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No. 39009[Reply]

A thread for discussing issues related to IVF, gene editing, surrogacy and the concept of artificial wombs and how these can affect women individually and as a class
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No. 39029

>>39026
Should've mentioned this in my post, but I was thinking of technology such as CRISPR, where they cut out the bad genes and replace them with good ones or just "sew" the rest of the genes together after removing the bad one. So the child wouldn't carry it anymore. I was under the impression they do this in the womb, do they only do it using IVF?

No. 39031

>>39019
It’s not possible for men to give birth to a child though, they aren’t biologically designed to do such. The only role a man can have in reproduction is providing sperm. But our role in creating a child is growing your fetus during the 9 months of pregnancy and then giving birth. These two things along with breastfeeding and the whole postpartum experience are your literal physical initiation into motherhood and caring for a child; and these celebrities and other ultra-rich are feeling like they’re above that just because they can afford to pay a woman to do it for them.

No. 39032

>>39028
>Everything about surrogacy lacks the fundamentals about childbirth: love
Nonsense. Many children got abused by their mothers even when it was them that shit them

No. 39034

>>39021
I'm sure he has a hidden loli porn collection.

No. 39360

>>39021
I'm conflicted. I mean we have a chance to eliminate certain diseases forever and actually improve the gene pool. But only women should access. Men can rot with their AI waifus



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No. 24356[Reply]

A thread for documenting and discussing the issues of the surrogacy Industry and the harms it causes to women and children.
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No. 38409

Why do we have two threads for this? https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/22845.html

No. 38440

>>38409
there was an anti-surrogacy thread on /2x/ and an anti-surrogacy on /ot/, the latter was also moved on /2x/ for some reason

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No. 38759

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Excellent.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/17/surrogate-parents-too-afraid-to-return-to-italy-after-procreative-tourism-law
>The gay couple could be among the first Italians to be prosecuted under the law, enacted in early December, which extended an outright ban on domestic surrogacy by making it a universal crime that transcends borders, putting them on a par with terrorists, paedophiles and war criminals.
>The measure can lead to prison terms of up to two years and fines of between €600,000 and €1m (£500,000 and £840,000).

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No. 38891[Reply]

A thread to talk about your relationship with your mother. Letting go your feelings about her. Things you would wanted her to understand. Vent, grief, share…

No. 38892

I feel like the more my mother socializes and talks with other women the more desensensitized she becomes with me. Our relationship becomes less tender. It make me feel worthless and sometimes i feel suicidal about it. Because I crave for mother love, and I'm seeking that from other older women. Just in case if mother doesnt love me anymore. I think she hates me in deep dowm, I feel like a burden to her. And if she learn my true self, my true feelings about myself and world around me… I have no idea. I love-hate her, sometimes I don't care about her sometimes I can't sleep from thinking my place will be replaced by other women. No women will take her place so I don't see any point in dating or making friends. I feel insecure

No. 38895

She is the best.

No. 38902

She was a terrible mother, but now that I'm an adult she's a good friend.
I can see now that she was desperately trying to keep her own head above water when I was young, and wasn't in a position to provide the support I needed. Now she's got less stress in her life, I'm capable of looking after myself and don't need as much from her, we get along well.
I always thought my brother was her favourite but it was just that his flaws aligned better with hers than mine did, if that makes sense. She had so many things to worry about at any given time that she forgot about us a lot. Promises she had made, things we needed for school, etc. My brother was impatient and would nag her over and over which served to remind her so he usually did get what he needed. I patiently held my tongue and waited for her to remember on her own, which she never did. If I had been better at advocating for myself it would have made a huge difference.
I've made my peace with the difficulties we had with each other in my youth, and while I will try to learn from them and do a better job with my own children, I don't hold them against her.

No. 39319

I feel guilty for wishing she did more to protect me as a child. She was stuck in this split between being a total doormat pickme for my dad but also genuinely caring for me and shielding me from his abuse. And no the former wasn't just a mask, she still goes out of her way to defend his opinions these days.

No. 39529

>>38891
i don't to talk to her. she was an abusive alkie when i was a kid, and it only continued into my 20s (i cut her off around 25). i told her i would talk again if she goes to rehab. she still hasn't. i want to make space for her, but it must be reciprocal. her eldest sister says she trembles after a few days of not drinking. i find it tremendously sad, to be honest. why does she need alcohol more than she needs a viable relationship with me? maybe she will die without me ever knowing. whenever she reaches out it feels like a trap. i've suspected more recently that she never wanted to be a mom. a few times she told me her relationship with my dad was my fault for being born and maybe it was like that back then. i won't pretend women's rights have been going well, and there's probably a lot unrecorded because men don't give a shit about the hell they inflict on women and make great efforts to conceal this, well… sometimes.

for my own sanity, i really cannot put myself in a situation where she can threaten suicide or lash out at me physically for emotional leverage if she refuses to do any work towards, succinctly, not doing that kind of thing. i gave it a good 15 years (from 12) or so. nowadays i find peace over our deteriorated relationship in my grandmothers, my aunts, my friends, and women in the knitting circle, silly though it may sound. i learned a lot from her, just not necessarily positive lessons (a bad example is still a lesson). mother's day is always a little weird emotionally for me, but i usually just gift things to the other wonderful mothers in my life. this year i did shareable plants (or, plants that propagate well) in little pots that were evocative of the women i gifted them to (pottery sets/styles they like, shells, etc).



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No. 31633[Reply]

A thread for blackpill feminism. Discuss heterosexual dynamics, female psychology, and the flaws of the feminist movement here.

If you disagree with the entire premise of the thread, you have no reason to enter it. Remember that entertaining disingenuous liberal feminist debate is running around in circles.

Previous thread >>30265
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No. 38804

>>38798
What the fuck is that? Come on oldfag let’s get you to bed you’re senile.

No. 38805

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>>38801
Jesus does she ever fucking shut up?

No. 38829

>>38805
She's based, I'm happy she's from boland

No. 38833

>>38829
>I'm happy she's from boland
What do you mean?

No. 38872

>>32047
imo high IQ people will always crop up in the gene pool and you don't need to select for it. It's a waste for >1% of intellect to have kids, the brain isn't set up for it.



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No. 7569[Reply]

A place to share moments in films, TV shows, clips from magazines, comics, interviews etc. that highlight radfem talking points or the insanity of trans ideology. Including points made accidentally.
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No. 36749

Any radfem podcasts?

No. 36755

>>36749
redfem?

No. 36866

>>34876
I remember the one Simpsons episode where one of the twins was gonna marry a troon, but yelled back at him saying she only liked girls. American tv used to be so based

No. 37575

>>22245
I'm inclined to agree with you nona.
This show is probably one of my favorite cartoons and while I don't think Mike Judge fully intended for it to be read in a more feminist way, the show definitely does a good job at depicting how young men can be (unintentionally) misogynistic (along with other issues) when not given any proper guidance. They're basically the antithesis of everything that could possibly go wrong in a moid's upbringing, going wrong.

No. 38750

Just finished watching the latest White Lotus episode and there is the most perfect AGP monologue from a sex-addicted white middle aged man feeling like he is an asian girl on the inside



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No. 11642[Reply]

>A person who conceals or masks their gender-critical views, especially from friends or within trans-inclusive spaces.

Thread for cryptos to share tips, vent, and talk about why they're crypto and if they're going to stay crypto. Have you managed to peak anyone by being crypto?

Any celebs you suspect of being crypto? picrel she kept her daughter from trooning out by letting her experiment with androgyny. jolie has also actually left the western feminist bubble
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No. 38214

i was crypto at work but then drank too much at a work xmas party and ranted about trannies

turned out fine no-one gave a shit

No. 38225

I'm crypto in a female dominated hobby. There is a real mix of tifs, libfems, and a few who have expressed feminist views unrelated to troons that I agree with. I've understandably made more effort to make friends with the latter group. Quite a lot of them are anti-porn for example and will even publicly agree with the feminist opinions I share. I try to suss them out and see if any of them are also crypto and I honestly don't know what to think. Sometimes when I talk to them privately about this stuff they will outright admit to not really seeing tifs as men. They use female pronouns for our tif friends behind their backs and usually agree it's some kind of nerdy NLOG fujo thing. But when it comes to tims they all believe in trutrans and act like handmaidens. They just can't apply the same logic whatsoever. I'm not sure if they're trying to save face or if it's just male privilege in action. Is it just a case of everyone being too scared to say no to the weird man? Does anyone else experience this complete cognitive dissonance from other women? It feels like many of them are either crypto themselves or perhaps close to peaking, but I don't want to push further and it all go horribly wrong.

No. 38305

A few years ago I was friends with a trannie, he was the same fucking type as every tranny.
started ugly as fuck than fucked every single "straight" men they could and got upset when they didnt want to have a relationship with him.
years later, he went to live in the capital of my country to find acting jobs, no one knows shit about him right now, I bet he is in the prostitution business.
sad, he was part of a good family, no one talks to him anymore because nothing else matter to him more than pretending to be a woman.

No. 38306

>>38305
Lol you deserve to end up homeless and make your living by sucking smelly cocks. Die(infighting/a-logging)

No. 39055

i just needed to share this with someone. i know this troon at work and i have to be nice.

>TIM cries about dysphoria all the time.

>shows up today with a fucking buzzcut



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No. 22845[Reply]

A thread for documenting and discussing the issues of the surrogacy Industry and the harms it causes to women and children.
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No. 37566

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No. 37694

>>23734 This photo actually makes me so sick and angry. Soo fucking creepy.

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No. 38166

>>38165
This is the Gammy case, the worst thing is that the dad was a nonce

No. 38167

>>38166
>the dad was a nonce
Like a clockwork.



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No. 23143[Reply]

I believe we seriously need to uplift female creators who spread anti-manosphere messages in order to counter the online wave of misogyny

Here are some examples I thought of :

> BurbNBougie (Youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/@BurbNBougie)

> Princella Clark (Youtube Link : https://www.youtube.com/@TheQueenMaker)
> Tree of Logic (Youtube Link : https://www.youtube.com/@justtree411)
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No. 23484

There's a whole thread like this on /m/ why not add it there??

No. 38136

>>23150
trolley sure doesnt like white women, implies feminism isnt for white women in addition to all other races of women, on her tradwives vid. This is very divisive and unhelpful. Yet men support each other in their crimes against any race of women. Shes doing the same thing misogynist men do, just add the word "white" in front of it.

This is coming from someone who doesnt even count as white, as Im half Southern European (apparently that makes me not white acc to wasp women). But trolley would probably call me white to hate on me, either way, its still a misogynistic mentality.

Childfrees content is just rereading reddit stories. While I like the antibreeder angle, a lot of it looks like it criticizes mainly women.

The others dont really appeal to me either.

We need better man hating youtubers that will improve womens lives, ie how to navigate moid psychology and thwart their attempts at abuse and control on a personal and societal level.

No. 38137

>>38136
White women shouldve think that when they chose red cock over other womens liberation

No. 38151


No. 38156

sarah klait on tiktok makes fun of boymoms, but not a fan of her mocking young girls for looking old. Other than that, her videos are very therapeutic and funny. We need more anti boymom content in the world.



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No. 36122[Reply]

Yo. I was reading about comfort women and was amazed to find that, in 2021, a Harvard professor (picrel) wrote a paper claiming that the Japanese Military never forced any women into sex slavery in WW2. He also claimed that a 10-year old girl from Borneo willingly agreed to become a sex slave for the Japanese. He has also, to date, never apologized about this, and believes that North Korea is to blame for everyone calling him a fucking idiot.

In honor of this, I wanted to make a thread about this kind of blatant misogyny under the guise of higher academia. ITT we name and shame any and all "academics" who are guilty of this. Bonus points if you post screencaps of any academic papers they've written.
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No. 36730

>>36143
>world's leading transgender health authority has been collaborating with an academic who had fantasies of castrating and sexually enslaving little boys

> Thomas W. Johnson, a professor emeritus at California State University-Chico who has lectured extensively on gender dysphoria and “expanding the transgender umbrella.” Johnson utilized the moniker “Jesus” on the Eunuch Archive and registered with the forum in 2001.

>One notable example is a story titled “Larry,” which is prefaced as being an “original nightmare by Jesus.” The story is written in an imaginary future where the law allows any adult to “sell himself or herself, or any parent to sell a child over the age of 10.”
>Not even halfway into the story, the 10-year-old child is put in chains and iron restraints before being castrated without anesthetic.
>During a physical examination conducted by the narrator, the child is described as “even more beautiful without his clothes.” The narrator is later described as sharing a bed with the boy and “massaging his little genitals.”
>Under his moniker, Johnson also encouraged site members to submit fantasies of castrating children in a dystopian setting wherein eugenics had become enforced by the government. The framework for the fictional world was drafted by a site member who called himself Erik, in a story titled “The Making of the Modern World.”

No. 37003

i feel like most “queer theorists” fall into the category of “academia misogynists” but idk if it stems from a hatred of women or just a general retardation and lack of comprehension of reality

No. 37004

>>37003
It's complicated that, cause prominent second wave feminist's(like monique wittig)
It's a little more complicated, because prominent second wave feminists (such as monique wittig) technically also participated in the foundation of queer studies, spearheaded by focault, it was based on rejecting essentially all forms of established methods of analysis and even research, believing that those had been created by those in power to maintain power and any revolutionary movement would end up re-creating those systems(this was their explanation for the soviet union and why communist revolutions turn into dictatorships) so in a feminist example, radical feminists are not marxists but radical feminism uses marxist methods to address the condition of patriarchy(that men are the oppressor class and women are the oppressed class) a queer theorist would argue that radical feminism is doomed from the start because it is a 'cis- hetero-male' method of analysis that was intended only for hetero-male european workers and not for the globally oppressed classes

No. 37971

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>Yale course asks if black and white women can be friends
https://www.thecollegefix.com/yale-course-asks-if-black-and-white-women-can-be-friends/

No. 37975

>>37971
I remember there was a twitter thread about something similar where people discussed how most academics in the social sciences are complete losers who can't comprehend normal human interactions



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No. 4405[Reply]

ITT: female figures that you looked up to or were inspired by, but turned out they were either pick-me's or betrayed their ideals for one reason or another
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No. 25823

>>24600
Who is she? I don't recognise her.

No. 26594

>>25823
PJ Harvey

No. 31497

>>24600
Latereply but me too, also the clips of her being offended by being associated with the feminist movement make her seem like a huge pick me. I still love her first two albums but it put a sour taste in my mouth.

No. 37868

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i used to love her music but can't support her anymore after reading about how she supplied her husband with young women to rape in front of her son. absolutely vile

No. 37897

>>4406
I never respected her. I called her a tranny in 9th grade and my art teacher got mad at me.
I am proud of 9th grade me.
Artemisia Gentileschi was always superior



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