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No. 2473199

This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.
>What is gender ideology?
Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.

Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.

Previous threads:
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Relevant threads:
MtF/Trans-Identified Male General >>>/snow/2100731
FtM / fakeboi / TIF general >>>/snow/2100119
Peak trans https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/21342.html
Ovarit Archives https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/38865.html
Resources:
Peak trans stories from banned Gender Critical subreddit: https://www.saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/54yt/gcs_peak_trans_archived/

Peak trans stories from Ovarit: https://pixeldrain.com/l/JTwRJCYR

“Listen to trans people” series: https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1897370783816790064
“You told me you were different” TIM on TIF violence anthology: https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1E3552778745CA46FE01054D2886BB3D

No. 2473241

>>2473091

Yeah, I am the same nonna and I live in a pretty trans positive place. The only place I generally see TERFy-ness is on the inside of bathroom cubicles. I do occasionally misgender people but I am crypto enough to not start a shitstorm when I do, people wouldn’t think it’s deliberate and most often it’s not.

I keep my alliances with women over males always but I don’t have another TERFy irl friend (do not really consider myself a TERF but at the very least I’m someone that believes sex-based realities shouldn’t be compromised for gender ideology) and almost every GNC woman I know has went down the TIF route. If you don’t live in a country where they have decided accommodating males is peak progressiveness then I need you to know it’s a very strange atmosphere… you can actually have fairly nuanced opinions about many political issues and how social justice is best enacted but literally any form of criticism towards gender ideology as a woman will get you put in the TERF camp.

It often feels like the feminism was left incomplete before the transgender movement started building on top of it, crushing already weak pillars of female empowerment with regressive ideas about gender. They don’t care and they won’t bother picking up the pieces.

No. 2473318

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No. 2473359

>>2473318
it pisses me off that these athletes have to make these sacrifices because of moids desperate need to colonize women's spaces.

No. 2473374

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>>2473008
People dont realize that a good portion of the world (outside of the few blue states in the US) literally stone trannies and faggots to death. The “””””trans””””gender movement only seems like they have a foothold right now because they actively silence all critics. if the 14k trannies who liked these “twans rights” posts like pic rel on reddit tried to live in his fetish in somewhere like china, russia or pakistan, he would either be forced to take off his 10$ wig by the general population and kill himself or get killed by others. its about time we in america start treating these men like the predators they are.

No. 2473380

>>2473318
fucking based. i need to start imploying the “ignore and dismiss the tranny” tatic more. as in, simply not taking them seriously. you have no idea how much they yearn for the approval of their fetish from real women. he probably went home and cried after she didnt give any attention to him

No. 2473387

>>2473380
If enough women do this, then it'd be left with tims fighting handmaidens kek

No. 2473393

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>>2473199
OP here, I'm stupid so I accidentally posted the incomplete version of this pic as threadpic, kill me now

No. 2473394

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>>2473387
>tims fighting handmaidens
This literally happens daily. When you dont give the crossdresser the female attention he so deeply craves he will call you a TERF or a transphobe to his other TIM buddies on reddit. There is so much posts on r/MTF about the tranny crying because he didnt feel “included” and the 1# priority in female spaces

No. 2473401

>>2473394
Fastest way to peek someone tbh is for that to be exposed

No. 2473402

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>>2473394
Also for anyone who is wondering, this is what the troon in question looks like. Theyre always so fucking fat, balding and ugly, but they demand attention like a supermodel. The mindset of the average troon is: “Well those troons that people laugh at dont pass at all, but at least I pass just a little” But in reality they are all equally as clockable and fugly and look like men in wigs. (because they are)

No. 2473408

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>>2473398
Yes, this is the most common reason, because most countries outside of america dont have money to burn on an AGP mans fetish, so he will always look like a man without his hormones and surgeries, and so he will always be called a man, leading to the inevitable fate of The Rope.

No. 2473416

>>2473402
Men are so retarded they see themselves with the haircut of a medieval peasant moid and think “wow I finally look just like a hot girl!”

No. 2473429

>>2473411
Sorry, but are you retarded?

No. 2473434

>>2473429
Report bait and move on, dearest nonna.

No. 2473437

being crypto is so miserable. i go to an extremely kweer historical womens college and two girls in my class were fighting about gerard way and one of them was like as a catholic i feel uncomfortable with him using joan of arc imagery when hes not a woman. internally i agreed but obv didnt say anything. few hours later this handmaiden in the class posted something on her story along the lines of “not the cis she/her saying gerard way can’t use joan of arc imagery since he’s not a woman” and i got so scared for a moment thinking about how she could have easily said that about me if i voiced my opinion or spread rumors if i had agreed with the person. even then im lowkey so entrenched in tra language from years operating in tranny circles until i peaked so i can always defend myself usually by circling around to a reason that defends tims in the end, showing that i center them in my feminism. and people at this school are so fucking tranny obsessed that most of the time i have to be on guard in having conversations related to gender and sexuality choosing every word from the tumblr thesaurus so they can’t start to think i’m a terf. i am also a prominent marxist so of course this theyfab army is always trying to bring up trannies in conversations about class. i have one friend who i am gender critical with sometimes but even she doesn’t know the full extent of my issues with tims. please god let the overton window shift again.

No. 2473440

>>2473402
the stealth in question:

No. 2473443

>>2473437
who cares about a random gendies story? that shit probably got 20 viewers max. if i were you i would have chipped in and agreed. im tired of having to live hiding and afraid of prosecution like Anne Frank for knowing simple fucking biology

No. 2473486

>>2473402
Sometimes I wonder why women play along with tims pretending they pass and all that, but then when you see the tims in question it's always like… yup, for safety. That man would definitely hurt you if you didn't. Sorry you're trapped by having him in your circles, stay safe.

No. 2473491

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As per twitter trasbian (now hiding out in bsky) Anthony "Erin" Reed's report, German retards seem to have published a guideline shitting on Cass Review and recommending kowtowing to all tranny wishes.
>From the outset, the guidelines explain the importance of gender affirming care, stating that there are “no proven effective treatment alternative without body-modifying medical measures for a [person with] permanently persistent gender incongruence.”
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/new-german-swiss-and-austria-guidelines
https://bsky.app/profile/erininthemorning.com/post/3ljxggq6lpu2q
What he fails to mention is that a previous version of this guideline was already torn apart for being bananas and not evidence-based (https://segm.org/German-draft-guidelines-gender-dysphoria-children-adolescents-2024), and even the new version is very sus and copied WPATH recommendations (https://segm.org/German-guidelines-gender-dysphoria-youth-2025). Some good points from the segm analysis:
>The final Guidelines acknowledge that the vast majority of gender-distressed adolescents today merely have "gender non-contentedness" and should not medically transition.
>Despite the more cautious narrative, the Guidelines’ recommendations remain largely unchanged, providing a pathway for any willing clinician to provide gender transition to any determined youth.
>The Guidelines have evidence of significant unmanaged conflicts of interest, including a priori alignment with WPATH positions, leadership in gender clinics and organizations promoting gender transition treatment, and ties to pharmaceutical companies.
>The Guidelines’ scathing analysis of the Cass Review is based heavily on the discredited “Yale” report and is rooted in a misunderstanding of the role and process of “independent reviews.”
>Two German medical societies fully rejected the final Guidelines, and several more issued alternative recommendations. Switzerland has not yet accepted the Guidelines, initiating its own additional review.
Gig kek'ing as I read through all this.

No. 2473505

>>2473491
I can't say I'm surprised. This is the country that legalized paid rape under the guise of third-wave "feminism."

No. 2473506

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>>2473486
I was once cornered in a restroom by a 6 ft+ tim who “just wanted to say he loved my hair”. We were the only ones in the room and he was blocking the exit. I said some noncommittal response and that I liked his hair too (I didn’t). He then wanted to talk about what I was wearing and about that time someone else opened the door forcing him to move and allowing me to escape. I’m sure he said later on that he totally passed and I was none the wiser, I even complimented him after all like all girls do.

No. 2473510

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>>2473374
>mrw someone sticks a catchy shibboleth on cutesy art as if it means or accomplishes anything

No. 2473512

>>2473506
that sounds horrifying i'm so sorry

No. 2473521

>>2473318
Good for her. This is fucking absurd, putting women's safety at risk just for male comfort and "validation."

No. 2473546

>>2473506
Not trying to be rude, but why did you play along with that shit? That genuinely makes me sick. Nobody with a gun to my head can force me to call a man a woman. Especially when he is right in my face and I can freely humiliate him. If i saw him in my bathroom i would at least give him a nasty stare to remind him hes a freak and that he doesnt belong. You just gave him something to think about while he is jerking off.

No. 2473555

>>2473546
>why did you play along with that shit?
Because she didn't want to die or get sexually assaulted? are you thick

No. 2473561

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>>2473510
This. Its not so different than drawing random cartoon characters holding a sign or a shirt that says “Character says trans rights!” It literally changes nothing but affirms the trannies make-believe delusions and also the delusions by other trannies who see it and share it

No. 2473563

>>2473546
>why did you not intentionally piss off a giant moid cornering you in a room alone?

No. 2473564

>>2473546
>6+ foot hulking troon alone in a bathroom blocking the only exit
>why didn't you intentionally piss off the mentally ill male?
It's a mystery, nona! Retard.

No. 2473565

>>2473563
>>2473564
haha jinx nonnie you owe me a soda

No. 2473566

>>2473561
Slightly OT but I would kind of love it if "he would not fucking say that" got referenced in the show itself. I don't normally like those kind of meme references but I think it would work here kek.

No. 2473568

>>2473563
This is why I carry mace.

No. 2473572

>>2473561
I get what this image is saying but Cartman would totally have a gendie phase if he believed he could get something out of it kek

No. 2473574

>>2473546
NAYRT but I think trying to appease the male and looking for the nearest exit is a fairly rational response when you’re cornered by one. It’d be nice to say what we’re really thinking, but as the saying goes, call a TIM a man and he’ll prove to you that he is one.

No. 2473576

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>>2473565
For you nonny

>>2473568
Yeah that police call, court case and emotional trauma is worth a singular smug moment right?

No. 2473581

>>2473572
>Cartman would totally have a gendie phase
NTA and also not a South Parkfag, but isn't he incredibly narcissistic? He'd make the perfect TIM, he's already got the rampant misogyny and lard body to start.

No. 2473586

>>2473563
Gun to my head, I could literally not hold back the urge to laugh at him. Odds are he wouldnt even try to attack you because most TIMs try to resist their innate male violence instincts of because they think it makes them more “lady-like teehee” The least i would have done was show some passive aggressiveness instead of knowing i kissed a gay mans ass.

No. 2473587

>>2473546
And I thought I was retarded kek

No. 2473589

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>>2473581
He was a TIM in one episode. The storyline was about how he put a bow on his head and demanded to go into the womens restrooms because it was “cleaner” and “nicer” kek

No. 2473590

>>2473585
Then go and fight all the tims for us so that womankind can finally know peace nona

No. 2473594

>>2473590
Damn straight I will. I hope one day I can encounter a TIM in public so i can make fun of him and give him weird glares. As long as i have a mace in my pocket, nobody can force me to give a gay man in a dress asspats

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No. 2473598

>>2473586
>most TIMs try to resist their innate male violence instincts of because they think it makes them more “lady-like teehee”
Do they? Do they really?

No. 2473599

>>2473572
There was actually an episode where he pretended to be a gendie so he could get his own personal bathroom kek
>>2473506
I'm so sorry this happened to you nonnie. He probably wanted to feel like he "passed", ew. Most women just don't wanna deal with their retarded tantrums. I'm never even worried about them being strong or tall, as with any other moid, I don't care I'm built and go everywhere with my girlfriend. Trannies are hypotonic as fuck anyways. It's really the psychological legal karen shit they pull that's so fucking agitating. You don't wanna validate them? Sued. Oh you won't allow them into your business' women's restroom? Harassed and spammed with negative reviews. Tell them to fuck off when you wanna be left alone? Police called on you. It's hell. Women do best in groups as we are very social, they 41% if a flock of normie women give them the stink eye. Because then they can't karen out about it.

No. 2473600

>>2473393
it makes more sense that a woman minding her own business would be considered transphobic by a tranny kek dont worry about it nona

No. 2473601

>>2473596
Why would I want to be a handmaiden? This is why trannies have the confidence to barge into womens spaces. All im saying is if you engage in the trannies delusions you are no better than a handmaiden, except you secretly hate doing it.

No. 2473607

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>>2473586
>most TIMs try to resist their innate male violence instincts of because they think it makes them more “lady-like teehee”

No. 2473609

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>>2473601
I don’t think not starting fights with hulking males makes you a handmaiden and nor does just wanting to go about your daily business without an impending court case on your mind.

No. 2473612

>>2473609
This is may be true but there is no way i could miss the opportunity of being the last straw on the camels back that lead to the events of that particular tranny acking himself. I really think that one more mean glare is all it needs for these freaks to realize that nobody in real life likes them. If i get socked for that then fuck me it was worth it.

No. 2473615

>>2473607
NTA, not denying that they aren't violent. But sex offenses can be violent and non violent. Like downloading CP makes you a sex offender. Also extorting CP from a child online. etc etc. Either way I wouldn't wanna get in a fight with a random mentally ill moid who has a 99% chance of being a sexual degenerate. Completely understand why the nona did what she did.
>>2473609
Agreed, I don't care about moid's "muh upper body strength" (especially if they're on hormones that fuck with it). But trannies are just their own type of demon because they'll go out of their way to fuck with your life legally and socially if you make them seethe. I wouldn't consider myself "nice" to trannies unless they're obviously underaged or disabled. I don't pick fights, I'm just cold. I don't think anybody wants to pick fights with the mentally disturbed, especially if you just wanna mind your own business and get the fuck out.
>>2473612
fair

No. 2473616

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>>2473512
>>2473599
AYART, thank you nonnies. This happened over a decade ago, I was 16 at the time and just going to get coffee with my friend. I went to the bathroom while we waited for our drinks. When I was in the stall I heard him enter but not use any of the facilities, when I exited I saw him standing there. I knew I was in a bad situation at the time but I didn’t realize how dangerous it really was until much later.
I hope no one else experiences something similar, it was really terrifying and I think contributed to my anxiety. I don’t feel like I can talk about it in therapy either without risking them terminating care for being transphobic. I wish I could say I would do things differently if I found myself in the same position today but I fear for my safety too much. May you nonnies never have to make that decision.

No. 2473628

>>2473616
NTAs but I think you did the right thing. He probably watched you enter the bathroom, then followed you in and waited to engage you. Nasty freak and he deserves all the misery his "community" brought him. Glad you're safe and made it out okay, carry a mace or tazer if you use public bathrooms.

No. 2473629

>>2473616
And yet trannies will say that they are getting “prosecuted for being themselves”. my ass. Its not fair that you have to be afraid for knowing basic human biology. Im so tired of these freaks. Im tired of having to use their make-believe pronouns on twitter to avoid being cancelled. I literally have to condition my mind into using the incorrect pronouns when my own two eyes literally see a man in a dress

No. 2473633

>>2473628
>He probably watched you enter the bathroom, then followed you in and waited to engage you.
This. Whenever a tranny tries to talk with me in particular i just know hes looking for “please see me as a woman too pleaaaseeee” asspats. Im so tired of it nonas.

No. 2473641

>>2473616
>This happened over a decade ago,
Wait this tranny is probably dead right now kek

No. 2473646

>>2473641
NTA but god willing, nona. God fucking willing.

No. 2473660

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This is so true

No. 2473669

>>2473660
This reminds me of that one post
>Men troon out because they dont feel valued enough in the patriarchy
>Women troon out to escape from misogyny of the patriarchy
or something like that

No. 2473892

Curious about nonnie opinions: is being crypto a cowardly move or is it often unfortunately necessary? And if necessary, to what extent/why?

No. 2473909

>>2473892
The latter. You never know, plus gendie shit has poisoned the minds of a lot of normies where I'm from. Also depends on where troon violence is normalised

No. 2473911

>>2473660
yeah and sometimes it's just "i got a bf and wanted to be a girl instead of a yaoi boy" and "i stopped posting on /lgbt/"

No. 2473914

>>2473892
It’s unfortunately necessary. I spent around 7 years of my life completely friendless because my country was troon worship central. Even my family members chastised me for “misgendering trans women” so I really had nobody. Nobody. I could kinda talk about this with… straight males, which was far from fulfilling because they were anti troon for the wrong reasons lol. Connecting with other rads was impossible, I tried tinder and my ass got banned. And as much as anons want to say “well that’s better than surrounding yourself with people who would want you dead”, the social isolation was so bad I was suicidal to a point. When I moved to another country and pretended to get along with those delusions my life got much better because I am still the same person but now able to perhaps plant some seeds here and there, I can express certain thoughts and play them off as being ignorant, and regardless of other people— at least now I’m getting social stimuli my brain craved. I got people who love me. And yeah I’m aware that all of this would go to shit if they discovered my true self and you can argue it’s all fake but I really was not doing anything for female rights going to events alone, friendless, and coming home to just chat with anons from friend finder which would end up with either of us ghosting each other. I might be a coward not being open about my beliefs but I wasn’t gonna convince anybody being loud but alone. I still can’t convince anyone— I’ve tried. I’ll pick a social life where I can be successful, have a job (would get fired if my status as rf was revealed) and friends and throw some rf facts at them to make them think. They surprisingly will agree with a lot of things as long as you don’t label them as rf.

No. 2473918

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No. 2473919

>>2473914
>They surprisingly will agree with a lot of things as long as you don’t label them as rf.
One time I claimed I was a "tirf" with some old friends and shared blatantly radfem opinions and they ate them all up kek

No. 2473926

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>like something cool
>trannies get into it
>oust every normal person, devs pander to them and make it stupid

every single FUCKING time. recently, a game i like added a nonbeanary character. whatever, ignore him. now a youtuber who makes build videos referred to the heccin valid duderino as 'he' and got dogpiled by kweer redittors doin a big yikes because the youtuber said he doesn't gaf. it's a fucking fictional character with a male voice actor and male appearance. the youtuber was removed from the games' partnership simply for saying he doesn't care.
you have to bow down to these people and their delusions or you will receive public lashings. it is so over.

No. 2473928

>>2473926
Any time I see someone stand up to troonism in public I give them a follow/sub in support kek

No. 2473931

>>2473892
People literally get fired, lose their livelihood, lose their entire support networks, get their own kids taken away… just for saying they don't agree with troons on the most basic level. So yeah no crypto is necessary for many many people, especially already vulnerable people.

No. 2473964

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>>2473892
Sometimes crypto is needed, but many times i find myself just calling TIMs a man to their face, and then act really unapologetic, apathetic, and casual about it if they freak out. The maximum ive seen them do is avoid me afterwards, which is in my best interests because who wants to look at an eerie skinwalking fugly moid on a day to day basis.

No. 2473968

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>>2473964
Samefagging, example from a real conversation i had with a TIM, not verbatim
>Wow he probably doesnt even know you are a guy crossdressing
>”Um… I use she/her pronouns and I told you I dont like being called “A guy”
>Oh yeah I forgot, Its hard for my brain to see you as a woman because you look masculine
>”But i identify as a woman”
>Yeah i know its just easier for me to call you a guy though
and the the next day he avoids me and gets embarrassed whenever he sees me. he knows he cant cry transphobia because i can just go “well i didnt know” and he will probably tell himself that too. Its literally so easy, im done with ass kissing moids.

No. 2474012

I’m in a Euro country that elected a pretty right wing government last year. Immediately afterwards my local university took down their DEI page, which was mostly focused on women, disability and immigrants, entirely. I’ve just noticed it’s back up but there’s no mention of disability or sex discrimination at all anymore. It’s all ‘gender identity’ and religion now, with every photo being either an obvious begendered person or a woman in hijab. Fuck those of us who aren’t in a cult, I guess?
I hope some TIM pisses off the wrong Muslim woman and the whole thing blows up. Unfortunately the hijabis who attend this university tend to be libfem handmaidens who combine their hijab with heavy makeup and high heels while chanting TWAW so even if a TIM demanded they take off their hijab in front of him and his ladyboner they’d probably comply. Bleak.

>>2473968
I’m happy for you nonna but some of us would get fired for this. I have a lot of difficulty with wrong sex pronouns. My brain simply won’t do it. Where I work I could get seriously penalised for slipping up, so I try to avoid using pronouns for (or even talking about) these people at all, but I’ve been lowkey reprimanded for that as well. I’m lucky enough to have people in my personal life with whom I can be honest but if I terf out at work, even mildly, I’ll probably lose my job. Taking refuge in ignorance only works once, if at all, and I know I wouldn’t be able to get away with it anymore since I’ve already been ‘educated’ too often.

No. 2474015

>>2473318
I love her

No. 2474055

>>2473964
That's nice to hear. I wish they'd avoid me tbh but hulkers could be scarily violent. I had a male friend from high school who trooned out and started talking about how he'd beat anyone who disagreed with him (not even related to his troonery, just altercations or fights in general). I ditched him but his gaggle of troonfriends were all the same. If they're a good sample then if I mention bring a TERF around any potential troons I'm going to end up with a broken face unfortunately.
Hell, you can't even tell troons apart from normal moids anymore. So many troons wear full beards and mustaches, short hair and casual (male) clothing and expect you to know they're "female" as well.

No. 2474237

>>2474012
>Losing your job for calling a man “he” once
Really? has this happened? Just dont show any signs of anger or frustration when you remind them that they are men, and then brush it off and move on. Hes going to look like a retard to your job manager if he gets pissy about being called “he” once. Its mot sexual harassment, its not racial discrimination, I cant picture an employer with a daily income over 100+ who would care. If not, My second favorite go to is subtle ignorance. They try so hard to be seen as women, and when they get disproval from the women they try to be, It really fucks with them lmao. its also very uncommon for trannies to posess a high-chain job since because of their mental health issues anyway.

No. 2474249

>>2473660
This is gonna be controversial on here but one of the biggest reasons I respect TiFs more than TiMs is because most TiFs (and I don't mean pronoun snowflakes) would rather be ugly moids than women. Most moids troons would rather be an ugly man than an ugly woman hence why nose jobs, acne treatment, lip fillers, breast implants (despite getting boobs on HRT) are supposed to be "therapeutic" for them when in reality they're just getting off on it. I rarely see tifs demands jaw fillers, hunter eye surgeries, bicep implants, etc

No. 2474253

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>>2474055
This is going to sound tinfoily, but for someone like that, I would him ask him genuine sounding questions that sound vague and oblivious, with no hint of sarcasm or hatred, for example
>“If you were a woman, with the same body and all, who particularly would you beat? Could you beat them if you had the body of a woman?”
>“Arent women less stronger than men though? Because they have different body mass?”
Its going to sound like im stroking their ego, but when he realizes he cant answer those questions, it makes him question himself. The best time to nip troonism in the butt is when they are first starting out, since they aren’t fully ingrained in the troonism cult and cant repeat their loophole excuses so easily. You have to make them feel like they arent accepted. Because they truly arent. Or maybe less of a hassle is suddenly giving him weird looks like you’re uncomfortable and avoiding him a few days after he comes out to you about his troonism and never letting him know why when he asks. Makes them feel like bigfoot lmao. Im a veteran at this, psychological welfare with these freaks.

No. 2474262

>>2474249
This. Men are less entitled than women, and TIMS are also uglier and they know that. To be honest, most TIFs actually do pass, Because natural estrogen has less dramatic effect on the body that natural testosterone does. But NEVER in my life have i seen a TIM that i could even mistake for being a woman walking down the street if I was half blind.

No. 2474267

>>2474262
Some TiMs can pass, hell for the longest time we even had theories here at lolcow about how Nikki tutorials wasn't actually trans and it was a publicity stunt. The issue is that in order for this to happen they need very long term HRT, expensive expensive surgeries, etc. a lot of moid trannies can actually pass more IMO if they took the L and just embraced the ugly/dorky/mid woman look but no they ~have~ to have those sausage lip fillers and that kim k bbl and those bolt ons, etc

No. 2474271

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ew, wtf

No. 2474274

>>2474271
the amount of trannies who think hormones will change their bone structure is kinda disturbing

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>>2474267
Sure very few can look like women, they skinwalk thats the entire point but if he has a penis hes a man. Just a man who “looks” like a woman. Literally that simple. Also I looked this guy up and look at the height difference KEKKK. I wonder how he looks like under that full face of makeup.

No. 2474278

>>2474253
Quentin Tarantino looking jaw.

No. 2474279

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>>2474276
Samefag, reminder of this image.

No. 2474287

>>2474276
He's also gotten insanely expensive plastic surgery and comestic procedures

No. 2474289

>>2474249
Okay, but why do TIFs want to be ugly so bad? Why are they obsessed with "dad bod" (aka just obese and hairy) moids? At least go for the sexy anime twinks you watch or something? Do they think they need to fully accept "all" maleness (i.e. the ugliness) to be male? It just shows how painfully female/female socialised they are, to consider everything unlike moids who just want a retarded stereotype and it's honestly very sad.

No. 2474298

>>2474262
Something important to remember is that trannies can pass a lot easier in pictures, and even on video, than in real life. TIFs do generally pull it off better than TIMs though.

No. 2474301

>>2474289
because they dont want to be sexualized.
Most TIFs troon out because they are traumatized from being seen as sexual objects as opposed to as human beings.
It's basically pickmeism in a different form (if I look male/ugly men will take me seriously)

No. 2474304

>>2474301
Yeah. Still depressing

No. 2474328

>>2474274
they really do think their hips are getting wider and they're getting a feminine fat distribution kek

No. 2474329

>>2474328
Tbf what does estrogen even do to moids, I still don't get it. I've researched it in the past and just never remembered because it's so negligible kek. It doesn't pitch up their voices or make them grow boobs out of nowhere. It doesn't make them lose their Chewbacca hair. All it does is increase chances of breast cancer or something right

No. 2474360

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>>2474267
>>2474276
>>2474287
i used to watch his videos a lot and when it came out he was trans i was surprised and confused. but that's likely because i didn't see any videos of him in the real world, he always just had his face/shoulders on camera and i thought he was a fat/wide woman with a lot of fillers (also i wasn't as good at clocking troons back when i watched his videos). after seeing pictures of him on eurovision and next to other people i was like "oh, yeah i definitely see it." not to mention how giant his head is. that man skull is huge. he does seem slightly annoyed every time he brings up the trans thing on his videos (i assume PR forces him to constantly bring it up now that he's out and i tinfoil that he thinks he's better than other trannies and would have preferred to keep it a secret). but it's funny watching videos of him doing makeup on real women and he'll constantly say shit to them like "omg you're my twin!" to almost every single girl he does makeup for. like… cope fag, you look nothing like them at all. i do think he's good at makeup but he's an annoying fag and i kek looking back when he said that his husband didn't know he was trans when they met. dude's huge as fuck there's no way he didn't know, his husband seems like a total fag too

No. 2474361

>>2474329
From what I can tell it just clears up their acne a bit and gives them weird fat distribution

No. 2474372

>>2474329
They do grow breast tissue. I had an ex who trooned out and then detransitioned and he confessed to/showed me afterwards that he still had the boobs (sad little tubular things). he was a skinny guy so it definitely wasn't fat storage. that + his voice never went back to how it was pre-hormones, also apparently newfound problems w/ erectile dysfunction (idk how much of that was the drugs though because apparently he was also pretty badly sexually abused by other troons during that phase).

No. 2474381

>>2474372
It makes sense when you say it out loud, but it's genuinely disturbing to hear they sexually abuse each other. I guess I thought they'd have more respect for each other since they're all men. Grim and terrible.

No. 2474408

>>2474381
Nta but it's hard to determine what they end up considering "sexual abuse" since they often act out sexual assault scenarios (or make them up) involving the women they're skin walking. Usually the only person they accuse of abuse is the woman they were dating or married to who tries to leave or doesn't go along with it enough

No. 2474411

>>2474360
>i tinfoil that he thinks he's better than other trannies
Don't they all think that? Kek

No. 2474417

>>2474372
kek get fucked

No. 2474433

>>2472705
>terfs can never see a future without misogyny in it
hmm that's a point more or less unique to blackpillers i think, but honestly it's not even wrong. there is no, and there hasn't really been, a culture based around matriarchy in all of human history. there's nowhere in the world that hasn't at one point posited women as (somehow) lesser and encoded that into its law systems/religion.

i do think if men didn't have physical strength over women + women weren't often shackled by spawn there could be a future where misogyny didn't exist (therefore it isn't really "inherent" to men, it's just male biology) but yeah, so long as this dynamic remains where the average male could concuss the average woman with a hard enough punch to the head we're always going to have sexism. that's just human nature to shit on the weak or perceived weak

No. 2474455

>>2474276
Anon hate trannies all you want, let's be real now if this wasn't mentioned to you everyone would've continuing assuming Nikki was a tall fat chick

No. 2474462

>>2474411
kek yeah, absolutely. but i meant it in the blaire white sense and/or the ones who transitioned really young before trans was a trend and don't like newer tranny bs

No. 2474468

>>2474455
Which leads us to pro tranny tip: if people perceive you as a plastic surgery and fashion victim first, they might get too confused and afraid of being rude to question you.

No. 2474478

>>2472705
>gender essentialism
True and real, if you think it isn't you're delusional
>terfs hate being women
Not true at all lol
>Cis men are pretending to be women to go in our bathrooms
True, some of them are, if you don't believe this is true you're delusional
>>2474433
About what you said, kind of a controversial opinion but i'm not a blackpill tard and don't mix with them and i do believe in bioessentialism when it has to do with sex, men are inherently stronger than us and TEND to naturally be more violent, i don't think we will ever have a future free from misogyny or the patriarchy due to our biology, it doesn't have to do only with socialization.

No. 2474507

>>2473892
It's cowardly and socially necessary. I don't have any ill will towards women who don't stand up but my god will I worship any woman who calls a spade a spade. That gym owner has some rock hard ovaries.

No. 2474635

>>2474478
>terfs hate being women
This is a frustratingly common misconception among TRAs. I like being female, and I like the female aspects of my body. What I don't like is the seemingly endless ways society has been engineered to make women miserable, either by moids or by women who throw other women under the bus in an effort to please moids.

And in any case, even if someone "hates" being a woman, that doesn't make the male. It just means that they're struggling with self-acceptance in a culture that treats them like shit for what they innately are.

No. 2474639

>>2474468
This. Guess it's easier the be a plastic surgery addict if you threaten to kill yourself to your insurance company if they don't pay for your Pamela Anderson tits kek. Imagine if women just demanded companies to pay for our cosmetic procedures "or else we'll kill ourselves"

No. 2474641

>>2474478
>>2474635
>terfs hate being women
They say this because they think/pretend to think that "being a woman" means doing all the shit trannies do in an attempt at being women. They're not actually talking about being female.

No. 2474645

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>>2473892
Seconding the anons who said both. I'm crypto, and I acknowledge that by engaging in preference falsification, I'm perpetuating the problem of women being afraid to push back on gender ideology. I do it because I love my job, which happens to be in one of the wokest possible sectors (charitable organization), and that's fundamentally a selfish (albeit justifiable) motivation. I'm certain being openly GC would harm my relationship with my brother who I'm close to, and one of my close childhood friends who recently TiF'd out. For me, the cost-benefit analysis just works out in favor of crypto.

No. 2474653

>>2474237
There are some U.S. states (California, Colorado) where you can absolutely be fired for misgendering troons, because they include gender identity in their list of legally protected groups.



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