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>>3716
Okay, where are the links then?

>>3717
if the invite's expired, feel free to ask for a new one in the chat!

>>3698
No, it's mostly one butthurt anti-gc/pp anon falseflagging like a lunatic.

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>>37517
I experience daily suffering as a woman who hates sexual submission, sex is the root of life and fundaments of it and human psychology, femininity and masculinity is human nature, human psychology, I hate femininity and it makes me disordered everyday. Stop gaslighting. It's not about my feelings, but objective reality and me not fitting I to it

>>37509
>Feelings are not reality
Yes, I don't conform to womanhood therefore I'm not a woman, just a female. If I get rid of my genitals I no longer be a female.
>There's no internal "man feeling" or "woman feeling
No but there's conformity to one's nature and then rejection, when it's the latter dysphoria manifests as a defense mechanism. Which also may lead person to feel they're the opposite gender.
>What are you trying in your life to reduce the amount of time you dwell on your dysphoria
I'm saving up money for surgery but it's useless. It's not gonna happen in this shitshow. I could never have a normal life anyway, whether I had dysphoria or not, so I'm thinking to end this freakshow soon

Wish I didn't born as a woman

I don't want to be a man and I don't relate to/"understand" trans people, but of course I feel like it's preferable to be a man for a variety of reasons social and biological (although both are linked to each others). There are no advantage to being a woman, bleeding every month is annoying as fuck a best, does anyone enjoy that ? Women's reproductive system is a joke, pregnancy is a burden and it's fine when women want to go through it, but personally it disgusts me and i see it as body horror that never ends even after birth.
birth control is a slight improvement to the condition of women, but the side effects and/or efficiency make bc a less than perfect solution. im sure a lot about bc and generally medicine regarding women's reproductive system could be improved if only people namely men cared more, but it's not the case. saying that bc that comes with 675678 potential side effects could be improved is considered a feminist complain or something close to that.
pregnancy remains objectively painful even when women want to go through it. meanwhile men can just go on with their lives easily saying that they "want" and "expect" children although the entire reproductive labor will be delegated to the woman they will potentially have a child with.
I partake in "feminine activities" or whatever but that's unrelated imo. i'm sure there are women who enjoy being a woman from a biological perspective but i don't see how they do it, there is a lot of pain and unrewarded labor inherent to it, either way i accepted that i'll never be one of them. fuck this shit

>>37553
So would you give birth if it wasn't painful? That doesn't sound like dysphoria to me tbh. Also what do you mean by "feminine activities"?

I've finally realised all relationships with men are pointless.
>men will never see you as a true equal
>men only see you as a 1 dimensional character
>traditional men see you as a domestic slave/broodmare
>modern men see you as a sex toy/bangmaid
>dating for fun is pointless because men don't take you on proper dates
>they don't actually listen to anything you say
>men can never truly be happy for you because they lack empathy and can only think of ways to one up you
>men think they're smarter than you even though they're all pathologically retarded
>men resent you when you like yourself
>sex with men is pointless because they don't care about your orgasm
>sex with men is invasive and leads to thrush, BV etc

>>37548
"One of the glories of society is to have created woman where Nature had made only a female; to have created a continuity of desire where Nature thought only of perpetuating the species; and, in fine, to have invented love."

Humanity did manage to distance itself from such brutality of nature, but feminists are unwittingly striving to tear down centuries of progress.

>>37552
>Humanity did manage to distance itself from such brutality of nature
ntayrt where?

>>37545
I get where she's coming from. feminists like to think the sex they're having with their nigels is qualitatively different from the sex depicted in porn because one is "sex" and one is "violence". but if you think that all sex is inseparable from domination and submission, then all sex is inseparable from violence, therefore consensual sex and porn are only different by a matter of degree.

however i'm not personally sold on the idea that sex is always submissive for the female just because she takes the passive role when there is reproduction. is the female always submissive in hetero sex, maybe, because it always comes back to pleasuring a male in one way or another. but idk how masturbation or lesbian sex are supposed to fit into this framework.

>>37555
Not exactly sure what you're asking, it should be evident that relationship dynamics within some cultures are more gracious than in others.

>>37534
>>37536
You can ban porn, then there will be blackmailing. Men who rule the world are pedophiles themselves, it's either moronism or naivety to think as long as power balance will shift to women (never) conditions will improve for us.

>>37534
>>37536
You can ban porn, then there will be blackmailing. Men who rule the world are pedophiles themselves, it's either moronism or naivety to think as long as power balance will shift to women (never) conditions will improve for us.

>>37538
ummmm… sure. like they don’t do that already. pedophilia is still illegal or is this a reason you feel criminalization of it is illegitimate? male protectors like you are the reason those of us who can recognize that hosting 60% of the worlds porn is a problem that we can and should address need to take the opportunities that come up because we have no allies in this especially not in the US, the belly of the beast. as soon as we suggest any legal measures that could encroach on males freedom in any way you get defensive and youd would never be a supporter of any wins against porn. we need to destroy the infrastructure and the existing content to the extent possible and criminalize it going forward. not really interested in anyone who clutches their pearls at the idea of criminalizing male behavior and makes excuses why it shouldn’t be done thanks.

>>37539
nyart but why the fuck are people getting their panties in a twist over banning porn?
It should be banned, ESPECIALLY internet porn. Like am I the only one who sees how twisted and pedophilic it inherently is that mainstream porn sites don't even require an account to get access to it?
Any fucking 4 year old can hear the word porn, wonder what it is, google it, and BAM. Instant, non direct, early exposure to every single fucked up sexual fetish under the sun. As soon as they can spell it they can fucking see it.

Porn definitely should be banned, but in the meantime the fact that porn is THIS accessible to little kids makes me want to fucking puke.

>>37549
Government isn't there for babysitting your brats, if children can easily access to porn that's parents problem. No one forces children to watch porn lmao. They don't need that to groom them.

>>37122
Yes and it's annoying as fuck. It's tiring dealing with the rise of these retards who are incapable of thinking their own sexualities through. It's annoying because we HAVE to deal with the rape culture that is a result of it all too. We're such a minority that fake gay bitches probably outnumber us. Fake gay bitches literally speak more about lesbianism than us without realizing the harm it actually does.

I hate how my experiences with closeted bi women have ruined me for any future relationship. I can't even talk about this among radfems because it's "offensive" and "stereotypical" to talk about how being friends with bihets even while in the closet growing up always led to them touching me inappropriately, feeling entitled to me, but then would scream over how lesbians are going to molest them when that's what they do to girls. It's so hard for me to give a shit when their boyfriends treat them like shit, abusive garbage attracts garbage.

>>37122
And the lesbians who are thembies/TIFs call themselves bisexual because they're attracted to women and also women with pronouns

>>37540
She's so going to marry a moid and have 3 children with him.

Ok that’s all I have. Good night nonnas

I just saw a post on instagram calling for “BIPOC” performers for a show, and saying it to mean “everyone but white people”. white people ARE the indigenous population of england. Why is it bad to say that? White english people are genuinely a minority in so many places in our own country, especially in cities. I’m honestly sick of being going into town and hearing like every other person speaking a foreign language, and simultaneously being treated as if I am an “privileged” for being white, even though I am working class, and in fact actively excluded from things in my own country.

I hate african males that stand in front of stores. Where I live there's a big immigration problem, I'm in Europe, and it's basically "yeah you can come but won't give you rights lol" which translates to people coming and then roaming free like homeless fucks without any law action because they don't get rights so no rights equals no documents no identity no criminal record.
They hop on train and they just hgo around the country. They don't get fines for not having the ticket because they don't have documents so they end up in a lot of different towns and villages. I live in a very small village and this fucker (but it's not restricted to my area, it's a very well known problem nation wide) always stand at the entrance of grocery stores to beg. He stands. He's not sitting, he stands right besides the entrance and will call you names if you don't give him the spare change when you get out and he remembers you, meaning that the next time you're out for groceries, he will call you names.
The people working here can't do shit because technically he's not "inside" the property of the grocery store and the security operates inside of it but I'm so fucking tired of these half and half immigration laws, either you come, learn the language, get identified and stay the fuck away from locals meaning you don't bother them or you will left dying in the sea.
My mother which is a senior has to give him always 20-30 cents unless he calls her names on the way home. A big, almost 2m talls african man that calls names a small old lady over spare change. It's disgusting. I'm glad to vote far right at the next politics elections if that means hunting these little shits down.
If I was doing what he is doing, I would get arrested for molesting people and extortion because I'm a citizen, him not being one, like all of his kind, paradoxically gives him more freedom than anything and since they don't have ids, the gov can't send him back. Back to where? Back on the shitty boat you came from, scum.

>>37425
that's horrifying nonita. male inmigrants like that should just be sent off into the atmosphere to explode or something

>>24339
I cannot for the life of me understand, of all these shithole countries, why Afghani men are allowed to step foot on western soil. If they can't get rid of their gender apartheid then the men that enforce it cannot be allowed to taint the west. Only Afghani women should be able to flee to more feminist countries since their status as refugee is legitimate and they don't pose a threat to anyone.

>>37425
That sounds really horrible and I don't envy you. Europe is truly so fucking cucked. I'm glad I moved away. Can I ask what European country you live in?

I’m in a weird spot where one of my best friends is a genderspesh but she always agrees with me on radfem rhetoric lol. She hates men, is suspicious of anyone male including TiMs, identifies as misandrist, hates most porn (she’s fine with like fanfic erotica), thinks most TiFs are pickmes, etc etc. But she respects everyone’s gendie pronouns and uses they/she. I think honestly she grapples with really bad sex dysphoria due to trauma stuff and the only thing that keeps her from straight up TiFing out is that she isn’t an idiot & she SUPER identifies with lesbianism and butchness. I hope for her.

It's all so exhausting, I feel like I'm tearing myself apart. I'm not a professioanl artist but I still do love art, painting, drawing, music, etc, so my friend group has always been made up of progressive artsy people. I'm pretty progressive and liberal myself, so it was all good for a while.

Until the troon menace came. Now it's gender this, nonbinary that, the most vile troons, both tim and tif, saying the most vile shit, and all I can do is pretend I don't want them all to die in a fire. Even the normal ones now play the gender game, talk about trans rights, etc. Most of the parties now are free for trans people. Wtf man. They're a higher caste now. Fuck I want to cry and shout from the top of my lungs YOU'RE NOT A FUCKING WOMAN/MAN, YOU'RE DESTROYING WOMEN'S AND GAY RIGHTS! But I keep my mouth shut and respect peoples pronouns because I'm a fucking coward who's so afraid of losing her friend group that she puts aside her morals and ideals. Kill me now.

>>36031
I think >>2222275 makes a good point about this, sometimes it helps to think of them like children where you can't tell them Santa isn't real because they'd have a tantrum, so even though we all know Santa isn't real we just go along with it to avoid exhausting upset

I recently made a new social media account (not going to specify which) which I wanted to use to post about the fandom I'm in, but unfortunately said fandom is completely infested with trannies, to the point where just avoiding them isn't really an option if I want to make friends in it. At least it's a very female-targeted media with hot guys so I only have to deal with TIFs and not TIMs. My profile makes it clear I'm a woman but I also haven't mentioned anything to do with trannyism, only my thoughts about the character I like in said fandom and always using male pronouns for him. I've been fine being crypto like that so far (I think, anyway) but I do block TIMs and other undesirables on sight and I do worry that would be my undoing if it was found out.
I recently got the discord of a mutual I really wanted to be better friends with, I won't elaborate for obvious reasons, we've talked a little but all I want to do is see if I can peak her out of the nonbinary nonsense, she's worth saving from the cult to me. It hasn't come up in conversation yet but I'm so worried of anything I try to attempt not being successful and I scare her off a result.

>>37510
I was part of the enstars fandom (I'm assuming it's that one or maybe project sekai) and I became friends with a she/they lesbian. I had a huge crush on her and we would talk so much everyday. One day I just said, fuck it, and I told her I was a radfem. She took it surprisingly well? She told me she didn't really mind, it's not like she had any DNI in her bio or whatever and she didn't care about me being a radfem. I guess she realized I wasn't the monster trannies always describe and like to whine about when talking about radical feminists, kekw. And she was pretty chill overall. I did use the tranny pronouns for Arashi out of respect for her though. I just liked her so much. We ended up ghosting each other after three months, but I hope everything goes well for you, non.

>>25189
I was not looking too deep into things

>>37327
I’m sorry Nona. I lost my best friend of 10+ years to this movement and I still flinch thinking about it. But you stayed true to your morals, knowledge, and values, and losing one person is better than losing your sense of self. Maybe one day down the road she’ll realize you were the only one who was honest with her. Regardless, I hope you make even better friends in the future.

>>37494
If she ever changes her mind I will do my best to pinkpill her. I'll apologize for not teaching her that being a woman is actually really cool because women are complete human beings who are capable of love and compassion.
If she ever wants to reach out to me I'd want to talk to her.
God… it fucks me up. The day she started taking testosterone she was walking with her dad and he had a near fatal heart attack next to her and needed to be helicoptered to the hospital. Looking back I feel like it was a warning. Test can increase your risk of heart disease and UGHHHH I feel like I failed…. I feel like I lost her and I'm such a piece of shit.

This thread is so funny(b8)

When I was a stupid kid I had a classmate who came out as bigender and decided I was too. I asked my mom if I would be cute as a boy and she said no and set me straight. Thank you, mom.