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Previous Threads:
Marilyn Manson #1 : Fuck You Edition:
>>951424Marilyn Manson #2 : Chin of Sin Edition:
>>958209Marilyn Manson #3: In Search of Lost Tooth Edition:
>>969968Marilyn Manson #4: Fake PR Moves Edition:
>>982539Marilyn Manson #5:
>>1012472Marilyn Manson #6: Baby Manson Time Edition:
>>1081947Marilyn Manson #7: Honeymoon Edition:
>>1138599Marilyn Manson #8: SinChin on Suicide Watch Edition:
>>1152190Marilyn Manson #9: The God of Fucked Edition:
>>1157084Marilyn Manson #10: Stoned and Alone Edition:
>>1163444—
Old thread bio updated.
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By popular request, one unified thread to collect all milk on Marilyn Manson, 52-year-old drug addict, washed-up rocker, serial abuser, and rapist still trying to live vicariously through his glory days of the 90s when he was still young and the drugs hadn't completely fried his brain.
>Accused by multiple ex-girlfriends, including Evan Rachel Wood, of rape, physical, sexual/emotional abuse, torture, forced confinement, and forced drug use.>Uses his barely legal fanbase to find young girls to groom, abuse, and take advantage of while dangling the same one liners of helping with their careers, putting them in a music video, or wanting a serious relationship.>Long term on-and-off relationship with Lindsay Usich, 36 year old NEET and Dita skinwalker who met him when she was 25 and has been implicated in verbal abuse and stalking herself, using his phone to send nasty message to other women he is dating or friends with, and being violent to fans.>Publicly talked about wanting to beat Evan Rachel Wood's skull in with a sledgehammer.>May or may not be using multiple sockpuppet emails to harass and stalk girls. Also alleged to have fake Model Mayhem account to find 18-year-old girls to groom under the guise of photographing them.>May have had a sexual relationship with Lilith Levisis (also a cow; see thread) when she was underage, and tried to pit her against his other girlfriend at the time, Gabriella (@sourgirrrl).>Has an assistant (sockpuppet?) named Judd who has been implicated in verbal and emotional abuse and stalking towards young girls.>Got liposuction and tried to claim the bruises were from being beat up by Lindsay.>Torpedoed his marriage to Dita Von Teese over 10+ years ago and is still trying to remake every girl he dates into her image.No significant social media links, except for the official @marilynmanson. Lindsay Usich's instagram is @lindsayusichofficial, comments disabled.
Discussed in First Thread:
>Receipts from multiple accounts discussing accusations of abuse/assault by Evan Rachel Wood, Esme Bianco, Clare Buley, Louise Keay Bell, and Ashley Morgan.>Harassment and death threats from Manson and his orbiters including ex-assistant Judd and anonymous “online troops.”>Horrorshow performances from Lindsay and her mother, Hope Harvey, harassing and talking shit about and to Manson fans.>A discussion about who is the controlling one in Manson and Lindsay's relationship.>@mansonisabusive kindly shared many receipts and info.>Paranoia and suspicion a-go-go about the general circus that surrounds El Chinno Manson and his Hollywood Hareem.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>951424Discussed in Second Thread:
>More receipts, maybe from trolls, maybe from genuine victims of abuse.>Lindsay concentrates all of her efforts into sharing updates from blissful quarantine cohabitation: plants, cats, and the usual boring posts, but most importantly—usually flashing what looks like an engagement ring.>Also shares a post from her cousin, who speaks of an encounter with Manson, when he referred to Lindsay as his “fiancé.”>Farmers work out this anecdote actually reveals that the engagement happened around six years ago.>It's decided that Madelyn is a deluded pick me, although entertaining. Farmers made a half-hearted attempt not to give her any more airtime as she self-posts and encourages orbiters to post.>A slew of other batshit fans come to light.>@mansonisabusive IG account visits and shares very interesting caps. We thank her.>Still waiting for the @666fearless full story.>Die Antwoord/Zheani/Manson connection is mentioned. Zheani has dirt on Manson, but no one knows what.>Discussion of Linday's catfish accounts including Ticklish Witch, Mina Lowry, and multiple others.>Talk of a super-fan turned super-hater, Tiziana Collins, aka Titti, and whether she faked her own death to return as her own mother.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the second thread for:>>958209Discussed in Third Thread:
>Receipts Lindsay fought with ex-side-chick, Viktoria (Twitter: @LaPetitMort_), and made her personal information public via her Twitter.>Receipts from Viktoria's twitter of Manson talking shit about John 5 (with whom he was about to tour).>Extensive evidence of Lindsay's full-of-cheap-bots followership, poor PR, and desperate attempts to build a fake last-minute career for her.>Manson and Lindsay's engagement announcement (with zero media coverage no matter how hard they tried).>Louise Keay Bell, one of the victims, came to the thread to milk her trauma and change the narrative of her experience with Manson when no one had been talking about her.>Receipts Manson sent legal threats to Louise Keay Bell and more of her and Jessicka Adams claiming Lindsay grooms underage girls for Manson.>A social statement of Louise Keay Bell saying Lindsay was part of Manson's sexual assaults.>Even though Louise Keay Bell was very vocal on her recent abuse case when nobody actually asked her, she was not brave enough to address anything from the above.>Proof of staff molesting female fans and abusing their position.>Michelle's (@666fearless) abuse case was fully revealed. Some anons questioned her credibility.>More evidence of his abusive, toxic, racist, misogynistic behavior from various interviews.>Proof that Manson forces his orbiters to sign NDAs.>Poor fake and full of shit PR moves.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>969968Discussed in Fourth Thread:
>A video of Manson admitting to fucking underage girls on stage.>Madelyn was accused by anons of sitting outside of Manson's house in her car on Lindsay's birthday. A photo Madelyn had taken of herself in her car and a few of Hope Harvey's tweets (quoted) from before she went private were posted as proof.>Questioning why Hope went private in the first place. Deduced that Manson's lawyer probably reached out to her because she was sharing too much personal information.>Talk of an account (@_noname666_) that commented on one of Madelyn's posts, mocking her and her “relationship” with Manson.>Suspicion of whether he and Lindsay are already married or not after he posted a photo on his IG page, wearing what looked like a wedding band with the caption, “The Price of Darkness.”>Receipts of now deleted hate accounts and subscriptions that Louise Keay Bell posted. @666fearless was also being harassed. Both blamed Judd/Manson for it.>Screens from a website claiming Lindsay had a “baby bump.” Debunked as a hoax.>Dawn (@miss_dangerx, @guitargunn, @dawn.slays and possible other accounts) splurging and accusing Manson of being a pedophile. Also claims that he had a fake FB account (Mark Peak II) and harassed her, using her personal phone number. Was passed off as a troll.>@_noname666_ joined the thread for a bit, revealing that Manson's was (allegedly) formally diagnosed with both bipolar and narcissistic disorders. He was prescribed lithium that he sometimes forgets to take, which is supposed to be an excuse for his behavior. They also alluded to Manson being Lindsay's financial supporter and main source of income, even during periods where they weren't living together.>A whole ton of other stuff that you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>982539Discussed in Fifth Thread:
>Manson finally released his single, “We Are Chaos.”>Speculations that Manson/Lindsay post in the threads after someone dropped a private picture of Lindsay. Anons couldn't find a source.>Screens from Reddit of people saying that Twiggy/Manson had sex with them while they were underage.>An anonymous ex-side-chick leaked some messages and shared some information on Manson. She claimed Lindsay harassed her during the entire period of their relationship via fake IG accounts. Anons finally got an answer to what “Baby Manson Time” is.>The full album was finally released. Lyrics are derivative of his older works and most of the songs read as digs against his accusers/Lindsay.>@mansonisabusive finally made their account public again.>Lindsay posted in her story that her mother, Hope Harvey, passed away. Cows made sure to milk her death as much as possible.>Their marriage was confirmed in an interview he did with Nicolas Cage.>Manson incriminates himself after hanging up on a journalist and refusing to answer any more questions after being asked about the Evan Rachel Wood situation. Rose McGowan posted screens of a message she sent Manson in her story on IG and tagged Evan, claiming she, “wouldn't be used as a shield,” not long after.>A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1012472Discussed in Sixth Thread:
>Evidence of Lindsay supporting hate accounts.>Laney Chantal shares her opinion on the situation. Caps of her liking some of @mansonisabusive's posts were posted.>Lindsay getting fan accounts to harass anyone that speaks out against them.>Edwin Costa makes a video covering Manson's history.>Proof that Manson cheated on Rose with Dita.>More comments from one of Lindsay's abandoned IG accounts, @lindsay.usich, saying that she was never a photographer before she met him.>Edwin Costa's Twitter and Louise Keay Bell's Facebook accounts were hacked. Anons speculated that Manson was involved.>Cow tries to repair all of his damaged past relationships in an attempt to find allies.>A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1081947Discussed in Seventh Thread:
>Evan Rachel Wood finally names Manson as her abuser, along with a ton of other women.>Victims saying that Lindsay participated in the abuse.>Loma Vista, his long-time record label, drops him following the accusations. Starz also cuts him from American Gods and Creepshow.>Lindsay's still buying bots. Up to 3k new followers a day.>Caps from Leslee Lane's Discord server of her saying Lindsay was asking for incriminating pictures of Evan.>Underage girls accuse Manson of grooming them on Kik.>Judd was supposedly never fired.>An ex-fan explains how he picks up young girls at meet and greets.>Welfare check called to Manson's house.>A whole ton of stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1138599Discussed in Eighth Thread:
> More victims come forward saying they were abused by Manson when they were underage.> Otep Shamaya claims that Lindsay is a victim too.> @anniejanaabrams posts caps and recordings of her conversations with them on her IG.> Evan says she had to take legal action against Leslee Lane and Lindsay after they threatened to release incriminating pictures of her.> Corey Feldman releases his own statement about Manson.> Louise Alexander drops Lindsay.>A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1152190Discussed in Ninth Thread:
>Influx of autism since Annie posted about the thread.>Annie accuses Manson of raping her.>New recording of him saying that Evan tried to convince him that his mom molested him.>Johnny Depp has apparently cut ties with him.>Esmé Bianco names him as her abuser, claiming he trafficked her.>New articles start focusing on Lindsay's abusive history too.>A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1157084Discussed in Tenth Thread:
>Still no statement from Lindsay, yet she's still buying new followers—almost 100k new followers in 1 month.>A new IG account (@rlrrpaola)—she claims she was groomed by Adam Rajcevich, Dita's current boyfriend. Says Manson was abusive to Dita, but she, “feels for him because he was on drugs.”>Annie posts in the thread, answering some anons questions.>A whole ton of other stuff you need to lurk the previous thread for:>>1163444 No. 1172407
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Annie's latest posts.
So heartbreaking seeing someone put through this.
1/3
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Annie has also bravely shared a photo of her bruised face showing the abuse she says Brian Warner inflicted on her. This is it. This is the gun after the smoke has cleared. You can't get any more clear then this. This is the Rihanna photo all over again. This is the image which will plaster newspapers the world over. Be on the right side of history. Stand tall and God bless the brave women and men who are fighting for justice.
No. 1172425
>>1172421As someone who defends her, I agree. When she has milk, serve the milk. Otherwise get lost. This one troll is obsessed and I can’t but feel bad cause no
victim should be shredded and discredited like this. This person is obviously a newfag too which I guess makes them easy to spot. Believe what you want about her past, but if she’s being taken seriously by those in charge of this investigation you would think that would be telling but not to these obsessed freaks.
I’m the woman who mentioned the ex husband in the previous thread and this is in a way
triggering too because I wouldn’t want any woman to deal with this either.
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No. 1172433
>>1172417You’ve been told a hundred times over and still refuse to sage, good job retard.
>>1172421This is a good idea tbh, there’s too much unavoidable derailing within the last few threads.
(taking the bait) No. 1172455
>>1172451Why the fuck would you make a thread about a rape
victim? What the fuck is wrong with you?
No. 1172463
>>1172455Because everyone's tired of the infighting about her case in the Manson threads. Being an alleged rape
victim doesn't exclude her from being made fun of or having her story questioned.
No. 1172476
>>1172470I wasn’t famous and my ex husband “only” sent out emails to my employer and friend telling them I was at an anti abortion rally. Hurt just as much. I said in the previous thread that my friend was raped and had to abort her rapists baby. It took her months to trust me again because my ex convinced her I was judging her. I’ve always been pro choice. I had an abortion myself when I was 19 for hell’s sake.
You’d have to be in it to understand it. I know this sounds like a cop out to some of you but it is true. It’s a mindgame that’s only made worse by someone you already fear. So in Annie’s case I fear that she’s hurting because she feels she has to be louder to be heard and it’s a spiral I’m all to familiar with but not on such a big scale. If someone who isn’t famous is dealing with this without being equipped to deal with it I empathize cause who could possibly deal with it in a better way when the trauma is so recent?
Idk maybe it’s just me but it seems unfair to do this to any person no matter how much you’re prone to resent them without letting them speak first and whatever she has to say in the “non social media thing” she’s going to say it in, I want to listen. I owe it to my former
victim and survivor self to listen.
I sent a PM yesterday but she hasn’t even read it. She used to respond. Not much but it was something. She stopped. I respect that. I struggle with not putting myself in her shoes cause of the chaos my husband created for me. I was on the verge of suicide. If that was so public for me then in my case I wouldn’t have survived it for sure.
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>>1172476Omg I wrote a novel therefore I am Annie here we go.
Trauma sucks. Not gonna be sorry about that.
No. 1172490
>>1172407>>1172410>>1172411>>1172416None of this is milk or remotely new, it was all either posted in previous threads or discussed there.
Again can anons doing that stop bringing Annie up when she has no new updates and nothing new to discuss regarding MM?
>>1172463>>1172421Second all that.
No. 1172491
>>1172476It's quite disgusting all these so called #metoo women are almost completely ignoring Annie. Where is Rose is this? Hell even ERW is keeping quiet. The only thing she ever did for Annie was repost the fat shaming comments about LDR. Some ally.
>>1172486If all you people are going to do is complain just fuck off already
No. 1172492
>>1172491Victims don't owe others anything. There might be many reasons why they don't want to speak about a specific other
victim or why they're not engaging.
Also kek at you complaining about
victims not behaving how you want them to, and then complaining about the complaining in thread lmao.
No. 1172494
>>1172492Obvious straw man. I never said they owe her anything. ERW has constantly posted about speaking up and showing solidarity, but when it comes to Annie she has nothing. I called out her hypocrisy, not that
victims must help one another.
>Also kek at you complaining about victims not behaving how you want them to, and then complaining about the complaining in thread lmao.Obvious troll. You would have to be a special type of moron to misinterpret what I said that way.
No. 1172496
>>1172491>>1172492Yes but Annie's oversharing isn't helping anyone - maybe it feels like it's helping her process, but it's coming back to bite her already. She can do what she wants but I don't think her supports (friends, other
victims, lawyer, police…) would advise her to share all that personal stuff.
No. 1172499
>>1172491Isn't it so telling that Evan didn't even put Annie's original post in her story when she's shown support to almost every other
victim, even the lesser known ones like Louise?
No. 1172502
>>1172494>everyone who doesn't agree with me is an obvious trollName calling isn't making your flawed logic any stronger lmao.
Annie is nothing special. If ERW hasn't done what you think she should, again, there could be a hundred reasons we don't know of for that. "Calling her out" on that is exactly doing what you say you aren't, eg saying she owes Annie special attention. She doesn't. Nor did Annie ask for it.
>>1172499No it's not necessarily telling. Truth is, we don't know what other MM accusers have been telling each other, we don't know if they are speaking behind closed doors etc.
All we have on that front is speculation.
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I don't know whether ERW is ignoring Annie because she's not getting the attending she wanted for herself or if it's because she doesn't beleive Annie
No. 1172509
>>1172499The other vic seem to follow a common strategy, published their allegations and now work behind the scenes. Annie is a loose cannon and appears to be a person who won't take advise.
The others may keep her at arms length for that reason. She is unpredictable and addicted to attention (even from strangers)
No. 1172512
>>1172496Kind of agree on that one. If someone is advising her, they're doing a piss poor job at that.
>>1172509This. I'm guessing she also set herself up by over the top oversharing publicly in the past, on social media or/and with MM over the years, who could then gather ammunition for blackmail.
>addicted to attention (even from strangers)Her coming here was a huge red flag for me. That right there is why I have been cautious about her. Her story is prob true but the way she acts is not helping her credibility.
No. 1172515
>>1172492I think that because Annie’s supported by Evan’s actual partner and the woman in charge of the Phoenix Act among other PA employees says more than anything about the other
victims. Annie may find catharsis in writing but she’s not stupid and isn’t revealing anything that will compromise the investigation or the real milk she’s got on him. Evan shared the article that was entirely about Annie’s leaks and it was a nod to her. Esme showed open support in two stories. But you don’t got to be a detective to realize that if someone has hours of recent recordings about the person they’re accusing, that you should keep your mouth shut and pretend everything is fine and dandy cause those recordings may be key in this investigation. Sham games and all aside doesn’t change that they might have something valuable on their hands and they don’t wanna reveal too much or make it obvious. As
victims none of them should associate with eachother so if Annie asked her friends and family to unfollow she probably asked them too maybe cause she’s smart enough to do that or maybe because they were all advised to do that. Whatever the milk in the next week or two I’m here for it.
No. 1172518
>>1172515Yeah that was one of the thing I thought might be happening. Apparently
>>1172459 there's an interview coming that could possibly clear the air a bit on that front, although haven't seen any caps confirming that one.
No. 1172520
>>1172510
>Why not combine your efforts and stories and stand as a unified front against the same abuser? Something doesn't add up.They probably are combining their efforts, just behind the scenes.
Annie is too unpredictable, publically unifying will just make it easier for the smear campaign to spread by association.
No. 1172525
>>1172509
>She is unpredictable and addicted to attention (even from strangers)I don't think she is addicted to attention, I just think she is trying to control the narrative by giving her side of the story. Annie's only problem is that she is not able to ignore the trolls. The other
victims are better equipped to ignore the smear campaign. Esme copped a lot with her trafficking story, and Evan is copping it from multiple angles but they both know better than to take the bait because they know it is futile with trolls.
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It's amazing ERW will constantly spam these basic bitch feel good quotes but she won't give a single boost to Annie who is absolutely destroying MM with the treasure trove of evidence she has. ERW has already been to the police and they couldn't do anything because she left it too late. Now we have a woman who can bury her abuser and she does nothing to publically stand by Annie. It makes me support Annie more and think ERW named MM for more selfish purposes.
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>>1172530And Annie posted that quote several days ago before that page (and Evan) even posted it. They just changed the colors after. Evan has done this 3 or 4 times now where Annie posts something and Evan hours or a day later posts the same random obscure thing. This story is in Annie’s highlights on her IG under “flying monkeys”.
No. 1172590
>>1172512Why is a
victim coming here a red flag? Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Would you not want to correct misinformation about yourself? If you were traumatized from abuse and an ongoing smear campaign, would you behave in a totally perfect way? Dumbasses said the same thing about LKB, she was no longer credible because of how she acted after being bullied and smeared. Other
victims have also posted on previous threads, anonymously. All of the
victims are aware of this site because people message them about it. Really sick to bait abuse
victims into responding then using the fact they visited the site as "proof" they're not credible anymore. People are so thirsty for drama and milk that they'll try to create it themselves.
No. 1172594
>>1172590>Would you not want to correct misinformation about yourself?Ntayrt but nope, I wouldn't. It's a gossip forum.
She said she had read the threads, probably had seen our reaction to the LKB invasion lmao.
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What do u guys think abt this one? Is that sg he would do? Was he just trying to be sarcastic?
No. 1172600
>>1172590Ayrt, this anon
>>1172594 and this one
>>1172596 gave you the best possible answer about the red flag.
I'll leave aside the rest of your fallacious argument about "smear campaign" on fucking lolcow, a gossip site. This isn't a safe space for
victims of trauma or whatever, there are message boards dedicated to just that. Go to the info page if you still don't get lolcow, is all I can say. Trying to equate anons who question things to "being like a narcissist" just demonstrate how little you know about this place lmao. Debate is not prohibited here.
I actually don't care about Annie, much like
>>1172596 she's just a fucking pain to deal with and has been for many threads now. Her coming here has absolutely not helped her case. And anons like this :
>>1172416>Stand tall and God bless the brave women and men who are fighting for justiceTop kek, they are really not helping either.
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taken from the hilariously named @mansonhashumanrightstoo
annie posted a number of photos (since deleted) with captions suggesting she was with M but none of them show them together in the frame.
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No. 1172603
>>1172600Thank you for admitting this site is
toxic.
No. 1172607
>>1172599He was trying to be the best edge lord in the world.
>>1172603Nta but welcome to lolcow, my dear moronic newfag.
No. 1172620
>>1172609I am with you there. She supposedly has mountains of evidence, yet, can't supply anything at all proving they actually knew each other or met. Given that she has a past with lying about relationships, I do think she should try to do that. ANYTHING proving her claims. All she has is a bunch of very convenient heresay.
Given her many fake personalities ect, nobody knows her real identity and she will just delete her socials when shit hits the fan as she has done in the past.
I am done listening to her lies until I see some REAL evidence. (Not edited, forwarded emails that you can easily mess with.)
You can call me whatever you need to call me, but I know for a fact she is not a
victim of MM and I am in shock that so many of you are buying her bs. But, only time will tell….
No. 1172630
>>1172625Agree, this is exactly why I refuse to believe she is lying. She might be exaggerating a little bit here and there but I believe she is a
victim.
No. 1172658
>>1172657Second that although you would need substantial material on her first.
Also second that to clear the thread off her a bit.
>>1172631 exactly.
No. 1172669
Annie's thread is here:
>>1172668. I wasn't sure which board to put it on, so I just put it on /snow/ because that's really the only one she (barely) meets the requirements for.
No. 1172690
>>1172669Oh fuck off. I hope that thread is locked you lunatics.
>>1172672No, it’s not a “special case”. Lolcow is now leaking with all of your Manson diarrhea and it isn’t even generating any interest outside of you superfans. You faggots are annoying.
No. 1172708
>>1172702Haha. Exactly.
I miss the good old threads.
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I come here every few days to see if there’s something new and the same shit is rotating over and over. You dumb cows are lapping this up and willing to believe any dumb thing Mansonites feed you.
No. 1172717
>>1172716No. I’m not participating in a stupid Annie thread. Making one about a
victim is so fucked up.
No. 1172729
>>1172717There is no proof she’s a
victim. And until I see she has something actually legal against Manson like a lawyer or police report - she should not be defined as a
victim.
> but I think now there may be truth behind Annie either still working with manson or she is a sockpuppet of his.>>1172652>>1172620 No. 1172736
>>1172725Well said. At the very least, anons need to stop reposting all her non milk shit constantly and repetitive comments ad nauseam here.
But i feel a lot of us have been pointing this out for the past three threads now and no one will listen sooo…
Perhaps time to put the banhammer down and just temporarily lock the place up.
No. 1172748
>>1172382So whoever keeps making these threads, why did they leave out the part about Manson being investigated for child-trafficking? Yet they care so much about Lindsay making a statement, and keep talking about her fake followers? Nobody gives a fucking shit about her. Why would a dumb whore cunt who threatened Evan and has a police report filed on her for blackmail,
making a statement would matter? Yeah… playing happy ‘house wife’ really worked out so well for Manson.
If he doesn’t get charged for rape and/or assault, he’s definitely getting charged on something.
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You guys have seen the last ep of American Gods?
He had a little role this season and in this week episode, characters goes to meet him up and image related happens.
His fictionnal music group "Blood and death" poster has a big fat cancelled written over it.
I don't know if they did it intentionnaly since he was fired from the show or it was written like that even before his cancellation, but damn, it was a tasty treat to notice it.
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>>1172748Yeah they should’ve named this thread ‘The Pedophile’ Edition.
No. 1172844
>>1172839Sounds like the sick pedophile freak still chiming in to try and justify how being “underage” isn’t a child.
The laws seriously need to be changed to anything under 21 should be considered underage.
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Hey look, I guess we can all accept that Annie is part of the chins downfall story in one way or another. And if she is going to post pics of Manson playing with an Elton John Barbie I’ll take it lol
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It's all over for annie. She admits all those screenshots are in fact her writing but we're to beleive Brian (and these mythical flying monkeys) spent months meticulously creating fake accounts, accumulating an audience and slightly changing the wording all so they could sabotage a woman who still refuses to provide any evidence for her claims? She must take people to be as stupid as she is. It's all so laughably obvious.
No. 1172892
>>1172839Err no that's not? A teenager is not a child and you wouldn't talk about pedophilia regarding a teenager. Haven't seen anywhere reported he was investigated for child trafficking apart from this cap
>>1172829>>1172844No I'm not MM, unless he magically morphed into a French fag in their early 20s. PSA for the umpteenth time, not everyone you disagree with is MM lmao.
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>>1172902
Probably because she doesn’t want him to look more of it up and use it against her. Why are some of you so dimwitted? I’m sure she could reactivate it and find it all there again. And why is everyone ignoring the edit she made over an hour ago? Bias, that’s why.
No. 1172914
>>1172893and the underage aspect? is that perfectly fine? how about the blackmailing? is that okay?
let’s also talk about the fact his ex personal assistant Dan Cleary has said months ago that he actually witnessed his abuse against Wood.
you won’t ever get clear evidence provided by these girls because you’ll just dismiss it over and over again. should they have filmed the humiliation and abuse they were subjected to just so in the future they can post it online to appease some mouth breathing idiot?
No. 1172921
Just thought getting back to manson and the claims made over the years is a good idea.
>>1172909Also, I'm not into conspiracy subjects much; but doesn't marilyn manson's heart tattoo look like girl lover and boy lover mixed together. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, that tattoo gives me bad vibes. It's unlike other symbols he adores and is so out of place. (what is the meaning?? Because he is all about his symbols)
Kind of reminds me of the swastika on his chest and how he walked around with it on display at an urban event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcjSyMqTTq0As if he thinks he's smarter than everyone, therefore making him superior. (in his mind.. of course)
(embed) No. 1172925
>>1172922Gtfo with your attitude calling anons pedophile because they have a different understanding of a term. Legal definition of pedophilia is up to 12/13 years of age.
>So just because there’s not a bunch of articles regarding the child-trafficking, that means it’s not a real investigation?Point me to a reliable source that details MM being a pedophile trafficking children or again, GTFO. So far, you simply have none. We did hear of a potential investigation into minors, that's it. Now take a chill pill and quit nitpicking to infight.
>>1172914Don't take the troll bait anon.
No. 1172940
>>1172932Jesus fucking christ you are a dense one. Where did I say minors aren't child? All I said was make the difference between underage (=teenager) and child. Where the fuck did I "justify" that minors aren't child? You're reading what you want to read. Calm the fuck down and quit derailing.
And if you do have actual proof MM trafficked actual children, not teenagers or young adults, please go to the FBI tip line asap.
No. 1172956
>>1172953I agree that the Annie subject should drop unless she provides more milk but to drop her entirely “unless she provides proof” is the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a while. None of the
victims have proof of the rape. Annie has provided more evidence than any of them. Absurd request is absurd. Bringing her constantly up is annoying I agree but that’s what trolls have got to do And that’s on them.
No. 1172964
>>1172956It's not so much that she hasn't provided proof because none of the accusers have she so publically, it's because there are serious question marks about Annie which cannot be resolved without evidence.
There are clearly anons willing to die on the hill in believing her or calling her a liar. To call them all trolls is a little disingenuous.
A moratorium until she provides evidence will significantly improve the quality of these threads.
No. 1172965
>>1172960Dimwitted again. Having dozens of hours of recordings she’ll hand over if she hasn’t already and a vast amount of written conversations is plenty to prove they were close. She released more publicly than most and probably because of people like you.
Victims have to go so far to prove their own trauma. I know because I had to as well.
(stop) No. 1172967
>>1172966Exactly. isn’t it unusual that they’re so hung up on Annie and so gung ho on bringing her down? Don’t you think that also says a lot about how afraid this guy is? Outright dismissing what she said he’d do to smear her from day 1 is a stupid thing to do. She gave us more than most just so she can speak up and hope that it carries her through to the investigation and it still isn’t enough. Instead of suspecting someone who provided some back up and is clearly traumatized to such a degree, we should be looking at the simple but smart tactic mansons camp deployed to shut her up.
I’d rather not give Manson the honor and privilege of shutting a
victim up.
No. 1172969
>>1172966I see what you're saying, but with Annie having such a credibility issue I'm not confident she is doing any good for the accusers side either. I'm not advocating for a permanent ban. As soon as she provides evidence substantiating her claims the moratorium could be lifted. That seems pretty reasonable to me. The quality of these threads as they are is so woeful and if anything it's just distracting evidence being collated by the other
victims stepping forward.
No. 1172972
>>1172969You are the only one here claiming a "credibility issue" and expressing a faux concern for other
victims. There is nothing "reasonable" about your request.
No. 1172986
>>1172978>…and it will reduce the number of new posts to zero. Because, aside from the Annie´s stuff, almost nothing Manson-related is happening (publicly)Maybe you're not understanding. I haven't suggested permanently blocking Annie. Only that a moratorium be considered until she provides evidence. She could do that today and that's all over and the mods can than move toward considering banning posts which derail by calling her a liar.
The only people afraid of a moratorium on these grounds are those who don't beleive she can substantiate her claims.
No. 1172991
>>1172986No, you’re just saying you don’t believe her. Some of us are saying that dozens of hours of footage recordings and then messages and emails and a video of her scrolling down to his official account messages is plenty of proof they were close. He liked dozens of her photos. I was a Manson fan for two decades and he’s dumb as a bag of rocks sometimes but not this dumb. If he deleted a bunch of her stuff prior to September and she still has dozens of hours of recordings then that implies they were close as hell. No one has time for that unless they’re invested in something. Your version of evidence would entail things she wouldn’t give to us. Yet she has still given us more than the majority of the
victims. Get the fuck outta here with wanting to please Brian by silencing a
victim. Your belief in her is irrelevant. Drop the fucking subject like you want it dropped and it’ll go away. You brought it back up.
No. 1172997
>>1172940You are the one who is dense. You just said a teenager isn’t a child.
>>1172892
>And if you do have actual proof MM trafficked actual children, not teenagers or young adults, please go to the FBI tip line asap. Here you fucking go again! You just contradicted yourself. This is you trying to justify it! A teenager IS AN ACTUAL CHILD!
And now you’re even denying the fact that he is being investigated by the FBI for child-trafficking!
>>1172944I’m not a troll. It’s obvious you are replying to yourself.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1173001
>>1172996I could say the same about you and your obsession to silence a
victim who has given us more milk than anyone in the past year total. It’s strangely consuming you when moving on to a new topic is easy. You want to be able to say those things but then you get a sore bum over people telling you they disagree and see her as a
valid source.
(stop) No. 1173010
>>1172997Thank you mods for banning this imbecile.
I'll just clarify some of this trolls comments to hopefully prevent anyone else trying to use them.
>A teenager IS AN ACTUAL CHILD! teen years are from 13 to 19. No country in the western world considers a person throughout this entire age group as a child.
>And now you’re even denying the fact that he is being investigated by the FBI for child-trafficking! The FBI have categorically stated they have not confirmed or denied any investigation into marilyn manson
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kek American Gods followed through, the only shot of Manson in his final episode was his disemboweled corpse
No. 1173132
>>1173129Lol oh that is good.
At least there’s that. Brian must be fuming.
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For fans of American Gods it was a pretty bold choice but they've called out cancel culture in the latest episode which was to feature marilyn manson
No. 1173215
>>1173205That’s not a Romeo and Juliet law. It’s just a regular law in European countries that if they are underage they can only consent to someone within a 3-5 year age difference. Which that anon conveniently left out.
Not for sick men who are adults 30 years older fucking children.
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So Aanie did imply Manson did this to her, but no context right? She mentioned rape (having been asleep) which seems his M. O. Did he hit her? Looks like a hospital Pic, did she file something? The mandonhashumanright IG makes it look like the bruises came from a seizure.. This could be top evidence, but can she back it up?
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This was a comment made on @marilynmansonews for anyone who was wanting to know why Lindsay never made a statement… this is apparently why.
This woman also said Annie is a catfish.
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>>1173249I would assume that’s what it means. The person on the account is being ran by someone else and they’re not who they claim to be and using photos of another woman. Which would mean if this is the case, that Manson would have to be behind this setup since he followed the account and talked with them in texts and phone conversations.
No. 1173261
>>1173255getting warm
the woman in the photos is behind the account and many more
other people pictured with her not so much
whats in a name anyway
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>>1173288Well I also found it weird all her friends abandoned her which she goes into in her first post about MM but she has since deleted their names. She claims MM turned them against her, but I wonder what else is going on. Interesting story on her Instagram, is she pre-empting that someone is going to come out with abuse allegations against her?
No. 1173293
>>1173290everything the prophet said would happen did happen! it is nothing but proof of her divinity!all but one
last week we were warned to expect vengeance from those who claim they are her exes
clever girl
always one step ahead
No. 1173319
>>1173316Ok but why is annie the ONLY target of these flying monkey attacks? ERW has the leslee lame photos and some idiots tried to discredit esme for her kinks, but there's been nothing else on the her or the other
victims,and certainly not on this level of co-ordinated crazy. Sorry there's just something off about this whole thing.
No. 1173321
>>1173319Because Annie is the most recent
victim and seems to have actual evidence. I have a feeling she’s working with attorneys left and right to finish him.
No. 1173324
>>1173319Because Evan and Esme weren't in a pretend relationship with Manson, and there are abundant non-photoshopped pictures and articles out there to prove it. Sorry, but that's the truth.
Annie's self-insert fanfiction isn't helping
victims like Evan and Esme.
No. 1173329
>>1173324My thoughts exactly. Surely she has some photos of them hanging out that aren't considered evidence. If she doesn't want the scrutiny (because I understand that can be traumatizing for a
victim) then she needs to kay low and wait until she's vindicated by the legal system
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Would she do that just to gain his trust? Strange. I am sceptical towards her. Also,she doesnt look like Manson's type to me.
No. 1173332
>>1173329Didn’t she say he deleted everything of hers before September? She hasn’t seen him since Covid so she probably doesn’t have picture proof. Her best bet is having audio of him admitting to when they met so she can use that as proof. She said something was coming this week so why not wait and see if she explains this? It’s interesting that the accusations against her skyrocketed the day after she mentioned that she’s working on something big. They were already there a little bit but it blew up since she mentioned “next week”.
And I’m inclined to believe her. Easily. His fans are psychos and are taking advantage of how easy to manipulate this situation is right now. Right now anyone can message that Instagram account with a new fake social media post credited to Annie. It doesn’t even have to come from Manson anymore. Which is why I don’t care for the easy to fake posts. It’s not shady. It’s just a bunch of obssssed fans following the same dumb thing and Annie is a bit stupid for addressing it. I believe her but she’s making herself more of a target by addressing it.
No. 1173364
>>1173341Ew. Right?
>>1173330You mean his type are 12 year olds.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1173375
>>1173330> a few months agoconveniently there is no timestamp included in the screenshot of her post. how do we know she posted this a few months ago instead of years ago?
> Manson has human rights toothis moron thinks that having rights means nobody can criticize you or try to hold you accountable for your wrongdoing. clearly not a very credible source of information.
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>>1173375Yes,I agree the title "mmhashumanrightstoo"is pathetic lol but this is written just under it,which I agree with.
I believe all the
victims but I have some strange feeling towards Annie,as I said.
Since there is no milk,why is it a problem to talk abt Annie? Still somehow related to MM.
Time ll tell for sure the truth about Annie. Either shes lying or not.
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HmmmT I’m still easily on her side over easy to fake screen shots. It’s so obvious grudgy people and Manson defenders are here. groan
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Part 2. When my abusive husband turned on me three of my friends did too. They were never great friends but they were almost as manipulative as my ex husband so they manipulated the situation hard. Took me months to convince my real friends that they were after me and smearing me. I’m not even famous so I can’t imagine dealing with this on a more public scale where loyalties for the abuser are much stronger and louder.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1173429
>>1173418It adds lots of context for me. This is how
victims are smeared. Let’s say it’s impossible to know for certain and that it’s a he said she said with no proof. Fine. But her friend known for faking IDs and government documents which he sells to people can be proven so she has that working in her favor. All she’d need is a corroborator and if this is someone who was in her circle I’m sure she can find one. Whoever the other person in the group is who’s hiding that someone in their life has been in Canada illegally is fucked too and this would be the easiest to prove. This paints a way worse picture about them than about her. Even if she made shit up, and evidence points otherwise, what she has on them is worse. If they’re helping him, they must be really stupid or forgetting that she has dirt on them too.
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>>1173454In the post the other day she mentioned that he threatened to have her family be unemployed and end up on the streets. I believe her because her rage regarding the threats to her “family’s livelihood” are palpable. It’s one thing to make up a bunch of shit, it’s another to be known for committing a major crime and cyber bullying someone. Odds aren’t in their favor if they keep doing this. But by now Manson probably has all he needs on her with them or without them.
No. 1173464
>>1173459I am see those sort holding a grudge and doing this. She shouldn’t have paid for their trips and whatever else. When you cut off the supply to people like that, they’re out for blood. It was stupid of her to pay for someone’s shit if they’re so shady to begin with. Or maybe she didn’t know back then. Who knows. Messed up though. The government ID faker could’ve worked with Manson for a while and may be behind those fake photos.
I’d report these people anyway. They already crossed the line imho
No. 1173489
>>1173487Obviously if
victims aren't sharing every minute detail then clearly they're terrible lying people
No. 1173592
>>1173569this has been pointed out already you repetitive cunt
>>1173380btw we can tell which posts are yours when you type "anonymous" with a lowercase "a" into the name field newfag
No. 1173632
>>1173627Some have reported him being very difficult to work with but a few people have come forward the last week saying they say nothing negative in their experience.
If we shift away from the circus surrounding some of the accusers and being it back to the base accusations by ERW and Esme I have to wonder why the media is not demanding manager Tony Cuilla to explain himself. He's worried closely with him for over 20 years and Manson has always mentioned him being involved in their debaucheries
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They mentioned us. Yaaay. Thats cute
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On the same insta account there is an article of Annie,describing how crazy Annie is.
Thats what "weissekatze" commented below. Is she the one talking? Funny.
No. 1173658
>>1173647Its so strange. There was a post here earlier which they deleted shortly after pointing out the irregular comments made defending Annie a few hours ago.
It makes you think if there is really a conspiracy going on between both sides or if it's just bored idiots with too much time on their hands.
I'm thinking bored idiots because why would a real conspiracy bother with lolcow and low effort instagram posting. Either way I'm entertained lol. Let's see if snnie ends up calling the cyberpolice
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Strange
No. 1173680
>>1173673These screenshots are coming from one of her "old" friends. They have since stopped talking. The friend took these screenshots at the time of Annie posting them.
Hence, why she is giving the warning now about her old friends "working with Manson".
They would like to remain anonymous….for now. But, I'm sure when they are ready to talk, Annie will have an excuse and these mindless fools will believe her.
No. 1173687
>>1173682A
victim who just got away from an abuser a month ago has a hard time processing. Who woulda thought?
No. 1173690
>>1173687She's indicated the abuse took place years ago
No one is forcing her to make an ass out if herself online though
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(not Manson related)
No. 1173713
>>1173712She said she asked her friends and family to unfollow her a day before she unfollowed the
victims and vice versa. Phoenix Act people showed open support and commented as recently as two days ago. PA is Evan’s company.
No. 1173717
>>1173713lmfao. You aren't looking to buy a bridge are you?
The accusers dumped her and she said that stupid story with no evidence to back it up
No. 1173721
>>1173717You must be incredibly retarded to believe that. PA carries far more weight than the
victims following. PA is leading them all in this investigation and they’re owned by Evan. Evan’s partner is Illma who’s openly supporting Annie. Fuck off with your reaching newfag.
No. 1173723
>>1173719So the story is the women who had already publically named manson as their abuser had to unfriend annie because THATS the objection point from the manson fanatics? you realize how retarded that sounds right
I want to beleive her about the rape but she obviously exaggerates/lies on so much petty stuff
No. 1173728
>>1173723You’re incredibly dumb if that’s how you think major investigations work. They’d want her focused on PA alone and would probably recommend that they don’t show signs of collaboration that would impact the investigation negatively. If it looks like they’re concocting a story together, it’s not good. It’s standard practice in class action lawsuits as well. Some of the other
victims have been friends for a long time so the follows make sense. But
victims like Louise and Annie wouldn’t be part of that group so it was probably a mistake to follow from the get go. Esme could’ve deleted her story shout-outs to Annie but she hasn’t. It’s still there. You’re determined to believe one side and nothing will convince you otherwise so there’s no point in wasting my energy trying to explain to you how class action lawsuits would work.
No. 1173745
>>1173740Sure you have. My brother is a lawyer who told me that’s procedure, especially when it comes to
victims.
You’re still ignoring that PA is leading these girls and that company is led by Evan and her partner Illma who supports Annie. If you think this is nothing? Then I can’t help you.
This bickering is so fucking retarded. She’s coming out with something this week apparently. If it’s an article, it’ll be fact checked. If it’s a formal charging, it’ll be backed. Biased stupidity is NAGL.
No. 1173746
>>1173723Thing is, a lot of people have accused AA of lying (on stuff other than strictly MM), and so far, have failed to produce any evidence.
The first time that came up was after a blogpost was published on ONTD to "advertise" Annie insta post outing MM as her rapist.
Users in the comments were quick to point out they knew her from her (heavy) posting on ONTD - verifiable thanks to a username (see previous threads for caps). You can indeed find hundreds of AA posting, complete with pictures of herself, so the account is indeed hers (won't post caps because not directly related to MM).
But, and that's a big but : the ONTD users accusing her of having an habit to lie and fabricate things (such as photoshop pic of Annie going to the Oscars, photoshop pics of Annie with JJ Abrams etc), all failed to materialise.
When pressed, the ONTD users could not produce any of the receipts about Annie being a pathological liar as they claim. The same claims made their way here. And they are still not backed up by any hard evidence - at all. (Hard evidence = said fabricated pic you can link back to one of her social media page under any of her nicknames, either through screenshot or the actual page etc. Not just a pic that could have been photoshopped by anyone. Annie has a very public Flickr with 5000 personal pictures on it, anyone could therefore photoshop her etc).
So once and for fucking all : anons claiming Annie is "shady", "lying", "dodgy", has been fabricating stuff her whole life : for the love of the milk god, PROVIDE THE FUCKING EVIDENCE of Annie being a liar, instead of just posting the same repetitive comments ad nauseam.
Personally, I believe her story. No one has been able to bring a shred of evidence of her lying, or inconsistencies in her story. On the other hand, she has produced a shit ton more evidence than any of her detractors so do the maths, anons.
No. 1173747
>>1173745Let's catch up next week.
If you're right I'll owe you a beer.
If nothing comes forward with any
valid evidence supporting Annies claims I'll settle for you making a comment that you were wrong about her
No. 1173748
>>1173746IA. And that ONTD thing was just one user. The rest questioned them and asked for receipts but nothing was given. And if Annie’s friends got involved which they clearly did then they would’ve had tons of photos on their own phone of her probably. They could easily shop shit too.
This is what I don’t get about some of these Manson defenders. She has provided proof they were at least quite close. These people have shown nothing but some lame screenshots that can be faked. Nothing from the source itself.
I’ve no reason to doubt her as a
victim because she has given us proof of close association. They’ve given us alleged screenshots and writings that to me don’t even sound like her, just an imitation of her.
No. 1173751
>>1173746Maybe you're right. The entire ONTD community were immediately recruited by Flying Monkey Ltd on the day she dropped her claim.
So far neither side has provided any concrete evidence supporting anything. Believing either camp at this point only betrays your own prejudice
No. 1173760
>>1173746Nice try Annie, but you know damn well you already deleted all those accounts.
I must admit…you are good. But, the truth will def see the light.
("hi cow") No. 1173761
>>1173757I'm well aware how long validation of claims take which is irrelevant. Annie has said something is coming this week.
Let's not change the goalposts now.
She has less than 1 week to deliver her promised update.
No. 1173767
>>1173752Yeah, hours of phone convos and texts are definitely not a proof. Not at all.
>>1173760I'm not Annie and mods can confirm that lmao. PSA : not everyone you disagree with is MM or Annie.
>>1173748Actually, they were several users who corroborated they "remembered her" and stories but absolutely no fucking evidence whatsoever of said stories.
No. 1173776
>>1173767If you think what she's shared is proof I imagine you must also beleive Demi Dahmer after he shared his evidence.
God help those who have someone as stupid as you sit in their jury
No. 1173784
>>1173776Give me a fucking break. That person photoshopped shit to make it look like he got a message from Evan. Annie has hours of recordings that just because she shared 10 minutes of it instead of the whole 20+ hours with your precious special self doesn’t mean she’s lying about it. There was that one video she posted where she clicks at random time stamps of a 7 hour long recording where you can clearly hear them having conversations. She provided a video of her clicking on her DMs and you see mansons official account messaging her. The screenshots and photos of the messages could be faked, sure, but I don’t see why when everything else checked out.
Like why would Manson talk to someone about epilepsy and telling them why they shouldn’t post about it? And who spends that much time talking to anyone if they don’t know them on a personal basis. Give me a break. Your bias reeks.
No. 1173787
>>1173776>God help those who have someone as stupid as you sit in their juryYep, right back at you anon. Name calling = not helping your point.
>>1173780>Look at me the idiot who reserves judgement until adequate evidence is presented.Yeah, sorry for you that the
victim are not posting pictures of their assault or evidence of ongoing investigation on their insta or lolcow to entertain you anon. Do you want to leave your email address for them to send it directly there perhaps? Because your reserved judgement is awaited with great impatience. Seriously gtfo.
No. 1173790
>>1173784Uh huh.
It's one thing to lean towards beleive her, no one can fault that. But thinking what she has posted (without any independent analysis being performed) is naive.
Sadly people can and do fake much more elaborate stories with corresponding 'evidence'.
Side with
victims but be objective and patient.
No. 1173794
>>1173787Maybe some have but I'm not asking her to post proof in a public forum. She should submit it to legal investigators where independent research can take place.
Reserving judgement on any party until an investigation has concluded is not an indication of
victim blaming not should it ever be distorted as such.
I'm with her all the way if her claims check out. I'm not convinced by any side at this early stage of the accusations.
No. 1173830
>>1173812This is peak stupid. If she has no evidence he raped her, that doesn’t mean it isn’t true and that she’s being a criminal for reporting it. If he deleted a bunch of her stuff before she started recording, she’s screwed in terms of proving it but not in terms of whether it’s true or not.
If the investigation relies heavily on her recordings, he could be charged with something else he said on those since the recordings were done in Canada where it’s legal to record someone. It’s why I believe she might play a key part in this. It’s not different from Esme except in Esme’s case, she’s outside of statute. In Annie’s case she may be shit outta luck proving she was raped but maybe she has something else on him that’s criminal to add to the human trafficking and sex with minor charges.
It doesn’t mean Annie is lying about the rape if she doesn’t charge him with that because it would be hard to prove. Those convos are way too intimate. No one cares that much about this “random” woman posting about her epilepsy if they didn’t have a history. No one. You’d have to be completely incapable of reading or understanding social interactions to believe that.
No. 1173837
>>1173830You haven't understood.
Filing a police report which doesn't lead to conviction is not a crime.
Filing a false report is a crime.
This is the only reason Annie refuses to make any formal report about her rape allegation.
I would love to be proven wrong but I never will be.
No. 1173839
>>1173812I agree. Annie will only continue to post her lies and photoshopped messages.
She will come up with some sort of excuse such as her family has been threatened or she feels like she is in danger and say she will no longer talk about it. She may even delete her whole profile and go on using yet another fake name.
I am hoping someone who personally knows her spills it all here soon, but being that she threatened her two ex friends today by basically saying, if they expose her, she will report them for various crimes, I don't know what to think.
Annie has 0 proof of anything because it is literally all fabricated. Every drop of it.
No. 1173841
>>1173837> I would love to be proven wrong but I never will be.Why? Answer why. Because a rape
victim who reports it months or years later with no evidence isn’t any less of a rape
victim. She has firm evidence she knew him and was close to him. See all epilepsy related points made above.
No. 1173844
>>1173841Because I am disgusted by rapists. To treat this subject like a joke or an excuse to play
victim is so abhorrent.
Go to the goddamn Police.
If it's 1 day or 10 years later go to the goddamn police if for no other reason than to officially document it. Have it on their file age radar.
If she's telling the truth I want her to play her small peice in putting an alleged sexual predator into court. But she won't and it's beyond disgusting.
No. 1173851
>>1173845Disgusting troll. Were to prove a negative now?
File the police report annie. Tell the police the things you allege marilyn manson did to your against your consent. Your rape. Do it for the others who may otherwise be
victims.
No. 1173853
>>1173848Exactly my point. She is receiving abuse and threats already (if you can believe anything she says). Go to the police and make that report.
No more excuses.
Go today. Make that report.
Anyone who believes manson is innocent would beg her to make the report.
No. 1173855
>>1173853samefag. Type.
Nobody who thinks manson is innocent would want a
victim to make a police report.
No. 1173857
>>1173853She came out four weeks ago. Most of the other
victims have had years to coordinate and plan this out. Esme filed charges for human trafficking which she undoubtedly worked on for months or even years to put together and there has been no update on it. These things take time. PA would’ve hooked her up with a lawyer in the last week at the very earliest because this isn’t done overnight. You need help, dude.
No. 1173860
>>1173858No proof she’s lying at all. Just poor quality screenshots of an alleged social media account vs a
victim with proof they had a bond that wasn’t surface level. Don’t get your knickers in a twist.
No. 1173886
>>1173860No proof she's telling the truth
FFS can't you fucking whiney babies just wait for the police investigation to run its course. There will be enough milk for everyone. Stop giving attention to trolls and every retard who makes a ridiculous claim on instagram
No. 1173887
>>1173842There are anonymous friends. Whether they are the people she claims them to be (those monsters lol) … i highly doubt it. But, where do you think these screenshots of her delusional relationships are coming from. A friend who took them months ago out of concern, and when they brought them up they were met with her crazy antics per usual and just had to let her go. (Along with her own family members) And yes I have a source and they will come out when they want to. I can't force them.
I do agree with you though my friend. She is pathological and dangerous. To herself and others clearly.
And fuck off asking for proof anons. (Annie) She deleted that shit the very moment we and other forums started talking about it. It is all gone. All we have now are screenshots. I said she was pathological, not stupid.
Stop being so gullible. I am losing hope in humanity here.
No. 1173902
>>1173857Uh…what do you think the Phoenix Act is exactly? It’s not a group of lawyers sitting around waiting to prosecute Marilyn Manson. It’s a group of organizers trying to get a bill passed in the other 49 states similar to the one passed in California extending the statute of limitations for rape
victims. They’re not setting anyone up with lawyers.
No. 1173909
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>>1173902^^^ this person is literally marilyn manson
<<< this is a photo from the last Phoenix Act conference. They are currently the largest employer of lawyers in the US just waiting to take you down Mr Marilyn Manson!
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1173925
>>1173887And risk going to jail for decades over earning money for fake IDs and illegal aliens? Let’s for a moment say Annie faked all this stuff (she hasn’t) and let’s say she’s behind the photoshops (please…) she’d still probably get a reward from the feds for exposing an illegal alien or someone committing serious fraud on a federal level that wouldn’t just jail them, but it would confine them to that country for the rest of their life when they’re old sods coming freshly out of jail.
I bloody Dm-d her and asked her why she wouldn’t report them now and she said because she still loves someone in that group and wishes she could be heard by them because her ex is white knighting her. Supposed ex was broken up with because he gaslit, lied and manipulated her. Sounds odd? Not at all, sounds more like a minimum of two dodgy people with a history in illegal actions running the show pretty convincingly who seem a bit miffed they’ve got dropped by their sugar mama. She had mentioned that she has it recorded because the fella in question starting bragging about it while she was on his balcony taking a video of raccoons outside his house and someone he crossed can confirm he does those things on the side.
Look, if my family got threatened in any way and I found they were put at risk by people I used to be friends with a long time ago? You bloody well believe I’d report them or give them a stern hint first pronto.
This “pathological” narrative with no proof whatsoever other than some easy to fake screenshots is getting tiring. You take your biased agenda elsewhere and time to change those knickers! How pervasively dull is your life, my god!
(cowtipping) No. 1173959
>>1173945Yeah yeah we get it, you believe screenshots that even an old hag like myself could make in 3 minutes tops over a woman with hours of recordings, proven messages from his official Instagram and who’s backed by PA. All this in defence of a man who’s notorious for blackmailing his
victims and his smear campaigns as corroborated by other
victims. Go back to the Manson defenders group sycophant.
Unless you’re a grudge holding ex friend of Annie’s and IN that case get a life and maybe a real job. Quit
victim shaming and
victim blaming someone who just barely got out two months ago. You’re the real psychopaths.
(stop) No. 1174150
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Since we're low on milk right now—I thought this was interesting. Anons were tinfoiling that that account belonged to Manson/Lindsay or someone involved with them a few threads ago.
No. 1174170
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>>1174150I mean, unless they post proof of that they could just be fucking around.
MIB is doing a q&a right now.
No. 1174348
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I wonder what this one could be with so many posts?? And only 2 followers/followings. Interesting.
No. 1174450
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Another one. wtf
Or maybe they just changed the name
No. 1174456
>>1174450"Another one. wtf" kek
Another one with exact the same number of postings and followers, right, idiot.
No. 1174475
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Changed it again
No. 1174476
>>1174450>>1174348Couldn't find any of these. You, anon, must stop posting about her.
>>1174402You should stop cowtipping
And
Annie should stop lurking, idiot.Alice Cooper supported(?) Manson:
>Alice Cooper on Marilyn Manson abuse claims: “I never noticed that streak in him”>“It’s funny about Marilyn, in that I know Marilyn – when we toured together we got along very well. I never noticed that streak in him, if it’s there. I always believe in the word, allegations are still allegations,” Cooper said in the latest instalment of our In Conversation series.>Focusing on Manson once more, Cooper added: “Now I don’t know Marilyn, though, as well as I know Johnny. So what happens in the bedroom is entirely a mystery to me for what’s going on with Marilyn.”https://www.nme.com/news/music/alice-cooper-on-marilyn-manson-abuse-claims-i-never-noticed-that-streak-in-him-2892151Do you believe he never noticed anything? Some of them do think ppl are dumb.
(imageboard) No. 1174478
>>1174475I am officially convinced that bitch regularly visits the thread and posts about herself.
And this is why we don't need this thread to exist.
She's changing names in a few minutes once it was posted here.
No. 1174482
>>1174479It's hard to prove she's not lurking since she admitted to having done it previously. I don't believe you.
Hopefully, you will be permanently banned for continuous cowtipping.
No. 1174516
>>1174476Fuck Alice Cooper. Imagine saying something as dumb as “I don’t really know him well” but then thinking you can also comment intelligently on someone’s behavior behind closed doors? Yeah let’s ignore all the people who actually know MM saying he’s
abusive and print headlines about the dude who barely knows him giving his opinion.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1175167
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On Insta Mansonisabuse they look closely at the Seraphim Ward case, which I think is still interesting, because it shows how perfectly the smear campaign machine of the Manson camp works. They also posted recordings of Manson threatening and bullying someone, because of this. Nobody believed Seraphim Ward and the media let her down when she tried to share her view of the story. It's a shame!
No. 1175176
>>1175167This thing again shows Mansons pattern of revenge and violence. Seraphim was the fiancé of Madonna Wayne Gacy, Mansons Ex-Keyboarder, who sued him because of band money which was used by Manson privately. Here you can see, how much Manson must have hated him for that. So obviously Manson must have been obsessed with revenge and back then it was an easy game for him.
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/marilyn-manson-i-would-not-piss-on-pogo-if-he-was-on-fire/ Quote:
"And I would not piss on Pogo if he was on fire. Thee end. Or is it? Let's wait until all the really bad things I covered up for him are suddenly uncovered. I got a far more severe type of karma for traitors and people that owe me, legally a lot more than what I wasted tolerating your rape of a band you never deserved to be in."
In a separate posting on the same blog, Manson continued, "I don't want this to be confused as anger. I feel nothing for a person that betrayed me and my band. My band. And I'm sure that if anyone wants to discuss this with him personally, I won't be so rude to NOT give you his or his family's addresses. Since I payed [sic] for both soon to be destroyed buildings. That's at least what I just had a dream of, that I awoke from. So good luck to you, sir. You are gonna need it. Sweet dreams."
This statement clearly contains threats! It is disgusting and should have been called out long ago.
(imageboard) No. 1175286
>>1175176"I don't want this to be confused as anger."
Kek. Like it is not obvious from just couple of rows above that he is furious and has a anger management skills of a 14 year old.
No. 1175316
>>1175308I somewhere read that Jonathan Jaxson was put under pressure by Manson to confirm to media that the engagement statement came from Seraphim Ward. So Jaxson was used and Ward did not have a chance to be heard.
Music and celeb journalists should really do some research on the whole shitty puzzle of manipulation, since there are people who have been literally destroyed when they were doing just fine before they ended up in Manson's hate game.
No. 1175343
>>1175167why would he get so bent out of shape over if this woman did say she was his fiancé? Yet he’s never went after that one woman Madelyn who looks like a fish that goes around saying she’s been in a relationship with him for years.
I could imagine if he gets this angry over something said that’s so stupid , he must be going really insane, fuming about @Mansonisabusive. LOL She should be on the look out… any day the FBI could be raiding her.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1175364
>>1175343I think it’s thats because despite her being batshit insane he did at least fuck Madelyn a few times so probably can’t do that much in the way of saying she’s lying. Also isn’t Seraphim a light-skinned
POC? His racist ass probably didn’t want people attaching him to anyone who isn’t super white.
No. 1175369
>>1175343Don't you read? Revenge for what his ex-keyboarder did, Pogo and Seraphim Ward were having a good life, until the weird Manson engagement story came up.
@Mansonisabusive should be afraid the FBI could be raiding her? Because "she" is pissing off Manson? WTF
No. 1175481
>>1174652 annir needs to stfu, her public traumafest is making an absolute idiot of her and casting doubt on the other
victims. If she's legit she'll lay low and just do what she has to do legally. She tried to tell everyone this is her very special way of dealing with trauma, but jfc girl get some self respect and a good therapist, absolutely no one needs to bleed for the entire world to see and scrutinize.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1175484
Manson did no favors by marrying Linds, he seems to marry women as
abusive as he is and she doesn't have the finesse ti hide her bitchy
abusive tendencies like dita did
https://celebrityinsider.org/amp/is-marilyn-manson-being-framed-because-hes-married-to-lindsay-usich-new-fan-theory-gains-traction-474526/(imageboard) No. 1175501
>>1175400It’s a good thing she lives in another country then…. I doubt he knows any
shady law authorities there. Shady cops who say personal things, making up bullshit lies about people. But that’s what good lawyers are for.
No. 1175607
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Anyone recognize this church? The one Adam said he was going to for “vampire activities”(derailing)
No. 1175787
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Annie addressed that photo of Evan with the Nazi knife and proof it came from his number.
No. 1175801
>>1175787So, to clarify: the image of Evan with the knife is a screencap of a video taken by the Manson camp, or a photo taken at the time the video was filmed? Either way, Brian bragged about using it for blackmail.
If I'm not wrong, the full uncropped image first appeared online via Leechy Lane's IG. How did Leechy get hold of this photo? Was it originally hers, or is Leechy leaking images at Brian and Lindsay's orders?
No. 1175803
>>1175801Hmm on the LL subject this confirms to me that she’s working with Manson on smearing the
victims. Annie mentioned in that post that they tried to make it look like she posted it herself. I now doubt LL had anything to do with taking that photo. She’s probably just a helping hand in the spreading of the smearing lmao
No. 1175808
>>1175802>>1175803Yes, just trying to work out whether Leechy was likely the original photographer, or if it was supplied to her within the last few months to leak online.
Evan only had black hair while filming and /or promoting the Wrestler, which was circa 2008. Leechy claims to have only been around during the first year of the relationship in 2007. Will need to check dates, but it appears likely that Leechy is working with Brian by releasing photos on his command.
No. 1175821
>>1175819Yes I have? She said it was her ex friends. She found out one or two have been feeding the Manson supporting groups and pages. Which confirmed her suspicion that they’re collaborating with Manson like Manson apparently claimed he did. If those friends committed those felonies she mentioned, it’s far FAR worse punishment than rape. Illegal reproduction of government IDs and documents is fraud of the highest order. And an illegal immigrant working under the table with a supposed criminal history according to some dm is even more punishable, especially if real citizens are involved. It makes sense that when she found out they’ve been feeding the Manson supporters and anti-
victims pages that she put her foot down. I’d have reported their asses by now.
No. 1175823
File: 1614842198209.jpg (Spoiler Image,79.11 KB, 1242x883, 154469829_704575273548224_2903…)
>>1175607it's from the LA immersive theatre “The Assassination of Edgar Allan Poe, an Immersive Theater Experience at Heritage Square Museum”. LOL at "vampire activities"
(derailing) No. 1175830
>>1175824Pretty sure she meant her ex friends have been actively feeding those
victim shaming Manson supporting pages?
Whatever we’re not supposed to discuss that. Milk she posted yes. Her friends and messy personal life no. Stick to Manson?
No. 1175850
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No. 1175851
>>1175845No just repeating back what she said. But someone in a comments here that a friend of hers has been feeding them with info. When she found out she dropped the crime bomb and threatened to report them. Which she should imho cause feeding those pages that smear and harass
victims makes you a worthless pathetic POS who’s a waste of space on this planet. Mansonites doing it I get cause they’re POS in gen but someone who isn’t one who reached out to those pages? Lmao a whole lot of dumb on another level. Wonder how much Brian pays.
No. 1175863
>>1175826>>1175850Can you give context cause wtf.
I don’t understand, she (whoever this is) is planning revenge on Courtlyn Cannan but she’s also friends with Courtlyn who’s helping with revenge while dating Manson?
This is a dm to the child’s father?
>He crank called and it got cps involved.That’s somehow connected to Manson?
I’ve seen your posts about cps before in precious threads but there’s too much missing info to follow.
No. 1175878
>>1175826Ffs you silly, use names:
>One of mansons friends (let's call her Jane) got on Manson's bad side and Manson stalked Jane and her roommate. Manson crank called and it got cps involved. Now Jane's kid is gone and gone for good next week. Jane has been posting on social media about it but for friends only.Still have no idea how
>>1175850 relates.
(integrate better) No. 1175891
File: 1614852385762.jpg (323.04 KB, 1080x1834, Screenshot_20210304-110506.jpg)
Mansonhashumanrightstoo is really reaching with this one kek
No. 1175892
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No. 1175893
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Some detectives over there have dome suspicions about this story kek
No. 1175924
>>1175816Nope. Sorry there’s no loopholes. And him and his whore wife will be responsible.
At least Brian definitely will. Mark my words.
(Dawn) No. 1175937
>>1175893kek kek kek kek kek kek
kek kek kek kek kek kek
kek kek kek kek kek kek
No. 1175980
>>1175863Lmao, you guys are so gullible falling for whatever this shit is with some kid and cps. This is some fake dm
>>1175850. It looks like it’s sent from a computer. You cannot get DM messages on the computer. Only thru the Instagram app.
(Dawn) No. 1175982
>>1175980 correct, idiot. It was sent through Instagram app and accessed on bluestacks to Aussie’s sons dad who is a verified
abusive asshole who abused her and her son right after the message was sent.
No. 1175987
>>1175982Ok I’m an idiot because I don’t know what bluestacks is.
what the hell does this have to do with anything about Manson?
(Dawn) No. 1175998
>>1175850First of all, this all sounds so far-fetched. Manson tries to date
children ~ not women that have children. Unless he’s with this woman to human traffic her child.
(Dawn) No. 1175999
>>1175982>>1175969>>1175850>>1175826Riiight, I think I understand this. So you're saying some Aussie shiela's child is dating Manson and planning revenge on you (the Aussie's sons dad), Courtlyn Cannan and her, that is the child is planning her own downfall. Plus the child is friend's with Courtlyn Cannan, who is also part of this revenge scheme to bring down Courtlyn Cannan. Courtlyn Cannan is real. Marilyn Manson is not. Now, you Aussie's sons dad are real. But your life is Manson's. Now the CPS, which is real, took the child to places that, while they are real, they are not real in sense that they did not
really happen to the
real child, which is you.
Seriously, who the fuck are these people and why should anyone care?
No. 1176007
>>1175980>DMs only thru phoneNot true. Since update (dunno when) you can see IG DMs on computer.
I’m with you on the rest though. Wtf is this shit? Quit the cloak and dagger, anons, if you have milk then deliver it…with names.
No. 1176024
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Has it ever been mentioned that Courtlyn Cannan did a video shoot with Manson and called it "sick as fuck". Surprise, the footage was never published.
I found this screenshot on Twitter, her account is deleted though. Sounds like she experienced some stuff similar to Esmé but would never talk about it since he could easily destroy her bit of a career.
No. 1176039
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>>1176031Probably, but the context is blurry. Some Twitter account telling stuff about her. It just gives an idea that doing sick videos which never are released is something quite a number of women have experienced who still seem to be afraid to come forward.
No. 1176122
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>>1176036Just to be clear this is the Aussie who claims to be stalked by Manson and lost custody of her son?
>LOL Aussie. In an article, he talked about rescuing a woman from some guy and Aussie was upset because he refered to her as an escort but she’s really a “model”. There were DMs posted about it. Courtlyn is friends with Aussie. He’s cheated on Lindsay a lot. >>957915
>He pumped and dumped Courtlyn in 2014. He was with Aussie at the same time. And Madelyn was in that 2014 mess. Courtlyn and Aussie ended up becoming friends and did a photoshoot together and posted the photos on insta. Courtlyn leaked photos with him from some video they shot but he never released. >>962163 No. 1176127
>>1176122On her instagram are photos of her and her son though.
Where did you get the info of Manson stalking and Aussie loosing custody?
No. 1176153
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>>1176122This makes more sense now. He liked that pic in 2019. That’s the profile pic he had then.
on his FB he posted a lot about some woman and the CPS in 2019-2020. He was obviously just in these threads and just made a post about the CPS.
(Dawn) No. 1176168
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He liked a pic of her that was posted in 2014, but liked the pic in 2019. That’s the new profile pic he had in 2019.
>>1176122(Dawn) No. 1176182
>>1176168Or the screenshot was taken in 2019 which would show his current profile pic. OP never said when he liked the pic.
>>1176153>>1176171Why is Dawn in the mix.
No. 1176197
>>1176162I am with you anon.
Dawn is back
>>1176153 No. 1176332
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ERW just shared this story which Annie shared just a day or 2 earlier herself.
Posting as evidence of how involved Annie is with the other victims for those who have tried to dispute it.
Unfortunately Annies original story has expired and wasn't saved so I can't show them both together in the screenshot but those of us following her will remember it.
No. 1176354
>>1176349That makes no sense at all.
Why only show support for someone through cryptic messages? It's like she wants to be supportive but if things fall through with Annies story ERW can pretend she never sorted her to begin with which the large majority of people who aren't obsessively following it like us would lap up.
No. 1176356
>>1176354Never supported her*
samefag
(newfaggotry) No. 1176427
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From Evan's IG. So this is confirmation that an FBI investigation has been opened. Not sure what to make of the rest of the letter, what is the connection to Connecticut?
No. 1176440
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>>1176427I suppose the connection is that Kasser works on a law to protect women in DV situation. So from the letter, it looks like she reached out to the FBI lead investigator in MM case to ensure he takes into account the reality of domestic violence and the forms in can take so as to not undermine the
victims' statements while investigation is conducted, since the law she works on is not adopted yet? It seems like it would make a push to recognize coercive control (which reads verbatim like what MM was doing). The only connection to CT is that Kasser is a senator for CT?
No. 1176457
>>1176440
>I suppose the connection is that Kasser works on a law to protect women in DV situation.Yes, I thought there might've been a new
victim from that state, but it appears to just be related to the Senator's law.
It's also timely that the letter refers to efforts to discredit
victims now that the smear campaign has ramped up on Annie and Evan in particular.
No. 1176464
>>1176457Please stop with this "smear" nonsense. People creating instagram profiles (or comments here) who are trying to put peices of the jigsaw together is not a smear. They may be incorrect and they be be led by their own biases but it is completely ridiculous to suggest it's part of a massive conspiracy.
Law enforcement rely on facts and evidence. They are not trawling social media and basing their findings on what some random bimbo has to say about dubious facebook screenshots. Mentioning a abase campaign just makes you look tinfoil and loses any credibility you may have.
No. 1176534
>>1176464What exactly do you think a smear campaign is? It has nothing to do with law enforcement, it's played in the public arena where social media happens to be pretty important.
I'm not talking about this thread, I'm talking about the multiple articles and hundreds of tweets over the last few days calling Evan a racist because Vanessa Bryant just happened to coincidentally be made aware of Evan's tweet from over a year ago, I'm talking about the hundreds of comments on @westworldhbo calling for Evan to be fired, the deliberate release of photos by Leslee Lane etc.
Just because the effort does not change the legal outcome or get Evan fired doesn't mean it's not a concerted effort to damage her reputation and create doubt about her credibility. Annie is on a smaller scale because she is only known to those following closely, but there are plenty of people who otherwise wouldn't care about this case, who will now doubt Evan (the public face of the accusations) forever because of what they have read.
No. 1176569
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>>1176427here's the original/higher resolution.
No. 1176612
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Thought the first point qualifies to post here. I figured leslee had nothing and was just a little pawn tbqh
No. 1176627
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Evan’s story today reminds me of a story Annie shared a while back lmao(ignoring admin post)
No. 1176631
>>1176612Interesting. Why would LL plaster huge copyright watermarks if they aren't even her photos. Its a bold statement by Annie she's putting her reputation on the line for which is good to see.
>>1176627Injustice is still consequence. Society ought to expect and strive for more than consequence for the sake of it. This of course applies to all matters not just the MM accusations.
No. 1176636
>>1176631>Why would LL plaster huge copyright watermarks if they aren't even her photos.I think Annie is specifically talking about the knife photo.
>>1175787 The rest of the photos with LL watermark were taken by her.
No. 1176648
>>1176586Yes, a lot of people attacking Evan do so because they don't like that MM was dropped from business relationships based on her and others' accusations. But that does not make what they're doing any less of a smear campaign because regardless of the motivation, the goal is still to discredit her. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the terminology.
And I disagree that it is ironic. Dressing up as a nazi, being involved in a bondage photoshoot, laughing at rape jokes and calling someone a rapist are not crimes, particularly because that someone is dead.
The difference is that Evan and the others' accusations against Brian relate to actual crimes and they have in the past and are currently taking a legal approach. It is also playing out in social media, but that is not the only means of their accusations.
If Brian wants to follow due process and sue Evan for defamation then he is more than welcome, but he won't and it doesn't take a genius to work out why.
No. 1176719
File: 1614941153253.jpg (266.22 KB, 1440x1762, 06521.jpg)
Some lynchings labelled as #MiscarriagesOfJustice are really just #accountability
I would have thought we'd have moved on from the mob mentality which Emmett Till experienced but it appears its only the method of communication which has adapted.
The accusations are of course of heinous crimes and the require a full, thorough investigation and justice within the arm of the law. But to play the devil's avocado, the most wickedly deceptive of fruits, what if the allegations against BHW are unable to be substantiated on investigation? What if they were actually false or embellished? He has suffered the consequences that once were administered after guilt had been determined.
Now he's not the most well liked person and hasn't helped himself against (hypothetical) false accusations with his past rhetoric, but the principles of a right to innocence ought to be the given right to anyone.
Let's listen to victims. Let's not dismiss them as has often (and still is) occurring. Give them the benefit of the doubt by allowing the allegations to be heard before a court of law and independent, fair investigation. But lets not ever go so far as to treat allegation as fact before any meaningful review. It may be creepy BHW this time but next time it won't be.
/end sperg
No. 1176727
>>1176719
>…what if the allegations against BHW are unable to be substantiated on investigation? What if they were actually false or embellished? He has suffered the consequences that once were administered after guilt had been determined. Firstly, there is a difference between factual guilt and legal guilt, and no, he has not suffered the consequences of legal guilt because he is not locked up in a prison cell right now.
If Brian cannot be charged or if he is charged but found innocent in a court of law, then his manager and record company can choose to welcome him back with open arms. His tv episodes and music can be re-released and/or made available by the various platforms, and people can freely enjoy his shit and he can get paid for it. Brian can also choose to sue anyone he believes defamed him or breached contacts and seek damages.
Also, all of the above can happen right now, nothing is stopping it. He has suffered the consequences of other people's choices. Socially pressured choices, yes probably, but still choices.
/end sperg
No. 1176742
>>1176719Actually, it will not be the legal consequences that make me think twice before I enjoy one of his songs again. I already had enough listening to his phone recordings putting people under pressure (this shitty narcissistic "This is Manson speaking" like he is God). The abuse cases just shed a light on his character, and actually I believe in art being an expressions of the artists soul. That's probably what a lot of his fans are sad about right now and have to cope with: finding out that he is not a smart critic of the bigotry of society, but that a lot of his songs about violence are just coming from a small, average, banal, chauvinist world of Misogynie and revenge thoughts.
So the whole thing is much more complex than going to court, dealing it out and then it's over.
Look at the Weinstein case, it might have been possible that they would not have been able to charge him, since a lot of the incidents were way in the past. However, him being a chauvinist asshole trying to manipulate and blackmail people was clear. So even if there would not have been charges, why would I ever want to watch a movie produced by someone like him? There is so much more beautiful stuff out there coming from people who work hard to make great art. So why not give my attention and money to them?
Funny thing, the ones who shout "Cancel culture" on one occasion shout "Let the market decide" on another occasion, when it suits them.
So, yes, also when it comes to Misogynie the market decides, but in a different way than a years and decades ago.
Sorry, end of speech.
No. 1176765
>>1176719So, you're comparing a 14 year old black boy from the 50s to a grown-ass white male celebrity in 2021 who collects Nazi memorabilia, has always been known as a creep with misogynistic fetishes that he detailed in his own autobiography, for abusing his sexual partners, for hating black people, etc? This really made sense in your own mind?
Why are MM stans so brain dead? Were you dropped on your head?
No. 1176786
>>1176776Neither, I'm just shocked by the low IQ takes in this thread, definitely from boomers who probably call this place "snow", too. Also
*some
No. 1176867
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For posterity
No. 1176925
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Annie clarified it’s the knife pic she’s talking about and added some interesting comments. He’s so gross
No. 1176958
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>>1176925Annie has already clarified that she will post any new milk on her blog, slaybrams.com.
The latest post on her blog explains all your need to know about that ERW and Nazi knife photo, the “leaking” of it, and includes the uncensored text from Manson.
Sage because Annie talk but this is new milk that has not already been posted. Acknowledging farmhands post above that non-milk Annie spergs can catch a perma ban.
No. 1176989
>>1176958"you coerced her"
Reminds me of the letter of Senator Alex Kasser pointing out the problem of "Coercive Control"
So, there we are, the picture and the message is great proof.
No. 1177048
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>>1176925I mean, LL even said she felt used.
She seems too obsessed to care though.
>>1177035Reminds me of Ashley Morgan’s account of M having her (who’s Jewish) buy nazi memorabilia from Asia for him.
No. 1177211
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>>1165311BRAVO!!
1.) Manson doesn't say "darling" EVER.
2.) Suspenders were grotesque era, not EMDM or HEOL era.
3.) Nice save on the broken bottle '''er, oops he had more stash under his chair.
4.) "rock'n'roll catharsis" Nice broken english
5.) Manson doesn't take his memorial antique collectables on the road with him.
No. 1177221
>>1176182Anons were trying to figure out about who this anon was that kept posting here about a woman, CPS,
and her kid . Apparently it’s another woman that’s been involved with Manson as of recent since 2019, I guess.
>>1175850 No. 1177238
>>1177211You talk as if you know him personally?
>>1177221What do you mean, OP said their name is Aussie. How many Aussie’s is he dating?
>>1175969>>1176036 No. 1177619
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I know everyone's probably tired of hearing about this account, but they posted this earlier. I did a reverse image search and looked on Lindsay's old LiveJournal/Tumblr and I couldn't find a source. It has to be recent because that's one of their new cats. Major tinfoil, but is there a possibility that they actually could be one of them or someone that's in contact with them? I just don't understand how they get those pictures when there's literally no trace of them anywhere else.
No. 1178592
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Annie's IG(ban evasion)
No. 1178802
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Were at like nod number 7. I follow all victims and I’ve never seen Evan give this many to someone. I know this is spec but I think she’s being protected in some ways. Idk does this make sense?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1179772
>>1179644Presumably Aussie
>>1176122 made suicide threats in previous threads pertaining to cps and her son.
>>1179708>With no proof. Wiki and several articles claim there was DNA evidence of the assault. The accuser claimed she dropped the criminal case due to death threats and her identity being exposed. Bryant settled for 2.5 million in civil court. All this can be found googling.
>>1179749Annie said something’s apparently happening Wednesday.
>>1176612 No. 1179928
>>1179874You're being very disingenuous if you think those who question Annie are those who would not beleive rape
victims anyway.
I'm very hesitant to take Annie at her word due to numerous questionable factors surrounding her. I don't share these particular suspicions with the other woman who have come forward.
In saying that my suspicions are my own and I'm not out there making instagram profiles attacking her or messaging her abuse.
No. 1180807
>>1180280I just look forward to when justice is served and he gets what deserves.
>>1180331I know that’s what confuses me. I’m just so grateful to Evan naming him because it’s gonna help me in so many ways. Especially her outing Leslee. It may help me prove something.
No. 1180939
>>1180818The way it usually works is whichever area has the strictest recording policy takes precedent. California is a two party consent state. Assuming he was in California when he was recorded and since he was the one being recorded and not doing the recording, it would fall under California law. To be safe you always follow which area has the strictest policy.
I do believe there are ways to get around this if you believe you are obtaining recordings to prove a crime was committed. I think a good rule of thumb for this would’ve been to not post these on social media.
No. 1181222
>>1181204I’m tired of waiting too but how she worded it
>>1176612 I think it’s an interview or article which she probably has little control over. She already said she’s not going to share all her evidence with the public.
No. 1181255
>>1181247She has an exceptionally long online history of creating false identities and making ridiculous accusations, and that's not even including these recent fb caps.
That's not to say the MM allegations are neccesarily false but it does mean she has a reputation issue she has caused for herself which she has the burden of earning people's trust on.
The idea she is the lynchpin which is why Manson and the mythical flying monkeys have spent months writing tremendous amounts of Facebook fan fiction which would hold no value for dismissing any legal proceedings is even more laughable when you realize that this hasn't happened to a single other accuser.
No. 1181266
>>1181253She provided audio and unreleased photos, her claims aren’t totally baseless. The media did cover the Lana Del Rey story. It makes zero sense for her to be working for him when she’s accused him horrendous things.
>>1181255>creating false identities and making ridiculous accusationsShe explained the name changes. The majority of the “false identities and ridiculous accusations” were created by Manson stans.
I’m not saying I believe very word she wrote but it’s too murky from both sides to know the truth.
No. 1181274
>>1181266She's released some small snippets which I true
>She explained the name changes. The majority of the “false identities and ridiculous accusations” were created by Manson stans. I won't get into this but it sounds like you're not familiar with her previous accounts. These are her confirmed accounts. There's also been 0 evidence manson stans have been behind some of the newer material. It could be true but again no evidence.
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I just heard about this site and spent the last three hours reading almost every thread. And I do have a favorite character in this series.
But…
I just discovered Madelyn groupie hoe 2.0.
>>1154757 And I just can’t…! I can’t stop laughing!!
(Dawn) No. 1181370
>>1181368SHE STILL HAS 5 HOURS! Stop trying to undermine her. The flying monkey queen wouldn't let us down this time. Her entire credibility rests on her long promised proof coming to light. Yes yes she's made promises befire which she didn't follow through on but there was super secret reasons why! This time is for real. You'll see in less than 5 hours!
The manson stans are absolutely terrified of what is coming very shortly! You'll all see!
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What if Annies big reveal was an exclusive one-on-one with Oprah
No. 1181383
>>1181379I may have been able to buy her excuse that Manson pulled this one article, but she can't explain how not a single news organisation has been unwilling to report of a single allegation of hers except the stupid LDR quip.
Media doesn't even need proof from
victims to create headlines about reported abuse. Unless there was evidence to indicate an accuser may be lying, tabloids are going to run whatever they can to get those clicks. We've been putting all our hopes into a narcissist nobody
No. 1181387
>>1181379Let me get this right. She claims she was raped by MM and she has hard evidence of this and other crimes. Evidence which will put him in jail. But because this apparent news article didn't get published this morning so she can show all her anonymous online supporters she considers just giving up?
What a cunt
No. 1181390
>>1181379Annie really gives way too much of a shit about the opinions of a few nobodies on the internet, and she shows it. I guess it's because they're the manifestation of the abuse/threats she endured from Brian, regardless of whether or not these people actually working for him. Her trauma is still deeply rooted in her experience with Brian and that's why she takes this so personally. I hope she can work through that.
Most reasonable people don't buy the whole multiple identity, scam artist narrative trying to be pushed by others, but anyway, here it comes…
No. 1181391
>>1181387She didn’t say she was giving up. If her abuse is as fresh as she claims, she’d be new to all this and would have to start from scratch. If the other
victims took over a year to come out with just stories and one or two photos and Annie came out with recordings, texts and emails in the span of a month? Give me a break. Shit does happen. “Ok Annie” me all you want, it does. What she wrote was
valid.
By the way, huffington post just annihilated 30% of their journalists in the US and closed down huffington post in Canada entirely in the last 48 hours. It’s reasonable to assume that’s who she was speaking to.
No. 1181392
>>1181384It's an open secret AA has been sickpuppeting posts in these threads
>>1181387What do you expect? This is a woman who claims she was raped and than goes on to help him write a press statement to distance himself from ERWs allegations. She doesn't give a fuck about anyone else but herself. This is The Annie Show and we're all stars now.
No. 1181395
>>1181388I'm with you. Its not midnight yet mansonstans. She still has over 4 hours for her promised proof
Didn't ya mommas ever tell y'all not to count your chickens before they hatch
No. 1181407
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>>1181397Annie posted on her profile she helped Manson with a statement supporting him against the abuse crimes. She since deleted it (why?) but she's left this up which references it. Go and check for yourself before she deletes this too
(ban evasion) No. 1181416
>>1181407>>1181404samefagging but as someone is trying real hard to cover it up the direct link to her post which remains is
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLX3Lsjh8KJ/A backup url is
https://smihub.com/c/7565345953108170152(ban evasion) No. 1181418
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Hey flying monkeys, the boss just messaged me. He likes how we're going. He'll PayPal us our rewards shortly(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1181442
>>1181435That just looks worse for both of them. She is so
toxic at this point.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1181450
>>1181435Yeah these people posting on a gossip site angry at a woman who has lied about being raped by a man and damaging the reputation of
victims worldwide are far worse than the false accuser herself. Smh
No. 1181463
>>1181418 awesome, hope we get that starbucks gift card as a bonus like he promised.
>>1181426 seconded!! I was disappointed it got locked when clearly some of us were ahead of her game.
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>>1181391Still, there's publications out there willing to publish claims with little to no evidence. Why doesn't she push her story to them? She'll get the publicity she apparently is desperate to gain and she can save her evidence for court.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1181478
>>1181472What is more telling is none of these tabloids mention Annie Jackson while at the same time publishing the accusations of ERW, Ashley, LoveBailey, Esme and everyone else who claimed they were touched backstage in the 90s.
Ffs publications like The Sun and the Daily Mail run articles on people claiming they were abducted by aliens but they won't touch Annies allegations which relate to a subject which was getting huge press attention at the time? Give me a break.
Let me guess she'll soon claim to have a falling out with this mysterious publisher which will be her excuse for yet again failing to provide any evidence. She'll claim to be stepping away from social media and will instead deal with it in court. By the time the court case come, Annie will be nowhere to be seen.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1181493
>>1181490Honest question and please don't ban me for asking but if an accusor is found to be fraudulent how is that not a
valid subject for discussion?
No. 1181499
>>1181483I know she's been working on something since December 2020.
I don't know when she started working with any particular publisher. She now claims to have been working with them for 5 weeks but less than 5 weeks ago she claimed she wasn't working with any media. Make of that what you will.
I'll report back what response I get from Huff Post
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She was backed by his girlfriend of two years just now. Fuck off all of you for contributing and relishing in someone’s pain like this.(ignoring admin post)
No. 1181542
>>1181539Not proven in the slightest. Can mods ban Annie posts unless they’re milky and
also those who make baseless accusations against a
victim who’s supported by Evan’s company and other
victims? Kthx
No. 1181547
>>1181542Can mods ban supposedly silent suicidal
victims who can’t afford to go public too to make them even more silent? Kthnx
No. 1181552
>>1181551Proof against suicidal
victims ? Stalking ?
No. 1181554
>>1181444Spot on. Its like someone mentioned it's become a doomsday cult at this point with the diehards just convinced beyond reason.
Bringing things back to earth, has there been any further reports or devopmemts in the fbi or police investigation?
No. 1181561
>>1181557Or maybe she’s just still working with the authorities because the other
victims had a year or two of a headstart? You do get that this is an investigation that involves all of them? and that filing an individual police report months or years after it happened with no way to prove the rape unless you have it on film would mean she would have to take a different approach? Esme went with human trafficking and she had every right to i ain’t criticizing.
But wtf what the actual blue fuck is this place if a
victim who shared more than ALL OF THEM is the one who’s smeared the most and no one for all the realsies sees anything wrong with this? No one?
Y’all need help.
No. 1181576
>>1181575>B-b-but she has screenshots of Manson sending her an SMS. You can't fake that. Except it's unbelievable easy to do.
It's quire fascinating to see just how much people are willing to beleive suspicious 'evidence' because it validates their own prejudices. The similarities with those on flat earth fb groups is quite startling.
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No. 1181583
>>1181582“Patriot” act. Kek.
It’s been 7 weeks. They’re not dumb. Of course they have.
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I wish she would just post her video and fuck off. We all know that's all she has against him and everything else is just a pathetic circus show to get attention.
Do your thing, move on and let the other women who were actually abused have the spotlight in confronting their abuser.
I'm real tired of this nauseating look-at-me narcissism.
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Something isn't adding up for me.
We've been told the article has been finished as it was ready to be published last Friday but it was held off at the last second because the news doesn't like to drop these type of articles on a Friday (??? - source:
http://www.slaybrams.com). This means all the interviews, fact checking, running by the legal department, etc would have all been done.
Sometime between Friday and Tuesday night, BHW has suddenly been successful in having the article postponed (how did he know?) through "intimidation, defamation and […]
victim shaming".
Uh what? How does BHW having a tantrum stop a new organization from publishing an article which has been thoroughly investigated, corroborated and fact checked? Truth is an absolute defense to libel.
Since ERW named BHW as her abuser, HuffPost alone has published 12 articles on MM all going into details about the accusations (source:
https://www.huffpost.com/entertainment/topic/marilyn-manson).
Obviously none of these articles - all incredibly damaging to BHW - were prevented from going out.
It's quite unsettling for me to now hear her complete downplay the article ever coming out. There is a 0% chance a company, already well reported as going through financial restructure, having sunk the costs into a finished product would simply just delete it and not propose to release it at a later date very shortly
I
want to be a believer but I am really struggling to make sense of her story on this.
No. 1181716
>>1181280She has provided jack shit. There isn't a single photo of them together. The audios sound fuck all like him. I interacted with her a few times when she was Lola Skye, back in 2007/2008. She's always been like this, a nutcase crying for attention. I'm not a Manson fan so don't even go there. But I'm fucking sick of Annie's bullshit. She's just going to make it harder for real
victims to be believed in the future.
No. 1181728
>>1181577Lol, someone dropped a conspicuous photo of Manson that doesn’t appear to be posted anywhere. He apparently never went to rehab. I also see him on his fakes posting.
Annie is in contact with Manson still. You’re all probably being duped.
(Dawn) No. 1181766
>>1181728Pretty much like with Lindsay's boobs pic, we won't learn who dropped the pic. My bet the pic is not recent, I don't see the good old triple chin.
I don't understand why admins won't check some posters. It's been confirmed Manson/his sockpuppets and Annie/her sockpuppets are posting itt. I would love to know who posted what, including Lindsay and Manson pics. Their messages need to be marked.
No. 1181768
>>1181754You’re right, that could be it. I don’t know… I’m going to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing to think about is why would Manson & his corroborates seem to be going thru so much trouble working overtime to make her look bad?
Also, Manson is a real stupid ass to think just because he uses ‘middle men’ to do his dirty work that he won’t be held accountable.
(Dawn) No. 1181775
>>1181751Her posting incriminating information (if you can even call it that—most of the evidence she's posted just makes him look like an asshole, not a criminal) about him could work in his favor if it eventually comes to light that she's lying. It makes other
victims look guilty too because her story lines up with some of theirs, e.g. the anti-semitism, blackmail and death threats, multiple forms of abuse. There are hundreds of reasons why she could be doing this other than being an actual
victim, which is unlikely at this point, but I doubt she's working for him because of the lengths his camp has went to to discredit her.
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Please mods take my photo off this website. I am suicidal and have been since I met with Illma Gore thank you.
No. 1181840
>>1181831Ok. These pics you've posted are from 2014.
Who are you?
Tell us about Illm Gore.
And tell us about Manson too.
No. 1181843
>>1181768Exactly. As long as there is something linking him to these middle men…
>>1181775True.
And this…
> I doubt she's working for him because of the lengths his camp has went to to discredit her. I agree. It doesn’t make sense to go to such great lengths if there wasn’t something more to this. But rather than making false allegations on them, he’s using social media outlets to to say derogatory things to make her look bad. Just like Evan with the Hitler stuff.
I doubt his accusers are going to post the real incriminating stuff right now. They wanna be heard so they give bits and pieces of it. But it makes hard for people to know what’s what without seeing the whole picture.
(Dawn) No. 1181856
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Take all mentions of me and this photo off of this website immediately.
No. 1181866
>>1181856You are probably a troll. A silly one if you can't see that's not mods are talking to you.
You say you have never met him and then you post not recent but new pics of him.
Are you that anon who promised to kill themselves on Monday?
It's likely Illma used to post here too. You shouldn't have talked to her.
No. 1181878
>>1181831>>1181856So you post more photos while asking for it be removed. Makes sense.
>>1181874It’s a gossip site, I doubt they’ll take them down.
No. 1181900
>>1181877Engaging in illegal activity by getting a
victim to further identify themselves in ways they cannot afford.
No. 1181949
>>1181658Fr you'd think Huffington Post US would publish it if it has been so well researched and it's such a timely piece. I'm withholding support for her until things are more clear. All we know is she has recordings of someone who sounds like drunk Manson (and there are appa that can imitate celebrity voices) and her claims. I want to believe
victims and I believe the others but there's something very off about her…
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1181973
>>1181966Contact Illma Gore from the Phoenix Act.
Who the fuck thinks lolcow can help ppl with that?
No. 1181995
>>1181964>>1181975Your photo was posted 10 months ago
>>957915 and suddenly it’s a problem? If someone is making shit up about you, your issue is with that person not a website.
>>1181964You lost custody due in part to online harassment? I doubt a judge can hold that against you, that’s out of your control. Generally, you loose custody due to neglect or abuse and you have parental rights to fight it. Something bigger is going on here and it seems you want to blame lolcow.
No. 1182023
Farmhand, are you sure it's Dawn?
Is it also Dawn?
>>1181831>>1181577 No. 1182028
>>1181995>>1181995 This website offered a platform for that person to post defamatory statements, so yes it is in the eyes of the law, their responsibility also. I didn’t know it was posted, but someone contacted my family and told them about it, and they never asked me, they just assumed and then asked for a prior judgement awarding me custody against
abusive person to be reversed. I have no parental rights and the judge ruled in that favor. They even leaked my email, phone number, to my abuser after someone posted this photo and there’s nothing I can do.
No. 1182034
>>1182028>This website offered a platform for that person to post defamatory statements, so yes it is in the eyes of the law, their responsibility also.I guess all gossip forums should be shut down then, good luck with that.
>and they never asked meIt sounds like you need an attorney for due process. Afaik, your email and phone number wasn’t leaked here.
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Why would Kiwi Farms mess with someone who has access to Attorney General and the governor of three states.
No. 1182065
>>1182053You haven't a clue what you are talking about. This site won't be taken down and neither will any post or screenshot, picture etc.
People here know what they are doing in that regard. Log off, sort your life out do something more productive than sperging out at an image board.
Your stupid demands won't get you anywhere and you can email who you want. And as for threatening suicide? Pretty weak move. Go seek help instead of trying that shit on a bunch of strangers who don't give a rat's ass.
No. 1182099
>>1182065Exactly, do they think they’re the first person to bitch about gossip here? Lolcow has been around for years, they couldn’t operate unless they had legalities covered.
>>1182070Let me get this straight. You lost custody because someone posted your pic here liked by Manson and claimed you’re now being harassed by Manson, then later leaked your personal info to the
abusive father. Someone showed a family member this forum and since the judge never asked your side, nor did you seem to fight it legally, it’s all lolcow’s fault? It doesn’t add up. Fighting to get your kid back should be your first priority, not threatening copyright infringement.
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To whom it shall concern,
My name is Brian Warner. You may know as an actor from some of your favorite TV shows. I've also dabbled in other performing arts.
It has come to my attention that this internet website has posted a number of photographs and slanderous commentary about me.
I kindly request such materials be immediately removed from your repository before I have my hand forced to take more serious action.
I am thankful for your co-operation on this matter.
Sincerely,
Brian H(e double hockey sticks) Warner
No. 1182183
>>1182174Dear Mr Warner,
We have received your email and someone will get back to you within the next 9-10 months.
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to reach out again.
Sincerely,
Advocate Esquire III.
Attorney.
No. 1182212
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This is too good. The goobers over at /r/marilyn_manson are displaying their high IQs again
No. 1182214
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Hoping this is okay to post because it could potentially involve MM. Also tinfoil.
In Annies new post and stories, she is reading hate mail she supposedly got from people, but I couldn't help but notice that her computer is not even turned on. (Look in the reflection of her glasses)
What if she was working for MM and that was a intentional move to futher discredit her and therefore all victims?
If not, then she is an absolute lunatic
No. 1182219
>>1182214For the love of Sonny & Cher can we not mention this person at all. This thread goes apeshit every god damn time. Unless they ever present some legitimate evidence to back up anything they have so say they should be completely ignored here.
There's enough trash filling these threads up ad it is without piling more on.
No. 1182235
>>1182214I watched the video. The computer is off.
She's making it all up.
Do the Phoenix act people buy her bs?
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>>1182214>therefore all victims? Why would her being discredited reflect on all
victims? If they show support it’s because they’ve been abused themselves and inclined to believe someone who also claims to be a
victim and showed some proof (audio).
No. 1182241
>>1182235That's the thing. There is no way the Phoenix women wouldn't know if she was lying, yet ERW constantly reposts Annie, Esme has given her a shout and the Ashleys and Illma are all following her.
The Pheonix Act is a hugely ambitious project attempting to change laws across the nation. There is no chance they would jeopardize its success at the expense of making one '
victim' feeling welcomed. If Annie is lying the entire cohort involved with Phoenix would be equally discredited, not to mention the worldwide discrediting which would undermine
victims everywhere who would face more skepticism. There are serious implications involved.
No. 1182243
>>1182240It discredit Annie, not the other
victims. She does have a talent at finding excuses for everything under the sun.
No. 1182250
>>1182247How are they one and the same? They show support for someone who claims to be a
victim.
No. 1182256
>>1182250By choosing to be so close with Annie and sharing content between each other on instagram, they have merged Phoenixs credibility with Annie's. If you want to change laws and want people to take yet-unproven allegations by women seriously you
do not put a liar up as one of your examples. There is no way they didn't research and confirm her story before letting her in.
if (big if) Annie is lying, Phoenix knew and still decided to proceed with her. This would be proof Phoenix is acting dishonestly and will use lies to achieve its goals
No. 1182273
>>1182263It’s definitely Annie talking if you compare to her recent video reading messages.
>>1182266>>1182256How would the Phoenix Act know she’s lying when she posted audio and texts? The Phoenix Act is involved because Illma Gore follows Annie and Evan posted the Lana Del Rey article?
No. 1182274
>>1182269ERW has banked her reputation on Annie.
Either she is incredibly stupid or she's been playing dirty tricks the entire time
No. 1182306
>>1182300If you want people to trust you and pusg for people to believe
victims prior to evidence being made, maybe you shouldn't use a compulsive liar as one of your examples? Either Evan is unbelievably stupid or she was willing to do unethical things to get what she wanted
No. 1182313
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BREAKING NEWS: The Phoenix Act have named their first eyewitness to give testimony in the trial against Marilyn Manson.
No. 1182329
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Y’all are blind. If you zoom in and increase exposure and brightness you can see the white line (I assume tbe messages) move. It’s what it looks like in dark mode. If the sun is behind her or hitting the screen and she is trying to save the battery by decreased brightness then it makes sense it wouldn’t show on those type of reflective high contrast lenses. Some folks see a conspiracy in everything. It’s probably why she removed her shades because she probably couldn’t properly read it.
And you are mind numbing me with your excuses. You’re making her out to be this super haXX0rz who can fool an org like PA that’s working with FBI. Just because she’s not sharing all information with you doesn’t make her out to be a liar. I’m sorry I’m siding with the victims and orgs that support her instead of counting on some shitty screenshots to be accurate. Your stretch would make my yoga teacher blush with envy.
No. 1182330
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No. 1182343
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If you zoom in further it looks like Marilyn Manson is standing behind her. His face is cut off at the rim of the glassed
No. 1182349
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>>1182343My dad helped but the Hubble telescope so I've used some of the things laying around the house to conduct a scientific analysis if the image.
We can see clearly on the shirt of the mysterious figure there is a swastika. There is only one man evil enough to who wear a black shirt with a swastika.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1182351
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>>1182340
You literally see the black window that’s open. Black, straight, window. That never moves. That’s not her reflection and you’re ridiculously desperate to believe it. By that logic, the phone she’s using to record the whole thing is off then too when it should be very bright because the video is bright. You can on occasion see slight movements on her phone but most of the time it’s black too. It’s the sunglasses, filter and brightness outside.
No. 1182357
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>>1182351We're onto something here. I'm a digital forensic investigator and I've zoomed in on the screen. The laptop I definitely turned off but most surprisingly if you look carefully you can see in the distant background a sasquatch causally walking by her house
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She’s claiming Callum Keith Rennie is a witness to some of this.
No. 1182365
>>1182329She is outside in the sun with sunglasses on. Have you ever tried using your phone outside when the brightness is turned down? You can't see a thing!
How long before she posts more made up emails on IG to prove they were real being that she basically lives on this thread.
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Nonnas bifocles have spoken! Let it be known the computer is ON!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1182380
>>1182361Now THIS is valuable. If we can message him and have him confirm her claims it goes a tremendous way to showing Annie may be truthful.
I'm a huge Annie sceptic but I'll follow wherever the evidence is and if this can be confirmed it may be a bombshell
(cowtipping) No. 1182388
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>>1182383Both of his accounts liked her post where she named Manson her rapist.
No. 1182393
>>1182388That's not evidence though. Dozens of people liked those comments.
If he can confirm he spoke with Annie and he witnessed for himself M acting like a turd towards her that is really going to help with her credibility. Its not proof of her rape allegation but it gives some minor support for her
No. 1182400
>>1182393It proves Callum supports her.
If she’s blatantly lying about him talking to Manson I doubt he’d allow her to write it or keep the blog post up. An actor to put his name and reputation on the line to support Annie is big.
No. 1182408
>>1182395It proves nothing for obvious reasons.
If she's lying she's taken a huge gamble putting a famous name to quantifiable actions which he can disprove. Hopefully he can say something (that isn't a screencap by Annie) where he can vouch for this happening.
No. 1182413
>>1182410That's what I find so great. Annie has finally done something that another independent party can confirm or deny.
We have nothing to indicate he is aware of her claim on the website so his silence doesn't mean anything. Hopefully he becomes aware of it at some point and can make a brief statement confirming.
No. 1182420
>>1182410Exactly. I love how some people naively assume that all evidence is supposed to just drop all at once. Sexual assault cases especially in large numbers take a long time to process. If there’s new
victims with new evidence coming in like in Annie’s case then it would add to the investigation and growing evidence. Her naming Callum was probably a big move for her if not a desperate one because she seems really low.
No. 1182432
>>1182413So Callum has to independently make a statement even though she tagged him in the post, he liked her rape accusations from two accounts, and follows her to believe it? The post has been up for 7 hours, he’d have to be blind not to see her blog post.
I’d like to hear his side too but unless she takes the blog post down or he disputes her claims I’m gonna go on a limb and believe it.
No. 1182439
>>1182432Assuming you're not stupid, if I go post on Twitter and @TomHanks saying we had a wonderful romance last night, by him not responding and independently confirming my story you will go out on a limb and believe.
Just admit you don't care for evidence and beleive in what makes you feel good instead
(ban evading retard) No. 1182441
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>>1182434He liked the new post that literally talks about him you dimwit
No. 1182447
>>1182444>>1182441Show me where Callum has shown he is aware of her retarded story?
Someone liking an instagram post isn't proof you dumb shit.
No. 1182463
>>1182451She’s not a proven fraud in the slightest.
Annie:
Audio and possibly video footage she hinted at. Posted ten mins of it. Evidently there’s more.
Texts, emails and DM’s from official accounts that could easily be disproven by those who are investigating it.
Support from Phoenix act and a few
victims like Esme, both of the Ashley’s, Louise’s, and even Evan who founded PA and has shared two stories that linked to articles about Annie’s leaks
Phoenix is clearly working together with the FBI on these investigations so to think that they wouldn’t look into this is asinine.
Support from an actor who worked on the same show as Manson and they probably met at Californication related parties. Callum was the main male actor in a movie with Evan Rachel Wood that’s not even that old.
The Mansonites:
Screenshots that can be faked by a 3rd grader and those “posts” do sound like someone doing a poor attempt at writing like her. It’s sus af that a lot of them start with something like tHiS iS oNlY vIsIbLe To My PrIvAtE LiSt yawn and fuck off how predictable are you?
Alleged photoshopped images of Annie with celebrities
Annie had a stage name when she was in her late teens and a temporary name in her mid 20s till she settled on a name tied to her family which she claims was anglicized. Fair enough, my Jewish grandma did that too. And guess what? Mansons real name ain’t Marilyn Manson lmfao
……..zzz if you’re asking me which of the above I’d rather believe, I’m gonna go with Annie even if she’s a fucking mess. If her trauma is that recent I’m ok giving her a pass for a bit.
No. 1182465
>>1182459Mansonites: Callum hasn’t even liked her new post and probably hasn’t seen it there’s no way he would approve
Mansonites after Callum acknowledges her post: wHy DoEs ShE wAnT aTtEnTiOn?!1!?
No. 1182470
>>1182467By that logic, none of the
victims have. The ones who dated him openly have that going for them as an advantage because it’s known. It doesn’t disprove Annie or any other
victim who happened to have a brief thing or straight fucking rape. The vast majority of rape cases can’t be proven without a rape kit or a tape. All a
victim can do in that case is provide evidence like recordings and paper trails of which Annie has plenty if not more than most of them. To say she has no evidence is a bit unfair when along with the tapes and messages, she has the support of those who could dismiss her or disprove her in a second. No one would allow for her to keep spewing this without stepping in to tear her a new one.
No. 1182479
>>1182470I'm not saying she doesn't have evidence, but nothing she has posted is definitive proof. Same with the antis. I'm just tired of seeing every day people trying to argue why they should convert. The die hards on either side ain't changing lane. Let's just agree to disagree and focus on milk.
If we can agree to ignore those trying to inflame debate that would be super lovely
No. 1182503
>>1182492Out of all the
victims it was most recent. Trauma doesn’t mean just rape. If he controlled, blackmailed and manipulated her that can be extremely traumatic too. And AFAIK she cut him off only after her sister died in January and he mocked her when she was grieving.
No. 1182530
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You have to laugh. In her attempt to earn points with the woke folk esme inadvertently throws shade at ERW after her unfortunate racist twitter remarks
No. 1182555
>>1182530>>1182551>>1182552She’s moving her arm to the beat mimicking Manson. lmao
You do realize whatever imaginary racism you pin on Evan pales in comparison to Manson, right? You can’t have outrage at her and ignore his.
No. 1182568
>>1182542Nta but she was called racist by numerous
PoC after her notorious tweet about Kobe.
>>1182551This is not the nazi salut.
No. 1182574
>>1182570See
>>1182569Tbh even if she's a nazi (more like she was an edge lord, just like Manson) it doesn't absolve Manson from the crimes he's done. Nobody deserves being raped. IF she's a nazi it means Manson likes to surround himself with people like him - nazis.
So shame on your efforts.
No. 1182576
>>1182574see
>>1182570What's more plausible. ERW doing a nazi salute doing the totalitarian part of the song and performance or sure doing a half macarena for no reason whatsoever? Wake up and stop making excuses for racists
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>>1182576>Wake up and stop making excuses for racists. Agreed.
No. 1182594
>>1182579You are misreading.
It wouldn't be his fault if she was a nazi but it would show what kind of people he likes to put in his close circle.
No. 1182596
>>1182591Nta but it may have been for this
> IF she's a nazi it means Manson likes to surround himself with people like himIt is a pretty bad argument
No. 1182605
>>1182591Stephen Bier is a woman? lmao Melissa filming racist content that’s confirmed by Bier and others in the documentary
>>1157281 doesn’t fit that narrow view.
No. 1182610
>>118260018 months ago so Aug 2019 is what I'm getting the impression of but she's still being pointlessly vague which she has no reason to be us she's truthful. It feels like it's vague on purpose so she can keep changing her story.
The problem with this theory is she was blonde throughout 2019 but she posted a video of her hospitalised with red hair. Nothing adds up
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Can we talk about the fact that yesterday Annie posted a long, melodramatic rant feeling sorry for herself and begging people to send her hate, only to have a video today where she was "reading" the comments and giving an Oscar worthy pity party performance?
She's since deleted the original post where she literally asked for it. Hmmmmmmmm
No. 1182732
Do not ban me before you read what I say, I’m using the following as a real life example:
John Geoghan was a Catholic priest & serial child rapist. Despite the parents of the boys submitting multiple police reports over the years (34 years to be exact)…no legal action was taken because the Catholic Church had protected
The publisher that investigated the allegations against him was The Boston Globe. It took nearly a year for them to check sources to make sure they were reporting FACTS, not because the priest was innocent but because the web of crimes were so intertwined and complex The Boston Globe needed to triple check everything to be reputable.
My point in tell you all this:
Just because Annie’s article didn’t come out doesn’t make her a liar. I’m not saying I know for a fact that she isn’t lying… But reputable publications delay their stories to triple check timelines, they make sure the story lines up and are reported on FACTS. Only publications that live off gossip columns push stories out right away because they are not worried about facts they make their bread and butter off sensation.
I agree with everyone here that has brought up the fact that Annie is a pivotal part of the Phoenix Act and is protected under them. It DOES NOT matter that she shouldn’t be posting and that if she really did have a lawyer she wouldn’t be saying anything.
Allegedly, (and IMO i think it’s true) this is someone who has faced severe trauma. You don’t know her you don’t know if she’s endured other types of traumas in her life. I don’t either. All I know is people cope differently.
I’m not trying to blog I just want to provide perspective so maybe we can be less impatient with Annie and stop demanding details ASAP or assume shes’s lying…
My mother is narcissistic.. I went through 24 years of psychological, physical and emotional abuse and honestly thought everything I went through was just considered strict/normal parenting. It wasn’t until i entered my first corporate job at 24 when my boss verbally abused me on a daily basis for 6 months when my life began to unravel and I entered therapy. I had to leave my job because my mind was so exhausted all I wanted to do was sleep (this was depression I didnt know i had), I couldn’t eat, and I couldn’t leave my house. You’re probably calling me me soft you, crazy or sensitive. I don’t disagree with you, my point is…despite facing abuse throughout my upbringing, it took a tiny push from a total stranger in the work place for me to break.
Also, Annie is a publicist she very well knows how she should or shouldn’t be presenting herself in this situation BUT coping with trauma doesn’t let the logical mind steer your thoughts and emotions. Don’t write her off as a liar until someone with actual credibility comes forward with facts to dismiss her. You can’t come to a conclusion about her based off clues you think you found on the internet.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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is she taking the piss or is this some serious cognitive dissonance
No. 1182804
>>1182729You do make some good and
valid points; and these are things I’ve also thought of myself. Except one thing: she did leak something that could be useful and potentially damaging. But I’m the only one that understands it.
And that’s the thing and the part that makes me question why would she reveal certain information if she was on his side?
>2. BHW has leaked photos and recordings through her. Notice nothing she has put out from him is actually damaging to him legally or reputationally? No. 1182819
>>1182732That was also made into a movie about the Catholic Church. It’s called Spotlight.
There’s also another one based on a true story about a reporter. He tries to expose dirty cops that try to frame an innocent man. It’s called Most Wanted.
But that’s real journalism. They write for big media, not these online no name media outlets.
No. 1182855
>>1182839I couldn't care less about Manson's routine, unlike Annie who is obsessed with him.
P.s. not a dude here, do I have to send my id to prove it?
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>>1182848It was obvious to me in that OG video that the computer was on even more than in this one. In the original you could at least see Facebook colors behind the dark mode window. Even if she “woke” her Mac up here you can see still it’s dark right before and right after. It’s just light and probably her high contrast lenses that make it look dark. Top kek at people thinking she’d stare at a shut off computer and still post it.
No. 1182968
>>1182966You are being delusional or in denial.
Since when it's okay to discuss Annie? Quit this bs.
No. 1182969
>>1182935It’s probably why she had to take them off in the first video. She was struggling to read it and see it. Dark mode doesn’t mean you can’t see either. It means it’s a black background with white letters which are as easy to see as if it was reversed. If anything I’m surprised she took them off because I’d think it would be easier to read it with glasses on to subdue the glare if there was any.
And I’m gonna go out on a limb here and assume that she was hesitant to remove her glasses because her eyes looked puffy and red to me. She said her face was swollen and that she was upset or crying.
Not everything’s a conspiracy let it go. It looked more obvious her computer was on in the first video because of I think Facebook in the background. In this one it looks pitch black on the glasses but normal when she turned it around.
The dress is blue and black, deal with it.
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>>1182963The Downfall of Marilyn Manson coming to a theatre near you. Lol
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again with this obsession of needing validation from online strangers. why is she so desperate to be beleived by anonymous posters here any elsewhere?
No. 1183023
>>1183019Seriously tho….
Admin. clean up on isle stupidity
(samefagging) No. 1183024
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No. 1183027
>>1183023>>1183019>>1183014you may want to sage next time. It makes your samefagging slightly less obvious.
This website has never been "eloquent" but I'm interested in whatever potent drug you're high on right now
No. 1183033
>>1183028>The details about her rape are not going to be known to usnor the police kek
how can she expect to see justice against manson when her magical pile of rubbish isn't given to authorities to do something with. unless her justice is just to create online smear and never be accountable for validating her claims.
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>>1183109
He literally liked her post in which she thanked him and linked to the blog post. They’ve been friends for a long time she’d run that shit by him. Jfc Mansonites are so predictable
Anyway though, I think the audio recordings are legit, I know that the legal process takes a while and I know that if she didn’t report his rape back when it happened that this muddies things especially if her claim that he deleted things from that time is correct. So she probably doesn’t have any legs to stand on when it comes to the rape case.
My theory is that because recording someone in Canada is legal she’s probably consulting lawyers about those recordings to see if any of it can be seen as admission of guilt that they can use for other things. Similar to Esme pursuing the human trafficking angle.
I’m more inclined to believe Annie has something bad on him but because there’s no evidence of the rape she’ll need some time with legal to see if they can use anything else.
I find her entertaining anyways on occasion and I get a laugh at the Star Trek memes so I’m ok with waiting for a bit to see where this goes. I’m somewhere in the middle where I’ll be neutral unless one side or the other pulls me more to believe she’s either truthful or not. But she’s got more on him than Mansonites so I’m somewhere at 62% on the side of believing her.
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>>1183157>an innocent misunderstood man I never laughed so hard. Oh sure… it was her that took advantage of him.
These fucking mansonites man.
(Dawn) No. 1183190
>>1183157Annie: don’t y’all understand I’m suicidal, how can you say these things to me? See ya guys I’m logging off for a while
Nek minnit ….
No. 1183240
>>1183234She has a video where manson in a very broad sense gives an indication ERWs allegations are true. Whether it's an admission of actual guilt or more of his stupid edgy talk about rape rooms who knows. The video serves no value for law enforcement and she intended it to be released publically in order to give credence to the allegations.
That's it. That's all she has. Everything is her digging herself deeper and deeper into a hole. I don't beleive she ever intended to claim he raped her but she got whipped up in the fervour and now she's got to ride this ship until it sinks.
No. 1183259
>>1183240Interesting.
How do you know about that?
No. 1183384
>>1183309Why even assume such a thing? Some of you here expect me to believe you’re not newfag mansonites but then you say things like this. She’s had a history with this guy that’s on the longer side. She deleted some photos of them from a few years ago but there were at least 5 or 6 from different times. I started following her when someone on here pointed out that Manson was following her months ago in maybe thread 7 or 8. They hang out. There were more photos of them together than most of her other friends. I saved one birthday post she made for him years ago but I can’t find it on her insta so I’ll have to try and find it in my photos. Didn’t she say she’s known him for overa decade somewhere too?
+ listen up Mansonites not every pro Annie poster is Annie and not every pro Annie poster is delusional. From our side you look that way too.
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>>1183384With her dog too.
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Even Lindsay starts to recognize how ridiculous she looks kek
No. 1183580
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>>1183576Samefag. Just compare Lindsay to Eva Longoria who is way more famous and has heaps more genuine followers. Kek kek
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Hamson also briefly realized how ridiculous he looks, then gave up kek
No. 1183875
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Esmé's stats shows a bit of a drop off a few days ago.
What happened to her in Sept 2019 to have such a large drop in followers?
I tried viewing the stats of ERW and AA but they weren't available on this website.
Interestingly Lindsay is no longer following MM though she comments to follow dozens of manson fan pages.
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>>1183875How retarded are you
No. 1184020
>>1183597Ew. who would miss such a bore? I would rather discuss more interesting people… like Annie.
>>1183972Who really wants to see her boring ass posts? The dumb fuck is an embarrassment and should just delete herself. She isn’t going to be able to go back to her gloating posts, especially now that she has a police report filed on her by Evan.
I bet it’s not so cute now how she made a movie reference about being disgusting criminals.
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No. 1184153
>>1184146YES. He’s probably one of her best clients.
>>1184089Of course. That’s why they’re “high end”. They don’t escort just anyone. Remember Heidi Fleiss? I think she even said she had Hollywood actresses escorting for her.
No. 1184173
>>1184058I said when she released her statement on hamson she was protecting herself from offending males, her business depends on men fantasizing about her. It makes
sense also if she's a high end escort, not only to not offend clients, but to also show she'd never reveal their kinky bedroom secrets, a man who can afford a night with her is bound to be rich and/or powerful.
No. 1184204
>>1184058That's a very bizarre and unlikely rumour really.
Simpler explanation is probably more likely, that is, as part of their divorce settlement, MM and Ditta must have agreed to not divulge much about their private life as a married couple. Ditta's statement was fucking terrible probably because she is a fucking terrible person.
No. 1184254
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First photo is from months ago when Annie was having a fake 4way relationship with Manson and JJ Abrams.
She had two sockpuppet accounts for MM, Mary Jones being one of them. She would talk to herself back and fourth between her own account and the sockpuppet account.
Notice how "Mary Jones" a.k.a MM says "Sir, this is a Wendys"and the context in which it is said. This screenshot has been circulating for weeks now.
Second photo is from just a few days ago and it was posted by Annie to her IG story, and was even posted on this thread. Notice the "Ma'am, this is a Wendys" reference again.
If you are too gullible to not see it by now, you can not be helped.
No. 1184261
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>>1184254When I first saw these facebook captions I wrote them off as fakes but the more I've looked into it the less it seems to be the case.
What's written is of course fantasy but these are not just the results of photoshop. I've looked up the names of the people visible and they are all real accounts. Almost all have locked down their privacy settings since but a couple are still largely visible to the public.
No. 1184268
>>1184254are there more of these?
she has a post from last year where she mentions her favorite book is about a psychologist who made breakthroughs on schizophrenia by doing tests on patients. could she be suffering from it herself? it would explain these stories which come out about her past. I just want to say if she's a sufferer it doesnt mean her abuse isnt real though
No. 1184277
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>>1184268There are a TON of them. She documented weeks of her "life" with MM and JJ Abrams. From what they did that day all the way to sexual things.
There is even a freakout on her main fb page because a few people were mentioning the relationship outside of the private posts. Here is the freakout.
Hopefully they will open the Annie thread again at some point so this can all be dumped there.
I think she is still sticking with her story that Manson and friends were making these posts to set her up, but it just isn't the case.
No. 1184301
>>1184297You're not the first one in these threads to suggest that and I'm leaning toward the same conclusion that she is talking over a recording. I'm equally as stumped though as to where they came from.
She has a lot of superficial level contact with celebrities through her job. Maybe one of them had shared calls recordings with her. She appears to be very good as wrapping seemingly false stories around small nuggets of truth lending her that hint of plausibility.
No. 1184308
>>1184304It is her Feb 8th post with the recordings, third slide. This is what I could understand from it.
MM: "It's about Evan telling me how she was raped, not about me and her, It's the only song I have written down and it's written across my wall"
button click AA: "What song is that?"
MM: "It's from one…Into The Fire, It's written from one wall to another in one night and I sang it the next day
I don't see this stuff being something he would say in an interview though. Therr is some personal stuff in there and he discusses Evan which he has refused to do in interviews. It seems like he is talking to someone he knows and trusts. How close was he with this Callum guy?
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There's an account on instagram which is reposting all the facebook screencaps.
It's not looking good.
I found the Manson accusations by itself believable but as all her stories require the believing this was a 4-way relationship with Manson, Lindsay and JJ Abrams ("Anth") it's either the delusions of a very unwell women or there is a serious David Lynchian Hollywood drama unfolding before our eyes.
No. 1184328
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>>1184314At this point there are some serious concerns about it.
In these leaked images Annie refers to already working with the Phoenix Act and TimesUpNow before she named Manson. You could dismiss the facebook comment as part of the delusions but Annie still has on her profile tags for TimesUp. She went hard with deleting posts on her instagram but a couple still survive.
No. 1184329
>>1184297
>There are only like two or three times where they actually seem to be talking to each other. But, I am sure she has studied the recordings and knows what he will say and when to ask her question. Example: she says "What song is this?" and he is like "Like the song Into The Fire". Jesus, it never surprises me the lengths people go to in order to ignore what is right in front of them.
Manson is talking about how he wrote the lyrics to a song on his wall. He starts to say "like from one" then he stops to answer Annie's question about what song he's talking about by saying "into the fire", then he continues what he was going to say before he answered her question: "and its written from one wall…" Seconds later she says wow, and he reacts to her by repeating said wow. This is one of many interactions littered throughout the recordings.
The guy is a selfish conversationalist whose absinthe-soaked brain is slow as mollasses.
Please look up Occam's Razor and stop using "tinfoil" as an excuse to not think rationally.
No. 1184342
>>1184335You could say the same about everything posted here in the last few hours that sounds like one person talking to themselves. Nothing can convince me those screenshots are from her because they don’t actually read like her to me.
And most of these “hmm hint hint” questions posted here conveniently during Hamson opening hours make me laugh. Like she already answered the Instagram question without being asked. She said he was in her account changed her captions and that he’s like a cockroach where just when she thinks she deleted everything he changed in her captions she finds more.
“Sir this is a Wendy’s” is a Reddit meme but I’ve seen it all over Facebook. You’d have to be living under a rock for the past year to not have seen that.
Did you ever consider that some of us are bored of your back and forth you’re not supposed to be having here? Did you ever consider that some of us find it boring? Those look and read fake to me but yojre eating it all up then claiming whoever comes to defend is Annie. This might be the most boring part about discussing these fakes here. It’s not about discussing those as it is boring as fuck to constantly discuss this woman I don’t care to discuss even though I believe her. Because it’s not even possible to discuss it with the two autistic newfags who present these things as if they don’t know they’re fake. So this is why a lot of us oldies here don’t bother engaging anymore. Give it up Brian.
No. 1184353
>>1184308Then there's no way it's not his voice. It's 100% him, the song has references to rape:
>An excerpt from the lyrics of "Into the Fire" appears on the current homepage of MarilynManson.com ("there isn't any "white cotton panties" that aren't soaked and stained red").Tbh I am surprised that Manson, being in the shitty state that he is in now, could remember the details of events which happened so long ago.
It was known for a long time Into the Fire is about Evan.
You can check the lyrics and what he used to say about the song during The High End of Low Era:
https://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/Into_the_FireNot an image because I cant screenshot the entire page.
I wish AA released full versions of the records she has.
Some of anons should stop believing it's not his voice or it's not him.
Because this
>>1184329 And Manson has admitted many times that he's attracted to people who are very much like him: damaged and completely unstable. Annie being an unstable idiot doesn't take away her credibility, it just proves one more time they were in touch.
>>1184342THIS No. 1184366
>>1184362Convenient “stop” at comments that provide an explanation but not at the ones that make it blatantly obviously where it came from.
If her shitty ex friends helped him, I really hope she sticks to that April 1st date and reports them for those crimes. Apparently April 1st is when one of them was dumped by her best friend so she joked in a Dm that it’s an anniversary present if he doesn’t stop . If they’re the greedy types who backstabbed her after she stopped helping them financially then they probably are getting paid by Hamson. I wouldn’t be surprised if the government ID faker made those fake accounts, shops and posts.
No. 1184375
>>1184366Even if her fake ID friend didn’t make those photoshopped photos and posts but it was instead someone on mansons camp, Annie must have a decent lawyer by now so pinning it on the dude who fakes government documents isn’t far fetched.
I mean who would they believe? The about to be felon who committed major fraud that’ll imprison him for decades and never leave the country again or the rape
victim with evidence? And wasn’t there an illegal immigrant who earns a lot of money under the table?
This is hilarious.
No. 1184378
>>1184366I am
>>1184353 and I want to say that these Annie sperg newfags who can't integrate can't be helped but when I see an anon who's managed into some rational thinking I don't understand what makes them constantly reply to the recycled bullshit about Annie. JUST FUCKING STOP.
No. 1184382
>>1184375There was no rape. She made it all up!
Don't anyone wonder why the media didn't published her story like they did with real
victims? Because she is lying.
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>>1184432Forgot to attach the file. I made this in six mins.
No. 1184604
>>1184551Anyone with two brain cells can see that a recent trauma
victim wanted to jump ahead and say what he threatened her with which is now being released. Anyone with two brain cells believing that this chick who supposedly didn’t even know what JJ Abrams looked like (why would you? I had to google him) is claiming to be in some poly thing with him, Manson and lindsay. It’s because it’s so ridiculous that his people are doing it. That snippet in her recordings of him talking about knowing exactly who mansonisabusive is and bragging about knowing everything about everyone including their social media is probably just a snippet of something bigger. And if it’s bigger then it would be evidence.
If anything I feel like it’s eating her alive she can’t or isn’t allowed to release it all yet because it would disprove what those people are saying. Think about it. She has to wait if she wants the investigation done properly so right now this chick has no choice but sit it out and watch mansons minions paint her the way they are. If she’s a publicist she’ll know that the first impression with people tends to stick and it’s probably why she said they would do it before they even released those. Probably in hope that some people will remember that and try to keep it in mind.
Look at esmes case. If they had everything gathered and ready to go, he’d be arrested right now. That investigation started a month ago and nothing has been done yet because things like this take time.
I suspect by the time it’s Annie’s turn to get this case going once everything is reviewed and gathered, her image will be damaged. She ain’t famous but unfortunately even when it comes to something like being a public
victim, image matters. So her abuser is trying to be ahead of the curve to smear her.
“Anyone with two brain cells” is ironic in this case because you’re jumping the gun and there’s no evidence whatsoever that those posts are real. They’re so ridiculous. The writing doesn’t quite fit. Something is off about the time stamps. And the all too convenient “this is visible to my private group” add on. There’s literally no evidence it came from her. But she does have at least some real evidence of their connection. If she didn’t she’d have been dropped by now.
You also gotta wonder why they’re so much more brutal about her. It’s interesting you or someone here called her this nobody chick which is what Manson called her. If this nobody got raped in the last 2 years and she has hours of recordings, of course she’d be the one attacked the most. It’s the most recent case and if proven then this case stands the highest chance of putting him behind bars.
La-la-la-I-cant-hear-you all you want, but you know it’s true. There’s no proof that came from her. But she does have some proof and she’s barely shared anything. I’d be willing to bet she was asked to shut up and stop posting about him for now.
No. 1184662
>>1184651Yeah, … that’s a funny little thing about statute of limitations once it runs out… they can’t do nothing to you.
[Aww… too bad so sad, Manson]
(Dawn) No. 1184664
>>1184651There was a question raised about manson on one of the legaladvice subreddit.
The consensus was even if the accusations were false it would be quite unlikely he would win a defamation case. The reason being civil matters have a much lower burden of proof and based alone on his past shock rhetoric in interviews it could reasonably work against him.
If these were accusations against someone like Tom Hanks a defamation case would likely have a very different outcome.
No. 1184675
>>1184631My sister and aunt are schizophrenic. Yeah they’re not sitting around online making up stories. Doesn’t change that Annie has something legitimate. Doubtful she has proof of rape but she has something. Nothing about her even remotely suggests she’s schizophrenic. Least of all the fake posts. You want to believe something so desperately no matter what when it’s pretty obvious she didn’t write that. Her being affected by it has nothing to do with the truth. I’d be hurting too if someone went around pretending to be me and sharing posts claiming it came from me. Which is easy to do and isn’t even time consuming. Try to imagine for a second that that happened to you. Why would she keep going with this knowing that her entire reputation is at risk? Any prospective employer looking her up would see that. I imagine this smear campaign would motivate her to keep going just so she can undo the damage these people have done. I would.
Not everyone jumping to her defence is her either. I’ve analyzed every screenshot and I believed it for a moment that she’s nuts until I noticed some irregularities. The more they posted, the more obvious it became that that wasn’t written by her.
She has the support from a long time friend who happens to be a reputable actor who worked on the same show as Manson, just different seasons. He clearly got attacked so I don’t get what she was expecting. But one thing became evident, she’s affected and hurt by the smear campaign and is dying to release as much as she can but if she wants this to be done right, she’ll probably have to hold on to the real criminal milk. This means giving free reign to those who want to bash her and ruin her reputation all the way until she’s able or allowed to share more.
The moment I realized that was the moment I felt some empathy for her again. That can’t be easy to deal with. I’d like to think I’m a collected person myself but in that situation dealing with so many lies being spread on top of severe trauma would probably make me have a full breakdown. I think it takes a bit of strength and then some to deal with it as well as she is. Yes, “as well”. Armchair and post retarded nonsense theories stated as facts if you have to but I guarantee you that most people wouldn’t take it well even if all of it was untrue.
This isn’t a pro-Manson board yet we’re flooded with pro-Mansonite newfags (some, not all, pretending they’re not) as of late. If that isn’t telling you something then I don’t know… but his mega fans have been attacking everyone who says anything positive about
victims. pardon me for rather believing his minions and friends are coming here to post than Annie.
It’s also retarded as fuck that the one time I commented on one of her Instagram posts, I got flooded with messages from Mansonites. I’ll just say it: I admire her strength. Yes, I do.
You would think if she was lying, she would be disabling comments or even going private because she wouldn’t want her family and friends to find out “the truth”. She isn’t because they probably know the truth. She said she suggested to some of them to unfollow her but “half didn’t want to” so that probably means they’re willing to defend her and ignore the trolls.
When you dig deep, too many things align in her favor and make these fakes look more obviously fake. One of my comments from a couple of weeks ago on here was disparaging and I said I didn’t believe her. Last weekend I looked a bit into it. I decided to comment because one of the commenters claimed they received messages from Mansonites. I called bullshit so I commented. It didn’t even take 20 minutes to get the first message. After that, it was at least a dozen by the end of the day. If she was afraid of being “exposed”, she wouldn’t have a public page that shows who she follows and she wouldn’t allow commenting. When you put all these things together, it’s just too obvious it’s a case of someone coming out of trauma and understandably dealing badly with lies being spread about her.
All the stuff that smelled fishy to me made sense when I put myself in her shoes for a second. It’s foolish of his camp to keep releasing these because the only way for her to clean up her image and reputation now is to be more aggressive about pursuing this all the way to court. Her only other option is to drop it and the only thing that will remain of her digital footprint is what people are saying online. I started to see what she meant by she had nothing to lose anymore.
When it comes to these newfags, it’s not a good look to express yourself so defensively because your bias is showing. I’ve done everything to look into this and gain proper clarity because I felt disgusted that I was initially on her side and I felt deceived even though I didn’t know her. I take my hateful comments back because her situation from what I could gather makes sense and I’m at the very least open to giving her a fair chance to prove herself with the understanding that this can’t happen fast. Never in the history of rape cases without rape kits or evidence did this ever happen fast or go smoothly.
Can we move on to the next subject now and drop the Annie bullshit till there’s more milk? This is pointless and boring.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1184680
>>1184678I would think since she’s new in the
victim fold and her evidence whatever it is would be new and still
valid in court that they’d all pretend they don’t know her so that they can hit him unprepared. But it’s too late for that now because she does have the support and these people wouldn’t risk public humiliation by either reposting her, showing support for her or even worse unfollowing her now because the whole thing would seem too disorganized.
I do believe that she has at least something solid but I don’t think she has any proof of the rape itself. Most
victims wouldn’t if they didn’t do the rape kit. Time will tell but this will be a slow process. I don’t expect anything regarding the human trafficking investigation any time soon. Months probably. That’s a more serious crime than rape and it still has to be done right and that takes time. That’s what due process is.
No. 1184697
>>1184433I know you only spent 6 minutes on it but this doesn't even look remotely plausible lol.
I'm not convinced by these facebook screenshots but the writing is very similar to Annies style. Go further back in her instagram account and you'll see long posts which are more similar. If it's not her someone has done their research and invested a lot of time doing it.
I don't think manson has anything to do with it by the fact it hasn't happened to anyone else. It may be the work of these so called exes. Why anyone would put so much time into trying to make their friend look crazy is crazy in itself
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I don’t think she’s crazy but even if she was, based on the recordings and proof of established connection she provided, I do believe her about the rape fully. Manson followed her and liked a lot of her posts. I don’t think Manson even liked that many lindsay posts tbqh. When someone originally posted about Manson following Annie before she got rid of him, I remember he liked nearly every single post. We’re talking dozens. Casual connection? I don’t think so. Crazy or not, she’s his victim and I believe that part. No one deserves that.
No. 1184788
>>1184780“Why not take this to the police?”
There’s about 72583628363 articles explaining why it’s difficult for
victims to do this. As someone else said, she’s probably still building up her case with her legal team. Esme is doing the same thing with her human trafficking angle. This doesn’t happen overnight.
But as for why she does it, I feel awful to be honest. Not saying it’s easy for the more famous
victims but they have some public affairs training and can afford to pay for things that help them cope like better therapists. I don’t want to call her a nobody cause that seems hurtful but I can see her feeling somewhat stuck in this regard if she can’t afford world class therapy and if PA is paying for it I can still see the trauma being too fresh. I really, really don’t think it’s fair to judge someone’s coping when they had just gotten out of it. There is no way anyone would deal with it with grace, even famous people. Evan and Esme had one major advantage among many others and it’s that they had time to prepare. If this happened in august 2019 then that was after Evan did her original testimony right? So Evan had time since before Annie’s alleged rape even happened.
Come on. Some slack-cutting needs to be had otherwise you’re just straight up cold and psycho. This is assuming you’re willing to give her the benefit of doubt, of course. Mansonites will jump on this to firmly
not though lmfao
No. 1184789
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>>1184775Not deleted, just old.
No. 1184794
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I know it's a year later but Oct 9 2020 blonde
No. 1184796
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October 23 2020 in the red
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Have known Annie all my life. Family. She got me through one of worst breakups of my life when my ex girlfriend left me for some other guy. Instagram creeps brought me here. This is bull shit. Leave her alone. She’s one of the most welcoming and generous people I’ve ever met. I’m sure it’s easy to see her as this 2D Instagram personality but believe it there’s a real human in there and she’s hurting. Is this a forum of dedicated sociopaths or have you guys been hijacked by mansons pawns. Give her one break. We all trip and fall.
I hope if she’s reading this page she doesn’t hold it against me and if she does I’ll deal with that on my own terms. But looking back at her fb site she had plans to go back to red then. She done posts like these a few times because she is frustrated when she’s blonde a lot cause something about her red roots makes the experience not so great.
Just give her some room to breathe. It probably seems like it’s all fair when someone is public in any way but that shouldn’t be standard for victims. AFAIK she has no intentions to become public figure but in order to beat this guy, victims have no other choice. They have to go public or forever remain silent. She chose first one. I texted her asking permission to post this but she had not responded and it’s bed time for me. I won’t come back either and I hope I’m not being a shitty person here but she doesn’t deserve this so I thought I would come because it’s the 7th time someone sent me links to this place.
Grant her some room to gather her things please. Ban her name here unless she has something important to share. If she was looking for fame that would be different but I am certain she isn’t.
Her family is getting threats. Her dads boss got an email accusing her dad of things he hasn’t done. Her brother who is 15 years younger had to convince someone at his college that what’s being spread about his family isn’t true. Stop contributing to so much pain and rise above it. She doesn’t deserve this.
And those posts are fake. they have nothing to do with reality. She doesn’t post personals like that. People believe stuff like that? We her family deserve peace. Annie wants justice but no punishment should be given for that. She’s no liar.
No. 1184829
>>1184807Wtf is this?
Give her space? Family is getting death threats? People are talking about her at her 20ish year old brothers college? Do kids that age even know who MM is or care to follow this??
Maybe it would benefit her to keep writing but under a private account if she doesn't want the publicity.
I'm out on the Annie belief 100% now until further notice, err milk. I just can't.
No. 1184835
>>1184829Cool story. That’ll show her. How does whether her gen z brother know about Manson or not matter? A threat is a threat. If a fam member of hers got several links to this place out of nowhere and they felt hurt because one of their fam members is hurting, that’s fair. Not everyone is proficient in internet lingo.
FUCK I miss this place the way it used to be. Even if you’re not a newfag, I’d like to think that we were all cunty but still managed to exhibit basic empathy. There’s virtually no reason for me to believe the Mansonites over her. None. She’s given us some
valid evidence of their connection. They’ve given us shitty screenshots that look like a parody.
I’m becoming more convinced each day that Mansonites are being pranked and that this is one way to tear them down and discredit their claims. Like if they post something as retarded as the fake Annie posts, they lose every bit of credibility because they’re clinging to it so hard. I might even be onto something here. How can anyone be this retarded?
No. 1184997
>>1184743Did she delete this post?
I can't find it.
No. 1185047
>>1184475Nevermind. I just heard the Permission to Speak podcast with Evan and was reminded that she didn't even admit she was raped to herself until years later, so I doubt she ever confronted or confided in Brian.
Brian was likely lying to Annie about 'Into the Fire' - wish I could hear what he says in the recording to understand what he was trying to achieve with that bullshit story. Probably trying to sound sympathetic and make it seem like the song isn't just about him being a whiny babydick on Christmas morning.
No. 1185116
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Manson tying up a naked women during a concert show in front of hun
dreds of fans.
No. 1185118
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marilyn Manson tying up a naked women during a concert show in front of hundreds of fans
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3rd photo of Manson tying up a naked women during a concert show in front of hundreds of fans
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4th photo Manson tying up a naked women during a concert show in front of hundreds of fans
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5th photo marilyn Manson tying up a naked women during a concert show in front of hundreds of fans
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6th photo of Marylin Manson tying up a naked women during a concert show in front of hundreds of fans.
No. 1185164
>>1185124Isn't it Missi?
She was his gf. Like ^ said it is just theatrics. But it shows the tendency though.
No. 1185270
>>1184807I’m so sorry it has come to this. Most people wouldn’t act that way in real life. I can’t imagine being different online but some people have obsessive personalities and harass like it’s not a big deal. It makes me wonder if at my company of over 100 employees, there’s a few I chat with every day who lead a double life online where they harass and bully.
I hope she has all the help and support she clearly needs right now. It sounds like she does and I’m glad to hear that her family is standing by her. It can’t be easy.
Just thought I’d say not everyone here thinks that way or does those things. I’m not one for drama and I’m certain I’d deal with this situation in a worse way than she is. It’s easy for some folks to judge from afar. She has my support and I hope she doesn’t give up. There’s good reasons why she’s so attacked as she is. Holding such recent recordings alone is a big deal and they all know it. Keep that in mind and keep moving forward. You got this! Wishing the best to you all.
No. 1185288
>>1185284are you dumb or something?
Fucking sage, this is not milk, firstly, it is old and it was discussed many threads ago with a ton of receipts. Secondly, that girl was featured in a documentary about the band and she said she enjoyed the experience.
It feels like you are distracting attention from the evil things he's really done.
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>>1185431
Not her fault one bit. Easy to say things like that from the comfort of your home. I’m amazed she’s as articulate and calm about it as she is. Just because she writes a bunch doesn’t mean she’s crazy in any way. Victim shaming like this is so gross. Just show yourself out because you’re scum.
I don’t think there’s any way to say that the matching Evan/Annie stories are a coincidence anymore either. And more often than not it’s Annie who posts it first. PA supports her. So do I. Incoming “ok Annie”, I know.
People like you really disgust me. You’d never say that to someone you knew in person no matter how badly they handled it. Your the real psychos.
No. 1185535
>>1185116>"manson tying up a naked woman"You have to love the passive language which denies the woman any agency.
The woman was his girlfriend dipshit. It was her idea to involve herself in these performances.
I swear gen z are just as stupid and prudish as white, church going boomers.
No. 1185908
Please do something about the Manson thread, it is beyond ridiculous. It is full of retards who keep samefagging and think nobody's gonna notice that.
Please ban every single anon who keeps posting about Annie. I don't care if they are mansonites or Annie's defenders, all of them are top cringe and seem to be mentally disturbed.
That one anon aka "my husband abused me" also known as "my mom is a narc" and currently going under "my sister and aunt are schizophrenic" must be banned forever. She's insufferable.
If there are people who claim to be Annie's sister, mother, dog, etc, they need to be checked and marked, if they are trolls, they need to be banned for good.
Ban mansonites and ban Annie's sockpuppets. While I didn't expect much from Manson's fans, I am much more shocked by Annie spergers, and I CANNOT believe there are any sane anons who can keep posting about Annie that persistently, the thread really doesn't need these pathetic newfags (I bet this is Annie or somebody she asked to but I will never know because farmhands will never check IPs of the posters).
I also do not understand how come that it's a known fact that the cow is aware of the thread and most likely left a few posts and the most suspicious posters were not checked by farmhands. A nude photo of Manson's wife was posted several threads ago, it had never been posted anywhere before and nobody even tried to check the poster. Now we have two more private pics of Manson and guess what? Nothing has been done, the posters haven't been marked.
Annie came to the last thread and most likely she keeps posting about herself. Not a single post has been marked.
Now we have her "family" (KEK) come to the thread and ask to keep believing in Annie (LIKE WTF) and trust her while, let me remind you, THIS IS THE MANSON THREAD, THIS IS NOT "LET'S PRAY FOR MANSON'S VICTIMS" THREAD. And guess what? It's been over a hundred posts since admin visited the thread, do you know how many posts are about manson? no more than 10. It is unbelievable how "farmers" can absolutely ignore the official request from admin and keep posting delusional bullshit without any consequences. And now there are some newfags who pretend to bring milk that was discussed a million years ago.
Why is that such a hard decision to close the thread?
No. 1185911
This is dedicated to anon whose mother was a narcissist
Healing From A Narcissistic Mother
Ever since I can remember, I grew up thinking something was wrong with me.
My mother disliked me, and she made sure I knew it.
My parents earned a combined salary of over 400k a year, we lived in a small mining town with our house, cars and bills paid for by the company my dad works for, but I started working at a fast food joint from the age of 13 while I was still in high school. I went to a private school, always winning awards and acing classes and I never had any problems making friends.
Somehow, no matter how many friends I made, how many awards I won, and how independent I was (I started having to pay for my own stuff when I got a job), my mother always hated me. Of course, I grew up thinking there was something wrong with me.
She enjoyed excluding me from the rest of the family (when I was 14, she told me I had to do my own laundry from now on. She would do everyone else's laundry, except mine…) and she would serve up dinner for everyone in the family, but tell me to get my own. My younger brother was always favoured, but I never resented him for it. He understood that what my mum was doing was unfair, and I understood that is was not his fault.
Despite having wonderful grades, a standing offer from UNSW (as I participated in a wide array of their writing and English tests) and teachers who constantly assured me that I would go far, my mother pulled me out of school at the age of 16 in Year 11. My teachers, school counsellor, and vice principal all attempted to contact my mother and to encourage her to re-assess, and every day, I watched as she deleted their voicemails from our home phone - their pleas interrupted halfway.
Being a stubborn bitch, I wouldn't let something as petty as a high-school diploma get in the way of my dreams. I relentlessly applied to universities on my own (with my mum scoffing at me and telling me universities wouldn't accept a 16 year old drop-out) - sending letters to heads of schools and Deans from a little country town and calling them on my lunch breaks at work. Because of this, I entered tertiary education at the age of 17 while my peers were finishing high school.
When I turned 18, my mother who works for a bank, got me to take out a credit card and a loan under my name. She somehow convinced me that it was so I can help my 9 year old cousin with a brain tumor pay for medical bills. In the end, my mother emptied all the money from my account and I am still left paying for her debts under my name.
She must always be the centre of attention. She insisted on throwing lavish engagement party for my then-fiance and I, and bragged about what a wonderful mother she is, but she fails to mention that she still owes me at least 30k and she pocketed all my university allowances while I juggled university and part-time work.
Last Christmas, at a festive gathering with friends and families, she wanted a photo taken of her and her friends. She called me over and announced "fatty, come over here and take our photo." I am only 51kgs and barely a size 8-10.
As I grew up, found my loving husband, and talked with some mental health professionals, it became apparent that while I now have depression and anxiety from her actions, the real problem lies in her exploitative narcissistic personality disorder.
But sometimes, I still think "why me?" and I catch myself feeling jealous of my husband with his wonderfully loving and nurturing mother.
As my husband and I start planning for future children, I am gripped by fear and anxiety that I will be just like my mother.
This journey to healing is so painful and slow, and sometimes, I wonder if I will ever even heal at all.
If anyone has any tips, insights or words of encouragement, it would mean the world to me.
No. 1185913
Dedicated to narc mothered anon
Hi @june
It was painful and sad to read how your mother treated you - I could only imagine how painful it is for you. Sending a warm hug.
I also experienced an abusive childhood (my mother the abuser) - not quite the same as what your mother did; my mother snapped and was violent (an attempt on my life), was cold and I received no love, just put downs and neglect. And yes it does have it effects (I went off the rails when young). But no, it does not have to control or ruin the rest of our lives. Healing is possible.
The worst damage done to me was believing I had no value as a result. Why didn't my mother love me?? Why wasn't I worth it?? Whyyy???? This played out in so many ways for years through anxiety and depression. And occasionally I can still feel it's pang, the pain but it doesn't control me.
I felt insecure - not safe. And left with low self esteem/confidence as a result. Then I realised it wasn't me with the problem - it was my mother. So I disowned any labels of worthlessness and disconnected from my past emotionally - looking forward, not back. Reinventing myself from within. It's the quality of the relationships and what I do now with my life that matters. That's the focus. That is who I am. It's making that distinction and letting go. Disconnecting emotionally/mentally
You will never be like your mother. You are too aware of the pain and hurt that occurs. You care - she did not. That is the big difference. You would be more protective if anything. You have a loving husband - see yourself through his eyes. That is you.
Dont be jealous of his loving relationship with his mother - become part of it. Get to know her and allow her in. That would be healing for you - you are all now a family. Family is those who love you and are there for you - not necessarily always blood relatives.
You managed to excel academically, in the workforce and create a successful, loving relationship. If anything your mother brought out your resolve, your determination, your strength. Well done you! - believe in you and move forward and let not the past hold you back. It's good to talk about the pain, the scars at some stage (this is your time) so as to allow yourself to fully grieve which has been bottled up for too long - then you can let it go and move on.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1185982
>>1185908Everything and everyone is Annie. Annie has taken over the board. Annie is probably lolcow itself. Careful, there may be an Annie in your coffee too. Better double check to make sure.
Give me a break nonsaging newfag. You tried.
No. 1186007
>>1185982This
>>1185908 was copypasted from meta by
>>1185911 calm your tits sis.