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No. 251518

i told my boyfriend i’m going to grow out my armpit hair for funsies/cause i think it looks nice & i like it and he literally started yelling & crying and saying i can’t do this to him and he wants no part in it. then asked if i’m just becoming lazy.

what the hell? this is so weird and offputting and makes me feel like he’s a pornsick little baby. i guess this is more vent than advice solicitation but damn.

No. 251523

>>251518

how fragile he is! Maybe if you tell him you’re going to shave your head too, he would have an aneurysm kek grow out whatever you want, be it hair or him

No. 251527

>>251518
Wow anon sorry to hear that your man turned out to be a retard. Hopefully you can trade it in for one that's not defective. We all end up kissing a few frogs. Female body hair is beautiful!

No. 251529

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>>251518
Men do this and when we ask them to shave their stubbly ass beard that leaves rashes, then it's an insult but benign armpit hair is the end of the world. It's pretty soft when it's long too, day old stubble feels way worse. Men are retarded

No. 251535

>>251518
Why did you say anything to him about it in the first place? Just stop shaving and I guarantee he wouldn’t have noticed.

No. 251540

How do you set the standard for what you want in your boyfriend?
I mean it more in a how do you define your type, because i've seen lots of anons say that they have very specific standards when looking for a partner. Do you just set the basics and then like…your IDEAL stuff?
i posted this in the stupid questions thread but i Guess it's more fitting here

No. 251545

>>251540
I'm confused by the question. You don't have to be any more specific about it than you want to. Of course you should expect kindness and respect from any man you spend time with. But as far as what you find attractive and what things you are willing to tolerate, it depends on your goals for the relationship and your personal values. What do you want him to be like? What do you want him to look like, or not look like? What things do you want to do together? What things do you want to agree on? In what ways are you comfortable in differing? Come up with both your goals, your boundaries, your deal-breakers. You should always be looking for your ideal if you want a marriage partner out of him. If you aren't ready for that and don't know your type, maybe try going on a few dates just to get a feel for what you like and don't like in a man.

No. 251548

My boyfriend is super sacrificial, cleans for me, cooks for me, seems very interested in being worthy of being my partner. I didn't want a wedding or to get engaged, but we have been planning to get married since the beginning, basically. The original goal was once he graduated college (since I graduated over a year before him), we'd get married. I've sort of been wanting to get married to get it over with. Now that he's graduating this semester, he says he wants to get married once he finds a job. He is already looking for a job and regularly checking postings, so I know he is serious about finding one. I am wondering if I should be concerned or not about this move of a goalpost. I pointed this out to him and he said he wasn't trying to move it like other people. I'm a bit frustrated because I feel like I've already found a job, gotten two raises, and I've even just moved on to another job, and I sort of feel like my timeline isn't being considered in this. I never really wanted to get married at all before I met him, but he made me feel like maybe marriage would be worth it with him. At the end of this semester, we'll have been together for 3 years. It's hard for me to know how to feel and whether my BPD is making me paranoid (it's under control completely now in terms of my actions and almost completely in terms of my thoughts; no one irl except my bf knows).

No. 251550

>>251548
Your concerns about the goal post being moved aren't unfounded, but I think waiting until he finds a job is a very reasonable request, provided he makes a real effort toward finding one. It would be difficult to plan a wedding while job hunting at the same time, and it can be hard to ask for time off when you've just started a job as well. So if it takes him longer than expected to find one, then there could be conflict with your wedding date that costs him his first job out of college. It shouldn't take a really long time to find one, so what's a few months delay in the grand scheme of things if you plan on spending the rest of your lives together?

No. 251551

>>251550
We're not having a wedding, we are just getting married at a courthouse (per my request as he would actually prefer a wedding, but he understands that I'm a very private person; it's also because I basically an no contact with my family, so the wedding would bring up bad feels due to that). But yeah, I see your point anyway. I just am really paranoid because I've heard of guys doing this and it is sad because he's given me reason to trust him in every other aspect. I just have issues with paranoia so I wanted to see if I was maybe giving in to that. I appreciate you not doomsdaying and giving some perspective anyway. Part of his reasoning is that right now, since I'm transitioning to a new job, we are trying to figure out if we want to go on my or his future health insurance plan as it's likely the health insurance for his type of job will be better than the type of job I work at. We're both the practical sort, I just have some unfounded beliefs that I'll be screwed over even though he's nothing but loyal and caring for me.

No. 251568

>>251518
> he wants no part in it. then asked if i’m just becoming lazy
Armpits take all of 5 seconds to shave. I find leg shaving to be a time consuming chore but when a woman opts out of a 5 second grooming task.. it's not about effort. It's about choice. And you already told him that so.. seems like he's trying to belittle you by going straight to calling you lazy.

No. 251570

>>251551
It does seem like he's being reasonable and is trying to gain some stability in both your lives before you can move on, get married and start to get comfy into your marriage. I think don't worry anon, if you're both still very much in love and as you said, if he's very loyal and caring, then there's nothing wrong with waiting a bit longer to gain some footing.

No. 251581

I figured out that I was in a relationship with narcissist for 2 years after they discarded me for the first time a few days after christmas and was isolated with covid. I researched for weeks about narcissism and it became pretty clear that was the abuse I had endured. We got back together even though I straight up knew what was going to happen. I came back because I needed to know for sure. Before he controlled every aspect of me and I was lost. This time I took control. I went where I wanted, said what I wanted, drove myself to work etc.He could also no longer sexually assault me because I put myself on a consent schedule. I allowed him to come over once a week instead of 5 or 6. We were actually doing fine until my mom came to stay with me and he didn't have access to me for 10 days. 3 days after she left he discarded me for the second time. This time he did it through text while I was at work at the beginning of a 16hr shift. I told him I had enough and that he was a coward and he abused and sexually assaulted me the past 2 years and that I straight up know he's a narcissist. He said he was above throwing insults back and that he was sorry he "hurt me".
I'm still sad. But I'm a lot better than when the first one happened. I blocked him on everything and I know thats it for me. My question is though. Do you think he will try to hoover me back? Or are they fully done when you unmask them? Both discards I unmasked him. The first one publicly and his family found out he hit me and the second time I straight up said I know your game and I'm not playing it anymore.

No. 251586

>>251540
It's an annoying answer anon, but the way that I set the bar for what I wanted was simply through experience. I've dated quite a few men over the years and have had a few long term relationships and came out of each one realising the things I didn't want (at first). I knew that because a partner did x I knew to look for it when dating again so I could avoid it.
However, it's only been in recent years that I've started to gain the knowledge to know what I do want. I think a way to fast track this process would be dissecting those things you know you're not seeking. There are things you didn't even know you wanted, or didn't want, until you experience them. To provide an example, it's taken me a really long time to figure out what level of intimacy I've wanted from partners. But I've had to date different sorts of people to figure out just how much, and what would meet me on my level.
You can only really know what you're after when you go out and meet people. I mean, you don't need to serial date like I have but as you mentioned, have some basic things you'd like to start, bring them up early on in meeting someone, and get out there.

No. 251587

>>251581
The question isn't whether he'll try again… its whether you'll stay strong if he does try it.

I've been through similar and for a while afterwards I would think about it daily 'will he text soon?' He had hit me multiple times, broken objects, forced sex acts and turns out he cheated as the icing on top. It's amazing how they leave a mental mark on you through where you wonder what they're thinking and planning next.

I had the issue where I couldn't visit family but he could go on a 15 day holiday with his. I think all it really came down to was wanting sexual access and resenting any plans that cost him a bj.

You'll probably find yourself processing memories alot in the next few months but don't get sucked back.

No. 251588

>>251518
I bet he sees no issue in his own armpits and body hair in general looking like a jungle though, right? One rule for me, another for thee.
Grow out your armpits nonna, it really does feel soft and amazing and I think it looks great too. It's not for everyone ofc but it just looks so adult and mature in my eyes kek, like >>251529 is so naturally beautiful like something you'd see in a painting.

No. 251589

>>251535
kek this is true, i don’t shave my legs at present either and he has never noticed or commented. i just didn’t even think it would elicit a reaction let alone THAT type of crybaby response.

>>251588
i agree with you. i admire women who don’t shave just as a fuck you to arbitrary beauty standards, but even then i honestly think women’s body hair is attractive. like… it makes you look like an adult woman. it makes me feel like all men are secretly pedos or not really attracted to women if a small patch of hair beneath our shoulders makes them recoil with such disgust.

No. 251593

>>251518
>lazy
says the man who has no grooming standards other than to brush his teeth and comb his hair.

No. 251595

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>>251518
He started crying? over THAT.
literally pathetic

No. 251596

>>251518
Is he completely hairless himself? He sounds retarded.

No. 251598

>>251589
Okay but have you dumped him yet? Because you’re currently dating a man who screamed at you and cried over armpit hair. You are going to end up dead.

No. 251604

>>251589
For what its worth nonnie, my leg hair is wilding out, my armpit hair is too, and my bf does not care AT all. Completely unphased, and we have no issues in the romance department.
Every time i get slightly self conscious hes reassuring. One time he dramatically (play) pulled back the covers to reveal my hairy legs, and he said (like crocodile dundee) “the female form, showing off its hair in the wiLd asserts its dominance in the kingdom” …
So yea, any idiot ready to nitpick your body over hair needs a real dose of reality

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No. 251633

>>251604
Same. I stopped grooming my body hair for two years. Full untamed ladystache, eyebrows, armpit fur, pubes, legs, even my weird scraggly nipple hairs. I did it somewhat out of laziness in that I didn't see a point in wasting all that time and energy shaving, tweezing and trimming if I wasn't leaving the house often. Any time I felt weird about going out hairy, my boyfriend was reassuring that he thought I was beautiful hair or no hair. And he still petted my hairy legs, kissed my hairy lip, and ate my hairy coochie just like he did when I was well-groomed. He even proudly proposed to me in my hairy monkey state in front of all of our friends and family.
>>251589
I'm not saying all this to brag about my Nigel but to say that there are men out there who aren't pornsick and are attracted to adult women with adult women features. Don't write this off as something all men will do and therefore you'll just tolerate it. Not caping for men because there are many, many terrible men but I just want you to know you can have what you want because it is out there. Every woman deserves to be adored in all her hairy glory, whether she does it for aesthetic, comfort, sickness or injury, or pure laziness, it really doesn't matter. The fact that we grow hair shows we are physically mature and nothing more. A sane man would not be turned off by any amount of body hair let alone throw a hissy fit. So you should do with your body whatever makes you happy and find a partner that doesn't literally cry over fucking armpit hair. Seriously, is he on hard drugs or something?

No. 251638

>>251570
I told him this morning that it still bothered me (because it does) and that I feel like it's best if in the future he doesn't talk about it because it really makes me sad. I have been crying all morning about it. We both discussed that it's more than likely related to my fears of abandonment, which is true, but this cuts me so deep because I kept on telling myself everything was fine as long as he didn't move the goal post as it's already been moved once before (no one's fault) because he took a semester longer to finish school than he anticipated.

I don't know how to get over this, nonnies. I don't understand marriage. I never wanted to be married before because I did not see a point in it, unless you are talking about finances. My boyfriend drummed it up to be this sweet, cutesy thing that slowly changed my view of it. I am bitter he made me actually attach value to the concept of marriage. If this truly is about finances, then of course I wouldn't care if it's moved up. I wouldn't care for all the other things that come with it.

I want to leave work right now because of how much this is affecting me. I feel like I put my trust in him and it didn't fall through. I am aware this is dramatic and I know me explaining how talking about it this morning pushed him away from me. How the hell do I not care about this? I hate this so much. I talked earlier after I got a job to him about how I'd like to get married sooner, but he didn't want to because then, it was that he hadn't finished school and I knew that was the original point. Please help me get some perspective anons, I'm morphing into black and white thinking and I don't know how to emotionally recover from this.

No. 251645

>>251638
I'm >>251550 and even though you're not planning a formal wedding I still don't think this is cause for panic. I understand that you have abandonment issues and that it's scary to trust someone. I don't think it's a bad thing either that you're being cautious because there are men out there that will string women along and play with their emotions and not follow through. Without knowing your boyfriend I can't tell you if it's something he's capable of. With the information I have, I don't see red flags. But you know much more than I do. You know more than you give yourself credit for. But you admit you're feeling very emotional right now, which can cloud your judgment. I recommend that you make an effort to get yourself into a calm and relaxed mental state. Let this go for your work day as much as you can, distract yourself. Go home or somewhere you like to relax, and find your happy place. Then try to reflect on the state of your relationship with your boyfriend, your mutual goals, your future. Do you trust him enough to tie the knot? Are these feelings coming from his behavior, or something in your past? No one can give you the answers, including him! You have to find it within yourself. Whether or not you have religious ideas about marriage, marriage is a long haul commitment. Divorces are often messy. So you want to be confident that the relationship will last a long time, if not the rest of your lives. It's not a fun romantic gesture. It's a legal union that binds together your assets among other things. And if you think the relationship will stand the test of time, then a few months of job hunting, which I still think is a reasonable request, shouldn't scare you.

No. 251648

>>251645
I feel like I don't know anything. Before I changed, I basically assumed the most terrible betrayals were occurring to me, so it is difficult for me to understand what is based in reality as I'm used to assuming the absolute worst. I've moved away from that mindset, but it still feels like I am denying the fact that people will betray, lie, and cheat me. I'm waiting for time to wash away my old feelings of distrust that I can't say were based on actions, but my distortions.

> Are these feelings coming from his behavior, or something in your past?

No, not his behavior, but it's projections from other women I've seen because I'm afraid of ending up like that. I still sometimes slip into my old mindset of preferring to be in a bad relationship where I know it is bad, rather than be in a good relationship where it is based on trust and unknowns. However, it is true that their significant others were not good to them in the way my boyfriend is to me. I think it's also because all my ex boyfriends wanted to marry me, but I didn't want to marry them. I would non-committedly say stuff like "sure", so that is probably informing me as well. My boyfriend talks a lot more concretely about marriage by comparison to me in my old relationships.

My ideas of marriage are informed by the fact that both of our parents married really young and have been together forever. I didn't really like the dynamic of my dad with my mom, so I wasn't a big fan of the idea for a while. I actually fell in love with my current boyfriend (I had not been in this experience previously) and he brought up marriage early on, within 3 months of dating, and he said then he wanted to do it after he finished school. It made me think because I never saw myself wanting marriage with anyone before and it made me consider whether I wanted that with this person.

Truthfully, I'm still not sure, not because I don't want to be with him forever, but because I don't understand the point of marriage as a gesture. I saw him saying he wanted to marry me after x event as a "promise", which is why I'm reacting the way I am and feel so rigid about this. It feels like a broken promise to me and I'm gutted. I had/ve a lot of reservations about marriage before, mainly how it makes me feel about myself. I grew up hating the attributes attributed to wives. It made me not want to be a wife. I feel like that's a shallow angle to not want to get married for. I guess another point against marriage is that my boyfriend is also not as financially well off as me. He has student debt, I have none. I have 40k in savings, he has none. He also wants to go to grad school, which is another financial burden I'll have to shoulder. I was not as okay with this aspect of marriage before until I realized since we'll always be living together that it will affect me just the same. Plus, I am happy to help him out of his debt. Marriage has become something to prove his devotion to me in my mind since he made this (what to me seemed like a) promise, which is why I'm so hurt. I have not cared to think about the angle that I'll be married to him, and I've focused far more on the idea that he'll be married to me. On that latter idea, I am hurt. On the former idea, I don't worry about it. I brush that aspect off because I don't feel like he's gaining anything by marrying me, I fall into the trap of idealizing him and feeling like only I am gaining something from his interest in me.

I mean, I'm this person who used to have terrible BPD and this man worked with me through that and ultimately believed in me. I don't deserve that kind of love, though I want it and gel in it. I am attributing worth to myself if he wants to marry me and I think that's why I feel threatened he is moving the date.

No. 251650

>>251648
You're going to hate me for this, anon. But I'm going to be blunt with you. If you're using this marriage to measure your self worth, you aren't ready to get married and you shouldn't get married. Not yet. That trap that you're scared of falling into? This is often how it starts. By tying their ego to the fact that someone they love or are attracted to wants to marry them. They want to marry as soon as they can because the idea of the marriage improves their self esteem. Or the promise of marriage, in the absence of marriage, hurts them, and they think getting married will patch them right up. But they don't really have goals for their marriage or see the future clearly. Don't do this. This isn't what marriage is about. A proposal is a gesture of devotion. An engagement ring is proof of that devotion. Marriage is more complicated than that. I'm not saying you should never marry your boyfriend. But you're not ready. You need to work on this with someone other than your boyfriend, like a trusted friend or family member, or a counselor. It's great that he helps you and believes in you. But you are not seeing this clearly. Marriage is a contract, yes it's one that can be broken, but it's not something to charge at because it'll make you feel good, or because not doing it will make you feel like your boyfriend has failed you or you've failed yourself. Because breaking it can be extremely difficult especially if either person doesn't want to. You need to be in a rational state of mind before making this decision. Look, your marriage doesn't have to look like anyone else's. You will be a wife, but your wifehood doesn't have to look like your mother's. Do you know what his expectations are of you, as a wife? Does he know your expectations of him, as a husband? It sounds like you've probably talked this out, but it's important to have a concrete idea of what your marriage will look like, from both perspectives. But don't be mistaken. He does have something to gain from this, for one, access to your finances, of which you have more than he does. But more importantly, you, as his legal life partner. That is a lot for you to give someone. Don't give it away for fleeting feelings of self love. Because marriage won't fix this. It's going to take more work than that.

No. 251651

>>251650
This, very well worded. I hope you take her advice anon.

No. 251654

>>251638
I'm not bpd but I was unstable, depressed, grieving etc when I was younger. I wasn't far from how bpders act. I got married to a guy that I thought was amazing while I was still in my early twenties and in the thick of poorly handled illness. I don't know what age you are but between my own experiences and having multiple friends with actual bpd your twenties are the rough zone and a risky time to be making big decisions while that's an underlying issue.

You and this guy might be together for the long run but rushing to make it legal when you're showing signs of struggle right now makes it seem like bad timing. Hard as this is.. waiting it out and making those commitments later on could work out better. ime I thought marriage would create this sense of stability and 'ultimate proof of love' but it was so anticlimactic that it was the beginning of the end for us strangely enough. If I could go back to those days I'd opt for more therapy and less rushing to commit. In those circumstances slowing down can give you a better chance of staying together.

No. 251694

>>251648
You sound REALLY unhinged and not ready for a long term relationship let alone marriage. You need therapy anon, and you need it yesterday.

No. 251704

How do you anons deal with your bfs being absolutely shitty around the house? My bf is almost 30 and he has two left arms when it comes to keeping the house clean, fixing things around the house, and basically doing anything other than sitting around. I have given him the benefit of the doubt, I know he's had a shitty life with an alcoholic dad and an emotionally abusive mother, so I understand that his parents just weren't really there when it came to teaching him how to take care of himself. But now that we've been living for 2 years, he still does the bare minimum around the house and I constantly have to prompt him to do A, B and C. I've tried talking to him about it but it seems like it just goes in one ear and out the other. Do any anons have advice on how to get someone to be a better house mate??

No. 251708

Be honest with me anons, would it be retarded/unhinged of me to ask my boyfriend's parents if they've maintained contact with my bf's ex from ages ago after they broke up? It's long enough for anyone to expect them to not be in contact anymore (dated for less than a year 12 years ago), he's never mentioned her to me until I realized some woman is clearly stalking my social media and confronted him to ask who is that and he said it's nothing to worry about and she probably just missed his family and that was a reasonable explanation to him; but when it comes to being in contact though he refused to give me a straight answer and I'm feeling very uncomfortable about it. I really want to ask them but I'm a recovering bpdchan so maybe I'm misjudging how appropriate it is and they'll think I'm insane? Would you do it in my situation?

No. 251710

>>251704
Not to sound mean but dump him, if he wanted to he could, is my saying. I know many, many women who have gone through what your bf went through and they still clean their house, hell I had physically/mentally abusive parents who didn't teach me shit but my house is clean and you know how I learned? By asking and watching yt, and I'm younger, your bf sounds like a typical moid happy to let the burden fall on you because he knows you'll do it and trust me but no amount of asking/communication is going to make him change

No. 251711

>>251704
You are the target audience of "You Should've Asked." It's a quick comic, give it a look: https://english.emmaclit.com/2017/05/20/you-shouldve-asked/

If you don't want to play mommy to your lover-manbaby for the rest of your life, potentially with the addition of a real baby later on, ditch him. You have already spoken with him many times before. Contrary to popular belief men are not helpless, bumbling retards, they just know they can get away with playing one because everyone else makes excuses for them. He knows you may fuss every now and then, but eventually things go back to normal and he gets to continue being a slob while you pick up the slack. He wants to live in a rotting dungeon? He can go right ahead, without you. He knows you want help with the chores, he heard you the first hundred times, he just doesn't care enough to consistently pitch in. Don't settle for a partner that can't manage the most basic of adult tasks. He's a grown fucking man now. I know male teenagers with shitty upbringings who were already doing more to take care of a house at half his age.

No. 251712

>>251704
You can't. He sees you as his mommy gf who will pick up after him and love him no matter how shitty he is. He doesn't see your complaints as real issues that affect you, to him it's all nagging. Some men are like this and won't change no matter how much or how well you ~communicate~.

No. 251713

>>251708
>when it comes to being in contact though he refused to give me a straight answer
This just sounds shady in general, bpdchan or not. I'm confused though, he wasn't clear about whether she is in touch with his parents or with him? I wouldn't really care if some psycho was still trying to communicate with my partner's parents, that's their issue, but if he was speaking to her? Twelve fucking years after the fact? Yeah no, he'd be in the ditch.

No. 251761

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My boyfriend forgot our anniversary for the first time in our relationship. We've been together a year, and we celebrated our anniversaries every month. He's always been very attentive towards it, talking about it days before and doing something for me. This time, I noticed he only brought it up once about a week ago. I told him I had things planned for him, and he gave me a "me too" answer without much enthusiasm. It gave me a bad feeling but I ignored it. As I said, he's never forgotten an anniversary before.
Today was our anniversary. He forgot. Like, entirely forgot. At some point I hinted at the fact that today was a "special day" and he acted confused, then realized it was our anniversary. He used the excuse that he's been tired, but I feel like with his track record of always remembering, something else is off for him to completely forget.
He's not the best at communication which is a red flag in itself, but I never would've expected him to forget an anniversary. He apologized and said he felt terrible, but it doesn't seem like he even wants to make up for it.
I'm hurt and I don't know what to make of it. I know some people would just brush it off, but he really has never forgotten before– for him to suddenly forget entirely is not normal for him. I'm trying to handle it maturely with him and be understanding, but deep down there's a lot of anger, especially because he doesn't even seem to want to make up for it. If he ran to make up for it I wouldn't mind, but it's the lack of care overall that hurts and worries me.
Am I overreacting about this? Should I just look past it as not a big deal? Or am I maybe right in feeling like something is off? I just don't know what to do, or if I'm even justified in feeling upset. I love him a lot but this worries me about our relationship and if he's the right one for me.

No. 251766

>>251761
Celebrating your anniversary every. single. month. is not a fair expectation to set. Unless this was your exactly one year (12 months) anniversary, you should probably let it go.

No. 251768

>>251761
lower your expectations anon, celebrating it every month is literally insane and you sound really high maintenance. Learn to ground yourself and just be happy with the relationship.

No. 251769

>>251766
>>251768
If it weren't mutual, I wouldn't set that expectation. He was the one who always wanted to celebrate every month - though it wasn't a huge celebration, usually just something really small.
I've actually never been with a guy who wanted to celebrate anniversaries so much, so in a way I thought it was cute. It threw me off that he'd suddenly forget after always being determined to do something on every anniversary.
It's more concern about his feelings and possibly being disinterested in me than it is feeling like he owes me anything, when he's always wanted to do something before.

No. 251779

>>251694
This. Reading her posts gave me literal anxiety, I know her boyfriend is definitey tiptoeing around her to not set her off. Jesus fucking christ. Please get help, I'm not saying this to be rude but seriously, for yourself and for your relationship. You have glaring problems, and the marriage seems to be a focus of these problems right now but trust me, if it continues like this, it won't end at marriage.

No. 251781

>>251769
There's nothing wrong with your reaction nona, your feelings are legit. Celebrating every month is quite a lot, but people act like it's impossible to address things with a sentence or two of communication. "I've loved doing things with you but it's starting to feel like more of an obligation than fun. I don't want to stop having date nights, but can we make it less regimented from now on?" It's that simple. Instead he told you he had something planned when he didn't. I don't care if it was a white lie where he'd intended to figure it out later. It was still a lie and that would upset me too. It's hard to make a broad judgment since I don't know about the rest of the relationship, but I'll just say that you are allowed to have any standards you desire and you shouldn't shortchange yourself. Personally I'm really fucking tired of guys that half-ass things because I bring a ton of affection and energy to a relationship even years down the road. If they don't feel I'm worth keeping pace, they can go ahead and find someone who's less effort and will give less in turn. Up to you to determine if this is just a rare misstep or if there have been too many situations where he's not meeting you on your level.

No. 251784

>>251769
are you two under 18? you both seem to have very youthful expectations and a very strange communication type. This all round seems really odd and like you're living your lives based on what you've seen in rom comms

No. 251788

>>251766
>>251768
>>251779
If she can remember, plan for it, and be happy to do so, her partner can too. She wants someone who is high effort and this is fine. However, if the guy isn't feeling it (which he clearly isn't), she shouldn't force him into being this way for her or expect him to change.

No. 251793

>>251788
He forgot it once anon, one single time. Now if he no longer feels down to celebrate the anniversaries that often he should say it but let's not act as if slipping up once is that much of a big deal. The guy is human too and it's human to sometimes be too tired for shit or forget something.

No. 251795

>>251793
He lied to her about having something planned, so clearly he didn't forget, he was just too lazy to plan for something that's clearly very important to her. Not to mention, how does he forget something that he proposed to do every month? Like I said, if she's the type to put in the effort of remembering and planning every month, her partner should be able to do the same too. It's not some grueling effort or impossible standard to meet.
If it's too stressful for him, he should just say so and she can decide what to do from there.

No. 251796

>>251708
>dated for less than a year 12 years ago
Based on this description alone I feel like I know this guy (no I'm not the ex), very unlikely but it gave me a weird feeling.

No. 251800

>>251795
>He lied to her about having something planned, so clearly he didn't forget
What? That makes no sense, you can plan something and still forget it afterwards.
>Not to mention, how does he forget something that he proposed to do every month?
Sometimes you just forget something.

I'm not saying he couldn't have been in the wrong here but I see no reason to say he's 100%, without a doubt, lied to her. It's possible, not definite. Sometimes you forget shit idk why that's so hard to conceptualize for you.

No. 251804

>>251800
If you think he "just forgot" when they've been doing this every month and she also reminded him, then you have a very naive way of thinking. She was capable of remembering, so that really isn't an excuse.

No. 251808

>>251769
he probably forgot because he realised how stupid it is celebrating an anniversary EVERY SINGLE MONTH LIKE A 10 YEAR OLD
get over yourself anon, you sound annoying asf and you and your bf sound underage and like you're in your first relationship. Jesus christ this hurt to read

No. 251809

>>251808
You sound bitter and unhinged, chill

No. 251818

>>251808
You could have approached this better, but you are not wrong. Monthly anniversaries should only be a big deal when your in high school. Timing forced displays of affection (every month) seems a bit… too much as grown adults. Kinda like an emotional bill due every 30 days. Maybe its so important to OP because of personal insecurities and needing validation refreshed after 4 weeks. Maybe op should reflect why this is so important and why couldn't you just plan little holidays/adventures together. Needing the proof of love every month makes it seem like theres not enough affection in the first place.

No. 251819

>>251761
Once you hit the year mark I feel like you tend to space it out more even if monthly celebrations were the norm before. You say you're dating a year so maybe you're just transitioning into that routine but communication was poor on his end.

Other factors could be.. is money tight for him atm? Or does he associate anniversaries with guaranteed anniversary sex and has that changed lately? Sometimes a large part of why guys even love V day and anniversary dates is getting rewarded with alot of sexual enthusiasm after the celebrations. A pattern I've always noticed in mine and my friends relationships is that the normal slight slowing down of sex and the easing of big romatic gestures tend to go hand in hand. Not even necessarily in a bad way but you don't keep that same energy forever.

No. 251823

>>251808
you're right and you shouldn't have to sugarcoat it. OP sounds like a strung out freak, if her bf isn't giving her enough affection on top of doing monthly anniversaries (rofl) and that causes her to have a meltdown, she needs to break up ASAP and work on her mental health and stay off dating.

No. 251829

>>251808
You sound so bitter lmfao

No. 251830

>>251804
You're right and I'm glad someone is speaking up for op. Anons caping for scrotes, couldn't be me. What is childish and silly to one person is meaningful to another. He literally could've just said he didn't feel like doing it anymore but instead he got her hopes up and disappointed her. Now he seemingly hasn't done anything to make it up to her and hasn't broached the topic further. If he doesn't want to put in consistent effort (like she was) he should move on instead of her having to lower her expectations. Women should never settle for less than they're putting into the relationship, in fact they should be getting much more because men benefit so much just from having a woman in their life.

No. 251831

>>251648
Im sorry anon bitter hags are bashing you. This place isnt good for advice

No. 251833

>>251830
Exactly. Anons telling her to get therapy are pathetic. Im convinced half of this thread are moids trying to convince women they’re crazy for wanting something from their bf

No. 251835

>>251833
>>251830
>half of this thread are moids trying to convince women they’re crazy for wanting something from their bf
>Anons caping for scrotes
In reality 95% of this thread is
>dump your moid

No. 251838

>>251835
Nta but it's almost like the level of desperation someone has to have to come to an anonymous image board for advice already means the relationship is over.

No. 251848

>>251830
Yeah, I'm so tired of people telling women to lower their standards. She clearly takes the relationship very seriously so she deserves a man who returns that effort and consideration three-fold. Men are so blessed to have women who care about them so much, but instead they just cry in the corner about having to put in any semblance of effort. They should just go back to jerking off in socks.
Just because you personally don't want an anniversary every month doesn't mean it's an unfair standard for her to expect in her relationships (and the guy even proposed the idea of it, so what the fuck). I don't get how that's even hard to understand, damn. Different people want different things.

No. 251856

>>251708
I wouldn't involve his parents. He's the one who won't give you a straight answer and he's the one who owes you that. If you can't rely on him to tell you the truth then that's mad shady. Bpd or not you're justified in being concerned and in expecting answers straight from him.

No. 251875

>>251838
how? everyone needs advice in their relationships and friendships from time to time

No. 251885

>>251761
Honestly anon, I think your feelings are valid. Monthly anniversaries aren't that important, but a sudden change in behavior that isn't mutual would worry me as well. It's possible he's just gotten comfortable and stopped caring about showing his affection this way (which is understandable, it can get tiring being in the puppy-love phase for too long) but he needs to communicate that to you. You have to decide for yourself if you're alright moving to a different phase in your relationship, or if you'd rather leave and find someone who will match your efforts and romantic gestures 100%.

No. 251893

>>251761
You should ask him if and why did he change his mind about this
If he doesn't answer why you can ask him if it was because, he didn't like your gifts; i've seen couples that stop doing valentines because the men give them shitty gifts, not saying your gifts are bad btw!! he can't afford this anymore; he got tired of it; he can't think of what to give
Anyways just because you don't plan something once a month doesn't mean you can't have nice moments/experiences together, maybe just space things out
Hope both of you are able to solve this goodluck nonny

No. 251929

hmm my bf is older than me and he is turning 30 soon. he doesn't really care about skincare much too much but he does like to take care of his appearance.

his sister got him a small skincare routine as a present but I want to get him some skincare products that are more effective (i.e. BHA/AHA, sunscreen).

is it rude for me to buy him new skincare and he uses mine instead of his sister? I'm also afraid it is rude for me to tell him to start taking care of his skin, since I don't want him to age like milk lol

No. 251931

>>251711
Nta but thanks for sharing that comic, very insightful.

No. 251932

My friends think my bf is ugly and honestly idc about his looks. I also feel like people judge me for dating him? I just dont get why someone would care about looks. Clearly i love him and hes a sweetheart. Why are my friends just shallow?

No. 251933

>>251929
I hate to see young brainwashed cosmetics consoomers like you. That's not "taking care of yourself". No, don't act as a corporate shill to your bf. Reevaluate your own stance.

No. 251934

>>251929
Its not rude anon. Men need to have a good skincare routine so they age. Let him buy his own stuff. Dont listen to the anon who thinks youre a capitalist shill kek
Think about it. If women have to take care of their skin then so do men. Seriously..

No. 251935

>>251929
Also imo a good cleanser, moisturizer and spf will go a long way! Please dont be shy to tell him to take care of his skin. I make my bf have a skincare routine kek

No. 251936

>>251929
He's already older than you and doesn't use any skincare at 30. He'll age like shit unless you can somehow make him take care of himself but most men wouldn't do it because they believe it's gay and that men aging like leather is hot or something.

No. 251941

>>251934
>If women have to take care of their skin then so do men. Seriously..
Women are brainwashed by the beauty and skincare industry to think we need 10 products to prevent aging. In reality, pre-mature aging is by and large prevented by leading a life-long, consistently healthy lifestyle (plenty of excersise, nutricious diet every day), not smoking/drinking/doing drugs and wearing spf. You can't overcome an unhealthy lifestyle by layering creams and acids on your skin and if you do lead a healthy lifestyle you don't need more than a moisturizer and maybe specialized products to battle skinproblems specific to the person.

No. 251944

>>251929
nta but i also want to look for a simple skincare for my partner, but I am not too sure what brand to get?

No. 251948

>>251941
Sure anon but skincare helps and theres nothing wrong with caring about beauty. Not sure why you think having a skincare routine means we are unhealthy or think it can magically prevent ageing.
A good skincare routine will have your skin soft and smooth. You cant prevent natural ageing but you can help ageing caused by external factors like the sun. Regardless its nice to see males take care of their skin

No. 251949

>>251944
Does he have sensitive skin? Oily skin? Dry skin? You can either check out /skincareaddiction or /asianbeauty on reddif.
Personally i love the hadalabo cleansing foam! Its low ph too. Cerave is very popular in the first subreddit i mentioned. As for spf just try any asian ones tbh

No. 251952

>>251932
Most likely jealous that you have a sweet boyfriend so they have to cope by calling him ugly.

No. 251957

>>251932
>idc about his looks
It just means he's ugly. If you dont mind it, go on but you wouldn't have posted here if you really were fine with dating an unattractive man.

No. 251958

>>251932
>>251952
Nah this is scrote bait indirectly calling women shallow for having standards regarding looks for the men they date.

No. 251959

>>251958
It's so obviously bait, who the hell has friends who openly call your boyfriend ugly aside from middle school bullies?

No. 251961

>>251959
I wouldn't say ugly but most women would tell their friends they could do better if they have an ugly or inconsiderate bf. It's not shallow to have standards and like anon said, it kinda sounds like scrote bait.

No. 251965

>>251961
It depends on the words her friends used, I mean if they openly called him ugly (even if he was) that's dubious. I would tell my friend gently that she's too attractive for him or something that would be more of a compliment for her than an insult.

No. 251976

Nonas can you give me your opinion on what to do with this guy?
I've been seeing him for some time, he's really into me but I'm not sure. We haven't done more than a kiss.
Pros:
>we have so much to talk about the conversation never stops
>he likes the same games as me, same videos on YouTube, it's creepy how much similar we are
>I feel at ease with him and conversation comes naturally, even though I can be autistic about talking to guys
>wants to pay for everything even though I offer to split
>loves cooking (I hate it so it's a good match)
>seems gentle enough
>educated, works, good career
>tries really hard, changes opinions a bit for me kek and gets pretty nervous with me
>makes effort to see me all the time
Cons:
>not sure I'm attracted enough… I think he's a bit below what I'm used to date looks-wise
>no physical activity now (used to be active a lot in past)
>spends too much time on Internet, gaming, possibly frequents some imageboards (I do too but not sure both partners should be like that)
>lied about his age on tinder (he's a year younger than he said, making him 5 years younger than me, we're in our 20s)
>I feel like he might be insecure and sometimes puts me down (but I'm a person that gets offended easily)

I feel like he's not a perfect match but after a year of shitty tinder/irl dating, it's the first time I feel happier because we just have such fun conversations and text all the time. It's very natural.
Should I continue seeing him while still searching? I don't wanna cheat so I can't do that if he wanted to become official…
I feel like his looks are the biggest problem for me. He has potential to improve, he's not bad looking but I feel like he's not that much of my type.

No. 251977

>>251976
If you like talking to him but are not attracted to him, you just made a friend, you don't have to go out with a guy just because he is nice to talk to. If you went out with him and then met the actual guy who is super attractive to you, you would never forgive yourself for settling for this schmuck

No. 251978

>>251976
If you're not sure if you're attracted to him, you're just not. You'd know it if you were. + Lying about his age is a red flag imo. Just those two things are enough to skip and try the next one. There's plenty of men on the market, you don't have to settle.

No. 252069

>>251976
Samefag but he just told me 'you don't have a cleavage so you have to compensate somehow hahah' and mentioned his last gf had big boobs, I'm outta here. Not even a friend material. Why are men

No. 252089

Nonnies who are in a happy relationship, how do you trust your partner?

There's this guy that I kinda like but I'm convinced that 98% of men will take the opportunity to cheat when it's presented to them, no matter how great the relationship is. I have pretty good self-confidence but I think most men chase other women because they have issues, not their partner. I just don't want to get involved with somebody but then have them cheat on me. I'm pretty good on my own but there's just nothing that can replace a romantic relationship for me.

No. 252091

>>252089
To be honest, a lot of men think this way too. My ex drove himself crazy because I had a coworker who was male and he would stalk my fb messenger and my texts to see if we're talking about things other than work. We ended up breaking up because his paranoia just got too much.

It's a human trait not a gendered trait. Women cheat as much as men do and it all comes down to the individual.
You have overall insecurities about getting cheated on, so you should probably work on that a lot more than you are now. If you end up having relationships and just being paranoid all the time you'll drive yourself insane and potentially lose yourself a nice partner.

No. 252093

>>252091
>You have overall insecurities about getting cheated on, so you should probably work on that a lot more than you are now.

I just genuinely don't know what to address and how to work on it though? It's not that I think I'm not good enough, I just fear being with someone who doesn't care about being faithful when it comes to them and I don't know how to be certain that someone isn't like that?

Like I have friends who were with seemingly great partners, who still ended up cheating on them for stupid reasons (not that there is ever a valid reason to cheat) even though these guys seemed caring and attentive.

No. 252095

>>252093
> I just fear being with someone who doesn't care about being faithful
And thats the overall fear that will drive you crazy your entire relationship whether you 'trust' the person or not. Also your friends experiences have now tainted your outlook on relationships going forward. I used to be like you especially when I was younger, and I guess for me its all about gut feelings and actually working on your mental health, specifically anti anxiety stuff like meditation before bed.
Meditation is great and allows you to take strange thoughts or paranoia and channel it into something else. If you ever get into a relationship with this logic you train yourself to think that every text your bf gets MUST be from another woman because thats how you've programmed yourself now. And thats not a fun way to be in any relationship either with a man or woman (again, my ex was like this and we just couldn't have a quiet night together at one point in the relationship when he just got too spooked about me 24/7 even though I was faithful)
Its also kind of a gut feeling type of thing. Once you're with someone you sort of 'know' if their love is pure for you, so you should try listening to your 'gut feeling' a lot too.

But otherwise there's no 'true' advice on how to know if your partner is cheating or not. Sure I can suggest you be toxic and check their phone and computer every single day and night (im sure you can do it like once a year, I think everyone does it to eachother at some point or another in a relationship), or I can tell you to learn to manage your emotion and trust levels with other people and life will take care of the rest. If I knew a tree would fall on me tomorrow I would avoid the forest. But how can I ever really know?

No. 252096

>>252093
>I don't know how to be certain that someone isn't like that?
Ntayrt but you can never be sure. It sucks I know, but there is only one person you have control of in life and that’s you. A guy may be great for years then throw it all away in a day. Might cheat once and hide it from you for the rest of your life. You can literally never be 100% certain. You can take measures to feel relatively confident they won’t, like vetting for honesty, consistency, effort, transparency, good treatment of family and women in general, positive friend group, communication and all that. If they’ve repeatedly gone above and beyond your expectations over an extended period of time they probably won’t. I think >>252091 point is sound though. If cheating is a huge concern for you then you either get to the point you’re willing to take the risk on someone or else just not date. Not being flippant, but it’s like the only way to totally avoid getting an STD is not to have sex. You can and should take precautions, but sometimes things still happen. You have to have the confidence and outlook to know you could pick yourself back up and move on, not let it negatively impact your life for ages afterwards. Even more than that, it’s not something you’d want to negatively impact your life before it happens or despite the fact it may never happen.

No. 252097

>>252093
>Like I have friends who were with seemingly great partners, who still ended up cheating on them for stupid reasons
You don't know how their relationship is behind closed doors. Women cheat because of reasons, it's either because their partners are neglectful, selfish(in bed or personality) or even sometimes physically abusive, which aren't things an outsider can notice.

No. 252099

>>252095
>>252096
Thanks for the advice, nonnies.

>>252097
Of course I don't, but my very close friends were very open to me about it (even if some things were embarassing and too TMI) and the problem most of them had, was that their partners weren't genuine about communicating properly. They were either dishonest about their needs/ desires/ low self-esteem or other things about the relationship that would eventually lead to them cheating. I'm not saying that these women were perfect in their relationship either but for me there's nothing that justifies cheating.

My best friend for example, went above and beyond to make the relationship work, and it seemed to be going well for a while because he kept telling her he could feel the spark again, meanwhile he was doing it with a co-worker for months because she'd to things in bed that my best friend wouldn't but he'd reassure her how it's okay that she's not into that.

I don't want to sound mopey and I'm sorry if I do, it's just that so many men have disappointed me and those who are close to me (family members, friends, partners etc) that it has soured my look on things but ofc I know I'll have to get over it somehow if I want a relationship. And by "disappointed" I mean in terms of fidelty and honesty when it comes to relationships.

I know, not all men, enough women do it too. It's just that the ratio of how many men I'm close to (good friends, family members) and of how many of them are lying cheaters is just too high for me.

No. 252101

>>252099
Yeah you're right. Men cheat for retarded reasons, I spoke for women who cheat above. Men who cheat do so because they just wanna be with more women because of their low self esteem, humiliates the mistress in the ways they don't see their wife in such as anal and pissplay, etc., or just have something over their wives. Most mistresses are sad women and it's disgusting hearing the things they do just to keep the married man around.

No. 252104

>>252097
> Women cheat because of reasons, it's either because their partners are neglectful, selfish(in bed or personality) or even sometimes physically abusive, which aren't things an outsider can notice.

I agree, even though I obviously don't condone it. Most men who cheat however just want to have their cake and eat it too. They want a relationship and partner that gives them stability, that they can show off and that earns them societal approval. Men are obsessed with status. If the relationship lacks something, they'd rather keep up the facade and cheat than address it and potentially end the relationship.

No. 252165

>>252104
Thing is, most of the time it doesn't even lack anything. Mostly I've seen ugly old moids with young beautiful caring wives who cheated on them with ugly as fuck women, no random whore can provide much as the mother of his children but he still decides to fuck her over. Men do it as a powermove when women do it as a way to cope with actual relationship problems when they can't leave for reasons. Men also cheat when their wives are pregnant or just given birth, that's how sick their cheating habits are while for women it's a desperate search for someone to adore her, which is always unsuccessful, because she feels alienated and unloved in her relationship. I'm a bit loaded about this topic but I simply despise how women who cheat because of reasonable reasons, such as physically abusive husbands, get shit for it while men get forgiven all the time. It's like women don't deserve to be happy and give up everything for their relationship while moids are free to fuck around and the wife should just forgive him.

No. 252170

>>252097
>Women cheat because of reasons
This is true sometimes, but sometimes women can cheat for no actual reason. I think that is kind of a nonsensical generalization to make.

No. 252171

>>252165
I agree anon. What also bothers me is that the woman is still often blamed for when her moid is cheating, because, you know, there always has to be a reason that is caused by the woman. It makes me mad. No, the moid is cheating because he's an ass without conscience. Some just can't grasp that there are people who are shitty for no good reason.

No. 252178

>>252093
> I have friends who were with seemingly great partners, who still ended up cheating on them for stupid reasons
I had a guy cheat on me after three years of living together. Sometimes I find people are quick to assume that there's always warning signs and you can watch out and always totally avoid bad situations like that but shit does just blindisde you sometimes and that's a harsh reality of dating and putting trust in someone. I don't like to talk about this too much irl because it's amazing how people find a way to blame the person who got cheated on.. I didn't have a crystal ball. I wasn't a mind reader. He was a good cheater. He covered his tracks and appeared like he was planning a whole future with me. It happens and it can be so nonsensical to the injured partner left behind. We were having sex often, we were making plans and making them happen, his other woman was somehow everything he had always said he didn't want in a partner, from her body type to her having kids to her having partners still half in the picture to her not working and taking benefits to her smoking.. on and on, all these things he had been vocal about avoiding in gfs. I can't make it make sense. No way could I ever of predicted that with muh skills.

More than anything I just don't want his behaviour to give me issues that I'll carry into the next relationship. I can get over the few years I wasted on him, I'm pretty much there but I'd almost rather be blindisded again than live in fear and ruin a good thing. Some people are obvious and give out signs but there's only so much that you can read a person.

No. 252182

>>252178
I'm so sorry he put you through this but thank you for your insight because this is exactly the thing I fear the most in a relationship. Some people are just that good at hiding things from you and sometimes even your gut instinct doesn't seem to pick up on anything weird but then it just hits you like a ton of bricks when it happens.

This also happend to one of my aunts(even down to the part about cheating with someone who he claimed was not his type at all) and we all felt like a wave was crashing over us, not just my aunt, because we've all been lied to by her husband and not just regarding his cheating. He was basically living two lives and suddenly we all started questioning if all the moments we've shared with him were ever genuine.

>I'd almost rather be blindisded again than live in fear and ruin a good thing


That's really admirable, nonna. I hope that one day I'll be able to feel the same way because my mistrust keeps making me extremely miserable and lonely.

No. 252204

>>252182
Cheating is as unpredictable as people who get murdered randomly by their partners. You don't know whats going on or whats going on in someones mind until it literally happens to you. Just like in this anons case >>252178

There is no advice, relationships have always just been a huge bungee jump. You either end up having a great time or the chord can break and you plummet. You just never know and you can only work on yourself and your overall outlook on life. You can't change other peoples decisions in the end, only your own reactions and choices.

No. 252205

>>252182
Cheating is as unpredictable as people who get murdered randomly by their partners. You don't know whats going on or whats going on in someones mind until it literally happens to you. Just like in this anons case >>252178

There is no advice, relationships have always just been a huge bungee jump. You either end up having a great time or the chord can break and you plummet. You just never know and you can only work on yourself and your overall outlook on life. You can't change other peoples decisions in the end, only your own reactions and choices.

No. 252217

>>252171
I agree. When women cheat, it's her fault and she deserves to die, if men cheat, it's women's fault and she deserves emotional abuse and the stds. It's such a retarded mind society has.

No. 252222

>>252095
NTA but what kind of meditation do you recommend and how long? Do you do it more times a day?

No. 252235

My boyfriend has been getting on my nerves lately but I am not sure if anything he is doing deserves a break-up. He always complains about the same stuff, e.g. his roommates, the drivers at my apartment complex, and bad drivers on the road, yet he never does anything to address it other than just fuming. He never takes his anger out on me or on physical objects and I never fear for my safety, but it is still annoying to hear him work himself into a lather over things he cannot change, like inconsiderate drivers or poorly parked cars. Also, I hate asking him how to do things because in his desire to be helpful and thorough, he gives overly long-winded explanations that go into too much detail and leave me more confused than when I started. His stories are similar, and I find it very hard to pay attention when he begins to ramble. Lastly, despite being a very capable cook, whenever we cook from a recipe he is afraid to deviate from the instructions and trust his own judgement - even if we have made that recipe before. His fastidiousness ends up costing a lot of time since he keeps referring back to his phone and asking me a bunch of questions that I am frankly no more qualified to answer than he is. As someone with diagnosed executive function disorders, I feel like I ought to be more forgiving of these tendencies, but on the other hand it is annoying to live with someone who makes so much noise about nothing all the time. I would not even know where to begin addressing any of these complaints without being overly blunt and making him upset.

No. 252237

>>252235
uhh well, talk to him kek. communication is important in relationships, he won't know what he needs to change if you don't tell him what's bothering you. i don't think it's being overly blunt at all, especially if you don't tell him in an "i'm attacking you" kind of way, but rather tell him nicely

No. 252238

>>251399
i've been girlfriends with this girl for three months now and for the most part it has been great but two weekends in a row she’s done things that have really hurt me and i’m struggling to figure out what to do in this situation.

the first weekend after we had dinner together she called one of her friends to go out with us to go clubbing and it was all fine at first until she got really drunk. this guy came up to us and started talking to my girlfriend and they had a casual conversation before he gave her his instagram and she accepted. I’m not a super jealous person so i didn’t think too much of it until later in the night he tried to kiss her but she rejected him. it just got crazier as the night went on and while we were dancing she started grinding on some guy and i pulled her off, and then at some point we got separated for what felt like no time at all and when we found each other again she exclaimed how 3 people kissed her. i knew we just had to leave at that point even when she was complaining she didn’t want to go and i made sure she got in an uber before i left.

the next day i told her how hurt i was about everything and she was really apologetic and promised me it would never happen again and i chose to believe her, but then the next weekend we went out again and it was all normal until i had to leave early to do uni work. she called me the next day crying saying how she made out with a girl and how she was so sorry and how she didn’t want to lose me. i’m really easily swayed by people being emotional like that so i told her just to calm down and we would figure it all out.

one thing that put me off when she texted me later about it was how she said she blocked the girl that ‘seduced’ her on instagram. it just feels so weird that she’s trying to put some of the blame on this girl that she chose to make out with.

it’s all made more difficult because before this all went down we booked flights to go to my family’s holiday apartment in three weeks with her best friend that i’ve gotten close to over these past months. i just don’t know if i have it in me now to hang out with her for a whole week. she offered to just let me and her friend go and she can stay behind while i figure everything out but i’m just hesitant to do that because i’m not sure how awkward it would be with just me and her because we’ve never really hung out just one on one. i don’t want to cancel the whole trip because it’ll be unfair on my girlfriend’s best friend and she’ve been really excited to go.

typing this all out now i may seem like such a dumbass for still being with her but i’ve gotten into a routine in my life with her in it and i’m so used to her being there for me that i can’t imagine her not being my girlfriend. i’m 19 and she’s the second partner i’ve ever had so maybe that has something to do with it. i just need some help or guidance in this situation because i don’t have anyone close to in this situation to give me advice.

No. 252244

>>252235
I can relate to this looking back on a past partner. Even when a guy isn't raging at you or full on taking shit out on you it can feel like alot if they're venting frustrations all the time with an angry tone. And when it's stuff like bad drivers on the roads getting to them it's time to work on taking a few breaths and learning how to soothe yourself sometimes. There's a shitload of books and techniques out there where people recognize they're handling lifes daily stressors poorly and they address it. See if you can suggest something like that without him taking offense.

No. 252245

>>252238
girl you need to break up with her. it seems like you’re viewing this through the fallacy of sunk costs and i think that is making you unhappy. like the fact that she kissed other ppl when you were not okay with it and seemed to be playing along with the flirting of other people is seriously messed up.

you’re only 19 and you still have so many people you’ve yet to meet, experiences to have etc. it sounds cheesy but it’s true. you need to ask yourself if you’re really wanting her to be the one for you.

plus you’ve only been together for 3 months. get out now lol. if you stay together i’m sure resentment is going to build up and honestly it seems like you’re setting yourself up to be hurt. this girl clearly doesn’t care about you as much as you care about her and she doesn’t respect your feelings, that much is clear.

No. 252253

>>252238
Leave are you restarted she kissed someone else

No. 252258

>>252238
She's cheated on you multiple tomes. For some reason you haven't called it that and maybe you're in refusal that she has, but that's what it is.

No. 252299

>>252235
He sounds exhausting. This isn't a one-off thing you can nicely ask him to fix, you're asking him to change his whole attitude about the world. Personally I would dump someone so stressful. A partner is supposed to improve your life most of the time, not make it more difficult.

No. 252319

>>252238
I was in a relationship just like this at your age. We did the same betraying, confronting, apologising, forgiving, doing-it-all-over-again dance for years. It absolutely sucked the life out of me. I can say with absolute certainty leaving my ex behind was the beginning of my first "mental growth spurt," so to speak. If you're worried about being inexperienced and immature, this is your cue to trust your intuition and grow up.
Stop making excuses for her, and don't make them for yourself either. How low is your self-esteem? Do you deserve to be mistreated? What right does she have to hurt you? Where is your self-respect? Why doesn't she respect you? If a friend of yours was having the same problem, what would you tell her to do? Be a friend to yourself and make the choice that you already know is right.
I am so much better off without my ex because I no longer waste energy worrying over what awful thing she's going to do to me next. Yes, she's part of your routine. Are you going to let her hurting you become normal too, so that she can further degrade your boundaries? Or are you going to get out now that she's shown you who she really is?
She cheated on you. Repeatedly. She lied about being sorry. She lied about never doing it again— even though once is already reason enough to split. Is that the kind of person who you want to be "irreplaceable" in your life?
I'm sorry if I sound harsh. I just don't want you to make the same mistakes I did.

TLDR if you are posting about her in Lolcow vent/advice threads, it's already over. Cut your losses and go.

No. 252391

My bf just moved in and it's been 2 days that he's stays up till 4 pm to play vidya. I don't like this behaviour. I also despise men playing vidya. I really love him so I can tolerate him playing but not him staying up late everyday he can. I think this is going to be a big problem and I asked him if he's ever going to bed with me at 10pm and he said no. I feel really bad about this. We've been 3 years together and I love him so much but i dont want to be with a loser that destroys his life like this. I am going to watch his behaviour for a while but if I keep feeling like shite everynight am absolutely dumping his ass

No. 252395

>>252391
10 pm is too early, 4 am is too fucking late. Talk and decide on a time that fits both of you like midnight or 1 am, imo. I assume there are other issues since you wanna dump him, though? Does he have other problems and disrespect you in other ways?

No. 252397

>>252391
As a woman that also loves staying up playing vidya like this I do feel bad for automatically judging video hames as bad. It's just like any other entertainment. I also like being up at night because things feel more calm and I get to be alone. My bf is the same as you, he always wants to go to bed together and it's fucking suffocating. And he might have friends to play with from different timezones. HOWEVER, if he spends his time actually just cooming to porn the whole night it's concerning, and if his school or work suffers from it.

No. 252399

>>252391
in bed by 10pm? are you depressed? also how did you not know this would happen if you were together for 3 years?

No. 252401

>>252399
NTA but what the heck, since when did you need to be depressed to go to bed at 10pm? Some people actually go to work in the morning.

No. 252402

>>252401
Yeah I agree, I think depression more often makes you stay up kte rather than go to sleep early. But anyway I don't think you can demand anyone to go to sleep at a certain time

No. 252403

>>252399
Nta but going to bed doesn't mean going to sleep immediately, you can read a book or watch a movie there, I generally have nothing more to do after dinner so I'm in my bed at 9:30 and just do whatever there.

No. 252406

>>252399
>In bed by 10pm, are you depressed?
Nona 10pm is a reasonable time to go to bed. If you need to wake at 6 like a lot of adults do, that's 8 hours of sleep which is normal/healthy.

No. 252414

>>252391
I used to have a bad sleep schedule but when I lived with my last partner and he had to have a decent bedtime set for work I would get into bed with him at 10, we'd cuddle, chat, fool around, fuck, cuddle again and I'd get up after he fell asleep. Then I'd go watch dumb youtube vids in the living room for a bit. That worked for us. We needed to still have that quality time.

No. 252422

I was the fucking dumbass on the MtF thread joking about my bf watching tranny porn occasionally, and everyone umderstandably went off on me how he WILL troon out too despite acting like he hates trannies too.

Idk what to do, I fear they are actually right. He does not seem like a huge coomer or anything, and I doubt he would go fuck one behind my back. He is bisexual, though since his mother is a muslim convert he still has a lot of denial of it. I'm bisexual too, and his sexuality is one if the reasons I was interested in a serious relationship. And this is the fact that will make most of you angry, but I am myself interested in an open relationship and have told him he can fuck other people if he wants, I don't give a shit.

He has told me he is not interested in fucking other people at all though. He does not seem the type to troon out but idk anymore, you never can tell these days. How do I ask sneakily enough if he still watches tranny porn without seeming psychotic with my hatred of men in dresses? Asking would only lead to him hiding it from me I'm quite certain. I have 0 trust a woman can make their male partner from watching porn. Pretty sure even if nonnas here claim their lil moidies don't watch it, they still do behind their backs.

I'm losing my fucking mind. Anyway, please spare me your "whore cunt bihet degenarate bitch" replirs, I already know I should kys for being like this waah waah

No. 252423

>>252422
i'll try to put this as nicely as possible kek. first of all,
>he doesn't seem like a huge coomer or anything
you're seriously okay with him watching tranny porn, even occasionally? if he watches it it turns him on, so he's either an agp and gets sexually aroused by troons and the thought of being one, or if he watches mtf tranny porn he might be a closeted gay guy. there's really no other reason for a guy to be watching tranny porn, especially if he claims he "hates" them
>And this is the fact that will make most of you angry, but I am myself interested in an open relationship and have told him he can fuck other people if he wants, I don't give a shit.
at the end of the day it's your decision and your relationship, but in my experience, guys that seek open relationships are usually coomers and not great people to be in relationships with. if he doesn't even have enough self-restraint to keep his dick in his pants while in a relationship with someone he loves then he's not worth your time.
>I have 0 trust a woman can make their male partner from watching porn. Pretty sure even if nonnas here claim their lil moidies don't watch it, they still do behind their backs.
just because a lot of men do it behind women's backs doesn't mean we should be okay with it or encourage it kek. it's your relationship, you're supposed to set the boundaries. who knows, maybe you have a guy that actually respects you and would be willing not to be a coomer to protect your relationship (though by your description it doesn't sound like it)

tdlr love yourself and i hope it works out well for you nona

No. 252424

>>252422
do you care about him watching specifically tranny porn, or porn in general?

>I have 0 trust a woman can make their male partner from watching porn. Pretty sure even if nonnas here claim their lil moidies don't watch it, they still do behind their backs.


I sort of agree and disagree with you here, there are actually men who don't watch it at all but the chances of a moid watching and lying about porn are just overall higher than him genuinely finding it disgusting and not watching it at all, thanks to the average male's inability to better himself and just have empathy for exploited women.
You can also block porn via your internet router settings, it's usually called "child safe settings" or something along those lines. I have pornography blocked by default on mine and I'm the only one who knows the password. I don't know if it's possible to bypass that shit with a vpn though?
In regards to the tranny thing as well: there's a very short slippery slope involved. It starts with tranny porn, they find out about sissy stuff, and then for whatever fucked up reason they decide they may actually be a woman or just get off to the thought of that. This happens even with men who seem very traditionally masculine and "non-coomer". The effect that porn has on the brain is underestimated and extremely damaging.
Unless I've misunderstood you and you're okay with him watching porn, I'd seriously just look into blocking all access to it first. The fact he's already watching tranny stuff, even if it's just "sometimes", indicates to me it's probably not the only weird 'genres' he's into, but I don't want to assume things about him nor your relationship.

No. 252429

>>252089
Honestly… The cultural fixation on cheating seems really juvenile to me. Basically everyone cheats or has been/will be embroiled in some jealousy saga involving friends or co-workers or old flames or charismatic strangers at the charity event etc. Haven't you ever read Anna Karenina? In my experience, the only thing you can do is accept that nothing is permanent, everything can change -your boyfriend is probably more likely to step in front of traffic and die from a terrible accident than he is to find himself in the perfect scenario for him to cheat on you, and what then? You will lose him as well. He might just dump you. A war might happen. Why on earth is this person guaranteed to you and what makes you think he should be? Just live your life and love the people you happen to love because that's the whole point of human attraction. Build something with him that's worthwhile because it's worth your while to do so, but the next chapter of your life can and will start at a moment's notice and that's true for everyone and it seems kind of petulant to me to be so fixated on cheating as the WORST sin when really it's just that someone took something of yours… Quite a natural part of life if you ask me. I'm not trying to condone cheating but I just feel like the hyper focused element of human jealousy gives it a special status in our angry, grieving hearts when really it's just another part of life.

No. 252431

>>252422
anons are being absolutely ridiculous in face of the facts here. according to the available statistics, at most around 0,3% of the population is a transitioning mtf. meanwhile, tranny porn is so damn popular among bi and "straight" men that it should be obvious that 99% of them don't end up trooning out, the numbers just don't add up.

now, how you feel about him watching porn you don't approve of is another thing, but it's your relationship, you have to know how much it bothers you and where your boundaries are. breaking up with your real life bf to appeal to the ideal standards of anonymous internet strangers you've never met is retarded.

No. 252437

>>252431
He might not troon out himself but that doesn't mean he isn't an AGP and has a fetish.
It all comes down to what the op is comfortable with as we've said previously. If you're ok with him fetishizing troons as long as he doesn't transition himself, then that's on you. If the relationship genuinely makes you happy then that's the most important thing, right? I read your posts on the MTF thread and you also mentioned wanting to fuck around and be in an open relationship, so obviously you guys work pretty well with each other.

No. 252441

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>>252423
>>252424
Thanks for responding nicely anons and not calling me a whore lol. Idk if it came across that I support his tranny or whatever porn habit at all but like I said, I do not trust any moid's ability to NOT watch it. He would just watch it in secret (not that he openly does it now) and bitch to his friends how I'm controlling. I also do not want to be like a fucking parent to him and limit his wifi access like for a child, good god. He is also technically more advanced than me and we both have unlimited phone internet.

>>252437
Oh he doesn't want an open relationship at all, he's very jealous (while I'm not at ALL). I'm the degenerate one here, though I'm trying to get rid of that desire but it is quite hard. Idk maybe I'm a porn brain melted coomer too.

>>252431
Ok the math does make me feel a bit better, thanks nonna.
>breaking up with your real life bf to appeal to the ideal standards of anonymous internet strangers you've never met is retarded
Kek, agree

No. 252442

>>252441
>I also do not want to be like a fucking parent to him and limit his wifi access like for a child, good god.
Yeah I definitely agree with you on that, I disagree with anons suggesting you limit his internet access and whatnot, he's a grown ass man he shouldn't need you to play his mother and block porn sites for him to stop watching porn. Well I hope it all works out for you, anon.

No. 252444

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>>252442
Thank you anon, a huggy for you

No. 252445

>>252442
I don't see the problem with blocking porn on the internet settings - it's a child-safe by name but I don't see the issue in blocking it if you're against porn for whatever reason. I have it blocked because I don't ever want that exploitative shit to come up, and I don't want anyone visiting or staying at my home thinking they can look at that content, boyfriend or not. I think imo it's perfectly acceptable to block websites which quite literally host degenerate fetishes and illegal content. More people should do it.

No. 252454

>>252441
Personally nonny i just send nudes to my bf and he doesnt watch porn.

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>>252454
I have done that as well but my ex boyfriend kept them all and apparently still jerks off to them

No. 252462

>>252429
I don't have a problem with things not being permanent nor do I expect someone to be "guaranteed" to me. I am aware that feelings and attraction can change over the years and I'm fine with that, even if it results in a breakup. I just want them to be honest with me instead of cheating behind my back because communication,trust and honesty are some of the most important things in a relationship for me. How else am I supposed to build something worthwhile in a monogamous relationship with somebody? If someone can't be honest with you about this matter then how do you expect them to be honest with you about anything else? Also, cheating is a choice, in my opnion. Not something that's just part of life and that everyone will/should experience.

No. 252479

>>252391
Could he compromise and go to bed with you at least some days of the week? I can relate to the other anon who likes staying up late and having alone time. It could be suffocating to have that expected every night, but even like 3 or 4 days out of the week seems like a reasonable expectation. Besides, it’s not like you got to sleep immediately at 10. It sounds like you just want to get comfortable and spend time with him before you go to sleep. Partnerships are all about compromise so if he isn’t willing to do that for you then you have a right to feel angry and hurt.

No. 252513

nonnys I got into a huge fight with my bf because he said whenever I hang out with my girl friends I become a bitch to him. But the truth is whenever I hang with them they make me feel like I should have standards and stand up for myself. At least I think?

I can't tell if I'm just in a shitty relationship and or if my friends are really 'brainwashing me' to hate being in relationships as he says.

No. 252517

>>252513
I don't know your friends or your man but I would be willing to bet my home, all my possessions and my life savings that you're in a shitty relationship and your gfs are just dying for the day you dump his undeserving ass and maintain your standards. A quality man would not need to defend his character against your friends, believe me. You're in it deep though to be questioning their word. Take a look at this book when you can, I'd also bet that if he's not physically abusive that he is emotionally abusive and that's just as draining and miserable a position to be in: https://ia800108.us.archive.org/30/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf

No. 252519

>>252517
I will also add, a quality man wouldn't attack you and call you a bitch for raising the question of his value in your life. The fact it's coming up at all is a problem in itself, but he should calmly discuss it and respect where you're coming from even if you felt heated. If anything you should seek more outside opinions on your relationship because you're settling for some overemotional ragetard instead of a kind and rational partner.

No. 252520

>>252513
Well tell us exactly what your girl friends think and what standards your bf does or doesn't live up to.

No. 252527

>>252517
>>252519
thanks for the answers. I'm gunna read that book after work thanks for the suggestion.

>>252520
My girlfriends think that my bf is acting shady because he doesn't ever post photos of us on any of his social media. He's a photographer so he says he only posts his art on social media (which is true, all his stuff is his art stuff) but the fact he doesn't even have 1 photo of us together (of JUST us, not with friends as well) is odd.
But the stupid thing is he'll post his gym selfies on his insta stories constantly. So why can he never post a pic of us on his stories or his feed…
We also like rarely go out, ever. Granted, covid and all, but seriously, like never. We've been dating for like 6 years now too and he's been like this since the start.

There's also a bunch of small things. tldr I don't really feel like he 'wants' me. He hugs me/kisses me when I come home from work or w.e, or we cuddle, but we have sex like maybe once a week if that and it's never been this bad. He doesn't really put effort into the relationship like I do.

I've known him for a long time and before he was with me he was with another girl who he posted photos of themselves together all the time. It honestly makes me feel super insecure and down, I used to feel pretty happy with my body and what not, ate well and worked out a lot, but I can feel like my mental health dipping and myself restricting/working out several times a day because I can't help but feel like it's because I'm not good enough.

Anyway our big fight was me kind of unloading all that at him. He basically told me it wasn't true and trying to give me evidence against it but like, I just can't help what I feel. It sucks because I obviously love him but I don't think I can keep going in a relationship where it seriously feels like he's lowkey cheating on me at worst, or at best, fantasizing about his ex gf. I know.. I'm stupid. I get it.

No. 252530

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>>252527
You're not stupid nonna. I had an ex I was unhappy with, different reasons, but he did that same "show me evidence" shit and of course I could not show evidence of how I just felt. When I left, I felt no remorse. Of course I was sad for "wasting" over 6 years, and things were weird living on my own, but god it was the best decision of my life.

I'm sending you a HUGE hug nonna. And again, you are NOT stupid silly.

No. 252531

>>252527
You aren't stupid, TRUST YOUR GUT. Men will stay with women they don't particularly like or aren't attracted to because it's easy and convenient, if you feel like he doesn't want you it's very possible that's the case. And I mean, 6 years? Why hasn't he proposed yet? Res flags everywhere. If you don't feel loved and wanted, wtf is the point… being single is better.

No. 252534

>>252530
>>252531
thank you nonas, you have no idea how much I appreciate your comments. I have to see him today after work, was staying with my parents after the fight. I was going to give him a chance based on what he was going to say today but I think you girls and my friends are right. I need to trust my gut and try to heal from this mess.

If you have any suggestions on good movies or shows to watch to deal with this break up shit please let me know lol if not I'm just gunna crawl under a rock and cry myself to sleep.

No. 252538

I've been dating my bf for 4 years, we are in our 20s and this is the first relatoship for both of us. Everything was amazing until 3 month ago he confesed to me he sexted a 14 year old when he was 18. At first he didn't know her age but didn't stop when he did. This has broke me in such a way that I don't know how to keep going. I was sexually abused as a child and he's been with me through all these years of therapy. He never told me this because he knew i'll break me. He says i'm in my right to leave him but I love him. He used to be terminally online at 18 (just like me) and this girl was one of the first "friends" he ever had.
He's super sweet and overall a great boyfriend, quitted porn when we got together and started going to therapy since he told me. I genuinely think we love each other but I just feel sick knowing he used to be THAT kind of person. Even tho I know for sure he's not anymore

No. 252540

I can't help but feel like shit and so sexually frustrated because my boyfriend and I never have sex. Part of it is down to my vaginismus and self image making sex feel like a humiliating chore and honestly, sometimes I feel like he just doesn't find me that sexually attractive anymore. I gained weight over lockdown but I'm weightlifting 4x a week at the gym now, but idk it feels like that primal urge (sorry if that sounds cringe) or lust isn't there anymore. I constantly think about him sexually, but I sort of think he doesn't feel the same towards me anymore. I don't even know what to do and being spontaneous is difficult because of vaginismus…having to "prep" sexual contact and train my body not to seize up is fucking exhausting. I feel like a huge part of what makes me feel loved and wanted in a relationship is dying off and I'm just looking at it hopelessly because my body is broken and I feel like I'm forgotten about sexually.
Is there any hope for me nonnies? I feel so abnormal and embarrassed.

No. 252544

>>252538
Sorry nona, that's rough. I have no advice for you, I wouldn't know what to do in your position honestly. Hope you can somehow make a decision that you can feel at peace with.

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This is really cringe but I have to vent about it somewhere. I think I met my soulmate online but I’m obviously not 100% sure he is. He just has a scary amount of things in common with me but his personality is completely different than mine and I feel like we compliment each other. Like we literally have the most niche insane things in common and he’s really fucking cute. He called me for the first time last night and we talked for 2 hours!!! Is this good? He hasn’t texted me at all today but I plan on ignoring him indefinitely until he seems interested. How do I not chase/have enough confidence in myself to be okay with it if he doesn’t ever talk to me again? I’m this close to being done with men forever hence why I’m here.

No. 252579

>>252534
I'm so proud of you anon, you do deserve everything you crave in a relationship and I fully believe in time you'll be so much happier you let go of someone who wasn't on your level. You should never be invalidated for wanting someone who improves your life rather than being a continual source of disappointment and stress. Maybe it's just me, but seeing or reading any romance-related media right after the split was way too painful. I know everyone hates Reddit, but honestly this post has good advice and this sort of content was more helpful in realizing other people had been through similar things and I could get through it too: https://www.reddit.com/r/BreakUps/comments/7k7nqd/harsh_truths_and_tips_for_moving_forward/
It is okay to mourn the loss of the relationship and miss the good times, but try to always keep perspective and counter the positive thoughts with memories of his shadiness and lack of effort. The goal isn't to keep your ex on a pedestal nor paint him black, but just to remember he was a fallible person who was not the right fit for you. In moving on you are opening yourself up to much better opportunities in the future.

No. 252584

>>252540
I have never been with a partner who has vaginismus but I have been with others who had trauma surrounding sex or didn't always feel up for penetration, and all I can say is that there's no excuse for you and your boyfriend not to enjoy physical intimacy. Even if you can't always have PIV sex or that particular act is too stressful right now. Please do not feel broken or ashamed about dealing with mental triggers. With the right person, I promise they will not care and will work with you. I was so happy to do whatever my ex was comfortable with whether it oral, using hands, dirty talking, or just general intimate stuff like kissing, cuddling and massages. To me there is never any excuse to feel unsexy and undesired in a relationship. If it's lacking that then it's not serving one of its main intended purposes. Yes, you should work on improving your self image, but there's something to be said for having a partner who is genuinely excited to be with you in whatever capacity you're able to give. To me, your post reads like you really want to enjoy your sexuality but are struggling, and imo your boyfriend barely putting in effort and not doing anything to alleviate the stress surrounding the act will only compound those issues. Please don't settle for someone who is not consistently showing up for you. Also, the partner I had who dealt with intimacy issues greatly improved. It took time but it happened. You can absolutely do the same.

No. 252587

>>252559
>How do I not chase/have enough confidence in myself to be okay with it if he doesn’t ever talk to me again?
Stay busy, consistently do mental exercises to strengthen your self esteem so you love/prioritize yourself more than any other person, have plenty of goals and hobbies outside of the dating world, get excited about your own life to the point that a good man would simply be a cherry on top instead of the whole ice cream.

No. 252602

>used to fuck this guy on and off
>we were also really good friends the whole time, I mean years
>reasons for not fucking often varied between moving to different towns, being in relationships, just preoccupation with life, and an understanding that we wouldn't ever be anything more so natural fatigue
>my current boyfriend of 2 years has at one point seen this guy and I a d knows we used to fuck and this really triggered him as we have a lot of obvious chemistry which I completely understand and was sympathetic to his jealousy
>unofficially just stopped ever talking to this guy out of respect for my bf as we had quite a fairly established precedent of going cold/quiet on each other due to all manner of circumstances and kind of respect that, occasionally years of not talking even
>this guy recently reached out to me as he is in a new city (mine) with no friends and having a hard time and he asked to catch up with me and my boyfriend - he's a really oblivious and kind of naive extrovert so I know this seems reasonable to him and frankly he can get girls just fine so I know he doesn't need to go back through old flames or anything
>I know for a fact that my boyfriend will absolutely not go for this, he will completely veto the idea and it will definitely blow up if I ever even mentioned it because he is quite a jealous person which he deals with as best he can and holds himself accountable for his feelings but this would be a lot for him
So… The question is.. even though I really don't mind doing it, I really don't. But do I just completely ghost this guy? I would honestly have no problem under any other circumstances but this guy was and has been a really good friend to me and doing so feels kind of really callous and brutal but if I'm being honest I think if I even replied to this guy and told him why I couldn't and did the courtesy of telling him the upfront truth my boyfriend would still be pissed at me and just definitely overwhelmed.

No. 252603

>>252602
You should just text him the truth about why you think it would be a bad idea for you to meet him and all. He's a big boy, he can deal with not having you here, kek.

No. 252617

>>252602
Men aren't clueless, he knows your bf is the reason you're not close but wants to see if he can still have you around by making that offer.
>>252603
If he's really that much of a retard, do what this anon said and he should be understanding.

No. 252631

Maybe some of you remember my post on the last thread about my friends being too much & overbearing, and me investing too much time into their lives instead of mine. I can't find my old post, but I have an update!
A few weeks ago, I finally set up some boundaries. After a few days of spending a lot of time together again, I withdrew myself because of stress / not feeling well. That did not sit well with all of them, and I had to have a talk about my boundaries. About time management issues I have, and how I want to make MY life better.
I explained myself, how I need time to myself and that it has nothing to do with me not liking them at all.
Half of my friends took it really well and are cheering me on, the other half is pissed, I guess? They feel entitled to me telling them beforehand if I don't want to meet up, even if there aren't any plans made yet, and that does not really make sense to me. I think I let them have too much of me for too long, and now I have to pay the prize.

Either way, I finally set some boundaries and I feel good about it.

No. 252643

>>252602
I agree with the anon who says he wants to see if you're still "on" with him even though you're in a relationship. He's trying to check out how it is going. Whether you like it or not, both of you have shown to each other that you both have an ongoing relationship that is still "on" in a sense during relationships - it's not truly "off" since you both can expect what will happen in the event either of you break up with a partner. It's a kind of loyalty layer that transcends your relationships. I suspect you will only be free if this friendship ends, most people would consider that a major red flag.

No. 252646

>>252602
Just text him no, you don't even have to explain yourself. You're spending too much mental energy on an old fwb. He's also definitely not as naive as you think he is, be careful with that.

No. 252655

>>252646
>He's also definitely not as naive as you think he is
This. It's a grown ass man we are talking about.

No. 252668

>>252631
Congrats anon, I'm proud of you! Honestly I think relationship advice should extend to friend advice too because it can be really difficult to navigate healthy friendships (or maybe I'm just socially inept). I'm so happy to hear that you did it and feel good about it. I guess people have different needs, but we don't have to cater to all of them. Maybe some of your friends need someone who is going to be super available and if that's not you anymore then that's not your problem.

No. 252670

>>252538
That's very tough nonna, I'm so sorry. I am sure that other anons will disagree but if you really are sure that he has changed, and you guys have a close and communicative relationship, then I think you could get past this together. Maybe try broaching the idea of accessing/monitoring his computer for example so you can regain trust again over time? If he has nothing to hide and is truly sorry he would probably permit it. Ik other anons might disagree but I hope you're ok, give yourself time to adjust to this shock and if you really trust in his change and want to keep fighting for the relationship I think it can be done. I think the fact that he told you, and if he seems truly torn up about it, suggests a commitment to closeness with you rather than hiding the secret for longer.

No. 252688

I have to agree with >>252670. Not to be a moid apologist, but teenagers are horny retards, and teen boys even more so. It doesn't mean he's suddenly a full on pedo, but you should of course keep an eye on him.

No. 252704

>>252538
He's a hebephile, only a hebephile would go after and sext with underages girls, taking the legal risk because it's a paraphilia he has to satisfy. He'll lose interest in you and attempt cheat on you with younger girls if you keep dating him because by going along this, you will accept his attraction to underaged girls being valid. It's up to you but you should realize that no man who sexts with a child is a good person and that he's probably going to cheat on you or consume cp in the future. It's even worse if you have kids.

No. 252756

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>>252454
>i just send nudes to my bf and he doesnt watch porn.

No. 252760

>>252441
>Oh he doesn't want an open relationship at all, he's very jealous (while I'm not at ALL). I'm the degenerate one here, though I'm trying to get rid of that desire but it is quite hard. Idk maybe I'm a porn brain melted coomer too.
for the sake of yourself and any future partners (because i'm hoping the creatura you're with right now is going to be an ex soon… right?): don't. the feelings and attractions towards other people won't just go away, you will end up feeling trapped and unfulfilled and it will be no one's fault but your own for trying to suppress yourself and not communicating your needs. worst case scenario, you will end up breaking the trust of someone you love. absolutely do not do this with him because a jealous person and a troon is not only someone you should already not be dating but also the worst person to try and be open with (you know the jokes about troon disaster polycules). but this kind of thing is totally normal these days and a lot more common than most people suspect. don't let the fear of looking silly on lolcow dictate how you live your life, you only get one.

No. 252778

>>252454
Don't do this. My girl friends show me all the nudes guys send them, we discuss them and such and men do much worse things. The nudes are 4chan are all their ex gfs and they always share those with friends. You're putting yourself in danger.

No. 252780

>>252538
Sorry nonna but thats gross and id break up. Im not saying this because its trendy to tell others to break up but when i was 18 i knew not to mess around with anyone younger. A 14 years old IS A CHILD! Even when i was 18 i felt weird taking to 16 years olds!!
This is NOT okay

No. 252782

>>252778
I never show my face so no worries nonny. Id never send nudes with my face in it as i find it too risky. Thank you for worrying about me nonna
>>252756
I prefer him masturbate to me. We both dont watch porn.We also talk dirty on the phone all the time.
>>252455
How do you know? Did he tell you? Wtf

No. 252794

>>252454
Imagine being this trashy

No. 252798

>>252778
Random men or their boyfriends? One seems more grim than the other

No. 252835

>>252780
Thank you, I’m surprised by anons defending this guy. Is the fact he’s “sweet” enough to override the fact he’s a pedo? There are millions of sweet guys in the world who wouldn’t have attempted to groom a child. Have some standards. The fact he’s waited so long to tell op about this knowing how it would (rightfully) affect her now that she’s years into the relationship and emotionally invested in him is selfish and manipulative. I’d also guess he’s hiding some nasty stuff on his phone or computer. Also
>20s
>first relationship
Very very few people stay with the same partner they met in their teens/20s throughout life just because we change so much as people during this time. Op also has no experience with other men and while I’m not saying she needs to date 50 guys to know what she wants, there is a certain level of don’t give a fuck-ness one obtains once you break yourself of the idea that there is only one person who is right for you and realize you don’t have to settle for the first man who ever showed interest, especially when he’s done something this gross. Sometimes I forget how young this site skews.

No. 252840

>>252429
This is an amazing and thoughtful post that made me rethink my view of relationships to something healthier. Thank you.

No. 252848

>>252429
this post just pissed me off and makes me not want to date at all tbh

No. 252852

>>252835
There was only 1 anon saying something in favour of the moid.

No. 252853

>>252429
Everyone cheats? Uh, no.

No. 252870

>>252852
There were 2 making excuses for him actually but I did miss another anon speaking against him. A guy like this should've immediately been shouted down though, that behavior is disgusting. No woman should ever have or want to say "the love of my life kept the fact he's a pedophile from me for years but I swear he's changed!"

No. 252876

>>252794
Stfu moid

No. 252877

>>252835
Im >>252780 and im surprised anons defended the moid.

No. 252901

Any unemployed nonnies with a boyfriend here who can give me advice on how to stop feeling unworthy of a relationship because I currently don't have a job? I'm in uni and used to work part-time in an office up until two momths ago because I got burnt out and wasn't properly focusing on my studies but I'm worried it's gonna be a problem for any future love interest because I'm in my mid twenties? I'm current living off of my savings and parents who've agreed to help me out for as long as I need it.

No. 252905

>>252835
LC was posted to an incel german imageboard and pol today so we have a lot of male pedos here. Don't trust them, they're definitely males because no woman would support a man who's clearly been fantasizing about and possibly planning on sexually assaulting a child. You can't even be sure if he has had sex with teens but didn't tell you.

No. 252911

>>252904
I was gonna reply to that nonny as well, but if she's delusional enough to believe he doesn't watch porn, she won't listen to us kek. I don't believe ANY woman that says her moid doesn't watch porn. I just don't. Even the nicest, most unsuspecting moids watch porn.

No. 252915

>>252907
NTA but I believe it's not a normal nonnie. The pedopanderers made posts that are minutes apart too.

No. 252916

>>252915
my point is that there are absolutely women who would defend pedo moids and i absolutely believe that some farmers on here are deranged enough for that, even if those specific posts were not coming from them

No. 252919

>>252916
NTA but there has been shotafags here who got banned for that, those two posters in this thread didnt get redtexted tho.

No. 252927

>>252538
id hate to play devils advocate but both 14 and 18 are high school ages. Its gross af but even if he wasn't looking for minors on social media he still would have found one in high school.
17-18 year old boys dating 14-15 year old freshmen in HS is very common. Its wrong but it is very common and normalized.

Now if he was over the age of 18 like 19-20 then it would have been really creepy.

No. 252932

>>252927
What is the difference between 19 and 18? I don't really even get your point behind saying that it's normalized, it doesn't mean that it's alright or that anon should forgive him.

No. 252940

>>252932
because 19 is a college age and men over that age actively search for minors and prey on them.
Meanwhile a 18 year old senior could just meet a freshman in high school.

Her boyfriend is obviously on the creeper list though since he was actively searching for a minor, its not like he met her randomly in school and that's wrong, not defending that.

No. 252946

>>252940
>Meanwhile a 18 year old senior could just meet a freshman in high school.
But he didn't, anon it would still be disgusting if he did, but that isn't related to the actual situation. Just because he's a year younger than 19 doesn't make it less creepy. Wtf was the point of saying any of that if you're not trying to defend him and you know that they
met on social media?

No. 252949

>>252942
>>Wtf was the point of saying any of that if you're not trying to defend him?
i dont know im only running on 2 hours of sleep.

I just find it weird how society sees 18 year olds dating 14ys in high school as normal but if they do it through social media its seen as wrong. Both can be wrong/right and im tired of this fake virtue signaling.

Its so easy to be fake woke on the internet but i know for a fact people like you are the same ones to be silent of males dating minors in real life.
Literally had a 21 ys old guy try to groom me when i was in high school when i was 15 and other similar aged girls and everyone was okay with it and silent including the sjw in our class who i bet talks about how GROSS men dating minors is on the internet.
One of his pickme girlfriends even tried to harm me for him trying to groom me and every bitch was on her side.

No. 252950

>>252940
>Meanwhile a 18 year old senior could just meet a freshman in high school.

And? There's are differences in maturity between a 14 and an 18 year old.

No. 252952

>>252949
>i know for a fact people like you are the same ones to be silent of males dating minors in real life
Whatever makes you feel better anon. You're the one who wanted to play devils advocate and defend him.

No. 252954

>>252952
>>devils advocate
yeah because most people see 14-15 and 17-18 as normal in real life and most of those people interact with each other in school. I only see this fake virtue signaling on the int.

No. 252962

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>>252927
idk man, I got groomed by a senior when I was 14 in HS and there was definitely a difference in the power dynamic between us. He also pushed sex on me right off the bat, whereas my friends with 14 y/o bfs went slow and steady. I regret not being aware of the grooming, but yeah… I was just 14.

No. 252964

>>252962
how did you get groomed lmao you didnt even go to the same classes. You chose to date a 18yo and are surprised he wanted sex??(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 252969

>>252954
It's not virtue signaling to say that men shouldn't sext 14 year olds. I don't even understand why you want to play devil's advocate for that if you say you almost got groomed.

No. 252972

>>252964
>>252963
>>252971
You have to be 18 to post on this site + your 25 year old groomer bf will leave you the second you're legal

No. 252976

Nonas I need advice or just to vent.

My partner's best friend feels super clingy with her. I see my gf once a week because we have different schedules but when I'm not around she's always hanging out with her. If we might be able to hang outside of our day off, my gf will start planning then cancel later because her best friend wanted to hang out or threatened to kms.

When I explained this to my gf she tried to reassure me saying that I'm her priority but it never feels like it. Wtf do I do??

No. 252977

>>252976
There's two possibilities here either she's an absolute mental midget who does whatever someone says just because they say they're gonna kill themselves or she's cheating on you/wants to. Sorry but your gf should never cancel plans with you for her ~best friend~, cancelling plans is rude enough already

No. 252978

>>252977

Her best friend is straight so I don't think it's cheating… But she'll say "Oh! Let's hang out tonight" then like an hour before say "Oh but best friend got left home alone so I'm going over" then not even apologize. I have zero expectations for going on dates or anything past the one day now

No. 252981

>>252978
Definitely not prioritizing you.. She doesn't seem ready for a relationship if someone else is consistently more important than you. Not really sure what you can do other than either accept you will always come second to her, or find a new partner.

No. 253038

https://twitter.com/obversers/status/1509643838670966793
how common is the mindset described in this tweet and its replies?(this is an imageboard. post screencaps)

No. 253039

>>252978
Well she's blatantly lying about prioritizing you. Is her friend stringing her along with manipulative kms threats? Does your gf perhaps not know how to handle someone who regularly threatens with suicide?

No. 253041

>>253038
Where did you find this autistic incel shit? Also its much easier for a men to get a girlfriend thats facts. Women date men who are unwashed, stinky, broke, ugly, abusive, etc all the fucking time meanwhile men want a woman thats perfect, shaved all the time, curvy but thin, they basically want a bangmaid slave that looks like an ig thot.

No. 253042

>>252976
You should be your partner’s priority. YOU should be the #1 best friend. Its all about boundaries. Please talk to your gf

No. 253043

>>252904
He doesnt watch porn anon. Stop thinking every moid is pornsick. Some males dont watch porn but have fun thinking every male on earth does kek
I send nudes because we are in a relationship and we turn each others on

No. 253044

>>252904
Also who said im sending nudes so he doesnt watch porn? Thats retarded You can laugh all you want but some of us dont date pornsick retards.

No. 253045

>>252954
Youre really autistic anon. An 18 years old is an adult and even then theyre much more mature than a fucking 14 years old. A 14 years old is a fucking child. When i was 18 i still saw people younger than me as children. What the fuck does he have in common? Stop defending this pedo shit. I can understand a 18 years old dating a 17 years old but 14?? Wtf?

No. 253046

>>252964
>YOU CHOSE TO GO ON A DATE SO IT MEANS YOU AGREED FOR SEX
Moid logic. Please leave

No. 253048

>>253043
nta, I sorta agree with you on the porn part but anon is right about being careful with sending nudes. Moids sharing their ex's nudes or even current gf's in their social circles or posting them online or using them to blackmail them to get revenge or keeping them to jack off to even after they've broken up is not a rarity. It's happened to too many women who honest to god thought their men were to be trusted with their nudes, it's shockingly common. In my opinion women should never send nudes no matter how much they think their partners can be trusted. But since he's already in possesion of your nudes I guess it doesn't matter in your case.

No. 253050

>>253048
youre right nonny it happens. I never show my face in them or a background where someone would recognize me in . I just dont want anons to think i send nudes so he doesnt watch porn because that logic is retarded.
hes not a pornsick coomer and i vetted all his social media. Hes the only guy that actually respects me and so far he treats me well. If i wasnt dating him i wouldnt be in any relationships because moids are hopeless

No. 253053

>>252927
>>252940
>>252949
>>252954
>>252964
Ok why the fuck is the pedobandering male poster still not fucking banned? First they defwnded ops ADULT bf exchanging CP with a minor and swxting her by saying he was a horny teen. Now they're saying adult men having sex with teens isn't rape because they asked for it but going on dates. I'm sorry by jannies are retarded if they think these posts are made by actual women.

No. 253060

>>253053
Im hoping its moids and not actual women saying this shit

No. 253065

>>253060
Me too and I'm actually sure because this alone >>252964 is pedo moid logic men use when they're accused of trying to groom girls.
Jannies won't ban them though, even though they're obviously males. I don't get it but jannies tend to not ban male posters until things go out of hand and the whole thread derails.

No. 253070

>>252964
she was 14, kill yourself

No. 253071

>>252964
>How did an adult try to force sex upon you as a child?
Use your brain moid

No. 253084

>>253070
>>253071
Why don't jannies ban these moids? I sometimes feel like they're biased, these pedo infighting has been going on for 2 days at this point.

No. 253086

>>253084
There's too few jannies.

No. 253088

>>253086
I don't think so. Jannies did the same in /ot/ just now, banned the anon who said it was creepy to defend cobain's sexual desires towards infants while they didn't ban the anon who defended him wanting to assault kids.

No. 253098

>>253039

It feels like it!! Like I understand her best friend doesn't have many people but she has her own man's?? If they even get into a small argument it's 'Ohhh I'm going to kms' like girl??

Or last time it was 'Hey gf I want to spend more time together do you think you could not hang out
with her tonight'

'Wow your gf has you on a leash…'

No. 253102

>>253088
/ot/ jannies aren't necerssarily also /g/ jannies afaik

No. 253107

>>253098
You really should have a conversation with your gf about the behaviour of her friend (without that friend present). She's manipulative and a negative influence on your relationship. You probably know but someone who regularly threatens with suicide isn't suicidal, they're just attention seekers. She's manipulating your gf for her time and attention. I know it's probably going to be hard to have that conversation because she (the friend) will probably go "She's just trying to break our friendship, She's jealous of our friendship" etc. afterwards but you should really do it before she drives a wedge between you two.

No. 253171

>I'm 30
>engaged to fiancé who is 45 but looks young
>we bought a house recently and wanted to look into having a family
>we tried for awhile but nothing happened, as ditto with his ex wife who got immediately knocked up by someone else post divorce
>he tried to say it might be me
>I've had abortions in the past, so no, but I didn't mention that
>insist he go get tested because it's easier for men anyway
>he seemed irritated at the prospect but finally goes
>confirmed infertile as fuck and zero sperm
>he's angry-afraid and thinks I'll leave him
>he might have klinefelter syndrome which explains a lot
>says he's ok if we go sperm donor route
I don't know how to feel about this. Honestly I wouldn't leave him for any physical reasons but I think he's really immature and this situation is one of many that highlights that. I mean in the sense that he's 45 years old and doesn't seem to have taken much ownership of his life in general.
He didn't even know he was colorblind until he met me. I innocently discovered it while watching YT with him and confirmed with a color test. His diet is shit. He makes excuses when it comes to exercise. Sure he's not fat-fat but he isn't in shape either and evidently has health issues that he'd rather avoid. He acts like a baby about being told he's not perfect instead of feeling relief for finally having an answer and adapting his lifestyle accordingly.

He spends frivilously then complains to me about money. I make more money than he does and yet he does nothing to try to earn more himself because he knows he would have to work more like I do. He constantly wants me to give him asspats for slaving at retail when he has two degrees he doesn't use. When I suggest he apply for other work if not for shits and giggles to see what he could get, he finds a reason why it wouldn't be a good fit. He only wants to be a writer–which he has no portfolio nor marketing exp for in a STEM-dominated area–but even then he barely writes even as a hobby. He isn't realistic about it. He doesn't even seem to feel remotely ashamed that he makes so little money. He's very stubborn.

He's lazy. He'll do housework but most of the time I have to ask. Most times things are half-assed. He acts more tired than me and more pressed even though I work more hours and sleep less than he does. Even having a child with him makes me nervous because he does the bare minimum for our puppy and doesn't like to be inconvenienced or bothered by mild pet antics. I know if I had a baby with him as things are now, I'd be doing it alone.

He's paranoid of every man I'm around and hints about them wanting me and cheating. He's obsessed with me in every facet. He clings to me whenever I'm home while barely giving me any personal space, and gets hurt if I don't give affection. Not the best sex either, which I now hope is explained by the possible genetic condition, but at least he's willing to play a toy on me and he doesn't ask me for anything so there's that.

I really hope he gets a klinefelter diagnosis. If hormonal therapy can help and maybe address some of these issues that I perceive as immaturity, then I think he deserves that chance.
Apparently men with klinefelter tend to be low energy, sensitive, chubby, and have mental illnesses like depression, adhd, and anxiety. He has other symptoms that match. I really do believe he has it.
If not, then I fear the worst for our relationship.
It would read to me like he's well aware that he is being a drag, but rather than try to get on my level, hopes that I won't leave. Right now I can't leave because of financial reasons, but if I can pay down my debt and earn more, then there's little doubt I'd want to leave if he cannot change.

No. 253173

>>253171
no offense but he sounds legit retarded. he's 45 and still this retarded, useless around the house, spends like shit. you're 15 years younger than him having to mother his aging ass. is there any equity in the house or what? what are you gaining from this situation with this guy? i would dip personally and do not do not get married. your name is already on the deed, what more do you need? a 30k divorce and a nightmare?

No. 253174

>>253171
Should've been wiser than to date a baby 15 years your senior

No. 253175

>>253171
You already know what to do. Don't let the sunk cost sink you further. A diagnosis isn't going to change anything. It just gives his retardation a name. The retardation will still be there. And for fuck's sake don't bring a child into this mess. How do you think a child will turn out with him as its role model even if his dead sperm aren't involved?

No. 253177

>>253171
That’s very considerate of you nonnie, you must love him very much.
As someone that dealt with something similar, low energy, depression, brain fog brought on by illness it can be very difficult to recognize that medication/treatment is the first step. Hopefully with medical intervention his energy will pick up and along with it his mood but he will need to make lifestyle changes. Eating better, exercising. Naming the problem is the first step but he will still potentially need years to fully recover and reach his best health.
Plenty of others have given you the sunk cost line but it is ultimately up to you as you are the one living the situation. What will you do if 5 years from now he’s on medication but made no attempts to change anything else? What is it you hope to get from him recovering somewhat, is it just a pregnancy or a more present and participatory partner? Can you have these discussions with him, just facts about how he sees himself stepping up and improving?
Whatever you choose nonnie I hope you achieve happiness.

No. 253178

>>253173
If it's something medical then I figure it's good practice as a decent human to give him a chance with medication, you know? I do care about and love him.
Klinefelter can impact cognition apparently too. If he can get some hormonal therapy he may change. I know I changed when I got the right meds, and men used me up and down then abandoned me when I didn't have my shit together.
Besides, it's not like it would be in my best interest to leave as I have a financially fucked situation right now and I'm lucky to have the house and not rent. Unless some rich hunk knocks down my door offering me the world kek.
We're not married and don't even have a date set, it's not like a trial period will put me out like the nuclear option of trying to end this relationship and dissolving assets would. It's complicated and wouldn't be easy.

>>253175
>what about your child?
I don't know how to feel about this argument. I had awful parents. Father was outright abusive and abandoned me on the side of the street when I was a preteen. My mother parentified me and was a narcissist. Never had a stable homelife or schedule with a single mom who remarried and moved a lot.
All things considered, I think I turned out okay and would be pretty confident I could raise a child better than how I was raised less the neuroses and straight up neglect. It's not a bad household, I just think my partner needs to be more involved and less whiny about it.
The fact that his sperm is dead gives me complete control on the stipulations of if and when we have a child which is even better if it turns out he can't meet me in the middle.

No. 253179

>>253177
I appreciate this post anon, I've taken it to heart. It's tough but I have to have those difficult conversations. Thank you for being understanding.

No. 253180

>>253175
This but most of all: do you really think it's a good idea to have a child with a man who already won't do basic household chores unless you ask and then still half-asses them? He won't help you with raising the child, make no mistake; he won't change. You'll be a full-time working married mother who also does the household and all of the raising of the kids on your own. Don't be like my mom who thought my father would mature once he got his first child, he didn't and she raised basically two kids and a manbaby on her own. And these stories are frightingly common.

No. 253184

>>253180
Do any men really master domestic chores? I've yet to hear of a relationship where this is the dynamic, usually it is a woman driving the household even if there's a honeymoon period where the man is on his best behavior or steps up temporarily. At best I've just heard of men who aren't as messy to warrant being picked and cleaned up after much. Or they're stay at home dads, but then you've gotta square away that they don't have an income. Which is a big deal as women are still paid less and hit a glass ceiling compared to male earners, although then we get situations like OP where they just don't apply themselves.
This is still culturally common and it's kind of unfair to act like women just haven't searched hard enough for the men who do.

No. 253185

>>253177
girl, please. while it's entirely possible these are the things bogging him down, literally almost every male expects a bangmaid mommy by default. their retardation is usually not a result of a disorder of sexual development. like fine if she wants to wait it out for meds but i HIGHLY doubt this is down to anything but that men are taught they do not need to accept responsibility or take care of their own lives. our hormonal situation and the way it ineracts with depression and the trauma so women go through is very complicated and rarely comparable to the way men are. it's entirely possible, but he's 45 and spends like shit. that's not uncommon for 45 year old men by any means. in fact, i'd say it's standard male retardation - it's just unacceptable

No. 253186

>>253184
she didn't say she needs to search harder. she said it's not a good idea to have a kid with a man who hasn't mastered it. they ARE rare but usually a lot of women aren't having kids with guys ALSO 15 years older. this is like a lose-lose-lose-lose. most women are struggling with POS husbands who do nothing but expect everything who are 1-2 years around their age. it's a struggle all around and that's why is retarded to have kids with men point blank period but 15 years and that same shit too? imo… no thanks.

No. 253189

>>253184
>it's kind of unfair to act like women just haven't searched hard enough for the men who do.
But anon I didn't say or imply this about anon's case whatsoever? All I'm saying is that anon should ask herself if that's a good idea and if she wants that for herself because she'll very likely be the exhausted overworked mom without sufficient help from her partner. Does she really want that for herself?

No. 253190

>>253184
NTA but probably very few but I agree. And even if some clean, they do it very sloppily.
My mom lucked out, cause my dad can cook, clean and even sew but probably only because his mom taught him to kek.

No. 253191

>>253189
nta but i agree with you and i didn't perceive what you said to say that when i read it either. it's a losing game to have a kid with a male to me all around given how men are. she'll also have to be wiping his ass sooner than the younger men too in addition to the baby's. unless he's got money… i'm not getting it? where is the upside? a guy also going for a girl 15 years younger than him is already sus

not that it matters but i've personally known men with klinefelters and they were literally no less retarded or unmotivated than the average male. maybe they were just an exception but to be male is to be taught to that they have the luxury and privilege of being willfully incompetent

No. 253192

>>253186
>>253189
But that's what you're implying.
Don't have a relationship or a kid with a man who can't master cleaning, okay, but which do?
Following logic she should be perma single and never breed with men or else it's her fault because there's no real alternative to get what she wants any other way.
Unless you have a database on amazing men who want to pamper women and clean their homes who are miraculously still single in their 30s, what good does saying the obvious serve here? She sounds aware.

No. 253193

>>253192
to me? don't have a kid with a man because in this society you lose, and you lose hard. and this one doesn't even have any money for spousal support or child support, and he's 15 years older than her, and she has to teach him literally everything he needs, and now they need to go through the extra expense of fertility treatment?

in my perfect world? don't have kids as a woman with a dude but if you absolutely must, try your best to maximize the upsides i guess. there are literally none here that i can tell other than that he possibly(?) "loves" her (yet he's also going after someone 15 years younger than him - the capacity for love on such a male is even more sus than the average)

No. 253194

>>253192
>Following logic she should be perma single and never breed with men or else it's her fault because there's no real alternative to get what she wants any other way.
i just read up on this discussion and honestly, i don't think women should feel like staying single is the worst possible thing that they could endure and that they should find a guy to marry if it's the last thing they do. yes, being "perma single and never breeding with men" is a lot better than being in a relationship with a guy 15 years your senior who can't do basic household chores and will have to be taken care of 24/7 in a couple decades. If you want a child and haven't found the one, you can be a single mother too. there's so many other options so i don't really agree with the narrative that staying single as opposed to staying in a failing relationship is terrible and should be avoided at all costs.

No. 253197

>>253194
>staying single is the worst possible thing that they could endure and that they should find a guy to marry if it's the last thing they do
I don't think this is good advice considering OP admitted to financial debt and hardship. It doesn't sound like an emotional co-dependence issue as much as a circumstancial one. You'd be surprised what women endure with men if there are high stakes, and being financially insecure as a woman is a completely shit experience. Even if he bring in a small income and does what little he does around the house, perhaps to OP she needs it.
Single motherhood has its own challenges and should really only be reserved for successful women who pull high income on their own, but even with the resources and finances it's exhausting and lonely and society never looks upon single mothers well.

No. 253199

>>253185
Yes and you just said all that. Not everyone responds well to being bludgeoned over the head with reality. Plenty of other nonnies here took the other position and I don’t necessarily disagree with it but I think that op nonnies feelings deserve consideration and their compassion for their partner deserves to be met with a similar level of compassion in response.
In no way do I think meds will solve things if it is a case of typical male entitlement, that’s why I encourage nonnie to have a conversation to lay out expectations from both parties and actionable things he can do to demonstrate he’s making an attempt not to languish.
At the end of the day we’re randos on an image board, nonnie is the one that has to live with her choices.

No. 253200

>>253184
My nigel makes the bed, cooks, cleans, does the laundry for us (he does it correctly as well), prepares my lunch and breakfast for the days I work, and always brings me drinks and food so I don't need to get up and go get it myself. We both go grocery shopping, but that's a bonding activity that we enjoy on the new weekends so I don't count it as a chore and we also usually get lunch somewhere after. Don't settle for less, anons.

No. 253201

>>253197
if you're not independently sufficient, dinkdom is the safest bet always. sorry about it, anons. bringing kids into a financially insecure situation or shaky situation is never good. a dual income household (friends or partner) is always going to be the smartest bet for women financially who are especially concerned about their longterm financial stability if they can't hack it on their own.

No. 253203

>>253200
Cool, report back in 5 years.

>>253201
Agreed, which is why I think anons presuming OP has the option is kinda funny. Women with fuck off money don't bother with men.

No. 253207

>>253203
Encouraging women to accept bad behavior and laziness from their male partners because they won't find better is peak moid rhetoric. I'm sorry if you're actually a woman and have been successfully convinced of this, but men who can and will do chores properly and without complaint are plentiful. And you don't need to be a supermodel to get them. All women should have standards even if they don't work, which she does.

No. 253209

>>253203
>Women with fuck off money don't bother with men.
that's not true. plenty of women with money fuck up their lives with men and completely ruin their shit because society makes them feel incomplete. i'm not sure which part you agreed with in my post but she makes no sense. she can't hack it alone but she also wants to bring kids into the mix. like… how does that make sense? she's not financially stable and she's mothering a fiscally irresponsible tard. her best bet is to keep everything the way it is at best - no kids. she's also likely going to be the one forking out the cash to get impregnated with another man's sperm while she cleans the house, cares for the kid, and does the breadwinning, i mean, it's all ludicrous for this particular moid. DINKdom is the furthest a woman should go with men, no kids.

No. 253210

>>253207
>Encouraging women to accept bad behavior and laziness from their male partners because they won't find better is peak moid rhetoric.
Well it's a good thing nobody encouraged OP to accept anything and we can put this strawman to rest right now.

No. 253214

>>253203
>Cool, report back in 5 years.
I'm nta but wow, the bar is in hell. So many women really believe it's worth staying with a manchild incapable of common housekeeping tasks. I was married for almost 10 years and my ex managed to pick up after himself, wash dishes, vacuum, and wipe his own ass the whole time without me having to mommy him. My male relatives all manage these tasks just fine whether they are living alone or with a woman. In fact some of them I'd consider neat freaks and are even tidier than the partners they've had. OP is pathetic to stay with such an incompetent moron and I grieve for the child she'll have if she stays, yet another kid brought up with the toxic dynamic where mom does literally everything and dad takes no responsibility ever. If it's a male he will grow up just like dad and become a parasite, if it's a girl she'll grow up believing women taking up every burden is normal while a man leeches off of her. You can try to teach them better all you want, but what they'll actually absorb is what they see playing out around them.
>I really hope he gets a klinefelter diagnosis.
>Apparently men with klinefelter tend to be low energy, sensitive, chubby, and have mental illnesses like depression, adhd, and anxiety.
Oh is that all? Yeah, clearly someone who deserves to be a parent. If you want to subject yourself to an idiot like this for the rest of your life go right ahead, but you are trash if you decide to raise a child in this environment.

No. 253216

>>253209
>she can't hack it alone but she also wants to bring kids into the mix
How does this not make sense for you? Plenty of women have kids who don't make money.
Literally what are stay at home moms. Literally what are moms in countries with no structured labor.
Literally what are single moms on welfare.
The majority of mothers on this planet would have been disqualified as most women can't financially hack it on their own, whether through their fault or not.
Dumb argument. And irrelevant as it sounds like OP intends to work on it and is able to control when she does.

No. 253218

>>253216
yes, those are all what we with foresight tend to call "bad ideas" and "not suggestible". great advice, anon. really great.

No. 253220

>>253216
>Plenty of women have kids who don't make money.
That… doesn't mean they should've. You really have no empathy or consideration for children.

No. 253221

>>253214
>REEEE THE BAR IS IN HELL
>putting "wiped own ass" on list of responsibilities
Hm, pot meet kettle. Washing dishes and running a vacuum are basic ass chores too. Takes more than that to keep a household clean but it seems you can't even admit to yourself that your own divorced scrote didn't do shit in comparison to what most women do.
Why can't you just admit that your Nigels, who are for all intents and purposes better than most men, at the end of the day will never bother with the same responsibilities and expectations of women because it's simply not demanded of them? Evidenced by all the sperging at OP for wanting to compromise with hers because somehow the man not pulling his own weight has still got to be her fault in some way.
>My male relatives all manage these tasks just fine whether they are living alone or with a woman.
Unless you personally interrogate their wives and gfs shut the fuck up lmao, you have no idea what happens behind closed doors even if your precious Nigels put up a good front.
>yet another kid brought up with the toxic dynamic where mom does literally everything and dad takes no responsibility ever
Yeah pity the kid that gets raised by a woman with great work ethic and compassionate against her own good. You don't sound like the toxic one with bad takes AT ALL.

You sound like a bitch and I hope you're sterilized.

No. 253223

>>253218
>>253220
I'm sorry your mothers were broke scrote enablers but you know not everyone who grew up in rough circumstances regrets being born and turns out bad in adulthood. Just sayin.

No. 253230

Why is this thread always infighting central? Are moids dropping by to stir shit?

No. 253233

>>253221
I mean, I noted basic tasks because that's the sort of thing you were talking about. He did far more than that but I didn't want to write an essay because I figured you could extrapolate from there, but clearly you lack any level of critical reasoning. You're also attributing REEE rage to me when I'm just mildly disgusted by the fact you're a messy scrote apologist.
>Unless you personally interrogate their wives and gfs shut the fuck up lmao, you have no idea what happens behind closed doors even if your precious Nigels put up a good front.
I visit their homes when they're single and they are clean and well maintained? Why are you acting like this is impossibly difficult for the average adult to do?
>Yeah pity the kid that gets raised by a woman with great work ethic and compassionate against her own good.
No, she would be selfish if she chooses to raise a child with a worthless scrote who will influence their image of what a man should do and be in a relationship. It's absolutely delusional to think this has no affect on kids. Sure, they might eventually turn into well adjusted adults, but if you care about a child as more than an accessory you would not choose to knowingly bring them into a shitty situation with a depressed, unhealthy, incompetent, useless parent.
>You sound like a bitch and I hope you're sterilized.
All this rage you have really implies this is personal for you. Sad.

No. 253235

>>253230
Yes. Moids like to camp out in this thread caping for their fellow scrotes while they wait for nonas to post their bodies in the kibbe and plastic surgery threads.

No. 253244

>>253223
my mother made money independently and tried to keep my father away after they broke up and raise me alone, which would've prevented the abuse i suffered as a child at his hands IF THE COURTS didn't insist that he was to be involved because the state mandates payment unless there is a stepfather to assign away rights, which we did not have. you don't know how the court system actually works. many children face the same fate or worse. precisely how is my advocating for not having children because the courts use the father or men as a failsafe to lessen the reliance on welfare, which puts the child at risk, scrote-enabling? these women out here having children without money are not having them at fertility clinics so there's no father, btw.

the courts want parental rights to exist as much as possible and you don't get that, clearly. unless these women are going in knowing they will never, ever establish paternal rights for these kids, these kids are going to be in for a tough time, even if the mother has money. the best way is to never, ever get involved with them, but 99.9% of women who are having kids without their own complete established financial stability are establishing paternal rights for their children and it is extremely difficult to get rid of these men and they will fight for more "time" with these kids to not pay, wherein the child is abused or neglected.

No. 253246

>>253233
I don't care about this argument at all but you are really insistent that the behavior of men is somehow women's fault, and if we do what we have to do to work with their selfishness to get what we need out of life then that somehow makes us as selfish as they are.
Well, you're wrong.
But thanks for giving men more ammo to use against us. I guess if our adult partners don't step up then it's not on them to be better, but is actually our responsibility for having given them the chance which makes us equally culpable somehow. And if we don't like it then we have the wonderful option of being alone and jaded which of course is such a happy ending /s
For fuck's sake you're acting like farmers here are encouraging women to have children with pedophiles and addicts. The guy is just lazy like the majority of men and it might even be due to a medical condition for all we know. She's an adult who can judge what she's getting into for herself if she wants to deal with it or not.
Quit your bullshit, you're typing like shit has already happened and you have no clue.



Ever notice how men never get blamed for their partner choices?
Like if a woman is heaven forbid one of the fabled golddiggers, society never says to those men "Well ya shoulda chose better," nah, they're always rushing to lick the wounds and coddle. Only men get afforded the luxury of empathy while women are expected to suffer consequences if they failed to map out 4D chess games with moids.

No. 253248

>>253246
bizarre you're trying to come at this from a purportedly feminist angle when you told her she's "a bitch" and that you hope she's sterilized. you're insane if you think you're fighting some good feminist fight. men are incompetent tards because they're taught to be. women should expect more and until they have more (for both their own security and the best situation for the child) they absolutely shouldn't bring children into the equation, yes, that would be selfish of either parent.

No. 253249

>>253248
Feminists can still think you're a bitch and hope you don't have kids.
Bizarre to think feminists owe it you to be lovely when you say insensitive and cruel shit just because of your gender.
I can dislike men and also dislike you at the same time. Did you think you had something here?
Go scree on a male imageboard about selfishness if it's so important to you…oh wait, they don't care.

No. 253250

>>253248
>spends hours browbeating someone else's situation when they haven't even done anything wrong
>retaliation comes
>"t-t-that's not feminist of you.."
Male troll.

No. 253260

>>253246
Wanting to raise children in a stable, healthy environment makes anyone arguing against your inane logic bitchy and means they shouldn't have kids? Right. You keep ignoring the fact that having a negative male influence in kids' lives is worse than having none at all. He's not just lazy, he's unhealthy, depressive, aggressive towards op when he isn't immediately presumed to be right, a poor spender who contributes little monetarily and likely even limits their savings, obsessive and blames her for thinking about cheating when she hasn't done any such thing. How many red flags do you need? She even states
>Even having a child with him makes me nervous because he does the bare minimum for our puppy and doesn't like to be inconvenienced or bothered by mild pet antics. I know if I had a baby with him as things are now, I'd be doing it alone.
She knows this is bad idea. And if she acknowledges being a "co-parent" with him would mean essentially doing it alone, she has no reasons but selfish ones to not actually go solo so a child isn't subjected to all his bullshit. Maybe she'd make a great parent! But the guy clearly wouldn't, and yes, that does make her foolish if she keeps him in the picture. No one is blaming women who were sold as brides and forced to have children, this is a grown woman presumably in a first world country making a decision to willfully bring a child into an environment with a man who will be a shitty role model and they will internalize that scenario. I cannot believe you consider yourself a feminist when you're advocating that since few men are competent adults we just have to settle and raise children with the shitty ones. Feminism does not mean every decision every woman makes is valid.

No. 253263

>>253260
fucking thank you.

No. 253265

>>253053
im not >>252964 you braindead moron.
>>252954 was the last thing i posted.

No. 253266

>>253265
literally only 2 on that list seem notably male. there is someone that keeps running around screaming that evvvvveryone is a pedopandering moid etc etc, yours definitely didn't, either.

No. 253267

>>253203
Stay pressed. I will always expect a certain standard from men. My nigel does these things because he geniunely loves to serve and was raised properly. My exes also participated in cleaning and the like even though I wasn't even into them. This stuff is the bare minimum. I would volunteer to do some of the chores he does, but the truth is he gets far more enjoyment out of it than me and we've both talked about how he likes servicing people whereas I don't share that joy. I don't expect every scrote to be the way my Nigel is, but I would always expect a bare minimum which includes a person who does not complain and does their fair share of housework and chores. It's disgusting how you excuse the behavior of moids. Men love pleasing and making their mates happy, it's legitimately one of the best feelings they can experience because it strokes their feelings of being a provider. This is why men love being around bratty, demanding women far more than is let on. This is why BPDfags and "bitches" get men, men love having to please women and feeling responsible for their happiness regardless of the reality that happiness is more often than not a choice.

No. 253268

>>253260
>Wanting to raise children in a stable, healthy environment makes anyone arguing against your inane logic bitchy and means they shouldn't have kids?
You're the unhinged dumbfuck talking about made up scenarios at this point, so yes.
Her post reads like someone weighing her options while waiting to see if her scrote gets his shit together with diagnosis and medication. She's employed and has a home. Even better that he's infertile cause she blatantly said she gets to control when they can have a child. She sounds responsible to me yet you're shocked pikachu she wants to try compassion before throwing a relationship she cares about in the trash. What a selfish person!!
What the fuck is unstable about any of that to warrant your bullshit to this degree? She didn't say he was a monster, just that he's lazy and immature which is something that could be improved if there's a discussion and he's willing to change. You're a bitch cause you're overreacting based on an imaginary scenario in your head as if anything has or is guaranteed to happen. You think you're fucking smart but you're actually coming off as underage and obnoxious.
>she has no reasons but selfish ones to not actually go solo so a child isn't subjected to all his bullshit
Nothing has happened yet, retard.
>But the guy clearly wouldn't, and yes, that does make her foolish if she keeps him in the picture.
Sorry where did she say she was keeping him in the picture no matter what happens? Oh right, that didn't happen. You're just tantruming because she isn't ending her relationship right the fuck now just cause you said so.
>No one is blaming women who were sold as brides and forced to have children
Arguments that were never brought up for 500, Alex.
>this is a grown woman presumably in a first world country making a decision to willfully bring a child into an environment with a man who will be a shitty role model and they will internalize that scenario
She hasn't done shit yet omfg.
>I cannot believe you consider yourself a feminist when you're advocating that since few men are competent adults we just have to settle and raise children with the shitty ones.
Literally didn't say this.
You have no argument.
You just want to bitch with your strawmen and fantasy games.
Nice job dragging feminism into this galaxy brained shit, bitch.

No. 253272

>>253267
>Men love pleasing and making their mates happy, it's legitimately one of the best feelings they can experience because it strokes their feelings of being a provider. This is why men love being around bratty, demanding women far more than is let on. This is why BPDfags and "bitches" get men, men love having to please women and feeling responsible for their happiness regardless of the reality that happiness is more often than not a choice.

NTA but kek at this delusion. Men like "difficult" women because they enjoy the toxic roller coaster because it keeps them excited. If men really cared about "making their mates happy" then they wouldn't be known for being incapable of being in a healthy relationship.

No. 253273

Im in a relationship with a serial cheater for 3 years and did some things i regret.
He cheated on me with atleast ten women (that i know of) of those three years that i was with him.
For the first woman i tried to find out where she lives and come and fight her, i also humiliated her on social media so she backed off.
I thought it was just her who he cheated with but last month i decided to check his phone and he had multiple dating apps on it (tinder, bumble, hinge) the majority of his messages was just him being ignored by women and never getting a reply past the ''hi'' stage but i did find some women that he went on dates and had hook-ups with. He was also cheating on me with a woman who was a part of his hobby community.
Im planning on breaking up with him this week, just dont know how to kick him out when that happens since he lives with me.

No. 253275

>>253273
Please also get tested for stds.

No. 253278

>>253273
Ok honey bee, dad is a landlord. This is what you do.
>Print a typed statement like “(pos ex bf) has a non-negotiable move out date of (date). Effective immediately after (date) is not allowed on this property. “
Make him sign it. No matter what.
If he lingers passed that day, call the police.
You will need your locks changed after that date.
DO NOT BEND FOR ANYTHING. Dont let him stay a minute longer. Be clear about the end of communication, and if there are left over bills he has permission to mail them. Not call, not text.
Shit nonna, id be there right now bagging his shit in trash bags, no lie. Fuck him. Its time to grow a spine and stick to it. Hes not messing you around a minute more

No. 253286

>>253268
Holy fuck nta but turn off your conputer unhinged-chan. Imagine getting this upset on an anonymous chinese rice hat weaver forum

No. 253288

>>253273
please tell me you didn't humiliate her on social media just for being the side girl? If she knew ya'll were dating that's one thing but don't blame the other girl for his scummy cheating ass if she had no clue about it. Fuck scrotes.

No. 253291

>>253286
Biiiiitch

No. 253294

>>253288
Based.
>>253286
Damn girl you've been infighting for days, can you tell me topic so I won't have to read, at least?

No. 253298

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Bump. Don’t scroll gore spread to /g/ too

No. 253300

>>253288
Whether she knew or not I'm sure she wasn't humiliated by a rando being angry on the internet that her scrote clowned her.

No. 253302

>>253300
Damn anon that's harsh. I hope OP stops enabling men to fuck 10 women on the side while she attacks them like an obedient lapdog once he's done with them.

No. 253309

>>252538
Here’s my advice:
Tell him you want to see the texts again (don’t get too angry about it in front of him or else he’ll probably delete them), Archive the sexting texts, call the police on him and use the texts as evidence

Some anons here are either males in disguise of actually braindead. 18 year olds are bumbling retards who don’t realise the mental age difference and power dynamic between a kid that’s going to college and a kid that’s just gotten out of middle school. 18 year olds know that sexting a 14 year old is probably illegal.

No. 253311

>>253300
completely irrelevant point. Never blame the girl if she didn't know about your cheating scrote. Men ALWAYS win in those situations because they just loooove watching girls fight over them, it boosts their fragile egos.

My cheating ex bf was a complete and utter douchebag, and when I found out the insta of one of the girls he cheated on me with, I messaged her and she had no idea, we both confronted him and left his ugly ass. 3 years later, we're best friends, and I don't regret ONE SECOND of messaging her. It was 100% worth it. And the ex? Last I heard from mutuals he dated another girl with a 8-10 year age gap, and cheated on her with two other girls. Disgusting.

Once a cheater, always a cheater.

No. 253312

>>253309
They're males, the same ones who infiltrated lesbian thread to make fun of assaulted women for not being goldstars or complain about the lesbians who didn't look fuckable enough by being fully shaved, having a full face of makeup and done hair.

No. 253313

>>253309
Doubleposting

*18 year olds not are bumbling retards

No. 253314

>>253311
Samefag as last anon. You both had confidence and didn't feel the need to compete for male approval, good on you anon. I hope you always come across women like yourself. OP seemed like a very bitter person and although I don't like blaming the woman, letting your man fuck girls on the side and attacking them along with him once he makes you is so wrong on so many levels.

No. 253317

>>253314
no you're totally right, fuck any woman who does that. It's pathetic pickme behaviour we should all try our best to grow out of. But for OP's sake I hope that she was scorned because the side girl knew their relationship, in which case like all bets are off and fuck that girl too.
Imagine wasting your mental energy attacking the side girl while he's fapping to your jealousy and fucking other girls while you do so. It's a sad existence, do you really want to live that life OP? Yes you're gunna break up with him but this is literally your chance to make some amazing girlfriends who share in your bullshit.

No. 253318

Well I guess this isn't relationship advice in the traditional sense in which I complain about my significant other but more so in the familial sense.

I do not like my sister and have decided to cut ties with her. My partner accepts my decision. He knows the hell I went through growing up with her and knows how toxic and two-faced she can be. I have decided it is not worth the trouble to remain bonded to her just because we are siblings. When you grow up into adults, you drift away from your siblings anyway.

However, my family is not happy with my decision and believe "family first" and "blood is thicker than water." But how can I remain connected to someone who has hurt me so much in the past and never apologized or recognized her mistreatment? She abused me emotionally, physically and sexually, and my family DO know the things she has done to me, yet say that I should not hold a grudge and let things slide because when all those things happened, we were immature children and "kids will be kids."

My mom in particular is disheartened that I don't want to be connected to her anymore, that I just want to forget everything and move on with my life, to delete my sister from my life and all the harmful memories (and her current toxic behaviour). It would be so much easier for me to do that, but it's difficult because my family is so hellbent on trying to keep up with appearances that we're not a dysfunctional family, that we are happy and loving. BUT WE ARE NOT because I got ABUSED by her, so I just don't get why they won't let me have my way and erase her from my memory?? They keep insisting that "she's changed!!!" even though it's only been 4 months since I have made my decision to cut her out of my life. Everyone else in my family I have loving relationships with, but her? It's always been abusive.

Anyway, I am about to get married soon. And I don't want to invite her to my wedding, even if it makes me look bad in front of the eyes of my partner's family. He suggested that I invite her anyway because his family is judgemental about family bonds too (just like my family) - but I really don't want to, and I am sick and tired of keeping up with appearances. I wanted a small wedding ceremony with our loved ones but if I do that and invite her, she WILL make a scene and try to sabotage me in front of his family, maybe give a dramatic toast airing out our dysfunctional family's dirty laundry. And I think it would be unbecoming of me to try to defend myself and list out all the things she's done to me because it's personal and private and I am uncomfortable sharing the things she has done to me to other people.

The other option my fiancé suggested is to throw a BIG wedding party and have her hidden away in a corner, distracted by other guests. However, I do not like big parties, and it would just be so awful and horrible that she would influence my wedding dreams like that.

Tl;dr - I don't want to invite my sister to my wedding and my fiance's family may get the wrong idea if I do that. What should I do?
Also, it will be hard to go to family events with my family like Christmases and birthdays because no doubt she will be there. I love my family very much (just not her) and I feel conflicted on whether or not I should skip these if she's there. I don't want to make an ultimatum (either she's there or me), but I feel like I am with my stubborn decision. It makes me feel bad, but I really want to stick to my guns. I feel empowered by it, even if it caused a rift in my family.

No. 253322

>>253318
>"blood is thicker than water"
Tell them the original proverb is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" ie the exact opposite meaning of what it's been bastardized into. You're doing the right thing anon. If your sister was formerly abusive and continues to stress and diminish you, she does not deserve to be in your life. I know it's hard considering you love the rest of your family, but frankly it's shitty of them to be pushing you to make nice with her when your sister is the one who harms you. That's selfish of them but frankly they need to deal with it. Also, the wedding is your special day and you shouldn't have to run the risk of it being derailed because of your sister.
>I don't want to invite her to my wedding, even if it makes me look bad in front of the eyes of my partner's family.
I have no idea why this would make you look bad to them. If someone said my soon-to-be sister-in-law didn't invite her sibling because she's a drama mongerer, I would say great and wouldn't spare another thought about it. I wouldn't even have to know the details as presumably she had good reason. And you do. I hope you stand firm and do what's necessary to lead a mostly peaceful life and enjoy the wedding.

No. 253343

>>253322
It's hard to do something everyone doesn't want you to do, but I know it's good for my own well-being, even if it stresses me out by inflicting pain on others. I think I'll proceed with my decision and hope for the best.

Problem is she is an abusive manipulator and manages to make people believe she is in the right when I know it's just her spinning the narrative to make herself look better. I've been reading Why Does He Do That? and the concepts there apply to her - even though she is a "she" and not a he, lol. Spinning the narrative in her favour, making herself the victim even though she's the perpetrator, controlling her public image, charming/persuasive to others, etc. So I just believe something bad will happen when she inevitably meets his family for the first time.

No one understands the truth because the reasons are very personal and I don't want people to know I was sexually, physically and emotionally abused - it is a very touchy subject and people are judgemental. I'm kept silent and look like I'm the evil one for cutting her off and holding a grudge. I just know that if she comes into contact with my SO's family, she will try to make me look bad and make herself look like a saint, perhaps somehow break us up by convincing his family I'm a bad fit. Maybe I am paranoid, but her past toxic behaviour leads me to believe she never wants me to be happy and will constantly try to undermine me.

I.e., When I finally got into my first relationship, she tried to slut-shame me in front of him, air out dirty laundry by badmouthing me (basically said to him I was a stinky autistic NEET for several years), and even tried seducing him, all the while feigning innocence. She is two-faced, manipulative and enjoys it when I fail at life. So when I finally got into a relationship, she viewed it as a "win" for me and attempted to sabotage it because I was happy for once. I do not know why she does this, but my theory is because she is just naturally a very competitive person and has targeted me due to sibling rivalry and insecurity in her own (at the time) crumbling relationship.

>I have no idea why this would make you look bad to them.

My SO's family are really into family bonds and encouraging/supporting one another - I feel obligated to invite her but at least I can make her a non-bridesmaid and just be a normal ordinary guest. They are very WASP-y/Old-money-ish and maintaining public appearances are big for them. When his chatty aunt tried to tell me family drama/gossip, they go quiet and looked visibly annoyed. They like to sweep dysfunctional familial conflicts under the rug and turn the other cheek and keep their opinions to themselves. Hopefully my sister will look bad in their eyes for badmouthing a bride on her own wedding day lol.

Thanks for the advice, nona, but I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place here and have no choice but to invite her. Or perhaps I can lie and say that she was unable to make it to the wedding due to an illness or work-related reason…

No. 253356

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So there's this guy that comes by to my work from time to time to check up on the draft beer dispensers and he's interested in me. He's a nice Mexican guy I think in his mid or late 20s, pretty average on looks. We had small talks together everytime he visits and shared our numbers today. Probably the biggest mistake for me because he's obviously flirting at me while texting and I don't know if I should keep this up. I'm just being nice and oblivious about the whole thing.

But for someone who's a fat insecure introvert otaku loser girl in her early 20s with social anxiety and still living with her family, I'm afraid of getting into a relationship with a real boyfriend even though I do fantasize of having one (mostly 2D/fictional guys). I had rejections in the past and the thought of passing this one might left me feel hopeless and missed out especially for having someone coming up to me is a rare thing. I don't have the courage for this and I guess I'm fine living and dying without a real boyfriend. Pretty pathetic I know but what should I do? Should I friend zone him? I don't think we have much of a chemistry together or have similar interests. Still feel pretty uncomfortable about this whole thing. Shy nonnies with boyfriends, what do you think?

Tl;dr
Scared of having a bf.

No. 253360

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Okay fuck it I'm asking him out ban me if I don't update within an hour

No. 253361

>>253343
That is a tough position to be in, I'm sorry you're having to deal with so much drama surrounding what should be a happy day. Ultimately you have to do what you're most comfortable with, but I think it's messed up to feel like you're essentially being forced to endure the presence of someone who has hurt you so much. Is the wedding day for them or you and your fiance? Is it worse to endure a bit of grumbling from your families or have your sister actually be present and perhaps do so much more damage? Personally I would think the former might be annoying but less painful overall. You don't owe it to anyone to explain your reasons in detail when they are so personal, it's not their business. They may be your family but you're still allowed to have topics you keep to yourself, and it's on them to be mature enough to realize you are doing what's best for you. They may never come around unfortunately, but at least you can still maintain boundaries to protect yourself. I also think it's kind of lousy of your fiance to ask that you allow your sister to come. Not saying he's a bad person, but of all people he should be the one to be on your side and to defend you to his family/shut down any gossip rather than trying to accomodate their snotty attitudes. If you've ever heard of the grey rock technique I would try to incorporate that as much as possible. Instead of feeling you have to tiptoe around sensitive things while giving explanations to people, don't provide them with any emotional energy. Make the topic as boring as possible. Be a closed book. Give short, curt answers and maintain a neutral expression. People may think you're being callous, but they will at least eventually realize they're not going to change your mind instead of continuing to pick at the topic.
>I can't believe you're not inviting your sister! Think of keeping together the family.
>I've already made my decision.
>Wow you're not even inviting your sister? That's not very empathetic of you.
>Okay.
>What kind of person are you that you wouldn't even have your sister present at your wedding?
>Don't know.
Starve them of a response and either remain silent until they get uncomfortable or keep changing the topic. They can try to be as nosy as they please, but you don't have to give them anything. You are clearly a strong person nona and while you can't change other people's opinions of you, you can still maintain your individual sense of peace.

No. 253365

>>253360
He said yes and now I have to wake up at eight a.m. god bless

No. 253404

This is another one about a non-romantic relationship, hope that's cool.
I'm moving out because my roommate is a literal psycho; moving in with her was a mistake because she essentially love-bombed me into thinking we'd be super close, bought me gifts for no reason etc., then she started attaching herself to me, not giving me any of my own space, telling my other friends that "anon and I come as a pair!!", sucking up to everyone I was close to and trying to worm her way into every sphere of my life. Then she started treating me quite nastily, making fun of me in front of other people and acting quite two-faced, but when confronted she'd claim that she shouldn't apologise because she "doesn't know what [she's] done wrong and might do it again". However when I'd finally had enough and dared to start treating her the same way for a second she stormed out of a party and then screamed at me, then tried to isolate me from MY friends at that same party, and started telling other people that I'm apparently "abusive". She has had irreparable fallouts with at least 9 other people she was close to so I'm pretty confident that she is the problem, and she has only been nice to me in the past few months when she thought she might need £400 from me to pay a bill.
She was initially planning to move out after we had that bust-up and was messaging our landlord about how she'd be gone by March (not a word to me, just allowed me to see it in the whatsapp chat), so I panicked and found someone who would be able to take over the lease, but then she never handed her notice in and when I asked her about it got super defensive and weird. Anyway it's been 3 months of frosty interaction so I decided I'll just leave as I can't tolerate how anxious living with her has made me. I gave my notice to the landlord (I only need to give 30 days) and told her too in the nicest way possible, made it clear that I would still pay my half of the bills until my notice period ended etc. She responded by snappily asking if I'd told the landlord, and then when she came home I could hear her on the phone LOUDLY shit-talking me to her boyfriend and talking about how happy she is that I'm going. On purpose probably so I would feel uncomfortable.
I feel so angry and I'm holding back tears because it's just all so appallingly childish. I don't know how I'm going to cope whilst I'm here packing my boxes etc. I'm toying with the idea of taking the wifi with me as it's registered under my name and with my billing details attached but I'm not sure if that's too extreme.
Anyway any coping skills and advice would be appreciated. Feeling very low, girls.

No. 253414

>>253387
how does she sound awesome? her sister sounds like an absolute bitch AND she sexually and emotionally abused op when they were younger. Her sister seems insecure asf

No. 253416

>>253411
you make a good point. any advice on coping with her nasty behavior in the interim?

No. 253417

>>253416
Try to spend time with friends and family. Thats it really, you can try and act civil towards her but she seems like the type to just react childishly back to you. Ignore her, keep to yourself in your room, or go stay with others. Theres no point fighting back with her.

No. 253439

>>253365
Good luck! Update us on how it went!

No. 253445

>>253311
some of you are jumping to conclusions too quickly, she knew we were in a relationship and we knew each other before i even started dating him.
>>253302
moron i didnt know he was cheating on me with 10 women until recently and now im breaking up with him. Some of you sound like angry side-bitches .

No. 253451

>>253445
You sound miserable, makes sense for someone that got cheated on kek
Its your boyfriend who needs loyalty not other women. Women like you make me laugh. Youll blame all the woman for fucking him when he asked for it kek

No. 253452

>>253445
youre his main girl and he treated u like a side piece. How is that better

No. 253453

>>253445
You're just retarded and don't realize that lashing out at the side chick when a scrote ultimately caused your misery doesn't do anything besides make you look desperate and unable to handle your own feelings of humiliation.
I'm sure your ex was a typical con saying whatever in order to get laid, his lies seemed to work on you for at least 10 different times after all.

No. 253454

>>253273
Your man really won. He has a dumbass like you to fight women for his ego. The only humiliation is you getting cheated on lol you really broadcasted your L’s kek

No. 253456

>>253453
You cant help retarded women who fight other women when their scrote cheats. Their self esteem is on the ground

No. 253460

>>253445
idc about this situation but these men that cheat w women in their "hobby communities" always tend to be fat and hideous, kek. i just get the feeling with this guy

No. 253461

Ngl if i'd see a "main girl" humiliating a "side piece" I'd feel more embarrassed for the main girl kek

No. 253464

>>253456
There was a FtM girl I knew distantly within my friend circle who recently went on a crusade against her husband's 15th side chick. The side bitch was remarkably better looking and more accomplished. So it made the tranny look like a jealous clown.
The husband told people they were open/poly and would bemoan to everyone how he didn't like but still supported that his wife was now a "husband" just to get pity sex. Apparently the open relationship thing was true as they had a confirmed third woman, but I guess the reason why his 15th time of cheating outside of that was so bad is because the tranny didn't pre-approve or something. She probably only wanted to make sure he was porking other hiddy genderspecials that she would like too.

No. 253465

>>253445
Obviously the other woman is wrong, but going after her first just makes you look dumb. Take this as a learning opportunity anon.

No. 253466

>>253462
Babe he got away with cheating 10 times before you found out. He lied to you 10 times and it doesn't matter that you didn't know til later cause that's the point of lying!

No. 253467

>>253461
i kinda ruined her life for a short period, no one liked her in our friend group so everyone used the cheating excuse to finally gang up on her and bully her, she was left friendless and alone.

No. 253468

>>253467
how old are you? how old is your braindead ex/current bf?

No. 253469

>>253467
>people secretly didn't like her so they used your situation as the last straw rather than being honest
Liars deserve each other lmao.
You did her a huge favor.

No. 253470

>>253467
i imagine it still made you look kinda desperate and pathetic "humiliating" her publicly and i assume admitting that your boyfriend cheated on you with her? i wouldn't be confident enough to admit something like that publicly kek

No. 253471

>>253468
he is 6 years older, we started dating when i was in my teens.
>>253469
did i? its been three years and she is still a loner regularly suici-baiting on her profiles.

No. 253473

>>253470
She got rid of the side chick's fake friends and is still trying to convince herself she was the big bad bully doing the humiliating lol.

No. 253475

>>253471
he's six years older than you… you started dating in your teens. how old are you now? this is such a fucking disaster. why are you bragging that she's suicide baiting? that's just sad, it's sad all around. go make your STD checkup appointment for christ's sake.

No. 253478

>>253475
OP's knee-deep in the mental illness.
On what planet would driving one particular chick to suicide be considered justice served for the fact that your man cheated on you with at least nine others?
Are we supposed to be impressed that the friends didn't like her behind her back? They probably talk mad shit about her too and love the drama omg.

No. 253485

>>253471
>enabling a pedo scrote and acting like his lapdog to attack any woman he dipped his dick into
Kek.

No. 253493

>>253361
Thanks for the objective advice, nonny. I really do want to cut ties off with her for good so it makes no sense to invite her to the wedding. People can have their own theories and gossip about it - I will try to ignore it and endure whatever wild story they come up with. I will most likely come back here to vent about my situation when we inevitably hand out wedding invites.

I do try to win the approval of his family because - although he isn't very close to them - it's nice to have a close-knit family on both sides. I know for one that my family absolutely adores him, I just wish I could have the same from his side but they have high standards for everything and it's hard to match that in reality. I'm not exactly what they hoped for in his life partner - they wanted him to go with his childhood friend who studies in the same field as him. His mom tried to make me meet this childhood friend for some reason and I felt uncomfortable with it - I'm glad that never happened. Anyway, I constantly feel like an outsider whenever I'm with them and it's very awkward interacting with his family because we have different life experiences (plus they are better at socializing than I am).

>I also think it's kind of lousy of your fiance to ask that you allow your sister to come.

It is pretty lousy, yeah. He was raised in a family that brushes conflict and drama under the rug and pretends they are a happy family that enjoy each other's company. They're also very polite and prefer manners and civilities over petty arguments and they believe in love and forgiveness… even if behaviour and habits are hard to kill once you are over the age of 25. My 27 year old sister won't change, I don't care how much my family tries to convince me, she has serious issues she needs to work through to get rid of her toxic personality. Shaming someone and publicly humiliating them just to make yourself feel better is one of the most toxic abhorrable traits someone can ever possess, especially if they do it in front of people you love and want to win the affections of.

I really wish I could have had a loving sister relationship. I feel like I missed out on a loving sisterhood and am jealous of those who grew up with a strong sisterly bond.

>>253404
Whatever you are feeling now will be over once you move out! Keep that goal in sight and try to leave her petty childish social games behind you. To me, it sounds like she was the abusive one and she definitely flipped a switch once she drew you in as her roommate. Sounds like some form of personality disorder to me? I wouldn't personally take the internet (I'd feel guilty after - but if it makes you feel better in that you're taking vengeance and it empowers you, then go ahead!)

At the very least, you should cut off the wi-fi service and stop paying for it for her once you're gone.

No. 253520

I think I'm hitting it off pretty well with this guy. We ended up exchanging numbers within a short time of talking. We increasingly seem to have a lot in common, but the big thing is he goes by he/they… I feel like this is the thing that's gonna turn him off lmao. When he finds out I'm not a libfem. ngl I was once there, but slowly had my realizations. Also he mentioned how he normally talks very long with his friend who has a woman's name. Turns out, this friend of his is a troon. I got TIM and TIF friends too, but this is a man I'm describing. Fingers crossed or maybe I can just enjoy it until it lasts.

No. 253556

>>253471
Girl I know that 'revenge' probably feels good for you right now because you're hurting from the betrayal from both your 'friend' and your scrote ex, but I can tell you from personal experience when you look back at that behavior you're going to feel extremely embarrassed. Even if you think you 'won' by making her feel bad w.e, you're surrounding yourself with that vengeance and hate and holding on to so much negative energy that it'll seep into a bunch of areas in your life you won't even realize it. You'll start having trust issues with all women thinking they're like her, possibly even becoming one of those "I hate all girls, they are just drama whores" girls because you can't even grow past that hate. Even if you don't realize it right now, it WILL happen if you keep being angry. Learn to accept that there are shitty people out there and you were just one of the many unlucky ones to run into. Count your blessings you found out NOW (even if it was a few years) instead of like yeeeears down the road if you were possibly married with kids.

You should really try your best to focus on yourself. The BEST revenge is living your best life. It's hard, I know, because you're in a shitty point in your life. But just take baby steps, don't focus on revenge or hate or obsess over what if details or how to make her life worse. Trust me, girls like this either learn from this one time awful mistake, or they dig themselves deeper and have total crap lives.

And also, for the love of GOD don't date guys with a big age gap. It is always a huge red flag.

No. 253686

Uhhhm here goes nothing…
I’m a white girl who’s been dating my brown bf for a year. He treats me like a princess, is there for me through everything, and has made it clear that he wants to marry me. I actually waited a while before figuring out myself and telling him I agreed. We’re still so young, though, I wouldn’t even want to get married for at least another 5 years.

My mom has known him for quite a long time, and keeps asking me if I’ve met his parents yet. Well, I haven’t, and he finally told me why (which I guess is traditional culture related) last month. I’m pretty sure he’ll introduce me right around the time we’ll actually get married, but my mom is getting antsy and will start to like him less and less as time goes on and I haven’t met his parents, which should be a long while.

I guess, I’m posting here so nonnies who are more familiar with the culture can tell me more about what to expect. Just how freaking pissed are his parents going to be about him bringing home a white girl? I don’t care about “wasting my time” with no marriage in sight personally, but I might like to meet his parents earlier than planned not only to appease my mom, but to see how they react (and he reacts to how they react) and determine what exactly I can plan on.

No. 253688

>>253686
He won't marry you, imo. White girls are very well received and most brown men would introduce them to their whole friend and family circle early on because it's like a status symbol almost. Though there are the second type that only sleep with the white women which obviously wouldn't introduce them to family but still lie about-face marriage because they're used to doing so with brown girls. Is he Muslim or has parents that are of a different religion? If so that might be the reason.

No. 253690

>>253688
Yeah, he’s atheist like me but his parents are Muslim. Not sure if his parents know he’s atheist

No. 253691

>>253690
Yeah white girls are treated really well by Muslim families, even better than Muslim girls themselves, even if they're Christian and stuff so him not introducing you isn't because he's afraid of his family's reaction. To be honest I'd be worried if a man was bringing up marriage very early on while not introducing me to his family, it's a well known tactic for Muslim men because women won't sleep with them unless they trick them into it.

Your mother has met him, have you met his close friends or any family members like his brother or such? How did they act around you?

Again, I've known white girls get treated like princesses by families if the man introduces her as such but I've also heard of white girls getting hurt very badly and domestically abused because they don't quite know how brown man can be and how to stand up to them. Make sure to set boundaries and don't let him push through them, always keep your head high and don't do stuff that'll lower you in his eyes.

No. 253695

>>253691
Wow, that’s crazy if true! I browse r/interracialrelationships (sorry for cringe) every once in a blue moon to read about couples’ experiences meeting parents of different cultures, and 90% of them are absolute shitshows. I guess that’s why I expected it would be like that (alongside what he told me.)

How do I go about figuring if what you told me is true, any advice? We have a best friend dynamic to our relationship, so if what you told me is indeed true, I almost wonder if it would be possible to cut out love and sex entirely and keep hanging out like that. But if he leaves, I never let myself get too emotionally invested in a relationship, so that’ll be fine. That bit about the domestic abuse is so sad and a good point to bring up, too.

No. 253696

>>253691
Oh and samefag, I haven’t met any of his family and he even hesitates to let me know their names and pictures! I definitely always thought that odd but didn’t care too much.

No. 253697

>>253686
Erm well my experience was totally different than the other anon, my ex held off introducing me for a long while because he knew his mother would react negatively and she sure did. She believed all white women were whores with a 50+ body count and marrying me was akin to being seduced by the devil himself. The irony was I was a virgin at the time and yet her precious son had slept with multiple women, of course she didn’t know or care about the facts. She eventually worked past it but I know a lot of white girls aren’t so lucky and you may be forever seen as the evil sinful harlot.

No. 253703

>>253697
It’s not that I don’t believe the other anon, but your experience sounds a lot more like the other ones I’ve read about. All perspectives are helpful to me, though.
I guess another piece of context I forgot to add is that his family have all traditionally taken part in arranged marriages, and they were hoping he would take part in one too, but he’s made it clear to them that he will choose who he marries. Not sure if that makes a difference

No. 253708

>>253703
I'm the other anon and as I've written before, I also saw the dynamic you experienced unfortunately. Brown men either fetishize white women and think they're a trophy or see them as easy, which is very toxic either way but the first is less harmful for the woman and seems to be the case because OPs bf treats her nicely and spoils her.

No. 253711

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Hewwo

No. 253714

>>253686
Hi anon. my sister was dating a brown Muslim guy and he lead her on saying that they'll get married, have kids,s he can be a housewife (yeah, that's her dream to be a housewife, so the idea was very enthralling for her). Except these were empty promises. All he did was lead her on, never showed her off to his family and it took them YEARS to say they were in a relationship to his friends. Very red flaggy.
He then sexually assaulted her, raped her, and had sex in secret with her. Dude was a loser who lived with his parents so he'd come to our house to do sexual things and when my mom found out, they had to go to motels and hotels and stuff. She was a huge mess in this relationship and wasn't happy because it didn't seem real or serious if he kept her hidden away from his family.
She also threw up once because she was extremely drunk and he didn't do anything about it, forced her to give him a BJ while her mouth was still warm and then later made her clean it up.
Anyway, that dude was a loser who grew up on degenerate discord. Also his family hates the LGBTQ+ community and they bonded over being anti-trans.
She basically just likes brown Muslim guys because they are sort of macho (she wants to be a housewife) and they are anti-trans and anti-gay (she is a trad-type).
So please be cautious anon. I know he's not representative of all brown Muslim guys, but that was her experience and she got traumatized by him. He was a manipulative loser who knew how to pull her strings to string her along. My sister is pretty messed up anyway and loved larping as an "abusive housewife" to her brown bf.

No. 253717

I have a boyfriend. And I love him, and hes sweet. But one of my coworkers kissed me, and even though I rejected him cos I have a boyfriend, I keep thinking about it and how I honestly liked it. Im so confused as to why I'd be feeling like this. I feel like a horrible person, I'm just not really attracted to him anymore. We barely ever have sex and when we do its shit and often not to completion for either of us cos we just end up not feeling it. I don't really know what steps to take now but I feel like feeling attracted to other people more than my partner is a bad sign.

No. 253718

>>253439
It went great! We went to the library and the park, I confessed my feelings and he replied he felt the same way!!! I was over the moon. Unfortunately he had to leave the same day to go back to his college but we talked a lot and he's so considerate and sweet. And I know we've had a lot of bitchy sister posts lately so I'll keep it short but my sister has been trying really hard to ruin everything between us and make me look like an idiot to him so I'm just glad it turned out this way.

No. 253719

>>253717
Can you pinpoint what it is about the sex that's bad?

No. 253721

>>253686
It would help if you were a bit more specific about what culture exactly. Brown is a very wide category and different countries and regions vary widely on how conservative they are. Also are his parents immigrants or not etc

No. 253722

>>253719
Its uncomfortable as fuck. When hes on top, he always leans to the side and puts loads of pressure on my hips, which isnt ideal since I have achy hips frequently. When Im on top, he sits at an awkward angle, where hes not fully lying down or sitting up either. Everytime I bring up this discomfort he doesnt really say or do anything about it, he kind of brushes it off or gets awkward and embarrassed about it. He has absolutely no opinions on sex whatsoever and I dont like constantly having to decide what we're gonna do. And everytime I try to speak to him about sex he basically says nothing. Its like he has no thoughts on it at all. If we actually do manage to have sex, its boring and uncomfortable

No. 253741

>>253721
Yeah, I’m OP and I know “brown” is pretty vague. He’s Arab and his parents speak Arabic. I noticed he also considers himself “Asian” and what he tells me about his family aligns a lot with Pakistani culture, but I’ve asked him if he’s at all Paki and he said no.

No. 253743

>>253741
And samefag again cuz I’m a mess apparently, I don’t know for sure about his parents being immigrants, but if they aren’t, I’m almost positive his grandparents were. His parents apparently speak with a pretty heavy accent and there’s lots of anecdotes about them in other far parts of the world

No. 253744

>>253714
I'm Muslim and if your sister's really going to keep dating them, make sure she doesn't sleep with them and gets her hymen sewn if she married them so they'll believe she's a virgin. Muslim men only marry virgin girls and have relationships with women who act very cold and superior to them the best, that's the kind of girl he'd introduce to his family, not some girl that'll let him fuck her, aka any guy in his mind.
>>253743
Anon this might be personal but did you sleep with him? Did you do stuff he wanted that'd lead onto him seeing you as an easy woman? Also what's your ethnicity? Arab men would usually die to marry a slav or any other woman who has blonde hair, light skin and blue eyes alas they view her as high maintaince, as weird as it sounds they use and throw away nice girls and marry the ones who fuck them over the most.

No. 253745

>>253703
That sounds about right. My ex also came from a family that had pushed him to get into an arranged marriage to improve their business prospects because the girl came from a well-off family. His family wasn’t even Muslim but they maintained the same white = promiscuous attitude (they were Hindu). I never got that attitude from him but it was definitely something his family struggled with. Unfortunately he ended up being a bad partner for other reasons. You say you don’t care about wasting time without marriage, and that’s fine since you’re young, but I would mentally prepare an expiration date for the relationship (if he hasn’t introduced you/proposed before then) if you do care about marriage/children because I know a lot of brown guys will waste white women’s time with promises while knowing they’ll eventually cave to their parent’s wishes. Time spent with him could instead by directed towards your own goals or other potential partners who do actually see a future with you.

No. 253746

>>253745
Arranged marriages aren't common but men sleeping with women then marrying virgins or women from their own culture is. It probably wasn't an arranged marriage, it's just an excuse because most men like that have actual serious girlfriends and cheat on them with foreign women they keep in secret because the original gf won't have sex or even hold hands with him until marriage.

No. 253749

>>253718
That's awesome! I'm so happy it went well for you. Library and park sounds like a really comfy date. Funny how you were afraid that you guys wouldn't have chemistry, but look at how well the date turned out for you! I'm sorry your sister has been trying to mess things up.
It sounds like you're really into the guy, but just remember to be careful. If you don't have a lot of experience with relationships, there might be some red flags you could miss if you're overzealous and I just want you to be safe. I don't mean to sound like a doomer and I'm sure he's really nice, but I also don't want you to get taken advantage of if you're inexperienced/have social anxiety.

No. 253750

>>253746
>It probably wasn't an arranged marriage, it's just an excuse
Are you talking about my situation? My ex never married the girl his family wanted him to be with, we got married and stayed together for over 5 years. My point is just that a lot of brown guys will not do that, and if op cares about getting married and having kids eventually, she should figure out a time she'll move on if he hasn't gotten more serious by then. And you're right, they often prioritize their family's wishes so you have to be careful about how involved they are with them. My ex was basically already a black sheep by the time we met so it wasn't out of character for him to do his own thing despite their input.

No. 253751

>>253750
You're lucky he was a good person. I've seen men trick both women by doing what I described and it's disgusting but both are seen to be deserving it by the families and everyone else, the gf deserves being cheated on because she doesn't sleep with him and the other girl deserves being a temporary replacement because she slept with him. It's a toxic view.

No. 253752

>>253751
I agree, I could have been put through a lot worse and heard about it secondhand from some of his younger relatives.
>the gf deserves being cheated on because she doesn't sleep with him and the other girl deserves being a temporary replacement because she slept with him
They really is no winning for women. Whether you're a chaste innocent or try to satisfy all his sexual fantasies. Typical madonna/whore complex.

No. 253753

>>253752
Yeah and that's why I'm very cynical about women's brown bfs because I've seen the worst happen to women by the same men myself. I'm sorry if I came off rude at first, this topic gets me mad because of the shit some men pull.

No. 253755

>>253722
I really hate how so many women do the whole
>Omg I'm so horrible and shallow and slutty because sex and intimacy are important to me and I don't want to feel miserable every time my partner touches me. My bf is nice so clearly I should just suck it up and I'm just as bad as a scrote if I want to feel pleasure during sex
Just. No nona. The entire difference between a friendship and a romantic relationship (for the vast majority of people) is physical attraction and wanting to fuck your partner. If your bf is shit at sex, doesn't care about getting better at it and making adjustments for you, then no matter how great he is otherwise he's failing at a major component of being in a relationship. It's also selfish and inconsiderate of him to just zone out when you ask him to make changes because bloobloo baby isn't a sexual god just doing whatever he pleases. I'm so tired of men's low self esteem causing havoc in what could otherwise be pleasant relationships. If he can't suck it up and improve then you should absolutely move on to someone who will listen and prioritize you during sex. You care about him, I get it, but he's not showing you care in return and that's unacceptable.

No. 253756

>>253753
No worries anon, I know where you were coming from. Even with my more positive experience I'm on your side and feel it's a very risky proposition for most women

No. 253758

>>253745
I’m OP and cherish your advice, as well as everyone who has taken the time to respond to me. I will probably go about this by doing what you said, mentally preparing an expiration date!
It’s an odd situation to be in, because I kinda care to know, but only so that I know what to plan my career goals (ie what cities to move to, which affects jobs I can take up) around. I’m independent and don’t see marriage as a must, but also wouldn’t be opposed to it with a supportive partner as he has been so far.

No. 253765

>>253755
I guess I just feel guilty. Even if hes failing me sexually, feeling aroused by another man kissing me is shitty. I havent even told him, cos Idek how I feel about it let alone finding out how he'd feel. He'd get very upset, even if I rejected the guy. A couple years ago, a male friend of mine drugged me and he was really upset about the cheating. He still brings it up since he never got closure and found out what happened. I dont wanna feel that kind of guilt again

No. 253771

>>253765
Please tell me I'm reading this wrong: YOU got DRUGGED and he's guilt tripping you over it, calling it cheating?

No. 253773

>>253771
This was a few years ago tbf but he still brings it up occasionally and I am holding a grudge about the fact that my close friend sexually assaulted me and somehow he was the victim. But I can't really justify being mad about something that happened that long ago so I just put it at the back of my mind

No. 253774

>>253686
he's never going to marry you, ever. white anglotards and white western europeans really have zero clue about how muslims work, and parents are too retarded as a result to teach their white daughters to not date brown men. he will literally never marry you, he's going to string you along for years until he's finally forced to settle down with a muslim woman. even if he's "atheist" (he's really not though), you will still have to convert to islam if you want any chance of it.

No. 253775

>>253773
Nona you need a better boyfriend. You're the one who got sexually assaulted, he's not the victim here, you are, and you're allowed to realize and decide that him victimizing himself and accusing you of cheating is disgustingly wrong. You're allowed to stand up for yourself today and be mad about it even if it happened years ago. You deserve so much better than being with a man who accuses you of cheating after you went through a sexual assault. That's a huge second blow on top of what your friend already did to you. I'm sorry about what happened to you and I really hope you realize you deserve to be treated so much better than how he's treating you.

No. 253776

>>253765
Don't tell your bf you kissed a guy, he could get violent and since your relationship is already dysfunctional and you're most likely going to end it, the risk of him chimping out and hurting you isn't worth honesty.

No. 253777

>>253776
He's hit me twice before but when I brought it up he claimed he didn't remember. They weren't hard whacks and it seemed like he was just smacking out at whatever was closest. Still shook me up a bit. This was when we were living somewhere else and he hated his job. Is there a statute of limitation on this kind of thing? It seems too late now. Maybe I should just wait for something shitty to happen and leave him or kill myself

No. 253779

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Nonas, give it to me straight. I'm not delusional for wanting to drop this guy right?

>we meet at a wine tasting, seems nice at first, quiet and nerdy

>works a lot but wants to see me at least twice a week, we start spending weekends together
>he goes on a weekend trip to see his family, comes back and says he missed me, starts calling me often in the evenings
>weeks later he goes on a trip for a concert and then a business trip abroad, sees me one day in between but leaves the next morning to work on a presentation, calls only once to have me listen to the presentation and give him feedback
>i thought he would stay for the whole weekend
>we keep in touch and chat the whole time, when he comes back he says it'd be nice to see me but wants to self-quarantine just in case
>i casually mention my graduation, he asks me what i would like as a present
>i say it doesn't matter as long as it comes from the heart, mention baking a cake
>he says he's really bad at gifts, instead starts talking about a university pub crawl event
>says he'd like to go, asks me if i want to join (he's been out of university for two years, works full time)
>the previous day, the day of the actual graduation, he says he has afterwork drinks but he supposes he should leave at some point to 'spend time with the graduate'
>not wants to, should
>said he's a homebody at the beginning of our relationship yet seems to always have something planned
>unless it's with me - then he actually prefers staying at home and is suddenly really bad at deciding on what to do with me outside

Am I being unreasonable? He's very frugal with displays of affection and puts everything first before me. We haven't been together for too long.

No. 253780

>>253777
I'm guessing you already know what you need to do, which is leave him and get the fuck out of there. Just a matter of whether you do it or not.

No. 253781

>>253780
Its not that easy. I have autism so I dont handle change all that well. Last time I tried to break up with him he had nowhere to go and neither did I and then I got covid so I was stuck in the flat with him 24/7. I ended up having a meltdown and because he comforted me I softened up and agreed to stay with him. This was only like 2 weeks ago. I cant just randomly keep trying to leave him only to give in because he's always around me. I need somewhere to go but all my friends live with their parents. I cant stay with my mum cos me and her boyfriend had a huge fight and wont talk to eachother anymore. I make only £1045 a month I cant afford much in terms of living alone. I am trapped. I hate my life and I am slowly growing resentful of this man even when he does nothing wrong. I can't eat anymore, im losing it I swear

No. 253786

>>253779
You're not unreasonable. Sounds like he's saying he's a homebody so he has an excuse to not want to be seen with you. A true homebody is not selective of the context. He also seems super low effort with the gifts, I mean, a cake is really not that difficult, worst case scenario he can fire up ole' Betty Crocker and make a nice icing at least, but he just uses his "difficulty with gifts" as an excuse.

No. 253787

>>253777
nona I had to take a double take when I read what you posted, thinking I wrote that when I was drunk or something. My ex did the EXACT SAME THING. The only thing that saved me was literally my mom pulling me away from the relationship and forcing him to leave my apartment and breaking up. Kind of embarrassing that I needed my mom to do this since I was in my mid 20's at the time but when you're getting abused and in denial about it sometimes you need that.

Please find someone to support you and leave him. He will always claim he doesn't remember OR that 'it wasn't as bad as that' or 'I barely hit you'. It's all bullshit to minimize the actual abuse. It will progressively get worse, physical and emotional.

No. 253790

>>253787
Hes been great since my breakup attempt a few weeks ago though. I dont have a reason to leave him right now. I just don't like him. And I feel terrible. I'm being very distant because I just dont know what to do. Part of me hopes he just lashes out again just so I have a reason. I need a reason. Or else I'm a cruel bitch for just breaking up with him. But I felt something when that man kissed me and these days I feel nothing towards my boyfriend. I'm completely numb. I feel trapped in this relationship by circumstance. Im off work for 2 weeks too. I'm stuck with him. I feel so mean for feeling this way

No. 253792

>>253790
he's obviously going to be on his best behavior for at least a few months after a breakup attempt. That's what they all do.

What you're feeling is NORMAL. You aren't a cold heartless bitch. Sometimes we grow up and grow apart and realize we aren't the same person when we started the relationship regardless of what's happened in the relationship. You're comparing yourself to who you were when it started vs who you are now and you KNOW you're different now.

No. 253793

>>253792
I have nowhere to go and neither does he. If I leave him, god knows how long we're gonna be stuck together in a one bedroom flat. The flats in my name so I'm not leaving unless everything is switched to him properly. I dont want to be paying for a place I dont live at. Part of me is just waiting til september when the contract on the flat ends. But I dont want to wait. Im unhappy. I keep thinking it can be fixed, but I dont think thats possible.

No. 253794

>>253793
You do. There's a lot of women's only shelters you can go to for emergency housing. I personally have had to go to one for a few days, they also have a lot of resources to help you outside of a place to stay. Let your landlord know the situation, they are usually very reasonable even if you're breaking a contract, and if they don't completely waive the contract fee, they usually make it extremely cheap to break it for your benefit.

Don't ever ever EVER give a scrote a second chance the moment it becomes physical. It always gets worse with time. It's a cycle, he'll be on good behavior for a few months then repeat it once you do something 'wrong'.

No. 253800

>>253794
I'm not in danger tho. He hasnt hit me in like a year. Im just being distant and hes calling me mean. He's asking me whats wrong cos he wants reassurance that I'm not gonna try break up again, not cos he gives a shit. Or I'm being paranoid and looking too deep in to things. I just feel insane and cruel and wrong I feel wrong. Hes inconsistent. But right now I'm being inconsistent cos I dont have the energy to be sweet and perky. I just want to be alone

No. 253801

>>253800
ah okay. Well just know that it's okay to out grow relationships. A lot of times, people don't wanna break up not because they still love each other, but because they don't wanna break the 'habit' of each other's patterns, and all the effort it takes to break up (friends, family, moving your stuff, etc etc). Just imagine how happy you'll feel being away and alone to your thoughts, and let that guide you tbh.

No. 253802

>>253800
>He hasnt hit me in like a year
As soon as he laid his hands on you that was the cue to leave. I understand you think it's okay because he's been "good" lately but like >>253791 said, once a man hits you it's over. There's no forgiving his actions. Who cares if he's calling you mean he literally abused you.
If you're not in immediate danger you should come up with the means to move out asap without him knowing about your plans. If you tell him you want to break things off or move out who knows what he'll do, he might get violent again. For your safety don't tell him your plans.

No. 253806

>>253741
I'm a "brown" woman (north african arab), lived in different middle eastern countries and amongst diaspora arabs pakistanis indians etc and all the anons telling you to be wary are right but this close minded idea of all brown men bad he thinks you're a western whore is stupid and frankly quite racist. Sure, arab culture is pretty misogynistic and fucked but there are decent arab men out there. You know him better than any of us and it's pretty easy to suss out a shitty white girl fetish arab man. In terms of the parents, different arabs react different but worst case scenario his parents will try and get him to dump you and maybe even try to cut him off for dating a white girl/having a relationship out of marriage. That's worse case scenario though. A lot of arabs will kick up a bit of a fuss if a guy brings a white girl home but will ultimately be okay with it because he's a man and if he marries a foreigner it's okay whereas the rules are different for arab women. My advice is, if you really care about your relationship with this moid that much, try to learn a bit about his specific culture and try and be respectful and a bit knowledgeable and open when you meet his parents- dress modestly etc. Try to have thick skin about the whole situation- even if it goes well, they will probably see you as a stupid outsider white girl in the beginning, be prepared to be uncomfortable and to work hard to earn respect. I wish you luck anon and I hope all goes well for you.

No. 253814

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I don't know if I actually need advice because I already know how fucked up this is. I have no girl friends or family so I guess I just want to vent. I know I sound crazy, sorry. Years of childhood sexual and emotional abuse will do that to you.

>have non-epileptic seizure disorder, aggravated by work stress

>they make me non-verbal and basically locked in my body even though I'm conscious
>have 3 in a row this morning before work due to the stress I've been under of working a lot at a job I dislike
>bf not supportive but instead keeps reminding me that I've got to go to work, starts getting annoyed with me while I'm having a seizure
>finally manage to ask that he brings me my medicine to stop the seizures
>tosses them at me and leaves the room, can't even open the bottle by myself
>comes back in and says "so you're gonna do this then?"
>start crying and get triggered because he reminds me so much of my abusive father
>manage to get up and yell that I'm not gonna let him guilt trip me and treat me like shit
>says to me "so much for the non-verbal bullshit, huh?"

Now he's convinced I faked my seizures because I was trying to manipulate him and make him feel bad for not wanting to take me out for food during my lunch break. According to him, even me cleaning our apartment yesterday so it was nice when he got home from work, could have been me trying to manipulate him somehow because he's "seen me be manipulative" in the past, though he can't tell me how or when.

I feel like I'm trapped in this relationship because I can't afford my small apartment on my own, have no one to run to for help, have pets that depend on me, and can't even drive because of my seizures. I can barely even hold down a job right now. I don't know what I'm gonna do.

No. 253815

>>253806
from another muslim-raised woman, brown men are men. don't feel the need to defend these guys so hard.
>be respectful and a bit knowledgeable and open when you meet his parents- dress modestly
you know what muslim levels of modesty can reach and it is restricting. this is bad advice, >>253686 don't dress or act differently around the parents than you would in similar situations, unless you're okay with doing that for the future.

>>253686
if you haven't seen how he acts around his family you are missing very vital information about the strength of your relationship. also how religious is he, you need to think about if he might become more religious over time or if the cultural differences will strain his other relationships with people in his life. language differences and more add up. ask if have any of his siblings or other people in his life dated interracially.

>I’m pretty sure he’ll introduce me right around the time we’ll actually get married

you need to start talking a timeline, if this is actually the case i think it's a red flag. he may want to bring this up right before you might get married? marriage is a huge social event where you meet extended family and friends, planning a wedding is expensive and a major commitment.

my advice to assess if this is worth it or not is to see how much he advocates for you and takes on the brunt of communicating with his parents and telling them to be respectful to YOU versus him letting them step all over you. has he told you in depth what they're like and what to expect? how much does he yield to what they want him to be versus his own desires and beliefs? would he, if things got so bad choose you over them without knowing if the relationship could be mended?

No. 253829

What do you do when you do something platonic that is still hurtful to your boyfriend? I have been together with my boyfriend for four weeks now and went out to party yesterday. I made a lot of new friends and stayed over at one of the guys I befriended. I slept in his bed and nothing happened, we literally just chatted and didn’t touch because it was purely platonic between us. But I realised that even though it was just a platonic thing I did all the time before (staying over at random peoples houses, making friends wherever, regardless of their gender or anything), it’s not acceptable in a relationship. I just don’t know exactly what to apologise for because I did not cheat on him and never did. It was legitimately platonic, just disrespectful and I realise that. So I should just apologise for being disrespectful, right? Because I feel very guilty but also confused since it was genuinely fun and I enjoyed making the friends I did. I don’t want to do it again because I realise how it stems from my naivety and outdated friendliness. I am a very friendly person but I have to remember that this doesn’t always come across as such with others, and that as a girl I cannot afford to be as open and friendly to guys when I have a boyfriend as I did when single, even though my intent is to be platonic. I am simultaneously just conflicted and confused about what to feel and do. I’m giving my boyfriend space because he is obviously upset but don’t know what to say to him other than that I apologise for disrespecting him but also nothing actually happened. I just don’t want to minimize his feelings but also not make the situation seem worse than it is. I’m just confused soz

No. 253830

>>253814
Wow… This relationship was over for a while huh. Do you have parents that can help you get out?

No. 253832

>>253829
Just stop apologizing. The more you do, the more it amkes you seem guilty. Just leave him alone for a while until he gets back to you

No. 253833

>>253829
>I'm just confused soz
Would you be satisfied if your boyfriend told you he slept over at some woman's house just because they befriended each other? This is actually unbelievable.

No. 253834

>>253829
I think in relationships it's better to clarify what is deemed hurtful and/or cheating with your partner beforehand. You two seem to have different judgements of platonic interactions and if undiscussed, his feelings are pretty valid despite your innocent mindset. I hope you two can work this out!

No. 253836

>>253829
lol just don't sleep in a dude's bed. you don't have to stop going to parties or making friends or anything of this martyr bullshit. just don't sleep in a dude's bed. it's unbelievable that you don't see the distinction

No. 253838

>>253829
stop playing innocent and stop sleeping on random men's beds. is not thay hard.

No. 253840

>>253830
Believe it or not, he was just talking about how he wants us to get married the other day. And also, no I don't. My whole family (didn't have much to begin with) has passed away. I don't even have any friends.

No. 253841

>>253829
just because you didnt cheat doesnt mean you didnt overstep a boundary. Sleeping WITH SOMEONE in a bed that is not yours is still getting in close contact with someone. Sure you didnt have sex but thats still a shitty thing to do to your bf. I'd be livid if I found out my partner was arm to arm in someones bed after a party where they are drunk/high. Your bf is right to be pissed at you so there's nothing you can do right now, sorry but you fucked up anon.

No. 253848

>>253814
men who claim they can spot female manipulation or constantly call women's shit manipulative are so toxic. i'm so sorry, anon. this is so unfair for you, all of it. you have no family or friends at all?

No. 253850

>>253836
>>253838
>>253841
scrote hands typed these posts

No. 253851

>>253829
honestly if i was your bf i would be pissed also i don’t trust that the intentions of this other guy are purely platonic
as a lesbian both my girlfriend and i are mainly friends with other women so we don’t have a problem with each other sleeping over at our friends houses or sharing beds however if i found out my girlfriend shared the bed of some random woman she just met at a party i would be pissed.

No. 253856

>>253829
Kek if a boyfriend told me he “only slept over” at some random woman’s house I would 100% assume he cheated and we would be done. Especially only 4 weeks into the relationship. You can only give him time to determine 1) if he believes you at all and 2) how to cope with a partner who has no sense of boundaries.
>>253850
Are you 14? Having sleepovers with members of the opposite sex isn’t even normal when people are kids. Of course it’s weird and presumed to be sexual, and beyond that op is lucky she wasn’t assaulted because I can assure you the guy she ~platonically~ just met was hoping for more even if he behaved himself.

No. 253857

>>253856
tbf i can see how it can be hurtful to her bf or whatever but women are just not like men. you can't really typically attribute the average man's intentions and claims and often transpose them onto women in similar positions, especially grey area situations that involve potential sex or sexual action or sexuality of any kind. just not the same. all things considered, women are far more easily to be believed in this situation so it's really not the same to compare it to your bf. but yeah it's not an advisable action regardless for other reasons anyways to just sleep in guys beds platonically that you just met

No. 253858

I just want to scream into the void here: Nonnies NEVER move into a shared living situation with a scrote if you do not have the monetary or social resources to get the fuck out at a moment's notice. I don't care how great he seems at first. I swear like the last 5 questions have all involved
>I hate my partner's guts and he abuses me but I have no money or friends or family
>Moving is such a pain
>I can't afford to break a lease
>Our finances are too tied up to deal with
This is some Ye Ole Times shit where women didn't have the resources or legal recourse to live on their own. We don't have to do that anymore (if you don't live in a blatantly misogynistic country). Get a female roommate if you can't afford living alone. Do not ever put all your eggs in a shared basket with a man. Please please please. I've seen this happen so many times over and it's horrifying to watch women get trapped like this. I have been in a similar scenario myself before but thank god I had the cash to get out. Obviously anons who are already in the situation, you have to endure or look for alternate living situations as best you can and within your means. But for anyone considering it before they have a safety net, I hope this is a lesson to you. Cover your own ass before you risk cohabitation with a man.

No. 253859

>>253858
couldn't agree with you more

No. 253860

>>253850
if anything a scrote would be supportive of women sleeping in mens beds no matter what so no, it doesn't seem like scrote posting at all idiot

No. 253861

>>253860
can't speak to whether or not they're women or men buuut not really how male "empathic" thinking works. men posting on imageboards are not typically the type to be able to get a girl into bed after a party. they're obviously not going to be identifying with that guy, they're going to identify with the dude whining about his girlfriend. plus they typically take any route to smear and witch-hunt women for platonic or non-sexual behaviors.

that would be the case if they were purposefully trying to larp to spread promiscuity but they already see women as indiscriminate whores anyways so it'd be kind of pointless. not that men need to make sense.

No. 253865

>>253860
NTA but integrate. Your writing style is identifiable.

No. 253866

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No. 253869

>>253865
????? I don't even post on this thread retard. First post I've made here in months. Knowitall nelly jeeeeez

No. 253877

>>253869
I didn't read the thread but the excessive punctuation and stuff is literally against the rules because it'd make you stand out.

No. 253880

>>253877
nta but
>excessive punctuation
>literally one comma in the original post you replied to
schizos like you ruin discussion every time

No. 253883

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As my partner's 30th birthday is approaching, he is feeling the good old mid-life crisis. I feel bad for him and if there is any resources, information, experience and whatnot you could recommend to me, please let me know. I am generally a "busy 24/7" person so I never thought about such things (thanks to me living as a big sister with a huge amount of siblings and being taught to take care of things all the time, but I am also doing nothing but taking care of the apartment, do occasional art commissions and bake. I just was raised differently. ). He is a great, quiet person with a lovely family but he is also anti-social to a core. He would spend most of his years just doing the same thing, work>work on his personal fan-projects>some random entertainment like videogames or documentaries>sleep. It always surprised me how he would prefer to always be in his comfy place, comfortable bubble but he always seemed to be okay with it, up until now. Unfortunately we had to spend two years dealing with unresolved health issues that he ended up having, so I think that took a toll too, along with the country being under strict lockdown for three years until this year. I want to support my partner in any way I can, because he was always there for me for all of the years we've known each other, and I was too. I think I should just start by having a talk.

No. 253885

>>253883
where is this pic from??

No. 253887

i need advice on what to do about this guy that i dated bc my close friends are gay and girls who were never in a relationship before, so it would be nice to know what women who are experienced have to say. basically, this guy in one of my courses found me attractive. he's the first ever guy to be interested in me irl (usually date online even tho i hate it and the guys in my city are trash) and ask me out and i find him really cute for a white guy (a nice bonus: he's 6'5). i thought things were going smoothly because we shared similar interests, humor and we're into bdsm but he ended things with me right after our first date was done because he claimed that he realized he wasn't ready for a relationship and his issues would affect me which i don't think they would and i was ready to care for him if our relationship continued and also he was scared of how affectionate i was? i was pretty much crying in his arms because it was so sudden. i tried to convince him that i would wait for him but he wants us to be friends (which i said sure but i lied). a few days later, he followed this girl and started being a bit more active than usual (he doesn't like to use social media). i hope i'm overthinking and that they're just friends because he seemed genuine when he said he wasn't ready for a relationship and he said he still enjoyed our date (he spent at least 60$ and drank 3 shots bc of how nervous he was). i feel hurt over the fact he might've already moved on and found a new girl so quickly and lied to me. i still like him a lot and want him. i'm a firm believer that men are very easy to manipulate, i just have to find a way to change his mind. i know i sound desperate and retarded but i feel stuck and seeing him in class is awkward now.

No. 253888

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>>253885
nta but it's from rilakuma and kaoru

No. 253892

>>253883
30 is a bit early for midlife crisis… could be because he has no goals in life? Do you not want to get married and have kids and have your own family? Me and my husband are both approaching 30 and just got married and have our first baby on the way, there are a lot of new things happening and everything is super excited and busy, he has no time for any kind of crisis.

Honestly don't know how people who don't have kids occupy their time unless they just work or travel A LOT. If you're one of those people who don't want marriage or kids you'll have to find some other meaning in life.

No. 253893

>>253887
>right after our first date was done because he claimed that he realized he wasn't ready for a relationship and his issues would affect me
This is an excuse. He's just not that into you. Trust me I have let several guys down easy by saying "I'm just not ready for a relationship yet" only to end up in one soon after. It's basically the nicest way to put it if you don't want to hurt someone's feelings by saying "I'm just not that into you".

No. 253896

Is it considered improper if I don't go to my boyfriend's birthday party? I gave nothing against his friends, I just don't particularly get along with them and I don't have have much in common with them (and one of them is a borderline troon). My boyfriend considers birthdays to be super important while I'm whatever about them, I'd rather have a nice dinner with him.

No. 253897

>>253896
I think that's kinda weird yeah. Especially if it's important to him, you should probably suck it up and go. Sometimes you do shit you don't really wanna do for your partner.

No. 253898

>>253896
Yeah that would be extremely shitty of you. It's his birthday, deal with it.

No. 253902

>>253896
Maybe I’m a jerk but I don’t think it’s that crazy if you don’t want to attend, especially if you offer to do something 1 on 1 with him instead

No. 253903

>>253902
Instead of you attending the party, not instead of him having it entirely just to be clear

No. 253905

>>253896
If you had some intense anxiety about it then I would think it's reasonable to skip it in favor of a seperate dinner. If it's just feeling a bit 'meh' about his friend group then I think sucking it up is the decent thing to do.

No. 253907

>>253896
Like other anons said, if you know it's important for him you should go. You don't have to stay long but showing up for at least a little will show you care about how he feels.

No. 253910

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I never had a relationship where I was loved the same amount as I loved them. I am afraid it is just not possible because men are not capable of the kind of love women are.

No. 253912

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how do i suck dick theres this guy i like and we've been together for a few months now hes going to be my first everything im so fucking embarassed im a sheltered nerd and this is the first time ill ever see penis in real life

No. 253913

>>253912
Do you know if he is circumcised or uncircumcised? I can only help out with circumcised ones since that's all I have experience with.

No. 253917

>>253912
that's a question for the sex advice thread anon >>>/g/133562

No. 253923

>>253910
My experiences have left me with the impression that even when men are loving.. they're so quick to flip a switch and just be done one day with no warning. Hard to recover from the likes of that without questioning yourself and whether it was ever real. I've battled with that before.

I suppose if the lack of love is there from early on then you have to set a standard for yourself where you don't settle for half assed efforts on their part. I still find men fickle though, they can walk through fire for you one day and still be cold as hell not long afterwards.

No. 253927

I had a talk with my boyfriend about feeling like the spark is gone today. Id been distant and he kept pushing me to say why, I finally told him I felt happier when he was away for a week and was confused as to why I didnt feel the excitement I used to when he returned. He asked me to leave for a bit and said I was evil for dicking him around. I know I can come across as cold but I'd either have to lie or tell him. I'm just trying to be honest.

No. 253932

>>253927
And now hes snooped through my private instagram messages with friends about minor drug use and all hells broken loose. He's really upset, saying im evil and must enjoy seeing him suffer. I feel really guilty

No. 253933

>>253927
I've only ever been on the other end of this and it's obviously never easy news to receive. Still it doesn't sound like you've been purposefully fucking him around. Sounds like that week was a wake up call and you processed your feelings before commiting to saying it out loud. He sounds shocked by it but don't let him get aggressive with his claims that you're evil and dicking him around if you're not.

No. 253936

>>253932
doing soft drugs with your friends makes you evil? his case sounds terminal. obviously this news is distressing to anyone who is still emotionally invested when their partner has lost the spark but the drug issue and you being "evil" as a result is so weird. what is he, 12?

No. 253941

>>253927
If you didn't string him along and told him your feelings as soon as you understood them for yourself it's not evil.

No. 253942

how do I go about dealing with a bf that has much higher libido to me? I really love him but I'm just not a sexual person and I can see how disappointed he is all the time when I'm not up for it. it really scares me that he would cheat eventually or start watching porn.

No. 253972

>>253942
In my experiences relationships just don't work out if the libido is very mismatches.

No. 253985

Am I too attached to my boyfriend?
We were long distance for 8 months, and he has finally moved back home 2 months ago to the next town over (30 min away, I go there often since my parents live there too, but mostly he comes to stay with me since I live alone). I would obviously get sad whenever he would leave before since I wouldn't see him for a while but was able to see him off with a smile, but now I get profoundly sad and full of dread when he leaves at the end of the weekend. I try not to let it show but sometimes I end up tearing up and everything. I don't know why it's harder to say goodbye to him now that I see him regularly. I just love him so much. I used to have a similar reaction as a child whenever my grandma who I was very attached to would leave, and the intensity of these feelings probably has something to do with my autism as well. I have trouble processing very strong emotions sometimes and end up crying a lot.
The only other thing I can think of is that work is the worst for me on Mondays/Tuesdays and I feel really alone when he leaves on top of that and ironically those are the days I just need a hug the most.
Am I too codependent? I try to keep most of this to myself so I don't come off as insane and have my mom come visit during the week so I can get a hug and some human interaction (I have two friends, one lives far away and the other is really busy so we only see eachother once every 2-3 weeks). Am I too needy or am I just sperging and overthinking things?

No. 253997

>>253892
>Honestly don't know how people who don't have kids occupy their time unless they just work or travel A LOT. If you're one of those people who don't want marriage or kids you'll have to find some other meaning in life.
NTA but it's called having hobbies kek.

No. 254013

My bf got upset at me because my car battery died and I was five minutes late in leaving for work. He drove me and he was fuming the whole time. At first he claimed he wasn't upset, that it wasn't my fault, but ofc I was anxious because he showed all the signs of being upset. Then near the end of the drive, he chimped out and started getting angry at me because he was saying I should have left on time and at least 15 minutes earlier. The thing is, my work is only like 30 minutes away usually, but today due to ridiculous traffic and fog, it took 30 minutes to get to the freeway and normally it takes around 7. He was so upset at me that he screamed in the car. I feel terrible because I always am working on getting ready and my time management, but it seems like overkill if I left for work an hour early like he suggested. It makes me miserable to think I need to leave that early for work if I'm to appease my boyfriend. We had discussed that my batter may need to be replaced, but the lights were left on and I think it was my boyfriend because he was the last person to be in my car, but I didn't point that out because I'm afraid. Usually he's super sweet and he's never gotten this crazy before. He also complained in the car how I was looking at him. It just sucks, I was trying to be positive in spite of what was happening, but he was fuming the whole time.

I am sorry for him because he had an online quiz close to the time he would return by and it affects his day because he bought me a whole battery that I paid him back for and he's reinstalling it. I just feel like dying because I don't understand why an unfortunate turn of events needs to become a deal on how I am late by 5 minutes. I live with him and his parents and he was yelling at me how I need to leave an hour early like they all told me to, and while maybe that would be a good idea, it feels insane to me he's making a deal of how this is me being selfish. I wasn't crazy off my targeted time. I don't know. Maybe I should feel like shit. I feel like I'm somehow deficient as a person. I am ubering home because I don't want to upset him.

No. 254014

>>254013
My question is, how do I deal with this delicate situation?

No. 254017

>>254013
I am thinking of staying at a motel because I don't feel like I can bear how I'll be treated at home. It makes me want to cry thinking about it. Okay, I fucked up and I should have left way earlier even though I had no idea it'd take an hour to get to work when it usually takes half that time. I should have just had my battery replaced though I didn't know about it because I need to pay more attention to car maintenance.

No. 254020

>>254013
This is not a delicate situation, this is your boyfriend chimping out and being an asshole. Car screaming and lecturing is specifically awful because of the close confines and the other person cannot leave.
>He was so upset at me that he screamed in the car.
No, he had so little self control and regard for you he decided to do so. Does he scream at his parents or authority figures when he's mad at them) Whether it was just "in that moment" or he consistently disrespects and intimidates you, both are worrying.

>he was yelling at me how I need to leave an hour early like they all told me to, and while maybe that would be a good idea, it feels insane to me he's making a deal of how this is me being selfish

If they told you to leave earlier today because of the bad weather or had an actual reason, then that is on you for not taking their advice. Doesn't mean you deserve to be screamed at still. But if they're nagging you to leave for work so on a regular day you'd arrive half an hour early that's retarded. If you can stay or talk with a friend today please do so, okay? You say he's usually sweet but I want you to really think about if this follows a pattern of bad behavior towards you and could be escalation of those patterns.

No. 254022

>>254017
your boyfriend sounds completely out of line . there’s no way you could have known the battery would have died and even if you should have been mindful of it, what does it matter? your boyfriend was a little bit late to work? i don’t think that justifies his reaction to you. i don’t know if that’s possible for you but i would consider breaking up with him. like i just cannot fathom getting this mad at someone over car trouble and something that’s not entirely your fault. imagine if you guys experience some greater inconvenience or bad event - how is he going to react then? furthermore it really isn’t his or his family’s business what time you leave for work. if your usual time works for you then why should you leave earlier? if bad weather means you arrive late to work then that’s your responsibility to handle, it really shouldn’t affect them

No. 254024

>>254020
They were telling me to leave that early in general. I don't want to deny my wrongdoings. I know it affected his day in regards to homework as he's a student, but he does stay at home all day. I feel awful for him and I understand why he'd be upset, but it felt like a lot that he was so mad. I was trying hard not to act disappointed or upset and he's sensitive when I act sad so I was trying to be upbeat and now he doesn't care about trying to he positive when it affects him, that is what really bothers me. It wasn't like it was a good situation for me either.

>>254022
It was me that was late for work, he doesn't work and he is in school, online for now.

No. 254029

>>254024
>he's sensitive when I act sad
dump him. I'd tell you to slash his tires but he doesn't leave the house

No. 254031

>>254024
You're being abused. He's abusing you. I don't know what else to tell you. Get out now before you waste any more energy on this guy who clearly doesn't care for you.

No. 254042

>>254013
Car trouble is normal run of the mill shit that goes wrong in peoples days.. his reaction to an annoying but entirely mundane problem is a warning sign that you can either listen to or ignore. Plenty of women convince themselves to stay after events like this but I would argue this screams of a man who will only escalate if you ever end up living with him away from his parents. I'm relieved that you're living with his parents and not alone locked into a shared lease with him.

Don't place yourself in any situations where this man has the oppurtunity to make you feel like this again. You're reacting in the same way abused women do because.. that is the dynamic you're in.

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>>254017
This >>254031. This may be common behavior from men but that's because most are mentally stunted. It's indicative of a complete lack of adult coping mechanisms and the inability to properly empathize and care for a partner. Healthy people do not blow up over minor inconveniences and they don't scream and blame their partners for things that are outside of their control. Even if it was entirely your fault, the proper response is to talk things out or come up with alternate methods to avoid the issue. I know you're probably not going to leave right away because it takes an average of 7 attempts before women get out of abusive relationships and you're tied up in another joint living situation, but just think on it. Maybe you'll leave a couple months or weeks earlier as opposed to it taking years to realize he's not a nice person. Oh and in case it's not clear you have every right to be upset by his insane behavior. He is the one in the wrong.
>he's sensitive when I act sad
Another prime time for picrel

No. 254371

How do you ask your bf to propose faster! How do you know if he is about to???? Its all so scary

No. 254373

>>254371
You sound too young/emotionally immature to be marrying honestly if you can't have a mature conversation with your bf about it without going its scawwwwy

No. 254375

>>254373
True, I have had a lot of wine tonight so thats why I may have sounded retarded. Im 25, we had a chat about it yesterday and he 'implied' that he will ask me in a few months but honestly I just dont know! Its all too exciting and I dont know what all the real signs are. We've talked about babies and being married so many times, we've planned names and even the hospital I would go to for gods sake. Im just waiting for him to ask now. I want some advice!

No. 254382

>>254375
You're so cute in your excitement anon! I think if he already implied it's gonna happen soon, and you had all of these serious conversations about the future, all you have to do is wait

No. 254384

>>254375
Wouldn't you prefer it to be a complete surprise, especially if he is preparing something nice? If he's stringing you along I'd understand being frustrated but it doesn't sound like it's been a long time since discussing the subject, just let him to do it, you'll be so happy at that moment.

No. 254388

>>254382
>>254384
Thank you anons, you're all so fucking nice. I just really wish I knew if there were 'signs' of men about to do it you know? I love him so much and I'm so excited to marry him but I swear, because of my BPD he puts it off (maybe thats just my brain telling me so). I just wish some anons would give me some clear signs. I know men are retarded and thats why I thought it would be so easy to ask if women knew of the right 'signs'. I hope it happens soon!

No. 254394

I love my boyfriend but he recently opened up to me about his past sex life with his ex. It turns out they had unprotected anal sex on several occasions and one time she didn't prep and shat all over him and his bed sheets. I thought he was joking at first but then he said no it really happened. I didn't mind because what's happened has happened and it's in the past but when I asked him if they used protection and said no I got really upset. it turned out this whole time he had been putting the both of us at risk. He came back negative for HIV (I got the clean sweep and got tested for everything just to be safe) but I still feel as though I've been cheated out of my dignity but I also feel terrible because he felt insulted when I asked him to get tested. I don't understand why he wouldn't have got tested before having sex with me and I don't know what to do.

No. 254395

my boyfriend has been "bulking" for a year now…

No. 254397

>>254394
my bf had sex with with really creepy egirls and femboys. Trust me, your situation isn't as bad as you think.

No. 254399

>>254394
No, your situation is extremely bad. That he doesn't get tested regularly is a red flag. That he doesn't use protection is a red flag. Stop letting people do this to you.

No. 254405

>>254394
I ask upfront for test results. But I knew people who died of HIV as a kid and it was a big deal. I’d absolutely break up with someone over something like that. Whether you admit it or not your feelings are valid and he violated a sexual boundary of yours and now you feel uncomfortable. Good your body is doing what it’s supposed to. He disrespected you and in my exp anyone that oblivious and disrespectful one way is probably in a bunch of others you don’t realize.

No. 254414

>>254395
kek, are you struggling to find him physically attractive? that's an iffy situation

No. 254428

>>254405
Thank you for your response. I agree, I should have asked that he be tested first thing. He didn't tell me much about his sex life other than he was "still a virgin I guess" so I assumed he hadn't had any penetrative sex. When I asked if there was any chance he had anything/had been tested. He reassured me and implied he had been tested/had not had any sexual contact other than mutual masturbation. He is visibly upset when I show I'm uncomfortable with the thought of him being covered in shit but I don't know how else I'm supposed to react. The anal sex thing also makes me feel very uncomfortable because the more I learn about the person he did it with/what she had been exposed to the more I feel violated. I think I'll get over it eventually or come to a solution. Thank you to the others who took the time to respond to my query. It means a lot to me.

No. 254435

>>254428
Keep in mind even if In the future you should ask. Don’t discredit the fact his response was bad. No one should get upset or uncomfortable with expressing a need or boundary to get tested. It’s your health and life and it sounds all around like maybe communication was fumbled. But it’s something I would note. If he had apologized and been concerned about you and how it made you feel originally would it change how you feel now? Also why is he telling you more about it and why wouldn’t you be uncomfortable?

No. 254436

>>254394
>>254397
Tf why did he open up about his past sex life? Why is that common? I don't care if my partner got triple fisted upside down my their exes, ion wanna hear that shit. Past is the past.

No. 254437

>>254436
Like my partner and me are old friends. I knew stories from years of friendship, but we’d never bring up that shit now. It’s gross.

No. 254438

>>254436
This. Insecure motherfuckers who have to notebook their partners lives are actually scary asf. Asking for std checks is perfectly normal but going into the innate details of their past is honestly problematic.

No. 254439

>>254438
Tbh here’s what I’ve noticed. If someone gets mad you ask about testing. They’re a man whore or a cheater. If they talk in detail about their sex lives before they’re porn sick.

No. 254442

>>254436
In my case he slipped up and told me about him having unprotected sex, I said it was fine because he had been tested and that I didn't care but he decided to tell me the details I didn't really want to hear. I wish he'd kept it and that and just said, "I'm sorry, I haven't been tested. I can get tested though". Hearing about his ex girlfriend projectile shitting all over him and his bed was enough for me to not want to sit on his bed for a while.

No. 254443

>>254435
I completely agree with everything you said. Luckily, it didn't involve either of us catching anything so it's a lesson learned about being upfront about those things. I'm not sure why anyone would tell their partner about that kind of stuff. He was telling me about what him and his ex had done (it was a lot more graphic that what I've described) and I had to tell him mid story to stop.

No. 254460

>>254436
>I don't care if my partner got triple fisted upside down my their exes,
I do, if someone has done shit this gross then I don't want them in my life no matter how perfect they seem now. Call me a slut shamer kek I don't want to be with a pervert past present or future

No. 254473

>>254460
okay virgin mary, we're all pleased that you've been a clean girl your whole life but that still doesn't give you the right to judge your partner on their past sexual experiences. Everyone explores as a teenager or adult and if you want a clean moid with no track record whatsoever you should probably give up now
we're the internet generation and we've all done and gone through weird relationships and sexual experiences. The most important part is to be honest with your partner about STD tests

No. 254476

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>>254473
>just accept the cumbrained moid who re-enacts porn, it's ~exploration~

No. 254477

>>254473
I can judge, I will judge, and I am judging you currently slut

No. 254478


No. 254479

>>254478
not even convincing, try harder next time

No. 254480

>>254478
kek i'm neither of the anons but if anyone's a scrote it's you

No. 254482

>>254473
gotta agree with this anon im sick of other posters acting like men and women having sexual experiences such as anal or whatnot as taboo
I swear half the posters here are boomers who have no idea that people in the 21st century have more exciting sexual experience than just missionary

No. 254483

>>254473
>pushing fetish shit as just a part of healthy sexuality
>implying women who don't like that are prudes
i think i found the moid here

No. 254484

>>254480
ok bro keep it up

No. 254489

kek deleted the "get laid for once karen" post cause it made you look too obvious

No. 254490

>>254489
get laid for once karen

No. 254491

>>254473
As long as it isn't anything disturbing or violent, it doesn't matter. What's done is done.

No. 254492

>>254490
go fondle your cum-stained anime body pillow

No. 254493

>>254491
exactly, op was just talking about some anal bullshit and all these posters are acting like he ended the world. He needs to get tested and tell op the truth, otherwise its retarded to prey on his past so autistically jesus

No. 254495

>>254492
go back to your femdom husbando thread loner

No. 254496

>>254491
there's plenty of things that aren't violent that are still a red flag. e.g. i have zero time for someone who has done cross-dressing since that's a gateway to trooning out. or anyone who used to be into threesomes because "omg hawt lesbians who want my dick". vet your fucking moids for pornsickness, idiots

No. 254497

>>254495
you must have worked so hard to resist typing "femcel", sweat was pouring down your neckbeard

No. 254498

>>254493
It’s a red flag he told her in detail to the point she had to say stop. It’s a red flag he didn’t get tested before. It’s a red flag he got upset when she wanted reassurance and testing. Take your libfem or bullshit somewhere else. The grown women are talking. No one cares you larp liking anal prolapse because your desperate for scrote attention.

No. 254499

>>254497
how hard are must your fingers be shaking from not being able to type 'moid' or 'scrote' you fucking retard
inb4 you're about to post scrote or moid because thats always your fallback idiot

No. 254500

>>254442
How is it possible to slip up and talk about your past sex life without intending it?

>>254460
My point was that its weird as fuck the whole discuss every sex act and experimentation and what you liked in bed with your ex, like why is that so common now, to kiss and tell? Why do new partners need to hear about how your ex liked getting her clit licked at an 90% angle or how yalls favourite thing together was missionary for procreation? Like why cant people just say what they like and dislike without bringing up ex partners and detailed stories?

I like getting my ass ate, but I can tell new partners that without talking about how I loved it when my ex ate my ass for hours. Like why is subtlety not a thing anymore?

No. 254501

>>254499
lmfao seetheing
go back to your own fallback of "omg you don't have epic sexy empowered girlboss sexy sex like i do!!!!!"

No. 254502

>>254501
you have no point and just sound retarded
idiot

No. 254503

All the dumb zoomies reeeeing about how they were groomed and sexually abused and that's NORMAL u old boomers!!! Get therapy, learn to cope with being unlovable due to trauma

No. 254504

I hate this thread

No. 254505

>>254502
damn you're really mad, that fleshlight is gonna get it rough tonight

No. 254506

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idk if this is the right thread for this but I'm 20 and have never been in a relationship, but I'm scared that if I don't find a guy that's young enough, my kid may end up autistic or otherwise develop-mentally-impaired. I'm aware that the older the sperm, the more likely is it for their children will end up autistic or otherwise mentally disabled. My uncle is special needs and he was conceived when my grandpa was in his mid 30s, but my mom was conceived when my grandpa was 29, and she turned out fine. I wish I could tell my future husband to freeze his sperm when he's like 21-24 or something, but I can't. Is there a way to get over this fear that I know I can't really do anything about ,aside from maybe recommending long-term partners to freeze their sperm?

No. 254507

>>254493
I'm that op aha English isn't my native language so I probably didn't do a good job at summing up what I'd said. I don't mind that he had done that before, I was just upset that he didn't get tested. Instead he chose to tell me the full graphic story when I started panicking about possibly contracting HIV and god knows what else. I mentioned that it was anal sex because I believe she had done it unprotected with other partners in the past so that's where my fear of contracting HIV stemmed from.

No. 254508

>>254505
>everyone who disagrees with me is a man
ok loner

No. 254509

>>254507
the whole story could have just ended in you asking him to get tested, thats it. tell him to get tested or dump his lying ass why do you even need to ask a dumb internet forum for this its common sense

No. 254511

>>254508
you're just repeating yourself now. common symptom of cumbrain, many such cases!

No. 254512

>>254511
ok bitch whatever makes you sleep with yourself at night
fucking idiot

No. 254514

>>254511
stop responding to bait stupid

No. 254515

>>254512
using "bitch" really shows how totally female and totally not mad you are

No. 254516

>>254512
>seethe

No. 254517

>>254515
listen to this >>254514 and go calm down honestly, schizos like you and them shit this thread up for everyone else

No. 254520

>>254506
Please do not worry. I think your fear is justified but do not waste your happiness worrying over something like this when you're so young.
When you're with someone and you get to that point in your relationship where you feel happy enough to have that discussion you will. I don't think you should go into a relationship with this in mind because sometimes it can cause more stress. Just address the fact you want children.

No. 254521

>>254506
It might bring you peace of mind to look up the genetic factors for your uncles disability. Might be related to pregnancy pollutants or something easy to screen.

No. 254529

>>254394
wanted to add my 2 cents to this conversation
I did bdsm with heaps of guys and girls before I met my current bf and he only had 2 gfs as far as i knew i barely asked though we both got tested and came back fine
moral of the story: just get tested and be honest with your partner if they are lying to you or feeding you bullshit its not even worth continuing the relationship

No. 254537

>>254493
>>254491
>>254482
anal that leads to projectile shitting on the bed is kind of disturbing tbh unless you have a scat fetish

No. 254543

>>254537
ugh don't make me sick I would rather die than let anyone–man or woman–near my fucking asshole. I'm sure it only became a thing as gay sex became more understood. I mean think about it why would any normal man want that when the biological alternative is there?

No. 254544

>>254537
I just want to clarify that this was the detail I was really upset with not the fact he had anal sex. It was the realisation I'd potientally been exposed to hiv and the graphic description of his ex girlfriend spraying liquid poo goo all over him. I'm not sure how much detail I should go into on here because his description was nauseating

No. 254545

>>254500
>My point was that its weird as fuck the whole discuss every sex act and experimentation and what you liked in bed with your ex
I actually agree with you. I swear I didn't intend to set off so much infighting but unfortunately it's really common itt. I don't need or want to know every detail of a partner's history, but as >>254496 brought up there are some things I just don't want a partner to have done. Especially for a man I see them as red flags. Extreme bdsm stuff, anal, crossdressing, scatplay, polyamory, having been community dick. I don't need all the dirty details but a simple yes/no about certain acts will suffice as they are boundaries I prefer to maintain. I'm perfectly happy on my own so it's far from a death knell to me if that means I'll never be in a relationship again. Certainly a better prospect than settling for someone who I know would only bring me discomfort and disgust. If others don't care that's fine, but it's just insecurity (and possibly internalized misogyny) to tell another woman that she's insane or puritanical for having standards. I personally have no desire or energy for men who don't have a similar outlook and it harms no one for me to see things that way.

No. 254546

>>254543
The projectile shitting description is the reason why I wouldn't want anyone near mine. I don't think most normal people aren't repulsed by the thought of shit. It's waste why would anyone want to Subject themselves to that. Do anal if you want but it seems normal for people to be freaked out by shit

No. 254551

>>254546
Not only that but we already have perfectly good vaginas that self lubricate, stretch to accommodate things and are nearer to the clit than an asshole. I know the occasional woman does actually think anal stimulation feels good, but for the majority it's just a need to satisfy scrote pornsickness

No. 254553

>>254551
I think vaginal is good for all of the reasons you listed, my bf raised these points along with the fact theres evidence it can damage the tissue in your ass, there's evidence it can cause some kinds of cancer and can lead to incontinence. people can do what they want but anal is extreme. It can be painful and it can be dirty so it's normal for people to not want to do or be with someone who wants to.

No. 254555

>>254553
It doesn't feel truly good for either. They just get off to doing something different or risque (gross). Gays do it because kek what else is there?

No. 254558

>>254555
The projectile shitting though… Dear God… why would you Subject yourself to that. Imagine what you could catch from that

No. 254566

>>254543
>>254546
>>254551
Enemas are a thing, and anal is as vanilla as you can get, unless you're some stuck-up churchy prude or extrene radfem.

No. 254570


No. 254573

>>254566
Yes, we get it. You feel the need to validate taking a dick up your anus by dissing women who prefer not to.

No. 254575

>>254566
"You guys said you didn't care if other people took it up the ass but talked about why you preferred not to/why it's dangerous so fuck you you prudes!"

No. 254576

>>254573
OK, but don't come here complaining that your boyfriend resents you for being a closeminded selfish prude. It's 2022, most heterosexual couples have at least tried anal, get over it, it's just sex in the butt.

No. 254577

>>254576
Why would you reformat my comment and prove everyone's point. You're defending yourself by insulting a bunch of people that said they don't care what you do. Why can't you get over the fact some people don't want to do it? Do you see the hypocrisy of telling people to get over themselves for something YOU'VE done?

No. 254578

>>254576
Enjoy your many prolapses butthole-chan

No. 254579

>>254576
Calling someone a prude for not wanting to be fucked in the same hole their shit comes out of makes you sound like a retard.

No. 254580

>>254576
This is what happens to your brain when you watch too much porn.

No. 254581

>>254576
The way this post is worded I'm pretty sure this anon is baiting tbh.

No. 254582

>>254537 I don't care what people do but I can't get over the waste products involved. My ex was having sex with a girl, felt a warm feeling and started to pull out. Shit starts pouring out of her ass on to his dick and his bed and it won't stop (which I think would be just as horrific as seeing someone projectile shit on you). It's plopping out of her, she gets up rolls over, smearing shit on his bed under her ass and starts running around crying with shit dripping down her legs. Absolutely fucking horrific description. He said the smell was unbearable.

No. 254586

>>254582
> starts running around crying with shit dripping down her legs

Nonna I'm dying rn just imagining the benny hill music playing and her running around in a circle but poor girl that is just awful tho I kill myself

No. 254588

>>254586
I'm rlly glad it gave you a laugh lol you're right though idk what I'd do if I became a shit faucet and gave their floor a new lick of brown paint. I can't think of anything worse

No. 254589

>>254576
Omg moidlet! You can't just assume everyone likes getting dicked in the ass just because you're a fag who does!

No. 254590

Weirdos with degenerate kinks are always mad that some of us don't need to be held at knifepoint and slapped up to be sexually aroused kek

No. 254591

>>254590
Anal sex is not degenerate, retard.

No. 254592

>>254591
Why are you still arguing with us sexually inexperienced totally vanilla femcels don't you have a dick to shit on (or to be shat on)?

No. 254594

>>254591
Well of course everyone's going to say stuff they're into isn't degenerate, it won't make the shit less degenerate though.

No. 254596

>>254582
Why tf did he mention that to you in such great detail? I'd be horrified that if we broke up he would start telling others and future partners about our embarrasing private moments as well, it would completely ruin my trust in him if I were you.

No. 254598

>>254596
Men love telling stuff like this, especially if it's humiliating for the girl. That's why you shouldn't ever do weird sex acts with men.

No. 254608

>>254596
Like >>254598 said really. It came up once when we were with friends talking about how shitty the people we had dated were. It was a pretty casual relationship I had with him so wasn't too phased by it.

No. 254611

I was gonna ask for advice on what would be a good gift for my boyfriend's grandma on here but now I'm laughing over the shit fest people's bfs have experienced during anal. Pls post more of these stories…

No. 254613

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Caught my bf watching sex tapes of him and his ex, I'm devastated, when I caught him I asked if he wanted to say anything about it and he just says "no", latter he said he accidentally stumbled upon the videos while cleaning his hd and was just watching it…

No. 254620

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>>254613
That's really sad anon. I would be heart broken if I were in that situation. I'd say if you aren't that serious you might just want to call it quits. If you're more serious it might be a different story. Sorry I don't have any real advice

No. 254621

>>254613
I'm so sorry this happened to you nonnie, that's just inexcusable, what a disrespectful piece of shit.
Also does his ex know he still has these videos? I would personally tell her what he's doing with those vids that's so fucked up.
He needs to delete them and prove to her and you that he has.
I don't think I would stay with a man who treats women this way.

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>>254613
i'm sorry anon, that is absolutely devastating. but also obligatory picrel.

No. 254667

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made a normie fake dating profile on one of the apps today cuz bored and saw my ex that's been trying to get back with me. seeing him made me feel like shit but helped me see he's been lying/manipulating me and will help me move on ig.

No. 254755

nonnies I know I'm an idiot but how do I deal with the fact that my bf openly admits to liking a completely different type than me? I can't shake the feeling that he's settling cuz (surprise surprise) he can't get the type of person he's into.

I'm white with a boyish build and boyish features, he's into curvy black girls. His friends even mentioned to me at a party how 'damn how does it feel to be with a boob guy when you don't have any??' I told them to fuck off and we haven't seen them since but the point still stands.

I know 'be confident! be urself! self esteem!' is the answer most people have but the feeling of him pining for someone other than me always lingers despite how great I feel about myself.

Obviously I brought this up to him and he says while yes he does find large breasts and dark skin attractive, he's happy with me. Something isn't clicking for me…

No. 254757

>>254608
So? Thats even worse, telling secrets casually to friends and non serious partners

No. 254762

>>254755
>I know 'be confident! be urself! self esteem!' is the answer most people have but the feeling of him pining for someone other than me always lingers despite how great I feel about myself.
so you already know the solution, i guess you'd just like some validation? i get that it's not a great feeling. it would be worse and breakup-worthy if he was the one constantly making you aware of his tastes though. but it seems like it's mostly his friends (and i do hope he stands up for you to them) and your own mind. you can ruin even the greatest relationship this way. you can be with someone who is super into white women with boyish build and still end up feeling inadequate because he also likes it when they have another hair color/different personality traits/interests etc. almost no one ends up with someone who checks all of their attraction boxes. a fantasy is a fantasy, it's not necessarily what works for you in reality. and most people "settle" in that sense - they don't wait for someone perfect straight out of their dreams to come along, they go for someone who makes them happy in reality. it's far from the miserable kind of "settling". and you too probably have things you are attracted to, things you always imagined your ideal partner would have that he does not fulfill. you too probably find other people attractive but do not pin over them, obsess over the idea are unhappy in the relationship or love your boyfriend any less.

what really matters is: does he not only say he finds you attractive but actually makes you feel attractive? does he blatantly ogle the women who are his "type"? does the fantasy distract from your relationship, do you feel neglected? or does he actually treat you like the most attractive woman in the world regardless of any pre-conceived "types"? focus on his behavior, not your worries.

No. 254764

>>254762
I agree with you on fantasy being fantasy, and that there is no ideal. Happiness in general above any vague notion of the ideal is how I try to structure my relationships.

I think my issue is as you stated in your last paragraph: he doesn't make me feel attractive, he continues to watch porn with exclusively his type (he knows how I feel about porn but sheepishly says he's addicted), when held accountible for these things he claims it's unattractive to be so paranoid and have such low self esteem.

The wild thing is, is that I find myself generally attractive, I like the fact that I look strange and tend to accentuate those features. I'd like to save the relationship since it's fulfilling in most other ways, but this just makes it feel like we'll end up as roommates before long.

No. 254765

>>254764
Nonny there are plenty of men who love a boyish body. He knows he makes you insecure and that he has control over you and that you will compare yourself and do the most to please him. He wants to keep you insecure and make you feel guilty and unattractive. Life is too short to stay insecure in a relationship, there are plenty of men out there that worships your body type.

How would you even try to save it? You can't change your race or body type, and you can't chance his preferences?

No. 254766

>>254755
>damn how does it feel to be with a boob guy when you don't have any?
He's not going to like you, he'll dump you whenever his retarded type cones along so just find someone better. Someone that likes you for you and doesn't make his friends mock you.
>>254762
This is cope. All men have autistic types and although they'll date women who don't fit them, they won't value those women and keep searching for their type while still dating and even cheat on the women. If you know your bf doesn't like you and keeps wishing for a different type of woman, just end it.

No. 254769

My ex is a bad guy who treated me bad most of the time with sweet intervals. He dumped me after logging in to all my social medias and reading through messages looking for dirt cos he thought I was cheating (i wasnt). He's in my flat and I'm in a hotel. I thought itd be civil since I'm trying to be chill and he broke up with me but when I contacted him about moving out, he was just horrible. Expressing that I'm cruel and evil and horrible. He went off about how much he hates me and how he doesnt deserve this and how everyone thinks im an evil bitch. I was so confused cos he dumped me but after living together and dating for 3 years, reading that kind of shit really hurt. I knew he had a mean streak and I've seen it before, but nothing so concentrated and vile. Hes agreed to move out but im terrified of going over while he's there. I dont know what to expect. He talks about how I could be so cruel as to leave after 3 years despite him dumping me and going off on me because I left? When I pointed out he dumped me and described exactly what happened he got really angry and was like "seriously? You're just twisting shit to make be the bad guy. Congrats you fucking win" I don't get what he's trying to do. It hurts sure, but I'm mostly just confused

No. 254771

>>254764
and there's your answer: first of all just never stay with a porn addict in general. you can't fix them, it's never worth it. a porn addict who blatantly watches porn of women drastically different from his girlfriend to the point where it interferes with her self-esteem and does not make her wanted in her own right is super not worth it.
>>254766
ok sure, so just wait for someone whose autistic ideal you are and who you are also perfectly attracted to. i'm sure that will work our great.

No. 254773

>>254765
>>254766
if only you knew how he looked to add to this soup of shit… you'd understand that he'll NEVER date his 'type'. I love freaks though, I cannot help it.

But you're also right… hate to say that the general mentality of this board helped me confirm a lot of what I was already thinking about men and relationships, but it definitely has. It's funny how the majority of people I know IRL (regardless of gender) prepetuate accepting so little of men and really can't seem to have this conversation, so thanks for the input.

No. 254779

>>254769
i know you're hurt nonny, and i know everyone who's talked to you and even the logical part of your brain is screaming at you to leave this human filth behind but i'll say it again: he doesnt deserve you, its just textbook narcissism, he's trying to absolve himself from any wrongdoing. ignore it and don't pay it any attention. go over there with a friend if you need to ensure your safety!

No. 254780

>>254779
I know hes wrong and I can do better and everyones telling me that but I keep thinking about those times where he was kind and sweet and funny and I remember why I tried so hard to put up with him and I feel so sad it couldnt be like that all the time. I loved him so much

No. 254781

i know exactly how you feel, it's really hard to let people go for that reason
you need to come to terms with that he's not the man you fell in love with. it can be hard because it feels like you're grieving a sweet, funny dead person who won't come back, but it helps to phrase it like that. you'll find someone else and the world moves on

No. 254782

>>254781
Thanks nonna. I think things will get a lot better once hes moved out and I can go home

No. 254783

hi nonnies i would really appreciate some input because i have nobody else to ask so thank you for reading if you do

my bf and i are very close. he has no friends except me and a few guys he games with. i encouraged him to make more friends and talk to more people because i want to see him happy and i put too much pressure on him. he is my only friend as well and i dont want to be suffocating

im not against him talking to girls. in fact i encourage it because he doesnt have any feminine energy in his life except me. but i found out he was talking to a girl who was coming onto him very strong (calling him cute, he even sent her pictures) and she explicitly said she is looking for a bf, not friends. he didnt mention that he had a girlfriend once and didnt reject any of her advances.

i confronted him immediately, his defense was that i 'told him to talk to girls' (even though i said AS FRIENDS ONLY im not some cuck) and he didnt explictly flirt back (which is true, he didnt call her cute or anything). im just hung up over the fact that he chose to talk to a girl who told him she is only looking for a boyfriend. i couldnt even recognise him from the way he texted and spoke to her. ive been crying a lot and he keeps calling me crazy and that im overreacting. he said a lot of hurtful things. i know he didnt cheat on me and i don't have it that bad but i need to know if im in the wrong for even being sad about this because i feel like im going crazy

No. 254785

>>254783
also im 19 hes 22 he treats me very well and takes care of me and i know i'm too dependent on him which is probably why i feel so guilty for even being sad but hes always been so honest with me and i have trusted him completely , i was asking him who he was texting and he kept saying it was nobody and hid it from me which also hurts a lot, if he didnt lie i would feel much better

this is the first time anything like this has happened

someone please tell me if im making a big deal out of nothing

No. 254788

>>254783
He knows. He knows exactly what he's doing and he loves the attention. He's playing dumb and making you feel crazy. The fact that he hid it proves that.

The fact that both of you are a bit shut in and codependent doesn't help. Do you feel like his company is enough for you? Maybe if he wasn't your only outlet for friendship/relationship and you weren't his there would be a more healthy dynamic. What he's doing is sneaky, but you should be able to branch out to have a life outside of the relationship, just now how he's doing it.

No. 254789

>>254788
not how he's doing it*

No. 254792

>>254788
Thanks for your reply i really appreciate it
I know i'm too reliant on him, I don't think he is on me because he's a lot more self assured and confident than i am, so theres definitely a power dynamic between us

Its hard to make other friends since i get along better with women but all my college classes are filled with guys. even tried the friend finder threads here but they didn't work out too well. it all started because im the one who encouraged him to talk to other people too

I know i seek way too much validation from this guy and probably wouldn't if i was less insecure. plus ive been with him since I was 15 and can't let go of my naive fairy tale perception of love. i know this shit's so cringe, i wish i could be more rational and stop idealizing things so much

/blog

No. 254796

>>254783
>>254785
He's blatantly gaslighting you. I'm not going to give you any advice, what you do is up to you, but know that he 100% knew, without a doubt, what he was doing, knew what he did is wrong towards you and makes the concious choice to blame and belittle you instead of owning up to it. He knows what he's done and he knows he's lying and hurting you when he tells you you're crazy (which you're not.)

No. 254798

>>254783
You are 100% in the right. You seem like you have VERY high empathy, which is a recipe for disaster when you have a partner who isn't on that level. Just remember, the ability to empathize with your partner, to work to understand your partner's feelings as well as come up with a plan to deal with those, is one of the most important qualities you can have in your partner. If you can't expect him to care about your feelings, what good is he for?

>in fact i encourage it because he doesnt have any feminine energy in his life except me

Also, what the fuck does this even mean?

No. 254801

>>254798
>>254798
>Also, what the fuck does this even mean?
Haha, I was in a rush and didn't know how to word it. He doesn't have any female friends or close female relatives (only brothers, mother passed away few years ago). I feel like the people he talks to both online and offline have stereotypical male mentality. Idk if that is offensive, apologies, i didn't mean it like that

yep you're right about me having too much empathy. he's agreed he can't feel as much empathy as me and struggles to understand how i can be as sensitive as i am. from his perspective it makes sense but it's difficult for me to fathom, idk

>>254796
>>254798
okay i'm glad i'm not overreacting, strangely enough i feel a bit better knowing that. i told him i want to be alone for a bit. ty for the help nonnies

No. 254803

>>254801
>the people he talks to both online and offline have stereotypical male mentality
I get the sentiment, but this isn't something you can force. I think on some level you know a person's friends reflect their own beliefs and values. But pushing him to get different friends or change his friend group won't change him, unfortunately. He will still be garbage trash.
>he's agreed he can't feel as much empathy as me and struggles to understand how i can be as sensitive as i am
He basically admitted you two aren't compatible. It's up to you what to do with this information.

No. 254820

Nonnies should I apologise for overreacting?
I'm autistic and sometimes I get really exhausted socially really easily. I told my boyfriend since before we even started dating that occasionally I need space and won't reply as often. After a year together that happened starting last week, and I wouldn't go a full day without replying, just would take a couple hours. My bf started saying I don't talk to him anymore and that I'm distancing myself.
I explained two times that I just needed a bit of space and he kept saying that when he doesn't feel well he tries to get close to me because I make him feel good, and the fact that I do the opposite means either I have a problem with him personally or he doesn't help me, he's not autistic btw. I tried to understand his side and I kept trying to reply to him often and the problem seemed to die down until tuesday.
I got incredibly stressed and exhausted from personal stuff + autism + having to reply to him when I have no energy. I told him we could try to take a break (not break up) so I could get better and all that. He gave very short replies, including one saying that taking a break wasn't a thing and we either were together or not. I asked him for a middle term solution that would be good for both of us and he just didn't reply at all. Last night I was so upset over him apparently not caring enough to reply that I just sent a message saying 'i kept trying to find solutions for this but you're not even trying to be communicative' and blocked him.
Welp, now I think that's it right? But I wasn't ready for a breakup, I never wanted that. Should I unblock and apologise?

No. 254824

>>254820
If your boyfriend can't handle a few hours away from you/not talking to you, hes in the wrong for that. Especially when you've explained to him that its because your autistic. He needs to respect your needs, if he can't hes not the right boyfriend for you

No. 254825

>>254783
>tells bf to go make female friends
>is surprised that females are attracted to her moid
>is surprised that said moid is enjoying other female company when not having it previously
every time. you told him to go talk to females knowing he's a recluse and an internet guy, I honestly don't know why you'd be surprised this has happened.

No. 254827

>>254820
Is this an e-relationship?

No. 254831

>>254827
No, irl relationship.

No. 254834

>>254829
better to be alone. if these men only want you if you pay for shit, that's so unattractive. if they don't reallly like you there's no way you're having good sex. you deserve better.

No. 254839

>>254820
There's absolutely nothing wrong with not immediately replying, does this guy not have a job? And even then nobody is entitled to quick answers (unless it's for an emergency of course), you did nothing wrong anon.

No. 254842

>>254829
Why is this even a question, being alone of course. Being alone here is a breakeven, being in a relationship with a man who only takes costs (far) more than it gains you.

>The loneliness is killing me

Partnership isn't the only form of valuable company

No. 254855

>>254829
Being taken for granted feels ultimately worse than being your own master and getting to decide what you do with your time.

No. 254886

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just blocked my bf for mocking my depression. Any nonnas have any tips on how to feel better? I cant believe i confided all my trauma in someone only for them to mock them. Please tell me it gets better anons

No. 254950

>>254886
He’s a shit head and you deserve better. It gets better. Hot showers, extra pillows, warm drinks, little bit of sunshine, proper vitamin d, hobbies, and lots of focusing on you. It’s uncomfortable and it hurts but you deserve good things nonnie.

No. 254974

>>254783
You're not making a big deal out of it. I basically made this exact post a year ago, only to find out he was doing even more with her than he let on, so reading this struck me. Please trust yourself and how you are feeling. He knows exactly what he's doing, he had no interest in just being buddies with her, he'll just keep obfuscating and lying. You're in my thoughts anon

No. 254990

catfished a guy and now really like him
what do

No. 254991

>>254990
tell him the truth

No. 254994


No. 255005

>>254990
……why. Just why.

No. 255006

>>254990
you catfished him with a "prettier" girl or with an entirely different personality or both, or what?

No. 255008

>>255005
privacy lol, I’m paranoid giving info out so made some bullshit info up

>>255006
i lied about some details of my life like my name and stuff just to hide my identity. had a stock image on my profile thingy when he first added me and he prob thinks that’s what I look like. he only saw that one pic of “me” and we never talked about it idk. I don’t even think that the stock image is prettier than me so hopefully he’s not repulsed by me when I show him lol

idk I’m obviously gonna tell him. i didn’t have malicious intentions but that’s obviously not an excuse. i really didn’t know we’d be invested in each other as friends. I’m hoping he doesn’t block me after and kind of understands

No. 255010

>>255008
idk maybe my idea of catfishing is different that's not really catfishing tbh, or it's barely catfishing. i don't think it'll be an issue unless he's the type of whiny bitch to just start shit with you

No. 255015

>>255008
I agree that this doesn't sound like catfishing at all. If he responds badly then that should tell you all you need to know about him and be able to move on afterwards.

I'm also after some advice as well. How do you deal with your partner having a bad attitude anytime you bring up something bothersome to you? I asked him to unfollow the girls on his Instagram that only post thirst traps and he agreed while giving me a bad attitude about it all. "Whatever mate it's just Instagram."
I feel like my feelings are perfectly valid and the way I asked was nice enough to not get that kind of treatment back.

No. 255018

>>255015
i wouldn't be able to deal with that kind of attitude for a very reasonable request like that, especially after you exerted very specific energy in trying not to start a fight or create any resentment. if he wants to be single instead and enjoy all his thirst traps, let him. i wouldn't deal w this from the jump, let alone receive attitude for it

No. 255028

My boyfriend got mad at me for a) not letting him help me troubleshoot when he wasn't being much help and b) moving his hand out of the way and telling him to stop when he reached for the controller when it wasn't working (different incident, but the one that set him off). He yelled at me to stop projecting my ex's insecurities onto him, because he falsely assumed my shitty programmer ex was the reason I reacted that way to him trying to help me. It's not that at all - I really hate it when people look over my shoulder and comment on what I'm doing when I'm frustrated and trying to figure something out, and it also felt like a betrayal to hear him bring up my ex like that out of context. My bf gets mad whenever I, in his words, snap at him like that, but either I'm the world's most unfeeling bitch or he's overreacting because I never recall saying anything harsher than 'use your brain' when he unintentionally did something that almost damaged something precious to me. We very rarely have serious arguments, but we only ever seem to have them when I unintentionally say something to upset my boyfriend. Am I the problem? I do have autism and I grew up in a rather blunt family so I probably am being rude without realizing sometimes, but I don't raise my voice at him, swear, or say things I know will hurt him.

No. 255034

>>255018
Honestly I'm not sure why I didn't bring it up earlier. It's something that has bothered me for a long time and I'd immediately forget, tonight I finally remembered I wanted to talk about it. He unfollowed them but at the expense of dealing with the passive aggressive response.

I told him he needed to explain his attitude but I'm still waiting for a response on that.

No. 255035

>>255034
let him tell you, but don't expect anything other than an eye-roll in verbal form. honestly i don't even have convos with men that show resentment towards me in any way. either we're compatible naturally or i will dip. not begging to be treated without resentment for something very reasonable

No. 255056

sorry for green text but I'll make it easy
>be me, out of LTR last year, still kinda talk to ex but no urge to relationships/sex with anyone
>see handsome guy on instagram follow me
>maybe he'll unfollow after tomorrow
>he doesn't
>follow him back bc hes handsome and seems exciting- travels, fitness orientated and enjoys nature, business, grad from one of the top schools in my country, dresses well, seems HV
>DMs me a but after I follow
>says he likes my style
>say thanks and tell him we must have met before lol ask if hes from my city
>my city is not viewable on instagram profile, just country and a general I visited this place post
>looks at old insta posts bc currents are in another country
>kinda sad bc instagram crush
>view his story
>"excited to be home in X city, coming back from work trip,"etc
>tell him "and there it is lol!"
>he dms me back and says it must be fate and smthn else but I didnt see because its latish now n I dont feel like opening it up n leaving him on read bc I wanna be smart about this

Nonnies I've never done anything like this before online and I want to make it last. I have been thinking no decent males exist despite my male-prominent job. So question is, how to do THIS?

No. 255057

>>255056
He dms me after a BIT* I'm retarded sorry for the sperg

No. 255058

>>255028
This reads like all of these relationship stories from r/relationships subredding where a woman tells a story of a disgusting, abusive moid and then proceeds to ask "Am I the problem?". No, you're not, your bf though would really benefit from some deeper insight into himself and starting to take better care of his anger and jealousy issue

No. 255060

>>255056
Ngl this sounds like Tinder Swindler lmao
But seriously though; I don't know why are you trying to be "smart about this", if you want to meet up with the guy just respond and arrange a meeting in a nice, public space. Nothing to lose by hanging out.

No. 255062

>>255060
It's ok nonnie, I need bluntness for the autism. I have no relationship experience besides my HS sweetheart and I'm social enough but not though to know what might come across wrong. Would coffee be an okay hang-out? I don't know if I want to ask him or wait for him to ask me. Will update later/samenon

No. 255063

>>255062
Coffee is a perfect choice, especially for this kind of implied first date, good luck and have fun!

No. 255088

I feel like my ex is taking advantage of my patience. He dumped me on Monday, so I spent £300 on a hotel room til today. The breakup seemed amicable apart from him snooping in all my socials and me having to change my passwords. Anyways, I tried to speak about the flat on wednesday to him only to bs met with just insults and smugness as he seemed to think he was staying there despite me paying far more for it up until this point. When I said actually no, I can afford it he retorted with that not being fair. Anyways, he knew id be out of the hotel on friday and we agreed on me keeping the flat and him moving out. I meet him today to speak to him and I'm met with passive aggressive bullshit. Him dropping comments about how his whole family hates me and the timing with his uni dissertation and how moving shouldnt be his problem cos I have family in the city (family he knows im no contact with) so he drops on me that I have nowhere to stay tonight too. He suggests I stay in a hotel again but I'm already £300 down. I left pretty upset as he'd just been gradually chipping at me since I got there. Ive managed to sort staying at a friends tonight but im dreading going back to get my things. Im starting to feel like my home is being stolen. I dont want to complicate things but hes insisting on keeping a key so he can get his post and it makes me nervous. Its just exhausting and its not fair

No. 255107

Can someone tell me to get over my ex. He was an asshole and way too critical about my choices and interests, but I'm still hung up over him because it was nice to have someone to spend time with.

No. 255110

>>255107
Get over him and get some friends. If you can't, work on loving yourself.

One day you'll look back and wonder in the fact that you willingly wasted time with an asshole.

No. 255133

>>255088
Who is on the lease, is it in both of your names or? If like you say you paid more and he was the one doing the dumping I don't get how he could expect you to be the one getting a hotel last minute and not him. Him being on the lease solo is the only way that'd make any sense.

I've been in a situation before where a bf was on the lease and I was just paying my way but without signing, dude was an asshole who would lord that fact over me any time we fought (threats of homelessness used to get his way) and it sucked because morals aside he legally had that power and it was such a shitty power trip to take advantage of that. If your guy doesn't even legally have that power then he's even worse.

No. 255142

>>251399
Hot Take: Marvel/DC Superhero culture is doing to men and boys what Disney did to women and girls
As young girls, we were indoctrinated with all these harmful, self-abandoning messages by Disney movies, and there are now legions of men and boys who literally function as though DC/Marvel were their religion. They draw their actual morality and mythology and meaning from what began as COMIC BOOKS. I'm sorry, it drives me up a wall, and has contributed to this exponential growth of Main Character Syndrome in men, where the only desired women are attractive and useful (Pepper Potts) or attractive and rescue-able (Mary Jane Watson). Either way, they're just adjacent to men and in service of their storyline.

No. 255143

>>255142
Don't even get me started on the "superhero origin story" of being a misunderstood loner who one days comes into his power and shows 'em all. It just gives a convenient narrative for men to justify being self-centered and accepting no corrective critique from society. Plus the superhero achieving his ends always, always, ALWAYS entails violence. Every time.

And Hollywood keeps making more and more of these movies because this childish, delusional shit makes bank. I genuinely fear there will come a point where you can't find a single non-superhero movie in the theaters. This also contributes to American exceptionalism, male privilege, and so forth. American society is damn near close to having no other moral compass than pop culture tropes.

Can you tell how over this I am? lol. For God's sake, grow up. You're not Tony Stark and never will be

No. 255144

>>255142
>>255143
They do everything except the desirable things about these men. They aren’t making any Tony Stark money or trying to be humanitarians. They don’t protect women. They don’t work out and get bodies like Thor. The only thing they want to emulate about these guys are the toxic aspects of entitlement and violence.

No. 255149

>>255110
>get some friends
I've always hated this advice

No. 255150

>>255088
break ups are never easy and they're always fucked no matter what

No. 255151

>>255142
Girl I think I just read this in FDS or am I tripping but hard agree, I'm so over men and their main character syndrome when it's like, can you build me a shelf David? Cook? Do any useful skill that isn't sitting your fat ass down and sperging about video games and other things meant for kids online to other freaks?

No. 255156

>>255142
This reminded me of a guy I met recently, didn't even have the marvel connection but the main character syndrome was off the charts.
> I was born into addiction, I inherited it from my dad, my life has been a battle, I've made bad choices but here I am today still picking myself up, let me share my story so others who are struggling can…
He shares these raps of his life story online and nobody watches them. All it's about is him liking alchohol too much and getting messy drunk in his youth. Where I live that's every other guy his age. He desperately wants to have a dramatic and inspiring backstory but that's all hes got to work with. His fam are pretty nice and his background is mundane as hell. I just want to tell him that there's nothing wrong with being an average nobody.

No. 255158

>>255156
This site is full of level-headed people, compared to any other chans or forums. Let’s hope people who are reading this can pick up what we’re saying

No. 255178

>>255156
I'd even go so far to say that superhero movies, the way they are currently used, are compensation fantasies for men in general.

There's this huge number of young men who are failing at life. An entire societal group of socially maladapted, vidya-playing, badly educated young men on the verge of NEETdom. A group of men between 15 and 30 who are, objectively, failing at launching into adulthood. It's a development that is both new in its scale and that has no real equivalent in women.

Just looking at the stats- young men earn fewer college degrees than women, they're unemployed more often, they perform substantially worse in school starting in elementary and never make up for that gap, they struggle with addictions to porn and gaming, and a third of pubescent boys have behavioural issues so bad that we slap the label 'ADHD' on them and pretend they have a legitimate disorder. Men, as a whole, are not performing well.

These movies are an escape fantasy for all the incels, NEETS, and mediocre white dudes who are staring at an unyielding brick wall in front of them. Those bottom 25% of young men that have no real female equivalent- Batman is their escape fantasy.

No. 255190


No. 255194

Idk if this is the right thread, since the problem is me.

I'm a total degenerate. I love attention and want to fuck around because I like it. Yes, I know, no woman is like me and I must secretly be a moid, maybe I need to go on T since I'm such a man about sex. Anyway, I have a partner who my family and pets really love, and his interests and stuff mesh well with mine. We just don't have sex very often (his libido is not as high as mine I think). Plus, I love fucking different people specifically. I just want some miracle cure that will cure my degeneration and keep me from going ape shit on genital carousel. Open relationship is not an option, neither is leaving him. I'm afraid I'll cheat him. Then again I'm also wasting my young years with old mini dick ash balls. Why am I like this, I need jesus

No. 255200

>>255194
either let your moid go and commit to your whore life or find a moid with shit morals to share your life and STDs with

No. 255202

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>>255194
Just dump him. He sounds like a bore.

No. 255206

>>255202
cute pic
>>255200
this seems very scrotal but i have to agree only with the objection that "whore" is unnecessary. if you think you can change, maybe you can, maybe try concentrating on gratitude than your sexual fantasies. but ultimately, your libidos and sexual/reomantic preferences are not compatible and for you both this is important. unless you can control it, it's better than to build resentment and be stuck in a house with someone awkwardly.

No. 255211

>>255206
>>255200
(deleted reply)
I know I'm a fucking whore and I should kys, it's not normal for women to be like this, that's why I want to change. Maybe I'm actually intersex and have a hidden y chromosome, that's why I want to change.

>>255202
>>255206
Thank you nonnas, also cute demon, but I really don't want to leave a man just because I'm a freak

No. 255216

>>255211
Being a horny slut doesn't make you a man or intersex. Many women go through periods of very high sex drive in their lives. If you want to change it, try hormonal birth control. That shit can and often does kill your sex drive. You might also get tested for STDs because some common ones like Chlamydia can make you super horny. But ultimately other nonas are right in that it's ideal to find a partner with a similar sex drive as you, particularly if you don't want to be in an open relationship or be a poly weirdo. Although if you want to be one, more power to you, just find a partner who likes that too. It's not cruel to leave someone if your lifestyles are not aligned. It doesn't have to be about who did something wrong or whatever. Some people just don't work well as couples and are better off just being friends.

No. 255221

>>255211
literally there’s nothing wrong with you just date someone with a high libido

No. 255224

>>255194
>I'm also wasting my young years
Leave tbh. If he knew you felt this way he'd probably agree it's best to break up.

No. 255226

>>255211
stop being a retard

No. 255254

>>255216
>"try hormonal birth control. That shit can and often does kill your sex drive"

Dystopian advice

No. 255269

>>255194
>I love fucking different people specifically
>Open relationship is not an option
well alright, suffer then

No. 255271

>>255211
>I know I'm a fucking whore and I should kys
kek shut up.
as for the advice you've gotten so far, i agree with everyone. you want to fuck around, want to stay with your boyfriend and also don't want to be in an open relationship, those 3 requirements just won't work out. you have to let one of them go, either give up the relationship, restrain yourself or make it an open relationship.

No. 255276

>>255254
Yeah I know, but she asked.

No. 255287

>>255211
jsyk, i was calling that other post a little scrotal, not you. i was just saying i think long term libido incompatibility and your desire to have sex with other people is fully possible to realize, just… be with someone else. not really sure how to stop your desires to fuck other people and stuff, it's probably difficult to do even if you were to just lower your libido. i just don't see how you'll be able to reconcile not fucking other people when you want to, with a life of monogamy and comparatively infrequent sex. seems very incompatible and a big issue.

No. 255303

Thank you for responding to my dramatic whining kindly nonnas t. horny retard

No. 255329

>>255056
Update from DM guy and spergnon here.
>said it must be fate
>he also asked if I was from our city and I said yes and lowkey suggested a trail/hiking date (hurr durr I know all the spots around this city)
>tells me a nice hike is good every while and makes witty comment introducing himself
>"also btw nonnie, if you're wondering who this handsome man you're talking to is, my name is (blank) :smileyface:)
>I think it's cute he introduced himself despite it being on his profile
>tell him this pretty girl hes chatting with name is nonnie and when are we getting coffee
>tells me it's nice to meet me and hes more of a wine guy and asks me if I like wine
>tell him I do like wine and it sounds nice
>I messaged him back about 2 hours later bc busy around 8pm, he hasnt responded or anything but I like that he doesnt message late and is respectable
My city is basically LA in my country so it's not all super crazy with the school or anything but I feel retarded because everything is going well and I've always wanted something like this to happen but could men actually be capable of this? He didn't even say drinks but wine. Is it possible hes just trying to imply to get drunk and hookup? But wouldnt you just say drinks? I feel so retarded oml. I'm very very very excited though nonnies, hes very handsome and appears to have a work ethic and be decent.

No. 255337

>>255329
I think "drinks" would imply hookup more than "wine" but maybe he's just trying to seem sophisticated?
It all sounds very nice and I hope for a good, fun time for you anon; but please stay careful. It might be a prejudice on my side but there are things you've shared about this guy that make him seem like a possible fuckboy. Of course if you're fine with it, it's all ok. If not, just be careful, and - as autistic as it may sound like - it's good to straightforwardly ask about it if there are more signs to suspect so. Of course, not the "are you fuckboy" accusation but more like "would you like to hang out more often or see it as one time thing?"
Either way - I hope you'll have cool date, get to know him more and things go well! Update us if anything more happens!

No. 255339

>>255337
Nona ilysm, thank you for looking out for me like this!! The asking is a good idea and that's subtle enough for me too! I've never been into hookup culture so I'm not even sure about how it works but I'm hoping for genuine interest, hoping hard kek. Much love nona! I will keep you and all of lolcow updated xx

No. 255340

Is it normal to hate it when men banter with you? My boyfriend was watching me play a game the other day, and he made a lot of sarcastic comments poking fun at everything I was doing. It obviously wasn't done in a way meant to humiliate or hurt me, he was just teasing but it still pissed me off. I roasted him back the entire time, but deep down I felt very annoyed thinking to myself "this isn't the kind of dynamic I want to have with him." Aside from this he's always so gentle and kind, constantly finding ways to make my life easier, gives me lots of compliments, and always praises my intelligence/my unique way of doing things. I think he eventually realized I wasn't too thrilled, because he apologized for going too far. But really, I feel like it was something that shouldn't have happened in the first place. What do you guys think? For the record, I don't mind it when my female friends roast me, but when men do it it's so unattractive and a huge turn-off. Am I just being too sensitive?

No. 255342

>>255340
I hate when men banter with me too. It's annoying and dehumanizing, if they can't treat you with the equal or greater amount of respect and compliments than it goes further than just banter, in my experience. My ex would always tell me his friends were joking with me when I stood up for myself and eventually called out their bullshit, one day they got mad at me though and told me they all hated me and it was a big running joke with them. Sadistic. Nothing wrong with wanting a man who cares.

No. 255345

>>255340
It isn't a great feeling sometimes when men treat you as 'one of the boys' I've been put off by it both in relationships and in friendships. There's times when it works and times when it doesn't. It's all just a matter of reading the room and the situation I guess. Men don't always pick up on when it's a bad time or when they're overdoing it. Your guy sounds like he cares and just made a mistake though.

Like sometimes they do it to irritate you on purpose but he sounds ok.
>"this isn't the kind of dynamic I want to have with him
Don't be afraid to be clear about that. And ime if you specifically say it's a turn off they tend to learn quick enough.

No. 255347

>>255345
Samefag to add. I read a story lately about a woman who was half beat to death by her bf after she called him 'sis' during a conversation. So men don't like it when they experience the equivalent.

No. 255369

I really need to talk to a therapist about this, but I don't have the money so here goes.

I became obsessive with appearance related stuff after I found my boyfriend was watching porn when he said he was done with that. I am delusional and genuinely believe that if I make myself more attractive, I won't have to worry about that. The add insult to injury, at the time I foolishly sent nudes of myself to him, so it made me feel worthless and pathetic. The things is, I objectively see myself as ugly in those photos, so my brain immediately blamed myself.

How do I stop thinking like that? Even at that time period when I was sending the nudes, I got a lot of positive attention irl for my appearance. It's only increased since I've become obsessed. My boyfriend has apologized and says things are different, but I feel like I cannot trust him. I avoid checking his computer, phone, etc. because I'm afraid of what I'll find. I don't want to spiral again.

I just don't know what to do. I want advice on how to heal from something that happened due to a relationship regardless of the guy because even if we broke up, I'd still feel this way.

My boyfriend is against the surgeries I haven planned, and I don't point this out because I don't want to upset him, but I am sure the people he's watched have had those surgeries and such. In general, he is worried about my obsessiveness, and many times, I get so caught up I don't even think about how it started. But when we talk about my poor relationship with sex, how I demand it, how I link my appearance with it, we then invariably talk about my obsession with appearance which leads to the initial event I talked about and then it just triggers me because I remember WHY I became this way. Of course, I know it's my fault, but it hurts what triggered me to either make the choice to deal healthily or unhealthily as I have chosen.

Could someone point me in a good direction? Like, any books or such. I feel like this is related to me being abused as a child. I was molested as a really young child and I got jealous over the attention my abuser gave to other women because I watched him like a hawk (he was related to me). I felt inadequate because I was a child and I knew I was "unattractive" because I didn't have adult woman features at the time. That I think is what triggered me to care about appearance at all from a young age, but this event with my bf triggered me into a hyperstate as an adult.

No. 255372

>>255369
Please dump your bf and get therapy. I got a plastic surgery because a scrote told me to and now I'm trying to get revisions so I can get back to my natural looks just because I feel disgusted with myself because I let a retard influence me into this by picking apart my appearance. Please don't do what I did. It's not your fault that society wants women to fit a certain mold and media advertises that type of woman while also putting down women who try to look like them.

No. 255374

>>255372
My boyfriend is very supportive of my natural appearance and I've taken a poor situation and made it worse through the way I think about it and this is what lead me to want plastic surgery. I will tell myself it's all about looking my best, but then I am sobered when I remember that the only reason I even started caring is because of the incident with my boyfriend. I got obsessed and wondered how the girls got photos like that and it lead through a rabbit hole of filters, plastic surgery, and a bunch of shit that I can't forget now that I have learned about it.

>It's not your fault that society wants women to fit a certain mold and media advertises that type of woman while also putting down women who try to look like them

This is very true. I just want to cry because a lot of people tell me how beautiful and attractive I am, but it isn't enough….the surgeries I want aren't to fix anything, they're just to perfect my proportions. It doesn't matter how good you look, I feel, if it doesn't translate to a photo.

No. 255376

>>255369
Does your bf know about your csa history?

No. 255379

>>255376
Yes, but I haven't told him the weird jealousy thing because I feel so terrible for feeling that way as a kid. The relative is my brother and it makes me want to commit sudoku I felt jealousy over him ever, I think it was because I really looked up to him before the CSA and I wanted his attention and love because he was specifically mean to me as compared to my sisters (who both never had csa).

No. 255384

>>255379
Men who date csa survivors.. they love to feed you this fake empathy but then they're usually pornsick themselves and take advantage of the boundary issues or hyerpsexuality that csa often produces.

No. 255388

>>255374
I've known some beautiful people who looked terrible in photos and some who knew how to do their hair makeup and poses perfectly so they looked like 10/10 even though they weren't like that irl. Don't obsess over plastic surgeries, you could and probably should get therapy for that reason alone and if you do, make sure its a female therapist. My therapist was a faggot who looked like a dollarstore blowdoll because of his shitty plastic surgery and when I told him of my look related issues, he only pressured me more.

No. 255389

>>255369
>My boyfriend is against the surgeries I haven planned
>dating a porn addict
no he isn't against the surgeries he hates hearing about the reality behind the bodies he faps too. I know guys like this too well and they're happy to fap to fake ass and tits all day but as soon as a woman considers surgery they flip

honestly? moids like this are braindead when it comes to womens bodies, you could easily just go ahead get the surgeries and then claim it was a business trip or something and he would be too stupid to know but also praise you for getting the appearance of women he faps too, but that's way too much for a moid so just dump him and heal your body dysmorphia

No. 255390

>>255389
This. Men want fake tits, asses noses and lips but want women who are born with those characteristics. They also want women with glam makeup but also demand them not to apply makeup. They want to believe the fantasy, they don't want to know how hard it was for those women to look that way.

No. 255395

>>255389
Nta but I think the only reason why porn addicted bfs often don't jump at the oppurtunity to have a surgery enhanced gf is as simple as.. they don't want other scrotes to notice you.

Men think if you get a makeover you'll up and leave them but tbh most women are at higher risk of up and leaving their scrotes by just getting therapy and getting higher self esteem. Which is what op would do in and ideal world. Easier said than done though I get that.

No. 255397

>>255390
Men will never truly grasp how artificial other women are, including small onlyfans users who are the worst about the fakeness too, that's the tough part about dating porn addicts it's that they think it's normal for womens bodies to look extreme but don't want their princess to get plastic surgery, wear makeup, waist train, whatever but will happily ignore her and show attention to women who do

you're also expected to perform insanely (expected to mind you, if you perform good these men act like it's just how all women are supposed to act during sex and won't praise you for it/ will just expect other women to perform that way) but also not be extremely experienced or anything. Porn really made men expect the impossible which is probably why so many women just simply lie nowadays about surgeries, experience, etc

No. 255400

>>255395
Possibly, I dated a PA who was against surgery but also would pressure me to stop taking psychiatric meds and cursed me out and ghosted me if I took them, I thought it was just weird until he harassed me for doing other things to better myself like get a job, make friends, etc. It eventually clicked that he was scared that other, much better men would show men attention and I'd realize how low value he truly was but he was right about that kek

anons bf probably realizes men enjoy big bolt ons and bbls as much as him because we live in clown world where all men are porn addicts and think plastic parts is normal on natural women

>>255388
this makes sense, cameras nowadays are shit tier and everyone relies on overeditting/far away angles to look good, some cameras make you look compressed therefore wider/shorter and can make your boobs look smaller than what they really are, or just make any curvature to your body disappear all together. Super curvy and 15 inch waist tiktok stars are always using filters and no one seems to understand

No. 255406

It's almost universal that monogamous women will experience at least a little bit of anxiety/stress when stuck in a relationship with a scrote who looks at porn/instagram girls. It's not natural for men to gawk at thousands of different women with bolt on tits and ass in the span of 2 minutes, or to be able to look for degenerate, hardcore porn on demand and have it completely overwrite and warp their normal inclinations. How are you supposed to trust him and in the relationship when he treats women in general as objects to masturbate to? I wish women would stop blaming themselves for feeling shitty about it, it's a natural reaction to a pathetic and disgusting habit. He could be enjoying a mutual intimate moment with his partner but instead chooses to jerk his chafed, limp noodle to voyeuristic porn like a cuckold. Absolutely disgusting.

No. 255410

>>255406
>It's not natural for men to gawk at thousands of different women with bolt on tits and ass in the span of 2 minutes, or to be able to look for degenerate, hardcore porn on demand and have it completely overwrite and warp their normal inclinations.
this so much, the biggest defense men use for this is that it's ~natural~. Attraction to other people is normal but wanting literally impossible body types that never existed before plastic surgery? not natural. Becoming so porn sick you're convinced every woman outside of your relationship is willing to hook up with you? not natural. In nature, males fight other males to compete for sex, males mount other males to show dominance and you just had to get whatever female that was willing to fuck you and be happy with that, you couldnt just watch porn and play vidya all day since you have to man the fuck up and hunt, protect and so on. Moids would literally commit mass suicide if humans reverted to the natural ways of living even though they're so obsessed with the idea that they're degenerate porn addicts because of evolution

No. 255412

>>255410
dude they literally have memed themselves into being gay, and completely avoiding the vagina and going straight for anus on a woman. there is no sense, rationality, or evolutionary reason for why men like the shit they like. they're always trying to justify their retarded trends and fetishes that change with the wind. fucking retarded. 100%, men would put out "scientific articles" justifying how there's an evolutionary NATURAL reason as to why they want to fuck cars or toilet bowls instead of just having normal sex with a normal looking woman.

No. 255413

>>255412
This. Men never shut up about how 'nature' and evolution and instincts are what make them like big tits, that's what makes them cheat, that explains away all their shit.. and then there's anal. Just doesn't fit.

No. 255414

>>255413
>Men never shut up about how 'nature' and evolution and instincts are what make them like big tits, that's what makes them cheat
I don't get this, breast size has nothing to do with fertility or breastfeeding, also moids who cheat have a terrible survival instinct since a lot of women will murder them for cheating or cut off resources for them, which is odd because a lot of men who cheat are often being financially supported by their women, wouldn't their superior intellect tell them that risking getting resources cut off for cheap pussy isn't the best idea? who knows

No. 255415

>>255413
>>255414
it changes every single day. one day small breasts that look more "youthful" are more evolutionarily attractive, the next day, massive boombooms are evolutionarily the best. not to mention the entire specific field is bullshit but i mean, come on, in what way is fucking an anus ON A WOMAN evolutionarily useful? or cumming on her face? yeah, super useful.

No. 255420

Am I fucking crazy to be upset with my boyfriend? I fell and sprained my ankle a few days ago and my dad is coming to visit. I told my dad i was injured because I fell but didn’t tell him details because it’s genuinely really stupid and I wanted to tell him in person. My boyfriend asked if I told him how I was injured and I said not yet, and he goes on and on about how my dad is going to think he beat me. I told him that was literally insane and my dad would literally never think that and I was going to tell him how I got it in person, but he kept going off about how when women are injured - people think it’s the spouse that hurt them. He was getting annoying and I kept telling him he was being weird and my dad isn’t going to think that and I was literally going to tell him - and I shouted this because he was still going. Then he got mad at ME saying, “sorry for voicing my concern I’ll just shut the fuck up.” And when I tried to reason he kept interrupting with “no no no it’s fine get what you want” like ?!?! I’m sorry???? I have to walk around with crutches but I have to baby you with how people perceive you???

No. 255421

>>255414
They claim that your proportions somehow magically indicate whether you're fertile and good at carrying babies or not. I'm sure fertility docs must see women with flat asses all day long….I mean that's how fertility works right?? They just twist logic to try and suit themselves and match their tastes. Years ago big boobs meant fertility and now it's big asses mean fertility. God evolution works quick lol. Then the same men want you to take the pill or they cum on your chest instead. Fertility drives my actions they say..

With anal there's no way of twisting it to make it about nature and pregnancy. It's the total opposite and I love them having no nature based excuse for it.

No. 255424

>>255420
Nonnie you are not crazy, he just sounds extremely anxious and got angry because men can't deal with emotions. You shouldn't have to baby him either because he's a grown ass man but if he's only met your dad a few times, he is most likely worried about what your dad thinks of him and how he will be perceived. He wants to be accepted by your dad but sounds too anxious to bargin with. Don't worry nonnie, you did the right thing and things will be fine

No. 255425

>>255421
It's funny because they always sperg about how Asian and African women are popping out babies like no tomorrow even though the average cup size in these countries are usually A-C cups? Kek. Also by their logic shouldn't those fundie women who have like 20 kids be curvy goddesses as well? They're usually not. Or chubby chasers who claim chubby women are more fertile when in reality chubby women often have the biggest issues with fertility and are actually less fertile, fertility issues start at higher ends of healthy BMIs for some women, wouldn't their dick know this if they didn't take biology lessons from hentai?

It's also funny since they'll usually point out women like Beyonce, kim k, Tyra, Marilyn Monroe, etc to be fertile because of their body but all of these women are very open about their trouble with conceiving. If they truly cared about fertility then why aren't they simping over celebrities that have multiple kids with zero issues conceiving or birthing? Either their "natural instincts" are hella broken or they need to put down the fertility excuse when being shitheads towards women

No. 255434

>>255425
>>255421
>>255410

Also funny how muh biology goes right out the window when they seethe that women only want chad, and not their inferior dna. Or that men fall asleep after sex while women gets hornier to ensure she sleeps with more men undisturbed and that the semen compete with eachother to fertilize the egg. Or that the prime age for men isn't 40+ and that they have their best years ahead of them, while women have to settle, but that their sperm degrades every year after like 25, and they have already missed out lol. Or that women naturally are more attracted to strong alpha men during ovulation and then naturally want to make a beta cuck raise his offspring.

All while saying women are more primitive, but we're not allowed to use biology as a justification. But the logical men, they just can't help but be controlled by their primal urges.

(I know I use moid terms but I'm just using their logic against them, I don't actually talk like that)

No. 255436

>>255434
It's always these men who also act the most jealous and controlling over women, to the point where they will flip out if they even ~sense~ that their girlfriend might be cheating. In nature if female mammal cheats on the male, the male is supposed to fight the other male for dominance, males constantly fucking female in the animal kingdom also means the female is healthier and more desirable so the male should feel lucky if the female is always cheating, shouldn't they be flattered by cheating girlfriends then instead of getting suicidal tier?

No. 255475

>>255436
>getting suicidal tier
lmao they get homicidal tier specifically towards the woman, again, going against their evo-psych shit

No. 255530

>>255329
DMnon here with another update.
>he asked if I liked wine and I said yes, white wine
>he said he likes it too and said "we should split a bottle sometime"
>my sperg ass asked nonnies what it meant
>he probably wants to hook up
So where do I go from here nonnies? How to respond?
1. When and where?
2. Oh yeah? Over dinner?
3. I prefer a glass with my dinner but we could do a bottle
I'll take any suggestions nonnies but plz vote!

No. 255531

>>255530
def something in the realm of 1 imo
You could offer a day that youre free or something? or just respond asking when he would be thinking would be a good time
also I rate your cross-board linking 2/10

No. 255532

>>255531
Thank you for voting nona. I went back and clicked on my cross-board link and it's very bad OMG. I'm wondering if I should just delete it and repost without the numbers so I dont annoy the other nonnies.

No. 255533

>>255532
do it like >>>/g/255530 i think

No. 255534

>>255530
just do 1 i guess. he could be a weirdo trying to get you drunk but he could also be saying bottle by being generous, plus no one knows anyone else's particular alcohol tolerance. some people drink 3 glasses of white wine with their meal, or just one, etc etc. men typically don't just drink 1 glass of wine, basically ever.

No. 255535

>>255534
nta but is it really that weird to want to get drunk with someone? it's not like he's blindsiding her with it

No. 255536

>>255533
Bless you sm. Thank you nona. Now I will be able to link knowing the format, much love xo.
>>255534
Thank you sm! I get a good vibe but I'm still uncertain on if he is trying to DTF or meetup. He doesn't message me late(past 9) and neither do I, he also slid in my dms very casually and isn't doing the classic /fuckboy/ style of sending fire emojis, liking my riskier selfies or being sexual. That's why I'm also so confused! It's late right now (2am) so I will message him back in the morning going for a 1-type message. I also work 2 jobs (an 8 hour and then 5.5- I'm not poor rn but I'm trying to save money) so I am basically unavailable except for when my work aligns.

No. 255537

>>255534
>>255535
Am I dense or do people actually get drunk over half a bottle of wine? It's like two-three glasses.

No. 255538

>>255535
nah it's not at all. i get drunk with guys (that are my friends) but i try not to get too drunk with guys i don't know too well. if she is the type or others are the type to be wary of getting drunk with a relative stranger though, i can understand. i'm providing options for all considerations. me personally, i do fine getting drunk around guys though but it depends on your level of comfort and how well you may know them.

No. 255539

>>255537
it takes me like 4 glasses and if you're eating? even more.

No. 255540

>>255329
>said it must be fate
I hate it when men pull this cheesy shit lol

No. 255541

>>255538You guys get drunk with half a bottle of white whine?!Q?!?!?!??!?!? the fuck.

No. 255542

Winenon again.
I don't get drunk off half a bottle but I get pretty buzzed off of it! I don't mind drinking a bit with someone either but I'm just not sure if he's suggesting his house/bar/dinner or what yet lmao! I am bad at relationship stuff ughhh. Thank you for all your responses nonas, I appreciate you

No. 255543

>>255537
I can get a good level of drunk on that but I drink infrequently. Tbh it probably doesn't matter though 'let's share a bottle' is just a line. It sounds classier than what usually happens, which is people popping open more bottles after that.

No. 255544

>>255543
agree with this but some anons in the other thread she was posting in were making a big deal over "split a bottle" vs "have a glass of wine". as if idk he's an alcoholic or a predator or both. i mean both are possible but i wouldn't really jump to that conclusion based on that line. plus if it's at something like a restaurant and a guy wants to show you that he's making an effort, he'll buy a bottle to show he's not cheap etc etc. also could just be at home and letting her know he's willing to share his wine if she wants to have just a drink, or more. or maybe he could just try to get her drunk and make moves. not really enough info alone to judge drastically, it just seems like a normal line to me too.

No. 255545

>>255536
>I'm still uncertain on if he is trying to DTF or meetup.
I'd say ajdjdj just gooooo, if it gets hot etc then it does. If he doesn't seem like a fuckboy, then anything like that would come secondary to seeing how well you meshed together
just go and see if you click

No. 255555

>>255536
>he also slid in my dms very casually and isn't doing the classic /fuckboy/ style of sending fire emojis, liking my riskier selfies or being sexual.
That's the thing, from my experience men who hook up a lot never do this kind of stereotypical bullshit because they know most of women won't respond well to it. They're very nice and very interested in you and any kind of move happens IRL

No. 255563

>>255555
she's clearly never talked to a man before in her life, i can tell she's going to be played badly by this guy but whatever.

No. 255573

>>255475
True, I met several men who would freak out because "I don't know man she's just acting off I think she's cheating on men". They'd just distance themselves and start emotionally neglecting her instead of discussing it, 9 out of 10 times she wasn't cheating and it was actually him who was cheating. Accusing women of cheating constantly is also a top emotional abuse tactic used by men in order to make the woman desperate, begging for communication, or even isolate herself from situations that "make him feel like she is cheating" which is any sort of socialization to these males

No. 255574

>>255573
NTA but I saw this firsthand. Accusing women of cheating is retarded because when women cheat, men usually can't tell either.

No. 255586

>>255574
this is true because women usually aren't retarded with cheating (having unprotected sex, fucking his friend/family, trying to bed everyone that's nice to them, etc)

men don't even try to hide they're cheating like "oh imma disappear for a few days, don't worry about it" or just talk about the literal girl they cheat with to their SO kek, like ??? could you not make it more obvious

No. 255621

I don't want to risk losing a really close friendship, but this crush I have on this guy is tugging at me. It's been with me for a really long time, well over a year. Sometimes I just want to say fuck it life is short and I shouldn't have to wait around to find out, but I also want to hope things will turn for the better with time and say that things take time and rushing things is not good, because I've experienced both.
I haven't had such good chemistry with any other person, even with my ex. Three months ago we just talked together for nearly 7 hours, he was there to comfort me when I had moved out of my ex's apartment to an apartment of my own. Even yesterday we watched two films together. Even some of our long term online friends think we're married and just keeping it a secret from them, this has been a conspiracy of theirs for a while.
The thing is, he seems to be settling down with his high school sweetheart. I dislike the circumstance, which is why I'm having a hard time. I have a suspicion he's just going through the motions of what is expected, given recently he's made jokes about being reckless with his life, like drinking + driving and whispering "please don't let this be the breakup text" whenever she texts him when I'm talking to him.
Maybe I just need to be rejected by him and get over it and after that everything will be fine and dandy and I can move on.
I'm gonna talk to my best friend about this too, because she was in a kinda similar circumstance when she confessed to her now fiance. I mean, I have plenty of close friends, but I really, really enjoyed ours. Fuck, dude this sucks. I wouldn't have such a hard time doing this if I wasn't with my ex when we met before he got married, even better if he was also single. Maybe it's not meant to be. I just want to get this feeling over with and not be a fucking homewrecker.

No. 255644

>>255621
Sink or swim, anon. This dude's girlfriend doesn't deserve any of this, even if there's nothing physical or any verbal confirmation happening between you two; the fact your friends think you two are secretly married shows how messed up this situation is, and how hurt she would be if she found out. Confess to him and either he rejects you, commits to her fully and you end this friendship, or you get together and be happy forever after and that poor woman won't be led on anymore. Both scenarios involve someone getting hurt and someone becoming really happy, and I think it really should be resolved instead sitting for who knows for how long in this unhealthy limbo.

No. 255649

>>255644
Do NOT do this! Confessing to a guy with a gf will only paint you as a mistress/"whore" and he'll simply reject your because of that alone. Even if you get together, he'll think it's fine to do the same thing to you.

No. 255656

>>255644
I agree with this anon. Either way, you two can't remain friends. It's unfair to the girlfriend and to you. So either confess and move on, or end things now and let them be together peacefully.

No. 255660

>>255649
Honestly, i don't care if he thinks of me negatively after confessing to him, the friendship will be over, because who's he gonna tell? The friends who conspire about us being secretly married? even if things go in my favor and we do get together and he does the same, it'll be a learned lesson and I'll realize we are truly not meant for each other.
Life is short and >>255644 has a great perspective. I don't want to let this drag on in both of our ends, especially since he's committed.
I'm gonna risk it. I really am trying to keep my mind off him, but each guy that's interested in me I just and up measuring them up to him. The large possibility of me being rejected is the reassurance I need to mentally move on.

No. 255664

>>255660
Go for it, I'm glad that's your decision! No matter the outcome you'll be able to move forward with your life and it's really valuable.

No. 255766

>>255660
god damn you are stupid

No. 255804

Any other SSRI widows here? How do you deal with a partner with low/no sex drive and the rejection that comes with that?
I love him so much, I can't ask him to go off his meds because I'm horny… But I miss him. Even though he's healthier and more stable now, I miss him wanting me.

No. 255808

>>255804
You can ask him to get on Wellbutrin as well, it's commonly added to help with libido.

No. 255810

>>255660
You're just making excuses to justify something immoral.

No. 255814

>>255810
NTA but what do you propose as the moral choice here, anon staying friends with that guy?

No. 255825

>>255660
Hope he humiliates you. I had a dumb girl like you try to get with a guy I was dating, as a last resort she even sent nudes of her fat body and got blocked.

No. 255828

>>255825
At least I can handle rejection after communicating

No. 255835

>>255804
I've only ever been on the other side of this, my drive tanked initially and it was so much harder to finish but we made efforts to work on it. We brought new toys into things seeing as I was almost clit numb. Things got better but I went 7 months without an orgasm. We set time aside to cuddle and fool around lightly and the spark got going again with some work and.. heavy duty vibes.

Is your guy incapable of getting an erection altogether? Do you do other things? It's not unusual for people to request a change in meds if it's having that extreme of an affect on your intimacy.

No. 255844

from snooping through his phone i found out my boyfriend was still talking to his ex 2 months into us dating, also found out they were fucking and seeing eachother weekly right before we met. there has been no contact after we became official, but i still think i should break it off, am i overreacting?

No. 255873

>>255844
How long have you been dating? Are there other off things? If it’s a new relationship under a year or two I would right there or if you don’t think you can let it go I would break it off too.

No. 255908

>>255660
>I'm gonna risk it
If he really wanted to be with you, he would have done it by now. By doing what you're about to do you're homewrecking his relationship, encouraging him to think about you romantically and hurting yourself in the process. Learn to move on properly.

No. 255917

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i kind of don't know what to think about this. i need some advice cause i am worried.
so my bf and i were each other's firsts. he would get flustered (and still does) every time i got too close to touching his nipples. the other day i was trying to get him off with a handjob but he just wouldn't cum. we often experiment and try new things so i decided to start sucking on his nipple while i jerked him off. he was reluctant at first but he let me. he quickly got a lot of pleasure from it and he was able to cum. it was a really big orgasm too.
after that we were both kind of shocked from it? we kind of had an "oh shit" moment. he felt weird about what we did even though he really liked it. i asked him why and he said it was because of what he thought about during it. he was really embarrassed to tell me and he didn't want to until i promised i wouldn't make fun of him.
he said that during it, he told himself in his mind things like "yeah, you like that you little slut" and he said thinking of himself in that way felt feminine, thus embarrassing to him. because it's "something you tell a girl, not a guy." i reassured him i don't think negatively of him for liking it.
however, this is what i am worried about: if we continue to do this, could there be a chance he could troon out eventually? maybe i'm paranoid, but i really don't want to risk my relationship with him. i obviously don't want to be with a tranny. i don't want to jeopardize him being a normal man for some unconventional sex stuff just because we like some light femdom sometimes. i'm worried that sex acts like this will escalate to him wanting to try out actual weird or degenerate things. i'm not against the act of nipple play itself. i'm worried about if he's going to continue to have thoughts like that that will escalate.
idk, maybe i'm being dramatic but i don't have other sexual experience besides him. what should i do?

No. 255921

>>255908
I agree. I can't understand why some women can be willing to chase after men clearly disinterested in them while purposefully harming other women. Like yeah, he's going to turn her down and tell about it to his gf because that's what guy's do and then everyone in their circle will know. I'm assuming she's a neet who's not socially knowledgeable because of how she seemed to mention only "online friends" aside from him, she's going to wreck a good friendships for nothing.

No. 255931

>>255835
Thanks for your reply anon. Unfortunately he's been on it a few years so I don't think the side effect will wear off, it seems to be getting worse as we got out of the habit of having sex and basically live like roommates now.
I think he's still atracted to me because sometimes when I initiate he gets excited and acts like he wants me, but most of the time during sex he's pushing rope and can barely finish. Most of the time he rejects me and says he's tired and let's try tomorrow.
I'm going to bring it up with him but I'm very wary because obviously this will be a huge blow to his ego and "manhood" or whatever. It was such a struggle to get him help because he sees taking meds for mental health as a personal weakness. This will just solidify that thought. But hopefully spur him to try something new.. It worries me. But I just can't imagine living the rest of my life having sex 5 times a year. Even though he's an amazing life partner.

No. 255933

>>255917
>i don't want to jeopardize him being a normal man for some unconventional sex stuff
He was calling himself shit like "little slut", he's porn addicted, high chances of trooning out

No. 255935

>>255917
As long as he's not picturing himself as a woman, you're okay.
I think the biggest sign of impending troondom is porn and WKing troons, so try to investigate how he feels about gender bs as a whole. If he's a TRA you've got a problem. But if he knows troons are delusional, even if he's got some subby sissy streak in him, he'll be aware it's just a kink and not let it ruin his life and yours.

No. 255944

>>255935
yeah we've talked about trannies and the whole gender bullshit. he very much agrees with me that they're all delusional. he's also not terminally online either. he doesn't use social media. so that makes me worry less i guess.

No. 255947

>>255340
ME TOO OH MY GOD. All men do this fucking annoying thing they tease you even though you don't like it. Like yesterday my bf was saying something over me every time I tried to answer his question, he was joking around but GOD it's annoying. All men do it. It's hard to describe, me and my ex gf "bullied" each other all the time too but it was different somehow.

No. 255959

>>255947
>All men do this fucking annoying thing they tease you even though you don't like it
Nope, you're just dating immature boys. Mine banters with his friends but knows to never act that way with me because I don't like it. If your boyfriend annoys and insults you on purpose, it's not because he's a man, he just doesn't respect you.

No. 255967

>>255917
>he told himself in his mind things like "yeah, you like that you little slut" and he said thinking of himself in that way felt feminine, thus embarrassing to him. because it's "something you tell a girl, not a guy."
Uhhh. Not really the point of your post but can you take a moment to realize how fucked up and sexist that is please and thanks.

No. 255973

>>255844
I know it's hurtful but doesn't it prove that he's dedicated to you fully if he had no problem cutting all contact with a person he was so physically close with immediately after you became official?

No. 255980

>>255967
I like being called things like that during sex, each to their own anon

No. 255981

>>255804
>>255931
OK update I asked him about it, as expected he got really disheartened about it and said he wanted to get off the meds completely again. I had to tell him to talk to his doctor because he obviously needs help of some kind. He begrudgingly agreed but he's clearly not convinced.
I'm so scared he's going to try wean himself off Effexor again without supervision. Last time I was genuinely worried he'd an hero.
I feel really selfish and shitty now.

No. 255982

>>255980
Ýou're missing the point.

No. 255984

>>255844
were the messages 2 months into you guys dating of a romantic/sexual nature? Or was i just casual conversation

No. 255985

>>255982
I agree with you anon, but unfortunately things like that are so normalized that people don't get what's wrong with it. Tons of women see nothing wrong with being called a whore, slut and other worse things during sex

No. 255986

>>255660
So, how did it go?

No. 255991

>>255986
She probably got rejected since she didn't come here to deliver the news.

No. 255996

>>255985
I call my bf that shit too, goes both ways

No. 256000

>>255996
Two wrongs don't make a right

No. 256017

>>255991
I did in fact get rejected. He doesn't think our friendship needs to be affected. In return, I will simply think of him as in the closet. Funnily enough my first boyfriend who was also my best friend was gay so that frame of thinking isn't as absurd to me. Overall, it was nice to have the reassurance and I can now fully focus on finding an available man compatible for me.

No. 256031

>>256017
i don't mean to be mean but this post is hilarious.

No. 256037

>>256031
It's fine to laugh, my life has gotten me into weird ass situations before. it's funny to think about.

No. 256058

>>256017
You really shouldn't stay friend with him as if nothing happened. Messed up. Would you want your future partner to be friends with a woman who has a crush on him?

No. 256062

Think I’m going to have to break up with my bpd bf. We’re about to hit a year and he still can’t just hold me while I cry. I still just spend the entire time I’m upset alone while he tells me he cares and he’s here. No the fuck you aren’t. I’ve tried to explain it and talk to him over and over again and I’m just heart broken at this point. I don’t know what to do.

No. 256068

>>255917
I never got this. So if he played with your nipples would he think you're a slut? The fuck?

No. 256069

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>>1035019
I posted in one of the vent threads couple months ago (my boomer ass cant figure out how to link it) tldr my bf doesnt make me feel wanted sexually often as I would like.
Today we were watchin breaking bad and theres a scene where hank is paraplegic and marie is out running countless errands for him and being a good wife and it shows hank at home getting ready to watch porn. My bf was like "oh hank" in a disappointed way and we started talking about it and basically I ended up asking him if he ever watched porn when I wasn't around. He said he had but he was very embarrassed and whined for us to stop talking about it. I was surprised, not because of the porn but because he has been acting like his sex drive is low because of depression lately. We used to have sex almost every day with logistics permitting, but we maybe do once every two weeks now. I am and have always been upfront about my sexuality and I try to stay humble and just ask him for sex and to pursue me (as easily as I can without feeling like he's only doin g it for my sake). I try to be respectful of his lower sex drive so when he said that maybe once a month since weve been living together, he looks at porn I was like wtf. I dont feel like every sexual experience one has should be for your partner. But if I am essentially begging to be included in his sex life I don't like that he used porn and hid it from me. I even pointed out I could have provided the visual he needed like if I had made nudes and videos for him. But he said he wasnt considering his porn use to be serious enough to do anything like that and said he understands why Im offended but I dont really think he does.

Also shout out to nonnie who said I would be asking for breakup advice in a few months lol
I didnt believe it then.
As we left things currently, he pleaded with me to stop talking about the porn thing because hes too embarrassed to endure talking about it with anyone so I gave it a rest. But I still want to ask him more about it. He has never mentioned using or liking any type of porn whatsoever so Im hella curious about what he even watches. Also before anyone comes at me, I do assume that almost all men look at porn and I know theyre all degenerates but the reason my bf surprised me is because I literally used to make porn and have been very open with him in the past with what kind of porn I admire, the porn I like when I did use to watch porn (havent in years now) the kind of porn I used to make, offered him nudes or vids soooo many times, and was generally nonjudgemental about the whole porn subject. But he acted as if he had no interest, no preference toward it. So his deep shame I guess is more of the surprise to me. Which is also why Im hella suspicious of what he likes to watch.
Advice 'nons?

No. 256070

>>256062
Yes, you should leave. I tried making it work for years with my BPD ex and I'm not even in the BPDfags are the devil camp (though I would have a right to be) but unless they're putting in major work as in going to therapy, DBT workbooks, continual reflection and communication, they just won't improve. Ever. Even then it takes a lot of time. I totally understand the desire to help him get better but he's not the only person in the relationship. You deserve someone who can do basic things like supporting you and showing kindness. And there are people with BPD who can do this, but clearly he isn't one of them. You gave him chances and he's blown them. Time to turn all that care towards yourself. I'm sorry. I truly understand how shitty and difficult the situation is, but in any relationship where someone has a disorder or mental illness they need to be going out of their way to keep it under control or they shouldn't be with someone at all. It's cruel to say you love someone but then knowingly keep them in a relationship where you aren't meeting their needs. Saying this as someone with issues myself.

No. 256074

>>255917
Other anons have already hit on this, but if you know your bf is against trans stuff then it's more than likely just basic misogyny he's absorbed from porn and society at large. Saying this as a more dominant woman, a lot of men are embarassed about acting submissive and to them that encompasses a ridiculous amount of things. Many really basic, like making noise during sex. It's why you get so many retards who are dead silent and claim its "girly" to moan, because that's all they see in porn: the woman monotonously yowling nonstop while the man noiselessly pumps away. You can even tell them you think it's hot but for guys like that it's more important to maintain their mental security as someone society deems manly than to please you. Not worth your time. Same with nipple stuff. You basically never see women playing with guys' tits (which is a shame) but you do see it in reverse all the time. It's totally fine to like your nips being played with, they're sensitive and it can be vaguely submissive since you're giving your partner access to a fragile area. But there's nothing inherently troonlike about it. What's more of an issue is that your bf sees being submissive as a degrading and female thing like >>255967 said. Submission does not make someone weak, it does not require being called a slut, nor does it require a vagina. It can be a lot of fun for both parties, but for men all they hear from childhood onwards is that they're supposed to be in charge. To them sex is more about control than shared pleasure. Can he eventually break that view? Maybe. Just know you, a single person, are working against a lifetime of indoctrination.

No. 256076

>>256070
Thank you Noni. Currently crying and coming to terms. I have my own issues and have worked very hard not to take out on my partner and communicate and he makes me feel the way I used to but I know I can communicate now. His words and actions don’t line up and I get he cares but you’re right. There’s two people and he’s not meeting my needs.

No. 256078

>>256017
You're so pathetic it's hilarious, kek. He'll of course tell you your friendship won't be affected when it actually will. I want to be nice to you but being on the other part of the situation and knowing girls like you who try their hardest to "steal someone's man", it's hard.
>>256058
>believing that anon could secure an actual partner with her current views
That's a you problem.

No. 256081

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>>256076
I know it sucks at first but you will get through this! I hated that weird contradiction of being in a relationship yet feeling more alone than ever since my partner wasn't showing up for me like I was for him. Once you push through the initial sadness you'll be so relieved you don't have that hanging over you anymore. I'm proud of you for doing what's best for you. There are better things to come.

No. 256101

>>256078
You're… weirdly intense about this anon and her story. Why? Did you have something similar happen?

No. 256105

>>255967
>>256068
you two are both twisting things. firstly, he doesn't see me as a slut because he has played with my nips. i never once said that in my original post. and when he said "that's something you tell a girl, not a guy" it was only in the context of sex and dirty talk. i was the one who told him to call me things like "slut" as dirty talk ONLY, not him. if you don't like it that's fine. everyone has different kinks but it's not like he goes around calling me a slut all the time outside of the bedroom. thought these things were pretty obvious.

>>256074
it's just kind of weird. because he clearly has no problem when i'm more dominant. he has explicitly said he likes it. we often switch back and forth and we both enjoy it. he also isn't afraid to whimper or make noises so i don't get why the nipple thing bothered him specifically. maybe it's just because it's all new to him. maybe he'll eventually get over it.

No. 256119

>>256105
Thinking kinks and the thoughts behind those kinks mean absolutely nothing is extremely naive.
>i was the one who told him to call me things like "slut" as dirty talk ONLY, not him.
So? I'm not judging you for enjoying it. Matter of fact is a man who would call a woman a slut (even if she's the one who asks) is indicative of him not respecting women. Now you're seeing his weird reaction to you playing with his nipples, as if it's slutty and humiliating to enjoy it because only women have their nipples played with (in his dumb moid mind) and being feminine is the most humiliating thing he can experience. He may not troon out, but he'll continue to show small signs of misogyny which is just as bad honestly.

No. 256123

>>256119
you lack reading comprehension and you're twisting things about the situation that are not true. he never said playing with nipples is slutty or humiliating or only done to women. the ONLY thing he was embarrassed about was calling himself a little slut in his mind. the issue is about the little slut thing. not the act of nipple play itself. this is why I barely ask for advice on this site because some of you are so entangled by muh misogyny you start making shit up. read my post again.

No. 256126

>>256123
I think its fine anon I have a friend and she literally drunk admitted to all of us at the bar that she sucks on her bfs nipples and he's one of our close friends and works in construction. He's a proper mans man but I guess just enjoys different sensations in the bedroom, doesn't seem like he'll troon out at all. My ex even loved his butthole played with, true I can understand how that might scare someone but many years later he seems like the same man I knew back then. Honestly I wouldn't worry about it anon, only start worrying about it if he starts asking to be dicked down constantly and starts watching gay shit online. The 'little slut' thing just seems like porn talk and bullshit he's been exposed to in porn in the past.

No. 256141

>>256123
maybe if no one can understand you it's because you can't fucking write. and your bf is a misogynist

No. 256149

>>256141
not everyone wants to be called 'ma'am' and 'dear' during fucking sex missionary anon calm down

No. 256152

>>256149
NTA but why would you want to be insulted by your own bf in the first place? Kind of sounds like low self-esteem..

No. 256156

>>256123
He's not going to troon out. Ignore anons that you feel like are baiting or continue to misunderstand.

No. 256173

>>256152
If my bf called me """slut""" while fucking I would simply kill him on the spot with my own two hands sorry for reposting farmhand, I'm retarded

No. 256174

>>256101
I wrote above and yes I did. I thought a girl was my friend and although I knew she liked the guy i was with, didn't think she'd make a move. Then he told me she sent him nudes and blocked her afterwards. I did see their messages and stuff and he always rejected her advances but she kept reaching out, he'd tell me about the stuff she did as she did, I felt so shitty because she ended our friendship over a guy who wasn't even into her to start with. She also blamed me afterwards and said they'd have been so good if I wasn't in the picture and got into his mind or something.

I've also had another friend attempt to steal another chronically ill girl's bf and when I told her it wasn't a good idea, she cut me out and painted me as the bad guy. Afterwards of course she saw I was right because he picked his gf over my friend.

It angers me when some women willingly fuck up other women's relationships and claim it's out of some pure love. Chasing after a dude who's not into you sad is sad enough on its own but it's even worse when he clearly loves another woman.

No. 256175

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Nonas I keep wanting to send a friendly meme to a recent ex (only dated for like three weeks) even though he sent me quite a nasty last message. I dumped him and he was upset. I genuinely think we'd make good friends because we were very romantically incompatible but had a load of same interests.
I know it's a bad idea but I keep ruminating over wanting to make contact for like a week now. Would it make me seem really desperate? I think his last message was more upset at a breakup than at me. I gave him almost three weeks of NC so he'd get over it.
I just feel really bad about it ending so shitty. He's younger so I'm not sure he's mature enough for it to end on good terms…
I know I shouldn't make any contact but I keep thinking about it all the time. I mean what's the worst that can happen? He can tell me to fuck off/not reply so nothing will change or we can be a bit friendlier… I can't really lose any dignity because we don't have any common friends or anything. Or maybe I'm just too lonely and should piyr this energy into finding someone else… What should I do?

No. 256176

>>256175
Unpopular opinion probably but I believe its not impossible to be friends with exes, not in this case though where he already shown he can be nasty to you. Pointless waste of time, better invest in finding better, new friends.

No. 256177

>>256149
Have fun with his escalating perversions. Hope he never starts getting the tingles for strangulation

No. 256178

>>256173
Insanely based take

No. 256179

>>256175
Leave it alone, it's not a friendship worth pursuing because they're will always been an imbalance of power. He will always be able to make you feel guilty over dumping him. Besides it's a meme, hardly something you absolutely must contact him about? You're thinking about him because of your guilt, and imaging how you can remedy that (let's be friends!! see I'm not a bitch!!) but it won't, you need to get over it and move on. You did nothing wrong, you dumped the moid for a reason. Make friends with people you haven't been emotionally, sexually and romantically intimate with.

No. 256180

Should I ask this guy out? The issue is that he is a TA for my class. He is the same age as me and we have similar interests. He knows who I am and we have had a couple awkward conversations. I think he likes me back because he will keep making eye contact with me. The problem is that I don't know when I should do it. Another problem is I don't have his personal contact information so I'd either have to ask him out over zoom office hours or over email.
The reason I am considering asking him out is because I feel like he wouldn't ask me out because he is a TA and wouldn't want to risk anything because of the power dynamic as he could get in trouble.
If I ask him out over email it would be after the semester is over and final grades are in. My reservations over this method are that it is cringe and he could just not check his email for a long time. I also think no response is worse than a no.
My reservations over asking him out during office hours are that it is over zoom and that is also pretty cringe. Also the fact that it would be before the semester is over.
I don't know what I should do or if I should do it. But I feel like if I don't I will regret it

No. 256185

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>>256179
>>256176
Thanks, I needed someone to tell me that.
I think it's because we texted constantly before and I am missing that now, coincidentally I have been mostly at home studying and playing vidya which made me feel lonely. But he was always acting 'playfully' shitty to me and I wouldn't wanna date him, shame we had unbelievably similar niche interests, I feel like it's such a waste. He really fucked it up with me. Hope I can stop ruminating over it soon or else I'm gonna go crazy.

No. 256190

>>256180
do not do this, and definitely do not use your university email to ask him out. it sucks, but unless you can do this in person it really is not worth the risk. even then, asking your TA out right after the semester is weird as hell (yes I've done it and I definitely regret it). your best bet is to wait til in-person things open up where you are and run into him at the campus pub or something but i'm sure there are other, more available guys who also share your interests around because men are by nature replaceable kek

No. 256203

i get so much secondhand embarrassment reading posts about women justifying their owns boyfriends calling them whores/sluts/etc during sex lol… imagine being such a pathetic low life that 1) you let anyone call you that 2) you let your own PARTNER call you that 3) you justify his terrible behaviour 4) you don't consider it terrible that it would even occur in his brain to call you words like that while you're having sex
jesus christ get some self esteem

No. 256221

>>256203
This. I want a man who would rather kill himself than insult me in any way, I get furious every time a scrote says shit like "cunt/slut/whore" so why the fuck would I want to hear that while making out? Women are inherently more valuable than 99% of the male population, men are the actual whores and should be treated as such

No. 256231

>>256203
It's just dirty talk, don't be such a bore. What else would you want? There's nothing exciting about being told all the things I already hear outside of sex, and it's better than him not saying anything.

No. 256236

>>256231
It's possible to dirty talk without degrading your partner.

No. 256237

>>256231
As long as there is a balance where he calls you a little slutty whore and in turn you call him a limp dicked pathetic bitch during sex, it's fair game. Actually, perhaps inventing new insults would spice up the bedroom.

No. 256238


No. 256239

>>256236
This
But also this >>256237
Someone please call their bf this during sex and report back.

No. 256243

>>256231
So instead of him telling how wet and sexy you are. How good you feel. How you guys fit together well. How the way you sound turns him on or anything that values you as person you think being called a degrading and dehumanizing name is the only dirty talk. Girl your boyfriends dick game and sex game is a joke.

No. 256245

>>256203
I agree. There are plenty of ways to dirty talk without calling your girlfriend names. Note how it's always one-sided too…when do you ever hear women call their boyfriends degrading names during sex if it's not femdom? It never happens, yet for some reason we're expected to be happy to be called sluts and whores.

>>256231
Your boyfriend must be terrible in bed if that's what he, and you, consider dirty talk. There's so many other things you can say that don't involve calling women the same shit we're insulted with every day. Stop calling people bores just because they want to be treat with respect during sex you weirdo.

No. 256251

This name-calling talk reminds me of when a guy called me a "fucking slut" mid-sex once (without us discussing whether I was comfortable with that or not) and I told him to not call me that and he laughed. I just stood up, got dressed and left.

No. 256254

>>256203
>>256243
>>256245
there's nothing that triggers the average lolcow user more than a woman with a preference that's outside their brand of feminisim. a woman can like one thing out of the ordinary conventional sex and all of a sudden she's a sex weirdo degenerate and her moid WILL abuse her. consent doesn't matter at all to you people. poor little meek women have no autonomy after all. keep your projections to yourselves. lmao

No. 256256

>>256251
Well done. What a scummy scrote.

No. 256257

>>256254
How about you stop promoting the beating and mistreatment of other women to fuel your self hatred enough to be objectified so you can feel sexy? Sucks for you that you have to only view your own sexuality through the twisted lens of your want to be wife beater, couldn’t be me. But then I have a double xx and more than two brain cells.

No. 256258

>>256254
I think there's an important distinction between "allowing" a man to do kinky shit to you and doing kinky shit because it arouses you. A lot of women get coerced into kink so its understandable that anons are concerned for women who may or may not actually enjoy being called a slut in bed.

No. 256263

>>256203
One of my exes used to call me a slut even though I'd only ever been with him. He'd been with more than 15 people. Hilarious looking back. Proud of myself for eventually telling him to stop even though at the time porn was normalized in my mind and supposedly liberating. As an adult now I see how degrading and repulsive it is. I can only roll my eyes at women (and men) like >>256254 who can't remotely fathom how sex couldn't be boring without being degraded and objectified. Porn has nothing to do with "sex positivity" because it is nothing like real sex should be. Mutual pleasure, bonding, fun, exploration. People like that don't understand how deeply satisfying "vanilla" sex can be, and I have done more unusual things outside of that, but without being treated like a cumsock. Definitely recommend.

No. 256267

>>256254
you know you just out yourself by posting shit like this, right?

I'm yet to have a legit answer as to why the fuck some women would want to be called misogynistic names in bed if not for the fact that:
1. they enjoy being called it because they've seen it in porn and think it's kinky or empowering, or
2. they let their boyfriend do it because they think he will consider her "boring and vanilla" otherwise

I fell into both those categories in my teens and I thought it was normal. It wasn't a "preference" it was years of being subtly taught you had to be the kinkiest, coolest most experimental girl around or your boyfriend would just end up fucking someone else. I'm not gonna call girls "degenerates" for doing it but I also think they should certainly reassess why they enjoy being called misogynistic shit we get called every day. It just doesn't make sense to me.

No. 256268

>>256254
>you people
>average lc user
Not this bullshit again.

No. 256270

>>256257
>I am an adult who consents to some name calling as dirty talk in the context of the bedroom only. I genuinely like it. I initiated it.
>average retard on here: so you're promoting beating women??? why do you hate yourself????

you need to be at least 18 to post here. lmao

>every woman that disagrees with me must actually be a moid

how feminist of you.

stay in school and get therapy. take your meds.

No. 256271

>>256267
out myself as what exactly? as a moid?? I don't care if you think I'm actually a moid cause I'm not. I'm still gonna post whatever I want.
I just like some name calling in bed because I just like it. that's it. but apparently that's not enough for a woman to be left alone with her own preference. you desperately want to find a deeper meaning that's not applicable in every situation regarding name calling in bed, because you need to project your own shitty experience. maybe the actual problem is that you shouldn't have been having sex as a teenager in the first place because you were too young to know what you actually wanted.

No. 256273

>>256271
Homie I’m going to level with you. If you accidentally use a cactus as a dildo I don’t care. If you want to let your shitty white trash dude piss on your face and call you a cum slut as you desperately lick his asshole for validation be my guest but not all of us are victim blaming porn sick retards.

No. 256275

>>256273
neither me or my bf are white. lmaooo you cannot stop projecting in order to actually have a conversation.

name calling as dirty talk does not equate to physical violence. get a better argument.

No. 256276

>>256273
KEK love you anon

No. 256277

>>256275
no one is calling it physical violence kek

No. 256281

>>256275
So he’s the stereotype of even more derooted misogyny where he’d rather join the white men and demean you then side with women. cool story tell me more

No. 256282

>>256281
I'm assuming you're a self hating white girl judging how you view the world as "sides". not one woc cares about your woke performance and it does nothing to help us. get help. lmao

No. 256283

>>256185
>>256175
Just how nasty did he get in the message?

I feel like something falling through after 3 weeks is just a failure to launch. It's a non thing, an alomst thing lol. I've been there, I was young and took it with my dignity intact because.. how much of a fuss can you make after a few weeks? Imo it says alot about someone if they're sending the same nasty break up texts that you'd get after a proper relationship ends when it wasn't really a relationship yet and was more of a 'failure to even get started' type of situation. Yeah I'd be wary of someone after that. At minimum it shows you emotional maturity and self restraint aren't his strengths right now. And those are 2 things that help when you're staying friends with an ex/almost ex.

No. 256288

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No. 256289

>>255981
Anon it's entirely reasonable to ask your partner to talk to their doc/prescriber about what options would help with sexual side effects. Docs do this all the time because meds having a significant effect on that area of life isn't considered something you have to just tolerate along with your long term partner riding it out permanently. Docs get that. You're not an asshole. His reaction to you bringing this up sounds more flippant than anything else. He might be sick but sick people act childish sometimes and this almost sounds like him trying to worry you by going to an extreme and talking about quitting full stop. He has to have known you werent requesting that.

Tbh it's concerning that your currently medicated partner is still so quick to react flippantly like that and to make you feel responsible for his feelings and then guilty for finally facing an ongoing issue he has to have known about. Is he unwell right now? Is he just throwing his weight around to make you feel bad and drop the topic?

Anyone with years of experience on meds like that (been there) knows that it's slow going when it comes to getting on meds or coming off them.. switching them is slow too. What you're asking for here is probably a switch or add-on but it's all slow and steady. Surely he would already know that? And it needs to be supervised, always. That all goes without saying. Threatening to just go off meds is a hell of a reaction to a perfectly reasonable request you made. That paired with you saying he's done similar in the past and you thought he'd kill himself.. anon is this a great life partner or any way for you to have to live?

No. 256290

>>256270
>>256275
Why do you keep mentioning beatings and violence, you're the only one bringing that up

No. 256291

>>256282
nta but if you think only white people view the world in terms of "sides," then you are fully retarded

No. 256298

>>256288
I really don't care if im getting "kink shamed" I just don't like it when people project their own experiences and biases on to me. and act like they know what's best for me.

>>256290
I'm literally getting accused of promoting violence. I'm not the one who brought it up. of course I'm gonna defend myself when I'm getting words put in my mouth. can none of you actually read?

this is why I can't fuck with white feminists. you make everything about yourselves and want to think for all women. you bring up your own race at any chance when it doesn't involve it because your self hate is that bad. you're all fucking retarded.

No. 256299

>>255844
If he lied to you about the timeline of him and hs ex then I'd consider that enough to call it quits. If the messages 2 months in were still flirty or sexual, same thing.

What made you snoop? Did you have a have a bad feeling?

No. 256300

>>256298
My friend you keep screaming about whites now so who’s projecting? This is anon board. You need to take your meds and chill. If you were this solid in it and your relationship you would have fucked off by now.

No. 256301

>>256298
not every single person you're responding to is white lol

No. 256307

>>256254
>>256231
imagine something going this terribly wrong in your sexuality that you think people are "boring" for being weirded out by getting verbally degraded during sex lol… i couldn't imagine being so mentally ill

No. 256313

>>256300
so I can be practically gaslit about promoting violence but I can't point out someone sounds like a self hating white when it was THEM who brought up race out of left field? lmao k. take your own advice. you don't need meds, you need an entire institution. lmao
I'll post whatever I want. I'm bored at work and it's a slow day. if you don't like what I'm saying, you can be the one to fuck off.

>>256307
the post about being a bore isn't mine. I actually think it's fine if ppl don't like it and it doesn't make anyone anything. we all have our own reasons for our preferences. wish I got the same treatment. but that's fine. was fun arguing with yall even though half of you suck at it.

No. 256314

>>255935
Yeah that reminds me of my online ex. It all started with him having a kink of being fucked with a dildo which led him to want to be fucked by a woman with a strap-on. He then started to wear his mom's panties because he liked the feeling of it and he wanted to wear my outfits/buy him cute dresses to "fuck him in". He did try to experiment with a guy before but he didn't enjoy it, he's probably bisexual tho.

No. 256333

>>256313
>gaslit
When you sound like this much of a twitterfag it time to stop

No. 256336

>>256313
Are you calling him used up community dick who's been rode hard and put away wet in bed or is he getting all the fun?

No. 256349

This debate ought to end already or we're in for another week of who's right tennis.

No. 256399

I got broken up with about a month ago. I've actually been doing pretty great just working and taking care of myself. I went on a tinder date for the first time in 2 years and had a blast. We texted for almost a week and he told me good morning everyday and to send him just normal cute pics of me while I was at work. We even video chatted prior to meeting and he was funny and super chill. The date was a lot of fun and he was really respectful. We hooked up and he had a huge dick which was new to me but the sex was great. It's been about a week since we met and we've texted a bit here and there but he's not as responsive as usual and doesn't say good morning anymore. I had some downtime at work the other day and messaged him if he still wanted to cook for me sometime like he said. He said yes and if drinks were on me again. I said sure and then he asked me if I can help him find a part time job. I said I'll look around and he said thanks and then called me hot. He hasn't said shit since. Am I trippin or are these red flags? Like I am very confused. Wtf is happening? I just wanted a hook up and now i feel like a temp agent. Still wanna fuck him again though…

No. 256400

>>256399
So he was only being so nice to get in your pants. So typical. And now he's being distant and low effort after you guys had sex. Girl, don't fuck him again.

No. 256406

>>256399
Never sleep with them on first five or so dates. I learnt the hard way, the Madonna/whore shit runs deep in men.

No. 256412

>>256411
Technically you're not in relationship with this guy, if you have so much anxiety about it (and frankly, from February to now it's been a while so it's time), you really should have a conversation about your relationship status though. Free access to his phone is already a very good sign, and, as you say he talks to you very often and you can see he's not very active on whatsapp meaning whoever that person is, he's not messaging her much. For all you know, this could be a family member, or a coworker, or just a colleague from the past. As of now, there are no big reasons to worry; don't be afraid to be straightforward with him and just ask about things that make you concerned, as long as you're not accusing him of anything,; any decent person would reassure you it's ok, not get angry.

No. 256442

>>256412
Honestly, I don't have the guts to ask him. I did ask him 3 dates in and he said that it was too early. I'm just telling myself that the fact that he hasn't brought it up yet means it's a no. Like why would a guy that likes someone let that person be "on the market" so to speak? Idk, feels like if I was another woman he'd jump on the opportunity. Feels like I'm just a placeholder or something. I saw his instagram and he follows women that look nothing like me. His ex looks like these women too, type-wise. I've never been in a relationship before so I have no idea what's going on. Is there another way to find out without directly asking?

No. 256445

>>256442
No anon, being proactive and communicating clearly is the best course of action in any relationship, romantic or not; sneaking behind someone's back, assuming things and waiting until something happens or not is a recipe for disaster. Let's say he actually is not interested: do you prefer to know this now or in few months when you'll become even more invested?
As it comes to "type", I know it can be upsetting but people have various types they like. It woudln't be out of ordinary at all for him to be really attracted to you even if he's shown interest in different looking women before.

No. 256523

My boyfriend has always been very nerd adjacent as his friends are all into IT and shit but he for the most part is just a regular old working electrician… But he's not completely oblivious to e-culture etc. and lately for the first time ever he has been playing video games with people online and more specifically he has been playing final fantasy online with a GIRL he met playing Overwatch. I don't play video games and he has asked me to before. They only play like 2 times a week or whatever and I'm sure it's innocuous but this is really terrifying me as I feel like it is inevitably going to turn into some kind of online cheating/attraction thing I just know it. Do I even say anything as technically right now he has literally done nothing wrong but I just feel like we all know where this shit leads especially in 2022.

No. 256527

>>256523
Do you know anything about her nona? Both of those games are popular with women. I don't know anything about your boyfriend or his intentions to gauge whether your reaction is appropriate or not, but you should find out if she has a boyfriend or husband. I'd say the chances are like 50/50 that any random player he meets on those games would be women so the fact that he's befriended a girl from those games isn't alarming in and of itself. I would be more concerned if he felt a need to privatize this relationship from you or ignored your needs and wants to spend time with this woman instead just because she plays games. If you really believe he's going to cheat you should just dump him and not wait for it to happen. At some point your moid will interact with women and if you can't trust him to not make it sexual or romantic then your moid is probably trash tbh.

No. 256535

So my libido is currently almost zero and it's really fucking up my relationship. My bf has a very high sex drive, and ends up trying to initiate sex at least once or twice a day. We usually have sex about once a week. He definitely doesn't try to force me (I tried to force myself one time, he could tell and it did not go well)
I am working on fixing my mental issues and trying to get a normal libido back, but in the meantime we are living in an r/deadbedrooms post where interactions are awkward because he doesn't want to get horny and rejected, I'm feeling guilty for hurting him and worsening my mental state, and I can feel the strain I'm causing. I definitely can't "fake it till I make it" either… Any ways to actually raise my libido? Because even though he's the most patient and understanding moid I've ever dated it's the only way to save the relationship at this point

No. 256549

>>256527
He has basically never made me feel insecure or come even remotely close to flirting with other women, let alone doing anything more. But that's because he has no female friends or acquaintances he maintains except for being polite with some of the girls he works with. Which is kind of why I'm really worried. I liked it that way and I feel like that's way it should be. Men and women are supposed to have sex which is why they enter into relationships - so they can do that. I really have a hard time imagining ongoing friendships between men and women that exist independently of like a couples/group circle setting.

I have no desire to befriend any men whatsoever and that has always been true for him as well (for women), so this is really unusual. I have asked him about her but he said he has no idea about her at all like her personal life or whatsoever and said they pretty much have a temporal relationship that is based exclusively on when they are playing final fantasy so just talking about the game or other random shit blah blah. And I believe him too… it's just that obviously sounds like fun, they're just shooting the shit and getting along and between men and women I really honestly feel that can only evolve into one thing.

No. 256551

>>256549
I really don't know how to respond to this but this whole
>Men and women are supposed to have sex which is why they get into relationships
I mean I'm all for it if you only want to be friends with women and you're certainly within your right to set boundaries with your partner. But this is not some all encompassing fundamental truth about male-female relationships. Again I don't wanna cape for him because I really don't know if that's how he is but it's definitely possible for friendships to exist between men and women with no sexual attraction to ever develop whatsoever. Some people just enjoy the company of people with the same hobbies and don't care about the other person's sex because they're repulsed by them anyway and/or are monogamous. And I hardly think that sex is all that coupling is about. At any rate my advice for you would be to just set this boundary for your relationship because it's not like I'm going to change your worldview nor do I particularly want to. Because at the end of the day your relationship should go according to your terms. If you're not comfortable with him having female friendships, tell him he needs to call it off. If it's not a big deal as he says then he should have no trouble giving it up and having only male friends.

No. 256555

>>256314
Sounds like a faggot
>>256411
You're over reacting, chill out. If he had shit to hide from you on his phone he wouldn't just hand you his phone.
>>256399
>Am I trippin or are these red flags?

Yes
>>256523
Dude's not cheating on you with video game bitch.
>>256549
>Men and women are supposed to have sex which is why they enter into relationships - so they can do that.

That's retarded.

>I really have a hard time imagining ongoing friendships between men and women that exist independently of like a couples/group circle setting.


Yes this is possible.

No. 256558

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>>256555
Checked

No. 256560

>>256535
Why do you have no sex drive? Did you have a higher drive at some point? None of us can really say what will fix this for you without knowing what caused it in the first place. But neither you nor he should stay in a relationship where your libidos are so mismatched. Still, 1-2x a day is a lot. Studies show the average adult couple has sex once a week, so you are normal and he is kind of a nympho. Very few couples have sex that often past the initial few months of a relationship, if only because they have actual responsibilities and shit to do other than banging all day. Why is it on you to get in the mood more often instead of him just jacking off and more fully appreciating the times he can actually be with you?

No. 256579

>>256399
> hooked up
> he's not as responsive as usual and doesn't say good morning anymore
>He said yes and if drinks were on me again
I feel like you're rebounding and settling for less here because of that. He got easy sex, he now even expects you to pay for the alcohol when you go back to give him easy sex again. That's kind of a bad deal. Imo this is some no-strings shit and by no means dating. If the dick is big and worth it and you're happy to do that.. I'd at least argue that you being expected to supply the alcohol is still him taking the piss. He's getting a good deal and still testing you by wanting you to pay for shit. Oh and he can do his own job search.

No. 256582

>>256442
>>256411
>Like why would a guy that likes someone let that person be "on the market" so to speak
I feel like this might explain why
>I'm introverted and I hate confrontation
I'm introverted to an extent that's kinda isolating, like you I often can't do phone calls either. ime guys tend to feel pretty fucking comfy in the fact that you won't exactly run off with someone else while you're like that. It puts no pressure on them to make up their minds and it leaves you in a shit situation if they're obviously more outgoing and you're stuck worrying about that. It's good that you haven't slept with him yet. Don't sleep with him while this is still up in the air and uncertain.

It's one of those situations where even if you arent typically assertive or one to confront people… you need to channel that evergy every now and then to get answers for yourself. Pick your moments and get vocal. He needs to see that while you're quiet by nature you're also capable of confronting an issue if he starts messing you around or dragging this out.

No. 256586

has anyone ever been in a situation where you feel like your partner loves you more than you love them

No. 256587

>>256586
I felt like that in both of my relationships BUT it was because love for me is a slow thing that builds whereas they felt it very quickly. Tbh in time things reversed, my love built and theirs dwindled with me being dumped both times. I'd love to feel an equal match sometime.

How long are you together though? What does your 'graph of love level' look like overall? Did it start out high and fall or

No. 256591

>>256445
>>256582
You guys are right. I met him today and I could not for the life of me get the words out. It got awkward when we were in his car. I made a joke about how his car is the love of his life, and he laughed and put on some country song about a guy falling for a woman He kept being affectionate (we do kiss and cuddle) and we had coffee together and he kissed me in front of people. I also saw him use his phone and Tinder is no longer on his phone. I will definitely have to ask next time we meet as you guys have explained. Thanks for the advice nonnas.
>>256582
I told him pretty early on that I wasn't seeing any more guys other than him.

No. 256608

>>256586
How do you discern that?

No. 256626

I want to do something sweet and sappy for my boyfriend. Any ideas? He doesn't like stuff like cologne in case you are going the traditional romantic route.

No. 256629

>>256626
picnic in the park or on the beach on a nice sunny day?

No. 256640

>>256586
Usually in the beginning that's how I felt, mainly due to me trying not to overstep my boundaries.

No. 256711

Help me. I’m not exactly in a relationship with this guy but we would talk loads and had met up where we were intimate but still spoke afterwards for about a week but now he’s decided because it’s Ramadan he’s going to be a “good boy” (eyeroll) so our messages decreased. He messaged me to apologise for the late reply on Sunday and asked how I was but then didn’t read my response, hes still online a lot and tonight I looked and his snapchat score (lol) is going up and up. I want to just message him forget it bye and then block him or am I being crazy? I thought at first maybe he feels he can’t control himself talking with me so has decided to distance himself during ramadan but now I just think that’s an excuse he’s made so he can ghost me. Should I cut him off? Wait? What do I do?

No. 256714

>>256711
why would he decrease talking to you during ramadan lol… is it haram to talk to women? LMAO

No. 256716

>>256714
YES lmfao unless married it’s against their religion and especially bad during ramadan. It’s dumb because basically they are trying to trick god for a month then go back to their “sinful” lives after. Whilst google agrees this may be the case my gut is telling me that it’s just convenient timing.

No. 256717

>>256711
>>256716
It sounds like he didn’t have a problem being intimate with you before (pretty sure that’s a big no-no) but now that it suits him to adhere to his religion, he’s willing to drop you like a bad habit. That’s pretty damn hypocritical already and telling of his priorities. People like that tend to think they themselves are above the rules while holding everyone else to an impossible standard. I would just stop talking to him, nothing irks me more than religious hypocrisy.

No. 256718

>>256717
He’s definitely a hypocrite and I agree with you, considering he was mentioning about waiting to see me after ramadan for more haram hanky panky like if god existed that’s ok and god wouldn't know he’s planning future sins. To be honest that should be telling of his character, a deceitful sneaky prawn who if willing to do that to his powerful god then there is no chance in hell he will be any different with me. It’s so hard to just ghost because I always feel the need to give a dramatic exit, is it a bad idea to text bye?

No. 256720

>>256718
Block him without a word, he doesn't deserve your energy. He WILL reach out to you again begging for another chance at coochie, don't give it to him. Consider it a silver lining that he showed his true values before you guys got serious. Many muslim men will fool around with non-muslim women for years and then drop them to marry a muslim woman.

No. 256721

>>256718
I live around muslims and these types are the most annoying. Like, girl, are you okay with him just abandoning you a whole month every year? Just say you don't think it will work out like this.

No. 256723

>>256711
>>256718
Ah man anon, I just ended something recently with a Muslim guy (for this and general stuff. Looking past religion wasn't worth it for the general incompatibility). Was just thinking today what >>256721 said about no kisses for a month out of the year. Religion has never existed in my life so it's just nonsensical to adhere to it needlessly. Since it was integral to his life he saw it as no big deal, but to an outsider it's a culture shock for sure.

Good luck ending things. Sorry it's like this, it definitely sucks.
It's not even Islamophobia since continuing to engage with them is what actually goes against their beliefs. You can maybe say you want to be respectful of him. Or just be mean lmao it's on you.

No. 256733

>>256718
I agree with the other anon, you don’t owe him any energy. I would just block him without a word. You’ve already tried to talk to him and he hasn’t replied (or has barely replied). He’s not your boyfriend or anything. Even if you tell him you don’t like being ignored because he suddenly wants to act all pious, a guy who is really into you wouldn’t do that to begin with. It’s more likely he would just act indignant and accuse you of not understanding his religion or some shit. Just not worth it. Someone who really likes you doesn’t give mixed signals.

No. 256740

>>256733
>>256723
>>256721
>>256720
Thank you, I’m just trying to psyche myself up to do the block on everything — Like telling myself in all honesty we aren’t very compatible.

I agree there is a culture shock, he “moved back in” with his parents. I suggested maybe staying over one time in the future and he said “oh I don’t know what excuse I will be able to make to my parents” then it was after midnight he saw the time and panicked he needed to drive home because it was late and heaven forbid his parents ask where he’s been. He’s 27 years old but it felt like I was grooming a minor. He also asked me to not smoke or drink in my own home too whilst he was around but sitting on his face however was the only haram he would tolerate. I think now I’m just going to avoid dating men who claim to be muslim, a decent muslim man by their own standards would already be settled down and married not on dating apps and having inappropriate relations etc, by his own beliefs he is morally bankrupt. Wish me luck

No. 256741

>>256711
He's seeing you like a free whore like how all muslim men see women that sleep with them. For future stuff, any anons reading this should NEVER EVER sleep with muslim men before marriage. Tell him you're a virgin, doesn't matter if it's a lie, only then he will treat you like a human being and even like a princess but when you sleep with him, it's over.
I feel bad for all the women who went through this but to be fair, being a westerner and deciding to date a misogynistic Muslim man and allow him to use you means you did kind of deserve it. What were you hoping? These guys all have muslim gfs that don't sleep with them so they fool around with other girls.

No. 256747

>>256740
He's such a typical muslim fuckboy, I can see his mommy folding his clothes and doing his laundry right in front of me. These dudes are better off dating other muslims, because they sort of 'get it'. And you deserve better than this manbaby.

No. 256750

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>>256741
With all due respect he come across as a westernised e-boy initially, I didn’t realise he would go full jihadkebab on me. I was a bit iffy about him being a muslim but thought to myself would I prefer a respectful (top kek) man who may go mosque on a Friday or a man who is out drinking on a Friday hooking up with girls ~insert clown emoji~ feel free to laugh at me. Whilst I agree with your point, my naive considerations deserve some pity. If western men weren’t scummy cumbrain disappointments too this probably could have been prevented.

>>256747
That’s the catch though isn’t it, they can’t date other muslims without marrying. They need a harem of western whores and a virgin wife Khadijah to settle with.

No. 256752

>>256750
>they can’t date other muslims without marrying
Lol, they do? I know many of these dudes (sadly) and they date and have sex with muslim girls too. I meant they'd get it because they have the same type of parents. Though they always carry a reputation with them, kek.

No. 256753

>>256747
>these men should be dating other muslims
They're already fucking over, beating and killing Muslim women. Way worse than what they do to western women but since you probably don't care about brown women, you'd think they deserve it for simply being born muslim.
>>256750
Anon I'm not blaming you but you should research people's culture and beliefs better the next time. You would've seen girls post similar experiences with Muslim men if you bothered to look it up which I do understand you might not have thought was that big of a deal sincere you've never had a similar experience but nevertheless, muslim men are known to be misogynistic and twofaced like most men from underdeveloped extremist countries.
I'm mad that these men get to play two women at once, imo no woman should give them time of their day because those men really are worthless.
I hope you'll meet someone who who will actually value you and treat you the way you deserve to be treated.

No. 256755

>>256750
In my experience religious men will see you as worthless if you sleep with them while dating. They aren't 'good' or more calm and gentlemanly, they are even worse than progressive atheist coomers, at least that's how it was for me. Religious men are sexist assholes who don't even try to hide or are ashamed of their sexism like non-religious men trying to date you tend to be. They will always be self-righteous about (especially non-virgin) women being inferior because they think that's God's word and it's inherently true.

No. 256759

>>256753
>since you probably don't care about brown women, you'd think they deserve it for simply being born muslim.
Nta but that's clearly not what anon meant. Nice purposely reading into something for the sake of getting mad

No. 256760

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>>256753
I literally am a brown (ex)muslim woman living in a muslim country. It's a meme here where couples like, block each other on social media and stuff during ramadan, it's very stupid but it's a thing.

No. 256761

>>256760
Where are you from? I'm turkish and never heard of that.
>>256755
This. The key is to never sleep with them. They all have a madonna whore complex.

No. 256763

Philosophical question, totally asking for a friend: If you or a partner are jealous and insecure about themselves, have been cheated on before, and are jealous of your/their past relationships, is it toxic to ask to look through your/their phone messages or prevent you/them from seeing friends affiliated with exes or that could be potential romantic interests? Even if there is no history of cheating? Is it wrong to humor this kind of behavior or is it wrong to say no to you/them at the expense of your/their feelings being hurt and your/their insecurities worsening?
Sorry for the awkward phrasing but I'm trying to phrase this as neutrally as possible just so there are no defined sides of who is in whose shoes so there's no immediate bias. I still can't figure it out.
But I'm leaning towards this being unhealthy

No. 256766

>>256763
1. You need to be at least 18 to post here
2. Dump him
3. Get therapy
If you're that insecure about this, you're not in any position to be in a relationship. Even worse if he's contributing to your anxiety by suspecting you of cheating or sneaking around on you.

No. 256767

>>256766
Alright nonnie what did I even say that made me sound underaged? Does saying toxic make me a twitterfag? Or does the no-shit question imply that someone over 18 couldn't possibly be having this kind of issue? Really don't understand the attack here. The reason I phrased it the way I did is because I have seen people saying that looking through phones is ok depending on who it is. I think it's retarded both ways. It's really easy to get stuck between wanting to make your partner happy and comfort them while also respecting your own privacy and boundaries and doing what you want in life. Things are fine now, but I've dealt with a lot of insecure partners in the past and I still struggle to think about that particular issue.
Thanks for the advice.

No. 256770

>>256763
I'm not going to deal with what awful wording so I'm just going to say you.

Here's what I think: I think checking your partner's phone is justified but doing so out of personal issues, especially jealousy, with no grounded suspicion for cheating is probably unhealthy. I feel like as a society we're still trying to work out whether looking into your partner's phone is okay or not but we've come to a point where people on average spend 6 hours on our phones. That's a third(!!!) of your waking life. If your partner was gone for that much time every single day it'd be 100% justified to want to know where they are and what they're up to too so I personally strongly believe the same can be said for your phone.

So in conclusion: I think it's right to want to check your partner's phone but not necersarrily for the reasons you mentioned.

No. 256772

Wait, would you let your partner go through your phone?

No. 256773

>>256767
>>256772
After all that affort to phrase it as vague as possible you're making it pretty obvious you're the one with the insecure partner who wants to check your phone.

>Wait, would you let your partner go through your phone?

Yes. That doesn't mean they get to read every single intimate conversation I have but a global look through my chatapp to see who I've got chats active with or what websites/apps I use most is reasonable. It's a two way street though. Like I said, people spend too much time on their phone to let it go wholly unchecked.

No. 256774

>>256763
I think the want to look through someone else’s phone is concerning, and the want to hide what’s on the phone is concerning. In a relationship you should have a level of trust which doesn’t invade the others privacy unless maybe married with a joint bank account. There should be no reason to want to look through someone else’s phone because of your past experience of being bad judge of character, and if they are doing other things such as pulling away, disappearing etc then that should be reason enough to leave the relationship, not looking through someone’s messages for validation.

Speaking from experience it always leads to bad - When I was in my teens my bf looked through my messages without me knowing and I felt sick, I had never cheated on him but the thought of him reading what I believed were personal conversations with my best friends damaged my trust, felt invasive like someone read my diary but it also never resolved the issues on his end. In that same relationship I was also on the other end and read through his texts to see what I believed to be his work colleague flirting with him, even if it wasn’t, I read in to it like it was because I was looking for something to validate things going south. Things going south should have been the only validation I needed. Then let’s not forget if you don’t find anything it’s because they must have deleted the evidence before you got to it. This behaviour breaks down trust more and more and adds unnecessary control element to a relationship and unless you develop stockholm syndrome, the person who feels trapped will eventually flee.

No. 256775

>>256772
Yeah I've got nothing to hide. I tell my bfs my phone password.
I went through my ex phone two times, one time I found out he was flirting hard and planning to meet up with some girl, second time I found out he's been badmouthing me to his female friend and also planning to meet her in secret. It saved me a lifetime of hurt because if I didn't look, I would never know he's like this, he didn't really show many signs of it to me. If he snooped on my phone, at most he'd find embarrassing selfies and shitty memes. Considering I've given him my password, I gave him access.

No. 256785


No. 256786

>>256775
NTA but this exactly is why I always see male outrage for phone snooping as a cope. Every single time I've looked through a guys phone, and I'm nosey as hell, Ive seen some shit that broke the illusion of who he was. It's the real them and they are desperate to hide it. They do not give a single fuck about "right to privacy" or they'd stop jacking off to hidden cameras. One even had saved images of Japanese "junior idols"…

No. 256789

>>256772
I've always let partners know how to access my phone, I do it with emergencies in mind but if they do snoop while I'm asleep or showering… they won't find anything so I guess I don't mind.

I had an ex who in the beginning let me know his code 'just in case' I never used it to snoop but used it once or twice to check things at his request. Then later in the relationship he got a phone that reads your thumb print. I didn't think anything of it but he started acting very guarded with his phone too and I def noticed that. I got a bad feeling and sure enough he eventually sat me down and told me he'd met someone else at work and he was planning on moving in with her. God only knows what conversations I would've found if I had access.

No. 256829

idk if this goes here but basically i have a stalker narc ex and he has been trying to get back at me for years. My current bf is pretty well known in his industry and my ex knows we are dating (or at least still assumes we are despite no contact and a complete lack of an internet presence for years now). i'm worried that my stalker ex is going ruin his reputation because he's already attempted to before. i am happy my bf is gaining notoriety and getting rewarded for his efforts but i can't help but feel incredibly anxious over it, like i'm waiting for the day my narc ex decides to really ramp up his smear campaign and tear everything down. i can only see my bfs continued success as enraging my ex further and making whatever he's planning on next even worse. he's already gotten a bunch of unrelated people to hate me with his wild tales, and he is now trying to worm his way into the same sphere my bf is in. i know he wants to befriend people there and make a name for himself just so he could ruin my bf out of revenge and jealousy. it just makes me so fucking anxious, like i have no control. this man has dedicated his life to ruining mine ever since HE broke up with me.

i am an extremely private person and i can't stand the idea of my ex violating my/our life and privacy like this. i know for certain he'll use any opportunity he has to smear me too. anything to take both of us down. god, i don't know nonnas. what should i do? am i too worried about this? am i overreacting? it keeps me up at night all the time and i can't tell if it's a real imminent threat or if i am overreacting because of my anxiety disorder.

No. 256840

>>256829
Does he actually have the ability to ruin your bf's career though? Your bf as you said is well known and this guy is a nobody in that industry, why would people take his word over someone way more established in the community?

No. 256886

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Is it wrong for me to feel jealous when my crush flirts with other girls? And the reason I feel jealous is because we liked eachother and he'd tell me he loved me for over a year and made me feel special. It was almost like edating. We couldn't date because we lived too far apart(we only know eachother online) but we were hoping to meet eachother one day. I think if you really love someone then you only love them and dont seek cheap affection from egirls with a bunch of male followers. It's stupid because they don't even like him back and he made a sexual joke to her which was gross. He didn't do this when I first got to know him at least not that I know of. I guess he technically doesn't owe me loyalty because we aren't offical but it hurts a lot because he'd always say he loved me and i loved him too but now i feel like he doesn't. He even asked me before if I was worried about the girls that were flirting with him because he didn't want me to feel like a "side hoe". Anyway I ghosted him and blocked him on everything because I saw too many redflags in him but this was my last straw. sorry if this sounds stupid because we've never met but our relationship felt special but i guess it no longer is.

No. 256892

>>256886
>He even asked me before if I was worried about the girls that were flirting with him because he didn't want me to feel like a "side hoe".
This sentence tells you what you need to know. He doesn't consider the women side girls, he considers you the sidegirl.

No. 256894

>>256886
You sound underage.

No. 256896

>>256894
i turned 18 4 months ago

No. 256899

>>256886
Keep him blocked and don't look back. He's a horny loser lusting over women online and using terms like 'side hoe' when it sounds like all his interactions with women happen on a screen anyway. He's in fantasy land and none of this is real. This is some dudes fap material.

Meet people in person where you can guage their character better. Don't waste these years of your life on online losers and the shit they'll feed you about it being twue love. He does not love you.

No. 256902

>>256886
Nonny it's gonna hurt for a few weeks or months but drop him. You have so much time, don't worry about low-quality fuckboys. You'll find someone better.

No. 256903

>>256896
That explains your naivity and mentioning egirls. Be very careful with edating, if you're planning on doing that again. Don't put time and love into guys who aren't willing or able to meet you pretty soon. You can't trust them, that's just how it is unfortunately. But if you can and want to date again, try dating among people who're already part of your social life. When the guy is a friend or a friend of a friend etc. it's much easier to tell if his intentions are good because people around you can tell you what kind of person he is, if he's not keeping other girls on the side etc. The social controle of dating in your own circle helps a lot to prevent situations like this.

No. 256904

>>256886
Are you the girl in discord who has a crush on a pro-life incel? Kek.

No. 256906

>>256904
nope
>>256899
>>256903
i'd meet people irl but im chronically online and don't really have social life and i don't know how to start but i'll stop having crushes on guys i'll never meet

I just want to know if it's ok to feel jealous about this because i'm not sure whether to tell him incase he confronts me about it on another account.

No. 256907

>>256906
Block him on all accounts and don't reply anything.
Get an offline hobby, it will help you socialise.

No. 256910

>>256906
>I just want to know if it's ok to feel jealous about this
The answer is no. He lead you on for a year but you didn't date, not even e-date, so you can hardly justify being jealous over it. But really I hope you realize here he's not worth being jealous over because he's a guy with ill intent towards you, your time and your feelings.

No. 256923

>>256906
You're 18.. so no your hurt feelings aren't unusual or all that crazy given your age tbh, but do not tell this guy you're jealous. Just cut contact now without dumping these emotions on him. It'll only stroke his ego if you admit this to him. I guarantee he's not worth your feelings.

No. 256936

>>256886
This reminds me so much of myself a decade ago. Except I actually met him and the realization of how much of a loser he was set in and I ran away. None of these chronically online males can make good partners, they usually do not have their shit together in any aspect. He was disabled irl and expected me to lease an apartment for me to move in "with him", addicted to gaming, and I lost all feelings and was like "the fuck and I doing?". The brain feels good when you see cute messages but they're just pixels at the end of a day, coming from an unwashed male. When you're lonely it can be a great comfort, but it's all toxic and a waste of energy.

No. 256985

Guy I'm dating and I are drifting apart. I was so in love with him. The worst thing is I'm pretty sure both of us know we're not compatible but we can't let go so we keep talking, but slowly less and less.

No. 257029

>>256936
Dating vidya addicted fatties is the surest path to making your life into a private hell.

No. 257050

I just came home from what feels like to be a really successful date. I thought he unmatched me on the dating app we met on, but I made a quick side account and it seems he deleted his app profile altogether. Is this a success?? He took the chance to touch my hair when we were walking to get bugs out of it. I like him, I hope this just means he really likes me back. The hug goodbye was nice.

No. 257078

>>256936
I've had one of those barely functional autist boyfriends and I myself was an autistic depressed woman who could barely keep her shit together. I thought we could be pigs on a trashheap together, but then he said he expected me to take care of him. Even damaged men expect a perfect housemaid service, especially autists that have very rigid modes of thinking.
So for any depressed young girls - don't fucking date "similiar" guys thinking they'll understand you or anything.

No. 257088

>>257050
so cute! keep us posted

No. 257096

>>257050
Seems weird he'd delete it after one date.

No. 257109

>>257096
It does seem weird. We exchanged numbers early on in our messages, though. I hope he also sees a very positive outlook of last night. I am keeping an eye on his social media I was able to find for the time being, maybe that'll give some hints, but I'm planning to straight up ask him why by tomorrow, if he ends up not texting me, so I don't have to waste my time.

No. 257135

>>257050
On pretty much every app you can hide your profile from being seen by certain numbers or hide it from people you haven't liked.

I'm sorry nonnie but I can't see a situation in which a man deletes his number immediately after a first date, no matter how good it was.

No. 257326

>>257135
The only thing I can bank on is that he has a list of women he wanted to choose from to move forward with and I was basically last on these potentials since our date landed on a Sunday and there was no "spark" with me on his end. That, or he believes he is extremely bad at social skills and is following dating advice blogs to a T to not seem clingy to me. He hasn't texted me back since last night, but now it just feels like the first situation is what's going on.
I don't really know though, my past two relationships ended up being narcissists so I have no idea how a normal progression is expected to go.

No. 257409

>>257326
He told you he has a list and you were the last on it? yikes

If someone genuinely liked you he would text you and not leave you wondering.

No. 257422

>>257326
What kind of troglodyte autist are you trying to date lmao nonnie
Raise up your standards or just be single jesus don't simp and worry for such a loser

No. 257472

>>257409
No he hasn't told me anything. I am only conspiring because my brain loves to do that lmao. I'm moving on, not worth my time.
>>257422
I am now fully aware I need to raise my standards, I was in a brain fog until last night it hit me i was more focused on the tiny things he had that i wanted in a relationship.

No. 257475

>>257472
>I am only conspiring because my brain loves to do that lmao. I'm moving on, not worth my time.
Don't let your brain ruin relationships and your opinion of people, but also don't hype a man up that doesn't deserve it. He should contact you very very soon after meeting. My last date texted me as I was in the car going home lol.

There are billions of men, there is no reason to settle.

No. 257518

I’ve been dating my bf for a month and I’m really torn on whether or not to break up because he makes me cringe a lot. He sends me pictures or occasionally makes this half smile sort of smirk face, not like the AGP smirk but he does it when he’s genuinely happy. That expression itself bothers me but I’m sure he has no idea wtf I’m talking about even though he does it in every selfie he takes.

I think his judgement in general is just like sort of autistic although he’s not diagnosed; he gives me major autistic vibes even though I would never tell him that. Another point is that he has also has different taste from me as I was raised by a macho man and he grew up in theater. I recognize my bias here. But today I cringed hardcore when sent me a selfie of a him (with the damn glib smirk face of course) with this hat on that was a ball cap but the design was like clearly for a woman. He apparently liked it and said he would wear it. He did not buy it thankfully but I cringed hard because he just would not back down when I told him the hat was cringey (one of those generic ‘love’ things) and it made me miss the days where my boyfriends would listen to my fashion expertise. I love him but he kind of embarrasses me in this regard even though I was initially attracted to his idgaf attitude since I am a chronic carer of what other people think. I feel like I need to break up with him because I just don’t see this lasting much longer given how much I cringe at his overconfidence sometimes.

No. 257520

Do you think sharing your dating life with male friends is a good or bad idea? Do you think it's something that should be kept hidden/omitted from conversation or openly discussed? Song unrelated.

No. 257521

>>257518
It just sounds like you're not attracted to him.
If you are and only hate these selfies, tell him in some nice way not to send them. Idk how tho

No. 257530

>>257520
Bad idea. The fact that you have to ask says enough.

No. 257537

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>leads me on for days
>I find his twitter
>his friends are clowning me without saying my actual name
I deserved this one ngl, why would a girl like me confess first?

No. 257540

I’ve been talking to this guy/dating and I’m not quite sure what to do (this is my first relationship thing). Basically over the past maybe 5 months I’ve come to realize that I’m practically borderline asexual. I very rarely have a drive. I’m not quite sure how to bring it up to the boy because I don’t want him to lose interest in me. I’m a virgin but we’ve done stuff that’s in a sexual nature I guess you could call it and I don’t know how I really felt about it. I kinda just went along because he likes it. Before I met him I was convinced I’d just never date and stay celibate and was content with that also. I just don’t know how or if I should bring this up with him or just do what makes him happy because honestly it doesn’t feel bad for me it just feels like nothing

No. 257546

>>257537
baby i am so sorry that happened to you, you did nothing to deserve this i promise. he's absolute garbage and so are his friends. cut him off right now and block him on everything (if you didn't already)

No. 257548

>>257520
I think it depends. I share my dating life with my best friend's fiancee and we laugh at how there's a good reason most of these failed dates are still single.

No. 257554

>>257537
What kind of pathetic man is that? It's good that you discovered his true colours in time. Stop blaming yourself girl, that's a level 1000 douchebag. These types are just looking for reasons to make fun of women.

No. 257556

>>257518
You sound a bit insufferable but just break up with him. It doesn't sound like a match. What do you like about him?

No. 257563

Am I wrong for this? My boyfriend does not watch porn, so when we watch movies that feature female nudity, I feel like he understandably is going to get aroused even if it's not how he mentally feels. He does the shake his leg thing which I assume is so he doesn't get a boner. Well, it triggers me, bad, because I was sexually abused by my brother and he'd do that when trying to lessen his boners unsuccessfully. I'd rather him have a boner than him try to not have one because he's scared I'll notice or whatever. Thing is, my boyfriend has claimed before he doesn't automatically get boners from stimuli and shit, and it just seems a bit silly to me….I mean I get not being a super bonery guy, but any guy, by anyone, will get a boner if his penis is stimulated. What do you all think? How would I go about telling him I wish he'd stop shaking his leg if it is related because it grosses me out more than if I realized he had a one off boner because he sees nudes when not expecting it.

No. 257566

>>257563
literally just say exactly what you told us, none of this should be difficult to say to your bf… it's not mean or confronting or even embarrassing.

No. 257569

>>257566
I feel like it is plenty embarrassing and it's hard for me to talk about. I think he'll feel terrible at me bringing up my brother and he won't enjoy me bringing that up.

No. 257572

>>257569
Ntayrt but oh no, poor him? You're the one being triggered, if he can't handle hearing about sexual abuse that happened to you his partner while being understanding and supportive then he's a shit bf. On the other hand it is understandable if you yourself would prefer not to talk about it because it's difficult and stressful. You don't have to give him explicit reasons, you can just say you have bad memories associated with the leg shaking and would really appreciate if he didn't do that and it's fine if he gets boners sometimes. If he forgets about it you can even joke about it to lighten the tension like 'yep it's a nude scene, exciting stuff but let's not add an earthquake to the mix'

No. 257573

>>257572
Thanks anon for the ideas, I appreciate it. No, he wouldn't get mad at me, I just don't want him to feel like I associate him with my brother since he really dislikes my brother due to aforementioned reasons. I don't feel as weird if I have to mention it now, thank you for the ideas. I just hate talking about it because it feels silly, I know a lot of guys settle down boners that way and it's not truly a specific brother thing, it's just something I by happenstance associated with him so it just is a sucky situation. I dislike talking about my abuse in general because I'm trying to move on from it, but sometimes I get hiccups

No. 257593

>>251399
Have been, for the past 5ish years chatting to my ex and he’s married… keeps talking about running away together lolnotgonnahappen.jpg

Finally realised need to stop wasting my time on this moid, dating app advice? Finding someone new advice? Please and thank you nonitas

No. 257598

>>257593
How old are you? I honestly need tips too kek. I'm late 20s, it's been a bad year for me. Before that I'd always meet a guy naturally but covid fucked it up for me.
But what I learnt about dating apps through bad experiences is that you should really vet the guys, don't swipe right on people you can't see yourself actually dating. It wastes a lot of time and you'll end up feeling shitty when you end it with them.

Red flags, swipe left:
>drinking in a lot of their bio photos
>writing they are depressed/anxious or way too self-deprecating bio
>too many shirtless pics
>pictures with sexy women
>bitching or are salty about women in bio ("are there any, normal girls in this app?/women, write first if you match!/if you're xxx don't swipe right")
>mention porn or sex in their bio
>guys who are models
>sport nutjobs
>ugly or bald - they're meaner than pretty ones and will neg you, seriously don't go for ugly guys

No. 257611

>>257540
As a fellow celibate I've been in a similar situation, started dating a guy in my late 20s for the first time, and as soon as sex was brought up I started panicking. I don't consider myself asexual, just uninterested in doing it with someone else. I called things off before we got serious, I felt a relationship would give me too much headaches for little reward, if you don't feel that strongly about the guy I'd suggest doing the same.

No. 257637

You ever have a boyfriend with bpd so out of touch with feelings and communication that you can’t effectively break up with him. I feel like I’m in crazy town.

No. 257640

>>257611
Thanks for the advice. The thing is I think I really like him and I’m afraid to bring this up, and also afraid to cut it off due to this but I don’t want him to be upset if I go along. I’m just not sure if there’s ever been anyone who has had a successful relationship dealing with this situation I have

No. 257642

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Something really embarrassing happened a few days ago. As we were about to have sex, my boyfriend wanted to spice things up and put a butt plug in my anus. Then we decided to have vaginal sex in the missionary position, but he kept pushing the plug in with his fingers and i told him i'm worried that my hole would swallow it, but he kept going. I couldn't really feel it anymore at this point, so i forgot about it. When we finished, i checked and i was right, it got stuck way behind the entrance. So i panicked and went to the bathroom. I tried pushing it out, but i wasn't successful. So i started crying really hard and then my boyfriend came in and told to me to get on my knees, so he could try to grab it. It hurt so bad, but he eventually succeeded. He pulled it out, but let me just say it wasn't clean. So i started crying again and took the dirty plug out of his hands and washed it under the sink, then i hopped into the shower to clean my bum. Meanwhile my boyfriend wanted to wash his hands, but the sink was clogged with you know what. I cleaned it for him. Then i told him i'm worried he'll never want to have sex with me again now, but he seemed to be very understanding and said it's okay. Luckily his eyesight is very bad and he took his glasses off before we got into bed, but still. He said he almost vomited. Now a few days later, we're in contact, but he seems to be busy all the time. I know it's not my fault, but it never should've happened. I wonder if he's contemplating to break up with me now. I'm so embarrassed and confused. I needed to get this off my chest, this is something i'll never be able to tell anyone.

No. 257646

>>257642
Please don't feel bad for this anon, what the fuck did he expect? If he couldn't accept this outcome then he shouldn't have agreed to it in the first place. He also pushed your boundaries because you told him your concerns and he didn't listen to you.

No. 257648

>>257628
any guy who thinks he's top of the world for doing the most basic shit is a red flag, I've encountered so many shitty men who think they're some powerful CEO chad because they work for spectrum or something kek

No. 257649

>>257642
He probably feels guilty as he should. He owes you an apology for not stopping and just leaving it alone. It's not your fault, nonna.

No. 257650

>>257642
is he anatomically retarded and think things can't get stuck in the butthole? you're lucky you got it out anon because sometimes these things require surgery
also
>distancing himself from you because he wanted to shove a buttplug all the way in your shitter and was surprised when poop came out
break up with him first for not understanding basic anatomy kek. Even literal children understand the concept that poop comes out of your ass. He sounds like a porn addict who thinks just because they cut all the bloopers out means that there's no poop in your ass

No. 257660

>>257642
I'm so sorry nonnie. I know you feel really embarrassed, but it wasn't your fault at all. I'm just glad you're okay.
That boyfriend of yours, though? He is a fucking idiot for putting your health at risk, that could have been a humiliating night at A&E for you or possible internal damage just because he's a retard that doesn't understand anatomy.

No. 257667

>>257642
You shouldn't be ashamed, he should.
I never do anal because men are braindead and porn sick and I'm 100% they imagine women's asshole being clean like in porn, female shit to smell less (I kid you not that's what my ex said) and if there's gonna be any poop, they'll make me feel bad and embarrassed for doing what they wanted.
Next time just tell the guy anal is a meme and he's dumb for being memed into it. Shame him, laugh at him. Ask him if he's a degenerate as a 'joke'. It works.

No. 257672

>>257642
I've had one or two trips to the bathroom before to clean up together after anal play went south but it was while playing with larger toys, I wasn't the one on the receiving end so it wasn't my poop but tbh you've got to just suck it up if you play around in an asshole (especially spontaneously) and you get shat on. He really walked you into this by not understanding how a plug works. You don't press down on a plug that's already fully in there and you def don't do it while there's alot of motion happening in the front and you're not keeping an eye on it. Dumb move.

You trusted him with your safety and you could've ended up in a hospital having this thing surgically removed. Poop happens but he's a dipshit (excuse the pun) for this. Like get a dildo if you're trying to actually fuck someone in the back with a toy. Scrotes stop trying to fuck women with plugs. The clue on how plugs work is in the name. I'm sorry anon.

No. 257720

>>257637
Don't communicate about it anymore because it's not going to settle in for him until you actually do it and even then he'll probably delude himself that it's not serious. Or he'll paint you black again and hate your guts, in which case great at least you're away from him for that. Take care of yourself, forget about him and just let him wallow in his own little parallel universe. If you live together, do what you need to in regards to letting your landlord know and move out. If you don't, say you're finished with the relationship once and then block him on everything. Don't let him gaslight you into thinking he'll change or it's not so bad, your gut is telling you what you need to do despite all the confusion.

No. 257723

>>257667
Yep men are retarded. They're the ones with a prostate gland, they're literally made for anal we are not. If a man wants to do anal say sure, but only if you get to peg him with a fat strap first. Shuts down that convo quick.

No. 257729

>>257642
Listen nonna, the next time you meet, you have to make very clear boundaries and tell him that when you say you don't want him to do something, you mean it. Then you have to take the next best chair and beat it over his head until he's unconscious and dump his pathetic ass.

No. 257735

>>257642
Did he apologize to you?
He should have cleaned the plug himself considering it was his fault.
Did he care about hurting you or how upset you were?
He sounds like an insensitive prick, he really didn't need to tell you it almost made him puke either.

No. 257793

>>257735
Yeah telling her that was so fucking mean.

No. 257794

>>257642
i don't feel bad for you tbh. you sound young, and when i was younger i let an ex try to have anal sex with me multiple times. unnecessary to say the least that it was messy and extremely painful, didn't feel good at all and i just felt bad for a long time, like why would i ever let someone enter my asshole? you just think about why you'd let your bf do that to you so by the next time you enter a relationship you won't be so stupid, willing, and naive.

No. 257800

>>257794
it's her fault her boyfriend pushed her boundaries despite her verbally saying no? get lost, you retarded pickme with loose asshole

No. 257802

>>257794
>i don't feel bad for you tbh
Can weirdly bitter tards stop with these opening line on here already. She didn't ask you to feel bad. She asked for advice because this is awkward as hell.

So you've let yourself end up in a similar situation before and now you're doubling down on the "well first of all I've no empathy for women who are just like me" approach. Well done. Now go to the unpopular opinion thread and give us a "I don't feel bad for abused women and here's why" hot take like we've been blessed with alot lately. Same retarded energy.

No. 257805

>>257794
Imagine letting a dude plow you in the ass until you shit on his dick but still blame women who were less willing in the same sex acts like you. You let your boyfriend do it, the anon in question kept telling him to stop. That's the difference. You still didn't deserve it and your bf was an asshole but stop acting like all women are like you.

No. 257815

>>257794
why wouldn't you feel bad for her if you acknowledge she is likely young and naive? you don't feel bad for people who get pressured or coerced into doing things that end up hurting them? she probably is young and didn't know better and it is deserving of sympathy. she obviously recognizes that this was traumatic and inadvisable now with hindsight.

No. 257816

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>>257794
literally no one asked if you felt bad for her, retard. you obviously still have deep resentment for yourself for being put in a situation that wasn't even your fault so you feel it necessary to say that shit to other women.

No. 257817

I'm with a bf that I think is finally the perfect match for me. However, the sex is probably the worst I've had. Do you guys just settle with this or try to work on it together? I'm not sure how I would work on this without hurting his ego.

No. 257819

>>257817
It can be most likely worked on; if he really is a good person and a perfect match he shouldn't have a problem with taking feedback. You don't have to necessarily tell him anything like "this is the worst sex I had, we need to change things asap", but try to come with more suggestions, maybe just sit together and talk about what you like and what maybe you'd want to see more or less in your sex life. If he cares about you he will be willing to work on it.

No. 257820

>>257817
Why is it bad?

No. 257821

>>257819
thanks, I'll try to give pointers casually
>>257820
inexperience, penis shape, ED, he likes positions I don't

No. 257825

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I will sound like a retardo but here it goes:
I have self esteem issues all my life; now I'm dating a guy I consider far above "my league", even though he always tried to reassure me I'm wrong, actually was the one to approach me, not the other way around. In the past he used to have pretty active social media, when we met though, not so much already. I know I should care about how things are between us and they're great; but I cant help feeling pain knowing he shared so many videos and photos on his fb in the past showing his ex; it's often not even them together but just her, and it's so obvious he loved and was proud of being with her so much; seeing her through his lens makes that admiration so clear to see. Logically, I think he probably didn't do that with me because he didn't care about social media so much anymore, which is a good thing, but part of me can't help feeling like he just didn't love and admire me so much to want to make such memories. His ex lives in a different country now, so that adds to insecurity that the only reason he's with me is because she's not there. They're not in touch but again, the only reason being probably because she's not using any social media at all, she is this kind of really cool free spirit living "off the grid", definitely nothing like mentally ill me. I'd give anything to be like her. How do I even cope with all this? I'm practicing mindfulness and so as my therapist recommended but it just keeps coming back and I feel like I'm irreversibly messed up in my head and it will never be better.

No. 257843

>>257825
Share your insecurities with him. As your partner it's his job to listen to you and show you his love. Maybe he won't be taking pictures of you for social media, but there's certainly things he can do to show that he cares for you and is proud of you. Be open to his suggestions, tell him your own, and try not to beat yourself up or compare to other people. Think of what would make you the happiest woman in the world and ask him to do it.

No. 257844

>>257821
Well you can't do anything about his penis shape but he should be 100% working to fix his ED. Is he not able to get hard if he can't go into his set positions or whatever (the ones you don't like)?

No. 257848

>>257844
Yeah, I think he is working on trying to resolve his ED. I think it comes from his anxiety and not so much on the physicality of sex.

No. 257851

>>257848
has he opened up about his anxiety with you or have you just noticed it?

No. 257861

>>257843
Thank you anon! I brought it up and he has seemingly infinite patience for it coming up over and over, always being loving and reassuring. It's a very good idea though to try to maybe find some new things that could be done to make me feel safer, I know if there was something he would do it. It does feel like though, given it's a "me" problem, that it's something that will always, more or less, eat me from the inside…

No. 257866

The anon above who is insecure about her bf is making me think about the fact my bf has some pictures of his ex way down on his IG. They're not visible immediately, you have to flip through the photos on the post and they're from many years ago. It's weird because though sometimes I get bouts of wishing he would delete his posts, I doubt he is really thinking about it and I don't let it bother me because he has a fuckload of posts from that time period. His ex is markedly unattractive as compared to me, though. I wonder if she were attractive if it'd piss me off. He has no pictures of me but I am sensitive about being photographed in general. We have maybe 3-5 pictures of us being together in a 3+ year relationship because of that. So idk. I can't be too mad. Thoughts on this situation?

No. 257868

>>257866
Take my advice with a grain of salt. I'm like you and don't like having my picture taken if I can avoid it, so I don't have pictures of my ex. But I don't think it's that serious unless he's frequently fawning over pictures with just the two of them in it, posting throwbacks of just their couples photos, or (obviously) jerking off to them. I know social media culture is different but a lot of people still like to keep photos because they're tied to events they'd like to remember. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the relationship, but maybe somewhere they went or something they did. And you have to understand (and you seem to understand, I think?) that your partner is going to remember their exes whether they keep photos of them or not. I remember every relationship I've had. I remember what the person looked like. I even remember the sex sometimes (not fondly kek). I don't miss the person or the relationship, but we still had fun experiences sometimes and those things I like to look back on. Some people use photos to help them remember and I don't think it's reasonable for someone to want their partner to forget good memories just because they happened with someone else. Maybe that's the only picture they took to commemorate a special memory and they aren't as good at remembering events without them. If they were nudes or clearly used for masturbatory purposes that's a whole different matter. But old couples photos still existing is not a red flag in my opinion. I know some nonas would disagree but idk I used to get really bothered by these kind of things but as I grew older I realized just how tangled memory can be and you can't always block out people from your past without losing something meaningful from the moment.

No. 257873

>>257642
And I bet you will continue to date this faggot who doesn't respect you

No. 257877

>>257868
Yeah, I agree. I still have pictures of my exes, they represent chapters of my life. They're just not posted on social media. The pictures of his ex on his IG aren't affectionate and they're with groups of friends, so it's not crazy weird. It just sometimes triggers my internal BPD, lol, but I'm able to not let it control me or anything (like I don't lash out or freak about it, it just sometimes makes me uncomfortable).

No. 257878

>>257866
I can offer some perspective from the other side: I have lots of photos of me with my ex that I don't give a shit about. I don't miss him, I don't hate him, I just don't care about him. It was a period of my life that came and went, and I don't want to delete the photos because they don't make me feel any particular way. If my bf asked me to and it was making him feel bad, I of course would, but he hasn't.
I also have photos of my other exes that have cheated on me or otherwise treated me like shit, that I don't like looking at. Those I have removed. So maybe that girl was just from another time in his life and he doesn't feel any particular way about her any more.

No. 257887

>>257878
He definitely dislikes her. He seems very ashamed of being with her, I can tell he misdirects his resentment towards her because he is ashamed of being with a floozy and the circumstances in which they got together. I try not to think about it because it bothers me he dislikes her, but I know that's a dumb personal thing because for me, I still don't harbor any ill will for my exes even though 1 was physically and sexually abusive, but I didn't love any of them so I can't understand feeling upset and angry at myself for being with them.

No. 257888

>>257887
abused, kek, not abusive

No. 257894

>>257887
Men do date and fuck women they find unattractive but they don't go showing the same woman around and keep countless pictures of them together. He's lying to you. A woman can be ugly but if she's his type, he might still find her attractive because that's how male attraction works. If he really was ashamed, he wouldn't have taken and shared her pictures or at least took them down after they broke out. The men who trash their old girlfriends but still keep memories and stuff from them are resflags if you ask me.

No. 257903

>>257894
I appreciate the concern, but idk what you mean by "showing her around", the posts are like over 4-5 years old and he doesn't really post on IG anymore and you have to scroll down very, very far to see the photos and even then on the posts they're always with other people and they're not touching, cuddling, or showing any physical affection. It's not countless photos, like maybe 4-5 total? You have to really look for them. He does have some measuring cups from her that were a gift, but wtf while I think most men are trash, I really don't think I want to encourage myself being bpd asf. I have a bunch of shit from my exes, more stuff than him, honestly, and I suspect I have way more photos of them than he has of her, it seems. Maybe I could check for nudes and shit on his Google account, but I have nudes of my ex and I don't delete them because I don't want to look at them. I bring up my exes all the time because I was with them both for such a long time, and he brings up other exes he doesn't have photos of, too.

He's never said he was unattracted physically, he has said he always finds the woman he's with attractive because he loves them.

I've been with a guy before who was attracted to obese chicks and he definitely liked having me around because it was a social status booster for him because I'm attractive, but he eventually had to be with someone obese so I'm sensitive and wary about that. I think my current boyfriend has low standards if I'm honest, but he doesn't seem obsessed with fat or ugly chicks. I think he is attracted to me, but idk, I can never say for sure because my ex did really screw with me being able to accept the men I am with really find me attractive even if all their friends and others seem to.

No. 257905

>>257887
>he is ashamed of being with a floozy
No he's not anon. He enjoyed her att and he even kept her pics up all this time.

No. 257906

>>257905
Yes and like all men, now he's just saying he's ashamed because that's his excuse for keeping pictures of her. If he didn't say that, he'd have lost OP.

No. 257907

>>257887
I'm not against having (mundane) pics of your exes on your instagram but
>he's ashamed of her
this makes no sense. If he was ashamed of her he'd take the pictures off the page that presents him to the world, he's supposedly ashamed of her after all. I think he lies to you to keep you sweet.

No. 257909

>>257905
>>257906
>>257907
He's never said he's ashamed of her, I infer that since he doesn't think she made very good life decisions and he thinks looking back he should have made better decisions. I just think it's crazy for me to bring this up because he's seen pictures of my ex on Google photos and I think it's weird to tell him he should delete photos when I still have photos of my exes. He doesn't ever delete posts on Instagram and he rarely posts, and if so, it's just of his art projects, you have to scroll really far down to even see them and from the photos themselves you would not know they were in a relationship.

It just makes me feel like crap when I delve too much into his past because it makes me feel obsessive and distrustful and I'm always trying not to sabotage things because of my bpd.

No. 257916

>>257903
Same here, I had a guy who used me as basically arm-candy in public and cheated with countless morbidly obese chicks and troons. It's a fucking headache now since you never know if they're actually attracted to you or attracted to the asspats they get for dating a hot girl, also lead me to getting dumb sick with binge-eating disorder

No. 257920

>>257916
NTA vut don't date down your league. Men will keep beautiful women around as trophies while cheating or having romantics relationships with women they actually like. A handsome man who genuinely loves you wouldn't but an uggo who never had a woman interested in him would.

No. 257930

>>257916
Wow, that is remarkably similar to how I dealt with it. I became anorexic because I accepted I was never going to be what he wanted in an unhealthy way. I'm glad that chapter of my life is over. My current boyfriend likes to tell me that people say how lucky he is to have such an attractive girlfriend or that they think I'm an Instagram model or whatever and it sucks because I know he means to boost my ego, but it actually makes me feel worse.

No. 257947

>>257909
Tbh I wouldn't read too much into it. I feel like men don't care about their social media as much and about what kinds of photos they put on there, at least for the most part.

Sounds more like you should work on your self confidence, and I mean this in the least bitchy way possible. If your partner wants to be unfaithful he will, regardless of how much you worry.
I guess what I'm trying to say is: have faith in yourself, in your partner and in your relationship. Don't work yourself up with stuff that's not even in the present anymore.

No. 257953

>>257723
I wouldn't recommend doing this. I said this to an ex moid to get him to shut the fuck up and leave it alone but then he started pestering me to peg him instead, and then a whole new can of worms was opened. Just leave a man if he asks for anal instead.

No. 257959

>>257953
Kek I'm sorry nona, but it's kind of funny he was that far gone. You're right though just avoid degenerates.

No. 258007

I have a feeling my best friend is trying to set me up with her husband's best friend. It feels like both her and the husband see a potentially good relationship between us and they are simultaneously trying to clear that path for us to actually see it.
I'm hesitant. My best friend knows I'm going through a rough patch, I have some internalized biases that she also overcame a few years ago to be able to fully have feelings for her husband, which is basically why I don't feel fully comfortable trying to open up the possibility of dating him.
For him, he's currently in a relationship that clearly seems to be going nowhere and bff's husband is trying to make him break up with his current gf and look at what's physically in front of him, which I'm gonna guess is me.
I am starting to consider showing a little bit of my romantic side the next time it's all four of us.
You know, I have plans to hang with my best friend tomorrow morning and I'm probably going to joke around about how I actually kinda wish he was with us, just to see her reaction lol.
After some self talking, I'm willing to give it a shot. The husband is best friends with him anyways so that means he's a great person, I just haven't seen or really paid attention to it because of that bias I have related to them.

No. 258047

I really want to go to a concert in another country but my boyfriend hates travelling and doesn't like the band at all whereas they're one of my favourites. I have friends (male) in that country that also like the band and would go with me. What do I do? I feel like if I don't go Im just wasting my life and not doing anything exciting but I don't want to force my bf to a trip he simply doesn't want to do.

No. 258048

>>258047
Can you go with female friends? If not would he be ok with you going with male friends?

No. 258049

>>258048
I don't have any female friends in that country unfortunately and very few in my own country. I don't think he'd be happy with me going with my male friends and I would feel very nervous doing it anyway cause you can never trust random men lol so it's kind of like if my bf doesn't come I just probably won't go. Sorry I don't know why I asked when I think about it for longer the answer is pretty clear.

No. 258060

>>258049
Don't apologize for asking something or simply venting. I hope the band comes to your country so you can go to their concert one day.

No. 258065

>>258007
>he's currently in a relationship that clearly seems to be going nowhere and bff's husband is trying to make him break up with his current gf and look at what's physically in front of him, which I'm gonna guess is me.
That's not right. Even if friends want to point out when a relationship isn't serving someone well… you do not tell them to jump straight on into another relationship that you lined up for them in advance. They're getting too involved. It's bordering on just cheering on cheating if they think lining up someone while you're stil very much attached is acceptable. Anyone who has ever been dumped and watched their ex hop on over to someone else a day later knows it feels pretty fucking close to just straight being cheated on. It's a shit thing to do to someone to plan that shit out as a group. They sound morally fucked tbh and you at least have the awareness to say you're not in a great place right now for dating. I'd put a boundary in place right now and tell these people to stay out of your dating life and his too.

No. 258073

>>258007
>willing to have longterm relationship with a man who's going to start seeing you when he already has a gf
Damn you're dumb.
>having a husband who cheers his friends on for chesting and getting with other women because he thinks their current gfs aren't good enough.
Your friend is also dumb and in for a surprise when her husband inevitably does the same to her.

No. 258091

>>258007
Seconding >>258065
The set up situation is sketchy to begin with and also
>The husband is best friends with him anyways so that means he's a great person, I just haven't seen or really paid attention to it because of that bias I have related to them.
Don't gaslight yourself into liking someone who you don't have these kinds of feelings for. Hastily jumping into a relationship won't help you out of your rough patch. If you're looking for some fun to get your mind off things, there's dating apps and a lot of willing men out there.

No. 258268

>>258091
This but you should still be careful with men on dating apps. A lot of men use those to cheat.

No. 258288

how can i be a good partner without much independence and popularity? i moved and then got ill so i basically know nobody here. no roots really, no savings or friend group, can't even afford a car yet. my boyfriend doesn't mind driving me places and paying for things but i want to have a separate life on my own too.
everything is happening slowly but i feel bored with myself and that won't help my relationship. i don't want to be taken for granted for not having a life yet.

No. 258289

Hey nonnies. Not sure if this is the right thread but I'm so miserable.
My boyfriend called me yesterday and broke up with me, he says he doesn't have romantic interest in me and only likes me as a friend.
I'm still so shocked, we spent all of easter together and everything seemed normal. I don't understand how he can say this when he said i love you first, took me to meet his family, would always talk about 'our' future house and 'our' wedding. He was even talking about taking me on holiday just last weekend!
I just feel like there has to be something wrong with me

No. 258290

>>258289
I think something is going on with another woman, either he was using a dating app behind your back or he gets along with a coworker or a friend.

No. 258292

>>258289
Wtf this sounds so weird. I hope you're doing better noww.
>>258290
This anon might be right. Maybe he was waiting for another woman and when she finally showed him attention, he decided to end the relationship.

No. 258294

>>258292
>>258290
This is what my mum said as well but I don't want to believe it. He never hid his phone from me, I would always see his messages while we were cuddling and they were all mundane.
H hasn't had many relationships, I think I must have done something to scare him off. It just feels unfair that I wasn't the one rushing things, I only reciprocated what I thought were his feelings.
He says he still cares about me, enjoyed all of our time together, thinks I am attractive but doesn't love me and every time he said he loved me he felt like he was lying.

I'm just going to be miserable in bed all weekend, hopefully I can bounce back and live my Elle Woods fantasy

No. 258306

>>258294
>>258289
Why do you automatically think the problem is you, and not him? It takes a real piece of shit to do what he did, and I'm sorry you had to experience that. How long were you guys together?

No. 258307

>>258294
He prolly met some other woman that showed interest in him and did full 180, some moids do be like that. Don't blame yourself, cause there's nothing you could do and you're better off now.

No. 258320

>>258294
He’s a piece of lying shit then and you deserve better. If he met someone else and was a two faced baby about it I hope his dick rots off. Knowing you’re lying to someone especially with large emotions is manipulative. He was intentionally manipulating you so he wouldn’t have to face “consequences” and be alone or actually make a decision. He was a self sniveling little son of a dick. You deserve much better nonni.

No. 258360

Do you guys generally want/expect your partner to send a good morning/night text or call every night? Is that normal and common?

I’m in my first relationship and I still have old avoidant habits so I don't know if me finding that excessive is fine or something to work on

Posted this in /ot/ but I guess it’s more relevant here

No. 258366

>>258289
Whatever his reasoning was, it wasn't your fault. There's nothing wrong with you. The blame lies on him for leading you on, and giving no indication that he wasn't content with the relationship instead of communicating with you. He sounds immature and cowardly for not being open with you, and you deserve better than that.

No. 258373

>>258289
How long were you both together? If it wasn't very long maybe he just didn't see a future together or has second thoughts about making a proper commitment

No. 258386

>>258360
I too have avoidant/schizoid tendencies and I find it grating and borderline clingy, but from what I've seen "normal" people like to do it, so the guy would probably be put off if you asked him to stop.

No. 258438

>>258366
With my partner, we say good morning/goodnight maybe 70% of the time and the other times we just continue our conversation, talk about what's happening that day, etc.
I'd consider this common but even if it's "normal", your normal might not be everyone else's normal. If it makes your partner happy I think it'd be worth getting used to, but if that's not possible it'd be better to talk to them about it instead of draining yourself.

No. 258626

Yesterday afternoon, I was looking for something and found a polaroid of my boyfriend's ex in his bedside table. At first I thought he hadn't gone through it in a while so it was nothing to worry about but his old card which he replaced about 2 months ago was in there along with something else i knew he put in there about a month ago. On new years eve, we were messing about and showing each other pictures on our phones. When I went to look through pictures on his, he snatched it back and told me there were pictures of his ex on it. We argued about it but I gave up in the end and moved on. Several other things have happened between then and now but I don't know what to do or how to confront him. I think this might be the breaking point for me. I think I want to break up with him but our situation is a sticky one.

No. 258628

>>258626
Same fag, but i just wanted to clarify that when i looked through his bedside table it was because he asked me to find something in it. When we were passing our phones to and from each other it was all playful up until i opened a specific app that has his images backed up. Im sorry if my post is rubbish I'm not sure i'm thinking very clearly right now

No. 258629

>>258626
>I think I want to break up with him but our situation is a sticky one.
Obviously don’t know all the details, but I believe in you and you can figure it out nona. Women have been extricating themselves from shitty men since time immemorial whether their families were intertwined, shared kids, living together, joint finances, pets, you name it. It can be long and exhausting to get through it at first, but the absolute peace and freedom you gain once you make it through is irreplaceable. You deserve better than staying with someone who’s still obsessed over his ex and acts like a petulant child when he doesn’t get to use you as a placeholder while shamelessly clinging to his little momentos of a dead relationship.

No. 258632

>>258626
Trust your gut on this one. Having pictures with an ex in them isn't inherently bad imo but his defensiveness about it and desire to hide them is a definite red flag. If they were innocent and meant nothing it wouldn't be a problem to share them with you. If he's claiming to hide them for her privacy, they're probably nudes. If he's hiding them because he has a big collection, even if they're not nudes he's lusting after her at best and still seeing her at worst. Leave him nona. Breakups are always messy but you will be better for it. If you feel it could turn dangerous make sure you have some backup with you when you break it off.

No. 258640

>>258629
Thanks so much for the kind words and support. I think I'm going to take some time to evaluate things. It always comes down to negligence on his part - that he's forgotten about it and that i'm the one that cares about her more than him. The other day he mentioned he had "a friend from x (his ex gf)" and talked about them for a while. When I asked about it he said it was a friend from highschool and got angry with me when I told him I knew he was talking about his ex.
>>258632 i feel the same way about him having pictures of her and gave him the benefit of the doubt. I think he really misses the way he looked when he was with her and his life back then. Theres so many complexities to his situation and the way he feels.

No. 258641

>>258640
I hope things turn out well for you anon but I think he's gaslighting you or you're making excuses for him because you want this to work. He misses how he looked and his life? Then what exactly is wrong with you seeing them? Why does he have to clean up before you can see these totally innocent pictures that simply spark nostalgia? There is something wrong here and you feel it but you don't want to believe it and just want to put it out of your mind. This is not a recipe for a good relationship.

No. 258657

>>258640
>got angry with me when I told him I knew he was talking about his ex
Did you say it in an okay/neutral tone? If you did and he's getting this defensive then that's not a great sign in itself.

We had anons lately asking about old insta pics but a polaroid sitting in a bedside drawer is another level.
>We argued about it but I gave up in the end
I was with someone before where we fell into a pattern of me trying to bring up issues and him shooting me down by simply being so pissed off that I felt the need to back down to de-escalate shit. In the end this man cheated and in the weeks before our split I kinda picked up on it and while weirdly calm I asked him.. and he snapped. Just like always. And then he told me the news in his own sweet time. That was all a shit lesson to learn. I thought I had a backbone but I clearly need to work on that. It's pure aggression if you use anger to shut one partner down on a consitant basis so that they can't raise issues anymore. Decent men with nothing to hide don't pull that shit.

No. 258666

>>258386
I'm trying to become less avoidant and more available. Tips?

No. 258671

>>258666
Nta but is it long distance or an irl relationship?

I'm avoidant and ime in the past if I spent too much time talking online to a guy before meeting him.. I'd usually just ghost him very suddenly one day so it would all amount to nothing. That's why I ask.

No. 258687

How do other anons go about dating? Do you consider dating a one man at a time exclusive commitment or do you basically date multiple at once and then decide who's going to be the guy you want to move forward into a long term relationship with?
I met a guy recently who seems like he's more compatible with me overall, but we haven't met IRL yet due to distance. He lives over 100 miles away, so I'd have to set aside free time who knows when to finally meet him. However, there's a guy who's local who I have thought about pursuing to date and we see each other very often, it feels more natural in a sense. I think I am more frustrated on choosing between a LDR with initial higher compatibility or someone more physically present that I know I already get along with.

No. 258695

>>258687
I can't date multiple people at once because I get attached way too quickly. However I have been hurt in the past after dating someone online and not meeting for a long time - then hen we finally met I realized we weren't compatible despite seeming compatible over text.

Who would you be sadder to lose? Who do you feel more excited by?

No. 258698

>>258695
Hmmm… you bring up a good point about IRL incompatibility. I'm going to offer to voice/video chat with this guy who lives further away. I think I'm excited by him being "hard to get". I think it would be sadder to lose the local guy because we already hang out on an almost weekly basis.

No. 258704

>>258698
Defo get on video chat and just see how he talks/moves/etc. Thinks you can't tell over text. But give him a chance if he really seems that compatible

No. 258730

>>258671
Neither ATM. I would really just like to learn how to stay in touch.

No. 258731

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My boyfriend very unexpectedly broke up with me last night. I know these things don’t just tend to come out of nowhere but I was very blindsided. I’m really hurt and I feel like he did it impulsively and out of fear rather than a real desire to break up.

For context, I’ve know him for a few years and always had a bit of a crush on him, but never actually pursued anything because he was in a long term relationship. In the Fall I found out he was recently single and we ended up going out on a few dates. I know it was risky as the previous breakup was fresh but I was going in with expectations that we would just have some fun. We ended up official and spending a lot of time together. I tried to let him set the pace of the relationship to make him more comfortable. He asked me out, he was the first to declare is bf/gf, he told his parents about me first, and I tried to check in a lot to make sure he was comfortable and he always said yes. He even had admitted he had had a slight crush on me for awhile too but didn’t pursue for obvious reasons. We recently went on a spa trip together and had a lot of fun, though once we got back I did feel like something was off but he wouldn’t open up to me. I didn’t push it though.

Last night I suggested we all go out with some friends and everything was normal. Later in the night I ended up having a massive Autism moment and just kinda shut down due to things that weren’t even about him. Sometimes I get in really bad mental spaces where everything overwhelms me and I literally physically cannot speak until I am able to calm down. We had to leave early and it took me a few hours to fully communicate what had happened to him. I asked to spend the night because I was too exhausted to drive. We went to his bedroom and I was trying to explain to him what had happened, and he admitted he couldn’t handle all of my emotions in his current state and that we needed to break up. He had always been there for me through other instances so I was pretty floored.

He then starts talking about how he wasn’t able to fall in love again, but also that he “could see himself falling in love with me”? He also said that he felt badly about leading me on, but that he thought extremely highly of me and had been incredibly happy during out time together. We talked about some other things that were just circular and I tried to leave but he kept begging me to stay and talk more. I caved and went back inside and we talked some more. We talked previously about how unhappy he was in his previous relationship and how codependent they were and how they had been unhappy for awhile. I told him that I felt like he was pushing me away because he was scared and choosing unhappy memories over me. He agreed that that might be the case and asked that I give him some more time to think over some things. I said I could but that I also had to consider us fully broken up in the meantime because I couldn’t handle the on a break vagueness and get my hopes up. He said that was okay. The last thing I asked him was if he thought saying that ‘could fall in love with me’ was just talk for ‘already is’ and he still said no. He then asked me if I had fallen in love with him and I was honest and said yes and this really upset him. During this I told him that I should go a few more times and each time he kept begging me to stay. He also was trying to hold me but kept getting really upset when I wouldn’t let him.

Long as fuck but I’m just trying to figure out what the fuck even happened? Despite him being the one who initiated the breakup he kept being clingy with me and very clearly didn’t want me to go. He was very into me the whole time we were together, always asking about my job or daily plans and saying good morning. He would buy me very thoughtful personalized presents and was extremely affectionate. I feel like he pulled this because he’s afraid of his feelings for me but that also feels like a cope because at the end of the day I was just a rebound.

No. 258732

>>258731
I forgot to say that I had never pushed talking about whether we were in love for fear of pushing him away like this. I definitely knew I was falling in love with him but I didn’t want to say anything too soon. The first time we even talked about the “L” word was him bringing it up last night, which he kept going back to while we were talking. I don’t know why he was so fixated on it when we hadn’t even talked about that milestone yet.

No. 258736

>>258731
I'm sorry to say it, but bailing out is the worst move possible in a relationship, and I don't believe in building anything back from that. It's a waste of time and wellbeing. I've seen couples get through pretty much everything, even cheating, except one of them leaving the other. You can have a bad relationship back for a while until the SO loses it again but that's it.

No. 258737

>>258731
Dude wasn't actually ready to move on from his previous relationship. This didn't come out of nowhere, he just wasn't communicating. He does care about you and wants you around but primarily when it is convenient for him. He's not fit to be in a relationship right now and trying (or hoping) to get him back is bound to fail. Let this one go.

No. 258769

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i'm going through a divorce from my husband of 5 yrs (12 years together) and had i posted this a couple of weeks ago it would be filled with smadness.

but as the weed dust settles from reflexive self imposed NEET-ing i'm filling with nuanced joy. i don't have to do any more orgasmless sex hehe. my body is my own again. can't describe you how much it hurt. not that the climax didn't 'cum' but that he didn't care enough to try like….THAT hard. i've seen this dude mash buttons for litcherul hours in pursuit of some esoteric pixellated pootytang and yet i still suspect that after 12 years to inspect my hardware he can't tell where the pee comes out.

so nonnies this is painful to separate but also a rare moment of purity. i can find someone now whom i not only love but actually want to fuck too.

>>258731
i'm sorry and i know you're hurting. this sounds like it's for the best though. he's probably going to reach out again. be strong anonette

>>258666
that's tough satan…maybe have a regular game or movie night (or if you are LDR via facetime or w/e) where you can do something low pressure but consistent

>>258626
that's not a normal reaction. trust yourself on feeling like you want to break up with him. and i understand sticky for sure but you're worth more than this!

No. 258781

my girlfriend has been overweight for several years now (i think she's beautiful no matter what) though she's recently been very adamant about losing weight and i want to be encouraging but i also don't want to make her feel insecure by seeming TOO eager, you know?
i already sort of make her feel insecure passively, for example when we go places i'll get dressed up and wear makeup and she'll throw on whatever is comfortable, and a couple times i've been flirted with in front of her by scotes too stupid to realize me and her are a couple… and she'll get upset, not because she wanted that attention but because she said she feels like people see her as an "ugly best friend"
she's so pretty, but i know she'd be much more confident in her appearance if she lost weight… so to get back on topic… how can i encourage her without making it seem like i don't appreciate her current appearance?

No. 258786

>>258781
focus on the health aspect when she brings weight loss up w you and reaffirm your attraction to her. just keep implementing subtle healthy habits in both of your lives to show her you’re with her for this journey she wants to start.

No. 258790

>>258731
I've been blindsided by a break up before, like five years in, so I was ready to back you up that it happens but… tbh you're only a few months in and this is alot very soon. Especially all the in-love talk at the break up point. I feel like it makes sense that a seemingly small hurdle was enough to put doubts in him this early. Obviously it sucks that he gave you a false impression but even in better circumstances than this (ie no rebound) the first few months are kinda a test zone where it might not take much for one partner to pull away their investment in you.

And if an autism/mental health episode is all it took to set this into motion then I wouldn't put any effort into trying to make this work if by some chance he changes his mind again. People living with ongoing mental health issues need stability in their relationships. He can't be that so it's best that he admitted it now and not later. I spent years with a person only to be dumped over the same old mental health issues I'd always had. They didn't get worse but as expected they were long term.. that almost makes you wish they'd just left you earlier if it was always going to be the breaker.
>I feel like he pulled this because he’s afraid of his feelings for me but that also feels like a cope because at the end of the day I was just a rebound.
Agree. I can understand why people rebound, the temptation to skip over pain and jump straight into new fuzzy feelings is real. I'd warn anyone on the other side of that scenario to think straight seeing as the other person often isn't. This isn't love. He sounds a lil emotionally unwell himself and ought to take a break from dating. He tried to skip past a bunch of unresolved feelings and in the end all that did was hurt you too.

No. 258794

>>258786
this is really helpful advice, thank you!

No. 258810

>>258360
A good morning/night text takes seconds to do (they can even set up automated texts if they're forgetful, though that does take away a bit of the sentiment) so I always see it as a bare minimum to do it if my partner wants it.

I told my boyfriend it was important to me a year or so ago and every day he always sends me a text now so it's not hard to do it's more about if they respect what is important to you.

No. 258818

>>258731
I'm sorry nonna, you won't like this but you were just a rebound. Maybe he really thought everything would be butterflies and rainbows but let's face it, everyone has their demons and most men are shit at facing their SO's so he ran away as soon as he realized it wasn't gonna be perfect.
Please stay away from people who can't stay single for at least a year.

No. 258862

"You are the mix of the 5 people you hang out with the most"
How do I get my boyfriend to stop hanging out with his friends that are bad influence?
Everytime they hang its:
>drinking too much
>binging junk food
There is even a manwhore who loves to be the center of attention and thinks everyone should be a swinger.
Whenever he comes home after being with them I just can't stand him. He acts different like a fuckboy. I am trying to make friends (new to the city) and am willing to invite him out with us once that happens but until then, what? I know it has to be manipulation because you can't just tell someone to leave their friends behind but they suck so much. Give me your ethical or unethical tips on how to friendship bust, please, for my sanity.

No. 258868

>>258862
The fuckboy is the real him. Whatever nice persona he shows you is just an act to keep you around. Save yourself the energy of trying to fix him and break up.

No. 258875

>>258289
Hi nonnies it's me again. I hadn't spoken to him since the break up and I was doing a little better but he messaged me regarding some of my stuff he is posting to me and I just got upset all over again.
He keeps apologising and saying he likes me as a friend and would like to be friends. I said I couldn't have a friendship with him if I still had feelings for him.
He said the reason he didn't tell me sooner is he felt like logically there was nothing wrong and he should be happy.

Thank you to the nonnies that replied to my post, I appreciate being able to get things off my chest

No. 258885

>>258862
This >>258868 without a doubt. I was hopeful for my ex when he dropped the most blatantly gross of his acquaintances, like the ones with 3 baby mommas who literally shot up and barfed from too much booze on the weekends, but he was still left with the casual misogynists who thought it was peak humor to make rape jokes, tease each other about how much they watch porn and call all women bitches. Bottom of the barrel shit. He could be sweet with me but I was on some pickme copium to believe they were doing those things "ironically" and weren't taking it seriously. If you find humor in sexist things, it's because you partly agree with those views. Sorry but your bf is scum and you cannot change him because he doesn't want to change. Otherwise he would have separated from them already. Hopefully you develop enough self respect to leave because you need to take your own advice. You're dragging yourself down by proxy anon.

No. 258899

Where do you find men that aren't ultra religious conservative but also aren't porn sick and publicly simping only fans girls as part of libfeminist larp? bout to give up at age 30, feel like all men are gross narcs

No. 258904

>>258875
You need to cut this off. Life's too short to bang your head against brick walls. If someone broke up with you, it's over.

No. 258905

>>258899
Best bet is those that aren't terminally online and usually kind of outdoorsy, so you have to go into real world spaces. Backpackers are obviously another kind of gross, but I've met some (seemingly) decent guys that aren't super into social media in rock climbing and martial arts gyms, hiking groups, volunteer orgs and other smaller hobby-based groups local to my area.

No. 258908

>>258731
This anon here. I feel so stressed because he hasn’t reached out again but it’s literally been a day and a half. I am going full no contact. I know I need to cut my losses but it’s still really hard. I’ve been with a decent share of men who didn’t give a fuck about me and while I know he has a lot of issues he wasn’t like that. His actions always backed up his words and which is why I felt so safe with him. I don’t think he was putting on a persona to get pussy but I do think he’s being a coward now that it’s getting more real.

Obviously I’m biased but I think some of the conventional wisdom about how breakups should be dealt with are bull. I went into this knowing full well he was not over his ex and if he had just communicated how he was dealing with it I think we could’ve worked things out. I’ve been in relationships where I was the one rebounding and ended up much happier with the new person than I was with that ex. I’ve had a lot of misery in my life and at this point I’m sick of choosing safe options that leave me miserable over change that can make me happy. I can’t force him to see my perspective though and I’m not going to beg.

No. 258929

Sometimes I'm really frustrated by how my boyfriend and I have different backgrounds. I'm upper middle class but he's from a working class background. For the most part I don't think it's big deal but I feel like he gets really offended by what I say.

Yesterday I said I went to a Lolita meetup and didn't know what to talk about so I asked people about their jobs. My boyfriend said it was extremely rude and judgmental. I admit I do judge people based off of their jobs but I think it's a normal question to ask in the US.

Another time he said I was really judgmental of a girl we met at a party. She lives in Alaska but was going to college in Maine. I said I wonder where she was going to school and that I would be impressed if she was going to one of the prestigious colleges in Maine. My boyfriend got defensive and said I shouldn't look down at people who are less fortunate than me.

But all I know about her is that she had an addiction, used meth, and went to rehab. Idk I guess that's usually a sign of someone being lower class but there are some rich kids who have addiction and it's not cheap going to college across the country and not closer to home. I really swear I wasn't judging her for being lower class, I just think my boyfriend was defensive because he's self conscious about his background.

The weird thing is my boyfriend says he isn't interested in dating someone more similar to him. But idk why because I feel like it's not a surprise that someone from my background is going to be "snooty."

No. 258933

>>258929
I'm in a relationship where our economic backgrounds are the reverse of yours and tbh I think your boyfriend is being very self concious about this. Over the course of my relationship/getting to meet more upper middle class people there have been a couple of rude assumptions made about me (although all were made innocently) but I wouldn't put the things you said around him in that category at all. You never assumed he or that other girl were stupid or anything like that, and you didn't other them from you. In both situations you were just making normal conversation, especially the job talk thing, which is super normal. You heard him out, but there's not really anything about your behavior that needs to be adjusted if that's all that happened.

No. 258936

>>258929
>my boyfriend says he isn't interested in dating someone more similar to him
The hypocrisy. He wants to distance himself from his background but is still triggered by your comments because he's insecure about being seen as "low class." I had something similar happen with an ex, after enough experiences of him projecting I just straight up said it's not about you, I'm allowed to have opinions and I've never even said anything cruel. Don't let his issues trick you into thinking you're being snooty, you are not.

No. 258942

>>258929
He's definitely insecure about it while trying to secure his bag with you lmao

No. 258949

Okay nonas how do I tell a guy I don’t want to hangout with that my bf wouldn’t be comfortable with it? I don’t want to sound like some doormat under lock and key of my man, but idk how else to say no. Also, tbf my bf knows this guy has asked me out before so he really wouldn’t be comfortable with it.

No. 258950

>>258949
You don't need to give him a real, or any, reason beyond a "no." But if you want to cushion it say you're just too busy to hang out with people beyond existing friends.

No. 258961

>>258904
I'd agree that dumping / giving up is some sort of ultimate rubicon, but this is the last issue with this guy. Douchebag was just using her as rebound plain and simple.

No. 258994

>>258626
This anon again. Confronted him about it. He said he was unaware of this, tore the drawers out of his bedside table and sorted through everything. He found another picture of her in a box of momentos. I said some pretty shitty stuff about his ex girlfriend that was all in the same vain as he had said in the past but must have overstepped the boundary when i said something about her family as a whole. He got up, scolded me and said how he didn't know why or how i could talk about someone less priveliged than myself and make jest of it. I regretted saying those things almost as soon as i said it as i was just recycling what him and his dad had told me about their family. Both broke down and made ourselves pretty sick. Nothing good was going to come out of us just shouting so we went to sleep by ourselves, expecting to talk things through and sort things out the next day. I was just about building up the confidence to talk things out with him until he was cleaning up the mess from yesterday i sat down and read through some of the cards. This was all done in front of him, after he had "sorted" through everything. He didn't object to me looking through any of it. i found a letter in an envelope that said something along the lines of, "Thanks for being a top guy! Look after yourself" with about $25 in it. I asked him who it was from, he looked over it, said he didn't know. I said to him that the spelling of one of the names was unsual which was when he bit his tongue and told me it was the parents of his ex girlfriend. I'm not sure if this was stupidity or him faking it but he clearly knew enough about her family to defend them yesterday.

No. 259002

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>>258731
Okay he just reached out to me and said he had been thinking about me. I can’t tell what he wants at all.

No. 259006

>>259002
He's trying to string you along. Leave it alone anon, you're done. Move on from him. You deserve better.

No. 259022

>>259002
Seriously anon cut him off. Block all his methods for contact, he broke up with you he is no longer allowed access to you. His own fault for feeling remorse since he clearly finds it difficult to be alone with his own dumb ass. Trust me if you got back together now he would eventually take you for granted again and you'd have to go through this all over. People typically don't get over issues they had that led to a breakup months or even years down the line and you'll have found something better by then regardless. Nothing has or will change in the span of a few days. Spare yourself the additional pain.

No. 259033

I have an amazing husband. He's a "dream himbo" type. He loves me, we have tons of fun together, he works hard and provides for me, he isn't a pornsick man child, but our sex feels kinda boring and empty.
I would take having a boring sex life if it means having him, I love him more than anything, but I really want us to have fun.

He hasn't had sex before me, he's fooled around with girls but never had sex, and I don't know how to introduce him to new things. I found my own sex drive getting weaker and weaker by the day.
How do I introduce him to new things?
How do I get myself excited for sex again?

He's literally the hottest man I know, inside and out, and I'm not even doing anything about it

No. 259048

>>259033
Super jealous of you scoring a virgin loving himbo husband, congrats. I think this
>How do I get myself excited for sex again?
Is more important than this
>How do I introduce him to new things?
Because the answer to the latter is just to say "hey I want to try (some new thing) during sex" and any man in his right mind is going to say yes to more ways to enjoy sex kek. You need to figure out what could be exciting to you anon. Would you like it if you both did more dirty talking? Do you want to be more dominant, him to be more dominant? New positions? New locations? Outfits? Roleplay? More foreplay? Want to try certain toys? Do some browsing and think on it, if you have any particular fantasies you can usually approximate them one way or another with your partner.

No. 259068

>>259002
Nonna I mean this in the nicest way possible but please repect yourself and block him. He can't have his cake and it eat too. You deserve better.

No. 259075

>>259033
Do you discuss sex with each other? And does he have an idea of what he likes? Honestly you can figure out so much by just sitting with each other over wine and having a sexy chat about the things you like/want in the bedroom. Given you're married I'm sure he'll receive it well, and the conversation itself could lead to something steamy. These conversations don't have to be boring and formal.

No. 259099

>>259033
My bf was similar and my best advice is to just offer new things as you're doing it. I would say things like "hey lets try this position" and if he's a good dude of course he should respect that and follow through. Of course don't do anything he seems visibly uncomfortable with but otherwise your best bet is to just be upfront with suggestions during sex and I'm sure he will go through with it. And with time he will just get the hang of it.

No. 259100

>>259033
>How do I introduce him to new things?
Just communicate that you want to try something new or to spice it up. Go shopping for toys together, share a fantasy you haven't fulfilled yet. Ask if there's anything he's into that you haven't explored.

How do you end up married to someone who you can't just discuss sex with though? Did you marry very quick or hold off on sex til you were already married?

No. 259117

>>258994

Why would you give your daughter's bf money in the first place? They must have had a really close relationship with their family

No. 259123

should you tell your partner if your parents don’t like or approve of them?

No. 259124

>>258994
>Thanks for being a top guy! Look after yourself" with about $25 in it. I asked him who it was from, he looked over it, said he didn't know. I said to him that the spelling of one of the names was unsual which was when he bit his tongue and told me it was the parents of his ex girlfriend. I'm not sure if this was stupidity or him faking
Well there's your confirmation that's he's still lying to you even when getting to the bottom of this is important to move on atm. He's hiding something and refusing to give you answers. I wouldn't trust him. I wouldn't stick around and put up with him lying to your fave and playing dumb. Whatever his secret is he has clearly prioritised it above you and your trust.

No. 259131

>>259048
I'll try to explore myself more. I was in one other long term relationship which was horrible and abusive, so having a normal sex life is something even I'm getting use to. I guess I need to figure out what gets me excited.

>>259075
This is really good advice. I tried talking to him normally, and I think that might make it hard to talk about. He's a bit shy with sexual stuff

>>259100
We've been together for 4 years, but weren't able to be together all the time before we were married because of our jobs. We'd have sex when we visited, and sent stuff in texts while we were far away. We (obviously) live together now, and do have sex, but not all the time, and he's not really sure what he's into. I know some things he's into, but he's she beyond telling me a few things. He's never had a partner or friend as close as we are, so it's new to him, even after all this time.

I think I got it, though. I need to figure out my problems first, and just have a conversation with him but at a good time when he's in the mood to talk about it.
Thanks nonas
Any extra advice is still very appreciated

No. 259132

>>259123
Absolutely not unless you anticipate the parents reaction to them when you hang out together to be very obvious, in which case you have to prepare them for it

No. 259155

>>258994
If im gonna be honest I think its totally possible that he forgot about those items but I don't think this excuses him having them. Being too lazy to throw away this stuff and making the same mistake over and over again is still something that shows he doesn't care. Does he understand this puts the relationship in jeoprady? Why would he keep doing this? Also, him keeping the letter and cash from the parents seems like an ego stroke.

No. 259165

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My boyfriend of several years wants to take things to the next level and move in together once the housing market gets unfucked a bit. But he's also expressed concern for how we go long stretches without communication (we're not in a ldr, but we do live on opposite ends of the city and I'm the only one who drives) and he wants me to be more open with myself and my problems. I was heavily abused by my mother and have developed the habit of not talking about anything because if she learned anything about your personal life or you admitted feelings to her she'd mock and use them against you for literal decades after. I have a really hard time trusting people with anything now.

I bring this all up because I'm a secret TERF and feel like if we're going to be living together and considering going even further in our relationship I'll have to be honest with him about that. Not to name names but he is a part of the speedrunning community and that place is a hotbed of trannies and several of his acquaintances have trooned over the pandemic (one insecure gnc black gay/bi man and one obvious disgusting slob AGP). I'm not really concerned about him trooning because he has zero interest in porn and has never ever expressed any weird deviant behaviour but I need him to know any troonery and I will immediately dump his ass. Still I'm worried to say this because being open as a terf can get you ostracized from your entire social circle and I'm afraid of that happening if I tell anyone.

A lot here I guess but what would you nonnies do?

No. 259175

>>259165
You're already a few years into dating and these kinds of views are becoming an important thing for couples to either agree on or agree to tolerate in each other. Dont sign a lease without having this talk first if it's make or break for you. If it goes badly then it's better to find that out now while you've less ties.

And not to burst your bubble but your bf ..of several years .. lives seperately.. other side of town to you.. you cannot tell me in all confidence that the man doesn't watch porn. According to this thread men just don't watch porn. Men who have all the oppurtunity to do it in peace and never be found out don't watch porn?

No. 259209

>>259165
>Lives separately
>Goes a while with no contact
>You drive to him
Anon please stop torturing yourself. The fact you felt the need to hide the community he's in says everything. Men can be extremely convincing but come on now, step out the box and look at the picture

No. 259216

>>259165
Yeah I'm not really seeing the point to dating/becoming more enmeshed with a guy who doesn't drive and is involved in speedrunning, and to top it off you aren't even confident that you can trust him with your terf beliefs. To me, the guy you're with shouldn't be someone you're afraid of knowing your beliefs, even the controversial ones. Doesn't mean that he has to agree (well, in this case it would be ideal) but you shouldn't have to be afraid of him simply knowing. Only options I see are sitting him down and having a serious conversation where you both put everything out there before moving in, or just breaking things off.

No. 259239

>>259165
I'm surprised that you've been dating for years but haven't talked about any of this stuff. Like, sussing out whether a guy may be okay with troons is something you can (and should) do within a few months. Sames goes for figuring out if he's at least sympathetic about TERFy beliefs. The lack of driving is pretty juvenile and I'd be worried that once you move in together he'd become reliant on you as the only one who can provide transport. The porn stuff… yeah I won't get too into it, but I will say even the most normal guys typically do it and when you don't even live together, it's impossible to say for sure. Even then they can be very sneaky about it. I definitely wouldn't be moving in anytime soon when there are still so many big, make or break issues you haven't discussed. With how little you know about him and have shared with him, in addition to his lack of self sufficiency, he comes across more like someone you'd date casually for a few months then drop, not a potential long-term partner.

No. 259266

My (now ex?) boyfriend and I have been dating for three years now, living together for one. We have a wonderful relationship but with one big problem: he wants to move and I don't. He has lived here in Florida his whole life and is not a fan. I, on the other hand, was a military brat and moved around my whole life. I want nothing more than to settle down and I've grown quite attached to Florida the last three years I've been here.

We both knew about this incompatibility from the beginning but foolishly chose to ignore it since we liked each other so much. But recently the issue has come to a head and my boyfriend has gone from daydreaming about the possibility of moving in the future to essentially saying he can't stand it here any longer and he desperately needs a change. In order to keep our relationship we worked out a potential compromise - he could go live in some city out West (he's a hiker) for 3 months out of the year and be here in Florida the rest. He works a well paid remote job so financially it would not be an issue. However, he was uncertain the compromise would work, and worried it would only fuel his desire to leave and we'd be delaying the inevitable. We decided he would go out to Seattle for 1 month to see how he liked it and hopefully come to a decision:

Well, this week marks the end of his month in Seattle and today we had the conversation I was dreading. He told me he loves me more than anyone he's ever loved, that he hates that he feels this way, but he loves Seattle and simply can't see the compromise working out. He wants to move there for good. We tried going over other possibilities to keep our relationship but couldn't come to an agreement. He says he doesn't even know he wants to stay in Seattle permanently and might want to live a nomadic lifestyle and feels that would be unfair to me since he knows I crave security. We decided the only thing to do was end our relationship.

I'm fucking devastated. And now I'm wondering if I'm stupid to give up the person I love just to live somewhere I like. I could make new friends. Come and visit Florida often. Maybe the upheaval is worth it if I get to spend time exploring the world with the person I love. I'm not against an adventurous life full of travel, it sounds fun, I just also love having a place to call home. So what do you think nonnies, is the relationship ending for the best so I can stay in the place I feel at home? Or should I say "screw it" and follow the person I love so dearly?

No. 259274

>>259266
It sounds like hes already said his piece and has come to terms with it. Dragging your feet at this late point seems useless. You want to finally settle down in one place and he's maybe even going to live a nomadic life… not just one move, that's too big of a one sided compromise to make. On top he's not asking you to anymore.

I've learnt over the years, if a guy is breaking up, saying you won't work out, saying he wants this other thing that just isn't compatible with you etc.. let go once he's already put that out there.

No. 259280

I'm embarrassed at how much effort I put into a guy before I even met him. It was always me reaching out, me giving him gifts for his bday, me making it clear I liked him. Then when we finally met he did put effort in but he never paid for anything, never set up anything more than a walk around his area, it was always me traveling to see him, and always when his parents were away. Now it's been months and he hasn't asked to see me.

I know he's also busy and he's probably genuinely autistic, but I'm tired of putting effort in. I was confused at first because we talked for so long, every day, and when with him he was very affectionate. Then I realized he just wants occasional sex and a penpal to rant to every day. I mean men take flights to see their gfs and this one won't lift a finger to see me despite living in the same city.

I go between wanting to end it, and just keeping him as a penpal forever so I have someone to talk to every day. Him being hot is also why I don't want to end it. Literally every man is ugly in my city, I go years without seeing someone attractive. And I will lose the will to live if I have to use dating apps again.

Should I end it?

No. 259285

>>259266
>I'm wondering if I'm stupid to give up the person I love just to live somewhere I like.
He is willing to give up the person he loves to live somewhere (possibly multiple somewheres) he likes, so why should you be the one to compromise? Women are almost always the ones doing so in scenarios like this. Respect your own needs as well as his and call it quits. Even if it was a great relationship people come and go, the only person you have from beginning to end is yourself. Make sure you're doing what's best for her, not him.

No. 259286

>>259280
>he just wants occasional sex and a penpal to rant to every day. I mean men take flights to see their gfs and this one won't lift a finger to see me despite living in the same city.
>Should I end it?
Obviously anon. I feel for you, I have a tendency to give a ton in relationships too and I genuinely like it, but I've realized it's only appropriate if I'm receiving the same in turn. I got tired of being the selfless wooer on a personal level and on a larger scale, considering we as women add so much more to men's lives than they do to ours. You want him around because he's hot and so you have someone to talk to? Make some female friends for companionship a thousand times more rewarding than a man will ever be able to give you and jill off to hot models or husbandos in all that free time you're not spoiling a lazy scrote. I understand that it's not the same as having a live person in front of you but the trade off of not having to deal with all the stress that comes with a real man is so worth it. (Plus I'm willing to bet you can make yourself orgasm far more efficiently than he did, if he did at all.) You owe it to yourself to only invest in a man if he proves worthy of you, not one who'll simply deign to fuck you whenever you journey to his location. That's messed up to say the least. Respect yourself.

No. 259288

>>259266
>And now I'm wondering if I'm stupid to give up the person I love just to live somewhere I like
Not at all. The sense of home, belonging and security are basic physological needs. You're calling yourself stupid because that's an easier cope than facing the reality you and the person you love do not agree or work out on one of the most important, biggest decisions in one's adult life.

>Maybe the upheaval is worth it if I get to spend time exploring the world with the person I love. I'm not against an adventurous life full of travel, it sounds fun, I just also love having a place to call home

If you genuinely felt that way, it would've been your gut instinct to follow him exitedly to Seatle instead of dreading the day he would tell you he wanted to move there. Don't second guess yourself because, right now, that's an easier cope than coping with the fact your relationship can't work because you differ in one of the most important, biggest desires of one's adult life. Accepting that you didn't work out hurts right now but in the long run it'll allow you to find/keep your security in the place you love and find someone to settle down with in Florida (if you want someone new in your life), telling yourself you should suck it up and follow him and possibly leading a nomadic lifestyle offers some mental relief right now but in the long run it won't offer you the security you genuinely desire.

No. 259291

>>259286
Thanks anon you're right. I do enjoy giving a lot in relationships, but it hurts when it's not reciprocated. But it especially sucks how fooled I was that everything was all good because my dumb mind thought texting every day and being affectionate once in a blue moon meant something. No one texts me as consistently as him, not even my closest friends, so idk. I'll lose that and I'll feel even lonelier.

No. 259293

>>259280
> buying scrotes gifts
stopped reading there nonni

No. 259295

>>259293
I made him gifts, didn't buy him anything. Which might be worse lol

No. 259297

>>259295
NTA but you deserve better. Autistic men are shit and will expect to be babied while giving nothing in return

No. 259318

>>259280
This reminds me of a very short lived phase I went through. I had been dumped by my partner of 3 years and he moved on hella quick while we were still stuck living out the rest of our lease together. Sucked hard. I was low on confidence and just needed any male to fill the void. I met a guy online and he wasn't diagnosed but I swear he was autistic. He took a 20 min bus ride to see me so I bought the coffees and then we went on a walk after. Another time I bought us ice cream and we walked. A third time we went halves on a pizza because it was his idea to get food. I brought him back to mine for netflix a couple times and this guy got an erection while sat next to me on the couch. Everything was cheap or free or on me and I was insulted at that stage. I made excuses and never saw him again. Few weeks later I got talking to a diagnosed tist online and it was so one sided and low effort that I noped out in just a few days of chat. I'd learnt my lesson.

My point being.. you might be right about the autist thing. Unless their mothers really beat it into them that women generally require romance, effort… they just don't bother. They get what they can and are either oblivious to your needs or are being oppurtunistic about sex. They often don't have a whole lot of options so in a way they really screw themselves over when they ruin a good thing like that.

You're too good for this lazy set up. Finish it.

No. 259332

>>259318
Yeah it sounds like my experience. He's genuinely a good guy, so I don't wanna talk shit about him, but I think his autism is getting in the way of him understanding some things about dating. Everything we do feels cheap and he's fine going months without seeing me but it feels like it's because he's an autist and not because he's using me.

Either way I'm done. I think he's got away with it in previous relationships because he's very attractive.

No. 259370

I wasn't happy with my bf from the beginning and questioned our relationship ever since. Then covid hit and we were stuck in one apartment and it didn't make it better. It'll be 3 years in August and I don't want to go on anymore, but there is no "real problem". We have fun, we like each other, we help each other with rent. But that's it. I don't see the love. I keep saying that we are great room-mates and he keeps downplaying it. He doesn't want it to end and says he sees a future and kids and us growing old. I do not, like, at all. Seriously, everything is so dreadful. If I kick him out, I am the asshole and he will cry ugly tears and argh I don't want to do all of this

No. 259376

>>259370
You’re not the asshole. No one is entitled to your time. Your love. Your body. No one. You tried. You had a relationship. It wasn’t unhealthy. It’s wasn’t abusive, but it sounds like it wasn’t what you wanted. There’s two people in this relationship you and him. Both of you have to want to be in it. You don’t. Sucks for him, but that’s the game. He agreed to it. He’s hurt other people in the past he wasn’t into. He will again one day and so will you probably. 3 years isn’t that long in the grand scheme and you don’t want to stay with a guy because he “wasn’t bad”. The truth will set you free and as dramatic and messy as it might be you’ll probably feel better once it’s done. He’s a weight around your neck if you don’t want him there.

No. 259479

I've been considering breaking things off for a bit but I don't want to because he's a very nice person, I'm kind of ashamed to say that the reason I want to break things off (or at least take a break) is because for a year he's been identifying as nonbinary which caused me to peak and I've been spending a lot of time on bigoted internet spaces as one does.
He was peaking a few months ago but then went the other direction so I more or less lost all hope.

He should be aware of my beliefs because for his short lived peaking time period I spilled by guts out and told him what I really think of nonbinary people and I stopped using they/them pronouns for really anyone. Before peaking he wasn't aware of the larger trans online circle (he didn't even know what a terf was) but now if Jkr is mentioned he'll say "she's REALLY transphobic like SUPER TRANSPHOBIC" and onetime said I give off terf vibes, just a few days ago we got so angry at our friend group for suggesting to invite someone because the guy is . I really wanted to try and peak my nigel or at least be patient but I don't think I can any longer. Other parts of our relationship have started to weigh down on me. Other than that he's a really nice guy, he calls me everyday, he makes me laugh, he listens to me. I feel like the only reason I don't want this relationship to go is because I was an emotional mess and he still fell for me and I've been more or less stable. If I ever feel upset I can just … call him and he listens to me. He's my anchor. He gets me, he doesn't get annoyed at my anti-social habits and we can talk about anything with each other. We were really close as friends and I think we've been together for 4 years? most of it could honestly be considered LDR since corona ate up most of it.
I'm keep telling myself that I'm just splitting, it's me being an idiot when it comes to handling extreme emotions that's not making me see things clearly. I keep resisting the urge to just burn everything.

Sorry if this turned into a vent but I still appreciate advice. I know most of you would just say "break up with the tranny" kek.

No. 259481

This sounds lame as fuck and I prob sound like I’ve got whiplash in how I was all “how does one do online dating” when I posted here, but this sounds so stupid but gals help me out here. How do you actually know if you’re someone who deserves all the things you think you do (for the record; 5”3 - 130lb, curvy, gym 3 times a week, semi decent sales job). I wonder if I’ve just been sold false confidence and I’m looking for too much in that I‘m slightly off put by men who don’t remotely fit into either my ex’s template or some like wildly “better” than me thing. Or, do I kinda just look for someone who’s personality? Idk tinder is a hell fire, bumble is… knocking my confidence.

No. 259482

>>255143
Small comic book rant. Super hero movies and shows for some reason love making all origin stories intentionally tragic even if the character doesn't have a tragic story. The Flash is the best example, he got powers and decided to be a hero both his parents were alive and happy.

No. 259484

>>259479
why tf are you dating a man who identifies as non binary. do you not have any self respect? dump him and find a normal man, jesus christ anon. i want to be nice to you, but you have absolutely no spine it's embarrassing.

No. 259506

>>259479
>identifying as nonbinary
>said I give off terf vibes
>now if Jkr is mentioned he'll say "she's REALLY transphobic
>we can talk about anything with each other
Except for the fact he refuses to entertain any terfy beliefs or listen to you explain why the lgbtwhatever communtiy is a misogynistic shithole.
>Other than that he's a really nice guy
Girl you've got to know the whole "my boyfriend does doesn't agree with me on anything and we fight daily and he puts me down and never listens to me and also won't take out the trash… but other than he's a really nice guy!" is literally a meme at this point. Women will list 20 different things that show the guy is insane, obnoxious, useless and wholly incompatible with her, but hey, he's really nice. Being there for a partner, listening to them, spending time together as friends, are all absolute baseline attributes in a partner. They also need to match with your deeply held moral, social and personal beliefs. Raise the bar.

No. 259510

>>259506
>They also need to match with your deeply held moral, social and personal beliefs. Raise the bar.
This, I don't understand why everyone in these threads with similar complaints even wants to stay. Why would you want to be with someone you can't interface with honestly about everything? That's the whole point, imo

No. 259535

>>259511
Among queerios, sure. And? Even my ex who was pretty shit overall held openly "trans-exclusionary" beliefs and he just stopped interacting with anyone who whined about it. He and his friends frequently made fun of troons. There are plenty of men critical of it out there, don't pretend you're concerned for the poor scrotes when the real issue is women lowering their standards for some mediocre dick and "nice."

No. 259593

Does any of you have any advice on how to deal with being controlling and jealous?
In my past relationship the scrote seemed like a great and loving guy, fooled me for 2 years, when I found out that he was hitting on all of his female friends and hooking up with his best friend's girlfriend, it fucked me up for good. My current partner is extremely understanding and does everything he can to reassure me, but it's gotten to the point of enabling me and right now I feel like there may be no coming back and I'll never feel safe if I don't get to know everything he's doing and every little thing he talks about with others. It kinda hit me yesterday, as I was preparing to go back home, talking to my bf (he works longer hours close by), and my male coworker asked me if we're taking the same bus as he was passing by; I've realized if the roles were reversed and it was female coworker asking my bf I'd probably lose my mind. He's never given me a reason to be jealous but past hurt made me paranoid to the extreme and while I'm working on my self esteem in therapy IDK if it will help, because it didn't help in my previous relationship either. I'm feeling so helpless.

No. 259597

>>259479
>he's been identifying as nonbinary
Stopped reading there, just dump him nonna, don't torture yourself over a soyboy like that.

No. 259601

>>259479
Having different views on gendershit can be a make or break thing already but having different views AND one of you being a tran is just beyond the limits of compatibility.

I'm even saying this as a detran myself so I'm aware people change.. but not overnight and your attempts to peak him will probably only result in him lecturing you about trans issues or demonizing you to others. It's going to take a few years to find out whether he'll truly get lost down the tranny hole for good (incoming she pronouns) or whether he'll come back to reality someday, but I'd move on. Going from tran to peaked is a long process and you can't help him. Not to mention males that get wrapped up this stuff often just use it as leverage to shut actual women up. Don't put yourself through that.

No. 259604

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Generally, what's a reasonable time for couples to start freely exchanging "I love you"s? Disclaimer, am autist. Bf of 7 months (we've been friends for 2 years beforehand) can't tell me anything beyond that he cares about me, and rarely compliments me unless it involves something sexual. He will tell me he misses me though, but it's a little hard to tell whether he actually misses me or the things I do for him/just misses having company. I was a virgin before dating him, and he highly values sex in a relationship. Ideally, while I do like the sex, I value love in a relationship. I don't want to and know I can't force his feelings, but I admittedly have some baggage and this makes me feel unlovable, like he might not ever grow to love me.
That's pretty much my only hang-up in the relationship so far. He's basically my dream guy, and with how short we've been dating it isn't a dealbreaker for me yet. He's at least made it clear that he's in it for the long haul, which I'm happy about, but it's important to me to feel loved in a relationship and I don't want to wait around for 5 years just for my boyfriend to finally tell me he loves me for the first time.

>>259593
You weren't fooled, you were betrayed. The only fool is your ex with his disgusting sleazebag behavior. You're already doing great by being self aware and in therapy. Please thank your brain for trying its best to protect you the only way it knows how: based on your past experience. It sounds like your current partner is super supportive, and nothing like your ex.
It might take a long time to unwind your pain and retrain your "guard dog" brain, but it's absolutely possible. You can work on this and you can heal, good luck nona.

No. 259607

>>259604
Honestly, regardless of what the appropriate time to exchange I love yous is, you know you want love/romance out of your relationship and if he isn’t already giving you compliments or expressing his love for you, he’s just not the right fit. Even if you were to communicate this with him it’d just be him complying rather than him making his own effort. If he wanted to, he would.

No. 259613

>>259604
I am pretty autistic myself and my bf and I said it to eachother around 1-2 months into the relationship. Shit just felt right and it was almost bursting out of both of us to say it. I feel as though you just 'know' when to say it, and like the other anon said, if he isn't already expressing love for you the way you really need to, it could become rocky if either you say it first and he gets awkward/feels forced to say it back or you just end up waiting for forever in order for him to say it.

No. 259614

>>259604
Thank you for your compassion, I really hope that you're right and it's a matter of time to heal, will stay hopeful and keep trying♥
About the "I love you" thing, I'm presonally extremely awkward and wary about saying it (kinda for forementioned reasons too), so I'd delay it as long as possible not for the reason of not feeling it but out of the need to just make sure; not impossible that this is the case here. But it's a good idea to sit down some day and have a conversation about it, not even going into specifics like "when will you say you love me" but love language preference and general relationship expectations for the future. Something like this would definitely give you some clarity, and sice you say that he's made it clear he's in it for the long haul, should go ok so there's no reason to worry.

No. 259615

>>259604
Most guys tell me the first month.

No. 259620

>>259607
This is what I'm most worried about, a fundamental love-language mismatch. I want to be loved and not have to demand or beg for it. You're right, it wouldn't feel genuine anymore.

>>259613
>>259615
Good to know I'm not just being crazy. I felt the same way, like it was just bursting out of my chest constantly and I had to fight to keep it in. I felt ashamed like a lovelorn puppy that fell too hard too fast.
I forgot some important context in my first post. We're long distance, but 3 months in, I lived together with him for 4 months. It went fantastic, in all aspects except this. I did tell him I loved him, casually but explicitly, about 5-ish months in to the relationship. I got an "awww" in return, and this repeated about 3 more times before we talked about it (and talked about sex issues as well, because that had a bit of a rough patch). He doesn't want to feel pressure about saying it back, mentioned it took him 2 years with his ex, and that he's just a "slow guy." Just like >>259614 said, he's wary about saying it and wants to be absolutely sure that he's not making false promises or something. I won't lie, I felt heartbroken because beforehand I had assumed he felt the same way about me (with love totally bursting and such-and-such..).
I've stopped saying it because I don't want to pressure him, but it does admittedly sting a little seeing my friends and their partners be adorably sappy and express their love so freely.
Thank you nonas for your insight, responses, and for helping me vent as well

No. 259625

I recently started talking again to my “ex”. It wasn’t a proper relationship, since we’re an ocean away and never got to meet… we dropped the thing on friendly terms, but now that we’re talking again I dream of him every night and feel a nostalgic sense of “love never meant to be”. I am very clearly still pretty much “in love” with him, and I don’t want nor to drop the friendship, nor to “try again” only to see it fail because of the distance and everything. I missed him so much during the year we were apart, I wish I could just get him here or forget about this bittersweet feeling.
I am asking for “impossible love” movies advice here, nonnies…

No. 259626

>>259604
>>259604
>with how short we've been dating it isn't a dealbreaker for me yet
ehh be carefull with that one anon. 7 months isn't that short and before you know it you'll be 10 months in, a year in. What if you meet the 1 year mark (it'll be there soon enough) and he's still not ready to tell you anything beyond "I care for you"? Will you drop out then, after having wasted a whole year on him? Or will you continue going on because you've already invested a lot of time into him and you don't want to lose that investment, risking he may not come to tell you he loves you at all? Those are things to consider. You don't want to wake up one day and realize you've wasted a lot of time on a guy who's not going to tell you he loves you. Perhaps consider setting a silent timelimit for yourself (don't tell him) after which you dip out if he hasn't given you what you need to continue the relationship.

No. 259645

>>259644
you don't "edit" your posts or write that you "edited" it, this isn't reddit.

No. 259647

This is gonna be so retarded but I'm in my first ever relationship, before this I've only had casual sex and I have no idea what to do. Like, what should we be doing? What do we talk about besides the normal things? We are like friends right and I have no idea how to proceed and I don't want it to be one-sided where she is the only one 'leveling things up'. Since both of us are busy with work and studies, we meet like once or twice a week and we are only in the starting stages of dating where we have gone 'exclusive' which is kind of nice and a first for me, I'm very excited. Am I overthinking this? I like talking to her and I think she does too, but our conversations have been the same as if we were new friends. It's not that I mind it, I just want to confirm if it's how it's supposed to be or am I doing it wrong? I'm sorry nonnas, I'm in my early twenties, I've just never dated before.
>>259645
I'm sorry

No. 259649

>>259625
>I am very clearly still pretty much “in love” with him
No, you’re in limerence with him and fantasizing/obsessing about a person you don’t truly know since you’ve never met in person. I say this as someone who had a ldr for 2 years and then went on to marry said person (and subsequently divorce). While he was more or less the person I expected based on talking online, there is still SO much you will never know about someone until you are regularly interacting with them face to face. Even more so when it comes to living with them. It’s easy enough to idealize a person you actually can meet with, so it’s even more dangerous doing so when you can’t see all their little idiosyncrasies for yourself. You managed to survive for a year without this guy, don’t torture yourself with pipe dreams of true love by interacting with him again when you know it’s not going anywhere. With all due respect: Touch grass. Online relationships are wastes of time and not conducive to real romance. You will benefit far more from interacting with others in person. This guy is one man out of billions and he’s not making concrete plans to move across the world to be with you. He’s not special. I know women hate to hear there’s no “the one” but trust me it’s actually a huge relief when you come to understand there are countless men you could have decent relationships with as opposed to one single person you may never find. You probably won’t heed my advice right away but it’s funny how once you have a compatible flesh and blood man actively courting you and seeing you in person every week how quickly thoughts of this guy will disperse.

No. 259652

>>259625
Why are you dreaming about someone who didn't pull out all the stops to make things work with you? When you find the right person, distance doesn't even matter. He will move mountains to be with you. The fact that a man is so lukewarm towards you should be enough to turn you away forever.

No. 259670

>>259625
There's absolutely nothing there for you but senseless hurt. There's literally no relationship template worse or more frustrating than "constant with the ex". Once the spell breaks (and it will), you will regret so much the time you lost on this.

No. 259678

What are the best ways to get over someone who hurt you? And by 'get over' I mean 'stop wanting to murder'. It's been 6 months since we broke up, but I still spend hours every day thinking about getting revenge. It's pointless and I know it's not helping me heal from what he did to me, it's just another excuse to think about him constantly.

No. 259682

>>259678
Just kill him

No. 259689

>>259678
Meditation unironically. Give it a shot for a week or two, it really should help.

No. 259690

>>259678
are you in touch with the person? is it a scrote? drop a phonebook of deeply personal insults in his head and then block him forever. silence is what breaks them.

No. 259751

I have not wanted to have sex with my boyfriend for about a year and I don't understand why. I enjoy being around him otherwise and he's fit, attractive, and does his best to acommodate my literal autism and make me happy, but every time I feel his erection or notice any kind of arousal from him I shut down and panic. We've done it before and I guess it felt good, but several months into the relationship I started having a visceral reaction against it. Either he did something that really freaked me out and I'm just repressing the memory or I'm just going insane, because I can't remember anything but passionate, healthy sex and I still vehemently don't want it.

No. 259752

>>259678
i kek'd when i read your clarification

No. 259781

>>259751
Maybe he's not attractive to you anymore Nona. This happens to me with my LTR where I just find him unattractive sometimes but the other 99.9% he's good-looking to me.

No. 259791

>>259751
I've struggled with the same in previous relatiosnhips and like you I don't know the answer as to why it started being an issue.. apart from just the initial excitement being gone. One thing I do know is that both times I experienced it.. it was the beginning of the end for the relationship. I dragged things out and tried, I bought toys, I did stuff even when I wasn't really feeling it… I then thought that was a bad idea and I stopped making myself have sex… that didn't go down too well either. It was a dead end. I still loved them both times and fought to hang onto them but I couldn't save things.

Where is your bfs head at right now in regards to it, have you discussed it? Do you push yourself to do stuff anyway or have you been mostly deadbedroom for the last year?

No. 259811

>>259791
We have been dead bedroom for a while, which also stresses me out. He never makes me feel bad for it and would rather I feel safe and comfortable than force myself to do things, but he is a man after all and I don't know if this is sustainable. We still cuddle and I don't mind that at least. I also have a history with SA so I'm pretty sure that's poisoning the well.

No. 259819

I think I have a friendship problem.
So I'm a supervisor at a company as a second job. There's some mild physical labor involved but it isn't hard at all, I'm out of shape and fat af and I'm able to do it.
The skills are nice as they're transferable to some profitable fields, there is flexibility, and it isn't customer facing.
What made my job difficult initially was the fact that I was shortstaffed and pretty tired from a long work day. I was having to crunch all the work by myself and one other guy who cut corners and who had a language barrier which muddied my ops.
My operations manager put it on me to recruit my own team, so I asked my friends. We all went on a group trip awhile back and when I told them about the jobs they seemed really excited. It's part time work with the option to get more hours.
My two friends live together. One is 'Z' who is married to the scrote who owns the home, and 'X' who has been best friends with Z since school. She lives with them as a roommate to help with mortgage or whatever.
X has great work ethic because she's never had relationships or family to fall back on financially, so she's always had to earn and she wants badly to move out of their house.
Z, on the other hand, has had spotty employment. Now I know that she was only ever hired at past jobs based on knowing someone and hasn't keep a steady job for more than 3 years. We're all in our 30s. She was also diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder and while the treatment can be shitty, she absolutely has played up how debilitating it is.
Z also doesn't drive and doesn't make much income so she relies on her scrote for everything (spoiler: he does very little for her) which causes her to resort to simps, female friends, and X to drive her around and help her with her bullshit.
I hate Z's scrote. He's an emotional abuser, a cheater, lazy, an irresponsible spender, and a control freak. He's uggo too. She tried to leave him years ago before they got married, she stayed at my place for a bit. Yet she got back with him because when she moved back home she realized she would have to work very hard to become independent. Much of it is sunk cost too as it took him over a decade to propose to her after much goading. They put up a front but their relationship is a nightmare.
Anyways, the scrote gets pissed at Z for wanting to be stay at home (aka spending his money but keeping house and cooking dinner), and yet he also isn't supportive when she does get a job (refuses to drive her, still demands dinner, etc).

Fast forward to now: Z and X no called/no showed their first day of work this week–it was weird because they had made a big deal about wanting to start that day and while I didn't blatantly say "come to work today," I had sent them the address of the site and told them that ops said they could start. Guess I wasn't direct enough telling them they were good to start and sending them the address? I had to reach out to them to ask where they were, allegedly they didn't know I expected them in that day. I did not report that to ops manager as that would have been an awful look for them.
Second day, Z asks me if I can lift her to work. Z has a part time job at some friend's etsy shop where she complains about not being paid on time but she gets to fuck around all day so she keeps it. However it cuts awful close to this gig. My job pays more than the etsy shop, my company pays on time weekly, can offer her full time with career growth, and it's legitimate. Yet she won't consider ditching etsy friend. But I digress. I asked why X couldn't carpool since they live together, but she told me it's because X will need to start my job a half hour late some days cause of her first job. I guess she volunteers simps and other friends to drive her to the etsy place. Ok fine, I agree but I'm cautious about setting a benchmark of expectation because I'm not a fucking Uber and she isn't gonna pay me for gas. I have a second job because I need the money. Over the day, she kept pushing back the pickup time which would have made me late.
So I told her no and the time was now too late. She'd have to call an Uber, I'm the supervisor and the reason why I go in early is so I can prepare documentation and set things up. Z's house is 9 minutes away so she Ubered.
We had a pretty solid team work on Tuesday.

Wednesday Z doesn't show again but let me know it was because of going to the hospital for her autoimmune–fine, I told her it's okay and to log hours for document training at home. X shows.
Yesterday Z no shows. She claims X left her at the house, but X told me it's because Z was dallying and didn't want to be late. X tells me that Z just doesn't like working, but that Z also felt pressured to make her scrote his nightly elaborate asian dinner. X was actually a little miffed Z tried to shift blame.
Z claimed to have no money for Uber. I spoke to her pretty candidly asking why her husband couldn't drive her as he was home, and she said cause he told her it "wasn't his responsibility."
What. The. Fuck! Z has now only showed to work for one day out of her first week.
The last thing was that I needed them to send me their schedules so I can coordinate their on the job training so they can receive their security badges. The fact that I have to constantly supervise and let them in through doors means we're less productive with time and setup. X gave me hers.
Z informs me she can only work Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. X pointed out that they had agreed to M-F. I told her she would have to contact my manager or HR, it depends on what she signed in her employment contract if they can accomodate her.
No idea if Z is showing up tonight, no idea how to start the conversation if she doesn't.
It drives me crazy because this job would be very chill. I'm not a hardass supervisor and I can be flexible, but I feel like Z is taking serious advantage of the situation and my friendship. Anyone else would have been fired, so I'm not sure what to do.

No. 259820

>>259819
Forgot to also mention that the consequence of her picking and choosing what days she wants to work, if they can abide that, is that I am once again shortstaffing. She's making X and myself overwork.

No. 259821

>>259819
That all sounds very horrible and I'm sorry your friend is flaky, but what advice do you want here? This was all vent and no question.

No. 259831

>>259821
Sorry I was being unclear. I just don't really know what to say if this all falls through?
What would be the right thing to say?

No. 259860

>>259811
>I also have a history with SA so I'm pretty sure that's poisoning the well.
When I read your first post it came across like a trauma response, I'm surprised you're only mentioning this now? Of course that's a hurdle. I know it can seem odd when you were having decent sex early on, but I've known a lot of people with a history of SA who rubberband between being hypersexual and completely asexual, neither of which is a healthy way to cope. I would look into some books about how to recover from SA in the context of a relationship. Usually the answer is baby steps, rebuilding intimacy in general and slowly introducing more sexual things as you're comfortable. It's a learning process and can take a while but it's better than stagnating, assuming you do want to enjoy sex again (which I presume is the case since you're asking about it here).

No. 260006

>>259620
Honestly sounds like you're not a good match

No. 260018

>>258905
nta but how do you start a conversation? men tend to think i am hitting on them if i start a conversation

No. 260034

>>259627
That's what stood out to me too, and I'm surprised you're the first one to mention this yet.

No. 260045

>>260034
>>259627
NTA but I think it's a matter of personal beliefs, for me saying "I love you" (especially in my language, it's far less casual than in English) has much more meaning than physical connection; if saying it came too early in a relationship I'd be worried about this person taking it too lightly / being immature; physical connection is immediate though and requires no serious commitment love otherwise does, so it's doesn't feel unnatural to have sex before committing with your feelings with confessions like that.

No. 260046

>>260045
yeah same. i love you is a lot, it's also commitment, and some people don't want to commit before they find if you're sexually compatible. you can feel it and wait to say it later.

No. 260048

>>260034
Why? Most people have sex in the first few weeks or months if not after a few dates. Waiting months and months to have sex because you gaven't said "I love you" yet is weird, if anything you should have sex (if you're comfortable with it ofc) to find out if your sexually compatible and not after when you've already sunk a whole lot of time into the guy.

No. 260090

>>260046
>>260048
"Sexual compatibility" is honestly such a dumb libfem meme they made up to promote casual sex with no strings attached. Unless you are into some seriously fucked up BDSM bullshit there is just nothing you need to be "compatible" with before you start a relationship. Having good sex is something you work on with your partner over time, not something that magically happens if you just fuck enough men and one day you find the one that is "most compatible". Men are like dogs, you just train them to do what you want them to do over time. They can all learn the same tricks and the only reason some men are better in bed than others is because they have had a woman who trained them before.

No. 260105

>>260090
>Men are like dogs, you just train them to do what you want them to do over time.
True and based. “We need to test for sekshual compatibility” no you don’t, you need to test for whether a man is respectful of your boundaries, open and eager to take advice from you, appreciative of your time, whether he’s pornsick, how good he is at listening to feedback. All of which you can do without jumping in bed. If he passes the test regarding those things then he’ll be an attentive partner in bed who will go out of the way to please you and willing to listen to your direction.
>but what if I wait all that time and he has a small dick!?
Make out with him first and grope him a bit. Great way to test the waters and see if he doesn’t get pushy plus you will get a good idea of what his body is like.

No. 260109

>>258704
Update on the guy who lives farther away: I'm totally head over heels for this guy. Voice chatting was the best decision to make. We're going to video chat in a few days, but I've been nonstop talking to him over voice chat on a daily basis. We are bizarrely compatible. We are hoping plans to meet sometime this week.

No. 260116

>>260105
Agreed. My bf only had sex with two women (although I think it was only one) before me and was basically like a virgin in bed the first time we had sex, but over the course of us being together he has become fantastic and makes me cum every time now. It is something you learn together, not something that you needs to happen right away, and most of the time it just won't if you just start out having sex with a guy. You can experiment way better with your long term partner in whom you have a lot of trust and you both get to know each others bodies so well and that is the only time sex is ever really good.

Nonnas out there who are still dating, don't fall for this "compatibility" bullshit.

No. 260119

im venting mostly but im sad im not more sexually attracted to my nigel. hes really great and has a heart of gold but hes just so skinny, like skinnier than me, which is not a body type im attracted to. im trying to convince myself its not so bad if only because 1) i am also very skinny without feminine curves and 2) i actually have shit taste in body types myself. ive had a fat fetish since before i knew what fetishes were and by fat i mean like moid tier fetish morbidly obese. is it possible to learn to find attraction for this lanklet body type?

No. 260124

>>260090
you're right, although men who've had sex with 3 or more women who still suck in bed are hopeless

No. 260125

>>260119
yes, or you could just become a feeder

No. 260130

>>260119
Why don't you guys do some sports together to get fit and gain muscle?

No. 260138

>>260119
I'm kind of in the same situation, nonna. When I met my bf he was, going by the bmi-definition, anorexic. If we were playfighting I would physically overpower him, and I don't even lift. We moved in together, I learned how to cook, and now he's stabilized at a healthy weight, but he's just tall with a very slim frame. He's very self-conscious of it too. The other thing is, he has no body odor for some reason, which makes me sad because smell is a big part of my attraction towards guys. Other than that, he has objectively handsome features, like symmetrical face and high cheek bones, kinda boyish looks for being in his mid 30s. He's above my league looks wise tbh. And he's a sweetheart and doesn't mind me sperging about terf issues.

I wish I had any advice for you, I love my bf, but I miss being wildly attracted to someone.

No. 260140

Bump because of cp spam

No. 260211

>>260125
he has stomach issues so he hardly ever eats more than i do. sadly i dont think he would be happy if i forced him to drink gainer shakes as hot as that would be

>>260130
yeah, this is possible. i do think he works out semi regularly but the issue is that he just doesn’t eat enough food to be muscular. now im thinking about subtle ways to encourage him to drink protein shakes or something, maybe i should start drinking them in front of him??

>>260138
your bf sounds similar to mine, and i know how you feel. at least we can look forwards to the time when their metabolism starts to slow down

No. 260236

>>260211
Put in something calorie dense like peanut butter, or another plant butter if you guys are allergic to peanuts. Ask him if he wants to drink this delicious smoothie you made. And yes, drinking it in front of him sounds like a good idea! Subtle influence and pressure works.

No. 260251

>>260138
>skinny AND non-stinky
literally perfect, where do you find males like that

No. 260254

>>260119
You can't help what you are attracted to. Personally it also would make me feel like shit if my bf was skinnier than me, just makes you feel big and unfeminine by comparison. I have always dated men that were bigger than me, even chubby men because I like a bit of a soft belly plus you can wear their big clothes and feel all small and dainty in them. I couldn't even imagine if I couldn't fit into my bfs clothes.. It's normal I think to want to feel small next to your boyfriend, he is supposed to be the big protector who can shield you from harm, a skinny dweeb can't protect you so that's unattractive.

Usuallly you can't change skinny men either, with a fat guy you can help him lose weight but skinny men just hate food (can't relate) and will always be skinny.

No. 260257

>>260254
>Usuallly you can't change skinny men either, with a fat guy you can help him lose weight but skinny men just hate food (can't relate) and will always be skinny.
I've seen tons of skinny men become fat later on in life, usually after having kids and/or becoming an alcoholic. Even common with male celebs too despite having easier access to healthy food lol.

No. 260259

I can't tell if I'm gaslighting myself or not. Yesterday my boyfriend didn't respond to my morning message, so after hours of silence I sent him a "?" and he responded in less than a minute apologising and saying he was busy. In my opinion it takes 2 seconds to say "hi, sorry, I'm going to be busy today, ttyl" so if it's total silence for 8 hours then that feels intentional. Not talking for a few hours has become more frequent the last few weeks and my brain is telling me he just doesn't care anymore but I can't trust my own judgement. I have a history of being emotionally abused and my immediate reaction to these situations is to think of the worst case scenario. A large part of me feels like I'm just being a mentally ill freak and that I don't have the right to be upset

No. 260262

Basically, I met this guy on a dating app a few weeks ago, and we immediately hit it off. I'm like 99% attracted to women and I'm probably attracted to one men in a thousand so it was surprising to me that I was actually into a man for once. We have been talking ever since and I talked to him about our first date so he said he hates going outside (even though he goes out clubbing every week), and he said we can watch a movie at his place. I don't really think he's going to do anything weird to me because he lives with his sister and he told me he's been sexually abused too (just like me lol). We usually sext a bit but I'm a virgin and I'm getting insecure because I have zero experience (I haven't even had my first kiss and I'm 18 so it's not like I'm very old but still.) He doesn't care about that and he said that he wanted to eat me out and while I'm interested in all this because I'm definitely not an asexual I'm just getting insecure and overthinking everything. I just don't want to be unsexy or fuck things up. I'm a bpdchan so it's a bit surprising that he doesn't care about that too because people usually just run away and I couldn't care less about that. My only problem right now is just me overthinking that I'll do something wrong during sex and fuck the entire relationship up. So any advice would be appreciated lol

No. 260263

>>260259
Is it long distance or do you just live separately? How often do see him irl? If a large portion of your contact is conducted through messages and then that breaks down then that's obviously a bigger deal.

No. 260264

>>260262
You haven't met yet but you're sexting. He's faking hating leaving the house (like you said he goes fucking clubbing) A first date at a man's house is a horrible idea. You should be concerned about that bring his idea of a fitting date. He doesn't care about your bpd because he's getting sexting out of you and you're willing to go his house for a first date. Very clearly using you.

No. 260267

>>260264
Should I just stand him up instead? Because when I tried organising a date he was like I don't want to be a dick but I'll probably stand you up which gave me major red flags. I also told him we are not going to have sex on the first date but he was adamant on eating me out which was so weird. He also got jealous when I told him that I'm not heterosexual but then he backtracked and said that it was just miscommunication. Honestly it's very pitiful because he's the only man I've been interested in years. I'm also talking to a girl right now so I might try out things with her too if this falls out.

No. 260270

>>260267
He has no intention of dating you. This is about sexting you and then if you show up to his place he'll use eating you out as a way to force full on sex on you while you're undressed or he'll guilt you into returning the favor. He's not even hiding his intentions well.

He expects a 18 year old woman to go straight to his house on the first meeting. This isn't normal. He honestly sounds dangerous based on some of the things you've said.

No. 260271

>>260257
Those are usually normal sized men who get fat later in life as they become more sedentary, it happens to both genders. But the kinds of super skinny "I just can't manage to put on any weight UwU" people legit have something wrong with their brain where they just don't get pleasure from eating food so they always have to "remind themselves to eat" and pick at it like little birds. I mean, I wish that was me, but that's something that growing older doesn't fix.

No. 260272

>>260267
He doesn't care about you enough to go on a proper date, he's not worth it. He just wants you to be a bootycall, trust me it will not just stay "eating you out", it will turn into sex and then you will never see him again. A man who cares about you will find time to grab a cup of coffee with you or invite you to dinner. He's telling you what you want to hear to get you into bed, he probably hasn't even been sexually abused. He's playing you.

No. 260273

>>260262
Nonna, please NEVER go to a mans house on the first date or even the first few dates. You don't know this man and even if he's telling you certain things you don't know if it's the truth as you've yet to meet him and figure out what type of person he is. Please do not put yourself into this situation - when I was 17 and stupid I went to a moids house and kept telling him I didn't want to have sex or do anything like that, just smoke and watch movies. Well, about an hour into being at his house I was extremely high, he kept asking for sex and I eventually agreed because I was worried I would look boring otherwise.
Please do not make the same mistake. There is no safety net available to you if you go to his house alone - he is absolutely going to use oral to guilt trip you into having sex with you. Don't do this.

No. 260274

>>260262
>>260267
watching a movie at a guy's house is kinda code for having sex anon, at the very least he's hoping for it and from the sounds of it he'll be pushing for it considering he's not respecting your No sex. And when you're at a guy's house one on one it's harder to keep your boundaries up. If you insist on going on a date with him, which I agree with anons you probably should not, consider going on a nice date in public; go on a coffee date or a nice walk in a park or something. That's safer anyway because it's still a stranger off tinder.

No. 260276

>>260267
>he's the only man I've been interested in years
Anon you're only 18, calm down. You're not really at an age where should've been interested in a boatload of guys/girls.

No. 260291

>>260262
He sounds like a red flag nonni. I know on the surface it seems like a good deal but in my exp from similar I’d dodge that bullet. Also my partner has bpd and it’s chill. There’s people for you. Don’t just pick the first one who shows you attention. Take it slow and breathe.

No. 260302

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Nonnies, how can you tell if a man doesn't want to have sex with you because he's just not attracted to you vs just tired from work or is depressed?

Sounds stupid I know but I cannot even remember the last time I had sex or any sort of long-lasting sexual contact with my bf.
I will admit some of this is on my end - for example body image issues which I'm working on by going to the gym, and also pain when first having penetration from anything. I'm not officially diagnosed but I'm pretty sure it's vaginismus, however luckily I am working on that too. Recently though I have been initiating or trying to turn him on and I just get the "I'm tired from work/I've been really depressed lately" and I don't want to be a creep and pressure anyone into those things but I just don't believe him anymore.
I have a very high sex drive and it's starting to annoy me because at one point, my boyfriend did too, so he hasn't always been like this. We have been together for 5 years so I understand it's not going to be crazy loads of sex like the start.
I tried looking in other communities or asking for advice there but people just said "he will be tired from work/depressed" and it's like okay, I get it - we can't all be horny all the time. But I feel like he's just taking the piss now. He's still very romantic, but not sexual, and I hate that. I need sexual attraction to actually feel like I'm his girlfriend and not just a convenient roommate, we have discussed it many times before and I explained how even with probable vaginismus and self-esteem issues, it's not fair how I'm still trying to initiate sex and he never does - literally the only reasons he gives is that he's always tired from working a physically demanding job. Okay, you're too tired to have your face sat on for 20 minutes but you can do other things perfectly fine, like sit at the computer for hours or clean up the house? I genuinely feel like I'm being lied to.

There's also the fact that porn could be involved - we live together and ever since we moved in to this place I've kept the router at its default security settings, meaning that you can't access porn in this house via the safety block thing. I hate porn and he (claims, lol) he doesn't like or watch it and tbh there's no way to watch it in this house unless he's found someway to do it? I'm not savvy on this, I'm not even ashamed to admit I've been snooping regarding porn usage and I've found literally nothing that could hint towards him watching it.
I feel like a mug just typing this but the last time we had sex, although he seemed visibly interested and had no problems staying hard, he didn't even finish and said he just got "exhausted". I've literally never encountered this before, I guess I just accepted it at the time because I don't want to persuade someone into doing sexual things but looking back on it it's just weird. I'm personally of the belief that if a man wants you sexually he can work with being tired and at least try to do something with you, but this stuff isn't even improving or getting anywhere.

What do you nonnies think? Also yes I am stupid for even letting it get this far…I cannot even remember what it's like to be touched in a sexual way or really "physically lusted" after, it makes me cry sometimes kek especially after I see it in movies or shows.

No. 260305

>>260262
How is this dude telling you, basically a stranger, about his sexual abuse all willy nilly? Dumping all this on you… idk anon. And you're really young, you really don't need to worry about being a virgin at your age, that's normal. I suggest to ghost this weirdo, there are better, nicer boys and girls out there.

No. 260307

>>260302
It's not true that men can work through exhaustion and whatever other emotional/mental problem he's going through just because he's sexually attracted to a woman. He may be attracted to you - and from what you're saying it very much sounds like he is - but external problems make it impossible for him to perform, and it happens. I think you really need to sit down and have a honest conversation with him about that, nothing else will bring you closer to solving it.

No. 260310

>>260307
Thanks for you advice anon. I've actually had several conversations with him about it before, he doesn't deny that he hasn't been as attentive sexually, every time he admits and knows that he could do better…but then he just doesn't. Or he'll do it like once then just go back to being seemingly not interested or bothered in anything sexual. This is what's making me embarrassed, because time after time it goes:
>yes i admit, you're right, i should be doing more and making you feel sexually attractive because i am attracted to you
>we do something once
>weeks/months pass and then we are back to square one

I'm not even in a situation where I can just pack my shit and leave and find someone who's into me sexually…we're struggling financially and both of us would literally be homeless if we parted so it feels like I'm stuck in some sexless nightmare.

No. 260311

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No. 260312

>>260302
I've been with someone before who had little energy left at the end of the work day but we talked about it and ended up making time at the weekends. During the work week I did sexual favors for him that were very one sided and allowed him to chill but come the weekend I was looked after. I didn't have as busy of a schedule as him so that was our way of dealing with it. If you've had several talks already and you still can't remember the last time you were intimate I don't blame you for feeling done. How many times can you approach someone with the exact same issue that hasn't been worked on?

No. 260318

NEW THREAD >>260317
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No. 260325

>>260263
He actually lives about 2 hours away (Ireland is so small that you can live on the opposite sides of the country and not have it be a huge deal). It's temporarily long distance until he finished college

No. 260350

>>260318
This one isn't full yet, keep posting here.

No. 260352

>>260302
Sorry but even the most tired/overworked man will still jerk off before bed or in the shower. Unless you require like 2 hours of foreplay there is no excuse as to why he can't spend 20 minutes before going to sleep to have sex with you. If you're not having sex, he is still releasing it somewhere, it's his choice not to do it with you. The fact that he can't orgasm from sex is a huge red flag that he probably has a porn addiction that he is hiding from you. He can watch porn on his phone using mobile data.

I would not put up with this.

No. 260396

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>>260370
how about you considering the following: kill yourself, ugly fat moid(don’t engage )

No. 260402

>>260370
Who gives a fuck

No. 260411

Stop showing your bfs LC you actual retards, your moid isn't the good-guy exception, you've seen what moids do to a rare female-only internet space. This isn't for their eyes, stop purposely bringing them here.

No. 260412

How do you guys deal with women flirting with your bf? Yes I understand most of the male population is fugly but I managed to reel in a hottie who doesnt know hes hot. It doesnt make me jealous that women flirt because I mean…hes already mine. Though it makes me feel like I am not assertive enough of him considering there have been women who outright flirted with him in front of me. He never reciprocates and has no desire to even entertain it. Should I tell them off or does that make me look weak?

No. 260414

>>260370
You brought zero advice or new information. Your entire post is just mansplaining. Idk what your gf was even thinking letting you post here

No. 260417

>>260412
You don't deal with those women, your bf has to actively deal with them because it's disrespectful towards you. Him being passive isn't good enough.

No. 260419

>>260411
imagine showing your discord boyfriend who refers to you as femanon lolcow lmao. terminal pickme syndrome

No. 260420

>>260416
>incel
Confusing take, male-posting isn't allowed here, it's that simple and mundane.

No. 260422

>>260412
If they don't listen after simply telling them in an assertive and calm way that he's your man, then go ahead and tell them to fuck off. >>260417 Like she said, your boyfriend should make it apparent that you're his girlfriend also.

No. 260423

>>260416
you're trying so hard to bait women into proving to you they're female. you don't belong here, retard, what's so hard to understand? we fucking hate your guts and we'd be happy if you died on the side of the road like a loser

No. 260424

>>260412
If a woman is flirting with him in front of you just mark your territory. Groom him, stroke his hair, kiss him, ask him "babe are you ready to leave yet?" or something else that makes it obvious that he's your boyfriend. Although you should teach your moid to just tell women who are openly flirting with him that he isn't available. He shouldn't even be engaging.

No. 260426

stop replying to scrotes and derailing the thread for fucks sake

No. 260431

>>260419
i swear to god, these are the idiots i post with?

No. 260432

You girls are in relationships and friendships with men who use the word 'femanon'. In awe.

No. 260437

>>260412
You can't steal a man who doesn't want to be stolen so I've never seen the point in being that partner who has a go at people for flirting. Have a word with him in private if you want him to step up his boundaries in those situations. Don't risk publicly embarrassing yourself by telling off women who talk to him. It's easy to either misread situations or be accused of misreading things. Discuss it one on one with him.

No. 260439

>>260435
You as a man, aren't allowed here, it's as simple as that. No one wants your advice, if we wanted advice from a man we wouldn't be posting on a female-only space.

No. 260441

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if i didn't care about hurting nonnies' feelings, i would spam pictures of travis alexander's stabbed to death body to every single male poster on lolcow.

No. 260442

>>260437
>>260435
no one wants your advice here, this is a female ib meaning from women to women.

No. 260443

>>260441
Why would your impotent fantasies upset me?

No. 260444

The fact that it is this easy for a single moid-post to completely derail a thread is really a testament that maybe some of you are mentally unstable. Just fucking ignore him and move on.

No. 260445

>>260444
stop bringing your nigel here then you fucking retard

No. 260447

>>260444
You're right that ignoring is ideal but the ones who talk about this site to their 3inch autistic boyfriends should be holding responsible.

No. 260448

the fact that this bitch used "histrionics" means by virtue means he is most definitely not a good one with good advice. anon is an idiot for dating this guy wtf

No. 260450

>>260448
Suggest a better word for this behavior, please.

No. 260452

>>260444
You should've fucked your incel boytoy instead of letting him roam here freely. He's obviously a porn addicted loser and you're obviously very desperate. Perfect for match.

No. 260455

>>260450
i suggest a loaded shotgun inside your mouth

No. 260457

>>260452
>fuck your incel boyfriend
>incel
>boyfriend
>fuck your incel
hahahaha

No. 260458

>>260452
It's so pathetic the dicklet is on here still replying knowing he isn't welcome.

No. 260459

>>260458
Stop being entertaining

No. 260460

>>260455
Don't engage with him. He's obviously very desperate for female attention and his gf pretty much brought him here so he could cuck her because he's too ugly to do so irl. Just ignore.

No. 260461

>>260457
incel is a mindset too

No. 260462

>>260460
She asked for some insight to help someone.

Definitely, no one should be taking dating advice from anyone on this website. Taking anyone here seriously would be a great way to fuck your life up forever.

No. 260463

>>260458
Don't reply. He's most likely an ugly loser who's posting here for replies, he doesn't care if it's negative either because that's the only interaction with actual women he gets. Report and ignore.

No. 260466

>>260461
If he weren't an incel he wouldn't have as pornsick views about sex and also wouldn't talk about it like an expert using the the shit he learnt online. He also wouldn't spend hours posting on an anonymous forum desperately seeking female attention. Normal men go out with their friends and girlfriends. Incels e-date pickmes and try to cheat or talk with other women behind their backs.

No. 260469

>>260466
very true. one of my scrote friends (ngl he's a guy who gets women easily and slutty but a good friend, also not an imageboard user since he was like 14 and no incel mentality) saw lc on my computer when he was at my house and was like "wtf kind of imageboard is this? weird name" but had absolutely 0 interest in it when i explained it. no quasi-decent male would want to spend any time in any place obviously posting and drawing attn where he was not wanted. no sane person would want to keep posting when made extremely clear they are unwanted

No. 260471

>>260469
Yeah it obvious he came here thinking this was an off-site 4chan filled with pickmes who would worship him. I can't imaging being enough of a pickme to lead him here and still defend him in this >>260444 post. She's a loser, almost as much as him.

No. 260474

>>260471
You are literally having a meltdown and completely derailing a thread meant for nonnies to share their realtionship issues in over a single scrote shitpost, the only way to deal with scrotes on here is to ignore them. Instead you are giving them post after post of attention, exactly what they want. You are dumb as shit.

No. 260476

>>260429
>>260416

They're just PMSing don't take it personally

No. 260478

>>260473
I forgot to sage but this isn't /snow/ so there's not really a worth is situation.
>>260474
I'm discussing with another anon. I didn't reply to his posts and won't. I also am not the one who invited him and I think both he and the anon who invited him should be banned.

No. 260480

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>>260370

No. 260481

>>260477
Tbh they should go back to their discord server or wherever they came from. He obviously came here to chat with other women thinking they'd be doormats like her and he failed. She's still defending him. Tragic.

No. 260482

>>260478
If you see a scrote post, use the report feature. Don't reply to him. You should be banned along with him just for infighting and derailing this thread.

No. 260484

>>260482
You should be banned for inviting the said scrote.

No. 260485

>>260270
>>260272
>>260273
>>260274
>>260291
>>260276
>>260305
Thank you for the advice everyone, I think I'll just ghost him now and talk to the girl I'm interested in.

No. 260486

>>260484
I'm not the one who invited him, schizo-chan.

No. 260496

guys i'm pretty sure no one actually invited him and he just said that to make himself seem cooler kek

No. 260497

>>260496
Anon please stop. Either him or one of those anons will come and start this whole shit again.

No. 270601

Me and my boyfriend have been together since highschool and we are now getting our first jobs after university. We both lived with our parents during uni because it was a lot cheaper. But now that I am making money I was finally able to afford the rent money for a small apartment. I asked my boyfriend if he wants to move in with me since we should become more independent and I am tired of always meeting his parents at their home and not being able to do whatever tf I want to do. He just said that he doesn't want to move out of his parents place which I find to be kinda embarrassing because he is now in his mid twenties and doesn't have his own place or a car. We had an argument just yesterday because he asked if he could get a key to my apartment and I declined because if he doesn't pay rent nor lives there he doesn't deserve a key. I feel very dissatisfied in this relationship and I am tired of always being the one that has to drive us around because he doesn't have a car. I feel like he is super lazy living back there at his moms place (who also doesn't want him to move out). I was always fine with him not spoiling me or getting me gifts because we were both broke students but now that we are both making money nothing has changed. I just want to be spoiled and appreciated by my man that was always my dream and I don't think that he is able to do that. I am thinking about breaking up with him but it also scares me because we've been together for so long.

No. 270607

>>270601
it's daunting to put yourself back out there and start anew after being with someone for so long, but don't let the sunk-cost fallacy keep you from pursuing what you want in life, anon. you deserve someone who is willing to grow with you as your equal and partner, not some scrote who is more than happy to reap the benefits of treating you like a second mom while still living with his actual mother.

No. 270620

My love language is words of affection and quality time. My bf likes to give me gifts and physical touch. Its hard for me to really appreciate both because of my background with toxic people who either crossed boundaries with touch or held gifts over my head. Though, I think I will ask him sometime soon if he can use more words of affection, or we can do something fun together. It makes me a little sad but we are also both busy.. and when we are together he likes to cuddle me or be jokey more than romantic and deep (not to sound like some teenager lol) but I like to have sweet and romantic moments. Sorry idk if this is really asking for advice more so just venting and wondering if Nonnas here go through something similar

No. 270655

>>270620
If someone loves you they will make an effort to show you that love in ways you appreciate. Don't ever feel stupid or childish for wanting romance. Men like to position it as dumb just because they don't want to make an effort. I'm not saying your bf is necessarily like that but it pisses me off that those things have been minimized by men yet they benefit from us being romantic and loving towards them. Definitely tell your bf what you'd like and hopefully he will put effort into doing it. I did have some success with exes listening and doing actions I liked, but it was very hit or miss. Like they'd half-ass something or do it for a while then stop. I've since learned that if they don't want to put in the time for me then I don't want to waste mine on them. Whenever a partner has asked me for something I listen the first time they tell me and do it if it's reasonable because making my partner happy genuinely makes me happy. They should do the same for you. It's possible your bf just doesn't have practice being verbally affectionate because guys don't typically learn or prioritize that growing up, but if you give him some examples of the things you like to hear, maybe he can incorporate more of that within the relationship.

No. 270662

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Is it possible to find a guy that isn't into video games, anime, porn, no dad/mom issues, with full healthy hair? Am I asking for too much?

No. 270677

>>270662
To abbreviate your query, I will use the first letter of the alphabet to describe my experiences:

1st BF:
V - he liked Pokemon and some Nintendo titles. That was it, but he didn't even play Vidya anymore. So yeh.
A - only into mainstream normies titles on Netflix and only because I introduced him to it.
P - yes, not addicted, but definitely watched it. we were in high school and I wasn't allowed out of the house by my parents, so I didn't really fault him for it since we could only opportunistically have sex a few times. He also was terrified of getting me pregnant because his parents got pregnant with him as teens which contributed to his fears around sex. He was also a virgin. I think he would have stopped if I asked, though.
D/M: none
H: Still does last time I checked.

2nd BF
V: obsessed
A: only hentai
P: pornsick to the core
D/M: no father to speak of, mom did not raise him. Through the nose.
H: yes, very thick and full.

3rd BF:
V: He plays them, but he is very picky about the games he plays. He is not at all the kind of man to prioritize video games over me. It's a hobby for him and he frequently will make himself take breaks from it for weeks if he feels like he is playing them too much.

A: A few titles his friend from his childhood had him watch. He doesn't watch any anime for fun on his own and finds it cringey.

P: He doesn't watch it because he knows it hurts my feelings. We have sex 1-2 times a day (relationship is 3 years for context). I have a very high sex drive, so yeah, I find porn unacceptable since I want all of his sexual investment.


D/M: None. He was raised extremely well overall.

H: He is balding now.

There's some realistic answers.

I doubt you will find a man who hasn't touched video games at some point in his life now or porn. It doesn't mean they're all addicts to either or will not stop since some men can actually recognize that both have negative effects. In my opinion, it's easy still to find people who don't love anime, but most have probably watched a show or so given its popularity now. D/M issues are pretty easy to snuff out, I would never date a guy with those again unless they've genuinely detached them from their lives. Balding, I really don't care, my dad was totally bald so I'm used to the concept and I personally am just glad to have a moid that respects and cherishes me.

No. 270683

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I (25F) met this guy (21M) on Okcupid and been going out on dates with him for the last 6 months. The day before i'm suppose to meet up with him he all of a sudden tells me he doesn't see us becoming bf and gf right now, he also said he didnt want to lead me on.

This confused me so i asked him to clarify, he explains that for a while he thought i was a little too much for him. I ended up getting him to tell me if he could ever see himself dating me and he basically said no even though he likes the appeal of dating me. He was describing it like skydiving and how it looks fun but he's scared of heights.

The issue is that he tells me this a few weeks after my best friend took her own life and after i got fired from my job… I take care of my sister and support my family, i volunteer and I have other hobbies that keeps me on my feet. Yeah I haven't had the best of weeks but I get myself back up. Now i feel shattered…

am i messing things up by going to see him in person today to say my final goodbye and explaining my thoughts?

No. 270684

>>270683
And yes i know im probably being dumb and stupid by doing all of this. I was hoping to open up more to him and calm myself down as i got more comfortable with him.

I just have huge doubts i would meet someone who would be open with my personal insecurities and would make some effort to want to be in a relationship with me.

No. 270685

>>270683
Anon just let it go. What's the value in opening up to him? What do you think you'll gain from it? He won't care much because you'll basically become strangers again after this.

No. 270687

>>270683
This guy sounds like a red flag. Also in my experience younger guys kinda suck, they don’t know what they want and they can be very impulsive. I agree with the other anon, I don’t think he will really care. Maybe telling him how you feel will make you feel better but sometimes in my case I end up feeling worse because of how indifferent men can be.

No. 270688

>>270683
Awe Nonna dont do it. Nothing of value will come out of it for you. He clearly told you what he felt and he is not interested anymore. Let it go and live your life girl. Had the exact same situation happen to me but when I was just barely out of high school Lol.

No. 270689

>>270685
Yeah you're right, i was just hoping things might change in the future. But then again I would probably move on by then.

>>270687
Yeah he was showing red flags like his comments about my body at the beginning. When i told him how hurtful it can be he would say he was stating 'facts'. Or how he would jokingly call me his 'e-girl' to his gaming friends and sometimes compliment me by calling me hot.

Maybe i did get lost in him being young and cute to not speak up sooner…

>>270688
I wish I could live my life (and i will) but I get so insecure when guys take interest in me (mainly my body) and I get stuck in this cycle of being rejected because i'm too much for these quiet guys to deal with.

I just want to be happy and confident in myself without men making me feel so insecure and a mess… Also i already on the train so i'm just going to spend my time chilling in the park and getting something to eat, thank you all so far.

No. 270693

Nonas I've been in a conundrum for a while. There's a guy I really like, and I think he's interested in me too, but there are a few potential red flags:

- I'm 24 and he's somewhere around his mid-late 30s.
- We met through a university society. He doesn't attend the university anymore, but lives in the area and still helps out with the society occasionally. Is that weird for a 30yr old?
- He's been engaged before, in a lot of long-term relationships before, but always self-sabotages.
- Not a red flag, more a worry: I really want to have children but I'm conscious of the fact that he might be too old? My dad was the same age when he had me, and it's been sad having my grandparents die when I was still young/my dad not being able to physically keep up with me as an active kid. I don't want my children to have to deal with the same thing.

The pros are that he's very attractive, has a stable lifestyle/job, is very passionate about his hobbies. He's also really sensitive and funny. I think my parents would love him.
I'm honestly bewildered at the possibility that he might be into me, but excited because I've been crushing on him (one-sidedly) for 3 years.

Should I make a move? Is the age gap too much?

No. 270697

>>270693
He'll be over 40 before you're even 30.. is dating someone that old really ok with you? Does it match up with both of your desired timeline for having children? Ie he may want to have them asap since he's aging but you may want to focus on your carreer for the duration of your twenties first.

No. 270700

>>270697
>is dating someone that old really ok with you?
I've liked older guys before, but I'd be conflicted about settling down with one because of what other people might think. And also because something in the back of my mind is telling me that a guy who's still single in his late 30s probably has something wrong with him.
>desired timeline for having children
Yeah I also feel hesitant about signing my life away this early.

I always convince myself that dating him would be a bad idea, but then I'll hang out with him again and end up fixating on the idea for a whole week afterwards. I've never felt like this before around anyone, it just sucks that we're not closer in age.

Thanks for the help nona.

No. 270806

>>270683
>>270689
Here's an update no one asked for. I messaged the guy I've been dating instead of trying to meet him in person. I thanked him for the times together (he thanked me too) and told him that we should give each other a break before we talk again. He was saying I was being so flip floppy about wanting to see him yesterday but I explained that I do but it's for the best I don't.

He then bought up that he's okay with chatting to me and even meeting up with me but reminded me that things won't be the same as it was a week ago. I got low key annoyed that he brought this all up again knowing i'm still into him and we both find each other sexually attractive.

Anyways like I said before i'm going to focus on getting a job and my health (physical and mental) to be a better person in general. I'm going to try not to let guys interests in me get to me. I honestly hate how nearly every guy I have dated but rejected me would tell me afterwards that they missed the sex or my body… I might just avoid having sex with someone until they fully show that they want a relationship with me.

What signs should I look out for in someone who would want a relationship with me?

No. 270807

>>270693
Dating older guys is a fun experience in college where they take you out on fancy dates, pay for shit and you get to feel special. They are not for settling down with. You don't want his crusty cum giving you retard kids and having him die 30 years before you do. Men already die earlier than women.

No. 270809

Why TF are you all using the old thread

No. 270813

>>270809
Sometimes people bump old ass threads for no reason, I don't get it, they really have to go super far back to find them.

No. 270816

>>270693
I'm also 24 and dating a man in his 30's. I don't care what people have to say about age gaps on here, if he makes you happy you should give it a chance. If it doesn't go well, you're young and can always find someone else. It's better to try than live with regrets.

No. 270827

>>270693
Dating older men is only acceptable if he treats you like a queen, respects you in every way, has perfect chemistry with you, puts you first in bed, and so on. In other words, only if he's your damn soulmate. Of course, this never happens because old men pray on younger women because they're easier to woo on average, know a lot of them falsely believe that men our age are stupid and will go for his crusty ass, can't get women their own age because they aren't falling for it.
>He's been engaged before, in a lot of long-term relationships before, but always self-sabotages.
So he's a weak loser who can't even commit in relationships, is probably avoidant and can't work on actual relationship issues too.
>e pros are that he's very attractive, has a stable lifestyle/job, is very passionate about his hobbies. He's also really sensitive and funny. I think my parents would love him.
None of this shit matters aside from the career, since you want to have children. The rest of what you listed is just shallow shit you can easily look for in a friend, not a life partner.

No. 270833

>>270827
So what does that say of women who are single virgins well into their twenties?
>None of this shit matters aside from the career
Career is the least important thing anon mentioned, you don't fall in love with someone based on what job they work.
I hope anon doesn't take this advice from bitter loners.

No. 270837

>>270833
>So what does that say of women who are single virgins well into their twenties?
What do you mean? What do they have to do with anything?
>>270833
>Career is the least important thing anon mentioned, you don't fall in love with someone based on what job they work.
Normally, I'd agree, I personally don't care about a man's career. But she wants children. That's a huge expense, and you don't want your future husband saddling you with all the housework, childcare, AND finances on top of that.
I don't get how I'm coming off as a bitter loner, I have a fiance. I just don't want women to get stuck with milquetoast men who will ultimately make them unhappy.

No. 270840

>>270809
Why don't you bump the new thread or someone send the new thread here?
>>270813
I saw it recently so yeah

No. 270847

>>>270837
>What do you mean? What do they have to do with anything?
You're implying that men who haven't been in relationships later in life are somehow lesser, when there are plenty of women like that also (myself included so I take personal offense lmao).
>But she wants children. That's a huge expense
And she can get to it. As long as she isn't dating a homeless man she'll be ok. It's far more important that she be with someone who loves and cares about her than someone who provides. How boring to be stuck with an emotionless moneybag while you shit out offspring and nothing more.

No. 270853

>>270847
>You're implying that men who haven't been in relationships later in life are somehow lesser
Seriously, how did you get that from what I was saying? She mentioned that he's been in a lot of long-term relationships, even engaged at one point. Clearly he fails when it comes to maintaining a serious long-term relationship. This is a huge red flag for a man especially when your end goal is having children. What did he do to chase away all those women, especially the one who wanted to marry him?

>when there are plenty of women like that also

And that's an excellent thing. It's infinitely better to hold off and wait for the right person, instead of rushing into relationships out of desperation wasting your youth taking care of a moid.

>It's far more important that she be with someone who loves and cares about her than someone who provides. How boring to be stuck with an emotionless moneybag while you shit out offspring and nothing more.

She doesn't need someone who is filthy rich, but she does need someone who has the work ethic to take care of a family. You need to take this in account when you have children, seriously. A lot of women marry men who make her shoulder all the responsibilities of having a child along with the finances. Him "not being homeless" is not enough.
I don't want kids, so I have the luxury of not caring about my partner's career choice. But that changes completely when you have another life to take care of.

No. 270871

>>270847
The reasons why men and women are still single later into life are largely different though, men who reach older ages without real relationships are more likely to have several red flags that contribute to that compared to the average woman. So as a woman you shouldn't take personal offense to anon's judgement of older men who can't get into a relationship, it's not the same thing in that way.

No. 270927

>>270871
sorry nonna but it just sound like you haven't dated women. women who are single in their late 20s/30s also tend to be massive womenchildren & have enough psychological issues that they will spend the rest of their lives working on them

No. 270929

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Boyfriend is weird. He is always offering me money, but will make comments (jokes?) like I'm trying to make him go broke… for asking for both salami and pepperoni on my subway sandwich. At one point I thought he even had a findom fetish or something and was alarmed because of how often he brags about how much money he makes and kept practically begging for me to ask him for money, but now I think he may be stingy instead.

I just want him to be normal

No. 270939

>>270847
>It's far more important that she be with someone who loves and cares about her than someone who provides
Why not both

No. 270973

>>270927
God forbid we don't date because we don't want to.

No. 270994

>>270929
your one sounds broken. my bf buys me stuff all the time. are you sure he's not disabled?

No. 271003

>>270929
> I'm trying to make him go broke… for asking for both salami and pepperoni on my subway sandwich
The current state of dating scrotes.

No. 271018

>>270999
“My bf is my bff” women are usually lost NEETs who if they ever experienced fulfilling female relationships would never consider their boyfriends a “bestie” ever again.
He will never compare and its ok to treat your partner…like a partner.

No. 271020

My boyfriend is wonderful in every single way, but it bothers me a bit that he is so crazy about personal accountability. He is so bought into the bootstraps narrative because he grew up in terrible circumstances and "made it", but he also had amazing education and free college from growing up in a socialist country. Now he's super anti leftist and goes on and on about bootstraps and how socialism failed him, without realizing the irony. I'm no leftist, but certainly he had some help getting to where he is. He says he "refuses to debate me" if I try to disagree, which seems like a cop out. I guess I should just let this go, we don't have to agree on everything, right?

No. 271024

>>271020
>he is wonderful in every way
>except for this huge red flag
it's like satire at this point how often anons follow this exact pattern of posting. i could not imagine dating someone that "shuts down" conversations like this, you're his fucking partner, not some random mate he doesn't want to "debate". either everything is out on the table or nothing is. if he refuses to talk to you about this then he's either dumb as bricks or he just doesn't take you or your thoughts seriously enough and he thinks you'll fall in line eventually.

No. 271025

>>271020
You don't have to agree on everything, that's not possible. If his believes do not go against or threaten believes or values of yours that are very important to you and it doesn't cause fricion in your relationship (beyond mild annoyance) it's probably okay

No. 271026

>>271024
I think it's more likely he doesn't want to debate with her because he can't properly defend his opinions.

No. 271028

>>271020
You have him up on a pedestal where he's wonderful in every single way.. meanwhile he doesn't care to listen to your views?

No. 271029

>>271028
He says he's happy to share our opinions, but it's pointless to debate because we won't change each other's minds. I see what he's saying, he just doesn't want it to devolve into an argument and he wants us to just respect each other's opinions and leave it at that, but I do wish he'd think about it a bit harder. I think he is stubborn because he grew up with socialism and now he is vehemently against anything resembling that, which I can understand. Someone who got an amazing university education through socialism can't be compared to a kid who grew up with meth head parents in rural America with crappy public school though, and he doesn't understand that. He thinks people like that are lazy or didn't try hard enough, which upsets me. Maybe over time he will soften his opinion with exposure to me.

No. 271034

>>271029
your boyfriend is a retard. he grew up in a socialist country (i'm guessing he's either european or asian) and somehow he devolved into an a raging stereotype of low IQ right wing americans. he sounds terminally online because there is no other way his views could shift so extremely, i live in a country with socialist stuff like free education and everyone respects that here, especially when you compare it to countries like america where you pay monumental amounts of money for education.

No. 271043

>>270999
>>271018
isn't the whole point of a bf is having a best friend you fuck..how is that different from a partner

No. 271055

>>271029
Europeans pay 55% income taxes and think they are getting shit for free, lmao. You are still paying for it (or in your case probably your parents).

No. 271056

>>271055
meant to reply to >>271034

No. 271073

>>271055
i'm not in the EU but ok

No. 271074

>>271043
A partner is someone that would die for you. Let alone avoid being afraid of having their opinion challenged by you.

No. 271075

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No. 271086

>>271018
Yeah, this is my first healthy relationship and it was rocky at first, since I came from dating a possessive BPD (diagnosed)person. it feels good not to feel like I am the center of his life but dang sometimes I wish we could have more chemistry the way i do with my female friends lol. He is a great boyfriend other wise. I feel like I've moved on from looking at relationships with juvenile rose tinted lens so I guess this topic came up from that.

No. 271087

>>271074
>A partner is someone that would die for you
Me and my close friends felt the same way tho..

No. 271088

>>271087
if you still see your friends as something more than people you occasionally socialise and do fun stuff with then you're mentally still in high school

No. 271097

>>271088
Sad cope of a person who has no friends
no friends here either but I'm not deluding myself some other people don't have a strong emotional connections within their close social circle

No. 271100

>>271088
How do you not… just off yourself with that mindset? Lol

No. 271102

>>271097
i have friends, loser. don't project your situation onto me.

No. 271103

>>271100
get a life

No. 271104

>>271088
If friends are so meaningless to you do you only value family?

No. 271105

>>271104
how did you conflate meaningless with what i said. stop exaggerating.

No. 271106

>>271105
You don't care about them other than to "occasionally socialise". It sounds pretty meaningless.

No. 271107

>>271102
>project your situation onto me
>you’re mentally still in hs
>loser!!1
Oh the irony…

No. 271108

>>271103
get a boyfriend you salty bitch

No. 271119

>>270999
My boyfriend is my best friend and I'm pretty happy with it but we have a lot of hobbies/interests in common. If you have other friends I don't think it matters that much

No. 271126

My husband is ugly. I can't find a single thing attractive about him, sometimes even looking at him made me flinch and I'd rather not look too much. Like hes legit one of the men with the ugliest faces I have ever seen. But I was enchanted with his personality, he's a great man, and that made me feel romantic things for him and sexual attraction. He doesn't particularly dress well either, I don't think I have ever seen dress up nicely and put effort in his appearance and he keeps his hair clean shaven. I think he could look better with longer hair but he says he doesn't want to have long hair anymore, he used to.
After years now I kinda wish we were just friends, the attraction I felt because of my love for him as a person has been fading really hard. I thought you could sustain a relationship based on loving personality alone, and I'm surprised it lasted so long. We are great friends, I love his company and as I said I never seen a man with such a genuinely nice personality like his
We also have been living together for almost a year now so seeing him burping and farting and other shit like that doesn't help in the attraction department.
Wyd, nonas? Ditch the uggo? Just curious, I ain't doing anything yet.

No. 271140

>>271126
Nonna this was bound to happen… I know you can start to feel attracted to a person because you enjoy their company, but the physical attraction based on that never lasts. Dump him for his sake as well as yours. You deserve a partner you find sexually attractive and it's unfair for him to be secretly resented like that. Looks don't trump personality but life is short, do you really want to spend it with an ugly guy?

No. 271156

>>271126
I would've told you to dump him if you weren't married, but being married and having your lives entwined like that makes things so much more difficult. I guess it's for you to consider what you'd rather deal with and what's more important to you; a stable life with an ugly husband or going through the trouble of divorce to open yourself up to the opportunity of meeting someone attractive. For me it'd really depend on how much it'd de-stabilize my life, how difficult it is to divorce (depends on where your local laws after all), how much of a blow my financials would have to take, my living situation.. those are details you didn't mention so it's hard to say what I'd personally do in your situation.



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