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>>3716
Okay, where are the links then?

>>3717
if the invite's expired, feel free to ask for a new one in the chat!

>>3698
No, it's mostly one butthurt anti-gc/pp anon falseflagging like a lunatic.

/ot/ rules apply for now. If you have rule requests or any complaints then you can post about it here >>>/meta/11760
Don’t make threads targeting specific nationalities, ethnicities, or races. You can discuss policy and government all you like but don't racebait. It is a global rule violation, this isn't /pol/.

Ive depersonalised all social media so I only get generic popular shit on YouTube and the last time I encountered a couple reel my brain went "Eww, love slop"

>>40519
Kek'd irl, "love slop" is a hilarious way to put it

>>40513
Nta you said You've posted in bp thread since the first one. Which posts are yours I'm curious

>>40531
That's nothing to do with I'm saying. You're the reason why that thread got locked btw.(report and ignore)

>>40535
Well if some random guy on 4chan said it, then it must be true. All other positions were social constructs and definitely never done by hunter-gatherers, makes perfect sense. Jesus you guys are stupid.

>>40591
Oh and not to mention, I don't think we can internally ever abandon the idea we're physically equal. Although yes, alot of Dimporhic science has some blindspots, i'm talking about how women perceive their own bodies.

There's no hope for women because they never choose it.

Hopefully my english is readable since I'm esl, but I really wanted to contribute something to the thread even if it's potentially worded poorly kek. Have any of you nonitas actually tried to start female only micro/pseudo societies? Last year we more or less started discussing the topic in the group I do irl activism with, and at first it seemed like everyone loved the idea, but it started to fall apart very fast. One of the first problems I found is that most women I know don't want any sort of formal structure in our female society. They tend to reject EVERYTHING male-made, to an honestly ridiculous extreme. I personally believe in observing what works in our current system, analyzing why it works, and maybe modifying some things if neccesary to adapt it for us. I think I'm the only one in my group who thinks this way, kek.
Another problem I encountered is that a lot of women have this idea of moving to the middle of nowhere and start living there, and while I understand the appeal of nature and all that, I think it's suicidal to just move far away from everything (specially hospitals) and leave everything behind. I wish it was possible, but just completely cutting ourselves off from the system doesn't seem like the best idea to me. I think we have to find a way to have our own thing while being aware that we are still inserted in a world with an already defined system and way of operating, and we can learn to take advantage of that instead of pulling a Christopher McCandless.
Anyway, here are a couple of ideas I have for a micro-society, that I think could potentially work. Basically what I wish I could convince my group of trying. I have more ideas, but I don't want to make this post even longer.

>Have shared savings.
Ofc you can have your own money, but it is highly encouraged to donate (potentially mandatory? kind of like a tax, but ofc the ammount would depend on how much each member earns). These funds are used for covering different necesities (for example, in my activist group we use our shared savings to pay for public transportation or buying things we use for our workshops/open activities). The idea would be to also use the money to eventually buy land/houses. Like I mentioned, my irl group already has something similar going, but I feel like most don't want to donate or just can't because (and this is another problem I see a lot) most have shit jobs and refuse to pursue something better o gPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>40593

>I personally believe in observing what works in our current system, analyzing why it works, and maybe modifying some things if neccesary to adapt it for us. I think I'm the only one in my group who thinks this way, kek.

If you don't honestly, I think you're bound to fail because no country or politcal body makes EVERYTHING from scratch.

>We have to find a way to have our own thing while being aware that we are still inserted in a world with an already defined system and way of operating, and we can learn to take advantage of that instead of pulling a Christopher McCandless.

Yeah, and have a set of goals and women understanding what they're up against. Reason why things fail, is because of lack of preperation and foresight. It's just retarded to believe that everything will be a utopia without an actual framework and plan. We'll get nowhere trying to take the whole system down without leveraging it to make our own.

>I've been reading about evolutionary biology and group adaptation (yes, Darwin's Cathedral) and I feel it helped me envision a bit more clearly what I want to achieve.

I think sociology/anthroplogy is closer to humans than biology, especially since the field is highly misogynistic and less useful in application due to the unique complexities of human life.

>>Have laws and rules, and our own written constitution.
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I actually love this. I never had thought of use of propoganda to flip gender roles. It was done to us, why not the other way around?

>>40594
>My only caviat is where would we as an online community help eachother and keep the movement/ideology strong?
Ayrt! In my activist organization, we use an Instagram account to publicize our activities and workshops, spread feminist theory, etc. My idea is to start talking with other radfem separatist groups from other countries that we follow on Instagram, so we can start to discuss topics like this and exchange ideas. I think it's better to try to build a society with women who belong to activist groups/organizations, since they have more experience working closely with others and most important, in a way they are proving they have the motivation to dedicate time to this project and hopefully take it seriously. I feel like that's also a good way of filtering potential free-riders that don't want to contribute anything to the society and expect it to build itself, or those who always find excuses not to get shit done (I admit those are present in irl activism too, but they tend to last very short and leave orgs on their own). Besides that, I'm doing my part and currently focusing on meeting more radfems from my country, sharing with them my ideas, and letting them know they can join our group and help with our proto female society. Also I want to start posting on our Instagram more about this and spread our ideas/plans for the society through there.
I feel like connecting with others irl is the best way to stay motivated, specially doing so with other women that read theory and have their ideologies well stablished (another requisite imo to be a member of the society).

>>40560
Sex is a necessity though. Anyway I should stop coming here lmao

>>39924
KEK

>>40211
Nona idk if you're gonna read this but I hope you will, bc this changed my life as a teenager and is partially why I became a radfem early on (I know you don't want the kid to become a radfem, but it's still useful advice): she needs to learn to question everything, and never accept things blindly. In her case: "Why do I not feel like I should be a girl? Why do these characters appeal to me? What do I hate about girlhood and who is making it hard on me?" Etc. Just invite her to be skeptical overall. The reason it's obvious that the trans movement is so fishy is it's manipulation and cult-like nature, which radical feminism is the opposite of; it encourages you to be, well, critical. From my experience we don't even ask anyone to be fellow radfems (we keep to ourselves if anything), we just tell people they should think for themselves. That's how you dodge ideologies like the trans movement! So advise skepticism to her, and try to add the fact that you can be gnc without transitionning, and that you owe nobody validation, no matter who asks for it. Best of luck!

>>40220
>TRANNIES ARE A CULT!!!!!
>we
kek. you keep it to yourselves because it's a cult with no offer to real problems world has. bunch of failed women believing they're enlightened when they're just so deep down to smelling their own shit they can't see the reality as it is. don't pretend your ideology is any better than inceldom when it's all about feeling superior to other women by lying about your past and self. ratfems are the weakest link(ban evasion)

I've had friends who found out I had gender critical views and instantaneously blocked me when I approached a long time male friend of mine who announced his HRT script. Over the past months of it happening, I realized I wasn't blocked anymore by a couple of the friends, all of them who did were male btw, it just makes me think they might have second guesses about the other friend and thought blocking me was too harsh. I think deep down they know they want to continue supporting someone and also recognizing it's not all the way right. I still have a few of these friends around, even one of them who calls herself an enby and she had some pooner DM her about things I've said. She told the pooner she didn't care. There's still hope, I guess. I just think a lot of social media presence puts women into this corner of submission to the trends, even if they aren't some huge influencer.

I lost my first bf because he was obsessed with troons online and jerked off to them. When I found out it felt like he had died and the grief was insurmountable. I think it traumatized me, I hate it when people say that but he said he did it because they're so feminine. I convinced myself I'm a masculine looking woman who looks worse than men in knee highs. It sounds like a joke but I fell into the deepest depression and ended up hospitalized in the aftermath.

>>40480
Attraction to trannies is no better than fetishizing deformations. Don't feel bad because you didn't fit into a degenerate's idea of what's attractive. Men's (and women's but idk if you're bi) tastes vary, and you fit some people's mold, you're bound to. Stay strong, and leave the rats to their trash

>>40550
No retard. First AYRT and I don't see the point in shaming women for being in relationships. But there are absolutely flaws in liberal feminism. There should be a balance between the two instead of throwing our hands up and only settling for Misogyny Lite like the mindset of Sabrina Carpenter shills, or purity-policing women into being polilez. Your post is complete with the same useless whining as BJ-chan about how much you wish you were born a man, you sound like a pooner, and worshipping how much better men are, and deciding the only possible way women can organize is by being overly restrictive. I just don't think that's true, you're probably basing this off Tumblr and Twitter drama. I think organizing a society with rights for women and women in leadership roles is possible without encouraging women to fall for old ways of thinking and sell themselves out or denying them from being heterosexual.

>>40580
Fuck off you fucking mentally impaired radfem. You can't even understand what I'm saying. You're just another sexually repressed bitch who think she knows it better than us. You don't understand women and how they work.(infighting)

I agree with radfems about a lot of things, I just never see them move past the stage of 'Be Kind' that they also yell about the TRAs forcing on them. If you don't want to do it - don't do it? but then if you don't do it they get mad. The big area I'm seeing this atm is with muslim women - most muslim women are just as conservative as muslim men are, but I have to support them, because they're women. Not I have to support goals that would happen to also benefit them, e.g. workplace rights, I have to support them. How about no? that's not a good use of my time?

>>40600
Go eat some hotdog first worlder. Saving the women isn't your duty.

>>40601
I'm literally saying it isn't. I guess they don't teach women to read in your country.

>>20757
>women can give birth therefore women are designed to only be broodmares and nothing else

why do people always say this? Especially when women have so much more intellectual and creative potential than males.
It's like saying that because males have their prostate deep inside their assholes the male body is designed for anal rape only and nothing else. Which would make more sense actually seeing how men are all huge faggots who crave cock 24/7.

>>34837
>u have a very polarized view of manhood and womanhood almost on par with incels judging from your post.
That's because a human man and a woman are a polarity and gender in humans is a physical construct and sex is a fundamental part of the reality. We as women have a femininie voice, sexual anatomy and physiognomy and men have a masculine.
>And there are a lot of people who don’t give into the game of gender roles.
Never met real exceptions or sex that was an expectation of the universal rule created by the structure of the physical reality. One woman had a username called littlefitcumslut and talked about how gender non conforming she is.
>what the actual male and female experience is, it’s alarming that you don’t (or can’t) see it
I'm literally basing it all on observations of real human behaviors all around me and everywhere else in the world
>After that, you’re pretty much impenetrable
The female body was made to be penetrated.
You are literally dismissive of facts about real life we experience from the second we are born which is human biology. None of what you wrote changes the fact that as a woman if I had sex I would be a bottom and feminine. The sexual polarity we embody as humans is never changeable and it's a biological femininity(women) and masculinity (men). Dick is or penetrative with it's anatomy therefore it psychologically creates male sexuality and vagina is receptive, it also creates female sexuality mentally and makes them identify with sexual submission and femininity. Even what sex is is universal for everyone and not whatever you make it to be. Even "normal" sexual acts are sadomasochistic and involve deep female vulnerability and a submission which makes her mental state a similar to that of a bdsm sub.

>>21521
I want to ask her if a good argument to shut down pickme moid sympathizers would be to accept celibacy for the good of the future moids since if she pityfucks even slightly she's basically fucking over any future kids she has?

the legacy of manifesto-chan will always carry on.

Historical AGP documentary

>>39836
i checked out some of her other videos. big fan of the laid-back kinda feel they have.

>>40466
>she really just wants a stud touch-me-not
but when you say that they really only like masculine lesbians because they view them as male-adjacent/pseudo males, they get triggered

>>40466
i'm bisexual and generally choose male partners just because i regard them as either stupider or uglier and therefore i am less intimidated whenever engaging with them. whenever i engage with a hot woman my heart starts going 150bpm and i can't think straight and i embarrass myself. would love to be with a hot butch but would never dare hit on the ones i know in case it's seen as overstepping the boundaries of the association and then I'm the problem for making them uncomfortable. Whenever males try to force unwanted sexual attention/escalation on our interactions I usually find an excuse to ditch them and I'm horrified at the prospect of making another woman uncomfortable like that. yes i am a coward.

>>40527
Sure, Jan.

>>40527
males should be the ones ur intimidated by actually

>>40527
Women are much more likely to experience rejection when pursuing other women and I think that's what intimidates a lot of people. But the fear of rejection is worth pushing through for those who truly want to find a same sex relationship. It doesn't work to be passive like with men who will actively pursue you anyway.