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No. 292628
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Autumn/Fall is overrated
Spring is underrated
No. 292703
>>292697>proving them rightNeither of those happen often enough for it to be an issue.
>>292700Women are worse. Look at the state of female dominated fandoms. At this point I'd rather hang out with the lolicons and waifufags.
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Iron Fist is good.
No. 292721
>>292710>proving me rightI like how you have no real rebuttal and resort to calling me a "truly pathetic woman" over my preferences. I bet you call yourself a feminist as well despite sounding like the type of man you complain about. Probably a radfem. You're part of the problem.
Really though, men just tell me my taste is shit and move on. It's women actively trying to control me in a lot of aspects these days. 4th wave feminism in a nutshell, really.
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Every unpopular opinion thread becomes a competition to swallow the most bait.
No. 292745
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No one looks good with blonde hair. I have no idea why it is fetishized so much. Take a look at every blonde who has dyed their hair darker, they always look better.
No. 292757
>>292745This. I only looked attractive as a bleach blonde when I did my makeup. As a dark brunette I found I could get away with little to no makeup.
Blonde without makeup I looked washed out and shit. Unless you wear makeup allllll the time or happen to be an extremely pale albino type with natural features that compliment blonde hair (aka someone like Tilda swinton), blonde doesn't suit that many people. It looks ridiculous with dark features. Black eyebrows and blonde hair only works if a) you are cosplaying as kaleesi or b) you have streaks or roots or something indicating it's not your natural colour or c)you are trying to achieve a weird model runway look with dark eyebrows and light hair.
But yeah I totally agree anon. It looks shit on majority of peeps. I hate how dudes will automatically gravitate towards a blonde and sometimes it doesn't even matter how attractive she is. A friend of mine would always get ignored over her platinum blonde friend when they went out drinking, even though she was the more attractive one in my opinion. They automatically think blonde equals easy
No. 292769
>>292759My partner tends to favour brunettes which is super rare because 2 guys I dated prior were weirdly obsessed with blondes to the point that one of them even insisted I bleach my hair. (I didnt)
All the girls my current partner seems to think are attractive I've noticed are very dark haired women like Eva Green. I will say how pretty certain blonde actresses are and he doesn't seem to care whatsoever. He reckons Jlaw and Emilia Clarke both look hotter as brunettes. The only one that we have a mutual agreement on that she looks better as a blonde is Scarlett Johanson. She looks good as a brunette and redhead but blonde suits her in my opinion.
Oh and by the way this is when we are watching movies and commenting on the actors looks randomly, not me being insecure and asking him how pretty they are or anything like that, just to clarify.
No. 292774
>>292758What's wrong with this, though? Why are all women so damn baby crazy? That's literally what's holding our entire gender back, is our obsession with babies.
>>292747Condoms break. Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy for women, and it never should be. Same goes for men. Consent to sex is not consent to fatherhood.
No. 292779
>>292777Consent to sex shouldn't be consent to 18 years of financial slavery just because the woman needs the attention having a baby/being a mom will give her.
We as women should collectively shame mothers who do this kind of thing. It's bad for the kid and the sperm donor, and it makes us look like untrustworthy greedy cunts. It's insanely selfish to have a kid when the father doesn't want anything to do with it, and disgustingly selfish to expect him to pay you for 18 years just so you could get what you wanted (a baby and the attention that comes with it).
No. 292791
>>292779Personally I think a man should always take into account the risk of pregnancy with every sexual encounter. Don't stick your dick in anything if you can't deal with the possibility of things going wrong.
If a woman deceives a man about being on BC(or something like that in general) though, that's a different story.
>We as women>cuntsI am almost 100% sure whoever wrote this is a man.
No. 292795
>>292779>financial slavery Yeah, 100 dollars a month for a human being you co-created really is so much to ask. Oh my god, those poor men.
Why do you want to strip men of all responsibility just to shovel it on mothers? And you know it's not uncommon for men to completely forget about the children they abandoned just to have more kids with another woman. Who said the womam consented to raising a child on her own?
No. 292796
>>292794>I'm a girl>women only get pregnant for attention!!Uh okay
As you said, both are responsible, but you're trying to claim the man is 100% not responsible at all if he doesn't choose to be, women pay the price either way, so why shouldn't men? They both had a part in baby making therefore they both have a part in child-raising
>>292795This. Men tend to be extremely manipulative, they'll play the "oh don't worry baby I'll take care of this" card, walk out at last minute and of course people mob-shame the woman
No. 292802
>>292779I'm sorry that biology is unfair, but men will never have to run the risk of pregnancy or ever being pregnant, the fact that it changes your body forever, can absolutely wreck your emotional health, and often times lead to death. So men can deal with paying for child support.
If a man is 100% confident that he never, ever, ever wants to have a child and be a father, then it is his responsibility to use a condom during every sexual act, get sterilized, and make sure that every woman he sleeps with is on the same page as him when it comes to a potential accidental pregnancy.
If a man doesn't want to do any of those things because "but what if she doesn't want to have sex with me after :(" or "but i hate how condoms feel", then he shouldn't have sex. Period, end of story.
Except in instances where a woman deliberately lied or messed with her birth control (which is EXTREMELY rare, despite what MGTOW say), I have zero sympathy for men who whine about child support.
No. 292865
>>292786You're right about single mothers being horrible in the UK, so entitled and most of them are chavy estate slags who got knocked up by their druggie ex and leech off the government, what's worse is that they think shitting out their little hell spawns gives them some sort of right to just be shitty towards people, I work in retail and some of the most entitled and abusive customers I've had were always single mothers pulling the single mum card to try to get discounts and free shit, no shame, honestly I agree with this anon
>>292779 single mothers are the worst
No. 292867
>>292822I agree, never really met a single person who agrees with me on this
I have light blueish green eyes and I've always wished my eyes were brown. Anytime I say it people don't believe me and then say "but your eyes are gorgeous and unique, brown eyes are boring." I like to wear brown circle lenses and it especially upsets my parents, for some reason (both of whom have green eyes and think green eyes are some sort of gift from god). I really don't think blue and green eyes are pretty, especially not people with those super light watery blue Scandinavian eyes. They look like soulless nightmare creatures.
No. 292882
>>292759I think it's been shown in multiple studies that men find singular sources of "sexual" stimuli enough to
trigger their own feelings of sexual desire. There doesn't necessarily need to be an entire human in the picture, just breasts or a butt is the enough.
For men with paraphilias, singular sexual stimuli are the ONLY thing that activates sexual desire.
They are truly primitive.
No. 292895
>>292744How many men can just peace out and leave the mother behind with a fetus growing inside her because they can?? they deserve to pay their life savings away.
There was a security guard in my building who knocked up two women and now he has to pay child support for them both. Then he has the nerve to call them crazy, money hungry bitches. please. No sympathy.
No. 292902
>>292799i agree with this opinion. I have two friends who had kids and it's all their talk about. My other mom even became a stay at home mom and her fb feed is what you'd imagine– filled with every moment of her child. Not trying to shame her, but why do these mombies feel the need to constantly overshare publically?
>Little jimmy took his first shit todayI don't care, Linda!
No. 292903
>>292820Nah, they're all trash imo
>>292828Yup, because they think women only make a living off their looks or some bullshit, and to pander to men.
No. 292904
>>292894Same tbh, it's been happening a lot, I'm russian neet anon and this bitch has been completely obsessed with me just because she got in a fight with me, when I try to explain to her that just because she disagreed with me once doesn't mean I'm trying to conspire against her she loses her shit and swears up and down how she knows it's me despite none of the people she accused of being me, was me
It's completely insane and kinda disturbing, I know a lot of people here are obsessive but damn
No. 292915
>>292895Men think just because they were born men by chance means they deserve the world to be sucking their dick and women should be the ones paying the price
Just look at how fast men are to cry oppression when a man gets punished, or even better go out of their way to point out a woman in the situation and blame it on her
Like the watts case, how many people demanded the mistresses name be put out their and insisting all of it was her fault and not the guy who you know, did the killing anr cheating
No. 292952
>>292697I came from 4chan and happened across a thread asking for a female dominated alternative
The guys on the site are a whole different level of pathetic and it got boring listening to them whine about no one wanting to fuck their swamp asses
No. 292955
>>292949I agree with you except for
>some think they can literally drive in the laneI follow traffic laws. You won't find me in the rightmost lane for right turns and I'm trying to make a left turn. Drivers don't seem to care enough about my hand signals for this to be safe for me.
No. 292975
>>292949Personally I just hate driving by bikers because I'm paranoid that I'm going to hit them or fuck up with them in some other way. I'm a pretty shit driver even though I try to be a good one.
In other countries I've visited they put the bike lanes by where the pedestrians are, I think that's a much better system than what the US has.
No. 292982
>>292721>i-i'm not like other girls!!You're literally retarded. You probably call yourself an anti-feminist and spends all day sucking incel dick on the internet for validation. You're part of the problem. Fucking tradthots.
Unpopular opinion: I think the internet is very, very boring nowadays. Even what used to be interesting sites like 4chan are dying down and becoming just useless, unfunny trolling. If i see one more post about summoning a succubus on /x/ i might explode.
No. 292988
>>292982
>Unpopular opinion: I think the internet is very, very boring nowadays. Even what used to be interesting sites like 4chan are dying down and becoming just useless, unfunny trolling.I agree. It seems like the internet became much more homogeneous around 2011-2012 with very popular sites that have millions of users like youtube, twitter, tumblr, facebook, instagram, etc. reaching a critical mass in size and influence. It doesn't help that Google and other popular search engines have skewed search results towards sites that pay them in ad revenue or whose owners have registered with Google Plus. I miss typing something into search and finding offbeat small forums and weird personal blogs related to the subject. I found a lot of cool websites, some of which I still visit today, that way.
I wish forums would make a comeback as a popular style of website. There don't seem to be any large and active ones under five years old. The loosely moderated back and forth you'd get with people and some of the eccentrics they'd attract was a ton of fun.
No. 293004
>>292987I second this. I think humans are really good at picking out when someone has altered something about their physical appearance. its not quite uncanny valley, but something leaning towards it
The only time I cant quite tell is with koreans because it seems like many are attempting achieve a similar aesthetic, like v shaped chins and delicate nose, so its pretty much the norm
No. 293012
>>292988I really dislike facebook groups taking over fan communities. There is no sense of community even though people are not anonymous. Random posts are so much worse than threads that stay active forever and that you can read from start to finish at any time. Evertything is so scattered…
The bad thing is that I do not feel the need to join the few boards alive because it's useless. There are barely any users there anyway. Kiwifarms and certain popstar fanboards are the only ones that I know and that are going strong for being forums in 2018.
No. 293018
>>292982I think a lot of people agree. Is because the internet is so centralized and corporate now, also way more normies.
Reddit is slowly rolling out a terrible redesign. It is obvious people will reject it. It will be Digg all over again. I'm wondering where everyone will go. I half suspect 4chan will see lots of refugees. Maybe even placed like lolcow and crystal.cafe if they got enough word out. Which could be bad or good but I'm predicting a major upset in the internet landscape sometime soon.
No. 293026
>>293021>I can't fathom how they could shit out a layout worse than the current one.I thought I was the only one. Their layout is so fucking bad that I can't even look at it. I used to stumble upon some reddit threads while searching for beauty products and the entire look of the site gave me a headache. How people use it on a regular basis or even
enjoy it is beyond me.
No. 293032
>>293023you seem personally insulted and projecting quite a bit onto my post without actually reading through the whole thing
>timid driverjust say bad, anon
No. 293141
>>293021It's odd at first but you quickly get used to it. FB is just awful but it's not the layout that's the problem, mostly how they prioritize posts.
They are far worse things out there.
Like how every news site or whatever are now "slideshow" mode where you have to click next and get an ad in between every page, instead of just scrolling down. Those are the truly awful offenders.
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>>293176>mfw anon spends so much time on lc she actually turns into onionget help, anon
No. 293185
>>293180lol, and who are you that makes you so much more valuable, mother teresa? are you washing the feet of the poor in calcutta and that allows you to make this judgement and call people with families, lives, careers, albeit addictions and struggles, 'useless'?
working for your shitty boss and having a functional relationship with your family doesn't make you anymore valuable lol
No. 293188
>>293185Zero respect/sympathy for people who use dangerous drugs to run from their problems. Therapy exists. Go to therapy and deal with your demons rather than running away. You're better off dead than being a junkie forever. Even the "functional" junkies I know, do nothing but cause their entire families heartbreak and suffering. Are their families sad if/when they die from an inevitable OD? Yeah, but it breaks the continuous cycle, and they eventually stop grieving. Having a family member on heroin is like watching them kill themselves every single day.
You sound like a
triggered junkie though.
No. 293223
>>293195That's too bad. Just remember that your personal experiences don't make a hard and fast rule. I've been to NA and AA meetings with people who have 20+ years of sobriety under their belt. My own mother is one of those people (and personally I'm currently 2 years sober.) They are huge inspirations for people with addiction problems trying to get better.
Though it is a very tough road and some sadly fail, that doesn't discount all those people who've been through hell and back fighting their own addictions and coming out on top.
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I imagine Lola Bunny from Space Jam would look like Saweetie with blond hair and blue contacts IRL.
No. 293446
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I think every cosplayer involved in the Momokun Saga is cringy.
Also some of them need to stop obviously posting on her threads, especially complimenting themselves.
No. 293490
>>293446Cosplayers are shitty attention whores and ten bucks says all the posters and lurkers there could have their own snow thread.
Hid that piece of shit thread ages ago.
No. 293527
>>293516Yeah but if you criticise any person people have to leap onto ‘it’s because racism!! You hate all the black people!’
Like, no..I haven’t even fucking met them all how can I hate them all?
No. 293533
>>293530Wat
And I thought white women had the highest standards out of women of all races, but incels will just look for something to bitch about so no matter if all women begged to suck incel dick or were prudes who didn't even hug a man until she knew he was 100% right for her they'd scream and cry
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>>293500>>293509Why are you people so obsessed with us? This thread was going just fine until you decided to start racebaiting. I don't see why you feel the need to be so aggressive and divisive toward other women. What do you gain from this? A confidence boost from picking apart an entire other race of women? I just can't relate.
And of course, if any black anon dares to respond in turn, or if one had ever said something like this, period, there would be at least two white anons to lament all the white bashing on LC and how unfair it all is. It just strikes me as hypocritical and pathetic.
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I hate that in so many cultures, it's fine to wear shorts that barely cover your asshole, or even thigh-high boots, but the act of wearing stockings in public is considered scandalous and people talk shit. And now it seems like certain women think of them as "tranny wear" which is just fucking dumb.
I never cared if it was seen as weeby (honestly, I am kind of a weeb. I love J-fashion, and I prefer wearing things that make me feel happy and could signal my interests so it's easier to make friends), it's just all these other associations that irritate me.
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>>293548Ass cheeks hanging out of shorts is some trailer trash fashion and I can’t believe people actually think it looks good.
Sort of related, those cold shoulder tops look like shit 100% of the time. Why are so many women wearing such ugly stuff?
No. 293552
>>293540NTA, but notice this only ever happens when some people brings up non-white girls out of nowhere, anon. No one would be talking about how white women view Asian women if certain anons would stop going on about how Asian/black/brown girls are totally this or that in the first place.
Just live your life. Our real enemy is incels anyway.
No. 293553
>>293550I hate in trailer parks wearing ripped up tanks and torn up shorts is the norm, so when someone wears something clean and not like they just got done with yard work they'll get "what fancy place you going" stares
Don't judge me pls but I spent my childhood and teen years in a hick town, when I got into fashion anytime I refused to wear anything not trashy people would think I'm some rich upper class person going to a meeting lol, you can literally just wear a sweater and jeans and people will think you're a billionaire, its crazy
No. 293583
>>293548I hate it too. I kinda get it, it's particularly attractive to certain men because it's the suggestion of lewd rather than the outright skimpiness of sluttier clothes, but it's still so fucking arbitrary.
>>293550Good choice of a picture because lately I've been thinking that jean shorts cut off mid thigh are the ugliest pants ever. They are flattering on literally nobody, on someone with a perfect body they look dowdy, on someone with a normal or fat body they are frumpy and hideous as fuck. No particular sense of style has ever inspired their use, they are only ever worn when someone doesn't give a fuck.
No. 293621
>>293583The pants combo is what made it the worst shirt pic I could find. There’s nothing good for that model to work with in the outfit pictured. They’re hideous shirts and hideous pants.
>>293553Honestly I grew up with the same crap and just accepted the stares and questions. Rather be the best dressed hick they think is snobby than any more like crystal from the strip club and her trailer full of shitty kids. Love yourself anon. Wear decent clothes and be better than the hicks. (For real though I get it, they go crazy like you think you’re a starlet if you have actual shoes on, not just flip flops or slippers. Can’t wait to accidentally step on a diabetes-gangrenous or frostbitten toe to be honest and an edgy edgelord.
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>>293500You know that Naomi Osaka is half-black right?
>>293548Yes! This has been bothering me for years. I've always loved the look of skirts+thigh socks, it's really cute plus it keeps you warm without wearing tights (which are uncomfortable as shit) but whenever I wore that combination I'd get THE rudest stares from people, especially strangers and my friend called it ''slutty looking''.
If I
hadn't worn the socks and just the skirt alone no one would've had a problem, even if it was quite short.
I think it's because where I'm from, a lot of people associate thigh-high socks with stripper attire for some reason. But they're starting to be slightly more accepted because IG fashion has hopped on the bandwagon and ruined it like it does with everything else.
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>>293550Cold shoulder has the potential to look cute with the right style and fabric, but that thin material that clings to your body with random big chunks missing makes it look trashy
Theres nothing worse than seeing a cute shirt and then realizing its got stupidly placed holes in the shoulders
No. 293645
>>293622>>293548Holy shit yes. Are you me.
I love wearing knee or thigh high socks but don't like the weird sexual thing about it.
I found the above knee socks with trainers, shorts and tshirt or oversized hoodie is the most comfortable. You don't get as much stares because it looks more sporty. I feel way more self conscious wearing long socks with dresses or skirts but I like how it looks. I think people stare at that combo more creepily from the whole school girl fantasy thing.
It also attracts weebs
No. 293834
>>293827Both.
Boys are conditioned to desire to become cute moe anime girls uwu
and girls are conditoned to be more attracted to other girls, fakeboys in case its Yaoi, than they normally would be.
No. 293916
>>293907Exactly, that's why it's so frustrating when people who are fussy complain!
Like unless someone is literally forcing you to eat something that disgusts you, don't complain about it, don't come out to dinner and then bitch that there's nothing on the menu you like, it's so fucking disrespectful.
No. 293932
>>293916I absolutely agree. Adult picky eaters seriously upset me. It's just whiny and selfish, and the ultimate form of immaturity. Unfortunately here in Burgerland I'd say roughly 1/5 of adults are ridiculously picky. Hell, a lot of people who love to say how NOT picky they are, end up being super picky (no mushrooms! no fish! no olives! I hate 5+ common vegetables! No "weird" spices! Oooh two red pepper flakes is TOO SPICY). Honestly, maybe it's just where I live particularly in Burgerland, but from boomers to gen z, picky fucks abound. In fact it seems to be the default, not super picky as in only tendies and fries, but to have a gigantic list of "no" foods. It seems like a good third of people at any given time, or more, hate fish and mushrooms??? it's so pathetic
No. 293950
>>293021I liked the old plebbit layout, it was simplistic in a slightly old-timey internet way. The current one is disgusting though, I have to type old.reddit.com/r/name of subreddit every time instead, I can't stand to look at that autoscrolling mess.
Fuck sites that autoscroll in general. Fuck you, I want to bookmark the page I'm on, not just scroll for a fucking year to get back where I was.
No. 294031
>>293894I think the obsession with pizza comes from conditioning, ever since we were children on fun school days we would get pizza, usually thoughout preteen and teen years kids will order pizza at sleepovers
I don't think it's the actual taste of pizza, rather the memories that come with it
No. 294078
>>294074i think that's just a symptom of any "ism". you replace the ideas and philosophies of the ideology with your own personal ones, and it colors all your experiences. it muddies your perception and blinds you from seeing anything that doesn't fit perfectly into the ideology. that's why i respect feminism as a philosophy but would rather not think of
myself as a feminist. in any given situation, i want to have a chance at being in touch with my true feelings and ideas, not just "how can i view this with a feminist lense?" or "what's a feminist way to approach this?"
No. 294105
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Short women are hideous.
They creep me out so bad with their dwarfy bodies, big faces and sausage fingers/toes. I don't get how 'uwu sm0l loli' became such a meme when even idols, aka GOD TIER SHORT WOMEN, have uglier features than the average normal woman.
No. 294299
>>294105I was agreeing with you until
>even idols, aka GOD TIER SHORT WOMEN, have uglier features than the average normal womanNo. They're beautiful. The right thing to say would be:
>even idols, aka GOD TIER SHORT WOMEN, try to appear tall because a long and slender figure is objectively prettier than a short stumpy one.'uwu sm0l' is only a meme because men are insecure.
No. 294348
>>294314Coconut oil is a literal meme, unhealthy as hell, especially when digested.
>>294105Yeah, only very slim short women can be cute. Normal weight with a bit of chub already spreads awkwardly and an actual overweight bmi quickly looks hamplanet tier.
>>294326Well, not beaten, but a slap or pulling the hair a little (not hard) should be considered ok as a last resort when nothing else works and the kid is still acting like a shithead. In my country you'll have your kids taken anyway for this though kek. Needless to say, we have a lot of shittily raised, selfish, I'm-the-center-of-the-universe kids in here.
No. 294415
>>294397I use it in my skincare routine. I obviously can't speak for everyone, but it's made my face much clearer and my PIE's faded.
I've seen people complain coconut oil has made them break out, but that's never happened for me.
I don't know why people don't just accept that different skin types have different reactions to substances, like
>>294414 said.
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No matter how good-looking someone is, unnaturally colored hair always ruins the look.
Also, balayages are ugly for the most part.
When the contrast between roots/overall hair and tips is very minimal it looks pretty cute, but otherwise it's just so off-putting to me for some reason.
No. 294441
>>294105This stinks of insecurity. Seek help.
>>294326You too. Spanking is fine, as long as it's not spanking so hard it leaves bruises. But hitting kids is just plain stupid.
No. 294607
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>>294600nta but lorelai is so needy and codependent. relies on her daughter for emotional support even though she has other adult female friends, always jumping from man to man to help make her life easier even if she's not actively in love, and instead of just distancing herself from her parents because she's an adult, her attitude is like "ughhhh i'm struggling it's because you didn't support me enough growing up :/ oh but i don't want your HELP though! god! don't you know i'm an independent inn owner despite all the odds?! muh inn muh teenage runaway years" it's not that it isn't relatable and sympathetic, it definitely is, but yeah a little pathetic.
rory's blonde boyfriend was pretty cucky too. logan i think?
No. 294611
>>294607I thought GG was great in how they wrote characters. When they wrote annoying, I enjoyed that it came off annoying. But Lorelai needed some more gap-filling development after her, I don't know, four broken engagements/marriages.
Logan was pretty cucky. I think that's the best way to describe him. Have you seen Year in the Life? You know, where him and Rory are…
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>>294611i did see it and they took everything that mildly annoyed me about lorelai in the original show and amped it up to be way worse. i watched the original show when i was like 14 and thought lorelai was great and wished she was my mom but seeing her with an adult's perspective reveals her flaws. i think the show was well written too. characters were archetypal but not cartoonish. they all had things about them to make them truly relatable and complex that set them apart from characters in other shows with the same archetype.
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>>294607i thought lorelai was kind of bratty but a good mother tbh. i don't think she was that desperate for a man. it seemed like just kept them around for attention but kept them relatively distanced tbh.
and what was cucky about logan? he was skeezy, if anything. not cucky at all, imo. though i think rory has the charisma and charm of a moldy manilla folder, rory deserved waywayway better than all of her bfs.
what REALLY pissed me off about gg, tbh, was the way rory was constantly praised for being so talented, but we were literally never shown any of her talents or even really developed an emotional connection to her at all, or at least, i didn't. she had very little personality. emily and lorelai were both lively and multi-faceted women (that were such great characters), and rory was just… there, but received 1000000x more praise and admiration than emily or lorelai despite being such a bore. she was the most flat character with no passion for anything but 'reading' (allegedly) to the point where we couldn't go thru an episode without hearing from everyone in stars hollow and everywhere else, about how she's the second coming of christ. there was no excitement in her voice about anything, really. you'd think she'd had clinical depression, ffs.
also kind of annoyed me the way they made it seem like rory was such an underdog child when realistically, her grandparents would've done anything for her and lorelai (even if not on ideal terms). most 'poor' underprivileged children and grandchildren don't have a cushion of literal multimillionaire parents and grandparents that will do anything for you to fall back on.
i remember emily said once about her (about some scholarship or s/t) "no one could deserve it more than rory!!!" like, just, so ridiculous and delusional.
saged for gg sperging, i just have so many feelings about it
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>>294626
Rory was always a spoiled brat to me. She always got everything she wanted, her personality was literally just looking cute and she always got away with everything because she's sorry about messing up/ didn't know any better. I mean she slept with another girl's husband KNOWING he was married and was then made a victim because the guy's mother-in-law was pissed at her and Lorelai defended her because look at how sad about it she is! Then her grandparents bought her everything she wanted because she was a good girl, let her NEET around at their place because she's just "trying to find herself", she got everything she wanted and she was still unhappy.
Meanwhile Paris was always the butt monkey of the show yet she ended up being ten times more successful because she's not a little bitch.
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>>294633tbh i dont see anything wrong with NEETing it up if you don't know what you want, the problem is that she never appreciated anything, really, and went out of her way to ruin shit for other people, then act like such an innocent victim all of the time. and seriously, if rory was just an average tubby girl everyone would've been telling her what a worthless, boring sack of shit she is/was, but her entire personality was literally "she likes reading and is so cute ^.^".
>>294637glad they called her out for being a shitty person, but this is such a dumb theory and these two are super stupid for not seeing that rory didn't even seem remotely perfect in the original series. she was worse in the original series, even, imo. she was fraught with flaws, imo, to the point of aggravation, they just never framed it like that bc she was supposed to be the cute, baby genius shy girl. fuck, even april, as insufferable as she was, had more personality to her. rory seemed like such a huge mary sue, but instead of for like, male attn, just, attention and praise in general.
is there a tv thread? would anyone like a thread for gilmore girls or tv or something? tbh i love gg and there's so much to dissect imo. i especially want to talk about that fuuucking ending that was soooo formulaic and painful, esp to think ASP apparently had those "four words" in mind from the beginning of the series. so anti-climactic and predictable and just, ran counter to everything rory was supposedly about.
No. 294677
>>294659I think people just like different spices.
From what I've read black people like hotter things, but also can't stand some of the spices we use.
In elementary school we were asked to make little packages that then were sent to some African country as christmas gifts for poorer kids and I remember being told that they can't eat our typical christmas spices, so we weren't allowed to include things like gingerbread.
Just because it doesn't "burn" away your tongue doesn't mean it's bland, just seasoned differently.
No. 294713
>>294677I'm African and I hate gingerbread (or ginger mixed with anything sweet). Can confirm.
My mom loves it, though. I can't relate.
No. 294810
>>294802I like non-virgin autists who have insane stories, personally.
Virgin autists don't lead very interesting lives. They can only talk about video games, how much they hate anyone who's not exactly like them, all the vaginas they'll never touch, memes and their depression.
No. 294844
>>294819Nope, we're omnivores. Adults who say shit like this are honestly just grown-up versions of the kids who scrunch their nose up at vegetables and make up any excuse not to eat healthy.
Your blood must be 10% gravy by now.
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Its not anybody’s job to “check up” on other peoples mental health issues. I hate how when somebody commits suicide they always turn to the persons loved one for not picking up and it and asking if they are okay. Then all of the sudden this makes them selfish for carrying on with their own lives and not having to check and see if so and so is okay 24/7.
No. 295075
>>295054Robin Williams also had a wife and children whom he both openly loved and shared his love for zelda and evangelion.
To make the family and loved ones of people who commit suicide feel GUILTY or 'they could have prevented this if only…' is utter bullshit and not cool at all.
Sometimes people just want to kill themselves.
No. 295076
>>295073
>But I think that tends to show that such a person isn't important in your life if you don't want to spend the effort.Wrong. Life happens. Sometimes i want to call up or text a friend, but then end up doing three 10 hour shifts in a row and i'm exhausted. or i dont get the time. or vice versa.
When you get older, you end up with less time for people, or only prioritize certain people (boyfriend/wife/husband/etc.)
No. 295083
>>295054……why are people still trying to paint Robin's suicide as depression-related anyway???
He had Lewy Body dementia.
His terminal illness literally changed his brain, he was no longer himself, and in boughts of clarity, he knew he was going. He could no longer memorize lines. Even his wife says his suicide had nothing to do with depression. He was down because his body was literally DESTROYING itself! If he could feign being better he would've, but physically he couldn't.
Sorry but I hate when depression fags try to equate their sads to terminal illnesses where a person is stripped of themselves in more than a mental sense.
No. 295090
>>295076I'm not saying that you have to text people every day. But if you haven't contacted someone for six months then you probably don't care about them. It's fine because the person has moved out of your life. But why act like you care?
>>295080I don't think you need to ask people about their mental health. More like, "Hey how are you?" in general.
No. 295110
>>295083Because tumblr glorifies mental illnesses and think suicide is someone else's fault and never the victim's for some reason.
Also, thank you bringing that up. A lot of love to use Robin Williams as the spokesperson for suicide awareness and it's really upsetting.
No. 295306
>>295298Because they openly admitted they're thirsting after them, that they want to date them, that they feel guilty because they're much older? One even said she hoped that a guy was still as small as in older pics of him
We all know that people don't "stan" kpop because they're so talented, so give me one reason why an adult women gushing over how pretty those underage boys are, is not creppy.
>>295299Lusting after young men is completely okay and normal, but not boys.
No. 295311
>>295306Not the 16 y/o ones which was what the "i want my little brother to grow up to be just like him" comment was about. No one said anything sexual about those two. The others
are legal now so I don't give a shit about people thirsting after them.
>give me one reason why an adult women gushing over how pretty those underage boys are, is not creppy.Because they think they're cute. Simple as that.
No. 295354
>>295318lmfao america isnt as backwards as a third world country in any way tho? im literally saying this as a central european person, america is a lot better developed than literally every single central/eastern european country, hell its probably a lot better than a lot of western european countries too, and americans need to stop pretending theyre some sort of oppressed and impoverished nation when theyre one of the most rich and powerful in the entire world. and also its insulting as fuck that americans and people from other countries with ego issues (esp ppl from western europe) try to make it seem like america is the same as a 3rd world country, when americas struggles are so minor compared to the struggles of other nations.
>>295305bitch, i cant even avoid hearing about american politics irl anymore either because the last few american tourists ive had to interact with couldnt even go 5 minutes without talking about fucking donald trump.
No. 295364
>>295354Central Europe consists of Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Liechtenstein, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland. If you really live there you should know that America is not "a lot better developed than
literally every single central/eastern european country"…
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>>295305I don't know about the anon who complained in the first place but in my case and many others, that would mean avoid the entire internet, the news in general, conversations about the news regardless if it's local or international news, pop culture stuff such as movies and tv shows that you can still be exposed to indirectly (like when everyone was so obsessed with Black Panther when it was released), etc. That would also mean for teenagers skipping some history and geography classes in middle school and high school. So yeah, good luck with that, unless you're fine with being a complete shut-in with no contact with the outside world.
No. 295416
>>2953541. I'm not American lol, I've just visited and get smacked in the face with their politics 24/7.
2. Just because your country is a shithole doesn't mean the entire continent of Europe is. Get a grip.
I wasn't talking about wealth and power, either. Despite having plenty of that, America is still behind other countries when it comes to things like hygiene in their major cities (take NYC for example,
shudder), their healthcare system (yeah okay have fun paying out the asshole for getting hurt), college tuition, etc etc.
When it comes to social issues like the prison system, politics, racism, gun laws, free speech, etc, I see Americans still debating shit other countries have moved on from. Like, some things they just can't seem to figure out. It's embarrassing. Only in America have I seen people talk shit about Muslim societies for their fucked up child marriage practices, but have yet to formally ban the practice on their own land, or do anything about those little girls who are raised in insane polygamist Christian sects and get married at like 11.
No. 295505
>>295416>When it comes to social issues like the prison system, politics, racism, gun laws, free speech, etc, I see Americans still debating shit other countries have moved on from. Like, some things they just can't seem to figure out. It's embarrassing. Only in America have I seen people talk shit about Muslim societies for their fucked up child marriage practices, but have yet to formally ban the practice on their own land, or do anything about those little girls who are raised in insane polygamist Christian sects and get married at like 11.Most Americans look down on that shit, fyi. It sucks that it happens but I wouldn’t say it’s the norm. Also I feel like certain places in Europe enable Muslim child marriages more so than the U.S
coughSweden
cough No. 295824
>>295363Some states only have one abortion center, so lots people have to drive and take time off work. Planned parenthoods that provide other reproductive health treatments are getting shut down. It's harder than ever to open up new clinics because of dumb regulations on hallway size etc. States are constantly trying to find ways to make it more difficult/delay abortions until the cut off point. Lots of women can't afford the travel/accommodation/cost of procedure. America sucks for womens reproductive health.
Here to get an abortion I booked an appointment with my dr (1 wk wait). She referred me to another doc. 1 wk after that I drove 15 min to a clinic, waited an hour or so, and went on my merry way. Payed like $50 total for it too.
No. 295825
>>295824and why don't you tell us how it's easier in the rest of the world.
that's on par for basically any other country that allows them.
No. 295829
>>295815I believe you will find plenty of people on tumblr to chat about this issue.
I'm not even being snarky or ironic. 100% honest.
This is annoying if you participate in fandoms, but since I don't, personally I don't give a fuck. I have found that it's much healthier to enjoy whatever media without interacting with it's fandom (otherwise than looking for fanart or fanfics from time to time and then moving on).
Since I stopped browsing fandom boards, tags etc. I'm feeling so much better about the stuff that I like. I recommend this to you too if you do not feel like looking for tumblr feminist sjw ~omg slay queen~ blogs which never shut up about real and perceived misogyny in the fandom and the show/game/whatever itself.
Unfortunately, you either have shitty fandoms full of misogyny or the sjw feminist ones which would not be bad had they not been so annoying with shit like headcanoning well-written female characters as trannies, the annoying phrases etc.
No. 295833
>>295827nta but some jobs, especially low-wage hourly work, are ridiculously strict on unplanned time off. You can straight up get fired and they will have someone in to replace you ASAP. Some employers can be quite heartless in that way and for at-will employees the law will back them up.
and usually.. these are the kinds of women (in low tier wageslave jobs with no other financial support) who benefit the most from abortion procedures.
>>295824$50? Wow nice, mine was $300 in 2010.
No. 295835
>>295830you just can't please them is all. i've had sane discussions on here about how sometimes you can make female characters stong
and conventionally attractive/sexual and i know everywhere else people would have a fit. i've also seen them complaining about characters like ellie from the last of us, mainly that she's too skinny, but still.
it really is the reality that those types don't want diversity, they just want things to be homogenized into what they like, just like the people they claim to hate. no, i don't want every female character to be a 10/10 white woman with an hourglass figure in a miniskirt, but i also don't want all of them to be "fat acceptance" 2quirky4u PoC girls shaped like potatoes.
No. 295840
>>295833i think anon meant why would you want to rush your abortion, but while i agree, there are certain laws for health related time off, and it's not as if getting an abortion would be something you do the day before.
but that's not really the point anyway, the point is americans always act like their women's health is the worst in the world. as if the rest of the world just has abortion clinics round every corner, and free birth control pills and stuff.
the one thing i agree is backwards is the lack of midwives and having babies in hospital. it's so weird to me.
No. 295844
>>295840I mean, America is a huge country and to be honestly, there is a huge part of the country that is still so super religious, that abortion is looked down upon and it is harder to get them done safety here. We're still fighting to keep our pro choice laws.
>the one thing i agree is backwards is the lack of midwives and having babies in hospital. it's so weird to me.Why though? lol having babies in the hospital is safer for both mother and child.
No. 295883
>>295815It reflects in real life too
People are taught to tear apart women and constantly build up men
No. 296168
>>296145Agreed and I'd even go further:
People that want to be parents should be mentally evaluated before hand and if deemed unfit for the role they should get temp castration plus a trainning course on parenting, therapy and then revaluated after an year or so to see if they have the capacity of improving and taking care of another human being.
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I dont care if makeup brands are “cruelty free” or not. I just really don’t fucking care.
No. 296200
My unpopular opinion is that North America is too large and divided of a country to run under one flag. In my opinion, it should be a continent, with each state governing themselves separately.
>>295824I've never had one myself, but I'm in the UK and in my shitty small hometown you can go to 3 sexual health clinics if you want, for free. You get free condoms, I've been in the room when my friends have got the contraceptive implant and they do it so quickly (all free, mind you). Yours seems like a success story, but the amount of people I hear having abortions that cost up to $500 is insane.
It's scary, I know america is a first world country, but they've got the most backwards views towards contraception and women's health. Terrifying.
No. 296204
>>296198isnt science a different thing than new lipsticks or other bs like that?
I hate unnecessary animal cruelty in the name of consumerism. I accept that we have to test medicine and other life saving science on animals, but make-up is not a necessity. Humanity as whole wont suffer if some bullshit company wont sell you a lipstick thats supposed to stay on for 40 hours or whatever.
That is my opinion though.
No. 296354
>>296201tbh there's no such thing as "cruelty free" if the workers are children mining mica.
the cruelty free on makeup label shouldn't just be about animals, also the ethical treatment of the workers and miners (usually children) of mica.
No. 296388
>>296354I would be all about 'no human exploitation' label on make-up but I suppose we will have to wait till more people are aware of the issue.
Though at this point I highly doubt if ethical consumption is possible in capitalism. 99,9% you are screwing someone over, even if you are not aware.
Good thing that I rarely buy make-up so at least I do not contribute much to human/animal abuse for non-necessities. I will take a cruelty free make-up over a brand that tests on animals.
I am aware that many items that I own like computer parts or clothes could be produced in ls than ethical ways, so don't misread this as me claiming to have a high ground (which I don't).
Animal testing is horrifying and disgusting to me, every time I read about some cases I have a hard time sleeping at night. I can't help but think how awful it would be to do the same things to humans… and animals suffer as much…
I am so disgusted with the way the world is run (and built in general, after all cruelty is a part of animal world) but I feel powerless to change it.
it worsens my depression and contributes to my wish to suicide someday, there is so much unimaginable evil and suffering here No. 296394
>>296386Samefag
The dog-hating thread is that way, anon.
Sorry you cannot enjoy dogs the way your friends do.
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>>296386Same. I'm okay with service dogs but really don't like the obsession people have with pet dogs (especially Americans on the internet, my god). The smaller the dog, the worse it gets. And don't even get me started on shitbulls and other "tough" breeds (which I prefer to call "small dick compensation" breeds (Rottweiler, Doberman, etc.))
>>296394
>Disliking badly raised pet dogs and not gushing over them like a retard = hating dogsLol ok Tiffany.
No. 296450
>>296432True.
Twitter is even worse than Tumblr nowadays imo
No. 296453
>>296432Most tumblr hate is just bandwagon as well,same with feminism, they'll just see tumblr hate shit on 4chan and hate Tumblr despite never going on it, it's crazy its gotten to a point where I linked an educational article to tumblr and everyone got pissed and started talking about "im not going to the stupid fat blue haired feminist site!!!" Despite never even reading a word the article said at all
I use tumblr and yeah there's bad sides of it just like any place or community on the planet, why tumblr gets most of it is beyond me
Honestly we should be more focused on pedophiles who brag about raping their sister and post pictures of creepshots of children on /b/, not some random harmless 16 yr old who thinks she's some weird gender
No. 296472
Especially unpopular here on lolcow but I find stronger jaws on women very attractive. If you have nice features it can really bring them out and it doesn't make you look ''manly'' (which so many people here are ridiculously paranoid of) at all.
>>296432This. I feel like the people who believe that tumblr is ''the worst'' social media platform have never actually used the site, they just caught wind of the ''lol
triggered feminazis'' meme from 2015.
It's a fucking train wreck, you'll find all kinds of extremism over there. People make fun of it for the gender/safe-space/sjw stuff as if it isn't just as bad or even worse on twitter, a site these people praise all the time. Not wking tumblr since I personally don't like it but I hate when people don't see their own hypocrisy.
No. 296476
>>296388I know what you mean but try not to make yourself feel guilty about it. Be the change anon. Join an anti human slavery volunteer group, or just inform others to make more ethical choices, encourage electronic recycling.
There's lots you can do, and honestly it does make me feel awful as well. Just try and do what you can to make the world a little less awful. I believe in you. You can do it. xx
No. 296562
>>296559yep one of the most famous black girls who sits and criticizes other people for appropriation adopted an asian nickname and is obsessed with asian culture
very hypocritical
No. 296579
>>296559>tumblr>every black girl on earthIdk about anyone else but I'm tired of white people grouping me with these people. I don't care about feminism, racism etc kek
These are non-issues for me.
No. 296582
>>296580Nope. I've just seen some people shitting up this place because they like to dish out shitty comments and stupid generalizations about women of other races, but then have complete meltdowns whenever they get a taste of their own medicine. It's fucking sad, and I'm sick of it.
How hard is it to keep race out of your mouths? Is it all you think about?
No. 296585
>>296579I'm convinced it's the same 2-3 people who make all these dumb posts about black girls doing [x] or [y] or being walking stereotypes of some nonsense they saw on the internet. They don't care about reality, they just have personal problems and can't stop bitching.
These sorts of humans have mental issues, and will only play victim when anyone disagrees with them. I don't know if it's some cultural thing for them, or if they were bullied by some mean black girls in primary school and are now obsessed, but I'm over it.
No. 296587
>>296585Like I don't care about Disney princesses being black or race bending Harry Potter characters. I'm a 27 year old woman I'm not fucking 12 kek
Maybe if these woman babies actually interacted with actual adult black women they would realize this isn't an issue for us…
No. 296627
>>296624Totally. I've always wished I could be a natural platinum blonde since a child, but I will just live with my brunette hair and face the fact that I make an ugly trashy looking blonde and it's never going to happen.
I know hair colour is a bad analogy, but the trannys that butcher themselves to look worse than they currently do are deluded. Like I know you wanna be a lady, but science can only help you so much.
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The anons in the redline/redraw thread collectively suffer from dunning kruger effect
but it's funny to see the "fixed" artworks
No. 297034
>>297028this, especially the makeup. fun fact, even makeup companies that don't test their final product on animals are still only using ingredients that are tested on animals. there is basically no ingredient that is in makeup that isn't tested on animals, because it's required by law to do so.
i hate the bitching about china too because basically every country in the world requires either the finished product or all ingredients to have been tested on animals.
No. 297086
>>297028God I hate the term "vegan leather". Literal plastic instead of just buying a second hand real leather jacket (that actually fucking decomposes some day), shit's not ecological or "cruelty free" in the long term at all. But well, vegans are pretty goddamn illogical anyway (see: honey) so it's not a big surprise.
t. ex-vegan, now trying to be actually ecologically conscious instead of living that meme "lifestyle"
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That basic Korean fashion that everyone is obsessed with is so tacky and childish. Also, a couple of otherwise really nice Korean girls from my school turned up to a formal event dressed like pic related, and I felt so bad for them because everyone else was dressed in blazers/suits/longer dresses and they looked really uncomfortable.
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Gay people are often just as annoying as the other "members" of lgbt and whatever else exists.
I never watched the muppets so I couldn't care less but it's scary to see how that guy has to defend himself…
Pic related is what he tweeted.
The responses:
>Why are they not? Not arguing…just wondering.. He said he wrote from that POV…
I created Bert. I know what and who he is.
>You may have created him, but you don't seem to realize or appreciate what he meant to thousands of little boys growing up. You digging in your heels (and wrongly conflating romantic orientation with sexual orientation) with what seems like disgust is abjectly disappointing.
How odd you see my feelings as disgust
>if you aren't disgusted,, why do you care so much about this. c'mon frank say it. "i hate the gays" it's right there man c'mon say it you know you want to
WHAT!!!!!??????
>Why the need to define people as gay? Uh, because we exist. I’m gay. 100% gay. Always have been, always will be. I’ve known since I was 7, and was told what the word meant. Yes, there are a lot of bi and pan people out there, but there are also A LOT of gay people.
But why accept being defined as only one aspect of oneself??
>Why would they only be defined by one aspect if they were gay? That doesn’t make any sense.
>Why do you need to define them as only straight?
for honesty
>Because representation matters, Frank.
Yes it does. When it's honest representation
>it's important for characters to be explicitly declared queer, because the mainstream will code them straight by default
Agreed. When a character is created to be queer it is indeed important that the character be known as such. It is also important when a character who was not created queer, be accepted as such.
No. 297224
>>297136You and me both, anon.
I don’t have anything against genuine trans people or using their preferred pronouns. What I do have a problem with is that there are so many psychotic creeps who call themselves trans and use it as an excuse to fetishize, invade others’ spaces and put others in actual danger just so they get to feel morally superior and immune to criticism lest they screech bigot.
Basically I don’t have anything against transgenderism itself or genuine trans people who just want to live their life and don’t hurt anyone; I just hate the (plentiful) rotten eggs and transtrenders.
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>>297189they're goddamn kids show puppets holy shit. they're not defined as any sexuality. it's not like they talk about going over to zoe's apartment for a booty call either. great and all that this guy supposedly ~knew he was gay~ since he was 7 but most children have no idea what their sexuality will turn out to be, even if there are clues, so they don't need muh representation. in fact, i'd argue that the constant barraging of "are you gay? are you pan? it's fine if you are! super brave and courageous if you come out immediately. so what are you???" from a young age is why so many teenagers identify as asexual now. back in the day, if you didn't really have sexual thoughts or desires yet, you were just considered you know, not ready? now if you're late on your mandatory coming out assignment you just automatically pencil in ace.
No. 297294
>>297260I find that little makes up for every other irredeemable thing he is.
Imagine that, if not being racist was the only baseline of decency anyone could say about yourself. Gee.
No. 297296
>>297260back in the early 2000s it was a thing for all those sceneXqueens to say stupid derogatory shit all over myspace and stickam
like it was a legit trend, not just people being racist
however im pretty sure he referred to raquel reed with racist remarks and thats why she dropped kicked his ass so its very possible he actually was if not still is
No. 297494
>>297474I don't think there's anything wrong with having it shown, like in Clarence or The Loud House. Both of which featured same-sex parents of the main character's friend on occasions. They never really said anything about it or made it a plot point, they were just there. It's really no different than showing straight parents
It gets annoying and weird when it's done in a way like Steven's Universe. Romance doesn't isn't common in kid's cartoon, nor do I feel like it has a place, so having the two gems that are garnet or whatever kiss and have a wedding and shit is weird.
The only exception is probably Adventure Time. By the time the PB/Marceline romance happened CN had stop really airing it so the only fans of the show were the ones who have watched it since the beginning and are pretty much grown.
No. 297498
>>297472I don't. The contact with the tongue doesn't do much for me. I prefer a guy who's good with his fingers.
It's always such a hassle when a guy believes he's going to rock my world even after I tell him it's just not my thing. Oral is bland to me, you could just as well be blowing on my belly button.
No. 297605
>>297508>>297523Nta.
Why is it hard for you to comprehend that some women don't get anything out of oral and do prefer a vibrator or their own fingers to someone else's mouth? Doesn't make anons clitless just because they have their preferences.
No. 297719
>>297471punk leaning subcultures were almost always inclusive to poc
that was the whole point of them, to fight the systemic supression of free thought and expression
not saying there werent right leaning sects, but by and large punk was about anti authoritism, anti war, anti colonialism, anti colorism etc
No. 297736
>>297637I think blaming anime is dumb af though because where the hell are their parents and priorities growing up?
I grew up on anime and liked yaoi, but never once though i should cut off my tits and live my life as an uke boy. These people are pitiful shut ins and the main issue is society encouraging this behavior instead of shutting it down.
No. 297786
>>297189I support gay rights but I hate this shit. I hate the mentality of good close friends of the same sex means that they’re obliviously fucking. The whole purpose of Bert and Ernie was to show that two people can still be friends even if they have contrasting personalities, which I think it’s a good thing to teach both children and adults. Making Bert and Ernie suddenly gay implies that men and people in general can’t have close friendships in general and must be fucking instead.
I’m happy that Sesame Street isn’t pandering to it though. If they wanted to have actual LGBT representation, they they do the sensible thing and create an actual gay character.
No. 297923
I really hate those group animation projects where a new animator comes in after a certain number of seconds to recreate the video. Most of the animators, instead of putting their own spin or using their own style, they will entirely change what happens, or insert their shitty OC or stupid memes/references.
https://youtu.be/CL5lImIyJHIhttps://youtu.be/pTy1Zmi5G9gEspecially in the Your Face video, that stupid fucking fox 25 seconds in
No. 297959
>>297956>Over sexualized and too many songs about her pussy.Really? I mean sure she does have some dirty songs but at least they sound like they were actually written from a place of authenticity opposed to not just ghostwriters who are trying to sell to the lowest common denominator to sell as much money.. cos you know sex sells.
basically all her songs on her 'broke with expensive taste' album aren't like that at all though and thats her best most cohesive work. I'd recommend that album to you if you want some anti-nicki female rap.
No. 297989
>>297953there are plenty who arent like that but they dont get forced in the media tbh
lots of lovely indie rappers who are just chill and rap about real shit
No. 298001
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Stuff like pic related involving "models" or "actors" with Down's make me very unconfortable.
It's so dumb, there's no way in hell people actually find them talented or attractive.
Just so unfortunated how we try to normalize a conditon that will always be a defect and never really cute or heroic, like, stop pretending.
No. 298004
>>298001honestly they will never be normalized nor is it their own fault that they are the way they are so i dont worry so much about it
its not like people can decide to go out and be down syndrome or something so why not just let them live their life?
its not comparable to gender fluidity or trans shit which is influencing literal children to undergo harmful surgeries and literally ENCOURAGING and fostering mental illness and confusion and therefore is normalizing it when it shouldnt be a thing that is looked at as ok
No. 298009
>>298004But why giving them jobs that depend on looks when they are mildly deformed.
It feels like those schools that give a prize to all the kids after a sports event when it's all just a big cop out.
Not every kid is a winner, just as models should be pretty and not unconfortable to look at.
I don't even care if that means I'm a biggot, I just don't want to be visually confronted with mentally disabled people.
No. 298012
>>298009because its not a big deal at all? people with down syndrome are actually more or less properly functioning and can thrive and have just as much right to do things as others.
im not saying she should be an angel tbh, because its a very specific modeling niche those girls typically fall into, but as for her just being a model and actress its fine and your discomfort with seeing someone with down syndrome is pretty akin to someone thinking their discomfort with seeing a poc is a valid excuse to keep that person from getting jobs where they are visible people
No. 298032
>>298012I agree mostly, but please don't compare Down's to people of color, AKA most people in the world according to Murricans.
I'm okay with normal human beings and I don't think feeling unconfortable with disabled people is uncommon outside big cities.
No. 298038
>>298034trannies are not born trannies
poc and down syndrome individuals are both born as they are and using the term "discomfort when exposed to them" by abled individuals in regards to people with down syndrome is the same thing non poc have done to poc for eons
not gonna argue semantics since people are obsessed with the idea that being a poc is apparently the most disadvantaged a person can be
No. 298040
>>298038>poc is apparently the most disadvantaged a person can beAnons were saying quite the opposite.
The one bringing in identity politics is you alone, able people regardless of their skin color are way more fit to be models or entertainers than retarded people.
No. 298042
>>298001The downs syndrome persons who make it into media like that are more high-functioning than most with their condition. Meaning it's a complete fluke and something the adults in their lives supported them into doing to feel better about their otherwise bleak existence.
I had a distant cousin with downs who lived into his 50s with the mentality of a 3 year old. He was prone to violence, unpredictable, and had a 6'0 man's body; mostly non-verbal and only knew simple words. Also he needed constant care because he was a toddler in a man's body. He would often clobber his parents. When I visited once or twice my mom would tell me to behave, and to try not to upset him. It was very uncomfortable and intimidating.
Yet they put up with it because back in the day it was either deal with your developmentally disabled child, or throw the child into a neglectful gov't home where they'd probably mysteriously die young.
Anyway, I find modeling to be such a subjective joke that I do think putting a downs syndrome person on stage like that is harmless (But Victoria's Secret, lol really? The brand known for subjugating women is gonna cape for an unattractive, mentally disabled girl ha. ha. ha.). If people don't want to see her, then they can simply tune out.
What bothers me is when people try to force these developmentally disabled people into private spaces. How about this piece of news where a campus is getting backlash because none of the sororities took on a downs girl during rush?
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/university-cheerleader-with-down-syndrome-denied-from-every-sorority-on-campus/ar-BBNwPjuThey're calling this pressure for others to unconditionally accept the mentally disabled "neurodiversity."
I don't even like Greek life, but how is it helping the plight of people with downs to bully other people into accepting them when they do (rightfully) have concerns about letting someone with literal retardation into their spaces? What does that do to deescalate the fear and discomfort? And what if she didn't get picked like how other normal girls didn't get picked? Why
should everyone accommodate every disabled person all the time or they're jerks?
It's getting out of hand.
No. 298043
>>298040nope if i was comparing the physicality it would be different, but the comparison is literally in how someone is using their "discomfort" with seeing someone who isnt like them in media
you could use any individual who is born with a social disadvantage in the place of poc and it would still be apt, such as a woman
there is no difference in saying >i am uncomfortable when people with down syndrome are visible human beings and saying >i am uncomfortable when someone who is a different race than i am is a visible human being
america wouldnt even allow poc to play their own fucking race in movies, television, and musicals and STILL have a problem doing so
its the same shit as having able bodied people play disabled characters in the media because they want to profit from their stories but are >uWu uncomfy seeing an actual human being with those disadvantages on their tv
improper comparisons would be trannies and obese people, because no one is born a tranny or fat
No. 298049
>>298043>its the same shit as having able bodied people play disabled characters in the media because they want to profit from their storiesThis is ridiculous, people with disabilities are the minority of the minority, and thus really hard to find as actors, let alone talented ones.
Also, you talk like a tumblr lib fem.
Are you also the type that believe that only gay people should play gay characters? Or that the gay actor to play Batwoman is not Jew enough for her character?
No. 298050
>>298042Agreed anon.
During elementary there was a class in my school for retarded kids and I have to say that it was very weird for everyone involved that they participated in the lunch time and rec ativities with everyone else. Lot's of fights, involving huge retarded teens, and bullying with not a lot of qualified teachers to handle it all.
Those kids would have been much better served at a specific school designed to help them overcome their obstacles.
I guess that's why retarded people have such an inpact over me, over exposure is a thing.
No. 298058
>>298049>>298051youre being obtuse
people with disabilities(im not talking about tumblr tier fake mental ilnesses that dont actually exist) should be able to be seen as visual human beings if they can properly perform the job laid out in front of them despite how uncomfortable it makes people, and if you imply anything else you are literally in the same tier as someone who sees a poc, a person who is unconventionally attractive, or a woman in the media or in a sport or in your local office and says "i am uncomfy seeing this person despite their ability to perform the task so therefore they should not be visible to me"
i said she shouldnt be a victorias secret angel as down syndrome individuals do not possess the mental capacity to consent to being sexualized which is what victorias secret is about
implying she shouldnt be visible at all because it makes some spergs uncomfortable is stupid and bigoted
No. 298062
>>298058>if they can properly perform the job laid out in front of themA model needs to be aesthetic, she doesn't qualify.
You know deep down the only reason brands hire retarded people is for media sympathy points and buzz.
No. 298069
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>>298058>i said she shouldnt be a victorias secret angel as down syndrome individuals do not possess the mental capacity to consent to being sexualized which is what victorias secret is aboutyou're right. they do have limited capacity for understanding, generally at a child's level, and should not be objectified. that's fucking disgusting.
>>298062>A model needs to be aesthetic, she doesn't qualify.not really. why can't she be a sears catalogue model or some kind of relatable clothing model? she wouldn't detract from selling normal people clothing. not avant garde runway shit, but they have nice figures all the same and can still represent a pair of chinos nicely etc
No. 298072
>>298062so models with features that arent aesthetically pleasing to you should just not model?
models with albinism?
models with missing limbs? models with faces that arent symmetrical?
should steve buscimi not be an actor because he is unpleasant to look at?
is there a certain age requirement? a model who is over the age of 55 with no plastic surgery that actually looks her age is not allowed?
a model whos skin is too dark?
and almost ANYONE who isnt straight and white is thrown into visible media for points and buzz
you think putting poc in movies and tv shows as characters that are historically white isnt just for brownie sjw points? miss me with that shit
No. 298074
>>298069>but they have nice figuresI guess your pic is unrelated then.
But really, just because someone is not obese it doesn't mean they have a nice figure.
No. 298075
>>298072What the fuck anon, a person missing a chromossome is deformed. That's it.
Stop making it a racial issue, wtf.
No. 298077
>>298071im not comparing the physicality my fucking god you people are obtuse as fuck the comparison is in people whining that someone who physically makes them uncomfortable shouldnt be allowed to be in a visible career
you are saying all people with down syndrome cant take care of themselves and cant do anything and are all just babbies who need to be hidden away despite the fact that acting is a job that many people with disabilites like down syndrome can 100% commit to and carry out
there are models with down syndrome, and its perfectly fine
nobody ever whines about being an ~uncomparable victim~ unless poc are brought up as if 50 years ago poc werent literally looked at the EXACT same way people still look at people with down syndrome
being compared to monsters and animals and stereotyped with inhuman features
anybody with a brain in modern society knows poc are not deformed but youre deflection from my point of comparison in the way society has and continues to treat people who are born socially disavantaged, is very telling in that its more acceptable to just shrug off discrimination against the disabled because it makes people uncomfortable
No. 298078
>>298058Nta but we can assume that a person of color, a woman, or an unattractive human is mentally competent to perform the jobs laid for them most of the time.
A person with a severe disability may not always be able to do so. I agree that nobody should blanket statement every person with downs because some are high-functioning and can perform certain tasks.
However, that doesn't mean every disabled person will be a boon to the work environment. Therefore there is reason for uncertainty as opposed to discriminating against someone for a mental illness that's functional and common say, like depression.
Anyway
>all this talk about aesthetic and who qualifies to model whatWhy even bother with this argument? You know you farmers are going to have differing opinions on it anyway and that's beside the point.
How about the hypocrisy of these people for wanting everyone to look past a down syndrome woman's appearance while she wants to model for a company that is known for preying upon other women's appearances and nary choosing women to model for them who aren't bodily flawless?
C'mon, there's bigger issues to unpack there.
No. 298083
>>298078sure but the point was that the anon is saying NO ONE with down syndrome should be a model or actor and that there is an attempt to normalize it
if the celebrity in question is functionally acting and modeling, then that persons discomfort is actually rooted in discrimination and is comparable to the bigotry directed to anyone else who was born "disadvantaged" socially and discriminated against because they make people "uncomfortable" physically despite their ability to carry out the task or career they are pursuing
No. 298088
>>298082if you think minstrel shows and black, yellow, brown and red face is only applicable to america then i have no reason to engage with you, as thats obviously not true and even still happens all over the world
the average american is however, more obsessed with racial victimization and places race in a bubble as if people fighting oppression in other ways are not as valid as people fighting racial oppression as has been proven by this entire conversation
No. 298091
>>298088I really hate to be the one to say this, but racial issues are about making judgements towards people over things that don't actually exist. Races don't have differing mental capacities or anything. People with mental disabilities do actually have differing mental capacities. A model with downs requires extra care and support while a black model does not.
These things aren't even comparable anyways. Sure these people do need compassion, but they don't need equality in this way. Throwing them into cut-throat industries known for abuse, assault and general shittiness is not positive.
No. 298106
>>298077here's the point though, judging negatively a POC because of their looks or their "physicality" is very often uncalled for. Meanwhile, being even mildly disturbed by the physicality of someone with down syndrome is normal because they're really deformed, have the maturity of a child even when they're high functioning, speak like toddlers for the most part, have a bunch of physical health problems, etc. and you can guess all of that in less than a second. So the comparaison is stupid in the first place, and potentially insulting. Not just talking about modeling here, bu you comparing a group of people who can barely do shit and it's obvious by just looking at them and they can only work thanks to quotas that can force some companies to hire disabled people, to a group of people who can, for the most part, work and are sometimes only prevented from that because of racists recruiters. My point here IS about being judged by looks too.
From my very short professional experience, working with someone with down syndrome is fucking hell on earth, and I'm talking about a high functioning guy and a very simple job. Hope I'll never have to go through that again, it was like being a babysitter while doing my actual job. I can't even imagine why they picked this girl to do something like modelling half naked in front of people and cameras, she can't possibly consent to that and the modeling industry doesn't seem very safe for someone like her.
No. 298157
>>298153Which communities are you in? Anime fan?
I feel this way about men with ASD (they are the worst) and a lot of women. But I also know 2 women on the spectrum, that while obsessive and unchanging, are kind people who are nice to hang out with.
No. 298158
>>298153you’ve probably talked to people online or read what they’ve written and didn’t suspect that they were on the spectrum at all. a lot of the loudest people tend to overestimate just how “high-functioning” they are and use it as an excuse to act like a freak or disregard other people’s emotions. there are plenty of autistic people that manage to pass as relatively normal, agreeable human beings, but that takes a significant amount of effort on their part and a lot of people fall into the social justice-encouraged trap of “since i’m different from the majority, /you/ have to accommodate for /me./“ it’s a shame and horribly enabling.
apart from that i agree with you. it has to be a big part in why niche internet communities are so fucking insufferable.
No. 298163
>>298153I really don't like autistics either and I tell people that openly. I couldn't care less. I also hate when parents of violent autists get mad at teachers and such who have to deal with their little shits and have no choice but to physically restrain them. What the fuck are they meant to do?
male autistics are demons.
No. 298200
>>298157I've read that women with autism tend to have different behavior than male autistics because of the way women are socially conditioned. Women on the spectrum are also harder to diagnose for the fact that we are conditioned to blend in and be socially conscientious whereas males are not so much (if at all).
Almost every male autistic and sperg I've ever known was a self-centered shit with a bad attitude. Worse yet is that they usually have parents who dismiss their bad behavior due to the 'tism so they grow up thinking their selfish behavior is a-okay and fuck how they treat others. Fucking sociopaths.
No. 298213
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>>298075people with down's have an extra chromosome, not a missing one.
No. 298215
>>298157I agree with this. I've known lots of women on the spectrum and like, whatever, you can tell they are but they can still be cool people. And if they're shitty people, they're shitty but not in a way that's threatening. At this point though, when I find out a dude is autistic (which never takes long), I write him off pretty much immediately because at worst he's a weirdo manchild legit danger, and at best he's irritating and gets weird around women. This can mean he's a creepy fetishist, an actual abuser, or just makes every girl around him his mommy caretaker, but it always, always sucks.
No. 298230
>>298222The comments are fucking cancer.
I'm also disgusted by so many virtue signalling women.
No. 298305
>>298001I have no problem with people with disorders becoming models, even down's syndrome, except this girl was coached by her mother and it's obvious her mother is living through her. Not only that, in every interview she seems like she doesn't even know what's going on.
Plus she waddles like a duck. She doesn't even walk like a model.
But yeah, even though I'm privy to models being disabled, I'm also kinda getting sick of this pc culture of putting disabled people everywhere in advertising.
No. 298469
>>298465If you're talking about the vent thread, no one called their bfs abusive for wanting to leave.
And males generally are "crazy" for different reasons than women, you realize?
No. 298488
>>298001I'm a bit late to the party but yes, I agree with you. It's virtue-signaling, pretentious as fuck and deep down everyone knows that this is true. Just like when this year's ''Miss'' Spain title was won by a trans woman.
It's so unnecessary and fake and I wish people would stop mindlessly praising this type of stuff just because it makes them feel like they're being a ''nice person''. Nothing against anyone who is disabled but I feel like companies are just exploiting them for PC brownie points.
No. 298491
>>298043>you could use any individual who is born with a social disadvantage in the place of poc and it would still be apt, such as a woman"Woman in place of POC"
People who say shit like this are so irritating. This "Woman is the Nigger of the World" BS needs to end.
Women who are not white are still women. There is no inherent divide between not being male and not being white. If you meant white women exclusively, say that. The sooner you stop thinking the default non-white person is male, and the default woman is white, the better.
No. 298498
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>>297992>>297995Angel Haze (big favorite)
Princess Nokia
Noname
Agua De Guayaba
DoNormaal
Janelle Monae (she does way more singing than rapping, though)
Tkay Maidza
Aristophanes
Lady Leshurr
Kari Faux
Daoko (again, way more singing than rapping)
Cupcakke (very sexual tracks, but also raps about real shit)
They all do different genres and have different styles.
No. 298511
>>298498Ms Banks (different banks)
Dej Loaf
Rapsody
Young M.A
Shystie
No. 298518
>>298516This. I'm beyond sick of it.
The extreme PC nature of the beauty community and the constant outrages over the most minuscule shit are so tiresome. I can't deal with the witch hunting either.
No. 298524
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Some farmers have hideous uwu ~aesthetics~. I wish you guys would post those aesthetic image/fashion threads in /g/ where they belong so I don't have to hide a billion threads on here; they're eyesores.
No. 298529
>>298527I kind of agree. A lot of women seem to walk badly in them or have bad posture in them, they make your feet feel like shit, and can instantly make you seem overdressed or slutty depending on your outfit.
Tallfag here, I can wear short heels and still appear like 8ft in the room.
No. 298538
>>298153>>298158Are you me anon, holy shit this so hard.
I work in the Games Industry and studied Games Development at college and Uni and those were honestly filled to the brim with Autists (no surprise)
When i was in college i was thrown into a class with a guy that claimed he was "high Functioning" but was the exact opposite. He would stop whole lectures to make someone sit next to him and explain in full detail what he needed to do for his assignments when it was already babied out for everyone. I normally wouldn't mind but this guy went out of his way to slow down everyone else's learning just so he could get the spotlight and scream about how he can't read this word or can't spell that word. I have no idea how he got onto the class to begin with.
I once got took into a meeting about my attitude towards the guy because I was top of the class and refused to give him my notes, because there were, well mine. I explained to the lectures that if this were the real world he wouldn't be getting babied as a "high functioning autistic" and he'd be expected to do his own damn work without hindering anyone else. I was legitimately told that I was a bully and should be ashamed because he is different and I need to accept that.
I was later put into a group project with him where he point blank refused to do any work because he didn't understand it and I spent many sleepless nights working my ass off to finish it by myself and he got all the ass pats for it. He even started to say sexual things about my body and when I complained about the treatment I was pushed off because "muh autism i can't help it"
TLDR: People should stop giving high functioning autistics the world because when they're expected to do their own shit they turn into giant man babies and pull the disability card to get whatever they want.
sorry for blogging and sperging
No. 298540
>>298538its ridiculous how much society caters to disabled people in general. i used to have to work with girl who had a relatively minor physical disability to do a project, and she didnt even turn up to 80% of the lessons and never contributed to the home tasks, not even when i told her it was impossible to do the project by myself. however when it came to the final grade i was failed and she was given the highest grade there was. the teacher even told me that i should learn from her and how hard working she was kek
i also remember this other girl who i think had some kind of autism who used to violently attack people, and a guy in a wheelchair who used to go out of his way to run peoples toes over and leave bruises and shit but no one cared, in fact i remember some instances where the victims were blamed.
No. 298542
>>298540Thats awful anon.
I just hate that autists get the whole world given to them but since they're labeled as disabled they wont do shit for themselves. I'm talking about the high functioning autists not those who actually need a carer 24/7. The guy in my class would get the bus to college and do everything all by himself while others who were also autistic (further down on the spectrum if you will) needed extra help with the simple stuff. Funny enough those who needed extra help were very kind and easy going.
I just really hate people like that guy who label themselves as high functioning and act all high and mighty about it yet act worse than those who really do need help and are nice people despite their disability. It really annoyed me to see these good kids get a bad rep with other students because of one greasy autistic that refused to sit and listen quietly to a lecture and couldn't keep his filthy hands off women.
No. 298575
>>298548My job prides itself on being able to hire people who cant get jobs elsewhere. We have had many disabled people (mentally i mean) work for us and i have to do twice as much work because they can't get simple tasks done. Of course i'm the asshole if i say anything.
>>298540As for the autists who violently attack people, they're shits.
No. 298578
>>298507She dresses like an actual child and it's gross. I don't get why so many white weebs are drawn to that aesthetic? You can dress cute and still look your age. She also looks haggard af.
Her friend is really cute though. I love that short hair cut.
No. 298596
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I feel like I'm going to get some backlash for this post, but I think people who make a constant habit of complaining about J-fashion being too childish (I don't mean just thinking to themselves "That's a bit too childish for my taste, I would not wear that" or "That person looks bad, their clothes are so cutesy that it highlights how haggard they actually are" and moving on, but getting in a mood and feeling the need to gripe about others dressing like 12 year olds whenever they see pastel colors or a ribbon or something) are probably more concerned with convincing the world around them of their own maturity than anything.
Like, I never see kids wearing shit like pic related (actual kids seem to either wear bright graphic tees with pants, or mini versions of adult normie clothes), I see skinny young adults/college students and 16 year olds (at youngest) with expendable income doing it. There's just a lot of femininity without any real sexualized aspect involved, which may read as childish to some people, but I don't see why "cute" would necessarily translate to "for kids only". A more sensible criticism would be that it looks too costumey, like something a fictional character would wear, but it's always down to age and maturity for some people, which strikes me as odd. It's like they assume being an adult means either keeping clothing very toned down, inoffensive and/or near-androgynous, or at least somewhat sexualized and cut to give the illusion of an hourglass figure or cleavage. It doesn't have to be like that. Adulthood is a stage in life and physical makeup, not a singular set of aesthetics. Adults dress and present in all sorts of ways (including obnoxiously and flamboyantly) because they have the means to do so. You can't reverse your age with clothing.
No. 298598
>>298596Nobody rips on people for being childish with an outfit like that. Its when people like venus are wearing things that are obviously childrens clothes (like some tshirts she wears ) or wearing things like bonnets and cutesy bear/cat clips that are obviously marketed towards little girls.
And I’d say traditional lolita dresses cross the line into little girls wear too much for my comfort.
No. 298603
>>298597Children's characters are often designed by adults, based on what they believe would catch children's eyes, and be obviously discernible from adult characters. It doesn't usually translate to actual children's clothes (aside from Halloween costumes), because they're usually too over the top, not comfortable to kids, impractical for children's playing, eating and getting dirty, etc.
It doesn't sound too weird, IMO, for an adult to think "Man, I really liked this character design from a book/cartoon/fairy tale I still feel nostalgic about. Now that I'm a grown woman with an existing taste for things that are flamboyant/theatrical, and don't have childish concerns (like fabric being too tight, itchy or getting covered in cake or cereal) I can dress like I'm from a fantasy", and working based on that.
>>298598I don't disagree with you on anything but the Lolita bit, for the same reasons above. If anything, Lolita fashion looks like fairy tale character wear, and has always had a deeper connection to gothic fashion, Victorian/Rococo wear, etc.
No. 298604
>>298601Adults 21+ who look cute and small exist, anon. It's also not people in their 40s I see getting clowned for wearing J-fashion, otherwise I'd understand. It's literally just the ones who the fashion is made for (ie, women who are in their early 20s or younger, skinny because most Jfash isn't made for anyone above 120lbs) who seem to get shit on for it.
It strikes me as kind of dumb to dislike a fashion because not everyone can pull it off.
No. 298606
>>298605That's only if the young woman looked older to begin with, and then it's a matter of her specifically not being able to pull it off. It's like when a very morbidly obese person tries to dress like a skinny model, looking like shit, and then people blaming clothes instead of the fat person for not understanding what they look like.
>The reality is most people look shit dressed like that.*most people who look older than 21
Not everybody ages so quickly that they look awful in anything non-casual or non-sexualized, believe it or not.
No. 298610
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>>298603>Children's characters are often designed by adults, based on what they believe would catch children's eyes, and be obviously discernible from adult characters. It doesn't usually translate to actual children's clothes (aside from Halloween costumes), because they're usually too over the top, not comfortable to kids, impractical for children's playing, eating and getting dirty, etc. okay? obviously? i've said that. but what does that have to do with what i've said? the fact is that the emotional and visual connection is there and that it looks like an outfit a child's character would wear, point blank. like, a character that is also a child, not just any fantasy character – specifically those that are children.
>It doesn't sound too weird, IMO, for an adult to think "Man, I really liked this character design from a book/cartoon/fairy tale I still feel nostalgic about. Now that I'm a grown woman with an existing taste for things that are flamboyant/theatrical, and don't have childish concerns (like fabric being too tight, itchy or getting covered in cake or cereal) I can dress like I'm from a fantasy", and working based on that.yeah but they typically don't wear children's clothing. i have a desire to dress theatrically but i don't have a desire to look like i'm trying to cosplay as a fictional child. i think that's the issue. it's a little weird, especially when these outfits are commonly associated wth being childlike (pigtails, short socks with shoes, flowy dresses) but are then sexualized to some degree by being paired with heels, pantyhose, short skirt, fitted, etc.
i think most people typically want to dress like pic related and think that's generally more appropriate because again, it doesn't look like you're trying to cosplay a child's character. the styling in that pic you posted, and in a lot of lolita bullshit, is often the same type of shit: childlike hairstyles, childlike hairclips, socks with heels, etc, etc.
No. 298612
>>298608"Barely legal"? Now you're just getting creepy.
Some clothes are made for young adults who actually look their age, yes. People looking their age and being able to pull off things that aren't targeted at those in the 30s+ crowd doesn't make them child-like ageplayers. It just sounds like, again, you have a warped idea of adulthood and what an adult is supposed to look like.
You said it was childish because of the people who can't pull it off, and I already explained why that's silly. Just because you or someone else can't fit into a sweater or a pair of leggings, or their colors happen to bring out the worst features in your face, doesn't mean they're objectively bad and for little babies.
>It's near impossible for most people to look uwu loli enough to pull clothes off like that after the age of 21."Most people" don't look as haggard as you'd seemingly like to believe.
No. 298616
>>298613Because you're arguing
>Young adults dressing like young adults?? Um…Ageplay much?? xDDDDWho even mentioned children and tweens? Why do you conflate looking cute only with being a little kid, and looking like you're about to hit 37 and pastel colors exacerbating that with being a ~*troo adult*~?
No. 298619
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>>298615
lolita fashion seems to be more inspired by babies/children from the Victorian era.
No. 298621
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>>298616Looking child like=/=looking haggard. someone like a young Kate moss would look retarded in Japanese fashion because she's tall and her features despite the fact that she is beautiful.
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>>298610Posted too soon
>like, a character that is also a child, not just any fantasy character – specifically those that are children.Apart from Strawberry Shortcake, what explicitly child character dresses like this? It's based directly in fantasy and fairy tale illustrations, which are often aimed at kids, so those designs are sort of relevant in spite of the character's age(s).
>yeah but they typically don't wear children's clothing. We've already gone over it not being children's clothing for impracticality reasons, though. It catches children's eyes.
>but are then sexualized to some degree by being paired with heels, pantyhose, short skirt, fitted, etc.Lolita? Because short skirts and anything fitted generally doesn't belong. Heels and pantyhose are associated more with being regal and theatrical than sexy.
>>298619It's a more "innocent" spin on gothic clothing, usually, and only Sweet Lolita can really be applied to children.
>>298620>first of all, this looks fucking ridiculous and tacky. kek, like, do you lolitafags even see how tacky this looks?I don't wear Lolita, personally, but thanks for the opinion. I'm sure people typically want to hear your take on things, kek.
>ow can you even claim this isn't meant to look like a child's outfit?What children's outfits look like this? We've gone over why the design looks the way it looks (ie based on media commonly aimed at children), but where do you live that kids dress like this?
No. 298628
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>>298621Kate Moss would look pretty fucking good in larme, CPK, dolly kei, or Classic Lolita (pic related), actually.
No. 298632
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>>298626Do you know what ageplayers look like? Because I'm not seeing the similarities, lmao.
No. 298634
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>>298630Nothing about her outfit looks 12 years old, just vintage and non-sexual. She looks pretty, because she is, and her outfit suits her.
You just sound very angry and bitter, possibly because you don't think you can wear the same thing and look as good, which I don't get.
I'd look retarded dressed up as a punk, but that doesn't compel me to attack the fashion.
No. 298635
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>>298628do you think this looks good on her? because she kind of just makes her look more like a dweeb and the outfit looks poorly made. trying too hard to look high quality but isn't.
>>298624>What children's outfits look like this? We've gone over why the design looks the way it looks (ie based on media commonly aimed at children), but where do you live that kids dress like this?i've already explained to you that children's dresses have short bodices with fluffed skirts because they don't need to accommodate breasts. that's how these outfits are often designed. this dress is designed exactly like this baby dress. literally.
>>298632wew, because ageplayers only dress in literal onesies, ok.
>>298634you said you don't wear lolita but you're sooo asshurt over it being attacked i find it impossible for that to be true.
No. 298637
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>>298634I don't even know why Lolita's bother arguing that Lolita isn't childish especially when there's so much emphasis on tea parties and stuffed animals. Then your main attack is "you're just jealous because you can't wear it!", which is such a stupid insult because surely if one could afford to spend that much on clothes there are much nicer and classy clothing they can buy, instead of wasting it on a dead fashion that isn't even cool anymore.
No. 298638
>>298616your thinking is incredibly black and white. i agree that equating all lolita fashion with literal ageplayers is a bit of a broad exaggeration, but you look irrational as fuck insisting the opposite, that there's no relevant connection to children or childlike qualities at all. of course there is.
I like wearing leather jackets and vests. I'm not a biker, fetishist, or daddy dom, and I think it's fine to wear leather if you just like a tough classic look. If someone said I must be a secret bdsm fetishist or in a biker gang because of my clothes, that would be silly, but it would also be ridiculous if i denied that leather jackets have ANYTHING to do with those groups, just because I'M not in them. get it?
No. 298639
>>298635>complains about not liking the outfit and calls it "poorly made" (even though there's a pretty good chance it costs more than most farmers could afford), but still has no argumentAgain, what child-aged character or child can you point to that looks that way? Are you just going to go on about how tacky it is, even though we were talking about it being childish, not ugly?
>wew, because ageplayers only dress in literal onesies, ok.You seem to know a lot more about ageplay than I do (or ever care to), anon. Hmmm.
>i've already explained to you that children's dresses have short bodices with fluffed skirts because they don't need to accommodate breasts. that's how these outfits are often designed. Post a child wearing that outfit or something similar. Not just a poofy dress (even though to you, all large dresses = baby, obviously), but the whole ensemble.
>this dress is designed exactly like this baby dress. literally.Now I know you're talking out of your ass. The dress stops at the waist to emphasize thinness, not the chest.
>you said you don't wear lolita but you're sooo asshurt over it being attacked i find it impossible for that to be true.I'm not asshurt, and I was talking about Jfash as a whole. You just seem to have gone off the deep end when it came to Lolita, and that makes me wonder.
No. 298647
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>>298637>Sweet Lolita = All Lolita!!I already pointed out Sweet being the only substyle that can actually be considered childish, but go off.
Tea parties are a Victorian tradition, for fuck's sake. Way to grasp.
>main attackWhat attack? What insult? I honestly think people who obsess over Jfash being "childish" and then resort to petty shit like insinuating they make a pretty woman less pretty must have some personal stakes. If I'm wrong, correct me and explain the vitriol in
>>298630.
>wasting it on a dead fashion that isn't even cool anymore.Caring about being "cool" and trendy is childish as fuck. Thank you for essentially confirming that you have misguided ideas on adulthood, and are most likely mentally still a child.
No. 298651
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>>298641>>298644>>298645>exactly the sameThis is far from "exactly the same".
No. 298653
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>>298651Please stop being in denial anon lol
No. 298654
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>>298644the anon they're responding to is denying with all her might that they're based on kids clothes tho.
>>298645yep
>>298639>Again, what child-aged character or child can you point to that looks that way? Are you just going to go on about how tacky it is, even though we were talking about it being childish, not ugly?you were posting the photo to show it looks good and would look good on kate moss. i was just saying, it does look like shit and it looks cheap. and major fucking lol @ you thinking expensive clothing = high quality, lmfaooooo
>Now I know you're talking out of your ass. The dress stops at the waist to emphasize thinness, not the chest. bitch W-H-E-R-E??? this is the waist to you??????????????? are you blind? maybe go back to anatomy class?
No. 298658
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>>298651anon pls do you really want to have a cherry picked image fight? you need to relax and stop caring so much about what others think.
does taking fashion inspiration from this child make you a sick monster? nah
does taking fashion inspiration from this child make you an ageplayer? not necessarily.
does taking fashion inspiration from this child mean you are wearing childlike clothes inspired by children? YES
No. 298659
I personally thinks venus looks ugly not due to the type of clothing she's wearing, but due to the fact that it doesn't suit her at all. That's what's making her look like she's wearing child's clothes. The girl in
>>298637 look childish, but cute, venus looks like an old lady in something that's not made for her to wear.
No. 298661
>>298648This just sounds like projection, or like you didn't read. Anons were insisting it looks like ageplay, while I drew links to fantasy, gothic clothing and Victorian-era clothes. I never denied its link to Victorian children's clothes (because any sensible person would reason Victorian children's clothing falls under the category of Victorian clothing as a whole), I was explicitly talking about actual, more recent children's clothes. Like, today or your grandparents. Where is the ageplay?
>>298650There are different types of beauty, some of which look good in clothes others don't.
>>298652>you were posting the photo to show it looks good and would look good on kate moss. i was just saying, it does look like shit and it looks cheap. and major fucking lol @ you thinking expensive clothing = high quality, lmfaoooooAgain, you just sound angry as fuck for no reason. She looks good. Kate Moss would still look like Kate Moss in vintage clothes. Clothing that's expensive is usually expensive because of the fabric used, sorry to break it to you.
>bitch W-H-E-R-E??? this is the waist to you??????????????? are you blind?She is fat, so you can't see her waist. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Did you not see the other photos I posted?
>>298655I stated my opinion on some things I've read, and then you decided to jump in and get buttmad. Now I'm just explaining my point.
>>298653>>298658See first response.
No. 298664
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>>298661ok, so you're thinking that because there's victorian adult women's clothes like this, that any child comparison is moot, right?
the thing is, it goes both ways. people shouldn't assume you're dressing like a child because you actually have this vision in mind, but you also don't get to decide that lolita has nothing to do with children just because it doesn't in your personal execution of it. it's a publicly available fashion style without a bible or figurehead, so anyone gets to decide what exactly they're trying to express or emulate with it, and if the public doesn't get that vision, that's your own problem
No. 298670
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>>298661>>298661>Again, you just sound angry as fuck for no reason. She looks good. Kate Moss would still look like Kate Moss in vintage clothes. Clothing that's expensive is usually expensive because of the fabric used, sorry to break it to you.but that's not the case here. and you tried to claim it being expensive means it doesn't look poorly made and cheap? i know plenty of lolita and steampunk, goth, etc, stuff that is very expensive but does look very tacky and poorly made. it doesn't mean anything for it to be expensive. and that woman does not look good in that style, i'm sorry.
>She is fat, so you can't see her waist. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Did you not see the other photos I posted?anon, look at the photo again, please. why is this cut in the middle of where her breasts should be? it is not meant to accentuate the waist at all. at all.
>>298664though these bare some resemblance, these outfits are designed for women's figures. to emphasize the breasts, hips, and waist, specifically. to emphasize female maturity.
this
>>298658 is not. there is a stark difference in their design. just being ruffley isn't enough to say they're sooo close to being the same, really.
No. 298673
>>298664it's like with goth right. if you wear a slightly gothy outfit you might have bauhaus and sisters of mercy in mind as your reference, but then someone comes along and assumes you're trying to emulate toopoor type soundclout girls or monster high kek. they're wrong about you specifically, but you also can't wipe the toopoor association from the collective consciousness no matter how hard you try, especially since there are real goth girls out there actually trying to look like toopoor, so you can't argue "no, my look has NOTHING to do with soundclout! nothing at all!" all you can do is explain your personal ideas and inspirations, not try to change the entire public perception about a popular style.
even if you were first, or you have some really nuanced idea you're trying to embody that nobody gets, or you're more educated, or you think you have better taste, the public still has their own impressions and associations when they see you, and you can't force them to not have those associations. it hurts but it's part of being in a subculture.
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>>298664it really doesn't look all that similar to me imo. the shapes of the dresses are entirely different.
>>298672but it wouldn't. i'm short and slim and there's absolutely no way this would reach past my tits and accentuate my waist. do you guys think petite women have 3 inch torsos? she's fat and too big for this, but how are you guys denying that this isn't meant to go above the waist and definitely isn't meant to highlight it?
No. 298676
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>>298664I'm saying that a clothing style based on fantasy/gothic/Victorian pieces that makes use of "cute" imagery is not ageplay-ish. It's erroneous to make that assumption.
My original point was on J-fashion as a whole, though, and how being cute is not necessarily the same as being a child.
>>298666I'm still not a Lolita, I just know about it and other J-fashion because that's one of my interests. Ask the sperg drawing on pictures and cropping them to stop shitting up the thread, I'm just replying to people insulting me.
>>298668*Victorian era children
And even IW and MMM have more generally adult Victorian pieces. AP and BTSSB are explicitly Sweet, which is actually childlike, obviously.
>>298670>i know plenty of lolita and steampunk, goth, etc, stuff that is very expensive but does look very tacky and poorly made.Usually from shitty Etsy brands, not though you probably can't tell the difference.
>and that woman does not look good in that style, i'm sorry.She does, though, otherwise you never would've admitted she was pretty. I'm not in the business of changing your opinion, though, so I'll let that rest.
>anon, look at the photo again, please. why is this cut in the middle of where her breasts should be? it is not meant to accentuate the waist at all. at all.She. Is. Fat.
How many times are you going to ignore this fact?
>though these bare some resemblance, these outfits are designed for women's figures.So, in your eyes, do
>>298647 and pic related do not count as Lolita now? It's Victorian-based, not just "children's clothes". This is what you're refusing to see because you're dead-set on your ageplay obsession.
Also,
>>298658 is not actually Lolita, just an example of something that would blend with
>>298664 to make the fashion, so your comparison is moot. You're fixated with children's images and refuse to see literally anything else.
No. 298678
>>298596My unpopular opinion is, that if I saw somebody walking on the streets like this, I'd probably couldn't help but laugh or at least grin. Sorry, but that's just how your average person reacts.
The thing is, most people wearing that shit
think that it somehow doesn't look cringy on them, that they're the exception, that they're sm0l enough and look younger than their actual age. But they don't.
I wasn't part of this convo until now, but this is literally the first line of wikipedia's article about lolita:
>Lolita (ロリータ・ファッション rorīta fasshon) is a fashion subculture from Japan that is highly influenced by Victorian and Edwardian children's clothing and styles from the Rococo period.And further down:
>History>Although the origin of the fashion is unclear, it is likely that the movement started at the end of the 1960s with the fashion style and subculture Natural Kei, which romanticized the Victorian Period. At the end of the 1970s, this resulted in a new movement known as Otome-kei, which slightly influenced Lolita fashion since Otome means maiden and maiden style looks like a lesser elaborated Lolita style. Before Otome-kei emerged, there was already a rise of the cuteness culture in the earlier seventies; during which there was a high emphasis on cute and childish handwriting in Japanese schools.Plus the name… makes denying that it is influenced by kid's clothing rather difficult, no?
No. 298681
>>298679>>298679that's really not what you said.
>not to disagree with you, but this pic looks like that cause the girl is too fucking big to wear the dress. i'm sure it would look more shapely on a shorter, petite girl, rather than someone…not.you said it'd look more shapely on someone smaller. the cut is obviously not designed to look any bit more shapely. don't backtrack and then insult me like it's my fault. it would obviously look better on someone smaller, but more shapely? no.
No. 298691
>>298678>My unpopular opinion is, that if I saw somebody walking on the streets like this, I'd probably couldn't help but laugh or at least grin. Sorry, but that's just how your average person reacts.That's fine, but how is it an unpopular opinion if it's how the average person reacts?
Not liking something, or thinking it looks funny is not the same as insisting only 12 year olds wear it. I wasn't talking about people who just think it's ugly.
The rest of your point is, like you said, an opinion. No point in trying to argue about taste. If all wearers look old and shitty to you, that's you.
>Lolita (ロリータ・ファッション rorīta fasshon) is a fashion subculture from Japan that is highly influenced by Victorian and Edwardian children's clothing and styles from the Rococo period.This is what I've been saying, actually. It's Victorian-based fashion, while others claimed it looks like ageplay.
>Plus the name… makes denying that it is influenced by kid's clothing rather difficult, no?The name isn't "organic", it came from the person who made it semi-popular (Mana) using it in combination with a girl's name that sounded suitably edgy/dark.
If you've read or watched Lolita, the aesthetic and time period is wrong for the fashion, as well.
>>298682>but you keep denying any relevant association with childrenI literally said it's based on Victorian children's clothing (as well as adult's) multiple times, meanwhile
>>298670 was trying to disavow any connection to
>>298664 because they can't accept that it's not ageplay. Calm down and reread my post. Jfc.
No. 298695
>>298692This is an argument used by retards, and by actual ageplayers trying to force themselves into the fashion.
The fashion and the book are separate, and the fashion existed before it was given the name "Lolita", which is, again, an unfitting misnomer.
If you knew what clothing in both time periods looked like, you would not be conflating the two. Lolita was not written as a Rococo-era piece.
Actual Lolita-based fashion would be that Tumblr "nymphet" thing, and it looks nothing like the pics ITT.
No. 298700
>>298695if this is too confusing for you, let me simplify it
>lolita complex means little girl complex, which was derived from the book>lolita fashion uses the term lolita from lolita complex>lolita fashion means little girl fashionso it's not so much that mana named it after the book, but he named it after lolita as used in a japanese context. it's not that hard, mana didn't pull the term from nowhere, the term lolita complex became popular right before he decided on that term for his fashion. lolita was designed around looking like creepy porcelain dolls anyways
No. 298705
>>298701Because Mana (or whoever else coined it) is a dumbass who probably never read the book himself to understand that it wouldn't fit, but thought it sounded cool and that it fit the dark/innocent motifs.
>>298700>lolita fashion uses the term lolita from lolita complexThis is where you're wrong, or it would've been called "Lolicon kei" or "Lolicon fashion".
>lolita was designed around looking like creepy porcelain dolls anywaysWhich has pretty much nothing to do with pedo shit, and more to do with looking like something out of a gothic portrait or film.
>>298703>mana wasn't the first to use the word, it was already being usedHe was, for the clothing style.
No. 298706
>>298702Anyone who thinks Mana didn't take the term from "lolicon" is in denial. Even Japanese lolita admit it. Sure, he didn't take it from the book, and no it's not supposed to be nymphet shit, but he didn't invent the term. Just search this stuff on girlschan, only
triggered western lolitas deny this shit.
No. 298711
>>298705> it would've been called "Lolicon kei" or "Lolicon fashion". Anon said it uses
lolita from lolita complex, not that is uses
lolita complex in it's entirety. Lolicon refers to the pedos.
No. 298712
>>298710anon, please try to listen. i'm saying that he took the word lolita, which was already used to mean little girl, and applied it to the fashion. no one is implying it is a lolicon fashion, just that he thought that word was cool and it already carried the connotations he had in mind. also yes,
>>298691 is saying that mana just used an edgy girl's name randomly. it's the biggest knee-jerk reaction from lolitas to say the term was pulled out of mana's ass.
all i'm trying to say is that lolita already meant little girl, not that the fashion has to do with lolicon.
No. 298716
>>298712Then what did you mean by
>>298692>>people who still think that lolita doesn't have anything to do with "lolita"Because we've already both conceded that it doesn't.
>saying that mana just used an edgy girl's name randomly.Why do you think it's edgy? Because of the subject matter. The issue is the lack of relation to the fashion except to those unfamiliar with the actual content of the book and films.
>all i'm trying to say is that lolita already meant little girl, not that the fashion has to do with lolicon.I'm not disagreeing with this. I apologize if you're not actually this anon
>>298692.
No. 298721
>>298715>??? Are you thick? No one said the fashion is derived from lolicon, we're just pointing out that the word lolita was already in use in Japan to mean little girl,No one said it wasn't.
>but Mana likely though the term lolita, when used to refer to little girls, sounded coolSo, exactly what I said here:
>The name isn't "organic", it came from the person who made it semi-popular (Mana) using it in combination with a girl's name that sounded suitably edgy/dark.I wasn't claiming he invented the term, I was saying he coined it
as the name of the fashion. If you agree the fashion isn't based on the book
or pedo shit, there's literally nothing to argue about.
No. 298724
>>298716i'm not that anon, but i see how you may be confused. i don't think mana got it from the book. i don't think the fashion is based on the book or lolicon, but i think the name is definitely based on lolita as from lolita complex, because the term lolita was circulating at the time he coined the name. it's not a coincidence.
the name doesn't mean it's based on any of those things, but a lot of lolitas plug their ears when you try to mention that the name is based on anything.
No. 298728
>>298727Subjective opinions are
your truth, not the entire world's.
Thinking about fashion styles you don't even like long enough to contemplate money spent and get pissed off enough to call it garbage seems irrational, is all I'm saying.
No. 298732
>>298729i'll agree with this. most japanese fashion is cheaply made because china is right over there, and usually the reason it's really expensive is the exclusive designs. every brand and their mom has their own special prints with logos, their own buttons, their own branding on bags and such, because they can just fucking go to china.
i only really buy second hand stuff because it's not worth it.
No. 298736
>>298734You really typed all this unhinged shit as if I didn't already point out the influence from Victorian children's fashion.
At this point, just admit you're an adult baby/ageplayer, and you're mad other people aren't as well. That's the only reason I can think of for your weird fixation on children and babies and strawmanning.
No. 298741
>>298739See
>>298721If I'm platinum retarded, you must be certifiably brainless because of your complete lack of reading comprehension.
No. 298744
>>298742>you're the only one who thinks "childlike fashion" and immediately jumps to ddlg, ageplay, and lolicon.Except
>>298608 >>298610>>298626>>298635and several others. Again, read the conversation before hopping in. This is like the third time you've ignored that I literally pointed out the influence from Victorian's children fashion.
No. 298746
>>298744ITT a lolita pretending she isn't lolita becomes
triggered by people making fun of her fashion even though she doesn't wear it
I fucking swear. Stop arguing just to fucking argue. Penus looks like fucking Margo when she used to wear her clothes. Most lolitas are ugly and look like shit in the clothes so the clothes look like they're for children.
No. 298748
>>298746If I were a Lolita, I would've brought up Lolita first. And IDGAF about Japanese fashion being made fun of (it's alternative fashion, so of course that will happen), it's the ageplayers and people insecure about their own age constantly projecting about pedophile shit. Keep strawmanning, though.
>Most lolitas are ugly and look like shit in the clothes so the clothes look like they're for children.So, all clothes that are ugly and look like shit are for children? Makes sense.
Stop replying already.
No. 298749
>>298747>i just came into the conversation.No wonder you're so lost. You don't know what you're even talking about, and that makes you doubly retarded for acting like you do.
I never even posted about Venus, I posted about J-fashion itself, dumbfuck. You would see that if you knew how to scroll up.
No. 298753
>>298749the whole reason this convo started was about venus. and some of the people you were quoting as evidence were explicitly talking about her.
it's not hard to fucking understand a conversation while lurking.
No. 298756
>>298753It all started because of my post, which wasn't about Venus at all, even though she was tangentially related.
They were talking to me, and I didn't touch on any discussion points about Venus because that wasn't what or who I was discussing.
>>298754>Because you seem to be acting like you've been here since the beginning of the conversation, yet you're claiming it wasn't you? Okay.Who am I claiming wasn't me? I said I never talked about Venus, which I wasn't.
>>298596 was my first post, please go ahead and show me where it talks about Venus in any way, shape or form.
No. 298758
>>298163>>298153I feel super bad for any teacher or care taker who has to deal with male autists.
I work in a thrift store/second hand shop and one time this lil autistic shit was climbing our shelves to get to a toy and i asked him to get down before he hurt himself. Then he started screaming. I asked where his mom was and he legit punched me in the tit.
i went to a coworker and his mom was aisles away. She didn't even care when i told him her little demon spawn assaulted me. We escorted them out the store.
No. 298760
>>298756Lol no, it started from
>>298507 post.
No. 298763
>>298760What is "it" to you? Because I'm talking about my standalone post and the responses to me afterward.
If that's not what you meant, I don't know why you involved me and pointed fingers.
No. 298764
>>298001It's like giving them a pity trophy and if you dont agree, you're racist or something? It's ridiculous how people are now shamed into believing this is beauty, brave or normal.
>>298190I got into an argument a few months ago with a friend of a friend about this. I believe the Netherlands encourages women to abort if they're fetus is very likely to be born with down syndrome. The friend or a friend told me that it's wrong and all babies are beautiful. bleh bleh and went on a moral high ground tangent. She even thought she government should pay for all disabled babies throughout their lifetime.
No. 298767
>>298764it's like if you were against boxing because you don't like the violence, so instead of just not contributing it, you gave a championship belt to someone with no arms, all "see?! even non-violent people who aren't able bodied can be boxing champs!!!"
like…what is the logic here? is it that she really should be a model because of current modeling standards in place, or is it that current beauty standards are mean so lets say someone who doesn't fit them are actually beautiful? because if it's the latter, you're basically rewarding her for absolutely nothing. make your own damn fashion show.
No. 298777
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>>298601did you know that lolita has the reputation in japan of being a fashion for ugly, chubby girls? of course "chubby" in japan is different than chubby in the west. but lolita was never meant to be only worn by girls under the age of 21.
No. 298778
>>298772exactly. i don't even object to her modeling. if she can pose and walk and people legitimately want to hire her, more power to her. but they're using fucking victoria's secret and its established structure to virtue signal.
if a modeling agency had a wide range of models ranging from ugly to average to pretty, but they were all super talented when it comes to the physicality of modeling, i think that would be pretty cool.
but a runway that's all 10s and then a few deformed people? not very fucking convincing
No. 298855
>>298853That's not really what I mean. It's the sort of things that's good on paper but if literally nobody aborts their down syndrome fetus, that would mean way more dependent people to take care of, which means more money to spend on them, and most likely the same amount of money coming from taxpayers or more, which means more taxes to pay, etc. But as I said, I don't know about the Netherlands' situation when it comes to healthcare.
Sure, free healthcare for disabled people is great and all but combine that with what her friend said (or yours, idk if that was your post):
>I believe the Netherlands encourages women to abort if they're fetus is very likely to be born with down syndrome. The friend or a friend told me that it's wrong and all babies are beautiful.>it's wrong and all babies are beautiful.Then that's fucking stupid. Especially when there are people who also need free healthcare and who deserve it or need it way more.
No. 298885
>>298853Do you realize how huge a country America is (north america) compared to the Netherlands? You sound really uneducated. Not to mention a lot of people dont want to deal with extremely disabled or autistic kids but are bullied into it as a caretaker half the time. They want to act all brave, but they know seeing those kids on the daily probably makes them appreciate having normal kids or no kids at all.
I used to get this father and (adult) son that came into my shop a lot and at first i didn't know how to react. He would shout at nothing and get violent if he didnt get the toy he wanted at the register. You can praise the parents for having patience to deal with that, but in the end, you know they're suffering inside and made a terrible decision.
I'd rather have our tax dollars go to help kids in adoption centers, rather than dealing with people who choose to have fucked up babies on purpose to seem brave or because 'all children are beautiful!!11'
No. 298957
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I don't get why so many anons are losing their shit over people abusing animals. Yes it's horrible, but you do realize that exactly the same nasty shit is done to women and even children every single day as well?
But if it's animals suddenly everybody cares and "feels like crying". If somebody kills a child it's tragic, but if e.g. that one tranny from a few days ago shoots his chihuahua he's a psycho who should get the death penalty. Not because he killed his own parents, no, because he killed an animal.
I wish people would care more about humans.
You might say this belongs in the dog hate thread, but just as an example; people seem to care more about animals starving than human's starving. Why is that?
No. 298973
>>298957cause animals are completely dependent on us and can't even ask for help. a lot of people that hate violence towards animals react the same to cruelty against women, children, elderly and any innocent soul.
as for the homeless guy story - blame the 'homeless people are all junkie, druggie trash and don't deserve help'.
No. 298998
>>298920100% agreed. And I think once someone's at a high level of fluency they shouldn't be immune to having mistakes pointed out, second language or not.
I've also noticed that the people who are very obviously ESL speakers won't often apologize for their English or mention it's their second language.
No. 299012
>>298998I know the whole "sorry, English is not my first language" thing can be annoying, but from an ESL perspective a lot of the kids that write that are just out of hs, where they learn English, and are just beginning to post on the English speaking side of the internet after a couple o years of lurking. Their English might seem fine but I can bet a lot of them google a lot of spellings and grammatical structures before posting a simple Youtube comment, so I can understand why they would feel paranoid that their English is still not good enough to communicate with natives.
tl;dr:
ESL kids often feel very anxious about typing in English and adding a disclaimer to their comments calms them down.
No. 299160
>>298957I personally care about both people and animals.
It's easier for people to stan for animals because there's a label that they are all unconditionally innocent and helpless, like babies, regardless if it's actually true or not. I've noticed when something happens to an older child, teenager, or adult, a lot of people are stingy with the empathy because they always assume the victims are not 100% innocent. "Hungry? Then why doesn't that homeless eat a can of dog food," and the issue is looked at no further.
It's just easier to love an entity that someone can project their feelings onto and can't talk back. People feel big for doing small things for animals because to help a human requires so much more.
In your example, it's easier to give a dog a $1 can of food because the dog can't articulate that maybe it didn't like the food, that it's still hungry, the reason why it's unable to procure food of its own, and by the way it needs more food later.
Imagine if animals could talk and express
gasp ingratitude, insatiability, laziness, and greed.
No. 299171
>>299166NTA, but humans have proven to be shit time and time again. They can't even be nice to each other if their skin doesn't match colors (or even if it does), talk less of other species or the environment. We serve no real purpose to our surroundings or the global "system" the same way other animals do, we just take up resources, shit up the air and make the world a worse place for everyone (even ourselves).
Realistically, it'd be for the best if the next big disease or natural disaster just fucking killed us off. It's not edgy, it's just life.
No. 299172
>>299171I agree with you.
It's difficult to state something like this because then you get asked, "Well, why don't you kill yourself?".
But I think a lot of people share the same opinion.
There's the edgy Pentti Linkola. However, he lost my respect when I learned that he had kids since he's the one preaching against having them.
I think the closest to reality was Ted Kaczynski because he wanted the pre-industrial society.
Without the postindustrial technology and advancement, the humankind could keep itself in check numbers-wise.
I hate the consumerist society today which only makes the environmental crisis worse.
And while I can recognize many benefits in the field of medicine, science in general etc., I don't think the majority of people deserve them, including me.
Nature would be better off on its own.
We bring imbalance. We produce waste. We take and take and don't give back.
There are a few individuals fighting (not Green Peace, fuck them) but the fight's already lost since the late 80s.
No. 299175
>>299171>can't even be nice to each other Animals are often not nice to each other outside their own kin and groups.
>talk less of other species How do you know animals don't think less of other animals? Predators at least have to.
>and of their environment Which they have no ability to conceptualize.
>we serve no real purpose We do, it's just that our overpopulation and technologies have removed us from our role in nature. If technology left tomorrow and a few billion died off the planet for reasons, maybe we'd go back to shitting fruit seeds in the woods.
It's edgy because not every single human needs to die in order for the planet to start healing itself.
I don't see anyone stepping into a suicide booth.
No. 299184
>>299175Animals are, for the most part, methodical and civil. They kill and eat as needed. They don't systemically attempt to wipe masses of other species out in droves for abstract reasons, or out of sadism.
Humans are not the same. They'll kill each other for looking different, because their made-up religion says so, or that one time some guy was rude.
>How do you know animals don't think less of other animals? Predators at least have to.I meant humans are also shit to other species, not just their own.
>Which they have no ability to conceptualize.Animals? Nope, animals are pretty good at understanding and working within the parameters of their habitat and the environments therein. They have to be in order to survive. Humans don't work with it, they just destroy shit so they can avoid it because it's all too hard and they'd rather focus on contemplating their navels, killing each other for fun and drawing pictures.
>It's edgy because not every single human needs to die in order for the planet to start healing itself.Who can we be sure won't just go back to "the old ways" and shit up the planet again? It's better to eliminate the risk and do away with them all. The only reason to keep them around is self-centered (on human's part) sentimentality.
>I don't see anyone stepping into a suicide booth.A human's in-born will to live doesn't make it worth keeping around. If a leech is sucking your blood, you don't just stare at it and say "This little guy is eating because he just wants to live, so I can't kill it :(". You kill it for causing you damage and being a parasite.
No. 299186
>>299184299175
>methodical and civilHumans are too.
>They kill and eat as needed. Many humans do this.
>don't systemically attempt to wipe masses of other species Very few individuals personally do this or are responsible for this.
>out of sadism When's the last time you killed an animal for funsies?
>I meant humans are shit to other species I got exactly what you meant.
Look up the behaviors of dolphins and animals who rape and torture other species for fun.
>working within the parameters of their habitat and the environments thereinAnimals are often unable to work with their environments and some even destroy them.
>humans kill for fun and draw picturesLmao, are you trying to be funny or what. What a leap.
>Who can we be sure won't just go back to "the old ways" and shit up the planet again?So rather than answer this question it's better to kill everyone just in case? Sounds sadistic. Is this all projection for you? Because you sound really unreasonable with that.
>you don't let leeches live Well, are leeches not animals with important roles in the environment? Can't say I would enjoy the idea of a leech on me, but if I found one I wouldn't begrudge it for just trying to survive.
What the hell anon?
No. 299191
>>299186>Humans are too. If that were the case, we wouldn't have been responsible for exterminating other entire species out of recreational hunting.
>Many humans do this. Obviously, not enough.
>Very few individuals personally do this or are responsible for this. Enough do, and co-sign it. Little to none do much to actually stop it.
>When's the last time you killed an animal for funsies? Me, as an individual? Never. But swathes of other people? People we all know who hunt for fun? People who torture stray cats and dogs? Those furries from the fucking vent thread who started an entire system of necrozoophilic rape? It's not as uncommon as you're trying to paint at all.
>I got exactly what you meant. Look up the behaviors of dolphins and animals who rape and torture other species for fun. Is there a document comparing numbers abused/killed?
>Animals are often unable to work with their environments and some even destroy them. Which ones? If they do it on the same scale as humans, they should go too.
>So rather than answer this question it's better to kill everyone just in case? Sounds sadistic. Is this all projection for you? Because you sound really unreasonable with that. How is it sadistic? What do humans bring to the table? It's just pragmatic. And I asked you the question, so instead of accusing me of "projecting" erroneously, feel free to come up with an answer that's more convenient and fool-proof than simple prevention.
>Well, are leeches not animals with important roles in the environment? Can't say I would enjoy the idea of a leech on me, but if I found one I wouldn't begrudge it for just trying to survive.So, you'd let a leech suck you dry and kill you because it's trying to survive? Self-destructive, but okay.
No. 299199
>>299193agreed. im original anon who mentioned it and im lucky, its just this one thing that bothers me.
>>299178i mean, not me, or my gay white friends. idk if ur trying to call me racist or not, but pretty much every gay person i know is an sjw lol. not me, but i still have human decency and understand that everyone deserves equality despite physical or cultural differences. the only time i see gay racists are gay white MALES and they usually are internet "celebrities" like Jeffree and whatnot. i am not male, anon.
No. 299205
>>299102I actually "broke up" with a few online friends because of exactly this.
We had one shared interest and got along super well because of it, but they constantly had to derail our conversations by shitting on
whities. Nearly all of us were white to begin with, but - on top of being all "trans and non binary" and whatnot - they all found one tiny thing in their blood line that makes them an oppressed poc. They constantly reblogged anti-white shit on their blogs, for example "2018 is the year we come for white women". When I spoke up to them about this hurting me since I thought we're friends and well, I am definitely white, they always said that they aren't talking about me, they only mean white Americans etc. The thing is, only one of them was American to begin with. Why is an Asian woman in Asia so vocal about e.g. white people being overrepresented on American TV? I highly doubt that her country is any better in that aspect.
No. 299365
Some annoying fat white girl I know was casually talking about how she was going to learn Farsi to get a better job after graduation. I commented that Farsi speakers were rare for a reason. She said it was because people hate brown people languages because it makes you sound like a terrorist.
No, you dipshit, it's because Farsi is a difficult as fuck language to learn. It doesn't have to be about racism. It's not easy to learn another language, even Spanish, which is probably the easiest language for an English speaker to learn. I bet this bitch would love to lecture me about racism even though I'm not white and I'm bilingual. (I'm working on Spanish and am going to be bilingual soon too)
I hate it when people act like they can casually learn a new language. This includes the time when some Mexican guy said that he would learn Arabic easily because it and Spanish are in the same language family. The ignorance is palpable, because Arabic is not even an Indo-European language. I didn't want to press on too much, especially because he would probably call me racist for not believing him.
>>299197I agree with people being more lenient towards whites. But I don't think it makes white hate justified.
>>299102I'm not white but I agree with the trend of "hating" whites is annoying. I don't think people actually hate whites. They are just getting out their frustrations is a dumb way because they lack nuance. Don't let their self-hatred get to ya.
No. 299380
>>299365Lmao tell that girl to have fun failing to learn Farsi. My parents are Iranian immigrants and although I can speak and understand the language decently, I was never formally taught reading/writing and it's a nightmare. I can't even imagine how frustrating it would be to try and learn it from scratch as someone with absolutely no connection to the language or culture.
It seems very exploitative to me, seeing white people who want to learn languages solely to seem enlightened and woke. Like, "oh look at me I learned this
ugly terrorist language because I'm so open-minded and accepting and I love brown people unlike other evil whiteys uwu"
No. 299399
>>299365I find it weird when people say they want to learn or are even learning a language based on what media they're consuming but don't even know the most basic alphabet/syllabic symbols. Like, you've been saying you want to learn Japanese the entire semester because of your mangos and animu, but you haven't even tried using Duolingo and Memrise and all these other free language resources to at least learn hiragana yet? It's dismissive of all the work that actually goes into learning another language, especially one entirely removed from your native one.
Also, did the Mexican guy mix up being in the same family with having loan words? I literally don't know how to interpret his statement any other way.
No. 299407
>>299380omg this is too perfect if you are really Iranian. The only problem is that these people are so thick-headed and never realize that there's something wrong with them. This girl will probably never get off her ass and learn Farsi but it would be fun to see her fail.
I really want to call her ass out for being a dumb white feminist but we're in the same club so it would cause way too much drama.
>>299399I think he was stupid enough to believe that loan words mean that the languages are related. But my parents are the same way. (They think Japanese and Chinese are related)
No. 299503
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Bowsette/Bowserette is so fucking retarded for the most part.
It would be good if they used the tan and red haired design but most Japanese artists draw her as a boring blonde anime girl with horns.
It's also really idiotic and reminds me of pic related
No. 299516
>>299102You've got every right to be offended and I think racism in any form is wrong regardless of the situation but at the same time I have a very difficult time sympathising with white people when it comes to racism mainly due to being discriminated against by them throughout my childhood and even to this day.
Let me repeat myself though just so I don't offend any /Pol/ chan, I don't hate white people, I don't think being racist to them is right, I just don't feel very sympathetic towards them
No. 299524
>>299516‘I don’t hate all white people I just don’t have empathy for them’
Totally not racially based.
No. 299528
>>299524Like white people aren't racially biased?
When was the last time you got racially profiled?
When was the last time you were made to feel guilty for a crime because the person who commited it happened to have the same skin colour as you?
when a white person does something bad it's mental illness, when a black or brown person does something bad they were a thug, a terrorist, and their kind should be shunned right?
It's kind of hard to sympathies with someone who has the game rigged in their favour
No. 299529
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>>299528Same anon, sorry for derailing thread, this will be my last post about this topic, moving on
No. 299540
>>299516Just the fact that you call everybody who feels offended by you not feeling any sympathy for an entire race a "/pol/chan", confirms that your're a racist cunt.
>has the game rigged in their favourAs if black people in a black country and asian people in an asian country don't do that as well…
Also, funny how you ended your posts with a "cute" anime gif, meanwhile one can practically see how seething and bitter the face of somebody writing that must look like lol
No. 299582
I hate anyone who attacks people of other races under the guise of "not being politically correct" or "having free speech", only to lose their shit when anyone says anything about their race.
It's always ridiculous how wide the gap is in either group's "humor", too.
>"So-and-so race are LITERALLY subhuman, every criminal of so-and-so race is a representative of that race. Look at this video of people of so-and-so race behaving badly! Typical so-and-so race behavior, amirite? Look at these dehumanizing comparisons between so-and-so race and animals. Here are some twisted, incorrect interpretations of science, statistical data and history, as well as obsolete skull graphs from the 1700s. No more political correctness. Haha, people of so-and-so race from this country died? Good riddance, fucking animals. I will repeat this comment on as many videos pertaining to this incident as I can. Anyone who does not like this must be a triggered [slur pertaining to that race] xDDD"
>"Oh, yeah? Well, your race spent all this time invading other cultures, killing swathes of people and taking things, and yet you still haven't figured out how to make decent food. Also, the people of your race who genocided a shitload of people, and the people who are racist even today? Really bad and fucked up. You people can be literal demons."
>"What the fuck? Why is this allowed? Why am I being held responsible for other people's actions?? You're calling us demons?? This is so racist, we are being oppressed."
I didn't attribute either behavior to single, specific races for a reason, by the way, before any hit dogs holler. I'm just sick of people having pissing contests about race in general. I wish people would just shut the fuck up unless they're trying to reconcile and make peace with each other.
No. 299598
>>299582I've seen everyone of any races do this, but we all know who does this confused shit the most.
This shit annoys me no doubt, that's why I enjoy shitposting in retaliation to them.
No. 299611
>>299603They don't lmao. Not in my experience.
Entry-level weebs and nerds do a little bit, but any normfag who has never been too far into games or anime would have no idea what madness you're speaking about.
Maybe you just live in an overaturation of casual weebs though.
No. 299617
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>>299611Yeah you're right, I just said that to get some responses tbh.
People on 4chan keep saying "NORMAL FAGS LIKE THIS MEME SO WE'RE TAKING OVER THE WORLD" and ironically, I took the position of you and said only entry-level weebs and nerds pay attention to that shit.
I think 4channers get nerds who aren't super into being contrarian and anti-social confused with normalfags for some reason.
No. 299640
>>299633NTA but
>what is hyperboleTake this virtue signalling energy to something that's actually worth it, not defending racist trolls on anonymous sites. He probably says worse shit daily.
No. 299658
>>299649oh, not you. I was actually talking about the anon you were replying too, this one:
>>299610that retarded race superiority complex bullshit is usually always perpetrated by males and only men and attention whores who seek approval from men use smug anime girl reaction pictures tbqh
No. 299678
>>299658Ah. Yeah I see what you mean.
>>299653Okay? I'm not even that anon that person was referring to though.
No. 299785
>>299621I have to agree. Japanese artist get all types of praise for doing the most basic shit. As long as the coloring is pleasing, they eyes big enough and the body as unrealistic as possible they are considered artistic gods. Draw some anime or something cutsey and it will get likes and hearts like no tommarow.
It really gets annoying when Western artist actaully have a nice style, but it gets shitted on because… its Western. Im so done with Weeb Japan culture and all its American counterparts.
No. 299833
>>299785When are we gonna finally rid ourselves of the Weeb cancer that's been infecting the West for the past 20 years?
Holy shit, I know I'm a fan of Japanese media that's directed to and stylized for Western audiences but come on
No. 300657
>>300653To continue before some retard who can't read REEEs at me:
To add on.. the thing about even with very small labiad women is that when they're aroused their labia becomes visible and clitoris hood too so the fact they also draw their girls like they're unaroused is weird.
No. 300671
>>300653yeah i know exactly what you're talking about. i have really small labia and puffy cameltoe (sorry if that's a humblebrag) but it doesn't look like that. like you said, even the smallest of innie labia is still labia.
best case scenario is just that it's drawn by repressed virgin nerds who have perverted fantasies but are too weirdly prudish about irl sex to actually look up a real reference pic, even from porn, so they just imagine what they think an ideal pussy might look like. it's more likely than you might think
No. 300685
>>300653>genital mutilation somali pussiesThanks for putting that into words for me. I'd always thought that but couldn't describe it right.
It's especially creepy when the girls don't have any pubes either. I sincerely hope these artist don't think that's what normal pussies look like, but if you were to tell them that their gooning fans would probably call you a jealous roastie.
yeah… Jealous of a cartoon picture. I just can't with these dick-in-hand virgin goons.
No. 300689
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I think that especially during the last decade, the bar for female beauty standards has been raised a lot, too much in my opinion.
Take three actresses who were considered beautiful in the 90s: Jennifer Aniston, Sarah Michelle Gellar and Jennifer Love Hewitt. If they came out right now and not in the 90s, the general public would've considered them average or even ugly.
I feel that now beauty is more of a "list of specific features to check" rather than how balanced/interesting a face looks. Almond, catlike eyes? Check. Button nose? Check. Big lips? Check. Okay, you're beautiful. (Bonus points if chiseled cheekbones, blue or green eyes and tan skin)
Of course it's not always like this blah blah, but generally speaking, this is my sensation.
No. 300733
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>>300689Agreed I feel like all the girls I see on IG are starting to look the same…
No. 300743
>>292902I've had to stop talking to a close friend because she only replies with a photo or video of her snot-covered 1 year old. i've dealt with this for a year now and it still looks the EXACT SAME stop sending me photos.
its making my ovaries want to dry up and blow away
No. 300753
>>300749I legit said this the other day! except I said sectioned but still, they creep me out so much. It's like they are permanently in a dystopian world of disney sorts.
to your second point ++ with coffee
No. 300760
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>>300733We've all seen Cindy's before, but this is Sonia's…
and it drives me nuts that they can't even keep their photoshopping consistent pic to pic
No. 301591
Here's mine:
Cats are cute and I have no ill will towards them at all. My issue is people who allow their cats to roam freely. ESPECIALLY intact male cats. Here's why
>unaltered male cats piss on everything
Including my neighbors front door who had an indoor female cat
>unaltered cats reproduce incessantly.
The same neighbors cat who pissed all over everything, got another outdoor cat pregnant. The neighbor didn't let the cat inside ever. They put an opening in their crawl space for it to live and its babies started living there too. The idiot owner denied the kittens were spawned by her cat. Even though their markings were the same and the kittens followed the dad cat around everywhere
>roaming cats shit everywhere
It was really fun when I was planting some flowers in the flower bed on MY property and I ended up touching cat shit with my bare hands. It had dug a hole there, shit, and kicked dirt over it.
>they decimate wildlife, including endangered species
Have fun finding bloody dead birds in your yard and feathers everywhere.
>the cats get hurt because their owners are lazy entitled assholes
I've seen so many run over, flattened cats its ridiculous. Not to mention cats fighting each other and causing fatal abscesses and FIV. Sickos end up hurting outdoor cats in droves.
Predators eat them. I live near a desert and have seen half a dozen missing cat posters. Fucking dumbasses, we have coyotes and hawks out here. Your cat was probably their lunch because MUH CAT WANTS TO BE FREE.
No other pet owners let their domestic pet out free and susceptible to dangers like cat owners. Walk your cat, get a catio, get a higher fence or keep your kitty inside. Otherwise you're a negligent, selfish, entitled asshole IMO.
All other cat owners who dont do this: we cool.
No. 301708
>>301591I'm a cat person and I totally agree. I have to suppress my "you're fucking stupid" face whenever someone mentions they let their cat outside unattended. Like ignoring the environmental damage cats can do, you really love your fluffball enough to have them risk disease or painful death?
I wonder how much of this has to do with people perceiving cats as "passive" companions or that the average pet owner shouldn't have any pet at all.
No. 301807
>>301806i think the outdated idea of "don't hit women" is fucking stupid.
no one should hit
anyone and people who are hitting women aren't going to listen anyways, so it's really just manipulating people like that guy into abusive relationships cause it translates out to "don't defend yourself at all."
No. 301812
>>301772I feel you. One time years ago on the vent thread of a forum I said that people with mental illnesses shouldn't have kids. I was bashed by a bunch of snowflakes who used "We're all equal!!" as their argument.
I still stand by my opinion, it's straight out selfish to ruin the life of one or multiple innocents because you want "baybees"
No. 301852
>>301591I don't really have much of an opinion on the topic but it made me laugh because it sounds like you keep updated on neighbourhood cat affairs.
Imagine a lolcat
>making memes about shitty cats >can't believe fluffy thinks she's still a small uwu kitten>look at those ham toebeansSage for retarded stream of consciousness
No. 301916
>>301900>>301907I hope you
>>301900 are not a robot in disguise but I agree with both of you. This is a huge reason why I got tired of feminism (I still agree with it, I just don't spend as much time reading feminist content).
Liberal feminism is trash that made H&M THE FUTURE IS FEMALE t-shirts a thing, as well as thousands of retarded think pieces like BEYONCE IS OUR FEMINIST SAVIOR or ARE MARVEL MOVIES FEMINIST?
On the other hand, I agree with radfems, but being constantly bombarded with rape news from around the world and focusing on how men are disgusting is not healthy for me. Yes, I know men can be the most evil and vile thing on the world and women are fucked. I just don't want to constantly think about it when I can finally enjoy my life not being entirely shit. Maybe it makes me a traitor, but me getting depressed over fuckery does not help anyone, but ruins my life. The radfem community life is not for me.
On the other hand, I would like to become a volunteer for a feminist organisation, but IDK where to start (especially with my depression making even waking up almost impossible someday). IDK I just wish I could do something to help sex abuse victims or homeless people. Maybe I should start with donating.
No. 301933
>>301916i agree with this. i tend to agree more with radfems, but i have more of a moderate stance on this kind of thing in general. i also don't like generalizing men since most women and feminists hate being generalized, why do that to them?
there are toooons of shit men in the world and i really think getting them as allies is very important to ending toxic masculinity's reign.
No. 301935
>>301934nta but i actually "manspread" and i'm a woman.
most people aren't upset about the space they take up, but they're angry about the socialization that took place that causes men to take up space without thinking and women to take up as little space as possible without thinking.
it's not about the literal application, just kneejerk shit that has less to do with what the person is doing and more to do with their own bitterness.
No. 301936
>>301916No, I see where you're coming from and it doesn't make you a traitor. This is one reason why I limit the amount of time I spend browsing feminist media which includes certain threads on lolcow.
Some people need to realize that as individuals there is only so much we can do for other people when the vast majority of what goes on in this world is not within our control, and taking care of ourselves should be a top priority. I don't want spend all of my time festering in negativity when I could be making choices that positively benefit me and the people I care about.
No. 301959
>>301934my favorite thing was when I was riding a train to uni everyday and some guys were literally taking 4 seats cause they were sitting on a one but manspreading diagonally in a way that made the rest of the three seats unavailable
People are literally standing around and those assholes can't take a hint even though they are limiting access to the last 3 seats available. I suppose the people should be more forward and say EXCUSE ME but I guess nobody wants to talk to a potentially aggressive asshole.
I started going for those seats though lmfao
No. 302170
>>292694i used to post on 4chan all the time but there IS a lot of goreposting even though it's worth a monthlong ban, and all my favorite video game threads tend to devolve into fat weebs slobbering over their waifus (though it is fun to
trigger them by posting sexy men invading their space and sperging out over them)
it just feels too underage now. im a boomer
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>>302169This is not really a bus problem, but more of one on the subway. A lot of people cross their legs and jut them out which can take up a lot of space especially if you are tall/have long legs or are wearing chunky shoes. Really sucks when you are trapped like sardines during rush hour and somebody decides to do it, then you are stuck with somebody’s nast af shoe or leg rubbing against you.
No. 302245
>>302230I don't get dick size shaming, either, but I dunno about the jokes about men who can't find their GF's clit or get them to orgasm–that's about their failings or disinterest to learn female anatomy and care about their partner's needs than something unchangeable like dick size.
Admittedly, though, men being called ugly doesn't bother me as much as women getting called ugly. Ugly men can make way more footholds in life than an ugly woman can.
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I hate people who take two completely isolated events handled by entirely different people/judges/etc. and use that to prove how much of a bias america has against certain groups of people. Its even worse when its something like “WOMAN SENTENCED TO JAIL FOR SAVING 20 PUPPIES BUT STRAIGHT WHITE MALE MURDERS ENTIRE FAMILY AND WALKS FREE. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE IN AMERICA??”
No. 302707
>>302661Who is talking about rape? Do you think that specific image and case, or rape itself, is the only crime on this planet? Couldn't you read that anon wasn't only talking about rape?
Get it together, fucking hell.
No. 302927
>>300737Man, they always shit up everything. I just went there and someone already started asslicking them for some shitty shade Bunny threw on Moo, and i'm 99% sure it was a selfpost like ALMOST EVERYTHING that gets posted kissing their asses. I liked both of them before and was really feeling for Bunny for being assaulted by Moo but now it just feels like they're milking that for visibility, you know? Neither Susu nor Bunny were/are very well known compared to Momo, it feels like they're leveraging te situation to climb up using Moo as the stairs. Not that she doesn't deserve to be dragged because she's a fucking piece of shit, but this whole situation is really exposing the true colors of other costhots, and now i'm hoping both of them get dragged along with Moo & Moochlette.
>>294795Also this.
No. 302980
>>302927>>293506Random anon here, I hate Moo but when I found Bunny and Susu through the accusation video, I got major cringe vibes from them. Why is one dressed as Mavis from Hotel Transylvania in such a serious video? Also her fake meek voice while the Mavis wannabe rubs her hand all concerned. Cringe.
I wanted to hate on them as soon as I saw that video but decided against it because I actually didn't think anyone else shared this opinion, plus I didn't wanna seem like a victim blaming asshole.
No. 303000
>>302927I think the circlejerking is annoying, but I think posting the shade is valid.
I just wish it could be posted like the rest of the memes without people asslicking or derailing.
No. 303019
>>302980While i do think victim blaming is wrong, Bunny has been literally riding on this scandal's coattail for relevance and it irks me out. I don't think sexual harassment victims can't be bad people, like Asia Argento who was behind #metoo and has ben outed as an abuser herself. I can't help but hate that she's using a serious issue as a popularity stunt. We play along because we want to see Moo down but idk if it's worth it to help someone willing to leverage this to gain notoriety.
>>303000The problem is that once it gets posted along with a commentary like "SO WITTY OMG LOVE THEIR SHADE SLAY QUEENS" (which is why i think it's selfposting) it's bound to turn into a slapfight between those annoyed at the asslicking and the whiteknights.
No. 303091
>>302980I also agree that they're kind of cringe. At first what they were doing was fine but then they just kept milking Moo unnecessarily. Like that Jane chick who is always being posted to the thread and it's so annoying. I don't want to say move on to a victim but is it really necessary to always be commenting on things Moo does even if it doesn't pertain to the harassment? (This is about bunny)
My unpopular opinion, I like Shane Dawson and his friends. I've been seeing a ton of hate for him lately after his new video and it seems people hate him now because he's everywhere. I liked him for his conspiracy videos and the squad ghost hunting videos. I do think his content is extremely overdramatic but it's fucking youtube what do you expect. People who try to judge his content as if it's not made for a younger, dumb audience is stupid as fuck. Just enjoy the trash content.
No. 303097
>>302913Even things like YLYL threads are just dumps for softcore porn. I go there for cheap laughs and stupid clips, not a girl being railed.
It actually pisses me off how some boards are modded to oblivion while others aren't at all.
Back when I would browse /cgl/, even the tiniest post that was off topic would result in entire threads being deleted. Go to /wsg/ and it's porn central most days even though it clearly goes against the main reason of the board.
No. 303140
>>303095People act like all that matters and is important because we've been brainwashed into thinking it is. A lot of times of your a woman with no makeup you get passive aggressive comments from other women since they feel like they "have" to wear it, and you not participating invalidates them by showing its not actually required.
I'm sure someone will jump down my throat for this. But it's like being a woman with short hair. Others women will comment that they "could never" do that. Because some women are so tied up in their image to appease men that any alternative is un thinkable. It's like they're mad that you aren't constrained by yourself.
No. 303190
>>303091I loved him back when he was hanging with trish and drew all of the time and doing the podcast with lauren. I think he can be genuinely funny at some points (which is why i still watch his ‘series’) but he crosses the line between funny and overdoing the joke to where its just annoying and predictable sometimes. He can be a little cringe when he overdoes emotion for the sake of painting “he moment’. (For example “WTF JEFFREE?” 5 million times in the warehouse)
My unpopular opinion is that I’ve always felt sadder for his ex Lisa than I ever did for Shane coming out. He basically dumped her because he was out of the closet (as a bisexual mind you) and wanted his chance at dating a man. In her breakup video you could basically see her blaming herself for ‘holding him back from experiences and being who he truly is~’. I just feel like it was a huge copout for him to end this long relationship by using the lgbt card and saying it was a chance to “explore this side ive never been able to show!” instead of flat out saying “hey I’m over you and want to start seeing other people” which could be construed as kind of douchebag-ie by some people.
No. 303281
>>303274Personality doesn't mean shit, it's a meme. Average men don't get attention like crazy from women at all, I don't know at which universe you are living at.
>>303272Not those attention whore failed normalfags, I mean the real ones.
No. 303305
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>>303298People don't become bitter or hateful out of nowhere, men have more variety of preferences while women want only one type of men. Dating in 2018 is a fucking shitshow thanks to tinder and social media, seriously fuck internet and technology.
No. 303318
>>303314But you don't get it, your worthlessness comes from within, and from your shitty brethren gaslighting you. You don't need robots or other incels, you need to have your own voice and stop being so damn scared of everything.
This bitterness and distrust you feel doesn't come from within, but surrounding yourself with shitty negative people is making it worse.
All of us experience rejection and bitterness at some point. But the difference is we wake up and learn from it instead of stewing in it. If you just give up and hate everything you may as well just kill yourself.
No. 303325
>>303311>tfw have only hit on the opposite of Chads (short slender ethnic men) and they all rejected me or had gfs>tfw all of my straight male friends have dated and they're all nerd types, two skelly and one chubby (although admittedly one has an aesthetic face ngl)Listen, it's your lack of social skills. I have the same fucking problem and I'm an average looking bi girl. No male has ever fucking approached me either, before you pull that.
Some of us are just cursed or come across as social retards that no one would imagine dating. It sucks but you have to own it and keep trying.
No. 303333
>>303325I find it hard to cope anymore after 29 years old, I have to constantly lie about being a 29 year old khv. I have friends, I get along well with people and have no problems with making friends. I had people say to me in the face that my looks are the problem.
>>303328I'm just sick of failing, no matter how much I try it's always failure. Anyways what the fuck am I even doing here just fucking fuck my life.
No. 303337
>>303333Unless you have an actual deformity, so long as you're clean about yourself I have no idea why you wouldn't be able to date an average looking woman your age. Maybe your social skills don't translate to women.
Heck, even if it is a deformity even the lobster man had a wife.
If it's a weight thing, losing weight would be good for both your looks and long term health. Some people (men and women) can still score while being obese but not all of us.
No. 303355
>>303347Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. I feel you.
I'd go and say just milk life for what else you can get out of it, but that's easy to say as a 21-year-old romantic failure than one approaching 30.
I hope you find her, m8.
No. 303424
>>303333I had sex with a virgin guy around your age recently and can't for the life of me figure out why he stayed a virgin for so long. He's nice, he's funny, I'm enjoying being around him a lot… no explanation other than "he's massively unlucky and didn't click with anyone before".
Don't lose hope, this shit happens all the time
No. 303433
>>303428Nah, sometimes it's good to be reminded that men are actually humans. It's just also a shame that other men are the ones preventing them from acting human.
Fuck men and the mess they cause us and eachother.
No. 303478
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I hate that they're slowly trying to turn princess tiana into a biracial girl lol they should have just Made her biracial to begin with. They can't suddenly change her hair to sandy blonde and make her 4 skin tones lighter and expect no one to notice.
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>>303478she looks like a generic biracial girl in the left, her original design stands out…whoever changed her design is dumb that was so…random lol
No. 303498
>>303433>sometimes it's good to be reminded that men are actually humans. I'm sorry, but did his selfish, entitled demands that we coddle and reassure him actually make you think of him as more human? All he did was come here, blame us for not fucking him, then throw a woe is me I'm always friendzoned pity party in the hopes we'll tell him what a nice guy he is and we'd totally fuck him/guys like him. Which some idiots actually did.
He doesn't want to fix his insecurity by working on himself, he wants us to tell him he's fine the way he is and that we'd love him anyway, he doesn't have to get off his ass to earn a woman. Because of course, our woman only board just exists to make misogynistic incels feel good about themselves…
No. 303501
>>303478Why make her biracial to begin with? If they made Elsa a brown chick, I don't think anyone here would be saying "Why didn't they just make her brown to begin with?", kek. In fact, IIRC, there was a lot of anger in /ot/ at Ariel supposedly being played by a biracial actress for some reason, IIRC. No one thought she should've started out that way, so it's weird to see this line of thought when it's the other way around.
It doesn't really matter, though. It's a kid's cartoon.
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>>303492Yeah she looks like a quadroon now
No. 303508
>>303484I don't even really think she looks mixed unless you compare it to the original, honestly. I'm monoracial, and the "new" one looks more like me than the old one, lmao.
Their only fuck-up was that they gave her light brown hair for some reason. I'm convinced literally no one would have noticed or said anything about the skin color or nose shape if they hadn't also changed her hair color (and un-relaxed her hair).
No. 303511
>>303433>>303498This the same mentality as 'omg this dad brushed his daughter's hair one time. Dad of the year!!'
Men get held to such a pitifully low standard.
No. 303527
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>>303492they made her lips and nose smaller, and they lightened her skin while giving her lighter hair instead of black
i didnt even recognize who she was until i realized thats supposed to be tiana
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>>303527In that scene, everyone's color is off because of the lighting iirc.
This is a more accurate screen grab I think.
No. 303680
>>303544They all look like trash all the time because all CG characters look awful.
Not sure if that opinion is unpopular, but I've always hated CG animation. I have never seen a character in that style that didn't look better when I saw a traditionally-drawn version of them. And since Disney went CG, they've been pushing further and further into the uncanny valley. I got really unsettled watching Frozen and Big Hero 6, and every movie since suffers from the same problem. The characters' faces are so doll-like and overly expressive (which is accentuated by their gigantic eyes) it feels manipulative, or at least like the only aim is to make very small children grow attached to them. It always makes me think of that kawaii uguu meme because the proportions are so off.
No. 303761
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>>303680What's your opinion on CG that's not hyper-rendered and looks "traditional?"
CG Tiana's hair should be black though. Why is it brown?
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>>303761A lot of mixed girl have this hair color which is what they're slowly trying to turn her into kek
No. 303944
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>>303925>she doesn't look biacial at all!This is why black girls will always get screwed in the media and mixed girls always get roles meant for black women. When stuff like this happens people start forgetting what mixed women look like and one drop rule brain makes people pretend like they don't know the difference.
No. 304124
>>304110men are desperate and waiting for a "gotcha! see look at these evil women!" moment and since 24 yr old teachers fucking 18 yr olds is the only thing they can grasp onto, they want to act as if it's just like actual child molestation and it's oppressive if those women didn't get the same sentence as a 80 yr old who fucked a 12 yr old
for accusing the students of lying men are convinced women and girls never get raped and if they do they're lying, the only way they'll believe is if it's a baby or toddler got raped, even then they accuse the mom of lying and considering how far men will go to accuse women of lying I wouldn't doubt if they start accusing literal babies of lying, this whole false rape accusation hysteria is getting extremely sick the lengths men will go to just to say a woman lied, but you never see a man getting doubted when they accuse, even if they have no evidence
No. 304149
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>>304078Princess tiana isn't light skin with light brown hair though. Are you saying it's ok to change a character completely just because some Black people have these featureS? Hell you might as well make Snow White blonde with green eyes since other white people look like this.
No. 304153
>>303925her hair is light brown, and her skin is lighter than jasmine's lel.
its weird when they dont have a problem with black hair for vanellope, pocahontas, jasmine and mulan, and manage to shade accordingly, but have to lighten everything up for tiana. its like they were scared of making her "too" black imo.
No. 304158
>>304149Imagine how mad they'd be if they suddenly made Rapunzel, Belle, Elsa or Ariel very tan with black, curly hair and said "Well…some white people have those features, so….??".
I'm literally the anon who said the new one looks more like me than the old one, but the issue is kind of obvious.
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>>304361But the original already looks Afrocentric. It was even modeled after an actual black woman (the VA) who gave input on the design. They had it perfect the first time, why fuck it up by changing either way?
And it's not even like it's hard to make CG black characters…
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>>304391Finally someone who understands
No. 304468
>>304408i'd like to agree with you but i'm 5'11" and it really doesn't seem like i get as much shit for it as short men get. People usually compliment it or tell me I should model, and even though it's just petty flattery, i doubt people come up with nice things to say about short mens' height. Also even though plenty of men dislike tall women, it's not such a popular sentiment that it's all over pop culture the way haha manlets is. If a famous man is short you'll find way more jokes and jabs about it in mainstream media than you'll find jokes about taylor swift being a man or something.
most of the time women get the shitty end of the double standards stick but i think manlets can have this one
No. 304493
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>>304491Nah. All of the doxes in the thread have been near enough proven to be correct and accurate.
Even if they weren't, who gives a fuck what furries think and what happens to them? They should all burn in hell for being such abominable degenerates.
99.9% of the furry community is fetishistic crap sprinkled with pedophilia, child grooming, animal abuse and the most degenerate sexual freaks.
No. 304543
>>304493nta but okay? it shouldn't be here.
LC isn't the fucking cyber investigations unit.
No. 304549
>>304491There aren't any wrong dox, at all. Even Dynastia and some random person came in to bitch, but it turned out literally everything posted was accurate, double-checked before public exposure and 100% bullet-proof. Dyn and the anon kept repeating shit about like
one user supposedly being confused with another and called it "faildoxing!!1", but then it turned out there was no confusion at all, and they were right.
And rather than random farmers doing the bulk of it, it's mostly a dedicated group posting small drops of milk about what they've uncovered so we can all watch and discuss.
If you hate seeing sadistic furry rapists getting BTFO for some reason (maybe because - god forbid - you actually sympathize with these subhumans), hide the thread, I guess.
No. 304552
>>304543Sorry that your furry friends are being outed, anon.
>>304549>maybe because-god forbid-you actually sympathize with these subhumansexactly what i was thinking anon! there is no sane person out there who thinks that these shitheads deserve any sympathy for what they're doing.
No. 304556
>>304554you can do the same thing if you don't like my bitching :^)
no one's forcing you to defend your precious e-investigation either bby.
No. 304557
>>304553>>304556If you hate seeing people who commit fucked up actions being talked about in disgustt and reported to the police, you're better off observing threads about relatively harmless cows, not a fucking necrozoosadist thread. They're not just cows or snowflakes to be watched and lightly giggled at, they're criminals. Some of them are child molesters, ffs.
There's nothing wrong with exposing them on a public level (because again, these aren't innocent people) and reporting to them to the proper authorities on a judicial level. People are doing both.
No. 304559
>>304556invigorating, smart, insightful. thank you for that suggestion anon. you are so smart.
>>304557b-but anon! we aren't the police!! we aren't supposed to report people who are obviously engaging in bestiality!! this isn't a website to be mean on!!!!
/s
No. 304564
>>304557NTA but I agree with them in that the site isn't even a place for that kind of thread in the first place.
No one is saying they shouldn't have justice, but, the thread should have stayed on KF. LC is designed for
observing cows, and having this kind of thread is too much. And I think that's what everyone is upset about. They aren't cows, they're criminals, and the thread sticks out like a sore thumb among essentially harmless camwhores and anachans.
Another issue is that it's really obvious that it's not our userbase in the thread which is likely leaving a bad taste.
Since the thread is already here now, there's not much else to be said about it I am not against them being put to justice. However, I don't think threads of this nature should be allowed in the future.
No. 304802
If I hear one more dumbass <25 year old bragging about ""sugaring"" (low brow escorting/outright prostitution) my eyes are gonna roll right out of my fucking head.
This 19 year old waitress I work with is telling the entire kitchen staff how she has 3 guys paying her to go on dates and fuck, which she calls sugaring. I don't want to show my hand with how much I know about the subject because, well, most normal people don't participate in that shit (I never have, I'm just fascinated by the subject in a morbid way).
I want to grab this dumb girl and shake her while I explain to her the difference between what she does and what she thinks she does is equal parts nuance and commitment.
Getting paid to go on dates is escorting. Money changes hands the same day you meet and go out. Doesn't matter if you do this with the same guy on a regular basis, it's still escorting.
Getting paid to fuck a guy after a "date" of watching a movie at his house is prostitution, especially if you uber to his house and back at fucking 2am after work. That can't even be called escorting.
Sugaring is when your bills, hobbies, travel or other whims are paid by a man you have an ongoing sexual relationship with, where neither party involved is interested in being a couple publicly. A huge part of sugaring is discretion.
No man you meet on fucking Tinder, OkCupid, MeetMe, or PlentyofFish is your sugar daddy. He's your john.
No. 304829
>>304802You could play dumb and be like 'but that's just prostitution'. I think most normies with no special interest would assume.
The whole concept of sugaring is annoying tbh. It's just glorified, sugarcoated (for lack of a better word) prostitution. It's basically marketed in a way that makes young girls think it's glamorous, easy money and less dangerous or intimidating than regular prostitution (which is for poor junkies obviously, not for cool independent sugar babies empowering themselves by taking advantage of rich men /s)
No. 304999
>>304994a dead incel is a good incel,
if that's what you meant then we want the same.
No. 305001
>>304994cause he's not that bad?
i know not all incels buy into the shit they're spewing. i don't think all of them are terrible. they just get in with a bad crowd.
there's different kinds of incels, some of them are just really insecure and not assholes, and their insecurities get magnified by assholes who convince them no one wants them so they can have someone to share their loneliness.
not all of them are bad.
i just hate that men do this toxic shit to eachother.
this guy would have gotten along fine if he'd been left alone to understand the world on his own.
No. 305003
>>304493Lay off the edge lmao
>>304491These people don't care about helping others, obviously. Nor do they actually want to do hard work.
No. 305005
>>305001Stop being this delusional.
They don't give a fuck about you. The moment you show any weakness, including compassion, they're going to harm you.
They come here, they stir trouble (hello racebaits), and they will use the information on this site to manipulate girls.
They do that right now by trying to appear hurt and so lonely :'(
Each single one of them is a psychopath. You don't have to take my word, but at least don't be this naive to their true nature.
No. 305010
>>305003NTA, but wanting to see animal abusers and pedophiles jailed is edgy now? And seeing to it that they actually are (instead of sitting, doing nothing, bitching about it "not fitting in on Lolcow!!1" and insisting that no one should try because someone else might get fingered, which hasn't happened at all) somehow translates to not caring or doing hard work?
Furry logic is wild.
No. 305058
>>305001>>304994I admire your good intentions, and even though I'm not part of team #killallmen, I agree with the other anon who said that incels cannot be saved.
Furthermore, it really shouldn't become part of our charity as women to pull them out of their toxic mindsets. For what, just so we can register as human to them? Let men help themselves if they really want to change.
I sincerely believe that you will get hurt if you involve yourself with them. Many other women have tried and got a kick on the ass for it.
Not to mention I've noticed that most incels tend to co-morbid with mental illnesses and autism. I think the reason why they b-line for these incel groups has more to do with just insecurities.
No. 305066
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>>305010I do not get where all these fucking furry defenders are coming from. Has the internet truly changed that much?
We need another furry genocide as soon as possible.
No. 305072
>>305035I fucking hate the new trend of claiming prostitution, sugaring escorting etc. is something empowering and you're totez taking advantage of these silly filthy rich men with ur superior knowledge uwu
Selling your own body for a living is not empowering or cute and making young girls believe it is leads to other Himekas in the world.
Sex work is still not like any work and i'm honestly sad for all the impressionable dumb girls who will end up in a ditch because of tumblr and twitter pushing that it's work like any other.
No. 305078
>>305072Yeah honestly it makes me furious when women and orbiters push the idea that it's comparitive to customer service, and that
any job that includes an element of looking presentable or attractive is
totally the same thing. They demean ordinary, safe work by trying to gaslight us that it's exactly the same thing as prostitution.
Also the social pressure to be pro-sex work otherwise you're some kind of repressive loony. I respect the women who do sex work, but I think pretty much any job is preferable to it. Of course I can't say this off-Anon anywhere.
No. 305104
>>305092Same. I also hate that the women who chose it of their own volition think it's within their rights to talk over the ones who didn't and erase their struggles.
If you're part of the 1% who just decided you're okay with having sex for money, whatever, but stop trying to champion your field as empowering by ignoring the reality of things. Women and girls die and suffer every day doing this shit because they were forced into it, and unfortunately, they make up the bulk of actual sex workers,
not you.
The destigmatization of sex work/prostitution is dangerous not because we're all sex negative puritans, but because it presents a false narrative about how this shit really works. It sanitizes the public face of human trafficking, and it's fucked up.
No. 305108
>>305092>>305078I think most women who push those ideas are the ones who think male attention = validation and are privileged enough to feel like they can refuse a john.
I mean, think about the average prostitute, a young poor girl trying to make ends meet. A john asks her to do something she doesn't want to, but if she walks out she won't be able to pay rent. Or worse, her pimp will get mad and withhold even more money, or food from her. She'll have to let some sicko fuck her bareback or risk losing money or being punished. That is, if the sicko isn't a violent subhuman anyway and will try and kill her or rob her.
Compare that tho LITERALLY any other service job. A client tells you to do something unpleasant, you (mostly) can refuse, and if you can't, your boss isn't going to beat your ass or stop paying you, the client won't do anything to your body that can harm you and you can keep on living.
But even if you're an "escort" or a "sugar baby" you're not entirely safe. What if a john discovers you actual name and sends the nudes he took without your knowledge to your family because you want to end your arrangement? What if he date rapes you? Does it stop being rape if he gives you 200$ after? What if your future employers discover your background? What if he flies you overseas and then you have a disagreement - what the fuck you're gonna do? You don't know anyone there but him. Or, what if suddenly you get sick and can't go on dates with your rich old man anymore? Then he stops paying you and you'll be pennyless, because a "job" like this has no insurance, and it's actually extremely hard to save money when your allowance is barely above minimum wage.
Even camgirls aren't safe and can be freely doxxed and have their lives ruined by some dirty basement dwellers who think they have a right over the girl's bodies.
Sex work is not work and it'll never be.
Also
>>305104 the legalization of sex work INCREASES trafficking. Like, what the fuck, is this the future we want for women and girls? Having to sell their bodies to survive? Being trafficked by skeevy pervs over borders to where sex work is legal so they can be empowered uwu? Ugh.
No. 305145
>>305092Not to mention it breeds the mindset that all women are objects. Look at men who are addicted to porn. They treat women a certain way and for the poor women who slept with these guys, they're probably selfish and only expect a blowjob but will never give oral to a woman or make her cum.
Porn addiction and women/handmaidens who encourage sex work are the worst. It affects every woman on the planet because it normalizes an already abusive market.
No. 305146
>>305108>I mean, think about the average prostitute, a young poor girl trying to make ends meet. A john asks her to do something she doesn't want to, but if she walks out she won't be able to pay rent. Or worse, her pimp will get mad and withhold even more money, or food from her. She'll have to let some sicko fuck her bareback or risk losing money or being punished. That is, if the sicko isn't a violent subhuman anyway and will try and kill her or rob her. This, anon!! It comes down to privilege. Cam girls and women who do lewd modeling like Susu and Bunny can do it from their homes and live in America, where they are protected more so than another country where a woman using her body for sex is an incredibly dangerous job. But maybe that country looks down on women in education or certain jobs?
Most people who say sex work is empowering have never dealt with the extreme lows and violence from men it brings.
No. 305157
>>305145This. Porn is one of the worst industries ever, and i mean it.
On topic, my unpopular opinion is that even feminist porn is exploitative libfem crap. "She CHOSE to be pissed on, choked and beat on set!! uwu Empowered!!" like shut the actual fuck up. Choices aren't made in a vaccuum, women agree to this because they're either deluded, uneducated and privileged like Himeka or Shay or they haven't got any other options and porn helps them keep themselves fed.
And even then the effect the normalization of brutalization of women on society is showing in modern times.
As a side note, porn addiction is a rabbit hole. You start with bdsm and hentai and soon the only thing that can get you off is gore CP. Why is something like this allowed?
No. 305161
>>305146Slut here
I think the biggest problem with sugaring vs. prostitution is that nobody seems to understand that the difference lies with the girl doing the sugaring/prostitution. Sugaring appeals to poor/lower middle class girls who just want a taste of a better lifestyle without work or commitment, but what they don't seem to ever understand is that sugar daddies can tell when you're not their usual demographic. That's when it becomes dangerous and the risk of being "outed" or left out in the cold and dirt broke with no income comes in. Guys who aren't SDs know more and more vulnerable girls are buying into the sugaring craze these days, and they're taking advantage of it by posing as sugar daddies, even though they're usually barely above upper middle class themselves. A real sugar daddy might ask you to do some kinky/weird stuff, but it's not a deal breaker if you don't want to. Sugar babies can always say no because the arrangement is based on trust. You're not his whore, and if he treats you like one he isn't your sugar daddy. He's just a horny pig with money taking advantage of you.
Real sugar babies screen their SDs, and I've knows girls who legit run background checks on their guys. A lot of you seem to have this idea that your SD is a guy who gives you a fake name and meets up with you at a predetermined spot for your "dates" so you never find out where he lives or works. That's prostitution. A sugar daddy shouldn't be afraid of you exposing him, if he is then there's no trust in the relationship and you're doing it wrong.
Sugaring is just like having a rich boyfriend who doesn't wanna be seen fucking with a girl half (or more than half) his age, or maybe he's married and you're his side piece. It's a legitimate arrangement, just kept quiet.
Sorry if this is rambling and nonsensical, I'm p. drunk right now.
No. 305186
>>305161Your post is nonsensical but not because you're drunk. You're one of the deluded girls we've been talking about. You can keep telling yourself it's safer than prostitution, you can say no, you're not his whore, you're just like a gf, but you can never assume it's the same for a man and by the time you figure out he is one of the 'horny pigs' you referred to, it's too late.
Seriously, stop glorifying this shit. It's nothing like being a girlfriend, it's sex in exchange for money.
No. 305188
>>305186I think there
can be a difference between sugaring and escorting but apparently it has muddled enough new terminology has sprung up. Being a 'sugar girlfriend'. Wherein there is a real relationship and exclusivity but the girl still gets financed. I think its easy to fall into that pattern with enough income disparity. I never made a lot of money but when I dated some younger (jobless) guys I didn't mind treating them and paying their way since I wanted them to be happy. I can see the mentality, but these types of arrangements are probably rarer.
No. 305203
>>305191A lot of women aren't given a choice and that's the point. Imagine being 18 or 19 and told this is a great way to make money and it will be short term. Next thing you are doped into a lot of sets /sex scenes you didnt agree to originally.
A lot of porn stars are on hard drugs/alcohol for a reason. That shit will fuck you up mentally. You cannot live a normal, healthy life being in porn.
No. 305220
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I think vaping is really stupid. I mean in general I hate smokers of all kind: cigarettes, weed, etc. All of it stinks, its gross, and it looks cringey and stupid. I cringe whenever I see someone post snapchats of their vape pen or blowing vape air puffs. I mean if I had to choose the lesser of two evils, I'd rather have vapers compared to smokers since the stink isn't as bad. But vape oils definitely smell like cheap shitty candles. The smell gets into everything just like weed or cigarettes. I went to a friend's house who's bf vaped constantly and all my clothes stunk like that cheap fruit smell like a tacky perfume from the kids section that gives you a rash. The only reason I'd be okay with a vape is if maybe you had been trying to quit smoking and that's an alternative outlet. But it seems vaping is just a really cringey trend right now that replaces smoking. I wish all these smoking trends would just die, whether its weed, cigarettes, vapes, bongs, etc. Gross.
No. 305232
>>305220i agree 100%, the worst is if you say you dont approve of drugs the geniuses always respond 'what about alcohol? alcohol is a drug' like wow you totally got me i guess weed is cool now. granted i dont drink alcohol either but their smugness of response just pisses me off.
>>305229weed is apparently 'not addictive' so you cant even argue that for those smokers
No. 305245
>>305220I smoke a lot of weed but I’ll be the first to say anyone with a garment or ornament that celebrates/advertises their smoking habits they’re a fuckin loser.
When smoke or vapour or whatever is part of your personality you’re a sad empty husk of a person. It’s not a hobby it’s a crutch. Why act like it’s cool?
No. 305264
>>305218My experience with radfems is like this. I remember a group of radfems were delegitimising the experiences of a cam girl, stating she was in the minority of women who chose to do it and therefore her opinion isn’t valid. I interjected and stated that I and many other trafficked women support the legalisation of sex work, and they replied that it didn’t count because I’m still a privileged white girl, instead of some abused Somali living in the global south.
This is what my experience of radfems is like. Just constant derailment and shifting of goalposts. The hilarious thing is that, whilst prostituted radfems exist, the vast majority of them obviously have ZERO experience of sex work and yet will patronise sex workers who they feel don’t “suffer” enough. It’s all bullshit and I do feel their anti-SW stance is derived much more from their distaste for men than from concern for women.
No. 305297
>>305264I'm sorry for what you've gone through anon, and I'm sorry people in the radfem community have been condescending towards you. I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from when you say support the legalization of sex work considering that trafficking has only increased in countries where prostitution is legal. How can that be a good thing?
>The hilarious thing is that, whilst prostituted radfems exist, the vast majority of them obviously have ZERO experience of sex work Is there some other definition of "prostituted" that I'm blanking on? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
No. 305327
>>305203I'm 20 now and I can't imagine being naive enough last year to believe a man who says "yeah just defile yourself on camera for some cash it will work out great"
>>305197Again, an abusive boyfriend cannot MAKE you do porn and turn to drugs, can we just accept women make bad decisions and protect them and inform them instead of screeching about how it's someone else's fault? It's incel tier behaviour. Also a slightly controversial view but I think being raped when you're a sex worker is alot different than normal rape, if you put yourself in risky situations you get bad outcomes.
No. 305331
>>305327next you will tell me an abusive bf can't whore you out lmfao (tbh porn is not too different).
a lot of women get clearly forced in bdsm amateur porn, tho dunno if you had them in mind too. I can dig up a post about that but am not eager to revisit the siteSome women do make shit decisions, some get forced or coerced. It's a nuanced situation.
No. 305351
>>305331Honestly I don't think an abusive boyfriend can whore you out. Maybe once when you're drunk but unless he's literally keeping you hostage then you have to take some personal responsibility if you're living in the west. There aren't many worse living situations than that so it's pretty easy to get out of even if it's just sleeping on someone's couch.
The amateur bdsm situations are shitty yeah, it's more reason to encourage actual porn companies that hire girls that don't mind doing kinky shit for porn, it takes away the demand for shitty men to rape their girlfriends and post the video online.
No. 305356
>>305186>>305161Sugar daddies aren't paying you to be their girlfriend. They don't see you as an equal. They're paying you to please them and be their little shiny toy they can show off and fuck when the mood hits. Of course a sugar baby might say no, but whether or no it becomes a dealbreaker is up to the SD, if he says you're out then you're out, and what are you gonna do about it? It isn't a legit job, you can't have unemployment insurance on sugaring. You make yourself entirely dependant on a stranger, a rich old dude who didn't get rich by respecting wymin and understanding boundaries.
The number of SBs who actually manage to make a living out of it is abysmal and they're the exception to the rule. Sugaring is arranged protitution.
No. 305361
>>305359>inb4 she was trafficked because it's illegal and there'd be no more trafficking if it were legal, kek, as if the demand wouldn't go up like mad and as if most german brothels aren't filled with poor immigrants who have no other option, pregnant women who are raped in 'sex buffets', etc and as if there aren't literal supercenter brothels >>305353rolling my eyes gives you the idea i'm an angry whore, or her post? she doesn't think girls can be emotionally or physically abused into doing things they wouldn't typically do, and the assumption that everyone even has friends or family to escape that situation or feels they have the self-worth after being in an abusive relationship to even try to escape is delusional. anon has no idea what abusive relationships are like. plenty of girls escape abusive homes to live with their bfs who purposefully choose abused girls to manipulate. many of them are told their families or friends or pets will be killed if these women and girls don't do what they say.
anyone who believes girls can't be abused into sex work is a 'muh personal responsibility!!!' retard. i can't even believe anyone is dumb enough to think this.
No. 305400
>>305398So, women aren't allowed to think those things are cute, or have a casual interest in J-fashion, or else they must be Shuwu-tier libfems with neckbeard bfs? And sorry, but since when do trannies have a copyright on clothing made for women?
It just sounds like you're bitter and assume too much about strangers. If anything, if you get all this shit from neck accessories and socks alone (rather than actually observing a person), you may be pushing your own issues (eg insecurity) on other people. It doesn't really make sense.
No. 305403
>>305402Thinking it's hideous is one thing, but jumping to conclusions about their political views, love lives and identity (or lack thereof) just sounds like you have some unresolved mental health issues.
I haven't worn anything but jeans, coats and sweaters in a minute, so no. I just notice the sort of sperging in
>>305398 and it goes beyond "That's tacky" to actual annoyance and rage. I don't get it. Did your boyfriend like a picture of some girl in thigh highs on IG and make you mad or something?
No. 305410
>>305406But then, wouldn't you chalk that up more to who you surround yourself with instead of just clothes? I'm pretty calm, I was just confused. That first reply and the implication that I must've been called tacky sounded really pissy coming from you, it weirded me out since this isn't a huge topic.
I strongly recommend not deriving your opinions on people as a whole from Lolcow.
No. 305415
>>305413So, it all comes back to thinking that internet stereotypes reflect everyone ever, and having knee-jerk anger based on clothing choices?
Again
>I strongly recommend not deriving your opinions on people as a whole from Lolcow.If you've literally never seen anyone dress like that IRL, you must live somewhere pretty sparse. A pair of stockings and a choker does not mean you're a leebrul feminist with a Preg clone bf any more than a wide-brimmed hat, a maxi dress and some rings or a necklace with gemstones means you're a ~*pagan faery boho witch*~ who owns a jewelry shop on Etsy.
No. 305419
>>305416No one is arguing with that, it's subjective. What's weird is shit like
>When I think "choker and thigh highs on a real girl" I think of some sad, insecure libfem thot with no identity of her own and a neckbeard bf who she panders to every waking moment because she doesn't want him to leave her (so basically shoe0nhead)I can't imagine going through life using snowflakes and lolcows as templates for random people, and then feeling a sense of irritation based on what I assume must be traits they have based only on what I know of someone else that they have no real relation to, aside from accessory choices.
No. 305422
>>305420All I've been saying is that it's not that deep (which is why I don't get why some women are
triggered by it to begin with). As for chilling out, you might want to take that advice yourself when you're mentally crafting a personality type and getting strangely antagonistic and angry based on two accessories, anon. You know you place way too much weight on meaningless shit if you think of feminism when you look at socks, anon.
No. 305428
>>305422all it is is being angry that someone is pointing out how much of a judgmental cunt you are.
that's why cunt anon keeps telling everyone to chill. it's not our faults she IDs anyone in thigh highs and chokers as trannies/weebs.
No. 305443
>>305434Certain anons do that with everything from career choice to things as innocuous as fashion taste, I'm starting to notice. They hate and stereotype women just as much as men often do. It's off-putting as fuck, they might as well be female neckbeards.
I wonder if they're all getting this way from too much exposure to radfem/gender crit threads.
No. 305450
>>305446We don't just do it with any random camgirl or weeb in stockings, though. They have to have a track record of being annoying and/or cunty, ie milk. Otherwise, it's considered vendettaposting.
Some people seem to have taken it too far and actually get mad when they see vaguely anything that reminds them of a cow, though. Maybe they're just too sheltered and have used this place to color their perceptions on life, but whatever it is, those types typically seem to extrapolate their judgmental behavior and vitriol to some sort of weird political fringe outlook.
I think the radfem threads are becoming an echo chamber. Everything they personally dislike has to have some relation to trannies or male-pandering or violence against women ala [insert cow we all hate here]. There's now a political excuse for everything, and it's getting old. Next, we'll have anons having bitchfests at other anons for upholding tranny delusions and fueling unrealistic male expectations if they mention that they wear visible eyeliner, don't have a political lesbian gf or wipe their own ass.
No. 305453
>>305434"Ya'll juealous cunts uwu!!!" is such a pathetic argument. All men who buy sex are (morally) losers and if you can't see the problem in prostitution that's your personal problem.
On the opposite side, as a radfem i have to agree with
>>305450 in that the radfem thread is becoming an echo chamber, but i guess this is bound to happen anyway.
No. 305456
>>305445I actually dont see a problem with skin bleaching products either. No idea why it's made into such a big deal. Tanning too.
If people wanna tan, let them.
No. 305469
>>305456I'll weight in from what i heard from activists, but the whole problem stems from the fact that darker skinned people are treated worse in cultures where skin bleaching is encouraged (typical racism/colorism) so they see a problem with people bleaching their skins because they've been socially coerced to.
I'm not a specialist or an activist though so idk i might be wrong. This is just what i heard from people who want skin bleaching to end.
No. 305470
>>305445Skin bleaching is bad for you and I think a lot of whitening products are a waste of money. Tanning is even worse for you, and fake tan is grotty tbh. People should just wear sunscreen and avoid too much sun regardless of what skin colour they want.
That said,
>>305469 is true. It seems fucking nonsensical to me for someone to have the exact same face and body but suddenly become ugly when they're tanned or not tanned. It's such a minor difference.
No. 305483
>>305434oh come on, anon. are you kidding? camgirls don't even need to be that cute to gain a following as long as they're 'attainable' seeming (see: babyzelda?). and plenty of women can get decent guys even if they're fat/ugly, they just need to wait for the right one. lots of pretty, thin women settle for bareback anal red lobster guys when they don't have to.
farmers are right for saying the shit they do about camming, because it can destroy the rest of women's lives just because they thought it'd be more fun/less stress than working annoying retail. it's anything but. camgirls get abused and treated like shit, stalked, harassed and irl sex work is even worse. unless you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, women should avoid that 'field' of 'work' for their own sanity and safety.
No. 305511
>>305510I think obese people are a massive burden and I don't think coddling them is okay.
I have a coworker who is the same age as me but she's nearing 280 lbs and she just found out she has high blood pressure and high chorlestoal. I'm only 31 and she's got really bad health issues because of her weight, but when we spoke about diet she told me vegetables were disgusting and she mainly eats mcdonalds for lunch and dinner.
No. 305525
>>305510100%
They need therapy and restricted diets for the eating disorder, not enablers who call them perfect and free surgeries that they waste by going out pouring sugar into their surgically reduced stomach.
People say ‘oh they’re only hurting themselves leave them alone’ as if tax dollars aren’t being wasted on bariatic furniture and medical equipment that no human should need. A “big boy” gurney costs about six and a half grand. Imagine replacing all the perfectly functional gurneys at a hospital just because your patients are so massive they require a literal ton of support.
No. 305540
>>305510>>305525>not giving people gastric bypass surgery that is proven to be more effective for long term weight loss So do you want people to no longer be burdens or not? A single surgery cost has got nothing on the medical care of elderly people who have heart disease, diabetes, and anything else related to poor diet and sedentary lifestyles.
Second anon actually sounds salty that someone can eat candy and still lose weight with it. Jealous or something? How petty.
No. 305542
>>305540Large numbers of People returning to morbid obesity because they choose to eat terribly after receiving their free surgeries doesn’t mean I’m sad I can’t eat a bucket of candy.
Every cent spent on surgery is wasted when they do not stick to their controlled post surgical diet forever. Healthcare systems don’t treat the underlying cause, just throw money and hope it sticks.
Reach a bit further to justify the hundreds of thousands it takes to replace functional wheelchairs with special bariatric ones.
No. 305707
>>305690Not really, sugaring is very safe as long as you aren't a greedy, careless skank about it. Like I said, if your SD wants to keep you in the dark or have you act shady, he's not the real deal. Sugar daddies want discretion, not to rape and traffic you (@the salty anon itt who now thinks all SDs are rapist johns trying to sell you since I said only a certain type of girl appeals to real SDs). Sugaring has been a thing since before any of the posters ITT were born, and will continue to be a thing as long as there are rich men out there who are attracted to younger women. Bitter averages can reee about whores and prostitution all they want but it's not gonna make sugaring go away and it won't make SDs suddenly start clamoring for their sensible, down to earth approach to "sugaring" (I'm not like those designer whores, I just want to go to college and pay off my debt!!!) just so they can get a free level up from their boring, broke lives.
Tbqh the best part of sugaring is how bitter other girls get from watching you live stress free while getting dicked down and still working toward your future with more resources than them. But that's life, and the bleeding hearts who want everything to be fair have the hardest tine of it unfortunately.
No. 305712
>>305707anon, you sound ridiculous. you don't even have to be anything better than average to be a sugarbaby, you just need to dress well/hold yourself well.
if you think sugaring is 'stress free' because guys are buying you louboutins, wew. i'd be panicked from stress. i'm sure there are plenty of girls envious of that kind of lifestyle, but i really would not like to spend time around men that see me as prey and have to pretend i enjoy their company. even if you don't have to suck their dicks, i really would not want to be touched or kissed or held by them.
lots of people are genuinely uncomfortable with having to spend time with random old dudes, no matter how much designer shit he throws at you. and anon, you have to accept that no matter what, it's dangerous to some degree to be around men that ultimately believe they always have the upper hand on you.
also, what's 'while getting dicked down'? are you bragging about having sex with these men? why do you think people are envious of that? honestly, i don't doubt some people are envious, but you sound shayna levels of delusional right here bragging to this demographic of women.
No. 305719
>>305711
>i really would not like to spend time around men that see me as prey and have to pretend i enjoy their company.
>it's dangerous to some degree to be around men that ultimately believe they always have the upper hand on you.
Then don't? You're missing my point entirely, these guys you think are all predators who see you as "prey" aren't the type of sugar daddies experienced sugar babies go for. Not every older guy looking for a SB is a sadistic fuck on a power trip, a lot of them are just lonely guys who work most of the day and want a younger girl to flatter them and make them feel attractive and wanted. They vent about their day, their friends, family, and you sit there and listen while rubbing his chest and telling him those people don't matter anymore because now he's with you. Personslly, my relationship with my SD was more vanilla than any of my "real" relstionships, if anything it was a little boring.
But you're coming at the issue with the all men are predators! mindset, which is wrong. Yes, a lot of them are, but as long as you aren't so sheltered that you can't tell the difference you'll be fine. You set clear boundaries, and talk about what you want from the sugar relationship. Anything else isn't sugaring.
>lots of people are genuinely uncomfortable with having to spend time with random old dudes, no matter how much designer shit he throws at you.
Sugaring isn't for them, then. And JSYK, not all sugar daddies are 55+, a large amount of the younger ones are crappy (35-40) but again, as long as you know how to weed out shitty men you can find a guy you vibe well with and can talk to easily.
>also, what's 'while getting dicked down'? are you bragging about having sex with these men?
Are you one of those tumblr kids who thinks sex-free sugaring is really a thing? Bc it's not. And again, my last SD was only 41 and a far better conversationalist than my last boyfriend. Not everyone is terrified and disgusted of older men because some of us have matured enough to know that people are pretty much the same even as they age. Plus, and this is the part you seem to be missing, you get to choose your SD which means you don't have to fuck him if you find him unattractive (ofc then he lukely won't be your SD anymore, but). Men are taking better care of themselves as they age now, especially with botox and plastic surgery.
And I'm not "bragging", I'm using anectodal evidence to debunk BS claims about something I happen to know a lot about. IE, not every man looking for a sugar baby is a sadistic rapist on a power trip who wants to trap a woman like a small animal.
No. 305734
>>305733Same goes for Men, idk how many male friends have gotten ~crushes~ on me and everybody acts like its cute as if I havent been openly gay from the get go,
None of those people are my friends anymore lmao
No. 305735
>>305731Agree, and girls who pick SDs based solely on what they can get from him aren't sugaring, they're just fucking for money/brand/trips. At that point, why even bither calling yourself a sugar baby? Just do P4P.
Entitled sex-posi tumblr whores really convoluted the definition of sugaring in recent years.
No. 305736
>>305731Theres no need, anon literally compares the people nutting in her for shoes to people she dates off hours.
Shayna would be proud of her.
No. 305742
>>304802 again, back with an update!
So, waitress girl came up to me this morning and told me she's "done with sugaring". I asked her why, since she seemed to be enjoying herself so much (based on how much bragging she was doing), and she said it's because her "daddies" kept "jerking her around and not wanting to pay her", and that one of them gave her an STI scare after
swearing he was clean. She went on a rant about how sugaring is "not as glamorous as it seems" and "is a lot more work than (she) thought it would be".
But, she says it's okay because she now has a boyfriend she met while "sugaring" who is, according to her, okay with the fact that she "was" a "sugar baby". She said he approached her as a "potential daddy" but instead they hit it off, so now he's now staying with her every night at her place, eating her food while she's at work and annoying her cats and letting them outside. "But he's so great, Anon! The sex is fantastic, even if I don't come!" (What is even the point??).
The best/worst part is, she started "sugaring" because she couldn't fund a roommate to help her pay rent in the house she's in… And now this guy is there all day eating her groceries and running up her light bill.
I just don't have the heart to tell this poor girl she's being used by this guy for a place to stay, but something tells me even if I tried she wouldn't listen. I feel so bad, she's so gullible…
No. 305745
>>305719>Then don't?so you admit that they have the upper hand on you and you're entering an uneven power dynamic that can get dangerous and risk your health and safety. i'd be willing to wager that most of these men enter these 'arrangements' because they want to have something over young women and enjoy knowing they have all the power over these young women, even if they don't act like complete psychos. the entire dynamic is exploitative and risks your sexual health.
>Are you one of those tumblr kids who thinks sex-free sugaring is really a thing? Bc it's not. And again, my last SD was only 41 and a far better conversationalist than my last boyfriend.this is just sad. so you're just a prostitute they date? people aren't envious of this, anon. maybe maladjusted people are that are very vapid, but i think a fair amount of women would prefer not getting into potentially seedy, incredibly awkward situations when they can just work at Verizon. and fucking these men isn't a 'pro' to most people, anon. the part that appeals to most women is that sugaring
allegedly gives them the option of not having to sleep with these grody men. i really don't care how young your last sugar daddy was, the shit is gross and creepy. and just because your last bf was a shit conversationalist doesn't mean anything? you might just be shit at choosing partners if you date 'meh' conversationalists? plastic surgery or not, i don't want to be around men even like 6 years older than me that are deliberately seeking women to manipulate/treat as a plaything, soz.
>And I'm not "bragging", I'm using anectodal evidence to debunk BS claims about something I happen to know a lot about."Bitter averages can reee about whores and prostitution all they want but it's not gonna make sugaring go away", and "Tbqh the best part of sugaring is how bitter other girls get from watching you live stress free while getting dicked down and still working toward your future with more resources than them", coupled with calling anons who don't condone sugaring or prostition 'salty' seems like you're bragging because you think everyone who criticizes sugaring is just an average who can't sugar? lol.
No. 305748
>>305744It's possible to find a sugar daddy like that, it just wouldn't be easy. You'd have lots of competition from other girls just to start, and you'd have to be extra careful as well as vocal about what you want- but IDK about a ~30 year old guy with enough money to have a SB wanting to settle down, though. Maybe if you P-trapped him? Some guys now are so into the impregnation kink they will actually commit to a girl who is willing to have a baby for them. These days most women want to avoid having kids, which is cool, I see a lot less women getting knocked up just to secure their lifestyle than I used to.
TL;DR: sugaring is extremely YMMV and what you get depends 100% on you as a sugar baby and how you approach/treat/respond to the men.
No. 305750
>>305745You obviously didn't even comprehend any part of my post before you staryed on your textwall, did you?
>they own you, its a fucked uo dynamic!>no its really not if you know what youre doing and dont go after creepy assholes >see you agree with me all sugar daddies are predators and all sugar babies are whoresHave fun reading at a 4th grade level while you work at Verizon for the rest of your 20's, anon. Just because you can't make it work doesn't mean the whole thing is ~only for whores and pigs~. Topkek.
No. 305753
>>305750>no its really not if you know what youre doing and dont go after creepy assholes i just said to you that even if they're not outwardly insane or creepy, they are still creeps. the entire premise itself is creepy. all men that pay for sex and pay for a relationship where women are specifically beholden to men are creepy and gross, and that's what you're not understanding.
>Have fun reading at a 4th grade level while you work at Verizon for the rest of your 20's, anon. Just because you can't make it work doesn't mean the whole thing is ~only for whores and pigs~. Topkek.my god, you are just insufferable. and i never said anything about 'pigs and whores', wtf??
No. 305815
>>305798for the record, i don't even work at verizon. it was just an example i used, saying that when the option to work at verizon exists, most women wouldn't want to choose prostituting themselves over it, but now she's using it as an insult for some reason. at least working a low-level cashier/help desk job at verizon or something similar doesn't pose nearly as much of an occupational hazard, it does go on your resume, you can end up on the track to manager or assistant manager + it pays into social security at the end of the day. sex workers are so hypocritical though. so often i see them trying to devalue entry-level or perfectly fine jobs (all have their share of bullshit, of course, but what doesn't?) in an attempt to glorify sex work.
> Never mind that regular women unknowingly commit to men who end up abusing them all the time, and paying for sex makes men feel even more entitled to your body than usual. exactly right. men are already so disgustingly entitled, add money to the mix and you've got a very potentially volatile situation on your hands, it doesn't matter how well you think you know them. sugaring anon thinks that, first of all, men can't show their true colors at the drop of a hat and all of her vetting goes out the window because it's a fundamentally unpredictable line of 'work', and she also apparently thinks that men that treat women like chattel can be good people. they really just can't. even if they aren't absolute pieces of shit
to her, anyone that seeks such arrangements out is not a desirable or decent person, and most women are skeeved out by it.
No. 305858
>>305707You're the perfect example of a deluded girl thinking being a whore is cool because you're getting shoes out of it, while these guys get all your attention, your body and your mind. Sugaring is not unsafe because any man might rape then kill you (they might, though! any fssw knows that), but because your entire life is depending on this single old rich man. Are your parents rich, you got a safety net? Because if he dumps you for someone younger and who dolls herself better, then you have to think of something. Your allowance will most likely not last you through a health crisis or another emergence. What if you take too long to find another SD? Bills will keep adding up until you "click" with somebody?
It's fucking crazy you think you have any upper hand on girls working at McD's because you decided on whoring yourself out for Louboutins or whatever, but it's scandalous that you think fucking these men is anything but degrading.
Sugaring is damn risky and honestly you're shayna levels of deluded if you think this is a legitimate career choice. You've said yourself that "sugaring will continue to exist as long as men prefer younger women!" and implications that this is okay and not harmful at all aside, what the FUCK you're going to do once you get older? Become a trophy wife? Let's get back to the question i asked earlier, what if he dumps you for someone younger? You're going to the streets pennyless, turn to even riskier street prostitution because you've spent so much time catering to old dudes you haven't exactly worked on yourself academically or financially? Really hope you kept mom and pop's money.
No. 306083
>>306061Absolutely. The best ones are the Spechie ones that are as tragic as the original to the point you can't tell which is which.
It's so embarrassing to see anons cruising for asspats just cause they can draw slightly better than a cow.
No. 306984
>>306977dude you sound fucking stupid. the weeb community is full of insane SJWs that literally threatan anyone who criticizes black cosplays (even when the cosplayer asks for crit)
why are there so many bitter PoC weebs?
No. 307005
>>306998>>306996not baiting, and the other anon is clearly baiting rn. she first claimed it was all weebs, and then changed to weeb communities, and now says gamers? those are different communities entirely? plus a few gaming communities are primarily black people so…
my bf plays SF5 pro and it's like 50% black.
No. 307470
>>307440u talkin about anon in the vent thread?
bitch seems spoiled as fuck, she even said she thinks her mom is a cunt like wtf?
No. 307499
>>307496Yes, because anon was still busy doing what she said she was doing? If it's a regular occurrence, yes, that's insane and abusive. The world isn't going to fall apart because anon was in the bathroom for a minute. Acting as if that shit isn't dramatic and dumb as hell is insane. People need some perspective. Choosing to get upset because anon is taking a minute in the restroom is pointlessly aggressive. Do you think you'll get brownie points with dipshit older people for calling anon a cunt and acting like people being generally unreasonable is healthy?
And you're assuming anon is worse than she's saying. Taking what she has written at face value, yes, her mom is choosing to get upset over nothing and causing more stress than what is necessary.
No. 307514
>>307501That's really not true. You're re-writing the whole situation to seem as if anon wasn't going to take out the trash. She was in the restroom for a moment. You think, what, anon needed to pull up her pants mid-shit to run to serve mommy right then, that same second, when she asked to take the trash out, or else she's deserving of being yelled at and that people being explosive over having to wait a second isn't fucking insane?
Again, if that's happening regularly, it can absolutely be "low-key" verbally abusive if they're explosive and OTT over nothing. It's not the most abusive, but yes, yelling and freaking out regularly because someone can't rush and do what you asked that exact second is not healthy.
No. 307578
>>307514we both know that they waited way more than a second for her kek. youre delusional if you think that people dont write the versions of stories that make them look the best. take a look at most threads about relationships, both on lc and other sites, and youll notice that the person posting is magically somehow not the one to blame. 99% of the time people only post shit like that so others will validate their ego.
also, can we talk about how damagin the concept of emotional abuse can be? ive seen way too many men use is as justification for beating their wives e.g. there was a post on /r/relationships ages ago made by some guy who grabbed his wife by the throat during an argument, but people in the comments were unironically sticking up for the man because she raised her voice at him so was "emotionally abusing" him. unfortunately, i cant find the link. how delusional does someone have to be to think that yelling at someone and physically hurting someone are even remotely the same?
No. 307635
>>307514The thing with these relationship stories is that the poster almost ALWAYS rephrases things so that things are shifted positively in THEIR perspective. And of course, we're all expected to jump in their defense because we're not hearing the other side of the scenario. This happens all the time.
Who's to say that anon hasn't been avoiding house work duties for months on end and they're only bringing up the one instance that broke the camels back? How do we know anon hasn't been causing other issues at home?
Not saying anon is necessarily guilty, but it's silly to think people can't possibly lie or twist things on the internet.
No. 307665
>>307635>we both know that they waited way more than a second for her kek.no, we don't. cut the shit. you don't know anything, yet you're jumping through hoops to make assumptions about that anon.
>youre delusional if you think that people dont write the versions of stories that make them look the best. take a look at most threads about relationships, both on lc and other sites, and youll notice that the person posting is magically somehow not the one to blame. 99% of the time people only post shit like that so others will validate their ego.so you think every story that is ever told about relationships is half fake or completely dramatized? wow. you're fucked, anon. instead of even just figuring the truth is somewhere in the middle, you assume it's just anon that's an absolute cunt and that she's completely lying. you sound like a pathetic bootlicker desperate to demonize people you literally just assume are lazy or below others, tbh.
and wrt the reddit emotional abuse thing, that's just because the relationship subreddits are pits of misogyny, and reddit is a pit of misogyny in general.
>>307578>The thing with these relationship stories is that the poster almost ALWAYS rephrases things so that things are shifted positively in THEIR perspective. And of course, we're all expected to jump in their defense because we're not hearing the other side of the scenario. This happens all the time.that can happen all of the time and everywhere, and not even with regard to relationships, and happens even more frequently outside of relationship scenarios, so why are you two even reading or talking to people, like, at all, when you dismiss what they tell you as being too biased completely, when you actually have no idea? the truth is that sometimes people are absolute cunts and not every person complaining about what they perceive to be unfair treatment is lying about it for an 'ego boost' (wtf?).
No. 308146
>>307684Well shit anon I need to go check those threads right away
>>306144It truly is, I only follow the redraw thread for the assblasted drawanon reactions because it's always hilarious.
>Here, I redrew an artist cow's horrible drawing by making it equally/even worse by adding/removing more details/removing all stylistic choices to make it ~realistic~!>Anon, this is a piece of shit and you barely improved anything.>W-well I wanted to make it more realistic!!! I BET ALL THESE CATTY FUCKS IN THIS THREAD CAN'T DRAW WORTH SHIT THIS THREAD IS FULL OF INFIGHTING REEEE No. 308202
>>308160Agree 100% with you. Everythng after is a great example of everything wrong with typical aninu writing. It ruined my enjoyment of the series as much as releasing each game on a different console.
How did we get from a kid visiting disney worlds and meeting FF characters while searching for friends to the angsty clusterfuck
where everyone is either Sora or Ansem kekThe writing is as horrible as you would expect from a bunch of spergs into crossovers and boys love.
Ironically, the only thing liked post KH was Namine and Roxas' stories. I found them tragic
especially Namine losing Sora to Kairi after self-inserting herself into his memories and Roxas' 'death' after finding out his life is fake and he lives in the simulated Twilight Town) No. 308237
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quick, someone find a new tokitama pic