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This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.
>What is gender ideology? Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.
Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.
Previous threads:
>>>/ot/2351915>>>/ot/2290853>>>/ot/2252408>>>/ot/2191693>>>/ot/2121106>>>/ot/2097274>>>/ot/2037097>>>/ot/1991983>>>/ot/1941872Relevant threads:
>>>/snow/2080821 MTF/TiM general
>>>/snow/2069705 FTM/TiF general
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thanks for new thread op!
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hate working in healthcare and having to remain crypto lest i risk my job and all my hard work going to the shitter.
Hate having to read about inclusivity statements and reading the fucking word "cis" in a professional setting.
I hate how fucking ingrained this cult is in our societal system and that one of the oldest women's shelters in our country had to placate trannies in their mission statement by allowing them in their emergency hotline services because true and honest wamen kept stapling dead animals to their facility and smashing their window in.
fucked up and cruel world, i hope these fucking freaks up and die already.
No. 2373634
>>2373601"We deserve to feel safe, except your cis bitches who use AFAB. "
It's like they're saying women need to be less than dirt. A woman is not allowed to be a woman or feel proud to be born a woman, only men can feel proud to LARP as women. This is utterly insane and I hope more women peak and wake up from this nightmare. Men will always be men. Also, I love how they are posting this when real women are literally losing rights over their own bodily self with anti abortion laws.
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>protect women and girls or get fucked.
>What a terfy thing to say! You should add your trans sisters!
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>>2373706These moids love to be the center of the Universe.
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Trannies and gendies are retarded. Nobody is assigned a gender role at birth, its the SEX. Suzy would still have a vulva and Peter would have a cock.
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No. 2374280
>>2374263i know it seems like it but there's been even younger children pretending to have tourettes after seeing it on tiktok. it's been going on for years
https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/q0v4b6/my_daughter_is_faking_tics_possibly_more_than/https://www.reddit.com/r/fakedisordercringe/search/?q=tourettes&cId=6a30ff27-5b25-46f8-9f8b-9caa0df00c23&iId=139709b5-4911-461a-b518-cea95f5f53b4i remember seeing a video someone posted on the sub above of their younger sister and her friend sitting around watching tiktok and casually faking tics over and over
No. 2374627
>>2374563i'm with you nona, it was nice to not have that ideology being shoved down your throat constantly back then. i genuinely miss those times even if i don't miss being a kid. there was a period of time where i mainly dressed in boys clothes, like my brother's old hand-me-downs, flannels/band shirts and ripped jeans, converse or tattered old shoes, ect. i generally had a masculine/gnc style in middle school. sometime maybe during or after that period i grappled with "what if i am a boy" but it never went further than that. i was a social outcast too and i know if i grew up in this troonified era i would have been absolutely groomed into the idea that i was totally 100% male simply because of how i presented myself. whether online or offline, i have a feeling people would have tried to groom me into that cult. i really dodged a bullet because even as an adult i think people tried prodding me about it but i would mostly dismiss it because i never cared about gender norms and i still don't, it just pisses me off how far it's all regressed into
>clothes, hair, makeup, hobbies is soo genderwhen i feel like the conversation began so far away from that. it's what begun to peak me is seeing what the conversation evolved into. "self-id is
valid, you can be whoever you want, if you like pink and girly things you are officially girl, dont question it. also gender is when hair"
this shit really fucks with people minds, and it's all for nothing. no one is born in the wrong body, they're just sick in the head. big pharma and surgeons laughing all the way to the bank as they do irreversible and unnecessary procedures to all walks of mentally ill life
No. 2374662
>>2374246>>2374280Even Amy Poehler's character in Deuce Bigalow did a convincing work than them, even than the theythem Ticsandroses. The character never felt good after a tic, specially for her Coprolalia. That asshole was enjoying saying curses.
>>2374563>>2374627Same here. "Your hobbies are not normal for girls, you are a boy instead" how about you stfu and look at women in my hobbies doing just fine?
No. 2374663
As someone who comes from 2012 Tumblr, I saw all the gender stuff slowly creeping in, being considered cool, then being considered cringe in that 2014 to 2016 span in edgy content, settling down to dust and then coming back full force post covid, this phenomenon still confuses me so much. I know that covid forced people inside and without nothing to do they fell too much into internet shit and that's why every internet niche stuff is now enshittificated but since I saw some stuff, I would like to hear your opinions:
>Do you think that people are starting to regret their troonism (social or surgical) but don't speak up? Or did some people fell that hard into the rabbithole?
>How do you expect the next 5 years to be? Do you think we will see more gender shit or people detrooning? And if so, do you think they will try to address that or swipe it under the rug as nothing happened and that was just a phase?
>Do you think that doctors would be held accountable? Or they will run away to never be found with sweet troon money?
Personally, maybe I'm a bit doomerish, but I think in the next years we will see a wave of suicide due to regrets and not due to muh dysphoria, but because you can't get tits and cocks back once they are chopped off and due to the medical frustration of being a big pharma junkie just to stay alive. TIMs can fucking perish, but the possibility of seeing women cry from their froggy voice and butchered chests makes my chest tight, yeah, they're traitos and yadda yadda but I consider them victims.
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>>2374657nta but same. i enjoyed his videos because the kids were all sweet but he seemed overly affectionate with them and he’s just weird in general
>>2374659>>2374121>>2373706>>2373634ayrt, the disgusting troon who posted that shit always goes on and on about this stuff on his stories. he’s a 6’2 MASSIVE man who tries
desperately to be alt, him and his tim friends whole lives revolve around the validation of handmaidens, yet he still has the audacity to post shit like that constantlyyy
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>Doing an art with a snake because trans rights are human rights
>Snakes only attack if they're in danger
Way to agree that there are Snakes in your cult/collective poisoning whatever you fighted for lol
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Trannies ruining everything per usual. I might be crazy but there’s the T behind the decrease of LGB acceptance and homophobic people use trannies as an excuse to shit on LGB rights. This is really so fucking unfair.
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>>2374889Sticks and stones might break my bones but surgeries and clothes do not change my gender.
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>>2374921I'm not trans, schizo. Learn 2 take a joke.
No. 2375103
>>2374563Same here, though I’m not ssa just a weirdo autist who got bullied by other girls for not girling properly so I thought I would be better off as a boy. I actually knew two TIFs back then and nobody took their identities seriously at all. Everyone referred to them by female pronouns and their real names when they weren’t around to hear it, even their biggest supporters. People talked to and about them like they were pitiable special needs kids. One of them wanted to be called Howl and even the teachers made fun of her for that. Both of these girls were extremely online weeaboos who lived their whole lives in niche online spaces where they could throw heavy filters on their selfies and fool other teenage girls into thinking they were smexxy anime bishies, either not realising or not caring that everyone who saw them in real life thought they were weird and pathetic.
It was clear to me that being a TIF would make me even more of a social outcast than I already was so I dropped it quickly. I can’t wait for transidentification to become uncool again so impressionable kids stop being suckered in.
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>>2375043I was joking about this comment
>>2374887 but I didn't want to mention it.
Federal government: Please be aware if you're married in USA because many countries do not consider same sex marriage as
valid/legal and might have some issue-
TRAs: Why don't they mention us? They're trying to erase us!
They're already training for Los Angeles '28 Olympics already.
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lol
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>lionesses eating a lion
>Is about trans people shit
It would be a kickass poster about women rights.
No. 2375846
>>2375336They have ruined any lesbian online space , everywhere you go it’s always a damn tranny praising his penis or saying that BDSM and “breeding” are the top tier lesbian experiences, it’s disgusting.
These creatures don’t know how to be sensual nor enticing, they’re vulgar , to the point that it comes off rapey and porn addicted most of the time.
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>>2375754>>2375852the artist says she made it after roe v. wade was overturned. of course modern liberal feminism can never really be just about women so she tacks other causes onto it, incl. the obligatory troon mention. picrel is the statement from her website.
No. 2375956
>>2375811have you asked her why she feels like she doesn't want to identify with being a woman?
Sometimes I think women don't get uplifted enough and that we are brought up to believe hating ourselves is absolutely essential in the woman experience.
Sometimes I think the main reason women poon out is self loathing. How often do you tell her she's beautiful and talk about how women are inherently superior to men?
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This was under a post of a tranny sharing a screenshot of a “cis lesbian chaser” who sent a message saying they were “cumming to tranny porn.”
This is why I hate trannies they’re literally vermin. Idc if it sounds like a-logging they sound like those Reddit rapists that say lesbians can date men too.
No. 2375994
>>2375811Seconding what
>>2375855 said. Do not freak out and tell her how much she's destroying her body, it'll only make her double down. The key to dealing with any clusterbee (which most troons are, statistically) is the "grey rock" method. Be bland and ambivalent; it won't reward her with attention and it will give her space to reflect and realize what a retard she's being.
No. 2376328
>>2375994AYRT and wow you actually called the cluster B diagnosis lol. I won't push back in any real way, then, I agree based on her behavior that might work better (despite wanting to grab her and shake her lol).
Would you suggest sort of just keeping my reaction to gendie shit close to "good for you" sentiments? Or even blander than that? I've sort of been doing the "good for you" approach.
No. 2376330
>>2375969>it’s not like lesbians have an aversion to dickI want retarded bisexuals to remain with no water for four days each time they say this kind of bullshit.
If it’s a troon he should just die.
No. 2376336
>>2375956AYRT, I do all of this so often. We're very close, and she genuinely is SO beautiful, smart, and funny. I try to let her know whenever I can. She does get EXTREMELY angry when I bring up women being superior to men or that I'm uncomfortable around men, unfortunately.
I think it's because of our mom, honestly. We both cut her off, but she has rampant untreated borderline personality disorder and it resulted in sexual grooming and abuse through our childhoods. So my theory is kind of that rejecting womanhood is a way to further distance herself from our mother.
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The trannies at Dana's sub are so retarded thinking they're somehow different than her
>Ehrmm Dana being non-binary and gay makes no sense! she's a woman married to a man!!!!
Yes, sir, and you're a grown heterosexual man with hair on your dick and balls calling yourself a dyke. Reddit: the place where you get permabanned from all subs if you dare to even imply a she/her man campaigning to "rape and kill all AFABS" might be a bit of misogynist, but if you're a man you can question any ugly woman's fake identity with no consequences.
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>>2376406Have you brought up male crime statistics with her? If so, what does she say to that? Does she really want to be associated with people like that?
No. 2376554
>>2376466AYRT, yeah it kills me in a lot of ways. She's honestly pretty quiet about the gender stuff (at least in person and around our family) and is truly and genuinely such a smart and self-possessed person. I really question how she ended up falling for this stuff, especially because she's very analytical and evidence-driven (to the point that she will often push back on some aspects of gender ideology or commonly held lefty political beliefs because the evidence is to the contrary). It's been going on for years, she has a lot of trans/gendie friends so I feel like it's social contagion mixed with mental health issues.
We're very close and I love her so much, so it's been hard to see this slowly happening over the years and not being able to really change it no matter what I try to do. I guess I should probably be thankful it's "just" the binder, and that she isn't trying to get a tit chop or destroy her health with hormones (for now).
No. 2376574
>>2376566AYRT Yeah, it isn't great. I'm happy I had a space here to talk about it because I genuinely feel like I'm going insane kek, I appreciate it.
I'm hoping maybe she'll come out of it in a few years, I was a pretty big handmaiden in high school until I got peaked (by the guy who raped me transitioning/coming out as "queer" kek) and snapped out of it. It might just have to run its course, so I'm hoping a binder is as far as it goes.
No. 2376609
>>2376592Thank you, also so sorry you had the same happen. The whole "troon assaulting one or multiple people in a friend group" happens way too often.
I heard that he was transitioning from an acquaintance my second year of college. He also assaulted another man who trooned out, classic case of AGP on AGP crime kek.
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As a Latin American seeing the reaction of white trannies to the current situation in the USA peaked me all over again. The way they use black and latino women to push their own movement by saying we look like scrotes so we are the same but now when there’s actual ICE raids and shit happening and even affecting the USA supply systems they continue to pretend their situation is exactly as bad if not worse made me reach a whole new tier of desire for total tranny death. Liz consent accident dong gones being an example.
All the ex neonazi trans communist cat girls should be forced to do hard labor in the fields to compensate for what the mass deportations are happening. If they tweet like this they should be automatically drafted to farm
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>>2376749One upside of Trump's presidency is No Dong's seething fests on social media.
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>>2376749The idea that trannies should cut in line for documents gets worse when you realize that the government can easily just revert the changes and send out corrected documents, like in picrel
>>2376817NTA but it's absolutely not "exclusively regurgitated by AGPs", so many straight and bi women call themselves lesbians because they like feminine/sensitive/"enlightened" men with long hair and she/her pronouns. It's like an infestation in the lesbian community that almost rivals the transbian problem, where both parties always find some way to bring cock-talk into the conversation, and then throw a shitfit when you say you don't even want to think about those things. Even if you don't want to cast the blame on them for the original idea, you can't deny that those women are perpetuating the claim that lesbians can like dick.
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I'm appalled by how trans people have been using the word "genocide". I know they've been doing this for a while but it seems to be getting worse. Prior to this year they used to say that "genocide" doesn't actually mean being systematically exterminated, but instead refers to a whole spectrum of things, including, like, "metaphysical" death. But now, it's like this word has been pushed around so much that it's been divorced from this original argument to, kinda nebulously, never really directly, mean actual, literal extermination. But then, if they're pushed on it, they revert to "oh, genocide can mean anything," all the while they continue freaking out more and more psychologically unstable people, encouraging them to form trans enclaves, buy guns, etc. It's a direct example of how indoctrination into trans also makes someone lose their natural abilities to observe reality or have logical reasoning. When you already believe that sex isn't real, and that words don't really mean anything, then it's like everything is up for grabs, including "genocide," to mean whatever you really want it to mean, in order to leverage it for a more exquisite sense of victimhood
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It's almost like they get it
No. 2376975
>>2376963
>you do not get to say you suffer the same as me simply because >'someone sharing your brain'(you)(I find it hard to believe DID is as common as troons seem to think it is)
>identifies with a body different from your own how can someone possibly be this dense. It's hard to believe someone typed this out in a non ironic way
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>>2376931Their overuse of the word “genocide” and “fascism” reminds me of the George Orwell quote in picrel. These broad definitions will only harm them in the end.
No. 2377110
>>2377090NTA residents of thoae who claim to have a fragmented personality disorder. Typically "headmates" or alters are those people that are delusional headcanon they have living alongside them as separate entities.
Or something.
No. 2377134
>>2377090Headmate means another identity someone has when they LARP Dissociative Identity Disorder, a fake sensationalized mental disorder. AKA, another person living in your head like a roommate.
So to translate, this troon is mad that women are calling themselves trans women because they claim to have the mental identity / soul of a troon living in their heads. Imagine explaining that to a normal person or someone from the 50s or a medieval peasant or something.
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>terfs talk too much about fgm
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>>2377158her further response
No. 2377177
>>2377055gdi you're right.
I always figured radfems were either birds of paradise who make the moid birds work for them and need to look like colorful retards easy for predators to see or bonobos, whose females will beat the shit out of any moid bonobo who acts too aggressively and will kick them out of their sex group where the nigelnobos raise kids they aren't sure are even theirs
No. 2377229
>>2377158I fucking hate that intersectional feminism has been hijacked by trannies. It's supposed to focus on specific issues that are unique to certain races/classes/sexual orientations and helping to unify and liberate ALL WOMEN from male oppression.
But of course she's a tranny handmaiden who would get mad if someone came to her and said that a TiM sexually abused her and she didn't use his preferred pronouns. I guarantee her "intersectional" ass would put a moid in a skirt over a non white woman because of 'muh cis privilage'.
Anyways, loving all the girls telling her off in the comments. She really has no place working with vulnerable women.
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>>2375336>>2375846It comes off as rapey and porn addicted because they are. Picrel, lesbian spaces are all but dead in modern year while pickmes and bihets cheer it on.
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>>2377500I could've written all of this, down to the supportive friend who likely suspects I'm crypto but has never called me out on it. I called one of our troon mutual friends male in a group chat and she liked the message kek. Wish they never fell for the T meme because they don't even look like normal fugly moids let alone anime bishies.
>>2377546It's disturbing how common it is.
I was one of these casualties, I self-inserted as these princely type characters a lot as an awkward baby butch. Picrel was my ideal, I wish I had appreciate butch handsomeness more beforehand but sadly I grew up in the era of Jammidodger and pooner madness on tumblr rip. No. 2377706
here to a-log bc one of the well-meaning useful idiots i know recently proposed the idea of hanging up 'we love you, trans people!' stickers all around town and it took all my strength of will not to go off on him in-person
like who is this helping aside from your own ego, bc you are demanding praise for being 'a good ally' by leaving a trail of sticker trash in your wake, and also boo fucking hoo, cry me a river, the US government doesn't have the 'T' on their website anymore. That's it? You're literally in a border state where ICE is gonna be the most active, the poor widdle twans girls are the ones you're worried about? ok. NOTHING HAS EVEN HAPPENED TO THEM compared to what other people are going through currently but i guess 'the government thinks sex is real' is enough to send the deranged genderspecial portion of the population spiraling. It's like they're salivating at the idea of ACTUALLY being oppressed because they've certainly told us all how terrible it was before, and now it seems those were their golden years. Unless MAYBE they were never actually oppressed, at all, by anything more than their own chronic mental illness. honestly fuck handmaids and handmoids and if i see any of his doofy handmade stickers around i plan to sharpie YWNBAW on them.
KATIE DOLOTOWSKI are the only two words you need to get shadowbanned on Youtube, you aren't even allowed to TALK about real examples of transwomen attacking women and children, but sure, cosplaying predators being told to get the fuck out of our bathrooms are the real victims here. make it make sense.
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I have never seen a TIM have stereotypical normie / basic woman interests and behavior like picrel, not even once. I have never seen a TIM have stereotypical nerdy fandom or bookish woman interests and behaviors either. Or just like women in general.
I'm not a conservatard or someone who believes pink = girl, but troon threads are interesting to discuss how women act overall compare to men. I never see troons minimize themselves, internalize their problems, bond socially, soften their language, latch on to aesthetics, or just act in any way at all that is like an actual woman. It's always male aggression, sticking to their guns in conflict, stepping over people socially, and obsessing over sex. Or hobbies like modding retro games, speedrunning, and VTubers.
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>I pass 110%
>I'm like real pretty as well
>I have a vulva
Sure, John.
No. 2377739
>>2377729>'And I'm like real pretty as well'really proving the above point about how abnormal moids act when they larp as women, I have never heard a woman bring up their physical attractiveness when it was completely irrelevant to the conversation like this. if anyone else did this it would rightfully be called out as the masturbatory ego-stroking it is.
imo it stems from an inferiority complex, this is NLOG behavior but turned up to 12. Deep inside, despite all their protests and claims to the contrary, MtFs know they're like a shitty Temu knockoff of real women & that's why they feel they have to constantly insist on their superiority. 'see, i'm like a hot girl who doesn't mind constantly being pestered for sex! i'll sexually service anyone for free,
and i share all the stereotypical moid interests like video games and porn, tee hee! please please please send all your troon-chasing porn addicts to validate me and tell me how they'd fuck me bc no real woman would so much as jiggle their greasy scrote balls with a 40-foot pole'
also the reason why they're obsessed with transbian/lesbian 'sapphic' relationships, they know that women's standards are astronomically higher than the tranny chasers and so having one lower her standards enough to fuck a troon is all the proof of 'passing' that their addled minds need.
But it'll never be enough. These people never end up happier than they were before because hating yourself to such an extreme that you change everything about yourself is fundamentally incompatible with the concept of self-love and acceptance.
No. 2377743
>>2377729also
>I'm not even sure what jail they'll put me in!maybe don't do anything that requires police intervention while you're in Japan then lmao. i guess that must be a difficult ask for him.
it is so clear that this person is just making up problems for themselves that don't exist. get the private onsen, it's for other people's comfort, not yours. The hotel staff doesn't give a shit. you won't have a problem with going to jail if you don't do anything illegal. literally this post was just made to milk other troons and handmaidens for sympathy.
No. 2377753
>>2377709This post reminds me of the time I (as a handmaiden) tried to make a joke like "how can trans women be women if none of them are obsessed with florence and the machine" and then got banned from that discord kek
>>2377722NTA but it's not about wishing female societal expectations on TiMs, it's that TiMs are beyond ignorant of the expectations at all. A TiMs "female" behaviour is structured on his own limited, warped, and horrifically male view of feminine social expectations (usually based on videogames and porn). Even an equivalent upper class white troon would never think to put vinyl self-care stickers on a stanley cup or have 75% of his wardrobe be off-white or beige because it's the "in" thing with the other women around him, and the same goes for any other female trends and interests that aren't completely pornified. I have yet to see a single TiM with an interest in any kind of fiber arts or scrapbooking/crafting, but I stumbled on three whole TiF youtubers yesterday while looking for crochet videos.
Even at their base, their hyper-masculine attitude shows through in the social behaviours AYRT mentioned. They're agressive male narcissists so they never try to socially compromise, adjust their behaviour to make other people comfortable, or
god forbid, blame themselves for something that wasn't their fault and couldn't be helped, which are all traits you'll find abundant in TiFs. Basically, it's male vs female socialization.
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>>2377729Kek this whole thing is hilarious. Who brings up their looks in this context?
>I have a vulvaAnd I bet he's going to show it to everyone without them asking to see it, tee hee. Something about the way this was worded makes me think he was planning to expose himself to women outside of onsens also, and is now worried that his travel plans will have consequences.
Picrel is a compilation of Tumblr reactions to the only good policy Trump came up with. The drama is totally necessary because none of them pass anyway.
No. 2377827
Average t4t couple
No. 2377831
>>2377574Oh yeah the ouji-to-TIF pipeline is definitely a thing. There’s a massive overlap between Black Butler cosplayers and women who wear ouji and just like with the cosplayers, I don’t know any women who primarily wear ouji who don’t at least identify as non-binary by now.
>>2377615What confuses me is that many of these characters are women, often lesbians, so why are TIFs looking at them and thinking that wanting to be like that makes them men? At least the straight girls who self-insert as Ciel Phantomhive are imagining themselves as males, but Utena and Lady Oscar are explicitly female.
>>2377753This will always be hilarious to me. TIFs are out there crocheting entire trans flag sweaters for their baby cousins and fake penises to stick in their own underwear and little amigurumi dolls with removable breasts and visible scarring to gift to their mastectomy surgeons while TIMs are either completely uninterested in fiber arts, or if they do join one of these communities, they crochet a single chain and post it, expecting (and getting) praise for literally the bare minimum. The two extremes of female and male behaviour respectively.
No. 2377919
>>2377754>intersex people are in danger somehow bc transphobiawhen you don't have enough problems conjured up by your own rotting brain to campaign for sympathy on so you have to literally co-opt the struggles of people with a verifiable medical condition in order to fear-monger, you know you're on the wrong side of history.
this is going to be so fucking embarrassing to have to explain to future generations. i cannot wait for the gender fad to be over with.
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>>2377729>>2377743He's so laser focused on that onsen it's suspicious.
No. 2378032
>>2377831>so why are TIFs looking at them and thinking that wanting to be like that makes them men? >but Utena and Lady Oscar are explicitly female.Either one, two or all reasons below:
1. Media literacy, troons - just like most terminally online idiots - have zero, and thus can't understand nuance in character nor the point of characters like Utena and Lady Oscar.
2. Just like most fandoms today they don't understand the concept of a headcanon, and believes their own believes on characters are the canon take even when heavily disproven. And in this case, gnc characters = troons. Or believe the creators don't "realize" they are writing tranny characters, unlike their own enlightened selves.
3. They haven't even seen the shows, they just aware of the aesthetics.
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Talking about trans paranoia, Aiden, you're going to be just fine. Be more worried about your rights as woman instead.
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>>2377831>little amigurumi dolls with removable breasts and visible scarring to gift to their mastectomy surgeonsOne of my favorite TIF posts. A woman spending hours crocheting a thoughtful intricate little doll (for use as a possible teaching tool in the comments). To give to a likely male surgeon who works 12+ hour long shifts cutting people up and doesn't give a fuck about her personally.
The very few TIMs I ever see in fabric arts groups will post a lumpy unblocked poorly-made troon flag for Reddit updoots and never post again. Or they will do they whole "Am I WeLcOmE HeRe As A TrAnS WoMaN??? [sad face emoji]" post on a subreddit while handmaidens give countless comments of support. As if troonphobia isn't directly banned in the Reddit ToS?
No. 2378501
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>As someone on the smaller end of the fat spectrum
No. 2378654
>>2377755I don't think I am, I think if you really want to know whether someone is living up to social expectations of woman, you have to be aware of the many different expectations of woman.
The woman describing in that photo is both non-existent in my circles, a sought after style, and simultaneously derided as bougie if fully achieved. It's complicated. I think avoiding this general disposition would be adhering to social norms where I live, but I guess that's not the case for op
No. 2378963
>>2377709This is so true. Even when I do see TIMs in female dominated hobbies, they do it in the most male way possible. I've seen some in groups dedicated to EGL and BJD/other doll collection, and their posts are always either some degen fetish stuff or the most low effort shit that they expect to be complimented on. When it comes to fashion or makeup, the only ones with any sort of skill are drag queens, but they always follow drag queen trends and could never do whatever is actually trending like clean girl, and the rest don't have any sense of style and don't even try to look up what actual women are doing. Also it's funny how I've never seen TIMs interested in J-fashion outside lolita, I could bet my next month's salary that it has something to do with the name…
Ngl it feels bad to even call them out on upholding backwards gender norms cause no TIM ever does those actually stereotypical female things. I've seen no tradwife TIMs, none with Stanley Cups blasting Sabrina Carpenter, none actually wishing to become a mother in a way that isn't about some mommy fetish shit or ~feeling validated~. Like, sure, they still wouldn't be any more women but maybe I'd understand it better why some people think they are, but this whole bimbo slut schtick just makes me confused about how anyone can fall for it.
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Ok so I'm not in the US so I'm wondering: how is this legal? This could count as substance smuggling and abuse in my country and highly frowned upon, to me it's like seeing online tutorials on how to cook meth or melt crack, it's insane and it's going into people's bodies? Holy shit.
Plus the Long Chu quote is absolutely gorgeous, rich words coming from a fag that likes to dress up and says that women are just a hole that waits to be fucked.
No. 2379297
>>2377831>What confuses me is that many of these characters are women, often lesbians, so why are TIFs looking at them and thinking that wanting to be like that makes them men? At least the straight girls who self-insert as Ciel Phantomhive are imagining themselves as males, but Utena and Lady Oscar are explicitly female.I genuinely think the ones aiming for female princely type characters and the ones cosplaying as Ciel or whatever are different. ayrt,
I am lesbian and for me it was more that I wanted to be less feminine. I had a really high pitched voice and hated my natural body shape, I wanted to be more "androgynous" and fell for the meme of low dose T. It's sadly quite common for butches nowadays to do the same.
No. 2379298
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>>2377937>her external genitalia appear femaleRotpockets don't pass unless you are blind. Picrel, nsfl warning
>how would mom know she was born with male genitaliaBy literally just looking at him kek
No. 2379320
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>>2379308SRS disasters is a horrifying rabbit hole to go down. Picrel (again nsfl) but idk how trannies get off claiming these are "designer pussies" when they look like actual nightmare fuel.
No. 2379445
>>2379298Dude spent his life savings for a "clean" wound kek.
Anyway I wonder if there are any "lesbians" who had sex with these things, besides the uglyness of it, I cannot imagine touching pussy with a pocket that's filled with pus, hair and comes from the intestines. It's a biohazard.
>>2379320The fact that one can tell how this is a wound, they are made from doctors who never saw a pussy and it shows, they think that pussy it's just a pink slit, everyone can see there's something wrong with it.
No. 2379487
>>2378651These mastectomy surgeons are notorious for ghosting and/or gaslighting their patients when they have surgical complications. They don’t care about the patients at all and that thing is going in the trash.
>>2378963I’ve seen TIMs who like the tradwife aesthetic, especially if it involves 50’s housewife-style clothes, but none who actually cook or clean or do any of the other tasks expected of housewives. They’ll take a fetishy selfie with a feather duster and then flop back onto the couch to play video games. Even the old school HSTS I know refuse to do the dishes because they don’t want to risk damaging their nails. Housework is for frumpy, unsexy cis women like their moms, not glamorous ‘dolls’ like them.
>>2379370Smart HSTS like Blair White keep their penis because they know being a ‘chick with a dick’ is their whole appeal.
No. 2379517
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>>2379320Oh wow, Silence of The Lambs 2025 remake WHEN?
(spoiler your shit) No. 2379520
>>2377937I love how Japan makes those people seethe. And yet they keep on consuming anime & games from a country whose culture they view as 'backwards' and 'bigoted'.
>>2377739Such a woman would be labelled a
vain bitch or simply a troll fishing for flamewars and attention.
>>2377956Post-op trannies should be banned from onsen too.
No. 2379536
>>2379521>she wishes to get her tits cut off so that she can wear breast plateCompletely misunderstood this at first thinking she meant armor and was confused because correctly fitted breastplates accommodate breasts. Wanting to cut off your breasts just to wear those fake silicone breast shirts part time is dystopian, no offense to your friend.
>"breasts are just in the way and they're not useful in any way"Is your friend medically literate? Like if you give her information about post-mastectomy mobility problems/Chronic Upper Extremity Disability, will she be able to understand it and apply it to her own life? "Top surgery" is prescribed as this perfectly harmless Mrs. Potato Head thing in gendie spaces and she wouldn't be the first to fall for the lie.
No. 2379622
>>2379536AYRT, there's no offense in facts. I can't think of anything sadder than wanting to replace your natural body parts with men's fetish gear. I'll try to look up some information about the side effects and bring it up the next time we talk about this stuff but idk if it'll help, a lot of her friends have done the surgery ppl and are seemingly happy, and while she always understands my point of view when it comes to these issues, like for example she agrees that most gendies have internalized misogyny, she always thinks she's somehow the exception and that her gender experience is real and that any side effects would be worth it.
>>2379596>Guys aren't lining up in droves to cut their balls off just because they get in the way and are "not useful"This is actually such a good point. I see so many women removing even necessary body parts like their uterus even though it will fuck up their hormone balance just because it's "not useful" in a sense that they don't wanna have kids, but I've never seen a moid removing his prostate even though a Trve Woman doesn't have one and it will just give him cancer in the end. I wish women cared about their health and safety the way males care about their coom.
No. 2379658
>>2379596seconding
>>2379631 but also just misogyny. men don't feel the need to get their testicles chopped off for being "useless" even when they choose not to have kids, because they are not told over and over that their body parts are only for other people's use. for women you get told your breasts are for men to ogle or for feeding babies, they are never really "yours"
No. 2379745
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nonas i am in a biology class and my fag moid lab instructor assigned us this insufferable shit president trump if you can hear us please save us
No. 2379784
>>2379766You can tell they're imagining themselves reciting the text as a """revolutionary""" speech before they storm the doors of
TERF HQ or something kek. The Light Yagami ass prose combined with the poor understanding of spoken word structure.
No. 2379785
>>2379372Men never stop, huh
I hope he gets the death penalty or is killed in male prison
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>>2379745I found the sauce. Read the rest here
https://www.sciencefriday.com/articles/sabrina-imbler-ocean-memoir/>We hold cardboard signs that often prioritize the specificity of our message over easy legibility, and we crane our necks to read the message in full, because we know it will be worth it: sex work is work airbrushed onto a crinkly pink dress and eating ass is the only ethical form of consumption under capitalism in bubbly letters on black card- stock. We meet in a part of Manhattan many of us have no business in, a patch of green surrounded by glass-fronted stores and metallic offices, and once there, we grow larger, friends finding friends and water-getters winding their way through an obstacle course of bodies. We swarm because we are full of the joy of being together, full of anger at the systems that exclude or endanger us, full of hope for the possibilities of the future. There are no metal barricades to keep us from unspooling onto sidewalks, brushing up against luxury soap stores that have steeled themselves against our arrival. No. 2379795
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>>2379790The author MUST be a tranny
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>>2379790What is this title? Are trannies ugly fucked up deep sea creatures?
No. 2379823
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Aside from her already incessant libfem bullshit she's especially egregious when it comes to being a handmaiden. She's male centered as fuck. No mention of tifs or theyfabs, just tims and drag queens. Ironic considering how most of her fanbase is female yet somehow she owes it all to her preshus twanzwimmens. She also got flamed hard by said tims for making music that was somehow too pussy centric for whatever small minority of tims actually listen to her music. You'd think that'd be a wake up call.
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I'm still wondering why intersex people still want to ally with trannies. Aren't they the ones who took the afab/amab term and give you more troubles to explain that you have two genitals but none of them work?
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>>2379795They're imagining themselves like some les miserables revolutionaries kek
No. 2379927
i can only imagine
>>2379795 peaking the fuck out of everyone in that store. basically a gaggle of troons runs in, barricades themselves in the women's bathroom for ??? however long it takes to change clothes and do their beauty routines, all the while claiming they 'just need to pee'. Nobody else in the establishment can use the women's restroom, the manager is banging on the door telling them to come out, they're ignoring him completely and he's too afraid of a lawsuit to do anything more. finally they exit in another smug stampede. the bathroom's covered in glitter and body paint. one of them moves their mouth silently at the cashier on the way out and would like credit for the apology now, please.
No. 2380039
>>2379631Nta and you’re not wrong but a significant number of TIFs, as well as the woman I know who had her uterus removed because she “wasn’t going to use it anyway”, have dropped out of the rat race (almost) entirely to become full time munchies. Many of them were perfectly healthy before they decided to just stop trying and only developed health issues later as a result of their lifestyle (which certainly includes the trans stuff). With some of them I’ve actually wondered if transitioning isn’t itself a form of munching; even surgeries that aren’t botched can leave patients bedbound for a long time and of course the whole thing comes with instant sympathy and
victim status. Many TIFs become unemployable due to their health issues. The woman I know with the hysterectomy seemed miffed that the procedure went so well she was able to go back to work after like a week. She’d had a whole BG3 marathon planned, apparently. These aren’t people who want to function at peak efficiency; they rather tend to be people who have no ambition to contribute anything to the world and want to be praised as brave heroes just for existing.
>>2379658This is definitely true. If all your life you’re told that breasts are for men and babies, and you’re not interested in having babies and would really like to escape male attention entirely, removing your breasts could appear to make sense. The woman I know with the hysterectomy also considered a double mastectomy for the same reasons (“don’t need them”) but dropped the idea because her wife likes her breasts too much. Even in the absence of moids, many women are more concerned with being sexually appealing to others than with their health and bodily integrity.
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>>2379823When you’re at a dicksucking competition, but your opponent is Chappell Roan.
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POV: You're a vagina and picrel is Chappell Roan
No. 2380422
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1/2 I saw the tv glow troon is a violent pos?
No. 2380494
>>2380422>>2380424What does this mean? You mean the tranny who wrote and directed I Saw the TV Glow is
abusive? But the video in picrel is calling him a straight man which would not be flying with the troons and troon allies on tiktok. Where is the proof that this was about the tranny TV movie troon?? I'm lost. Are you talking about the second comment? That's just another way to say "he's an egg" ie he's totes a tranny on the inside.
No. 2380580
>>2379658I know some moids who even doesn't like the idea of neutering their male mascots because "muh masculinity" and very few people mock them. But a woman wouldn't care if their female cat or dog gets sprayed because they don't place her femininity on her pet.
Now I wonder if there are trannies with jealousy on their pets because is easier to neuterize/spray.
No. 2380615
>>2379745hi nonnies op here! thanks for all your wonderful replies they uplifted my spirit. the professor turned out to be a TIF so everything makes sense. i now have to write a reflection on the book and i wish i could write about my deep seated hatred for tranny fags who write like this and operate like the universe is built around them but unfortunately i will have to wax poetic about my white decolonial irishness or how i as a cis lesbian should violently throw myself down the stairs. there also is a hulking tim in my class and something that always gets me w/ tims is their insistence that science and biology are on their side, that gender isnt socially constructed and is somehow real because muh feemale brain or whatever but how their entitlement and privliege reeks off of them just as much as their lack of deodorant. they will always interrupt and speak over women, never let women get the last word, and ofc when i wanted to ask the prof a question he was waxing poetic (not letting the tif get a word in, obvi) about his vision of transformational pro trans justice cyberpunk futures or whatever. no im not joking. i go to a historically womens college so i see people on both these ends constantly and while i used to be an ultra supportive gendie words cannot describe how much familiarity has breeded contempt for me. i cannot stand these nasty miserable hypocrites that preach about trans joy yet mutilate their bodies and act as though the existence of women is somehow a constant affront and reminder that they WNBAW even thoigh they are oh so super duper
valid. i literally can’t stand it anymore. i hate this college and i hate tranny fags
No. 2380679
>>2380665>pop music for females is all gendie handmaiden shitFuck. Back in the 90s/2000s a girl could be successful and make songs about how moids are bad and deserve to die.
Shit sucks now.
No. 2380722
>>2380687Oh I would love to hear more recs
nonnie! We have similar taste. There’s music threads in /m/ if you want to share
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>>2379745terfs and ICE put on the same level… Lul wut. these narcs really think women who have boundaries are satan
No. 2380846
>>2380615i feel for you, nona, i went to art school and i 100% understood what conservatives meant about 'libtards' by the time i was through. most of my friends will never know i am gender critical lmao, if they ever found out i'd be excommunicated and violently raked over the coals. tbh i think a lot more people peaked in the past 5-10 years than are willing to admit it, we're just all too damn cowardly to talk about it. as many criticisms as i have about the left, maybe if we'd been braver about divesting ourselves from outright insanity then more people would be willing to ally themselves with us and we wouldn't be under the thumb of Mump currently.
>>2380836had my ambassador to the genderspecial population tell me today that conservatives were literally out to murder trans youth, it was obnoxious as fuck. other people are actually getting sent to guantanamo bay and you're bitching because they won't let you call yourself Thing X on your paperwork. huh???
these aren't real struggles but troons are prioritizing them over ACTUAL suffering and
VALID concerns because they can't conceive of a world where their own self-interest doesn't take priority over everyone else's concern for the greater populace. truly dregs of society behavior, it's on the same level as MAGA rats who complain because Ukrainians have gotten financial aid from the US but they've never received free shit so how dare it go to starving children??
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These trannies are so weird about billie, she's always worn baggy shit. They just push this retarded shit on gay and bi women per usual
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>amazing
No. 2380875
>>2380869wish this wasn't coming at the cost of womens rights.
Trannies were the trump card for misogynists. They deployed it because women were getting too powerful. The troons pushed feminism from a leftist cause to a politically orphaned cause.
I hate men. So god damn much.
No. 2380896
>>2380882Ask her to describe what it's like to "feel like a man" and what is it that she thinks makes her a man. Ask why a woman can't feel, act, dress, be like whatever she wants to be. I've noticed that making them actually think it through is the best way to help.
Also, I got out of my troon psychosis after scrolling through a lot of TIF threads so no need to wear silk gloves. I hope your sisters will come to their senses
No. 2380897
>>2380882i’m sorry nona.
if it’s possible to talk to her without getting pushed away, i’d tell her the lifelong effects of testosterone and surgery. vaginal atrophy, inability to scream or sing, osteoporosis, destroyed breast tissue, etc.
for me learning about and seeing actual images of things helped the ugly reality of trans procedures sink in, rather than daydreaming about my idealized self that would never exist.
you might get better advice in detrans spaces.
you’re a good sister and i wish the best for you guys
No. 2380910
>>2380882Replying to myself, she got sexualized a lot when she was a teen/tween because she was bustier than me and literally like 15 minutes before she told me she wanted to be a he/him lesbian she told me that she hated teen boys because they would harass her and make gross comments towards her. I understand how the harassment drives her towards wanting to escape her female self, but I don't understand how she could understand men are garbage and still want to transition.
>>2380896I'll try. She never said she wanted to be a "trans man," just he/him lesbian, she also talked about having dreams where she was a man. I'm worried this is just "being a masculine woman" to her. She's also a bit invested in femme/butch roles so I feel like that plays a part in it. When I cut my hair short recently (I'm straight) she made a bunch of jokes about how I'm butch now and I laughed, but now I'm thinking she really does take those lesbian roles very seriously.
>>2380897I'll try to convey these to her without upsetting her. Thank you for the support.
No. 2380988
>>2379753Seriously.
>>2380981Bukowski would be a sissy cd were he born in the 80s.
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>>2381015Was not expecting to see the words succulent labia fold this evening
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>>2381015>You fell for the bait believing her thin trailer park lips has ever touched a succulent labia fold in her pathetic existence.Beautiful
but, tbf I cut billie slack since she never lied about being a lesbian I believe, she's bi. which I can kind of live with
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>>2381036I haveeeee to see this interview nona lmfao. she's so milky
No. 2381042
>>2381022She kind of reminds me of Katy Perry who had a similar background to Chappelle, both grew up in the middle of no where and had a conservative/christian background. Katy even did gospel music for awhile until she evidently sold out to become a vapid pop idol. She and Chappelle are very similar in the fact that their careers were very manufactured and didn’t have much longevity and will be a cruel reminder of the times on when we allowed this gimmicky shit to pass again. She’s able to subsist without much backlash and judgement because we’re practically surrounded by submissive emotionally unstable queerios, pozzed shitheads and gendies who are so obsessed with being different and rebelling against their privileged backgrounds that her music and image speaks to their very heart. I think lesbian music is necessary but holy shit, it just feels so manufactured, fake, desperately needing to be different, she’s definitely not a lesbian kek.
>>2381026Ugh of course, she’s obsessed with ugly loser bastard men just like every Hollywood babe ever. I think she will date and be with men into the end of her life anon, I doubt she’s really bi.
No. 2381057
>>2380910ive heard that breast reduction surgery can dramatically reduce the desire for a full double mastectomy in TIFs, and quite a few apparently desisted from gendie stuff altogether afterwards. obviously the best case scenario would be for her to accept her body as is, but if that's not possible, using the reduction as a "compromise" could help.
>>2380897also seconding the emphasis on health and adding weight gain, dramatically increased rates of heart attacks, sweatiness, painful clit swelling, and overall inability to control what you end up getting from HRT even if its "just" low-dose t (she might hate the idea of having facial hair but end up getting it away; she might want a deeper voice but end up with frog).
>>2380910you sound like an outsider to whats happening in the lesbian community so let me fill you in: masc lesbians are being very heavily meme'd into taking testosterone and calling themselves he/him. many dont actually identify as men/nonbinary outright, instead opting for the "transmasc" label (which is more of a woke way to say "butch", though there is somewhat of a reluctance to calling themselves women outright too). this is an especially huge problem in butch/femme spaces, which has been all but overrun by every breed of troon out there intent to convert everyone else into one of their own. shes probably sorely lacking in butch role models and just trying to do what every other butch shes seeing is doing right now. this might be controversial, but i will also say that placing a lot of importance on the "butch" label with the community in its current state is probably doing her more harm than good. you already feel like the odd one out being a butch woman in the wild, so involving oneself in the butch community and doubling those feelings of alienation (with everyone else being a gendie except you) probably breaks some reasonable neurons. if she can just be butch without specifically involving herself in those spaces, that would be ideal, though its a shame that what was formerly a space to find comradery in has been reduced to this.
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No. 2381225
>>2380849Crystal methamphetamine.
>>2380882Ridicule her mercilessly.
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No, dumbass. No one takes feminine “trans men” seriously because they’re women in the flesh larping as femboys. “Trans women” are wank fodder and men just want to deflect the fact that they’re chasers. And feminine gay men are just fags.
No. 2381263
>>2380615I would do a rigorous 'call-in' critique of the book from a class consciousness/Marxist perspective. That Panera bread bathroom lockdown thing could feed at least a paragraph of 'our community should stand in solidarity with the working class instead of trampling all over fellow precariates'. Really critique the tribalism and the esthetics over class solidarity and cross-boundary community building efforts, and try to find all examples where the troons behave in typically moidish ways and then (without using direct
terf rhetoric) point out the ways these were missed opportunities on showcasing feminine leadership and pro-social community building and nurturing. Basically call them the privileged white troons they are.
No. 2381438
>>2381409It was an exaggerated comparison, if you want one that's less serious than a hysterectomy then, sure, removing wisdom teeth can lead to permanent nerve damage and chronic pain even though the procedure is necessary. I do not give a shit if you personally want to remove body parts, go fucking nuts, but saying that it's probably for the best that most healthy women keep their uterus and ovaries so they don't have to pay for regular hormone replacement and to avoid a surgery that has a pretty high chance of causing you to be incontinent, give you a bladder infection in the healing process, causes higher chances of prolapse, thromboembolic events, and lipid abnormalities has nothing to do with wanting women to be tied down with children.
Also "without vagina"? Ruby Realgirl is that you? Have you seen the results of a nullo surgery? It doesn't tend to turn out well.
>Not everyone cares about flicking the beanExcept
you do because why even bring it up. I'm talking about organs not sex or childbirth.
No. 2381494
>>2381438Just ignore her. She's that one misogynistic female-hating schizoid that's been VPN hopping and ban evading. I really don't understand why she chooses to go on
here of all places. Reddit and Tumblr are more likely to tolerate her retardation.
No. 2381568
>>2381494In reddit she can't feel like nlog cause all the other girls are like her there.
>>2381521What else is it than misogyny wanting to get rid of your bodyparts just because they're female? I'm waiting. Sorry Rain Autumn Charles August Dementia, no one will ever call you with emoji pronouns irl.
No. 2382058
>>2381695I don't know if all the users are black and white or it's just one mega sperg, i swear I think I see this same user on multiple threads.
But hysterecomies are absolutely retarded to get if your only gripe is pregnancy or periods. That's why doctors are usually against them. I don't think the "future husband" argument is used much in modern day, most doctors are pretty forward about it just being a huge health hazard unless you've got something worse like cancer. In terms of contraception almost literally anything beats it.
No. 2382116
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Wow, we absolutely DID see this one coming. Anyone involved in tranny media inevitably troons out themselves.
No. 2382155
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I fucking KNEW it kekkk, I just knew the same trannies Chappig constantly dicksucks would find a way to shit on her for not tongueing the balls enough on top of it all. This is what troonmaidens deserve, know it's all for nothing and no amount of grovelling will ever be enough.
also, fuck celebricows anons that shit up the thread every red carpet with literal whos and then don't make a new thread afterwards
No. 2382187
>>2382155She annoyed me with her talk. I mean good on her for not talking about troons but healthcare "for artists"? Why not healthcare for everyone regardless of their career? Stupid bitch is not only a tranny handmaiden and the worlds fakest lesbian, but also a fake weegeewife to boot.
She can go fuck off.
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>>2382155I was pleasantly surprised when she talked about something important like health care and the LA fires instead of making life harder for the lesbian community by screeching “COMPHET!! MUH TRANSWAMANZ!!!!”. Can she just troon out already so lesbians can be left alone?
No. 2382319
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>>2382305retards replying to bait and encouraging personalityfagging isn't fun, it just shits up the site. no one finds it fun to read endless circular arguments.
No. 2382335
>>2379823I find it so fucking funny because her listeners are either girls or fags which yes, troons can fall under the fag category but not the agp for sures and they're the ones calling themselves trangirls. No straight man in a dress listens to her, so fucking weird, because all of her songs are from a pseudo girl who is in love with straight girl pov, something they cannot relate to unless troons they are former incels, Billie Eilish writes gayer stuff than her and yet no troon listens to her, she's trying to beat some twittard
terf allegations to not lose money and swipe under the rug that her family is republican, she is so afraid to be dropped again it's almost cute.
No. 2382379
>>2382338Is it even a tinfoil if it's just true? Women who barely acknowledge troons don't get half as much shit as women who dicksuck them constantly. Their moid brains recognize a handmaidens meek retarded submission and exploit it for all it's worth. Ironically, this is how JKR peaked, people forget she was one of the biggest wokies/troonmaidens, constantly online validating everyone's agp black autoimmune disease headcanons for Hermione on Twitter until she snapped.
My suspicion is troons hate troonmaidens despite constantly bitching about how there's no "cis female chasers", because deep down they know none of these women see them as one of us, and they find the constant pandering infantilizing and insulting.
No. 2382404
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>check up on a youtuber i haven't seen in a bit
>was a guy into girly media because he grew up with sister's
>has a girlfriend he calls "partner"
>he calls himself a horse girl
>he ha stapled on bullet tits now
I honestly should have seen it coming but it's so disgraceful since he reminded me of my own brother who hankfully isn't retarded enough to troon
No. 2382448
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reading up on the alpaca ranch incident and trannies boiling plastic bags in order to get DIY hormones, do you think there will be a repeat of events where a bunch of trannies make a horse ranch and make an actual horse piss cult.
No. 2382740
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i continue to lose sleep over the wikipedia page for the cheshire murders being locked because one of the murderers HAS to be referred to as "she" now or it's a hate crime. fuck wikipedia
No. 2382742
>>2382680I absolutely did. I was such a handmaiden. What peaked me was reading things online (like here and news, even [old] academic studies about things like AGP) but, even more than that, it was hanging out with troons. One of my best friends was a tim (still is, we're just not bffs) and a bunch of people in my close circle (all in our 30s) trooned out. I also lived in a massively troon-friendly city and there was just… a lot of them. And they're all INSANE. Misogynistic and gross and so clearly living out their fetish at the expense of women and girls. It's disgusting.
I could only have so many conversations about how trans people are the REAL
victims of misogyny and how they were REAL women and just as legitimate as me and so on and so on before I cracked. I moved away and have stopped talking to a lot of people. I haven't come out as gender critical because it would ruin my career, but it's ruined a lot of my friendships nonetheless. It makes me sad.
I can't wait for the pendulum to spin back around. It makes me really sad for my friends who'd had surgeries and ruined their bodies (or straight up already killed themselves) but it will be so much better for society.
No. 2382753
>>2382680I used /snow/ and /pt/ in like 2017 and lurked the old pinkpill threads despite being a libfem at the time. It gave me some mild cognitive dissonance but what really did it for me was reading what JKR said when that whole "JKR is a
TERF" fiasco first happened. I found what she wrote perfectly reasonable and was shocked at the absolutely vitriolic backlash she got from people who didn't even take the time to read what she said. I was already starting to be mildly skeptical of troon shit but it also got me interested in reading more feminist theory. I pirated a bunch of Dworkin's books over the pandemic, had a brain blast moment, realized moids are not our allies even if they throw on a skirt, and never looked back
No. 2382771
>>2382680Despite being a lolcow user and a frequent orbiter of the tim and tif threads I still believed that most trans people were normal and the weirdos were the exception. When I began lurking radfem blogs the concept of insecure people being a
victim of the medical industry and given a bandaid solution in order to have the perfect pay pig as well as the whole "gender feelings" peaked me. If you're asking this to help peak a friend, I think the argument of a medical system intentionally worsening a societal problem to sell a solution is a very good way to get people thinking. It's how I peaked several of my friends. A lot of people don't want to invalidate other people's experiences, but they are more willing to be critical of a system that may worsen a problem they weren't previously aware of.
No. 2382892
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>three black twans women were killed in 2023! genocide!
quick google search
>1821 Black women killed in 2020, or 5 per day
>8 femicides per 100k black women
No. 2382917
>>2382379For some reason, pickmes don't understand that men hate pickmes. Men enjoy the hunt and the control and a woman who willing submits to men is viewed as pathetic.
>>2382389Men (TIMs and otherwise) don't what women to willingly give up their spaces. Men want to forcibly take them and ruin them because they have the mentality of rapists/are rapists. TIMs hate handmaidens because they know they're lying when they say "We see transwomen as real women!"
No. 2382934
>>2382740it is insane to me that trannies can't even be like "ok, maybe if a tranny is a rapist/pedo, we don't accept them and its fine not to respect their preferred pronouns"
What the fuck is the explanation behind that shit?
No. 2382955
>>2382058It probably depends on where you are but yeah, in my very liberal region of a very liberal Western European country, the husband argument would get a doctor in serious trouble and isn’t used anymore. I know many women who wanted hysterectomies as birth control and to rid themselves of periods who were told it was a medically irresponsible thing to do to healthy women and were offered hormonal bc and/or sterilisation instead. Weirdly enough a lot of them didn’t go in for sterilisation. It was a hysterectomy or nothing, apparently.
>>2382116Well, shit. Groomed by a director, too. I wonder how she feels about the fact that her character Casey in Atypical rejects the pronoun bullshit at her new fancy private school’s GSA. IIRC she even calls it stupid (though this may be me projecting). Is the actress going to pull a barve for playing a terfy character in the past?
>>2382934Tbf if trans were a real thing this would make sense. You don’t get your immutable characteristics stripped away because you’ve done something horrible. Female or gay or black pedos don’t stop being female or gay or black because they’re pedos. The reason many people feel inclined to stop respecting the pronouns of trans offenders is because we all know that treating trans-identified people as the opposite sex is a polite fiction, and why be polite to a monster? TIP are always enraged when they find out people are only playing along to be polite, and this is no different. Also
>>2382938. If we stripped away pronoun privileges from every TIM who’s a sexually predatory scumbag we’d have no adult TIMs left. And where do you draw the line? What if someone accuses a TIM of sexual misconduct and only half of their friend group believes her? Are half of those people going to go back to calling he/him John while the other half still calls she/her Lilith? Troons need everyone to be on the same page and play along because otherwise the whole fantasy falls apart.
No. 2383298
>>2383235Well. I don't want to make light of homeless people and the awful situations they find themselves in, but KEK. All he has to do is stop demanding to be seen as a woman by potential employers and he could find work, maybe even find somewhere to live.
How did you find out about his homelessness btw?
No. 2383299
>>2382680I was the biggest handmaiden when I was in high school, genuinely brainwashed. What peaked me was seeing the clear autogynephilia of troons and how disgusting and fetishy they are. So did seeing how people treated JKR and other terfs (even though I was convinced they were the most evil hitlerettes ever!!)
My full breaking point was when I was studying Cartesian dualism and we started to learn about Mary Astell, she pointed out how inherently sexist it is to imply there are gendered minds/ souls connected to the body and I realised how sexist the notion of trooning out is. Idk how it took me so long, but I love my 17-18th century
TERF queen ♥︎
>>2381040I think this is it unless there are multiple. She genuinely cannot think of things she dislikes when dating women because she doesn't date them kekk she was too quick with the car answer.
No. 2383305
>>2383298We live in the same city and of course I'm not gonna move for him, I saw him in some social media advertisment for a new, "scandalous" bar that's just a cartoon porn/fetish themed bar and he was tagged in the pics, he was barely covered and with tacky maekup and of course, shiny, botoxed lips. No a female in sight, of course, women don't go there and that's the blurred line that makes prostitution legal in my country: you cannot have brothels, just bars where you hire borderline nude people that you can pay with a tip and they will do some offservice "services" to you behind private rooms. I might be a
terf scum, in his word, but at least I don't risk all of my holes being infested with stds every night.
No. 2383401
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>>2382404That youtuber is Negative Legend?
No. 2383819
>>2382680Yeah but I wasn't really a
major libfem, it was just the mainstream thing and I didn't really care so I just agreed with libfem shit. I discovered radical feminism because i went on crystal.cafe and read the
terf threads, saw the nasty shit troons would say about lesbians (like me) and was pissed off. I never cared about troons but now I hate them because they're homophobic as fuck.
>>2383299She's such a fucking fakebian ugh, so she's asked what she doesn't like in dating, brings up something scrotes do, then goes "WELL TEEHEE I LIKE WHEN WOMEN DO IT!!". So why even mention it if you don't like scrotes??? Bring up something you don't like that women do hello????
No. 2383875
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Nonnas please go and read chapter three of this comic kek. Read the comments of bitthurt TRAs too kekk.
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>>2383900I knew picrel reminded me something. Life imitates art.
No. 2383942
>>2382680Getting raped by a tim and the aftermath of that
I don’t know if I could ever go back to being “supportive”. It’s been years and all I see is it keeps happening.
No. 2383963
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>https://apnews.com/article/georgia-transgender-adults-ab6975eea219cbe74524b642456d0b6cI was reading an article about troonery being defunded now including adults and this one quote from an mtf pissed me the fuck off. What the fuck do you mean not getting elective hrt is going to make you have menopause? I feel sick at the fact that anybody would let such a statement slide, it sounds like he is mocking actual women who suffer due to menopause which is very poorly researched since moids did a hostile takeover of the field of gynocology. I hate mtfs so fucking much and i want democrats to wake up and see these narcs for the monsters they are!
No. 2384078
>>2383920YES. THIS. It's easier to dismiss TiM's because they are deviants, but it's tough when you have a female friend and watch her absolutely fuck her shit up. It's not like other forms of self harm where its not only socially acceptable but encouraged to try to coax your loved ones away from the destructive behavior. They have fully convinced themselves that their self harm is actually a form of healing, but anyone on the outside looking in just seems someone they care about going broke and ruining their health with unnecessary surgeries and hormones that they can cucked themselves into believing is 'life saving' due to how bad their internalized misogyny is.
Trannism is like fat acceptance on steroids.
Literally on fucking steroids. The culture needs to change. Too bad retarded conservatives only know how to shame and hate (which makes things worse) and think somehow we can legally fix this retardation when the issue is cultural.
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>>2383875Right in the "I knew I was a boy/girl since childhood", specially because the tif posting against Rusty says it's uncomfortable that a nine year old girl has a "lesbian crush"? But if same girl says she's a boy, then that's ok?
No. 2384296
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This trash showed up on my youtube homepage, I'm so sick of this retarded and misogynistic lie being pushed everywhere and preached by reddit midwits as gospel. No, women are not just penisless people.
No. 2384357
>>2373618I'm also in the medical field, so I feel your pain nona.
What I find especially difficult about remaining crypto is having to lie about the science. Anyone who is actually capable of reading and understanding a research paper should quickly realize that this trans nonsense is the most unscientific thing to hit journals since the whole "vaccines cause autism" bullshit, but no.
I tried bringing up the fact that most of Europe has banned youth treatments to a friend of mine (also in medicine) and all she could say was "its because of twansphobia." At least older docs are usually skeptical, if not outright critical of this bullshit. They're just being silenced by their institutional policies.
No. 2384365
>>2384296I don't think they're pushing it to lie about how sex development works, it's simply their only viable rebuttal to and distraction from the EO. This semantic nitpicking just goes to show how impeccably written it was otherwise - if they found some sort of legit mistake or loophole or fallacy, they would've run with that rather than OMG THEY ACCIDENTALLY IMPLIED EVERYONE IS FEMALE! GOTTEM LOL!!
It's highly likely that was never the intended wording and it was shoehorned in there to maintain consistency with pro-life bs.
No. 2384367
>>2384296It's a biology joke
nonnie, in nature female is the default so all embryos develop in a female pattern until the six week mark at which point the SRY gene is activated. It's the whole reason that men have nipples lol this isn't like, woke…
No. 2384402
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>Oh fuck that. People have been trans all over the world since before the US was invented.
It was plain homophobia, anon. Now is more common for porn addiction and no one wanting to mention it.
>US invented.
Of course it is. No one used the x or @ in Latinos until USian trannies claimed it wasn't inclusive enough.
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lol, lmao. and yes, it’s a troon, of course.
No. 2384449
>>2384444>what about androgynous women?Still women.
>what about women with deep voices?Still women.
>what about me?Kek, not a woman.
No. 2384479
>>2382680Had already been reading radfem blogs out of curiosity for a while. What truly peaked me was an incident on tumblr ages ago, a russian lesbian made some
terf witch drawings boiling trans people and got doxxed to her irls for it, putting her life in danger. Being east euro myself that hit super close to home and i had realized just how truly hateful and unreasonable they were. As for agps i always got the ick from them but tried to ignore it kek
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>>2384367The embryo develops in an undifferentiated manner, not a female manner. If the SRY gene or androgens don't kick in after a few weeks, THEN the fetus develops female-typical manner. "All fetuses start out female" was either a Jurassic Park line or just plain miscommunication, or both.
No. 2384540
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Kekking my ass off at this. I'm not a burgerlander but I might start following what Nancy Mace does because she's funny as hell.
No. 2384584
>>2384540Kekkk what is America right now. I’m glad she can speak out at least, I’m just scared that this will discredit her and put her in dander.
Didn’t a tranny shove her some time ago?
No. 2384614
>>2384540The fact that she's being attacked by her own camp for "invading" male spaces made me like her more. Being crucified by moids who supposedly share your views is the core feminist experience
>>2383854KEK you explained it perfectly
>>2382922Some troon Wiki editor changed the grooming gangs page to add "moral panic" and frame it as this non-existent thing, they're always at the forefront of woman hating.
No. 2384701
>>2384694We could have been strong if we firmly stood for ourselves, us as in women.
It should have been “women’s rights” and women’s rights only, no trans bullshit, no inclusive bullshit. Instead we are way too busy shouting “pro sex work! Pro males! Trans rights are women’s rights” while the left and the right is busy eroding whatever little we have!
No. 2384738
>>2384582>>2384686If Europe is anything to go by, female leaders are more likely to come from conservative parties than progressive ones. IIRC California has never had a female governor. I think women in progressive parties are more likely to be people pleasers who get caught up in purity spirals whereas women in conservative parties are more likely to be very assertive and not give a fuck.
I’m not American but I’d like to see someone like Nancy Mace run for president and unite everyone who isn’t a raging misogynist. I doubt she’d be elected, but people need to see that it’s a possibility. The US desperately needs a third option between death-penalty-for-abortion republicans and suck-the-girldick-you-bigot democrats. The left in my country is very captured as well, but at least we have some more moderate pro-abortion conservatives and a (admittedly pretty small) socialist party who are opposed to trans nonsense.
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>>2384738>>2384582>>2384738nancy mace is just a representative, tulsi gabbard probably has the best chance to become the first female president, her current position as director of national intelligence gives her enormous credentials
No. 2384798
>>2384701Trannies took over intersectional feminism. That pisses me the fuck off so bad. It kills me when trannies try to compare their "oppression" to shit like how systematic racism affects women of color and impoverished women.
Men always come in trying to psyop women getting rights.
Having said that I do think the first female president will likely be conservative. I would rather have an independent radfem swerf
terf female supremacist than a democrat or a republican, but I would also like a pet xenomorph queen who I would feed a steady diet of rapist pedo austistic moids.
No. 2384801
>>2384798And the funniest thing is exactly that! These retards aren’t even inclusive because they never talk about the oppression of women of color. They just use black women as a token when it’s time to say “but black women!!! They are affected by transmisogyny”.
They are racist MRAs.
No. 2384808
>>2384784she's a veteran and also the youngest state legislator in hawaii, she was actually considered a potential vice candidate pick and if there's any political figure who has the chance to become the first female president in the us, it's her.
she used to be a member of the democrats until she switched to the republicans due to political differences and now she's going to become the director of national intelligence
No. 2384809
>>2384806It’s when they get to know trannies more that they fully peak.
In order to be a handmaiden you need to have a specific type of mindset, the “activist who sits on the sofa” one kek.
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>>2379795Late but it's a They TIF
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>>2379795>we shout that this is actually not some sacrosanct hall but a Panera BreadWhich is exactly why you need to fuck off and leave the employees getting paid $10/hr alone. I absolutely can't stand these psycho autists that spend a decade hiding in universities and getting their genitals lopped off under their parents insurance that act like they're holier than thou to everyone else trying to scrape by.
No. 2384900
>>2382680In college I made friends with 2 people who eventually became a TIM and a TIF (both nonbinary). The TIM set up a student club for trannies, and I joined it to support my friends because I was a good progressive ally. At the club they’d discuss stuff like “Is it transphobic not to sleep with a trans person?” and I was like “Hmm, shouldn’t just respecting people’s basic humanity be enough? Why do you also need to sleep with them to be a good person?” Also, they hosted a Transgender Day of Remembrance event, and this gross AGP man got up on the podium to talk about how he shouldn’t have to pass, or be expected to pass, but also he gets raped and sexually harassed wherever he goes. In hindsight I realize this was a crazy pervert man who was probably delighted to have a platform to share his sexual fantasies with an audience of 18-22 year olds. My TIF friend was very mentally ill, she struggled with self harm whenever she got out of (apparently traumatic) lesbian relationships. Also, a friend of mine had a male friend who I found creepy, and he attempted to harass me online. He got arrested for selling drugs and came out of jail as a TIM. He apologized, saying that he’d been mean to me due to struggling with his gender at the time. A few weeks later he died from taking estrogen without a prescription.
I guess the thing that peaked me was having a lot of exposure to troons. I realized the people who are drawn to transitioning are people who are deeply mentally ill or otherwise suffering. Trooning out is basically painting a big sign on your forehead that says “I AM A CRAZY PERSON.”
No. 2384971
>>2382680>Earliest hint of peak, late 2000sI had an upperclassman acquaintance in high school whose boyfriend trooned out. I never met him but I knew he was much older than her, and my upperclassmen friends hated him because of how controlling he was. The thing was our friends were gay guys and pretty inclusive, so for them to hate him it must have been really bad. Troons were rare at this time so he just sounded weird and insufferable. She eventually broke up with him because of his pressuring for her to identify as a lesbian.
>Mid timeline peak, late 2010sOne of my childhood friends married a guy that trooned out and since then her life has been a spiral. I follow her online because we live in different states and she went from having a feminist slant and active sex life to claiming she's asexual (100% from her husband killing his own sex drive), agender/nonbinary, she's heavily medicated for depression and just constantly complains. She also has health problems stemming from gaining a ton of weight so trans rights, ableism and fatphobia are like the only things she even talks about anymore.
>Current 2020s peakWent back to college and there are so, so many troons. Ugly moids dressing up in leggings and school girl outfits, and student government is completely overrun by the campus LGBTQ organization. I took a woman-focused art class and 1/3 of it was about transgender movement. The professor started identifying as nonbinary and did academic writing about transgender movement in the last year, so it was sad but not surprising.
No. 2385306
>>2377709this is why I can't recognize a TIM as a woman no matter his sexuality or appearance or how "estrogenized" his brain was as a fetus or whatever else. I don't care about anything like that. A TIM could be capable of giving birth and he'd still be male. If he grows up male and is socialized as male, he can't ever be anything else. Everything about his personality, interests and way of thinking will ultimately be based in being a man. It permeates everything about him.
i am not the best at clocking TIMs, they fool me pretty often, but when I learn their real gender it's the same feeling as when I learn artwork was made by AI. It completely recontextualizes what they actually are. Fake. I am beginning to think the emergence of TIMs and AI is linked to the same fundamental issue, all the information overload of the modern world has made it so that people can't process complexity anymore. We're becoming a society that only cares about things on the surface and present level, rather than the stories and essence and depth of what things actually are
No. 2385348
>>2385265Trans widows are in a uniquely awful position. I know one whose ex chose her because she was a lonely immigrant with extremely basic English at the time, baby trapped her, and eventually trooned out when their daughter was in preschool.
She dropped his ass immediately and the daughter still calls him dad. Neither of them refer to him as anything but a man, and the daughter refuses to spend time with him if he's wearing his creepy TIM clothes. They're still friendly with each other but IMO it's at least partly because neither of them put up with his shit and he has to choose between trans tantrums or seeing his only child. He also had the chop a few years back, probably in a desperate attempt to make them see him as a fellow vulva owner, but the only thing that happened was his ex taking their daughter along to spend the holidays with her family for the second year in a row since he would be incapable of caring for her while he was recovering.
I wish more trans widows and trans orphans were like that. My friend knows quite a few, and most of them are/were vulnerable and needed the stability that a relationship provided. Some of them are disabled, some of them are immigrants like my friend, a few came from unstable homes and married way too young just to have a roof over their heads, and some are normies who had never heard of trans shit and tried to come to terms with it before giving up. My heart breaks for them, but leaving really is the best thing they can do.
TIFs who ruin relationships might be annoying but at least they don't murder women who refuse to sleep with them. Although I imagine many of them fantasize about killing and torturing women, since they're all self hating pick mes who hate all women who aren't doormats.
>>2385270>>2385308Nobody wants them as long term romantic partners. Nobody. Men will pump and dump TIFs who don't have a lot of testosterone effects, gay men will pump and dump TIMs, and sometimes they go prison gay for each other out of desperation. If there are enough of them and they're equally desperate, they form polycules. Then they catch on that nobody sees them as the gender they want to be, have a narc rage meltdown, and become single again.
No. 2385783
>>2385459If a TIF troon lied to me to trick me into a relationship, I would probably kill it too.
Not that it would happen, as their flesh sausages are dead giveaway.
No. 2386062
>>2382680I went from anti-sjw > libfem > radfem but I don't think I ever really bought into the libfem bs. I came out of my cringe anti-sjw phase as I entered my twenties and shed the pickme lining, and wanted to be included with the people around me as I ran in very ~genderqueer~ circles. I had always speculated I was trans but never even so much as changed my pronouns which I imagine happened because I just wasn't retarded enough. I've always been a curvy woman and knowing I couldn't be the skinny femboy of my dreams just put me off it entirely.
It was only when I started dating TiMs that I began to peak. I'm bisexual so it didn't really bother me what was going on down there and I liked feminine men. But they were all just so….. weird. When I dated a guy who was planning to troon out I really saw how he viewed womanhood and it left a bad taste in my mouth. He wasn't fetishy about it, even, just one dimensional. He had this solitary understanding of what a woman was and didn't seem to look outside of that. I remember discussions where I'd have to keep saying "socialised as a man" to skirt his feelings. Around this time I started browsing LC and even though I avoided the MTF and FTM threads I saw that my experience wasn't isolated, and that other women had experienced the same thing. It was from there I began to deconstruct the whole thing, and now here I am. I wouldn't say LC necessarily peaked me, but learning about radical feminism and actually reading radfem literature did.
No. 2386095
>>2386056I was on 4chan in the early 2010s and read kf occasionally when really fun drama popped up, like the my immortal author thread, so I was already familiar with imageboards. A friend sent me a LC thread in 2020 or something because I enjoy petty gossip kek and I ended up just lurking around the site for a couple years. I was on /snow/ and /w/ a lot and just had a morbid curiosity about the mtf thread the closer I got to moving in with the TIM. I think there were things he said that raised alarm bells in my head but I was so deeply indoctrinated I felt guilty and cruel for even feeling slightly weirded out. He talked about missing work for his “period” and retarded shit like that, and since I had already read all the interesting threads and had these weird feelings, I just ended up in the mtf thread kek.
Funnily enough, all my friends who I found out use this site are some kind of trans identifying or queer female. I think a lot of people enjoy gossip and are willing to ignore things they disagree with like slurs or trans hate to get that dopamine hit. It’s pretty easy to ignore the mtf and ftm threads and tell yourself that you’re just here for the gossip and being here doesn’t mean you agree with “transphobia”. Thank you for your concern
nonny, I never did anything medical and feel very grateful to have escaped without it. However, I do feel that spending so much time identifying as trans mentally and socially stunted me lol.
No. 2386101
>>2382680Was a hardcore libfem, then my gf starting identifying as a themby in the early 2010s when we were in middle school right as the idea was gaining momentum on Tumblr. I was supportive while it was niche and she quickly convinced me I was a themby too which kickstarted years of truly shocking brainwashing in retrospect. I had several mini-peaks and moments of cognitive dissonance, but since I was surrounded by TIFs, all resistance and questioning was quickly silenced with uncomfortable squirming or outright hostility. I think I finally started peaking for real after finding the MTF threads here, a population I'd never crossed paths with despite so much of the movement abstractly worshipping them. Still, I rationalized it as being "just a few bad apples." Finding the FTM threads were what really sealed the deal because they were so much like my friends and ex girlfriends, so much like me. It felt like everything just started clicking. All the things I thought but trained myself to stop thinking, all the tropes I'd noticed but pretended not to, all the reservations I'd had that were dismissed. It all just came together and even though I actually did want to "go back" because I wasn't ready to lose all my friends, I just couldn't unring that ball. But coming to terms with it all having been nonsense took me over a year of obsessive lurking. I really felt like I was losing a religion or something. Even now, years later, I struggle to accept that I fell for it.
No. 2386132
>>2382680I was always skeptical of libfem views of stuff like sex work, plastic surgery etc. but I run in libfem circles so I went along with it. Growing up I was led to believe liberal feminism was the only real feminism, and if I cared about women and wasn't a close minded sex negative boomer I had to align with it. I also didn't have much exposure to trans people irl. The few I had met were turbo autists before and after trooning, so I put all their weird behaviours down to autism. I had skeptical moments but talked myself out of it because everywhere I go I would hear their same catchphrases. Trans women are women, trans rights are human rights etc. Basically don't question it. I distinctly remember when Bruce Jenner literally killed someone and then everyone forgave and forgot because he trooned out and started saying things like "The hardest part of being a woman is deciding what to wear", which I found disgusting and reductive. So clearly male. I also grew up in the era where everyone rejected labels or unnecessarily gendering things like clothes and kids toys, so when I started seeing women be told that they needed to start taking hormones because they preferred pants to skirts, I questioned that too. But I pushed it down and kept it to myself.
In the last year or so I've noticed more and more how they've managed to co-opt every form of feminism and activism and make it about themselves and had finally had enough. It was never lost on me that tims were socialised as men and tifs as women and this was reflected in every interaction I've had with them. I stopped being able to ignore it. I started to venture out from my regular cow threads to the feminist threads on here and realised radfems really are the only ones who still care about women, and the only ones who make any kind of sense.
Last year when Gaiman got outed as a rapist and all his fans started trying to shrug it off as a
TERF conspiracy in order to defend this rich old white man, I realised other so called feminists don't care about or believe women at all anymore. They immediately jumped to defend him and call these women liars because "we can't lose such a good trans ally". Then Trump won and everyone started sperging about trans genocide more than I've ever seen them talk about any real genocide in history. They don't give a fuck about all the real women giving themselves coat hanger abortions, it's all about trans this and trans that. It made me realise that trans is just a buzzword used by both sides of the political spectrum to deflect from actual issues. It keeps the same rich, powerful men on a pedestal so they can get away with anything and halt any real progress. I used to think it was harmless, but they're actively undoing everything real feminists and activists have worked decades for and I'm sick of it. Thank you nonas for helping me see sense.
No. 2386142
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"Let us to ruin our children's life alone"
No. 2386309
>>2385348Things are especially shitty for trans widows with ‘accepting’ social circles who will rally around the TIM and vilify the woman for being anything but elated at the news. I know a woman who unknowingly married a gay man and the dynamic when he ‘came out’ (was discovered to have been cheating on her with men) was similar. He’s the one who proposed to her, moved into her house, benefited from her doing 100% of all domestic labour, lived off her salary while she put him through college, and was in the process of trying to talk her into having a baby when he was found to be cheating. Their entire friend group was falling over themselves to celebrate him for being brave enough to be his authentic self etc. Zero consideration for her feelings, and any sense of betrayal she might have felt would have been deemed hateful and -phobic. She was expected to remain on friendly terms with him for years afterwards. But at least she was allowed to divorce him and move on with her life.
Now imagine this scenario with a man who’s still sexually attracted to his wife and wants to keep her around, who might be planning to have expensive surgeries for which he expects to be able to use her insurance and for her to act as his nursemaid while he recovers. Women who try to leave their TIM husbands are often painted as heartless monsters, because how could you leave the love of your life when they’re going through such a turbulent time? The only socially acceptable reason to want to leave a man like this is to claim you’re not same-sex attracted, but that involves validating his new identity and pretending that him wearing your underwear means he’s really a woman now. And if you’re already out as bisexual, tough luck. It’s eerily common for women in this position who can’t or won’t divorce their TIM spouse to start identifying as trans themselves, which imo is a form of socially acceptable self harm caused by them being forced to repress and internalise any and all negative feelings related to their husbands’ trooning.
I can’t wait for it to become common knowledge,
again (because this
used to be common knowledge) that transvestism is a sexual fetish and a massive red flag for misogyny and sexual abuse. It used to be automatic grounds for divorce and should be again.
No. 2386366
>>2386356Don't reply to the troon, he's equating transvestic fetishism and women in masculine clothing kekk this is not someone worth talking to
>>2386309>It’s eerily common for women in this position who can’t or won’t divorce their TIM spouse to start identifying as trans themselvesMy understanding is these women are so classically feminine they reflect back whatever their bf/husband is, they have been fully captured by female socialization and so they act as empty vessels for the personality of their partner. Trooning out is a way to do that, but it must also be a way to alienate themselves further from their own pain like you pointed out.
>I can’t wait for it to become common knowledge, again (because this used to be common knowledge) that transvestism is a sexual fetish and a massive red flag for misogyny and sexual abuse.Yup. I've seen tiktoks of normie women joking about dumping their panty-wearing bfs so i think this knowledge is still present, it's just met with resistance from handmaidens and "be kind" types. Nature is healing
No. 2386614
>>2386273It sounds like she will peak. She cares enough about her fellow lesbians to be disgusted by rapehons forcing their way into lesbian spaces, which is more than a lot of TRA lesbians I know. The more she's exposed to TIFs the more she'll question why a butch lesbian would need to get hair transplants for her beard and attach a frankendick in order to truly delude herself into thinking she's male. It's one thing for an obviously lesbian couple to call themselves he and microdose T to get that smexy receding hairline, it's another thing entirely when they get SRS because of how much they hate themselves.
She'll peak, but it'll take a while.
>>2386527Kek good for her.
No. 2386684
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It's funny how TIMs try to be quirky but come across as gross sexual degenerates everyone is scared / disgusted by while TIFs aren't threatening at all
No. 2386691
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So a federal judge in DC just granted an order blocking the Bureau of Prisons from moving TIMs out of women's prisons. I read the order the judge wrote and I seriously want to die reading this. The tranny prisoners unironically claim that not being allowed to be around women is a violation of the Eighth Amendment right against "cruel and unusual punishment" AND THE JUDGE BOUGHT IT.
No. 2386706
>>2386696Seriously, it's such an obviously misogynistic argument. The logic of this order is seriously
>These trannies need to be protected from hypothetical male violence in men's prisons!! Look at these statistics showing male-on-tranny violence in men's prisons!While at the same time saying
>The female prisoners who want the trannies out don't have a case, because these particular trannies haven't raped them yet so the harm is purely hypothetical and not real!!! No. 2386975
>>2386638Hate trannies, also hate the comments on this vid dicksucking trump and elon. Hate these faggots glazing moids when it's a woman calling attention to this.
We need a third party. Republicans and democrats are both shit.
No. 2387251
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>1. States Parties undertake to respect the right of the child to preserve his or her identity, including nationality, name and family relations as recognized by law without unlawful interference.
>2. Where a child is illegally deprived of some or all of the elements of his or her identity, States Parties shall provide appropriate assistance and protection, with a view to re-establishing speedily his or her identity.
Where is the "where the kid have to be under hormones because their parents are homophobic"?
No. 2387327
>>2382680when i was in high school i was very much a libfem in a red/conservative area and i remember when one of my best male friends started to experiment with wearing skirts and calling himself by a different name, I wanted to be as supportive as possible. He got full soda cans chucked at him out of the windows of passing cars for walking around certain areas of town wearing a skirt (not even one of the fetish-y spinny ones but like just a long peasant skirt). i found out later that one of the reasons he trooned out was a) being sexually abused by older men as a child and b) being
told by his court-appointed therapist that they thought he was trans and it would solve all his problems if he just became a woman. and he WASN'T but he got on hormone therapy anyways (i have no idea how he afforded this, either, so it was either bathroom estrogen or some kind of government-sponsored medication program). he went on to be horrifically abused by a poly t4t furry group in iirc Seattle, who deprived him of housing as soon as he said 'hey i think maybe i want to detransition' because they were essentially only using him as a sex pet. he's still living with the hormonal effects but has gone back to identifying as male since.
So that was the first instance of a weird/negative experience with trans ideology and starting to question if people really felt like they were the opposite sex or if they were just being socially pressured into it because they didn't fit the exact mold of masculine behavior.
It went on to multiple instances of encountering 'one of the good ones' in libfem/leftist spaces only to realize they were 'one of the bad ones' when they started pestering me for constant attention, sexual flattery, or a relationship. One of them went as far as to run a whole smear campaign against me when I blocked them - they went through months of text messages to take the most 'sexual' ones out of context, then compiled and presented them to all our mutual friends and told them I was a groomer. when this all came out people were horrified first because they were willing to believe the transgirl unquestioningly, then because it took me spilling our entire unredacted chat logs for people to realize they'd been lied to. this was after the mtf had been seeding the accusations to my friends through DMs for weeks and i'd been slowly wondering why they were all starting to treat me like rancid garbage. even after the truth was out, the atmosphere was never the same after that. i was so troubled by the idea that people that i thought were my friends would believe that story without so much as DMing me to ask for my side of things. I've still got trust issues over it.
and then there was the boyfriend who just wanted to constantly sniff and/or wear my panties who now lives in full trans/nonbinary/genderqueer mode in CA as a part-time barista and OF model so yeah I think I have also seen the AGP side of it, too.
there are more examples i can cite (one mtf i dated prior to them trooning out died of a heroin overdose and it was so fucking painful watching people fawn over his obituary like 'omg she was such a queen' while knowing how
abusive and gaslight-y he was) but overall while i find tifs annoying in a holier-than-thou way, the tims are the ones that seem to have the worst mental illness and/or most predatory patterns of behavior. eventually i just had to face that even if there are 'true transwomen' out there, they're vastly outnumbered by the people whose mental illness/trauma is being mis- or self-diagnosed as 'gender dysphoria', and their conditions are either going untreated or being frankly exacerbated by hormone therapy.
TERF serial killers don't exist, the excessive hyperbole of 'trans genocide' is such fucking stale dialogue at this point, but the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing predators that are dismissed as '
TERF talking points' have been ever-present in libfem spaces as long as I have.
No. 2387333
>>2382680I don't know if I was ever fully lib fem, but a buddy of mine (gay dude) stated trooning when I was living with him, and I was still dumb back then. I can remember telling an online friend about it, and he asked, I think out if genuine curiosity, how one "knows" or "feels" like the opposite sex. I remember not having much of an answer. A few years later, you had the North Carolina bathroom bill, where a bunch of rich celebrities and corporations screeched and protested doing business in my state (but ignored the aspects of the bill that fucked over workers) and any time powerful people start acting like that, I get suspicious. then you had Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie being attacked for saying trannies are raised male and therefore receive male socialization and privilege, trannies and nonbinaries taking over fandoms I liked and inserting annoying headcanons, the hypocrisy and outrage over Rachel Dolezal claiming to black while men claiming to be women was allowed, the open misogyny of homos on RuPauls Drag Race. Reading that Inauthentic Selves article on Substack (Medium at the time) that broke down how fake all this shit was. Coming here or crypto-TERFing on pre-autistic manchild Elon Twitter helped keep me sane. A peaking isn't at once, at least it wasn't for me. I feel dumb for ever falling for it, and over the years, the stories about troons have only gotten so much worse.
No. 2387363
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'Children exercising bodily autonomy'
No. 2387366
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crossposting from mundane shit, i just got into my cities cbd and there is a MASSIVE fucking tranny protest about the trans genocide, like 500 people, and there are MTFs EVERYWHERE and I’M SO SCARED and so many horrortifs with fucked pube facial hair please help me
No. 2387388
>>2387363I’m so tired of grown adults thinking that it’s absolutely okay for children with underdeveloped brains to be allowed go with procedures they don’t know the implications to and equating that to autonomy
>>2387366 Kek what is that costume with the pride flag as a cape
No. 2387837
>>2386938It’s like these people think The Island of Dr. Moreau was an instruction manual. How fucked up in the head do you have to be to do this? I could barely stand to work in a lab where mice were used for cancer research and 1) I never saw the animals myself and 2) that was for breast cancer, which actually kills people. Nobody has ever genuinely suffered from not having a rolled up piece of meat grafted to their crotch.
>>2386972My lolita comm helped to peak me, too, because it was the first time I encountered this bullshit in real life and personally witnessed the creepy cognitive dissonance handmaidens exhibit around AGPs. We used to ban sissies on sight but once trans activism became a thing we were suddenly expected to give obvious fetishists the benefit of the doubt and give them chance after chance to sexually harass girls. The way these self-identified feminists would talk about distrusting men and female solidarity, but then instantly switched to fawning-over-the-male-while-vilifying-the-woman mode as soon as the creepy sex pest in question cried “trans!” was a real wake-up call. I don’t understand how anyone can spend any significant time in a lolita comm full of gendies without peaking.
>>2387338My comm also had a really obnoxious brolita who made insulting and misogynistic comments nonstop, but he’s always gotten a pass because he’s gay, Asian and wears brand. He’s made jokes about sucking dick for brand and that girls who can’t afford brand should get better at sucking dick. He also liked calling girls (including his closest friends in the comm) fat and ugly behind their backs and this was excused because “that’s just how he is”. A woman would never get away with this sort of behaviour, but I think the comm likes to keep him around as an example of an “amab” who wears lolita well and isn’t obviously AGP. Plus many of them love Drag Race (except the ones who think it’s transphobic kek) and I think they like the idea of having a sassy, unapologetically catty gay friend. They probably don’t realise he talks shit about them too as soon as they’re out of earshot.
No. 2387952
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I can't take this nonas I'm so fucking sick of TIMs all they do is post rapey porny shit. This stuff is all over twitter and has 10s of thousands of likes from troons because they genuinely just get sexually aroused by being a hecking valid girl and being "raped" because thats what they think of women.
It's a fucking joke to them and they can't see how fucking disgusting they are because they're in circles that are just handmaidens and trannies talking about how fetishes are empowering, and actually pro-woman and totally valid. I don't know how the world is fine with shit like this genuinely. They're so fucking proud and open about it.
No. 2388078
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stop replying
No. 2388080
>>2388078The only thing coming out of Trump’s mandate kek. It’s like having ice cream after eating rotten milk and cereal.
I’ll always miss my Kamalita though.
No. 2388081
>>2388079> you’re claiming all the feminists are racist and your response to a woman saying she isn’t white is to say she deserves to be bombed and have her throat slitKek I didn’t miss this either nonna. Rules for thee but not for me in this group.
It’s just the same with dating. They can demand and demand, but you have to unlearn your preferences and biases.
No. 2388087
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>This is very, very similar to the buildip that happened before the holocaust
No. 2388117
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>>2388113Just imagine the seethe from all scrotes if there's a president who wants women to have reproductive rights but also wants moids to stay out of womens spaces. This includes mentally ill delusional moids.
No. 2388121
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>>2386265this is as likely as a vegan speaking
No. 2388136
>>2388093They’re doubling down hard because of Trump’s EOs would be my guess. Even if they were more moderate on trans stuff or even gc they don’t want to be seen agreeing with something Trump is doing. I’m not even in the US and everyone I know who is even remotely lefty and political on social media is yelling online about a trans genocide.
Meanwhile a lot of normies I know are going “wait, they were doing WHAT?” regarding both the EOs and the resultant public outcry. They still thought nobody was transitioning minors, putting intact rapists in women’s prisons etc. so seeing people scream about those things being restricted is opening their eyes to how messed up things had become when they weren’t paying attention. Ngl it’s been very satisfying that people who used to roll their eyes at me and insist that “nobody is doing those things, nobody even wants those things” now have to admit I was right all along. Hopefully this will be a turning point, but I worry that people who previously believed child transition was unthinkable will now be memed into thinking it’s a good thing just because Trump is against it.
>>2388113I really, really hope so.
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No. 2388270
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Saging because this has been posted in bad comics thread already.
No. 2388311
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>>2388270i've said it to the isekai coomers and i'll say it to mtfs, selling someone a fantasy where you have to literally die in order to fulfill your dreams is the equivalent of telling them to just kys now. i see no difference between this comic and picrel.
No. 2388378
>>2388078Dunking on trannies is one of the only good things to come out of this administration.
>>2388087>making being trans akin to being a sex pestTrans is a fetish, that you play out in public and force top-down through billionaires onto the rest of us. You are sex pests. And sex pests and felons get CDLs and drive trucks all the time. Other truck drivers will straight up tell you that shit.
No one is stopping these freaks from owning land. And if they don't want them in jobs, it's because trannies are entitled freaks who take over everything and force people to comply with their delusion and are nightmares to the other workers. They don't want these freaks in womens spaces, or patting down women, because they are pornsick gooners. Only women should pat down other women, and I think it needs to go further with not only getting troons out of womens prisons, but getting male guards and staff and wardens out too. Prisons need to be completely sex segregated.
No. 2388526
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“Would you rather chop your left hand off or your right hand?” Kind of question
No. 2388546
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>>2388368Because it is. Anything made by a TIM has a fetish or two, no matter how "wholesome" it is.
>>2388526Cis man. At least the moid can think rationally and seek for the kid's parents. The TIM would take her because she's an egg and needs help to escape from her "
abusive parents".
No. 2388570
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This fanfiction is making rounds on my twt (I'm muting/blocking anyone sharing it ofc) and god pickmes are so clueless that there is literally no difference between the creeps she's licking the feet of and the "cis men predators", they are one and the same.
No. 2388590
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I hate how TRAs act stupid on purpose. You know damn well that a damn male is stronger than a female.
No. 2388606
>>2388590Women should be competing with other women because it will make them stronger over time. Women weren't even allowed to compete in most sports for generations. You don't need some shithead moid in the sport fucking with their morale.
Also I don't fail to see the irony in these nonces using loli anime
No. 2388614
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>>2388590Wdym males and females have biological differences that synthetic hormones can't change? That is pseudo science unlike my woman soul and brain
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>>2388606>Also I don't fail to see the irony in these nonces using loli animeA lot of those troons praise onimai and think that it's deeper than just generic lolishit, they are not beating the allegations
No. 2388634
>>2388630sorry I am only half literate
based girls staying together in solidarity
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No. 2388642
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>>2388590People will really hear "men and women have physical, biological differences" and then mistranslate that as "women are small little babies who can't do anything!" and then call you sexist.
I want to show them this picture and make them spot the TiM, and then ask how/why they think he's not female.
No. 2388648
>>2388642why is he dressed like that?
These poor girls. Haven't they been through enough? Like you know this creep probably has an amputee fetish
No. 2388665
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The irony of this tranny using a soyjak when majority of soyjaks depict them being ugly as fuck and killing themselves. "ATLEAST IM FUCKABLE!!!" troon cope
No. 2388672
>>2388658As someone who was a miles/phoenix fujo… this doesn't surprise me.
Im sure theres an aiden named Sasuke out there…..
No. 2388674
>>2388672>wasWhat happened,
nonnie? Did the tifs chase you out?
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>>2388665I saw the same tranny post this one which might actually just be a troonjak with adult human female drawn over the shirt kek. There's a specific kind of """woman"" that tends to have a male skull, rotting teeth, a unibrow, hon bangs, facial hair and blood secreting from parts of their bodies that it shouldn't and its not terfs kek.
No. 2390060
>>2390046I mean they wanted the right to castrate the kids they groomed and to invade womens spaces.
I hate trannies. So god damn much. I hate them as much as I hate non tranny moids.
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>>2390137
that is bindi irwin(report and ignore)
No. 2390188
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why the fuck did my lesbian (?) twitter mutual who enthusiastically agreed with my GC rants a few weeks ago just post pictures of some lanky androgynous moids captioned "i just want to be a pretty boy but i have this stupid vagina.. wish i could steal their gender"????????????
you've got to be fucking kidding me man. i'm so tired
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This is more like a man yelling at a cloud, but I can't believe that even in a stupid game they have to use "people" than “women" for a article about periods.
No. 2390272
>>2390213It scares them because it puts their ideology into question, much like I imagine at some point you also scared the jehova’s witnesses with your questions.
Are you me? I wish I could meet the nonas from this thread irl kek, I never really feminized with time because a lot of it is sensory torture and that doesn’t help the uncanny valley impression it leaves in others but I relate to you a lot. I know female socialization is a thing and most every woman ends up displaying it in some form because it’s so pervasive, but seeing women be so spineless when I am not is one of the most frustrating parts about this whole thing. Men don’t let tifs trample all over them, I’m convinced through sheer strength in numbers male trannies would have never succeeded this much without preying on female empathy and the weird need women have for group cohesion, which is where being bullied as a girl by other girls because you’re gnc comes from, they also get scared by you not complying.
Idk if it will happen within my lifetime but I hope women collectively grow a spine someday.
No. 2390437
>>2390213Another nona who could've written this post word for word here, except for the stuff about christianity.
>It's just as well I was a tomboy in the 2000's and early 2010's because they would have tried to convince me to troon out. I'm extremely thankful for this too. I would've definitely trooned out had I been born even 5 years later than I was.
No. 2390725
>>2388154This shit is actually really sad. I don't want to blogpost but I have dealt just the same. Wasn't allowed to like or wear makeup, not allowed to shave etc but decided to go hyperfem instead of trans.
I personally believe every girl wants to be beautiful. This girl is headed straight to suicide the second her body is hairer than it was before and with ugly surgery scars. She will have nobody to blame but herself.
No. 2390787
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>Not to be extremely morbid>starts to victimize insteadThe one people who are the "next target" are women who are not handmaidens or are already fed up with all the shit we have to deal with trannies whining.
>>2390437I'm glad to live my tomboy childhood in the 90's, no stupid doctor or someone else to insist to my parents that maybe I'm an "egg" and should start on hormones to be an unhappy woman without breast.
No. 2390878
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best comic for hating on gender ideology
No. 2390890
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>>2388087When will troons understand THEY are the psyop, not a target of genocide? It's a natural pushback for the insane rise of their so called cause, aka a mass fetish, and the insane monetary support it gets. I fucking hate Trump too but looking at some of the USAID money spent I can't help but be flabbergasted. The TQ+ gets such astronomical funding it's absolutely insane, putting a stop to shit like this and not denying the material reality of human biological sex is not genocide. No one has ever said no to these men before, after the amounts of asspats they've been getting for the past few years they cannot cope. Fuck all of these shits for poisoning and fucking over they LGB in their quest for endless coom.
No. 2390958
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and this is why everyone hates the T
No. 2391002
>>2387952They are so disgusting. Men only think with their dick and use sex instead of their actual brain.
>>2388359NTA But i'll carry marker because this is tiring and exhausting
No. 2391095
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for the first time in a long time i went into an chain book store (indigo canada) and i was shocked at the books in the YA section. i feel like a boomer, but the number of trans books esp graphic novels was really insane, also all the heart stopper type gay romance books written by women. quite a few books with tit chop scars front page and cal arts style art with "unique queer characters". i dont advocate for banning books, but its incredibly sus to me that there are FEW books like this in adult sections (fiction and non fiction alike) but SO MANY in the youth section. they're all written by adults so why are they all targeting young readers??? I was reading ones cover (i forgot the name) i picked it up because i like YA and the art looked cool. it was about a kid who lived in settler america and came out as trans??? and was kicked out of the house to live amongst cryptids from what i could gather?? ofc tif author
No. 2391145
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>>2391095just googling trans YA makes me ill, first recommendation and its author. seems really healthy for kids to read.
https://www.instagram.com/magsvisaggs/scrolling down this dudes page is a trip, i can smell the mental illness.
No. 2391149
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>>2391135It's usually a good idea to at least read the abstract in full. Both the introduction and methods confirm the use of living subjects.
>However, a large number of patients will undergo revision surgery for various prosthesis-related complications.Implying the dogs will heal enough to undergo a secondary "revision" surgery
>10 fresh cadavers were dissected>11 mongrel female dogs were involved in the penile reconstruction surgery.Showing both cadavers and live dogs were used in the study, and
>The function and structure of the neo-phalli were assessed 7 months postoperatively.The dogs were kept alive for at least 7 months for the postoperative evaluation.
No. 2391174
>>2391095I hate this ugly art style that is present on all YA books aimed toward teenage girls.
I used to manage a used bookstore and I loved getting these though, they would sell fast and we had a great time in the backstore laughing at their content.
No. 2391261
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>>2391145twenty years of shaving, growing hair and avoiding sun.
No. 2391298
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>>2391250Not a problem, nona. I have an easier time detaching and I was upset by the study, I can imagine how more normative anons feel looking at it.
Picrel is a screenshot of what they had to say about the cadavers.
>10 fresh cadavers were dissected at the Laboratory of Anatomy at the Peking Union Medical College (Beijing, China) from February 2014 through June 2015. The average age of the 4 male and 6 female cadavers was 58.0 years (range = 38–73 years).Since it was through an institution, my assumption is these bodies marked to be donated for science while they were still living people. A rather grim outcome for them.
Unfortunately there is no more information on the specific ages of each cadaver. There was more information on the dogs, which were all female and 11-13 months old. I'm glad to say they were reportedly euthanized after their surgical results were evaluated. Which sounds harsh, but it is preferable to these dogs living in pain and discomfort while unable to communicate this, or even understanding what happened to them.
No. 2391322
>>2390215yea idk if that's anything worth getting worked up over. towards the end of that screenshot on question 8 it specifically says women when talking about periods. in the instance of question number 7 the term 'people' still refers to only women. they weren't trying to imply that people other than women can have periods, they likely just didn't want to repeat the word woman a billion times lol.
i can't access the article rn bc lads is under maintenance, but i remember reading that article and as far as my memory serves the article is targeted specifically towards biological women and at no point implies that people other than biological women would be going through periods.
No. 2391436
>>2391428The AGP part,
nonnie.
No. 2391634
>>2390958All AGPs are unhinged, even if some are more blatant about it than others. Skinwalking their preferred
victim class is just another extension of their violent hatred of us. Sexual violence by proxy, like Dennis Rader wearing a woman-mask while pretending to strangle himself in between his strangulation murders of real women. I can’t wait until society as a whole realises these are massive red flags that need to be taken seriously. This isn’t a marginalised minority venting and punching up, this is a deranged violent man making very real threats and getting off to the fear he’s causing.
No. 2391970
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sigh
No. 2391972
>>2391298"yeah it was inhumane and cruel to do this to the dogs, we had to kill them afterwards just out of ethical consideration"
"so you're not going to do that to humans, right?"
"what? no, that's the only way they can live as their true selves! they'll be thanking us afterwards lmao duh."
trans rights, ladies and gents, it goes hand in hand with animal and child abuse.
No. 2391976
>>2391970i don't understand what any of these words mean
Is there any troon who isn't coombrained?
No. 2392070
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I'm still thinking about Emilia Perez and how annoying it is that troons joined the hate bandwagon only after they saw everyone else tearing it apart. The movie is awful, but it's extremely accurate TIM representation, which is what they hate. Both his character, and the hateful racist misogynistic xenophobic troon who play him exhibit typical troon behavior.
I don't see how a cartel druglord responsible for thousands of deaths, who suddenly avoids all guilt and accountability after transitioning into his womansona and claims to be a victim himself; is any different from all the hundreds upon thousands of rapist men who claim they're now changed women and the rapes were committed by their "previous self". It's actually so accurate you can see why troons hated the mirror that it propped up. I see so many tims enraged by the scene where he physically attacks his ex wife and threatens her in a low male voice, and I just think of the hundreds of terrifying anecdotes of women raped by TIMs and later guilt tripped into rethinking it as consensual.
No. 2392119
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>>2392099I think troons would be gone if we learned to control moids.
Moids are just predatory, they will do anything to fuck over women, even mimicry.
If we could become a female run planet all troons would die out. Any moid that tried to skinwalk would be clocked and put in their place. And naturally tifs just wouldn't exist because women only troon out because of internalized misogyny.
No. 2392163
>>2392099Eh, I think it'll take years. Lots of old school troons are either detransing or roping, the promised trans joy looks like depression and rotting in front of a screen while crying that nobody sees you as your preferred gender, the Trump win made Democrats reconsider some of their stances on troons and pushing for tranny rights instead of literally anything else, and there are more outspoken detransers and desisters than there were a few years ago. The recent bans on gender affirming care for minors in the UK resulted in a massive backlash from troons and crickets from everyone else. TIMs are manspreading in miniskirts on public transport around normies, peaking anyone who would otherwise be a TRA.
Troons won't vanish overnight, but more people are asking the right questions, and more legislation is being pushed to control how much they're allowed to groom kids.
Troons want power and escapism. When those things are no longer part of the package, the appeal vanishes.
No. 2392213
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Marina (the singer, former & The Diamonds) shared this shit.
Don't make me hate her, unstick your dirty hands from her you creeps and Marina, snap the fuck back. How can someone sing about women struggles and then buy this shit is ridicolous, like Paris Paloma and Allie X, I know it's all a big business approach (more money from a larger demographic) but this is actually dangerous.
No. 2392453
>>2392076Jfc anon you
have to find some way to peak her.
No. 2392454
>>2392385It's not the medium or art style of anime, but that a lot of anime is literal porn material made for men, and being pornsick is the main reason men troon out.
I think anime sometimes gets too big of a blame for troons, a lot of older normies don't realize how big anime is these days, they think it's like 30-40 years ago and a small super niche little circle of nerds when in reality every person my age I know have watched a couple of animes and enjoy it casually without trooning out. So imo asking why anime makes people troon is like asking why internet videos make people troon out but what you're actually talking about is porn videos. In the end men are just mentally weak and slaves to their own sexuality, sad and pathetic kek
No. 2392735
>>2391889I'm pretty sure he saw me terfposting on some gc subreddits lmao because he started acting like a bitch minutes after I posted something.
He also made a comment about the sweater I was wearing bc it's obviously another man's sweater so it could just be that but no I'm pretty sure I'm being kicked out for
TERF crimes.
No. 2392748
>>2392735I can imagine just how ugly he looks with the fact he's breaking up with you over being an ebil
TERF. He's 5'6'' isn't he?
No. 2392753
>>2392453I know, she's my best friend, but she's in so deep that even liberal talking points are too far right for her. She's very high up in the intersection of government and academia, and so she has extreme paranoia about not following the academia party line, cause it will get you blacklisted. But as well as what she's doing being evil, I'm worried she's going to tank her career with her tranny obsession while under Trump.
>>2392489I was so disgusted that I had to make an excuse to go home because I couldn't listen to her describe her obsession with men anymore.
No. 2392849
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TIFs are really the biggest handmaidens kek. How can you , as a woman, erase your whole experience, that pretty much had to do everything with your sex, in order to appease some retarded males who whine. The whole reason you even transitioned is because you hate your sex Aiden kek.
No. 2392875
>>2382680even when i was younger i still had my doubts, i kept making questions in my head. i had nothing to lose. by 13 i had realized that nonbinary and other third genders were bullshit, how could you say your mind was neither male or female if this third mind didn't even exist? after that, i really bought the truscum/you need dysphoria to be trans ideology. and i lurked places like r/truscum. but i kept doubting, i was never completely convinced. maybe if i was american i would've bought this whole gender craze, i tend to think that coming from a catholic and more socially conservative country prevented me from all that.
then one of my online friends came out as nb, not even mtf, and made that his whole personality. he thought that his internet-only identity put him in the bottom of the
victim pyramid, when he was privileged in ALL aspects of life. he kept bashing jkr (who i was quietly siding with among my tra friends) and arguing with regular no-name terfs on twitter, not giving even half of this energy to the males that kill trannies and approve anti-tranny laws. i think his eagerness to attack women pushed me to peak. we fell out for unrelated reasons, but i still have other trans identified friends and i feel so mixed about it. on one hand, i have no irl friends and i have known these for years, i don't want to leave them but i constantly feel like a faker for going along with their identities and pronouns when deep inside i don't believe in them, i know it's all bullshit. i do try to avoid using their desired pronouns and new names, and any "mistake" i chalk it off as being forgetful. but i wonder if sooner or later they'll realize.
No. 2392915
>>2392908because they are mentally ill. If we didn't enable their mental illness and encouraged them to embrace reality it probably wouldn't bother them as much.
It's like if you tell a schizophrenic person their delusions are real and other schizos tell one another the voices are real. It just gets ugly.
No. 2393013
>>2387952I hate that this is nowadays seen as Totally
Valid lesbian experience.
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woman locked up with male rapists
No. 2393299
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Transwomen saved my fucking life and made me a better person! Because I started hanging around them, and talking to them more, I was finally able to see what disgusting, subhuman fucking degenerates they are and how retarded their whole ideology is. Thank you trannoids, for making me come to my senses. More people should see an example of a real life agp tim because they can make anyone peak INSTANTLY. I used to go to all girls' schools my whole life so I only ever spoke to tifs and while I thought they were cringe, they were pretty sweet so I figured trannies weren't that bad. Going to college and meeting my first agp and being surrounded by tims shattered the illusion completely kek.
No. 2393401
>>2392426The parents who enthusiastically trooned out their own children, especially those who went against medical advice to do so (and so can’t pass all the blame to the doctors) will probably stick to their guns forever. I’m guessing they’ll go the way of those anti-vaxxers who think vaccines cause autism where there will always be a loud minority adamant that they’re in the right even as everyone else looks on, shaking theirs heads and pitying the children.
>>2392451Isn’t Fate the one that started as a straight up porn game or VN? Getting to fuck the historical characters that somehow turn into hot girls when you summon them was the whole premise.
No. 2393476
>>2392426Idk if you can compare troons to hippies (maybe scientology)
Hippies who were just trending were able to get out pretty easy as long as they could quit the drugs. Even if the trannies quit their fucked up hormones, their bodies are permanently fucked. It's even worse if you had surgeries.
No. 2393493
>>2393475Jesus, I'm sorry nona… I feel like I'd end up getting kicked from the class because I'd just complain out loud to professor aiden that the TIM needs to keep quiet because he keeps interrupting the librarian.
I'm sure me calling out the manterrupting would get me expelled for hate speech.
I'm sorry nona. It's always been hard for women in education because of moids and handmaidens.
Keep fighting the good fight! Every woman in education means a better future for young girls!!
No. 2393522
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Blogpost but I was at a coffeeshop in the city the other day with my friend and I saw a tif. At first I thought she was a butch lesbian because she had a shaved head and it really suited her because she had a nice skull shape but then I saw
>Large hips
>Flat chest
>Nametag says some shit like "Hawke"
And I was like "oh." And then I checked her hairline and she was balding from the T. Like level 2. Sighed so hard because at that point it didn't even matter if she was lesbian it was like all my attraction evacuated the vicinity. I just took the coffees for me and my friend and went upstairs so I didn't have to look at her. God I fucking hate this socially approved drug use just because women wanna cut their hair and stop being attractive to moids lmaooo. In my opinion if tifs are gonna inject steroids they should hit the gym like that tumblr user cator99 so they have something to show for it instead of just getting fat and losing hair holy fuck kek.
No. 2393608
>>2393581>>2384336This doesn't make voting for Trump any less retarded, but it's definitely a
huge reason why he won. Trannies are also near-singlehandedly responsible for homophobic, misogynistic and racist sentiment increasing all over the place, because they insisted on shoving themselves into it and equating themselves to women/minorities.
No. 2393611
>>2393534moids don't actually peak. The reason a male will hate a TIM is very different than why a female will hate a TIM.
A female peaking is like a female leaving a misogynistic tardwife Christian cult. It's empowering and teaches her not to bend the knee to moids.
No. 2393637
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>>23736014chan troons are fucking hilarious
No. 2393656
>>2393608Again, agree completely, voting for trump is still peak clownery. More than anything, I’m just saying that I understand why so many women are reluctant to align themselves with a party of tranny lovers (even if, ironically enough, a lot of dems loathe trannys too as far as voters go). These same tranny loving buffoons are sitting around scratching their fucking heads, incapable of figuring out why he won. I honestly think (at least for those who weren’t initially on the right) it was less the shit that trump was saying and doing, and more the bullshit that the left is currently perpetuating. Surprisingly enough, eroding away women’s rights, humanity, and medical research for the sake of some creepy sexpest fetishist men really doesn’t sit well with a lot of women.
No. 2393709
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I wish that at least troons could stop using kids for their shitty propaganda. Yeah, yeah, I know, they cannot reproduce so they aim at kids but this poor girl was so angry and abused by her father that she committed suicide by ingesting pills. There was no head trauma on her autopsy but it showed self harm and yet troons use her to gain pity. Shame on them creeps.
No. 2393715
>>2393709I feel bad for Nex. There was clear evidence that she was being sexually abused by her dad and she was going to have to go back to living with him so she killed herself. Her gendie shit was just her coping with having to deal with her trauma.
But instead of addressing how we need to be more aware of and protect survivors of incest they just make it all about FUCKING AGPs.
Trannies are literally ruining everything. We as a society were making a lot of cultural progress until the troons got leverage.
No. 2393749
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>>2391322You're right, nonna. Still, I would imagine that the article in the other languages said women more than in the English.
No. 2393804
>>2393779Do it anon! I also agree with
>>2393793 on adding some contrasting posts too. The main concern I have though is how easily it's going to be for people to claim it's edited screenshots or just the
terf agenda posing as troon accounts - like how they always do whenever any video of a tranny masturbating in the women's toilet surface.
No. 2393836
>>2393793>>2393804I intend on using internet archive and kiwifarms as a resource to catalog and properly timestamp all posts including urls if they are available for the sake of posterity. Anyone who claims that what is said is edited or taken out of context can find the original source itself. I'm not sure about adding
terf quotes or voices of dissent as that would dilute the message of the work but not doing so might leave the work vulnerable to harassment from troons. This idea might take a while to cook but I would be glad for other nonas to contribute to it with their own submissions via google form.
No. 2393912
>>2393779What a beautiful idea, I support you 10000%
nonnie. Other than anonymous posts, I would recommend also including the biggest cringe TIMs/TIFs that have a social media presence like Dylan "days of girlhood" Mulvaney, Jeffrey groomer Marsh, Hontrapoints, Phimosistube etc.
No. 2394010
>>2393779ive dreamt of seeing something like this for a while now, definitely go for it!! one of my earlier posts
>>2324396 has some suggestions on potential content, but i'd also like to add that exposing deranged shit said by highly influential troons in positions of advocacy/power (from "trans rights" orgs especially) would be very helpful too. if we show that the leadership is poisoned, nobody will be able to dismiss it as a few "harmless" bad apples.
No. 2394049
And heres the form link.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdcFK0k7zIwlg--naoLOJkYGwKJtkUVHtEv_JEkgOOTFKvNEA/viewform?usp=sharingIf anyone is interested in contributing to the project feel free to submit something that you feel pertains to the subject. If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to shoot me an email since I don't want to clutter the thread.
No. 2394076
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>>2393927I’m not well-versed in the publishing field but I recommend reaching out to Ugly Truths Publishing Collective, who handles picrel.
https://ugly-truths.com/ No. 2394167
>>2392385I think it might be because in anime there are a lot of "trap" characters (males who can supposedly pass as women), and men watching become convinced they could become one of them and that it'd be as easy as in an anime.
They also tend to consume a lot of moe slice of life anime where you just see a bunch of cutesy anime girls going about their daily lives and they begin to not only lust for these characters but also start wishing they were a little anime girl themselves due to being so exposed to these idealized depictions of them so much and being made to believe being a woman must be all just fluffy, cutesy and happy like in one of their anime. Anime girls are idealized and they internalize that a cute anime girl would be the best thing they could possibly be and you can observe this in some memes they make like "why did I have to be born a tall black man instead of a cute japanese girl", or something. When in reality, no one can become an anime girl and japanese women's real lives aren't really like that. I've watched these types of anime too but since I'm a woman obviously I wouldn't want to troon out and I know real life isn't like that, but for an autistic male who doesn't interact with women they might start mistaking that for reality, and the egirls they follow who cosplay the anime characters to pander to their male audiences don't help with dispelling this impression. They start believing they could become one of them and they too could cosplay as their favorite anime girl (but forever by trooning out).
The male characters in the anime they watch are also typically either non existent or very plain, so this fuels them to identify more with the female characters. Rather than self inserting or just being a fly on the wall they end up wanting to become the girls instead because they're more so the center of attention, the prize. They don't want to be just another guy and they aren't content at just self inserting and oogling the girls, no, they want to be the hot, cute sexy anime girl that everyone is drawing nsfw fanart of. They want to feel
desired and crave objectification while real women feel disgust at it. What they don't understand (or pretend not to understand) is that they could be desired and objectified as males if they simply worked with what they have and became a desirable male instead of these futile attempts of theirs at becoming a desirable female. Their brains can't compute that they could do make up, have nice long hair and care about their looks as a male. Not a femboy, not a tranny, a
male. They're so hung up on the male beauty standard being either a manly chad or a self insert plain looking guy that they see anything outside of it as non male or woman adjacent and think they have to become women in order to attain it. They don't want to put in the effort as a guy but once they start trooning out they'll go all out and anime relates to this due to their exposure to women being mostly from there and the types of male characters they see depicted.
As for the degeneracy, I think anime does have a lot of degenerate things about it (especially the kind these guys watch, not so much the more mainstream ones), and things like yuri (lesbian anime porn) will make them more susceptible to trooning out. They'll watch yuri and also not be satisfied with just watching the girls fucking each other, once again they will want to BE one of them instead of just being the icky, plain male oogling them. Anime itself won't make someone troon out but these specific kinds of anime and hanging out in anime communities that constantly encourage degeneracy with other maladjusted males will make it more likely for them to do so, especially if they're already isolated, autistic and don't talk to any real women.
No. 2394369
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Oh no! Anyway
No. 2394438
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Exhibit 991728 of TiMs not understanding issues innate to womanhood
No. 2394479
>>2394369>former army sergeantOh, so the tranny shit was literally PTSD induced insanity that was predated upon by surgeons when the dude needed real therapy.
Also
>Transgender jonestownLMAO this cant be serious
No. 2394483
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>>2394470You’re on tier two right now. Give yourself some time and things will change.
No. 2394501
>>2394479>Oh, so the tranny shit was literally PTSD induced insanity that was predated upon by surgeons when the dude needed real therapy.Don't be so sure, it seems to be awfully common for military scrotes to troon out and discover their womanly spirit after spending years murdering innocent thirdies. My tinfoil is the fact that it's such an overbearing macho man environment, soy moids start thinking if they don't enjoy literal bootcamps then they
must be women. Military is right after programming when it comes to being infested with incel trannoids, which isn't so surprising considering it's the #1 place useless brainlet men with no life prospects turn to.
No. 2394524
>>2394470You're missing the point entirely.
>but would it be so horrible to have just troon olympics or something?This is a
valid point feminists and normal people in general have brought up ad nauseam, and trannies have rejected every. single. time. Newsflash: it was never about "just wanting to play" or "just wanting to pee", it's about control and crossing women's boundaries. Just like a rapist: if they can't take it by force and is given willingly, they don't want it. They could've campaigned to have a separate transgender category from day 1, but they never did. They only demanded access to women's and girls.
More importantly, you seem to make a distinction between AGPs and HSTS while ignoring the fact that no HSTS would
ever be interested in sports. We're talking about men who are walking, talking sexist stereotypes who would never do anything society deemed "manly" or that would define their muscles, such as sports. A truly dysphoric HSTS would feel like the hulking moid he actually is were he forced to participate in an activity that involved wearing no make up, running or kicking a ball; and he'd have a mental breakdown. There's not a single reason any "trutrans" male would be sincerely interested in sports.
No. 2394529
>>2394517I was honestly thinking just pure a-logging towards trannies but
>>2394526 is 100% correct
No. 2394557
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Deleted my last post to repost a high quality version. I think a newer chart would be good, definitely mentioning the WPATH files, the WPATH and endocrine society's circular referencing, and men claiming they're trans to get lighter sentences
No. 2394560
>>2394553>turned out as well as you might expecttbh it turned out better than I expected because I thought they were going to fuck the poor animals.
Also I'm going to guess these retards had no experience whatsoever with livestock and decided to go in expert mode before knowing how to even take care of a chicken let alone a fucking strong willed, high maitencence Alpaca.
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>>2394557Great job
nonny! I agree on an update but I wouldn’t mention specific troons like the Tranch, Jonathan Yaniv, or Nick Contino. The whole iceberg is suppose to be about the movement as a whole not individuals, no matter how gross they are. Should the Cass Review be included? Or the defunding of studies with findings that didn’t support the ideology? Or that the 41% statistic is that 41% of people who transition have attempted suicide at some point? Or the over representation of autism? The incel-to-troon pipeline? Transmaxxing?
No. 2394575
>>2394470Yeah…. probably every militant tranny hating
TERF felt like you at first. We all start off sympathetic, ready to make a distinction between the good and the bad ones, hoping to find compromises that work for everyone. And every time we try to communicate these extremely moderate, fair minded, compassionate perspectives to trannies, they cancel us as evil transphobic bigots who are committing genocide. There is no compromise with these people. They expect total capitulation and if you don't submit to their every demand, you are the enemy and have to be silenced. In fact, a reasonable and empathetic opponent (like JKR) is a bigger threat to them than a crazy, hateful conservative because the former will peak people, and the latter can be used to build up their oppressed
victim narrative.
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>>2394563>has anyone else actually been broken up with/kicked out/otherwise faced consequences for their terf/gc views…Well, I've been stalked for 2 years now because I told a previous-friend moid his positive views on trans ideology are misogynistic and he's a literal rape-apologist so we can no longer be friends. Just the other day he sent me yet another hand written letter in the post. In the letter he explained that I'm wrong and he (a man who has stalked a woman for 2 years despite 0 contact from her during that time) is NOT a misogynist and he "just wants to talk it out".
No. 2394609
>>2394470>I don't hate all troons but I do feel conflicted. I've met some TIMs and TIFs who are actually nice and aren't batshit gooners and whatnot.First of all, that's how half of us started out. We were handmaidens, or supported troons casually, some nonas are even detrans/desisters themselves. We also thought dysphoria was "real" and the "only cure" was transition. The more you see of troons, the more you learn that was never the case. It's an ideology that promotes physically and permanently harming literal children (and vulnerable adults). They cut children's healthy bodies up, and they cut off women's breasts - to "fix" their "wrong" bodies. It sometimes looks like they're happy and nice on the outside, but they are so deeply mentally unwell they think harming children is not only justified, but GOOD. They think the children are "asking for it" to happen to them. I need you to reflect over how insane that is, and just how fucked up you have to be to accept hurting an innocent child is good. It's a cult - cults often look nice and cozy from the outside.
>but would it be so horrible to have just troon olympics or something?Men are physically bigger, stronger and all that - so in reality a "third" trans category would just end up being a second male category. Not even tifs who pump all the testosterone in the world are able to break into men's sports. And if you think there should be a tim and a tif category, separate from each other… know that the people objecting to it are the troons. They don't actually want to compete in sports (they're fully able to already, in their own sex category), these men JUST want to beat women. That is the fun to them, not the actual sports.
>I feel like you can tell the difference between someone who just wants to be cured of dysphoria and whatnot to an actual AGP.Gender dysphoria is not real, it's just what they mistakingly call any and all mental illness they have just so they can claim transition is the only cure. They have autism, trauma, eating disorders, dealing with homophobia, have a sexual fixation or fetish.
Most women hate the forced sex ("gender") roles, being frustrated that men oppress women is sadly something we all experience. If you're trans what you're then saying is "other women want that oppression, but I don't so that means I'm not a woman because wanting that oppression is what makes you a woman". It's nothing but a flawed, fucked up way of thinking. Trans is an evil ideology that only benefits men - not even all men that enter the cult, some literally end up mutilated from it - but the only ones who do benefit are men.
No. 2394766
>>2394563Yup. Kicked out of an (online) friend group I have for over 10 years. The reason? A friend started identifying as non-binary and I used female pronouns for her when we met irl. And mind you I wasn't even out about my GC views, I only "misgendered" her because I saw her irl friends referring her as female kek. Like in every case it was just an excuse to burn me because we were already having a falling out for other reasons. For months later I got messages from former people I thought I appreciated asking me why I was "such a
terf ://" coupled with mass blocking and unfollowing. In hindsight that was the best thing that ever happened to me.
No. 2394810
>>2393475Why are you such a coward? Use the autism card and refuse to calm down after you tell him to be quiet.
>>2393493What fight? She isn't fighting at all - she's letting herself get stomped over like a good handmaiden. Are you as pathetic and useless as her too?
>>2393836Use
https://rareddit.com/r/itsafetishas well.
(infighting) No. 2394882
>>2394587>>2394735Thanks nonas, I realize now I forgot to mention the guy in question also identifies as non-binary himself. It was in the most lazy and casual way though and he never did anything about it like changing pronouns or even informing people of it.
Thankfully I know he's a neet without a license who barely leaves his apartment. He has still managed to show up at my house multiple times though, but I live with men so they chased him away for me. Part of me wishes I could keep track of who he hangs out with to warn any female he talks to, when we first met he casually mentioned female friends he "used to have" and at the time I naively thought they just naturally grew apart. Now I think they just left because he's such a creep. I hope to move out of this city soon so I can feel more safe.
No. 2394891
>>2393475>but my pooner professor is watching like a hawk prepared to fight muh twansmisogyny whereever she sees itTiFs are weak, just tell him to stop interrupting the class. If he keeps hanging around you and you end up alone with him, tell him to take a shower
>>2391697Deleted my reply because it felt too personal but i dated a repressed one, it was okay. He never tried to coerce me into anything and he was reluctant to discuss his troon phase. He was more desisted than repressed actually. He was very prudish, normal (aside from
that) and self-aware so he couldn't drink the kool-aid. He told me he couldn't fully accept that woman=heels, but i think his discomfort with being publicly sexual is what really made it impossible. If anything our conversations gave me insight on how TiM online spaces are essentially a playground for pedophilic groomers (troons, bisexual chasers etc). He once told me he wondered if he'd ever thought about trans shit had he not encountered bi/gay pedos at a really young age (>14). He looked depressed while saying this and it honestly broke my heart. I've noticed how even so-called reasonable male "GC" ex-troons are dismissive and insulting to men who report grooming in trans circles. It's so bad, this whole thing is wrapped up in pedophilia so flat out denial is their only option. Our relationship didn't end because of this but it was a dark spot during the whole thing. The more i understood AGP the harder it was to be comfortable with it, in any way shape or form.
>a friend of mine just started dating one out of nowhereSame nona, it was like watching her babysit a psych ward patient. He was a headache because of his sensitivity and helpless (on purpose) so she dumped him. He wouldn't talk to anyone because his voice didn't pass so she had to speak for him, i think male troons want to permanently relive being 3
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>be me
>university teacher of a small subject, around 40 students majoring
>attend student-teacher meet
>count at least 5 tifs among maybe 25 students total
>mfw I try not to "misgender" them because I want tenure
No. 2394930
>>2392849Hate it when dumb b like this think they can give people orders "never talk about sex-based oppression and listen to transwomen". No I don't think I will you retard. Don't force your miserable turbo misogynistic beliefs on other women.
>>2391970But if a married male troons out (like many do in recent years), it is literally abuse and transphobia to keep considering him as straight. Trannies make up new rules as they go.
No. 2394935
>>2394766I still think it's crazy that feminists that want to focus on real women (you know, the ones who have actually been facing systematic oppression for centuries) are now the new nazis.
Real feminism scares the shit out of so many people. It's miserable
No. 2394945
>>2391976She's retarded.
She sees that the butch lesbian who became a pooner is still going to lesbian events. But hasn't connected the dots that the real issue is actually when a guy is married to his wife for 8 years and TIMS out he instantly thinks he is entitled to lesbain spaces.
Maybe she's crypto ragebaiting idk.
No. 2395148
>>2394563Yeah. My Nigel threatened to break up with me over my
TERF views (so now I just don’t mention anything GC to him, even when we’re watching a TV show or a movie with a tranny in it) and when I made a blatantly transphobic post on social media around 20 friends, some of whom I’d known IRL for 10 years, unfriended me. I haven’t spoken to any of them since. I’ve made new friends since then and I don’t really miss my old friends. With Nigel, I wish I could be open with him about my views, but I guess it’s just something we’ll have to agree to disagree about. Nigel largely agrees that troons are mentally ill people who claim to be the opposite sex to cope, and he doesn’t think men should be in women’s sports or prisons, and he thinks children shouldn’t transition, but he thinks me being a
TERF is wasting my time by being mean to people who are already suffering. I can see where he’s coming from, but also since he’s a man I don’t think I can ever truly make him understand how much transgenderism is harmful to women.
No. 2395171
>>2395148Baffles me how he can be like "yes all of that troon stuff is bad… but you can't be mean to them, terfs are bad!!!". I'd get dumped in that scenario because the second he mentioned any actually evil group like nazis I'd throw it back in his face like "omg yes they were bad, but you can't be mean about them!!!" using his exact arguments back at him.
"Nazis experimented on children and mentally ill people" Oh did they now? Where have I seen that before hmmm
No. 2395205
>>2395191>"want us dead"Most gender critical folk do not wish harm on trannies. If anything they want the opposite. I don't want a TIF to die, I want her to accept herself and heal from the trauma that made her feel like she was in the "wrong" body.
Idk what to do about TIMS. I wouldn't go out of my way to alog. But I do want them away from women and publicly seen as the woman hating perverts that they truly are. I think it's absolutely repulsive that a convicted sex offender who is in prison can just identify their way to getting access to incarcerated women (many of whom are non violent offenders in prison from shit like prostitution because America is too misogynistic to adopt the nordic method)
No. 2395235
>>2395148I hate when men do this. It reminds me of how they'll defend convicted rapists and murderers and say the death penalty is bad and they should be rehabilitated and that they're just poor souls who are suffering. As a woman you can feel rightfully threatened by trannies, murderers and rapists, but these types of men will act like you must just lack empathy towards these males or something for just having basic self preservation instincts. They
always care more about mentally ill men than women and our safety, which is ironic seeing as men always position themselves as women's protectors. You would want them to care about it in a deeper way since it would show they care about you and women as a whole, but they never do, even the men I know who agree with me on troon shit still don't agree because they care about women, it's just because they find them gross and don't want to fuck them basically. Nothing related with actually wanting to protect women
No. 2395249
>>2395205The thing is what they constitute as violence against them is not only needlessly broad but ever changing. To the point that you can summarize it as any criticism or non-wholly supportive role as being equivalent to participating in the ongoing trans genocide. They are correct in the notion that words have power and meaning, but the flip side of that is when a word is overused to the point of absolute dilution then it also ceases to have any power it once held.
I’ve always thought of mental illness as being ultimately the responsibility of the individual, and that attempts to control the environment so you may not regress is not only an unrealistic goal but actually harmful. The whole point of mental health treatment is learning to accept the uncontrollable. There has always been a disconnect between treatment of other mental health conditions and “gender dysphoria”. Why is this the only condition that requires everyone around them to affirm them? Why is the focus never on managing their emotions when faced with a lack of affirmation but instead blames the other party? No wonder they’re miserable.
No. 2395258
>>2395148Men won’t ever care because it doesn’t touch them at all. TIFs are like a speck of dust , they are not being called scrotum havers or non-pregnant people.
It’s just women who are getting shitted on and handmaidens love supporting TIMs. I hate it and I’m tired of trannies, I truly am.
No. 2395296
>>2395148Do you rely on him for housing or financial support? You need to get your shit together so you can dump his ass instead of having to keep quiet over his retardation. When you leave him, make sure to send his number to all the gorgeous Lilliths in the area, so they can show him what a real woman does to unattended drinks.
>>2395249>The thing is what they constitute as violence against them is not only needlessly broad but ever changingThis, it's playground rules. Nobody can stand them because nothing is good enough for them. We've long moved past the point of gay men dressing as women to live in peace in homophobic towns, and lesbians dressing as men to escape being murdered for not wanting cock. Even if we were still in that era, the problem would be homophobia. Troons know they can't hold onto their new position as the mostest aboosed forever. They keep changing the goalposts to keep the grift going.
No. 2395299
>>2394563Oh it happened to me twice.
In 2017-2018, I was in my last years of highschool (an all girls college), and made the mistake of taking a classmate up on her offer to join her weeb love live dance group. It was comprised of young women, some from my school, some outside friends of theirs, doing dances in cosplay of the characters. Most of them were gendies of some sort. Ironically the trans guy who passed as a teenage guy was the nicest to me out of all of them, while the normie girls and "non-binary" chick were the most volatile, and eventually they kicked me out for some petty disagreement about anime, that started with one of them, the "non-binary", thirsting over kokichi from DanganRonpaV3. They were also biphobic towards me, acting like I wanted to be the cameraman for some perverted predatory lesbian reason, when in reality it was because I just wanted to do something other than stand around, because I was originally the role of Umi Sonoda but then they replaced me because I was too poor to buy all the outfits exactly when they demanded. I had a shift job and couldn't just give them money when they asked for taobao orders, unlike them I didn't have rich parents who did whatever I asked. Last I heard they dissolved due to in-fighting. They were also jealous of other cosplay groups in the city and would call them bitches from nothing.
In early 2023, I joined a zelink discord fangroup made of a few prominent writers in the fandom. The female member that had recruited me (for what turned out to mostly be a cult of personality for the same five friends, who you were not allowed to disagree with on any level) had reached out to me in one of the main public zelda discords, and she advertised it as a safe place to discuss zelink with other female shippers away from the moids in the main discords and sites who were constantly arguing with everyone about Zelda being a theiving bitch and whatnot. I join and have a fun time with them for a little while, we even have a channel about dunking on the salty moids who want to fuck the dead fish chick, but then it all randomly changes a month later. I was absent from discord for a bit for personal reasons, but in my absence there had clearly been some infighting, and they removed the channel about dunking on fish loving moids because it offended the furries in the discord or something. Despite being called "Zelink Hype Squad" it had turned into shipping Link with everyone server, and they befriended actual conservative lolicon incels who call people woke, despite the group supposedly hating men like that and them being woke themselves, and they befriended a moid troon who would have others write self-insert harem fic for him and generally gave the vibe of being an AGP. Every alarm in my body says "male" when seeing this person's behaviour. I had received private dms from a couple of women on tumblr who told me the group and the AGP troon now made them uncomfortable but they were too afraid of leaving, being kicked and cancelled to say it anywhere other than privately to me.
I left the group because I couldn't take these women and what they were promoting anymore. I had been advertised a safe space for women to discuss a specific ship, away from the men and their fetishes of the wider fandom, but it was anything but and they also promoted drugs and sleeping around as a good and even "superior" and "progressive" lifestyle. Part of why they hated me was my discomfort with cannabis and all the promotion of it in the server. A substance I both have trauma with (my
abusive father would neglect me to go smoke it up with his buddies) and that I can't smoke even if I wanted to due to a lung condition.
Ultimately because I was mean to the AGP loser on cutting my fake friendship with him off (a tactic I was forced to use with these people, because they would guilt-trip you), he and one of his handmaidens from the group wrote a hate fic about me on Ao3 (despite styling himself a "published author", he apparently needed help with writing an autistic hate fic). The handmaidens from the group all gave it kudos, and I think they believe I cried about it or something? but I just laughed at it because it was so disturbing and retarded. It actually hurt them more, because people thought it was werid (which it is). Even people who dislike me and what I sperg out about, thought the hate fic was a werid move. They tried to spread it to another zelda discord, but the mod removed it for being a harassment fic, at which point they lost it and the troon got his handmaiden mods from the other sever to harass the mod of the server that wasn't theirs for removing it. They've taken to harassing people who aren't even related to me or my drama with the group, just neutral parties. They also accused me of "harassing an innocent woman". They're so deluded they think a man who has other men write #1 straight guy fantasy porn for him to stroke his cock to as he imagines multiple women fucking him and inserts himself into women's groups for his own ego is an "innocent woman".
I think the hatefic might of been removed from Ao3 now, not sure. But in it the AGP guy self-inserts heavily on both Link and Zelda and fantasizes about chopping me up violently and creates a whole OC about me being a puritan virgin (which I am not kek) ending with me being thrown in a cell with a rapist character.
Since the hatefic about me was written, I've seen signs there's been more in-fighting between members and splits in the group further. Apparently the group is now into sexualizing the 12 year old from botw and catering to their pet incel moids and troon completely kek and have taken away most of their pretenses of being social justice warriors or feminists (despite previously having been very preachy, I mean preaching messages in their fanfics preachy). They deleted their group twitter among other things. They're also unironic cuck and rape fetishists. So I suppose it's not surprised they've masked off as lolicons and into orientalist age gap grooming shit.
What all my collective experiences tells me is friend groups like these always dissolves. The women who have discomfort are forced to leave. It's either comply or be hunted as a witch.
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>>2395299I am convinced that a large reason so many TiMs and TiFs participate in fandom is partly because it is ripe with the type of person who is easy to bully into doing whatever you want.
No. 2395365
>>2395249Honestly I have always wondered why, afaik, no one has ever tried putting troons on similar drug treatment to what they put schizophrenics on. If you truly believe that you are something other than your objective physical form, you are hallucinating and need to be made lucid. No one tells 80 pound anorexics that they are
valid and total fat asses. They get them therapy to help them acknowledge what is real. But now for troons the delusions are part of their identity and should be nurtured and coddled? Give me a fucking break. And I can’t stand the “female brain argument” as we all know, that study/studies, were a crock of shit. They did not show that TiMs in fact have women’s brains but that they are unhealthy male brains that deviate slightly closer to female brain patterns than the average male. And surprisingly enough, what produces nearly identical brain patterns to that of the TiMs? Mental illness. Big shock there. But of course in the case of TiMs, this fairly common thing becomes irrefutable evidence that they are unique, precious ,little girls beyond a shadow of a doubt! Take that terfs!
No. 2395393
>>2395365This reminds me; when I was a young adult, mainly between 18-21ish, I struggled so much with my self image to the extreme length that I felt I couldn't "identify" with what I saw in the mirror. I didn't
feel like an almost 6" woman with a square jaw, what I looked in the mirror didn't feel like
me, I felt like I identified more with women that were more like my ideal type. My boyfriend at the time practically had to walk on egg shells around the subject because I would just break down and say he's a liar whenever he would give me any sort of compliment or appreciation.
I never told anyone about it, because I was sure I was absolutely insane for feeling like I did. I am sure these mentally ill feelings are close to the "dysphoria" some trannies feel, but I am 100% sure they would just have prescribed me some more pills and therapy rather than give me "life saving" jaw savings and what not.
No. 2395456
>>2395357Yeah I honestly believe this after both all of my experiences and what one of my friends went through. It's not even truly about the piece of media at all, just using it as a tool to spread their political ideology, collecting orbiters who will affirm them endlessly and potential grooming
victims. They know people aren't going to stand up to them because of their "oppressed minority" status. Anyone with even the mildest concern or pushback can be labeled a alt right/far right nazi and business continues as usual.
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Based professor
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>>2395644Even Blaire White was scared to put a
terf on because the
terf would see blare for what he is (homophobic gay man)
No. 2395672
>>2395655>To O'Malley the TIFs are just attention-seeking master manipulators and the TIMs are just awkward young men who want to be closer to women.Oh dear, is she like that in their other videos too? I hadn't watched G:AWL regularly yet so hadn't realized that about O'Malley.
>Them saying that teenage girls hold "power" in their coming of age bodiesI've noticed this as a wider trend with female therapists, they seem more likely to pathologize teenage girls' behavior and unfairly assign blame on them. It's like they never grew up and unpacked their bullied in school trauma enough to realize that teenage girls aren't master manipulators.
No. 2395705
>>2395698The first few episodes of the podcast beg to differ kek. Talk to the wall.
>>2395672So many female professionals in the humanities have this mindset. It's such a cope projection.
No. 2395711
>>2395574Troons know they look and sound more male next to real women so they avoid being on camera with them. They know they'll end up having a "it's MA'AM!!!" moment if they talk to a
terf. They also know women aren't a threat to them as men so they don't need to debate them, and instead go on to debate some rightoid male at most.
No. 2395721
>>2395719I'm not
>>2395698, I'm
>>2395672. Sorry, should have said nayrt.
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>>2395677We need someone who larps as a maga and then reveals themselves as a peak
terf once they get a video with a big troontuber
>Tranny:I… I thought you were gonna talk about trump>TERF: Yes. Trump is a misogynist. Like YOU No. 2395733
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Long af but an interesting read, it makes so much sense to me that the willingness to invade women's spaces and shove their repulsive appearance in everyones face is, in itself, an inherent indication of being a psychopath. The immunity to stress perfectly explains every fucking weird, gross old man I've seen in public in a mini skirt and a crop top with his gut hanging out. Sane people have too much self awareness for that and prefer to avoid negative attention, it raises alarm bells when someone lacks that inhibition.
pic rel is probably hard to read on phone so twitter link is
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>>2395729One comment below the video seemed to imply that in the early days of the podcast, the hosts used to be still in the true trans mindset, but now they have graduated from it. I think as long as they have observed the truth about trannies and learned from it it's fine. This suddenly reminded me of the old TIF threads where nonas still gave pronoun lip service even as they discussed milk and "truetrans" TIFs visited threads to mock "transtrenders" lol
No. 2395824
>>2395148Damn
nonnie, are you me? Though me and my Nigel have strong bonds over media and moral values outside of troon stuff so that's why I also take an agree to disagree stance on it, along with I swear any time I go to argue about troons irl every bit of information i have collected in my head leaves and I end up sounding like I'm stupid and making shit up so I just choose to stay silent.
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can we talk about how a big chunk of the the arcane fandom depicts viktor was twans. because feminine shaped man = woman ig??? i hate surfing arcane tags and seeing tit chopped vik in all of them. it's so vile and widespread. im sure its all brain dead jayvik fujo tifs trying to do some weirdo self insert.
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Instagram keeps doing this annoying thing to shill the threads app where is shows you part of someones tweet (err.. thread?) and you have to log in and join to see it. I'm not gonna do that lol but it shows me this.
>Why don't they care about no trans men assaulting women hurr durr
We do. And bathrooms and locker rooms etc are like the ONE PLACE where women can go to be safe from them and now those places aren't even safe. How do they not get this?? Actual retardation
No. 2395892
>>2373593They still sell plenty of harry Potter stuff at my local hot topic, box lunch too
>>2395875She's retarded for sure but I don't think that's what she was trying to say
No. 2396350
>>2395865In general whenever I see supposed artwork of a gay man but it’s a man depicted with a vagina I feel so grossed out. I can’t even look at these without being reminded of how gross you can become with the effects of testosterone.
These artists are so oblivious and looking at artwork like this gives me an ick, it’s like I can smell the screen.
No. 2396423
>>2396322They’re always this soft “femboy” that’s more akin to a weird version of a toddler than any actual grown moid that has ever existed. They portray these fake ass yassified tumblr core 13 year old boys. Half the time the “male clothing” is a pixie cut, those god forsaken circular glasses, a t shirt, overalls, calf socks, combat boots, a satchel for some reason, and some stupid ass necklace that’s just leather cording and a rock or some shit. Then throw the whole thing on a 5’3 woman who is either 80 lbs, or 280. Bonus points for a massive attachment to children’s media that probably came out way after they were children, handmaidenry galore, and referring to themselves as goblins. Like for fucks sake, cut the shit and just be a slightly masc (violently autistic) lesbian.
No. 2396458
>>2396322Yes. That's the main reason I fall out with them pretty quickly. It's grating and I see through their crap immediately. There's a few currently block evading, stalking and harassing me because I dared to disagree with them. Their fake nice attitudes while being narcissistic psychos who talk more like the most annoying bratty girls in school would than anything close to a "man" while demanding I refer to them as male.
I have two older brothers. I know how moids are and how they talk and they aren't one. They're just obnoxious neurotic women larping as their fav anime boys.
No. 2396522
>>2395741>I don't care that they have 200+ episodesclearly
>Why would she be speaking from her own experiencesWhy wouldn't she? The podcast is not a therapy session with a client, she talks about her personal experiences with "gender", being a therapist, her clients and their experiences, being gender critical, and everything in-between. They're some of the very few people trying to have an honest gc conversation about gender ideology out in the open from any angle they can think of.
No. 2396534
>>2395758>This suddenly reminded me of the old TIF threads where nonas still gave pronoun lip service even as they discussed milk and "truetrans" TIFs visited threads to mock "transtrenders" lolOh yeah when I started reading the troon related threads on lc a few years ago anons were deadass arguing that "REAL gender dysphoric trans people aren't bad", and that if a man fully passes he experiences misogyny like a woman first hand too, and that if a man has a sexual development disorder (DSD, "intersex") that also means he experiences misogyny and is kind of a woman or at the very least a gray area of sort-of-woman, not-really-man. And lc was still the absolute terfiest, most anti-troon place I had ever come across at that point in time!
JKR was also really soft in her initial stance against troons saying she "loves and supports them", in 2020 or so around the same time when that podcast started too. Acting like someone wasn't terfy enough years ago is just silly! There are detrans nonas on this site who just 1-2 years ago were still deeply in the trans identity, thinking terfs were the root of all evil.
No. 2396579
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Worcester is planning on becoming a safe haven state or some shit and this was the hearing. Kek at the homeless middle aged TIM whos obviously on meth or something, and also the one in the background acting like a fag.
>tif exits the court house singing a tranny rendition of hot to go by chappell roan
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I would edit it to read "Trans people" instead.
No. 2396670
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>>2396579This looks like a parody or a skit, i can't believe there are people so sheltered and terminally online that they think wearing a synthetic party city wig or drawing on stubble with eyeliner is the way you dress to go to a hearing or whatever this is, all while listing 100000 disabilities kek
All the mtf trannies are obviously autistic redditors who act they're the most important person in the room because they grew out their greasy hair and call themselves Lily
No. 2396734
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Found it.
1. Mass Graves of Emaciated Alpacas
2. Frozen Alpaca Corpses Strew the Wasteland
3. All Life Annihilated into Dust
4. StinkDitches Digging Stinking Ditches
5. Putrefaction of Buried Flesh Liquefies Earth
6. Crying Herds Silenced by Cruel Starvation
No. 2396977
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>>2396869I know nona I wasn't being literal. I mean them upholding this gender role stereotype they have in their head. For example, when picrel concept art was revealed all the gendies on tumblr and twitter started to immediately hc her as a trans guy because short hair is boy to them
No. 2397381
>>2397371I think some of you desperately need to take your meds because that’s a normie take that isn’t even wrong. Regular people aren’t scared of trannies, they see them as mentally ill weirdos whom they placate so they don’t start crying and pissing themselves. Both TIFs and TIMs are no different than your average annoying street nutter wherein some are more unhinged and some just like being a perpetual
victim. And in the United States, as of now, there are way more men threatening women’s safety than a handful of whiny troons on Twitter and your liberal arts college. That’s just a fact.
It’s normal and healthy to be critical of the pro-trans narrative but you’re insane if you think they’re in any way more dangerous right now than the average libertarian or rightoid man. Wake up and stop drinking Trump’s koolaid.
No. 2397405
>>2397381> It’s normal and healthy to be critical of the pro-trans narrative but you’re insane if you think they’re in any way more dangerous right now than the average libertarian or rightoid man. Wake up and stop drinking Trump’s koolaid.When the hell did I say I thought any of that? How about you take your meds? What I am saying is that I hate her lukewarm troon appeasing libfem take. And while I agree with you that there are larger issues of moids being scum as usual, troons are far from a small problem. They erode away women’s rights, set back social progress because they latch onto other groups and make normal people hate them, and oh by the way, are more and more frequently nowadays above the fucking law. The issue is that the precedent has already been set for these freaks to continue doing worse shit to women and get away with it. I think trump is a fucking tool, but preventing these freaks from being able to enter our bathrooms, play our sports, and legally identify as us IS GOOD. I understand that it was not in any way shape or form truly about protecting women, but I don’t give a shit and hope by some miracle those two actually make it into law. The point I was ultimately trying to make with that post is that her “feminism” is bullshit, and sucking troon dick is not helping anything. Also on the point of it being a normie take, tons of women fully admit that they are afraid of these freaks in our spaces. It’s only a normal take if you’ve sipped the TRA kool-aid. (I am not trying to fight though, so even if you respond, I’m dropping this.)
No. 2397420
>>2397381Troons are comparatively more dangerous, likelier to SA or be inappropriate than normie RW men. They are infamous for this. Mentally ill weaklings or wimpy weirdos aren't less of a threat to women, have you ever seen how "male feminists" or queerio men behave?
>i never felt unsafe around a transIs not more of a normie take than the reverse, and it's a lie, akin to humoring a crazy druggie on the subway so he doesn't stab you. Normies actually don't like male fetishists doing fetish shit in public.
>they’re in any way more dangerous right now than the average libertarian or rightoid manActually troons' goal was to effectively erase women as a legal category. This is way worse than any RW measure in recent history. The ramifications are endless. If you don't have sex-specific spaces or legal considerations, dangerous men of all stripes will feel even more comfortable doing whatever they want to. Men do not discriminate with their support and consent when it comes to their interests as a group, unlike you. They'll happily use troon rhetoric to exclude you and trespass your boundaries. They're already doing that. You don't get to choose between rightoids vs. troons. It's men vs women's status, and some men are extremely active when it comes to attacking our sex-specific rights because they are motivated by fetish, a powerful drive. Whatever gains they make benefits all male creeps and is understood as a funny backlash by misogynistic men ("ha ha, they wanted to be in our circles, our hobbies, now troons are creeping on them in bathrooms" is a common male point). In a lot of countries, troon advocacy goes hand in hand with a defense of other paraphilic men, including male pedophiles (see Germany). Deciding that men with paraphilias are a protected minority is actually awful for our safety.
No. 2397681
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>>2397676So he detransed, was self aware the tranny shit was porn related, was self aware that psychiatrists took advantage of his porn sickness and fed his fetish delusions, and then just relapsed until rope?
Men are so fucking retarded.
No. 2397720
>super feminine women doesn’t like when people call her straight relationships straight
No. 2397809
>>2397720God I hate the audacity of these straight women and their larping. Someone tell them it's fine for them to be straight and they don't have to listen to Tumblr retards calling all straights inherently evil.
These women feel more annoying to me than the fake bi craze was at my school 13 years ago. At least that was a half-truth and they were just lying about being also attracted to women. This is just plain retarded. Expecting us to look at an extremely feminine, on-trend, normie straight woman and her mid moid as "queer" or somehow not straight and that she's acksually not a woman somehow. They want to be seen as special and gay and oppressed uwu so bad. Meanwhile most women like this probably wouldn't touch another woman with a 10 foot pole, or only to please their moid's lesbian porn fetish.
I'm bisexual, in a relationship with a somewhat feminine bisexual moid, considerably actually gayer than these people faking it will ever be, and we still don't pretend like our relationship isn't a straight relationship and that we don't look like an average straight couple.
No. 2397854
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>>2397812Utada Hikaru is the same as Xiran currently. Although in her case, I think it's about more than simply wanting a piece of the pie, since she wrote a song about being oppressed by Japanese moids and therefore wanting to be one as a result, had failed marriages, and seems to have other issues going on. So she's probably just dealing with internalized misogyny and went "she/they" as a result. It's a bit cringe though and her trying to sing in unnatural lower registers occasionally lately to sound "masculine" just plain sounds worse. It also bleeds into Kingdom Hearts fandom with the Tumblr gendies making Kairi non-binary just because Utada is claiming to be one and how Utada's fashion influences Kairi's designs. Also doesn't help that apparently Alyson Stoner is ALSO doing this. Although admittedly, it has been amusing for me to see a few tif fujos go from hating on the Sora/Kairi ship in the same way fujos have been for like the last 15 years, to suddenly liking it as a "yaoi" ship if Kairi is a "man" via being "non-binary" lmao. I'm also guessing because all of a sudden she's self-insertable for them as tifs.
I'm just hoping and praying Utada doesn't go full Ellen Page with it because losing that beautiful voice to this bullshit social contagion would be a loss for humanity.
No. 2397861
>>2387837A Dr. Moreau joke AND hating on the creepy AGPs in your comm, I wish you were in my comm
nonnie you seem so funny.
Creepy moid that showed up to my first few lolita meets years ago definitely helped seal the deal in peaking me. I was already almost there, but a moid in ill-fitting Taobao asking me if I could sit a certain way in my dress (on my knees legs splayed like an animu girl, you know what I'm talking about) was just the final straw.
No. 2398485
>>2398301>They want to be cute and girly but not in the way a normie feminine woman is, because that could draw comparison and they really don't want that. They treat lolita like a drag costume- a stereotypical expression of femininity that escapes the normal judgements over appearance women face because it's so OTT. See if they left it at this I could be fine with that and even be friends with them. It's the fact that some of them go so far as to medically transition and it's all they ever talk about that makes it impossible for me to see eye to eye with these women. As someone who wears alternative fashion myself, I totally understand wanting to escape traditional gender roles and expectations of women to be beautiful in a conventional way. I think that's what a lot of women who are drawn to alternative fashion aim to get out of it.
>it's not that they see themselves as men but more as broken women.This is the part that makes me feel genuinely sorry for them. Everyone around them, even handmaiden comm members will refer to them as she/her behind their backs because they know deep down that it's just insecurity. My issue with TIFs is that they've clearly internalised the idea that there is a right and wrong way to be a woman, which is where I fundamentally disagree with them. Instead of rejecting gender roles they reinforce them in the most roundabout ways. They think wanting short hair means they must be a man because having short hair as a woman is 'wrong' to them. Lolita is just what they perceive as a different 'wrong' way to be a woman so they have no problem participating in it. They don't actually have dysphoria, or else lolita would be impossible for them. What these women really need to do is unpack their insecurities around beauty standards and gender roles to realise they aren't actually 'broken women' because they're fat or bad at makeup or something. It's just way easier to take the trans pill instead, get all the attention and validation that comes with it and absolve yourself of having to do any real inner work.
No. 2398683
>>2398679it's so ridiculous and appalling, how do they actually plan on being a 'sanctuary state', what does that entail? molesting children in public?
i posted an edited down version with no commentary here
>>2396579 No. 2399082
>>2398301>They want to be cute and girly but not in the way a normie feminine woman is, because that could draw comparison and they really don't want that. They treat lolita like a drag costume- a stereotypical expression of femininity that escapes the normal judgements over appearance women face because it's so OTT.Yes. I feel like some of these hyperfeminine gendies are genuinely awkward girls but most are failed "normies" who opt out of classic femininity by putting on clown-like clothing (drag, qweerio fashion, etc). It's not that lolita
has to be that buy they usually style it to look upsetting instead of elegant or cute, relaxed and somewhat frumpy (thinking of old school/casual lolita). I get the vibe that they tried to fit in
so hard and were such conformists before dropping the towel and doubling down on whatever initially caused them anxiety (looking androgynous, like an outcast etc). They're not comfortable enough to actually aim for an idealized look (elegant masculinity, classic trad looks, whatever) nor can they stop caring and decide to wear a tshirt and jeans like 99% of men and women who aren't neurotic. Making themselves ugly and weird on purpose is what they're left with. Failed fem normies is really what most of them are
No. 2399158
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>>2397854>>2397895IIRC Himori Arakawa (FMA) had to use the male version of her name (Hiromu) to be published, like JK Rowling did as well since "boys are not interested in book/manga written by women". And Koyoharu Gotouge went theythem but mostly due anonymity since Demon Slayer went way too popular. How sad that is quite common for some female artist to hide under gender shit or pseudonyms to be taken seriously.
picrel: Fuck the LGB.
No. 2399245
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Is this character the reason why Lillith is the popular troon name? I'll never understand if so. I'd see no issue if someone wanted to be whatever vidya character or anime bitch. But going as far as trooning out, expecting everyone to pay for your hormones and surgeries via gofundme, putting in the least amount of effort to even look like Lillith or a woman is so damn stupid. Someone wanting to be a cat or anime character is old news, like several cows have made that common. Why go after a name like Lillith if you're a Lawrence with bad lipstick?
No. 2399360
>>2399245Repost but there's a very simple explanation:
they always pick mithology names like Eve, Lilith, Luna, Selene, Freya, Artemis etc because they want to be worshipped or being seen as something bigger and at the same time, take out something from women. They love the idea of naming themselves after powerful women or deities associated with them and symbolism to prove they can do it better, it's an imaginary competition when in reality it's troon-on-troon race about who wears the mask better but that creates a horrible stereotypical effect where you can clock them by the name alone kek, they put themselves in a new box, you don't see them naming themselves Kayleigh, Taylor, Ashley, Madison etc and for people who desperately want to be seen as normal people and blend it they surely do a shit job at it. That's just an odd coincidence, but since many anime characters have deity names is easy to be misled but yeah, they basically invented a new stereotype on themselves.
No. 2399964
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Packing stuff sucks and all, but call it "fascist" like if it means she got tagged like she has to wear a Jewish star or a Triangle makes me facepalm.
No. 2399975
>>2399964If the documents were in a sealed UPS package, I'm assuming it was shipped via UPS. It sounds like the documents got caught under a diverter (Am UPS worker, had to pull documents and other shit out from under diverters and due to the friction of the conveyer belt, things tend to get shredded and sometimes burnt. We will try to salvage what we can and repack it, which explains the documents being in a sealed box.)
Point being, this tranny is not being discriminated against. I promise we treat everyone's parcels like shit.
No. 2399986
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How are trannies and their supporters so delusional? I was looking at a normal poutine post, went into the comments and there was someone saying a receipt from a cashier with "have a goodnight" written on it was flirting. The OP replied saying the cashier was probably straight, I saw the trans flag, checked his profile and got jumpscared. Picrel is what he looks like (spoilered because he's ugly), no straight or gay woman would want that KEKK
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Something something Trans people didn't do shit in Stonewall anyway something something
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1/2
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2/2
No. 2400290
>>2400243the pathological need to constantly be a
victim must be exhausting. 'i heard someone shitting on AI the other day but actually secretly they were shitting on MY TRANS RIGHTS' shut the fuck up, dude, you are literally putting words in other people's mouths in order to validate your cisphobia. like they are genuinely so scared of 'the straights' that they have to invent reasons to attack them even when people weren't thinking about or talking about trans shit at all.
No. 2400348
>>2400252CISSOIDS?? KEKK
>>2400291>why are men so easily psyoppedWhores.
No. 2400402
>>2400243pedo tranny really thought he was sleek by putting the pedo accusations last. yes AI is used by degens to make porn of women and children, even a pro-AI but sane person would acknowledge it and not insinuate it's an unreasonable argument or a phobia.
>>2400252>suicidal tendencies are not inherent to our mental illness, it's because of oppressionhow come we never saw mass suicide in women, racial minorities, gay people? it's definitely the mental illness and the regret of butchering your own body hon
No. 2400861
>>2400835Do report back if you ever see it happen! My experience with these conflicting ideologies is that it either (quietly) peaks the women on transgenderism or they drop the anti-trans opinions entirely in favour of whatever TRAs tell them to believe. I’ve seen a depressing number of handmaidens who were once anti-cosmetic surgery and anti-beauty industry in general do a 180 because,
actually, wanting people to accept themselves as they are without surgery or cosmetics is transphobic! Many handmaidens are also quick to drop all support for Muslim women the second those women point out that they aren’t allowed to remove their hijab around males and therefore don’t want TIMs in their changing room at work, for example. It’s either Trans Uber Alles or they come to realise the whole thing is a
toxic farce.
No. 2400904
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>>2400886
female
No. 2401001
>>2400955If the
victim is a TIM, the headline and articles will make it abundantly clear he was a ‘transwoman’. If the TIM is the perpetrator he will simply be reported as a girl or woman with no indication that he was trans. If the
victim was a TIF then her transness will be emphasised but they will often use obfuscating language like ‘transgender male’. If the TIF is the perpetrator she will also be reported as a girl or woman with no or barely any indication that she identified as trans.
Women’s crimes are emphasised and artificially inflated. TIMs’ victimhood is empathised and artificially inflated. Violence against women and girls is downplayed and obfuscated, whereas violence against men and ‘men’ is empathised. Even when a TIM commits a murder-suicide it will be reported as the tragic death of a transwoman and he will be counted as a
victim of transphobic violence. There is so much media spin involved in this movement.
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>>2400955The only instances where the article refers to the TIF as a women is using "transgender man" (which some normies think means TIM anyways) and then when it quotes the legal documents. It's deffo not switching back and forth.
No. 2401209
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I hate how troonism twists media to fit their own agenda, it's not even about transwashing characters, they literally twist the meaning. Some years ago I read Umineko and I liked it so much and, if I'm not a literacy retard which I don't think I am, to me it's clear that Ryukishi tried to write a story, not counting the metastory layers, about generational trauma and how can it break you (literally) to grow up in a toxic environment where you're not seen, the years have passed since then and I noticed that Umineko became the "powerful twans woman" visual novel and it's extremely popular with troons. Check pic, count the women.
It makes me sad because in these years you cannot even write a story about coming of age, overcoming trauma, escapism etc without troons trying to get their cumstained hands on them but at the same time they own themselves into identifying in the most sick characters but at the same time they say that troonism is totes not a sickness that requires no therapy. In Umineko there's a boy born from incest that gets raised as a girl against his will due to some bullshit about his genitals being destroyed (If anything, this is a John Money reference) and he's so stressed about it that he sees himself as a woman. I wouldn't identify with such a broken character, I would tell on myself, right? And yet troons are so big in media, every book by a troon is a about troonism, since they are so self centered and they see troonism everywhere and put gnc people under the train (The guy from Danganronpa that wears lolita). They try to get into woman spaces, in music (Kurt Cobain debate), art (their weird fetish shit), videogames (lol Dragon Age) and the result is always so shitty because they have a self centered tunnel vision. I hate them, because they cancel out every details about a story, they are illiterate and yet people give them power for being so strong and brave to inject themselves with horse piss. I wish they could stay in whoreism and leave all the weird kid media alone.
No. 2401296
>>2401209Honestly,
Sayo's struggle with his gender on top of the topic of generational trauma is what got me from feeling kinda "meh" about Umineko and actually feel like it was a really compelling story. Troons both lack both reading comprehension and never spend too much time on the media they wanna project onto so they just check a brief summary, watch a couple of clips and take it from there. It's very telling that the only ones cosplaying Clair are women, while the others are characters that I'm pretty sure there's more than enough NSFW art of.
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he was a vet and his note mentioned multiple psych ward commitments. but sure let’s keep acting like there’s no connection between trans ideology and mental health.
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>There is no LGB without the T
Soon.
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No. 2402685
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There’s a cult of MtF trannies doing serial killings, proving once again the difference between TiFs and TiMs kek. Tifs social contagion each other and become your average high school clique, TiMs social contagion each other and start killing people in the name of anarchy or whatever
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/15/zizian-group-killings No. 2402694
>>2402685Whao, finally mainstream media have caught up!
>>2401209Cosplay fail.
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>>2402700And a rabbit hole it is.
No. 2402748
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This is hilarious but like the fuck you want us to do? Genuinely ask EVERYONE their pronouns? They really want us all to get bullied just for the 1% chance that completely normal feminine looking woman is actually a he/they. Sorry if this was posted before but I still enjoy the fact this is a 'polite' way to be transphobic.
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wow this is retarded
No. 2402818
>>2402748I love how much their existence tortures them even when they
do get exactly what they asked for.
No. 2402831
>>2402815The female lion they speak of that grew a mane had a fucking tumor that secreted unnatural hormones. So is being trans the same as having a tumor now?
I hate troons so much. They literally cannot look at a tiny fucking BEETLE that is just crawling around without going "look it's doing the girly thing! Only girls do that! So it's identifying as a girl beetle uwu" like how fucking mentally ill and regressive do you have to be for that
No. 2402933
>>2402699Yay nonna, glad to see my pet interest gaining traction.
It's like a microcosm of everything wrong with TiMs on 2010s Tumblr. Otherkins, male autism, TiMs with negative emotional intelligence screaming at each other, killing innocents because of alleged transphobia, wanting to pimp out women in the Silicon Valley but having meltdowns over people stepping on ants when they walk outside…
>>2402657Isn't Lilith related to sleep paralysis and incubi? I feel like it's a metaphor for their fetish
No. 2402937
>>2402815None of these fucking animals were on artificial hormones or puberty blockers.
None of these animals got rot dogs or rot pockets.
This is pure, unadulterated retardation and animal abuse.
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It’s like having parasites
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didn't watched the video because it's too fucking long but I've googled the VN he was reviewing and it tells me everything i need to know
"n-no you don't get it, this VN is not just porn!"
No. 2403573
>>2403470The T's are just like
abusive husbands.
>you are nothing without me but if you try to leave I'll kill you and myself No. 2403766
>>2403760even better if they're stealth and not obviously
TERF-y
No. 2403936
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I hate misogynistic troons that colonize feminist spaces more than anything. You will never appease a troon by using retarded terms like "afab" and "transandrophobia". They understand that you're a woman trying to discuss your abuse at the hands of men and they hate you for it. You're either their enemies or their slaves.
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I hate this bad faith argument. It’s a problem is males enter in female spaces, point blank.
>but rapists will rape you all the same!!
And? Should we just remove all measures since rapists gonna rape?
Outside of this retarded app normal people don’t want males in female spaces.
But at least there are people who are commenting, strange for Reddit kek.
No. 2403988
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>>2403987I won’t be afraid of a TIF given that
>they don’t have penises>they don’t have the same rates of offense as malesI’ll take Aiden on T than a 6’0 transbian Lilith with a hard on thanks.
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Again bad faith. Most of them have working penises and they don’t even get the stink ditch.
No. 2404230
>>2403988Who'd be afraid of a TIF? They can't say boo to a goose, even when they confront someone IRL they do it in the most hysterical way possible and look like spergs having a meltdown over someone being incorrect about trains. If a trans man in her rainby cane and blue pubestache and ten million fandom pins made her way into the women's bathroom, I wouldn't worry about her putting cameras in the stalls or raping me. If Buck Angel herself wanted to use the bathroom while I was in there helpless and alone, I wouldn't blink, because she looks decidedly female IRL and I figure it's better to have her use the bathroom in peace than get harassed by men.
>>2404179Kek, I feel bad for her in a way. She's huge, delusional, fucked her health up permanently, and still doesn't pass. I wish women would wake up and go back to pre-Tumblr feminism, fighting for equality instead of pissing and shitting themselves over being called a girl despite liking the color blue.
No. 2404863
>>2403988They live fully in their porn fantasies, both kinds of troons want women to be scared and uncomfortable just when going to the bathroom
>>2404257If you want to befriend a tif you have to be ready to lie about basic common sense and play along with their delusions pretty much full-time. It's possible she doesn't peak but instead gets worse and asks you to support her through her breast mutilation surgery as a friend. You then have to look at a female mutilated chest in person and celebrate it. If you asks you to go sign pro-LGBT campaigns or to go protest and scream at evil terfs, would you be willing to still play along?
You also have to think about the fact that troons are infected by other troons - she has troon friends. Some of those could be male, and she would expect you as a female to be fine with being alone with this other fellow "girl" since you're an ally. Including if you go on a trip that requires changing clothes in single sex spaces with a male troon. If her friends have young kids who identify as trans, would you still play along and smile and when they get put on puberty blockers that will ruin their lives? Will you agree when she says gay people just need to have corrective rape from troons or they're bigots? How much of your own opinions and feelings are you ready to deny just for her delusions?
No. 2404901
>>2404890I think TiM's misandry is real but it's completely different from internalized misogyny. Women come to hate their body because of cultural factors. TiMs have an aversion to their body because of their fetish (it gets in the way of their fetish) but it seeps into their worldview and turns into a cultural disgust for masculinity. It's self-serving. A man can hate men as long as he thinks he's different, because he has a womanly soul or whatever. TiM's misandry entirely rests on this fantasy of being not-quite-male. They often bring up bullying from other, manlier men, they describe a real dynamic but it's ultimately a way to describe themselves as female (as if men only bully women). TiMs's misandry is wholly external. They don't mind having a male role in a female-only context, creating meaning, speaking over women, having social power (excluding women who don't think the right things), it's a move from a highly competitive male environment to a peaceful female-only context where they get to be the
only man. Women will apologize for things that are completely out of their control (misogyny, being born female) but men demand to be worshipped because they don't enjoy being male
No. 2404911
>>2404890In my experience, I've witnessed several guys express distaste for
toxic masculinity. One that trooned out seemed to be extremely adverse to the idea, since he was a "failed male" or whatever. Super girly and genuinely enjoyed things targetted towards women. But unfortunately, he ALSO was an AGP. So maybe it goes hand in hand for some.
No. 2404948
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I'm so tired. From "this is a strawman and doesn't exist" straight to "it would be good if this type of person existed actually! and if they were bad then they were just a fake troll"
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>>2404948Crazy how often TRA's "enlightened" hot takes basically boil down to being the Narcissist's Prayer.
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>TIF: These Terfs should fear us.
>A random person: excuse me, miss?
>TIF:
No. 2405186
>>2404273Kek I have seen these Ritard-esque TIFs face to face, they still wilt when the scawy dood attitude doesn't get them what they want. I know some of them have terminal roid rage and enough internalized misogyny to rival any redditor, but those are extremely few and far between (and tbh they're probably junkies, who are a whole other level of rabid), and I've never found one IRL who's had a bite as well as a bark. Unfortunately I have a lot of contact with troons, so it's a bit surprising tbh that even the most aggressive scrotey TIFs I know of still revert back to being meek and mild as soon as they're not the hero in a story where everyone claps at the end. TIFs thrive behind a screen where they can cry as they type death threats.
>>2404257Seconding
>>2404333 because a lot of them fall prey to the cult from feeling isolated and unwelcome in female spaces. But have an exit strategy and never tell her anything personal that she can use to find you or weaponize against you. Unfortunately the cult comes first, regardless of your friendship. Don't get too invested.
No. 2405320
>>2404890Yeah absolutely, just listen to detrans males. Most of the ones who detrans are either gay and/or autistic who grew up with internalised homophobia and misandry (usually warranted and stemming from the
abusive men in their lives). It's rare that a "true" AGP detranses because they have no reason to when being trans is just a fetish to them, and MOST male troona are still AGP. But it does happen.
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Do you think this is true?
No. 2405361
>>2405359Disappear? No. But I think within a gen or 2 TIF's would be nearly non existent online.
It would be like the 90s I think. Some HSTS, some AGP's who become addicted to crossdressing/skinwalking.
But pooners would become rare again. Also none of this non binary shit.
No. 2405377
>>2405359More or less. Add in more outside/social activities too, too much time using a digital body instead of your real body leads to people feeling more "connected" and "identified" with your online avatar instead of their real life body (and then want to become/imitate that avatar), and only reading and writing degrades your speaking skills as well. The only problem is, with the modern internet, everyone is online now and you never know who you're talking to. If you have a space for kids, there's absolutely going to be adults there too, especially adults into EPI (early porn indoctrination). Just look at the hot water Roblox is in right now.
A huge chunk of TiMs troon out due to porn and the idea that they can become the hot, desirable woman getting earth-shattering orgasms that everyone wants to have sex with, and the opposite for young TiFs, where they see how dehumanized and unrealistic women in porn are and want to escape that horror at all costs. Plus the fujo-to-TiF/AAP pipeline, where being a cute anime boy is way hotter. I think this would also (hopefully) reduce the porn-speak culture that's popular today, and even over a decade ago w/ the "post tits or gtfo" shit which definitely fucked up me and some other detrans TiFs I know, because we were being told that in MMOs at 9 years old (or younger).
No. 2405402
>>2405398That’s not my position, in case my post wasn’t clear, it’s just what I think will likely happen. And yes, women aren’t particularly ‘privileged’ but even being
relatively less oppressed or a slightly more level playing field is taken as a threat by men who are heirarchal by default.
No. 2405409
>>2405400With moids, it's like having a genetic disease and porn activates it. If they smoked and got cancer, we'd say it was the smoking and not their genetics (even though both are true). Males have been used as slaves throughout history and they're basically activating a dormant survival method that wouldn't be switched on without a
trigger like porn addiction
No. 2405411
>>2405320>autistic or gay men who grew up with internalised homophobia and misandry (usually warranted and stemming from the abusive men in their lives)This is theoretically true but i've never seen one. Some are gay but detrans males overwhelmingly blame feminism and women in some capacity. They either blame us for their self-inflicted misandry or think feminists contribute by being too critical of male fetishes in public. In reality their self-loating is part and parcel of their fetish and isn't meaningfully influenced by social messaging, it's there as a byproduct of their sexual obsession. There is
no reason for a straight man to publicly crossdress on a regular basis, risking ridicule, unless he gets off to it. Especially if he's autistic kek. I guess you're right in that a fucked up childhood might contribute to fetish formation but then it becomes a whole new can of worms.
No. 2405417
>>2405411I agree. Also sick of moids pulling out the “my childhood was
abusive” excuse. Pedophiles always whine about that too. The real reason is the Y chromosome and I’m tired of people pretending it’s not
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>>2405414Congrats anon you've retired from retardation and are an honorary McDonalds table busser
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>>2405425Here you go anon, now you can join in their happiness
(derailing) No. 2405657
>>2405469It would probably be horrific like it was when lobotomies were legal. Lots of husbands/families pressured their “troublesome” wives/daughters to get one. Most lobotomy
victims were women
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These retards are ridiculous
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Im so mad that my favorite once niche band(mother mother) blew up with retarded “alt” gender special furfags.
It’s like what MTF’s did to sharks. The way these people manage to shit up every single community they colonize.