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>>39371
if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out

bible's actually pretty good on this one thing it's just no christians read the bible

>>39371
Oh they know. They fully know. Being a tradwife doesn't pay so they HAVE to promote this lifestyle.
What you don't know and what I didn't know for a long time is that people can knowingly choose to lie and deceive and be a hypocrite if it makes them money. People are VERY self serving. I know there's cognitive dissonance until you realize people are just liars.

Seeing the biggest spergs of "da jooz" being Christians who think they discovered the word of god is so funny to me. They all come from the same Abrahamic root tree. Abrahamic denominations hating others of their kind? Now this has totes never been seen before in history. All equally as retarded. No Sarah and Mike you can't sperg about how da jooz are controlling Hollywood while also yelling at your kids they're being brainwashed by Satan when they tell you the Sunday school priest touched their no no parts instead of calling the cops.

>>40733
I always like the mental gymnastics they do when you tell them that "God" is just another name for Yahweh, who was originally intended as an extremely xenophobic Hebrew war god.

>>40739
It's literally just the equivalent of fandom sperging once you really think about it kek

>>40719
If a "radfem" is yelling that, then she's not actually on board with radical feminism

>>40720
I think you need to check out radical feminism on tumblr then because they regularly have hetfem vs separatist slapfights. Including 'babies on a plane' (if you don't like being stuck on a plane with a crying baby, you hate women and are a misogynist).

>>40721
ayrt, I'm actually pretty familiar with the goings on of radfem tumblr kek, a more recent one was about cooking fish in the office microwave iirc
I still stand by the idea that someone who feels personally attacked by female separatism has a warped idea of radical feminism tho, I think a lot of women who claim the label mostly would like to be "a part of the club" without actually understanding the ideas or applying the principles, which happens a lot with these things: think of the "can I have a boyfriend and still be 4B?" posts.
Like idk lady, can you? Do you even know what 4B means?
I think that women who want to have men in their own private lives can still participate in and make worthwhile contributions to feminism, but they have to understand that they're taking a risk, and that their willingness to put up with males in whatever capacity may not be shared by other women.

>>40723
I agree with that, but I also think at this point radfems are enabling those women to up numbers rather than sticking to their principles, to the point that that is part of radfeminism now and separatism is it's own distinct thing (and blackpill on the other side). Some like to argue radfeminism never really believed in separatism - Dworking getting married, Adrienne Rich coming out as bi etc.

>>40728
Fair point, I can see the reasoning behind separating (heh) separatism as its own thing, somewhat like a hardened version of radical feminism in which adherents actually commit and stick to the principles. It does annoy me a bit though, because it feels like conceding the term to people who are neither radical nor feminist. It seems like kicking the can down the road: when non-separatists start (as some have already) calling themselves separatist, will we have to describe what we do with a new term and let them have that one, when they reach a critical number and start to infest separatist communities?
Personal tangent, but at this point I just find it easier to claim no labels and get on with my day. I like radical feminist and female separatist ideas, I apply them in ways that make my life better, and that's it. In the end claiming you're one thing or the other means nothing if you don't back it up with your actions, and going a step further I'd say the only reason to claim a label like "feminist", "radfem", or "separatist" would be if you're an activist or at least trying to set an example for others. And that means having stricter standards and sticking to them in tangible ways, which is a whole different ballpark from posting on tumblr kek

>>40466
i'm bisexual and generally choose male partners just because i regard them as either stupider or uglier and therefore i am less intimidated whenever engaging with them. whenever i engage with a hot woman my heart starts going 150bpm and i can't think straight and i embarrass myself. would love to be with a hot butch but would never dare hit on the ones i know in case it's seen as overstepping the boundaries of the association and then I'm the problem for making them uncomfortable. Whenever males try to force unwanted sexual attention/escalation on our interactions I usually find an excuse to ditch them and I'm horrified at the prospect of making another woman uncomfortable like that. yes i am a coward.

>>40527
Sure, Jan.

>>40527
males should be the ones ur intimidated by actually

>>40527
Women are much more likely to experience rejection when pursuing other women and I think that's what intimidates a lot of people. But the fear of rejection is worth pushing through for those who truly want to find a same sex relationship. It doesn't work to be passive like with men who will actively pursue you anyway.

>>40466
So a safe psuedo male that will satisfy and cater to her but won't require the same. Unsurprising but still so shitty.

>>40608
Why are the only medium brown skinned women in this kind of inclusive art almost always hijabi/Muslim women? These people don't represent me fuck off

>>39110
I went through something similar, a girl I considered to be the closest thing to a sister to me (I don't have any sisters) also became a batshit crazy muslim. It started in school when she started going to the mosque and it was downhill from there, like wearing the hijab and insulting my religion.

I held onto this friendship for way over a decade because I couldn't bare the thought of leaving her but the final nail in the coffin for me was when she would side with the other muslim girls in our friendgroup who would bully the non-muslim "kafirs" in our group. My advice if you want to take it is to just let this girl go, she's no longer the person she used to be and she'll never go back to being that person. And since she's married then even doubley so because marriage just reinforces their religious extremism as their husbands and in-laws keep them on an even tighter leash. If she doesn't believe it now she will eventually believe her duty on this earth is to spawn more muslims and nothing else. She will have no hobbies, personality, or friends. Do not be friends with these people at any costs and do not fall into the trap of feeling sorry for them, not matter how good of a friend she was in the past. It will come at the expense of your time, money, and sanity.

Whenever I see small illustrators online trying to be inclusive by drawings hijabis I love sending them a message like: "hey girl uwu just a reminder that drawing faces is haram so hijabis would prefer if you didn't include them in this ♡" and watch them scramble to apologise and thank me for educating them.(only the black ♥ is allowed)

>>40681
I'm also going to start doing this.

The more you read on, the shittier it gets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/05/british-website-advertising-virgin-muslim-brides/

>>40644
I don't mean to be rude, but besides troonposting, the rest will be considered racebaiting if talking about things like DEI

What even is the purpose of this thread? If you mean "anti-woke" as in "anti-trans", there are multiple threads for that topic. If you mean "anti-sex work", that's the thesis of radical feminism to begin with and can be discussed in the original thread. Is this just a sneaky attempt at having a thread for racism and homophobia?

>>40653
I mean to be honest,all those other threads end up being racist and homophobic anyways

the legacy of manifesto-chan will always carry on.

none of the links work does anyone have a new one? pls i want to read

>>40613
The screencaps have been posted to the thread! Start here: >>17148
Happy reading!

>>40614
Hang on let me dig up the old mega folder, fuck jannies

>>40638 oh ok thank you!

>>40619
Yeah pull it nonna. He’ll troon out on you, better leave the sinking boat now than later.

>>40480
He was literally a faggot in the closet nonna. Don’t feel bad.

>>40625
I just don't understand moid nature, he knows I am a radfem and that I am "le ebil TERF", I even mentioned that I find nonbinary a joke, I am anti prostitution and anti porn. Why keep with me? That's what confuses me more, me pulling the plug is a certain thing, there's no turning back.

>>40628
>>40619
Nona. You don't like him, he's a gendie tranny autist scrote.
Leave him.

>>40628
This is just a guess, but I don’t think they take our strongly held opinions and beliefs that seriously. I have always been very clear that I don’t want children and when a man expresses interest in me I tell him this and that he needs to think about what that would mean for him. At some point I realised they never did, and they never really believed me that I wouldn’t just bend to what they wanted. I do t even think it was conscious, they just don’t seem to have that many well reasoned convictions themselves and so don’t truly believe that you hold yours

>>40591
Oh and not to mention, I don't think we can internally ever abandon the idea we're physically equal. Although yes, alot of Dimporhic science has some blindspots, i'm talking about how women perceive their own bodies.

There's no hope for women because they never choose it.

Hopefully my english is readable since I'm esl, but I really wanted to contribute something to the thread even if it's potentially worded poorly kek. Have any of you nonitas actually tried to start female only micro/pseudo societies? Last year we more or less started discussing the topic in the group I do irl activism with, and at first it seemed like everyone loved the idea, but it started to fall apart very fast. One of the first problems I found is that most women I know don't want any sort of formal structure in our female society. They tend to reject EVERYTHING male-made, to an honestly ridiculous extreme. I personally believe in observing what works in our current system, analyzing why it works, and maybe modifying some things if neccesary to adapt it for us. I think I'm the only one in my group who thinks this way, kek.
Another problem I encountered is that a lot of women have this idea of moving to the middle of nowhere and start living there, and while I understand the appeal of nature and all that, I think it's suicidal to just move far away from everything (specially hospitals) and leave everything behind. I wish it was possible, but just completely cutting ourselves off from the system doesn't seem like the best idea to me. I think we have to find a way to have our own thing while being aware that we are still inserted in a world with an already defined system and way of operating, and we can learn to take advantage of that instead of pulling a Christopher McCandless.
Anyway, here are a couple of ideas I have for a micro-society, that I think could potentially work. Basically what I wish I could convince my group of trying. I have more ideas, but I don't want to make this post even longer.

>Have shared savings.
Ofc you can have your own money, but it is highly encouraged to donate (potentially mandatory? kind of like a tax, but ofc the ammount would depend on how much each member earns). These funds are used for covering different necesities (for example, in my activist group we use our shared savings to pay for public transportation or buying things we use for our workshops/open activities). The idea would be to also use the money to eventually buy land/houses. Like I mentioned, my irl group already has something similar going, but I feel like most don't want to donate or just can't because (and this is another problem I see a lot) most have shit jobs and refuse to pursue something better o gPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>40593

>I personally believe in observing what works in our current system, analyzing why it works, and maybe modifying some things if neccesary to adapt it for us. I think I'm the only one in my group who thinks this way, kek.

If you don't honestly, I think you're bound to fail because no country or politcal body makes EVERYTHING from scratch.

>We have to find a way to have our own thing while being aware that we are still inserted in a world with an already defined system and way of operating, and we can learn to take advantage of that instead of pulling a Christopher McCandless.

Yeah, and have a set of goals and women understanding what they're up against. Reason why things fail, is because of lack of preperation and foresight. It's just retarded to believe that everything will be a utopia without an actual framework and plan. We'll get nowhere trying to take the whole system down without leveraging it to make our own.

>I've been reading about evolutionary biology and group adaptation (yes, Darwin's Cathedral) and I feel it helped me envision a bit more clearly what I want to achieve.

I think sociology/anthroplogy is closer to humans than biology, especially since the field is highly misogynistic and less useful in application due to the unique complexities of human life.

>>Have laws and rules, and our own written constitution.
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I actually love this. I never had thought of use of propoganda to flip gender roles. It was done to us, why not the other way around?

>>40594
>My only caviat is where would we as an online community help eachother and keep the movement/ideology strong?
Ayrt! In my activist organization, we use an Instagram account to publicize our activities and workshops, spread feminist theory, etc. My idea is to start talking with other radfem separatist groups from other countries that we follow on Instagram, so we can start to discuss topics like this and exchange ideas. I think it's better to try to build a society with women who belong to activist groups/organizations, since they have more experience working closely with others and most important, in a way they are proving they have the motivation to dedicate time to this project and hopefully take it seriously. I feel like that's also a good way of filtering potential free-riders that don't want to contribute anything to the society and expect it to build itself, or those who always find excuses not to get shit done (I admit those are present in irl activism too, but they tend to last very short and leave orgs on their own). Besides that, I'm doing my part and currently focusing on meeting more radfems from my country, sharing with them my ideas, and letting them know they can join our group and help with our proto female society. Also I want to start posting on our Instagram more about this and spread our ideas/plans for the society through there.
I feel like connecting with others irl is the best way to stay motivated, specially doing so with other women that read theory and have their ideologies well stablished (another requisite imo to be a member of the society).

Historical AGP documentary

>>39836
i checked out some of her other videos. big fan of the laid-back kinda feel they have.

>>40498
also alot of 2nd wave academia and talking points did inspire libfems too so that's what i mean by basis. Also comparing 1st wave to libfems is just a NO, they are too different.

>>40494
Get the fuck out of the thread already BJ-chan you fucking narc. No one wants you here. Why aren't you killing yourself? It's the best thing you could do for the world. This isn't your thread anymore, fuck off you incessant cunt.
>>40497
Kill yourself. You are retarded. You are a retard. You are not intelligent. You cannot engage in a real discussion, you are actually too fucking mentally disabled to be coherent, to be constructive, to say anything of worth.
>>40501
Think of what it says about you that you genuinely agree with someone who is too mentally disabled to participate in society, who plays Roblox and scrolls Twitter all day, and has the mental maturity of a toddler because her mother kept bottlefeeding her until she was 11. She is the fattest cow on this entire website.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

>>40496
BJ-pig wants to turn this into her personal retard playground all over again because her real life sucks.(ignoring farmhand warning)

>>40509
Yes BJ-chan, you were made to get fucked on all fours. You are a whore that loves giving blowjobs to all of malekind by worshipping them every single day of your female life about how much you love them, as a woman, and how great their cocks are. Pig.(ignoring farmhand warning)

As per >>40311 we have locked the thread due to your inability to stop responding to the cocksucker sperg. You have been told time and time again to report and ignore ban evaders and personalityfags and were warned that we would lock this thread if you did not stop.