, are referring to the pandemic and how -EVERYTHING- is cancelled for the foreseeable future. If you recall even before the shitstorm of drama and DnD aside he hasn't really been to cons much as a solo guest speaker or his own panel. And no, before any scrotes try to say I'm defending him I'm not I'm just saying not EVERYTHING is linked to the aftermath of his idiocy. Why would he keep bringing up DRAMA 24/7? Even hoelly goes quiet about it every now and then lol. Idk maybe I don't understand the logic about wanting him to constantly say: "I got nudes from fans! I cheated on my wife!" every minute of the day like, what purpose does that serve? It'd be a diff story if he were a rapist or murderer trying to pretend he didn't do it. We all know what he did.
Just fyi, he's not the only one that does/did shady stuff at cons, there's been a lot of recent revelations about people popping up constantly, even as recently as mr Flynn, so as much as we dislike the dude, even if it's him it's unfair to think that's LITERALLY all he sees cons as when I can point out no less than 40 people I follow saying similar things who did nothing wrong.
No. 1097916
>>1097881Are you being willfully ignorant? You're saying he's referring to the pandemic despite the fact that PedoWorm HIMSELF says "Even without the state of the world, I don't know if I'll ever get to do this again. I don't know if I'll ever be invited out to a con as a guest to do panels or whatever". You are, in fact, ignoring the man's own words while you trip over yourself to tell us we're being unfair to the sex pest who used cons for one-night-stands that is now bitching about not getting to use cons anymore.
>"Just FYI, he's not the only one that does/did shady stuff at cons"Right, and if this thread were about anyone else, I'd be calling that shit out too. This is a thread about PedoWorm which is why everyone is focusing on the stunts he has pulled.
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>>1097818The one brave soul in that thread to say what most of us are thinking here, lol.
There are plenty of other weirdo youtuber/Twitch streamers out there who didn’t flash their mushroom dick to their followers or use cons to fuck fans or reenact their self-insert DnD RP. He’s a liability, and if I was heading up a con I wouldn’t take the risk bringing him in as a guest.
No. 1098029
>>1098025Exactly. You'd have to justify why you picked PedoWorm, who has the accusations of sleeping with fans and proof of him 'soliciting' nudes of fans, over another less
problematic youtuber/streamer - and there's literally nothing he offers than someone else doesn't.
His personality is literally just "quirky 35+ year old who is trying to keep up with the youths".
No. 1098042
>>1098029If you have a reputation of using your hired position at a con to fuck e-girls then people aren't going to wanna hire you. Shocking, I know.
The idea of him leaving his hotel room with Holly to go sniff after a cosplay girl every night is hilarious, though
No. 1098449
>>1098029
>His personality is literally just "quirky 35+ year old who is trying to keep up with the youths".So… literally
any 'gaming' Twitch streamer/Youtuber pretty much.
No. 1098469
>>1097818
>"What are people resonating with?"Fans these days don't really care about face-to-face interaction with their 'faves', a simple shout-out on Twitch will do.
Also read the room.
Let's remove you from the current situation when it comes to cons & meetups.
With all of these older creators being outed for grooming young/vulnerable fans into sexual relationships the saying "Never meet your idols" hits
a bit different these days.
No. 1098476
>>1097818
>"Not being able to hear the laughter or cheers or any kind of feedback while performing has got me doubting my self."How very relatable, amirite?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of his current fanbase comes off as those 'uwu anxiety' types who would throw up all over themselves if placed in front of a crowd.
No. 1098637
>>1098535>>1098542Yeah, what I basically meant is that Jared is just a dime a dozen when it comes to youtubers/streamers nowadays. Aside from the scandal, there's little to nothing that makes him stand out.
All he has now is his former 'glory'.
No. 1099884
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Hored stans: "Jared never asked for a PS5! He probably paid full price!"
Jared:
No. 1099890
>>1099884Ok the guy is a grade A skeeve but this is clearly a joke.
Stop nitpicking
No. 1099945
>>1099890I must lack a sense of humor then because I fail to see how that is supposed to be anything but begging.
This could have been tweeted by any other streamer/YTer and it would have been just as pathetic
No. 1100081
>>1099893It's literally nitpicking. What in that states: "GIVE ME YOUR PS5 FOR FREE!"? Are people that desperate for milk they're misinterpreting everything? No one said people offered out of the blue the only person who said anything related was they likely SOLD him their pre-order or found one locally and shipped it to him.
You know, what many youtubers/streamers asked people to do? Including Dashie (someone people REALLY like?)
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I found this a little interesting, and a bit sad that the Pedodick stans were screeching at someone for not inviting Pedodick onto their stream. It makes me wonder if this had to do with Jared’s “I miss things ):” post on IG. Despite him having had crowed about not being cancelled (and then hypocritically calling for someone else’s cancellation) I wonder if some streamers/YTer’s are moving past him due to the liability of him having abused his e-fame to solicit his fanbase for sexual gratification. Or maybe because as others have pointed out, he never really seems to do more than the minimum online anyway, posting videos sporadically for example, even before all of the controversy.
Or maybe I’m just tinhatting, lol.
No. 1100234
>>1100197Bit tinfoily in a way yeah, since it's well known PBG and Jared are/were really good friends so you'd THINK there'd be an invite extended, that's the logic I see behind that.
>I wonder if some streamers/YTer’s are moving past him due to the liabilityHighly, Highly, HIGHLY doubt it. Youtubers/streamers tend to latch onto each other and whoever can boost their money/views/merch deals regardless of reaction, hence why people still work with pokimane and alinity. Jared doesn't have push/outreach anymore so there's virtually no reason to really collab lol.
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Awww, did someone's verification application get denied? Poor baby.
I can imagine the scathing apps he has sent since the drama, they definitely are full of "EVERYTHING WAS FALSE ACCUSATIONS I AM A
VICTIM OF CANCEL CULTURE"
>>1100234I mean as much as it seems otherwise there are plenty of people besides us who realise how fucked up what he did was. All it would take is one person in that group PBG played with saying that they are uncomfortable playing with him for him to not get an invite. they just have to be careful since if they say anything remotely public about him in any negative way they will have Holly and his simp army coming after them.
I wouldn't at all be surprised if PBG mentioned inviting him and someone else in the call didnt want him to, especially if there were some ladies in the call
No. 1100308
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>>1100302Self replying, here is the group that made the cut. They are a bunch of his friends which makes it even funnier to me that he didnt have enough clout to make the cut, especially since he has tweeted a couple times now about wanting to join an among us stream
Sure, maybe he was busy that night, but it's way more funny to me to imagine that he didnt make the cut against some indie twitch ladies he simps for
No. 1100427
>>1100302Jared seems to bitch about no one 'reaching out' to him.
Maybe he should have just asked PBG? Last I saw, they seem to be on good terms.
No. 1100713
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Heidi's ebay account was either hacked or mass reported when she went to sell her games. What do you think Hored got a stan with enough tech knowhow to fuck with her trying to make a living?
No. 1100889
>>1100853No one, whenever heidi gets brought up people drop everything including their remaining 2 braincells to defend her to the death even when she's not being attacked. God forbid ebay disabled/deleted etc her shit because of their shitty system and has nothing to do with hored "stans."
Next thing you know her twitch/youtube/etsy etc will have issues that CLEARLY can't be because of the shitty platform itself being stupid.
No. 1100898
>>1100889And whenever someone criticizes your lord and savior Hored, you all give away your last iq point to justify why something is okay for them just because other people do it too.
You're all acting like Hoelly didn't JUST try to claim her birds were sick/dying because of the drama, which is the same shit you're accusing Heidi of claiming (which, btw, she didn't; In fact, she said she didn't know what was going on but that she wasn't going to make allegations)
No. 1100906
>>1100898>And whenever someone criticizes your lord and savior HoredDon't know what logic you're using here since I don't recall liking either of them but it's okay, heidi got brought up so here you are to call anyone not protecting her a hored stan.
>You're all acting like Hoelly didn't JUST try to claim her birds were sick/dying because of the dramaThis has what to do with Heidi posting about her ebay account having issues? Like jesus, we get it you're hardcore whiteknighting for heidi but this ABSOUTELY has nothing to do with that response. It's just hilarious that this is somehow of course the work of hored stans and can't possibly be because ebay has shit policies and she ended up getting caught in crossfire?
Selling old games especially for high prices ESPECIALLY after the whole PS5/GPU debacle put them on scalper shutdown overdrive.
No. 1101070
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Someone pointed this out on TWC and I realize that Holly didn’t create it herself, but why in the fuck would anyone think it’s okay to use the event of the WTC being attacked as something to advertise a podcast?? I do realize that of course crazy tinhatter conspiracy theorists believe it didn’t happen, but it’s an event where many people died traumatically so maybe… use something else??
No. 1101073
>>1101070Like obviously she didnt make this poster but also obviously it is a quote from her from the show. So much for empathy uwu
Before someone gets
triggered, yes I know people make 9/11 jokes all the time, you just would expect better from someone whose brand is kindness and empathy. But hey, 9/11/2001 was nothing compared to 5/9/2019 in her eyes anyway
No. 1102421
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Imagine defending a sex pest so hard that you really have to do some cranial gymnastics to try to convince everyone that soliciting nudes and sex from your fanbase is okay.
No. 1102915
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>>1101096You got to her, anon
No. 1103003
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>>1102915yikes, opposite of a glow up
No. 1103009
>>1103003damn that hair was a lot cuter
tbh I feel like she should go back to that deep red she had, that was her best look so far. It really brightened her skin up while still being a deep shade, unfortunately black hair does not suit everyone when it's bottle black, natural black hair is a totally different undertone to dyed black and if it was your natural shade you'd have the features along with it like dark eyebrows or lashes, she doesn't have either and it washes her out
No. 1103069
>>1103009>>1103058Agreed, she looks honestly really cute with lighter colored hair, or just colored hair in general. She should atleast go for a silver or steel gray instead of deep black
But Strix has edgy emo witch hair so she will never go back
No. 1103131
>>1102977That is her actual undertone but she chooses stupid makeup colors like orange eyeshadow plus pale pink lips and black hair with sharpie brows plus no mascara. She's too busy hoarding parking lot pigeons to look up how to flatter her skin tone.
She didn't always look like this. I have a theory it's part her thinking she actually is Strix and part self-harm by bad makeup- looking as ugly outside as you feel inside. There are a couple of old photos of her out there where she looked sort of nerd-cute with a normal brown bob and makeup that doesn't look like a disease.
No. 1103291
>>1103003She looks so normal here.
>>1103131 has a solid theory about her self-harming with makeup. It sounds stupid to "self harm" by reading lolcow and looking ugly, but considering she claimed to do the former, that's how Holly thinks.
Disclaimer: I equate self-harm with self injury, and think the way Holly uses it to describe reading gossip diminishing to people who do/did SI. So, I have a hard time understanding the way Holly talks.
No. 1103308
>>1103291I dont think self-harm is an inaccurate description of what she does. Constantly reading nonstop hate about yourself is absolutely damaging to your self esteem and mental health in general. Contrapoints talked about it in her Cancel Culture video, which Holly posted everywhere so we know we watched it.
Apparently she just chose to ignore the part where Contra dropped links to ways to block yourself from visiting those sites, since she is here every day, and I'm sure it doesnt help having a group of fan friends like SOM who also keep up here and involve themselves. Hard to move on if you're not trying at all to, ya know?
No. 1103338
>>1103308ayrt. The disclaimer was mostly to avoid people replying arguing that I wasn't using the phrase correctly. Probably to the detriment of my main point, kek, which was to agree with
>>1103131 and especially:
>I have a theory it's part her thinking she actually is Strix and part self-harm by bad makeupSorry for being unclear!
No. 1103414
>>1103390Let me get this straight, she posted an unfiltered pic on IG because cow called her out for shopping, then deleted the pic when cow said she looked like shit?
Imagine letting cow live rent free in your head for YEARS
No. 1103475
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Well fuck me sideways, SOM actually defended Heidi. An anon sent HOF a message, calling her expoitative for posting one of Aries' vetbills and her kofi - and both hof and som called the anon out.
No. 1103532
>>1103475Is he ill? Did he get hacked? Someone check up on him.
>>1103488Cows of a feather
No. 1103637
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>>1103575
It's still there, not sure why yours isn't showing it but he didn't take it down. Also, your description of the post seems less tame than the actual ask.
No. 1103680
>>1103637I deleted my post here, I realized I was looking in the comment section of the wrong post.
Yes, god forbid I get a little pissed off when people go after Heidi for posting a kofi for Aries' medical bills when Hoelly JUST sold and pushed her bs pins to pay for the trash birds medical care and none of them said a word about her doing it.
No. 1103691
>>1103682Exactly. And part of what SadOldSimp doesn't understand about the criticism Holly gets here and why Heidi gets a "free pass" when seemingly doing the same thing.
I'm with Anon, who said people should budget for unexpected vet bills but as Americans, we live paycheck to paycheck. Clearly Holly doesn't, but her standard of living has probably been downsized by the lack of continued revenue. She might have money, but be more insecure about it. Heidi has a shop and alimony, but those are not exactly secure in a city as expensive as Seattle during a pandemic.
People are most likely to help out with vet bills and, hey, why not ask? But Holly doesn't know how to do things without manipulation. I mean why not just say you're stressed about your birds being sick and say your pins will be out soon and help cover medical costs. Instead, she mentions people wishing them dead, which is probably one insane anon message you can delete. She starts to guilt people and that's pretty shitty. Holly is full of toxicity and manipulation that she hardly ever manages to sound genuine, even if she is.
No. 1103700
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>>1102915Unlucky that she has natural “Ariana Grande’s botched lift” brows.
>>1103003Small kek because I’d posted this pic or similar from the same event saying she used to look more “full of life” or something because she didn’t look as shitty compared to these days, but I made the mistake of leaving Ross in so a Ross anon got cRoss about it.
>>1103009I disagree with this, but only because in her current state she could VERY EASILY Zooey Deschanel skinwalk.
Think about it.
It’d be so damn easy for her to straighten her hair, slap on some makeup, and it’d be pretty damn close. Closer than I feel comfortable admitting.
She’ll never do it, but she could.
No. 1103748
>>1103720That's it; Heidi says "Hey, Aries, the cat I post about often that is universally liked? He's sick and vet bills are expensive. Here's where you can donate, if you'd like; No pressure". Hoelly essentially says "OMFG NOW MY BIRDS ARE DYING WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE SAID THEY'D DO, KILL MY BIRDS. THIS IS ALL BECAUSE OF DRAMA THAT I HAD NO CONTROL OVER. BUY MY PINS OR MY BIRDS ARE GONNA DIE!"
Guess which one people aren't total simps are likely to donate to. Hint: It's the less psychotic, guilt-tripping, passive-aggressive one.
No. 1103763
>>1103700oh, oh anon, no…. she couldn't
That's Zoe's natural hair shade. You can tell it belongs to her and with/without makeup it doesn't stand out or make her washed out.
Holly just doesn't suit that black/super dark brown hair. It's fine, I don't either, even if this was some rando person I'd still say this hair doesn't suit them. She is too yellow, she's not pale or pink toned in the slightest. I would call Holly more olive toned than anything, in fact I think she would look much better with a green hair look. A medium to dark cool toned green would really compliment those olive/yellow tones in her skin and bring out her eyes.
and I have a suspicion she specifically doesn't know or care how to take care of herself to find flattering tones or colors because I think Holly is too deeply insecure and prefers to "do what she wants" under the guise of feminism and empowerment against the demands of a society, because she's too embarrassed to admit she has no fucking idea what she's doing
A hair shade shouldn't suit you when you "slap on some makeup", it should look good on you even when you just woke up. I was the same with the black hair; if I wore a full face sure I'd look passable but when the carefully controlled face came off I looked dead and yellow.
No. 1103777
>>1103763Overall she's still unattractive and looks horrible for her age. Anything she does with her hair would just make her slightly more easier on the eyes.
>>1102915Hi Holly
(hi cow) No. 1103794
>>1103680Yeah they both post asking for help with vet bills but atleast Heidi doesnt post her bougie indie beer and coffee shop treats within days of her asking for financial help lmao
Also I feel alot more inclined to go easy on the recently financially independent one with a single pet than the egirl one who has a legitment problem hoarding animals
No. 1103830
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Can we pretty please make the next thread "I'm a whore and deserve to be punished" edition
No. 1103973
>>1103637Holly the bird hoarder manipulates/guilt trips people with year old drama that she was the innocent "
victim" of, to get people to donate money for vet bills for birds she probably got sick cus of her animal hoarding while her boyfriend buys a PS5. Yet hored is "worried" that Heidi is the one lying about fiances.
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>>1103763You make a lot of good points anon, especially about the huge differences that seem small like their skin’s undertones and what would suit Holly.
For me I was thinking in a much more of a “copy her look, but make it suit your features” sense. The thick hair, the face shape similarities, how they both need a good mascara. There is no way Holly could truly pull off a true ZD, but I think a bit of New Girl hipster-y, cutesy kitsch and some ‘Parisian-inspired’ make up could go a loooong way.
> I would call Holly more olive toned than anything, in fact I think she would look much better with a green hair look. A medium to dark cool toned green would really compliment those olive/yellow tones in her skin and bring out her eyes.I think the balayage/dyed curls that almost framed her face did wonders for her. Whatever was going on with her hair back last June looked nice, save her bangs rolling up near her hairline. I feel like she cuts her own bangs, and cuts them while they’re wet.
Even googling “Holly Conrad pretty” is this parade of hack jobs, if she wasn’t doing that to herself she must have been seeing a talented (if not decent) stylist who was cutting her hair to wear curly without expecting Holly to straighten out the uneven lengths.
(Also turned up a photo posted to r/transpassing that I thought was going to be a troll posting Holly’s selfie 2 years ago, but ended up being someone saying the genuinely prettier t-girl looked like Holly kek)
>and I have a suspicion she specifically doesn't know or care how to take care of herself to find flattering tones or colors because I think Holly is too deeply insecure and prefers to "do what she wants" under the guise of feminism and empowerment against the demands of a society, because she's too embarrassed to admit she has no fucking idea what she's doingWhat annoys me is that her house in the tour video looked nice, as if time and care was put into decorating her space. It’s like she is literally refusing to extend that into her art or her looks.
I’m sure it’s been said many times but it’s like her Strix cosplay was “uglier” so she could feel pretty when removing the costume. Funny if so that their fans ended up liking Strix aesthetically despite everything, but I mean besides knowing she’s insecure and clueless about what to do besides feel upset about being insecure I feel we’re (well, me more so) just tinfoiling.
She has no personality, no “self”. She should have ditched her ugly creep fling and Eat, Pray, Love’d or some other life crisis shit. Instead she cozied up to keemy, invaded a psych ward or crisis center, and finger-painted “whore” or “slut” (I cba to remember which).
>>1103777 Anon I want to fix her so badly, I want to give her tips in hopes she looks less droopy by chatting improvements with other farmers that she might take to heart.
It’s almost
triggering. Why walk around looking like a blobfish in a bad wig on purpose?
I’m haunted by her incredibly hooded eyes, her lumpy cheeks that fill out her face to match her strong jaw. That nearly perfect square of a head when she’s wearing straight bobs like her Shep cosplay..
Nah I’m just fucking around now, the stream of SOM posts is way less interesting though.
Has there ever been a successful cow makeover/breakthrough before, though? Mostly they just up the editing from what I’ve seen.
>>1103830Please anything but this, unless her PFP and display name is changed to be one of her sickly bird’s.
Pic related is a bird gimp mask with nobody in it, spoilered just because I think it’s creepy.
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Thinking about this tweet again and how much funnier it became as time went on, I really miss the real milk. Hoelly was the cow that just kept giving.
>>1104444I’ve been following this drama since it broke most likely the same as you because I was always reading the GG threads, if you’re so much better integrated then it’d probably be super easy for you to name all 5 of Heidi’s albums.
TL;DR
> "I'm a whore and deserve to be punished" editionAs a title alone it almost feels like it’s indulging in some humiliation kink she has, but it’s not even that deep. Just a random stranger’s opinion that it would come off less pervy if there was an accompanying visual joke.
𝘐𝘯 𝘢𝘥𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯.
No. 1104842
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So apparently Pedodick is officially a video game charity case now. I guess if he’s not getting sexual gratification from his fans, he’s got to get something.
>>1104444I read it all, I thought it had some interesting points.
>>1104794That tweet is hilarious, omg. “It’s between them.” As she’s been fucking wormdick behind Heidi’s back and pretending to be her friend to her face.
No. 1104879
>>1104842Could he BE more pathetic? This is a dude who made his living off of streaming/playing old video games and just dropped anywhere from $500-700 on a new ps5 and yet he's ebegging his stupid fans for their FREE games?
Jesus christ, he's a bottomless pit of "let's see how far I can abuse my fame".
No. 1104993
>>1103815When was this? I don't follow hoelly but I'm curious to know how many birds since I know a lot of people with 5+ birds but that's basically a whole family generation from their first 2 they had years ago.
>>1104879When will people realize it's nothing new to send shit to youtubers and streamers? Every single one of them has a po box for people to send shit in WITH a plug of their own or "we'll do fanmail (insert day, usually friday) so send in your stuff!" so I hope you hate every one of them "abusing their fame" to have fanmail, don't just cherry pick.
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>>1104993I think you’re the one cherry picking here. There’s a difference between “Hey guys, if you want to send me a gift, here’s my PO Box” versus “Hey guys, send me your old games so that I can increase my collection, here’s what I own.” It’s disgusting that he’s using his fans for his own gain again.
No. 1105094
>>1105067I think another difference is that for game grumps, they would upload daily videos of them playing games sent in by fans and post their name/say thanks. So people would send in games for the chance to see an LP of it. Jared is just adding them to his personal collection
He is by FAR not the only youtuber doing this but that doesn’t mean it’s not weird
No. 1105176
>>1105094To be fair, Jared did say "hopefully I can play these on stream or on my channel!", but one would assume that if he's getting games for all of the systems, there's just no way he can post all of them on his channel.
Plus, like other anon said, there's a difference between "Hey, here's a PO box if you want to send me stuff" and "Hey, here's a list of games I have so that you don't send me doubles while I pad my collection for free"
No. 1105196
>>1105181did….did you miss the part of his instagram post where he said "Should I make a list of my collections available? I have one made already for NES and SNES. I could do it for EVERY system eventually"?
That, to me, says he plans on continuing to allow his fans to send games to him so that he doesn't have to spend his own money buying them (certain NES and SNES games are EXPENSIVE due to age and rarity, especially if they're in good condition with original boxes, etc.).
This now goes beyond "Every streamer gets sent shit sometimes!" and directly into "I know you're all dumb enough to keep sending me expensive games for free, so here's the ones I already have". He's getting greedy, and once again abusing his fans generosity to get free shit.
No. 1105671
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>>1104993Officially a bird hoarder. 30 pigeons plus her chickens and other random birds.
No. 1105767
>>1105671I feel almost exhausted with how Holly tries to saint herself, only to show she's ignorant and harmful.
She often introduces, sick unknown birds to a flock of 30. Anyone who deals with livestock would slap the shit out of her for fucking over a larger population. Birds are especially susceptible to disease. Epidemiologists that work with regulatory agencies usually blame outbreaks of live stocks origin to backyard birds. I know Seattle isn't exactly farm country, but let's hope she doesn't breed diseases and introduce that to wild life populations.
No. 1106004
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I'm dying I hope he keeps up with the fashion posts
No. 1106007
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Hope this gives the rest of you a chuckle
No. 1106018
>>1106004>>1106007Holy shit he looks fucking TERRIBLE
Lol at the blur filter on his face too
No. 1106152
>>1106007What the fuck is that zipper even FOR? Who told him this was a good look?
He should stick to those shiny blue button-up shirts.
No. 1106216
>>1106004>>1106007Padded shoulders dude. You'll look
much less like a spoon with a pipe-cleaners for arms.
No. 1106222
>>1106018Him and his mistress both love abusing blurry face filters. Gotta look young if you wanna get young egirl puss on the side, I suppose
Sorry but if you're gonna try to post serious pictures of your serious fashion then it shouldn't be blurred so fucking much. He had the confidence to share his dick to any teenager with a tumblr account but he cant post his bare face.
I agree with
>>1106119, it's not a crime to be ugly and people who are shouldn't be banned from social media. But they also shouldn't lie to themselves and others lmao. Post your normal self, my man, you are in a serious relationship anyway so why would it matter if people find you attractive (/s, we all know why it matters)
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>>1106248I can't stop laughing…I had to make this. Expectation vs. Reality
No. 1106311
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No. 1106319
>>1106311to be fair, he didn't outright call Ross an abuser. He just suggested that Ross and Heidi deserved each other (and he DID refer to Heidi as
abusive so do with that what you will) which is SO MUCH BETTER, Anon /s
No. 1106339
>>1106304Yeah, when I think of someone who’s a “king” I don’t think of a person who pushed his lewd pictures on his fans on Tumblr (who may or may not have been of legal age) in order to tempt them into sending lewds/nudes of their own.
>>1106311SadOldSimp doing what he does best, hypocrisy.
No. 1106552
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Sage for no milk, this just REALLY reminded me of a certain someone
No. 1106589
>>1106552Hoelly's problem isn't that she wants to be a
victim - She's just desperate for attention, be it good, bad, or anything in between. She brings up the drama so much because THAT is what gets her the most attention and asspats.
No. 1106615
>>1106552This is a good description of a lot of people, but it's not really groudbreaking. Covert narcissism is partly described as craving admiration and lacking empathy. Usually also a
victim complex. I can't find it but I recall an article that covert narcissism is on the rise probably in correlation to social media and virtue signaling.
But yeah. Good descriptor, but not a "new personality construct"
No. 1106724
>>1106250My god, anon, that's hilarious.
He wishes he could be as stylish as Hiddleston.
No. 1106960
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Old habits die hard.
No. 1106964
>>1106963Right, he is literally just making a star wars reference because of the content of the original tweet (her showing off General Grevious earnings)
Not everything is milk yall
No. 1107104
>>1106964NTA but how is
Hello there a SW reference? Basic phrases don't become Star Wars references just because a character said it. In context of his past and also anyone who has seen creeper guys commenting on women's accounts, it looks bad.
No. 1107113
>>1107104It really doesn't, anon. Basic phrases
literally become references if you know the context. Nothing was perverted in the pic, nothing perverted said in the pic, no "hints" of anything etc, this is exactly what a previous anon said about how holly and jared can do
anything and people will try to pull milk from it when it doesn't exist.
To educate you, Hello there has literally become a meme in star wars fandom.
No. 1107114
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>>1106960>>1106964It is just a starwars reference but of course holly had to show up and defend jared's honor immediately anyway
No. 1107119
>>1107114I mean…
>>1107104>>1106960When you have idiots like this and people on Twitter saying the usual shit, it's not "defending honor" it's pointing out something people clearly doesn't get and trying to start shit again lol.
No. 1107121
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>>1107119Kayla or Jared could've handled it, Holly replied to another comment that was already yelling at the person talking shit about jared
Link to chain if anyone wants to see/take a bigger cap
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProJared/status/1337451459328135169She couldn't just post the gif or agree with the other person, it HAS to be a comment that implies there's a whole army of ~keyboard warriors~ harassing a grown ass man who can't defend himself somehow and using language that clearly wants to instigate a stupid twitter slapfight
Watch her next post be whining about how we should all be nice and she's so tired of drama
There's literally one response to him, they could've all just ignored it
No. 1107159
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>>1107121She’s not wrong about the creeper part. To partially defend the poster, I know I don’t know everyone’s friends/families of all the people I follow on Twitter, but it also didn’t take much research to learn that this is one of Hoelly’s friends. They still could have ignored it/muted/blocked the person instead of hanging up on them. Cue the next post from Hoelly crying when her follower count goes down again.
No. 1107359
File: 1608045903422.png (37.97 KB, 589x273, Screenshot_132.png)
-cue comments about "HEIDI BROUGHT UP THE DIVORCE AGAIN TOO! THATS TOTALLY THE SAME AS HOELLY SAYING DRAMA MURDERED HER BIRDS!" /s-
No. 1107514
>>1107121lol imagine being close friends with holly and she sleeps with your husband.
they can see how it’s shitty to suggest Jared would be trying something on with hollys friends but not that it was shitty of holly to try something on with Jared while she was claiming to be heidis friend
Blows my mind that these 30 something mental health gurus can carry on with their nonsense while clearly having no concept of boundaries or accountability
No. 1107553
>>1107514Because "its different" with Hored. That will always be the reason. It's different because they love each other, it's different because they were both in
abusive relationships, it's different because Striath, etc. Anything you accuse them of they will have a million excuses and reasons behind it. Its why they had to make Heidi the monster for asking them to stop, it's why they say Jared never cheated even though he was fucking fans and sexting Holly behind Heidi's back way before he ever "attempted to leave her", it's why he was in the right for stopping his "abuser" from attending a con even though she had her own hotel room and plans with friends. All they do is lie lie lie and believe all of it because if they dont then they'd have to accept what they did.
Neither of them are sorry for their affair or abuse against Heidi, if anything they're proud of it. Jared is only sorry for the tumblr (maybe, his apologies are full of "I'm sorry YOURE offended") and Holly is only sorry for the Etika shit and accusing Heidi of mental illnesses (again maybe, her apologies were never directed at the woman she lied about, just towards the people calling her out for it)
They and Hored scans can pretend they're accountable all they want, but none of their owning up counts when they are cherry picking their crimes to make themselves feel better. That's really it, if they admit to themselves what they did to Heidi then they are gonna feel like shit, so why would they do that when they can just fuck on a chicken poop covered bed and pretend like Heidi is the evil Strahd trying to kill their Striath endgame uwu
No. 1107750
>>1107121I haven't checked in on Holly's twitter (or this thread) in a while and… wow. She has 200k followers, but only gets one or two comments per post? I'm not enough on twitter to know how bad or good that is, but it sure looks real bad when people with fewer followers get more interratcion.
She sure did dig a deep hole for herself.
No. 1107822
File: 1608077027250.png (20.14 KB, 956x152, Good Personhood.png)
Saw this the other day & it reminded me of Holly, her "#BeKind" schtick, & why no one wants to hold her accountable for anything because she's "So nice" (to them)
No. 1107840
>>1107121>>1107114Nice save Holly! Now Jared will
appreciate you scouring his mentions if you make it look like you only did it to defend him against run-of-the-mill internet trolls!
No. 1107852
File: 1608078440675.png (43.95 KB, 608x236, kfgoestoebay.png)
I don't get this post on KF. Is it even necessary? Like, "Let's link this abusive bitch's Ebay account here so that people can peruse it & possibly buy something! That'll show her!"
No. 1107864
File: 1608079184516.png (51.68 KB, 392x570, goodkindperson.png)
Update: It was Heidi - Heidi killed Holly's birds.
-Bonus comment from that kid who took over their mom's twitter account to simp for Hored-
No. 1107866
File: 1608079362700.png (200.6 KB, 588x624, FUCKYOUYOUHOE.png)
>>1107864Speaking of said 'kid'
No. 1107874
File: 1608079912515.png (83.66 KB, 596x1236, wherethefuckareyourparents.png)
>>1107866
>"This is not meant to insult Heidi in anyway, this is just a joke i made.">"Amber Heard the 2nd">"Heidi should just change her twitter name to "Amber Heard 2" lol. "Holy Targeted-Harassment Batman…
No. 1107881
File: 1608080285060.png (32.47 KB, 592x418, heidi the feral.png)
What was it Holly said? Oh yeah…
Die mad about it.
No. 1107887
>>1107881Additionally, "Heidi The Feral" sounds like a pretty badass username tbh…
I just find it hilarious that the people who's side supposedly 'won' are still mad at someone for having to gall to say their faves aren't 100% perfect & that funnyman gamer's fans never knew what was going on behind closed doors.
Weird isn't it? How someone's fans somehow know them
better than the person who
lived with them for several years…?
No. 1107888
File: 1608080894715.png (27.82 KB, 756x258, scarletho.png)
>>1107881…Also, peep the 'Likes'
Such a
kind, caring &
wholesome group!
No. 1107911
>>1107888If someone tweeted the same thing saying PedoJared/ProCheater or Hoelly/Misstrix then these folks would be clutching pearls and sending death threats in a heartbeat lmao
Also Scarletmoth is it weird knowing you exchanged nudes with and sexted your YouTube idol/friend/close Friend's boyfriend in the same period you were all convincing him his wife was abusing him and that he should leave her for Holly? I wonder if her and Holly thought nudes would heal his poor aboosed soul
No. 1107914
File: 1608083369280.png (17.75 KB, 516x188, implausible.png)
(From Tumblr)
>"They act like it’s so unimaginable for Jared to try something on Kayla since she is Holly’s friend when like, he had no problem pursuing Holly, who claimed to be Heidi’s friend for quite some time "
THIS.
I'm sure Heidi thought it was 'unimaginable' for Jared to 'try something on Holly' back when they were all friends.
No. 1107926
>>1107852Yeah, I don’t get this either. The games are rightfully hers, so she can do whatever she wants with them.
>>1107914Yep, exactly this. A leopard can’t change its spots, so it wouldn’t be far fetched to think that Jared may try it again.
No. 1107930
>>1107926Once a Cheater, Always a Cheater
Holly probably thinks she's 'different' but she's probably doing all of the same stuff that Heidi did to appease him, like playing the 'cool wife/gf' & letting him swing his dick, but sooner or later, that won't be enough for him anymore.
No. 1107938
>>1107874>"song I used, it's Fuck It (I Don't Want You Back) by Eamon"I don't think this is a kid anymore; The only people who know that song are millenials which just makes their ranting even sadder.
>"They can cause someone to commit suicide"Is this the new "snake emojis will make me kill myself and its all your fault!"?
No. 1108092
>>1107951>>1107953She also told Mr Petition that she is asexual but would still frequently sext and exchange nudes with Jared, especially whenever he was down (aka all the time since he was so abused and battered)
What's with the women in his life considering him the most emotionally fragile man alive? Even Heidi did too, it's like they all think he is made of glass and the only way to safely handle him is to buffer every message with a tit pic.
Wonder if it's weird for Holly knowing that she has surrounded herself with people are are more attractive than her AND who have sexted her boyfriend. I'm sure it doesnt kill her inside at all
No. 1108160
>>1108092It doesn't kill her. Not yet.
However, since Jared will need
someone to blame when things go south, I wouldn't be surprised if one of Holly's besties ends up excommunicated first, before he has her convinced that
she's the problem.
No. 1108169
>>1108092
>What's with the women in his life considering him the most emotionally fragile man alive? Even Heidi did too, it's like they all think he is made of glass and the only way to safely handle him is to buffer every message with a tit pic.Manipulation.
He offers a shoulder to cry on, especially for women.
Emotional investment can be a powerful thing.
Remember, he was there for you, so you'd
better be there for him or give him what he wants, or you're a heartless abuser!
No. 1108177
>>1107955That whole debacle still kills me. That was like some political shit; "Join us at noon when we drop a total BOMBSHELL! - Wait, I've just been told this could have legal ramifications… But trust me folks, it's
so bad you'll be hating our opponent for life!!!"
No. 1108278
File: 1608138098341.jpeg (277.73 KB, 758x1416, D073A297-2032-4E98-A34F-A10185…)
People don’t even have to mention PedoDick’s name and this guy shows up to harass them. How pathetic.
No. 1108298
>>1108278>most accusations have been deletedoh for fuck's sake lol. Jared and his sad lil posse can keep crying if they like, but they have to face the fact that what he's done is not going away. There's a reason everyone shuns him and thinks he's a sexual predator, and nothing he's currently doing is going to change that. I bet it kills these people (Jared included) that his reputation is done for good
And before someone decides to defend him or excuse his conduct as a mistake, it takes hard work and real apologies to make people forget the mistakes you make. All he keeps saying is "Well everyone else got it wrong!!!" and even after a fucking year and a half his entire defence consists solely of obfuscations and denials.
TL;DR it's not enough to say you're a good person, you've to act like it too
And if you've been spotted being a sleazy creep, it's going to color literally everything you do from then on, so continuing to tweet stuff that can be construed as sleazy towards your "friends" doesn't help your case kek
No. 1108320
File: 1608141273822.png (115.25 KB, 584x566, projonny.png)
Getting REAL fucking tired of people equating ProJared with Johnny Depp…
No. 1108329
File: 1608142149902.png (31.66 KB, 548x220, believejaredonly.png)
Glad some people still have enough sense to point it out
No. 1108339
>>1107866this is what the BE KIND mentality teaches kids, so long as you keep yelling a shitty excuse for yourself – it's a joke! I'm being kind! I'm mentally ill! it's a social experiment! it's COMMENTARY not bullying – then you can do whatever you want.
>>1104993something people seem to miss in this thread is that, no not necessarily everything is milk on it's own, but in context it may still milky. e begging is cringey but nothing new or unique to hored, it's milk in the context of jared because he basically reduced the accounts of his underage accusers to "well I did the bare minimum but LOOK they take commissions so THEY'RE EBEGGING so nothing they say can be taken seriously!" so he's hypocritical as fuck (on top of it just being embarrassing with how he talks about overcoming cancel culture and overall still making a good living and not needing fan donations + the narrative they push of heidi being a gold digger)
No. 1108368
File: 1608143751277.png (55.27 KB, 466x566, johnny=jared.png)
>>1108320Oh, I see how it is. You cannot defend Johnny Depp while condemning ProJared because they HAVE to be one in the same in order for this flimsy narrative to work! Step in line Geoff!
No. 1108372
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Kid, please consider the fact that neither Holly, Jared, or even SadOldMagician will give your pathetic tweets the time of day.
No. 1108975
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Jared’s latest fashion post
No. 1108976
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It’s like a child’s communion or baptism bracelet
No. 1108978
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No. 1109153
File: 1608230907375.png (169.48 KB, 1234x703, Screenshot_141.png)
>>1109102About that etsy thing….
No. 1109178
>>1087870not to be that guy replying to a month-old post going ackshually, but city pigeons aren't wild animals
they are domesticated animals that have just been feral for many generations
No. 1109240
>>1109179Exactly. It’s the same as those sad situations where people hoard cats, dogs, etc. They’re domesticated too, but it’s not healthy to have that many animals in such small spaces.
>>1109153 Oh wow, this is HILARIOUS. It’s literally from Etsy, lol.
No. 1109389
>>1109153to be perfectly fair, the font is ever so slightly different, so this isn't the exact one Jared's wearing - but the general consensus is they are most typically designed for women. Dudes want masculine shit with paracord or leather-like materials - not a silver bangle.
Regardless, it's still some hipster faux positivity bullshit you'd sooner see on sassy teenagers and not a 35+ year old man who violated covid shutdown orders to shop at a fucking garage sale
No. 1109474
>>1109389Probably because one looks to be a render/photoshop of sorts while the other one is of the genuine article.
There is no way this is a different bracelet, the arrows are even the same.
No. 1109530
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Oh look, idiots that keep on crying to HOF about what’s said here contradicting themselves as usual. If they’re in lockdown, then that means people shouldn’t be having or going to fucking garage sales. Lockdown means stay the fuck home.
No. 1109613
>>1109530That whole blog exists because of this board not the other way around. But us laughing at the spastics known as Hored is "bitching and and moaning" not the tards defending a cow buying a cheapass little girls bracelet he could have safely bought on esty.
Also, lol looks like you
triggered that anon.
No. 1109763
>>1109757holup, how is staying inside your own house safer than being outdoors where there's other people you can't control the behavior of? Maybe it's safer outdoors if you're a lot of people so you can spread out, but you can't tell me with a straight face that staying in your own controlled home is less safe than putting yourself in contact with other people
for a garage sale of all things, not even some important business
No. 1109785
>>1109757No, I wouldn't because deadly viruses don't give a fuck if it's heidi or jared; It'll latch onto and infect and potentially kill ANYONE. I'd be giving Heidi just as much shit for being so fucking stupid as to think a garage sale is worth potentially killing someone.
You can defend Jared against a lot of the shit we talk about on lolcow - not risking infection for a stupid ass bracelet that he wanted to post on instagram, of all things.
No. 1109789
File: 1608308177280.png (25.51 KB, 922x205, Screenshot_142.png)
These are the current Washington state guidelines. Outdoor gatherings are limited to 5 people - not at a time, but total. With a garage sale being a revolving door of god knows how many people coming in and going out, the risk of transmission is HIGH. PedoDick getting bored and going to a garage sale is not a necessary, mandatory risk to be taken.
No. 1109835
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>>110980I looked up the full document and this is the fitness portion. Your conclusion would suggest only one class is run a day for 5 people.
I'm not suggesting that it's not safer to stay home. But to suggest he broke social distancing guidelines by attending something run by someone else is mind-numbing.
No. 1109862
File: 1608315399522.jpg (99.33 KB, 1628x937, fitness.JPG)
>>1109842Imagine just assuming you're correct about something and not verifying. Since you won't check, I did the work for you and here's a Gym in Seattle's class schedule, limited for sure but they're doing more than 1 per day. Took 5 minutes to find one.
>>1109840I have no idea how to explain to you that you can personally take action to be appropriately social distanced while still doing things, despite there being idiots out there. Bring disinfecting wipes, keep your distance from other people, wear a mask, don't touch anything you haven't verified is disinfected.
No. 1109871
>>1109862But the original argument was more than 5 people per class not more than one class per day. You’ve proved it’s 5 people per class so… good on you for self-owning yourself I guess?
>>1109869Go away Gavin White.
No. 1109997
File: 1608327828060.jpeg (161.57 KB, 828x1384, E4EDC77D-6032-4DE9-B3A3-31152F…)
Oh, but I thought he wasn’t cancelled because they sold those cancelled t-shirts a month later, remember everyone? He survived cancel culture y’all!
No. 1110049
>>1110033That's just it. Her and Jared BOTH bring up the drama when their twitter/twitch/instagram numbers start to drop because it's the instantaneous rush of followers and the "YOU WERE WRONGED BY YOUR
ABUSIVE WHORE OF AN EX!" ego boost they're looking for. There is literally NOTHING memorable about either of them at this point other than "Hey, isn't that that dude who fucked his buddy's wife and then solicited nudes from his fans?".
No. 1110059
>>1110055It….it literally takes one quick look at the stats to see a drop in numbers..? It's not "stalking their numbers" when it's just "Hoelly posted about the drama, let me just take a peak and yep, she lost x amount of followers"
Nobody has to be desperate for milk with Hored. Since the drama started, they've never remained silent about the drama for longer than a couple of weeks (at least on Holly's end; Jared disappears periodically).
No. 1110072
Look here, if Hored cared about giving a nuanced take on this they could easily say:"Sure that garage sale probably followed the proper safety precautions but there's still a risk, Jared should have just bought that bracelet online it's safer that way." But don't expect that level of reasonable thinking from Hored. He's is always in the right with them to some capacity
>>1109916This just confirms that Jared knows jack shit about jewelry and men's fashion. Sure jewelry is becoming more varied now but nine times out of ten when you see a solid sliver band with a minimalist design it's for women.
No. 1110074
File: 1608332995517.png (197.55 KB, 689x1259, heidihateblog.png)
At least anons are calling out heidiofuckhead's blog for what he is. Imagine running a blog dedicated to giving "sick burns" to lolcow and Heidi but your only claim to fame is one of Jared's posse likes your posts. Hored themselves don't even acknowledge his blog, and that's the true humor in it.
No. 1110076
>>1110074if you're going to go after HOF, you have to go after trashwitchcoven/hollycomrade too since they do the same shit. either way, not super milky other than occasionally getting to see SOM do shit like "Heidi and ross deserve each other" flip to "I never said ross was
abusive"
No. 1110178
>>1110104When did she "literally bitch about losing thousands of followers daily"? She's not even losing that many, anybody can check her social blade and see she's losing less than 50 a day average. Maybe people will take our
valid complaints about hored seriously if people stop majorly overexaggerating details just to make hored look worse off.
No. 1110188
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>>1110178Maybe not literally daily, but she did bring this up pretty recently.
No. 1110239
>>1110207her social blade shows a loss of 1300 followers in the last 30 days. so she actually is hemorrhaging followers.
you know, maybe is she made meaningful, creative or cool content. not just the same uwu mental health my birds are dying im a sad sick tweets every day people would want to stay and interact with her brand.
No. 1110361
>>1110244Because everytime she posts something people remember they're still subbed so they unsub or unfollow. Instead of figuring out how to mend her broken image she doubles down on being an innocent
victim for the millionth time which people find annoying and she hemorrhages more followers.
No. 1110363
>>1110207Yeah but Holly uses any excuse to rehash the drama and play her
victim card. If it not that then it's her birds being sick, a bad brain day, or something else.
No. 1110389
>>1110363This. It's always negativity with Hoelly. If she makes something even vaguely positive and gets even just ONE negative comment but a dozen good replies, she'll focus on the one negative and spin it into somehow being a coordinated harassment campaign and jump right back into the "woe is me, I'm a
victim of an incident over which I had no control! I fell puss first onto PedoDick!!"
No. 1110423
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>>1110389Yep. She just keeps on going. She can cry about cancel culture all she wants, but nothing is going to wash “I used my fans for sexual gratification” off of Pedodick no matter how hard she tries.
No. 1110443
>>1110423my favorite part is how they
keep saying they were "cancelled". nah bitch your boyfriend literally got caught sending his dick to anything with an internet connection
No. 1110523
>>1110188because of the drama? lol that was a year and a half ago with a fucking world pandemic in the middle, the people who still have concerns about THE DRAMA are either trolls or, well, us, and neither groups would give 1 cent to her.
maybe pretending to be a mental health guru when you have a pretend degree in hogwarth's studies was not the best move to begin with? idk just a thought
No. 1110633
File: 1608403662087.jpg (175.21 KB, 1062x531, 1562.jpg)
Honest question, what is an art doll?
No. 1110648
>>1110633Art dolls are dolls that aren't meant as toys, such as ball-jointed dolls, porcelain dolls, or sculpted dolls.
Though I can't help but feel like she's specifically referring to the Tumblr-Witch-Gone-Etsy trend of selling overpriced poppets or voodoo dolls with passive-aggressive descriptions.
No. 1110680
>>1110674It does sound similar, but I won't fault Holly for finally taking her business seriously. I just don't know why she keeps asking what people want to see rather than making the content she WANTS to make and finding the market that wants to BUY the same thing.
Sure, she can market her content to what her fans want - but she'll burn out on it like she has when she dropped Trash Witch Coven and moved on to We Crowing Hens (even though the content was exactly the same)
No. 1110699
>>1110648Doubtful, it's been popular since long before Tumblr was a thing and what popularity dolls retained unless you're like a 6 year old wanting barbies still.
>>1110680>I just don't know why she keeps asking what people want to see rather than making the content she WANTS to make and finding the market that wants to BUY the same thing. Largely because every creator has to curate to algorithms and what people may want to see from them even if it's just a stepping stone. There's a reason every creator does "the same thing" eventually, even ones who normally doesn't dip their toes into x type of content.
No. 1110785
File: 1608414662539.jpg (163.76 KB, 1080x1366, _20201219_211958.JPG)
Is he wearing a ladies long hoodie… Is he just stealing hoellys clothes now
No. 1110841
>>1110785I've never seen someone wear so many layers and somehow manage to look thinner than they actually are
>>1110815I think his gamer-hunch posture is partially to blame for that, though it doesn't help that he apparently can't be bothered to blur the background properly
No. 1110924
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>>1110815He always says the same shit in these ‘fashion’ posts too, that his clothing defaults to grey and black, blah blah blah. They’re very uninspiring, and if I was looking for a model he’s definitely not very exciting. Plus I wouldn’t pick someone who solicited his fanbase for nudes, that sure as fuck doesn’t look good on any agency.
No. 1111027
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>>1110785If you cropped his face you could definitely group this photo in with “winter looks for women” on Pinterest.
Idk why he always is wearing things to bring more attention to how thin he is, but then again I’m sure since his nose has been getting all the nutrients to grow big and strong there’s nothing left for a proper thought to fully form.
Out there looking like Ms Fowl.
No. 1111111
File: 1608450288998.png (71.48 KB, 556x464, Screenshot 2020-12-20 at 1.11.…)
>found this new blue scarf
where did you "find" it, jared? in a store?
i may be nitpicking but it sure sounds like he's avoiding saying he's buying a bunch of shit. he definitely understands what it looks like when he begs for rare games and then goes and drops money on random garbage
No. 1111602
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>>1111420Oh, so is this what this was referring to then? Interesting that she didn’t mention significant others as well, just friends and colleagues.
No. 1111777
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>>1109997Tried to figure out how exactly she “did the work of taking responsibility”… then I got to the second half and it all made sense
No. 1111778
>>1111777>"need to get stabilized"Hoelly spent time in a literal mental hospital and came out less stable than she was before. Is this just her way of saying she can never be critiqued?
>"Prevents them from doing the work of taking responsibility"That's such a load of shit. Quit shoving the blame for your lack of admitting how fucked up your actions were onto everyone but yourself, Hoelly.
No. 1111856
>>1111602..Context is more towards friends/people you know/work with, it doesn't have a romantic undertone lol. I'm all for wanting more milk but this ain't anything.
>>1111778Surprisingly anon, US mental health centers are notoriously shitty so even if it's hoelly, it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't do shit or made her worse.
>>1111847This, when jared was hiding out we pieced everything together after the fact.
No. 1111861
>>1111778Yeah, exactly. There was no “unable to take responsibility” when they both just straight up chose not to take any responsibility. Hoelly still goes on and cries about how she’s a
victim in drama she “had nothing to do with” when she had everything to do with it, and Pedodick never legitimately apologized for using his efame to get nudes from his fanbase, forcing lewds/nudes on fans, or fucking and leaving fans at cons. If they had both just had some accountability for their actions, they might have been able to get past it, but instead they keep bringing up the drama when subs/money starts getting low so they can get pity donations.
No. 1111874
>>1111602this sounds more fetishising than supportive
>>1111777okay but she still has plenty of support and much more of a platform than she deserves?
like she clearly has a big group a friends irl who support her, and her return youtube videos and streams didn't seem to be doing so bad if she just kept up with them and stopped victimizing herself by dragging out the drama, she still has a decent chunk of patreon change plus fans like guac and sadold who will probably go broke keeping her afloat
she's just mad she doesn't have the full reputation and audience she had before, but that's a privilege and not a right, holly, you shouldn't get to abuse your platform and keep it if you care about accountability (yeah, i know she doesn't really).
No. 1112074
>>1111856Yeah, I didn’t really think it was milk either, but the anon here
>>1111420 seemed to be implying that Pedodick was going by Them/They pronouns now.
No. 1112125
>>1111777
>"The cancel campaign">"The mob"THIS right here is the problem. Othering people who don't agree with your actions as 'haters' or 'the mob' is detrimental to your own development as a person, because at that point, you've just convinced yourself that it's all just some sort of conspiracy created to take you down. It is not. People complain about shit they barely know anything about
all the damn time.
>"It is also possible that they are being lied about or that they are being targeted for interpersonal conflict"So… like you did to Heidi? Just because you didn't do it publicly doesn't mean it
didn't impact her in a big way, & I seriously doubt that Jared really told you
everything about her, her life, her family, etc…
No. 1112138
>>1112125Looking through Twitter it
does look like Heidi kinda
was part of their little 'circle' up until 2018 - when their marriage started falling apart.
Yeah, getting 'cancelled' by the public sucks, but finding out that people you actually KNEW & TRUSTED personally had been exchanging one-sided rumors about you that lead to them actively
shunning you without even dignifying you with a reason why?
That is a
whole different hell on it's own.
No. 1112139
>>1111777"You don't need to get into the reasons why they are being targeted" Really? Stopped reading right there. I swear this knee jerk reaction to this "cancel culture" shit is just assholes who are mad that their being held accountable for the awful way they treat the people around them and abuse their power. In comming Hored stans twisting themselves into pretzels to defend this awful take.
I guess people should hold forever hold Jared's hand and not the people Jared harassed and took advantage of sexually
No. 1112179
>>1112139Yep. It’s not cancel culture, it’s accountability for your actions culture. Some people just can’t ever take accountability for what they’ve done, even if they know it’s wrong.
>>1112125Remember when Hoelly called Heidi “unfixable” and then didn’t want to apologize directly to her? It’s shit like that where maybe that’s why Hoelly’s following has been gradually dropping. And seeing as how Pedodick didn’t tell Heidi everything, the person he was married to, it wouldn’t be surprising if he hasn’t told Hoelly most everything either. Just taking bits and pieces and letting her know about only certain things, I wouldn’t put that past him.
No. 1112335
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>>1111777She also posted these:
(1/3)
No. 1112343
>>1112335I agree that harassment is wrong, people shouldn’t be actively harassing Hoelly or Pedodick. Just as people shouldn’t be harassing Heidi. But they (Hored) also need to recognize their own shitty behavior, acknowledge it and work in bettering themselves and showing that they’ve changed for the better. Instead they just lash out and play the
victim, insisting that all this is happening to no fault of their own. Which is just not a good look.
No. 1112657
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>>1112576You ever have that one friend who keeps pulling the same shit & gets
genuinely shocked every time it blows up in their face?
…It's kinda like that.
No. 1114026
>>1112479I guess by Holly's logic we should have jumped to defend people like Harvy Weinstein and the pedos in the fgc because being "cancelled" on the internet is worst than the crimes they committed. This "anti cancel culture" nonsense is really just anti accountability for people who have power and a way to engage in passive
victim blaming and make them feel unsafe. All of these things Holly has done recently. Friend forces SA
victim to RP rape? Defend him not the
victim he retraumatized. As if Holly gives a fuck about targeted harassment where was she when her friends were harassing that guy? Shrugging her shoulders because he blocked her, and seeing her reaction he was right to do it.
No. 1114928
File: 1608937907788.jpg (62.19 KB, 195x238, heidigrandma.jpg)
Looks like she has grandma jowls now kek
No. 1114948
>>1114928Where though? Seriously, I don’t see it.
>>1114903Good. He needs to stay the fuck away from DnD and MG:TG circles.
No. 1114991
>>1114954I think
>>1114928 is trying to say the makeup on Heidi's cheekbones with the lighting of the room makes it look like she has sagging skin there, like older people get (don't shoot, I'm only trying to see the pic from that anon's pov) I don't think the lighting in the picture was good for the picture and it's not too flattering, but it's not like Heidi's ugly.
No. 1115140
File: 1608966120614.jpg (109.11 KB, 1200x935, Shadbase projared_f9f7e1_70868…)
>>1114928Hey but Heidi HOF anon (and I know you came from there based on a post made there about Heidi's appearance with a similar insult and writing style) getting nitpicky about one image doesn't change the fact that Holly and Jared are objectively unattractive even in filtered images.
There's a reason why even the kiwi farms (who hate Heidi) don't deny that Heidi looks better than Holly and recently said Jared is ugly and has a horrible fashion sense.
There's a reason why when the drama first went down fanart like this was made. Heidi even said she finds people with usual features (Jared) attractive. And when the two were married Jared would brag about how Heidi looks like a irl anime girl, he hides Holly in comparison. This isn't favoritism, if a place that HATES Heidi can acknowledge this then you guys should too. It's a common opinion of people all over the majority of the internet even now.
People don't rag on Heidi's appearance because it isn't as funny because unlike Hored Heidi isn't fuck ugly.
No. 1115146
File: 1608968126974.jpg (161.23 KB, 1074x604, Sadoldhypocite.jpg)
When has Holly provided proof that she had Ross's consent to fuck men besides her word? Where has Sadoldmagician provided proof that Ross is as bad as Heidi and they deserve each other besides his word? Despite the lack of evidence Hored still defends him and downplays this but when a small follower of Heidi makes a joke about Jared they reee for days.
Why does someone need a reason to take back their consent? But yeah this is a great space for victims of abuse/s
No. 1115150
>>1115146it's cause there isn't any proof. And because Ross revoked his consent to be included in that fiasco, if there WAS any "proof" they would be roasted even more for it.
Ross removing himself publicly from this ensured that the only gossip about him can happen behind closed doors
Let's face it, Heidi's testament matches Ross' behavior post-divorce. Depressed, drinking, crashing homeless on couches of his friends. That doesn't sound like the reaction of someone accepting of the divorce because Holly wanted to run off and fuck a married man
No. 1115173
File: 1608974200414.jpg (54.69 KB, 1038x216, Vrchat 2.jpg)
>>1115150>Let's face it, Heidi's testament matches Ross' behavior post-divorce. Depressed, drinking, crashing homeless on couches of his friends. That doesn't sound like the reaction of someone accepting of the divorce because Holly wanted to run off and fuck a married manOther people have noticed this too.
No. 1115176
File: 1608974886799.jpeg (361.54 KB, 828x1462, 40D6324B-C7B1-4FF0-BFA4-7CFEF3…)
Looks like the teenaged-girl Etsy bracelet isn’t the only thing Pedodick picked up at that random garage sale…
No. 1115180
File: 1608976393520.jpg (140.43 KB, 1080x489, VRCHAT .jpg)
>>1115150>>1115155>>1115163Another more popular comment. But yeah Ross's post divorce behavior does match up with the fact that he wasn't okay with this and he was still was very in love with Holly.
And even the behavior he described in the video matches the ones fans saw in their old videos of Holly being cold to him. And him throwing shade at Holly by retweeting something telling people who bitch about cancel culture to basically stfu. But yeah Sadoldmagician and the ilk say everything Heidi said is a lie but have yet to provide evidence that Holly wasn't cheating and that Ross was cool with it even though his behavior says otherwise.
No. 1115258
>>1115146Lol, first of all she def went into detail about what he did to her that she considered emotional abuse. I could sit here and list it all but there is no need since she already did
Second of all atleast she fucking told us what happened. Of course I'm gonna believe the person who actually sat down and explained it all beginning to end over the people who just scree "abuse" and show random out of context text messages as proof. Also, hard not to believe Heidi when she says that those two were doing exactly what they still are are doing together: shacking up, banging on a pee covered bed, and constantly talking shit about Heidi to any aquantince or fan who will listen
"I didnt cheat on her" says man who has moved in with his Misstrix, more at 11
No. 1115345
File: 1609002892833.jpg (1.11 MB, 972x2231, Screenshot_20201226-121328_Chr…)
I'm obviously a total Heidi-simp but I just had to say she looks great and so happy in the latest photo she posted.
No. 1115378
File: 1609005298251.jpeg (159.28 KB, 1160x373, 102417F7-1A34-4983-B13F-6B6FE2…)
When the hored stans are SO CLOSE to getting the point. Now if they could just apply that same logic to legitimately everything hored has said…
No. 1115384
>>1115378She cannot show it, because it's
against the law to release sexts & nudes of someone without their consent.
No. 1115409
>>1110785Is he doing this because heidi used to literally make outfits for him and take good pics of him and now hes floundering to fill that hole? Because i cant see a regular guy who is into fashion failing this hard at it.
Idk it just makes me think of when a POS guy loses a great girl (very common thing that happens) and then he has a meltdown and basically does a bunch of out of character antics on the internet in hopes of his ex seeing and feeling like she missed out. But in reality its very transparent and embarrassing projection and makes the girl feel like she got out of a prison and can finally enjoy fresh air again. Its like a personal shadenfreude
No. 1115490
File: 1609019382617.png (624.28 KB, 1008x991, blockthebigmeanie.png)
Once again, Jared shows that he can't take people calling him out. All that user did was call him a creep but that gave Jared a bad brain day so he blocked them because he would rather hide from the truth.
No. 1115536
File: 1609024078840.jpeg (101.08 KB, 828x643, 4C2926B8-71F0-4C8D-94A4-F65B11…)
DM’s didn’t seem to overwhelm him when he was actively trying to get nudes from his followers though…
No. 1115549
File: 1609025918205.jpeg (274.42 KB, 828x1355, 9127ABBD-5328-4226-A5B5-CB61A9…)
>>1115542You mean Tweedledee and Tweedledum here? They can’t come up with an argument other than Jared good, Heidi bad.
No. 1115579
>>1115490No just a bad troll not comparable to fruityass or the stickman at least it seems like that person has a life outside of Hored unlike the former two whose accounts are dedicated to Hored. That fruityass repiles to year old tweets and makes hate art. She seems mentally unstable.
Overall hored trolls still are not as bad as the Heidi ones. They mass disliked all her videos even the pre drama ones, now she doesn't post on YouTube anymore, they drove her off YouTube. She had one weird Twitter account that threatened her publicly, someone left shit on her doorstep and Hored said she lied. When she posted her Ebay account to sell games her account was taken down briefly, fucking with her ability to make extra money during the holidays.
I'm not even a Heidi stan I don't care for the overpriced stuff internet influencers put out, the only thing I like about her is her cat. I'm pointing out to assholes like sadoldmagician that the two are not the same. Until people send shit to Hored's doorstep and mass false flag their accounts and do other comparable shit to fuck with them irl then we can say the two are the same.
No. 1115609
File: 1609032904914.png (46.8 KB, 536x558, jaredforeverinnocent.png)
>>1115606The very least he and/or his fans could do is distance themselves from this moron
No. 1115613
File: 1609033408636.png (17.37 KB, 534x212, HeidiTheFeral.png)
Bonus:
They REALLY think "Heidi The Feral" is one sick burn, huh?
No. 1115614
File: 1609033484762.png (220.8 KB, 1071x968, heidiyoutube.png)
>>1115579FYI Heidi wasn't chased off youtube she said herself that she gave it up because she wasn't earning a living wage from it or Twitch. Which I understand, why waste energy making pennies on youtube when she can devote herself to her store and make enough to live on?
>>1115609I think that Ingram dude is the only one giving fruityass the time of day, none of the other stans want to deal with that shit.
No. 1115697
File: 1609046994843.jpeg (866.8 KB, 828x1462, 5BE1E69B-CD85-4852-A56A-E1C6F8…)
Hmm, well maybe if you don’t cheat on your husband and fuck other people’s husbands, you won’t have to worry about losing anything, Hoelly.
No. 1115888
File: 1609084991300.jpeg (194.08 KB, 828x1270, 9C231CD8-4253-40C2-9112-15F09D…)
And here she goes on about cancel culture again. Maybe the pity money isn’t as good as it used to be, seems like she keeps bringing it back up more often.
No. 1115894
>>1115579No, the fact this Haruhi idiot was replying to everything Jared posted to harass him is much worse.
Those obsessive fucks Ingram and fruityass have never tried to directly tweet @Heidi.
While Haruhi is probably less degenerate, they're a bit more stupid.
No. 1115909
>>1115888Here we go again with the the
victim blaming. Jared used and abused his fame to pressure girls to send him nudes. He admitted to this and there is evidence. And yes you cheated Holly, you never disproved that.
No. 1116156
>>1116146It sure is. But somehow she’s always trying to make herself the
victim when she’s got a long history of being a shitty person behind her.
No. 1116271
File: 1609118059942.jpeg (280.39 KB, 828x1439, A52CF4A9-2DE9-472B-BA32-8DC315…)
Glad to see this guy finally get pushed back on his bullshit. I follow Heidi on Twitter and I don’t remember seeing anything where she actively was encouraging people to attack Pedodick and Hoelly.
No. 1116627
File: 1609171861252.jpeg (77.48 KB, 828x442, 3BBCC506-D76A-44F8-AFF7-9449FE…)
Heh, so now Hoelly has to encourage people to watch ProDick’s videos? I wonder if his viewership has gone down. Or just that more people are shying away from the guy who used his internet fame to get nudes from his fanbase.
>>1116294Yep. The Horeds are just
toxic people.
No. 1116778
File: 1609187464159.jpg (92.6 KB, 720x333, Screenshot_20201228-152924_Chr…)
See guys, he is all mine, we play animal crossing together!!!
Something sad about her getting excited over her "cameo"… as a villager in a clip, like her bar for his attention/phraise is on the floor
No. 1116783
File: 1609187666738.jpg (295.33 KB, 720x920, Screenshot_20201228-153221_Chr…)
So sweet that evil Heidi the Feral didn't destroy their true love when she lied about everything including the pedo stuff and 9/11 being an inside job or whatever
I bet she is just beaming reading shit like that knowing that her plan worked and that she has irl striath shippers
No. 1116820
>>1116778Yeah, that’s kind of the vibe I was getting from that post too. If that bar could go through the floor, it would.
>>1116783The “horrible things” that people on the internet did to them? What about all those people who were being used under the guise of body positivity? And the cheating and shit?
No. 1117124
File: 1609223431052.jpg (Spoiler Image,186.12 KB, 709x610, Snapchat .jpg)
>>1117087A friendly reminder that Jared also had a snapchat where he sent girls unsolicited dick pics to get them to send nudes. So sexual harassment and sexual coercion. People don't talk about it much because his snapchat was not well archived unlike his tumblr. Jared didn't bring it up in his video cus this is the behavior of a straight up sexual predator and there was no way he could twist it to make himself look innocent. Image is from that snapchat via Twitter.
No. 1117206
>>1117124Thank you!!!!
It wasn't just that fans sent nudes happily, it was that he was so damn pushy. If people messaged him about DnD or video games he would ignore it and say "send nudes", if people weren't sending him nudes on snap he would get whiny and beg and send his own unprompted, hell, he used to mass send his dick pics on snap! He was fucking pushy and made people uncomfortable.
Another reason why most of us that actually hold him accountable are women: we all have interacted with men like him, fucking weirdos who think everyone wants to see their dick and that every woman on earth owes them titty pics
No. 1117244
File: 1609251857702.jpeg (Spoiler Image,187.05 KB, 1030x1006, 620A93C1-7775-41F5-9E97-65B0F9…)
>>1116844Hello there Gavin White/Pzykopath/Ingram Vermillion, staunch defender of ProDick.
It’s not that he just sent nudes, it’s that he was sending lewds/nudes in order to get nudes in return. Like others have said, he was pushy and forcing his pics on others, even if they didn’t want them, as shown in the picture. He was straight up being a sexual predator, but he didn’t apologize for that, he only acknowledged that there was a power imbalance with what he was doing. So as you go around the internet trying to defend him over what happened with his marriage, to which there is his side, her side, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle, don’t forget that you are also defending someone who was engaging in disgusting behavior like this. Who also fucked a fan at a con and then dropped interacting with them because he got what he wanted. Who also led someone on because they had a crush on his wife, and he used that in order to lure them into sexual conversations and promising a threesome even though his wife wasn’t interested. (I’m not linking the posts because I don’t want the people in question being harassed, but the info is easily found.)
So it’s pretty likely it’s that past predatory behavior that’s causing him to lose followers/viewers, and not just the failed marriage aspect that you keep harassing people on Twitter about. I know that’s why I find him creepy and disgusting. It’s gross as fuck and he doesn’t deserve to have a fanbase at all, no matter how “hard” he works at putting out videos.
No. 1117557
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Something about these grown ass adults in their 30s calling people bullies is so funny to me. Sure call them harassers or trolls or haters… but bullies?
Are we sure Holly hasn't murdered him and taken over his social media?
No. 1117570
>>1117557Where was all this anti-bullying energy when people were going after Heidi, ProDick? After all, in his post, he said he cared about her mental health (which literally everyone can see was a lie)
>"I'm trying to be more comfortable with myself"says the man who had no problem sending pictures of his dick to anyone with a pulse.
No. 1117709
>>1117570>Where was all this anti-bullying energy when people were going after Heidi, ProDick? I know he liked one of Gavin White's tweets so we know that's a lie.
And I do know after the response video went up he was pissed at H3H3 and Phil Defranco, I think, because they didn't accept his "apology". He was liking tweets from fans attacking them. One of those fans tweeted at him this he should take them to court then he dropped the matter. I think these tweets were archived on pull. I have to look.
No. 1117739
>>1117709Heidi has plenty of white knights to do it for him when you get down to it, notice how fast people jump to defend her even if you don't bad mouth her.
>>1117718Not just the gaming industry (even then a few of those were lies for clout/sob bucks) just in general it's been one of those years. This comparison is as accurate as saying him and vic's situation are the same.
No. 1120474
File: 1609625015516.png (41.82 KB, 526x436, heidithewhore.png)
>"dates multiple men for months"
Still waiting on evidence of the literal throngs of men that Heidi dated and/or fucked…
>"she guilt tripped Holly, and made her apologize."
Well, that's a new one. I thought that Holly had such a good & kind heart that she apologized to Heidi out of her own goodwill, but now she was apparently forced to apologize???
>"And she made Jared think that being yelled at was okay."
Mind you, while they were still married, she tried to talk to him & he either ignored or avoided her.
I am so fucking tired of hearing this "Yelling = Abuse!" bullshit.
>"Making both Jared and Holly think THEY were in the wrong."
Because they were. They just didn't like hearing it.
Boy these two are NOT helping things for Jared & Holly, because all they do is continue to remind me of the flaws in their narrative.
No. 1120540
File: 1609629409517.png (35.46 KB, 536x290, fruityasswantstohurt.png)
#BeKind!
No. 1120596
>>1120574Ironically it seems to be the reverse, since jared or holly can do virtually anything and somehow are the most evil people alive because they dared to take a normal selfie or post a picture without drama baiting.
>>1120587> but won’t say a peep about Jared forcing nudes on peopleBecause that was never a thing, I've followed this shit since before he caught up in it, the milk is dry right now so now we're to the point of making up facts. The only pictures you've seen were EXCHANGING nudes, it wasn't a one way street because even Jared's sleazy dumbass self was smart enough to get nudes first. We all want more milk, it'll come naturally, anon.
No. 1120759
>>1120746Why would they? Even if they did they'd treat it with far more suspicion than they did with jared's supposed
victims coming forth til he himself had to discredit one of the claims. I'm honestly curious, what would the ones heidi sleeping with have to gain by coming forward?
No. 1120921
File: 1609686354662.jpeg (135.82 KB, 828x696, CFCA0AB6-CC43-459C-8EFC-61EF42…)
Looks like he’s still a narcissist.
No. 1120935
>>1120921So… it wasn't her thinking you were cheating, or being mad at you for being sad or something?
Such ABUSE!
…Unless this is about
another ex…
No. 1120948
>>1120921Bear in mind, the tweet says "AN ex" he could be talking about a different person…
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that he cheated on a previous partner with Heidi.
No. 1121032
>>1120921How much you wanna bet it was just her casually venting and going like "aw man all the comments are about you, nobody noticed my dress" or whatever and In his Holly whipped mind he turned that into her being a hulking angry monster yelling at him for having clout
Not to mention all the replies to him saying how
toxic she is and how he was the better looking one in all their selfies
eye roll No. 1121151
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Look who came out of hiding…
No. 1121159
>>1121018He sure does, those texts between him and Heidi when she found out that he was fucking Hoelly behind her back are proof of that. He would either just not respond to the texts or very minimally. I wouldn’t be surprised if he does this stuff to Hoelly too.
>>1121151lmao Gavin White is back? I wonder if his other alt accounts got suspended or muted due to harassment.
No. 1121310
>>1121285>still continually talking about it and posting about it? You mean like how cancer patients talk about beating it all the time and talk on the subject of cancer whenever it's brought up or stumbled across because it affected them? I get what you were trying to say but that's normal behavior of anyone and quite frankly yeah, he did "beat" cancel culture because most people who got canceled couldn't continue
anything they used to do, let alone be in the public light. It's barely year old drama look how often Vic or Austin (before finally being arrested) get brought up these days out of nowhere compared to when it was fresh.
No. 1121351
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>>1121285You mean this tweet?
No. 1121354
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>>1121351…And of course there's some whiners in the replies ready to defend him!
No. 1121362
>>1121351That’s the tweet! I’ve seen a lot of replies where people had said they’d use the money to meet him so they could beat his ass, lmao.
>>1121354Ugh, these defenders of ProDick need to stop. Regardless of the sent pics to minor thing that can’t be proven either way, he still sent his dick and lewd pictures to people, sometimes being pushy and non-consensually, and used his internet status to do so. He’s a gross person.
No. 1121363
File: 1609720453823.png (26.31 KB, 600x234, heidididitalltoo.png)
>>1121354A-HA! So it was HEIDI who forced him to send nudes to minors!!!
No. 1121365
>>1121350I think the point was it's the same logic.
>>1121363I mean, they're not wrong but forced is the wrong word. Heidi openly admitted she encouraged the exchange of nudes. People keep bring up "minors" like he specifically sought them out when even his archived blogs says consenting
adults can partake. Creepy no matter what but yes, Heidi was involved, sorry white knights.
No. 1121381
>>1121365 Yeah, we know about this already. Heidi isn't 100% innocent & has
also fucked things up, but what she did really pales in comparison to her ex.
No. 1121384
File: 1609722144878.png (33.88 KB, 518x346, sucks.png)
>>1121351I love how it never dawned on these people that some folks just… don't like his videos.
No. 1121441
>>1121422Tumblr was a
very uninhibited place, at least back in 2012-2016.
Sure, there were blogs marked as NSFW, but they could just click 'confirm'/'continue' in the dialogue box & they went on their merry way; drowning in a sea of porn/gore/etc.
Not to mention almost
no one marked their blogs as NSFW back then - People would casually post selfies of them flashing their tits on their public blogs.
No. 1121465
File: 1609729888267.png (244.83 KB, 536x392, brokenmarriagestory.png)
Saw this tweet from Jared earlier in the month. The source material is…relevant.
No. 1121496
>>1121005Between Holly's use of "partner" and that tweet about helping people find their pronouns… Does anyone else get the feeling that Jared's latest excuse as to why he's not a sexpest is going to revolved around him announcing a pronoun change?
If he honestly thinks that putting himself under the LGBTQ umbrella help him escape the consequences of being a creep, I will absolutely lose my shit.
No. 1121552
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>>1120717>>1121537Here you go. I blocked out the name because they've been repeatedly harassed by Jared's stans.
No. 1121561
File: 1609737291865.png (229.87 KB, 532x518, endrant.png)
>>1121552Of course the stans accused her of "USING Jared to get to Heidi"
No. 1121606
File: 1609743545442.png (117.63 KB, 720x641, 20210104_015632.png)
Not about Jared but painfully relevant.
No. 1121847
File: 1609782017138.png (52.12 KB, 392x648, trustme.png)
>"Where is it said that Ross encouraged them to be together?"
>"It's in one of the text conversations that got uploaded, one that Holly uploaded if I remember."
Umm, when? I never saw Holly posts any texts from Ross???
Fucking post your proof or at least post a link you fucking knob! Enough of this "Trust me it's true!" bullshit!
No. 1121927
File: 1609788127005.png (14.5 KB, 390x310, doitforfame.png)
Glad people will still point this out as long as 'gamers' continue to be exposed for preying on their fans.
No. 1121974
>>1121927I feel 100000% worse for these women that not only got harassed by Jared but also still to this day are being harassed by his fans for daring to speak up about their experience than I do for Jared or Holly for dealing with ~~bullies~~
Much like Jared, his fans are a monument of fake wokeness.
No. 1122054
File: 1609795846909.png (36.03 KB, 584x296, predatorpower.png)
Not Jared, but close enough (Ryan Haywood)
No. 1122113
>>1122054Yeah, I wish there was this energy when Pedodick came back, he has no business having any sort of following or fanbase after what he did.
>>1122104Yep. They try to pretend that all he did was trade nudes and that it was all consensual, when it really was much more than that.
No. 1122581
>>1121561wow they're really going to try to say the issue was a lesbian stating to a poly couple she was a lesbian and not the dude in the couple using his wife as bait?
also love how "poly" is a magical excuse that protects jared when he wants to fuck people his wife asked him not to, but somehow is forgotten when a fan is talking to the fucking COUPLE about banging
No. 1122590
>>1121363this is some tati westbrook level of defense, like jared isn't a grown ass man who is implicit in his own bad decisions. sorry heidi was dumb but not nearly as dumb as jared, nor does she continue to be as dumb as jared has been recently.
>>1120921p sure it's heidi because he never really dunked on his exes before the drama but he hasn't stopped dunking on heidi since. if it's holly, that would be hilarious, but i don't think he would announce a break up so soon because of how much he clings to his DnD fantasy.
love the idea of holly going from being ross's wife/grump mom to projared's girlfriend. of course she's still happy with him at this point so she's not going to scream misogyny
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>>1122728I’m thinking Hoelly needs to take some of her own advice here. Instead she just cries about cancel culture and how she was pulled into drama that “she wasn’t a part of.”
No. 1122817
>>1122728>"Get shamed every time I talk about it like I do it for the attention"Then why the fuck do you talk about it to your twitter followers? If you're not doing it for attention, you'd handle it privately with friends or with your therapist - not to your thousands of twitter followers who can do fuck all but give you ass pats and reassure you that you didn't do anything wrong. That's not working to improve yourself, Hoelly.
Also ironic that she's saying that it's cruel to give her shit - but she had NO PROBLEM calling Heidi an "unfixable abuser" repeatedly
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>>1122728
>"That's cruelty at it's highest level"No Holly, cruelty at it's highest level is
putting someone's abuse into question because you will only hear & believe ONE side of the story No. 1122851
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No. 1122858
>>1122851Wait. It should have been private, but also it's fair to heal however needed even if that's talking about it? What the assbackwards bullshit is that?
Either she wants people to shut up or she wants them to be able to talk publicly. You don't get to rant on twitter but tell Heidi she should have kept it private, Hored.
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>>1122851The moment Holly
finally says something respectful about Heidi & her shithead stans come in to ruin it for her.
Forget cancel-culture, stan-culture is the
real problem here.
No. 1122867
>>1122728Funny how it's bullying for people to call her out for being involved in drama she helped create, but apparently it's not bullying to punch down and attack a person with a 1300 follower account for saying something Holly disagrees with.
She is such a ghoul.
No. 1122873
>>1122851This statement, as contradictory as it seems, at least shows a bit of growth on Holly's end, which I appreciate, but…
>>1122859…Her fans continue to make it difficult for me to forgive her, because she hasn't
actively discouraged her fans from constantly targeting & attacking Heidi.
No. 1122879
>>1122728I like the subtle shade towards "friend that will never talk to me again", like they only dont talk to her because she was unjustly cancelled and not because they were disgusted by her actions. Idk, the wording of this tweet just makes it seems like the friends and followers she lost are the bad guys in the situation
Holly. Yes you are traumatized, yes you can work on it in therapy to forgive yourself and yes you can accept forgiveness from those who have given it to you. But you cant keep villainizing the people who dont forgive you. You cant throw up trauma as an excuse for your actions and act like people are evil
victim haters because they dont accept your excuse and apology.
Friends and fans are allowed to dislike you for what you did. I get that this is something she lives with and she regrets things she did, but she isnt owed a fanbase or friends for regretting a mistake. Being a successful creator is a privilege that only happens to a rare few people, and those few people arent owed an audience and famous friends just because they used to have it before something went down. If people like you and your content, they will follow you. easy as that. You are a fucking internet celebrity famous for marrying a bigger internet celebrity, you aren't owed a following.
Like, fuck. I hate the mentality that just because she and jared HAD more success they should have the same amount now. Your job is being a public figure, and if the public doesnt like you much after finding out some crappy things that you did that sucks, but that doesnt make them bullies for not wanting to support someone who did things they dont approve of.
I HATE how she always says shit like "drama I had no choice in being in" like… yeah, you were the other woman sleeping with a married man and slandering his wife to everyone in the industry, obviously you didnt want that information about you coming out. "Your honor, yes I killed this man, but I had no choice in being in this trial! I didn't want anyone to know about it :(" We get it. You wanted Heidi to stay silent about everything you did because you knew it was fucked up and would make you look bad. You think she is the bad guy for not giving you the silence you didnt deserve
Honestly she should be mad at Jared for everything blowing up, not Heidi. Heidi agreed to keep it private and give them the silence they so desperately wanted and then he went behind her back and posted a joint statement (that Holly no doubt helped him compose) without even letting Heidi know. They were so fucking close to scaring her into silence and getting away with it until he made that choice.
No. 1122894
>>1122879
>Honestly she should be mad at Jared for everything blowing up, not Heidi. THIS.
He was the
first to be dishonest with her; telling her that his marriage "was pretty much over" when they were actually trying to make it work.
No. 1122909
>>1122894That said, if someone tells you their relationship is "pretty much over" - that means it's
not over. Run.
You may feel like shit for turning them down, but your future-self will be
very thankful that you did.
No. 1122934
>>1122921Uh…he made the announcement the same day he filed after blocking Heidi on twitter while telling everyone he truly cared for her mental health. He tried to publicly paint himself as the hero of the situation when, in reality, he and Hoelly had been carrying on - at minimum - an emotional affair for MONTHS.
Yeah, I can see why you think Heidi just got mad because she didn't agree to the announcement. /s
No. 1122953
>>1122846This was exactly what made me unsub from all of Hollys content. The whole fucking “you know me” bullshit instantly had me wondering why that should matter?
Also lol at people being all “Heidi”, again she isn’t the one with the following on social media, she wasn’t the one that put out a public message full of shit. Her response was completely justified in retaliating to big names like holly and Jared who tried to shut her up and poison public opinion before she could defend herself. If she was saying things on her private Facebook Jared should’ve left it there but HE took it to the public eye with his fabricated nonsense.
No. 1122955
>>1122934She didnt even know he was making the announcement. Imagine logging on to twitter and seeing bunch of DMs and tweets sending condolences for something you had no idea was public, and then when you click the statement to see what was said in your name you are blocked from reading it. Huh… you'd think Holly would have been more sympathetic, after all Heidi was drawn into a public divorce announcement that she had no control over.
Just kidding, that's only a bad thing when its someone being called out for being a mistress to a sexual predator, duh /s
Heidi gave him everything he wanted; she didn't publicly post about the divorce (I don't count a private facebook post where she didnt even name Holly as her outing him) she didnt report them to wizards she didnt speak the truth about her abuse, all she asked in return was to make a mutual public announcement and for time to adjust to her new single life. Instead he went ahead and blocked and posted a "mutual" statement she didn't approve of the very minute she was out of his house. Like… he was so close to getting away with it but he just HAD to be a creepy narcissist
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Definitely know of a few fans who should see this…
No. 1122981
>>1122968SOM: good thing I never learned how to read!
Where was all this "he took advantage of his fans' adoration" energy in May-August 2019 ?
Now that I'm seeing all this Carson stuff i wonder if Holly is tweeting about how hard cancelation is because she feels for him and he is her type (the type of guy that sexually harasses his teenage fans) watch out Jared!
No. 1122989
>>1122981SOM apparently hangs out with Jared & Holly irl, but he also said he didn't even know Jared until
after the controversy.
No. 1123038
>>1122859>>1122851>>1122731>>1122728Im powerleveling a bit but here it goes cus I'm slightly
triggered. Holly's Twitter temper tantrum. Is textbook manipulation. A female family member would do this very thing. Anytime I would call her out on her
abusive behavior she would cry about her mental health and suicidal tendencies to gulit me into being nice to her. Holly we know you read here and stalk Jared's social media. If you want people to forget, call out Jared when he shit talks about his ex which encourages harassment. Call out your friends who do the same with your ex. And this is not even counting the sus shit she did last year.
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>>1122977
Yes, where was this energy back then?
No. 1123085
>>1123038also maybe tell the stans with accounts dedicated to trashing heidi to stop.
before the infighting starts no, i'm not defending heidi, just pointing out how hypocritical it is that is so obsessed with being bullied she replies to tweets that don't even mention her by name, but shrugs it off any time her friends or fans are the bullies.
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Anybody else see where ProDick is thinking of starting a discord? Right back to his old ways, eh?
No. 1123100
>>1123085Ironically, people who do defend heidi are usually the ones attacking anyone who says anything neutral or not damnening about hored. Both sides need to stfu at times tbh.
>>1123097Everyone and their mother, sometimes literally has a discord these days. it's a glorified virtual hangout spot, there's nothing wrong with him starting one. "old ways" would be him asking to exchange nudes again.
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>>1123039
>"even the 'Good' version of the events is extremely gross."Finally someone says it!
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>>1123039The replies have restored my hope in humanity
No. 1123238
>>1123229Phewww, the creepy reply hored stans are gonna be busy tonight!
I love seeing alot of people reevaluating Jared/coming out with their thoughts on the situation. Honestly it felt like back when You've Been Lied To dropped that anyone who said anything against him or Holly were scrutinized. Think the Carson situation brought up the exact thing Jared was actually guilty of: sexually harassing and abusing fans and their adoration of you. I think too many people back were caught up in the fake pedo stuff and the dramatic twist of "no heidi is the bad guy not meee!" that they overlooked the actual gross shit he very well did do.
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>>1123238Yep.
The Ryan Haywood stuff back in October too.
As long as e-celebs keep getting exposed, people won't just
forget what he did.
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>"We should all strive to use this screenshot when talking about him from now on"
Good point.
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>>1123241
>If he's smart, he'll keep his head down and not acknowledge it Oops
No. 1123321
>>1123294This would be the perfect time for him to elaborate on why what he and Carson did was wrong and educate people on the lesson he learned and warn creators of making the same mistakes but instead he falls back on good ole reliable: pity me, I'm a beacon of false accusations and unfair cancellation
Makes it hard to think he regrets anything he did when he constantly like and replies to posts alluding to him being 1000% innocent. It's like if he truly has come to terms with why it was wrong he would be appalled at all the people who dont have an issue with it and try to correct/educate them. Like, you'd think he more than anyone would be mad at such behavior…
But wait! Him and Holly both briefly addressed it being wrong once before immediately ranting about how evil the minors and Heidi were respectively, so they totally think it's bad, guys! /s
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I was wondering when this weirdo would show up.
Of course they couldn't go without mentioning Heidi.
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Holly blocks people like crazy, but I'm sure fruityass would say it's okay b/b she's being harassed & no one deserve that EXCEPT Heidi uwu
No. 1123338
>>1123331It's at the 4:40 mark of the "You've been lied to" video
He said "A lot of people saw that and were upset at me for that reason, and to those of you who feel that way, I completely understand how you feel and why you feel that way and I'm sorry". He didn't say sorry for doing it, just that he was sorry they felt it was wrong. It was super fucking skeevy
No. 1123352
>>1123340Oh, well if he says it was unhealthy instead of predatory, then it’s all good, right? /s
What a fucking sorry excuse of an apology he put out there. But I guess that’s enough for some people to claim that he’s innocent and been cleared.
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Fucking THANK YOU!
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>>1123353God, I'm so glad people can now see through the bullshit!
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Imagine your fanbase making victims feel ashamed for their own experiences…
No. 1123377
>>1123375They were stupid, they should be shamed.
Victims or not.
No. 1123455
>>1123444…And I see more & more people waking up to their bullshit.
Good.
No. 1123607
>>1123333Honestly that video was nothing but gaslighting, kinda gives you an insight to how he treated Heidi (and possibly Holly atm, who knows) behind closed doors if he has no shame in attempting to do it to the public.
The thing that almost pissed me off the most in the video was that fucking smug “I forgive you” at the end, what a manipulative shit.
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Old tweet but lmao THIS
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>>1123334>>1123337Here ya go @fruityass21!
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>>1123238Surprised it took
this long for the 'creepy reply hored stans' to show up…
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>>1123989So you're saying he
DID cheat?
No. 1124694
>>1124064"Jared didn't cheat!"
"But even if he did, marriage is an outdated concept and he's poly so that make it okay regardless of Heidi consenting!"
"And anyway Heidi was cucking Jared with every black man in a 20-mile radius, the vile harlot!"
No. 1124741
>>1124694Yeah, pretty much.
Pick one. Did he NOT cheat?
Or DID he cheat but it's an exception because Holly said Heidi was
abusive?
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Does anyone else get really annoyed when she (and influencers in general) post this kind of stuff during troubling times? "Here is my wonderful pets and view of my beautiful yard to make you feel better about the chaos uwu" like maybe I'm just an asshole but a martyring picture of a cute animal isnt gonna make me feel happier or forget the horrible shit in the world
No. 1125300
>>1124835TI don't see a problem with this.
At least she didn't compare the recent events to her own situation again.
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In case anyone was wondering, Hoelly is STILL trying to profit off of the mocking "boundaries!" products.