/2X/ - (XX)

>>38888
this post has me considering trying out D&D, if there are other celibate/4B moid avoiders to befriend on there.

If I may ask and if you happen to see this, how/where in D&D did you find them? Ill understand if you dont want to say outright, due to any moid lurkers.

Wish there were more places/sites to meet 4B friends in the know.

found this post on tumblr and it's really peak

>>38894
Yup, this is exactly what put me off a lot of radfem spaces in general. Then again, as a lesbian, I’ve always noticed it. Just could never articulate it as well as this person did.

>>38893
Didn't see this until now, sorry! Did a few meetups and found a group specifically looking for women players. Was just extremely lucky to arrive and find women my age that weren't troons or handmaidens. I'd recommend libraries/local event sites, volunteering at women's shelters, and book clubs. Also depends on how high your husbandofag tolerance is. Lesbians make up my closest friends, but shut-in women who are disillusioned or repulsed by real men and cope with fantastical delusions are more common.

Wishing you luck, nona! Every woman deserves a loving friend group. They're out there.

On the same note as >>38893 how does one meet well-adjusted non-moid centered women irl? I live in a very liberal city, and I swear it’s the worst in a special way because people here just stick to their privileged liberal enclaves (most people here are college educated and at least middle class) so they’re under a false sense of security. As a result libfem and gendie rhetoric runs wild and anything that goes against it gets you labeled as whatever phobic.

First one is when moids bring up that men's domestic abuse shelters were closed by rabid feminists, specifically bringing up Erin Pizzey.
Here is an excerpt from Pizzeys own book that shows the real reason why mens abuse shelters don't work out.

>>37719
I remember this, but forgot the names involved. Thanks, anon.

>>37719
Which book is this from?

Check out this new milk thread
>>>/snow/2109604

>>39208
They literally only do it for moids too

>>38992
how the fuck did the UK fall so hard

Then take it off or don't do law, simple. Or work in commercial litigation or something. It's not that hard to not require everything to bootride your religious bullshit. I don't care if it's harsh but religion of any kind should not have any place within the state or within law. Self awarewolf

>>37995
Don't really care if you're baiting me or not, but I have considered that. The people I'm most attracted to are ftms/transmascs and non-transitioning gnc women, as well. As much as radfems love to cry and scream about how "the deluded tifs are mutilating their bodies!!1!!1!", I just don't think that there's anything wrong with a female living their life like that. Any legitimate grievances that radfems have with trans people's behavior are obfuscated by the belief that their existence is inherently unnatural (very reminiscent of the Christian appeal to nature fallacy!). It's all so tiresome. One of the main things that made me lose interest in taking T is that it would make me even more vulnerable to medical discrimination than I already am. What bothers me the most nowadays is not my own body, but rather the behavior that every other female around me exhibits. Why do you obsessively shave everything below the neck? And more importantly, why do you expect the same of me? My own mother used to "gift" me razors in front of my entire extended family at Christmas parties. I recently befriended a few gender critical (tirf?) females on T over the internet, and they're the people I feel the strongest connection to. I just wish I had friend like that in real life. Anyways, tangent over.

>>38055
T will give you a clitdick abomination that will hurt in any kind of bottoms, you will develop the worst cystic acne of your life, and you will smell like a rotting animal. If you enjoy that for a few halcyon years, it will still result in stroking out and turning into a minimally conscious retard bc that poison gives us bloodclots. Just stop being another self-obsessed navel-gazing coward, lift weights to sculpt yourself into a goddess who can crush people in half with her terrifying muscles, and make friends who aren't on the internet. If you have an opinion that hurts their feelings, if won't matter bc you've naturally sculpted turned yourself into a minotaur.

>>6960
>>37329
Why can't we criticize this religion? Like I am antireligious but still

>>6960
I refuse to assimilate in this patriarchal society.
I want to create my own culture, without patriarchal influences.
I want to create my own country, instead of living in Poland or any other Western or Eastern patriarchal country.
I know one feminist conlang, but no matriarchal country.
I refuse to interact with most men, because most of them are poisoned with matriarchal abrahamic religions and pornography.

>>14512
>I suppose many of these types of women do not actually believe in what content they put out or internalize it. once you truly understand what males are their attention on you is rather laughable.
This is exactly what's going on: she couldn't be bothered to apply the theory to reality and chose to entertain the flirting with an engaged man. Look at how there's no mention of his fiance either in these journal entries. It's all just me me me I love attention that I'm getting right now - yet in a matter of weeks she changed the narrative to claim she was "abused and charmed" and spends her nights crying on the bathroom floor. She also claims to be totally over the situation but can't stop making sly little videos and posts about it.
Tbh there is one good thing about this situation and it's that both KC and LM now have huge red flags over their heads. The former is an autistic unemployed unfaithful scrote and the latter is a spineless attention-seeking homewrecker who can't even muster up any sympathy to the women she hurts. Any person with standards and morals will hopefully steer clear of these idiots in the future. I hope KC's (now hopefully ex) fiance can move on and be happy.

Did anyone happen to see if anything else went down with LM yesterday? She’s deleted a lot of stuff now kek

I'm the person you banned months ago and while I still stand for what I said (criticism of any movement is healthy for the movement itself, or else it cannot be self aware. And more than ever there's more fucking right wingers in radfem spaces) I'm back to being a radfem terf manhater. Long story short I had a mental breakdown where I thought I was going to be exposed and everyone would hate me and I would lose my job because someone told me the lolcow staff had ties to the troon who attacked this site before and I believed it. And I thought I would be harassed and followed. I was in a panic and I'm not the sanest of people. Anyway that was the reason. I'm not anti radfem, pro tranny, or a male. That's all, Goodbye.

I hate coming across interesting threads only to find they've been inactive for months. Regardless, i wanted to share my thoughts on the ex Radfem matter.
There are times where i've distanced myself from GC/radfems over troon obsession but i always realize it is everywhere and it's a major anti-feminist force. But there are bizarre/repulsive things in the movement i simply can't accept. Like millenial radfems seething over younger women/girls in the movement, making degrading comments on their bodies (on radblr, for example) or being pretentious. I've come to realize it's their way of dealing with bitterness and assume a 'mother' role of sorts. Pseudo-familial hierarchies are incredibly suspicious. Separatists would be the worst offenders but i also see this in more normie radfem groups.
I think that the deeper problem resides in how we define 'politics'. Politics is acting on the real world, incl. your intimate life but especially on women around you, in the workplace, in your 'community' . It's great if feminism makes someone leave their mediocre nigel or shave less or whatever but it's not political, at least not to the degree of actively supporting other women. This confusion between personal choices and politics is so deep that even in this thread, we see anons who otherwise fully agree on cultish tendencies argue over husbands. Yes, marriage is servitude but a married woman who volunteers for women or fosters independence in her daughters/friends is an effective feminist. It's nowhere near what we could do, but still.
Imo it's also why the obsession with who we date, makeup and apparent femininity is so prevalent in radfems. It's easy to pat yourself on the back for not wearing makeup, chastise women who do, it's harder to challenge the mean girl mentality which is ironically extremely girly. Radfems' denial of their own, deeply entrenched femininity is super fascinating to me.
I'm just confused by the anons who hate even the idea of platforming our ideas to the wider public. I don't know how to break it but the average person is right-wing, even if they think of themselves as moderate. There's a nonna who kept mentioning people who'd be turned off by GC moms. But who, exactly? I know for a fact normies do not care for trans acceptance and don't care about accusations of 'tradthottery'. I also know that your average libfem has zero political sense beyond sharing nice posts online. Politics (again, action) isn't a game of finding peoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

bump

Porn makes moids into pedos. It's so over for humanity.
>>>/ot/2475639

According to Linda Lovelace, her role in Deep Throat was forced on her by her abusive husband.

so i’ve seen this faggot before as another one of those carbon copy anti censorship otaku whiners. whose BPD geared him to streamline infantile 2d porn and kpop girls to compensate his failing career and for attention seeking of course

anyways pic related consooooomoids desperately wish and think everyone around them is lying. they think everything that goes against their libertine excuses is a fetish. a sexual repression. you show them an honest portrayal of sexual brutality and they lose their shit and need to center it to their fictional and private worlds (a fetish, a kink) because they themselves cannot distinct. posters like these are more akin to sexual harassers shitting up everything

>>26580
So the point is to vaguely not look like the porn your father likes and change yourself because you are the fault of pedofiles and autopedofile womens participation in porn and porn culture. That's a highly specific victim blaming porny solution to a porny problem. Shouldn't the actual solution be report them to the police, mock the disgusting autopedofile women who act in porn and call child protective services.

>>39005
>>38758
KAM

>>39265
Making softcore rapeporn of women in fiction isn't stunning and brave like you think it is. All fictional depictions of women suffering are jerk off material to men.

Ovarit is Closing
https://ovarit.com/o/Announcements/676340/ovarit-is-closing
https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/676534/a-few-alternatives-to-ovarit

>>38845
Good

>>38847
Why?

I do not feel bad for murdered troons who widowed their partners. They got exactly what's coming to them.

Kek just found out my personality zombie gendie coworker uses a binder. It's doing nothing for her, I almost feel bad for her.

>>39026
Should've mentioned this in my post, but I was thinking of technology such as CRISPR, where they cut out the bad genes and replace them with good ones or just "sew" the rest of the genes together after removing the bad one. So the child wouldn't carry it anymore. I was under the impression they do this in the womb, do they only do it using IVF?

>>39019
It’s not possible for men to give birth to a child though, they aren’t biologically designed to do such. The only role a man can have in reproduction is providing sperm. But our role in creating a child is growing your fetus during the 9 months of pregnancy and then giving birth. These two things along with breastfeeding and the whole postpartum experience are your literal physical initiation into motherhood and caring for a child; and these celebrities and other ultra-rich are feeling like they’re above that just because they can afford to pay a woman to do it for them.

>>39028
>Everything about surrogacy lacks the fundamentals about childbirth: love
Nonsense. Many children got abused by their mothers even when it was them that shit them

>>39021
I'm sure he has a hidden loli porn collection.

>>39021
I'm conflicted. I mean we have a chance to eliminate certain diseases forever and actually improve the gene pool. But only women should access. Men can rot with their AI waifus

Why do we have two threads for this? https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/22845.html

>>38409
there was an anti-surrogacy thread on /2x/ and an anti-surrogacy on /ot/, the latter was also moved on /2x/ for some reason

Excellent.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/17/surrogate-parents-too-afraid-to-return-to-italy-after-procreative-tourism-law
>The gay couple could be among the first Italians to be prosecuted under the law, enacted in early December, which extended an outright ban on domestic surrogacy by making it a universal crime that transcends borders, putting them on a par with terrorists, paedophiles and war criminals.
>The measure can lead to prison terms of up to two years and fines of between €600,000 and €1m (£500,000 and £840,000).

I feel like the more my mother socializes and talks with other women the more desensensitized she becomes with me. Our relationship becomes less tender. It make me feel worthless and sometimes i feel suicidal about it. Because I crave for mother love, and I'm seeking that from other older women. Just in case if mother doesnt love me anymore. I think she hates me in deep dowm, I feel like a burden to her. And if she learn my true self, my true feelings about myself and world around me… I have no idea. I love-hate her, sometimes I don't care about her sometimes I can't sleep from thinking my place will be replaced by other women. No women will take her place so I don't see any point in dating or making friends. I feel insecure

She is the best.

She was a terrible mother, but now that I'm an adult she's a good friend.
I can see now that she was desperately trying to keep her own head above water when I was young, and wasn't in a position to provide the support I needed. Now she's got less stress in her life, I'm capable of looking after myself and don't need as much from her, we get along well.
I always thought my brother was her favourite but it was just that his flaws aligned better with hers than mine did, if that makes sense. She had so many things to worry about at any given time that she forgot about us a lot. Promises she had made, things we needed for school, etc. My brother was impatient and would nag her over and over which served to remind her so he usually did get what he needed. I patiently held my tongue and waited for her to remember on her own, which she never did. If I had been better at advocating for myself it would have made a huge difference.
I've made my peace with the difficulties we had with each other in my youth, and while I will try to learn from them and do a better job with my own children, I don't hold them against her.

I feel guilty for wishing she did more to protect me as a child. She was stuck in this split between being a total doormat pickme for my dad but also genuinely caring for me and shielding me from his abuse. And no the former wasn't just a mask, she still goes out of her way to defend his opinions these days.

>>38891
i don't to talk to her. she was an abusive alkie when i was a kid, and it only continued into my 20s (i cut her off around 25). i told her i would talk again if she goes to rehab. she still hasn't. i want to make space for her, but it must be reciprocal. her eldest sister says she trembles after a few days of not drinking. i find it tremendously sad, to be honest. why does she need alcohol more than she needs a viable relationship with me? maybe she will die without me ever knowing. whenever she reaches out it feels like a trap. i've suspected more recently that she never wanted to be a mom. a few times she told me her relationship with my dad was my fault for being born and maybe it was like that back then. i won't pretend women's rights have been going well, and there's probably a lot unrecorded because men don't give a shit about the hell they inflict on women and make great efforts to conceal this, well… sometimes.

for my own sanity, i really cannot put myself in a situation where she can threaten suicide or lash out at me physically for emotional leverage if she refuses to do any work towards, succinctly, not doing that kind of thing. i gave it a good 15 years (from 12) or so. nowadays i find peace over our deteriorated relationship in my grandmothers, my aunts, my friends, and women in the knitting circle, silly though it may sound. i learned a lot from her, just not necessarily positive lessons (a bad example is still a lesson). mother's day is always a little weird emotionally for me, but i usually just gift things to the other wonderful mothers in my life. this year i did shareable plants (or, plants that propagate well) in little pots that were evocative of the women i gifted them to (pottery sets/styles they like, shells, etc).