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Take a shot every time an indie says some shit like this and cancels a stream
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the indie scene is just full of virgin degens that are way funnier than obsessing over weird minor details of senzawa's personal life imo
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Holy shit, isn’t this illegal or something? It’s quite literally a reskin. https://www.twitch.tv/kulfiecreme
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She recently updated her model. Probably caught some shit from cover.
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I wonder how Gura feels about videos like this being made of her.
Same for covercorp in general.https://twitter.com/jas_the_gews/status/1348333993280720896?s=19
this shit is too funny kek how can a native english speaker say spic instead of spikes is beyond me.
Its like saying nigga instead of niagara it makes me ctfu
Gawr "put a head on a spik" Gura lol
But seriously, why are weebs usually white male conservative? Litt Gura or vtuber in general has nothing to do with white supremacy stuff whatsoever. It is all japanese anyway~
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used an audio plugin and Shifted the formant (effectively the larynx size) of senna's 2013 update from her soundcloud by 2.5. guess who she now sounds like:https://www.mediafire.com/file/vyvilwc0ru4gh9c/Senna.mp3/file
Original soundcloud link: https://soundcloud.com/bd9567
i didn't shift the pitch. i shifted the resonance of her voice (formant). pitch shifting wont work esp with karaoke since you will be hearing your own voice + pitch shifted voice and that will throw off your singing. So i figured out that it was probably a formant shift.
tl;dr: yep it's a voice changer.
if you watch different sen clips, her voice changes drastically esp vs earlier clips>>131696
yep. with hardware. Look up the tc helicon voicelive.
also sage your posts.
Defending a literal who is a dead giveaway. Don't use this thread to self promote your ugly models and boring ass debuts.
It's not like as if she is with them IRL and holoEN travelling to japan would be highly unlikely. Mori lives in Japan for a long time and Kiara the white idolweeb was in Japan the whole time too, hoping COVER would allow her to live there with working visa, but they told her to fuck off. Ame, Ina and Gura are fine sittin at home in their countries.
I can see voiceediting trick happening because every communication happens through discord or other PC apps. But in order for >>131688
anon to fully convince us on that, anon (or someone else) should make more comparisons. Id suggest making a video with audio, throwing it on dropbox and uploading it here.
Yes, from BrownBeeTV to Senz to Gura, every tone is different. I guess that's for aesthetic as well as not to get recognized irl. Again, we need to separate her character from Senna Howard herself. Character =/= voice actor.
Ame also used it, you can see the vast difference between her twitch voice and vtube voice. The only one I'm sure not use it is Calli. Calli's voice is really similar to DemonDice persona and her irl voice in concert.
LOL, someone commented on 7 years old archive; a week ago. Looks like she would become self conscious more.
I noticed Gura sighed or doing tsch~ sound when there's some chats saying 'do chest reveal' on Today RDR2 stream. I wonder if she discovers this board too, since I also saw someone link this board in one of her comment section.
This is her singing voice 7 years ago. https://soundcloud.com/browndog9567/do-you-want-to-build-a-snowman
As you get older, your voice would usually get lower too right so it doesn't really make sense your voice get 'lolier' by the time you reach 21 yo. Also, she still sings good.
Of course she's changing her voice, just like a lot of Hololive members do.
I don't see any indication that any technical help is needed for that though.
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Found it in reddit, is this Joel, the Gura's BF on RFA stream?
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In all fariness Kiara is not too good at it either, but she keeps stroking her ego and desperation to keep being "niihon idol". In the past she was a fugly white idol in Japan who was milky as hell, and throughout this day still remains to be one. She would talk a lot of shit about others in public, including Venus and would send anonymus hate. She also started sleeping her way to stay in Japan eventually, later then posting pay2get nudes and showing pictures of herself in bra. Most of the milk about her was on pull or old cgl boards so now its a bit hard to find everything, but that bitch still remains to be toxic
and fake kek. She would make puppet account on pull to wk herself or wk herself on imageboards, so no wonder she started pretending to be a whiney menhera to earn the worst fanbase out of all holos (redditors who post gore to wk their queen and argue with jp, trying to turn people against other holos). She has such strong ego that she even made a wiki page about herself just to have it nuked later. And through all years shes always been known for doing "I CRY IM SO SAD I HATE MYSELF" for money and attention which she keeps doing now. She cant sleep her way to get more subs in hololive, so she leeches off yuribaiting and making her useless talk show instead, inviting only popular holos and making shitty interviews about things that even newfags know.
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If you scroll past threads you could see her previous (and still existing) persona kek
It kinda sounds like her, but you'd think that she wouldn't change her voice, considering that everyone knows she's senzawa by now.
On another note, do people not get tired of spewing the same bs about Kiara over and over again?
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>>131753>>131755> newfags will never know how milky Keekity is because they never browsed cgl or jp idol internet
I have never contributed in Kiara posting in previous thread, but if you really want to do more milk research on Gura, please, go ahead. I just wanted to post what I know. I really do not mind and encourage more info about the new sharkgirl, but it looks like as if theres only one person who actually posts something interesting about her, while others are sitting there and waiting. Help poor anon out!
Picrelated is artemis's weird friend.
For oishi tinfoil I can't care less about their content because it all looks the same to me, especially half of holoENs being nothing but twitch girls with anime avatar.
Or like any of the previous Keekihime boards from the last 5+ years, the problem being, people blast Kiara for the previous antics of Keekihime.
It's kinda unfair and irrelevant a lot of the milkier stuff about her happened when she was a teenager. so far as Kiara she has been clean. People make mistakes but dredging someone through their past mistakes is pretty wack.
Also for her in particular, there's a lot of people blowing stuff out of proportion and running with narratives. People just hate her, its pretty tiring to look at.
Lucky for you the guy on /jp/ posted 2 links and only one died.
That being said Nagu's clips don't tell all that much since she's the opposite of milky and her artstyle isn't something that can be crammed into your arm.
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I honestly don’t see the problem with this you’re going to look like another character just accept it. I don’t why they think it’s offensive to them.
EN VTubers don't really appreciate that anime is derivative by design and the only way to set yourself apart visually is to be like a big troon elf or a dog or a devil like Nijisanji people do
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Half of the Vtubers responding do look like other characters from anime and other Vtubers. If you choose to be a dog Vtuber you know exactly who you’re going to be compared to.
Because game streaming is never about the games. It is about the person playing it, an entertainer.
If you are trying to get into the story, you play the game on your own.
Yea, but it would be painful tho. Eventually, the player would just get confused and make irrational decision or stupid question regarding the game that otherwise could be avoided if she's really into the story. The backseat gamer would inevitably increase because the streamer's action would get into their nerve.
Korone's did a pretty solid job on AC Syndicate stream. Ame also did a decent job at LA Noire's stream. For an experienced streamer, Gura should know better.
What? She played a lot of games, indie or not. A bunch of random 'baby simulator' ones, spammed Dead By Daylight a lot, Eurotruck, etc. There were some story based indie games purely for cuteness factor, but I can't tell the names, you can always find on senz reddit.
She was making and streaming content for a long time, eg she started doing yt stuff in 2016 so she is still supposed to have knowledge. But then remembering how she always fried her brain off weed or beer…
Ame already played LA Noire before, and
the game is already boring enough the first time.
Her character is a detective = the game is about doing detective shit. she probably wanted to play up her character at little bit instead of the toxic
fps shooter that plays minecraft everyday
As you can see they got tryhard wk defending them everywhere. Dumb AND delusional
> Gura is pretending to be less experienced teehee!!> Ame was being dumb because her character is a detective!!
You guys know you can criticize your fave waifus and still like them right? Both of them should stick with Minecraft videos
I mean how old are you?
You know you are still shit in life.
Yep. Idk how to do it but the anon that shifted the formant here >>131688
should do it with the audio of this video as well.
Sounds like she just got better at putting on the voice. Why use a voice changer to very subtlety tweak a voice you can already do?
I mean sure its possible..but it just seems like a lot of work for little reward. Especially since people will find out eventually on an off collab. I wonder if Amelia is going to figure out a way to use hers when the time comes or if she'll just bite the bullet and let everyone hear her real voice.
Afaik pitch shifting changes the key, but formant shifting only changes the sound of the voice while maintaining the same key.
So the kitchen utensils wouldn't sound weird.
I found them on NicoNico, but they are members only.
Sage your post btw
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She could easily use hotkeys, a streamdeck or a professional mixer to quickly switch between modes while playing instruments and talking.
Heck she could even use two audio-channels, the instrument one without filters and the vocal one with filters to change her voice.
And has soundproof board between hands and head so the sound of instrument doesn't leak?
It's funny how people can't comprehend voice acting….especially when 99,99% Vtuber fans saw anime, where are so many examples of voice actors making so vastly different voices for different characters.
I can barely speak moon but there's a lot of ranting about how people who don't work are abnormal (which, kek given his character is 'neet vampire'. Mentions being a student in the clip but does he have a real job now or is he just a streamer?) 3:28 he seems to be doing an impression of a kid he went to middle school with who couldn't talk properly/was retarded. The other guy makes a joke ("Wasn't that you?") then tries to shut him up, saying Kuzuha shouldn't say stuff like that.
Honestly I don't think you're going to get people to care about this. Japan isn't exactly known for caring about disabled people, and western fans would need someone to translate it properly to even know what he's ranting about. That combined with the clip being from 2018 means some people will brush it off as "he's changed!!1!!" because this isn't the first problematic
thing Kuzuha has done and management will be on top of him to clean up any messes now that he's one of the top superchat earners.
I've done formant shifting to the video via Melodyne, it doesn't get any more professional than that imho.
Used the same value as the other poster did before, for lack of a better idea - neither less nor more came any closer to Gura's voice. Note that the mouth sounds - pop, tchk - goes pretty out of whack even with this little editing.
As mentioned by this poster >>132352
, I find it highly unlikely that she has a separate mic always standing by, turned on, pointed at the ukulele, with no crossbleed.
For the sake of fairness, I'll say that actual pitch shifting is kinda close-ish to Gura, with not near as much distortion, except any background noise would be obviously pitch shifted in that case as well. No combination of the two came anywhere near to a satisfying similarity.
In my opinion, this is straight up conspiracy theory tier, and I feel like an idiot spending time on it.
Thank you. So this is not the only problematic
thing he has done? This sounds milky, what else has he done?
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He has a reputation for being toxic
in competitive gaming, but like >>132441
says you're not going to get anyone to care. People are already aware of it, he was like that before he got hired by Nijisanji, and his fans will drown out anything that doesn't get covered up by management.
If you're going to say stuff like that at least provide screenshots or links to the rumor or something.https://idahotvep.org/kanae/https://www.documentation-provence.org/kanae-vtuber/
No idea if the abortion stuff is true or not but here's his pre-Nijisanji account at least. The voices are pretty much identical.
And bonus Kuzuha, even if his identity was already obvious.https://idahotvep.org/vamp_kuzu/
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>>132700> jerks off to picrelated and believes that he is doing a great job by coming here and protecting his qweens
Do something useful instead, learn to draw and make your chunnis happy.
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Some people on the other thread were asking about Kuzuryu Io's past life. She all but confirmed she's Teacuppity on stream talking about making graphics for AtoLive (who, by the way, have big mouths.)
A little more digging on the @teacuppity twitter gives you links to her past life as "saint * ル季", a Youtaite. The Youtaite's character looks the same as her Io character, with the same voice as Io's karaoke streams. https://www.youtube.com/c/saintluki/videos
. Channel is also linked to the teacuppity account.
Googling the SaintLuki name gives you her old AskFM with face pics.
so this is all under the assumption that io is teacuppity?
the covers do strikingly sound like her though
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in one of the descriptions she refers to herself as teacuppity, so yep io is tea cuppity>>132786
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this picture is 7 years ago though
apparently ever since this vid https://streamable.com/ur7off
gura got drunk again and ragequit some stream and bailed on another? sena got blitzed and can't stay away from the bottle huh?
She got the subs by making the video where "youtube-kun killed her" because she havent gotten 1mil by the end of the year for which she was pushing after 7yrs of her career. People assumed that her Nyanners persona is actually dead but shes been waiting for 1mil to hit so she could give the "continuation" of this video.
I personally always thought she was always better than LilyPiсhu but after Nyanners became a vtuber she changed for worse. Still, as for yt ogs she was the best cause of her singing voice.
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indie vtuber doxing coco? not sure if this is a joke but saw it on my timeline, post already deleted so screenshotted just incase
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Recently there was drama on my TL from hoshinochar and furuya mari for ripping popular vtuber designs without credit.
I read recent twitter replies to Mari and in a now deleted tweet, it accused her of running away from her past, which prompted tweets in pic related.
After digging through Mari's tweets, comparing the art and timelines, I believe this is the ex vtuber shunao who quit the internet last year for falsely accusing someone of rape.
She was a little tipsy and chat was calling her an alcoholic. If she used to be an actual alcoholic and people are spamming it in chat because she's had like 2 glasses of wine I can understand why she'd get salty. She didn't rage quit the stream and she's not back on the bottle, her content's still the same.>>132850
Different strokes? I don't watch her content but her Among Us with 8 Nyanners was pretty funny (It was all people using soundboards of her voice)>>132902
Until Coco riled up the Chinese Antis she was probably the girl in Hololive least worried about "Face dox" since she's got the exact same voice she had on Kson's channel and would do regular webcam streams in addition to her v-tuber persona. Like, I don't think Coco gives a shit outside of her contract with Cover not letting her mention it.
Kson also did no makeup streams too which is pretty much unheard of for most asian women. Like hell, Pokimane acted like it was this massive internet-breaking thing that she posted one selfie without makeup, Kson would start streams with a naked face and put it on during the stream so like I said, don't think Coco gives a single fuck about her face being out there, just autistic fans
nb for replying to myself
I think there's a line between posting clips from V-Tuber's past identities/public socials and literally stalking them to the point they've found out where they went to school and posted their graduation video from the school's website.
That's a whole level of fucked up, turbo autism that causes people to become IRL stalkers
Moona here doesn't look like a 'mix' tho…
I can find like two of that face in the local market in the first two minutes.
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possibly reine based off former twitter accounts that i got from iketog
SoundCloudは「Kimunyu / きむにゅ」
formerly vtuber mia canasyna
formerly utaite on niconico
does art as well
possibly also does cosplaying on events
used to live in malaysia based on her twitter friends pre-2015
age should be around 27 years old as there are talks about her being in college back in 2011https://iketog.com/pavolia_reine_zense/
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howd the mods not immediately ban this kid
The only one I've ever seen annoyed (at best) at it has been Ame during I think a Members Only Mario Kart stream where someone had Sachiowo as their name and wouldn't leave.
Every person who's familiar with Sachiowo knows it's Ame, and the rest doesn't give a crap. Not sure what they try to accomplish.
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classic Artemis causing shit
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Artemis was caught watching Holofes pirated stream too, said they were there to read chat, but it was literally set to emote only mode. Only spends money when she get can attention for it, it's fucking pathetic
This. Now his "uwu fans" will keep spamming asking hololive to collab with this retard, when hololive is always strict towards collabs. He really thinks he can collab with anyone all because pikamee accepted him once.>>133044
during the same day he said something about stealing / pirating others content, saying thats bad just to end up deleteing the tweet cause he got called out under it.
Makes it worse the fact that all the pirated stream (but one which was a russian one) were by Chinese trolls who streamed both days just to try to "kick out" Coco from Hololive. The only way you could get it was China-only spam on twitter so he had to actually spend time finding the stream and switching them.
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Hero Hei is currently under fire for calling out Kani Kanizawa for accidentally posting KSon's picture with no context, labelling it as her doxxing Coco. Even Woohoolad is shitting on this guy for allegedly spreading exaggerated information.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqeeKf2WeI
The artfag drama got people looking into her past where they found out she used to go by Aizawa. The group she used to be in as Aizawa had a falling out where she ended up doxxing another member and the leader of the group threatened to doxx Uto's boyfriend if she didn't stop. People have also brought back up the Hololive tags, thumbnails and constant mentions of Hololive she used to grow so quickly. Then there's another person, a musician, that has come out saying he also got ghosted by her. These autistic fucks kept digging and found that Uto might not be a real indie since Nabi, the character designer for Amelia and Uto, only works with companies not individuals.
Its gotten to the point that Narukami and other JP channels have started to cover the drama.
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Some actual interesting Coco related stuff, that's not a complete non-issue like a picture of her being posted.
In terms of being crabby, sure - but no-one here really cow-tips or going through with plans of bot spamming an idol's chat.
Making fun of Artemis for being a dude on this forum where he's not going to see it unless he goes out of his way is a bit different from the months of non-stop harassment in chat Coco gets from CCP-fags, imo
I mean, the whole Taiwan thing was just a means to an end. Their real reason for hating Coco was that she chose not to post on her bilibili account, the only JP member not to do so. And honestly, I don't blame her.
People who actually think that her mentioning Taiwan is what pissed them off are stupid, why do you think Haachama was quickly given a free pass.
the rationale is not so far removed from covid denying trumpian idiots. youknow, the kind that think it's a great idea to storm the capitol. both very similar level unthinking bugmen in my book.
the sheer unshackled weaponized autism on display though is very familiar. at least in chan culture at large.
A lot of the twitter circles they move in are kinda young, ergo hugboxy and liberal tho.
It doesn't matter what other people call her, you can tell from her voice she's trans. Your skull, your throat length and your chest cavity are immutable qualities that can't be changed. Vocal coaching mitigates them a lil but there's a reason a lot of trans people have a "husky" voice.
Think it was also mentioned earlier but she also talks rather gently and tries to avoid, it seems, sudden pitch shifts or massive shifts in volume, since it helps keep her "voice" consistent. (and stops her from accidentally dropping into a more masculine register)
Learn to read>>133125
Previous thread had other speculations her, such as art scam drama, her using hololive tags under her videos and copying holo thumbnails etc.
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Pic from the old thread.>>133270>VShoujo expects to be treated seriously when they have a CGI Barbie model as one of their members.
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So Artia leaked some conversations between HoloCN Staff, Doris and Echo.
Supposedly some spicy stuff in there if you can read moonrunes. Cheating, talking shit about their fans, etc.
And supposedly the reason for this is that after their graduation shit really hit the fan and they turned on each other. The only exception being Yogiri who stayed out of it.
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Here is a summary from someone that dropped it in jp. Can anyone read bug to confirm, looks like there is a lot of milk in these leaks.
>>133450>And supposedly the reason for this is that after their graduation shit really hit the fan and they turned on each other
Sounds like something all toxic
groups do. If everything doesn't go well they blame everyone and everything. They can't handle being wrong in any way
Probably a newfag from 4chan who thought it was funny>>133485
Not impossible but highly improbable. Likely just a troll video of some random woman that sounds similar to her. Retards exist in Japan too
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Keeki just disabled comments on her channel.
Hah, that said I want to ask the odd question here.
What if Keeki is not Kiara. What counter argument can be made?
I'm not a Kiara fan, I watch almost none of her content but I'd gander she gets a whole lot of targeted harassment over what she used to do and how she used to act pre Hololive and I'm sure it stings that anyone in the know harasses her more over that than anything she's done since her debut.
Y'all lying if you don't think you were cringy retards in the past. Milk the cow if she's still being one now but she's mellowed out since her debut and Ollie has the same obsessive personality and gets none of the hate because her life from years ago hasn't been dug up yet.
That's going to happen to every v-tuber the second their identity is out. Fans think it's cool they spent 3 minutes on google and found a face dox and want to feel like they've taken a bite of the forbidden fruit
Just feels like pre-debut milk is the lowest hanging fruit, especially if it's years old but independent vtubers that are still squirting are so fucking stupid they're not worth talking about.
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two days ago Artemis red superchat Aqua seeking attention but fortunately Aqua ignored it and jp chat sweep the EN comments calling Artemis name.
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Pic related implies EnMa and Ao-Chan are disjoint from each other since there isn't really a reason for EnMa to put up a charade in a private space.
Watame just seems very empathetic, it honestly happens about twice every week. Not always necessarily about something sad like that though.
And obviously not counting this week since she's on a Manager enforced break due to overworking.
Nothing really spicy from this chat log, basically just them trying to find the rat. Mentioned here >>133461
>>133450>So Artia leaked some conversations between HoloCN Staff, Doris and Echo. >Supposedly some spicy stuff in there if you can read moonrunes. Cheating, talking shit about their fans, etc.>And supposedly the reason for this is that after their graduation shit really hit the fan and they turned on each other. The only exception being Yogiri who stayed out of it.
as expected of holocn judas
yeah I remember reading that one of them was innocent RIP
wasn't spade echo the one who got suspended back in may/june because she threw a tantrum and insulted someone?
I archived one of the holoCN girls wikipage when I saw that, pretty sure it was spade
damn nana is cursed with only whores for daughters lmao
the vid was just some woman with legs who sounded extremely similar to matsuri
I don't have the name, but I'm certain I archived it back during the summerhttps://files.catbox.moe/4hhjfo.mp4
Doesn't help much that she lives in Taiwan. I'd love for Hololive to branch out exclusively to Taiwan and maybe bringing her back, but fat chance of that ever happening in the current climate.
Though at the same time I think Hololive is at the point where they don't give a single shit about China anymore. No more CN Branch and no more Bilibili videos (that I know of).
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Apparently some Indonesians I know are scared to dig deeper into her infos because her parents got political and economical connections. Basically, she's privileged as fuck. Below is an information about her.
Keemuworks YouTube custom URL contains a name that links to an Indonesian forum account asking where to find someone that sells PS Vita.
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No idea where that guy got his source from, but following the breadcrumbs from iketog is a lot more reliable
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22yo 6 years ago, around 28 years old today>>132954
so I was pretty much on the spot
that woohoolad faggot is starting shit with herohei for no reason in the comments and on twitter
his videos kinda went to shit in the past few months since I last watched himhttps://www.youtube.com/c/WooHooLadttv/videos
guess woohoolad is trying to cling to some sort of relevancy/his former numbers
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if she really is a "real life ojousama" the first line here is pretty funny.
jesus christ this is cringe as fuck
do women really?
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So for this claim about Froot/BSApricot has been showing up for the last couple of days as a consequence of Silvervale shitting on certain fan comments
If the thing about the Earth-chan store getting scammed really did happen, shouldn't there have been reciepts about that? Thats not even getting to the alleged cheating.
Becomes a streamer. Then is shocked that she has to interact with mongloids on the internet.
Christ grow a tougher skin, you don't see any actual professional vtubers bitch and moan about it.
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Also gonna be my last post about this since it seems relatively boring and mundane, but this archived thread is where lots of people were pointing at when discussing this.https://desuarchive.org/aco/thread/4708702/#4711050
No milk. Something happened to her off-camera during her Pricon stream. When she unmuted, her voice was hoarse and she was sniffling audibly. Rig movements implied she was turning to talk to someone, and she quickly ended the stream.
The re-uploaded version has the tail end cut out, and ends before that point.
After a while, she posted on Twitter that she was alright, but there aren’t any more details on what happened.
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What she's saying matches up with the translation
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From those that watched and can understand her membership stream, they are saying Pekora's manager blocked her proposal for a gaming / prize stream she really wanted to make to give back to all her fans. Probably has to do with Japan's strict laws on gambling / prizes or her manager's retarded. She feels like she isn't doing / giving enough back to her fans and is thinking about turning off Superchats. Then she talked about taking a break until she feels better. *She also said that it wasn't a family death that made her cry and stop streaming in the last stream.
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Anyone have a clue what was in the SC that caused Rushia to meltdown?
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Sage for shit milk, I just found this funny. Athena trying to clout chase, and comparing her saying nigga to Kani's stupid drama upthread.
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